the pice will be around 1600 for the sixty one and for the sixty two around 2000. i still think its two much but its better then the pioneer djm t1.

price!

really? i was thinkin more along the lines of the ttm56 and the ttm57 dropping in price and then the sixty one replacing the 56 and the sixty two replacing the 57 pricewise.
that sixty two aint worth 2 g's.

either way, imma have to trade some stuff in or go the flex pay route with American Musical, once they are available for sale.

I'm getting the 62

Prices:

www.agiprodj.com

www.agiprodj.com

way too much $$$. Maybe i'll get a used one eventually

They just dropped the price on the DJM-T1 to $1200. That smokes even the 61's SRP.

The 61 doesn't even have XLR outputs

Probably holding off on the 62 for now... really, there's nothing wrong with my 57... and although I could use the extra features, I'm not down to shell out the extra cash yet

I am definitely envious of those who can, though!

Yeah. Nonetheless, it doesn't have a layout like the 57 either, so I wouldn't have considered it an option for me anyway.

I think it's kind of strange they would do the whole 56/57 thing with the 61/62... why not make one mixer instead of manufacturing two...

neither one has me excited enough to get rid of my 57... 61 is missing a lot of key features and the 62 is just over priced.

Imma grab the 62 without a doubt.

i think the 57 still holding its own in the mix that 62 is not even a ten inch mixer it look kind a big and it would not fit in my flight case now i,m definitely sorry i got rid of my 57 and i just dont think the 61 is grabbing my attention as yet as dj Rah EasTwooD say it seems to be missing alot important features.

does this mean you need a separate controller for effects control?
"Software effects enabled on the USB digital insert"

I agree with some others comments as well. 61. No XLR outs. 62 @ 2,00 is Way overpriced IMO. Especially when the 68 is about 2,600 at GC.

The 61 has balanced 1/4" TRS outputs, which are exactly the same output level and etc as XLR (+4dBu) :)

So...you're not loosing anything. Simply use a different cable :)

to be honest, i think the 62 is gonna kick the 68's ass. lol

May down the line but gonna keep the 57 for a minute!

The only reason why I.might buy the 62is because of the complete control that it has,over sl and I realy want that all in one solution but if I still had my 57 I would definitely kept it around

62 is sick

just found out the price on the 61 will be around $1300 and the 62 will be 2100 for the z trip one.
i going to buy the z trip one and get it signed.

Always seen a mixer with no XLR outputs as just cheap wannabes. Don't think I'll be changing my mind just because Rane put it on the Sixty-One. That's what stopped me from getting a 56 when I 1st started.

Now as to the Sixty-Two, gotta to have it... now it's all about getting the deal on it. Going for $1,500 cash, but almost sure I could pull $1,600 if it's $1,999. Lucky for me I'm in the market for CDJs and a new coffin (should make it fairly easy to talk my way into a deal). Fingers crossed. If not, guess I'll have to past on it. Anything over 1600 is just a little too crazy and most will only be paying that to say they have it. We all know the 57sl is still a great mixer. Already called two stores and both said they wouldn't have pricing for it till monday. One even called Rane (don't know how agiprodj already has a price)

Definitely getting a Sixty-Two. I'm a long time employee at GC so I know I'll get a good price on it, glad I don't have to spend the $2k. If anyone wants a killer deal let me know, I've got you covered.

I played on it all day today...and def getting the 62...it's a 1/2 inch wider than the 61 so it SHOULD still fit in 10 inch mixer cases without the Velcro inserts...the 61 is no slouch either the only thing REALLY missing from the it is the midi buttons and internal effects. If you use the dicers and maybe a vfx1 to controll the internal serato effects your good to go. The 61 has a vastly superior sound card and lots more headroom than the 57. Plus it has 20 channels of audio...you can route the sp6 or bridge to the USB insert and it has it's own volume control with a filter! (also a filter on line 1 and 2)

Also on both mixers, the software effects can routed to the flex fx via the USB insert

Honestly... I'd let the dust settle until I purchased the 62... and it's really the 62 or the 57. The 61 doesn't really do it for me:

-61 over 57 for the sound quality - (but really, is anyone going to notice in the club? i'm not going on tour anytime soon, and the 57 sounds amazing to me and my usages)
-61 over 57 for on board filter - (while the 57 filter is kinda crappy and hard to use... that in itself doesn't ustify my purchase)

-57 over 61 - XLR outs, b1-b6, etc.

If I can find a 62 at some point for around $1500 I MIGHT get it... until then, it's all about the 57!

Question GUYS - im a NS7/itch user but im super excited about the SIXTY-TWO - What are your picks, BESIDES 1200's to be paired up with the SIXTY-TWO!

Sucks because I got the rane 68 :( I only got it because it has the dual USB.
So far when i've dj'd with it we only use two channels 1&4 . We also have to assign the SP6 to either channel 2 or 3. With the TTM57 you dont have to assign the SP6. Hope thats the case with the 62

I still think it's way over priced in my opinion i think $1500 is more reasonable but it is what it is. Got to pay off for all the R&D right?

Pioneer CDJ 850k or if you want to spend a little more cash CDJ 900 are cool. CDJ 2000s are dope if you're not using Serato, but way over kill if you're planning on always using Serato. The 850Ks are almost like turntables, but better haha.

I was hoping Numark put out a V7 type of table for use with SSL - but I think i might just keep it 100 - and find some used 1200's or TTX's

Yeah I love my TTX1s and my 1200s, but cost of ownership for turntables is just dumb (business wise) don't get me wrong tho I understand it's hard to let go of the past (don't ever think I'll get rid of my tables).

the cdj 800 an cdj1000 are still great options an are currently the most popular. most djs have not upgraded yet including me, just doesn't seem worth it "YET".

Never really liked the 800, but the 1000mk3s are nice if you can keep the platter from jamming up (not sure if that wont be a problem with the newer models, but hoping not). Guessing if I had a set of cdjs in stock I wouldn't upgrade unless I wasn't using Serato.

62 all the way for me. I can't wait!

I'm getting it but not sure how long I'll have to wait for it.
I have to save some $$$

Im gettin the 62 for sure. I have a 57 and just got a 68 2 months ago and I just love the 2 channel feel better but wanted effects on the panel without having to switch to group 5 and having seperate volume control on sp6.And the filter nob I like to. It's basically exactly what I wanted a mix between the two.I will be selling the 57 and 68!!

$2 grand is too much, keeping my 57 and dicers for now

im on the fence about the 62. the 61 is definitely not a go. i'm also thinking if i'm dropping 2k i might as well step up to the 68.

62 all the way...

I'm debating...already have the 68, but I may just keep the 68 for home use while use the 62 for mobile gigs...

62 : 1999$
DJM-T1 : 999$
something tells me that traktor is gonna win some more users ...

everytime i see that pricetag, my stomach turns

Lol I wonder if can get accustom to traktor you are right for 999 it look sweet right now and ypuare getting pioneer quality

I'm getting it. My boy up at GC is hooking me up. 62

The DDJ-T1 and S1 feel cheap. I would never buy one of those and I can a really good price with my discount at GC. I've used Rane mixers for years and never had issues, I'll always stay loyal to them because they've never let me down.

Ive been reading and studying the 61 or 62-Z and they looked good, but I will stay using my 57SL which i have never had issue before !!!!! Eventually if i switch mixer I rather get the 68

Does anyone know if they'll develop a update for the 57 to have MIDI capabilities ? Anyone????

to be a little more clear on the 61 having no controls and built in effects like the 57...
it's cheaper than the 57 so the extra money can go towards a midi controller and you can use the USB insert button to route the DJ FX in Scratch Live to the mixer Post fader instead of pre fader... so you have 6 stackable effects at a time (with a lot more effects to choose from over all) as opposed to 2 effects that aren't as easy to stack) plus the 61 is USB 2 as opposed to USB 1.
the 61 has a Mic/Line input, the 57 has only a mic input. The 61 has a dedicated channel (USB Aux) for the SP-6 with a Flex FX button to route it to the effects section and the 57 doesn't. The 61 has a dedicated hi pass/low pass filter knob on each program channel.
The 61 is very powerful and in a lot of cases, going to be a more clear choice for a lot of people.


why not?


why is the 61 a definite no go?

61 seems basic compared to 62 honestly, 61 is like 56 with sl box built in.... 62 is like 57 with added usb 2.0 plus extra usb and added features, my moneys on the 62 and seeing ztrip bang on those cue buttons with no issues is a huge selling point.

i got the 57 because it had full control over ssl (well as much as you could control at the time). the 61 has even less control than the 57. if i want a mixer to replace a 57 it has to have at least the same feature set and more.

imo the 61 is a step back from the 57 "making it not a go". so if i want a new mixer i have to look at the 62 or 68.

gotta agree, they upgraded the soundcard but downgraded the features from the 57 to the 61

one step forward and 2 back, the 61 should have had some buttons on it to control ssl, have no internal effects so it could just use the software effects save on cost, but i have to say its like they intentionally gimped it to get you to buy the 62,

Kind of lucky here, I was just about to purchase a 57, so I'm pretty happy that I will wait a few more weeks and get a 62. After waiting many years for a Rane mixer, I will be stoked. Usually, I buy something a a new one comes out....not this time!

That DJM-T1 does look great! I've heard some good things about it. Most of the people I know who have played with it say it's better then the 57sl, and that traktor is dope, but for me, don't care to learn another software. I will tell you this, if pioneer could make a mixer with Serato in it I would never look at a Rane mixer again.

the DJM-T1 looks pretty dope. look it even has XLR outputs. serato needs to have a one night stand with pioneer and make a baby.

them support payments would be a real bitch though lol

prolly should get a dna test b4 makin any payments... hmmm. wonder if Maury would b interested in this one. lol

As Nyce already put it... the 61 is a step back for 57 users
No XLR, no serato control, etc.
Maybe 56 owners will be interested... but for the price tag, you can even find a 56s for $4-500 now... not worth the extra dough (1000) for a few bells and whistles on the 61

Honestly, I wouldn't have bothered releasing the 61. The sales will be substantially lower than the 62... there is an overload of 2 channel mixers out there... and if someone wants a high quality mixer without dvs control... there are several options that don't cost 1500 (or whatever the 61 is priced at). There is nothing wrong with the 56s, for instance.

sticking with the 57sl until the 62 goes down in price... realistically will be sticking with the 57 for the next 8 months. there's nothing wrong with it and it's a dope mixer that fits my needs and price point

my 2c

Personally im gonna grab the 62, in fact i have already rang the shop and got dibs on the first 1
Ive had my 57 since they first got released and this thing is bullet proof, i've traveled all over Australia with it and used it for every club gig since i bought it at least twice a week if not 4 time so i have faith in this product even without seeing it.
The fact is we all sit here bitching and trying to justify the cost when we all know how much cash we have made from the 57 and serato in general.
I no in my situation ive made back the money i spent on my 57 1000 times over, as a full time club dj and VSL user its an essential part of my set up and there is no way i could put a price on it, i guess some of us value different things, myself i value my performance and my reputation as a professional, flexibility that comes with using the best products is priceless.

I'm keeping my 57 for a long long time, possibly getting a 2nd one when everybody starts selling them on ebay.

Really considering getting the DJM-t1 now that it's $999! Plus with traktor 2.5 coming out with the traktor F1 I'm thinking a bright future for native instruments. Plus I had the 68 and hated the stiffness of the buttons and these are even harder.

they did.

it's called the s1. with itch.

Does the 62 come with those lips to screw on the side so i can put rest the mixer between my turntable cases??

These brakets will fit the Sixty-Two > www.rane.com < the description is for the 68, but they'll mount to the side of the Sixty-Two chassis the same way.

PLEASE NOTE: the dimensions listed for the brackets is for the 68. The ears 14 and 19 will not make your Sixty-Two 14" or 19" rack size, as the Sixty-Two is not as wide as the 68.

Sixty-Two dimensions: 14.25" H x 10.5"W x 4"D

Sixty-Eight dimensions: 14.3"H x 12"W x 4"D

BUT, they'll work perfect as a battle bridge :)

We'll be updating the 62 page with more details and measurements.

Damn just saw a 57 go for $735!! Looks like the the 57s will be getting dropped on the ebays.

Definitely not. The 62 buttons are a lot better than those on the 68.

I dont wanna say no and i dont wanna say yes but for now, ima say no. I love my 57 and I love all my features on it. That 62 has ALOT and i aint ready for all those buttons. lol Ima stick to my 57

i understand tha big deal about the new 62 is that you can "share" the mixer with 2 dj's... but whats the point of spendin 2g's and only on dj can use the headphones at a time.... FAIL!!

There are two headphone sockets.

yea.. but one signal... dj A and listen to his own comp.. while dj B is playing

Unless this dude is giving out wrong info...Watchwww.youtube.com

Edit*

That doesn't make sense on the 61/62 anyway. It's two channels. One channel is playing, the other channel can be mixed in next. But this other channel is only one channel.

Now on the 68 - that's a different story.

Anyway, I don'T find it comfortable if two djs try to do things one one mixer at the same time.

so you really believe this mixer was designed for 2 djs to spin together all nite ? Come on dude, stop it, just stop it....lol

This mixer was designed for 2 djs to share the mixer as they seamlessly switch from laptop # 1to laptop # 2 . While 2 headphone may be used, only 1 dj needs to hear his track in this process of switching laptops. I refuse to believe you did not no this.

:D

haha, that's funny!

not to be selfish but if i,m gonna step up to the plate an drop that kind of cash on a mixer i,m sorry man but i,m gonna be the only one beating up on it so i think they design that feature for a more commercial use. for clubs that use more than one dj,s at a time etc.

There are not two separate headphone controls BUT there is no need for it on a two channel mixer as there are only two sources.
If dj A is playing a track dj B can monitor what is coming from his laptop and what is playing on the other computer with the cue/master knob via the headphone output.
When dj B mixes in his track dj A can then use the cue to cue the next track he/she is wanting to bring into the mix.
Since there are two headphone jacks both djs can keep their headphones on and cue as needed.
If this was a four channel mixer then having two dedicated headphone outs would be cool.
Not needed with a two channel mixer.

Also worth mentioning when sharing the mixer between two djs either dj can also cue what is coming in on the 3rd Aux channel (SP6, Bridge).

Also to add... the 2 Gs for this mixer have a lot to do with the 40 channels of audio able to stream from the mixer.
High end dual 12in/8out soundcards, midi controller, and high end battle mixer all in one.
Your not going to find that for under 2 Gs anywhere.

....with quality like Rane

True that ^^^ :)

you forgot built in effects and Rane support.

I could not pull myself away from the mixer...cutting was crisp, drumming with cue point buttons was on point, the change over EXTREMELY easy, filters sounded nice, and just the overall feel of all the knobs was perfect for my taste. My hardest decision is which mixer to get!

Both mixers have there place...

62 on deck!!!! Keep the 57 for back up and finally sell the SL box

I like the 62's layout and would like to get one, however the following issues:
1) yes it's a little pricey $2000 - I personally bought (2) 68's for $2300 each and saw an open box for $1899. A local dealer sells 68's for $2000 cash - no tax.. 62 or 68.. NO BRAINER!!

2) One joystick on top panel??? IMO one of the coolest controls on the 57sl.. Wish the 68 had them...

3) No rack ears like the 61 or 57... Gotta buy some $89 rack ears... WACK!!
(yes some people do still like to actually bolt their mixers in so they don't flop around in your case..)

I can only hope that the 62 will have an actual street price of around $1500 or they won't sell many...
Probably will still buy it but most people that own a 57 probably won't rush right out and drop $2000 on a mixer that is only 2 channels when a 68 can be had for the same price or 3-400 more..

no joystick on 62
no cue points and no xlr on 61

why?

The $2000 price tag is right in line with our current models. The 62 is pretty much the same inner workings as the Sixty Eight other than having two less USB channels and one audio channel.. hence the $400 drop in price.

We didn't add a joystick because most of the controls are already on the mixer. Unlike the 57 where most controls are hidden within various groups. The Sixty Eight and 62 are streamlined for easy access. Is there something you currently control with the J knobs you think you won't be able to control on the 62?

Rack ears will be available for the 62 when its released. Yes.. at an additional cost as not everyone wants them.

This is the best two channel battle mixer on the market. I can pretty much guarantee as soon as you get a chance to use one the $2000 price tag isn't going to be an issue.
We're very confident that every current 57 user is going to want/need this mixer:)

So when are they shipping?

but 61 no booth output? is possible to use session out as booth?

i have a 56 with sl3 for back up mixer and a 57. The 57 still going strong . Unless I get a crack head deal on a new 62 im going to keep what I got now.

Yes. That is what the aux out if for:)

It wasn't easy for us to pull him away either... Ace is a lot stronger than he looks.
=)

hahahaa....

I used them as transformer switches...

So other than the price it's probably my biggest issue with it because the 61 has them and from what I can tell that's all they were put there for. It just feels like I'd be losing a feature that I actually use if I were to get a 62. So by upgrading I'm actually downgrading in a sense. Just my 2 pennies...

The color scheme takes some getting used to as well. Kinda reminds me of the Mojo series.

Current users of 57's will ALL "want" the 62 but probably won't be in the "gotta have it" mode for quite a while...IMO Keep in mind you said "this is the best TWO channel mixer on the market..." For the money it's not that much more for a FOUR channel 68.

It is also the "Most expensive two channel mixer available" and that fact isn't a marketing slogan that will be used in the advertisement for this product..

Zach,
You guys at Rane Support are great but the 62 is easily the most expensive two channel mixer on the market... Not that the 57 wasn't one of the most expensive two channel mixers previously. But at 2+ grand, for two channels, woa!!

That being said I will probably buy one anyway even though I have two 68's already and am a Rane fiend... ;-)

You aren't gonna get a Lamborghini Reventon at a Ford Pinto price... does that mean Rane or anyone else shouldn't grow, improve and push the envelope of technology?

i will not get the mixer until i see proof that ssl and that mixer will work with ME.

I've got several orders in already for the 62, including one for myself. If anyone else wants one message me for details. I'm a long time GC employee, I can get you a great price on it.

If this is something you use in your performance then , ya, I feel ya.
No transform switches on the 62.


$400 more for one more channel. That is about the only difference between the 62 and the Sixty Eight. As I said.. the 62 falls right in line with the price of our current models.
If you want a powerful four channel mixer then the Sixty Eight is it.
If you want a powerful two channel turntablist style mixer (with an Aux USB input) then the 62 is it:)

The Pioneer T1 WAS the most expensive two channel mixer ($1999) before they dropped the price the day the 62 came out realizing they were gonna be stuck with a bunch of them.
The 62 destroys the T1 in terms of features and is well worth every penny.

I haven't heard anything about if it can you do video off/with two laptops?

call a spade a spade

if dj's could manage to spend the dough on a 57 then $400-$500 more bucks for a 62 isnt too much too ask. i'm pretty sure most of us have an sl1 laying around somewhere collecting dust that could be sold and easily cushion the cost of the 62.

Hey Zach,

Since there is no 62 forum yet, I'm gonna post my queston here

Do you think that we are gonna be able to map everything on the mixer like the ttm 57 ? For example, If i dont use the loop section or the sampler section can I assign them to something else in Serato ?

It would be nice specially for mixing video

I'll take that 62 over a little 69 any day! LOL.............. you'll get it later..

I do believe the 62 is FULLY MIDI mappable.........

yeah but I met internely integrate like the 57

The 62 has the capability to be mapped to anything in any program but currently, when using SSL, all the controls are dedicated and can't be changed to control other things in the software.
This is something I believe will change in the future but Serato has to make some changes to their software in order to make this work. If users want it I'm sure it will happen.

We want it.

Okay, now ball is in their court.

Me too.
I want to map VSL stuff on it.

Yes, please change it, particularly for the video integration

thanks

I'm with you all:)

" when using SSL, all the controls are dedicated and can't be changed to control other things in the software."
So all the time the argument about the mixer not detecting analog sources bomb is that rarely anyone uses the mixer without sl... and now when someone uses SL he can't map MIDI/reconfigure the mapping? ;-)
i hope that changes in the future.

The mixer has no problem doing this. Its the software that needs to allow it.

This limitation currently takes away a lot of the power from this otherwise dope hardware/software combination. :(

Will this be changed in the future or not?

Anyone know a rough date for a UK release? Late Feb?

It needs to be available to map to anything, unhooking the original mapping....

For example the sample player is all very good but when using the bridge why would i need it, therefore the sample player buttons and assign could be remapped to control the bridge sync to deck a and b buttons and the loop rolls on individual buttons....

Must happen and soon!!

Cheers
D

Is February..when will be release???...I saved some money for buy it!!

It will be released at the end of Feb. - beginning of March.

Someone started a threat about it

serato.com

the wait is on...

Yep... I sure did.
I want to be able to customize the mapping on my future 62.

wait a min.... the end the february is the 29th and the beginning of march is the 1st.... is there a day in-between that nobody told me about ;)

Actually.. usually February has 28 days. Since this year is a bit different we know what day it should be released on ;-)

HaHaHa...
They'll ship them on February 30

For those who pre-ordered RANE 61/62, where did you order from? get any deals?

I would bet they'll do it for sure, seeing they did it for the 68...

I ordered mine and it is going to ship Feb 9th :)

...I'm studying the two mixer...in 61, Usb insert FX in is really good ... if price will be super different will be hard choice..."Midi button or not midi buttons?"..this is the question :-D

It's always hard to they messed up, but the fact that the INTernal FX and Flex FX can no longer be assigned independently of one another is a mistake in my opinion.

On the 57sl the Flex FX could be on right deck and INTernal FX on the left deck and vice versa of course. This is now no longer possible with the 62 .

I only wanted a 24 bit version of the 57sl with a few improvements, but I wanted/needed the old FX implementation.

Are you sure, I think you might be wrong about this one?
It can be done on the 68, so Im guessing you can still do it on the 62 too?

Doubt that, but good luck

Here is a video I put together for the Rane 62z Demo featuring Dj Vajra.
Watchwww.youtube.com

If your wanting post fader software effects then yes.
The remedy is to use the echo (for example) on the 62 and use your phaser, flanger, etc pre fader (ie don't use the USB insert).
Also to add.. if your wanting to stack say a delay and reverb (which are both better when used post fader) you can chain them in the software.
There are still ways to do what your needing to do with the 62.

Nope, it appears there isn't a way to still do what I want/need with the 62.

At the moment I am using a Kaoss PAD 3 and INTernal echoes on opposite channels of one another both POST FADER on the 57sl. This is no longer possible with the 62. I think we both agree!?

or

Is there "still ways to do what "I'm" needing to do with the 62." ? or am I missing something?

Please explain in detail the pre fader option (w/ phaser, flanger) you talked of! Do you mean pre fader on external FX (Flex FX)? This confused me and I am interested to know specifically what you are meaning, even if it doesn't solve my dilemma.

Yep I am 100% sure this is possible with the 57sl. I am not sure if it is possible when having it configured as Rane suggest, but when using the FX return coming back in on the "Aux In" instead of "Flex FX Return" this is possible.

I've done 2 years worth of gigs with this setup and it always works.

The difference is Rane's Flex FX method acts as a bus (routing the original signal), but while using the "Aux In" for the the Flex FX return, it creates an Aux send and keeps the original signal to the master outs and has the return as an FX level. It's better for keeping gains accurate and means I don't have to run the KP3 (it's fault not Ranes) into the red to get a necessary level back in the return.

Unless I am misunderstanding you, this is completely possible and really easy.The FlexFX bus is post fader. Use the external insert send/receive to put the Kaoss pad into the FlexFX bus chain. You can still stack internal effects and USB effects on top of that if you wish.

sooo.......anyone heard any news as to if the mixers will be released end of week or first of next week?

I get why your sending the sending the out of your Kaos pad back into the Aux input... the Kaos pad has a crappy output level. Running it back into the Aux gives you a level on the return. Smart actually.. I never thought to do that:)
If you want to apply either the KP3 effects or the on board effects simply press the Flex FX button for whatever channel your wanting to apply the effect to.

This is still possible with the 62. I just did it:)

The only effects your really needing to be post fader are things with a tail such as a delay or reverb.
All other effects can be prefader.

So... I would suggest using your KP3 and on board 62 effects for things like delay and reverb.

Use pre fader software effects for everything else.. phaser, flanger, reverser etc.

I would suggest using a separate midi controller to control the pre fader software effects.
You will need to make sure to uncheck the option in the DJ FX section of the Plugins tab for 'enable DJ FX send'.

Once done you can stack internal, on board, and external effects.

Yeah everyone is a little, but that's ok. I will try and make it clearer. Please read carefully.

This still doesn't convince it's possible to do what I need/want to do.

I need both FX post fader and I KNOW the Flex FX is post fader. BUT

The things is..... I use both FX at the same time and on independent channels. I DON'T want or need them to be chained. I was using them independent of one another BOTH post fader with the 57sl.

The internal FX were post fader and engaged using the page buttons while the KP3 was post fader but engaged using the Flex FX. In reality the 57sl has two seperate FX sends. This means two FX can be engaged seperate/indepenent of one another, BOTH post fader BUT on opposing channels or on the same channel or on both channels. My needs are to have them both engaged post fader on opposing channels.

It appears on the 62 there is only one FX send which (YES) can engage multiple FX but they will always be chained in sequence.

Just to (try) and be 100% .....I was able to have two FX (internal delays and KP3) both enganged at the same time, BOTH post fader but could be engaged seperate of one another on opposing channels.

I could go into detail about the way I use it and with what FX , but rest assured for my method I know I was able to achieve the above with the 57sl, and I need it to work this way.

Is the above possible on the 62? It appears not but I want to be 100% sure.

I don't think this is possible.

The only way to add an effect to a PGM postfader is by using the FlexFX button. This sends the signal from the PGM to the Effects chain. There is only one effect chain which is shared by all PGMs (and AUX and MIC btw).

The only other option is to use Scratch Live effects (which you can assign per Deck (so no AUX and MIC)), but it is prefader and not postfader.

It's the same on the 68 BTW.

(exception is the lo/hi pass filter which is available for PGMs and the AUX)

Cheers nik39!

So it's as I thought!

This is a little disappointing!

It's difficult to explain how I use my setup and would probably need a video. I've come up with workarounds but they are a step back.

I really hope that Serato can work out a software workaround. Engage the internal FX in the 62 seperate of the FLEX FX send! Even on the 61. You guys are saying the interanl FX are now post Fader in the 61 yeah? Is that correct?

Could you guys PLEASE make it possible to have internal FX seperate of the FLEX FX! With all those buttons and implementable software options possible these days it's gotta be possible!

It would make the mixers extra DOPE! They're already dope and I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking them, but I really wished the 62, and 61, both had the same FX implementation as the 57sl.

I've owned a Sl1, SL3 and 57sl. The 57sl is all I own/use now. However, the SL3 had excellent sound (deep and clear 24bit - the conversion quality is great) and it's this "sound" which is the main, closer to only reason I'd update to a 61 or 62. Rane and Serato handle the sound side of things really well, no question, but NOT having the same FX routing possible on either the 61 or 62 will stop me updating.

An FX send is dope but two is the money!

Correct, they are on the 68, you have to switch a toggle in the SSL hardware setup, that's it.
Even though I haven't touched the 61/62 yet, they seem to share this same setup for SSL software as the 68.

Yes.. this is possible by checking the 'enable mixer send' in the DJ FX section of SSL and turning on the USB insert on the 61 or 62.

The main difference between the 57 and 62, in regards to effects, is that the 57 has two effect banks. The 62 only has one.
I understand what your wanting but its just not possible.
I think we can all agree the FX engine on the 57 was not a simple design and takes some work to understand and use.
One of the main goals of the 62 was to simplify things.
I didn't design the mixer so I'm not entirely sure of the routing within it but just by looking at the mixer I can't see how we could separate the on board effects processor from the Flex FX bus, or how to send the audio from the channels to the on board effects engine and then turn on and off the effects for either channel.

I get that you've gotten used to a certain work flow but I'm confident you can still get the sounds/effects your needing by using a combination of pre fader software DJ FX, on board effects, and effects coming from your KP3.

tariq, which effects where you using on the 57 which needs to be post fader? Just curious.

I can only think of the Echo.. but this one is available as post already.

I'm guessing he's using something like reverb on one channel, echo on the other ?

Does the 57 have a reverb.?

No :)

I only use Echo on the internal FX but I use it a LOT! It's only one but it's integral.

Kaoss Pad 3 has some beat rolling FX with delays as part of the FX. I use it on beat driven stuff while scratching on the other channel using the Rane internal FX.

That's just one example. I use the KP3 FX intermitendly but the echoes on the scratches stay turned on. I can't have those echoes over the beats and I don't want the beat rolling FX from KP3 over the scratch channel.

Cheers!

Where there's a will there is always a way, yeah!?

I really like the look of the 61. No XLR's is a bit of a bummer . . . . I know, I know they're still balanced out, but I do a lot of shows and XLR's makes things easier. The less cables I have to carry the happier. The sound guys like you more if you just need XLR's. This helps! \(*~*)/ - it is what it is!

One question! Will the 61 have access to a similar delay that was in the 57sl? cause the echo currently in Serato isn't the best IMHO.

Oh, my mistake. I naturally assumed it had. Echo & Reverb are the 2 fx I use the most on the 68. Good to see they're on the 62 as well :D


I guess a workaournd could be to route one channel of the 62 into the KP3,
then back to the aux on the mixer.

Or maybe use the session in/out in some way? (not so familiar with that one yet)
Not so flexible (pun intended) as your current setup, but still doable?

I think the session output is the same as the Master out isn't it?

Any FX applied on the Session output and put back in would cause a loop I think.

I keep my 57 in a Road Ready case. Inside the case, I have 1.5ft XLRs permanently hooked into the main outs. This way, it puts less stress on the XLRs on the mixer since I don't even tough those plugs.

On the Sixty-One, it would be the same concept....just use a male TRS to male XLR cable...

Not a problem for me, though....I'm geting the Sixty-Two ;-P

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

Rane Sixty-One and Sixty-Two DJ mixers shipping NOW.

get out of town

:( but I live here.

lol ;)

Hell yeah!!!

+10000000 ;)

Hell Yeah

Just wish the 62Z was also shipping

yay.

i'd be more excited if i ordered one.

Randy.... Face it you have commitment issues. There is still time, if you're ready.

listen to your heart....lol
NH NM

Eventually I think I will get a 61. For the moment the 57sl will more than do the job. I always had a soft spot for my old TTM56 and the 61 is very similar. I really like the sample player having it's own channel.

M I the only one that has one right now??? On the forms i haven't seen anybody post anybody post anything

yep i think so bro! (that post on the forums)
Im getting mine friday

Same here.

unboxing of rane 62
Watchwww.youtube.com

I'm ordering mine ASAP - just picked up a set of barley used MK5's for 5 bills out here in Okinawa - kepping my NS7 - but i cant resist - THAT MIXER make me tingly inside!! lol