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Giving Traktor a serious go.

thebuttonfreak 11:49 PM - 2 February, 2013
I'm committing to it for the next few weeks. Give it a fair shake. I love Serato but no midi out is killing me.
Hitman303 12:39 AM - 3 February, 2013
So.
thebuttonfreak 12:42 AM - 3 February, 2013
dj "discussion"
chasetimeless 1:02 AM - 3 February, 2013
who cares
thebuttonfreak 1:04 AM - 3 February, 2013
fair enough.
Dj MacMillz 1:40 AM - 3 February, 2013
Lol ^^

It may been received better if you went ahead and did your testing, then reported back with your findings/thoughts/reviews/comments to spark a 'discussion'.

No one here (Serato forums) will care or feel some type of way if you switch, and especially with the 'threat' of doing so....


You are free to do as you wish, you are not obligated or contracted to use only one software.

Just some FYI.
thebuttonfreak 2:23 AM - 3 February, 2013
Ok, I'll report back in a few weeks and give my impressions. Just spent all day setting up the midi. Pretty cool so far.
Dj Nyce 2:30 AM - 3 February, 2013
i'm testing it out as well. i have an a6, x1 and f1. loving the remix decks. i love how i can use the loop recorder, record a loop and drag it into a deck or remix deck.

i do hate that the remix decks do not remember the last loaded samples. you have to reload the saved remix set everytime you start traktor.
sixxx 6:25 AM - 3 February, 2013
Oh good. Finally we can get rid of this poser.

nm
thebuttonfreak 6:32 AM - 3 February, 2013
Ya, using serato since 2004. Definitely a poser. btw what does nm at the end of all your posts stand for?
the_black_one 6:53 AM - 3 February, 2013
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Ya, using serato since 2004. Definitely a poser. btw what does nm at the end of all your posts stand for?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (NH,NM)

PUTO!!!
eder 8:51 AM - 3 February, 2013
No Midi
the_black_one 9:08 AM - 3 February, 2013
the thing about midi is this....... my ass is a grown ass adult that knows a thing or two about the dj businesses..... midi out is a must for SL to implement..... SL team..... get your shit together!!!!!!!!..........


a NI99a from 2004
phatbob 11:25 AM - 3 February, 2013
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No Midi


WIN
DJ Dynamite - NJ 1:03 PM - 3 February, 2013
I don't get it.. whats the big deal with midi out. Its not like technic 1200s send or receive a midi signal anyway (NM)
forty 2:30 PM - 3 February, 2013
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I don't get it.. whats the big deal with midi out. Its not like technic 1200s send or receive a midi signal anyway (NM)


Because a great deal of SSL users are using controllers with their 1200's or possibly not using turntables at all.

Not to mention the sync options with other software which will be possible when they can talk to one another.
Will08272 2:41 PM - 3 February, 2013
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I don't get it.. whats the big deal with midi out. Its not like technic 1200s send or receive a midi signal anyway (NM)


To have have buttons light up on other controllers, have serato sync with external effects, for lights and external samplers and even drum machines. Thats my assumption.
PorkyG 3:08 PM - 3 February, 2013
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I don't get it.. whats the big deal with midi out. Its not like technic 1200s send or receive a midi signal anyway (NM)


Because it's 2013.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:34 PM - 3 February, 2013
LOL.. for the sake of argument, I would like to see some people post video of all the cool and innovative things you're doing live with all the extra tools you have at your disposal now. And when I say live I mean performing live at a club not live in your bedroom. (nm)
Mike_P 3:45 PM - 3 February, 2013
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LOL.. for the sake of argument, I would like to see some people post video of all the cool and innovative things you're doing live with all the extra tools you have at your disposal now. And when I say live I mean performing live at a club not live in your bedroom. (nm)

Oh shit! Ouch! Lol
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:56 PM - 3 February, 2013
haha, Mike P... it wasn't meant as an "Ouch" type of comment. I just see alot of people on here asking for features and complaining about what other products have but they haven't taken the time to learn everything that SSL does or they don't even use the features that they have at their disposal now
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:00 PM - 3 February, 2013
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To have have buttons light up on other controllers,


LMAO!

I remember when used to by rack components simply because they had pretty lights....

BBE Sonic Maximizers for example....
PorkyG 4:31 PM - 3 February, 2013
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LOL.. for the sake of argument, I would like to see some people post video of all the cool and innovative things you're doing live with all the extra tools you have at your disposal now. And when I say live I mean performing live at a club not live in your bedroom. (nm)


Considering the studio/bedroom is where edits are perfected I don't see your point of only wanting to only see it live in a club. I understand why you want to see it live but why would you not want to see it being used in both instances? On that same note not all clubs allow you to hook up any equipment.

If you can't understand the benefits of a midi fighter or being able to assign effects to loop rolls without having to midi pipe then I don't know what else to say.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 4:41 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Considering the studio/bedroom is where edits are perfected I don't see your point of only wanting to only see it live in a club. I understand why you want to see it live but why would you not want to see it being used in both instances? On that same note not all clubs allow you to hook up any equipment.

If you can't understand the benefits of a midi fighter or being able to assign effects to loop rolls without having to midi pipe then I don't know what else to say.

Everything is practiced and perfected in the studio/bedroom... DJs have practiced scratching and mixing in their studio/bedroom years, but they actually apply it to a live show. People are asking for features just to have them and they never apply them to a live show. That's why I'm asking for video of some of these guys applying the features in a live show. And they can't say they're being innovative with the tools they have at their disposal if nobody ever hears what they do outside of their bedroom.
PorkyG 4:52 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Considering the studio/bedroom is where edits are perfected I don't see your point of only wanting to only see it live in a club. I understand why you want to see it live but why would you not want to see it being used in both instances? On that same note not all clubs allow you to hook up any equipment.

If you can't understand the benefits of a midi fighter or being able to assign effects to loop rolls without having to midi pipe then I don't know what else to say.

Everything is practiced and perfected in the studio/bedroom... DJs have practiced scratching and mixing in their studio/bedroom years, but they actually apply it to a live show. People are asking for features just to have them and they never apply them to a live show. That's why I'm asking for video of some of these guys applying the features in a live show. And they can't say they're being innovative with the tools they have at their disposal if nobody ever hears what they do outside of their bedroom.


I really do understand why you asked to see it live but we both know finding clubs that allow us to play and do what we want is not easy sow hat you're asking is not really ideal.

We can't all be Afrojack, Daft Punk, Deadmau5 where we get to bring our gear and just hook it up at a club, they're not going to go for that in a club because they're nothing like Peter Gatien but I don't think that should be an excuse for Serato to not implement this.

However the Electric Daisy Carnival is a good place to see multiple controllers in use and live.
Dj Nyce 5:20 PM - 3 February, 2013
midi spec was published in 1983...plenty of time for everyone to figure it out.

i want midi out so that i can sync with ableton (or the daw of my choice) without having to use the bridge is over.

i also want midi out so that i can send midi clock to resolume.

and i want midi out so that i can get visual feedback when using a midi controller.

i for one think it pointless to implement midi in without midi out. it's like playing just the tip.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 5:23 PM - 3 February, 2013
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it's like playing just the tip.

LOL
thebuttonfreak 6:23 PM - 3 February, 2013
I don't play at out as much as I used to but all the people I know who are still pro all started with Serato and have moved over to Traktor. They all agree Serato is more inuitive, better designed and more stable, but from their perspective the features that traktor ofer (better effects, midi out[ mainly, none of them use sync) outweigh all the pros for serato. THey would probably move over to SeratoDJ but none of them want to be tied down to these stock toy looking controllers that are on the market. They want the freedom do develop their own personalized midi solutions.
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LOL.. for the sake of argument, I would like to see some people post video of all the cool and innovative things you're doing live with all the extra tools you have at your disposal now. And when I say live I mean performing live at a club not live in your bedroom. (nm)
FabulousFrequencies 6:25 PM - 3 February, 2013
I like watching Enferno live remix using such tools, no idea if he does it in a show though:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Of the handful of producers I know that DJ as well, their general consensus is that it's safer to perfect things at home and drop them live as opposed to wrecking it live by accident. I can't say I blame them. I'm not sure it's entirely fair to ask for live examples when you take all the considerations into account. It's not that they don't have the skill to do it just as live at a show as they do at home, I think it's that remote chance you're gonna twitch or something and fuck it all up. They're still showcasing their talents and abilities to use the tools though.
thebuttonfreak 6:27 PM - 3 February, 2013
And people get get as mad as they want. The market Serato needs to please right now is the EDM market and try to regain a foothold in the European dance market. These markets want to use midi controllers, they don't want or need jogwheels and most of them still want to mix using their ears not sync.
thebuttonfreak 6:35 PM - 3 February, 2013
And the way Serato handles midi in is really nice. Doesn't take anywhere near as much effort as Traktor (as I learned yesterday). It honestly just needs midi out. If I could get one thing from the official Serato camp is a response as to what the reasoning is behind there refusal to implement midi out.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 6:39 PM - 3 February, 2013
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I like watching Enferno live remix using such tools, no idea if he does it in a show though:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yes Enferno does it live at his shows. Enferno isn't in here asking for features or complaing about limitations. He uses the tools he has at hand and does what he can with them. That's my whole point. It seems like most of you guys would rather have the bells and whistles and sacrfice stability.

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Of the handful of producers I know that DJ as well, their general consensus is that it's safer to perfect things at home and drop them live as opposed to wrecking it live by accident. I can't say I blame them. I'm not sure it's entirely fair to ask for live examples when you take all the considerations into account. It's not that they don't have the skill to do it just as live at a show as they do at home, I think it's that remote chance you're gonna twitch or something and fuck it all up. They're still showcasing their talents and abilities to use the tools though.

Not fair? LOL
Showcasing talent in your bedroom isn't the same as doing it live in front of a crowd. If you mess up then you mess up. That's part of being a LIVE DJ. If someone is scared to play out live because they're afraid you're gonna mess up then that person shouldn't be a DJ to begin. What's the point in practicing something if you're not gonna apply it to your live show?
thebuttonfreak 6:42 PM - 3 February, 2013
YA ok, the point is that the bedroom is the lab, the club is main event. You want the cutting edge than you go see what's going on in the lab, the stuff that isn't ready for primetime. Anyways tone of pro dance music guys in europe and the states are making are using controllers to rock crowds all over the world. Just look up a Ritchie Hawtin video.
thebuttonfreak 6:44 PM - 3 February, 2013
Shit is old news already. That's why people can't figure out why Serato is so behind the ball.
DJ DisGrace 6:45 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Anyways tone of pro dance music guys

at least you didn't call them djs...

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If you mess up then you mess up. That's part of being a LIVE DJ.

+100000
If I don't have at least one screw up per night, then I take it to mean I wasn't trying hard enough to push the boundaries, do something new, be creative
thebuttonfreak 6:46 PM - 3 February, 2013
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It seems like most of you guys would rather have the bells and whistles and sacrfice stability.
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Fair enough, but midi out at this stage is hardly a whistle, it's a tool that most pro djs are already using.
thebuttonfreak 6:48 PM - 3 February, 2013
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at least you didn't call them djs...
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Of course they are Dj's - They program their music selection in front of a crowd who dance to it if he/she is doing a good job. Get off my lawn djs are infinitely more lame at this stage.
thebuttonfreak 6:52 PM - 3 February, 2013
Here's Ritchie like 8 years ago...www.howtomakeonline.org
DJ Dynamite - NJ 6:52 PM - 3 February, 2013
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It seems like most of you guys would rather have the bells and whistles and sacrfice stability.
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Fair enough, but midi out at this stage is hardly a whistle, it's a tool that most pro djs are already using.

I'm pretty sure midi out is in the works. which is probably one of the reasons that Serato has moved to USB 2 on all of their audio interfaces.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 6:53 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Shit is old news already. That's why people can't figure out why Serato is so behind the ball.

Nothing wrong with being behind the ball... If they implement it and it doesn't work correctly then you guys would be bitching about how they rushed to do it
DJ Dynamite - NJ 6:54 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Anyways tone of pro dance music guys

at least you didn't call them djs...
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Of course they are Dj's - They program their music selection in front of a crowd who dance to it if he/she is doing a good job. Get off my lawn djs are infinitely more lame at this stage.

what's a "Get off my lawn DJ"?
thanks, I'm new
DJ Dynamite - NJ 6:56 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Here's Ritchie like 8 years ago...www.howtomakeonline.org

That's nice, but you're not Richie Hawtin... I'm waiting for people in this thread to post the videos of them pushing the boundaries and being innovative with all the bells and whistles. I haven't seen one yet. I just see posts of big name DJs that have been doing it for years.
thebuttonfreak 7:02 PM - 3 February, 2013
They moved over to usb 2 when they released sl3, which was quite some time ago. And the don't need usb2 to implement midi out. They haven't done it because of some strategic decision. What that might be is beyond comprehension.
FabulousFrequencies 7:06 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Yes Enferno does it live at his shows. Enferno isn't in here asking for features or complaing about limitations. He uses the tools he has at hand and does what he can with them. That's my whole point. It seems like most of you guys would rather have the bells and whistles and sacrfice stability.


I'm not part of that crowd, i'm just throwing another .02 at the convo. I think it's healthy to have varying perspectives in a thread. I'm very content with my setup and I feel creative enough on it. I can layer, mash, add samples and chain FX while recording it. Some people just like toys I guess *shrug*

I do however sympathize with the crowd that isn't getting light feedback to their controllers. On one hand you got people telling them not to stare at a laptop screen all night, and on the other hand they're forced to do it more often by this. If the lights are on the controller, they should work. Doesn't that seem reasonable?
DJ Dynamite - NJ 7:07 PM - 3 February, 2013
Well, it's open market. Give Traktor a try and if it works for what you need it to do then that's good for you. I'm done in this thread for now. I'll check in periodically to see if anybody actually posts a video, but I doubt that anybody will. Happy Superbowl Sunday!!
DJ DisGrace 7:07 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Anyways tone of pro dance music guys

at least you didn't call them djs...
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Of course they are Dj's - They program their music selection in front of a crowd who dance to it if he/she is doing a good job. Get off my lawn djs are infinitely more lame at this stage.

I would call them producers. But there are plenty of other threads for that distinction...
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Here's Ritchie like 8 years ago...www.howtomakeonline.org

That's nice, but you're not Richie Hawtin... I'm waiting for people in this thread to post the videos of them pushing the boundaries and being innovative with all the bells and whistles. I haven't seen one yet. I just see posts of big name DJs that have been doing it for years.

I'm with you on this one.
DeezNotes 7:23 PM - 3 February, 2013
GET OFF MY LAWN!
sixxx 7:41 PM - 3 February, 2013
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and i want midi out so that i can get visual feedback...


here's some visual feedback for you....




You suck!

nm
Mike_P 7:43 PM - 3 February, 2013
Lol!!!
AKIEM 7:44 PM - 3 February, 2013
Lighting buttons up.... Eh

Sending beat data, different story.
djaction 7:50 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Here's Ritchie like 8 years ago...www.howtomakeonline.org


why are you posting videos of other djs?
thebuttonfreak 7:52 PM - 3 February, 2013
to make a point about how long this midi stuff has been mainstream. I thought that was pretty clear.
Static2.0 8:00 PM - 3 February, 2013
Bottom freak or button freak -

Trying out stuff live in a club and possibly train wrecking badly would probably get u more props then "perfecting" it in your closet or bedroom.....

Just because u perfected it in the ur bedroom doesn't mean ur gonna do it perfectly in a club.... Club holds a lot of people, ur bedroom is empty, see my point.

Take AM for example, dude didn't give a fuck what ppl thought if he messed up a little here or there in the club or on radio, AND U CAN HEAR LITTLE OFF BEAT MISHAPS HERE & THERE IN HIS MIXES....

Who cares, we're human! Grow a pair and do it LIVE in the club!

NM
thebuttonfreak 8:09 PM - 3 February, 2013
um...ya, I'm sure you had a point in there somewhere. I've used controllers out to gigs for the last few years, before that I used Serato with tt's, before that I used records. And I've heard Dj AM mixes and just thought he was sloppy as fuck, I remember hearing Ztrip play mashup sets with no software in the late 90's and he was 10 times cleaner than AM. Maybe AM should have practiced in his bedroom more.
StevenWayne 8:21 PM - 3 February, 2013
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and i want midi out so that i can get visual feedback...


here's some visual feedback for you....




You suck!

nm


hahahaha
StevenWayne 8:23 PM - 3 February, 2013
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LOL.. for the sake of argument, I would like to see some people post video of all the cool and innovative things you're doing live with all the extra tools you have at your disposal now. And when I say live I mean performing live at a club not live in your bedroom. (nm)


i've always felt this way. peoples always asking for more features, but a lot of these features aren't being used in a real life scenario...aka, at a gig
the_black_one 8:25 PM - 3 February, 2013
midi out is not a perk.... its a must
thebuttonfreak 8:26 PM - 3 February, 2013
Ya, who the hell uses midi out at gigs in 2013.
sixxx 8:27 PM - 3 February, 2013
"And I've heard Dj AM mixes and just thought he was sloppy as fuck"

I agree. Every single live mix I've heard from him is damn right horrible. Dude couldn't scratch drop a beat to save his life.

Anyway... But to pretty little lights and shit.

nm
sixxx 8:28 PM - 3 February, 2013
But = back nm
StevenWayne 8:29 PM - 3 February, 2013
its not a must. djs have been rocking parties hard for many years without it. whatever happened to the days of two turntables and a microphone??
thebuttonfreak 8:30 PM - 3 February, 2013
Ya, and before that djs used to not have pitch control....oh the good old days.
AKIEM 8:35 PM - 3 February, 2013
Yes, and then the computer just went ahead and did the DJing for yous.
the_black_one 8:37 PM - 3 February, 2013
im still 2.3

the only way im updating is when midi out is implemented

if you want to go back to the days of 2 12's and a mic go right ahead.

BTW.... i still play on 12's and want midi out because i can use it to benefit my craft.
thebuttonfreak 8:38 PM - 3 February, 2013
You do realize all this is about is mapping features on the software to buttons on a controller. Sometimes I wonder if you guys understand that.
AKIEM 8:41 PM - 3 February, 2013
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You do realize all this is about is mapping features on the software to buttons on a controller. Sometimes I wonder if you guys understand that.

Uh yeah.

Who dosnt?
the_black_one 8:42 PM - 3 February, 2013
My thing is this...... if there is a technological advance that one can use for benefit.... why not use it..... i guess doctors should not have access to the cutting edge technology to save lives. Midi out is not new....... or cutting edge tech....
thebuttonfreak 8:42 PM - 3 February, 2013
Apparently you. You think it means that the computer is doing the djing for you.
AKIEM 8:45 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Apparently you. You think it means that the computer is doing the djing for you.


No. I don't. And have no idea why you think I would think such a thing.
sixxx 8:56 PM - 3 February, 2013
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You do realize all this is about is mapping features on the software to buttons on a controller. Sometimes I wonder if you guys understand that.



SMH

nm
StevenWayne 8:56 PM - 3 February, 2013
i don't even feel mixing is necessary. i just let one song end, then i cross the fader to the next song. all those extra features wouldn't benefit me at all.
thebuttonfreak 9:03 PM - 3 February, 2013
You might be able to get away with that if what you do is play the Smiths and stuff like that, but for playing house/techno etc... that a horrible idea.
thebuttonfreak 9:04 PM - 3 February, 2013
Maybe you don't but I'm bot so sure about sixxx.
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Apparently you. You think it means that the computer is doing the djing for you.


No. I don't. And have no idea why you think I would think such a thing.
StevenWayne 9:09 PM - 3 February, 2013
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You might be able to get away with that if what you do is play the Smiths and stuff like that, but for playing house/techno etc... that a horrible idea.



well, sometimes when i play house music like lmfao or black eyed peas and stuff, it works out fine. oh well, to each their own.
DJ Art Pumpin Payne 9:17 PM - 3 February, 2013
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You might be able to get away with that if what you do is play the Smiths and stuff like that, but for playing house/techno etc... that a horrible idea.


well, sometimes when i play house music like lmfao or black eyed peas and stuff, it works out fine. oh well, to each their own.


Isn't that where that pretty Sync button comes in handy on that controller?
thebuttonfreak 9:18 PM - 3 February, 2013
sync buttons are in the software. SSL doesn't come with one.
AKIEM 9:26 PM - 3 February, 2013
It's difficult for me to believe anyone would switch software over this feature. A button that lights up instead of not? Ha.

Second, the controllers I use can be set for 'momentary' or 'instant'. Meaning the light state is correct.

Should SSL have it, sure, and probably will.

But switching? Yeah right.

Nm
thebuttonfreak 9:34 PM - 3 February, 2013
Well it's a big enough deal for me to go ahead and try Traktor for a few weeks to get over the "it's new" feeling and see what I really think if it. Also the effects is SSL are terrible and almost totally unusable on a midi controller without light response.

And I don't think they will have it, regardless of how you feel about it, it's pretty indisputable that people are choosing Traktor over SSL in the forst place and that people are leaving SSL for Traktor. One of the main gripes and probably the most requested feature is midi out.
AKIEM 9:41 PM - 3 February, 2013
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Well it's a big enough deal for me to go ahead and try Traktor for a few weeks to get over the "it's new" feeling and see what I really think if it. Also the effects is SSL are terrible and almost totally unusable on a midi controller without light response.

And I don't think they will have it, regardless of how you feel about it, it's pretty indisputable that people are choosing Traktor over SSL in the forst place and that people are leaving SSL for Traktor. One of the main gripes and probably the most requested feature is midi out.


I think it's on it's way.

I can't imagine it being that important.

Other shit sure.

People are opting for Traktor because they want features SSL was not designed for. Seratos answer is Serato DJ - it's still young in the game.
AKIEM 9:43 PM - 3 February, 2013
...and I already made a thread for you: serato.com
thebuttonfreak 9:50 PM - 3 February, 2013
Yes, a clever thread I'll agree. But this isn't about making Serato like Traktor. THere our some serious advantages to using using Serato in an all midi setup, it has a much more tactile feel to it. For example the "fine pitch" allows you to mix with the same detail and flow you would on turntables, without having your mix sounding "too perfect" and lifeless, also the way Serato uses cues is much more intuitive. I (and I'm not the only one) are looking for a software that can be used with a controller that doesn't rob you of a tactile feel. This would bring something new to the game, not make it just like traktor.

I don't see how it's on it's way. People have been requesting it for years. Not a peep form Serato.
thebuttonfreak 9:51 PM - 3 February, 2013
And so what if SSL wasn't designed for it? Turntables certainly weren't designed for scratching.
thebuttonfreak 9:53 PM - 3 February, 2013
And they made the same mistake with SeratoDJ that they made with Itch, they make it handcuffed to lame gear. No serious dj wants that shit.
sixxx 9:56 PM - 3 February, 2013
"Also the effects is SSL are terrible"

So we go from pretty little lights to effects

Yup. Without those you can't be an awesome DJ.


Gotcha

nm
Static2.0 9:57 PM - 3 February, 2013
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um...ya, I'm sure you had a point in there somewhere. I've used controllers out to gigs for the last few years, before that I used Serato with tt's, before that I used records. And I've heard Dj AM mixes and just thought he was sloppy as fuck, I remember hearing Ztrip play mashup sets with no software in the late 90's and he was 10 times cleaner than AM. Maybe AM should have practiced in his bedroom more.


Wow ur entire post was sarcasm laced, I guess u can't take constructive criticism. All good, shows your age & maturity level...

And AM sloppy as fuck? I wouldn't go THAT far.... And Z-Trip would probably tell you he holds AM above himself.......

Whatever...

nm
Static2.0 10:01 PM - 3 February, 2013
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And they made the same mistake with SeratoDJ that they made with Itch, they make it handcuffed to lame gear. No serious dj wants that shit.


No serious DJ is a Button Pusher......

Traktor = Button Pushing

Serato = applicable with TT's & CDJ's

Just my honest opinion, NM
thebuttonfreak 10:01 PM - 3 February, 2013
I doubt Ztrip would say that, he's miles above AM. Maybe to be polite couse the dude is dead. And only the first line of my post was laced with sarcasm. I'm serious about AM being a shitty DJ.
thebuttonfreak 10:04 PM - 3 February, 2013
SSL effects are terrible, and no you don't need them to be a good dj, in fct most of the time they are overused. Modern music is already dripping with effects, but it's another reason people are choosing traktor.
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"Also the effects is SSL are terrible"

So we go from pretty little lights to effects

Yup. Without those you can't be an awesome DJ.


Gotcha

nm
Static2.0 10:10 PM - 3 February, 2013
Bro I could've just came out and been like stop being a pussy and try shit out live in public, not in ur bedroom.... But I didn't wanna to go there, the "2.0" on my name is there for a reason since I originally got kicked off for "not being nice."

People can't take criticism or advice that goes against their own opinions and beliefs, so when it happens people catch feelings etc.

U post in here, expect criticism, expect people not to like what ur saying, expect people to tear down your statements when you have no factual proof or evidence to back it....

You want people to take u seriously but ur bitching about the lack of SSL etc and u probably haven't even mastered everything in SSL.....

Least I can say for AM is to you he may have been a sloppy ass DJ, but he reached a place u will probably never see, opened tons of doors for other DJs, AND learned SSL inside & out and went to New Zealand and taught the CREATORS of this program plenty of shit they couldn't believe.....

But yea AM's sloppy and it's all bout effects and lights
Static2.0 10:10 PM - 3 February, 2013
^NM
Static2.0 10:11 PM - 3 February, 2013
Modern music is dropping with effects so people are choosing Traktor? Oh REEEEAAAAAALLY!?

nm
AKIEM 10:13 PM - 3 February, 2013
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And so what if SSL wasn't designed for it? Turntables certainly weren't designed for scratching.


Bad analogy.
Sometimes software will need a new framework if it is going to do shit that it was originally not designed for. Some things will work fine, and something's won't.

Likely itch was developed in order to facilitate midi better then just trying to glop it on top of SSL.

Software being cuffed to gear is piracy protection, licensing, and certification for better hardware/software integration and support. There are draw backs, and trade offs, but overall I think works better.

And most controllers are crap to me anyway.
eder 10:18 PM - 3 February, 2013
akiem you forgot your nm aka no midi at the end of your last post.
AKIEM 10:20 PM - 3 February, 2013
Lol 'no midi'

What's nh then?
DJ Dynamite - NJ 10:26 PM - 3 February, 2013
Just checkin back real quick... I see alot of posts in this thread since my last.. still no live video post though. Be back later (NM)
thebuttonfreak 10:28 PM - 3 February, 2013
You're the kind of guy who just hear what he wants to hear. Sorry I said AM was a shitty DJ, he was obviously very special to you.

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Bro I could've just came out and been like stop being a pussy and try shit out live in public, not in ur bedroom.... But I didn't wanna to go there, the "2.0" on my name is there for a reason since I originally got kicked off for "not being nice."

People can't take criticism or advice that goes against their own opinions and beliefs, so when it happens people catch feelings etc.

U post in here, expect criticism, expect people not to like what ur saying, expect people to tear down your statements when you have no factual proof or evidence to back it....

You want people to take u seriously but ur bitching about the lack of SSL etc and u probably haven't even mastered everything in SSL.....

Least I can say for AM is to you he may have been a sloppy ass DJ, but he reached a place u will probably never see, opened tons of doors for other DJs, AND learned SSL inside & out and went to New Zealand and taught the CREATORS of this program plenty of shit they couldn't believe.....

But yea AM's sloppy and it's all bout effects and lights
Static2.0 10:35 PM - 3 February, 2013
Button freak I'm glad u know what type of guy I am lol....... Ppl on here who know me & know me personally would tell u differently.

U sound like THAT guy, I'm Definetly opinionated but not THAT guy...

nm
Static2.0 10:37 PM - 3 February, 2013
Oh and u didn't hurt my feelings talking badly about a "sloppy" DJ who'd definitely DJ circles around you..... AM isn't special to me, but he's one of the few I respect.....

U should look Respect up in the dictionary sometime.

nm
AKIEM 10:39 PM - 3 February, 2013
lol - THAT guy -lol
DJ Dynamite - NJ 10:42 PM - 3 February, 2013
<--- THIS guy
THAT guy ---->
Static2.0 10:43 PM - 3 February, 2013
^
THAT GUY

nm
thebuttonfreak 10:45 PM - 3 February, 2013
Calm down Static, I'm sure AM is up in the sky playing mashups for all the dead celebs.
Static2.0 10:48 PM - 3 February, 2013
Oh I'm calm son, no need to talk to daddy like that, stay in ur lane.... LOL

nm
Static2.0 10:49 PM - 3 February, 2013
And shouldn't u be tucked away in ur closet pushing buttons and learning Traktor, we're all waiting for your response on how cool the lights and effects are on Traktor

nm
PorkyG 12:44 AM - 4 February, 2013
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Lol 'no midi'

What's nh then?


No headphones
djaction 3:35 PM - 4 February, 2013
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to make a point about how long this midi stuff has been mainstream. I thought that was pretty clear.


well post a video of how lack of MIDI OUT is killing your sets..
djaction 3:36 PM - 4 February, 2013
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Just checkin back real quick... I see alot of posts in this thread since my last.. still no live video post though. Be back later (NM)


+1
djaction 3:42 PM - 4 February, 2013
where did thebottomfreak go?
Daktyl 4:22 PM - 4 February, 2013
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To have have buttons light up on other controllers,


LMAO!

I remember when used to by rack components simply because they had pretty lights....

BBE Sonic Maximizers for example....

pretty is awesome! Derek puts out some dope shit...
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:23 PM - 4 February, 2013
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And AM sloppy as fuck? I wouldn't go THAT far....



Your not listening close enough then
Mr. Goodkat 5:20 PM - 4 February, 2013
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And AM sloppy as fuck? I wouldn't go THAT far....



Your not listening close enough then



thats the thing, we can overanalyze the dude, and say he's sloppy, but at the speed and and level of creativeness (comparatively to all the other guys doing the same thing), he's still dope. you can judge and criticize, but he's not trying to impress or entertain a turntablist or techno crowd. you can be sloppy. its like someone playing division II college fundamental basketball or someone playing and1(or whatever its called now). which one is more fun even if its 'sloppy'?
sixxx 5:42 PM - 4 February, 2013
Don't justify AM's sloppiness. Nm
sixxx 5:43 PM - 4 February, 2013
lol @ bottomfreak nm
Audio1 5:45 PM - 4 February, 2013
AM has been dead for over 3 years and fools are still bringing his name up?
Mr. Goodkat 5:52 PM - 4 February, 2013
fools are still jealous.
Mike_P 5:53 PM - 4 February, 2013
This thread delivers. :)
DJ Dynamite - NJ 6:09 PM - 4 February, 2013
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AM has been dead for over 3 years and fools are still bringing his name up?

That just goes to show how much this DJ game is lacking right now... I blame controllers and sync buttons SMH (nm)
FabulousFrequencies 6:28 PM - 4 February, 2013
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That just goes to show how much this DJ game is lacking right now... I blame controllers and sync buttons SMH (nm)


I blame Grandmaster Flash for promoting button pushing practices..

www.flickr.com

::: Runs :::
Mr. Goodkat 6:35 PM - 4 February, 2013
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AM has been dead for over 3 years and fools are still bringing his name up?

That just goes to show how much this DJ game is lacking right now... I blame controllers and sync buttons SMH (nm)


exactly, have you seen some of the kids these days? someone posted a video of a dj on my fb timeline who has been djing(by her own admission) for a little more than a year. she was 'killing it' she mixed 3 songs in about 3.5 minutes.

Sloppy or not, AM was a beacon that most people could access, even with limited knowledge of dj'ing, and see that he was doing a little more than fading between top 40 tracks. To advanced djs, he was sloppy and limited, to people that pay money to go to a club on the weekend or in vegas, he was something special. He was a person that bridged the gap between performance dj'ing and a dude playing songs that would have been normally reserved for weddings or the crappiest of top 40 clubs. It may not have been something special in SF or LA or big cities with tons of djs, but for most of america, it was kind of a paradigm shift from either all house nights in a club or someone with a jukebox/mp3 player running in the background at a bar.

his popularity, whether because he was the worst dj and dated a celebrity, broke open a lot of places that weren't really open to djs prior to his rise in popularity(for better or worse)..

its says something that people went out of their way to copy and pick apart his routines, because every other guy in that genre has mixes out there and nobodies been rushing to copy them. Outside of a few peoples stabs at z-trip mash up or jazzy jeff's scratch routine.
Joshua Carl 7:14 PM - 4 February, 2013
djaction 7:39 PM - 4 February, 2013
Video of Sadsfre actually using MIDI as a turntablist

[LINK REMOVED]

thebottomfreak will you please post one so we can see how not having MIDI is killing your sets?
sixxx 8:26 PM - 4 February, 2013
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AM has been dead for over 3 years and fools are still bringing his name up?


I could say the same about other fallen DJs like Solomon and Nemoc. What's your point?

AM was sloppy. Period.

nm
sixxx 8:28 PM - 4 February, 2013
And when you guys die I'm still gonna talk about how much AM cock you guys sucked.

nm
Mr. Goodkat 9:05 PM - 4 February, 2013
for what he did, and how big he did it, you can't knock his hustle.

or you can just keep playing silky johnston.
sixxx 9:09 PM - 4 February, 2013
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for what he did, and how big he did it, you can't knock his hustle.

or you can just keep playing silky johnston.


No one is knocking his hustle. It's funny to me how people try to justify things. The fact is the dude 'WAS SLOPPY' - and yes, I'm going by all the mixes I've heard so far that were live. If you're sloppy, you're sloppy. Period. It doesn't take away from anything else. I don't know why you guys (who defend him) think it does.
Joshua Carl 9:17 PM - 4 February, 2013
was def the case,
but maybe its some strange mis-guided case of nostalgia I like hearing things a lil rough around the edges.... not bad, but rough, a lil sloppy
not all quantized redrums, and the non-perfect recording environments.

I hear alot of mixes that are pretty much perfect.
thing is, by no fault/praise of the user... they lay out a simple ableton mix and then its off to the races with the polishing.

I remember pciking up rectangle mixes and thinking he did all that in one take.

but to think AMs stuff was musical perfection isnt listing.
not taking anything away from his greatness, but you cant ignore the elephant in the room becuase you love the dude.
look at Rocky Marciano... he was rough around the edges too... still one of the greatest ever.

Watchwww.youtube.com

yeah, a white dude just brought up rocky marciano
Mr. Goodkat 9:20 PM - 4 February, 2013
so am was the sloppiest dj you've ever heard, he sucks, and we are all sucking his cock.

if you take chances and play 30-50 records in an hour, i just think the odds of mixing it perfectly are very slim. sloppy and bad is your take, i hear it, but its not sloppy to me in an annoying or bad way.

When im looking for perfect blends or mixes, its generally for house/techno/uptempo edm that is supposed to be mixed and made for such purposes.
sixxx 9:21 PM - 4 February, 2013
I totally understand the whole perfect mix that is multi-tracked. That's not even what I was talking about. I'm talking about transition, after transition where he scratched in a beat and it was waaaaay off, then he quickly fixed it. And yes, I know that sometimes can happen but I heard that over and over and over even back to back on transitions on all his mixes I heard that were recorded live. I even questioned if he was high at the time he recorded those.

I love "rough around the edges". I think it adds to a mix. However, trainwrecking because you can't scratch drop a song on beat quite often takes away from a mix.

IN MY OPINION.
sixxx 9:22 PM - 4 February, 2013
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so am was the sloppiest dj you've ever heard, he sucks, and we are all sucking his cock.

if you take chances and play 30-50 records in an hour, i just think the odds of mixing it perfectly are very slim. sloppy and bad is your take, i hear it, but its not sloppy to me in an annoying or bad way.

When im looking for perfect blends or mixes, its generally for house/techno/uptempo edm that is supposed to be mixed and made for such purposes.


Again, not what I"m talking about. One of these days when I have the time I'm going to go over one of his mixes transition per transition so you can see what I'm talking about.

But for now... I will leave it as is.

I think he was worst than sloppy. You guys think he was the best.

nm
Joshua Carl 9:23 PM - 4 February, 2013
not everything needs to be black and white, left or right, all or nothing.
sixxx 9:26 PM - 4 February, 2013
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not everything needs to be black and white, left or right, all or nothing.


I refuse to give in to conformity though. nm
Mr. Goodkat 9:27 PM - 4 February, 2013
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was def the case,
not bad, but rough, a lil sloppy
not all quantized redrums, and the non-perfect recording environments.

I hear alot of mixes that are pretty much perfect.
thing is, by no fault/praise of the user... they lay out a simple ableton mix and then its off to the races with the polishing.

I remember pciking up rectangle mixes and thinking he did all that in one take.

but to think AMs stuff was musical perfection isnt listing.
not taking anything away from his greatness, but you cant ignore the elephant in the room becuase you love the dude.



i agree with this, i don't necessarily love the dude, but its sure seems that a lot of what im hearing in these redbull 3styles in every city is as sloppy and/or not as creative as what am was doing 5-7 years ago.

ive seen interviews where he admits to being off and being sloppy at times.

you gotta think that a lot of things are recorded in environments where he gets thrown into a situation with a 15 min sound check or no sound check at all. maybe thats part of being a better dj than him, but travelling 5 days a week, playing in different venues with huge rooms and huge soundsystems could throw anyone off.
Mr. Goodkat 9:29 PM - 4 February, 2013
well, give us an example of a LIVE dj mix that is similar to his and show me where they did what he doesnt do. I'm curious to see the difference.
djaction 9:29 PM - 4 February, 2013
YO STFU THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT HOW SLOPPY OR GAY SIXXX IS.

it's about MIDI..

and how if thebottomfreak had it.. it would radically change his sets..
sixxx 9:36 PM - 4 February, 2013
"you gotta think that a lot of things are recorded in environments where he gets thrown into a situation with a 15 min sound check or no sound check at all. maybe thats part of being a better dj than him, but travelling 5 days a week, playing in different venues with huge rooms and huge soundsystems could throw anyone off. "

Again, the justification is always there.

You'd think doing something so much would make you perfect it just by repetition alone.
sixxx 9:37 PM - 4 February, 2013
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well, give us an example of a LIVE dj mix that is similar to his and show me where they did what he doesnt do. I'm curious to see the difference.


Again... here we go...

How about YOU just listen to his mix, notice when he scratches then drops a song and YOU can tell yourself it's on beat. Most of the time, it won't be.

I'm not talking about anyone else's mixes. nm
Mr. Goodkat 9:37 PM - 4 February, 2013
am needed midi out :(
AKIEM 9:39 PM - 4 February, 2013
NM
sixxx 9:42 PM - 4 February, 2013
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NM


Yup.

NM
Joshua Carl 9:45 PM - 4 February, 2013
Brazzers needs midi out
sixxx 9:47 PM - 4 February, 2013
Sorry guys. In an effort to not derail this thread any further, I've created a new thread.

I also broke down about 15 minutes from one of AM's mixes.
As you will see, he fucks up about 15 times... in 15 minutes!!!!!!

serato.com
DJ GaFFle 9:50 PM - 4 February, 2013
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so am was the sloppiest dj you've ever heard, he sucks, and we are all sucking his cock.

if you take chances and play 30-50 records in an hour, i just think the odds of mixing it perfectly are very slim. sloppy and bad is your take, i hear it, but its not sloppy to me in an annoying or bad way.

When im looking for perfect blends or mixes, its generally for house/techno/uptempo edm that is supposed to be mixed and made for such purposes.


Again, not what I"m talking about. One of these days when I have the time I'm going to go over one of his mixes transition per transition so you can see what I'm talking about.

But for now... I will leave it as is.

I think he was worst than sloppy. You guys think he was the best.

nm

I agree... well, maybe not "worst than sloppy" but very sloppy with that same redundant scratch pattern. Kid Capri... same category (very sloppy) but both were pretty dope overall considering they make/made up for their inefficiencies in great ways. Kid Capri with musical knowledge, mic control and party rocking ability... DJ AM with creativity.

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LOL.. for the sake of argument, I would like to see some people post video of all the cool and innovative things you're doing live with all the extra tools you have at your disposal now. And when I say live I mean performing live at a club not live in your bedroom. (nm)

LOL... this is what I think whenever I hear these guys begging for 'features'. I hope Serato never caters to the button pusher types. Buttons are made for Jukeboxes.
FabulousFrequencies 9:59 PM - 4 February, 2013
MIDI is a comm protocol. The SL boxes use a comm protocol too. They're both digital.

I think there is MIDI racism in this thread..

NR
sixxx 10:01 PM - 4 February, 2013
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MIDI is a comm protocol. The SL boxes use a comm protocol too. They're both digital.

I think there is MIDI racism in this thread..

NR



lol

NMR
DJ GaFFle 10:08 PM - 4 February, 2013
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MIDI is a comm protocol. The SL boxes use a comm protocol too. They're both digital.

I think there is MIDI racism in this thread..

NR

I wouldn't say I have a MIDI prejudice, I'm kind of just anti bedroom-performer DJ as it pertains to Scratchlive's feature set. I look at your avatar with all the keyboards and sparkly flashy lights and know that stuff has no place in the club or at common gigs. That stuff is for bedroom DJs/producers and people who want to make 5 minute Youtube showcase vids. Sure, you have the performers like Enferno who make quick work and dope mixes for large crowds but he's not typical. No knock on you but I like Serato Scratchlive as is. Keep it solid and stable with great effects and I'm happy. (nm)
Joshua Carl 10:24 PM - 4 February, 2013
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Sorry guys. In an effort to not derail this thread any further, I've created a new thread.

I also broke down about 15 minutes from one of AM's mixes.
As you will see, he fucks up about 15 times... in 15 minutes!!!!!!

serato.com


Where? That link rolls right back here
Did I just get sixxxrolled?
djaction 10:28 PM - 4 February, 2013
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Quote:
Sorry guys. In an effort to not derail this thread any further, I've created a new thread.

I also broke down about 15 minutes from one of AM's mixes.
As you will see, he fucks up about 15 times... in 15 minutes!!!!!!

serato.com


Where? That link rolls right back here
Did I just get sixxxrolled?


the site's been acting up. try the link again.
sixxx 10:28 PM - 4 February, 2013
Oh man. My bad. I must've copied the link wrong.

Here you go:

serato.com
Mr. Goodkat 10:35 PM - 4 February, 2013
ill listen to this soundcloud.com

and this

djsixxx.info

and try to recognize the greatness that is sixxx.
sixxx 10:44 PM - 4 February, 2013
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ill listen to this soundcloud.com

and this

djsixxx.info

and try to recognize the greatness that is sixxx.


Won't be sloppy I'll tell you that.

Now, if you want to listen to a "live" mix and then compare apples to apples, then you may want to dig deeper.

I love stalkers :)

nm
sixxx 10:48 PM - 4 February, 2013
Here. I'll make it easier for you. Listen to all my radio mixes on the same page. Those are all recorded live in one take. They're not the greatest music (as they're for radio following a format) but, again, you won't find the kind of sloppiness you hear on AM mixes. :)
FabulousFrequencies 10:53 PM - 4 February, 2013
I'm only 6 minutes into AM's mix and he's already ruined the time domain of the flow and wrecked more than once. I do like AM though, but mainly for his creativity. He had a habit of pulling shit out of his ass all the time and I don't think that should go overlooked or under appreciated. Sixxx's stuff doesn't strike me as very risky, but it is very clean and that too deserves something. Feels a lot like we're arguing oranges and apples when you look at the styles though.

I just wanna know if all the lights work on your shit.. lulz..
Mr. Goodkat 10:57 PM - 4 February, 2013
everytime kobe or lebron goe 8-27 and score 32 pts in 38 mins. im sure fans think they killed it. if you know hoops you know they shot 33% and had a off game. still rather see kobe go for wild shots and throw down a dunk or two, than a perfect 5-5 from matt bonner, playing fundamental basketball. but to each his own. your mixes are clean, but fairly boring and nothing in couldn't do in ableton with little or no editing. which is generally how i do mine, so im not judgeing (in ableton and live).

anyway, midi out1!!
Mr. Goodkat 10:58 PM - 4 February, 2013
Everytime kobe or lebron goe 8-27 and score 32 pts in 38 mins, im sure fans think they killed it. If you know hoops you know they shot 33% and had a off game.

Still rather see kobe go for wild shots and throw down a dunk or two, than a perfect 5-5 from Matt Bonner, playing fundamental basketball. but to each his own. your mixes are clean, but fairly boring and nothing in couldn't do in ableton with little or no editing. which is generally how i do mine, so im not judgeing (in ableton and live).

anyway, midi out1!!
Joshua Carl 10:59 PM - 4 February, 2013
yeah those links are taking me back here.... site must be jacked up

Its directing to a log you out, then bringing you back here:
serato.com/logout?redirect=%2Fforum%2Fdiscussion%2F906869
sixxx 10:59 PM - 4 February, 2013
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I'm only 6 minutes into AM's mix and he's already ruined the time domain of the flow and wrecked more than once. I do like AM though, but mainly for his creativity. He had a habit of pulling shit out of his ass all the time and I don't think that should go overlooked or under appreciated. Sixxx's stuff doesn't strike me as very risky, but it is very clean and that too deserves something. Feels a lot like we're arguing oranges and apples when you look at the styles though.

I just wanna know if all the lights work on your shit.. lulz..


Exactly. First of all, he's comparing two different things for the sake of argument. lol
He just didn't dig deep enough. I say if you really want to catch what I'm capable of, you'd have to catch a live hip hop show - those are rare now though so good luck. lol
sixxx 11:01 PM - 4 February, 2013
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Everytime kobe or lebron goe 8-27 and score 32 pts in 38 mins, im sure fans think they killed it. If you know hoops you know they shot 33% and had a off game.

Still rather see kobe go for wild shots and throw down a dunk or two, than a perfect 5-5 from Matt Bonner, playing fundamental basketball. but to each his own. your mixes are clean, but fairly boring and nothing in couldn't do in ableton with little or no editing. which is generally how i do mine, so im not judgeing (in ableton and live).

anyway, midi out1!!


Are you even aware of what you linked? That's a club mix - for the sheep. nm
Joshua Carl 11:01 PM - 4 February, 2013
Ive always said that trying to evaluate dj sets is like judging diving.
you cant just take into consideration 1 aspect, without weighing the difficulty factor for the performance.

but theres opinions, and facts.
people seem to get the 2 crossed up sometimes (myself included)
Mr. Goodkat 11:06 PM - 4 February, 2013
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Ive always said that trying to evaluate dj sets is like judging diving.
you cant just take into consideration 1 aspect, without weighing the difficulty factor for the performance.

but theres opinions, and facts.
people seem to get the 2 crossed up sometimes (myself included)


no ones perfect, except sixxx. we havent seen what he can do, basic mixing, and criticize others for being off trying to do something other than mix hip hop records like house records. ive seen kids mix for 6 months do the mixes thats on the 2 mixes sixxx has posted. not bad. nothing more than basic shit. which isnt bad. but if your gonna criticize be above avg.

ive seen tons of guys on here be way above average. this isnt one of those moments.
FabulousFrequencies 11:06 PM - 4 February, 2013
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yeah those links are taking me back here.... site must be jacked up

Its directing to a log you out, then bringing you back here:
serato.com/logout?redirect=%2Fforum%2Fdiscussion%2F906869


Site's fine, he just pulled a fairly decent link troll. If you log out from a discussion thread, it takes you back to the thread in read only mode basically.. LOL.
Mr. Goodkat 11:06 PM - 4 February, 2013
the 2 mixxes that i listened to for the sheep rather. he did not post them. ones on the radio, ones from home i guess.
sixxx 11:07 PM - 4 February, 2013
Quote:
Ive always said that trying to evaluate dj sets is like judging diving.
you cant just take into consideration 1 aspect, without weighing the difficulty factor for the performance.

but theres opinions, and facts.
people seem to get the 2 crossed up sometimes (myself included)


I agree. I think everyone has their own style so if you notice, I don't knock his style or his creativity whatsoever.
Joshua Carl 11:08 PM - 4 February, 2013
im always gullible for shit like that....oh well.
sixxx 11:09 PM - 4 February, 2013
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Quote:
Ive always said that trying to evaluate dj sets is like judging diving.
you cant just take into consideration 1 aspect, without weighing the difficulty factor for the performance.

but theres opinions, and facts.
people seem to get the 2 crossed up sometimes (myself included)


no ones perfect, except sixxx. we havent seen what he can do, basic mixing, and criticize others for being off trying to do something other than mix hip hop records like house records. ive seen kids mix for 6 months do the mixes thats on the 2 mixes sixxx has posted. not bad. nothing more than basic shit. which isnt bad. but if your gonna criticize be above avg.

ive seen tons of guys on here be way above average. this isnt one of those moments.


Hahaha. Goes to show that

a) you're getting emotional

b) you really don't know much about me cause you think all I mix is hip hop records

c) you're getting emotional
sixxx 11:10 PM - 4 February, 2013
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the 2 mixxes that i listened to for the sheep rather. he did not post them. ones on the radio, ones from home i guess.


I don't have to post anything. They're all on my site. You're the one diggin' stalker. Keep diggin'... if you dig deep enough, you'll find more mixes by me. And not just on my website.

:)
sixxx 11:11 PM - 4 February, 2013
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im always gullible for shit like that....oh well.



Damn it. I was trying to see how long it would take until HE figured it out. :)
nm
FabulousFrequencies 11:16 PM - 4 February, 2013
Sorry :(

I get emotional every time I see a MIDI controller in 'disco mode'

Watchwww.youtube.com

& my fav

Watchwww.youtube.com

Makes me weep for those without MIDI out ;`(
thebuttonfreak 11:21 PM - 4 February, 2013
Damn, this thread got derailed like one of AM's mixes.
sixxx 11:21 PM - 4 February, 2013
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Damn, this thread got derailed like one of AM's mixes.


lol
Joshua Carl 11:21 PM - 4 February, 2013
Im a man who enjoys his flashy flashy.

I painted my decks.
I got a white Turntable watch.
even got the white ipad to match my decks for lemur.
I saw the new shiny shiny pioneer gear at namm and got all warm and fuzzy
(even never owning any pioneer gear, cept a efx)

but those videos made me sick.
why?
is it like pong?
just to make people go...OOOOOOOOOOOOH!
i mean, do people actually play with that on??




BACK ON TRACK------------------------------------------------->
HOWS THAT SWITCH GOING?
thebuttonfreak 11:30 PM - 4 February, 2013
I worked on a mapping most of saturday for my livid block. I'm still trying to figure traktor out though so I didn't get that far. I did finally figure out how to map the pitch bend the way I wanted, it was easy but it took me a while. The problem is the resolution on the pitch adjust isn't high enough to mix like I do using SSL and my controller. That's a bummer will probably be enough to make me switch back, but I'll give it a few weeks like I said. It's noce having visual feedback though, especially on effects. The sound is ok but it all sounds a bit flat coming out. I'm using the internal mixer though and haven't tried using a real mixer. I'll try and get to that later this week.
FabulousFrequencies 11:31 PM - 4 February, 2013
I feel ya Josh, I mod all my shit. Gear slut to the core. Just demonstrating what most people end up doing with MIDI out and Traktor.. LOL. That said, Traktor DOES get a lot of custom map lovin from the community. I only wish for MIDI re-map itself, because I have buttons I just don't use for shit on my stuff. Even if I could map them to something I wouldn't have to use the keyboard for any more, i'd be thrilled. Supposedly this is coming, but I don't recall reading if we'll be able to reassign the 'core' hardware, or simply map additional hardware.

Is this really whats bothering you, button? You not getting LED feedback?
thebuttonfreak 11:33 PM - 4 February, 2013
Mainly the feedback. The effects are terrible in SSL too.
DeezNotes 11:35 PM - 4 February, 2013
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the 2 mixxes that i listened to for the sheep rather. he did not post them. ones on the radio, ones from home i guess.


I don't have to post anything. They're all on my site. You're the one diggin' stalker. Keep diggin'... if you dig deep enough, you'll find more mixes by me. And not just on my website.

:)

I for one would love a link to some live mixes. I'm not going to dig for them though. Post 'em up!
FabulousFrequencies 11:35 PM - 4 February, 2013
You don't have a system profile.. I assume you're trying to use an outboard controller with an SL box or something? What's the deal exactly?
thebuttonfreak 11:37 PM - 4 February, 2013
I have an sl3 and an mp2016. I use a livid block right now, I'd like to get a ohm64 or a cntrl:r, but the block will have to do. You can set up the block to have the lights stay on but with no midi out you can't get them to talk to SSL. So no flashing light to tell you effect 1 is on deck 1 etc...
sixxx 11:37 PM - 4 February, 2013
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the 2 mixxes that i listened to for the sheep rather. he did not post them. ones on the radio, ones from home i guess.


I don't have to post anything. They're all on my site. You're the one diggin' stalker. Keep diggin'... if you dig deep enough, you'll find more mixes by me. And not just on my website.

:)

I for one would love a link to some live mixes. I'm not going to dig for them though. Post 'em up!


Is that cause you've heard great things? lol

nm
FabulousFrequencies 11:39 PM - 4 February, 2013
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I have an sl3 and an mp2016. I use a livid block right now, I'd like to get a ohm64 or a cntrl:r, but the block will have to do. You can set up the block to have the lights stay on but with no midi out you can't get them to talk to SSL. So no flashing light to tell you effect 1 is on deck 1 etc...


I'm completely no0b in the bridge area, but wouldn't ableton and the bridge essentially allow you to midi map in/out all the outboard controllers and then just bridge to ssl? That certainly opens up a lot of creative blocks too.
DeezNotes 11:40 PM - 4 February, 2013
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the 2 mixxes that i listened to for the sheep rather. he did not post them. ones on the radio, ones from home i guess.


I don't have to post anything. They're all on my site. You're the one diggin' stalker. Keep diggin'... if you dig deep enough, you'll find more mixes by me. And not just on my website.

:)

I for one would love a link to some live mixes. I'm not going to dig for them though. Post 'em up!


Is that cause you've heard great things? lol

nm

And you know this. MAN.
thebuttonfreak 11:44 PM - 4 February, 2013
No, it allows you to map ableton using in/out but not SSL features with out. You're basically just running to programs with only ableton sending midi but both programs receiving it.
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I have an sl3 and an mp2016. I use a livid block right now, I'd like to get a ohm64 or a cntrl:r, but the block will have to do. You can set up the block to have the lights stay on but with no midi out you can't get them to talk to SSL. So no flashing light to tell you effect 1 is on deck 1 etc...


I'm completely no0b in the bridge area, but wouldn't ableton and the bridge essentially allow you to midi map in/out all the outboard controllers and then just bridge to ssl? That certainly opens up a lot of creative blocks too.
FabulousFrequencies 11:49 PM - 4 February, 2013
Wait.. I might not be envisioning this right. So you're actually trying to use the sl3 with the block and NO decks? The block is basically a deck, like here: Watchwww.youtube.com ?

I was thinking block -> ableton -> bridge to ssl w/decks -> mission complete. Now i'm thinking you're using this is a primary controller.
Logisticalstyles 12:06 AM - 5 February, 2013
I can actually appreciate thebuttonpusher's desire for MIDI out in respect to the LEDs. For example on the Denon DN HC100 the lights only work with the factory settings on the first MIDI page. I used the second MIDI page for my effects and a third page for other Scratch Live controls. When I'm on the pages I programmed I get no visual feedback and it slows me down trying to figure out which page I'm on and which effects are engaged. I've pretty much quit using those MIDI pages because it's slower and more cumbersome than just using the keyboard shortcuts. MIDI out would be helpful for something like this. It's not enough to cause me to jump ship or start an online petition, but it would be helpful.
FabulousFrequencies 12:09 AM - 5 February, 2013
I was just actually looking at these things, and they seem like really neat open source controller offerings. here is the block with ableton live Watchwww.youtube.com and it seems to LOVE it. Perhaps he should put away the SL box and SSL and go this route. I can see how having that many buttons on a non-silkscreened faceplate would drive you nuts trying to remember what you're activating and what's on.. LOL. Neat shit.. Best of luck with it.
thebuttonfreak 12:12 AM - 5 February, 2013
That's right. I have an all controller setup. No decks. I own a pair and do play ska/rocksteady sets on it but that's a different thing from my dance music set up.
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Wait.. I might not be envisioning this right. So you're actually trying to use the sl3 with the block and NO decks? The block is basically a deck, like here: Watchwww.youtube.com ?

I was thinking block -> ableton -> bridge to ssl w/decks -> mission complete. Now i'm thinking you're using this is a primary controller.
Joshua Carl 12:12 AM - 5 February, 2013
Is it wrong that the only thing I took away from that video is how to pin your mixer in the red?


Lol, Jk
I guess when you basically replacing a deck, and a potential native midi controller, midi out would be needed...because with 50 identical buttons who knows wtf is goin on!

At the same time pretty much all that (performance wise) can be accomplished with a nano-Kontrol
thebuttonfreak 12:13 AM - 5 February, 2013
I guess the reason I go this route is so I can still beatmix the way I did on decks. I like doing this, I think it adds something to the overall flavor of my sets and keeps me engaged in a way that just pressing play on pre beatmixed tracks just doesn't for me.
sixxx 12:33 AM - 5 February, 2013
" Is it wrong that the only thing I took away from that video is how to pin your mixer in the red?"

lol
Mr. Goodkat 12:33 AM - 5 February, 2013
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Ive always said that trying to evaluate dj sets is like judging diving.
you cant just take into consideration 1 aspect, without weighing the difficulty factor for the performance.

but theres opinions, and facts.
people seem to get the 2 crossed up sometimes (myself included)


no ones perfect, except sixxx. we havent seen what he can do, basic mixing, and criticize others for being off trying to do something other than mix hip hop records like house records. ive seen kids mix for 6 months do the mixes thats on the 2 mixes sixxx has posted. not bad. nothing more than basic shit. which isnt bad. but if your gonna criticize be above avg.

ive seen tons of guys on here be way above average. this isnt one of those moments.


Hahaha. Goes to show that

a) you're getting emotional

b) you really don't know much about me cause you think all I mix is hip hop records

c) you're getting emotional


those mixes couldnt get me emotional. i could got to sleep however.

i don't know much about you, im just listening to a couple average mixes. i never said all you mixed was hip hop records.
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keep giving traktor a try, i'm still giving it a go and got the Z2 mixer. i dig it alot, ssl is still what i use out, just seems like ssl is more like actual dj'ing and TS takes a different mind set altogether. The visual ques are what throw me off live, like the colored/played tracks and the turntables and the vertical grids. it just seems quicker and easier, but its getting easier. Also seems like traktor would be better on a 15-17 inch screen, feels cramped on my 13.
FabulousFrequencies 12:37 AM - 5 February, 2013
Well.. Here's the deal. Serato is a proprietary control software designed to work with it's partners products. They guarantee nothing outside of that and don't even work correctly all the time for the products WITHIN that scope.. LOL. I can see your plea to step up to the features others are offering, but at the same time they don't have to because it's not part of their model. They simply have to provide function for their partners products, of which livid is not one. I DO however agree 100% that since they DID advertise the ability to map secondary controllers that should include in AND out interfacing. I still think you have enough buttons to go 6-7 tracks in Ableton with fx.. LOL.
thebuttonfreak 12:58 AM - 5 February, 2013
I appreciate that SSL was not created to be used this way. And you certainly can map secondary controllers on it, you just can't get midi out of serato. I just think it's a really neat way to use SSL, regardless of it's intent. The midi out thing is useful for a lot if people, not just me. It just happens to be the one thing I need to make my setup ideal. And I like ableton for production but I want to mix the old fashioned way, with my ears and nothing in ableton allows me to do this. With SSL I can actually turn my controller into a hands on tool for playing around with the wav files. It's pretty cool. I don't think people appreciate just how far this idea can go in SSL and how cool it can be.
djaction 1:29 AM - 5 February, 2013
^post a video of how lack of midi out is "killing your sets"

k. thx. bye.
Dj Nyce 2:17 AM - 5 February, 2013
i think midi is a basic feature that any dvs should have in 2013. and if you are going to implement it, don't do it half assed.

back to traktor...

if you have been using ssl for along time, it is is extremely difficult to do things in traktor.

things i hate...
they way you have to add things to the collection. when you load a track that isn't in the collection it plays but it's not added to your collection until you right-click on it. you can get around it with the auto-import on startup option tho.

the remix decks are so powerful that simple things like dj drops are complicated. for instance you can load your drops in the remix decks and save it as a remix set, but you have to re-load the remix set everytime you start traktor.

the 'crate' section is just stupid. and if you use itunes smart playlists it's like you have to do things twice. add to collection and navigate back to the itunes smart playlist.

no 'smart' playlists. all playlists have to be populated manually

things i like...
the midi implementation is extremely powerful
midi out *including midi clock
effects
auto-import music automatically
custom layouts
remix decks
loop recorder
beat jump, loop move
time code is just as good as scratch live

its refreshing to see the other side. i'm not saying i'm jumping ship, but it is fun trying something new.

still got a lot to read up on. the manual has like 600 pages.
Mr. Goodkat 3:07 AM - 5 February, 2013
''time code is just as good as scratch live''

did you notice the cvs tend to warp more easily than ssl? especially the new ssl performance vinyl?
DJ GaFFle 11:29 AM - 5 February, 2013
I wonder if Traktor guys make threats to jump ship to Scratchlive and what their reasons are.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:30 PM - 5 February, 2013
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ive seen kids mix for 6 months do the mixes thats on the 2 mixes sixxx has posted. not bad. .

Say that 5 times fast
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:36 PM - 5 February, 2013
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^post a video of how lack of midi out is "killing your sets"

k. thx. bye.

Ya post a video showing a feature that dosent exist is ruining the performance you cant do without the nonexistant feature.....facepalm
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:40 PM - 5 February, 2013
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100% WRONG!! Serato os not a proprietary control software, its a company located in narnia.
Dj Nyce 3:26 PM - 5 February, 2013
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''time code is just as good as scratch live''

did you notice the cvs tend to warp more easily than ssl? especially the new ssl performance vinyl?


i've only had traktor for a few months. so far the cv's seem to be just as sturdy as the new ssl ones. they weigh about the same and work extremely well with butter rugs and dr suzuki's.

i've used the timecode cd too and it works just fine. although i prefer it in hid mode (cdj-2000/cdj-2000 nexus).
jprime 5:48 PM - 5 February, 2013
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^post a video of how lack of midi out is "killing your sets"

k. thx. bye.

Ya post a video showing a feature that dosent exist is ruining the performance you cant do without the nonexistant feature.....facepalm


lol...was thinking the same. :)
Joshua Carl 7:05 PM - 5 February, 2013
"You see what I could have done right here if I had midi out was..."
djaction 7:09 PM - 5 February, 2013
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^post a video of how lack of midi out is "killing your sets"

k. thx. bye.

Ya post a video showing a feature that dosent exist is ruining the performance you cant do without the nonexistant feature.....facepalm


exactly. his whole argument is about as stupid as this fucking thread.
djaction 7:10 PM - 5 February, 2013
lack of MIDI out isn't killing anyones sets.. and until we see video of him 'performing' i'm fairly certain it isn't hindering him as a DJ
PorkyG 7:14 PM - 5 February, 2013
Watchwww.youtube.com

Proof midi out is needed.
the_black_one 7:29 PM - 5 February, 2013
I get a lot of you are defending SL for not implementing MIDI out and your main point it's "HOW IS IT THAT NOT HAVING MIDI OUT IS KILLING YOUR PERFORMANCE?"

it's not so much as killing a performance to me. it's the things that i can do if i had midi out that can complement my performance. The software needs to evolve because if not, it becomes a dinosaur. I'm not defending the buttonfreak dude, I can really use midi out.

Yes.... having visual feed back on controllers would be nice as i use two different controllers along with my 12's and my 57.... Some booths have shit lighting. Having midi out so i can sync abelton with SL is another avenue i will like to explore. WTF is wrong with wanting midi out.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:30 PM - 5 February, 2013
My set without midiout

Watchwww.youtube.com

Now if i had midi out it would look like this

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ GaFFle 7:33 PM - 5 February, 2013
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My set without midiout

Watchwww.youtube.com

Now if i had midi out it would look like this

Watchwww.youtube.com

LOL... youzza freakin' fool!
PorkyG 7:36 PM - 5 February, 2013
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I get a lot of you are defending SL for not implementing MIDI out and your main point it's "HOW IS IT THAT NOT HAVING MIDI OUT IS KILLING YOUR PERFORMANCE?"

it's not so much as killing a performance to me. it's the things that i can do if i had midi out that can complement my performance. The software needs to evolve because if not, it becomes a dinosaur. I'm not defending the buttonfreak dude, I can really use midi out.

Yes.... having visual feed back on controllers would be nice as i use two different controllers along with my 12's and my 57.... Some booths have shit lighting. Having midi out so i can sync abelton with SL is another avenue i will like to explore. WTF is wrong with wanting midi out.


I'm wondering the same thing, why the hell would they complain about midi out. It's not like it's some cutting edge shit where it would completely break SSL, well ok it could considering it's pretty much broken right now in the newest version but people haven't upgraded anyway so why not give it a go.
djaction 8:04 PM - 5 February, 2013
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I get a lot of you are defending SL for not implementing MIDI out and your main point it's "HOW IS IT THAT NOT HAVING MIDI OUT IS KILLING YOUR PERFORMANCE?"

it's not so much as killing a performance to me. it's the things that i can do if i had midi out that can complement my performance. The software needs to evolve because if not, it becomes a dinosaur. I'm not defending the buttonfreak dude, I can really use midi out.

Yes.... having visual feed back on controllers would be nice as i use two different controllers along with my 12's and my 57.... Some booths have shit lighting. Having midi out so i can sync abelton with SL is another avenue i will like to explore. WTF is wrong with wanting midi out.


i think everyones point is that maybe you should focus on your fundamental skillset first before adding more gimmicks to your set. but we have no idea what level you're at because you haven't posted a video
PorkyG 8:05 PM - 5 February, 2013
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i think everyones point is that maybe you should focus on your fundamental skillset first before adding more gimmicks to your set. but we have no idea what level you're at because you haven't posted a video


Then again, perhaps he doesn't care what others think.
djaction 8:06 PM - 5 February, 2013
most DJ's these day's dont care.. agreed
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:07 PM - 5 February, 2013
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Watchwww.youtube.com

Now if i had midi out it would look like this

Watchwww.youtube.com

LOL... youzza freakin' fool!

Lol :)
the_black_one 8:08 PM - 5 February, 2013
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I get a lot of you are defending SL for not implementing MIDI out and your main point it's "HOW IS IT THAT NOT HAVING MIDI OUT IS KILLING YOUR PERFORMANCE?"

it's not so much as killing a performance to me. it's the things that i can do if i had midi out that can complement my performance. The software needs to evolve because if not, it becomes a dinosaur. I'm not defending the buttonfreak dude, I can really use midi out.

Yes.... having visual feed back on controllers would be nice as i use two different controllers along with my 12's and my 57.... Some booths have shit lighting. Having midi out so i can sync abelton with SL is another avenue i will like to explore. WTF is wrong with wanting midi out.


i think everyones point is that maybe you should focus on your fundamental skillset first before adding more gimmicks to your set. but we have no idea what level you're at because you haven't posted a video



Listen here homie.... i dont need to post a good dam thing to prove anything to any one.... but i been djing for 19 fucking years and on SL since 04. SO go eat a bowl of dicks for even asking me to post a vid
sixxx 8:08 PM - 5 February, 2013
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My set without midiout

Watchwww.youtube.com

Now if i had midi out it would look like this

Watchwww.youtube.com

LOL... youzza freakin' fool!



hahaha
djaction 8:08 PM - 5 February, 2013
@thewhiteone we weren't asdking you to post a video we were asking the original creator of the thread 'thebottomfreak' to post a vid
djaction 8:09 PM - 5 February, 2013
and yeah my original quote should have been directed @ thebottomfreak not @ thewhiteone
the_black_one 8:09 PM - 5 February, 2013
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@thewhiteone we weren't asdking you to post a video we were asking the original creator of the thread 'thebottomfreak' to post a vid




N99a.... it's the_black_one
PorkyG 8:19 PM - 5 February, 2013
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True but they shouldn't feel they have to prove anything, I still don't see the harm in having midi out but I will say the original poster seemed more like he was using midi out to bash SSL than to make a stake for the function. Whether or not that's what he intended to do is not the case, it's just what I got from reading his posts.
djaction 8:19 PM - 5 February, 2013
he also said "no midi out is killing me" lol..
sixxx 8:21 PM - 5 February, 2013
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True but they shouldn't feel they have to prove anything, I still don't see the harm in having midi out but I will say the original poster seemed more like he was using midi out to bash SSL than to make a stake for the function. Whether or not that's what he intended to do is not the case, it's just what I got from reading his posts.


That's basically why I posted what I posted. lol

Like, seriously, then tell the world you're moving on. Just go!

NM
sixxx 8:21 PM - 5 February, 2013
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he also said "no midi out is killing me" lol..



hahaha
PorkyG 8:33 PM - 5 February, 2013
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he also said "no midi out is killing me" lol..

Yeah, that's not possible, If you can't make way with what you have then you definitely don't need more. I was going to say perhaps he used a bad choice of words but there's no perhaps there, that entire sentence was just bad. He would've saved himself a lot of time if he just said it would be a nice option to have.

Instead he got hit with the backlash then he got mad then it ended up like this s18.postimage.org
PorkyG 8:34 PM - 5 February, 2013
Damn you for not posting s18.postimage.org
sixxx 8:44 PM - 5 February, 2013
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lol @ that pic
phatbob 9:26 PM - 5 February, 2013
All these DJs dismissing a technology which helps people look at their screen less.

Interesting.
StevenWayne 9:40 PM - 5 February, 2013
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I get a lot of you are defending SL for not implementing MIDI out and your main point it's "HOW IS IT THAT NOT HAVING MIDI OUT IS KILLING YOUR PERFORMANCE?"

it's not so much as killing a performance to me. it's the things that i can do if i had midi out that can complement my performance. The software needs to evolve because if not, it becomes a dinosaur. I'm not defending the buttonfreak dude, I can really use midi out.

Yes.... having visual feed back on controllers would be nice as i use two different controllers along with my 12's and my 57.... Some booths have shit lighting. Having midi out so i can sync abelton with SL is another avenue i will like to explore. WTF is wrong with wanting midi out.


i think everyones point is that maybe you should focus on your fundamental skillset first before adding more gimmicks to your set. but we have no idea what level you're at because you haven't posted a video



Listen here homie.... i dont need to post a good dam thing to prove anything to any one.... but i been djing for 19 fucking years and on SL since 04. SO go eat a bowl of dicks for even asking me to post a vid


Wow, you're really mad!
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:43 PM - 5 February, 2013
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I get a lot of you are defending SL for not implementing MIDI out and your main point it's "HOW IS IT THAT NOT HAVING MIDI OUT IS KILLING YOUR PERFORMANCE?"

it's not so much as killing a performance to me. it's the things that i can do if i had midi out that can complement my performance. The software needs to evolve because if not, it becomes a dinosaur. I'm not defending the buttonfreak dude, I can really use midi out.

Yes.... having visual feed back on controllers would be nice as i use two different controllers along with my 12's and my 57.... Some booths have shit lighting. Having midi out so i can sync abelton with SL is another avenue i will like to explore. WTF is wrong with wanting midi out.


i think everyones point is that maybe you should focus on your fundamental skillset first before adding more gimmicks to your set. but we have no idea what level you're at because you haven't posted a video



Listen here homie.... i dont need to post a good dam thing to prove anything to any one.... but i been djing for 19 fucking years and on SL since 04. SO go eat a bowl of dicks for even asking me to post a vid


Wow, you're really mad!



Certinally does appear so
FabulousFrequencies 9:52 PM - 5 February, 2013
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Interesting.


I tried to make that point as well.. Interesting double logic and standards afloat.

If any of them took a look at what he's trying to accomplish (I did) He has a bazillion unlabled 'pads' for a main deck in SSL and NO light feedback.
Daktyl 9:55 PM - 5 February, 2013
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All these DJs dismissing a technology which helps people look at their screen less.

Interesting.

quoted for truth
to the op, couldn't you use midipipe or another midi translator to accomplish what you need? i mean i could see how that would be annoying and how you would rather just have midi out functionality in SSL, but if light feedback on a controller is the only reason you need midi out and your main reason for switching, wouldn't that be easier than learning a whole new platform?
FabulousFrequencies 9:59 PM - 5 February, 2013
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That's interesting. When I seen his issue I threw 3 Google minutes at it thinking that must make a program he can run on the side that will interpret midi input with a programmable response to feed back out. Is that essentially what you mean? The only issue I would see with this, is if something in the software turns itself off, like the end of a sample, the corresponding sample pad would want to turn off, etc.
FabulousFrequencies 10:08 PM - 5 February, 2013
For anyone truly interested, and that might have missed it, he's doing this:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Which, if you notice all those pads are not labeled whatsoever. The entire deck is unscreened. Light feedback would help him identify what's active without looking at the screen constantly and would confirm tactile feedback. granted it's not a Serato vendor, but he IS using it in conjuction with a RANE product and Serato does state the whole purpose of it's midi map capability is to use secondary controllers with Serato partners products. So they're kind of failing him here for no real reason.
Daktyl 10:14 PM - 5 February, 2013
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That's interesting. When I seen his issue I threw 3 Google minutes at it thinking that must make a program he can run on the side that will interpret midi input with a programmable response to feed back out. Is that essentially what you mean?

that's essentially how it works.
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Not sure if i get your example, you mean like if you hit a one shot and it ends? you can just set the light for the corresponding button to momentary and that solves that problem. There are some issues with the light state of the hardware not reflecting what's going on in the software though. For example, say you have a button mapped to turn an effect on. if you turn it on with your controller, the light for that button goes on. But if your turn it off by another method (mouse click in software, keyboard shortcut, button on Rane mixer, etc.) the light on your controller will stay on, even though the corresponding effect is turned off...
FabulousFrequencies 10:20 PM - 5 February, 2013
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Not sure if i get your example, you mean like if you hit a one shot and it ends


Yeah, you nailed it and explained it well. That, or if a deck is playing you would want the play button solid and when it stops it would need it to turn off. So the software still won't be giving him 'state' awareness feedback, but it's a start.
latindj 10:32 PM - 5 February, 2013
so who's the_mad_one up in here???

NM
the_black_one 10:35 PM - 5 February, 2013
Latindj... Long time no post... U been good homie?
sixxx 10:50 PM - 5 February, 2013
he mad
Joshua Carl 10:51 PM - 5 February, 2013
Damn nature. U scary!
the_black_one 10:55 PM - 5 February, 2013
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he mad


I get mad at idiots
djaction 11:23 PM - 5 February, 2013
Don't like idiots? You're on the wrong forum.
the_black_one 11:26 PM - 5 February, 2013
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Don't like idiots? You're on the wrong forum.



the reason im here is because there is a hand full of guys that i do respect so i put up with all the idiots. (NH,NM)
latindj 11:26 PM - 5 February, 2013
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orale!

chingando a toda madre...

NM
djaction 11:33 PM - 5 February, 2013
Let's get this back on topic. Thebottomfreaks seriously butthurt about this midi stuff.
djaction 11:35 PM - 5 February, 2013
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orale!

chingando a toda madre...

NM


 Yo tengo el gato los pantalones
Laz219 11:36 PM - 5 February, 2013
Just for context....
serato.com
Laz219 11:37 PM - 5 February, 2013
(I've only skimmed this thread, so if that was already posted...my bad)
AKIEM 11:42 PM - 5 February, 2013
Momentary or latched... yeah I mentioned that solution two days ago.
Laz219 12:03 AM - 6 February, 2013
And I guess the traktor forums can look forward to posts like this once you switch:
www.native-instruments.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:08 AM - 6 February, 2013
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the reason im here is because there is a hand full of guys that i do respect so i put up with all the idiots. (NH,NM)

Thanks bro!! Lol
the_black_one 12:11 AM - 6 February, 2013
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the reason im here is because there is a hand full of guys that i do respect so i put up with all the idiots. (NH,NM)

Thanks bro!! Lol


telll you what bezzle..... youe a funny dude (NM) and behand all your silly shit you make some good points.....
Dj Nyce 12:13 AM - 6 February, 2013
this thread isn't about midi out. it's about trying traktor out. if you are not curious about traktor, what are you even doing here? leave and go post in a serato dj thread already.
Mr. Goodkat 12:30 AM - 6 February, 2013
back to traktor. people bitch about sync, but really its more of a hassle than not, for me, so i can see never using it.

what i can now tell is that traktor is no more or no less than serato. its a lateral move. if you are comfortable with it or ssl, or both, its your choice.
sixxx 12:32 AM - 6 February, 2013
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back to traktor. people bitch about sync, but really its more of a hassle than not, for me, so i can see never using it.

what i can now tell is that traktor is no more or no less than serato. its a lateral move. if you are comfortable with it or ssl, or both, its your choice.


That's a negative. Until Traktor has video support whether it's from it's own company or something like Mix Emergency, then it's really not a lateral move.

The latest Traktor mixer seems very nice and affordable but no video support is the only thing that's stopping me from even trying it.
sixxx 12:33 AM - 6 February, 2013
and try not to get all emotional on me again, it's my personal opinion. hahahahaha

nm
Mr. Goodkat 12:40 AM - 6 February, 2013
oh yeah video. i never use that. but other than that its basically ford vs. chevy.
Taipanic 1:22 AM - 6 February, 2013
Personally, I think it is cool that they are not clones of each other. Serato has lots of plusses for ease of use, reliability, video, etc... Traktor has some remix elements that allow live creation and remixing of tracks, rather than just playing a remixed track and some great effects. Both of these systems have features that appeal to me. To others it may not, but why hate on one or the other when they both allow DJs to be creative in the ways that best suit them. I wish I had the time to stay in the studio and master all of them - Traktor, Serato, Maschine, Ableton, M.E., Resolume, etc... Face it, the state of DJing has changed and it won't go back to what it used to be, ever. The bar is so low to enter the DJ field that anyone and everyone is now a DJ. True love for the profession and music, combined with creativity and practiced skills, is what will set the good DJs apart in the future. In 1990, there was no WWW to watch how-to videos, no instant music collection downloads. You had to spend tens of thousands on music and equipment and learn by experimenting & practicing. This separated the wannabes from the people who really wanted it. Anyone can learn to DJ in a weekend now. I strive to be better than them and embrace what is out there, learn new things, and make it work for you. The new stuff will keep coming, figure out how it can make you a better DJ.
Mr. Goodkat 2:22 AM - 6 February, 2013
not exactly the same, but lateral in the sense that ssl does some things better, somethings traktor does better, but neither is a clear winner.
nik39 2:22 AM - 6 February, 2013
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did you notice the cvs tend to warp more easily than ssl? especially the new ssl performance vinyl?

I have the same feeling!
Mr. Goodkat 2:24 AM - 6 February, 2013
the performance vinyl has been a real step up for serato.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:31 AM - 6 February, 2013
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he mad


I get mad at idiots


Self hatred is a bad thing....
DJ Dynamite - NJ 2:34 AM - 6 February, 2013
99% of you guys asking for most of these features suck.. that's why you're crying for features. Go practice and perfect your craft and you won't be crying for features. I'm done being politically correct. You just plain SUCK!! And if you don't suck then post something showing otherwise. If not then go back to playing your bedroom for the crowd of your teddy bears. Step aside and watch the game from the sidelines.

*drops the mic... leaves the stage

(nm)
Mr. Goodkat 2:40 AM - 6 February, 2013
i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.
PorkyG 2:41 AM - 6 February, 2013
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99% of you guys asking for most of these features suck.. that's why you're crying for features. Go practice and perfect your craft and you won't be crying for features. I'm done being politically correct. You just plain SUCK!! And if you don't suck then post something showing otherwise. If not then go back to playing your bedroom for the crowd of your teddy bears. Step aside and watch the game from the sidelines.

*drops the mic... leaves the stage

(nm)


media.skateboard.com.au
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:47 AM - 6 February, 2013
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99% of you guys asking for most of these features suck.. that's why you're crying for features. Go practice and perfect your craft and you won't be crying for features. I'm done being politically correct. You just plain SUCK!! And if you don't suck then post something showing otherwise. If not then go back to playing your bedroom for the crowd of your teddy bears. Step aside and watch the game from the sidelines.

*drops the mic... leaves the stage

(nm)


SHOTS FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!

www.djjohnnym.com
DJ Dynamite - NJ 2:47 AM - 6 February, 2013
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i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.

Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights
PorkyG 2:48 AM - 6 February, 2013
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i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.

Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights


i0.kym-cdn.com
DJ Dynamite - NJ 2:49 AM - 6 February, 2013
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99% of you guys asking for most of these features suck.. that's why you're crying for features. Go practice and perfect your craft and you won't be crying for features. I'm done being politically correct. You just plain SUCK!! And if you don't suck then post something showing otherwise. If not then go back to playing your bedroom for the crowd of your teddy bears. Step aside and watch the game from the sidelines.

*drops the mic... leaves the stage

(nm)


SHOTS FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!

www.djjohnnym.com

No shots fired... just voicing my opinion. If anybody wants to take it to heart then that just means that they feel that they're part of that 99% that suck
Mr. Goodkat 2:50 AM - 6 February, 2013
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i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.

Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights


well if you couldnt dj, you'd be just as dibby as the flashing lights crowd.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:51 AM - 6 February, 2013
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99% of you guys asking for most of these features suck.. that's why you're crying for features. Go practice and perfect your craft and you won't be crying for features. I'm done being politically correct. You just plain SUCK!! And if you don't suck then post something showing otherwise. If not then go back to playing your bedroom for the crowd of your teddy bears. Step aside and watch the game from the sidelines.

*drops the mic... leaves the stage

(nm)


SHOTS FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!

www.djjohnnym.com

No shots fired... just voicing my opinion. If anybody wants to take it to heart then that just means that they feel that they're part of that 99% that suck


NAW! Take that to the 1's and 2's!!!!

Or 3's, 4's, 5's, 6's, 7's...if you're using buttons and whatnot.....

LMAO....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:52 AM - 6 February, 2013
Mr. Goodkat 2:52 AM - 6 February, 2013
everybodys using turntables as midi controllers here right?
DJ Dynamite - NJ 2:58 AM - 6 February, 2013
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i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.

Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights


i0.kym-cdn.com

haha, I don't get mad about posts on an internet forum. Like I said, I voiced my opinion. You don't have to like. I didn't direct at any individual, just a general statement. If you feel the need to retaliate with a statement then that just means that you feel that statement is talking about you... which means that you must feel that you suck as a DJ. If you didn't think it was about you then you wouldn't have comeback with some lame comment about my promo pic...SMH
PorkyG 3:02 AM - 6 February, 2013
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haha, I don't get mad about posts on an internet forum. Like I said, I voiced my opinion. You don't have to like. I didn't direct at any individual, just a general statement. If you feel the need to retaliate with a statement then that just means that you feel that statement is talking about you... which means that you must feel that you suck as a DJ. If you didn't think it was about you then you wouldn't have comeback with some lame comment about my promo pic...SMH


t.qkme.me

You're so mad you quoted the wrong person.
thebuttonfreak 3:04 AM - 6 February, 2013
Either that or I have a job and a life outside of the internet.

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Let's get this back on topic. Thebottomfreaks seriously butthurt about this midi stuff.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:07 AM - 6 February, 2013
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haha, I don't get mad about posts on an internet forum. Like I said, I voiced my opinion. You don't have to like. I didn't direct at any individual, just a general statement. If you feel the need to retaliate with a statement then that just means that you feel that statement is talking about you... which means that you must feel that you suck as a DJ. If you didn't think it was about you then you wouldn't have comeback with some lame comment about my promo pic...SMH


t.qkme.me

You're so mad you quoted the wrong person.

That's your opinion
PorkyG 3:09 AM - 6 February, 2013
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That's your opinion


No, it's fact you got so mad you thought I commented on your profile picture.

media.comicvine.com
Mr. Goodkat 3:12 AM - 6 February, 2013
no, im not mad, when people make an ambiguous claim aimed at no one, and they smash back, you get upset.

sixxx calls it emotional. you say im mad about the statement you made.

im not mad, im just typing at my keyboard listening to music. Im just saying, a couple guys claim to want midi out for ssl(in this thread), then 99% suck because they want this feature.

thats a stupid statement thats really aimed at no one, and can't be proven right or wrong. just some bs thrown into the forum.

So as long as we are gonna throw down opinions about sucking, ill throw one out there.

THe keenan ivory wayans pic with some sunglasses tilted down is wack. Therefore, hope you are a good dj, cuz that pic is embarrassingly funny.

we are actually talking about traktor. what do you think about traktor?
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:12 AM - 6 February, 2013
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That's your opinion


No, it's fact you got so mad you thought I commented on your profile picture.

media.comicvine.com

4.bp.blogspot.com
thebuttonfreak 3:13 AM - 6 February, 2013
Ya, I need to try midipipe. It's hard to learn how to use it so I never get around to it.
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All these DJs dismissing a technology which helps people look at their screen less.

Interesting.

quoted for truth
to the op, couldn't you use midipipe or another midi translator to accomplish what you need? i mean i could see how that would be annoying and how you would rather just have midi out functionality in SSL, but if light feedback on a controller is the only reason you need midi out and your main reason for switching, wouldn't that be easier than learning a whole new platform?
thebuttonfreak 3:15 AM - 6 February, 2013
And is bottomfreak a compliment or an insult. I can't tell because I'm not a douchebag homophobe.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:22 AM - 6 February, 2013
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im not mad, im just typing at my keyboard listening to music. Im just saying, a couple guys claim to want midi out for ssl(in this thread), then 99% suck because they want this feature.

I didn't say any particular feature. What I said was "99% of you guys asking for most of these features suck.. that's why you're crying for features. Go practice and perfect your craft and you won't be crying for features."
thebuttonfreak 3:26 AM - 6 February, 2013
I practiced how to achieve a perfect smooth mix for like 4 years. Is that enough practice?
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:26 AM - 6 February, 2013
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So as long as we are gonna throw down opinions about sucking, ill throw one out there.

THe keenan ivory wayans pic with some sunglasses tilted down is wack. Therefore, hope you are a good dj, cuz that pic is embarrassingly funny.

No, I suck as a DJ. I'm only in it for the bitches and the drinks (nm)
thebuttonfreak 3:27 AM - 6 February, 2013
Damn guys it's just a traktor vs serato thread. It's not war. You guys need to chill.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:29 AM - 6 February, 2013
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Damn guys it's just a traktor vs serato thread. It's not war. You guys need to chill.

No war... this is my entertainment for the night since there's nothing on tv
thebuttonfreak 3:30 AM - 6 February, 2013
Watch "House of Cards" on Netflix, that shit is dope.
thebuttonfreak 3:31 AM - 6 February, 2013
and I think you profile pic is amazing, don't ever change it.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:35 AM - 6 February, 2013
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THe keenan ivory wayans pic with some sunglasses tilted down is wack.


That's Keenan?
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:37 AM - 6 February, 2013
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THe keenan ivory wayans pic with some sunglasses tilted down is wack.


That's Keenan?

Yup, don't you know all us celebrities become DJs after our careers fizzle?
thebuttonfreak 3:39 AM - 6 February, 2013
Wayans brothers are still going hard, you need to talk to your brother.
Joshua Carl 4:18 AM - 6 February, 2013
woooooooooooooooooo shits gettin real son!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:34 AM - 6 February, 2013
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Wayans brothers are still going hard, you need to talk to your brother.


Ummm....

You know that's Dynamite's REAL pic....rite?

Say you knew that, ok?

Cuz...
um....
well....

Let me just leave y'all to sort it out....
FabulousFrequencies 5:20 AM - 6 February, 2013
I like my new avi.. Just feels so much more appropriate around here..
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:35 AM - 6 February, 2013
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I like my new avi.. Just feels so much more appropriate around here..

lol
DJ Gone Fishing 7:08 AM - 6 February, 2013
Traktor is the bomb It's the truth!!!

Watchwww.youtube.com
Laz219 8:02 AM - 6 February, 2013
...............
I predict forum magic to follow.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:14 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Traktor is the bomb It's the truth!!!



Watchwww.youtube.com


"You can learn a lot, from a Dummy".

He make Traktor look GOOD AS HELL there for a moment....
AKIEM 4:26 PM - 6 February, 2013
oh shit son, did you see what he did with the Midi Out?!
gootdamn!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:23 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Traktor is the bomb It's the truth!!!



Watchwww.youtube.com


"You can learn a lot, from a Dummy".

He make Traktor look GOOD AS HELL there for a moment....


What's up my dude I miss you (no homo)!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:27 PM - 6 February, 2013
Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around with serato.
DJ Gone Fishing 5:44 PM - 6 February, 2013
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oh shit son, did you see what he did with the Midi Out?!
gootdamn!

Akiem, If you like that you will love this

Watchwww.youtube.com

Tracktor is the bomb
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:01 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Traktor is the bomb It's the truth!!!



Watchwww.youtube.com


"You can learn a lot, from a Dummy".

He make Traktor look GOOD AS HELL there for a moment....


What's up my dude I miss you (no homo)!


Watchwww.youtube.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:02 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.



Tmi? Nh
DJ Gone Fishing 6:08 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.



Tmi? Nh


From what i seen from you. You have to learn Serato first kid!

Go back and practice your skills sonny!

Gone Fishing, I'm out son!
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:11 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.



Tmi? Nh


From what i seen from you. You have to learn Serato first kid!




So its practice serato THEN the dildo? Well now i know why my scratching never improved
Traxus 6:19 PM - 6 February, 2013
Having just developed a very in depth Lemur template for Serato, I couldn't agree more about the midi out. What I really struggle with is that they are pitching and selling Serato DJ as the product to have if you want to play via a midi controller, and THAT doesn't even have midi out, it's borderline hypocrisy.

On the other hand, Serato HAS opened up its platters for midi mapping, which Traktor is dragging its ass on, which is why I was able to build what I built in the first place so props for that on the midi front.

But on the whole I echo your concern, Serato is a great product but has a lot of catching up to do, and I mean in the terms of industry standards, not copying Traktor to the t...
d:raf 6:22 PM - 6 February, 2013
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On the other hand, Serato HAS opened up its platters for midi mapping,



Wait, when did this happen?
DJ Gone Fishing 6:30 PM - 6 February, 2013
Keep dissing
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Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.



Tmi? Nh


Keep dissing me I will see your bitch ass.

Now go eat your bowl of dick's for breakfast.

When I see you be as tough as you are now, please don't change when I come to LA.

I'm going to put your faggot ass in checkmate!
Traxus 6:36 PM - 6 February, 2013
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On the other hand, Serato HAS opened up its platters for midi mapping,



Wait, when did this happen?


Well, I'm not sure *open* is the most accurate term but they are available, check the first few seconds of my vid:

Watchwww.youtube.com

From what I understand, Traktor isn't far behind, but right now their platter mapping is closed to NI hardware only. Hopefully they will (continue to?) see the light and not be stingy about it.
d:raf 6:43 PM - 6 February, 2013
I thought that traktor platter control was mappable to just about anything. Watchwww.youtube.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:44 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Keep dissing
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Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.



Tmi? Nh


Keep dissing me I will see your bitch ass.

Now go eat your bowl of dick's for breakfast.

When I see you be as tough as you are now, please don't change when I come to LA.

I'm going to put your faggot ass in checkmate!

media.giantbomb.com
phatbob 6:45 PM - 6 February, 2013
With Traktor you can basically map nearly any jog wheel to platter control, openly, but the really tight control is restricted to their proprietary HID system.

With SL people have reverse engineered the mapping from supported platters and applied it to other controllers, but it's still not as good as their HID control either.
Traxus 6:49 PM - 6 February, 2013
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With Traktor you can basically map nearly any jog wheel to platter control, openly, but the really tight control is restricted to their proprietary HID system.

With SL people have reverse engineered the mapping from supported platters and applied it to other controllers, but it's still not as good as their HID control either.


From what I understand, I could be mistaken, those jog wheels send out time code..? Is there a way to control the platters directly through midi or OSC (endless encoders)?
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:51 PM - 6 February, 2013
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With Traktor you can basically map nearly any jog wheel to platter control, openly, but the really tight control is restricted to their proprietary HID system.

With SL people have reverse engineered the mapping from supported platters and applied it to other controllers, but it's still not as good as their HID control either.


From what I understand, I could be mistaken, those jog wheels send out time code..? Is there a way to control the platters directly through midi or OSC (endless encoders)?



I dont think it sends "time code" i think technically its a different signal type
Traxus 6:55 PM - 6 February, 2013
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I dont think it sends "time code" i think technically its a different signal type


Okay, but it doesn't seem to be something directly controllable through midi/osc...

--not to say that Serato's platters are, but I haven't been able to get my hands on a Traktor mapping file, as they appear to be crudded up in something more complicated than XML
Traxus 7:03 PM - 6 February, 2013
^^ actually, .tsi is just an xml as well, my bad.
DJ Gone Fishing 7:08 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Keep dissing
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Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.



Tmi? Nh


Keep dissing me I will see your bitch ass.

Now go eat your bowl of dick's for breakfast.

When I see you be as tough as you are now, please don't change when I come to LA.



I'm going to put your faggot ass in checkmate!

media.giantbomb.com


When i come see you with the Shreveport Bottom Boys you will see how mad I am!
You should slow your roll and kick back and be cool I'm trying real hard to understand your just a toy boy!
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:14 PM - 6 February, 2013
sixxx 7:19 PM - 6 February, 2013
Oh damn. This thread delivers. lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:23 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Oh damn. This thread delivers. lol

Its def covered the bases lol
the_black_one 7:33 PM - 6 February, 2013
This bitch is not going to die till midi out is implemented
DJ Gone Fishing 7:33 PM - 6 February, 2013
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t.qkme.me


I like the picture, it is dope.


Fishing is gangster!
DJ Gone Fishing 7:35 PM - 6 February, 2013
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This bitch is not going to die till midi out is implemented


Your right, you speak the truth!
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:35 PM - 6 February, 2013
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t.qkme.me


I like the picture, it is dope.


Fishing is gangster!

Lol figured id enjoy it
DJ Gone Fishing 7:36 PM - 6 February, 2013
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t.qkme.me


I like the picture, it is dope.


Fishing is gangster!

Lol figured id enjoy it


I might even use it!
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:37 PM - 6 February, 2013
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This bitch is not going to die till midi out is implemented

Just had an inspirational flash for a movie following your journey to find midi out in a post apocoliptic world battling analog zombys, kinda like the road but insteadnof finding the bible you find a traktor manual
the_black_one 7:40 PM - 6 February, 2013
Hahahahha..... Funny shit bezz.... Fuck zombies and all that bull shit... Give me midi out and this Ni99a will go into a beep beta testing period!!! NM
the_black_one 7:41 PM - 6 February, 2013
*deep
latindj 7:45 PM - 6 February, 2013
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*deep


dude, you've never been "deep" in anything...especially vaginas. stop playing! lol

NM
the_black_one 7:48 PM - 6 February, 2013
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*deep


dude, you've never been "deep" in anything...especially vaginas. stop playing! lol

NM



I bust nuts in vaginas all the time homie!!!! Never pull out!!!!! NM
DJ Gone Fishing 7:57 PM - 6 February, 2013
Well with all that said i still use serato if the club has it in place.

I don't care if it is implemented, I use both, serato at the club's that have it in place.
DJ Gone Fishing 8:03 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Well with all that said i still use serato if the club has it in place.

I don't care if it is implemented, I use both, serato at the club's that have it in place.


But it's like sleeping with a plain Jane!
the_black_one 8:10 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Well with all that said i still use serato if the club has it in place.

I don't care if it is implemented, I use both, serato at the club's that have it in place.


But it's like sleeping with a plain Jane!

So you pull out??? NM
DJ Gone Fishing 8:14 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Well with all that said i still use serato if the club has it in place.

I don't care if it is implemented, I use both, serato at the club's that have it in place.


But it's like sleeping with a plain Jane!

So you pull out??? NM


Alway's or i put a sock on the pickle
DJ Gone Fishing 8:18 PM - 6 February, 2013
I just see it as go with what suits you, some guys like to keep it simple.
The Human Error 9:23 PM - 6 February, 2013
I´m from sweden and our traktors don´t need midi out.

Watchwww.youtube.com
Serato, Support
ChrisD 9:44 PM - 6 February, 2013
DJ Gone Fishing,

Some of your comments are out of line.

If you can't converse with other people in a civil manner go and find somewhere else to hang out.
DJ Gone Fishing 9:58 PM - 6 February, 2013
When their civil to me, I'm always civil to them. You must earn respect to get respect.
I always respect people till I'm disrespect.
DJ Gone Fishing 10:05 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.



Tmi? Nh

This is where the disrespect started don't single me out that message should be for Bezzy also.

But me being disrespected is Ok
DJ Gone Fishing 10:08 PM - 6 February, 2013
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DJ Gone Fishing,

Some of your comments are out of line.

If you can't converse with other people in a civil manner go and find somewhere else to hang out.


Quote(Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.)

Now that comment was way out of line!
No waring though!
DJ Dynamite - NJ 11:08 PM - 6 February, 2013
Bezzle gets a pass... he's like the kid in school that rode the special short bus and always wore the helmet
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:13 PM - 6 February, 2013
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Bezzle gets a pass... he's like the kid in school that rode the special short bus and always wore the helmet

t.qkme.me
thebuttonfreak 11:46 PM - 6 February, 2013
Who do I have to insult to get Serato mods to make an official statement about midi out.
Laz219 1:39 AM - 7 February, 2013
This keeps on getting better.

"Eat a bowl of dicks" really has become a common expression around here.
thebuttonfreak 2:16 AM - 7 February, 2013
SERATO! You're mother's a whore!
DJ Gone Fishing 2:17 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Who do I have to insult to get Serato mods to make an official statement about midi out.


The truth is the mod came by because I showed a product with midi out that was not in serato's chain or line of equipment.

Do they have one? Ahhh No

I am not going to pigeon hold my self as a Dj, or back a product and endorse a product that I am not getting paid to endorse.

If I did get paid for it, and felt the product need to step up to the year 2013 dj standards I would say so.

Use the product that is good for you as for me I am not sleeping with plain every night when she is just plain boring only does missionary every night BORING!
Serato, Support
ChrisD 2:25 AM - 7 February, 2013
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The truth is the mod came by because I showed a product with midi out that was not in serato's chain or line of equipment.

No, I came by because you directed a bunch of insults directly at another forum user.

You can insult me, Serato or our products as much as you want. But when you starting throwing abuse at another forum user I'm going to get involved.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:25 AM - 7 February, 2013
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SERATO! You're mother's a whore!


You don't have to take it that far, it was funny though!

Just find the product that suits you, thats what i did.

But i felt just like you 5 or 6 years ago.

Just packed my bags and pulled out!

Now my serato sets in the corner collecting dust when I want pain jane missionary I dust it off and play with it for a minute.
thebuttonfreak 2:26 AM - 7 February, 2013
I doubt that man, people post praise about other products on here all the time. I'm not sure why they singled you out when there way more hateful/offensive stuff is being posted by other people in this thread but I'm pretty sure it wasn't about hyping another brand. Maybe they hate fisherman?
thebuttonfreak 2:29 AM - 7 February, 2013
I take it back "eat a bowl of dicks" is the most offensive thing in this thread.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:32 AM - 7 February, 2013
But he can say Quote (Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.)

And that is fine to write, that is truly bias, and wrong not a fair playing field.

But it is the same ole nazi rule around here!

I have seen more offensive comments around this camp, I feel pity for you that can not stand up to the nazi's!
DJ Gone Fishing 2:33 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I doubt that man, people post praise about other products on here all the time. I'm not sure why they singled you out when there way more hateful/offensive stuff is being posted by other people in this thread but I'm pretty sure it wasn't about hyping another brand. Maybe they hate fisherman?


No it's because I am black
DJ DisGrace 2:34 AM - 7 February, 2013
^ that's called a misquote. are you new, or something?
DJ Gone Fishing 2:34 AM - 7 February, 2013
All the blacks get checked quick, but they let the others do as they choose!
DJ Gone Fishing 2:39 AM - 7 February, 2013
i am going to give my true thought's where ever i go and when i feel I've been disrespected I will do the same to that person.

Its called being your own man and not a slave!
DJ Gone Fishing 2:42 AM - 7 February, 2013
I am am not here to disrespect anyone.

BUT I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED!
phatbob 2:43 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I am am not here to disrespect anyone.


Except gay people, apparently.
djaction 2:44 AM - 7 February, 2013
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All the blacks get checked quick, but they let the others do as they choose!


but "theblackone" was the first person in this thread to use the 'bowl of dicks insult" and he used it @ me.


lol.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:45 AM - 7 February, 2013
If you come at me with respect, I will do the same!

This not 1913 it's 2013!
DJ DisGrace 2:46 AM - 7 February, 2013
This thread actually had some promise until DJ Gone Fishing showed up...
djaction 2:47 AM - 7 February, 2013
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This forum actually had some promise until mbezzle signed up...



ftfy.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:48 AM - 7 February, 2013
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All the blacks get checked quick, but they let the others do as they choose!


but "theblackone" was the first person in this thread to use the 'bowl of dicks insult" and he used it @ me.


lol.


i only responded to this, that was first said!

Quote (Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.)
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ChrisD 2:49 AM - 7 February, 2013
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BUT I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED!

This is the internet. It's gonna happen sooner or later. Maybe you should find another forum to hang out on.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:50 AM - 7 February, 2013
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This forum actually had some promise until mbezzle signed up...



ftfy.

Your right and he should not get a pass, he should be held responsible like everyone else.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:51 AM - 7 February, 2013
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BUT I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED!

This is the internet. It's gonna happen sooner or later. Maybe you should find another forum to hang out on.

It also says in your rules to be nice to everyone, that includes black people also!
phatbob 2:52 AM - 7 February, 2013
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It also says in your rules to be nice to everyone, that includes black people also!


But not gay people, right?
Dj Nyce 2:54 AM - 7 February, 2013
thanks for ruining the discussion. i'm out.
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ChrisD 2:54 AM - 7 February, 2013
Why do think being black has anything to do with anything?

Are you black? How would I know one way or the other? Do you know my ethnicity?

If I were you I'd step away from the keyboard, get some rest and come back later. You're being irrational.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:55 AM - 7 February, 2013
Again, i am not here to disrespect anyone what so ever but i am not going to be anyone's whipping boy or their joke boy .

You should treat people how you want to be treated!
DJ DisGrace 2:55 AM - 7 February, 2013
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You're being irrational.

That's a common theme in all his posts...
DJ Gone Fishing 2:56 AM - 7 February, 2013
I am sorry but the truth hurts!
djaction 2:56 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Quote:
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All the blacks get checked quick, but they let the others do as they choose!


but "theblackone" was the first person in this thread to use the 'bowl of dicks insult" and he used it @ me.


lol.


i only responded to this, that was first said!

Quote (Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.)
\

right but "theblackone" used an insult on here first.. and no mods said anything.. so you're theory aint holdin up
DJ Gone Fishing 2:58 AM - 7 February, 2013
A message to everyone.

I am a black man
DJ DisGrace 2:59 AM - 7 February, 2013
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A message to everyone.

I am drunk

fixed
DJ Gone Fishing 3:00 AM - 7 February, 2013
I have seen enough around here to know whats really going on!

You must earn respect to get respect!
thebuttonfreak 3:04 AM - 7 February, 2013
True, the homophobia on this forum is very 1990's.
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It also says in your rules to be nice to everyone, that includes black people also!


But not gay people, right?
thebuttonfreak 3:05 AM - 7 February, 2013
I have a theory that popular music quite being good when white kids stopped wanting to be black. Discuss.
DJ Gone Fishing 3:05 AM - 7 February, 2013
The Homophobia started way before i got here!
DJ Gone Fishing 3:08 AM - 7 February, 2013
Its the internet, Homophobia will happen sooner or later.

I like all people that respect me!
thebuttonfreak 3:09 AM - 7 February, 2013
Ya, it's a constant thing. I think that's because most people on here are 80's or 90's hip hop people, which is a pretty homophobic scene to begin with, it's dumb but at least understandable. If you're a house dj and a homophobe then you're a complete idiot though. that's like being a racist Jazz musician.
DJ Gone Fishing 3:14 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Ya, it's a constant thing. I think that's because most people on here are 80's or 90's hip hop people, which is a pretty homophobic scene to begin with, it's dumb but at least understandable. If you're a house dj and a homophobe then you're a complete idiot though. that's like being a racist Jazz musician.


This is true!
DJ Gone Fishing 3:55 AM - 7 February, 2013
Like Black Sheep says, The Choice Is Yours!


You can dj like this

Watchwww.youtube.com



Or you can djj like that


Watchwww.youtube.com

Its all up to you, be all you can be!
FabulousFrequencies 4:11 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Keep dissing me I will see your bitch ass.

Now go eat your bowl of dick's for breakfast.

When I see you be as tough as you are now, please don't change when I come to LA.

I'm going to put your faggot ass in checkmate!


I'm going to assume you crossed the general decency guidelines when you made a personal threat ^^^^

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All the blacks get checked quick, but they let the others do as they choose!


But naturally.. You were singled out because you're black..
AKIEM 4:14 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Why do think being black has anything to do with anything?

Are you black? How would I know one way or the other? Do you know my ethnicity?


Judge Dread is Italian right? Ain't he Italian?
Yes you are Italian.
What do I win?
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ChrisD 4:17 AM - 7 February, 2013
I'm happy with Italian.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:19 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Why do think being black has anything to do with anything?

Are you black? How would I know one way or the other? Do you know my ethnicity?


Judge Dread is Italian right? Ain't he Italian?
Yes you are Italian.
What do I win?



was he italian in the remake?? Ironically look what i found on wikipedia lol
en.wikipedia.org
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An aborted idea was to have Dredd as a non-white character. In Carlos Ezquerra's original design he drew Dredd with large lips, "to put a mystery as to his racial background."[23] Not all of the artists who worked on the strip were told. As a result Mike McMahon spent four months drawing Dredd as a black man, while Brian Bolland and Ron Smith drew him as a white man. As the strip was not printed in colour, this went unnoticed and the idea was dropped
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ChrisD 4:27 AM - 7 February, 2013
A pseudo-American comic character, dreamt up by a bunch of Europeans to be racially ambiguous and re-appropriated by some dude in New Zealand to be his forum avatar.

This has to mean SOMETHING.
DJ Gone Fishing 4:29 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Keep dissing me I will see your bitch ass.

Now go eat your bowl of dick's for breakfast.

When I see you be as tough as you are now, please don't change when I come to LA.

I'm going to put your faggot ass in checkmate!


I'm going to assume you crossed the general decency guidelines when you made a personal threat ^^^^

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All the blacks get checked quick, but they let the others do as they choose!


But naturally.. You were singled out because you're black..



Its called cause and effect!
If he is civil with me i will show him the same!

It all started with this comment!

{Quote:}
(Tracktor is great, I use it also, but I also still toy around a dildo.)

Had he not wrote that he would not gotten any response from me!

The true nature has been misrepresented!
DJ Unique 4:32 AM - 7 February, 2013
Damn!!!
This Traktor discussion is getting weird with "bowl of dick" "faggot" "dildo"
DJ Gone Fishing 4:36 AM - 7 February, 2013
He can say people people playing with dildo's, and thats fine!

He made the first diss!

He should not get a pass!

He should be nice to everyone!

Remember your own rules be nice to others!
DJ Gone Fishing 4:43 AM - 7 February, 2013
The rule should stand for everyone!

I've seen worst written on here than what I wrote.

I was saying hello to johnny I was not even directing any statement towards him.

He came in the thread trying to diss people like he always does, and everybody just lets him run a muck and spew disrespect all over the board.

He has to held accountable for his actions also!
thebuttonfreak 4:53 AM - 7 February, 2013
I used to find old british Judge Dread comics at the used book store when I was a kid. Judge Dread ruled.
thebuttonfreak 4:56 AM - 7 February, 2013
Gone fishing took it too far, but he didn't start it.

Has anyone ever seen a bowl of dicks? I for one have never come across one.
thebuttonfreak 4:57 AM - 7 February, 2013
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:00 AM - 7 February, 2013
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relevant Watchwww.youtube.com

unusually relevant LOL!!!
FabulousFrequencies 5:00 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Its called cause and effect!
If he is civil with me i will show him the same!


In other words, this is the justification for making physical threats, over words? People have the right to express themselves and if you choose to *escalate* that to another level like you did, it may not be readily acceptable. I think the mod is trying to say just that.

Why don't you, instead of threatening to see him when you see him, tell him to eat a bowl of big black dicks. When he refuses, or tries to turn the tables, then you have grounds to accuse him of being racist against black dicks. Problem solved and you're justified in suspecting racism, all in one shot. :)

I'm trolling off to another place now.. shit is gettin WEIRD in here..
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:02 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Why don't you, instead of threatening to see him when you see him, tell him to eat a bowl of big black dicks. When he refuses, or tries to turn the tables, then you have grounds to accuse him of being racist against black dicks. Problem solved and you're justified in suspecting racism, all in one shot. :)
.

...what about option 3 and i opp for the black dick bowl
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:03 AM - 7 February, 2013
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relevant Watchwww.youtube.com




lmfao i can barley post because everytime i start typin CK tops whatever joke im thinkin of lol (NH NM)
DJ Gone Fishing 5:03 AM - 7 February, 2013
The truth hurts some, but the truth will always win over injustice!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:05 AM - 7 February, 2013
I only posted to show what Tracktor is really about!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:07 AM - 7 February, 2013
I love tracktor its my main setup for Djing!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:09 AM - 7 February, 2013
Tracktor is the bomb and if you don't think so , thats your choice!
thebuttonfreak 5:09 AM - 7 February, 2013
I think you should go fishing, get some of that zen back.
thebuttonfreak 5:10 AM - 7 February, 2013
He's hilarious.
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relevant Watchwww.youtube.com




lmfao i can barley post because everytime i start typin CK tops whatever joke im thinkin of lol (NH NM)
thebuttonfreak 5:12 AM - 7 February, 2013
Hey ChrisD, what's up with midi out?
the_black_one 5:12 AM - 7 February, 2013
did someone say BLACK????
DJ Gone Fishing 5:16 AM - 7 February, 2013
Been fishing for the past two weeks, I'm going next week also!

Fishing is peaceful and tranquil!

I think i will go trout fishing on friday to warm up for next week's sturgeon trip!
AKIEM 5:17 AM - 7 February, 2013
Stallone, man fucking Stallone!
the_black_one 5:20 AM - 7 February, 2013
fishing???? whats on your head?
DJ Gone Fishing 5:25 AM - 7 February, 2013
Fishing and djing is the best combination!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:26 AM - 7 February, 2013
You should try it some time!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:27 AM - 7 February, 2013
But its not for everyone, just like djing is not for everyone!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:29 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Traktor is the bomb It's the truth!!!



Watchwww.youtube.com


"You can learn a lot, from a Dummy".

He make Traktor look GOOD AS HELL there for a moment....


What's up my dude I miss you (no homo)!


YO! Whaddup mayne?

It will take a Nation Of Millions..... :-D !
DJ Gone Fishing 5:32 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Quote:
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Traktor is the bomb It's the truth!!!



Watchwww.youtube.com


"You can learn a lot, from a Dummy".

He make Traktor look GOOD AS HELL there for a moment....


Whats up cat how have you been?

What's up my dude I miss you (no homo)!


YO! Whaddup mayne?

It will take a Nation Of Millions..... :-D !
DJ Gone Fishing 5:34 AM - 7 February, 2013
Whats up cat?

Johnny how have you been?

It does take a Nation Of Millions to hold us back!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:34 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Whats up cat how have you been?


Chillin' mayne...

Tryin' to keep these fools in check... you ain't missed a damn thang...
DJ Gone Fishing 5:44 AM - 7 February, 2013
I know, I see that!!!

But its always cool when they have a cat like you here.

It lets me know, there is still hope for the real hip hop heads of the world.

Have you been spinning lately?
DJ Gone Fishing 5:47 AM - 7 February, 2013
We have to jam together one day!

Come to caly I'll put you on.

Or I will come there.
DJ Gone Fishing 5:50 AM - 7 February, 2013
You have a open invitation!
Laz219 6:07 AM - 7 February, 2013
A lot of this could be copy and paste from the DJ shadow thread.

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Fishing and djing is the best combination!


Do you do these at the same time?
Tractors, Boats, fish and music....
nik39 6:08 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I know, I see that!!!

But its always cool when they have a cat like you here.

You just discredited yourself. Kthxbye.
Laz219 6:09 AM - 7 February, 2013
Don't you have to have credit, to be discredited?
DJ Gone Fishing 6:12 AM - 7 February, 2013
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A lot of this could be copy and paste from the DJ shadow thread.

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Fishing and djing is the best combination!


Do you do these at the same time?
Tractors, Boats, fish and music....


Com on get real dude, NO

But I do play mixed cd's on my boat!

I play music,On the way out to fish when i get their its all about fishing!

You should try it sometime!
nik39 6:12 AM - 7 February, 2013
Minus minus. In this case minus minus does not equal plus. ;)
DJ Gone Fishing 6:14 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Minus minus. In this case minus minus does not equal plus. ;)


I've heard you dj enough said!

Leave me be, non skilled dj
Laz219 6:15 AM - 7 February, 2013
You never know, I've DJed on plenty of boats. Nothing really stopping me throwing a line in (besides I find fishing exceptionally boring)
DJ Gone Fishing 6:15 AM - 7 February, 2013
Now they send the resident non skilled at me!
Laz219 6:16 AM - 7 February, 2013
Nik- I hope you realize what you've gotten yourself into. Expect many many posts to be made. All in a row, without you having to say a thing.
nik39 6:16 AM - 7 February, 2013
I think his complaint was legit. Bezzle often does not respect the thin line of insulting people. But 4real...complaining about Bezzle on one hand and this on the other hand - lol. That says it all.

But then he is in great company with people who judge with two different standards: complaining about racial slurs against black people and at the same time starting attacks against gay people. We've seen that in the forum already. Thank god those people have been banned back then. Unfortunately some of these guys came back.
DJ Gone Fishing 6:16 AM - 7 February, 2013
It takes a real controlled mind to fish!
nik39 6:18 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Nik- I hope you realize what you've gotten yourself into. Expect many many posts to be made. All in a row, without you having to say a thing.

Lol. Yeah, let them speak for themselves.
DJ Gone Fishing 6:18 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I think his complaint was legit. Bezzle often does not respect the thin line of insulting people. But 4real...complaining about Bezzle on one hand and this on the other hand - lol. That says it all.

But then he is in great company with people who judge with two different standards: complaining about racial slurs against black people and at the same time starting attacks against gay people. We've seen that in the forum already. Thank god those people have been banned back then. Unfortunately some of these guys came back.



I go where I please, if you and bezzie leave me alone all will be fine!
Laz219 6:18 AM - 7 February, 2013
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It takes a real controlled mind to fish!


Can you please explain this to me?....why does it?
DJ Gone Fishing 6:19 AM - 7 February, 2013
I will always speak the truth!
thebuttonfreak 6:19 AM - 7 February, 2013
I'm not sure why but this post is hilarious.
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It takes a real controlled mind to fish!
DJ Gone Fishing 6:21 AM - 7 February, 2013
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It takes a real controlled mind to fish!


Can you please explain this to me?....why does it?


Its a fishing thing, you will never understand!

I cannot explain too you something you will never understand!
thebuttonfreak 6:22 AM - 7 February, 2013
It's like trying to understand the nature of existence man.
DJ Gone Fishing 6:22 AM - 7 February, 2013
None of you know nothing of me, your just here for the comic content!
thebuttonfreak 6:23 AM - 7 February, 2013
duh...
DJ Gone Fishing 6:25 AM - 7 February, 2013
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It's like trying to understand the nature of existence man.


Its up to you, too see it how you want too!

You have to figure it out for your self sounds like you have your mind made up and i will not change that!

Nobody can!

Only you can understand what you want to understand!
Laz219 6:26 AM - 7 February, 2013
That was established about a month back.

I still fail to see why you need a controlled mind to throw a string in some water.
Laz219 6:26 AM - 7 February, 2013
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It's like trying to understand the nature of existence man.


Its up to you, too see it how you want too!

You have to figure it out for your self sounds like you have your mind made up and i will not change that!

Nobody can!

Only you can understand what you want to understand!


I want to understand, but you won't assist me.
DJ Gone Fishing 6:27 AM - 7 February, 2013
I came here to talk about tracktor!

All of a sudden its the three stooges show!
DJ Gone Fishing 6:29 AM - 7 February, 2013
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That was established about a month back.

I still fail to see why you need a controlled mind to throw a string in some water.


if you don't get it i can't make you get it!

Only you can can make up your own mind!
DJ Gone Fishing 6:30 AM - 7 February, 2013
If you don't like fishing , that's your choice!
nik39 6:33 AM - 7 February, 2013
Oh, I see there is a history with Bezzle and fishing man. Haha. At least Bezzle is funny sometimes.... And intentionality funny :)

All good. Live and let live. That's what a fisherman should know.
Laz219 6:33 AM - 7 February, 2013
So what is so good about Traktor anyway?
Laz219 6:34 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Oh, I see there is a history with Bezzle and fishing man. Haha. At least Bezzle is funny sometimes.... And intentionality funny :)

All good. Live and let live. That's what a fisherman should know.


If you haven't seen it, you missed a truly excellent thread.
serato.com
DJ Gone Fishing 6:35 AM - 7 February, 2013
I am not here to be funny, or to be made fun of, remember your own rules.

BE NICE TO OTHERS!
Laz219 6:37 AM - 7 February, 2013
This is a serious question, you describe SSL as 'plain jane' software.
I'm just wondering what really enticed you to switch to Traktor?
DJ Gone Fishing 6:42 AM - 7 February, 2013
Bezzie should play with those that like to be played with.

Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!
FabulousFrequencies 6:45 AM - 7 February, 2013
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That is not being nice to others!


Neither is hoisting up 2 WHITE fish in your avatar like trophys and playing a black victim..

::: runs
DJ Gone Fishing 6:47 AM - 7 February, 2013
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This is a serious question, you describe SSL as 'plain jane' software.
I'm just wondering what really enticed you to switch to Traktor?



Instead of complaining about what SSL does not have, like most on this site. I went and found a system that suits me and that would be tracktor!

But is not for everyone, Its all about choices, and that was my choice to go with tractor as my main djing staple.

I still use ssl when i have too.
DJ Gone Fishing 6:50 AM - 7 February, 2013
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That is not being nice to others!


Neither is hoisting up 2 WHITE fish in your avatar like trophys and playing a black victim..

::: runs


Save the drama!

Turm the page!

If you knew anything about salmon they are black and white.

Funny time is over!
nik39 6:52 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Bezzie should play with those that like to be played with.

Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!

First of all he did not say YOU were playing with a dildo.

Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.
FabulousFrequencies 6:52 AM - 7 February, 2013
Funny time is never over on this forum.. The funny guys will not allow it.
DJ Gone Fishing 6:54 AM - 7 February, 2013
Some on this site can not dj so they go to being a comic!

Or inslut to try to make up for their own lacking of dj skills!
DJ Gone Fishing 6:55 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Bezzie should play with those that like to be played with.

Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!

First of all he did not say YOU were playing with a dildo.

Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


I heard you play with them when you play dress like a woman or is it a man!

I would not know!
DJ Gone Fishing 6:57 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Bezzie should play with those that like to be played with.

Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!

First of all he did not say YOU were playing with a dildo.

Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


I know I am a man but truly what are you?
FabulousFrequencies 6:57 AM - 7 February, 2013
All I wanna know, and i'm bein real here, Is wtf is there a black Christmas tree covering your face in that avitar? Then i'll gladly move on.
DJ Gone Fishing 6:58 AM - 7 February, 2013
I am asking you a serious question of you nik?

No disrespect!
thebuttonfreak 7:01 AM - 7 February, 2013
I'm making this my 2013 mantra.
Quote:
Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.
DJ Gone Fishing 7:04 AM - 7 February, 2013
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All I wanna know, and i'm bein real here, Is wtf is there a black Christmas tree covering your face in that avitar? Then i'll gladly move on.


No I do not want my real dj name or image on this site!

I am not the only one here that hides their real identity, just as you your self are not here with your image or real name!

Stop trying to figure me out I am not here for your amusement or anyone else's!
DJ Gone Fishing 7:07 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I'm making this my 2013 mantra.
Quote:
Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


I learned I am not giving SSL free advertisement , I am not getting paid for it.

When you google each one of your names SSL comes up, they are not going to make money off of my name!
thebuttonfreak 7:10 AM - 7 February, 2013
I googled my name and some dude obsessed with coat buttons on pinterest came up.
DJ Gone Fishing 7:15 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I googled my name and some dude obsessed with coat buttons on pinterest came up.

You be you , Let me be me!
DJ Gone Fishing 7:15 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I googled my name and some dude obsessed with coat buttons on pinterest came up.

You be you , Let me be me!
DJ Gone Fishing 7:15 AM - 7 February, 2013
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I googled my name and some dude obsessed with coat buttons on pinterest came up.

You be you , Let me be me!
the_black_one 7:17 AM - 7 February, 2013
keeps on delivering!!!!
nik39 7:20 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Quote:
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Bezzie should play with those that like to be played with.

Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!

First of all he did not say YOU were playing with a dildo.

Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


I heard you play with them when you play dress like a woman or is it a man!

I would not know!

And now? What's your point?
the_black_one 7:40 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Bezzie should play with those that like to be played with.

Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!

First of all he did not say YOU were playing with a dildo.

Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


I heard you play with them when you play dress like a woman or is it a man!

I would not know!

And now? What's your point?



all you.... get your shit together!!!!
DJ Gone Fishing 7:40 AM - 7 February, 2013
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Bezzie should play with those that like to be played with.

Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!

First of all he did not say YOU were playing with a dildo.

Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


I heard you play with them when you play dress like a woman or is it a man!

I would not know!

And now? What's your point?


I can not answer my own question about you,only you can answer it for yourself.

I guess you want to avoid the topic, its ok I ask a direct question, I did not expect a direct answer.

Not only do want to know, but a a lot of others on here are to afraid to ask you the question I asked of you!

Its cool only you know the real you, and its ok. It is your business!

I still would like to know the answer to the question I asked of you.

But that what you and your site is about to run away from the truth.

I'm out later NIK
nik39 8:15 AM - 7 February, 2013
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But that what you and your site is about to run away from the truth.

The what can explain later you then what?!

;)

Not sure what you're after. The point I am trying to make: It does not matter. It should not matter. It's 2013. Racial discrimination is on the same level as sexual discrimination, or any other type of discrimination. So, if you don't want yourself to be discriminated due to you being black, don't discriminate gay people. Easy as that.

BTW, AFAIK no one discriminated you due to your skin in this thread. You were the one pulling the "black" card.
thebuttonfreak 8:17 AM - 7 February, 2013
nik39 8:25 AM - 7 February, 2013
Very male ;)
PorkyG 9:07 AM - 7 February, 2013
This thread turned out to be a lot of fun but wrong at the same time.

It's now like watching the Special Olympics, you know you should turn the channel & stop laughing but you just can't get yourself to do either one.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:14 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I know, I see that!!!

But its always cool when they have a cat like you here.

It lets me know, there is still hope for the real hip hop heads of the world.

Have you been spinning lately?


Ha! Thanks man....

There are still a FEW cats on here who actually have skill, and can back it up...

I still spin, unfortunately, I sometimes have to play "Current" HipHop ....***sigh***

I was about to do more time on Stickam, but that site has an expiration date, but it's good to see you on here man...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:16 PM - 7 February, 2013
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We have to jam together one day!

Come to caly I'll put you on.

Or I will come there.


Werd....

There's a few Cali cats on here who are straight funky like Sheak and Ksmizz, so that would be the bizznizz, or maybe one day, the East Coast can get it together and throw one...lmao.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:25 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I know, I see that!!!

But its always cool when they have a cat like you here.

You just discredited yourself. Kthxbye.


Ha, don't listen to this guy ^^^ --> he's still walking around like this acting like a forum cop ------->>>>>www.djjohnnym.com/serato/niksquad.jpg.

But on the real tho, the Mods here are NOW mad cool, so I can vouch for ChrisD...

Before they used to let Nik run amok, that's not the case now....but don't let him bait you into yesteryear's BS....

He mad....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
EMBED FAIL www.djjohnnym.com

;-D
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:27 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Minus minus. In this case minus minus does not equal plus. ;)


I've heard you dj enough said!

Leave me be, non skilled dj


This is absolute GOSPEL....

They actually got on him about his song selection....lmaoo....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:30 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I think his complaint was legit. Bezzle often does not respect the thin line of insulting people. But 4real...complaining about Bezzle on one hand and this on the other hand - lol. That says it all.

But then he is in great company with people who judge with two different standards: complaining about racial slurs against black people and at the same time starting attacks against gay people. We've seen that in the forum already. Thank god those people have been banned back then. Unfortunately some of these guys came back.


Yep, he mad....

Damn son, you still butthurt? I thought you had that Browser Filter that you created in Basic that are supposed to block my posts...

I love the fact that you took time out of your REAL LIFE to devote such a project to me...

That is the biggest compliment ever....seriously....

lol...

This thread delivers....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:38 PM - 7 February, 2013
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smh @ you saying it's OK for a male to be playing with a DILDO in 2013 and calling it "NORMAL"....

It may be "Normal" for you......but....for the bulk of us with Testosterone flowing through our veins, that's not exactly a Superbowl halftime event.... :-D!
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Thats not me, even when i seen all the things posted of me by him i did not respond for weeks, till he said I play with dildo's.

That is not being nice to others!

First of all he did not say YOU were playing with a dildo.

Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


I heard you play with them when you play dress like a woman or is it a man!

I would not know!

And now? What's your point?


That you still can't DJ.....lol!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:40 PM - 7 February, 2013
See, SOME WOMEN can dress up while DJ'ing, (aka wear a bikini), and a lot of us will give her a pass if there are some "benefits" involved....

You don't get a pass mayne.....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Racial discrimination is on the same level as sexual discrimination, or any other type of discrimination.


Here goes ANOTHER ONE, trying to equate SLAVERY with GAY PRIDE....

Find some other coat"tails" to ride on, that gets no love around here....

They are NOT on the same level....at all...ever...

As a matter of fact, there are PLENTY of Black folk who don't accept or agree with a "Gay" lifestyle, so then all of a sudden you want to call those BLACK folk Hypocrites....

lmao....that's laughable...

I'd tell you to eat a bowl of *****ks, but you'd probably like that...lmao...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:46 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Some on this site can not dj so they go to being a comic!

Or inslut to try to make up for their own lacking of dj skills!


Quoted for truth...I call them out all the time....

Someone like Nik doesn't even register anymore, except as comedy relief...
nik39 12:59 PM - 7 February, 2013
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This thread turned out to be a lot of fun but wrong at the same time.

It's now like watching the Special Olympics, you know you should turn the channel & stop laughing but you just can't get yourself to do either one.

Haha, indeed. :)

Here is a funny thread the die-hard-battle-guys want to laugh about
serato.com

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FINAL SCORE:

Sixxx (28) VS Johnny (6)

Okay, let's make it 27 to 6 (I have subtracted my one vote, since I am not a DJ, that's cool).
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:07 PM - 7 February, 2013
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This thread turned out to be a lot of fun but wrong at the same time.

It's now like watching the Special Olympics, you know you should turn the channel & stop laughing but you just can't get yourself to do either one.

Haha, indeed. :)

Here is a funny thread the die-hard-battle-guys want to laugh about
serato.com

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FINAL SCORE:

Sixxx (28) VS Johnny (6)

Okay, let's make it 27 to 6 (I have subtracted my one vote, since I am not a DJ, that's cool).


You're always doing something half-azzed...

At LEAST post the damn vids --->>> www.djjohnnym.com

I see that filter ain't workin' to good huh?

And oh, you still wanna battle with PAYCHECKS?

LMAO.....

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Still mad cause I get more money with donations in a month than you make in a year with your self made, home printed Internet degree at your daily job? (I was giving you the benefit of a doubt assuming you had some Microsoft certification - at least they have some sort of "exams" :)

So... With your 44yrs you still haven't heard about the deadly sins? Jealousy is one of those. And it's obvious that you're also jealous of Akiems work too. Poor man.


Wait....LOL, you wanna BATTLE with PAYCHECKS????

Forreal?

Ok, last year this time, I didn't break 100K... www.djjohnnym.com

THIS TIME...

I did....

www.djjohnnym.com

Now go take your "TechMate" badge and go sit in the corner and compile something really nice, OK?

Thanks!

www.djjohnnym.com


Man, you fail all day...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:10 PM - 7 February, 2013
So let's sum this up...

1. You have NO DJ SKILLS...
2. You have no REAL Money...
3. And you think it's OK for men to play with dildos in 2013...

Yeah, you and Charlie Sheen are "Winning"....
nik39 1:13 PM - 7 February, 2013
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i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.

Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights


i0.kym-cdn.com
phatbob 1:15 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Racial discrimination is on the same level as sexual discrimination, or any other type of discrimination.


Here goes ANOTHER ONE, trying to equate SLAVERY with GAY PRIDE....

Find some other coat"tails" to ride on, that gets no love around here....

They are NOT on the same level....at all...ever...

As a matter of fact, there are PLENTY of Black folk who don't accept or agree with a "Gay" lifestyle, so then all of a sudden you want to call those BLACK folk Hypocrites....

lmao....that's laughable...

I'd tell you to eat a bowl of *****ks, but you'd probably like that...lmao...


Nice little homophobic dig at the end there. Bravo. Well done. You're so witty.

Tell us some more about how discrimination is OK as long as it isn't towards you.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:27 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Nice little homophobic dig at the end there. Bravo. Well done. You're so witty.

Tell us some more about how discrimination is OK as long as it isn't towards you.


Hold up, I wasn't even TALKING to you, and if you got offended, well...too bad...

There are PLENTY of Religions that preach that Homosexuality isn't something they endorse.

However, I'm not going around trying to equate it with YEARS of Slavery...

They can generate their OWN following, versus trying to ride on the backs of those who built this country...

And YES, I have a problem with that.

Truth be told, Homosexuals can do whatever they want, and there may be some folks who choose not to live that lifestyle or associate with those who do...

But nobody said to hang them from a tree, or tie them to the back of a truck and drag them down the street...
It is what it is.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:28 PM - 7 February, 2013
And I've been discriminated against for YEARS....

You didn't know that the most dangerous thing on this earth is a Well Spoken Black Man?

www.djjohnnym.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:30 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights


i0.kym-cdn.com


No your LEVEL OF DJ SKILL determines your DJ SKILL...

We've seen, and are not impressed....
nik39 1:35 PM - 7 February, 2013
lol. Not only homophobic but you also picked up and posted other racial attacks.

Man.... That's so lame.

Big mouth, bragging... and delivered ... well 26-to-6. That says it all. :)
phatbob 1:36 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Nice little homophobic dig at the end there. Bravo. Well done. You're so witty.

Tell us some more about how discrimination is OK as long as it isn't towards you.


Hold up, I wasn't even TALKING to you, and if you got offended, well...too bad...

There are PLENTY of Religions that preach that Homosexuality isn't something they endorse.

However, I'm not going around trying to equate it with YEARS of Slavery...

They can generate their OWN following, versus trying to ride on the backs of those who built this country...

And YES, I have a problem with that.

Truth be told, Homosexuals can do whatever they want, and there may be some folks who choose not to live that lifestyle or associate with those who do...

But nobody said to hang them from a tree, or tie them to the back of a truck and drag them down the street...
It is what it is.


Right, so discrimination IS ok unless it's against you.

Good to know where you stand.

Thanks for clarifying.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Big mouth, bragging... and delivered ... well 26-to-6. That says it all. :)


And what exactly have you "DELIVERED"?

No DJ Skill
No Paychecks to "Brag" about, but you clearly challenged me on that....
And again, you think it's OK for MEN to play with Dildos in 2013.

Yep, you should work for Fed Ex, as you are a model delivery man...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:45 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Right, so discrimination IS ok unless it's against you.

Good to know where you stand.

Thanks for clarifying.


So are you saying that those who FOLLOW THEIR RELIGION are "Discriminating" if they don't "embrace" homosexuality?
nik39 1:49 PM - 7 February, 2013
Still mad cause I make more $$ with donations for that software than you make! And that's without having to work at a 26to6, uhm sorry.. 9to5.

All good. We're still friends. :) You know that. YOU know that.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:53 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Still mad cause I make more $$ with donations for that software than you make! And that's without having to work at a 26to6, uhm sorry.. 9to5.

All good. We're still friends. :) You know that. YOU know that.


Ok, so where are the snapshots of the "donations"?

Again, I've shown and proved...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:54 PM - 7 February, 2013
Like I said before....

www.djjohnnym.com
phatbob 1:54 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So are you saying that those who FOLLOW THEIR RELIGION are "Discriminating" if they don't "embrace" homosexuality?


No I'm not. But those people who make homophobic remarks on forums ARE discriminating.

It's a fairly simple distinction.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:03 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So are you saying that those who FOLLOW THEIR RELIGION are "Discriminating" if they don't "embrace" homosexuality?


No I'm not. But those people who make homophobic remarks on forums ARE discriminating.

It's a fairly simple distinction.


That wasn't a "homophobic" remark, that was a "truth based" remark based on the fact that he said he's OK with men using dildos in 2013.

So you're saying Men who like using dildos in 2013, wouldn't be happy with a bowl?
phatbob 2:04 PM - 7 February, 2013
Oh, and by the way, Johnny, you read what the bible has to say about slavery lately?

www.evilbible.com

www.religioustolerance.org

I guess if people choose to follow THAT part of their religion, that's fine by you, right?
phatbob 2:06 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I'd tell you to eat a bowl of *****ks, but you'd probably like that...lmao...


At least remember the shit you wrote before you try and defend it, BTW.
phatbob 2:09 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Oh, and by the way, Johnny, you read what the bible has to say about slavery lately?

www.evilbible.com

www.religioustolerance.org

I guess if people choose to follow THAT part of their religion, that's fine by you, right?


A nice statistic to go with that: www.gallup.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:20 PM - 7 February, 2013
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At least remember the shit you wrote before you try and defend it, BTW.


Hey, if you're going to quote, let's put it in proper context...

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Second there is nothing wrong if you werr playing with a dildo. Yes, even if you're male. No one cares. It's 2013. Get a life instead of caring about such normal things.


Now we have a complete story....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:22 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Oh, and by the way, Johnny, you read what the bible has to say about slavery lately?

www.evilbible.com

www.religioustolerance.org

I guess if people choose to follow THAT part of their religion, that's fine by you, right?


A nice statistic to go with that: www.gallup.com


Unfortunately, if you're not someone who believes in my religion, why would I try and convince myself of the believings of yours?

Or are you posting something you don't believe in?
Will08272 2:25 PM - 7 February, 2013
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:27 PM - 7 February, 2013

ROTFL!!!!
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Awwwwwww lookatdakittys!!!
DJ Dynamite - NJ 2:57 PM - 7 February, 2013
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i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.

Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights


i0.kym-cdn.com


No your LEVEL OF DJ SKILL determines your DJ SKILL...

We've seen, and are not impressed....

DJJOHNNYM... It seems you're just on here tryin to rip everybody. I never had an issue with you on this forum. I've also never met you in person. So explain to me when and where you've seen my LEVEL OF DJ SKILL?
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i sure hope you can dj, cuz that promo pic is one of the corniest things i've ever seen.

Yes.. my promo pic determines my level of DJ skill. Come back with something relevant or go play with your flashy lights


i0.kym-cdn.com


No your LEVEL OF DJ SKILL determines your DJ SKILL...

We've seen, and are not impressed....

DJJOHNNYM... It seems you're just on here tryin to rip everybody. I never had an issue with you on this forum. I've also never met you in person. So explain to me when and where you've seen my LEVEL OF DJ SKILL?


Dude, I'm not even TALKING TO YOU....lol..

That was Nik who was quoting you, to represent HIMSELF...

C'mon man, we're from Jerz....

I wouldn't do that to you....


















unless you wanted some on the REALISITIC..... :-D!

But if you think I'm just on here tryin' to "RIP" cats, we can do it....
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:06 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I ain't scared of the REALISTIC... I'm not one of these cats that have never touched an OG stiff crossfaders with no fader curve...LOL
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:11 PM - 7 February, 2013
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unless you wanted some on the REALISITIC..... :-D!
I ain't scared of the REALISTIC... I'm not one of these cats that have never touched an OG stiff crossfaders with no fader curve...LOL


Oh, my crossfaders aren't stiff, well I guess in comparison to these Innovator/Rane faders they are, but you get whe I mean...

Nah dude, u from (or at least reppin' Jerz), no disrespect...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:13 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Nah dude, u from (or at least reppin' Jerz), no disrespect...


Hold up, before I give you that pass....















Are you co-signing men playing with dildos in 2013?
The Real DJ Pauly D 3:15 PM - 7 February, 2013
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unless you wanted some on the REALISITIC..... :-D!
I ain't scared of the REALISTIC... I'm not one of these cats that have never touched an OG stiff crossfaders with no fader curve...LOL


Oh, my crossfaders aren't stiff, well I guess in comparison to these Innovator/Rane faders they are, but you get whe I mean...

Nah dude, u from (or at least reppin' Jerz), no disrespect...


Same to you bro.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 3:20 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Hold up, before I give you that pass....















Are you co-signing men playing with dildos in 2013?

If a man wants to play with a dildo that's his business. But I don't wanna see it or know about it. What a man does in the privacy of his own home is between him and whoever is there with him. (NH, NM)
DJ DisGrace 3:28 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I ain't scared of the REALISTIC... I'm not one of these cats that have never touched an OG stiff crossfaders with no fader curve...LOL


Oh, my crossfaders aren't stiff, well I guess in comparison to these Innovator/Rane faders they are, but you get whe I mean...

Nah dude, u from (or at least reppin' Jerz), no disrespect...


Same to you bro.

haha my favorite fictional character on the forum!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:29 PM - 7 February, 2013
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***THIS is all I'm sayin****

But hey, you may now be homophobic because of that post...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:29 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I ain't scared of the REALISTIC... I'm not one of these cats that have never touched an OG stiff crossfaders with no fader curve...LOL


Oh, my crossfaders aren't stiff, well I guess in comparison to these Innovator/Rane faders they are, but you get whe I mean...

Nah dude, u from (or at least reppin' Jerz), no disrespect...


Same to you bro.


ha ha....Ok that wuz funny.
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:30 PM - 7 February, 2013
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DJ Gone Fishing 4:36 PM - 7 February, 2013
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But that what you and your site is about to run away from the truth.

The what can explain later you then what?!

;)

Not sure what you're after. The point I am trying to make: It does not matter. It should not matter. It's 2013. Racial discrimination is on the same level as sexual discrimination, or any other type of discrimination. So, if you don't want yourself to be discriminated due to you being black, don't discriminate gay people. Easy as that.

BTW, AFAIK no one discriminated you due to your skin in this thread. You were the one pulling the "black" card.


This comment is coming from a person that uploaded a youtube video of two black teenage girls dancing on youtube having fun.
You NIK 39 called those children everything from TWO BIG BLACK MAMMA,S, BIG BLACK COWS, TO BIG BLACK HEFFA"S!
Now you want to piggy back ride off of slavery, Upload that blast from the past!

Spoken like a true hypocrite!

Now let me get back to my $48 dollar an hour job that I get a real paycheck for, See you at 4:30 or so western standard time!

Yes I have a job I am a Iron worker/ Welder, welding the new Bart to Oakland Airport connection!

Bye see yall later!
AKIEM 4:37 PM - 7 February, 2013
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And I've been discriminated against for YEARS....


Really, I thought your current ID protected you from the bad man?

Lol

***sigh***


nm
DJ DisGrace 4:39 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I thought real pro fisherman got paid?
www.ehow.com
thebuttonfreak 4:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
The black community is completely hypocritical about gay rights. They are the main reason the right to marry law failed in California. And nic39 is right, the bible supports slavery, does that mean slavery wasn't wrong? Since you're such a religious man. in fact it speaks about laws on slavery much much more than it ever mentions homosexuality.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:46 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Really, I thought your current ID protected you from the bad man?

Lol

***sigh***

nm


That's not to say they didn't DISCRIMINATE against me in the first place...

The ID allowed me to avoid detainment and possible prosecution....
DJ DisGrace 4:46 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Since you're such a religious man

I think he implied that the bible wasn't hi thing. Not like any of the other book are any better in that regard.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:47 PM - 7 February, 2013
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And you are WHAT color again?
thebuttonfreak 4:47 PM - 7 February, 2013
Yet he defends his "right" to be a homophobe based on his religious views.
thebuttonfreak 4:49 PM - 7 February, 2013
Dark brown and of a particular religion that has endured centuries of persecution and murder. as if that had anything to do with it.

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:51 PM - 7 February, 2013
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And you are WHAT color again?


Ok, let's play word games...

What ETHNICITY are you again?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:51 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So, you're saying anyone who has certain religious views are homophobes?
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:53 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Really, I thought your current ID protected you from the bad man?

Lol

***sigh***


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ROTFL!!!! GREAT CALL BACK!!!!
thebuttonfreak 4:54 PM - 7 February, 2013
What does that matter? I'm an ethnicity that people hate and discriminate against. Does that mean I get to call the black community hypocritical?
thebuttonfreak 4:56 PM - 7 February, 2013
Anyone who has those certain religious views is a homophobe, absolutely. Just like anyone who supports slavery based on the teachings of the bible in the 1850's in the southern united states was a racist. Slavery in the US was on solid religious ground, a point white slave owners would often make.
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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:57 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ok, just like I thought....

Throwing stones without identifying yourself...

I'll stand next to Sixxx's statement -

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nm


Wow, someone not afraid to talk about another race, but yet won't be proud enough to identify theirs....

Yep...
nik39 4:58 PM - 7 February, 2013
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This comment is coming from a person that uploaded a youtube video of two black teenage girls dancing on youtube having fun.

Uhm, sure, I have uploaded a video to youtube, but not with anyone dancing. Except myself maybe.

Are you sure you know what you're talking about, Mr. Fisherman?

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ou NIK 39 called those children everything from TWO BIG BLACK MAMMA,S, BIG BLACK COWS, TO BIG BLACK HEFFA"S!

Son... you're not trying to say (directly or implicitly) that I am discriminating black people? For real? Do you know anything about me?

I don't even know what a "HEFFA*S" is. LOL!

Dude, ... I really don't know what to say. LOL!

Other than.. I have not been banned multiple times for: ignoring the forum rules, starting racial attacks, posting homophobic stuff, and the list goes on.... So maybe you should be careful about who you let feeding you with information.
AKIEM 4:58 PM - 7 February, 2013
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The black community is completely hypocritical about gay rights. They are the main reason the right to marry law failed in California. And nic39 is right, the bible supports slavery, does that mean slavery wasn't wrong? Since you're such a religious man. in fact it speaks about laws on slavery much much more than it ever mentions homosexuality.


Hold up. First the Black community has the RIGHT to be hypocritical. Second, there is not hypocrisy. The media and other naysayers tried to pit the Black community against the "gay" community by over publicizing those meaningless statistics. The proposition asked a "religious" question and got a religious answer. The problem is with the question in the first place - it's not constitutional. Undermines the first amendment.

In defense of the bible (fuck) the type of slavery in the spoken of in the bible is something vastly different then the "type" of slavery practice in the americas. Should not even have the same name.

I'm going to disagree greatly with Nik here and say there can not be a comparison between what happened to Black people, or Native people in the states and discrimination against gays.

Discrimination is evil regardless but trying to equate it all is a disservice and dishonor and can only really be done from the point of view of the discriminator, "black, fags, what's the difference?" said a man in a sheet.
thebuttonfreak 4:59 PM - 7 February, 2013
FIne, it's stupid but I'll play your game. I'm a Sephardic Jew from france. My parents are from north africa. My family was persecuted, had their land and property taken from them and forced out of their country of birth. Are my brown people credentials enough for you?
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:03 PM - 7 February, 2013
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What does that matter? I'm an ethnicity that people hate and discriminate against. Does that mean I get to call the black community hypocritical?


Ok, just like I thought....

Throwing stones without identifying yourself...

I'll stand next to Sixxx's statement -

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Oh good. Finally we can get rid of this poser.

nm


Wow, someone not afraid to talk about another race, but yet won't be proud enough to identify theirs....

Yep...

www.atheistmemebase.com
thebuttonfreak 5:03 PM - 7 February, 2013
THe bible saw slavery in the same way as it was seen by white slave owners in the south. Slaves were property, to be done with as their master saw fit.
And your arguments are the same logic used by white slave owners in the south. It was their constitutional right (and it was) to own people as property. Just as their religion dictated they could. SO they also saw it as a first amendment right.

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Hold up. First the Black community has the RIGHT to be hypocritical. Second, there is not hypocrisy. The media and other naysayers tried to pit the Black community against the "gay" community by over publicizing those meaningless statistics. The proposition asked a "religious" question and got a religious answer. The problem is with the question in the first place - it's not constitutional. Undermines the first amendment.

In defense of the bible (fuck) the type of slavery in the spoken of in the bible is something vastly different then the "type" of slavery practice in the americas. Should not even have the same name.
nik39 5:04 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Discrimination is evil regardless

That was my main point.

The principle of discrimination is the same. The same methods are being used. "You are different than we are. You are bad."
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:04 PM - 7 February, 2013
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FIne, it's stupid but I'll play your game. I'm a Sephardic Jew from france. My parents are from north africa. My family was persecuted, had their land and property taken from them and forced out of their country of birth. Are my brown people credentials enough for you?


And you are sitting here condeming another race who's been enslaved FOR years by calling them hypocritical against GAYS because they (the gays) are trying to equate that to SLAVERY?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:06 PM - 7 February, 2013
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The black community is completely hypocritical about gay rights. They are the main reason the right to marry law failed in California. And nic39 is right, the bible supports slavery, does that mean slavery wasn't wrong? Since you're such a religious man. in fact it speaks about laws on slavery much much more than it ever mentions homosexuality.


Hold up. First the Black community has the RIGHT to be hypocritical. Second, there is not hypocrisy. The media and other naysayers tried to pit the Black community against the "gay" community by over publicizing those meaningless statistics. The proposition asked a "religious" question and got a religious answer. The problem is with the question in the first place - it's not constitutional. Undermines the first amendment.

In defense of the bible (fuck) the type of slavery in the spoken of in the bible is something vastly different then the "type" of slavery practice in the americas. Should not even have the same name.

I'm going to disagree greatly with Nik here and say there can not be a comparison between what happened to Black people, or Native people in the states and discrimination against gays.

Discrimination is evil regardless but trying to equate it all is a disservice and dishonor and can only really be done from the point of view of the discriminator, "black, fags, what's the difference?" said a man in a sheet.


Awww sh*ttt.....

www.djjohnnym.com
thebuttonfreak 5:06 PM - 7 February, 2013
Yes. Including many of my own people. Though we have been more progressive on the issue than the black community.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:08 PM - 7 February, 2013
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In defense of the bible (fuck) the type of slavery in the spoken of in the bible is something vastly different then the "type" of slavery practice in the americas. Should not even have the same name.




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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:08 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yes. Including many of my own people. Though we have been more progressive on the issue than the black community.


And you're saying this because???????
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:10 PM - 7 February, 2013
thebuttonfreak 5:11 PM - 7 February, 2013
Because Jews didn't kill a marriage equality bill in california with their votes, they overwhelmingly supported it. And they haven't released 1000's of homophobic music into the world. But the more conservative parts of the jewish community are still wrong (and hypocritical) on the issue.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:11 PM - 7 February, 2013
thebuttonfreak 5:13 PM - 7 February, 2013
Ys, he's just that religion based on the bible, but he's not really about the bible. See the difference?
sixxx 5:15 PM - 7 February, 2013
I fall asleep and wake up to a thread that just went sideways. lol

I don't understand how religious people can be called homophobic if they don't agree with gay people (say marriage) base on their religion.

other than that. Proceed lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:16 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Because Jews didn't kill a marriage equality bill in california with their votes, they overwhelmingly supported it. And they haven't released 1000's of homophobic music into the world. But the more conservative parts of the jewish community are still wrong (and hypocritical) on the issue.


So, you're mad at the Black Community for supposidly not passing a marriage equality bill in Cali?

When all the time, them even GETTING THE RIGHT TO VOTE for YEARS isn't even on your radar?

Moreso, you'd say they were hypocritical against GAYS....but you'd like to EQUATE them to GAYS...
And yet, you're not even black...

****BLANK STARE****
AKIEM 5:17 PM - 7 February, 2013
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THe bible saw slavery in the same way as it was seen by white slave owners in the south. Slaves were property, to be done with as their master saw fit.
And your arguments are the same logic used by white slave owners in the south. It was their constitutional right (and it was) to own people as property. Just as their religion dictated they could. SO they also saw it as a first amendment right.


Wrong. Biblical slavery allowed a slave to become head of the House. That could NEVER happen on this side of the ocean. That alone is a large enough distinction in my book to say the same word should not even be used. The type of slavery that developed in the us had not too many historical examples, it was something new. It placed an entire "race" of people into servitude, it was a universal genocide. That's not what was happening in the bible.

Fuck out of here with that constitutional shit you are trying to argue. I never said anyone has a constitutional right to discriminate against anyone. Go learn to read some shit.

Slavery was Always unconstitutional - it was so intrenched into the actual hypocritical and twisted mentality of the society that it needed a war and an amendment to force it's end. "all men are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights" or however it's written...

Slave owners were arguing based on States rights being more powerful then federal law. And not only over slavery.

But again, the states trying to control marriage in any form is unconstitutional. The only reason no one wants to deal with the issue framed correctly is to cause the decisions we have currently.


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Hold up. First the Black community has the RIGHT to be hypocritical. Second, there is not hypocrisy. The media and other naysayers tried to pit the Black community against the "gay" community by over publicizing those meaningless statistics. The proposition asked a "religious" question and got a religious answer. The problem is with the question in the first place - it's not constitutional. Undermines the first amendment.

In defense of the bible (fuck) the type of slavery in the spoken of in the bible is something vastly different then the "type" of slavery practice in the americas. Should not even have the same name.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:18 PM - 7 February, 2013
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And they haven't released 1000's of homophobic music into the world.


And you're saying BLACKS do this?

EXCLUSIVELY?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:20 PM - 7 February, 2013
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This comment is coming from a person that uploaded a youtube video of two black teenage girls dancing on youtube having fun.

Uhm, sure, I have uploaded a video to youtube, but not with anyone dancing. Except myself maybe.

Are you sure you know what you're talking about, Mr. Fisherman?

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ou NIK 39 called those children everything from TWO BIG BLACK MAMMA,S, BIG BLACK COWS, TO BIG BLACK HEFFA"S!

Son... you're not trying to say (directly or implicitly) that I am discriminating black people? For real? Do you know anything about me?

I don't even know what a "HEFFA*S" is. LOL!

Dude, ... I really don't know what to say. LOL!

Other than.. I have not been banned multiple times for: ignoring the forum rules, starting racial attacks, posting homophobic stuff, and the list goes on.... So maybe you should be careful about who you let feeding you with information.


Black COWS? Really?

Pot Meet Kettle....
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:21 PM - 7 February, 2013
Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:23 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So maybe you should be careful about who you let feeding you with information.


Or else....

www.djjohnnym.com
AKIEM 5:23 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Because Jews didn't kill a marriage equality bill in california with their votes, they overwhelmingly supported it. And they haven't released 1000's of homophobic music into the world. But the more conservative parts of the jewish community are still wrong (and hypocritical) on the issue.


Jews in California, rant that religious - obviously.

The question is why was the statistics about how what racial/religious group over publicized? I don't live in California, why did I see that bullshit advertised all over the media?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:23 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


So you'd like to EQUATE Black slavery to White slavery....correct?
AKIEM 5:24 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


They wernt white back then ether.
DJ DisGrace 5:25 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


They wernt white back then ether.

neither were the Egyptians
AKIEM 5:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


All types of evil shit has been done to clans of white people throughout history.
So?
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


So you'd like to EQUATE Black slavery to White slavery....correct?

I equate slavery to slavery period
nik39 5:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
thebuttonfreak 5:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
You do realize that Hebrews (not jews yet then) where not white back then, and that many jews aren't "white" now.

So you'd like to EQUATE Black slavery to White slavery....correct?
AKIEM 5:28 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


So you'd like to EQUATE Black slavery to White slavery....correct?

I equate slavery to slavery period


That's the problem there is a vast spectrum of shit people try to label "slavery" for whatever reason.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:28 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


So you'd like to EQUATE Black slavery to White slavery....correct?

I equate slavery to slavery period


Of course...

Ignore the circumstances, ramifications, retributions (or lack thereof), hell, even the race or sex, right?

Just like those trying to "Water down" The Black People's Plight to the Gay Advocate's Plight...

not.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:29 PM - 7 February, 2013
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White cows:
digital-photo.com.au

Stupid cows:
www.djphonym.com


smh....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:31 PM - 7 February, 2013
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You do realize that Hebrews (not jews yet then) where not white back then, and that many jews aren't "white" now.

So you'd like to EQUATE Black slavery to White slavery....correct?


He SAID -
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right?


And that's what I responded too....

Now you want to play misquote games...
AKIEM 5:32 PM - 7 February, 2013
Lol this thread is supposed to be about Traktor.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:32 PM - 7 February, 2013
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You do realize that Hebrews (not jews yet then) where not white back then, and that many jews aren't "white" now.



Yes thats i seperated the statment
thebuttonfreak 5:33 PM - 7 February, 2013
What a silly distinction. Read the laws on slavery in the bible for yourself, I have. You're making a distinction that doesn't exist. House slaves could also become head of the house in the US. I don't think it means what you think it means.

"all men are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights" is a quote from the declaration of independence, a document that has no legal standing. The constitution makes similar claims but it's quite careful not to include blacks, hence the 3/5 of a man portion of it.

Slave owners used many arguments to support slavery, some religious, some moral, some legal. There is extensive literature on the subject, the religious argument was a powerful one since they could point to the laws of the bible.

The constituion
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THe bible saw slavery in the same way as it was seen by white slave owners in the south. Slaves were property, to be done with as their master saw fit.
And your arguments are the same logic used by white slave owners in the south. It was their constitutional right (and it was) to own people as property. Just as their religion dictated they could. SO they also saw it as a first amendment right.


Wrong. Biblical slavery allowed a slave to become head of the House. That could NEVER happen on this side of the ocean. That alone is a large enough distinction in my book to say the same word should not even be used. The type of slavery that developed in the us had not too many historical examples, it was something new. It placed an entire "race" of people into servitude, it was a universal genocide. That's not what was happening in the bible.

Fuck out of here with that constitutional shit you are trying to argue. I never said anyone has a constitutional right to discriminate against anyone. Go learn to read some shit.

Slavery was Always unconstitutional - it was so intrenched into the actual hypocritical and twisted mentality of the society that it needed a war and an amendment to force it's end. "all men are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights" or however it's written...

Slave owners were arguing based on States rights being more powerful then federal law. And not only over slavery.

But again, the states trying to control marriage in any form is unconstitutional. The only reason no one wants to deal with the issue framed correctly is to cause the decisions we have currently.


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Hold up. First the Black community has the RIGHT to be hypocritical. Second, there is not hypocrisy. The media and other naysayers tried to pit the Black community against the "gay" community by over publicizing those meaningless statistics. The proposition asked a "religious" question and got a religious answer. The problem is with the question in the first place - it's not constitutional. Undermines the first amendment.

In defense of the bible (fuck) the type of slavery in the spoken of in the bible is something vastly different then the "type" of slavery practice in the americas. Should not even have the same name.
AKIEM 5:34 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Yall do realise white people have been slaved at one point or another right? Jews werent exactly running movie studiod and livin the high life in egypt either.


They wernt white back then ether.

neither were the Egyptians


Nobody was. Er... Well somebody was (inside joke)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:34 PM - 7 February, 2013
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What a silly distinction.


When it's convenient....
thebuttonfreak 5:40 PM - 7 February, 2013
So....anyone using Traktor?
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So....anyone using Traktor?

Mostly whites
nik39 5:45 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So....anyone using Traktor?

Shiftee is using Traktor... And that video is one the good ones from Native:

Watchwww.youtube.com
FabulousFrequencies 5:45 PM - 7 February, 2013
Ron Paul (yeah, him) once said that you will never eliminate prejudice of any kind in the world as long as you continue to think with a 'group mentality'. It's not the multitude of barriers that need breached, it is the single one in your own mind.

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So....anyone using Traktor?


These guys are still living in the slavery days, buttons. In their small minds they WERE the traktors. Takes them back to a time they never had to live through so they can claim to be special. Clearly the title of this software and thread is racially provocative and you're to blame now. Best of luck :)
AKIEM 5:49 PM - 7 February, 2013
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What a silly distinction. Read the laws on slavery in the bible for yourself, I have. You're making a distinction that doesn't exist. House slaves could also become head of the house in the US. I don't think it means what you think it means.


If you have read the laws on slavery in the Bible you would know that they hardly resemble the laws on slavery in the Americas, even when they tried to use the bible as justification. I'm not going to bother cracking any books because it's fucking OBVIOUS to anyone being honest.

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"all men are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights" is a quote from the declaration of independence, a document that has no legal standing. The constitution makes similar claims but it's quite careful not to include blacks, hence the 3/5 of a man portion of it.


The constitution also did not exclude Blacks, and did not deal with the issue until that later amendment trying to deal with part of the issues. The exclusion of blacks was done by state slavery laws.

Ether way - the point remains trying to equate the Black struggle in a America to the "gay struggle" is fucking ridiculous. The similarities you can draw are rhetoric and even insulting. Now, I'm not saying gay people deserve any mistreatment or discrimination, it's just... (what word should I use) offensive to make a strict parallel - there is none.

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Slave owners used many arguments to support slavery, some religious, some moral, some legal. There is extensive literature on the subject, the religious argument was a powerful one since they could point to the laws of the bible.


Yeah - people use the bible to say whatever the fuck they want. Bet that's why it's a best seller.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:49 PM - 7 February, 2013
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These guys are still living in the slavery days, buttons. In their small minds they WERE the traktors. Takes them back to a time they never had to live through so they can claim to be special. Clearly the title of this software and thread is racially provocative and you're to blame now. Best of luck :)


So....

You're basically saying that Black folk shouldn't worry about being discriminated against, and they're just living in the past.....correct?
djaction 5:52 PM - 7 February, 2013
how did this turn into a race war again?

wasn't it that Gone Fishing claimed he was singled out for 'name calling' on here by the mods because he's black?

YET

the first person to name call in this thread (bowl of DICKS to ME) was THE BLACK ONE.


HMMMMM.
AKIEM 5:52 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ron Paul (yeah, him) once said that you will never eliminate prejudice of any kind in the world as long as you continue to think with a 'group mentality'. It's not the multitude of barriers that need breached, it is the single one in your own mind.


He should take his own advice and quit being a 'white man'



Yeah, how's that Traktor working for ya?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:52 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ether way - the point remains trying to equate the Black struggle in a America to the "gay struggle" is fucking ridiculous.


That's a mighty Homophobic statement you've made there....
djaction 5:52 PM - 7 February, 2013
how did this turn into a race war again?

wasn't it that Gone Fishing claimed he was singled out for 'name calling' on here by the mods because he's black?

YET

the first person to name call in this thread (bowl of DICKS to ME) was THE BLACK ONE.


HMMMMM.
AKIEM 5:54 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ether way - the point remains trying to equate the Black struggle in a America to the "gay struggle" is fucking ridiculous.


That's a mighty Homophobic statement you've made there....


Well my wife has a gay friend, so I'm obviously not homophobic.

[nh,nm]
FabulousFrequencies 5:57 PM - 7 February, 2013
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He should take his own advice and quit being a 'white man'


You can't change your colors, but you can change your mind.
djaction 5:58 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ether way - the point remains trying to equate the Black struggle in a America to the "gay struggle" is fucking ridiculous.


That's a mighty Homophobic statement you've made there....


Well my wife has a gay friend, so I'm obviously not homophobic.

[nh,nm]


equivalent of "i have black friends" lol or "some of my best friends are black"
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:01 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ether way - the point remains trying to equate the Black struggle in a America to the "gay struggle" is fucking ridiculous.


That's a mighty Homophobic statement you've made there....


Well my wife has a gay friend, so I'm obviously not homophobic.

[nh,nm]


Hell, I'd love for my wife to have Bisexual Female friends....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:02 PM - 7 February, 2013
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how did this turn into a race war again?

wasn't it that Gone Fishing claimed he was singled out for 'name calling' on here by the mods because he's black?

YET

the first person to name call in this thread (bowl of DICKS to ME) was THE BLACK ONE.

HMMMMM.


Oh, he's like Beezle, or Nik - it's widely "accepted" that he would get a "pass"....
djaction 6:03 PM - 7 February, 2013
so the BLACK ONE didn't get singled out for being black.. but gone fishing did lol
nik39 6:03 PM - 7 February, 2013
Nice try. Follow the forum rules - you stay here.

Disrespect the rules - good bye.

These rules apply to everyone.

That's why you have been removed from this forum a few times.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:04 PM - 7 February, 2013
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so the BLACK ONE didn't get singled out for being black.. but gone fishing did lol


But, THE BLACK ONE....isn't even BLACK.....

so there you go...
AKIEM 6:04 PM - 7 February, 2013
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He should take his own advice and quit being a 'white man'


You can't change your colors, but you can change your mind.


color? Is he "white" he might be close, but if you put a white crayon up to him, I'm pretty sure you might see quite a difference.

a persons "color" is a social construct. That means it exists in the MINDs of people. Now he can't control other people's minds, he can control his own. AND he has a huge influence over a large constituency.

Now, if RP came out and denounced his whiteness, I might have voted for him.

Actions speak loader then rhetoric (least they are supposed to)
AKIEM 6:05 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ether way - the point remains trying to equate the Black struggle in a America to the "gay struggle" is fucking ridiculous.


That's a mighty Homophobic statement you've made there....


Well my wife has a gay friend, so I'm obviously not homophobic.

[nh,nm]


Hell, I'd love for my wife to have Bisexual Female friends....


(well she has that too)
djaction 6:06 PM - 7 February, 2013
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so the BLACK ONE didn't get singled out for being black.. but gone fishing did lol


But, THE BLACK ONE....isn't even BLACK.....

so there you go...


how do we know that ? Lol
sixxx 6:07 PM - 7 February, 2013
lol @ this thread
AKIEM 6:10 PM - 7 February, 2013
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lol @ this thread


Is there an equivalent on the NI forums?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:10 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Nice try. Follow the forum rules - you stay here.

Disrespect the rules - good bye.

These rules apply to everyone.

That's why you have been removed from this forum a few times.


www.djjohnnym.com

I see you've shined up your badge....

I like how when you've run out of ammo, you fall back on simple stuff that you love to preach....

BTW, here's your MO....

* Nik sees argument between someone he doesn't like in the past and another member and because that person has totally sonned him in the past, he's still butthurt.

* He would then interject himself into the convo by making snide remarks about supposed past racial, sexual, or just plain meany things the person may have said that have gotten Niks drawls tight

* Person responds to Nik and he hits the "Report" button! Then quotes OLD postings from the person he's trying to eject from the sandbox.

* If the above doesn't work, he will refer to OLD BATTLES and try to get a convoy of bandwagoners to jump on

* If the above doesn't work, he'll provoke someone else to take up his battle, and if some momentum builds, will try to jump back in with a stab, but it never works

When all else fails, he shines up his badge, and fades to black.....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:11 PM - 7 February, 2013
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so the BLACK ONE didn't get singled out for being black.. but gone fishing did lol


But, THE BLACK ONE....isn't even BLACK.....

so there you go...


how do we know that ? Lol


I asked him...

This is a common subject of threads for him....

Along with Men's Hands and what lotion to use on them...
DeezNotes 6:13 PM - 7 February, 2013
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:13 PM - 7 February, 2013
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so the BLACK ONE didn't get singled out for being black.. but gone fishing did lol


But The BLACK ONE CAN'T be singled out for being Black...

Because he's not.... :-)
CMOS 6:16 PM - 7 February, 2013
The Daily News says Gay is the new Black.

Discuss


www.nydailynews.com
Fumio Ohtsubo President, Panasonic Corporation 6:20 PM - 7 February, 2013
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eder 6:51 PM - 7 February, 2013
What I have surmised from reading this roller coaster of a thread:

The lack of Midi Out, especially on black-painted mixers, killed the Marriage Equality Act in California.
CMOS 6:57 PM - 7 February, 2013
^^ Ha
FabulousFrequencies 7:08 PM - 7 February, 2013
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What I have surmised from reading this roller coaster of a thread:

The lack of Midi Out, especially on black-painted mixers, killed the Marriage Equality Act in California.



DING DING DING! We have a thread winner!
jprime 7:11 PM - 7 February, 2013
FabulousFrequencies 7:13 PM - 7 February, 2013
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color? Is he "white" he might be close, but if you put a white crayon up to him, I'm pretty sure you might see quite a difference.

a persons "color" is a social construct. That means it exists in the MINDs of people. Now he can't control other people's minds, he can control his own. AND he has a huge influence over a large constituency.

Now, if RP came out and denounced his whiteness, I might have voted for him.

Actions speak loader then rhetoric (least they are supposed to)


Agreed (believe that or not). But in stating what he did (and I tried to quote) he simply isn't acknowledging 'color'. Wouldn't that work as a good enough example? Or does he need to come out and say 'I'm not white!' because that in itself would be acknowledging 'white'. Correct? Not to mention his actions spoke plenty of times when he believed we all had the freedom to do as we choose, so wouldn't he be a hypocrite to try and sway his constituency? He was elected numerous times because he let them be themselves, not because he had to convince them.
PorkyG 7:23 PM - 7 February, 2013
Well this thread went a little off topic unless midi out became a racist. 25.media.tumblr.com
FabulousFrequencies 7:29 PM - 7 February, 2013
I think midi out is racist against Serato and that's why they can't really comment on why they don't have it. It's clearly not discriminatory against Gay's because Traktor users have it.

::: runs
nik39 7:32 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I think midi out is racist against Serato and that's why they can't really comment on why they don't have it. It's clearly not discriminatory against Gay's because Traktor users have it.

::: runs

We have a winner ;)

Sorry, I missed this... who is "RP"?
the_black_one 7:35 PM - 7 February, 2013
Soooooooooooo..... what did i miss???
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:38 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I think midi out is racist against Serato and that's why they can't really comment on why they don't have it. It's clearly not discriminatory against Gay's because Traktor users have it.

::: runs

We have a winner ;)

Sorry, I missed this... who is "RP"?

Rand paul
FabulousFrequencies 7:39 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ron
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:41 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ron

Burgendy
the_black_one 7:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ron

Artest



World peace????
nik39 7:46 PM - 7 February, 2013
Thx.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:49 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ron

Artest



World peace????

Meta?
the_black_one 7:51 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Ron

Artest



World peace????

Meta?


his black so he gets no midi out
FabulousFrequencies 7:54 PM - 7 February, 2013
Serato is the new black..
PorkyG 7:55 PM - 7 February, 2013
No midi out no peace!
the_black_one 7:56 PM - 7 February, 2013
meta "no midi out" peace
sixxx 7:57 PM - 7 February, 2013
"Peace to all the real midi out there!"
FabulousFrequencies 7:58 PM - 7 February, 2013
I sniffed an ABBA record on the way out of the thrift store today.. Made me think of you guys <3
PorkyG 7:59 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I sniffed an ABBA record on the way out of the thrift store today.. Made me think of you guys <3


I'm not a Dancing Queen.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:00 PM - 7 February, 2013
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World peace????

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his black so he gets no midi out



I heard serato put kobe bryant in charge of midi development...there will be no midi out
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:01 PM - 7 February, 2013
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:03 PM - 7 February, 2013
@buttonfreak and theblackone


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the_black_one 8:07 PM - 7 February, 2013
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his black so he gets no midi out



I heard serato put kobe bryant in charge of midi development...there will be no midi out


midi out is out like Pau Gasol and his NON BLACK foot!!!!
DJ Dynamite - NJ 8:11 PM - 7 February, 2013
So Gone Fishing started some shit that derailed the thread and then he went fishing?
latindj 8:15 PM - 7 February, 2013
white control vinyl vs black control vinyl....hmmmm....maybe serato is behind all of this?
Will08272 8:15 PM - 7 February, 2013
This thread is the number one reason why serato needs midi out. The chaos and the things that have been said cant be undone.
AKIEM 8:16 PM - 7 February, 2013
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color? Is he "white" he might be close, but if you put a white crayon up to him, I'm pretty sure you might see quite a difference.

a persons "color" is a social construct. That means it exists in the MINDs of people. Now he can't control other people's minds, he can control his own. AND he has a huge influence over a large constituency.

Now, if RP came out and denounced his whiteness, I might have voted for him.

Actions speak loader then rhetoric (least they are supposed to)


Agreed (believe that or not). But in stating what he did (and I tried to quote) he simply isn't acknowledging 'color'. Wouldn't that work as a good enough example? Or does he need to come out and say 'I'm not white!' because that in itself would be acknowledging 'white'. Correct? Not to mention his actions spoke plenty of times when he believed we all had the freedom to do as we choose, so wouldn't he be a hypocrite to try and sway his constituency? He was elected numerous times because he let them be themselves, not because he had to convince them.


This is the problem with the libertarian understanding and why there actually are racist who use it as a shield - it allows racism to persist as a hidden substructure not be acknowledged. It would be nice to presuppose the goodness, altruism, and benevolence in the human being left to his own device, but it's not the case. Secondly just pretending not to see race does nothing to combat the 500 year legacy of the current form of racism we are dealing with.

Yes Ron Paul should come out and reject his whiteness if he is truly 'color blind' because there should be no mistake about his views (if those are in fact truely his views).

It's not just coming out and sayin "I'm not white" if he thinks he is not. It is coming out and rejecting the entire construct of racism. Not on some legal ground, or moral, but on a paradigm undoing level.

White people forever "reject racism" yet do NOTHING to deconstruct the paradigm. They sit passively reaping benefits of the half a melenium long lasting construct.

If it is not actively deconstructing it thrives rather nice with a wink and a nod when necessary.

So yes, if RP actually does not believe he is a "white man" he should renounce the social construct which says otherwise.

As far as swaying his constituency, couldn't they just take him or leave him? Doesn't he hold himself up as an example, or believe his ideas are correct? Is he not a champion of his party? If he has no need to espouse his people's platform and logic - well then should he not be able to just stand mute on all subjects. Shouldn't his books be filled with empty pages? He represents a working ideology, if it intends to just stay mute on the subject of race, it is flawed. I mean why do these people even talk?

Half a melenium of world wide racism and white supremacy has been the greatest pervaor of evil our planet has known. IMHO of course.

So called white people should just quit being white.
the_black_one 8:17 PM - 7 February, 2013
Hmmmm.... Dj Dynamite is black but his avatar looks like he is on a white control record.... does he get midi out?
PorkyG 8:20 PM - 7 February, 2013
See all the indifference's midi out has caused?!

s7.postimage.org
the_black_one 8:22 PM - 7 February, 2013
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See all the indifference's midi out has caused?!

s7.postimage.org



HOLY SMOKES!!!!!! I'm laughing so hard i think i busted a vessel in my eye!!! NM
Will08272 8:22 PM - 7 February, 2013
What we need is Seracktor.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:25 PM - 7 February, 2013
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See all the indifference's midi out has caused?!

s7.postimage.org

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What we need is Seracktor.

Looks like chris brown already sewackter
eder 8:27 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So Gone Fishing started some shit that derailed the thread and then he went fishing?


Naw he's off welding something for $X amount an hour somewhere. Like a big boy.
The Return of Dj Sparky 8:29 PM - 7 February, 2013
Too much bullshit in this thread
Anyone seen DJango around I hear the D is silent
thebuttonfreak 8:30 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Dj-M.Bezzle 8:35 PM - 7 February, 2013
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So Gone Fishing started some shit that derailed the thread and then he went fishing?

Yup his views of allegid dildo use reallt escalated things lol
FabulousFrequencies 8:53 PM - 7 February, 2013
My contribution to humanity..

img259.imageshack.us
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:56 PM - 7 February, 2013
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My contribution to humanity..

img259.imageshack.us

Fuckin awesome!
CMOS 8:58 PM - 7 February, 2013
^^^^^ JPEG OF THE YEAR CANDIDATE!!!
Will08272 9:01 PM - 7 February, 2013
Whats going to happen if and when serato does add midi out. Will hell freeze over and peace be bought upon planet earth. Will the lockness monster appear.
sixxx 9:02 PM - 7 February, 2013
You want the lights to come on. Pay the damn electricity bill. lol NM
Daktyl 9:09 PM - 7 February, 2013
Damn, shit got all Crown Heights '91 up in here for a minute... back on topic(?)
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Ya, I need to try midipipe. It's hard to learn how to use it so I never get around to it.
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All these DJs dismissing a technology which helps people look at their screen less.

Interesting.

quoted for truth
to the op, couldn't you use midipipe or another midi translator to accomplish what you need? i mean i could see how that would be annoying and how you would rather just have midi out functionality in SSL, but if light feedback on a controller is the only reason you need midi out and your main reason for switching, wouldn't that be easier than learning a whole new platform?

midipipe isn't that hard to use. it took me a minute to get it working the way i wanted with my x1, but once i got it right, i never needed to mess with it again. just start it up and have it running in the background when i spin. do some searching, there are plenty of tutorials on how to use it, probably some specific to your controller...
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:11 PM - 7 February, 2013
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img259.imageshack.us

Fuckin awesome!

My take on it

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The Return of Dj Sparky 9:16 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Whats going to happen if and when serato does add midi out. Will hell freeze over and peace be bought upon planet earth. Will the lockness monster appear.


We'll just go back to our old requests like key lock ect ect....
the_black_one 9:25 PM - 7 February, 2013
midi out
key lock
tagging issues for videos


fell free to add to the list....
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
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midi out
key lock
tagging issues for videos


fell free to add to the list....

Ability to eject a cd
the_black_one 9:29 PM - 7 February, 2013
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midi out
key lock
tagging issues for videos


fell free to add to the list....

Ability to eject a cd


no activity towards evolving and developing the bridge
AKIEM 9:32 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Damn, shit got all Crown Heights '91 up in here for a minute... back on topic(?)
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Ya, I need to try midipipe. It's hard to learn how to use it so I never get around to it.
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All these DJs dismissing a technology which helps people look at their screen less.

Interesting.

quoted for truth
to the op, couldn't you use midipipe or another midi translator to accomplish what you need? i mean i could see how that would be annoying and how you would rather just have midi out functionality in SSL, but if light feedback on a controller is the only reason you need midi out and your main reason for switching, wouldn't that be easier than learning a whole new platform?

midipipe isn't that hard to use. it took me a minute to get it working the way i wanted with my x1, but once i got it right, i never needed to mess with it again. just start it up and have it running in the background when i spin. do some searching, there are plenty of tutorials on how to use it, probably some specific to your controller...


Or set the lights to monetary or stay on, also works.
FabulousFrequencies 9:33 PM - 7 February, 2013
imageshack.us

imageshack.us

alright.. I'm done.. =\
FabulousFrequencies 9:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
@AKIEM, I didn't doge ya. It's just a LOT to expound on in an internet thread this far off topic. At a bar, over a few beers.. I'd definitely engage you in the conversation. And then maybe we could sniff some records together and dance around an S4 or something. *thumbs up*
the_black_one 9:46 PM - 7 February, 2013
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@AKIEM, I didn't doge ya. It's just a LOT to expound on in an internet thread this far off topic. At a bar, over a few beers.. I'd definitely engage you. And then maybe we could sniff some cocks together and dance around and do something. *thumbs up*



wow!!!!! NM
Laz219 9:57 PM - 7 February, 2013
The level this thread has ended up off-track may well be a new record.

Bezzle, time for the official thread awards?
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:02 PM - 7 February, 2013
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:03 PM - 7 February, 2013
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The level this thread has ended up off-track may well be a new record.

Bezzle, time for the official thread awards?


Dont jump the gun, this threads still got legs!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:04 PM - 7 February, 2013
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@AKIEM, I didn't doge ya. It's just a LOT to expound on in an internet thread this far off topic. At a bar, over a few beers.. I'd definitely engage you. And then maybe we could sniff some cocks together and dance around and do something with *thumbs up our ass*



wow!!!!! NM



Bezzle refix
FabulousFrequencies 10:06 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Bezzle reach around
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:13 PM - 7 February, 2013
Laz219 10:23 PM - 7 February, 2013
funnygaga.com

You're right, still plenty of room for more derailment.
So far we've covered Traktor (very briefly) Gay rights, Racism, Slavery, Fishing (which seems to be becoming a regular topic) The use of dildos, Whether the Serato mods are racist and the occasional movie idea.
All that and no mac vs pc argument. Which is impressive in it's own right.

Anyway, on with the show.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 10:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Hmmmm.... Dj Dynamite is black but his avatar looks like he is on a white control record.... does he get midi out?

I'm not black... I'm Sexual Chocolate
t.qkme.me
the_black_one 10:26 PM - 7 February, 2013
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funnygaga.com

You're right, still plenty of room for more derailment.
So far we've covered Traktor (very briefly) Gay rights, Racism, Slavery, Fishing (which seems to be becoming a regular topic) The use of dildos, Whether the Serato mods are racist and the occasional movie idea.
All that and no mac vs pc argument. Which is impressive in it's own right.

Anyway, on with the show.



you forget the bowl of dicks!!!!! NM
Laz219 10:27 PM - 7 February, 2013
Well, I thought it was pretty well established.
If anything the thread name could be changed to "Bowl Of Dicks Inside"

NM.
the_black_one 10:29 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Well, I thought it was pretty well established.
If anything the thread name could be changed to "Bowl Of Dicks Inside"

NM.


LOL.........
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:32 PM - 7 February, 2013
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:33 PM - 7 February, 2013
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funnygaga.com

You're right, still plenty of room for more derailment.
So far we've covered Traktor (very briefly) Gay rights, Racism, Slavery, Fishing (which seems to be becoming a regular topic) The use of dildos, Whether the Serato mods are racist and the occasional movie idea.
All that and no mac vs pc argument. Which is impressive in it's own right.

Anyway, on with the show.


you forget the bowl of dicks!!!!! NM


And the fact that some of y'all are co-signing Men rockin' dildos in 2013.....
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:38 PM - 7 February, 2013
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funnygaga.com

You're right, still plenty of room for more derailment.
So far we've covered Traktor (very briefly) Gay rights, Racism, Slavery, Fishing (which seems to be becoming a regular topic) The use of dildos, Whether the Serato mods are racist and the occasional movie idea.
All that and no mac vs pc argument. Which is impressive in it's own right.

Anyway, on with the show.


you forget the bowl of dicks!!!!! NM


And the fact that some of y'all are co-signing Men rockin' dildos in 2013.....


Im more concerned about the fact that i mentioned using a dildo and u and fishins minds went straight to gay stuff...my first thought goes to usin one on a chick...add that to the fact both of ya havent stopped goin on against it...im suspectin some repression issues at work
Bowl Of Dicks 10:39 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Well, I thought it was pretty well established.

If anything the thread name could be changed to "Bowl Of Dicks Inside"



NM.


I'm flattered.
Laz219 10:40 PM - 7 February, 2013
I couldn't even remember why that conversation had started, I thought it was a random insult used somewhere a few hundred threads ago that everybody suddenly wanted to talk about.
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:40 PM - 7 February, 2013
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Well, I thought it was pretty well established.

If anything the thread name could be changed to "Bowl Of Dicks Inside"



NM.


I'm flattered.



Threads.....official
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:41 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I couldn't even remember why that conversation had started, I thought it was a random insult used somewhere a few hundred threads ago that everybody suddenly wanted to talk about.



It went arry over fishings views of "allegid" dildo use
DJ DisGrace 10:42 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I couldn't even remember why that conversation had started, I thought it was a random insult used somewhere a few hundred threads ago that everybody suddenly wanted to talk about.



It went arry over fishings views of "allegid" dildo use

it was just a misquote too
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:43 PM - 7 February, 2013
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I couldn't even remember why that conversation had started, I thought it was a random insult used somewhere a few hundred threads ago that everybody suddenly wanted to talk about.



It went arry over fishings views of "allegid" dildo use

it was just a misquote too


Yup...it escalated rather quickly
Laz219 10:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
3.bp.blogspot.com

As things generally do around here.
AKIEM 10:49 PM - 7 February, 2013
@Frequency, no problems.
(not the cock sniffing part tho)

And yeah my first thoughts about a dildo is twisting it up in a bi-female or two.....

Um.


[NH+NM]
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:44 PM - 7 February, 2013
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funnygaga.com

You're right, still plenty of room for more derailment.
So far we've covered Traktor (very briefly) Gay rights, Racism, Slavery, Fishing (which seems to be becoming a regular topic) The use of dildos, Whether the Serato mods are racist and the occasional movie idea.
All that and no mac vs pc argument. Which is impressive in it's own right.

Anyway, on with the show.


you forget the bowl of dicks!!!!! NM


And the fact that some of y'all are co-signing Men rockin' dildos in 2013.....


Im more concerned about the fact that i mentioned using a dildo and u and fishins minds went straight to gay stuff...my first thought goes to usin one on a chick...add that to the fact both of ya havent stopped goin on against it...im suspectin some repression issues at work


Beezle, you know damn well you don't have a chick to use a dildo on....

Secondly, it was Nik who claims to be leading the parade in 2013....
FabulousFrequencies 12:00 AM - 8 February, 2013
I want the next release of SDJ to turn my porch light on when I come home... MIDI out NOW plz.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:21 AM - 8 February, 2013
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I want the next release of SDJ to turn my porch light on when I come home... MIDI out NOW plz.

I need midi out for this

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ Gone Fishing 1:14 AM - 8 February, 2013
I see you cats been at it all day!

No matter what anyone says, I came to this thread to talk about Tracktor.
Laz219 1:40 AM - 8 February, 2013
But really, you've gotten onto the topic of every other conversation in this thread....and didn't even answer my question about what makes you prefer Traktor.
DJ Gone Fishing 1:50 AM - 8 February, 2013
Laz I already answered that but here I go again.

Tracktor is more to my style of djing remixing on the fly, you can also use four turntables with tractor so its great for tag team mixing, and midi out.

Like I also said, instead of complaining about what SSL does not have. I went and found a system that has midi out If you look at past threads I was asking for that a long time ago.
its like preaching to the choir they have already heard the sermon.
djaction 1:54 AM - 8 February, 2013
Most people are bad enough on TWO turntables. I've almost never seen an instance where FOUR turntables (traktor) has actually improved someones set/performance.. kinda like MIDI OUT.
DJ Gone Fishing 1:55 AM - 8 February, 2013
Both serato and tracktor has it pluses and minuses.

Its all about what makes you comfortable as a dj to say SSL is the holy grille is just one's opinion.
DJ Gone Fishing 1:56 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Most people are bad enough on TWO turntables. I've almost never seen an instance where FOUR turntables (traktor) has actually improved someones set/performance.. kinda like MIDI OUT.

Its all about your skill set and what you want to do as a dj.
DJ Gone Fishing 1:58 AM - 8 February, 2013
If you can not remix or remix on the fly tracktor is not for you.

Some people like to keep it simple some dj's don't want to change.

I respect that.
Laz219 1:59 AM - 8 February, 2013
That was the answer I was looking for.
djaction 2:02 AM - 8 February, 2013
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If you can not remix or remix on the fly tracktor is not for you.

Some people like to keep it simple some dj's don't want to change.

I respect that.


show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than two.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:05 AM - 8 February, 2013
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If you can not remix or remix on the fly tracktor is not for you.

Some people like to keep it simple some dj's don't want to change.

I respect that.


show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than two.


I do not post videos or mixes that has been stated by me in 2006!
Laz219 2:07 AM - 8 February, 2013
How come you're happy to post fishing catches but not mixes?
djaction 2:09 AM - 8 February, 2013
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If you can not remix or remix on the fly tracktor is not for you.

Some people like to keep it simple some dj's don't want to change.

I respect that.


show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than two.


I do not post videos or mixes that has been stated by me in 2006!


i didnt even say it had to be your mix/video.. i'm saying show me anyones
DJ Gone Fishing 2:13 AM - 8 February, 2013
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How come you're happy to post fishing catches but not mixes?


Yes i also feel that its to much bad blood here!
I am a old school cat and I keep it that way!

Posting a video or a mix proves nothing.

People here should start doing more jam session and coming together to show their skill set.
djaction 2:14 AM - 8 February, 2013
^man. i'm just asking to show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than 2.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:15 AM - 8 February, 2013
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^man. i'm just asking to show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than 2.


Ok here you go

Watchwww.youtube.com
djaction 2:17 AM - 8 February, 2013
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^man. i'm just asking to show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than 2.


Ok here you go

Watchwww.youtube.com


you do realize qbert is only using one turntable right..?
djaction 2:17 AM - 8 February, 2013
and there are 3 dj's in that video..
DJ DisGrace 2:18 AM - 8 February, 2013
Strikly Kev is the only guy I've seen rock 4 decks
Watchwww.youtube.com
djaction 2:18 AM - 8 February, 2013
so again.. i submit. show me a video of a DJ sounding better on 4 turntables than 2.
DJ Gone Fishing 2:18 AM - 8 February, 2013
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^man. i'm just asking to show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than 2.


Ok here you go

Watchwww.youtube.com


you do realize qbert is only using one turntable right..?


I did say it is great for tag team mixing you can't tag team with one audio box with SSL
DJ Gone Fishing 2:19 AM - 8 February, 2013
You have your opinion man
DJ Gone Fishing 2:20 AM - 8 February, 2013
Qberts always is on one turntable
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:28 AM - 8 February, 2013
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How come you're happy to post fishing catches but not mixes?


Yes i also feel that its to much bad blood here!
I am a old school cat and I keep it that way!

Posting a video or a mix proves nothing.

People here should start doing more jam session and coming together to show their skill set.

Mabye u should lead by example grandpa roc
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:29 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Qberts always is on one turntable

Oh of course that would explain y u posted a vid of him when asked for a vid of a dope 4 deck set :/
Laz219 2:41 AM - 8 February, 2013
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^man. i'm just asking to show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than 2.


Ok here you go

Watchwww.youtube.com


you do realize qbert is only using one turntable right..?


I did say it is great for tag team mixing you can't tag team with one audio box with SSL


There is the SL4 though.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:47 AM - 8 February, 2013
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^man. i'm just asking to show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than 2.


Ok here you go

Watchwww.youtube.com


you do realize qbert is only using one turntable right..?




I did say it is great for tag team mixing you can't tag team with one audio box with SSL


There is the SL4 though.


And 68
Laz219 2:49 AM - 8 February, 2013
You know, I'd completely forgotten about the SixtyEight, the 61 and 62 have stolen my attention.
Although I still want an Empath mostly.
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:11 AM - 8 February, 2013
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You know, I'd completely forgotten about the SixtyEight.



ya i think ranes been hopin for that lol
Laz219 3:14 AM - 8 February, 2013
haha, I knew when I first typed that I'd get a comment along those lines.

I'd still happily have one, except the issue of cheap, used Rane mixers not existing.
thebuttonfreak 3:15 AM - 8 February, 2013
If I saw one for ike 800 bucks I'd be all over it. I'm sure it's a fantastic mixer, if all I have to live with is bad cue buttons I can deal.
Laz219 3:16 AM - 8 February, 2013
I'd still use dicers anyway just because I like the position of them. So the cue buttons wouldn't even be an issue.
pdidy 3:17 AM - 8 February, 2013
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so again.. i submit. show me a video of a DJ sounding better on 4 turntables than 2.

carl cox Watchwww.youtube.com , But he's a rare bread and an exception to the rule.

It takes exceptional skill and per-planning to be better on 4 tt compared 2 tt. I consider it more a gimmick than a required feature because most djs are not qualified to pull it off in an "unplanned" live set.
thebuttonfreak 3:19 AM - 8 February, 2013
I sort of agree, I've never seen anyone sound better on 4 decks. Even on 3, most of the time it was more about showing off than sounding good. Who the fuck needs 4 decks? 2 decks and sample decks for looping makes way more sense. I have seen Marco Corola destroy a 3 deck set, but he was the exception.
Bowl Of Dicks 3:33 AM - 8 February, 2013
Can I please get the midi out effect?
DJ Gone Fishing 3:51 AM - 8 February, 2013
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How come you're happy to post fishing catches but not mixes?


Yes i also feel that its to much bad blood here!
I am a old school cat and I keep it that way!

Posting a video or a mix proves nothing.

People here should start doing more jam session and coming together to show their skill set.

Mabye u should lead by example grandpa roc


Here you go again with the insults, I am not anyone's grand pa none of my children do not have any kids1 you just don't know when to stop with the verbal digs!

the best thing for you is not to make me the butt of your comic banter and jokes it is not cool!
MPC O.G. 3:58 AM - 8 February, 2013
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If you can not remix or remix on the fly tracktor is not for you.Some people like to keep it simple some dj's don't want to change.I respect that.
show me a video of someone that sounds better on 4 turntables than two.

DJ Dirty Harry.
DJ Gone Fishing 3:58 AM - 8 February, 2013
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How come you're happy to post fishing catches but not mixes?


Yes i also feel that its to much bad blood here!
I am a old school cat and I keep it that way!

Posting a video or a mix proves nothing.

People here should start doing more jam session and coming together to show their skill set.

Mabye u should lead by example grandpa roc

I am not a grand pa dude you keep pushing buttons and trying to make confrontation with me how about you leave me alone I will leave you alone. I am not one to play with you and will not be your whipping boy you have a lot to learn as a person.

Once again i am trying real hard to dismiss your verbal attacks towards me but if you think i am about fun and game, you have me pegged wrong.

Once again i do not have any grandchildren and it is a insult to me and my children to label me as one.
DJ Gone Fishing 4:06 AM - 8 February, 2013
We have had jam session in caly that i have attended and showed my skill set. why don't you go practice and get better as a dj.

I will not take your any of your insults, You have a metal problem!


I know what i can do on all levels and do not need your approval or anyone else's on this site or any where else i go.

You really need to quit i have said to you and i will say it again stop with the insults towards me I do not like you or do respect you.
DJ DisGrace 4:19 AM - 8 February, 2013
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You have a metal problem!

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DJ Gone Fishing 4:20 AM - 8 February, 2013
It seems to me you have a mental problem and just want confrontation.

All i can do is shake my head and try to not get baited by your banter.

We all have to be responsible for what we say and do to others, even me, and even you.

I am not going to take your insults lightly anymore
Laz219 4:23 AM - 8 February, 2013
Who are you actually talking to?
DJ Gone Fishing 4:23 AM - 8 February, 2013
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good one
pdidy 4:27 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Who are you actually talking to?

The funny part is....dude is trying to reason with a certified crazy person.....but he doesnt no it yet......this makes for great comedy.
DJ Gone Fishing 4:30 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Who are you actually talking to?



I am talking to Bezzie i do not like being called a grandpa i am not one i have to girils i put through collage and they have no children and I pride myself on that and i do not want to be labeled a granpa till I am 50 years of age.

I have put two girls through college one is a lawyer the other is a a social worker with no kids !
DJ Gone Fishing 4:30 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Who are you actually talking to?

The funny part is....dude is trying to reason with a certified crazy person.....but he doesnt no it yet......this makes for great comedy.

who are you talking about?
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:54 AM - 8 February, 2013
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How come you're happy to post fishing catches but not mixes?


Yes i also feel that its to much bad blood here!
I am a old school cat and I keep it that way!

Posting a video or a mix proves nothing.

People here should start doing more jam session and coming together to show their skill set.

Mabye u should lead by example grandpa roc


Here you go again with the insults, I am not anyone's grand pa none of my children do not have any kids1

...so you are a grampa?
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:01 AM - 8 February, 2013
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I will not take your any of your insults, You have a metal problem!

You really need to quit i have said to you and i will say it again stop with the insults towards me I do not like you or do respect you.

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It seems to me you have a mental problem and just want confrontation.

All i can do is shake my head and try to not get baited by your banter.

We all have to be responsible for what we say and do to others, even me, and even you.

I am not going to take your insults lightly anymore


lmfao, dude where did i even insult you
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:02 AM - 8 February, 2013
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i have to girils i put through collage


hopefully you didnt help em with their english homework lol
DJ Gone Fishing 5:10 AM - 8 February, 2013
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i have to girils i put through collage


hopefully you didnt help em with their english homework lol

Dude you miss spell like everyone else on here does
DJ Gone Fishing 5:11 AM - 8 February, 2013
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I will not take your any of your insults, You have a metal problem!

You really need to quit i have said to you and i will say it again stop with the insults towards me I do not like you or do respect you.

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It seems to me you have a mental problem and just want confrontation.

All i can do is shake my head and try to not get baited by your banter.

We all have to be responsible for what we say and do to others, even me, and even you.

I am not going to take your insults lightly anymore

calling me a granpa dude i am sick of you don't say anything negative about my kids english skills
lmfao, dude where did i even insult you
DJ Gone Fishing 5:13 AM - 8 February, 2013
I tell you now you will have to face everything you have said to me ok
thebuttonfreak 5:13 AM - 8 February, 2013
Are the majoring in english skills?
DJ Gone Fishing 5:15 AM - 8 February, 2013
DON"T CALL ME A GRAMPA or A GRANDPA.

Joke time is over.

I do not have any word for you ok stop!
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:15 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Are the majoring in english skills?

its are THEY majoring in english skills...THEY
DJ Gone Fishing 5:16 AM - 8 February, 2013
Dude I am from the streets I don't play games
DJ Gone Fishing 5:16 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Are the majoring in english skills?

its are THEY majoring in english skills...THEY

Leave my kid out of your conversation please
DJ Gone Fishing 5:17 AM - 8 February, 2013
Its ok i will get the last laugh!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:18 AM - 8 February, 2013
See you want me to threaten you, I'm not but i will get even!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:18 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Are the majoring in english skills?

its are THEY majoring in english skills...THEY

Leave my kids at home!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:19 AM - 8 February, 2013
Keep playing
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:19 AM - 8 February, 2013
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See you want me to threaten you, I'm not but i will get even!

did you just say your not gonna threaten me....then threaten me....in the same sentence...that blows even my feeble brain
DJ Gone Fishing 5:19 AM - 8 February, 2013
Man you are playing with fire!
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:20 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Are the majoring in english skills?

its are THEY majoring in english skills...THEY

Leave my kid out of your conversation please



you brought em into it, I was just correcting grammer
DJ Gone Fishing 5:20 AM - 8 February, 2013
I will get even
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:20 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Man you are playing with fire!

no this is playing with fire

www.encroach.net
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:20 AM - 8 February, 2013
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I will get even

ill get odd
DJ Gone Fishing 5:21 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Are the majoring in english skills?

its are THEY majoring in english skills...THEY

Leave my kid out of your conversation please



you brought em into it, I was just correcting grammer

You are playing games with me and I asked you nicely to quit
The Return of Dj Sparky 5:21 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Are the majoring in english skills?
its are THEY majoring in english skills...THEY
Leave my kid out of your conversation please


What you don't shoot some dice man?
thebuttonfreak 5:21 AM - 8 February, 2013
I majored in skills in college.
DJ Gone Fishing 5:22 AM - 8 February, 2013
Its cool go keep digging!
thebuttonfreak 5:22 AM - 8 February, 2013
You could even say I have major skills.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:23 AM - 8 February, 2013
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You could even say I have major skills.

that would be a dope dj name
DJ Gone Fishing 5:25 AM - 8 February, 2013
Its ok we all have to take responsibility for what we say in do in life even you!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:26 AM - 8 February, 2013
I know me I no what I am capable of doing
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:26 AM - 8 February, 2013
DJ Gone Fishing 5:27 AM - 8 February, 2013
Everything you write about me i will leave it in my memory bank
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:27 AM - 8 February, 2013
DJ Gone Fishing 5:28 AM - 8 February, 2013
Go ahead keep playing
thebuttonfreak 5:28 AM - 8 February, 2013
You're like an angry Forrest Gump.
DJ Gone Fishing 5:28 AM - 8 February, 2013
keep on joking
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:29 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Everything you write about me i will leave it in my memory bank

Watchwww.youtube.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:29 AM - 8 February, 2013
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You're like an angry Forrest Gump.

rotfl!!!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:29 AM - 8 February, 2013
Its cool man your not going to get a pass from me!
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:30 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Its cool man your not going to get a pass from me!

www.fugly.com
DJ Gone Fishing 5:30 AM - 8 February, 2013
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You're like an angry Forrest Gump.

rotfl!!!

Ok keep that same attitude!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:31 AM - 8 February, 2013
its all bad between you and I
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:31 AM - 8 February, 2013
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its all bad between you and I

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DJ Gone Fishing 5:32 AM - 8 February, 2013
I tried to give you a chance
thebuttonfreak 5:32 AM - 8 February, 2013
With Bezzle?
DJ Gone Fishing 5:32 AM - 8 February, 2013
i don't even look at your dumb pictures
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:33 AM - 8 February, 2013
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i don't even look at your dumb pictures

that explains why your so cranky lol
thebuttonfreak 5:33 AM - 8 February, 2013
Then how do you know they're pictures?
DJ Gone Fishing 5:34 AM - 8 February, 2013
In life we all reap what we sow
DJ Gone Fishing 5:35 AM - 8 February, 2013
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i don't even look at your dumb pictures

that explains why your so cranky lol

I'm not cranky, I just don't play games
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:35 AM - 8 February, 2013
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i don't even look at your dumb pictures

that explains why your so cranky lol

I'm not cranky, I just don't play games

BUT YOUR SO GOOD AT EM!!! YOUR A NATURAL!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:36 AM - 8 February, 2013
Go play with someone else I not your kid!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:37 AM - 8 February, 2013
I tried to come at you like a man
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:39 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Go play with someone else

wonderful idea, adios!!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:40 AM - 8 February, 2013
Can you understand, I don't like you.

can you understand when a person does not like you leave them alone when they told you they want nothing to do with you or your games!
DJ Gone Fishing 5:41 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Go play with someone else

wonderful idea, adios!!

Good bye
Laz219 5:52 AM - 8 February, 2013
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its are THEY majoring in english skills...THEY

Leave my kid out of your conversation please



you brought em into it, I was just correcting grammer


Awkward when you're discussing correcting grammar, but you spell it wrong.

I'm still a massive fan of your posting style Gone Fishing, it's like a 6-2 ratio of your posts to anybody else.
cdn.memegenerator.net
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:53 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Leave my kid out of your conversation please



you brought em into it, I was just correcting grammer


Awkward when you're discussing correcting grammar, but you spell it wrong.

;) see what i did there
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:54 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Leave my kid out of your conversation please



you brought em into it, I was just correcting grammer


Awkward when you're discussing correcting grammar, but you spell it wrong.

I'm still a massive fan of your posting style Gone Fishing, it's like a 6-2 ratio of your posts to anybody else.
cdn.memegenerator.net



i personally enjoy how he takes 1 post and replies to it 6 times with different responces as if theres an acutual conversation goin on.
Laz219 5:59 AM - 8 February, 2013
That's why I had to actually ask who it was directed at before.
FabulousFrequencies 6:05 AM - 8 February, 2013
It just keeps on delivering
Laz219 6:08 AM - 8 February, 2013
Just quickly, discovered any new noteworthy fast food Bezzle?
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:09 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Just quickly, discovered any new noteworthy fast food Bezzle?

ROTFL!!!!! i found a new local joint run by this guy who moved here from philly that has fiiiiiiire philly cheesesteaks
Laz219 6:11 AM - 8 February, 2013
What is the cliche' food to have on the drunken stumble home after a night out over there?
Is the kebab the thing to have over there or something different?
www.tradingpost.com.au
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:14 AM - 8 February, 2013
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What is the cliche' food to have on the drunken stumble home after a night out over there?
Is the kebab the thing to have over there or something different?
www.tradingpost.com.au




depends on where in the city you are, if your in the quarters its a slice of pizza or krystal burgers, further out you can find some waffle houses and ihops if you have time, taco bells always a hit to.

I went to college in a small town and after the bars closed the only thing that was open was this gas station that had DOOOPE crap food, the major hit was the chicken on a stick

media.tulsafood.com
Laz219 6:17 AM - 8 February, 2013
Did they actually just call it 'chicken on a stick' or did they try and get creative with it?
Pizza slices would be my second choice, just can be difficult when they've only got bad toppings cooked already.

Anybody else want to vote in on what your preferred drunken trip home food?
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:20 AM - 8 February, 2013
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Did they actually just call it 'chicken on a stick' or did they try and get creative with it?
Pizza slices would be my second choice, just can be difficult when they've only got bad toppings cooked already.

Anybody else want to vote in on what your preferred drunken trip home food?



it was just called chicken on a stick, they also had egg rolls pizza rolls chicken tenders.

But ya down in the quarters they have a bunch of pizza slice joints on the corners on burbon you just walk in and grab a slice, so covienient

Watchwww.youtube.com

ff to 3:30
Laz219 6:25 AM - 8 February, 2013
I only skimmed through that video, with no sound on it looked like all the people were having seizures.

you look like you were having a good time though:
smg.beta.photobucket.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:29 AM - 8 February, 2013
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I only skimmed through that video, with no sound on it looked like all the people were having seizures.

you look like you were having a good time though:
smg.beta.photobucket.com

ROTFL!!!!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:32 AM - 8 February, 2013
HAHAH it does look trippy without the music
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