how many "feature request" threads do we have no for 2.1? :-P

New bugs detected (Pionner DDJ-S1):
- Fix no sound on outputs when a keyboard is plugged in somes notebooks.
- Fix Itch hung-up when a USB mouse is plugged in somes notebooks.

Thanks.

More some suggestion for detected bugs:
- Fix small glitches and jumps in the sound when using the pitch values ​​at the extremes, such as -12 or +12%!
- Improve the signal quality coming from the USB, because I realize that the software overloads the USB channel and processor!

A new Itch bug found (Pioneer DDJ-S1 only):
- SHIFT+JUMP combination key is not avaliable in Itch 1.8 and 2.0.1 too. This function enable running fast in browser song lists to fast search in long lists. Please, don't forget that enable this function in next Itch version!!!

Thanks.

More one suggestion (Pionner DDJ-S1 only):

- Pitch LED light up when is it in below or above if 0 position. This is very helpful in dark environment (VirtualDJ have this possibility). To SYNC position, LED come to blink!! It's very cool!!! ;-)

Thanks!!

Oppss: if = of!!

please no blinking :-P

Fix 'headroom' dB scale.
Values ​​above '0dB' should be +3, +6, etc and those below '0dB' should be -3, -6, -9, etc as in a conventional scale. Please, fix it in future version.
See atached picture.
Thanks.

Wrong HEADROOM dB scale on Itch picture: img823.imageshack.us

OK, No blink! LED should be ON in positive or negative position on pitch slider, independet if using sync or not.

It's very helpfull on dark envirouments.

;-)

Suggestions sumary (updated):

Pioneer DDJ-S1 exclusive:
- Fix Pitch LED is not lighting. Best suggestion: Pitch LED light up when pitch slider is in below or above 0 position. This is very helpful in dark environment (VirtualDJ have this possibility). Independet if using sync or not (urgent).
- SHIFT+JUMP combination key is not avaliable in Itch 1.8 and 2.0.1 too. This function enable SPEED in browser song lists to fast search in long lists. Please, don't forget that enable this function in next Itch version!!! (urgent).

General Itch URGENT suggestions:
- Improve BPM/Beat Grid engine detection in some songs.
- Fix "robotized" sound when using the pitch values ​​at the extremes, such as -12 or +12%!
- Improve the signal quality coming from the USB, because I realize that the software overloads the USB channel and processor!
- Repair Database button/option.
- Option to change waveform aspects to classic waveform (same VirtualDJ and Traktor aspect) for a smooth operation/low CPU load in some PC notebooks, specially with Intel HD Graphics on-chip video cards.
- Improve waveform refresh (Hz) - in PC computers, waveform show "drops" (lags), slow FPS.
- Option to export Crates to M3U format for futures imports/restore backups.
- Fix no sound on outputs when a USB KEYBOARD is plugged in somes PCs notebooks.
- Fix Itch hung-up when a USB MOUSE is plugged in somes PCs notebooks.

For futures, non-urgent suggestions, but it's very cool:
- Button to change layout to classic mode option (song list in top and waveforms on botton).
- Option to clean played state for a one or more song nor all songs in history.
- Keyboard shortcut to change visual between REC, DJ FX and SP6 for non mouse use! Itch 1.8 show REC and DJ-FX in same space on screen, but in Itch 2.0.1 it's shared!
- Fix 'headroom' dB scale. Values ​​above '0dB' should be +3, +6, etc and those below '0dB' should be -3, -6, -9, etc as in a conventional scale. Please, fix it in future version.

Staff: Please, study the suggestions above with care! :-)

Thanks!

I found some things that exist in version 1.8 but not more in 2.0.1:

- By clicking on the CRATES button, the cursor moves to the CRATE list and the CRATE LED is on. Jump to the songs list, CRATE LED is off. Double-clicking on the CRATES button, the cursor jumps between CRATE list and the SONGS list. This is not working in version 2.0. CRATE LED stays on, even in the cursor being LIST. The CRATE BUTTON LED should be lighted only when the cursor is on the CRATE list. Out of the list, the LED should be OFF, as well as in version 1.8! Please fix this in next version!

- When I set a HOTCUE point in music, I click on CUE point and it is fixed, but after some time it goes out alone and I need the mark again HOTCUE click on it again. This does not happen all the songs, but mostly. Please fix this as well.

Note: Please, pay more attention to develop new versions, because many things that had in previous versions is not working in the new version or some problem occurs. The fact that the program does not have a list of options to customize the MIDI instructions requires us to always look forward to new versions of these small incidents can be corrected! If there was a way to customize the MIDI instructions as with the VDJ and Traktor, it would be much, much easier for us and for you too!

Thanks!

Another tip:

- I have seen many people complaining about this problem. When we use the function ALPHABET SEARCH (shift + search needle) and clicking the UP ARROW (at the ends - SHORT), the cursor jump between song list headers (ARTIST, SONG, BPM, etc. which are available at the time) but not jump under the "#" header! This is very bad since this header is the custom order of the songs on the list and how the notebook's keyboard is hidden under the DDJ-S1 does not have to click back in the "#" header to return to its previous state!

Please fix it also in the next version of Itch! Remember that the DDJ-S1 owners use a laptop under it, limiting access to the keyboard and mouse! Think about it!

Thanks!

Suggestions sumary (updated in 11.20.2011):

Pioneer DDJ-S1 exclusive:
- Fix Pitch LED is not lighting. Best suggestion: Pitch LED light up when pitch slider is in below or above 0 position. This is very helpful in dark environment (VirtualDJ have this possibility). Independet if using sync or not (urgent).
- SHIFT+JUMP combination key is not avaliable in Itch 1.8 and 2.0.1 too. This function enable SPEED in browser song lists to fast search in long lists. Please, don't forget that enable this function in next Itch version!!! (urgent).
- Fix CRATE LED when the cursor is in CRATE LIST or SONG LIST. The CRATE BUTTON LED should be lighted only when the cursor is on the CRATE list. Out of the list, the LED should be OFF, as well as in version 1.8! Please fix this in next version!
- Fix ALPHABET SEARCH SHORT option is not included "#" song list header. When we use the function ALPHABET SEARCH (shift + search needle) and clicking the UP ARROW (at the ends - SHORT), the cursor jump between song list headers (ARTIST, SONG, BPM, etc. which are available at the time) but not jump under the "#" header! This is very bad since this header is the custom order of the songs on the list and how the notebook's keyboard is hidden under the DDJ-S1 does not have to click back in the "#" header to return to its previous state!

General Itch URGENT suggestions:
- Improve BPM/Beat Grid engine detection in some songs.
- Fix "robotized" sound when using the pitch values ​​at the extremes, such as -12 or +12%!
- Improve the signal quality coming from the USB, because I realize that the software overloads the USB channel and processor!
- Repair Database button/option.
- Option to change waveform aspects to classic waveform (same VirtualDJ and Traktor aspect) for a smooth operation/low CPU load in some PC notebooks, specially with Intel HD Graphics on-chip video cards.
- Improve waveform refresh (Hz) - in PC computers, waveform show "drops" (lags), slow FPS.
- Option to export Crates to M3U format for futures imports/restore backups.
- Fix no sound on outputs when a USB KEYBOARD is plugged in somes PCs notebooks.
- Fix Itch hung-up when a USB MOUSE is plugged in somes PCs notebooks.
- Fix CUE POINT not stay stopped in some songs. When I set a HOTCUE point in music, I click on CUE point and it is fixed, but after some time it goes out alone and I need the mark again HOTCUE click on it again. This does not happen all the songs, but mostly. Please fix this as well.

For futures, non-urgent suggestions, but it's very cool:
- Button to change layout to classic mode option (song list in top and waveforms on botton).
- Option to clean played state for a one or more song nor all songs in history.
- Keyboard shortcut to change visual between REC, DJ FX and SP6 for non mouse use! Itch 1.8 show REC and DJ-FX in same space on screen, but in Itch 2.0.1 it's shared!
- Fix 'headroom' dB scale. Values ​​above '0dB' should be +3, +6, etc and those below '0dB' should be -3, -6, -9, etc as in a conventional scale. Please, fix it in future version.
- Change TREMOLO effect title to GATTER or CUTTING (to suit at real effect type), because TREMOLO is other effect type and not Itch TREMOLO effect (see professional software and keyboards)!

Staff: Please, study the suggestions above with care! :-)

Nothing to "fix" here. The word "headroom" has a specific meaning. No digital signal can go "above 0db", that's why Serato choose to use headroom (-3 means dynamics is reduced 3 dbs towards the digital ceiling).

what do you mean exactly with "signal quality coming from USB"? signal quality is just fine.



repair database from what? I'm using the same database since 2008 with not a single problem



do you mean the same Traktor that just copied Serato colored waveforms? :D



which keyboard? which mouse? a general warning won't help debug



open a help ticket, this is not a known bug and I've never experienced it in over 3 yrs



the effect is indeed a tremolo, so the name is definitely correct. Gate is a special case of tremolo (sustain=0)

Man, are you part of developers and support Serato staff? If not, very grateful for your comments, but the Serato staff team has seen the tips and they have reported about it. Who should approve them or not is Serato team and not you, ok! It's a SUGGESTIONS ONLY, OK!



Do you have a Pioneer DDj-S1 equipmet to know about it? Please, read Pioneer DDJ-S1 forum and see about this problem before make a fool comment!!



What is your computer? PC or Mac? Again: Do you have a Pioneer DDj-S1 equipmet to know about it? Please, read Pioneer DDJ-S1 forum and see about this problem before make a fool comment!! DDJ-S1 users put notebook under the controller dock, then the access to KEYBOARD and MOUSE is fully LIMITED!!! To use it, only EXTERNAL KEYBOARD and MOUSE is necessary!!! But using this devices, cause Itch several problems, already seen and discussed on the forums.



Yes, I know! But it would be a great option for those who do not want the waveform color feature in which occupy much of the computer video card, especially for those using Windows that is the majority!



Lucky for you, because it is not the case with many people here in the forum. If there is a problem in the database, you have to manually make a new one, as instructed by staff. It is not very practical for many people. One option that made checking the bank would be very welcome!



This is a problem in the kernel of the program, something that developers should check and if it detects a critical problem to be fixed! I read in the forums that many people have problem of dropout, noise and various problems with USB port, but I know that many are because of the lack of user attention. In general, this suggestion is only to be seen if there is an overload to the USB ports.



It's very complicated to understand this, right? As long as I can remember I know that values above 0 is POSITIVE and below 0 is NEGATIVE and not the opposite! There is a correct explanation for this, but it is the staff decide what to do. In my view, this scale is wrong!

Well, let the team decide what Serato do in the next versions. It's up to them to decide what to do. We only report problems and possible suggestions, nothing more, okay!

1+

I think you have some good pionts and hope serato look at them for you all who dont have problems that great i wish it was the same for every user but thats not the case!!

Guy, Cerla is one of the most respected users on this forum and you should listen when he gives an opinion about something.

Moreover, most of your "urgent suggestions" have been posted by other users for years in this forum and "other" forums. Here everyone has the same ideas.


Itch has one of the best BPM detection systems on the market. When you have problems with a song try another software and see the result.


This is not a secret. Itch has the worst keylock engine I've never seen.


Maybe Serato developers has not thought of this.


LOL


Yes, in black and white. Press control and click with the mouse on the waveform to change the waveform.


change waveform aspect VS Improve waveform refresh? I can´t decide.


Yes, is very complicated for you.

"urgent"?! Those lights would be something hardware-specific, and if that wasn't a feature on previous versions of the software OR other hardware platforms, I don't blame Serato for holding off on that little feature and prioritizing other things.

I'd like to see the DDJ-S1 remember settings (or the software, wherever it's better to store this], like illumination on the jog wheels. I much prefer reducing that lighting before I get started, but I wish I didn't have to re-set this each at the beginning of each session.

General:
- Improve BPM/Beat Grid engine detection in some songs (urgent).
- Button to change layout to classic mode option (song list in top and waveforms in botton).
- Repair Database button or option.
- Option to change waveform aspects to classic waveform (same VirtualDJ and Traktor aspect).
- Improve waveform refresh (Hz) - in some computers, waveform show "drops" (lags) slow FPS.
- Option to export Crates to M3U format for futures imports/restore.
- Option to clean played state for a one or more song nor all songs in history.
- Preview deck - listen a highlighted song before load it in deck just pressing one notebook keyboard (same VirtualDJ and Traktor). In actual Itch Version, a default player is loaded in paralel with Itch. It's not functional!

More suggestions?

Staff: Please, study the suggestions above with care! :-)

Thanks!

First off, relax. I'm not a "fool" (PS name calling is in violation of rule #1 of this forum) and of course I own a DDJ-S1, besides a Twitch, a NS7, V7 and a NS6.

This is a public forum, its purpose is DISCUSSION; if you simply want to communicate with Serato devs, just email them, otherwise be open to discussion and criticism, as everyone else here.

The comment about "positive" and "negative" values for headroom says much about your experience in audio. Of course, leaving more headroom means a lower output (imagine a variable-sized "room" placed between the peaks of the signal and the 0db digital ceiling; the bigger the room the lesser space left for the signal), so reducing headroom means that the quietest parts of the signal will be "pushed higher" towards the 0db digital ceiling that, contrary to your beliefs, can't be surpassed. If you don't understand something, it doesn't mean that it should be "fixed".

Af far as the "bad" USB stream goes... well... dropouts are a very common issue in audio, especially when you put user mistakes/unoptimized PCs into the equation. The USB stream, per se, is just fine. If you think you have a solution, just apply for a job as a programmer at Serato, be warned you will have to move to New Zealand :)

[For what it's worth, I was having no drop-outs on my VCI-300, but I was getting them on my new DDJ-S1... until I adjusted the latency buffer in Settings by just one notch to the right.]

My DDJ-S1 has always been connected to an external keyboard and mouse, with no problems at all. That's why you should provide the exact models of the keyboard and mouse you're having trouble with, together with the exact specs of your system in order to debug this. No need to insult, it's just normal debug practice.

Also, an external keyboard and mouse is not "necessary" at all on the DDJ-S1: just extract your laptop from under the controller and you're done. The fact that the laptop CAN be fitted under the controller doesn't mean it MUST, thus no "necessity" here.

All respect Cerla, you're a talented guy, but I'm sorry, all your staunch defence of Itch rings a bit sour if , as you've stated in other threads, you're not actually using the latest version for gigs. If it isn't good enough to play out with, it's not good enough full stop.

Specifically what points of this topic are you referring to as "staunch defense"? Moreover. how a "staunch defense" fits with the fact that I publicly said I'm not yet using 2.0 in real gigs?

BTW after two months of tests at the studio with no problems I started using 2.0 out last Saturday.

Man, in my desktop this problem does not happen!! Other people are reporting the same problem, I'm not inventing anything, okay! The fact is that the same problem happened to me too. If I connect any USB keyboard (Logitech, Microsoft, Genius, etc) in my notebook, no sound comes out in the DDJ-S1 Master Output. If I plug any USB mouse (Logitech, Microsoft, Genius, etc) on my laptop, the Itch crashes at times, needing to restart it. On my desktop it does not happen and looks that I have two keyboards, a mouse, an external hard drive and a joystick, both connected to us in the computer's USB ports. I have not noticed any problems. I think this may be in some notebooks, since there are limitations in hardware, because they are portable. I will do more tests on other notebooks to ascertain more accurately. I did not observe any similar problem on Macs.

OK now that's a much better report.

Okay, this suggestion will not change anything in my life. Do not make any difference and I doubt that the Serato change that! If I was wrong, I'm sorry, but in my view, in all my 16 years of experience in audio and DJing, I came across something that I could not understand immediately, even reading the explanations of the manual! I do not know what is the logic that the Serato found for this scale, but anyway ... I have seen that this discussion does not get anywhere.

What I and others want is that the problems encountered in Itch will be corrected as soon as possible. These problems are:

- Improve detection of BPM / Beat Grid - Staff have found the problem, recognized and reported. See at serato.com
- Improve the MasterTemp engine ("robotized" sound) - a problem already recognized by staff and reported. See at serato.com
- Enable the SHIFT + JUMP option that is not working since version 1.8 - Already recognized by staff and reported.
- Enable the LEDs on the pitch who were working on version 1.8 but not more than 2.0 in - already recognized by staff and reported. See at serato.com

Thanks.

Ok... and??



And so far not been fixed ...



I do not think! I use VirtualDJ, Traktor, Ableton and several others softwares for over 8 years and have never seen similar problem like this. I can assure you that all my songs, without exception, were all converted by Platinum Notes 3 software and analyzed by Mixed In Key 5, both professional softwares (Do you know them?)! So there are no problems with my songs, but with the Itch! Any software, including the rude MixMeister BPM Analyzer, properly calculates the BPM of any song, without exception, something that Itch is not capable of doing! Explain me this, my dear!



I totally agree!



:-)



:-)



Not is the same. A single waveform, showing only the peaks of the bass, emphasizing more loudest sounds, as in VDJ!



My friend, not snobby, please! One thing has nothing to do with it! You know how the application creates the colorful waveforms on your screen? I'll try to explain to you: the software analyzes the sound and literally "paints" the waveform on your screen from time to time. It is different from monochrome waveform which is nothing more than the audio spectrum and with added emphasis on the highest peak (severe). Waveforms require more colorful graphics card and CPU, making runs "drops" and lags on some computers, especially PCs! This is the same as low FPS in games!




Not only me, my dear! I have over 16 years of experience with audio, software, computer and DJing. So do not judge me without knowing me, ok!

Just to clarify: I'm no better than anyone else here. I just suggested a few things because I know that Itch is not perfect and loses some questions for the competition. I work with software mixing for over 8 years and have much knowledge to write what I write here. I am not a lammer, ok!

Thanks.

Headroom has already been explained and it's no rocket science. But I'll try again:

Adding 3 dbs of headroom means you're adding 3 dbs of "space" between the peaks of your track and the maximum level possible (0db). Why? Because you may want the limiter NOT to kick in during a mix or when an FX is applied. Drawback: less volume on single track playback.

Subtracting 3 dbs of headroom (-3db) means you are pushing the limiter, thus hitting the maximum level not only with peaks but even with quieter parts. Why you may want to do so? Because you will get more apparent volume. Drawback: loss of dynamics in music ("squashed") sound.

Hope this helps.

OK, djcerla. Thanks for your explanation! I get it now!
I thought that was how wide the range of GAIN, for the more above the 0dB is the value, the higher volume output.

But HEADROOM function is a little hard to understand at first.

;-)

I think you are right, as it's not super-intuitive.

A solution could be something like renaming it "limiter contour" with negative values decreasing the volume (thus leaving more headroom for overlaps), zero=neutral (limiting only when two signals overlap) positive values pushing the limiter>more apparent volume

Yes! It's a best suggestion!

;-)

And you should listen to someone whit enough knowledge about audio/music production and knows Itch in depth.


Perhaps the developers are on the beach or playing Doom in the office, or working hard to improve Itch, or wasting their time reading duplicated post again and again. Before you make a suggestion use the search box and check that someone has not done it before.


I also use MIK and PN. These programs can only improve the sound and detect the key and BPM, but not fix the problems of a song (If you can call problems complicated or humanized rhythm patterns. BPM changes, etc..) Just two months ago I compared MIK, Mixmeister and Itch and the results were similar. serato.com But, you use MIK or Itch to scan the songs?


So it is not necessary to repeat again and again. Serato already know their own problem.


Thank you very much for your explanation. I'm sure Serato could do it and could even add an option for to put your favorite color to the waveform. As you can see in this video Itch can do it in real time, (not from time to time) At 0:56 you can see a nice red waveform á la Virtual DJ. But… the colored waveforms are very useful to have the music under control, especially the bass. In addition, any software is sold much better when look visually attractive. Watchwww.youtube.com


This forum is full of people who just started to DJing but there are a lot of DJs/producers experienced as you. I released my first track in 1993 with an old Atari computer running Cubase in a monochrome monitor and I'm an ex-DMC champ DJing since 1988. So don´t judge me without knowing me :)
And your suggestions are welcome and some are very good, but first make sure not to publish something that has been previously published to avoid filling the forum with duplicate information.

indeed Rodrigo, i also noticed a certain amount of patronizing in here sometimes.
sure there're a lot of noobs around but treating everybody you don't know that way is not the way to go.


of course you're right. it's not the same by far even more so because it's 3 waveforms for each deck and way too small.
i requested a single color waveform option already but i like your idea even more

A punctual criticism is no "patronizing"; it's rather a good thing (and indeed it produced an idea).

The same can't be said for repeated name calling ("fool comment", etc) aimed to "everybody you don't know", just to use your words. So check who "patronized" who, especially since "be nice to others" is a rule here.

Thanks, R-A-C!

:-)

OK, djcerla. But I've noticed some hostility here. My objective here is not to overshadow anyone, much less criticize anyone, otherside, I want to help people collaborate and suggest improvements to the software, because I know that the Itch, Scratch Live and DJ Intro are excellent, stable and has everything to be the best solutions for DJs, but we know we still have a long way to go. Here the goal of all this is to help people in their difficulties, detect problems and suggest solutions, nothing else! Critics are most welcome, provided they are constructive.

Thanks!

So if a punctual (technical) comment is "hostile" how your abundant name-calling is to be categorized? Explain.

Also, in your first reply you asked if I'm part of Serato, as if I was not allowed to reply to your points. Isn't this "hostile" in your views? Hint: it surely is. You've been the hostile guy here, just to be clear.

OK, "expert-man"!!! If I want to know about Itch, I will contact Serato Staff!


If they are doing it, I do not know and is not my problem. If I repeat the suggestions, it means that have not yet been solucioandas, okay! I as a consumer, one who paid a high price for a product that comes with the itch, I have every right to express myself, complain and require solutions! If you were bothered, I'm sorry!



I'm sorry, but I do not agree with you. PN analyzes the music and creates a new file optimized. If the music is damaged, PN nor initiates the process! My songs are perfect, without any problems! I can assure you that the problem is with the Itch and not with my songs. I have friends who use the Itch and found the same problem as me so it's not just me that happens, okay.


I did not know that someone had already written about it. I will not be digging up the whole forum looking for old topics! Do not have time for it! If someone has already commented about this and Serato know the problems, why has not fix in version 2.0.1? This problem, as well as others have commented, there are old and long ago and so far have not been corrected! My computer is a PC and I can not test on a Mac to see if the same thing happens.



You're welcome! Thank you for your snobbery! I can see that you have a vast knowledge of software and audio... Then I see that people like you It's impossible to have dialogue, so I no longer have to keep talking because you and ask you not to mess with my more topics with their snobbery and arrogance, ok! If it is to make constructive criticism politely, is very welcome, otherwise do not even need to speak! Patience is a virtue!



UAUUUU!! You're a genius-man!!! What are you doing here then? You should work for NASA or start a new 'Apple'! Or better: Record a clip and send it to MTV, maybe you're as famous as Akon, Snoop Dogg, etc. ..



OK, Thanks!

I've wanted to say that I've noticed a bit of hostility from you here in my topic. It was the way you wrote that I did not like. The impression I got is what I was doing something incredibly wrong here. What I did was just gather several suggestions and corrections for future versions of the Itch! I did not invent these suggestions! I collected and summarized it! But some are my own, but not all!

You can rest assured that from now on, any suggestion that I will send it directly to the Staff!

I hostile? See the way you wrote it! Who I am to prohibit anyone here anything...
I think the debate really cool, the discussions, but they are in education, no reprimand or snobbery. This I do not admit it and not keep quiet! We must be mind that no one here on the forum know anyone personally and the way that the person writes can be interpreted in many ways the "other side of the net".
No more questions..
Bye.

No, you did a great good job posting your impressions and suggestions here, as Serato staffers do read the forum. I really appreciated your attitude, in stark contrast with the sterile whining seen too often here.

Posting here allows other forum members to discuss, simplify and improve your ideas, pushing ITCH development forward, as real-life DJ feedback is the most precious one.

In this spirit, notice how I asked questions, criticized and also debunked SOME of your points (for example the Tremolo suggestion was plain wrong), not ALL of them. It was really sufficient to develop the discussion to "polish" your ideas to perfection. If you go and read my points they're very pertinent. Calling someone a "fool" for his ideas doesn't help nobody and it's plain arrogant.

I agree with you now!
Sorry by the "fool". ;-)
This topic is a compilation of several users suggestions, not mine only!

Thanks.

Nice. Keep up the good work.

:-)

you know what i mean ;-)

yeah and he was right about that. i'd have felt the exact same way after how he's been treated hence my comment above

No, he wasn't and that's why he apologized for that. Do we really need to beat this dead horse after me and the OP agreed?

a diplomatic reply doesn't mean it was right. and we're still far from beating anything to death :-P

but it's okay now.

Indeed, he wasn't right at all. :)

fixed in 2.1

he had a point and i fully understand why. the rest has been mentioned already.
this is settled now but neglecting parts doesn't do any good.

he had a point in insulting for no reason? How? My remarks were (and still are) all good, please re-read my posts, then check out his reaction; it's very easy to see who offended who.

he meant your comment was silly and that is right. also as mentioned already there is a tendency here to treat others as 'fools' ... unfortunately.

anyway i don't think this is getting anywhere. better not to spam this topic further

I'm sorry but comments were (and are) all spot on.

Again, as I wrote to RodrigoVolta:

1. it obviously is known
2. the fact that you haven't experinced this doesn't mean anything and doesn't help him either

but it's okay, some of us are just perfect ;-)

WRONG.

he put this under "general ITCH" issues, not DDJ-S! issues, so this is NOT a known bug for ITCH in general.

Next try?

Yes, I was wrong, however, many ITCH bugs is for ITCH General and not DDJ-S1 only!
Ex.: BPM/Beat Grid analyze problem, Mastertempo problem, etc.

I think should have a specific topic for suggestions and improvements of Itch in general. Here do not have, at least I have not found yet ...

:-)

Hi Rodrigo, nevermind, I was only explaining to R-A-C how my comment wasn't "silly" :-)

that exactly, a less cocky attitude would be welcome.
anyway i'm sure there will be a next reply stating that and why you're 120% flawless ... knock yourself out :-P

I'm far from flawless. But those specific comments were (and are) spot on. Here's the section I replied to:



Clear now? The CUE bug isn't a known general ITCH bug, indeed. But if you want we can continue beating this poor dead cat.

Well, I was thinking... Does this problem really is general or only with the DDJ-S1? I'll do more testing with version 1.8 to see if the problem reappears or not...
What I noticed was the following: When I create a HOTCUE point, a red line is marked on the waveform. Then I click on the CUE button and a white line is marked. What I saw what happens is that the CUE key LED stops blinking and after a time the CUE point out of position and CUE button LED again flashes. I have to go back to click the HOTCUE button and CUE button again! This is normal is a failure or software / hardware?

Thanks, R-A-C! ;-)
With the help of us all, Serato Itch will have a nice evolution!
I just hope that the development team read our requests and consider at least part of it all! :-D

yup i hope they'll pick up some ideas so the more the better, and you're welcome :-)

I'm a little confused about what you mean here. Would you be able to give me some numbered steps so I can take a shot at reproducing this.

Cheers :)

Ok, Logan D. I'll try explain with more details:
- When I load a track in any decks, I aways set a HOTCUE point in track, pressing '1' button. A red vertical line is showed in waveform. Them I press CUE button to mark a start point. CUE button LED is LIGHTING now, not blinking. Meanwhile, other deck is playing normally. After a few seconds, the song seems that 'walked', because the HOTCUE and CUE point is no longer over the waveform vertical mid line. It is as if it were moved forward! The CUE button LED is BLINK now! Then I press HOTCUE button '1' and the red line is under the waveform vertical mid line. Then I press CUE button and, again, the track is ready to play. However, the CUE button LED is BLINKING and not more LIGHTING only!
This is normal? Am I doing something wrong? I'd like to bore this process better.
Thanks!!

more than one active loop. example:

let's say i have a track that only has a short intro and a short outro. so, maybe in the offline player before the gig, i could precisely set 2 loops and save them. one at the beginning and one at the end. then later when i play that track both loops would be active and after i disable the first one the second one would still be active so when the track comes to its end the loop would kick in at the precise position i've set at home before.

now the question is how to only disable certain loops?
a number of ways come to mind. none of them however ideal but managable. one way could be to make the autoloop button disable the loops in order so by pressing it once the first loop would be off and by pressing a second time the second loop would be off. pressing a third time would activate the regular autoloop function as it is now.

Okay I see what you mean now. I can't reproduce this here but my guess would be that the platter is just registering a movement which is moving the playhead a little forward. When this happens the Cue button will blink because the playhead is no longer on the Cue position. When you press Cue again it will-reset the Cue marker.

Does this only happen when there is loud music playing? Can you reproduce this if there is no music playing? I'm just thinking that perhaps bass vibrations are moving the platter just a little which is why this is happening.

Yes, Logan.
I think that the vibration could move the platters! I read some posts here on this subject. In quiet environment, the problem is longer to appear. I will do more precise tests and post here the results.

We have an FAQ regarding this platter vibration here : serato.com

I just saw this article yesterday that you might like to check out too, a few suggestions on how to remedy this : www.djtechtools.com

Thanks, Logan!
I will provide some type of foamed or comfortable base to accommodate the controller and see if that resolves the problem.

I think a hard-case would be a good solution! I will arrange one!

;-)

Cool, let me know what works the best :)

;-)

Yes, Logan.
The vibration move jogs!!! I've noticed that last night.
The vibrations from the subwoofer move the jogs, making the songs that were synchronized, get out of sync easily.
It's a hardware bug, not software!
However, the possibility exists for developers include an option to adjust the sensitivity of the PITCH BEND VALUE? I think it would help a lot in some cases.
I have no tested it using foam or pads I do not know if it would help.

Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback. We are investigating ways to improve/fix this issue, as it exists not only for the DDJ-S1 but with the Pioneer CDJs in HID mode also. I can't say if/when/how it'll be fixed at this moment but it is one of our priorities.

Thank you, Logan
This problem should be fixed by Pioneer!
Or should exist a jog sensivity knob, as Vestax VCI-300.
Anyway...