Yes I agree, but i would have preferred to have had gang starr months/years ago, which I did so I edited them myself.

just because they put gang starr up after guru died doesn't make them awesome.

They do have the best quality out there, but lacking in the old school area. Which I understand since there is so much new shit to put out on a weekly basis.

would also be nice to see more crooklyn stuff being they promote that they collab. should be weekly crooklyn updates in my opinion.

They've had the game on lock for sometime now.

Really...I haven't had a subscription for 2 years.

A pool has always been to promote newmusic. We do post oldschool but it is a bonus, very rarely record pools had repressings......new music is always priority along with redoing our old format. But being a dj myself I understand u need those classics.

That wasn't our first post of gangstarr, but it was due time for another release. With all the requests we uploaded the gems we had. Btw Xtendz etc coming next week.

You'll see more Crooklyn soon, sometimes we just get carried away and post to many at one time but that's how we do it. When there isn't much new videos we focus on Crooklyn and recureents/oldschool.

Charlie actually your last login to Smash was October 10th 2009...so that's a little over 6 months ago, appreciate the love though.

lmfao

Charlie actually your last login to Smash was October 10th 2009...so that's a little over 6 months ago, appreciate the love though.


Luv ya charlie no homo

hey in his defence 6 months of no smash probably feels like 2 years......

YEah very true, and I hope no one took my post as bashing smash because quite frankly they got the game on lock and their quality is top notch. Shit, I've stepped up my editing because of them, no more 640x480 for ws footage.

If I had a t-shirt of smashvidz, I'd wear it at gigs.

Nah not at all. And shirts coming soon.

Awesome.

You guys have came a long way since the sample I got of 50 Cent I Get money. I think it was an avi even.
That was before vsl even dropped

Haha that shits funny, we did avi and mp4 because of the limted h.264 support in vdj at the time. It played divx smooth as balls though (if u shave'm)

I think I still have that file somewhere.

ya ya ya... jk lol

i got mine on lock...

T.M.I.

ima have to check em out. Im currently on xtenda. They have awesome quality and nice intros. Cant go wrong with the word smash in your name. LOL DJ Smash Face, Smash Burger & now smash vidz. Sounds like a porn site lol

Hahahaha...Marx just checkin to see if you were monitoring. You know we go back like 4-5 years and I've always sung your praises. However, maybe I tried to login last October but I know my script wasn't active than so I doubt I downloaded any vids (aka vidz). I'm broke dog. Once the cord got caught I lost my VIP status and Marco treated my like an ugly duckling...Haha. Crush, I'm on it G. I've got to get down to there soon. Been over a year. Tell my homies I said hi.

bring it on Charlie... See ya soon...

Sorry if ya broke man, but bandwith cost money. I gave u vip access for as long as I could.

Only one in the game that sounds like a porn site & that's not us hehe.

i wud like to see the tags removed

Won't ever happen, it's one crucial part of promoting the video. But there is some minor changes that will be happening to the chyrons in the near future....y'all will see soon.

yeah chyrons removed would be nice, but theirs isn't that bad compared to some and their quality is so good that if they didn't have chyrons you would see or not see all of their edits on other sites, with other dj's names on em.

Marx you need to re-edit the telephone edits, they contain product placements all the way through, people may get the wrong idea and buy something as a result, please re-edit them without the product placements!

Apart from this SV rock, thanks.

It would be nice to see what selections that they have before signing up.

Justin, there's like 500 videos on there. Of a variety of genres (a bit light on rock/country). If you can't get your money worth on a 3-month subscription, you aren't playing popular music.

Well 500 videos may seem like a lot but since I have been using PromoOnly for the last 6 years...I have a lot already.

Knowing what the listing is would either allow me to plug holes or perhaps get some better mixes.

country? name one pls....maybe im not onto this new genre of country that I dont know of.

i think ur confusing us for someone else.

lmfao

lmafao....@

he'll release that right after their new series of vids called "clean unmarked master copies".....

Yeah Marx I was joking. I never expected you to ever post a country video.

Anyhow Justin, I have plenty of PO videos, but half of them looking garbage next to SV's quality. Even with proper encoding they still can't compare. It's worth having a SV account simply to replace the garbage videos from PO you already have.

OMFG I keep forgetting your Benny C!

man u need to make a new login

For me SV is all about mixability and playability, i.e extends/remixes with properly mastered audio, PO doesn't provide me with an end product.

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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I didn't want to turn this into a debate over quality...I was just looking for a listing of their video selections without paying for it.

The listing is new music that needs to be promoted :-)

on a timely basis.

Its cheaper than the PO Express, but come just as quickly with edits (Intros/Outros & Snipz (my fav). Clean & Dirty version.

I use P.O. to fill in the missing spots. Not the other way around ;-)

SV is da shiz!

i get videos from all over and sv is some of the best over all.


what's funny is when you find a vid with a 32 beat intro and a 64 beat outro.

i would actually love to see more remix services audio being used,
like it or not but typically ARE more dj friendly...

^+1
Also would like to see more dance/house (fist pump) music videos, like Beatport tracks!


I was getting the PO Express prior to knowing about SmashVidz. No more PO Express!

3x on the t shirt :)

+1

provided they ARENT ultimix/funkymix style.
32x2 with that cheesy 2nd 32.

even if were Fat tracks, select mix, top secret...ya know simple..
I have a friend who ONLY uses the bigger remix sevvices, his mixes sound
soooo bland and lifeless.

+1 on the "fist pump" tracks (videos)

I know you are kidding... ... I hope

you know it

yeah i was on express too then canceled and went to smash

LMAO...that's what I'm saying.

Smash is on point with new stuff that's hot.

this is usually done with more uptempo tracks to allow a longer smoother mix :-) But there is another cue point at 32 so you can mix from there too if ya need to.



always something going on, so ya never know.



working on it, slowly but surely

We thank you all for your support!

3xl

I am wondering who always puts up the latin tracks? I keep em in my crates but know i won't play em.

keep all genre coming I play them all!!!

well, yea ok, i can see why the outro would allow for a longer mix but shouldn't the intro be longer too for a longer mix as well.
but i am not sure what you mean about "another cue point at 32 so you can mix from there too". i am confused there..on the outro? cuz if the extra cue point is at 32 on the intro (in a 32 beat intro song) that would be probably right when the mix should be cut at the end of the intro.

idk, but to me having a song with a 32 beat intro and the SAME song having a 64 beat outro just makes no sense. it was an uptempo song at the start and it's an uptempo song at the end. i can't be the only one finding this odd. can i?
this must be a new standard for remixes and edits that i am not used to.



anyway...
my biggest complaint in the video world is lack of consistency.
intros outros are aaaaaall over the place.
with most remix services for audio (method, blank, lethal, fat, top) you pretty much know the ins and outs are going to be a set length with no bshit, making a clean easy cut or mix...i like that...and yes, a monkey could mix those tracks but when you know how to use them they makeup a killer set.

sound wise my mp3 mixes were better/cleaner...why? because they were and are better quality edits being made. these should be the ones used for videos.
to clean up my act i have to redo hundreds of videos. my back log of edits is 200-300 deep.

as far as funkymix, some tracks are full of crap at the intro.
but what they really had that was great was a nice break right in the middle in case you wanted to get out early. wish more people did that.

don't take that as a knock on smashvids btw...just putting my biggest gripe out there that video services should be considering.






i keep them and have begun playing them.
i have no idea what they are saying but some of the tracks are great.
oddly enough people are starting to get to know a few of the songs i play and have begun asking for them. "do you have that one spanish song you played last week?"

Many many reasons m8. Me personally I dont mind having an extra 8 bars a the end. But your right it isn't a one size fits all. But that's how music is.

But for the most part 95% of the time its 8bar in an out. That's the defenition of a tru xtendz, when we made up the name anyway. But some like u say are a hair different, but its a bonus and I can't see how it could effect anyones dj performence in a negative way.

roger that and very true.



gotcha...good point



i wasn't specifically talking about sv videos. your stuff is fine for the most part...just over all
if i run across something in particular i will post it.

Ya that I can't speak for homie :-)

marx,

Maybe you didn't see my earlier request. Any chance of posting what videos you have on your site?

^they pretty much have damn near everything that gets airplay (and some that don't) with the exception of some, in my words, white top 40.
They got urban top40 on lock.

Ya what he said, hehe

Two thumbs up here. Quality is tits and tagging is minimal, barely noticeable. Also the selection of new material is on point. Good work Marx.

"white top 40" lmao.
Why was this the first thing that came to mind? hahaha
Watchwww.youtube.com

^exactly.

I need to make an edit to the 50cent/biggie release track on there.

Damn I already signed up to Xtenda, Oldschoolvidz & bought a bunch of stuff off StrictlyHits, now I'm thinking about canceling Xtenda and going to Smash. Thoughts?

Xtenda = more of a variety of material, but not as high quality as smash.
Smash = best quality out there, but mainly the new stuff, with some throwbacks when there is a slow down in new stuff.
Oldschoolvidz = pretty much only old school stuff and fills in where all others miss, but no new stuff (hence the name)
Strictlyhits = great remixes, mashups, stuff you won't find anywhere and obviously not a pool, but a pay per video site.

Yourremix.com

I still dont understand why people would go this OR that.

why not have both?
it shouldnt break your bank.

even if your only gigging one night a week.
thats still AT LEAST 1200.00 A MONTH.
And to think you cant re-invest 200 of it back into content?

this is the same thing as the CDJ vs TT argument.
people were so hell bent on either your ONE OR THE OTHER.
why not be proficient on both, then when the times right and u have some income
you can buy one to augment your rig for 3 inputs.
I love CDJs for live trickery, the signal is so strong, theres no flutter, u can lay acapellas and forget them.
I love vinyl... its just what I like.

So, why cant people use all the services?
Im not going to stranglehold my creativity and musical depth for 20.00 a week.

I guess thats just the old dog in me.

i think your really overestimating what some of us make a night...not all of us but def some

Yes, I get paid in Gum.

Thanks djpuma.

Joshua, I'm mostly a bedroom dj, I get gigs once in a while but not near enough for me to justify spending money on more than a couple pools a month. I have other expenses in my life so I would rather just seek out the few better pools and just subscribe to them rather than joining every pool imaginable like some of you guys who take it more seriously and make more money.

i think i have about 10 or so sources for video.
sticking to one pool doesn't fill all my needs.

unless they give me everything i need i am not marrying one chick.

I'm the same way, I don't gig weekly, but I like to have all the goodies and be ready for it.

I have smash, and edit my own and I still find myself missing some of the other stuff. You have to have a couple just to be safe.

if i had to pick ONE, it would be sv

[quote
sticking to one hole doesn't fill all my needs.

unless they give me everything i need i am not marrying one chick.

whoa

fail......

womp

Canadians never get anything right, unless its on ice

and they cant even get that right! GO PENS!

I strongly agree....



you should see my igloo

homo.

My thoughts...

Xtendamix:

Plus: Good selection of hard to get tracks. They really do track some rarities down and are very open to suggestions.
Minus: Really didn't know what they were doing as far as rendering early on. This is being changed but still not the greatest quality.

Smashvidz:

Plus: Amazing video quality and great selection of new tracks. Older and Crooklyn videos thrown in as bonuses for members.

Minus: Some of the audio intros are medicore and some of the dance remixes selected for videos aren't the greatest.

OldSchoolVidz:

Haven't tried them but heard from a friend that some of the videos are tagged with other companies logos so I can only assume it's mainly a bootleg site. I may be wrong though.

Strictlyhits.com

Plus: Pretty good video remixes. They get a lot of stuff early. Not a great video quality as Smash but still pretty good.

Minues: A little pricey on some of their remixes. Website looks like it is from 2000 rather then 2010.

Yourremix

Haven't purchased anything from there as most of the audio mixes they make videos for are not that great. Video remixes are okay

Crooklynclan

Plus: Pretty dope video remixes. Quality is good.

Minus: Annoying chyrons.

New site, Virtual Remixes, using them weekly, intro offer, very cheap!!! No tags, high quality, i'm sold. one of a kind stuff and they've done requests and personalized drops for my shows. Pretty new concept. I like them alot. Great selection and top of the heap remixers.

How much are you getting paid from them?

hahaha, I paid them for a subscription...

I would join if I saw some better samples. The stuff they have up now is pretty corny.

Yeah, I saw that. I knew some of the remixers and signed in without checking it out. I'll send them a message and tell them to add more examples. I think that's good advice to them.

Just sent a message. We'll see if I hear back..

DJ Di,

This is the second time that you've chimed in in a discussion to sing the praises of a paid service. The first time was here serato.com / scratchlive.net which, incidentally, was your very first post on this forum.

It's therefore very hard to believe that you're not in some way associated with this commercial operation, and that means that you are in effect advertising which we don't allow on this forum.

Please refrain from using this forum to promote your business.

Sorry, I was just talking to someone talking to me. Actually own a Performing Arts School for 20 years. I didn't know I was doing anything wrong. I thought it was an open forum.

open forum yes, but ChrisD has a point, if your first post on here is about a service you just got it seems little fishy.

I'll check them out, but there is only one site I know of that doesn't use chryons, logos, or anything, except in the beginning and I don't need to say their name.

sorry, I'll be more careful. I was answering to what remix service to your use. I work in the kid business/entertainment world.

haha that sample of black eyed peas into 50 cent was bad. I mean yeah the video was ok, but when 50 comes in the vocals don't match the mouth moving on screen and when the outro comes in it's the same thing mouths moving over beats is a no no for any video remix.

Good for your average remixer, but not something you'd expect to see on a site for sale.

Di, do you have a website, facebook, myspace.

Im sure the powers that be would be a little more tolerant if you had an identity like every other DJ/business owner on the planet.

www.copelandmills.com

I going to go out on a limb and assume your Diane?

That is correct

So, do you use virtual dj or ssl/vsl?

Show Director, Artistic Direction, Music Technician, Promotions, Dance Choreographer, Marketing, Show and Event designer, etc.

Working with VDJ since Jan. The video shows work really great with live performance and several DJs enjoy working with it for lots of the entertainment I use. I think Serato is good for standard operation, I like the bells and whistles of VDJ. Again, only an opinion and personal preference. However, it is taking quite a while to learn to feel comfortable without concentrating so much. I haven't had a lot of time training on it, hahahah. I have others doing it for me. :)

Welcome to the forums.

:)

I didnt happen to see DJ/VJ in there...

dont get me wrong, but I dont see how a 50+ year old woman with no obvious experience in video or DJ ing has any grounds to recomend one service OVER another.
Im not saying YOU CANT... but I am saying that its an unsupported claim.

[Seeing how the thread is about smashvidz...and the people that chimed in, chiimed in on a few services]


again dont confuse this with "hate"
but if you were looking to hire a dance choreographer how much weight would you put in the opinion of someone doing it for 3 months who hasent danced with anyone except 1 brand new dance troop (and a questionable one at that.)

larry d own that website BTW. I believe they're in cahoots and would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those darn kids.

You missed the part about I have people doing it for me...Sometimes you earn the right to direct and get out of the trenches...I've actually been in the business for 35 years. Someone asked for my business website. I was prompted by a another post, I didn't start anything.

Whew, it feels like you all need my resume...hahahahha. I'll stay off the forums if my opinions cause stress...I love talking the business, if anyone wants to talk more, just let me know. :)

thats the catch here... its not ALL BUSINESS for us here...
and we dont take kindly to ones rouse to get people to join a site and think we're
not quick enough to not see obvious "cahoots" with the company...

its bordering insulting.

I love the business I'm in, not too many can say they love their job. I don't know anyone in the music business that does not LOVE their job. No cahoots, no insults. Just love my job.

No problem with that...it's just that "your job" on this forum seems to be generating business for a website that you have an interest in.

Bye.

DJ Di has posted in like 4 different areas including in the general DJ discussion under legal sources for MP3's for this site...

so yeah ... she REALLLLY likes the site and wants EVERYONE to know about it...

i just can't get passed the absolute cheesiness of the virtualremix enough to even consider subscribing. the thought of seeing that each time i went dload videos absolutely PAINS me.

+1

if u check out Larry's mix it has a few mixes from virtual remixes.

and not to take anything away from the mix it self, its very good
good mix of tounge-in-cheek bits and solid transitions and such especially for the
mobile beat crowd (to who the mix is aimed it)
Ill take that over some of these promos that are 3 hours of intro/outro mixing.

but you can spot the virtual mixes because they all have either filled borders
on the top & botton, or even on the RIGHT AND LEFT!
filled with backgrounds comparable to the promo only ambients

Watchwww.youtube.com
3:23 6:14 7:10

reminds me of a poster I had from high school of an alien that said,"take me to your dealer" black light poster.

yeah, after getting ivtc and the proper aspect resolution of ws videos, I hate seeing that extra crap on videos now.
Too little too late though because I am not going back through my videos and redoing them all.

does anyone have smashvidz and 8th wonder (aka videotoolz)??

I just checked out smashvidz and it seems like they are very similar to 8th wonder.

what.... serious?

i have them both, SV is MUCH better quality, 8th is better for quantity

thanks Bezzle

thats why i stopped usign 8th so much, id come in at the end of the day and there would be like 300 new vids, most were offkey crappy audio mashups id never use and didnt have time to preview, also the specs of the video were so low they were almost unuseable, SV on the other hand had high quality video edits, awesome audio and onlty about 50 a week but they would all be 50 i would acutually use

I wouldnt even go as far as saying better for quantity....
every video I get from smash I KEEP.
75% of what i get from videotoolz I delete (or prefer the video that DTV/SV/Xtenda made)

there are a few mixers keeping my supscription active @ videotoolz...

alot of people who are newer to the scene are often kinda smitten with videotoolz out
of the gate... but them after a few months of seeing what the other services look like
on their screens they understand (myself included)
and eventually everyone comes to the same conclusion

this just sounded like an info-mercial!! LOL...

but seriously.. thanks for the good comparison info!

EXACTLY LOL

comparing smash to 8th is like comparing apple to, well you know what I mean.

You've never seen a smashvid with a poorly cropped po video to hide their chyron in 09 or 10.

I pay for smash and know their stuff is on point and when I login on thursdays I know there will be tons of new goodies to fill my crates with for the weekend and I love the fact that they got the unofficial videos. I used drake and weezy's im goin in and tpain kiss her and the crowd didn't even know it wasn't real.

Are smash videos mash-up's or just extended versions?

Yeah the unofficial I'm goin' in & also steady mobbin' have come in handy. I wish they would make more "unofficial vidz" ....call it unofficialz or something. They ought to do classics too...ones that we are sure have no existing videos......Dr Dre - Explosive (for example).
A lot of time was spent making the Ludacris - how low (unofficial vid) & it was very good too but then a week later the real vid was out. I think the time spent making an unofficial vid should be spent on classics that have no vid anywhere not a current hit that might have the real vid come out in another weeks time.

At Justin:Some mashups but mostly extended intro & outro (XTENDZ), single (dirty & clean), acappella in (BLEN-X-IN), acapella out (BLEN-X), short 1 verse edit (SNIPZ) & occasional "UNOFFICIALZ"

.At Justin: ................Of the Original Versions that is.

just in any given release you usually get:

single (Clean and dirty
Xtended (clean & dirty)
Snipz (Clean & dirty)
Blenx (in or out)
acapella.

not for every video will you get all 6-10 versions... but a fair amaoung

I personally don't download snipz or blenx anymore. Snipz for sure, they take up too much space and I can just use an extend on the next track if I want to use a one verse edit, plus, sometimes I load the snipz without realizing it and I have to scramble for the full version and drop it on the 2nd verse or just mix out of it if I realize it too late.

There was one point in time where the didn't put [single] [snipz] or [xtendz] in the title and I would have to find the grouping column to figure out which version was which.

I think they realized that pretty quick and changed up the scheme.

Thanks DJ/VJ Graham. I actually just tried to sign up but I couldn't determine if their payment server was on a secure network (https:/) or not.

it's an approval type process. they screen every applicant and dont allow "instant access" like other sites........

yep, they gotta make sure you are "kool"...if you spike your hair and mention ed hardy it helps.

I don't like the unofficial vidz. They look tacky. Now on the other hand some dude made an edit for Eazy-E "Boyz in the Hood" and that's one of the best unofficial vidz I've ever seen. He did a good job and I play that one quite a bit. But I think that's a rare instance. Most of them look tacky to me and I'd rather just play the song with a generic clip of break dancers or something or even my logo. IMO

Really Steve? I like them a lot. They're better than a shadow dancer or my logo.

yeah they make a visual conection with the artist there may be times when the crowd may not know the artist but when they see them BAM!!! That's if they know what the artist lokks like ha...

connection sry

+1

yeah very true, I dropped winner this weekend and some chick asked for TI winner, I said no jamie foxx, but I had just the clubs logo and it wasn't as cool as an unofficial

They actually wanted the payment before I was approved. I didn't really care about that. I do care about sending credit card info over unsecured servers however.

Not saying that their's was unsecure...There pop-up window just prevented me from finding that out.

Just my opinion, I can't stand the artist rapping and the words not matching. Reminds me of when I went to some bowling alley that had a DJ and some other guy playing videos trying to match what the DJ was playing but even though it was the same artist it was a completely different video.

paypal is what I use.

To Steve Dub:

You would have to see one of their unofficial vidz. It is so cleverly done...they do not show a 20 second footage where U can see the mouths not in sync with the audio. They use split second video snipz, the artists gesturing at the exact point in the audio where a particular lyric is emphasized etc etc, close ups & other concepts to make it look like a real video. I honestly forgot that the Ludacris video was not the real one...iwas quite good & is a shame that a week later the real vid came out. They don't do a lot of unofficial vidz but the few that they have done are real good. It's nt what U think but its best seen (a picture is woth a thousand words type of concept)

He has a smash account.

To DJ/VJ Graham

I have a smash account, been with them forever, I know exactly what the unofficial vidz look like. I stated my opinion. Period.

And I still thing smash is #1, that's why I'm still with them. For new shit nobody is fukin with them.

thing = think

I don't even play the official video version of "I am the ish"... I play the SmashVidz unofficial version... but better... more entertaining.

Okay Steve......I did not know U had an account. U described what sounded like mouths that are not in Sync with the music:

"I can't stand the artist rapping and the words not matching"

since U have seen the unofficial videos & that is your description/opinion of them I can respect your opinion while disagreeing. It's a matter of taste & perception. I would choose a well done unofficial video over an ambient anyday...but that is just my opinion. Forgive me for assuming that from the way you described the videos...you must not have an account. That is my error.

words not matching...I get what U are saying now....it is in sync but U can tell the word the mouth is pronouncing is not the word in the actual audio. I agree that one can tell but I still think it's better than an ambient video. Once again, I can respect other peoples opposing views/opinions.

Payment info....it doesn't get more secure then Paypal buddy :-)

UnO's will keep coming. Its hard to know, sometimes they shoot these things undercover & you don't know the real release date. "I'm going in" is a perfect example....that shit was supposed to be shot over 5 months ago or what ever....Drake hurt his leg blah blah. Just because they booked it doesn't mean shitz. So yes...we plan on doing older classics that never even had a video done before.....but you will see more UnO's done without a doubt....hopefully plenty time before it even becomes a hit & a video treatment is even made :-)

Actually paypal doesn't give you any of the normal credit card protections...especially on recurring charge transactions. That's why I never use it for things like this.

they bill me monthly with paypal and I doubt i'd ever want to challenge it saying I don't want the service.

What are the best pay services next to PayPal?

cash.

hahaha, got it!!
I was just wondering what other company is out there besides Pay Pal. I subscribe to several services and it's PayPal that is their pay source. Just wondering if there are other options.

Exactly what I meant and I have no problem with other guys liking these vidz. They're just not for me personally. Different strokes.

Paypal seems much easier and safer than dropping my credit card info.

It's actually not...but everyone does things differently. :)

I'd prefer to have a little chip in my arm to charge shit, but them mofuckas will start chopping arms off for the info.

lol

how so

if you really concerned about it get a money mart credit card(pay as you go) so you can just add your monthly pool fees on time every month and leave it with a zero balance afterwards that way if someone gets your info there is no balance and cant be used....

Paypal is a middleman but no matter what you can still contest things with your credit card company and 9 times out of 10 they side with the purchaser. I have gone through enough disputes through my own businesses and ebay to know that the seller gets the short end of the stick most of the time.

+1

I feel pretty good with PayPal too. I know there are several checks and balances and notifications that keep you in the loop of what is happening with your credit card whenever it is used with PayPal. I was just wondering if there is another service out their that is preferred by customers.

Google Checkout is also a choice.

Have you used it before ?

I have, a wholesale DJ gear company and I do business that way...a few dozen times and no issues...

Thanks, I'll check it out. I'm looking for a pay system other than PayPal, good rates and secure. I hear lots of negatives about PayPal and some that won't pay any other way. Just seeing what else is out there.

or if you are legit business then use a merchant account and accept all credit cards.

I didn't know if Pay Pal and Google Pay would be less expensive.

I didn't read the whole thread trough, but I absolutely agree with the title, that SmashVidz is the best video service out there!!

For the credit card vs Paypal issue, paypal is easier. The merchant services charge $50 or so per month as a fee, plus 3% of transactions. Paypal is also 3% of transactions, so the two options are pretty similar. The address you submit for credit cards, has to match exactly to the letter, the one that is on the statement. If you are one letter off, it declines. So for security purposes, it's better than paypal and not everyone has a paypal account. Some DJs want to write the pool off, so they can with credit cards easier than paypal because you get a statement. Plus, if a user disputes, they usually get their money back with the credit card companies, so they feel more secure as well.

Finally, the biggest advantage to credit cards is that the bigger companies who purchase multiple accounts and sign for 3-6 months at a time don't use paypal. So you can run transactions in the thousands no problem and without credit cards, you might miss out on those.

If you can, use both. Not all users have one or the other.

I prefer the barter system...haha

Thanks for the opinions. It makes since to have more than one option.

I just applied to smash vidz, how long does it take to for you guys to get back about the application? I'd like to get some videos before tomorrow night if that's possible.

I use to use to get express video and hot video and club video from promo only until I found out about smash vidz the best decision I ever made to switch. I only get po club video because of all the house music

Yeah, I'm thinking of getting the PO Club Video or Hot Video for the House Videos. How is it? I used to get the PO Express!

I just wish Smash Vidz had more house. Maybe when I get my FCP & Ableton I'll be able to help out or something. Working with Premiere now. Only because I've been using Audition for the past 7 yrs.

It's not that great but the only option I know of to get House music. I don't like the quality compared to smash vidz, smash vidz looks and sounds perfect, po not that great

Is SmashVidz really legit and 100% legal? Why is it that a company like Promo Only can't offer extended intros on their videos and SmashVidz can? I asked PO about this a while ago and they said that the labels would not allow it. Even Xtendamix says that they can't make intros from certain labels because they don't allow it. If that is true, how does SmashVidz get away with this? The other thing I wonder is why do they have terms like the crooklyn clan site?
"...you must have in your possession the original works contained in the videos you obtained..."
If that is in the terms, then every VJ that downloads videos are breaking the terms once they get a new video that isn't anywhere else. Is this just used to cover their ass?
Seems like everyone is on the SmashVidz bandwagon in this thread so I'll probably get a bashing for asking but I just wondered about that.

I wouldnt go as far as calling it a bandwagon.
that implies its the cool thing for the moment warranted only by what others are saying.

when in fact its because they have unmatched quality, content and consistency.


as far as legality.
I say get the get while the gettins good...theres always rumors.

i have alot of MTV on VHS ;)

of you really wanna get into legistics pretty much all dj mixtapes are illegal

Nobody here knows the answer to that question, just as nobody here knows whether any other site or service is 100% legal unless they are directly involved with the legalities of the company concerned, send them an E-mail if it concerns you, I'm sure they'll be happy to respond.



Actually promo only did offer such a service at one stage, which they say was abandoned due to a lack of support (from customers), this was at a time when the only way to mix video was if you owned a set of DVJ's, today anyone with a laptop can mix videos.



The question assumes that these companies share the same objectives, and also assumes a level playing field, which I'm afraid in this business doesn't exist.

PO have made their millions mainly in video distribution and don't appear to have an interest in the market niche of video remixing for VJ's (at the moment), although they do edit video remixes for TV.

Xtendamix are a new kid on the block, the name is a bit of a giveaway as to their purpose and their service they say is limited to the borders of Canada, and as such one would assume they deal with labels within Canada (not the US), their format not long ago included titling videos with adverts for ring tones which they said was a label requirement, which soon became a non requirement as it was found to be bad for business.

Smashvidz has been around for some years now, they've always been a video editing/remix service (not a distribution service), their dealing with labels will have always centered around this, they will have had to persuade them that having VJ's manipulate their videos on big screens in the US would be good for business, and indeed that custom edits, remixes and remastering would be needed to make it work.

Today SV leads in this area within the US, it's now clear that not having your videos on SV is a bad idea on the grand scheme of things, so much so that the Black Eyed Peas featured a SV video remix of "Imma Be" on their own homepage so it's fair to say that SV have done well out of this niche, having the direct support of the biggest band in the world today among many others.

The labels can give what they want to whom they want and how they want, they don't have their own set of rules as to how they negotiate terms, this is a game and it would be naive to believe that the labels aren't playing it.

what he said.

that's what she said!

I was with you until...

On what planet are BEP a band?

hahahahahahaha

haha - "group" would be more appropriate, but I have seen them reffered to as a band in some contexts, perhaps because Will I. Am is a multi instrumentalist, get one of the others on the bongo drums or triangle and there you have a band by definition...

jingle frisbee!

fergie on the cowbell !!!

I'm getting to the point where I think I'm going to stop playing their godawful garbage "music".

wow... read alot of the comments... too much to read..

I just wanna give a public shoutout.

I ditched 8thwonder and my12inch for SVZ... Marx and the team are the Sh*t..

It's like he said, new releases are priority but they hit us with classics & oldskool from the late 80s,90s, & 2000 almost every update which is badass.. I personally want all the favorites of every year. For a all around DJ it's all needed. And SVZ is the only way to go.

Quality cannot be duplicated. I tried and gave up LOL i'm good on chilling and paying for more and more SVZ to be released.

Thanx

Try [link removed]

doesnt take you long to jump on the promo band wagon after youve already been told to chill on the ads.......

DJ Di says:


wow.... seriously.. again....

It is making more and more hard to believe that you don't work for them or you ARE them...

i can NOT take that site seriously...
there's a ton of sites out there that have nice clean, non-cheese, templates for you. that site seriously hurts to look at.
i don't know when that design was badass but it was probably passe months before i turned 8 and years before i drank or smoked anything that would make me just dumb enough to consider for a moment that it's good.
soooo hideous, neon and aliens is the old stupid and you made it the new ghey. congratulations!

please do a redesign, Dj Di.

Site is horrible, video edits are subpar.

And please stop trying to act cool and than proceed to get info about paypal vs google checkout vs credit cards.

For anyone new to this thread they're not talking about Smashvidz.

:)

OK, that's it DJ Di - I warned you and now here you are again promoting a service.

Your very first post was a blatant plug: serato.com

A short time later you jumped in to a long established discussion and again only mentioned the same service: serato.com

Then, again, you jumped in to an existing discussion a again mentioned the very same service: serato.com

You clearly have no interest in the community here except to exploit it for own commercial gain.

You're banned.

hahahaha

You know what really gets me? When SmashVidz came out a lot of "VJs" were talking sh** about them so I didn't really care to use the service. Then once a lot of "VJs" started passing the stuff around (a.k.a free P2P), a lot of "VJs" started to say good things about them. I for one have the service (even tho I can get them free). I'll most likely go back to promoonly cuz I like to make edits, but the service is REALLY dope!

TMI

anyway, did someone mention the tags are the shit?? once you donload the file you can just dump it in a creat and boom, dont_need_togetridof_all_them-lines!! even CC (which i like too, tag the files in a very stupid way, the dj name first wtf? when i browse my files do i need to remember who edit the video? lets not mention 8 WONDER WITH THE CAPS, bottom line smash is the shit, IMO the best way to tag a song is like smash (hope the rest of the editors are taking notes)

name of the artist - name of the song (editor) (sigle,snipz.extendz etc) clean

Lady Gaga ft Beyonce - Telephone (Kaskade Remix) [Club] - Clean

my $ 00.02

BANNED. i love those words when its not directed towards me LOL

Tmi?

yeah it's like saying you know where to score crack. We all know where to get it, but we don't talk about it.

^^^ lol nah man I don't know where to get crack... I just say no.... Well never been offered, but you get the point ; )

first rule of video club... errr... I mean fight club

TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!

it means:


too many idiots...

or

the man infected

or

terrific mistress inside

or

there's many insects

or

tiny monitor included

it means:


That Man Isghey

"Isghey" isn't a word. . . What does that mean?

Just subscribed to Smashvidz. I'm pretty pleased except.

1. The majority of the remix/mashups are just dance remixes or bpm transitions. Not a bunch of true mashups.

2. Thats it! Smashvidz is the sickness!

Mashups only get posted on crooklynclan.

I have yet to check that out. I'll see whats up.

Where they fucking belong too.

Smash is kewl!

www.crooklynclan.net

I think that's the answer to your question...hehe

just re-joined smashvidz (was a member back in 2008)
I'm doing lots more video gigs these days so worth re-joining the service now...

has improved lots since I was last a member and the downloads are super fast now too...
really loving the new preview option.

not loaded any new vidz on serato yet to compare the quality against 8thwonder vidz.

more bathroom breaks!

there is no comparison against 8th wonder.
They surpass them by miles. Smash over 8th anyday

hahahahahahahahahahaha you cant tell just by the previews that 8th is trash compared to smash.....

My only gripe with Smash has been a lack of a proper search function. You can only see a list of all the vidz but you cannot search for a specific song or artist.

Yea I'd like to see this.

Ctrl F or Apple F and you can search the entire list.
Any old stuff is in the old format which they are slowly, but surely replacing.

I'd like to see more white top 40. I don't spin it that much, but I'm trying to broaden my horizons a little bit and some KissFm club tracks would be nice.

puma, that's exactly why i still need 8th wonder or xtendamix. they have more "white top40." smashvidz is pretty much 90% urban (hip hop/r&b). sure you might get a katy perry or 3oh3 track once in a while, but you can't do a 2 hour set of "white top40" from their videos. lots of clubs around my area are strict about no hood music. i can't play gucci, lil wayne, etc, it's simply not allowed.

I'll have to look into extenda and I can get my own po videos and crop out the logo, so 8th is out.

+10 That's one of the main reasons I'm thinking about going back to promoonly. I hate having to look thru everything to find what I'm looking for . . .

Gotta try that.

And just wait guys real real soon you won't believe the site.... Searchablity is one of the key functions in the upcoming site amongst other things... patience is a virtue...

Just tell me what TNS stands for.

I know it's where you take a standard 4x3 and make it 16x9 (which I prefer), but I can't figure out what {tns} means

Too nasty stretch
The new stretch
titties n socks
tatas nalgas sesos.

Tilt & stretch
ie
Pan and scan

Tilt and scan.

No stretching goin on here

Or new engine is very nice but similar to what we have now (so y'all don't get lost) Currently were still tweaking it with filtering and checkmarks....yes checkmarks, ull see a beta by June. Once we launch we will take feedback and change anything that doesn't make sense or a bug we didn't catch. But its a big step forward.

I thought they didn't looked stretched. like the virtual insanity looked real good.

When I see both I don't download the 4x3 since I prefer the TNS versions.

thats what I meant...dun.
hence the pan & scan

Big difference between stretch and scan :-)

Its nice to hear that puma!

how about:

"T"hey dropped a "S"hitload of videos today on Smash.... wow.

marx?
checkmarks?
please explain...

i hope this isnt a watermark. im gonna fuckin shoot myself

watermark hehe no buddy.

a check mark to know what you already downloaded :-)

also loving the pre-built overviews on the vidz too....

THANK YOU.

My number one gripe is you guys put up say. Usher - my boo single last month or whenever and then you get the xtendz, snipz, acap... up today.

I don't remember which ones I've downloaded so, I always get doubles and since I don't always put my smash vidz in one big folder, I won't know they are doubles until I see them in itunes or search my computer.

organize that ish :P

puma hehe

haha.

It's hard to organize when you get like 50 plus videos and gotta toss them in the crates and get ready.

Every once in a while I will go through my crates by artist and see the doubles and delete the older or lower quality version.

I like Smash. Aside from the obvious (video/audio quality), I'm also impressed with the little things, like their file-naming syntax - clean, efficient, spelled correctly, proper capitalization, etc. I have yet to receive a file that looks like an 8th grader tagged it (see: Cutt, DJ). Good stuff. Shows they take pride in their work.

Note: I'm a mild mannered tech writer by day, so crappy presentation gives me convulsions.

One thing: on occasion, an Xtendz version is rolled out on songs that already have usable intros (i.e. LL Cool J "Doin' It", Mary J Blige "Family Affair"). Maybe use the time and resources towards songs that need actual work? Just a humble suggestion.

+1 so one of the things that locked me into smashvidz was when i was with 8th wonder NOTHING was tagged close to right, id download like 200 songs drop em in SL and find out that all info was in track name and i had to go through and do extra work to erase the artist name from track name, put artist name in artist field, remove underscores ect ect.....SmashVids just download drop em in and im ready to play

I hate underscores, this isn't pre2000 with irc chat's going on.

we know you hate underscores djpuma_gemini!! lol

lol

thats from 07 and i hate it

+1,000,000,000,001

correct me if I am wrong but from my experience the underscores in file names had to be there because of limitations of files being able to be downloaded. Had that experience with graphics to work with a website design, etc.

But ... yeah... don't like the underscores in my file names...

I rename, re-tag EVERYTHING in my library anyways... so no biggie... part of my own library maintenance.

i dunno if anyone else is having an issue but since the new serato 2.0 came out ive been having to analyze smash vidz because they arent coming up with the waveforms??? anyone else having the same issue?

im the same as u al, i retag and rename every audio and video file that is incoming...its a big anal, but in the end a hella lot more organized than most cats

i like to organize my stuff as well but like someone else said after 100+ videos a week you get tired and dont have the time (besides been lazy of course =) hehe )
Anyway if everyone will name like smash does we all will be REALLY REALLY HAPPY!!
I hate cc,yourremix,sh,etc etc when it comes to naming the files!!
why use Dj name - weird song name + vj name etc etc ???
how hard is to name Artist - Song (remixer) ???
another thing i hate lately is the freaking transition videos on 8th wonder!!!!! OMG!!!
they put all the info on the video!!!!! WTF!???
people watching the video is like ooh look he is gonna transition from 130 to 74 !! shooot!!!
oh well ... lets all be happy :) hehehhee

its not 2.0 we had a internal issue. All is fixed now :-) It was going on for 2 weeks.

btw.. it would be great if u guys tagged them a little better... like so

Usher - OMG [Smashvidz Single]-clean
or if its a remix
Usher ft Will.I.Am - OMG (Almighty Remix) [Smashvidz] - Clean

or with xtendamix..

Usher - OMG {Xtendamix Single]-clean
Usher ft Will.I.Am - OMG (Almighty Remix) [Xtendamix] - Clean

i have a sub. to both of you. and it would be nice to disguinish which is which without going into the video. sometimes people download into one folder. i dont.. but when i transfer from my desktop to my mac.. i put in one folder.

please take note. thank you

I Change all the albums to the service it came from.

its would be cool, if the VJ comminuty could vote on one column that services
HAVE to put their name.
I know Smash putsVJVIDS.
which confused me at first...

I put smashvidz in the comments or composer section.

i dont even bother.

i have the bpm in the first column, then the artist. and then the song..

in the song i would put OMG {Xtendamix Single]-clean

i think if its a smashvidz xtendz they should put something liek this

OMG [Smashvidz Xtendz]-Clean

or xtendamix..

OMG [Xtendamix Extended]
or simply
OMG [Xtendamix]

I do hate artist stuck in the beginning. When ever I see those, they usually get deleted and forgotten, but when they are in the title after the track I leave it.
Like
Usher - OMG (Clean) (DJ Puma Edit) that will stay

DJ Puma - Usher - OMG - Gets put in the trash can.

ehhh thats a little sloppy I think. But under Album Artist you can see us :-)

well.. i dont understand that.. being that u probally have every damn video known to vjs...

how do u organize them?

can u show me a screen shot ?

organization starts with the first video, audio (first file)....

I agree on more logical tagging, i.e Artist - Title (DJ X Remix)

But you should really all E-mail the video services directly, if there's enough people saying the same thing they'll listen, it's not the choice of the editor.

At Xtendamix it's all one remixer, so we don't distinguish who did the mix. As for tagging, we use the "( )" brackets, I think Smashvidz uses the "[ ]" brackets. Most Djs we talk to don't care who did the mix, if it's an extended version, so we just leave it as extended mix or single.

yeah there is no big deal to making an intro.
DMS put the remixer in the tile for an intro. Not necessary.

Only remixes should give credit to the remixer.

I actually dont mind the way smash or xtenda tags there different ways make it easy for me to do a batch file change to the way i like to organize

ie: Ludacris - How Low [Single] - Clean
will turn into: Ludacris - How Low(Sv)(Cln)

Ludacris - How Low (clean) (Single)
Ludacris - How Low(Xdmx)(Cln)

That way I know which service certain singles or extends came from....so I know how the quality is

But sites like cc I have to rename every file manually......which sucks ass it would be much easier if they put the remixers info at the end and not the beginning of the file name

or the remixer as the artists.
or somehow render the it so you cant edit it in any tagger program
or completely blank

Why don't you just delete the worst quality video to distinguish which one to play?

that's what I do.

If I have a smash edit and I made an old po intro, even though I made it, I can the po and use the smash.

if I get a smash and have a logofree tagless video, than smash goes to the trash.
Quality is a little less than smash, but I prefer the tagless, or chyron free videos.

i know for a time i was playing the smashvidz single compared to the xtendamix single(cuz of xtendamix chyrons)

but even with say kesha-blah blah blah

xtendamix had the whooole single, where as smash had the single but only from the point where the music started...

playing with D

im about to burn the house down, analyzing and didnt have my fans up and it was in the high 70s biabia

holy crap 84 LOL

you got that i7 on fire!!!

thread wrecker

its not an i7, 2.93c2duo...lol

cgi.ebay.com

while im on a jack move...check it...cheap as hell

gay.

So why don't you just delete the one you are not going to play and be done with it? I just don't understand the need for the pools to put thier name in the title to distinguish what video came from where. That's just like saying you have an audio file that has the whole song but it's 192...but I also have a a 320 that I know I won't play but I'll keep it...

+1, why have multiple copies, especially with video. That's 100Mb's or so per file of extra space wasted.

Those of us on internals or bus powered externals need that space.

Even those of us with powered externals need that space. I delete multiples like a mofo. I hate clutter. Try sorting thru a bogged down crate while tired/drunk/talking to hot chicks.

Yeah I CANNOT STAND having to rename every file. I'm a freak with my organization and prob spend hours a week just renaming other peoples work. Everything I load on Strictly Hits is 1.perfectly labeled. 2. have SSL cues, overviews, and sometimes loops built.

ok.. well

sometimes xtendamix comes out with the video first, i prefer smash, but now have the xtendamix version in my library. so now i add smashvidz into my library. now i have multiple versions.
or i have the promo only version as well..

i guess u guys just have one source. good for u.

define perfectly labeled...

everyone has a different way to do it.

I personally rename every file in library whether I got it from a pool or I ripped a DVD or I made the edit myself. Everyone of them are named in the same way. AND using the same file name method I can use Tag&Rename to put the tag info in place from the file name.

The way I do it is:

artist - title (video remixer-audio remix) (source "smashvidz, etc") (bpm) (year).mp4

example:

daft punk - one more time (double vision's edit-danny diggz rmx) (cc) (126) (2008).mp4

on transitions I do it like this:

dr. dre ft snoop dogg - next episode, the [95-120] (gregg r edit-discotech rmx) (cc) (95) (2009).mp4

all my crates are done by decade then subgenre:

[1990's]
-- [urban-rhythm]
-- [club-house-trance]

etc. etc...

been doing it like this for several years and it doesn't take as much time when you got a system..

call me anal ... but I have other DJ's use my library to play around wasn't lost at all due to me being so organized.

I guess you are assuming...good for u.

ugh.. just explaining my reasoning.

but i do hate when i buy a video from one of the pay sites, and they have the remixers name in the artist column. that is so wack. all im gonna do and im sure every dj is gonna do is rename it anyhow.

and i typically never put the name of the video remixer anywhere... just the audio remixer. i know this kind of contradicts my earlier statement with xtenda and smash thing.. but its just the way i roll i guess :/

I understand your reasoning behind what you are saying. My reasoning behind what I'm saying is that you know you have duplicates...why keep the ones you know you won't play? I can understand keeping all the source files you get on an external at home...but why keep duplicates on your gigging computer/external just so you be confused on which one to play...not unless you gig with the only drive you have for backup. But that's just me assuming..:)

because when i dump the files on the gig'n drive.. i might not have time to dump the old files. i add 50-125 new videos a week to that drive so i might get a chance to do it right away....

Understood...but if have to time notice duplicates you got time to delete. Haha

If you have the time...

Auto complete changes words like a mofo...lol

u sound liek somebodys parents

true true, and whats up with the vs.? lol

DJ Puma vs. Usher - OMG lol this aint wwf mothafucka!! LMAO

matt212...i think U are answering your own question.
You asked why not delete one of the 2 files. You also asked in another post, why have the name of the source of the file (smashvidz, Xtendamix, 8th wonder etc) in the file name.
The reason U would need the name of the source in the file name is to visually know which one to delete without opening the file to see where U got that particular video from. Remember like someone said above, when U dump 100 new files in to your hard drive....... U cannot know are U deleting a promo only file because U just got a file from xtendamix, or are U deleting a smashvidz file because U just got one from 8th wonder. The only way to know where the file was from is by actually playing the video & waiting for the chyron to appear on the screen. This is to tedious to do when U have a large number of vidz and duplicates.

I get around this by adding suffixes to the name of the file as i save it for download. The suffix tells me which site it came from. I can then delete many duplicates without having to play them. Sometimes however, U still have to play them to actually compare audio quality/video quality etc etc depending on which 2 or 3 sources U are comparing.

LOL! It's all luv...(no homo)

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if you have SV, Xtenda or 8th, etc, in the file name. You should delete the videos that you are not going to play and keep the best one....and you find that out when you actually look at the video. So basically what you are saying is that you just download, dump and go without even checking the quality of the video before you play it at your gig? Maybe it's just me, but I have to at least check it out before I play it...audio or video. How many times have you played a song labeled clean but didn't find out it was the dirty version until you hear the "F" word fly out across the speakers?



So if you just delete based on source without playing them first...you wouldn't know when stuff like this happens as Henry already pointed out..."xtendamix had the whooole single, where as smash had the single but only from the point where the music started.."


Exactly!! That's why it doesn't matter if you have all that extra stuff in the title. They can put that kind of stuff in the comment section to show the originating source...but it's not needed in the title to push the other columns in Serato off the screen just so you can read all that stuff.

Take this audio file for example....

DJ Khaled ft Ludacris, Rick Ross, Snoop Dogg and T Pain - All I Do Is Win (Clean)(Intro/Outro)(Extended)(Franchise)
DJ Khaled ft Ludacris, Rick Ross, Snoop Dogg and T Pain - All I Do Is Win (Clean)(Intro/Outro)(Extended)(DJ City)
DJ Khaled ft Ludacris, Rick Ross, Snoop Dogg and T Pain - All I Do Is Win (Clean)(Intro/Outro)(Extended)(Digiwaxx)
DJ Khaled ft Ludacris, Rick Ross, Snoop Dogg and T Pain - All I Do Is Win (Clean)(Intro/Outro)(Extended)(8th Wonder)
DJ Khaled ft Ludacris, Rick Ross, Snoop Dogg and T Pain - All I Do Is Win (Clean)(Intro/Outro)(Extended)(iDJPool)

Really? For real?? You really need something else in that title line?? Then on top off that...which one are you going to play just based on the source without listening to the them first?

Matt U noticed that I said this at the end of my previous post:

"Sometimes however, U still have to play them to actually compare audio quality/video quality etc etc depending on which 2 or 3 sources U are comparing".

We are both saying the same thing. For the most part I still play them & compare audio & video quality of 2 to 3 or even 4 different sources of the same video. However, their are some sources (I will not name them) where it is almost a foregone conclusion that I can delete them based on the fact that I just downloaded a smashvidz version. Some pools have videos with avg file size 45 to 55 mb (once again I will not mention names). I don't need to play that file to delete it.

You are right...listening to the file is the best method for everbody....I agree. The problem is the volume of vidz coming in. Their is not enough time for some deejays (depending of how many vidz they add per week, life style, jobs, family) to do all this and also to edit/remix files, make new vidz, organize crates, etc

Anyone who has as many different versions of the same video as U listed above probably intends to get around to deleting most of the duplicates at some point but until they can get to it, if they were to need to play that video at a gig (without benefit of previewing it) they would probably choose smashvidz, Xtenda or promo only. The best way to know which is which is if it is labelled upfront. I am however not advocating that the sources label it because (as I said above) I do it when I download the file. The way the sources would label it would not fit my compact style as denoted below.

By the way, mine look like this:

DJ Khaled ft. Various - All I Do Is Win (Xtendz) (FRP)
DJ Khaled ft. Various - All I Do Is Win (Xtendz) (8th)
DJ Khaled ft. Various - All I Do Is Win (Xtendz) (SV)

When i can get to it, I preview all 3 files from beginning to end. I am already biased in favor of smashvidz. the other companies have to prove me wrong when i preview them. Even if all 3 come out (to my eye) as having equal audio/video quality (unlikely scenario), I would choose the smashvidz version over the others which then get deleted. Occasionally I have preferred the Xtenda/8th/ etc to the smashvidz......usually for the intro that better fits my style but once again most of the time smash vidz comes out tops.


The absence of (XX) by default means it is clean. I don't label stuff as clean. If it's not labelled "Dirty" by having (XX) in the file name, then, by default it is clean.

(FRP) = Franchize Record Pool
(8th) = 8th wonder
(SV) = Smash Vidz
(Xm) = Xtendamix
(12) = My 12 Inch
(PO) = Promo Only
(DVS) = DJ Video Source
and if I join Oldschoolvidz then:
(OSV) = Oldschool vidz

so on & so forth.

As U can see, I think we are on the same page. where we differ is getting it done right away vesus setting aside a day every now & then & saying ...okay today I'm gonna clean things up & remove duplicates. I do this every once in a while. Until I do it, I know the duplicates by virtue of the suffixes I have attached.

^^ versus

the only thing that bugs me is a bunch of underscores...
i could care less what label it is...
i rarely care who did the remix...
i only care who did the video if i am friends with them or know them...
except for dj cutt, magic man and johnny rocket. it helps to know so i can delete them...

no one can have a perfect tag since i change them anyway.

Lol...we are basically saying the same thing Graham. I just don't think the source is needed in the title. Either way it's going to be more for work for somebody. The next thing you know, some people gonna want the date the video was shot along with what type of camera was used to shoot the video and whether the source file was from a retail DVD, iTunes, a Bitmax file, a old VHS rip or a digital file straight from the label itself all in the title. Just keep all that extra stuff in other fields for the people that just want basic file tagging shown in their library.

vs is used to describe a mash up... 'x' artist vs 'x' artist... That's common industry knowledge.

and basically xtendamix might have a just a little bit different of an audio intro than smash.. it works good with some mixes.. and maybe smash works better with others..

i feel liek im talkin to people that just dont know

Your right Matt...everyone would want a different qualifier/description in the file name & we can't please everyone....thats why I do it for myself & just add the suffix as I d/l the file & save to my computer

This is true, but it has also evolved to show the artist of the song and the audio remix artist. This kind of helps with the extra fields and still makes sense. Maybe Smash was the first to use this method, maybe it will be the last, but it makes sense all around.

wow really? i would never figure that out,thanks!! lol

what im saying is, why bother taggin videos like that when 99% will retag them and delete the video or remix editor, if you want your name on the track just write it right after the song's name and maybe 60% wont bother erasing the name!

wouldnt you hate to open a crate and read this? it would take you forever to find a song, just my $00.02

DJ FunkMasterSerato vs lady gaga - telehone
DvdJ Fulkjfdhgl vs ne-yo - closer
DvdJ Fulkjfdhgl vs guns and roses - welcome to the jungle
dvdj lkjfdhgldkjd vs cascada - whatever song
videodj kool premiere vs your favorite artist - your favorite song
vj whoelse vs anotherartist - anothersong
VJ kksfjdghslkj vs whack artist - whack song
DJ dvdjvideo editor wtfsartist - wtfsong

+1

I love all my remixes in this thread.

Thanks

hey i have a question about the smash vidz payments....why is it cheaper to buy month to month??? i was gonna buy a 2 month sub but its 97 bucks...if i buy month to month..2 months would be 94 bucks. whats the deal with that? you'd think you'd get a discount for buy 2 months upfront?

its not cheaper. your confusing it with the initial dues, which is cheaper.

no redline is right... i just went to renew and 1 month is 47 and 2 months is 97 so thats 94 vs 97

I pay 200/ month.
Hey wait a minute.

I wish they would create a category for the throw backs.
Listing them in the latest 100 is screwing things up.

patience :-)

2.0 is around the corner

yeah buddy 2.0 you guys are gonna like it ALOT! They have been listening to ALL your requests in the past and have answered the most vital requests. and then went beyond that.

cool cant wait for 2.0 buuuuuutttt still want more of those crooklyn vids even though i just bought a bunch last week. :-)

They do it's called old school
It's on the site.

i wish they didn't count re post as a post...like when they add an xtendz or snipz to a video that was added like a month ago...then its considered "new" cause its got that stuff added and then we end up not getting much videos on that post.

Yeah there are a lot of confusing things on the site. Hopefully they're all fixed in 2.0.

NOW HURRY!!! lol

They are fixed. they have been paying attention to everyones needs and even a lil wants in 2.0...

Let me rephrase that.
Why is old school showing up in the latest 100 where the latest releases should be.
If the tracks are old school, thats where they should be.
Look at the latest 100.

Kanye West - Stronger new! er...2007?

Just re-title "Latest Releases" to Latest Additions" and this solves the issue.

question
What the hell is {TnS}.

quality is spot on!

Tilt and Scan
Takes the videos that are shot in 4x3 (why this isn't 1950) and sets them to 16x9

Makes ugly videos look widescreen.
I delete all the others that aren't tns and only use those.

Yea thats basically what it its. Our latest releases/additions. Thats the first I've heard that complaint though hehe.



it goes back to the top so you can get the new mixes, otherwise you would miss them. It will work the same way in 2.0 BUT there will be check marks next to the ones you already downloaded, this will prevent you from downloading the same thing.



This is not the case at all. Also "new" again just means new addition. I guess we gotta change some verbage to be exactly right hehe.

Also we will be working on a Bible to explain every aspect of the site. Maybe we need a ? mark hover like serato hehe

NICE!!!
Thanks djpuma_gemini I thought it was Tit's and sluts. I kid I kid....
I'm a month into the vdj game and this new terminology is killing me.

sluts :)

nice marx. cant ait to see 2.0

i hear good things homie =]

wait, theres sluts in 2.0??

easter egg!

I heard in 2.0 every video has lil jon.

Nope...it's Lil Wayne.

no, its Little Debbie

no fatman scoop

LIL RU

Lil zane

Lil KeKe

Lil Peach

Lil HenryGQ and his broken echo'd 68

lil millz the pioneer fan boy

lil kim

lil smokies

lil boosie

just a lil bit

lol bow wow

lol, I meant lil, dang.

lil scrappy

lil mama

lil ghey

and of course..


lil dick

tienes?

may favorite line to a girl(when i wanna be a dick)

i have a llittle dick, but in ur ass.... it will feel like a tree trunk LOL


okie... kids. can we get back on thread

ok back on thread...

so this is a smashvids thread.
their videos rock...
one thing i always wondered about 8th, smash and clan is;
how legal is the site exactly?

hah

IBTL lol

i get videos from all of them, and i'm pretty sure all of those sites have illegal videos on them. especially with crooklyn clan using movie clips from studio movie dvds. that doesn't mean anything is going to happen. crooklyn clan has been operating for 4 years now, if they haven't been shut down yet, then it's not likely that any other site will.

lol i was thinking about this the other day, they have a few vid remixes on there recently that have scenes from movies that are still in theatres.........that CANT be legal

Im curious how much is protected by the "for working djs only/for promotional use only" loophole?

Im sure the labels/studios are more concerned with MASS distribution and them not seeing a dime.
but you gotta figure, If I made a video chalk-full of iron man and played it for the next
month...how many people might go see the movie after seeing the video?

There has to be people at the label that FEEL this STILL promotes their music for free (to them) they spend crazy money on videos, and its nothing but a commercial for the artists/album... they used to fight for MTV spins. now they are all gettin played in clubs DIRECTLY AT their target audience...and for free.
zero payolla!.

+1000

I wonder how many people see the videos at the club and get home and buy them from itunes and/or audio version.

They should be giving us the shit for free. (not record pools, labels)

LOL

Here's how it works...or how we see it.

Music videos are like vinyl. Labels pressed vinyl for the pools for the DJs to promote the product and used to give it away for free. Give 1 copy to a DJ, he plays for hundreds of people, it's a great promo idea. Music videos used to be a tool to promote the artists as well. They aired on Much, MTV, BET and promoted the song and they never made money on music videos. However, now with itunes selling videos, their opinions are changing.

In terms or what is legit, here's the deal. No editing of a music video is legit unless you get permission from the director. Labels allow pools to edit videos for promotional purposes, however, the day will come when an artist complains and sh*t hits the fan and it's gonna be rough for everyone.

Let's say Alicia Keys sees her video in a club, sync'd to a house version. She will ask Sony who approved it, they will say no one, and she'll get upset and Sony and Sony will have to do damage control and talk to or cut off all the pools who edit videos. We've talked to a few pools and DJs out there and they get serviced the videos. The labels tell them they'll turn a blind eye to the editing, or quite simply, don't know it's being edited. That's fine until someone complains. This is why Sony, who is the most corporate of all the major labels is afraid to let us edit, in case an artist sees it and gets upset. All videos have to stay as is.

Warner, EMI and Universal just wanna make money and figure people are gonna do it anyways, so we might as well take a piece of the pie and get on board.

As for legalities, we went to the labels and told them exactly what we were gonna do. We showed them demo copies and in our case, we pay the labels a percentage of our gross revenue every month, along with a download list of videos, user's names, emails, full financials of the company, where we advertise, etc. So, in our case, the labels are making money from us, so they allow it to happen. It's promo, they get paid from it and they control it. In actually, they own a piece of the company...but why shouldn't they, it's their content.

We actually have to ask for permission for every song, and we get denied on quite a few of them. It's frustrating, having a video but Warner says they don't have a record of it, because some intern entered the audio, but didn't enter the video, but that's the way it is. However, it's 100% legit and the labels have control over everything they one. We also supply them with copies of the videos after they have been edited so they can see what we've done.

So, to clear it all up, using movie clips, mashups, unofficial videos are great for DJs, no one can stop you and no one will persue the DJ because it's not worth it to persue 1 guy. But as for pools, when you are distributing this stuff to hundreds of DJs, they might make an example. Especially if you are using movie clips and stuff. Remember, the labels also own the movie companies. Universal Pictures (Uni), (Columbia Pictures (Sony) and Warner Brothres (Warner). So they have some pull!

And that's what happens every 2-3 years, they pick one person and make an example of them to scare everyone else. It happened with Napster, Limewire, etc and it will happen again. They can't monitor all DJs, but they will pick one and make an example of them.

My name is DJ crunky and I approve this message

so, if anyone ever comes up asking who did a remix... just say

IM DOING THIS SHIT LIVE SON!!!!
Thanks for putting the acapella on your maxi-single.

would u like fries with that ?

Man, Xtendamix, kudos on doing what seems to be above and beyond to establish a legit rep.

Sorta back to the original thread: anyone download the Mary J Blige "We Got Hood Love" video? It plays at double speed. Is it just me?

^^ just DL'd it and it's all good

Ok, I'll re-DL. Probably user error. Thx

LOL @ the canadian remix company who explicitly says you have to live in canada to use the service establishing its legitness to its users who obviously dont live in canada who want to make sure the service they falcified information to is providing a legal service with the explanation of its all illegal anyway but you prob wont get in trouble for a while LMFAO






Im just hatin cause im still to scared to put my feet in that water

Its a giant grey area imo.
On one hand, we are promoting the artists music and need to be able to mix it.
To do this, we don't want cold fades and story breaks in the middle.

To classify an extended track edit in the same way as a mash up, or hype intro or club edit is a mistake on their part.
The problem is that they can't distinguish the difference between the edits.
I know of one such person at Sony records who didn't know there was a difference between an extended edit and a remix, go figure.

While part of me agrees, particularly with off key mashups which would offend any artist, or a mash up involving different labels, the legalities need to be specified in these permissions issues.

I fail to see any harm in the average extended tracks, particularly if they are going to get played.
A good example of this is yremix/Aerosmith - Sweet Emotion.
Now this is a track that absolutely would not get dance floor play otherwise due to the breaks in the original track.
But that version changes that for the good of us, the guests and the artist.

How you can categorize that along with all of the other edits, is out of the scope of normal restrictions imo, its just not the same as an off key train wreck mashup, and I don't blame the labels or artists for being pissed off about that one bit.

you're either legal or not, you have permission or don't.

there is no grey area.

If distributing material without permission was the greatest priority of the record labels, YouTube and VEVO wouldn't exist.

Music videos are adverts, and adverts are made to be seen by as many as possible, whether on youtube, TV or in venues. Editing them was never in the script, but VJ'ing is slowly changing the politics of yesterday, labels are becoming more flexible.

The only legal distributors of music videos that I know of are:

Promo Only
Screenvision / Jones
XtendaMix

Any other reasoning that anyone uses...like "it's advertising" or whatnot is just an excuse to justify using illegal videos.

Use illegal videos if you want to...just don't kid yourself about what you are using.

Billy Curington V.s. BEP- I Got A Feeling (Dj Cutt Remix) (Dj Cutt Edit) Clean (125) <---worst mix ever made

That's the most valid point of the whole mess.

Dj's are left/kept in the dark not really knowing what legal is.
To us, its get that track as soon as it surfaces.
If that means its on Vevo in HD right now, I'd be a fool to not grab it until it comes along on one of the other illegal dj pool sites.

So how we go from being part of a music awareness campaign to jailed criminals in a sense is out of my scope of logic.

I predict that in 10 years, its not gonna matter as the media will be so widely available that promo's may not even exist.
As it stands right now, these free media sources are the first to get these tracks, and for all I know the editors are using the same hd unmarked source for their base tracks, who knows. Seen and heard worse, that's for damned sure.
And its not that its good or its bad or anything against those who remix, because I worship some of you guys, but it still falls into question when the regular promos don't even have it yet and what the legal source really is.

I have never seen an "official" document of authenticity from any of the promotional music groups. What makes them "official", an application and $$$?

Personally, to me, it doesn't really matter, I have hard copy for everything anyway.

And yes, unless all of the questions are answered, its still a giant gray area.

And you prob never will, its in the companys best interest to keep this murkey so they get the best of both worlds, they give out the media and get free advertising but leaving it hazy means at any time they can pull the reins in and make money off lawsuits

^best thing you've said in a while.

ya ive been trying to raise the quality of my posts

Cool,

but you are probably correct. Once they start feeling pressure they'll act like it's super illegal and bad for business.

Good points Rick.

You really could pull your hair out in this industry of self contradiction, but we are also generalizing about "the labels" perhaps as they do about the people who promote their content.

We're not happy to just push play and come what may, we're professionals who need to perform so we need professional product, not every DJ/VJ has the time, tools or talent to re-edit and remix for themselves, so these services exist out of a legitimate need, some labels get it, some don't and some just don't know.

The idea of consumers buying music videos is becoming less likely, maybe for fan boys/collectors but your average consumer?

Anyone with a TV, computer or mobile phone can watch music videos on demand, and if streaming isn't good enough they can be downloaded/stored with great ease, sometimes in HQ-1080p which you couldn't even buy if you wanted to...

If I owned a label I wouldn't mind DJ sites remixing/mashing my content, as I can justify their role and appreciate that on balance it's good for business, would I put all my videos on youtube in true 1080p? No..., but if all the competition were doing this then I'd I have to think again...

its kinda like those celeb chicks who sue people for shopping around their sex tapes then when they have the tape back they sell it to a publisher

the one person that could tell say whether or not smashvids is a legal site hasn't replied to the question...which is an answer in itself

It's not a grey area or a feeling pressure cop-out.

Labels are allowed a 10% grace on that material that they distribute that they do not have to pay publishing on. This allows for CD release parties, pools, DJ promos, etc.

As for the line in the sand...if the label gives it to you - it's legal. If they allow a pool to use it and distribute it, it's legal. I can only speak on our behalf, so here's how it works. The labels have our member list, know the amount of downloads, and get paid based on that. We pay them a portion of gross sales. All of our tracks are AVLA licensed, so all videos we put out are officially licensed and legit copies. So even the DJs are clear and using legit copies...so we have to be by the book. It sucks, we can't get creative, but by the book, all the time.

We spent over 2 years with countless demos, meetings, had to go through the ringtone crap, dealing with different rules on editing from different labels and so on to help make them understand what DJs already understand. That promo and DJs are good for business and if traditional record pools existed, why can't a video remix pool exist. Truth is, it's actually itunes that has helped them understand. The DJs are gonna get it anyway, and do it anyway, so might as well get on board.

Itunes has brought them to reality that it is a a digital age and that it costs them the same to give away 1 copies as it does to give away 100,000 copies. There's no manufacturing costs anymore. But they want to get paid for it now, not like in the past like traditional pools where it was only 100% promo and they gave it away for free. At this day in age, they want to be paid for everything. We talk to many labels who ask how much they are getting, and don't want to give stuff away for free. We respect that and deal with them on a case by case basis. Everyone wants to make money and with the way the industry is, you have to in order to survive.

At the end of the day, you're pretty much save to do whatever you want, until you get caught. It's like any law. As for pools that are legal or illegal...when you are doing unofficial videos, mashups, blends, and using content not approved by the labels, you're ok, until you get caught. One guy at the label might say it's ok, but lawyers might say something else. What if that promo guy gets fired, changes companies, or his boss says no. What if they change their mind later on? Labels may see the opportunity for a lawsuit and will follow up on it. It's a business, they want to make money. If they feel their content is being used in an injust way, they want to get paid.

I've made this point before and I'm going to make it again.

You trying to play the labels is like trying to play a didgeridoo, they can play you as easily as bongo drums.

Depending on who's talking to them, and who you're talking to changes the song the birdie whistles.

This seems to have worked for and against you, the last time I checked Ministry of Sound had an exclusivity deal in place with Promo Only, how did you get around this? So now I can call you illegal? No it doesn't work that way...

On the other hand I think your early negotiations must have sucked, the guy who came up with the ringtones must have been joking, either that or you lost some sort of bet.

Labels were providing videos to at least two pools before Xtendamix was dreamed up, without ring tones and yes with some creative editing.

Interscope not only "allowed it", they endorsed it:
www.blackeyedpeas.com


Not everyone gets the same deal, that's life.
And as for labels changing their minds about what they're willing to accept, and then turning on the heat when it doesn't suite them, that's the talk of fairy tales, the politics of fear. E-mails, letters and even telephone calls can be kept for such an event, but a bit extreme...one minute servicing you the next trying to nail you to a cross...more likely they'd just stop servicing you and ask you to pull their stuff down.

Not coming to anyone's defense but licensing is different between countries. Ministry of Sound may have an exclusive deal with Promo Only but it may be only for the UK.

As far as the Interscope Black Eyed Peas thing...just because a band posts a video on their blog or website does not mean the label is endorsing it. If the director of the video didn't like the edit and wanted to be a dick he could put in a call and it would probably be taken down.

Bren just to clarify your questions. Our deal is with Ministry of Sound America, not the one in the U.K. and we are granted permission on selected tracks, not all of them. We didn't "get around" it.

As for the ringtones, that was decided 3 years ago when ringtones were bigger and there was no compensation in place towards the labels. Now there is a compensation deal so they allowed us to get rid of it. Since we are first pool to "edit" videos in Canada and distribute via download only, they implemented different measures. EMI implemented it and the others followed suit. They thought seeing it in the club, people would text their favorite song. They didn't consider it's use at weddings, dances and corporate events where it looks a lot less professional. Believe it or not, it was the feedback on this board which I was able to take to the labels and show them the negativity of the ringtones and the user responses, not a lack of negotiating.

However, you are correct that everyone gets a different deal. It's who you know, timing of the industry and tonnes more factors. Our pool started as itunes got bigger and Warner came on board Oct 1st, the same day itunes scrapped the DRM from it's files. So it's connections, patience and timing which help each individual pools rules and success

Exactly licensing is different between countries, Xtenda is in Canada, not the US or Europe. And their experience should be understood within this context.

They've put the edit on their website because they want to show it to fans, they didn't just stumble upon it on youtube, this is clear evidence that Interscope service Smashvidz contrary to some of the remarks posted here.

Actually as someone who's edited for Smash, I know they get serviced from some big labels, just because they don't make a big song and dance out of it, it's not to say they don't.

The labels can drop anyone at any time, including promo only, actually I know more distribution companies that have been in trouble than haven't, it's the nature of the beast.

You can't have a tiger by the tail.

I am not sure who this is referring to but my statement was not to who is servicing Smash or not.

Understood, just adding clarity for those who doubt.

ok...smashvidz is good.

however, no group that edits video is perfect and very few are consistent.

here's the issues i have with smashvids.

1) this one is no big deal and i usually correct it anyway. this one is just about personal preference.
what is the deal with the cue points? i am not sure about some of you but i want a cue point to be on the one.
for example: i gotta feeling (extendz) the first cue is on the first beat, cool, but the second starts on the vocal, 2-3 beats before the break or the one. weird. maybe that is useful to some people and maybe it would help me if i had to start it there.

2) the intros.
the are just ok. but what i don't get is they don't always follow the structure of a song.
on high tempo song an intro that is 4 counts of 8 makes no sense especially when the rest of the song isn't that way...and be consistent 4/8 intro 8/8 outro. what is the point?
don't say cuz people that are playing that fast need a longer outro for house or whatever cuz those same people need the same intro as well.

3) intros
need more clean beats. sometimes the intro is practically the main part of the song. full on melody, full on beat, full on everything. just no lyirics. add that with a 15 second intro for uptempo mixes and your screwed without turning down the entire eq. for the most part it's ok BUT lately i have gotten a few that all i could think was "how can i mix this with any other tone? might as well just have the single."
follow the audio remix services it's almost always clean beat intro clean, beat outro.
maybe they need audio editors, idk, but i just watched an edit that floored me.
La Roux - bulletproof - think it was a snipz. from the very first beat it's practically the full melody BUT the outro is a clean beat. how hard would it have been to add that end beat to the start for a nice clean beat?

an increasing amount of videos i get have tags that i write "edit this" next to them to remind me to make my own version.


anyway, cue points are no biggie but consistent intro/outro and clean beats are important to me. not sure about the rest of you


i am sure i sound like a complete dick and usually do but this is meant to be constructive criticism.

I like "elements" from the track in the intro.

and sometimes I even like the whole sha-bang.
sometimes Ill loop up the intro and use it like I would the Instrumental.

I think those of use who came up using doubles
(IE, using the instrumental from record 1 to mix out of a record, then using
the single after the blend)
probabaly prefer it.

I wouldnt go as far as even trying to say its right or wrong....
its preference.

I just know when the intro is TOO bare it almost seems useless to me.
(other than for line'ing up the actual mix)
becuase theres no element of the track that is recogizable to the crowd.
so when the track starts, it literally sounds like drop anyways.

again, I think that comes down to personal preference and mixing style.

The reason why cue points don't start on the one for singles or intros is (I do this to)
because if say you don't mix in with the intro and want to scratch the song in. It would sound stupid to mix in on the one if the vocals start 2 beats before that. Not all songs start their vocals on the 1.

Look at flo rida's low for example. If you dropped it on the 1, it would sound like this...apple(1) bottom(2) jean(3) jean(4) boots(1) with(2) the fur(3)

but the track starts off at shorty had them...apple bottom jean jeans.

For those of us who can't mix in not on the one, dropping it on applebottom would work easier, but for those of us can mix in on different beats could drop it on shorty had and still make applebottom hit on the one.

I agree with joshua carl. I don't like tracks with intros that sound like just a drum beat you can barely hear the track underneath the outgoing track and when it finally drops after the intro it sounds like the track was dropped.

Take the gang starr mass appeal they just uploaded. The intro sounds ok, but when the track comes in it sounds awkward like it was just dropped in. I rather use the full on inst and just eq it down and mess with the eq until I fully bring the track in. now on a 130bpm track you have very little time to mess with eq's since the chorus is so short anyways, but I still manage to do it.

@tomatoslice & all

Sometimes ish happens, just drop us a line with ones you don't like so we can review them. We always have tried to find a happy medium. But its personal preference for sure especially on cue points. This is why we never even bothered with the genre, it can go so many different ways.

Some I agree are ify, but chances are those never had a instrumental released, thats usually when I hit up Millz & have him chop up the beat for a DIY intro.

I personally as a dj don't like the chopped up beats to much, some sound great & some just sound like a lego mix to me. Most of the mixes have always been built off the way I mix or the way I know the majority does....maybe I'm getting old now, vinyl doubles was me all the way...7 crates to a top 40 club (until I would replace doubles for one lethal weapon :-)

4/8 this is another one thats me, its just something I really never had with vinyl & just prefer. I am a heavy scratcher at times so 8 bar intro is way more then enough usually I only need 4 bar intro to have the mix really blend nicely (hence why another cue point at beat 16) same thing goes for the cue point at the first voice. Along with scratching I love long mixing as well, especially on the out so when I'm chopping up a acapella or a Blenx-in it gives me more time to make transition sound smooth (on uptempo tracks). Its personal preference without a doubt.

Again if there is a track that really bugs you just hit us up.

+1 dont change sh!#

The only thing I'd really like is to see a convention of outro=cuepoint 5.

The other stuff is all pretty subjective, and easy enough to change.

I notice in serato if you don't use all 5 cues and set 5 to the outro it will drop down to the next available slot, so if you only have 2 used and set 5 as outro, next time you open the track it will be set at cue 3.

I don't like that, but that's an ssl thing

good points.
i can understand having elements of the song for a blend and i figured that having a cue not on the one helps when you want to scratch, it helps me, don't know why i didn't mention that tho cuz i meant to.

i was a heavy vinyl person with doubles until i moved to NC, home of funkymix.
so many record stores had TONS of remix services here. i got crazy spoiled.
and when final scratch and then scratchlive came out i cut all the bshit out of those songs to create the breeziest tracks to mix. at that point a monkey could dj. it was thinkless, it just mattered how you put it together.

so i am now used to a VERY clean mixing style. i don't layer a LOT of tones because frankly it limits what tracks will go with what and i refuse to be a djam wanna be that goes from any song to any song without making any sense and doesn't have a clue that one of the reasons he was good, among many, was that he mixed IN KEY a lott...but you know? that's what it seems the majority of djs are now, mashup fools with no hearing of what sounds bad (but that is a whole other thread)...so basically i don't do a lot of blends. it's just clean, no clash mixing and scratching

but seriously there is a pretty good standard for audio remix services and it is NOT based just on how I dj, or how marx djs, or how puma plays, or how Joshua mixes or how any one particular person works. it's based on the general populace of djs and the way the majority have done it for years.

perhaps another kind of smashvid video that caters to clean beats?

it seems crazy to me that there's a whole world of audio services that have it dialed in to a standard but very few in the video world.

i know i am not the only one that feels this way about the issues i mentioned.

btw, isn't there a box to check or uncheck fro that?
will the one for cues in chronological order fix that issue? i dont remember.

perhaps, but would most likely happen only with a existing audio service. Anyone with interest feel free to e-mail us.

You will see more "cut up" intro and outros on stuff from here on out. Like Marx said, get a hold of one of us if there is either something you think is wrong or a suggestion on a older video that you think is too busy on the intro and outro. I am an editing machine.

Let me preface with, you guys are still #1 i my book. I recently accessed the Moron mode of my brain and fried my hard drive. Your search system (and deep archive) really really rreeally made me happy. Almost like having a friend in a time of deep sadness.

One thing - and this is just me trying to make the world more efficient - but I don't see a need to make an Xtendz for tracks with usable intros. Most recent example is 112's " Hot n Wet". Yes, Puff is muttering during the lead in, but it's faint enough to ignore. Plus, it adds that organic feel of using the "real" track.

Small potatoes in the scheme of things, but something I would just like to share.

I say use all inst for intros and if there isn't one then you can chop it up.

+1000 for this

tonight i got a text from a Vj half way across the country.


that person made a very good point. longer intros with dry beats are great for some of us and to those that like 4/8 or non-dry intros they can just set their cue points further in on the track.
by creating edits like that you will be catering to more people.

btw someone also pointed out that you guys may have taken what i said personally. well, please don't.

Nothing personal at all. The third person reads to deeply.

4/8 was considered a long time ago. Problem with that is not everyone loops or knows how to mix in the middle of the hook let alone a quarter.

Only way to hit more of an area is to do different mixes. This is y some people perfer a lethal weapon or a funkymix or a xmix. One will hate one and love another.

oh ok, cool.

i agree that you would have to do different mixes to hit more people. the lethal, funky, xmix stuff is very popular where i am at. and for the most part those mixes get edited own even more to cut out the bs. i know a LOT of people that would love those edits set to video. this imo is what the Vj world is missing.

actually, what i meant by 4/8 is 4 eight counts, you already have that with most of your uptempo videos.


from what i can tell it seems with such a short full on melodies as an intro especially on uptempo edits unless you are looping with a lot of eq turned down, which i usually do, you are going to have a short quick mix. that is fine but at some point you will get a soundclash or a not so fresh mix?
for example: taio cruz - break your heart. the intro to that kicks in so hard it almost sounds best on a dry beat or scratched in.

what i was also wondering is if you have a set online anywhere so i can further understand how you mix the smashvidz tracks you create.

that should read as...
"for the most part those mixes get edited DOWN even more to cut out the bs"

Thought u meant 4 bars of basic drums then another 4 of instrumental.

No mixes online off the top of my head, I would have to rip some video footage. I have some biloxi footage somewhere, some at the bumsquad conference. Ill be in Atl for the idj conference mixing there too.

So do I actually, but again some prefer the full 32 beat dry boom chick boom chick intro.
And if you mix in key, this is a vital feature and allows some real remix creativity live.
I usually have Music Choice on here and dammed if the dj's don't let a 32 beat count run its full dry boom chick out with no color what so ever, it pisses me off.
Less people will care if you cut it short rather than let it run it out full.

I mean really, its a fader.
You control how much of the incoming or outgoing song you want heard.
You cut it short or let it run if its working or not.

Another trick to cover that crap is a mic jockey and they piss me off worse using that 32 count to blab away. STFU and play the music dude...

Thank you SV for giving us the full video to look at instead of 1:30, because frankly there's a lot of content that we need to see and hear BEFORE its pumpin at full volume.
I know as a yearly subscriber we can dl and toss it, but just the same its a nice feature vs. the others.

Def be using SV in the booth at AC this year.

totally..
Ill use some of the clean 32x to make my own redrums over 80s and rock tracks.

situations like that you need a beat with no melody or bassline.

perfect example:
Tipsy-JKwon

we've seen that beat layered over everything from queen, to the beatles, to 50ct.
and it all works from the lack of melody and the ability to stay clear of key clash.

where as Big Poppa - Notorious BIg, most of the mixes start right off with the
melody, so when using that 32 intro its alot like using the 12' instrumental.
and you DO have to apply some key awareness.

for alot of those that I do, I end up using a 16 beat loop though.
often times theres something on 30-32 that will throw off a perfect Instr. loop.
(IE in big poppa u catch "to all my")

Differnt strokes for different folks.
if we all had the same paint, and all painted the same way...it'd be pretty boring.

Hey rick which booth will you be at?

heres a old one I found, I was testing ME recording.

media.smashvidz.net

chopped it up so you only hear the mixing, skipped over a segment of remixes so you hear only Xtendz, quality reduced for faster streaming, pre-unibody days.

one of the few that were rough for me from smashvidz was "back to the crib" by juelz santana. that just had a hard intro. where as the i12inch posted on dtvideos was more workable. but i feel that even that version was not all that great. it would have been better if it would have gone into the instrumental for at least 16 count.. maybe even a 32 count and then into the hook.

but i can see where tomatoslice coems from. at least with records liek that one... wheres this alot going on...

will check outthe Julez

i like the video marx but how come some of the videos you show are not on the site ?

*ajem* tamborine break is not for download =(

In the old days, kung fu masters never taught their students everything, in case some overzealous achiever tried to overthrow them.

in the new days, fkit...i show people how to do what i do cuz if they do it better i steal their ideas and keep improving then they can learn from me and so on.

Do you think all editors put up all the edits for sale or download (video pool vs pay per sites)

I know I don't put up all my edits, nothing against anyone, but I'm sure some people like to still be different and have stuff others don't have.

How does that t&s work? Do you manually adjust the cut off area and change it during the video?

Baically scene by scene we will move the video up or down so the active picure is still the main active part. Its pretty tedius but just another element to our forward thinking so you guys can get the best results when playing out.

That is tedious. Just cropping of from top and bottom could leave a bad looking video.

I still only get the tns and leave the others.

+1

yeah just cropping would look like ass.

all tns....from now on!

This is a decent solution for some videos, not for others, It's ideal for transitions when one video is 4:3 and the other 16:9.

a very small percentage will look ok, but thats a very small %

OMG someone shoot the double rainbow dude....

I'm dropping that tonight.

hey just giving props to smash... not that you guys haven't been good before..but since the new 2.0...your uploads have been awesome and abundant. I definitely feel like im getting my moneys worth...and then some. Keep up the good work! Thanks!

:)

In actuality, we are getting more than our money's worth, but that's what competition does.

that trend will last as long as the pants on the ground song.

Forgot about that song. Can't believe I made a video edit for that.

Forget about your edit of that song. Can't believe you admitted that.

Some people still play it...

on youtube maybe...

:-)

And that is exactly where it belongs so it can compete on the same level as this one.
Watchwww.youtube.com

And not to be out done...

Watchwww.youtube.com

Bren, the reason for remixed edits is to make them mixable whether its just adding an intro outro, stepping up the tempo, or eliminating the holes and breaks in the track that stop dance floors dead wondering wtf...

Now as funny and well done as some of those Pants edits were, none of them went all the way through without the dialog breaks, the closest I saw was Transform ya and still it had the dialog breaks.
Funny yes, but more for those warm up the dance floor moments, certainly not one I would mix into or out of in a set.
And this is where it becomes do or die when as dj's we make a decision to play or not and frankly I wouldn't have the balls to spring any of these unless I was backing up a comedy show somewhere.

As for the Dude Rainbow edits....another case of should I make an edit or shouldn't I and will it wind up getting played by dj's or on youtube.
Well toss in a half a pound of manotinous loops and some strobing test pattern color and yup you got a remix I guess.
Frankly for $6.49 for the video I am shocked.
Been wrong before and will be wrong again, but this one has me scratching my head.

Thanks Marx for turning off the auto stream though.
That kind of thing can be a real problem if we are live when looking for a track.

this is true with VDJ, not with Serato though. I did it just to stick to peoples head :-)

a lot of people actually bought it. haha

Damn editing Larry was a pure pleasure, it was funny and a great oddment to throw into the mix, I'll edit anything (except hardcore porn) if it pays off, and these edits paid off (for me).

Not sure how one and not the other Marx, please explain.

I know on my mac, the internet uses the local sound device when the software has selected a different output, but on pc it uses the default sound device which in the case of audio software would be what ever is selected.
So what happens is we are mixing, and might need a track lets say and the stream is now over/with the main sound output.

So with Serato on PC this stream does not effect the output?

Rick

Yup... the only thing coming out of the serato box/57 is the music you are mixing.














Buy a serato ;)

Even on PC?

yep

Very interesting

Yup, sticks like a screwdriver right into my forehead, lol.

auto stream? do you mean hint for streaming?

Hehe two days on auto was plenty

hey i have a request/question. Can you guys check the audio on the " Love Come Down" Dirty Money song. Seems that the audio is either really loud or almost distorted over the PA at every club ive played it at. Maybe i'm wrong or maybe its just the way the song was made. thanks Redline

don't play in the red.

lol thats just PDiddys mastering, that bass is a MONSTER

gotcha

check the gain of the track also... sometimes autogain messes up and boosts a track that is already too loud

i'll check it..thanks

Does anyone know if Smash Vidz allows you to have multiple downloads per an account like DJ city does, like in case one fails or something? If not, how do you get access to a video if a download fails?



Thanks.

just redownload it.

I think you get two or 3 times to download

Crazy question but what are the TnS videos at Smashvidz.

Tilt and scan, making full screen videos into widescreen. Most clubs and bars use widescreen tvs, so you will keep the correct aspect ratio playing on them.

i am not looking to make enemies or friends.
i am just to say how it is...

smashvids gold digger - snipz
wtf is that??!?

i am not going to say anything about the intro since there is a dif of opinion.
but the outro...you don't cut off vocals.
if you're going to do a FULL mix with that, just straight mix, your going to sound like shit.
even if you can mixt that proper it is STILL NOT MADE CORRECT.

Its a snipz?
Picky picky picky...lol
Just kiddin; ya

But really, if I want to shorten up or mix out I do so myself at the break.
Way to many versions to get it wrong just once, so I stick with the straight up full length xtends.
Nice intro, nice outro, no pot holes in the middle and life goes on.

Tomato,
Any Xtendz or Snipz that you find not "dj friendly", please shoot me an email @ Millz@Smashvidz.com with the file name and I will take care of it.

well, yea i am very picky picky picky, rick...

man, Millz i know i am dick and shoot straight from the hip but there are just soo many edits that are flat out wrong. i know i am not the only one that feels this way, i am just the one that is a prick about it or says anything.

shooting an email would be great but the email would be this...
'there are a lot of smashvids that i don't understand. i don't want time to send you an email every time and you'd get sick of me super fast. i am sure you already are because i would be sick of me.
i didn't know you were with smash so i feel like a bigger asshole now, sorry.

on the other hand i would ask, did you not here the edit? it was just wrong.
you'd call me out if i had shite video rendered wrong, at least i hope you would. we all it do with 8th, remember DjCutt?

i appreciate the vids but not everyone mixes like you guys. i have said it before and i will say it again. creating consistency, clean beats and mixes that appeal more to ALL djs rather than just the way YOU mix or think other people should is the way to go.
do not make mixes just for you, make mixes for everyone.
this will seriously help you as a company.

with 120+ bpm, practically no track is structured with 32 beat breaks. why would an intro go this way? so you can loop? not everyone loops. appeal to those that don't and the ones that think 64 is too long, hello, cue points.

it almost seems like you are re-inventing the wheel.
there is no need for that. the remix audio world has done half the work for you. they are a prime example of what appeals to many. (et's leave out the too "much crap going on" funkymix stuff but frankly many times there is 'too much crap going on' in those 32 beat intros.
i listened to the bulletproof extendz. it has a full on melody intro but a nice clean outro.
what's up with that? no one could take those clean beats and put some at the start so when a dj mixes there is good flow? that would have been a 'dj friendly' version.

some day someone will come out with video to the masses, that follows song structure and if they play their cards right you could be left in the dust.
complacency is death. thinking you are a 100% right is wrong. don't let it happen."

Trust me, picky is cool, sloppy is not.
Perfection is always the target and nobody is a dick for having a high standard.

I was just jabbin'

Tomato,

The mixes you are referring to are older mixes that I didn't personally edit.

Hey all, what are the differences between the red download snipz and xtendz etc. and the normal grey ones?

red="dirty".

Thank you!! (makes sense) haha

Tomato - You are such an @$$hole! Haha! J/K bro ... You're on it ;-)

i haven't used smashvidz yet but i do have one gripe. I was checking out some of their edits and on some of the intro's you can see the artists spitting vocals during the intro's as if they were gonna speak. This is tacky. I just wanted to know if all of them were like that? I was checkin out someone's video blog and it was a video intro for "carry out" and both justin and timbo's mouths were moving during the video intro lol..

I personally haven't noticed that. However, now I'm going to go check that intro out.

Been a member of Videotoolz and recently joined Smash. Def love Smash quality better.

I've never seen this with a Smashvidz edit, sure you have the right pool?

it was from dj wyte's blog @ musicvideodjs.blogspot.com where i caught it and the video was tagged as smashvidz

musicvideodjs.blogspot.com

i saw it in the fun mix with akon if u scroll down, carry out is the 2nd track he mixes in, u can def see words coming out of their mouth as if the chorus was gonna come in. Wtf does their editing? that's the cheesiest intro ever. i have seen others like this too.

found another that looks like smashvidz it's chingy right thurr and he's rapping in the intro lol...

Watchvimeo.com

Dude first off, that wasn't a smashvidz video.

second, he looks like he only had the single (NO INTRO) and put the inst under it (assign video)

He clearly went with an inst and a single, not using the smash extendz video

(carry out)

Can't you see that's a promo only video. Dude isn't using smashvidz. He's using the main video and attaching the inst underneath it (assign video)

Do some research before you accuse them of having shitty edits.

lol, alright bro i thought that for a min. he must of had the just playing and then used audio instrumental/intro. It looked cheesy is all im sayin.

+1

Yeah.

Sorry if I sounded all crazy in my posts.

I just know that smash rarely ever fucks up edits and when I saw your post and those mouth's moving I was tripping.

Smash has quality stuff.

thanks for the heads up, cuz i might subscribe now. once i seen that i was like wtf..makes sense now.

and even more importantly they have a grip of like minded customers / peers who would give them a heads up if shit was jacked up in some way.
but their quality control is on point, internally and externally

Do they have 90's Hip-Hop?
Nas, Tribe, etc.

yes, but not a ton. Mainly the current stuff spanning several genres.
You will get the classics, but not every 90s hip hop video known to man from them

Now a billing question. I just did a 1 month subscription due to low funds. Payday is coming and I was wondering is the billing squared away enough to add on a 3 month to current sub or should I wait till month runs out? I know Smashvidz is a very professional service but I hate doing disputes through email. Any help would be great.

I'm not sure they will prorate you for the amount you paid, but they've always answered my email very quickly.

You should ask.

Hit them up directly. They are cool peeps. I may seem like i'm all for em and I have no affiliation with them, in fact they are more like my competition for remixes, but they videos are on point.

You should be fine with billing, but I'd ask them first.

Howcome, shoot Smashvidz@Gmail.com an email with your question. Someone will respond quickly :)

yea. try hitting up marx on the PM tip. cool people. seem to be straight shooters.

Yo are some of the video edits off crooklyn clan or strictlyhits available @ smash vidz? I'd like more info on the audio and video remixers @ smash vidz. I'd also like to know if there's a good majority of dirty edits. Promo Only doesn't have much dirty versions.

Smashvidz is NOT the best.














Dj Kahled is the best!!!

Smash puts out pretty much everything with clean and dirty edits, if a dirty exists they usually put it up.

Some of the crooklyn clan vids get put up on smashvidz, but not from Strictlyhits.
Most of the remixes are from major producers, jason nevins, benny bennassi, etc. They might have their own, but majority are standard intros.

Put it this way. If you want to get into video, this would be the place to start. You can't survive off of Promo only alone.

You need to get in a video pool and start editing yourself to really get into it.

lol

sorry, lol was for this post...

tru im really for smashvidz cause they provide aca in and aca out video edits, which will make my video sets far more creative. I'm a performance dj so i use aca in & out's religiously! Can't live w/o em

I recently came back from my summer tour.
While I was driving on the highway in south of France, all of a sudden I see a double rainbow. I immediately thought about SV and started to laugh, then I'm like woah, that double rainbow is really something cool I've never seen before (well not as much as that crazy dude in the video lol).
So I grabbed my Iphone & took a pic;
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Nice pic :)

But what does it meeeean?

it means double gayness

I love those to Tecniq!

I'm in the Navy deployed overseas to Bahrain (google maps). I DJ over here and I just started my subscription to Smashvidz. I Love IT! I downloaded for a couple of days, then the Government BLOCKED the site. SMH.

What's your rate?

I was an EN on the Peleliu LHA-5

Former FC3, now CTR1

Crypto, damn nice.

@smash, when did the pricing change?

Maybe they think its a porn site. Hit us up on email so we can get worked out.

Hey, a new "bathroom mix" or two would be nice...especially if the title said something other than "Bathroom Break" or "Piss Break" :-).

I used my own edit last week i called it the "bust through the crowd and get a captain and coke mix"

Made it with time to spare.

Ya very tru

Use promo only power sets, in their urban video and dance video series they have atleast 3 or 4 videos mixed in together.

I want to sign up for smashvidz but I was wondering if i could just do a month subscription? Can someone get back to me

And how much is a month subscription? They don't have a contact page on their site otherwise i'd email someone.

NM bout the contact page, i got the email

:)

just emailed, awaiting a response. How soon can I be approved? I'd like to spin the vids tonight & tomm night @ my residency. If it takes too long I guess i can get some crook & stric hits vids for now.

Someone should contact you shortly Techniq. Ill put the word in for you. Thanks for signing up.

speaking of crook....seems like smash doesn't post as much crooklyn stuff as they used to. this saddens me.

patients plenty on the way

Please do

thanks marx...you never do us wrong. just like to see more then 5 in the last 100 :-)

They had quite a few of mine recently.

I'd love to see about 4 more dj got us fallin in love remixes. I can spin for about an hour of back to back omg and dj got us fallin in love remixes.
/sarcasm

between and that and dynamite Im set for a week

haha forgot about that one.