So... 3rd quarter then

I'm excited!

ahh yeahhhhh

Nice new look, sill got to wait till Q3

when is third quarter like exact date???

Of course the sync engine is talk right now, I'd have to see it in action...but awesome! Next step I'd like to see...dynamic beatgrid with multiple anchor points (for variations in tempo, etc.)

And MIDI mapping, but I know you guys are probably already on it, perhaps in a later 2.x release :)

The months of July-September

3rd Quarter?!?! Wow thats ridiculous for how long ago 2.0 was announced (sometime in 2009 if I am not mistaken). And no mention of the Bridge.... I was expecting alot more than what I am seeing here...kind of a disappointment for literally years of work on this version.

We could be lucky enough to see some beta-testing before Q3...

What about Video?

I hope you release the new version for summer as the night and day screen version will really help with my outdoor summer gigs .

looks good

Please tell me Video Plugin is coming soon!!!

happy to see sample player

Can we expect video as well? Or will that be in the next upgrade?

Video is not in this release! Doesn't mean we're not working on it though :)

Video is no big deal...but no bridge?!? 2014 hopefully?

After such a long wait on 2.0 why we still got to wait till Q3

Thanks Brigid,

At least there's hope :o

Hope it will come this year, but considering 2.0 is coming Q3, looks like video will be 2012!

What a slap in the face to the customers waiting, hardly any more features and STILL this long of a wait for a complete product? Q3 2011? It's been YEARS in development and this is it? Basically, we get a hint of the features from SSL after all this wait...

Only a sample player, no video STILL? This upgrade was first talked about IN 2009!!!

Wow... BYE ITCH, Traktor has proven to be the best.

this is kinda dissapointing...there isnt anything new here, its SSL with beatgrids lol

Awesome dude, with you on this one

omg this is like best thing thats happen to my life.

How will you control the SP-6? Will you need a separate controller? Would love to see MIDI mapping in a future and bridge support as well. Looks sick though, cant wait to see it in action.

Yea it really is a complete disappointment....YEARS in development JUST for a revision change that basically added a sampler and some cleanup. I'm actually still shocked that everyone waited this long with such huge anticipation for something so disappointing. I hate to admit it, but the "haters" were right...its probably time to move to Traktor...argh if only they would support V7s. Hopefully I am not seen as a hater....but just a very disappointed customer with full reason.

I am very disappointed, and the bridge? and multiple controllers in one itch session? and advanced fx? and video? waith 2 years more :( i am very disappointed.

Im guessing we are "graced" with the current crap FX that we have already...improved FX would be awesome...but I am not holding my breath.

To the haters: Traktor's age: 10 years
VDJ's age: 7 years
ITCH: 3 years

...It seems to me that ITCH has advanced far faster than Traktor or VDJ with the way this update looks, and we have yet to see what's happening in the next year. Remember, 2.0 was a complete rebuild back-end wise, and if the guys at Serato have their head screwed on right, they definitely rebuilt it with modularity in mind.

Schuyler....that doesn't change the fact that they have been working on 2.0 since 2009 AND no matter how you slice it 2.0 will not be competitive with the other software out there. Some of us are just screwed because we don't have a choice with our gear (Numark V7). So I can't agree at all with that logic.

and BTW Schuyler....we are not haters....just completely disappointed customers that had completely reasonable hopes. Huge difference.

So Serato, looks like almost a complete fail unless you get a beta out or atleast SOMETHING to show for all the hype and waiting. If you guys were transparent about what we should expect and not left us to speculate and hope for something great this wouldn't be such a disappointment to Itch users. There's no good reason that we shouldn't have a completed Itch 2.0 along with the bridge out by now but if I were you I would just put something out quick even a beta.

yea..oh well...wonder how good traktor's online forum community is

I would agree that something like Mantis would be a great thing to add to Serato's website. It's a bug platform that works really well for other software developments, such as Facebook, etc.

But this is a competitive business...and Serato is clearly taking a step in a progressive direction.

Yep, but i'm agrée with schuyler see The âge of each competitor keep that in mind.
When you Begin school you didn't everything in one year, it's The same thing here...
Think that they revamp itch from The base like a new software so it is a lot if work..
If in this version we get more stability and a sampler it's fine for me..
We'll chat NeXT update Will bring.. And i think wz won't Wait a lot for iodates anymore.
So for who are neveu happy, be patient, or... Leave The boat, lol...

Are you being facetious about Serato taking a progressive direction? LOL

So is the Sp-6 Beat Sync'd or is it just like it is in ScratchLIVE? If it's not the former.....Serato REALLY DROPPED THE BALL!!!!

I would agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that 2.0 was announced years ago...and STILL wont be out until 2011Q3. The logic just does not hold in this case.

lol talk about die hard fans...why dont you stick around while the ship sinks then

I just want my shit to work and work the way I want it

Naw.

The main thing I'm focusing on 2.0 is its complete back-end redesign, which Serato spent the most time on.

Congrats on the itch 2.0!

I know its just a preview but it still looks like shit

I appreciate your focus and view on it....but with years of development...they really under-delivered with what we see here. I would have been fired when I was a programmer if I handed over a relative job to this after years of development.

Guys, like I said before, just because this release doesn't have the feature you really wanted in it, doesn't mean we're not working on it.

There is a great list of cool features (Video, Bridge, etc) we want to see in ITCH, and we will work through the list, but if we put EVERYTHING in one release, there's a higher chance of compromising stability/performance and we simply won't do that.

Only serious Software Engineers and developers will appreciate this, Bridgid :)

Great point!

See my thread about this here: serato.com

Brigid...those of us who are completely disappointed about this (who are not the known haters) appreciate a statement like that...but respectfully, you guys just have NO communication skills with your customer base. We would all be such happy creatures in the zoo cage if you would feed us occasionally with reasonable progress information like most other companies do. I think anyone who has been around this industry would agree...especially in todays age....communication is everything. You can't expect customers to wait literally YEARS for a version update that has one major feature asked for....and then be happy waiting to see if maybe all the other features will come about someday. Communication Communication Communication.

Your thoughts on this are poorly conceived. This release has been in discussion for YEARS, since 2009! If a year or two ago they released this, it would be a bit more sensible. But instead we waited all this time for NO REAL UPGRADE. They have had their time, and misused it, allowing the competition to run far ahead of them and also disappointed customers with a lack of communication until this point.

Great word bidgrid, i think mots of The guys that is disapointed ( i understand that) has never do a Line of software code.
So they probaby don't know what is programming by step...

Sorry, that doesn't phase me. Serato has been and continues to be the industry standard with SSL, and ITCH 2.0 to me is drastically different from its predecessors in the best modular way.

I will bet big money on seeing a 2.1 release with at least one additional major feature in a year or less.

You would be surprised by how many of us were or are programmers (some of us since the early 90s..damn that dates me haha). A version release (even if it had a major rewrite) taking years is far from impressive.

Except none of us have a multi-million dollar project under our belts. In this case, only the guys at Serato do.

There are many more aspects to software design than just writing a line of code.

Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...and how does that apply at all to this discussion?

You wanted to know where 2 years of our time went. There's your answer dude.

sorry to say this but itch's hope in the long term it would have been inplementing video , this would have been the only advantage they would have on traktor , you don't have to be a f**k*ng genius to see that traktor is now hawing the upperhand (with all the new bels and whistles), and i truly don't kare if itch has advanced in 3 years as much as others in 5 this has no importance when the product is weaker then it's competitors ,and it's definetly more restrictive(software and hardware), there is nothing in this moment apealing about itch . . . but if it would had video that could turn the outcome for them but it seems they missed they'r chance . . .
sad very sad :(

Could those of you repeating the same ideas over and over both here in the ITCH 2.0 Preview Vid forum thread (serato.com) please do the rest of us a favor and contain your thoughts to one discussion.

I really enjoy using itch, although im a little taken back on how long it is going to take to be released. The added features are great and I look forward to using them, but when there are competitors out there with these features already, and more.... It's a risk of losing loyal customers to other competitors. I just don't understand the delay for customers of serato products.

Fair enough ChrisD....but respectfully, you are the one to control that.

Apologies for quoting myself in the other thread from here.

ChrisD...I suggest locking one of the two....its going to be impossible to control it otherwise I think lol.

Great work so far though, itch 2.0 looks very clean and easy to navigate. cheers

3rd quarter..... F%&K!

Why? Just show some common sense and courtesy.

This is a blog post about ITCH 2.0. It was posted by Brigid and is therefore a good opportunity to ask here any questions you may have.

The other discussion is a forum thread and a better place to +1/rant/cheer/yawn/whatever.

@DJDOUBLEA

It's true in that way too lol. When they update OSX or iOS they make a lot of back-end changes that you normally wouldn't notice. OSX's performance is the most appreciated by DJs though because it has a solid coding background.

My point still stands.

I believe I have shown common sense and courtesy in my posts. I had no idea certain areas here were okay to speak our mind about the topic and others are not for some reason but ummm okay...so I apologize for doing so.

I don't doubt that programming is hella hard. I couldn't do it, won't even attempt it and I appreciate its craziness. But if your customer base is screaming at you wouldn't it make more sense to hire some more people spread out this work load? or if thats not possible for a programming reason at least give some side updates like "hey guys ran into some issues we won't be able to include the bridge in this update...stay tuned for more" you gotta agree to that

I think serato was sitting on itch since 09. they didn't put it out becouse of serato scratch live. That was there main focus they will never make serato itch any were near there scratch live program becouse the would loose money. they make good controllers for itch so people buy them it looks hot and they want it. now on the other hand they have the itch FREE software [means we get the shit that serato scratch live out grows. itch has become a hand me down program. if they were to say make money from the upgrade tht serato itch provides we might just see some real changes. since 09 many many controller but a very very slow growth program, you do the math. yes traktor is 10 years old and vdj is 7 but in that time they have made the computer dj world what it is to day. they made changes and progressed. serato itch has had a head start be couse of that it was found technology. it should be alot better but its free so its not. itch will be in the cave man stages till people stop buying into there controllers. if they were to make there money or groupies on software there would not be a forum about itch. itch has has that software 2.0 ready to go in 2009 tell me do they really respect there customers or are they just trying to short us. I have v7 and i think i have been took for a ride. that they way the world works you see somthing nice you buy it but some times its got alot of things wrong inside of it you cant tell till your stuck with it. not a hater just a customer that has been crapped on

In that case I am wondering...

Is the back-end programming redesign going to make updates, minor/major bug fixes, and new features happen a lot faster?
How do you guys plan on implementing the SP-6? Mapping to the controller or via the keyboard?

Thanks!

C'mon mannnn, Video-SL and Bridge....

For as long as this has been held off, it should be the minimum feature set for 2.0 since the plug-ins are already available to market.

I'm greatful for the the GUI overhaul and the SP-6 including (FINALLY), but Video-SL and Bridge should already be there.

I think serato was sitting on itch since 09. they didn't put it out becouse of serato scratch live. That was there main focus they will never make serato itch any were near there scratch live program becouse the would loose money. they make good controllers for itch so people buy them it looks hot and they want it. now on the other hand they have the itch FREE software [means we get the shit that serato scratch live out grows. itch has become a hand me down program. if they were to say make money from the upgrade tht serato itch provides we might just see some real changes. since 09 many many controller but a very very slow growth program, you do the math. yes traktor is 10 years old and vdj is 7 but in that time they have made the computer dj world what it is to day. they made changes and progressed. serato itch has had a head start be couse of that it was found technology. it should be alot better but its free so its not. itch will be in the cave man stages till people stop buying into there controllers. if they were to make there money or groupies on software there would not be a forum about itch. itch has has that software 2.0 ready to go in 2009 tell me do they really respect there customers or are they just trying to short us. I have v7 and i think i have been took for a ride. that they way the world works you see somthing nice you buy it but some times its got alot of things wrong inside of it you cant tell till your stuck with it. not a hater just a customer that has been crapped on

I dunno about all the conspiracy theories but i'm sure they could've hired some more programmers if it really was that hard

if serato had been honest from the start and didnt put all that hype behind the truth they would not of sold there controllers serato itch is going to belly flop becouse of this mistake. serato scratch live is were its at and just from this big disappointment, might have made traktor #1

traktor already is no.1

@Serato, Are we expecting some Live demos of 2.0 or this was it?, im curious about SP6 sampler functionality, sounds to me that will be triggered by keyboard since no midi mapping functionality was announced. If so, what happens with DDJ-S1 users with laptop under the controller?

see so they will make vdj number too lol

serato scratch live craps on vdj to me but... what is itch the slowest upgrading program there is......

would I be right in guessing that there is 4 banks of 6 samples each?

traktor already is no.1

^ woops

I would think that shortly after 2.0 is released there may be a 2.1 with Bridge access involved....wasn't it that way with SSL? I believe so if I remember correctly. Just a thought....I already own Ableton/Bridge/SL/VSL. As far as video, hopefully they're doing a complete rehaul that would make current VSL customers happy and integrate with Itch. Just my thoughts at the moment...

they still have to iron out DDJ-S1 bugs, the NS6 is coming out, the Novation Twitch is coming out, each one usually with its own set of bugs. It's going to take a while :)

Well I like the look of the new Itch 2.0, and I hope...i REALLY hope the beatgrids and sync functions are truely updated, because ever since 1.7, the beatgrids don't quantize right and anytime i use the sync button i get odd start points.

But anyways. If i am disappointed about anything with the new itch 2.0 is that they mentioned nothing about BRIDGE. And i'm sorry, but i spent 1500 bucks on a ns7fx, and i don't use traditional tables and mixer, and the ns7 doesn't work with the rane sl box and SSL, so the hopes of having bridge for me is pretty much zip. but the video did say that it has these features and MORE. So i'm hoping that buy Q3 when its officially out, that the bridge will be included in the release. I'm a former programmer so i know how it is no easy task to program ANY software. one line of code can destroy a module of coding easily. But i hope you serato boys really come out with the bridge for itch SOON, cause i got my apc40 and ableton 8 suite already for it.

Well I like the look of the new Itch 2.0, and I hope...i REALLY hope the beatgrids and sync functions are truely updated, because ever since 1.7, the beatgrids don't quantize right and anytime i use the sync button i get odd start points.

But anyways. If i am disappointed about anything with the new itch 2.0 is that they mentioned nothing about BRIDGE. And i'm sorry, but i spent 1500 bucks on a ns7fx, and i don't use traditional tables and mixer, and the ns7 doesn't work with the rane sl box and SSL, so the hopes of having bridge for me is pretty much zip. but the video did say that it has these features and MORE. So i'm hoping that buy Q3 when its officially out, that the bridge will be included in the release. I'm a former programmer so i know how it is no easy task to program ANY software. one line of code can destroy a module of coding easily. But i hope you serato boys really come out with the bridge for itch SOON, cause i got my apc40 and ableton 8 suite already for it.

Well I like the look of the new Itch 2.0, and I hope...i REALLY hope the beatgrids and sync functions are truely updated, because ever since 1.7, the beatgrids don't quantize right and anytime i use the sync button i get odd start points.

But anyways. If i am disappointed about anything with the new itch 2.0 is that they mentioned nothing about BRIDGE. And i'm sorry, but i spent 1500 bucks on a ns7fx, and i don't use traditional tables and mixer, and the ns7 doesn't work with the rane sl box and SSL, so the hopes of having bridge for me is pretty much zip. but the video did say that it has these features and MORE. So i'm hoping that buy Q3 when its officially out, that the bridge will be included in the release. I'm a former programmer so i know how it is no easy task to program ANY software. one line of code can destroy a module of coding easily. But i hope you serato boys really come out with the bridge for itch SOON, cause i got my apc40 and ableton 8 suite already for it.

I don't understand why people are so upset about this release. First of all Q3 (meaning sometime in September usually) is not that far considering the beta testing 2.0 has to pass. We will most probably have early builds to play with at the start of the summer.

Now about 2.0. It is obvious that this is a complete rewrite of ITCH and this can only mean good things for its users. The GUI is finally on par with the competition and the day mode is actually a very welcome addition. I don't think we'll see any GUI changes for years to come cause this job seems pretty much complete.
The SP6 is actually a big improvement over SSL. Not only there are 4 different sample banks (which actually make this an SP24) but we have control over the sample's pitch. It's not clear if SP6 playback is quantized as well but even if it isn't it will be fairly easy to be implement in an other release.
Smart crates and file management improvements are great for all us iTunes haters.
Serato playlists is a nice addition but along with SP6 demonstrate ITCH 2.0 greatest ability; plug-ins support. Essentially this makes 2.0 VSL compatible and expect Video to come soon after 2.0 is released.
All and all this is a good update. Doesn't seem so on a first look but dig a bit deeper and you will realize this is what ITCH needed to become competitive again. I am sure that new releases will come much faster with this new architecture.

I haven't read all of the comments yet but all I can say is I have been saying for a while if Serato would have come out and given us an idea of what they were working on then all the speculation, anticipation, and building up 2.0 to the point where anything would have been a disappointment.
I have been looking to find info from anywhere and all you go to are nothing but speculation which makes it worse. Now its not coming out til Q3!? I came here from Traktor and if it weren't for the Numark V7s I would go back and lead the march for others to do the same. At LEAST I see 4 decks!
Then, I have heard of the whole "Wait til 2.0 comes out" since 2009!!! And more recently a Beta testing being available in April of 2011. I would like to hear about most of the problems I see on the forums being fixed, an overhauling of the effects, and just generally more info by this point.
If its because it's a "so called" free than let us know that the upgrades are just gonna be mediocre and to think twice before dropping close to a grand on a controller to go with it. That way we can choose between Scratch Live (and the hefty premium that goes with the "box" or mixer) and Traktor Pro. Upgrades from previous versions are $99 and are more than worth it. If someone comes up with a solid way for DJs to use the the two headed Numark Monsters (the NS7FX and the V7s) with Traktor then Serato Itchis in some serious trouble. My humble opinion. But I am just one DJ stuck in the Purgatory of itch 1.71 and 2.0!!!!!

you can do that in ssl. the SP6 looks like it copies the functionality directly from SSL.

This is such a huge disappointment, the reason they said nothing for this upcoming release is that no one would of bought an itch controller now I'm stuck with a giant paper weight.

Finally!! Great job Serato! Im use to SSL and the current itch layout im not a fan of. This new look will definitely be a much welcomed improvement thanks for listening to us!

paper weight? it's still functions exactly as advertised - the problem is that Itch was just *so* far behind Scratch Live in terms of features that it's taken this long to even remotely come close and even then it's not...

Definitely disappointed, but at the same time, I got Itch to rock weddings and mobiles cause I was sick of lugging my decks to gigs where 90% of the crowd could give two shits that I'm on decks so the lack of bells and whistles in Itch doesn't really bug me that much.

People want it to be like Traktor which had the advantage of basically being the same program across all iterations so developments in traktor is immediately translated into traktor scratch since they are the same program.

With Itch Serato decided to create something from the ground up (I'm sure there's tons of legacy code from scratchlive but still) and create a new program just for the controller market which is a shame since itch is lacking so many of the features that we got used to in Scratch live. That and Serato is very diligent about releases so priority is more stability than feature implementation.

Good for you that you take it to weddings but I use it to actually dj and I could care less what the interface looks like. It's about function and itch is as basic as it comes, even the current effects are garbage. There are so many new products out that are taking djing to a whole new level like the ableton live traktor etc...that it makes itch look like it belongs in an antique store.

I'm glad that there are vertical waveforms in the center now!

And as far, as programing goes maybe you should hire the guy the made the cue play dj app for the iPhone cause what that guy did in three months serato couldn't do in two an a half years and that's just some tiny iPhone app that does more than itch....pathetic.

yea, when i actually want to dj, i use turntables :)

That said, Itch always seemed first and foremost to be a deck/cdj replacement system from the get go. They never advertised more features than that and I don't think they ever intended the initial units to focus more on the "controllerism" side of things. Granted the new Novation Twitch seems to be moving more in that direction, but still...

I think if you want more features and want to move towards the whole controllerism thing, you should sell your controller and get something that better fits your needs. Maybe an S4, or maybe a standalone controller and Traktor, or maybe go all abelton...

Serato has always been synonymous with getting the basics right in terms of feel and functionality - it's never been about bells and whistles even though they are adding more features...

Even better since this indicates direct compatibility with SSL plug-ins. So Video and Bridge are closer than ever

And you also have to understand that "taking it to the next level" shit is overrated - maybe 10% of djs out there will actually take anything to the next level.

Most will just either be lazier, rely on the shortcuts without breaking out of the box, or just being doing the exact same thing the 2-turntables and a mixer crowd was doing for years with an effect or two added in... I have never seen an ableton DJ set that has ever impressed me more than a super-skilled DJ behind the decks - and i've seen a whole lot of ableton sets...

Hell, even in the amazing videos that Craze, Shiftee, and Rafik are doing, there's not too much they're doing that couldn't be done in scratchlive with the help of some midi controllers and a lot of practice...

If you really want to take it to the next level with crazy effects, loops, etc, maybe serato is just not right for you.

#fail, well I am happy 1.5 works for me. two digital decks, no effects, no features, lol

When u first hook up the Pioneer SS1 to the current version of itch , the software looks very basic and to be honest ugly !! It doesnt match the quality of the Pioneer midi controller visually , and the waveform is soo big it makes you go dizzy !! So , as a very happy Serato scratch user i wouldn't even consider buying an SS1 until this upgrade is out there .

@Schuyler I thought we had that already

I for one am happy to see Serato meet must of our feature request. Like Bridgid said, just because we're no getting the full package now doesnt mean they're not coming. I'd rather have a stable software. Thanks Serato. Really looking forward to the release and video plug in.

after all these years and request no video no 4 decks FAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They're working on it. I'm pretty sure video plug in will follow shortly after the release. Either way, when we purchased Itch we didnt buy it for video. That would be a step forward!!!

in love with smart crates.

acctualy all the features coming. can't wait!

oohhhhh yeah!!! :)) cant wait for it!

ScratchLIVE has had this EXACT same functionality since the SP-6 was FIRST introduced.....so I don't know how this is an improvement upon it. Also, as for the SP-6 being quantized.....this is something that I have been requesting of ScratchLIVE since the Sp-6 was FIRST mentioned, and MUCH to my DISAPPOINTMENT, has not been implemented thus far. So your point about it being an "EASY" implementation, though probably true, is NOT LIKELY to happen anytime soon.....at least in the time frame that you're expecting!

I think serato was sitting on itch since 09. they didn't put it out becouse of serato scratch live. That was there main focus they will never make serato itch any were near there scratch live program becouse the would loose money. they make good controllers for itch so people buy them it looks hot and they want it. now on the other hand they have the itch FREE software [means we get the shit that serato scratch live out grows. itch has become a hand me down program. if they were to say make money from the upgrade tht serato itch provides we might just see some real changes. since 09 many many controller but a very very slow growth program, you do the math. yes traktor is 10 years old and vdj is 7 but in that time they have made the computer dj world what it is to day. they made changes and progressed. serato itch has had a head start be couse of that it was found technology. it should be alot better but its free so its not. itch will be in the cave man stages till people stop buying into there controllers. if they were to make there money or groupies on software there would not be a forum about itch. itch has has that software 2.0 ready to go in 2009 tell me do they really respect there customers or are they just trying to short us. I have v7 and i think i have been took for a ride. that they way the world works you see somthing nice you buy it but some times its got alot of things wrong inside of it you cant tell till your stuck with it. not a hater just a customer that has been crapped on

@dj5fifty:

There is NO NEED to post the EXACT SAME comment, in the EXACT SAME thread twice!!!

I was actually exited when i saw this Itch 2.0 preview video.
I'm a Scratch Live DJ, for about 4 years now, and still been hauling my Turntables to gigs.
Also an Ableton user, but mostly use it separate and not live. I really prefer the simple turntable approach for live DJ'ing. But with this update and that little twitch controller, I think I just might go Itch for those smaller mobile gigs.

Rather have it stable than crammed with features...

Also, I cannot remember any 2.0 announcement in 2009 ?
Just some people nagging in the forums about it back then ?
I thought this video was the 2.0 announcement ?

its the truth if you read the forum 2 days ago and now you will see serato rider turning to serato haters

dj5fifty, stop littering the thread, you've posted the same "I think serato was sitting on..." 3 times here. Grow the F up!

your just mad serato itch aint good your just mad you mates aint on there game and you have been buying in to the lies of itch lol you are just mad at your self.

say it warp note serato failed me lol

they took the ssl (old 2006 software and gave it to the itch riders lol) and hyped it up to be something great and its something of a disappointing. so warp note kick rocks so keep prayin f*** boy

Honestly, I could care less about adding Video......could care less about adding Bridge.......could care less about FLAC support too.......ALL I WANT IS A TEMPO SYNC'D SP-6!!!

so blACK AVENGER

SO ITS SOUNDS LIKE SERATO ITCH IS FOR YOU

Not yet, apparently!

Brigid got we get more pitch range? in 2.0

TEMPO SYNC'D SP-6 aint it on the itch 2.0

No, they made no mention of the SP-6 being "Tempo-Sync'd".

Dj5fifyy,
I guess u got nothing better to do but to trash Itch. U sound like a bitter ex....

not at all dj fungus just think they could have done a better job in three hole years. I am in fact a disappointed customer if you get my drift

Dissapointed customers: I don't suspect any of you are programmers...it takes lots of work/time to code one simple thing. Granted I'll agree with three years being too long but I think these guys don't deserve that kind of bashing lol....

Side note: I personally want video because the bar I dj at wants video and people like to watch it. Thats prob why most people are requsting it...(for the people who could "care less about mp4")

Djsooo..you have the worst arguments ever take a look at 80 percent of this thread this update is an epic fail on serato's behalf and it's not just my comments.....your exactly right serato is your perfect wedding party dj software and has no place in a club setting.

What kind of failed argument is that? Why should I have a programming degree to be satisfied with my DJ software? I'm a DJ I'm also pretty understanding (i think we all are) basic communication shuts everyone up fan boys included

Lets have a real talk for all you DISSAPOINTED people.. yall need to get a life and be thankfully for everything you do get from these good folks at SERATO!! These are FREE upgrades that they are working on and they could charge your ass hundreds of $$$ with every upgrade they drop but they dont.. Be thank that thye even care about are needs and wants.. and for everyone CRYING about Video and stuff WHO gives F about a Video.. REAL DJ's dont worry about Videos and all that stuff.. We mix and scratch MUSIC, not trying to be videographer!! if people are watching your videos more they they are listen to your music take your ass to MTV or something!! If your not happy with what you see then move on and kick rocks and go out and over $600 on you next DJ program and all that stuff!! Im tired of coming here and people boo whoing and not being thankful for the things we do get in LIFE!! I LOVE everything i have seen so far and i switch back and forth from ITCH and SL thru the week.. I want to THANK everyone at SERATO for the fine job they do with the updates and everything.. its not EASY and just like DJ'n you cant please everyone!! and for everyone talkin about this time frame of 2-3yrs for this release ummm lets just say they have given up update after update and like 5 versions of ITCH so far thats what they been working on and workin on it to figure out what works and dont work thru them versions.. soo yeah it has taken 2-3yrs but they have given us a product to work with wheather your bitching ass likes it or NOT!!! At the END of the DAY just be THANKFUL!!!

We would be thankful if we had something to be thankfull about....all we got is a video and no date to be realistic

Really no video.
doesn't mean you are not workign on it?
Doesn't mean you ARE workign on it either.
Not gonna rant just highly disappointd.

DjShi--y,

We are all somewhat dissapointed with the delay in features, but instead of thrashing, be thankfull for what u got. Otherwise get with Serato programmers and show them how to do their job better.

oh and I paid for VSL so I would pay for video on itch, so come off the soap box about being thankful. I can be disappointed that what I thought was coming did not come.
It's called being Human. And last time I check it was freedom of speech aroudn here.

Ok but what did we get??? I don't know about you I'm still running 1.7.1 today theres no beta just a crapy vid

Dj smoov there's a sucker born everyday and you live up to that saying, you go and be happy with the worst update in history. When I spend 1700 bucks in dj hardware I expect the best this wasn't some $199 dj setup. Serato got it way wrong this time and the fact that you back it up shows me you know nothing of djing

Don't blame the programmers! Good decisions start at the TOP!

@Serato, what you need is a reasonable product road-map and a serious product release cycle. I realize there there is probably a huge backhaul of hardware that you guys are constantly evaluating and coding against. Maybe even a dedicated research team pumping the timeline full of projects. But.. Please hire more managers, developers, or somebody with a PMP certification and their head screwed on straight to sort this crap out. Ultimately the end-user is who you need to keep happy, not Rane, Numark, Pioneer, etc.

Yes i'm a programmer, I have degrees, I manage projects, and i've been doing it for years. I understand secrecy, but when your CUSTOMERS are abandoning you, there needs to be a serious strategy change here. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. ITCH 2 is a huge milestone in my opinion but if time is a luxury that the development team cannot afford, transparency & visibility are a reasonable compromise. We CANT see that anything is being done AT ALL!

As far as customer relations is concerned, the atmosphere here really feels like Serato is headed for a serious trainwreck. I've invested a lot of time and money into Serato just like everyone else here.. please don't make me regret it.

Damn its quotes like this that make us all look bad. To be fair we don't know anything about his DJ skills/knowledge however i do agree with your point that 1700 bucks is a decent chunk of change. Hell if Itch needs to charge $30 per upgrade i'd gladly pay intsead of this bullshit

You dont need all those extra features to do real djing. Yeah it would be nice to have, but noT necessary. If u wantef to go and buy 2 cdjs, a mixer, and any other software with a sound card, it would come out alot more expensive!!

objective look

* SP-6 Sample Player to add drops and samples to your performance.
Cool but really don;t use this. Old folks tired of freaking Sirens and explosions
* Brand new Display Modes with a range of deck layouts.
Eye candy thank you
* Night and Day color schemes for easy visibility under any conditions.
Never been a problem but OK Thanks again
* Improved Sync Engine with new visual feedback.
I'll believe it when I see it and give you many thanks if it works with the new controller from innovation
* Enhanced Album Art browsing for quick identification of your music.
Don't use this.
* "Smart Crates" which auto-fill using keywords from your music library.
Still use Itunes because you don't recognize video files.
* "Serato Playlists" enabling sharing of your sets online.
Uh yeah not doing this ever.
* New File Management options to allow you to easily copy crates and tracks to external drives for your gig.
This may be cool.

So I'm nto tryign to be down but for me none of this stuff is ground breaking or going to make my life easy. Video on itch or a controller liek the innovation one for Serato SSL/VSL would make my life better. Now soem people might like this and there may be more of them then me so I respect that you have done your research and chosen the correct path. But Don't get mad at me because all I wanted was video, and I stated my Dissapointment about it.

+1

+1000

Ok, many have asked actual questions about 2.0 and NONE have been answered (as usual). However, I think Brigid is great and usually has the most common sense posts.


Here goes.
1. Is there any truth that ITCH now recoded to be able to integrate SSL type plugins or have the same type of updates as SSL?

2. Will 2.0 allow ANY midi mapping? If so, what can be mapped?

3. Will we see another 1-2 year development to implement major features already requested?





Now just my 2 cent on some of the posts.

Most of us could give a crap about how hard it is to program, this is not a programming forum....so that is not a reason to tell people that one major feature and several small add-ons justify a 2+ year development cycle. Either way most DJ's and approximately 0% of our clients care about step programming or anything programming related.

Many of us would care less about ITCH had we not purchased the CONTROLLERS that are far and away locked to the industry sub-standard software in it's current versions.
I don't want to sell my CONTROLLER just because of the hostage situation of the software. I believe a HUGE percentage of people would gladly use the competing product (mainly TSP) if Numark would get off their Arses and let their users have a choice. So NO, I'm not going to sell my incredible controller simply because of the current software it happened to come with. I will absolutely leave SERATO if the competition offer great support for my investment and Serato doesn't catch up.

Serato owes me nothing, Serato promised nothing.

I DID NOT BUY SERATO ITCH, I BROUGHT AN INCREDIBLE CONTROLLER (NS7/V7) THAT CAME WITH ITCH SOFTWARE.

ITCH 2.0 is looking better. I and others will use the best software for our controllers.......PERIOD. If that happens to be ITCH then so be it, I've already paid for the privilege to use it.

If your TIRED of coming here......STOP! No one is forcing you to read the posts and you have no bearing upon anyone else's opinion of a product they paid for.

Simple, get to enjoying what you have and thinking a company personally cares about you. I have something for you...stop buying their products, updating your software (apparently you're happy) and see how many newsletters you receive.

Go and be the unpaid PR person for SERATO, that's your choice, but don't think other paying customers don't have a right to discuss their opinions and request on a public forum.

+1

I think all of us wouldnt mind paying for upgrades!!

I concur, and have suggested it many times. Though it's not likely to happen.

Imagine if they announced we would have to pay $30-50 for this upgrade..........there would be much more bashing

hellllllllll yes brutally bashed as i say mate
boom crap you are right

not if they said $50 for this upgrade to be released this month

serato itch 2. never gone be release is the best

Paying for updates would mean more frequent upgrades.

yep cuz they are money hungry mate

So we can not run SL-Video with it (I thought you said you had been listening) 2 years to beef up the interface and add effects ah well when is V3.0 coming.

Trust me i fully understand that everyone has an opinion about everything and this and that!! Lets look at the History of DJ'n, how about take it back to the create days and heavy turntables (which I use Technics, today) all they had was to go by what they heard thru headphone and a cheap mixer with no effects and none of that stuff.. Now here we are today with US soo called "Suckers" CRYING talkin about this aint good enough for you here let me give you something that is groundbreaking.. How about Serato put "AUTO-DJ" in the next update and that shit would be CRAZZZYYYY!!! All of you would be happy about that now wouldnt you!! If you need more things then what they have given us soo far then i think you need to PRACTICE more and learn more and see what works and dont work.. I Practice almost everyday trying to learn something NEW and what sounds good together as far as effects and how to use them and take em to above and beyond.. they best DJ's in the WORLD dont even Look at there computers when it comes to DJn excpect when selecting a SONG.. Maybe you should take your "SUCKER ASS" and practice more and quit wanting everything handed to you.. the best quote is "Nothing in life is FREE" it takes hard work and dedication and a passion to DJ.. This is my CAREER and I have a passion to DJ.. You prolly work a 40hr job and just DJ for fun to make alil change on the side but US CAREER DJ's that take this serious are thankful for what we do get and dont want everything handed to us because we find ways to be creative and PRACTICE!!! You can call me what you want to call me a "SUCKER" ect.. Im creative and im still learning new things everyday with what I have now.. and with NEW features it only enhances in due time.. All im saying is be Thankful for what they do give us.. and I highly doubt that they have been really workn on this for 2 yrs and also giving us updates over the time too.. look at ITCH when it first came out to where it is now and what its goin to be with 2.0.. There has been alot of progess.. that all you can ask for is progress!!

We havent even got to play with 2.0 in a beta yet soo we dont even know what this is capable of doing.. All we have is a video.. its soo helllllllllaaa promise in my eyes..

i think its been said before this is a forum, glad you're a fan and all but if you can't respect other's views keep it to yourself

I should add I love my NS7 and itch just wanted the ability to add Video to my repertoire more and more being asked to run video at my bars and clubs as well as the wedding and parties so I am a little disappointed yeh but my life will go on and I will find a way to deliver what I am asked for just wanted to use the Serato solution having been using it since the very beginning yes the beginning.

+100000000000000000

Was so looking forward to video this year, nothing was promised but just had the expectation of major breakthrough update. The sampler is cool and im sure a lot of people will appreciate it but i was just fine with soundplant and none of the other features are something that will improve my djing or crowd experience.

Thx you for the preview. i like all the new features, but I'm still having issues with Itch 1.7 right now.

You all who are defending Serato are hilarious.

These updates aren't "FREE"

Why do you think you paid HUNDREDS (if not THOUSANDS!) for just a MIDI CONTROLLER?!

Serato gets a big part of this profit as well, not just the manufacturers, jeez, use your heads.

"Oh it's so hard programming, blah blah blah"

Programming this software is SERATO'S JOB. They are NOT your buddy making software out of his bedroom in his spare time. THEY ARE A COMPANY.

So it's taken since 2009 to make an upgrade that adds ONE feature from their other software and make the interface light and dark grey? WOW, IMPRESSED.

Use some common sense guys. We are CUSTOMERS, not "recipients" of free material. I bought a MIDI controller/fx midi controller designed for ITCH for $1500 and definitely didn't get my money's worth. 2.0 was being talked about here when I purchased it with talk of great new features, and Serato has STILL failed to deliver.

dj smoov you prolly djing since they made records i know. your an unc in this dj game you prolly start scratchin on dishes in ya moma house as a kid watch leave it to beaver. i know, but this is 2011 unc and people like to see 3 years go bye and think they are doing big things you know. back when you was little that just came out with tv i know, it would look amazing to your old ass prolly just learnd how to use a computer

i saw your help thread about windows 7 64 bit having problems... I am sure since you posted a help thread they are working on it

WOW..LOL @5fifty its funny ive really only been DJ'n almost 4 yrs now and im 26yrs old...Thanks bro for the "OLD MAN" comments.. Im just saying people got to understand where we are coming from to understand where we are going.. Study the history of DJ'n bro, soo that your can appriciate the BIZ!! I have tought myself everything I know as far as scratching and mixing.. Im still learning to this DAY! Im not a DMC champ or anything close to it but I will say im good enough to earn myself close to 6 figures a yr... and its just not by knowing people like alil of horrible "DISC JOCKEYS" but its by talent and understanding the game!! its ok, but have RESPECT for what these people are doing.. they dont have to do shit at all for you could have left your ass with 1.2 or whatever and said thats all we have to offer.. Trust me im not fully happy with 1.5 or 1.7 but i see a nice change and hard work in 2.0.. The Sample player alone is all i could asked for.. as far as everyone else.. yeah video i understand for the V-"Disc Jockeys" but what else is there for yall to ask for right now.. but some effects, a sample player and a stable software?????? I see in 2.0 it COULD be!! but wont know til it comes out!!

The only person that can PLEASE a CROWD is YOURSELF!! Not the software or hardware but YOU and your CREATIVE mind... If you work hard enough at everything and understand what works well then run with it and enhance it with other things such as your TALENT!!!

As long as ITCHv2 allows me to MIDI map SP6, I will be fairly satisfied with the release.

Its just speculation at this point but has anyone considered that maybe they'll announce more features before Q3 or beta release..

Maybe they're holding back in some sadistic game of manipulation?? LOL jk.

4 years? Look I'm not hating or saying anything about that, but some of us have been Dj'ing for ALOT longer than that and have seen things change drastically over our years doing it.

For you to come in downing someone about practice when you really don't know everyone is really going too far.

Do your thing and enjoy what you have, but again others have just as much right to express their opinion.

Seriously guys, you pay for what you get. That means that when you bought that NS7 or Itch device, you are paying for what's written on the box and it can do for you at that point of time. It's a HID controller mapped 1-to-1 to Itch and that's it. End of question. Whatever Serato releases in the future are all freebies and nice things they are throwing our way, so please don't expect them to bring EVERYTHING on a plate for you right away. From the first release of Itch to now, we have 4 decks, effects, SP6, beatgrids and better UI. They did say that they are continue working on video and the Bridge, so let's please just enjoy this upgrade, and let the Serato guys do their thing. Programming is a really tough and respectable job, so give these guys a shoutout instead of ranting like kids. Thanks.

I don't think the issue is pleasing the crowd as much as it is about Serato pleasing their customer base. If we were all bitching about sync because we don't want to beat match anymore then yeah you have a point but in this day and age sticking to to the basics is gonna get you stuck in neutral career wise

SHOUTOUT TO THE PROGRAMMERS

you don't deserve the crap its your bosses and upper management that needs to get their act together. And we all bought Itch based on what it could do AND what it could do in the future. Nobody buys computer software like this and doesn't expect updates. Bring yourself to 2011 my man

That's exactly it. Serato has *always* been about getting the basics right and stable before adding the bells and whistles. Traktor has *always* had a more robust feature set at the cost of things like stability and usability (although the gap is closing).

If you're mad that you bought something that doesn't do what you wish it did rather than what it actually does, then don't take it the wrong way, but you're sort of daft. I'm not going to buy a sedan and then get mad that it doesn't have a hatchback. If you bought an Itch machine for what you thought they may or may not add down the road at some unforeseeable future time then the only person you have to blame is yourself.

I understand disappointed - hell I personally hate Itch and am also disappointed that 2.0 just seems to be getting more in line with features we've enjoyed in scratchlive, but at the same time, I never expected anything more than what was printed on the box.

we love you Micheal Jackson! r.i p.! 4 decks!!

Looks good to me. Not sure what all complaints are about...I was a traktor user for years and have recently switched to itch after buying a DDJ S1. I wanted to forget about the software and just have a decent bit of hardware to mix with which I now have. These new features just make it even better. 2 things though:

1) what channel does the sample player output route to? Do you need more than 2 or oes it go though the virtual decks?

2) the video looks like its an early version of the update. I'm hoping they tidy up the gui a bit as there is lots of empty space in-between and around the virtual decks which could be improved. It looks professional in 1.8 and this takes it back a few steps IMO. Nothing major just an observation and as I said I prefer to focus on the hardware not software...

Keep it up serato!

Ps. I'm assuming there will be a firmware update for the S1 to take advantage of the new features? E.g. Ability to trigger samples using shift and hot cues or something similar??? Otherwise timing of the S1 release sucks!

Hell Yeah!!! looks great.. some similarities to Traktor.. can't wait!!!! :-)

I am very impressed what Serato has to offer for 2.0. Especially the graphic interface. Being a SSL user since 06, I will be purchasing a Pioneer DDJ-S1 in the near future. If Serato decides later to include video in itch, hopefully they will offer current VSL owners that software at no additional charge or discount. Or find a way to use VSL in itch that is currently used for Scratch Live.

4 years? Look I'm not hating or saying anything about that, but some of us have been Dj'ing for ALOT longer than that and have seen things change drastically over our years doing it.

For you to come in downing someone about practice when you really don't know everyone is really going too far.

Do your thing and enjoy what you have, but again others have just as much right to express their opinion.

Trust me I respect others that been in the game for 10, 20, 30 yrs.. BUT that does NOT mean you know what your doing when it come to DJ'n because alot of people out here are what I call "Disc Jockeys" people that just press a button and play music.. All im saying with some prcatice and playing around with your controller and ITCH and some creativity you can come up with something TRUST me... Im not the BEST DJ in the world but I work hard at what I do and Im all putting out a good SET everytime im out DJ.. Take a look at some peoples videos on youtube they are doing stuff on ITCH that Im still trying to figure out how.. and that with just what we have now and i think its some very interest and cool features.. I understand everyone has a right to state what they want but honestly 90% of the post i have read on here today have BASHED 2.0... DISSAPOINTED.. how about we get the product 1st and all we can ask for is stablity and a good product and we work with it.. If not go buy virtual DJ or Traktor or whatever else...

How about if you're happy with it, state that if you wish and move on and no problem.
If you're not happy with it, state that if you wish then move on and no problem.

It's when someone gets on their high horse acting as if they know another's situation or use of a product they bought, that is problem.

If you're new to it and don't know the history of why some are saying their disappointed, move on.

Most of us get this principle, some feel when you come on a PRODUCT public forum and say you don't like this or are disappointed with with a feature or lack of it, they have the right to express that without anyone trashing their ability or their character.

When people come on saying they think the upgrade or existing product is incredible, you don't see many bashing them, it's only when you DON'T heap praise or say something against a company that SOME will start talking about their character, how un-American or other ridiculous comments.

It's as if they don't think Serato can stand up for their product or respond appropriately.

If you're a fan, and can't stand for anyone to say anything about a company, then you may not want to be reading those posts...stick to the titles that say "ITCH is incredible".

When you're somewhat older you will realize some things are not quite as important as defending a lifeless product or company that will not do the same for you if you don't continue PURCHASING their product.

Is free yeah?

djfive50 has only posted in itch hate threads...no where has he posted in any other threads including betas and feature request very suspect...

djfive50 first post on the forum was yesterday...Do you even own itch?

all these super angry most are new posters check there post history ....have not been around long :) you NI guys are busted LOL

this is how I felt after I watch the vid Watchwww.youtube.com 30 sec mark

ahaha

I agree with you DJ Cs.... in some parts.



I am not going to lie, I love my NS7.... I am proud to say I will be able to tell my grandkids I was part of the new Digital movement... I do not regret buying my NS7. Again, when it first came out it was the greatest concept on earth.... Serato has taken the DJ comcept and enjoyment to a whole new level...

Here is my problem:
People complaint and bark so much. I used to be one of those that did not stop complainting in the past...

Serato has done a good job hidding the fact.... They are simply shadowing Serato Scratch live.... Itch 2.0 is the perfect example of that statement... again, the new itch 2.0 is simply a copy and paste of serato Scratch Live.... In my opinion, it did not make sense from a business stand point creating the NS7 for serato scratch live from day one.... They made more money incorporating itch and limiting those hot new controllers like the ns7 from the hot features that scratch live had to offer at the time so they decided to create ITCH so that they can continue innovationg itch and create expectations and so on.

One more reason why it did not make sense to incorporatie all this new controllers like the ns7 to serato scratch live is because the serato controllers would not be sold anymore and they have already spend alot of money in that technology like technics and so on....

It took ITch 2 and half years to come up with a different software view, samples, and smart creates and so on. Come one that long to just come up with a serato scracth live type setting.... I understand they want to make sure that going forward ITch can handle Videos and so on. But again, I do not see how it will take 2 and half years for a major release....

It is funny cause now Itch 2.0 is coming out and you cant even use the NS7 for 4 channels DJs such as the NS6,,, So In my case I am going to end up buying the NS6 for portablity reasons and also I do not want to stay behind in technology and hate the Fact the I have to connect the Fx controller via USB. I do not have to do that with the NS6...

Again, I am not walking away from Itch at this point it is very stable and it does what I paid to do work with my NS7... So I do not feel like I overpaid given the innovation from the NS7 and also being the withing the first one to ever own one.. It gave me alot of exposure and alot more business. So I feel like I already got my investment back and some nice revenues....

I know this is a long email, I am just tryng to convey that ITch idea was simply a business decision to make more revenew... From a business stand point Itch makes money but Serato Scratch live stills has some nice client base... Again, Serato wanted to be more diversified..... and I think it has worked really well for them....

In conclusion, I caint wait for ITCH 2.0 to come out so I can get the features that I should have been given when I first bought the NS7,,,,

I can see Serato Scratch Live going obsolete down the road given that now the scratch live users have a stronger reason to upgrade to a better controller like ns6 and so on and still be able to use a serato scratch live type setting without loosing its versatility.

Thanks,
DJCarrero

it was rebuilt for the ground up to make it easier to port features back and forth

some of us turntable guys are die hard!

@djcarrero, good post.
However, the NS7 and V7 are only limited by Itch. Incredible products.
I am looking forward to 2.0 in that it will add more excitement to an already great controller.

@Dj Ace, im one of those diehards.

nice...

Ahem Correction VDJ Just Turned 4 Please get your facts straight. :-) I wish itch would be open to all controllers. ohh well i dont use it but seem alot of people are unhappy

i stand corrected VDJ radio is 4 years old VDJ is 7 years

No other software has been successfully made to work with the platters on these devices as effectively as ITCH has.

There's no technical reason why this isn't possible. It's simply the case the Serato has put in the hard yards to make ITCH perform really well with the platters on the Numark controllers. ITCH is an integral part of the reason why the V7 and NS7 are as awesome as they are.

Numark nailed the hardware, no doubt about that. But in a controller the hardware is nothing without good software integration.

Man, everyone needs to chill out! Itch 2.0 is gonna come out when its ready and thats its. If you guys dont like Itch or SSL move on to another software/hardware combo. Their are plenty of companies that want your money and the WILL charge you for a upgrade to the next version.

I could just imagine if Serato was charging for the 2.0 update, the crap you guys would be talking. But their are not!!! Serato wants to make sure you have a stable running program for you to use at the clubs/mobile gigs and in your bed room.

And I agree, that the NS7 and V7 are only limited to itch... And again, as I wrote on my previous and very long post there is a reason why they were not intergrated to serato Itch.... Again, it was a business decision... I am preety sure that if they wanted to intergrate The Ns7 and V7 and VCI 300 to work with SSL, it would have worked jsut as stabled as most controllers controlled by SSL....

I went to the gym this morning for about 1 1/2 hours. Man, my biceps are sore already.













































...oops, wrong thread.

the reason you love the hardware is because Serato nailed the software emulation...and also was part of the collaboration that helped create the ns7/ns6/v7

just look at e the mix deck's controller response...also made by numark. A controller is just a hands on approach to controlling software. The software almost does everything right? (Try using a ns7 without a computer) So what you love about the ns7 is based on the way software interacts...

well i still love my vci 300's! :)

YA YA I AGREE MATE!

I for one and VERY excited to see it. I had to divorce myself a little bit from the nice UI right now. I just got used to the decks below vs VDJ having them above (the library.) But I like the flexibility.

The sampler will be really fun and I cant wait to see how it all works with the hardware or software. WIth all the other behind the scenes stuff, I am sure it will set us up for alot more to come .... which has already been hinted to. Given this SSL-esc rebuild, I am sure it enables some reuse of the BRIDGE UI and Integration. So probably around the corner. Additionally, the sampler is probably alot more useful to more ITCH users compared to if they skipped the sampler complete and only delivered the Bridge. I think we would have heard alot more screams from non Abelton users/owners if it was just the BRIDGE and no sampler. So we all have to admit this is probably the smarter move right now.

Also, ITCH 2.0 is a FREE upgrade. I doubt Video will be free because you will need hardware to have proper routing of the cue and main output of the video. So just get over it now, okay? :)

Lastly, ITCH 2.0 has not been the ONLY ITCH development project in the past 2 years. ITCH has had several DOT releases that have introduced other features. This is what you call Agile development. You take your entire roadmap, break it up into packages, sequence the deliveries, and then deliver the functionality a little bit at a time. The alternative would have been only deliver DOT releases to support new controllers and hold all new functionality for ITCH 2.0 to make it a bigger bang.

Can anyone honestly tell me that would have been their preference? NO! Also more controllers in the game means more choices to fuel your creativity. It also attracts more users to the Serato camp, which does nothing but benefit us all!

Poorly conceived thinking behind this post. You PAID a premium for what is just an expensive MIDI controller to support ITCH development. It wasn't free, and isn't free. Updates (such as FX) require purchase of additional hardware. These updates are not free, at all. Consider how simple/limited in use the FX controllers are yet how they cost hundreds of dollars for just a few buttons and knobs with no internal processing. You DO PAY for updates.

In addition, in the last 2 years ITCH has developed at a snail's pace while competitors have run far ahead. Now, the most major update, still months away, has shown it plans to introduce very little to change ITCH's functionality? (Sampler? Cool, SSL has had this for YEARS, and this is the only feature we will see for MONTHS more)

And finally, our preference would be that they COMMUNICATE your supposed "roadmap" rather than make us wait forever for a substantial update, only to be letdown. Serato's lack of transparency is the cause of all this disappointment, and there is not debating that point.

how long have you waited?

If there is software that you like better than ITCH, be quiet and use it!!! Also, I hope most of you can DJ better than you spell.











And screw videos, get lights and have a real show.

WTF is 3rd Quarter ??????????

I'm wating for the sample player. I need it so much. Why to wait till the 3rd quarter? Is there any solution to beta testing?

I was wating for this SP 6 for the longest

hopefully the beat grid is a 1000 times more accurate...hopefully

ya always wanna say ni look there must be lot of ni guys here cuz it doesn't sound like it pleased most on these forums. and no i don't have all hate to say about itch i have 2 v7's I think they did a bangin job on the build of it. and there controllers are hot but the software could of been a lot better. before you say i am suspect check your self. if you are happy with the delay and the out come of itch after 3 years so be it. im happy for you at least you are happy with what you bought. as for me i dont like that it just looks like they made it ssl after 3 years you hear what im telling you after 3 years of making the itch just like the ssl. but maybe the scratch quality of the itch program might be the same as ssl with is a plus. but they could of put 2.0 out a year or 2 ago it would of been great. but no they didnt i would of like bridge it would of been great or vid. but nothing to account for 3 years of stalls and hype.only
a sampler. Now i am entitled to my own views on this problem. i spent money and i have been wainting like every one eles. so if you wanna call me NI call every one NI. I am not what you call a serato. com junky and i wouldn't be on here if it wasn't for the release of 2.0. so hope you understand what i am saying and you should call every one in here suspect cuz there is alot of hating not just me. and i own 2 v7's and ssl so i am very much entitle to speak about the program.

and p.s i didn't have to speak on any thing becus i had 88 percent of serato.com user complaint. leave that to you and your minyan aka serato d**** riders. talk tough to some on that actually now i aint for the cyber beef

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dj ace answers you questions

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i agree w this man,im happy its coming out ..finally but the time space on this update was long over due and i understand the programmers work is prob long and tedious but,like others say there could of been more of a change after 2 or 3 years. im glad its finally here,but on the other hand i'm disappointed cause i paid alot of money for something i thought when it came to updates ,would keep up w the comp and @ least its big brother scratch..just my thoughts.(everyone has a right to speak there mind on this. love ,peace,happiness.

Wellll said dj blaze7 .....

Can I use The Bridge with Serato ITCH?
Not yet! The Bridge for Serato ITCH will be released in 2011.

Did you find this useful? this is from serato and this is why people are not pleased a lie again

Without Quantization, the SP-6 BLOWS! I used it a bit when it was first released on ScratchLIVE, but soon learned it's vast limitations.....who the hell can "manually" keep up with 24 samples' pitch?!? For this reason, I rarely use it anymore. It SOOOOOOO has the potential to totally destroy Native's iteration, but for some trivial reason, Serato continue to hold it back from DOMINATING!!!

Why?!? ........ just frakin' do it already!

Implement it for ITCH & ScratchLIVE!








I bet, yet again, a partner company is holding you back from your true potential.....

Burn The Bridge!

Daing guess I still have to use virtual dj then for video that sucks all this wait for nothing keep your better sync ahhh give us video virtual dj had video for years now cant be that hard right?

The video is great. I love the look of 2.0 but not as much as the improved sync engine and sampling features. As a DJ with a great deal of interest in the technical aspect 2.0 is a wonderful tease.
Having purchased the NS7FX almost a year ago and following many of the posts related to it, I feel as though a lot of issues have been heard and produced. True, it's a long wait and anticipation sometimes stifles creativity (temporarily) but at some point a little faith is required. I have faith in companies like Rolls Royce,so much the only thing that I need to change immediately is my attitude. 2.0 is coming, I just have to wait and enjoy what I have in the meantime. Those of us who have been at this a long time and have seen the progress over the years are just grateful that now there are technical experts who work day and night to improve our products and our experience.
Go Serato!

In the above I meant to say that I trust companies like Rolls Royce, Rolex and Serato.

Guys stop the crying and complaining, I for one was very excited for ITCH 2.0, We have ask for Itch to look like Scratch Live, we got it, We ask for Sampler, We got it.We ask for better library management,We got it.
As least SERATO reading the FORUM and USERS request.
The only thing I was disappointed for is the 3 Quater release.
Come on SERATO, you know that ITCH users have been crying out to you guys for 2 years now.You could have done better. If now a full release the BETA version with the release of the video.If that was done I think more USERS would of been happy.
Dont get me wrong I have been a ITCH user since November 2009 when I bought my NS7FX. I love it and so far the ITCH software never let me down.
Keep up the work SERATO and listen more to the USERS Request.Lets hope in next release after 2.0 we would get the Bridge and Video.

Kudos! I think the only thing that would be missing I could think of in 2.0 far as dif stuff is video and maybe some on the fly effects,even though it has the separate effect controller.but for my vci 300 I can't do this until I buy the controller?? ...but now w scratch I just discovered now you can use the controller as you couldn't do @ first but scratch still has on the fly effects..now somebody answer this ...was it serato's intentions to sell you a stripped down version of the proggy,or give its full potential? I'm no programmer but I know for a fact this proggy has more to offer as our comp does,the latency is surpurb compared to others for sure,but I feel w balancing out the two programs together along w the hard work and better team leadership this is something that can be accomplished @ a reasonable pace......well I could on w this back in forth in this discussion as we all could,but as the saying goes beggars can't be choosey... I'm a client serato as others are. We just expected more from a great company that has the the dj digital world almost locked down as the comp tries to imitate.....looking forward for a better product in the future.:)

I see the truth hurts...LOL

all ur post talk about how much itch sucks...its true (go back and read ur post). As far as d***riding you are all over traktor...traktor this, traktor that...sound i not the only one riding! hahaha! Get the software that makes you happy...I did! Serato Scratchlive is off the f-ing hook with the bridge and itch is finally on its way to be as good are better. Hell Yeah I am pumped and satisfied...

I agree on the product being off the hook! Yea! ..once again.

never talk about traktor just that serato itch can have did better. dj ace were do u read such post. i think you should try reading my post better f*** boy. i am with itch thats why i care. dont have traktor i like serato and i have ssl. dam you dont read shit only what you wanna hear

dj ace just dont talk to me or post about me we have our own thoughts and thats all i dont wanna cyber beef.

dj ace are you with the 5fifty set cuz you are my fan or something i know i got swag but dam

Hi dj5fifty.

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion and we're listening to what you have to say but there's no need to throw abuse at individual forum members.

I say ITCH 2.0 is free, but that is an assumption. So far all the ITCH updates have been free.

I may be presuming too much, but given you can download SSL 2.X for free... ITCH updates will remain free as well. I know the price you pay for the equipment has the Serato license baked into it. But so far it seems like you are like a friend for life when Serato and their partnered solutions.

However realized today (searched out of curiosity) that NI charges $79 USD to upgrade form Traktor Pro 1.X to Pro 2.0.

In fact if you think in about other industry software providers and major non DOT upgrades: (ie 7.X to 8.X)
Ableton upgrades - PAY
Pro Tools upgrades - PAY
Reason upgrades - PAY
Traktor upgrades - PAY

VDJ and Cue are free updates. With Cue you have to wait until Numark signs off. If you are a Cue owner and dont want to wait for Numark's testing, you can pay $50 and get a VDJ license. No additional features. Just faster access to updates.

I wonder if all those ITCH haters over here pumping up Traktor are over in the NI forms griping about having to PAY the $79 upgrade cost?

It's a correct assumption. ITCH 2.0 will be a free upgrade.

Awesome!

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Good point mate!

Yaaa ha ha! Lmao! :P

is it just me or does 1.7.1 sound computerized and do you think since 2.0 is going to take alot from ssl is it going to scratch the same as ssl(meaning sound like ssl)

soundcard sepcs should allow that, yet for me there's no sound issues!

it just sound slightly comuterized when played at a loud setting like club party.

Hey dj5fifty,

Do you have the HiFi Resampler Option turned on in Playback tab of the ITCH setup screen?

micheal r yes i do why
yea i do

The HiFi Resampler reduces digital distortion, so if it was off it could have contributed to the "comuterized" sound you were describing.

Is the Bridge still on the cards for April in a minor version upgrade or has that been "Serato" Scratched?

lol ^_^

so is that like a bunch of people in the subway talking, train rails, and bad smells? lol

Will ITCH controlers be able to work with video in 2.0? The new changes are great. When willthe actual date of release be? (3rd Quarter when?)

Earlier in this thread, one of the Serato guys said Video would not be included in 2.0; however does not mean they are not working on it.

If you consider how Serato Video-SL was implemented, it was a separate piece of hardware you purchased and a separate software plug-in into SSL. I would assume the same approach, or something similar, with ITCH.

As for the actual date, that will depend on how "clean" the beta goes later this year (assuming there is a BETA.) With ITCH 1.7, it entered public beta around first of August 2010 and went live inside 45 days later. The Private Beta started in mid June 2010. 1.7 and 2.0 really are not comparable in terms of delivered features, but don't really have any other data to base a "guesstimate."

You wont ever see a software company commit to a firm deliver date until the product has been through beta testing.

Thank GOD

i'm excited about the upgrade =)

what's going on in the 3rd pic? it looks like there are 4 decks playing...

I dont know if anyone noticed this, but was browsing Ableton's sound packages and saw this on their /bridge site.

www.ableton.com

Note: Support for ITCH is coming soon. Stay tuned to www.serato.com for more information.

They have always stated that the bridge was coming to itch

Will this one work gud with pc or its best to use a mac

I thinked its guudder to usings wot ever you is mo comfity two usings

There is a whole thread for the Mac vs PC debate. Plenty of reading material on that subject. Head on over there before this blog thread takes a wrong turn. :)

serato.com

Plenty of other information available from Serato here:
serato.com

I'm feeling this one. Impatiently waiting lol.

cant wait for it to come out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!maddness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone please tell me that there's another Twitch controller currently in the works that has four deck control, four channel mixer and controls for sampler decks so Itch 2.0 can be fully exploited.

What I DJ with NOW
Vci 300 mk2 serato itch or
Vci 300 mk2 and pcr 300 midi mapped with ableton live 8

Honestly my take on all this is and what I plan on doing is, Investing in a APC 40.
Using Ableton to DJ and then if the bridge ever comes out, using them both. If you have the money you could invest in scratch live set up or traktor s4. With traktor there is ways now to link ableton up, dubspot has a bunch of videos on it now. I already wasted my money on the vci 300 mk2. If your just starting its a great piece of hardware but if your actually serious, and want to go farther with DJing your going to have to use ableton, or other software besides itch at this point. If 2.0 includes the BRIDGE I would upgrade to Allen Heath XD and everything would be golden. Right now, either dj in ableton or I would use traktor pro 2.

Overall 2.0 looks great if only the bridge were present....

Why couldn't Serato just lock down the mapping of everything else besides the Sp-6, and allow us to use 3rd party MIDI controllers? I'm no pro when it comes to MIDI, so if that can't be done, I apologize in advance for my ignorance.

I agree with a lot of people saying that the production for better features takes too long. We are all waiting! I agree with some comments that sample players are not good enough. They should be able to play a whole track and dj with them. There is no mention about the Bridge? That should be there too.

Anyway for Serato and Itch, in the library can you put a play count and a ratings section. I'd like to rate the tracks like you can in iTunes etc. Also its good to know which tracks i play the most.

If it can be done thanks :)

Serato would love to have that much influence ;)

Honestly I'd just be happy with a more stable version of ITCH. I mean the problems that people have been complaining about with glitches and such is crazy...

I am enjoying the posts in this section very much...I am learning a lot. Thank you guys. As for DjSyndic8 it might be useful to check out the support section for how to install multiple versions of ITCH. It will (of course) take up some hard disk space but you will always have access to the most basic ITCH while the newest version (and all of its features). Hope that helps and hope to find more positive subjects here until 2.0 is released.

I have both 1.5 and 1.7.1 installed on my pc. and will install 2.0 and have all 3 when the time comes. i have 1.5 and 1.7 installers on a usb stick jus incase if i ever have to reistall my OS.

serato.com

i kno how to install multiply itch.

I gathered that from your post ;)

It was for those who do not.......

Just wondering if this will effect the exsisting suggested computer specs??? I just bought a brand new 13" macbook pro with an intel i5 processor. Will my new mac work well with ITCH 2.0?

I have had zero issues w' my 2011 15" i7 Mac, as well as my 2010 15" i5 before it.

I think you'll be okay, but just to be sure, call Guitar Center (or the like) and ask to bring in your laptop to demo the unit before you buy.

sorry, I completely missed where you said w' "2.0"

....disregard post.

There isn't an intel Mac in production that isn't double the specs for ITCH. So ITCH would have to become highly innificcient to make a 2008 Mac or newer to become insufficient.

So I would put that in the highly unlikely but anything is possible collumn. The only thing in the smaller Mac's is the graphics cards are less needy and therefore less advanced. So if video or 4 deck use is your target sweet spot, you may want to consider this with any laptop purchase. Lesser laptops can be problematic with video or highly intense graphics. So that is where a 15" or 17" Mac maybe better as they have better graphics cards (mist of the time) or a Windows laptop with a premium built in graphics cards... which is where you will start to see why some windows laptops are cheap. They have intel generic graphics cards instead of NVIDIA or ATI graphics cards. Which is what you will want for best performance of audio and video.

If you look at the requirement for Scratch Video Live,or Bridge that may be best direction for your futuristic ITCH machines and requirements. =)

great point dj's! i didn't even recognize the still pics of the 2.0 having 4 decks...they didnt mention it in the vid,maybe this is something for other controllers besides the vci-300....(shrugs)

Does anyone know if the sampler decks will maintain keylock on tracks from the main decks they are dragged from? I figured it was a given they would but just learned keylock is lost on Traktor 2's sampler deck feature (crazy I know).

Thanks guys...i think i will be alright with the i5 @ 4gb ram for now. if i need the additional 4gb i will add it on at a later date. so far the computer is 2 weeks old from the apple store and i have been running ITCH 1.7 w/ my NS7 smoothly for the past two weeks!!!

MAC and 1.7.1 run perfectly together, despite all reports of drop outs. Many have proven if you reinstall the OS or are coming in on a new MAC, the drop outs disappear or never show up.

It just goes to show ALL computers need maintenance from time to time. Just like CD needed wiped off, CD players needed lens cleaners, and turn tables needed new needles. Computers sometimes need a fresh OS installation. :)

I am sure we are going to LOVE ITCH 2.0!

I am very interested to see if they have the 4 decks on the left and 4 wave forms on the right layout built it. You would have LOTS of room still for the library and it will be very "sequencer-esk" in terms of the track stacking of the decks and wave forms.

What I like about the 4 Deck with ITCH 1.7.1 is that I still have almost 1/2 of the screeen dedicated to my library. In the screen shot it looks like 2/3 of the screen is taken up by the decks... and only 1/3 of the library is visible. Perhaps they took the screen shot on a smaller screen. :)

Right, but will the KEY LOCK be synced as well (because apparently they are not on TSP2)? Seems to me the sampler banks are virtually useless without both BPM sync AND key lock sync.

I've been a faithful ITCH/SERATO user for 3 years and i alway was a proud user. I told people its better than TRAKTOR your biggest competitor. But today i just tested TRAKTOR. The sound is way more punchy and clearer. There is no latency. And there is more i could go on about. I think ITCH/SERATO should have internal mixing so you don't have to use a controller but to mix just from laptop and using a mouse. This is great for quickly finding out what tracks go together without pulling out and hooking up a controller.

I am waiting for big improvements on the new release update of ITCH AND SERATO. If not i will convert to TRAKTOR. Just like i went from PC to Mac. and i will convert every dj to Traktor.

I notice everyone is complaining in your forums over the years and giving advice but the production is still too slow.

WAKE UP! Stop doing whatever is interrupting your time to improve ITCH and SERATO. Or get a bigger team. Do what ever it takes!

If one thing is clear to me now, it's that the choice between Traktor and ITCH is purely personal. We all need the comparisons here for general knowledge and future decisions but the bottom line is personal preference...just like musical genre. When one says that their software has no latency in comparison to Serato and Serato including ITCH is essentially known for no latency, the deciding factor has to be something else. I love ITCH and yes, I have had issues in the past, got them resolved and couldn't be happier. I am so pleased with ITCH in fact that I don't have to put anyone else's choices down. I hope that all serious DJ's are happy with their gear and I hope I get to hear them all because when you love Old School R&B, Hip Hop, Funky (Soulful) House...disco style high hats and people going crazy on the dance floor...that is what it's all about. (and Man, there ain't nothing like it).

NS7 will work with Traktor and VDJ but as many have stated, the platteres do not work work really as well as they do with ITCH.

They other thing I have learned is NI users and NI themselves at no where near near help you Serato and it's user base. You are expected to be far more technically savy in NI and VDJ... for instance building and tweaking your MIDI map. I have been in IT for years and even though I have done programming before. However I was trained to understand andbwork in certain technologies. With the MIDI mapping you sorta have to learn on your own and unless you went to school as a sound engineer, it's going to be a headache.

So something for everyone to think about... SERATO ITCH takes this need out of the equation.

I think we all have to keep in mind here that Serato does one thing well here and that simply put is "IT WORKS". Yes i'm a little disappointed like most of you that we've waited so long for a sampler to be built into Itch. But if a remember it took Serato a long time to include the sampler in Scratch Live. We have to remember that the backed is a little different between the two products and they can't just simply write a sampler in and hope it works. The reason why i've been a loyal scratchlive and itch customer is because it's very stable, and clean interface. Yes there's other good products out there but not as simple and clean as ScratchLive and Itch not to mention the best stability in my opinion thus far. However to the guys at Serato you have to at least keep Itch up to date with Scratchlive in a more timely fashion. Scratchlive had a sampler for eeons now and your just incorporating it into Itch. I think you need to work a little faster with your keeping your best products somewhat on par with each other. Anyway that is my little input on this topic. I'm still glad we are getting a sampler though. FINALLY!!!

Does anyone else here think sampler decks are virtually useless unless they bot BPM sync AND key lock sync? Still can't believe TSP2's sampler decks don't match key lock.

With all due respect. I can use vocal drops without concern for key or beat syncing. A classic example is Rob Base "It Takes Two". In transition it sounds like.... ( I wanna rock right now.....I wanna rock right now....I wanna rock, I wanna rock...I, I, I wanna rock right now). By having instantaneous on with a touch of a button and not having to use one of two precious decks I can bring in this song with style, excitement and my own interpretation of the beat. No sync needed.

Not necessarily. This could all be the same version and the tabs are driven by the functionality provided by the attached hardware and maybe even the state of switches/buttons (Thru, Mic input, etc...). It's also clear that the GUI in the new version is much more configurable than in the past. I would expect you to be able to completely disable/enable certain tabs based on what you want to use.

The fourth Video tab could also be driven by installation of a new version of the Video SL plugin. As this has always been a separate plugin for SSL I don't see why it would be provided for free when the functionality becomes available in Itch. so I wouldn't necessarily consider any of this to be indicative of multiple versions of the Itch software.

Why do you guys complaine so much. Itch is like a satalite team where there stuff is what everybody buys. And scratchlive is a factory team and all there parts are one off and you,cant buy. And the only way to get factory gear is to be good at it.( this is how supercross is)
But with this all you have to do is either switch to scratchlive and get the features you want. All yall that want the bridge will most likely not use it. And if you start from scratch the ableton will be $799 full and $499 upgrade plus apc40 $299 or apc 20 $199. I have everything serato has to offer. Bridge,vsl, apc40/20 and I only use vsl. And also vsl plugin is $199. Itch wont progress higher then scratchlive but will be close but no close enoght. There probley working on both upgrades and vsl (aint had a upgrade since v1.2) and most went to m.e. Mac only. Just like scratchlive I bet pc was the hold up. And pc and vsl dont work right together. So if you wanna do video with itch you better get a macbook pro. And add $2000+ to those other prices. Then most will complain about why they cant get it to work with a pc. Go visit us in the video sl discussion and see what we go thru and talk about in vsl b4 asking for it in itch. Alot asked for bridge and dont use it. Im one. Cuz I need a faster mac to run bridge and vsl. And thats $2500 more for another macbook pro. Then you need to join video pools and buy editing programs like fcp. So I say do your home work b4 you ask for these costly upgrades and cant afford it. Cuz its very costly. Not to mention if you go mobile now you need to add about $5000 + to that. I have 2x50 plasma's. global truss plasma tv stands, cables, splitters, 50" dual plasma anvil case. And to be real I didnt think I had to step up like this. I still have my 2x42" plasma's that from a distance you cant see that good so I got the 50" plus I have a projector and 100" screen. So ask your self can you afford to do that cuz most that got vsl dont.

As a recent traktor convert who never used all the functionality it offered...what's wrong with just mixing two records together and using loops and effects? This is what most professional DJs do...focus on the music and not the software is my 2 cents on the matter...

e enoght.

I believe itch will surpass SSL because turntables are no longer being manufactured by TECHNIC's The majority of manufacturers are switching to a controller based system. eventually in order to remain competitive SERATO will have to dethrone SSL as the (factory team) because the market will demand it. I think that 2.0 will be the beginnings of this transition toward making itch just as capable as SSL.

turntables last sooo long so don't count on that happening soon (plus what about CDJs)...why do think traktor did not just release the S4 only? The came out with NEW audio interfaces as well

Also itch and SSL will probably share plugins and features which is why they re-wrote the code for itch...to make it easier to port over and old and new features...

so many of us using DVS's still...so don't count on it

just the serato setup pic thread...

10 years ago Big name DJs were still carting around Vinyl. Now they are all carrying around CDs and demanding CDJs or memory sticks and demanding CDJ2000's. I dont think it is a stretch to think in 10 years the up and coming DJs of today will be using laptops and all in one solutions. The total cost of ownership is cheaper, you can have many solutions for many varieties of creative sets, and all the nah sayers of "real djs use CDs" will be out of the picture.

I really think the era of clubs and venues providing $10k in mixing equipment will be a welcome exist for club owners and promoters everywhere.

All in One - 2020!

Technology follows the DJ, I'm sure controllers will evolve to something else. It's cheaper to manufacture software and controllers.

I won't have a problem if they keep the turntable "feel" ;)

amen! bro dj!

tick tock tick tock......time is running out

I just got the pioneer ddj s1, with all the new features in the software itch 2.0 will my controller work good with the new itch 2.0, this controller was made so that i wouldnt have to touch my key board, now will i for all the new features in itch 2.0???????????????????

I'm so ready for this sampler addition...It will make so many opportunities available to throw that extra snip-it in. Night and Day function is gonna be good too! I played at daytime gigs before and wished I had that feature. The new display modes are gonna mess with me at first I bet. Got used to my preference I've used everyday since I got Itch. But hopefully will adjust quickly. For the beat sync I could care less b/c I grew up syncing beats with vinyl. I think if you use it- time to time its cool...but I think you should just use the wave display and learn how to read the music that way! Or even use you headphones and ears! Beat Sync was a great perk but lets face it in the professional world if you can only dj with that and you get asked to dj somewhere one night and they dont have itch or sync you will be screwed. You cant always take your equipment to some of these clubs and events. Learn to be versatile it will go a long way as a DJ. Just my 2 cents.
To all the Traktor vs Serato posts...If you like Tracktor buy a Tractor compatible controller and the program. If you like Serato Itch buy a compatible controller and get Itch software. Its all on what you like personally and what you feel comfortable with. We didnt have this years ago so you have to remember that technology is going to keep advancing but a good Dj will control his/her crowd with what ever they have weather it be belt driven turn tables...direct drives...cdjs...mp3 controllers...heck even a kazoo! Its all about your energy you bring to the device/program you use.
As for the release date I'm still wondering the same thing all my other fello serato itch owners....WHEN? How much longer is our wait....its April 14th....I can't wait! Let's do this!

My guess with the new features there will be a clever mapping to trigger samples off the hot cue point buttons or something. Like pressing both shift buttons will enable the hot cues to work 1-10 (left to right) with the sampler 1-6.

A special piece of hardware would be helpful in some cases. But I think units like the new Twitch unit has the adequate amount of cue buttons to work intuitively. It is think other controllers may be a stretch.

A major problem with Serato Scratch Live is that it does not CUE up on the beat and hold it there while you tap the CUE button on a Pioneer cdj using Internal Mode? The ITCH does it perfectly.
What i mean is that in Serato when you look at the waveform and you line it up on the first beat (or any beat), then when you press CUE it does not CUE directly on the beat it slightly goes off the beat and the waveform.

Also another problem is after you find the correct bpm when you press play on a Pioneer cdj to go in with the other track it does not go strait away in the right speed with the other track! What it does is it goes after you press play but you need to nudge the speed up a bit to push it into time. Like a direct drive turntable. It would be better if it reacts spontaneously in the right speed. Like a Pioneer cdj and Traktor Scratch Pro.

This is so so important! This has to be fixed to perfection on the new update.

Grammer mistake.... I said Internal Mode, I meant Absolute Mode

I'm excited for SERATO ITCH 2.0 and the new features to bad that we ha to wait to long

I'm excited for the 2.0 its been a long time coming even though i just bought a sp 404 sx sampler but its all good i'm praying that we will get the Beta before the Q3 but hopefully everything works well no glitches and stuff thx guys much luv Jah Bless

lol

Im exicited for the new update on itch 2.0 but i think serato is giving more attention to scratch live and they are living us bihind. I being expecting this update since i got my ns7 a year ago and nothing happen is being a long way to get someting better like scratch live i've being seen update on scrath live that are extuning but we still stock in the same cra*. Serato please stop the way and please let see the beta version for us to see the progress that you are talking about.

ditto.

On top of it, it is another "poor ITCH" vs "saint SSL" comment. ITCH has had releases and added features in the past 2 years. If everyone wants SSL, then buy the SSL hardware, a DMC2, and a Mixer. Yes, I understand why ITCH and its all in One solutions. But I knew the features with ITCH and the timelines to enhance would be on Serato's terms not mine.

Here is another way to look at it:
Number of SSL devices: 5
Numbers of ITCH devices: 8 (not counting the 2 FX add ons, but counting the NS6 and Twitch which will be out in a couple of months.)

This is an excellent sign they are trying to grow the user base and mature the software. One thing you learn when you work and IT and have to do external partner selection (ie vendors) is you look at the companies financial soundness. Lets face reality: the devices are what make the money, not updates. So the fact they are working on new controllers is a sign they are focused on creating a vast user base for ITCH. For us that means ITCH and Serato will be around a LONG time and the solution you currently own will constantly mature.

If you would rather they just focus on updates and not controllers... then I question if you are a "business DJ" or a "bedroom DJ." Any true business DJ would understand this and encourage Serato to draw more users to ITCH via new controllers. Because that is what pays for our fantastic ITCH developers to give us our FREE updates.

the controller aint nothing with out the software. if the controllers are great and the program is crap what do you really have CHAD.

it aint like the controller are compatible with other software

yes they are. videos all over the net with the Xone DX working with Traktor, Ableton, etc... NS7 and VCI300 too + VDJ. They just dont work as great with ITCH. So it shows you to what lengths Serato and the OEMs go to in order to go the extra mile to make them work great... and not just good.

The hardware and software does everything the side of the box said, correct? My Xone DX rocks for me. It does everything I need it to do to entertain a crowd. If I get new features great. But I still got what I paid for and so did you and everyone else who bought a ITCH controller.

The fact Serato provides free updates is very unique to the industry, as I pointed out above. Everyone charges for updates!

At this point I could careless about paying for updates. I want/NEED stuff to be proper and correct, regardless of cost. Get things done and I'll GLADLY pay.

Chad that is what you think but i do not feel the same. Your happy good but i am not. I don't see all happy thought's posted on hear so that must mean that others might disagree with what you have stated(trying to speak for the entire world of serato users) WHAT IS GOOD FOR ONE AINT ALL THE TIME GOOD FOR EVERYONE ELES.

It is not an opinion. It is a fact. All that is promised is what is on the side of the box when you purchase the controller. Serato also commits to free updates, but do not state how frequent or what sort of features will be in the updates.

serato.com

It is all very clear what you are getting when you buy Serato ITCH compatible controller. If you bought the controller with the intent to use ITCH knowing you would not be happy until an update delivered your features X, Y, and Z, that is not the fault of Serato. That is a business decision you made for your gear. If you did not try out the controller with in the return period where you bought it, you are the victim of your own decisions.

If you bought a CDJ1000 and expected it to play DVDs, would you keep it, constantly writing in the Pioneer forums that the CD player is crap and useless until it can play DVDs?

I am sorry, but you have been a member for how long? Your profile shows 4 threads you have posted to... all of them hating Serato and ITCH 2.0. You are also posting about issues that if properly researched, would be quite obvious before purchasing. You either have a very clear objective; or you have no idea how the world commerce and business practices operate.

Okay,

Serato users.... I am getting sick of this threats....

We will continue paying for their products and they will continue making money on us....

Today... i had a Gid with my ns7 Great party.... just missing the other little features.... Hopelly one day they will come out...

When they come out we will still want more.

Absolutely! It's how the world works. It's called supply and demand!

Agree, the word updates should have been typed Updates..... LOL....

This looks like a substantial push in the right direction for Itch. I bought a Xone:DX specifically so I could try it but still comfortably use Traktor and found v1.7 a little disappointing. Most of the things I like about TPro2 seem to be present in this revision and then some.

Sure, it may lack some of the flexibility that alternatives afford but still - could be kind of cool to try out.

serato has glitches they didnt post on the box or producT or you dont think there are alot of glitches in the SOFTWARE CHAD. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME FREE SING IT GO CRAZY FROM TIME TO TIME I ONLY RUN SERATO ITCH FROM MY MAC BOOK PRO LOOOK THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE SOFT WARE I AINT JUST MAKING IT UP THERE ARE ALOT OF OTHERE THAT THINK THIS TO LOOK AT THE FORUM IF YOU DONT BELEAVE ME CHAD

It's "seen", not "sing"........and have you ever heard of a comma, or a period. I really hope English is not your first language, because if it is, then the future of this world is fucked!

Oh shit, after reading it again, I see now that you meant to say "freezing"......damn, that's even worse!

dj5fifty,

I wish I could help you but there are a few issues. 1) you caps everything, which just makes is seem like you are yelling at me, a fellow user, as a mechanism to vent. 2) the translation or use of english is poor, so hard to understand you issues, and 3) when I look at your threads in your profile I see no trouble tickets opened to understand YOUR specific issue(s).

I also feel the need to point out that EVERY DJ SOFTWARE has issues in their forums. Serato is not exclusive in that club. The difference though is the support you get from Serato to resolve those issues. Thus far according to your profile, you have not posted a single ticket. If you look at my profile, you will see plenty of threads and help posts I have started or participated in. I have received excellent service from Serato and its users to understand how a function works, or what I may need to do differently. In comparison to VDJ and Traktor support mechanisms, Serato has by far been the best. All you have to do is reach out and try.

There is no such thing as a technology that is not completely fool or tamper proof.

I hear you Chad. Because I follow this (hoping to get the word that 2.0 is out) I am able to appreciate the patience you've shown in the previous reply. I have had issues and yes, had them resolved through making a proper request. This helps me to enjoy the software. Yes, other companies offer e same type support but the level of assistance seems greater to me here. What this means is I want to work with ITCH (my personal choice) and that is still the bottom line. People prefer different apps with different features. If designers decided to list all of the possible problems (or even just the areas that could be problems) the packaging would cost more than the contents.
I wonder how many single features (like sync) were discovered when someone was trying to resolve a completely different issue. Yet people complain that Serato has dropped the ball on basics. If those folks are playing to a crowd and mix goes train wreck, does it help to accuse the DJ of ineptitude or false advertising? I think not.
Reading through all of the gripes is difficult but necessary to get me to the gig prepared. I admire your patience and understanding.

^ Love it when people make these posts bashing others spelling and grammar, and are guilty of the same exact thing.

^Lol @ typing swag

Okay, topic is about Serato ITCH 2.0 preview video. I cant wait to see if there are more teasers around the corner. I am sooo curious about seeing the 4 deck skins/UI layouts with different day and night settings.

One of the things I really like about ITCH 1.7.1 is even with 4 x decks x waveforms, I still have about 1/2 the screen dedicated to the library. In Traktor, you only get like 1/5th of the screen when displaying all 4 decks. So I hope with the new layouts, they protect the lean 4 deck layout. :)

DJ = singular
DJs = plural
DJ's = singular possessive
DJs' = plural possessive

:facepalm:

post links to current problems. Did not know there where unresolved problems since itch runs flawlesss on my Mac 2.26 intel dual core and on my mac 2.66 dual core...very interested can someone post links to CURRENT problems?

guess so... i will search on my own...maybe there is something i did not notice?

www.merriam-webster.com

www.merriam-webster.com

www.merriam-webster.com

www.merriam-webster.com

:facepalm: lol X2

LOL

will this update work with my ns7? will i need to purchase another piece of hardware to control the samples?

Its pretty clear the only fact is that people are definitely having stability issues with itch. Me included. I see that your a strong advocate of serato in general as am I. I've (been using sl for 4+ yrs now) and in that 4 yrs I've had not one hiccup on my optimized Toshiba. Yet on the same machine while using itch and 2 V7's its no dice...usb dropouts, freezing, auto firmware update screens...
When i decided to try out itch/V7 platform the fact that it said serato on the side of the box that u mentioned led me to believe stability would be paramount based on the brand alone. This has not been the case and for that as a paying consumer I am not impressed....BTW Im deff not the only one...
serato.com
Please dont tell me to open a help thread.

That whole point was around saying the system is unusable because of lack of features. It has nothing to do with technical difficulties.

I also want to point out that 50 or even 100 people having issues when sales are in the thousands of even hundreds of thousands does not make it failed product. We just need to to get that that successes because they are busy enjoying the product. =)

I don't mean anything disrespect or down play anyone's issue. But I took what I could read and understand in the post as complaints about lack lack feature making making the product unusable. Therefore my point being if it didn't have that feature when you bought it and knew you wouldn't use without, then that is the fault of the consumer.

it requires more processing because itch does internal mixing while scratchlive does external mixing via you REAL mixer. So yeah it does take more juice. More stuff going on inside the computer means heavier load

I hope ITCH 2.0 addresses the issues everyone is wanting. As long as folks are actively engaging Serato and/or the Hardware manufacturer on those issues, I am sure they will do their best to see they are addressed.

What I am afraid of is all these users waiting on ITCH 2.0 are going to be very disappointed to find out the issue runs deeper than ITCH itself. It was the selection they made in the laptop/desktop to do the job required. I read the thread shared above from top to bottom. What I read was a common theme I have seen among newer/rookie laptop based DJs. They do not have the skill to choose the proper machine for the job, nor do they really know how to maintain its OS, drivers, or other components.

This isnt a MAC vs PC point. I have had Windows machines that were lower end and ran DJ software perfectly fine. However I found I had to do ALOT of maintenance and be very sparing in the use of the DJ software (in this case, VDJ.) When I try to show non technical laptop DJ's how to perform these maintenance steps, I have to give them a manual with screen shots and steps. Then I have to make them do it repeatedly. If they do something wrong, they have no idea how to get back on track. I must step in and fix the issue for them. If they have to reload the OS or what not... again, I must help them.

Maybe it is just I am the safety net always there to help them. But it is clear that is VERY different being a new DJ in this day and age vs when you just bought 2 CD players and a mixer. Your biggest learning curve was learning how to beat match. Now, you have to be able to maintain a computer system. As these all in one packages do more and more, it means the computers are going to have to be more and more PRO grade and less and less "multi purpose" machines.

amen ^^^^

QFT!!!!

Has anybody seen ITCH 1.8.0? I saw it somewhere but can't get it. I'm waiting for 2.0 to hurry up and come out.

Here you go - serato.com

FIXED

So in conclusion itch is flawless and anyone with problems is just retarded thanks for clearing that up!

Soooo......the stated minimum specs listed on the box of my v7's was wrong it shouldve stated I need a PRO GRADE computer or a mac. Now its all making sense!
Back to good ol' trusty scratchlive+technics.....
damn shame the v7's are sick!

smh at the level of delusion in this thread....done tracking

I am not calling anyone stupid or retarded. If you use a Windows laptop with Vista or XP, you can obtain a Windows Experience Index (WEI) rating. I know in my own experience, I would check this score on demo machines in the stores (like Best Buy) or as soon as I got a new machine. I saw early on a signifigant trend related to issues with audio applications and low scoring machines. They tend to not handle video and audio nearly as well as higher scoring machines.

windows.microsoft.com

Unforunately, the industry really only widely documents a machine's processor clock type and speed, memory, video and hard drive. The most critical for all external audio interfaces (including ITCH controllers) is the USB architecture, which is only disclosed in terms of the version it supports, 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, and newer versions. The only true way to see its true efficiency is to use the WEI and DPC Latency Checker: www.thesycon.de

I can not emphyse how much easier my DJ gear testing and operation went once I started using this tool to determine if the laptop really would handle my use. This is a HUGE lesson learned on my part, and I am passing it on to anyone it may help in the future. There is no equivelant on the MAC side, but then again you only have 3-4 models to choose from, but all use the same USB architecture. So fewer unknowns left to chance from that respect.

I also feel I should add... I would buy a new laptop and find even with nothing running, not even my DJ software, the DPC Latency Checker would measure latency that would cause audio issues. If you have a laptop with this characteristic, then there is nothing Serato, NI, or any other DJ software company can do for you.

Your machine simply is not built to handle this type of application.

windows OS is what is flawed...not the PC hardware. Apple should make OSX compatible with PC's...then everyone would be happy

not exactly, part of the reason why Apple has been very successful with Video and Audio application is because they ensure the repeatable hardware is top notch. Then they reproduce that same base for each model, only changing the screen size, processor, memory, and hard drive size incrementally. The OS only has to be modified to support an annual rollout of approx 5 models of MacBooks, 4 models of iMACs, and 2 models of Mac Pro.

The Windows Laptop and Desktop manufacturers are looking to fill the price undercut market, which means they have to deliver a much more cost effective product. in order to do this, they must use cheaper parts and spend less time on drivers.

There are "hack-in-tosh" which is cracking OS X to run with ala cart hardware, which means cheaper hardware. It is illegal because I believe the "rights of use" for OS X is only on Apple hardware.

The only two Windows centric OEM's I have had good experiences with from a DJ perspective are Asus and HP. I had a Sony Vaio for 4 months. Same DJ Gear. Same DJ Software version (not Serato), just a different laptop. Completely would freeze (repeatedly - Audio and Video both) 2-4 songs into my set, but NEVER when I was at home. I was a complete nut job trying to figure out why this $800 laptop could not do the job my $500 HP did. I would consider that an upgrade, after all. Unfortunately a friend of mine had a Sony Vaio and equally had a bad experience. Power cable connected... audio popping and distortion. Disconnect Power cable... smooth audio. Replaced power cable and everything was fine. Go figure.

I am speaking from experience when I say, the laptop is everything!

good info ^^^

Fuck a Hackintosh....I tried it, then I bought a Mac!

DJSyndic8, I looked at your threads and dont see a thread you have started related to your drop outs. Can you help me find it? I could help you. I have a deep experience in helping fellow DJs locally as well as myself with audio/dropout issues on all 3 major DJ software platforms. There are very many universal ways to tackle them, especially windows machines.

Feel free to message me, and/or open a new NS7 issue for yourself. More than happy to help. There may be other applications that may start out drop out free, however once you get more comfortable with the new setup you start using more and more features. This taxes your system and they (dropouts) could easily return. So I would not recommend start throwing money around on new anything until you have absolutely certainty your computer is latency free.

Its your money and business man. If your heart and brain is saying sell, then you gotta listen to that. However my advise and experience says, look under the hood before you decide to put all new tires on. If the engine blows, new tires wont do you any good at all. :)

You are joking, right?

Update about Bridge please.

Will it work with my Vestax VCI-300 MKII controller or will I need to upgrade it?

This version have support for Numark V7 4 decks?

Conecting two Denon DJ DN-HC5000 can be interesting !!!

If i am understanding this correctly, i too had the same problem. Depending on what hardware you use.. but it has to do with the way laptops are grounded and their hard drives. The noise you are hearing is coming from those to things themselves. The easiest way i found to COMPLETELY eliminate the noise without buying some outrageously priced sound card, was going to radio shack and buying something called an "Ground Loop Isolator. " They were fantastically, and i highly recommend getting one for an easy fix to this problem. Heres a link to where i bought mine www.radioshack.com
I hope this helped you out! Lemme know if this helped!

I actually have used those for years. =) in both cases above they were used. It was well beyond the ground loop issue. The freezing was looked at as the Sony's having a very bloated Windows 7 OS but I tried a clean W7 retail installation and it didn't fix. That laptop just did not want to be used for DJ purposes. The power cord issue I think was left accidentially at an outdoor event and got rained on.... that is/was my theory.

But the GLI cables are for sure a must have!

Ohh okay, i see what your saying. Well im glad i felt like i at least made sense to someone : ) hahaha! And yes, those cables are a must for ANYONE.

is the ns7 compatible with traktor??? if its worth trying i will get it.. itch is ok and vdj is a dissapointment

If you Google search "NS7 traktor" or "NS7 VDJ" you will find all sorts of videos, reviews, and forum posts where users have tried to use the NS7 with VDJ or Traktor. The bottom line is buttons will map just fine; however the platters are a whole other story. They do not work as fluid and reliably as so with ITCH.

If you choose the NS7 because of the platters, you may find you are "on your own" when it comes to finding the right mappings for other DJ software. Most have reported "iffy" results in making the platters respond reliably.

It appears based on initial resent search results, that has not changed in over two years. But I did not dig too deep to be honest. However my feeling is if you are going to pay over $1k for an all in one unit, and then have to pay $200(Traktor Pro) $300(VDJ) to use your personal choice of software, I would want it to work BETTER than the included ITCH software.

Just my $.02

cant wait to see how it works

@ DJ Chad, you are 100% correct. I have VDJ7 Pro and my buddy has Serato. I love the functionality of the platters w/Serato but I feel limited with the lack of mapping of the buttons. He loves the mapping, video, effects, virsitality and the visuals of VDJ but not too fond of the platter functions. It just depends on your taste and style of mixing. As far as pricing goes...It's not much of a difference if you think about it. With Serato you need decks/controllers or turntables and a Rane. With VDJ you need the software, decks/controllers or tables. They both are great, but we got our issues also. None of these programs are perfect. I think it just depends on your preference. That being said, 2.0 looks nice. I don't know if it's gonna be worth the wait, but I see some nice progressions for Serato too be so young!! ;)

I was talking mainly if you buy a NS7, it will come with ITCH. If you don't own a license for VDJ or Traktor, then it's extra cash out of pocket.

But absolutely... everyone has their thing. =)

there's no beta for this?

can itch 2.0 has 4 decks, if i use it with my 2 Numark V7 on one laptop?

Selecta500: Not yet.

DJ Viscious: We're all hoping for that, but no they have not announced any 4 deck compatibility with any hardware except the Xone. I'm also hoping my V7's will be capable of 4 deck support in the future.

Am I the only dj that could care less about 4 deck support? What am I missing? What are you guys with hopes and wishes for 4 decks going to be doing thats gonna require 4 decks but cant be done with loops and the sp-6 sampler? Someone show me an example of a dj thats really pushing the envelope and is on 4 decks. (and I dont wanna see a richie hawtin minimal tech set.)

Im thinking Ima need 4 arms before Ima need 4 decks.
nm

NO Video, are we in the 90's F##@k this i'am selling my ddj-s1 and going back to virtuald dj serato standar my A.. THIS IS 2011!!!!

From Serato Above: Brigid (4/6/2011 @ 4:26pm)


In other words it takes more than just a software update for you to do Video! If you look at the Video SL, it requires a new piece of hardware with multiple outputs so you can route the video output for booth and main. Most Laptops and Desktops these days only have 1 Video output.

serato.com

Two friends have a great Video setup in town and use Video SL. They have two 22" LCD monitors they take with them everywhere to have the plug in, monitor, and main outputs. That way they still have real estate on their laptop for the actual library and beat matching.

I'm hoping for it, but I'm not concerned, like you said, things can be accomplished with other means. What I am hell-bent on getting released is Bridge support, which could accomplish everything the SP-6 sample player could, +Midi mapping capability since Ableton can be Midi-mapped with any controller on the market. However, the SP-6 sample player would be free and Ableton's cheapest Bridge-compatible version is over $400, but I have that and an APC40 so, I'm actually quite sad that all we get so far is the SP-6. Also, so many DJ's are concerned with Video, they really should have researched what they were buying before buying ITCH. There are plenty of software available for that.

(sp-6 sample player ) come on one feature at a time minimizes bugs and problems

I agree with you. They should have done the one feature that they already stated was coming soon and postponed the sp6 till later then.

You Guys Should Make It Possible To Use Two V7's to contol 4 channels?

HOLY CRAP?!?!?! $300 for a newly re-designed Final Cut Pro?!?! COUNT ME IN!!!
4k resolution, and guess what serato itch no video support #$@@#$$

Yeah, how do you think a video remix it's made and then used in programs like virtual dj?

when you can download itch 2

We been waiting for about 2 years!

means to be forgotten that to happen soon

Really! a program that takes a half an hou to render a 2 minute full HD video 1080p?
If you haven't try final cut pro, you don't know what you been missing.

Sorry! i wasn't trying to offend you. If you ever buy a mac you gotta try final cut pro, trust me you wold never go back to vegas again.

Does itch allow you to record? I haven't seen anything about the ability to record

yes

Download the manual for the controller (in download section) you're interested in and you will even learn how its done.

I'm interested if anyone has itch 2.0 software can I have it isprati ?????

I'm interested if anyone has itch 2.0 software can you send it ?????

ок

this should be out now virtual dj is leading we need to catch up fast cause they are evolving as we speak

u guys should put this program out now

VDJ has had many of the features everyone has been requesting of ITCH since Cue/VDJ 5.2, which was way before ITCH even came out. The difference is Serato delivers these features in a way that is plug and play, with an instant ready work flow that is reliable, and provides professional and respectful support. Which means it takes longer than just developing the software. They ensure the hardware that uses the software works 100% as well and there are ways they can help users easily detect issues with their specific system.

Serato needs to keep doing what and how they have been doing it... sure and steady!

well what i have notice is that itch dj users having issues with the volume gain alot especially with good mp3 and crappy ones and thats what makes virtual dj much smoother in clubs etc etc alot when u load the same track on the next deck the volume raises higher and thats not good what vdj does is calculate the same volume of the next deck to keep the volume same cause not all mp3s are gonna give the same result when u play it

serato scratch is more professional for mp3s and auto volume gain well for the most part so itch need to catch up to that.

love the software but there is always more room for improvement been a vdj user for 10 years also pcdj so i know what i'm talking about and i have to say i agree with you dj chad72 it is quick response but vdj now has that feature with ns7 and v7

If you buy a controller that comes whit itch, you dont' have other option but to learn itch, When you buy VDJ its cause you love the program, and you are going to use it whit any controller that you like, if you buy a new car and you don't like the rims you have the option to change them, that makes sense to me.

i used VDJ. I bought any controller I liked. It worked, sort of. I used auto gain, sort of. It would not be perfect and I would have make minor tweaks with the gain. For some reason or another the gain knob would end up more and more out of sync with the "soft gain" in the VDJ software. Sometimes by the end of the night, I would not have any "gain" left on the hardware controller, but I would have plenty according to the software.

I have DJ friends still using VDJ, and they never learned to manually control volume with a mixer/cd players. Auto Gain on VDJ for them is a big fail 50% of the time.

Just personally, I think auto gain and library normalization is a somewhat of a myth, esp for EDM DJs that have a large variety of music. Serato ITCH has done pretty well. What I like about it is, if it is right... I dont spend 1/2 my time between songs trying to trick the software into giving me more gain.

Will Itch 2 work with my VCI300 and still have the extra features?

probably all except 4 deck control

Wats take itch 2.0 so long been waitin

how do or can you remove vocals using itch?

Where is fast-access CUE (point) ???
I do not see it on this video (((

the numark V7 will support up to 4 decks in version 2.0 of itch?

Does a new ITCH mixer controller make sense with ITCH 2.0 ? A kind of Rane ttm 57 or DDJ T1 for ITCH? for my V7s, I would definetly love a itch mixer with 2 ethernet connections (=> 4 decks support), sp6 triggers, recording capabilities, HID crossfader for video sl, MIDI mode for other DVS (SSL...etc)

Please NUMARK realizes my dream !!!!!

OH MY GOD, I just realize that NUMARK started this project with the X7 mixer !!!

Watchwww.youtube.com

This mixer has not been released maybe because of Serato certification...but I hope it will come back in the business !!!

But I would expect a thinner mixer, no need extra FX or digital screen...

This looks like something that SHOULD give the V7s 4 deck control within Itch if not by two V7s atleast by hooking up 4 V7s

The V7's are some of the best controllers on the market, Paired with a capable mixer allowing 4 deck control with midi mapping, effects and a great crossfader is an S4 killer.

+10000000000000

will there be an Itch 2.0 sighting at the Mutek Workshops next week?

when is this 2.0 coming out ?

As I understand it, 3rd quarter will be within the months of July through September....so at least we'll be testing the Public Beta during what remains of the Summer.

Well, I guess I've got no choice but to buy Virtual DJ and use my VCI-300 with it. I've been itching (pun intended) to do some video mixing and they've had it on the table for quite some time, now. Not to mention several other nice features I've learned to work in the demo...

... I really feel screwed on my decision to buy the VCI-300, however. I'm primarily a windows user, and for some reason, your VCI-300 wants to goto war with my Mbox2, and when I have both installed, the mbox will eventually win and render itch inoperable. I tried one of the "fixes" of manually mapping the drivers to a folder and telling windows to look there, but it's not a real solution and the problem still tends to come back. Works fine on my mac, but my laptop cannot run OSX (well, it has GMA4500 which means no qe/ci, which means it's pointless to run osx).

Nice to know that you guys can charge nearly $1000 for a product, and leave the customer with nothing more than a glimmering hope that you will eventually find the time to release an update for something promised long before the purchase was even made.

Sorry I spent money on a serato product. I'll do my best not to make that mistake ever again.

VDJ is not as cheap as you might think. You cant compare lower end controllers that you can use with VDJ because Serato only chooses higher end professional grade manufacturers. If you bought the newer VCI100 for $500 and Audio4DJ for $200, you would be somewhat comparable to the VCI300 setup, in terms of ins/outs + controls. You only have a LE version of Traktor. It would be $130 to upgrade to Traktor Pro or $400 for VDJ. That is $830 - $1100. You can also cheaply get to VDJ7.0 by buying a retail version of Numark Cue on Amazon for $200. You can then upgrade to Cue 7.0 for free or for $50, upgrade to a VDJ 7.0 license. You are still talking $900.

You will have the freedom to set things up however you like with VDJ, but you will find not everything is as "smooth" as you will find with ITCH and its controllers. I came from the VDJ camp after 3-4 years of constant tinkering and working full Saturdays to smooth kinks out myself. ITCH is so much easier pop open out of the box and begin rocking parties.

lastly, if your MBox and VCI300 are conflicting on your Windows setup, that has nothing to do with Vestax, Serato, or DigiDesign. Most likely your Windows machine has limited USB addressing resources and therefore the drivers are constantly trying to share the same address. Given you are not having this issue on MAC, shows this is most likely the case. I feel you because I had the same issue on a lower end HP w/ Window Vista and 7. My solution was to do away with ProTools. They didnt carry the MBox over to their Window 7 update. So I said heck with them. :)

My "Mac" and "PC" are the same machine. I've got USB3 on in, and it also does this on my laptop, regardless of which version of windows I seem to use.

I also already own the VCI-300, and have for quite some time, so we're not looking at total cost anymore; we're looking at cost to get my setup working smoothly as I'd like, versus outright replacing everything.

I didn't mean to come of as saying that Serato's products are "rubbish", but rather that I've been severely let down in my investment. The silver lining is the fact that Serato DOES indeed have very good quality in terms of hardware.... why their software engineers seem to be lagging behind is beyond me. I still notice the occasional stutter and/or hang when using Itch as well (not often, but it does happen) - sometimes the entire application will freeze and I'll have to hope it resumes normality before the song is over (unless I have a cue point already set on the track).

Again, Serato does make good hardware, but as their software always has a feeling of "out of date"-ness, I can't help but feeling like I've made a bad overall investment, especially in terms of being able to handle gigs - I had to turn one down today because I'm more than likely going to have to reinstall windows (without the mbox) to be able to use the VCI as anything other than a passthru (not to mention I don't think asking for the VCI to play at least "as nicely" with an mbox the same way it already does in OSX is really asking too much).

buy.......mac......now........2....cents....4......u.......

i dont understand what you mean by MAC and PC being the same thing. Do you have a MAC made by Apple or a Windows laptop/desktop made by HP, Dell, Sony, etc...

I used VDJ on Windows, which was their flagship platform install. I had 2 lower end Windows based PCs and they would run it great, after about 20 steps to tweak Windows OS. I then bought a Sony that was mid-range. Horrible. Machine would freeze constantly. I turned to MAC and my VDJ setup worked much better. However their user community that develops all the plug ins for effects and such hardly do anything for MAC. So basic operation was more stable... but there was basic playback, loops, and that was about it. Hardly any effects at all, and those that were available were not applicable... how many times can you brake in your set before it gets OLD!?!?! LOL

Ok, let me clarify a few things:
I've been building computers for years. My current "main build" is the following spec:
Intel Core i7-950
ASRock Extreme6 x58
GeForce 9600GT

I run both Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Snow Leopard x64 and trust that they are both setup properly. My laptop(Celeron 900/gma4500), however, is what I gig with. As I work with local artists, sometimes I may go to record a live show. To do so requires I bring my Mbox2; Again, my problem is related to the VCI-300 not working properly with any Windows setup which also has a Digidesign Mbox2 installed. This problem has been mentioned in the forums here before (by members other than myself), as well as a other places, and transcends 32-bit/64-bit. There is a *temporary workaround* that involves moving drivers to a new folder and telling windows to look there, but it doesn't last, and is unreliable at best(*not long ago at a gig I had Itch suddenly lose connection with the VCI, and refused to recognize it. I had to finish the gig via WMC and passthrough*).

So I suppose the easy solution is to replace my laptop with something more OSX compatible, as the problem wouldn't plague me there. However, I don't think that's a very good solution (as it's completely Windows compatible in it's product description).

Not to mention all the waiting for features we haven't, and possibly won't get. My 2 cents.

Am I finally going to be able to use my VCI-300 MKII with my core i5 laptop? Or is there already a solution in place?

timbuh did you start a help request, and also is there a thread that deals with this issue already? Very interested in this issue... I plan to buy my son a windows i5 computer to run with his vci 300 so he can leave my computer alone!

I might just get a mac so my audio doesn't skip anymore

If you go to the general ITCH forum, there is a sticky about 'I' processors with redundant graphics cards. Not sure if itbis you issue, but that is the only thing I have seen.

* 1st Quarter: October 1, 2010 - December 31, 2010
* 2nd Quarter: January 1, 2011 - March 31, 2011
* 3rd Quarter: April 1, 2011 - June 30, 2011
* 4th Quarter: July 1, 2011 - September 30, 2011

Shouldn't it read like this.......



I mean, how can any month of 2010 be included in the quarter scale of 2011?
Especially seeing as how they didn't even announce ITCH 2.0's "actual" release date until
April 5th of this year.

So we should expect the Public Beta to arrive by mid-July, and to have a final
release by the end of September.

its all a hype bout 3rd quarter to get you guys excited they all the same program software is software

Some companies do observe a non calendar year for fiscal purposes; however when a software company communicates a release target quarter it is based on the calendar year, not fiscal year. So 3Q is July 1 to Sept 30th, New Zealand calendar/time.

And, what software company DOESNT hype up their newest features and release? Word of mouth and online media viral penetration are synonymous with 21st Century marketing. They are the cheapest and best methods to get word of your product out.

Lastly, software is software? That makes no sense at all to me. Software companies may use the same programming languages like C++, Java, etc.... and re-use industry coding standards. But 99.9% of the time that is where the similarities end. For instance, if you take the VCI300 or NS7 and use them with ITCH, Traktor, or VDJ... you are doing to get VERY different workflows and performance settings.

If you are talking SSL vs ITCH, that is another completely different animal. Rane owns the rights to SSL. I have no idea if that makes all the code proprietary to Rane, or if Serato has creative/intellectual rights to the design/workflow or engine aspects. But it has been made very clear that they are NOT the same program. :)

Unlikely to get read this far down the chain, but I wanted to chime in with similar feelings of utter disappointment regarding the lack of Bridge integration in ITCH. I'm an avid Ableton user that foolishly bought NS7 decks thinking bridge was just around the corner (as was promised at the time), over a year later and we're told that it won't even be in the release that won't even be here for another 3-5 months!

Please please give your paying customers some clue as to when ITCH will support the Bridge, several Serato people have commented in this thread, and yet nobody mentions the lack of a well-advertised promised feature.

Ultimately this is about communication, or lack of it.

Hellooo Serato???

Please make an announcement regarding ITCH + Bridge, just to put our collective minds at rest.

All the best

PB

They already said they were working on The Bridge for ITCH. The announcement was made. They arent going to further disappoint folks like yourself by telling you a date they cant hit, and then miss it because of their high standard for quality and reliability.

I know it is like Christmas eve every day while you wait. But they KNOW the demand is there.

what the hell are the NS7 owners going to control the sample player with?
WAY TO GO ON DROPPING THE BALL ON THE BRIDGE BTW.

Numark NS6 - $1000
Traktor Kontrol S4 - $899

video video video video . . . fu##k this is for me a deal breaker i would not mint to pay for this , i feel it is disturbing when some people are bitching about some free features , but don't say anithing about the real ones, truly i would rather pay than be without it so pls make it happen

ad free bridge and sp6 but first pls ad video suport i'm sick of cariyng my turn tables and my 2000's so pls make a plugin for ns6 so this would be the most wersatile tool in all the universe thx.

djsyndic8 thx for your comment still here still waiting for video with itch , tried virtual dj it truly sucks would have been perfect if it worked but sadly it is bulshit so serato pls make the first decent controler sistem with video (i know i repeat myself i would pay top $$$ for this) thx

sadly i have understand that in vers 2.0 we will not see video but i still dream about it :)) prehaps the geeks in serato will change their mind and ad video instead of sp6 vitch is isuseful( don't undermine it) but not as much as video w"itch" is a game changer for some of us (for some of the users such as me thx in advance)

I am curious... why are their ITCH DJ's that cant wait for Video, when there is Serato VL? I mean you can use a controller, like the Numark DMC2 with Serato SL and Rane hardware for sound output. Pick a 4-5 channel 19" rack mount mixer and be able to plug in CDJ's or Turntables whenever you like. Which is another thing ITCH users say they want... the ability to plug in external sources without going through laptop.

You can do this in a very compact and cost effective manner, AND have Video, Sampler, Bridge, etc... I get the appeal of ITCH, that is why I have a Xone DX. However if Video was a core piece of my gigging/business, I would have chose the above mentioned configuration, not ITCH.

Not trying to be rude... but wondering if there is something with the before mentioned solution that does not work for those who seem to really need these features ASAP.

Video with ITCH will most likely come to pass just like it did with Scratch Live: a separate update that requires additional video hardware to separate main/queue video output signals. So it wont be a download and ready situation. In order for Serato to release it, they will have to regression test the new hardware with ITCH and all other ITCH hardware. Serato ensures the hardware and software work hand in hand. Other companies just release updates to the software and let their users figure out how to make their hardware work with the new features.

This differentiation is the most important thing that drew me to ITCH and Serato. They go the last mile to ensure the DJ experience is RIGHT ON... and they do not leave it up to their customers to figure out the hardware.

Video-SL does not currently require any additional hardware to be used with Scratch Live, it is just a software plugin for Scratch Live - it works on all interfaces and all mixers. When we do implement Video in ITCH, people won't have to purchase any additional hardware in order to use it.

It was initially released just for TTM 57SL users in Scratch Live, but was quickly opened up to all interfaces.

+10000000 true so true .. .. but pls hurry:)))))))))))

I am sooooo sorry. I could swear when I was looking at new DJ solutions and was heavily considering SSL or ITCH, I saw a special box with multiple VGA/DVI outputs on a specific Serato/Rane box. I must have dreamed that product up for you at no charge. LOL Two very good friends use the Video SL solution and love it... I could also swear they had a box that allowed them to put the little window on a monitor (other than their MBP) as well as display to the projector. I thought it was Serato branding with the VGA/DVI connectors... but maybe not. I think they use the mixer you reference above.

I am up to speed now. $199 plug in.

Setup Video: www.youtube.com

Getting Started Video: www.youtube.com

Sorry I know I hate it when someone leads me down an incorrect path. So didnt mean to do that :)

Bonjour serais til posible davoir les bulles daides en francais comme sur scratche live cest trés trés utile pour nous les francais merci a vous

you guys are something else lololol

ITCH 2.0 its a possibility you guys my have to pay for this software

nothing is free anymore thats why there is a hype

scroll up... Serato clearly stated... ITCH 2.0 is a free update. If you also look at the ITCH product page, you will see "free updates."

All of this is obviously subject to change... but it is clear that Serato is a fixed cost solution. You buy the hardware and software once, and that is it. Only the plug ins you see in their store and such are what you could ever have to buy additionally out of pocket.

when itch 2.0 will be officially free to download a specific date??

3Q to me means by End of Sept 2011. :) Once it goes beta they and everyone else will have a better idea how soon or longer it will be. :)

thanks for the clarification :)

End of september I thought I was first of July was the 3rd quarter

I think it will arrive as Public beta by mid-July...

looks great! I'm looking forward to it :)

All i'm hearing is "I want, i want, i want...i'm disappointed with..." from what sounds like spoilt brats who have all their dj rig continually bought and updated for them by mum and dad still. Compared to previous setups i've had in the past, i hafta say that Serato's regular and seriously easy to install updates continue to have my vote. I started out with VCI 300 over two years ago and now run the XoneDX, both of which have proven to be bullet proof for me throughout. I suggest all you uptight bedroom Tiestos dry your eyes or go through with your little tantrums and do the rest of us a favour by making the switch over to the Traktor forums once and for all. That way we won't be running to the corner shop every 5mins for a new box of tissues that you all seem to be ploughing through at an alarming rate.
In all honesty i've found Itch to be more than suitable for both my radio show and playing out, end of story!

If any of you had take the time to look at a calendar, if Q3 is the predicted release, they'll probably be announce in Atlantic City in August. That would be the sensible business decision, so check then and see.

BTW.....Scram nailed it. Stop whining.

@DJ Scram.....

Some of us are thoroughly invested in Serato. I, for one, have been mixing on ScratchLIVE for over 5 years now, and am not eager to switch companies any time soon. I like Serato, and it's Library, and am in no hurry to learn an entire different program. Let's be realistic, ITCH is "old" by any software's standards. Serato know this, and so too, do the countless users out there. In order for Serato to remain relevant, it is an imperative that they update....and update soon, else they will be left in the dust.

Stop kissin' ass......and learn how to spell "spoiled" ....it's not, "spoilt"!


....and for the record, my parents haven't "EVER" bought any of my gear. I'm 34.



Whatever, LOL!

If it were left to you bozos, features would never be updated.....

Co-sign.

but they ALREADY announced new features and are working on it...geez

'blackavenger' - Myself, 6 years on vinyl, 3 years on Pioneer CDJ1000Mk3 and the rest is digital history, that enough experience for ya junior? This is a technical hints and help forum, not a shoulder to cry on so harden up.

What? Junior? I've been mixing for nearly 16 years.....why are you calling me junior? And besides, who said anything about years of experience? Perhaps you need an eye exam. I was talking about the years of using a Serato product, and not wanting to switch because I was so heavily invested in it....what are you going on about, is the question?!?!?!?!?

Take it down a notch, folks.

Software companies get this all the time. They get punished for not giving a precise release date. If they gave a release date the users would say it was too far away and threaten to leave to try and get them to better the date. But if they released it before it is ready, you would punish them for releasing too soon and making you do their testing for them.

I bought ITCH in its 1.6 state with the Xone DX because it met all my primary needs. If it didnt meet those needs, then I would have gone with SSL via a DMC2, SL2, and my existing Numark PPD9000 mixer, and a small 10u rack. Would have pretty much had something about the same size as a Xone DX in a case, but a little bit heavier.

At this point the free ITCH 2.0 update is just icing on the cake.

I know it's been argued time, and time again, but I don't see it that way. To me, even though I happen to like the NS6, I don't think it's worth $1,000 by itself. Everyone nowadays expects updates to the software....we buy the ITCH Hardware with the expectation of the future Serato "software" updates. It's not our fault that Serato's business model is to make their updates free...that's how they chose to do it, so as to draw customers in. Well, I'm in....have been for many years now, and I'm finding ITCH lacking when compared to ScratchLIVE, never mind, Traktor2.

I know that 2.0 is on the horizon...it's cool, I can wait a bit longer. I wouldn't have purchased the NS6 if I wasn't prepared for that. But, 2.1 needs to be out within a few months of 2.0.....so far what has been shown for 2.0 still places ITCH far behind it's competitors. I understand that they built ITCH from the ground, up, in an attempt to make it more like ScratchLIVE.....or maybe so that they can release updates for both programs simultaneously....it's all speculation at this point. Regardless, I expect to have, at the very least, what ScratchLIVE has within months of 2.0's arrival.

Am I really being unfair with my expectations? I don't think so.

Serato! It would be a great Fathers Day gift if you guys would finally release Itch 2.0. I think we've all waited long enough.

Itch and SSL are different licenses. SSL is licensed to Rane. I don't know where intellectual capital rights fall, but assume it's Serato.

Check the duration of Traktor and VDJ major updates. They took years and were already Grassroots. Serato is moving fast when you compare how long Traktor and VDJ have been around compared to ITCH.

Chad, you're not telling me anything i don't already know....I bought ScratchLIVE when it was version 1.4, and damn has it changed a lot in those 5+ years. I realize that it took 5+ years to get where it is today, but Serato doesn't have the luxury of 5+ years to get ITCH up to the standards of where it's competitors are. I get it that ITCH & ScratchLIVE are different programs, but they are competing with Traktor which is one program that works across all mediums. This is unfortunate for Serato, but it is what it is......they need to get ITCH at the least up to ScratchLIVE's standards, and further up to (and surpassing) Traktor's, if they want it to remain relevant.

I've chosen Serato. I've ardently defended, and promoted them throughout the years. I just want them to kick their programming into high-gear. You know, Serato could have blown Traktor out of the water years ago when they introduced the SP-6....all they had to do was heed our requests to make it tempo-sync'd and Traktor2 would have been Native's response at catching up. They could have implemented FLAC. They could have adapted a version of their award winning, Pitch n' Time software to ScratchLIVE as well. I'm sorry, but Serato have had many opportunities throughout the years to totally kick the competition's asses, and leave them in the dust, but for whatever reason/s, they didn't. Now Serato find themselves, once "TOP DOG", lagging behind, and that's sad!

I have always been a scratch live user, i own two denon dn s3700 and a sl3 which i use in hybrid mode
but sometime i have a give for 2hrs or less and the denons are two heav to take and set up time is like 10-15 min.......
i am thinking of getting the numark ns6 for small gigs



serato u guys need to even release a beta version of the itch 2.0 because i cant do without the sp6 sampler if i buy the numark itch ns6........

please release the itch 2.0 guys .................the itch is really behind

itch 2.0 preview is hyping you guys up OMG yes cool and new features but its still going to play the same audio no difference....

LMFAO!!!!!!!

i hope itch 2.0 have a better way of addin new tracks to your library crates

lame...
3 years of waiting and this is what we get?

no respect to us

waiting for...I am out making money with itch/scratch live and loving every minute of it

no disrespect to either of you tho we all have different priorities tho...

I think when you buy traktor and after 2 years you have to buy it again this is no respect .waiting for a free addon can't be "no respect"

its not actually free.the controls cost
its not a stand alone program like tracktor

You mean the controllers cost money? Well, ya. But the upgrades to ITCH or SSL for that matter do not cost anything extra. I think what DJ-Yann is saying in regard to Traktor is you have to BUY their major upgrades with new features. Also, Traktor S4 is not the same as Tracktor Pro. So if you want any of the features in Traktor Pro, you have to buy an upgrade. For instance, if you wanted to use Traktor with Time Codes and MIDI map to other hardware, you have to upgrade from S4 to Pro. I believe it is $80.

With Serato, everything thing you need is IN the box. There isnt anything else to buy or upgrade after the fact to have all features and functions at your disposal. It makes your Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) very predictable. You simply choose the hardware you want to use and the software comes with. No lite versions. Its all full pro mode.

Here is the issue i can understand where the no respect comment is coming from. We as DJ's are the reason Numark and other companies exist. Without us trying and using the equipment, either to get paid or just play around we pay for the right to at least be updated with simple things.
Yeah there is a favor to getting free upgrades as opposed to paying for it. But this was something that was announced several years ago and we are still waiting. I play in the clubs and there are things that would make the job easier instead of harder. I think all we want is a date Q3 for something that we all want is not right. We get dates for everything else Numark has to offer except this. Why, cause software is always changing, if it needs to get pushed back at least give a target date on when we can expect a release. Cause here is the problem like an anticipated album we really want to spin comes out the hype is too big and the album sucks. I sure hope that when 2.0 comes out it is worth what they said and we get everything in the video plus more. Cause the hype for the NS6 was big and people bought it and some are very disappointed.

Big here,here to DJ 10:20. I really like this product and i think you do too. I pride myself on being patient and reasonable but a "date" is not too much to ask for or expect. In fact, I can understand some having doubts about the existence of this product as well. Anyone like me gets product announcements daily and starts to feel left out waiting for Itch 2.0. Those who make money DJ'ing want to give their best to their clients and Serato must know this and that's why the product is in development in the first place. The frustration is not that we wish to upgrade our toys but rather supply the missing elements in the work we do. Any decent DJ that masters his tools also ups his creativity and desire, full of ideas and desire, envisioning ourselves taking dancers to places they have never been before. I bought a professional drop with my name from a voice over artist (your in the mix with DJ Replay) to add just one more element to a frenzied crowd caught up in the moment. It's hard to play over the mix at just the right moment with an attached mp3 player hanging from the aux input. 2.0 promises a sample player and where is it? Ok, technology and excellence require much time and work but all of the professionals that I know realize that the consumer has nothing if they don't have a tentative date at least. How about putting the marketing plans on hold long enough to figure a reasonable time frame for delivery. How about saying, We know you guys are anxious, we know you've been patient and we are not ignoring you, we'll give you the word on _________? I'm not hostile or angry, just anxious and a little disappointed.

I'll go ahead and quote myself:




Make it happen Serato......we're behind you, now deliver!

i


i agree

yes i must admit itch is better than vdj ,i was playing around w it connect to my 300 and it is laggy compared to itch and the sound sucks on vdj..dosent even sound real compared to itch. itch wins on the scratching too!

i love itch w vci 300's because you really have to blend and mix, so you really have to have skillz

Its been stated many times in this very (lengthy) thread and other 2.0 threads that alot of the 'eons ago 2.0 promises' were delivered in 1.5 and 1.7. So would we got the functions that were promised as a 2.0 release bit in 1-dot releases.

I dont know about you, but I don't care if they call it 2.0 or 1.5 so long as its delivered.... which is what Sedative did..... delivered. 2.0 contains even more enhancements. So from a promises perspective, 2.0 has much more functions that what was promised 2 years ago.

So honestly this mentality of whining is pointless. Its here. Its bigger and better. If all you can complain about is they wont give a precise date.... allbi can say is welcome to the world of professional software! Its not Serato specific to wait until the date is 1000% for sure!

Damn new tablet has not learned my language yet. Lol. SEDATIVE = Serato

*So we got the functions promised for a 2.0 release via 1-dot releases.

okay Numark it's Q3 now whats up on an update.

You're addressing the wrong company.......

Who Cares put the thing out already....

Great!, Can't wait to test this update out.. very very happy about the inclusion of the samplers

As a Scratch live user i have been using the sampler and stuff for a while,i wont be an hypocrite but i only want to use itch because my ns6 is being shipped.
BUT REALLY NOW ITS 3Q AND NO SIGN OF A ITCH UPDATE I THINK IT'S REALLY RIDICULOUS

SERATO PLEASE RELEASE THE ITCH UPDATE SO I CAN ENJOY MY NUMARK ITS LONG OVER DUE NOW.

Well, its officially July. So we are in 3Q technically. ;) lol. So everyone get their panties out of a wad. It'll be here when its clean and glitch free.

To be honest , i`d rather wait as long as it takes for this program to be flawless , rather than a rush job that leads to a bad performance. Especially for live djs.

i agree therealdjmikegip

as in terms of flawless i dont know about that '

That's what BETA's are all about.....making it right before it's "officially" released ;)

....and just so you know, it's NEVER "FLAWLESS". There are always some issues, on some people's machines even when it's put out for release. So, they may as well release the Public Beta...let us pick over it for the next 3 months, rather than waiting to release it, and run the risk of it not being released in the Q3 time-frame ;)

I realize I overused the word "release", but I'm sure Y'all get the gist of what I was trying to say...hehe!

For real, i think if they have been working on this since 2009 when it was announced, there should be more than no problems the thing should damn near do our sessions for us while we just stand there and think about the next song to be played.

Again, they announced and delivered via other dot releases. What is coming in 2.0 was not in the 09 announcement. Those functions came in 1.5 aand 1.7. Get over the 09 announcement and 2.0 tag for that release. Completely irrelevant now.

Public beta will be coming soon I'm sure. Then you all can get busy on testing for your own use and start griping about no Video or Bridge as surprises in 2.0 as you had secretly hoped. ;)

yeah you`re right , it`s never gonna` be flawless but damn near flawless is just as good lol

y cuando es que ba a sali el serato 2.0 que lo estoy esperando

ok??? thats your choice,and can you fit yours in your back pack???... im not saying one is better than the other but this is what i have and can do what i need it to do,transform,scratch etc etc, cudos to ya dude.

When you Say that Itch 2.0 will be released in the "3rd quarter of the fiscal year"... Which countries fiscal year are you referring too ??? The United States "3rd Quarter" is (April 1st - June 30th)... It is now July 6th and still no Itch 2.0... What is the hold up guys ??? You have updated Scratch like 3 times since the last itch update ! Why are the Itch users being neglected ??? If your not going to update Itch for quarter 3, then When will you be releasing Itch 2.0 ???????? Love the product, but I've been awaiting the new release for quite some time now. Thank You & I hope you're almost finished so we can all enjoy the fruits of your programming labor !!!

They should of had Video, it's not has if they don't have the know how!

Its been mentioned a few times in the lengthy thread, 3Q of the calendar year 2011. That means July 1st to End of Sept.

Video is coming as is Bridge for ITCH. It has been stated several times in these forums, and it is hinted to heavily in the Pioneer Pro DJ video for DDJS1. Listen to the very end... talking about Video and Bridge coming, along with what is being introduced with ITCH 2.0. It is all on the roadmap and Serato is delivering iteratively to ensure we get more faster. This is far better than waiting for any and every new complex function everyone wants to come in ONE single release.

itch 2.0 is going to rock the party!!!!

This Taking to Damn Long My itch 1.7.1 is trash scratch is making itch look bad right now.

in the amount of time iv been waiting for itch 2.0, i raised money to buy a pair of technics 1200's and scratch live. this is taking way to long

Waited too long for the 2.0 and I just went back to VDJ. Works great with my Numark V7s and I have Video mixing. Serato I think it's time. The newer generation is not as easily convinced about your product as we old timers are. I see it all the time when I speak to new DJs. Plus Abelton is doing wonders too. Pick up your pace Serato.

hahaahaha....just love reading this thread!

Please release it already!!!! I really wish you'd include the bridge too... i hate switching windows from itch to ableton and I already bought the apc40 because you guys said the bridge was coming for itch this year! I sure hope so!

Completly agree. i bought ableton 8, apc40, and some accesories just because of the bridge announcing coming to itch. it really cant be that hard to create if Scratch Live already has it. Serato, youl'' be loosing fans and customers if the pace doesnt keep up. i've been using virtual dj recently bc they have video mixing. please for the sake of us itch djs, make updates faster and add more features.

+1

I got my APC40 and Ableton 8 as well waiting for the bridge to come out for itch this year. However, with the way they been handling Itch 2.0 release, i'm starting to get alittle worried that serato will not live up to its 2011 release of the bridge. As far as all the video comments go, I don't use videos, I just spin the music, not movies lol.

LMAO, do you realize how long it took Ableton & Serato to integrate the bridge into SSL, and how many delays? If you really NEED the bridge to play out with, just rent or buy a used SL card...

I was thinking the same thing regarding how long it took to integrate Bridge into ScratchLIVE........it took around 2 years from it's first announcement. Most of these ITCH kats weren't around to agonizingly wait for that one....haha!

Though, I agree that Serato have been dropping the ball regarding updates......Hell, ScratchLIVE hasn't received an update that has new "software" features for almost a year now. They do need to get back to frequent update releases.

I think once ITCH 2.0 is released, updates will be be quick and plentiful. They did build it from the ground up after all. My personal belief is that they are making it more like ScratchLIVE so as to update both programs in equal measure, which is a good thing for owners of both products :)

I think ScratchLIVE 2.3 is gonna be really dope as well. I think the reason it is taking so long is that they are going to give us a proper response to TSP2. If I'm wrong.....Serato are going to lose their relevancy quick!

Though, I'm quite confident that they won't disappoint us anymore. They are not fools.....they read these threads...they know peeps are growing impatient, and that some long-term users have even defected....at least I hope so anyway ;)

Exactly. They respond to their users very well. Sometimes to just know you're being heard is 50% of the positive experience. Having been with VDJ and Tracktor neither match Sedative on ease of use, stability, and service. Hands down, Serato is most relevant in that sense.

If that means I wait 4-6 months for an update, I can love with it. After feeling like a lost dog in fear of a rolled up news paper, this environment t is much more conductive to a DJ. Afterall, do you really want to spend all your practice times troubleshooting and doing bug reports? Because with VDJ, every release caused that exactly and it was so time consuming..... I was always rushed to setup my set list from spending so much time troubleshooting what the release broke. Most of the time it was just my mapping to controller or audio routing. which takes time to figure out and fix.


Just something to think about. ;)

Agreed and certainly hope so too. Loyalty is a strong thing, but it's not infinite if ignored.

Agreed and certainly hope so too. Loyalty is a strong thing, but it's not infinite if ignored.

agreed :)

i purchased 4 Pioneer ddjs1 units. 3 for my clubs & 1 for my dj use. I'm planning on returning all 4 units due to the lack of being able to disable vinyl control when starting a track without adjusting vinyl control knob to 0 which would disable braking effect when stopping a track. Maybe this issue has been adressed in Itch 2.0 I'm just going to make a return & reinstall my cdj's & ttm57 mixer. But I'm going to hold out on my personal portable set because it's a lot lighter than 1200's,Ns7 & smaller than my cdj setup. But not past 30 days, who knows what part of the 90 day release period for Itch 2.0 they will release it...

waiting waiting and still waiting
no itch 2.0

Not even a release date??? That at least will keep us quiet. Why not release that if not the product?

WTF Drop This Shit Already Damn We Pay So Much For Are Gear And Yall Cant Even Keep Up With The Updates smh

I thought I'd add a different comment other than the usual ranting and raving about the release of Itch 2.0.

I know it's a preview and I know there are lots of upgrades that'll come with 2.0 but you don't see the "Effects" section in the preview. Just saying.

Having said that... Release 2.o already!!! :)

Most likely they filmed the preview with an NS7 or VCI300 plugged in, but not their FX add on hardware. Without it, the FX controls are not accessible in the GUI. serato.com

So before everyone starts with the replies damning Serato for taking away FX or swearing they are going to another Digital DJ solution.... FX are still there in 2.0. They are just in a different place, like everything else... AND I am betting you still need your NS7 and VCI300 hardware to see them.

im actually pretty exited for itch 2.0 to come out already..I hope beatgrid can function more accurately..I gotta say it looks very well organized..I was just about to sell my ns7's to move to traktor but im going to be a little patient and see how well this software holds up.

So Serato.com had not been updated at all for the past month or longer...What is being updated? So information goes a long way. Any updates of any kind?????

They are working hard so many new features and stuff coming :). I am excited as well but I already have a 68, the bridge, and video sl so of course I am more patient! When it comes out I do Plan to buy a ns7 or ns6

THE BETA IS OUT FINALLY YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! its 11:33pm California time and i'm gonna be up all night loving this

Thinking real hard about a ns6 now...

Nice....finally something new to tinker with ;)

Is That the beta for 2.0
i dont see it or get and email with it
so what are you talking about

Is That the beta for 2.0
i dont see it or get and email with it
so what are you talking about

Here you go, Dus .....

serato.com

thank you!!!! i love the new beta look,bout to go try it with my NS7...

a program that doesnt allow the user to modify it to better their performance will never further their DJ setup into being an instrument. seamless plug-in-and-play maybe, but absolutely no midi control and you have a boring piece of shit. fuck itch. fuck serato. i spent 1500 on an ns7 with a beautiful mixer and turntables that i cant use outside of itch. serato wants so much fucking money if your actually going to DJ, with Rane milking $1000's out of everyones wallets.
$100 Traktor sound card and literally ANY controller, Ean Golden showed all of us this.
if the SP-6 is midi compatible then great!
im buying a midi-fighter and switching to traktor anyway.
so go ahead and take your bloody time serato.

I have been where you have been... except I was on the other side of the fence. I have tried VDJ and Traktor. The bring your own controller and audio interface - separately or all in one sounds very appealing. Until you have to try and perfect it for them. You will find yourself a year down the road posting in a forum, tired of waiting on a fix to their midi mappings or something-or-other and you are going back to Serato ... where you KNOW the hardware works as it is was designed.

I would rather be able to rely on the HW functions to do what they were designed to do... and then be creative on my own. The alternative I have delt with (with Traktor/VDJ) is the mapping working great the first half of my set... and then that last half unpredictable.

You have to do what you have to do... but just giving another perspective that lead me to Serato and why I stay. I am not a MIDI magician, nor do I want to be. I want to spend time planning and practicing my set... not trying to fix a broken mapping after a X.X.1.1 software update.

When I got up this morning and found that Itch 2.0 Public Beta was available, I almost called in sick. I can't wait to try it and to hear what others have to say. Like a kid a Christmas.

^ +1 ... I actually didnt go....was home all day on my V7s

hahaha....itch 2.0 is tight and I stayed home all day trying to unlock the easter egg....and now with bridge and video on the horizon it will be a GREAT year to own ANY itch controllers! And by the way grassy knoll a little bird told me that midi mapping is coming...hahahaha serato rules!

Does it really matter what software you use,theres people out here that still uses cds and do a good job out of it,whether its serato,vdj,traxtor doesn't matter,being a d,j it not about what you use,its about how you play music,its understanding that we as Djs become the stand ins for the artist,we gotta provide the people with that same feeling of entertainment,make the people feel like the artist is right infront of them,its about reading the crowd & knowing what they want..If we gon be here and argue back and forth about software,then we lost the element of what a real dj does..I have battle with all areas,growing up using vinyl,to cds to mps,to labtops,vdj,scratch live & itch,it doesn't matter what i was using,at the end when people come to me and ask for my number or a card,or told me they had fun,or the music was great,best time of there life,last week a lady celebrating her birthday told me i made her night!!! thats what a djs job is all about,forget what you use,its how you use it..stop complaining and do your job...now i do my job using both NS7 and regular scratch live..so Itch 2.0 is a great look...

if i forget to mention OMG i am loving the new itch 2.0...can't wait for the official release!!! but right now even the beta seems to be working great to me.....think i might try it out tonight at the bar i do every wednesday>>><

@dj Tres LEt Me KNO If It Wrks

It matters if the solution they are using is not:

1) Functional
2) Reliable
3) Intuitive to a DJ work flow
4) Flexible, but not to the extent of constant self breakage

This goes for CDs and Turntables just as much as Laptop or Digital Media based DJ setups. A DJ is only going to be as good as the equipment they play on. CD players and Turntables can skip with heavy bass near by, a dusty CD/Record, or a drunk who cant walk a straight line! LOL Laptops can crash. Software can crash. Cables can get kicked and undone.

Lots of vulnerability with any technical solution. Just like anything you build on, it requires a solid foundation. A DJ can not "wow" crowds with a CD player that constantly skips. I have been there... done that. You cant really pull off much more than song to song mixing when a CD player keeps mixing. If you try to layer and sample.... it becomes more bothersome to the audience to hear constant skipping, train wrecked beats, etc...

So it really does matter if the solution they are on is sound. Otherwise there is nothing that will set a DJ apart from another, except song selection.

We're already in the 3rd quater of 2011...

public beta is out svljoen. link is above. you can also just go to the forums page and you'll see it listed on the ITCH section.

I WAS RIGHT!!!

Where's the download link?

dude im being denied permission! i'll check it out later if i can. thanx a mil.

If you are a registered use for Serato.com, you should be able to access the ITCH 2.0 Public Beta Thread by following these directions:

1 - www.serato.com and click on Forms in the upper right - will take you here: serato.com
2 - scroll down to ITCH DISCUSSION section
3 - First discussion forum is ITCH 2.0 Public Beta - will take you here: serato.com (if you were in the private beta, it will be the second listing)

Please note that to access this area you must first accept the terms of the beta. This should occur when you open the 20096 Release Candidate thread inside the Public Beta Thread: serato.com or when you access the public beta form for the first time.

Lastly, those testing the Public Beta need to contain their quesitons and bug reports to the ITCH 2.0 Public Beta area: serato.com

The General ITCH discussion thread was pages of 2.0 questions, and they need to be all tracked and contained with in the 2.0 Beta area. That way all of us beta testers can see in 1 area what each other is running into, have questions about, and how we can help one another.

Im still here guys... lol
It's cool. I'm sorted now. Let the apesh!t begin!!!! Thnx:)

Will do. thanx DJSyndic8:)

Just passing on what I have learned from experiencing it myself. I think we all forget about that "accept before you can post of view" page once we have already signed up and been browsing around.

I hope everyone is enjoying the public beta as much as I am. It is truly remarkable. Solid. Great new design.

Hey DjSyndic8,

Can you please report your problems in the Public Beta area, and ask for help there. There might be a quick solution to your problems, or it might be a bigger problem that we need to fix. Either way, we're keen to help!

Not for technical consideration, but rather just a comment while I take my time and enjoy the learning process of this new development...THIS THING IS FRIGGIN AWESOME!