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The New TTM Mixer is here !!!!

Djkom 6:51 PM - 23 December, 2011
Just look at the Serato Team pic:

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For sure it's not the 68 because we can only see 2 upfaders, the buttons and the knob are not the same !!!

So is it the new TTM 58 or something like dat ???
djdalite 6:54 PM - 23 December, 2011
Wtf i just got a 57
Kool DJ Sheak One 6:55 PM - 23 December, 2011
I hope those buttons aren't made out of Jolly Ranchers like the 68 :/
echa1945mf 6:57 PM - 23 December, 2011
a mini 68 ? holy shit thats awesome!
Culprit 6:59 PM - 23 December, 2011
yes i get to sell 1 of my 57's now!!
bicedidit 7:10 PM - 23 December, 2011
why isnt that just a 68?
WarpNote 7:15 PM - 23 December, 2011
Not sure what that thing is, but the 68 is both wider and deeper...
Djkom 7:28 PM - 23 December, 2011
Can a ttm 68 owner confirm that this mixer could not be a ttm 68 ?? Because me too I'm not sure... :{
- It seems that this mixer has just one mic input (red cable)
- I don't see the cue buttons like for the 68
- the upfaders are not so closed as the 68
- the croosfader looks more centered than the 68
- I don't see the FX sections as the 68

Maybe it's simply not a rane mixer...
echa1945mf 7:30 PM - 23 December, 2011
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Can a ttm 68 owner confirm that this mixer could not be a ttm 68 ?? Because me too I'm not sure... :{
- It seems that this mixer has just one mic input (red cable)
- I don't see the cue buttons like for the 68
- the upfaders are not so closed as the 68
- the croosfader looks more centered than the 68
- I don't see the FX sections as the 68

Maybe it's simply not a rane mixer...


2 Channel deff not a 68

same colored buttons like in 68
bicedidit 7:33 PM - 23 December, 2011
doesnt beringer make a mixer that looks like the 86--with those colorful buttons?

i thought it may not be a rane also, but the wesite claims the photo was taken at serato....

im very very very very happy with my 57 tho
Jiggy Flipp L.O.T 7:36 PM - 23 December, 2011
Cant wait for NAMM 2012 ......
DJ Tecniq 7:42 PM - 23 December, 2011
those buttons look too big for my liking wtf is that thing...
reggae delgado 7:48 PM - 23 December, 2011
well well well
DJ Quartz 7:53 PM - 23 December, 2011
Hmmmmmm, interesting.
FunkyRob 7:54 PM - 23 December, 2011
almost seems like that red cable is connected to the bass player.
Swizzle 8:00 PM - 23 December, 2011
Def a 2 Channel something with Mintos colored buttons.

Is this similar to artists leaking their own tracks?

Or Celebs calling the Paparazzi's on themselves?
the_black_one 8:12 PM - 23 December, 2011
my 57 is going on Craigslist
Kool DJ Sheak One 8:16 PM - 23 December, 2011
looks like a livefeed session?
they might need my technical prowess.
DJ Quartz 8:29 PM - 23 December, 2011
Call it.... TTM-58 or TTM-60
HandsomeRobDJ 8:34 PM - 23 December, 2011
The Serato team wears Weed T-Shirts!!!! Keepin it professional at the office!!!
the SOUNDINSURGENT 8:40 PM - 23 December, 2011
So let me get this straight, because I group of guys are standing around chatting it up and there just happens to be a mixer there you think it's something new?? Gonna need something more concrete then that........
aj5000 8:53 PM - 23 December, 2011
well yes but is a Picture of Serato Staff in a Serato facility with a mixer that isn't a 57 or 68 but looks a lot like something in between. and there is no mixer in the market that looks like that one on the picture so yes its something to at least wonder! ! !
Swizzle 8:55 PM - 23 December, 2011
S/O to devil's advocates in the thread.

A little deductive reasoning should give you a decent guess.

I'm ruling out that it's a Numark mixer @ the Serato office on the Serato twitter account.

....your turn.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 8:59 PM - 23 December, 2011
Hahaa, ok then.........but I'd still like something alittle more.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:03 PM - 23 December, 2011
We need forensics on this quick someine enlarge and invert the image, go through possible color shades look for tampering, get dexter in here for splatter evidence
Djkom 9:20 PM - 23 December, 2011
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The Serato team wears Weed T-Shirts!!!! Keepin it professional at the office!!!



Well seen!!!
the_black_one 9:28 PM - 23 December, 2011
ive had 3 people called me about my 57 on Craigslist in less than an hour
Mighty Dragon Sounds 9:30 PM - 23 December, 2011
I see no SL1, SL2, SL3, or SL4 connected to the turntables or the mixer..... Yet there are turntables connected to the mixer and a laptop.....

If he is using a DVS, chances are he is using a Serato based DVS, in this case SSL.... Only two mixers that we know of come with SSL built in..... the 57 (2 Channel) and the 68 (4 Channel)................. Hmmmmm
sacrilicious 9:46 PM - 23 December, 2011
Fuck, looks like I know where the spare money in my checking account is going.
asthmatic 10:02 PM - 23 December, 2011
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I hope those buttons aren't made out of Jolly Ranchers like the 68 :/

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Mighty Dragon Sounds 10:14 PM - 23 December, 2011
I also hope them buttons aren't those small hard to push buttons of the 57....


If they feel like Dicers...... PERFECT!
ninos 10:33 PM - 23 December, 2011
Im on my phone in iraq i cant see the picture. But wen i get home jan 6th im puttin my 57 for sale. This thing sounds mean
Eric N 10:37 PM - 23 December, 2011
You really aren't missing much. All you can see is a set of turntables (from the back) with a 57ish mixer between them... that has 68ish lit buttons toward the top of the mixer.

LOL @ whoever made the Jolly Rancher reference on the 68. They are kinda like that!
Dj Shamann 10:40 PM - 23 December, 2011
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wen i get home jan 6th im puttin my 57 for sale. This thing sounds mean



LOL not only do we not know what this thing is but you haven't even seen the picture yet!
Culprit 10:42 PM - 23 December, 2011
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wen i get home jan 6th im puttin my 57 for sale. This thing sounds mean


LOL not only do we not know what this thing is but you haven't even seen the picture yet!


True that, come namm we will find out
ninos 10:48 PM - 23 December, 2011
Wen does namm start? Im home on jan 6th. Will i miss the first day anouncment or anythang?
DJ Dub Cowboy 10:56 PM - 23 December, 2011
Jan 18th

and




OH SHIT!!!!!
DJ Dub Cowboy 11:08 PM - 23 December, 2011
that's definitely not a 68 or a 57 and they have some big shit eating grins on their faces
DJ Remy USA 11:10 PM - 23 December, 2011
Tracking I'm waiting for this but I won't be saling my 57. The 707 and the 56 are about to take a hike tho
echa1945mf 12:10 AM - 24 December, 2011
dear Serato..............just tell us what it is already ! i cant sleep here thinking what kind of mixer that is ! LOL
BERTO 12:59 AM - 24 December, 2011
Fuck i missed the link its gone now
Kepik 1:00 AM - 24 December, 2011
the pic is gone! But I did take a look at it! The color buttons seems to be Rane's new modeling following suit of the 68, MP25/26.

Own a 68, but I definitely would grab the next gen 57 model!
DjWoody 1:08 AM - 24 December, 2011
I'm sure it will resurface. ;)
djdannyd 1:16 AM - 24 December, 2011
here you go: s1021.photobucket.com
Discobee 1:17 AM - 24 December, 2011
Due to the fact that the pic is gone, one can only wonder if it is a new Rane mixer that had been accidentally or unintentionally leaked...or was it?? Hmmmmmm......
DJ metaphor 1:58 AM - 24 December, 2011
I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.
djdannyd 2:10 AM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever posted that picture is FIRED.
nik39 2:17 AM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture has been FRIED.

dj_soo 2:21 AM - 24 December, 2011
ffft - any company that doesn't know how to build hype of of whether the photo was accidentally leaked or intentionally isn't worth their salt...

that said, doubtful that would be a fireable offence - taking a direct picture and posting that on the internet say "CHECK YOU THE NEW RANE MIXER!" would be a fireable offence. Whoever took that probably got a "use your head" talk and took the picture down...
pdidy 3:14 AM - 24 December, 2011
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here you go: s1021.photobucket.com

that pic is too tinny to see anything
HandsomeRobDJ 4:12 AM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?
djpuma_gemini 4:23 AM - 24 December, 2011
They totally "left" their new mixer in a bar wrapped in a 57 housing.

Oops I dropped my mixer.
Djkom 5:07 AM - 24 December, 2011
I saved the pic before the link dead but I don't know if I will host it in a website since I don't to be in trouble with Serato/Rane !!
All i want is they will officialize this mixer soon by themselves...

One thing sure is that this photo is kind of embarrassed for Serato but why don't let people tease about that since the photo don't show enought details???
Maybe they closed this link because of the weed tee shirt ...LOL !! It's cool but it's not very professional/serious as a teaser leaked photo...
BERTO 5:09 AM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street
djdannyd 5:11 AM - 24 December, 2011
you don't want to get in trouble with Serato/Rane? What are you, 5? :)
DJ Quartz 5:14 AM - 24 December, 2011
If you use Firefox you will find it if you use about:cache and click on the List cached entries in the Disk Cache Device section.

Do a search for instagram and you will eventually find the pic
djdannyd 5:15 AM - 24 December, 2011
which pic, this one? www.facebook.com
Djkom 5:38 AM - 24 December, 2011
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which pic, this one? www.facebook.com



Yes this is it!!! So I don't have to worry about my "involing" in this leaked case now... LOL

The winter NAMM 2012 looks to be the biggest and the most expected event ever for real/advanced djs (not like this year where we have only seen entry level controllers and softwares)!
-Rane with a new TTM
-Serato with a new Itch version with probably VideoSL
-Denon with a new media player/: SC3900 or SC2900 or S3900...(remeber rebates on s3700 last year)
-Numark with a new replacement controller of the V7 (remenber rebates on V7 last year)
-Pioneer with the current DJM T1 and a futur DJM S1???
-Stanton with the scs 4dj, serato intro native support? A new higher model?
And more...
djdalite 5:46 AM - 24 December, 2011
sob, i hate the value of my equipment diminishing

i was on a roll with my technics tables
the_black_one 6:23 AM - 24 December, 2011
i just sold my 57..... 1100 cash!
DJ Mellow 6:38 AM - 24 December, 2011
hmmm i wonder how much the new mixer is gonna cost..
the_black_one 6:50 AM - 24 December, 2011
1600 easy
DJ Unique 6:59 AM - 24 December, 2011
Looks colorful but cool.
I do want a 3 channel though.
SiRocket 8:31 AM - 24 December, 2011
@black one... damn.... i get them wholesale (authorized and a-stock) for 1050 cash..... lol nice turn around on a used mixer.

and peeps don't forget about itch being deminished and intro "pro" coming out.... think about it, controllers (vci 300 and v7 being discontinued)... (ergo and vci 400) coming out without a software branding (ala itch on the vci 300).... yup, deny all you want on the software "pro" version and 58..... ;)
the_black_one 9:08 AM - 24 December, 2011
yep... some young kid picked it up. Daddys money!!!
ninos 10:24 AM - 24 December, 2011
I cant stop looking at that pic. God damn!
ninos 10:25 AM - 24 December, 2011
I bet the mods are just reading all this laughin hahhaha
nik39 10:54 AM - 24 December, 2011
lol
HandsomeRobDJ 12:02 PM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street

That is one way to look at it. But, I paid (if I remember correctly) $700 for a sound card. Most of the others in here paid over a grand for a specialized 2 channel battle mixer. Those effers should have to wear tuxedos to the office every day at the prices we're paying! I'm not crying about my SL3, I love it. But I paid $700 (or something like that) for it because it is a professional piece of equipment, that I use professionally. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )
ral 1:34 PM - 24 December, 2011
wish they did all the deoxit on the buttons (good for 10 yrs) /no 68 buttons even

and split cue!
echa1945mf 2:00 PM - 24 December, 2011
awww man i just noticed the weed shirt , dear serato,you guys are beyond cool ..... who do i have to kill to get a job there ?
lvmez 2:16 PM - 24 December, 2011
I recently sold my backup 57 for $1000. Tempting to sell the other too.
Jiggy Flipp L.O.T 3:19 PM - 24 December, 2011
So................ If theres an update to the 57 should a new 56 and 3 channel sera to mixer be on the way also??????????????
the SOUNDINSURGENT 3:40 PM - 24 December, 2011
It's gotta be 3 channels or nothing for me............samples need thier own channel.....and the MIDI functions shouldn't be locked to Serato like the 57 (fail).
Maskrider 4:02 PM - 24 December, 2011
I'm saving my Pennies now......lol What to sell........lol
BERTO 6:04 PM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street

That is one way to look at it. But, I paid (if I remember correctly) $700 for a sound card. Most of the others in here paid over a grand for a specialized 2 channel battle mixer. Those effers should have to wear tuxedos to the office every day at the prices we're paying! I'm not crying about my SL3, I love it. But I paid $700 (or something like that) for it because it is a professional piece of equipment, that I use professionally. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )


i agree on the money aspect of it but lets take out the pothead or funny guy wearing the weed shirt and replace him with a software engineer that has no dj/music knowledge and have him designing your interface you wouldnt be too happy would you? would you like people that relate and know the music business aspect of the game or some fucking nerd that knows code? (btw i dont smoke pot) so im not being biased towards pot smokers)
the SOUNDINSURGENT 6:18 PM - 24 December, 2011
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i agree on the money aspect of it but lets take out the pothead or funny guy wearing the weed shirt and replace him with a software engineer that has no dj/music knowledge and have him designing your interface you wouldnt be too happy would you? would you like people that relate and know the music business aspect of the game or some fucking nerd that knows code? (btw i dont smoke pot) so im not being biased towards pot smokers)


At the rate theyve been putting out these buggy releases it kinda makes me wonder...........I mean still no MIDI out for lights and such, no sync on the SP6...........Maybe it really is a guy wearing a suit & tie with djing knowledge. There alot more we could add to that list but it does make me wonder whos calling the shots, doesnt really seem like any djs are involed..........
the SOUNDINSURGENT 6:19 PM - 24 December, 2011
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No DJing Knowledge.......
Nater 6:21 PM - 24 December, 2011
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BERTO 6:24 PM - 24 December, 2011
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i agree on the money aspect of it but lets take out the pothead or funny guy wearing the weed shirt and replace him with a software engineer that has no dj/music knowledge and have him designing your interface you wouldnt be too happy would you? would you like people that relate and know the music business aspect of the game or some fucking nerd that knows code? (btw i dont smoke pot) so im not being biased towards pot smokers)


At the rate theyve been putting out these buggy releases it kinda makes me wonder...........I mean still no MIDI out for lights and such, no sync on the SP6...........Maybe it really is a guy wearing a suit & tie with djing knowledge. There alot more we could add to that list but it does make me wonder whos calling the shots, doesnt really seem like any djs are involed..........

i also +1 midi out request im not being a fanboy but you know serato pulls through for us and yea they have buggy releases but they try and work something out most of the time. Also they are releasing intro and itch stuff too bc they are a business not just a serato scratchlive company, i say use the stable version you are comfortable with and wait for a bomb proof release in the future, and Serato +1 midi out
SiRocket 8:09 PM - 24 December, 2011
people keep forgetting that rane is part of the SSL deal... and itch (soon to be gone) and intro / pro software is more on serato's "free reign"....
DJ Dub Cowboy 8:27 PM - 24 December, 2011
Itch ain't going anywhere.
SiRocket 8:31 PM - 24 December, 2011
you know what i mean dub ;)
dj_soo 11:03 PM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street

That is one way to look at it. But, I paid (if I remember correctly) $700 for a sound card. Most of the others in here paid over a grand for a specialized 2 channel battle mixer. Those effers should have to wear tuxedos to the office every day at the prices we're paying! I'm not crying about my SL3, I love it. But I paid $700 (or something like that) for it because it is a professional piece of equipment, that I use professionally. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )


really? have you ever worked or even set foot in a software company?
echa1945mf 11:07 PM - 24 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street

That is one way to look at it. But, I paid (if I remember correctly) $700 for a sound card. Most of the others in here paid over a grand for a specialized 2 channel battle mixer. Those effers should have to wear tuxedos to the office every day at the prices we're paying! I'm not crying about my SL3, I love it. But I paid $700 (or something like that) for it because it is a professional piece of equipment, that I use professionally. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )


really? have you ever worked or even set foot in a software company?


LMAO ! im with you soo,whats wrong with this dude,its just weed its not crack,Serato peeps can walk around in tight pink bodysuit smoking dead people ashes in the office ,they do makes excelllent product LMAO!!
ninos 11:13 PM - 24 December, 2011
Weed is good. God put weed on the earth for me, and you! Take advantage man! (smokey from friday voice)
spirez 11:19 PM - 24 December, 2011
Two channels = not for me.

As someone else said, it's so much better having a dedicated third channel for samples. Since I got the UDG creator I've been taking my Empath to gigs now. That and an SL3 is an awesome and super flexible setup.

Just need to decide on a solid controller route now. The dicers are staying but I'm thinking I may invest in an X1 unless something better comes along at NAMM
Djkom 11:32 PM - 24 December, 2011
What is the mixer under the 68 in this photo:

instagr.am

BUZZZ AGAIN ???!!!
echa1945mf 11:38 PM - 24 December, 2011
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What is the mixer under the 68 in this photo:

instagr.am

BUZZZ AGAIN ???!!!


seriously ! those bastards ! stop teasing us and just tell us what the hell that is LMAO!!
djdalite 1:08 AM - 25 December, 2011
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What is the mixer under the 68 in this photo:

instagr.am

BUZZZ AGAIN ???!!!

i have blue balls from all this teasing
nik39 1:44 AM - 25 December, 2011
Guys.. Nick is really a cool dude. I don't know whether he is a regular pot guy but honestly i don't care as long as he is making his job well. And that's what he is doing. Have you checked out his latest sl demo video?
When was thread last time you saw a project manager kick ass and decks like this?? Usually these guys wear suits and don't know shit about djing.
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street

That is one way to look at it. But, I paid (if I remember correctly) $700 for a sound card. Most of the others in here paid over a grand for a specialized 2 channel battle mixer. Those effers should have to wear tuxedos to the office every day at the prices we're paying! I'm not crying about my SL3, I love it. But I paid $700 (or something like that) for it because it is a professional piece of equipment, that I use professionally. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )


i agree on the money aspect of it but lets take out the pothead or funny guy wearing the weed shirt and replace him with a software engineer that has no dj/music knowledge and have him designing your interface you wouldnt be too happy would you? would you like people that relate and know the music business aspect of the game or some fucking nerd that knows code? (btw i dont smoke pot) so im not being biased towards pot smokers)
Henry GQ 1:48 AM - 25 December, 2011
if its 2 channel rane 68. im putting my shit(68) on ebay lol

all i want is 2 channels with the cue buttons and loops rolls. no efx... please.
Dj Shamann 2:01 AM - 25 December, 2011
LOL @ giving a shit about what's on dude's shirt. I'm not hangin' out at 4:20 but smoke it if you got it.
djdalite 3:44 AM - 25 December, 2011
legalize it
skinnyguy 3:52 AM - 25 December, 2011
it's not a 58! it's a 67!

because it's BELOW the 68 in the pic.

=P
blnkdagr 4:10 AM - 25 December, 2011
hyperlink doesn't work.

"Sorry, this page cannot be found"
DJ Sparky Killabrew 4:44 AM - 25 December, 2011
. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )

he does look like dude from half baked
Djkom 11:29 AM - 25 December, 2011
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What is the mixer under the 68 in this photo:

instagr.am

BUZZZ AGAIN ???!!!


This link still works
Djkom 5:02 PM - 25 December, 2011
Now Pioneer DJM S1 !!!!!!!!!!

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Mighty Dragon Sounds 5:15 PM - 25 December, 2011
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Now Pioneer DJM S1 !!!!!!!!!!

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No way......
Djkom 5:20 PM - 25 December, 2011
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Now Pioneer DJM S1 !!!!!!!!!!

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No way......


LOL...I Know, it's a fake (I've done that with photoshop) but I would love to see this kind of mixer from Pioneer or Rane!
Panotaker 5:28 PM - 25 December, 2011
Forget the mixer, what kind of drum set is that?
DJPETERMCFRAY 7:37 PM - 25 December, 2011
Alesis electronic I believe, with Surge cymbals. Killer kit and pretty inexpensive for an electronic set up.
Henry GQ 12:32 AM - 26 December, 2011
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Now Pioneer DJM S1 !!!!!!!!!!

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No way......


LOL...I Know, it's a fake (I've done that with photoshop) but I would love to see this kind of mixer from Pioneer or Rane!


still very awesome! i like where u put alot of it!!! very cool. wish they companies would grab like 10 different djs form 10 different regions and professions of djing.
Henry GQ 12:32 AM - 26 December, 2011
i think u spelled shuttle wrong. u spelled it shutle?
Djkom 1:07 AM - 26 December, 2011
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i think u spelled shuttle wrong. u spelled it shutle?


Oh damn u're right! I've made a mistake!!

Anyway, everybody knows that is a just a concept, so we can consider it as an extra proof of fakeness LOL
Henry GQ 7:25 AM - 26 December, 2011
haha true. but still a very dope idea!!!!
DJ'Que 7:47 AM - 26 December, 2011
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What is the mixer under the 68 in this photo:

instagr.am

BUZZZ AGAIN ???!!!
just another 68
Culprit 10:04 AM - 26 December, 2011
very dope concept
Djkom 1:06 PM - 26 December, 2011
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What is the mixer under the 68 in this photo:

instagr.am

BUZZZ AGAIN ???!!!
just another 68


Nope! Just look at the front side panel and the buttons on the right...it's clearly not the 68!
BattleFunk 2:08 PM - 26 December, 2011
Front-side panel?

either or?
HandsomeRobDJ 2:39 PM - 26 December, 2011
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I'm sure whoever took that picture is FIRED.

I'm gonna have to reference the weed shirt again and say the weed shirt makes me think no one got fired. How serious can things be in an office where you can wear your pot-promoting gear?

You're taking it too serious bro it a music software company not a stock broker party in wall street

That is one way to look at it. But, I paid (if I remember correctly) $700 for a sound card. Most of the others in here paid over a grand for a specialized 2 channel battle mixer. Those effers should have to wear tuxedos to the office every day at the prices we're paying! I'm not crying about my SL3, I love it. But I paid $700 (or something like that) for it because it is a professional piece of equipment, that I use professionally. I just don't want to think that I bought a $700 sound card from one of the characters on Half Baked! : )


really? have you ever worked or even set foot in a software company?


HAHAHA That's what I do during banker's hours and then DJ on nights and weekends : )
Djkom 2:46 PM - 26 December, 2011
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Front-side panel?

either or?


-> the front panel where there is the headphone input ...

I'm french so sorry if I don't use the right words...
BattleFunk 3:17 PM - 26 December, 2011
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Front-side panel?

either or?


-> the front panel where there is the headphone input ...

I'm french so sorry if I don't use the right words...


Ha! all good ;)
Henry GQ 8:28 PM - 26 December, 2011
it looks as big as the 68..
Dj Ace 7:13 AM - 27 December, 2011
the 57 is a 10 inch mixer and the 68 is a 12 inch mixer hard to eyeball...in that pic! ;)
Henry GQ 1:02 AM - 28 December, 2011
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the 57 is a 10 inch mixer and the 68 is a 12 inch mixer hard to eyeball...in that pic! ;)


gotcha
Trinicapone 3:15 AM - 28 December, 2011
This ish is hot TTM 57 I'm sorry is history!
Djkom 2:01 PM - 31 December, 2011
2012 coming soon ...

My top first priority/wish for this year: Be one of the first owners of the new TTM mixer !!!!!!

LOLLLLLLLLL
BattleFunk 2:04 PM - 31 December, 2011
After the 57, I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation before being the guinea pig again
ninos 2:28 PM - 31 December, 2011
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After the 57, I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation before being the guinea pig again


Thats fair.
nik39 2:49 PM - 31 December, 2011
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After the 57, I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation before being the guinea pig again

If you want to wait three years - that's fine. :)
serkan 3:17 PM - 31 December, 2011
Damn!
I have the Denon DN-X1600 and realized I don't need 4 channels.
But I would have to have at least 3 of them to get enough money out of Ebay for that new mixer ;)
Need to find something to sell... who needs a finger, or two?! :D
Djkom 3:36 PM - 31 December, 2011
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Damn!
I have the Denon DN-X1600 and realized I don't need 4 channels.
But I would have to have at least 3 of them to get enough money out of Ebay for that new mixer ;)
Need to find something to sell... who needs a finger, or two?! :D


How much for your arm? LOL
serkan 4:25 PM - 31 December, 2011
I was going to write arm but thought I couldn't DJ with only one arm :)
DJ Eighty 8 4:34 PM - 31 December, 2011
My wife has my balls in a jar on her night stand, I'll see if she gives them back to me so I can sell them for the new Rane mixer......
Rebelguy 4:38 PM - 31 December, 2011
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After the 57, I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation before being the guinea pig again


Why? The first gen 57 was better then the 2nd.
Rebelguy 4:41 PM - 31 December, 2011
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Damn!
I have the Denon DN-X1600 and realized I don't need 4 channels.
But I would have to have at least 3 of them to get enough money out of Ebay for that new mixer ;)
Need to find something to sell... who needs a finger, or two?! :D


The 1600 is pretty solid for the money. I have had two 57s and the only thing I miss is the convenience of the easy setup.
BattleFunk 4:52 PM - 31 December, 2011
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After the 57, I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation before being the guinea pig again


Why? The first gen 57 was better then the 2nd.


Yea, I cant grumble too much about my first gen - I just remember silly little modifications that should have been thought about before it went in to production. Like the -15db attenuation on the channel gains that were swiftly changed to kills. And the buttons have been changed a few times now as well

Still happy with the 57, theres nothing I need that would make me buy something else now, its been a great workhorse.
DJ Eighty 8 5:23 PM - 31 December, 2011
It's very easy to "Monday morning Quaterback" after the fact, but the 57 first came out that mixer was tight to def. Sholud they get it right at this point and time with the new mixer.....YES! To say the 57 is weak or now some way garbage is not fair, it was the prototype and the best and first at that time.
BattleFunk 6:07 PM - 31 December, 2011
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It's very easy to "Monday morning Quaterback" after the fact, but the 57 first came out that mixer was tight to def. Sholud they get it right at this point and time with the new mixer.....YES! To say the 57 is weak or now some way garbage is not fair, it was the prototype and the best and first at that time.


What is a "Monday morning Quarterback"?

Did you type that because you couldn't spell hindsight?

When it came out it had some issues that people didn't like or there wouldn't have been modifications to the initial design. Lets not get forget the "mixtape DJs dream" nightmare either.

Also, who said the 57 was weak? Or garbage? Did you read any of this thread before you posted? You sound like a fanboi being defensive just for the sake of it
lvmez 6:59 PM - 31 December, 2011
I've been using my first generation 57 since the first week it came out. Not one problem.
SiRocket 7:42 PM - 31 December, 2011
hopefully the buttons aren't shitty like the 57..... "oh you can just take your mixer apart and deoxit"..... thats like saying i should take the leaking taillights out of my car and shake the water out of them every so often because ford made shitty seals... #smh
Djkom 12:31 AM - 1 January, 2012
Happy year my french dj!!!
DJ Eighty 8 1:01 AM - 1 January, 2012
Yo BattleFunk stop the "Bitchassness" it wasn't directed at you, it was a general statement. Just because a statement follows yours doesn't mean it's directed towards a previous comment that you made. "Monday morning Quaterback": Every football fan can tell you what should've been done during Sunday's game and they have ALL the answers after the fact. I'll just use hindsight to "dumb" it down for you the next time............
djpuma_gemini 6:44 AM - 1 January, 2012
If it is a new rane mixer, what we all should do is save our money now, so when it drops you can tell the wifey's that you've saved for this and it's like free money.

Hell save for one month or a week ,or 10, you can tell them you've saved since jan of 2010, cause you heard there is a new mixer coming and yours is really old.
Sunny Up 7:47 AM - 1 January, 2012
Well if this is the case, I'm just going to wait till it gets announced so ttm57s can flood craigslist. Suh-weet.
Nicky Blunt 9:48 AM - 1 January, 2012
carefull with that, I was advised not to use a 57 with a laptop that has any of the i generation chipsets!so it makes sense that a new serato based mixer will be on the market soon.
ral 10:07 AM - 1 January, 2012
just use the 57 with a dual core processor - case closed

oh yeah, i got the 1st gen -
Nicky Blunt 10:13 AM - 1 January, 2012
yah i hear u, but frankly who wants to downgrade their laptop to use a mixer? I know I don't a new mixer with newer chipsets would be a way better business decision.
DJ Dub Cowboy 10:23 AM - 1 January, 2012
That i7 issue is fixed on the Mac with an OSX update. Just dont use 10.6.6
Dj Ace 12:01 PM - 1 January, 2012
Yup works fine now with an "I" processor
DJ Remy USA 5:20 PM - 1 January, 2012
I been using my new Mac with a i5 no problems with my 57
djpuma_gemini 6:37 PM - 1 January, 2012
I use my 57 with a 2010 and 2011 macbook pro and have no 57 issues.
The Return of Dj Sparky 8:05 PM - 1 January, 2012
well rumor has it that the rane/serato partnership is just at the end of its contract so if a new mixer is not released at NAMM i think the partnership will be over and i think we'll be seeing the pioneer djm-s1 releasing very soon, or a collab with another big name partner like allen & heath,
the SOUNDINSURGENT 8:26 PM - 1 January, 2012
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well rumor has it that the rane/serato partnership is just at the end of its contract so if a new mixer is not released at NAMM i think the partnership will be over and i think we'll be seeing the pioneer djm-s1 releasing very soon, or a collab with another big name partner like allen & heath,


Hopefully then RANE will unlock the MIDI functions of the 57 so I can use it with something else...........
sacrilicious 8:32 PM - 1 January, 2012
Rane employees have said it's not MIDI capable--it's not locked but rather it doesn't work that way.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 8:38 PM - 1 January, 2012
Ive seen it work with other programs but since Im no programmer Im not even gonna try to go through all that had to be done. Im sure with a firmware update it could made to used with other programs.
WarpNote 8:48 PM - 1 January, 2012
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Ive seen it work with other programs but since Im no programmer Im not even gonna try to go through all that had to be done. Im sure with a firmware update it could made to used with other programs.

What programs?
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed "to death" before...
There is no midi on the 57.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 9:01 PM - 1 January, 2012
Traktor & VDJ, the videos are private but it was sending messages from all the buttons and faders......
WarpNote 9:06 PM - 1 January, 2012
Hit me up on PM Insurgent, thanks!
nik39 9:11 PM - 1 January, 2012
Shenigans.
djdannyd 9:14 PM - 1 January, 2012
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Shenigans.

+1
WarpNote 9:59 PM - 1 January, 2012
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Shenigans.

Hehe. Well, the 68 supports MIDI, comes in real handy when working with applications like VDMX. > www.vidvox.net
Nicky Blunt 2:40 AM - 2 January, 2012
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That i7 issue is fixed on the Mac with an OSX update. Just dont use 10.6.6


Not everyone uses a mac, outside of the usa mac prices are so rediculous that they are pretty much unjustifiable!
Nicky Blunt 2:41 AM - 2 January, 2012
plus its the entire I range not just the i7 my i5 just refuses to work with an sl1
nik39 9:35 AM - 2 January, 2012
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Shenigans.

Hehe. Well, the 68 supports MIDI, comes in real handy when working with applications like VDMX. > www.vidvox.net

I can totally understand why you want midi on the mixers. I doubt that vdj can totally"switch" the mixer into midi or read the mixer's midi signal. Because there is no midi signal.
WarpNote 9:54 AM - 2 January, 2012
Hi nik, Happy New Year!
Yeah, I know there's no midi from the 57, I just wrote so above, remember? :-D
However, there are some sort of control signals going through that USB bus.
I don't own the 57 myself, but doesn't it work with ME?

Theoretically I guess it would be possible to implement some sort of conversion from the Rane/Serato proprietary protocol to MIDI. Just like OSC/MIDI ?

However, I'm guessing the chances they will release something like that for the 57 to be quite slim, as it would make more sense dropping an updated/new mixer to boost sales?

Also nik, check your PM ;-)
nik39 10:53 AM - 2 January, 2012
Hey Warp,

happy new year to you too! :)

I was not precise when I wrote the post (it's hard to take care about formatting and all that stuff when you answer from a mobile device).

This was directed to you:
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I can totally understand why you want midi on the mixers.

Because I think you don't need a justification for asking for Midi support.

This was direct to surgent:
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I doubt that vdj can totally"switch" the mixer into midi or read the mixer's midi signal. Because there is no midi signal.


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However, there are some sort of control signals going through that USB bus.
I don't own the 57 myself, but doesn't it work with ME?

Of course the signal has to be transported somehow ;) There must be a way to get hold of the transmitted signals, but I doubt that VDJ did this.
Hint: ME can't read the signal of the mixer if SL is not running.

PM... where?
WarpNote 11:17 AM - 2 January, 2012
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(it's hard to take care about formatting and all that stuff when you answer from a mobile device).
Sure, tell me about it...

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PM... where?

Sorry, forgot to hit the send button, DOH... PM sent now..
D-Twizzle 7:26 PM - 2 January, 2012
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After the 57, I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation before being the guinea pig again

I think it only took 1 or 2 firmware updates along with ssl updates, but it was pretty solid in less than 6 months.
Nicky Blunt 9:52 PM - 2 January, 2012
Wonder if it will work with the i processor chips?
phatbob 10:46 PM - 2 January, 2012
The problem with i series processors is USB1 related, isn't it?

Rane would have to be smoking some serious crack to release a USB1 mixer in 2012!

All the Rane interfaces are USB2 now. Fear not.
BERTO 12:28 AM - 3 January, 2012
curious if the dreaded 68 cue buttons will be included in the new release mixer ..............
AKIEM 12:36 AM - 3 January, 2012
curious whats wrong with the 68 buttons?
and assuming they are going to be on these new mixers
Joee 12:53 AM - 3 January, 2012
the pic looks like, all it is, is a ttm 57 with the 68 style buttons and sl3/usb2.0 built in
Nicky Blunt 12:57 AM - 3 January, 2012
sl3? I only see 2 channels
Joee 1:04 AM - 3 January, 2012
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sl3? I only see 2 channels

you know what i mean..lol, i mean the new serato box hardware/usb 2.0, sl2
Nicky Blunt 1:07 AM - 3 January, 2012
After posting that, I did think that if they did put an sl3 in there you culd have a seperate channel for the sp6 which would be nice!
Dj Ace 2:04 AM - 3 January, 2012
With the 68, I have my sp6 and bridge audio on channel 3 and 4. I get to use built in, External, and ssl effects on any channel simultaneously, yeah love my 68! It only two inches wider than a 57 but seems bigger don't believe the negative hype, the 68 is an awesome mixer!
Niro 2:06 AM - 3 January, 2012
^^^ I have to agree.
Joee 2:11 AM - 3 January, 2012
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After posting that, I did think that if they did put an sl3 in there you culd have a seperate channel for the sp6 which would be nice!

i don't think it will happen, but maybe we'll get lucky, they'll will release a new ttm mixer with built in sl2 & a new empath mixer with sl3, you think that's to much to ask for?........lol
djdannyd 2:13 AM - 3 January, 2012
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With the 68, I have my sp6 and bridge audio on channel 3 and 4. I get to use built in, External, and ssl effects on any channel simultaneously, yeah love my 68! It only two inches wider than a 57 but seems bigger don't believe the negative hype, the 68 is an awesome mixer!

Amen! I don't own a 68 but have used it regularly as of late since my brother in law just got his about 2 months ago. That thing is awesome! Can't wait till NAMM 2012! Go Rane! :D
WarpNote 3:35 AM - 3 January, 2012
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...don't believe the negative hype, the 68 is an awesome mixer!

+ 1
I love my 68!!
dj_soo 3:41 AM - 3 January, 2012
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After posting that, I did think that if they did put an sl3 in there you culd have a seperate channel for the sp6 which would be nice!

i don't think it will happen, but maybe we'll get lucky, they'll will release a new ttm mixer with built in sl2 & a new empath mixer with sl3, you think that's to much to ask for?........lol


the aux channel should be accessible by the software as opposed to the 57 - this was a big complaint but the 57 was designed before the sp6 was in the software...

it may not be EQ-able, but it should function as a 3rd channel to be accessed by the SP6 or the Bridge...
dj_soo 4:09 AM - 3 January, 2012
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curious whats wrong with the 68 buttons?
and assuming they are going to be on these new mixers


they don't feel very good - very stiff and it seems sometimes you need to hammer them to get em to work - granted i've never used a 68 - just played with one at the store...

best thing would be buttons like the Dicers or an MPC or something...
ral 5:32 AM - 3 January, 2012
+1 mpc cue buttons

+1 3rd channel vol in the aux
DJ Dub Cowboy 5:38 AM - 3 January, 2012
just over 2 weeks to go.

I'm hoping there is a new 2 or 3 channel mixer with
2 USB ports.
aux software channel
soft controls for cues and loops
controls for DJ-FX or built in effects
midi capable
cup holder
& for
less than 2 grand
skinnyguy 5:40 AM - 3 January, 2012
cup holder!!!!!!!!!! woooOOOOOoo!!!
Henry GQ 5:42 AM - 3 January, 2012
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just over 2 weeks to go.

I'm hoping there is a new 2 or 3 channel mixer with
2 USB ports.
aux software channel
soft controls for cues and loops
controls for DJ-FX or built in effects
midi capable
cup holder
& for
less than 2 grand


agreed!
AKIEM 6:21 AM - 3 January, 2012
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After posting that, I did think that if they did put an sl3 in there you culd have a seperate channel for the sp6 which would be nice!


this what I hopes for


I actually like hard buttons over soft for shit that dont need to be pressure sensitive...
DJ Dub Cowboy 6:47 AM - 3 January, 2012
if this new mixer doesn't have a cup holder, I'm switching to whaktor!!!!
djpuma_gemini 7:26 AM - 3 January, 2012
hopefully it has a "crush it" button.
dj_soo 9:22 AM - 3 January, 2012
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After posting that, I did think that if they did put an sl3 in there you culd have a seperate channel for the sp6 which would be nice!


this what I hopes for


I actually like hard buttons over soft for shit that dont need to be pressure sensitive...


even feeling like the 57 buttons would be a major step up from what the 68 buttons feel like...
DJMark 9:46 AM - 3 January, 2012
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well rumor has it that the rane/serato partnership is just at the end of its contract


I find this difficult to believe, and I hope it's not true.

More than enough said.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 5:47 PM - 3 January, 2012
Whatever they release it has to be atleast 3channels so the samples can have a dedicated channel...........
DJ Remy USA 6:20 PM - 3 January, 2012
You hear that serato let rane know we want a 3 channel mixer.....

Empath SL....I think even 68 owners would buy one I know I would.
DJ Dub Cowboy 6:30 PM - 3 January, 2012
maybe we'll see a SIXTY-THREE...?
nik39 6:40 PM - 3 January, 2012
SP-6ty.
nik39 6:40 PM - 3 January, 2012
SixtySP-6
bicedidit 6:52 PM - 3 January, 2012
Whats the big deal with the empath? is ij just b/c its a 3 channel 10 incher?
djpuma_gemini 6:57 PM - 3 January, 2012
68 - 57 = 9 *12 (for 2012) = 108

108 /2 = 54
54+9 = 63
Rane TTM63
Dj Bacik 6:59 PM - 3 January, 2012
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68 - 57 = 9 *12 (for 2012) = 108

108 /2 = 54
54+9 = 63
Rane TTM63


Now thats some math.
DJ Unique 8:09 PM - 3 January, 2012
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Whatever they release it has to be atleast 3channels so the samples can have a dedicated channel...........

Yes.... and dual mike inputs, split cue & not cost more than the 57SL.
Mighty Dragon Sounds 9:54 PM - 3 January, 2012
I want it to shoot lasers at different vibrating pulses that hypnotize people. And then have a secret compartment that can be used to stash cash, or a gun. And then I want it to have GPS so that if someone steals it I can locate it..... Oh Oh Oh and a self destruct button incase someone steals it and they are already too far for me to retrieve it. I can self destruct it and cause a huge explosion.

It also should have a warp core as its power source. Fusing Mater and Anti Matter using some sort of Flux Capacitor with slip stream capability with warp factor 8!!!!
skinnyguy 9:57 PM - 3 January, 2012
psssh....warp factor 9 ftw.
Mighty Dragon Sounds 10:06 PM - 3 January, 2012
smh...... Firing Photon Torpedoes while cloaked FTMFW!!!!!!
phatbob 10:08 PM - 3 January, 2012
Someone in another thread said it's got a 4-in 4-out interface, seemed like he knew what he was talking about.
Joee 10:10 PM - 3 January, 2012
it better have captain kirk beam down to the gig a dj for us, "beam me down scotty the club can't handle me"
The Return of Dj Sparky 10:18 PM - 3 January, 2012
stick to the dj'in guys, comedy isn't your forte
Joee 10:21 PM - 3 January, 2012
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stick to the dj'in guys, comedy isn't your forte

i'm dead serious!!!!!!!
Mighty Dragon Sounds 3:18 AM - 4 January, 2012
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stick to the dj'in guys, comedy isn't your forte


FIRING PHOTON TORPEDOES!!!!!!!!
bicedidit 11:23 PM - 4 January, 2012
What's split.cue?
Joee 11:25 PM - 4 January, 2012
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What's split.cue?

the cue fader get's split in half by a photon torpedo!
Daktyl 11:27 PM - 4 January, 2012
so are they debuting this thing at NAMM or the next star trek convention?
The Return of Dj Sparky 11:31 PM - 4 January, 2012
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so are they debuting this thing at NAMM or the next star trek convention?


that gave me a good laugh
Mighty Dragon Sounds 2:48 AM - 5 January, 2012
The new TTM is going to assimilate all the other mixers and software into the Serato collective..... Resistance is Futile!!!!!!!!!
BattleFunk 3:14 AM - 5 January, 2012
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so are they debuting this thing at NAMM or the next star trek convention?


lol
DJ Remy USA 4:39 AM - 5 January, 2012
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The new TTM is going to assimilate all the other mixers and software into the Serato collective..... Resistance is Futile!!!!!!!!!


I hope so but dont be surpised if they dont announce anything at NAMM, hey VIC PM me btw
djtirbal 4:46 AM - 5 January, 2012
Anyone how I can get a ticket to NAMM ? my bday is on jan 16th and i woulove to go for the first time ?
djvtyme85 7:23 AM - 5 January, 2012
I missed the pic can someone repost it
Djkom 7:59 AM - 5 January, 2012
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I missed the pic can someone repost it


imageshack.us

Enjoy ;)
DJ Dub Cowboy 8:27 AM - 5 January, 2012
That's the in-house Serato band. I hope they are performing at NAMM!
WarpNote 9:41 AM - 5 January, 2012
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What's split.cue?

Berlin Wall, North & South Korea...
Seriously, pgm in left headphones ear, master in right.
The 57 doesn't have it, but the 68 does, so I'd expect any new SSL mixer to have...
AKIEM 10:46 AM - 5 January, 2012
They better...
WarpNote 10:58 AM - 5 January, 2012
I don't really care, never use it on my 68, never did on the 56 or any of the denon/vestax either, but for the ones depending on it, its a big deal...
Evon 11:17 AM - 5 January, 2012
I find the split que handy at times. Sometimes there are no booth speakers, then I split the que.
AKIEM 12:25 PM - 5 January, 2012
I havnt had a split cue since my Realistic - missed it everyday.
Need to be quet in an apartment.
Shit sound or a slight delay in the monitors.
Save your ears.
Can't wait!
Djkom 2:16 PM - 5 January, 2012
Why split cue should be better than the rotary button which goes from full cue mode to full master mode and mixing them in the middle ???
WarpNote 2:20 PM - 5 January, 2012
That's what I use...
bicedidit 4:09 PM - 5 January, 2012
ive never used split cue before and dont think id have much of a need for it.

thanx for the 'splanation.
the_black_one 6:01 PM - 5 January, 2012
After 18 years of djing I need split cue to save my hearing
HYDRO MATIC 6:04 PM - 5 January, 2012
i hate split cue...always have...I use the fader option and master mix button if need be...cant wrap my head around how to properly use the split thing...drives me nuts!
Niro 6:06 PM - 5 January, 2012
I prefer the way the 57 cue is currently and I mix with in-ears only. It's actually better, because you can judge the levels perfectly in Stereo. Also if you get use to split cue and have to play on a mixer without it, your kinda screwed.
ral 6:16 PM - 5 January, 2012
so, i was in guitar center the other day - eavesdropping to a shure rep talking to the gc manager in 2 weeks (announcement/and or relese), new stuff from rane and chauvet etc - kinna confused though how shure rep cares/knows about other products???? industry link?
BattleFunk 6:27 PM - 5 January, 2012
We're not the only people allowed on the internet?
canicypher 10:44 PM - 5 January, 2012
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i hate split cue...always have...I use the fader option and master mix button if need be...cant wrap my head around how to properly use the split thing...drives me nuts!

word, me 2...always preferred the crossfader type cue systems...guess its just personal preference but i've always disliked split cue...so much so that it could be the deciding factor in purchasing one mixer over another..
nik39 10:55 PM - 5 January, 2012
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i hate split cue...always have...I use the fader option and master mix button if need be...cant wrap my head around how to properly use the split thing...drives me nuts!

word, me 2...always preferred the crossfader type cue systems...guess its just personal preference but i've always disliked split cue...so much so that it could be the deciding factor in purchasing one mixer over another..

Same here.

The cueing system on the 68 for example is not very handy. It takes to long to switch between cueing a channel and cueing the master. Or from one channel to the other.

I have already suggested to have a dual-mode cueing system:
press "shift/layer" and "split cue" button, and then it will switch to a different mode where you can switch between cueing a single channel and cueing the master *without* having to turn this damn master/cue knob aaaaallll the way from one side to the other. It makes mixing less efficient.
DJ Dub Cowboy 11:24 PM - 5 January, 2012
^^ that is actually one of the reasons why I waited on the 68 (the big reason was the damn hard buttons)

I have been using the cueing system style that is on the 57 for a decade and it is so quick. I like your suggestion about the 68 cueing system Nik. I hope that gets implemented.
citi 11:31 PM - 5 January, 2012
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I prefer the way the 57 cue is currently and I mix with in-ears only. It's actually better, because you can judge the levels perfectly in Stereo. Also if you get use to split cue and have to play on a mixer without it, your kinda screwed.


Nah, using spilt cue is like using one headphone on, one headphone off. I don't see how another mixer with or without it can hurt you as a DJ. I find that the dedicated cue/master of the 57 annoying. Plus, if you are rocking with an MC, you can't hear him half the time.
Niro 12:00 AM - 6 January, 2012
I don't use one ear on one off. I switched to both full on because it saves my hearing and also is way easier to mix all the songs at the same level. Also mixes are way more on point. Yes the current way the 68 cues is not as efficient as the 57.
djpuma_gemini 12:01 AM - 6 January, 2012
I have never used split cue, but I've wanted to when there are no monitors.

I do change the phones to master and listen that way at times.
I do wish the 57 had split cue to hear both songs in different ears, but it's not a deal breaker.
djpuma_gemini 12:04 AM - 6 January, 2012
aaah just realized why I want it.
The master out is great, but I can't hear both tracks while cueing up the next track, unless I move the phones fader to the middle, but those levels aren't the actual levels so you can't adjust the levels to those (maybe if you have the channel fader up all the way possibly)
canicypher 2:28 AM - 6 January, 2012
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aaah just realized why I want it.
The master out is great, but I can't hear both tracks while cueing up the next track, unless I move the phones fader to the middle, but those levels aren't the actual levels so you can't adjust the levels to those (maybe if you have the channel fader up all the way possibly)


The cue fader in the middle will accurately reflect the level/gain and eq of the incoming and currently playing tracks...Then again i always play with channel faders all the way up and use gains/main to increase level..but it is def reflected in the headphones
caliguy 7:32 AM - 6 January, 2012
Am I the only one that thinks that this may actually be a 3 Chanel or what looks like possibly a 3 upfader 10 inch mixer. Maybe even an Empath-SL?

I love my Empath and would love to see an Empath-SL.
djsmuve415 8:07 AM - 6 January, 2012
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I have never used split cue, but I've wanted to when there are no monitors.
I do change the phones to master and listen that way at times.
I do wish the 57 had split cue to hear both songs in different ears, but it's not a deal breaker.


I have an older Vestax PMC-15 MKII I still use here from time to time, & it has IMO, still one of best Split Cue features out of any mixer I've ever spun on.. I think this one would even convert the hardest of the nay-sayers on here. came in handy numerous times back in the days in an apt. at night.
caliguy 8:21 AM - 6 January, 2012
Thats one of the great features of the Rane Empath: Split Cue, and Cue Monitor, and Cue A - B lever simultaneously.

I so hope this is a 3 channel Rane Empath-SL with full MIDI mapability.
djsmuve415 8:30 AM - 6 January, 2012
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Thats one of the great features of the Rane Empath: Split Cue, and Cue Monitor, and Cue A - B lever simultaneously.

^This... I think this is the only other mixer that comes close to my old Vestax..
Damn Empath split cue saved my ass about 5 years back when a monitor I was using in a hot packed club decided to shut down on me.. don't care what anyone says - a proper split cue is invaluable, cuz u never know when that shit might happen & u need it.
Johbremat 9:18 AM - 6 January, 2012
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I love my Empath and would love to see an Empath-SL.


So would I. If it's an Empath with the 57's sensibilities.

68 gives me a headache.

Owning an Empath and Empath Rotary, I keep praying (uselessly, no doubt) that Rane would develop an isolator that plugs in to the back of the Empath - between the mixers in & outs and the plugs - and a sleeve that provides MIDI functionality that's sit on the left or right of the mixer.

Sure it go from 10in to 12in, but not fussed. I'm sure they'd be capable.
Evon 11:48 AM - 6 January, 2012
regardless if your using split que or not, I would expect a mixer from rane to have it implemented.
Chrisjin 1:48 PM - 6 January, 2012
Damn missed the link. Pot is good, alcohol bad
citi 5:03 PM - 6 January, 2012
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I don't use one ear on one off. I switched to both full on because it saves my hearing and also is way easier to mix all the songs at the same level. Also mixes are way more on point. Yes the current way the 68 cues is not as efficient as the 57.


That's what I'm saying. It simulates using the one ear one off method without destroying your ears. It's (usually) the best of both worlds. I rock in ear monitors so I'm right there with you. I have not used the split cue on the 68 yet, but what makes it so bad? I would assume that you would keep split cue on the whole time. Why would you need to switch back and forth?
LilSwann 5:03 PM - 6 January, 2012
I actually just used the 57 for the first time on New Years Eve and loved it!!! I didn't touch any of the mixer effects (I was doing a live and direct for the radio didn't want to be messing around with stuff and mess up live lol) I've been so used to using the Denon 1500 with the separate cue buttons on a 4 channel mixer it took a little getting used to the fader cue but once I did I loved it!!! It was so quick to switch cues between the two turntables and now I'm interested to see what they do with this new mixer because after using it for a gig I want a 57 now!
Rane
TrevorW 5:05 PM - 6 January, 2012
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I want it to shoot lasers at different vibrating pulses that hypnotize people. And then have a secret compartment that can be used to stash cash, or a gun. And then I want it to have GPS so that if someone steals it I can locate it..... Oh Oh Oh and a self destruct button incase someone steals it and they are already too far for me to retrieve it. I can self destruct it and cause a huge explosion.

It also should have a warp core as its power source. Fusing Mater and Anti Matter using some sort of Flux Capacitor with slip stream capability with warp factor 8!!!!


Future product feature request(s) logged.
LilSwann 5:11 PM - 6 January, 2012
Oh and not to mention I didn't realize how clean that mixer was with the EQs flat never actually using a 57 before now I truly understand why anybody who had one loves it.
Niro 7:01 PM - 6 January, 2012
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That's what I'm saying. It simulates using the one ear one off method without destroying your ears. It's (usually) the best of both worlds. I rock in ear monitors so I'm right there with you. I have not used the split cue on the 68 yet, but what makes it so bad? I would assume that you would keep split cue on the whole time. Why would you need to switch back and forth?


I switch back and forth from house to cue, not from split to house.
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:10 PM - 6 January, 2012
well if the namm site is anything to go by I think we can expect a something new,
12:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
3:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
5:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
www.namm.org

then friday
11:00am DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
1:00pm Z Trip Lets It Rip!
3:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
5:00pm Faust & Shortee - Come See What's New!!!
www.namm.org
so lots of mixer comparisons and fraust and shortee showing us something new, signs point to hardware indeed,

i wouldn't be suprised if we saw a new 2 channel and a new 3 channel mixer, and a rane midi controller or effects controller,
let the speculation contuine
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:18 PM - 6 January, 2012
can't find info about a press confrence which would defently confirm a new mixer but the deadline for booking one is 9th of Jan so hopefully its just not announced yet
djpuma_gemini 7:34 PM - 6 January, 2012
i just got confirmation, from a guy who knows a guy that that picture was photoshopped
djpuma_gemini 7:34 PM - 6 January, 2012
He wasn't really wearing a weed t-shirt
nik39 7:49 PM - 6 January, 2012
Hm .. i thought Shortee and Faust were on traitor ...
nik39 7:50 PM - 6 January, 2012
Damn auto correction ....

On Traktor not on traitor
Rane, Support
Chad S. 7:51 PM - 6 January, 2012
Quote:
well if the namm site is anything to go by I think we can expect a something new,
12:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
3:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
5:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
www.namm.org

then friday
11:00am DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
1:00pm Z Trip Lets It Rip!
3:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
5:00pm Faust & Shortee - Come See What's New!!!
www.namm.org



You should see saturdays line up ;)
Rane, Support
Chad S. 7:51 PM - 6 January, 2012
Shortee and Faust are huge supporters. Great group of DJ's and peoples. They're rocking Scratch Live.
DJ Dub Cowboy 7:56 PM - 6 January, 2012
I heard the new mixer has MOJO status.
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:57 PM - 6 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
well if the namm site is anything to go by I think we can expect a something new,
12:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
3:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
5:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
www.namm.org

then friday
11:00am DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
1:00pm Z Trip Lets It Rip!
3:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison
5:00pm Faust & Shortee - Come See What's New!!!
www.namm.org



You should see saturdays line up ;)


i did,
11:00am Beat Junkies Anniversary Celebration
1:00pm Z Trip Lets It Rip!
3:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
5:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison

might aswell add sunday's too,
12:00pm Faust & Shortee - Come See What's New!!!
2:00pm DJ Vajra - DMC 2011 World Champion
3:00pm DJ Big Wiz - Mixer Comparison,


so what time is the press conference at Chad
sacrilicious 8:03 PM - 6 January, 2012
Yay!
djdannyd 8:16 PM - 6 January, 2012
I initially was only going to attend on Thursday but after seeing Saturday's line up, I may end up taking an extra trip.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 8:37 PM - 6 January, 2012
Fairly certain there is a press conference scheduled for 10am. That is the normal routine I remember from the past few years. There will be a place that will post info from the press conference immediately but I'll reveal that location Monday ;)
djpuma_gemini 8:43 PM - 6 January, 2012
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Fairly certain there is a press conference about the new mixer scheduled for 10am. That is the normal routine I remember from the past few years. There will be a place that will post info from the press conference immediately but I'll reveal that location Monday ;)


sweet.
caliguy 8:49 PM - 6 January, 2012
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Oh and not to mention I didn't realize how clean that mixer was with the EQs flat never actually using a 57 before now I truly understand why anybody who had one loves it.


If you're enjoying the Sound and performance on your 57SL , wait till you get your hands on an Empath.

The Empath is one of the most overlooked underrated mixers. I owned both the DJM-800 and the TTM57SL and was able to compare them to the Empath. Strictly going by quality of sound and straight mixer performance not based on effects or MIDI functions, hands down, the Empath is the BEST Jack of all trades. Its excellent for blending/mixing, scratching and cutting. It can do it all very well. I sold my 57SL and my DJM-800 and kept the Empath with an SL3 box.

Im not trying to turn this into a mixer contest, just stating my personal experience. And before anyone brings up magnetic faders Vs Penny + Giles:

* Let me tell you that performance wise they are equal.
* Durability...magnetic in theory should last forever, but Penny + Giles have such a super high life rating, you'll probably outgrow your mixer way before your P + G faders give out.
* Sound wise...I don't know if the Penny + Giles faders have anything to do with Sound, but I can tell you right now, the Empath sounds way cleaner, smoother, warmer, and more NATURAL than both the DJM-800 and the 57SL.

Don't get me wrong, I really think the 57 is an awesome mixer and ready for war day in day out, and the DJM-800 with 4 channels and effects fame is well earned, but pound for pound, traditional mixer functions vs traditional mixer functions and sound quality, the Empath is superior.

Now can you imagine all the current features of the Empath, and maintaining or improving the sound quality, adding MIDI, and maybe magnetic faders with reverse hamster? Wow!
LukeSun 9:58 PM - 6 January, 2012
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i hate split cue...always have...I use the fader option and master mix button if need be...cant wrap my head around how to properly use the split thing...drives me nuts!

word, me 2...always preferred the crossfader type cue systems...guess its just personal preference but i've always disliked split cue...so much so that it could be the deciding factor in purchasing one mixer over another..

Same here.

The cueing system on the 68 for example is not very handy. It takes to long to switch between cueing a channel and cueing the master. Or from one channel to the other.

I have already suggested to have a dual-mode cueing system:
press "shift/layer" and "split cue" button, and then it will switch to a different mode where you can switch between cueing a single channel and cueing the master *without* having to turn this damn master/cue knob aaaaallll the way from one side to the other. It makes mixing less efficient.


The Sixty-Eight is not a Hip Hop Mixer and i´m ok with the CUE System at Sixty-Eight. for me it works fine :)
LukeSun 10:01 PM - 6 January, 2012
a really good improvment for a new Mixer should be the position of the backside USB Ports.
If you use the Sixty-Eight and plug-in XLR and TRS than its unpossible on a Party to plug-in USB cable in.
djtirbal 1:14 AM - 7 January, 2012
Anyone know how I can get a ticket to NAMM ? my bday is on jan 16th and i would love to go for the first time on jan 19th if anyone can help please let me know or email to djtirbalonline@gmail.com
djtirbal 1:14 AM - 7 January, 2012
correction djtribalonline@gmail.com
djdannyd 1:29 AM - 7 January, 2012
for info check this site: namm.org Unless someone can add you as guest, but i believe the free badge deadline was on the 5th
DJ Dub Cowboy 1:46 AM - 7 January, 2012
yep, you can still get a pass but there is a processing fee. Someone is always paying the namm fees too if you get a pass under them.
djdannyd 2:11 AM - 7 January, 2012
Also, if you end up going. You can pre order your grub here: reg2.showreg.net
skinnyguy 2:49 AM - 7 January, 2012
you guys are all wrong. it's gonna be a one-channel mixer....and comes with an innofader.

with eSATA.

and a box of stickers!
kryptonitednb 3:20 AM - 7 January, 2012
pic.twitter.com

Best picture yet!!!

Seriously.
kryptonitednb 3:20 AM - 7 January, 2012
I'm not joking. That is an actual picture of the mixer.
Jiggy Flipp L.O.T 3:23 AM - 7 January, 2012
Lets hope it not released 6 months from now
The Return of Dj Sparky 3:24 AM - 7 January, 2012
i believe you, great find,
the shit has most certainly hit the fan,
z-trip sorking on his namm set no doubt
The Return of Dj Sparky 3:25 AM - 7 January, 2012
working*

lets hope they have a edit option for this fourm soon too
Mighty Dragon Sounds 3:37 AM - 7 January, 2012
Looks almost like a Vestax 05 Pro 4
DJ Dub Cowboy 3:41 AM - 7 January, 2012
looks like:

-there is a lot going on that mixer
-that is a prototype
-possibly new fader knob design
-it's a mini 68
-EQ knobs are either horizontally laid out or smushed between a row of other knobs.
-lots of buttons
The Return of Dj Sparky 3:43 AM - 7 January, 2012
i bet they won't be too happy about the leak, think its safe to say this guy Dj Dieselboy who leaked the pic won't be getting sponsership anytime soon
GoodVibez 3:52 AM - 7 January, 2012
Yup just seen that tweet myself.
DJ Dub Cowboy 3:56 AM - 7 January, 2012
also don't see my cue crossfader... :-(
caliguy 3:59 AM - 7 January, 2012
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pic.twitter.com

Best picture yet!!!

Seriously.

Wow, I guess my hopes of seeing a 3 channel Empath-SL are over. This is definitely a 2 Channel mixer. Looks like it has great Serato control functionality with all those buttons.
kryptonitednb 3:59 AM - 7 January, 2012
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i bet they won't be too happy about the leak, think its safe to say this guy Dj Dieselboy who leaked the pic won't be getting sponsership anytime soon


He doesn't need it =)

One of the top DnB DJs in America and arguably the world.
Maskrider 4:10 AM - 7 January, 2012
If this is the upgrade to 57 this is where my money is going.
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:13 AM - 7 January, 2012
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If this is the upgrade to 57 this is where my money is going.


it is, gonna be a lot of 57's for sale soon, hope its not releasing futher down the line,
my guess is either end of Jan or April 1st
Maskrider 4:27 AM - 7 January, 2012
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If this is the upgrade to 57 this is where my money is going.


it is, gonna be a lot of 57's for sale soon, hope its not releasing futher down the line,
my guess is either end of Jan or April 1st


I would'nt be surprise it looks like you can control everything from all the buttons that are in there.
Johbremat 4:32 AM - 7 January, 2012
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caliguy said:

"The Empath is one of the most overlooked underrated mixers...the Empath is the BEST Jack of all trades...you'll probably outgrow your mixer way before your P + G faders give out...the Empath sounds way cleaner, smoother, warmer, and more NATURAL than [anything else in the wide-wide-world, bar maybe a rotary install]...the Empath is superior."

Amen.


Quote:
caliguy also said:

"Now can you imagine all the current features of the Empath, and maintaining or improving the sound quality, adding MIDI, and maybe magnetic faders with reverse hamster? "

This is what baffles me. That as of yet there hasn't been one. They just need to ensure they deliver in fader and rotary, in the current body (the way the 57 is to a 56): none of this neon candy junk.

And...err...wouldn't a "reverse hamster" just be standard..?
Maskrider 4:41 AM - 7 January, 2012
All of this statement might be true but the guys at RANE will look at the numbers of most sold mixers and definitely the 57 is the most widely used mixer plus most of the FAnbase of this mixer are already requesting for an upgrade to keep up with the ever growing features of Scratchlive. The Idea of putting the serato box in the RANE mixer Is from a guy here in the forums.
Maskrider 4:42 AM - 7 January, 2012
Rane is watching this Forum very Closely.
DJ Remy USA 4:47 AM - 7 January, 2012
Quote:
pic.twitter.com

Best picture yet!!!

Seriously.


First time I'm seeing this one with Z trip oh my that's a lot going on. I hope it is just a prototype that looks messy, but I'm still excited
djdannyd 4:55 AM - 7 January, 2012
guys look closely at the picture again, look at the software, is that an auto sync feature enabled?
DJMIYAGI 5:20 AM - 7 January, 2012
57+11=68
68+11=79

TTM 79 SL!
skinnyguy 5:35 AM - 7 January, 2012
i like the buttons on the side, assuming they are for cues like the 68.

does look like a lotta buttons crammed in there. and some huge knobs.
djdannyd 5:36 AM - 7 January, 2012
^^^ I'm sure that is a prototype, or at least thats my hope.
Maskrider 5:36 AM - 7 January, 2012
Do we really have to wait for NAMM?........The cat is already out.
skinnyguy 5:37 AM - 7 January, 2012
i predict around april. unless they already have a bunch made already.
djdannyd 5:39 AM - 7 January, 2012
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Do we really have to wait for NAMM?........The cat is already out.

I'd rather see it in person, and hopefully get to play with it.
the_black_one 5:40 AM - 7 January, 2012
looking for at least 3 channels. I sold my 57 and gonna pull the trigger on a 68
djdannyd 5:43 AM - 7 January, 2012
my sl3 and empath are doing the job, with this release I'm going to sell them
DJMIYAGI 6:07 AM - 7 January, 2012
An Empath SL would be nice. Why not?
SL1/2>57
SL4>68
SL3 needs a compatible mixer. Who's with me?
djdannyd 6:15 AM - 7 January, 2012
I'm with you, NAMM 2013!
caliguy 6:32 AM - 7 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
caliguy also said:

"Now can you imagine all the current features of the Empath, and maintaining or improving the sound quality, adding MIDI, and maybe magnetic faders with reverse hamster? "

This is what baffles me. That as of yet there hasn't been one. They just need to ensure they deliver in fader and rotary, in the current body (the way the 57 is to a 56): none of this neon candy junk.

And...err...wouldn't a "reverse hamster" just be standard..?
I just want to see a solid 3 Chanel mixer that also allows you to take advantage of all the features of Scratch Live without having to add a seperate controller.

As for the reverse fader, thats a real nice feature on the 57 thats done at a push of a button. I am very far from being able to call myself a scratch DJ but I know that some DJ's would appreciate being able to scratch using their channel faders to open them on a reverse (downward) movement.

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An Empath SL would be nice. Why not?
SL1/2>57
SL4>68
SL3 needs a compatible mixer. Who's with me?

+1

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I'm with you, NAMM 2013!

Silly, but at the pace Rane is moving your probably right, LOL.
Johbremat 8:23 AM - 7 January, 2012
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caliguy said:

As for the reverse fader, thats a real nice feature on the 57 thats done at a push of a button. I am very far from being able to call myself a scratch DJ but I know that some DJ's would appreciate being able to scratch using their channel faders to open them on a reverse (downward) movement.

Nah, I get ya. Just being facetious: you know, cause hamster is already reversed.

Damn, it'd be nice, though. And no need for VUs either.


Quote:
DJMIYAGI said:

An Empath SL would be nice. Why not?
SL1/2>57
SL4>68

SL3 needs a compatible mixer. Who's with me?


(Hell yes)+1^77.

*mmm, Empath-SL77*
Dj Shamann 9:57 AM - 7 January, 2012
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Hm .. i thought Shortee and Faust were on traitor ...

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Damn auto correction ....

On Traktor not on traitor



HAHA @ Nik, auto correction or Freudian slip?



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Why split cue should be better than the rotary button which goes from full cue mode to full master mode and mixing them in the middle ???


This is what I miss from the old Rane 19" club mixers. Nice stereo mix, click the buttons to toggle and blend accordingly. I've owned the 54, 56s and 57 and as much as I love these models (my 54 and I have memories) I've never liked the crossfader cue (on the 54 it was a engage master or cue button the same, but rotary instead of crossfader). It would be no problem if each channel had an individual cue button like the cue/pgm rotary, but I hate having to engage/disengage and then find a balance each time you want to switch channels, rather than keeping a set value you like and choosing the cue from the channel itself.

14 years as a Rane owner, 3 models of TTM and that's been my only complaint.
DJ P Dot 10:15 AM - 7 January, 2012
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i like the buttons on the side, assuming they are for cues like the 68.

does look like a lotta buttons crammed in there. and some huge knobs.


looking at the number of buttons and knobs on the side in comparison tot he 68, my guess is that those are the looping controls.
Rebelguy 3:45 PM - 7 January, 2012
Definitely not a mixer to use if you drink at the club. Looks like a whole lot of stuff could go terribly wrong...haha.
Maskrider 4:02 PM - 7 January, 2012
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Definitely not a mixer to use if you drink at the club. Looks like a whole lot of stuff could go terribly wrong...haha.


Drinking and Using that mixer will cause Trainwreck.
DJ Remy USA 4:25 PM - 7 January, 2012
I love the crossfader cue and I prolly wont be selling my 57 unless this new mixer is leaps and bounds above. I have dicers and Im about to get a x1 I really dont see the need for a new rane mixer unless its a three channel

Rane Three channel so if its a 2 channel mixer now go back to the board and add another channel dont. If its three channels kiss the crossfader cue option good bye
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:59 PM - 7 January, 2012
looks like the pic got removed,
good thing i saved a copy,

image.bayimg.com
The Return of Dj Sparky 5:01 PM - 7 January, 2012
link fail,

bayimg.com
Nater 5:19 PM - 7 January, 2012
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link fail,

bayimg.com


That's no mixer, it's a space station...
djtirbal 5:48 PM - 7 January, 2012
thanks dj dannyd
bboysupafly 6:20 PM - 7 January, 2012
That thing is amazing!
bboysupafly 7:35 PM - 7 January, 2012
Here's a different view:

farm8.staticflickr.com
DJ Unique 7:38 PM - 7 January, 2012
The mixer looks incredibly busy but in a good way.
Maskrider 8:02 PM - 7 January, 2012
Quote:
Here's a different view:

farm8.staticflickr.com



This is What I like about this forum bunch of resourceful people.
deezlee 8:26 PM - 7 January, 2012
another different view:
img18.imageshack.us
The Return of Dj Sparky 8:29 PM - 7 January, 2012
are you a spin doctor?
Panotaker 8:39 PM - 7 January, 2012
Forget the mixer. What's he drinking?
WarpNote 9:22 PM - 7 January, 2012
Quote:
another different view:
img18.imageshack.us

I like it, basically a 2 channel mixer with the 68 fx engine, que and loop controlls for SSL,
lets pray it comes with dual usb ports...
SiRocket 9:34 PM - 7 January, 2012
buttons aren't really interesting me... its the post fader efx and aux out / software link that interests me.... i have dicers for my looping, instant doubles, cue, and more.... i mix at various clubs and they are going to have different mixers, i don't like to get used to something that isn't at every spot... hence bringing dicers and more.
Djkom 9:46 PM - 7 January, 2012
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link fail,

bayimg.com



Hope they've changed the layout!!! It looks very messy! Too much buttons so closed each other !
I prefer x100 times the Pioneer DJM T1 layout!!!
caliguy 9:50 PM - 7 January, 2012
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another different view:
img18.imageshack.us

I like it, basically a 2 channel mixer with the 68 fx engine, que and loop controlls for SSL,
lets pray it comes with dual usb ports...
Im with you on that. Also include a 96khz sample rate on the soundcard. Please get this right Rane and dont charge an arm and a leg for this either, we are still in a recession damn it.

Quote:
buttons aren't really interesting me... its the post fader efx and aux out / software link that interests me.... i have dicers for my looping, instant doubles, cue, and more.... i mix at various clubs and they are going to have different mixers, i don't like to get used to something that isn't at every spot... hence bringing dicers and more.
You make a very good point. Thats why I went out and got me a pir of dicers but I was turned off by the some functions requiring SHIFTbuttons.

I didnt know that Dicer Tools software existed to help with this till after I took the Dicers back to the store. I purchased the DENON HC1000S and the layout was so familiar to me from day one since it kinda mirrors Serato functions. Since I found a good place for it in front of my mixer I'm really liking the HC1000S but I miss the Dicers on the tables and I dont want multiple controllers nor do I have a fourth USB plug and I dont want a USB hub with extra wires.
SiRocket 10:02 PM - 7 January, 2012
dicetools ='s me :)
DJ P Dot 10:53 PM - 7 January, 2012
My question is.....where are the vu meters?!
Dj Cali Los 11:07 PM - 7 January, 2012
dizzamn!!!! I know theres a new 2 channel mixer too!
skinnyguy 11:17 PM - 7 January, 2012
the buttons ARE the meters!


j/k
DJ Unique 11:22 PM - 7 January, 2012
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the buttons ARE the meters!


j/k

Wrong!!!
The meters are right next to the waveforms.
LOL
DJ P Dot 11:50 PM - 7 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
the buttons ARE the meters!


j/k

Wrong!!!
The meters are right next to the waveforms.
LOL


if they really are leaving the meters in software only ill be pretty sad
willythekidd 12:32 AM - 8 January, 2012
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My question is.....where are the vu meters?!


silence in the track...record not moving...gains are lowered...
Discobee 12:51 AM - 8 January, 2012
You idiots, that's the Behringer DDM4000. Ain't no new mixer coming out from Rane this year.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:53 AM - 8 January, 2012
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Behringer DDM4000



quick math problem....whats ddm4000 - 2 channels =?
jevo9 12:58 AM - 8 January, 2012
lol wow.... really?
WarpNote 1:02 AM - 8 January, 2012
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You idiots, that's the Behringer DDM4000. Ain't no new mixer coming out from Rane this year.

You need your eyes checked out ;)
phatbob 1:02 AM - 8 January, 2012
Message for Rane:

If this thing hasn't got any VU meters, don't bother showing up at NAMM. Seriously. You'll just be wasting everyone's time.
Discobee 1:04 AM - 8 January, 2012
Quote:
quick math problem....whats ddm4000 - 2 channels =?


Alrightey...I wasn't gonna say sh** about it...but here it is....I'm gonna let it all out of the bag for y'all...I don't care if the Rane guys get mad at me....here's the real mixer that everyone is catching a boner about.

i90.photobucket.com
jevo9 1:04 AM - 8 January, 2012
Quote:
Message for Rane:

If this thing hasn't got any VU meters, don't bother showing up at NAMM. Seriously. You'll just be wasting everyone's time.

it has to be a prototype.... looks too messy
DJ Dub Cowboy 1:25 AM - 8 January, 2012
That berhinger actually looks pretty sweet
skinnyguy 1:37 AM - 8 January, 2012
Quote:
Message for Rane:

If this thing hasn't got any VU meters, don't bother showing up at NAMM. Seriously. You'll just be wasting everyone's time.


Rane: "D'oh! I knew we forgot something!"
The Return of Dj Sparky 1:46 AM - 8 January, 2012
most likely the vu meters will be up around the eq's like the 68,
if you think it won't have any your smoking crack
dj_soo 1:55 AM - 8 January, 2012
i'm going to get outraged at some assumption i make based of a grainy, leaked photograph! take that rane.
Mighty Dragon Sounds 1:56 AM - 8 January, 2012
Where is the Flux Capacitor?
ral 4:35 AM - 8 January, 2012
any thunderbolt port?
dj_ys 7:09 AM - 8 January, 2012
yep, 4 thunderbolt ports & a scsi for good measure.
BroughtonGroupLLC 7:31 AM - 8 January, 2012
I can't see the picture!
Sunny Up 9:52 AM - 8 January, 2012
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I can't see the picture!


maybe somebody will post another different view of it to help ya out
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:15 PM - 8 January, 2012
all the pics are still here bar the original twitter pic,

here is the best angle
farm8.staticflickr.com
djcrap 7:53 PM - 8 January, 2012
i heard the new mixer has a Auto sync button
the_black_one 8:03 PM - 8 January, 2012
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i heard the new mixer has a Auto sync button


quit talking in ways that back up your name
MelonHead 9:30 PM - 8 January, 2012
lol
caliguy 9:42 PM - 8 January, 2012
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i heard the new mixer has a Auto sync button

I think this would be useful as an option for synching the SP6 samples and effects only.
serkan 10:18 PM - 8 January, 2012
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i heard the new mixer has a Auto sync button


quit talking in ways that back up your name

LOOOOL
djcrap 3:47 AM - 9 January, 2012
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i heard the new mixer has a Auto sync button


quit talking in ways that back up your name

LOOOOL


bwahahahahahahahahahaahaha i also heard the new mixer is not the _black_ one
djcrap 3:48 AM - 9 January, 2012
Time for a commercial break

youtu.be

enjoy!!!!!!
DJ Unique 6:24 AM - 9 January, 2012
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Time for a commercial break

youtu.be

enjoy!!!!!!

HaHaHa...
Great video.
Thanks
AVENUE 7:23 AM - 9 January, 2012
Time will tell.... Time will tell.. I will be with the crew from agiprodj.com and we will have all the info at 10am.. the first day of the show.
citi 4:55 PM - 9 January, 2012
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all the pics are still here bar the original twitter pic,

here is the best angle
farm8.staticflickr.com

I didn't know Carlos Mencia DJ'd.
Dj.Mojo 5:02 PM - 9 January, 2012
WTF no crossfader on this mixer! Screw that!
the_black_one 5:18 PM - 9 January, 2012
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Time will tell.... Time will tell.. I will be with the crew from agiprodj.com and we will have all the info at 10am.. the first day of the show.


please throat punch DJ ty. His videos are horrible. Thanx #TRUTH
citi 5:19 PM - 9 January, 2012
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WTF no crossfader on this mixer! Screw that!


Covered by his arm. Doh!
echa1945mf 5:54 PM - 9 January, 2012
Rane TTM 63 SL
Rane, Support
Chad S. 6:13 PM - 9 January, 2012
www.facebook.com Check it out ;)
BattleFunk 6:33 PM - 9 January, 2012
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www.facebook.com Check it out ;)


Tease =p
Rebelguy 8:01 PM - 9 January, 2012
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Time will tell.... Time will tell.. I will be with the crew from agiprodj.com and we will have all the info at 10am.. the first day of the show.


Hey I am going to be there with them also. See you there.
nik39 8:17 PM - 9 January, 2012
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www.facebook.com Check it out ;)

Finally!!! Welcome to 2009.

:-D
Rane
TrevorW 8:46 PM - 9 January, 2012
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www.facebook.com Check it out ;)

Finally!!! Welcome to 2009.

:-D



We also heard there is something called myspot or myspace or something like that. We should look into it.
echa1945mf 8:57 PM - 9 January, 2012
rane ttm 63 ....... 63 63 63 63 63
serkan 9:08 PM - 9 January, 2012
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We also heard there is something called myspot or myspace or something like that. We should look into it.

Nah. Myspace is almost dead. So in fact you somehow should join :p
Can say that you have been there to your grandchildren ;)
dj-freestyle 9:28 PM - 9 January, 2012
chad said a namm tease after lunch.
The Return of Dj Sparky 9:40 PM - 9 January, 2012
unless its some info on spec or a high res overhead image i don't think it's going to be any better then the leaked z-trip pic
Take It Easy 9:56 PM - 9 January, 2012
It's gonna be RANE TTM-62 and most like goes into production late Feb. You can connect 2 computers, I think. Cheach!!!!
DJ Remy USA 10:03 PM - 9 January, 2012
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unless its some info on spec or a high res overhead image i don't think it's going to be any better then the leaked z-trip pic


i bet that leaked pic was taken over 6 months ago, im sure they have added a 3rd channel and more buttons by now...


hey rane theres that 3rd channel mentioned again
DJ GaFFle 10:04 PM - 9 January, 2012
Note to Rane: For the TTM57SL replacement, please do not make an off-centered crossfader assembly like you did on the TTM68. Please go easy on the kaleidoscope of Lite Bright (www.google.com) button colors too... that is all.
aireyc 10:07 PM - 9 January, 2012
As for the ztrip pic... it looks as if the bottom half of the mixer is missing its top plate, so I'd assume that's not the final-final product.
anthracite98 10:08 PM - 9 January, 2012
As much as I want and EmpathSL I guess a 2 channel with the ability to route the AUX/SP6/Bridge through the mixer AUX is semi-acceptable. If one can Cue the Aux in, it would be even more acceptable and I suppose that would satiate most people enough. Yeah its cool rocking 3 decks but perhaps just one channel is internal routed to AUX and we use midi to control it. Lets just hope that everything in the mixer is routable and MIDI so that updates can add new features.

oh and btw, Happy New Year to all (yeah i'm late like that...)

final question, have p&p shipped anywhere?
serkan 10:35 PM - 9 January, 2012
See some name guessing here.
I think it will be TTM-58SL

Give me this feature and I will get it asap:
Denon-like flex faders (=adjustable tension) on both up- and crossfaders.
+ ability to turn off the crossfader.

I realized I don't need 4 channels since I have a 4-channel mixer :)
The Return of Dj Sparky 10:40 PM - 9 January, 2012
if anything it will be the sixty-seven to follow the newer line
djdannyd 10:46 PM - 9 January, 2012
What about TTM3:16?
BERTO 10:54 PM - 9 January, 2012
A lil birdy told me a while back 58 but cannot confirm if true or not
Mighty Dragon Sounds 11:04 PM - 9 January, 2012
According to the schedule..... every day is a mixer comparison.... I mean....... I might be guessing but I am assuming they have mixers coming out.....
Dj Shamann 11:14 PM - 9 January, 2012
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69 dudes!

static.gamesradar.com
skinnyguy 3:11 AM - 10 January, 2012
it will be an sl5
skinnyguy 3:12 AM - 10 January, 2012
with built in crossfader. only.
DJ Dub Cowboy 7:00 AM - 10 January, 2012
it's not called the 58
AKIEM 7:48 AM - 10 January, 2012
i79.photobucket.com
ekwipt 8:21 AM - 10 January, 2012
What's the picture?
nik39 8:24 AM - 10 January, 2012
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What's the picture?

Serato's new Ipad software, to run on generic tablets. Comes with the new mixer.
SiRocket 8:36 AM - 10 January, 2012
lol
ekwipt 8:43 AM - 10 January, 2012
Wish!
djcrap 2:13 PM - 10 January, 2012
it's gonna be an itch mixer with the capabilities of serato intro build in...
HYDRO MATIC 2:56 PM - 10 January, 2012
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it's gonna be an itch mixer with the capabilities of serato intro build in...


Sadly I could see this...

If so imma develop replacement buttons for the 57 and 68 with rubber tops in different colors...

Already did for the knobs...but honestly Serato and Rane as a company (IN MY OPINION) keep up and ahead of the areas they should...so I highly doubt itll be a dissapointment.
Joee 3:23 PM - 10 January, 2012
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it's gonna be an itch mixer with the capabilities of serato intro build in...


Sadly I could see this...

If so imma develop replacement buttons for the 57 and 68 with rubber tops in different colors...

Already did for the knobs...but honestly Serato and Rane as a company (IN MY OPINION) keep up and ahead of the areas they should...so I highly doubt itll be a dissapointment.

i don't think so, just look at sl1 they replaced it with sl2, it only makes sense that they will replace the 57 as it's the same hardware in side, besides how easy would it be for them to take a 57 change the look buttons etc. & put sl2 inside & make a SH!T load of money!
Mighty Dragon Sounds 3:36 PM - 10 January, 2012
The Flux Capacitor Damn!T!!!!!!!! 1.21 Gigawatts!!!!!!
BERTO 4:41 PM - 10 January, 2012
No buggy cue buttons FTW!
Djkom 5:18 PM - 10 January, 2012
Why not many mixers instead of juste one for 57sl replacement?

I could be:
a "basic" 2ch SSL mixer
+
a "intermediate" 3ch SSL mixer
+
a "top" 4ch SSL (a kind of fixed 68) mixer
+
A the world first SSL + ITCH mixer
XRM5 6:34 PM - 10 January, 2012
SSL + Itch needs to happen already, with Bridge-compatible 4-channel Video SL .

That's the only reason I'm slightly let down by the layout of this one, because it doesn't look to have any features in that direction beyond what came out in the 68.

So hopefully there is another mixer or controller coming.
HYDRO MATIC 7:31 PM - 10 January, 2012
they want seperate product lines which is why the seperation of itch and ssl...serato
they want to distinguish themsleves from other companies with a box for everyone...rane

With Traktor and most the otheres you got pro, basic and some other random titles...
Pioneer, Numark, etc you got entry level, mid level and pro stuff..

SSL is their standard period...you dont use a timecode devive get their controller setup...
or your new to this get the intro and figure it out (obviously thats their product to "diversify" and I hate it needs to exist...but I see the NEED)

Same with RANE...your not gonna go but a starter RANE mixer...someone says: "hey does your mixer have X connection" I never respond yes I always go: "its a RANE"...90% of sound techs know what to do from there...

My point is its a quality standard thing...one of the reasons I chose to stay loyal to the brands (plural).

But only time will tell...
HYDRO MATIC 7:32 PM - 10 January, 2012
*youre not goona go buy^^^^
caliguy 8:31 PM - 10 January, 2012
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Why not many mixers instead of juste one for 57sl replacement?
I like this idea. I hope to see several new mixers not just one.

I want to see an updated TTM57SL (TTM58SL?), and I want to see a Empath clone no matter under what name it goes by, just make sure you keep all the awesome functions of the original.

Rane Empath = 3 channels + Aux = 3 and a half almost 4 channels in a compact 10 inch format!

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My point is its a quality standard thing...one of the reasons I chose to stay loyal to the brands (plural).
Rane and Serato have EARNED my loyalty too.
dj-freestyle 8:38 PM - 10 January, 2012
My denon 1600 came with a copy of traktor so i figured why not just to see. no thank you. i big no thank you. not my thing. i like serato's layout and how easy it was to learn when we all went digital. the forum has been so helpful so i hope we get a update 57 among otherthings. i have a 57 besides my 1600 but would like a updated 57 for sure and video for itch. my wishes for sure.
caliguy 9:39 PM - 10 January, 2012
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My denon 1600 came with a copy of traktor so i figured why not just to see. no thank you
the 1600 is a solid mixer.

"Uncle Ricky can you tell us a bed time story, please?"
" Once upon a time, not long ago, when people wore SKINNY JEANS and lived life FAST": I had a friend that was so excited to try Traktor Pro. He had been out of the DJ scene for about 10+ years. I tried to explain the benefits of Serato, but we wasnt having any part of Serato. He even bought not one, but two Denon 1600's for Traktor compatibility and to have a turntable setup and a Denon 3700 setup. Before he got to sport out Traktor I found a good deal on an SL4 and he actually got it on a trade so he said what the heck, Ill just keep Serato as a back up. But temptation, curiosity, and my constant commenting on what a great deal he got, got the best of him and he decided to try it. That was a mistake...for him. The minute he tried Serato he felt at home on it even though he had never used a software based setup. He was was like "Yo I've been messing with Serato, its ok it works real well". Weeks later he tried to fire up Traktor and again and again and again. Each time there was some tweak he had to do, each time there was some adjustment needed. Each time he had to re-calibrate at start up. Finaly he got Traktor running the way it should and after less than an hour...crash. Traktor crashed on him. Years of expectations, months of planning, thousands of dollars invested, and hours spent on setup, and it crashes. The very next day he calls me and says "You know what Serato just did?". I was ready to hear that now something went wrong with Serato and its my fault I convinced him to get the SL4. He answered with a realy heavy tone " I accidentally left Serato on all night, and this morning I go to turn on my laptop and then...the B**** (Serato) started right back up instantly where I had left it running. F**** Traktor, I will never use that thing again! Imagine me using that at a live gig!". Man I was releived to hear it was something good, LOL. He was like "You were right about Serato". It felt pretty good to hear that.
Rebelguy 9:43 PM - 10 January, 2012
Cool story but there are numerous posts online about issues with the DN-X1600 and Traktor so that could be part of the problem.
caliguy 9:45 PM - 10 January, 2012
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Cool story but there are numerous posts online about issues with the DN-X1600 and Traktor so that could be part of the problem.
Well I dont own a DN-X1600 but Ive read nothing but positive reviews and feedback.
skinnyguy 10:09 PM - 10 January, 2012
it's gonna be the first ever TTM mixer with ITCH or INTRO built in and NO platter control.
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:59 PM - 10 January, 2012
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Cool story but there are numerous posts online about issues with the DN-X1600 and Traktor so that could be part of the problem.
Well I dont own a DN-X1600 but Ive read nothing but positive reviews and feedback.



Nothing but positive reviews and feedback huh.....how about this
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My denon 1600 came with a copy of traktor so i figured why not just to see. no thank you
the 1600 is a solid mixer.

"Uncle Ricky can you tell us a bed time story, please?"
" Once upon a time, not long ago, when people wore SKINNY JEANS and lived life FAST": I had a friend that was so excited to try Traktor Pro. He had been out of the DJ scene for about 10+ years. I tried to explain the benefits of Serato, but we wasnt having any part of Serato. He even bought not one, but two Denon 1600's for Traktor compatibility and to have a turntable setup and a Denon 3700 setup. Before he got to sport out Traktor I found a good deal on an SL4 and he actually got it on a trade so he said what the heck, Ill just keep Serato as a back up. But temptation, curiosity, and my constant commenting on what a great deal he got, got the best of him and he decided to try it. That was a mistake...for him. The minute he tried Serato he felt at home on it even though he had never used a software based setup. He was was like "Yo I've been messing with Serato, its ok it works real well". Weeks later he tried to fire up Traktor and again and again and again. Each time there was some tweak he had to do, each time there was some adjustment needed. Each time he had to re-calibrate at start up. Finaly he got Traktor running the way it should and after less than an hour...crash. Traktor crashed on him. Years of expectations, months of planning, thousands of dollars invested, and hours spent on setup, and it crashes. The very next day he calls me and says "You know what Serato just did?". I was ready to hear that now something went wrong with Serato and its my fault I convinced him to get the SL4. He answered with a realy heavy tone " I accidentally left Serato on all night, and this morning I go to turn on my laptop and then...the B**** (Serato) started right back up instantly where I had left it running. F**** Traktor, I will never use that thing again! Imagine me using that at a live gig!". Man I was releived to hear it was something good, LOL. He was like "You were right about Serato". It felt pretty good to hear that.

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Cool story but there are numerous posts online about issues with the DN-X1600 and Traktor so that could be part of the problem.
caliguy 11:16 PM - 10 January, 2012
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Nothing but positive reviews and feedback huh.....how about this
Well the story I told was about Traktor, not the Denon X1600. Although I cant rule out that there maybe some communication problems between Traktor and the Denon X1600. Like I said Ive never owned a Denon mixer, but supposedly they are pretty good. I will stick my Empath though. You have to work real hard to make a better mixer to at a greater value to get me to give up my Empath.
MelonHead 1:06 AM - 11 January, 2012
jst a thought Serato.. Rane.. how come u guys aren't at CES shows? I know your market is specific but it seems evry freakin body nowadays is a dj anyways.. jst curious cuz this guy here was @ CES last yr.. for Pioneer maybe? (assumption based on mixer in video -- i think they also unveiled DDJ cntrls there):

Watchwww.youtube.com

Maybe a channel u guys can use to unveil ur "noobie toys" and leave the real stuff for the pros @ Namm..
djcrap 1:08 AM - 11 January, 2012
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it's gonna be the first ever TTM mixer with ITCH or INTRO built in and NO platter control.


hahaha basically the auto sync version of sl plus ability to use 1200s with itch time code vinyl

after all right now both interfaces have a lot of similarities in the way the interface looks ...
Mighty Dragon Sounds 1:13 AM - 11 January, 2012
How dare you...... Itch and Scratch Live....... Wat?????????
iNBiTuiN 1:22 AM - 11 January, 2012
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jst a thought Serato.. Rane.. how come u guys aren't at CES shows? I know your market is specific but it seems evry freakin body nowadays is a dj anyways.. jst curious cuz this guy here was @ CES last yr.. for Pioneer maybe? (assumption based on mixer in video -- i think they also unveiled DDJ cntrls there):

Watchwww.youtube.com

Maybe a channel u guys can use to unveil ur "noobie toys" and leave the real stuff for the pros @ Namm..


This was actually for Speck Cases. We had ship the mixer too.
djdragon 3:05 AM - 11 January, 2012
Take a good look, it's a 3ch.
djdragon 3:08 AM - 11 January, 2012
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Look on the left of the mixer and the input section, 3ch.
SiRocket 4:18 AM - 11 January, 2012
CES is still a huge tradeshow, but i still remember the days when video game stuff was unveiled there and more... namm is where it is at for the music folk... most of the people at ces are worried about mobile stuff, tablets, and the next tv....
Mike_P 4:26 AM - 11 January, 2012
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which pic, this one? www.facebook.com



Look on the left of the mixer and the input section, 3ch.

third channel could be via rotary control, like the new 05
AVENUE 4:31 AM - 11 January, 2012
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Time will tell.... Time will tell.. I will be with the crew from agiprodj.com and we will have all the info at 10am.. the first day of the show.


please throat punch DJ ty. His videos are horrible. Thanx #TRUTH


Hey man many people look out for the reviews that he does. It take time out of the day to do them. And you know know dj ty and agiprodj because of it so the videos are working. :-)
DJ Frank Labate 4:37 AM - 11 January, 2012
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Time will tell.... Time will tell.. I will be with the crew from agiprodj.com and we will have all the info at 10am.. the first day of the show.


please throat punch DJ ty. His videos are horrible. Thanx #TRUTH


Hey man many people look out for the reviews that he does. It take time out of the day to do them. And you know know dj ty and agiprodj because of it so the videos are working. :-)

I've personally dealt with him and I have his back %100. Agiprodj is my favorite place to order from even though I'm in the east coast. They always give great deals and c'mon if you've watched his videos how can't you like the guy?
WarpNote 9:00 AM - 11 January, 2012
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Cool story but there are numerous posts online about issues with the DN-X1600 and Traktor so that could be part of the problem.
Well I dont own a DN-X1600 but Ive read nothing but positive reviews and feedback.

After the 68, the x1700/x1600 is my second favorite 4 ch mixer. I have no experience using them with traktor though...
Nicky Blunt 12:49 PM - 11 January, 2012
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All of this statement might be true but the guys at RANE will look at the numbers of most sold mixers and definitely the 57 is the most widely used mixer plus most of the FAnbase of this mixer are already requesting for an upgrade to keep up with the ever growing features of Scratchlive. The Idea of putting the serato box in the RANE mixer Is from a guy here in the forums.



dude the 57 is almost unheard of in the uk, mos clubs here use the pioneer! Asking for an empath at west end dj the guy looked at me like i had 3 heads!
Rebelguy 1:38 PM - 11 January, 2012
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Well I dont own a DN-X1600 but Ive read nothing but positive reviews and feedback.


I am not saying that it is not a good mixer. I am saying that there are issues using it with Traktor. There are also issues using the DJM-900 with Traktor.
sweetL 2:37 PM - 11 January, 2012
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almost seems like that red cable is connected to the bass player.

...the bass blayer... sam gribben?

ow.ly
LukeSun 3:19 PM - 11 January, 2012
check out: www.facebook.com
Djkom 4:02 PM - 11 January, 2012
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Here's a different view:

farm8.staticflickr.com


With this picutre,if we compare to te 68, we can see that the new mixer will have:
1. Dual USB port (top right button like the 68 to select the usb input)
2. Internal FX (bottom left blue button with the 2 upper knobs) for the 2 main channels
3. a 3rd channel !!! (mic input session with the green button on the top like the 68)
4. Dedicated 6 buttons for the sp6 (blue buttons below the channels knobs)
5. classic loops buttons and knobs (like the 68)
6. 10 or 12 weird buttons (yellow or green buttons above the upfaders) for cues ??? I DON'T LIKE !!!!!!! too small to closed together
7. a central panel (below the sp6 buttons) for FX? sampler levels? custom functions? players functions (play, cue, shuttle...ITCH capable) ?

What do you think ?
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:46 PM - 11 January, 2012
Which ones tje sync button lol jk
boabmatic 4:48 PM - 11 January, 2012
the one at the back next to the power cord ;-)
dj-freestyle 4:53 PM - 11 January, 2012
For us mobile guys denon has always been the best. It has always taken the beating and for the money lasted the longest. I get why pioneer is the standard but i have never unerstood it. havign used both alot i soooo dont get it. I love my ttm tho to. i feel like rane and denon build way better products. pioneer always seems way to plastic to me. just my thought.
citi 6:30 PM - 11 January, 2012
I'm a mobile guy and I have 5 57s going out every weekend. They are the most solid mixers I have ever used...besides the Vestex PMC-05, which may not be as good as the Rane can be throw off a cliff and the thing will keep moving. It is a metal monster.
caliguy 6:35 PM - 11 January, 2012
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After the 68, the x1700/x1600 is my second favorite 4 ch mixer. I have no experience using them with traktor though...
Besides all the MIDI functions and effects and soundcards, I still prefer the Empath because its only 10 inches, yet has beautiful warm sound, the most complete cue system possible, effects signal send and return, Auto Gain, a really nice layout, and has 3 almost 4 channels if you use the Aux. Mic in also has the effects send and return. This is why I would love to own a Serato version of the Empath.

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dude the 57 is almost unheard of in the uk, mos clubs here use the pioneer! Asking for an empath at west end dj the guy looked at me like i had 3 heads!

LOL. Yeah Rane is mainly marketed in the US, but you guys have Allen Heath, and ecler.
Although for durability I will put whatever money you want on a Rane Vs anything.

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Well I dont own a DN-X1600 but Ive read nothing but positive reviews and feedback.


I am not saying that it is not a good mixer. I am saying that there are issues using it with Traktor. There are also issues using the DJM-900 with Traktor.
So maybe Traktor is the problem with these mixers.

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Is that a new version of Scratch Live or what version is that? DJ Intro?

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For us mobile guys denon has always been the best. It has always taken the beating and for the money lasted the longest.

Denon is known to offer the best value for your money, but back in the day Denon was at the high end of the DJ market it was beyond Pioneer pricey for its time. Very few people could afford Denon dual CD players. Pioneer wasnt even in the DJ scene.

Hey guys I keep thinking that the mixers in the two pictures are two different mixers. One looks like it might be a 3 channel and the other for sure is a 2 channel. Am I right or am is it my wishful thinking?
djdannyd 6:44 PM - 11 January, 2012
Link above, that is scratch live with the bridge.
caliguy 6:46 PM - 11 January, 2012
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Link above, that is scratch live with the bridge.

So that lower screen pops up when you are on the bridge and is already the current Scratch Live version?
aireyc 6:51 PM - 11 January, 2012
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Link above, that is scratch live with the bridge.

So that lower screen pops up when you are on the bridge and is already the current Scratch Live version?


Yeah. Video from NAMM 2010: Watchwww.youtube.com
caliguy 6:59 PM - 11 January, 2012
I havent messed with the Bridge at all. I almost bought Ableton DJ Intro. I have V ideo SL and havent had a chance to mess with that either, but I am definitely going to get on Video SL soon, thats another reason why Im hoping for a new 3 channel mixer. I think the 3rd channel would help me be more creative even with Video SL.
Rebelguy 8:15 PM - 11 January, 2012
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I havent messed with the Bridge at all. I almost bought Ableton DJ Intro. I have V ideo SL and havent had a chance to mess with that either, but I am definitely going to get on Video SL soon, thats another reason why Im hoping for a new 3 channel mixer. I think the 3rd channel would help me be more creative even with Video SL.


You do know that the video only works on 2 channels right?

Also you need the full version of Ableton to use the Bridge.
WarpNote 8:22 PM - 11 January, 2012
There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
www.ableton.com
XRM5 9:13 PM - 11 January, 2012
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You do know that the video only works on 2 channels right?



This is the main thing that bummed me out about the new mixer being 2-channel.

Video SL needs more than 2 channels, and we need better hardware to control it.
citi 9:24 PM - 11 January, 2012
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There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
www.ableton.com


I can't believe I can update from my old Ableton 3 to 8 for $150! I think I'm going to do that!
WarpNote 9:26 PM - 11 January, 2012
I'm guessing there will be a new version pretty soon? Maybe at Namm?
Audio1 10:21 PM - 11 January, 2012
farm8.staticflickr.com
WarpNote 10:33 PM - 11 January, 2012
Audio, Ive already commented on that picture. I'm talking about Ableton Live....
caliguy 11:07 PM - 11 January, 2012
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You do know that the video only works on 2 channels right?

Also you need the full version of Ableton to use the Bridge.

No I havent really messed with it, Thanks.

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I'm guessing there will be a new version pretty soon? Maybe at Namm?

Hopefully for both The Bridge and Video SL. And if there is a Video SL, I hope its like Scratch Live where upgraded versions are free. I dont want to pay for that plug in again. Since Video SL is on sale I suspect there have to be some changes coming for Video SL as well.
serkan 11:31 PM - 11 January, 2012
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There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
www.ableton.com

It does 100% just lıke everything else.
You can use all functions for 30 days. After that you will need to buy a license.
The Bridge comes with Live 8 and Suite 8. But not with Live Intro.
djdannyd 1:04 AM - 12 January, 2012
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Audio, Ive already commented on that picture. I'm talking about Ableton Live....

I'm sure that you confused audio 1 since all you said was:
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There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
and...
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I'm guessing there will be a new version pretty soon? Maybe at Namm?
nothing solid just guesses and believing :p
Djkom 12:54 PM - 12 January, 2012
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Here's a different view:

farm8.staticflickr.com


With this picutre,if we compare to te 68, we can see that the new mixer will have:
1. Dual USB port (top right button like the 68 to select the usb input)
2. Internal FX (bottom left blue button with the 2 upper knobs) for the 2 main channels
3. a 3rd channel !!! (mic input session with the green button on the top like the 68)
4. Dedicated 6 buttons for the sp6 (blue buttons below the channels knobs)
5. classic loops buttons and knobs (like the 68)
6. 10 or 12 weird buttons (yellow or green buttons above the upfaders) for cues ??? I DON'T LIKE !!!!!!! too small to closed together
7. a central panel (below the sp6 buttons) for FX? sampler levels? custom functions? players functions (play, cue, shuttle...ITCH capable) ?

What do you think ?


Anyone can see something else?
djcrap 4:55 PM - 12 January, 2012
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Audio, Ive already commented on that picture. I'm talking about Ableton Live....

I'm sure that you confused audio 1 since all you said was:
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There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
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I'm guessing there will be a new version pretty soon? Maybe at Namm?
nothing solid just guesses and believing :p


bwahahahaha yea keep dreaming!!!!!! about the an update for the bridge and vsl cause it an't gonna happen!!!!!!!!!

why cause the main brains behind those two plugins was Nathan H and he no longer works for serato. plus according to the way updates were in 2011 with bugs and instability of the program you think Serato at this point will risk the stability of sl which took them the whole 2011 calendar year to get right and introduce more problems into the system in 2012 with an update for the bridge and vsl.
Nicky Blunt 4:57 PM - 12 January, 2012
they need to offer nathan H an extortionate amount of money to come back to work for team serato then
djcrap 5:01 PM - 12 January, 2012
^^^^^^ also why do you think the introduction of vsl and bridge to itch for 2011 as Serato had anticipated did not turn out as it was supposed to be.

well the answer to that is cause Nathan H the person who would have been supposedly working on it/ coding it hard left Serato.
Culprit 6:52 PM - 12 January, 2012
nathan stated before he left that there was more than enough code written for another vsl update, as for bridge who knows.
DJ Remy USA 7:16 PM - 12 January, 2012
they could just start from scatch with VSL since the guy who created it is no longer working for them. If you have a single point of failure as a company then bringing VSL into the picture was a bad move on their from jump if there was only one person who could effectively write code for the software.

With tha being said Im sure Serato nor Rane put all their eggs in one basket, if they did well shame on them
Rebelguy 7:31 PM - 12 January, 2012
A better idea would be for Serato to purchase Mix Emergency from inklen and simply repackage it. All the work is done and it is a way better product then the current VSL. Since Nick used to be a part of Serato I am sure they could work something out.
Joee 7:36 PM - 12 January, 2012
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A better idea would be for Serato to purchase Mix Emergency from inklen and simply repackage it. All the work is done and it is a way better product then the current VSL. Since Nick used to be a part of Serato I am sure they could work something out.

what the big deal, ME or VSL, when i play out people don't know the difference, they party no matter what software i use to play my vidz ME or VSL
Nicky Blunt 7:39 PM - 12 January, 2012
the big deal is that in performance to "THE USER" as opposed to the party go'er that one product is clearly better than the other. & the one that is better is made by a different company as opposed to it being in house.
Rebelguy 7:43 PM - 12 January, 2012
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A better idea would be for Serato to purchase Mix Emergency from inklen and simply repackage it. All the work is done and it is a way better product then the current VSL. Since Nick used to be a part of Serato I am sure they could work something out.

what the big deal, ME or VSL, when i play out people don't know the difference, they party no matter what software i use to play my vidz ME or VSL


Do you own ME? I am assuming no. ME is less cpu intensive, has cleaner output quality, way better effects and the ability to record with no image quality loss. Nick is also constantly developing new effects and updates for the program. It would be a win win situation for everyone.
Joee 7:48 PM - 12 January, 2012
ME is better no question there, i've used both, just saying for the party goer it didn't make a difference what was used & yes it would be a WIN WIN
Rebelguy 7:53 PM - 12 January, 2012
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ME is better no question there, i've used both, just saying for the party goer it didn't make a difference what was used & yes it would be a WIN WIN


I think the only problem is that there is no Windows version of ME.
nik39 7:54 PM - 12 January, 2012
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ME is better no question there, i've used both, just saying for the party goer it didn't make a difference what was used & yes it would be a WIN WIN


I think the only problem is that there is no Windows version of ME.

How many VSL users do you know which use VSL on a *PC*?
Joee 8:02 PM - 12 January, 2012
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ME is better no question there, i've used both, just saying for the party goer it didn't make a difference what was used & yes it would be a WIN WIN


I think the only problem is that there is no Windows version of ME.

How many VSL users do you know which use VSL on a *PC*?

you know the answer to that, NONE, funny story i don't know if i'm 100% correct, but this year a the dj expo Joshua Carl was saying somthing like he had alieanware pc that he uses for video with zero issue than he switched to a mac and had some issues

now don't quote me on that i'm not 100% sure you would have to ask him
nik39 8:06 PM - 12 January, 2012
JC, holllla.
Joee 8:10 PM - 12 January, 2012
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JC, holllla.

he now uses ME
the SOUNDINSURGENT 8:49 PM - 12 January, 2012
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ME is better no question there, i've used both, just saying for the party goer it didn't make a difference what was used & yes it would be a WIN WIN


I think the only problem is that there is no Windows version of ME.

How many VSL users do you know which use VSL on a *PC*?


I do and its flawless........Asus laptops rule, lol!!
nik39 8:50 PM - 12 January, 2012
Uh, yeah, right.
caliguy 9:32 PM - 12 January, 2012
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Asus laptops rule, lol!!

+ 1 on ASUS!
djaction 9:32 PM - 12 January, 2012
looks like it no longer has a crossfader for the cue's? fail?
nik39 10:20 PM - 12 January, 2012
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looks like it no longer has a crossfader for the cue's? fail?

:(
pdidy 10:42 PM - 12 January, 2012
noob question, can VSL or ME be used for karaoke ?
Joee 10:54 PM - 12 January, 2012
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noob question, can VSL or ME be used for karaoke ?

if you convert you files to mp4 yes
mantronics 11:03 PM - 12 January, 2012
karaoke? u gotta be kidding
mantronics 11:05 PM - 12 January, 2012
i used a dell studio 15 with no issues,then i brought a mac and haven't looked back since
the SOUNDINSURGENT 11:26 PM - 12 January, 2012
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Why would I lie?? Everybody always said I'd never get it to work on a PC so i downloaded some new drivers tweaked the codecs and boom, VSL running on a PC.
BattleFunk 11:33 PM - 12 January, 2012
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Uh, yeah, right.


Why would I lie?? Everybody always said I'd never get it to work on a PC so i downloaded some new drivers tweaked the codecs and boom, VSL running on a PC.


I use it on a PC as well - you're fighting a losing battle on this one though, the fanboys are strong up in here lol
iNBiTuiN 12:10 AM - 13 January, 2012
Wait til they come out with the update for VSL next week. They've hooked us up with that VSL sale for the past month or so already. An update is bound to come out. Either that or there is the Video Mixing Battle happening for DMC this year.
djdannyd 12:22 AM - 13 January, 2012
I'd say both things are happening
XRM5 2:42 PM - 13 January, 2012
They have to take VSL to 4 channels already.
Culprit 4:35 PM - 13 January, 2012
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They have to take VSL to 4 channels already.


Easier said than done. Do you think laptops these days can handle 4 streams x 4 tcv + output window?

think about this one before you say something like that
lvmez 4:40 PM - 13 January, 2012
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They have to take VSL to 4 channels already.


Why? Mixing four videos would look like scrambled eggs. Dj's have trouble mixing two videos.
Take It Easy 5:16 PM - 13 January, 2012
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Here's a different view:

farm8.staticflickr.com


With this picutre,if we compare to te 68, we can see that the new mixer will have:
1. Dual USB port (top right button like the 68 to select the usb input)
2. Internal FX (bottom left blue button with the 2 upper knobs) for the 2 main channels
3. a 3rd channel !!! (mic input session with the green button on the top like the 68)
4. Dedicated 6 buttons for the sp6 (blue buttons below the channels knobs)
5. classic loops buttons and knobs (like the 68)
6. 10 or 12 weird buttons (yellow or green buttons above the upfaders) for cues ??? I DON'T LIKE !!!!!!! too small to closed together
7. a central panel (below the sp6 buttons) for FX? sampler levels? custom functions? players functions (play, cue, shuttle...ITCH capable) ?

What do you think ?


I totally agree. Mixer is way too cramp. The EQs look like they're too close together with everything else. I was never too crazy about how small rane's EQ knobs are.
XRM5 5:18 PM - 13 January, 2012
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They have to take VSL to 4 channels already.



think about this one before you say something like that


Don't patronize here man, of course I thought about it. And I don't care what kinda computer it takes to run, laptop or not.

I'm not looking to spin LMFAO and Rihanna to club guidos, where 2 channels is fine.

VSL is also the best audiovisual performance instrument going right now--you can play audiovisual melodies and rhythms with almost no latency and tons of control. Having only 2 channels for something like this is a big limitation, though.

Saying 4 channels=scrambled eggs is just small-minded thinking. If they ever give it to us, plenty of people will show you what to do with it.
Rebelguy 6:29 PM - 13 January, 2012
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Saying 4 channels=scrambled eggs is just small-minded thinking. If they ever give it to us, plenty of people will show you what to do with it.


What type of images are you thinking about in regard to this? Music videos would be too messy. Ambient visuals perhaps? I'm really curious as to what could be done.
djaction 6:34 PM - 13 January, 2012
Sorry not sure if this is where I should be posting this but I don't think the 58 forum is public yet:

Alright so my TTM58 just arrived but has anyone else noticed a dropout issue when hooked up to a MBP running Snow Leopard? It runs flawless on my Lion instal.. ????
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:36 PM - 13 January, 2012
It would be horriable from club use but it could be amasing for a preplanned performance
citi 6:38 PM - 13 January, 2012
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Sorry not sure if this is where I should be posting this but I don't think the 58 forum is public yet:

Alright so my TTM58 just arrived but has anyone else noticed a dropout issue when hooked up to a MBP running Snow Leopard? It runs flawless on my Lion instal.. ????


58? You got any pics?
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:42 PM - 13 January, 2012
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Sorry not sure if this is where I should be posting this but I don't think the 58 forum is public yet:

Alright so my TTM58 just arrived but has anyone else noticed a dropout issue when hooked up to a MBP running Snow Leopard? It runs flawless on my Lion instal.. ????


58? You got any pics?



Ill post the ones of mine, just came in havent even hooked it up yet

[Link Removed]
dj-freestyle 6:54 PM - 13 January, 2012
let the fun begin. :)
Alixx J 7:30 PM - 13 January, 2012
I get drop outs on the right hand USB on my 58... Only happens when I activate the cup holder though...
Alixx J 7:33 PM - 13 January, 2012
I want 3 deck videos. Not to mix together at once, but having a 3rd deck in cue, capable of video would speed me up hugely and stop me working around my sl3 aux playing audio only...
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:54 PM - 13 January, 2012
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I want 3 dick videos. Not to mix together at once, but having a 3rd dick in view, of video would speed me up hugely and stop me wacking around my sl3



Is that bad for the sl3
skinnyguy 8:00 PM - 13 January, 2012
Slightly off topic.....

How about for 4 deck video mixing, have decks 3 & 4 control fx parameters for video fx placed on decks 1 & 2?

Sure, you could have the fx parameters direct with 1 & 2, but you can't mess with them if that's what you want played thru the main output.

Basically it would be using decks 3 & 4 as fx parameter controls with sound linked to your manipulations and visuals of 1 & 2.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:11 PM - 13 January, 2012
A midi controller is much more affordable and useable
Maskrider 8:13 PM - 13 January, 2012
+1
echa1945mf 8:15 PM - 13 January, 2012
screw the new mixer , the club im working just installed DJM900 + SL4 that shittt roooocked !!!! hells yeaaaaah
DJ Unique 9:20 PM - 13 January, 2012
I can seem to get the sync button to work on my TTM58SL. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:38 PM - 13 January, 2012
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I can seem to get the sync button to work on my TTM58SL. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?



make sure shift lock is off and make sure "simple sync" is turned on (shift then click twice)
WarpNote 9:56 PM - 13 January, 2012
If you wanna activate the "smart sync",
you need to find the hidden easter egg for the TTM58SL in SSL 2.3.4...
Niro 11:54 PM - 13 January, 2012
Is that Echa from sky garden in Bali?
Mike_P 11:58 PM - 13 January, 2012
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It would be horriable from club use but it could be amasing for a preplanned performance

your spelling and grammar is amasingly horriable
citi 12:17 AM - 14 January, 2012
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It would be horriable from club use but it could be amasing for a preplanned performance

your spelling and grammar is amasingly horriable

Ha!
caliguy 5:42 AM - 14 January, 2012
No new dirt?
echa1945mf 5:53 AM - 14 January, 2012
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Is that Echa from sky garden in Bali?



yoooo brotha ! finally met you in this forum ,hows US? when ru back in asia ? hit me up yooo
Alixx J 5:10 PM - 14 January, 2012
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I want 3 dick videos. Not to mix together at once, but having a 3rd dick in view, of video would speed me up hugely and stop me wacking around my sl3



Is that bad for the sl3


It's alright mate, my SL3 always forgives me... we have that kinda relationship :D
caliguy 7:58 PM - 14 January, 2012
So who's going to be broadcasting the Namm Serato showcasing for those of us who couldn't get to go?
DJ Dub Cowboy 9:36 PM - 14 January, 2012
I'll be doing my best to get some pics up asap. Details on the new Rane mixer will be here too...www.facebook.com
caliguy 10:40 PM - 14 January, 2012
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I'll be doing my best to get some pics up asap. Details on the new Rane mixer will be here too...www.facebook.com

Cool bro, much love, nhm (nohomo).
DJ'Que 10:57 PM - 14 January, 2012
I will also be posting fb and twittering pictures.
caliguy 11:33 PM - 14 January, 2012
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I will also be posting fb and twittering pictures.

No one will be doing live feed?
AVENUE 12:10 AM - 15 January, 2012
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I will also be posting fb and twittering pictures.

No one will be doing live feed?


Major problem with Live Feed is that NAMM is always a DEAD ZONE for service. We might try to do a live feed with a 4g hotspot but we will see.
The Return of Dj Sparky 12:15 AM - 15 January, 2012
all the important info will be released after the press confrence at 10am on the 19th of Jan,
i bet rane have a page ready to go live with info on the new mixer/mixers
djdannyd 12:20 AM - 15 January, 2012
*mixerssss
Maskrider 1:20 AM - 15 January, 2012
Here is what's on NAMM for SERATO more collectible Control Vinyls and INTRO controllers.
skinnyguy 1:22 PM - 15 January, 2012
so the new mixer is for intro?
Mike_P 1:33 PM - 15 January, 2012
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so the new mixer is for intro?

yes, definitely, absolutely, without a doubt.
DJ Frank Labate 2:39 PM - 15 January, 2012
Intro is the future.
WarpNote 4:47 PM - 15 January, 2012
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Audio, Ive already commented on that picture. I'm talking about Ableton Live....

I'm sure that you confused audio 1 since all you said was:
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There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
and...
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I'm guessing there will be a new version pretty soon? Maybe at Namm?
nothing solid just guesses and believing :p

The Trial works with the Bridge...
And according to DJTechTools: "everyone’s expecting something big from Ableton at NAMM" www.djtechtools.com
nik39 7:07 PM - 15 January, 2012
Thanks for the interesting link, warp.
Dj Ace 8:25 PM - 15 January, 2012
Good info
skinnyguy 8:59 PM - 15 January, 2012
would be funny if intro got video capability before itch
Dj Ace 9:44 PM - 15 January, 2012
Don't think so ;)
Dj Ace 9:50 PM - 15 January, 2012
Just to be clear intro is goIng to stay "intro"
Itch is the controller version
Scratch live is the dvs version

Features might get added, but each product is aimed at a different market
Mighty Dragon Sounds 11:51 PM - 15 January, 2012
Hobby....
Beginner.....
Professional.....
DJ Dub Cowboy 12:00 AM - 16 January, 2012
we are getting closer.

somethings I am really hoping for in my next mixer:
-softer buttons that the 68
-software DJ FX send/return
-internal FX that sync to the BPM in Scratch Live
-independent FX control of mic and aux in
-SP6 and/or Bridge via USB
-dual USB
-those awesome magnetic Rane faders
-improved Fader caps
-dedicated HP/FP filter knobs
-dual mic with switchable instrument input
the SOUNDINSURGENT 12:03 AM - 16 January, 2012
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we are getting closer.

somethings I am really hoping for in my next mixer:
-softer buttons that the 68
-software DJ FX send/return
-internal FX that sync to the BPM in Scratch Live
-independent FX control of mic and aux in
-SP6 and/or Bridge via USB
-dual USB
-those awesome magnetic Rane faders
-improved Fader caps
-dedicated HP/FP filter knobs
-dual mic with switchable instrument input


Whatever company produces this mixer will become king in my book.........
caliguy 12:11 AM - 16 January, 2012
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so the new mixer is for intro?

yes, definitely, absolutely, without a doubt.

Youre being sarcastic right? If so I don't appreciate this kind of humor. Lol.
AKIEM 12:22 AM - 16 January, 2012
these will make me buy:
-independent FX control of mic and aux in
-split cue

these would make me happy:
-Dual USB
-internal FX that sync to the BPM in Scratch Live
-improved Fader caps
-dedicated HP/FP filter knobs

this is just a dream:
-post fader individual program out (FlexFX)
-midi output
grotesque 1:59 AM - 16 January, 2012
this is how they need to do the fader caps

www.ebay.com.au

after grabbing a set i hate plastic caps now...
citi 2:05 AM - 16 January, 2012
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this is how they need to do the fader caps

www.ebay.com.au

after grabbing a set i hate plastic caps now...


those caps are huge!
grotesque 2:21 AM - 16 January, 2012
yeah they took a bit to get used to but they do the job well... and they screw on...
ninos 3:57 AM - 16 January, 2012
tomorrow is the day. ill be at school untill 3 pm. i told my self im not going to go on my iphone and check out what happened at namm unitll i get home. super excited!!
citi 4:07 AM - 16 January, 2012
Tomorrow is not the day. The 19th is.
DJ Unique 4:40 AM - 16 January, 2012
HaHaHa...
Maybe tomorrow is the 19th where Ninos lives.
AVENUE 4:48 AM - 16 January, 2012
Who would love to see a live feed of the Rane Press event opening day at namm?? We are working hard to make that happen. We will try to make it happen. No promises but we have everything set for a U Stream.
Nicky Blunt 4:57 AM - 16 January, 2012
nice plz post the link in this thread when ur ready
AVENUE 5:00 AM - 16 January, 2012
Will do..
ninos 5:13 AM - 16 January, 2012
my bad. LOLOLOL FAIL. i thought namm was on the 16th?!
AVENUE 5:25 AM - 16 January, 2012
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my bad. LOLOLOL FAIL. i thought namm was on the 16th?!

ALL GOOD
Dj.Mojo 9:01 AM - 16 January, 2012
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HaHaHa...
Maybe tomorrow is the 19th where Ninos lives.

lol... now where should that be?
echa1945mf 10:22 AM - 16 January, 2012
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HaHaHa...
Maybe tomorrow is the 19th where Ninos lives.

lol... now where should that be?


kepler 22B , he just move there
Dj.Mojo 10:44 AM - 16 January, 2012
lol that explains why he doesn´t age ^^
Rebelguy 5:39 PM - 16 January, 2012
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Who would love to see a live feed of the Rane Press event opening day at namm?? We are working hard to make that happen. We will try to make it happen. No promises but we have everything set for a U Stream.


I think the main problem is going to be the internet connection. How are you going to be streaming?
djcrap 6:20 PM - 16 January, 2012
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Who would love to see a live feed of the Rane Press event opening day at namm?? We are working hard to make that happen. We will try to make it happen. No promises but we have everything set for a U Stream.


I think the main problem is going to be the internet connection. How are you going to be streaming?



i think he is going to use 4G wireless internet connection some thing similar to what this company offers
www.clear.com
Rane
TrevorW 6:46 PM - 16 January, 2012
Up to 90,000 people in one spot all trying to use the internet on their cellphones makes the cell towers cry. I struggle with even text messages during the NAMM show.
DJWALDO 7:43 PM - 16 January, 2012
4 more days! You guys do the best you can... we know the information will get out as soon humanly and technically possible!
dj-freestyle 8:04 PM - 16 January, 2012
Well numark relased a new product today for traktor so we have to assume us serato heads have something good comming. :)
[O/][iii][O/] 8:22 PM - 16 January, 2012
i802.photobucket.com
nik39 8:24 PM - 16 January, 2012
Excitement in the air...
DJ Frank Labate 8:27 PM - 16 January, 2012
Gotta say the Numark 4track for Traktor looks pretty damn sexy
[O/][iii][O/] 8:31 PM - 16 January, 2012
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Gotta say the Numark 4track for Traktor looks pretty damn sexy


Gotta say it doesn't. The color scheme is horrendous and the silly, fake, childish silkscreened 45 adapters on the platters are just.....

Oh, and they failed to ad individual channel meters after everyone screamed at them for missing that on NS6.
WarpNote 8:34 PM - 16 January, 2012
I thought the NS6 would show channel meter levels when pressing and holding down the cue button for a channel?
DjWoody 8:36 PM - 16 January, 2012
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Gotta say the Numark 4track for Traktor looks pretty damn sexy


I agree. It looks retro.
[O/][iii][O/] 8:42 PM - 16 January, 2012
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I thought the NS6 would show channel meter levels when pressing and holding down the cue button for a channel?


They do.... one at a time. Not much good when trying to manage more than two sources, especially if those other sources are analog.
WarpNote 8:47 PM - 16 January, 2012
That's what I seemed to remember. Only done 1 gig with the NS6. Quickly found out I'm more confident in SSL, so I rather just instant double off asingle CDJ + the Rane mixer when traveling "light".
[O/][iii][O/] 8:50 PM - 16 January, 2012
Yeah, the NS6 IMO is a solid triple, but the definitely missed a few key things that kept it from being a homerun. Hopefully a grandslam controller is coming this week at NAMM, but something tells me these manufacturers are still in the mode of making little toys for little boys rather than getting serious about making real industrial grade tools for professionals DJ.
DJ GaFFle 8:59 PM - 16 January, 2012
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Yeah, the NS6 IMO is a solid triple, but the definitely missed a few key things that kept it from being a homerun...

Namely, spinning platters.
WarpNote 9:02 PM - 16 January, 2012
Yeah, still looking for a lighter than technics setup for smaller gigs. Even though I have the CDJ1000 players, It would be real nice to have motorized spinning platters, natively in SSL.
Waiting for the rumored Denon 3900 players...
CMOS 9:02 PM - 16 January, 2012
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Up to 90,000 people in one spot all trying to use the internet on their cellphones makes the cell towers cry. I struggle with even text messages during the NAMM show.



We set up one of these when we do trade shows to avoid this problem for our booth staff. Basically sends your call over the internet from your cell.

www.att.com
DJ Super Mario 10:31 PM - 16 January, 2012
This still goes over the cell network so if the towers are congested, I don't care what your transport is going to be... it's still going to suck.
willythekidd 10:32 PM - 16 January, 2012
cell companies are improving on their performance for congested areas such as sporting events, concerts, and trade shows. verizon even has mobile cell towers now that they set up for some of these occasions.

hopefully it won't be an issue for all those who attend this year...and hopefully you are all able to send updates! :-)
Rane, Support
Chad S. 11:06 PM - 16 January, 2012
You can always climb the palm trees outside...... Thats what a friend told me........
Dj.Mojo 11:10 PM - 16 January, 2012
monkey friend?
Dj Bacik 11:50 PM - 16 January, 2012
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This still goes over the cell network so if the towers are congested, I don't care what your transport is going to be... it's still going to suck.


Actually that makes it so that the cell phones transmit the signal through thy interwebs thus relieving people of their pain. It also locks down to 10 numbers so not just anyone can join it.

They also make one for verizon.
AVENUE 12:20 AM - 17 January, 2012
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Who would love to see a live feed of the Rane Press event opening day at namm?? We are working hard to make that happen. We will try to make it happen. No promises but we have everything set for a U Stream.


I think the main problem is going to be the internet connection. How are you going to be streaming?

We have a verizon 4g hotspot to use for the show. We are going to be blogging all day too. Updating the agiprodj facebook page. If you don't know by now agiprodj.com will be the place to get up to the minute news on new gear. bookmark us.
caliguy 1:09 AM - 17 January, 2012
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We have a verizon 4g hotspot to use for the show. We are going to be blogging all day too. Updating the agiprodj facebook page. If you don't know by now agiprodj.com will be the place to get up to the minute news on new gear. bookmark us.
You guys are great. Thanks.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 1:28 AM - 17 January, 2012
Agiprodj, lol..........
djcrap 1:50 AM - 17 January, 2012
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You can always climb the palm trees outside...... Thats what a friend told me........


This had me doing one of these

Watchwww.youtube.com
dpetree 3:15 AM - 17 January, 2012
i missed the pic's

was this the pic of the new 19" 4 channel mixer? If so, that thing is sweeeet
DJ Super Mario 2:47 PM - 17 January, 2012
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This still goes over the cell network so if the towers are congested, I don't care what your transport is going to be... it's still going to suck.


Actually that makes it so that the cell phones transmit the signal through thy interwebs thus relieving people of their pain. It also locks down to 10 numbers so not just anyone can join it.

They also make one for verizon.


It's simply a repeater though. It boosts the signal, and while your phone or laptop might have "5 bars" it doesn't mean the cell tower sending the hotspot the signal is going to have increased capacity. If the sending tower is at max capacity, I don't care if you have 10 repeaters... it's still not going to increase the pipe size. Now if the problem is the amount of requests and not bandwidth, then yes this might help.
AVENUE 3:37 PM - 17 January, 2012
Let us pray we have good service if not then we will have cameras set up and record the whole thing. and will be up on youtube that same day.
caliguy 4:46 PM - 17 January, 2012
Announced Today: Serato Video, a replacement to Video SL for use with Scratch Live and ITCH and offers MIDI out! Plus you can use ITCH controllers to control video while using Scratch Live!
serato.com
lvmez 4:51 PM - 17 January, 2012
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Announced Today: Serato Video, a replacement to Video SL for use with Scratch Live and ITCH and offers MIDI out! Plus you can use ITCH controllers to control video while using Scratch Live!
serato.com


serato.com
damehype 5:00 PM - 17 January, 2012
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Plus you can use ITCH controllers to control video while using Scratch Live!
serato.com


I could be wrong, but that's not what I got out of that
Rebelguy 5:08 PM - 17 January, 2012
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Plus you can use ITCH controllers to control video while using Scratch Live!
serato.com


I could be wrong, but that's not what I got out of that


Yep...I think they meant VSL will work with Itch.

Why do I feel most of the products are going to be leaked before NAMM...haha. I think NAMM will be more of a place to get a hands on of the products.

I am hoping to be blogging the whole day myself if I get my crap together and finish my site today and tomorrow.
Rebelguy 5:09 PM - 17 January, 2012
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You can always climb the palm trees outside...... Thats what a friend told me........


Tarzan?
caliguy 5:22 PM - 17 January, 2012
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Plus you can use ITCH controllers to control video while using Scratch Live!
serato.com


I could be wrong, but that's not what I got out of that

This is from the Serato Video ("SV") site:

" Total Control
Manipulate playback with
Serato Control Vinyl, CDs or with
your ITCH Controller of choice."

It is a little confusing, maybe they mean vinyl and CD control of video on Scratch Live and ITCH controller control of video on ITCH. But if they are offering MIDI out, why would you NOT be able to use ITCH controllers or any other controllers for that matter. They wouldnt cut their own products short like that.
phatbob 5:29 PM - 17 January, 2012
You can already control aspects of VSL with Itch controllers, that wouldn't be news at all. They're just midi controllers when Itch isn't running.

The news is that you can now use it with Itch software.
XRM5 6:45 PM - 17 January, 2012
Would be cool if you could mix an Itch platter with vinyl control at the same time, though. Keeping them separate looks more arbitrary all the time.
caliguy 6:56 PM - 17 January, 2012
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You can already control aspects of VSL with Itch controllers, that wouldn't be news at all. They're just midi controllers when Itch isn't running.

The news is that you can now use it with Itch software.

But it kinda is news because of the MIDI out possibilities, or is that not new?
Rebelguy 7:01 PM - 17 January, 2012
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You can already control aspects of VSL with Itch controllers, that wouldn't be news at all. They're just midi controllers when Itch isn't running.

The news is that you can now use it with Itch software.

But it kinda is news because of the MIDI out possibilities, or is that not new?


Midi out of the Itch controllers is not new. It's been there. Are they going to let you use them to control Scratchlive...that's on Rane and Serato and possibly Pioneer as they have the monopoly on that right now.
caliguy 7:02 PM - 17 January, 2012
lvmez , has pointed out that there is already a discussion about the new Serato Video in previous forum at:
serato.com
caliguy 7:08 PM - 17 January, 2012
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Midi out of the Itch controllers is not new. It's been there. Are they going to let you use them to control Scratchlive

That's what I meant. As far as I know Serato had not allowed MIDI out on anything until now.

This whole new Serato Video thing tells me that the new mixer will definitely be optimized to take advantage of the new Serato Video functions, hence all those buttons.
jevo9 7:12 PM - 17 January, 2012
the new mixer will be midi.
XRM5 7:13 PM - 17 January, 2012
The 68 came out after video, and it doesn't have any video-specific controls if I remember right, just general-purpose stuff that you page thru like the 57 controls are. Granted, there are more controls, but nothing like little video effect choosers & triggers for each channel or optional video-only 2nd faders or anything. If that ever happens, it's likely to be somebody besides Rane building it into an Itch controller.
XRM5 7:16 PM - 17 January, 2012
A little Itch knockoff of Pioneer's SVM-1000 would be pretty amazing. Maybe with an iPad or iPhone cradle in the middle for the touchscreen?
CMOS 7:19 PM - 17 January, 2012
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This still goes over the cell network so if the towers are congested, I don't care what your transport is going to be... it's still going to suck.




Actually that makes it so that the cell phones transmit the signal through thy interwebs thus relieving people of their pain. It also locks down to 10 numbers so not just anyone can join it.



They also make one for verizon.




It's simply a repeater though. It boosts the signal, and while your phone or laptop might have "5 bars" it doesn't mean the cell tower sending the hotspot the signal is going to have increased capacity. If the sending tower is at max capacity, I don't care if you have 10 repeaters... it's still not going to increase the pipe size. Now if the problem is the amount of requests and not bandwidth, then yes this might help.



Umm yeah, its not a repeater. It doesnt grab the cell signal and boost it. It creates its own cell signal and sends that call over the internet. No cell tower involved at ALL.

I use them in places where there is absolutely NO cell signal. My office has a few dead spots so for the people who sit in those areas we map their cell onto the microcell.

www.att.com

As the bacik said they make em for Verizon too. Do some research before you speak on what you are sure of.
Rebelguy 7:32 PM - 17 January, 2012
I am waiting for the LTE version from Verizon.
DJ Super Mario 8:54 PM - 17 January, 2012
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Do some research before you speak on what you are sure of.


CMOS,

No need to get all e-thug and aggressive on me. It was a simple mistake. I misread it and thought it was a repeater. I know all about microcells and how they convert cell network data to IP via Internet. For your information, I'm a full time Network Engineer and part time DJ. I work with very high end technology on a day to day basis, so don't talk down to me like I'm a member of the geek-squad. Responses like that are why these forums have a negative feel to them. If you had posted your post without the condescending ending, I would have taking it in stride and admitted my mistake. Instead you come across as a wanna-be elitist and ass.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:00 PM - 17 January, 2012
^you mad bro?
CMOS 9:01 PM - 17 January, 2012
Its all good, you had two people try to explain it to you and didnt listen without reading and shitting all over the product i said might help. Figured it would help others to know the real deal and specify what it does.

As a fellow Network Engineer, you came off like a member of the geek squad which is why i answered the way i did.
DJ Super Mario 9:05 PM - 17 January, 2012
Not mad... I just feel sometimes people take the wrong approach when responding to posts and come across really negative. It's all over these boards.

As far as shitting on the product, that wasn't my intent. I guess typed words can come across misconstrued at times. Looking at the picture it looked very similar to a repeater I've seen before, so maybe I did jump the gun and post without reading the specs first. That part was my mistake. Either way... done deal. So yeah, that might help. The only other thing that would suck though is if the Internet pipe they have at the con is saturated.
CMOS 9:12 PM - 17 January, 2012
Its all good. IT Guy hugz 4 everyone.

ha
dpetree 9:14 PM - 17 January, 2012
IT guy here too..hugz back....hahaha
DJ Super Mario 9:21 PM - 17 January, 2012
lol
HYDRO MATIC 9:31 PM - 17 January, 2012
...rest of the department over hear wondering why all these guys are randomly hugging?

lol
caliguy 9:40 PM - 17 January, 2012
Hey guys when I saw the Serato Video news and info it stated MIDI out, now I dont see that anywhere? Does anybody see that somewhere or was that edited?
djdannyd 9:51 PM - 17 January, 2012
Never said "MIDI out"

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Mix Video with
Serato DJ SoftwareAdd video clips to your Scratch Live
or ITCH performance.

Portable SolutionView loaded clips and output
from your computer.

Total ControlManipulate playback with
Serato Control Vinyl, CDs or with
your ITCH Controller of choice.

Visual EffectsUse built in transitions and effects including text and image effects.

Audio Responsive EffectsEnrich your set with audio
responsive effects, including bass zoom and splits, that are controlled
by analyzing the music signal.

Offline PreparationPreview and manage video files
in both the ITCH and Scratch Live offline players.

Instant DoublesUse Video Instant Doubles to play
the same video and effects on
a second deck.

Advanced File ManagementStore effects within each video file
for instant recall.

Output FlexibiltySetup different output configurations
- Output Only, L/R prefader or all three outputs - for greater flexibility when video mixing externally.

MIDI control
for Scratch Live
Utilize 3rd party controllers with
Serato Video’s MIDI control
in Scratch Live.

More info: skratchworx.com
caliguy 10:00 PM - 17 January, 2012
You know, I was so damn excited when I saw MIDI out, this morning because of the possibilities of also allowing MIDI out for SSL. I swear I saw it state that under where it starts to say "Utilize 3rd party controllers" or somewhere in there.
DJ GaFFle 10:24 PM - 17 January, 2012
I get pissed every time I see this thread's title. The new TTM is not here (YET). We don't even know model name.
AIRX ONE 10:32 PM - 17 January, 2012
its going to called the ttm z
iNBiTuiN 10:36 PM - 17 January, 2012
2 more days. I do have to wait til Friday though until I snuggle with that new mixer.
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:43 PM - 17 January, 2012
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its going to called the ttm z

Can it do a kao-ken
ekwipt 11:51 PM - 17 January, 2012
Vestax Traktor Certified Mixer to be released at NAAM?
djdannyd 11:53 PM - 17 January, 2012
yawn
caliguy 12:00 AM - 18 January, 2012
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yawn

+1 Any new tidbits on this mixer?
djcrap 12:40 AM - 18 January, 2012
Rane traktor Certified Mixer to be released at NAMM!!!!!
DJ Remy USA 12:41 AM - 18 January, 2012
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this is how they need to do the fader caps

www.ebay.com.au

after grabbing a set i hate plastic caps now...


that looks horrible to DJ with like those square vastex caps uhhh I hate em just my opinion
caliguy 1:12 AM - 18 January, 2012
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Rane traktor Certified Mixer to be released at NAMM!!!!!

Yeah right.
djdannyd 1:17 AM - 18 January, 2012
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Rane traktor Certified Mixer to be released at NAMM year 2025!!!!!
djcrap 3:02 AM - 18 January, 2012
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Rane traktor Certified Mixer to be released at NAMM!!!!!

Yeah right.


well if Rane and serato are both different companies .....i don't see why this is not possible due to the fact that rane -serato contract is about to expire....


i mean serato has partnerships with ableton, pioneer, denon and nurmark....etc

so i don't see any reason why Rane can't do the same and partner with other companies like traktor or virtual dj and build mixers or hardware for them.
djdannyd 4:38 AM - 18 January, 2012
how do you know the details about their contracts expiration date?
DJ Unique 6:27 AM - 18 January, 2012
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how do you know the details about their contracts expiration date?

I'm wondering the same thing.
willythekidd 6:53 AM - 18 January, 2012
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how do you know the details about their contracts expiration date?


somebody already said it on the internet...so it has to be true.
Culprit 7:38 AM - 18 January, 2012
ah the internet, yep heard lots o cray things der
pdidy 7:54 AM - 18 January, 2012
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how do you know the details about their contracts expiration date?

I'm wondering the same thing.

duhhh......read his name.
the_black_one 7:55 AM - 18 January, 2012
he always makes statements that confirm his name.
serkan 5:34 PM - 18 January, 2012
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he always makes statements that confirm his name.

+1
djdannyd 5:38 PM - 18 January, 2012
ouch!
djcrap 7:02 PM - 18 January, 2012
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how do you know the details about their contracts expiration date?

I'm wondering the same thing.

duhhh......read his name.

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+1

+100000000000000000000
bwhahahahahha pdidy the _black_one
as it has been said before don't argue with an idiot like crap cause he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience:D......lol

any way all speculations and predictions in this thread about Namm are all the same-o crap every year just before Namm same-o shit but just deferent toilet. (no flash intended)
djcrap 7:25 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Rane traktor Certified Mixer to be released at NAMM!!!!!

Yeah right.


well if Rane and serato are both different companies .....i don't see why this is not possible due to the fact that rane -serato contract is about to expire....


i mean serato has partnerships with ableton, pioneer, denon and nurmark....etc

so i don't see any reason why Rane can't do the same and partner with other companies like traktor or virtual dj and build mixers or hardware for them.



any way jokes a side Rane got to start figuring out a way to get that itch money just like serato. or serato through them a bone or a piece of the itch hustle

1. either by having Rane make a Rane controller

2. either by allowing Rane also in the early stages of partnering up/ working out a deal with the same companies serato is getting it's itch controllers from. Serato may be allowing Rane say join in a deal. like Rane could make/ produce a line for magnetic cross fader kits to be put into the itch controllers if in future an itch user with an ns6 itch controller...etc wants to upgrade to the Rane magnetic cross fader like that found in the tt57 mixer. This idea could be just like how the innofader kit works or some thing similar.
djcrap 7:26 PM - 18 January, 2012
Through = throw
damn auto correct is crap!!!!!..lol
J.J. 7:41 PM - 18 January, 2012
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bboysupafly 7:56 PM - 18 January, 2012
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That's a sick design.
Henry GQ 7:57 PM - 18 January, 2012
except for the built in sound efx
SiRocket 8:30 PM - 18 January, 2012
post fader sound efx are the shit!
AKIEM 9:00 PM - 18 January, 2012
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post fader sound efx are the shit!
Joee 9:00 PM - 18 January, 2012
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That's a sick design.

seeing this picture, now i know why the 68 came first no one would have bought a 68 if this ttm 58 was out first
AKIEM 9:01 PM - 18 January, 2012
Oh that's the other thing I hope is one one of these new mixers, a way to trigger the flexFx with the foot pedal!!!
Alixx J 9:02 PM - 18 January, 2012
It's an ace design... Please, please, please not the same buttons though!!!
[O/][iii][O/] 9:04 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Make it a 3-channel (e.g. Empath) and ditch the linear faders in favor of rotaries and I'll buy two of them.
DjWoody 9:04 PM - 18 January, 2012
Pretty slick. Hopefully the price stays about the same. But, it's hard to not compare it against the Pioneer DJM - T1. Function wise it's very similar, except the TTM58 has dual USB which is AWESOME and a winner in my book, but I don't see any Midi. :( Now if only this mixer will lauch rockets.
DjWoody 9:05 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Make it a 3-channel (e.g. Empath) and ditch the linear faders in favor of rotaries and I'll buy two of them.


Lol I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they could offer a fader replacement kit like Pioneer does. Best of both worlds.
damehype 9:05 PM - 18 January, 2012
Buttons look the same
[O/][iii][O/] 9:06 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Make it a 3-channel (e.g. Empath) and ditch the linear faders in favor of rotaries and I'll buy two of them.


Oh, and ditch the crossfader in favor of a 3-band master isolator (e.g. E&S DJR400)
HYDRO MATIC 9:13 PM - 18 January, 2012
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AUTHENTIC?

UGH...no cross fader cue....sad day over here...
str8nger 9:14 PM - 18 January, 2012
That's a horrible looking mixer
djdannyd 9:15 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Buttons look the same

its a model drawing, it's not the real thing. It's not even official from Rane.

I have a feeling that we will see a 2 & a 3 channel mixer.
Joee 9:24 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Buttons look the same

its a model drawing, it's not the real thing. It's not even official from Rane.

I have a feeling that we will see a 2 & a 3 channel mixer.

it looks the same as the mixer in the z trip pic
Joee 9:25 PM - 18 January, 2012
farm8.staticflickr.com
Djkom 9:31 PM - 18 January, 2012
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What is the link behind the link removed???

The concept is really cool except 2 or 3 little thins but it's promising !!!

Anyway we will have the final episode tomorrow !
dj shadow from detroit 9:43 PM - 18 January, 2012
someone is getting deleted for posting this... just saying
AVENUE 9:46 PM - 18 January, 2012
Live Video of the new Rane Mixer tomorrow Morning at 10am (PST)
www.stickam.com

Live Blog Update here at
www.agiprodj.com
ninos 9:52 PM - 18 January, 2012
oh my god i have a math final tomrowo morning and i wont be able to concentrate. damn you rane!
willythekidd 9:53 PM - 18 January, 2012
this could just be somebodies mock up...
DJ Pimp 9:54 PM - 18 January, 2012
Shit is so fucking sexy, I think I jizzed in my pants..
dj vegas 9:57 PM - 18 January, 2012
I HOPE IT HAS SPLT CUE I mix in my head phones. i busted an ear drum and have to keep my volume very low now and only head phone mixing works for me . Soooo lets hope there is a split cue:)
Joee 10:03 PM - 18 January, 2012
the link with the pic is gone
dj vegas 10:04 PM - 18 January, 2012
hahahahahaha!!!
dj vegas 10:04 PM - 18 January, 2012
damn i should have taken a screen shot
dj vegas 10:08 PM - 18 January, 2012
ops i did i64.photobucket.com
Joee 10:10 PM - 18 January, 2012
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ops i did i64.photobucket.com

just in case,-----> imageshack.us
dj vegas 10:11 PM - 18 January, 2012
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ops i did i64.photobucket.com

just in case,-----> imageshack.us



the cat can fit in the bag now lol no split cue that sucks!!!!
dj vegas 10:13 PM - 18 January, 2012
looks like i get to sleep in tomorrow for the first time in 5 years of this namm ish lol
dj vegas 10:13 PM - 18 January, 2012
thanks 4 the leak!
DJ Sainte 10:13 PM - 18 January, 2012
I think they're cool with the layout pic leaking. It was the real photo of the mixer in use I think they didn't want out
dj vegas 10:17 PM - 18 January, 2012
who cares it probably wont even be out till next december i hate namm "they say aww look at what we kinda made lol just make it the tell us "You can go get it the next day at sam ash!" It took me like 9 months to get my 68 fml
dj vegas 10:20 PM - 18 January, 2012
I hope the head phone jack is better on this one! i have the 68 and we have 2 at work and all 3 have trouble with all kinds of headphones. i had 3 57s and an empath and none of them had one problem with the headphone jack!
dj vegas 10:21 PM - 18 January, 2012
and if they use the same buttons as the 68 "cue 1-6"people will hate this 58!
willythekidd 10:24 PM - 18 January, 2012
if this is the "real deal" then at first glance i'm disappointed. i'll have to wait till tomorrow to see the release before i make a judgement.
DJ Remy USA 10:25 PM - 18 January, 2012
Looks kool I would by it. Rane can we get mpc Like buttons but it needs tobe durable and evenly spaced. Please thank you
dj vegas 10:25 PM - 18 January, 2012
if ita more than a grand it looks like a flop
Henry GQ 10:26 PM - 18 January, 2012
whats the P1 and P2 buttons for ?
K DoGG 10:26 PM - 18 January, 2012
Wheres the Aux volume? fake pic i say...but will soon find out
Henry GQ 10:26 PM - 18 January, 2012
or even the b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 b6 buttons?
DJ Super Mario 10:26 PM - 18 January, 2012
Looks dope except for a few things I would like to see on it like a seperate aux out volume control and the joysticks on the 57. I could care less about split cue, but I know a lot of people on here want it. I monitor the old way with a headphone on my shoulder... always have, so it doesn't bother me.
lvmez 10:26 PM - 18 January, 2012
wether dj's like it or not, it will be a success.

the most important question will be, when does it come out?

like vegas said, it will be annoying if it comes out 6 months from now.
dj_soo 10:27 PM - 18 January, 2012
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if ita more than a grand it looks like a flop


considering the 57 dropped at $1500, this will most definitely be more than a grand
lvmez 10:28 PM - 18 January, 2012
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if ita more than a grand it looks like a flop


c'mon son, you know it's going to be more than a grand.
dj_soo 10:28 PM - 18 January, 2012
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wether dj's like it or not, it will be a success.

the most important question will be, when does it come out?

like vegas said, it will be annoying if it comes out 6 months from now.


fft - 6 months would be perfect for me to pay down my credit card just in time to rack it back up again :p
dj vegas 10:29 PM - 18 January, 2012
i dont see a session in or out so i hope this is a fake and there is a split cue:)
jprime 10:31 PM - 18 January, 2012
Definitely want.
slimmjimm 10:32 PM - 18 January, 2012
I'm not really always sure what I'm looking for in a new mixer, but I'm pretty sure this is not it. Layout IMO is horrible.

I have high hopes, I'm ready for a new mixer.
djdannyd 10:32 PM - 18 January, 2012
NOT AN OFFICIAL PICTURE!

More than half of your message contains capital letters. To many forum users this means you are SHOUTING your message, and is considered bad forum etiquette. Please consider editing your message so that there are fewer capital letters.
dj vegas 10:35 PM - 18 January, 2012
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it loooks the same as the one the guy is using in the picture!!!
Djkom 10:37 PM - 18 January, 2012
imageshack.us
dj vegas 10:37 PM - 18 January, 2012
farm8.staticflickr.com <<<<
dj_soo 10:38 PM - 18 January, 2012
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it loooks the same as the one the guy is using in the picture!!!


it looks like someone made that picture based on what you could make out from the z-trip pic - doubt it's really accurate.
BERTO 10:39 PM - 18 January, 2012
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it loooks the same as the one the guy is using in the picture!!!


it looks like someone made that picture based on what you could make out from the z-trip pic - doubt it's really accurate.

pretty accurate if you ask me they even did the grey on the level/depth knob ...i dunno.......
dj vegas 10:39 PM - 18 January, 2012
+1 i hope
Djkom 10:40 PM - 18 January, 2012
imageshack.us <<<<<
Djkom 10:40 PM - 18 January, 2012
lol
K DoGG 10:40 PM - 18 January, 2012
looks like they have just photoshoped up a pic using the 68... have a look www.gigacrate.com
dj vegas 10:41 PM - 18 January, 2012
hahahah rane people are cracking up right now:)
BERTO 10:41 PM - 18 January, 2012
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looks like they have just photoshoped up a pic using the 68... have a look www.gigacrate.com

yea i agree but the ztrip pic and that photoshop is dead on........
willythekidd 10:42 PM - 18 January, 2012
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it loooks the same as the one the guy is using in the picture!!!


easily photoshopped. there are several things i think are correct in this picture. but there are several reasons i believe it's fake.

reasons i believe it's a fake mock up:
*no session out
*no independent gain aux control
*the efx don't make any sense
*graphics don't match the ztrip pic
*pan for main/each channel...again...doesn't make sense
*graphic/logo doesn't match
*all rane promo pics show the contour knobs
BERTO 10:42 PM - 18 January, 2012
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hahahah rane people are cracking up right now:)

yea
or they are like ....FUCK we should of change the cue buttons!
willythekidd 10:42 PM - 18 January, 2012
whoops put graphics twice
aireyc 10:45 PM - 18 January, 2012
FAKE. In both the serato team picture and the z-trip picture, there are 3 buttons next to each other on the top left, and the orange button is the right-most button. On the fake picture there are only two buttons and the orange is the left button as it is on the 68.
dj vegas 10:48 PM - 18 January, 2012
i just made this i64.photobucket.com
dj vegas 10:50 PM - 18 January, 2012
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hahahah rane people are cracking up right now:)

yea
or they are like ....FUCK we should of change the cue buttons!

yes the 68 buttons are a fail i use the dicer because they suck so bad but im sure they know it!!!!!
DJ Super Mario 10:50 PM - 18 January, 2012
I know it's fake because the channel input selectors both are using inputs 1 and 2 instead of 1 and 2 for channel 1, and 3 and 4 for channel 2. But I bet it's pretty close to what the real deal is...
Joee 10:51 PM - 18 January, 2012
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looks like they have just photoshoped up a pic using the 68... have a look www.gigacrate.com

you know your wright, why would a ttm 58 have a ,a & b for two laptops, it would not
dj vegas 10:51 PM - 18 January, 2012
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look right on it to me
AKIEM 10:53 PM - 18 January, 2012
Wheres the J2?
lol
DJ Super Mario 10:54 PM - 18 January, 2012
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looks like they have just photoshoped up a pic using the 68... have a look www.gigacrate.com

you know your wright, why would a ttm 58 have a ,a & b for two laptops, it would not



Why would it not???

That side by side pic shows it's very close, but the layout doesn't exactly match where knobs and buttons line up with each other... so it's a good fake and a great guess!
DJ Super Mario 10:55 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Wheres the J2?
lol


That's what I'm asking! Because having to select a group to choose control over channel 1 or 2 would suck!
Audio1 10:59 PM - 18 January, 2012
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Audio, Ive already commented on that picture. I'm talking about Ableton Live....

I'm sure that you confused audio 1 since all you said was:
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There is a free trial, I believe it works with the bridge...
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I'm guessing there will be a new version pretty soon? Maybe at Namm?
nothing solid just guesses and believing :p


DANNY D hit it right on the nail on WarpNote's assumptions. Then again, A lot changed in 1 week. CARRY ON.
Joee 11:14 PM - 18 January, 2012
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looks like they have just photoshoped up a pic using the 68... have a look www.gigacrate.com

you know your wright, why would a ttm 58 have a ,a & b for two laptops, it would not



Why would it not???

That side by side pic shows it's very close, but the layout doesn't exactly match where knobs and buttons line up with each other... so it's a good fake and a great guess!

i think a replacement 57/58 would not have sl4 hardware, but rather sl2 hardware built in
J.J. 12:17 AM - 19 January, 2012
Wishlist
• RUBBER BUTTONS!!! (At least for the Cues)
• Headphone Jacks that work after 3 months
• 3 Deck support (1 button on Deck A/B to duplicate to Deck C)
• Dual Effects Engine would be sick. 1 for each side.
Side Note: The 6 Blue (B1 - B6) Buttons could be 6 effects
• Filter for each side. (Probably on the left and right side instead of Level/Depth)
• Session In (I ran out of room)
• Session Out
• Beat / 2 and * 2 (Probably in the upper left corner) Good eye where MIC ON is
• Aux Volume (No Cue PAN if this was included)
• Split Cue (It was suppose to go under Phones) The Phones Volume and Split Cue could be on the front of the mixer???
• J1 P1 (Look at the 57) I really have no idea what goes there from the picture.
• The FLEXFX MIX on the Sixty-Eight is useless to me. I understand why the engineers did it, but all the effects sound great at max. I would not want this on the top of my mixer.
• Under $1600 Street

You guys are funny. This was my interpretation of the leaked picture. I didn't see the two buttons where I put the MIC ON though. Now I'm sure it's the BEAT Divide and Multiply and the effects Parameters are underneath.
skinnyguy 12:40 AM - 19 January, 2012
with all those buttons and 1 joystick, it better have a street fighter easter egg.
Henry GQ 12:43 AM - 19 January, 2012
if they put the same buttons as the 68.. i will fuckin walk into that company beat the fuck out of someone. u gotta be dumb, blind , deaf and numb not to know to change the fuckin buttons... with all the people that complained about this shit.
jevo9 12:48 AM - 19 January, 2012
I think Rane is smart enough to change those buttons. I truly hope they learned from the sixty eight.... Sad thing is we will have to wait half a year for this mixer to drop in stores.
[O/][iii][O/] 12:50 AM - 19 January, 2012
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if they put the same buttons as the 68.. i will fuckin walk into that company beat the fuck out of someone. u gotta be dumb, blind , deaf and numb not to know to change the fuckin buttons... with all the people that complained about this shit.


IMO they should've known better on the 68 too before releasing it. I expect those types of rookie mistakes from lesser manufacturers but NOT Rane.
Jiggy Flipp L.O.T 12:52 AM - 19 January, 2012
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Sad thing is we will have to wait half a year for this mixer to drop in stores.......



This is what I'm thinking . I need a new mixer asap. Might pick up a 56 if this thing ACTUALLY is any good.
DJ Remy USA 12:55 AM - 19 January, 2012
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if they put the same buttons as the 68.. i will fuckin walk into that company beat the fuck out of someone. u gotta be dumb, blind , deaf and numb not to know to change the fuckin buttons... with all the people that complained about this shit.


i think they heard us....so hopeful they did
caliguy 1:11 AM - 19 January, 2012
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You guys are funny. This was my interpretation of the leaked picture.

Ive been sitting back waiting to see when you were going let them know, JJ.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 1:58 AM - 19 January, 2012
If it ain't 3 channels they might aswell go back home in my opinion........the sampler NEEDS its own channel, period........
djpuma_gemini 2:00 AM - 19 January, 2012
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If it ain't 3 channels they might aswell go back home in my opinion........the sampler NEEDS its own channel, period........


Not if a new version of SSL has autosync for the sampler or autobpm, whatever you call it
dj shadow from detroit 2:01 AM - 19 January, 2012
i think the sampler will have auto sync eventually
the SOUNDINSURGENT 2:04 AM - 19 January, 2012
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If it ain't 3 channels they might aswell go back home in my opinion........the sampler NEEDS its own channel, period........


Not if a new version of SSL has autosync for the sampler or autobpm, whatever you call it


I still wanna be able to control my volume via the mixer not the mouse.........but yeah let's hope they add that.
[O/][iii][O/] 2:14 AM - 19 January, 2012
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If it ain't 3 channels they might aswell go back home in my opinion........the sampler NEEDS its own channel, period........


Not if a new version of SSL has autosync for the sampler or autobpm, whatever you call it


I still wanna be able to control my volume via the mixer not the mouse.........but yeah let's hope they add that.


Agreed. Must have a physical knob/slider to manually control samples'/loop decks' volume from the mixer. One reason I love the Empath.
ancientyouth 2:38 AM - 19 January, 2012
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Pretty slick. Hopefully the price stays about the same. But, it's hard to not compare it against the Pioneer DJM - T1. Function wise it's very similar, except the TTM58 has dual USB which is AWESOME and a winner in my book, but I don't see any Midi. :( Now if only this mixer will lauch rockets.


Its midi... It has the back button which is for a midi control setup like the 68,
dual effects engines!
Looks like the Same buttons as the 68
the SOUNDINSURGENT 2:50 AM - 19 January, 2012
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If it ain't 3 channels they might aswell go back home in my opinion........the sampler NEEDS its own channel, period........


Not if a new version of SSL has autosync for the sampler or autobpm, whatever you call it


I still wanna be able to control my volume via the mixer not the mouse.........but yeah let's hope they add that.


Agreed. Must have a physical knob/slider to manually control samples'/loop decks' volume from the mixer. One reason I love the Empath.


Yup if that Empath had MIDI Id ditch my Ecler in a heart beat!! I can only pray that a MIDI Empath gets released tomorrow.........and if a soundcard was built-in OMFG!! Nuff said......
DJ'Que 3:07 AM - 19 January, 2012
guessing game till 15hrs
caliguy 3:27 AM - 19 January, 2012
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If it ain't 3 channels they might aswell go back home in my opinion........the sampler NEEDS its own channel, period........


Not if a new version of SSL has autosync for the sampler or autobpm, whatever you call it


I still wanna be able to control my volume via the mixer not the mouse.........but yeah let's hope they add that.


Agreed. Must have a physical knob/slider to manually control samples'/loop decks' volume from the mixer. One reason I love the Empath.


Yup if that Empath had MIDI Id ditch my Ecler in a heart beat!! I can only pray that a MIDI Empath gets released tomorrow.........and if a soundcard was built-in OMFG!! Nuff said......

Empath, Empath, Empath! I dont care what you call it, as long as its an Empath clone with MIDI and dual or tripple (lol) USB!
J.J. 3:40 AM - 19 January, 2012
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You guys are funny. This was my interpretation of the leaked picture.

Ive been sitting back waiting to see when you were going let them know, JJ.

:)
caliguy 4:42 AM - 19 January, 2012
So whats the best place to watch the unveiling tomorrow? Where are online are you guys going to watch it?
HYDRO MATIC 2:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
+1

need sites that can be used at work...
[O/][iii][O/] 2:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
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need sites that can be used at work...
djcrap 4:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Live Video of the new Rane Mixer tomorrow Morning at 10am (PST)
www.stickam.com

Live Blog Update here at
www.agiprodj.com

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need sites that can be used at work...
djcrap 4:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
^^^^^ right stickam

www.stickam.com
Panotaker 4:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
I don't really care for another mixer. Just let me know if Numark announces a new replacement for the NS7.
HYDRO MATIC 4:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
serato.com
Billy18bm 4:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
@Panotaker... nobody cares about the NS7 lol or its crappy replacment
HYDRO MATIC 4:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 huh? not a fun number to say lol

not sure if that makes since though???

58 ( 5 ins 8 outs) (4 phono / line in - xlr trs aux stereo out)
62?!?!?!
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
bayimg.com
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
twitter.com!/alliemackay/status/160030195196235776/photo/1
HYDRO MATIC 4:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
hurl....god its ugly...eh oh well...lets hope it functions right...waiting for the specs...looks like ill need a faceplate a knobs for it day one
HYDRO MATIC 4:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
and*
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
p.twimg.com
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
seems it is called a sixty-two
HYDRO MATIC 4:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
that cant mean two outs!!!!!! only two??? maybe I have the numbering system wrong...


and uhm...forgive me I love the hard work and effort but 'PURPLE'????
HYDRO MATIC 4:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
oh never mind that looks like custom Ztrip there...phew...
HYDRO MATIC 4:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
looks like that 'FAKE' photo shop pic was DEAD ON!
nik39 4:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Ztrip showing a new Rane mixer??

imageshack.us
lvmez 4:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
looks good.
[O/][iii][O/] 4:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
Is that a 12" chassis? Looks bigger than 10" chassis from pic. If so, 12" for just 2 channels? :-/
lvmez 4:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
I was thinking about the same thing. that sucks, i'm going to have get a new case.
nik39 4:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
Who's that hottie in the pic?
djdannyd 4:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
No she's very petite.
damehype 4:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 as in 2 usb outs
damehype 4:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
It looks as big as my 68
Joee 4:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
don't tell me this is the mixer, that thing is BIG AS FU@K!!!!!
damehype 4:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
Maybe there will also be a true 57 replacement???
[O/][iii][O/] 4:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
Maybe the two people in pic with mixer are dwarfs which is making the chassis look enormous.
Joee 4:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
-------> man she almost can't hot that mixer it's so dammmm big
-------> imageshack.us
mutley 4:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Who's that hottie in the pic?

the ktla reporter.
Dj Scarface 4:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
NOOOOOOOOOO its it was pose to be the 58!! lol

looks cool where the video & the specs sheet?
Joee 4:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
can't hot= can't hold, she is hot.lol
DjWoody 4:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
That mixer looks as big as her torso! lol
Billy18bm 4:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
time for new case it seems>
BattleFunk 4:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
It looks like a 10" to me
Joee 4:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
rane better not drop the ball here !!!!!!
[O/][iii][O/] 4:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
What's with the childish purple crap smattered all over the control surface?
BattleFunk 4:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
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What's with the childish purple crap smattered all over the control surface?


Its called Branding
[O/][iii][O/] 4:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Lighting bolts? Seriously? :facepalm:
Billy18bm 4:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
its probably a special edition or something do you see where it says 62 Z.. they won't release every version like this i would almost guarantee that..
StreetFighta 4:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
Not impressed yet.hope they deliver on specs/feel
BattleFunk 4:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Lighting bolts? Seriously? :facepalm:


It is awful, I agree
[O/][iii][O/] 4:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
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What's with the childish purple crap smattered all over the control surface?


Its called Branding


Yeah, I guess that's one way to look at it. Branding for 12 year olds.
nik39 4:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
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What's with the childish purple crap smattered all over the control surface?

Someone said this is the Z-Trip special edition. Not sure whether this is correct.
BattleFunk 4:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
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What's with the childish purple crap smattered all over the control surface?


Its called Branding


Yeah, I guess that's one way to look at it. Branding for 12 year olds.


Yep, 1986 12 year olds
Joee 4:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
i'm hopping this mixer is from the 60's line 68, maybe 62

still waiting for a ttm 58sl
[O/][iii][O/] 4:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
Well, this day isn't starting off too well lol.
dj shadow from detroit 4:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
hoping its a 10 mixer , from what i see its 12.... lol @ myself thinking it would be called a 58
[O/][iii][O/] 4:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
I swear I wonder what these designers are smoking sometimes.
nik39 4:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
Why? What's wrong with the mixer?
Joee 4:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Why? What's wrong with the mixer?

TO BIG!!!!!!
DJ Frank Labate 4:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
Looks a little wide for a 2 channel mixer
lvmez 4:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
there is a lot of crying going on in this thread. full specs will be out in an hour. if you don't like mixer, don't buy it.
Joee 4:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I swear I wonder what these designers are smoking sometimes.

you seen the weed shirt!!!! ?????
[O/][iii][O/] 4:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Why? What's wrong with the mixer?


Dunno yet. TBD, but initially looks like a HUGE chassis for such a small number of channels, not to mention the stupid cheeseball kids' graphics ruining aesthetics.
dj shadow from detroit 4:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
they probably will not make anything close to the 57... this will be the new generation of mixers from rane / serato.
which to me is good.
Joee 4:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
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there is a lot of crying going on in this thread. full specs will be out in an hour. if you don't like mixer, don't buy it.

where mobile dj's, we want a mobile mix, not somthing we need a forklift to move,,,,,,LOL
dj shadow from detroit 4:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
the ztrip graphics where custom for him . he has been using this mixer for atleast a month i bet.... im sure the color scheme will be different.
AIRX ONE 4:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
look back in this thread ... i said it would be called the z or ttm z ...
[O/][iii][O/] 4:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
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the ztrip graphics where custom for him . he has been using this mixer for atleast a month i bet.... im sure the color scheme will be different.


God I hope so. That shit is horrendous. He should fire his graphics guy pronto.
djcrap 4:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
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TO BIG!!!!!!


This makes me laugh people are never satisfied ....... i mean maybe the reason it's big is because people where complaining about the 68 that the faders where to cramped together...and now they release some thing with space yea still complain.....lol
[O/][iii][O/] 4:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
It's weird because the layout looks like it has tons of wasted space yet cramped at the same time.
DJ Frank Labate 4:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
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It's weird because the layout looks like it has tons of wasted space yet cramped at the same time.

I could see throwing two dicers on both bottom corners
nik39 4:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Why? What's wrong with the mixer?

TO BIG!!!!!!


This makes me laugh people are never satisfied ....... i mean maybe the reason it's big is because people where complaining about the 68 that the faders where to cramped together...and now they release some thing with space yea still complain.....lol

+1

And who gives a efff about the grafx. I want a mixer to perform well.
[O/][iii][O/] 4:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
If it had a third channel it'd probably be perfect, but initial impressions are is that it's just weird. So hard to tell from pics (except that purple crap is a definite flub).
lvmez 4:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
it has wasted space in the bottom because the top is filled.
[O/][iii][O/] 4:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
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And who gives a efff about the grafx. I want a mixer to perform well.


Look, if I shell out big bucks for a Porsche 911 Turbo for the performance I don't what stupid punk kid graphics painted on the hood.
dj shadow from detroit 4:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
i think it looks dope. i cant wait to get one.... will wait for a while after the release to the public. wait for them to iron little stuff out. but im impressed as always rane / serato did a great job..... just need to fix keylock and a few other little things. other then that im very happy.
Joee 4:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Why? What's wrong with the mixer?

TO BIG!!!!!!


This makes me laugh people are never satisfied ....... i mean maybe the reason it's big is because people where complaining about the 68 that the faders where to cramped together...and now they release some thing with space yea still complain.....lol

true but the 68 is 4 chan, no need to be so big for 2 chan. mixer
[O/][iii][O/] 4:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
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it has wasted space in the bottom because the top is filled.


Right, like it's not distributed well.
HYDRO MATIC 4:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
Putting anything near the faders sucks for most quick hip hop or turtabalist guys...
The Return of Dj Sparky 4:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
you don't get it thats his custom one there not going to have that graphics on them
HYDRO MATIC 4:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
turntabalist*
lvmez 4:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Putting anything near the faders sucks for most quick hip hop or turtabalist guys...



+1
dj shadow from detroit 4:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
I agree HYDRO MATIC , I like the space.
[O/][iii][O/] 4:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
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you don't get it thats his custom one there not going to have that graphics on them


already mentioned and addressed above
[O/][iii][O/] 4:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
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turntabalist*


ok, I can see that, but wow, that's a LOT of empty real estate
dj shadow from detroit 4:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
i think it looks dope. i cant wait to get one.... will wait for a while after the release to the public. wait for them to iron little stuff out. but im impressed as always rane / serato did a great job..... just need to fix keylock and a few other little things. other then that im very happy.
dj shadow from detroit 4:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
the ztrip graphics where custom for him . he has been using this mixer for atleast a month i bet.... im sure the color scheme will be different.
dj shadow from detroit 4:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
they probably will not make anything close to the 57... this will be the new generation of mixers from rane / serato.
which to me is good.
HYDRO MATIC 4:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
look at the 57....

top section is all work...buttons knobs and all...bottom is free and open...

I even change my stance when I play based off what section Im in...
HYDRO MATIC 4:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
why are people playing the "I need to post in every thread game"...theres 3 threads all with the same exact people pretty much and there copying and pasting the same lines over and over lol


just put a link to your favorite one guys come on lol
Dj Scarface 4:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
like the look.... i need a price, specs, & video before i fall in luv.
dj shadow from detroit 5:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
hoping its a 10 mixer , from what i see its 12.... lol @ myself thinking it would be called a 58
[O/][iii][O/] 5:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
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why are people playing the "I need to post in every thread game"...theres 3 threads all with the same exact people pretty much and there copying and pasting the same lines over and over lol


just put a link to your favorite one guys come on lol


I had two windows open and couldn't see the headers. Sorry.
djcrap 5:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
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TO BIG!!!!!!


This makes me laugh people are never satisfied ....... i mean maybe the reason it's big is because people where complaining about the 68 that the faders where to cramped together...and now they release some thing with space yea still complain.....lol

true but the 68 is 4 chan, no need to be so big for 2 chan. mixer


ok if there is no need to be so big for 2 chan mixer

now imagine if all those buttons on the new 62 at the top to the mixer were to big cramped on the TTm57 size mixer that all yall want.
is that what would satisfy you...lol
djcrap 5:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
^^^i mean is already worse as it is right now already with so many buttons on the new 62.
HYDRO MATIC 5:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
VIDEO-VIDEO-VIDEO-VIDEO-VIDEO

are you guys looking for video controls? or video out?
Joee 5:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Why? What's wrong with the mixer?

TO BIG!!!!!!


This makes me laugh people are never satisfied ....... i mean maybe the reason it's big is because people where complaining about the 68 that the faders where to cramped together...and now they release some thing with space yea still complain.....lol

true but the 68 is 4 chan, no need to be so big for 2 chan. mixer


ok if there is no need to be so big for 2 chan mixer

now imagine if all those buttons on the new 62 at the top to the mixer were to big cramped on the TTm57 size mixer that all yall want.
is that what would satisfy you...lol

true again, i'm a simple guy all i want is a new ttm 57 with sl2/usb2 built in
Joshua Carl 5:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
man, a third channel would have fit SOOOOOO nice in all that real estate :)
djcrap 5:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
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[O/][iii][O/] 5:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
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man, a third channel would have fit SOOOOOO nice in all that real estate :)


Imagine three rotaries lined up in there :drool:
dj shadow from detroit 5:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
the sampler needs auto sync also
HYDRO MATIC 5:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
rotaries...why not use the gains?
The Return of Dj Sparky 5:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
according to z-trips twitter the Z model is launching in Feb
dj shadow from detroit 5:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
would be nice if they had an update for us also.... on the software.
aireyc 5:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
p.twimg.com
Dj Scarface 5:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
im look just for video of it!!

video control would be a nice reason to buy if they dont raw dog us on the price
Dj Scarface 5:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
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+10000000000000
Joshua Carl 5:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
the gains are post-headphone fader.

(meaning, you kill the gain... you kill the track in your headphones... make it pretty hard to mix)
Audio1 5:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
I love how every new item that Serato releases, half of you folks hate it from the get go. Lovely.
djcrap 5:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
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yea like a mini third channel for master sampler volume control.........
HYDRO MATIC 5:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
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the gains are post-headphone fader.

(meaning, you kill the gain... you kill the track in your headphones... make it pretty hard to mix)



Do you use split cue?
Joshua Carl 5:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
none of my mixers have ever had split cue... personally....

Monitor + Speaker.
Joshua Carl 5:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
oops, Monitor speaker + Heaphones.
HandsomeRobDJ 5:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I swear I wonder what these designers are smoking sometimes.

They wear pictures of it on their shirts. Don't you remember?
DJ Pullout 5:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
NO! Then it would be too cramped. lol
HYDRO MATIC 5:13 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Monitor + Speaker.

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same here... guess I see what you mean by the gains bieng pre fader...


do you mix EDM style music mainly?
Joshua Carl 5:13 PM - 19 January, 2012
your too cramed! lol
dj shadow from detroit 5:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
the sampler needs auto sync also
ninos 5:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
Just finineshed my math final what the fuck is going on in here hahahaha
[O/][iii][O/] 5:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Just finineshed my math final what the fuck is going on in here hahahaha


cheers n' jeers
willythekidd 5:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Just finineshed my math final what the fuck is going on in here hahahaha


standard internet bullshit...haven't missed much.
DJDeluchi 5:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
when its released i hope it aint got that ztrip logo on it i respect the man but dont want his name on my shit
Mike_P 5:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I love how every new item that Serato releases, half of you folks hate it from the get go. Lovely.

bunch a ballerinas I swear. Complaining about the graphics? Lol! What they don't match your skinny jeans?
[O/][iii][O/] 5:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
I was hoping they'd release a Hello Kitty edition.
aireyc 5:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
A-Trak probably switched to Traktor because this isn't a 63-A.
bkhive 5:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
Why would it have custom graphics on it? Bunch of morons on here who really have no clue.
Joshua Carl 5:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
yeah... there was a good 5 year period when I mixed mainly edm.
generally on Rane 2016, Urei, Vestax R1,allen&Heath V6

Ive tried my damndest to be as smooth and articulate with a sublte cobinations
of the line fader + EQs + Gain trim as you can be with a rotary knob.
but even on the smallest slope/gate on line faders most of the business happens
on the top 20% of the upfader real estate (Between 8-10)

after a fair amount of time on both Ive come to the conclusion in a absolutely perfect world,
the mixer would have a assignable cross fader, and a snap-in/snap out fader & Rotary kit which u could swap in/out in under 5 minutes....
ahhhhh to dream!!!!!!!!!!!

on topic.
I have 100% faith in Rane (My bank account for the last 15 years shows that)
and 100% faith in Ztrip.... been a big supports since i saw him and P @ the WMC promoing uneasy listening.....epic set.

while alot of us want a empath sl3.
Im sure this thing is dope as hell.... sans le purple logo...
HandsomeRobDJ 5:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Why would it have custom graphics on it? Bunch of morons on here who really have no clue.


Did I see a post hoping for auto sync?
DJ Pullout 5:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
I was hoping they'd release a Hello Kitty edition.



hahahahahaha.

www.izismile.com
blackavenger 5:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
man, a third channel would have fit SOOOOOO nice in all that real estate :)

indeed.
aireyc 5:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
Two new mixers. 61 and 62. twitpic.com
Joee 5:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
A-Trak probably switched to Traktor because this isn't a 63-A.

lmfao
DJ Pullout 5:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Two new mixers. 61 and 62. twitpic.com



NICE
DJDeluchi 5:26 PM - 19 January, 2012
ohhhhh 2
DJ Pullout 5:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
So I wonder which one we are looking at and if the other is a 3 CHANNEL!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DJTJ 5:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
61. Now I'm excited
Joee 5:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Two new mixers. 61 and 62. twitpic.com

thank you, i just hope the 61 isn't BIG nh
DJ Pullout 5:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
that would explain the space most likely on this one that we have a pic of. Same body but different mechanics in an upgraded model.
Mike_P 5:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
I hear the 61 is a one channel mixer.
HandsomeRobDJ 5:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Two new mixers. 61 and 62. twitpic.com

No pics?
blackavenger 5:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
I hear the 61 is a one channel mixer.

LOL
HYDRO MATIC 5:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
ok im logggig off before i get fired for sitting here just pressing the refresh button all day lol
[O/][iii][O/] 5:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
The model naming/numbering structure Rane uses never seems to make any sense.
djcrap 5:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
A-Trak probably switched to Traktor because this isn't a 63-A.

lmfao


so he was mad that Z-trip got a 62 named after him but there was no 63-A named after him.

interesting.....
DJ Pullout 5:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
They should be going over them right now in the booth. Noon release time. Anyone have a buddy there right now? Literally should be on display for the past 25 mins....
DJDeluchi 5:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
any live video feeds on this announcement or just pics and blog stuff
Joshua Carl 5:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
theres a stick-cam feed....scroll up
BERTO 5:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
The model naming/numbering structure Rane uses never seems to make any sense.

Dude why are you being such a critical baby ? The color he name blah blah, start your own mixer company bro quit crying
ninos 5:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
Ahhhhhhh skeeeeet here we go!!!
The Return of Dj Sparky 5:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
well it seems there is another mixer the sixty-one

t.co
Joee 5:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
why not the rane 69, it just sound sexy.lol
BattleFunk 5:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
well it seems there is another mixer the sixty-one

t.co


scroll up - late to the party
DJDeluchi 5:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
theres a stick-cam feed....scroll up


cheers badman
citi 5:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Just finineshed my math final what the fuck is going on in here hahahaha


Where have you been? We've known about the mixer since Monday. Namm started on the 16th. :-)
The Return of Dj Sparky 5:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
well it seems there is another mixer the sixty-one

t.co


scroll up - late to the party


:)
cant wait to see this one, i bet it's just a mixer and no sl built in
Dj Scarface 5:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
61 = new 57 ?????
Joee 5:38 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
61 = new 57 ?????

crossing my fingers, if not i'm switching to traktor!!!!!!
boabmatic 5:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
agiprodj have posted up on their facebook a ustream link not stickam as above?

www.ustream.tv
echa1945mf 5:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
ok i just got some gossip of Pioneer Serato Mixer ????
XRM5 5:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
Bet the 61 and 62 are both 2-channel, just with & without buttons.
BERTO 5:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
The tension builds!
Rane, Support
Shaun W 5:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Hi :)
BERTO 5:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Bet the 61 and 62 are both 2-channel, just with & without buttons.

Rotary and not....
BERTO 5:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Hi :)

Hello
Joshua Carl 5:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Devils Advocate:

what if its a 62 without the SL2/SL3 counterpart in it... Kinda like the 56S
(Seeing how the SL2 and SL4 are kinda new...)

That'd be heartbreak.
but I can imagine everyone who JUST bough a new SL box... "DAAAAAMNIT!"
Rane, Support
Shaun W 5:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
What's all the excitement about?
Rane, Support
Chad S. 5:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
hey. dunno
Joee 5:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
ok i just got some gossip of Pioneer Serato Mixer ????

do tell
bboysupafly 5:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
What's all the excitement about?

you already know!
Joee 5:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Devils Advocate:

what if its a 62 without the SL2/SL3 counterpart in it... Kinda like the 56S
(Seeing how the SL2 and SL4 are kinda new...)

That'd be heartbreak.
but I can imagine everyone who JUST bough a new SL box... "DAAAAAMNIT!"

argggggggg,shhhhhhhhh, ahhhhhhhhhh,

i don't like you no more .........LOl
DJ Pullout 5:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
CHAD!!!!!

REVEAL TO US NOW!!!!!

YOU CANT HOLD US HOSTAGE FOREVER!!!!!
Joshua Carl 5:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
American Audio & Gemini are teaming up for some new hotness.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 5:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
I officially know nothing (until after 10am lol)
echa1945mf 5:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
ok i just got some gossip of Pioneer Serato Mixer ????

do tell


still on bbm session with one of the pioneer guys , hopefully hes telling LOL
Joee 5:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
What's all the excitement about?

Quote:
hey. dunno

FUNNYYYY guys there
nik39 5:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
I officially know nothing (until after 10am lol)

haha
[O/][iii][O/] 5:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
The model naming/numbering structure Rane uses never seems to make any sense.

Dude why are you being such a critical baby ? The color he name blah blah, start your own mixer company bro quit crying


Dude, this is a forum comprised of current and potential customers of goods listed here. We have a right to by critical. It's called customer feedback.
DJ Pullout 5:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
20 min countdown......
Joee 5:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
I officially know nothing (until after 10am lol)

it's 12;44 here
damehype 5:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Devils Advocate:

what if its a 62 without the SL2/SL3 counterpart in it... Kinda like the 56S
(Seeing how the SL2 and SL4 are kinda new...)

That'd be heartbreak.
but I can imagine everyone who JUST bough a new SL box... "DAAAAAMNIT!"


The 6-x series are all Serato mixers... Otherwise, why would they be doing a comparison
nik39 5:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
twitpic.com

WTF.. TWO new mixers!!
BERTO 5:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
Easter time
nik39 5:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
Rane 61 and 62!!!
Rane, Support
Shaun W 5:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
I officially know nothing (until after 10am lol)

it's 12;44 here

doh! 10am standard NAMM time ;)
dj_soo 5:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
The model naming/numbering structure Rane uses never seems to make any sense.

Dude why are you being such a critical baby ? The color he name blah blah, start your own mixer company bro quit crying


Dude, this is a forum comprised of current and potential customers of goods listed here. We have a right to by critical. It's called customer feedback.


Yea, totally would have bought if it were called a 58, but because they named it a 62, my money is going to pioneer!
Joee 5:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
I officially know nothing (until after 10am lol)

it's 12;44 here

doh! 10am standard NAMM time ;)

12 ;46 now you can tell....lol
ninos 5:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
Untz untz untz untz untz untz im ao fricking excited omg
Joshua Carl 5:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
well the 57 is the Serato mixer.
and the 56 is the Serato less mixer.

so 62 is the Serato mixer
61 is the serato less (for all the SL2/3/4 folks)
by that rational...
mixer model # minus 1

again... I am completely talking out of my ass here.
but it sorta stands to a bit of reason
echa1945mf 5:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
Pioneer DJM-S1 ,looks like its true , the guy keep going in circles but yeah i gotta feeling its true (pioneer probably gonna hate me for this) LMAO !!!
AIRX ONE 5:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.facebook.com
bboysupafly 5:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
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itical. It's called

don't work
bboysupafly 5:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.facebook.com

don't work
djcrap 5:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this is driving me insane

these are the longest 10 minutes of namm count down
Dj.Mojo 5:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
Here are the prices for the mixers in Germany:
Sixty-One € 1.499 inkl. Mwst.
Sixty-Two € 2.095 inkl. Mwst.
Sixty-Two Z € 2.195 inkl. Mwst.
Joee 5:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
well the 57 is the Serato mixer.
and the 56 is the Serato less mixer.

so 62 is the Serato mixer
61 is the serato less (for all the SL2/3/4 folks)
by that rational...
mixer model # minus 1

again... I am completely talking out of my ass here.
but it sorta stands to a bit of reason


man i hope your wrong, that 62 is to big, but it does make sense
damehype 5:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
well the 57 is the Serato mixer.
and the 56 is the Serato less mixer.

so 62 is the Serato mixer
61 is the serato less (for all the SL2/3/4 folks)
by that rational...
mixer model # minus 1

again... I am completely talking out of my ass here.
but it sorta stands to a bit of reason


Only problem with that is why would they need to do a comparison between all 6x series mixers. This leads me to believe they're all Serato mixers
AIRX ONE 5:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.facebook.com new link
aireyc 5:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.facebook.com new link


SPLIT CUE, YES!
djcsmv 5:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.facebook.com new link


dope!!
blackavenger 5:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.facebook.com

Whoa....that color scheme, even for a "special edition", is strange looking.
ninos 5:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
Oh my lanta
echa1945mf 5:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
and a DJM850 ........ man good to have friends in the right places LOL
Audio1 5:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
The tension builds!
Dont blow your load.
Joee 5:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.facebook.com new link

looks cool, may no be so big after all
dj_soo 5:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
Wonder if there's any difference between the ztrip edition other than branding...
nik39 5:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
twitpic.com
Quote:
Wonder if there's any difference between the ztrip edition other than branding...

+1
Audio1 5:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
"Every DJ dreams of designing a mixer. The new Rane 62Z is my dream realized. It has everything I want in a mixer. Only Rane and Serato could help build such a versatile machine and interface." -Z-TRIP
(FROM Z-Trip's own newsletter)
damehype 5:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
I don't want no other dude's name on my mixer lol
DJDeluchi 5:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
I don't want no other dude's name on my mixer lol


Damm Straight
citi 5:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
American Audio & Gemini are teaming up for some new hotness.


That's not possible. New: yes. Hotness: no
aireyc 5:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
The 61 looks like the 57...
DjWoody 5:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
It does have split cue. There!
Dj Scarface 5:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
The 61 looks like the 57...



PICS!!!!!!!
Joee 5:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
The 61 looks like the 57...

YESSSS
djcrap 5:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
This is were it's at for a pic at what's going on at live namm

www.ustream.tv
Audio1 5:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net
victor_M 5:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
I've gotten yelled at twice at work...let's get this show on the road!!!!

freaking picture is sweet.
Joee 6:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
I've gotten yelled at twice at work...let's get this show on the road!!!!

freaking picture is sweet.

GET BACK TO WORK LOL
aireyc 6:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
61 looks like a bedroom DJ's version of the 57. 62 has dual USB. Nice.
boabmatic 6:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
is it not 10am yet?
AIRX ONE 6:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.facebook.com
aj5000 6:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.facebook.com
[O/][iii][O/] 6:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
Hope it's treated how they treated the Empath in regards to offering the Grandmaster Flash version with all his gold and extra writing on it and then a basic tool version without all the extra flair garb.
aj5000 6:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
mine is of the 61
boabmatic 6:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
rane facebook just updated pics
bboysupafly 6:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
rane.com
dj_soo 6:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
wheres' the stream?
aj5000 6:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.facebook.com
victor_M 6:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
someone give me a cigarette!!!
bboysupafly 6:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
rane.com
DjWoody 6:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
The 61 looks sexy. The 62, looks, confused... lol
DJ Remy USA 6:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
i think it looks very kool not sure I like the rotary caps cause I hate the rotaries on the 68 but everything here looks like we getting most of what we asked for
bboysupafly 6:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 back:
rane.com
lvmez 6:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
getting a 62.
bboysupafly 6:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 front:
rane.com
bboysupafly 6:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 top
rane.com
citi 6:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
The 61 looks sexy. The 62, looks, confused... lol

At first I was too, but it looks like they removed ALL cue points and hot key functionality from the 61. It really is a 56s updated with a sl box. 62 for me.
djcrap 6:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.ustream.tv

they are live right now
Audio1 6:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.ustream.tv

they are live right now
just crashed
DJ Pullout 6:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
yeah and shit is freezing
Dj Scarface 6:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
The 61 looks sexy. The 62, looks, confused... lol


HAHA
bboysupafly 6:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 detail description picture:
rane.com
bboysupafly 6:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
61 detail description picture:
rane.com
djcrap 6:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
mine is working okay

they at the Rane both and same is speaking right now
DJDeluchi 6:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
im watching it now there talking and seem to be having tech issues with the mixer currently sam from serato is currently talking
damehype 6:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
I bet DJ Technic will be getting the Z Trip version lol
damehype 6:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
Techniq... my bad
[O/][iii][O/] 6:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
Wellp, if this is it from Rane then there's nothing here for me :-(

Glad some of you are getting what you want :-)

Hopefully 2013 will address more of the EDM side of things.
citi 6:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
The 61 looks sexy. The 62, looks, confused... lol

At first I was too, but it looks like they removed ALL cue points and hot key functionality from the 61. It really is a 56s updated with a sl box. 62 for me.


Just looked at the rane site. That is exactly what they've done. That 61 better be like $1000 and the 62 $1599. We'll see
phatbob 6:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
People been wanting a 3 channel mixer for so long.

What have Rane bought us? A pair of two channel mixers. Hilarious!
DJ Pullout 6:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
Price on a 62?
DJ Pullout 6:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
this stream blows. lol
The Return of Dj Sparky 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
offline aghhhh
lvmez 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
People been wanting a 3 channel mixer for so long.

What have Rane bought us? A pair of two channel mixers. Hilarious!



they know what sells. it's business first.
Dj Scarface 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
NO THE LIVE FEED CRASHED!!!!!
nik39 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
Whats up with the street prices for these bad babies?
DJ Pullout 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
yup. oh well. Would like to know a price on the 62
slimmjimm 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
Agreed on 3ch or rotary fail, 62 is way cluttered up top, may consider a 61.
lvmez 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
any date for mixer yet?
DJ Remy USA 6:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
that mixer looks dope the filter sweeps its everything a scratch DJ who plays open format type events would love. Its got built in fx which I know are post fader. I wonder what the fx routing is like this mixer looks awesome. Looks like the same fader which is good. Everything looks sweet,

Serato just make sure the mixer is backward compatiable with at least 2.2 and up please please please
bboysupafly 6:13 PM - 19 January, 2012
DJ Vajra on youtube using the 61
serato.com
djpuma_gemini 6:13 PM - 19 January, 2012
The 61 doesn't have XLR out
citi 6:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
it says the SP6 is on an independent aux channel. There's your 3rd channel right there.

Quote:
A typical setup includes operation with two Scratch Live DVS channels, SP-6 sample player on an independent USB Aux playback channel and Software effects enabled on the USB digital insert in the FlexFx loop. This setup also allows recording PGM1 post-fader, PGM2 post-fader and the Main mix
Matt Hite 6:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
Rane web site updated with new product info...
www.rane.com
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
For details > rane.com < TTM 62

TTM 61 > rane.com
phatbob 6:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
That's dope how you need a little stand behind the 61 to put your Dicers on.
boabmatic 6:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
serato.com
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
it says the SP6 is on an independent aux channel. There's your 3rd channel right there.

Correct! With dedicated FLexFX routing, sweep filter, level control and independent AUX cue :)
nik39 6:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
That's dope how you need a little stand behind the 61 to put your Dicers on.

You mean cute, eh? ;)
Matt Hite 6:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
Now we need to hear back whether the same crappy buttons are being used that are on the 68
dj_soo 6:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
yea, i'm getting this mixer. Just need to pay down the credit card first :-(
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Now we need to hear back whether the same crappy buttons are being used that are on the 68

Different buttons and switches :)
dj_soo 6:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
probably means the bridge can be routed to the aux channel too...
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
probably means the bridge can be routed to the aux channel too...

Yes
DJDeluchi 6:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Now we need to hear back whether the same crappy buttons are being used that are on the 68

Different buttons and switches :)


Dude whats the prices?
lvmez 6:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
we need release date?
DJ.ReFRESH 6:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
that mixer looks dope the filter sweeps its everything a scratch DJ who plays open format type events would love.


well put. i've been holding off on a new mixer for awhile now and this update looks to be worth the wait
nik39 6:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
Where are the prices?
DjWoody 6:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
DJ Vajra on youtube using the 61
serato.com


Are they selling the new mixer or the dicers?

lol
aireyc 6:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
FEBRUARY hell yes I'm stoked.
AIRX ONE 6:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
price ????
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Now we need to hear back whether the same crappy buttons are being used that are on the 68

Different buttons and switches :)


Dude whats the prices?

I'm not 100% sure yet, sorry. I'm sure they'll be posted in a bit :)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
Yes, February :)
slimmjimm 6:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
The 61 doesn't have XLR out


Looks like balanced 1/4"
wadup 6:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
MSRP????
Matt Hite 6:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Now we need to hear back whether the same crappy buttons are being used that are on the 68

Different buttons and switches :)


yay! good man!
lvmez 6:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
FEBRUARY hell yes I'm stoked.


really? great.
ninos 6:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
SELLING A RANE TTM 57sl. 800$



Hahhaha just jokes



But damn sexy ass looking new mixers
lvmez 6:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
$750
DJ Pullout 6:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 baby!
DJDeluchi 6:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
if it is February my 57 is going on ebay tonight i can live without it for a few weeks gonna need to sell it while the price is still good
DJ Remy USA 6:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
Im not selling my 57 but the pioneer 707 and my spair set of techs are going up for sale as soon as this baby hits the streets it looks very promising Im not interested in the 61 and peeps who already have a 57 prolly wont be either
djpuma_gemini 6:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
Does the 61 has SL built in like the 57 or do you need to purchase an SL2/3/4?
Eric N 6:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
I dunno... at first I thought that too, but after looking at all of the specs, the Sixty One with a dope MIDI controller might be a better and less cluttered way to go. It still has the SP6 routed to the aux...
Eric N 6:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Built in
haze324 6:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
^ it has Serato stamped on it.
nik39 6:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Does the 61 has SL built in like the 57 or do you need to purchase an SL2/3/4?

Built in SL of course!
victor_M 6:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Its got the box built in. Just no second usb or onboard effect
Kepik 6:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
yea, i'm getting this mixer. Just need to pay down the credit card first :-(


I paid off my credit card...looks like I need to put myself in a little debt again!

Quote:
Quote:
Now we need to hear back whether the same crappy buttons are being used that are on the 68

Different buttons and switches :)


+10000000000

These new buttons, could they be retro-fitted on the sixty-eight?
aireyc 6:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Heads up Rane guys, on rane.com if you click description then click the picture, it shows you the enlarged pic of the SIXTY-EIGHT instead of the 62.
phatbob 6:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
So the 61 is like a 57, just with a updated soundcard and lots of other features removed.

So it will be substantially cheaper than a 57, right?

COURSE IT WILL
Billy18bm 6:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
im upset.. no "load" button.. every time i hit the "load with the spinning scroll knobs" it spins and loads the wrong song. Is everything midi configurable?
boabmatic 6:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
serato.com
DjWoody 6:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
So with these new mixers, that means there's a new version of Serato.... right?
dj_soo 6:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
61 looks to have sl built in
haze324 6:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
What do you guys think prices will be

61 - 1299.00
62 - 1899.00
Tururu 6:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.agiprodj.com
$1600
DJ Remy USA 6:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
im excited I cant barely think at work anymore.
haze324 6:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
What do you guys think prices will be

61 - 1299.00
62 - 1799.00

Quote:
So with these new mixers, that means there's a new version of Serato.... right?


Is there anything being announced from Serato at their Booth? Or just the two Rane products.
Billy18bm 6:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
too much for the 62
djpuma_gemini 6:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
Sorry but the 62 is not worth $1999
www.agiprodj.com
DJ Remy USA 6:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.agiprodj.com
$1600


thats it if thats all I know I can get that easy from american musical supply for 100 off selling my old I can trade up for this and prolly only spend 200-300 out of pocket
djpuma_gemini 6:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
I'd pay a little more than I paid for my 57, which means I'd pay the price for the 61 to get the 62 MAX
DeeJayRobz 6:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
Anybody wanna sell me a 57? Haha. Man being a low budget DJ sucks. Is there any MIDI on the faders for of the 61?
DjWoody 6:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
Can you do more than one effect at a time?
Dj-Pyro 6:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
Damn, $2,000 for the 62! That's pretty steep.
Dj-Pyro 6:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Can you do more than one effect at a time?

yes
Steve Dub. 6:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
Damn, 2k. I'm still buying it but $1500 is the price it should be.
phatbob 6:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
Bless Rane, all focused on turntablists in 2012.

Did you miss a memo? They stopped making Technics already!

Where's your Itch controller, fools?

No wonder Pioneer and Allen & Heath continue to eat your lunch in Europe and most of the world.

I predict by next year Chad will be giving a Nokia-esque burning platform speech, shortly before Rane announce their first midi controller 2 years late. ;-)
AIRX ONE 6:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
ttm 57 for sale with x1 and hand job 1,999 ..lol
DJDeluchi 6:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
should work out to be about £1300 in the uk i will sell my 57 for £600 and have cash for the rest :-)
Joee 6:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
ttm 57 for sale with x1 and hand job 1,999 ..lol

LMFAOOOOOOO,,,,,,hahahaaaaaaaaaahahahaha
djpuma_gemini 6:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Damn, 2k. I'm still buying it but $1500 is the price it should be.


I'm gonna go knock on rane's doors on Feb 1st and see if I can get one for that price.
Joee 6:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
ttm 57 for sale with x1 and hand job 1,999 ..lol

LMFAOOOOOOO,,,,,,hahahaaaaaaaaaahahahaha
citi 6:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
Both the 61 and 62 should have been $300 cheaper.

$999 = 61
$1599 = 62
DJ Remy USA 6:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
fuck it Im selling my 57 my 707 and my spair 1200s that should give me my money right plus a lil more. Ima sell my mbox as well
djpuma_gemini 6:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
well that's also advertised price.

The 57 was advertised for $1499, but you could always get it for $1200 at many places.
So, I'm assuming the unadvertised price will be lower.
Just gotta call around since they won't list their lowest price on the internet
DJ Remy USA 6:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Bless Rane, all focused on turntablists in 2012.

Did you miss a memo? They stopped making Technics already!

Where's your Itch controller, fools?

No wonder Pioneer and Allen & Heath continue to eat your lunch in Europe and most of the world.

I predict by next year Chad will be giving a Nokia-esque burning platform speech, shortly before Rane announce their first midi controller 2 years late. ;-)


rane and serato is the only guys who represent the tablist. Let the other guys rep for the other stuff. Ima rane/serato DJ and thats because Im a tablist
Dj Scarface 6:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
price ????



+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
djpuma_gemini 6:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
I'll sell my m5g's, 57 and macbook pro and then I can get a 62. Won't be able to dj, but at least I'll have the newest mixer.
The Return of Dj Sparky 6:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
prices here,
www.agiprodj.com
Dj Scarface 6:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
we need release date?


+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
The Return of Dj Sparky 6:38 PM - 19 January, 2012
release feb 1st supposedly
DjWoody 6:38 PM - 19 January, 2012
I'm thinking of selling my left nut. lol
haze324 6:38 PM - 19 January, 2012
That's pretty steep --- for the list price of the 61, you can get a DJM 900 that's Traktor Certified. Think about that one. Wonder how much market of the market these mixer will penetrate at that price. The mixers also don't reveal anything that could be in the near future for Serato updates either.
[O/][iii][O/] 6:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Where's your Itch controller, fools?

No wonder Pioneer and Allen & Heath continue to eat your lunch in Europe and most of the world.


This was my biggest hope. I told myself "This is the year Rane FINALLY steps up".

:PriceIsRightSadTromboneSound:
dj-freestyle 6:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
anything on the new pioneer mixer
bboysupafly 6:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
Here's a pre-recorder product demo video:

www.facebook.com
CMOS 6:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
Woohoo finally gonna get me a 57 cheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone else not feeling cue buttons and a knob after coming from a fader?
phatbob 6:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
rane and serato is the only guys who represent the tablist. Let the other guys rep for the other stuff. Ima rane/serato DJ and thats because Im a tablist


I respect that they are supporting the artform.

I just think in the current market to not be branching out is very foolhardy.
DJWALDO 6:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Sorry but the 62 is not worth $1999
www.agiprodj.com



and the 57 isn't worth $1799


did you pay that?

doubtful

let the damn thing hit the store and see what the price will actually be then use the same connections you use to get everything else get get it for even less.
AIRX ONE 6:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
ebays all ready going off with newly listed ttms lol
DjWoody 6:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
anything on the new pioneer mixer


Pioneer Offers Limited Edition
CDJ-2000 Digital Player and DJM-900nexus
DJ Mixer in Brilliant White Color

Watchwww.youtube.com
ral 6:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
selling my kidney. any takers?
FunkyRob 6:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
they totally have room for a 3rd channel.

Where the Sixty-Three?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
Here's a quickie bullet list for those interested :)
Quote:
Soundcard:

2 USB ports supporting two high quality 12in/ 8out, 24bit/48k, sound cards
Ultra low latency Core Audio and ASIO drivers for third party applications

Software Controls:

USB A & B easy control switching and simplified DJ swapping function
Dedicated library, track loading and looping controls that follow USB A and USB B control assignments
Dedicated Soft Touch hot cue and SP-6 control with USB A and USB B SP-6 control assignment option
AUX USB channel for SP-6 output with dedicated filter control
All mixer controls MIDI map-able within third-party applications
MIDI mapped side panel/"deck" controls and MIDI mapped cue controls follow channel USB assignments

Mixer Features:

Mic input line level option
Mic talk-over function
Intelligent cueing system
Reset mixer (effects and etc) to factory default function
Fader calibration and calibration diagnostic test function
Selectable channel filter and AUX filter resonance high/low cut (Low to High resonance slider for each filter)
MIDI clock send and tracking

Built-in, External and USB Insert Effects Routing:

Selectable built-in effects options:
Filter:
HP Sync Hi
HP Sync Low
LP Sync Hi
LP Sync Low
Flanger:
Positive feedback
Negative feedback
Echo:
Regular echo
Hold echo
Low cut echo (20Hz to 20kHz selectable cut point)
Low cut hold echo (20Hz to 20kHz selectable cut point)

Hold echo and Hold Echo (Low Cut) suspend/freeze effect
USB Insert for Post fader software and VST effects routing
Stack-able internal, external and USB insert effect routing
Dj Scarface 6:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
anything on the new pioneer mixer


Pioneer Offers Limited Edition
CDJ-2000 Digital Player and DJM-900nexus
DJ Mixer in Brilliant White Color

Watchwww.youtube.com


nice! BUT I NEED MORE rane serato info... wearing my twitter & fbook out
dj_soo 6:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
they totally have room for a 3rd channel.

Where the Sixty-Three?


meh, run a midi controller to control the pitch of the sp-6, put a HP filter on there and you pretty much have your 3rd deck.
Dj Scarface 6:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
selling my kidney. any takers?



hahaha ill trade you for the money...
DJDeluchi 6:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.facebook.com


anyone else seen this?
DJDeluchi 6:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
its not rane related btw
haze324 6:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
^ ugly and just a mock up
AIRX ONE 6:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
www.facebook.com


anyone else seen this?

looks like a pile of crap
echa1945mf 6:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
on the pioneer side , yes on a DJM850 and CDJ850K (with link capability) and a 80% chance of a 2 channel Serato certifed mixer
DJDeluchi 6:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
i dont look great but if it has proper mpc pads imagine the possibilities when its gets the bridge
HYDRO MATIC 6:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
Looks like theres not "lip" to hang the mixer from

on the 56,57,61 the mixer body stops and inch from each edge however it goes flush to the edge of the top plate now...

so tack on the price of a battle brigde or other device as well...

NOT THE BUSSINESS

(id rather a long mixer than to wide)
DJDeluchi 6:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
it dont look great*
HYDRO MATIC 6:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
the pics actually look WAYYYYYY better on the serato page...

I wouldnt mind the limited one if Ztrip wasnt stamped in the middle maybe off to the side...

Im in for a 62...possibly two if the price comes down...

now to get rid of both 57's
jevo9 6:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
the 62 z is dope.... i just dont like that purple
Dj Scarface 6:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Looks like theres not "lip" to hang the mixer from

on the 56,57,61 the mixer body stops and inch from each edge however it goes flush to the edge of the top plate now...

so tack on the price of a battle brigde or other device as well...

NOT THE BUSSINESS

(id rather a long mixer than to wide)


when my fund are right there better be lip or fit in the same 57 road ready
lvmez 6:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
there is going to 100 57's on ebay and craigslist tonight.
DJDeluchi 6:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
mine is going on uk ebay has no used 57's currently
Dj Scarface 6:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
i for see 57 going for crack head prices once these hit the store...
HYDRO MATIC 7:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Looks like theres not "lip" to hang the mixer from

on the 56,57,61 the mixer body stops and inch from each edge however it goes flush to the edge of the top plate now...

so tack on the price of a battle brigde or other device as well...

NOT THE BUSSINESS

(id rather a long mixer than to wide)


when my fund are right there better be lip or fit in the same 57 road ready



my case probably will NOT
HYDRO MATIC 7:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
not to smart to me with the 61... if you can get a used 57 for cheaper than a 57 why not force the new purchase of the 61 with all the 57 controls just with the 62 look...and let the 62 / 68 be premium.

no library control or b1-5 buttons makes the 61 a lot LESS attractive.

unless they decide to cut support for the 57

Outside of the upgraded bit depth
DJWALDO 7:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
my 57 is going to be retired with my current 1200's in my house... will be buying a set of m5's to go with this bad boy.
citi 7:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
57 is gone. It's not even listed on the Rane site anymore. This is there way of bringing in the new DJs. That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out? I don't really know their target audience for the 61. Basic cueing should have remained.

Here is the comparison sheet.

www.rane.com
DJ Quartz 7:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Looks like theres not "lip" to hang the mixer from


That was my only 'hang up' when I saw the product image. My first response was, I hope they have a rack ear kit to go with this...
radikarl 7:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
not to smart to me with the 61... if you can get a used 57 for cheaper than a 57 why not force the new purchase of the 61 with all the 57 controls just with the 62 look...and let the 62 / 68 be premium.

no library control or b1-5 buttons makes the 61 a lot LESS attractive.

unless they decide to cut support for the 57

Outside of the upgraded bit depth


things where 61 is superior to the TTM57SL:

it has dedicated filter knobs
and USB FX insert
and a dedicated output for the SP6.
which you can even route to the FLEX FX
and split cue.
and better sound.
that is what i can see for now...

it lacks the software controls though.
but combined with a Denon HC1000s i call it far superior.
Steve Dub. 7:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
FYI these new toys will not make you a better DJ.

So stop complaining, you still suck!
DJ Quartz 7:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
no library control or b1-5 buttons makes the 61 a lot LESS attractive.

unless they decide to cut support for the 57

Outside of the upgraded bit depth


I'm hoping they don't cut the 57 from the line up but the 62 will probably become it's replacement.
HYDRO MATIC 7:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Looks like theres not "lip" to hang the mixer from


That was my only 'hang up' when I saw the product image. My first response was, I hope they have a rack ear kit to go with this...



man Ill be heated if they do...so now I gotta add a kit?

hopefully its included on the case like all yamah mixers...othere wise...
Audio1 7:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
24.media.tumblr.com
HYDRO MATIC 7:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
HEY CRANE> if we need a lip or battle bridge....just saying

do it crane style though...like a stand from the bottom with a headphone hanger or some thing wild....
Audio1 7:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
instagr.am BANDOMA at NAMM!
DJ.ReFRESH 7:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
FYI these new toys will not make you a better DJ.

So stop complaining, you still suck!


yeah but i'll have more lights and buttons so i can look better faking it
djdalite 7:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
citi 7:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
not to smart to me with the 61... if you can get a used 57 for cheaper than a 57 why not force the new purchase of the 61 with all the 57 controls just with the 62 look...and let the 62 / 68 be premium.

no library control or b1-5 buttons makes the 61 a lot LESS attractive.

unless they decide to cut support for the 57

Outside of the upgraded bit depth


things where 61 is superior to the TTM57SL:

This reminds me of when Apple brought the new macbook pro and removed the firewire. Do you remember how pissed people were? You don't remove features to make a higher end product seem better. You make the high end product better. The 61 should have retained ALL of the features of the 57. There still would have been a feature gap on the 62. It's silly IMO. Oh and if I had a 68 I'd be pissed. It doesn't have sp6 dedicated buttons,

it has dedicated filter knobs
and USB FX insert
and a dedicated output for the SP6.
which you can even route to the FLEX FX
and split cue.
and better sound.
that is what i can see for now...

it lacks the software controls though.
but combined with a Denon HC1000s i call it far superior.
DJ ST 7:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
Yes yes YES!

But are the cue buttons as unresponsive as in TTM 68SL?
People want answers!
citi 7:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
This reminds me of when Apple brought the new macbook pro and removed the firewire. Do you remember how pissed people were? You don't remove features to make a higher end product seem better. You make the high end product better. The 61 should have retained ALL of the features of the 57. There still would have been a feature gap on the 62. It's silly IMO. Oh and if I had a 68 I'd be pissed. It doesn't have sp6 dedicated buttons,

Don't know how it split my post in to his.
Swizzle 7:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
So did everyone get their "split" cue options to go with your Lavender headphones and outfits?
DJ Remy USA 7:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
So where is the new timecode? Gotta be lighter and thinner like the shibuyas, I kno that's coming next.
DJ.ReFRESH 7:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
Watchwww.youtube.com
radikarl 7:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Oh and if I had a 68 I'd be pissed. It doesn't have sp6 dedicated buttons,


first of all.
you can map the buttons on the sixty eight yourself if you change the group.
so you basically have "dedicated sampler buttons" if you want them.

second.
would you be pissed if you own a macbook pro from 2010, because the new macbook air from 2011 has thunderbolt?

its called progress.
dj-freestyle 7:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
new vinyl is up, glow in the dark and new time code
phatbob 7:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
No booth output

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, Rane. Rane, Rane Rane.

[Shakes head]
dj-freestyle 7:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
new black, new purple, new glow in dark
Eloy Garcia 7:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
new vinyl is up, glow in the dark and new time code


were is that at?
dj-freestyle 7:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
on searto website or look in forum under control vinly, i just ordered from stokyo
dj-freestyle 7:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
serato.com
dj-freestyle 7:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
there you go guys
dj-freestyle 7:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
nice new slip mats to
Swizzle 7:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
No booth output

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, Rane. Rane, Rane Rane.

[Shakes head]


But at least you have an ultra-powerful XLR.......................um Mic Input for the aggressive MC's!


and a 1/4 MAIN Outputs for those fancy high powered 1/4 inch club systems.
dj-freestyle 7:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
new mixers, new vinyl, good day overall.
dj shadow from detroit 7:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
new time code??
citi 7:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
Mapping buttons is not the same as "dedicated" no matter how you try to spin it. These mixers are 1 year apart. You mean to tell me they didn't consider these features when they were building it? If so, seems very short sighted to me.

Also
I wasn't talking about thundebolt or last years update. I was referring to when the Macbook Pros brought the 13s out. Same time they stopped selling the Black Macbook with firewire. That wasn't progress, that was stupid upgrade tactics. Like the 61 to the 62

I agree that progress is neccesary, but not at the expense of productivity.

And I am buying a 62 as soon as it is released.
dj-freestyle 7:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
im sure those new blacks are a newer tighter time code.
dj shadow from detroit 7:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
u mean just vinyl or actual time code is updated??
dj_soo 7:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
61 seems more like their replacement for the 56S more than anything else... back panel is almost identical minus the RCA main outs...
dj-freestyle 7:26 PM - 19 January, 2012
Im guessing that time code on that new black has been updated.
Eloy Garcia 7:26 PM - 19 January, 2012
no there is no time code update!!
Jiggy Flipp L.O.T 7:26 PM - 19 January, 2012
61= Empath SL (minus a few things)
62= 57 in a 68 (minus a few things)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
No booth output

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, Rane. Rane, Rane Rane.

[Shakes head]

The Session Out is basically the booth output (just like the original TTM 56).

The 1/4" jacks are balanced TRS, which have the same output level (+4dBu) as XLR :)
dj-freestyle 7:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
i do know for a fact its a new plastic and i would be shocked if they didnt update time code. why waste the time of a new black
Audio1 7:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
searto
dj shadow from detroit 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
hey shaun whats the performance new black records?
Swizzle 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
61 seems more like their replacement for the 56S more than anything else... back panel is almost identical minus the RCA main outs...


And there you have it. A 56S with SL built in with USB 2.0.

As an owner of a 56s...I can dig that.
dj-freestyle 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
the glow in the dark are limited edition and numbered.
Swizzle 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
61 seems more like their replacement for the 56S more than anything else... back panel is almost identical minus the RCA main outs...


And there you have it. A 56S with SL built in with USB 2.0.

As an owner of a 56s...I can dig that.
dj shadow from detroit 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
hey shaun whats the performance new black records?
damehype 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
Sucks that all faders on the 61 and 62 are magnetic, no contact... but only the crossfader on the 68
bboysupafly 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
Hey Shaun,

With the release of new rane hardware, does that mean scratch live will be updated as well?
dj-freestyle 7:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
well if nothing the else the glows and purples are dam cool.
skampy 7:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
still having my doubts about the the cue buttons instead of a cue fader . THey could have added it, on top of the cue options. Or make it "programmable" that when you select cue A, cue B is automatically deselected.
dj-freestyle 7:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
For the vinly heads on here follow the cv thread in the forum for lastest stuff always.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
hey shaun whats the performance new black records?

I don't know anything about them, sorry. Serato just released this and hasn't given me/Rane the specs yet.
dj-freestyle 7:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
back to mixers sorry
dj shadow from detroit 7:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
ok thank you
dj-freestyle 7:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
look at shuan always there to jump in. got to love it
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
...when you select cue A, cue B is automatically deselected.

This is how the cues on the new mixers function :)
skampy 7:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
that's actually rather cool ! ;-)
damehype 7:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
Not the 68
damehype 7:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
Hey Shaun,

Any word on 68 firmware update to fix the midi mapping on scenes 2-5? Can't map library navigation on those scenes. You guys said there'd be a firmware update soon
Henry GQ 7:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
FYI these new toys will not make you a better DJ.

So stop complaining, you still suck!




lol
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Hey Shaun,

Any word on 68 firmware update to fix the midi mapping on scenes 2-5? Can't map library navigation on those scenes. You guys said there'd be a firmware update soon

All 68 engineer guys are at NAMM. I'll ask them about this next week. Hit me up via e-mail as a reminder :)
Henry GQ 7:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
wow. i get on here from just 8 hours ago and theres 289 new msgs. wtf? lol


yall some freaks!
Serato, Forum Moderator
Samuel S 7:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Hey Shaun,

With the release of new rane hardware, does that mean scratch live will be updated as well?


There will be a Scratch Live update to add support for these mixers :)

Sam.
damehype 7:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
What's your email?
XRM5 7:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
Hey Samuel,
Any new video features to announce?
bboysupafly 7:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Hey Shaun,

With the release of new rane hardware, does that mean scratch live will be updated as well?


There will be a Scratch Live update to add support for these mixers :)

Sam.


Very nice,
Thanks for the response.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
What's your email?

Rane contact > rane.com :)
bboysupafly 7:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Hey Samuel,
Any new video features to announce?

x2
Considering we are not physically at the NAMM show, can you help us out what new features Video-SL will have?
victor_M 7:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
so Shaun you pulled the short end of the stick and no playtime at NAMM?
lvmez 7:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
Link to new vinyl?
Serato, Forum Moderator
Samuel S 7:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Hey Samuel,
Any new video features to announce?


Serato Video has been announced:

serato.com

:D
damehype 7:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
If the 62 is $1700-1900 street.... I'll just keep my 68. Can't sell that darn thing anyway lol.
djcrap 7:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Hey Samuel,
Any new video features to announce?


Serato Video has been announced:

serato.com

:D


is there going to be some kind of demo of it during namm today
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
so Shaun you pulled the short end of the stick and no playtime at NAMM?

I'll be heading down to Anaheim Friday (if Seattle manages to dig itself out of this massive snow storm!)
XRM5 7:47 PM - 19 January, 2012
Samuel,

You know there aren't any new features in that "Serato Video" announcement for Scratch Live DJs. I was asking if there was any more to reveal there.

Guess not, which is what I expected.
dj-freestyle 7:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
serato.com

guy asked for vinly link
Kepik 7:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
If the 62 is $1700-1900 street.... I'll just keep my 68. Can't sell that darn thing anyway lol.


seriously.. for what we paid for the 68, the resale value on it is terrible
L2daGee 7:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
TTM prefix has been dropped. Its the Rane 61 and the Rane 62
DJ Guayo 7:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Maybe the two people in pic with mixer are dwarfs which is making the chassis look enormous.

Quote:
selling my kidney. any takers?

depends... are you a heavy drinker... lol
DJ.ReFRESH 7:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
sizewise, is the 62 the same footprint as a 57? wondering if i can just pick up the same case as i would for a 57
Joee 7:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Maybe the two people in pic with mixer are dwarfs which is making the chassis look enormous.

Quote:
selling my kidney. any takers?


i got a email, all 3 mixers are side by side, there all the same size
djcrap 7:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
serato.com

guy asked for vinly link



this had me lol that the collection serato vinly that goes dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooo
Joee 7:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
all three mixers side by side------> imageshack.us
damehype 7:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
sizewise, is the 62 the same footprint as a 57? wondering if i can just pick up the same case as i would for a 57


No, 62 is a hair less wide than the 68
Joee 7:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
sizewise, is the 62 the same footprint as a 57? wondering if i can just pick up the same case as i would for a 57


No, 62 is a hair less wide than the 68

Quote:
all three mixers side by side------> imageshack.us
damehype 7:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
Sorry...the 62 is 1/2 inch wider than the 61 (57). That pic is not scale
AIRX ONE 7:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.facebook.com new view
dj shadow from detroit 7:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
the 61 has a lip and the others dont they are using the internal area for buttons so makes since.they do look bigger and thicker. probably the buttons.
dj shadow from detroit 7:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
yes looks bigger for sure
Steve Dub. 7:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
yes looks bigger for sure


why thank you
DJ.ReFRESH 7:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
Quote:
Sorry...the 62 is 1/2 inch wider than the 61 (57). That pic is not scale


thanks for confirming. in that case, the pelican joints for the 57 should work fine for the 62
[O/][iii][O/] 7:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.
slimmjimm 7:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
Can the transform switches on the 61 repositioned?
aireyc 7:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
Specs are posted on Rane site:

Sixty-One Size: 13.3" x 10" x 4"

Sixty-Two Size: 14.25" x 10.5" x 4"
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
The 57 and 61 are the same size. The 62 and 62Z are a 1/2" wider.
damehype 7:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
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If the 62 is $1700-1900 street.... I'll just keep my 68. Can't sell that darn thing anyway lol.


seriously.. for what we paid for the 68, the resale value on it is terrible


Yeah, and add the bad rep it has... you have to discount DEEP just to sell it....
XRM5 8:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
It said they work in every direction.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).
Mighty Dragon Sounds 8:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).



I wish more people could figure that out.......
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).



I wish more people could figure that out.......

+1000 lol ;)
[O/][iii][O/] 8:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?
lvmez 8:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
so the 62 will not fit in the 10" mixer case?
AIRX ONE 8:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

use a different out put hmm
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

Select MIX within the Scratch Live record panel :)
[O/][iii][O/] 8:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

use a different out put hmm


And that would be what may I ask?
[O/][iii][O/] 8:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

Select MIX within the Scratch Live record panel :)


Will that also record analog sources that are connected as well?
Kepik 8:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

use a different out put hmm


And that would be what may I ask?


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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

Select MIX within the Scratch Live record panel :)

+1

It's just like how you would do on a 57
lvmez 8:06 PM - 19 January, 2012
just got a pair of new vinyl.
[O/][iii][O/] 8:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
Right, but will that also record signal from analog sources (TT/CD) that are connected to the 61 as well?
Mighty Dragon Sounds 8:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
*sarcasm voice*

Where is the auto-sync??? Where is my Flux Capacitory that will warp me back in time so that I can correct any mistakes I make in a gig?

Where is the button that I can push where the mixer can start to DJ for me and I can just pretend to be DJaying.

Where is my cup-holder?
AKIEM 8:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
I wonder what all buttons will be reasignable?
No joysticks=booo they are like 4 buttons in one space.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Will that also record analog sources that are connected as well?

Yes :)
Kepik 8:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Right, but will that also record signal from analog sources (TT/CD) that are connected to the 61 as well?


I think as long as it outputs to the main mix, then yeah. But let's have Shaun answer that...
XRM5 8:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
Yeah, they left the joysticks on the 61 but ditched them on the 62. Shame.
AIRX ONE 8:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

use a different out put hmm


And that would be what may I ask?

well you have main out ..booth out... and session out ...pick one ... or just rec in scratch live
dj_soo 8:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
yes
AKIEM 8:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
Hmmm what will I press for instant doubles?
[O/][iii][O/] 8:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Will that also record analog sources that are connected as well?

Yes :)


Thank you. Wasn't aware the internal SL recording would capture analog as well.
djcrap 8:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Yeah, they left the joysticks on the 61 but ditched them on the 62. Shame.



big fail that's why i hate my 68 cause it has no joysticks to assign instant double of decks to them.
dj_soo 8:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Right, but will that also record signal from analog sources (TT/CD) that are connected to the 61 as well?


I think as long as it outputs to the main mix, then yeah. But let's have Shaun answer that...


it will record any input - including vinyl/cdj/ipod/microphone - just like the 57.
[O/][iii][O/] 8:13 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

use a different out put hmm


And that would be what may I ask?

well you have main out ..booth out... and session out ...pick one ... or just rec in scratch live


Nope, the 61 (the model we're discussing) does not have a booth output, only main and session.
dj_soo 8:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Hmmm what will I press for instant doubles?


ack - hopefully the middle row can also be custom assignable...
Kadilac 8:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
Few things i'm not feeling on the 62 already:

1. The FlexFX section to the left hand side...
2. The track scroll knobs being moved up top...
3. No (transform/instant double/various other uses) joysticks
4. Four FlexFX buttons total!?! Who USES FLEXFX???!?!? (if you do, correct me)

Everything else looks good, but it's not a MUST buy like I thought it would be.
DjWoody 8:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I wasn't feeling the design until I saw this pic. It actually looks pretty cool it makes me wanna see it in person.
The Return of Dj Sparky 8:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
so what are the buttons like on the sixty-two, are thay hard like the sixty-eight or soft?
AIRX ONE 8:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?

use a different out put hmm


And that would be what may I ask?

well you have main out ..booth out... and session out ...pick one ... or just rec in scratch live


Nope, the 61 (the model we're discussing) does not have a booth output, only main and session.

foot in mouth lol... my bad
dj_soo 8:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
flexfx is amazing. if you don't know how to use it, you're missing out.
AKIEM 8:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Hmmm what will I press for instant doubles?


ack - hopefully the middle row can also be custom assignable...


Yup, so I still won't be able to tap all four cues....


I use flexFx, for delays. I just hope these ones can be triggered with the footswitch. That was the biggest mistake on the 57 IMO.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
Here's a good pic of what all the controls do and etc > rane.com
popnwave 8:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
I am excited for the 62.. I'll sit back and let you guys cry about the early adopter bugs though and shop for one in late summer :)
AIRX ONE 8:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
that helps a lot .. thanx shaun
HYDRO MATIC 8:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I wasn't feeling the design until I saw this pic. It actually looks pretty cool it makes me wanna see it in person.



REPOST PLEASE...no fb at work
mat the alien 8:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
Looks really good , i would miss the joystick though on the 57 its really handy for doubles , reverse etc. Id really Like a good 3 channel mixer like the empath but in a box like this .
Going to have to check these out when theyre in the shops
DJRemixEnt 8:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Sorry but the 62 is not worth $1999
www.agiprodj.com


+1
HYDRO MATIC 8:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
can the sp6 be put to ONLY the aux channel?
HYDRO MATIC 8:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
oh and THANK GOD the cue can be either or for split CUE....
djcrap 8:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
here is a better tutorial of the features on the 62

youtu.be
[O/][iii][O/] 8:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Sorry but the 62 is not worth $1999
www.agiprodj.com


+1


Neither is a DJM900, but people seem to buy those buy the truckloads :shrugs:
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
I already posted this, but I'll spam it again :)

This is a basic quick feature bullet list.

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Soundcard:

2 USB ports supporting two high quality 12in/ 8out, 24bit/48k, sound cards
Ultra low latency Core Audio and ASIO drivers for third party applications

Software Controls:

USB A & B easy control switching and simplified DJ swapping function
Dedicated library, track loading and looping controls that follow USB A and USB B control assignments
Dedicated Soft Touch hot cue and SP-6 control with USB A and USB B SP-6 control assignment option
AUX USB channel for SP-6 output with dedicated filter control
All mixer controls MIDI map-able within third-party applications
MIDI mapped side panel/"deck" controls and MIDI mapped cue controls follow channel USB assignments

Mixer Features:

Mic input line level option
Mic talk-over function
Intelligent cueing system
Reset mixer (effects and etc) to factory default function
Fader calibration and calibration diagnostic test function
Selectable channel filter and AUX filter resonance high/low cut (Low to High resonance slider for each filter)
MIDI clock send and tracking

Built-in, External and USB Insert Effects Routing:

Selectable built-in effects options:
Filter:
HP Sync Hi
HP Sync Low
LP Sync Hi
LP Sync Low
Flanger:
Positive feedback
Negative feedback
Echo:
Regular echo
Hold echo
Low cut echo (20Hz to 20kHz selectable cut point)
Low cut hold echo (20Hz to 20kHz selectable cut point)

Hold echo and Hold Echo (Low Cut) suspend/freeze effect
USB Insert for Post fader software and VST effects routing
Stack-able internal, external and USB insert effect routing
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
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can the sp6 be put to ONLY the aux channel?

You can route the SP-6 to the Left deck, Aux channel or Right deck.
DJ Unique 8:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
Damn it... I have to save more $$ than I thought for the 62.
Thank God it has split cue though not double Mic input.

Not sure why the 61 that's well over $1,000 doesn't have XLR outputs.
AKIEM 8:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
No joysticks and no foot switch :(
djcrap 8:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I already posted this, but I'll spam it again :)

This is a basic quick feature bullet list.

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Soundcard:

2 USB ports supporting two high quality 12in/ 8out, 24bit/48k, sound cards
Ultra low latency Core Audio and ASIO drivers for third party applications

Software Controls:

USB A & B easy control switching and simplified DJ swapping function
Dedicated library, track loading and looping controls that follow USB A and USB B control assignments
Dedicated Soft Touch hot cue and SP-6 control with USB A and USB B SP-6 control assignment option
AUX USB channel for SP-6 output with dedicated filter control
All mixer controls MIDI map-able within third-party applications
MIDI mapped side panel/"deck" controls and MIDI mapped cue controls follow channel USB assignments

Mixer Features:

Mic input line level option
Mic talk-over function
Intelligent cueing system
Reset mixer (effects and etc) to factory default function
Fader calibration and calibration diagnostic test function
Selectable channel filter and AUX filter resonance high/low cut (Low to High resonance slider for each filter)
MIDI clock send and tracking

Built-in, External and USB Insert Effects Routing:

Selectable built-in effects options:
Filter:
HP Sync Hi
HP Sync Low
LP Sync Hi
LP Sync Low
Flanger:
Positive feedback
Negative feedback
Echo:
Regular echo
Hold echo
Low cut echo (20Hz to 20kHz selectable cut point)
Low cut hold echo (20Hz to 20kHz selectable cut point)

Hold echo and Hold Echo (Low Cut) suspend/freeze effect
USB Insert for Post fader software and VST effects routing
Stack-able internal, external and USB insert effect routing


below is an in depth video explaining the rane 62 mixer controls and buttons by a Rane employee

youtu.be
damehype 8:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
Shaun, what about the cue buttons... Same as 68?
HYDRO MATIC 8:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
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can the sp6 be put to ONLY the aux channel?

You can route the SP-6 to the Left deck, Aux channel or Right deck.

SOLD!

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hated the need for a midi controller with the 57...
more than enough buttons to fix that...

for everyone looking to do instant doubles...I bet the "loop delete" button is assainable...how many time you need to delete one on the FLY?


Falling more and more in love with the layout...hope the work flow is quick..


(WOULD be dope if the loop select area was updated in real time on the FX screen...but I doubt it will be...practise time when she gets here)
BERTO 8:38 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Shaun, what about the cue buttons... Same as 68?

This
maydo 8:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
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No joysticks and no foot switch :(


missing also the joysticks
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Shaun, what about the cue buttons... Same as 68?

This

Yes, different buttons and switches :-)
AKIEM 8:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
I use my footswitch all the time to control recording, I would have liked to use it to trigger the flexFx on the 57.

So can the flexFx be triggered through midi? I am guessing 'no'.

So I am still going to have to do my footswitch modification and hardware straight to those flexFx buttons.

How else are you going to trigger an effect while scratching? Foot switch would have been perfect.
damehype 8:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Shaun, what about the cue buttons... Same as 68?

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Yes, different buttons and switches :-)


Ok Shaun, also ask if there are any plans to allow retrofit of new buttons to 68. Thanks
willythekidd 8:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I use my footswitch all the time to control recording, I would have liked to use it to trigger the flexFx on the 57.

So can the flexFx be triggered through midi? I am guessing 'no'.

So I am still going to have to do my footswitch modification and hardware straight to those flexFx buttons.

How else are you going to trigger an effect while scratching? Foot switch would have been perfect.


to be honest i don't think that many people used the foot switch...in fact besides playing around with it once or twice i haven't known anybody who used it with any regularity.
damehype 8:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
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can the sp6 be put to ONLY the aux channel?

You can route the SP-6 to the Left deck, Aux channel or Right deck.

SOLD!

also:
hated the need for a midi controller with the 57...
more than enough buttons to fix that...

for everyone looking to do instant doubles...I bet the "loop delete" button is assainable...how many time you need to delete one on the FLY?


Falling more and more in love with the layout...hope the work flow is quick..


(WOULD be dope if the loop select area was updated in real time on the FX screen...but I doubt it will be...practise time when she gets here)


Instant Doubles can be achieved by double tapping the load buttons. Just like 68
L2daGee 8:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
Where are y'all getting your pricing from? I have yet to see an official price yet...
DJ JT Stevens 8:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Where are y'all getting your pricing from? I have yet to see an official price yet...

Someone posted this earlier. No official word on it yet though.

www.agiprodj.com
HYDRO MATIC 8:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
I used the foot switch as weel but was also hoping it would have been able to set the flex effects on off state...Akiem pm how you set that up...if it aint to crazy Id love to add that as well to the 62
dj vegas 8:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
when does it come out my guess next december!
BERTO 8:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
Feb 1st
dj vegas 9:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
wooowww ships feb 1! thats cool
dj vegas 9:00 PM - 19 January, 2012
yep
dj-freestyle 9:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
thats fast and stokoy has new serato vinly in the wharehouse so that works to
L2daGee 9:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Where are y'all getting your pricing from? I have yet to see an official price yet...

Someone posted this earlier. No official word on it yet though.

www.agiprodj.com



sounds like agiprodj is price-gouging, trying to take advantage of eager DJs
dj vegas 9:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
wooowww ships feb 1! thats cool
BERTO 9:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
rane.com. Bottom of page
dj-freestyle 9:11 PM - 19 January, 2012
good thing all this new stuff is it made work day fly by. lol
DjWoody 9:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
I just saw Rafael's video and it mentions that it comes with ASIO & CORE AUDIO drivers and that the mixer is midi mappable. He also says that you can route other software effects & VST's into the mixer. So does that mean I can use my Ableton effects? If so, that's freakin' sweet!!! That opens up a whole new ballgame!!!
AKIEM 9:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I used the foot switch as weel but was also hoping it would have been able to set the flex effects on off state...Akiem pm how you set that up...if it aint to crazy Id love to add that as well to the 62


Yeah the reason no one used the foot switch is because you could not trigger the flex fx!!!!
Fuck.(for good measure)

I've considered just going into the backside of the flexFx button and hardwiring a footswitch set up. If I get a 62, I might experiment on my 57 first.
str8nger 9:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
What's with this new improve serato vinyl that gives 6db extra????
AKIEM 9:18 PM - 19 January, 2012
Hmmm so the midi clock out is exiting.

I wonder how it is going to be synced to the song?
My guess......................
dj shadow from detroit 9:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
tighter response
DJ JT Stevens 9:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
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What's with this new improve serato vinyl that gives 6db extra????

Is there a link that confirms this? I didn't see anything about that but I might have missed it in the above posts. Only saw the link to purchase them.
aireyc 9:25 PM - 19 January, 2012
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What's with this new improve serato vinyl that gives 6db extra????

Is there a link that confirms this? I didn't see anything about that but I might have missed it in the above posts. Only saw the link to purchase them.

serato.com
djaction 9:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
can someone explain.. SL4 = 96khz sample rate audio..

TTM 62 = 48khz sample rate ... same as only a SL2??
damehype 9:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
No biggie... Neither does the 68
djaction 9:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
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that's a huge biggie considering the 62 costs 2 grand
djaction 9:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
they put their low end sound card in their 2nd most expensive mixer? wtf
djaction 9:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
not counting SL1 as that is discontinued
dj vegas 9:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
62 is 2 grand i have not seen the price for that one yet?
djaction 9:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
www.agiprodj.com list price allgedly $2399
dj vegas 9:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
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they put their low end sound card in their 2nd most expensive mixer? wtf

you should start topic just on this people should be informed
DjWoody 9:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
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62 is 2 grand i have not seen the price for that one yet?


Rafael from Rane posted $1999 MAP. Read the first comment.

Watchwww.youtube.com
dj vegas 9:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
i have the 68 and nooooooo one else i know bought it im sure noooo one will but this at 2300 watch! in this economy mixing from one song to the next not much is needed.
damehype 9:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
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that's a huge biggie considering the 62 costs 2 grand


The 68 is more expensive and only has 48khz
thebuttonfreak 9:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
for 2k I'll buy a 68 from some disappointed ebay member.
dj vegas 9:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
and people are scared to use the 68 i have 2 at work and every dj that has come in has used the 57 over it. that shows all the extra is is scary and even with a chance to use a 2500 dollar mixer djs pass
DJ Wade-West 9:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
No joysticks?
NOOOOooooo
dj vegas 9:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
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for 2k I'll buy a 68 from some disappointed ebay member.

i will sell you mine for 2,000 + shipping right now and mine has never left my house like i said i have 2 at the club!
YZ 9:38 PM - 19 January, 2012
My 2 cents:

57SL owners are pretty much forced upon purchasing the 62 for the simple fact that the 62 is lacking the cue buttons that the 57SL had... limiting what you can do already on the 57SL. Factor in the XLR'less piece too. I personally want the 61 and really hate all these blinking lights and crap all over the 62... but there is no middle ground so it looks like I'm forced into paying another 500 on top of the 61.

Kinda weak, might hold onto the 57SL for a while longer and let all this madness marinate.

BTW, Can someone from Rane confirm that we can use this with i-Series laptops? Right now, I can't use the 57SL with my Asus G73 series laptop because it's an i7 processor.

Man, I miss the old school days.
dj vegas 9:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
im going back to my vestax 07
DJ Goce 9:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
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+1
i use the foot switch all the time to turn loop's off while scratching on the other...
DJ JT Stevens 9:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
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What's with this new improve serato vinyl that gives 6db extra????

Is there a link that confirms this? I didn't see anything about that but I might have missed it in the above posts. Only saw the link to purchase them.

serato.com

Thanks aireyc!
damehype 9:40 PM - 19 January, 2012
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My 2 cents:

57SL owners are pretty much forced upon purchasing the 62 for the simple fact that the 61 is lacking the cue buttons that the 57SL had... limiting what you can do already on the 57SL. Factor in the XLR'less piece too. I personally want the 61 and really hate all these blinking lights and crap all over the 62... but there is no middle ground so it looks like I'm forced into paying another 500 on top of the 61.

Kinda weak, might hold onto the 57SL for a while longer and let all this madness marinate.

BTW, Can someone from Rane confirm that we can use this with i-Series laptops? Right now, I can't use the 57SL with my Asus G73 series laptop because it's an i7 processor.

Man, I miss the old school days.



Fixed
djcrap 9:41 PM - 19 January, 2012
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and people are scared to use the 68 i have 2 at work and every dj that has come in has used the 57 over it. that shows all the extra is is scary and even with a chance to use a 2500 dollar mixer djs pass



hahahahaha now that you mention its funny......

this same scenario you mentioned happens at my residency when i bring my 68 in for the night....all ma friends stay away...complaining this shit has to many buttons and it's confusing what if i press the wrong one......and those nights they don't ask me for time on the decks...lol
djaction 9:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
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No biggie... Neither does the 68


that's a huge biggie considering the 62 costs 2 grand


The 68 is more expensive and only has 48khz


Yes rane decided to put their low end soundcard in the 68 as well. Did not buy it either.
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ChrisD 9:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
Low end soundcard? From Rane? Funny.

How many 96kHz audio tracks do you have in your library?
damehype 9:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
@djaction, Can you really tell the difference though?
Mighty Dragon Sounds 9:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
DJs just are natural haters and complainers... as well as a picky bunch.....


I am still waiting for at least my cup holder.... if not a bottle opener attached to the mixer.
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Chad S. 9:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
Exactly. don't get caught up in numbers. 96k is really only used in PROFESSIONAL studio environments where you are actually dealing with that quality of file.
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Chad S. 9:50 PM - 19 January, 2012
BTW, new mixers announced :x

and check out the link :) www.facebook.com!/
dj vegas 9:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
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and people are scared to use the 68 i have 2 at work and every dj that has come in has used the 57 over it. that shows all the extra is is scary and even with a chance to use a 2500 dollar mixer djs pass



hahahahaha now that you mention its funny......

this same scenario you mentioned happens at my residency when i bring my 68 in for the night....all ma friends stay away...complaining this shit has to many buttons and it's confusing what if i press the wrong one......and those nights they don't ask me for time on the decks...lol


im telling you! rane has lost touch with who is djing out there! Half the poser dj's cant mix back to back because they use itch and freaking sync buttons. So now the real dj's are left but they are under cut by these free posers so they dont have 2,000 dollars to spend on a mixer hell i do video and most people wanted to but did not want to get the 57 when you had to have it. And they where a grand or so! This mixer at this price will be a fail im sad to say cause i love my 68 and want this one bad!
Mighty Dragon Sounds 9:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Exactly. don't get caught up in numbers. 96k is really only used in PROFESSIONAL studio environments where you are actually dealing with that quality of file.


CUP HOLDER!!!!!!!!!!!
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Chad S. 9:52 PM - 19 January, 2012
I'm with you on the lazers and flux capacitors. I might sit this one out.......


wait for it...
djdannyd 9:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Low end soundcard? From Rane? Funny.

How many 96kHz audio tracks do you have in your library?

+1

Sometimes people don't know what they are talking about.
damehype 9:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
Noob
djgrits7 9:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
hey chad, with the apc 40 in hand, how does having a 62 reinforce the bridge, if at all? couldn't you already do what the usb aux on the 62 does now with having the aux in on the 57? not hating, just looking into if these mixers are more so catered for the bridge or a particular genre, type, etc...
damehype 9:57 PM - 19 January, 2012
Chad, is Rane gonna allow for 68 users to retrofit their buttons to the new 62 buttons?
bicedidit 9:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
the 57 is the greatest!

the 62 looks like the 68----a toy
and the 61 is way overpriced.

i just hope they dont stop supporting the 57
thebuttonfreak 9:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
I see your point about not needing 96kHz, but other mixers in that class (Xone 4d for example) have 96kHz capability for the same price.
WarpNote 9:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Oh and if I had a 68 I'd be pissed. It doesn't have sp6 dedicated buttons

Have the 68, I'm excited, not pissed :D
aireyc 9:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I see your point about not needing 96kHz, but other mixers in that class (Xone 4d for example) have 96kHz capability for the same price.


You're forgetting that a big chunk of the price is for Scratch Live. Take out the SL components and this mixer would probably sell for $1300.
dj vegas 10:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad, is Rane gonna allow for 68 users to retrofit their buttons to the new 62 buttons?

duuu no they are not that cool:(
dj_soo 10:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
Do you even know what 96khz means?
damehype 10:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad, is Rane gonna allow for 68 users to retrofit their buttons to the new 62 buttons?

duuu no they are not that cool:(


They did for the 57
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Chad S. 10:02 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I'm with you on the lazers and flux capacitors. I might sit this one out.......


wait for it...


NOT!
djcrap 10:03 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad, is Rane gonna allow for 68 users to retrofit their buttons to the new 62 buttons?


just gonna go off topic a bit

has any body ever tried replacing the 68 crossfader cup and swapping it with one of those from the upfaders on the 68?

you should cause the feel is just amazing........and super great when doing cuts, chirps...etc
the_black_one 10:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
chad.... please clarify on the sound card quality on the new mixers and on the 68 as well please.
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ChrisD 10:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I see your point about not needing 96kHz, but other mixers in that class (Xone 4d for example) have 96kHz capability for the same price.

The obvious response to this is "so what?". Unless you have 96kHz audio tracks it's a meaningless feature.
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Chad S. 10:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad, is Rane gonna allow for 68 users to retrofit their buttons to the new 62 buttons?

Totally different insides, the same part would not work in both mixers. That is what I know for now.
DJ Remy USA 10:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
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That 61 will end up selling for around $1k. But come on, no XLR outputs and no booth out?


lol @ $1K and no booth output. Why do companies keep make this same critical mistake over and over and again. Unbelievable. It's like buying a car without a way to roll down the windows.

The Session Out is basically the Booth out (just like the original TTM 56 mixer).


Right, but then how are you supposed to record your mixes if the session out is being used to feed monitors?


how long have you been DJing with SSL, you can record within the program. You can record with a external program if you like it has more than one output so Im not what the problem is with the 61....?
thebuttonfreak 10:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
"The sampling rate, sample rate, or sampling frequency (fs) defines the number of samples per unit of time (usually seconds) taken from a continuous signal to make a discrete signal."
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Chad S. 10:05 PM - 19 January, 2012
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chad.... please clarify on the sound card quality on the new mixers and on the 68 as well please.

Clarify how so?

they are 24 bit, 48k
the_black_one 10:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
thanx chad.
aireyc 10:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
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"The sampling rate, sample rate, or sampling frequency (fs) defines the number of samples per unit of time (usually seconds) taken from a continuous signal to make a discrete signal."


Too bad WAV on CD is only recorded at 44100hz...
thebuttonfreak 10:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
I agree, but it's not unreasonable for a consumer to expect it when comparably priced gear from your competitors have it. I'm sure some people use the soundcards for more than djing. 2500 bucks is a lot of money for some of us.

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I see your point about not needing 96kHz, but other mixers in that class (Xone 4d for example) have 96kHz capability for the same price.

The obvious response to this is "so what?". Unless you have 96kHz audio tracks it's a meaningless feature.
djcrap 10:08 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I see your point about not needing 96kHz, but other mixers in that class (Xone 4d for example) have 96kHz capability for the same price.

The obvious response to this is "so what?". Unless you have 96kHz audio tracks it's a meaningless feature.



hmmmmm that's kind of 50/50 .....

what if you are using the bridge don't you think 96khz audio tracks in you ableton library would sound better when using the bridge?

2 cents
DJ Quartz 10:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
@ Shaun or Chad

Will there be a rack ear kit for the 62 mixer, for the guys who use road cases, this is not 'setup friendly'
damehype 10:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
^ Exactly lol
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Chad S. 10:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
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thanx chad.

No worries. Glad I answered it. Wasn't exactly sure of the question :)
nik39 10:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
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"The sampling rate, sample rate, or sampling frequency (fs) defines the number of samples per unit of time (usually seconds) taken from a continuous signal to make a discrete signal."


Too bad WAV on CD is only recorded at 44100hz...

And??
I can record them at 96kHz. Or even coonfert!
dj_soo 10:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
Good thing wikipedia stopped blacking out.

Now you do know that all purchased tracks are still 44.1k right?

Unless you produce every track yourself at 96 AND use no samples other than those recorded at 96, you will never have need to use a 96k audio card.

It's just a marketing gimmick meant for uniformed people who are all "96 is a higher number than 48 - it must be better!"
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ChrisD 10:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
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2500 bucks is a lot of money for some of us

For me too. That's why I'd make sure I'm only paying for features that are useful and meaningful to me.
djcrap 10:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
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@ Shaun or Chad

Will there be a rack ear kit for the 62 mixer, for the guys who use road cases, this is not 'setup friendly'


Chad or Shaun
yea what's up with all the new mixers these days from Rane with out rack ears?
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Chad S. 10:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
Yes. I just checked and the Sixty-Eight rack ears fit it.
the_black_one 10:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
IMHO them new mixers look nice and would love to get my hands on them to get a feeling for the layout and feel for them. With out doing so i cant make a solid opinion.
thebuttonfreak 10:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
"The Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem states that perfect reconstruction of a signal is possible when the sampling frequency is greater than twice the maximum frequency of the signal being sampled, or equivalently, when the Nyquist frequency (half the sample rate) exceeds the highest frequency of the signal being sampled."

God bless Wikipedia.

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Good thing wikipedia stopped blacking out.

Now you do know that all purchased tracks are still 44.1k right?

Unless you produce every track yourself at 96 AND use no samples other than those recorded at 96, you will never have need to use a 96k audio card.

It's just a marketing gimmick meant for uniformed people who are all "96 is a higher number than 48 - it must be better!"
Rane, Support
Shaun W 10:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
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BTW, Can someone from Rane confirm that we can use this with i-Series laptops? Right now, I can't use the 57SL with my Asus G73 series laptop because it's an i7 processor.

Yes, the 61 and 62 are both USB 2.0 :)
thebuttonfreak 10:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
For the record, the new mixers look great. I was just hoping for a 3-channel.
Mighty Dragon Sounds 10:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
You can DJ with a Typhoon and if your good get the same result as a Novice user with a 57 to a 68.........


You can also drive to a club in a $500 beater car that has one working door and windows that don't operate that will get you there and back to your house..... But I bet the dude that drove up in the Mercedes will pull home more women then you.
DJ Quartz 10:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Yes. I just checked and the Sixty-Eight rack ears fit it.


Thank your sir.
djcrap 10:17 PM - 19 January, 2012
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BTW, Can someone from Rane confirm that we can use this with i-Series laptops? Right now, I can't use the 57SL with my Asus G73 series laptop because it's an i7 processor.

Yes, the 61 and 62 are both USB 2.0 :)


it would have been cool if on the 62

Rane had made one of/ both the usbs 3.0 and 2.0 comparable. thus making the 62 future proof...that would have been insane
DJ Quartz 10:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
Another question I had, will Rane run a trade-up program for current 57SL / 56 owners?
djcrap 10:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Another question I had, will Rane run a trade-up program for current 57SL / 56 owners?


that's never gonna happen...lol
djaction 10:20 PM - 19 January, 2012
SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead
YZ 10:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
Chad, I know you're getting slammed in here but can you confirm that the 62 will work with all i-Series laptops now? I run the ASUS G73 laptop.
thebuttonfreak 10:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
usb 2.0 so it should be fine. (am I right?)
dj shadow from detroit 10:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
there lowest end sound card is better then most higher end sound cards.
serato makes hight end equipment.
the_black_one 10:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad, I know you're getting slammed in here but can you confirm that the 62 will work with all i-Series laptops now? I run the ASUS G73 laptop.



work just fine. They are usb 2.0
dj_soo 10:22 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Another question I had, will Rane run a trade-up program for current 57SL / 56 owners?


It's called "eBay"
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Chad S. 10:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead



This makes me laugh.

Thats like saying in one hand i have a winning lotto ticket for a million dollars. In the other hand I have a million dollars. I don't want that.
lvmez 10:23 PM - 19 January, 2012
ebay is getting hammered with 57's.
dj_soo 10:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.
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Logan D 10:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad, I know you're getting slammed in here but can you confirm that the 62 will work with all i-Series laptops now? I run the ASUS G73 laptop.

Yup they're USB 2.0 so you won't run into any i-series related issues.
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Chad S. 10:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad, I know you're getting slammed in here but can you confirm that the 62 will work with all i-Series laptops now? I run the ASUS G73 laptop.


Confirmed. No USB 1.1 related issues similar to the Sl 1 and TTM 57
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Chad S. 10:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
jinx logan ;)
djcrap 10:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
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BTW, Can someone from Rane confirm that we can use this with i-Series laptops? Right now, I can't use the 57SL with my Asus G73 series laptop because it's an i7 processor.

Yes, the 61 and 62 are both USB 2.0 :)


it would have been cool if on the 62

Rane had made one of/ both the usbs 3.0 and 2.0 comparable. thus making the 62 future proof...that would have been insane


for got to add

lets face it 2.0 usb is becoming ancient and 3.0 is slowly taking over soon or later Rane is going to find it's self in the same boat as with the sl 1 with 1.1. were by they had to discontinue due to 1.1 usb related issues similar to the sl 1 and ttm57.

just saying.......in there next line of mixers they should start making them compatible with both 2.0 and 3.0
dj shadow from detroit 10:27 PM - 19 January, 2012
Chad with the new usb 2.0 in the the 61 and the new control vinyl timecode how much difference in sensitivity is their ?
dj vegas 10:29 PM - 19 January, 2012
i offer my 68 for 2,000 + shipping lol it has never left my house i have 2 68's at work:)
WarpNote 10:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
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for got to add

lets face it 2.0 usb is becoming ancient and 3.0 is slowly taking over soon or later Rane is going to find it's self in the same boat as with the sl 1 with 1.1. were by they had to discontinue due to 1.1 usb related issues similar to the sl 1 and ttm57.


Yeah right, Where is your 3.0 USB on your mac?
Thought so....
dj vegas 10:31 PM - 19 January, 2012
ps thanks for the split cue on the new mixers thats awesome:) I can only play in my headphones at home with a baby and a wife "don't get them you can't trade them in for newer models either:(
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Shaun W 10:32 PM - 19 January, 2012
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THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead

LOL! the 61 and 62 do NOT have an SL2 in them.

The 62 has two 20 channel sound cards in it. The SL2 does not have two 20 channel sound cards inside :)
[O/][iii][O/] 10:33 PM - 19 January, 2012
Thunderbolt or GTFO.
thebuttonfreak 10:34 PM - 19 January, 2012
haha, I was waiting for the thunderbolt comment.
dj_soo 10:35 PM - 19 January, 2012
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BTW, Can someone from Rane confirm that we can use this with i-Series laptops? Right now, I can't use the 57SL with my Asus G73 series laptop because it's an i7 processor.

Yes, the 61 and 62 are both USB 2.0 :)


it would have been cool if on the 62

Rane had made one of/ both the usbs 3.0 and 2.0 comparable. thus making the 62 future proof...that would have been insane


for got to add

lets face it 2.0 usb is becoming ancient and 3.0 is slowly taking over soon or later Rane is going to find it's self in the same boat as with the sl 1 with 1.1. were by they had to discontinue due to 1.1 usb related issues similar to the sl 1 and ttm57.

just saying.......in there next line of mixers they should start making them compatible with both 2.0 and 3.0


This would be pointless and just add cost to the mixer that's not needed.

The sound card inside would have to be designed specifically for 3.0 which would up the price and completely alienate a massive portion of users (considering apple doesn't have USB 3.0). USB 3.0 ports still support USB 2.0 and these mixers aren't like pcs - you can't just open them up and replace parts as you see fit which would be the only way you would "future proof" the mixer to eventually take USB 3.0
djcrap 10:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
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for got to add

lets face it 2.0 usb is becoming ancient and 3.0 is slowly taking over soon or later Rane is going to find it's self in the same boat as with the sl 1 with 1.1. were by they had to discontinue due to 1.1 usb related issues similar to the sl 1 and ttm57.


Yeah right, Where is your 3.0 USB on your mac?
Thought so....


have you had the word slowly taking over.....even pc laptops some of them both run 3.0 and 2.0 on the same usb so don't be surprised or cry faul if the next line of macs are both compatible with 2.0 and 3.0....lets face it most external drives these days are 3.0
thebuttonfreak 10:38 PM - 19 January, 2012
Does the souncard even need 3.0? It could be that 2.0 gives them plenty of room.
dj_soo 10:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
You realize that all USB 3.0 ports support all USB 2.0 devices while no USB 2.0 ports support any USB 3.0 devices.
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Chad S. 10:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Chad with the new usb 2.0 in the the 61 and the new control vinyl timecode how much difference in sensitivity is their ?


you know more about this new timecode than myself. But I know that the Serato guys are masters of the craft and with the really really cool stuff they are pretty tight lipped ... and for good reason. So i imagine this is pretty darn cool. I can't wait to get the details myself.
lvmez 10:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
ebay is getting hammered with 57's.
thebuttonfreak 10:43 PM - 19 January, 2012
right, so why make it a usb 3 device when it's not the standard, may never be, doesn't need it and will always be compatible with 3.0 if it does become the standard. I'd rather see how things shake out in the next few years first. In a year we could all be bitching that it's not thunderbolt.

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You realize that all USB 3.0 ports support all USB 2.0 devices while no USB 2.0 ports support any USB 3.0 devices.
djcrap 10:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
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You realize that all USB 3.0 ports support all USB 2.0 devices while no USB 2.0 ports support any USB 3.0 devices.


exactly that's what i meant that still you would be able to run any serato hardware or mixer with 2.0 on 3.0 usb but still have the luxury of running 3.0 usb in preparation for the future when 3.0 gains momentum you would be set and no need to upgrade to a new mixer.
dj_soo 10:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
That was exactly my point
The Return of Dj Sparky 10:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
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ebay is getting hammered with 57's.


i wouldn't call 5 getting hammered,
there will be a load up by the end of the week though
dj_soo 10:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
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You realize that all USB 3.0 ports support all USB 2.0 devices while no USB 2.0 ports support any USB 3.0 devices.


exactly that's what i meant that still you would be able to run any serato hardware or mixer with 2.0 on 3.0 usb but still have the luxury of running 3.0 usb in preparation for the future when 3.0 gains momentum you would be set and no need to upgrade to a new mixer.


*facepalm*
thebuttonfreak 10:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
??? If it's usb 3.0, it won't run on usb 2.0. So if they made it 3.0 they would alientate all their mac users, most of their pc users. All to bet on a technology that probably won't even be the standard. Thunderbolt is where the smart money is.

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exactly that's what i meant that still you would be able to run any serato hardware or mixer with 2.0 on 3.0 usb but still have the luxury of running 3.0 usb in preparation for the future when 3.0 gains momentum you would be set and no need to upgrade to a new mixer.
djgrits7 10:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
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hey chad, with the apc 40 in hand, how does having a 62 reinforce the bridge, if at all? couldn't you already do what the usb aux on the 62 does now with having the aux in on the 57? not hating, just looking into if these mixers are more so catered for the bridge or a particular genre, type, etc...



please reply shaun, chad, or serato mods or any other of these experts lol
dj_soo 11:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
the aux on the 57 cannot be accessed by the software - so you can't assign an sp-6 or bridge channel directly to the aux channel in the 57.
dj vegas 11:01 PM - 19 January, 2012
i do love this day!!!! this time it fell on my downloading day thank god!!!!!!
djgrits7 11:04 PM - 19 January, 2012
i'm sorry i'm a newb at this, so where does the big benefit come in handy, i.e examples, etc...
dj_soo 11:07 PM - 19 January, 2012
the big benefits is you get to run the bridge and the sp6 as a discrete channel.

on the 57, you can assign them to left, right or both.

the downside of left and right means you can only run the device on one side of your mixer. The downside of running both is the signal will be louder when you have both faders up, and quieter when only using one fader - which is a bitch if you want to say run the sp-6 as a virtual 3rd deck or you want to run loops and launch clips while you're mixing.
djcrap 11:09 PM - 19 January, 2012
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??? If it's usb 3.0, it won't run on usb 2.0. So if they made it 3.0 they would alientate all their mac users, most of their pc users. All to bet on a technology that probably won't even be the standard. Thunderbolt is where the smart money is.

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You realize that all USB 3.0 ports support all USB 2.0 devices while no USB 2.0 ports support any USB 3.0 devices.


exactly that's what i meant that still you would be able to run any serato hardware or mixer with 2.0 on 3.0 usb but still have the luxury of running 3.0 usb in preparation for the future when 3.0 gains momentum you would be set and no need to upgrade to a new mixer.


double facepalm
that's like you now saying that 1.1 usb sl and ttm 57 don't work when plugged into a mac or pc running with usb 2.0 ports
str8nger 11:10 PM - 19 January, 2012
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i have the 68 and nooooooo one else i know bought it im sure noooo one will but this at 2300 watch! in this economy mixing from one song to the next not much is needed.

2,300 I can take a nice vacation
djgrits7 11:12 PM - 19 January, 2012
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the big benefits is you get to run the bridge and the sp6 as a discrete channel.



on the 57, you can assign them to left, right or both.



the downside of left and right means you can only run the device on one side of your mixer. The downside of running both is the signal will be louder when you have both faders up, and quieter when only using one fader - which is a bitch if you want to say run the sp-6 as a virtual 3rd deck or you want to run loops and launch clips while you're mixing.



ok nice, thanks for taking the time to explain it to me, i love the simplicity of 2 channels, but with all these extra features plus workarounds for the bridge, i love it!!
dj_soo 11:13 PM - 19 January, 2012
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??? If it's usb 3.0, it won't run on usb 2.0. So if they made it 3.0 they would alientate all their mac users, most of their pc users. All to bet on a technology that probably won't even be the standard. Thunderbolt is where the smart money is.

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You realize that all USB 3.0 ports support all USB 2.0 devices while no USB 2.0 ports support any USB 3.0 devices.


exactly that's what i meant that still you would be able to run any serato hardware or mixer with 2.0 on 3.0 usb but still have the luxury of running 3.0 usb in preparation for the future when 3.0 gains momentum you would be set and no need to upgrade to a new mixer.


double facepalm
that's like you now saying that 1.1 usb sl and ttm 57 don't work when plugged into a mac or pc running with usb 2.0 ports


wow - just wow.

that's the exact opposite of what you are asking for.

if you make it "support" usb 3.0, it makes it a usb 3.0 device which cannot be run by a usb 2.0 port - which is still in most every computer.

Basically you are saying you want a usb 2.0 device to work on your usb 1.1 port.
djgrits7 11:13 PM - 19 January, 2012
so now you never have to hit the l or right buttons, all you have to choose is what deck you want to sync up to right which makes the bridge that much better!!
str8nger 11:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
So does that mean ttm57 updates will no longer be available ?
dj_soo 11:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
yup, and you can independently run the hardware fx on that channel (at least on a 62 or 68) without effecting what's coming out of your main channels.

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so now you never have to hit the l or right buttons, all you have to choose is what deck you want to sync up to right which makes the bridge that much better!!
str8nger 11:14 PM - 19 January, 2012
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i have the 68 and nooooooo one else i know bought it im sure noooo one will but this at 2300 watch! in this economy mixing from one song to the next not much is needed.

2,300 I can take a nice vacation
dj_soo 11:15 PM - 19 January, 2012
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So does that mean ttm57 updates will no longer be available ?


if it's anything like the SL1 - probably means that the device will still be supported, but some new features in the software will likely not be accessible by the 57.
djgrits7 11:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
thanks dj_soo!!!!!
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:16 PM - 19 January, 2012
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hey chad, with the apc 40 in hand, how does having a 62 reinforce the bridge, if at all? couldn't you already do what the usb aux on the 62 does now with having the aux in on the 57? not hating, just looking into if these mixers are more so catered for the bridge or a particular genre, type, etc...



please reply shaun, chad, or serato mods or any other of these experts lol

The AUX on the 57 is not part of the sound card. But, the AUX on the 62 is an additional sound card channel :)
djcrap 11:19 PM - 19 January, 2012
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??? If it's usb 3.0, it won't run on usb 2.0. So if they made it 3.0 they would alientate all their mac users, most of their pc users. All to bet on a technology that probably won't even be the standard. Thunderbolt is where the smart money is.

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You realize that all USB 3.0 ports support all USB 2.0 devices while no USB 2.0 ports support any USB 3.0 devices.


exactly that's what i meant that still you would be able to run any serato hardware or mixer with 2.0 on 3.0 usb but still have the luxury of running 3.0 usb in preparation for the future when 3.0 gains momentum you would be set and no need to upgrade to a new mixer.


double facepalm
that's like you now saying that 1.1 usb sl and ttm 57 don't work when plugged into a mac or pc running with usb 2.0 ports


wow - just wow.

that's the exact opposite of what you are asking for.

if you make it "support" usb 3.0, it makes it a usb 3.0 device which cannot be run by a usb 2.0 port - which is still in most every computer.

Basically you are saying you want a usb 2.0 device to work on your usb 1.1 port.

eeeeeeeeeeeh wrong

i want it the other way around a usb 1.1 device to run on a 2.0 usb port,............ just like how the sl 1 and ttm57 are right now i can plug them into any of my 2.0 usb ports and they will still work.....but be able to still stream data at 1.1 usb in a 2.0 usb port. but it doen't definitely mean the tt57 is running at 2.0 data streams cause it in a plugged in a 2.0 usb port
djcrap 11:21 PM - 19 January, 2012
^^^ now apply that logic to what i was saying about the 3.0 and you got what i mean :)
slimmjimm 11:24 PM - 19 January, 2012
Are the 61 transform switches the "joystick" type, or a true single throw transform switch?

TIA
WarpNote 11:26 PM - 19 January, 2012
I doubt USB 3.0 will "slowly take over". Macs run thunderbolt & FireWire, and both require chain connections. IE a BAD idea for a soundcard+hard drives+video on the same connection in a live switchover situation. Imagine spinning video and do a changeover, all 3 connected to the thunderbolt port ...Nightmare...

USB 2.0 is the most open standard out there, and will be for a looooong time.
str8nger 11:26 PM - 19 January, 2012
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So does that mean ttm57 updates will no longer be available ?


if it's anything like the SL1 - probably means that the device will still be supported, but some new features in the software will likely not be accessible by the 57.

Dam that sucks, I feel like I hit a brick wall. earthier deal with the ttm57 while other mofos will have all this nice updates and I will be stuck with the same old shit, Unless I cough up another 2000 grand fuck that I don't think so if that's I might as well start looking to see what tractor has to offer.. Just makes me mad I spent all my hard earn money and a year later some new shit comes out and soon the ttm57 will be forgotten
ekwipt 11:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
There's no point in putting the top end sound card in the 62, it's not like you're going to put this next to a production setup and start making tunes, in any case if for this 48Khz is more than enough.

Rane's keeping the costs down, the upgrade in sound card would just be passed on to the customer anyway, so you'd be paying $200-$400 more for the mixer (or whatever it would work out to be)
Maskrider 11:28 PM - 19 January, 2012
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So does that mean ttm57 updates will no longer be available ?


if it's anything like the SL1 - probably means that the device will still be supported, but some new features in the software will likely not be accessible by the 57.

Dam that sucks, I feel like I hit a brick wall. earthier deal with the ttm57 while other mofos will have all this nice updates and I will be stuck with the same old shit, Unless I cough up another 2000 grand fuck that I don't think so if that's I might as well start looking to see what tractor has to offer.. Just makes me mad I spent all my hard earn money and a year later some new shit comes out and soon the ttm57 will be forgotten


I wouldn't say forgotten I still have the SL1 and it's still supported.
dj_soo 11:30 PM - 19 January, 2012
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^^^ now apply that logic to what i was saying about the 3.0 and you got what i mean :)


That's exactly what it does right now. It is a USB 2.0 device. USB 3.0 can run USB 2.0 devices.

So what are you talking about?
skampy 11:36 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Yeah right, Where is your 3.0 USB on your mac?
Thought so....


probably around the corner in the april-may 2012 Ivy Bridge macbook pro line-up :p
Matt Hite 11:37 PM - 19 January, 2012
Wow. So many TTM 57 complainers acting like you are being forced to upgrade! j/k I'll be moving from my ancient MP22 + SL1 to an Rane 62 if the in-depth reviews look good. I guess you can say I am holding out for something worthy...
DJ Quartz 11:39 PM - 19 January, 2012
I was trying to find a part number for the 68 rack kit, can anyone help a brother out?
Joee 11:42 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I was trying to find a part number for the 68 rack kit, can anyone help a brother out?

google my brother, you lazy @zz......lol, here you go-----> www.google.com
DJ Quartz 11:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
I already found them, and I'm faaaaarrr from lazy trust me,

www.rane.com
djcrap 11:44 PM - 19 January, 2012
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^^^ now apply that logic to what i was saying about the 3.0 and you got what i mean :)


That's exactly what it does right now. It is a USB 2.0 device. USB 3.0 can run USB 2.0 devices.

So what are you talking about?


simple answer usb 2.0 and usb 3.0 device combined in one. it's more of a feature request......

where by Rane makes a device or hardware
that can do exactly what it does now as you said where a usb 2.0 device can stream data through a usb 2.0 but with the ability to take full advantage of usb 3.0 when plugged in a usb 3.0 port the device can stream data rates at 3.0 usb power.
DJ Remy USA 11:45 PM - 19 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


can you confirm its the same sound card or are you just speculating
Dj Scarface 11:46 PM - 19 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


can you confirm its the same sound card or are you just speculating


I NEED PROOF!
djcrap 11:48 PM - 19 January, 2012
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I was trying to find a part number for the 68 rack kit, can anyone help a brother out?



Think they call them 68 brackets on the rane website


www.rane.com
dj_soo 11:49 PM - 19 January, 2012
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^^^ now apply that logic to what i was saying about the 3.0 and you got what i mean :)


That's exactly what it does right now. It is a USB 2.0 device. USB 3.0 can run USB 2.0 devices.

So what are you talking about?


simple answer usb 2.0 and usb 3.0 device combined in one. it's more of a feature request......

where by Rane makes a device or hardware
that can do exactly what it does now as you said where a usb 2.0 device can stream data through a usb 2.0 but with the ability to take full advantage of usb 3.0 when plugged in a usb 3.0 port the device can stream data rates at 3.0 usb power.


That exists - its a USB 3.0 device whic wont work with a USB 2.0 port.

Im sure you could develop something that has 2 ports or adjusts but again, that would be pointless and jack up the price considerably. A USB 2.0 device already works with both a USB 2.0 and a USB 3.0 port.
dj_soo 11:51 PM - 19 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


can you confirm its the same sound card or are you just speculating


Its not just scroll up - Shaun has already posted about it
kthbrdy 11:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
Just out of interest, can this be used with 3rd party software such as Traktor, etc?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:53 PM - 19 January, 2012
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LOL! the 61 and 62 do NOT have an SL2 in them.

The 62 has two 20 channel sound cards in it. The SL2 does not have two 20 channel sound cards inside :)


Check the specs > rane.com :)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:54 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Just out of interest, can this be used with 3rd party software such as Traktor, etc?

Very much so! Yes! :)
DJ JT Stevens 11:55 PM - 19 January, 2012
Was going to quote Shaun but he beat me to it. I blame it on having to load 1000+ messages.
djcrap 11:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
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LOL! the 61 and 62 do NOT have an SL2 in them.

The 62 has two 20 channel sound cards in it. The SL2 does not have two 20 channel sound cards inside :)


Check the specs > rane.com :)


does that mean that a new update of the bridge in the future will have more than one in and outs so we can be able to take advantage of those 20 channels.......or they will be just a waste......and just for show?
DJ Remy USA 11:56 PM - 19 January, 2012
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So does that mean ttm57 updates will no longer be available ?


if it's anything like the SL1 - probably means that the device will still be supported, but some new features in the software will likely not be accessible by the 57.

Dam that sucks, I feel like I hit a brick wall. earthier deal with the ttm57 while other mofos will have all this nice updates and I will be stuck with the same old shit, Unless I cough up another 2000 grand fuck that I don't think so if that's I might as well start looking to see what tractor has to offer.. Just makes me mad I spent all my hard earn money and a year later some new shit comes out and soon the ttm57 will be forgotten


go see what traktor has to offer then.....this mixer will hopefully do great and be installed in some clubs.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:58 PM - 19 January, 2012
20 channels = 10 stereo pairs, just so I don't confuse people :)

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USB Audio - Six Stereo Record, Four Stereo Playback
WarpNote 11:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
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Just out of interest, can this be used with 3rd party software such as Traktor, etc?

Very much so! Yes! :)

Tried out my Sixty Eight with Traktor, already use it with Ableton, setup is straight forward.
Guess these two new ones would be similar.
s3kn0tr0n1c 11:59 PM - 19 January, 2012
Great job Rane/Serato.

Defo like the 62 with the spaced out bottom section.....Nothing to hit(headphones jack, line/phono swithes etc) when your beat juggling or scratching.....Neat fader section no doubt.

A Turntablists dream serato mixer.

Me likes a lot from first looks.......just need to check one out in the flesh but im sure they will perform VERY well.
DJ Remy USA 12:04 AM - 20 January, 2012
I want one now to bad Im about to buy a house, ima get one Im dreaming of this thing pretty sad I think I may not sleep with my wife until I get one.....lol
djcrap 12:04 AM - 20 January, 2012
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LOL! the 61 and 62 do NOT have an SL2 in them.

The 62 has two 20 channel sound cards in it. The SL2 does not have two 20 channel sound cards inside :)


Check the specs > rane.com :)


does that mean that a new update of the bridge in the future will have more than one in and outs so we can be able to take advantage of those 20 channels.......or they will be just a waste......and just for show?

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20 channels = 10 stereo pairs, just so I don't confuse people :)

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USB Audio - Six Stereo Record, Four Stereo Playback


ooooohhh now it's clear cause at first i thought you were talking about the asio driver imputs and outs...:)
HYDRO MATIC 12:05 AM - 20 January, 2012
+1
MelonHead 12:07 AM - 20 January, 2012
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I want one now to bad Im about to buy a house, ima get one Im dreaming of this thing pretty sad I think I may not sleep with my wife until I get one.....lol


lol
ral 12:07 AM - 20 January, 2012
question:

is there a loop indicator in the mixer?

#still dont wanna stare at the laptop just to find what beat length im at

#and not sure if the 68 has that feature - havent tried 68 yet
Rane, Support
Shaun W 12:08 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Just out of interest, can this be used with 3rd party software such as Traktor, etc?

Very much so! Yes! :)

Tried out my Sixty Eight with Traktor, already use it with Ableton, setup is straight forward.
Guess these two new ones would be similar.

Yeah, exactly the same kind of setup :)
MelonHead 12:09 AM - 20 January, 2012
hopefully GC will get theirs soon.. def gotta play with this jank first b4 anything..
Kepik 12:14 AM - 20 January, 2012
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is there a loop indicator in the mixer?

#still dont wanna stare at the laptop just to find what beat length im at

#and not sure if the 68 has that feature - havent tried 68 yet


If its anything like the 68, there's isn't a beat length indicator, just indicates when you activated it
ral 12:23 AM - 20 January, 2012
^ouch - posting in feature request

at least we're goin' to have the split cue
Dj Shamann 12:27 AM - 20 January, 2012
No XLR on the 61 means no go for me, that sucks, I like the look of that mixer. Shame they didn't put the talkover (awesome!) on it either.

Okay, when I got to this thread there were 685 new messages so forgive me if it's been answered but I had to wade through a bunch of useless shit like 96k arguments.

Rane guys... before I get my hopes up I was very excited to see the new cue/pgm rotary. I don't use split cue in the old school sense panning out one source to it's own side, but is it safe to assume that with split cue disengaged, this will act like your old 19" mixers where I just use the rotary to have a stereo mix of my selected PGM cue and the master?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 12:29 AM - 20 January, 2012
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No XLR on the 61 means no go for me, that sucks,

The 61 has balanced 1/4" TRS outputs, which are exactly the same output level and etc as XLR (+4dBu) :)

So...you're not loosing anything. Simply use a different cable :)

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Rane guys... before I get my hopes up I was very excited to see the new cue/pgm rotary. I don't use split cue in the old school sense panning out one source to it's own side, but is it safe to assume that with split cue disengaged, this will act like your old 19" mixers where I just use the rotary to have a stereo mix of my selected PGM cue and the master?

Correct :)
Rory Heath 12:30 AM - 20 January, 2012
What about the midi mapping?? can we change what certain buttons do? Kinda disappointed there isn't tighter integration with the software. Would have liked new software features too.
slimmjimm 12:32 AM - 20 January, 2012
Shaun, are the 61 transform switches the "joystick" type, or a true single throw transform switch?
Henry GQ 12:32 AM - 20 January, 2012
wow this is the longest 2 day thread ever. <---just made it longer lol. damn thats alot to read!
WarpNote 12:34 AM - 20 January, 2012
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question:

is there a loop indicator in the mixer?

#still dont wanna stare at the laptop just to find what beat length im at

#and not sure if the 68 has that feature - havent tried 68 yet


If its anything like the 68, there's isn't a beat length indicator, just indicates when you activated it


I have a very simple "mod" for loop indication, works with any kind of "click knob" on a midi controller. I use this mod for both my Denon HC1000S and my Sixty Eight. Will post images later.
dj vegas 12:34 AM - 20 January, 2012
yea i posted my 68 on that auction site e___ lol i will buy the vestax 07 i miss it and loop on my mac anyway. I do like this new mixer but im over spending 2 grand going from one channel to the next.
Dj Shamann 12:36 AM - 20 January, 2012
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The 61 has balanced 1/4" TRS outputs, which are exactly the same output level and etc as XLR (+4dBu) :)

So...you're not loosing anything. Simply use a different cable :)



I'm aware of the cable comparison, but I actually am still losing something, on my 57 I use all 3 sets of outputs, 61 only gives me 2 sets of 2. This really hurts the appeal of the 61 for me, as much as I like the look and layout better.


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Rane guys... before I get my hopes up I was very excited to see the new cue/pgm rotary. I don't use split cue in the old school sense panning out one source to it's own side, but is it safe to assume that with split cue disengaged, this will act like your old 19" mixers where I just use the rotary to have a stereo mix of my selected PGM cue and the master?

Correct :)



I do believe in Christmas!!

;p
Rane, Support
Shaun W 12:36 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Shaun, are the 61 transform switches the "joystick" type, or a true single throw transform switch?

A joystick type multi-directional transform switch
dj_soo 12:36 AM - 20 January, 2012
Here's a question about the Aux channel - can you run both an external device through the Aux input and route it to the SP6 or Bridge at the same time? Or would it be either-or?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 12:39 AM - 20 January, 2012
The USB AUX channel is a sound card channel only. The Session In is the analog input you'd use with an external device.

You can route the SP-6 and the Bridge to the USB AUX channel at the same time :)
dj_soo 12:40 AM - 20 January, 2012
so you can run 2 DJ channels, one session-in, and a usb AUX simultaneously?
Dj Scarface 12:40 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Here's a question about the Aux channel - can you run both an external device through the Aux input and route it to the SP6 or Bridge at the same time? Or would it be either-or?


HUMMMMMM
nik39 12:40 AM - 20 January, 2012
You can use the Mic Input as an additional (mono) line level source/input.
Dj Shamann 12:41 AM - 20 January, 2012
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The USB AUX channel is a sound card channel only. The Session In is the analog input you'd use with an external device.



That is dope....

Very nice.
Dj Scarface 12:54 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Here's a question about the Aux channel - can you run both an external device through the Aux input and route it to the SP6 or Bridge at the same time? Or would it be either-or?


HUMMMMMM
Trinicapone 12:56 AM - 20 January, 2012
Check it out fellas
Watchwww.youtube.com
dj vegas 1:04 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Check it out fellas
Watchwww.youtube.com

been posted but good looking out
Trinicapone 1:08 AM - 20 January, 2012
oops this thread is soooooooo huge you could probably post it every hour and some one new will appriciate it
dj vegas 1:14 AM - 20 January, 2012
no worries still a good post as you say im sure there are a lot that have not seen this:)
Dj Scarface 1:14 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Here's a question about the Aux channel - can you run both an external device through the Aux input and route it to the SP6 or Bridge at the same time? Or would it be either-or?


HUMMMMMM
dj_soo 1:29 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Here's a question about the Aux channel - can you run both an external device through the Aux input and route it to the SP6 or Bridge at the same time? Or would it be either-or?


HUMMMMMM


are you humming for a reason or did you not see that the question had been answered before you even posted the first "hummmmm"
the SOUNDINSURGENT 1:34 AM - 20 January, 2012
It's all about the money.............I fully understand "you gotta pay to play" but dam this is carried away, ugh!
Dj Scarface 1:52 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Here's a question about the Aux channel - can you run both an external device through the Aux input and route it to the SP6 or Bridge at the same time? Or would it be either-or?


HUMMMMMM


are you humming for a reason or did you not see that the question had been answered before you even posted the first "hummmmm"



that my bad... it posted as again after i clicked refresh on a freez screen...
kthbrdy 1:58 AM - 20 January, 2012
I remember reading about the Sixty-Eight having 32-bit floating point all the way to the master output, which I believe makes it impossible to clip your tracks (could be wrong). Does the Sixty-Two have the same feature? Also I read about the Sixty-Eight being able to work with VSTs somehow? How does that work exactly and will it work with the Sixty-Two?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 2:55 AM - 20 January, 2012
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I remember reading about the Sixty-Eight having 32-bit floating point all the way to the master output, which I believe makes it impossible to clip your tracks (could be wrong). Does the Sixty-Two have the same feature?

Yes :)

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Also I read about the Sixty-Eight being able to work with VSTs somehow?

The 61 and 62 are able to do this as well > Using Post Fader Software DJ-FX with the Rane Sixty-Eight > serato.com

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How does that work exactly and will it work with the Sixty-Two?

The above article link will give you the basic run through :)
kthbrdy 3:20 AM - 20 January, 2012
Fair play, thats a pretty impressive technology!
Ok I understand how to route it back into SSL but can you route it into VSTs in a DAW such as Ableton Live an back out to the mixer while still using SSL?
I also noticed that the Sixty-Two is the only mixer with Midi Clock send/receive. Is this to sync the DJ-FX yes?
caliguy 3:24 AM - 20 January, 2012
All you guys talking about selling your 57SL and especially those with the 68, you better be smart and wait for the new Scratch Live version and see what it has to offer before you fork out all that cash and realize that all you had to do was wait and maybe pick up another controller and your set!
Trinicapone 3:32 AM - 20 January, 2012
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All you guys talking about selling your 57SL and especially those with the 68, you better be smart and wait for the new Scratch Live version and see what it has to offer before you fork out all that cash and realize that all you had to do was wait and maybe pick up another controller and your set!

Im with you on that............... But!....... This mixer have a lot of advantages over the TTM. I'm not too crazy for another dj to plug into my baby and play. That's like running a train on my woman it just don't work. But I'm sure the Bridge play a big roll in this. No one heard ANYTHING from Ableton. So stay tuned there might be more to come.
Culprit 4:20 AM - 20 January, 2012
def selling 1 of my 57's and getting a 62..
DJ Goce 5:30 AM - 20 January, 2012
I'm a sucker for "limited edition" stuff, but i'll pass on the z-trip one,
i'll get the regular 62, looks way better!
the_black_one 5:33 AM - 20 January, 2012
plus those colors...... toooooo much LAKERS influence into that mixer.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:15 AM - 20 January, 2012
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Fair play, thats a pretty impressive technology!
Ok I understand how to route it back into SSL but can you route it into VSTs in a DAW such as Ableton Live an back out to the mixer while still using SSL?

Yes, and you can stack the VST effect with the built-in 62 effects and the DJ-FX plug-in within SSL.
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I also noticed that the Sixty-Two is the only mixer with Midi Clock send/receive. Is this to sync the DJ-FX yes?

The MIDI beat clock isn't not needed for the DJ-FX plug-in, SSL sends BPM info directly to the 62. Where the MIDI beat clock comes in handy is for VST effect routing. You can even send beat clock info between the two computers connected to the 62 :)
dj vegas 7:58 AM - 20 January, 2012
yo hit up e__y for my 68 its rally never been used i have 2 at work and dont mix often at home. I mix with my up faders and need the extra space that the 2 channel gives you. thats the only reason i want the 62.
RogerRabbit 8:02 AM - 20 January, 2012
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yo hit up e__y for my 68 its rally never been used i have 2 at work and dont mix often at home. I mix with my up faders and need the extra space that the 2 channel gives you. thats the only reason i want the 62.

Lower the price..
Djkom 8:31 AM - 20 January, 2012
Hope it is possible to change some mappings in SSL, it miss a important function for me: Instant Doubles!!! It would have been usefull to have 2 other customizable buttons like the P1/P2 and J1/J2 in the 57sl. I use the map the P1/P2 to "Shuttle" function and the J1/J2 to "Undo", "Instant Double" and "Reverse" ...
How can I do that we the 62 ??? Need an extra controller? Is these mixer are evolutive? I see a lot of screw so I supposed it's possible to customize the mixer so why not add some extra buttons...

Anyway thank you Rane for these great announcements!!!!
I'm proud to be the creator of this thread with the highest amount of posts in less than a half day!!!
dj_soo 9:25 AM - 20 January, 2012
instant doubles is activated by double clicking the load knob :)
Djkom 9:59 AM - 20 January, 2012
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instant doubles is activated by double clicking the load knob :)


Cool! 1 point for you! Now what about the other functions: "Undo", "Shuttle"...
skinnyguy 10:24 AM - 20 January, 2012
I bet they have cupholders in some professional studio environments =P

anyways, i'm practically sold on the 62 just for the split cue. about friggin time. geez.
boabmatic 10:49 AM - 20 January, 2012
Is there any group modes like the 57 has if you are switching between cues and controlling video etc.. or do you have to midi map buttons for this?

also anybody got a link to a UK site for pricing for the 62? had a look at the normal places decks.co.uk djstore.co.uk but nothing, maybe trying to sell their ttm57 stock first?
Kadilac 11:22 AM - 20 January, 2012
Am I the only one pissed that they moved the scroll/load knobs?!?
DJ Remy USA 11:39 AM - 20 January, 2012
^^^^^ yes you are
beezwax 1:29 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Where the MIDI beat clock comes in handy is for VST effect routing.


is this unique to the sixty two (i.e. not on the sixty eight)?

anything else important that's on the sixty two but not the sixty eight?

ignoring layout obviously......
YZ 2:06 PM - 20 January, 2012
Please tell me there isn't a fkn SYNC button on the 62?
damehype 2:08 PM - 20 January, 2012
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yo hit up e__y for my 68 its rally never been used i have 2 at work and dont mix often at home. I mix with my up faders and need the extra space that the 2 channel gives you. thats the only reason i want the 62.

Lower the price..


Shouldn't have to. Every other Rane product held its value long after it's introduction. Look at the SL1. It's still selling from $300 -350. The 68 is a quality product with a bad rep.
damehype 2:08 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Please tell me there isn't a fkn SYNC button on the 62?


If it were, would that really change your workflow? You guys kill me with that.
damehype 2:09 PM - 20 January, 2012
^ and if it were, you could just remap it to whatever you'd like
AKIEM 2:10 PM - 20 January, 2012
Shaun, so how is the midi signal synced to the song? The BPM is known, but when does the signal start?

en.wikipedia.org
YZ 2:10 PM - 20 January, 2012
no, won't change the workflow... clearly you've only been dj'ing for 6 months ha.
damehype 2:12 PM - 20 January, 2012
^ You don't have to use sync, you know, even if it were there. Newsflash
damehype 2:13 PM - 20 January, 2012
Traktor has Sync, and last time I checked... it was a pretty successful piece of software
YZ 2:14 PM - 20 January, 2012
bleh, I give up.
damehype 2:16 PM - 20 January, 2012
^ If SSL ever gets Sync if it bothers you that much, go back to all vinyl..... oh wait, do you know how to?
YZ 2:18 PM - 20 January, 2012
thanks dame, i'll end the discussion after telling you I prob have enough vinyl to stack all your midi controllers 40 feet above your head
damehype 2:20 PM - 20 January, 2012
Quit your bitching then
HandsomeRobDJ 2:23 PM - 20 January, 2012
!!!!!!!!! GIIIRRRLLLFIIIIIIGHT !!!!!!!! The slapping and hairpulling going on here is EPIC!!!
damehype 2:24 PM - 20 January, 2012
And FYI, I own M5Gs and MK5s. I only have 1 controller, an NS6. To me if SSL ever gets Sync, it wouldn't be the end of the world. You could use it if you'd like or not use it. To each his own...So, have a nice day...
damehype 2:25 PM - 20 January, 2012
and just to clarify... there is no Sync button on the 62
bicedidit 2:27 PM - 20 January, 2012
lol.

omg sync...

if i made a $2000 mixer, i would put an 'idiot' button on it too.

what kind of idiot wouldnt want newbs to use the product, regardless of how they use it?
damehype 2:29 PM - 20 January, 2012
Apparently... these kinds of idiots. Hasn't stopped them from being successful

www.pioneerdjusa.com
Rane, Support
Shaun W 2:52 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Where the MIDI beat clock comes in handy is for VST effect routing.


is this unique to the sixty two (i.e. not on the sixty eight)?

Yes, this is unique to the 62 and the Rane MP 26.

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anything else important that's on the sixty two but not the sixty eight?

ignoring layout obviously......

The channel filters, including the USB AUX, have independent adjustable hi-low resonance sliders. The built-in effects are user customizable. For example, the echo has options for normal echo, low-cut echo, hold echo and etc, with adjustable low-cut frequency slider.
haze324 3:21 PM - 20 January, 2012
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lol.

omg sync...

if i made a $2000 mixer, i would put an 'idiot' button on it too.

what kind of idiot wouldnt want newbs to use the product, regardless of how they use it?


If I was a business man selling a very expensive product, chances are the intent my $2000 mixer is not to penetrate the Newb target market. However, there ARE guys like Sasha, Dubfire, Hawtin, (i can keep going) that use $2000 mixers and utilize that functionality offered by another competitor.
HYDRO MATIC 3:29 PM - 20 January, 2012
^^^^ not sure your thinking very bussiness sound then....

If All things bieng equal...with eqaul % profit margin made on each product..

there will always be more people trying it out and leaving than staying with it...
DJ Wade-West 3:37 PM - 20 January, 2012
Great to hear the daytime economists are at it again
Leave it to Rane to handle the business side of things
HYDRO MATIC 3:37 PM - 20 January, 2012
In BJJ (nh/nm)

The most succesful schools get the 1st levels hooked with easy but real progress...
slowly challenging them to get to level 2...(really all the school is geared towards getting people to this level)...
than at 2 forcring them to see how far theyve come from 1-2 and that to get to 3 will be half as hard but yeild double the skill...
3-4s focus is usally centered on the fact youve got past the halfway point and are closer to the end the the finish... by 4 its a simple sell "hey finish this and your at black...or level 5"

( I tried to explain that in plain english instead of technical terms...)

My point is since youll always have WAY more rookies and people who try for awhile then leave...having your entire product line for proffesionals and top level users only...sevearly hinders your chance for growth and expansion as customers grow loyal to a brand they may stick with it throught thier carrer due to many reasons.

And for those that dont stay in the industry long enough to warrant the NEED for your top product you will have lost the opprotunity to both sell to them at all and to possibly convince them to stick with it and get to "level 2 and so on"... i.e; this forum.
haze324 3:38 PM - 20 January, 2012
I agree, but how do you get a customer to try out your product that otherwise wouldn't because it lacks a feature he uses....in this case Sync.

What im getting at is that by adding sync you are not attracting newbs to a 2000.00 mixer, you are trying to pull current users of sync that use 2000.00 mixers --- Sasha, Dubfire, etc. and those users exist.

All good. Don't wanna derail from the Convo. I think the new mixers are bad ass. Considering letting of of my DJM 800 for one of these bad boys.
HYDRO MATIC 3:45 PM - 20 January, 2012
Dont think we agree on the target audience for this mixer...but Ill follow suit.

My only gripe about the mixer so far...(gotta find something right? lol) the Need for a battle bridge or rack kit...smh

Does the pelican case fit with these installed?
Although I wish they would have stuck to the current form facto at least width wise...with 2 cases and a custom desk all to be redisigned it really is disconcerning...but I guess once I get it and open it up Ill be able to see it could have been avoided.

************************

Also dont know if I mised it but the buttons DO appear to be SOFT!!! :) (nm)
If not youd hear them bieng smashed in the video....
beezwax 3:55 PM - 20 January, 2012
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The channel filters, including the USB AUX, have independent adjustable hi-low resonance sliders.


just spotted that on the DJ precision video. would it be possible to eventually bring this to the sixty eight with a firmware update or something?

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The built-in effects are user customizable. For example, the echo has options for normal echo, low-cut echo, hold echo and etc, with adjustable low-cut frequency slider.


are the built in effects on the sixty eight not customizable at all then?
and is there nothing that can be done about this with firmware?

sorry if i'm being thick.....
Mighty Dragon Sounds 4:37 PM - 20 January, 2012
*Loud Noisesssssss*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rane, Support
Shaun W 5:01 PM - 20 January, 2012
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The channel filters, including the USB AUX, have independent adjustable hi-low resonance sliders.


just spotted that on the DJ precision video. would it be possible to eventually bring this to the sixty eight with a firmware update or something?

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The built-in effects are user customizable. For example, the echo has options for normal echo, low-cut echo, hold echo and etc, with adjustable low-cut frequency slider.


are the built in effects on the sixty eight not customizable at all then?
and is there nothing that can be done about this with firmware?

sorry if i'm being thick.....

I honestly don't know sorry. When the engineers are back in the office from NAMM, I'll ask :)
victor_M 5:12 PM - 20 January, 2012
sixty two all the way. time to sell my sl1 and 56s. They both treated me well but like pookie says.

"It keeps calling me!!"
Kepik 5:41 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Am I the only one pissed that they moved the scroll/load knobs?!?


Well, coming from a user of the Rane 68, I'm used to it. But I do sometimes mistake the loop knob for the scroll knob.
dj vegas 5:51 PM - 20 January, 2012
You are not dj if you don't use your headphones to mix sound. If you match bps and stare at lines on the screen or hit the sync button you want to be a jukebox and not a dj! I make it a point to give those posers a quarter and a request of "go fuck your self"! It takes anywhere from 2 to 6 months to learn how to mix sounds get off your ass and become a dj and stop posing like one:)

They make those key boards that play them selfs as well maybe you should get one and start getting gigs and tell people that play the piano there just old school lol fukenn losers!!!
Mighty Dragon Sounds 6:32 PM - 20 January, 2012
They make blow up dolls that run on batteries!!!!!!!!!!
DJWALDO 6:36 PM - 20 January, 2012
back to what negates a real dj.... that train is never late....
the_black_one 6:43 PM - 20 January, 2012
No kill switches ?????
DJWALDO 6:45 PM - 20 January, 2012
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No kill switches ?????


nooo turning knobs makes everything cooler
DJ Remy USA 7:02 PM - 20 January, 2012
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No kill switches ?????


I really dont use my kills on my 57 like I thought I would. But they are nice to have
DJWALDO 7:04 PM - 20 January, 2012
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No kill switches ?????


I really dont use my kills on my 57 like I thought I would. But they are nice to have


agreed... an instant kill is a nice feature to have at your disposal
Nater 7:07 PM - 20 January, 2012
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No kill switches ?????


I'm hoping the kill switch functions are now MIDI mappable and not lost forever. Rane?
Culprit 7:10 PM - 20 January, 2012
The more i start to think about the 61, the more I like it. I understood when big wiz was saying "i'd hate to label it a basic mixer (which its not) but out of all the rane mixers it is, compared to a rane with the sound card built it, but still better than the average.)

It's like you get the basics of a 57SL.. with an SL3 built in.. thats actually a dope ass mixer man
HandsomeRobDJ 7:23 PM - 20 January, 2012
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No kill switches ?????


I really dont use my kills on my 57 like I thought I would. But they are nice to have

ditto
the_black_one 7:25 PM - 20 January, 2012
I use the kills all the time. I can use the knob but it sounds much sharper when you have a kill switch.
HYDRO MATIC 7:26 PM - 20 January, 2012
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No kill switches ?????


I really dont use my kills on my 57 like I thought I would. But they are nice to have

ditto



I use them AAALLLLLL the time...

"/
dj vegas 7:29 PM - 20 January, 2012
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The more i start to think about the 61, the more I like it. I understood when big wiz was saying "i'd hate to label it a basic mixer (which its not) but out of all the rane mixers it is, compared to a rane with the sound card built it, but still better than the average.)

It's like you get the basics of a 57SL.. with an SL3 built in.. thats actually a dope ass mixer man


wrong the epic fail on the 61 is no xlr outs witch means epic fail!
damehype 7:31 PM - 20 January, 2012
YOU DON'T NEED XLR UNLESS you're running long distances of cable. Balanced 1/4 is perfectly fine
Mighty Dragon Sounds 7:31 PM - 20 January, 2012
eeeeppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccccccc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mighty Dragon Sounds 7:34 PM - 20 January, 2012
Sike nah... I really like both units. The 61 Offers me just about everything I need. Although the convience of having cue and sample controls on the mixer is great, I find that it is really not neccessary. Well for me and the type of genre of DJaying I do. I agree with the Balance 1/4 outs. They sound the same. If you are noticing a difference in a big club then you need to check the sound system set up.

And then you have adapters for just about anything now a days. I can make an 1/8 -> XLR with an adapter.

I would really like both units. One for studio and one for the road.
dj vegas 7:44 PM - 20 January, 2012
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YOU DON'T NEED XLR UNLESS you're running long distances of cable. Balanced 1/4 is perfectly fine



evey club for the last 16 years i have played at had master xlr booth 1/4 and i was told you dont get the same sound running booth out or 1/4./rca
DJ Unique 7:46 PM - 20 January, 2012
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....epic fail on the 61 is no xlr outs witch means epic fail!

Agree 100%.
I don't care if the 1/4" is balanced.
All the equipment I would use post Mixer is XLR... powered speakers, amps, drive rack, etc
HYDRO MATIC 7:47 PM - 20 January, 2012
vegas...the differnce in a balanced 1/4 and xlr is very very negligible...

and the booth out on all pro mixers cums from the same bus...you woll not notice a differnce in hardly any areas club and venue wise...and in places where you would they would definatly have a DI box...

But Ive been in the audio game for years...balanced 1/4 and balanced xlr are interchable
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:49 PM - 20 January, 2012
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i was told you dont get the same sound running booth out or 1/4./rca

It depends on the 1/4" jack. If it's balanced TRS (tip ring sleeve)-like the 61-then it will have exactly the same audio output signal level (+4dBu) as XLR. If the 1/4" jack is TS (tip sleeve), it will be unbalanced and sucky like RCA LOL
DJWALDO 7:50 PM - 20 January, 2012
always love it when "and I was told" get's thrown in there....
dj vegas 7:55 PM - 20 January, 2012
sounds good but at my club you would have to run through my "real" mixer because our club is 15,000 sq feet with an amp room on the first floor. we have xlr main, 1/4 booth and you would be screwed because you bought a """""""1500"""""""" epic fail of a mixer!!! my real mixer is a 68 or i could get you the former version of this epic fail the 57 you know the mixer with xlr's!
damehype 7:56 PM - 20 January, 2012
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....epic fail on the 61 is no xlr outs witch means epic fail!

Agree 100%.
I don't care if the 1/4" is balanced.
All the equipment I would use post Mixer is XLR... powered speakers, amps, drive rack, etc


THAT'S A VERY NOOBISH WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
dj vegas 7:56 PM - 20 January, 2012
There is no way to defend a 1500 dollar mixer with no xlr sorry EPIC FAIL!
damehype 7:57 PM - 20 January, 2012
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sounds good but at my club you would have to run through my "real" mixer because our club is 15,000 sq feet with an amp room on the first floor. we have xlr main, 1/4 booth and you would be screwed because you bought a """""""1500"""""""" epic fail of a mixer!!! my real mixer is a 68 or i could get you the former version of this epic fail the 57 you know the mixer with xlr's!


But don't you run into the club's main board?
AKIEM 7:59 PM - 20 January, 2012
Every venue I step in there is a sound man about to plug his janky di boxes. I love being able to go direct. Most places don't have adapters, that means bringing them or go through the di boxes. I don't understand the decision either. Especially for the 61 which is likely to be more of a travel mixer.
dj vegas 8:05 PM - 20 January, 2012
No main board we dont do bands. We are just a night club and set up with xlrs I wonder what the cheapest mixer i can find with xlr's? I will look! in the mean time where is my club dvjvegas.com
skampy 8:06 PM - 20 January, 2012
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The more i start to think about the 61, the more I like it. I understood when big wiz was saying "i'd hate to label it a basic mixer (which its not) but out of all the rane mixers it is, compared to a rane with the sound card built it, but still better than the average.)

It's like you get the basics of a 57SL.. with an SL3 built in.. thats actually a dope ass mixer man


Indeed, I'm itching to buy to 61. THe versatile inputs/outputs, DJFX routing to FlexFX,... Combined with my Denon HC1000S, it offers everything I need. :)
DJ Frank Labate 8:06 PM - 20 January, 2012
Gotta say even the Behringer DDM4000 which you can get for around $300 now has XLRs
DJ Unique 8:07 PM - 20 January, 2012
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There is no way to defend a 1500 dollar mixer with no xlr sorry EPIC FAIL!

This right here.

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THAT'S A VERY NOOBISH WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.

This might be more of my old school ways of thinking.
I don't remember ever buying anything but XLR outputs going back to the early 90's.
HandsomeRobDJ 8:09 PM - 20 January, 2012
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....epic fail on the 61 is no xlr outs witch means epic fail!

Agree 100%.
I don't care if the 1/4" is balanced.
All the equipment I would use post Mixer is XLR... powered speakers, amps, drive rack, etc


THAT'S A VERY NOOBISH WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.

You're right damehype. Thus the "equipment I WOULD use". You're not aloud to whine and cry and belly ache unless it's about equipment you DO use. Next please.
dj vegas 8:10 PM - 20 January, 2012
www.pssl.com
200$ suck it rane epic fail!!!!!!!!!
HYDRO MATIC 8:10 PM - 20 January, 2012
SAD...time to work on finding replacement buttons now for me....

On January 20, 2012, Gizmo said this:
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The buttons are low profile, hard with a slight click. I will reserve further judgement until I've done more than looked at them.



Read more: www.skratchworx.com
DJ Unique 8:11 PM - 20 January, 2012
I'm not even considering the 61 thought cause I'm 90% sure my next mixer will be the 62 to replace my 57.
Culprit 8:15 PM - 20 January, 2012
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I'm not even considering the 61 thought cause I'm 90% sure my next mixer will be the 62 to replace my 57.


Agreed.

Also yes the 1/4" are balanced which can be fixed with the right cables so that really is not much of an inconvenience but.. I am not so sure about that $1500 price tag..
Musically Minded 8:16 PM - 20 January, 2012
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www.pssl.com
200$ suck it rane epic fail!!!!!!!!!

i can do one better $129.99 lol
dj vegas 8:18 PM - 20 January, 2012
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....epic fail on the 61 is no xlr outs witch means epic fail!

Agree 100%.
I don't care if the 1/4" is balanced.
All the equipment I would use post Mixer is XLR... powered speakers, amps, drive rack, etc


THAT'S A VERY NOOBISH WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.

You're right damehype. Thus the "equipment I WOULD use". You're not aloud to whine and cry and belly ache unless it's about equipment you DO use. Next please.



fine!!! You're not aloud to whine and cry and belly ache when you cant play at clubs that have xlr master and 1/4 booth or you can go without a monitor:)
StreetFighta 8:19 PM - 20 January, 2012
is MAP the same as street price? or will it probably sell lower than MAP?
damehype 8:19 PM - 20 January, 2012
1/4' TO XLR FOR THE MASTER.... RCA TO 1/4" FOR BOOTH..... ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
damehype 8:20 PM - 20 January, 2012
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1/4' TO XLR FOR THE MASTER.... RCA TO 1/4" FOR BOOTH..... ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?


More than half of your message contains capital letters. To many forum users this means you are SHOUTING your message, and is considered bad forum etiquette.
dj vegas 8:21 PM - 20 January, 2012
Look they have all kinds of connecters that will work some how but its just sad you have to! Thats the point 129$ mixer has xlr's lol they guy who said no to them should be fired!
HandsomeRobDJ 8:21 PM - 20 January, 2012
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There is no way to defend a 1500 dollar mixer with no xlr sorry EPIC FAIL!

Don't get all sensitive on me vegas. I HATE to say it but I have to agree with that quote.
dj vegas 8:23 PM - 20 January, 2012
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1/4' TO XLR FOR THE MASTER.... RCA TO 1/4" FOR BOOTH..... ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

yes my monitors hang over 40 feet so you have one choice 1/4 like alllllll other 1500 mixers chose!!!
[O/][iii][O/] 8:23 PM - 20 January, 2012
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1/4' TO XLR FOR THE MASTER.... RCA TO 1/4" FOR BOOTH..... ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?


Every booth we deal with is balanced input though.
[O/][iii][O/] 8:24 PM - 20 January, 2012
RCA = unbalanced
1/4" = balanced
damehype 8:24 PM - 20 January, 2012
It doesn't matter dude. It's just a preference. If it all works the same. Balanced outs are the same whether 1/4 TRS or XLR. XLR is preferable when you have long cable runs. Most DJs are just going from their mixer into a soundboard. And furthermore, most of the time.... it's RCA which are most of the time UNBALANCED outs
dj vegas 8:24 PM - 20 January, 2012
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There is no way to defend a 1500 dollar mixer with no xlr sorry EPIC FAIL!

Don't get all sensitive on me vegas. I HATE to say it but I have to agree with that quote.


it is what it is :(
Culprit 8:25 PM - 20 January, 2012
the 1/4" is balanced on the unit
Culprit 8:25 PM - 20 January, 2012
and also agreed w/ $1500 mixer and no xlr.. if it is indeed $1500
[O/][iii][O/] 8:26 PM - 20 January, 2012
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It doesn't matter dude. It's just a preference. If it all works the same. Balanced outs are the same whether 1/4 TRS or XLR. XLR is preferable when you have long cable runs. Most DJs are just going from their mixer into a soundboard. And furthermore, most of the time.... it's RCA which are most of the time UNBALANCED outs


RCAs are always unbalanced, not "most of the time".

We're talking about the booth output on the 61, not the mains,
damehype 8:27 PM - 20 January, 2012
Rane will never be able to please everyone. If Rane ever came out with an EmpathSL, you'd have bitters and whiners also. Buy and use what works for you
[O/][iii][O/] 8:28 PM - 20 January, 2012
In our experience, 99% of the time in the field is XLR for main, TRS for booth.
damehype 8:29 PM - 20 January, 2012
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It doesn't matter dude. It's just a preference. If it all works the same. Balanced outs are the same whether 1/4 TRS or XLR. XLR is preferable when you have long cable runs. Most DJs are just going from their mixer into a soundboard. And furthermore, most of the time.... it's RCA which are most of the time UNBALANCED outs


RCAs are always unbalanced, not "most of the time".

We're talking about the booth output on the 61, not the mains,


I know. The session out on the 61 is RCA.
[O/][iii][O/] 8:29 PM - 20 January, 2012
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If Rane ever came out with an EmpathSL


If only. :drool:
damehype 8:30 PM - 20 January, 2012
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In our experience, 99% of the time in the field is XLR for main, TRS for booth.


But your booth monitor doesn't have to have a balanced connection. And the TRS outs on the 61 are balanced
dj vegas 8:31 PM - 20 January, 2012
Kumbaya my Lord Kumbaya,Kumbaya :)))) im just glad im talking to real dj's not some poser that wants a sync button on the mixer lol
dj vegas 8:32 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Kumbaya my Lord Kumbaya,Kumbaya :)))) im just glad im talking to real dj's not some poser that wants a sync button on the mixer lol


That reason alone should end arguing for at least 2 years among real dj's
[O/][iii][O/] 8:34 PM - 20 January, 2012
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In our experience, 99% of the time in the field is XLR for main, TRS for booth.


But your booth monitor doesn't have to have a balanced connection. And the TRS outs on the 61 are balanced


Correct. It's workaroundable, but not ideal. I agree that there's no excuse for a mixer of this caliber and cost not to have XLR for mains and TRS for booth.
damehype 8:35 PM - 20 January, 2012
It's not a workaround if it isn't a requirement
dj vegas 8:36 PM - 20 January, 2012
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In our experience, 99% of the time in the field is XLR for main, TRS for booth.


But your booth monitor doesn't have to have a balanced connection. And the TRS outs on the 61 are balanced


Correct. It's workaroundable, but not ideal. I agree that there's no excuse for a mixer of this caliber and cost not to have XLR for mains and TRS for booth.



like i said its to cheep to put it in there some one should really lose there job over that im sorry its just STUPID when 160 $ mixers have them!
[O/][iii][O/] 8:36 PM - 20 January, 2012
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It's not a workaround if it isn't a requirement


Correct. But like I said, it will be a workaround 99% of time in field for us and most everyone we know.
[O/][iii][O/] 8:37 PM - 20 January, 2012
Hate using adapters!
citi 8:39 PM - 20 January, 2012
I don't know why we are even having debate. Using an XLR adapter is not using XLR - it's the same thing, until it's not. Yes quarter inch will do fine, but that doesn't make it better. My entire setup is XLR based and I hate having to use adapters when I don't need to. Almost every club in SoCal uses XLRs therefore, the mixer should have had XLRs.

Bottom line, this is a sales ploy, nothing more. They want you do buy the 62. That's why there's no cue points on the thing. Do the math the Sl3 is around $700 and the 56s is around $700. That's right in line with the 61 HOWEVER, unlike the 56, the 61 does not have XLRs. You can justify it all you like, the 61 should have included them.
citi 8:40 PM - 20 January, 2012
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It's not a workaround if it isn't a requirement

what??? Subjective to say the least.
[O/][iii][O/] 8:40 PM - 20 January, 2012
^^^ Yep.
djsmuve415 8:41 PM - 20 January, 2012
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In our experience, 99% of the time in the field is XLR for main, TRS for booth.

^This
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Look they have all kinds of connecters that will work some how but its just sad you have to! Thats the point. A 129$ mixer has xlr's.

^And this
He's absolutely right... it was a poor decision on Rane's part - specially at that price point.
dj vegas 8:42 PM - 20 January, 2012
why would you have to workaround a 1,500 dollar mixer get real lol EPIC FAIL:)))
dj vegas 8:43 PM - 20 January, 2012
You should have a hole for blow jobs paying 1500 dollars for a mixer! P.s i have the 68:)
the_black_one 8:43 PM - 20 January, 2012
i have to agree on the fail for not putting XLR's
HandsomeRobDJ 8:46 PM - 20 January, 2012
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workaroundable

+1 just for the term!
[O/][iii][O/] 8:47 PM - 20 January, 2012
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workaroundable

+1 just for the term!


:takesabow:
HandsomeRobDJ 8:50 PM - 20 January, 2012
If there are any Boodock Saints fans in here I just found out yesterday that "symbiology" is a real word. How disappointing : (
DJ Frank Labate 8:57 PM - 20 January, 2012
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If there are any Boodock Saints fans in here I just found out yesterday that "symbiology" is a real word. How disappointing : (

In the film the cop said "symbology" not symbiology
Rane, Support
Shaun W 9:03 PM - 20 January, 2012
There is/was no sales ploy. It comes down to physical space limitations and what the mixer-internally- has room for. To keep the 61 the same size as the TTM 57SL, but with a Balanced 1/4" TRS & XLR combination jack, something had to go. Personally, I would have preferred keeping the 1/4" Mic input over the mic combo jack, but it wasn't my call. Rane received quite a bit of complaints about the 57's lack of a XLR mic input, so changes were made. You simply cannot make everyone happy, which is VERY apparent in this mixer flame rant.

Being that XLR and TRS are EXACTLY the same output level (+4dBU), the engineers used TRS. Why? simply because there was no room for XLR outputs.

Peek inside a 61 sometime, it's packed!

FYI, A $169 mixer with XLR jacks will still sound like a crappy $169 mixer, regardless of the "fancy" jacks someone tosses on it :)
caliguy 9:05 PM - 20 January, 2012
Re XLR cables:

XLR is the standard now in every club installation, and audio input on speakers and amplifiers! Yes you can buy adapters, but the point is, this is RANE, you expect it be fitted with them.
HYDRO MATIC 9:08 PM - 20 January, 2012
+1 Shaun W
caliguy 9:08 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Being that XLR and TRS are EXACTLY the same output level (+4dBU), the engineers used TRS. Why? simply because there was no room for XLR outputs.

Peek inside a 61 sometime, it's packed!
Seeing it this way, it makes sense. It was a trade off, but RANE could have asked these forum members first, what they preferred, XLR mic, or XLR out.
the_black_one 9:08 PM - 20 January, 2012
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There is/was no sales ploy. It comes down to physical space limitations and what the mixer-internally- has room for. To keep the 61 the same size as the TTM 57SL, but with a Balanced 1/4" TRS & XLR combination jack, something had to go. Personally, I would have preferred keeping the 1/4" Mic input over the mic combo jack, but it wasn't my call. Rane received quite a bit of complaints about the 57's lack of a XLR mic input, so changes were made. You simply cannot make everyone happy, which is VERY apparent in this mixer flame rant.

Being that XLR and TRS are EXACTLY the same output level (+4dBU), the engineers used TRS. Why? simply because there was no room for XLR outputs.

Peek inside a 61 sometime, it's packed!

FYI, A $169 mixer with XLR jacks will still sound like a crappy $169 mixer, regardless of the "fancy" jacks someone tosses on it :)


if they fit in the 62 why not on the 61?
dj shadow from detroit 9:09 PM - 20 January, 2012
I agree it should have xlr but its not a huge thing. just get an adapter and u will get the same sound quality but even better with the 61 compared to a 56 using whatever serato box and a 57 ( the sound card is better internally ) the sound will be better using a 61 compared to a 57 . so you arent loosing anything but money for the adapters... unless u are running far away from the main mixing board the xlr will not make a difference.
caliguy 9:09 PM - 20 January, 2012
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if they fit in the 62 why not on the 61?

All bad.
StreetFighta 9:09 PM - 20 January, 2012
good question, since the 62 has more shit in it
caliguy 9:10 PM - 20 January, 2012
RANE!!!!!!!!!!!! Why not throw in the adapters, problem solved.
HYDRO MATIC 9:10 PM - 20 January, 2012
62 is wider than the 61...
DJ Dynamight 9:11 PM - 20 January, 2012
Here's why:

TTM57: 13.3"H x 10"W x 3"D
Sixty-One: 13.3" x 10" x 4"
Sixty-Two: 14.25" x 10.5" x 4"
kthbrdy 9:11 PM - 20 January, 2012
What's with people's insecurity about having no XLR on the Sixty-One? TRS delivers the exact same quality as XLR providing your using a balanced cable. Simples.
the_black_one 9:12 PM - 20 January, 2012
i understand things needed to be cut out because space but why not cut out other connections that are not the club standard for connecting into the mains?
kthbrdy 9:13 PM - 20 January, 2012
BTW thanks Shaun for the info regarding my questions! Ace!
[O/][iii][O/] 9:14 PM - 20 January, 2012
I know I'd rather have to use an adapter on a single mic vs. multiple adapters on the outputs.
dj shadow from detroit 9:14 PM - 20 January, 2012
its all the same sound quality... i dont get what the big deal is. just get the adapters. which any dj should have anyway.
[O/][iii][O/] 9:15 PM - 20 January, 2012
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its all the same sound quality... i dont get what the big deal is. just get the adapters. which any dj should have anyway.



it's not a matter of SQ rather a matter of needing to adapt things on a $1.5K mixer.
dj vegas 9:18 PM - 20 January, 2012
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its all the same sound quality... i dont get what the big deal is. just get the adapters. which any dj should have anyway.



it's not a matter of SQ rather a matter of needing to adapt things on a $1.5K mixer.


+1,00000000! lol no xlr cause of the mic fml EPIC FAIL!!!!!
the_black_one 9:18 PM - 20 January, 2012
all money aside. my last 3 mixers have been rane. when buying a mixer, having XLR's has always been a must when i have bought mixers.
damehype 9:19 PM - 20 January, 2012
^ Like I said... noobish
damehype 9:19 PM - 20 January, 2012
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its all the same sound quality... i dont get what the big deal is. just get the adapters. which any dj should have anyway.



it's not a matter of SQ rather a matter of needing to adapt things on a $1.5K mixer.


^ Like I said... noobish
damehype 9:20 PM - 20 January, 2012
True audio professionals know how to adapt to any sound related issue, they are prepared.
damehype 9:21 PM - 20 January, 2012
You say you're a DJ and not a true audio professional.....Exactly. Leave the decisions to the engineers who obviously know what they're doing
dj vegas 9:21 PM - 20 January, 2012
"fancy jack" lol
ThatKid 9:50 PM - 20 January, 2012
How much does the 61 and 62 cost?
citi 9:54 PM - 20 January, 2012
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There is/was no sales ploy. It comes down to physical space limitations and what the mixer-internally- has room for. To keep the 61 the same size as the TTM 57SL, but with a Balanced 1/4" TRS & XLR combination jack, something had to go. Personally, I would have preferred keeping the 1/4" Mic input over the mic combo jack, but it wasn't my call. Rane received quite a bit of complaints about the 57's lack of a XLR mic input, so changes were made. You simply cannot make everyone happy, which is VERY apparent in this mixer flame rant.

Being that XLR and TRS are EXACTLY the same output level (+4dBU), the engineers used TRS. Why? simply because there was no room for XLR outputs.

Peek inside a 61 sometime, it's packed!

FYI, A $169 mixer with XLR jacks will still sound like a crappy $169 mixer, regardless of the "fancy" jacks someone tosses on it :)


What you say makes perfect sense from a technical standpoint. If there's not enough room, nothing you can do about that. However, if this truly was a technical decision vs a business decision, conventional wisdom would have been to just make the box a little bigger. Again, I'm buying a 62 so I don't really have a dog in this fight.
HandsomeRobDJ 10:02 PM - 20 January, 2012
If you're having trouble fitting it in just spit... nevermind
echa1945mf 10:11 PM - 20 January, 2012
wondering how many of this "no auto Sync for life" DJ's are actually playing superclubs,flying off from cities to cities and continents to continents ,

if you play 4 different cities / week,sleep deprive,constant hangovers,and tons of touring problems an auto sync is a life saver sometimes,playing a peak time club for 3 hours then booked again at an after hour club for 3 hours while the sun is rising , man thats why i always brings my Audio8 (Before Rane have open their SLBox) just to switch to Traktor for an after hour club , sync does help if your tired,intoxicated and fucked up on so many stuff you can barely hear anything

what if SSL has a Sync Button ? means time i deleted traktor off my laptop (ass long as the Sync Version is stable),i do respect turntables and the art of turntablism (even if i can only do a baby scratch) , but some of you "Real DJ's dont use sync" are getting kinda stupid,how many are you "No Sync" are really really well know in your country up until the level of clubs begging you to play at your venue?how many of you "real Dj's" actually played 3000-5000-8000 capacity clubs? Massive Festivals?opens up for HUGE Name in a HUGE Club?

man this Sync VS No Sync , Real DJ's VS fake DJ's stuff is starting to annoy me, Real DJ's doesnt matter if they use Sync or not as long as they rock clubs and booked endlessly, different story if your a turntablist and Scratch routines are your game, it would be stupid to use sync in the DMC's,and why does this great thread about 2 great mixer gotta turn into sync vs no sync argument geeeesh


this my 2 cents,like it or not,but sometimes sync helped me making shitload of money and with 3000 people infront of me they dont care if use an ipod and thats the fact,deal with it,im a button pusher,fake dj,knob twisting douchebag who probably makes more money in one gig than the "real DJ" that talks shit about sync





and no i dont always use sync,my choice of kit is an SL2 and SSL,i own a 68 and SL3 and SOMETIMES Traktor if im too tired to play or too fucked up but tied by contract and shitload of money to play,hate me all you want i dont care , and if serato do make sync,im not affraid and will welcome it with an open hand



*end _rant
djaction 10:22 PM - 20 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?
djaction 10:23 PM - 20 January, 2012
also 1/4" cables = easy to be accidentally pulled out vs xlr
HandsomeRobDJ 10:27 PM - 20 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

Can somebody explain that so I can understand?
DJ Dynamight 10:27 PM - 20 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

maybe so it could be used as a sound card in the studio...
reggae delgado 10:38 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Being that XLR and TRS are EXACTLY the same output level (+4dBU), the engineers used TRS. Why? simply because there was no room for XLR outputs.

Peek inside a 61 sometime, it's packed!


Seeing it this way, it makes sense. It was a trade off, but RANE could have asked these forum members first, what they preferred, XLR mic, or XLR out.



Yes and I could ask 300 people on the street about my health issue but I'll go ahead and ask the doctors. No offense to the people on this board, many of whom are better DJs than I, but look how much time here is spent bickering, it's simply not a very good format for getting constructive feedback.
And can you imagine the bizarre rumors etc about rane's future if they posted a thread saying "hey we are releasing a new mixer should it have XLR or 1/4 outs?" The first 5 posts would be about traktor and the next five would be about the sync button.
AKIEM 10:38 PM - 20 January, 2012
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I know I'd rather have to use an adapter on a single mic vs. multiple adapters on the outputs.


This+ plus thanks for the explanation Shaun
L2daGee 10:48 PM - 20 January, 2012
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also 1/4" cables = easy to be accidentally pulled out vs xlr


I'd much rather have my entire mixer fall to the floor because XLR's lock in, instead of 1/4" accidentally pulled out.

You guys are crazy.

XLR and balanced TRS 1/4" have the same exact output level. Get over it!
DJ Super Mario 10:53 PM - 20 January, 2012
Bitching about the 61 not having XLR outs and that his crap $129 mixer does is a stupid argument! Both those mixers have a crossfader and volume knob also, but I bet you one of them is superior over the other. I'll take the 1/4" outputs on the 61 over 20 XLR outs on any $129 mixer any day of the week! You are comparing apples and oranges! If XLR is that important to you, they sell some very cheap 1/4" to XLR patch cords for like $15 a pair... You'll get the same sound which is what is the real point of importance...

Your argument is an "Epic Fail"...
AKIEM 10:59 PM - 20 January, 2012
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I know I'd rather have to use an adapter on a single mic vs. multiple adapters on the outputs.


This+ plus thanks for the explanation Shaun


I'd even rather see no mic. It's not the house mixer. Made that point before.
dj vegas 11:11 PM - 20 January, 2012
ok how many people are bitching about the size of the 61? 0 how many people think its an epic fail to have a 1500$ mixer with no xlr's lots!
dj vegas 11:20 PM - 20 January, 2012
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Bitching about the 61 not having XLR outs and that his crap $129 mixer does is a stupid argument! Both those mixers have a crossfader and volume knob also, but I bet you one of them is superior over the other. I'll take the 1/4" outputs on the 61 over 20 XLR outs on any $129 mixer any day of the week! You are comparing apples and oranges! If XLR is that important to you, they sell some very cheap 1/4" to XLR patch cords for like $15 a pair... You'll get the same sound which is what is the real point of importance...

Your argument is an "Epic Fail"...

you are a not even close!!! sorry no one is saying the 100$ mixer is better or even close we are just saying that the option to have xlr's starts in mixers that are 14 times cheaper! Rane 's comeback was there is not enough space. The truth is they cut costs and thats just a shame when they are charging 1,500 and and expect you to work around it?!?!?!? "It" being the standard on mixers from 169$ to 2,500. LIke i said they could not make it fit? WWWWho cares that it is the same size as the 57 lol NOOOO ONE THATS A CHEAP COP OUT! LOL im not going to buy the 62 because its bigger than the 57 lol get the f&#K out of here!!!!
djaction 11:22 PM - 20 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

Can somebody explain that so I can understand?


SL4 = highest end studio grade sound card offered... SL2 = lowest cheapest one available..

SL4 is for professional studio quality but apparently the 61/62/68 are not?
the_black_one 11:25 PM - 20 January, 2012
size should not be and issue here. If they made the 62 bigger than why not make the 61 bigger as well. i can care less if its the same size as a 57. I also read somewhere that the 61 did not have a booth out?
dj vegas 11:27 PM - 20 January, 2012
I will say at this point no one cares! People are going to work around it and thats cool:)
dj_soo 11:29 PM - 20 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

Can somebody explain that so I can understand?


SL4 = highest end studio grade sound card offered... SL2 = lowest cheapest one available..

SL4 is for professional studio quality but apparently the 61/62/68 are not?


wow - you have no idea what you're talking about.

#1 - the 61/62 does not have an sl2 inside - the 62 has TWO 10 in/6-out sound cards, the 61 has one 6-in/4out sound card
#2 - not including 96 k support was likely a decision in order to lower the cost of the mixer because it is IRRELEVANT TO DJS it will only matter to producers who are ONLY playing their own tunes and EVEN THEN I don't know of ANY professional music producers that play many 96k tunes.

again it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you don't even know that 96khz sample rate means.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 11:31 PM - 20 January, 2012
DJ VEGAS
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Rane 's comeback was there is not enough space. The truth is they cut costs and thats just a shame when they are charging 1,500 and and expect you to work around it?!?!?!?


No offense but you are not a Rane employee. I think Shaun W. is more qualified to offer the truth as you put it. You can make your complaints, that is fine but please refrain from going overboard and offering opinion as truth.
J.J. 11:35 PM - 20 January, 2012
www.djtechtools.com

The buttons are "They’re a very hard plastic". WHY RANE? WHY? For longevity... 5 million presses. Isn't that what you said about the 68. Every DJ that demo's the 68 has Dicers. Why is that? Soft rubber buttons like a drum pad. Very upset with RANE.

I lover everything else about the mixer though.

I'm still willing to pay someone to come up with some better buttons retro fitted in my 68.
djaction 11:39 PM - 20 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

Can somebody explain that so I can understand?


SL4 = highest end studio grade sound card offered... SL2 = lowest cheapest one available..

SL4 is for professional studio quality but apparently the 61/62/68 are not?


wow - you have no idea what you're talking about.

#1 - the 61/62 does not have an sl2 inside - the 62 has TWO 10 in/6-out sound cards, the 61 has one 6-in/4out sound card
#2 - not including 96 k support was likely a decision in order to lower the cost of the mixer because it is IRRELEVANT TO DJS it will only matter to producers who are ONLY playing their own tunes and EVEN THEN I don't know of ANY professional music producers that play many 96k tunes.

again it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you don't even know that 96khz sample rate means.


check the specs page SL2 vs 61/62 vs SL4.. and agreed DJ's don't care about 'sound quality' and 96khz wasn't included because of cost.. and yes most pepole are not playing 96khz NOW.. but then again go back a couple years and there were a TON of dj's not playing anything remotely close to uncompressed audio or 320k mp3
aireyc 11:40 PM - 20 January, 2012
OMG the 62 doesn't have S/PDIF! What will I ever do?!?!?! wahhhh wahhhh wahhh

I just wish the mixer were closer to $1800. Hopefully I can get a deal somewhere. Regardless, I'm pumped.
skinnyguy 11:46 PM - 20 January, 2012
for the price of the 62, it better have more than 1 sticker in the box
sixxx 11:47 PM - 20 January, 2012
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also 1/4" cables = easy to be accidentally pulled out vs xlr


lol

facepalm
DJRemixEnt 11:49 PM - 20 January, 2012
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for the price of the 62, it better have more than 1 sticker in the box


lmao
ImUrDJDeebar 11:56 PM - 20 January, 2012
Oh! Yeah! Here's the latest look of the TTM Mixers.. Lol
dj_soo 12:18 AM - 21 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

Can somebody explain that so I can understand?


SL4 = highest end studio grade sound card offered... SL2 = lowest cheapest one available..

SL4 is for professional studio quality but apparently the 61/62/68 are not?


wow - you have no idea what you're talking about.

#1 - the 61/62 does not have an sl2 inside - the 62 has TWO 10 in/6-out sound cards, the 61 has one 6-in/4out sound card
#2 - not including 96 k support was likely a decision in order to lower the cost of the mixer because it is IRRELEVANT TO DJS it will only matter to producers who are ONLY playing their own tunes and EVEN THEN I don't know of ANY professional music producers that play many 96k tunes.

again it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you don't even know that 96khz sample rate means.


check the specs page SL2 vs 61/62 vs SL4.. and agreed DJ's don't care about 'sound quality' and 96khz wasn't included because of cost.. and yes most pepole are not playing 96khz NOW.. but then again go back a couple years and there were a TON of dj's not playing anything remotely close to uncompressed audio or 320k mp3


the "specs" are more than just the sample rate support.

go back a couple years and DJs were playing cds and vinyl - no one but the biggest wavies were playing any less than 192 and even then, 320 was the standard FOR DJs - yes, listeners were all about 128k 10 years ago, but listeners were also all about re-dubbed cassette tape recordings of radio 20 years ago.

again, you don't have the faintest clue as to what you're talking about. "CD quality" has been the norm since the 80s and that's 44.1 and this has not changed in decades.

Apple is now talking about possibly introducing 24-bit files but that's still years away.

NO ONE other than RECORDING ENGINEERS and MUSIC PRODUCERS will be working with 96k files - and even those completed projects will be converted down to the standard (44.1) so that it will be support existed hardware. These people WILL NOT use a Dj mixer for PROFESSIONAL RECORDING setups they have their own dedicated hardware for their setups - NOT a dj mixer

again, if you actually tell me why YOU or ANY OTHER DJ in the world needs 96k then I will possibly listen to your arguments but so far the only thing you seem to think is "OMG 96 IS A HIGHER NUMBER THAN 48!!!!! THIS MACHINE SUCKS!!"
citi 12:22 AM - 21 January, 2012
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check the specs page SL2 vs 61/62 vs SL4.. and agreed DJ's don't care about 'sound quality' and 96khz wasn't included because of cost.. and yes most pepole are not playing 96khz NOW.. but then again go back a couple years and there were a TON of dj's not playing anything remotely close to uncompressed audio or 320k mp3


You're guys are talking about 2 different things. Headroom (bit depth) vs audio compression.

the 32 bit floating point and the 24 bit DACs are far more important than "perceieved audio upgrades of 96khz

No one plays back anything above 44khz unless you are an audiophile living with acousticly perfect rooms or headphones. Keep in mind, this is just one piece of a longer chain and unless your are mixing .wav files - you will never hear the extra headroom and dynamic range that 96khz gives you. 320k MP3 (still nowhere near the quality of .wav) going into your 96k mixer, then outputting to whatever BS system you are playing out of. You ever hear a song in a club, then play it in your headphones and say, wow, I never heard those sounds before? That's because by the time the sound leaves those overbassed subs and bounces off the wall and back into your ear it's muddled garbage. Not to mention, we aren't mixing hi-fidelity jazz.

Have you looked at pop music wave files? It looks like this:

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All those subtle nuances that an artists painstakingly put in have been crushed by the engineer so it can compete with all the other overly compressed tracks on the radio. You haven't even downloaded the song and it's trash. That is the truth

92khz and even 192khz does not make a song better, nor does the stuff you are recording into do anything to make a song better. Garbage in, Garbage out.
dj_soo 12:25 AM - 21 January, 2012
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check the specs page SL2 vs 61/62 vs SL4.. and agreed DJ's don't care about 'sound quality' and 96khz wasn't included because of cost.. and yes most pepole are not playing 96khz NOW.. but then again go back a couple years and there were a TON of dj's not playing anything remotely close to uncompressed audio or 320k mp3


You're guys are talking about 2 different things. Headroom (bit depth) vs audio compression.

the 32 bit floating point and the 24 bit DACs are far more important than "perceieved audio upgrades of 96khz

No one plays back anything above 44khz unless you are an audiophile living with acousticly perfect rooms or headphones. Keep in mind, this is just one piece of a longer chain and unless your are mixing .wav files - you will never hear the extra headroom and dynamic range that 96khz gives you. 320k MP3 (still nowhere near the quality of .wav) going into your 96k mixer, then outputting to whatever BS system you are playing out of. You ever hear a song in a club, then play it in your headphones and say, wow, I never heard those sounds before? That's because by the time the sound leaves those overbassed subs and bounces off the wall and back into your ear it's muddled garbage. Not to mention, we aren't mixing hi-fidelity jazz.

Have you looked at pop music wave files? It looks like this:

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All those subtle nuances that an artists painstakingly put in have been crushed by the engineer so it can compete with all the other overly compressed tracks on the radio. You haven't even downloaded the song and it's trash. That is the truth

92khz and even 192khz does not make a song better, nor does the stuff you are recording into do anything to make a song better. Garbage in, Garbage out.


my point exactly anyone complaining about the lack of 96k support generally has no clue what they are talking about.
dj_soo 12:26 AM - 21 January, 2012
i have no problem with concerns and complaints - it's these ignorant people getting indignant over things that obviously don't understand that really gets to me...
pdidy 12:51 AM - 21 January, 2012
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check the specs page SL2 vs 61/62 vs SL4.. and agreed DJ's don't care about 'sound quality' and 96khz wasn't included because of cost.. and yes most pepole are not playing 96khz NOW.. but then again go back a couple years and there were a TON of dj's not playing anything remotely close to uncompressed audio or 320k mp3


You're guys are talking about 2 different things. Headroom (bit depth) vs audio compression.

the 32 bit floating point and the 24 bit DACs are far more important than "perceieved audio upgrades of 96khz

No one plays back anything above 44khz unless you are an audiophile living with acousticly perfect rooms or headphones. Keep in mind, this is just one piece of a longer chain and unless your are mixing .wav files - you will never hear the extra headroom and dynamic range that 96khz gives you. 320k MP3 (still nowhere near the quality of .wav) going into your 96k mixer, then outputting to whatever BS system you are playing out of. You ever hear a song in a club, then play it in your headphones and say, wow, I never heard those sounds before? That's because by the time the sound leaves those overbassed subs and bounces off the wall and back into your ear it's muddled garbage. Not to mention, we aren't mixing hi-fidelity jazz.

Have you looked at pop music wave files? It looks like this:

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All those subtle nuances that an artists painstakingly put in have been crushed by the engineer so it can compete with all the other overly compressed tracks on the radio. You haven't even downloaded the song and it's trash. That is the truth

92khz and even 192khz does not make a song better, nor does the stuff you are recording into do anything to make a song better. Garbage in, Garbage out.

what i was too lazy to say :}
damehype 1:20 AM - 21 January, 2012
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

Can somebody explain that so I can understand?


SL4 = highest end studio grade sound card offered... SL2 = lowest cheapest one available..

SL4 is for professional studio quality but apparently the 61/62/68 are not?



Furthermore, the SL2 does not possess the lowest quality sound card. The quality is identical to the SL3
s3kn0tr0n1c 1:22 AM - 21 January, 2012
Some folks dont seem to understand that the only difference between the xlr and trs/jack is the shape of connector...the level and sound quality are the same(+4db)

If you wanted to plug into house mixer/amp/whatever from the 61 then all you need is a cable that is xlr to trs.

Like - www.gak.co.uk

Obviously it was due to space(lack of) on back panel that rane chose the 1/4 TRS.

There is no reason to hate just because the shape is different...Just go and buy the correct cable for your purpose and you will have a GREAT sounding mixer(if 68 is anything to go by). Hating on this is just silly, who gives a fuk what shape a connector is, its what signals go down them that matters. And this has the PROPER output/signals for professional use (+4db, balanced).

I must say these mixers look DOPE....a (SL) turntabilst's dream with the basic fader section at front with nothing in the way of all 3 faders for all your fader trickery.

Also, the position of up-faders relative to crossfaders looks great for scratching on the xfader and cutting beat out on upfaders. ErG0Nom1cs Yall ;)
AKIEM 1:32 AM - 21 January, 2012
Who wants to mess around with an adepter?
aireyc 1:37 AM - 21 January, 2012
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It's not an adapter...
damehype 1:40 AM - 21 January, 2012
Last time I checked the 56 didn't have XLR either and tht mixer was pretty successful and borderline legendary
[O/][iii][O/] 1:45 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.
beezwax 1:46 AM - 21 January, 2012
just buy the right cable and you don't need an adapter. a cable with XLR on one end and BALANCED jack on the other will sound identical to a cable with XLR on both ends.

if you need to plug in to a bar/club system with XLRs then just bring adapters, or the Jack - XLR cables that you use at home.

or bite the bullet and splash out on the sixty two ;-)

if it was unbalanced jack then maybe it would matter but it's balanced so no biggie.

even with adapters it will sound way better than most mixers.....
[O/][iii][O/] 1:47 AM - 21 January, 2012
point obviously being missed
damehype 1:48 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.


Add the price of a 56S and an SL2... What do you get???
[O/][iii][O/] 1:50 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.


Add the price of a 56S and an SL2... What do you get???


A 57, which has XLR.
beezwax 1:52 AM - 21 January, 2012
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good point!

the sixty one rear panel looks pretty similar to the 56s

anyway, if you're really that bothered about price vs. features on the sixty-one, why not get a 57SL? XLRs and joysticks. should be a few deals around too. still no cupholders though....
beezwax 2:03 AM - 21 January, 2012
manufacturers have to distinguish between models somehow.

look at pioneer, they intentionally leave stuff off certain models so that people have to step up.

people were bitching for years about the CDJ800 not having +/- 6% pitch when the CDJ200 did but they had to differentiate somehow as people will always go for the cheapest option if they can. CDJ800 had the proper platter but no +/- pitch. it wasn't a cost issue because they could put it on a cheaper model but they needed to sell the higher models too so if you wanted a decent platter AND +/- 6% pitch you had to go with the CDJ1000mk3.

i couldn't give a shit about +/- 6% pitch but it worked great for pioneer because plenty of people ended up considering it essential.

if someone is considering sixty-one vs. sixty-two it's better (for rane) if they get more for their extra cash. seems like some people won't consider a mixer to be pro spec unless it has XLR outputs, so that may well help sales of the sixty two over the sixty one.

it's still way cheaper than a CDJ2000 and they sell just fine.....
lvmez 2:07 AM - 21 January, 2012
just sold my 57. can't wait for the 62.
damehype 2:07 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.


Add the price of a 56S and an SL2... What do you get???


A 57, which has XLR.


You don't get navigation and cue point controls with a 56S and SL2. The 61 almost has the equivalent of the SL3 built in minus 3rd deck capability. You're just being silly
pdidy 2:11 AM - 21 January, 2012
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You don't get navigation and cue point controls with a 56S and SL2. The 61 almost has the equivalent of the SL3 built in minus 3rd deck capability. You're just being silly

an lets not forget the 2 usb x 2dj switch over.
damehype 2:18 AM - 21 January, 2012
Not on the 61 P
AKIEM 2:21 AM - 21 January, 2012
the point is that there are no main XLRs to make room for a mic XLR.
Its a poor choice imo.
dj_soo 2:22 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.


Add the price of a 56S and an SL2... What do you get???


A 57, which has XLR.


You don't get navigation and cue point controls with a 56S and SL2. The 61 almost has the equivalent of the SL3 built in minus 3rd deck capability. You're just being silly


actually, since the Aux channel can be assigned seperately to the sp6 or bridge, it's closer to a 56s and an sl3 than an sl2 - that and you can record in the program...
damehype 2:39 AM - 21 January, 2012
^ What I basically said lol
BERTO 3:44 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.

Really? Dude you are so smart and the 56 has soundcard built in right? Cmon dude step off, we get it they disnt make your perfect mixer go cry about it on djforums.com :)
caliguy 4:30 AM - 21 January, 2012
If sound quality above 44khz, and XLR outs are not a concern or selling point, then why opt to buy them over the 57. In that case for some people here, its better to stick with the TTM57SL and use the Denon HC1000 as a TOTAL control package.

Don't get me wrong, I like the 62, but If I am trying to upgrade from a TTM57SL I need a little more incentive. Would Rane be willing to throw in the adapters? That would be great, that would show class from a world class mixer company.

Also the fact that people are not happy is actually a compliment to the admiration and the high esteem and high standards that Rane is held to. This is the ultimate compliment. Rane consumers are so super passionate about Rane that they take these decisions very personal. Good job Rane.
caliguy 4:33 AM - 21 January, 2012
----^ I meant if I am looking to upgrade from a TTM57SL to a 61 I need a little more incentive
damehype 4:35 AM - 21 January, 2012
You don't even really need the adapters nowadays. Most pro equipment is utilizing the combo jacks that will accept XLR or TRS. The 62, btw, does have XLR.
DJ Unique 4:37 AM - 21 January, 2012
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If sound quality above 44khz, and XLR outs are not a concern or selling point, then why opt to buy them over the 57. In that case for some people here, its better to stick with the TTM57SL and use the Denon HC1000 as a TOTAL control package.

Don't get me wrong, I like the 62, but If I am trying to upgrade from a TTM57SL I need a little more incentive. Would Rane be willing to throw in the adapters? That would be great, that would show class from a world class mixer company.

Also the fact that people are not happy is actually a compliment to the admiration and the high esteem and high standards that Rane is held to. This is the ultimate compliment. Rane consumers are so super passionate about Rane that they take these decisions very personal. Good job Rane.


Agree.

I still remember that Mojo MM8 mixer.
That quality on that mixer wasn't so good.
dj_soo 4:53 AM - 21 January, 2012
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If sound quality above 44khz, and XLR outs are not a concern or selling point, then why opt to buy them over the 57. In that case for some people here, its better to stick with the TTM57SL and use the Denon HC1000 as a TOTAL control package.


totally misinformed opinion.

48khz vs 96khz sample rate is negligible.

32-bit floating point audio processing, updated A/D converters, and updated audio components however will actually make a huge difference.

I have no doubt the new mixers will sound way better and have more headroom - hell, my SL3 sounds way better than the 57 as is... I've long been waiting for this upgrade since the 57 still keeps the old A/D convertors from the SL1 and the sound quality although not *bad* isn't great compared to using say, an SL2, 3, or 4. The 57 was the last in the Rane line to update the internals of their mixer.

As far as XLR vs TRS goes - there is no difference in sound but personally, I like to have balanced outs for both my mains and my booth out which the 61 doesn't have - that was my problem with the 56 and the 56S as well...
caliguy 6:10 AM - 21 January, 2012
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totally misinformed opinion.

48khz vs 96khz sample rate is negligible.

I understand that. The point I was making is that from a marketing standpoint you allways want to put your best foot forward. If I buy the SL4, part of the appeal may be that in the future a fellow DJ would be able to easily join in by means of the second USB. I may never ever use that feature but it may have been a deciding factor in my purchase.

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I have no doubt the new mixers will sound way better and have more headroom - hell, my SL3 sounds way better than the 57 as is..

Of coarse I also expect this. And this is a better selling point for me as well. Dont forget the SL3 is a very good sound card. It shouldn't come as a surprise to be way better sounding than the 57SL.

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Both the 61 and the 62 are sweet mixers. Its not that people cant live without the XLR out, its just that its expected from Rane. It's kinda like when you order french fries at the drive through and they dont include ketchup. Maybe that's not a good analogy, but I suspect that's what some people are feeling. Now for your request, most mixers in general dont offer two sets of balanced out. Some do but not the majority. I could see where that would be useful though.
Dj Bacik 6:56 AM - 21 January, 2012
Man, no xlr output? No biggie. No booth output? Thats where my problem is.
caliguy 7:24 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Does Session out double as booth out?
caliguy 7:35 AM - 21 January, 2012
Wait a minute here. Some people here have been stating that there are no joysticks, but thats not true. The 61 has two joysticks, and the 62 has a universal single joystick.
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:47 AM - 21 January, 2012
from what we know there just transform switches and offer no library control
DJ Dub Cowboy 7:50 AM - 21 January, 2012
The 62 joystick is just to control the internal effects beat increments
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:57 AM - 21 January, 2012
well i think it will be a sixty-two for me, will wait till after a few months in case there are any design flaws that get worked out in a new revision,

can't decide whether to keey my old 909 or sell it, also a 707 thats hasnt been used in a long time, tough parting with them even though they won't be used
caliguy 8:02 AM - 21 January, 2012
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The 62 joystick is just to control the internal effects beat increments

But then again these are MIDI capable, so that opens up the joysticks allot of possibilities.
caliguy 8:02 AM - 21 January, 2012
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But then again these are MIDI capable, so that opens up the joysticks allot of possibilities.
djdannyd 8:33 AM - 21 January, 2012
All 3 mixers are dope, if I had the cash I'd buy all 3 but funds are limited so I'll have to go for just the sixty two!
dj vegas 8:38 AM - 21 January, 2012
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Rane 's comeback was there is not enough space. The truth is they cut costs and thats just a shame when they are charging 1,500 and and expect you to work around it?!?!?!?


No offense but you are not a Rane employee. I think Shaun W. is more qualified to offer the truth as you put it. You can make your complaints, that is fine but please refrain from going overboard and offering opinion as truth.



really dude,,,, overboard lol you can't use the word truth get real!!!! you need to slow your roll for real that was a lame excuse and your getting all little big man on me lol woooo saaa bro!
dj vegas 8:39 AM - 21 January, 2012
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you are a not even close!!! sorry no one is saying the 100$ mixer is better or even close we are just saying that the option to have xlr's starts in mixers that are 14 times cheaper! Rane 's comeback was there is not enough space. The truth is they cut costs and thats just a shame when they are charging 1,500 and and expect you to work around it?!?!?!? "It" being the standard on mixers from 169$ to 2,500. LIke i said they could not make it fit? WWWWho cares that it is the same size as the 57 lol NOOOO ONE THATS A CHEAP COP OUT! LOL im not going to buy the 62 because its bigger than the 57 lol get the f&#K out of here!!!!


and post the full comment!!! you are a not even close!!! sorry no one is saying the 100$ mixer is better or even close we are just saying that the option to have xlr's starts in mixers that are 14 times cheaper! Rane 's comeback was there is not enough space. The truth is they cut costs and thats just a shame when they are charging 1,500 and and expect you to work around it?!?!?!? "It" being the standard on mixers from 169$ to 2,500. LIke i said they could not make it fit? WWWWho cares that it is the same size as the 57 lol NOOOO ONE THATS A CHEAP COP OUT! LOL im not going to buy the 62 because its bigger than the 57 lol get the f&#K out of here!!!!
dj vegas 8:41 AM - 21 January, 2012
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I will say at this point no one cares! People are going to work around it and thats cool:)



and this was my last post lol im really a bad guy lol
dj_soo 9:04 AM - 21 January, 2012
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I understand that. The point I was making is that from a marketing standpoint you allways want to put your best foot forward. If I buy the SL4, part of the appeal may be that in the future a fellow DJ would be able to easily join in by means of the second USB. I may never ever use that feature but it may have been a deciding factor in my purchase.


see I think if they put 96khz support in, it likely would have upped the price and it was a toss-up - considering one of the biggest complaints the 68 got was the price.

Likely neither of these mixers is that cheap to manufacture and if cutting a feature that 99.9% of DJs aren't going to use saves a hundred or so bucks on the price tag, then it probably was worth it.

The problem is how a percentage of those DJs that are never going to use this feature can't understand how the feature is essentially useless and go on to bitch despite the fact their opinions are completely uninformed.

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there is a booth output - it's just labeled as the "session out" instead of the "booth out" - unfortunately it's only unbalanced RCA.
dj_soo 9:06 AM - 21 January, 2012
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that's the thing though - one of their most popular mixers also never had XLR outs - so why would people expect every one of their mixers to have it when it's not included in the 56?
dj vegas 9:08 AM - 21 January, 2012
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I honestly don't know sorry. When the engineers are back in the office from NAMM, I'll ask :)
this would have made sense!
djdannyd 9:17 AM - 21 January, 2012
why are we still talking about 96 kHz sound cards? Lets ask this question again and hope that it gets answered correctly. How many music files are you playing with that are 96khz?
AKIEM 9:52 AM - 21 January, 2012
The 61 looks like it's targeted as the battle mixer, the tour mixer, meaning lots of different venues and stages. Who's going to carry around extra adapters and -cables-? No offence but whoever advised that an xlr on the mic input was more important then xlr mains is wrong. I seldom if ever plug mics into my mixers, and I bet the only djs who do are wedding djs. is the 61 a mobile mixer, is it a home mixer? Yes it's cool to throw effects on a beatbox demonstration or whatever, but in reality, the mic input especially on a battle/show/performance mixer should be the last consideration, an afterthought.

When I modified my 56 I took the mic input off, and never missed it, never thought about it.

It would be much easier to just make sure you have a 1/4 mic cable then dealing with di boxes and whatever sound men are working with.

imo
Kadilac 9:58 AM - 21 January, 2012
THis video is informative!!

Behind the Rane Sixty One and Sixty Two: Interview with Serato and Rane

youtu.be

But then this video done on Dec 21si, just made me want to keep my 57!!

youtu.be
[O/][iii][O/] 1:17 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.

Really? Dude you are so smart and the 56 has soundcard built in right? Cmon dude step off, we get it they disnt make your perfect mixer go cry about it on djforums.com :)


• Yes, really... and no, the 56 does not have a built-in soundcard. Reference: www.rane.com

• Last time I checked, djforums.com has been offline for about a year now. Besides, if Rane customers want their opinions, needs and desires heard by Rane (and Serato) I'd think this this forum is a much better avenue for achieving that considering representatives from those respective companies moderate it.

Note: I/we wouldn't be "crying" about any of this stuff it didn't matter to us. Like someone else said earlier above, Rane users are a passionate bunch and this feedback is out of love, not hate.
nik39 1:46 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Yes and I could ask 300 people on the street about my health issue but I'll go ahead and ask the doctors. No offense to the people on this board, many of whom are better DJs than I, but look how much time here is spent bickering, it's simply not a very good format for getting constructive feedback.
And can you imagine the bizarre rumors etc about rane's future if they posted a thread saying "hey we are releasing a new mixer should it have XLR or 1/4 outs?" The first 5 posts would be about traktor and the next five would be about the sync button.

Hahaha. :) Right on spot!

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Don't get me wrong, I like the 62, but If I am trying to upgrade from a TTM57SL I need a little more incentive. Would Rane be willing to throw in the adapters? That would be great, that would show class from a world class mixer company.

The 62 has all the connections you need. No need for an adapter.

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Sort of. Previously you had 3 independent outputs:
1. AUX - unbalanced RCA
2. Booth - balanced jack
3. Main - balanced XLR

Now you only have two outputs: One balanced, one balanced.

For those needing three outputs this is a downgrade. I always found it helpful to have all three outputs *and* being able to plug and play (Rane+Serato were emphasizing that this was on their mind when designing the mixer) *without* the hassle of caring about an adapter.

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THis video is informative!!

Behind the Rane Sixty One and Sixty Two: Interview with Serato and Rane

youtu.be

Indeed!
damehype 1:51 PM - 21 January, 2012
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The 61 looks like it's targeted as the battle mixer, the tour mixer, meaning lots of different venues and stages. Who's going to carry around extra adapters and -cables-? No offence but whoever advised that an xlr on the mic input was more important then xlr mains is wrong. I seldom if ever plug mics into my mixers, and I bet the only djs who do are wedding djs. is the 61 a mobile mixer, is it a home mixer? Yes it's cool to throw effects on a beatbox demonstration or whatever, but in reality, the mic input especially on a battle/show/performance mixer should be the last consideration, an afterthought.

When I modified my 56 I took the mic input off, and never missed it, never thought about it.

It would be much easier to just make sure you have a 1/4 mic cable then dealing with di boxes and whatever sound men are working with.

imo


And that's the point. Being that this is targeted as a tour mixer, you'd likely be plugging in to the sound engineer's main board, not directly to a set of powered speakers. Which means XLR is not needed. Hell, it's not needed with a pair of powered speakers. Most of you are playing in bars or smaller clubs so definitely not needed. If you are playing in a large club, more than likely a sound engineer is employed and can hook you into the system by any means. At one of my residencies, I bring my Pio 400 which has (gasp) RCA outs only. I get no complaints about my SQ.
damehype 1:54 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.

Really? Dude you are so smart and the 56 has soundcard built in right? Cmon dude step off, we get it they disnt make your perfect mixer go cry about it on djforums.com :)


• Yes, really... and no, the 56 does not have a built-in soundcard. Reference: www.rane.com

• Last time I checked, djforums.com has been offline for about a year now. Besides, if Rane customers want their opinions, needs and desires heard by Rane (and Serato) I'd think this this forum is a much better avenue for achieving that considering representatives from those respective companies moderate it.

Note: I/we wouldn't be "crying" about any of this stuff it didn't matter to us. Like someone else said earlier above, Rane users are a passionate bunch and this feedback is out of love, not hate.


You kinda reinforced my point. You said the 56 is half the price of the 61. Well what does the 61 have that the 56 doesn't? That's right... A built in sound card. So doesn't it make sense to be almost double the cost of a 56S?
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Yep, and last time I checked the 56 is about half the price as a 61.

Really? Dude you are so smart and the 56 has soundcard built in right? Cmon dude step off, we get it they disnt make your perfect mixer go cry about it on djforums.com :)


• Yes, really... and no, the 56 does not have a built-in soundcard. Reference: www.rane.com

• Last time I checked, djforums.com has been offline for about a year now. Besides, if Rane customers want their opinions, needs and desires heard by Rane (and Serato) I'd think this this forum is a much better avenue for achieving that considering representatives from those respective companies moderate it.

Note: I/we wouldn't be "crying" about any of this stuff it didn't matter to us. Like someone else said earlier above, Rane users are a passionate bunch and this feedback is out of love, not hate.


You kinda reinforced my point. You said the 56 is half the price of the 61. Well what does the 61 have that the 56 doesn't? That's right... A built in sound card. So doesn't it make sense to be almost double the cost of a 56S?


Yes, of course it makes sense, but what we are saying is that at a $1500 pricepoint it should have XLRs since that's what we encounter 99% time in field. It's silly to have to adapt things and create workarounds at that pricepoint. We understand the space issue, but not at the expense trading a MIC XLR for MAINS. This has been explained numerous times by many in this thread.
The Return of Dj Sparky 2:26 PM - 21 January, 2012
has there been a offical price release or just what agiprodj are showing?
damehype 2:37 PM - 21 January, 2012
I've heard $1299 street
DJ Dynamight 2:41 PM - 21 January, 2012
what if the 61 had XLR, would it be perfect?
nik39 2:49 PM - 21 January, 2012
The MAP is $1399 says Mike May from Rane here:
Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ JT Stevens 3:34 PM - 21 January, 2012
Not sure if this vid has been posted yet, apologies if it has, but here's Rafael from Rane giving a brief overview and demo of the 62.

Watchwww.youtube.com
lvmez 4:45 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Watchwww.youtube.com


what's map for the 62?
DJ JT Stevens 4:46 PM - 21 January, 2012
In the video that nik posted, towards the end Mike says the MAP for the 62 is $1999 and the 62-Z is $2099.
lvmez 4:54 PM - 21 January, 2012
I was hoping the 62 was $1800. oh well.
DJ JT Stevens 5:04 PM - 21 January, 2012
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I hear you, would make it a little easier to justify. Might just pick up a 57 from eBay to compliment my DJM-800, since I'm sure people will be offloading 57's quickly. Just started getting into VSL so even the "old" 57 looks appealing to me right now.

Wonder if Rane will drop the price on the 57 so distributors can make room for the 61 and 62. If I can get a new 57 for $100-$200 more than a used one I rather do that instead.
BERTO 5:12 PM - 21 January, 2012
Alto music will have it for less they have always had the 57 for 1259 ither dealers 1499
lvmez 5:23 PM - 21 January, 2012
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I hear you, would make it a little easier to justify. Might just pick up a 57 from eBay to compliment my DJM-800, since I'm sure people will be offloading 57's quickly. Just started getting into VSL so even the "old" 57 looks appealing to me right now.

Wonder if Rane will drop the price on the 57 so distributors can make room for the 61 and 62. If I can get a new 57 for $100-$200 more than a used one I rather do that instead.


just sold my 57. will be without a mixer for a few weeks.
DJ JT Stevens 5:28 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Thanks Berto, I'll keep an eye out over there.

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That sucks man. You going to pull the trigger on the 62? Hope you get a good deal on one.
nik39 5:41 PM - 21 January, 2012
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If it is an official Rane Dealer, then they have to respect the MAP.

That doesn't mean that they are not allowed to sell it for less, just that they are not allowed to advertise a lower price.

Ask your dealer, they might give you a better deal.
BERTO 5:56 PM - 21 January, 2012
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If it is an official Rane Dealer, then they have to respect the MAP.

That doesn't mean that they are not allowed to sell it for less, just that they are not allowed to advertise a lower price.

Ask your dealer, they might give you a better deal.

They dont advertise lower than MAP i personally dont like them bc they are cocky assholes but they do beat alot of prices out there
L2daGee 6:01 PM - 21 January, 2012
For all those bitching about not having three outputs: the session out Is the third output. Do some research before complaining ignorantly.
nik39 6:02 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Are you talking about the 61?
djsmuve415 6:44 PM - 21 January, 2012
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The 61 looks like it's targeted as the battle mixer, the tour mixer, meaning lots of different venues and stages. Who WANTS to carry around extra adapters and -cables-? No offence but whoever advised that an xlr on the mic input was more important then xlr mains is wrong. I seldom if ever plug mics into my mixers, and I bet the only djs who do are wedding djs. is the 61 a mobile mixer, is it a home mixer?

^Added.. But I couldn't have said this better myself. And dare I add that in some spots space is at a premium - & do you know how much room there is for big ass adapters protruding out of the rear of the mixer?? Not much! Yall can ramble on defending it about it having balanced, same sounding 1/4 TS outputs - but this was a major overlook on their part. and don't even get me started on the Session out for a booth - thats flat laughable at that price point....
But hey......... it does have a split cue now. SMH
iNBiTuiN 7:39 PM - 21 January, 2012
If I ever buy any of these new mixers, I'm replacing the knobs again. No bueno.
ancientyouth 7:41 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Henry GQ 7:50 PM - 21 January, 2012
Watchwww.youtube.com


i gotta say that z-trip did a great job of using alot of the features within the 62! alot of the previous djs that serato had demo-ing previous mixers were at best average at showing features and what u could do with those efx/cues/loops as well..

i also like how serato had professional videos done this time as well.. i was very critical of this in the past and could not understand why pioneer had all these heavily produced videos and serato had nothing...

cheers! and im proud to be a serato dj
BERTO 7:51 PM - 21 January, 2012
Im down for a 62 they delivered with split cue and 2 usb for switching djs, that is what people wanted and they got it, also usb2.0.
DJ JT Stevens 8:06 PM - 21 January, 2012
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i gotta say that z-trip did a great job of using alot of the features within the 62! alot of the previous djs that serato had demo-ing previous mixers were at best average at showing features and what u could do with those efx/cues/loops as well..

i also like how serato had professional videos done this time as well.. i was very critical of this in the past and could not understand why pioneer had all these heavily produced videos and serato had nothing...

cheers! and im proud to be a serato dj

+1

Just finished watching that video myself and thought Z-Trip really demonstrated what this mixer can do, yet I know there's plenty more. There's also this video where he explains the design process and how he was aiming for a mixer that was a cross between a 68 and a 57 both ergonomically and functionally.

Watchwww.youtube.com

Good stuff.
s3kn0tr0n1c 8:25 PM - 21 January, 2012
luving the hot cues for the headphones.

THAT NEEDS to be an option for 68 ;)
DJWALDO 8:27 PM - 21 January, 2012
I can't read all this shit.... I have a cure for EVERYONE


IF PRICE IS YOUR PROBLEM STOP FUCKING DJING AND GO WORK AT MCDONALDS.
WE made the market what is is. All the manufacturer does is look at how we just spend money like it's nothing and have the balls to charge it. That's business. Get over it. Vinyl going for $100 like it's standard. One Two and Three Hundred dollars on midi controllers. Needles up to over $300. Pioneer charging 2 grand for a fucking cd player. I don't give a shit what neat tricks it can do my car cd player can do all that shit and show me a movie for $500 all you need is to be able to do is link it to another car and put a platter on it and viola. And we pay it! All these arguments I see come down to the root of "it does or doesn't do this for this price" STFU that's where we are at now. Deal with it or stay home.
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SL2 = rane's LOWEST end soundcard.. (the SL1 is discontinued)

THE SL2 is the soundcard used in the 62/61 ..

so if you dont have a problem paying $2,000 for a mixer w/ the companies lowest end soundcard.. by all means go ahead


Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

If limiting it 48 saves me a couple hundred dollars, I'm all for it because 99.9% of Djs - myself included - have absolutely ZERO chance of ever needing a 96k card integer Dj mixer.


then why even have it in the SL4?

Can somebody explain that so I can understand?


SL4 = highest end studio grade sound card offered... SL2 = lowest cheapest one available..

SL4 is for professional studio quality but apparently the 61/62/68 are not?


wow - you have no idea what you're talking about.

#1 - the 61/62 does not have an sl2 inside - the 62 has TWO 10 in/6-out sound cards, the 61 has one 6-in/4out sound card
#2 - not including 96 k support was likely a decision in order to lower the cost of the mixer because it is IRRELEVANT TO DJS it will only matter to producers who are ONLY playing their own tunes and EVEN THEN I don't know of ANY professional music producers that play many 96k tunes.

again it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you don't even know that 96khz sample rate means.


check the specs page SL2 vs 61/62 vs SL4.. and agreed DJ's don't care about 'sound quality' and 96khz wasn't included because of cost.. and yes most pepole are not playing 96khz NOW.. but then again go back a couple years and there were a TON of dj's not playing anything remotely close to uncompressed audio or 320k mp3


the "specs" are more than just the sample rate support.

go back a couple years and DJs were playing cds and vinyl - no one but the biggest wavies were playing any less than 192 and even then, 320 was the standard FOR DJs - yes, listeners were all about 128k 10 years ago, but listeners were also all about re-dubbed cassette tape recordings of radio 20 years ago.

again, you don't have the faintest clue as to what you're talking about. "CD quality" has been the norm since the 80s and that's 44.1 and this has not changed in decades.

Apple is now talking about possibly introducing 24-bit files but that's still years away.

NO ONE other than RECORDING ENGINEERS and MUSIC PRODUCERS will be working with 96k files - and even those completed projects will be converted down to the standard (44.1) so that it will be support existed hardware. These people WILL NOT use a Dj mixer for PROFESSIONAL RECORDING setups they have their own dedicated hardware for their setups - NOT a dj mixer

again, if you actually tell me why YOU or ANY OTHER DJ in the world needs 96k then I will possibly listen to your arguments but so far the only thing you seem to think is "OMG 96 IS A HIGHER NUMBER THAN 48!!!!! THIS MACHINE SUCKS!!"


Because I'm a Recording Engineer, Producer, and DJ. Thx.
djaction 8:58 PM - 21 January, 2012
You argument is basically that the SL4 is better.. but DJ's dont need it. Comes off as sounding like a RANE apologist imo.
damehype 10:02 PM - 21 January, 2012
^ Just because you make beats in Ableton doesn't make you a recording engineer and producer
Dj Shamann 10:28 PM - 21 January, 2012
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Not true, I'm not a wedding Dj and I use mics all the time, so do most Dj's I know. I prefer the XLR mic input but that being said...

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If that truly is the case, i would much rather take the 1/4 mic input if it meant having XLR outs.

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there is a booth output - it's just labeled as the "session out" instead of the "booth out" - unfortunately it's only unbalanced RCA.


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Now you only have two outputs: One balanced, one balanced.

For those needing three outputs this is a downgrade. I always found it helpful to have all three outputs *and* being able to plug and play (Rane+Serato were emphasizing that this was on their mind when designing the mixer) *without* the hassle of caring about an adapter.



This affects me as I use all 3 outs.



This is all spilled milk anyway at this point, let it be known that i'm not participating in any mixer "flame fest", I'm just voicing my disappointment in the 61 since at first glance it was the one I was interested in, my disappointment stems from something that should be a key feature, I'm not disappointed over something cosmetic or superficial. Now if I'm to look at any of the new mixers I have to buy the one that has a bunch of extras I don't care about just to get the one feature that I find necessary.

So what would've been "alright I'm getting a new mixer" is "should I get the new mixer or just stay with my 57 which does just fine other than an SP6 coming down the aux pipe, which is not that crucial in terms of shelling out 2 grand to get it"
Dj Shamann 10:29 PM - 21 January, 2012
It's not the end of the world and I'm not leading a pitch fork mob against Rane, again just throwing it out there.
jevo9 11:36 PM - 21 January, 2012
So who's all ordering from Agi pro dj? Seems like they want to sell it at map
Trinicapone 11:38 PM - 21 January, 2012
Ok how would the 62 work with the BRIDGE. If the SP-6 NATIVE output is AUX then what would the bridge NATIVE output be? Is it gonna be like the TTM-57 (My new back-up mixer)
Trinicapone 11:39 PM - 21 January, 2012
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So who's all ordering from Agi pro dj? Seems like they want to sell it at map

Going to Americanmusical.com for mine!
Trinicapone 11:40 PM - 21 January, 2012
^^^^^^ No Tax!^^^^^^
lvmez 11:50 PM - 21 January, 2012
pro audio star for me.
jevo9 12:02 AM - 22 January, 2012
Anyone out there if let me know what prices your getting.. I like Agi pro dj because there's no tax but I'm sure other places will sell this cheaper
DJMark 12:05 AM - 22 January, 2012
1) The only real issue I have with TRS versus XLR is long-term durability of the connectors (tends to be better for XLR), and what happens with the audio if there's an accidental disconnection with the sound system turned on. XLR's are designed to disconnect the ground LAST (helps to prevent bad noises), while with TRS you get a much "dirtier" disconnection.

2) Prices: Rane is the only major DJ-equipment manufacturer that hasn't "offshored" or "outsourced" their manufacturing. They also offer way better service and support than any other DJ equipment manufacturer. They also use better-grade internal components than most other manufacturers (including Pioneer). All of those things cost money.

3) 96kHz sample rate only matters if you have access to high-resolution premasters AND your target audience is dogs, cats, bats, etc.
the_black_one 12:08 AM - 22 January, 2012
LOL @ dogs cats and bats
dj_soo 12:33 AM - 22 January, 2012
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Ok how would the 62 work with the BRIDGE. If the SP-6 NATIVE output is AUX then what would the bridge NATIVE output be? Is it gonna be like the TTM-57 (My new back-up mixer)


i'm assuming you can can assign both to the aux - whether you can assign both at the same time needs to be answered by someone at Rane...
Trinicapone 12:43 AM - 22 January, 2012
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Ok how would the 62 work with the BRIDGE. If the SP-6 NATIVE output is AUX then what would the bridge NATIVE output be? Is it gonna be like the TTM-57 (My new back-up mixer)


i'm assuming you can can assign both to the aux - whether you can assign both at the same time needs to be answered by someone at Rane...

It seems like everyone forgot to mention that! Or maybe Serato/Rane was asked to not mention Ableton cause something must be in the works. When the Rane Sixty eight was announced the Bridge was plastered all over it.
Rebelguy 1:26 AM - 22 January, 2012
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So who's all ordering from Agi pro dj? Seems like they want to sell it at map


All stores have to list the map price. They cannot advertise a lower price without violating their agreement with Rane. Agiprodj.com has always given me the best prices and offer no tax and free shipping. They also go above and beyond to feature videos on the their products. You may save a few bucks going with another dealer but given their customer service and what they bring to the dj community I really can't see myself go shopping anywhere else.
Dj Nyce 2:55 AM - 22 January, 2012
damn can we get a group buy or an effin discount for being a longtime forum member or for owning 57?
L2daGee 3:14 AM - 22 January, 2012
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Are you talking about the 61?



Nope the 62
dj_soo 3:59 AM - 22 January, 2012
I think we need Separate 62 and 61 threads...
nik39 5:15 AM - 22 January, 2012
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Are you talking about the 61?



Nope the 62

No one is complaining about not having three outputs on the 62 because it has three outputs
Dj Ace 7:16 AM - 22 January, 2012
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Ok how would the 62 work with the BRIDGE. If the SP-6 NATIVE output is AUX then what would the bridge NATIVE output be? Is it gonna be like the TTM-57 (My new back-up mixer)


i'm assuming you can can assign both to the aux - whether you can assign both at the same time needs to be answered by someone at Rane...

It seems like everyone forgot to mention that! Or maybe Serato/Rane was asked to not mention Ableton cause something must be in the works. When the Rane Sixty eight was announced the Bridge was plastered all over it.



you can assign both aux and the bridge to the USB Aux at the SAME time
dj_soo 7:23 AM - 22 January, 2012
the more i read about it, the more i want a 62
the_black_one 7:36 AM - 22 January, 2012
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TMI
DJBIGWIZ 8:05 AM - 22 January, 2012
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The built-in effects are user customizable. For example, the echo has options for normal echo, low-cut echo, hold echo and etc, with adjustable low-cut frequency slider.


are the built in effects on the sixty eight not customizable at all then?

sorry if i'm being thick.....

As far as the built in effects in the Sixty-Two... you can choose 4 different types of Filter, 2 types of flanger and 4 different echo.
DJ Tecniq 8:20 AM - 22 January, 2012
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-------> imageshack.us
Why did it have to cover her breasties :(
DJBIGWIZ 8:21 AM - 22 January, 2012
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No kill switches ?????


I really dont use my kills on my 57 like I thought I would. But they are nice to have


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I use the kills all the time. I can use the knob but it sounds much sharper when you have a kill switch.


There are no kill switches on the mixer BUT... since you can access the DJ FX from the mixer, set up 3 of them to be a 1-hi cut, 2 mid cut and 3 low cut and you have your kills and you can use the Flex FX button on each channel to choose which channel you are cutting out.
AKIEM 9:04 AM - 22 January, 2012
Wiz, question: the 62 receives midi time, does it by any chance receive regular midi? My hopes is that the decision to nix the foot switch is in the mixer can be controlled by an external midi device?
DJBIGWIZ 9:28 AM - 22 January, 2012
well as far as a foot switch, you can get a 3 button usb midi foot switch that is not much more than a regular foot switch and is more powerful.
logidy.com
AKIEM 9:33 AM - 22 January, 2012
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well as far as a foot switch, you can get a 3 button usb midi foot switch that is not much more than a regular foot switch and is more powerful.
logidy.com


Right, but can the mixer be controlled? Meaning the FlexFX and the internal effects. I'm guessing not. Which means once agin passed over is what I feel would have been the most important new feature - controlling the FlexFX with a foot switch.
DJBIGWIZ 9:52 AM - 22 January, 2012
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logidy.com


Right, but can the mixer be controlled? Meaning the FlexFX and the internal effects. I'm guessing not. Which means once agin passed over is what I feel would have been the most important new feature - controlling the FlexFX with a foot switch.

not 100% sure so i don't wanna give you wrong info either way... I"ll let you know.
AKIEM 10:03 AM - 22 January, 2012
Word.
Dj Nyce 12:57 PM - 22 January, 2012
quick question what is the advantage or purpose of controlling the flexfx with a foot switch?
AKIEM 1:53 PM - 22 January, 2012
Applying an effect -delay- while scratching. You can't push the record, open the fader, and hit the flexFx all at the same time.
aireyc 5:37 PM - 22 January, 2012
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Applying an effect -delay- while scratching. You can't push the record, open the fader, and hit the flexFx all at the same time.


If you're in the Swedish House Mafia you can: bassdownload.com
[O/][iii][O/] 6:14 PM - 22 January, 2012
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If you're in the Swedish House Mafia you can: bassdownload.com


If you're in the Swedish House Mafia you can just play pre-recorded sets on CD and waive your arms around. Watchwww.youtube.com
Kool DJ Sheak One 6:38 PM - 22 January, 2012
Wow, what a boring douchebag.^^
I couldn't do it! Why be there?
It's like being a famous race car driver, but you don't drive.
BERTO 6:38 PM - 22 January, 2012
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If you're in the Swedish House Mafia you can just play pre-recorded sets on CD and waive your arms around. Watchwww.youtube.com

the new Mastermind everyone
Henry GQ 4:50 AM - 23 January, 2012
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If you're in the Swedish House Mafia you can just play pre-recorded sets on CD and waive your arms around. Watchwww.youtube.com



wow what a shame. and therees sooo many guys that would kill to be there spinnin live. smh in disgust
Culprit 5:07 AM - 23 January, 2012
I think before we go assuming anything

"Guys he admitted this was prerecorded... his lighting and fx team needed time to sync the firework show at the end of Angello's performance. Thus, Angello was required to play a pre-recorded "medley mix" in order to sync the music with the firework show. However the pre-recorded part of the set was only the last 11 minutes Angello noted for a grand finale.. This happens at almost all major music festivals."

Was a user comment on that video post..
DJ Frank Labate 5:41 AM - 23 January, 2012
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I think before we go assuming anything

"Guys he admitted this was prerecorded... his lighting and fx team needed time to sync the firework show at the end of Angello's performance. Thus, Angello was required to play a pre-recorded "medley mix" in order to sync the music with the firework show. However the pre-recorded part of the set was only the last 11 minutes Angello noted for a grand finale.. This happens at almost all major music festivals."

Was a user comment on that video post..

Doesn't cut it for me. Lame ass excuse. For real so every band or DJ that uses pyrotechnics plays a prerecorded set so that they match up perfectly? No! The guy has two CDJ-2000s. Using cue points alone you could almost perfectly time a mix like that with ease.
willythekidd 6:02 AM - 23 January, 2012
we will never know.

now back to the 61/62.
Culprit 6:03 AM - 23 January, 2012
anyways.. the new mixers are out, should we consider this thread done?
Culprit 6:04 AM - 23 January, 2012
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now back to the 61/62.


ya beat me 2 it! :)
caliguy 6:40 AM - 23 January, 2012
Hold on a second!
The 61 at $1399 MAP? If this is true, this changes everything for me. At this price with all these great features, I can buy adapters all day long. I won't care abut what type of outs it uses.
dj vegas 8:21 AM - 23 January, 2012
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The 61 at $1399 MAP? If this is true, this changes everything for me. At this price with all these great features, I can buy adapters all day long. I won't care abut what type of outs it uses.

Good on ya bro thats what we where saying at a grand the mixer is dope with out xlr's! For 1500 its its kinda crazy. I lost my cool posting about this earlier and want to say sorry to Chad and the other Guy! The best thing to do is not wait for some show, but to throw a concept out there and run with it! Look how big one stupid over site like xlr's have created. P.s getting info back from rane "yes men" did not work as you can see:( Im still not sure what you would have changed but at least you guys and use would not be so blind sided.

Now to a real question i have the 68 and the filter on the bottom of the thigh,mid,low is awesome!!!! It give a clean cut at the end of a 32 "phase mix" i think is the name ?" mixing over the courses" . What on a 62 can i map to make the same fx? thanks
dj vegas 8:24 AM - 23 January, 2012
ps not just because im selling my 68 but lol man people are dumping 68's and 57's lol i may just wait to get the 62 when the 63 comes out:)
DJ Dub Cowboy 8:44 AM - 23 January, 2012
The 62 has the same filter. It's even more adjustable than the one on the 68 (currently) because you can adjust the resonance in the Scratch Live setup screen
DJ Pullout 1:45 PM - 23 January, 2012
I cant believe this thread is still going......
HandsomeRobDJ 1:54 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Do you even have a clue what the difference is between 96k and 48k?

#1 - the 61/62 does not have an sl2 inside - the 62 has TWO 10 in/6-out sound cards, the 61 has one 6-in/4out sound card
#2 - not including 96 k support was likely a decision in order to lower the cost of the mixer because it is IRRELEVANT TO DJS it will only matter to producers who are ONLY playing their own tunes and EVEN THEN I don't know of ANY professional music producers that play many 96k tunes.

again it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you don't even know that 96khz sample rate means.

While it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you're not looking at WHAT (not "that") you're typing before clicking post, I'm man enough to admit that I don't know and ask. If it's not too PAINFUL could you post a simple explanation, please?
s3kn0tr0n1c 2:43 PM - 23 January, 2012
96khz means 96 thousand samples a second of your music.

Best reading about analogue to digital conversion.

en.wikipedia.org
ral 3:23 PM - 23 January, 2012
beat junkies
Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ Wade-West 4:06 PM - 23 January, 2012
^ not the tightest performance IMO...
PopRoXxX 4:41 PM - 23 January, 2012
I would like to know (and I read "most" of this thread already):

Are the cue/loop buttons hard plastic (like the 68) or silicon (like the dicers)?

(*fingers crossed*)
DJ GaFFle 4:48 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Not at all but JRocc got bizzee with that Drummer's Beat!
damehype 4:48 PM - 23 January, 2012
Hard, but different
PopRoXxX 4:54 PM - 23 January, 2012
DAMMIT!!!

Different how? Are they at least softer and more friendly to beat makers fingers like myself (akai drum pad style)
PopRoXxX 4:56 PM - 23 January, 2012
At least BETTER than the 68? I played on a 68 for 5-6 months and loved everything but the up faders and the freakin' hard plastic buttons. Went back to my 57 just for the feel and got rid of the 68. LOL!

The 62 has all magnetic faders (which was one of my checklist features), but the buttons will be my ultimate deciding factor. Hopefully softer with a drum pad feel??
Rane, Support
Chad S. 5:00 PM - 23 January, 2012
they are not rubber. Here is the thing, you have to touch them and trigger them to understand. You really do. Anyone who has will tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Did you see Z-trip on the news rocking the cues? L. A. L. A. K.T.L.A. L.A.

They are a plastic and not rubber. The cues have such a small travel that if it was rubber there would be no way for them to react with precise timing like the plastic can. Rubber squishes and with the amount of travel these have you would basically be doing twice the work and we know even a fraction of a second can toss any performer off beat. So these are plastic and have minimal tavel.

Like I said, talk to anyone who has touched them and your fears will be put to rest. I refer to gettting "nintendo" on them. Seriously up up down down left right left right b a b a select start. You can rapid fire on these things :)
caliguy 5:03 PM - 23 January, 2012
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The 61 at $1399 MAP? If this is true, this changes everything for me. At this price with all these great features, I can buy adapters all day long. I won't care abut what type of outs it uses.

Good on ya bro thats what we where saying at a grand the mixer is dope with out xlr's! For 1500 its its kinda crazy

I know what you mean. I am not disagreeing with you, I am agreeing with you. Price has allot to do with it so we shall have to wait and see. Best thing Rane can do is include the low profile adapters so that they can fit within the coffin, etc.

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I was hoping so badly for a 3 channel plus Auxiliary like the Empath. So I dont know if I want to pick up the 62 or hold on to my Empath, SL3 and Denon HC1000. Either way I'll probably keep the HC1000, it cant be beat!
Alixx J 5:04 PM - 23 January, 2012
Excellent! That's the only reason why I sold my 68. If that's the case on the 62, I'm definitely getting one! Just waiting to see what the uk prices will be...
DJ JT Stevens 5:10 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Like I said, talk to anyone who has touched them and your fears will be put to rest. I refer to gettting "nintendo" on them. Seriously up up down down left right left right b a b a select start. You can rapid fire on these things :)

So is this confirmation that inputting the Contra code on the 62 unlocks some sort of Easter egg in SSL?
PopRoXxX 5:15 PM - 23 January, 2012
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they are not rubber. Here is the thing, you have to touch them and trigger them to understand. You really do. Anyone who has will tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Did you see Z-trip on the news rocking the cues? L. A. L. A. K.T.L.A. L.A.

They are a plastic and not rubber. The cues have such a small travel that if it was rubber there would be no way for them to react with precise timing like the plastic can. Rubber squishes and with the amount of travel these have you would basically be doing twice the work and we know even a fraction of a second can toss any performer off beat. So these are plastic and have minimal tavel.

Like I said, talk to anyone who has touched them and your fears will be put to rest. I refer to gettting "nintendo" on them. Seriously up up down down left right left right b a b a select start. You can rapid fire on these things :)


Ok. How do they compare to the hard plastic buttons on the 68? Better or the same??
caliguy 5:16 PM - 23 January, 2012
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They are a plastic and not rubber. The cues have such a small travel that if it was rubber there would be no way for them to react with precise timing like the plastic can. Rubber squishes and with the amount of travel these have you would basically be doing twice the work and we know even a fraction of a second can toss any performer off beat. So these are plastic and have minimal tavel.

Hard plastic= precision and durability
Rubber buttons = better feel

Personaly I like the way the rubber buttons feel except you stop liking them when you realize that if they are not rigid enough, they can sometimes not trigger correctly. Ideally the best option is a combination of both, THIN layer of rubber over hard plastic along with a path guide similiar to the guide around the Play/Stop Technics 1200 button. Providing a plastic guide around that Technics button was not an accident, its always accurate.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 5:34 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Seriously, watch the Z-trip video. Here is a link to the Official Rane Dj page and the first video listed is the one I'm talking about. Check it out - www.facebook.com
djdannyd 5:40 PM - 23 January, 2012
I was there at NAMM and played with both the sixty one and sixty two and all the buttons are VERY responsive. The may not have the rubbery feel as some of you want, but they felt good to me. I will be getting the sixty two when it comes out. 100% pure awesome!!!
PopRoXxX 5:51 PM - 23 January, 2012
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they are not rubber. Here is the thing, you have to touch them and trigger them to understand. You really do. Anyone who has will tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Did you see Z-trip on the news rocking the cues? L. A. L. A. K.T.L.A. L.A.


Seriously, watch the Z-trip video. Here is a link to the Official Rane Dj page and the first video listed is the one I'm talking about. Check it out - www.facebook.com


Gotcha. But it still didn't show me what I was asking. Reponse? Yes, and great. But the feel? I prob won't get to try a 62 before I want to buy one. So ... are they the same/similar to 68 or different/better??

And can someone explain to me why rubber/silicon is "not as" responsive? Cause I don't understand this statement:

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The cues have such a small travel that if it was rubber there would be no way for them to react with precise timing like the plastic can. Rubber squishes and with the amount of travel these have you would basically be doing twice the work and we know even a fraction of a second can toss any performer off beat.


I mean, for me, they are pretty responsive on my AKAI, Korg & Novation devices. And I play hard and fast, being a drummer for 20+ years and beat producer for 7-8 years. It also seems that other companies are not having a problem with response on new gear with silicon/rubber pads as well in the DJ market.

I'm not trying to be an ass. Just asking what and why. Don't think GC, Sam Ash, etc will have a demo for me to play on. LOL! They always have an Itch setup somewhere, but all SSL stuff is behind glass cases usually :-P
PopRoXxX 5:53 PM - 23 January, 2012
Not saying they are bad. But most of us don't get or have the luxury of going to NAMM. And the peeps that do go, only check out what's good for them.

Point in case:
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but they felt good to me


How do I know if they're good for me, if there's not one description or video about what's "good for me". LOL!!
PopRoXxX 5:54 PM - 23 January, 2012
DannyD - do you prefer silicon/rubber on your drum/beat/cueing devices? Or hard plastic?
PopRoXxX 5:54 PM - 23 January, 2012
Not saying they are bad. But most of us don't get or have the luxury of going to NAMM. And the peeps that do go, only check out what's good for them.

Point in case:
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but they felt good to me


How do I know if they're good for me, if there's not one description or video about what's "good for me". LOL!!
PopRoXxX 5:54 PM - 23 January, 2012
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they are not rubber. Here is the thing, you have to touch them and trigger them to understand. You really do. Anyone who has will tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Did you see Z-trip on the news rocking the cues? L. A. L. A. K.T.L.A. L.A.


Seriously, watch the Z-trip video. Here is a link to the Official Rane Dj page and the first video listed is the one I'm talking about. Check it out - www.facebook.com


Gotcha. But it still didn't show me what I was asking. Reponse? Yes, and great. But the feel? I prob won't get to try a 62 before I want to buy one. So ... are they the same/similar to 68 or different/better??

And can someone explain to me why rubber/silicon is "not as" responsive? Cause I don't understand this statement:

Quote:
The cues have such a small travel that if it was rubber there would be no way for them to react with precise timing like the plastic can. Rubber squishes and with the amount of travel these have you would basically be doing twice the work and we know even a fraction of a second can toss any performer off beat.


I mean, for me, they are pretty responsive on my AKAI, Korg & Novation devices. And I play hard and fast, being a drummer for 20+ years and beat producer for 7-8 years. It also seems that other companies are not having a problem with response on new gear with silicon/rubber pads as well in the DJ market.

I'm not trying to be an ass. Just asking what and why. Don't think GC, Sam Ash, etc will have a demo for me to play on. LOL! They always have an Itch setup somewhere, but all SSL stuff is behind glass cases usually :-P
damehype 6:15 PM - 23 January, 2012
^ Dude, really?
Rane, Support
Chad S. 6:15 PM - 23 January, 2012
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they are not rubber. Here is the thing, you have to touch them and trigger them to understand. You really do. Anyone who has will tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Did you see Z-trip on the news rocking the cues? L. A. L. A. K.T.L.A. L.A.


Seriously, watch the Z-trip video. Here is a link to the Official Rane Dj page and the first video listed is the one I'm talking about. Check it out - www.facebook.com


Gotcha. But it still didn't show me what I was asking. Reponse? Yes, and great. But the feel? I prob won't get to try a 62 before I want to buy one. So ... are they the same/similar to 68 or different/better??

And can someone explain to me why rubber/silicon is "not as" responsive? Cause I don't understand this statement:



Quote:
The cues have such a small travel that if it was rubber there would be no way for them to react with precise timing like the plastic can. Rubber squishes and with the amount of travel these have you would basically be doing twice the work and we know even a fraction of a second can toss any performer off beat.


I mean, for me, they are pretty responsive on my AKAI, Korg & Novation devices. And I play hard and fast, being a drummer for 20+ years and beat producer for 7-8 years. It also seems that other companies are not having a problem with response on new gear with silicon/rubber pads as well in the DJ market.

I'm not trying to be an ass. Just asking what and why. Don't think GC, Sam Ash, etc will have a demo for me to play on. LOL! They always have an Itch setup somewhere, but all SSL stuff is behind glass cases usually :-P


If "feels softer" means you fingers hurt less, the Sixty-Two feels softer.

If a button has to travel 1/16th of an inch to be triggered you have very little travel which is why a plastic cap is most effective. If you used a rubber pad that squished 1/16th of an inch before it reached a solid point and could then be rigid enough to depress the triggering mechanism you have just doubled the amount of travel / time it takes to cue it.
HandsomeRobDJ 6:24 PM - 23 January, 2012
Personally I was able to grasp the concept the first time it was laid down. well put! It seems physics 101 will need to continue for others : /
caliguy 6:25 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Gotcha. But it still didn't show me what I was asking. Reponse? Yes, and great. But the feel? I prob won't get to try a 62 before I want to buy one. So ... are they the same/similar to 68 or different/better??

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I mean, for me, they are pretty responsive on my AKAI, Korg & Novation devices. And I play hard and fast, being a drummer for 20+ years and beat producer for 7-8 years. It also seems that other companies are not having a problem with response on new gear with silicon/rubber pads as well in the DJ market.

LOL. I get you bro. If another company can do it, why cant this company. Rubber or silicone can be just as responsive as you pointed out AKAI pad buttons are great. I think its the type of buttons for the limited space. The smaller the button the smaller the electronic parts, the more susceptible to failure. AKAI uses pads, not buttons. You couldnt get the same performance and reliability hitting the small rubber buttons AKAI uses for functions vs their famed pads.

So in this case Rane is limited to what they can use effectively hence they opted for plastic buttons over rubber...performance vs feel.
PopRoXxX 6:27 PM - 23 January, 2012
Ok. Understanding a little more now from the building perspective. Curious, by any chance do you know the travel distance (estimate) for normal silicon/rubber triggers?
PopRoXxX 6:28 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Gotcha. But it still didn't show me what I was asking. Reponse? Yes, and great. But the feel? I prob won't get to try a 62 before I want to buy one. So ... are they the same/similar to 68 or different/better??

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I mean, for me, they are pretty responsive on my AKAI, Korg & Novation devices. And I play hard and fast, being a drummer for 20+ years and beat producer for 7-8 years. It also seems that other companies are not having a problem with response on new gear with silicon/rubber pads as well in the DJ market.

LOL. I get you bro. If another company can do it, why cant this company. Rubber or silicone can be just as responsive as you pointed out AKAI pad buttons are great. I think its the type of buttons for the limited space. The smaller the button the smaller the electronic parts, the more susceptible to failure. AKAI uses pads, not buttons. You couldnt get the same performance and reliability hitting the small rubber buttons AKAI uses for functions vs their famed pads.

So in this case Rane is limited to what they can use effectively hence they opted for plastic buttons over rubber...performance vs feel.


^^^^ makes way more sense. LOL!! Thanks
PopRoXxX 6:29 PM - 23 January, 2012
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^ Dude, really?


What part are you referring to? .....
caliguy 6:33 PM - 23 January, 2012
One more thing regarding ZTrip and these buttons and the 62 mixer...Im from Los Angeles, so I have to show him much love for the design and for putting it down for K.T.L.A. like that. If I can afford the 62Z im most definitely would want to buy it over the regular 62.

Thanks for representing ZTrip!
PopRoXxX 6:35 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Personally I was able to grasp the concept the first time it was laid down. well put! It seems physics 101 will need to continue for others : /


Yeah, I must be totally STUPID to not understand why I have played on so many instruments and toys over the years with silicon/rubber/plastic/metal - pads, buttons, pedals, footswitches, mixers, tables, etc.

Where there is a will, there is a way dude. I am talking about feel to the "musicians" touch.

And I aced physics & chemistry for the record. Technology tests the laws of physics everyday.

Seems like common sense 101 shall continue for others as well
PopRoXxX 6:35 PM - 23 January, 2012
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One more thing regarding ZTrip and these buttons and the 62 mixer...Im from Los Angeles, so I have to show him much love for the design and for putting it down for K.T.L.A. like that. If I can afford the 62Z im most definitely would want to buy it over the regular 62.

Thanks for representing ZTrip!

+1
PopRoXxX 6:36 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Personally I was able to grasp the concept the first time it was laid down. well put! It seems physics 101 will need to continue for others : /


Yeah, I must be totally STUPID to not understand why I have played on so many instruments and toys over the years with silicon/rubber/plastic/metal - pads, buttons, pedals, footswitches, mixers, tables, etc.

Where there is a will, there is a way dude. I am talking about feel to the "musicians" touch.

And I aced physics & chemistry for the record. Technology tests the laws of physics everyday.

Seems like common sense 101 shall continue for others as well
PopRoXxX 6:36 PM - 23 January, 2012
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^ Dude, really?


What part are you referring to? .....
PopRoXxX 6:36 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Gotcha. But it still didn't show me what I was asking. Reponse? Yes, and great. But the feel? I prob won't get to try a 62 before I want to buy one. So ... are they the same/similar to 68 or different/better??

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I mean, for me, they are pretty responsive on my AKAI, Korg & Novation devices. And I play hard and fast, being a drummer for 20+ years and beat producer for 7-8 years. It also seems that other companies are not having a problem with response on new gear with silicon/rubber pads as well in the DJ market.

LOL. I get you bro. If another company can do it, why cant this company. Rubber or silicone can be just as responsive as you pointed out AKAI pad buttons are great. I think its the type of buttons for the limited space. The smaller the button the smaller the electronic parts, the more susceptible to failure. AKAI uses pads, not buttons. You couldnt get the same performance and reliability hitting the small rubber buttons AKAI uses for functions vs their famed pads.

So in this case Rane is limited to what they can use effectively hence they opted for plastic buttons over rubber...performance vs feel.


^^^^ makes way more sense. LOL!! Thanks
PopRoXxX 6:36 PM - 23 January, 2012
Ok. Understanding a little more now from the building perspective. Curious, by any chance do you know the travel distance (estimate) for normal silicon/rubber triggers?
caliguy 6:40 PM - 23 January, 2012
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I have played on so many instruments and toys over the years with silicon/rubber/plastic/metal - pads, buttons, pedals, footswitches, mixers, tables, etc.

Where there is a will, there is a way dude. I am talking about feel to the "musicians" touch.

And I aced physics & chemistry for the record. Technology tests the laws of physics everyday.

Seems like common sense 101 shall continue for others as well

Hey bro right now this thread is a disturbed beehive. Everyone is on high alert. I love that people love Rane as much as we do. Sometimes I find myself having to be careful to really expalin what I mean cus everyone is reading. You know how texts can be misinterpreted, LOL. Ever happen to you?
PopRoXxX 6:42 PM - 23 January, 2012
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I have played on so many instruments and toys over the years with silicon/rubber/plastic/metal - pads, buttons, pedals, footswitches, mixers, tables, etc.

Where there is a will, there is a way dude. I am talking about feel to the "musicians" touch.

And I aced physics & chemistry for the record. Technology tests the laws of physics everyday.

Seems like common sense 101 shall continue for others as well

Hey bro right now this thread is a disturbed beehive. Everyone is on high alert. I love that people love Rane as much as we do. Sometimes I find myself having to be careful to really expalin what I mean cus everyone is reading. You know how texts can be misinterpreted, LOL. Ever happen to you?


+1!

Yup. And I've been on this forum for at least 5 years and seen it all. I've never lashed out just cause ...... but this time, someone had a smart ass comment for no reason. So smart ass back. LOL!
caliguy 6:45 PM - 23 January, 2012
Hahaha
caliguy 6:45 PM - 23 January, 2012
These things happen bro.
PopRoXxX 6:47 PM - 23 January, 2012
Tell me about it. Used to happen WAY more in the Video-SL threads. It was like constant bickering about 1-2 years back. Hahahahaha! I would grab my coffee and laugh for a couple hours
caliguy 6:49 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Tell me about it. Used to happen WAY more in the Video-SL threads. It was like constant bickering about 1-2 years back. Hahahahaha! I would grab my coffee and laugh for a couple hours

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA thats what I was doing right now. Sitting back sipping my coffee.
PopRoXxX 6:51 PM - 23 January, 2012
Then we are on the same page. Lol! This is my morning paper ;)
DJBlisk 6:56 PM - 23 January, 2012
When are they getting shipped to stores?
DJ Remy USA 7:04 PM - 23 January, 2012
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I would like to know (and I read "most" of this thread already):

Are the cue/loop buttons hard plastic (like the 68) or silicon (like the dicers)?

(*fingers crossed*)


the cue are plastic but there buttons have a depressions for you fingers so the button presses feel natural to your fingers and little effort is needed to press the buttons and they're responsive too
PopRoXxX 7:07 PM - 23 January, 2012
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I would like to know (and I read "most" of this thread already):

Are the cue/loop buttons hard plastic (like the 68) or silicon (like the dicers)?

(*fingers crossed*)


the cue are plastic but there buttons have a depressions for you fingers so the button presses feel natural to your fingers and little effort is needed to press the buttons and they're responsive too


Cool cool! Well as stated above, as long as their softer than the 68, I think I'll be good with that (personal preference). Thanks for the help and input
caliguy 7:27 PM - 23 January, 2012
I'll be real...I prefer the 62 because of the trigger/ CUE point buttons but I would have rather got the lower priced 61 if it had been made with dual USB ports. I would rather use my own controller instead of the mixers buttons, but this can change once I actully get a chance to play with this mixer.
PopRoXxX 7:35 PM - 23 January, 2012
are you getting one right off the bat?
dj_soo 7:39 PM - 23 January, 2012
hopefully they're similar to the buttons on the VCI-300 - very responsive even though they are hard plastic...
caliguy 7:42 PM - 23 January, 2012
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are you getting one right off the bat?

This time around I really feel like doing that but Im not impulsive like that. I usually wait a bit till all the hype wears down and till most stores are stocked cus i can get a better deal.

But Im still not sure if i want to give up my Empath, SL3, Denon HC1000 combo. Thats hard to beat but I want to get into Video and I'm pretty sure future versions of the Serato Video will be better on one of these newer mixers. Had they come out with a EmpathSL , it wouldve been a no brainer for me....day one on that.
caliguy 7:45 PM - 23 January, 2012
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hopefully they're similar to the buttons on the VCI-300 - very responsive even though they are hard plastic...

Thats what they are saying. Man I'm patient, but I'll admit I cant wait to actually put my hands on one.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 8:28 PM - 23 January, 2012
TTM 57 has plastic cues buttons too :)
PopRoXxX 8:29 PM - 23 January, 2012
I feel the same way. I would love to see how ME works with the new mixer. Plus, I get into fully utilizing the audio fx, cues, sampler, library controls & ME linking on my 57 (2.3.3 especially) with using an extra midi controller for my ME effects in my video sets.

I wonder if you can now map midi functions on the mixer (rather than just SSL native, like the 57)? That would be dope to map all my ME stuff that I have on another controller, onto the 62.
PopRoXxX 8:31 PM - 23 January, 2012
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TTM 57 has plastic cues buttons too :)


Yeah, and they're fine. But I also got my 57 before the dicers and all this new technology came out. Plus, it was the first mixer/soundcard collab for Serato/Rane. And a great one!!! Just hoping for the evolution of the products to adapt similarly. But only you guys that make the products know whats best for the money and materials at hand, to make the equipment work properly.
PopRoXxX 8:33 PM - 23 January, 2012
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Joee 9:03 PM - 23 January, 2012
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PopRoXxX 9:10 PM - 23 January, 2012
^^^ +1!
Nicky Blunt 12:23 AM - 24 January, 2012
eh idk about two but i will deffo be buying a standard 62
caliguy 1:32 AM - 24 January, 2012
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I wonder if you can now map midi functions on the mixer (rather than just SSL native, like the 57)? That would be dope to map all my ME stuff that I have on another controller, onto the 62.

Thats a very good question. I cant believe no one has asked this before you.
djdannyd 1:48 AM - 24 January, 2012
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I wonder if you can now map midi functions on the mixer (rather than just SSL native, like the 57)? That would be dope to map all my ME stuff that I have on another controller, onto the 62

im afraid you will have more things to worry about than mapping ME onto the sixty-two ;)
djdannyd 1:49 AM - 24 January, 2012
dang, quote fail
caliguy 2:11 AM - 24 January, 2012
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im afraid you will have more things to worry about than mapping ME onto the sixty-two ;)

What does this mean?
PopRoXxX 2:36 AM - 24 January, 2012
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im afraid you will have more things to worry about than mapping ME onto the sixty-two ;)

What does this mean?


yeah. wondering to ...
Kepik 3:06 AM - 24 January, 2012
Hopefully its not like the 68, where you had to use the 2nd USB plug to MIDI map outside of SL.

serato.com
ancientyouth 3:54 AM - 24 January, 2012
Yo chad or shaun...... Will a 62 fit in a 57 pelican case with some cutting?
DJWALDO 4:08 AM - 24 January, 2012
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Yo chad or shaun...... Will a 62 fit in a 57 pelican case with some cutting?



x2... was literally going to buy one until the official word... now I am waiting to see if the new mixers will fit right in there.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 4:38 AM - 24 January, 2012
Good question:

I don't know off the top of my head (not at work right now).

Here's the dimension specs:

62 = 14.25" x 10.5" x 4" (36.2 cm x 26.7 cm x 10.2 cm)

57 = 13.3"H x 10"W x 3"D (33.8 x 25.4 x 7.7 cm)

Grab a tap measure and the exacto knife ;)
nik39 7:23 AM - 24 January, 2012
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they are not rubber. Here is the thing, you have to touch them and trigger them to understand. You really do. Anyone who has will tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Did you see Z-trip on the news rocking the cues? L. A. L. A. K.T.L.A. L.A.


Seriously, watch the Z-trip video. Here is a link to the Official Rane Dj page and the first video listed is the one I'm talking about. Check it out - www.facebook.com

... why didn't Z-Trip mention Serato or Scratch Live at all?

I find this a bit weird.
Henry GQ 8:29 AM - 24 January, 2012
haha here we go with the buttons. at least this time im NOT gonna pre-order the mixer(62). im just gonna wait till i see it in person!

but im excited that something was done with the buttons. i cant wait to feel what they are like!
im really excited to see what it will be like to have the buttons above the faders instead off to the side too!

all in all im petty excited for this mixer! the 62 :P

oh.. and i will never be able to understand why someone who wants another djs name on their mixer... no matter how good they are. sorry Z
but i like the colors lol

anyways.. after owning the rane 68 for over a year. im pretty excited about the 62! great job rane! (until i feel the buttons lol)
Djkom 8:30 AM - 24 January, 2012
Is there any function (custom or native) to map the a button/knob from the rane 62 to SSL functin "shuttle" ??
This function is really usefull for me. Currently I use ITCH with numark V7s and I love the needle/strip search function.

But I would like to go back to SSL once the rane 62 will be availble so I wondering how I can have an equivalent function...
If the function is not yet implemented maybe Serato/Rane can map this function to:
- Delete button + Scrool knob ?
- Delete button + Bars/Select knob ?
- Delete button + platter (vinyl or cd) movements ?

And my last wish is to add a custom group to the Cues/Samplers buttons in order to have 10 more functions (to trigger this mode just click on delete button + Cues/Samplers button for example)
WarpNote 12:22 PM - 24 January, 2012
For once I pretty much agree with Henry ;)
Don't think I'll sell my 68, but still might get a 62.
DJ Remy USA 12:24 PM - 24 January, 2012
^^^^ after playing with both I would sell that 68 in a heart beat for a 62 and a 61 the 68 while it was trail blazer they def learned from there mistakes and made the 62 a very solid piece of equipment
WarpNote 12:36 PM - 24 January, 2012
4 channels Remy. A 68mkII with updated buttons and hardware laptop switch,
then Id probably sell the "old" one.
Res-Q 12:57 PM - 24 January, 2012
I'm with you guys, although I will miss my +48 on the mic, was a pretty nice feature on the 68 for those quick recording studio sessions
DJ Pullout 2:50 PM - 24 January, 2012
But wait a minute guys.... If it doesn't have a flux capacitor then who realistically is going to buy this mixer?

I think for the 63 they need to add on not only the flux capacitor....but also the Enterprises
holodeck. I have mapped out the specs for it here: t0.gstatic.com

here: www.lcarscom.net

and here: sharksplode.com

If we had these two features.....it would be the best mixer in the world....until I can think of something else.
Dj Nyce 5:08 PM - 24 January, 2012
so because there are dedicated controls for all ssl functions there isn't a need for groups. can you customize the buttons for whatever you like in SSL? can i recall presets?

i'm talkin the 62. the 61 is useless.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 5:12 PM - 24 January, 2012
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Is there any function (custom or native) to map the a button/knob from the rane 62 to SSL functin "shuttle" ??
This function is really usefull for me. Currently I use ITCH with numark V7s and I love the needle/strip search function.

But I would like to go back to SSL once the rane 62 will be availble so I wondering how I can have an equivalent function...
If the function is not yet implemented maybe Serato/Rane can map this function to:
- Delete button + Scrool knob ?
- Delete button + Bars/Select knob ?
- Delete button + platter (vinyl or cd) movements ?

And my last wish is to add a custom group to the Cues/Samplers buttons in order to have 10 more functions (to trigger this mode just click on delete button + Cues/Samplers button for example)

I like your thinking. Nothing to report but I like the idea.
DJ Dub Cowboy 5:20 PM - 24 January, 2012
^^^+10
DJ Remy USA 6:08 PM - 24 January, 2012
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so because there are dedicated controls for all ssl functions there isn't a need for groups. can you customize the buttons for whatever you like in SSL? can i recall presets?

i'm talkin the 62. the 61 is useless.


This was the one thing I didnt test, the mixer natively controls most functions. As far as having different preset you should be able to save your own preset just like in previous ssl's. Your still going to need another controller if you want to control software fx. The onboad fx sound great
Billy18bm 6:10 PM - 24 January, 2012
they got rid of the transform switches. I used those for instant double :-(
DJ Remy USA 6:12 PM - 24 January, 2012
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they got rid of the transform switches. I used those for instant double :-(


just tap load twice on either deck 1 or 2 and you have your instant doubles on the 62. Thats a old way of thinking and I had my 57 transform switches mapped to do the same but they have that function built in natively
Dj Nyce 6:15 PM - 24 January, 2012
so Remy you played with the 62. do you like it better than the 57?
DJ Remy USA 6:21 PM - 24 January, 2012
DJ Nyce its in the video they posted, yes I like it better than the 57 and I will be buying one prolly this summer tho
caliguy 6:47 PM - 24 January, 2012
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they got rid of the transform switches. I used those for instant double :-(

No they didnt, the joysticks are there.
Billy18bm 6:54 PM - 24 January, 2012
@CALIGUY where?

@DJ Remy. if your going through a premade set. I typically select the next track i want to load after i load my current track. If the next song is highlighted it won't load the previous song as an "instant double" it will load the next track.. Thats another thing, why not have individual load buttons? Every time i push the scroll/load knobs i end up scrolling before i load and getting the wrong song.
PopRoXxX 7:38 PM - 24 January, 2012
Good idea
caliguy 7:41 PM - 24 January, 2012
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@CALIGUY where?

There are two joysticks on the 61 and one uni-joystick on the 62. These are supposed to be transform switches, at least thats whats been said.
Trinicapone 7:47 PM - 24 January, 2012
This question is for Chad or anyone from Rane.... How will the 62 work with the Bridge different from the 57. Meaning sound card wise.. Will the bridge play thru Aux or is it the same setup as the 57?
caliguy 7:51 PM - 24 January, 2012
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@CALIGUY where?

There are two joysticks on the 61 and one uni-joystick on the 62. These are supposed to be transform switches, at least thats whats been said.

Quoted from from RANE 61 data sheet:
"Mute joysticks temporarily cut
the signal in any direction, also
known as “transform” switches."

Date sheet at: rane.com
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:06 PM - 24 January, 2012
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This question is for Chad or anyone from Rane.... How will the 62 work with the Bridge different from the 57. Meaning sound card wise.. Will the bridge play thru Aux or is it the same setup as the 57?

Yes, you can route the Bridge through the USB AUX channel, which has its own level control, hi/low pass filter, FlexFX routing and headphone cue! :)
Billy18bm 8:12 PM - 24 January, 2012
@caliguy
61 joysticks can't be mapped for instant doubles
62 there is only 1 and it is used for the effects portion of the mixer. i guess i could just map it to a cue button.
caliguy 8:32 PM - 24 January, 2012
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@caliguy
61 joysticks can't be mapped for instant doubles
62 there is only 1 and it is used for the effects portion of the mixer. i guess i could just map it to a cue button.

This is still unknown at this point, right, or is it certain? These new mixers are not MIDI map-able? I know the 57 isnt but I thought they changed that on these mixers.
AKIEM 10:20 PM - 24 January, 2012
double taping load will not work for me. I need a dedicated instant doubles switch on each side. I also use the 57 joystick to load. I hate taping the p1 or p2 to load, it will often twist and load the wrong song, also I dont think they are built to take as many hits as the joystick. I hope the 'load song' switch and the 'crate/song' switch can be reversed, I would much rather load a song with a button then push on that knob everytime.

but back to the missing joystick - at the moment, I think its a mistake. the joystick takes up the space of one or two buttons yet adds 8 functions, maybe there is a reason, but I just see some single buttons where it should be

I think I like the eleven buttons, cues and sp6 triggers the way they are, so where am I (I hated the situation on the 57 and settled for 3cues each side) - so what am I going to use to trigger my instant doubles? one turntable style, thats pretty much the most important button. Looks like I would have to give up one of the cue triggers.

hmmm, maybe with instant double style I would not need to use the cue switches and I could asigne them to instant doubles... thats my hope now

still going to miss that one or two joysticks.
DJ Remy USA 10:22 PM - 24 January, 2012
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@CALIGUY where?

@DJ Remy. if your going through a premade set. I typically select the next track i want to load after i load my current track. If the next song is highlighted it won't load the previous song as an "instant double" it will load the next track.. Thats another thing, why not have individual load buttons? Every time i push the scroll/load knobs i end up scrolling before i load and getting the wrong song.


No on the 62 it always instant doubles the track that is playing not the track that is higlighted. Serato/rane has that covered. Double tap the load button to instant double the deck single tap to load the deck that is highlighted
Rane, Support
Shaun W 10:24 PM - 24 January, 2012
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I hate taping the p1 or p2 to load, it will often twist and load the wrong song,

Mistakenly twisting the knob will not result in a different track loading, when using the double tap option to instant double. You can scroll to whichever song you like, but as soon as you double tap the scroll knob down, the track playing on the opposite deck will instant double for you, regardless :)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 10:24 PM - 24 January, 2012
You beat me to it! :)
AKIEM 10:27 PM - 24 January, 2012
at the moment it still does not feel like a viable option for me...

Are the three cue buttons assignable?
Steve Dub. 10:30 PM - 24 January, 2012
WHEN ARE THESE THINGS SHIPPING!?!?!

Sorry for yelling. Sold my 57 last night for $850.

Pretty good considering I paid $1150 for it over 4 years ago :)
damehype 10:30 PM - 24 January, 2012
On my 68, If Instant Doubles is selected in the setup, all I have to do is tap load once and it will double
D-Twizzle 10:35 PM - 24 January, 2012
^^even if you have another track highlighted?
DJ JT Stevens 10:41 PM - 24 January, 2012
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WHEN ARE THESE THINGS SHIPPING!?!?!

Sorry for yelling. Sold my 57 last night for $850.

Pretty good considering I paid $1150 for it over 4 years ago :)

I actually saw your listing. Would have bid on it if I didn't just buy an Extron 700 and another 1200 a few days earlier.

Hoping that the MAP for the 57's comes down a bit once the 61's and 62's ship. Wouldn't mind picking a new one up if the price drops by a few hundred.
D-Twizzle 10:49 PM - 24 January, 2012
i could be mistaken, but i think the 57's will be discontinued once the 61/62 is shipping.
DJ Remy USA 10:50 PM - 24 January, 2012
@ akiem each deck has it's own scroll load section there is no more of this P1 P2 business. The joysticks were nice but if you only used it to instant double like me you will find the new load scroll and instant feature intuitive and simple. Each deck has it's own cue section load scroll and instance double. Trust me it makes sense

Yes even if another track is highlighted it instant doubles the playing deck not the highlighted song. Single tap loads highlighted song
Steve Dub. 10:55 PM - 24 January, 2012
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i could be mistaken, but i think the 57's will be discontinued once the 61/62 is shipping.


This is why I sold mine ASAP so I could get the most money for it possible. I can just borrow my friends 57 for the time being but would like to know when I can get my hands on a 62.

It's like waiting for x-mas as a kid.
AKIEM 11:01 PM - 24 January, 2012
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@ akiem each deck has it's own scroll load section there is no more of this P1 P2 business. The joysticks were nice but if you only used it to instant double like me you will find the new load scroll and instant feature intuitive and simple. Each deck has it's own cue section load scroll and instance double. Trust me it makes sense

Yes even if another track is highlighted it instant doubles the playing deck not the highlighted song. Single tap loads highlighted song


yep - Im not sold on it.

the way I use instant doubles reaching up and double tapping on the scroll is just not an option.

If Im doing some little dubble up tricks and such, Im hitting that instant double trigger like 10 times and shit.....
DJ JT Stevens 11:09 PM - 24 January, 2012
Not sure how accurate/official this is, but agiprodj has them shown as shipping on February 1st.

www.agiprodj.com
dj vegas 11:10 PM - 24 January, 2012
what date will they hit stores????????? feb 1st or more like the 30th? Does anyone have link to get one pssl.com has no link to them yet? thanks
dj vegas 11:11 PM - 24 January, 2012
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Not sure how accurate/official this is, but agiprodj has them shown as shipping on February 1st.

www.agiprodj.com

thanks
dj vegas 11:18 PM - 24 January, 2012
should i get the z trip version? i hate the lakers and was not blown away with him when i heard him ? q-bert all day craze all day hell dj a.m! I wish it was just like the empath gold with a little name at the bottom. with that all i love resale value so witch one would you get?
D-Twizzle 11:18 PM - 24 January, 2012
we still need ssl 2.4 to finish private beta. then when it's public beta, i'd guess another month at least for the final release. usually more from past experience.
dj vegas 11:19 PM - 24 January, 2012
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Not sure how accurate/official this is, but agiprodj has them shown as shipping on February 1st.

www.agiprodj.com


p.s you are Psychic
thebuttonfreak 11:21 PM - 24 January, 2012
I use my SL3 as a production soundcard. I know others do to,

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dj vegas 11:24 PM - 24 January, 2012
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we still need ssl 2.4 to finish private beta. then when it's public beta, i'd guess another month at least for the final release. usually more from past experience.


2.3 was the only version i was not able to upgrade to right off the bat:( So i could care less about rushing it JUST GET IT RIGHT! Like i said this namm crap is bs the pressure to "say" you have a product is to high. Hell it took 8 months before we got our 3 68's WHY PISS PEOPLE OFF just put ish out when its ready to ship. Trust me no one would give a damn if rain said we are close but have nothing to say just yet because we want to have it ready to ship befor we talk about any product!
dj vegas 11:27 PM - 24 January, 2012
It starts at the top thats all im saying!
dj vegas 11:29 PM - 24 January, 2012
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should i get the z trip version? i hate the lakers and was not blown away with him when i heard him ? q-bert all day craze all day hell dj a.m! I wish it was just like the empath gold with a little name at the bottom. with that all said i love resale value so witch one would you get?

fix sorry
lvmez 11:39 PM - 24 January, 2012
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WHEN ARE THESE THINGS SHIPPING!?!?!

Sorry for yelling. Sold my 57 last night for $850.

Pretty good considering I paid $1150 for it over 4 years ago :)


+1. Also got $850.
dj_soo 11:40 PM - 24 January, 2012
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I use my SL3 as a production soundcard. I know others do to,

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These people WILL NOT use a Dj mixer for PROFESSIONAL RECORDING setups they have their own dedicated hardware for their setups - NOT a dj mixer


Yea? I wouldn't. Good in a pinch but if you were anywhere near serious about it, the last thing you'd want is an RCA-based soundcard...
damehype 12:34 AM - 25 January, 2012
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^^even if you have another track highlighted?


Oh yeah, right. Forgot about that. No it doesn't if another track is highlighted
AKIEM 12:45 AM - 25 January, 2012
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^^even if you have another track highlighted?


Oh yeah, right. Forgot about that. No it doesn't if another track is highlighted


:(
Rane, Support
Shaun W 12:49 AM - 25 January, 2012
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^^even if you have another track highlighted?


Oh yeah, right. Forgot about that. No it doesn't if another track is highlighted

The 62 does not have this limitation, as I posted above:

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Mistakenly twisting the knob will not result in a different track loading, when using the double tap option to instant double. You can scroll to whichever song you like, but as soon as you double tap the scroll knob down, the track playing on the opposite deck will instant double for you, regardless :)
AKIEM 12:59 AM - 25 January, 2012
Shaun, so the 62 can receive midi clock. can it also receive midi control from an external/computer source? In other words can I trigger the FlexFX?
DJ Remy USA 2:00 AM - 25 January, 2012
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@ akiem each deck has it's own scroll load section there is no more of this P1 P2 business. The joysticks were nice but if you only used it to instant double like me you will find the new load scroll and instant feature intuitive and simple. Each deck has it's own cue section load scroll and instance double. Trust me it makes sense

Yes even if another track is highlighted it instant doubles the playing deck not the highlighted song. Single tap loads highlighted song


yep - Im not sold on it.

the way I use instant doubles reaching up and double tapping on the scroll is just not an option.

If Im doing some little dubble up tricks and such, Im hitting that instant double trigger like 10 times and shit.....


to each his own then I was just telling that you can still instant double and I understand were you are coming from totally. The double tap wasnt as bad as I thought but I understand you have a workflow that your use to and your not dropping 2,000 just to be getting the new thing just cause its new
AKIEM 2:27 AM - 25 January, 2012
oh, Im still getting one, just not sure what type of adaptations I will have to make to elevate from where I am with the one turntable technique.

just not happy that moving from 57 (yes some DJs did not use the buttons thus 61) to the 62 that they would do something a drastic as remove one (maybe both) joysticks. There are lots of 57 users who spent years getting comfortable and reliant on the two joysticks. not that I think they are going to hurry and tape one on, its just customer feedback

- are 3 cue selection buttons midi asignable?
- can the FlexFX be externally triggered by midi?
- if the midi clock out has the wrong start point can it be adjusted?

guess those are my current questions
dj_soo 2:48 AM - 25 January, 2012
i had instant doubles mapped to the joysticks for a bit but a couple of accidental presses stopped that - I now use an lpd 8 and have 2 pads mapped to instant doubles. To be honest, I would consider getting the 61 if it weren't for the lack of outs and the lack of effects since my workflow these days is pretty much all done on midi controllers other than the echo.

That said, the 62 covers most of controls i need to use midi controllers for so it would be nice to ditch the controllers altogether (or at least only bring dicers)...
skinnyguy 3:09 AM - 25 January, 2012
i'm sold on split cue.

but on the fence concerning some other things now.
AKIEM 4:09 AM - 25 January, 2012
yeah, split cue is def one of the first things I noticed will be a huge plus.
5:50 AM, 25 Jan 2012
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caliguy 5:55 AM - 25 January, 2012
Regarding instant doubles: Im an advocatoe for the Denon HC1000. Its the perfect size if you place it directly in front of your mixer and it does about 95% of serato functions really well and of coarse its MIDI map-able. Its so easy to get used to because it mirrors the Scratch Live layout. I highly recommend it based on experience using it. You cant beat the price either.
AKIEM 7:14 AM - 25 January, 2012
yeah, Ive got plenty of controllers, but nothing like the proximity of the joysticks on the 57.

just need to be able to map those cue buttons, I can use those instead,
WarpNote 7:32 AM - 25 January, 2012
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^^even if you have another track highlighted?


Oh yeah, right. Forgot about that. No it doesn't if another track is highlighted


:(

Yeah I could never get this to work on my 68, guess they changed it for the 62 then.
Would be good to have this option for the 68 as well...
jevo9 7:45 AM - 25 January, 2012
sold my 57 for 1000 it was practically new, i ended up pre ordering the 62Z because i like the colors and the outline, honestly i dont like the Z trip logo but im sure i can get 12inch skins to make me a faceplate for that!
s3kn0tr0n1c 8:33 AM - 25 January, 2012
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double taping load will not work for me. I need a dedicated instant doubles switch on each side. I also use the 57 joystick to load. I hate taping the p1 or p2 to load, it will often twist and load the wrong song, also I dont think they are built to take as many hits as the joystick. I hope the 'load song' switch and the 'crate/song' switch can be reversed, I would much rather load a song with a button then push on that knob everytime.


tap the load track knob for the side you want to load - it ll load track to deck.

tap other deck load knob - itll load to other deck.

and if you have instant doubles clicked in setup it will be playing at same point as first load.


do it all the time on 68...very easy
AKIEM 8:44 AM - 25 January, 2012
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double taping load will not work for me. I need a dedicated instant doubles switch on each side. I also use the 57 joystick to load. I hate taping the p1 or p2 to load, it will often twist and load the wrong song, also I dont think they are built to take as many hits as the joystick. I hope the 'load song' switch and the 'crate/song' switch can be reversed, I would much rather load a song with a button then push on that knob everytime.

tap the load track knob for the side you want to load - it ll load track to deck.

tap other deck load knob - itll load to other deck.

and if you have instant doubles clicked in setup it will be playing at same point as first load.


do it all the time on 68...very easy


lol
WarpNote 9:03 AM - 25 January, 2012
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double taping load will not work for me. I need a dedicated instant doubles switch on each side. I also use the 57 joystick to load. I hate taping the p1 or p2 to load, it will often twist and load the wrong song, also I dont think they are built to take as many hits as the joystick. I hope the 'load song' switch and the 'crate/song' switch can be reversed, I would much rather load a song with a button then push on that knob everytime.
tap the load track knob for the side you want to load - it ll load track to deck.

tap other deck load knob - itll load to other deck.

and if you have instant doubles clicked in setup it will be playing at same point as first load.


do it all the time on 68...very easy


lol


Select any other track and mess up....
12inchskinz 9:07 AM - 25 January, 2012
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sold my 57 for 1000 it was practically new, i ended up pre ordering the 62Z because i like the colors and the outline, honestly i dont like the Z trip logo but im sure i can get 12inch skins to make me a faceplate for that!


LOL....yes. We will have the 61 and 62 skinz soon enough. I keep getting email after email asking about this and its not even available yet. Trip knows a some folks are going to skin it and its cool cause who doesn't want their own version of these mixers? Just to put a spin on it, as long as its skinned, underneath you will always have a brand new looking LIMITED EDITION Rane 62-Z. I personally also dig the colors of the buttons.
aireyc 9:29 AM - 25 January, 2012
YouTube captions reveal some proprietary information on how the mixer's internals work: oi40.tinypic.com
s3kn0tr0n1c 12:19 PM - 25 January, 2012
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double taping load will not work for me. I need a dedicated instant doubles switch on each side. I also use the 57 joystick to load. I hate taping the p1 or p2 to load, it will often twist and load the wrong song, also I dont think they are built to take as many hits as the joystick. I hope the 'load song' switch and the 'crate/song' switch can be reversed, I would much rather load a song with a button then push on that knob everytime.
tap the load track knob for the side you want to load - it ll load track to deck.

tap other deck load knob - itll load to other deck.

and if you have instant doubles clicked in setup it will be playing at same point as first load.


do it all the time on 68...very easy


lol


Select any other track and mess up....

you must be heavy handed on the knobs then... ;)

i do it all the time...

scroll to track >load track to left>load track to right>start instant doubling.
DJ Dub Cowboy 12:36 PM - 25 January, 2012
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YouTube captions reveal some proprietary information on how the mixer's internals work: oi40.tinypic.com


ROFL SeROFLo ScROFL Live
Billy18bm 1:21 PM - 25 January, 2012
@s3kn0tr0n1c

if you have another song selected it won't. It's got nothing to do with knobs.
AKIEM 2:02 PM - 25 January, 2012
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double taping load will not work for me. I need a dedicated instant doubles switch on each side. I also use the 57 joystick to load. I hate taping the p1 or p2 to load, it will often twist and load the wrong song, also I dont think they are built to take as many hits as the joystick. I hope the 'load song' switch and the 'crate/song' switch can be reversed, I would much rather load a song with a button then push on that knob everytime.
tap the load track knob for the side you want to load - it ll load track to deck.

tap other deck load knob - itll load to other deck.

and if you have instant doubles clicked in setup it will be playing at same point as first load.


do it all the time on 68...very easy


lol


Select any other track and mess up....

you must be heavy handed on the knobs then... ;)

i do it all the time...

scroll to track >load track to left>load track to right>start instant doubling.


I might try out 5 or 7 songs before I select it, and sometimes I will hit instant doubles 10 plus times, the P1 and P2 just did not cut it. The joystick much smoother then clicking. They are different, I have a preference. I dont care what works for other people, I know how I prefer. I used the P1 for several years and switched to the J1 because it is better. IMO. If I have to use another controller instead of going back to the P1 I will.
ral 3:11 PM - 25 January, 2012
im using scroll knob (pushed) to do instant double in the 57.
joystick left (or right) to load tracks
no prob
Billy18bm 3:27 PM - 25 January, 2012
never even thought of using the joystick to load....
s3kn0tr0n1c 4:40 PM - 25 January, 2012
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@s3kn0tr0n1c

if you have another song selected it won't. It's got nothing to do with knobs.


fair point....

My trick is not to go looking for other tracks ...lol

I always know what tracks ima double up before i even load them.....
Rane
TrevorW 4:49 PM - 25 January, 2012
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if you have another song selected it won't. It's got nothing to do with knobs.


With the Sixty-Two, it doesn't matter what's highlighted. Two clicks instant double to that deck.
Rane
TrevorW 4:52 PM - 25 January, 2012
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Shaun, so the 62 can receive midi clock. can it also receive midi control from an external/computer source? In other words can I trigger the FlexFX?


62 can follow MIDI beat clock on either port, and it also outputs a MIDI Beat Clock on both ports. The only other MIDI traffic that mixer responds to is the hardware panel parameters. So you could MIDI map filter resonance, but you cannot trigger FlexFX with a separate controller.
Rane
TrevorW 5:04 PM - 25 January, 2012
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- are 3 cue selection buttons midi asignable?
- can the FlexFX be externally triggered by midi?
- if the midi clock out has the wrong start point can it be adjusted?


1) Yes, the Cue selection buttons are MIDI mappable. Keep in mind though that it is not possible to "disconnect" the button from its original function.

2) Covered in post above (No).

3) So this is an interesting one. Some devices/DAWs that use MIDI Beat Clock support the Start/Continue/Stop commands, some don't. As of right now, the mixer sends a MIDI Beat Clock, but not the Start/Continue/Stop commands. This is because the mixer itself doesn't know when a track starts, pauses or ends. It just cranks out the beat ticks according to the BPM it has. We see this could be a problem when outputting a clock to a device/DAW that will not start playback without a Start command, and we're searching for a realistic solution. When following a MIDI Beat Clock, the Start/Continue/Stop commands are meaningless because the mixer cannot control playback. The mixer following a MIDI Beat Clock only affects internal FlexFX and outgoing Beat Clock. Hope that makes sense.
phatbob 6:53 PM - 25 January, 2012
So can you select which deck sends the midi clock?

Otherwise SURELY sync has GOT to be in 2.4... The midi clock is following the 'master' track, right?
Rane
TrevorW 7:06 PM - 25 January, 2012
Serato BPM tracking is seen as a different thing than MIDI beat clock, and is slightly automated for you. The mixer will follow the "last selected" Serato BPM, so if you hit FlexFx button on Program 1, for example, the mixer will follow whatever BPM that is associated with that deck.

For MIDI Beat Clock sources, you explicitly select which USB port to use as the MIDI Beat Clock source, right from the mixer.
phatbob 7:11 PM - 25 January, 2012
Awww, thought I'd stumbled on to a secret for a minute then!
damehype 7:49 PM - 25 January, 2012
Still no Auto BPM detection for external sources?
damehype 7:49 PM - 25 January, 2012
^ for EFX
caliguy 7:56 PM - 25 January, 2012
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yeah, Ive got plenty of controllers, but nothing like the proximity of the joysticks on the 57.

just need to be able to map those cue buttons, I can use those instead,
Youre right, the joysticks are a pretty unique feature, nothing will be exactly like that. But just like anything, once you get familiar with something, it becomes second nature. The HC1000 is super easy to become familiar with, and it has a separate instant double button for deck A and deck B and can only be engaged if you hold down the shift button, so no accidents.
Mighty Dragon Sounds 7:57 PM - 25 January, 2012
We still use those things???

lol. nah man, I know your frustration but thats where a foot peddle comes in handy. "click click click" ready set go!

I've noticed the more we request these complicated machinese to do things, the more they start to have issues.
Rane
TrevorW 8:04 PM - 25 January, 2012
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Still no Auto BPM detection for external sources?


Sorry, no BPM detection of external signals. It still has the real time tracking of Serato BPMs though.
caliguy 8:07 PM - 25 January, 2012
@ TrevorW:
Can the joysticks in the 61 and 62 be mapped to other functions? Maybe we should be asking the Serato guys if they would consider changing some of the functions around.
The Return of Dj Sparky 8:08 PM - 25 January, 2012
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Still no Auto BPM detection for external sources?


Sorry, no BPM detection of external signals. It still has the real time tracking of Serato BPMs though.


so if your playing from a real vinyl it cannot detect the bpm to sync the on board effects with?
Rane
TrevorW 8:09 PM - 25 January, 2012
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Can the joysticks in the 61 and 62 be mapped to other functions? Maybe we should be asking the Serato guys if they would consider changing some of the functions around.


Yes, the transform joysticks can be mapped but they only show as ON or OFF (off being center position).
Rane
TrevorW 8:13 PM - 25 January, 2012
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so if your playing from a real vinyl it cannot detect the bpm to sync the on board effects with?


That is correct, if you are playing a regular old school audio vinyl, the mixer will not automatically detect the BPM. The tap button is very quick and precise though, so you could just tap the beat you hear real quick. We put a lot of work into the accuracy, stability, and responsiveness of the Tap function, so you dont have to tap forever to get a good BPM like Ive seen on other mixers out there.
caliguy 8:13 PM - 25 January, 2012
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Can the joysticks in the 61 and 62 be mapped to other functions? Maybe we should be asking the Serato guys if they would consider changing some of the functions around.


Yes, the transform joysticks can be mapped but they only show as ON or OFF (off being center position).
I see.
The Return of Dj Sparky 8:19 PM - 25 January, 2012
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so if your playing from a real vinyl it cannot detect the bpm to sync the on board effects with?


That is correct, if you are playing a regular old school audio vinyl, the mixer will not automatically detect the BPM. The tap button is very quick and precise though, so you could just tap the beat you hear real quick. We put a lot of work into the accuracy, stability, and responsiveness of the Tap function, so you dont have to tap forever to get a good BPM like Ive seen on other mixers out there.


thats a bit of a joke that it can't auto detect the bpm for the effects, all the pioneers i've used do this, tapping is a option but it should have had a detect bpm feature aswell as the tap
damehype 8:37 PM - 25 January, 2012
Thanks Shawn. I recall an earlier thread where it was stated that maybe a future firmware update would bring auto bpm detection to the 68. Here's to hoping that it eventually comes to both the 68 and 62
damehype 8:37 PM - 25 January, 2012
^ Sorry... Trevor
Rane
TrevorW 9:13 PM - 25 January, 2012
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thats a bit of a joke that it can't auto detect the bpm for the effects, all the pioneers i've used do this, tapping is a option but it should have had a detect bpm feature aswell as the tap


The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.

Real time continuous BPM detection is a very interesting technical problem to solve, and not a trivial one either. We have heard some feedback before asking for this feature, but it is not a popular request as most people that buy a DVS mixer are using it for DVS, in which case accurate BPM tracking is available. The request is on our radar, though.

We would rather do it right than give you a feature that just "kinda works."
DJ Remy USA 9:19 PM - 25 January, 2012
you guys complain way to much can you even DJ good? All this auto auto auto just tap the dang bpm in when your using external sources.....ohh wait your gonna complain that your Pio gear can do it. Then get Pio the 62 is a dope DJ turntablist mixer its not a fukin DAW.....Im sick of all this bitching whinning and complaining from the DJs. Get traktor and auto everything,

Rane from me to you the mixer is awesome it has what a tablist DJ needs sense every other market seems to only care about the new waive DJ with auto everything in it and more buttons and external controllers than you can count. Thank you for caring about the tablist community and if your a tablist and bitch and complain on this forum then you aint not tablist your a wannabe.


Now go auto sync your bpm to that
nik39 9:26 PM - 25 January, 2012
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The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.

I'd rather have this than nothing at all.

If it is right in 50% of all case, that's fine.. that means I don't have to tap 50% of the time!

Personally I feel that the Pioneer BPM detection is better than 50% for the kind of music which I play.
DJ Remy USA 9:27 PM - 25 January, 2012
sorry for the rant but it dang people its like you want the mixer to do everything, pretty soon peeps are gonna get mad cause the mixer doesnt give em a BJ
damehype 9:30 PM - 25 January, 2012
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thats a bit of a joke that it can't auto detect the bpm for the effects, all the pioneers i've used do this, tapping is a option but it should have had a detect bpm feature aswell as the tap


Even though the 909 has auto bpm detect, I always see Jazzy Jeff tapping away... Hell, on my DJM-400 i usually tap it in because it's more accurate
Rebelguy 9:35 PM - 25 January, 2012
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The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.


Take a look at the BPM detection Allen & Heath is using on the Xone DB2 & DB4. They did a great job with it.
L2daGee 9:37 PM - 25 January, 2012
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so if your playing from a real vinyl it cannot detect the bpm to sync the on board effects with?


That is correct, if you are playing a regular old school audio vinyl, the mixer will not automatically detect the BPM. The tap button is very quick and precise though, so you could just tap the beat you hear real quick. We put a lot of work into the accuracy, stability, and responsiveness of the Tap function, so you dont have to tap forever to get a good BPM like Ive seen on other mixers out there.


Or you could simply do what pre-Serato DJs, pre BPM counter did. Learn how to beat match by ear...
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TrevorW 9:41 PM - 25 January, 2012
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Take a look at the BPM detection Allen & Heath is using on the Xone DB2 & DB4. They did a great job with it.


I definitely will, thanks. :) It's a bit of personal interest for me as well.
dj_soo 9:53 PM - 25 January, 2012
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The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.

I'd rather have this than nothing at all.

If it is right in 50% of all case, that's fine.. that means I don't have to tap 50% of the time!

Personally I feel that the Pioneer BPM detection is better than 50% for the kind of music which I play.


How often do you play off vinyl or straight CDs?
skinnyguy 10:01 PM - 25 January, 2012
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50% of the time, it's accurate 100% of the time! =D
skinnyguy 10:01 PM - 25 January, 2012
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sorry for the rant but it dang people its like you want the mixer to do everything, pretty soon peeps are gonna get mad cause the mixer doesnt give em a BJ


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AKIEM 11:25 PM - 25 January, 2012
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- if the midi clock out has the wrong start point can it be adjusted?


1) Yes, the Cue selection buttons are MIDI mappable. Keep in mind though that it is not possible to "disconnect" the button from its original function.


Wait, does that mean they will perform 'both' functions, both the cue function and whatever midi function assigned? That would be pretty awkward, and probably not workable if I understand that correctly. Are the other buttons not able to be disconnected from their original function, loop section, cues, load, etc.? Could that maybe be changed in firmware, the ability to disconnect a button from its original function when midi assigned?

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3) So this is an interesting one. Some devices/DAWs that use MIDI Beat Clock support the Start/Continue/Stop commands, some don't. As of right now, the mixer sends a MIDI Beat Clock, but not the Start/Continue/Stop commands. This is because the mixer itself doesn't know when a track starts, pauses or ends. It just cranks out the beat ticks according to the BPM it has. We see this could be a problem when outputting a clock to a device/DAW that will not start playback without a Start command, and we're searching for a realistic solution. When following a MIDI Beat Clock, the Start/Continue/Stop commands are meaningless because the mixer cannot control playback. The mixer following a MIDI Beat Clock only affects internal FlexFX and outgoing Beat Clock. Hope that makes sense.


Yes that makes sense.

So its really only sending "BPM data" but there is no sync to the song being played... since thats in ssl....

From day one of QTZ suport I have been trying to sync my QTZ compositions to the song. I have been able to do this by cue triggering with an external controller (which I dont do because I like the 57 buttons). But the first thing I would try is using a midi signal from cue1 as a 'start' signal sent to the QTZ. QTZ already read BPM, so this wont change anything. But midi sending cue1 as a start location to my QTZ (thats huge for me still)

Maybe that could also be used as a solution, cue1 = midi start.

Thanks for the response Trevor.
nik39 11:31 PM - 25 January, 2012
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The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.

I'd rather have this than nothing at all.

If it is right in 50% of all case, that's fine.. that means I don't have to tap 50% of the time!

Personally I feel that the Pioneer BPM detection is better than 50% for the kind of music which I play.


How often do you play off vinyl or straight CDs?

That's not the point here.

When I play on the Pioneer 900, then it is using the SL4, which doesn't make any difference to playing off vinyl or cds for the Pioneer. So since that works fine most of the time, it would be nice to give users who play on a 62/68 with non-SL also a good experience.

Makes sense?
DJBIGWIZ 12:20 AM - 26 January, 2012
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The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.

I'd rather have this than nothing at all.

If it is right in 50% of all case, that's fine.. that means I don't have to tap 50% of the time!

Personally I feel that the Pioneer BPM detection is better than 50% for the kind of music which I play.


How often do you play off vinyl or straight CDs?

That's not the point here.

When I play on the Pioneer 900, then it is using the SL4, which doesn't make any difference to playing off vinyl or cds for the Pioneer. So since that works fine most of the time, it would be nice to give users who play on a 62/68 with non-SL also a good experience.

Makes sense?

So nik, if your saying that the Pio900 doesn't automatically read the BPM tag on a SL track so the auto BPM comes in handy... if you are using a 68 or 62, they WILL read the BPM tag in SL and be more accurate and if you ARE playing a "real" record or CD (or track off an iPod etc...) then you have the TAP button which is pretty accurate and only requires 2 taps to get a read. Unless you are playing tracks with a BPM of 60 or slower, it takes less than 2 seconds to tap in the info and it can be fine tuned from there if needed. Anyone using SSL nowadays will probably NOT be spinning that much music outside of their SSL crates so if you (not YOU but anybody) is SO busy during their set that they don't have 2 seconds to tap in the BPM on the very few "real" records they play.... I really want to see their set because as busy as people like Enferno, Z-Trip, Eskei83 and others are, they have 2 seconds to spare with in any given track. Anyone using the 68 or 62 has the features there (BMP wise) to have a good experience.
reggae delgado 12:26 AM - 26 January, 2012
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thats a bit of a joke that it can't auto detect the bpm for the effects, all the pioneers i've used do this, tapping is a option but it should have had a detect bpm feature aswell as the tap


The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.

Real time continuous BPM detection is a very interesting technical problem to solve, and not a trivial one either. We have heard some feedback before asking for this feature, but it is not a popular request as most people that buy a DVS mixer are using it for DVS, in which case accurate BPM tracking is available. The request is on our radar, though.

We would rather do it right than give you a feature that just "kinda works."


That is super true: the auto beat counting on the pioneers, especially the old ones, was completely useless for music of the african diaspora (aka syncopated music) and it took a lot of taps to get the beat right. I appreciate the attitude of "We would rather do it right than give you a feature that just 'kinda works.'"
Eric N 12:27 AM - 26 January, 2012
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How often do you play off vinyl or straight CDs?


I'm actually doing an all-vinyl night this Saturday, some of us still do it from time to time. :) But if I was doing a project where I needed an accurate MIDI clock, I would likely be using Scratch Live.

These mixers are awesome. Most of these concerns seem really nitpicky in the big picture! No offense to anyone - but it just seems to me like they delivered pretty much everything people wanted (save for a 3rd channel Empath style), and people STILL find things to bitch about!
dj_soo 12:33 AM - 26 January, 2012
i guess the only way for the nitpickers to really be satisfied is to get as big as someone like Z-Trip or Grandmaster Flash so that Rane will come asking them to help design the next mixer :)
nik39 12:42 AM - 26 January, 2012
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The quality of the BPM detection on Pioneer mixers is not good enough for us. Most hardware implementations that I have seen for real-time continuous BPM detection have been inaccurate, buggy, or only work for certain genres of music.

I'd rather have this than nothing at all.

If it is right in 50% of all case, that's fine.. that means I don't have to tap 50% of the time!

Personally I feel that the Pioneer BPM detection is better than 50% for the kind of music which I play.


How often do you play off vinyl or straight CDs?

That's not the point here.

When I play on the Pioneer 900, then it is using the SL4, which doesn't make any difference to playing off vinyl or cds for the Pioneer. So since that works fine most of the time, it would be nice to give users who play on a 62/68 with non-SL also a good experience.

Makes sense?

So nik, if your saying that the Pio900 doesn't automatically read the BPM tag on a SL track so the auto BPM comes in handy... if you are using a 68 or 62, they WILL read the BPM tag in SL and be more accurate and if you ARE playing a "real" record or CD (or track off an iPod etc...) then you have the TAP button which is pretty accurate and only requires 2 taps to get a read. Unless you are playing tracks with a BPM of 60 or slower, it takes less than 2 seconds to tap in the info and it can be fine tuned from there if needed. Anyone using SSL nowadays will probably NOT be spinning that much music outside of their SSL crates so if you (not YOU but anybody) is SO busy during their set that they don't have 2 seconds to tap in the BPM on the very few "real" records they play.... I really want to see their set because as busy as people like Enferno, Z-Trip, Eskei83 and others are, they have 2 seconds to spare with in any given track. Anyone using the 68 or 62 has the features there (BMP wise) to have a good experience.

Looks like I failed to make my point clear.

"it would be nice to give users who play on a 62/68 with non-SL also a good experience."

Users who are NOT using Scratch Live, but are playing on a SL mixer.

I have a good user experience when I am using the Pioneer Mixer/Traktor Mixer when NOT using Traktor.

Do you see the point now?

Also it's not about that I could not get around it (even though I am not Z-Trip ;) ), but why should I have to tap it, if the mixer could read it out by itself? I find it comfortable.
Eric N 12:43 AM - 26 January, 2012
What's funny about that is that Grandmaster Flash could play the same set on a VCI300 as he does on decks and Traktor these days. I opened for him a while back and there was NO mixing, juggling, or tricky stuff at ALL going on. I still respect the guy as an innovator and godfather of our craft, but the days of him innovating anything revolutionary seem to be long gone. At least when I saw him, he was totally in "coasting off my prior success and taking the easy route now" mode lol.

And he was an asshole on top of that to everyone that worked at the club.
AKIEM 12:56 AM - 26 January, 2012
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What's funny about that is that Grandmaster Flash could play the same set on a VCI300 as he does on decks and Traktor these days. I opened for him a while back and there was NO mixing, juggling, or tricky stuff at ALL going on. I still respect the guy as an innovator and godfather of our craft, but the days of him innovating anything revolutionary seem to be long gone. At least when I saw him, he was totally in "coasting off my prior success and taking the easy route now" mode lol.

And he was an asshole on top of that to everyone that worked at the club.


did you get a 'do not play fax'? i did ... lol
DJBIGWIZ 12:59 AM - 26 January, 2012
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Looks like I failed to make my point clear.

"it would be nice to give users who play on a 62/68 with non-SL also a good experience."

Users who are NOT using Scratch Live, but are playing on a SL mixer.

I have a good user experience when I am using the Pioneer Mixer/Traktor Mixer when NOT using Traktor.

Do you see the point now?

ok, I got you

BUT =)

I wouldn't quite say having to tap a button 2 times in under 2 seconds is creating a bad experience for a user... especially when I seriously doubt they are applying effects to every single song they play. Plus, if auto BPM is only 50% accurate or only 50% of the time, I'm still gonna have to adjust and tweak it anyway so having something included that doesn't work well and having to manually fix it anyway would be more of a bad experience to me anyway.



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but why should I have to tap it, if the mixer could read it out by itself? I find it comfortable.
because the auto BPM has not been done in a way that is very accurate or relaible accross the board yet and definitely not up to a "Rane" standard (yet)
Eric N 1:00 AM - 26 January, 2012
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did you get a 'do not play fax'? i did ... lol


If it would have been a fax ahead of time, it wouldn't have been as bad. I got to the show, they had 2 sets of decks set up (God forbid anyone touch his before him), and the list was taped to one of my turntables. And pretty much contained every song I was planning on playing lol.

I ended up playing a super fun set though, with stuff like Jurassic 5, Field Mob, Dilated Peoples etc. I also got to close out after he was done. It was an awesome experience overall but he definitely disappointed me with both his performance and attitude.

The club-goers didn't know the difference though and could give a fuck lol. They were all about his "stop the record, yell on the mic, start the next record" steez just because he is who he is.
dj_soo 1:01 AM - 26 January, 2012
back when I was using an EFX-500 on the regular, i still manually tapped out beat effects on everything - same with when I'm stuck using a DJM800 or 900 simply because it was never all that accurate.

Actually, the 57 spoiled me in that respect since the echo utilizes the BPM tag rather than audio detection...
dj_soo 1:03 AM - 26 January, 2012
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did you get a 'do not play fax'? i did ... lol


If it would have been a fax ahead of time, it wouldn't have been as bad. I got to the show, they had 2 sets of decks set up (God forbid anyone touch his before him), and the list was taped to one of my turntables. And pretty much contained every song I was planning on playing lol.

I ended up playing a super fun set though, with stuff like Jurassic 5, Field Mob, Dilated Peoples etc. I also got to close out after he was done. It was an awesome experience overall but he definitely disappointed me with both his performance and attitude.

The club-goers didn't know the difference though and could give a fuck lol. They were all about his "stop the record, yell on the mic, start the next record" steez just because he is who he is.


When I played with Afrika Bambaataa, he got tired about halfway through his set and basically got his roadie to DJ for him while he picked out the tracks on serato.... Didn't really think bad of him since he used to do that for Jazzy Jay way back when too :)

Super nice guy tho and played a lot of modern breaks and underground house which was a bit of a treat.
nik39 1:04 AM - 26 January, 2012
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ok, I got you

BUT =)

I wouldn't quite say having to tap a button 2 times in under 2 seconds is creating a bad experience for a user... especially when I seriously doubt they are applying effects to every single song they play. Plus, if auto BPM is only 50% accurate or only 50% of the time, I'm still gonna have to adjust and tweak it anyway so having something included that doesn't work well and having to manually fix it anyway would be more of a bad experience to me anyway.

If it is correct 50% , that's fine. Still means you don't have to tap all the time.

From my experience, I would say that it is right on spot in 90% of the cases. I can live with tapping in the remaining 10% of the cases. That's a looot better than having to tap all the time.
dj_soo 1:05 AM - 26 January, 2012
but that only applies if you're not using the flagship serato mixer to mix with something other than serato...

If you're not using serato, then why would you want a 62 to begin with?
AKIEM 1:05 AM - 26 January, 2012
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did you get a 'do not play fax'? i did ... lol


If it would have been a fax ahead of time, it wouldn't have been as bad. I got to the show, they had 2 sets of decks set up (God forbid anyone touch his before him), and the list was taped to one of my turntables. And pretty much contained every song I was planning on playing lol.

I ended up playing a super fun set though, with stuff like Jurassic 5, Field Mob, Dilated Peoples etc. I also got to close out after he was done. It was an awesome experience overall but he definitely disappointed me with both his performance and attitude.

The club-goers didn't know the difference though and could give a fuck lol. They were all about his "stop the record, yell on the mic, start the next record" steez just because he is who he is.


yup... lol
WarpNote 1:09 AM - 26 January, 2012
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"it would be nice to give users who play on a 62/68 with non-SL also a good experience."

Users who are NOT using Scratch Live, but are playing on a SL mixer.

I think nik makes a very good argument for this one. Remember, there is a LOT of DJ's used to spin on the DJM mixers. When they first are introduced to my 68, they first have to learn the different way using the FX, then tap the beat. Even if its just a few taps, it makes life less convenient for them.

I mean, Rane should aim for all DJ's to wanna play their mixers, even if that DJ doesn't own a Rane... If said dj is working on keeping 3 or 4 tracks in sync and triggering a few samples at the same time, then yes, tapping the tempo might be inconvenient...
WarpNote 1:11 AM - 26 January, 2012
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but that only applies if you're not using the flagship serato mixer to mix with something other than serato...

If you're not using serato, then why would you want a 62 to begin with?

Same thing for the 68, which believe it or not, does support Traktor running in internal mode, and Ableton...
nik39 1:17 AM - 26 January, 2012
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but that only applies if you're not using the flagship serato mixer to mix with something other than serato...

If you're not using serato, then why would you want a 62 to begin with?

Yikes.
Believe it or not... there are clubs which will have the 62 preinstalled. There are clubs which already have the 68 pre-installed. And believe it or not, there are users who don't use Scratch Live on these mixers, because they are pre installed. I find it very helpful that the Pionner mixers are easy to use, and not hostile towards non-Pioneer/Traktor users. (Not saying that Rane mixers are hostile - don't get me wrong).

If it makes using them easier - why not. In a perfect world I'd like everyone to use a Rane mixer and every club to have a Rane mixer pre-installed! That should be the aim ;))
DJBIGWIZ 1:19 AM - 26 January, 2012
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"it would be nice to give users who play on a 62/68 with non-SL also a good experience."

Users who are NOT using Scratch Live, but are playing on a SL mixer.

I think nik makes a very good argument for this one. Remember, there is a LOT of DJ's used to spin on the DJM mixers. When they first are introduced to my 68, they first have to learn the different way using the FX, then tap the beat. Even if its just a few taps, it makes life less convenient for them.

I mean, Rane should aim for all DJ's to wanna play their mixers, even if that DJ doesn't own a Rane... If said dj is working on keeping 3 or 4 tracks in sync and triggering a few samples at the same time, then yes, tapping the tempo might be inconvenient...

I feel you on that but if Rane doesn't feel like there is a way to implement this to their standards yet, I can respect that to. If all Rane did was try to make every other companies mixers instead of implement their own ideas, they wouldn't be where they are now and neither would a lot of other companies who have benefited from what Rane has done. They seem to learn and grow from every thing they have released and only get better so when they find a way to do it that they feel is up to their standards, I'm pretty sure we may see something like that... it only makes sense. But in the meantime, they gave us a easy way to deal with it.. 2 taps... let's be honest... that's not very hard to do and it's a good compromise between not having to do anything and not having it at all for now.... and with the way the new cue buttons work by activating one turns the other off, that extra step and time you save by pressing one button instead of 2 gives you the time to press the tap button. ;)
phatbob 1:19 AM - 26 January, 2012
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but that only applies if you're not using the flagship serato mixer to mix with something other than serato...

If you're not using serato, then why would you want a 62 to begin with?


If you run a club, and less than 100% of your resident and guest DJs use Serato, why would you ever install a 62 in your club?

So DJs use Pioneer or A&H in the club. So that's what they buy for practice at home.

And I will continue to NEVER see Rane mixers installed in UK clubs.
reggae delgado 1:23 AM - 26 January, 2012
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ok, I got you

BUT =)

I wouldn't quite say having to tap a button 2 times in under 2 seconds is creating a bad experience for a user... especially when I seriously doubt they are applying effects to every single song they play. Plus, if auto BPM is only 50% accurate or only 50% of the time, I'm still gonna have to adjust and tweak it anyway so having something included that doesn't work well and having to manually fix it anyway would be more of a bad experience to me anyway.

If it is correct 50% , that's fine. Still means you don't have to tap all the time.

From my experience, I would say that it is right on spot in 90% of the cases. I can live with tapping in the remaining 10% of the cases. That's a looot better than having to tap all the time.


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I think nik makes a very good argument for this one. Remember, there is a LOT of DJ's used to spin on the DJM mixers. When they first are introduced to my 68, they first have to learn the different way using the FX, then tap the beat. Even if its just a few taps, it makes life less convenient for them.

I mean, Rane should aim for all DJ's to wanna play their mixers, even if that DJ doesn't own a Rane... If said dj is working on keeping 3 or 4 tracks in sync and triggering a few samples at the same time, then yes, tapping the tempo might be inconvenient...


Hmm, I kinda don't. Either way, no big deal but I look at it this way: I play vinyl only sets A LOT on my 68, and use effects a fair amount. That means tapping out the beat every time. It usually takes 2 clicks to get the right bpm, or close enough to the right bpm. Meanwhile, when I played on my pioneer (when I was vinyl only), it got about 10% of my bpms right (I play hip hop & reggae, pios (at least my 600) aren't too good at that. My house playing friends did find that the pioneer was accurate for them... but then again, their BPMs changed over the course of their set... 1%, maybe 3%? while I was going from 80-110. I'd have to tap (repeatedly) to get the effect right on the pioneer anyway, so no big change. If you were satisfied with the pioneer's beat counting, I surmise you must be playing "4 on the floor" music, which in general changes very little in BPM frmo song to song, so a few taps every few songs shouldn't be too bad.

And I will agree that it took a while to get used to the 68's fx from the pio's fx, and myself and others initially struggled with that. However, I now find the rane method easier because each channel has an FX button (as opposed to trying to find the right channel on the dial in the dark!) and the readout is pretty clear.

Yes, auto BPM would be easier, but if it doesn't work, it's not easier. And in my experience, MOST auto bpm detectors struggle with counting syncopated beats. I was actually happy that rane did not have auto BPM on the 68, and after reading the explanation above I am even more happy.
nik39 1:27 AM - 26 January, 2012
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Yikes too!

Wiz... switch sides. Imagine you were a customer. I am just thinking of a way to satisfy us customers!! :)

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Uhm.. Imagine a club has a limited budget, but most of their DJ's use Scratch Live. 68 may be too epensive for them, but the 62 would be affordable. This mixer still works with non SL stuff. So I don't see any reason *not*t to install a 62.


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Very wrong ;)
nik39 1:29 AM - 26 January, 2012
Aaaaanyway... Auto BPM is not so important for me anyway.

Nice to have - yes.

Necessary - no.


I'd rather have a better way to switch between master cue and channel cue. That drives me nuts on the 68 and will drive me mad on the 61/62.
DJBIGWIZ 1:32 AM - 26 January, 2012
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I feel you on that but if Rane doesn't feel like there is a way to implement this to their standards yet, I can respect that to.

Yikes too!

Wiz... switch sides. Imagine you were a customer. I am just thinking of a way to satisfy us customers!! :)


hahaha I AM a customer (no EPMD) =)
WarpNote 1:34 AM - 26 January, 2012
I totally get the up to Rane standard Wiz and I do agree to some point. As nik I'd love to see Rane mixers in my clubs, right now there's only Pio & AH mixers installed. So I normally bring my own 68, unless some other DJ insist on using the club install.

Delgado, I too love the FX implementation on the 68. The button approach is sooo much better than the dial found on most others.
phatbob 1:37 AM - 26 January, 2012
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Uhm.. Imagine a club has a limited budget, but most of their DJ's use Scratch Live. 68 may be too epensive for them, but the 62 would be affordable. This mixer still works with non SL stuff. So I don't see any reason *not*t to install a 62.


Except a DJM-800 or Xone:92 works well with every format equally, costs half the price and doesn't have loads of redundant features when used without SL...
nik39 1:53 AM - 26 January, 2012
Saying that the 62/68 only makes sense in a 100% SL environment is wrong. Period.
DJ Unique 2:08 AM - 26 January, 2012
Damn it!!!
The more I look at the 62 the more I want the 68 with new buttons.
djdannyd 2:22 AM - 26 January, 2012
Then wait for the 68mk2
Mighty Dragon Sounds 4:13 AM - 26 January, 2012
I'm telling you... they can come out with a mixer that will DJ it self and take you back in time.... people will still complain.... we live in a world of complainers....
DJBIGWIZ 4:25 AM - 26 January, 2012
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^^^^THIS!^^^^
djdannyd 4:29 AM - 26 January, 2012
You're complaining about the complainers :p
Mighty Dragon Sounds 4:59 AM - 26 January, 2012
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a PARADOX!!!!!!!!!
dj vegas 6:18 AM - 26 January, 2012
Sold my 68 and just paid for my 62 :))))) CAN"T WAIT <<<< bart scott voice!
wadup 6:23 AM - 26 January, 2012
Seems like the mixer is ready for launch, hopefully the scratch live update doesn't delay the schedule ship date :(
Dj Ace 6:27 AM - 26 January, 2012
Keeping my 68 for home studio DJing hopefully they don't discontinue it and fix the SMALL issues people have in a mk2 version
Dj Ace 6:28 AM - 26 January, 2012
Business is business tho...
Nicky Blunt 4:43 PM - 26 January, 2012
with the amount of money peeps paid for the 68 im expecting service updates to continue for a while!
damehype 5:08 PM - 26 January, 2012
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Sold my 68 to "downgrade" to the 62. But now thinking I should've kept the 68 for this reason and gotten the 61 paired with my Kontrol X1 for gigging.
WarpNote 5:39 PM - 26 January, 2012
The more I think about it, the more I want a 62 lol.
Still don't think I'll sell the 68 though...
dj-freestyle 5:41 PM - 26 January, 2012
For the guys bitching about what is doesnt have. look in the forum for serato set-ups. dj owns has his set up from his bunker in afghanistan. That shoudl really put is all in perspective.
reggae delgado 5:41 PM - 26 January, 2012
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Still don't think I'll sell the 68 though...


+1
reggae delgado 5:42 PM - 26 January, 2012
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For the guys bitching about what is doesnt have. look in the forum for serato set-ups. dj owns has his set up from his bunker in afghanistan. That shoudl really put is all in perspective.


+10000
DJ Unique 6:53 PM - 26 January, 2012
Just made the purchase on the 62 but I'm thinking I should keep my 57SL as a backup.
Dj Nyce 7:06 PM - 26 January, 2012
any word on a ship date? i want to sell my 57, but i want to minimize my downtime without a mixer.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 7:12 PM - 26 January, 2012
Have you not seen the rumors? There is no exact date but there is a general timeframe if you've seen the rumors.
Rane
TrevorW 7:17 PM - 26 January, 2012
Sixty-One, Sixty-Two, and Sixty-Two(Z) will all be shipping in February 2012.
(Fact, not rumor)
DJ Goce 7:22 PM - 26 January, 2012
Being that February this year is 29 days long.... that's big timeframe:)
BERTO 7:24 PM - 26 January, 2012
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Being that February this year is 29 days long.... that's big timeframe:)

That extra day could be the difference of having the new mixer forma weekend gig lol
Rane
TrevorW 7:24 PM - 26 January, 2012
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Being that February this year is 29 days long.... that's big timeframe:)


True, but also keep in mind we're not Santa Claus and can't visit all the houses in one night. ;)
HYDRO MATIC 7:24 PM - 26 January, 2012
Quote:
Have you not seen the rumors? There is no exact date but there is a general timeframe if you've seen the rumors.



Odd coming from our 'source' lol
Steve Dub. 7:28 PM - 26 January, 2012
That's cool but how soon will we get a release date?
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:32 PM - 26 January, 2012
agiprodj expect theirs mid feb from what i've heard, they might even be the first ones to get them in stock with the other dealers getting them mid-late feb and and i got quoted 1800 for a 62 no tax and free us shipping
BERTO 7:39 PM - 26 January, 2012
Rane serato should do free glow in the darks for first person to post their 62 on forum
DJ Goce 7:56 PM - 26 January, 2012
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Quote:
Being that February this year is 29 days long.... that's big timeframe:)


True, but also keep in mind we're not Santa Claus and can't visit all the houses in one night. ;)

Santa Claus has given up visiting Eastern Europe / Balkans a long time ago:)
Rane, Support
Chad S. 8:47 PM - 26 January, 2012
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Rane serato should do free glow in the darks for first person to post their 62 on forum

We all wait for the first tech call and there is a winner for who ever answered it. Nothing more than bragging rights but you know........ I'm not bragging or anything........... but I did take the first Sixty-Eight tech call a few weeks after they shipped. Simple question about connections ...... but yeah....... BOW DOWN. lol.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 8:49 PM - 26 January, 2012
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Quote:
Have you not seen the rumors? There is no exact date but there is a general timeframe if you've seen the rumors.



Odd coming from our 'source' lol


I get confused over what is public knowledge and what is not. A slip would be very bad for me so I error on the side of caution if I have any doubt. You guys are pretty good at guessing things anyways. I've also been using this mixer for months and not a darn person knew..... ya know ;)
DJ Remy USA 8:51 PM - 26 January, 2012
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For the guys bitching about what is doesnt have. look in the forum for serato set-ups. dj owns has his set up from his bunker in afghanistan. That shoudl really put is all in perspective.


agreed, I served 3 tours in Iraq each time I had the xponent (torq) did me well for overseas
nik39 9:06 PM - 26 January, 2012
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I get confused over what is public knowledge and what is not. A slip would be very bad for me so I error on the side of caution if I have any doubt. You guys are pretty good at guessing things anyways. I've also been using this mixer for months and not a darn person knew..... ya know ;)

:D
HYDRO MATIC 10:00 PM - 26 January, 2012
^^^^^
Understood
Joee 10:31 PM - 26 January, 2012
i hope all the bugs are worked out the software the mixer ships with, been on 1.9.2 without issue, fingers crossed that 2.4 is good!!!!!!!
caliguy 4:21 AM - 27 January, 2012
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i hope all the bugs are worked out the software the mixer ships with, been on 1.9.2 without issue, fingers crossed that 2.4 is good!!!!!!!

Yessss!!!!! Especially the correct individual gain meter reading, and also the optimum place on the meter needs to be illustrated and revised in the SL3 manual and other manuals. As of now the manual recommends highest yellow just under red, thats insane on a SL3. Thats ridiculously loud.
j cue 4:42 AM - 27 January, 2012
@rane/serato ppl! how solid are the eq pots on these new models? are they gonna get dislodged as easily as the 57's did?
Henry GQ 5:27 AM - 27 January, 2012
ya.. im gonna wait till maybe march before i order. or hopefully a guitar center around will have them on display.

i figure more people would have the 62 than the 68. if u think about it. i played on the 57 maybe 35 times? before the 68 that i owned a pioneer 800. so anytime i wanted to play out i had to use their 57.. which sucked cuz im not accustomed to the mixer. this is why i wanna downgrade. more people will have the 62. djs or clubs
DJ Prinvale` 5:32 AM - 27 January, 2012
baa I need a release date!!
DJ Unique 7:10 AM - 27 January, 2012
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baa I need a release date!!

I keep hearing mid-February though it all depends on when SSL 2.4 is ready.
Res-Q 5:29 PM - 27 January, 2012
From what I know, early march in France, just in time for the MixMove, gonna be fun like last year!!!
vimeo.com
Rane
TrevorW 5:30 PM - 27 January, 2012
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are they gonna get dislodged as easily as the 57's did?


Only if you're the incredible hulk. jokes.

Theyve got solid knurled nuts (nm) that keep them right where they need to be.
DJ Prinvale` 5:34 PM - 27 January, 2012
lol

NUTS!

THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS

lotofnuts.ytmnd.com
DJ Prinvale` 5:35 PM - 27 January, 2012
sorry, I get distracted easily. What were we talking about again?
J.J. 11:42 PM - 27 January, 2012
Sorry if I missed it.

How do you delete the cues? Do you hold down the Delete button on each side under the Loop controls?
Rane
TrevorW 11:46 PM - 27 January, 2012
Quote:
Sorry if I missed it.

How do you delete the cues? Do you hold down the Delete button on each side under the Loop controls?


Hold down delete button while you press the cue that you want to delete.
Trinicapone 1:09 AM - 28 January, 2012
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From what I know, early march in France, just in time for the MixMove, gonna be fun like last year!!!
vimeo.com

Rude boy! Dat one wicked Elephantman remix! May I ask did you make that on ableton?
Res-Q 1:30 AM - 28 January, 2012
Nuff respect Trinicapone, that one dates back 4 or 5 years ago , I did it on Acid Pro back then. But I did the video edit for it last year
Watchwww.youtube.com
Trinicapone 1:50 AM - 28 January, 2012
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Nuff respect Trinicapone, that one dates back 4 or 5 years ago , I did it on Acid Pro back then. But I did the video edit for it last year
Watchwww.youtube.com

Wow that's a hard riddim I got ableton now and I'm in the progress of learning how to do mash-ups and remixing. I was actually looking to goto school for it like dubspot or scratch academy. I love remixes like that!
dj vegas 9:16 AM - 28 January, 2012
sold my 68 now my club owner is already talking about selling there 2 and downgrading. No one wanted to use the 68's witch is crazy seeing how most dj's only use 3 faders. I can't wait to get mine!!! The dude at guitar center said mid feb and they have all pre orders covered as of now:)
dj vegas 9:18 AM - 28 January, 2012
who is getting the z-trip version? I can't make up my mind if it will hurt the resale value or not? Kinda like cheep rims on a car?
caliguy 6:19 PM - 28 January, 2012
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who is getting the z-trip version? I can't make up my mind if it will hurt the resale value or not? Kinda like cheep rims on a car?

Thats not really a good comparison, but I think the ZTrip logo should of been little less prominent.
citi 7:13 PM - 28 January, 2012
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who is getting the z-trip version? I can't make up my mind if it will hurt the resale value or not? Kinda like cheep rims on a car?


better comparison would be buying a Mercedes, and then custom painting it purple. IMO, it will hurt the resale value.
DJ Remy USA 11:23 PM - 28 January, 2012
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who is getting the z-trip version? I can't make up my mind if it will hurt the resale value or not? Kinda like cheep rims on a car?


better comparison would be buying a Mercedes, and then custom painting it purple. IMO, it will hurt the resale value.


not even close to a good analogy. Your painting the car purple where in this case the mixer already comes in that color. Anything limited edition always sales better than the standard edition even if its a bit ugly
WarpNote 12:28 AM - 29 January, 2012
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Anything limited edition always sales better than the standard edition even if its a bit ugly

Not true, there are lots of examples of the opposite. Throughout history there has been ltd ed that did not sell as well as the regular version, even when priced the same.
Personally I'm a Fan of Shepard Fairey's work, but this one is not one of his strongest IMO.
caliguy 12:45 AM - 29 January, 2012
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Anything limited edition always sales better than the standard edition even if its a bit ugly

Not true, there are lots of examples of the opposite. Throughout history there has been ltd ed that did not sell as well as the regular version, even when priced the same.
Personally I'm a Fan of Shepard Fairey's work, but this one is not one of his strongest IMO.

For the most part the 62Z ZTrip mixer is perfectly sweet looking except that his logo and the lightning was a little too imposing. Had they been a little smaller it would be perfectly ok.
Rebelguy 1:05 AM - 29 January, 2012
Quote:

For the most part the 62Z ZTrip mixer is perfectly sweet looking except that his logo and the lightning was a little too imposing. Had they been a little smaller it would be perfectly ok.


+1
DJRemixEnt 1:21 AM - 29 January, 2012
purple is the new black!
DJ Remy USA 2:02 AM - 29 January, 2012
I think the colors were meant for west coast laker fans
jevo9 2:13 AM - 29 January, 2012
I got the 62z
WarpNote 2:20 AM - 29 January, 2012
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it wont sell, I think it looks kinda nice.
Just not the colors I would expect from Fairey. Then again Ive only seen pictures and video, maybe in real life it looks the business :D
DJBIGWIZ 6:23 AM - 29 January, 2012
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who is getting the z-trip version? I can't make up my mind if it will hurt the resale value or not?

depends on who you sell it to... a collector or big Z-Trip fan... No.
skinnyguy 10:37 AM - 29 January, 2012
i wonder how well a pauly d version would sell...
DJBIGWIZ 10:47 AM - 29 January, 2012
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i wonder how well a pauly d version would sell...

not sure how well it'd sell but if you threw it hard enough it's probably sail pretty far.
=)
slimmjimm 12:19 PM - 29 January, 2012
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i wonder how well a pauly d version would sell...


$20 to whoever skins their mixer with fists pumping instead of lightning bolts.
DJRemixEnt 4:04 PM - 29 January, 2012
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i wonder how well a pauly d version would sell...


the first mixer with a blowout
DJ Unique 4:16 PM - 29 January, 2012
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i wonder how well a pauly d version would sell...

This would be super expensive cause it would be bundled with a fist-pumping monkey and a year's supply of hair spray.
the_black_one 5:21 PM - 29 January, 2012
The fact you fucks even brought that up!

***pimp slaps a HOE****
DJBIGWIZ 9:53 PM - 29 January, 2012
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The fact you fucks even brought that up!

***pimp slaps a HOE****

hahahaha
skinnyguy 11:17 PM - 29 January, 2012
i should buy a plain 62 (or even a 56), find a way to get pauly d to sign it, and sell it on ebay.
caliguy 4:12 AM - 30 January, 2012
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I got the 62z

You mean you pre-ordered it, right? Its not out yet.
jevo9 6:09 AM - 30 January, 2012
Yea I meant that
WarpNote 1:05 PM - 30 January, 2012
This is a long thread, an maybe its already been answered, anyway, here goes.
Quick question to the Rane & Serato guys:

If I run Ableton on a separate laptop on USB B, will it be able to sync to SSL on laptop A using the midicolck send? Instead of midimapping the tap button to Ableton, like I do on the 68?

If so, there's a "Hardware Bridge" right there, big selling point IMO.
DJ Remy USA 4:12 PM - 30 January, 2012
Quote:
This is a long thread, an maybe its already been answered, anyway, here goes.
Quick question to the Rane & Serato guys:

If I run Ableton on a separate laptop on USB B, will it be able to sync to SSL on laptop A using the midicolck send? Instead of midimapping the tap button to Ableton, like I do on the 68?

If so, there's a "Hardware Bridge" right there, big selling point IMO.


good question
nik39 5:31 PM - 30 January, 2012
You can already do this!
WarpNote 6:55 PM - 30 January, 2012
Nik, are you saying that i can have laptop B running Ableton (auto)synced to SSL runinng on laptop A on the 68? Excuse my ignorance, please elaborate nik.
nik39 6:59 PM - 30 January, 2012
You don't need a 68. You can do it with two sl interfaces independently. I'll. Send you a video link by pm.
WarpNote 7:06 PM - 30 January, 2012
Kewl, thanks!
Rane
TrevorW 7:07 PM - 30 January, 2012
Quote:
This is a long thread, an maybe its already been answered, anyway, here goes.
Quick question to the Rane & Serato guys:

If I run Ableton on a separate laptop on USB B, will it be able to sync to SSL on laptop A using the midicolck send? Instead of midimapping the tap button to Ableton, like I do on the 68?

If so, there's a "Hardware Bridge" right there, big selling point IMO.


Yes. Only catch is that the MIDI Beat Clock that the Sixty-Two sends doesn't contain Start/Continue/Stop commands, which Ableton requires. But it works if you start playing in Ableton THEN slave it to the Sixty-Two's MIDI clock.
Rane
TrevorW 7:08 PM - 30 January, 2012
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You can already do this!


Sixty-Two is the first product we have released to produce a MIDI Beat Clock. I am not sure what you are referring to, nik.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 7:15 PM - 30 January, 2012
Is the crossfader on the 61 midi mappable?? All I need is the crossfader to be midi the rest is just over kill to me.
Rane
TrevorW 7:16 PM - 30 January, 2012
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Is the crossfader on the 61 midi mappable?? All I need is the crossfader to be midi the rest is just over kill to me.


Yes, everything is MIDI mappable.
damehype 7:20 PM - 30 January, 2012
Are ther user groups to save the midi assignments or do you just factory refresh to clear any custom assignments?
the SOUNDINSURGENT 7:32 PM - 30 January, 2012
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Is the crossfader on the 61 midi mappable?? All I need is the crossfader to be midi the rest is just over kill to me.


Yes, everything is MIDI mappable.


Thanks! Wanna buy an SL3 & Ecler NUO4, lol!!
DJ Prinvale` 7:55 PM - 30 January, 2012
@Serato

Hurry up and get 2.4 done for the 62 so I can get mine before mid feb :)

please
thanks
DJ Prinvale` 7:55 PM - 30 January, 2012
I said please!
Dj Ace 7:56 PM - 30 January, 2012
Wanna see that video or link as nik32...that would be really interesting and open up lots of creative possibilities!
Joee 7:56 PM - 30 January, 2012
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I said please!

+++1,000,000,0000
[O/][iii][O/] 8:03 PM - 30 January, 2012
I just wanted to be post #2,000 in this thread.
djdannyd 8:03 PM - 30 January, 2012
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@Serato

Hurry up and get 2.4 done for the 62 so I can get mine before mid feb :)

please
thanks

do you want them to hurry or do you want them to cook it just right and be released when its ready and stable? (or at least better than 2.2).

Let's also not forget that this release will also be compatible with Serato video getting released in March to everything needs to mesh up nicely.
WarpNote 8:22 PM - 30 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
This is a long thread, an maybe its already been answered, anyway, here goes.
Quick question to the Rane & Serato guys:

If I run Ableton on a separate laptop on USB B, will it be able to sync to SSL on laptop A using the midicolck send? Instead of midimapping the tap button to Ableton, like I do on the 68?

If so, there's a "Hardware Bridge" right there, big selling point IMO.


Yes. Only catch is that the MIDI Beat Clock that the Sixty-Two sends doesn't contain Start/Continue/Stop commands, which Ableton requires. But it works if you start playing in Ableton THEN slave it to the Sixty-Two's MIDI clock.


That's a cool feature, have the option of running Ableton "on top" on the 3rd channel from a separate computer. Makes for some good collaboration options.
nik39 10:34 PM - 30 January, 2012
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You can already do this!


Sixty-Two is the first product we have released to produce a MIDI Beat Clock. I am not sure what you are referring to, nik.

I was referring to running SL on one computer, and syncing Ableton Live on the other computer. No mixers involved. But you need Rane SL hardware of course ;)
nik39 10:35 PM - 30 January, 2012
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Sixty-Two is the first product we have released to produce a MIDI Beat Clock.

Talking off... does the mixer produce this clock only when using SL or also when using analog sources?
nik39 10:35 PM - 30 January, 2012
Talking off=speaking of.
caliguy 10:57 PM - 30 January, 2012
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@Serato

Hurry up and get 2.4 done for the 62 so I can get mine before mid feb :)

please
thanks

I think we are all anxious to see these mixers in action first hand, but,
NOTE TO SERATO please fix this before or at version 2.4:
* Please fix the virtual decks gain meters misreading bug.
* State the correct recommended OPTIMUM gain setting in your literature.
* Fix the HC1000 and Serato DJ-EFX effects select function.
Thank you.
Rane
TrevorW 10:58 PM - 30 January, 2012
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Quote:
Sixty-Two is the first product we have released to produce a MIDI Beat Clock.

Talking off... does the mixer produce this clock only when using SL or also when using analog sources?


The mixer is outputting a MIDI Beat Clock on both USB ports for whatever BPM is currently being used, regardless of that BPM's original source. So I can plug in Serato on Port A, follow that BPM with the mixer, and have any 3rd party DAW following the mixer on Port B.

Or...you can send a clock from Ableton to the mixer on Port A, have the mixer follow it, and that BPM is sent back through Port A automatically as a MIDI Beat Clock and you could select it with another 3rd party app that is running alongside Ableton (because coreaudio/asio share devices).

I bet we can keep going and come up with some crazy scenarios if we wanted to...
"Off the mixer, off Ableton, off the rafters, off the floor, back to the mixer, nothin but net."
Watchwww.youtube.com
nik39 10:59 PM - 30 January, 2012
Let me fix that for you:
Quote:
I think we are all anxious to see these mixers in action first hand, but,
NOTE TO SERATO please fix this before or at version 2.4:

* Fix the mp4 crashes
* Fix the crashes related to mp4
* Fix mp4 problems
caliguy 11:03 PM - 30 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
@Serato

Hurry up and get 2.4 done for the 62 so I can get mine before mid feb :)

please
thanks

I think we are all anxious to see these mixers in action first hand, but,
NOTE TO SERATO please fix this before or at version 2.4:
* Please fix the virtual decks gain meters misreading bug.
* State the correct recommended OPTIMUM gain setting in your literature.
* Fix the HC1000 and Serato DJ-EFX effects select function.
Thank you.

Quote:
Let me fix that for you:
Quote:
I think we are all anxious to see these mixers in action first hand, but,
NOTE TO SERATO please fix this before or at version 2.4:

* Fix the mp4 crashes
* Fix the crashes related to mp4
* Fix mp4 problems

I understand Stability should definitely take precedence over effects functions, but the virtual deck meters misreading have been left unfixed for several versions now. So I just dont want this to carry over to yet another version.
WarpNote 11:14 PM - 30 January, 2012
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Fix mp4 problems

Yeah, have a few problems with the tags myself...
caliguy 4:01 AM - 31 January, 2012
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Quote:
Fix mp4 problems

Yeah, have a few problems with the tags myself...

Wait...I thought the whole tagging thing was fixed in version 2.3.3?
goatee 6:00 AM - 31 January, 2012
Quote:

I think we are all anxious to see these mixers in action first hand, but,
NOTE TO SERATO please fix this before or at version 2.4:
* Please fix the virtual decks gain meters misreading bug.
* State the correct recommended OPTIMUM gain setting in your literature.
Thank you.


+1
xplycyt 8:18 AM - 31 January, 2012
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Are ther user groups to save the midi assignments or do you just factory refresh to clear any custom assignments?


this!! no one seems to answer this...
WarpNote 9:05 AM - 31 January, 2012
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Quote:
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Fix mp4 problems

Yeah, have a few problems with the tags myself...

Wait...I thought the whole tagging thing was fixed in version 2.3.3?

Not sure, what tagging issues were present in earlier versions as I'm quite new to video.
The Issue I have is SSL seems to revert to a previous saved tag for one of my files.
radikarl 9:07 AM - 31 January, 2012
@warpnote
try deleting the corresponding XML file in your meta data folder, or if there is none, re-encode the video
WarpNote 9:19 AM - 31 January, 2012
Thanks, radikarl.
I actually re-encoded yesterday (Abode Media Encoder),
haven't yet brought the file into SSL.
Fingers crossed.
Djkom 10:26 AM - 31 January, 2012
Look what Pioneer is doing with a DJM T1 official video:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yes Pioneer did a video with the DJM T1 running Serato SSL !!!!
I don't know why they did that but I think that NI Traktor will not like it!

Maybe they will announce the 1st Pioneer SSL mixer aka the DJM S1 soon??
DJ Remy USA 12:05 PM - 31 January, 2012
No its just a T1 with a prolly a SL2 interface hooked to it nothing special about that
wadup 1:04 PM - 31 January, 2012
actually it look like a sl1 box...
DJRemixEnt 3:47 PM - 31 January, 2012
Quote:
Look what Pioneer is doing with a DJM T1 official video:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yes Pioneer did a video with the DJM T1 running Serato SSL !!!!
I don't know why they did that but I think that NI Traktor will not like it!

Maybe they will announce the 1st Pioneer SSL mixer aka the DJM S1 soon??


Prob a last min marketing move, cuz they know the DJM T1 is history now that the 62 is out and is the hottest mixer on the market right now.
Djkom 5:07 PM - 31 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Look what Pioneer is doing with a DJM T1 official video:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yes Pioneer did a video with the DJM T1 running Serato SSL !!!!
I don't know why they did that but I think that NI Traktor will not like it!

Maybe they will announce the 1st Pioneer SSL mixer aka the DJM S1 soon??


Prob a last min marketing move, cuz they know the DJM T1 is history now that the 62 is out and is the hottest mixer on the market right now.


I think you're right !!! It's sad because the DJM T1 is well designed ... but traktor not so much...
caliguy 5:28 PM - 31 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Look what Pioneer is doing with a DJM T1 official video:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yes Pioneer did a video with the DJM T1 running Serato SSL !!!!
I don't know why they did that but I think that NI Traktor will not like it!

Maybe they will announce the 1st Pioneer SSL mixer aka the DJM S1 soon??


Prob a last min marketing move, cuz they know the DJM T1 is history now that the 62 is out and is the hottest mixer on the market right now.
The way I see it, the T1 is a very nice mixer, so why not consider it for all its versatility, not just for use with Traktor. I love Rane but compared to the 61 at the T1's new lower price, its actually looking very attractive.
WarpNote 5:36 PM - 31 January, 2012
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@warpnote
try deleting the corresponding XML file in your meta data folder, or if there is none, re-encode the video

Not much luck with the re-encode, there is no xml metadata file for the file in question.
The issue is actually not reverting to older info, but when I enter album info "Alésia" is automatically changed to "Alésia" next time I load the track.
WarpNote 5:40 PM - 31 January, 2012
Its the "é" character that messes this up, using a regular "e" works well.
The bug is for mp4 files only, I encoded the file in Apple Intermediate, not trouble there.
Radikarl, is this a logged bug, or do you recon i should log this one?
Rebelguy 5:48 PM - 31 January, 2012
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Look what Pioneer is doing with a DJM T1 official video:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yes Pioneer did a video with the DJM T1 running Serato SSL !!!!
I don't know why they did that but I think that NI Traktor will not like it!

Maybe they will announce the 1st Pioneer SSL mixer aka the DJM S1 soon??


Prob a last min marketing move, cuz they know the DJM T1 is history now that the 62 is out and is the hottest mixer on the market right now.


I think you're right !!! It's sad because the DJM T1 is well designed ... but traktor not so much...


There is a lot of buzz on the Sixty Two but honestly it's way out of the reach for a lot of DJs.

The DJM-T1 is a good option right now for those that either:

A. Are looking into getting a good quality mixer to use with Traktor.
B. Are looking into getting a good quality mixer to use with Scratchlive and have the interface already.
C. Are looking into getting a good quality mixer with midi funtionality.

The main downside I see is that there are no internal effects and no way to really implement post fader effects.
J.J. 5:48 PM - 31 January, 2012
Does the 62 support Fader Start? Or is there some way to do this in MIDI (add Cue Start at each end of the fader)?

The Rane MP 4 has it and it's wonderful. However, you cannot control the crossfader curve on the MP 4. I've tried to MIDI Map the 68 to Fader Start with no true success. Can you please add it?

Picture of the Rane MP 4 mixer SSL that has Fader Start.
www.poweronplay.com

Video of SkratchWorx in action "Numark NS7 fader start juggling demo"
Watchwww.youtube.com

Check out 1:05 of Gizmo's video. It not only gets interesting, but he pitches down and up the tempo to create a new effect.
Niro 6:28 PM - 31 January, 2012
How many times are you gonna do that in a night? Also you can probably reproduce it with with triggering a 1 bar loop and pitching it up and down.
DJ Prinvale` 6:33 PM - 31 January, 2012
wdfauhweriuaghew;orighaeoirg

I can't wait!
J.J. 7:48 PM - 31 January, 2012
Niro, you could use it for every track you mix. Leaving the other hand free for Volume, EQ, Effects, Pitch Control etc. (I like to scratch or release the TT for mixing. I would use this for fast triggering ala crab scratch style)
DJ Guayo 8:03 PM - 31 January, 2012
Quote:
Its the "é" character that messes this up, using a regular "e" works well.
The bug is for mp4 files only, I encoded the file in Apple Intermediate, not trouble there.
Radikarl, is this a logged bug, or do you recon i should log this one?


Yep sounds like they need to add ASCII extended character support. They may have a reason for leaving it out.. or could have forgotten about it as well.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 2:37 AM - 1 February, 2012
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Quote:
Is the crossfader on the 61 midi mappable?? All I need is the crossfader to be midi the rest is just over kill to me.


Yes, everything is MIDI mappable.


Are you sure the 61 is midi?? Everyone seems to think its not.....What exactly is MIDI on the 61??
Serato, Forum Moderator
Logan D 3:22 AM - 1 February, 2012
Quote:
Are ther user groups to save the midi assignments or do you just factory refresh to clear any custom assignments?

There aren't user groups you just save and load your mappings as MIDI presets in the MIDI tab of the Setup screen.
damehype 6:12 AM - 1 February, 2012
On the 62?
DJ'Que 7:03 AM - 1 February, 2012
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I got the 62z
I called pro sound to pre order mines and its not in there computer. where u pre order yours at. i need to call them and pre mines,.
DJ Unique 7:26 AM - 1 February, 2012
agiprodj
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I got the 62z
I called pro sound to pre order mines and its not in there computer. where u pre order yours at. i need to call them and pre mines,.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 3:05 PM - 1 February, 2012
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Is the crossfader on the 61 midi mappable?? All I need is the crossfader to be midi the rest is just over kill to me.


Yes, everything is MIDI mappable.


Are you sure the 61 is midi?? Everyone seems to think its not.....What exactly is MIDI on the 61??

Yes, it's MIDI capable. Every knob, button, slider and switch is MIDI assignable.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 3:16 PM - 1 February, 2012
Thanks Shaun, that's great news! Placing my order tonight.
Rane
TrevorW 5:19 PM - 1 February, 2012
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Is the crossfader on the 61 midi mappable?? All I need is the crossfader to be midi the rest is just over kill to me.


Yes, everything is MIDI mappable.


Are you sure the 61 is midi?? Everyone seems to think its not.....What exactly is MIDI on the 61??


Haha Im part of the design team, Im sure. ;)
djdannyd 5:23 PM - 1 February, 2012
lol, everyone says it's not & Trevor, team member for the design team, says it is and you still question him????
djpuma_gemini 5:25 PM - 1 February, 2012
Can I just drive to Mukilteo and pick up a 62 from Chad or Shaun.

I got a rane dj sticker on my mac. I SUPPORT THE CAUSE!
Rane
TrevorW 5:27 PM - 1 February, 2012
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#occupytheclub?
DJ Prinvale` 5:39 PM - 1 February, 2012
I'm actually heading to Washington in a few weeks. Can I pick one up also :)
DJ Prinvale` 5:39 PM - 1 February, 2012
#OccupyRane
Joee 5:42 PM - 1 February, 2012
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#occupytheclub?

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#OccupyRane


OccupyMyDoorStep ,with the ups package of two new shiny 62's
Rane
TrevorW 5:42 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I'm actually heading to Washington in a few weeks. Can I pick one up also :)


Stop by and say hi!
the SOUNDINSURGENT 5:47 PM - 1 February, 2012
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Is the crossfader on the 61 midi mappable?? All I need is the crossfader to be midi the rest is just over kill to me.


Yes, everything is MIDI mappable.


Are you sure the 61 is midi?? Everyone seems to think its not.....What exactly is MIDI on the 61??


Haha Im part of the design team, Im sure. ;)


Thanks again for the info, the 62 is great but its way more mixer then I need, lol!!
DJ Prinvale` 5:55 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I'm actually heading to Washington in a few weeks. Can I pick one up also :)


Stop by and say hi!



Can I stand outside of someones cube window with a boombox playing In Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel?

If so, I'm in!
DJ Unique 6:41 PM - 1 February, 2012
I have a question:

Is the 62 midi mappable within SSL.
I want to be able to customize for VSL.

In this discussion Zach said it wasn't.
serato.com
the SOUNDINSURGENT 6:51 PM - 1 February, 2012
www.RANE.com
It says that its fully mappable. The 61 is also.
Rane
TrevorW 6:51 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I have a question:

Is the 62 midi mappable within SSL.

Well, unfortunately the answer is: "kinda."

Yes, the whole mixer is MIDI mappable, but when used with Serato Scratch Live, controls that are dedicated to Scratch Live controls cannot be mapped in SSL. The rest of the mixer controls can be mapped, but not the Serato controls.

Keep in mind that if the mixer is used with other software via our CoreAudio/ASIO drivers, all controls are mappable.

We're working with Serato right now to get better flexibility, stay tuned.
caliguy 7:27 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I have a question:

Is the 62 midi mappable within SSL.

Well, unfortunately the answer is: "kinda."

Yes, the whole mixer is MIDI mappable, but when used with Serato Scratch Live, controls that are dedicated to Scratch Live controls cannot be mapped in SSL. The rest of the mixer controls can be mapped, but not the Serato controls.
This why there is a big confusion and the same question being asked thrice.


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This was great...its about time!

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We're working with Serato right now to get better flexibility, stay tuned.

A good option would be alternate MIDI mappings like what Denon has offered with their DN-HC1000S when Serato introduced DJ-EFX.

* SERATO SHOULD HAVE A HYBRID MODE...a combination of native and custom map-ability control, with a reset back to defaults setting*
caliguy 7:27 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I have a question:

Is the 62 midi mappable within SSL.

Well, unfortunately the answer is: "kinda."

Yes, the whole mixer is MIDI mappable, but when used with Serato Scratch Live, controls that are dedicated to Scratch Live controls cannot be mapped in SSL. The rest of the mixer controls can be mapped, but not the Serato controls.
This why there is a big confusion and the same question being asked thrice.


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Keep in mind that if the mixer is used with other software via our CoreAudio/ASIO drivers, all controls are mappable.

This was great...its about time!

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We're working with Serato right now to get better flexibility, stay tuned.

A good option would be alternate MIDI mappings like what Denon has offered with their DN-HC1000S when Serato introduced DJ-EFX.

* SERATO SHOULD HAVE A HYBRID MODE...a combination of native and custom map-ability control, with a reset back to defaults setting*
caliguy 7:30 PM - 1 February, 2012
My posting got double posted. What the heck.
WarpNote 7:46 PM - 1 February, 2012
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Keep in mind that if the mixer is used with other software via our CoreAudio/ASIO drivers, all controls are mappable.

This was great...its about time!

FYI, Even though there is no MIDI on the 57, You could already do this on the 68.
Steve Dub. 8:39 PM - 1 February, 2012
I've been on the tour an highly recommend it. SWAG!
Rane
TrevorW 8:43 PM - 1 February, 2012
Don't tell them about the Scrouge McDuck vault full of T-Shirts!
Rebelguy 8:52 PM - 1 February, 2012
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Can I just drive to Mukilteo and pick up a 62 from Chad or Shaun.

I got a rane dj sticker on my mac. I SUPPORT THE CAUSE!


While we won't sell or give you a mixer here at the factory (we love our dealers that do this for us all), all are welcome to stop by.

We often assume this goes without say, but I'm gonna say it, officially. Our factory is 23 miles north of Seattle (30 minute drive) and anyone is welcome to stop by and get the nickel tour and meet us Rane folk face to face any time. (Any time the front office is open that is - 8:30 am to 5 pm). We'll show you around the place, you can meet the owners and CEO and designers and everyone who builds all the Rane gear.

We have daily 5 cent discounts on our tour. We'd love to see you. (yes really).

Here's directions: www.rane.com
Address is:
Rane Corporation, 10802 47th Avenue West, Mukilteo, WA, 98275, USA
425 355-6000


Can we do the Magnetic Fader submerged in Coca-Cola test while on the tour?

youtu.be
echa1945mf 9:05 PM - 1 February, 2012
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Look what Pioneer is doing with a DJM T1 official video:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yes Pioneer did a video with the DJM T1 running Serato SSL !!!!
I don't know why they did that but I think that NI Traktor will not like it!

Maybe they will announce the 1st Pioneer SSL mixer aka the DJM S1 soon??



i do hear rumours of a DJM s1 coming out
caliguy 9:47 PM - 1 February, 2012
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Rumors from what source? Is it reliable?
Joee 10:01 PM - 1 February, 2012
give me a 62, i have no need for a djm s1
Djkom 10:05 PM - 1 February, 2012
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We're working with Serato right now to get better flexibility, stay tuned.


That sounds really good !!! Can we start making wish list ?

I've already posted a request on the "shuttle" function which my top1 missing feature:

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Is there any function (custom or native) to map the a button/knob from the rane 62 to SSL functin "shuttle" ??
This function is really usefull for me. Currently I use ITCH with numark V7s and I love the needle/strip search function.

But I would like to go back to SSL once the rane 62 will be availble so I wondering how I can have an equivalent function...
If the function is not yet implemented maybe Serato/Rane can map this function to:
- Delete button + Scrool knob ?
- Delete button + Bars/Select knob ?
- Delete button + platter (vinyl or cd) movements ?

And my last wish is to add a custom group to the Cues/Samplers buttons in order to have 10 more functions (to trigger this mode just click on delete button + Cues/Samplers button for example)

I like your thinking. Nothing to report but I like the idea.
Rane
TrevorW 10:10 PM - 1 February, 2012
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That sounds really good !!! Can we start making wish list ?

Of course! But I was referring to the MIDI mapping, we're hoping to work with Serato to get all the controls opened up for mapping. A wishlist for other stuff is fine, but wide sweeping changes to the Sixty-Two should not be expected. Keep the feedback coming though, we're always looking forward.
deezlee 10:16 PM - 1 February, 2012
can the filter knob be remapped to scroll tracks? (although it's probably not an endless-rotary knob, huh? swappable?). and could the upfader reverse buttons be mapped to load tracks?
Rane
TrevorW 10:19 PM - 1 February, 2012
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can the filter knob be remapped to scroll tracks? (although it's probably not an endless-rotary knob, huh? swappable?). and could the upfader reverse buttons be mapped to load tracks?


yes and yes. BUT... they still do original function as well. You can map function onto a control, but you can't disconnect a mixer control from a mixer function.
deezlee 10:19 PM - 1 February, 2012
on the 61
deezlee 10:22 PM - 1 February, 2012
dangit. thanks for the info!
Rane, Support
Chad S. 10:30 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I've been on the tour an highly recommend it. SWAG!

The tour blew my mind when I got hired. We'd love to meet ya'll :)
nik39 10:35 PM - 1 February, 2012
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can the filter knob be remapped to scroll tracks? (although it's probably not an endless-rotary knob, huh? swappable?). and could the upfader reverse buttons be mapped to load tracks?


yes and yes. BUT... they still do original function as well. You can map function onto a control, but you can't disconnect a mixer control from a mixer function.

I thought you could not remap the controls in SL?
Rane
TrevorW 10:36 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I thought you could not remap the controls in SL?


You currently cannot map SL controls (ie Library, loops, etc). Mixer controls (ie mic, EQs, etc.) can be mapped, but also retain original function.
Steve Dub. 10:43 PM - 1 February, 2012
Mike May have a hell of a tour. Walked us through the whole warehouse. Although this was in December and I didn't see anything close to the 62. Trust me, I was looking for something.

They must have hid it all when we got there.
djdannyd 10:57 PM - 1 February, 2012
^^^ I'm sure tours don't go into their R&D department.
Rane
TrevorW 11:22 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I didn't see anything close to the 62.

That's because the R&D department is in a secret underground lair. i.imgur.com
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:25 PM - 1 February, 2012
As you can see, Trevor is a Dr Pepper fan ;)
Serato, Forum Moderator
Logan D 11:29 PM - 1 February, 2012
Haha.
nik39 11:30 PM - 1 February, 2012
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I thought you could not remap the controls in SL?


You currently cannot map SL controls (ie Library, loops, etc). Mixer controls (ie mic, EQs, etc.) can be mapped, but also retain original function.

That's a weird limitation. I'd expect it to be the opposite.
Rane
TrevorW 11:40 PM - 1 February, 2012
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That's a weird limitation. I'd expect it to be the opposite.

It's up to the software-- every control on the mixer is a MIDI control and mappable. Different software behave in different ways. That being said, we are trying to get the Serato specific controls mappable in Scratch Live.
AKIEM 11:47 PM - 1 February, 2012
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That's a weird limitation. I'd expect it to be the opposite.

It's up to the software-- every control on the mixer is a MIDI control and mappable. Different software behave in different ways. That being said, we are trying to get the Serato specific controls mappable in Scratch Live.


this makes me sad.
I would really want to swop the Load with the crate/song. I hate loading from the knob.

Is there any hope for turning off the mixer functions that are midi asignable? I would love to try turning off the cue buttons on the mixer and assign them a midi function.
DJ Prinvale` 11:51 PM - 1 February, 2012
I think I saw a video explaining why everything wasn't available at the moment. Something about how it would just be too much for us all at once. They are trying to figure an intuitive way to make full controls.
WarpNote 2:31 AM - 2 February, 2012
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I would really want to swop the Load with the crate/song. I hate loading from the knob.

Would sure like to have this swop on the 68 too... ;)
dj_soo 2:41 AM - 2 February, 2012
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I would really want to swop the Load with the crate/song. I hate loading from the knob.

Would sure like to have this swop on the 68 too... ;)


this is my biggest issue with Itch (other than some stability problems).

Serato seems focused on 1 to 1 mapping with little customization...
Dj Ace 3:28 AM - 2 February, 2012
i want the double click for instant doubles (no matter what song is highlighted) for the 68
djcrap 5:23 PM - 2 February, 2012
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i want the double click for instant doubles (no matter what song is highlighted) for the 68


+1000000000000000

this is one of the things why i hate my 68 that you have to have the song highlighted to instant double.
WarpNote 5:55 PM - 2 February, 2012
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I would really want to swop the Load with the crate/song. I hate loading from the knob.

Would sure like to have this swop on the 68 too... ;)


this is my biggest issue with Itch (other than some stability problems).

Serato seems focused on 1 to 1 mapping with little customization...

Yeah, I love how they solved it on the HC1000s, really nice tab function, load and instant double.
caliguy 6:10 PM - 2 February, 2012
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I would really want to swop the Load with the crate/song. I hate loading from the knob.

Would sure like to have this swop on the 68 too... ;)


this is my biggest issue with Itch (other than some stability problems).

Serato seems focused on 1 to 1 mapping with little customization...

Yeah, I love how they solved it on the HC1000s, really nice tab function, load and instant double.

+1 . Love that easy Load and Instant Double function. Denon nailed it with the HC1000s.
Sureshot (PA) 9:50 PM - 2 February, 2012
Do the 62 fit in a standard 10" mixer case? or will the mixer companies have to make a special case since it's 10.5" wide? What have you Rane/Serato guys been using to haul them around to the trade shows?
dj-freestyle 10:12 PM - 2 February, 2012
worse come to worse throw it in a 12 inch case. most have paddign that comes out velcro style.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 10:27 PM - 2 February, 2012
TTM 57SL Unit: Size: 13.3"H x 10"W x 3"D (33.8 x 25.4 x 7.7 cm)

Sixty-Two Unit Size: 14.25" x 10.5" x 4" (36.2 cm x 26.7 cm x 10.2 cm)

It really depends on your case and how much padding/foam can be removed or squished accordingly.
Sureshot (PA) 2:50 AM - 3 February, 2012
Shaun,

what are you guys using to transport your demo units?
do you know if any of the major manufacturers are making a special case?
DJ Pullout 3:16 PM - 3 February, 2012
Hey Shaun.....

Real quick. If money were not an issue.....is there any reason to get a 62 over a 68? I only ask because I have 4 tables and saved up to buy a 68....however if there is a better reason to just go with a 62 instead....I would be interested in knowing.
beezwax 3:56 PM - 3 February, 2012
good question!

from what i've read, i think the main selling point is that there is much more space for the upfaders, and the upfaders are also much better (like the 57) . also plenty of people don't like the cue buttons on the sixty eight and those on the sixty two are supposed to be much better.

is the effects section basically the same on both mixers?
are the filters different? i think i read that they're adjustable on the sixty two....
and what's the real advantage of the MIDI clock thingy? is that going to make a big difference for the bridge?

i'd love to know the official line on what the sixty two has that's extra rather than different.
Rane
TrevorW 5:49 PM - 3 February, 2012
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what are you guys using to transport your demo units?
do you know if any of the major manufacturers are making a special case?



There are cases for Sixty-Twos in the works with major manufacturers. Stay tuned.
Rane
TrevorW 5:55 PM - 3 February, 2012
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Hey Shaun.....

Real quick. If money were not an issue.....is there any reason to get a 62 over a 68? I only ask because I have 4 tables and saved up to buy a 68....however if there is a better reason to just go with a 62 instead....I would be interested in knowing.


Depends on what you want to use it for. If you're going to mix all those decks, you need the Sixty-Eight. Sixty-Two is only a two channel mixer (you get the Aux also, but no EQs, pan, or fader for it).

Besides the difference in channels though, the Sixty-Two has many improvements over the Sixty-Eight:
-Better buttons
-Better screen
-All faders are magnetic
-Easier source selection
-Internal effects are much more customizable
-Integrated SP6 controls
-Smarter MIDI control
-MIDI Beat Clock Send/Receive
-Faster cuing

That's just off the top of my head. So there are a ton of improvements, but if you want to mix all four decks, you need a 4 channel mixer.
Rane
TrevorW 6:20 PM - 3 February, 2012
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The effects section is the same layout, feel, and selection on both mixers, but the effects themselves have been improved. We have also added the ability to customize a lot of the effects. You can adjust:
-The sweeping filter type (High Pass with High sync, Low pass with low sync, etc)
-Flanger type
-Echo type (Hold echo, Classic Echo, Hold echo with a low cut, etc)
-Filter resonance (Slider adjustment, so you can dial it in to what you like)
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are the filters different? i think i read that they're adjustable on the sixty two....

See above. On Sixty-Eight you could adjust resonance to High or Low, now you can pick any resonance value.
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and what's the real advantage of the MIDI clock thingy? is that going to make a big difference for the bridge?

The MIDI clock allows you to follow the BPM of non Serato software, to allow non Serato software to follow the mixer, and to link between computers.

Let's say we are using Scratch Live on USB port A. We have some other DAW on another computer plugged into USB port B. We have audio on both decks coming from Scratch Live, and some other audio coming from port B on the Aux. The mixer follows the Scratch Live BPM (port A) automatically, and sends that out port B to the other DAW. All we have to do is have that DAW follow the MIDI Clock coming from the mixer, and that audio on the Aux (effects, or warped audio, or whatever) is now at same BPM as the mixer's effects and the audio coming from Scratch Live. We could do same thing with effects on USB Insert into the effects engine.

These are just a couple examples, it's really a pretty powerful feature and you can do a lot of cool things with it.

As far as the Bridge goes, MIDI Beat Clock is not a replacement for the Bridge. The MIDI Beat Clock doesn't allow you to control sets, effects, loops, etc inside Ableton from Scratch Live like the Bridge does. This is purely for tempo.

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i'd love to know the official line on what the sixty two has that's extra rather than different.
See above for a rough run down. Also check out the comparison chart: rane.com
If that doesn't help answer your question, let me know.
J.J. 6:23 PM - 3 February, 2012
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Hey Shaun.....

Real quick. If money were not an issue.....is there any reason to get a 62 over a 68? I only ask because I have 4 tables and saved up to buy a 68....however if there is a better reason to just go with a 62 instead....I would be interested in knowing.

I feel like drunk calling you at 3:00am to say "Great DJ Name, I FINALLY Get IT!"

I have a 68 and I'm getting a 62. All I need is a button for the playing deck to go to the first sampler for 3 deck mixing. You still have to do this by dragging the current deck to a sampler (LAME).

*68 Cue button are hard plastic, hard to engage, stop working and have a long distance before it hits the switch. 62 Cue buttons are still hard, but the distance is short and the switch underneath is different and centered.
*The effect on the 62 are better. For instance, they are more customizable like infinite echo.
*The 62 has better and bigger knobs for scrolling, loops and selection. (Some 1st gen 68 knobs had to be replaced)
*The 62 layout is centered for performance DJs and the upfaders are not stuck right next to each other. Plus the upfaders are magnetic.
*The 62 has MIDI Clock Send and Receive for accurate BPM effects in a program like Ableton Live.
*The 62 has a better Effects Display Screen
*Both headphones jacks on the 62 have been optimized for headphones with a short tip. The 68 can lose contact after a few months.
*The 68 doesn't have a AUX channel for SP6. But it does have 4 channels to route it.
*The 68 does not have a cue/sample button to engage the Samples instantly.
*The 68 has 4 other MIDI pages. Shift + Cue 2 goes into a different MIDI page.
*The 68 doesn't have PAN per channel, only one for pre Master out.
*The 68 offers MATRIX. Same output for 2 channels.
*The 68 has FLEX FX MIX on the front of the mixer. It's almost not needed because you will rarely overdrive the master. Echo might?
*The 68 has 2 mics with PAN. One with Phantom Power. Great for studio work.
*The 62 has ducking (OVER)
*The 68 has Beat Divide Multiply. The 62 has a Joystick (which I prefer)
*The 62 has separate Contour Controls for the upfaders
*The 68 has Crossfader A, B and POST. The 62 has REVERSE.
*The 68 has 4 DIGITAL INPUTS which I use. The 62 does not.
*The 62 ground screws will never come off when loosening.
*The 62 USB A/B can be controlled via hardware. On the 68, you have to click with a mouse to give the decks to another laptop.
*The 62 has hardware SP6 assign for USB 1 and USB 2.

I'm sure there is more, this is just off the top of my head. Remember, I did the interpretation of the previous leaked picture.
www.poweronplay.com
caliguy 7:40 PM - 3 February, 2012
Damn it RANE, why the hell didnt you concentrate on making a 61, 62, and 63?

Both these new mixers are cool, but theres a market for an Empath replacement. Why the heck have you made us wait YEARS without an Empath replacement.

I dont want 2 channels plus aux. I dont need 4 channels unless you can squeeze them into a 10 inch format. I want a true 3 channel PLUS auxiliary and dual USB mixer with multiple MIDI layers.
Rane
TrevorW 7:47 PM - 3 February, 2012
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Damn it RANE, why the hell didnt you concentrate on making a 61, 62, and 63?

Both these new mixers are cool, but theres a market for an Empath replacement. Why the heck have you made us wait YEARS without an Empath replacement.

I dont want 2 channels plus aux. I dont need 4 channels unless you can squeeze them into a 10 inch format. I want a true 3 channel PLUS auxiliary and dual USB mixer with multiple MIDI layers.


We hear you.
fcprod1 8:05 PM - 3 February, 2012
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Damn it RANE, why the hell didnt you concentrate on making a 61, 62, and 63?

Both these new mixers are cool, but theres a market for an Empath replacement. Why the heck have you made us wait YEARS without an Empath replacement.

I dont want 2 channels plus aux. I dont need 4 channels unless you can squeeze them into a 10 inch format. I want a true 3 channel PLUS auxiliary and dual USB mixer with multiple MIDI layers.


We hear you.

in other words....its coming,,,
Rane
TrevorW 8:11 PM - 3 February, 2012
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in other words....its coming,,,


I cant say what is or is not coming; we don't discuss future products (planned, potential or hypothetical). What I am saying is that we are listening to all feedback, and the request for an Empath replacement has been noted.
DJ Pullout 9:10 PM - 3 February, 2012
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I feel like drunk calling you at 3:00am to say "Great DJ Name, I FINALLY Get IT!"



haha. Thanks dude.
AKIEM 11:37 PM - 3 February, 2012
Is there any hope for turning off the mixer functions that are midi asignable? I would love to try turning off the cue buttons on the mixer and assign them a midi function.

this would not be a metter of SSL software, it would have to happen in the mixer. could this be done in firmware?
DJ Prinvale` 12:55 AM - 4 February, 2012
Are the Serato & Rane guys gonna work through the weekend so the 62 ships out this Monday???

*crosses fingers*
fcprod1 1:02 AM - 4 February, 2012
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Are the Serato & Rane guys gonna work through the weekend so the 62 ships out this Monday???

*crosses fingers*


+Bazillion!
djdannyd 1:06 AM - 4 February, 2012
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Are the Serato & Rane guys gonna work through the weekend so the 62 ships out this Monday???

*crosses fingers*

by the way it sounds, the sixty one and sixty two are ready to be shipped. Rane is just waiting for Serato to finish with the software update.
DJ Unique 1:18 AM - 4 February, 2012
Yep.
We're just waiting for version 2.4
caliguy 1:45 AM - 4 February, 2012
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Damn it RANE, why the hell didnt you concentrate on making a 61, 62, and 63?

Both these new mixers are cool, but theres a market for an Empath replacement. Why the heck have you made us wait YEARS without an Empath replacement.

I dont want 2 channels plus aux. I dont need 4 channels unless you can squeeze them into a 10 inch format. I want a true 3 channel PLUS auxiliary and dual USB mixer with multiple MIDI layers.


We hear you.

Love you guys man. Hope the execs decide to move forward with this idea.

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Are the Serato & Rane guys gonna work through the weekend so the 62 ships out this Monday???

*crosses fingers*

by the way it sounds, the sixty one and sixty two are ready to be shipped. Rane is just waiting for Serato to finish with the software update.

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We're just waiting for version 2.4

To use all the cool new feautres of these mixers you would need version 2.4 but its not entirely necessary to take advantage of these mixers hardware. All Serato has to do is issue a downloadable XML MIDI map file to load onto Scratch Live specifically to enable full use of the mixer meantime until version 2.4 is available.
soloist19 2:29 AM - 4 February, 2012
Does the 61 or 62 mixer have a "muti-client" driver feature (or future capablilty with future firmware updates) where you can record in other 3rd party programs simultaneously, like the MP25 and MP26 Mixers?
wadup 3:00 AM - 4 February, 2012

To use all the cool new feautres of these mixers you would need version 2.4 but its not entirely necessary to take advantage of these mixers hardware. All Serato has to do is issue a downloadable XML MIDI map file to load onto Scratch Live specifically to enable full use of the mixer meantime until version 2.4 is available.

This is definitely not Serato way of doing things.... on that note i do hope they release a public beta soon :)
caliguy 3:29 AM - 4 February, 2012
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This is definitely not Serato way of doing things.... on that note i do hope they release a public beta soon :)

I know, so would you rather wait for beta or have the mixers start going out for sale?
wadup 5:19 AM - 4 February, 2012
i would love to have the mixer in my hands right now, but the sooner we see a beta then the mixer will start shipping
beezwax 9:41 AM - 4 February, 2012
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The effects section is the same layout, feel, and selection on both mixers, but the effects themselves have been improved. We have also added the ability to customize a lot of the effects.


is there any chance that the sixty eight effects will get improved with a firmware upgrade?

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As far as the Bridge goes, MIDI Beat Clock is not a replacement for the Bridge. The MIDI Beat Clock doesn't allow you to control sets, effects, loops, etc inside Ableton from Scratch Live like the Bridge does. This is purely for tempo.


does it improve the bridge? as in if you are using the bridge AND the MIDI beat clock?
beezwax 9:50 AM - 4 February, 2012
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All I need is a button for the playing deck to go to the first sampler for 3 deck mixing.


that's a fantastic idea.

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*The 68 doesn't have a AUX channel for SP6. But it does have 4 channels to route it.


what do you think is the best way to use the sampler on the sixty eight JJ?
can i just drag the track playing onto a sampler and then have it playing through a spare channel (it seems that way from the manual)? also, seeing as it's you - is there any way to use a DN-SC2000 to control a sampler deck (e.g. pitch bend)?
beezwax 9:58 AM - 4 February, 2012
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*The 68 does not have a cue/sample button to engage the Samples instantly.

what would it take for it to be possible to map this to the cue buttons on the sixty eight? (and use dicers for the cues)
Dj Ace 6:19 PM - 4 February, 2012
It's mappable already...just goto the 2nd midi page on the 68 and then map them to the cue buttons...
slimmjimm 2:58 AM - 6 February, 2012
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Shaun,

what are you guys using to transport your demo units?
do you know if any of the major manufacturers are making a special case?


Just a heads up, I measured my Road Ready (RR10MIX) and max width is 10 3/4", don't know how else everything will line up with the front panel opening, but I'm crossing my fingers.
Rane
TrevorW 6:47 PM - 6 February, 2012
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Does the 61 or 62 mixer have a "muti-client" driver feature (or future capablilty with future firmware updates) where you can record in other 3rd party programs simultaneously, like the MP25 and MP26 Mixers?


Yes, when using the Rane CoreAudio/ASIO driver. This cannot be done, however, when using Scratch Live because Serato uses their own driver which does not share the device.

You could always use SSL on one port and use 3rd party software on another computer plugged into the other USB port.
DJ Prinvale` 6:51 PM - 6 February, 2012
how's 2.4 coming along :D I want my mixer :(
Rane
TrevorW 7:01 PM - 6 February, 2012
Ill go shake the cage to make them work faster.


ha, jokes. soon, my friend, soon.
DJ Prinvale` 7:43 PM - 6 February, 2012
I'll supply the cattle prod!
DJ Tapout 9:11 PM - 6 February, 2012
i pre ordered mine last week, And i hate waiting on it to ship :( They should have had everything ready to go when they displayed it at NAMM..........
Come on Serato lets go..............
Steve Dub. 9:22 PM - 6 February, 2012
NAMM is to showcase future products. End of story.
DJ Unique 9:34 PM - 6 February, 2012
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NAMM is to showcase future products. End of story.

Yes...... but we're impatient.
HaHaHa
nik39 9:36 PM - 6 February, 2012
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NAMM is to showcase future products. End of story.

We should be thankful.

NAMM=

Not
Available until
Mid
May.
Dj.Mojo 9:49 PM - 6 February, 2012
haha brilliant.
DJ Tapout 10:00 PM - 6 February, 2012
lol nice
WarpNote 10:04 PM - 6 February, 2012
Sad to hear that none of the early adaptors of the 61/62 will be able to use the mixtape function in The Bridge... > serato.com
The Return of Dj Sparky 10:05 PM - 6 February, 2012
mid march might be more accurate, lets hope with the extra workload of the new mixers things don't get worse software wise, last thing i want to hear about is more bugs and corrupting of files, efx bugs and the likes
The Return of Dj Sparky 10:09 PM - 6 February, 2012
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Sad to hear that none of the early adaptors of the 61/62 will be able to use the mixtape function in The Bridge... > serato.com


there is a bombshell, gives me no reason now to buy either and i was going to get a 62 around christmas, hopefully they sort this out, funny how they were keeping tight liped about this
Nicky Blunt 10:19 PM - 6 February, 2012
wow really? I mean thats pretty much my biggest motivation to getting one. Why on earth would they do that?
Trinicapone 10:44 PM - 6 February, 2012
Ok look at it like this you can do mix tape but just on reverse. Load it up just like you would in serato but just record your set in ableton as you would a guitar or any other instrument due to mixer being mapped now........ (Uhh people at Rane/Serato correct me if I'm wrong)
djdannyd 10:50 PM - 6 February, 2012
What about the people that went out and bought Ableton Live for $500 just for the mixtape feature?
Nicky Blunt 10:52 PM - 6 February, 2012
what about the people who pre-ordered the new mixer expecting this to work? Glad I'm not one of them.
The Return of Dj Sparky 10:58 PM - 6 February, 2012
i'm not liking the current direction of serato team, now the attitude is rather then fix something it's cut it,

in another thread i complained about the new 62 not auto detecting bpm so you always have to tap unless your using ssl, their response was it wasn't accurate to auto detect so rather then do it half assed they would want to do it properly, bullshit if you ask me it was either a oversight or someone fucked up, there premium mixers so why lack basic features?
Dj Nyce 11:05 PM - 6 February, 2012
i lost faith in the Bridge awhile ago. i wasted my damn money on Ableton Suite.

This news is very disturbing, but since i don't care about the bridge or use the bridge, it's not a big deal to me. the way this is being handled tho, is a very big deal.

People have forked over their hard earned dough for an ableton license, an apc 40, a Rane 61/62/68 and one of the most touted features, mixtape, doesn't work.

still buyin the new 62 though. we'll test it in production.
WarpNote 11:21 PM - 6 February, 2012
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what about the people who pre-ordered the new mixer expecting this to work? Glad I'm not one of them.

This....
Sureshot (PA) 11:22 PM - 6 February, 2012
have you guys considered the fact that Serato and Ableton are two separate companies and perhaps the issues with the Bridge are not solely the fault of Serato. If Ableton isn't willing to lend support needed then can you blame Serato for dropping the feature? Besides, you can still map the mixers in Ableton so you should still theoretically be able to do the same things.
Nicky Blunt 11:25 PM - 6 February, 2012
Im saying that this is a big part of the whole marketing camapign for serato/ableton partnership. & the fact that it was dropped without even a whimper to let us paying customers know is a pretty poor show.

Plus the fact that the new mixer is coming out & they havent even told us that one of the most marketed features of the last model have been removed? C'mon son, you dont see the issues with this?
The Return of Dj Sparky 11:29 PM - 6 February, 2012
from what i understand you could record a mixtape without having ableton open, so lets say my system couldn't handle both open thats a blow then,

if the feature didn't work well to begin with why interduce it at all?
i held out buying a 57 for over 2 years as a upgrade was due, now the upgrade is here and its getting less appealing then its predecessor
Trinicapone 11:35 PM - 6 February, 2012
No BS this pisses me the eff off. Yes I am one of those dudes that did the APC ableton bridge thing and pre-ordered a 62 hoping that this bridge thing was resolved. I hope there is something up their sleeves DUE TO THE FACT ABLETON HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANTHING LATELY. But at the end of the day I make it work for me!
WarpNote 11:40 PM - 6 February, 2012
If anyone were to blame I'd say all 3: Rane, Serato & Ableton alike.
Taking away such an important ferature is borderline foul play IMO. Like selling a new car with a less feature set, without notifying the customer.

Note there's no official statments from either company on official pages.
www.rane.com
serato.com
www.ableton.com

With all due respect, how hard would it be for them to mention this?
Reminds me of the Panasonic / Technics 1200/1210 story.
Sureshot (PA) 11:48 PM - 6 February, 2012
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from what i understand you could record a mixtape without having ableton open, so lets say my system couldn't handle both open thats a blow then,


if your computer can't handle both then you should spend the 2 grand on a new comp.. not a mixer..

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If anyone were to blame I'd say all 3: Rane, Serato & Ableton alike.
Taking away such an important ferature is borderline foul play IMO. Like selling a new car with a less feature set, without notifying the customer.

Note there's no official statments from either company on official pages.
www.rane.com
serato.com
www.ableton.com

With all due respect, how hard would it be for them to mention this?
Reminds me of the Panasonic / Technics 1200/1210 story.


the Rane 62 is a Rane product. Rane has nothing to do with Ableton.. they literally have no relationship. You would expect Serato or Ableton to announce this at some point but perhaps they are waiting for the software update?


With all that said, i'm not telling you guys how to spend your money. I'm going to get the 62 for my own reasons. Feel free to NOT get it for YOUR own reasons. Just throwing out some ideas.


Side note: While we're at it, some of you guys sound like weenies. They don't have to clear their decisions with you. If you don't like it, buy something else. Seriously. If you were reading your own posts and had any dignity, you'd slap yourselves.
Trinicapone 12:00 AM - 7 February, 2012
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from what i understand you could record a mixtape without having ableton open, so lets say my system couldn't handle both open thats a blow then,


if your computer can't handle both then you should spend the 2 grand on a new comp.. not a mixer..

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If anyone were to blame I'd say all 3: Rane, Serato & Ableton alike.
Taking away such an important ferature is borderline foul play IMO. Like selling a new car with a less feature set, without notifying the customer.
Guess what you can goto the Rane website look up Rane 62 and you will see in the "bridge" tab it shows business as usual. So yes Rane is to blame as well. At the end of the day it stops nothing cause mine is on the way and I will keep my 57 as back up.
Note there's no official statments from either company on official pages.
www.rane.com
serato.com
www.ableton.com

With all due respect, how hard would it be for them to mention this?
Reminds me of the Panasonic / Technics 1200/1210 story.


the Rane 62 is a Rane product. Rane has nothing to do with Ableton.. they literally have no relationship. You would expect Serato or Ableton to announce this at some point but perhaps they are waiting for the software update?


With all that said, i'm not telling you guys how to spend your money. I'm going to get the 62 for my own reasons. Feel free to NOT get it for YOUR own reasons. Just throwing out some ideas.


Side note: While we're at it, some of you guys sound like weenies. They don't have to clear their decisions with you. If you don't like it, buy something else. Seriously. If you were reading your own posts and had any dignity, you'd slap yourselves.
WarpNote 12:06 AM - 7 February, 2012
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the Rane 62 is a Rane product. Rane has nothing to do with Ableton.. they literally have no relationship. You would expect Serato or Ableton to announce this at some point but perhaps they are waiting for the software update?

That's a naive way of seeing this IMO. Most people understand what a great sales argument The Bridge is. The fact that Rane has a dedicated page under the 62 descriptions does makes them related. Like it or not. Don't get me wrong, I love Rane hardware, and will probably keep my 68 until like forever. But I can still see that something has been left out in the marketing hype...
nik39 12:13 AM - 7 February, 2012
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from what i understand you could record a mixtape without having ableton open, so lets say my system couldn't handle both open thats a blow then,


if your computer can't handle both then you should spend the 2 grand on a new comp.. not a mixer..

Connecting the same computer to both of the USB ports is *not* recommended with the 68. Rane can confirm this. This causes stability issues.
nik39 12:13 AM - 7 February, 2012
*Rane confirmed this.
WarpNote 12:25 AM - 7 February, 2012
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Connecting the same computer to both of the USB ports is *not* recommended with the 68. Rane can confirm this. This causes stability issues.

Confirmed here > www.rane.com
And verified by most people trying the flexfx VST usb 5 insert on the 68, like myself, mallon, bigwiz etc... Maybe the 62 will be different in this respect, time will tell...
nik39 12:33 AM - 7 February, 2012
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Connecting the same computer to both of the USB ports is *not* recommended with the 68. Rane can confirm this. This causes stability issues.

Confirmed here > www.rane.com
And verified by most people trying the flexfx VST usb 5 insert on the 68, like myself, mallon, bigwiz etc... Maybe the 62 will be different in this respect, time will tell...

Thanks. Damned it.. I spent 20 minutes searching for the reference. I was searching on the Serato webserver :-( Dang.
dj_soo 1:14 AM - 7 February, 2012
the scuttlebutt is that ableton is re-writing the new version from the ground up which is why nothing major has come from them in over 2 years... part of it is better bridge implementation - probably reverse transport is a big one since that was a huge issue with the bridge...

That said, 8 is buggy as all hell and I would expect 9 to be pretty buggy at first if this re-write rumour is true...
Trinicapone 1:18 AM - 7 February, 2012
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the scuttlebutt is that ableton is re-writing the new version from the ground up which is why nothing major has come from them in over 2 years... part of it is better bridge implementation - probably reverse transport is a big one since that was a huge issue with the bridge...

That said, 8 is buggy as all hell and I would expect 9 to be pretty buggy at first if this re-write rumour is true...


My thoughts exactly! This stops nothing. I will still rock with serato ableton Rane
nik39 1:19 AM - 7 February, 2012
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part of it is better bridge implementation - probably reverse transport is a big one since that was a huge issue with the bridge...

Do you have any reference for this statement/rumour?
dj_soo 1:25 AM - 7 February, 2012
here's one article - all speculation mind you but it does make a bit of sense...

www.everythingableton.com
BattleFunk 1:25 AM - 7 February, 2012
I didnt know that it was official about the re-write, that is just a rumour as well?

The last official announcement was that they were fixing all the bugs - and they seem to be doing a good job of that, I've had no issues with Live for ages
dj_soo 1:27 AM - 7 February, 2012
as I don't use Ableton for performance just yet, all I care about is some key features to be implemented to make my production work easier - 2 screen support being able to detach the mixer/session view is big. of course 64-bit support and the ability to use more than 4gigs of ram too...

send/returns on instrument racks would be great as well as would automation curves...
dj_soo 1:29 AM - 7 February, 2012
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I didnt know that it was official about the re-write, that is just a rumour as well?


pure rumour and speculation.

As an ableton user since 5 tho, I was used to seeing an update every year/year and a half... it's getting to be almost 3 years since we've seen a major update so that's sort of what's fuelling the rumours...
nik39 1:30 AM - 7 February, 2012
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here's one article - all speculation mind you but it does make a bit of sense...

www.everythingableton.com

Thanks.

But there is zero reference to The Bridge/Serato/Scratch Live/Itch.
Trinicapone 2:40 AM - 7 February, 2012
But I did notice thru the whole NAMM event NO ONE used the Bridge. Its sad we fell for the oldest trick in the book!
djdannyd 2:49 AM - 7 February, 2012
"Oldest trick in the book?"
Trinicapone 2:57 AM - 7 February, 2012
Yea make everyone buy a product that they know it won't work. Pay top DJ's to say it will work then pull it off the market with no reason refunds nothing.
Remember this youtu.be
djdannyd 3:01 AM - 7 February, 2012
The bridge was free and you're demanding a refund? Did I miss something?
dj vegas 3:08 AM - 7 February, 2012
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Yea make everyone buy a product that they know it won't work. Pay top DJ's to say it will work then pull it off the market with no reason refunds nothing.
Remember this youtu.be


hahahahaha this goes back to the arms race these fools have with 2 OTHER COMPANIES pioneer and traktor . No one cars if you have a new product at namm if you are not ready to sell it that day this bs can happen!!!! I was told after i "bought and paid for""the 68 that they could not even get the mixer to work with serato yet and this was from a rane employ AFTER NAMM!!!! Try making a product and testing it for a year or 2 OOOORRRRRR RECALL YOUR ISH IF YOU DECIDE TO TRASH IT! Take your time this company is running it self into the ground first VSL users where ignored for 2 years now this?!?!? I love serato and wish it the best but they need to stick with what they started with EVERY thing else have failed.
dj vegas 3:09 AM - 7 February, 2012
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The bridge was free and you're demanding a refund? Did I miss something?
hahaha great point what if they spent that time on a product they did charge for VSL!?!?!?
DJ Remy USA 3:11 AM - 7 February, 2012
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mid march might be more accurate, lets hope with the extra workload of the new mixers things don't get worse software wise, last thing i want to hear about is more bugs and corrupting of files, efx bugs and the likes


people are gonna complain regardless
Joee 3:15 AM - 7 February, 2012
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mid march might be more accurate, lets hope with the extra workload of the new mixers things don't get worse software wise, last thing i want to hear about is more bugs and corrupting of files, efx bugs and the likes


people are gonna complain regardless

can any 68 users speak on this? when the 68 finally came out how well was it working with the software? cause if i get one crash it's back to sl3 ttm 56 & 1.9.2
WarpNote 3:15 AM - 7 February, 2012
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The bridge was free and you're demanding a refund? Did I miss something?

I haven't seen any claims for a bridge refund, and yes you missed a major point:

Even though the Bridge is free, it was constructed for main 2 goals:
1. sell more Rane hardware and
2. sell more Ableton licenses.

If you look at it, this is the same model used by Apple computer.
IE create software in order to sell hardware.

Even if the Bridge is free, if not working, it detracts the value of the Rane hardware and Ableton license. I think you would understand why some new 61/62 customers now feel a little discouraged?
djdannyd 3:16 AM - 7 February, 2012
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The bridge was free and you're demanding a refund? Did I miss something?
hahaha great point what if they spent that time on a product they did charge for VSL!?!?!?

They are/did, releasing next month.
djdannyd 3:18 AM - 7 February, 2012
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The bridge was free and you're demanding a refund? Did I miss something?

I haven't seen any claims for a bridge refund, and yes you missed a major point:

Even though the Bridge is free, it was constructed for main 2 goals:
1. sell more Rane hardware and
2. sell more Ableton licenses.

If you look at it, this is the same model used by Apple computer.
IE create software in order to sell hardware.

Even if the Bridge is free, if not working, it detracts the value of the Rane hardware and Ableton license. I think you would understand why some new 61/62 customers now feel a little discouraged?

You are right for certain users. As for myself, I bought ableton because of the bridge. Since then, I've been using Ableton for "other" uses, not just Scratch LIVE and the bridge. I think I got my money's worth by now.
WarpNote 3:27 AM - 7 February, 2012
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You are right for certain users. As for myself, I bought ableton because of the bridge. Since then, I've been using Ableton for "other" uses, not just Scratch LIVE and the bridge. I think I got my money's worth by now.

Yeah, I did the same. Bought to use with my 68, but also for standalone Ableton work. More standalone after time, since learing more of Ableton. Haven't yet updated from Live 8 to Suite 8, but will probably do. I am very pleased with Ableton myself. i was thinking about getting a battle SSL mixer in addition to the 68, but will hold out at least until summer to see what's next...
dj vegas 3:28 AM - 7 February, 2012
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The bridge was free and you're demanding a refund? Did I miss something?
hahaha great point what if they spent that time on a product they did charge for VSL!?!?!?

They are/did, releasing next month.



yes after 2 yeas and till then they had no answers to any questions in the forum about updates 2222222 years +. They hide there head in the sand and ignore you and the product till all there other ideas flop then they say hey we still have these suckers on the hook! Im not bashing them just to do it i just think they run a sinking ship sorry:(
dj vegas 3:29 AM - 7 February, 2012
p.s one of my cue buttons is going out on my 68 at work and it only gets used 7 hrs a week. <<<<same buttons used on the new 62 i think:(((((
dj vegas 3:31 AM - 7 February, 2012
i will post a video so you dont think im bsing!
SiRocket 3:38 AM - 7 February, 2012
the whole mixtape/bridge issues is total bs... mouth's were sealed....

Serato wanted to be a game changer... they came out with the bridge and the mixtape function... now they have done away with it... game changer indeed... #SMFH
SiRocket 3:38 AM - 7 February, 2012
are*
Trinicapone 3:40 AM - 7 February, 2012
My point exactly! I sad it all day it stops nothing. I can still do a "mixtape" on ableton beside all the other features work (wait i hope). As for getting my moneys worth out of ableton YES I got my moneys worth! When my Rane 62 come on thursday YES I will get my moneys worth out of that too.
djdannyd 3:40 AM - 7 February, 2012
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p.s one of my cue buttons is going out on my 68 at work and it only gets used 7 hrs a week. <<<<same buttons used on the new 62 i think:(((((

different buttons, not the same.
dj_soo 3:44 AM - 7 February, 2012
That's one thing that NI has over Serato - is that they are in complete control of every facet of their software...

With a partnership, if one half can't produce, then the other half has to wait until it's ready to implement.

That said, I'm still getting a 62 - the Bridge wasn't even a factor in me making that decision...
DJ Remy USA 3:46 AM - 7 February, 2012
the bridge works fine for me, I dont use it Ive used the mixtape feature which is dope, Ive used to edit tracks. Works good for me
djvtyme85 3:52 AM - 7 February, 2012
mixtape is great for those tiny f up's we all have from time to time. going to be hard to live without. but i did without it for so long i can get used to not having it again...i guess
dj-freestyle 3:53 AM - 7 February, 2012
My guess is it will work with the bridge pretty quick. Just a hunch
dj_soo 3:56 AM - 7 February, 2012
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mixtape is great for those tiny f up's we all have from time to time. going to be hard to live without. but i did without it for so long i can get used to not having it again...i guess


just keep an old version of serato and ableton to use when you want to use it...
Trinicapone 4:01 AM - 7 February, 2012
OK who needs Bridge when this dude does this all the time!
youtu.be
Rebelguy 4:43 AM - 7 February, 2012
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The bridge was free and you're demanding a refund? Did I miss something?
hahaha great point what if they spent that time on a product they did charge for VSL!?!?!?


Serato delivered what it promised with VSL and there are a lot of DJs that use it weekly with no issues. Most peoples complaints are stemming for them wanting it to compete with Mix Emergency. In the long run it probably helps because without ME they would have no real reason to update the program.
Rebelguy 4:46 AM - 7 February, 2012
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That's one thing that NI has over Serato - is that they are in complete control of every facet of their software...

With a partnership, if one half can't produce, then the other half has to wait until it's ready to implement.



Are they in complete control? NI is having problems with their software working with Traktor certified mixers like the Pioneer DJM-900, Denon DN-X1600 and in the past the Xone 4D.
djdannyd 4:47 AM - 7 February, 2012
ME won't work with 2.4...
SiRocket 5:18 AM - 7 February, 2012
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ME won't work with 2.4...
Culprit 5:27 AM - 7 February, 2012
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ME won't work with 2.4...


has this been confirmed?
jevo9 5:31 AM - 7 February, 2012
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ME won't work with 2.4...


has this been confirmed?

if this happens theres going to be a lot of upset djs.... lol
L2daGee 6:27 AM - 7 February, 2012
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ME won't work with 2.4...


Speculation.
nik39 6:32 AM - 7 February, 2012
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ME won't work with 2.4...

Said who?
Henry GQ 7:00 AM - 7 February, 2012
ouch that would suck, glad i didnt sell my VSL!!!
Nicky Blunt 7:46 AM - 7 February, 2012
I really don't see them making ME unworkable with serato. Has this been confirmed by anyone yet?

But saying that, I really didn't see them canning the mixtape feature either. We shall wait n see.

Confirmation from a serato employee would be nice. Also has anyone beta tested the new video yet? I wanna know if it will work on windows?
L2daGee 8:47 AM - 7 February, 2012
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ME won't work with 2.4...

I doubt it. By the way ME 2.0 soon...
www.inklen.com
Nicky Blunt 9:29 AM - 7 February, 2012
is it that the CURRENT VERSION of me wont work? and the new one will? or just a lat out no longer supported?

seems to be a whole lot of stuff that wont work, thats been swept under the carpet with the new mixers & 2.4
HYDRO MATIC 4:41 PM - 7 February, 2012
The teaser video does have the Serato logo with a BLUE tint...I think ME will be fine.
HYDRO MATIC 4:41 PM - 7 February, 2012
ME should just pay VSL or SSL a royalty and be done with it.
BERTO 4:42 PM - 7 February, 2012
Ssl should pay mac osx and windows for working on those os'
BERTO 4:43 PM - 7 February, 2012
Imagine if every plugin developer had to pay royalties?.....
HYDRO MATIC 4:44 PM - 7 February, 2012
Uhm...plugin developers...DO. Atleast to my knowledge.
Rebelguy 5:38 PM - 7 February, 2012
So is Serato paying Apple for allowing it to read itunes playlists?
Musically Minded 5:40 PM - 7 February, 2012
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So is Serato paying Apple for allowing it to read itunes playlists?

thats not a plug-in, its just serato reading a file that is created by itunes
BERTO 5:40 PM - 7 February, 2012
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So is Serato paying Apple for allowing it to read itunes playlists?

This
BERTO 5:41 PM - 7 February, 2012
Either way alot more people like ME vs video sl, i wonder what is to come....
djdannyd 5:43 PM - 7 February, 2012
Itunes is free
BERTO 5:45 PM - 7 February, 2012
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Itunes is free

So if ME was free it would be ok to integrate into SSL? If so then ME could just ask for a donation for free software #loophole
caliguy 5:52 PM - 7 February, 2012
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ME should just pay VSL or SSL a royalty and be done with it.
I own VSL but never used it nor ME, but this is a good suggestion. It makes good business sense. If I were a video software I would like to be known as the premiere software a in the forefront, not as the premier pirate software in the shadows.
BERTO 5:58 PM - 7 February, 2012
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ME should just pay VSL or SSL a royalty and be done with it.
I own VSL but never used it nor ME, but this is a good suggestion. It makes good business sense. If I were a video software I would like to be known as the premiere software a in the forefront, not as the premier pirate software in the shadows.

so then ssl should only work with Serato approved MIDI controllers not whatever we want to use, also you have to use a rane mixer, then serato should stop using rcas for other mixers on their Sl boxes so a serato approved mixer can only be used right right?
The Return of Dj Sparky 5:58 PM - 7 February, 2012
serato are either getting a cut already off every license of ME sold or there is nothing they can do to stop ME from working,

it makes no buisness sense to just allow ME to work out of the kindness of their hearts without any financial gain
caliguy 6:00 PM - 7 February, 2012
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ME should just pay VSL or SSL a royalty and be done with it.
I own VSL but never used it nor ME, but this is a good suggestion. It makes good business sense. If I were a video software I would like to be known as the premiere software a in the forefront, not as the premier pirate software in the shadows.

so then ssl should only work with Serato approved MIDI controllers not whatever we want to use, also you have to use a rane mixer, then serato should stop using rcas for other mixers on their Sl boxes so a serato approved mixer can only be used right right?
No, I get your point. But what Im trying to say is it makes good business sense to work out a business arrangement with Serato.
DJ Prinvale` 6:01 PM - 7 February, 2012
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serato are either getting a cut already off every license of ME sold or there is nothing they can do to stop ME from working,

it makes no buisness sense to just allow ME to work out of the kindness of their hearts without any financial gain


That is by far the dumbest thing I've heard this year.
caliguy 6:01 PM - 7 February, 2012
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it makes no buisness sense to just allow ME to work out of the kindness of their hearts without any financial gain
I agree thats awfully suspicious.
BERTO 6:01 PM - 7 February, 2012
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serato are either getting a cut already off every license of ME sold or there is nothing they can do to stop ME from working,

it makes no buisness sense to just allow ME to work out of the kindness of their hearts without any financial gain

ok i understand its taking away from video sl or serato video licenses but what about the ME users that prefer and already have used ME for however long? They are Serato users and Rane users too, loyal users that prefer a non Serato software to play video on they Rane/Serato mixers that they also paid for....
BERTO 6:03 PM - 7 February, 2012
wheres Eloy to elaborate on the current situation
caliguy 6:04 PM - 7 February, 2012
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serato are either getting a cut already off every license of ME sold or there is nothing they can do to stop ME from working,

it makes no buisness sense to just allow ME to work out of the kindness of their hearts without any financial gain

ok i understand its taking away from video sl or serato video licenses but what about the ME users that prefer and already have used ME for however long? They are Serato users and Rane users too, loyal users that prefer a non Serato software to play video on they Rane/Serato mixers that they also paid for....
I think it would not be a smart move for Serato to alienate the users of ME by totally cutting off ME. They should work with ME not cut them off.
HYDRO MATIC 6:10 PM - 7 February, 2012
MIDI is an open source standard that SERATO has allowed to be accessed by there software using a controller is a choice...piggy backing off there software is a feature that SERATO has the option to all allow or not similar to the option that they have allowed by giving us access to midi in SSL w/o bieng able to touch the platters there.
The Return of Dj Sparky 6:12 PM - 7 February, 2012
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serato are either getting a cut already off every license of ME sold or there is nothing they can do to stop ME from working,

it makes no buisness sense to just allow ME to work out of the kindness of their hearts without any financial gain


That is by far the dumbest thing I've heard this year.


how is it dumb, allowing ME to work with out getting anything in return is like allowing serato work on any sound card
caliguy 6:31 PM - 7 February, 2012
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how is it dumb, allowing ME to work with out getting anything in return is like allowing serato work on any sound card
Agree.
damehype 6:32 PM - 7 February, 2012
Ok... time to close thread. We've gotten so far off topic...
djdannyd 6:35 PM - 7 February, 2012
Any word for when the sixty-two is shipping?
caliguy 6:37 PM - 7 February, 2012
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Ok... time to close thread. We've gotten so far off topic...
I am not a fan of moderators and censoring. Serato only stands to gain from learning about real life opinions? How these mixers will operate with the new video features will affect their use, so this is pertinent.
damehype 6:39 PM - 7 February, 2012
Move it to Video-SL discussion or start a new thread... that's all I was saying
citi 6:42 PM - 7 February, 2012
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Any word for when the sixty-two is shipping?


American Musical has Feb 9th as the ship date. A couple of others have mid Feb. Ztrip looks like it won't ship until March
The Return of Dj Sparky 6:42 PM - 7 February, 2012
if you don't like the discussion then don't partake in it
fcprod1 6:42 PM - 7 February, 2012
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Any word for when the sixty-two is shipping?


My guess is when 2.4 drops then they will ship. They are ready to ship just waiting on the Serato team.
DJ Super Mario 6:47 PM - 7 February, 2012
Serato has a competing software solution to ME. That's the difference... VSL vs. ME
BERTO 6:47 PM - 7 February, 2012
any new features on 2.4 rumored or bug fix release?
wadup 6:47 PM - 7 February, 2012
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Any word for when the sixty-two is shipping?


My guess is when 2.4 drops then they will ship. They are ready to ship just waiting on the Serato team.



actually the mixer should have been ship with a version 2.3.4 , with 2.4 around the corner
caliguy 6:49 PM - 7 February, 2012
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Move it to Video-SL discussion or start a new thread... that's all I was saying
I guess youre right, but I feel that at least due to the pertinence to mixers, it needed to at least be mentioned here.
caliguy 6:50 PM - 7 February, 2012
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any new features on 2.4 rumored or bug fix release?
Thats what I want to know.
caliguy 6:51 PM - 7 February, 2012
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actually the mixer should have been ship with a version 2.3.4 , with 2.4 around the corner
This makes sense.
The Return of Dj Sparky 6:55 PM - 7 February, 2012
surely some one that was at namm popped into the setup to see what version it was, let us know
fcprod1 7:00 PM - 7 February, 2012
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actually the mixer should have been ship with a version 2.3.4 , with 2.4 around the corner
This makes sense.


hmm interesting. ok well bottom line is they are still waiting on serato team to release the next update. (2.3.4 or 2.4)
Steve Dub. 7:05 PM - 7 February, 2012
So is it a known fact that the mixers won't work with the current versions of Serato? That will suck for my friends that guest DJ with me if they all have to upgrade.
caliguy 7:06 PM - 7 February, 2012
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actually the mixer should have been ship with a version 2.3.4 , with 2.4 around the corner
This makes sense.


hmm interesting. ok well bottom line is they are still waiting on serato team to release the next update. (2.3.4 or 2.4)
You think so? You dont think they'll let them drop before then?
I want version 2.4 to include a final fix to the correct gain meters and the DJ-EFX functions of the HC1000S midi map file, when it gets released.
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:09 PM - 7 February, 2012
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So is it a known fact that the mixers won't work with the current versions of Serato? That will suck for my friends that guest DJ with me if they all have to upgrade.


not a known fact but logic would suggest that it will not work on the current version,

as when the sl2/4 released they didnt work on available 2.2.0 they needed 2.2.2
HYDRO MATIC 7:25 PM - 7 February, 2012
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I want version 2.4 to include a final fix to the correct gain meters and the DJ-EFX functions of the HC1000S midi map file, when it gets released.


what issues?
caliguy 7:55 PM - 7 February, 2012
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I want version 2.4 to include a final fix to the correct gain meters and the DJ-EFX functions of the HC1000S midi map file, when it gets released.


what issues?
Some people say that as far back as version 2.0, the meters on the Scratch Live virtual decks have been reading incorrectly. I use an SL3. On the SL3 manual it states that the optimum gain for each track is in the highest yellow but not in the red. If I follow these instructions the tracks will be super load. If I use autogain correctly, not even at 98db does my average volume track reach the highest yellow. So the meters are not reading right.

On the Denon HC1000S the knobs have two functions to control the DJ-EFX in Scratch Live. In version 2.2 you have to keep loading the MIDI map file that Denon supplies at the start of Scratch Live for the dual function of the knobs to work even thought the map shows its already loaded in Serato SL setup.
In versions after 2.2 the dual functions and also DJ-EFX deck assignment functions dont work at all not matter what you try.

Heres the post: serato.com
caliguy 8:00 PM - 7 February, 2012
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If I follow these instructions the tracks will be super load

Oops! I meant super loud.

Also, yes I have tried all versions 2.2.2 to version 2.3.3
Yes I have the most current SL3 firmware loaded.
Yes I have the most current Denon HC1000S firmware loaded.
aireyc 8:24 PM - 7 February, 2012
Easiest test for the meters/gain issue that has occurred since version 2.2.2: Load up a clean Scratch Live install without auto gain enabled and load a track in the offline player. The vast majority of modern tracks with correct mastering will usually have the kick drum peak very close to 0dB, meaning the vu meters should be in the yellow and for most tracks will also touch the red at times. Since 2.2.2, the meters will never touch yellow in the offline player. In the 2.3 beta, in addition to the meters being off, the actual volume output would also be a lot lower. For example, if you played a track while recording audio out in something like Audacity, the recorded sound would peak in the range of -6dB to -3dB instead of 0dB as it does for all versions pre-2.2.2. Essentially the meters are reading correctly but the volume is just low.

I get this on both Mac and Windows. It's a pain in the rear trying to adjust volume levels for older tracks when everything is in the green and it's a guessing game as to whether you have consistent volume across all tracks.
caliguy 8:44 PM - 7 February, 2012
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Essentially the meters are reading correctly but the volume is just low.

I get this on both Mac and Windows. It's a pain in the rear trying to adjust volume levels for older tracks when everything is in the green and it's a guessing game as to whether you have consistent volume across all tracks.
I doubt that they are reading correctly because if set a track in yellow its super load and my mixers gain also shows up way over 0db.

My tracks are original 320kps current Hip Hop and Electro tracks for the most part.
damehype 1:06 AM - 8 February, 2012
Hey Rane, are you guys showcasing the 62/61 at Mobile Beat this week?
Rane
TrevorW 1:14 AM - 8 February, 2012
Heck yeah!
BERTO 1:22 AM - 8 February, 2012
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Heck yeah!

Check out the mp26 review on the magazine page 56 and Crane stand on pg 59
SiRocket 2:38 AM - 8 February, 2012
wonder if they are showcasing the mixtape functions of the bridge at mobile beat...........
djcrap 3:15 AM - 8 February, 2012
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wonder if they are showcasing the mixtape functions of the bridge at mobile beat...........


hahahahaha now you pushing it and trying to pull a fast one...lol
djdannyd 3:41 AM - 8 February, 2012
One word: musik.messefrankfurt.com
skinnyguy 9:05 AM - 8 February, 2012
DJ AUDISSEY aka joe sol killed it at mblv on the 62 and ableton. Not only was his set sick, he showcased a lot of scratchlive, ableton, and the 62's features.....compared to the other guys who just skratched..
SiRocket 12:51 PM - 8 February, 2012
ahhh so the mixer showcased the dj instead of the dj working the gear :p
dj-freestyle 5:20 PM - 8 February, 2012
So the 62 worked with ableton?
citi 5:47 PM - 8 February, 2012
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So the 62 worked with ableton?


All of the mixers work with ableton. Some of them (at the current time) don't offer the same feature sets as others, like complete mixtape functionality.
Rane
TrevorW 6:41 PM - 8 February, 2012
"Mixtape" is a Serato feature to record sets and edit them in Ableton.

The mixer with CoreAudio/ASIO driver supports Ableton as a soundcard and MIDI controller
J.J. 6:57 PM - 8 February, 2012
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wonder if they are showcasing the mixtape functions of the bridge at mobile beat...........

I see what you did there.
i0.kym-cdn.com
citi 7:35 PM - 8 February, 2012
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"Mixtape" is a Serato feature to record sets and edit them in Ableton.

The mixer with CoreAudio/ASIO driver supports Ableton as a soundcard and MIDI controller


The desrition keeps changing on the RANE site and it's becoming very annoying.

The Sixty-One Mixer supports both analog and Digital Vinyl Simulation (DVS) playback. The mixer is bundled with Serato Scratch Live and includes ASIO and Core Audio drivers to use other audio programs. Two Serato Control Vinyl Records and two Serato Control CDs are included.

Does this mean that the 61 WILL support the mixtape feature?

I honestly don't understand why the 61 would have core audio/asio built in and not the 62. Seems a$$ backwards. Especially considering the 68 can do the mixtape function. What am I missing?
citi 7:35 PM - 8 February, 2012
*description*
The Return of Dj Sparky 7:48 PM - 8 February, 2012
both mixers will have the core audio drivers,
so basically you can use the mixer as a soundcard for other audio programs and also map midi the pots and faders to the eq's

when using the mixer in scratch live you can not map the midi they are pre programmed to the buttons in scratch live, untill serato allow this to be unlocked

all the rane mixers can do the mixape, the thing is serato seem to be droping the feature from the next release, its nothing hardware related there just restricting the feature on the software apparently as they cant fix the problems with it
Rane
TrevorW 8:23 PM - 8 February, 2012
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both mixers will have the core audio drivers,
so basically you can use the mixer as a soundcard for other audio programs and also map midi the pots and faders to the eq's

when using the mixer in scratch live you can not map the midi they are pre programmed to the buttons in scratch live, untill serato allow this to be unlocked

all the rane mixers can do the mixape, the thing is serato seem to be droping the feature from the next release, its nothing hardware related there just restricting the feature on the software apparently as they cant fix the problems with it

+1
damehype 8:59 PM - 8 February, 2012
J. Millz on the 62 today. Dope.
AKIEM 2:57 AM - 9 February, 2012
TrevorW,
on 62, can USB1 work SSL, while USB2 does Core Audio/ASIO to a second computer?
If yes, PGM1 / PGM2 - POST FADER?
WarpNote 5:33 AM - 9 February, 2012
You can on the 68, only one flex fx loop on the mixer though.
WarpNote 8:19 AM - 9 February, 2012
Another basic question about 62, assuming the answer is "yes"...?

Does the 62 have gain structure similar to the 68, ie as long as your not running into reds, you'll be able to crank up the master without any fear of clipping?
nik39 1:32 PM - 9 February, 2012
Hey Akiem,

hope it's okay if I answer this question...
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on 62, can USB1 work SSL, while USB2 does Core Audio/ASIO to a second computer?

Yup, that works.

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If yes, PGM1 / PGM2 - POST FADER?

Yes.

But it's not possible to record Post and Pre Fader at the same time, and also not possible to record Midi on the 2nd laptop. Otherwise you could have done something similar like Mixtape.. recording pre (and post fader) per channel, plus recording all control changes on the mixer by midi (like eq's, faders etc.
AKIEM 1:58 PM - 9 February, 2012
NICE!

Pre and Post would be nice too, but Im happy with jus post mi thinks.

hmm, I just had a crazy idea, think this one might be patentable....
nik39 3:41 PM - 9 February, 2012
Tell me by PM. I promise I won't sell the idea to Rane ;)
DJ Prinvale` 5:29 PM - 9 February, 2012
ugh AGIPRODJ changed the ship date to Feb 17th (from the 10th).

C'mon Serato!
wadup 5:50 PM - 9 February, 2012
^^^^^ might even go into march
dj vegas 6:25 PM - 9 February, 2012
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ugh AGIPRODJ changed the ship date to Feb 17th (from the 10th).

C'mon Serato!

damn:(
Rebelguy 6:28 PM - 9 February, 2012
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So is Serato paying Apple for allowing it to read itunes playlists?

thats not a plug-in, its just serato reading a file that is created by itunes


Mix emergency is not a plug-in. It's a standalone application that's reading a file created by Scratchlive.
DJ Tapout 6:35 PM - 9 February, 2012
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ugh AGIPRODJ changed the ship date to Feb 17th (from the 10th).

C'mon Serato!


Yes they have changed the shipping date on me also, Mine was going to ship today :(

Serato you are killing us ......................
SiRocket 8:25 PM - 9 February, 2012
i would rather get my shit in june if it means that it will be stable....
HYDRO MATIC 8:34 PM - 9 February, 2012
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i would rather get my shit in june if it means that it will be stable....

+1
dj shadow from detroit 8:42 PM - 9 February, 2012
i agree . relax let them do what they have to do.
Trinicapone 10:01 PM - 9 February, 2012
I got the same bad news! I was in the market to buy my QSC KW's so I think I'm canceling until like June and get my QSC's instead.
DJ Tapout 10:31 PM - 9 February, 2012
Does anyone from Rane know the exact release date for the mixers?
Frankie Glasses 12:18 AM - 10 February, 2012
no one truly knows except the team at Serato.
caliguy 12:51 AM - 10 February, 2012
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no one truly knows except the team at Serato.

No one really knows but its provocative....it gets people going! LOL
Frankie Glasses 12:53 AM - 10 February, 2012
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Quote:
no one truly knows except the team at Serato.

No one really knows but its provocative....it gets people going! LOL

HAHAHA.I was actually thinking about that while typing that.
caliguy 1:03 AM - 10 February, 2012
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HAHAHA.I was actually thinking about that while typing that.

I know, it was obvious, so someone had to say it. Hahaha.
Rane
TrevorW 11:25 PM - 14 February, 2012
Rane Sixty-One and Sixty-Two shipping NOW.
DJ Dub Cowboy 11:31 PM - 14 February, 2012
62Z?
J.J. 11:32 PM - 14 February, 2012
62Z?
DJ Prinvale` 11:32 PM - 14 February, 2012
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Rane Sixty-One and Sixty-Two shipping NOW.


OMG!!!!
DJ Prinvale` 11:33 PM - 14 February, 2012
soooo

excited

just

peed

a

little
Rebelguy 11:36 PM - 14 February, 2012
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Rane Sixty-One and Sixty-Two shipping NOW.


But where is 2.4? So a mixer is shipping that can't be used?
Rane
TrevorW 11:36 PM - 14 February, 2012
I believe the 62Z is still scheduled for next month. But Sixty-One's and Sixty-Two's are truckin down the highway right now.
wadup 11:37 PM - 14 February, 2012
you will probably see the public beta tonight
wadup 11:37 PM - 14 February, 2012
most likely the new mixer is bundle with ssl 2.3.5
DJ Unique 11:40 PM - 14 February, 2012
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most likely the new mixer is bundle with ssl 2.3.5

Not really.
It's version 2.3.9999
DJ Prinvale` 11:41 PM - 14 February, 2012
.9999 = 1

which means

2.4
wadup 11:41 PM - 14 February, 2012
Lol...doesnt matter hoping to get mine by the wkend
DJ Unique 11:41 PM - 14 February, 2012
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I believe the 62Z is still scheduled for next month. But Sixty-One's and Sixty-Two's are truckin down the highway right now.

From Rane to distributers?
Or from distributers to us?
HaHaHa...

I want my 62 yesterday.
DJ Prinvale` 11:41 PM - 14 February, 2012
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Lol...doesnt matter hoping to get mine by the wkend


SAME! my g/f is busy most of the weekend with family so I'm REALLY hoping I get it Friday/Saturday.
Rebelguy 11:46 PM - 14 February, 2012
Well whoever ordered from AGI will probably get theirs first as they are the closest to Rane distance-wise. After them it should be the rest of the West Coast stores. All the East Coast stores probably won't get their shipments until next week.
DJ Prinvale` 11:48 PM - 14 February, 2012
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Well whoever ordered from AGI will probably get theirs first as they are the closest to Rane distance-wise. After them it should be the rest of the West Coast stores. All the East Coast stores probably won't get their shipments until next week.


I was just talking to the AGI guys and they said they said they'll ship out same day as arrival. Which means tomorrow (hopefully)

I'm in Cali so I'm hoping fed ex does its thing and get here...
dj-freestyle 11:50 PM - 14 February, 2012
Well rane people what version of scratch live will be used?
Frankie Glasses 11:55 PM - 14 February, 2012
i ordered from AGI!!!! and in so-cal
Frankie Glasses 12:02 AM - 15 February, 2012
AGI also updated the ship date to the 15th!!!!
DJ Prinvale` 12:03 AM - 15 February, 2012
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AGI also updated the ship date to the 15th!!!!


this day is just getting better and better
Frankie Glasses 12:20 AM - 15 February, 2012
I hope its not an emotional roller-coaster as in this:
Get mixer in hand= Excitement
Load up 2.4 and serato video and it has some bugs= Pissed
DJ Tapout 1:23 AM - 15 February, 2012
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I believe the 62Z is still scheduled for next month. But Sixty-One's and Sixty-Two's are truckin down the highway right now.


Dang and i order the 62Z with overnight shipping
Guess i will have to wait till next month unless i decide to cancel my order over not being able to use ME
DJ Tapout 1:25 AM - 15 February, 2012
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Load up 2.4 and serato video and it has some bugs= Pissed


Where did you download these from ?
aj5000 1:38 AM - 15 February, 2012
Get mine mañana got that call today love living close to Rane
Trinicapone 2:59 AM - 15 February, 2012
Lmfaoooo to see this forum simmer down with the announcement of the mixer shopping tomorrow.
dj-freestyle 6:06 PM - 15 February, 2012
rane.com



manual
djdannyd 6:07 PM - 15 February, 2012
There's a manual inside the box where the mixer is in. Besides, who reads the manual anyway.
dj-freestyle 6:10 PM - 15 February, 2012
really no idea. lordy. relax champ
DJ Dub Cowboy 6:20 PM - 15 February, 2012
I do!
pdidy 6:21 PM - 15 February, 2012
i read it
Frankie Glasses 6:22 PM - 15 February, 2012
me too!
Thanks for posting the manual!
I like to read up on everything so when i get it i have a head start on what to do with it.
Kepik 6:34 PM - 15 February, 2012
I read it as well.
bboysupafly 8:00 PM - 15 February, 2012
Everything is on this mixer is midi functional
DJBIGWIZ 8:29 PM - 15 February, 2012
I usually read through it a few times
DJ'Que 8:34 PM - 15 February, 2012
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my 57 is going on Craigslist
shit mines is on there.
dj-freestyle 8:39 PM - 15 February, 2012
Ive been djing 20 plus and i still like to read the manual. Ive actually learned things i didnt know year later going back and reading them again. never hurts to have the knowledge i think
DJ Barticus 8:51 PM - 15 February, 2012
you gotta read the manual, how else are you gonna kill time while you wait for the mixer to ship

did you know double clicking on the track load knob does instant doubles for the OTHER side? now you do

thanks manual
pdidy 8:52 PM - 15 February, 2012
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Quote:
my 57 is going on Craigslist
shit mines is on there.

Just put mine on last nite.
aj5000 9:12 PM - 15 February, 2012
thank god I sold mine a week ago now i'm sure is going to be a shit load of them on craigslist
dj vegas 9:14 PM - 15 February, 2012
yep i sold my 68:)
dj vegas 9:26 PM - 15 February, 2012
any word on the shops that have them in stock and ready top ship first?
Joee 9:28 PM - 15 February, 2012
i sold my 57 as soon as they stopped making sl1......i did miss it until now, i got the same thing a payed for it
Steve Dub. 9:31 PM - 15 February, 2012
Ordered mine! Can't wait for Saturday!
DJBRIANM 9:41 PM - 15 February, 2012
youtu.be
aj5000 10:49 PM - 15 February, 2012
Picking up mine right now platinum Records and AGIprodj has them. Most will by tomorrow and East Coast after where by Seattle so we get the first
Frankie Glasses 11:23 PM - 15 February, 2012
Lucky !!! (napoleon dynamite)
Rane, Support
Chad S. 11:26 PM - 15 February, 2012
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i read it


We love you :)
AKIEM 11:28 PM - 15 February, 2012
read it, still have questions
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:30 PM - 15 February, 2012
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read it, still have questions

Then simply reread it ;) j/k!
Steve Dub. 11:35 PM - 15 February, 2012
burn!
Frankie Glasses 11:38 PM - 15 February, 2012
just start pressing all the damn buttons till you figure it out!
Rane
TrevorW 11:42 PM - 15 February, 2012
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just start pressing all the damn buttons till you figure it out!


This annoys the dancefloor.
Steve Dub. 11:43 PM - 15 February, 2012
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Quote:
just start pressing all the damn buttons till you figure it out!


This annoys the dancefloor.


seems to work for a lot of EDM dj's.
Frankie Glasses 11:57 PM - 15 February, 2012
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Quote:
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just start pressing all the damn buttons till you figure it out!


This annoys the dancefloor.


seems to work for a lot of EDM dj's.

actually i think they call it dubstep
Dj Bacik 12:14 AM - 16 February, 2012
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actually i think they call it dubstep


You misspelled Seizure
aj5000 12:35 AM - 16 February, 2012
Well I just got my mixer I'm at work but so far by just looking at it and feeling it . Is light like the 57 wider and the buttons are nothing like the 68 i used the 68 and these are definitely different once my co-work leaves in installing 2.4 and do a little testing
AKIEM 12:49 AM - 16 February, 2012
nah, Im not sold on it yet - weighing the + and - (besides the cost)
wondering will some of the - go away....
Frankie Glasses 12:54 AM - 16 February, 2012
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Well I just got my mixer I'm at work but so far by just looking at it and feeling it . Is light like the 57 wider and the buttons are nothing like the 68 i used the 68 and these are definitely different once my co-work leaves in installing 2.4 and do a little testing

nice! at least post some pics
aj5000 12:56 AM - 16 February, 2012
Will do right now
aj5000 1:30 AM - 16 February, 2012
Here is a few

img.photobucket.com

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lvmez 1:31 AM - 16 February, 2012
very nice.
Jiggy Flipp L.O.T 1:55 AM - 16 February, 2012
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very nice.
BERTO 2:23 AM - 16 February, 2012
jealous.....
asthmatic 3:05 AM - 16 February, 2012
i cant wait to get mine next week, thanks for the teaser pics. play with 2.4 and report back
Frankie Glasses 3:07 AM - 16 February, 2012
nice!
aj5000 3:09 AM - 16 February, 2012
Well after installing 2.4 and using it INT man yes the buttons witch where my biggest concern are ten times better then the 68 still made from hard plastic but they give just a bit also there tilted a little with a little slope small but there and are super respondsive. The Layout is way easier then the 68 with time I'll be right at home . The up faders are a little shorter then the 57 wierd but with time will see what I feel about that. Fader caps are also bigger and feel better then the older ones like they won't fall off alll I can say is so far with out turntables at work I can't get it in to see what it can do but so far I'm happy I got it
Frankie Glasses 3:10 AM - 16 February, 2012
thanks for the update! keep us posted on 2.4
Niro 3:18 AM - 16 February, 2012
The upfaders are the same as the 57, it's the same as the crossfader. Shorter than the 68.
Res-Q 3:19 AM - 16 February, 2012
looks really nice!!! thx for the heads up
aj5000 3:31 AM - 16 February, 2012
With the fader maybe the same as in a magnetic fader but they do look like they have a shorter throw to me!? But it may just be in my head since the mixer is a little bigger then The 57. I will have to check and compar with a 57 . As for the 2.4 it all seems the same other then the setup you have more hardware control over the mixer like the effects sync the filter and other stuff I maybe worng I just don't see anything diff. I'm at work though can't wait to get home and go hard on it
DJ Dub Cowboy 3:33 AM - 16 February, 2012
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Fader caps are also bigger and feel better then the older ones like they won't fall off all


Those are a new fader cap design and they will stay solid on until you force them off to do anything under the faceplate. They will still stay on after that but they will perform much like the previous series of fader caps.

It's a shame too because one of the first things I want to do is pop that faceplate off and have a look around. They do feel nice though.
AKIEM 8:12 AM - 16 February, 2012
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It's a shame too because one of the first things I want to do is pop that faceplate off and have a look around. They do feel nice though.[/quote
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aj5000 8:45 AM - 16 February, 2012
Here it is on a black label crate since a few wanted to know if it fits. Well it does kinda off had to remove the side things and may have to trim it down a little on the sides more check it out

Top View
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Back Top View
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Yop front video
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side view
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benictrs 9:05 AM - 16 February, 2012
hey aj500 does VSL and ME work with the 62 and ssl 2.4 ??? it's a need to know pls :)
aj5000 9:16 AM - 16 February, 2012
nope neither I tried it says when your go into plugin area. It says to go to serato.com to download Serato Video its a free upgrade but its not available no video for right now
DJ'Que 9:30 AM - 16 February, 2012
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hey aj500 does VSL and ME work with the 62 and ssl 2.4 ??? it's a need to know pls :)
really after all the kaios with ME and serato you thought it was a joke.
benictrs 9:36 AM - 16 February, 2012
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nope neither I tried it says when your go into plugin area. It says to go to serato.com to download Serato Video its a free upgrade but its not available no video for right now

thx for the response aj500 not so happy about the info :( so they released a mixer without video support creating a black hole in their support for "video dj's" and not talking about support for Me here , they have released equipment witch doesn't work with serato's own video software VSL(the only one available for the users in this moment) .
damehype 11:36 AM - 16 February, 2012
^ uh yeah, they had already stated that neither VSL nor ME. Would work
BattleFunk 2:50 PM - 16 February, 2012
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just start pressing all the damn buttons till you figure it out!


This annoys the dancefloor.


pmsl
DJ Super Mario 4:06 PM - 16 February, 2012
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thx for the response aj500 not so happy about the info :( so they released a mixer without video support creating a black hole in their support for "video dj's" and not talking about support for Me here , they have released equipment witch doesn't work with serato's own video software VSL(the only one available for the users in this moment) .


Serato Video is supported, isn't it??? Again.. ME is NOT a Serato product... Serato Video, (which is the free upgrade from VSL) is supported as far as I know...
Kepik 5:28 PM - 16 February, 2012
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Serato Video is supported, isn't it??? Again.. ME is NOT a Serato product... Serato Video, (which is the free upgrade from VSL) is supported as far as I know...


It's supported, but its not available for download. So for those that don't have a 57/68 or an SL box, they're stuck waiting for Serato Video to come out in March. I'll still hold onto my 68 for the time being.
dj-freestyle 5:33 PM - 16 February, 2012
For the poeple who dont have a ttm 57 and wanted to do video with there 61 or 62 and cant till march thats pretty shitty. im suprised they did that.
Joee 5:36 PM - 16 February, 2012
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nope neither I tried it says when your go into plugin area. It says to go to serato.com to download Serato Video its a free upgrade but its not available no video for right now

did you try the 62 with a older version of scratcLive? i know they say it wont work! but they also said my mp4 mixer would not work with 2.3.3, & it does work!
WarpNote 5:38 PM - 16 February, 2012
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im suprised they did that.

Probably wanted to get the mixers out asap, and march are just a few weeks away.
Not the end of the world IMO...
dj-freestyle 5:39 PM - 16 February, 2012
Would be if you had gig this weekend and need to do video and sold your ttm
YZ 5:41 PM - 16 February, 2012
so have these things hit guitar center yet?
victor_M 5:43 PM - 16 February, 2012
Ladies and Gentlemen

Unfortunately this is the price we pay for being early adapters.
damehype 5:44 PM - 16 February, 2012
Shouldn't have sold your 57 if you didn't have anything else. Should've done research also and not assumed. I sold my 68 weeks ago, but I had my backup Pio 400 and SL2 to do any gigs I had. As soon as I receive my 62 tomorrow, Pio and SL2 (probably) will be up for grabs
Rane, Support
Chad S. 6:27 PM - 16 February, 2012
Congrats and big ups for all those who are already putting their hands on this...... I feel less special today ;)
bicedidit 6:37 PM - 16 February, 2012
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Congrats and big ups for all those who are aware of what they are spending almost $2k on
dj-freestyle 6:47 PM - 16 February, 2012
i didnt sell it im just saying for people who did. im not that stupid. lol
aj5000 7:02 PM - 16 February, 2012
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nope neither I tried it says when your go into plugin area. It says to go to serato.com to download Serato Video its a free upgrade but its not available no video for right now

did you try the 62 with a older version of scratcLive? i know they say it wont work! but they also said my mp4 mixer would not work with 2.3.3, & it does work!


yes I did! and still no go the mixer need 2.4 no matter what to work as for having a Video gig I'll be using a DJM800 and SL3/ME this weekend so thats covered. The reason I got it now because i could afford to and i wanted top dollar for my old ass 57 (I did too) I've been happy with the Rane & the 57 so there was no reason not to get it

But if your happy with your 57 and really live off ME and Video I wouldn't buy just yet
Rane, Support
Chad S. 7:03 PM - 16 February, 2012
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Congrats and big ups for all those who are aware of what they are spending almost $2k on


You forgot to mention to those who aware of the total awesomeness they now posses and the tools this mixer provides that no other mixer on the market does. Thought I would finish your sentence since you decided to re write mine ;)
Noirlaw 7:06 PM - 16 February, 2012
I received my Rane 62 thi morning at my office. It is beautiful! The guys at agiprodj.com really took care of me. I live in Texas and paid $80 extra to have it shipped overnight. I can't wait to hook it up.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 7:09 PM - 16 February, 2012
BOO-YAH \m/
djdannyd 7:12 PM - 16 February, 2012
I took the day off when I first received my 57SL, I may take the whole week off when I get my sixty-two
dj-freestyle 7:15 PM - 16 February, 2012
It is amzing stuff. its at home in the box with my dog hopefully not mixing. im gonna be pissed if you uses it first. dam dog
DJ Prinvale` 7:15 PM - 16 February, 2012
I'm staying home tomorrow and waiting for the fed ex guy :)
Trinicapone 7:15 PM - 16 February, 2012
Yo I see this must be a East Coast West Coast thing cause I was preordered since the 2 and I don't have mine yet! But I know it's coming
damehype 7:18 PM - 16 February, 2012
Doesn't seem like sales were as hurt as speculated, huh?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:18 PM - 16 February, 2012
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I'll be using a DJM800 and SL3/ME this weekend so thats covered.

Connect your SL3 to your Sixty-Two via RCA, use the 2.3.3 version of SSL (or whichever you want for video), connect the Sixty-Two to your computer VIA USB and MIDI map the controls on the Sixty-Two to Scratch Live. It will still work as a Core Audio/ASIO device/MIDI controller :-)
YZ 7:19 PM - 16 February, 2012
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Congrats and big ups for all those who are aware of what they are spending almost $2k on


Any way you slice it though... he's right. If I didn't get a $1,000 for my 57SL there would be no way I would or would justify spending 2 large on a bit more functionality.

Nonetheless, minus the NASA space shuttle blinking and colored ying yang... the guts of what this new one can do makes it a leader. My 2 cents (coming from a 90s DJ who used to spend $100 bucks on mixers)
Frankie Glasses 7:21 PM - 16 February, 2012
Hmm so i guess this is a possible work around if we want to use ME????
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:23 PM - 16 February, 2012
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Hmm so i guess this is a possible work around if we want to use ME????

Are you referring to this?
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I'll be using a DJM800 and SL3/ME this weekend so thats covered.

Connect your SL3 to your Sixty-Two via RCA, use the 2.3.3 version of SSL (or whichever you want for video), connect the Sixty-Two to your computer VIA USB and MIDI map the controls on the Sixty-Two to Scratch Live. It will still work as a Core Audio/ASIO device/MIDI controller :-)
Frankie Glasses 7:24 PM - 16 February, 2012
yes.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:31 PM - 16 February, 2012
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yes.

Then yes :)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:31 PM - 16 February, 2012
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yes.

Then yes :)

The SL3 works as the soundcard for SSL and the 62 is simply the mixer and MIDI controller.
Frankie Glasses 7:32 PM - 16 February, 2012
any difference if i only have a sl1 box?
dj-freestyle 7:42 PM - 16 February, 2012
shouldnt be
WarpNote 7:50 PM - 16 February, 2012
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Would be if you had gig this weekend and need to do video and sold your ttm

I think you answered this one yourself.
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i didnt sell it im just saying for people who did. im not that stupid. lol

Ie always be prepared with a backup solution.
As I said, a few weeks until march is not the end of the world.
dj-freestyle 7:57 PM - 16 February, 2012
@warp, for sure. i just felt bad for the people who dont that was all. Ive been doign this long enought to have a back up plan to the back up plan lol lol
Rane
TrevorW 8:04 PM - 16 February, 2012
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It is amzing stuff. its at home in the box with my dog hopefully not mixing. im gonna be pissed if you uses it first. dam dog


i.imgur.com
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:05 PM - 16 February, 2012
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any difference if i only have a sl1 box?

Nope :)
Frankie Glasses 8:09 PM - 16 February, 2012
How i am gonna feel like when i get the 62 hahah
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DJ Unique 8:11 PM - 16 February, 2012
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How i am gonna feel like when i get the 62 hahah
i.imgur.com

Same here.
I'm going to NOT read the manual as always and press every single button to see what happens.
Then I'll be pissed off cause I won't know why other DJs can do crazy stuff on their mixer and I can't. At least this is what happened with my 57SL..... HaHaHa...
Rane
TrevorW 8:15 PM - 16 February, 2012
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How i am gonna feel like when i get the 62 hahah
i.imgur.com


Hahaha. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with how intuitive it is.
Frankie Glasses 8:19 PM - 16 February, 2012
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just start pressing all the damn buttons till you figure it out!

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Same here.
I'm going to NOT read the manual as always and press every single button to see what happens.

that was what i had said some posts above! hahah
Rane, Support
Chad S. 8:21 PM - 16 February, 2012
I press buttons with my elbows. Next level \m/
Frankie Glasses 8:23 PM - 16 February, 2012
^^^gangsta
Rebelguy 8:24 PM - 16 February, 2012
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I press buttons with my elbows. Next level \m/


The evolution of body tricks.
YZ 8:25 PM - 16 February, 2012
What's up with my Guitar Center saying they're not getting them till mid-March!?! Damn.
Rebelguy 8:29 PM - 16 February, 2012
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What's up with my Guitar Center saying they're not getting them till mid-March!?! Damn.


Weird. I would assume Rane would have to ship to their main warehouse and then it is distributed from there?? Maybe they are waiting to see what the demand is?
DJ Super Mario 8:40 PM - 16 February, 2012
Is Rane coming out with a foam top protector like the MFC 1 for the 57SL equivalent for the 62? I use the UDG Creator bag and would need it to safely transport the mixer to my gigs.
Res-Q 11:00 PM - 16 February, 2012
^^^^ +1
Steve Dub. 12:54 AM - 17 February, 2012
Not sure if this was asked but are the new mixers shipping with the new performance control vinyl?
aj5000 12:56 AM - 17 February, 2012
^^^ nope just regular vinyl ^^^
Steve Dub. 1:01 AM - 17 February, 2012
lame
Frankie Glasses 1:24 AM - 17 February, 2012
^^exactly.
Performance mixer should include the performance vinyl.
funny thing is that no one has any performance blacks in!. Only deep purple with the bundle at $60+.
I got some G.I.D.'s anyways but didnt want to use them for everyday use.
Ill prob just use the H&Q's since they have the new tone.
Joee 1:28 AM - 17 February, 2012
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^^exactly.
Performance mixer should include the performance vinyl.
funny thing is that no one has any performance blacks in!. Only deep purple with the bundle at $60+.
I got some G.I.D.'s anyways but didnt want to use them for everyday use.
Ill prob just use the H&Q's since they have the new tone.

+1, with all the money were spending on a 62......the least they could do is include the new vinyl
benictrs 1:34 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Would be if you had gig this weekend and need to do video and sold your ttm

or sold your sl1 , sl2 . . . sl4 to buy finally a mixer from rane and remained uncovered from the video point of view (and the finance's point of view)
lvmez 1:34 AM - 17 February, 2012
what? I didn't buy a pair of new black vinyls because I thought they were coming with mixer.

wow. serato went cheap on that.
djdannyd 1:45 AM - 17 February, 2012
guys, these new performance vinyl will be available again soon enough. Yes, I'd love the new vinyl to come with the 62 but the reality is that they will both work just fine. CV2 will eventually be phased out and fully replaced with CV2.5
sacrilicious 1:46 AM - 17 February, 2012
Hey aj5000 want to join me at my gig tonight at Society and bring that bad boy? Heh...
aj5000 1:57 AM - 17 February, 2012
^^^ hahaha I was going to be at YOLO tonight bur took the day off to go to the Blazers VS clippers game but that's a good one
aireyc 2:05 AM - 17 February, 2012
2.4 released for 62-61 users, gain bug fixed finally!
SiRocket 2:07 AM - 17 February, 2012
for the video peeps that have to bring their mixers to their "club" gigs.... and already sold their 57's.... they should be paying you enough extra $$$ to bring your gear to the club, where you could rent a 57?? :p
sacrilicious 2:08 AM - 17 February, 2012
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^^^ hahaha I was going to be at YOLO tonight bur took the day off to go to the Blazers VS clippers game but that's a good one


Ha word so you're not using it tonight?
Sunny Up 2:16 AM - 17 February, 2012
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^^^ hahaha I was going to be at YOLO tonight bur took the day off to go to the Blazers VS clippers game but that's a good one


Lob City yeeee
djvtyme85 2:49 AM - 17 February, 2012
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^^exactly.
Performance mixer should include the performance vinyl.
funny thing is that no one has any performance blacks in!. Only deep purple with the bundle at $60+.
I got some G.I.D.'s anyways but didnt want to use them for everyday use.
Ill prob just use the H&Q's since they have the new tone.


I got both for $60
aj5000 2:50 AM - 17 February, 2012
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^^^ hahaha I was going to be at YOLO tonight bur took the day off to go to the Blazers VS clippers game but that's a good one


Ha word so you're not using it tonight?



Nope it's sitting at home and I won't using it on Friday or Saturday I'll be using a DJM800 and SL3 till I feel good about 2.4 not enought time on the wheel of it to be happy playing live with it so not worth the risk for me but next week heavy use Fat Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday
Rane, Support
Shaun W 2:55 AM - 17 February, 2012
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^^^ hahaha I was going to be at YOLO tonight bur took the day off to go to the Blazers VS clippers game but that's a good one


Ha word so you're not using it tonight?



Nope it's sitting at home and I won't using it on Friday or Saturday I'll be using a DJM800 and SL3 till I feel good about 2.4 not enought time on the wheel of it to be happy playing live with it so not worth the risk for me but next week heavy use Fat Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday

I'm guessing you didn't see this post: Quoting myself
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Connect your SL3 to your Sixty-Two via RCA, use the 2.3.3 version of SSL (or whichever you want for video), connect the Sixty-Two to your computer VIA USB and MIDI map the controls on the Sixty-Two to Scratch Live. It will still work as a Core Audio/ASIO device/MIDI controller :-)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 2:58 AM - 17 February, 2012
For those who don't know, you can have more than 1 version of SS installed on your computer.
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Running more than one version of Scratch Live
Installing this version will by default overwrite any previous version you had installed, however it is easy to have more than one version of Scratch Live installed if you wish.

If you have an important gig coming up, you might like to stick with the version you know until you are comfortable with this version. Here's how to do it:

[/b]Windows Users[/b]

Before installing, find the Scratch Live executable (by default it is in C:\Program files\Serato\ScratchLIVE, and rename it. It makes sense to name it in a way that suggests which version of Scratch Live it is. For example, if you're renaming Scratch Live 1.9.2 call it Scratch Live 1.9.2.exe. When you install the new version, the old executable will not be deleted, and you can choose which you want to run by going into that folder and double clicking on the appropriate executable.

Mac users

Before installing, rename the existing application file as above (eg. Scratch Live 1.9.2) - you have to be admin to rename it. (If you aren't admin, you can copy it to another location, and then rename it.)
djdannyd 2:59 AM - 17 February, 2012
Shaun, would you recommend d/l 2.4 even if you don't have the sixty-two (yet), for use on sl-3?
aj5000 3:00 AM - 17 February, 2012
Hahahaha LMAO never mind I will be using my SL3 and my new 62 and MIDI the faders For this weekend since I have one video gig
Rane, Support
Shaun W 3:01 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Shaun, would you recommend d/l 2.4 even if you don't have the sixty-two (yet), for use on sl-3?


It's not officially recommend to use 2.4 with other hardware (eg SL3), but I personally tested 2.4 with the SL3 and all the features and functions seemed to work just fine.
aj5000 3:03 AM - 17 February, 2012
Another question Shaun is 2.4 safe to use live ? I really don't trust it yet but I haven't had enough time with it I'm sure u have so what u think?!?!? Live ???
djdannyd 3:05 AM - 17 February, 2012
I will give it a try and report back on the help section if any problems arise. Will there be a public beta for serato video. I'm very interested on trying it out wit the the sixty-two.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 3:05 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Another question Shaun is 2.4 safe to use live ? I really don't trust it yet but I haven't had enough time with it I'm sure u have so what u think?!?!? Live ???

Yes, a lot of testing was done with the 2.4 version.
djdannyd 3:06 AM - 17 February, 2012
I will give it a try and report back on the help section if any problems arise. Will there be a public beta for serato video. I'm very interested on trying it out wit the the sixty-two.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 3:07 AM - 17 February, 2012
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I will give it a try and report back on the help section if any problems arise. Will there be a public beta for serato video. I'm very interested on trying it out wit the the sixty-two.

I don't know, sorry. Serato's driving the video bus and has all the answers for Serato video stuff.
Rane
TrevorW 3:11 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Shaun, would you recommend d/l 2.4 even if you don't have the sixty-two (yet), for use on sl-3?


Tons of testing went into 2.4 on all Rane hardware. The focus was on Sixty-Two and Sixty-One, but we tested previous hardware too. Serato would like to give 2.4 a bit more coverage in the public beta for Rane hardware before Sixty-Two and Sixty-One before it is "fully" released. But 2.4 is packed full of bug fixes and stability improvements and has been performing great.

So, officially: "Stick with 2.3.3 for just a wee bit more."

Unofficially: "It rocks, knock yourself out."
djdannyd 3:11 AM - 17 February, 2012
That's what I figured, doesn't hurt to ask. It's after 7pm, Is Rane offering online support 24/7 now? GO HOME!!! lol
Rane, Support
Shaun W 3:16 AM - 17 February, 2012
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That's what I figured, doesn't hurt to ask. It's after 7pm, Is Rane offering online support 24/7 now? GO HOME!!! lol

Ouch! Busted for being workaholics lol!
DJ Tapout 3:21 AM - 17 February, 2012
Rane i have another DJ that uses Virtual DJ will he be able to use the mixer also?
Say i am out of town and he has to cover for me...

asking because club owner is thinking about getting one also for the club
Rane
TrevorW 3:26 AM - 17 February, 2012
Our ASIO/CoreAudio drivers allow the mixer to be used with virtually all 3rd party software.
aireyc 3:30 AM - 17 February, 2012
Running 2.4 with a ton of tagging issues. All of my keys, years, and disc columns corrupted on the m4a iTunes files (over 1000 screwed up tracks). Can anyone else verify this?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 3:38 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Our ASIO/CoreAudio drivers allow the mixer to be used with virtually all 3rd party software.

No pun intended ;)
Frankie Glasses 3:59 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Running 2.4 with a ton of tagging issues. All of my keys, years, and disc columns corrupted on the m4a iTunes files (over 1000 screwed up tracks). Can anyone else verify this?

uh oh...
how bout regular mp3 & mp4's. any issues with those?
aireyc 4:02 AM - 17 February, 2012
Don't use mp4s but mp3s are fine. Let me grab one and check.
aireyc 4:07 AM - 17 February, 2012
Quick test shows mp4s are fine, but the video I had didn't have any tags set previously. It did save my changes though.
Frankie Glasses 4:12 AM - 17 February, 2012
hmm ok thanks bro for checking that
hopefully someone from rane will pop in with your issue though. Also start a help thread.
Keep us posted!
Johnnynights 5:11 AM - 17 February, 2012
Hey i wanted to know if with the rane 61 you can record your set like the 57?
the_black_one 5:11 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Hey i wanted to know if with the rane 61 you can record your set like the 57?

yep
Johnnynights 5:14 AM - 17 February, 2012
awesome thanks cuz i bought one just waiting for it now
the_black_one 5:17 AM - 17 February, 2012
no prob
AVENUE 7:32 AM - 17 February, 2012
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Yo I see this must be a East Coast West Coast thing cause I was preordered since the 2 and I don't have mine yet! But I know it's coming

where did you order it from?
DJ Super Mario 3:01 PM - 17 February, 2012
Rane... **bump**

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Is Rane coming out with a foam top protector like the MFC 1 for the 57SL equivalent for the 62? I use the UDG Creator bag and would need it to safely transport the mixer to my gigs.
DJ Tapout 4:29 PM - 17 February, 2012
Do we know when the 62Z are going to ship? i pre ordered on Feb 2nd
Joee 4:34 PM - 17 February, 2012
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Do we know when the 62Z are going to ship? i pre ordered on Feb 2nd

www.agiprodj.com
Rane, Support
Chad S. 4:54 PM - 17 February, 2012
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Rane... **bump**


Quote:
Is Rane coming out with a foam top protector like the MFC 1 for the 57SL equivalent for the 62? I use the UDG Creator bag and would need it to safely transport the mixer to my gigs.


Not sure yet. Looking at a few options here. Have you seen the decksaver solid covers?
YZ 7:21 PM - 17 February, 2012
Curious... put my 62 on order & sold my 57 for $999 "buy it now" on eBay. Figured it would be a quick sale and it was. Others are trying to get 11-1200 and aren't getting any bids. This may or may not help others out for all it's worth. 900-1000 seems to be the going rate.
DJ Super Mario 7:27 PM - 17 February, 2012
Chad,

I've seen the Decksaver covers online only... How much larger of a profile are they in comparison to the foam? My UDG Creator bag is already pretty stuffed. Does that mean that Decksaver already has plans for a hard cover for the 62?
SiRocket 7:37 PM - 17 February, 2012
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Curious... put my 62 on order & sold my 57 for $999 "buy it now" on eBay. Figured it would be a quick sale and it was. Others are trying to get 11-1200 and aren't getting any bids. This may or may not help others out for all it's worth. tel:900-1000 seems to be the going rate.


People are redic with charging so much.. Used product is no where near retail... All day long I could get new 57s for 1k from an authorized wholesaler..
L2daGee 7:37 PM - 17 February, 2012
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Curious... put my 62 on order & sold my 57 for $999 "buy it now" on eBay. Figured it would be a quick sale and it was. Others are trying to get 11-1200 and aren't getting any bids. This may or may not help others out for all it's worth. 900-1000 seems to be the going rate.


Sold my 57 on Amazon, for $1150.
YZ 7:49 PM - 17 February, 2012
I also pre-ordered my 62 (just because that was my only choice today) with my man at GC... $1600 + tax. Pow!
Sunny Up 8:14 PM - 17 February, 2012
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Quote:
Curious... put my 62 on order & sold my 57 for $999 "buy it now" on eBay. Figured it would be a quick sale and it was. Others are trying to get 11-1200 and aren't getting any bids. This may or may not help others out for all it's worth. tel:900-1000 seems to be the going rate.


People are redic with charging so much.. Used product is no where near retail... All day long I could get new 57s for 1k from an authorized wholesaler..


Hahah that sucks for the guy I bought a 56 from yesterday. He picked up a new one for 1300.
DJ Unique 8:19 PM - 17 February, 2012
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I also pre-ordered my 62 (just because that was my only choice today) with my man at GC... $1600 + tax. Pow!

In Cali that's $1,756 total and not much of a Pow.
SiRocket 8:29 PM - 17 February, 2012
all who think that gc employee kept the "tax" money as a tip... raise their hands!
asthmatic 8:37 PM - 17 February, 2012
Lol at sirocket. Someone was offering the 62 for mid 15's plus tax from GC.
caliguy 12:46 AM - 19 February, 2012
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2.4 released for 62-61 users, gain bug fixed finally!

Where did you get this info from? How do you know the gain bug was fixed in 2.4?
caliguy 12:54 AM - 19 February, 2012
Never mind I just saw the release...^
WarpNote 1:49 AM - 19 February, 2012
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2.4 released for 62-61 users, gain bug fixed finally!

Where did you get this info from? How do you know the gain bug was fixed in 2.4?

Gain is lower on my 68 in 2.4 compared to 2.3.3...
caliguy 2:46 AM - 19 February, 2012
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Quote:
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2.4 released for 62-61 users, gain bug fixed finally!

Where did you get this info from? How do you know the gain bug was fixed in 2.4?

Gain is lower on my 68 in 2.4 compared to 2.3.3...

Ok I Just ran 2.4 using my SL3.

According to the 2.4 manual the meter should be reading at the highest yellow just under red.
WITHOUT auto gain and the gain knob at 12 O'Clock on the virtual decks the meters are reading two yellow bars before red. Good.
WITH auto gain, 96db is the setting at one yellow before red and the gain knob is between 12 and 1 O'Clock on the virtual decks. 97db auto gain clips and meters read in the red.

In both cases unity gain (main gain) on Scratch Live is at 12 O'Clock.

The output of the SL3 is now reading hotter on my Rane mixer. I now have to set my mixers channels gain knobs backwards to 9 O'Clock position to be at 0db.
dj shadow from detroit 11:04 AM - 19 February, 2012
They updated and made the volumes more uniform in 2.4 ( when using all the different serato hardware ) .... I read about. just wanted to share.
dj vegas 7:04 PM - 19 February, 2012
THANKS FOR SAVING ME 2 GRAND!!! I SOLD MY 68 FOR THIS 62 BUT IF I CANT USE ME I WILL JUST PICK UP A 57 AND SAVE MY MONEY THANKS SERATO/RANE:) LOL THE LATEST VERSION OF SERATO GAVE ME THE WHEEL OF DEATH EVERYTIME I TRIED TO LOAD A TRACK SO UPDATING IS NOT AN ISSUE!I MOPE TRACTOR AND ME HOOK UP SO I CAN TRASH SERATO AND RANE. ME CHANGED THE GAME POINT BLANK!!!
Trinicapone 7:09 PM - 19 February, 2012
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THANKS FOR SAVING ME 2 GRAND!!! I SOLD MY 68 FOR THIS 62 BUT IF I CANT USE ME I WILL JUST PICK UP A 57 AND SAVE MY MONEY THANKS SERATO/RANE:) LOL THE LATEST VERSION OF SERATO GAVE ME THE WHEEL OF DEATH EVERYTIME I TRIED TO LOAD A TRACK SO UPDATING IS NOT AN ISSUE!I MOPE TRACTOR AND ME HOOK UP SO I CAN TRASH SERATO AND RANE. ME CHANGED THE GAME POINT BLANK!!!


Well if it makes you feel better I got a TTM 57 for sale! My Rane 62 will be here the end of the week.
dj vegas 7:12 PM - 19 February, 2012
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THANKS FOR SAVING ME 2 GRAND!!! I SOLD MY 68 FOR THIS 62 BUT IF I CANT USE ME I WILL JUST PICK UP A 57 AND SAVE MY MONEY THANKS SERATO/RANE:) LOL THE LATEST VERSION OF SERATO GAVE ME THE WHEEL OF DEATH EVERYTIME I TRIED TO LOAD A TRACK SO UPDATING IS NOT AN ISSUE!I MOPE TRACTOR AND ME HOOK UP SO I CAN TRASH SERATO AND RANE. ME CHANGED THE GAME POINT BLANK!!!


Well if it makes you feel better I got a TTM 57 for sale! My Rane 62 will be here the end of the week.

I JUST HOPE ME MAKES A VERSION OF SERATO F SERATO! im out of this i think i made my point. I have 2 68's that i made my boss by and i will switch to anything that uses me in the future!
Johnnynights 7:20 PM - 19 February, 2012
2.4 worked perfect for me no problems,did a 5 hour gig
djvtyme85 7:33 PM - 19 February, 2012
Lol that's why I love Mac... Yes I know just trying to start trouble.
djvtyme85 7:33 PM - 19 February, 2012
Oops not trying to
SiRocket 7:48 PM - 19 February, 2012
grammar skills??? #ghetto
djvtyme85 9:15 PM - 19 February, 2012
Sorry I dropped out in the 3rd grade to pursue a acting career lol
caliguy 11:02 PM - 19 February, 2012
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Gain is lower on my 68 in 2.4 compared to 2.3.3...

This is weird,WarpNote. As I stated above on my SL3 the gain increased to where its supposed to be. I wonder if other 68 users are experiencing this problem as you with 2.4 , or maybe the gain was too high for the 68 in version 2.3 so they lowered it in 2.4?

The only thing that seems off is auto gain at 96db is roughly between 12 and 1 on the gain knob for optimum highest yellow right before the red. Was this the case before the gain bugs?
Serato, Forum Moderator
Steve H. 11:24 PM - 19 February, 2012
Hi guys,

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Gain is lower on my 68 in 2.4 compared to 2.3.3...
Check out the 2.4 release notes: serato.com
caliguy 11:46 PM - 19 February, 2012
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Hi guys,

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Gain is lower on my 68 in 2.4 compared to 2.3.3...
Check out the 2.4 release notes: serato.com

Steve H is right. On the manual it doesnt state this but on the release notes it clearly states that the 68 was too loud before 2.4 so the gain was lowered.
WarpNote 5:23 AM - 20 February, 2012
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I wonder if other 68 users are experiencing this problem as you with 2.4

When I wrote this, I was just stating the fact that gain has been lowered a little for the 68, NOT that it is a problem in any way. Just stating the fact, that it works like the release notes states. This is a GOOD thing, as its easier to control peaks on the mixer. Still have loads of headroom. Love the Sixty Eight like the day I bought it :D
YZ 9:17 PM - 20 February, 2012
Anyone receiving their mixer yet for those that purchased at Guitar Center? Ordered mine last Thursday... just curious.
caliguy 2:14 AM - 22 February, 2012
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I wonder if other 68 users are experiencing this problem as you with 2.4

When I wrote this, I was just stating the fact that gain has been lowered a little for the 68, NOT that it is a problem in any way. Just stating the fact, that it works like the release notes states. This is a GOOD thing, as its easier to control peaks on the mixer. Still have loads of headroom. Love the Sixty Eight like the day I bought it :D

Sorry read you wrong bro.
WarpNote 10:08 AM - 22 February, 2012
No worries cali.
Joee 5:21 PM - 22 February, 2012
ups just dropped of some new toys :)

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lvmez 5:30 PM - 22 February, 2012
I was there yesterday when your subs were being shipped. nice.
Joee 5:47 PM - 22 February, 2012
just checked out the sub for a sec, i'm all about the mixer wright now, so far i don't think i will be using this sub for anything but my zxa1's............now BACK to my new mixers
YZ 7:47 PM - 22 February, 2012
Damn... why can't us east coast people get ours! Ha.
pdidy 7:59 PM - 22 February, 2012
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just checked out the sub for a sec, i'm all about the mixer wright now, so far i don't think i will be using this sub for anything but my zxa1's............now BACK to my new mixers

1 question before u get back to the mixer.......If u used them for a small teen party playing loud, how many would it cover about. ?
DJUnknown 8:00 PM - 22 February, 2012
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Damn... why can't us east coast people get ours! Ha.


^^^This!
Joee 8:05 PM - 22 February, 2012
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Damn... why can't us east coast people get ours! Ha.

i'm in philly
DJUnknown 8:10 PM - 22 February, 2012
what store?
Joee 8:16 PM - 22 February, 2012
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just checked out the sub for a sec, i'm all about the mixer wright now, so far i don't think i will be using this sub for anything but my zxa1's............now BACK to my new mixers

1 question before u get back to the mixer.......If u used them for a small teen party playing loud, how many would it cover about. ?

i only took out one, to give a quick test, i'm a bit underwhelmed by the sound of it at first, but i do have my zxa5 sitting on top, i guess this will happen when your use to a jbl vrx

i want to take a listen with my elx12p & zxa1's to really test them out, i'll give you a full report wright now i'm having to much fun with this mixer

but i don't think no more than 100 maybe 150

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what store?

i got the mixers from proaudiostar in brooklyn
lvmez 8:17 PM - 22 February, 2012
i'm nyc, got mine too.
DJUnknown 8:18 PM - 22 February, 2012
Anyone on the east coast got their 62 from GC?
Trinicapone 8:31 PM - 22 February, 2012
I'm getting mine from americanmusical.com but the damn thing is still on back order. They went as far as saying "we are only getting 8 units in" :/ reall!
DJ'Que 8:44 PM - 22 February, 2012
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I'm getting mine from americanmusical.com but the damn thing is still on back order. They went as far as saying "we are only getting 8 units in" :/ reall!
better call agi pro dj or quality electronic's in cali
Dj Nyce 8:44 PM - 22 February, 2012
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Anyone on the east coast got their 62 from GC?


I''m in DC. was supposed to be yesterday. still waiting.
DJUnknown 9:35 PM - 22 February, 2012
Which GC the one in Rockville?
DJUnknown 9:36 PM - 22 February, 2012
If so mine should be here soon then
YZ 10:20 PM - 22 February, 2012
My GC hookup checked on computer, it says "no estimated ship date." Oh well, have no choice but to be patient.
SiRocket 10:59 PM - 22 February, 2012
going to pickup the ladies 61 from my wholesaler right now, can't wait to get the 62z when they start shipping :)
djvtyme85 11:13 PM - 22 February, 2012
In DC chuck levins has em talk to Ron
Dj Nyce 11:32 PM - 22 February, 2012
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Which GC the one in Rockville?


Seven Corners VA
damehype 11:55 PM - 22 February, 2012
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going to pickup the ladies 61 from my wholesaler right now, can't wait to get the 62z when they start shipping :)


According to Serato's latest newsletter, it states the 62Z is also shipping:

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asthmatic 12:06 AM - 23 February, 2012
lol screen shot....i tried to play the vid
J.J. 12:11 AM - 23 February, 2012
I also clicked play knowing it was just a screenshot. LOL
Joee 12:14 AM - 23 February, 2012
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going to pickup the ladies 61 from my wholesaler right now, can't wait to get the 62z when they start shipping :)


According to Serato's latest newsletter, it states the 62Z is also shipping:

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ships the 29th-----> www.agiprodj.com
damehype 12:47 AM - 23 February, 2012
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lol screen shot....i tried to play the vid


The vid you can access from Serato homepage
damehype 12:48 AM - 23 February, 2012
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going to pickup the ladies 61 from my wholesaler right now, can't wait to get the 62z when they start shipping :)


According to Serato's latest newsletter, it states the 62Z is also shipping:

[IMG]i932.photobucket.com[/IMG]

ships the 29th-----> www.agiprodj.com


I'm just saying according to their newsletter, in my inbox, it says all three are shipping now. Could it be a mistake, of course
SiRocket 12:51 AM - 23 February, 2012
good looks damehype!
djdannyd 1:52 AM - 23 February, 2012
Rane knows best, they're not shipping yet.
DJ'Que 5:44 PM - 23 February, 2012
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going to pickup the ladies 61 from my wholesaler right now, can't wait to get the 62z when they start shipping :)


According to Serato's latest newsletter, it states the 62Z is also shipping:

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mines said the samething. I was like wow. thats the day i got my 62 and I was looking for the 62z but he also said the 29th
YZ 8:28 PM - 24 February, 2012
Zach or Chat, I had a huge amount of problems to say the least getting my ASUS G73 series laptop (i7 processor) to work with my 57SL... simply put, it never worked & sound crashed whenever you looked at it funny. Will I have these issues with the 62 as well?
Rane, Support
Chad S. 8:33 PM - 24 February, 2012
NO, you won't have the issues.

PC with i series processor when used with SL 1 or TTM57 will have issues. That is the only combination that has an issue.
DJ Pullout 9:05 PM - 24 February, 2012
Are there any good sites out there for a skin for the 62 yet?

Obviously there is this: shop.turnlabels.net

Any others? I remember seeing a company that would allow you to customize your own skin for the 57. Wondering if they already are doing the 62 as well.....
Steve Dub. 9:07 PM - 24 February, 2012
@Pullout

I think your thinking of 12inchskinz

According to their site they will be coming out with the 61 and 62 skinz this week.
DJ Pullout 9:12 PM - 24 February, 2012
Yup! Thanks Dub.
DJ Prinvale` 11:37 PM - 24 February, 2012
I'm sure styleflip or whatever that place is will have them as well
SiRocket 11:50 PM - 24 February, 2012
styleflip is junk.
DJ'Que 2:07 AM - 25 February, 2012
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styleflip is junk.
+1 and thin
Dj Ace 8:54 AM - 25 February, 2012
best bet is 12inchskins.com

they look legit...very high quality!

www.12inchskins.com
djvtyme85 4:43 AM - 26 February, 2012
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NO, you won't have the issues.

PC with i series processor when used with SL 1 or TTM57 will have issues. That is the only combination that has an issue.


im using a i5 no issues from day one with my 57...so i disagree
DJ DisGrace 12:34 PM - 26 February, 2012
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NO, you won't have the issues.

PC with i series processor when used with SL 1 or TTM57 will have issues. That is the only combination that has an issue.


im using a i5 Mac no issues from day one with my 57...so i disagree

fixed
MelonHead 7:54 PM - 26 February, 2012
serato.com
pdidy 8:27 PM - 26 February, 2012
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NO, you won't have the issues.

PC with i series processor when used with SL 1 or TTM57 will have issues. That is the only combination that has an issue.


im using a i5 no issues from day one with my 57...so i disagree

the issue is with windows pc's not mac.
DJBlisk 9:37 PM - 3 March, 2012
Is it me or does the crossfader not have te same soft bounce has the old 56? This thing click clacks as harsh as a vestax
YZ 2:57 AM - 5 March, 2012
prob you since the fader is the same exact part # as your 56. plus it's brand new so it's not going to be exact like you knew it for some time.
Billy18bm 4:29 AM - 5 March, 2012
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ups just dropped of some new toys :)

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I swear to god i have seen at least 10 posts with these pictures in it. We know you bought 3 JESUS!
pdidy 4:56 AM - 5 March, 2012
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ups just dropped of some new toys :)

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I swear to god i have seen at least 10 posts with these pictures in it. We know you bought 3 JESUS!

it was 2 but close enough....lol
Joee 1:15 PM - 5 March, 2012
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ups just dropped of some new toys :)

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I swear to god i have seen at least 10 posts with these pictures in it. We know you bought 3 JESUS!


imageshack.us <--------it looks SOOO pretty
damehype 2:23 PM - 5 March, 2012
Not in that mixer case though lol
Joee 2:40 PM - 5 March, 2012
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Not in that mixer case though lol

i agree.......lol.......

i just put it in there to show that it fit
Billy18bm 2:49 PM - 5 March, 2012
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ups just dropped of some new toys :)

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I swear to god i have seen at least 10 posts with these pictures in it. We know you bought 3 JESUS!

it was 2 but close enough....lol


maybe in this post. i've seen them all across the forums
DJBlisk 5:06 PM - 5 March, 2012
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prob you since the fader is the same exact part # as your 56. plus it's brand new so it's not going to be exact like you knew it for some time.


Nah. its not me. since I have both.
Res-Q 7:37 PM - 7 March, 2012
Just picked up the first only 2 Rane 61 and 62 available in France, getting ready to demo them at the MixMove tradeshow
Watchwww.youtube.com
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:07 PM - 7 March, 2012
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Just picked up the first only 2 Rane 61 and 62 available in France, getting ready to demo them at the MixMove tradeshow
Watchwww.youtube.com

Awesome! :) Have fun!
nik39 8:09 PM - 7 March, 2012
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Just picked up the first only 2 Rane 61 and 62 available in France, getting ready to demo them at the MixMove tradeshow
Watchwww.youtube.com

Nice.. we'll be at MixMove too .. for the VJ battle.. see you!
Res-Q 8:21 PM - 7 March, 2012
you're here everyday or just monday Nik?
If u need a place to crash holla
nik39 9:26 PM - 7 March, 2012
Monday.. Snap... We already booked a hotel.... Hm. Lemme check.. Does that offer still stand tomorrow? ;)
Res-Q 9:34 PM - 7 March, 2012
yes no problem, but my apptmt is small so it depends how many "we"
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:40 PM - 7 March, 2012
In niks case it means

www.coveralia.com
Res-Q 9:41 PM - 7 March, 2012
if he brings 4 chicks, I'll find enough room hahaha
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:43 PM - 7 March, 2012
Lol how about 3 and 1/2
Djkom 10:12 PM - 7 March, 2012
Hi Rane guys!!

Just a question totally out of the subject:
Do you where I buy same blue and red usb cables as in the rane SL3/SL4 packages?? This is very usefull for Dj back to back performance to have different visible usb cables!

Do the Rane 62 package includes 2 colored usb cables?

Thanks!
Djkom 10:15 PM - 7 March, 2012
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Just picked up the first only 2 Rane 61 and 62 available in France, getting ready to demo them at the MixMove tradeshow
Watchwww.youtube.com


C'est génial ça !!! Quel jour feras tu ta démo? Sais tu si yaura moyen d'acheter a prix discount une Rane 62 aupres d'Audiopole?

Moi j'y serai dimanche!
Res-Q 10:23 PM - 7 March, 2012
viens me voir sur le stand et on discutera Kom, je suis la tout les jours et le lundi soir je participe aux championnats video dj
ninos 2:09 AM - 8 March, 2012
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Joee 3:23 AM - 8 March, 2012
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nice, get some blue vinyl's & your in
ninos 3:47 AM - 8 March, 2012
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nice, get some blue vinyl's & your in


got my tech 1210 mk'5s on the way! cant wait!
Joee 3:48 AM - 8 March, 2012
why? not M5G'S?
Joee 3:50 AM - 8 March, 2012
just looked there only $100 more
ninos 3:57 AM - 8 March, 2012
honestly. not a fan of the glossy black, i could honestly care less about the digital pitch too. was going to get 1210 mk2's, but didnt want the center pitch click. i just love the mk5s!
Johnnynights 7:12 AM - 8 March, 2012
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Nice ninos,post a pic of your whole setup
damehype 2:19 PM - 8 March, 2012
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nice, get some blue vinyl's & your in


Except for when you turn the mixer on. The blue decals become irrelevant
Rane, Support
Chad S. 4:29 PM - 8 March, 2012
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SFW and it looks great. Excellent stickers as well ;)
ninos 7:26 PM - 8 March, 2012
thanks fellas, ill post up a pic of my whole setup in a few days wen my tech's get here...... way to excited!!
ral 2:17 PM - 12 March, 2012
feature request
loop indicator in the mini screen in 62 (68 etc)

not sure if that can be done in the firmware, or maybe in the next mixer release, who knows

+1 here
serato.com
Rory Heath 4:16 AM - 11 May, 2012
Any word on when we'll be seeing custom mapping possibilities on the 62? Rane staff seems to have made it clear it's a software issue and not hardware.
DJ Dub Cowboy 7:12 AM - 11 May, 2012
I saw a post that said it was coming in the next update, which should be in public beta soon
Rory Heath 7:48 AM - 11 May, 2012
Can we expect an update that allows for a grouping mod as well a' la ttm57sl?
YZ 1:14 PM - 11 May, 2012
Gonna have to wait for custom mapping a couple more months unless you're gonna do the beta. I cannot wait, the way I'm forced to have to use this thing now is driving me crazy. Nothing more frustrating that switching cue point/sample bank and accidentally hitting a sample when it's really a cue point.
DJ_X_Trodinaire 1:39 PM - 11 May, 2012
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Nothing more frustrating that switching cue point/sample bank and accidentally hitting a sample when it's really a cue point.


Did you have the 57 before?
The lighted buttons on these 62s are a lot better than the 57 which I do forget what group I am on.
YZ 2:35 PM - 11 May, 2012
Yes, I did. I like the feel of the buttons but I really never had a problem with the 57 ones anyways. I kind of liked the simplicity of the 57 over the 62 as well. That said, it just needs to be unlocked so I can customize it how I need to use it... not how Z trip uses it :/
DJ Deliciouz 12:15 AM - 2 August, 2012
I love my TTM57-SL!