Wtf i just got a 57

I hope those buttons aren't made out of Jolly Ranchers like the 68 :/

a mini 68 ? holy shit thats awesome!

yes i get to sell 1 of my 57's now!!

why isnt that just a 68?

Not sure what that thing is, but the 68 is both wider and deeper...

Can a ttm 68 owner confirm that this mixer could not be a ttm 68 ?? Because me too I'm not sure... :{
- It seems that this mixer has just one mic input (red cable)
- I don't see the cue buttons like for the 68
- the upfaders are not so closed as the 68
- the croosfader looks more centered than the 68
- I don't see the FX sections as the 68

Maybe it's simply not a rane mixer...

2 Channel deff not a 68

same colored buttons like in 68

doesnt beringer make a mixer that looks like the 86--with those colorful buttons?

i thought it may not be a rane also, but the wesite claims the photo was taken at serato....

im very very very very happy with my 57 tho

Cant wait for NAMM 2012 ......

those buttons look too big for my liking wtf is that thing...

well well well

Hmmmmmm, interesting.

almost seems like that red cable is connected to the bass player.

Def a 2 Channel something with Mintos colored buttons.

Is this similar to artists leaking their own tracks?

Or Celebs calling the Paparazzi's on themselves?

my 57 is going on Craigslist

looks like a livefeed session?
they might need my technical prowess.

Call it.... TTM-58 or TTM-60

The Serato team wears Weed T-Shirts!!!! Keepin it professional at the office!!!

So let me get this straight, because I group of guys are standing around chatting it up and there just happens to be a mixer there you think it's something new?? Gonna need something more concrete then that........

well yes but is a Picture of Serato Staff in a Serato facility with a mixer that isn't a 57 or 68 but looks a lot like something in between. and there is no mixer in the market that looks like that one on the picture so yes its something to at least wonder! ! !

S/O to devil's advocates in the thread.

A little deductive reasoning should give you a decent guess.

I'm ruling out that it's a Numark mixer @ the Serato office on the Serato twitter account.

....your turn.

Hahaa, ok then.........but I'd still like something alittle more.

We need forensics on this quick someine enlarge and invert the image, go through possible color shades look for tampering, get dexter in here for splatter evidence

Well seen!!!

ive had 3 people called me about my 57 on Craigslist in less than an hour

I see no SL1, SL2, SL3, or SL4 connected to the turntables or the mixer..... Yet there are turntables connected to the mixer and a laptop.....

If he is using a DVS, chances are he is using a Serato based DVS, in this case SSL.... Only two mixers that we know of come with SSL built in..... the 57 (2 Channel) and the 68 (4 Channel)................. Hmmmmm

Fuck, looks like I know where the spare money in my checking account is going.

x2

I also hope them buttons aren't those small hard to push buttons of the 57....


If they feel like Dicers...... PERFECT!

Im on my phone in iraq i cant see the picture. But wen i get home jan 6th im puttin my 57 for sale. This thing sounds mean

You really aren't missing much. All you can see is a set of turntables (from the back) with a 57ish mixer between them... that has 68ish lit buttons toward the top of the mixer.

LOL @ whoever made the Jolly Rancher reference on the 68. They are kinda like that!

LOL not only do we not know what this thing is but you haven't even seen the picture yet!

True that, come namm we will find out

Wen does namm start? Im home on jan 6th. Will i miss the first day anouncment or anythang?

Jan 18th

and




OH SHIT!!!!!

that's definitely not a 68 or a 57 and they have some big shit eating grins on their faces

Tracking I'm waiting for this but I won't be saling my 57. The 707 and the 56 are about to take a hike tho

dear Serato..............just tell us what it is already ! i cant sleep here thinking what kind of mixer that is ! LOL

Fuck i missed the link its gone now

the pic is gone! But I did take a look at it! The color buttons seems to be Rane's new modeling following suit of the 68, MP25/26.

Own a 68, but I definitely would grab the next gen 57 model!

I'm sure it will resurface. ;)

here you go: s1021.photobucket.com

Due to the fact that the pic is gone, one can only wonder if it is a new Rane mixer that had been accidentally or unintentionally leaked...or was it?? Hmmmmmm......

I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

ffft - any company that doesn't know how to build hype of of whether the photo was accidentally leaked or intentionally isn't worth their salt...

that said, doubtful that would be a fireable offence - taking a direct picture and posting that on the internet say "CHECK YOU THE NEW RANE MIXER!" would be a fireable offence. Whoever took that probably got a "use your head" talk and took the picture down...

that pic is too tinny to see anything

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

They totally "left" their new mixer in a bar wrapped in a 57 housing.

Oops I dropped my mixer.

I saved the pic before the link dead but I don't know if I will host it in a website since I don't to be in trouble with Serato/Rane !!
All i want is they will officialize this mixer soon by themselves...

One thing sure is that this photo is kind of embarrassed for Serato but why don't let people tease about that since the photo don't show enought details???
Maybe they closed this link because of the weed tee shirt ...LOL !! It's cool but it's not very professional/serious as a teaser leaked photo...

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street

you don't want to get in trouble with Serato/Rane? What are you, 5? :)

If you use Firefox you will find it if you use about:cache and click on the List cached entries in the Disk Cache Device section.

Do a search for instagram and you will eventually find the pic

which pic, this one? www.facebook.com

Yes this is it!!! So I don't have to worry about my "involing" in this leaked case now... LOL

The winter NAMM 2012 looks to be the biggest and the most expected event ever for real/advanced djs (not like this year where we have only seen entry level controllers and softwares)!
-Rane with a new TTM
-Serato with a new Itch version with probably VideoSL
-Denon with a new media player/: SC3900 or SC2900 or S3900...(remeber rebates on s3700 last year)
-Numark with a new replacement controller of the V7 (remenber rebates on V7 last year)
-Pioneer with the current DJM T1 and a futur DJM S1???
-Stanton with the scs 4dj, serato intro native support? A new higher model?
And more...

sob, i hate the value of my equipment diminishing

i was on a roll with my technics tables

i just sold my 57..... 1100 cash!

hmmm i wonder how much the new mixer is gonna cost..

1600 easy

Looks colorful but cool.
I do want a 3 channel though.

@black one... damn.... i get them wholesale (authorized and a-stock) for 1050 cash..... lol nice turn around on a used mixer.

and peeps don't forget about itch being deminished and intro "pro" coming out.... think about it, controllers (vci 300 and v7 being discontinued)... (ergo and vci 400) coming out without a software branding (ala itch on the vci 300).... yup, deny all you want on the software "pro" version and 58..... ;)

yep... some young kid picked it up. Daddys money!!!

I cant stop looking at that pic. God damn!

I bet the mods are just reading all this laughin hahhaha

lol

That is one way to look at it. But, I paid (if I remember correctly) $700 for a sound card. Most of the others in here paid over a grand for a specialized 2 channel battle mixer. Those effers should have to wear tuxedos to the office every day at the prices we're paying! I'm not crying about my SL3, I love it. But I paid $700 (or something like that) for it because it is a professional piece of equipment, that I use professionally. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )

wish they did all the deoxit on the buttons (good for 10 yrs) /no 68 buttons even

and split cue!

awww man i just noticed the weed shirt , dear serato,you guys are beyond cool ..... who do i have to kill to get a job there ?

I recently sold my backup 57 for $1000. Tempting to sell the other too.

So................ If theres an update to the 57 should a new 56 and 3 channel sera to mixer be on the way also??????????????

It's gotta be 3 channels or nothing for me............samples need thier own channel.....and the MIDI functions shouldn't be locked to Serato like the 57 (fail).

I'm saving my Pennies now......lol What to sell........lol

i agree on the money aspect of it but lets take out the pothead or funny guy wearing the weed shirt and replace him with a software engineer that has no dj/music knowledge and have him designing your interface you wouldnt be too happy would you? would you like people that relate and know the music business aspect of the game or some fucking nerd that knows code? (btw i dont smoke pot) so im not being biased towards pot smokers)

At the rate theyve been putting out these buggy releases it kinda makes me wonder...........I mean still no MIDI out for lights and such, no sync on the SP6...........Maybe it really is a guy wearing a suit & tie with djing knowledge. There alot more we could add to that list but it does make me wonder whos calling the shots, doesnt really seem like any djs are involed..........

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No DJing Knowledge.......

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i also +1 midi out request im not being a fanboy but you know serato pulls through for us and yea they have buggy releases but they try and work something out most of the time. Also they are releasing intro and itch stuff too bc they are a business not just a serato scratchlive company, i say use the stable version you are comfortable with and wait for a bomb proof release in the future, and Serato +1 midi out

people keep forgetting that rane is part of the SSL deal... and itch (soon to be gone) and intro / pro software is more on serato's "free reign"....

Itch ain't going anywhere.

you know what i mean dub ;)

really? have you ever worked or even set foot in a software company?

LMAO ! im with you soo,whats wrong with this dude,its just weed its not crack,Serato peeps can walk around in tight pink bodysuit smoking dead people ashes in the office ,they do makes excelllent product LMAO!!

Weed is good. God put weed on the earth for me, and you! Take advantage man! (smokey from friday voice)

Two channels = not for me.

As someone else said, it's so much better having a dedicated third channel for samples. Since I got the UDG creator I've been taking my Empath to gigs now. That and an SL3 is an awesome and super flexible setup.

Just need to decide on a solid controller route now. The dicers are staying but I'm thinking I may invest in an X1 unless something better comes along at NAMM

What is the mixer under the 68 in this photo:

instagr.am

BUZZZ AGAIN ???!!!

seriously ! those bastards ! stop teasing us and just tell us what the hell that is LMAO!!

i have blue balls from all this teasing

Guys.. Nick is really a cool dude. I don't know whether he is a regular pot guy but honestly i don't care as long as he is making his job well. And that's what he is doing. Have you checked out his latest sl demo video?
When was thread last time you saw a project manager kick ass and decks like this?? Usually these guys wear suits and don't know shit about djing.

if its 2 channel rane 68. im putting my shit(68) on ebay lol

all i want is 2 channels with the cue buttons and loops rolls. no efx... please.

LOL @ giving a shit about what's on dude's shirt. I'm not hangin' out at 4:20 but smoke it if you got it.

legalize it

it's not a 58! it's a 67!

because it's BELOW the 68 in the pic.

=P

hyperlink doesn't work.

"Sorry, this page cannot be found"

. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )

he does look like dude from half baked

This link still works

Now Pioneer DJM S1 !!!!!!!!!!

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No way......

LOL...I Know, it's a fake (I've done that with photoshop) but I would love to see this kind of mixer from Pioneer or Rane!

Forget the mixer, what kind of drum set is that?

Alesis electronic I believe, with Surge cymbals. Killer kit and pretty inexpensive for an electronic set up.

still very awesome! i like where u put alot of it!!! very cool. wish they companies would grab like 10 different djs form 10 different regions and professions of djing.

i think u spelled shuttle wrong. u spelled it shutle?

Oh damn u're right! I've made a mistake!!

Anyway, everybody knows that is a just a concept, so we can consider it as an extra proof of fakeness LOL

haha true. but still a very dope idea!!!!

just another 68

very dope concept

Nope! Just look at the front side panel and the buttons on the right...it's clearly not the 68!

Front-side panel?

either or?

HAHAHA That's what I do during banker's hours and then DJ on nights and weekends : )

-> the front panel where there is the headphone input ...

I'm french so sorry if I don't use the right words...

Ha! all good ;)

it looks as big as the 68..

the 57 is a 10 inch mixer and the 68 is a 12 inch mixer hard to eyeball...in that pic! ;)

gotcha

This ish is hot TTM 57 I'm sorry is history!

2012 coming soon ...

My top first priority/wish for this year: Be one of the first owners of the new TTM mixer !!!!!!

LOLLLLLLLLL

After the 57, I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation before being the guinea pig again

Thats fair.

If you want to wait three years - that's fine. :)

Damn!
I have the Denon DN-X1600 and realized I don't need 4 channels.
But I would have to have at least 3 of them to get enough money out of Ebay for that new mixer ;)
Need to find something to sell... who needs a finger, or two?! :D

How much for your arm? LOL

I was going to write arm but thought I couldn't DJ with only one arm :)

My wife has my balls in a jar on her night stand, I'll see if she gives them back to me so I can sell them for the new Rane mixer......

Why? The first gen 57 was better then the 2nd.

The 1600 is pretty solid for the money. I have had two 57s and the only thing I miss is the convenience of the easy setup.

Yea, I cant grumble too much about my first gen - I just remember silly little modifications that should have been thought about before it went in to production. Like the -15db attenuation on the channel gains that were swiftly changed to kills. And the buttons have been changed a few times now as well

Still happy with the 57, theres nothing I need that would make me buy something else now, its been a great workhorse.

It's very easy to "Monday morning Quaterback" after the fact, but the 57 first came out that mixer was tight to def. Sholud they get it right at this point and time with the new mixer.....YES! To say the 57 is weak or now some way garbage is not fair, it was the prototype and the best and first at that time.

What is a "Monday morning Quarterback"?

Did you type that because you couldn't spell hindsight?

When it came out it had some issues that people didn't like or there wouldn't have been modifications to the initial design. Lets not get forget the "mixtape DJs dream" nightmare either.

Also, who said the 57 was weak? Or garbage? Did you read any of this thread before you posted? You sound like a fanboi being defensive just for the sake of it

I've been using my first generation 57 since the first week it came out. Not one problem.

hopefully the buttons aren't shitty like the 57..... "oh you can just take your mixer apart and deoxit"..... thats like saying i should take the leaking taillights out of my car and shake the water out of them every so often because ford made shitty seals... #smh

Happy year my french dj!!!

Yo BattleFunk stop the "Bitchassness" it wasn't directed at you, it was a general statement. Just because a statement follows yours doesn't mean it's directed towards a previous comment that you made. "Monday morning Quaterback": Every football fan can tell you what should've been done during Sunday's game and they have ALL the answers after the fact. I'll just use hindsight to "dumb" it down for you the next time............

If it is a new rane mixer, what we all should do is save our money now, so when it drops you can tell the wifey's that you've saved for this and it's like free money.

Hell save for one month or a week ,or 10, you can tell them you've saved since jan of 2010, cause you heard there is a new mixer coming and yours is really old.

Well if this is the case, I'm just going to wait till it gets announced so ttm57s can flood craigslist. Suh-weet.

carefull with that, I was advised not to use a 57 with a laptop that has any of the i generation chipsets!so it makes sense that a new serato based mixer will be on the market soon.

just use the 57 with a dual core processor - case closed

oh yeah, i got the 1st gen -

yah i hear u, but frankly who wants to downgrade their laptop to use a mixer? I know I don't a new mixer with newer chipsets would be a way better business decision.

That i7 issue is fixed on the Mac with an OSX update. Just dont use 10.6.6

Yup works fine now with an "I" processor

I been using my new Mac with a i5 no problems with my 57

I use my 57 with a 2010 and 2011 macbook pro and have no 57 issues.

well rumor has it that the rane/serato partnership is just at the end of its contract so if a new mixer is not released at NAMM i think the partnership will be over and i think we'll be seeing the pioneer djm-s1 releasing very soon, or a collab with another big name partner like allen & heath,

Hopefully then RANE will unlock the MIDI functions of the 57 so I can use it with something else...........

Rane employees have said it's not MIDI capable--it's not locked but rather it doesn't work that way.

Ive seen it work with other programs but since Im no programmer Im not even gonna try to go through all that had to be done. Im sure with a firmware update it could made to used with other programs.

What programs?
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed "to death" before...
There is no midi on the 57.

Traktor & VDJ, the videos are private but it was sending messages from all the buttons and faders......

Hit me up on PM Insurgent, thanks!

Shenigans.

+1

Hehe. Well, the 68 supports MIDI, comes in real handy when working with applications like VDMX. > www.vidvox.net

Not everyone uses a mac, outside of the usa mac prices are so rediculous that they are pretty much unjustifiable!

plus its the entire I range not just the i7 my i5 just refuses to work with an sl1

I can totally understand why you want midi on the mixers. I doubt that vdj can totally"switch" the mixer into midi or read the mixer's midi signal. Because there is no midi signal.

Hi nik, Happy New Year!
Yeah, I know there's no midi from the 57, I just wrote so above, remember? :-D
However, there are some sort of control signals going through that USB bus.
I don't own the 57 myself, but doesn't it work with ME?

Theoretically I guess it would be possible to implement some sort of conversion from the Rane/Serato proprietary protocol to MIDI. Just like OSC/MIDI ?

However, I'm guessing the chances they will release something like that for the 57 to be quite slim, as it would make more sense dropping an updated/new mixer to boost sales?

Also nik, check your PM ;-)

Hey Warp,

happy new year to you too! :)

I was not precise when I wrote the post (it's hard to take care about formatting and all that stuff when you answer from a mobile device).

This was directed to you:

Because I think you don't need a justification for asking for Midi support.

This was direct to surgent:



Of course the signal has to be transported somehow ;) There must be a way to get hold of the transmitted signals, but I doubt that VDJ did this.
Hint: ME can't read the signal of the mixer if SL is not running.

PM... where?

Sure, tell me about it...


Sorry, forgot to hit the send button, DOH... PM sent now..

I think it only took 1 or 2 firmware updates along with ssl updates, but it was pretty solid in less than 6 months.

Wonder if it will work with the i processor chips?

The problem with i series processors is USB1 related, isn't it?

Rane would have to be smoking some serious crack to release a USB1 mixer in 2012!

All the Rane interfaces are USB2 now. Fear not.

curious if the dreaded 68 cue buttons will be included in the new release mixer ..............

curious whats wrong with the 68 buttons?
and assuming they are going to be on these new mixers

the pic looks like, all it is, is a ttm 57 with the 68 style buttons and sl3/usb2.0 built in

sl3? I only see 2 channels

you know what i mean..lol, i mean the new serato box hardware/usb 2.0, sl2

After posting that, I did think that if they did put an sl3 in there you culd have a seperate channel for the sp6 which would be nice!

With the 68, I have my sp6 and bridge audio on channel 3 and 4. I get to use built in, External, and ssl effects on any channel simultaneously, yeah love my 68! It only two inches wider than a 57 but seems bigger don't believe the negative hype, the 68 is an awesome mixer!

^^^ I have to agree.

i don't think it will happen, but maybe we'll get lucky, they'll will release a new ttm mixer with built in sl2 & a new empath mixer with sl3, you think that's to much to ask for?........lol

Amen! I don't own a 68 but have used it regularly as of late since my brother in law just got his about 2 months ago. That thing is awesome! Can't wait till NAMM 2012! Go Rane! :D

+ 1
I love my 68!!

the aux channel should be accessible by the software as opposed to the 57 - this was a big complaint but the 57 was designed before the sp6 was in the software...

it may not be EQ-able, but it should function as a 3rd channel to be accessed by the SP6 or the Bridge...

they don't feel very good - very stiff and it seems sometimes you need to hammer them to get em to work - granted i've never used a 68 - just played with one at the store...

best thing would be buttons like the Dicers or an MPC or something...

+1 mpc cue buttons

+1 3rd channel vol in the aux

just over 2 weeks to go.

I'm hoping there is a new 2 or 3 channel mixer with
2 USB ports.
aux software channel
soft controls for cues and loops
controls for DJ-FX or built in effects
midi capable
cup holder
& for
less than 2 grand

cup holder!!!!!!!!!! woooOOOOOoo!!!

agreed!

this what I hopes for


I actually like hard buttons over soft for shit that dont need to be pressure sensitive...

if this new mixer doesn't have a cup holder, I'm switching to whaktor!!!!

hopefully it has a "crush it" button.

even feeling like the 57 buttons would be a major step up from what the 68 buttons feel like...

I find this difficult to believe, and I hope it's not true.

More than enough said.

Whatever they release it has to be atleast 3channels so the samples can have a dedicated channel...........

You hear that serato let rane know we want a 3 channel mixer.....

Empath SL....I think even 68 owners would buy one I know I would.

maybe we'll see a SIXTY-THREE...?

SP-6ty.

SixtySP-6

Whats the big deal with the empath? is ij just b/c its a 3 channel 10 incher?

68 - 57 = 9 *12 (for 2012) = 108

108 /2 = 54
54+9 = 63
Rane TTM63

Now thats some math.

Yes.... and dual mike inputs, split cue & not cost more than the 57SL.

I want it to shoot lasers at different vibrating pulses that hypnotize people. And then have a secret compartment that can be used to stash cash, or a gun. And then I want it to have GPS so that if someone steals it I can locate it..... Oh Oh Oh and a self destruct button incase someone steals it and they are already too far for me to retrieve it. I can self destruct it and cause a huge explosion.

It also should have a warp core as its power source. Fusing Mater and Anti Matter using some sort of Flux Capacitor with slip stream capability with warp factor 8!!!!

psssh....warp factor 9 ftw.

smh...... Firing Photon Torpedoes while cloaked FTMFW!!!!!!

Someone in another thread said it's got a 4-in 4-out interface, seemed like he knew what he was talking about.

it better have captain kirk beam down to the gig a dj for us, "beam me down scotty the club can't handle me"

stick to the dj'in guys, comedy isn't your forte

i'm dead serious!!!!!!!

FIRING PHOTON TORPEDOES!!!!!!!!

What's split.cue?

the cue fader get's split in half by a photon torpedo!

so are they debuting this thing at NAMM or the next star trek convention?

that gave me a good laugh

The new TTM is going to assimilate all the other mixers and software into the Serato collective..... Resistance is Futile!!!!!!!!!

lol

I hope so but dont be surpised if they dont announce anything at NAMM, hey VIC PM me btw

Anyone how I can get a ticket to NAMM ? my bday is on jan 16th and i woulove to go for the first time ?

I missed the pic can someone repost it

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Enjoy ;)

That's the in-house Serato band. I hope they are performing at NAMM!

Berlin Wall, North & South Korea...
Seriously, pgm in left headphones ear, master in right.
The 57 doesn't have it, but the 68 does, so I'd expect any new SSL mixer to have...

They better...

I don't really care, never use it on my 68, never did on the 56 or any of the denon/vestax either, but for the ones depending on it, its a big deal...

I find the split que handy at times. Sometimes there are no booth speakers, then I split the que.

I havnt had a split cue since my Realistic - missed it everyday.
Need to be quet in an apartment.
Shit sound or a slight delay in the monitors.
Save your ears.
Can't wait!

Why split cue should be better than the rotary button which goes from full cue mode to full master mode and mixing them in the middle ???

That's what I use...

ive never used split cue before and dont think id have much of a need for it.

thanx for the 'splanation.

After 18 years of djing I need split cue to save my hearing

i hate split cue...always have...I use the fader option and master mix button if need be...cant wrap my head around how to properly use the split thing...drives me nuts!

I prefer the way the 57 cue is currently and I mix with in-ears only. It's actually better, because you can judge the levels perfectly in Stereo. Also if you get use to split cue and have to play on a mixer without it, your kinda screwed.

so, i was in guitar center the other day - eavesdropping to a shure rep talking to the gc manager in 2 weeks (announcement/and or relese), new stuff from rane and chauvet etc - kinna confused though how shure rep cares/knows about other products???? industry link?

We're not the only people allowed on the internet?

word, me 2...always preferred the crossfader type cue systems...guess its just personal preference but i've always disliked split cue...so much so that it could be the deciding factor in purchasing one mixer over another..

Same here.

The cueing system on the 68 for example is not very handy. It takes to long to switch between cueing a channel and cueing the master. Or from one channel to the other.

I have already suggested to have a dual-mode cueing system:
press "shift/layer" and "split cue" button, and then it will switch to a different mode where you can switch between cueing a single channel and cueing the master *without* having to turn this damn master/cue knob aaaaallll the way from one side to the other. It makes mixing less efficient.

^^ that is actually one of the reasons why I waited on the 68 (the big reason was the damn hard buttons)

I have been using the cueing system style that is on the 57 for a decade and it is so quick. I like your suggestion about the 68 cueing system Nik. I hope that gets implemented.

Nah, using spilt cue is like using one headphone on, one headphone off. I don't see how another mixer with or without it can hurt you as a DJ. I find that the dedicated cue/master of the 57 annoying. Plus, if you are rocking with an MC, you can't hear him half the time.

I don't use one ear on one off. I switched to both full on because it saves my hearing and also is way easier to mix all the songs at the same level. Also mixes are way more on point. Yes the current way the 68 cues is not as efficient as the 57.

I have never used split cue, but I've wanted to when there are no monitors.

I do change the phones to master and listen that way at times.
I do wish the 57 had split cue to hear both songs in different ears, but it's not a deal breaker.

aaah just realized why I want it.
The master out is great, but I can't hear both tracks while cueing up the next track, unless I move the phones fader to the middle, but those levels aren't the actual levels so you can't adjust the levels to those (maybe if you have the channel fader up all the way possibly)

The cue fader in the middle will accurately reflect the level/gain and eq of the incoming and currently playing tracks...Then again i always play with channel faders all the way up and use gains/main to increase level..but it is def reflected in the headphones

Am I the only one that thinks that this may actually be a 3 Chanel or what looks like possibly a 3 upfader 10 inch mixer. Maybe even an Empath-SL?

I love my Empath and would love to see an Empath-SL.

I have an older Vestax PMC-15 MKII I still use here from time to time, & it has IMO, still one of best Split Cue features out of any mixer I've ever spun on.. I think this one would even convert the hardest of the nay-sayers on here. came in handy numerous times back in the days in an apt. at night.

Thats one of the great features of the Rane Empath: Split Cue, and Cue Monitor, and Cue A - B lever simultaneously.

I so hope this is a 3 channel Rane Empath-SL with full MIDI mapability.

^This... I think this is the only other mixer that comes close to my old Vestax..
Damn Empath split cue saved my ass about 5 years back when a monitor I was using in a hot packed club decided to shut down on me.. don't care what anyone says - a proper split cue is invaluable, cuz u never know when that shit might happen & u need it.

So would I. If it's an Empath with the 57's sensibilities.

68 gives me a headache.

Owning an Empath and Empath Rotary, I keep praying (uselessly, no doubt) that Rane would develop an isolator that plugs in to the back of the Empath - between the mixers in & outs and the plugs - and a sleeve that provides MIDI functionality that's sit on the left or right of the mixer.

Sure it go from 10in to 12in, but not fussed. I'm sure they'd be capable.

regardless if your using split que or not, I would expect a mixer from rane to have it implemented.

Damn missed the link. Pot is good, alcohol bad

That's what I'm saying. It simulates using the one ear one off method without destroying your ears. It's (usually) the best of both worlds. I rock in ear monitors so I'm right there with you. I have not used the split cue on the 68 yet, but what makes it so bad? I would assume that you would keep split cue on the whole time. Why would you need to switch back and forth?

I actually just used the 57 for the first time on New Years Eve and loved it!!! I didn't touch any of the mixer effects (I was doing a live and direct for the radio didn't want to be messing around with stuff and mess up live lol) I've been so used to using the Denon 1500 with the separate cue buttons on a 4 channel mixer it took a little getting used to the fader cue but once I did I loved it!!! It was so quick to switch cues between the two turntables and now I'm interested to see what they do with this new mixer because after using it for a gig I want a 57 now!

Future product feature request(s) logged.

Oh and not to mention I didn't realize how clean that mixer was with the EQs flat never actually using a 57 before now I truly understand why anybody who had one loves it.

I switch back and forth from house to cue, not from split to house.

well if the namm site is anything to go by I think we can expect a something new,
12:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
3:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
5:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
www.namm.org

then friday
11:00am DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
1:00pm Z Trip Lets It Rip!
3:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
5:00pm Faust & Shortee - Come See What's New!!!
www.namm.org
so lots of mixer comparisons and fraust and shortee showing us something new, signs point to hardware indeed,

i wouldn't be suprised if we saw a new 2 channel and a new 3 channel mixer, and a rane midi controller or effects controller,
let the speculation contuine

can't find info about a press confrence which would defently confirm a new mixer but the deadline for booking one is 9th of Jan so hopefully its just not announced yet

i just got confirmation, from a guy who knows a guy that that picture was photoshopped

He wasn't really wearing a weed t-shirt

Hm .. i thought Shortee and Faust were on traitor ...

Damn auto correction ....

On Traktor not on traitor

You should see saturdays line up ;)

Shortee and Faust are huge supporters. Great group of DJ's and peoples. They're rocking Scratch Live.

I heard the new mixer has MOJO status.

i did,
11:00am Beat Junkies Anniversary Celebration
1:00pm Z Trip Lets It Rip!
3:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
5:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison

might aswell add sunday's too,
12:00pm Faust & Shortee - Come See What's New!!!
2:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
3:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison,


so what time is the press conference at Chad

Yay!

I initially was only going to attend on Thursday but after seeing Saturday's line up, I may end up taking an extra trip.

Fairly certain there is a press conference scheduled for 10am. That is the normal routine I remember from the past few years. There will be a place that will post info from the press conference immediately but I'll reveal that location Monday ;)

sweet.

If you're enjoying the Sound and performance on your 57SL , wait till you get your hands on an Empath.

The Empath is one of the most overlooked underrated mixers. I owned both the DJM-800 and the TTM57SL and was able to compare them to the Empath. Strictly going by quality of sound and straight mixer performance not based on effects or MIDI functions, hands down, the Empath is the BEST Jack of all trades. Its excellent for blending/mixing, scratching and cutting. It can do it all very well. I sold my 57SL and my DJM-800 and kept the Empath with an SL3 box.

Im not trying to turn this into a mixer contest, just stating my personal experience. And before anyone brings up magnetic faders Vs Penny + Giles:

* Let me tell you that performance wise they are equal.
* Durability...magnetic in theory should last forever, but Penny + Giles have such a super high life rating, you'll probably outgrow your mixer way before your P + G faders give out.
* Sound wise...I don't know if the Penny + Giles faders have anything to do with Sound, but I can tell you right now, the Empath sounds way cleaner, smoother, warmer, and more NATURAL than both the DJM-800 and the 57SL.

Don't get me wrong, I really think the 57 is an awesome mixer and ready for war day in day out, and the DJM-800 with 4 channels and effects fame is well earned, but pound for pound, traditional mixer functions vs traditional mixer functions and sound quality, the Empath is superior.

Now can you imagine all the current features of the Empath, and maintaining or improving the sound quality, adding MIDI, and maybe magnetic faders with reverse hamster? Wow!

The Sixty-Eight is not a Hip Hop Mixer and i´m ok with the CUE System at Sixty-Eight. for me it works fine :)

a really good improvment for a new Mixer should be the position of the backside USB Ports.
If you use the Sixty-Eight and plug-in XLR and TRS than its unpossible on a Party to plug-in USB cable in.

Anyone know how I can get a ticket to NAMM ? my bday is on jan 16th and i would love to go for the first time on jan 19th if anyone can help please let me know or email to djtirbalonline@gmail.com

correction djtribalonline@gmail.com

for info check this site: namm.org Unless someone can add you as guest, but i believe the free badge deadline was on the 5th

yep, you can still get a pass but there is a processing fee. Someone is always paying the namm fees too if you get a pass under them.

Also, if you end up going. You can pre order your grub here: reg2.showreg.net

you guys are all wrong. it's gonna be a one-channel mixer....and comes with an innofader.

with eSATA.

and a box of stickers!

pic.twitter.com

Best picture yet!!!

Seriously.

I'm not joking. That is an actual picture of the mixer.

Lets hope it not released 6 months from now

i believe you, great find,
the shit has most certainly hit the fan,
z-trip sorking on his namm set no doubt

working*

lets hope they have a edit option for this fourm soon too

Looks almost like a Vestax 05 Pro 4

looks like:

-there is a lot going on that mixer
-that is a prototype
-possibly new fader knob design
-it's a mini 68
-EQ knobs are either horizontally laid out or smushed between a row of other knobs.
-lots of buttons

i bet they won't be too happy about the leak, think its safe to say this guy Dj Dieselboy who leaked the pic won't be getting sponsership anytime soon

Yup just seen that tweet myself.

also don't see my cue crossfader... :-(

Wow, I guess my hopes of seeing a 3 channel Empath-SL are over. This is definitely a 2 Channel mixer. Looks like it has great Serato control functionality with all those buttons.

He doesn't need it =)

One of the top DnB DJs in America and arguably the world.

If this is the upgrade to 57 this is where my money is going.

it is, gonna be a lot of 57's for sale soon, hope its not releasing futher down the line,
my guess is either end of Jan or April 1st

I would'nt be surprise it looks like you can control everything from all the buttons that are in there.

Amen.



This is what baffles me. That as of yet there hasn't been one. They just need to ensure they deliver in fader and rotary, in the current body (the way the 57 is to a 56): none of this neon candy junk.

And...err...wouldn't a "reverse hamster" just be standard..?

All of this statement might be true but the guys at RANE will look at the numbers of most sold mixers and definitely the 57 is the most widely used mixer plus most of the FAnbase of this mixer are already requesting for an upgrade to keep up with the ever growing features of Scratchlive. The Idea of putting the serato box in the RANE mixer Is from a guy here in the forums.

Rane is watching this Forum very Closely.

First time I'm seeing this one with Z trip oh my that's a lot going on. I hope it is just a prototype that looks messy, but I'm still excited

guys look closely at the picture again, look at the software, is that an auto sync feature enabled?

57+11=68
68+11=79

TTM 79 SL!

i like the buttons on the side, assuming they are for cues like the 68.

does look like a lotta buttons crammed in there. and some huge knobs.

^^^ I'm sure that is a prototype, or at least thats my hope.

Do we really have to wait for NAMM?........The cat is already out.

i predict around april. unless they already have a bunch made already.

I'd rather see it in person, and hopefully get to play with it.

looking for at least 3 channels. I sold my 57 and gonna pull the trigger on a 68

my sl3 and empath are doing the job, with this release I'm going to sell them

An Empath SL would be nice. Why not?
SL1/2>57
SL4>68
SL3 needs a compatible mixer. Who's with me?

I'm with you, NAMM 2013!

I just want to see a solid 3 Chanel mixer that also allows you to take advantage of all the features of Scratch Live without having to add a seperate controller.

As for the reverse fader, thats a real nice feature on the 57 thats done at a push of a button. I am very far from being able to call myself a scratch DJ but I know that some DJ's would appreciate being able to scratch using their channel faders to open them on a reverse (downward) movement.


+1


Silly, but at the pace Rane is moving your probably right, LOL.

Nah, I get ya. Just being facetious: you know, cause hamster is already reversed.

Damn, it'd be nice, though. And no need for VUs either.




(Hell yes)+1^77.

*mmm, Empath-SL77*

HAHA @ Nik, auto correction or Freudian slip?





This is what I miss from the old Rane 19" club mixers. Nice stereo mix, click the buttons to toggle and blend accordingly. I've owned the 54, 56s and 57 and as much as I love these models (my 54 and I have memories) I've never liked the crossfader cue (on the 54 it was a engage master or cue button the same, but rotary instead of crossfader). It would be no problem if each channel had an individual cue button like the cue/pgm rotary, but I hate having to engage/disengage and then find a balance each time you want to switch channels, rather than keeping a set value you like and choosing the cue from the channel itself.

14 years as a Rane owner, 3 models of TTM and that's been my only complaint.

looking at the number of buttons and knobs on the side in comparison tot he 68, my guess is that those are the looping controls.

Definitely not a mixer to use if you drink at the club. Looks like a whole lot of stuff could go terribly wrong...haha.

Drinking and Using that mixer will cause Trainwreck.

I love the crossfader cue and I prolly wont be selling my 57 unless this new mixer is leaps and bounds above. I have dicers and Im about to get a x1 I really dont see the need for a new rane mixer unless its a three channel

Rane Three channel so if its a 2 channel mixer now go back to the board and add another channel dont. If its three channels kiss the crossfader cue option good bye

looks like the pic got removed,
good thing i saved a copy,

image.bayimg.com

link fail,

bayimg.com

That's no mixer, it's a space station...

thanks dj dannyd

That thing is amazing!

Here's a different view:

farm8.staticflickr.com

The mixer looks incredibly busy but in a good way.

This is What I like about this forum bunch of resourceful people.

another different view:
img18.imageshack.us

are you a spin doctor?

Forget the mixer. What's he drinking?

I like it, basically a 2 channel mixer with the 68 fx engine, que and loop controlls for SSL,
lets pray it comes with dual usb ports...

buttons aren't really interesting me... its the post fader efx and aux out / software link that interests me.... i have dicers for my looping, instant doubles, cue, and more.... i mix at various clubs and they are going to have different mixers, i don't like to get used to something that isn't at every spot... hence bringing dicers and more.

Hope they've changed the layout!!! It looks very messy! Too much buttons so closed each other !
I prefer x100 times the Pioneer DJM T1 layout!!!

Im with you on that. Also include a 96khz sample rate on the soundcard. Please get this right Rane and dont charge an arm and a leg for this either, we are still in a recession damn it.

You make a very good point. Thats why I went out and got me a pir of dicers but I was turned off by the some functions requiring SHIFTbuttons.

I didnt know that Dicer Tools software existed to help with this till after I took the Dicers back to the store. I purchased the DENON HC1000S and the layout was so familiar to me from day one since it kinda mirrors Serato functions. Since I found a good place for it in front of my mixer I'm really liking the HC1000S but I miss the Dicers on the tables and I dont want multiple controllers nor do I have a fourth USB plug and I dont want a USB hub with extra wires.

dicetools ='s me :)

My question is.....where are the vu meters?!

dizzamn!!!! I know theres a new 2 channel mixer too!

the buttons ARE the meters!


j/k

Wrong!!!
The meters are right next to the waveforms.
LOL

if they really are leaving the meters in software only ill be pretty sad

silence in the track...record not moving...gains are lowered...

You idiots, that's the Behringer DDM4000. Ain't no new mixer coming out from Rane this year.

quick math problem....whats ddm4000 - 2 channels =?

lol wow.... really?

You need your eyes checked out ;)

Message for Rane:

If this thing hasn't got any VU meters, don't bother showing up at NAMM. Seriously. You'll just be wasting everyone's time.

Alrightey...I wasn't gonna say sh** about it...but here it is....I'm gonna let it all out of the bag for y'all...I don't care if the Rane guys get mad at me....here's the real mixer that everyone is catching a boner about.

i90.photobucket.com

it has to be a prototype.... looks too messy

That berhinger actually looks pretty sweet

Rane: "D'oh! I knew we forgot something!"

most likely the vu meters will be up around the eq's like the 68,
if you think it won't have any your smoking crack

i'm going to get outraged at some assumption i make based of a grainy, leaked photograph! take that rane.

Where is the Flux Capacitor?

any thunderbolt port?

yep, 4 thunderbolt ports & a scsi for good measure.

I can't see the picture!

maybe somebody will post another different view of it to help ya out

all the pics are still here bar the original twitter pic,

here is the best angle
farm8.staticflickr.com

i heard the new mixer has a Auto sync button

quit talking in ways that back up your name

lol

I think this would be useful as an option for synching the SP6 samples and effects only.

LOOOOL

bwahahahahahahahahahaahaha i also heard the new mixer is not the _black_ one

Time for a commercial break

youtu.be

enjoy!!!!!!

HaHaHa...
Great video.
Thanks

Time will tell.... Time will tell.. I will be with the crew from agiprodj.com and we will have all the info at 10am.. the first day of the show.

I didn't know Carlos Mencia DJ'd.

WTF no crossfader on this mixer! Screw that!

please throat punch DJ ty. His videos are horrible. Thanx #TRUTH

Covered by his arm. Doh!

Rane TTM 63 SL

www.facebook.com Check it out ;)

Tease =p

Hey I am going to be there with them also. See you there.

Finally!!! Welcome to 2009.

:-D

We also heard there is something called myspot or myspace or something like that. We should look into it.

rane ttm 63 ....... 63 63 63 63 63

Nah. Myspace is almost dead. So in fact you somehow should join :p
Can say that you have been there to your grandchildren ;)

chad said a namm tease after lunch.

unless its some info on spec or a high res overhead image i don't think it's going to be any better then the leaked z-trip pic

It's gonna be RANE TTM-62 and most like goes into production late Feb. You can connect 2 computers, I think. Cheach!!!!

i bet that leaked pic was taken over 6 months ago, im sure they have added a 3rd channel and more buttons by now...


hey rane theres that 3rd channel mentioned again

Note to Rane: For the TTM57SL replacement, please do not make an off-centered crossfader assembly like you did on the TTM68. Please go easy on the kaleidoscope of Lite Bright (www.google.com) button colors too... that is all.

As for the ztrip pic... it looks as if the bottom half of the mixer is missing its top plate, so I'd assume that's not the final-final product.

As much as I want and EmpathSL I guess a 2 channel with the ability to route the AUX/SP6/Bridge through the mixer AUX is semi-acceptable. If one can Cue the Aux in, it would be even more acceptable and I suppose that would satiate most people enough. Yeah its cool rocking 3 decks but perhaps just one channel is internal routed to AUX and we use midi to control it. Lets just hope that everything in the mixer is routable and MIDI so that updates can add new features.

oh and btw, Happy New Year to all (yeah i'm late like that...)

final question, have p&p shipped anywhere?

See some name guessing here.
I think it will be TTM-58SL

Give me this feature and I will get it asap:
Denon-like flex faders (=adjustable tension) on both up- and crossfaders.
+ ability to turn off the crossfader.

I realized I don't need 4 channels since I have a 4-channel mixer :)

if anything it will be the sixty-seven to follow the newer line

What about TTM3:16?

A lil birdy told me a while back 58 but cannot confirm if true or not

According to the schedule..... every day is a mixer comparison.... I mean....... I might be guessing but I am assuming they have mixers coming out.....

69 dudes!

static.gamesradar.com

it will be an sl5

with built in crossfader. only.

it's not called the 58

i79.photobucket.com

What's the picture?

Serato's new Ipad software, to run on generic tablets. Comes with the new mixer.

lol

Wish!

it's gonna be an itch mixer with the capabilities of serato intro build in...

Sadly I could see this...

If so imma develop replacement buttons for the 57 and 68 with rubber tops in different colors...

Already did for the knobs...but honestly Serato and Rane as a company (IN MY OPINION) keep up and ahead of the areas they should...so I highly doubt itll be a dissapointment.

i don't think so, just look at sl1 they replaced it with sl2, it only makes sense that they will replace the 57 as it's the same hardware in side, besides how easy would it be for them to take a 57 change the look buttons etc. & put sl2 inside & make a SH!T load of money!

The Flux Capacitor Damn!T!!!!!!!! 1.21 Gigawatts!!!!!!

No buggy cue buttons FTW!

Why not many mixers instead of juste one for 57sl replacement?

I could be:
a "basic" 2ch SSL mixer
+
a "intermediate" 3ch SSL mixer
+
a "top" 4ch SSL (a kind of fixed 68) mixer
+
A the world first SSL + ITCH mixer

SSL + Itch needs to happen already, with Bridge-compatible 4-channel Video SL .

That's the only reason I'm slightly let down by the layout of this one, because it doesn't look to have any features in that direction beyond what came out in the 68.

So hopefully there is another mixer or controller coming.

they want seperate product lines which is why the seperation of itch and ssl...serato
they want to distinguish themsleves from other companies with a box for everyone...rane

With Traktor and most the otheres you got pro, basic and some other random titles...
Pioneer, Numark, etc you got entry level, mid level and pro stuff..

SSL is their standard period...you dont use a timecode devive get their controller setup...
or your new to this get the intro and figure it out (obviously thats their product to "diversify" and I hate it needs to exist...but I see the NEED)

Same with RANE...your not gonna go but a starter RANE mixer...someone says: "hey does your mixer have X connection" I never respond yes I always go: "its a RANE"...90% of sound techs know what to do from there...

My point is its a quality standard thing...one of the reasons I chose to stay loyal to the brands (plural).

But only time will tell...

*youre not goona go buy^^^^

I like this idea. I hope to see several new mixers not just one.

I want to see an updated TTM57SL (TTM58SL?), and I want to see a Empath clone no matter under what name it goes by, just make sure you keep all the awesome functions of the original.

Rane Empath = 3 channels + Aux = 3 and a half almost 4 channels in a compact 10 inch format!

Rane and Serato have EARNED my loyalty too.

My denon 1600 came with a copy of traktor so i figured why not just to see. no thank you. i big no thank you. not my thing. i like serato's layout and how easy it was to learn when we all went digital. the forum has been so helpful so i hope we get a update 57 among otherthings. i have a 57 besides my 1600 but would like a updated 57 for sure and video for itch. my wishes for sure.

the 1600 is a solid mixer.

"Uncle Ricky can you tell us a bed time story, please?"
" Once upon a time, not long ago, when people wore SKINNY JEANS and lived life FAST": I had a friend that was so excited to try Traktor Pro. He had been out of the DJ scene for about 10+ years. I tried to explain the benefits of Serato, but we wasnt having any part of Serato. He even bought not one, but two Denon 1600's for Traktor compatibility and to have a turntable setup and a Denon 3700 setup. Before he got to sport out Traktor I found a good deal on an SL4 and he actually got it on a trade so he said what the heck, Ill just keep Serato as a back up. But temptation, curiosity, and my constant commenting on what a great deal he got, got the best of him and he decided to try it. That was a mistake...for him. The minute he tried Serato he felt at home on it even though he had never used a software based setup. He was was like "Yo I've been messing with Serato, its ok it works real well". Weeks later he tried to fire up Traktor and again and again and again. Each time there was some tweak he had to do, each time there was some adjustment needed. Each time he had to re-calibrate at start up. Finaly he got Traktor running the way it should and after less than an hour...crash. Traktor crashed on him. Years of expectations, months of planning, thousands of dollars invested, and hours spent on setup, and it crashes. The very next day he calls me and says "You know what Serato just did?". I was ready to hear that now something went wrong with Serato and its my fault I convinced him to get the SL4. He answered with a realy heavy tone " I accidentally left Serato on all night, and this morning I go to turn on my laptop and then...the B**** (Serato) started right back up instantly where I had left it running. F**** Traktor, I will never use that thing again! Imagine me using that at a live gig!". Man I was releived to hear it was something good, LOL. He was like "You were right about Serato". It felt pretty good to hear that.

Cool story but there are numerous posts online about issues with the DN-X1600 and Traktor so that could be part of the problem.

Well I dont own a DN-X1600 but Ive read nothing but positive reviews and feedback.

it's gonna be the first ever TTM mixer with ITCH or INTRO built in and NO platter control.

Nothing but positive reviews and feedback huh.....how about this

Well the story I told was about Traktor, not the Denon X1600. Although I cant rule out that there maybe some communication problems between Traktor and the Denon X1600. Like I said Ive never owned a Denon mixer, but supposedly they are pretty good. I will stick my Empath though. You have to work real hard to make a better mixer to at a greater value to get me to give up my Empath.

jst a thought Serato.. Rane.. how come u guys aren't at CES shows? I know your market is specific but it seems evry freakin body nowadays is a dj anyways.. jst curious cuz this guy here was @ CES last yr.. for Pioneer maybe? (assumption based on mixer in video -- i think they also unveiled DDJ cntrls there):

Watchwww.youtube.com

Maybe a channel u guys can use to unveil ur "noobie toys" and leave the real stuff for the pros @ Namm..

hahaha basically the auto sync version of sl plus ability to use 1200s with itch time code vinyl

after all right now both interfaces have a lot of similarities in the way the interface looks ...

How dare you...... Itch and Scratch Live....... Wat?????????

This was actually for Speck Cases. We had ship the mixer too.

Take a good look, it's a 3ch.

Look on the left of the mixer and the input section, 3ch.

CES is still a huge tradeshow, but i still remember the days when video game stuff was unveiled there and more... namm is where it is at for the music folk... most of the people at ces are worried about mobile stuff, tablets, and the next tv....

third channel could be via rotary control, like the new 05

Hey man many people look out for the reviews that he does. It take time out of the day to do them. And you know know dj ty and agiprodj because of it so the videos are working. :-)

I've personally dealt with him and I have his back %100. Agiprodj is my favorite place to order from even though I'm in the east coast. They always give great deals and c'mon if you've watched his videos how can't you like the guy?

After the 68, the x1700/x1600 is my second favorite 4 ch mixer. I have no experience using them with traktor though...

dude the 57 is almost unheard of in the uk, mos clubs here use the pioneer! Asking for an empath at west end dj the guy looked at me like i had 3 heads!

I am not saying that it is not a good mixer. I am saying that there are issues using it with Traktor. There are also issues using the DJM-900 with Traktor.

...the bass blayer... sam gribben?

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With this picutre,if we compare to te 68, we can see that the new mixer will have:
1. Dual USB port (top right button like the 68 to select the usb input)
2. Internal FX (bottom left blue button with the 2 upper knobs) for the 2 main channels
3. a 3rd channel !!! (mic input session with the green button on the top like the 68)
4. Dedicated 6 buttons for the sp6 (blue buttons below the channels knobs)
5. classic loops buttons and knobs (like the 68)
6. 10 or 12 weird buttons (yellow or green buttons above the upfaders) for cues ??? I DON'T LIKE !!!!!!! too small to closed together
7. a central panel (below the sp6 buttons) for FX? sampler levels? custom functions? players functions (play, cue, shuttle...ITCH capable) ?

What do you think ?

Which ones tje sync button lol jk

the one at the back next to the power cord ;-)

For us mobile guys denon has always been the best. It has always taken the beating and for the money lasted the longest. I get why pioneer is the standard but i have never unerstood it. havign used both alot i soooo dont get it. I love my ttm tho to. i feel like rane and denon build way better products. pioneer always seems way to plastic to me. just my thought.

I'm a mobile guy and I have 5 57s going out every weekend. They are the most solid mixers I have ever used...besides the Vestex PMC-05, which may not be as good as the Rane can be throw off a cliff and the thing will keep moving. It is a metal monster.

Besides all the MIDI functions and effects and soundcards, I still prefer the Empath because its only 10 inches, yet has beautiful warm sound, the most complete cue system possible, effects signal send and return, Auto Gain, a really nice layout, and has 3 almost 4 channels if you use the Aux. Mic in also has the effects send and return. This is why I would love to own a Serato version of the Empath.


LOL. Yeah Rane is mainly marketed in the US, but you guys have Allen Heath, and ecler.
Although for durability I will put whatever money you want on a Rane Vs anything.

So maybe Traktor is the problem with these mixers.


Is that a new version of Scratch Live or what version is that? DJ Intro?


Denon is known to offer the best value for your money, but back in the day Denon was at the high end of the DJ market it was beyond Pioneer pricey for its time. Very few people could afford Denon dual CD players. Pioneer wasnt even in the DJ scene.

Hey guys I keep thinking that the mixers in the two pictures are two different mixers. One looks like it might be a 3 channel and the other for sure is a 2 channel. Am I right or am is it my wishful thinking?

Link above, that is scratch live with the bridge.

So that lower screen pops up when you are on the bridge and is already the current Scratch Live version?

Yeah. Video from NAMM 2010: Watchwww.youtube.com

I havent messed with the Bridge at all. I almost bought Ableton DJ Intro. I have V ideo SL and havent had a chance to mess with that either, but I am definitely going to get on Video SL soon, thats another reason why Im hoping for a new 3 channel mixer. I think the 3rd channel would help me be more creative even with Video SL.

You do know that the video only works on 2 channels right?

Also you need the full version of Ableton to use the Bridge.

There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
www.ableton.com

I can't believe I can update from my old Ableton 3 to 8 for $150! I think I'm going to do that!

I'm guessing there will be a new version pretty soon? Maybe at Namm?

farm8.staticflickr.com

Audio, Ive already commented on that picture. I'm talking about Ableton Live....

No I havent really messed with it, Thanks.


Hopefully for both The Bridge and Video SL. And if there is a Video SL, I hope its like Scratch Live where upgraded versions are free. I dont want to pay for that plug in again. Since Video SL is on sale I suspect there have to be some changes coming for Video SL as well.

It does 100% just lıke everything else.
You can use all functions for 30 days. After that you will need to buy a license.
The Bridge comes with Live 8 and Suite 8. But not with Live Intro.

I'm sure that you confused audio 1 since all you said was:
and... nothing solid just guesses and believing :p

Anyone can see something else?

bwahahahaha yea keep dreaming!!!!!! about the an update for the bridge and vsl cause it an't gonna happen!!!!!!!!!

why cause the main brains behind those two plugins was Nathan H and he no longer works for serato. plus according to the way updates were in 2011 with bugs and instability of the program you think Serato at this point will risk the stability of sl which took them the whole 2011 calendar year to get right and introduce more problems into the system in 2012 with an update for the bridge and vsl.

they need to offer nathan H an extortionate amount of money to come back to work for team serato then

^^^^^^ also why do you think the introduction of vsl and bridge to itch for 2011 as Serato had anticipated did not turn out as it was supposed to be.

well the answer to that is cause Nathan H the person who would have been supposedly working on it/ coding it hard left Serato.

nathan stated before he left that there was more than enough code written for another vsl update, as for bridge who knows.

they could just start from scatch with VSL since the guy who created it is no longer working for them. If you have a single point of failure as a company then bringing VSL into the picture was a bad move on their from jump if there was only one person who could effectively write code for the software.

With tha being said Im sure Serato nor Rane put all their eggs in one basket, if they did well shame on them

A better idea would be for Serato to purchase Mix Emergency from inklen and simply repackage it. All the work is done and it is a way better product then the current VSL. Since Nick used to be a part of Serato I am sure they could work something out.

what the big deal, ME or VSL, when i play out people don't know the difference, they party no matter what software i use to play my vidz ME or VSL

the big deal is that in performance to "THE USER" as opposed to the party go'er that one product is clearly better than the other. & the one that is better is made by a different company as opposed to it being in house.

Do you own ME? I am assuming no. ME is less cpu intensive, has cleaner output quality, way better effects and the ability to record with no image quality loss. Nick is also constantly developing new effects and updates for the program. It would be a win win situation for everyone.

ME is better no question there, i've used both, just saying for the party goer it didn't make a difference what was used & yes it would be a WIN WIN

I think the only problem is that there is no Windows version of ME.

How many VSL users do you know which use VSL on a *PC*?

you know the answer to that, NONE, funny story i don't know if i'm 100% correct, but this year a the dj expo Joshua Carl was saying somthing like he had alieanware pc that he uses for video with zero issue than he switched to a mac and had some issues

now don't quote me on that i'm not 100% sure you would have to ask him

JC, holllla.

he now uses ME

I do and its flawless........Asus laptops rule, lol!!

Uh, yeah, right.

+ 1 on ASUS!

looks like it no longer has a crossfader for the cue's? fail?

:(

noob question, can VSL or ME be used for karaoke ?

if you convert you files to mp4 yes

karaoke? u gotta be kidding

i used a dell studio 15 with no issues,then i brought a mac and haven't looked back since

Why would I lie?? Everybody always said I'd never get it to work on a PC so i downloaded some new drivers tweaked the codecs and boom, VSL running on a PC.

I use it on a PC as well - you're fighting a losing battle on this one though, the fanboys are strong up in here lol

Wait til they come out with the update for VSL next week. They've hooked us up with that VSL sale for the past month or so already. An update is bound to come out. Either that or there is the Video Mixing Battle happening for DMC this year.

I'd say both things are happening

They have to take VSL to 4 channels already.

Easier said than done. Do you think laptops these days can handle 4 streams x 4 tcv + output window?

think about this one before you say something like that

Why? Mixing four videos would look like scrambled eggs. Dj's have trouble mixing two videos.

I totally agree. Mixer is way too cramp. The EQs look like they're too close together with everything else. I was never too crazy about how small rane's EQ knobs are.

Don't patronize here man, of course I thought about it. And I don't care what kinda computer it takes to run, laptop or not.

I'm not looking to spin LMFAO and Rihanna to club guidos, where 2 channels is fine.

VSL is also the best audiovisual performance instrument going right now--you can play audiovisual melodies and rhythms with almost no latency and tons of control. Having only 2 channels for something like this is a big limitation, though.

Saying 4 channels=scrambled eggs is just small-minded thinking. If they ever give it to us, plenty of people will show you what to do with it.

What type of images are you thinking about in regard to this? Music videos would be too messy. Ambient visuals perhaps? I'm really curious as to what could be done.

Sorry not sure if this is where I should be posting this but I don't think the 58 forum is public yet:

Alright so my TTM58 just arrived but has anyone else noticed a dropout issue when hooked up to a MBP running Snow Leopard? It runs flawless on my Lion instal.. ????

It would be horriable from club use but it could be amasing for a preplanned performance

58? You got any pics?

Ill post the ones of mine, just came in havent even hooked it up yet

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let the fun begin. :)

I get drop outs on the right hand USB on my 58... Only happens when I activate the cup holder though...

I want 3 deck videos. Not to mix together at once, but having a 3rd deck in cue, capable of video would speed me up hugely and stop me working around my sl3 aux playing audio only...

Is that bad for the sl3

Slightly off topic.....

How about for 4 deck video mixing, have decks 3 & 4 control fx parameters for video fx placed on decks 1 & 2?

Sure, you could have the fx parameters direct with 1 & 2, but you can't mess with them if that's what you want played thru the main output.

Basically it would be using decks 3 & 4 as fx parameter controls with sound linked to your manipulations and visuals of 1 & 2.

A midi controller is much more affordable and useable

+1

screw the new mixer , the club im working just installed DJM900 + SL4 that shittt roooocked !!!! hells yeaaaaah

I can seem to get the sync button to work on my TTM58SL. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

make sure shift lock is off and make sure "simple sync" is turned on (shift then click twice)

If you wanna activate the "smart sync",
you need to find the hidden easter egg for the TTM58SL in SSL 2.3.4...

Is that Echa from sky garden in Bali?

your spelling and grammar is amasingly horriable

Ha!

No new dirt?

yoooo brotha ! finally met you in this forum ,hows US? when ru back in asia ? hit me up yooo

It's alright mate, my SL3 always forgives me... we have that kinda relationship :D

So who's going to be broadcasting the Namm Serato showcasing for those of us who couldn't get to go?

I'll be doing my best to get some pics up asap. Details on the new Rane mixer will be here too...www.facebook.com

Cool bro, much love, nhm (nohomo).