I've was sent a survey a while back through satellite records that had a couple of q's on downloadable offerings. I of course raved about how they should do it...but haven't heard anything back.

I usually use www.beatport.com, www.city16.com (part of the hooj/lost language group), www.ctga.com (for original trance tracks, but it's hard to weed out a lotta crap).

FutureTrax is in the process of putting the final touches on our site - covering everything from house, breaks, and trance to IDM, hip-hop, and downtempo. Rest assured, when we launch very shortly you will be extremely pleased with both our catalog and site!

Feel free to go to www.futuretrax.net and register for beta!

Thanks,
AK

Try www.trackitdown.net - Nice Site with legal, cheap downloads of club tunes!

Should I sticky this? IMO these places are a vital resource for SSL users, so if anyone knows of a good site/service please post it up!

definately make it a sticky!

Sure, why not? Sticky! Sticky! Sticky!

www.westendrecords.com

www.kingstreetsounds.com

I need a place that will convert all my vinyl to MP3 for me - are there any companies out there that do this? I found one guy but he wanted $5 a record - way too much if you ask me.

I use a TASCAM CC-222 to record my vinyl to cd. You could convert your cd then in the computer to the format of your choice an still have a nice cd collection for your car stereo.

i currently use Pro Tools, I just want someone else to do this casue I am lazy.

trackitdown.net is great - thanks chubbsta. looking forward to futuretrax too. Anyone know any others I've been missing?

Don't forget www.stompy.com

www.strictly-digital.com

Mainly DnB with lots of exclusive tracks from top producers

I like this one.
www.smart-music.net

Great site KFunk! Thanks for bring it forward!

www.releaserecords.com
www.audiojelly.com
www.playittonight.com
www.epitonic.com

www.bleep.com

For all Warp & Ninja Tune related labels

I just found a new one today, looks good, check it out:

www.digitaljaymusic.com

...and another one: www.uploud.com

This record label sells all singles on their website:
www.kismetrecords.com

All those sites suck, all they got is the commerical crap that no true lover of techno,trance,house even pays attention too.

I couldnt find one decnet song in any of those sites.

Err not even BeatPort? As a "true lover of trance" I found tons of good stuff on there, like the latest M.I.K.E/Push stuff from Bonzai, the latest tunes from Armada (love that label) and a whole ton of stuff I wouldn't have even heard elsewhere.

And no-one has ever called Warp "commercial"! bleep.com has their entire back catalogue.

Not even www.trackitdown.net ? They've got some pretty decent psytrance, techno and breaks stuff IMHO

Another good place for (mostly psy)trance MP3s is Cytopia:
www.cytopia.org

"a new web platform that enables psytrance music makers to upload and publish their work.

- Fully specialized in psytrance.

- Up to 40% payments to the composers.

- 320 kbps high quality mp3s "

It doesn't have that many tracks at the moment, but there's loads of interesting stuff there

hth

Paul

Another one: www.opdance.com

beatport definitely has some good non commercial tracks

So what's up with the FutureTraxx site, when is it scheduled to open up for bizness?

LK ....I think only the lord knows!!! I haven't heard much from them in the past couple of months?

Yeah, I been waiting on the email for it to open up for months now.

me too...I even tried to see if I can maybe get on the pre-launch site just to see what they are willing to offer or if they need any help?

If you are into funky and soulful house then check out www.traxsource.com

The website isn't live yet but I received an email from them a few days ago stating that it's only a couple of weeks away from launch.

I have been on their forum and asked some questions.

-You will be able to choose downloads up to 320Kbps
-No DRM
-A full back catalogue of all the labels

This is what their own moderator has told me so I'm hoping it's all true.

Check out the labels they've got. If you're into house this could well be the premier download site but we shall see.

www.traxsource.com is finally running.

awesome house music site!!! a must see for house djs mates...

OMG!! This is like a dream come true for me... all these TIGHT-A$$ house beats from '94 and '95 that I missed out on (but listened to for years on my friend's old mix tapes)!! And of course, SSL giving you the chance to freak 'em on the ta-ta's just as if you had an original pressing.

*WIMPER*... give me a moment... the emotion... can't hold back the tears of joy... this is too much for me... :-P

On yoshitoshi you can get a good chunk of their library. Im still looking for quality stuff along that line.

downloads.imorecords.com

DnB, Breaks, Hardcore, Hard Dance, Techno, Trance..........

does anyone have any good Hip hop and R and B joint

Some interesting music at www.mp3.com. You should check it out, Kaseem. You gotta have Napster though.

Talking of Napster, check this www.campchaos.com. Funny stuff...

Serato Scratch Live good.
FinalScratch bad.

So is Napster monthly, Revolution, or do I have to pay per download?

O.k. Camp Chaos was funny as hell.

I'm not into Napster, so I will have to do some more research. You could check out this one in the mean while though music.download.com.

It's quite a bit of work. So I guess you will hardly get that reasonable of prices.

Does anybody know where I can get Hip hop or radio songs on cd that are edited for mixing play?(meaning with an 8 bar intro)

www.xmix.com
www.wickedmix.com

But dont expect them to be available online downloadable ;-)

lol..I thought so..I am willing pay.

you can also try www.ultimix.com

No I meant you cant download them _even_ if you pay ;-) I presumed the fact that you are willed to pay. BTW, I think my post is useless in this thread, as it covers ".. sources of MP3" and you can order only vinyls at the links which I gave. My apologies.

damn, me too. shows what i get for recommending a service i don't even use.

thanks anyway...I try to do most my own edits but sometimes there is no dry beat..they end up rapping threw the song!!!..

For Deep House, Tech House, Progressive House, Progressive Breaks, and other genres along the same lines try edmdigital.com

I've been impressed with their offering... They have lots of tracks you probably will not find anywhere else.

All tracks are available in 192, 320, and FLAC...

Also, check out beatport.com

www.djsamples.com Some pretty nice samples here...

Sorry about that. Here is the correct one www.djsamples.com

I thought I would repost these links to avoid having to cut and paste...

www.edmdigital.com
www.beatport.com

OK, this is not strictly a dance MP3 site but if you're a slightly more eclectic DJ then this might interest you.

The web site is www.allofmp3.com

I know it looks like some dodgy russian site but I read about it in the Guardian Online (an extremely reputable broadsheet newspaper).

They have a pretty good selection of 70s and 80s albums which can be downloaded whole or just the individual tracks.
You can get bit rates up to 320kbps and they have a novel payment method as you pay for bandwith used and not for individual tracks which actaully works out quite a lot cheaper.

I think I'll be using this site for my upcoming wedding and bar mitzvah gigs :-)

It is a dodgy Russian site. Doesn't matter what paper you read about it in, it's run by the russian mafia and is almost certainly illegal to use outside of Russia.

Are you sure about that? How do you know?

Well, you wanna be somewhat careful saying those things, radish. Not all Russian sites are being run by the Russian mafia. Some sites belong to former members of the KGB...

OK, so s/mafia/gangsters/, same difference.

As for the legality issue, it's very straightforward. If you want to distribute copyrighted material, you need the copyright holder's permission. Typically this is done via a local agency, in the US the RIAA do this, in Russia it's their equivalent. They can license you to distribute stuff only within their region. So sure, allofmp3.com have probably paid the fees to distribute content within Russia. But as soon as you export that content to the US, well then it becomes unlicensed, and thus, illegal. That's why iTMS can only be used in a couple of places (US & Europe only I think), because Apple haven't negotiated deals with all the regional organizations. It's also why the great website cdwow.com (which sold very cheap CDs to the UK market) was taken to court - they were importing physical CDs from Asian markets where they are cheaper and reselling them in the UK. They were doing exactly what you're doing at allofmp3, except in larger amounts and with physical disks.

KGB aren't gangsters.

I'd better tell the groom he should expect chin stroking techno and hands in the air trance! There goes my pay day.

I'm not talking about the KGB, I'm talking about former members of the KGB. According to several of my colleagues (many of who are Russian), many "borderline legal" businesses were set up after the fall of the USSR and the disbandment of the various secret services. The people involved used to be hitmen, interrogators, etc, so it's not surprising that they didn't exactly move into regular work.

The KGB are still watching you, you know :)

You can download some of my group's music on mp3 and some of my music at www.meanttomove.com or www.myspace.com or www.download.com or www.myspace.com or www.thebassment.com .. check it all out!

Great site, man. But I think there's a separate thread for self-promotion somewhere. At least what I know this thread is strictly reserved for commercial. Don't know what kind of music your group plays, but check out Diva's thread here www.scratchlive.net

Ohhh... sorry, i thought that this was thread to get legal mp3s.. thanks!

Yeah, it sort of is. Links to big legal mp3-sites and stuff, where you often have to pay for what you get. Do check out that site I posted where you can get free samples if you're into turntablism.

Does ANYONE know of a legal Hip Hop(Beatnuts, GangStarr, The Roots) download site that actually offers high quality MP3's? Heck, just mp3's for that matter. I go to something like Mp3.com and I'll get offered a WMA file - IT'S CALLED Mp3.com FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! As for Ogg Vorbis, not a CLUE - Unless I do it myself.

Hey Javier, I make my own edits too. Hit me up on IM and we can trade: BroiledLambChops

djtwix@gmail.com

Is there any way to send private messages to people on this board?

Not at the moment, RiceCube.

I don't really see what this has to do with legal sources of MP3s, but still, it's good that people are hooking up. Anyway, didn't you post the same thing in another thread?

sounds like chop ship is open bayyybeee.

that would be shop......i'm faaaaaded

Ninja-style, you know...

for me...it isn't even worth checking out the site if they don't offer at least 320 bitrate. i would prefer to have uncompressed tracks though. beatport and edmdigital are prob my favs as they offer uncompressed tracks (either through FLAC or WAV files) and have a fairly decent catalog. also, don't forget that you can download the entire Bedrock catalog from their new digital download site...at 320 bitrate.

www.bedrock.uk.net

Very nice. Cheers feniks!

on a really random note..maybe, just on a very off chance someone might know where...i checked beatport and edmdigital, as well as a few others...but i'm trying to find "slanty" by stanton warriors. looked on ebay for the vinyl (found it, but overseas only) any breakbeat junkies have any guess where i might be able to find it digitally? i shoulda snagged it when it was a new release. DOH!

that is way to much. i long ago bought a $200 stand alone cd burner to record sets. if you have a lot of vinyl, this investment would pay off rather quickly, as you can easily burn your vinyl, import it, as well as other sources you may have for tracks.

gemm.com is a good place to look for back cat.

if you are a PD, SM, or are on commercial radio you can go here wwww.newmusicserver.com you have to apply and they will email you back about gaining access. its all radio cleans and 256k or higher usually.

synystr, is this a legal site?

Interesting "formats" though. Country Christmas. LOL...

yes, but like i said you have to be a PD, MD or on commercial radio. its a service provide to radio stations. alot of the radio edits on air are from this site. you can't just go there and log on you have to be given permission and be approved to download from them. it is supported by the labels.

any place to download/buy hip hop singles/instrumentals, party breakbeats, and bootlegs (ie...mixfactor, wickedmix, breaks r' us, etc....)???? ive already transfered all my vinyl to my computer, but i really dont wanna have to buy any more vinyl.

Hmmm......
So how much would you pay to have your music encoded?

Hip Hop, R&B mp3 singles same layout as 12" vinyl
it's a new site that just started they dont have much right now, but i heard they will be getting more as fast as vinyl comes out.

www.cdianda.com

Guys and girls (any on here) I'm serious. How much would you pay to have your vynal encoded? Doing bussiness research here :)

I don't know anyone who would let someone else do their vinyl encoding... sorry.

vynal... I don't have any ;)

vynal lol you know what I meant.
Ok. thanks Detroit.

www.digitaldeejay.com

www.allofmp3.com

nice russian site (with english link in the top left)

mostly commercial stuff but at .02 cents per mb download and various on-the-fly encoding abilities it's worth it.

as far as the legallity, it's still a gray area...but you ARE paying for stuff and therefore it's not a p2p site.

the question is whether the $ is actually going to the artists or labels as they say some of it is.

who knows. i'm just saying it's a nice alternative and paying in roubles isn't so bad.

i'm buying stuff while it's still around.

:)

haha search the forum for allofmp3. you're actually better of pirating music because the russian mafia runs that site. if you're in the US it makes no sense. from their TOS:

I thought that was common knowledge...

Try limewire.com

Great site to download music and videos and very easy to use. Connection is very fast. If you pay 19.00 US funds your connections will be even quicker.

Geeman2026, this thread is only for *Legal* sources of MP3s.

is there anywhwrre where i can download battle records?

www.warprecords.com

for those who like their mad fucked up tunes.....

Skint got their own online store up www.skint.net

Where did they go?

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And this is down too?

:(

Is there a pure hip hop / R&B / Reggae digital site???

iTunes Store sucks. - For reggae?

Anyways - what about napsters new deal what do you guys think? $15 a month unlimited downloads.

You have to own a Napster approved player, and with that there are limitations as to where the file can be LEGALLY transferred to.

In other words, it sucks.

Also alot of the REAL hardcore Dancehall reggae companies have begun to post their latest riddims on FTP's. Since CDR's are taking over the sound system circuit, there's less demand for these labels to cut specials/dubplates on real vinyl.

I've heard about this for three or four years, but I've nevercome across one. The sound system circiut can bbe very secretive about where they source their music.

A friend of mine that uses CDDJ's, get riddims that I've never heard or that are only a few days old (They will have been debuted on Robbo Ranx's show only a few days earlier). I ask him where he gets them and his response is like, "I got people".

wtf?

They also post the riddims to some top secret IRC channels ...

Yeah - he is on IRC or belongs to one of the very secreative MP3 groups - which are hard to join. But they get and share everyting.

Hey guys just to let ya know there is a new site that carries a ton of hip hop music great for cd dj's or ssl users. Here is an updated list at www.cdianda.com

FEBRUARY WEEK 4
Common - The Corner
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella

Do Or Die Ft. No I.D- Be Allright
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella

Do Or Die - U Already Know
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella

Faith Evans - Again
1.Clean
2.Instrumental
3.Acapella

Fat Joe - So Much More
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental

Fat Joe - Safe to say (Da Incredible
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental

Guerilla Black Ft. Hot Dolla - Say What
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella

Lil Mo Ft. Lil Wayne - Hot Girls
1.Clean
2.Instrumental
3.Acapella
4.Tv Track

Lil Mo Ft. Miri Ben Ari - Yeah, Yeah
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella
5.Tv Track

Jae Millz Ft. Swizz Beats - Streetz Meltin
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental

Jae Millz - Who?
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental

Mashonda - Back Of Da Club
1.Clean
2.Instrumental
3.Acapella

Omarion - Touch
1.Clean
2.Instrumental
3.Acapella

Slim Thugga - I Aint Heard Of That
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella

Slim Thugga Ft. T.I & Bun B - 3 Kings
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella

Smitty - One Time
1.Clean
2.Dirty
3.Instrumental
4.Acapella

I should have put this list sooner but here it is. Enjoy!!
1. www.audiojelly.com
2. www.beatport.com
3. www.bedrock.uk.net
4. www.cdianda.com
5. www.cytopia.org
6. www.dance.com
7. www.dancetracksdigital.com
8. www.digibag.com
9. www.digidisco.com
10. www.digitaldeejay.com
11. www.digitaljaymusic.com
12. www.djdownload.com
13. www.dancetracksdigital.com
14. www.edmdigital.com
15. www.electronicscene.com
16. epitonic.com
17. futuretrax.net
18. www.karmadownload.com
19. www.ministryofsound.com
20. www.mp3toburn.com
21. music.download.com
22. downloads.imorecords.com
23. www.kingstreetsounds.com
24. www.mp3.com
25. www.nufonix.com
26. opdance.com
27. www.playittonight.com
28. www.releaserecords.com
29. shop.city16.com
30. www.smart-music.net
31. www.stompy.com
32. www.strictly-digital.com
33. trackitdown.net
34. trax2burn.com
35. traxsource.com
36. www.uploud.com
37. uptownrecords.com
38. www.warprecords.com
39. westendrecords.com
40. wippit.com

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12micsn1, which companies on your list sell wav files and are the wav files for online downloading or only shipping delivery?

I use Beatport a lot, so I know about that one.

Thanks.

www.3beatrecords.co.uk
www.atsdigital.com
www.xpressbeats.com
www.anjunabeats.com

For everyones information- Allofmp3.com is NOT run by the russian mafia. Thats the most paranoid ridulous thing i ever heard...haha...
Allofmp3 can sell mp3s for that price because they buy the blanket licenses for the music- exactly what radio stations buy to be able to play that music...therefore its really cheap.

that sounds dodgy to me as well!

The licensing for selling music (in most countries) is not the same as the license for playing music on a radio. Selling music involves a mechanical copyright, where as playing music on a radio involves loyalties for performing rights. The tracks sold on Allofmp3 are unlikely to be legal in any other country.

well- perhaps so...although, I'm payin for them, so they ain't got sheet on me.

Ok is cdianda a legal record pool or not?
I don;t want to be the next RIAA poster child.

Digitaldeejay.com offline?
Anyone know why?

Not to be picky but receiving (let alone paying for) stolen merchandise comes with Jail time in the states.

that`ll impress em in the showers....

big man with glint in his eye:

"what you in for?"

Hologram:

"downloading illegal Mp3`s"

big man with glint in his eye:

"could you kindly pick the soap up please"

what sites good for uncompressed audio dance tracks?

And I'd do it again too so stand back!

The german quality label Kompakt now also has an mp3 shop:
www.kompakt-mp3.net

eh?

alright then, which of these shops has wavs or aif or flac?

Guess you never herd Eddie Murphies skit on going to jail for something stupid. :)

:D This is a dream come true :D

Do they have their whole back catolog online....actually nevermind...I'm gonna check it out right now...yippee!

Someone please pinch me, cuz I must be dreaming ;)

Yes, it really great. Especially for the older backstock which you can't get on vinyl anymore.

Yeah, and at a great price per track as well. Great...there goes all my extra cash ;)

Oh my dear... I can see the prices for SSL going up to finance your shopping tours ;-)

Yeah right, I wish :P But, I will take donations if anyone is interested ;-) hehe

Hopefully Perlon, Force Inc, Salz, M-nus Inc., PIAS and etc will have MP3's for sale soon as well :D

The whole Submerge (Underground Resistance's distribution wing) catalog will soon be available for digital download... that could be quite interesting.

Aaah man....Kompakt ate my money :( I gave them my CC info and all, but the download never happened....crap!

Anyone else having the same issue?

PS I'm using a Mac

Did you send them an email about this? They sure will look after it.

Yep, I emailed 'em...I'm sure it will be taken care of, thanks :-)

You've got good taste Shaun!!


Madness! Let us know when that happens..

Thanks, being you recognize those labels, I'm sure you have the same great taste in music. I'm glad we're not the only ones on this board with an eclectic taste in music :D

****************
cdianda.com is NOT legal.....

Techs,
Not in defense of them but why?
I thought they were a legit record pool?

-Hologram

I must admit I got a "dodgy" impression when I went there...

Come check out the mixes at

www.allstarmixshow.com

email them , ask them if its legal, and they'll tell you its not.
again, CDIANDA.com is ILLEGAL, and i would recommend you do not download their music.

just my two cents.

I did email them and they said they were working with record labels and would have the agreements on their site soon.
That's why I ask. Oh well have 002R will encode myself.

me too!

if it wasn't already straightened out: for the kompakt site if you're on a mac, use Firefox. their site does not like safari.

re Minus: check beatport

legal....not legal....my head hurts!!!
i say, go with 100% garaunteed legal source.
that's right kids. bust out those casio keyboards from your childhood. modify those "speak 'n' spells," record sound clips of your friends after 6 shots of tequila....
yep...its time to make your own electro-fried goodness, dirty hip hop beats, vibin' raggae chants, and epic trance lines. THE REVOLUTION STARTS WITH YOU!!!!!!!!
BWA HA HA HA HA
<<opens reason 2.5>>
<<stares blankly at the screen>>
screw this i'm going for kripsy kreme.

never a truer word has been spoken....

but.....what is a kripsy kreme?

melt in your mouth donuts....

mmmmmmmmm krispy kreme....droool.

Intelligent Minimal Techno... Netlabel. All mp3 downloads are free... they have 6 releases, and some field recordings available for download.

www.unfoundsoundrecords.com

;)

Hello all, where can I find a MP3 site that sells the old skool deep house labels like busta groove and aqua boogie? Does Traxsource sell it? Thanks!

Most of the links to mp3 sites on this thread lead to sites that specialize in electronic or urban music. Does anybody know of any site where I can purchase/download old school freestyle music or tracks of the eighties?

I'm guessing the iTunes music store would be good for 80's stuff...

www.vibrationrecords.com
New store selling tracks from a couple of drum & bass labels I like: Inperspective and Vibez.

Yeah I keep looking for a good mp3 site. The problem is I spin breaks, but a huge variety. I like stuff from electro-80s breaks, to old skool rave breaks to acid breaks to funky breaks to Nu Skool to Ploddy breaks. I can never find a site that offers some of everything. This is just me bitching..thats what discussion boards are for right? ;-)

Then again, in all fairness I gave up after about 15...beatport seems to be the best so far, but I wish the previews were a bit higher on the quality.

Yeah, Beatport is really pretty much has a good selection of tracks, but the pricing of certain tracks are ridiculous. Just because a one-minute track is considered a selection, I have to pay the same price as one that is longer.

12micsn1 mentioned www.nufonix.com
This looks pretty good, most tracks are 320k CBR MP3s.
house, techno, minimal stuff, breaks, downtempo etc.

Nice one :D Thanks for the heads up 12micsn1!

where can i get just plain beats/break beats/ to scratch to??? some good sounding ones???Or maybe some samples...looked through a few couldnt find anything.....Nick

FiddYNick: are you related to FiddYCent? :)

If you have Garageband installed on your computer, you can use the 1000s of loops that come with it.

Not at all i hate 50 secnt..I own a 50cc dirtbike that has tons of money in it and is my common scrren name i use....and thank you...Nick

FiddYCent ...... LOL

Sorry on the bad spelling i was in a hurry. and s42000 "shut up"

www.rohformat.de

*I recommend following the link sites to find more gold.... AAAaaarrrr!!! In one morning I ended up with at least a dozen new albums for free.... Mostly minimal/techno/ambient -but very good quality!

Anybody know of any sites that specialize in records that have been sampled?
break beats, rare grooves, etc. I'm lookin for the originals to all the classic hip hop shit...

I have been finding that lots of labels (for example www.intecrecords.com) are selling there own stuff. Use www.discogs.com to find the URL's of the labels.

I have also been emailing loads of records labels asking when their tunez will be available. The more people who do this they will soon get the message that there is a real demand for high quality mp3's.

Link is for a copy of 15 gigs of new club hiphop reggae soul, funk mp3s that include instrumentals. The cost is $150 for 15 GIGS!!!!!!

www.craigslist.org

ILLEGAL!!!

:-(

blatantly illegal.....

We want legal high quality stuff only!!!

oooppps!! the list has everything! better stay away from that then.....

...

=

Crappy quality unorganized left overs from when he had napster in 7th grade

$150 for everything?

sounds too good to be true!

lol

ScratchDJ is now banned

Yay!

awwwww thats a bit stiff.....

at least give the man a warning...

They already did. When you register for the forum, you agree to a certain set rules and principals.

amen

www.tidydigital.com

if you are into ninja tune check this one out:

[url]www.bleep.com[/url]

Found one..

www.tunetribe.com

www.franksonique.de
www.planetdance.de

It seems to me legal downloads are a pain in the butt, some tracks can be found, some can't, most sites only offer access to a few record labels, some record labels only sell through their own site, some record labels don't offer digital downloads at all and even if you can find the track you want you can't always get it at a good quality bitrate.

It's a complete mess! And they wonder why peer2peer is so popular!

Beatport, Karmadownload and imodownload are ok but other than that, until the record labels can get their act together and offer all, or at least most, tunes in one online store I'm sticking with Soulseek.

It would be cool if one service bundled all the current ones into a simple search-pay-download interface.

Yeah, an all in one search interface would be great it would save the hassle of searching through numerous sites.

If anyones into UK old skool rave/hardcore/jungle and breaks then www.beats24-7.com is worth a try. They don't offer digital downloads as such but you can create you're own custom cd. It's all legal and is run by DJ Slipmatt who's a bit of legand in the UK rave scene.

oooo DJ slipmatt....brings back fond memories...whistle krew hornes krew? im not ashamed to admit i clothed myself in white gloves and flourescent atire back in the day

haha me too! If you ever want to reminice about the old days the forums on www.backtotheoldskool.co.uk is good place to hang out - my username there is Milwaukees-Junglist. ;-)

Oh and I've just noticed that www.beats24-7.com say they're introducing digital downloads around June 2005 so watch this space.

im still looking for a site for rnb & hip-hop (in fact most music thats in the billboard singles chart) that SSL can play - going thru the above messages - i couldnt find any.... did i miss it??? any step-arounds for this? Maybe download from (insert site here) then convert to standard mp3?!?!?!?

www.cdianda.com seems to be mostly hip-hop

And it looks very suspicious...

It is a scam site... don't use it.

ok, with itunes and its aac format - is this lossless? and couldnt i download tracks, burn to cd, then rip to mp3?

No, aac is a lossy encoder as well. You can download, burn and rip, thats possible.

*sigh* maybe SSL can strike a deal with all the major labels so SSL users can DL lossless new music!!! "it was all a dream...."

I'm sure we'll see the Labels get on board more and more...
But in the meantime I still buy all my House on Vinyl, rip it and then sell some of it....

www.dancerecords.com

Best House Music around!!

You know thaty technically that is illegal. . .

ps- not that I care, because I do that too.

Yep, if you sell the vinyl its not allowed to hold the mp3s.

OH Shit....really?

Thanks for the heads up.

Booooooo!

Ummm....err....what if I keep a Picture of the actual Record?
LOL

P.S. What do you guys think of the new Technology on the New Dave Matthews Band CD? (Sign of whats to come)

You can't rip it at all!
I feel that if you puchase the CD, you should be able to move it onto your HD or Ipod as long as you don't give it away/fileshare.

Its funny, we in europe are allready used to that :( There are lots of CDs sold which are copyprotected, matter of fact, they dont play in many pc cd drives, like dvd plaers, or even car cd players cant play back those CDs. So I cant even rip the CDs to mp3 to play them back with my car mp3 player.
I mean, sometimes I understand why people download mp3s illegaly. What the industry is doing with us PAYING customers is ridicilous. The one who buys a CD cant listen to the track in his car, while the illegal nonpaying mp3 downloader has no such problems. RIDICULOUS.

Damn the man.

I'd like to add how damn cheap they make CD's now....
You look cross eyed at the fugger and it has a scratch, inserting it in an automobiles CD player, the rollers can easily mar it up. WHY BUY a 2 cent foiled piece of plastic that's going to scratch the moment it hits the air.... to hell with that!!!

nik - sorry to hear that you actually have to deal with that crap.

I refuse to buy CD's now, refuse to pay any WWW music site that encrypts the music, and just getting sick of all the hype on how people are stealing. I cannot count the number of songs I waited, unpaused a tape and recorded off the radio. Back then the DJ's actually would say the name of the song and then play the tune...... Perfect recordings everytime. Never ever heard any BS about copyright infringement....

They have started using copyprotected cds in the states as well, so keep your eyes open. I hope those fu**ing companies get sued for doing such crap with paying customers.

funny, ive come across copy protected cds in australia, yet so far ive been able to rip all but one cd. The one that i wasnt able to rip, was N.E.R.D. - Fly Or Die. i had to record this to a wav file, then divide it export to mp3

i cant believe this....the industry has taken anough of a battering without shooting itself in the foot again.

try and stay on topic in the stickies lads!

**VERY Random/off topic Question** I'm relatively new to DJing. I have Denon Dn-S1000 CD/MP3 decks and a Denon DNx300 mixer. As far as i have read most Serato owners use vinyl turntables as opposed to CD decks. I can see the obvious advantage of not having to carry around all those vinyls with the Serato, but does it make sense to get the Serato if you spin mostly MP3 CDs already? I mean i'm hoping that the Serato can eliminate the sound drop out that occasionaly occurs with my MP3 CDs. Will the scratch live eliminate those mortifying sound drops and what are the other advantages of Serato for CD spinners? I would appreciate any feedback very much!

Please make a new thread about that, man. I think the mods are trying to keep these threads as clean as possible.

Ok what's up with www.247downloads.com Is it legal? If so, how much is it. Do they Charge per song or per month? How is the bit rate and do they have a lot of Hip Hop- R&B- 80's etc....?

Nope.

www.247downloads.com

A nice site that is a master-list of digital DJ music sources:

www.djmp3sites.com

Here is a new one:

www.resonantvibes.com

I think it is a lesson in site design - clean, fast, doesn't drag the user into a mire of Flash.

Their catalog is a bit limited at this early stage, but there was still enough to keep me interested.

Yo guys...I finally found a pretty good source for hip hop & r&b songs. Go to Limewire.com. Make sure to set preferences to high quality only (4 star) and for all those mix records search for funkymix. Peace.

Topic is "Legal sources of MP3s", limewire is not legal at all.

lol @ ant and limewire. :)

Oops. I guess I'll stop using it. Hey sixxx, are you from SD by any chance?

No ant. The guy from San Diego is Sixx I think. I'm Sixxx (which happens to be my real name too.) :)

so you're not this guy then - www.nikkisixx.tv

*phew*

*lol*

sixxx, you look... funky ;)

lol @ josh!

Wow....someone is sitting on a goldmine if they can turn a site such as Turntablelab.com or hiphopsite.com into what was done at www.traxsource.com Someone get on that! hah...yeah right.

I joined "www.therecordpool.com" which is totally legal but it's hit or miss with what they provide weekly. I'm there for the Hiphop and RnB but they also offer tehcno and house. Check it out I think it's at least worth the look...

www.dance-tunes.nl

Legal, and holds some of the bigger dance labels in The Netherlands. It's got a lot of labels, and it's got a pre-pay option too. You get free tunes when you pre-pay more tunes (25 free with 100 tunes). Prices for most tunes are 0.99 euro.

www.bumsquaddjz.com
check it out

this thread has alot of good information. thanks.

does anyone know of digi dl sites that have proper hiphop music? funk music? soul music?

thanks for your input.

this is not mp3's, abut alot of good single's and LP's, 1 dollar shipping to canada and not sure thruout us. sandbox.pair.com enjoy :D

o ya, will list what is on each one, like Aceyalone "Lost Your Mind (prod. RJD2)|dci/The Saga Continues (feat. Abstract Rude)
|vi" 12" [$6] Project Blowed/Decon (PBDC001) the dci being dirty clean instrumental on side A and a vocal and instrumental of the B side.

drilla, I've been quite surprised at the range of tracks on emusic:

www.emusic.com

Cheap and reliable.

custom,

yeah i know about sandbox...i actually used to fax them orders and walk over there and pick up my records...that place is so dope...wall to wall records...its awesome. but i dont need it anymore so fuck em...haha..just kidding. i always thought to myself if they began to offer digi downloads with the same variety of hiphop, they would do very, very well.

djhsl,

i just read the site...i cant find where it says anything about the bitrate..i only want 320 mp3's or cd quality wav files. it says they offer high quality mp3's so hopefully that means 320... do you have this info? thanks alot.

i would by everything from them if they did. EVERYTHING. Anyway, how long does it take if you fax a order and everything is in stock, i have a girl friend that is going to ny this weekend, i wonder if i called them and pleaded she could pick up a order for me? think they could do a in house order in 3 days?

yeah i used to deal with a nice lady named "happy". i would call and ask her if she could pull the records that morning...i would walk over after work around 6 or so and they would be ready.

good luck dude.

so i used the free offer...d/l'ed 50 cuts for free...that was cool. they do have a nice selection but it seems the bitrates vary alot. ranged from 120 to 225. i sent them a note when i cancelled and asked them to up it to 320.

"I'm curious as to whether or not there are sources for buying vinyl ripped mp3s"

Are you just looking for individual tracks? Or complete EP's?

Fanos try...

www.djdownload.com - probably best for nu-skool breaks

Also go to discogs.com search for you fav labels as lots are providing the downloads themselves and not going through a third party site.

The breaks genre has embraced the digital thing more than most so you should be able to find tons of tracks by

meat katie, dylan rhymes, Drummatic Twins, plump dj's, Freestylers etc.


R.

fanos, check releaserecords.com and trackitdown.net as well.

There is a record store that I heard thru the grapevine is gonna start a mp3 record pool. Ultrasounz Records out of the bay area. Looking for feedback on who wants memberships...

DJ JRAMA

I have a page I made with a pretty good list, thanks everyone for your excellent contributions.

www.stencilp.com

Sorry guys I put the wrong page, heres the right one.

www.stencilp.com

i dont see much downtempo, trip hop, jazzfunk, acid jazz... any suggestions?

Im down to be in this mp3 record pool. Count me in if it goes through

me too

CHECK OUT WWW.METHODMIXXL.COM FOR DJ FRIENDLY REMIXES!

If you have a Tax ID# or a letter showing a DJ residents in a club or radio, you can call record labels direct and they will send you promos (CD's or Vinyl) and a template report to fill out like once or twice a month for feedback. this might be a good way to knockout major labels and focus more on diggin' for the goodies (hard to find/Out of print). Hope this might help.

-Diamond Tip

Even though its not live yet, keep an eye out for Juno's digital assault in the new year:

www.juno.co.uk

OMG i cant wait for that!

I mostly use Beatport, and I love it!

Another vote for Beatport. My music collection has almost doubled since I found it, and all things considered I would have easily spent 6 times the amount if it was all bought on vinyl.

I like to legitimately own all of my music, but even if I was (still) a crooked music thief, Beatport would really make me consider legitimately buying them anyway...you can't steal MP3's quicker (while guaranteeing quality) than you can just buy them on Beatport. I think that's just awesome.

I wish there was something like Beatport but for hip hop. I'm mostly a House/Trance DJ but I used to play hip hop. I'd love to buy new hip hop remixes, hip hop party breaks, club bangers, extended versions and more on MP3.

It will be tight if AV8 would offer their catalog on MP3 or if Stacks offered everything they sell on MP3 too!

DjWoody et all .... You should check out www.dancetracksdigital.com

... I have switched fully to downloads now and pretty much purchased from all the stores, but these guys have the best selection, hip hop, broken beat, nu jazz.

Just found a kick'n new source.

www.detroitdigitalvinyl.com

Labels Represented.
Electrofunk
Hipnotech
Local 3000
Los Hermanos
Metroplex
Motech
Puzzlebox
Red Planet
Renaissance
Submerge Recordings
The Plan
Tunnel 7
Underground Resistance

www.bleep.com is good, I use them. shop.hospitalrecords.com has good drum n bass.

I miss the old content that used to be on mp3.com - there was some great free material then.

for you dj's that like hip hop, reggaeton, reggae, salsa, merengue, bachata and r & b
www.imperioboricua.com
www.tjsdjs.com
cost FREE

enjoy "DJ SUSPENCE"

PS. IMPERIOBORICUA IS IN SPANISH BUT NOT HARD TO FIND SONGS

I think this will Be BIG in future...
DOWNLOAD.DMCWORLD.COM

www.vonyc.com

run by Paul van Dyk, so good if you are into that sort of thing.

you guys know of any good sites like beatport.com for trance and techno? I love that site but has territorial errors - what's with not being able to buy some mp3s just because you live in a certain country...

nikolozi, that really PISSES ME OFF! I'll hear a badass track, then try to add it to the track...territory error--ARGH!!

Where are you at? I'm in the USA and I've only come across it a handful of times, but man was I annoyed.

I know what you mean... I'm in New Zealand.

Fortunetly I found some at www.trackitdown.net and was able to download no problem. But would be good to know more sites like that... I'm trying to get my hands on S.O.S (sander van doorn mix), no luck so far...

Funny, I was just thinking of posting the same Beatport question... I've downloaded hundreds of tunes from there, I like the site and there is a lot on it but the territorial errors, navigation not working and downloading 2 files at a time really gets to me at times!!! I'd rather not see the track if I cant download it...

I'm trying to get Funky Breaks / House & Prog and I'm currently trying to find an alternative site... Anyone?

You'd think this day and age you would be able to get any digi track you wanted if you were willing to pay!

I can't seem to find lots of tracks some really commercial, funny thing is they are all on P2P but I'd rather pay and get goood quality legal files.

Why don't all the record labels have a downloads store surely its a viable option now...?

Funky House everywhere on this site!

Check out www.methodmixxl.com

WELL PEOPLE I'M SO EXITED TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS THAT LAST NIGHT I PLAYED WITH SSL AT THE BIGGEST LATIN PARTY IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK AND I HAVE TO CONFESS THAT SSL IS BETTER THAN SEX... WELL ALMOST. I JUST WISH THE LETTERS ON THE PLAY LIST WOULD BE A LITTLE BIGGER ,THIS IS SOMETHING THAT RANE WOULD CONSIDER EVEN THOUGH I WAS USING A 15" APPLE POWER BOOK.

Hip Hop! I am still on the look out for a good Hip Hop site to buy legit Mp3. Preferably with acc. and instrumentals. Anyone?

yo Fragancia, just curious when you said biggest latin party, how many people were you talking bout?

I've got to give www.trackitdown.net a reccomendation. If you like your nu-skool breaks check it out, I've had loads of great tracks from there and all at 320kbps.

Also worth checking for nu-skool and bassline breaks are

warehousewax.labelshop.org
cyberfunkshop.com
fuckedupnorth.labelshop.org
hardcorebeats.labelshop.org
downloads.imorecords.com
www.djdownload.com
www.breakbeatworldwideshop.com

word up.

Amen bro. There isnt SH*T out there. Mostly Dance,Trance,Electro,stuff witch I dont do.

THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN...........


Join Digiwaxx.com and hustle to get sent promos, if you can bullshit labels into sending u cd singles, you will have origional source wich is 10 times better than having just a bunch of mp3s.
CD singles will be easier to score because its cheaper to make and send than vinyl

Rember mp3 will not be around forever, but a source CD can be converted to so many things.

I MEAN THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON....

rockaton, what's your advice on getting labels to send you stuff?

sorry, ROCTAKON is what i meant...

juno is selling mp3s now

Juno selling mp3s?
I can't find them, only a contact page for labels...

found the digital tab, although the catalog is a bit limited at the moment

Does anyone know an Urban mp3 pool (like a record pool) where you can pay & download music?

Just an addition to my last post. I am looking specifically for Canadian DJ's.

Has anyone downloaded any tracks off of www.cdianda.com ?

Do all of these tracks work with SSL?

I have ordered SSL and I am awaiting the arrival. Would love to start getting tunes now !

This is the only site listed with up to date Hip Hop tunes.

welcome to the fam Unite!

Why Thankyou !

Serato should dave me some $$ in the long run as I am spending over $60.00 a week on records right now... Plus I hear great things.

I just want to make sure I am going to be grabbing my tracks from the correct websites. I wnat to make sure they work..

cdandia besides probably being illegal has horible quality and mediocre track selection.

But regardless of anything else, it just sounds like ass.

www.digiwaxx.com hip hop rnb site join 2day its the bomb!!!!!!!!!

Digiwaxx is mos definitely a great spot for MP3s. They send you an email anytime they get a new joint. You listen to the joint and give feedback and then you have access to D/L the joint.

Word. Digiwaxx is the way a record pool is supposed to be ran. That paired with Serato is powerful music marketing. Good quality too. Only gripe is their tagging isn't consistent. They have minor typos, but I'll deal with it for the trade off in email notification, ease of use, track selection, etc... the list goes on.

yeah guys anybody using scratchlive and into hip hop rnb
digiwaxx is essential and run professionally if your serious about getting new banging tracks
its where to go.
there seems to be alot of us serato heads on there at the moment spread the word!!!!

I would agree the Digiwaxx is probably the best free service. The kinda lag at times but for folks not breaking new music on a constant basis, its probably right on time. If you are breaking new music, check out www.bumsquaddjz.com Its geared towards mixshow folks but if you can get in, you will benefit.

Team Marvilous Music Pool services new and remixed mp3's for DJ's and promotional usage. If you are a Serato or Final Scratch DJ, this is the music pool for you. $50 a month gets you all the hot new music under the sun, and we can't forget about the remixes!!! We won't send you a bunch of trash, we believe in quality over quantity. You can join by responding on myspace or email *************. We also have music libraries available for those that are just switching over to mp3's or those that want to beef up thier catalog.

Calling all artist. Get your music distributed through the Team Marvilous Music Pool. We will promote your music through our extended network. For more info respond on myspace or email *********************.

[email addresses removed by moderator]

ARE There any FREE rec or mp3 polls out there

I would say there are no free record pools out there...if you are doing your thang, its possible to get free records from the labels, but you either have to be a mixshow dj or a club dj at the only club in a one horse town....

Digiwaxx.com is free. Check them out. You get email notifications when they receive new tracks.

is there anything else out there like DIGIwaxx

Juno have added loads of ace releases. The whole Azuli back catalogue is on there now if your into House music.

Look good... However, they too have "You cannot buy this product in your country"

THIS PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just like promoonly and almost any other music online store. :( Sucks very much.

Yeah, music is music, what does it matter where your from. Sounds bloody racist to me!!!

Has anyone managed to get around this territorial restriction?

They probably check your IP address, thats something you can get around. But you will fail when they ask you about your creditcard details... unless they accept paypal (or any payservice where they dont need your physical address), that might work.

Some of the labels... including 9records.com offer their own mp3 downloads. That might be one of the reasons. Found a track i wanted they didn't allow me to buy, then i found it on the labels website and dl'ed from there. Might wanna check some of the individual labels for other sources of downloading. I know Juno will be offering many more mp3's soon.

Juno needs a web based mp3 player... But apart from this it could be a good alternative to beatport.

I figured this would be the place to put this...but there is a new Los Angelas based web record pool going up. It is going to be a Mp3 record pool in which all of the new realeases from most of the major record labels will be pooled and sent out to all the subscribers. It is going to run about 50.00 a month and it will all be sent in mp3 format. It will be all new releases from all of the major records companies. Sign up for the mailing list to get more info when it comes up...the website is.... www.my12inch.com... post questions if you have them.

-Peace

Slim I thought you wanted to open at 6th march? How legal is this pool? Do you have the rights to publish and sell the songs?

this is not my record pool dog...lol...I aint about it. I just got the information from a DJ in Los Angeles from Power 106...he has talked to records companies...and is getting together rights as we speak. He is working on making it all happen...and it will be all legit...completely ligit. I dont know much more about it...but it is supposed to start sometime this summer...ill keep everyone posted. What about open at 6th march? What r u talking about...

It was supposed to open on the 6th of march.

You wrote to post questions, thats why I assumed you are a part of that pool.

oh...well i know a little bit about it...but not much...do you know about it? How did you know it was supposed to open the 6th of march?

Huh? I thought you were delivering the answers, and not me :) However, until mid of this week it said that it will open on the 6th of march.

lol...well I just know about it. I heard from an inside source from the DJ who is starting it. I was just news that was passed along to me..I am working on getting more news....ill keep you all posted.

-Slim

Hi there
What is the best source of 1990-2000 singles?

Of course hip hop.

My12inch.com is now up. I'm debating hopin in the pool.

my12inch.com is all good. if you are a radio dj, you get a free membership. they got everything from the all the labels. clean, dirty, instrumental and acapellas. no need to search around for all the new music. i recommend!!!!!

I joined last nite. Only thing though, you can download the latest joints, but for older joints you gotta pay a $1 each joint. I don't consider Juelz Santana "There It Go" to be that old and warrant $1, but other than that you are dead on about the website. I got me some joints off of there last nite I needed. Lookin forward to gettin more music.

Oh dang DJ Enrie from POWER106. Big ups bro.

I thought they charge a "flat" fee of $50?

Nik,

Per month it's $50 and it's a $1 per song in addition to the $50 you've already paid when grab somethin from Diggin In The Crates. I'm givin it a shot this month, but I don't know if I'll return next month. They got a nice selection of songs, but if you need something that's not new and don't want to spend a $1 a song then it may not be your spot.

ransom, thanks for the info. Do they have real old tracks in DITC or just some "old" club tracks from lets say the last 2 years?

Is it really free if you're a radio DJ

Let me check on that DITC for you Nik. I'm not a radio DJ so I had to pay. I don't recall reading anything on their website stating that if would be free if you were a radio DJ, but then again I could be wrong. BRB.

Damn, I keep getting a server error here at the job, but I used it at home w/o problem this morning. The oldest joint I checked on last nite was Petey Pablo's "Freek A Leek". DITC allows you type in either the Artist, Song Title, Year, BPM, etc. I usually type in the artist and it comes up. I'll get more in depth later on tonite when I get home from work. I'll check and see if they have ATCQ, Lords of the Underground, Jungle Brothers, etc.

what kbps are the mp3's?

192

All songs at 192? Which encoder? Also instrumental+acc? I personally think $1 for one song w/o all the versions is too much. Imagine you would buy a complete 12" which usually has 6 tracks, that would make it $6 for a digital version. That is too much.

I believe they are encoded w/ LAME. I'm @ work now so that's off the top of my dope. They're all encoded @ 192. You would be right Nik that it is too much and that's my gripe. You only are able to d/l the latest tracks on there for the $50 a month. I'll stick w/ Digiwaxx. I'll ride this month out to see how it turns out since I've paid already.

Keep us updated, please. :) Digiwaxx seem to be very nice, I've browsed through the tracks list so far and they do have a couple of club bangers listed.

I definitely will do so. Some of the tracks on Digiwaxx come w/ instrumentals as well. It's definitely worth registering for Nik. It's totally free and they email you anytime they get a new track.

Thanks I am already registered, thats why I said that I found some "older" bangers which seem to be pushed through digiwaxx as well.

Sometimes they can be a little late on joints as well, but better late and free than never. I was surprised they just dropped that Chris Brown "Yo" a couple of weeks ago. It's cool because I needed the instrumental anyway.

hey, when you guys registered, did you get your confirmations emails (the link to the secure site for payment) right away? i registered this morning, and now, almost 10 hours later, still haven't received anything from them...i'm figuring to try it for a month myself.

Did take more than 10 hours for me.

I got my confirmation right away. I paid and I was in. Good luck.

i finally got mine. i've noticed, though, that the tracks are varying rates from 128 - 320 kbps. most are 192, though...

soulchoice.ca

iLL, do you mean variable bitrates or constant bitrates which vary from 128kbps to 320kbps?

constant bitrates...some songs (most) are 192, the next biggest chunk seems to be 320. so far i think i have maybe 2 at 128 from about 60 downloaded. i'd say it's about 75% @ 192, 22% @320, and 3% @ 128.....i also seem to have a problem with previewing the tracks. not sure if it's my computer, my prefs, or the site itself....but about every 15-20 minutes, i lose the ability to hear the tracks, and i have to quit out of safari and reopen it and log in again for the flash player to start working again. but all in all, i'm pretty satisfied with this service so far.

Yeah, the site is not finished yet, that is a bit unprofessional. If you click www.my12inch.com <- here, you can see the tomcat default start page, which is a bit, lets say, unusual.

128kbps is bad, charging $1 for such crap even more. Looks like like someone did not do his homework.

That is the same problem I encounter as well. I encountered several times last nite. Nik, you are right. $1 a track is kind of crazy in addition to the $50 a month. I wanted 2Pac's "How Do You Want It" instrumental, but I wasn't going to pay a $1 for it. I got some decent tracks off of there last nite though. Digiwaxx got that new joint by Majic Massey "Devil's Advocate" last nite and it made my evening.

i haven't checked out the digging in the crates section yet...so is it $1 for (dirty/clean/inst/acap), or are those $1 each...?

From my understanding $1 each, which is one of the problems.

Yeah it's $1 for each track which is just plain crazy to me, but again that's just me.

that's absolutely ludicrous, after paying to be in the pool in the first place.

Exactly. Out of all of the tracks available for D/L on there, I've D/L'd maybe 10% of what's on there. Hopefully the next few weeks will bring some better music. I won't be paying $50 a month though. Digiwaxx is so much better.

true..seems like the stuff i actually LIKE on my12" is also on digiwaxx...

I'm on Digiwaxx, sites tight, but not enough quality on there.

Can you elaborate?

Please elaborate. I'm hoping that my12inch.com gets updated w/ more tracks soon.

I stand corrected. They've added some new tracks on my12inch.com.

SO....all in all....who agrees on my12inch.com.....and who doesnt agree....speak on it....one word... "No"....or "Yes"....

-Slim

NO, they haven't gotten any ground breaking tracks. It's good to see that new Kanye West "Impossible" joint w/ Twista & Keyshia Cole on there, but that about it. I just don't feel it's worth $50 a month when websites such as Digiwaxx deliver the same if not better.

Anyone else.....SPEAK YOUR MIND....NO...YES....

where can old skool house

where can u get old skool house

as far as GOOD stuff, digiwaxx has everything that my12" has...and it's free. i won't be renewing at 12" after this month runs out. but it was worth a try....

Ditto.

i just signed up for my12" and i like it. The diggin n the creates is tight. i can go back and search for old songs and digiwaxx doesnt do that.

Yo, but paying $1 for each song and each version and then maybe getting songs in bad quality (128kbps)... thats not worth it IMHO.

mister iLL+ransom, does my12" have more new songs than digiwaxx?

Maybe a couple, but Digiwaxx offset those by dropping even hotter tracks that my12inch doesn't have. I refuse to pay $1 after spending $50 for a subscription. It's not even about the quality to me, it's just crazy. You may as well just make it a $1 to d/l any song you want like Itunes instead of the whole pool. Personally, I prefer Digiwaxx over my12inch.

for pure volume, my12" has at least 10 times as many songs/versions. but as far as songs i'll actually PLAY....barely a difference. and definitely not $50 worth of difference.

is there any other websites like DIGIWAXX (as in free mp3s)

Check out bumsquaddjz.com.

www.beatmatcher.net

If you own a digital download store and want to be included in out database, please contact me through the website.

how exactly does this work

what kinda of music is it

tech44, you need to provide some sort of browse capability.

The punctuation of label names isn't always consistent, and spelling can be artistic rather than conventional.

For example, the record label "basiclux" shows up in your database, but my first attempt was to type "basic lux" and this didn't show.

Add the following two functions and your site will be more useful:

1. Alphabetic list of labels, navigation to stores stocking label
2. Alphabetic list of stores, navigation to labels stocked by store

Add data like formats, bitrates, prices, etc., and your site will be MUCH more useful.

tech44, do you check whether the sites you add offer the tracks legally?

Looks good, a bit more functionality and this could be a GREAT resource.

Alright, let me try to answer a few of these:

Vigor: You search the label name and it gives you the stores that carry it. We don't have artist/title yet just to keep it simple programatically. Right now its just electronic music.

HSL: We considered browse, but thought it was redundant since you can search partial terms. ie you can put in just "a" and get all the labels that start with "a". Adding the other data you mentioned may be a possibility in the future if people find it useful, but right now, its beyond our ability. This is just a simple tool a friend and I put together in our spare time.

nik39: Yes. If we recieve reports otherwise, they will be removed.

Nat: Thanks :)

The problem isn't with eMusic (which I've been using for more than 5 years), it's with Windows. All of the music on eMusic (unless it's marked otherwise) is 192kbps VBR MP3 without any DRM. Windows doesn't properly read the ABR of VBR files so they post incorrectly. This has been an ongoing problem with Windows for a LONG time now and they don't seen interested in fixing the problem any time soon.

As for legal music sources:
eMusic.com - 192kbps vbr MP3 - NO DRM!!! (woohoo!)
allofmp3.com - ok, legal in Russia, and from what I can tell not any more illegal in the US than 'Import' CD's and vinyl. Bitrate and codec can be selected, you pay based on file size of the download. NO DRM.
mp3tunes.ru - Bitrates vary, fixed rate of 10 cents a track - legality issues are same as above, but let's not discuss licensing and copyright law in this thread.
itunes.com - AAC 128kbps w/ DRM (last I checked anyway)
Napster.com - WMA DRM
listen.com - Rhapsody - DRM
Walmart.com - 88 cent downloads - DRM
VirginDigital - DRM

There are plenty of other sites offering DRM enabled downloads as well.

However, for something FREE and completely off the wall you can check out the tracks at the Internet Archive. Lots of live sets of String Cheese Incident, Grateful Dead, and more.
www.archive.org

On a side note, if you have a DJ business you need to read the terms of use agreement on the web sites you purchase from. The quotes below are from the iTunes store but most sites have similar terms of use agreements that may limit your use of the products as a business entity (ie, commerical use):

"You shall be authorized to use the Products only for personal, noncommercial use."
"The delivery of Products does not transfer to you any commercial or promotional use rights in the Products."

If you have any questions on the legalities of their use I recommend you contact an Intellectual Property attorney familiar with licensing, copyright, and the music business to discuss the matter. And no, I'm not an IP attorney, or an attorney at all! I don't even play one on TV!

Anyone heard of www.worksessions.com

I saw the other post...NVM

cheers dj k.smith waiting on a reply.

So again, any sites for Hip Hop & instrumentals, R&B, Reggae,etc... That doesn't cost $50 dollars a month?

Here are my findings regarding My12inch.com vs Digiwaxx. Paying my12inch $50 per month for subscription is not bad depending on your background. I am a vinyl Dj that is integrating digital music into my setup. I just picked up a serato unit and I love it. My area (Bay Area, CA) we pay $7 per single on vinyl. Record pools that distribute vinyl range from $ 125 to $ 175 per month. The tracks you get through vinyl record pools are pretty much the same as what you would expect to get from my12inch and digiwaxx. Fact is that the majority of music that comes out is not worth paying $ 7 per single on vinyl. Digital vs Vinyl record pools?????.....I would rather pay $50 per month to get tracks that I could experiment with using serato than pay $125 - $ 175 a month to get vinyl that will probably sit in a storage box in my garage. The fact that Digiwaxx is free is really promising because.....well....its free! However, I signed up to my12inch in March and downloaded everything they have available which turned out to be 775 mp3's (all version's of each track). A friend of mine signed up with Digiwaxx (also in March) and downloaded everything they have available which turned out to be 363 mp3's. My12inch is obviously offering alot more than Digiwaxx. The fact that My12inch offers older/classic tracks for $ 1 per download....not a bad offer. They are a record pool company of which they added the diggin in the crates for convenience. Its there if you need it. Digiwaxx does not offer a service like this. Once they remove the tracks from their site they are no longer accessible. One other note.....as a side by side comparison......my12inch seemed to get mp3's uploaded sooner than Digiwaxx. My team logs on daily to check for new tracks. ***Bottom line, Digiwaxx as a free service is awesome and there should be no complaints about free legal music. My12inch charges $50 per month. Based on a one month comparison, my12inch offered double the amount of mp3's sooner than Digiwaxx. My12inch is a new service that launched in March from which it can only get better in the coming months. One other comparison that is not critical but it is convenient.....my12inch add's bpm and genre id tag info on all of their mp3's. Digiwaxx does not add this info on their mp3's.
Just wanted to share my findings regarding the two web sites. Both are great services for digital dj's.
---Peace

Thanks! Pretty much says it all.

Just want to comment on
This is only partly true, out of 4 songs 2 had BPM infos (digiwaxx).

Actually it goes both ways. Digiwaxx got some joints before my12inch.com and vice versa. If you tag your own MP3s then the tagging from either site is not even worth it, IMHO. Each site has it's perks though. Great post though.

djayace: Thank you. I was just wondering what the differences would be.

Thank you nik39, djransom, and deeznotes for the feed back on my long @ss review.......Does anyone know of any good sources for House music? Specifically soulful house? I have read this entire thread and tried almost all of the website's listed but I'm not sure what you guys consider to be the top 2 or 3 sites for House(soulful) music.

what about beatport?

I would say traxsource would be the best soulful house site I have found.

1. Beatport - drill down browse to House > Sub Genre > Vocal/Deep ect
2. Stompy - Use the Advanced Search

are there any other MAC compatible music download communties or sites?

Thanks for the lead jack houser. I checked out traxsource and it looks really good. I purchased some tracks and I am currently waiting for the dowload to complete. Looks like a really good source for this type of music.
I havent had a change to check out the other suggestions.

Don't buy from Beatport.com!
It's the most expensive e-shop and, even if they keep track of all your downloads, they won't let you re-download a few tracks if you need (i.e. HD failure).
In my case, I only needed 3 tracks, out of 136 bought from Beatport, and they won't let me download again without buying.

Kompakt-mp3.net, instead, let's you download everything at least three times, it's cheaper and every track comes with artwork.
Juno is getting bigger as well.

Your welcome djayace!

If your a hip hop/R&B DJ you should check out bumsquaddjz.com and also hiphophits.net

The only downside to hiphophits.net is that the sound quality is low. Everything I get from that site, I have to run thru my mp3 gain program to up the sound.

Both sites are free.

Both are most likely illegal. Check hiphophits.net . Its run by a student, and registered to a PO Box. Plus questions about how legal the service is have been ignored on the forum.

Ignored by some, but not all. Both those sites listed are definitely not legal.

Sorry, what I meant was on *their* forum the questions have been just ignored.

What do you mean they aren't legal? How do you know if sites are legal or not?

so i have checked out both digiwaxx and my12inch.com. as far as i can see, my12inch gets at least 4 times more tracks than digiwaxx. my12inch gets way more exclusive stuff also. i have gotten about 4 mobb deep leaks and 4 busta leaks. no comparison

Digiwaxx has Busta's "Touch It" plus the remixes, "NY Shit", and "I Love My Chick". It's good that my12inch.com got that "Tell Me When To Go(remix)" w/ Kanye, Game, & Ice Cube. I'm surprised my12inch hasn't gotten that new joint by Rhymefest "Stick" and Juelz Santana "King of NY".

digiwaxx has the "Tell Me When To Go" Remixes too.

I D/L'd it this morning from Digiwaxx as they have the dirty version.

There's a Clean and Instrumental too. They also finally got that Megan Rochelle track... I was wondering if they would ever get it. It's been out for a while now.

I'm feelin that joint.

That Megan Rochelle is hot. I'm suprised its just getting some buzz.

Dude, doesnt Dj Enrie run that site and he's on here acting like he's a member, lol WEAK!!!!!

Ryme, run which site? hiphophits.net?

dj Enrie, Didnt you say 12inches is fully legit? How are you allowed to offer leaks then? Leaks doesnt sound like legit versions.

It is a little odd that he has it listed as his homepage in his profile.....

smh.com.au
check this out regarding allofmp3

It's not low sound quality. A tag is written in the .mp3 to tell your computer how loud to play it. That is a "loss-less," meaning the sound-quality is un-affected.

I meant "that is a "loss-less"" option...

You kats might be interested in my myspace page,

www.myspace.com .

It's relevant to this discussion.

Also, no I'm not feigning Serato usage to sell my web-site. I've been working on this for almost two years.

I'm buying tracks I couldn't buy from beatport for like 10c...

Didn't see anybody post this one yet.
I just found www.mp3search.ru
10 cent tracks...good quality.
Think it's legal?
I just downloaded from it so it def. works.

Its a good site but there are no instrumentals, accapellas, etc. Those things are pretty vital to me.

somehow i doubt that is a legal site....10c songs, .ru domain....

The site is legal per Russian law. The legality of the site outside of Russia is debatable based on import restrictions, etc.

As for the instrumentals, a capella's, etc, you need to look for CD singles on the site to find those sorts of things. Same would apply for other sites in the RU domain and most of the US based sites as well.

i thought the debate about that was over: it's illegal to use those mp3's anywhere but russia. right?

It is as legal as buying an import record.

1. Purchase of the tracks is legal in Russia.
2. My investigation based on US laws basically put them into the same category as purchasing an Import record of any kind.
3. I did NOT investigate too deeply so laws regarding the import of copyrighted or licensed material may change my findings in #2, however thus far no one has shown anything saying any different (and I've asked a LOT of people).
4. Laws outside the US are VERY different so check your country's laws if not in the US.
5. I'm still not a lawyer, I still don't even play one on TV and recommend that you talk with legal counsel if you're wanting more information regarding legalities. I recommend finding one that's up to date on intellectual property law, licensing within the music industry, and preferably international copyright and licensing law as well.

As for the services, I've bought LOTS of tracks from allofmp3.com and mp3search.ru over the last 2 years. I've never had my credit card or paypal accounts compromised from these services, the quality is quite good overall (allofmp3.com allows you to specify the quality in most cases). Please note that if you're adding album art you often need to use the IMPORT versions of the albums to find the album art. I tend to use MediaMonkey and search the UK and DE versions of Amazon for clip art (with a pretty good success rate!).

NOTE: If you like the band purchase the album from their web site, at a concert, or using come method other than the Russian sites. The licensing rates paid by these sites is VERY low and good artists should be supported. I use the Russian sites for music I 'need' for an event but wouldn't likely buy otherwise (mostly bubble gum crap for teen dances).

Very low = non-existant. You're paying someone to cheat the original artist.



Didn't you say recently that you have purchased thousands of songs from Russian sites? Gee, you must have an amazing collection of crap.

You're making excuses for ripping off recording artists. They deserve to get paid for their work. You're using it to make money, and that isn't fair.

i have come across a site that a fellow dj lead me to. it is ran like i tunes music store, but it is compatible with sll. you have to buy the music like i tunes .99 a song and around $10 a album but they have a great selection and is updated daily.

www.burnlounge.com

"i'm rich b*t&h"

@Pelle
DRM Free?

They are paid licensing fees. It's very low, but there ARE fees paid. I went to the Russia sites and did my investigating before ever purchasing.



Yes, I do. Every time I'm asked to play a non-talent hack at a teen dance I cringe and play it while thinking about making money. I have Britney Spears, N*Sync, Backstreet Boys, Aaron Carter and plenty of other CRAP I'd love to remove from my music collection because I don't consider it music. I also have tracks I've gotten from the Russian sites I wasn't able to find elsewhere because it's imported stuff that I had problems finding in Anchorage. In this category it's mostly German groups (Tokio Hotel, Die Toten Hosen, etc) that I just haven't been able to find here. Remember that the closest record store to me is 120 miles away in Anchorage (a 4-5 hour drive depending on the weather, and the road is sometimes closed for days). I've looked at some places online without much result thus far. And if you try to point me to iTunes, Sony Connect, or Wal-Mart don't bother. I don't purchase DRM'd tunes.... I've had problems in the past with them and refuse to use them at all any more.


Yes, I am. I bought a lot of music from the Ruassian sites but I also bought over 100 cd's in the last year. I also purchased 300 tracks a month from a site based in the United States that pays far more licensing to artists. I support a LOT of artists. If I could get the import stuff where I am now I would. I'll be moving later this week and if I can buy imports after the move (within an hour drive or so) I will.

If my buying music from the Russian sites bothers you then tough. When it's illegal (it's not currently) I'll be more than happy to stop. And unlike a lot of people who don't support artists I do... my fiance would probably say I support them too much....

but isn't it illegal to USE these tracks anywhere but russia?

One BIG question about allofmp3.com and the other site, i see some of the tracks i want, but the album says its MIXED. cant deejay with a mixed track. or woudnt want to try. can you give some feedback on the albums that you have downloaded? where are the singles???

I'm constantly amazed by the lengths to which some people will go to justify their own bad behaviour. The matter of legality is one for lawyers, of which MusicMeister is not one. The matter of MORALITY is one for all DJs.

There are many recorded statements, online, from musicians and artists complaining about allofmp3 not paying royalties. I can't find one statement from an artist who claims to have been paid royalties as a result of allofmp3 sales. You're ripping off those who made your music, and hiding behind weasel-words.

Show some character.

djHSL, do you have links by any chance to that stuff.....not doubting or anything, just interested.

There aren't a lot of singles on the site... but you can find some older stuff and all the bubble gum crap you can throw a stick at.

As for my morality, I can assure you it's completely intact. I did the investigation, I've talked with lawyers, I spent hundreds and likely thousands of dollars to find a way to legally move my karaoke tracks to a computer for my business - there isn't one. I did the same for my DJ business an again, there isn't one. I'm the only person I know that actually got a written exception to the terms of use agreement so I can use tracks within a DJ business. NO ONE else that I know of has gotten that far, and more than 99% don't even bother to try. They violate the terms of use and end user licensing agreements day in and day out. I am legal - 100%. As I've already said, I support artists, I buy more than 100 Cd's a year, more than 7500 tracks a year from US based sources and yet you are upset that I bought 10,000 tracks from the Russian sites in the last 2 years (about 5,000 a year). Let it go...

Can you elaborate this one?

MusicMeister, you can put out a snowstorm of bulldust, but you ARE illegal and immoral.

Illegal? Test your theory. Ask the RIAA for their position on allofmp3. In fact, why don't I do it for you? Perhaps I could send your business details to RIAA, or to your competitors, and let them sort out the legality of your situation.

Immoral? Find me ONE non-Russian artist who has received royalties from allofmp3. In fact, run a Google query like "allofmp3 artist royalties", and the ONLY people claiming that allofmp3 pays royalties is allofmp3 ... hardly a convincing argument.

I don't care how many CDs you have bought. That entitles you to THOSE tracks, and pays the artists on THOSE CDs.

You can bluster all you like, but you're nothing more than a cheap thief.

I will elaborate a little. Most music purchase sites have a section in the terms of use or end user license agreement that prohibits any commerical use of the tracks they offer for sale. In the normal sense of the term commerical this would prevent you using the tracks in any 'pay for play' scenario. In other words, the tracks are for personal use only and you can't use them if you're playing for public performance - even if you have obtained public performance licensing through ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, or CCLI.

I made calls, I wrote emails, and basically harassed one service until I got a waiver on the commerical clause. It was after I talked with a label and relayed what the label told me that they finally got upset with me (probably because they didn't think I'd actually call the president of the label) and told me on the phone, and then sent me an email allowing me to use the tracks from their site for 'pay for play' provided proper licensing was obtained. I'm NOT allowed to remix the tracks or distribute them in any way.



As for you comments djHSL:
Feel free to call the RIAA. I'm more than happy to discuss my purchases of tracks, and why with anyone there. You can tell them to contact me by PM here where I will be more than happy to provide them with my email address and phone number to discuss it further. Unlike a lot of people, I actually do my homework and am more than happy to discuss my position, what I've purchased, and why...

As for payment of royalties:
allofmp3.com and mp3search.ru both pay royalties to an agency (Russian Organization for Multimedia & Digital Systems (ROMS) and Rightholders Federation for Collective Copyright Management of Works Used Interactively (FAIR).) who's closest US equivilent is the Harry Fox Agency or the public performance licencing agencies - ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, or CCLI. They don't pay directly to the artists. These agencies are responsible for relaying the payments to artists. Feel free to check the payment process for Russia if you like - I'm sure you'll find this is indeed the case. BTW, the problem is that the law hasn't caught up with technology in Russia. There is currently a loophole that allows for a greatly reduced rate for licensing the tracks because of the way the laws are worded - but not a complete waiver for the licensing costs. Basically, it's licensed more like a radio station than an iTunes store would be.

The specifics can be found in an article from 'The Register' a UK based website with a surprising amount of information. From their article regarding the legality of allofmp3.com:
www.theregister.co.uk
"The answer is far from clear. The site is not licensed by any labels. However, currently there is an exemption under existing Russian copyright legislation (Article 39 for the aficionados) allowing phonograms to be performed publicly without the authorisation of the copyright owner for broadcasting and cable transmission. The Internet could be deemed to fall under this exemption. A similar argument can be applied to copies in the cache memory of computers."

When you couple this with the fact that all works before 1973 are public domain in Russia and a number of other anomolies in Russian copyright law it's all legal.

As far as I know the only reason you have to be upset with me is because I buy tracks from Russia - LEGALLY. I recommend that everyone do their own research and make their own determinations. I can only tell them what I've found out and where.

And from the allofmp3.com site:
"The availability over the Internet of the ALLOFMP3.com materials is authorized by the license # LS-3М-05-03 of the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society (ROMS) and license # 006/3M-05 of the Rightholders Federation for Collective Copyright Management of Works Used Interactively (FAIR). In accordance to the licenses' terms MediaServices pays license fees for all materials downloaded from the site subject to the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Related Rights". All these materials are solely for personal use. Any further distribution, resale or broadcasting are prohibited."

And if you check this link from mp3search.ru you can get the lowdown on their legalities (but you'll need to speak russian):
www.mp3search.ru

But they have obtained a license for distribution through FAIR.

And if you want to read up on the legalities and the specifics:
"Legality in the US
In the United States, many supporters of AllOfMP3 have pointed to limited exceptions in US copyright law, most notably 17 U.S.C. § 602(a)(2), which provides a personal use exception to the rule that importation of copyrighted items constitutes infringement. A corresponding exception does not exist in § 602(b), however, which governs whether importation is prohibited. Under § 603, where importation is prohibited, the federal government may seize or forfeit prohibited items "in the same manner as property imported in violation of the customs revenue laws." Thus, it appears possible that "importing" digital files from AllOfMP3.com does not constitute copyright infringement but does constitute a violation of customs law. There is no private right of action for violations of customs law, as there is for copyright law.

Whether downloading can be construed as importation is open to question. Importation is defined as a form of distribution of copies and phonorecords (17 U.S.C. § 602(a)), which are defined as tangible objects (17 U.S.C. § 101), which of course can no more be downloaded than a brick can be. So far, US Courts have not ruled definitively on the issue of whether unpaid downloading can constitute infringement on the part of the downloader. Moreover, there have been no rulings in U.S. courts to date regarding the specific legality of purchasing music from AllofMP3.com."
en.wikipedia.org

What does that mean? It means that IF it's deemed a violation of CUSTOMS law, it's still not a violation of copyright law. Which negates civil liability under the copyright statutes. The thing that the RIAA is using to club everyone with doesn't apply in this case!

And in the end... I'm no thief. Did I forget to mention that I've bought tracks on the Russian site just so I wouldn't have to rip/encode them myself and to insure the legal status since ripping/encoding them is illegal under copyright law if you're a commerical entity? Ripping and encoding a CD is illegal, so I have some tracks that I've bought from the Russian site AFTER I already owned the CD. So how about this: Kiss my ass.

You see this as black and white... and it's not. Stop pestering me and try going onto irc, newgroups, and p2p networks and tell them they're breaking the law instead of trying to tell someone who's done their homework and heavily supports artists. Just because I bought some tracks from Russia I'm a 'thief'. Puh-lease....

That's impressive MusicMeister.

How do you go about getting a free subscription to my12inch.com if your a radio DJ? I submitted my information including my radio station information and I got my email approval but it just includes a link to pay the $50 a month fee.

Thanks
-Physix

MM, I think the point that djHSL has problems with is the way you were argueing before. You described differente things that you do (w/o giving the explanation why they were legal, which you did know) and then it looked like you tried to hide behind the fact that you spend a lot of money on records, and listed how many CDs you bought. From a legal point of view no one cares. You can go to the church every sunday, pray before each dinner, still if you kill someone - you killed him, all the other stuff does not count. So if you break the law, you are breaking the law, no matter how much you did not break the law before. But it seemed that that was your way of argueing.

nik39:

He would attack a small part of my post and I would respond. If he had simply asked me to prove the legality of the downloads instead of attacking me it would have been far easier on the forum. And if he had read one of my early posts regarding alofmp3.com he would have seen the basics of the research akin to what's posted above.

Everyone:
Please understand, I don't have a problem explaining the information I have regarding the sites in question, discussing copyright law, licensing or anything else. I take offense to being called a thief, unethical, immoral, etc. because someone else hasn't taken the time to do the research or offhandedly believes every bit of propaganda the RIAA throws out. This is the same organization that's sueing dead grandparents because they can't get their act together.

BTW, I almost applied for a position with the RIAA tracking down people that are sharing music illegally. I didn't because the pay was too low, I'd have to live in California, and I'd instantly become the most hated person in the US (except for George W. Bush based on his current approval ratings).

If you have a question just ask... if you disagree with my reading of the law (and the interpretation from the lawyers I've talked with) feel free to. I can agree to disagree...

*yawn*

A thief is a thief is a liar.

You're stealing royalties from artists who made your music. That makes you as low as any mix-biter. And the lengths to which you go in defence of your lack of morality are just whiney self gratification.

MusicMeister & djHSL:

I'm guilty too, but the mod's are really cracking down on arguments that don't lead anywhere and just bring the forum down further. So...

@ MusicMeister - You obviously know your legal issue, but you don't need to defend your morality and you aren't going to change djHSL's mind, so it's not worth the effort.

@djHSL - You may have a point, but MusicMeister is 10,000+ mp3's commited to his views on Russian mp3 sites, so you're obviously not going to change his mind either.

I'm only playing Mommy peacemaker hear because the forum is getting rediculously huge now, and there's a lot of new guys who are just chomping at the bit for a forum fight, so I've decided I'm going to try my best to avoid endless convo's that end up resulting ultimately in disrespect. Let's keep this place helpful and respectful.

Other DJs: Before you start thinking "It isn't so bad ... just a few cents ... nothing important", think what Musicmeister's actions are doing to you.

You pay for your music. He doesn't. That means his cost of business is dramatically lower than yours, so he can afford to charge lower prices. Yes, the immoral downloaders are the bottom-feeding undercutters of the industry.

Then think about the perception of digital DJs. How many people have you heard say "Anyone can DJ with mp3s from the internet". Didn't it make you mad? Didn't you feel you had to defend against this allegation, because you don't cheat on your music? Well, here's one of the DJs creating that very perception.

The immoral actions of DJs like Mixmeister affects us all.

Ok, I guess that attempt at a neutral resolution went in one ear and out the other......screw it.

Fight away......

... and in case you want to believe his "legal research", here's what the IFPI had to say in September last year:

===== Quote =====

According to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), the International Federation of the Phonograph Industry (IFPI) — sort of an international version of the RIAA – has declared AllofMP3.com to be operating in violation of copyright holders rights. But there isn't a lot of current information on the Web regarding where the IFPI's case against AllofMP3.com. Today, IFPI spokesperson Adrian Strain sent me an update via e-mail. Here's what it said:

"We submitted a complaint to the most senior Moscow prosecutor in July (this is the third submission) and are awaiting that decision. Allofmp3.com was declared illegal by the court in Germany in May. The portal to the site in Italy, "allofmp3.it" was shut down by the Italian police in July. By the way, the Russian Organization for Multimedia & Digital Systems (ROMS) does not have the authority to licence the site and was thrown out of CISAC in October last year for purporting to grant licences it was not entitled to grant. We have consistently said that the site breaks international copyright laws by its sale and digital distribution of copyrighted music without the consent or authorisation of the rights holders."

The reference to ROMS is important because supporters of AllofMP3.com claim that its working with ROMS to make sure copyright holders are getting compensated for the purchase of a la carte music. CISAC is the International Confederation of Societies of Authors and Composers.

===== END QUOTE =====

Let's see if we can get in touch with Adrian Strain, and ask him to validate (yeah, right) Musicmeister's thieving.

Please hold the legal/illegal battle long enough to answer a legitimate question.

^^ you can't

WARNING!!!!! The below post contains some harsh words, thoughts and ideas. If you don't like what I have to say then so be it. I am replying only to attacks on my character.



And you're a whiney self-serving holier than thou asshole but I never resorted to name calling (until now). Does that make you dumber too?

You can try to justify your position all you want but NO ONE has ever contacted me to say it's illegal and I've asked a LOT of people. The only organizations that I don't ask are the ones that have nothing to do with it in the grand scheme of things. And yes, that would include the RIAA. See below for more on that...



I'm NOT getting my music for free. As I mentioned before, I pay for my music, on allofmp3.com, mp3search.ru, eMusic, CD's, minidiscs, DVD's, and more. You have an issue with only 1 or 2 of my sources, not all of them. Try this: letting it go.

But what about those DJ's on a service with labels? They do get their music for free. They immoral too? Are they 'ripping off the artists'? Are they thieves and liars too?



I don't DJ with just mp3's, I also use CD's, minidisc, and a lot of other tools at my disposal. I don't charge less than my fellow DJ's, as a matter of fact, I tend to charge MORE because I'm better.



Why won't I contact the RIAA and try to find out about their stand on where I get my music?

Because they break the law too....
news.com.com

Because they use their 'muscle' to force congress to police the world. But that's ok... I can deal with that...
www.ustr.gov

But what about their information collection abilities in their over zealous enforcement?

Suing a DEAD GRANDMOTHER?!?!?!?
arstechnica.com

Suing a 66 year old woman for downloading gangsta rap?
arstechnica.com

But first and foremost, how about because they're clogging the court system with trivial lawsuits preventing the real business of dealing with REAL criminals from getting done? Let's see... 14,800 lawsuits FILED but how many went to court? NONE.
arstechnica.com

But what about their 'clean slate' program?
www.riaa.com

Sure, you can get a 'clean slate' if you promise never to do it again but what you really do is admit guilt, and even though they say they won't go after you it doesn't mean that the labels themselves can't sue you and you won't be prosecuted criminally. Which is REAL easy to do since you've already ADMITTED THAT YOU'RE GUILTY!!!!!

www.pcworld.com
www.p2pnet.net


But wait!!!! The RIAA supports the ARTISTS!!!!
Nope. From their own website:

"Its members are the record companies that comprise the most vibrant national music industry in the world."
www.riaa.com

You can check for yourself... but I don't see one single ARTIST on the list they provide of clients....
www.riaa.com

You want to know who the REAL crooks are? The clients of the RIAA. If you doubt me try reading 'What They'll Never Tell You About the Music Business: The Myths, Secrets, Lies (& a Few Truths)' by Peter M. Thall. If this book doesn't give you some ideas about how the ARTISTS are screwed you aren't really reading it.



djHSL: We just aren't going to agree. My overhead isn't any lower than anyone else's - even with my occasionally buying music from Russia. Do you have to drive 4 hours to get to a record store? No. I do. Do you have to pay ridiculous shipping on equipment to get it to your house? No. But I do. Do you have stores that won't sell to you because of where you live? I do. I'm willing to bet that my overhead is HIGHER than most DJ's.

But all that aside... I actually haven't bought any tracks from allofmp3.com in nearly 3 months. Why? Because I've been getting what I need from IRC and newgroups.

Got you pissed off didn't it?
Actually.... I havne't gotten music from IRC or newsgroups for more than 8 years and don't have ANY of those tracks around anymore. I havne't bought any music from the Russian sites because I haven't needed to... I DO have other 'more traditional' sources for music...

How about going after the P2P, IRC, and newsgroup users instead of someone that's doing what they can to follow the letter of the law?

PLEASE NOTE: NOWHERE IN YOUR ENTIRE POST DID YOU SAY THAT THE DOWNLOADS WERE ILLEGAL. ONLY THAT THEY WERE BEING PURSUED FOR POTENTIAL LEGAL ACTION. So, thus far, even though some people agree with me, I am indeed obeying the LETTER of the law. In other words, I'm doing nothing illegal or criminal. What I am doing you disagree with on moral grounds. That doesn't make me a thief any more than it makes you a child molester for teaching sunday school just to be around 'little children'.


One last thing... being a thief makes you thief. It doesn't make you a liar. All of the information I've posted regarding the legalities can be verified with LINKS to the original material when possible. Where are your sources?

MusicMeister,

As you requested, I have asked IFPI to participate in this discussion. The following eMail was sent to their head-office and Russian office.

If they choose not to participate, then I won't bother saying anything more. I'll just let your maze of contradictions and bluster speak for itself.

By the way, I'm an atheist. Please don't insult me by alleging that I teach in a Sunday School.

===== START EMAIL =====

Hello,

I'm a DJ, and along with hundreds of my colleagues I participate in a web discussion forum surrounding the Serato Scratch Live control surface. The general forum URL is:

scratchlive.net

The people at Serato have an excellent attitude towards piracy and file sharing, swiftly banning it in all circumstances. Lately, however, we have been deluged by what I believe to be misinformation (and/or disinformation) about the Russian service ALLOFMP3.COM.

If you visit the forum, and look at the list of topics, one of the first topics is entitled "Legal Sources of MP3s". This topic was started to maintain a list of services such as Beatport, Stompy, eMusic, etc., which are legitimate commercial download sites. If you scroll to the bottom of the topic, however, you will notice increasingly strident advocacy in favour of using ALLOFMP3.

I am writing to ask that you join this forum, if only temporarily, and contribute to this discussion in an official capacity. Many of the world's best DJs participate regularly, and it would be a great opportunity for you to educate newer DJs about the legality and morality of sites such as ALLOFMP3.

I look forward to seeing your contribution.

Yours,

Ron Dunn (djHSL)

===== END EMAIL =====

If anyone is interested, the eMail addresses to which this was sent are:

info@ifpi.org
moscow@ifpi.ru

djHSL: First, I'm not advocating the use of allofmp3.com or any of the other sites. I simply say that I have used them, and that based on my investigations they are legal - but more of a import grey market than anything else. I look forward to discussing the matter with anyone including the people that you sent the emails. I'm not saying I'm the end all but I do like doing research and perhaps I can be swayed.

As for the reference to Sunday school I will apologize. It was perhaps just a little over the top but meant to make a point.

One last thing... it's long discussions regarding the legality that actually draw attention to illegal services like Kazaa, IRC, newsgroups, and even the legal (but debatable legality) of sites like allofmp3.com, mp3search.ru, and mp3spy. Napster had a fairly small, but growing number of users until the story hit the news. People that never would have downloaded from Napster wanted to see what it was all about and went crazy.

*flip*

*flop*

No flip flop from me but you're too far into your own little world to know that. I did my research and stand by my actions... If someone shows me additional research to sway my opinion I welcome it, but you have NOT done so nor will you with your small minded attempts couple with name calling and baseless accusations. I'm not so closed minded that I won't even listen to additional arguements, but name calling and unfounded posts aren't going to do it. Legal documentation, laws, supreme court rulings, and the like are what I pay attention to; not flipant comments about how I'm ruining the music industry or undermining DJ's.

If you read back, someone asked about the legality of allofmp3.com and later mp3search.ru. I simply posted the results of my research as they are currently legal. If asked about the customer service and quality of the tracks I reply with the facts - yes, I have used the services. The quality was pretty good or excellent. I had no problems with my credit card being compromised. I didn't post arbitrarily saying you should download from them because they're cheap or anything else. Others might have, I have not.

I am however, a HUGE advocate of eMusic of which I have subscribed for more than 6 years. When asked where to get a track I tend to like to them first (if it's available there). I talk about them to my friends and family. I have personally talked more than 50 people into checking out the service over the last 6 years with nothing in return (I don't use a referral link).

I offended you with my comment about the church and I offered an apology. You want to be flipant with my offer you only show how small minded you really are.

In the mean time I only wish there was an ignore the dumbass option on this board. I have never ignored anyone in all my years on boards, IRC, and newsgroups. You would have been the first persistantly ignorant close-minded poster I've ever seen to make me wish I could ignore them....

You know what? You've done only one thing for me... provided me a mild diversion and make me realize I should probably log onto allofmp3.com and mp3search.ru right now and download a lot of tracks - while it's still LEGAL.

Oh yea... and you can kiss my ass while I'm doing it....

can you guys pm each other about this stuff maybe....? getting a little tiring to read these essays...pretty much just you two battling each other at this point; the rest of us are looking for more mp3 pools...

Yeah, man, you guys are boring to death.

Also, add to the discussion that labels give out music for the free-ski as "promotional." Are you clowns actually serious?

I know radio dj's who "illegally" download music, then play the songs, in-essence giving free promotion, before millions of people. Are they stealing, or doing Rhino a favor?

Get real. Also, please stop using profanity before a moderator spanks us.

I thought I was the only one who peeped radio DJs pickin up music via illegal ways as well.

*Unsubscribe from this discussion*

The topic has gone way off course at this point... soooo.......

Here's a recap from the entire thread to hopefully put it back on topic. Belows are all the links from the above thread in one place... I made a few minor changes to make a few more readable -hope no one minds....

BTW, I didn't check for duplicates nor the legality of any of the sites. The only sites I left out where known P2P sharing applications (like limewire, kazaa, bearshare, gnutella, etc).



And these weren't included so I figured I'd add them:
www.apple.com
www.virgindigital.com
www.mycokemusic.com
www.napster.com
www.musicmatch.com
music.yahoo.com
www.walmart.com
www.mp3.com
www.artistdirect.com
www.imesh.com
www.real.com
www.karmadownload.com
www.napster.co.uk
www.winamp.com -go to their music page for downloads
www.freeplaymusic.com
www.emp3world.com
www.redferret.net
www.partnersinrhyme.com

I'm sure there are lots more but I wanted to put all the links into one post to make it a little easier to find them all and to try and put the thread back on topic...


These are sites that have links to more music sites...
DJ MP3 sites
www.djmp3sites.com -A nice site that is a master-list of digital DJ music sources
www.goingware.com

ENJOY!

Why don't we add some netlabels as well?
check these for some quality minimal techno:

unfoundsoundrecords.com
www.minlove.net
www.thinner.cc
www.textone.org

isnt there a way to pay sabam yearly and get a license to play mp3s ?
cause i know that tru those things i aint never gonna find evrything i want to find .
and what if i play mp3s that i have copied from my vinyl ? how they gonna check al that shit if its download or recorded ?

I'm thinking that we need another thread dealing with licensing, copyright, and the like. This thread should be for (preferably) legal sources of mp3's. (please no comments on the .ru domain stuff - we've already been there).

I don't know who sabam is so you're likely in a country outside the US. As such, I have minimal, if any knowledge to answer your question. In the US we have a lot of laws that deal with space-shifting (format-shifting - ie copying vinyl to MP3), licensing for public performance (through ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, or CCLI), mechanical reproduction licensing at the statutory rate(for those groups that release a 'cover tune' on their own album), taxes on DAC players and tape (to cover overhead on the possibility of piracy), and more to deal with. I can give you some info on the US but it should be in another thread...

In the meantime, I can't remember the site given to me by a Bulgarian a while back that had some hot techno on it but I did stumble on this... (didn't listen, just found it and thought I'd post)

dot.cult.bg

When I was checking out the above I also came across this site that has some releases, but again, I haven't listened yet so it could be anything from new age to industrial satanic metal with jazzy blues overtones.
www.kahvi.org

anybody playing latin music with serato?????

I'm really interested in copyright issues and would like a dedicated thread.
I'd like a thread for netlabels as well

I've been holding back the news. Go to myspace.com/brrp if you're REALLY serious about a Hip-Hop/R&B/Reggae .mp3 pool.

Breakin-Records.com should be up and running by the end of the month. I don't want to offend the moderators by going into detail here. Just read the myspace info, then hit me @ brrp@breakin-records.com w/ any questions, please.

Keep us updated Clark.....this is something that could be a big resource for SSL users, so as long as you keep the hype low and info level high, I don't think the mods should/will care.

This thread is really really long. But i recommend www.fiberlineaudio.com

www.djstuart.com.ar

Thx, `vidoona.'

has anyone checked out my12inch.com?

For those of you into electronic music, we've added several more stores and a browse feature to our label directory: www.beatmatcher.net Adding more all the time. I'm gonna try to get in touch will alot of the stores listed in this thread.

yes. i think there's a big discussion on this further up in this very same thread. i tried it for a month and dropped it. the general consensus is that it's decent, but not worth it if you have a digiwaxx account. if you don't, then i'd say it's probably worth it

HAHA that was DJ enrie you were just talking to. Hes the one that practically put together my12inch.com

Is anyone on here a member of recordpool.com?

Do they have a decent variety of breaks tracks?

Or.....does anyone know a good mp3 pool for breaks mp3s?

Ive gone through that list and havent come up with too much...a little bit...but not alot.

Same here. Not worth the $50 a month bill it carries IMHO.

anyone know of a quality download site for hip-hop?

something like beatport, but that specializes in hip hop singles including acapella and instrumental versions of all the tracks....

thanks for the help.

is it a website how do i view it

Which record pool has the best selection of new and older hiphop / r&b with clean versions? I'm really trying to get rid of anything that I have that is dirty and replace it with radio edits of joints...

Help?!?!?!

As a members of our MP3, you’ll be serviced with new Rap and R&B singles from many major record labels, as well as many Indie labels. We’ve been getting MP3 exclusives from Def Jam, Sony, Columbia, Epic , J Records , TVT Records, Jive and much more... Most of these are songs that’ll never get put out on vinyl. So they’re exclusives that a lot of other DJs will NEVER get.

As a member of our MP3 record pool and will receive 2 CDs per month. What we do is we take all the MP3s we get from major labels and Indie labels and we burn them all down onto a CD for you. Each CD will have over 120 tracks on it…. It will consist of dirty & clean versions of songs, as well as instrumentals and accapellas of many songs. That’s crazy right?

Think about it…. We’re gonna be giving you over 250 brand new exclusive songs every month, for you to blast off on your mix CD or radio show. We will mail you two Cds a month, the first cd will go out during the 2nd week of the month and the second cd will go out during the last week of the month. Trust us, these CDs will be filled with a lot of really dope exclusive joints that are very hard to get. Plus, you don’t have to worry about downloading them, etc. They’ll all be on CD for you already. It doesn’t get much easier than that.

With our pool, we’ve made it a lot easier for you to keep all the singles organized. You don’t have to worry about downloading anything. We’ve done all the work for ya.

We’ll mail the CDs directly to you. The best thing about it is that we are giving FREE shipping to anywhere within the U.S.

Here is the info on the monthly pool dues:

Each month the MP3 pool membership will be $30. Monthly dues will need to be paid before the first mailing of every month.

Payments can be Money Order (No Personal Checks) or online thru PayPal.

We encourage everybody to use PAYPAL, because it’s the fastest and safest. That way there will never be any shipping delays.

If you choose to pay thru paypal, you may do so by utilizing our paypal account. Please go to Paypal.com and make the payment to our account which is: paypal@wondertwinz.com. There’ll be an extra $5 fee for using our paypal account, which would make your 1st months dues $35.

All Money Order payments MUST be made out to: “AMP Entertainment” only !!!!!

Please mail to:

AMP Entertainment
c/o The Wonder TwinZ
PO Box 2926
Huntington Station, NY
11746

But again, we encourage everybody to pay thru paypal, whenever possible. If you’ve never used paypal, don’t worry it’s mad easy to use. Just log onto to their site and they will explain exactly how to make payments.

So if all of the above info sounds good, then let’s get this crackin’. The next step would be for you to send us ya 1st months Dues and you’ll be good to go.

Please call us @ 1-800-994-TwinZ with any questions

www.wondertwinz.com

^^^
You're violating the forum rules. Give us the website, but don't f-ing advertise like this is your own personal radio station. You already tried selling banners here:
www.scratchlive.net

Not only that, you're a fake and a phony - thus you suck. Why? Because you pretended to promote this site as a 3rd person onlooker as if you didn't have a vested interest here and then just posted your add afterwards anyway:
www.scratchlive.net

And, we already got the point when you posted this exact message here again:
www.scratchlive.net

Weak dude....this might be a good record pool, but don't pull that shit on here. Is this even legal? Can you prove it?

sorry, I wasnt trying to sell or advertise anything. I was just trying to be helpful in posting the information so people could read it directly on here.

That place is in New York. I live in LA, and have nothing to do with it. I dont even subscribe to it. The title of the thread is, "Legal sources of MP3s" and I was just adding to the list. I didnt know what I did was against any rules.

Why are you so angry?

xoxoxo,
Junebugg

It's a website.......you could be anywhere and run it from another location. Besides, how are you not running the site, when you use personal pronouns in the post "I" "We" - last time I checked that claimed ownership. Were you just copying and pasting from the site? If so, you should say that.


Because, I watch television when I want to be force-fed commercials. If there's a product that forum member has invented that could benefit SSL users, that's cool, but just mention it - don't promote it like a used car salesmen.

If you truly have nothing to do with the site, my apologies, but you'd have to have a sickeningly raging hard-on about something to do free marketing like that.

I just copied the text. I did that because, I know I hate to click to another link when Im on a message board like this. I thought it would be helpful to read what it was about and decide if it was worth clicking the link or not. I just hate having a bunch of windows open while im at work.

I wasnt doing any marketing for them and I dont even have a weiner to get a hard on.

I have Tvo and LOVE fastforwarding through the commercials. I dont watch "live" tv anymore just so I can have the luxury of Fast Fowarding.

This thread was ASKING for information, thats why I pasted it. In the future I'll just be vague or read but not participate.

Have a beautiful day!

xoxoxo,
Junebugg

My apologies. You might want to mention the next time you're doing that though considering the text you copied was in first person indicating that you we're marketing the product when infact you weren't.

Thanks for the merry tidings too, so...
You have a beautiful day too?

Sorry, I'm a copy & paster. I didnt realize it made it seem like I was saying it

Damn, I feel like we need a group hug or something! hee hee

"Thanks for the merry tidings too, so...
You have a beautiful day too? "

My day is very beautiful now because as soon as i hit "post", I'm leaving work.

Peace Out Cub Scouts,
Junebugg

angry... angry.

Is allofmp3.com legal? According to this article, it's illegal:

www.afterdawn.com

Thoughts?

See above discussion at length on this exact subject between myself and djHSL.

This is NOT the place to discuss this... this is a place to list sources of mp3's and not to discuss the legalities of such... (outside of the obvious p2p, irc, newsgroup type sources which are OBVIOUSLY illegal).

If you don't find what you want in this thread higher up please start another thread or find a thread I started call 'The Copyright Thread' or something similar and post there.

so many to choose from, it's driving me crazy :O

www.trackingspain.com

This is the best site I've found for HipHop.
hiphophits.net

And it's free

...and illegal.

lol

seriously what's with the forum police?this site has mods.if they're doing something wrong they'll handle it.too many teachers pets.i mean really doesn't anybody have anything better to do than to get angry or point out someone using capitals?if you read text online and you think (or hear) they are yelling,you are online waaaaay too much.come back to the real world.thanks to all who post their mp3 sources here.someone reading these posts are getting help.just cause it irritates you or is useless to another, it may be extremely helpful to others.lighten up people it's just a DJ FORUM.Oops did I yell?didn't realize i could be heard

hehehe, no comment!

Just in case you guys havent realized... the title of this thread is "Legal sources of MP3s". Get it?
Legal sources of MP3s.

Hiphophits is most likely not legal.

most likely?? so you're not sure?

Exactly! I wasn't sure either. I just posted it to help other fellow dj's out.

I'm sorry but I should have put a Disclaimer.

DISCLAIMER: If you think Hiphophits is illegal. Please use it at your own risk or don't use it at all.

Happy??

whoooooo whoooooo.Do I hear sirens?Damn you got pulled over by the forum police.HA!Hey Andee thanks for the info.Very good source

Do I see a STICKY whose topic is LEGAL sources of MP3's? Stick to the topic.

Oh, and BTW...a quote from Sam (a mod from Serato BTW):

scratchlive.net

hahaha!! i cant stop laughing, every couple days someone new rants about Nik39 and his Capital Letters are bad disclosure..fucking hilarious dudE!!!

you are so funny man!! hahaha

Jeee.


Andee, if you had taken the time to search the board you would had known that this site has been discussed before and the result was that most likely its not a legal service. Even reading this thread should have led you to the result... someone has mentioned it before you. Whats the sense of repeating the same site in one thread? There is none.


Dont know what you find funny about it. I dont think its nice if you are on the search for a *legal* service and you dont have any clue about it, then someone jumps in and gives you a hint "to help other fellow dj's out" which a. is not what you want (LEGAL!) b. could get you into trouble.
I personally dont call this help. But hey, now that you know, you decide for yourself whether you want to support their crap or not. No one is telling you what to do. But just dont fool others with misleading information for the sake of this board.

lsdjmist, *Yawn* yes, I'm a cop. This has been discussed and beaten to death like 1 million times before. So what? Its my 9-5 job. Anything wrong with it? You want a medal because you found out first I am a cop? Jesus.

did you really type yawn? funny.Um the only yawn you get is from reading your tired ass post.damn you are a cop.go figure.Do you really think i care your a real cop or not ? not really. you outed yourself ,not me.Got cops in my family so big deal.got enough medals and trophies don't need the one that says nik39 is a cop. 9-5 job huh cool.did you post this after work? your off duty.
look man it's pointless for this internet battling.You can bring up any post from 2 years where it clearly states whatever but it's how you do it that makes you come across like an ass.and your not the only one.the guy was trying to be helpful and corrected himself.
earlier i was on topic .i did mention mp3's.ease up.have fun.put the badge down and enjoy the forum too.if you see someone put misinformation or illegal shit up here cool point it out but, dude don't act like you are the gavel hittin the bench handing out judgments.I'll agree that it's good to assist the Serato forum but why don't you post with courtesy (not just you)instead of the whole "you can't do that here or you will die" attitude crap.fair right?
you were not clear if it was illegal anyway.Andee thanks for the disclaimer i feel so much better and clean now.
so Nik you got your words and i had mine.I would assume you being a cop and I being in my 30's would make us mature enough to drop it now right?Cool.Let's see what happens next.PEACE

We have polluted this thread more than necessary. Lets keep this thread mp3 related. If you have any other issues to resolve feel free to PM me.

Yeah really, back track please... anyone know of some other good sources of music? I need acapellas, instrumentals, etc... Free would be good but a few dollars is ok...

Again, I don't want to offend the forum rules/Serato/etc., but I MUST TELL YOU!!! (YES, I'M SCREAMING!!!! AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!) [LMAO!]

Breakin-Records.com will be bananas with yes, acapellas, radio, dirty, instrumental and remix versions. Do understand that many times labels are slower than we'd like to release all the versions, but we'll do what we can.

Also, expect to see an uncanny amount of .mp3's. I already receive 20-75 mp3's PER DAY. I have an 75k+ music industry email database that I'm having to lease a dedicated server for, just to send-out the weekly newsletter! When the newsletter starts again, a rediculous flood of music should pour-in, Lord willing.

Add to that our two myspace pages that are averaging 400-600 new friends, each, per day, and we expect a great turn-out with dj's and labels big and small.

I'm based in Atlanta, so I receive much of the music that blows nationally, many times a year to two years before the rest of the country knows about it... especially this "Snap" stuff.

I've had more pre-release Jeezy, USDA and K-Rab-produced tracks than I can remember for months, for instance. Just expect a rediculous amount of music from all over the globe: Hip-Hop, R&B, Reggae, etc.

The site should launch, Lord willing, this Friday. Adding the music is seemingly taking all my time! [LOL!] I need an intern! Nik39! Where are you?!

sounds promising, how exclusive will it be?

It won't be "exclusive." If you're a "Music Professional," you're invited to join. BDS/MediaBase reporters and major journalists are free. Everyone else is $15/mo.

The full "Terms of Service (Disclaimer)" page is still under-construction.

YES, I KNOW how big a deal piracy is to you lovely, honest people. I appreciate that attitude of integrity.

THIS WILL BE A FULLY-LEGAL SITE, WITH MUSIC SENT DIRECTLY FROM THE RECORD LABELS!!! YES, I'M SCREAMING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF PIRACY LATER, PLEASE.
Excerpts:

"We're all about breaking new music, giving everyone a chance to compete in the music industry, for little to no cost. Radio professionals and major journalists are free to join, while club and mobile jocks only pay $15/mo. In addition, there is no "in addition"--no entry fees, no processing fees, no extra anything. We just need feedback on the music: did you like the .mp3? For example, "Can you break the new joint?" "Will the song work in your market?""

"Whether you're DJ'ing in front of five people at a birthday party, or headlining in a stadium for 20,000, you can benefit a new song's chance of becoming #1. We're just showing those that are submitting music that we are concerned about their best interests."

"If your application is accepted, your credit card will be billed $15 plus any necessary credit card handling fees. Your credit card will be placed on an automated recurring payment program to be billed monthly, until you specify otherwise. Membership is on a monthly basis, which starts the day that we receive that month's payment. Please e-mail with any payment questions or concerns to..."




"We greatly appreciate your interest in Breakin-Records.com. Hopefully, we can validate that you are a certifiable "Music Professional." We must make sure that you're in a position to potentially help break a record that we would make available to you.

We operate in-line with U.S. and state laws, along with ethical practices to ensure that artists' works are not illegally used, distributed, nor pirated.

Therefore. we must be careful that you are a "Music Professional," as we define it. Again, we define a "Music Professional" as anyone in a position to potentially effect the marketing and, or promotion of a song, including, but not limited to, disc jockies (club, "mix-CD," radio, mobile), journalists, employees of radio stations or music-related web-sites.

Of course, BRRP, LLc. reserves the right to accept or deny any requests for membership."

hi everyone. i'm new. i like to use iTunes.

welcome?

thanks.

Somehow we can never get answers to the thread questions... I'd just like to know where else I could get mp3's legally...

Dude, just scroll up a bit...people pick up the slack and recompile it every once in a while. This post on May 8 appears to be most up-to-date: