Serato Software Feature Suggestions

What features would you like to see in Serato software?

Sync Folders to Crates with "update library" option

Dj Ricky Redz 4:43 PM - 10 January, 2014
For those dis that do not use iTunes and has all their music organised in folders.

this would be a great feature to add as you can update a folder with some tracks and just click "update library" and new tracks would be added.

similar to what itch-sync or serato-sync does.
Bornd Fono 3:41 AM - 13 January, 2014
+1
Bornd Fono 3:45 AM - 13 January, 2014
Or what even would be better is a function where I can select a folder and declare it as the root folder of my music library. Then the programm creates my crates based on this folder... for every sub-folder... there is a sub-crate created and all the music found in a folder is automaticly added to the related crate. This would be a HUGE time saver!! and I think it's possible to program this as a third party program not running as a function in the main program. So no worrys about the stabilty issue of the main program needed!
Dub-Se7en 3:29 PM - 13 January, 2014
+1 for both ideas
Dj Ricky Redz 9:51 PM - 15 January, 2014
+1

Quote:
Or what even would be better is a function where I can select a folder and declare it as the root folder of my music library. Then the programm creates my crates based on this folder... for every sub-folder... there is a sub-crate created and all the music found in a folder is automaticly added to the related crate. This would be a HUGE time saver!! and I think it's possible to program this as a third party program not running as a function in the main program. So no worrys about the stabilty issue of the main program needed!



I think this should be implemented in offline mode.

Hope they're seeing this!
Willrock 11:39 AM - 26 February, 2014
+1
DJCY 1:36 AM - 28 February, 2014
+1
Fl!ped 6:00 PM - 1 March, 2014
yeah, i don't want to pay for other products that offer better crate functionality, it's basic we get it in our SW
+100
Bornd Fono 3:27 PM - 2 March, 2014
With "third party program" I didn't mean that I it should cost money... the fact is that every single change in the main program has to be made VERY carfully and be tested a lot to assure stability (which is very importand for the guys at serato - they really got a good reputation when it comes to this!). But a function which builds your crates and saves them into the specific format serato created doesn't need to be part of the main program I think... so it should be possible to implement this without risking stabilty what really should be a time saver for the programmers!
VictorMike 5:35 PM - 2 March, 2014
1+
DJ Trice 2:57 PM - 3 March, 2014
+1000
DJ Trice 2:57 PM - 3 March, 2014
I will add that this request exist since SSL...
Jensen Määäm 10:17 PM - 6 March, 2014
+1
DJ FANDOS 1:15 AM - 7 March, 2014
100+
ojgbagg27 5:08 AM - 9 March, 2014
+100
DjZezarFlow 8:05 AM - 9 March, 2014
+10000
Paco71 11:55 PM - 9 March, 2014
+1000000
Dj Ricky Redz 7:50 PM - 11 March, 2014
keep them coming till they implement it!!!
DjZezarFlow 3:26 AM - 12 March, 2014
938MyDJ 6:38 PM - 12 March, 2014
+1
Tobi P 5:11 PM - 13 March, 2014
+1
Propper 10:24 PM - 15 March, 2014
+1

I've been using other DJ-Software (namely VDJ) for years now and recently bought a new controller with Serato support. The database was the first thing that really made me think "wtf is this?", as I have my music sorted in many different (sub-)folders on my HDD.
I rebuilt my folder structure inside Serato DJ manually, which is okay because it's a one-time-work, but it really should automatically update the crates with the tracks inside the folders they refer to. It would be such a HUUUGEE time saver if you don't have to drag-and-drop every single folder to the correspondent crate every time you download new music.
djsaxsax 10:59 PM - 16 March, 2014
+1.000.000
Johnny.S 6:42 AM - 19 March, 2014
Wow I Hate ITUNES and this is how I have my music organized!

I am down if you guys are Down

1+ on feature serato =)
Raysemup 11:49 PM - 12 April, 2014
!! Amen .. Why hasn't this been done already .. holy smokes! This is a major issue having to re drop in music files every time I get new music.
FatCash 1:03 PM - 11 May, 2014
+1
Felipereis50 6:49 PM - 11 May, 2014
+1
Logan D 11:29 PM - 11 May, 2014
This would be awesome, we've been discussing how best it could work. Not ETA for you I'm afraid but it's good to see how popular a request this is.
DJCY 3:26 AM - 12 May, 2014
Yes, this should be at the top of next update, I hate having to delete and redrag my crates, should have SDJ automatically scan crates for new tracks as option in settings
Deejae Smooth 3:17 PM - 12 May, 2014
Library management should definitely be addressed. I like the idea of specifying a "root" folder and the software just adds anything new in that folder; I personally don't want a crate for each folder on the hard drive.

When I add new videos each week, I have to put them in a folder for that week so that I can find them when I hit the files button in the software. I wouldn't have to do this if I could just specify one "root" folder on the external hard drive that contains my videos and have Serato Dj check that folder each time it loads to see if any new files were added.

Hard to believe something so simple wasn't added a long time ago.
Dj matty k 12:22 AM - 18 May, 2014
+ 1
papagp 12:24 PM - 18 May, 2014
+1
Dj MacMillz 8:01 PM - 18 May, 2014
Quote:
Yes, this should be at the top of next update, I hate having to delete and redrag my crates, should have SDJ automatically scan crates for new tracks as option in settings



You don't have to delete and re-drag, just drag the folder onto the crate with the same name, it will only add the new files, and won't duplicate the files already added.
H2H 10:02 AM - 19 May, 2014
+1
DJCY 12:44 AM - 2 June, 2014
+1

also support for large libraries would be nice when this is added.
Davideon 3:31 PM - 2 June, 2014
+1
Davideon 3:56 PM - 2 June, 2014
Quote:
Or what even would be better is a function where I can select a folder and declare it as the root folder of my music library. Then the programm creates my crates based on this folder... for every sub-folder... there is a sub-crate created and all the music found in a folder is automaticly added to the related crate. This would be a HUGE time saver!! and I think it's possible to program this as a third party program not running as a function in the main program. So no worrys about the stabilty issue of the main program needed!


Definitely agree with this
DJ Elvis Lee 1:51 AM - 8 June, 2014
Quote:
Or what even would be better is a function where I can select a folder and declare it as the root folder of my music library. Then the programm creates my crates based on this folder... for every sub-folder... there is a sub-crate created and all the music found in a folder is automaticly added to the related crate. This would be a HUGE time saver!! and I think it's possible to program this as a third party program not running as a function in the main program. So no worrys about the stabilty issue of the main program needed!



+10000
whitenite 9:17 AM - 10 June, 2014
+1000000000000000

This is my BIGGEST gripe with Serato over the past few years.

"Feeding" my Serato with new music is pure agony. Takes AGES. Drag and drop each folder to a new crate etc... I should be able to copy tunes to the root folders on my drive and then click auto update in Serato and have it search for any new files added after date X/X/XXXX and add them to corresponding crate

The difficulty comes when one copies a tune to several different crates after that, but like Bornd Fono said why not let each tune in the database have a single "ROOT" folder that corresponds with where that file actually exists on my HDD ? The other crates it exists in are merely a database entry

I'm worried that it's too late to add this feature, as this would mean a massive overhaul....

Say it aint so Serato ;(

The reverse would be great as well - an export/cleanup function. Export ALL my crates, named as they are in Serato, to folders on my hard drive. As above, some tunes will exist in many crates - but Serato could just copy that tune to the FIRST crate/folder it appears in (if it doesnt already have a ROOT folder specified).

Here is my other big gripe: serato.com
Felipereis50 1:37 PM - 12 June, 2014
Quote:
+1000000000000000

This is my BIGGEST gripe with Serato over the past few years.

"Feeding" my Serato with new music is pure agony. Takes AGES. Drag and drop each folder to a new crate etc... I should be able to copy tunes to the root folders on my drive and then click auto update in Serato and have it search for any new files added after date X/X/XXXX and add them to corresponding crate

The difficulty comes when one copies a tune to several different crates after that, but like Bornd Fono said why not let each tune in the database have a single "ROOT" folder that corresponds with where that file actually exists on my HDD ? The other crates it exists in are merely a database entry

I'm worried that it's too late to add this feature, as this would mean a massive overhaul....

Say it aint so Serato ;(

The reverse would be great as well - an export/cleanup function. Export ALL my crates, named as they are in Serato, to folders on my hard drive. As above, some tunes will exist in many crates - but Serato could just copy that tune to the FIRST crate/folder it appears in (if it doesnt already have a ROOT folder specified).

Here is my other big gripe: serato.com
Gmitt 1:34 PM - 15 August, 2014
+1
This has seriously bugged me since i started using Serato. Listen to the users and get on it!
ojgbagg27 10:25 PM - 9 September, 2014
+100000000
I fully stand behind all users of SDJ in regards to having SDJ updates it's library from where ever the music is stored
LJ_WOOLSEY 7:26 AM - 11 September, 2014
This software can sync folders to crates alchimiedj.com i know its another software and you would like it built into SDJ.
But until they do that this will be good for you guys.
JohnGordeff 8:59 AM - 24 September, 2014
Up to yesterday and realizing the only way to update the songs in the crates was to delete them then re-add them, I was baffled at how to do this. Now I realize that this is the only way! I'm a new user to Serato and I have to agree with every idea in here and really urge Serato to implement this in some way. Like Ricky, I am not a Itunes user and keep my music in folders.

Please Serato, help us.
healer 9:44 AM - 19 October, 2014
I, too, had this problem when I came to Serato as a new user. I rummaged the internet until I finally came across a piece of code (could have been on SourceForge) someone had written for Scratch Live or Itch (can't remember which). I copied and modified the code slightly to get it to work for me. What I have now is the ability to replace my entire Serato Library with the folder of my choice, at the click of a button. The crates mimic the folder structure so everything is always where I put it, and when I add new files, I just run the Sync again.

Use at your own risk: www72.zippyshare.com
Make sure to read the ReadMe and make a backup of your library before you start in case anything goes awry.

-healer
DJ Pete Russo 6:24 PM - 21 October, 2014
Quote:
I, too, had this problem when I came to Serato as a new user. I rummaged the internet until I finally came across a piece of code (could have been on SourceForge) someone had written for Scratch Live or Itch (can't remember which). I copied and modified the code slightly to get it to work for me. What I have now is the ability to replace my entire Serato Library with the folder of my choice, at the click of a button. The crates mimic the folder structure so everything is always where I put it, and when I add new files, I just run the Sync again.



Use at your own risk: www72.zippyshare.com

Make sure to read the ReadMe and make a backup of your library before you start in case anything goes awry.



-healer


Hi Healer,

Would this work for both PC and Mac? I'm planning on using this on PC running Windows 7.

I also agree 1000000000% they should make this a part of Serato - it's one of the reasons it took me this long to switch over from other DJing software that automatically does this.
DJ Pete Russo 4:59 PM - 22 October, 2014
Update: the script works - just make sure you follow the ReadMe file.

Searto - Please intergrate this into your next update - its a very simple function that would make our life easier and have a more enjoyable experience transferring from other DJing software!
healer 5:43 AM - 31 October, 2014
Hey Pete,

I'm completely unfamiliar with Mac, so this is Windows only.

Glad it worked for you (and impressed that you could follow my poorly written instructions). ;-)
Heltino 7:33 AM - 31 October, 2014
+1

That is one of the features I´m really missing after the change from Traktor to Serato.
In Traktor it´s simple:
Just add new tracks to the "music folder" (defined in Traktor as source of music) and at the start Traktor checks for changes/new files and add them to the collection.
Analyse is as well triggered then by auto.
CJ DJ 12:25 AM - 8 November, 2014
+1
H2H 1:56 PM - 10 November, 2014
UP.
DJ Remix Detroit 3:06 PM - 10 November, 2014
+1
O Malley 3:09 PM - 11 November, 2014
Quote:
Update: the script works - just make sure you follow the ReadMe file.

Searto - Please intergrate this into your next update - its a very simple function that would make our life easier and have a more enjoyable experience transferring from other DJing software!



Anyone tried this with windows 8 ?

It doesn't work for me :(
O Malley 3:54 PM - 11 November, 2014
well it works now, it creates the library in serato but if I try to open a file it says it can't find the file in C: eventhough the source folder is in D: ...... ??

anyone had this issue or knows a workaround ?
DMT 12:28 PM - 17 November, 2014
Quote:
+1

That is one of the features I´m really missing after the change from Traktor to Serato.
In Traktor it´s simple:
Just add new tracks to the "music folder" (defined in Traktor as source of music) and at the start Traktor checks for changes/new files and add them to the collection.
Analyse is as well triggered then by auto.



+1
Murkster-Dubez 4:23 AM - 24 November, 2014
I currently use Alchimie Zinc but this should be a basic feature within serato, come on guys.
Nacho Ruiz 2:43 PM - 24 November, 2014
+1
DJNRG2K 4:11 AM - 30 November, 2014
+1
molina1 6:13 AM - 30 November, 2014
Definitely would like this in an update in the near future.
Babilonian 1:42 PM - 5 January, 2015
Quote:
I, too, had this problem when I came to Serato as a new user. I rummaged the internet until I finally came across a piece of code (could have been on SourceForge) someone had written for Scratch Live or Itch (can't remember which). I copied and modified the code slightly to get it to work for me. What I have now is the ability to replace my entire Serato Library with the folder of my choice, at the click of a button. The crates mimic the folder structure so everything is always where I put it, and when I add new files, I just run the Sync again.

Use at your own risk: www72.zippyshare.com
Make sure to read the ReadMe and make a backup of your library before you start in case anything goes awry.

-healer


Hey Healer,
I tried using the sync method you mentioned and It's not working.
I am using windows 8
I changed the paths as mentioned, but it's not doing anything to my library..
Questions, does Serato need to be open or closed when running the action ?
Also, I'm fairly new to this (its a hobby, got a DDJ-SR for my Bday 2 yeeks ago) is this action for Serato DJ or the older Serato software Itch?
Thanks for your help if you can get it..
RP
Deejay Willy 5:36 AM - 20 April, 2015
DJ Pete Russo
YOU ARE A TIME SAVOIR
SIMPLY YOU ARE GR8
Thx For The Gr8 Gr8 Info Bro
You Made My Use Serato For The First Time Ever Since Am Djing 23 Years Ago
Once Again THX
Deejay Willy 4:40 PM - 20 April, 2015
hi all
i made what you told us to do but a problem came up
every time i open serato it keep missing the files location
and when i relocate them and serato replaces them i shut serato off and when i open serato again it wont save the files location so i have to relocate them again every time i start serato
any idea what am missing or doing wrong
thx in advance all
LJ_WOOLSEY 4:44 PM - 20 April, 2015
Quote:
hi all
i made what you told us to do but a problem came up
every time i open serato it keep missing the files location
and when i relocate them and serato replaces them i shut serato off and when i open serato again it wont save the files location so i have to relocate them again every time i start serato
any idea what am missing or doing wrong
thx in advance all


What laptop mac or pc? Do you use an external harddrive?
Deejay Willy 4:45 PM - 20 April, 2015
sorry for the wrong post witch meant to healer
was tooo exited looool
HEALER
YOU ARE A TIME SAVOIR
SIMPLY YOU ARE GR8
Thx For The Gr8 Gr8 Info Bro
You Made My Use Serato For The First Time Ever Since Am Djing 23 Years Ago
Once Again THX
musiclee 6:39 PM - 20 April, 2015
i think this 1 feature alone should be added in 1.7.5, along with fixing any bugs from 1.7.4

the alchimiedj program looks pretty cool, but this should be incorporated into SDJ and be automatic, right click a crate, or ALL, and BAM, everything gets added/sync'd
healer 1:32 PM - 29 April, 2015
Quote:
sorry for the wrong post witch meant to healer
was tooo exited looool
HEALER
YOU ARE A TIME SAVOIR
SIMPLY YOU ARE GR8
Thx For The Gr8 Gr8 Info Bro
You Made My Use Serato For The First Time Ever Since Am Djing 23 Years Ago
Once Again THX

No problem, Willy. As I said, I can't really take any credit as I didn't write the code myself...just re-purposed it a little.

I personally haven't tried the script on Windows 8 yet. I just recently moved to Windows 8.1 from Win7 and have been outta the DJ game for a few months. I'll give it a try and see if I pick up any issues.
Babilonian 2:24 PM - 6 June, 2015
Hi Healer,
Did you get the chance to use the action on your Windows 8.1 device yet, any luck?
After waiting for 6 months here for a solution, I figured I'd go and buy Alchemie Zinc software to sync my music. But is seems it only supports Windows XP and Window 7...
So again my last resource is you.... :)
Deejay Willy 9:14 PM - 9 June, 2015
Quote:
Quote:
hi all
i made what you told us to do but a problem came up
every time i open serato it keep missing the files location
and when i relocate them and serato replaces them i shut serato off and when i open serato again it wont save the files location so i have to relocate them again every time i start serato
any idea what am missing or doing wrong
thx in advance all


What laptop mac or pc? Do you use an external harddrive?


its pc and my music in in the laptop internal harddrive
deejdave 1:09 PM - 11 June, 2015
Auto Import.............
serato.com
Not a total fix but something in the meantime.............
musiclee 2:02 PM - 11 June, 2015
let's just put our songs in the actual folders (explorer)
and have SDJ scan upon boot or when we tell it to

can this be so hard to implement?
it's a no brainer and should have been part of SDJ 1.0 Beta
Murkster-Dubez 10:02 PM - 15 June, 2015
Quote:
Hi Healer,
Did you get the chance to use the action on your Windows 8.1 device yet, any luck?
After waiting for 6 months here for a solution, I figured I'd go and buy Alchemie Zinc software to sync my music. But is seems it only supports Windows XP and Window 7...
So again my last resource is you.... :)


Hey i tried the alchemie zinc trial on a surface pro 3 running windows 8.1 and it worked with no issues
ojgbagg27 4:17 AM - 25 June, 2015
I tried it on my computer win8.1 Pro and no problem for me too
vj tech.sys 8:31 PM - 30 June, 2015
why has picking and choosing directories for crates been such an issue in any version of Serato? I don't understand why having Serato DJ create subcrates when you drag a folder over to the left has eluded the programmers for over a decade. not to sound snarky, but with the all of the faults Virtual DJ has, accessing folders the way I have them organized, the number of folders and crates i have, and playing more than two types of video files aren't issues.
Deejay Willy 9:24 PM - 30 June, 2015
yeah but virtual dj doesn't not have faults as you say its a gr8 software to use once you master it
just YouTube echo papa and see how its easy to use software
and it doesn't mean that serato in not good
actually serato is as good as virtual dj but at the end its a personal reference
Deejae Smooth 10:35 PM - 30 June, 2015
There are a LOT of options for personalization in VJ8 that don't exist in Serato DJ.

Just saying..
vj tech.sys 11:03 PM - 30 June, 2015
I used to use VDJ very regularly, and still use it at one of my gigs. The faults are stability issues. i've had VDJ crash on me way more than Serato SL or DJ.
VDJ8 has some cool things going on, and seems a bit more solid than 7, i will give it that.
Deejae Smooth 11:22 PM - 30 June, 2015
how much time have you spent with VDJ8 and on PC or Mac?
Deejay Willy 2:04 PM - 1 July, 2015
i spent nearly 15 years on VDJ since the VDJ 5 release but with VDJ 8 Nearly Since The First Release As An Update
At First VDJ 6 Has crashed with me a couple of times and i figured why
because it was a cracked
so when i bout VDJ it never crashed on me ever since
even that while i mix i use VDJ heavenly by mixing songs and samples and adding effects at the same time
just give it a try
vj tech.sys 11:12 PM - 1 July, 2015
i've played with VDJ8 on both mac and pc. and i will say that i've spent about 10 hours total on both
Deejae Smooth 12:15 AM - 2 July, 2015
I used VDJ on a Mac a couple of years ago and had no problem with the stability of the software but every time I would click into the search box and hit the first letter of a search, you could actually hear a split second stutter on whatever track was playing.

That one problem caused me to go back to Scratch Live/Itch whatever it was at the time by Serato.

I'm looking at VDJ8 because this last Saturday during a gig, Serato 1.7.5 had a midi problem with my DDJ-SX and I had two seconds of dead air and that just doesn't fly under any circumstances.
deej808 7:23 AM - 17 July, 2015
+100 lots and lots of time spend re-syncing crates to matching folders!
gotlunch 6:27 PM - 17 July, 2015
Bump - How Serato has not implemented this already is beyond me.
musiclee 6:37 PM - 17 July, 2015
another one of those must have features for me as well!!!

+ infinity
OllyDowning 7:41 PM - 8 August, 2015
+ ∞

Nice to see Serato are listening to their customers... I don' think. Anything to say about this guys? Gonna guess not.
Deejae Smooth 8:35 PM - 8 August, 2015
I'm checking out the new Rekordbox as part of the early adopter program so we'll see if they have a clue on issues like this..
OllyDowning 8:42 PM - 8 August, 2015
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I'm checking out the new Rekordbox as part of the early adopter program so we'll see if they have a clue on issues like this..

Fantastic - will look forward to a report back! Is this an open program for anyone to join or do you have to be chosen? Wouldn't mind a look myself.
Davideon 8:50 PM - 8 August, 2015
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I'm checking out the new Rekordbox as part of the early adopter program so we'll see if they have a clue on issues like this..

Fantastic - will look forward to a report back! Is this an open program for anyone to join or do you have to be chosen? Wouldn't mind a look myself.



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OllyDowning 9:12 PM - 8 August, 2015
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I'm checking out the new Rekordbox as part of the early adopter program so we'll see if they have a clue on issues like this..

Fantastic - will look forward to a report back! Is this an open program for anyone to join or do you have to be chosen? Wouldn't mind a look myself.



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Thats a shame - thank you for letting me know!
Deejae Smooth 12:38 PM - 10 August, 2015
My summary would be that they're just getting started with it. I'm not even sure it's at Beta stage yet giving all the issues reported. I think it'll be 2016 before a final version might be ready.
grkdre 1:36 AM - 25 August, 2015
Quote:
For those dis that do not use iTunes and has all their music organised in folders.

this would be a great feature to add as you can update a folder with some tracks and just click "update library" and new tracks would be added.

similar to what itch-sync or serato-sync does.



+1!!!!!
grkdre 1:37 AM - 25 August, 2015
Quote:
Or what even would be better is a function where I can select a folder and declare it as the root folder of my music library. Then the programm creates my crates based on this folder... for every sub-folder... there is a sub-crate created and all the music found in a folder is automaticly added to the related crate. This would be a HUGE time saver!! and I think it's possible to program this as a third party program not running as a function in the main program. So no worrys about the stabilty issue of the main program needed!


+1+1+1+1+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
H2H 8:33 AM - 24 September, 2015
Up & Up again !
Plz Serato can you at least tell us if we can expect to see this feature in SDJ or not ?
H2H 12:07 PM - 16 October, 2015
Do we have to wait for ADE 2050 announcement for this feature ?

Before adding a fu$@#g Pulselocker Integration (personally I don't care about that, but perhaps I'm the only one), I think that you should integrate the "basic of basic" feature that your users ask you for a long time...
romie rangel 1:13 PM - 16 October, 2015
+1000, I add new music to my library almost everyday, I'm always trying to find a better way to do it but end up with the same old thing, mostly deleting folders and re-adding them, ROOT folder is a MUST
vj tech.sys 8:18 PM - 16 October, 2015
I've also noticed that the usual Serato people that comment on just about everything else are pretty quiet on this thread... just an observation
DJ Frank Stallone 8:20 PM - 16 October, 2015
+1 Sounds like a simple feature to implement
vj tech.sys 8:28 PM - 16 October, 2015
Quote:
+1 Sounds like a simple feature to implement


right?!
if Virtual DJ, the evil scourge of the DJ industry can do it....
deejdave 9:28 PM - 16 October, 2015
Quote:
I've also noticed that the usual Serato people that comment on just about everything else are pretty quiet on this thread... just an observation

Could be a sign.
H2H 9:32 PM - 17 October, 2015
Been almost two years since this thread started...
What do we have to do to have an answer by serato ???
Ouhouhou Serato... Are you here ?
DJD-Money 5:52 AM - 19 October, 2015
+1
H2H 12:21 PM - 19 October, 2015
Good news Serato is "aware" : serato.com

This request exists since SSL... I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Be welcomed, we got an answer...

To win some time, I will contact another guy : Dear Santa, ...
if that doesn't work with him I give up :o))))
DjBliZz 7:02 AM - 20 October, 2015
+1

Link folder to crate option. Every time SDJ loads the library, it scans for tracks in chosen folder to display in chosen linked crate. Could even just be a Smart Crate rule really. Not every crate needs to be linked to a folder. Once this is implemented, a file rename feature using any ID3 tag information in any order as well as any specific text. This way, you can download new tracks, put them in your different folders, scan them into SDJ library, analyze, tighten up ID3 tags, and your files can all be nice and neat for when exporting crates to an external drive using the Files tab. We really need this folder-crate link feature if we ever want to solve other library maintenance issues. They seem like pretty simple tasks for the offline player to handle.
H2H 9:58 PM - 4 November, 2015
+2
serato.com
serato.com

C'mon Serato !!!
Veks 8:44 AM - 5 November, 2015
+1
Heltino 7:05 PM - 5 November, 2015
+100

had this again yesterday.....
purchased music, the files are structured on my HDD folder based (of course) and I was forced to add some keywords to the comment tags to have it sorted into my smart crates.
sucks. just ONE easy parameter would solve a lot of issues and gives flexibility within the combination.
"located in folder"

example:
added after XYZ + genre = House + located in folder XYZ.....

so you could purchase at different stores, backup the files in a folder structure AND have them sorted by auto in your smart crates.

a dream would be as well to have the option that all files that are sorted into smart crates are analyzed by auto....

that is the dream team. just purchase stuff, save within your folder structure and SDJ will add and analyze them as soon as you start in offline mode.

can´t be rocket sience...
Heltino 7:08 PM - 5 November, 2015
by the way: Traktor does this since "forever". Just tell Traktor where your music folder is and at each start Traktor adds and analyses new files by auto. (including sub folders!)

this "folder whatch" at Traktor is perfect, but Traktor has no smart crates
SDJ has perfect smart crates and forces you to add and search new music all the time as there is no auto update of the library.
deejdave 9:10 PM - 5 November, 2015
I just hope if/when this ever happens we can still use multiple libraries and clones/backups as easily as we can with Serato.

I know many peeps like to post who has this library feature down but anyone happen to know if ANY other software is able to do this? I mean I know VDJ technically can but I am asking more for the performance DJ apps. I use quite a few and none have this capability as far as I know.
H2H 1:30 PM - 6 November, 2015
I think that it's easy to add a third type of crate, to keep "crate" and "smart crate", and add "folder crate".
If you want to manage your music like now, you can.
My vision of the use will be the following :
- Go to setup
- Select "Enable folder crate"
- Choose your root folder
- Select or not "Auto update at opening"
- Select or not "Auto analyse new file"

If "Folder crate" is enabled a third crate button next to "smart crate" is activated and you can click on it to udpate folder crates manually.
So SDJ will create crates and sub-crates like your folders structure.
leecher88 5:13 PM - 6 November, 2015
Come on Serato we all give you our money and what happened so many simple features you dont have..... Please make this feature !!!
Colemang70 9:11 AM - 7 November, 2015
+1,000,000 to both Ideas. My two cents would be in the config file for serato a line(s) of code allow for music directory root location(s) like you can do in your competitors' dj software. the update entire library addition would like making one root smart folder/location which eliminate a dj(s) having load all of these additional third party softwares; also we as djs got to remember the most features more processing on our cpu and ram required just to get the application running. We want slim/stable dj application or we want a bloated hummer application. there will be tradeoffs either way. Its just my few pennies.
janisfreimanis 1:00 PM - 10 November, 2015
+1
nicolascav 5:56 AM - 4 December, 2015
+1 please!
serkan 11:06 AM - 5 December, 2015
Quote:
I think that it's easy to add a third type of crate, to keep "crate" and "smart crate", and add "folder crate".
If you want to manage your music like now, you can.
My vision of the use will be the following :
- Go to setup
- Select "Enable folder crate"
- Choose your root folder
- Select or not "Auto update at opening"
- Select or not "Auto analyse new file"

If "Folder crate" is enabled a third crate button next to "smart crate" is activated and you can click on it to udpate folder crates manually.
So SDJ will create crates and sub-crates like your folders structure.

Make that crate green! :)
I like that idea.
H2H 11:00 PM - 7 December, 2015
I confirm the green color !
But how long we are going to beg Serato for this feature ??? :o((
monkeyfunk 8:24 AM - 8 December, 2015
Adding my plus 1 to this - great idea
PopRoXxX 5:16 PM - 11 December, 2015
+100!
DJ Busy ZA 9:01 AM - 14 December, 2015
+100

This feature is the single reason that will get me to move permanently to SDJ. I cannot spend all that time just trying to locate my new tracks. And seriously it is not rocket science..
sfalta 11:13 AM - 14 December, 2015
+1
MurdoX 8:48 AM - 16 December, 2015
+1
dangate 2:37 PM - 16 December, 2015
Sigh me up. Again, how hard is this Serato. This has been going on for years. Listen to your customers.
vj tech.sys 12:19 AM - 17 December, 2015
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Sigh me up. Again, how hard is this Serato. This has been going on for years. Listen to your customers.


seriously, if Virtual DJ can do it...
dangate 7:34 AM - 17 December, 2015
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Sigh me up. Again, how hard is this Serato. This has been going on for years. Listen to your customers.


seriously, if Virtual DJ can do it...



if some random guy on the internet can do it....
vj tech.sys 10:02 PM - 17 December, 2015
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if some random guy on the internet can do it....


yep...
code.google.com
H2H 10:31 AM - 24 February, 2016
I've re-organized a part of my music last week and naturally I had to do it twice !
One time on the files sytem side and a second time on the serato side...

I couldn't use serato sync java program for that, because a majority of the concerned files were flac files and serato sync ignore this file format.

So, perhaps one day : serato.com
Christopher Garcia 17 11:08 AM - 24 February, 2016
+1
DjZezarFlow 2:34 PM - 24 February, 2016
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if some random guy on the internet can do it....


yep...
code.google.com



Thank you a lot for the info!
vj tech.sys 12:05 AM - 25 February, 2016
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Thank you a lot for the info!


no problem, just sucks that it doesn't work with flac, because i'm starting to switch over to that now for my audio
LJ_WOOLSEY 12:15 AM - 25 February, 2016
denoizer 8:56 AM - 25 February, 2016
+ 1.000.000.............000.000

:)
H2H 9:54 AM - 25 February, 2016
AlchimieDj do the job, but why should we have to pay for something who should be a native feature ?

Library/Music management is a big part of the work of the DJs, Music is the raw material.
Before integrate a streaming platform like Pulselocker (many Djs really have an interest for this feature ?), I think that it should be possible for us to manage our Music more easier (natively)...
vj tech.sys 6:41 PM - 3 March, 2016
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Before integrate a streaming platform like Pulselocker (many Djs really have an interest for this feature ?), I think that it should be possible for us to manage our Music more easier (natively)...


i couldn't agree more... i have a MUCH bigger interest in using Spotify in SDJ, than having to pay for ANOTHER service that doesn't even have that big of a library right now.

And really, the music management in both SSL and SDJ is the poorest i've ever seen. Instead of worrying about Flip and other plug-ins, they really need to get this basic thing nailed down.

I paid quite a bit of money for my SL-4, and plenty of people have paid a lot of money to access SSL and SDJ, we shouldn't have to pay even MORE money to do something as basic as manage our library worth a damn, especially since most of us have already put in the time and effort to get it organized in the first place.
popnwave 12:09 AM - 4 March, 2016
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Before integrate a streaming platform like Pulselocker (many Djs really have an interest for this feature ?), I think that it should be possible for us to manage our Music more easier (natively)...


i couldn't agree more... i have a MUCH bigger interest in using Spotify in SDJ, than having to pay for ANOTHER service that doesn't even have that big of a library right now.

And really, the music management in both SSL and SDJ is the poorest i've ever seen. Instead of worrying about Flip and other plug-ins, they really need to get this basic thing nailed down.

I paid quite a bit of money for my SL-4, and plenty of people have paid a lot of money to access SSL and SDJ, we shouldn't have to pay even MORE money to do something as basic as manage our library worth a damn, especially since most of us have already put in the time and effort to get it organized in the first place.


Sell your stuff and go to Traktor. Buying hardware doesn't you entitle to squat sadly, and if you didn't research the ecosystem before purchase that's your problem.
vj tech.sys 11:56 PM - 4 March, 2016
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Sell your stuff and go to Traktor. Buying hardware doesn't you entitle to squat sadly, and if you didn't research the ecosystem before purchase that's your problem.


no, I'd rather be a pain in Serato's side about this, but thanks for the input
DJ Wendel Lemos 4:09 PM - 7 March, 2016
Hey guys, I have edited de code of itch-sync-0-1-4 to support various file formats like FLAC, AIFF, MP4, AVI, etc and I renamed it to itch-sync-0-1-5, I hope to have helped you guys.

Here is the link to download
mega.nz!qo4Umb7Y <-(copy the entire link to you browser address bar)

Here is the link how to Sync folders to crates with itch-sync
Watchwww.youtube.com

Sorry my bad english ;)
DJ Wendel Lemos 4:18 PM - 7 March, 2016
Sorry here the working link

mega.nz!qo4Umb7Y!c5Z993LApCAD4HK4rvDn6MhKhjJnKERCPen99gpjWb0
deejdave 4:20 PM - 7 March, 2016
Neither of them work
DJ Wendel Lemos 7:10 PM - 7 March, 2016
Try

h t t p s : / / mega.nz/#!qo4Umb7Y!c5Z993LApCAD4HK4rvDn6MhKhjJnKERCPen99gpjWb0

without spaces
deejdave 7:36 PM - 7 March, 2016
There ya go. I don't personally need this but the link is working for all who will.
Fl!ped 7:43 PM - 7 March, 2016
yes it works, about to test
LJ_WOOLSEY 7:43 PM - 7 March, 2016
Does this work for you all? tinyurl.com
Fl!ped 7:47 PM - 7 March, 2016
test successful on yosemite with latest serato dj beta 1.9.x
deejdave 8:22 PM - 7 March, 2016
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Does this work for you all? tinyurl.com

LOL yup
siel.de.laere@hotmail.com 9:40 PM - 7 March, 2016
+1

This is by far my biggest upset (next to audio dropouts) with Serato.
I think I have a pretty efficient way of organizing my folders, but my god if I could get the time back that I have put into placing my new music into the right crates...

Make it happen, baby!
DjZezarFlow 5:53 AM - 8 March, 2016
Thank you a lot!!
vj tech.sys 8:10 PM - 8 March, 2016
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Hey guys, I have edited de code of itch-sync-0-1-4 to support various file formats like FLAC, AIFF, MP4, AVI, etc and I renamed it to itch-sync-0-1-5, I hope to have helped you guys.


going to try this now.
this is MUCH appreciated!
vj tech.sys 12:00 AM - 9 March, 2016
OK, i ran the itch-sync-0-1-5, and it worked like a charm with FLAC files!

Thanks again for the update!
H2H 1:08 PM - 9 March, 2016
Broken link for me :o((
And you ?
vj tech.sys 1:10 PM - 9 March, 2016
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Broken link for me :o((
And you ?


Use the tiny.url link above
H2H 6:48 PM - 9 March, 2016
ok it's better, thx.
chaum 6:01 AM - 3 April, 2016
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

This is a pretty laughable flaw, it effectively makes every single user spend TWICE AS LONG organizing their music...(yeah unless itunes, gtfo with itunes most people organize their music in OPERATING SYSTEM FOLDERS)

Based on this and a few other issues I've seen where they do nothing, I seriously can't wait till I can get some CDJs and be done with this stupid program.
siel.de.laere@hotmail.com 10:32 AM - 3 April, 2016
I also think that it's not a very hard thing to do, programming wise. So agreed, the fact that this isn't possible yet and it doesn't look like it will soon is pretty stupid.
D.J. Tommy 7:46 PM - 5 June, 2016
Why is Serato not making an option named Folder Crate!
I'm not seeing any serious response from Serato on this!
This is my biggest problem with working with Serato.
You always need a medium to store your Music on, and that medium needs to be organized.
Serato thinks that you throw your music in one big pile of music folder, and let Serato do it.
But a serious DJ needs to listen, buy, record and download a lot! of music that needs a filing system on the medium. The best is that Serato reflects that structure on that folder or storage!
Smart crates are then more useful in getting the latest releases or other choices in specific created crates.
The way it now is is chaotic, and makes me think to switch just to playing on CDJ's or other software.
And yes i also have Alchimie Zinc, and it's a hassle!!!!

Hope to hear from you Serato!!!!!!!!


SO I HOPE FOR A SERIOUS REACTION FROM SERATO ON THIS.
H2H 11:03 AM - 7 June, 2016
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SO I HOPE FOR A SERIOUS REACTION FROM SERATO ON THIS.


+1000000
Jesse I 7:15 AM - 14 June, 2016
Yes please, this feature is so long overdue it's ridiculous.

On a similar note, has anyone tried using Alchimie Zinc with Windows 10?
vj tech.sys 5:18 PM - 20 June, 2016
the way i look at it now, they can't even get some of the core stuff working in SDJ without issues... not sure we should expect them to add even something else (that other dj software programs have been doing for 10+ years) into the mix, and not expect even more issues.

i've been wanting this feature since the SSL days, but with the issues that can't seem to be fixed, this might need to sit on the backburner for a bit.

i've been using serato itch sync for years, and while not as easy as just specifying your folder and letting serato do the work, it's been reliable, and not affected the performance of SSL in any way. and it's free. google it.
vj tech.sys 5:19 PM - 20 June, 2016
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On a similar note, has anyone tried using Alchimie Zinc with Windows 10?


it *should* work fine since it worked with Win7, but i only used the trial version in 7
Jesse I 12:54 AM - 22 June, 2016
FWIW, I can now confirm Alchimie Zinc works perfectly on Windows 10.

I never got any responses to my emails from Alchimie though, so it does appear they've abandoned support for the software, which is a shame.
Harddried 1:20 PM - 22 June, 2016
+1
vj tech.sys 10:11 PM - 24 June, 2016
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it does appear they've abandoned support for the software, which is a shame.


that's a little disheartening for a paid product... makes me not want to purchase it
4play 2:49 AM - 28 June, 2016
+1000! this is a feature that ive asked about for years!
OllyDowning 6:27 PM - 30 June, 2016
How has this still not been implemented... I do like serato (to an extent) but its so bloody infuriating when the developers don't listen to their customers due to laziness or whatever it is that prevents them from doing anything remotely suggested. Why do we even expect anything we suggest to be added anymore, they are too busy on working on features that other software has had for years (Traktor has had hardware remapping for donkeys). Rant over.

TL;DR? Add it^
H2H 10:02 AM - 27 October, 2016
Quote:
I think that it's easy to add a third type of crate, to keep "crate" and "smart crate", and add "folder crate".
If you want to manage your music like now, you can.
My vision of the use will be the following :
- Go to setup
- Select "Enable folder crate"
- Choose your root folder
- Select or not "Auto update at opening"
- Select or not "Auto analyse new file"

If "Folder crate" is enabled a third crate button next to "smart crate" is activated and you can click on it to udpate folder crates manually.
So SDJ will create crates and sub-crates like your folders structure.


To help you (Serato) remember how to implement this feature...
LucaPedonese 10:21 AM - 27 October, 2016
+1
maydo 5:35 PM - 31 October, 2016
Quote:
Quote:
I think that it's easy to add a third type of crate, to keep "crate" and "smart crate", and add "folder crate".
If you want to manage your music like now, you can.
My vision of the use will be the following :
- Go to setup
- Select "Enable folder crate"
- Choose your root folder
- Select or not "Auto update at opening"
- Select or not "Auto analyse new file"

If "Folder crate" is enabled a third crate button next to "smart crate" is activated and you can click on it to udpate folder crates manually.
So SDJ will create crates and sub-crates like your folders structure.


To help you (Serato) remember how to implement this feature...



+ 10000 :)

this feature is been discussed last 10 years :)
the hope is the last to give up )) maybee next 10 years
djBooker 3:19 AM - 5 November, 2016
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Or what even would be better is a function where I can select a folder and declare it as the root folder of my music library. Then the programm creates my crates based on this folder... for every sub-folder... there is a sub-crate created and all the music found in a folder is automaticly added to the related crate. This would be a HUGE time saver!! and I think it's possible to program this as a third party program not running as a function in the main program. So no worrys about the stabilty issue of the main program needed!


+1K
djBooker 3:22 AM - 5 November, 2016
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How has this still not been implemented... I do like serato (to an extent) but its so bloody infuriating when the developers don't listen to their customers due to laziness or whatever it is that prevents them from doing anything remotely suggested. Why do we even expect anything we suggest to be added anymore, they are too busy on working on features that other software has had for years (Traktor has had hardware remapping for donkeys). Rant over.

TL;DR? Add it^


+2K
djBooker 3:23 AM - 5 November, 2016
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it does appear they've abandoned support for the software, which is a shame.


that's a little disheartening for a paid product... makes me not want to purchase it


+3K
PolishKluubMafia 9:51 AM - 16 February, 2017
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lder of my music library. Then the programm creates my crates based on this folder... for



+1000000000


So annoying when i add new music to my library, I have to also add it into each crate!
Especially if I have quite a few updates

Do Serato actually look at this Forum??
djmsagar 3:20 PM - 18 February, 2017
+1

Basic requirement! It's perhaps a huge reason why I'm not 100% Serato converted. Don't have the time to get music, sort it in folders and then have to (remember where first! then) add things manually into Serato from within subfolders where you've sorted new music.

Like Traktor, watch folders and add folders and subfolders auto on import or start-up. Auto sort in crates/sub-crates in this case, as suggested originally, even better! It would cut out gig-prep time when wanting/needing to use Serato by... ALOT. Time is valuable.

Personally I believe folder sorting is so much easier and fluid, especially if you DJ mixed-genres and certain parties, where you can't go prepared with a couple playlists/crates and have a good gig. At gigs like these, you are relying on your folders, and your memory of where you put things, rather than sift through thousands of tracks, to play something that might just work at that moment.
D.J. Tommy 8:25 AM - 20 February, 2017
Had contact with Aaron about it, after posting about it some time ago.
He told me it"s not easy to implement.
Maybe they don't have the know how to do it?
Or have trouble choosing a method.
I get a amateur feeling about the developing implementing strategies of Serato.
Or they have spaghetti coded their Software so much that they need to rewrite it all at a to high cost.
djmsagar 1:06 PM - 20 February, 2017
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Had contact with Aaron about it, after posting about it some time ago.
He told me it"s not easy to implement.
Maybe they don't have the know how to do it?
Or have trouble choosing a method.
I get a amateur feeling about the developing implementing strategies of Serato.
Or they have spaghetti coded their Software so much that they need to rewrite it all at a to high cost.


Perhaps you are right about the way they have coded! Although I don't think that is a valid excuse to ignore it when you are selling software. This isn't exactly an open-source community. There are many niggly issues with using Serato. These are hardly 'features' worth shouting about from a Software seller point of view, but they are very irritating to the end user. To date, with a good spec PC I still get Serato crashes, when its trying to deal with certain files, which I don't have on any other DJ software.

1. This discussion's suggestion is so basic, that even if they have to rewrite it, they really should! The fact that third-parties are selling (for money!) software to 'mess' with Serato library management, is a shame! Do we have to do this in Traktor? No, do we have to do this in VDJ ? No! Traktor for that matter will even search by folder location for me! So, if I remember when and where I placed it when I was sorting all my music out, I could simply type the folder name and it would show me the tracks!

2. The laggy waveform issue! Oh! god, 10 years hailed as 'top DJ software'. Sure, they can't do something as simple as 'let Windows use the Graphics chip/card to render waves so they aren't choppy. That is nothing to do with what specifications or laptop or OS I wish to use, its a Serato software coding issue.

Its fantastic to have a 'Suggest us features' forum and then decide based on how many users want it, whether it should be implemented. However, the afore mentioned issues are HARDLY 'FEATURES' in 2017. Hec' the simplest of win32 applications can do complex library management and folder searches! I'll add another +1, if its going to make any difference.
H2H 4:37 PM - 13 June, 2017
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He told me it"s not easy to implement.


It doesn't seems to me so difficult to code a sync button who will read a file tree and create/delete crate/sub-crate/tracks into serato.
And That, whitout call into question the way the serato library works.

I really don't undestand why serato don't implement this feature...
DJ Laitier 9:09 AM - 14 June, 2017
+1
DJ Busy ZA 3:08 PM - 14 June, 2017
Here's a novel idea....

We all use more than 1 DJ program, at least I do AND from my experience most other programs reads the Serato crates. Why don't you just build a functionality for Serato to read other databases... like VDJ or Traktor... this should let Serato developers off the hook forever.


"EK SE MAAR NET" (South African joke)
deejdave 10:04 PM - 14 June, 2017
Not most. Only one as a matter of fact. There is only one full fledged DJ app that reads Serato crates being VDJ.


The new Engine Prime does as well but it is a library management app not a DJ app. Other than that a third party app like Rekord Buddy must be used. Thing is being that Rekord Buddy already exists this is not really necessary in this regard.

In respect to VDJ reading Serato (and other DJ app) crates this is a one way thing as VDJ is after Serato (and other) customers while the same may not be so simple the other way around.
DJ Busy ZA 1:53 PM - 15 June, 2017
Hi DJ,Dave

I see your point but in the final analysis and Serato has to admit, the PAYING customer wants simpler file/library management systems. We are spoilt for choice with other apps and it is quite frustrating that this request has been around so long. Library management is not rocket science and writing an external app (or even function) that does a "proper job" should not deviate that much away from the brief.

I do get that Serato wants to keep the DJing functionality away from the library functionality and I can assure them that I do not update my library while gig'ing, it is much too risky a business and I endeavor to do that when I am NOT playing out. So if the functionality to administer the library is part of a ADD ON then this should serve the purposes quite well.

The fact that I have to go to the crate and manually update files that I have added is primitive and always gets me going to the competition.

Thanks again and happy gig'ing
deejdave 8:04 PM - 15 June, 2017
I completely understand. I too hope they come up with more library tools in the near future but I think we have a better chance of success keeping it in house. I don't think it warrants add on as it is basic core feature so hopefully there is a happy medium.
vjMeely 9:16 PM - 17 June, 2017
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Had contact with Aaron about it, after posting about it some time ago.
He told me it"s not easy to implement.
Maybe they don't have the know how to do it?
Or have trouble choosing a method.


Maybe they should ask alchimiedj.com how they did it... and btw Alchimie did it years ago. SMH


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Its fantastic to have a 'Suggest us features' forum and then decide based on how many users want it, whether it should be implemented. However, the afore mentioned issues are HARDLY 'FEATURES' in 2017. Hec' the simplest of win32 applications can do complex library management and folder searches! I'll add another +1, if its going to make any difference.


In my opinion, its a false notion to base decisions to implement on popularity. Many users don't know whats good until they see it. Of course you don't implement something that nobody is interested in, but genius ideas are never from popularity.... otherwise they wouldn't be genius, would they? The takeaway here is that library management sucks and has for a long long time.
vj tech.sys 12:44 AM - 10 July, 2017
Funny, VDJ and RekordBox seems to have that directory/subdirectory thing down pat. Can any Traktor users verify that you can browse your directory without having to create individual crates/subscrates? DJay Pro does it with your 'Music' crate as well

It really seems like something basic that woulda been implemented at the get go.

Maybe this is something they've been working on for the last decade, and will be SDJ 2.5.9
deejdave 1:10 AM - 10 July, 2017
Neither Rekordbox nor Traktor have the same capabilities that Serato does though. I can take my external library to any computer in the world with Serato installed and it will be like I had my library there the whole time (minus history etc obviously). This is very useful for those of us using multiple laptops or those who stay current with there machines. EVERY time you want to play on a new laptop (with TP2 or RB) you must export/import your library and re-analyze etc. Not very convenient at all. This is all thanks to how Serato handles the library. Luckily I saw how things were heading years ago thus I have been managing my library primarily via Serato then SYNC to other apps from there. I use Rekord Buddy 2 now but I have been doing this long before it was even a thought.


Again I can understand the want for this but trust there are some advantages as well as the minor disadvantages to Serato's library management and they certainly do not have it entirely wrong.
vj tech.sys 1:40 AM - 10 July, 2017
Capabilities, like say, playing music? Cue points? Loops?

If i'm not mistaken, RekordBox was made for organizing files on an external drive to play on other Pioneer/RekordBox systems.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but i'm not sure what "serato exclusive" feature is so awesome that basic library functions are ignored.

Don't get me wrong, I like the crate function, but being able to see my library the way I have physically organized it, would be a nice little "feature".

It's taken Serato USERS to come up with some solutions.
SERATO Forum post about Serato Itch Sync: serato.com

I have to use Serato Itch Sync every time I add new music. It's become second nature to me now, but it shouldn't.
deejdave 2:03 AM - 10 July, 2017
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I can take my external library to any computer in the world with Serato installed and it will be like I had my library there the whole time (minus history etc obviously).

Neither Rekordbox or Traktor has this. If by systems you mean players (CDJ/XDJ) Yes you can use the rekordbox formatted drives on rekordbox players but you can NOT move to a different laptop at will without
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export/import your library and re-analyze etc.

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This is very useful for those of us using multiple laptops or those who stay current with there machines.

Not sure how often you change laptops but this is crucial for me. I have a laptop for editing etc and a laptop strictly for performing and I can juggle drives at will between them. SO I wouldn't call it awesome I would call it a deal killer/game changer (when it first was designed those many years ago) and the primary reason I chose Serato to begin with.

I know VDJ can do it (with Serato crates at least) but neither Traktor nor Rekordbox/rekordbox DJ can do this.

Again for someone starting out I can see this being huge but as I transfer music to the main drive monthly moving around 10 crates/sub crates per month (one per genre/sub genre) is not all that much to do and it helps me stay connected to my library believe it or not.

Not trying to be argumentative either though and I will say I can see the want/need for this 100%. All I am saying is Serato does not have it ALL wrong.
vjMeely 3:58 AM - 10 July, 2017
@deejdave what is your point? The point of the OP was asking for an ability to sync the crates with the file system. This has nothing to do with the portability of the library.

To be fair, Serato does have an option to play-from the file system using the file/browse buttons above the library view. It just does not however lend itself to being a play-from view as the crates do. Perhaps this request should simply be for the existing FIle/Browse option to be moved to the left panel. Done. Wait.... this would look too much like vDJ ;-)

(remember, crates are the same thing as playlists in other dj programs)
alec.tron 9:17 AM - 10 July, 2017
+1 on the original 'update library' button (for which there would have to be the concept of a file system based library for Serato first of; having a file system trawl/monitor that can be activated is easy then... but that concept does not exist in SSL or SDJ). So yea, maybe once the long promised library rewrite comes through... fingers crossed

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(remember, crates are the same thing as playlists in other dj programs)

No... they were initially meant to be record 'crates' (the idea being physical ones) which you can put in order, or not and just dumpt shit into.
The problem is, Serato never cared about making these actual playlists... proof ? try exporting a crate into a 'playlist' format...
#Seratogripe since 2008 ish...

c.
vjMeely 2:53 PM - 10 July, 2017
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...No... they were initially meant to be record 'crates' (the idea being physical ones) which you can put in order, or not and just dumpt shit into.


I think Serato just named it "Crate" to make it familiar for the great migration from analog to digital. If you can put songs into a list in a default specific order and resort the list based on column headers - its a playlist.

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The problem is, Serato never cared about making these actual playlists... proof ? try exporting a crate into a 'playlist' format...
#Seratogripe since 2008 ish...

c.


If you have used playlists in other DJ programs you will agree that its the same concept. Just because it may not export to something like a .m3u file does not mean its not a playlist. (in fact I think sDJ does export to .m3u)
alec.tron 9:49 PM - 10 July, 2017
Nope, SDJ does not.
The only way to export a crate to m3u (or txt or csv) is to play one track after the other, then work around the missing functionality by using the history export...
So yes, I get that crates can be treated & understood like playlists as they store order of tracks, but no, as factually and in Serato's nomenclature and functionality, there are no playlists imo.

c.
Will08272 2:24 PM - 12 July, 2017
They should just let one select a folder or folders and write the same functionality that the auto import folder currently has.
kasey 10:50 AM - 30 August, 2017
They won't. They have not heeded our plight for years. They're not that smart.

I am now just here on this forum for the reads. I no longer use Serato, along with MANY of my friends because of shit like this.
acemc 6:14 PM - 3 September, 2017
+1......... again!!!
Dj Ricky Redz 6:15 AM - 5 September, 2017
I actually gave up on this and started using iTunes...
kasey 5:54 PM - 5 September, 2017
YES!! Lets give up on crappy Serato and use VDJ!!!
vj tech.sys 9:46 PM - 11 September, 2017
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I actually gave up on this and started using iTunes...


god, i HATE iTunes!!!

why is it that we have to default to 3rd party programs to do what should be native?!?!?!
acemc 9:52 PM - 11 September, 2017
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why is it that we have to default to 3rd party programs

Coz Serato really couldn't give a fuck about what we want!!
They'll give us what they want, and if we don't like it.......... tough shit mate!
Will08272 10:17 PM - 11 September, 2017
Had to resort to itunes again as well, despite all the cons it is doing what i need it to do for the time being.
DJ Sneh 10:21 PM - 11 September, 2017
THIS feature is SO NEEDED!! and is been discussed for so long time here but Serato really a give a fuck about what we want!!
Nalim 8:41 PM - 14 September, 2017
I need this feature indeed. Serato come on.
vj tech.sys 3:15 AM - 15 September, 2017
this is one of the reasons i've been moving over to RekordBox, and have been steering people clear from getting started on Serato. Luckily, RekordBox supports the Rane SL-2/3/4, as well as the NI Traktor Audio 6, and BOTH audio interfaces with the Serato TCRs.

My next purchase is going to be a controller, and at this point, it looks like it'll be a RekordBox model.

Pioneer has addressed my concerns with the video engine, so i'm almost ready to pull the trigger, and start using it for live performances.
Nalim 3:17 AM - 15 September, 2017
RekordBuddy will introduce this feature soon, so there is no need to switch from Serato Dj
vj tech.sys 5:19 AM - 15 September, 2017
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RekordBuddy will introduce this feature soon, so there is no need to switch from Serato Dj


i'm not purchasing something that should already be included...
kasey 11:18 AM - 15 September, 2017
STOP USING SERATO!!!
Nalim 1:32 PM - 15 September, 2017
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RekordBuddy will introduce this feature soon, so there is no need to switch from Serato Dj


i'm not purchasing something that should already be included...


I definitely will, to be able always to switch from Serato DJ to Traktor, RekorBox etc. with all my library (crate, cue's, loops)
Matt P 12:46 AM - 16 September, 2017
Hey guys,

Just want to let you know, Serato hasn't forgotten about the need for this. It's still a something we are hoping to do.

Regards
acemc 3:28 AM - 17 September, 2017
Matt - what u say & what Serato does are two different things! Serato can't even be bothered to give us a day mode!! Giving us what we ask for in 5yrs time doesn't help us!! Please realize that if you guys continue to ignore your customers, you WILL lose them. There is other software that wants our support. It's time to show us that you're not ignoring us, coz that's how we feel!!!
Blank_Disk 11:36 AM - 17 September, 2017
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Hey guys,

Just want to let you know, Serato hasn't forgotten about the need for this. It's still a something we are hoping to do.

Regards


THEN GET IT DONE.
Blank_Disk 11:44 AM - 17 September, 2017
see we all keep asking for features and so far for the past year i've not seen a single one come to fruition, for example more than a few asked for :-

push to sampler in size of loop (instead of push whole tune to sampler) - not fixed

we asked for an actual midi editor for existing controllers - not fixed

library improvement for smart crates (auto scan a particular folder or link to folder) - not fixed.

can you see a pattern emerging ?
acemc 5:26 PM - 17 September, 2017
New features, I can understand taking some time to decide on what & how to implement, but basic things that are seriously needed & that was in ssl & itch not getting priority really irritates me.
Dj Ricky Redz 7:38 PM - 17 September, 2017
REKORDBOX DJ is looking to be a decent alternative...
Blank_Disk 11:12 PM - 17 September, 2017
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Blank_Disk dusts off his traktor pro & starts to map his ddj-sx2...


starting to lose confidence in serato, seen this before when I made the mistake of buying numark.
Matt P 10:46 PM - 18 September, 2017
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New features, I can understand taking some time to decide on what & how to implement, but basic things that are seriously needed & that was in ssl & itch not getting priority really irritates me.


What you are asking for is very risky work for library functions and takes time to consider and get done correctly.
Sure, it might be a slow process but we hope to get it done right when we do these things.

There are a lot of things to balance with software and hardware priorities. It's pretty boring stuff, but it's important to balance all these things as well to keep moving forward as a company.
Ultimately, Serato can only do what it can do as a small company. I'm not sure if you know that Serato is only 130 or so employees globally.

Regards
acemc 10:51 PM - 18 September, 2017
How long have we been begging for a day mode?
Do you not consider this as an essential for guys that play in the daytime?
It just doesn't seem like this is a priority, which I honestly feel it should be.
vj tech.sys 8:32 AM - 22 September, 2017
Slow? this has been needed since the SL days, hence why third party options have been out there since Serato Itch.

"slow"... LOL!
Blank_Disk 4:51 PM - 22 September, 2017
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New features, I can understand taking some time to decide on what & how to implement, but basic things that are seriously needed & that was in ssl & itch not getting priority really irritates me.


What you are asking for is very risky work for library functions and takes time to consider and get done correctly.
Sure, it might be a slow process but we hope to get it done right when we do these things.

There are a lot of things to balance with software and hardware priorities. It's pretty boring stuff, but it's important to balance all these things as well to keep moving forward as a company.
Ultimately, Serato can only do what it can do as a small company. I'm not sure if you know that Serato is only 130 or so employees globally.

Regards

Then hire more staff, you charge enough for expansions that you should be able to afford it easily.
kasey 12:50 PM - 26 September, 2017
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New features, I can understand taking some time to decide on what & how to implement, but basic things that are seriously needed & that was in ssl & itch not getting priority really irritates me.


What you are asking for is very risky work for library functions and takes time to consider and get done correctly.
Sure, it might be a slow process but we hope to get it done right when we do these things.

There are a lot of things to balance with software and hardware priorities. It's pretty boring stuff, but it's important to balance all these things as well to keep moving forward as a company.
Ultimately, Serato can only do what it can do as a small company. I'm not sure if you know that Serato is only 130 or so employees globally.

Regards

The 'folder sync / replication to crates' feature has already been scripted and in FREQUENT use!!! All you have to do is implement it within the program!!! 98% of your work is done!!!
vjMeely 2:42 AM - 4 October, 2017
I don't think the group is buying your responses @Matt P.
Good job for at least making a response tho. Better than crickets which is usually the case.....

I have a lot of respect for a healthy exchange. Communications is always healthy.

1.) Hey guys, can we have this or that.
2.) Hey guys, we maybe can do this but not that and heres why....
3.) Hey guys, ok we can understand that but this is really bugging us and just know that if somebody else comes by and offers this and that we are gone. Ok?
4.) Hey guys, we understand that and this is what we are going to commit to do if you give us the chance. And by the way, while we can't promise dates, we hope to potentially deliver this in ...... days, months, years.

After this kind of exchange we can probably move on to discuss more interesting topics and not have to belabor topics. Yes?
kasey 11:54 AM - 4 October, 2017
Well said indeed.
Dj Pepe 12:31 PM - 5 October, 2017
+1

even if you use itunes when serato is open, and download a new song from itunes for example, or close and re-open serato, or drag into, but an "update library" button in the Files section would be more useful
DJ Rich - FL 1:15 PM - 7 October, 2017
WOW - I'm new here and a little taken back at the fact that Serato users have been asking for this feature, an EXTREMELY good request I might add - for YEARS !!!

Why haven't you guys at least addressed it - It would make our jobs so much easier and we would appreciate an already awesome program so much more.

I understand its a relatively small company but from the response I saw on this thread it seems like it is in great demand.

On another note - thank you for developing such a great program
Dj MacMillz 4:44 PM - 16 October, 2017
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I don't think the group is buying your responses @Matt P.
Good job for at least making a response tho. Better than crickets which is usually the case.....

I have a lot of respect for a healthy exchange. Communications is always healthy.

1.) Hey guys, can we have this or that.
2.) Hey guys, we maybe can do this but not that and heres why....
3.) Hey guys, ok we can understand that but this is really bugging us and just know that if somebody else comes by and offers this and that we are gone. Ok?
4.) Hey guys, we understand that and this is what we are going to commit to do if you give us the chance. And by the way, while we can't promise dates, we hope to potentially deliver this in ...... days, months, years.

After this kind of exchange we can probably move on to discuss more interesting topics and not have to belabor topics. Yes?


Idk how long you’ve been around these parts, but that method was tried (some variation of it at least) and it backfired horribly..... (circa SSL 1.7 or something ) oh man it was a shit show in the comments.....
Folks took estimates and transparency and interpreted them into due dates and “next release will have this or that”

I do agree the feature is wanted and needed at this point in the game... but it’s like complaining about free WiFi on the plane, we complain when it don’t work or not available but we’ve been going about without it for so long, do we really miss it?
vjMeely 6:31 PM - 16 October, 2017
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.... And by the way, while we can't promise dates, we hope to potentially deliver this in ...... days, months, years.


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Idk how long you’ve been around these parts, but that method was tried (some variation of it at least) and it backfired horribly..... (circa SSL 1.7 or something ) oh man it was a shit show in the comments.....
Folks took estimates and transparency and interpreted them into due dates and “next release will have this or that”


Its all about communications. There is a way to say things without completely committing. There are people who specialize in communications.

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I do agree the feature is wanted and needed at this point in the game... but it’s like complaining about free WiFi on the plane, we complain when it don’t work or not available but we’ve been going about without it for so long, do we really miss it?


If you are complacent and simply accept what you are provided, you may never be all that you can be. Ask and ye shall receive. 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't.

Furthermore, Serato implies they are receptive to suggestions. Maybe thats where the communication breakdown began. Don't ask for suggestions if there is no point to it.
vj tech.sys 9:22 PM - 18 October, 2017
Maybe Serato will make this a plug-in... Serato Library
We'll pay $100 for it, and then after a bit, it'll be on the same "update cycle" as Serato Video
TickTalk 7:21 AM - 20 October, 2017
Would also like to see this feature.
Blank_Disk 9:40 PM - 21 October, 2017
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Maybe Serato will make this a plug-in... Serato Library
We'll pay $100 for it, and then after a bit, it'll be on the same "update cycle" as Serato Video


LMFAO sounds about right
MrTeaBag 9:31 PM - 30 October, 2017
Well... This sums up my experience with Serato the 2 years i've been using it: Slow, old, never updated (with anything useful) and not listening to their community.

What other software is out there to use with Pioneer?
Blank_Disk 11:24 AM - 1 November, 2017
rekordbox or traktor are best value for money, virtual dj is overpriced, Deckadance has no midi map out for it.
Blank_Disk 11:25 AM - 1 November, 2017
ps traktor has the best sampler too
kasey 1:09 PM - 1 November, 2017
I use Virtual DJ, and tried Traktor. Both works absolutely great IMHO. Much much much more useful features than Serato, and always evolving.
vj tech.sys 12:28 AM - 4 November, 2017
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What other software is out there to use with Pioneer?


i've been having good luck with RekordBox, and my Rane SL-4, and Serato TCRs.
a buddy of mine has the DDJ-RZX, and says that he's not going back to SDJ. he likes it that much
roger537 10:57 AM - 4 November, 2017
if its so difficult to make a decent library management how come virtual dj, djay, cross, traktor and rekordbox do it so good without any problem. library management is essential and serato has the worst after denons engine which is the absolute worst. mundane tasks like this should be smarter so we dont waste time on that. everytime i update my folders with music i have to erase my entire library and drag it again so i dont forget to update a folder. i dont believe the features that are being asked here are hard to implement. the biggest reason why i use virtual dj 90% of the time is because of library management. i download a track is immediately in the folder i put it in. even the free program mixxx does this how come u people cant. sounds like you guys are so arrogant that you think you can ignore your user base. theres only so many celebrity djs in the world.
vj tech.sys 7:24 PM - 4 November, 2017
roger537... this is EXACTLY the problem! i've felt like the "crate" system they use is burdensome, not only on the program, but on the system as well.

i'm running a mid-2012 MBP with an intel i7 proc... there are times that i'll click on a "crate", and i'll get the beachball. a beachball. just for clicking a folder.

in virtual dj, you can be performing, add a song to a folder, click off of that folder, click back on it, and the song is there. clicking folders, or doing searches isn't a problem in it.

for the life of me, i don't understand WHY a decent file explorer eludes this company... yet we get complex stuff like beat-jump, and whatever else i never asked for, all of the time.

serato is pretty much like, *new update*, "YOU ASKED FOR IT, BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING IT TO YOU! INSTEAD, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT ONLY 2% OF THE CUSTOMER BASE THINKS IT NEEDS!!!", then they hand you some BS "feature" that can turn words inside out, but GOOD LUCK finding that one song you KNOW you have, but you can't see it, because you are already performing, and can't use serato itch sync (A THIRD PARTY PROGRAM) to get those new songs in that "crate" correctly!

now, you can use file mode, but you need to remember where you dropped that file, or better yet, go use your system search, but be prepared to have boarders show up on your video, because when you exit fullscreen mode, so does antiquated serato video, that hasn't been updated in like three years....
roger537 7:32 PM - 4 November, 2017
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roger537... this is EXACTLY the problem! i've felt like the "crate" system they use is burdensome, not only on the program, but on the system as well.

i'm running a mid-2012 MBP with an intel i7 proc... there are times that i'll click on a "crate", and i'll get the beachball. a beachball. just for clicking a folder.

in virtual dj, you can be performing, add a song to a folder, click off of that folder, click back on it, and the song is there. clicking folders, or doing searches isn't a problem in it.

for the life of me, i don't understand WHY a decent file explorer eludes this company... yet we get complex stuff like beat-jump, and whatever else i never asked for, all of the time.

serato is pretty much like, *new update*, "YOU ASKED FOR IT, BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING IT TO YOU! INSTEAD, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT ONLY 2% OF THE CUSTOMER BASE THINKS IT NEEDS!!!", then they hand you some BS "feature" that can turn words inside out, but GOOD LUCK finding that one song you KNOW you have, but you can't see it, because you are already performing, and can't use serato itch sync (A THIRD PARTY PROGRAM) to get those new songs in that "crate" correctly!

now, you can use file mode, but you need to remember where you dropped that file, or better yet, go use your system search, but be prepared to have boarders show up on your video, because when you exit fullscreen mode, so does antiquated serato video, that hasn't been updated in like three years....

all great points. my biggest pet peeves and serato is not the only offender is that they use apple style ways to force you to do wat they want. they even require a apple program like quicktime or have bonjour installed. i hate that. quicktime isnt even suported by apple anymore but i cant use the video plugin without it. i bet there are more djs with windows out there than those pesky macs.
vj tech.sys 7:46 PM - 4 November, 2017
i originally bought my SL-4 when i had a windows machine... SSL would take a dump if i had more than (UNKNOWN) files scanned. i kept fighting with serato support, which told me, "put fewer songs in your library". yeah, great advice for a mobile DJ that uses multiple formats, across multiple years. so i got away from windows, and got a mac. problem solved. SSL was now working the way it was supposed to, i guess.

fast forward a few years, and now we have SDJ. while i'm sure it works better with windows than it used to, SDJ now works less reliably with mac than SSL. i'm not sure about how this compromise helps and/or hurts users, but it's definitely pushed some of us to looking for something else.