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ITCH 2.0

DJ.AJ 1:35 PM - 11 August, 2009
whats gonna be in ITCH 2.0 and what other controllers are planned ?

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James Roberts 3:54 PM - 11 August, 2009
www.skratchworx.com

Interesting :0)
elsupermang 4:52 PM - 11 August, 2009
Not a fan of rackmount controllers.. Itch 2.0 sounds interesting tho.
nik39 7:34 PM - 11 August, 2009
What the... They just had Itch 1.1. And now 2.0? Hm...
MusicDan 7:43 PM - 11 August, 2009
I think Itch 1.1 was more of a bug fix, rather than features, although there were some nice ones. I think with the implementation of effects, a new version was needed. Isn't it great that they released 1.1 to address those bugs instead of waiting forever for 2.0?

That is one issue I had with Numark. I own a Numark D2 and they would release versions of the firmware. Well they teased us, in their forum, about a new version that NEVER came out. They shut down their forum and that was the end of that. No more support for the D2.

I love Numark but I think this partnership with Serato far exceeds what Numark can do alone. Version 2.0 was probably in the works before 1.1 was released.
DeeJayElite 7:46 PM - 11 August, 2009
Saw the pic of the Denon unit here: www.denondj.com
The NS7 still kicks everyones ass...
MusicDan 7:49 PM - 11 August, 2009
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MusicDan 7:50 PM - 11 August, 2009
When I had my D2, I went out and bought a Denon HD-2500, which this looks alot like, and I was confused. I think that they cram too much into one unit. I prefered the simplicity of the D2.
J-Reign 7:59 PM - 11 August, 2009
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Saw the pic of the Denon unit here: www.denondj.com
The NS7 still kicks everyones ass...

I think these companies played it right. Denon catering to their #1 market(Mobile DJs) with their rackmount unit. Vestax cornering the more portable solution. Numark with the total Turntable replacement. They are not directly competing each other, just playing the field for now. I'm sure Vestax or Rane will make a unit to directly compete with the NS7.
casket hands 8:18 PM - 11 August, 2009
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That is one issue I had with Numark. I own a Numark D2 and they would release versions of the firmware. Well they teased us, in their forum, about a new version that NEVER came out. They shut down their forum and that was the end of that. No more support for the D2.

I was in that exact boat with the idj2. at least it forced meto upgrade to itch in a hurry :)
casket hands 8:28 PM - 11 August, 2009
So Q4 eh? I guess I know what I'm asking for for christmas, a nice shiny VFX1.
Numark, Support
sbangs 9:24 PM - 11 August, 2009
Howdy

There have been updates for the IDJ2 check the website :)

The D2 will also have updates at a later point.

If you have any questions regarding these products feel free to contact Numark support directly as they can best assist you.

The NS7 is our Flagship product we take it very seriously and will continue to do so.

Itch 2.0 will bring great things for all supported hardware I am sure.
kraal 9:26 PM - 11 August, 2009
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Itch 2.0 will bring great things for all supported hardware I am sure.

even without buying an effects unit or new controller i hope
Kmxorbit 11:12 PM - 11 August, 2009
I like the idea of combined Itch controller / CD player with a mixer of your choice.
When I read this, I'm happy I still haven't sold my DJM800. Looks like there are fail safe solutions of Itch comming up, fx on my favourite mixinconsole, no Mic issues, and able to play CD's if necessary... thumbs up.
Hopefully a denon tabletop CD player/itch controller with motorized platter, and 5 cue points/ loops is comming up. that would make my day!
MusicDan 11:46 PM - 11 August, 2009
Hey Simon, I am sure you remember me from your forum. My D2 is obsolete now that I have Itch. I am sure others will benefit, but the release was supposed to come out right about when the forum shut down. My educated guess is that Numark was putting all their effort into the NS7, which for me and a lot of us here was a good thing. All I am trying to convey that having one company deal with the software and one deal with the hardware was definitely a good move.

I wasn't trying to put Numark down. I have owned and still own numerous Numark products including the NS7 and I think you are a great company. But the NS7 is the only piece I use now. I am sure that if something were to happen to my NS7, I would go back to my D2 and not have a problem at all. I would miss a lot of Itch's features but it wouldn't be the end of the world.
DJ.AJ 1:57 AM - 12 August, 2009
All that said, in the olden days i always had a Numark Mixer but the mixer section on the NS7 was very disappointing given Numarks incredible background in delivering the best mixer products. Sorry
FutureMedia 6:42 AM - 12 August, 2009
Anyone know where we can see a pic of the Vestax VFX-1? I am a newbie who just bought a 300.

Intel Macintoshes are getting a new 64 bit OS in less than a month from now. I'm loooking forward to Itch 2.0 being Snow Leopard 10.6 ready. My hunch is that Snow Leopard is what will make the Itch 2.0 effects possible.
casket hands 6:48 AM - 12 August, 2009
kraal 8:13 AM - 12 August, 2009
2.0 has me excited and nervous . excited for the future nervous due to the fact that my vci-300 may become 'obsolete' or rather unable to use 2.0 to it's fullest.
James Roberts 8:21 AM - 12 August, 2009
I was thinking that, but looking at the new denon itch controller there isn't any new buttons etc

www.denondj.com
kraal 8:25 AM - 12 August, 2009
of course not .... you seem to need to use more than one controller to us ALL the features of ITCH 2.0 .... I am just speculating but hmmmm
FutureMedia 10:09 AM - 12 August, 2009
Back from my looks around the web. Seems the VFX-1 will ship as a companion piece to the 300 on October 19 for around $300 US. My GUESS is 2.0 will ship around that same time and be Intel Mac Snow Leopard 10.6 required-compatible. I don't see how an old PPC Mac could possably keep up with all the processing power effects will require.

I just got my 300 yesterday and I have no fear 2.0 will obsolete it at all. I see the combination of a powerful MacBook Pro, OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard and Itch 2.0 to be the perfect complement to the 300 + the VFX-1 for the ultimate hard drive based mobile music entertainment system.

I would also say anyone who trys to make this system work with Windoze is a fool looking for trouble.
casket hands 10:31 AM - 12 August, 2009
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I would also say anyone who trys to make this system work with Windoze is a fool looking for trouble.

that's unnecessary.
FutureMedia 11:09 AM - 12 August, 2009
My apologies.
chims 11:12 AM - 12 August, 2009
ITCH 2.0 and VFX-1 is getting pretty close having a 57SL mixer with CDJ-400's (no CDs needed, switch to internal mode in SSL and that makes it basically 1 to 1 midi like ITCH). Not sure where they're going with the new configs.
sheeno 1:16 PM - 12 August, 2009
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I would also say anyone who trys to make this system work with Windoze is a fool looking for trouble.

that's unnecessary.


I think its a valid point.

I've had problem since upgrading from version 1.0.5 to 1.1 running on vista laptop (which is 6 months old and decent spec).

Im not confident about how its going to cope with FX thrown in.

In fact Im pricing macbook pros as we speak
Antony Ellis 1:55 PM - 12 August, 2009
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I would also say anyone who trys to make this system work with Windoze is a fool looking for trouble.

that's unnecessary.


I think its a valid point.

I've had problem since upgrading from version 1.0.5 to 1.1 running on vista laptop (which is 6 months old and decent spec).

Im not confident about how its going to cope with FX thrown in.

In fact Im pricing macbook pros as we speak


Just get Windows 7 then.....job done!
James Roberts 2:15 PM - 12 August, 2009
serato.com

VFX1 preview
FutureMedia 4:48 PM - 12 August, 2009
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I've had problem since upgrading from version 1.0.5 to 1.1 running on vista laptop (which is 6 months old and decent spec).

Im not confident about how its going to cope with FX thrown in.

In fact Im pricing macbook pros as we speak
Just get Windows 7 then.....job done!
Windoze 7 is still based on the same mess as Vista and XP. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

Plus Macs will be driving pure 64 bit 10.6 Snow Leopard in a few weeks which is going to leave Windoze PCs in a world of hurt and the dust.
Dj Fitty 4:58 PM - 12 August, 2009
sampler in 2.0?
FutureMedia 5:17 PM - 12 August, 2009
You would think that Serato would publish minimum system requirements for 2.0 now instead of keeping us all wondering what they will be so other purchase decisions and planning can be made. It's very inconsiderate of them not to do so. Please?
MusicDan 5:21 PM - 12 August, 2009
So does the NS7 support 64 Bit right now? Not as far as I know. The good thing about Snow Leopard is that if you need to run some programs at 32 Bit you can do that . Here is an excerpt from Apple.

"32-bit compatible.
To ensure simplicity and flexibility, Mac OS X still comes in one version that runs both 64-bit and 32-bit applications. So you don’t need to update everything on your system just to run a single 64-bit program. And new 64-bit applications work just fine with your existing printers, storage devices, and PCI cards."

Find the page here www.apple.com
nik39 5:24 PM - 12 August, 2009
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So does the NS7 support 64 Bit right now? Not as far as I know.

That only applies to Windows 64Bit.
MusicDan 5:27 PM - 12 August, 2009
Really?
MusicDan 5:28 PM - 12 August, 2009
Not that I don't believe you, but how can we confirm this?
Majah Green 5:33 PM - 12 August, 2009
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I would also say anyone who trys to make this system work with Windoze is a fool looking for trouble.


PLEASE don't do that... i really hate it! that's where all that hating from mac users to windows users and vice verse comes from... and that is just not right!
windows is just another system... some are comfortable with one and some are with the other... i think everyone should make it's choice. and even if it may seem sometimes that the windows guys have more fails with itch than mac guys - remember the market share of windows is a magnitude higher than that of os x!

and for the 64-bit thingy - how do you think a 64-bit os will help itch?
my guess is it won't influence the performance of itch very much - and i'm sure it will be possible to run the next version of itch with a 32-bit cpu (as traktor is running fine with 32-bit and traktor is using 4 decks and fx right now).

(just to clarify: i'm a mac user myself, but i HATE all those hating about windows and macs)
nik39 5:36 PM - 12 August, 2009
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PLEASE don't do that... i really hate it! that's where all that hating from mac users to windows users and vice verse comes from... and that is just not right!

+1.

Tired of it.
FutureMedia 5:47 PM - 12 August, 2009
I am not saying to HATE Windoze. I am simply stating FACT that Windoze is more unstable than OS X on similar Intel C2D hardware. I apologize again if I am reading hateful. That was not my intention.

The 64 bitness of Snow Leopard should release those parts of the Itch 2.0 for Mac that are based on the new system's architecture which is radically different that the architecture of Leopard 10.5. I am only SPECULATING that the Serato developers may be taking advantage of 10.6 Snow Leopard's ADVANCED AUDIO architecture in the 2.0 release of Itch - not that I know. I HOPE and PRAY they are. They've had more than a year to write it that way. That's why I wish they would publish the minimum hardware-software requirements for 2.0 now instead of later. Please?
DJ.AJ 6:05 PM - 12 August, 2009
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I am simply stating FACT that Windoze is more unstable than OS X on similar Intel C2D hardware.


I don't believe this statement to be true all and i am a MAC convert where ITCH is concerned. my problems with my windows laptop had nothing to do with VISTA it was the manufacturer decisions. It's all the varying hardware combination's that give the windows platform. That and the whole IRQ setup. so i am glad i got a top of the line mac. I can relax for a couple of years. SIGH
Majah Green 6:20 PM - 12 August, 2009
DJ.AJ said it... it's all due to the fact that windows supports tons of hardware and os x doesn't...
it's like itch is very stable (imo) because it only supports two devices (yet), whereas traktor pro is "not as stable" because it supports tons of hardware (from soundcard to midi controller). but that's just my opinion!

there's no need to apologize FutureMedia, i'm sorry if i took this too serious, but these type of comments (doesn't matter if it wasn't your intention) always spawn flamewars.
please just be careful about what you say about windows/os x, it's a very hot topic (almost like racism :D).

for the point of the audio architecture i hope you're right, that would be sweet! but i guess they won't as they would leave all 10.5 users out...
FutureMedia 6:24 PM - 12 August, 2009
I would like 2.0 to allow me to add to my iTunes library while Itch is open and to have those additions immediately appear in Itch without having to quit and relaunch it. In a gig this means not being able to add new music during the presentation doesn't it? Remember I am a beginner on this platform.
kraal 6:27 PM - 12 August, 2009
a little late for asking for features.... what i would like is a post of new features included by serato.... right now it is a wait and see game
FutureMedia 6:28 PM - 12 August, 2009
$29 is not a barrier to admission. Everyone should upgrade to Snow Leopard on day one as long as 1.1 is compatible - which it is likely to be. Then when 2.0 ships we will gain huge benefits from the rewrite.
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For the point of the audio architecture i hope you're right, that would be sweet! but i guess they won't as they would leave all 10.5 users out...
Majah Green 6:36 PM - 12 August, 2009
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a little late for asking for features.... what i would like is a post of new features included by serato.... right now it is a wait and see game


+1
i'd love to take a peek at what we get :)
but i guess serato is playing the marketing game and won't release a feature list until they release 2.0...
kraal 6:42 PM - 12 August, 2009
i come from an art background art software such as photoshop/painter/and maya release 'some' of the features to give people something to look foward to the only list i have seen of this type for itch only show 1.1 features... so now my eyes are glued for dj expo leaked footage
FutureMedia 8:13 PM - 12 August, 2009
We have clues in yesterday's press release. And we might know the shipping date is October 19 @ about $300 according to a reseller site and a third party blog respectively. The accuracy of that intel is uncertain. But at least it's a pair of rumors to hang our hats on to begin with.
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a little late for asking for features.... what i would like is a post of new features included by serato.... right now it is a wait and see game
FutureMedia 8:15 PM - 12 August, 2009
I meant $300 and October 19 for the Vestax VFX-1 cost and shipping date. Sorry if I confused Itch 2.0 with the new effects controller.
kraal 8:35 PM - 12 August, 2009
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We have clues in yesterday's press release.

maybe i messed it but it really doesn't say the extra features of 2.0 only the features of the controllers what i am refering to is us ITCH users with the first generation controllers (the ones whose support has made 2.0 possible ) I mean even without buying a controller we should get new features.
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I Sorry if I confused Itch 2.0 with the new effects controller.

i don't think they are really that seperate
casket hands 8:37 PM - 12 August, 2009
Just to add my 2cents, I've been running every beta release of itch for close to a year now on my asus running vista and I have had ZERO stability issues. ZERO! How to you get more stable than that? You don't. If you feel more comfortable on a mac. Fill your boots, but I feel more comfortable on a pc. So let's cuts the trash talk svp.
kraal 8:40 PM - 12 August, 2009
firm believer in using what works most of all the bells and whistles of any software really serves no purpose to djing
DPDJs 2:51 PM - 13 August, 2009
I'm a Windows user and I have no issues with stability but I do have a dedicated laptop specifically for ITCH. I know I don't have to say this but for the most part Vista is not very good performance wise which is why I run a stripped down version of XP and will probably move to a similar install of Windows 7. I don't install any software on this box other than what I need to DJ and I keep it off the net except when nessecary. My other XP boxes run very well and I only have rare issues but when you striving for Zero interrunptions during a performance you must take extra steps to ensure that. If you get your config right you'll be perfectly happy with Windows.

I think I'm just as impatient, if not more, for 2.0 as you are especially with the new Denon controller. This is a perfect marriage for me. I'm not a club DJ, just your basic mobile jock so I get to have ITCH, the reliability of Denon and I get my favorite mixer back. I'm already shopping for a new glide top flight case, Very exciting! And I'll have my VCI-300 as my secondary system/backup.
D-RoC71 2:57 PM - 13 August, 2009
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Just to add my 2cents, I've been running every beta release of itch for close to a year now on my asus running vista and I have had ZERO stability issues. ZERO!


Casket Hands - what are you saying? you have ZERO stability issues? So do you mean that you always had issues? Or did you mean you had ZERO IN-stability issues? Like you had never had any problems?.....
Numark
Chris Roman 4:13 PM - 13 August, 2009
In answer to an earlier question:

“When released, Itch 2.0 will be fully compatible with NS7. Serato and Numark are working closely to make sure that the integration between NS7 and Itch remains as seamless as it always has been, and we fully intend to take advantage of the advances coming with Itch 2.0. We think both existing and future NS7 owners will be thrilled by the functionality promised with this new release.”

BTW- what Simon said about updates was true, we've offered several updates on the product pages of numark.com
kraal 4:18 PM - 13 August, 2009
did anyone read that VIDEO is now midi based and available for all scrachLIVE users...... could that be a change that was made also for ITCH 2.0 :)
casket hands 7:02 PM - 13 August, 2009
No problems whatsoever
FutureMedia 8:14 PM - 13 August, 2009
Now that Macintosh OS X Snow Leopard 10.6 appears to have gone Golden Master and all developers have their copies now, I'd like to know ASAP if 1.1 is compatible with 10.6 and if 2.0 is compatible with 10.6 please. Is it that hard to know and tell us this week? If you can't tell us yet why not tell us why and when you can tell us please. Serato Engineers' OR Public Relations' SILENCE on the issue of current version Itch 1.1 and future version Itch 2.0 compatibility with both Macintosh 10.6 and Windows XP, Vista and 7 is very annoying. At least tell us why you can't if you can't. Otherwise tell us NOW please.
kraal 8:43 PM - 13 August, 2009
who says that serato will have a copy before the release ?
I personally will try it when it comes out.... if it doesnt work i will just wipe my hard drive and go back. so i will let you know what is see once i get it
FutureMedia 8:55 PM - 13 August, 2009
All Apple Developers - which Serato is one of - now have the release. You must not read any news sites.
kraal 9:08 PM - 13 August, 2009
show me this news site that says serato has a copy
casket hands 9:12 PM - 13 August, 2009
I say just install it, it will be more stable than windoze whether they have tested it or not. Amirite?
FutureMedia 9:32 PM - 13 August, 2009
Will the Serato engineer assigned to read this forum please post a reply about Mac OS X 10.6 compatibility for both 1.1 and 2.0 versions of Itch please?
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 10:25 PM - 13 August, 2009
Hi guys.

Serato have been working towards the goals that Microsoft and Apple have both set with their official release dates for Windows 7 or Snow Leopard, so if all things are good then expect support to be announced around then.

Until we announce official support, feel free to try them out like many other users have done.
We just aren't officially supporting these platforms yet.

:D
FutureMedia 2:42 AM - 14 August, 2009
Thank you.
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 3:09 AM - 14 August, 2009
Not a problem. We'll make the announcement when we're ready, so keep an eye out for it :)
sl1pm4t 1:44 AM - 15 August, 2009
A big pat on Microsofts back for running open beta testing of Windows 7, meaning I don't have to question if Serato will support it. I know for one thing that Serato can definitely get their hands on a copy if they want, but more importantly I can get my hands on a copy and test myself (which I've done - and it works).
DJ.AJ 2:45 AM - 15 August, 2009
I wonder if it will fix my toshiba's IRA issues
iiexist 6:09 AM - 15 August, 2009
i would like to know how is the vfx-1 going to connect/be powered?
kraal 7:58 AM - 15 August, 2009
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i would like to know how is the vfx-1 going to connect/be powered?

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casket hands 12:20 PM - 15 August, 2009
well, since there arent any more data connections on the VCI it will have to be connected via USB to your laptop.
Dj Fitty 1:55 PM - 15 August, 2009
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I wonder if it will fix my toshiba's IRA issues


Toshiba has a few models that simply can not be used to dj with. Check out this thread on Traktor foroum about toshiba www.native-instruments.com
KLH 4:14 PM - 15 August, 2009
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i would like to know how is the vfx-1 going to connect/be powered?

Since it doesn't route audio and seems to only send MIDI, I would expect USB and optionally via adaptor. MIDI controllers typically don't need much power.

-KLH
DJ.AJ 5:00 PM - 15 August, 2009
My MAC only has 2 usb ports, this could start getting bad if every new addon needs a USB port
kraal 6:43 PM - 15 August, 2009
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My MAC only has 2 usb ports, this could start getting bad if every new addon needs a USB port

right.... that why i have always said a way to chain them would be ideal
DJdaveZ 6:57 PM - 15 August, 2009
it has a usb connection... this is a problem for me too... im a macbook pro user..
we have to use a powered hub or an expresscard/34 usb... such as...
www.amazon.com
iiexist 7:04 PM - 15 August, 2009
yeah thats very unfortunate for macbook users since theyre only equipped with 2 usb ports. what about those who have music on externals? now a hub is necessary?

i would assume the vfx wouldnt require a huge amount of power. maybe serato will throw in a 'splitter' connector to where the vci and vfx both connect to 1 port...maybe not tho..
danimix 7:12 PM - 15 August, 2009
Guys go easy on Windows, will you. I am serious about my trade and aapproach the same way. I run Vista on a HP 2.0 I have over 79000 tracks on my laptop,( not external
drive) and it works pretty dam good running the VCI, my only small issue is the delay on the mic. All I am saying is dedicate your computer for your dearest need..... do not multi-task...........
elsupermang 8:53 PM - 15 August, 2009
There is an obvious difference in performance overhead in OSX vs Windows XP. Xp just has too much legacy code and alot of hardware and software it has to support. Plus everything you install wants to go in your startup all the time. It's a huge maintenance nightmare. Sure if you want to take the time to constantly maintain your PC thats fine with you. I however had to go Mac after my dell would give me nothing but audio stutterring (on another DJ software). I did clean reinstalls etc. but in the end i just went mac now I can run Itch at 1ms latency with no hassles.
FutureMedia 12:24 AM - 16 August, 2009
That's what I thought and you stated the obvious much more clearly and factually than I did which was perceived as only emotional even though I knew it was based on facts which I was not able to properly site as you have done so well. Thank you ElSuperMang for the clarification. Here's looking forward to the launch of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard in probably only 2 more weeks. :)
casket hands 1:05 AM - 16 August, 2009
Those are good points elsupermang, and if you feel those differences in OS are enough of a problem to want to switch, go right ahead. The problem is, a lot of people dont understand the differences and DJs in particular are among some of the least tech-saavy people I have ever come across. There are a lot of superstitious hocus pocus rumors that circulate through the industry that are treated as fact. The self righteous attitude that somehow a mac has magical ingredients and no PC will ever match up to its computing prowess is nonsensical twaddle. Yes, macs are will built and have a good track record for reliability, but it is entirely possible that you will have serious performance issue on either system, owning a mac does not give you a free pass, just look at the public beta forum and see how many issues are mac specific. Most important rule for anyone that relies on their gear to be problem free: understand your gear. If something is broken or glitchy, you should know how to fix it, if you dont, you are hooped either way. It boils down to preference, and if you are not happy with your choice of computer, keep looking, but its unnecessary to tell other people they are wrong for having a different preference, especially without being able to back it up (not directed at you elsupermang)
casket hands 1:08 AM - 16 August, 2009
a word about the vfx connections, its possible that the VFX will have 2 usb ports so that the VCI can be daisy chained through the VFX to the computer and still only use one port. luckily I have 3 ports on my asus so I dont mind either way.
DJ Cs 3:04 PM - 16 August, 2009
@casket hands, I disagree that most DJ's are not tech saavy, especially the ones who are on the forums. Most are very computer literate out of necessity with using studio equipment such as pro tools, digital media, and now DVS and digital controllers.

I have been a PC user for over 20 years in my career(Computer Analyst for a fortune 500 company) and general use such as Dj'ing and other endeavors. I am intimately familiar with the working of a PC down to component level of hardware and back to the days of DOS and beyond on the software side.

I agree with most of your statements about PC's being able to match Macs and so forth, but wanted to ask, have you ever used the same DJ software on a MAC?

I NEVER worked with a MAC before about three months ago and had no clue how to turn on on, much less do anything on it.
I ONLY purchased one because my so called compatible laptop would freeze, have high latentcy, on my Numark NS7 with Itch and other software (Virtual DJ, Torq).

I told myself I would ONLY use the MAC for DJ software and music, but was shocked that I could just install ITCH and never had a delay, hangup, bluescreen/crash and absolutely no configuration needed.

I was BLOWN away and didn't want to cede anything to it just being the MAC and thinking all the APPLE-heads were right all this time.

I still say the PC is the platform for the variety of programs,hardware it supports and gaming, but if you "JUST WANT IT TO WORK....PLEASE", then try a MAC.

MACS do have their problems every now and then, but the only way to describe the difference is like using a normal Belt drive turntable vs a Technics 1200 or other high end direct drive table to professionaly DJ your gigs. Both will work, but you will have to compensate usually on the belt driven model.

I now use the lowly MACBOOK 13", 2.4 ghz, 4GB memory laptop that I purchased used for about $700 for 80% of all my computer use.

This is not a PC vs MAC flame. Again, I JUST started using a MAC after 20 years on a PC for every possible use and I know how to configure almost any setting on a PC. It goes beyond the pure horsepower that a PC offers, but rather in the implementation of the code and hardware interaction.

I just say don't take it personally or a put down to the PC platform but take it as a recommendation "IF" and only "IF" you are experiencing constant configuration and tweaking to get what most MAC users can get out of the box on low end equipment.

Sorry for the long post, but my testimonial and my 2 cents.
DJ Cs 3:11 PM - 16 August, 2009
Also, wanted to just hope that Itch 2.0 is really a leap as far as features rather than just a small fix up and add-on for several controllers.

If Itch could add features similar to Torq and virtual DJ it would really help with the production part of Dj'ing rather than just the performance.
kraal 4:42 PM - 16 August, 2009
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Also, wanted to just hope that Itch 2.0 is really a leap as far as features rather than just a small fix up and add-on for several controllers.


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casket hands 9:56 PM - 16 August, 2009
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MACS do have their problems every now and then, but the only way to describe the difference is like using a normal Belt drive turntable vs a Technics 1200 or other high end direct drive table to professionaly DJ your gigs. Both will work, but you will have to compensate usually on the belt driven model.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this point as I dont see how flawless performance makes something lesser gear. If my laptop didnt work reliably %100 of the time, believe you me, I would be the first person to admit that it wasnt up to snuff. I dont want to drag this out into a huge discussion about system warz, because frankly it wont change anyone's mind, but I am still convinced that the main reason for a DJ wanting to switch to a mac is because of the cost. for lots of people, more $$$ = better. I bought my computer because it had better specs than a MBP at the time and was $1000 less. call me cheap, or call my computer the equivalent of a belt drive turntable, but I dont mind that my computer didnt come preinstalled with the magic fairy dust that would make it better than %100 reliable. I will fully cop to the fact that OSX runs leaner and better than windows, its a fact, but does it mean I'm on the mic apologizing to the crowd while my computer does a windows defender update? nope.
DJ.AJ 10:02 PM - 16 August, 2009
to each his own vices - now back on topic people. find 2.0 hints and the like and post them here.
FutureMedia 10:11 PM - 16 August, 2009
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I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this point as I dont see how flawless performance makes something lesser gear. If my laptop didnt work reliably %100 of the time, believe you me, I would be the first person to admit that it wasnt up to snuff. I dont want to drag this out into a huge discussion about system warz, because frankly it wont change anyone's mind, but I am still convinced that the main reason for a DJ wanting to switch to a mac is because of the cost. for lots of people, more $$$ = better. I bought my computer because it had better specs than a MBP at the time and was $1000 less. call me cheap, or call my computer the equivalent of a belt drive turntable, but I dont mind that my computer didnt come preinstalled with the magic fairy dust that would make it better than %100 reliable. I will fully cop to the fact that OSX runs leaner and better than windows, its a fact, but does it mean I'm on the mic apologizing to the crowd while my computer does a windows defender update? nope.
I believe you but I think you probably have an outstanding hardware-software setup. Would you mind being specific as to what hardware Make, Model, C2D Speed, RAM quantity, Hard Drive Inside or out on what bus by what manufacturer and what version of Windows with what version of Serato Itch is working perfectly for you please? Thanks in advance for helping us understand Macs are not necessarily a better way to go.
kraal 10:25 PM - 16 August, 2009
who cares about hardware i want to know if anyone has seen itch 2.0 in action
casket hands 10:27 PM - 16 August, 2009
I'm running an ASUS f6v-a1, internal HD, updated authentic vista, and itch 1.1. couldnt be happier.

And yes, what kraal said.
FutureMedia 10:35 PM - 16 August, 2009
Wasn't it on display at the DJ show in Atlantic City last week? I guess no one who's on this forum was there. The Serato engineers won't give anything up so far. Puzzling given that it must have been shown last week at the show.
kraal 10:37 PM - 16 August, 2009
even if anyone on this forums wasnt there...i still would expect some footage to crop up.... hmmm maybe it is time to email ean golden from djtechtools
casket hands 10:42 PM - 16 August, 2009
someone was there: www.serato.com
kraal 10:44 PM - 16 August, 2009
yeah at the virtual dj booth using ... i already knew virtual dj has a mapper for the ns7 to use thier software.
DJ.AJ 11:38 PM - 16 August, 2009
does the mapper has the platters map
FutureMedia 7:16 PM - 29 September, 2009
Still no release date for Itch 2.0 ?
DJ.AJ 7:30 PM - 29 September, 2009
not yet, we expect some news soon though. early october as the press release hinted at Q4 release
DJdaveZ 9:44 PM - 29 September, 2009
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even if anyone on this forums wasnt there...i still would expect some footage to crop up.... hmmm maybe it is time to email ean golden from djtechtools

yeah i was there... took a pic of the vfx machiavellis.net
the rep said he was waiting to get the software to run it and that it would be running for demo on weds or thurs. i was only there for tues though. he said that when you plug in the vfx, the fx pane will come up in the software, just like offline/online player. he said that he wouldnt sell the unit for more than 299 MAP. he also said it would be for sale within a month... its been a month and a half basically since then.
kraal 9:55 PM - 29 September, 2009
i remember when the ns7 was going on sell in 3 months after a trade show... that the months lasted about 9 real time months :)
DJ.AJ 9:58 PM - 29 September, 2009
that is exactly what i am afraid of
MusicDan 10:12 PM - 29 September, 2009
It looks like there is only one USB out and no in or hub.
kraal 10:15 PM - 29 September, 2009
so now the question is how many usb ports do you have ?
MusicDan 10:17 PM - 29 September, 2009
2
MusicDan 10:18 PM - 29 September, 2009
I dont use an external drive, and if I did I would run it Firewire, so that wouldn't be an issue for me. I wrote that because some people have stated their preference for a hub like device or at least a pass thru.
kraal 10:18 PM - 29 September, 2009
um that was rhetorical :)
kraal 10:19 PM - 29 September, 2009
yep i was one of those people :)
MusicDan 10:20 PM - 29 September, 2009
I dont use an external drive, and if I did I would run it Firewire, so that wouldn't be an issue for me. I wrote that because some people have stated their preference for a hub like device or at least a pass thru.
kraal 10:21 PM - 29 September, 2009
my main concer is if sampler is not included in 2.0 without any extra controller needed then at some point you are going to have to choose what you want to do a each gig..... unless the vfx-1 can also control samples ....
MusicDan 10:21 PM - 29 September, 2009
Sorry for the double post.
MusicDan 10:22 PM - 29 September, 2009
Good question
DJ.AJ 11:17 PM - 29 September, 2009
having only 2 ports sucks, because i have to use a mouse. i hate this mac trackpad.
i use a hub with the mouse so i can hookup my external hd to it also. the external is powered so no power issues. haven't been a problem. getting away from using the external though.
kraal 12:16 AM - 30 September, 2009
that is why ITCH needs more keystroke navigation like 'ctrl+f' takes you to the 'search all'
kraal 12:16 AM - 30 September, 2009
that is why ITCH needs more keystroke navigation like 'ctrl+f' takes you to the 'search all'
PPIP 6:19 AM - 30 September, 2009
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i hate this mac trackpad.


The Mac trackpad is superior to any other trackpad. I never use my mouse anymore on my MacBook.
DJdaveZ 7:17 AM - 30 September, 2009
^ YESSS macbook trackpad with its ingenuity is great. the two fingers for scroll and the newer ones with 3 finger support.... damn. so intelligent. why would you ever need a mouse with itch and a mac? the itch hardware controls pretty much everything in itch. control F is great for searches... what else would you need a mouse for?

a powered USB hub is the only way to go with extra USB devices... gotta have the powered one due to apples poor usb power issues.
djcerla 9:30 AM - 30 September, 2009
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having only 2 ports sucks, because i have to use a mouse.


Do you use a mouse during performance? Strange... I've never, ever touched the trackpad when performing with ITCH.

The main idea behind the software project is to make digital DJs look like they're actually DJing, not reading emails :)

Sure, a mouse for preparing and polishing crates at home is a slight advantage, however, as others have pointed out, the new Apple trackpad is a giant step forward, and wins hands down on conventional mouses without scrollwheel.
djcerla 2:21 PM - 30 September, 2009
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But what do U think about an external keyboard?


that's what I think --> Watchwww.youtube.com

I also use an external keyboard to trigger samples in Battery... :(
I will have to carry 2 laptops and split my headphones... mhhh...

... or take this out of the dust... loopers-delight.com (I don't think so :)
DJ.AJ 2:24 PM - 30 September, 2009
i don't like having to lean over the controller to get to the trackpad. i simply use my body with my wireless mouse. the trackpad is "cool" just not as productive for person coming from windows. you guys are mac experts
djcerla 2:27 PM - 30 September, 2009
AJ,

I am simply wondering why you need a mouse during performance... the beauty of ITCH is that you operate the software without touching the computer at all...
DJ.AJ 2:41 PM - 30 September, 2009
I've been using a mouse for over 20 years and its just hard to put it down. plus i always have a problem with the screen resizing on me and i hate it when it gets into that mode
kraal 2:45 PM - 30 September, 2009
i take it you have an ns7 is you need the keyboard for loop rolls
DJ.AJ 2:50 PM - 30 September, 2009
i have the ns7 yes.
Cid K 3:21 PM - 30 September, 2009
And again more threads about when Itch 2.0 will get released and what will be the fetures and of course that mysterious VFX-1.

Speculations, speculations....
Cid K 3:22 PM - 30 September, 2009
This reminds me of Politiciens talks hahahahahahhahahahahaa
Dj Fitty 3:29 PM - 30 September, 2009
no sampler.....no buy......and thats...........nooooooooo joke!
DJ.AJ 3:30 PM - 30 September, 2009
i agree, fifty
Dj Fitty 3:36 PM - 30 September, 2009
besides I'm thinking without some sort of stand that elevates and angles this fx controller it would kind of take away from your mix. picking this thing up, throwing it down to get back to your mix.
kraal 4:06 PM - 30 September, 2009
fitty i am sure it can lay flat and still function
nik39 4:08 PM - 30 September, 2009
www.xone.co.uk

These are the features of the A&H Xone:DX, I guess some will be a part of Itch 2.0:

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Xone:dx - Professional MIDI USB Controller intergrated with 4-deck Serato ITCH software

Designed by A&H in collaboration with Serato, the Xone:DX isa MIDI controller and USB soudncard with total integration for ITCH software. Boasting a huge number of MIDI control messages, inputs for external decks and two dual layer deck simulatorers, the Xone:DX is the most powerful ITCH controller on the planet. The brand new version of Serato ITCH, supploed with the DX, provides unqiue 4-deck control, and features a comprehensive set of digital DJ FX, as well as looping, time stretching and a massive number of DJ tools.

* Designed in conjunction with Serato
* Includes full version of ITCH software
* 4 channel layout with FX
* Two dual layer deck simulators
* Bi-colour LED layer assignment
* 20-channel USB 2.0 soundcard
* 24Bit/96kHz audio system
* 168 individual MIDI messages available
* ITCH includes FX, looping and time-stretching
* RIAA/phono inputs for external decks
* Mix outputs on RCA and balanced XLR
* Separate booth output
* Fully compatible with other leading DJ software
* Built-in hardware MIDI interface
* Professional modular construction
* High quality faders
* 50mm deep to feit laptop bag
MusicDan 5:38 PM - 30 September, 2009
So 2.0 will have 4 decks? Will we, the Veckies and Numies be able to use the other two virtually?
MusicDan 5:39 PM - 30 September, 2009
How much? A&H is expensive right?
MusicDan 5:41 PM - 30 September, 2009
The cheapest I've seen the Xone 4d is $2200. This has to be more expensive. Or at the very least the same.
nik39 5:41 PM - 30 September, 2009
Whoa.. $2200 for the DX... that sounds like a lot.
MusicDan 5:46 PM - 30 September, 2009
Think about it the VCI 100 is $500. The 300 is $900. The NS7 is the most expensive piece of equipment that Numark has, and by alot.

The HD Mix and their Audio/video mixer are the closets at $999.

For sure this will be more than 4d.
Cid K 6:04 PM - 30 September, 2009
Yeah i agree on that, at least 2000$ for that DX. Allan and Heath is always very expensive.
Dj Beware 6:38 PM - 30 September, 2009
Yah but the NS7 has much more moving parts.....I think the price will be comparable to the NS7
nik39 6:40 PM - 30 September, 2009
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Yah but the NS7 has much more moving parts

Exactly.
Cid K 7:06 PM - 30 September, 2009
Let just hope its not more then 2 gran.
casket hands 7:09 PM - 30 September, 2009
as long as its super high quality I will pay.
kraal 7:49 PM - 30 September, 2009
still waiting. i need good platters :(
DJdaveZ 8:34 PM - 30 September, 2009
that sounds so appealing...
DJdaveZ 8:38 PM - 30 September, 2009
except the tiny platters and what looks like gel buttons. those buttons suck... why cant everyone make good buttons like pioneer... this gel stuff is so common now.
Dj Beware 9:32 PM - 30 September, 2009
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still waiting. i need good platters :(


Yah I agree here, from what I can see if the XD was exactly the same with touch platters like the VCI300 I would have my VCI300 on ebay right now....but then again lets wait and see how this thing is maybe we will be presently surprised.
Dj Beware 10:12 PM - 30 September, 2009
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Yah but the NS7 has much more moving parts

Exactly.


Then again a Xone 4D is 2000+ and it looks like a similar layout and components and it may have the same 20 channel sound card, with that said it might be around the same price, in fact maybe more.....from reading the description and looking at the picture it and reading the description it might operate as a normal mixer since it has external inputs.
nik39 10:23 PM - 30 September, 2009
Hm... okay, fair enough, there are pros and cons. We'll see what the MSRP will be.
Maskrider 5:42 AM - 1 October, 2009
Now the New Pioneer Cdj players will be marking down their price to compete with this.
DJdaveZ 6:05 AM - 1 October, 2009
^ maybe... or maybe the price will just come down in a normal regression, just like the price of anything comes down after release. it just takes time.
I1Kirm 12:12 PM - 1 October, 2009
The official price for Xone:DX is 999 pounds in UK. Still, waiting for the US price
nik39 12:20 PM - 1 October, 2009
Whooot?

That'd be a bargain!
DJ.AJ 4:16 PM - 1 October, 2009
that dx could be a perfect backup. if 999 is the UK price then it should be around far less than that for the US given the current exchange rate.
Cid K 4:26 PM - 1 October, 2009
Would be around 1500$ USD if the price stays at £999.
maestromind 4:39 PM - 1 October, 2009
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that dx could be a perfect backup. if 999 is the UK price then it should be around far less than that for the US given the current exchange rate.

The current rate is 1.596, and the Pound has been gaining strengh since peaking in early August...
maestromind 4:40 PM - 1 October, 2009
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that dx could be a perfect backup. if 999 is the UK price then it should be around far less than that for the US given the current exchange rate.

The current rate is 1.596, and the Pound has been gaining strengh since peaking in early August...

Sorry, I mean the DOLLAR has been gaining strength against the Pound since it peaked at 1.7.
Cid K 4:40 PM - 1 October, 2009
Right. Either way by the looks of it, it will be below 2 gran wiche is a good thing, specialy if you like at all Allan & Heath stuff, its all very expensive.
skratchworx 4:57 PM - 1 October, 2009
You can't do straight exchange rate conversions. There are so many factors involved in pricing. For example - a xone:4D is £1395, but $2799. An NS7 however is more of less a straight 1:1 dollar to pound conversion.

AMS will be getting back to me with a price.
maestromind 5:05 PM - 1 October, 2009
You are right, Gizmo.
I gotta ask though what's stopping some enterprising fella from buying up a few 4Ds in the UK and selling them in the US at over $500 profit?
Cid K 5:10 PM - 1 October, 2009
Thats something one could do honestly.
kraal 5:12 PM - 1 October, 2009
yes and add in the plane ticket and other travel cost and then you are trying to sell something others can get from an authorized distributer... i'll pass :)
maestromind 5:33 PM - 1 October, 2009
Why fly yourself ? Just ship them to a buddy stateside, and there's always eBay. You would have to price it between the US retail an the UK, still collecting a very nice margin. The products would have been bought from an authorized UK dealer with a receipt and unopened, so I'm pretty sure Xone would service them in the US still (wouldn't they service a UK DJ who moved to the US?).
kraal 5:39 PM - 1 October, 2009
and how much is shipping :)
skratchworx 5:56 PM - 1 October, 2009
Warranty and shipping. It really isn't worth it for you or the buyer.
nik39 6:23 PM - 1 October, 2009
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Warranty and shipping. It really isn't worth it for you or the buyer.

+1
Cid K 6:55 PM - 1 October, 2009
+1
DJ.AJ 11:18 PM - 1 October, 2009
my bad on the math - i had it all backward LOL. thanks for correcting that for everyone !!
charliegreens 4:29 PM - 2 October, 2009
I'd like to see Itch 2.0 supporting Apple Lossless... that would be awesome!
DPDJs 4:40 PM - 2 October, 2009
We are so close to the release, this month supposedly. I thought we have gotten some specs by now. Nothing, Nada. Could 2.0 be more about support for upcoming hardware releases, Denon, A&H, Vestax effects?
kraal 4:44 PM - 2 October, 2009
where are the bpm reports
casket hands 4:50 PM - 2 October, 2009
starts tomorrow dont it?
kraal 4:55 PM - 2 October, 2009
oh yeah :) :) :)
Maskrider 5:30 PM - 2 October, 2009
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We are so close to the release, this month supposedly. I thought we have gotten some specs by now. Nothing, Nada. Could 2.0 be more about support for upcoming hardware releases, Denon, A&H, Vestax effects?


Last month of the 4th quarter.lol

We should ask Pene. She's really nice.
casket hands 5:45 PM - 2 October, 2009
she's probably a very busy lady right now :)
DJ.AJ 7:04 PM - 16 November, 2009
The download for the NSFX is available, has anyone checked it out yet.
BadBoyChubs 7:06 PM - 16 November, 2009
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The download for the NSFX is available, has anyone checked it out yet.


Yeah some of us tested it out. It only makes me want the NSFX more.
Antony Ellis 7:17 PM - 16 November, 2009
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The download for the NSFX is available, has anyone checked it out yet.


Which download? 1.4 you mean?
DJ.AJ 7:22 PM - 16 November, 2009
yeah, looks like it's the 1.4 but they didn't specify that on the page. go figure.
Antony Ellis 7:23 PM - 16 November, 2009
already using it....without efx though.
DJ.AJ 7:28 PM - 16 November, 2009
How's the DELETE/SHIFT thing working out for you - it is an improvement (aside from loop rolls)
Antony Ellis 7:29 PM - 16 November, 2009
VCI here.
DJ.AJ 7:35 PM - 16 November, 2009
oh, ok. do they have a release for the vfx 1 yet
kraal 8:27 PM - 16 November, 2009
dj a.j there is no release for the vci-300 when you get the vci-300 you get an installation disk also no need to down load anything.
DJ.AJ 10:40 PM - 16 November, 2009
so how do VCI users get all the updates and such ?
Antony Ellis 11:08 PM - 16 November, 2009
on here.....
Antony Ellis 11:09 PM - 16 November, 2009
the 1.4 update for ns7 was for the vci too
kraal 11:11 PM - 16 November, 2009
dj.aj unless you have a vfx-1 the update does nothing for the vci-300 user
DJ.AJ 2:07 PM - 17 November, 2009
so the 1.4 gave us ns7 owners some features that the vci 300 owners already had. that's cool. good enough reason to try it out i guess
seratosnatch 3:33 PM - 17 November, 2009
1.4 update is for fx mainly both for the Vci and NS7..
kraal 3:36 PM - 17 November, 2009
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1.4 update is for fx mainly both for the Vci and NS7..

but has extra features for ns7 users
MusicDan 6:38 PM - 14 January, 2010
Word in NAMM is that SSL 2.0 Beta is out next week. What about us???
kraal 6:41 PM - 14 January, 2010
3 months after ssl is release canidate :)
James Roberts 6:48 PM - 14 January, 2010
SSL 2.0 pic
twitpic.com
casket hands 6:52 PM - 14 January, 2010
red-headed step-children
wadup 7:27 PM - 14 January, 2010
All i've been hearing about so far is ssl 2.0, nothing about itch 2.0 or any new features beside ableton live plug in.
kraal 7:35 PM - 14 January, 2010
well i am waiting to see what is being released and may just have to suffer my back some more and get some turntables and ssl
maestromind 7:44 PM - 14 January, 2010
The Bridge announcement refers to ITCH and SSL both, so my guess is they'll be released fairly close together.
Cid K 8:25 PM - 14 January, 2010
It will, it's been said long time ago that they are working on Itch 2.0

People take a pill and calme down hehehehehehehe
BadBoyChubs 9:01 PM - 14 January, 2010
But they said a public beta will be out, So I guess it is still in the works 2.0

Well i hope itch is release the same time.
So wat about 1.5? will we skip it and leave it as a beta and jump str8 to 2.0?
kraal 9:05 PM - 14 January, 2010
the rease canidate will become the final then we can all move along
wadup 1:54 AM - 15 January, 2010
I'm i the only one who's feeling that today announcement was all about ssl and ableton.. There's no mention of Itch 2.0..... you know the "big" update that was suppose to be announce today.
wadup 1:56 AM - 15 January, 2010
There's not even a pic of the how the new itch look..
zaguama 3:36 AM - 15 January, 2010
wadup, ive posted the same on other threads, i feel alone in the dark :(. Could serato have forgotten about us poor itch users lol.
casket hands 3:41 AM - 15 January, 2010
I dont think itch has nearly the amount of programmers on it as SSL does. lets let our guys and gals that have gotten us this far have a little breathing room.
zaguama 3:42 AM - 15 January, 2010
I get your point, but ITCH 2 was announced august last year and was supposed to be released originally Q4 2009 :P.
nik39 3:42 AM - 15 January, 2010
Huh? The V7 has been announced - which is an Itch device.
BadBoyChubs 3:46 AM - 15 January, 2010
yeah when they talk about SSL , they are including Itch, Itch added FX plus the X7 open 4 decks on Itch with the V7. plus the bridge is also for itch and dont forget the beatgrid
zaguama 3:47 AM - 15 January, 2010
you guys know whats the DJ FX portion about on SSL 2? i didnt quite understand that piece.
casket hands 3:48 AM - 15 January, 2010
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yeah when they talk about SSL , they are including Itch, Itch added FX plus the X7 open 4 decks on Itch with the V7.

does it though? I got the impression that if you want the run the X7 with 4 decks you need two V7s and two laptops running 2 deck itch. I'd love to be wrong though.
BadBoyChubs 3:52 AM - 15 January, 2010
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yeah when they talk about SSL , they are including Itch, Itch added FX plus the X7 open 4 decks on Itch with the V7.

does it though? I got the impression that if you want the run the X7 with 4 decks you need two V7s and two laptops running 2 deck itch. I'd love to be wrong though.


I hope the NS7 can activate the 4 Deck maybe by a shift function, That would be Sweet
I hope for the V7 they can use the 4 deck with one laptop
zaguama 3:53 AM - 15 January, 2010
Why would they allow you to activate the 4deck on the ns7, then why would you want to purchase the V7 if you can use 4 decks with the ns7?
casket hands 3:54 AM - 15 January, 2010
but what we know right now is that neither of them can do 4
nik39 3:54 AM - 15 January, 2010
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I hope the NS7 can activate the 4 Deck maybe by a shift function

Why in hell would you want 4 decks on a device which only offers 2 channel mixing per se??

It makes no sense.

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I hope for the V7 they can use the 4 deck with one laptop

+1. Assuming you have two V7's.
casket hands 4:00 AM - 15 January, 2010
I hope so too but skratchworx said
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Whilst you can run 2 ITCH virtual decks on one V7, you cannot run 4 decks inside a single copy of the supplied ITCH. A pair of V7s can run 2 decks only. If you want the full 4 deck compliment, you'll need a laptop attached to each V7 and the route each output to the 4 channels of your mixer.
BadBoyChubs 4:02 AM - 15 January, 2010
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I hope the NS7 can activate the 4 Deck maybe by a shift function

Why in hell would you want 4 decks on a device which only offers 2 channel mixing per se??

It makes no sense.


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I hope for the V7 they can use the 4 deck with one laptop

+1. Assuming you have two V7's.


I aint even know why i said that, maybe i had a crazy idea of running a accapella on a instrumental and mixing the next track, lolol
nik39 4:05 AM - 15 January, 2010
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I hope so too but skratchworx said
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Whilst you can run 2 ITCH virtual decks on one V7, you cannot run 4 decks inside a single copy of the supplied ITCH. A pair of V7s can run 2 decks only. If you want the full 4 deck compliment, you'll need a laptop attached to each V7 and the route each output to the 4 channels of your mixer.

I know, I know.. I just hope that they are wrong. :-(
casket hands 4:08 AM - 15 January, 2010
hopefully if we keep growing this thread either skratchworx or someone from numark/serato will come in and tell us :)
nik39 4:14 AM - 15 January, 2010
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hopefully if we keep growing this thread either skratchworx or someone from numark/serato will come in and tell us :)

Use the report button... hopefully a mod will chime in :)
casket hands 4:15 AM - 15 January, 2010
you first, haha
BadBoyChubs 4:17 AM - 15 January, 2010
Well like i said, we get the same as SSL and plus our beatgrid in 2.0, i dont see them adding nothing esle. only thing that will surpise us if they add a sampler
casket hands 4:18 AM - 15 January, 2010
I think Ableton is going to be the answer to the sampler for now.
spazz 4:26 AM - 15 January, 2010
True...
casket hands 4:28 AM - 15 January, 2010
except you lose a deck when you use it.
zaguama 4:30 AM - 15 January, 2010
i hope the rewrite those FX man, some of the current ITCH fx are crappy.
eric007 4:33 AM - 15 January, 2010
Take a look at this pic from djtechtools:
www.djtechtools.com

Do I see beat grid numbers?
zaguama 4:35 AM - 15 January, 2010
oh shit!!!!
eric007 4:40 AM - 15 January, 2010
It looks like it's counting by the bar/measure. I'm wondering if that's how they're doing the beat grid, by aligning the measures vs the beats.
kraal 6:32 AM - 15 January, 2010
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Why would they allow you to activate the 4deck on the ns7, then why would you want to purchase the V7 if you can use 4 decks with the ns7?

because the v7 is something different than the ns7 ... but in all actuallity it is the same damn thing. just split up so you can use your mixer of choice
kraal 6:34 AM - 15 January, 2010
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Take a look at this pic from djtechtools:
www.djtechtools.com

Do I see beat grid numbers?

looks like that is from the xone cause of the 4 decks
wadup 7:09 AM - 15 January, 2010
It goods to see how the beat grid gonna look .. just wish someone from serato to elaborate more on any new features that only itch has.....
BadBoyChubs 11:54 AM - 15 January, 2010
Since Ableton has been added to Itch also, does that mean the one to one Mapping Broken?
nik39 12:00 PM - 15 January, 2010
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It goods to see how the beat grid gonna look .. just wish someone from serato to elaborate more on any new features that only itch has.....

+1
Hell Yeah! 12:28 PM - 15 January, 2010
+1
kraal 1:46 PM - 15 January, 2010
yeah i was expecting itch 2.0 to be announce and demostrated..... instead we get ns7 buyers remorse products and again shoved three steps behind SSL .......
Hell Yeah! 1:49 PM - 15 January, 2010
It sucks! I'm waiting for four decks and fx so long in Itch but you only can get fx up to now. It is that i want the Xone:DX also because it works with traktor, otherwise i've jumped to traktor allready...... I will give itch a chance when i buy the Xone:DX tough.
kraal 1:54 PM - 15 January, 2010
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. It is that i want the Xone:DX also because it works with traktor, otherwise i've jumped to traktor allready......


if you want to use traktor i say use traktor now stop waiting for something that may or may not work with traktor.
Luku 1:57 PM - 15 January, 2010
Yeah, we would all like to know a little bit more about ITCH 2.0...
SSL users already got their news, so now it is time for us! ;)
Can we get some kind of a feature preview, similar to the SSL 2.0 Preview posted on the website yesterday? Public Beta timeframe would be an icing on the cake :)
Maskrider 2:09 PM - 15 January, 2010
Smart Crates and Album Art will be added to the existing Version
Hell Yeah! 2:31 PM - 15 January, 2010
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. It is that i want the Xone:DX also because it works with traktor, otherwise i've jumped to traktor allready......


if you want to use traktor i say use traktor now stop waiting for something that may or may not work with traktor.


I don't want traktor, i want the Xone:dx and when the xone:dx will be available i get the itch version with 4 decks and fx so everything would be fine. But if there was no xone:dx announced than i've jumped to traktor at this moment for the 4 decks. So Serato should be lucky that i want the Xone:DX and nothing else ;-)
Hell Yeah! 2:32 PM - 15 January, 2010
and why shouldn't the Xone:DX work with Traktor?
kraal 2:36 PM - 15 January, 2010
cause it isnt out so you have no idea what it can and cant do.....
Hell Yeah! 2:42 PM - 15 January, 2010
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cause it isnt out so you have no idea what it can and cant do.....


same with Itch.....
Cid K 2:46 PM - 15 January, 2010
It will work with Traktor, there's even Midi Map's already for it.
kraal 2:46 PM - 15 January, 2010
itch is out ... i use it all the time
TFRASER 2:48 PM - 15 January, 2010
guys my point is ssl live seems to be making big improvements, i would be very happy if they gave us a video plug in for itch 2.0. alot of my dj friends are use ssl,and they are trying to get me to make the transition. but i,m still waiting with my fingers cross hopefully they wont disapoint us .
kraal 2:49 PM - 15 January, 2010
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It will work with Traktor, there's even Midi Map's already for it.

same with virtual dj and the ns7 on release
same with a midi mad for traktor and the vci-300 on release

i just am giving a general warning but get what you want but dont complain when you imagined it different than the actual product that is delivered
Hell Yeah! 2:49 PM - 15 January, 2010
dude, the whole discussion from my side is about 4 decks! Which is not released yet (and i'm not talking about beta versions)
Second you said that because the Xone:DX isn't out i've no idea what it can or can't do with traktor, but i don't know what it can do with Itch either, because..........the DX is not out yet!!
kraal 2:53 PM - 15 January, 2010
right .... that is why my intitial responce was if you want traktor get traktor.

Quote:
cause it isnt out so you have no idea what it can and cant do.....


this was my quote and this is what i meant not talking about traktor talking about anything that isnt out yet
the xone xd
itch 2.0
ect
Hell Yeah! 2:55 PM - 15 January, 2010
ok i do understand now what you mean. But you see i want that Xone:DX so i have no option, only to b*tch about the fact that A&H and Serato don't inform us about the release of the DX and the 4 deck version of Itch....
kraal 3:01 PM - 15 January, 2010
right i do see what you are saying i just read the 'jump ship' part that started my post. but you pointed out that you are not 'wanting' traktor just 4 decks. so now you just must wait and prod as nessesary
Antony Ellis 3:15 PM - 15 January, 2010
Antony Ellis 3:15 PM - 15 January, 2010
Ok if you can understand the language like!!
MusicDan 3:30 PM - 15 January, 2010
Is that at NAMM???
MusicDan 3:31 PM - 15 January, 2010
Can you confirm if that is 2.0 or 1.6 for DX
kraal 3:33 PM - 15 January, 2010
the last demo of the dx did NOT have the beatgrid markers i beleive
maestromind 3:34 PM - 15 January, 2010
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Quote:
Take a look at this pic from djtechtools:
www.djtechtools.com
Do I see beat grid numbers?

looks like that is from the xone cause of the 4 decks


Maybe I'm just optimistic, but the fact that there's only two "Serato spinning platters" for4 decks in that picture makes me think it may be 2 virtual decks for a 2 deck controller. Then again the Xone:DX does only have 2 jog wheels (so why not let NS7 and VCI users use 4 decks too then?)

P.S. I can't see YouTube at work, can anyone tell me what's going on in the vid? Thx!
MusicDan 3:36 PM - 15 January, 2010
Because how would you control the volume?
That's the whole point of the DX, 4 volume controls.
kraal 3:42 PM - 15 January, 2010
plus the xone dial pitch fade is never in an actual physical location when you switch to deck 3 or 4 since it is a rotary dial
maestromind 3:46 PM - 15 January, 2010
I was thinking of having the virtual deck be a slave to the real deck, but on second thought that might have been a stupid idea.
MusicDan 4:01 PM - 15 January, 2010
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plus the xone dial pitch fade is never in an actual physical location when you switch to deck 3 or 4 since it is a rotary dial


God point kraal. You think that was on purpose? There were some people here who were bashing the DX for that. But now that makes allot of sense. I am definitely going to consider making the switch from my NS7. Just wish it was out already, or at least give us more info on it.
Cid K 4:05 PM - 15 January, 2010
Told you guys that pitch dial would be very useful heheheh A&H didn't put that there just for the looks trust me!
Dj Fitty 8:24 PM - 15 January, 2010
Traktor is not a bad idea if you want 4 deck control with a midi controller. It already has every thing that Itch is gonna implement. At the moment I prefer using Itch because of the VCI-300 scratching and the file management system. I also really appreciate how Serato gives free updates. I own Torg, Tracktor and Itch. to be honest Itch is at the bottom as far features but it is also the only thing I gig with.
BadBoyChubs 8:37 PM - 15 January, 2010
and jus the other day we was B*tching about 1.5 being release, LOL

Serato Itch have us always on our toes, It is a good thing. When 2.0 release it will keep most of us quite for a while. All i want is my stable 2.0 with beatgrid, NExt week my Nsfx should be here, and i will be happy. I dont care for the ableton.

Jus want a stable 2.0 for my Ns7
BadBoyChubs 8:39 PM - 15 January, 2010
Itch Team Keep up the Good work.
BadBoyChubs 10:23 PM - 15 January, 2010
Quote:


Help us get ITCH 1.5 out (it's in public beta now), and then the ITCH 2.0 fun will begin


Is it me? or does i get the feeling or 2.0 will come much more later than SSL.
It looks like 1.5 has to be final and then 2.0 will go in to beta testing base on 1.5.

so i quess we have a couple of monthhs with 1.5 on our plate
zaguama 11:10 PM - 15 January, 2010
well they have brought down most of the bugs so this should be easier for developing the upcoming versions, they really had to clean up all the mess they had on the first versions before focusing on new features.
Gonzo89 9:21 AM - 16 January, 2010
i really hope itch 2.0 isn't just the ableton fusion, i dont use ableton ive thought about trying it out but i shouldnt have to buy another program to get anything out of the new itch. Hopefully they add some new stuff in just the itch software itself, beatgrids ect.
Kanario Dj Producer 10:27 AM - 16 January, 2010
I think that Itch 2.0 is coming with the Bridge and the new beatgrid. SSL v2 is not getting the new beatgrid. SSL have 4 decks, the Bridge, etc, etc, etc.

Why do Itch have to be last? Why SSL gotta have all the goodies first including this painful word: Sample!!!! ????????????????????
Serato support: SSL is a more developed and stable platform, we can spot potential problems in Itch while we iron out SSL, blah, blah, blah......

OK
Back to Itch:
Let's not forget that Itch 2.0 is going to bring all of the different versions together. It will work like this: If you connect the Xone Dx, Itch will automatically recognize it. And will unlock the 4 decks. If you hook up an effect controller, Itch 2.0 will do the same and unlock its features. Etc, etc, etc.....

I think 2.0 will be out in April or May! Wanna bet?????
Maskrider 12:36 PM - 16 January, 2010
There is really nothing we can do except speculate on this matter. The Serato Gods knows when to Drop ITCH 2.0. Many of us ITCH users really does'nt care about Ableton fusion but it would be a plus if we can have it.

I have both SL1 and ITCH and I'm very excited of what is going on and what you can do with this systems.
kraal 5:43 PM - 16 January, 2010
i am sure THEBRIDGE is seperate from itch 2.0 . 2.0 will add features that are new to itch
BadBoyChubs 5:49 PM - 16 January, 2010
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i am sure THEBRIDGE is seperate from itch 2.0 . 2.0 will add features that are new to itch


i think so too, cause i ask and it dont make sense, Itch is one to one mapping! so i dont think they want u with a mouse clicking and point!
kraal 5:52 PM - 16 January, 2010
but THEBRIDGE will still be available in itch. i consider it more of a ableton product than a serato product
Cid K 6:40 PM - 16 January, 2010
Yup it is more of an Ableton product then a Serato one.
maestromind 8:06 PM - 16 January, 2010
Latest from Serato's twitter:
Quote:
ITCH people! ITCH 2.0 is in the works. Our devs are hard at work. When I have a better idea of dates I will give them to you. Cool bananas.
DJ Xio 8:15 PM - 16 January, 2010
What is that supposed to mean?
I thought itch 2.0 was going to be announced at NAMM!

Unless something happens today and by the looks of that tweet it won't, itch 2.0 has been set back along with the xone dx....
kraal 8:22 PM - 16 January, 2010
it will prob be april before we see 2.0 at the earliest. this is why no features have been posted cause they are prob no that far along in development.

btw was it ever stated 2.0 will be released or even announced at namm?
DJ Xio 8:23 PM - 16 January, 2010
Mods were saying all the info was going to be given at NAMM... I really don't care about 2.0 at this point... I just want the Xone DX!
My VCI-300 has reached its limitations in more ways than one!
kraal 8:43 PM - 16 January, 2010
i dont remember one mod saying anything about info on 2.0 @ namm anyone have a link?
zaguama 9:09 PM - 16 January, 2010
I dont recall any announcements, last thing i heard about itch 2.0 was when they pushed it from Q4 09 to Q1 2010. Hopefully no more pushbacks ;) and even more that the new software meets the expectations which are really high at this point.
kraal 10:22 PM - 16 January, 2010
i am hoping that is the reason for the push back to trump all the recent releases
KLH 11:39 PM - 16 January, 2010
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yeah i was expecting itch 2.0 to be announce and demostrated..... instead we get ns7 buyers remorse products and again shoved three steps behind SSL .......

Puhlease tell me that you don't have buyers remorse for buying the NS7. The V7/X7 combo is MUCH more 'spensive. Granted, you might get four decks, but do you really need it?

I personally think that the bridge basically addresses one of the two serious gaps in ITCH functionality (Sampler). The remaining gap is video, video, video... but that's what NEXT year's NAMM is for, right?

-KLH
kraal 11:52 PM - 16 January, 2010
oh i am more than happy with my vci-300 i am just saying the rate of releasing new hardware is enough to cause pause
KLH 12:04 AM - 17 January, 2010
I hear ya bro. I just haven't read anything (other than 4 deck support) that'd make me consider selling the NS7. No buyer's remorse here, guys... but get "the bridge" going asap - I wanna incorporate drops and samples now!

-KLH
Dj Beware 12:50 AM - 17 January, 2010
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I wanna incorporate drops and samples now!

-KLH


If thats all you want to do there are numerous cheaper routes you can even run the Ableton Live Lite or Ableton Live Intro (which are quite a bit cheaper) to accomplish this right now as well as numerous free alternative.
DJ.AJ 4:46 AM - 17 January, 2010
will the 2.0 work the the light and or live intro versions ? - anyone know ?
casket hands 6:27 AM - 17 January, 2010
Full or suite apparently.
kraal 9:10 AM - 17 January, 2010
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will the 2.0 work the the light and or live intro versions ? - anyone know ?

2.0 is not bridge
KLH 11:07 PM - 17 January, 2010
Quote:
Quote:
I wanna incorporate drops and samples now!

If thats all you want to do there are numerous cheaper routes you can even run the Ableton Live Lite or Ableton Live Intro (which are quite a bit cheaper) to accomplish this right now as well as numerous free alternative.

I'd love to know how to do this on a PC AND use just the NS7's output.

-KLH
Dj Fitty 11:33 PM - 17 January, 2010
I have heard a few talking about beat grids in 2.0 and was thinking that might be a locked feature only reserved for 4 decks.
djcerla 11:35 PM - 17 January, 2010
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I have heard a few talking about beat grids in 2.0 and was thinking that might be a locked feature only reserved for 4 decks.


That would be the dumbest move in pro audio industry, ever.
Zuck 11:41 PM - 17 January, 2010
Capitalism at it's best. Turning us into crackheads for technology. My hands are already shaking waiting for the Xone:Dx and Itch 2.0. Soon I'm gonna start selling plasma to get the next new thing.
kraal 11:45 PM - 17 January, 2010
Quote:
I have heard a few talking about beat grids in 2.0 and was thinking that might be a locked feature only reserved for 4 decks.

it has been stated that it is for all controllers
Dj Fitty 2:22 AM - 18 January, 2010
Really, I have not seen any thing saying for all controllers. Why would you need beat grid for two decks? For effects?
eric007 2:34 AM - 18 January, 2010
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Really, I have not seen any thing saying for all controllers. Why would you need beat grid for two decks? For effects?


Quantization needs grids/mapping, I believe. Being able to make consistent seamless cue jumps requires quantization.
Dj Fitty 6:37 AM - 18 January, 2010
WTF , it's called practice!
Dj Fitty 6:42 AM - 18 January, 2010
Hope y'all don't get silly on this grid shit cause everybody already got it. If u can't handle 2 decks, damn!!!!!!!!
djcerla 8:20 AM - 18 January, 2010
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Really, I have not seen any thing saying for all controllers. Why would you need beat grid for two decks? For effects?


to get that SYNC finally working as it should, as on competitor's software
marcA 9:10 AM - 18 January, 2010
+1
marcA 9:10 AM - 18 January, 2010
especially with the NS7 as it drifts apart even in instant double...
Dj Fitty 4:24 PM - 18 January, 2010
SYNC, man thats funny! Two decks and you gotta use Sync? Microwave!
kraal 4:28 PM - 18 January, 2010
dj fitty please stop being so 'mighty than thou' :)
marcA 4:31 PM - 18 January, 2010
@fitty
well you may come and try to keep 2 tracks in sync on the NS7...
"because of the nature of motorized platters, no 2 motors are running on the same exact speed thus resulting in slight differences. itch has code to handle this"
but i'm unable to keep anything in sync, even with sync on...
now since i use the beta x64 driver i'm hoping that is the one to blame...
djcerla 4:35 PM - 18 January, 2010
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SYNC, man thats funny! Two decks and you gotta use Sync?


A CAR? Man that's funny! Two horses and you gotta use a car?
maestromind 4:36 PM - 18 January, 2010
@fitty,
Honestly there are plenty of reasons to use the Sync feature. If you want to slave say an acapella track to an instrumental while varying the pitch on the latter and throwing fx on the former then it's pretty hard to keep track of the drift as well since you only have 2 hands.
DJ.AJ 4:44 PM - 18 January, 2010
@fifty

it's a new world man. i feel you though. i do notice that on the ns7 with 1.4 using different effects changes the bpm slightly.
kraal 5:01 PM - 18 January, 2010
and some of us mix music that isn't 'programed ' to be a steady 4/4 count
DJ.AJ 5:33 PM - 18 January, 2010
yes, not all music is written to be 4/4. it's up to the composer and some songs have more than 1 count. it's all good though. the more styles the better.
Dj Fitty 5:38 PM - 18 January, 2010
didnt mean to cause a stir. beat grid is not the cure to all drifting problems! some songs unless wrapped are gonna drift. and do you really think beat grid is gonna fix a problem with the NS7? I'll just sit back and wait, but I really think the beat grid is gonna be lock with the 4 decks.
Dj Fitty 5:41 PM - 18 January, 2010
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dj fitty please stop being so 'mighty than thou' :)
LOL! if its there in 2.0 I'm gonna use it. LOL
marcA 6:35 PM - 18 January, 2010
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but I really think the beat grid is gonna be lock with the 4 decks.

that would be totally ridiculous... this has nothing to do with 4 decks....
SERATO???? please confirm or deny...
kraal 6:47 PM - 18 January, 2010
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Quote:
but I really think the beat grid is gonna be lock with the 4 decks.

that would be totally ridiculous... this has nothing to do with 4 decks....
SERATO???? please confirm or deny...

all ready been explained it will be in 2.0 and the xone is only exclusive cause it has the button/knob to control it in the hardware
Cid K 7:43 PM - 18 January, 2010
Geez people please learn to read the post, this has been discuss so many times already.
Antony Ellis 8:39 PM - 18 January, 2010
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Geez people please learn to read the post, this has been discuss so many times already.


same with half the posts on here!!
Cid K 8:44 PM - 18 January, 2010
Yup :-(
Cid K 8:44 PM - 18 January, 2010
It get's so confusing with all the same awnsers and reponses everywhere.
kraal 8:53 PM - 18 January, 2010
how is it confusing with the SAME answers? it would be confusing with DIFFERENT answers :)

people need to realize this forum is just like everyday conversation. if someone ask you where a store is would your response be. "i told a guy last week where the store is go find him and ask him' or would it be easier to just tell him where the store is?
Cid K 8:58 PM - 18 January, 2010
Yeah i guess your right... but it's weird how everything keep's on coming back again.
djfrancov 9:02 PM - 18 January, 2010
hey Kraal.... That angry boy that was made in the computer... is bad ass dude.
Dj Fitty 12:50 AM - 19 January, 2010
Anyone taking bets?
Dj Fitty 1:05 AM - 19 January, 2010
Quote:
Quote:
but I really think the beat grid is gonna be lock with the 4 decks.

that would be totally ridiculous... this has nothing to do with 4 decks....
SERATO???? please confirm or deny...[/quoteIO

y would it be ridiculous? Effects are gonna be locked without dedicated devices.

Serato post:
The Xone:DX encourages performers to remix, rework and make new music on the fly. With 4-decks in action and BPM based effects, Serato have adopted new synchronization options for this next generation of ITCH. An additional beat grid has been added to make quick work of more complex mix arrangements



Now they are talking about effects but did mention the lock the are also talking about the grid. So tell me where they have said the grid is gonna be for all users!
casket hands 1:11 AM - 19 January, 2010
Quote:

Serato post:
The Xone:DX encourages performers to remix, rework and make new music on the fly. With 4-decks in action and BPM based effects, Serato have adopted new synchronization options for this next generation of ITCH. An additional beat grid has been added to make quick work of more complex mix arrangements

everything but the word "this" in this quote leads me to think "all users".
Dj Fitty 1:19 AM - 19 January, 2010
Wishfull, too bad they are talking about effects also. With all these free updates how do you think they make money? But you know what? I hope that I am wrong!
kraal 1:52 AM - 19 January, 2010
dj fitty i'll bet ya...... you name the stakes .........

but remember last time some one wanted to bet me on this forum i would of releved them of thier vci-300 :)
maestromind 1:54 AM - 19 January, 2010
Quote:

but remember last time some one wanted to bet me on this forum i would of releved them of thier vci-300 :)

+1 I remember that!
Dj Fitty 2:00 AM - 19 January, 2010
Let keep it simple n friendly. U got paypal?
Dj Fitty 2:03 AM - 19 January, 2010
25 pay on the release of 2.0
kraal 2:32 AM - 19 January, 2010
i wont take this bet cause i am cheating there is a post on this forum that says that it is available for all past and future controllers.... i beleive it was matt-c that posted it
djcerla 2:37 AM - 19 January, 2010
I take it!
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 3:03 AM - 19 January, 2010
ITCH 2.0 will be free, so no need to worry :D
kraal 3:07 AM - 19 January, 2010
matt-c the conversation is if beatgrid will be available for controllers other than the xone
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 4:19 AM - 19 January, 2010
Sorry... just saw the "25 pay for 2.0" post and thought there was still confusion on ITCH 2.0.
Zuck 5:41 AM - 19 January, 2010
Haha, you guys are killing me.

Hey Fitty, don't bet Kraal, he's like psychically connected to Serato or something.

Nice mix on Youtube Cerla!

So what's the verdict Matt-C? probably.
casket hands 6:39 AM - 19 January, 2010
Conspicuously unanswered by matt-c. I'm starting to get worried :D
kraal 7:12 AM - 19 January, 2010
matt just wants the bet to go on :)
Kanario Dj Producer 8:28 AM - 19 January, 2010
This was from the news letter posted in November.
Quote:

New versions of ITCH DJ software

The next couple of months will see a number of 1.x ITCH software versions shipped with the new controllers. The next online ITCH release will be a small 1.5 update in late 2009 and the big 2.0 in early 2010.
Quote:


I posted the following and people are still confused. I don't think they comprehend what they are reading!
Quote:

To have different versions of software for each controller from a support standpoint will be hell! I don't think Serato is going that route. I can agree that developing one version for a specific controller will do wonders in the stability department, but developing for every hardware doesn't make sense.

We can't wait for a release now, imagine if they have to work on 10 versions in the future!

I think what Serato meant in the news letter was, that with the new controllers coming out there will be a small incremental update to suit the needs for that particular hardware, then they will put us all on the same page with the big 2.0 update.


posted recently by me also:

Let's not forget that Itch 2.0 is going to bring all of the different versions together. It will work like this: If you connect the Xone Dx, Itch will automatically recognize it. And will unlock the 4 decks. If you hook up an effect controller, Itch 2.0 will do the same and unlock its features. Etc, etc, etc.....



2.0 is going to include all the features Serato consider to be stable for that release, including the beat grids. Beat grids are not the Second Coming of Christ! is a new algorithm, borrowed from Ableton Live to keep songs in sync! No more babysitting to keep two songs in beat! Specially for electronic music...Why will Serato make this exclusive only for 4 decks? just so you can bring the servers down in protest, posting 1000 threads!

what's wrong with 2 decks?

i don't want to worry about a song drifting while a hot blonde is requesting a song!
My DJ slogan is "MIXING Work with Pleasure"!!!!

I also want to add that the tempo sync is not cheating! songs have a structure, intro, outro, middle part, chorus, breaks, etc. Even if the two tracks are in sync, the DJ is responsible for the smooth blending of the 2 songs, I've heard DJs making a Solo artist sound like a Duo or Triplet!
Quantization for looping I consider cheating, you don't even need to hear the song, press the bottoms, you will always get a nice loop. Getting the perfect loop without quantization is a skill!!!!

Now, in order for Ableton and Itch to communicate they need to share technology. The backbone of Ableton software is syncronization so, you can concentrate on producing.

Serato is the Beneficiary of Ablenton Techonlogy. In turn, Abelton is getting exposure to the Serato DJ base, which will increase its sales. Since Ableton Live was created for the DJ- Producer in mind.

Djs out there Mark my words, if you don't learn how to produce or remix popular song (make them exclusive to you) with your own sound; you won't make it to the next level.... Wish my last name was Getta right now! Pooofff!!

Flipping the Script:
I think it is a good idea for guys in this forum to put their age next to their name, so you know you are talking to an adult!!!!

Nuff Said!
kraal 2:01 PM - 19 January, 2010
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Djs out there Mark my words, if you don't learn how to produce or remix popular song (make them exclusive to you) with your own sound; you won't make it to the next level.... Wish my last name was Getta right now! Pooofff!!

!

yup
MusicDan 2:12 PM - 19 January, 2010
The next level? What do yo mean by that? As a club DJ? I am a wedding DJ, do I need to produce/remix songs and make them mine? Is my goal to end up in crooklynclan.net? Or become the next Guetta/DJ AM? No, not right now anyway. And I don't think I will get there. Am I not going to get to the next level? That's fine with me, I enjoy what I do. Will it be cool and exiting to be able to remix songs? Yes, but I like to them live. I rarely record anything I do, cause I would be tempted to play them back at a party and that would be cheating the guests. Do I use remixes from crooklyn clan, yes but not all the time and I usually modify them, and like I said, on the fly not pre-recorded. Just my 2 pennies.
Dj Fitty 2:30 PM - 19 January, 2010
bet still stands
Dj Fitty 2:31 PM - 19 January, 2010
Quote:
Quote:

Djs out there Mark my words, if you don't learn how to produce or remix popular song (make them exclusive to you) with your own sound; you won't make it to the next level.... Wish my last name was Getta right now! Pooofff!!

!

yup


+1 oh my age is 43
MusicDan 2:32 PM - 19 January, 2010
Sorry, 30.
kraal 2:33 PM - 19 January, 2010
musicdan you are limiting yourself still with saying that :)
no one is saying making remix of the electric slide. but simply editing songs to be more dj and crowd friendly. I will tell you this right now even as a wedding dj if you have 2 dj's and one has custom edits the word of mouth from that one will get them more gigs
kraal 2:50 PM - 19 January, 2010
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bet still stands

www.serato.com
kraal 3:03 PM - 19 January, 2010
Quote:
bet still stands

and one more ---

Beatgrid sync will be available for use in ITCH, the functionality of how you use may be different with each controller depending on the interface, although each controller has a SYNC button.
MusicDan 3:07 PM - 19 January, 2010
I see what you are saying. One thing though, all my work is word of mouth. I have cards that have lasted me for years, cause I rarely give them out. I have had other DJ's put their cards out at some of my gigs. I usually have them removed, not because I don't want them to take my biz, but to not let my reputation, which is how I get most of my work, suffer because some clown thinks that they can do better, and the people who have done that are newbies. Not my name. I am very well known.

I am very good at what I do, and I am not only talking about DJing, but everything involved in a wedding. I ask a million questions even before I have them sign a contract. I always get the same responses, "nobody told me that", or "why didn't the catering hall suggest that." And my response is that I have been doing this for 15 years, and another 10 years before that I was around it with my big brother who also started when he was in his teens.
kraal 3:14 PM - 19 January, 2010
see musicDan that is still part of it you dont customized your tracks but you do customize the experience. I have been asked if i do weddings and there is a guy that just is really entertaining as a wedding dj i defer people to him cause i know his experience generating skills will be better than anything i can provide... but honesttly i don't look wedding dj's in the same light.
Dj Fitty 3:21 PM - 19 January, 2010
damn Kraal, I fold
kraal 3:26 PM - 19 January, 2010
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damn Kraal, I fold

told you i was cheating... i read almost every post on here even in the help forums .... there is a lot of info hidden it the words of serato mods :)
djcerla 3:38 PM - 19 January, 2010
Hi fitty you can send my 25 bucks via PayPal, cerla@tin.it

:-)
marcA 3:39 PM - 19 January, 2010
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damn Kraal, I fold

LOL
spazz 4:00 PM - 19 January, 2010
Good stuff man... lol
maestromind 4:05 PM - 19 January, 2010
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my response is that I have been doing this for 15 years, and another 10 years before that I was around it with my big brother who also started when he was in his teens.

MusicDan, didn't you say you were 30 two posts above that? Have you been DJing since 5?
maestromind 4:20 PM - 19 January, 2010
BTW I totally feel what kraal and Kanario were saying, but MusicDan's got his thing and it obviously works for him.
I think that there are two levels to being a DJ beyond the basics of just being able to mix and keep the beat. Level one is music knowledge: finding the hottest songs before they top the charts, knowing what the crowd wants before they do, pacing the party, etc. Level two is a differentiating skill - that can be remixing on the fly, MCing, rapping over a track or even playing an instrument (there's a house DJ here in SF who's started bringing in a guitarist, drummer and violinist to his sets - and it's definitely interesting). The point is that to get "to the next level" you definitely have to set yourself apart, but do it by tapping into where your passion and skills lie, or else you'll stick out like a sore thumb instead of standing head and shoulders over the rest. Anyways, just my 2c.
MusicDan 4:22 PM - 19 January, 2010
No I said I have been around DJing since I was 5. It always interested me. I first touched a pair of 1200's at a party (house party) when I was 10, and I messed up. As a matter a fact it was a remix that I tried live. I tried to drop a sample in a song that had dead space, on purpose, just the way the song is. The sample was the same length as the dead space, but I started the sample too late. And the sample came from the other TT. I had practiced for weeeks, and I had it down to a science. But that didnt deter me.

kraal, that's okay if you don't see me or your friend in the same light, at least for me, I Love what I do. 'Nough said.
MusicDan 4:27 PM - 19 January, 2010
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(there's a house DJ here in SF who's started bringing in a guitarist, drummer and violinist to his sets - and it's definitely interesting).


I have done that, but since I play mostly spanish music, I mean latin music, don't want to get Breakermixer mad, lol, or Cerla correcting me, I do it with percussionist. Congas, Timables and such. I even bring some hand percussion instruments myself like Cowbells, Guiros(as) and Maracas. It gives a different texture to the music, and people love it.
djcerla 4:29 PM - 19 January, 2010
Please no violinists in clubs... here in Italy it's very cool at the moment... electric violin... sounds like a newborn crying desperately for one hour, at 120 db.
Maskrider 4:32 PM - 19 January, 2010
Ok let's start a thread about doing custom edits.....Since I don't know how. I'm serious.
Zuck 5:31 PM - 19 January, 2010
Hey MusicDan, I don't think Kraal is saying your "lesser" of a dj just cause he says he sees wedding Dj's in a different light. (Correct me if I'm wrong Kraal cause I don't mean to speak for you) I've Dj clubs, lounges and weddings and they are TOTALY different.

If your a "name" dj then people come to the club to hear you and your style and they are looking for the way you have re edited/mixed songs. They're looking for that new track they have never heard. So I agree with Kanario on, "The next level" comment.

Now if your not a name or you're playing at a wedding or sometimes at a club or lounge then the crowed wants you to play what they know, the radio edits, and they won't always groove to a remix or your own edit. You can throw them in every once in a while but it is my experience that they want what they know. BTW, I can't stand this. I love making my own mixes and playing with sounds and it drives me crazy when some girl comes up to me and says, 'Why are you playing that version?"

As a wedding dj, I take requests, as a club dj no...unless she's really hot. Club dj's practice their sets, as a wedding dj I already know how to mix Disco and Motown. So their just different with totally different skill sets. Club Dj's don't always make the best Wedding Dj's and vise versa. There is an artistic skill to being a true club dj, a performer, just as there is a skill set to the performance of being a good wedding MC/DJ.

If it was up to me I'd just do clubs but I'm not a name nor am I near as good as some of the cats on this site and making $250 a night wouldn't help me with my $3,500 rent here in LA so I do Weddings so I can still do what I love.
MusicDan 5:35 PM - 19 January, 2010
Oh no, I didn't take it personal...:-)
seanbtrini 5:40 PM - 19 January, 2010
+1
kraal 7:07 PM - 19 January, 2010
musicDan dont take it as an insult. I say a DIFFERENT light, not anything less. as a club dj i just have to keep the party moving i would never take a wedding job cause you have to build memories as a wedding dj. I think there is more crowd management as part of djing...... this is off topic but i just want to set that out there no disrespect not looking down on just straight for a wedding dj it is more than music and mixing. and there is more at stake than just someone getting wasted on their first 21 st b-day
MusicDan 7:33 PM - 19 January, 2010
Oh don't worry my brother. Like I said I didn't take it personal. I know that it is a different thing all together. I use to do a weekly club gig back in the day. I didn't like it personally, but I think it had more to do with the patronage, not with the actual DJing.
seanbtrini 8:13 PM - 19 January, 2010
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When trying to post at work things sometimes don't work out the way you plan them.

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Now if your not a name or you're playing at a wedding or sometimes at a club or lounge then the crowed wants you to play what they know, the radio edits, and they won't always groove to a remix or your own edit. You can throw them in every once in a while but it is my experience that they want what they know. BTW, I can't stand this. I love making my own mixes and playing with sounds and it drives me crazy when some girl comes up to me and says, 'Why are you playing that version?"




Not playing in a club, being a newbie, I guess it's part of growing pains having to put up with crazy request and having to play what patrons know. I still too mix in what I want and different versions of what they want.
Kanario Dj Producer 7:37 AM - 20 January, 2010
@ Musicdan
If you are a wedding DJ and that's what you like, and you want to continue to do that for 10 more years. I ain't mad at you brother! You have 10+ years experience, and it takes DJs more than that, to realize that this is first an BUSINESS. And everything that apply to business, apply to DJs. Accounting, Public relations, branding, sales, marketing etc.

That is the reason that a wedding Dj command from $250 to $500 if he is good & lucky enough to land a wedding every month. A well known club Dj who understand the business, and have a following, command thousands of dollars. Including Bottle service, paid hotel and transportation when he is on tour, and later takes home the honey you was digging all night! He plays what he wants, and I almost forgot to mention, gets a warm up DJ.

Zuck was saying something about he disliking when people in weddings sometimes ask him "why is he playing that version of the song, or this or that! It is because in a wedding, The Dj is not the Star. The groom and the bride are! In the Club, the Dj is the STAR! Club Djs get more respect, and Producers enjoy watching people dancing to their latest creations, royalty checks on the way! The Club is one level, The Radio is another Level!

Zuck i know Djs who can pay your rent with a 2 hour set, spinning in the hottest Night Club in town! Erick Morillo i heard is flown to Ibiza once a month on a private Jet! DJ Am went on tour with Baker on a private Jet! Don't you want to be that man?

All the clubs you play in. Vegas, Miami, that's in your Press Kit (your resume). Or you want to hear from that old lady in the wedding, complaining about your scratching did some damage to her Miracle Ears! That goes in your resume too!

Don't confuse being comfortable doing what you like, with lack of Motivation! You can still be the wedding Dj, but now what you going to do is: Hire a couple of bedroom djs, train them, start a company, get 2 or 3 weddings a weekend, send your Djs to do the job! and just show up to collect the other half of your money! them go home and make love to your wife! :)) Get it??????

Remember guys: Private Djs will remain private! Life is a Hustle! If you don't Hustle, others will Hustle you! Murphy's Law still in Effect! Nuff Said!
MusicDan 12:48 PM - 20 January, 2010
OK!
djcerla 1:20 PM - 20 January, 2010
Nice idea.

If you guys want to have fun remixing some of my stuff (hard dance), here are the "remix packs" (vocals+midi files), no copyright issues here:

SISTER GOLDEN HAIR idisk.mac.com
KOMPUTERMELODY idisk.mac.com
CYBERDREAM idisk.mac.com
djcerla 1:26 PM - 20 January, 2010
ops, wrong topic... my bad
YESWEDJ.COM 1:30 PM - 20 January, 2010
Too late I already Downloaded them and let me tell you this stuff is really fresh....
djcerla 1:31 PM - 20 January, 2010
ahah! thanks, have fun (PS I've posted in the correct topic, too)
YESWEDJ.COM 1:32 PM - 20 January, 2010
Cool thanks man... It is funny because I have been looking for something like this for a few days...
Zuck 9:35 PM - 20 January, 2010
I like what you have to say Kanario. In fact, I agree with it 100%, I just think that I didn't explain myself properly. Life is about choices and the hustle, no doubt about that and I am completely happy with the choices I've made and I love what I do all the way around. I'm not sitting with a bottle in my hand saying, "i fuckin hate doing weddings." So in short, I get it!

So, just to clarify,

I don't like when I'm playing my set at a CLUB and someone comes up complaining that I'm not playing the radio edits. I just wish people could expand their horizons a bit to hear new things. As a DJ I love hearing the funky twists other dj's put on songs. I think there is more of an art to djing when you can make your own mix and your not just a guy who can beatmatch. It's the art of knowing what songs "feel" good together, the ebbs and flow of moving the crowed. You know when your bringing then song in underneath and the crowds like, "Is that...no way" and then you slip it in right as it bags and the crowed starts jumpin' up and down...ah...You gotta love it. Don't do anything unless you do it with 100% and with passion, this is why i totally respect what you're saying.

But screw that old lady that tells me to turn it down (sarcasm)
spazz 10:47 PM - 20 January, 2010
lol. word Zuck...
MusicDan 10:48 PM - 20 January, 2010
You said it best Zuck. I just wrote OK, not to impolite, I just couldn't articulate it at that moment like you have now. Thank you.

Let's keep doing what we love, as long as it's 100% it will be great.
Kanario Dj Producer 6:12 AM - 21 January, 2010
I'm glad you guys didn't take what i said as a personal attack, that was not my intention.

We Kool!!
MusicDan 1:29 PM - 21 January, 2010
We Kool!!!
zaguama 2:42 PM - 21 January, 2010
so ITCH 2.0........................................ probably Q2? lol
Cid K 3:12 PM - 21 January, 2010
Q2 Next Year yes.
zaguama 3:16 PM - 21 January, 2010
Its not just serato though, everyone is just moving slowly. I've been waiting for the traktor update that will give native support for the NS7, still nothing :)
Cid K 3:31 PM - 21 January, 2010
I think they are working on fixing all the issues regarding the Xone DX.
Zuck 4:13 PM - 21 January, 2010
Is there going to be a big time difference in the release o SSL 2.0 and Itch 2.0?
Cid K 4:26 PM - 21 January, 2010
Yes.... I Say maybe 3-6 months.

SSL 2.0 will be out before Itch 2.0. The way i see it, we will see SSL 2.1 and Itch 2.0 at the same time, since Ableton The Bridge get's released with SSL 2.1 so i figure they will want to add that Bridge feature with Itch 2.0 since it's a big update.

But u know am juste speculating, maybe am dead wrong also but been reading alot on the forums and all points to that.
BadBoyChubs 5:13 PM - 21 January, 2010
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Yes.... I Say maybe 3-6 months.

I will be back in June, see u all , LOLOL
YESWEDJ.COM 4:14 AM - 25 January, 2010
I do not mean to be rude,
I purchased the NS7+ NS7 Case+ NSFX= Spending over 2k on this products.
For some reason I do not feel like I spend my money wisely, Since the bottom line is The NS7 has not been out for a year and they are now coming out with a new version of it which makes my NS7 almost outdated. The Itch was to be updated last quarter of 2009 and then it was extended to 2010. The NSFX is not full of effects yet as I was expecting since I already have it for around three months. To be honest with you I think the NS7 should have had the built in NSFX like the New V7 has it. I know do not have enough USB ports available plus the NS7 Beat Grid is not available. The Itch software it very stable but It does not have video capabilities like the SErato Scratch Live. I love the Idea of digital turn table but I still think the NS7 is kind of big and difficult to carry. I think the V7 will safe space since We will have 2 V7 and a mixers which will be easy to carry. I do not think that the Crates are too reliable since I had to use Itunes which I am not a big fan since the Crates will delete my music from time to time. They should have never made the NSFX available until they had a cool version of itch that will support more samples. For those reading I have never use virtual DJ just in case someone wants to come up and assume I am a virtual user when I am not. I was a serato scratch life user and I got kind of use to the bells and features. I changed to NS7 cause I think it is changing the DJ world but unfortunately I got caught up with Itch which is probably the first Version of Serato when It first came out years ago. Now the NS7 out of the sudden will drop in price since they realease a much cooler turntable with built in effects, easier to carry, with a better version of itch, and now you can mix 4 channels. Do not get me wrong I felt the NS7 was a great buy but the new product announcement changed my mind. Now I have to carry the NS7, and Deal with the NSFX which is not DJ friendly since it is so far away to use... Anyone feel the same way I feel... Please comments...
kraal 4:57 AM - 25 January, 2010
i would like to know personally how you feel your ns7 is out dated?
the actual ns7 is technically the same as the v7 + a mixer and is basically more convient.

you are saying 2 v7's and a mixer is easier to carry than an ns7?
the ns7 nor the v7 has video and if video is added then they BOTH will get it.

the price will not drop seeing that it is still cheaper than the combo of 2 v7's and a mixer

i think you are having a case of the grass looks greener looking at the v7.
i know you think the nsfx looks too far away to use but to me the v7 seems a little less convient using the effect for deckA you have to use the same hand that you are manipulating the platter with.....

i am also not being rude just thinking you are thinking the v7 is better than what you already have but it is the same .... understand?
kraal 5:00 AM - 25 January, 2010
btw the v7 will only come with a 'better version' of itch cause itch would of updated by then so your ns7 will still be the exact same as 2 v7's

you also will not be able to mix on four decks with the v7 unless you get the x7 and use 2 laptops
DJMIA 5:09 AM - 25 January, 2010
Kraal is right, nothing really of importance has changed on the V7 to make me want to convert from my NS7 to the V7.
KLH 6:02 AM - 25 January, 2010
+1 The V7 doesn't seem to be a true revolutionary product, IMHO. I see it as a compromise to those wanting to split the NS7 into decks and a mixer. It "appears" more affordable , more transportable, and more flexible than the NS7. The fact is that buying TWO V7s, which most would do, is actually MORE expensive, less transportable, and LESS flexible than the NS7.

Kudos for Numark for listening to potential customers, but at the end of the day, the NS7 is (IMHO) the better product. Now I might change that opinion if the V7 could be integrated with the NS7... but I don't think that Numark would do that.

As it stands, I'm content with the NS7 and NSFX. If the Bridge allows Ableton to be the "missing ITCH sampler," I'll jump for joy. If video eventually comes, I'll be impressed.

-KLH
DJ.AJ 5:34 PM - 25 January, 2010
Agree with KLH 100%
maestromind 7:03 PM - 25 January, 2010
Agree with all the above as well. I've seen an inexplicable trend on the Serato forums of people bitching about Numark/Rane/whoever releasing new and updated hardware. Do you guys complain to Apple when they release a new MBP (which costs well over $2k) too?
I would completely agree with you if Numark suddenly stopped supporting the NS7 or if they released some bit of kit that was only compatible with the V7. The fact is, DJing is a technologically driven field now, and you acknowledge this by willingly buying into the SSL/ITCH paradigm. If anything, we should be happy that there are continual improvements and developments that allow us to do things which weren't possible a few years ago.
Just remember, some punk-ass kid using the the latest technology and some pirated Lady Gaga remixes will never compete with a real DJ who stays on top of the industry without losing his roots.
casket hands 7:11 PM - 25 January, 2010
and lets not forget that the NS7 is still a flagship product for Numark. its unlikely that numark will ditch a product that are pushing so hard.
KLH 1:52 AM - 26 January, 2010
I'm sure that Numark will follow the market - meaning, if the NS7 continues to sell well, it'll be supported. If the V7 sells and the NS7 DOESN'T, then Numark'll move on. I am convinced that the NS7 offers a higher value than the V7 for most. Time will tell. They're both good products.

-KLH
Kanario Dj Producer 6:03 AM - 27 January, 2010
I also want to add that the V7 and X7 were created for a different market. More products, more choices!

We can make a comparison to car manufacturers. They have a complete lineup of cars, 2 doors, 4 doors, different engines, for the same model, you feel me? you pick what best suit your needs.

In the case of new stuff coming out! I have not seen or heard of anybody not buying a car when they need it, just because the following year a new model is coming out!

I don't understand why people feel cheated, when they buy a product and a new one comes out! I don't think that they take into account that, the old product was 9 out 10 times purchased at a discount. I only see people complaining about it here!
Technology is not waiting for anybody!

They don't say anything about their computers, which i consider the weakest link.
Computers are outdated in about 3 to 6 months. Apple is every few months trying to make their own product line obsolete, so you can feel the need to get the new cool stuff coming from its factory! who cares about unibody or whatever. If it falls, it's going to break the same way my cheap PC does...
Kanario Dj Producer 11:40 AM - 27 January, 2010
I don't know if itch 2.0 it's going to look a little different, but I like the way SSl 2 looks when playing 3 or 4 decks......... To me it is a more natural look!

Check it out! Watchwww.youtube.com

I think if Itch goes the same route, we should have a cleaner interface because Itch does not need all those buttons on the screen!

Maybe, Itch is taking longer because Serato decided to implement this new layout!

What do you think?
Kanario Dj Producer 11:48 AM - 27 January, 2010
One more thing, SSL2 have different views and you can select between them. Depending on your style and how many decks you using.

This should be a top of the list things we should get for Itch

Check it out! Around minute 3:45

Watchwww.youtube.com
Zuck 5:06 PM - 27 January, 2010
I'm loven how you can choose what view setup you want. Let's hope this is in the works for Itch too. PLEASE!!!
casket hands 6:00 PM - 27 January, 2010
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I don't know if itch 2.0 it's going to look a little different, but I like the way SSl 2 looks when playing 3 or 4 decks......... To me it is a more natural look!

I agree, I hope itch has a layout like that. I think it will. right now we are probably seeing the xone:dx running on 1.6 and the 2.0 version will have prettier layouts like that.
deejay guru 7:27 PM - 27 January, 2010
does any one know if eventually when itch 2.0 comes out it will have a midi assignable sampler like torq had? or a pc work around option instead of mac only?

i would love to use that with my korg nano pad. i just got the ns7 two days ago and the left platter died and i took it back last night and got a new one.

im new to itch and the ns7.
djfrancov 7:38 PM - 27 January, 2010
hey GURU...get a life dude....lol
djfrancov 7:39 PM - 27 January, 2010
Really dude? that quick? wow
kraal 7:53 PM - 27 January, 2010
deejay guru you can use the bridge possibly
djfrancov 7:55 PM - 27 January, 2010
Who knows how long thats gonna take, get a mac dude.
YESWEDJ.COM 12:14 AM - 28 January, 2010
We should set a rule, anyone who uses a PC should be on the virtual dj forum...
LOL.....
Antony Ellis 12:15 AM - 28 January, 2010
shut it......
djfrancov 12:17 AM - 28 January, 2010
yeaaaaaaa....lol well, I own VDJ for video and when I called them couse their Softw. wouldn't work with my Mac, they said is all their energy was gonna be put into the PC version of VDJ.So pretty much said if you have a Mac it wouldn't be the same.
czar 5:43 AM - 28 January, 2010
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yeaaaaaaa....lol well, I own VDJ for video and when I called them couse their Softw. wouldn't work with my Mac, they said is all their energy was gonna be put into the PC version of VDJ.So pretty much said if you have a Mac it wouldn't be the same.


pretty much like Serato and Mac. ..
Maskrider 6:34 AM - 28 January, 2010
I know I'll be saving for that Ableton live.
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 10:54 PM - 28 January, 2010
Hye czar - your comment is slightly misleading, and can cause confusion for some users.

Serato designs software for both PC and Mac alike. We don't prioritize any development for either platform and all things being equal, ITCH or Scratch Live will run on both PCs and Macs equally well... However, what you seem to be talking about is the fact that PC vendors can use poor parts, poor drivers or poor integration of their software and some quirks of Windows OS that need toning down for professional use.

Macs by a long shot are a better made and developed computer system, so what you may see is a much more advanced computer ecosystem at work, not a 'less developed software'. Just think of Macs as the top end of the laptop system, rather than a divide between PCs and Macs.

:D
nik39 9:21 AM - 29 January, 2010
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We don't prioritize any development for either platform and all things being equal, ITCH or Scratch Live will run on both PCs and Macs equally well.

I have to disagree, you attempt to develop in such a way that both platforms should perform equal..

However, until VSL 1.2 the chances to get VSL running properly on a PC was quite slim.

Also... the Mac version of VSL has more features than the PC version. That's a fact ;)
spazz 3:22 PM - 29 January, 2010
What's VSL?
BadBoyChubs 4:17 PM - 29 January, 2010
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What's VSL?

Video Scratch Live
BadBoyChubs 4:17 PM - 29 January, 2010
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What's VSL?

Video Scratch Live
spazz 4:21 PM - 29 January, 2010
Thanks BBC...
Kanario Dj Producer 6:19 PM - 29 January, 2010
Once again we talking about Macs & PCs!

Let's keep in mind that people are comparing cheap PCs to expensive Macs. It is an unfair comparison! 95% of the PC DJs only spend between $1000 & $1500 on their laptop computers! 98% of the time they pick the wrong one! Laptops designed to do everything for everydody, except professional Audio reproduction!!!!

I'm a PC! I paid about $875 for my Toshiba Satellite 2 years ago. I was a Scratch Live user never had any problems with crashes. Then made the switch to Itch, my processor falls into minimum spec category. My laptop crashed occasionally in the early stages of Itch, like everybody else. After learning how to optimize my PC for Audio, I can use Itch with the Usb buffer size slider @ 2. With the minimum processor power recommended by Serato, that is unheard of!!!!!

A fellow Dj bought a PC about 3 Months ago, more processing power than mine. His laptop is crashing twice or more when he is DJing! He paid about $1100. His problem? not the specs but mostly poor choice, you can say "Get a Mac" easy choice and I agree, top choice is easy.

Now, enter "Rain" Computers. Unless you are a sound or recording engineer, you probably never heard of them. Rain is the top end of the laptop PC audio system!!!
Easy choice! Unless you say "budget" more than your honey's name! www.rainrecording.com

Stay tuned: I will start a discussion explaining how to optimize your Windows Vista PC for Audio!
kraal 6:50 PM - 29 January, 2010
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Stay tuned: I will start a discussion explaining how to optimize your Windows Vista PC for Audio!

be sure to put that in a different thread ..... one that i can link too when questions about how to do it show up ;)
.dedrick. 7:01 PM - 29 January, 2010
Being a PC user most of my life, I really despise my Macbook. Just the OS. Luckily I only have to click 1 button to open ITCH and I don't have to see the OS anymore haha.
djfrancov 7:02 PM - 29 January, 2010
really... I own both and OSX is so much nicer.
.dedrick. 7:03 PM - 29 January, 2010
Unless I want to look at my Megan Fox background, then I just swipe my 4 fingers up and I can see her :P
nik39 10:53 PM - 29 January, 2010
My macs better, no my PC's better. yap yap dap dap.... time to unsubscribe from this thread.
Warren T. 8:00 AM - 30 January, 2010
You know...I always wonder why people feel that a Mac is not worth its price? You can use a Macbook to run both Windows & Mac OS (none of that hackintosh crap on PCs). And best of all...it's proven to run Windows very smoothly via BootCamp. You're getting the best of both worlds here.
.dedrick. 10:08 AM - 30 January, 2010
Except the fact that your Battery life goes from 7 hours to 2 hours while idling.
YESWEDJ.COM 3:35 PM - 30 January, 2010
My PC is always updating something. It takes a while to turn on. There is always a virus threat and so on. I do not have to deal with that with my Mac.
Dj Ace 9:39 PM - 30 January, 2010
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Once again we talking about Macs & PCs!

Let's keep in mind that people are comparing cheap PCs to expensive Macs. It is an unfair comparison! 95% of the PC DJs only spend between $1000 & $1500 on their laptop computers! 98% of the time they pick the wrong one! Laptops designed to do everything for everydody, except professional Audio reproduction!!!!

I'm a PC! I paid about $875 for my Toshiba Satellite 2 years ago. I was a Scratch Live user never had any problems with crashes. Then made the switch to Itch, my processor falls into minimum spec category. My laptop crashed occasionally in the early stages of Itch, like everybody else. After learning how to optimize my PC for Audio, I can use Itch with the Usb buffer size slider @ 2. With the minimum processor power recommended by Serato, that is unheard of!!!!!

A fellow Dj bought a PC about 3 Months ago, more processing power than mine. His laptop is crashing twice or more when he is DJing! He paid about $1100. His problem? not the specs but mostly poor choice, you can say "Get a Mac" easy choice and I agree, top choice is easy.

Now, enter "Rain" Computers. Unless you are a sound or recording engineer, you probably never heard of them. Rain is the top end of the laptop PC audio system!!!
Easy choice! Unless you say "budget" more than your honey's name! www.rainrecording.com

Stay tuned: I will start a discussion explaining how to optimize your Windows Vista PC for Audio!


You can get a Macbook Pro 13-15 inch in this price range
DJdaveZ 1:14 AM - 31 January, 2010
now that this thread has nothing to do with ITCH 2.0 once again.....


anyone really know when we might see it? ITCH 2.0 that is...
kraal 1:17 AM - 31 January, 2010
problem is the answer to that question is ' when it is ready'
The Reverand 1:28 AM - 31 January, 2010
I love how any lengthy discussion in the DJ tech world eventually ends up Mac vs PC.
Kanario Dj Producer 8:38 AM - 31 January, 2010
Apple computers are better indeed, because they pretty much design and built everything. Software & most of the Hardware(hardware companies built to Apple's specifications). So they oversee every quality control.

Remember i said "better computers" not better software, Microsoft built or write software. They don't built computers. They license Windows to all computer companies in the world, basically " A one size fits all" operating system! So quality suffers!

It is time to put the blame on PC manufactures also. Don't blame Windows because Dell didn't put the best drivers and audio components in your computer. Their best customers work in the OFFICE not in a DJ BOOTH! You know what I'm sayin'?
Maskrider 9:54 AM - 31 January, 2010
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I love how any lengthy discussion in the DJ tech world eventually ends up Mac vs PC.



It always does......
DJ GaFFle 3:43 PM - 31 January, 2010
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Once again we talking about Macs & PCs!

Let's keep in mind that people are comparing cheap PCs to expensive Macs. ...www.rainrecording.com...

Good for them but like you said, they come with high price$... Might as well get a Mac.
Thebasementwonder 4:04 PM - 31 January, 2010
Well Said Kanario Dj Producer I agree 1000% in that. Only reason I will get a mac is cuz its so dam sexy (LOL) and they did the same as windows in reference One computers fits all by intergrating windows in the mix. So both partys have equal share in all this
DJdaveZ 9:20 PM - 31 January, 2010
they should change the name from Itch General Discussion to Mac Vs. PC because everything comes back to that... wtf?!
Kanario Dj Producer 10:37 PM - 31 January, 2010
This is keeping us entertained, while Serato is working on 2.0.....
djfrancov 10:48 PM - 31 January, 2010
lol
Maskrider 11:01 PM - 31 January, 2010
I was just thinking....How come ITCH 1.5 has never gone final yet and now were having a huge update with 2.0 are they sleeping on us.
kraal 4:13 AM - 1 February, 2010
2.0 had been announced well before 1.5
Dj Ricky Redz 3:47 PM - 1 February, 2010
i doubt that itch 2.0 will be available before summer!
Dj Ricky Redz 3:48 PM - 1 February, 2010
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2.0 had been announced well before 1.5

hoping that they'll prove me wrong!!!
kraal 3:53 PM - 1 February, 2010
well we even have 1.5 before summer ? :)
maestromind 4:24 PM - 1 February, 2010
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well we even have 1.5 before summer ? :)

Yeah, it's been in RC for a looong time.
ANALOGICO 4:30 PM - 1 February, 2010
Hello ITCH users

When the beta testing for ITCH 2.0??? ... I'm bored of waiting. We await the final version but we want to keep trying something. We need an exact date for the relase
KLH 9:33 PM - 1 February, 2010
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We need an exact date for the relase

Um, no we don't. We're not going anywhere... Upgrades will come out when Serato feels that they're ready. That is how the stability of the Serato products are maintained.

-KLH
Gonzo89 10:17 PM - 1 February, 2010
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i doubt that itch 2.0 will be available before summer!


i agree
Cid K 10:25 PM - 1 February, 2010
Next year for Itch 2.0!
djcerla 10:28 PM - 1 February, 2010
CONFIRMED, February 17th official Beta release

blog.mammenellarete.it
MusicDan 10:50 PM - 1 February, 2010
You got me!!!

Should have known, it wasn't a Serato link.
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 11:20 PM - 1 February, 2010
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We don't prioritize any development for either platform and all things being equal, ITCH or Scratch Live will run on both PCs and Macs equally well.

I have to disagree, you attempt to develop in such a way that both platforms should perform equal..

However, until VSL 1.2 the chances to get VSL running properly on a PC was quite slim.

Also... the Mac version of VSL has more features than the PC version. That's a fact ;)



Hi nic39. You will note I didn't mention the Video-SL program as that is Quicktime based in it's first release. You will note I said ITCH and Scratch Live.

So your comments, while correct, weren't relevant to my post.

We are trying to spread knowledge, not confuse the general users.

Thanks for your understanding.
:D
nik39 11:59 PM - 1 February, 2010
No problem, Madd-C, I thought Video-SL was standing for for Video-ScratchLive and I thought it had some correlation to Scratch Live. Sorry for the confusion. Feel free to ban me.

:-D
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 12:19 AM - 2 February, 2010
Video-SL is a separate program nesting within Scratch Live itself, so since it's inception it had a different development philosophy. Although as you have pointed out, we have leveled the playing field now :D

As for your name, sorry for calling you nic39 :(
nik39 12:23 AM - 2 February, 2010
No worries. We're having a bit of fun here ;)

Feel free to ban nic39.
BadBoyChubs 12:27 AM - 2 February, 2010
Will the Ns7 get any new functions with 2.0 jus like how they made the delete button (shift).

patiently waiting on 2.0, but is 1.5 final ready?
djfrancov 12:30 AM - 2 February, 2010
what an ego NIK39...lol
czar 12:35 AM - 2 February, 2010
I like nik39 +1
djfrancov 12:59 AM - 2 February, 2010
mmmm......lol
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 1:01 AM - 2 February, 2010
I think we've got nic39 reserved for you too... just like Coke and Coca Cola :-P
Kanario Dj Producer 3:12 AM - 2 February, 2010
I have created a new discussion: How to optimize Windows Vista for Audio!
Check it out!
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Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 3:44 AM - 2 February, 2010
Big thanks to www.audioforums.com for the linked article:
www.audioforums.com
1000 Cutts 6:02 PM - 3 February, 2010
So will I be able to have 4 decks with my VCI-300? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
kraal 6:10 PM - 3 February, 2010
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So will I be able to have 4 decks with my VCI-300? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

highly doubtfull
czar 7:07 PM - 3 February, 2010
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So will I be able to have 4 decks with my VCI-300? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

highly doubtfull


kraal sushhh
czar 7:17 PM - 3 February, 2010
Serato would benefit enormously from supporting 4 decks for all users with Itch. It would be very smart move or Traktor/Others might take the cake. (People are writing the code right now to support NS7 for example) Some people will still prefer to buy the Xone because of the extra hardware keys. The thing is that Itch brought Serato many new first time users and to keep a loyal following they will need to provide. Other software companies are getting better. If you don't think so that's you, new users specially will have no problem testing other options and when something works for them it will wrk. =)
DJFLEX83 7:22 PM - 3 February, 2010
Whn is the itch 2.0 coming out...?
DJFLEX83 7:22 PM - 3 February, 2010
we cant wait to see whats inside.
DJFLEX83 7:31 PM - 3 February, 2010
Whn is the itch 2.0 coming out...?
kraal 7:47 PM - 3 February, 2010
acording to serato twitter 'when it is ready'
DJFLEX83 7:47 PM - 3 February, 2010
how long..? march 2010.
kraal 8:10 PM - 3 February, 2010
atleast by march 2012
DJFLEX83 8:17 PM - 3 February, 2010
march 2012? i dnt think so, ssl 2.0 will be out on march 2010.
zaguama 8:32 PM - 3 February, 2010
1.5 is still RC whats the hurry? we still need RC2 then "RTM" of 1.5 then wrap up 2.0. im assuming several months to go.
DJdaveZ 11:53 PM - 3 February, 2010
1.2 RC ended up being the final version right?
The Reverand 11:13 PM - 4 February, 2010
First off glad to this discussion return to Itch 2.0

Second, the Czar man has a point Serato would do well to give 4 decks to all Itch users. But since Numark and Serato gave NS7 users a shift button I remain confident.

So kraal I wouldn't be so doubtful. Like that picture of the VFX-1 you were doubtful of, mine looks just like it. (just razin ya)
kraal 11:58 PM - 4 February, 2010
i am just saying doubtful with 2.0 .... in the future probable and yes you have every right to hit me with the vfx-1 comments... sometimes it is a good thing to be proven wrong
czar 12:13 AM - 5 February, 2010
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sometimes it is a good thing to be proven wrong


wise
Cid K 12:48 AM - 5 February, 2010
but how would that work with 4 decks for the NS7 and VCI-300 ? How would you go on with 4 volume slidders on a 2 chanel mixer and of course how to beat match all 4 chanal when you can use 2 ??
kraal 1:42 AM - 5 February, 2010
same way it works in traktor with the vci-100
KLH 6:50 AM - 5 February, 2010
4 decks would be nice but what about a sampler? Video? There's always the next important thing that we just HAVE to have. Wishing is free. Creating is expensive. Making money from something you created is just a gamble.

-KLH
YESWEDJ.COM 3:59 AM - 6 February, 2010
I agree KLH,

It is Funny how we are not even past the stage where the NS7 is all the way and people are already claiming 4 decks features on ITCH... My Real Wish list is to have Itch 2.0 with Samples, More on point reading BMPs, and so on... Then I will worrry about 4 decks...

Hate Me or Love Me " HaTe Me Or LoVe Me" Your call..
KLH 7:28 AM - 6 February, 2010
^^ We're on the same page. As long as the performance is good, I'm satisfied. I think Serato knows it's users better than we think.

-KLH
diezdiaz 9:36 AM - 6 February, 2010
If/when someone develops compatibility for traktor with the ns7, serato will definitly need to do something to stay on top. its getting a bit old on these forums the chorus of "be patient" in response to criticism of itch when the fact of the matter is: the competition has an awful lot of features I would like to be able to utilize. I bought the ns7 because its a well made piece of hardware and I was hoping to be able to use it how I want as a controller, I have no allegance or loyalty to serato - its just a fucking product. Research and development takes time and money but who wants to be patient when there are other options out there? Who wants to be patient waiting on news on an update with features that MAY or MAY NOT be added and may or may not require further purchases of controllers I have no need for but will have no choice to purchase if I wish to use these new features on a free update.

But that's all cynical speculation - we will just have to wait and see where things go.
nik39 9:53 AM - 6 February, 2010
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the competition has an awful lot of features I would like to be able to utilize.

Stability first. I'm down for it.

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I have no allegance or loyalty to serato - its just a fucking product.

Word. But Serato is the company - Itch is like Scratch Live a product.
diezdiaz 10:21 AM - 6 February, 2010
All this time I thought serato was a dishwashing detergent, I must be on the wrong forum.

Stability is key but I have my doubts that some of this is purely stability. Most of the big software developers make the majority of their money from licensing bundling their software with midi controllers - if you buy a controller it doesn't matter if you use the software that's bundled with it or not you are still paying a price for the software licensing.
We will have to wait and see what serato does but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if itch ends up being a pay to play system to take advantage of new features. The ONLY way it won't is if serato opens up to customization options and the CHOICE of midi mapping. Otherwise - the only way to take advantage of new features is more exclusive controllers. Seriously fuck that.
Maskrider 11:16 AM - 6 February, 2010
I guess ITCH is not for you.
akimo 1:06 PM - 6 February, 2010
I don't see why anyone would be suprised by the ITCH bashing. While the ns7 is great itch doesn't have some of the features built in that would make it comparable to other dj software at this time and that's where the complaints are at. Serato has the potential to make that kind of product for example ssl and that makes matters worse because some people believe that they are sleeping as far as itch is concerned. I know itch does what it designed for. So really it's numark's fault for restricting the ns7 to itch . I wish other dj software companies would properly configure their software to work with the NS7 because this is the only place to get info on the product. this forum is about ITCH and ITCH is all about simplicity and it just doesn't come with the extras for some unknown reason and when compared to other dj software features it sucks.......Itch is holding back the NS7...lol in just kidding
djcerla 1:42 PM - 6 February, 2010
Let's say someone likes it fast and very light... like a Lotus Elise.
The Reverand 4:01 PM - 6 February, 2010
Serato is definately more about stability than features. By the same token, there isn't anything, besides 4 decks, that Itch lacks that can't be obtained elsewhere. Sampler? I don't need one, I have Maschine for that.
marcA 4:22 PM - 6 February, 2010
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Some time ago I was very interested in buying this very nice car, but looking for information I found this: www.motorpasion.com
Then I bought an SUV with 2300 kg weight. Slower but much safer.

hopefully an AUDI :)
kraal 4:28 PM - 6 February, 2010
i for one think the ITCH bashing is stupid and pointless... sure you can desire new features. but all the 'I paid x amount of dollors' " all the other software has this" ect just shows ignorance on the purchaser not serato or ITCH.

ITCH is what it is currently and if that is what you want then buy it if not the get what you want or need.
Dj Fitty 4:55 PM - 6 February, 2010
Itch is so basic its almost not funny anymore. I bought itch because I got tired of Traktor always taking away and changing features that I like. I paid for Itch and it does what is says it would do and at almost $1000 I've paid for a right to bash or not and right now after using Itch and vci-300 for 6 to 7 nights a week at the club, i would not recommend it to anyone that wants to use effects, samples, or more than 2 decks unless they just had money to blow. This one to one hardware to software deal is not for everyone. Will I jump ship? no but hopefully i will find a solution for my effects but doubtful. So Bash on you paid for the right too!
Dj Ace 5:06 PM - 6 February, 2010
they have another product that you could buy that does all of that...its call scratchlive and you can buy it right now! Itch is a different and relatively new product especially when compared to SSL

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Itch is so basic its almost not funny anymore. I bought itch because I got tired of Traktor always taking away and changing features that I like. I paid for Itch and it does what is says it would do and at almost $1000 I've paid for a right to bash or not and right now after using Itch and vci-300 for 6 to 7 nights a week at the club, i would not recommend it to anyone that wants to use effects, samples, or more than 2 decks unless they just had money to blow. This one to one hardware to software deal is not for everyone. Will I jump ship? no but hopefully i will find a solution for my effects but doubtful. So Bash on you paid for the right too!
Dj Fitty 5:14 PM - 6 February, 2010
I should have started with scratchlive, but I plan to stick with itch with no effects until a better solution comes out for the vci-300. I have never had any issues with Itch at my gigs so I'm not in a rush. Just my recommendation would be not to go this route if you need effects.

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they have another product that you could buy that does all of that...its call scratchlive and you can buy it right now! Itch is a different and relatively new product especially when compared to SSL

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Itch is so basic its almost not funny anymore. I bought itch because I got tired of Traktor always taking away and changing features that I like. I paid for Itch and it does what is says it would do and at almost $1000 I've paid for a right to bash or not and right now after using Itch and vci-300 for 6 to 7 nights a week at the club, i would not recommend it to anyone that wants to use effects, samples, or more than 2 decks unless they just had money to blow. This one to one hardware to software deal is not for everyone. Will I jump ship? no but hopefully i will find a solution for my effects but doubtful. So Bash on you paid for the right too!
Dj Ace 5:15 PM - 6 February, 2010
SSL startup cost is ALOT more money considering the cost of turntables, cdj, mixer etc...but Itch's all in one solution is a great bargain and can used in proffesional settings...less than 900-1200 for the controller and software (with free updates)....250-300 for effects (with free upgrades) 4 deck support with allen and heath dx...Confirmed bridge support (there is your sampler) and still is a bargain! compared to any other solution you can mention...itch in my opinion was designed for the DJ that does not want to midi map everything. It's for the DJ that wants the buttons on there controller pre mapped and does exactly what it is labeled to do...a cheaper less expensive product that is rock solid (and as it seems DJ's that don't make as much money? since they complain so much about how expensive gear is...
akimo 5:15 PM - 6 February, 2010
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they have another product that you could buy that does all of that...its call scratchlive and you can buy it right now! Itch is a different and relatively new product especially when compared to SSL

I would if it worked with the ns7
Not everybody wants maschine or needs it
djcerla 5:17 PM - 6 February, 2010
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Itch is so basic its almost not funny anymore


So hugely wrong.
Dj Ace 5:19 PM - 6 February, 2010
The NS7 was designed to work exclusively with itch...if you want SSL features, or for that matter torq/tractor features then make that software/hardware your goal...instead of bashing Serato or what itch lacks. Itch will continue to evolve but if you cant wait there or other products out NOW
Dj Fitty 5:20 PM - 6 February, 2010
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Itch is so basic its almost not funny anymore


So hugely wrong.



whats wrong with thats, its the truth thats why it works so well.
Dj Ace 5:21 PM - 6 February, 2010
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Itch is so basic its almost not funny anymore


So hugely wrong.


I agree...I think its the DJ that is using it that makes it basic...its all about the creativity you express with it

We used to use just turntables and a mixer and could rock the hell out of a crowd in so many different ways...was is the problem these days?
kraal 5:21 PM - 6 February, 2010
there is more constructive ways to get features added..... take it like this if all you do is bash a product the developers will probably put all you comments in the back of the pile or even just ignore them. If however you constructively make suggestions then you may get more accomplished.

statements like i can do more in VDJ doesn't help any one but

but saying i want a sampler like this one can be helpful
Watchwww.youtube.com
kraal 5:21 PM - 6 February, 2010
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We used to use just turntables and a mixer and could rock the hell out of a crowd in so many different ways...was is the problem these days?

word ....
Dj Ace 5:23 PM - 6 February, 2010
we did flangers, echo outs, scratching etc to vary our sets dramtically...now we have more tools (too many sometimes if you ask me) for the average DJ to use effectivly
djcerla 5:23 PM - 6 February, 2010
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We used to use just turntables and a mixer and could rock the hell out of a crowd in so many different ways...was is the problem these days?

word ....


exactly my point
akimo 5:26 PM - 6 February, 2010
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We used to use just turntables and a mixer and could rock the hell out of a crowd in so many different ways...was is the problem these days?

word ....




thats great if it works for you does that mean it must work for me too
zaguama 5:29 PM - 6 February, 2010
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If/when someone develops compatibility for traktor with the ns7, serato will definitly need to do something to stay on top. its getting a bit old on these forums the chorus of "be patient" in response to criticism of itch when the fact of the matter is: the competition has an awful lot of features I would like to be able to utilize.


Why would Serato care?, the NS7 is still an ITCH product and they get their cut everytime someone buys one regarless if you decide to use it with virtual dj or traktor, so at the end this will benefit both Serato and Numark unless they release an NS7 similar under the Traktor brand.

Right now if the NS7 is not compatible with traktor has nothing to do with Numark or Serato, Numark (unless they are lyers which i dont think so) have provided all the necessary information to different software developers so they can add the NS7 to their native controllers is up to them how long it takes to incorporate the device but at any point i've seen Numark denying cooperation with other companies.
Dj Fitty 5:29 PM - 6 February, 2010
so i guess yall dont want effects. And yes I do those same things with Itch. c'mon yall use those same arguments of use to rock the party with turntables and this and that. Well I am 43 and can do the same thing, my question is to you is y do YOU have itch then? I know y I have it and I use almost every night with no problems, I just would not recommend to anyone that want effects or a sampler and not willing to put the extra cash out.
Dj Fitty 5:30 PM - 6 February, 2010
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we did flangers, echo outs, scratching etc to vary our sets dramtically...now we have more tools (too many sometimes if you ask me) for the average DJ to use effectivly

thats true
kraal 5:30 PM - 6 February, 2010
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thats great if it works for you does that mean it must work for me too

no but at this point you need to make 'basics' work
Dj Fitty 5:33 PM - 6 February, 2010
the problem is ITS 2010, LOL NOT 1988,
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We used to use just turntables and a mixer and could rock the hell out of a crowd in so many different ways...was is the problem these days?

word ....


exactly my point
kraal 5:39 PM - 6 February, 2010
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so i guess yall dont want effects. And yes I do those same things with Itch. c'mon yall use those same arguments of use to rock the party with turntables and this and that. Well I am 43 and can do the same thing, my question is to you is y do YOU have itch then? I know y I have it and I use almost every night with no problems, I just would not recommend to anyone that want effects or a sampler and not willing to put the extra cash out.

what extra money are you talking about?????
how much is tractor and a quality controller??
how much is SSL box or a rane mixer and turn tables and needles?
vci-300 + vfx-1=$1050
Dj Ace 5:39 PM - 6 February, 2010
my point being itch just came out less than 2 years...the developers are working hard on upgrades (new stable upgrades) everybody want these upgrades free or super cheap...they are a company first and have to pay there employees to develop these new "features"...To make it super solid so that the customer is satisfied take a lot of time and money. So if you cant wait, buy Traktor, SSL, or whatever then you will have everything you stating is possible....with your old school trusty turntables LOL

of "buy some NEXT GENERATION hardware to supplement the software
Dj Fitty 5:41 PM - 6 February, 2010
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so i guess yall dont want effects. And yes I do those same things with Itch. c'mon yall use those same arguments of use to rock the party with turntables and this and that. Well I am 43 and can do the same thing, my question is to you is y do YOU have itch then? I know y I have it and I use almost every night with no problems, I just would not recommend to anyone that want effects or a sampler and not willing to put the extra cash out.

what extra money are you talking about?????
how much is tractor and a quality controller??
how much is SSL box or a rane mixer and turn tables and needles?
vci-300 + vfx-1=$1050


$800
Dj Ace 5:42 PM - 6 February, 2010
By the way I have 2 rane ttm 57 and a vci/vfx plus a ns7...i own a pioneer efx 1000/denon hcs 1000 and spin video weekly at my residency...I use the vci/ns7 to do less demanding parties and when i wanna pull out all stunts SSL
I1Kirm 5:43 PM - 6 February, 2010
What's the story with basics? I mean if you add one of the available effects controllers ITCH has almost everything except sampler and video. With the arrival of 2.0 it will also add bridge, beatgrid and perhaps 4 decks for all. Also, Serato mod's have hinted that they are thinking about adding midi mapping, although with bridge this won't be necessary any more.
Now, compare all that with even the newest CDJs and you will see that ITCH is way ahead of what the majority of DJs uses around the world.
So, don't tell me ITCH is basic. It's just not fully automated, like VDJ. I think you'll be better of with a Hercules, VDJ, and a few crashes per gig.
djcerla 5:44 PM - 6 February, 2010
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the problem is ITS 2010, LOL NOT 1988


No, the problem is that DJs with no imagination and limited skills have no clues on how to squeeze the hell out of the very powerful ITCH software, and ask for more and more "features" that they'll end up never using.

And don't forget 2.0 is coming out with a truckload of new "features", not to mention the Bridge, that will allow for things no other DJ software will.
kraal 5:46 PM - 6 February, 2010
11kirm stop bringing logic to a piss fight :) the underlining words i am getting is no one wants to pay for anything they want it free and want it now
Dj Ace 5:48 PM - 6 February, 2010
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the problem is ITS 2010, LOL NOT 1988


No, the problem is that DJs with no imagination and limited skills have no clues on how to squeeze the hell out of the very powerful ITCH software, and ask for more and more "features" that they'll end up never using.

And don't forget 2.0 is coming out with a truckload of new "features", not to mention the Bridge, that will allow for things no other DJ software will.


I agree 100 percent with this LOL
I want to see a video of the complainers using all the tech bridge effects, etc LOL
Dj Fitty 5:50 PM - 6 February, 2010
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By the way I have 2 rane ttm 57 and a vci/vfx plus a ns7...i own a pioneer efx 1000/denon hcs 1000 and spin video weekly at my residency...I use the vci/ns7 to do less demanding parties and when i wanna pull out all stunts SSL


dont get me wrong, I think most of us on here are not bedroom DJ's and am not questioning your skills or skill level.
Dj Fitty 5:58 PM - 6 February, 2010
LOL and what is so powerful about Itch at the moment, It does what it does and it does it well! do you mean it awesome because you do almost every thing you could do and decks and carry it around in a back pack?
kraal 6:00 PM - 6 February, 2010
what is so powerfull about other software... just want to know not picking a fight
djcerla 6:00 PM - 6 February, 2010
There are videos on youtube that show what is my idea of "powerful software", better than one million words.
Dj Fitty 6:03 PM - 6 February, 2010
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what is so powerfull about other software... just want to know not picking a fight

I never mentioned another software! I dont plan on leaving Itch because there is no options at the moment that would i use with the vci.
Dj Fitty 6:05 PM - 6 February, 2010
I said I would not recommend itch to someone wanting effects or sampler,
Dj Fitty 6:07 PM - 6 February, 2010
do I love itch to the point where someone saying something bad about it upsets me? NO
diezdiaz 6:07 PM - 6 February, 2010
I don't understand this loyalism to itch. Has no one made that connection that again - any new features unless they're offline features - WILL require additional purchases of exclusive controllers. That isn't for the purpose of stability, a potentiometer that sends a cc is just the same as any other, so why should the consumer be forced to pay 200 dollars to unlock a feature like fx, when fx comes standard in every other competitor. That's not for stability that's just taking advantage of consumer ignorance.
If it isn't an attempt to fleece the ignorant public then why can't we have the option of using with ssl?

Its a good business manuever in that I am sure these practices net huge profit margins, but me personally as a consumer feel that it is condescending and exploitive. If its genuinely about covering the cost of software development then one should have the option of just buying the fucking license and using what you want with it. If its about having an entry to pro level controller that requires no setup - how about giving us the option to use it with ssl? If its about midi drivers from various ports fucking things up - just make a midi hub with drivers designed to be stable with your software. I don't like having my options stripped away under a false pretense

You dipshits on this forum keep talking about how the bridge and 2.0 will be completely different. You don't even fucking know, you're just talking out of your ass its not out and a firm features list hasn't even been produced. And stop talking down to strangers abilities just because they're comparing products on a product forum

But I'm done stating my piece, you stupid loyal apes will only continously chorus the same bullshit I'm just hoping someone at serato is listening to the criticism and I don't end up feeling like another pissed off customer left holding the bill on a disappointment
kraal 6:09 PM - 6 February, 2010
well it doesnt have a sampler so of course you won't...... i am getting confused you are saying it is basic but cant tell me what is so 1988 and non 2010 about it??? i am not starting crap just seems there is a lot of random complaining just cause complaining is cool going on here
kraal 6:13 PM - 6 February, 2010
diezdiaz --- i can validate you point but you see the model of ITCH was made for people like me. so you can call me all the names you want. The ppoint is i would buy gear anyways. a sampler and effects controller a touch sesitive platter controller. why not stick with a package that all works with the same engine under the hood ?
Dj Fitty 6:18 PM - 6 February, 2010
kraal c'mon man that was a follow up statement I posted about one of my comments stating that they can do the echoes and flanger effects just like they do on turntables. Its basic feature wise compared to whats on the market at the moment.
kraal 6:19 PM - 6 February, 2010
dj fitty that is why i stated i am getting confused before i stated that
diezdiaz 6:20 PM - 6 February, 2010
Of course I'm going to call you names, you've responded to critiques of itch and the ns7 like they're ignorant assholes for feeling disappointed with the lack of options
Dj Fitty 6:21 PM - 6 February, 2010
diezdiaz +1
Dj Fitty 6:25 PM - 6 February, 2010
no offense take'n about any of you all's statements because at the end of day we are still djs no matter what we choose to use.
kraal 6:28 PM - 6 February, 2010
if you actually read my post i have just said that there are better ways to file critics .... i dont think anyone even notice that i have posted many feature request myself.....
Dj Fitty 6:42 PM - 6 February, 2010
diezdiaz I have to agree Serato is an equipment selling company because they dont sell their dj software. So we can expect no new major features that will be free without buying some type of equipment ever! I would rather pay for updates rather than worrying about when my equipment will be outdated because of a new features. But it seems most users here are ok with it so they have no reason to change.
djcerla 6:46 PM - 6 February, 2010
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you stupid loyal apes will only continously chorus the same bullshit


@ diezdiaz

Looks like you haven't done your homework, and choose the wrong product for your needs; not feeling dumb enough you come here offending the happy campers in open violation of rule #1 that you have accepted (be nice to others).

Who qualifies here as stupid?
spazz 7:12 PM - 6 February, 2010
It really amazes me how one or even several individuals get so upset because others don't want to except their logic. So we get relegated to name calling like we're still in elementary school. Companies make products to make profit. Period. If you don't care for their ethics but somewhat like what they are producing, well, I'm sorry but that's your conundrum. You can't force your thinking and opinions on others and get mad when someone has a counter-argument.
czar 7:17 PM - 6 February, 2010
Watchwww.youtube.com

another video after watching Kraals. =)
diezdiaz 7:22 PM - 6 February, 2010
Ah cerla, there goes that chorus again with the same lines "shoulda done your homework"


I like my ns7 but the way I feel about seratos business tactics can only be related with a chauvenistic analogy. I feel like serato and the ns7 is like a really hot funny woman that you start seeing and things are going great; and when you start fooling around with her, she stops you from going all the way but gives you a good handie or head instead; and you're seeing her for a bit and you're like "damn she is hot... I can't wait till she let's go all the way" - now its been a few months and you're getting antsy and she drops on you "I'm waiting for marraige" and starts talking some fundamentalist philosophy you don't give 2 shits about, and you're just left thinking well I ain't trying to get married I'm just trying to have fun. You want it to work but the only way forward is if someone makes a big compromise. You feel teased and pissed off by getting a taste of what could have been but will never be.


I'm just trying to have fun, I don't want to be bound to serato specific gear made only by numark.
Oh and the "homework" response is really not applicable, show me one line in any of seratos product literature that says "hey if you buy this controller you're stuck only being able to use it on itch". Not one review I read mentioned anything to that effect
kraal 7:33 PM - 6 February, 2010
Quote:

, show me one line in any of seratos product literature that says "hey if you buy this controller you're stuck only being able to use it on itch". Not one review I read mentioned anything to that effect

the ALL started with the words 'dedicated ITCH controller'
'Serato ITCH is an integrated software and hardware system, designed to give music selectors and DJs new kinds of control. Serato and ITCH partners have made award winning DJ systems that operate without CD players or turntables.

Using the ITCH software you can DJ music on your computer with accurate control from a range of purpose built ITCH hardware.'

'Serato has agreements with respected manufacturers to deliver complete ITCH systems that are quality controlled to deliver the finest performance possible. ITCH partners work closely with Serato to build hardware from the ground up that is optimized for performance with ITCH.'

'There are a variety of ITCH controllers designed in conjunction with the worlds leading DJ brands. Each manufacturer has co-engineered their ITCH hardware with Serato to embrace the needs of the many styles of DJing being performed today. '

'he VCI-300 is a dedicated USB controller for the included Serato ITCH DJ software'

'Because it was designed for ITCH, NS7 setup time is the bare minimum. No tweaking, no mapping; just plug and perform.'


plus all the q&a's on the promovideos
diezdiaz 7:56 PM - 6 February, 2010
The apc40 is a "dedicated ableton" you can still use its midi with any program and still make use of feature like the lit up leds, so when one reads dedicated it usually doesn't mean exclusive when it is simple midi.

I like my ns7 and I like itch, but these are criticisms I feel need to be addressed if I am to remain a serato customer/user. These are criticisms that can be easily addressed with rewire support and some basic options. Maybe the bridge will resolve these issues maybe they won't, because just like how itch 2.0 doesn't have a firm features list and release date neither does the bridge.
If you don't have the same criticisms good for fucking you, but I do and I think a forum made to discuss the product is the place to do it.

And with that statement I will refer you to last remark I made in my first statement, its all speculation we will have to wait and see, but given the history I doubt serato is going in that direction
kraal 8:12 PM - 6 February, 2010
diezdiaz --- again i am not belittling your opinions but instead of wanting ITCH to open up it's hardware architecture which a lot of people are asking for wouldnt it be better for you to ask for other things to be INCLUDED in the ITCH architecture? I hope you can see what i am getting at
diezdiaz 8:30 PM - 6 February, 2010
Ha I think there's a lot of miscommunication going on here, because my criticism is basically to refer to my chauvenist analogy again - the hardware is hot real hot, but I don't feel like the software goes all the way, it just keeps giving me handies when all I really want to do is tear that shit up with sugar bytes artillery on one channel and deck b being routed out to a sherman filter bank
Dj Ace 9:05 PM - 6 February, 2010
Look its not about what itch doesn't do in my arguments its about the fact that this can be done by other means if its so important...also all I'm saying is that itch controllers are cheap for the professional dj and it seems reasonable for serato to charge for extras like the vfx...a sampler etc
Dj Ace 9:09 PM - 6 February, 2010
mutlitrack recording...etc with bridge and even as is...it is worth every penny...And the goods ARE coming. I KNOW for sure :)
Dj Fitty 9:29 PM - 6 February, 2010
oh yeah it coming alright! hope while your are bending over that you hold open wide so there is no bleeding! LOL couldnt help that one, but having 5 or 6 pieces of equipment for one software is insane. effects, 4 decks, extra deck, video, sampler, ext ext.... just pick which one your gonna use for your set and leave the others at home.
kraal 9:41 PM - 6 February, 2010
lets see the club i dj at has a pioneerVDJ set up. two turn tables an efx500 a rane mixer and a cdj .... whats the problem you are concerned about having more than one piece of equiptment running ONE software. to me i see that as a plus
ldc1129 10:17 PM - 6 February, 2010
I am still just waiting for Windows 7 to be supported........
DJFLEX83 10:34 PM - 6 February, 2010
when is the itch 2.0 coming out thats all i want to know..
ontime1269 10:56 PM - 6 February, 2010
I still don't understand why people don't thoroughly investigate the features & limitations of a product before making such a big money purchase. People can save themselves a lot of time & frustration by making more informed decisions.
YESWEDJ.COM 11:01 PM - 6 February, 2010
Im sick of this forum ... I m out...
Dj Fitty 11:53 PM - 6 February, 2010
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lets see the club i dj at has a pioneerVDJ set up. two turn tables an efx500 a rane mixer and a cdj .... whats the problem you are concerned about having more than one piece of equiptment running ONE software. to me i see that as a plus


I see that as him rocking tha fck'n house! is he using serato?
Kevin Kelly 12:01 AM - 7 February, 2010
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I have created a new discussion: How to optimize Windows Vista for Audio!
Check it out!
www.serato.com


Very cool! What I'd love to see is how to optimize Windows 7 for audio...I've hardly had a blip with running Itch on my older Vista machine...it's my new Wind 7 Toshiba that I've had problems with....ugh!
kraal 12:06 AM - 7 February, 2010
Quote:
Quote:
lets see the club i dj at has a pioneerVDJ set up. two turn tables an efx500 a rane mixer and a cdj .... whats the problem you are concerned about having more than one piece of equiptment running ONE software. to me i see that as a plus


I see that as him rocking tha fck'n house! is he using serato?

yes except for video
Maskrider 10:39 AM - 7 February, 2010
If you bought ITCH and never did your research on buying this product or competing product and then you come here to bash ITCH. You sir is an absolute Idiot.
I1Kirm 11:28 AM - 7 February, 2010
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Ha I think there's a lot of miscommunication going on here, because my criticism is basically to refer to my chauvenist analogy again - the hardware is hot real hot, but I don't feel like the software goes all the way, it just keeps giving me handies when all I really want to do is tear that shit up with sugar bytes artillery on one channel and deck b being routed out to a sherman filter bank


I think you should switch to Traktor. Just sell your NS7/VCI (you will get a really good price, since those sell like hotcakes) and order a VCI 100 SE from djtechtools. Add an APC or launchpad and a couple of months tweaking and you will eventually get what you want.
I personally disagree with those specific requests you made. I don't want rewire support on ITCH nor support for all midi devices. I like the 1 to 1 relationship of the hardware to software. I love the fact that I have an extra controller specifically designed to control ITCH's effects. I like my VCI having 10 (or so) buttons less than a VCI 100 or a Torq or you name it.
I want stability, simplicity, speed and audio quality. That's why I chose ITCH and not Traktor or VDJ. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF ITCH ANYWAYS.
I am not a Serato fanboy. I just want this think to work. I can put all my stuff inside a backpack and be ready to play anything in 10 minutes time. And I can do that knowing my set-up is 100% stable.
So stop bashing Serato and start bashing your self for not choosing the right product. And if you bought your controller to work with another software I can re-assure you that there are alternatives. VDJ works with NS7 and VCI. So does Traktor using djtechtool's midi translation utility. They don't work flawlessly as with ITCH but they DO WORK LIKE ANY OTHER CONTROLLER with those softwares. You see that is the main difference of ITCH, the hardware really works great with the software. It's like playing on a CDJ, that fast and that stable. No other software/hardware combo does that. VCI 300 plays just fine on Tractor, and by this I mean it plays just like VCI 100 does.
You say the hardware is hot, well the main reason you say that is because it works fucking wonderfully and this is because of ITCH. So, either you admit it or not when you say hardware is great you also say ITCH is great. Just try to play NS7 on VDJ and you will eventually understand what I mean; the hardware will still look great but the experience will be disappointing. And don't expect it to get any better. ITCH controllers are more complex than regular midi controllers, Serato knows that and that's why it wants to support only a few of them, so they can make the experience really great. Traktor and VDJ can't spend time to fine tune the performance of every controller out there. They just support midi, and that's it. Fuck, it took VDJ a year and 4 releases to properly support NS7 and the experience is still disappointing comparing to ITCH.
Enough said.
djcerla 11:51 AM - 7 February, 2010
@ I1Kirm

spot on.
Antony Ellis 1:58 PM - 7 February, 2010
Totally agree with that.......ITCH rocks in my opinion, always has done!
nik39 3:05 PM - 7 February, 2010
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You dipshits on this forum keep talking about how the bridge and 2.0 will be completely different. You don't even fucking know, you're just talking out of your ass its not out and a firm features list hasn't even been produced. And stop talking down to strangers abilities just because they're comparing products on a product forum

But I'm done stating my piece, you stupid loyal apes will only continously chorus the same bullshit I'm just hoping someone at serato is listening to the criticism

While I do not agree with every statement from you diezdiaz, I certainly agree that there are quite a few die-hard fans on the forums. Not capable to question Itch and/or Scratch Live.
kraal 3:22 PM - 7 February, 2010
why is it that just because some people are insulted for purchasing software and actually liking what they purchased. And there is a differance in wanting features and bashing and insulting a product.
nik39 3:42 PM - 7 February, 2010
Wow, I didn't know we got that far now - we insult a product. Haha. I didn't know products have feelings ;)
Antony Ellis 6:58 PM - 7 February, 2010
I bet Searto are laughing thier cock off at this! Its pathetic!
akimo 4:48 AM - 8 February, 2010
please tell me what is so wrong with wanting more out of itch one of the good reasons for buying software is that it's easier and possible to change or improve things
I can't be believe that so much potential customers are being turned away can't see that as good business do you guys believe that is what serato wants..............what happens if vdj becomes more stable it is possible they can improve their product would they return if itch gets video ect what reason would they have to want anything from serato
better itch equals more customers, more money for serato and numark
spazz 5:34 AM - 8 February, 2010
Although they make excellent, well supported software, Serato is a small company. With that said, people just need to be patient and let them work their magic at their pace. Itch is still in it's infancy. Good things will come, we all just need to be patient.
I1Kirm 10:36 AM - 8 February, 2010
Nobody said "I don't want any more features". I personally have created and participated in several threads with feature requests. I just don't want to see ITCH become a complex software in terms of functionality. I don't want to have 4 layers of controls or 5 pages of setup preferences and I certainly don't want support for every piece of MIDI out there. I bought ITCH for some reasons and I want it to stay that way.
czar 10:42 AM - 8 February, 2010
kirm no disrespect meant. do u strictly play certain music styles? are u novice? serious question. no disrespect.
czar 10:42 AM - 8 February, 2010
by styles i mean genres sorry..
I1Kirm 10:51 AM - 8 February, 2010
I am pro. I play for 15 years. I'm a venue DJ, mostly clubs and some big bars. Recently I also started doing private parties for extra cash (and I mean good cash since I was able to pay-off my VCI & VFX purchase with just a couple of parties). I'm doing 3-5 gigs per week.
As for music I certainly don't stick to certain music styles. My style varies depending on the venue and the people.
I1Kirm 10:52 AM - 8 February, 2010
PS. No disrespect taken
czar 10:52 AM - 8 February, 2010
Interesting. I hope it's true. =) are u from NYC area?
I1Kirm 10:54 AM - 8 February, 2010
No, I Greek, located in Cyprus for the past 3 &1/2 years. What do you mean by saying "i hope is true?"
czar 11:06 AM - 8 February, 2010
people lying to be cool thats all. =)
I1Kirm 11:09 AM - 8 February, 2010
Lol, I don't have a reason to lie in the same way I don't have a reason to advertise my self in this forum. I'm 31, way past the "I want to be cool" age. What I would like to know though is what made you think I'm a novice? Was my desire for ITCH to remain simple, fast and stable? I thought that for every pro those are the most wanted features...
czar 11:11 AM - 8 February, 2010
I just think that to be fast, stable and even simple, the software doesn't have to be bare bone and lack on features.
czar 11:12 AM - 8 February, 2010
Take SL for example.
czar 11:14 AM - 8 February, 2010
I didn't think ur novice. I was curious that's all. I like knowing why people think the way they think and it can be matched to someone's experience thought not necessary like in your case. right?
I1Kirm 11:14 AM - 8 February, 2010
I never said that. I just commented that with the addition of certain features (such as rewire support, or open MIDIness) the complexity level of ITCH will be much higher, just look at Traktor as an example.
czar 11:15 AM - 8 February, 2010
more complex yes, unstable not necessarily..
I1Kirm 11:16 AM - 8 February, 2010
Well take ITCH add sample and video and you have SL. Both of these are in my "I want too" list and I am convinced that sooner or later they'll be implemented.
czar 11:16 AM - 8 February, 2010
I haven't used Traktor in a while but I bet it must have gotten much better I would hope. Stability wise VDJ was the underdog by my experience and it has made huge leaps forward.. Traktor was good with it's emulation wasn't it? I never got to experience it first hand..
czar 11:18 AM - 8 February, 2010
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Well take ITCH add sample and video and you have SL. Both of these are in my "I want too" list and I am convinced that sooner or later they'll be implemented.


exactly.. I saw someone speak of Rane getting upset at Serato stepping away from them but if it is Serato's choice than it's Serato's choice.. So I don't really know why Itch is taking this long..
czar 11:19 AM - 8 February, 2010
*then
I1Kirm 11:23 AM - 8 February, 2010
I am still mourning for the 300 euros I spend on VDJ. Traktor is good, but too complex for my needs and taste. Anyway, we should stop hijacking this thread
czar 11:27 AM - 8 February, 2010
oh yea. hijacking is wrong. ;)
DJ GaFFle 12:07 PM - 8 February, 2010
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Although they make excellent, well supported software, Serato is a small company. With that said, people just need to be patient and let them work their magic at their pace. Itch is still in it's infancy. Good things will come, we all just need to be patient.

Infancy..?

You act like this product just came out last month. It was introduced in 2008 and seemed like it took forever to be released.

Quote:
I just don't want to see ITCH become a complex software in terms of functionality. I don't want to have 4 layers of controls or 5 pages of setup preferences and I certainly don't want support for every piece of MIDI out there.

I concur but they should have at least been on their FX development game plan (if not from the very beginning). iTCH features are slow to develop and it seems like for every feature added, there are a ton of bugs. I'd be happy just seeing the FX solid, a reworking of the GUI layout (like SSL's) and a few [sample] cues integrated (like SSL).
Antony Ellis 12:46 PM - 8 February, 2010
Go and buy another fucking product then if you dont like it or are not happy!

Sell your VCI or NS7 and stop whining!!!
DJ GaFFle 2:28 PM - 8 February, 2010
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Go and buy another fucking product then if you dont like it or are not happy!

Sell your VCI or NS7 and stop whining!!!

This is a forum for help, chats and anything else that goes along with discussions (including complaints/whining). Some people are discontent with the speed at which releases/fixes/features are made and they're vocalizing it.

Create a "fanboy / I'mma lamer" thread if it suits you better since you don't like this one...
djrefresh2 3:46 PM - 8 February, 2010
"Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends..."
kraal 5:52 PM - 8 February, 2010
i think a lot of people are getting things confused. no one is saying not to ask for features... the main arguement is watch how you ask for features. I mean a lot of people are saying ITCH sucks, VCI-300 is crap but never actually saying anything about feature request. Those are the post i am addressing as not being productive
Dj Ace 8:48 PM - 8 February, 2010
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i think a lot of people are getting things confused. no one is saying not to ask for features... the main arguement is watch how you ask for features. I mean a lot of people are saying ITCH sucks, VCI-300 is crap but never actually saying anything about feature request. Those are the post i am addressing as not being productive


well said...we are all anxious for new upgrades/fixes but having an attitude about it helps no one. Actually I am really anxious for the ableton live plugin (for SSL and Itch)...and the rane ttm 68...also video would be nice for itch as well

no need to bash and compare other products if they already suit your needs...either wait like the rest of us or visit your nearest pro audio store
Dj Ace 8:49 PM - 8 February, 2010
just be willing to "pay the price" so to speak
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 1:47 AM - 9 February, 2010
Quote:
You dipshits on this forum...You don't even fucking know, you're just talking out of your ass ...you stupid loyal apes


Hi diezdiaz.

While we appreciate open discourse, you are breaching our forum rules here by insulting users. Please re-read the Forum Rules: www.serato.com

Please refrain from personal attacks in the future.


As for this discussion. Rest assured Serato has a lot of cool (free) features that we will be providing ALL ITCH users. We don't take our customers for granted, and want to continue to offer free software updates that will enhance your DJing experience.

You guys are the people that have made ITCH a great product family, and we will make sure that we are loyal to you just as you are loyal to us.

:D
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 1:49 AM - 9 February, 2010
PS. As Kraal points out, there are productive and un-productive ways for feature requests. The best way is to search for other feature requests, and put your (concise) support for the said feature in that thread, rather than creating millions of requests that make us run around like ants in a sugar factory reading 500+ posts in a thread.
Maskrider 7:02 AM - 9 February, 2010
I must admit that some of the forum members don't know where to put there request and when to shut up.

Seriously lately there is a bunch of Djs here that whine like there is no tomorrow. When they saw SL 2.0

Sometimes I think like if the product is not yet ready don't let it out in the open.

It causes a lot of inquiries to the point that it's getting annoying.
czar 7:06 AM - 9 February, 2010
Mask with all due respect. RELAX BUDDY.
Maskrider 8:00 AM - 9 February, 2010
I'm cool.....Sometimes letting it out can make a big difference........lol
Dj Ace 8:03 AM - 9 February, 2010
Thread locked
czar 8:07 AM - 9 February, 2010
cool Ace. ahhahahahahahhaha
DJ Prashant 9:18 AM - 9 February, 2010
Read through a lot of other crap but could not get the answer to this question...

so there is a chance vci-300 might be able to use 4 decks on ITCH 2.0? I was going to order xone:dx tomorrow...

I love my vci-300, Jan 29 and 30th I played for 13 hours (6.5 hrs each night) at Kemia Bar in NYC. Not even once did the software-hardware crap out, not even for a min did anyone stop dancing. Itch does what's its made to do. The question is, are you using it the right way?
czar 9:27 AM - 9 February, 2010
prash please be patient NO ONE knows what will be happening so STOP asking the same question. WE all know the same thing you know.

The xone has the advantage of having extra hardware to control stuff so it will be better for the purpose regardless if the VCI can control 4 decks or not..

THANKS! just cut it out for the time being.

btw; if you read thru *crap* you're chances are slim you will ever find the information your looking for. Now if you read around *threads* you might have a chance to know what I just told you above.
DJ Prashant 9:33 AM - 9 February, 2010
This question is more for those who dont work for serato but seem to know a lot (u know who u r) :)

I agree on xone advantages but there are some neat things about VCI too so 4 decks is really the main reason for my purchase.
spazz 2:39 PM - 9 February, 2010
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I must admit that some of the forum members don't know where to put there request and when to shut up.

Seriously lately there is a bunch of Djs here that whine like there is no tomorrow. When they saw SL 2.0

Sometimes I think like if the product is not yet ready don't let it out in the open.

It causes a lot of inquiries to the point that it's getting annoying.


I totally agree with you Maskrider. Although the Serato team are always courteous and professional, I know it's gotta be a little frustrating for them. You can pretty much tell that when 2.0 comes out, the whiners will be out in full force complaining it's not enough.
kraal 3:50 PM - 9 February, 2010
Quote:
This question is more for those who dont work for serato but seem to know a lot (u know who u r) :)

I agree on xone advantages but there are some neat things about VCI too so 4 decks is really the main reason for my purchase.

my word on this is wait... wait for 2.0 and wait for the xone to ship
DJ.AJ 3:10 AM - 10 February, 2010
It's very clear what serato is doing. no one controller will be likely to do everything even if the "ability" is in the software. you buy the controller you want based on how you DJ not how you would DJ if u could do this, that and the other. If thats the case i want serato to make a tablet dj controller - no spinning platers or laptop need. hmm stanton came close.
Christophlex 2:19 PM - 10 February, 2010
When is Itch 2.0 coming out? What is the delay? I'm starting to think that it's gonna come out the same day as the Dr. Dre Detox Album........LOL
nik39 2:30 PM - 10 February, 2010
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I'm starting to think that it's gonna come out the same day as the Dr. Dre Detox Album

Hahaha :)
kraal 3:12 PM - 10 February, 2010
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When is Itch 2.0 coming out? What is the delay? I'm starting to think that it's gonna come out the same day as the Dr. Dre Detox Album........LOL

classic
Cid K 3:22 PM - 10 February, 2010
Itch 2.0 will come early 2011.
Maskrider 5:46 PM - 10 February, 2010
As soon as they ship the Xone:Dx.
kraal 5:53 PM - 10 February, 2010
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As soon as they ship the Xone:Dx.

i have a feeling the xone will come out with 1.8.97 and still no 2.0 :)
Dj Kabrini Greens 6:14 PM - 10 February, 2010
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...you stupid loyal apes

That's me to a T
Dj Kabrini Greens 6:15 PM - 10 February, 2010
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When is Itch 2.0 coming out? What is the delay? I'm starting to think that it's gonna come out the same day as Duke Nukem Forver........LOL
YESWEDJ.COM 9:27 PM - 10 February, 2010
ok Finally got some news around the Itch 2.0


Coming out in a few days but you will now have to buy the software.....?

By the way this was the nightmare that I had last night....
kraal 9:39 PM - 10 February, 2010
i thought you left the forums :)

just so everyone knows the statement by yeswedj.com is false
MusicDan 9:46 PM - 10 February, 2010
I think that was made clear by the last line.
Quote:


By the way this was the nightmare that I had last night....
kraal 9:47 PM - 10 February, 2010
just wait ........
nik39 9:57 PM - 10 February, 2010
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I think that was made clear by the last line.
Quote:


By the way this was the nightmare that I had last night....

And he added a question mark at the end, which doesn't even make it a statement technically.
kraal 10:05 PM - 10 February, 2010
nik39 so now you nolonger stand behind the idea of stating 'fact' or 'opinion' :)
nik39 10:12 PM - 10 February, 2010
Why would I change my mind?

As MusicDan has already explained, it is quite clear that this was not a fact because

a. he said it was a dream
b. there is a question mark at the end of the sentence, which makes it clearly not a statement or fact.
kraal 10:16 PM - 10 February, 2010
there will not be effects without an effects controller in serato ITCH
when i puchased my vci-300 that was a nightmare i had.

all figures of speak which leads to interpretation .....
nik39 10:31 PM - 10 February, 2010
kraal, stop wasting my time with *senseless* nitpicking. Read again what the person has posted.

If you got a point - cool. But you should wait until you really have a point. :)
wadup 10:33 PM - 10 February, 2010
+1
kraal 11:06 PM - 10 February, 2010
ha you guys are so up tight and take things way to serious
nik39 11:08 PM - 10 February, 2010
Talking about backpeddling, huh? Send me a PM whenever you achieved being funny.

;)

And btw... that is why we add winks and smileys.
kraal 2:52 AM - 11 February, 2010
for those paying attention the public beta of SSL2.0 is out.....

so much for a joint launch
wadup 3:15 AM - 11 February, 2010
Damn i hope ours is not too far away from getting release... also i would just like to know if it's even in private testing?
kraal 3:25 AM - 11 February, 2010
1.5 isnt even finalized ;(
wadup 3:30 AM - 11 February, 2010
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1.5 isnt even finalized ;(



I was just thinking the same thing after i posted my comment. 1.5 rc1 is very stable, maybe it's the support for window 7 and snow leopard is holding it back from going final. We might have to wait another month then. not good. might have to even wait until the 2quarter....
kraal 3:37 AM - 11 February, 2010
i am just hoping 1.5 is the base and once it works 2.0 is just a layer tossed over top
yeah those are technical terms :)
DJ Prashant 3:56 AM - 11 February, 2010
I think xone:dx ships with v1.6
kraal 3:58 AM - 11 February, 2010
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I think xone:dx ships with v1.6

which makes since it has features that us mortal users wont need so it comes with 1.6 like the vfx-1 shipped with 1.3
orvekio 4:15 AM - 11 February, 2010
What the heck is going on?

Where am I...?

Is this the twisted result of boredom and technological anticipation?

Signs point to yes...

=P
DJ.AJ 6:29 AM - 11 February, 2010
1.5 wiil be the base
czar 7:38 AM - 11 February, 2010
the base of a lot of software are the older versions.. =D
rorz007 11:05 AM - 11 February, 2010
SSL V. 2.0.0 Public Beta has arrived!

Will ITCH follow?

The epic story continues......
kraal 5:50 PM - 11 February, 2010
of course it will follow since it isnt out before :)
czar 7:04 PM - 11 February, 2010
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of course it will follow since it isnt out before :)


LOL!
Dj Beware 8:04 PM - 11 February, 2010
You all probably already know but Scratch live is now in Public Beta serato.com
rorz007 8:14 PM - 11 February, 2010
I must commend you Kraal, not only on spotting the obvious, but also being compulsed to go to the effort of responding to my post.

Terrific stuff. Well done you! Give yourself a high five.!!

Dj Beware - Exactly!! Does this mean ITCH 2 is just round the corner?

peace out

rorz007
KLH 8:25 PM - 11 February, 2010
Pretty thick, rorz007, pretty thick. I like it.

-KLH
kraal 9:04 PM - 11 February, 2010
I must commend you rorz007, not only on spotting the obvious, but also being compulsed to go to the effort of responding to my post.

but as you can see if you read the time line right around the corner is going to be 1.5 finalized then seems there will atleast be a 1.6 for the xone controller.
Dj Beware 9:40 PM - 11 February, 2010
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You all probably already know but Scratch live is now in Public Beta serato.com


Sorry for the double post, somehow I didn't see this was already posted by rorz007
Serato
Pene 10:04 PM - 11 February, 2010
Quote:
for those paying attention the public beta of SSL2.0 is out.....

so much for a joint launch

it doesn't make a lot of sense for us to duplicate our efforts and be fixing the same bugs in both programs at once - let's let the ssl team work out all the bugs and then we'll have itch 2.0 ;)
kraal 10:19 PM - 11 February, 2010
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it doesn't make a lot of sense for us to duplicate our efforts and be fixing the same bugs in both programs at once - let's let the ssl team work out all the bugs and then we'll have itch 2.0 ;)

classic
djcerla 10:19 PM - 11 February, 2010
Why not debug at double speed then, adding the excellent ITCH beta testers? :)
kraal 10:29 PM - 11 February, 2010
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Why not debug at double speed then, adding the excellent ITCH beta testers? :)

even more classic :)
Dj Fitty 1:26 AM - 12 February, 2010
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for those paying attention the public beta of SSL2.0 is out.....

so much for a joint launch

it doesn't make a lot of sense for us to duplicate our efforts and be fixing the same bugs in both programs at once - let's let the ssl team work out all the bugs and then we'll have itch 2.0 ;)



how would they have the same bugs when they are two different programs
KLH 1:34 AM - 12 February, 2010
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how would they have the same bugs when they are two different programs

Shared reusable code - the holy grail of software development. ITCH and SSL share a lot of similar code in VisualBasic - like the spinning platter control. Ok. I should stop joking. Apparently, I'm cracking programming jokes to people who don't program.

Congratulations to Serato for releasing the SSL 2 Public Beta. That was no small feat, I'm sure. I'm sure that some of the programmers are JUST NOW coming down from their soda/sugar/caffeine high.

-KLH
czar 2:28 AM - 12 February, 2010
how would that b joking? i find it highly possible and accurate to say.

i get it, the spinning platter if u think thats the joke..
czar 2:29 AM - 12 February, 2010
I am very happy!!!!
MusicDan 2:30 AM - 12 February, 2010
I think he was talking about Visual Basic and how some here wouldn't get it.
Dj Ace 3:15 AM - 12 February, 2010
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how would they have the same bugs when they are two different programs

Shared reusable code - the holy grail of software development. ITCH and SSL share a lot of similar code in VisualBasic - like the spinning platter control. Ok. I should stop joking. Apparently, I'm cracking programming jokes to people who don't program.

Congratulations to Serato for releasing the SSL 2 Public Beta. That was no small feat, I'm sure. I'm sure that some of the programmers are JUST NOW coming down from their soda/sugar/caffeine high.

-KLH


C and C++
YESWEDJ.COM 3:17 AM - 12 February, 2010
That should be a good topic?

Can I map My ns7 with Serato Scratch Live Program?
kraal 3:29 AM - 12 February, 2010
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Can I map My ns7 with Serato Scratch Live Program?

no SSL has no internal mixing and the NS& relys on it
YESWEDJ.COM 3:38 AM - 12 February, 2010
Darn it,

What a great combo that could have been...
Dj Fitty 1:56 PM - 12 February, 2010
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Can I map My ns7 with Serato Scratch Live Program?

no SSL has no internal mixing and the NS& relys on it


thats concept sounds so simple that it now seems that making itch was a waste of time, but then again I know nothing about programming, or maybe they felt the hardcore ssl users would be offended by adding controllers to ssl.
The Reverand 2:04 PM - 12 February, 2010
Can we got Pong mode like in SSL 2?
I love pong.

www.djtechtools.com(djtechtools.com)
Maskrider 4:13 PM - 12 February, 2010
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Can I map My ns7 with Serato Scratch Live Program?

no SSL has no internal mixing and the NS& relys on it


thats concept sounds so simple that it now seems that making itch was a waste of time, but then again I know nothing about programming, or maybe they felt the hardcore ssl users would be offended by adding controllers to ssl.


It is possible if they wanted to but they already established this as two different products. I'm not a programmer either.
kraal 5:45 PM - 12 February, 2010
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thats concept sounds so simple that it now seems that making itch was a waste of time, but then again I know nothing about programming, or maybe they felt the hardcore ssl users would be offended by adding controllers to ssl.

it was not a waste cause i for one am someone who never touched SSL if it were not for the vci-300 i would still be using virtualDJ. Granted i have used SSL now that i got ITCH
DJ.AJ 7:55 PM - 12 February, 2010
it is quite possible to bridge the 2 into one program but the effort to do it would cost too much since there are so many features that 1 has that the other doesn't - im sure they both share the same core. and i am a programmer.
I1Kirm 8:35 PM - 12 February, 2010
I have to disagree with DJ AJ. As I have posted in another thread, the only reason Serato is keeping ITCH and SSL separate is their business model. The effort to bridge the two softwares would be substantial but is certainly quite doable. BTW I am a programmer too.
spazz 9:29 PM - 12 February, 2010
I agree with both of you guys. Just so u know, I'm a programmer, network admin, and pc tech and do software sales.



...oh and got a side gig as a DJ mime. ;-)
I1Kirm 9:36 PM - 12 February, 2010
Lol. Seems like the DJ-Programmer combo is quite popular among ITCH users.
The Reverand 11:30 PM - 12 February, 2010
And here I was thinking I was the only DJ programmer here, go figure.
Actually I would think it has less to do with Serato's business model than it does Ranes business model. Nearly exclusive hardware sales for the most popular digital conversion platform sure doesn't hurt their bottom line.

Besides that I think keeping them separate had more to do with vision. Serato I am sure believed, and may still, that the 2 classes of users had different needs and as such needed different features. From what I read in these forums that doesn't seem to be the case besides a few differences. Also I would point out Serato is a ballbuster for stability and performance. If you want to see what too many features in one package can do I would suggest obtaining a copy of Traktor Pro. Traktor Pro tries to be everything to everyone, and it suffers for it. It' modular interface is terrible, it's audio engine sounds like garbage, even on NI's own hardware, and it's endless see of configuration options actually hurts it's usability instead of helping it.
I1Kirm 12:09 AM - 13 February, 2010
I agree with you. If you're bored have a read here www.serato.com
The Reverand 12:53 AM - 13 February, 2010
You sure did hit the nail on the head there. But I think there is something else at work here besides the business model. I think ultimately having 2 different softwares is going to allow both to grow organically, and not be tied to the possibilities of one or the other.
YESWEDJ.COM 3:11 AM - 13 February, 2010
I really do not care about no one organic's growth. I care about having the features and benefits that I pay for...I hope Itch 2.0 comes out asap.... They seem to be more worried about realeasing their V7 February 26th than talking about Itch and the upgrades that it needs in order for it to perform.
MusicDan 3:12 AM - 13 February, 2010
YESWEDJ I sent you a PM.
DJ.AJ 3:29 AM - 13 February, 2010
i never said it wasn't doable - clear it is just not feasable.
DJ.AJ 3:30 AM - 13 February, 2010
clearly it is.

just not feaseable (for those who appreciate punctuation)
spazz 5:28 AM - 13 February, 2010
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.... They seem to be more worried about realeasing their V7 February 26th than talking about Itch and the upgrades that it needs in order for it to perform.

Itch 2.0 is Serato's product, not Numarks. You're mixing up companies.
YESWEDJ.COM 12:40 PM - 13 February, 2010
I am not mixing up companies,

I know Numark is one company
and Itch Serato is another company....

What I meant to say was that Numark seem to be more worried about releasing their V7 when they should be pushing Serato to realease a more stable and user friendly Itch...

thanks,
Yeswedj Team
I1Kirm 3:12 PM - 13 February, 2010
Errr, while every software can get better I strongly believe ITCH is on top of everything else out there when it comes to stability and user-friendliness.
djcerla 3:29 PM - 13 February, 2010
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I strongly believe ITCH is on top of everything else out there when it comes to stability and user-friendliness.
BadBoyChubs 3:53 PM - 13 February, 2010
Itch beta (to ME) is more stable than some other programs that are final and, the only problem i had with itch was 1.1 with analyzing but other than that no problems.

I used other dj programs and they crashed on me in gigs.
Itch betas that i used are stable for me. Every saturday i play atleast 5 hours and never had a problem.

It would be nice to have a version that serato has called final but the release candidate works jus as good.

P.S i still hoping that serato includes another pitch range in 2.0,
zaguama 4:02 PM - 13 February, 2010
ITCH has become really stable. When was the last time you guys saw an official bug for at least 1.5 RC2?, i think they've pretty much covered a bunch of issues and 2.0 looks very promising if its based on 1.5, stability wise. Hope they can now focus more on features, improve fx sound and so on.
BadBoyChubs 5:49 PM - 13 February, 2010
compare to serato SSL 2.0 , i was over in that threads wow, alot of issues, i aint read but i see they have issues still
Dj Ace 6:10 PM - 13 February, 2010
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I really do not care about no one organic's growth. I care about having the features and benefits that I pay for...I hope Itch 2.0 comes out asap.... They seem to be more worried about realeasing their V7 February 26th than talking about Itch and the upgrades that it needs in order for it to perform.


You already got all the "benefits they promised at version 1.5...any thing else is a bonus
If you want other features there are other DVS's availiable ;)
Dj Ace 6:11 PM - 13 February, 2010
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compare to serato SSL 2.0 , i was over in that threads wow, alot of issues, i aint read but i see they have issues still


Duh...its still in beta! Wants it becomes final it wont have those "bugs" Coz that is what Serato does best "stablility"
YESWEDJ.COM 6:22 PM - 13 February, 2010
AGAIN,

I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON NOT SATISFIED WITH 1.5 BETA.. BPM NOT THERE AND IT CRASHES EVERY OTHER TIME....
czar 6:27 PM - 13 February, 2010
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AGAIN,

I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON NOT SATISFIED WITH 1.5 BETA.. BPM NOT THERE AND IT CRASHES EVERY OTHER TIME....


I don't think it crashes. But then again my friend's VDJ doesn't crash ever also so..
Dj Ace 6:31 PM - 13 February, 2010
maybe its your laptop? if you have a mac take it to the apple store or just reformat it..the reason is that sometimes when you do the mac updates it messes up the usb drivers! It happened to me when i first upgraded to snow leapard? so just re-install mac osx from the disk then upgrade to the current version. Of course back up everthing WITHOUT using time machine.
Dj Ace 6:33 PM - 13 February, 2010
As far as the BPM not being there...where do you get your music files and how do add the BPM? If you use Itch to add them for you and its not showing up it could be ur files...also do a test download a file or files from www.whitelabel.net and see it it crashes with these also?
Dj Ace 6:35 PM - 13 February, 2010
sorry forgot to ask...does 1.1 final work ok tho? and are you using he lasted version?
Zato 7:41 PM - 13 February, 2010
Is it possible to add drops or samples using Itch w/VCI-300?
czar 7:42 PM - 13 February, 2010
sure just drop it really hard against the floor. Once u get the samples ur ready to go..
czar 7:43 PM - 13 February, 2010
samples of ur vci broken into pieces that is.
kraal 8:16 PM - 13 February, 2010
simple ways is to put them in a crate and load them as neede4d on the non playing deck
Zato 8:50 PM - 13 February, 2010
Yeah, I guess that's the only way at this point....I was hoping there would be some kind of feature I was missing. Hopefully the new version can add something like this, that way we don't have to waste a playing deck with a 2-3 sec drop.
kraal 8:53 PM - 13 February, 2010
the next thing will be thebridge if you have ableton live 8

or you can get kue-it
Dj Fitty 10:16 PM - 13 February, 2010
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I really do not care about no one organic's growth. I care about having the features and benefits that I pay for...I hope Itch 2.0 comes out asap.... They seem to be more worried about realeasing their V7 February 26th than talking about Itch and the upgrades that it needs in order for it to perform.


You already got all the "benefits they promised at version 1.5...any thing else is a bonus
If you want other features there are other DVS's availiable ;)


I didnt purchase itch, I bought into the vci-300 concept. I dont care what software works with it, at the moment Itch is the only one, Itch is rock solid and boring! I'm not a loyal customer to any DVS and I own Traktor, Torq, Virtual and Itch. these DVS are just tools to my trade. So I just dont understand why dj's on this forum get offended about someone not liking this DVS. We bought this product and unless you are getting some type of an endorsement deal, the dvs didnt buy you! One thing that I have learned is that I will never buy into a closed system like this unless they have everything that I want at the time I purchase it.
kraal 10:23 PM - 13 February, 2010
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I will never buy into a closed system like this unless they have everything that I want at the time I purchase it.


that is the exact point a lot of us are saying about all the complaining. When your purchased ITCH and your controller you knew what i could an COULD NOT due at time of purchase. If it was not what you needed then why did you spend so much money of something that would not do what you want ?
Dj Fitty 10:32 PM - 13 February, 2010
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I will never buy into a closed system like this unless they have everything that I want at the time I purchase it.


that is the exact point a lot of us are saying about all the complaining. When your purchased ITCH and your controller you knew what i could an COULD NOT due at time of purchase. If it was not what you needed then why did you spend so much money of something that would not do what you want ?


got it!
YESWEDJ.COM 12:12 AM - 14 February, 2010
Once Again,

Itch is so far behind, I understand it is stable on that....

At the end of the day I also into the Idea of the NS7 and I do not care about ITCH at this point.
Antony Ellis 12:13 AM - 14 February, 2010
Go and use something else then if you dont care.......

Not a lot more to say on here for you as this is an ITCH forum.
YESWEDJ.COM 12:18 AM - 14 February, 2010
Too Bad Antony and whoever else will have to deal with me over here for some good amount of time....
YESWEDJ.COM 12:19 AM - 14 February, 2010
LOL////

SInce I was born Naked
Antony Ellis 12:21 AM - 14 February, 2010
well whats the point? You just said yourself that you "dont care about itch at this point"

you might as well go and do something else and use some other software instead of whining on here...LOL////
YESWEDJ.COM 12:23 AM - 14 February, 2010
Well get used to the Whining or go to another site...
Because trust me when I tell you that I am not the only one Whining over here...
YESWEDJ.COM 12:26 AM - 14 February, 2010
At this point you are right,

I have no choice but be around since my ns7 only works with ITCH... That does not mean that I care about ITCH... I just have no other choice....
I am only using the NS7+ITCH+NSFX as a back up at this point any way which works me up based on the money spend. I am still preety hooked to SSL and so on... I am going to keep it 100%...
Antony Ellis 12:26 AM - 14 February, 2010
Well i can only say that i dont get any problems with ITCH crashing or BPM issues....maybe its down to your pc/mac and the tunes your aquiring?
BadBoyChubs 12:27 AM - 14 February, 2010
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compare to serato SSL 2.0 , i was over in that threads wow, alot of issues, i aint read but i see they have issues still


Duh...its still in beta! Wants it becomes final it wont have those "bugs" Coz that is what Serato does best "stablility"


I was speaking to zaguama , i kno it is beta. i was comparing the bugs, we have but not so much. that was a statement. i wish all the best with their public beta.
kraal 12:33 AM - 14 February, 2010
yeswedj.com you are really entertaining...how many more ways can you point out that you wasted money on something you did not really want to buy?
BadBoyChubs 12:34 AM - 14 February, 2010
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Well i can only say that i dont get any problems with ITCH crashing or BPM issues....maybe its down to your pc/mac and the tunes your aquiring?


careful u might start a mac vs pc debate. lolol

I never had problem like what some are reporting. Itch never crash on my yet,
Antony Ellis 12:36 AM - 14 February, 2010
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yeswedj.com you are really entertaining...how many more ways can you point out that you wasted money on something you did not really want to buy?


but he's till here, going on about ITCH that he doesn't care about!
YESWEDJ.COM 12:39 AM - 14 February, 2010
FYI I do not use PC... I use a Powerfull Mac Pro... With the way built in Features...

Well, Let me Re Phase this, I do not have any problems while DJing since my computer never crashes... I am having problems on the back end. When I am trying to Analyze my 145k song all coming mostly from Legal Sources and Radio Promo Only Tracks... Every-time I hit it crashes after analyzing a few songs... I do not have bad songs because it w Analyses ill be the case with SSL... I never had any issues with SSL when it comes to analysing and so on... On the BPM end, I have played two songs with the same bpm and one runs than the other... again not with SSL....


I mostly annoyed with The creates being deleted every so often, and the BPM is not very accurate. Very difficult to mix remixes and so on...
kraal 12:39 AM - 14 February, 2010
but a personal bussiness note to yeswedj.com : if i we looking for a dj first thing i would do is a quick google search and guess what shows up in google. countless post about you complaining about owning equiptment that doesn't work. I would think more and post a little less randomly. just a word of advice
YESWEDJ.COM 12:39 AM - 14 February, 2010
By the way Anthony loves the attention so keep making me more famous....

LOL....
YESWEDJ.COM 12:41 AM - 14 February, 2010
90% of our business is referral anyways... But Thanks..
Antony Ellis 12:57 AM - 14 February, 2010
whatever....not wasting my energy feeding you anymore...LOL......
Maskrider 1:09 AM - 14 February, 2010
lol....

What a Troll.
Dj Ace 2:45 AM - 14 February, 2010
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FYI I do not use PC... I use a Powerfull Mac Pro... With the way built in Features...

Well, Let me Re Phase this, I do not have any problems while DJing since my computer never crashes... I am having problems on the back end. When I am trying to Analyze my 145k song all coming mostly from Legal Sources and Radio Promo Only Tracks... Every-time I hit it crashes after analyzing a few songs... I do not have bad songs because it w Analyses ill be the case with SSL... I never had any issues with SSL when it comes to analysing and so on... On the BPM end, I have played two songs with the same bpm and one runs than the other... again not with SSL....


LOL

just build them in SSL and they will work in itch ;)


I mostly annoyed with The creates being deleted every so often, and the BPM is not very accurate. Very difficult to mix remixes and so on...
czar 4:19 AM - 14 February, 2010
hahahahahA!
djcerla 6:28 AM - 14 February, 2010
Just a few notes.

1- ITCH is NOT a DVS.
2- ITCH BPM detection is now accurate to 2nd decimal, at least on 4/4 dance music
3- sounds like yeswedj is messing things up, trying to duplicate an existing SSL library. Just use the library instead, it's compatible. As usual, much ranting and poor research.
I1Kirm 8:15 AM - 14 February, 2010
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sounds like yeswedj is messing things up, trying to duplicate an existing SSL library. Just use the library instead, it's compatible
czar 12:22 PM - 14 February, 2010
dvs in my opinion could be the NS7... under my standards the NS7 is digital it has vinyl and it is a system. but then again thats my opinion. =D lol
YESWEDJ.COM 1:52 PM - 14 February, 2010
ok,

I did not know I can use the same library instead....
YESWEDJ.COM 1:52 PM - 14 February, 2010
Part of the Package....
YESWEDJ.COM 1:59 PM - 14 February, 2010
It is still kind of silly what if I did not use SSL....
The Reverand 2:15 PM - 14 February, 2010
No not instead. Its the same library. Or you can use iTunes.
YESWEDJ.COM 2:36 PM - 14 February, 2010
cool....
kraal 2:55 PM - 14 February, 2010
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It is still kind of silly what if I did not use SSL....

you could still use ssl to analyze :)
nik39 3:11 PM - 14 February, 2010
Seriously, this has turned into a boring ass thread. *sigh*
The Reverand 3:13 PM - 14 February, 2010
ITCH 2.0 is gonna be bad ass and make all of our dreams come true. And comes preloaded with fairy dust, unicorns and candy. Discuss.
The Reverand 3:13 PM - 14 February, 2010
:D
kraal 3:13 PM - 14 February, 2010
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Seriously, this has turned into a boring ass thread. *sigh*

yeah it has a lot to with no new facts about 2.0 being released and the release date seems to be getting further and futher away
ontime1269 3:13 PM - 14 February, 2010
There needs to be a baby crying sound effect added to it.
MusicDan 7:50 PM - 14 February, 2010
It may not be on topic but at least YESWEDJ.COM learned something he didn't know, and isn't that the point of these forums? We all use the same software and we should be helping each other out and most of the time all we do is bash one another...
czar 7:56 PM - 14 February, 2010
dan its all good. some get annoyed at multiple threads/ hijacking/ blah blah blah, but when something important is happening no one really misses it. =)
czar 7:58 PM - 14 February, 2010
if "hijacking" (whatever) was to be forbidden somehow.. no one would learn anything here.
Dj Fitty 10:48 PM - 14 February, 2010
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ITCH 2.0 is gonna be bad ass and make all of our dreams come true. And comes preloaded with fairy dust, unicorns and candy. Discuss.


too bad its gonna require extra purchases to see its full potential, I for one am not gonna be a sucker again by making a purchase to unlock this, a purchase to unlock that and if I do make give in...... it would be a complete all in one solution with the idea that it would work with future software enhancements
Dj Fitty 10:50 PM - 14 February, 2010
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There needs to be a baby crying sound effect added to it.


hell yeah no thats funny!
Dj Fitty 10:50 PM - 14 February, 2010
opps now thats funny!
kraal 10:56 PM - 14 February, 2010
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too bad its gonna require extra purchases to see its full potential,

to a degree you have a point but if you change your veiw it makes better since..... the software is 'free' what you paid for was the controller. so when itch 2.0 comes out you still get the full potential of the controller you purchased.

just like anything cars, tv's computers home heating system, cell phones then next year model will always have something that the previous model did not (referring to hardware)
czar 12:12 AM - 15 February, 2010
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ITCH 2.0 is gonna be bad ass and make all of our dreams come true. And comes preloaded with fairy dust, unicorns and candy. Discuss.


too bad its gonna require extra purchases to see its full potential, I for one am not gonna be a sucker again by making a purchase to unlock this, a purchase to unlock that and if I do make give in...... it would be a complete all in one solution with the idea that it would work with future software enhancements


I guess it will come down to waiting for itch and deciding if buying the controller (in case that's what happens, not clear yet) will be worth it or maybe another software will give more..

@ Dear Kraal.

I have said it before and will say it again. to a lot of people it is not about having the latest or whatever, it's about usability. I have a midi controller that goes for 50 bucks and hasn't failed once in 3 years and it just connects with a usb totally map able. To people who have issues with other software than Itch fine but to people who have no issue using another software mapping makes more sense.

you always like to point to people that the 1 on 1 but I have told u before I bought the NS7 because it has no needles to worry about. I could give less than 1 about the 1 on 1.. I am sure there are plenty of people who agree. Not if they dont use other software or are somehow obsessed with Itch or Serato for that matter but people like me the 1 on 1 is not a selling point. At least until I have issues with other software because of the mapping feautures.
YESWEDJ.COM 12:29 AM - 15 February, 2010
I agree,

1 On 1 Means nothing to me.. just get the job done...


Hate or love me it is your call... LOl///
Dj Fitty 12:50 AM - 15 February, 2010
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damn it looks like dj Quartz have the ns7 working with Traktor, looks good
YESWEDJ.COM 12:58 AM - 15 February, 2010
Cool... I am all over that transition... : )
YESWEDJ.COM 1:07 AM - 15 February, 2010
Brandyn Wrote this at another Threat:If you read the other posts for help you will see I'm not the only one who has come to this conclusion. I wonder, how it is possible that Serato Scratch Live has become the industry standard and ITCH is just so unstable? Are the same people writing the code for ITCH? Seriously, when so many users are having the same problems, something has to be wrong with this software. More and more users encountering freezing, dropouts, crashes and it is happening for both PC and Mac operating systems. I hope Serato realizes just how fragile their reputation can be among the DJ community, and corrects these issues quickly. Personally, I've already gone back to the Pioneer's for gigs, the NS7 only gets use in the studio for practice and recording. I can't wait around for the beta testing, I need a system that works now. Even worse, I'm hearing other DJ's I know talking about avoiding Numark (bringing up the old PPD days) and losing trust in the brand. Come to think of it, I have Numark mixer that always gave me trouble with the left channel cutting out. Then again, I have a RANE EQ that has always had static fuzz in the knobs. Why did I buy this NS7 again??

Wao... Is this guy reading my mind or something?
I thought I was the only one Trapped....
YESWEDJ.COM 1:11 AM - 15 February, 2010
Hate ME or Love ME, your Call... At the end of the day it is what it is and it is not looking that good among Djs I work with...

So Itch Lovers, Itch Better get it together.... LOL... Reputation is the last thing you want to loose...
Antony Ellis 1:21 AM - 15 February, 2010
YESWEDJ....your boring.....go and chat your sh*t to someone who cares...lmao. :O)
Subdriven 2:26 AM - 15 February, 2010
He's kinda is right. I've been playing on vinyl for 10 years and have seen the progression to midi controlers and cdj's. Many of my freinds switched to pioneers and have loved it. I didn't want to buy some cheap cdj's and not be happy with it and I didn't have the on hand cash for the 1000's so I stuck to my vinyl. I went to guitar center to buy my daughter a guitar and saw the NS7 there and started playing with it, loved it and started do the research on it and liked what I saw. My lap top was in spec (slightly over) what was needed so a new laptop wasn't needed. I ended up getting a little extra cash and put it towards the NS7. The first one I received was all kinda a flaued and instantly turned it it to get a new one. The 2nd one worked great I just needed to tweak my laptop to fix the dropouts and odd issues. But now I and running 1.5 RC2 with windows 7 64 bit( which I know isn't 100% supported yet) and still cann't play a full hour with out some kinda odd issue. I am sticking to it and still love my NS7 but it doesn't give them a good name for me as a first time digital DJ and if I never get this NS7 runnning like it should I don't think I will repurchase a Numark. Crossing my fingers for Itch 2.0 and I want to stay on my NS7 because It does have awsome potential!
czar 2:45 AM - 15 February, 2010
Me personally have had no issues with Itch so far except for the drivers (Win 7 64 bit) before the latest one. They were beta so it's understandable. With the latest driver my only issue disappeared since. I have had great success as far as having Itch work..
spazz 4:13 AM - 15 February, 2010
Serato and Numark have created an innovative and revolutionary product. So this is new ground they are covering with the way they are using High Speed MIDI over USB. This has nothing to do with the build quality of the NS7 because it was built right. This has nothing to do with the coding of Itch becasue it was coded with good developers. The problem is they are in unchartered waters with this new High Speed MIDI technology. You could actually say the product is ahead of it's time becasue the average dual-core pc laptops (well within specs) are not able to consistently handle the MIDI translation properly (for whatever reason). That's why the finely tuned macbook laptops shine.
MusicDan 4:15 AM - 15 February, 2010
It seems like some of us here have no issues and the rest have issues. I for one am part of the lucky ones that have no issues. I started a thread that spoke about people who had no problems with itch. There were many. Most of them were Mac users but there were allot of PC users as well. (I am not starting a Mac Vs. PC discussion here, I already started a thread just for that.) The only person who chimed in that was having problems that was using a Mac was using an old iBook that was way under spec. Does that mean that some Mac users dont have problems? No, but allot of people here have had success using itch. Could it be that the ones who aren't have bad units? Yes. Or it could be that their laptops are not tweaked properly. Follow the guidelines on how to setup your laptop properly and then come and complain if it doesnt work. And call the respective hardware company and complain to them too (Numark, Vestax, Denon). I believe that it is not the software. It is either the users and their laptop, or the actual hardware. Just my thoughts...
YESWEDJ.COM 4:47 AM - 15 February, 2010
thanks Anthony,

But it does not seem so boring to other users....
YESWEDJ.COM 4:49 AM - 15 February, 2010
Thanks for out speaking any how, Subdriven
YESWEDJ.COM 5:07 AM - 15 February, 2010
Anthony I think you are boring as well, go to another forum if you cant deal with the heat... LMFAO...

I do not care about your emotional attachments to the product... So I think you should respect the felling of others....
kraal 6:19 AM - 15 February, 2010
czar in your post to me you said 'the 1 on 1 isn't a selling point' to some.

which i completely agree .... so if that is what ITCH is advertising and it is not a selling point then those people should think twice before buying.

a lot of people read my post as me saying ITCH is the perfect package which i have never said nor do i think that.
What I am saying is take ITCH for what it is . take it at face value and the ask is it what you want,
Maskrider 9:22 AM - 15 February, 2010
I'm a mobile Dj and the reason I bought(VCI-300) it is because of portability and stability I use my computer solely for ITCH and SL and never had Dropouts unless I'm testing a beta.

ITCH 2.0 looks promising but as a mobile Dj do I need it probably not. I'm fine where I am right now.

I'm a PC Btw.
k_one 9:39 AM - 15 February, 2010
@ YESWEDJ.COM

I can put up with your endless ranting about not being satisfied with your NS7 purchase and ITCH. (I don't know for how much longer though..LOL)
But could you please try to keep your comments to one post at the time?
Not that I'm a mod or anything, I'm just getting tired of scrolling 3 x more than necessary to keep up with reading this thread...:P
Antony Ellis 12:01 PM - 15 February, 2010
YESWEDJ...i can deal with you dont you worry! ;)
YESWEDJ.COM 1:52 PM - 15 February, 2010
No Problem Kids,
I will give you kids a break.... Let us wait for ITCH 2.0.....
and let's the game begin....
Antony Ellis 2:18 PM - 15 February, 2010
Seeeee yaaaaa......Muppit!
YESWEDJ.COM 2:52 PM - 15 February, 2010
NOne said I was gone,

by the way here in New York the Word Muppit! is OVER RATED...

Can deal with the heat? I will keep it coming....

HATE ME OR LOVE ME AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE...
MusicDan 3:03 PM - 15 February, 2010
Quote:


HATE ME OR LOVE ME AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE...

I like that...can I use it?
Antony Ellis 3:51 PM - 15 February, 2010
Keep what coming YESWEDJ.....? It seems its you who can't deal with the HEAT, its obvious you can't deal with the banter!! lol
nik39 4:07 PM - 15 February, 2010
Man, enough childish jibberish.

Can we get back on topic?
YESWEDJ.COM 4:15 PM - 15 February, 2010
Yes please lets go back to the topic?

Any News On Itch?
DJ.AJ 4:35 PM - 15 February, 2010
I think what kraal is saying in part - When you are looking at a controller to buy, you should be doing your homework on the software it will run on and decide if "combo" will give you what you want. I for one - just bought the NS7 without really looking into ITCH at all. It was only when i started comparing it to other software that i developed a "something" is missing feeling. Mostly i felt that way because scratch live has a sampler and it was made by the same company and with my programming background i just don't see how that continues to be left out release after release. but i think spazz is right when he says
Quote:

The problem is they are in uncharted waters with this new High Speed MIDI technology

That could be the reason why.
DJ.AJ 4:35 PM - 15 February, 2010
Hoping 2.0 will have a sampler plugin of some sorts - without having to spend 500 dollars on Abel-ton.
kraal 4:47 PM - 15 February, 2010
Quote:
Hoping 2.0 will have a sampler plugin of some sorts - without having to spend 500 dollars on Abel-ton.

in all honesty so do i (wow look i even say features are missing, imagine that)
to be exact i would of liked a sampler well before effects were added
YESWEDJ.COM 4:59 PM - 15 February, 2010
Likewise,,,,
czar 5:05 PM - 15 February, 2010
I bought the NS7 because it has no needles to worry about.
wadup 5:35 PM - 15 February, 2010
with the release of ssl pb2.0.. i definitely see alot of anger building up from itch users. I'm also anxious, i think this is going to be a repeat of ssl users constantly asking when? when? when? ssl 2.0 going to be release. anyway the reality of it serato said it would be release early 1st quarter of 2010.... still have 1 more month.
spazz 6:01 PM - 15 February, 2010
Quote:
...to be exact i would of liked a sampler well before effects were added

I felt the same way...
DJ.AJ 8:03 PM - 15 February, 2010
+1 - i have the nsfx and don't use it except at home or when talking on the mic. guess im really and old head after all
DJ.AJ 8:03 PM - 15 February, 2010
alreadys used samples even back when i could afford was a little casio to use as a trigger lol
spazz 9:22 PM - 15 February, 2010
Same here AJ. I just like using drops for transition vs effects. Don't get me wrong, I like them both but sampling just get my creative juices going more then the same old 8 effects.
Subdriven 1:05 AM - 16 February, 2010
I do understand that I am running beta versions and do understand that some of my isues may be from that and some may be becuase I'm running a pc not a mac( sorry pc users). But whenI look up a spec needed to run something and stick my heart and wallet into it I want it to work. I love this thing. I love the feel of vinyl with out the needles and love the single unit design and the fact how I can set it how I want and not rely on a preset torque, speed, slip, start or stop speed or many other options I can set. So far the Itch people have been VERY helpfull on all my issues and many were user error lol. I just hope 2.0 comes out soon!
DJFLEX83 1:07 AM - 16 February, 2010
hope so subdriven.
kraal 1:09 AM - 16 February, 2010
i am just gonna toss this out there..... I own a vci-300 and ITCH. most of the people i am butting heads with in this discussion own the NS7 so possible the issue is with the ns7 not ITCH ?
czar 1:17 AM - 16 February, 2010
Quote:
i am just gonna toss this out there..... I own a vci-300 and ITCH. most of the people i am butting heads with in this discussion own the NS7 so possible the issue is with the ns7 not ITCH ?


I dont own the VCI but I think that what you are trying to say is that perhaps NS7 users see the NS7 as more capable as a hardware controller than the software allows it? I don't own the VCI but I could see the VCI also being very able.

hmm Kraal I think u need to just take a breather and relax and stop trying to come up with crazy ideas; when people say they are talking about a lighting rod they are talking about the lighting rod not a sports car. what i mean is people are talking about Itch so... feel me?
kraal 1:20 AM - 16 February, 2010
@czar --- you response had nothing to do with my post ... sorry.
czar 1:22 AM - 16 February, 2010
ur post doesn't make sense bud. sorry.
Antony Ellis 1:50 AM - 16 February, 2010
Quote:
i am just gonna toss this out there..... I own a vci-300 and ITCH. most of the people i am butting heads with in this discussion own the NS7 so possible the issue is with the ns7 not ITCH ?


why doesn't it make sense czar??
DJ.AJ 1:58 AM - 16 February, 2010
LOL

Kraal - I own the NS7. I started out with using a Toshiba that was well within the published specs (Intel, 4gb RAM, etc, etc).

My problem had very little to do with ITCH and everything to do with the computer (NOT PC/WIN as a platform). For me i had IRQ Conflicts out of the gate, so serato helped point me in the right direction. I fixed that. Next It plays but with dropouts. This was because the system would only allow 20 percent resources to the USB port that NS7 was plugged into and disabling the other ports did not reclaim the resources.

It was purely a build/driver issue by the PC manufacturer. Then i went and bought an intel based macbook pro and had no issues out of the gate. The MAC/OSX is very closed.

and like the gentlemen said sometimes it's just user error.

Ah i think i found it. The PC as a platform was just to unstable because it is very open.
Kevin Kelly 2:13 AM - 16 February, 2010
I know I sound like a broken record but if 2.0 will finally make my newer Windows 7 64 machine as stable as my other Vista laptop that runs itch now, I would be a happy man!
YESWEDJ.COM 2:17 AM - 16 February, 2010
I thought I was the only Annoying one over here?

LOL...
Let stay on ITCH Before I get going.... LFMAo....
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 3:14 AM - 16 February, 2010
Hey YESWEDJ.COM.

Can you please link me to your help thread? Sorry if we have been trying to help you with your crate and analyzing issues for some time. We most certainly try to resolve people's issues as fast as possible when they are brought to our attention through a help ticket.

Cheers :D
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 3:38 AM - 16 February, 2010
Hey guys.

It would be good if you took the time to read over this (as boring as it is):

You are on the forum where people come when they have issue. People almost never come here when they aren't experiencing an issue, or users that are seeking information or help in some way. It takes a while for a forum community to grow (or to grow into something like the Scratch Live one).

Many ITCH users love to put their issues into the ITCH General Discussion area instead of the Help area. Most of the time we check this area last in our task list - so sometimes a thread may take a day or two before it's seen by a moderator or support team member.

We try to move help topics into the help area, but many are more general in nature, or just users letting off steam. We here at Serato believe in free speech, as such we never close down threads where a user complains or vents or censor a user's voice. This is the best way to create stable and usable products (such as how we grew the Scratch Live community).

However, to many new to the ITCH scene, this may come across as ITCH having 'too many problems' or that it is 'too buggy'. Well, the truth is simply that ITCH is an amazingly stable software platform, and the team behind it are phenomenally dedicated at creating a strong and powerful software product. I should know, I support this for a living - and it isn't rocket science :D

99% of all user problems are basic issues. These can be dealt with by fixing a user's computer, or optimizing the OS for pro audio use (like any other pro audio package), or a basic setup problem. The 1% of the time that things are more difficult, only a few cases turn out to actually be a bug, but are most often a severe IRQ conflict or hardware fault at some level of the laptop or controller.

If it is the hardware, we always make a priority of getting this resolved as soon as possible with our hardware partners. If it is a problem with the laptop, then there is not much we can do apart form helping the user as much as possible in the hope that we can either alleviate the issue, or say we tried everything to help the user out with their laptop (many other companies would just tell them to go talk to their laptop manufacturer).

We aim to make sure that users always feel like they have a voice, even if it is to complain. Even if we know that other users will see this and immediately assume that things are 'totally bad'. The truth is that only a VERY small number of users have issues, and almost all of these are resolved within a very short time frame.

So while a user may feel their issue may seem to be happening to 'everyone' and is 'everywhere', when you get down to it, it's often not...

So any user with a problem - start a help thread. That is where you will get help and we will put all our resources into helping you resolve the problem as expediently as possible.

Cheers :D
YESWEDJ.COM 3:51 AM - 16 February, 2010
THANKS,
czar 3:56 AM - 16 February, 2010
I think overall we are a pretty positive and well behaved community. I think it's hard, even to get a whole forum filled give negative or ill mannered people. We are working in making better our ways of communicating ideas with time and building a pretty good relation I think. =)
zaguama 6:38 PM - 17 February, 2010
I sure hope ITCH 2.0 is not as buggy as SSL2.0 whenever the beta gets released :D
Numark, Support
sbangs 6:47 PM - 17 February, 2010
Quote:
I sure hope ITCH 2.0 is not as buggy as SSL2.0 whenever the beta gets released :D


They will have done most of the work already by debugging the new code for SL2.
Subdriven 7:03 PM - 17 February, 2010
Itch 1.5 RC2 isn't real buggy ether as far as I can tell. I just want the official Win 7 64 bit drivers and firmware. Bet that fixes anything I need it to do..
DJ GaFFle 9:38 PM - 17 February, 2010
Quote:
Quote:
I sure hope ITCH 2.0 is not as buggy as SSL2.0 whenever the beta gets released :D


They will have done most of the work already by debugging the new code for SL2.

Do you mean the iTCH developers will have done most of the debugging on iTCH 2.0 alongside the seperate SSL developers who are working on SSL 2.0?

It's my understanding that iTCH and SSL are totally different (especially internally).
kraal 10:01 PM - 17 February, 2010
Quote:

It's my understanding that iTCH and SSL are totally different (especially internally).

the CORE of both softwares are the same. then SERATO will need to layer on the itch only code. but library and shared engines are the same
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 1:24 AM - 18 February, 2010
Scratch Live 2.0 is in public beta now, where bugs are killed... we won't let it out until we are happy.

ITCH 2.0 shares some code, although there are obviously quite a bit of unique code that won't help the other platform.

Both Scratch Live 2.0 and ITCH 2.0 will be extremely stable when the final release is available.

ITCH 1.5 is very stable at present, so expect a similar level of stability :D
Subdriven 1:41 AM - 18 February, 2010
I'm happy so far with Itch 1.5 RC2. ( as long as we get a stable 64 bit Win 7 driver) .. lol So when we geting that??
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 2:05 AM - 18 February, 2010
Haha - it's up to Numark on the driver front, so I am not sure.
Subdriven 4:11 AM - 18 February, 2010
Serious? Thought that was a software thing, meaning the program running it. Well then props on your side, they need to step it up.. lol
Serato, Moderator
Matt-C 4:14 AM - 18 February, 2010
They are doing a great job. 64bit drivers for hardware that conveys that amount of information is hard. But it's normally the hardware creator to do drivers. Although we also make sure that the hardware-driver-software integration is fantastic :D
czar 4:21 AM - 18 February, 2010
I just feel like laughing and I don't understand why. I am a happy man I guess, always laughing and smiling. =)
Maskrider 11:16 AM - 18 February, 2010
I played with the ITCH 1.5 last night for 4 hours and there is only one song that I can't remember that I had a dropout but everything else was ok.
Subdriven 11:50 AM - 18 February, 2010
Ever since I went to RC2 1.5 my random backwards spinning doesn't happen, almost all dropouts are gone and no freezing up. I'm so much happier with this model. Not sure if my issues where 1.1 or rc1 or windows vista or the drivers, but It's getting better!! The drop out of random controls ( once moved they work again) is that a driver or a software issues? Or is that my PC? ( please no mac vs pc here ... lol )
Dj Fitty 2:51 PM - 18 February, 2010
Quote:
Ever since I went to RC2 1.5 my random backwards spinning doesn't happen, almost all dropouts are gone and no freezing up. I'm so much happier with this model. Not sure if my issues where 1.1 or rc1 or windows vista or the drivers, but It's getting better!! The drop out of random controls ( once moved they work again) is that a driver or a software issues? Or is that my PC? ( please no mac vs pc here ... lol )


vista are you serious? get a Mac
kraal 4:05 PM - 18 February, 2010
Quote:


vista are you serious? get a Mac

this is getting old *sigh*
KLH 4:12 PM - 18 February, 2010
Quote:
vista are you serious? get a Mac

serato.com

-KLH
Dj Fitty 6:00 PM - 18 February, 2010
Quote:
Quote:


vista are you serious? get a Mac

this is getting old *sigh*


I was just playing, how do you say? dont feed the troll
KLH 7:17 PM - 18 February, 2010
^^ You got me, DJ Fitty.
KLH 7:17 PM - 18 February, 2010
^^ You got me, DJ Fitty.

-KLH
KLH 7:18 PM - 18 February, 2010
^^ Huh?
YESWEDJ.COM 3:04 AM - 20 February, 2010
where is everyone?
YESWEDJ.COM 3:20 AM - 20 February, 2010
UPDATE:
ITCH 1.5 ( NO LONGER BETA)

is a recommended maintenance update for all ITCH users, it contains support for all current ITCH hardware, all current Mac and Windows OS, and many bug fixes. ITCH 1.5 also supports Apple Lossless audio file playback, and there are new shift functions for Numark NS7 and Numark V7 users.

You do not need to install any previous ITCH version before installing version 1.5.


Features

Support for current ITCH hardware

ITCH Controllers with internal audio mixing
Numark NS7: www.serato.com
Vestax VCI-300: www.serato.com
Please note: Allen & Heath Xone:DX support will be in the next ITCH version.

ITCH Components for outboard audio mixing
Denon DJ DN-HC5000: www.serato.com
Numark V7: www.serato.com

ITCH DJ FX Controllers
Numark NSFX: www.serato.com
Vestax VFX-1: www.serato.com

Support for the following OS

Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
Windows 7 *
Windows Vista **
Windows XP
* Windows 7 64-bit drivers for the Numark NS7 and the Numark V7 are in testing. Beta drivers are available for download: serato.com
** Windows Vista 64-bit drivers for the Numark V7 are in testing. Beta drivers are available for download: serato.com

Support for Apple Lossless files
Apple Lossless is an audio codec developed by Apple for lossless data compression of audio files.

New shift functions for Numark NS7 and Numark V7
(the DELETE button now doubles as SHIFT on the NS7)
SHIFT + CRATE = sort current view by Song
SHIFT + PREPARE = sort current view by Artist
SHIFT + FILES = sort current view by BPM
SHIFT + 1, 2, 4, 8 = Loop Roll 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1
SHIFT + SYNC = beat sync
SHIFT + 1/2, 2x, L, R = Selects Stored Loops 1-4 and Reloops them instantly
SHIFT + Track Next / Prev = fast forward/fast rewind
SHIFT + FWD - Sort current view by album
SHIFT + BACK - Sort current view by track number


Bug fixes

Bug Fixes for all ITCH hardware

* Improved the auto BPM algorithm to be more accurate in some cases.
* Fixed possible crash for WAV and OGG files.
* Fixed iTunes library showing up thrice on Snow Leopard.
* Fixed iTunes 9 root folder and library not showing on import.
* Fixed looping display to show auto-loop value when no manual loop is active (VCI-300 and DN-HC5000 only).
* Improvements to subcrate expand/collapse code which should hopefully reduce gui lags that occur when expanding/collapsing crates.
* Fix for bug where halving a loop and then doubling the loop to it's original size would result in a loop of the wrong length.
* Improved History load and save times, and reduced memory usage. History sessions are now loaded on demand. Note: Because of this your history sessions will appear empty in previous versions of ITCH and versions of Scratch Live earlier than 1.9.2.
* Fix a crash where users with path names too long could lead to a crash,
* Fixed bug where if both decks were in continuous play mode, then continuous play would not work.
* Fixed min screen res warning on windows to say ITCH instead of Scratch Live.
* Fixed bug where you couldn't record a .wav file past 3 hours.
* Fixed songs drifting when in instant doubles in some cases
* Improved deck information text rendering on minimum screen res (1024x768)
* Fixed history algorithm to use 'added to mix' algorithm for the Numark NS7 + Vestax VCI-300 and the 'A-B' algorithm for the HC5000 (ITCH was doing a weird mix of both)
* Fixed hole in the history algorithm where playing then pausing a track with the faders closed would cause the track to be incorrectly marked as played when the faders were opened (even though the track is no longer playing)
* Fix for crash when switching Show iTunes library option
* Fixed crash on exit when recording is left running
* Fixed undesired behaviour where the offline player playback gain affects master gain when in connected mode
* Fixed offline player not connecting to the default sound card on Mac OS 10.6 when a controller is disconnected.
* Fixed crash when analyzing files
* Fixed bug where parent crates could have their subcrates tracks in them on start up
* Fixed bug where opening the files panel while on the setup screen would cause the files panel to be drawn on the setup screen
* Phantom playhead is reset when loop roll is initialised the first time even when auto-loop was previously on (so the playhead doesn't end up jumping a million miles into the future)
* Fixed a bug where BPM analyzer sometimes comes out with -1 as the bpm
* Fixed offline player possibly clipping
* Fix for bug where iTunes tracks won't show up when they have a lower case drive letter in the iTunes xml file
* Fixed search box not able to search by key, and also only being able to search by year if "search by key" is selected.
* Fixed a possible crash when using looping section.
* Fixed ITCH not being able to analyze songs in all subcrates when dragging a parent crate onto the "ANALYZE" files button.
* Fixed ITCH corrupting .M4A files when adding/deleting non-English characters to tags
* Fixed brightness of song overviews broken in ITCH 1.1, where the overviews decreased in brightness, and in some cases in size.
* Added low quality Whitelabel preview indicator to offline player.

Bug Fixes for ITCH controllers with internal audio mixing

Numark NS7 fixes
* Fixed NS7 not having a recording panel in the setup screen
* Fixed instant start option for the NS7
* Fixed scratch detection for when using keylock
* Fixed a bug where instant doubled songs' positions are initially substantially offset if one of the platters has to spin up or down to get to the equal spin rate
* Fixed bug where NS7 0% pitch led was not initialising correctly
* Fixed bug where starting the NS7 with ch1-ch2 selected as the meter mode would not initialise correctly and the master would show on the meters instead
* Possible fix for crash in NS7 looping code
* Fixed instant double tracks not lining up when motor has to go +50 to -50 and "motor torque" is LOW.

Vestax VCI-300 fixes
* Fixed VCI-300 not having a recording panel in the setup screen
* Fixed bug where rotating the platter while holding shift then releasing shift first will cause pressing shift to stop the playhead
* Fixed Snow Leopard hot-plugging issue
* A message now displays in the status bar when VCI-300 cue/play uses shift option is enabled and cue or play are pressed without shift

Bug Fixes for ITCH Components for outboard audio mixing

Denon DN-HC5000 fixes
* Fixed Repeat to be disabled on right deck when relay mode is on
* Fixed controller displays not showing "(A1" "(A2" when cue points are set
* Fixed Denon DN-HC5000 auto loop length number not displayed on screen

Numark V7 fixes
* Fixed tap button not lighting up on V7.

Bug Fixes for ITCH DJ FX Controllers

Numark NSFX fixes
* Fixed bug where NSFX FX mix was not initialising correctly on start up.
* Fixing crash on hotplugging the NSFX
* Fix for bug where Loop shift would jump twice the distance when the NSFX was plugged in.
* FX cue now replaces the channel cue when the FX are on for the NSFX - essentially, FX cue is on when the fx are on
* Fixed bug where disconnecting NSFX while fx were on could cause horrible noise in the headphones
* Fixed bug where reconnecting NSFX when fx had previously been on would apply the fx even though they were supposed to be off
* Fixed bug with the NSFX where after switching to manual tempo mode, switching back to auto mode turns the button off instead of lighting it white
* When listening to a cue source, pre-fader effects assigned to that source will be heard (post-fader fx will not).

Vestax VFX-1 fixes
* Fix for the VFX-1's latched LEDs being reversed
* Fix for latching behavior being reversed
* Fixed tremolo not working while depth knob was being moved
* Fixed flanger LFOs resetting when the depth knob is moved.
* Vestax VFX-1 working with Denon DJ DN-HC5000
* Fixed bug on the VFX-1 where switching from Echo/Delay while on Beats X1/X2 to an effect other than echo/delay did not change beats to the correct value for X1/X2.

ITCH DJ FX fixes (for Vestax VFX-1 and Numark NSFX)
* Improved crusher effect
* Fixed crusher not showing up as a selectable effect
* Improved reverb
* Eliminated some clicks on effect switching
* Eliminated clicks when turning effects on and off
* Eliminated artifacts when adjusting feedback on delay and echo
* Eliminated artifacts while adjusting the depth knob on the reverb and tremolo
* Fixed Effects GUI not showing correct time values.
* Fixed bit crusher MOD/X name - was "BLEND". Supposed to be "SKEW".
* Fix for the depth change bug - you needed to move the depth knob when selecting a new effect for the new effect to pick up the depth values correctly.
* Fixed reverser count bug. The problem was that the GUI was not in sync with the count that was actually in effect.
* Fixed Effects GUI bug where X1 and X2 note durations showed 16/1 and 32/1 instead of 1/16 and 1/32 for delay and echo.
* Fix for bug where selecting reverb, turn effect unit on and then switching to the next effect would cause the effect to not be processed even though it was active on the gui and the controller
* Fixed crash that could occur when connecting fx hardware or starting up with FX already connected
* Fixed bug where replugging an fx controller would cause half a second or so of silence ( note, you may still get dropouts on some machines on a reconnect )
* Fixed bug when engaging the crusher at zero depth, you can hear the sound change
* Made user presets for effects a lot more robust
* Improved stability of the filters


Running more than one version of ITCH
Installing this version will by default overwrite any previous version you had installed, however it is easy to have more than one version of ITCH installed if you wish.

If you have an important gig coming up, you might like to stick with the version you know until you are comfortable with 1.5.

Here's how to do it:

Windows

Before installing
* In Explorer, go to 'C:\Program files\Serato\ITCH\'
* Rename 'ITCH.exe' to 'ITCH 1.1.exe'

Then install ITCH version 1.5.

When you install the new version, the old executable will not be deleted. If you wish to run version 1.1, run 'ITCH 1.1.exe'. You can still run two versions of ITCH if you have already installed version 1.5 - just rename the executable to 'ITCH 1.5.exe', and then reinstall the version you were previously running.

Mac

Before installing
* Make sure you are logged in as an Admin user.
* In Finder, go to the 'Applications' folder
* Rename 'ITCH' to 'ITCH 1.1', for example

Then install ITCH version 1.5.


Backing up your data

Before you make any changes to your ITCH setup, including installing a new version, as a general rule we highly recommend that you backup your data. The easiest way to backup your data is simply to copy your _Serato_ or ScratchLIVE folders to another location on the drive, or for a more secure backup in case of a hard drive failure, to external media such as a writable CD or DVD.

For the drive that contains "My Documents", just copy the _Serato_ or ScratchLIVE folder which is in My Documents\My Music\ to another location on this drive, or a backup device.

To back up database and crates of an external drive, copy the _Serato_ or ScratchLIVE folder (which is in the root of the drive) to another location on this drive, or a backup device.

Keep a backup of all your audio tracks. Just like any other machine, computers are never truly 100% reliable. Hard disk drives can fail without warning, and data corruption is possible even with a good hard drive when ITCH is not running.


Downloads

Mac: serato.com
Windows: serato.com
kraal 8:07 AM - 20 February, 2010
Quote:
where is everyone?

we are mixing :)
YESWEDJ.COM 2:37 PM - 20 February, 2010
Cool
djcerla 3:20 PM - 20 February, 2010
I'm remixing.
Subdriven 4:01 PM - 20 February, 2010
Well we are officially .5 away from goal!!! lol Time to give this a new spin...
DJFLEX83 6:02 PM - 20 February, 2010
thanks serato. waitin for itch 2.0 beta
kraal 6:04 PM - 20 February, 2010
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thanks serato. waitin for itch 2.0 beta

wow we are never going to be content here are we ;)
KLH 9:42 PM - 20 February, 2010
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Well we are officially .5 away from goal!!! lol Time to give this a new spin...

Does that mean we have 1/2 goal to achieve?

-KLH
Maskrider 9:45 PM - 20 February, 2010
This thing about updates is never gonna end.....lol
I1Kirm 10:15 PM - 20 February, 2010
I'm already excited about ITCH 2.5, not to mention 3 :P
I1Kirm 10:18 PM - 20 February, 2010
On a serious note, since Serato claims better BPM detection in 1.5 i decided to rescan the BPM of my whole library. I took 8+ hours. I'm waiting for my next gig to see whether my minor BPM issues are gone or not...
BadBoyChubs 10:27 PM - 20 February, 2010
BTW how to recan BPM?
kraal 10:29 PM - 20 February, 2010
press ctrl when you hit the analyze button
Subdriven 4:54 AM - 21 February, 2010
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Quote:
Well we are officially .5 away from goal!!! lol Time to give this a new spin...

Does that mean we have 1/2 goal to achieve?

-KLH



1.5 is not out.... 1.5 - 2.0 = .5 ...
sl1pm4t 6:13 AM - 21 February, 2010
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1.5 is not out.... 1.5 - 2.0 = .5 ...


1.5 is out
www.serato.com
Subdriven 8:48 PM - 21 February, 2010
Mistype... not = now ..... O.o
Subdriven 8:49 PM - 21 February, 2010
ok.. and reading my last post kinda made me want to rewrite it all......


1.5 is now out.... 2.0 - 1.5 = .5 ... means we have .5 to go till 2.0
KLH 8:51 PM - 21 February, 2010
Since it's take a year to go from 1.1 to 1.5, I estimate that by this time next year, we'll have 2.0...

-KLH
Subdriven 11:13 PM - 21 February, 2010
So why all the hype on 2.0 right now?? 1.5 just came out.. try that... :)
KLH 11:15 PM - 21 February, 2010
^ We always want more and besides, it's this thread's title!

-KLH
Subdriven 11:46 PM - 21 February, 2010
True.... can we start the 3.0 one yet??
MusicDan 11:47 PM - 21 February, 2010
I want VIDEO and I want TALKOVER in 2.0. Anyone know of what to expect in 2.0 other than beatgrid?
MusicDan 11:48 PM - 21 February, 2010
And it has to be automatic talkover...
czar 11:57 PM - 21 February, 2010
I want to sit down or dance =D and whatever I think the software to do! also control lights at will with brain power. =)) *When I forget to think I want the software to make the best choice based on what "I" would do too. =D
I1Kirm 12:06 AM - 22 February, 2010
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And it has to be automatic talkover...

Well, we already have manual talkover, don't we?
MusicDan 12:44 AM - 22 February, 2010
You know what I mean...
kraal 12:49 AM - 22 February, 2010
the reason why all are now talking about 2.0 is cause serato announce 2.0
DJFLEX83 12:54 AM - 22 February, 2010
need video on 2.0.
zaguama 8:45 AM - 22 February, 2010
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So why all the hype on 2.0 right now?? 1.5 just came out.. try that... :)


most of us here have been trying it already since 1.5 beta 1, we talking about features not bug fixes.
Fluopix 8:46 AM - 22 February, 2010
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need video on 2.0.


+1 video sl for itch will be a dream config for all DVJ.
MusicDan 1:31 PM - 22 February, 2010
But it wouldn't be called video sl now would it.
kraal 1:38 PM - 22 February, 2010
no it would bt I.V
kraal 1:38 PM - 22 February, 2010
be I.V. that is
k_one 5:23 PM - 22 February, 2010
or video I maybe?
oh..wait, I got it! It should of course be called Vitch!(witch)hehe
djcerla 6:09 PM - 22 February, 2010
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It should of course be called Vitch!(witch)hehe


VITCH? What about Beatgrid-ITCH then? :)
MusicDan 8:14 PM - 22 February, 2010
Vitch, I like that one...
kraal 8:57 PM - 22 February, 2010
how about 'itch video it's about damn time'
DJFLEX83 9:09 PM - 22 February, 2010
we need an answer for the video on itch.
kraal 9:10 PM - 22 February, 2010
the non answer is good enought for me..... which to me translates to if they get it done we will see it :)
DJFLEX83 9:12 PM - 22 February, 2010
lets ask for it. i believe they can make it work.
MusicDan 9:13 PM - 22 February, 2010
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the non answer is good enought for me..... which to me translates to if they get it done we will see it :)


I am with you kraal, being that they explicitly came out and said that a sampler would not be in 2.0...
Maskrider 10:28 PM - 22 February, 2010
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the non answer is good enought for me..... which to me translates to if they get it done we will see it :)


I am with you kraal, being that they explicitly came out and said that a sampler would not be in 2.0...



+1
DJFLEX83 11:35 PM - 1 March, 2010
i want video on itch 2.0..
YESWEDJ.COM 12:20 PM - 2 March, 2010
I can Smell Itch 2.0......
James Roberts 12:27 PM - 2 March, 2010
what does it smell like?
Dj Kabrini Greens 4:14 PM - 2 March, 2010
raspberries and beat grid
Dj-dwrecker 4:21 PM - 2 March, 2010
you people need to email serato and numark like i did 2.0 will be released late 2nd quater and most likely have Bridge compatible in it and if you Want Video Use Virtual Dj 6.0
Dj Kabrini Greens 4:24 PM - 2 March, 2010
i just want it to have a dozen Easter eggs, for my omelet.
BadBoyChubs 5:43 PM - 2 March, 2010
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you people need to email serato and numark like i did 2.0 will be released late 2nd quater and most likely have Bridge compatible in it and if you Want Video Use Virtual Dj 6.0


I think that is for SSL 2.0, ITCH 2.0 will be release maybe in the 3rd quarter
Subdriven 5:58 PM - 2 March, 2010
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i just want it to have a dozen Easter eggs, for my omelet.


I can only find the 1 easter egg in 1.5... You know of any more?? or how to get to a level 2 filter junkie?
DJ Xio 6:07 PM - 2 March, 2010
Rating TAG!!!!!
maestromind 6:49 PM - 2 March, 2010
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Rating TAG!!!!!

+1
Subdriven - what's the easter egg you found?
Subdriven 1:24 AM - 3 March, 2010
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Subdriven - what's the easter egg you found?


the Super filter one where it turns your bass knob on the NS7 to a filter..
DJFLEX83 2:19 AM - 14 March, 2010
whats new on itch..?
KLH 6:02 AM - 14 March, 2010
v1.6 (for Xone: DX).

-KLH
Zuck 9:55 PM - 6 June, 2010
I would like a way to customize the way ITCH looks, kinda like what they're come out with for SSL.

I've been working with the DX so it would be nice if I could toggle between showing decks 1&3 and all four decks.

Also, the waveform overviews are so small I can't tell where my loops are.

This isn't a big deal but I use the DX and VCI. When I'm in offline mode the setup is of the last controller I used (had plugged in). Sometimes I may use the VCI the night before but when I'm in offline made the next day I'd like to work on stuff for the DX therefor I'd like the DX controls (cue and such) in the offline mode. Basically, if I can tell ITCH which offline mode I want to be on that would be helpful.

Finally, I would love it if there was a way I could tell ITCH to put my cue points in chronological order instead of the order I imputed them. Now that I have the DX I have one more cue but it's confusing when I put the cue point in the middle of the song but I have to use my last cue button.
BadBoyChubs 7:32 PM - 28 June, 2010
Cant wait to use "smart crates" make my life a lil easier1
Gonzo89 4:39 AM - 29 June, 2010
What are Smart crates?
Numark, Support
sbangs 12:53 PM - 29 June, 2010
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What are Smart crates?


They are crates which are build from specific criteria, similar to the Itunes smart playlists for example based on a year, artist, BPM range ect.
DJ.AJ 3:18 PM - 29 June, 2010
nice nice nice
Dj cuervo 3:33 PM - 29 June, 2010
Hopefully Itch 1.7 will have it. Don't hold your breath for 2.0.
DJ.AJ 5:12 PM - 29 June, 2010
There's a 1.7 ?
BadBoyChubs 5:32 PM - 29 June, 2010
not yet!
Dj cuervo 7:04 PM - 29 June, 2010
Yeah it is private beta.
Cid K 7:04 PM - 29 June, 2010
DONT TALK about it please!

That is part of the User Agreement.
Dj cuervo 7:11 PM - 29 June, 2010
I'm not in the beta. I just saw a post to sign for it. I work for a software company I know about the ULA.
Dj Cooly C 12:16 AM - 30 June, 2010
how can you sign up for the beta
kraal 12:22 AM - 30 June, 2010
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how can you sign up for the beta

not till a public beta can you sign up
Subdriven 1:56 AM - 30 June, 2010
private is hand picked.. if you wern't picked.. don't worry about it..
Dj Ace 3:28 AM - 30 June, 2010
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private is hand picked.. if you wern't picked.. don't worry about it..


LOL
zaguama 4:05 AM - 30 June, 2010
lol, well this is good news for us that didnt know about it, gives hope that serato was indeed working on something \o/
zaguama 4:24 AM - 30 June, 2010
hopefully all this wait is not just for beatgrid :p
KLH 5:33 AM - 30 June, 2010
You mean you weren't picked for the beta of ITCH v2.5? v2.0 was so six months ago...

-KLH
Subdriven 12:14 PM - 30 June, 2010
lol
BadBoyChubs 1:23 PM - 30 June, 2010
So wait ah minute, SSL done on public beta 2.1 and we waiting on ITCH 1.7 . LOLOl
Oh well i think our will still be better
Zuck 1:51 PM - 30 June, 2010
At this point, with all the new gear, I think Serato needs to hire more techs.
Dj Ace 8:09 PM - 30 June, 2010
they could if the consumers buy more "stuff"
Dj Olivier Gopheller 8:41 PM - 30 June, 2010
OOOPS...

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At this point, with all the new gear, I think Serato needs to hire more techs.

I would have better say: "At this point with all these bugs, I think Serato needs to hire more techs"

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they could if the consumers buy more "stuff"


They would if product was working fine and out of bugs ;)
Then Serato could lead the market.

But with a Itch 1.6 which sounds more like a beta software not sure consumers are so "open mind" to purchase it. (for now...)

For users of Xone, have u been guys to the A&H forum? and see how there people from tech staff from A&H are pissed, cos of the bad feedback they have from users which are using the "combo" xone dx / itch ?
If not u should have a look there...

Personally I had a problem with my xone dx, Im from belgium and I called directly in UK; they solved my problem within 3 open days... that's what I call reliable.

From my personal opinion i would prefer to post in forum "Ive an idea of a new feature that could stand into the next version" in order to make the soft even better than it is than post "hi; here's my bug1, there is my bug2...and so on..." but this is only possible when the soft is already working fine...

Now to be a bit constructive...
Is there any plan to improve the loop feature in the coming next version? like :
Being able to see the loop mark in the wave form from decks section (like the Cue is marked with triangle...) ?
also an option to activate/deactivate All loop by pressing only one button?
and so on...

ty.

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Xone DX / Itch 1.6
DJFLEX83 1:20 AM - 1 July, 2010
whats going on with itch.. for how long are we going to wait for 2.0 ? we need somthing new! serato pls say somthing.
djcerla 1:31 AM - 1 July, 2010
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for how long are we going to wait for 2.0 ?


2.0 or 1.7 why do you care? Maybe you like rounded numbers better?

Human psychology is funny sometimes.
Dj Olivier Gopheller 4:27 AM - 1 July, 2010
Human psychology is funny sometimes.

About numbers I would love a 69 version of it :P
zaguama 8:22 AM - 1 July, 2010
i would love any version numbre with beatgrid and higher quality effects at least.
Gonzo89 12:22 PM - 1 July, 2010
i dont remember who it was but whoever said that the next itch software upgrade was going to be in 2011 was pretty close...
djcerla 12:31 PM - 1 July, 2010
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i would love any version numbre with beatgrid and higher quality effects at least.


hold tight

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i dont remember who it was but whoever said that the next itch software upgrade was going to be in 2011 was pretty close...


wrong
ldc1129 12:38 PM - 1 July, 2010
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i dont remember who it was but whoever said that the next itch software upgrade was going to be in 2011 was pretty close...


yeah, but what part of 2011..................
BadBoyChubs 12:57 PM - 1 July, 2010
I had quess summer this year but if they push it till september it will be intime for my B-day bash!
kraal 3:51 PM - 1 July, 2010
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i dont remember who it was but whoever said that the next itch software upgrade was going to be in 2011 was pretty close...

well a full upgrade including bridge support ... i think will be here at christmas at the earliest seeing that SSL 2.0 is still the priorety
Gonzo89 1:15 AM - 2 July, 2010
i was exagerating obviously what i meant was the far off predictions have proven to be true..
DJdaveZ 6:36 AM - 3 July, 2010
and party... and bullsh!t... and party... and bullsh!t...

so much speculation... so little? lot!? time....
djcerla 8:19 AM - 6 July, 2010
Go get 1.7 Public Beta with BEATGRIDS for all controllers and much, much more!
Ian Williams 10:12 AM - 6 July, 2010
@ djcerla.

Where do I find the public beta of 1.7?
Subdriven 10:15 AM - 6 July, 2010
I only know of the private DX 1.7 beta
Subdriven 10:17 AM - 6 July, 2010
Nvm.. Found it!!! IT IS OUT!!!
marcA 11:31 AM - 6 July, 2010
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Go get 1.7 Public Beta with BEATGRIDS for all controllers and much, much more!

now djcerla, i'm waiting for you to make a beatgrid ns7 vid :)
controversial 5:55 PM - 6 July, 2010
so will itch ever let me use 4 decks on my vci300??? I would lobe to be able to do my drops right on itch instead of sucking up processor power with battery 3!
djcerla 6:48 PM - 6 July, 2010
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sucking up processor power with battery 3!


"sucking"?

Battery 3 barely uses cycles on my MBP 2.4.

BTW 4 decks on the VCI-3'00/NS7 is not on the horizon as far as I know.
Cid K 7:24 PM - 6 July, 2010
Battery 3 doesnt uses CPU at all, you shouldnt have any problems running both of them. You could even use Ableton with Itch without a hunch! I know a few people who does it without any problems at all.
kraal 10:38 PM - 6 July, 2010
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so will itch ever let me use 4 decks on my vci300??? !

i would think soon you would have a 4 deck scratch dj solution
controversial 2:01 AM - 7 July, 2010
thanks guys I guess i need to up my ram to 4 gigs I been playing with 1.7 all day today and wow how fun is it definitely enjoying the upgrade don't use the beat grids but I'm loving the new bar layout at the top.
Subdriven 2:15 AM - 7 July, 2010
?? at the top??
controversial 2:50 AM - 7 July, 2010
the new color lay out right under the serato name