serato.com

don't see the sx listed here

Thanks for the link,
I understand the SX isn't capable of DVS on its own.
But what I'm asking is to use the AMX along with the SX.
That is, use the sound card inputs of AMX connected to my 1200's,
but have the output of SDJ go out of my DDJ-SX line faders as per normal.

I suppose this could be a solution for you:

- 1200's to AMX inputs
- AMX output to DDJ-SX input
- DDJ-SX output to sound system

There is only one output on the AMX.

I don't see a way to incorporate the AMX while also utilizing the DDJ-SX's platters, faders, and other functions. The SX becomes essentially a standalone mixer.

Hope that helps!

Only one native SDJ controller is allowed at any given time. The AFX is an accessory so you can have that in addition but as far as the DDJ-SX & the AMX it is either or.

UNLESS you plan on having only one plugged in via USB in which case things get confusing and I don't see how this would be logical.

Think of the AMX as a micro Rane 62 (minus some of the perks). It's a mixer / dvs solution with it's own sound card that activates SDJ. This will be Serato's cheapest DVS solution ever at only $250.00.

If they could only combine the AFX and the AMX into a single full-fledged mixer that would be an epic event.

Agreed. Another big difference is no actual line inputs. The inputs are strictly for Time code it seems.

It would be interesting to know if this AMX could be used as a standalone usb soundcard...if yes, this would be the best dj solution so far, a real fucking swiss knife:
- Portability !
- Akai quality !
- DVS ready... but have to pay 99$ more for SDJ :(
- Ready for production softwares as a soundcard ??
- Innofader !
- MIDI controls !
- Excellent price !

What else ????

it is great, but I see it too small, akai could point to something like the z2, I would have already pre-ordered. But with the opening of the dvs by Serato believe that many manufacturers provide native mixer for Serato. for example Vestax numark reeloop.

only issue I see with the AMX is that the height wont match the turntables if you are running DVS, so you really need something underneath it to bring it up to the same level.

I've sure they will bring out a stand for it as I'm think NI did this for their x1 controllers.

the AFX looks more interesting to me as I've already for a Rane 62 and mapping the SDJ FX to the mic controls of the mixer. So this would allow easier use of the software effects without splashing out on the pioneer SP1 which is a bit over kill if you have a 62.

Oh yeah! That would be very cool if Akai were to make the AFX into a full fledged mixer with 8 pads on each side. Maybe a 10" or 12" width and much better ins/outs. Balanced main and booth outputs and lots of room around the x-fader for scratching. I'd probably pay about $500-$600 for that.

Check out the thread I started that speculates on what the other manufacturers could do. serato.com

Are the dimensions of the AMX listed anywhere? I can't seem to find it.

Couldn't find it myself. The ONLY way I was able to come up with a guestimate was by the side by side of the sl-1200 (which we all know the dimensions) to the AMX. I would like to see it for myself though. Surprising it wasn't on Akai's website.



IMO we may see many AMX style mixers. But without actual inputs I have no use for it as a primary mixer. This is software ONLY with inputs for TimeCode ONLY so an outside source is not possible. As far as other mixers the DVS pack doesn't affect all that much in that they any company could have released a mixer for SDJ prior to this and obviously it owuld have been DVS compatible. It's not like the DVS pack brought on a new innovation or anything. Actually if you bought this AMX WITHOUT the DVS pack it seems the ONLY thing you would be able to control is a supported CDJ with HID I guess.

Hi deejdave,

The inputs on the AMX are Line and Phono, so you can plug other things and run audio "THRU" the inputs and use the eq and filter.

You can still use Serato DJ without the DVS expansion, but you won't have access to the platters, so using Sync and the hardware to adjust pitch/tempo is the way you would DJ with it.
I use a platter less setup from time to time and find it super fun and easy. especially good for small spaces or in transit to make a quick mix or prep.

Hope that helps

Matt P

acemc

1) Will I able to use the AMX with my DDJ-SX for DVS?

you'll only be able to plug the output of the AMX into the DDJ-SX for DVS control. The DDJ-SX is just not capable of DVS, due to wiring/construction.

2) If above is possible, will I be able to remap the AMS the way I would prefer?

Its possible at some point, but will be pre mapped initially and locked in.

We'll try and make you the happiest customer yet :)

Matt P

That certainly does help. I was looking for that info in the wrong places LOL. I went straight to Akai where I found this

-Provides extensive hands-on mixing, transport, and Serato NoiseMap capbility for Serato DJ
-Plug and play with Serato DJ (included) - no upgrade purchase required
-Expands control options to nearly any DJ setup
-2 line faders with gain controls and tri-color LED metering
-2 Phono/Line Inputs for Serato DJ Control Signal
-Pro-grade, adjustable mini innoFADER™ crossfader with reverse switch
-2 sets of line/phono inputs for Serato DJ NoiseMap (timecode) signals*
-RCA audio outputs for sending your mix to speakers or amplifier systems
-9 touch-activated knobs for groundbreaking EQ kills and Filter sweeps
-3-band EQ per channel with dedicated filter knob
-Dedicated cue mix and cue gain knobs for custom headphone mixes via the 1/8-inch (3.5mm) headphone outpu
-Rotary-push knob for seamless library navigation and track search
-Load, search, transport, cue and sync buttons for each deck
-USB-powered for simple setup and use
-Low-profile, portable design


You will notice it DOES NOT anywhere say it allows line level but yet mentions Serato time code two separate times. Yet your page says it clearly.

www.akaipro.com

-2 line faders with gain controls and tri-color LED metering

-2 Phono/Line Inputs for Serato DJ Control Signal

-Pro-grade, adjustable mini innoFADER™ crossfader with reverse switch

-2 sets of line/phono inputs for Serato DJ NoiseMap (timecode) signals*

I'm not going crazy am I here?

Ok...I've been messing with some of the ipad DJ apps and Djay doesn't have a dedicated external mixer mode. The developer suggested that as a workaround all you have to do is keep one deck selected as cue and the other as master (using a multichannel interface or "dj cable'), leave the crossfader closed on the cue deck and then connect the cue and master to separate mixer channels. I tried it. It works.

I just realized you could probably do the same thing with the Akai AMX just using a 1/8 to RCA cord.

That means the AMX can also function with an external mixer as a regular Serato interface like a Rane SL!!!!

So, you now have a Serato DJ DVS interface that also has dedicated knobs for filter, browse/loading, sync, etc. that can also be used as portable mixer all for half the price of the cheapest Rane SL.

Of course you have make sure the crossfader stays put (gaff tape) and there's no telling how durable that little headphone socket is, but at that price you could buy two.

I have an Traktor Audio 6 sitting here collecting dust and I've been holding on to this old SL1 tightly. I know it's a business expense but I've not been looking forward to spending $500-800 on a new Serato box. Hell...I still have some old Torq (RIP) interfaces that still work well. Man I'm glad I waited.

Ok, let me explain what I'm trying to accomplish (2 things here)
1) use cdj 2000's with SDJ ->> AT THE CLUB!! <<- Most Important / Priority.
2) use ddj-sx (control decks 3&4) & use AMX (control decks 1&2) with SL1200's ->> AT HOME.

So how about using the AMX with 2 CDJ2000's?
Normally I just use usb sticks & cdj's at the club, I would much rather use SDJ with the cdj's.
Will the AMX enable me to use cdj's in HID with SDJ or would I have better response using cdj's with timecode?



This ^^^^^ is something that needs to sorted out.
The software is unlocked by the usb device id, so let us create an aggregate device & use both audio devices!! Why not just give us the ability to select our output routing?
I would be able to do this with any other software, why limit us with SDJ???

Yeah thats how you can use it man! either HID or Control tone should work. Just need that dvs expansion pack for the control tone.

With the AMX you won't need the DDJ-SX, The output and mixing etc is handled by the AMX, so the DDJ-SX would only be used if you need to do a changeover or something.

Matt P

So if I Get an AMX I don't really need my SL3 as AMX "opens" SDJ? And then can be used for really small gigs etc. hmmm

So I guess this also means bye bye to my beloved DN-HC-4500, as AMX will navigate library, load, play, etc.

Hi all, just to be clear

at this stage you can always only use one primary hardware at a time That is. one hardware that takes you from the offline player to the full view.
You can add any accessory to that, but you can not use two primary hardwares at once with a single laptop

So:

DDJ SX + Akai AMX - won't work, they are both primary hardware
DDJ SX + Akai AFX - will work. the AFX is an accessory
DDJ SX + 2 CDJ 2000's in HID mode - will work, the CDJ's are accessories
Akai AMX + CDJ 2000's in HID mode -will work, the CDJ's are accessories

Please check this hardware overview. anything under "accessories" can be combined with other gear. (and doesn't unlock the software on its own)

serato.com


Cheers
Karl

That's what I thought at first sight, but AMX is more likely a SL2, it misses a 3rd channel for the sampler. ... :(

But hell yeah, no longer really need any SL boxes !!!

Hope the master output level will be not be as low as for the vci 300 for example...

They just look cheap though, guess we'll all have to wait and see how well they stand the test of time.......

AMX is cool in all but, Serato just opened up pandora box w DVS compatible mixers.
Hard to not envision other makers creating cost-friendly serato compatable mixers as I type.

IMO the AMX real selling point is it's a great back up unit and small gig device at a great price point. This is a wait and see situation.

Absolutely. Which was awesome timing as you finally got your answer on the 4500 as well. The AMX/AFX combo looks to be amazing. Combined with the player of your choice it can be as powerful as some of the larger more expensive solutions.

You said it perfectly. Many people were asking if this will prompt other manufacturers to make mixers? That wasn't the answer as anyone could have teamed up with Serato to come up with a mixer and it would have been DVS compatible. What this WOULD prompt are more budget minded controller style mixers as you suggest.


Again I can't see them putting a $99 feed on top of a mixer that cost any more than $800 so I wouldn't see this affecting the development of "Pro style" mixers. Not trying to be cocky or "elite" or anything we just know there is a difference.

Quick clarification -

If I have an AMX and 2 CDJ-2000's connected via HID mode, do I need the DVS expansion?

deejdave, would be cool if they combined the AMX/AFX into a 4 space 19" rack mount, 1 unit,
what you think ????

Nope. The HID players are exactly that HID and NOT DVS. NO TIME code is needed with HID.

LOL I mean the layout would have to change drastically but again they want to market this as much as possible and doing the 19" thing may scare people away as they are certainly going for the something NEW effect here.

I'd be curious to how you would want the layout though any sketches or photoshop ideas?

@ Matt P this is DIRECTLY FROM Akai

What can the RCA inputs on the back of the Akai AMX be used for?

The Akai AMX is a fully intergrated DVS system. You can plug in your phono turntables, or line level CD players to send Serato DJ time code. The DVS plugin can be purchased separately from Serato.

It is important to note that these inputs can not be used to send audio thru the Akai AMX as Serato does not currently support passing external audio through the software.

www.akaipro.com

Looks like you owe me an apology. NAILED IT!!!! LOL

deejdave, looks like the 'THRU' mode will be enabled with 1.7

serato.com

so technically, akai is correct, but the new version of the software, when released will enable this.

But this will be released at the time of SDJ 1.7 as far as I know.

Plus

Update to Serato DJ Thru mode logic for Rane devices. Hardware Thru mode and software Thru mode are now kept in sync, removing any drop in audio when switching

Was the ONLY thing I found on Thru mode and it has NOTHING to do with anything but Rane devices. Can you point me to what you are speaking of in the 1.7 release notes?

Yeah I can't find ANYTHING that even hits at what you are saying.

In the bug fixes, there is a mention of "THRU for controllers" so it looks like or implies that THRU for controllers will be a feature in a later release (it currently is not a feature as far as I know)

IN USE state on DVS mixers causes deck to be stuck in THRU for controllers after hotplugging

LOL that is nothing even remotely like ADDING thru mode to Serato DJ Software. That has to do with a bug when selecting "In Use" the Thru mode would stick after changing value. That was a bug..................................... what you are speaking of is a feature. They are not implying ANYTHING there.

So anyways like I said the AMX will not be supporting line level inputs.

By the way you know we have full use of Serato DJ 1.7 already and I have been using it since. I would have known if this was added. I already knew it wasn't but I was just curious as to where you were getting confused. Anyways pretty simple here goes folks......................


From Akai themselves

"It is important to note that these inputs can not be used to send audio thru the Akai AMX as Serato does not currently support passing external audio through the software."


and this WILL NOT be fixed by SDJ 1.7 which is already available.

Reminds me of the Behringer CMD Series Modular DJ Controllers
Watchwww.youtube.com

That statement is worded incorrectly and makes it confusing.
The AMX does support line level inputs as the cdj outputs are "line level"
The AMX doesn't support audio "through-put" of any kind (line / phono) currently due to limitations of Serato software.
The fact that mic & aux inputs are now being routed to the software for recording is a clear indication that "thru mode" can't be too far off or too difficult to implement in controllers that have the capability to support it.
But..... right now on 1.7 beta - Definitely not.

I would agree with that. I think I even DID word it differently to start but alas I have had to word and reword so many times as it seems Serato is not even aware that this is a fact.

"Inputs can also be used to route external audio sources into Serato DJ." is on Serato's AMX announcement page and



is from Matt P from Serato. BOTH being 100% erroneous is all I am trying to say LOL.


I would assume they could do this soon but ya never know. Think of all the wonderful things that will come from routing the audio through the software. They just brought line in recording and microphone recording for some of the devices. This could potentially be one of the best things to happen to the software I was just getting confuse as to how some people are thinking 1.7 brought it on and such. No worries.

Hi deejdave,

Let me check for sure before I owe you that apology.

I'm more than happy to give one out, but not a second one to make up for the first. Ya feel me? ;)

Matt P

Is the AMX compatible with Serato Scratch Live?

I much prefer SSL over SDJ as SSL supports my DN-HC4500

Wanting a small setup with AMX for smaller gigs and continue to use 1 software for both setups...
Unless of course Serato maps 4500 for SDJ.

:-) Thx

as the pioneer 900 mixer Rane and 64 str also AMX is only compatible with SDJ. It makes no sense that it is compatible with SSL. all will have to go sooner or later to SDJ

You know Serato finally gave you your answer.

Nope. It's an SDJ device only. Anything being made for Serato software currently will only be made for Serato DJ and/or Serato Intro.

Well the sx 2 comes with pioneer maps for TP2

Deejdave

I like to keep hoping. :-)

Good news is Serato/Rane "may" look into Rane MP-25/SDJ

Hey Deejdave and acemc,

The thru option is available only with the dvs expansion pack, with the AMX.

This means you can route audio from the inputs thru the AMX via Serato.

I've had a go myself today at DJ expo as we have them all set up here.

Questions?

Matt P

Matt P,
so it is not possible for it to be a standalone mixer?
if I just wanted to use it to mix real vinyl records, I would need to have a laptop plugged in with the DVS expansion enabled?

Matt P,

Thanks for this info. I've got a few more questions about the AMX:

- Is Serato DJ 1.7 able to record this thru signal?
- What's the output level (dB)? As a former owner of a Twitch and knowing the AMX is also usb powered, I'm a bit worried about the signal being to weak for a live situation.

Thanks

Hi Guys
Your input please would the AFX be a better unit that the DDJ-SP1? I got the SP1 but wanted to know about AFX?
Thx You

A VERY interesting take on this to say the least. The thing that most likely prevented the AMX from supporting THRU natively is the one thing that MUST be purchased in order to use it.................


Still a cool device IMO & STILL on my want list.

@deejdave,

$249 before tax. Even with the DVS expansion pack makes this the cheapest DVS system available by a long shot.



dibb
@
I'll have to get some more solid answers for you on this. I don't have them handy at the moment, but will give it some testing and get back

Matty

I saw a photo on Facebook profile akai professional, it really does seem too small, maybe it will be a monster in performance, but size matters. I was focused on this amx to switch to Serato dj dvs, but I am waiting for some type mixer z2, though now with the midi panel in Serato DJ would take a beautiful card sl2 / 3. but I want to delete a bit 'of wiring.
Qui la foto del djexpo: m.facebook.com

Thanks for the info Matt.
That's really good news.
Would we will be able to apply serato fx to the thru-put signal too?

I would be very surprised if this were possible. Then again apparently Akai still has no idea (or at leas does not feel the need to let others know) that Serato DJ will offer Thru-support at time of launch. www.akaipro.com

I would think that this is exactly as it sounds Thru as in THROUGH as in goes right through the software without change as in no FX, waveforms, etc.

You probably right, it would be pretty sweet though.
Let's not give up hope just yet.

Hey as I said with how sketchy all the info is from this gear you never know. You may be releasing things too fast when neither the hardware developer or software developer have the full scoop at any given time LOL.

Hi deejdave,

I understand this isn't very clear right now, to be honest, the thru fx thing is possible, just its on me because i've been away on business at the DJ Expo, i talked to Akai about it, so you'll see the communication firming up soon. Hold tight.

The thru signal only being able with the DVS expansion pack is the only way to route audio. and that is where the Thru FX becomes possible. I'm not sure if this is available now, but i'll test as soon as I'm back and let you know.


Matt P

I'm sure it can be done. Try playing a record in thur mode and turn the echo on........ You should hear the track echo......

It's all good I'm just teasing anyways ;)

That's pretty cool about the Thru FX. Will this bring Thru FX to all the other supported devices?

what might restrain from buying this product and the fact that it is totally dependent on the software. let's say that it locks Serato, we could solve the AMX selecting as an output on mac and start a song from iTunes, but if your mac should have a problem during the evening, there would be the possibility to have at the moment an external source connected This is not because the AMX controller with an additional power supply, so you should connect the AMX to an analog mixer to remedy the problem I described above. so aside from the convenience for the size, do not see it in those events where no one can afford to make mistakes, maybe at home or at some private party among friends.

Hey Guys,

Yep Thru FX works with the AMX and the DVS Expansion pack. I made a little video to show you - Watchwww.youtube.com



Yeah i can't see why not. its been talked about for ages.

Matt P

Thats freakin awesome. You didn't have to do that and you did anyway. THANKS for that Matt. Just out of curiosity. is there any chance of the THRU FX working on devices without DVS like the DDJ-SX or is this a DVS exclusive?

deejdave,

I think the DDJ-SX doesn't route thru the software, which is the main reason it can't be upgraded to use the DVS expansion and the biggest reason they introduced the DDJ-SX2

Matt P

I know it doesn't in the sense of no DVS supported etc. (Trust me I know) I was curious being SDJ 1.7 brought in Mic & Aux Recording for the DDJ-SX so I was curious if that was enough for the FX. I mean it is what it is. I still have my SZ (which should do this no problem I am assuming) and I still love the SX but I'll take whatever I can get lol.

BTW

1.) anything fun & new from the DJ Expo

and more importantly

2.) What was your favorite part. I've never gone to the DJ expo and I am thinking of going to that and/or mobile beat.

For a first timer to go to ANY DJ trade show/expo what would you suggest or is this the only expo you have ever gone to?

Yeah, lots of cool stuff, the pioneer booth was exciting to see the new devices there, although they weren't all completely 100% functional, Akai's new stuff of course was a highlight for me, non partner related stuff was the Serato control vinyl collectors group, and Next Audio Labs, which is a third party software which translates the metadata of all DJ software platforms and allows you to swap the information around. nextaudiolabs.com

of Course lots of discussion about FLIP too, the AFX makes this much easier than the "|" key
shortcut (staying on topic)



Yeah, its a good show, Pretty intense, my first time too. Maybe Namm would be better?

Matt P

Good point. Namm seems to be the big one. I am head over heels with the fact of your positive feedback on Next audio labs. I have been a long time supporter of Damien and his efforts.

Speaking of third party software I am surprised the guy/s of keyfinder software were not in attendance. I remember hearing some activity regarding them during the Q&A (DJCity) session.

Serato, Iztope, Next Audio, Keyfinder & all the video partners........................ things are panning out pretty nicely on the software side of Serato. Paired up with the legendary hardware partnerships/selections that are already available/will be available.................. THE DJ WORLD IS SMILING upon you guys.

LMAO I even saw the sourpuss post recently and even that took a turn for the better.


A-N-Y-W-A-Y-S Back on topic Thanks for the Video. To keep this on topic I do have just a few more questions. I'm not lazy I just couldn't find this info ANYWHERE.

1.) Can you comment on the weight? (in grams or oz's would be awesome but similar to will work)

2.) Actual size in Inches (or cm's if that is your thing LOL) Height is important here too!

3.) The feel of the buttons/knobs. Closest to will work (eg close to the NS7II etc.)

4.) The sound quality

You've already gone above & beyond so no rush but any help would be appreciated as always. As I said I am already sold but my second love is planning. I LOVE planning!! LOL

Matt P - You are the man!!
Thanks for the video and answering all our questions.
If I don't get the SX2 I will definitely be getting this.
Thanks again.
You rock dude!

Yeh I was already sold on the AMX but that video example takes it over the top. Thanx MP.

Matt P. I do not know, I see him as much use from home or small gigs, but the fact that it has its own power limits it, you really have a problem during a concert and have no alternative.

The price this is gonna sell for, should ensure that you have some sort of back-up.
Actually if you're playing at a paid gig, you should have some sort of backup no matter what you are using.

The price-point for me is not one of the actual performance level solution anyways. I mean if that is the plan for you more power to you and I wish you well but I don't see this hopping in front of my Rane 64 or 900SRT in the rotation. I will most likely use it over my controllers (SX,SZ & NS7II) for at least a while if not longer.


Been thinking and I think I will be doing AMX/AFX as well as DDJ-SX2 with the Numark NV getting the axe. The only thing is I may be doing something I don't usually do which is SELL my older original SX. I almost NEVER sell gear but I can't justify having both. My SX is in near mint condition with 1 1/2 yrs left on the warranty from GC. Hoping to get around $750 as the majority sell for $650 - $700. We shall see.


All I do know for sure is I am super excited for this AMX thing!!! I dont think I will be getting the DVS package though as I have no intention of using it as a main rig but definitely more of a portable solution.

Price is important with regards to the features the unit has.
Not having a real mixer & own power supply or any sort of back-up is directly related to price.
This is a full-on midi controller with a 4-in, 2-out sound card. It gives the ability to use club's cdj's with Serato without having to take our controllers to the clubs. Plus I can route normal cd's through Serato & add effects if I want to. At home, I can use my 1200's with Serato.
The only reason I still have Traktor on my mac is coz I bought a friends Audio10 for cheap.
I can finally say goodbye to Traktor completely with this.
Even if it's not a real mixer........It's a winner!!

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acemc agree that we must always have a set up a replacement, I know that the chances of a block can be remote today, but that means bringing 2 mac and two consoles, and not everyone has this opportunity, I also have my z2 that E use with SSL SL1, my option would be to take a sl3 ein afx and continue to use the z2, take amx and afx, or wait for a mixer style z2 by producers who work with Serato. you in my place what would you do?

Matt,

Really appreciate all your feedback and your vid, thanks!

Can you say anything about the output volume (maybe compared to a CDJ)?

Also curious about the overall build quality / feel of the unit, but from what I've seen thus far, it's a good package for it's price anyway..

from the video posted by Matt P is the master at the most, so I can not assume a high level of output. moreover, you can not expect more from a powered usb controller with output rca

Hi Guys am very interested in the AMX but slightly confused,

as it states on the FAQ regarding the inputs; "It is important to note that these inputs can not be used to send audio thru the Akai AMX as Serato does not currently support passing external audio through the software"

does this mean that it could be enabled with a serato update in the future?

It seems like a missed opportunity for people with vinyl decks looking for a decent replacement mixer and also a way to start using serato, but without having to keep another mixer when I want to play my old vinyl.

thanks for any help!

The Akai site is incorrect. Did you see the above video posted by Matt P? He posted a video using the AMX to play real vinyl and use the effects as well.

brilliant thanks so much!

Yeah this is a serious woops. To me this seems like a big WHOOOOOPSS! but I guess the guys over at Akai see differently. LOL. I guess it will be our secret. Only the guys on this thread will know SHHHHHH!

I think akai is not the only novelty, surely many manufacturers will work with Serato to bring the dvs on their products, you just have to be patient. At this point I also hope for a Vestax mixer battle with dvs

Hey guys!

Excited about this release, I just have one question though: Will there be an official Akai AMX/AFX stand that can be purchased as an extra? It would be nice to have the AMX sitting at the same level as CDJ's when running DVS or HID mode, for example.

Similar to the Traktor X1/Z1 stand...

Any clarification on this would be appreciated! Keep up the great work Serato!

They already have and already are. If you read the DVS expansion release notes you will see some:


Akai AMX
Pioneer DDJ-SX2
Numark N4
Denon MC6000mkII

and I am sure there will be plenty of existing as well as future products.

I don't know if what you said was just a general "HEY I dont think everyone will be going out of business this year so we can expect to see future products as always" or if it was a response to anything said prior. As a matter of fact I am not sure what that was in response to or regarding at all.

The fact remains that Akai has not updated their site.



I would think this would be a question for Akai as Serato does not have anything to do with hardware accessories for other manufacturers. They probably have a little more influence or impact on said decisions but I would think that is as far as that goes. I certainly hope they do but if not being a carpenter by day will come in handy. I was hoping for dimensions from MatT P for this exact reason.

deejdave, you've read what are the products that support the expansion pack dvs, mine was a guess on Vestax, I would buy a sl3 also used, here in Italy can also be found at 450 €, and continue to use it as z2 mixer having the possibility of having a second software spare in case of problems. or wait for the release of some new dvs Serato mixer type the z2 which combine a afx. last alternative traktor scratch to see if it will evolve with version 3

Ahh so basically just making a prediction for a future product?

As far as Traktor as I have said before I can't imagine them making any announcements even close to the magnitude that were made here recently. Could be wrong though. NOT that Traktor is that bad to begin with. It is a solid application.

Check this vid at 7min .. It's shows them on a stand to make them higher.. I guess they will be selling them.
youtu.be

That's right it was a prediction for the future, I can tell you that I use both software and services as we are almost at par, of course Serato DJ 1.7 was a major step forward, both in relation to SSL in traktor, my choice had fallen on z2 for good price, and I must say that I am not at all disappointed, but now after years of sl1 dvs and with the announcement of the expansion, I would like to upgrade my old sound card. at first I was already thinking about amx and afx, but the fact that it is simply a controller perplexes me, and in my previous posts I also explained why. at this point is only the desire to wait and not jump on the first product that comes out. I want to buy a 62, but too expensive for me, I still do gigs but not so many that they can amortize excessive spending, 61 price is not right for what it provides for the use of Serato (cue points, loops, ETC) . see you later akai who will bring out something interesting.

Matt, I wrote to you in youtube, I noticed that you are the master at the most, can you explain why the volume of output and satisfactory? the headphone volume and high enough to mix in the evenings where the music volume is very high? these are imported much info that you have to have before buying a product. Since you have the option to have it, only you can take away all these doubts. Matt what kind of evening you would use this product.

+1 Let's get some affordable battle mixers from Vestax, Akai, A&H, Denon, Numak, Gemini, Reloop, ADJ, Rane or Pioneer... Sh*t, I don't care if it's made by LG just give it MIDI and we'll pay the extra $100 to make it work with SDJ!!!

Kinda looks like a display stand though. Looks like a wood block painted black or dark brown but hey, that might be all you need anyway.

The master out was going in to a channel on my DDJ-SX and i was controlling the output from there, hence the reason it was rather low in volume. In retrospect i should have turned it up louder, but haven't made a lot of youtube vids before.
This may change :)

The output has been very satisfactory for me. Considering it is only RCA output you will likely need a secondary mixer to plug in to if you plan on doing larger scale events. This will be a great companion to have in case of turning up to a gig with a less than comfortable mixer, but not really a replacement for a Sixty-Two or 900nexus/SRT.

One application I'm thrilled about, is using on a plane or train, in transport. Since its fully contained its a great tool that opens up the possibility of making mixes and previewing whole sets before gigs etc.

Hope that answers your q's

Matt P

Oh yeah, you'll need a stand for sure. its a little low. I think Akai will have a stand/case that will help with the slim build. I don't have dimension on hand, but will provide them when I have time at home.

Matt P

Thanks Matt, look forward to a performance of the product on the website Serato. Now I ask you, I advice you to buy this, or update my sl1 with the sl3 to use with my z2, because now serato dj, has the midi panel.

I think the Z2 is a really cool mixer, with the SL3 its pretty powerful and will allow you to be more versatile and mobile.
The AMX is standalone, so might make a better solo unit, but doesn't have as many output options as the Z2. Definitely more lightweight though

Its a tough decision.

Matt P

I have no hurry at the moment calmly decide what will be the best choice. Matt wanted to ask sometimes I use only one turntable, but I noticed that the track without the turntable has no fluctuations, and this is normal, but when I go to make the mix loses the joke very easily compared to when I use both turntables. I never understood why, it is well known that if I have the pitch to 1.5 when I make the duplication of the track on the desk 2 this does not give me the same value that I have on the desk 1, but sometimes below or above and this means that mixing in a tent next phase shifting very quickly, at least that is not the correct pitch using the keyboard to the desk 2

Ditch the Z2 and grab a SL3 with a Pioneer DJM T1 and call it good....... Waaaay more controls then the Z2.

Matt P, any chance of re-uping of the video showing Thru FX in action with analogue regular vinyl on the AMX?

Thanks.

Hi DJZobe

I just tried several combinations to verify this.

Rane Sixties Series Mixers: Yes, you can achieve software FX on analogue sources by using the USB Insert button and the Flex FX assigns.

Rane SL boxes: No, THRU is a pure hardware THRU now. Serato DJ keeps itself in Sync with the hardware THRU state
Software THRU was implemented in an earlier build because hardware THRU wasn't visible to Serato DJ, and because it had some nice advantages like software FX for analogue sources.
But unfortunately it led to inconsistencies with hardware THRU and hot plugging (also audio dropping out when you plugged the USB in while analogue source playing).
Rane has since updated the driver so we can now keep in sync with the units hardware THRU state. We believe avoinding audio drops or even unwanted THRU disabling upon hot plugging is more important than software FX on analogue sources.

AKAI AMX: Yes, you can apply the software FX to analogue sources.
The AMX is not a standalone mixer, all sources are mixed in software, even external inputs. The hotplugging issue wouldn't be relevant there because the unit is bus powered only anyway, and doesn't have hardware THRU.
So pulling the USB will cut the audio either way.

Cheers

So use with SL boxes get the shaft again........ How much are y'all gonna charge me for this now??

I know this works becasue i can apply effects from my sz to turntables with the sz. i was shocked it worked but it does.

I tried to check out the video of the external sources being passed thru with the fx and the video isnt on youtube. its legit though?(: The only downfall would be having to have my laptop too but that isn't too big of an issue with me. Pretty stoked cant wait for the release!

Hey Guys,

I had to take the vid down. Sorry, but it indeed does work and is legit as Karl mentioned above.

I can make another post release perhaps.

Regards

Matt P

That's exciting to hear! Now I'm even more so looking forward to the release. There isn't a set date yet is there? Octobers coming up! In a video a heard the guy say beginning of October? That'd be a question for Akai though huh?

Apparently October 16th...
www.pssl.com

Thanks Karl Y for the info.

Got the AMX/AFX today................... ehhh

Hey Karl,

You guys should consider bring software THRU for SL boxes back as a separate feature. Purchase new isotope FX would be more tempting if I could also use them on my external gear. Choosing between software and hardware based THRU could easily be a preference toggle.

Dave where did you purchase it from?

deejaydave, are you disappointed? Is it smaller than you expected?

Nat smaller................. actually the builds are decent. The AMX has a nice weight to it but the AFX is uber light. Not the feeling I have with my Kontrol X1 or F1 nor the SP1. I didn't get the Neon in yet sp no comparison to the weight of that one yet. I have been messing with the AMX mostly as I want to see how feasible it is to use it by itself.
Believe it or now Guitar Center. My shop for some reason or another still does NOT have them even listed. I am debating on whether it is worth it or not to pursue the DVS expansion. I mean I probably will out of boredom but I am definitely in no rush.

I actually went for new speakers & moving heads last night and ended up with these babies.

How is the AMX? Do you like? Hows the crossfadder? The sound quality?
Can it be used by itself running serato dj and just your laptop?

Believe it or now Guitar Center. My shop for some reason or another still does NOT have them even listed.

Which guitar center if u don't mind and also do they have more in stock

Yeah, the GC up here doesnt have them yet and still doesnt know for sure when they will. Same With SweetWater. SW Told me their date got pushed to Nov.=\ Dont know for sure if ill invest in one. About to sell my NS6, maybe use that money for one. hm. I guess well see.

Not a problem. Commack NY and YES they have more. They also have the Numark NV which I must say seems/feels like junk and solidifies my decision to go with the Kontrol S8 over it.

Decent
As known the crossfader is an Innofader Mini and it feels awesome. It has reverse control as well as contour adjustment. NICE cut. NICE feel!!

Not bad although I have to further test this.
Yes. Not very convenient as you will be touching the laptop often. If you add the AFX problem solved but for a SUPER compact SDJ device it is pretty sick!!

Remember I do NOT have a single consumer level device to test this device against. All I have is the SZ, SX, 900SRT, Rane 64 & SL4 so obviously it comes in under these. I am SURE it kicks the crap out of most consumer level controllers in terms of quality & function.

Kool looking for something small and compact to carry to work...touching the laptop wont be a problem. ..thanks man

This probably just sounds like a sales pitch, but nonetheless,
the AMX really shines with that DVS expansion pack IMO.

I use it all the time at home. Its so incredibly convenient.

I went to my local dealer on Wednesday to order an AMX, so they called up Akai Canada... who apparently has no idea that the AMX even exists.

Any news on when this will be available in Canada?

WOW!!! LOL
I would say yeah until I got my very own set where I can 100% see where you are coming from. I want to test the THRU capabilities ASAP.

Thanks for all the input Dave & Matt.
This just helps solidify my decision to get the AMX.
Sadly for me, it won't be before december though. It seems so far away!!!

Since i just read this page and can not be arsed to google my self LOL Do they make a stand so these units are same hight as cdjs mixers ext???

LJ_WOOLSEY,

I dont have any solid info on this either. i'm sure they will, but currently my AMX is propped by a Rode NT1 case :)

Akai did have some nice custom stands at DJ Expo in NJ, so they definitely understand the need for them.

Matt P

I currently run 2 1200s an sl3 box and a rane ttm56 mixer.Will getting the AMX be close to the same setup? I only plug my 1200s into the sl3 I don't use a 3rd input

No not even remotely close. The 56 mixer needs the SL box to open the software. The AMX does not need the SL3 at all.

I understand that what I am asking is if I get an AMX and get rid of the 56 and the sl3 box can I get the same functionality as before and performance

Hi CaseJones,

I think its a little different, The 56 is a standalone mixer and the AMX is not. The AMX is bus powered only.

You'll want to consider this as the AMX may be limited in comparison to the TTM56 and SL3. However it is a very compact and useful counterpart to your existing set up.

Hope that helps.

Matt P

Thanks for the help.I like the idea of just taking my 1200s to a gig and an AMX instead of the sl3 and the 56.From the YouTube videos I watched I thought it may suit my needs

Me, if I get the AMX, it would be paired with an SP1, HC1000, or a well mapped F1 (or a pair X1s mk1). Backpack set up, I should say.

I have all the above excluding the HC1000S. I also have the AFX and the Reloop Neon is on the way. This far I am still in favor of the SP1 above all else but I have high hopes for the Neon.

I used to have the 1000 but After getting the X1 I stopped using the 1000 and I have no idea where it is anymore.

The 1000 is in need of an update. It was a great sub controller when it came out but the newer features in Serato DJ and Scratch Live make it less useful than it used to be. I have one and hardly use now.

We all know a updated sp1 is coming with colored pads and controls for flip. we all know it :)

I like the idea of my turntables at the center of the equation, with 2 Akai AFX units on either side to control 3rd and 4th decks.

Yeah its a very simple setup and just that would be enough to rock it. The built in filters are a go to effect, so once your use them with a little Echo out (in 1.7.2) or Combo fade echo, you are pretty straight for 90% of gigs :)
Just make sure there is an RCA input available as thats the only output on the AMX

Matt

And you need to buy the DVS ADD ON.

Hey Blackie Lox ,

I found this, Toronto, Montreal and online too.

www.moogaudio.com

Question Matt............ Any reason why the loop roll options with the filter/loop (touch sensative) comboonly include the four options 1/16-1/2? Any chance of getting a wider range?

Thanks, I actually came across the same link and sent them an e-mail this morning to see if/where they have it in stock (I'm in Toronto).

The AFX is a layered controller device. You only need one to control 4 decks.

Hi guys,

Think I'm going to pick up an AMX today but i've a quick question. Can it be used as a soundcard in other software such as audacity or ableton? Be great if i could ditch my other soundcard and use it for sampling from vinyl so i have one set up for djing and production.

Thanks for your help

muzka

I don't like the idea of having to switch the thing to control a different deck. I just want full control of a deck via buttons / touchstrip.

Yeah man, it works in Ableton :)

Is it possible to run 2 AFX units, one per deck?

Yes

So I called Moog Audio (Toronto) and they told me that the AMX is coming in December :(

Blackie Lox,

Just in time for Xmas madness ...

Moog are good though, the price is the same as the States :)

Best

Matt P

Gotcha. That's do-able if you don't mind spending the extra $250.

I hooked up my AMX and I can't figure out how to reassign midi buttons and knobs. The midi button is not lit. Am I missing something?

longshot,

The AMX is midi locked in Serato DJ (like all mixers and controllers)
You can attach a secondary midi device to map other functions if you wish to use the AMX with another device.

Matt P

*Native being key here. The secondary midi device Matt speaks of must be a generic (non SDJ native) controller or accessory. Even the accessories that are supported by Serato can not be customized in terms of mapping. There are however some devices that have alternate layers that can be mapped although I don't have much experience with them personally.

Feel free to add your +1's to the current feature requests asking for customizable mappings as this is one of the more requested features here at the forums.

well put

I think this is the thread to put your +1's : serato.com

Then
+555555555.5 x 2

Is the mini innofader in the AMX magnetic?

innofader.com

thanks.

Just taken delivery of my AMX and loving it so far... Using it at work during my lunch hour :-)

One quick question, as it doesn't have pitch sliders, I've taken to using the keyboard shortcuts. Is there a way to enable a visual pitch slider on the interface? I've seen reference to it in the manual but it gives me the impression this is for Vinyl or CDJs only?

FatalFunk, how is the sound quality?

You can set pitch with Shift+GAIN, you can scrub with Search+Browse. This thing does everything! Lol

seems like most places have afx but not amx yet?????

The pitch fader isn't visible with out being in INT mode with the DVS expansion pack.

But you can still see the bpm value change as your adjust the pitch when not using the DVS expansion pack

Hope that helps

Matt p

You can set pitch with Shift+GAIN, you can scrub with Search+Browse. This thing does everything! Lol

Longhsot? where did you get yours?

TBH I'm only using headphones but it sounds pretty good.

Thx for the heads up... Missed that!

Fatal funk where did you get yours?

Got it from Westend DJ.

So they hit europe first like pioneer controllers always seem to hit there first. got it.

Got mine at Guitar Center in Paramus, NJ. There were 3 more on the shelf next to 3 AFX's.

Sweet. im on it. i called my gc pro and he has one for me. thanks guys.

I got mine almost two weeks ago from Guitar Center. Went back a second time a week later and they were still there. Pretty much walk into Guitar Center and purchase one.

Just wondering how you guys are liking your AMX, how is the sound quality (headphones and main output)? How does the crossfader feel/cut compared to the rane magnetic faders? Do the gain knobs on the AMX directly control the gain knobs in the SDJ software, or are they independent?

I'm thinking about investing in this and two AFX's. I've been in the market to buy a new mixer (I'm still rocking my faithful TTM57)

i've converted back to serato after moving to traktor a number of years ago and its this mixer that influenced the decision. Great value for money and i love how simple but effective it is integrating with serato dj.

Sound quality is fine though only tested on bedroom speakers and not a club PA

crossfader is nice, only been using it for few days and still getting used to it but seems sharp and clean

i think the gains control software gain


all in all lovely bit of kit and worth every penny for the mixer and dvs upgrade

The "gain knob" works like a "pre fader" gain

As far as I can tell (and Im not that familiar with Serato DJ as Im new to this digi world), the AMX gain know does NOT affect the "Track Gain Adjust"

I've had "issues" with the sound quality of the unit when played over the Bose L1 in mono (at a gig).
HOWEVER - I have not been able to replicate the "effect".
I fully suspect that it was a lesser quality rip and the mono mix down made the "artifacts" more apparent.
The quality was not terrible, none of the guests at the event noticed anything; I just felt that the track lost a smudge of "expansive-ness".

Headphone levels to date have been more than sufficient. But I have not yet played the unit in a banging club environment. All that being said - I think it will be fine.

I don't use a cross fader so I can't comment.

I do appreciate that I can turn the cross fader OFF in Serato - thanks!

Thanks @Fatal Funk

I didn't see the SHIFT button.
Now I know that I can use the AMX to switch into THRU mode!
(SHIFT and Search/DVS - it recalls the LAST mode set for the deck)

Thanks for the input guys, I just picked one up last night and have been toying with it. Im gonna tinker with it for the next couple weeks to see if it is something I can use as my main mixer for SDJ.

I'm really liking the smoothness and cut-in on this innofader. It seems like it is a little sharper than my ttm57 CF.

What is the meaning of "scrub" here? Cant get it from the context, sorry :D

Scrubbing is when you fast forward through a song without actually listening to the song as you move through it. A very helpful tool to skip through those boring bits in songs!

www.dailymotion.com

Move through the track as if you are using platters. It a very fine resolution though...

Im not sure what they meant it to mean

But since I have an AMX with DVS unlocked, I'll tell you what it does.

Imagine a Record on the turn table.
The record player is "on" (in that you can hear what is on the needle)
It does not matter if the platter is spinning or not

The knob spin simulates a record "spin" by hand forward or backwards through the track.

Its pretty fine grained.

Its not what I would use if I were trying to "skip" forward to the "break" in the track.
Its really useful if you are setting cue points on tracks while sitting on an airplane...

You don't have to use gaff tape on the cross fader

You can turn the cross fader OFF in Serato DJ (v1.7.1)

Ah i see, thank you all :)

DIMENSIONS

Apparently they are now posted on the Akai website
www.akaipro.com

Dimensions: 1.7 inches tall (42mm), 10.7 long (271mm), 5.3 wide (134mm)

Note that the height is about 28mm tall NOT counting the knobs (if you are planning to make a riser block or a "bridge")

Note that the length is about 253mm long if you are counting the "body" only (not counting the stick out of the RCA in back or the XFade curve knob in front)

This amx is a beast for the size and price. The sound quality is sommuch more punchier and crisp compared to my ttm57.

The only problem im having is the usb indicator light is coming on all the time.

What OS are you guys running SDJ and the AMX on?

how do you switch from main crate, to subcrate, expand crates, collapse crates, goto song list/browser, etc on AMX ? i see just a load, and rotary knob

anyone?

Really ??? I'm strongly surprised, because the AMX is USB powered only, so it should be really low compared to the TTM 57sl

press down on the browse knob

i'm running yosemite, so that might be the issue. what OS are you running?

so press down goes from crate to subcrate
then press again goes to song list area?
then press again and goes back to subcrate and collapses it?
press again goes to main crate?

just trying to see how that "press" let's you navigate down your recordcase, open close, go back,

Pressing down on the Browse Knob toggles between the LEFT screen (where the crates and sub crates are) and the RIGHT where the songs are

If a crate has sub crates that are "not exposed" as a sub crate, there is a small arrow to the left of the crate
When the crate is hi lighted, pressing SHFT and the Browse Knob will toggle the sub crates as visible or not

What ever is visible (sub or not) is scrolled on the LEFT; it will not "auto expose" the sub crates as you scroll past the crates (if the sub crates are not exposed)

thanks Ed for taking the time to explain

so it seems we can totally navigate the recordcase/crates/songs without ever touching laptop

all you guys paid $249 for AMX?

i'm looking for a discount :-)

i know it's a great price for what it is, but i always look to save

ok, so quick question ((I think I know the answer) I have an SL1 with djm-850 I was looking at sl2/3 boxes but wanted to know If I could use this to "unlock" SDJ then simply use my djm-850 for mixing output so on/so forth and basically have this in the case like an sl box. I have the sl1 box (got super cheap) and havent used serato since my ns7 (itch) years ago so I was wondering if anything changed as this looks like an option vs sl2/3

I think I read somewhere that someone was going to try to use the AMX as a pseudo SL1 box for SDJ. I think he said he was going to use the main output as channel 1 and the headphone out (with RCA adapter) as channel 2. I think I know what he is talking about, but haven't tried it myself. Good luck!

oh wow, never thought of using it that way...question is degradation of sound quality....but was just pricing everything and can get a used sl2/3 box for close to the mixer (with dvs upgrade) so I'm just gonna do that...maybe I'll install it inside my 850 get me a poor mans SRT...lol

Look at you go!!! LOL serato.com

I feel like a proud parent. Just teasing BTW. :)



Correction WE can as an owner of the AMX!! LOL. Just teasing again!! :)



Just do your homework. NEVER pay full retail price. Even GC's generic 15% off coupons etc. will get you a better deal obviously. As you said $250 is dirt cheap anyways though.
I don't know how comfortable I would be with the headphone/Master out combo either. Also just as a side note I would go for the real deal with the SRT if possible. The amount of features gained are STAGGERING. The Quantized beat FX (via info sent from software to mixer through USB) alone were reason enough for me to buy one. The SRT still to this day remains my favorite SDJ device and I have a LOT.................................. just some food for thought. Always found it pretty amazing when people "hack" or come up with solutions on their own but I more or less had an interest in the DJM/SL combos prior to the SRT. NOTHING compares to the real deal IMO.

yeah if you have the cash lol...AMX/AFX offers alot...for 1/4 the price

Cash is king in all areas of life!! The AMX offers a decent amount for 1/8 the price not 1/4 unless you go with DVS in which case it is 1/6 the price LOL. I love my AMX and as I said it HAS earned its place as my permanent bedside mixer. I don;t think I would personally use it to perform though. Also not to take anything away from the AMX but when stacked up against my 900SRT or Rane 64 it is lacking in a STAGGERING amount of ways. That's all. Again in it's own right and measured up on its own the AMX is quite impressive though.

I was referring to the 850/SL Box hack or using the AMX the way it was mentioned above is all. Not trying to attack a mixer I personally have & appreciate LOL.

I still don't understand what someone was trying to do with the AMX "hack" vis a vis the AMX headphone output as channel 2 ????

I mean - get the DVS option and its an SL2 (as far as I can tell)

Separate channels on the house mixer?

Oh

Thats an awful lot of trouble to go through to simulate an SL2.
I can possibly fathom what someone wants on the house mixer that is on the "channel" strip that they want access to...

Im used to old skool broadcast radio where we were often using several sub mixers to do things as there were not enough channels on the main board....(especially with call in shows and analog reel to reel tape delay)

Not even close. The SL2 has separate outputs in which you can hook them up to an external mixer. The AMX only has one output thus can NOT be used simply as the sound card.

100% agreed. So much that can go wrong and seemingly way too much tweaking. Also I have not compared the quality by using the headphones out to the mixer but I would not be surprised if there was a difference.

Thanks - I think I understand now.

You're probably right, only reason I mentioned this, was that Akiem presented this option with the 57 back then, when wanting/needed to use the house mixer instead of the 57, and not having an SL box.

Honestly though, if sound quality from the headphone output were up to par,
(I dont own the AMX) I don't really see "all those things that could wrong and all the tweaking"?

I mean:
- hook up tables to amx, connect main amx output to channel 1 on house mixer.
- lower AMX right line/x-fader set left.
- connect headphone AMX output to house mixer channel 2
- adjust output levels & headphone levels on AMX to not clip...
- make sure MAX faders stays in place ;)

Sure, its a "ghetto rig", but unfortnuatly I've seen far worse in some bars...

aint THAT the truth....

True dat!! Seen some mixers you gotta use your keys with as whats left of the posts are below the surface of the mixer. Rane Cue point buttons missing all the time. Four mixers all lined up and connected to each other and it takes you 20 mins to figure out how to get sound out of any of them!!! LMAO

Quote:
Sure, its a "ghetto rig", but unfortnuatly I've seen far worse in some bars...

True dat!! Seen some mixers you gotta use your keys with as whats left of the posts are below the surface of the mixer. Rane Cue point buttons missing all the time. Four mixers all lined up and connected to each other and it takes you 20 mins to figure out how to get sound out of any of them!!! LMAO


^^^^^this right here was one of the main reasons I just decided to do the sl box...less headache, less to go wrong less for some drunk chick to hit (sorry wasn't being sexist) and for my play style the SRT was just way to much money (1000 bucks more than I paid) for maybe 1 additional feature ( I would use). you can get the reloop neon for 150 bucks and call it a day. So for me I've decided i'll put the SL2 box in my 850 to clean it up and pick up a midi controller and its a wrap.

By SRT I presume you are referring to the Pioneer DJM-900SRT mixer
By 850 I presume you are referring to the Pioneer DJM-850 mixer

That is correct

A favourable review by Dj Tech Tools - www.djtechtools.com

Just curious, whats the going rate for favorable reviews ?

ha! I really don't know. its not coming from NZ though ;)

To be honest i thought it was really non biased and he pointed out something that i have created a bug report for (the .3 bpm adjustment thing)
So cheers, for being objective Mojaxx

and i agree :)

It's not a hard and fast rule, but generally the price of a favourable review is:

$Makeagoodproduct

As I think the review makes pretty clear, there were some small disappointments for me with both the AMX, and AFX, but overall they offer excellent value; especially the AMX.

Thats a fair deal if you ask me :)



As is that. Fortunately some of those disappointments can be fixed in updates too.

Cheers Phatbob!

Regards

Matt P

Really appreaciate this Phatbob/Mojaxx!
I was dead set on getting these asap, will probably stay on the fence
a little longer untill those missing parts are sorted out.

(fine pitch bpm on the amx & scrub/pitch functions on the afx strip)

Does the AMX comes with the time coded cd's and records?

The AMX does not come with Time Code CDs nor does it come with DVS Vinyl.
In fact, it does not even come with DVS.
Heck, it doesn't even come with a Serato DJ install disk!

First, you have to download and load Serato DJ.
To turn on DVS, you have to purchase a license for it via the links inside Serato DJ.
As far as I can tell, the DVS license is tied to ONE computer, even thou the AMX will act as a "dongle" and unlock Serato DJ on any computer.

The DVS CDs can be downloaded readily enough
And the time code records are readily available

Once you purchase the DVS expansion pack for $99US you can authorize 2 computers, as with all Serato licenses.
You can also deactivate and activate the licenses from your computer through the MySerato/online panel to manage your authorizations.

Regards

Matt P

Hi Matt P! Awesome product review.

Hi Im very excited to have the AMX! Currently stuck in my rusty old SL1 Im actually aiming to buy a used SL2 or SL4 but this will definitely change my mind.

Just a question though, I have read through the comments and all i saw was the sound quality is "Good" "punchier". i want to know if the sound quality is up to par with the SL2 to SL4 line up?

Its a standalone unit. Its not powered so has a lower output than say a DJM900 or a DDJ-SX as it is only USB powered.

Its a great unit, but you'll need to plug it into a mixer of some sort to get a nice high output gain. If you were to plug the AMX directly to a PA/Soundsystem, you'll notice its a bit quiet.

Depends on how you use it though. I have mine set up mainly for home, recording, practice. I take my SL2 to gigs and just plug into their mixer (if not a supported mixer).

I do take the AMX on longer journeys though, as its very good to have on the plane or train etc. Can get a mix started on the way to a gig :)

Does anyone know if you can record using serato with the amx?

Yes you can.

Just turn the master volume un SDJ up to about 75% and it will give you a lot more volume.

Just did a gig last night with the AMX+AFX. No issues! Except for a personal one, forgetting to check which player the AFX was set to. :( Had 2 Hot Cue mishaps mishaps that luckily no one seemed to notice,

Maybe a 3rd Hot Cue mode to have top row the first 4 of player 1 and bottom row first 4 of player 2. :)

Or, maybe just make a blank pad that we can program to our liking?

I would def use it!

I meant a blank layer of 8 pads that we can midi program to our liking.

Isn't that what a ReLoop Neon is?

Negative. Reloop (just like ALL native SDJ devices) is not customizable mapping-wise.

AMX: 24-bit, 96kHz audio output.

SL1: 16-bit / 44.1 kHz sample rate

SL2 : 44.1 or 48 kHz, 24-bit

SL3: 48kHz 24-bit audio processing

SL4: 24-bit / 48 kHz or 96 kHz sample rate switchable

thanks for the specs @DJ Remix Dtetroit

That list is impressive (and that tech prices have dropped so much that was was once unfathomable is now pro-sumer grade)

yeah, Akai made a smart move on the AMX/AFX... and i have no doubts that it can be a great unit/s to use instead of the more expensive pioneer/rane units.... the only thing holding it back from its full potential is SDJ. Once Serato gets their act together and starts programming SDJ to SSL standards, then I'm sure the AMX/AFX combo will be one of the hottest units out there.

I haven't heard of many people having issues with the AMX. I can't duplicate any crashes with the AMX. It also runs smooth as butter on all my machines. The DVS is working great on the two machines I have the expansions activated on. I am also curious in what you are missing from SSL? Remember SDJ is NOT SSL and never will be. Furthermore there would not have been much point in changing the name IF they wanted it to be a clone. Aside from the stability (which as we can see from our unique experiences differ so much) which is clearly an individual basis what is missing?


Also specifically regarding the AMX how is SDJ holding it back?

Ditto!

stability

Not having to alter my files to gain stability.

The same thing happened when itch came out... i bought v7's and used the same exact library without changing a thing, but for some reason, tracks that sounded great in SSL with no issues at all on my ttm57, would trigger the limiter in itch like crazy... making the tracks sound like shit.

Awesome LMAO



Even better!!!!


So I will take it you've got nothing................

Just keep in mind not everyone is having issues with SDJ is the moral of the story here. As you should be able to tell by the AMX threads most are loving just about everything with the AMX/AFX combo. Hoping for more from the AFX does not warrant being labeled a failure BTW. In terms of the AMX (which is the topic in this thread) I am very happy.

how is that nothing? you had to completely alter your video files, because your first go was unsuccessful. You had to risk the integrity of your videos by re-encoding them, you think that is reasonable?

Im loving the AMX also.... just not SDJ so much....lol

I could see your point if I was the only one one squawking about SDJ, but there are a lot of veterans who know Serato software like the back of their hand who agree SDJ lacks the stability Serato has been know for.

Wait who had to do WHAT with Videos? I have NEVER done such a thing.
BTW I am NOT saying stability is nothing. I AM saying however that SDJ IS VERY stable for many so it can't be a general SDJ is not stable thing. I am also saying that OTHER THAN stability hence the

Hope that is sinking in.


The word veteran is a shaky term at best these days. A veteran in this example defines a DJ who has been using Serato for a while. This IN NO WAY implies they know what they are doing or that they know ANYTHING about software or Pro Audio for that matter. Not for nothing but it does note even necessarily mean they know how to DJ.

For the record there are people on BOTH sides of the fence. I have recognized this fact and I am hoping you would to. I have been using Serato for almost a decade. I am hoping I would be considered a Veteran. I USED to have issues with Serato but to be honest this was with SSL. I rectified EACH and EVERY issue I had by switching to Mac though. Not trying to create the Mac/PC debate but AM stating a fact for me.

I will also remind that there are a GREAT deal of current SSL user that to his day would not agree on SSL's stability. serato.com[]=f&fu=&fa=3

Not saying SSL is unstable though. Just keeping things in check and all avenues open as they should be.

However with ALLLL this said I do hope you find what you are looking for in SDJ as SSL's support has a two month expiration on it. IF you find SSL still works best for you though by all means use it. SSL will work today AND tomorrow as it did yesterday.

yeah, i missed the first part, sorry...lol

SDJ is clearly usable, and i don't have any real big issues beside having the same stability with the same exact library as SSL without having to alter anything.



ok, my bad,i apologize, i may have gotten you mixed up with another person in another thread who said they were having problems and had to run their videos, from a latin pool, through handbrake to re-encode them to play nice with SDJ.

It's all good. I'm not trying to be a dick and I apologize if this ever comes across this way. I am quick to defend Serato though as they have been great to me personally I will say once more though
I truly mean that. I would love nothing more than to be welcomed to a day at the forums seeing rainbows & butterflies LMAO. I know this is not reasonable but I do hope it all works out for you.


P.S> Thanks for keeping it civil. Yet AGAIN proving to mature individuals can disagree to the ends of the earth on something YET be courteous and respectful towards eachother........

haha... it's all good. i never got the impression of hostility from you at all.

i agree Serato has been a great company and has built its rep off of stability. Ive been using SSL since 2006 and overtime I've plugged in my SL1 and ttm57 in, i have not had any major issues that prevented me from gigging.

I, like other users am just curious as to what the hell went wrong in writing the new code for SDJ that took away that rock solid stability Serato has been known for for all these years.

I guess it's a big issue for me as well because i went through the same B.S. when itch came out. Itch had a shitload of problems that Serato knew about, but still proeeded to release it anyway.

It just seems like Serato is on the same bandwagon as these other companies who are just releasing shit to grab peoples money and allowing the public to be their guinea pigs, without giving them any compensation for their time and effort.

Some would argue that they are honored to be a part of such. I can vouch for the fact that being part of said beta's was the DIRECT reason I had my issue's fixed so fast. The more recent of the two links I provided in the other thread was fixed in something like TWO WEEKS!! SOME would say this is absolutely compensation. Then again some would say that is not a reward it is a right. I guess it all comes down to the person. I have ALWAYS been proactive. I also stick to my words and will flat out say it is NO coincidence that I have no stability issues. Quite the opposite. I saw to it to make this a fact by being at the frontlines of the betas, being active in these very forums as well as just trying to have an overall awareness in regards to software & hardware.
I would have to 100% agree with you there. I NEVER liked Itch and it would crash spontaneously on me without leading to any hint of a cause.

Just gonna quickly (very quickly) chime in on the debate about stability.

I see and hear about this often as you could imagine. I also see that people are resistant to change. I myself have been too at times. However, Its only fear of the unknown that motivates this.
The reality is that there is always has been and always will be issues with all software.
All we can do is try and identify, remedy and prevent them as best we can at Serato.
Thats why we do extensive public betas, and run a forum like this to identify them as fast as we can.
So, DJ Remix Detroit as always, if you are having stability issues, we hope that you contact us with your problems, or if you have friends with them, that you get them to reach out.

I know when something goes wrong its frustrating, but getting upset and saying things aren't stable doesn't help. We need the info to fix the problems and make Serato DJ better for everyone. If you ever have problems, or continue to have problems give us a holler. We want to help.

Over and out :)

Matt P

Matt P,

I'm far from upset and i'm sorry if I gave you that impression, it's more like disappointment. Like I said before, if I (and many others) can use DVS with an SL1, SL2, SL3, SL4, ttm57, and 62.... with absolutely no issues for hours, on a high spec'd MBP in SSL..... Close SSL and open up SDJ, with the same exact library, and get nothing but USB dropouts as soon as DVS is activated.... there is obviously a problem.

All we want to know is why this is. It's obviously got something to do with SDJ and not the hardware.

and why are you not implementing the same Rock Solid protocol that is in SSL into SDJ? It's a simple question that should render a simple answer.

They have added almost everything from ssl and i use all there products and as most on here and have seen or no. even sticker sync for use vinyl heads and have listened to us about what we want over and over. not to many company's left who do that and are here everyday to respond. i do 100's of shows a year and minor stuff here and there ill take any day of the week.,

(dunno I I should start another thread for this Q)

@DJ Remix Detroit

What is a "USB Dropout"?

I think you (or someone else) was referring to a USB light going off or something - what did you mean by that?

(I have an older MacBook Pro - but upgraded SSD drive and maxed RAM)

For the record - the only issues I've encountered with the AMX / Serato DJ were when I had Serato relegated to the background, and either sleeping the Mac, and or other apps open / closing / crashing as I use my Mac at home as a surfing computer (stuff I do NOT do at a gig). Stuff that I don't blame Serato DJ for glitching on.

A reboot of the Serato App fixed any issues.

DJ Remix Detroit



Simple answer... We are.

Sorry you are disappointed, i can see from your other posts this is an ongoing issue for you. Please don't take away the focus of this thread for your disappointments. Feel free to reach out to us directly with your concerns. That email is support@serato.com :)

Matt P

serato.com

He got everything working smoothly now.

apparently not, if i can use SSL with no hiccups whatsoever on the same OS, same MBP, and can't do the same with SDJ being the only variable.

Does it mater that the last five people who responded here (other than you including mee & Matt) can? When making statements like I am NOT the only


I feel it is only fair to recognize that currently looking to your left and your right there are indeed individuals who are getting along just fine with SDJ.

I am glad to see that you yourself got everything working as they should TODAY. serato.com

it does matter, but what also matters is that others also are saying and experiencing the same things i am... so again I'm not the only one, and there are other long time SSL users who had the same expectations of SSL going into SDJ and were thoroughly disappointed as well: serato.com

but its the same song and dance with Serato, because this is the same stuff they pulled with itch.

but when you have Serato staff claiming they are using the same stability protocol as SSL,.... when clearly you can see using the same exact library, hardware, computer, and OS between the two, that SDJ produces a shit load of bugs..... then it's apparent they are not.

and then you have folks like Matt P who feel the need to chime in to talk about the 'fear of the unknown' as being the issue... you can't help but wonder if Serato thinks their veteran DJ's are as stupid as these young kids trying to be the next Deadmaus.

but as far as the AMX/AFX go, I am extremely happy with Akai and it seems like they were on point with these products being portable and well made for the Vinyl DJ. i think i am certain I'm gonna enjoy these more than the 62, especially when it comes to punching cue points on Akai pads.

left and right seem to be ok.... but when i look in front and behind i see: serato.com

lmao

Hey Matt P,

feel like giving another one of those 'fear of the unknown' speeches again? lol

The whole point of this thread is that people should not be using new versions of software and expect results in a performance situation.

As mentioned direct from THAT thread.
I think you are using this "stability protocol" a LITTLE incorrectly LOL. I am sure they did not vote on any sort of protocol and the winner was F-That!! You may also want to consider the fact that you are using this in past tense and they are more than likely using this in terms of the present and future.

Regarding these "veteran DJ's" you speak of. The definition of a vetern dj is by no means someone that agrees with DJ Remix Detroit nor is it someone who thinks SDJ sucks. A veteran is defined by an individual who has been doing something for quite some time period. THIS is by You are speaking to a veteran right now and not for nothing I would take advice from individuals who have NO issues any day over those who do................ no offense. It just seems to me one gives you a better chance of having success yourself than the other.............. obviously. I will say this one last time:

It is NO coincidence that I have had success with SDJ. I make it a point to have said success.

As far as what Matt P speaks of I myself can remember when I made the Mac switch as well as the DVS switch and 100% know what he is speaking of.


Again I am happy to see you yourself got everything working TODAY.

Mostly behind. I am assuming these are the "veteran DJ's" you speak of?
I think Nick M said it best in that thread. If you are striving to be like one of them by all means. You are sure to have MANY more threads just like these.


Keep dwelling on the negative though..................

I am beginning to think the definition of a veteran DJ to you is one who has issues.

BTW you do understand those threads are like bug zappers right? Unfortunately the end product is not the same. Why do you even use Serato DJ? Are you a gluten? Why put yourself through the torture?

are you serious? you really are a fanboy. lol... SDJ is a resource hog, and everyone who has sense can see it.

like i said, this isn't a case of just one person having issue... there are many many many others seeing and experiencing and seeing the same thing as me. who are on higher spec MBP's that are perfectly capable of handling heavy loads.

and when you have Serato staff claiming there is no difference and denying it to save face and by giving people Deepak Chopra speeches... it's flat out retarded...

I've seen how folks from Serato interact with forum members and i don't expect any of them to keep it real when it comes to these issues. and that's why I'm not mad... it's their company, they can do whatever they want.... but myself and others still have a voice and we are going to call a spade a spade.

first off, I'm not putting myself through torture,

the AMX/AFX combo appealed to me because i would much rather have a more portable setup and also have sturdier pads from Akai, than what's available on the 62..... so i had 30 days to test the AMX which is what I'm doing... testing it to see if it works.

i bought it expecting the same rock solid performance from SDJ as i have for many years with SSL..... just plug it in and it would be working. obviously that was not the case.

i troubleshot the whole thing and the only thing left to do was try Mountain Lion... which i did this morning and I see it works.

if the troubleshooting process would have went sour with Mountain Lion, i would have simply taken the AMX back to GC, and filed a chargeback for the DVS Expansion pack and PnT with MasterCard and gotten my money back... bought my 62 and stayed with SSL.

it'd be different if i went into this without a way to get my money back....but i prepared for the worse and had my backup plan ready......

Call it what you want. I am content having no issues on any of my MacBooks. I run two of them at 1ms. I can't expect much more than that. If this makes me different and uniquie than so be it. A fanboy, a noob, an amateur.................... whatever. I'd rather be a fanboy, noob or an amateur with no issues than a veteran with nothing BUT issues.

I can't continue this. I gave quite a few hours being I was waiting for the stain on my florrs to dry but alas................ it is dry and there are far more important things for me to do. I mean in the end it's not like I'm the one having issues so I have absolutely nothing to gain here anyways. Good luck with yours and hopefully you too can one day experience an issue free Serato DJ. Just like in life it helps to start associating with those who are successful as opposed to the sour pants committee of Serato....................... just an idea.

I just saw another post of yours pop up but I am not going to read it sorry dude.

nah, i'm all good thanks.

Like I said, it would be good to keep this back on topic, feel free to reach out or start another thread for your issues man. Happy to help out.

Matt P

serato.com




straight from the horses mouth....smdh

but i know you are still gonna make the same lame excuses and bring up more irrelevant points...lol

if you say so....

Honestly rock Solid is hard to do for a whole bunch of devices on various platform settings.

SL was only compatible with a few Rane devices which means rock solid comes easier than SDJ with all these devices...it'll take time.

tthat's why i still love my 57+SL

THIS is what i am waiting for. It shows that the amx though it has a low output due to the lack of power still has the edge in terms of audio quality.

Im on "buying mode" now.

Cheers!

The AMX and AFX are officially both on my Xmas list. :)

Shouts to Mojaxx for the great review of both units.

He did a GREAT job on the review. I never had the Twitch and only have the MK1 Kontrol X1 so I had only heard of the needle search function he spoke of prior. Much better understanding now and can NOT wait for it to be implemented. I have still been using the AMX just about every night. Not a huge deal on the AFX though this could change in the near future. Doing a lot of renovation on my house so I am finding time mostly on the weekend and late night which is PERFECT for the AMX as it sits bedside. It's my ninja mixer LOL.

I'll tell you what when wrong...SSL did not have sync or isotope effect plug in...SSL is a bare bones Dj program with no real hard core bells and whistles .. so it uses less processor... pretty much a stable program right now SSL 2.5 ..this is why you can run SSL on a lower spec'd computer

itch was a test to see it they can implement sync and beat gridding and the use of controllers ...Because of the GODs of anti sync will not allow SSL to have sync

now you combine both codes of SSL and ITCH ..... bang zoom now you have high cpu usage... even though you don't use sync in sdj its still there to be activated. (as the program running behind is calcualting if and when you hit the sync button)

you can fully disable sync in setup and you will watch your cpu resource lower(usually in a lower spec'd laptop )(my 2009 mbp suffered greatly with high cpu spikes using SDJ)
you can definately see the difference in the cpu

now sdj adds features like pitch and time, slicer, all bells and whistles more resources.


folks it took a while to get SSL stable.... we all want that instant gratification and we wont get it too many variables on which equipment we use..... thats why we participate in the beta testing......

when i go out and play and use my 62 and my 850 i still use SSL cause i know it will work..

when i take my sz out i know sdj 1.6.3 works......(1.7.2 i have some glitches when a song loads and i had a few song pauses or drop outs )

For those of us that have never used SSL, SDJ is still a real winner.
I tried Traktor, Mixvibes & VDJ - None of them come close to SDJ IMHO.
I have other little gripes towards SDJ, but for me it's been reliable enough
for me to use every friday & saturday night at the club.
Im using an underspec'd 2009 macbook pro with pitch n time, flip & video always active.
My biggest issue has being a half second pause on the rare occasion.
Overall, that's really not too bad.

rae up top gets it. comparing ssl to serato dj is just not knowing what your using or how it works. do the research. you cant add tons of controllers and other devices and not have issues on so many different computers and such. not how it works at all. if ssl works and you dont need more stay with it otherwise there will be speed bumps for sure but serato listens and thats all i can ask for.

Could you guys pls stop the SSL vs. SDJ thing here? Everytime i hit this thread i have to scroll all the new posts to SEARCH for AMX relevant stuff...
There are tons of other threads where this could and should be discussed...

This latest ingoing issue has nothing to do with cpu usage.

My cpu usage has been below 25% the entire time. Along with SSL.

So that def had nothing to do with it. And besides. The problem was fixed in the latest beta release.
Serato has already stated it was an issue with mavericks and yosemite.
Which is why many people who are running sdj on mountain lion are not experiencing the dropout issue.

100% agree. Still using my SL1 sometimes, but get over the fact that SSL can't be supported anymore.

I've posted a relevant AMX related post here: serato.com

Wtf are you talking about? No one said anything about ssl not being supported anymore.

this...

This was such a good thread until it got trolled :-(((

Some more relevant feedback on the AXM:

that was the the topic of the OP right?

getsatisfaction.com

I'm looking for the cheapest of all micro DVS solutions out there.. hahaha! :)
- AMX
- iPhone 5s / iPad Air
- DJ Player for iOS
- powered /usb hub

Gabor, the dev of DJ Player might get it to work..

Cheers.

*AMX

Honestly I will take the blame on this one. I had early signs which SCREAMED to just cease all communications with him but instead I got sucked in........................

Was supposed to be a quick and easy reminder that there are indeed other people in the world but alas it was not meant to be.

My apologies gentlemen.

I would like to attempt to get this back on topic as well.

I will be attempting the AMX with a Windows PC today

Anyone using the AMX/SDJ with Windows? I haven't used Windows with ANYTHING in terms of Serato in years so I am curious if I even need a driver for the AMX

since I read the user manual earlier today looking for another tidbit....

user manual notes that WINDOWS requires the driver...

AHHH. I figured. If I am correct I think it is included with the supported version of Serato DJ though. I would've noticed straight away later when I tried hooking it up but I figured I'd ask and maybe get a head start on it. I guess the real reason I am asking is there was a card that came with the AMX that linked to software downloads (NOT the DVS pack or the free flip or FX pack that came with the AFX) regarding the AMX. I am now curious what that was. I have ALL this stuff in my basement right now and I just got another coat of poly on my floor so I am unable to find out myself for a few more hrs. LOL.


Still curious to see if anyone has tried it on Windows to see how things are going. I will have to deactivate the DVS pack on one of my MacBooks too in order to fully test it out.

I'm using my AMX on windows 7 Dave and so far so good. I haven't had any hiccups to mention yet. I haven't gotten a full session on it yet though (meaning more than an hour of continuous play).

Good....... Good....... Very good!! DVS yet?

I STILL didn't get a chance to get at it tonight. Ended up putting some time in with the S8 which I am still doing now.

Yes sorry, DVS...

Even better. Thanks as always bud.

So, you guys that bought the combo:
Do you find the 0.3% limit on the pitchtempo a problem,
or do you all use sync?

Personally I would really want a quick way to adjust pitch on the fly,
especially for non-quantized music.

Only really having quick access to pitch bend and not fine pitch
is somewhat a dealbreaker to me.

Would be great to hear your thoughts on this....

+1

I am thinking to buy on AMX but these two points are in general important for me...I wish SDJ has the option to modify the pitch range and pitchbend range...I have the VCI 380 and sometimes its to much bend....it would be also nice on the AFX that you can split the touch strip for pitchbending like on the NI Kontrol X1 Mk2...so you dont need switch while you are pitch bending

Sounded like some of these things could be done with a update and they sounded like they would so thats good news.

Yes, we should be improving that pitch range in a future update, but focus is on 1.7.2 currently. So likely the following one :)

Matt P

Thanks matt and is the pitch stuff to touch strip possible at some point?

Just want to clarify on this...
For a while, I thought I can only use P n T on one computer (my main laptop)

I might need to check all my other laptops... I might have forgotten to inactivate when I was still testing it for the first time. I honestly thought I won't be using this anymore due to encounter of several crashes when it first came out, but the 1.7. updates made me try it again and all I can say is... I'm lovin' it!

And sorry for clicking the the "post" button so quick and had a split message.

938MyDJ,

Yep, You can use it on 2 computers.

You can also manage your licenses in the Online/MySerato panel.
That is if you need to deactivate a computer. So you can authorize a different/new one.

Hit me up at support@serato.com if you need any more help with this.

Regards

Matt P

On the AFX you have a 'Pitch' touchstrip mode that is used for nudging tracks up or down. And on the AMX the 0.1 pitch adjustment change will help to do this also.


If by that you mean the ability to use the touchstrip to 'scrub' the track like you would with a platter then (yes) we are talking with Akai about how best to achieve this :)

awesome. can't wait.

Thanks Matt.


Is that a 0.3% pitch adjustment Logan? The Numark Mixtrack Edge had similar coarse pitch adjust (0.8%) upon release, but have since been fixed by Serato :)

I'm holding on to that unit for set prep now,
but probably getting the amx/afx combo once a finer ptich adjust is in place.

Thanks guys!

Not sure what percentage that equates to but it means you can pitch up/down by increments of 0.1 BPM.

Thanks Logan, I got confused about this as phatbob mentioned it was 0.3 BPM
-> youtu.be (fast forward to 04:50 in the video...)

Oh I see, yeah he's just saying it's currently at .3%. That'll change to being a lot more fine.

Kewl, looking into getting the combo.

Got my combo today.... runs fine with my 2009 mbp 10.8.5..... haven't ran it to an audio system yet just mixing with headphones on... the sound quality on the headphones is good... its a learning curve with no jogs....

You can say that again!!! Between my AMX/AFX and my S8 I have been having a hell of a time. TBH I am not certain I like either without platters. Been using the BOTH setups with TT's & CDJ's as I just feel I lose a LOT of control without platters.

ndx 500 is next on my list

Speak with Ed Wong here at the forums. He just purchased one and sent it back. I think he was happy with platters and such just wished it had cue point controls etc. In other words I think he had purchased when he was looking for more of a SUB controller. Combined with the AFX/AMX combo would make it a VERY effective unit/s though. The good news is Ed confirmed like I said the platters were spot on and THIS to me is objective A with ANY player of ANY kind....................

Obviously to make this a truly worth it the pair must be obtained.............. I think LOL.

For me, nothing beats the 12s, then cdjs come second place. That said though, there are times when these mini setups are very useful, ie travelling to a remote location by plane, prep at the office, etc.

In fact I used to run a manually mapped mpd, sl1 with a djm 600 for those occations, some years ago. Gonna see if I can dig up the akai, all stickered with labels.

@RaeDonQuan

serato.com

I wasn't a huge fan of the NDX500
But thats because I was looking to REPLACE my current DN-S-1000

a) its physically larger (but not by much)
b) the amount of extra features were not worth it (to me) compared to keeping my DN-S1000, using a DVS CD, and getting a different controller (AFX)

The MIDI mode jog wheel was pretty good. The scratch mode was a decent implementation, but both are things I rarely use in the sets I spin.

The NDX500 platters were spot on - as was the DVS
Neither of them come (IMHO) remotely close to a Technics 1200 and a real analog record.
They are nice, they are in some ways BETTER, but its different.
Bear in mind, tat I haven't used a DVS control record yet.... just got one to play with

That's all I want platter control with sdj....and the bonus for me is the CD player.... Usually bring a controller and every so often I have someone give me a CD ( really song artist that mostly have their music on a CD)...

Yes I have some sort if equipment bug.... I almost bought a NV the same time I bought the akai combo...I never leave guitar center empty handed

I use this same setup with a Vestax mixer instead of the djm 600. I've got the original MPD16 it still gets the job done.

In my case, I decided that the platter control of the DN-S1000 (I already own a pair) and burned DVS CDs was enough for my needs.

The NDX500 mapping and the DVS platter on the DN-S1000 were (to me) similar enough.
The NDX500 had the "scratch" mode - which was VERY tightly integrated with Serato.
I really really liked the scratch mode. But not so much that I would haul the NDX500 or get a second one for a matched pair

I did get a Serato Record - me thinks that will actually "feel" like a record...

time code on a tt is just like vinyl...it will never skip in relative mode.

Quick question for all you AMX/AFX owners:

on the AFX, when you hold shift, the 'ABS, REL, INT' should light up to the respective mode you are in, correct?

whenever i'm in REL mode, and i hit the SHIFT button, the 'INT' light is on... and vice versa.... when I'm in "INT" mode, the 'REL' button is illuminated.

is anyone else's fax like this? I have two, and both are doing the same thing,

Mine seems to work OK

Ya sure yer lookin at the correct deck?
(if you have Deck 1/3 selected; and press in the RIGHT side shift, the functions do NOT shift the AFX to Deck 2/4, the ABS/REL/INT still reflect Deck 1/3)

And yeah - this does make the entire "dual column" of buttons kind of silly with the shift key.

Luckily - this appears to be a software fix :)

As I understand it - you want the LEFT side shift key, when pressed, to show the ABS/REL/INT for Deck 1/3
and
you want the RIGHT side shift key, when pressed, to show the ABS/REL/INT for Deck 2/4

One suggestion for the AFX: Show the current selected beat division on the led display while touching the beat encoder. It has touch, so why not showing the information (similar to the touch encoders on the Ableton Push)

NO NO NO Totally wrong. Just stop it!!! It's an LCD not an LED!!!! LOL I'm just kidding who the F is that anal?

I LOVE this idea BTW!! It kind of makes me wish there was just ONE LCD display on the AMX as well. I mean just one display that shows value whenever the encoder is touched is POWERFUL!! BTW I love my Push as well. I learn more & more with it each day I use it.

btw I am just kidding. As far as I know it IS an LED LOL

Pretty nifty idea!

Here a quick vid i made of the problem. www.dropbox.com

Should the respective light be illuminated for the mode you are currently in?

DJ Remix Detroit - I wonder if that occurs because you have TWO AFX units
Try it with just one and see if it does that?

Mine (one unit) behaves as expected.

Recieved AMX this last week. Running serato with a 2013 MBP retina. 2.47 i7.

Ive previously had, Allen and Heath DX, Novation Twitch, Pioneer ddj sx, Pioneer ddj sz, and others.

Im having a bit of trouble now with the amx not producing sound when plugged into the left hand USB port on my MBP.

One port must be capable of less amp draw.

Besides that its a pretty good simple control setup. Ill be trying it out with a CDJ1000, and a Turntable later this week. Both as a single deck controller setup.

Im using the serato remote software with it as well. Which works well, and is very portable and convenient.

[quote[...]
Im having a bit of trouble now with the amx not producing sound when plugged into the left hand USB port on my MBP. [...]
Have you tried another computer to rule out the AMX?

CORRECTION!
Have you tried another computer to rule out the AMX?

No i tried the the other usb port. :)

Gotcha. So it's more a USB port issue on your laptop?

That's definitely incorrect. If you try it with just one of the AFXs does it still happen?

When can I get these in Australia!?

AMX and Serato remote on iPad would be a super bad ass setup with a couple of turntables and DVS.

Only gripe I have is let me change SYNC, CUE and PLAY in DVS mode to trigger 1st 3 cue points. They are important to have hardware control of under DVS.

Otherwise, basically you've got all the important hardware controls for mixing, and the iPad touch controls for FX/Slicer ... etc...

Really nice.. amazing price, this is the future. GIMME.

Store DJ has them on their site but you need to make an enquiry on when they'll have them in stock.

www.storedj.com.au

From today there are full support (and DVS) from Atomix for Akai AMX in Virtual DJ 8.
The mapping is closed with serato with some small differences.

Damn they are really steppin on toes here huh? MAKE YOUR OWN GEAR!!!! LOL just teasing .................. but for real


Is it free like with the SZ? Also do you have a link for this or are you speaking of the drop down menu when selecting controller in which case I see it is $99.

Folks, I would like to have full confirmation, with at least some little bit of detail from actual hands-on experience, that the AMX works well in combination with Serato Remote 1.2 (the latest version released this week), <and>, also, that I do <not> need to buy the DVS add-on in order to use use Serato Remote 1.2 with the AMX.

From my standpoint, as some one who suffers from chronic back problems when using a regular desk or table for long stretches of time, having the AMX and Serato Remote 1.2 for prep work would be fantastic. I would place an order the AMX in a heartbeat.

In truth, however, I wish Serato could figure out a way to add full prep work functionality to Remote without having a controller hooked to it.

These are BOTH true. I have actually extensively (well as extensive as one could with just over a day since its release LOL) used Remote 1.2 (iPad 2 I believe so trust it is not a fast iPad and still worked like a dream) with my AMX. I have done so on both my laptops WITH the DVS expansion and one without.
Couldn't agree more and have brought it up to Serato myself.



So in short YES Remote 1.2 can be used withOUT DVS and working well with SDJ 1.7.2

deejdave, thanks once again for your help on this forums.

I also have an old iPad 2 at the moment, so your report is perfect for me.

I might actually end up using this combination for gigs in which bringing the DDJ-SX could pose space problems. Cool.

i wish i did not have to buy the DVS option JUST to play my ipod, ipad through the AMX
i mean at least open up the through for audio, (not DVS) however you can make that happen Serato

Hey man cool,
i'm a Serato and MixEmergency and Traktor and Cross and VirtualDJ user not the Atomix :)

Here is a link:

www.virtualdj.com

For prices i don't know because i have a full license so it's free for me.

PS. The good news with the mapping of Atomix is that i can adjust the tempo (pitch) in very slow steps so i can't wait for this function from Serato Team.

Please Serato... make those transport and SYNC controls mappable to 3xCUE points. I guarantee a WHOLE heap of DJs that want to use these with DVS and a couple of decks are going to find the PLAY/CUE/SYNC buttons useless and 3x physical CUES way more useful. I can't wait to check one of these out in person.

This is NOT just for the AMX. This is how they are handling the THRU function with Serato controllers that utilize the software THRU going forward. Not for nothign I am not too sure how happy people who have already purchased the DVS software for this VERY reason would be to see it FREE out of the blue. Again with all the work Serato has done the expansion packs are things I am happy to pay for.
Yeah I hear ya. Wasn't really interested in prices either my self. Just curious if they were giving away for free as they are with the SZ. I'm curious if the SZ key can be used to unlock the full VDJ................. probably not LOL but I don't know much about VDJ.

This would more or less make the Serato Remote/AMX combo we are speaking of here pretty useless. Having either the transport controls OR the cue points work by using SHIFT also seems a little pointless.

For my money ultimate combo is the core mixer function, library loading and a couple of cues with physical controls (AMX). More dynamic stuff like FX, slicer, extra cues and other software features that may evolve on the iPad with serato remote. I am sure most people can get by with quick access to the first 3x cues. That leaves your serato remote available to jump to other screens.

Transport on AMX / Cue points on Remote
Transport on REmote / Cue points on AMX
Potato / Potahto

LOL. I can say I DO prefer my performance functions to be physical so maybe this would NOT be a terrible idea.

That's my thought. The bits that get the most use are best to have physical buttons. Muscle memory kicks in and you can hit them by feel. I'll never use those 6 buttons for DVS, they are in a such a prominent location on the device it just makes sense to make them CUE triggers in DVS mode and not waste them.

Kinda makes sense come to think of it.

LOL Scratch that. Makes a shit load of sense. WTF Do I need the SYNC buttons SO accessible for anyways LOL. 100% on board for me.

2 questions : i owe a sl3 +ns6 controller do i need to buy dvs serato dj when switching to akai ams ? please what about pitch n time ? does it work as well… even in thru-mode for real vinyl? how does a recording sound? rumours say >dropouts< due to the cheap interface?
is the the "surface interface" an amateur thing or do i have to build in a decent interface myself or wait 18 months til we are 48/192?

yes you have to buy the dvs for the amx...

so a $1700 rane 62 is a "cheap interface"

the 900 SRT $2200 "cheap interface"

your ns6 $699 "cheap interface"

sdj record is internal to the program not the hardware you use.. only a few sdj devices cant record internally is the numark v7 and the SL 2 box.. as the numark v7 does not have a mixer built in
and same with the SL2 box.

if your mp3's are junk low bit it will sound low bit when you record.

most of the drop outs are fixed in 1.7.2

havent bought pitch in time but i would say pitch in time will only work with sdj only..

explain build and interface

I agree,did a 5 hour gig last saturday with 1.7.2 on Yosemite and didn't have one dropout...this was with wifi on and BT turned on.Video was running too via MixEmergency

P'N'T was turned on too...it's an amazing tool by the way...it's fun going from 100bpm to 120 and still sound good :-)

I think he was calling the AMX a cheap interface.


YES you need to buy Serato DJ DVS expansion as it is a DVS ready device while most of the others mentioned by raedonquan are Serato DJ DVS enabled devices which include DVS support.


YES Pitch N Time is a separate purchase. It had its problems in the past with the software itself not specific interfaces but it has since been taken care of and is working fine even with DVS. OBVIOUSLY it would not work at ALL with real vinyl though. HOW would it? Thru is just like it sounds................. goes right THROUGH the software as in the software could not alter the sound in any way being it is thru with the exception of hardware related tweaking (EQ's , trim, etc sometimes filter, etc.).


BTW as stated record is fine as well. It records what it hears. If your files suck and/or you have droputs due to insufficient laptop etc. it will reflect in your recording.

anyone,

can the AMX, (alone) advance through your CUE points, so if i wanna CUE to the 3rd one?
or do i need the AFX?

i just want to get to my CUE points, (already own AMX)

i assume the Serato Remote is a "cheap" way to do it

No cue point selectively on the AMX ... You either use the keyboard shortcuts...

If you have an iPad the remote is worth it

so the CUE button right above the play/pause on AMX, only goes to your 1st cue point?

Nope tempary cue white flag.... In setting you can use load to first cue point

The cue button has the same behavior it would on most other controllers. images.search.yahoo.com I didn't go to far but the first 50 or so.......

And yes Serato remote would be a DIRT (had to add that LOL cheap option!!! I mean They are literally selling bags of dirt at Home depot for less than the cost of Remote Mini LOL. Just teasing musiclee you know I love ya!!


You are gonna let us now when you first use your AMX right? Any idea of when you are getting it in?

it arrived yesterday, i returned the other one to GC,
so now just have to find some time to mess with it,
hopefully i can have at least a day with it before my first gig

Bring that thing to bed tonight LOL. I'm telling you it makes a perfect bedside mixer. Most of the things I have learned from this mixer were during the wee hours using my headphones with the wife sleeping next to me LOL

So I guess you play some nice chillaxing music till she falls asleep and then crank up the volume.

I assume I'll have to rebuild my record case?
Or will it import from SSL?

It will import as is from SSL. Like you had it all along. Only thing is you will now have three more cue points to fill in, More loops. You will also have Pitch N Time, Izotope FX (Remember to claim your FREE Wolf pack FX) and other stuff...................... You're gonna love it I think.


As far as the late night listening.................. I try to keep it to myself but OFTEN I find myself rockin' the whole bed with my head banging!! LOL

"Remember to claim your FREE Wolf pack FX"

Free? How, why? Comes with AMX?

the afx comes with wolf pack

serato.com

Negative. The AFX comes with the Backpack FX pack not the Wolf pack FX pack serato.com The Wolf Pack is FREE for all SDJ users but MUST be activated as if you purchased it.


I saw you mention you were looking to get the AFX as well. IF you do make sure you get the backpack AND Serato Flip for free via an included voucher that SHOULD be included............ as it was not included in many of them as it should have been.

serato.com

You can find the info on the above link but in short you must register (or RE-Register if you already did) your AFX in order to receive as it was not being included at first.


Anyways that is as I said for the backpack FX pack


The wolf pack is free for all to activate. the FX Base pack however is included as it is the OEM FX pack for SDJ........... no activation needed.

www.akaipro.com

Where to register the AFX for the free content.

yes no output on one of the usb ports

BTW -- serato remote is working great w the mixer i dont feel theres a need for the second controller. if there was only a momentary pitch bend +\- control on the mixer or in in remote software - i would be happy w the minimal setup -- are there any workArounds for this ?

Anyone heard any news about official AMX/AFX stands yet?

As I now own the AMX
Given the choice, should I get:
Akai AFX or Reloop Neon?

I can get the AFX for $163.52
Given that they throw in the FLIP with AFX
I am really paying $134.52 for AMX

Deejdave, go ahead say it... You are toooo much!!! :-)

+1111

ye i guess the Serato Remote would be cool, but
i kinda like that push, hit, turn, of a real pad, button

hmmm..The Neon is pretty cool too, and a bit smaller, decisions decisions
i'm thinking AFX, more symmetry when side by side with AMX, free FLIP

I think you can pitch bend on the keyboard shortcuts

i believe the keyboard shortcut actually adjusts the tempo to a value -- i was looking for a brake or push command so i can adjust the phasing of the tracks once synced. similar to the plus or minus keys on traktor ... am i missing something that is obvious ?

They also throw in the other FX expansion pack remember?

oh yes, the Back Pack, worth $19,

so that brings it to $115.52 ;-)

does the AMX throw in any FX? packs?

done, just ordered me the AFX as well

it's all your fault deejdave

you think i'll forget about my DN-HC4500's soon? (yes, i have 2 of them)

No sorry.
LMAO you will LOVE the AFX. This small package has gotten more of my attention than ANY of my other gear this past month. The attention is well deserved too.

Keep your 4500's. They were/are well respected controllers and it sounds to me like they earned a place with you. Not to mention Serato may not be offering any sort of specific support but I have a feeling things will become more "open" around here leading to more flexibility and support for your 4500's.


Just remember this thread is all I ask as I am almost positive there won't even be a mention of the FX pack in he box but you ARE entitled to it.


Personally I think you did yourself a great service.

ok so to recap...there are 4 packs to claim?

Back Pack (included free with AFX)
Wolf Pack (included with SDJ)
Base Pack (existing Serato DJ effects) probably already activated/installed
FLIP (included free with AFX)

and in my case, pitch-n-time which i bought months ago...

This is what is offered.

Serato Video $149
Serato Flip $29
Serato Pitch N Time $29
Serato DVS $99
Serato DJ Expansion: $99 (Only needed for SDJ Intro Controllers)

FX Packs:
Base Pack: Included (and IS installed already)
Wolf Pack: Free (but MUST be activated/Installed)
Back Pack: $19 (Free with AFX but MUST be obtained registering activated & Installed)
Chip Pack: $19
Jet Pack: $19

WOW seeing all this written out ................... after obtaining them all I realize my SDJ was quite costly LOL.


In your case you will need to activate Pitch N Time, Wolf Pack, Flip & Back Pack.

they should advertise that you are getting $48 of FREE plug-ins with the purchase of an AMX...

can't hurt sales i'd think :-)

Short of the price tag they do state it comes with them. They haven't really used the price on any devices though for some reason. For instance the SX2 COMES with Serato Video AND FLIP. now THIS is a 180 value!!! I guess it gets muddy which may be why. Being that they change the names of what they really are all the time.


It was just DVS at first

Then DVS compatible

Then DVS enabled

Then DVS upgrade Ready.

LOL

Yeah though you would think throwing a sticker on the box at the very least with the value of what they are offering.............. I agree again!!! lol

aweeeee -- found the pitch bend keys … all is right with the world now.. ie: found what i was missing… however .. the info button in the GUI is not helpful . and does not referance the keys as i thought they would . I had to look up an overlay to find the correct info.

+GHTY

deejdave, anyone.... you getting these protective cases?

www.magma-bags.de

seems they will come out in January

Probably not TBH. Being a carpenter I tend to make my own stands/cases for the gear I use. The AMX fit perfectly on the stand I made for the X1.


Nice cases though. If they brought to the right height without having the lighter piece (which I am guessing it is) on the bottom acting as a base ................... maybe. Physically I don't know how stable that would be.


Again they are nice though. Thanks for posting them I hadn't even looked for cases for the AMX/AFX.

credit goes to Djkom who found & posted on another thread

Could someone recommend where to buy the AMX online in the US?

I checked Amazon at it says it's imported from Japan at like $410, and couldn't find it on the Guitar Center website thru a search.

Also, what's the actual street price in the US? I thought the SRP was like $250 but maybe I misunderstood this.

www.americanmusical.com

Thank you! That was quick!

check local or other gutiar centers in other states

try the gutiar center's in new york and new jersey..

and have them ship it to your local GC or to your house


the gutiar center in springfield nj has them or try totowa nj gc

Guitar Center in Springfiled, NJ has em

DEF try the guitar centers or any other place other than AMS. I have not known them to offer any kind of savings. AMS is the go to place for those looking to make payments on gear.

i SWEAR by these guys, (below)
i buy most of my gear from them
they will beat any competitor, if you email low price request
no tx outside NJ, free ship
in stock, both AMX, AFX

www.zzounds.com

zzounds and americanmusicsupply are basically use the same exact inventory.

fixxed

zzounds and americanmusicalsupply basically use the same exact inventory

I would not have all the gear I have if it weren't for the guys at thedjhookup.com personally. The only thing is they run out quickly due to their prices. zzsounds is not bad either. They are one of the places I get the original quote from. TBH though I usually get the cheapest preliminary quotes from and then I head to thedjhookup.com who USUALLY beats them from the start but I have the quote as a backup.

The ONLY real catch is thedjhookup does not carry Rane anymore (as I think they got in trouble for selling to low LOL)

Whatever. JUST trying to help. I always say SHOP SHOP SHOP anyways no matter what!!

doesn't seem like thedjhookup can hook you up with AMX or AFX as a quick search on their site yielded zero results...

Yeah I meant for large ticket items in general. For small priced items such as the AMX even paying full price is not a huge deal. Take the usual 10-20% off of finding a deal and you are STILL only saving yourself from like $50 the most. When it comes to something like that I will opt for the fastest solution. I spend more than that on food everyday LOL.


For the AMX (and ALL low ticket items) specifically I FULLY recommend buying local at GC as you can NOT beat their support. I wish they were competitive enough for my buying needs all around but for large ticket items that 20% becomes $500+

GC has a warranty that is simply the best. I mean it is no different than others I am guessing but the close location now becomes a REAL advantage in a pinch or when time IS a factor.

I got my AMX with a three year extended warranty for the $250. MOST (if not all) my gear is currently under warranty and I am the type of guy who gets his money out of warranties LOL.


I have a ZERO deductible warranty on my iPhone (from Best Buy) and I used it SEVEN times in 2012 LOL. The $15 a month paid for itself on the first time but SIX times after that .............. no questions asked.


So anyways yeah in short as I said thedjhookup is not the best in terms of availability.
They don't carry Rane anymore, they don't carry lights, VERY limited selection of PA/speakers, etc. BUT when they DO have it the prices can NOT be beat.

Folks, thanks a lot for all these store recommendations, some of which I didn't know.

You are now on the path to $aving$ LOL.

speaking of $aving$...

when is Serato Remote going to go on sale for $9.99 again?

It'd be cool if Serato can let akai build a full fledged Mixer...AMX is amazing...but it'd be cool if there was a more Pro like Mixer...think of a Z2 look+Price but for Serato...we would still use the AFX on the side...that's what i'm waiting for and i know it's coming at some point.

But AMX/AFX is a good start

Iv been reading and other amx threads i feel i have to buy one just because it looks like i am going tobe the only one without one haha.

So what is the weight of the unit like? Is it heavey enough not to mive around when mixing/moving the faders?

Hi.is it possible to spit the amx into two seperate chanels on an external mixer.at present i have the amx plugged into my external mixer,but only one chanel on the mixer is controlling both chanels from the amx.i'm using it with windows 8,at first it was pretty unusable with dropouts,but after looking at the forum and tweaking my laptop its running pretty smooth. output is pretty low,but with the external mixer is ok.sound quality is ok,could be better for the price.the endless rotary gain takes getting used to,but with the vu on the amx its just really a case of turning the gain till the sound and lights pretty much match
its light and fits in my coat pocket.but not to light that it shifts around on my table.eq and filter section is more than adaquate.
Down faders are a bit stiff,but not a problem,crossfader is very smooth.headphone volume is a decent level for home use and a little house party,not sure what it would be like in amore louder enviroment..its a handy little controller..wish it would have come summer for the barbecue..thanks

Don't see a way of splitting the output, no. You would need a Rane SL box for that.
On another note, is there a reason the brake setting is greyed out when the AMX is connected? Some function I cannot see?

the amx has nice weight too it it may weigh a lil more than an NI x1.... it doesnt move around when i bang the x fader and upfaders on the table..

Everything is visible when plug in the amx,sorry cant help with the greying issue.yeah i didnt think you could seperate the chanels,thought there may be a workaround without the box,i can do it in traktor because it has those settings,,thanks

Sure you could. You could use the headphones as a separate output. Who would want to do this though? I have no idea.......

Oh yes the headphone socket,i will have to try that..well i use the amx to play music on mixlr,i use a mic.
No mic input on amx,so i have to use two pairs of headphones,one for cue on the amx,and one for hearing my voice on the mic via the external mixer.
Also i pull up a tune quick talking whilst bringing in the next one,with only one chanel on the external mixer both chanels on the amx are brought down,thus having to bring back up the chanel on external mixer for out put to be heard,
i can do the quick pull up on the amx,but i have to lean over to do that,the way i have it positioned.more convieinent to be able to do it all on the external mixer..thanks

Of course, what was I thinking, I even brought this up a month or two ago. I remember Akiem showed how to do use the ttm57 as an sl box back then, using the same method.
Using a mic, external fx are examples why some one might wanna do that...

Dave, did you notice the greyed out brake dial in setup? Am I missing something obvious, or possibly a little bug? I mean, the start brake is still available.

Well it works..thanks..the only issue is not hearing the effects on the headphone chanel on the external mixer,not a problem if you have effects section on the mixer.i thought there might be some difference in the sound quality using the headphone socket,but playing the same tracks via headphone socket and rca out on the amx..no difference.thanks

NAh you didn't miss anything. The thing is you CAN adjust the brake time but you must do before connecting.................. DEF something wrong here. I though maybe it deactivated when you turned on DVS but I tried with it deactivated as well. As you said though the start time is fine.

Yup, lets hope Serato will be able to make it adjustable all the time.
I need to check my other hardware to see if they are different. (SL4/900SRT/DDJ-SX).

Loving the AMX/AFX combo btw!

Just setup my AMX-AFX
Loving it too

You guys keep AMX on right or left?
What makes most sense if you're righ-handed?

I've got the same issue with the braking - stop time is disabled when AMX & AFX are connected, and also Smart Sync is disabled too. Any ideas?

Just discovered if you hold shift and click down on browse button your crates expand, collapse, very cool ,

Just in case someone here wasn't aware

Does AFX come with a free FLIP license?
I thought it did, but don't see it....?

I'm right handed, and so far, I prefer:
Far left: turntable A
Middle left: AMX
Middle right AFX
Far right: turntable B
(when running the 900SRT with the SP1, I normally put the SP1 behind the mixer...)

Nice one!

There was a voucher in my box at least, if missing, I'd contact support, and see if they could sort you out.

Oo just looked again in box and found voucher. Thanks
The other expansion pack. Wolf, i think. You have to register AFX to get serial

Thanks Warp

1 more question, why am i not hearing any FX when i mess with AFX,
I have touch enabled, see FX turn on in SDj, turn them up, and dont hear them
Should they come out through headphones.

You will only hear the FX on the output, turn cue mix knob far right to max position...
Not sure why, might be both hardware or software limitations, I guess....

DVS

If i turn cue mix knob. The volume goes as well

I wanted to listen to FX on my headphones.

Really sux you cant

You obviously CAN listen on your headphones just gotta switch to "master Cue" so to speak.


Set CUE MIX to Max then use as if you were using speakers.

in PFL or CUE mode this is not the case.

Hey guys, this is a logged bug. It will be fixed soon :)

Regards

Matt P

Oh so i have to raise the volume fader to hear it ?
I was just monitoring with faders down

Turn up master volume....

Ah, there you go...

Don't you worry bud......... I got you!! LOL. So you liking Serato DJ as a whole?

Yes i do like it,
The AFX is so worth the $$$,
Man its alot of fun..
My little setup is so cool
Just gotta find some small hardshell cases for these 2 babies

And of course i have to really learn how to use these things
The shift does quite a bit, as i found on AMX. Collapse, expand crates

Honestly I have come into this issue before and the SAME solution is always the best for me. Get a ATA flight case the size you want. SOOOO many sizes to choose from (possibly with the front/rear panel opening) then simply refoam it. Foam is literally the easiest material to work with. You want tight closed cell foam obviously then cut to size..............

from dj worx


There’s always room for improvement. I would’ve loved a high-res mode on the touch strip to really nail a specific spot on a track (the AMX has a solution for that), but after speaking to Akai I’ve learned that this will be part of an update that’s coming in a few weeks. So is a carrying case that will double as a stand raising the unit to mixer/turntable level – definitely high up on the “want” list, although in my opinion it should’ve been included in the package in the first place. Then again, NI made us buy them separately too, so you can’t blame Akai here. But I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Electrix absolutely nailed this with the Tweaker by including both a carrying case and four screw-on legs. Until official accessories hit the streets, you’ll have to improvise – I found that a Magma needle case works pretty well as a makeshift stand.

case coming


d3qk4yk8nq0n55.cloudfront.net

www.magma-bags.de

while it would be great if Akai included a case,
i would never expect one for 2 reasons

1- nobody ever includes cases with theit gear
2- these units are already dirt cheap for what you get

i like either of those 2, but i like that one dj-freestyle linked
question is, WHEN will they come out? i need 2 of 'em

Noticed the logos on the vinyl by the magmas. Got a hunch who the photographer is....

How about this suggestion for the AFX

Have all strip lights on top blink 15 seconds before song ends.

It now mailnly gives you position of song

I like this idea. What's the blinking time on the pio cdjs again? 30 sconds like the sdj/ssl gui?

Something like that. I would prefer to have the lights blink sequentially as well. Starting at full then diminishing to zero LED's.

What you say Serato, possible?

Great idea on the LED feedback.

I found that I don't like AFX not having a dim state on the FX on/off buttons. It's such a minor niggle and shouldn't bother me but things like that do.

Apparently it's coming in an update according to a guy from Numark on DJ Worx.

This!

I thought it did it until I used it.

The amx Does have low output. Using the AMX as the mac system soundcard also adds a volume variable to the output. On the mac platform if the AMX is selected as the soundcard, the volume controls for the computer will cause the AMX to have substantially lower output. If you find your output has become very low after starting up Serato DJ, reselect the AMX as the system soundcard and then increase the computer volume to max and you have the AMX at its highest possible output level, which is very close to standard.

Also Im a bit confused on the AFX. When used with the AMX does the AFX unlock two additional decks? OR are people using the AFX with a differant proprietary device that unlocks four decks? Ive noticed a few posts talking of deck 1/3 and 2/4. < what setup does this speak of ?

If you have a soundcard that can handle four decks like the Rane SL-4, Pioneer DJM-900 SRT or Rane sixty four then you'll control more decks. It can also be used with a controller to add more controls so any four deck device can be used. The AFX was designed to be used in different scenarios and different gear.

As the AMX is two channels you'll only unlock two channels in Serato DJ.

Hope it helps audiomontana.

K thank you . :)

So you want them to blink in all modes or just Search mode? If we were to do something like that it would probably make the most sense to tie it in with the 'Track End Warning' option in the Setup screen. When this is on the virtual deck blinks in the last 20 seconds of the track. I think it would only make sense to apply this to Search mode though. What do you guys think? Is this really that useful?

Yes, it is! every feature that does let me look less on my laptop screen is useful!

totally agree 20 sec left

20 seconds?

I must be spoiled - I find 10 sec to be plenty!

Very useful indeed! :-D

The problem with 10 seconds is that it blinks before the end of the files finish point which can have a fade out so effectively it could start warning you once it's actually finishing and it's too late while it's on the fade.

I wouldn't use this blinking feature as much as other people but i can see how others would.

I'd love to see the strips getting a proper scrub (Twitch style) and back lighting in the FX section in dim state.

I can't remember the last time I let a song play that long that only 20seconds were left.
So... No need for me/use for me. But it wouldn't bother me either

But I have to say I am a friend of "as little blinks as possible please.

I can totally relate to the "NASA effect" of all the blinking lights but in the same respect knowing how long you play your songs you would never see these blinks. TBH though a blinking affect SHOULD alarm you if it means the song is ending. That is the point of them. I actually share the same thoughts as nik39 on this and I hopefully would never see the lights either but god forbid I lose track of time during a slower part of the night and the song is about to end. I would have to agree with Mr. Wilks on the timing as 10 seconds won't really save you much. By all means you should already have the next song selected but I refuse to believe I am the only person to have ever let a song go and get into a conversation or something LOL.

All the colored lights can be cool but at the same time not unwelcome blinking.

like 2004?

traktor, deck settings, miscellaneous, track end warning variable time increment slider.

This pertains to the actual GUI no? We are speaking of the hardware lights.

"Track End Warning" is optional in setup,
all official hardware should follow the software setting IMO.
Easily turned off if preferred. :D

I used to think the same, but In dark booths mostly populated by pio gear these days,
= lightshows, so that kinda swayed my opinion the other way.

This also from working with akai apc controllers in ableton/resolume and using lemur & remote... Getting used to all that visual feedback. Maybe Im growing old, soft and weak?
;-)

Best solution really. Those that don't care for it leave it off, those that do have the option to adjust how long before the end to have flashing.
It's an adjustable setting that affects both the GUI & hardware.
IE: Screen & lights on hardware flash together.

I want this on my AFX strip lights

The only device I have that would do this (besides my CDJ-2000NXS's which I don't even know if they do) is the S8 and I didn't even realize this. Mostly due to what Nik39mentioned earlier that I tend to cut songs WAY before the end anyways.......................... Good to know though and I agree it should work harmoniously with the software/hardware.

Sorry, I see now that I phrased that wrong.
What I meant is the computer screen & hardware lights flash together.
I also seldom play a track to the end, but it does help in certain circumstances.
If you accidentally loaded a radio edit instead of the club mix, this is a big winner!

I'm finally getting mine today.

Let us know how you like.

And you should get AFX too. :-)

I'm loving it so far! I haven't gotten the AFX yet but I can clearly see it in my future. This is exactly what I needed to get me to try Serato DJ again. The filter is dope and the touch option is pretty dope as well. Like others have mentioned the sound output is kinda low but that's okay since I always use a secondary mixer. The mini innofader is perfect for cutting with. I ordered an innofader PNP for my Vestax 05 which should be here by Wednesday so I'll be able to compare the difference between the two faders. I just wish there was a battle bridge type of contraption to place the AMX firmly between my turntables.

I did manage to find a glitch with it though. I did something to cause the AMX to stop outputting sound. The meters were moving and the program was responding to my movement of the record but all I got was some popping noise. I unplugged the USB and then plugged it back in and everything worked normally again. I'm not sure what I did to cause that but I'll experiment with it more tomorrow to see if I can reproduce it.

Other than that minor glitch I think this was a very good purchase.

I had the same problem. What I found is if my computer has been on before I start serato dj this glitch is caused. Now I restart my computer before I start serato dj and have seen no signs of the glitch since I've started doing this.

A decent center click on the filter knob is my only gripe with it,what click that was there is pretty much gone now.
Apart from that its a great little controller

Good to know. Thanks!