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Decision Time!...ZXA5 vs DSR115

Certified Quality Entertainment 8:06 PM - 25 November, 2013
OK. Decision time!

So I found a buyer for my existing gear (RCF 312s and 718s) and I need to replace them.
Priced out a powered Danley sub and that was just too far out of reach so I will be going with Yorkville LS801PB subs ( I can get almost 4 of these for the price they gave me on 1 Danley!), but need to make a decision on the tops.
It is between the ZXA5 and DSR115. Have the money for either so that isn't the problem.
Just want to make the right choice.

Pros on DSR
Price
Limiter
Warranty

Pros on ZXA
Output
Weight
Bass response?

I will be running them full range for smaller parties, but will have them Hi Passed when using subs.
Joee 12:33 AM - 26 November, 2013
WHAT?

dude…..zxa5 is in another league when compared to the dxr

i'll make it simple, if money is a issue get the dxr, if not get the zxa5
Al Poulin 12:38 AM - 26 November, 2013
He's talking about DSR, not DXR. The DSR is in the same league as the ZX5A IMO. The ZX5A might get a little louder (because of its lack of a limiter), but honestly, the DSR115 take a hell of a lot to get into limitinh and I would prefer to have the protection and better processing the DSR offers - not to mention the 7 year warranty. As for bass response, both speakers have extremely high quality, extremely high output 15s so any difference in low frequency performance will be minimal IMO. Both speakers are top notch performers at the upper end of MI gear.

Al
Joee 12:42 AM - 26 November, 2013
lol…….i was just about to post the dsr15 as a competitor for the zxa5, i didn't see he was asking about the dsr…..i assumed dxr cause thats what everyone talks about


usa.yamaha.com
Joee 12:43 AM - 26 November, 2013
^ too many beers so i saw dxr……lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 12:46 AM - 26 November, 2013
Yea trying to decide between DSR and ZXA. Tough choice! Not sure what I wanna do!
Joee 1:05 AM - 26 November, 2013
the dsr seems like a contender (on paper) for the zxa5……but i have no experience with it to say

i can say the the highs on the dxr do not come close to that of the zxa5 the bass on the dxr is weaker than the zxa5 also

it's going to be hard to find a place to do a side buy side with the zx/dsr …tough choice indeed my friend
Joee 1:07 AM - 26 November, 2013
a little help, the ev is closer the the rcf in terms of clarity/less harsh top end
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:00 AM - 26 November, 2013
Yea no one around my way has either for me to listen to so I really am just going off recommendations.
the_black_one 8:50 AM - 26 November, 2013
Ev



Nm nh
Dj Nyce 12:55 PM - 26 November, 2013
even without seeing or hearing the yamaha i would go with the ev zxa5. never in my entire career of dj'ing have i found one piece of equipment that so many other real world users agree on aside from technics. and its the zxa5.

if you have the money, get it. you'll never be wondering if there is a better powered 15" loudspeaker out there.
DJ GaFFle 3:06 PM - 26 November, 2013
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if you have the money, get it. you'll never be wondering if there is a better powered 15" loudspeaker out there.

Sort of true but get an external limiter or know the speakers limits... and DO NOT rent or loan this speaker out.
djaction 3:14 PM - 26 November, 2013
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if you have the money, get it. you'll never be wondering if there is a better powered 15" loudspeaker out there.

Sort of true but get an external limiter or know the speakers limits... and DO NOT rent or loan this speaker out.


can you recommend a good external limiter for the zxa5?
DjCity 3:20 PM - 26 November, 2013
Tracking...
DjCity 3:22 PM - 26 November, 2013
Ate there Yorkville tops out there that compare? I'm thinking of getting the bottoms... the ls801's
DjCity 3:28 PM - 26 November, 2013
Damn auto spell...
Are there a set of Yorkville tops that compare to the DSR's or the ZXA5's?

The Yorkville is just about the best sub out there. It IS the best hands down in is price range.

What's the best tops to go with them?
the_black_one 4:00 PM - 26 November, 2013
Drive rack pa or Px wil do or just your standard eq and limiter compressor combo will do just fine for processing ... Heads up,
The drive racks are on special right now because the new model is coming out... Drive rack pa2.....


Nm nh
DJ GaFFle 4:52 PM - 26 November, 2013
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Damn auto spell...
Are there a set of Yorkville tops that compare to the DSR's or the ZXA5's?

I believe the Yorkville EF500P is somewhere in the running.

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The Yorkville is just about the best sub out there. It IS the best hands down in is price range.

What's the best tops to go with them?

Best in respect to loudness and boom. Not the best in true subwoofer sound quality or ease of mobility and weight.
JDforKing 5:19 PM - 26 November, 2013
Has anyone heard the yamaha dsr115? If not, please don't comment on how it compares to the ev zxa5.
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:26 PM - 26 November, 2013
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Damn auto spell...

Are there a set of Yorkville tops that compare to the DSR's or the ZXA5's?


I believe the Yorkville EF500P is somewhere in the running.



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The Yorkville is just about the best sub out there. It IS the best hands down in is price range.



What's the best tops to go with them?


Best in respect to loudness and boom. Not the best in true subwoofer sound quality or ease of mobility and weight.


I would agree the Yorkville EF500 would be in the running but those tops are like 80lbs each. No thank you!
Joee 5:28 PM - 26 November, 2013
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Has anyone heard the yamaha dsr115? If not, please don't comment on how it compares to the ev zxa5.


agreed, why i said this
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the dsr seems like a contender (on paper) for the zxa5……but i have no experience with it to say

i can say the the highs on the dxr do not come close to that of the zxa5 the bass on the dxr is weaker than the zxa5 also

it's going to be hard to find a place to do a side buy side with the zx/dsr …tough choice indeed my friend


there are a few speakers out that that look good on paper compared to the zxa5, but don't deliver, dsr could be the same………but the dxr sound good so maybe just maybe the dsr will be a competitor
djaction 5:34 PM - 26 November, 2013
yeah but is the driverack actually going to provide any limit protection?
djaction 5:35 PM - 26 November, 2013
dssr115 weighs 62lbs fwiw
JDforKing 5:39 PM - 26 November, 2013
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dssr115 weighs 62lbs fwiw


ev zxa5 50lbs

without hearing either speaker, the weight difference alone may make the ev's look like the winner lol
JDforKing 5:40 PM - 26 November, 2013
another speaker a person looking at these two may want to take a look at is the fbt promaxx14
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:50 PM - 26 November, 2013
Id rather have a 50lb cabinet to lug around each day than a 62lb. It's not a huge difference but when you have to bring them to every gig (even small 60ppl parties). The extra few lbs become a pain.
When you are lugging in a full rig with tvs, truss, lighting etcs...not a big deal but the smaller parties is where you like to have the lighter cabs.

Decisions!
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:52 PM - 26 November, 2013
Also...I would probably never use the full output of the ZXA where the lack of limiter would be a problem. I am coming from a pair of RCF312's...where they were just starting to not be enough. I figured if I am going to invest in a bigger rig, why not do it right and have the headroom "in case" there ever came a time I would need it.
Joee 6:23 PM - 26 November, 2013
buy them already…….the zxa5's sound great on there own for those time you don't want to bring a sub, crazy bass output for a 15 two way

that get your self two yorks and your set
pdidy 6:47 PM - 26 November, 2013
The DSR115 is too heavy so it looses by default.

The Battle should be fbt promaxx14 vs EV ZXA5.
Joee 7:09 PM - 26 November, 2013
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The DSR115 is too heavy so it looses by default.

The Battle should be fbt promaxx14 vs EV ZXA5.

this would be a good compromise between size/weight/output

the promaxx top is 38lbs & the sub is 56lbs……..i like the sound of carrying this system around, but has anyone ever heard the promaxx14a let alone the promaxx15sa?

www.fbt.it
Joee 7:11 PM - 26 November, 2013
heres the fbt speaker shoot out---> issuu.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:35 PM - 26 November, 2013
Never heard them before...and I absolutely hate the look of them tho. It would just bother me as stupid as that sounds! lol
pdidy 7:42 PM - 26 November, 2013
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Never heard them before...and I absolutely hate the look of them tho. It would just bother me as stupid as that sounds! lol

I agree they are ugly, so zxa5 it is.....
Joee 7:42 PM - 26 November, 2013
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Never heard them before...and I absolutely hate the look of them tho. It would just bother me as stupid as that sounds! lol

it's another italian made speaker, if the 3 rcf series is like a fiat the fbt would be like a ferrari
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:43 PM - 26 November, 2013
^^ Not saying it's not...I guess I just don't like the look of that particular Ferrari! :) lol
Joee 7:45 PM - 26 November, 2013
you can't go wrong with a ferrari, no matter how ugly……lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:47 PM - 26 November, 2013
haha true
Joee 7:48 PM - 26 November, 2013
ugly speaker? no problem get this---> www.ebay.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:49 PM - 26 November, 2013
Ugh! That's even worse!!
Joee 7:53 PM - 26 November, 2013
i think that speaker cover has it's place imagine a wedding were everything was white, than some black speakers sticking out everything in this pic looks good, except for the bands gear
blogs.dexknows.com
the_black_one 8:05 PM - 26 November, 2013
Drive rack had a limiter so yes...


Nm nh
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:21 PM - 26 November, 2013
Stupid me...I had a driverack a few years ago and sold it.
the_black_one 8:34 PM - 26 November, 2013
I would pick up the drive rack pa2... You can control it from your phone , computer, tablet all in real time... It's coming out early December .....


Nm nh
DJ GaFFle 12:14 AM - 27 November, 2013
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Never heard them before...and I absolutely hate the look of them tho. It would just bother me as stupid as that sounds! lol

Appearance makes a difference. Yes, they're ugly and they lose to me because of that.

(nm)
DJ NoNseNse 7:41 AM - 27 November, 2013
On paper it seems like the Jbl prx715 looks better then both of those unless I'm missing something
1500 watts
Max SPL- 136 db
47.5 lbs
dj_soo 8:31 AM - 27 November, 2013
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Damn auto spell...
Are there a set of Yorkville tops that compare to the DSR's or the ZXA5's?

I believe the Yorkville EF500P is somewhere in the running.

personally not a fan of those yorkville tops or most of them in general. Loud, but can be a bit muddy - haven't heard their newer high-end brand tho: yorkville.com
DJ GaFFle 8:37 AM - 27 November, 2013
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Damn auto spell...
Are there a set of Yorkville tops that compare to the DSR's or the ZXA5's?

I believe the Yorkville EF500P is somewhere in the running.

personally not a fan of those yorkville tops or most of them in general. Loud, but can be a bit muddy - haven't heard their newer high-end brand tho: yorkville.com

An Even Better Choice.
Joee 3:53 PM - 27 November, 2013
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On paper it seems like the Jbl prx715 looks better then both of those unless I'm missing something
1500 watts
Max SPL- 136 db
47.5 lbs

the prx715 comes nowhere near the performance of the zxa5…..on paper theres a few boxes that look to compete with the ev zxa5 but real world use, not even close
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:20 PM - 27 November, 2013
I think I'm leaning towards the ZXA over anything else at this point. Making my decision today and going to place an order so get in those last minute votes! lol

Again, hard to judge as I have no where around that has them to listen to. Just going by the feedback of real world users that I trust
Joee 4:25 PM - 27 November, 2013
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I think I'm leaning towards the ZXA over anything else at this point. Making my decision today and going to place an order so get in those last minute votes! lol

Again, hard to judge as I have no where around that has them to listen to. Just going by the feedback of real world users that I trust

STOP WASTING OUR TIME!……..GO GUY THE ZXA5……….lol

go buy them you know you want to, if you buy the yamaha and don't like them you will kick yourself and say i should have bought the ev

the ev is for you, you had rcf's, i have zxa5's just bought the rcf's and love them
Joee 4:26 PM - 27 November, 2013
GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5
Joee 4:26 PM - 27 November, 2013
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GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:44 PM - 27 November, 2013
lol
Joee 4:46 PM - 27 November, 2013
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GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5, GO BUY ZXA5
pdidy 7:05 PM - 27 November, 2013
the best price ive seen is at proaudiostar $1350. each. but you have to haggle like a boss ;)
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:13 PM - 27 November, 2013
I reached out to them already and that's the price they gave me but being in NY I gotta pay tax. I have someone else that will get me them for practically the same cost (less the tax)
pdidy 7:48 PM - 27 November, 2013
I'm from NYC so I no how to play the no tax game.
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:56 PM - 27 November, 2013
How? What do you do?
Joee 8:01 PM - 27 November, 2013
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How? What do you do?

i need this info also, one time i called in and asked if i went to pick it up could i get it cheaper no shipping cost, they said they would have to charge tax???????

i'm in philly, tax???????
lvmez 8:19 PM - 27 November, 2013
It's either shipping fees or tax. No way around it.
the_black_one 8:19 PM - 27 November, 2013
I have places match the price of a competitor with the tax included... I do this all the time at Sam ash and guitar center ...


NM NH
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:21 PM - 27 November, 2013
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How? What do you do?


i need this info also, one time i called in and asked if i went to pick it up could i get it cheaper no shipping cost, they said they would have to charge tax???????



i'm in philly, tax???????


Funny you say that.

I am going to get the Yorkvilles from them. They gave me a great price and even with tax it was cheaper because I am picking up and paying cash. So yea...sounds like it is either pay tax or pay shipping.
pdidy 8:46 PM - 27 November, 2013
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How? What do you do?

New Jersey ID or shipping address.
Certified Quality Entertainment 10:44 PM - 27 November, 2013
Just ordered the EVs!
the_black_one 11:01 PM - 27 November, 2013
Welcome to the club.... You just stepped up


Nm nh
Joee 11:07 PM - 27 November, 2013
yeaaaaa boy, you are now a man……..lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:46 PM - 27 November, 2013
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How? What do you do?


New Jersey ID or shipping address.


:-)
pdidy 12:08 AM - 28 November, 2013
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Just ordered the EVs!

Ok I think we covered you must have a compressor/limiter, do you have a line mixer ?
You want to feed it a hot but clean (no red) signal when you need to go loud.
dj_soo 12:13 AM - 28 November, 2013
y'all are making me want to get some ZXA5s now. Too bad I don't have anywhere near the room in my car to transport those with adequate subs...
Certified Quality Entertainment 12:32 AM - 28 November, 2013
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Just ordered the EVs!

Ok I think we covered you must have a compressor/limiter, do you have a line mixer ?
You want to feed it a hot but clean (no red) signal when you need to go loud.


I will be running straight from my DDJ SX. No limiter yet. I will prob get one soon enough. I know for a fact I don't need the full output or would get near clipping on these with the current parties I do. I just needed a little more than I had so I don't think I will have a problem. I just wanted to have the extra headroom if/when I would need it

Question tho. Where do you keep the gains on the back speakers? I will be picking up 1 ls801p in the upcoming weeks to go with the EVs. Eventually probably get a 2nd

I always stay in the green when playing. No red on master output or on channel outputs so I think I'll be in good shape
pdidy 12:56 AM - 28 November, 2013
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Question tho. Where do you keep the gains on the back speakers?

I personally always run my speak gains at Unity, 0, 12'oclock.....

But in your particular setup you will quickly realize you will have to back off the zxa5s a lot. You wont be able to run them at unity without some type of level control like a line mixer or a booth out for example. Until then, run the subs at unity and the zxa5s gain very low.....Probably below 9oclock to get a balanced sound.
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:02 AM - 28 November, 2013
The SX has a booth output. So when I run the yorkville I will plug that into the booth and the EVs to the master. But from what u guys say just 1 yorkville is no where near enough to keep up with them anyway.

So I will balance out the sound based on the sub output and go from there. Like I said I prob won't need to go full out on the EVs for quite some time anyway
pdidy 1:04 AM - 28 November, 2013
For stand alone full range use with no subs, set to unity. There's no point in backing off the gains.
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:06 AM - 28 November, 2013
Gotcha. Thanks. Already got my shipping confirmation on them!!
Joee 1:17 AM - 28 November, 2013
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Gotcha. Thanks. Already got my shipping confirmation on them!!

christmas coming early!!!!!!!!!!!!!………mommy mommy santa brought me zxa5's


that gonna be you on the day of delivery ………..LOL
Dj Nyce 1:52 AM - 28 November, 2013
we need to start a zxa5 club
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:10 AM - 28 November, 2013
Lol
DJ NoNseNse 4:33 AM - 28 November, 2013
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On paper it seems like the Jbl prx715 looks better then both of those unless I'm missing something
1500 watts
Max SPL- 136 db
47.5 lbs

the prx715 comes nowhere near the performance of the zxa5…..on paper theres a few boxes that look to compete with the ev zxa5 but real world use, not even close


Are you speaking from experience or from what other people said?
pdidy 4:57 AM - 28 November, 2013
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On paper it seems like the Jbl prx715 looks better then both of those unless I'm missing something

1500 watts

Max SPL- 136 db

47.5 lbs


the prx715 comes nowhere near the performance of the zxa5…..on paper theres a few boxes that look to compete with the ev zxa5 but real world use, not even close




Are you speaking from experience or from what other people said?

For me its experience.....And unfortunately 95% of the specs in the "DJ speaker" price range are complete lies but they call it "Marketing" because everybody does it....

Speaker that can truly out preform the ev zxa5 are generally in the area of $3000ea.
Joee 12:33 PM - 28 November, 2013
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On paper it seems like the Jbl prx715 looks better then both of those unless I'm missing something
1500 watts
Max SPL- 136 db
47.5 lbs

the prx715 comes nowhere near the performance of the zxa5…..on paper theres a few boxes that look to compete with the ev zxa5 but real world use, not even close


Are you speaking from experience or from what other people said?

i own zxa5's
Joee 12:39 PM - 28 November, 2013
father & son-----> imageshack.com son has been sold
DJ Tracktion 6:44 PM - 1 December, 2013
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Just ordered the EVs!


When you get them can I do a gig with you to experience them?? :)
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:46 PM - 2 December, 2013
lol sure why not!!
Joee 2:49 PM - 2 December, 2013
you mean you don't have them yet? i do nanananaaaananana

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father & son-----> imageshack.com son has been sold

……..LOL couldn't resist
Joee 2:49 PM - 2 December, 2013
when are they coming in?
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:01 PM - 2 December, 2013
LOL

They are delivering Friday.
I ordered them Wednesday and I got the shipping confirmation Wednesday too, but I figured not too much happened over the Holiday weekend. Plus they are coming from CA and I live in NY so they have to travel across the country.

I have to do the FedEx ship to facility though b/c they are signature required and no one will be home to sign for them...so I have them shipped to a local FedEx store and go pick them up.

I'm not taking any gigs until the end of January so I won't be able to really push them until then. I will of course test them out at home but obviously only so loud I can go there! My son is being born in the next few weeks so I took off a few months of parties for it. I figured that was a good time to redo my audio when I'm not rushed to have things up and running in between gigs.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:02 PM - 2 December, 2013
Just ordered my Tuki covers yesterday for them as well!
Joee 3:07 PM - 2 December, 2013
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Just ordered my Tuki covers yesterday for them as well!

good idea ,you don't want to scratch them, you won't really be able to hear them right at home……..when you get into a big open space, watch out…..your gonna turn into black rob & be like "WHOA"
DJ GaFFle 3:11 PM - 2 December, 2013
Congrats on the new son CQE.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:19 PM - 2 December, 2013
lol

Thanks Gaffle. It's our first. He is due Jan 7th but I have a feeling he will be coming a little early.
Hoping before the new year so I can get my tax deduction!! lol Help pay for some of the time that my wife is on Maternity leave.
Joee 9:40 PM - 2 December, 2013
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lol

Thanks Gaffle. It's our first. He is due Jan 7th but I have a feeling he will be coming a little early.
Hoping before the new year so I can get my tax deduction!! lol Help pay for some of the time that my wife is on Maternity leave.

i just want to know when are you going to be the happiest? when you baby comes? or when your babies (zxa5) come……..lol

on another note there is a lot of talk that the york is the best sub for them, you might want to look at these also a little lighter & smaller-----> www.kpodj.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 10:12 PM - 2 December, 2013
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Thanks Gaffle. It's our first. He is due Jan 7th but I have a feeling he will be coming a little early.

Hoping before the new year so I can get my tax deduction!! lol Help pay for some of the time that my wife is on Maternity leave.


i just want to know when are you going to be the happiest? when you baby comes? or when your babies (zxa5) come……..lol



on another note there is a lot of talk that the york is the best sub for them, you might want to look at these also a little lighter & smaller-----> www.kpodj.com


LOL

As happy as I will be when my babies arrive, I think my son might just tip the scales a little in his favor! lol

As far as the sub goes, that's a more on the expensive side than where I want to be, plus I don't think it will get nearly as loud as the yorkvilles will. I have the space in my van for the Yorkville so transporting isn't really a problem space wise. And the gigs that I will need to use them for I will always have another person there that can help me get it in and out of the van. Smaller parties on my own will be in smaller rooms that I will just use the ZXAs by themselves in full range.
I am going to be picking the Yorkville up at Pro Audio star. Gave me a good price on the PB verison if I pick it up and pay cash. Even with tax still comes in about $100 lower than my other vendor.
Joee 10:32 PM - 2 December, 2013
the price of $5,700 is for two zxa5 & two rcf subs, those subs can be found for the same price as the yorks, just threw it out there for you to see there calling it the ultimate dj system
Joee 10:33 PM - 2 December, 2013
^ $5,700, i think is a great deal for the system you get
Certified Quality Entertainment 10:42 PM - 2 December, 2013
I agree it's a great system, no doubt.
I would be about $500 cheaper buying 2 yorkvilles

Plus as an added plus, a guy that I do a ton of work for has 2 yorkvilles himself...so in the event a huge party comes up we can scale it to have 4 yorkvilles if needed.

I would probably need all 4 if I was running the ZXA5s at full output anyway! lol
the_black_one 11:15 PM - 2 December, 2013
1 ev. You need 3 yorks if playing heavy bass music with club levels

Nm nh
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:22 PM - 3 December, 2013
Delivering tomorrow...moved up from Friday.

Actually have to pick them up at the FedEx store but still a few days earlier than I originally thought!
I will make sure to take pictures when I get them open.
Joee 2:38 PM - 3 December, 2013
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Delivering tomorrow...moved up from Friday.

Actually have to pick them up at the FedEx store but still a few days earlier than I originally thought!
I will make sure to take pictures when I get them open.

no, take pictures of your cheesy ear to ear smile when you get them & post those i'm sure they'll be more entertaining……….lol

and one more thing, you know how dog's get happy and pee, don't wet your paints when your first heart them, some of these might help-----> www.totalhomecaresupplies.com


LMAO……...
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:49 PM - 3 December, 2013
LOL too funny.

I'm just pissed I don't have any parties coming up I can use them on. Won't be gigging again until February.
Taipanic 3:38 PM - 3 December, 2013
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Question tho. Where do you keep the gains on the back speakers? I will be picking up 1 ls801p in the upcoming weeks to go with the EVs. Eventually probably get a 2nd

I always stay in the green when playing. No red on master output or on channel outputs so I think I'll be in good shape


I have been running my ZXa5s full range at -12db with one Yorkville LS800p set to deep and volume at Unity. It has been good for 150 people on a small dance floor with decent bass.
Be careful when running the EVs at full range though, even with the gains turned down, heavy bass can overdrive the woofers without a limiter/compressor in the mix.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:54 PM - 3 December, 2013
You shouldn't be running your tops full range if you have a sub.
I wouldn't be expecting to get deep heavy bass with just the EVs. I would use them by themselves without a sub for parties less than 100. More like 75-80 ppl which would be in a smaller room anyway.
Joee 3:56 PM - 3 December, 2013
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You shouldn't be running your tops full range if you have a sub.
I wouldn't be expecting to get deep heavy bass with just the EVs. I would use them by themselves without a sub for parties less than 100. More like 75-80 ppl which would be in a smaller room anyway.

que smile!……..the zxa5 when used stand alone/full range sound/feel as if you had a sub woofer

i've used them stand alone for 200 people without breaking a sweat
Joee 3:58 PM - 3 December, 2013
CQE------> teenink.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:58 PM - 3 December, 2013
Exactly...and I think 2 EVs with a Yorkville can handle more than 150 with a medium to large dance floor.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:59 PM - 3 December, 2013
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CQE------> teenink.com


lolol I'm so going to do a picture like that with the EVs when I get them!
JDforKing 5:18 PM - 3 December, 2013
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You shouldn't be running your tops full range if you have a sub.
I wouldn't be expecting to get deep heavy bass with just the EVs. I would use them by themselves without a sub for parties less than 100. More like 75-80 ppl which would be in a smaller room anyway.

que smile!……..the zxa5 when used stand alone/full range sound/feel as if you had a sub woofer

i've used them stand alone for 200 people without breaking a sweat


So would you say that the zxa5s as a stand alone has more bass output than your current rcf set up or your old zxa1 top and sub combo? I know they zxa5 is superior when it comes to loudness and overall output but im curious about the bass output. I've always been a firm believer that nothing beats having a designated sub.
Joee 5:32 PM - 3 December, 2013
^ correct nothing beats having a sub, when a say they sound like you have a sub that doesn't meant they shake down the walls…..like pdidy said it sounds like you have a small sub woofer…….they have bass i have ever felt from a 15 two-way

sound better than rcf/zx? i don't think so no top box will sound better than a top/sub combo imo, but if you don't want to carry subs around zxa5 is (from all the speakers I've hear in that $1,300 price) the best money can buy imo


stop asking so many questions & buy a pair……..lol, i know you like the yamaha dxr line, the zxa5 blows away the dxr15
JDforKing 5:37 PM - 3 December, 2013
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^ correct nothing beats having a sub, when a say they sound like you have a sub that doesn't meant they shake down the walls…..like pdidy said it sounds like you have a small sub woofer…….they have bass i have ever felt from a 15 two-way

sound better than rcf/zx? i don't think so no top box will sound better than a top/sub combo imo, but if you don't want to carry subs around zxa5 is (from all the speakers I've hear in that $1,300 price) the best money can buy imo


stop asking so many questions & buy a pair……..lol, i know you like the yamaha dxr line, the zxa5 blows away the dxr15


lol lol joe, i have to make sure im getting the best bang for my buck. Its very hard for me to wrap my head around paying $2600 for tops where the money could be better spent on a system that includes subs and tops. I also don't get a chance to do many parties with more than 200 people. I work in clubs during the week, and most of my mobile gigs are weddings in small venues.

I'm definitely not comparing the dxr15 to the ev zxa5, they aren't in the same league.
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:53 PM - 3 December, 2013
Just do it!! I did! :) lol
Joee 6:02 PM - 3 December, 2013
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Just do it!! I did! :) lol

no no…….wait till you get them review them and then tell him do it
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:24 PM - 3 December, 2013
lol good point.

They actually got dropped off at the FedEx store today, but I don't think I will have time to pick them up today! :(
the_black_one 6:26 PM - 3 December, 2013
Do yours self a favor and go pick up the new driverack pa2... It has a preset for them EV tops... Money well spent... Thank me later


Nm nh
Joee 6:29 PM - 3 December, 2013
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Do yours self a favor and go pick up the new driverack pa2... It has a preset for them EV tops... Money well spent... Thank me later


Nm nh

if i would have had one this would not have happened ---> serato.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:25 PM - 4 December, 2013
Picking them up today after work!! :)
DJ GaFFle 11:16 PM - 4 December, 2013
I Hope They Packed TheM Well.
Certified Quality Entertainment 11:30 PM - 4 December, 2013
Hope so. Let u know shortly. Haven't left work yet
Joee 11:36 PM - 4 December, 2013
he want's to leave work solo bad right now, i bet he keep looking at his watch so it's making the day seem longer…….lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:26 AM - 5 December, 2013
Lol. So only 1 delivered. Stupid fedex. Other is delivering tomorrow. So I have 1. Gotta get the 2nd after work tomorrow.

I won't be able to test them out till Saturday tho
pdidy 2:02 AM - 5 December, 2013
Dont forget to make jumper cables or spare power plugs with the extra power cords and white neutrik plug.
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:09 AM - 5 December, 2013
Yea I was def going to do that. I was probably going to make 1 jumper and 1 extra power cable

For smaller gigs I usually have little led lights I put on my speaker stands. I may make those as white powercon too so I can just plug them in nice and easy without running extra cables
pdidy 2:13 AM - 5 December, 2013
am i the only one that uses all the spare parts that come with the zxa5

Watchwww.youtube.com
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Certified Quality Entertainment 2:20 AM - 5 December, 2013
It came with the spare parts to make a jumper?? It wasn't in the pouch in the one I got today. Just the pre made power cord
the_black_one 3:08 AM - 5 December, 2013
They come pre made.... You have to buy the parts to make extra

Nm nh
pdidy 3:21 AM - 5 December, 2013
My zxa5s came with the spare european powercon and the grey neutrik plug which i can convert into a jumper or bacis neutrik power cord.
i26.photobucket.com
i26.photobucket.com

Did everybody else only get the neutrik power cord ?
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:28 AM - 5 December, 2013
That didn't come with mine. Just the regular powercon cable. Nothing extra
the_black_one 4:50 AM - 5 December, 2013
i have bought a total of 4 Zxa5

they all came with pre made cords ... no spare parts .... i bought the parts and made jumpers

NM nh
Joee 12:21 PM - 5 December, 2013
mines did not come with the extra connector/wire
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:46 PM - 5 December, 2013
Real quick...

With "just" 2 Zxa5's, how many people / how large of a room will they accomodate and give a REALLY GOOD punch?
Joee 12:55 PM - 5 December, 2013
2 / 300…no problem maybe more
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:24 PM - 5 December, 2013
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2 / 300…no problem maybe more


Did you mean 200 - 300 or 2 speakers for 300 people....
Joee 1:32 PM - 5 December, 2013
200 to 300 people……no sweat
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:38 PM - 5 December, 2013
100 extra people is a BIG gap....but I get you....

Thanks!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:39 PM - 5 December, 2013
Even from a "low end/bass" perspective? 200-300?

Pdidy? :-)
Joee 2:13 PM - 5 December, 2013
i'm not talking Playing reggae (bass heavy) all night now
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:52 PM - 5 December, 2013
That's still nuts though to do a 200 person party with good punch, loud volume. Obviously not shaking the ground, but for a wedding will probably be fine.

With the high pass on the tops you can probably do 500 ppl I would assume.
Joee 2:59 PM - 5 December, 2013
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That's still nuts though to do a 200 person party with good punch, loud volume. Obviously not shaking the ground, but for a wedding will probably be fine.

With the high pass on the tops you can probably do 500 ppl I would assume.

you will soon know first hand my friend ,keep looking at the time tic buy till you can go home to listen, it's going to be a loooonng day……lol
pdidy 4:27 PM - 5 December, 2013
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Even from a "low end/bass" perspective? 200-300?

Pdidy? :-)

The answer is subjective and will vary from person to person but let me give you a real life example. I gave a Grown an Sexy Party in a large Hall with a Capacity of 500. I did a sound check and the promoter who is a dj walks over to me and says "WOW, that sounds Perfect", I laugh an say Really......He asks me why am i Laughing, I say "because I have not turned on the subs yet.......He says GTFOH so I turn the 2 yorkville 801 subs on an he said Oh Shit.....

The zxa5s can provide a Loud but balanced tone in full range through out a large venue even without a true sub.
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:43 PM - 5 December, 2013
So excited I got these!! lol

I'm probably going to be working late today too so I won't even be able to listen to them until Saturday afternoon.

I'm going to the Knick game after work tomorrow so that's out too.
Joee 4:55 PM - 5 December, 2013
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Even from a "low end/bass" perspective? 200-300?

Pdidy? :-)

The answer is subjective and will vary from person to person but let me give you a real life example. I gave a Grown an Sexy Party in a large Hall with a Capacity of 500. I did a sound check and the promoter who is a dj walks over to me and says "WOW, that sounds Perfect", I laugh an say Really......He asks me why am i Laughing, I say "because I have not turned on the subs yet.......He says GTFOH so I turn the 2 yorkville 801 subs on an he said Oh Shit.....

The zxa5s can provide a Loud but balanced tone in full range through out a large venue even without a true sub.

BAMMMM! next time i tell you! listen son! i know my shit son!

thank you pididy, people just don't beleave these boxes are capable of such a feet, yes they are honestly i would feel comfortable doing a 500 person party, but i do play mostly latin so not as taxing to the system…..until reggaton time than i'd worry
Joee 4:56 PM - 5 December, 2013
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So excited I got these!! lol

I'm probably going to be working late today too so I won't even be able to listen to them until Saturday afternoon.

I'm going to the Knick game after work tomorrow so that's out too.

this has to suck, waiting to get them now have them & still have to wait to hear them
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:49 PM - 5 December, 2013
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So excited I got these!! lol



I'm probably going to be working late today too so I won't even be able to listen to them until Saturday afternoon.



I'm going to the Knick game after work tomorrow so that's out too.


this has to suck, waiting to get them now have them & still have to wait to hear them


Totally does!
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:50 PM - 5 December, 2013
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Even from a "low end/bass" perspective? 200-300?



Pdidy? :-)


The answer is subjective and will vary from person to person but let me give you a real life example. I gave a Grown an Sexy Party in a large Hall with a Capacity of 500. I did a sound check and the promoter who is a dj walks over to me and says "WOW, that sounds Perfect", I laugh an say Really......He asks me why am i Laughing, I say "because I have not turned on the subs yet.......He says GTFOH so I turn the 2 yorkville 801 subs on an he said Oh Shit.....



The zxa5s can provide a Loud but balanced tone in full range through out a large venue even without a true sub.


BAMMMM! next time i tell you! listen son! i know my shit son!



thank you pididy, people just don't beleave these boxes are capable of such a feet, yes they are honestly i would feel comfortable doing a 500 person party, but i do play mostly latin so not as taxing to the system…..until reggaton time than i'd worry


Feel comfortable doing the 500 on full range or hi passed?
Joee 5:52 PM - 5 December, 2013
full range, if not play music with heavy bass
Dj Nyce 6:24 PM - 5 December, 2013
i did an awards dinner. just play music while people are walking in and between segments. complete overkill because there was an av company there already doing pa and video. hey easy money.

because of the layout of the venue i could only wire up one. the av companyhad a full setup.

during sound check i threw on some dave brubeck and the av guys where asking where i put the other 3 speakers.

this ballroom could hold 1,000 people easy and one speaker had stage left and stage center covered. but because of the shape of the room stage right couldn't get coverage but you could still hear it and at low volume, which the event called for, you couldn't even tell i was running one speaker.

zxa5 ftw
djaction 6:28 PM - 5 December, 2013
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i did an awards dinner. just play music while people are walking in and between segments. complete overkill because there was an av company there already doing pa and video. hey easy money.

because of the layout of the venue i could only wire up one. the av companyhad a full setup.

during sound check i threw on some dave brubeck and the av guys where asking where i put the other 3 speakers.

this ballroom could hold 1,000 people easy and one speaker had stage left and stage center covered. but because of the shape of the room stage right couldn't get coverage but you could still hear it and at low volume, which the event called for, you couldn't even tell i was running one speaker.

zxa5 ftw


were you using the 60 or 90 degree cab?
dj_soo 7:28 PM - 5 December, 2013
buddy of mine wants me to help him build a sound system for his business and I was going to recommend the ZXA5s as his tops. I hear you guys saying you need at least 3 LS801ps to keep up with 2 of the ZXAs. The problem with the LS are of course the size and weight.

How many JBL VRX918Ps would you think you would need to keep up? 4?
Joee 7:32 PM - 5 December, 2013
^ 4 to 6 at least
Joee 7:32 PM - 5 December, 2013
^ for 2 zxa5
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:45 PM - 5 December, 2013
And it's not like you "need" them. I am only getting 1 Yorkville to start and I will probably only get a 2nd and no more. So you just have to adjust the tops to match the output of the subs.

And 2 yorks will get very loud so you will still have a kick ass loud system even without using the EVs to their full potential.

Also keep in mind that 4 VRX subs will probably be more twice as expensive as only 2 Yorks...give or take.
Joee 8:01 PM - 5 December, 2013
^ this right here , you probably won't ever need to play those ev's at full volume the vrx should only be considered if you need a sub that you can move buy yourself, otherwise the york is probably a better option & will cost less while giving you that hard hit your chest bass while being loud at the same time
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:11 PM - 5 December, 2013
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BAMMMM! next time i tell you! listen son! i know my shit son!

thank you pididy, people just don't beleave these boxes are capable of such a feet,



LMAO! it's not like I didn't "Believe" you, but I always get a second opinion, and Pdidy seems to apprecate the fact that you can't have too much bass. :-)

It's just like how I am with the PANKS....
pdidy 8:23 PM - 5 December, 2013
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buddy of mine wants me to help him build a sound system for his business and I was going to recommend the ZXA5s as his tops. I hear you guys saying you need at least 3 LS801ps to keep up with 2 of the ZXAs. The problem with the LS are of course the size and weight.

How many JBL VRX918Ps would you think you would need to keep up? 4?

When you own zxa5s you have to accept the fact that theres no sub that will match it and keep up with it. You simply tame the zxa5 by turning it down to match any sub you're using.

That being said, I own both the zxa5 and the Vrx918sp and have tested i26.photobucket.com to determine how many are required. Depending on your ear for sound, it will take approximately 3-4 jbl Vrx918s to keep up with 1 ev zxa5. My preference is 4 to 1 ratio.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:28 PM - 5 December, 2013
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My preference is 4 to 1 ratio.


This is what I'm talking about...

BTW, you have subs in your kitchen man....

LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Joee 8:33 PM - 5 December, 2013
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buddy of mine wants me to help him build a sound system for his business and I was going to recommend the ZXA5s as his tops. I hear you guys saying you need at least 3 LS801ps to keep up with 2 of the ZXAs. The problem with the LS are of course the size and weight.

How many JBL VRX918Ps would you think you would need to keep up? 4?

When you own zxa5s you have to accept the fact that theres no sub that will match it and keep up with it. You simply tame the zxa5 by turning it down to match any sub you're using.

That being said, I own both the zxa5 and the Vrx918sp and have tested i26.photobucket.com to determine how many are required. Depending on your ear for sound, it will take approximately 3-4 jbl Vrx918s to keep up with 1 ev zxa5. My preference is 4 to 1 ratio.

you opinion on ratio does not count, you want the kind of bass that shakes your internal organs……..lol
Joee 8:34 PM - 5 December, 2013
…..lol, i think real world use most people will be happy with 4 subs for 2 ev's
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:35 PM - 5 December, 2013
lol
I was going to say. 2 Yorks or 4 VRXs would probably be sufficient for most.
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:36 PM - 5 December, 2013
Is this day over yet!!! lol

My Tuki covers are delivering Saturday too..so i'm excited about that! I ordered 1 cover for the Yorkville sub too. I won't be picking that up until January (just spreading cost out over the years) but ordered it now to save on some shipping.
pdidy 8:47 PM - 5 December, 2013
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…..lol, i think real world use most people will be happy with 4 subs for 2 ev's

This is TRUE because in the REAL world I only use 4 vrx subs and turn my 2 zxa5s down to match them. I would need 8 vrx subs to achieve "my preference" which is not gonna happen.....lol
pdidy 8:51 PM - 5 December, 2013
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lol
I was going to say. 2 Yorks or 4 VRXs would probably be sufficient for most.

exactly
Joee 9:06 PM - 5 December, 2013
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. I would need 8 vrx subs to achieve "my preference" which is not gonna happen.....lol

un hu…..this is hat you say but by the looks of it you still have room in your kitchen for some more…….lol
Joee 9:07 PM - 5 December, 2013
the vrxs are so portable, you could put them anyware …….lol
dj_soo 7:48 AM - 6 December, 2013
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Depending on your ear for sound, it will take approximately 3-4 jbl Vrx918s to keep up with 1 ev zxa5. My preference is 4 to 1 ratio.


that just sounds ridiculous to me for a powered two-way 15" speaker.

I really need to hear some of these for myself...
pdidy 9:26 AM - 6 December, 2013
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Depending on your ear for sound, it will take approximately 3-4 jbl Vrx918s to keep up with 1 ev zxa5. My preference is 4 to 1 ratio.


that just sounds ridiculous to me for a powered two-way 15" speaker.

I really need to hear some of these for myself...

i get it, alot of people have a hard time wrapping their heads around a small top of average weight that can put out in many cases twice the output of the speakers they are used to using. But this speaker is NOT like any speaker most djs use, own or hear because its a step above in a different league.

There's nothing so special about a zxa5 because there are many speaker that are louder and of higher quality but most djs like us simply can not afford them.
Joee 11:58 AM - 6 December, 2013
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Depending on your ear for sound, it will take approximately 3-4 jbl Vrx918s to keep up with 1 ev zxa5. My preference is 4 to 1 ratio.


that just sounds ridiculous to me for a powered two-way 15" speaker.

I really need to hear some of these for myself...

i get it, alot of people have a hard time wrapping their heads around a small top of average weight that can put out in many cases twice the output of the speakers they are used to using. But this speaker is NOT like any speaker most djs use, own or hear because its a step above in a different league.

There's nothing so special about a zxa5 because there are many speaker that are louder and of higher quality but most djs like us simply can not afford them.

+1
Dj Nyce 2:47 PM - 6 December, 2013
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Depending on your ear for sound, it will take approximately 3-4 jbl Vrx918s to keep up with 1 ev zxa5. My preference is 4 to 1 ratio.


that just sounds ridiculous to me for a powered two-way 15" speaker.

I really need to hear some of these for myself...


Soo i was saying the same thing until i heard a pair.
dj_soo 12:01 AM - 7 December, 2013
would you guys recommend the 60 or the 90 and why?
Joee 12:06 AM - 7 December, 2013
90……the 60 is if you want to put the right next to each other (side by side)
Al Poulin 12:27 AM - 7 December, 2013
Yep. 60 degree if you plan on arraying a couple of cabs per side. It helps mimimize comb filtering. 90 degree If you only use a pair at a time and want better (wider) overall dispersion.

Al
the_black_one 12:32 AM - 7 December, 2013
if you stack the 90's then your fine.

NM NH
pdidy 7:20 AM - 7 December, 2013
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would you guys recommend the 60 or the 90 and why?

most dj will buy the 90's because they only need/want the output of 1 speaker per side. People who need the 60's require very high output and use 2 speakers per side.

In most cases for dj use, a pair of 90's can easily handle 500 people. I recommend the 60's for djs who regularly do 500-1000 people indoors and need 2 speakers per side.
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:43 PM - 7 December, 2013
Ok. So I just had a chance to turn on the speakers. Very very impressed. I just had one on at a time in my garage plugged directly into an iPod. Which I know is not the best way to test burin was lazy and didn't feel like hooking everything up. Anyway I played a mix I had on there and I really couldn't go past in between -12 and -6 because I felt like I was going to be pissing off my neighbors too much. When it was on I went across the street (about 40ft or so and it sounds like the vocals were right in front of me. I could from there my neighbors would have easily heard it inside their houses which is why I didn't want to go any higher than that. My tuki bags came today too which for the perfectly and will provide excellent protection during transport. I just can't wait for a place where I can really open them up bc there is absolutely no way I could do that at home without having ppl at my door. In addition it would just be too loud in a confined space
JDforKing 9:03 PM - 7 December, 2013
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Ok. So I just had a chance to turn on the speakers. Very very impressed. I just had one on at a time in my garage plugged directly into an iPod. Which I know is not the best way to test burin was lazy and didn't feel like hooking everything up. Anyway I played a mix I had on there and I really couldn't go past in between -12 and -6 because I felt like I was going to be pissing off my neighbors too much. When it was on I went across the street (about 40ft or so and it sounds like the vocals were right in front of me. I could from there my neighbors would have easily heard it inside their houses which is why I didn't want to go any higher than that. My tuki bags came today too which for the perfectly and will provide excellent protection during transport. I just can't wait for a place where I can really open them up bc there is absolutely no way I could do that at home without having ppl at my door. In addition it would just be too loud in a confined space


How did you feel about the bass response?
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:16 PM - 7 December, 2013
When I turned on the "bass booster" setting on the iPod eq it was great! But again I really couldn't get too loud bc it would be too much for my neighbors. If I have time at some point to bring them somewhere that I can properly test I would love that
DJ GaFFle 10:26 PM - 7 December, 2013
A/B them to another pair of your speakers. Like for like... if you're in a small room, be careful of boundaries like walls adversely affecting the comparison.
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:54 AM - 8 December, 2013
Yea. I still have 1 rcf I will compare it to. 1 to 1 but again don't have a good place to test other than my garage which isn't the best place to do it.
the_black_one 5:26 AM - 8 December, 2013
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Yea. I still have 1 rcf I will compare it to. 1 to 1 but again don't have a good place to test other than my garage which isn't the best place to do it.



if you can ... do it outside

NM NH
Maskrider 7:28 PM - 8 December, 2013
Now I want to buy one…..lol
Maskrider 7:35 PM - 8 December, 2013
Where can you get the Zxa5 cheaper it's like $1700 each….Did they just went up?
Joee 7:52 PM - 8 December, 2013
^ proaudiostar,kpodj
Rebelguy 10:22 PM - 8 December, 2013
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Where can you get the Zxa5 cheaper it's like $1700 each….Did they just went up?


$1375 if you know where to shop.
Maskrider 10:25 PM - 8 December, 2013
lol…Ok where is this $1375 price tag?
Certified Quality Entertainment 11:17 PM - 8 December, 2013
Yep! Paid under $2800 delivered to my door
the_black_one 11:28 PM - 8 December, 2013
Paid 1150 each...


Nm nh
JDforKing 11:42 PM - 8 December, 2013
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Paid 1150 each...


Nm nh


I need this hook up
Joee 11:57 PM - 8 December, 2013
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Paid 1150 each...


Nm nh

new? if so one hell of a deal
the_black_one 12:00 AM - 9 December, 2013
New


Nm nh
the_black_one 12:03 AM - 9 December, 2013
Why do u think I have 4.... I bought the first two at that price and the second pair I had guitar center price match ...


Nm nh
Joee 12:32 AM - 9 December, 2013
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Why do u think I have 4.... I bought the first two at that price and the second pair I had guitar center price match ...


Nm nh

4 damn, you lucky son of a Bit@h You
the_black_one 1:25 AM - 9 December, 2013
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Why do u think I have 4.... I bought the first two at that price and the second pair I had guitar center price match ...


Nm nh

4 damn, you lucky son of a Bit@h You



double bookings ... gotta keep the same level of product quality for my clients

NM NH
DJ GaFFle 1:52 AM - 9 December, 2013
Damn... we've had more ZXa5 converts than a little bit. Make a great product and they will come.

(nm)
Maskrider 2:23 AM - 9 December, 2013
Ok bust out the the coupons....lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:28 AM - 9 December, 2013
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Damn... we've had more ZXa5 converts than a little bit. Make a great product and they will come.

(nm)


Lol. Still looking for a good time to really test them out
Joee 3:08 AM - 9 December, 2013
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Damn... we've had more ZXa5 converts than a little bit. Make a great product and they will come.

(nm)

makes me wonder, the zxa5 is a little old already are they working on something new?
pdidy 3:38 AM - 9 December, 2013
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Damn... we've had more ZXa5 converts than a little bit. Make a great product and they will come.

(nm)

makes me wonder, the zxa5 is a little old already are they working on something new?

Probably not until another brand makes a competitive product in the same price point and weight. We could be waiting a very long time for that......
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:22 PM - 9 December, 2013
^ True. Think of how many new speaker lines EV has introduced since the ZX line without touching the ZX
pdidy 9:08 PM - 9 December, 2013
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^ True. Think of how many new speaker lines EV has introduced since the ZX line without touching the ZX

Right, nothin competes with the zxa5 so their takin the "if it ain't broke don't fix it " approach.
Joee 9:23 PM - 9 December, 2013
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^ True. Think of how many new speaker lines EV has introduced since the ZX line without touching the ZX

Right, nothin competes with the zxa5 so their takin the "if it ain't broke don't fix it " approach.

o it's broke alright & they do need to fix it buy adding a limiter
Joee 9:24 PM - 9 December, 2013
i do want a zxa3 tho
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:36 PM - 9 December, 2013
lol
the_black_one 9:56 PM - 9 December, 2013
personally .... i like how wide open it is (NM NH) ... i like setting my own compression/limiter. I keep going back to this ... If you know what your doing and is currently looking for the best 15 and a horn at that price range you cant go wrong ..... Now if your a regular guy and does not want to worry about compressing/ limiter then i will tell you to look for another option. To get the most out of the speaker i understand why they did not put a built in limiter.

Having the driverack had been very good to me but to be honest i still prefer the separate components on a rack and me turning physical knobs to get the most our of my rig. what i do love about the drive rack it the pink noise generator and how compact it is

NM NH
Joee 10:05 PM - 9 December, 2013
^ i spoke to ev and they said no limiter was no accident, the speaker was made this way so you could get the most out of it
DJ Dynamight 10:33 PM - 9 December, 2013
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i still prefer the separate components on a rack and me turning physical knobs to get the most our of my rig.


Word up. I just added 2 DriveRacks to my setup and I love how compact it is, and full of features, I do miss having physical knobs to tweak.
the_black_one 10:51 PM - 9 December, 2013
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i still prefer the separate components on a rack and me turning physical knobs to get the most our of my rig.


Word up. I just added 2 DriveRacks to my setup and I love how compact it is, and full of features, I do miss having physical knobs to tweak.



the new driverack pa2 is going to be a huge step ahead for folks like you and i..... you are going to be able to adjust real time with a computer,smart phone or tablet ... i cant wait to try it (NM NH)
DjCity 9:55 PM - 20 December, 2013
1500.00 for zxa5
1220.00 for Yorkville Ls801pb(wood finish)
two zxa5 and two yorkvilles
5440 plus tax

Good deal?
pdidy 10:09 PM - 20 December, 2013
zxa5=$1375
ls801p=$1100
plus tax @ proaudiostar
DjCity 10:12 PM - 20 December, 2013
That's Wuz up.

No tax 4 me cause I'm not uptop anymore.
DjCity 12:30 AM - 21 December, 2013
Just ordered two Yorkville LS801PB's and two EV ZXA5's
the_black_one 1:08 AM - 21 December, 2013
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Just ordered two Yorkville LS801PB's and two EV ZXA5's


steppin up

NM NH
DjCity 4:41 AM - 21 December, 2013
I can still change my order.
For subs which sounds better.

JBL VRX918SP or the Yorkville LS801PB?

I like the size of the JBL but I have heard the yorkies. Never heard the JBL's.

The ZXA5'S are a wrap. No second guessing on those but the size of the yorkvilles makes me think twice.

Pdidy... You have both right? What's the word on em.

Anyone else know what's up?
the_black_one 5:53 AM - 21 December, 2013
there is a big discussion about them subs ...


yorks = louder
jbl = deeper

1 york = 3 jbl
pdidy 9:56 AM - 21 December, 2013
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I can still change my order.
For subs which sounds better.

JBL VRX918SP or the Yorkville LS801PB?

I like the size of the JBL but I have heard the yorkies. Never heard the JBL's.

Check my york 801 vs jbl vrx918sp thread, its all explained in detail.

Ask your self, are you willing to pay $4500 for 3 jbl vrx918sp to compete against 2 yorkville ls801p costing $2200 ?

If you're not willing to pay that, it doesnt matter which sounds better ;)
pdidy 10:40 AM - 21 December, 2013
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The ZXA5'S are a wrap. No second guessing on those but the size of the yorkvilles makes me think twice.

Pdidy... You have both right? What's the word on em.


I wanted the ability to work alone (no rodie) if required for parties up to 400-500(your mileage may vary). This is the main reason I invested in 4 VRX918sp. So if you see size and weight possibly being an issue.....STOP now, be patient and save.

And yes the jbl's sound better but it comes at a steep price because they cant come close to competing against the yorks 1 to 1. It wasnt until i owned 3 vrx that the other djs began to appreciate the vrx as a solid substitute. 4 is the magic number and will make any yorkville owner want to switch because the deeper bass and sound quality becomes so obvious that even an Amateur will hear new bass tones they have never heard before on the yorks.
Joee 1:10 PM - 21 December, 2013
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I can still change my order.
For subs which sounds better.

JBL VRX918SP or the Yorkville LS801PB?

I like the size of the JBL but I have heard the yorkies. Never heard the JBL's.

Check my york 801 vs jbl vrx918sp thread, its all explained in detail.

Ask your self, are you willing to pay $4500 for 3 jbl vrx918sp to compete against 2 yorkville ls801p costing $2200 ?

If you're not willing to pay that, it doesnt matter which sounds better ;)

heres a good question, witch do you like better rcf 4PRO 8003-AS or vrx i think we spoke about it before but i don't remember ,i might be a compromise between the york & jbl
pdidy 1:47 PM - 21 December, 2013
I a/b the rcf 4PRO 8003-AS and vrx918sp side by side for a good 30 mins checking every detail. They are so close its hard to tell the difference but the 4PRO 8003-AS is a little louder while the vrx918sp goes lower.

Weight was truly the only deciding factor so VRX won by 23lbs
DjCity 5:16 PM - 21 December, 2013
1 yorkville = 2 jbl's?
Damn!

For real???

They both 1500 watts though I have not seen the actual specs of the JBL where I know that the yorkies are 1500 continuous.

Pdidy... post a link to your thread about them please.
I have till today to make my final choice.
Joee 5:22 PM - 21 December, 2013
the york is not 1500 watts continuous it's 15 program theres a difference…..
DjCity 5:25 PM - 21 December, 2013
This is straight from PSA

Product Description for the Yorkville LS801PB (Ultrathane Black) Powered Subwoofer (Formerly LS800P)

First choice in active subwoofers, the LS801P combines a cast-frame, neodymium-based 18-inch bass driver with a rear-loaded bass horn enclosure made from 15mm birch ply covered in rugged black carpeting (black Ultrathane painted version - LS801PB is also available). Now add 1,500 continuous Watts of onboard power featuring full-time "invisible" limiting. Result - a rugged, high-powered "earth mover." Balanced XLR inputs are included along with 1/4-inch TRS inputs which, at the push of a button, can handle either line-level or speaker-level signals (you can simply connect it to any full-range speaker for quick and easy setups).



Read more: www.proaudiostar.com
Joee 5:30 PM - 21 December, 2013
don't always be leave what you read look at the yorkvile website you will see the specs clearly say 1500watts program power witch means 700 or 750watts continuous ---> yorkville.com

pdidys review---> serato.com
Joee 5:32 PM - 21 December, 2013
another thing the amp may throw 1500 watts max, that doesn't mean that the speaker is getting all that power it's just head room for the amp
Joee 5:39 PM - 21 December, 2013
passive version---> yorkville.com
DjCity 5:39 PM - 21 December, 2013
Yeah.

I almost never believe what's listed because between program, continuous, rms and peak, it be some bullshit.

I know what the sound like real world.

The old Yamaha 115v,s were the last speaker I trusted as far as numbers were concerned.
Joee 5:44 PM - 21 December, 2013
if you look at the specs of the passive one you'll see it's a 700watt box



as to you witch one to get, if your looking for portability something you can move around buy your self the answer is simple the vrx is it
DjCity 5:47 PM - 21 December, 2013
I'm curious to know if the yorkvilles will fit in my truck.

I have a yukon denali (not the ext).

Right now I fit two kw181's with two ev zlx12's or two elx115p's along with my dj sx, x stand, 2 intimidator spot duo's and 8 pars.

Al this is with the second row up! No 3rd row. I can still fit 5 people in my truck with my equipment.

Can I fit at least 1 yorkville in like that?
Joee 5:49 PM - 21 December, 2013
have you considered just adding two more kw181, for a total of four to go with the zxa5's?

them kw181's are so easy to move around with the casters
Taipanic 9:02 PM - 21 December, 2013
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The ZXA5'S are a wrap. No second guessing on those but the size of the yorkvilles makes me think twice.

Pdidy... You have both right? What's the word on em.


I wanted the ability to work alone (no rodie) if required for parties up to 400-500(your mileage may vary). This is the main reason I invested in 4 VRX918sp. So if you see size and weight possibly being an issue.....STOP now, be patient and save.

And yes the jbl's sound better but it comes at a steep price because they cant come close to competing against the yorks 1 to 1. It wasnt until i owned 3 vrx that the other djs began to appreciate the vrx as a solid substitute. 4 is the magic number and will make any yorkville owner want to switch because the deeper bass and sound quality becomes so obvious that even an Amateur will hear new bass tones they have never heard before on the yorks.


Agree, the Yorkvilles offer the most bass for the money. They are boomy but deep enough and loud as hell. I have the LS801s because I wanted the best and most bass for under $2k a box. I will keep these until I am willing to spend $3-4k per box for a Danley TH118 or JTR Orbit setup, which are 2 steps above everything else listed here.
Dj Nyce 9:50 PM - 21 December, 2013
i have an escalade. with the 3rd row folded, i can get (1) ls801p in there. i can put (1) ev zxa5 back there and the other would have to go in the 2nd row.

you will have to remove the 3rd row seats and use the 2nd row to transport all the gear you listed.

now if i remove the 3rd row seats and fold the 2nd row seats i can fit (2) yorkies, (2) ev zxa5's, (2) stands, (1) mixer, (2) turntables and lights (8) slimpars. moving heads would be pushing it tho, especially in cases.

fyi, i currently rent the yorkies. i'm still on the fence about going with the vrx vs yorkies. i can afford the yorkies, but the vrx are more portable. if ams or zzounds sold the vrx, i would buy 2 in a heartbeat.
DjCity 10:16 PM - 21 December, 2013
Yeah Nyce.

I'm diggin you with the zzounds joint but not them or ams or Sweetwater carry them.

From what I can gather, the jbl's are good but not even close to a match for the yorkvilles. That's from me talking to my man at Chuck Levins (Washington Music Center)
he said I would be spending way more for way less.

I pulled my 3rd row seat out last year.
I like having a vehicle that can move people as well as equipment.

If I can fit one yorkie where the two kw181's would be, I'm happy!

Most of the time I will only need 1 yorkville. When I need both, second row will be folded down.
DjCity 10:18 PM - 21 December, 2013
Are there covers for the yorkvilles?
Covers for the zxa5's?

If so, please post the links.
Dj Nyce 10:21 PM - 21 December, 2013
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Are there covers for the yorkvilles?
Covers for the zxa5's?

If so, please post the links.


best covers are the tuki's. they have covers for both the ev's and the yorkies. they are excellent build quality and excellent padding. i got mine from ebay from tukicovers. the ebay store is slightly cheaper there than the website.

www.tukicovers.com
pdidy 10:54 PM - 21 December, 2013
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That's from me talking to my man at Chuck Levins (Washington Music Center)
he said I would be spending way more for way less.

This is true when your PRIORITY is Bang For Buck.
VS
This is false when your PRIORITY is Sound Quality.
DjCity 10:59 PM - 21 December, 2013
My priority is sound quality and quantity.

I have a driverack so I'm thinking I can get the most out of them.

For the price vs what you get, the Yorkvilles win.

I could get the same volume from the JBL'S and better sound but at a very substantial cost.

I'm just gonna have to make the yorkies work.
Joee 11:06 PM - 21 December, 2013
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I could get the same volume from the JBL'S and better sound but at a very substantial cost.


i would not concern myself with the $400 more the jbl cost, i would be more interested in saving my back & my balls……



you can't put a price on that, when you luging around the yorks you may find yourself wishing you had got the jbl…….
DjCity 11:09 PM - 21 December, 2013
I just might but buying 6 JBL's to match what 2 Yorkvills can do just did not add up to me. Not to mention the price difference.

If they get to be too much for me...
ROADIE..........
Get to work!!!
pdidy 11:14 PM - 21 December, 2013
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I just might but buying 6 JBL's to match what 2 Yorkvills can do just did not add up to me. Not to mention the price difference.

3-4 jbl vrx = 2 yorkville
pdidy 11:24 PM - 21 December, 2013
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you can't put a price on that, when you luging around the yorks you may find yourself wishing you had got the jbl…….

Quite often this is learned from experience.....If i would have known then what I no now, that would be all vrx subs in my sig......lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:13 AM - 22 December, 2013
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you can't put a price on that, when you luging around the yorks you may find yourself wishing you had got the jbl…….

Quite often this is learned from experience.....If i would have known then what I no now, that would be all vrx subs in my sig......lol


Again. If u have roadies and help gettin in and out the yorks are fine. They wheel around otherwise. Actually picking up my first next Saturday
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:15 AM - 22 December, 2013
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Are there covers for the yorkvilles?
Covers for the zxa5's?

If so, please post the links.


best covers are the tuki's. they have covers for both the ev's and the yorkies. they are excellent build quality and excellent padding. i got mine from ebay from tukicovers. the ebay store is slightly cheaper there than the website.

www.tukicovers.com


+1 on tuki. Just ordered the full zip ones for the EVs and a cover for the yorkville. Has a strap on the bottom well worth it
Dj Nyce 5:04 PM - 22 December, 2013
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Are there covers for the yorkvilles?
Covers for the zxa5's?

If so, please post the links.


best covers are the tuki's. they have covers for both the ev's and the yorkies. they are excellent build quality and excellent padding. i got mine from ebay from tukicovers. the ebay store is slightly cheaper there than the website.

www.tukicovers.com



+1 on tuki. Just ordered the full zip ones for the EVs and a cover for the yorkville. Has a strap on the bottom well worth it


i did not now they had full zips. i'm pissed. i literally got the ones with the straps last week.
asthmatic 6:05 PM - 22 December, 2013
I couldn't find the zippered version on their site
DjCity 6:14 PM - 22 December, 2013
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I couldn't find the zippered version on their site


Look under speaker bag not speaker cover. $81
DjCity 6:18 PM - 22 December, 2013
Anyone ever use those speaker covers from connietom1123 on ebay?

I heard good reviews on her covers but never seen one in person.

m.ebay.com
Joee 6:25 PM - 22 December, 2013
you mean a cover like this--> www.ebay.com

my boy has them they seem cool bur it basically putting a blanket over you speaker the tuki cover has more padding
DjCity 6:29 PM - 22 December, 2013
Yeah.
Those are the ones I was looking at.

Think I'm just gonna go with the tuki covers and get a pocket sewn on each for cables.
Joee 6:39 PM - 22 December, 2013
these are cool also, there not a bag more of a cover that slips on & have a pouch in the back, i found a pair for a little more that $100---> www.proavmax.com
Joee 6:49 PM - 22 December, 2013
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Yeah.
Those are the ones I was looking at.

Think I'm just gonna go with the tuki covers and get a pocket sewn on each for cables.

i should tell you also, there not cheap thin blankets there pretty thick moving blankets

check out the video our own alpoulin did on them---> Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ GaFFle 8:22 PM - 22 December, 2013
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Anyone ever use those speaker covers from connietom1123 on ebay?

I heard good reviews on her covers but never seen one in person.

m.ebay.com

Cheap and thin'ish. They're better than nothing but if you have a quality speaker, get a quality cover… Tuki.

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Yeah.
Those are the ones I was looking at.

Think I'm just gonna go with the tuki covers and get a pocket sewn on each for cables.

i should tell you also, there not cheap thin blankets there pretty thick moving blankets

check out the video our own alpoulin did on them---> Watchwww.youtube.com

They're flimsy and don't fit any speaker tightly. Look how easily he pulls it off at 1:26. I owned them before and they use to nearly come off of my speakers whenever I would slide them out of my SUV. If they had a Velcro retaining strap, that would make them much better. Still too thin though and provide little in the way of protection.
Al Poulin 9:44 PM - 22 December, 2013
I don't find them flimsy at all, as they are fairly thick and do provide good overall protection given their low cost, but they are certainly not very snug - and that is one thing I personally LIKE about them. Very easy to put on and take off. I had some vinyl covers for my NX55Ps that were way too snug (not easy to put on) and felt really crappy, like vinyl. :-) I prefer a blanket type material.

I guess it depends on your particular situation/needs. My speakers are usually sitting in the passenger seats of my Ford Focus wagon, so the covers are really to get them to the car and from the car and into the venue while not worrying if I were to knock them here or accidentally rub them there. They may not be ideal for more "heavy" use, but they work great for me and the seller is a pleasure to deal with.

Al
DJ GaFFle 10:51 AM - 23 December, 2013
She Needs To, At Minimum, Install Velcro Retaining Straps On Her Covers.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:58 PM - 23 December, 2013
Some ya'll really make me wonder. How are you traveling with your gear? Are you throwing it in the back of a empty cargo van for it to bounce around? If you pack your stuff in a car or suv the most minimal if covering will protect your stuff.
Dj Nyce 2:14 PM - 23 December, 2013
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Some ya'll really make me wonder. How are you traveling with your gear? Are you throwing it in the back of a empty cargo van for it to bounce around? If you pack your stuff in a car or suv the most minimal if covering will protect your stuff.


i'm sorry i can't just put anything on a $1,600 speaker. Connie's covers is nothing but a blanket. you would get better results going upstairs getting your blanket from when you were a kid and wrapping it around your speakers with scotch tape.

even if its in a car, it gets jostled around. when you take them in and out shit can happen.

i remember i used to do that shit. i used a sheet. well i'm rolling my rack n roller down the street with 2 speakers wrapped up in a sheet. the sheet got lose, got stuck in the wheels and one of the speakers went sliding off. it left such a nasty gash i didn't even want them shits no more. luckily those speakers weren't my babies.

on a side note i reached out to tuki to see if they will let me exchange the ones i got for the zippered ones.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:23 PM - 23 December, 2013
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Some ya'll really make me wonder. How are you traveling with your gear? Are you throwing it in the back of a empty cargo van for it to bounce around? If you pack your stuff in a car or suv the most minimal if covering will protect your stuff.


i'm sorry i can't just put anything on a $1,600 speaker. Connie's covers is nothing but a blanket. you would get better results going upstairs getting your blanket from when you were a kid and wrapping it around your speakers with scotch tape.

even if its in a car, it gets jostled around. when you take them in and out shit can happen.

i remember i used to do that shit. i used a sheet. well i'm rolling my rack n roller down the street with 2 speakers wrapped up in a sheet. the sheet got lose, got stuck in the wheels and one of the speakers went sliding off. it left such a nasty gash i didn't even want them shits no more. luckily those speakers weren't my babies.

on a side note i reached out to tuki to see if they will let me exchange the ones i got for the zippered ones.


Cmon how much jostling is going to happen in a car with that big ass EV speaker?
Joee 2:28 PM - 23 December, 2013
^ zxa5's are not big at all, there some of the smallest 15's you can buy, take a look at a pic of the front cover it's next to a vci 380 box gives you an idea as to how small it is
imageshack.com
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:33 PM - 23 December, 2013
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^ zxa5's are not big at all, there some of the smallest 15's you can buy, take a look at a pic of the front cover it's next to a vci 380 box gives you an idea as to how small it is
imageshack.com


I know how big they are, point is there is really no room in the car for them to be being moving and bouncing around to the point of being damaged.
Joee 2:38 PM - 23 December, 2013
not everyone pacs there shit rite i know a few dj's guilty of this they scratch there gear just loading/unloading

on another note check out these bags they might give tuki a run for the money
www.odysseygear.com
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:44 PM - 23 December, 2013
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not everyone pacs there shit rite i know a few dj's guilty of this they scratch there gear just loading/unloading

on another note check out these bags they might give tuki a run for the money
www.odysseygear.com


LOL you guys are packing gear in suitcases. Can't make this shit up.
Joee 2:44 PM - 23 December, 2013
www.odysseygear.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:52 PM - 23 December, 2013
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Some ya'll really make me wonder. How are you traveling with your gear? Are you throwing it in the back of a empty cargo van for it to bounce around? If you pack your stuff in a car or suv the most minimal if covering will protect your stuff.




i'm sorry i can't just put anything on a $1,600 speaker. Connie's covers is nothing but a blanket. you would get better results going upstairs getting your blanket from when you were a kid and wrapping it around your speakers with scotch tape.

I got the full zip covers for my ZXAs...They are really nice. Best part is that I am able to put the power cord on top, cover up the speaker and not worry about it falling out at all. The only opening is for the handle but there is no way the power cord will fall out. The entire speaker is nice and secure. Well worth the money.
I also picked up a cover for my the York LS801pb. It's nice and has a strap on the bottom. Picking up the sub this Saturday.


even if its in a car, it gets jostled around. when you take them in and out shit can happen.



i remember i used to do that shit. i used a sheet. well i'm rolling my rack n roller down the street with 2 speakers wrapped up in a sheet. the sheet got lose, got stuck in the wheels and one of the speakers went sliding off. it left such a nasty gash i didn't even want them shits no more. luckily those speakers weren't my babies.



on a side note i reached out to tuki to see if they will let me exchange the ones i got for the zippered ones.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:52 PM - 23 December, 2013
quote fail
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:52 PM - 23 December, 2013
I got the full zip covers for my ZXAs...They are really nice. Best part is that I am able to put the power cord on top, cover up the speaker and not worry about it falling out at all. The only opening is for the handle but there is no way the power cord will fall out. The entire speaker is nice and secure. Well worth the money.
I also picked up a cover for my the York LS801pb. It's nice and has a strap on the bottom. Picking up the sub this Saturday.
DJ GaFFle 11:42 PM - 23 December, 2013
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^ zxa5's are not big at all, there some of the smallest 15's you can buy, take a look at a pic of the front cover it's next to a vci 380 box gives you an idea as to how small it is
imageshack.com


I know how big they are, point is there is really no room in the car for them to be being moving and bouncing around to the point of being damaged.

I'll Respond When I Get Home...
DJ GaFFle 2:08 AM - 24 December, 2013
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I know how big they are, point is there is really no room in the car for them to be being moving and bouncing around to the point of being damaged.

I don't transport in a car, I use an SUV. Everyone's scenario is different and I'm surprised another mobile DJ wouldn't realize all the ways gear can get banged around from transport. You can have your gear neatly organized but another piece of gear like trussing or protruding clamp can scratch your gear as you pull it out. I would lay my ZXa5's down with the old Connie covers on it. As soon as I'd slide it out, the speaker would slip right out the cover and potentially get scratched on anything surrounding it. Those covers were virtually worthless to me. If you take a Connie cover and drop it on the ground, it sags like a deflated balloon. You put a Tuki cover on the ground and it stands up stiff and straight like a speaker is still in it; that shows how thick and solidly constructed they are.

Get what you want and can afford but know there's a low end and high end as far as covers and some with definite pros and cons.

(nm)
DjCity 3:12 AM - 24 December, 2013
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I would lay my ZXa5's down with the old Connie covers on it. As soon as I'd slide it out, the speaker would slip right out the cover and potentially get scratched on anything surrounding it. Those covers were virtually worthless to me

(nm)


So...

You HAD them? From your personal experience, they some BS?
DJ Val-BKNY11203 5:24 AM - 24 December, 2013
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I know how big they are, point is there is really no room in the car for them to be being moving and bouncing around to the point of being damaged.

I don't transport in a car, I use an SUV. Everyone's scenario is different and I'm surprised another mobile DJ wouldn't realize all the ways gear can get banged around from transport. You can have your gear neatly organized but another piece of gear like trussing or protruding clamp can scratch your gear as you pull it out. I would lay my ZXa5's down with the old Connie covers on it. As soon as I'd slide it out, the speaker would slip right out the cover and potentially get scratched on anything surrounding it. Those covers were virtually worthless to me. If you take a Connie cover and drop it on the ground, it sags like a deflated balloon. You put a Tuki cover on the ground and it stands up stiff and straight like a speaker is still in it; that shows how thick and solidly constructed they are.

Get what you want and can afford but know there's a low end and high end as far as covers and some with definite pros and cons.

(nm)


I've been transporting all kinds of gear since the 80's in every kind of vehicle imaginable. Cars, SUVs, pick up trucks, cargo vans, 2 1/2 ton trucks. And I have yet to dent or scratch anything up. I take care of my shit. If you pack it right it won't move around or get scratched up. I wonder how in the hell ya'll are driving for that to happen.
the_black_one 5:30 AM - 24 December, 2013
I'm super careful with my gear ... I'm getting a special stand made so I don't have to damage the speakers hole that is made to place them on speakers stands... My stuff looks brand new.

Nm nh
DjCity 2:45 PM - 24 December, 2013
I need a good solid speaker Pole. I have the OnStage adjustable joints but I want something more solid.

Any suggestions?
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:48 PM - 24 December, 2013
Ultimate speaker stands. Work great for me
DjCity 3:20 PM - 24 December, 2013
I have the ultimate stands. The air pressure ones. Great stands btw.

I'm looking for poles for when I want to have the zxa5 above the Yorkville.

When I cluster, I use ultimate stands but want a good pole for mounting top to sub.


How you liking the zxa5's so far?
Dj Nyce 3:21 PM - 24 December, 2013
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I need a good solid speaker Pole. I have the OnStage adjustable joints but I want something more solid.

Any suggestions?


ultimate stands

i have the ultimate TS-90b's. the telelock feature is amazing. and it uses a metal collar instead of plastic, so you won't have to worry about stripping.

also all of the parts are replaceable and they have an excellent warranty.
DjCity 3:23 PM - 24 December, 2013
I even thought about replacing the pole receptacle on the yorkvilles with the threaded ones from QSC.

I don't really want to modify the cab though as it's brand new.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:56 PM - 24 December, 2013
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I have the ultimate stands. The air pressure ones. Great stands btw.



I'm looking for poles for when I want to have the zxa5 above the Yorkville.



When I cluster, I use ultimate stands but want a good pole for mounting top to sub.





How you liking the zxa5's so far?


Be honest, haven't used the ZXAs yet! lol We just had the baby last week so I stopped taking gigs for December and January. I will be starting up gigging again in Feb. I already have a couple of dates lined up. I figured I would have time to redo all my audio during those 2 months I wasn't taking parties. Picking up the Yorkville this Saturday.
DjCity 4:02 PM - 24 December, 2013
Congratulations and God Bless!

Beautiful thing to have a child. More beautiful still is to have a child with the one you truly love.
DJ GaFFle 4:08 PM - 24 December, 2013
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I know how big they are, point is there is really no room in the car for them to be being moving and bouncing around to the point of being damaged.

I don't transport in a car, I use an SUV. Everyone's scenario is different and I'm surprised another mobile DJ wouldn't realize all the ways gear can get banged around from transport. You can have your gear neatly organized but another piece of gear like trussing or protruding clamp can scratch your gear as you pull it out. I would lay my ZXa5's down with the old Connie covers on it. As soon as I'd slide it out, the speaker would slip right out the cover and potentially get scratched on anything surrounding it. Those covers were virtually worthless to me. If you take a Connie cover and drop it on the ground, it sags like a deflated balloon. You put a Tuki cover on the ground and it stands up stiff and straight like a speaker is still in it; that shows how thick and solidly constructed they are.

Get what you want and can afford but know there's a low end and high end as far as covers and some with definite pros and cons.

(nm)


I've been transporting all kinds of gear since the 80's in every kind of vehicle imaginable. Cars, SUVs, pick up trucks, cargo vans, 2 1/2 ton trucks. And I have yet to dent or scratch anything up. I take care of my shit. If you pack it right it won't move around or get scratched up. I wonder how in the hell ya'll are driving for that to happen.

Do You Run Speaker Covers Or None Because You're So Careful?
Rebelguy 4:33 PM - 24 December, 2013
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I even thought about replacing the pole receptacle on the yorkvilles with the threaded ones from QSC.

I don't really want to modify the cab though as it's brand new.


I have thought about doing this myself with my speakers. I am probably just going to buy one and see how the holes line up. I am wondering if the holes are a universal spacing.
DjCity 4:47 PM - 24 December, 2013
I'm going to measure mine as I have kw181's.
My yorkvilles have not arrived yet but when they do I will measure the holes and the size.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:38 PM - 2 January, 2014
So I picked up the Yorkville this weekend. Got my Tuki cover for it as well. Really happy with the cover as it has a nice Velcro strap on the bottom to keep the cover on. I tested getting the sub in and out of my van by myself. Had no problems doing it. Nice thing is that it stays put in the van when standing straight up, but if I move it to a side (since the cover is on) I can slide it around really easily which will be a big help when having to arrange gear to fit tvs etc...

I tested the sub real quick to make sure it was working. I just connected it straight to my ipod via XLR to 1/8" wire. I know it's not the best but just wanted to make sure it worked. Pumped it up pretty good but I did notice the limit light flash a lot earlier than I anticipated. Had the volume on the ipod all the way up, gain maybe a tad over 1/3 of the way up on the yorkville, and had it set about 2 o clock on shape. Limiter started to kick in.

I have heard these subs pound harder than I had it without the limit light come close t blinking. Maybe it was due to the fact I was just running a cable straight from ipod to the sub.
the_black_one 7:53 PM - 2 January, 2014
It was not crossed over and when you put the iPhone or iPad volume all the way up it a clipped signal ...

Nm nh
Joee 8:05 PM - 2 January, 2014
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It was not crossed over and when you put the iPhone or iPad volume all the way up it a clipped signal ...

Nm nh

doesn't that sub have a internal crossover one for the subwoofer only, & the output is not crossed over it will send a full range signal to the tops
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:09 PM - 2 January, 2014
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Quote:
It was not crossed over and when you put the iPhone or iPad volume all the way up it a clipped signal ...



Nm nh


doesn't that sub have a internal crossover one for the subwoofer only, & the output is not crossed over it will send a full range signal to the tops


Correct...most subs have an internal crossover for the sub itself.
A lot of times I put subs on my booth output and my tops on master so I have an additional control of the subs. Do it all the time, but it just seemed like it hit limiter a little earlier than I would have expected.

Now being a Yorkville, I have seen people run Yorkville tops with the limiter light on steady(no clip light ever), and never have an issue. I'm thinking I can prob do the same with the sub but I was just surprised to see the limit light flash at all.
DjCity 2:23 AM - 7 January, 2014
Due to fucking blizzard conditions and cold as shit weather, my speakers should arrive either this Wednesday or Thursday.

I plan on using them on Saturday.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:38 AM - 7 January, 2014
Where did u get the York from? Carpet or painted. I got the painted. Paid a lil extra but I think it makes it look 10x nicer
DjCity 3:50 AM - 7 January, 2014
Got them from PSA. Painted (I don't like rat fur).

They did not have the e's in Stock so I had to wait for ev as all 4 speakers are being shipped on palate via ups.
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:28 AM - 7 January, 2014
How much did you pay for each? I gotime there as well
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:28 AM - 7 January, 2014
Got mine
DjCity 1:19 PM - 7 January, 2014
$1200 per.
DjCity 8:05 PM - 8 January, 2014
I received my ZXA5's today.
I'm PISSED that my Yorkvills have not arrived yet though!

Question...

The PowerCon connection.
My ZXA5's came with the power "IN" cable but not the power "out".

1. Do the yourkvills have PowerCon connections?

2. If so. can I connect the ZXA5 to the Yorkville via PowerCon (when I get the Gray/Blue cable)?
www.ebay.com

3 If not, can I get a gray PowerCon / FEMALE power cable and plug the yorkville in that way?
www.ebay.com

Somebody that KNOWS.... Please let me know.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:15 PM - 8 January, 2014
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I received my ZXA5's today.


Congrats....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:16 PM - 8 January, 2014
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$1200 per.


NOW THIS is what I'm talking about....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:16 PM - 8 January, 2014
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$1200 per.


NOW THIS is what I'm talking about....


Wait, I thought you were talking about the EV's....

Lemmie check the thread...
Joee 8:28 PM - 8 January, 2014
the yorks do not have powercon, the purpose of the powercon is to connect two zxa5 to one power power outlet ,plug one in and jump the other i never needed this function as the speakers are always spread apart

www.ebay.com

this one is interesting it might work i don't think i would do it tho, you really want your subs being the only thing on one circuit each sub on it's own single circuit…….this way your sure to get all the power you need for them
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:07 PM - 8 January, 2014
I just ordered some cables to make a jumper.
Theoretically you can connect anything to the grey power out as long as you have the correct connections needed.

As far as plugging the Yorkville into the EV using the jumper I would not do that. The York can take up to 6 or 7 amps when running at full power and each EV can take up to 3-4 when running at full power. So if you were to max everything out you would be at like 15 amps (give or take). That's too much for 1 circuit in a standard venue. I would feel comfortable doing the 2 EVs with a jumper and your rack/computer. But put the sub separate.

What I plan on doing to use the jumper is for my little LED Mini Kintas. I mount them right under my speakers for smaller gigs. I was going to use the jumper to power that.
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:09 PM - 8 January, 2014
Quote:
I received my ZXA5's today.

I'm PISSED that my Yorkvills have not arrived yet though!



Question...



The PowerCon connection.

My ZXA5's came with the power "IN" cable but not the power "out".



1. Do the yourkvills have PowerCon connections?



2. If so. can I connect the ZXA5 to the Yorkville via PowerCon (when I get the Gray/Blue cable)?

www.ebay.com



3 If not, can I get a gray PowerCon / FEMALE power cable and plug the yorkville in that way?

www.ebay.com



Somebody that KNOWS.... Please let me know.


Also...make your own jumpers and power cables. Much cheaper than buying them pre made. I am making a 15ft premade jumper for $10 less than the price of the 6ft you have posted.
DjCity 9:19 PM - 8 January, 2014
Yeah. I can make my own at a better quality than I can buy pre made and at a less cost.

I posted the links so others would know what I was talking about. (Visuals)

I like the idea of powering one stack with one cable. Just don't know if it would be safe or have enough power for both the ZXA5 and the Yorkville.
the_black_one 9:21 PM - 8 January, 2014
York = 7 amps
Ev = 4 amps

Make sure your power is right.

Nm nh
the_black_one 9:39 PM - 8 January, 2014
Let's assume you got 15 amp breakers

Put a York and a Ev in one breaker = 11 amps

Do the same in a completely separate beaker for the other two speakers .

This would require two breakers of 15 amps each.

Most now in days are 20 amps ... You mixer and laptop and decks should only draw 2 to 3 amps at most

Nm nh
the_black_one 9:40 PM - 8 January, 2014
If you can get a power conditioner as well... Get clean constant power to your gear

Nm nh
DjCity 9:57 PM - 8 January, 2014
I just got off the phone with EV.

They say I CAN do it!

The EV is 4 amps and you can train 3 together via PowerCon.

The Yorkville is 7 amps.

EV with Yorkville amps =10

3 EV amps =12 amps


ALSO

The EV's have old school H class amps. That's why they have Soooooo much headroom above and beyond 1250w.
DjCity 10:00 PM - 8 January, 2014
I can run one stack with the PowerCon from the EV to the Yorkville and be SAFE and STRAIGHT with NO Problems.

I now know WHY the ZXA5's are so powerful.
German designed amps that are BEEFIER than the Class D's on other speakers.

I'm happy right now but will be happier when my Yorkies get here!
DjCity 10:05 PM - 8 January, 2014
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If you can get a power conditioner as well... Get clean constant power to your gear

Nm nh


I have the Furman PL-Plus C Power conditioner

For my smaller rig I have the Monster Pro 2500

I should be good.
the_black_one 10:15 PM - 8 January, 2014
Good!! Did you home work!!


Nm nh
Al Poulin 3:55 AM - 9 January, 2014
Unless you pay over 500$ for a power coditioner, it's nothing but a glorified power bar. Don't waste your $$$. :-)

Al
Rebelguy 4:01 AM - 9 January, 2014
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Unless you pay over 500$ for a power coditioner, it's nothing but a glorified power bar. Don't waste your $$$. :-)

Al


+1
DjCity 5:00 AM - 9 January, 2014
Oh well...

I wasted my money years ago with the $230 Furman and the $200 Monster.

Funny though, they both have saved my ass at one point or another.
Al Poulin 9:07 PM - 9 January, 2014
Quote:
Oh well...

I wasted my money years ago with the $230 Furman and the $200 Monster.

Funny though, they both have saved my ass at one point or another.



Saved your ass in a way that a typical surge protector would not have?
DJ Dynamight 10:38 PM - 9 January, 2014
I like the pretty lights on my Furman power conditioner...
DjCity 12:26 AM - 10 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Oh well...

I wasted my money years ago with the $230 Furman and the $200 Monster.

Funny though, they both have saved my ass at one point or another.



Saved your ass in a way that a typical surge protector would not have?


Yeah.
DjCity 12:26 AM - 10 January, 2014
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I like the pretty lights on my Furman power conditioner...


Me too.
Al Poulin 1:32 AM - 10 January, 2014
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Quote:
Quote:
Oh well...

I wasted my money years ago with the $230 Furman and the $200 Monster.

Funny though, they both have saved my ass at one point or another.



Saved your ass in a way that a typical surge protector would not have?


Yeah.


Care to elaborate? Just curious. :-)
pdidy 1:45 AM - 10 January, 2014
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Quote:
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Oh well...

I wasted my money years ago with the $230 Furman and the $200 Monster.

Funny though, they both have saved my ass at one point or another.



Saved your ass in a way that a typical surge protector would not have?


Yeah.


Care to elaborate? Just curious. :-)

i9.photobucket.com
pdidy 1:50 AM - 10 January, 2014
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DjCity 1:51 AM - 10 January, 2014
One time was bad power. The power was low and dirty. The Monster let me know before I tried to use anything on that circuit.

Another time was a power spike. The Furman saved my ass and equipment. The power spike fried 2 oc the clubs TV's. MY stuff was good.

I can HEAR when I use either power conditioner vs not using either one.
With either the Furman or the Monster, the "power buzz/hum" is gone. Without them, I hear power coming through the speakers. That is with no signal coming through, channels down and just the master up.
Without the Furman or the Monster, I get the buzz/hum. With the Furman or Monster, Buzz/hum is NOT there.
Al Poulin 2:30 AM - 10 January, 2014
Thank you for the clarification.

A built-in voltmeter can prevent you from plugging into less than ideal power, which could indeed potentially cause damage to certain equipment, BUT a voltmeter can also be purchased for a few bucks from a hardware store. As for the surge protection, I am not convinced it is any better than what you will find in a quality power bar but can't say for sure since I have never, in my 37 years on this earth, had any piece of equipment subject to a power surge.

As for the buzz you hear from your speakers, IDK ??? I have NEVER used any type of power conditioning device in my 23 years of DJ'ing and live sound and the ONLY times a buzz was present in my sound was in certain halls if I didn't plug my mixer and amplifier in the same power bar (ground loop). Simply plugging them together would resolve the issue. I guess if there is a lot of dirty power in your area, you may possibly be benefitting from somethings your Furman and Monster are doing, but my experience and my reading of posts from many professionals I trust have led me to conclude that the sub 500$ units do not do very much except reduce the content of your wallet.

Perhaps others will weigh in on this.

Al
the_black_one 2:32 AM - 10 January, 2014
al .... care to share some units that do make a difference?

NM NH
DjCity 2:39 AM - 10 January, 2014
Quote:
Thank you for the clarification.

A built-in voltmeter can prevent you from plugging into less than ideal power, which could indeed potentially cause damage to certain equipment, BUT a voltmeter can also be purchased for a few bucks from a hardware store. As for the surge protection, I am not convinced it is any better than what you will find in a quality power bar but can't say for sure since I have never, in my 37 years on this earth, had any piece of equipment subject to a power surge.

As for the buzz you hear from your speakers, IDK ??? I have NEVER used any type of power conditioning device in my 23 years of DJ'ing and live sound and the ONLY times a buzz was present in my sound was in certain halls if I didn't plug my mixer and amplifier in the same power bar (ground loop). Simply plugging them together would resolve the issue. I guess if there is a lot of dirty power in your area, you may possibly be benefitting from somethings your Furman and Monster are doing, but my experience and my reading of posts from many professionals I trust have led me to conclude that the sub 500$ units do not do very much except reduce the content of your wallet.

Perhaps others will weigh in on this.

Al


You may be right but something IS better than nothing and the somethings I have are better than what i've seen some others use.

They are not the $800 Furmans but they are not the $60 ones either.
I'm happy enough with them so far.
DjCity 2:42 AM - 10 January, 2014
If I could afford this www.guitarcenter.com I would be pretty happy and unworried about power issues even though i'm not really worried right now.
DjCity 2:48 AM - 10 January, 2014
If i'm running BIG sound, I use a tap box.
Al Poulin 2:51 AM - 10 January, 2014
Quote:
al .... care to share some units that do make a difference?

NM NH


I'm sure they are out there conditioners out there that actually do something beneficial, but at a fairly high price. I peronally feel that they are generally unnecessary for most people, partly from all of the reading I've done in the last 10 years on live sound forums, but also because quality power bars have worked just fine for me for so long. I don't claim to be an expert on electricity, because I am not, but I often feel that the "need" for certain products is too often created by manufacturers who exagerate the potential for certain problems in order to instill fear into buyers so that they will buy said products. Very few people will consider buying a 3$ HDMI cable since they believe a 40$ Monster Cable HDMI is required for the ultimate viewing experience. If they were to double blind test both cables, I doubt they could reliably tell the difference.
Frankie Glasses 1:04 AM - 11 January, 2014
Has anyone ran 1 ZXA5 with either the 1 Yorkville or 1 VRX? If so how many people could that handle?
the_black_one 1:11 AM - 11 January, 2014
i would say 1 can do 250

NM NH NB
pdidy 3:24 AM - 11 January, 2014
Zxa5+ls801= 250-300

Zxa5+vrx918sp= 150 (due to the limits of the sub output)
DjCity 7:08 PM - 11 January, 2014
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Zxa5+ls801= 250-300

Zxa5+vrx918sp= 150 (due to the limits of the sub output)


Is that "kick you in the chest" bass, "feel it" bass or "hear it" bass?

Mine arrive Monday.
DjCity 7:10 PM - 11 January, 2014
Talking about the Yorkvilles.
One stack (1 yorkville w/ 1 zxa5) for 250 to 300 people.
the_black_one 7:30 PM - 11 January, 2014
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Talking about the Yorkvilles.
One stack (1 yorkville w/ 1 zxa5) for 250 to 300 people.

Not chest pumping ... The york will run out if gas before the ev.

Nm nh
the_black_one 7:30 PM - 11 January, 2014
Of**
DjCity 7:34 PM - 11 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Talking about the Yorkvilles.
One stack (1 yorkville w/ 1 zxa5) for 250 to 300 people.

Not chest pumping ... The york will run out if gas before the ev.

Nm nh


No bullshit?

I can't wait to test them out.
So...
If I want chest pumping bass and good loud CLEAR highs for 250 to 300 people I should use 2 yorkvilles to one zxa5?
the_black_one 7:45 PM - 11 January, 2014
The ratio for club level music with that rig is 1 ev per 3 yorks.

Nm nh
DjCity 7:52 PM - 11 January, 2014
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The ratio for club level music with that rig is 1 ev per 3 yorks.

Nm nh


I'm having a hard time believing that.
1 EV to 3 ls801pb's?

I have not used the EV's yet but DAMN!!!
I heard the yorkies. Have partners that own them. They THUMP! HARD!!!

3 to one is a little hard to believe.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:58 PM - 11 January, 2014
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3 to one is a little hard to believe.


This...

My question is what 1 to 1 speaker/sub combo matches the BEST with the EV Zxa5.
Joee 8:06 PM - 11 January, 2014
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3 to one is a little hard to believe.


This...

My question is what 1 to 1 speaker/sub combo matches the BEST with the EV Zxa5.

2 of these would do the trick i think---> www.rcf.it
DjCity 8:20 PM - 11 January, 2014
90 / 198.41 kg/lbs

Bad ass sub but kinda heavy.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:31 PM - 11 January, 2014
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Quote:
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3 to one is a little hard to believe.


This...

My question is what 1 to 1 speaker/sub combo matches the BEST with the EV Zxa5.


2 of these would do the trick i think---> www.rcf.it


Are you SERIOUS?

That's a DOUBLE 18"- 2,500 Watts Powered RCF Subwoofer....and you're trying to tell me you'd need 2 to keep up with ONE EV Zxa5?
Joee 8:34 PM - 11 January, 2014
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90 / 198.41 kg/lbs

Bad ass sub but kinda heavy.

^ thats the thing to keep up with the zxa5 you need one bad ass sub, you want big bass you need to move air witch is heavy, this would work also
Quote:
90 / 198.41 kg/lbs
Joee 8:36 PM - 11 January, 2014
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Quote:
Quote:
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3 to one is a little hard to believe.


This...

My question is what 1 to 1 speaker/sub combo matches the BEST with the EV Zxa5.


2 of these would do the trick i think---> www.rcf.it


Are you SERIOUS?

That's a DOUBLE 18"- 2,500 Watts Powered RCF Subwoofer....and you're trying to tell me you'd need 2 to keep up with ONE EV Zxa5?

you would need on of those double 18's to keep up, don't you remember pdidys post saying you would need 3 vrx subs for 1 zxa5?
Joee 8:37 PM - 11 January, 2014
quote fail above @ djcity this would work also-->www.danleysoundlabs.com
Joee 8:42 PM - 11 January, 2014
@ johnny you would need one for one top
DjCity 8:49 PM - 11 January, 2014
I guess I will just have to double up on the yorkvilles then.

4 yorkvilles for 2 zxa5's sounds crazy though.

I need to hear that for myself.

Come Monday, my yorkvilles will be here. I already have the zxa5's but wont use them till I can use them with the yorkvilles.

Unless I use one of them tonight with 2 QSC KW181'S.

How would that work out?
Joee 8:53 PM - 11 January, 2014
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I guess I will just have to double up on the yorkvilles then.

4 yorkvilles for 2 zxa5's sounds crazy though.

I need to hear that for myself.

Come Monday, my yorkvilles will be here. I already have the zxa5's but wont use them till I can use them with the yorkvilles.

Unless I use one of them tonight with 2 QSC KW181'S.

How would that work out?

thats not to say that 2 yorks & 2 zxa5s won't sound good, cause that setup will rock it's just the ev's can get SUPER loud

try using them stand alone, they sound great in full range also the bass they put out is crazy
Joee 8:54 PM - 11 January, 2014
^ two kw181 with one zxa5 will work fine
djdisbjohn 8:56 PM - 11 January, 2014
I run 2 EV with 2 vrx918. My Evs are set to -12 db (9 o'clock). Subs are at 3-4 o'clock. If I turn up EV anymore it will outrun the subs easily.
Joee 9:05 PM - 11 January, 2014
that seems to be a popular combo i run it also, still the vrx leaves you wanting more the yorks i think gives more bass,but you lose the portability factor
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:13 PM - 11 January, 2014
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you would need on of those double 18's to keep up, don't you remember pdidys post saying you would need 3 vrx subs for 1 zxa5?


So is it ONE or TWO?

Because you said - >
Quote:
2 of these would do the trick i think---> www.rcf.it
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:15 PM - 11 January, 2014
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don't you remember pdidys post saying you would need 3 vrx subs for 1 zxa5?


I haven't been focusing on "Sub" talk really....

But even still....3 OF ONE cabinet to be evenly matched up to a SINGLE Zxa5?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:16 PM - 11 January, 2014
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quote fail above @ djcity this would work also-->www.danleysoundlabs.com


Ok, that sounds plausible....

But Daaaammmmnnnn.....
Joee 9:31 PM - 11 January, 2014
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Quote:
you would need on of those double 18's to keep up, don't you remember pdidys post saying you would need 3 vrx subs for 1 zxa5?


So is it ONE or TWO?

Because you said - >
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2 of these would do the trick i think---> www.rcf.it

2 for a pair of zxa5's so yes one for one, i din't keep reading on before i posted

Quote:
Quote:
don't you remember pdidys post saying you would need 3 vrx subs for 1 zxa5?




I haven't been focusing on "Sub" talk really....

But even still....3 OF ONE cabinet to be evenly matched up to a SINGLE Zxa5?


yes ask pdidy 3 even 4 for one zxa5
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:44 PM - 11 January, 2014
Just wow....

But just ONE of these would do -> www.danleysoundlabs.com if paired up to a single Zxa5....
Joee 9:51 PM - 11 January, 2014
^ that sub outdoes the zxa5 according to DJ GaFFle
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:52 PM - 11 January, 2014
Quote:
^ that sub outdoes the zxa5 according to DJ GaFFle


Finally....
pdidy 9:57 PM - 11 January, 2014
Theres no such thing as 1 sub manageable by a mobile dj that will keep up with a zxa5.
(danley+mobile=debatable)
3-4 vrx918sp are a good match for 1 zxa5
3 yorkville ls801 are a good match for 1 zxa5

gaffle is the only one with the danley an zxa5 but my "guess" is the danley is equal to about 3 vrx918sp.
Joee 10:10 PM - 11 January, 2014
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Quote:
^ that sub outdoes the zxa5 according to DJ GaFFle


Finally....

@ $4,000
Joee 10:14 PM - 11 January, 2014
Quote:
Theres no such thing as 1 sub manageable by a mobile dj that will keep up with a zxa5.
(danley+mobile=debatable)
3-4 vrx918sp are a good match for 1 zxa5
3 yorkville ls801 are a good match for 1 zxa5

gaffle is the only one with the danley an zxa5 but my "guess" is the danley is equal to about 3 vrx918sp.

in DJ GaFFle words the subs were humming along and the ev were holding on for dear life, at least i think thats how he said it?
pdidy 10:28 PM - 11 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Theres no such thing as 1 sub manageable by a mobile dj that will keep up with a zxa5.
(danley+mobile=debatable)
3-4 vrx918sp are a good match for 1 zxa5
3 yorkville ls801 are a good match for 1 zxa5

gaffle is the only one with the danley an zxa5 but my "guess" is the danley is equal to about 3 vrx918sp.

in DJ GaFFle words the subs were humming along and the ev were holding on for dear life, at least i think thats how he said it?

yes thats just about exactly what he said. Depending on your sound preference (bass heavy vs bass lite) 3-4 vrx can push a zxa5 to its max output before they run out of gas.
the_black_one 10:44 PM - 11 January, 2014
Try to tell you.... 3 yorks for one ev.... Diddy confirmed ...

Nm nh
Joee 11:08 PM - 11 January, 2014
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Try to tell you.... 3 yorks for one ev.... Diddy confirmed ...

Nm nh

or one of these
www.rcf.it
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:03 AM - 12 January, 2014
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Quote:
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^ that sub outdoes the zxa5 according to DJ GaFFle


Finally....


@ $4,000


Lawd.
DjCity 1:55 AM - 12 January, 2014
I can't wait!

I might have to order 2 more yorkvilles.

I'm about to test 1 zxa5 with 2 QSC KW181'S.

Will report back.
pdidy 2:19 AM - 12 January, 2014
try this test so we all have a reference point.....
2 QSC subs set @ 12oclock (unity) an push till the limit light comes on then slowly turn the zxa5 up from the off position. What clock position or # do you stop at for a balanced sound ?
iamevents.com
the_black_one 3:00 AM - 12 January, 2014
He needs a SPL meter

Nm nh
DjCity 8:47 AM - 12 January, 2014
No I don't.

The zxa5 hit the mark and then some

I zxa5 with 2 kw181's sounded like one kw181 with a hell of a top.

I'm impressed!

I have no idea of how close I got to clip though but it did not seem like I was even close.
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:06 AM - 12 January, 2014
What did u have the gain set at on the zxa5? Were the QSCs at limiting?
the_black_one 9:10 AM - 12 January, 2014
Yo......... Me and the other folks be telling you.......

Nm nh
DJ GaFFle 12:55 PM - 12 January, 2014
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No I don't.

The zxa5 hit the mark and then some

I zxa5 with 2 kw181's sounded like one kw181 with a hell of a top.

I'm impressed!

I have no idea of how close I got to clip though but it did not seem like I was even close.

Huh?
DjCity 2:50 PM - 12 January, 2014
Quote:
try this test so we all have a reference point.....
2 QSC subs set @ 12oclock (unity) an push till the limit light comes on then slowly turn the zxa5 up from the off position. What clock position or # do you stop at for a balanced sound ?
iamevents.com


I could not do that last night. I will try to push them till the limiter light comes on next week buti was unable to last night.

I started with the subs at unity and the EV at unity. Gains on the mixer at 10:00 and master at 10:00.

At first it did not sound good because I had the master so low. I turned master up to 11:00 and everything came to life!

At first I thought the subs were keeping up but I was in a corner and the stack was right next to me so the bass really resonates.

I stepped out in front the stack and found that I needed to turn the subs up to 2:00.
It sounded better but I still had to turn up a little bit more on the subs and come down to 11:00 on the EV.

Running like that last night, it sounded real good.
The EV makes 2 KW181'S sound like 1 small lightweight sub with a big heavyweight top.

I can't wait till I try the EV with the yorkville.

I also need to run then through the driverack. Last night was mixer straight to speakers.
Joee 2:54 PM - 12 January, 2014
^ zxa5's DO NOT have a built in limiter, drive rack is a good investment
DjCity 2:56 PM - 12 January, 2014
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^ zxa5's DO NOT have a built in limiter, drive rack is a good investment


Yeah.
I have one but did not use it last night.
DJ GaFFle 6:23 PM - 12 January, 2014
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The EV makes 2 KW181'S sound like 1 small lightweight sub with a big heavyweight top...

We tried to told ya'll... them ZXa5's are no joke!
Joee 6:32 PM - 12 January, 2014
^ preach

djcity try using them stand alone in full range, you'll swear theres a subwoofer in the room
Joee 6:36 PM - 12 January, 2014
came across this in another forum "I read on the NAMM 2014 website that EV will be releasing a new family of portable high end powered speakers!!"


can't wait to see if this is true!!!
DJ GaFFle 6:50 PM - 12 January, 2014
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came across this in another forum "I read on the NAMM 2014 website that EV will be releasing a new family of portable high end powered speakers!!"


can't wait to see if this is true!!!

Oh ohhh... I don't need to go broke trying to upgrade. :-)

I hope they continue to make their high-end stuff in the USA.
Joee 6:55 PM - 12 January, 2014
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came across this in another forum "I read on the NAMM 2014 website that EV will be releasing a new family of portable high end powered speakers!!"


can't wait to see if this is true!!!

Oh ohhh... I don't need to go broke trying to upgrade. :-)

I hope they continue to make their high-end stuff in the USA.

had the same thought …lol, depending what it is some rcf's may be going up for sale…..lol

i do remember seeing something on Facebook than they took it down, it was a picture of speakers and a caption that said the best is yet to come
Joee 6:58 PM - 12 January, 2014
ok this looks official ------> www.facebook.com

i'd say new speakers on the way…...
Joee 7:04 PM - 12 January, 2014
this does not look like the back panel of the newest zlx model

mystery speaker image---> www.facebook.com

zlx12p image--> imageshack.com
DJ GaFFle 7:35 PM - 12 January, 2014
I see some cookie cutter'ism from several of those pics. It looks like these'll be along the lines of the Tour-X series. You'll see them at your local GC.

I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(

(nm)
Joee 7:40 PM - 12 January, 2014
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I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(


i don't think we will ever see that, looks like it will be some more made in china stuff, thats were there profit is i guess not the high end stuff
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:46 PM - 12 January, 2014
Quote:

I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(

(nm)


If the specs you guys post is true, along with the real life experiences, then the hopes of something to OUTDO the existing ZXA5 would be crazy...

Who would ever be able to afford something like that if made?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:47 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Quote:
I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(
i don't think we will ever see that,


Realistically speaking, how many of your DJ buddies actually own these ZXA5's?

Does the price whiddle it down to a select few?
Joee 8:00 PM - 12 January, 2014
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I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(
i don't think we will ever see that,


Realistically speaking, how many of your DJ buddies actually own these ZXA5's?

Does the price whiddle it down to a select few?

question one, i only know 2 that do & that was after they heard mine

question two, yes this is very true the average person doesn't spend $1,300 on one speaker
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:01 PM - 12 January, 2014
Thank you for your response sir....
Joee 8:07 PM - 12 January, 2014
;) you need to stop B S IN and go get a pair, when you do your gonna say why did i wait so long to buy these


easily single handedly they BEST investment a working dj can make in a pa system.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:30 PM - 12 January, 2014
And WHO wants another DJ to upgrade their system again?

Another DJ?

:-).
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:30 PM - 12 January, 2014
In due time man, in due time....
pdidy 8:34 PM - 12 January, 2014
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I see some cookie cutter'ism from several of those pics. It looks like these'll be along the lines of the Tour-X series. You'll see them at your local GC.

I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(

(nm)

Naa, can't / won't be a zxa5 killer. there's no reason to make one YET because it has no competition.
Joee 8:37 PM - 12 January, 2014
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In due time man, in due time....


for someone thats always saying "man listen"

you don't listen when you here them you gonna wish you had bought them sooner, you can do 200 person event without a sub and people would think you had one
pdidy 8:37 PM - 12 January, 2014
None of my dj friends own the zxa5 an I'm sure it's due to price.
DjCity 8:38 PM - 12 January, 2014
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I see some cookie cutter'ism from several of those pics. It looks like these'll be along the lines of the Tour-X series. You'll see them at your local GC.

I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(

(nm)


Look like upgraded ZXL to me.
Joee 8:38 PM - 12 January, 2014
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None of my dj friends own the zxa5 an I'm sure it's due to price.

but damn do they want a pair?….lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:40 PM - 12 January, 2014
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In due time man, in due time....


for someone thats always saying "man listen"

you don't listen when you here them you gonna wish you had bought them sooner, you can do 200 person event without a sub and people would think you had one


You don't be listening...

I ALREADY do 200 person events WITHOUT a sub...

Pdidy, tell this dude about the legacy of Cerwin Vega v35's...

Joee, you have to realize, I've NEVER had "Small" sounding equipment...
Joee 8:42 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Quote:


You don't be listening...

I ALREADY do 200 person events WITHOUT a sub...




i know what that big ass heavy ass cervin vega passive speaker is……..lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:42 PM - 12 January, 2014
You know what? For my most recent event, the Reception for the White girl who wanted all 90's hiphop and such...she said this to me...

"You know...I LIKE the fact that you have BIG speakers, because they LOOK big and SOUND big"....

True story... They're on casters, so it's all roll-in, roll-out.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:44 PM - 12 January, 2014
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You don't be listening...

I ALREADY do 200 person events WITHOUT a sub...


i know what that big ass heavy ass cervin vega passive speaker is……..lol


Right, so you already know, I'm NOT hurting for sound...

I'm just thinking futuristically that I should invest in the EV's because EVENTUALLY, the cones in the V35's are going to eventually rot out..

I've had them since the early 90's, and they still look good and bang.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:45 PM - 12 January, 2014
All anybody EVER sees nowadays are speakers on stands....
Joee 8:47 PM - 12 January, 2014
^ but i'll say it again when you do get them zxa5 your gonna wish you got them sooner, no more heavy speakers or amp to carry

man i don't front i'm getting old i'm not trying to carry heavy gear no more
Joee 8:50 PM - 12 January, 2014
some people might not know about the speakers you speak of we have to show them

montreal.kijiji.ca

montreal.kijiji.ca

montreal.kijiji.ca
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:51 PM - 12 January, 2014
But look at what we're talking about here...

Investing in a product that is 2600.00...

NOT in any GC/Sam Ash place to demo....

Nobody around MY way has them....

And even you guys know a "Limited" amount of DJ's that have them....be it the price may be prohibitive, but still..

So, I'm basically taking the word of someone on the internet, who HAPPENS to be a "Gear Whore".... :-)

It's called smart shopping and investigative research....

I'm not the type of cat that buys version 1.0 of anything....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:52 PM - 12 January, 2014
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some people might not know about the speakers you speak of we have to show them
montreal.kijiji.ca
montreal.kijiji.ca
montreal.kijiji.ca


LMAO!

Dude, those are version 1.0! LMAO...

Mine don't have those big red azz lips.....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:53 PM - 12 January, 2014
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I see some cookie cutter'ism from several of those pics. It looks like these'll be along the lines of the Tour-X series. You'll see them at your local GC.

I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(

(nm)


Naa, can't / won't be a zxa5 killer. there's no reason to make one YET because it has no competition.


^^This^^^

Joee just wants some new *ish...
Joee 8:54 PM - 12 January, 2014
^ LOL
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:54 PM - 12 January, 2014
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None of my dj friends own the zxa5 an I'm sure it's due to price.


Boom...

Not saying they're not worth the investment, but it's not exactly a "Go To" speaker for your average "Mobile" DJ...
Joee 8:57 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Quote:
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I see some cookie cutter'ism from several of those pics. It looks like these'll be along the lines of the Tour-X series. You'll see them at your local GC.

I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(

(nm)


Naa, can't / won't be a zxa5 killer. there's no reason to make one YET because it has no competition.


^^This^^^

Joee just wants some new *ish...

actually i been using my rcf a lot these days, 38lbs tops 70lbs subs i really like them
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:03 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Quote:
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I see some cookie cutter'ism from several of those pics. It looks like these'll be along the lines of the Tour-X series. You'll see them at your local GC.

I wanted a ZXA5 killer. :-(

(nm)


Naa, can't / won't be a zxa5 killer. there's no reason to make one YET because it has no competition.


^^This^^^

Joee just wants some new *ish...


actually i been using my rcf a lot these days, 38lbs tops 70lbs subs i really like them


You know what's funny?

The V35 weighs 2 lbs less than what you're carrying for speakers (110lbs)....AND you have to make 4 trips, where I make 2....

Things that make you say Hmmmmmmmm.........
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:04 PM - 12 January, 2014
My bad, 2 lbs MORE....but you still gotta make 2 EXTRA trips to the car..... :-D
Joee 9:08 PM - 12 January, 2014
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My bad, 2 lbs MORE....but you still gotta make 2 EXTRA trips to the car..... :-D

platform truck my man one trip
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:16 PM - 12 January, 2014
LMAO @ you posting up version 1.0...

Stop playin...

www.djjohnnym.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:17 PM - 12 January, 2014
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My bad, 2 lbs MORE....but you still gotta make 2 EXTRA trips to the car..... :-D


platform truck my man one trip


It's still 4 devices that you have to set up....
the_black_one 9:20 PM - 12 January, 2014
Joee... You do know who your trying to reason with ?

Nm nh nb
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:23 PM - 12 January, 2014
Yes, someone that actually DOES DJ in "Real Real" life....

Or would you say your ALIAS does your DJ'ing for you?
the_black_one 9:28 PM - 12 January, 2014
Not derailing this discussion because I like it and actually own 4 of them. :)

Nm nh nb
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:30 PM - 12 January, 2014
Hmmm...good save...
the_black_one 9:31 PM - 12 January, 2014
Did an event this pas fri... The client was super happy with the sound. She liked how it was not old and beat up. It was at a mansion ... She was very concerned with the aesthetics of the rig


Nm nh nb
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:34 PM - 12 January, 2014
Still throwing digs huh? So was that's Cinderella's castle that you did the event at?

Imaginary events....smh...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:40 PM - 12 January, 2014
Anyway, Joee and Pdidy,

A slightly different question...

How would you characterize the LOW END of a set of ZXA5's?

And to put it in real life terms....Say the LOW END of my Cerwins is an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10, (10 being the highest), how would you rate the ZXA5's low end, by themselves?
Joee 9:51 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Anyway, Joee and Pdidy,

A slightly different question...

How would you characterize the LOW END of a set of ZXA5's?

And to put it in real life terms....Say the LOW END of my Cerwins is an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10, (10 being the highest), how would you rate the ZXA5's low end, by themselves?

i haven't here'd them cv's in a long time so i can't give you a number i can say that you can feel the bass under your feet you will hear close by doors rattle , you would swear you had a sub woofer !!!!!!

not shaking down the walls but a nice bass
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:53 PM - 12 January, 2014
Hmmm....Pdidy?
Joee 9:55 PM - 12 January, 2014
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LMAO @ you posting up version 1.0...

Stop playin...

www.djjohnnym.com

these speakers right here will sound good until the dance floor fils up and everyone blocks the horn than what you have good bass but the sound doesn't travel far
Joee 9:58 PM - 12 January, 2014
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My bad, 2 lbs MORE....but you still gotta make 2 EXTRA trips to the car..... :-D


platform truck my man one trip


It's still 4 devices that you have to set up....

and you still have to setup a amp rack , BOOM
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:02 PM - 12 January, 2014
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LMAO @ you posting up version 1.0...

Stop playin...

www.djjohnnym.com


these speakers right here will sound good until the dance floor fils up and everyone blocks the horn than what you have good bass but the sound doesn't travel far


No sir, that is a wide dispersion horn, never gets blocked....

And people are generally 10-15 ft away from the horns anyway...

Yeah, you need to hear these joints....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:04 PM - 12 January, 2014
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My bad, 2 lbs MORE....but you still gotta make 2 EXTRA trips to the car..... :-D


platform truck my man one trip


It's still 4 devices that you have to set up....


and you still have to setup a amp rack , BOOM


Are you serious?

I bring ONE 2 space QSC 1500a amp....no crossovers man....lmao.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:06 PM - 12 January, 2014
Now we'd both still have to bring a processing rack, correct? So that stays the same.

I still have a limiter, bbe (never use it) and preamp in mine, and led lights to make it all look pretty...

If a DriveRack is deemed necessary, then that's not a problem...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:08 PM - 12 January, 2014
LMAO @ Amp "Rack"....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:09 PM - 12 January, 2014
And I fit everything into a Chrysler Town and Country Minivan...with room to spare...
Joee 10:12 PM - 12 January, 2014
RMX1500 for those cv's, that's a 350 watt amp those big ass speakers are only 350 watts?

they better be super efficient to play loud


i don't use signal processing ….BOOM…….lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:14 PM - 12 January, 2014
Of course they're super efficient....

smh...

Why do you think I HAVE THEM?

The speakers are only 300 RMS apiece, but that's plenty...

Quote:
i don't use signal processing ….BOOM…….lol


So you use the signal directly from the MIXER?

Fail...lmao...

You should at LEAST have a gate/limiter in your sound chain....wtf?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:16 PM - 12 January, 2014
Anybody that knows ANYTHING about the sound chain, knows that you need a decent PRE-AMP, to customize the sound....aside from the EQ section....
Joee 10:17 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Of course they're super efficient....

smh...

Why do you think I HAVE THEM?

The speakers are only 300 RMS apiece, but that's plenty...

Quote:
i don't use signal processing ….BOOM…….lol


So you use the signal directly from the MIXER?

Fail...lmao...

You should at LEAST have a gate/limiter in your sound chain....wtf?


never had a need until this passed summer where another dj used them (blown speaker)
Joee 10:18 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Anybody that knows ANYTHING about the sound chain, knows that you need a decent PRE-AMP, to customize the sound....aside from the EQ section....

the rane sixty two has a nice pre amp
Joee 10:21 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Fail...lmao...


fail?

your speaker
www.djjohnnym.com

my speaker
imageshack.com

i'm charlie sheen in it all day

WINNING!!!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:23 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Anybody that knows ANYTHING about the sound chain, knows that you need a decent PRE-AMP, to customize the sound....aside from the EQ section....


the rane sixty two has a nice pre amp


smh...and I thought you KNEW your *ish...

See? This is why I ask a LOT of questions and don't just go with what people say "From the internet"....lmao.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:24 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Of course they're super efficient....

smh...

Why do you think I HAVE THEM?

The speakers are only 300 RMS apiece, but that's plenty...

Quote:
i don't use signal processing ….BOOM…….lol


So you use the signal directly from the MIXER?

Fail...lmao...

You should at LEAST have a gate/limiter in your sound chain....wtf?


never had a need until this passed summer where another dj used them (blown speaker)


Dude, you are SUCH a Gear Whore, HOW IN THE FUGG don't you have a compressor / limiter????

Good grief, that's like you not having an extra power cord or something...what in the entire F*ck?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:26 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Fail...lmao...





fail?



your speaker

www.djjohnnym.com



my speaker

imageshack.com



i'm charlie sheen in it all day

WINNING!!!!!


Hmmm, it might be nice if you stop posting OLD pics.... :-)....

And learned to quote...

But NAH, how don't you have a SIGNAL processing chain?

I've got a headache now....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:29 PM - 12 January, 2014
Don't you know that the OUTPUT is totally determined by how clean the signal path is?

Oh man, this can't be happenin.....

So you basically set your mixer to a certain level, and run the signal to your speakers?

Are you SERIOUS?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:29 PM - 12 January, 2014
Do you at LEAST have a Outboard MIXING board?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:42 PM - 12 January, 2014
Joee! You HEAR me typing to you!

So you KNOW the reason WHY your speakers were blown is because you didn't have a point in the sound chain where you can CONTROL the quality and level of the signal without actually having to be ON the mixer, right?

If you had a separate Pre-Amp (with lights) or a House Mixing board that you YOURSELF could monitor, I guarantee you wouldn't have had to get those jawns repaired....

ANYBODY with speaker that can generate sound levels as high as we're talking about here KNOW that the FIRST thing we're concerned with is signal quality and VOLUME control...

I'd even go so far as to say that The_Black_One even knows that part.....

And that HURT to say that...
Joee 11:08 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Joee! You HEAR me typing to you!




LOL……i'm eaten dinner man!!!!!

i have a mackie borad

Quote:


smh...and I thought you KNEW your *ish...



i do i know how to use my ears and not rely on those red light on a mixer that can be wrong, i've had my zxa5's for more than 3 years without one single issue (that was another dj) i don't need a compressor/limiter i'm not a noob
Joee 11:11 PM - 12 January, 2014
I've got a headache now....

i gave johnny a headache (NH)………..LMAO
Joee 11:13 PM - 12 January, 2014
ay johnny did i ever show you my mic?

imageshack.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:19 PM - 12 January, 2014
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i have a mackie borad


You have to do better than THAT MAN,...

Model / Serial Number

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smh...and I thought you KNEW your *ish...
i do i know how to use my ears and not rely on those red light on a mixer that can be wrong, i've had my zxa5's for more than 3 years without one single issue (that was another dj) i don't need a compressor/limiter i'm not a noob

smh....

You are EXACTLY RIGHT that using the "Red Lights" on the MIXER may not save you....

THAT'S why you would have a different piece of gear to CORRECTLY monitor the REAL input and anticipated OUTPUT of your rig....

Apparently you DO need a compressor / limiter....because if you HAD one, you'd be richer today to buy more gear vs. paying for repairs :-D.

But, you NEVER KNOW, if you'll ever be put in a situation where you have someone other than yourself rocking your gear...

Me? I did rental and provided sound for numerous Red Liners in my day...

Did they burn out a single speaker? NOPE, because I was at the helm shuttin' 'em down...

I also run without USING the compressor / limiter because I know my system....but you should have it in your arsenal at a MINIMUM....

And they're relatively CHEAP too man...wtf?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:21 PM - 12 January, 2014
Quote:
I've got a headache now....

i gave johnny a headache (NH)………..LMAO


I don't believe you don't have a required piece of equipment that ALL loud sounding rigs have...

And I mean ALL....
Joee 11:31 PM - 12 January, 2014
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I also run without USING the compressor / limiter because I know my system....but you should have it in your arsenal at a MINIMUM....


this right here you screaming at me telling me to use a compressor, i had a dbx back in the day i don't need it

"You have to do better than THAT MAN,...

Model / Serial Number"

is this the serato forum or is this CSI DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 season 3?……..lol
Joee 11:36 PM - 12 January, 2014
YOU HEAR ME TYPING CSI DJJOHNNYM_vSL3!
pdidy 11:38 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Quote:
Anyway, Joee and Pdidy,

A slightly different question...

How would you characterize the LOW END of a set of ZXA5's?

And to put it in real life terms....Say the LOW END of my Cerwins is an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10, (10 being the highest), how would you rate the ZXA5's low end, by themselves?

i haven't here'd them cv's in a long time so i can't give you a number i can say that you can feel the bass under your feet you will hear close by doors rattle , you would swear you had a sub woofer !!!!!!

not shaking down the walls but a nice bass

The same for me, its been more than 10yrs since ive heard that CV top and even then it was used with a sub and crossed over so I'd be lyin if I answered that question. My boy owns the Sonic version so thats the most current I can compare it to.... i26.photobucket.com .As far as spl and sound quality the zxa5 was a clear winner but I cant call low end because it was always used with a sub.

Btw, How do you use the CV stand alone full range on the ground ?
Joee 11:38 PM - 12 January, 2014
cdn1-www.playstationlifestyle.net

is that you on the left johnny?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:45 PM - 12 January, 2014
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I also run without USING the compressor / limiter because I know my system....but you should have it in your arsenal at a MINIMUM....
this right here you screaming at me telling me to use a compressor, i had a dbx back in the day i don't need it

"You have to do better than THAT MAN,...

Model / Serial Number"

is this the serato forum or is this CSI DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 season 3?……..lol


Hell, I've got a BBE, but only use it to make "Pretty Lights", or if I'm INSIDE THE CRIB, and want deep low end and a low volume, I'll punch it in...

lol @ CSI....Ok fine....

But you STILL need to invest in SOME type of In-Line Processing so cats won't be blowin' ya sh*t...

I
wish
a
muhfugga
would
blow
a
$1,300.00
speaker of mine.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:47 PM - 12 January, 2014
Quote:

Btw, How do you use the CV stand alone full range on the ground ?


Always have....

Just always needed to have enough headroom to drive them clearly....

Again, for WEDDINGS?

It's total overkill...

Anything more, I was using a tri amped rig.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:48 PM - 12 January, 2014
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cdn1-www.playstationlifestyle.net

is that you on the left johnny?


I refuse to answer that on the grounds that it may BE me...

#Justsayin...
pdidy 11:51 PM - 12 January, 2014
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Btw, How do you use the CV stand alone full range on the ground ?


Always have....

Just always needed to have enough headroom to drive them clearly....

Again, for WEDDINGS?

It's total overkill...

Anything more, I was using a tri amped rig.

Just notice Joee asked the same question.
Joee 11:52 PM - 12 January, 2014
^ lmao

Quote:

I
wish
a
muhfugga
would
blow
a
$1,300.00
speaker of mine.

i'm usually the only one on them, but he paid to fix no harm no foul
Joee 11:54 PM - 12 January, 2014
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cdn1-www.playstationlifestyle.net

is that you on the left johnny?


I refuse to answer that on the grounds that it may BE me...

#Justsayin...

^lmao
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:59 PM - 12 January, 2014
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i'm usually the only one on them, but he paid to fix no harm no foul


Ok, you got lucky then...

Get a compressor man...stop playin.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:01 AM - 13 January, 2014
www.ebay.com

22 bucks will save you a LOT of headache...

I bought mine for like 150.00 back in the day....

Stop playin...Your ears ain't that GOOD....
Joee 12:02 AM - 13 January, 2014
^ man these days i carry nothing but 4 rcf's a ddj sx lights etc.
Joee 12:04 AM - 13 January, 2014
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Stop playin...Your ears ain't that GOOD....

3 years without a single issue, than they blow when another dj gets on fyi i heard it happening i just couldn't get there fast enough


i'd say my ears are good!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:07 AM - 13 January, 2014
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Stop playin...Your ears ain't that GOOD....


3 years without a single issue, than they blow when another dj gets on fyi i heard it happening i just couldn't get there fast enough

i'd say my ears are good!


Ok, so then your FEET ain't good enough to GET you there quick enough....LMAO.

A compressor would have saved you the headache.

Nobody would dispute that fact.
Joee 12:11 AM - 13 January, 2014
^ but how do you know my feet weren't good enough? maybe the street had holes in it that were slowing me down?


HMMMMMMMMM……...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:12 AM - 13 January, 2014
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^ but how do you know my feet weren't good enough? maybe the street had holes in it that were slowing me down?

HMMMMMMMMM……...


Then you should be suing the city...
Joee 12:14 AM - 13 January, 2014
^ how i'm i gonna sue i din't fall
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:16 AM - 13 January, 2014
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^ how i'm i gonna sue i din't fall


Doesn't matter...

Did the street have potholes or something?

Sue the estate.

You could have had NEW EV's by now.
Joee 12:21 AM - 13 January, 2014
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Quote:
^ how i'm i gonna sue i din't fall


Doesn't matter...

Did the street have potholes or something?

Sue the estate.

You could have had NEW EV's by now.


www.thefancarpet.com
i knew that was you, how else would you know all this legal advise
Joee 12:23 AM - 13 January, 2014
FYI i had this & sold it i never used it
www.harmonycentral.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:24 AM - 13 January, 2014
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FYI i had this & sold it i never used it

www.harmonycentral.com


SMH...
Joee 12:28 AM - 13 January, 2014
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FYI i had this & sold it i never used it

www.harmonycentral.com


SMH...

for real, i sold it along with my heavy ass qsc mx2000
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:29 AM - 13 January, 2014
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FYI i had this & sold it i never used it

www.harmonycentral.com


SMH...


for real, i sold it along with my heavy ass qsc mx2000


Oh, I believe you, but I'm still SMH....
Joee 12:34 AM - 13 January, 2014
i used to have this bad boy in the rack with the dbx
www.sanyo-densi.com

i don't miss it at all
Joee 12:41 AM - 13 January, 2014
^ that amp use to push these speakers

www.musiciansbuy.com

i loved them speakers, the bass was better than the zxa5 IMHO
Dj Nyce 2:41 AM - 13 January, 2014
i bought a pair of zxa5's solely after reading on here for a long time. didn't even have to demo them. my logic was that if so many people were adamant about one specific product they had to be worth it. similar to how people take about 1200s and the 57.

when i got the ev's i couldn't believe it. best dj purchase i made since my 1st pair of 1200s and the rane 57.

i don't own subs, but i rent yorkies all the time. the first time i got my ev's i did one to one and you couldn't even tell that the yorkies where on. i thought i had a bad pair. and this was with the ev's at -12!.

p.s. my first pair of speakers where jbl eon 515xt's...what a fucking joke.
pdidy 3:11 AM - 13 January, 2014
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i bought a pair of zxa5's solely after reading on here for a long time. didn't even have to demo them. my logic was that if so many people were adamant about one specific product they had to be worth it. similar to how people take about 1200s and the 57.

when i got the ev's i couldn't believe it. best dj purchase i made since my 1st pair of 1200s and the rane 57.

i don't own subs, but i rent yorkies all the time. the first time i got my ev's i did one to one and you couldn't even tell that the yorkies where on. i thought i had a bad pair. and this was with the ev's at -12!.

p.s. my first pair of speakers where jbl eon 515xt's...what a fucking joke.

I can imagine ALOT/MOST people think that we are exaggerating about how incredible the ZXA5's are. If I were them I would doubt it too but its real....lol
pdidy 3:12 AM - 13 January, 2014
@ Dj Nyce, how many jbl eon 515xt's would it take to keep up with 1 zxa5 ?
Joee 10:26 AM - 13 January, 2014
^ ……..lol, from what i hear about those newest eons 6
Joee 11:27 AM - 13 January, 2014
believe it or not this speaker here out preformed the zxa5 in terms of bass output
en.audiofanzine.com

it didn't get as loud as the zxa4 but the bass was crazy, i'd say the reason was the sheer size of the box & how much air was being moved, i would love to hear the woofer in this box swapped with the DVX 3150 thats the woofer in the zxa5
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i can only imagine…..
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:03 PM - 13 January, 2014
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my logic was that if so many people were adamant about one specific product they had to be worth it. similar to how people take about 1200s and the 57.


Now we're talking MY logic, and I agree wholeheartedly. But the closer I get to purchasing these, the more I realized that it was only a select few who had them.

So I had to find out WHY it's only a select few?

The price.....Which I'm OK WITH, as long as it's a quality product.

My thing is when I buy something, I want it to be the LAST of whatever it is that I need for the foreseeable future...

That's how I base ALL of my purchases....

I never buy anything with the intention of ever "reselling" or "trading in".
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:06 PM - 13 January, 2014
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I can imagine ALOT/MOST people think that we are exaggerating about how incredible the ZXA5's are. If I were them I would doubt it too but its real....lol


That would be me, but I also watch to see how technically savvy specific people are when they talk about speakers and amplification on here. With that said, I can generally tell who's blowin' smoke, and who actually knows their *ish.

Joee was kinda on the edge there for a min...lol, but man when he told me he doesn't have any "Sound Processing" in his audio chain....man, he killed it for me....LMAO.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:07 PM - 13 January, 2014
Joee, what do you use for an equalizer for your system?
Joee 1:42 PM - 13 January, 2014
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Joee was kinda on the edge there for a min...lol, but man when he told me he doesn't have any "Sound Processing" in his audio chain....man, he killed it for me....LMAO.



just cause i don't use a compressor/limiter or eq doesn't mean i don't my sh@t

it means i'm making my life as simple as possible, these days my rig consist of 4 rcf speaker a ddj sx some uplighting/micro lasers/micro effects lights, all my lights and wires fit in a suitcase on wheels……if they want videos i take a projector & shine it on the wall

setup/teardown time is super fast, i want to be in and out FAST the less i carry the better,I'm not into impressing anyone now a days with big systems/turntables/etc. as long as i go in make sure everyone has a good time & call me back for future gigs I'm good



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Joee, what do you use for an equalizer for your system?


i used to run a dual 15 band rane eq but not any more sold it, i find that the speakers i like generally don't need eq'ing for me they sound good out the box, now the speakers i don't like i'd need a eq all day to taylor the sound to my liking JBL/QSC to name a few i hate the horns to dame harsh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:52 PM - 13 January, 2014
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just cause i don't use a compressor/limiter or eq doesn't mean i don't my sh@t


You leaving a DJ you don't even know on your 1300.00 apiece speakers with no compressor/limiter in the audio chain brings into question your understanding of fundamental elements when it comes to sound reproduction... :-x.

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it means i'm making my life as simple as possible, these days my rig consist of 4 rcf speaker a ddj sx some uplighting/micro lasers/micro effects lights, all my lights and wires fit in a suitcase on wheels if they want videos i take a projector & shine it on the wall
Ain't nobody talking about lights or video, (we've already covered that...lmao) ……

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setup/teardown time is super fast, i want to be in and out FAST the less i carry the better,I'm not into impressing anyone now a days with big systems/turntables/etc. as long as i go in make sure everyone has a good time & call me back for future gigs I'm good


So wait a minute, when I say that I accomplish ALL of that with MY current setup, you're telling me I need to UPGRADE this and BUY that.....lol..

Oh how the tables have "Turned!"

You still cool in my book tho...

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i used to run a dual 15 band rane eq but not any more sold it,

SMH...So you basically use the equalizer on the MIXER....

Just SMH all day long......

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i find that the speakers i like generally don't need eq'ing for me they sound good out the box, now the speakers i don't like i'd need a eq all day to taylor the sound to my liking JBL/QSC to name a few i hate the horns to dame harsh


Oh
My
Gawd...
Joee 2:10 PM - 13 January, 2014
" You leaving a DJ you don't even know on your 1300.00 apiece speakers with no compressor/limiter in the audio chain brings into question your understanding of fundamental elements when it comes to sound reproduction... :-x."

not a stranger a boy of mine that has never had issues with his gear so i thought nothing of it

"So wait a minute, when I say that I accomplish ALL of that with MY current setup, you're telling me I need to UPGRADE this and BUY that.....lol.."

you upgrade to make your life easier (big ass heavy speaker/amp) & sound better while doing so, cause there aint no cervin vega speaker that sounds as good as any ev I've heard


"SMH...So you basically use the equalizer on the MIXER....

Just SMH all day long……"

yes cause it sound good SMH my head up and down SMH SHM

"Oh
My
Gawd…"

it's a new world out there johnny, when you get your hand on some newer RCF, EV speakers you will know how good a speaker can sound, i'm just sayin……
Joee 2:24 PM - 13 January, 2014
let me put it in to prospective for you johnny, you bring your big heavy ass v35's both of them & your mx1500a limiter & eq

i bring one of my zxa5's


we set up next to each other and turn up full volume, i would need to turn down my ev for you to hear your cv's


go all CSI on that …….BOOM!!!!!

you still cool in my book…….lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:24 PM - 13 January, 2014
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not a stranger a boy of mine that has never had issues with his gear so i thought nothing of it


You still should have know better...but hey he paid for the repair...so...

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you upgrade to make your life easier (big ass heavy speaker/amp) & sound better while doing so, cause there aint no cervin vega speaker that sounds as good as any ev I've heard


I agree with making my life easier. But again, for what I was moving around, (2 speakers), and the sound it gave me, plus now the question of if the BASS from the EV's will match the 2 Cerwins I have is debatable), my setup and breakdown was quick enough from me. I'd make 2 trips in relation to speakers whereas you'd make 4. AND they were on wheels. The fact that you're NOT carrying a "Processing Rack" is a separate thread all by itself, but if you think about it, I'd have LESS to worry about in setup even when it comes to AC distribution.

I'd have ONE amp to power up ...

vs.

You having 4 separate speakers to find power for.

So you see where MY life was "easier".

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yes cause it sound good SMH my head up and down SMH SHM


You do know that different rooms have different characteristics that would need differing levels of equalization, right?

You could be in a carpeted room, a hardwood floor room, a room with high ceilings, all types of scenarios...

The EQ on your MIXER should be FLAT to start off with, only making adjustments for the different songs you may mix in that need a particular setting for EQ to sound good.

The EQ is NOT the starting place for setting the ROOM ACOUSTICS....

So you basically set your Mixer's EQ to match the room acoustics, then proceed to mix, and possibly change EQ setting AGAIN per song if needed....while taking into consideration that you still have to compensate for the room...

OMG.

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it's a new world out there johnny,

I agree, but FUNDAMENTALS of Audio haven't changed my dude.....

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when you get your hand on some newer RCF, EV speakers you will know how good a speaker can sound, i'm just sayin……


I already know how good RCF's sound. I've had them longer than ANY of you in my Sonics....remember?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:28 PM - 13 January, 2014
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let me put it in to prospective for you johnny, you bring your big heavy ass v35's both of them & your mx1500a limiter & eq

i bring one of my zxa5's

we set up next to each other and turn up full volume, i would need to turn down my ev for you to hear your cv's


I actually WOULD love to do that, so I can HEAR those ZXA5's in real life.

Now again, we've already addressed that the MID/HIGH end is far superior, but now I'm concerned about the LOW END.

The reason being is that I was looking for the ZXA5's to completely REPLACE the Cerwins in both small events and anything else I'd use the Cerwins in.

If I find out I'd still need the LOW END of the Cerwins then that's something I'd have to plan for.

I'm already sold on the EV's, but am just mapping out how effectively I could use them.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:29 PM - 13 January, 2014
The Cerwins may be relatively big, BUT that is a lot of wood, which translates into solid bass reinforcement.
Joee 2:39 PM - 13 January, 2014
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I already know how good RCF's sound. I've had them longer than ANY of you in my Sonics....remember?

agreed but that was just rcf woofers not rcf speakers with built in amps and processors



as for room acoustics they have never NEVER EVER EVER ever been a issues for me, I've played in school gym with no echo using my little zxa1/zxa1 sub combo that i sold wit NO eq

as for the bass the zxa5 put out compared to the v35, there are 18's no? in a big wooden box thats got to be some good bass right there


but make no mistake the zxa5 is amazing when it comes to bass output vs size/lbs
back of box
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front of box
imageshack.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:52 PM - 13 January, 2014
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I already know how good RCF's sound. I've had them longer than ANY of you in my Sonics....remember?


agreed but that was just rcf woofers not rcf speakers with built in amps and processors

as for room acoustics they have never NEVER EVER EVER ever been a issues for me, I've played in school gym with no echo using my little zxa1/zxa1 sub combo that i sold wit NO eq


You're basically saying that your system WITHOUT an EQ parameter has worked in ALL instances for you....

Interesting....

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as for the bass the zxa5 put out compared to the v35, there are 18's no? in a big wooden box thats got to be some good bass right there


Yes, they are 18's correct.

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but make no mistake the zxa5 is amazing when it comes to bass output vs size/lbs

back of box

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front of box

imageshack.com



I'm not worried about size to sound ratio, I'm concerned if they're gonna equal (in bass) what I have now....
Joee 3:00 PM - 13 January, 2014
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You're basically saying that your system WITHOUT an EQ parameter has worked in ALL instances for you....

Interesting….




remember i'm not that dj that wants to fill the hole room with sound to the point were people have to scream at each other, i want there to be some places in the room were people can walk off to mingle i do private stuff weddings etc. not clubs, not that i'd have a problem filling any room with sound

the ev zxa5 is a amazing little speaker but lets be honest do i think that a 15 is going to bass better than a 18? no it's physics the bigger speaker moves more air

do i know that the zxa5 will sound better than you cv HELL yea
Joee 3:02 PM - 13 January, 2014
^ and can cover a bigger audience than your cv's i would feel comfortable doing a 500 person even with the zxa5 maybe even 600 stand alone on poles
Joee 3:03 PM - 13 January, 2014
but again i'm not playing reggae all night either
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:39 PM - 13 January, 2014
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^ and can cover a bigger audience than your cv's i would feel comfortable doing a 500 person even with the zxa5 maybe even 600 stand alone on poles


Again, you're paying 1,300.00 a speaker....I would HOPE SO....

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but again i'm not playing reggae all night either


See, I play Bass Heavy, so again we'll see...
DJ GaFFle 4:45 PM - 13 January, 2014
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^ and can cover a bigger audience than your cv's i would feel comfortable doing a 500 person even with the zxa5 maybe even 600 stand alone on poles

You're talking with subs right? ... and bIG subs for that many people?

This has been discussed before but at this point, I wouldn't do a party over 200 with only a pair of ZXA5's. I just don't believe in trying to get by with a couple of speakers on sticks.

@JohhnyM, how do you get your CV's in the air above the people's heads? I'm guessing the CVs aren't pole mountable.

(nm)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:15 PM - 13 January, 2014
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@JohhnyM, how do you get your CV's in the air above the people's heads? I'm guessing the CVs aren't pole mountable


I don't need them over people's heads....

I've never had a problem with mid/high dispersion....
Joee 5:48 PM - 13 January, 2014
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^ and can cover a bigger audience than your cv's i would feel comfortable doing a 500 person even with the zxa5 maybe even 600 stand alone on poles

You're talking with subs right? ... and bIG subs for that many people?

This has been discussed before but at this point, I wouldn't do a party over 200 with only a pair of ZXA5's. I just don't believe in trying to get by with a couple of speakers on sticks.

@JohhnyM, how do you get your CV's in the air above the people's heads? I'm guessing the CVs aren't pole mountable.

(nm)

i don't play for 500 people with zxa5, i just said i would be comfortable doing so i don't play bass heavy i play latin mostly

& i don't need the air vents falling from the celling or plaster coming lose from the walls…..lol
DjCity 5:54 PM - 13 January, 2014
Ok

I am getting a Driverack PX to handle the EV's and the Yorkvills.

My question is...

How do I set the limiter for the EV's? I don't want to limit too much but I want to protect the drivers.

Is there anything I need to know to get MORE out of my speakers with the Driverack PX?
DjCity 5:55 PM - 13 January, 2014
Also...

Where can I get a threaded pole mount for the Yorkvills? I want to change them out.
the_black_one 5:58 PM - 13 January, 2014
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Ok

I am getting a Driverack PX to handle the EV's and the Yorkvills.

My question is...

How do I set the limiter for the EV's? I don't want to limit too much but I want to protect the drivers.

Is there anything I need to know to get MORE out of my speakers with the Driverack PX?


The yorkys
Dj Nyce 6:02 PM - 13 January, 2014
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@ Dj Nyce, how many jbl eon 515xt's would it take to keep up with 1 zxa5 ?


if i had to guestimate, i would say you would need 2-3 eon 515xt's to keep up 1 with zxa5.
the_black_one 6:02 PM - 13 January, 2014
The yorks are going to limit first before the tops ... Just set the limiter on the tops to the same as the sub. So your limiting at the sAme point. You will not blow the tops if you compress at the same point as the subs in your case. As you buy more subs then this will change buy for now ... Find the limitations on your subs first then just limit the tops the same .

Nm nh
the_black_one 6:14 PM - 13 January, 2014
And one thing.... Everything that I have read on sound and on horns and subs... Horns are to set up high and subs on the ground. You have the horns hitting people in the chest??? Sorry but I don't like that... Fly your higher frequency boxes and ground your bass. That cv speaker contradicts many sound rules ... Just saying ... The sub in the ground is ok but the horn hitting people on their waist ... Hummmmmmm.

Nm nh nb
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:37 PM - 13 January, 2014
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That cv speaker contradicts many sound rules ...


Times have changed. They USED to be paired with the Jr. Earthquake subs for optimum coverage and bass as they could sit on top of the subs, but for a WEDDING?

I'm not bringing subs for a wedding, lol.

All I know is they knock, and they've always knocked.

CV always had great HORNS if you drove them correctly.

The Subwoofer drivers were ALWAYS suspect to me, but the folded horn cabinets set the standard for bass reinforcement.

Like I said, RCF's in the Subs, and the standalone V35's for events up to say, 200 people, no problem.
the_black_one 7:23 PM - 13 January, 2014
i can see them on top of a sub. That makes more sense. That would give someone 2 18's per side. i bet once you hat the set it would knock... I'm just glad that with today's technology..... one can reach those volumes and then some with smaller more compact and way less heavy equipment. One of the main reasons why i do like the EVs is because they dont have a limiter .... I like setting that up myself. You will always find a 32 band eq,compressor limiter and a crossover in my rack along side with a driverack. Depending on what the job needs, i use whatever is best suited for it ... doing bands and live acts it's best to use the eq for better control of feedback. i will never run with out processing ... not a knock on joee but it's hard for me to ever do myself


NM NH NB
pdidy 7:28 PM - 13 January, 2014
@ DJJOHNNYM_vSL3, It just occurred to me that under your particular case the bass from the CV and zxa5 can not be evenly compared.

The bass that you're experiencing from the CV is due to ground coupling which can add an addition 6db of output in the lower bass frequencies. This was not the speakers intended use but it works for your applications. The CV is basically being used as a type of hybrid for your application.

The zxa5's are placed on stands and therefore will not partake in the benefit of ground coupling which increases bass response.

The CV is also 2 X the size and weight of the zxa5 which is an added benefit to the CV in regards to bass response.
DjCity 7:40 PM - 13 January, 2014
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Also...

Where can I get a threaded pole mount for the Yorkvills? I want to change them out.


Anyone?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:41 PM - 13 January, 2014
Ok, makes sense. So I'm not looking at the EV's replacing the CV's in their entiriety, because I'll be losing a lot of low end...

Regardless, I do need some powered joints so I can start doing these ridculously mundane events I plan on partaking in...

****sigh****
Joee 7:51 PM - 13 January, 2014
^ there is nothing ridicules about the checks being deposited or the cash in hand you will make with them
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:56 PM - 13 January, 2014
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^ there is nothing ridicules about the checks being deposited or the cash in hand you will make with them


Oh, I already know....

That's why I'm researching the EV's.

If I'm gonna do these types of events, no need to break my back.
the_black_one 7:59 PM - 13 January, 2014
i also feel the same about too many speakers on stands .... i wish there was some other solution that was as convenient as a stand .... i know they have covers for them but i just dont like that look .... way toooo cheesy ..... the old days you didn't need stands .... The speakers themselves were huge.... no stands needed.


nm nh nb
Joee 8:09 PM - 13 January, 2014
If I'm gonna do these types of events, no need to break my back.
ahhh….well looky here the guy that said there on casters i roll um in easy, said i'm not going to be breaking my back


and that is why you upgrade ,to make life easier and faster time is money spend more time making it & not carrying gear………


BOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!
Joee 8:12 PM - 13 January, 2014
nm nh nb
what is this NB, is this something you made up? what is it no bullish!t?
Joee 8:15 PM - 13 January, 2014
i vote WE ALL don't talk to johnny about zxa5's anymore it's been tooooo long since he started asking about them over a year ago i think & he still has not bought them


at this point if he wants to know anything else he has to buy his own



who's wit me here?

LMAO……….
the_black_one 8:17 PM - 13 January, 2014
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i vote WE ALL don't talk to johnny about zxa5's anymore it's been tooooo long since he started asking about them over a year ago i think & he still has not bought them


at this point if he wants to know anything else he has to buy his own



who's wit me here?

LMAO……….



no thing new for him .... go look at the mac fiasco .......

NM NH NB = NO BARBARA
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:45 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and that is why you upgrade ,to make life easier and faster time is money spend more time making it & not carrying gear………

BOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!


LMAO ! Didn't you see what Pdidy typed? I'd have MUCH more bass response with what I have...

No worries tho, I plan to start up doing some mad cheesy events where people don't really CARE about the sound, or the mix.....

So, my thing is to get IN and get OUT...

I can't believe I just said that...

But you still won't find me with a "controller"...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:45 PM - 13 January, 2014
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nm nh nb
what is this NB, is this something you made up? what is it no bullish!t?


It's means Not Black....

Which we already know...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:46 PM - 13 January, 2014
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i vote WE ALL don't talk to johnny about zxa5's anymore it's been tooooo long since he started asking about them over a year ago i think & he still has not bought them

at this point if he wants to know anything else he has to buy his own

who's wit me here?

LMAO……….


So says the man with no sound processing in his unit....LMAO...

Yeah, you're qualified to answer those Audio questions alright....

Now you see why I always would ask for a 2nd opinion from Pdidy... :-)

You still cool in my book tho....
Joee 8:50 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and that is why you upgrade ,to make life easier and faster time is money spend more time making it & not carrying gear………

BOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!


LMAO ! Didn't you see what Pdidy typed? I'd have MUCH more bass response with what I have...

No worries tho, I plan to start up doing some mad cheesy events where people don't really CARE about the sound, or the mix.....

So, my thing is to get IN and get OUT...

I can't believe I just said that...

..


BOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:53 PM - 13 January, 2014
Ummm....that really didn't mean anything, but yeah...lol.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 9:00 PM - 13 January, 2014
I wanted those zxa5's but I could not rationalize the cost. I said fuck it and settled for the ELX115's.
the_black_one 9:00 PM - 13 January, 2014
When it come to sound..... Gaffle, piddy, nyce, and al are dudes i trust their opinion because i agree with 99.9 of what hey type in here .... Not once have i disagree with what they have said and they have never disagreed with what i have had to say when it comes to sound. So yeah ...... the way them CV are used on the floor like that are not how they were intended to be used .... that folks use them in such way i get but it's not optimal. You must run subs... that's just my opinion...... How compact and light they are now is crazy!!! no excuse for not having one no matter what tops your using.

nm nh
Joee 9:01 PM - 13 January, 2014
yes it did you just admitted that your trying to make you life easier buy carrying smaller lighter speakers……after saying that carrying those (v35) big heavy speakers & 50lbs amp was no big deal

now you want lighter ……your suspect right now


BOOOOOMMMMMM!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:06 PM - 13 January, 2014
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yes it did you just admitted that your trying to make you life easier buy carrying smaller lighter speakers……after saying that carrying those (v35) big heavy speakers & 50lbs amp was no big deal

now you want lighter ……your suspect right now

BOOOOOMMMMMM!


I want lighter BECAUSE I'll be doing the cheesy events....

That is all...lmao.
Joee 9:07 PM - 13 January, 2014
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I wanted those zxa5's but I could not rationalize the cost. I said fuck it and settled for the ELX115's.

i don't care what nobody say! made in china and all them elx's sound GOOD better than speakers that cost more money



i used them since day one, sold them after i got my rcf's
the_black_one 9:09 PM - 13 January, 2014
at his point my next speakers are going to be some rcf or yamaha

I'm no where close to al in speakers but working on it. :)


nm nh
Joee 9:10 PM - 13 January, 2014
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yes it did you just admitted that your trying to make you life easier buy carrying smaller lighter speakers……after saying that carrying those (v35) big heavy speakers & 50lbs amp was no big deal

now you want lighter ……your suspect right now

BOOOOOMMMMMM!


I want lighter BECAUSE I'll be doing the cheesy events....

That is all...lmao.

NA NA NAAAA, don't back peddle now!!!!!!

man up say the truth, that what i been saying all along is right & $1,300 for a speaker means NOTHING cause that speaker will pay for itself in no time


PS
if you want that speaker for cheesy events and don't care about the sound then get some gemini's i hear they came a LONG way
Joee 9:12 PM - 13 January, 2014
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at his point my next speakers are going to be some rcf or yamaha

I'm no where close to al in speakers but working on it. :)


nm nh

RCF……..i'm telling you that top end is sweeter
the_black_one 9:20 PM - 13 January, 2014
actually what i really want is a set of them bad boys here www.danleysoundlabs.com

pushed by www.zzounds.com


call it a day .......

NM NH
DJ GaFFle 9:20 PM - 13 January, 2014
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... I said fuck it and settled for the ELX115's.

You may have settled but they aren't bad at all. My only gripe with them is they chip super easy and the grill is thin'ish.

(nm)
DJ Val-BKNY11203 9:23 PM - 13 January, 2014
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... I said fuck it and settled for the ELX115's.

You may have settled but they aren't bad at all. My only gripe with them is they chip super easy and the grill is thin'ish.

(nm)


I love em. In time I will get a sub. I'll rent when I need one.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:25 PM - 13 January, 2014
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NA NA NAAAA, don't back peddle now!!!!!!

man up say the truth, that what i been saying all along is right & $1,300 for a speaker means NOTHING cause that speaker will pay for itself in no time

PS
if you want that speaker for cheesy events and don't care about the sound then get some gemini's i hear they came a LONG way


See, now this is why I KNOW you're dilusional.

Didn't I say I expect the CV's to rot out some time in the future?

So I need to be on the hunt for a replacement option?

And again, like I said, if I buy something, either for Cheesy Events or Pro, it's gonna be worth the money, as I fully expect it to be the last of such item I'd need to buy.
the_black_one 9:26 PM - 13 January, 2014
telling you ...... Craigslist is your friend .... you can pick up equipment on the cheap .... tons of cats not knowing what they have ..... Val .... good man on getting a sub.

nm nh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:27 PM - 13 January, 2014
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When it come to sound..... Gaffle, piddy, nyce, and al are dudes i trust


I have to co-sign this...

Wait, where's Joee?

lmao...

Just kidding man! Just kidding!
Joee 9:30 PM - 13 January, 2014
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See, now this is why I KNOW you're delusional.

not delusional, you just said you don't care how they sound so i suggested gemini

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When it come to sound..... Gaffle, piddy, nyce, and al are dudes i trust


I have to co-sign this...

Wait, where's Joee?



lmao...

Just kidding man! Just kidding!


joee knows his sh!t he don't need no stinking reassurance
Joee 9:32 PM - 13 January, 2014
ay johnny them gemini's will look real good with the realistic mixer


i'm just saying
DjCity 9:36 PM - 13 January, 2014
FUCKING CRAZY WHAT THESE EV ZXA5'S DO!!!!

I just got my yorkville ls801pb's. I hooked one up, hooked up a ZXA5 and DANM!!!

No Bullshit these are just about the best if not THE best single 15 out there!

I had the Yorkville set to unity and had to turn the EV down to -12 to even the sound out. That's just about 7:00 on the EV'S to 12:00 on the Yorkvilles.

Fucking Incredible!

This is just running straight from mixer to sub then sub to top.

FUCKING INCREDIBLE!!!

If you want a great powered top, EV Zxa5's without doubt is the way to go.

I may never need to get another set of tops!
Joee 9:38 PM - 13 January, 2014
^ yes the zxa5 is the BEST 15inch top, in it's price range!!!!
Joee 9:39 PM - 13 January, 2014
and fyi johnny i bought them zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew a good thing when a say it




you guys are late to the party!

MAN LISTEN….
DjCity 9:43 PM - 13 January, 2014
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When it come to sound..... Gaffle, piddy, nyce, and al are dudes i trust


I have to co-sign this...


Stamped!

I know sound but was unaware on the Zxa5's.
Good look with the recommendation of the EV's.
DjCity 9:47 PM - 13 January, 2014
Can't wait to hook up the driverack and REALLY tune the system up and dial in that precise sound.

It's gonna be gorillas and bananas!
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:49 PM - 13 January, 2014
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FUCKING CRAZY WHAT THESE EV ZXA5'S DO!!!!



I just got my yorkville ls801pb's. I hooked one up, hooked up a ZXA5 and DANM!!!



No Bullshit these are just about the best if not THE best single 15 out there!



I had the Yorkville set to unity and had to turn the EV down to -12 to even the sound out. That's just about 7:00 on the EV'S to 12:00 on the Yorkvilles.



Fucking Incredible!



This is just running straight from mixer to sub then sub to top.



FUCKING INCREDIBLE!!!



If you want a great powered top, EV Zxa5's without doubt is the way to go.



I may never need to get another set of tops!


I assume you had the tops hi passed right? Not running full range?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:50 PM - 13 January, 2014
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not delusional, you just said you don't care how they sound so i suggested gemini


Where did I EVER say I don't care how they sound?
the_black_one 9:50 PM - 13 January, 2014
so now you believe you need 3 yorks per ev



nm nh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:51 PM - 13 January, 2014
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joee knows his sh!t he don't need no stinking reassurance


LMAO! Don't get mad Twaaan....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:51 PM - 13 January, 2014
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I may never need to get another set of tops!


This is the "Real World" assurance that I look for....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:52 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and fyi johnny i bought them zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew a good thing when a say it

you guys are late to the party!

MAN LISTEN….


Dude, you buy ANYTHING when it first comes out...

lol.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:53 PM - 13 January, 2014
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Can't wait to hook up the driverack and REALLY tune the system up and dial in that precise sound.

It's gonna be gorillas and bananas!


+1 on recognizing that you need PRECISE control over sound.....
DJ Val-BKNY11203 10:04 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and fyi johnny i bought them zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew a good thing when a say it

you guys are late to the party!

MAN LISTEN….


Dude, you buy ANYTHING when it first comes out...

lol.


LOL that was funny.
Joee 10:08 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and fyi johnny i bought them zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew a good thing when a say it

you guys are late to the party!

MAN LISTEN….


Dude, you buy ANYTHING when it first comes out...

lol.


LOL that was funny.

don't start DJ Val-BKNY11203 , i played nice with you about the elx….lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:09 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and fyi johnny i bought them zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew a good thing when a say it

you guys are late to the party!

MAN LISTEN….


Dude, you buy ANYTHING when it first comes out...

lol.


LOL that was funny.

don't start DJ Val-BKNY11203 , i played nice with you about the elx….lol


Ok fine....

Dude, you buy EVERYTHING when it first comes out...

Better? :-D
Joee 10:11 PM - 13 January, 2014
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not delusional, you just said you don't care how they sound so i suggested gemini


Where did I EVER say I don't care how they sound?

see now you don fu@kd up below is you stament

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and that is why you upgrade ,to make life easier and faster time is money spend more time making it & not carrying gear………

BOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!


LMAO ! Didn't you see what Pdidy typed? I'd have MUCH more bass response with what I have...

No worries tho, I plan to start up doing some mad cheesy events where people don't really CARE about the sound, or the mix.....

So, my thing is to get IN and get OUT...

I can't believe I just said that...

But you still won't find me with a "controller"...

wait i read wrong you said the people don't care , MY BAD
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:13 PM - 13 January, 2014
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wait i read wrong you said the people don't care , MY BAD


Uh huh....

It's all good....
Joee 10:20 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and fyi johnny i bought them zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew a good thing when a say it

you guys are late to the party!

MAN LISTEN….


Dude, you buy ANYTHING when it first comes out...

lol.


LOL that was funny.




don't start DJ Val-BKNY11203 , i played nice with you about the elx….lol


Ok fine....

Dude, you buy EVERYTHING when it first comes out...

Better? :-D

i don't wanna here that joohnny, i bought the zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew they were BEST


i didn't need nobodies opinion on them or reassurance that i was buying good speakers


me being the ev man and all i knew i was making the right chose, SO i bought them site unseen & unheard $2,600 cash MONEYYYYY



and DAMN i'm i glad i did because there are unmatched buy anything close to there price range including cerwin vega v35's




………BOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!
Joee 10:21 PM - 13 January, 2014
say man i need a door stop can i borrow that v35?
the_black_one 10:27 PM - 13 January, 2014
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say man i need a door stop can i borrow that v35?




shots fired!!!

NM NH
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:31 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and DAMN i'm i glad i did because there are unmatched buy anything close to there price range including cerwin vega v35's


So you're comparing technologies decades apart?

Really?

LOL, if I were you, I'd stop right about now, because you're starting to look like the rich kid who bought stuff.....

You know....

just becuz....

:-)

And dude, read this ->
www.rane.com

There will be a quiz next week.....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:31 PM - 13 January, 2014
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say man i need a door stop can i borrow that v35?


shots fired!!!

NM NH


And that wooden azz CV will protect my azz....
the_black_one 10:36 PM - 13 January, 2014
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and DAMN i'm i glad i did because there are unmatched buy anything close to there price range including cerwin vega v35's


So you're comparing technologies decades apart?

Really?

LOL, if I were you, I'd stop right about now, because you're starting to look like the rich kid who bought stuff.....

You know....

just becuz....

:-)

And dude, read this ->
www.rane.com

There will be a quiz next week.....


simple.wikipedia.org


nm nh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:37 PM - 13 January, 2014
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i don't wanna here hear that joohnny, i bought the zxa5's when they first came out cause i knew they were BEST


Dude, how many pieces of equipment do you initially buy, and then turn right around and then sell?

Just sayin....

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i didn't need nobodies opinion on them or reassurance that i was buying good speakers


But you DO need some assistance with setting them up for Optimal sound reproduction...

It's ok...n00b mistake...

At least get that damn DriveRack....SOMETHING....lmao.

I've always been down with JBL and RCF's for lows, EV's for mids, and Peavy for highs...

My mid speakers were dedicated 12" jawns that ran FOREVER....and EVER....

Crystal clear, and never an issue...
Joee 10:40 PM - 13 January, 2014
stop typing? NEVER!!!!!!!


no rich kid here son just a working dj that started from the bottom (like drake says) & made my way to the top….lol


man listen i started out dj'ing with PVS i know you know what that is, but a lot of cats here will say what is that?


needles to say i like to improve on my gear, but all joke aside i think i'm done….lol
Joee 10:46 PM - 13 January, 2014
PVS not to be confused with PeaVey for those that don't know
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:49 PM - 13 January, 2014
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man listen i started out dj'ing with PVS i know you know what that is, but a lot of cats here will say what is that?


Of course I know what PVS is....That was the knock off Peavy series..lol...

But I'm MAD that you HAD the tools to properly construct your sound, yet sold it...

Let me drop this on you...

Did you know, depending on the source that you DIRECTLY feed your mixer into, you may unwittingly degrade the sound?

In other words, lets say you run directly into your powered speaker...

Your mixer puts out "X" amount of signal which SHOULD flow freely into the speaker, no?

That's NOT necessarily the case with ALL devices.....

Some have more resistance than others, and I'm NOT talking your standard 4/8 ohm speaker resistance neeva...

For example, set your mixer at a certain level playing a song, then attach one of the outputs to a speaker...

You MAY notice that the LED meters and / or the sound may DECREASE....

Can you imagine if you started daisy chaining stuff like that?

Your sound has deteriorated...

Now, if you feed the output of your mixer into a device that's designed to take that clear signal and process it, vs. hinder it, you're ahead of the game...

Just something to consider while you study for that quiz.

:-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:55 PM - 13 January, 2014
And Jesus Christ man, your MIXER's 3 Band EQ should NOT be your main source for shaping your sound....

I'm about to email you a damn EQ.....wtf?
Joee 11:05 PM - 13 January, 2014
^ see there you go all CSI …..now for what i do i don't need the sound to be 100% i need it to sound good not great


the people on the other side of the sound are not audio files, again the less i carry the better of i am, as long as everyone has a good time & i make my money i'm good


quiz? come on son…..
DjCity 12:16 AM - 14 January, 2014
You two need to stop with the back and forth and stop hijacking this thread.
pdidy 12:23 AM - 14 January, 2014
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You two need to stop with the back and forth and stop hijacking this thread.

Naa son, you gotta get their attention first.... i.imgur.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:25 AM - 14 January, 2014
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^ see there you go all CSI …..now for what i do i don't need the sound to be 100% i need it to sound good not great

the people on the other side of the sound are not audio files, again the less i carry the better of i am, as long as everyone has a good time & i make my money i'm good

quiz? come on son…..


Now THAT is pure laziness...

How are you gonna have the HOLY GRAIL of 15" speakers, post numerous pics of them, and not know how to make them sound GREAT?

You spent 2,600.00 bucks or more on these jawns and
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"don't need the sound to be 100%"
?

Are you serious?

That's like you buying a 1200 MKII and not knowing how to adjust the height correctly to make the cartridge work at it's optimum level...

I won't even go into mounting the cartridge, as I don't want any more bad news...

Naw, you ain't gettin' no quiz,

this has been upgraded to a full blown test...

What
In
Da
Fugg!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:27 AM - 14 January, 2014
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You two need to stop with the back and forth and stop hijacking this thread.


But we're talking about OPTIMIZING the EV ZXA5....

And DJ audio Fundamentals 101.....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:29 AM - 14 January, 2014
And got the NERVE to try to persuade people to "Upgrade"....

Oh man, I"ve got a headache again....

Joee...

Stop playin....
Joee 12:29 AM - 14 January, 2014
^ no hijack here , i'm one of the original zxa5 owners & one of the first people screaming at everyone telling them get a pair of zxa5……there the best speakers you will ever own


that was ME……..lol


JOEE!!!!!


heres a pic of my little zx family
imageshack.com

sadly the family has been split up cause i sold my zxa1'a

@ johnny if you owned them you'd know that the sound great all by they loansom





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You two need to stop with the back and forth and stop hijacking this thread.

Naa son, you gotta get their attention first.... i.imgur.com

damn!! that what i'm talking about
Joee 12:31 AM - 14 January, 2014
lets get back to the ZX @SS 5, IM SORRY ZXA5!….LOL
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:32 AM - 14 January, 2014
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@ johnny if you owned them you'd know that the sound great all by they loansom lonesome


I have no doubt as to their abilities...

But dude, you need to RTFM...

You need to understand the basics of Sound Reinforcement...

You're not respecting the audio chain...

Garbage In - Garbage Out....

You're not using those speakers to their full potential...

Waste of money....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:34 AM - 14 January, 2014
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You two need to stop with the back and forth and stop hijacking this thread.


Naa son, you gotta get their attention first.... i.imgur.com


Huh, who dat! ;-D
Joee 12:37 AM - 14 January, 2014
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You two need to stop with the back and forth and stop hijacking this thread.


Naa son, you gotta get their attention first.... i.imgur.com


Huh, who dat! ;-D

WORD!
Joee 12:44 AM - 14 January, 2014
i will keep using my zxa5's from my 62 if i take one out or my ddj sx disrespecting the audio chain


& still sounding better that 90% of the other dj's out there…..


again i own a mackie board if i wanted to i'd use it
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:18 AM - 14 January, 2014
V35C - Specs

Model - V-35C
Useable Frequency Response - 50Hz - 16kHz
EIA Power Handling Capacity - 300W
1m SPL @ 1W: 105db
1m SPL @ Rated Input: 130db
Nominal Dispersion (HxV Degrees) 90 x 40
Nominal Impedence - 8 ohms
Components
LF - (1) 188EB, 18" Cone, 3" VC
MF - (1) 16 ohm JHM-1 1" Throat
Compression Driver & 90 x 40
Controlled Coverage Horn
HF - (1) H-25 Compression Horn Tweeter
Crossovers - 1.2kHz 3pHP / 7kHz 2-Pole HP
Connections - (2) 1/4" Phone Jacks
Enclosure - Vented, Directional Front Baffle, Plywood
Finishes and Features - Indoor / Outdoor Carpet, Handles, Wheels, Metal Corners, Rubber Feet
Protection & Controls MF Auto-Resetting Relay
HF Auto-Resetting Circut Breaker
Dimensions 36"x24"x20"
Gross Weight (Packed) 125 lbs.

Description - 3 Way 18" Powerful Compact / Keyboard -

Cerwin-Vega's popular V-35C provides the power and low-end response of an 18" woofer in an enclosure the size of most 15"systems. The V-35's vocal punch, clarity, and projection have become the standards against which all competing systems are judged.
The system packs the power of a stack of equipment into a portable, compact package so unobtrusive, it's virtually invisible on stage. This high performance is achieved without the cost and complexity of biamping.

The system is a 3-way format incorporating a wide-range 18" woofer, a midrange compression driver and controlled coverage horn, and a high efficienty horn super tweeter.

The 18" 1888EB cone driver is front baffle loaded and operates in a vented enclosure optimally tuned to 50Hz. The speaker features a precision diecast aluminum frame and high power (300W EIA) 3" voicecoil. The 188EB's extended midrange response outperforms most 15" loudspeakers while still providing the powerful bass of an 18" driver.
The JHM-1 1" throat compression driver operates from the crossover at 1.2kHz to 15kHz, and utilizes an aluminum diaphragm with elastomer surround and edgewound copper-clad aluminum wire voice-coil. Beryllium-copper lead-in wires will not fatigue with repeated flexture and eliminate a potential source of failure. An aluminum flux stabilizing sleeve further reduces undesireable odd-order harmonics.

The new Controlled Coverage 90x40 degree horn provides optimum loading characteristics for the JMH-1 driver with wide, controlled dispersion over the entire operating bandwidth. The new horn covers larger audiences without spillover or hot and dead spots. High frequencies are argumented by our H-25 compression driver and integral horn (7kHz-16kHz). The H-25 features and oversize barium ferrite magnet driving a lightweight 1"phenolic dome and aluminum wife voice-coil assembly. Both the JMH-1 and H-25 are unconditionally protected against inadvertent overpowering by self resetting cicuit breakers in the crossover. The compact enclosue is heavily braced premium plywood, finished in durable indoor/outdoor carpet and fitted with recessed handles and wheels for ease of portability.

Cerwin-Vega's concept of expandable sound systems using full-range single cabinets and add-on components allows the user to accomodate virtually any application need. The V-35C is designed to integrate with other C-V components to extend bass response and/or increase high frequency throw or dispersion. The V-35 combines high efficiency and power handling in a portable format providing extremely high output with clarity and projection. The unit provides a unique combination of performance and compactness. The system is recommended for portable sound reinforcement, keyboard, and side-fill monitoring.

Cerwin-Vega's dedication to product excellence routinely includes refinements in design, materials, and workmanship. This ongoing process may result in products with differ from those represented in our descriptive literature due to improvements in design, performance, or both.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:19 AM - 14 January, 2014
So basically, this unit IS meant for standalone use, not necessarily with the need of a subwoofer...

Like I said, this joint knocks, and has been knocking for years....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:29 AM - 14 January, 2014
BTW, the quote of the day is
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as long as everyone has a good time & i make my money i'm good


Duly noted...
pdidy 2:48 AM - 14 January, 2014
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So basically, this unit IS meant for standalone use, not necessarily with the need of a subwoofer......

I don't think anyone is debating its ability for stand alone use, The fact that its not properly elevated is in Question.
the_black_one 3:22 AM - 14 January, 2014
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So basically, this unit IS meant for standalone use, not necessarily with the need of a subwoofer......

I don't think anyone is debating its ability for stand alone use, The fact that its not properly elevated is in Question.


agree. horns hitting your waist or chest is the issue.

NM NH
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:27 AM - 14 January, 2014
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So basically, this unit IS meant for standalone use, not necessarily with the need of a subwoofer......


I don't think anyone is debating its ability for stand alone use, The fact that its not properly elevated is in Question.


I dunno, I've never had a problem with highs, clarity and coverage, and I've done DENSELY populated events at times...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:30 AM - 14 January, 2014
If I was doing an event of 300+ people, then I'd see the need for elevation, but remember this isn't your average midrange horn...

This is like how those early Peavey horns were....

img7.imageshack.us

But much more portable....
DjCity 4:11 AM - 14 January, 2014
I'm gonna go ahead and chime in on this.

Physics just don't change no matter what.

Highs are directional. They go where you point them.
If your horns are at waist level, NO MATTER WHAT… you will lose sound AS SOON AS ANYONE OR ANYTHING gets in front of that horn.

Johnny, i'm not trying to get in the middle of your epic debate nor am I saying anything against your speakers (I had a pair about 13 years ago and they were great speakers) but…

According to what you are saying in this thread, your highs are as amazing and as impracticle as the single bullet Lee Harvey Oswald used to assassinate JFK .

Your highs must go straight THEN magically turn corners and go around people to reach the back of the room.
Now that's a magical high signal!

When I used the CV's, I used them on stage so the horns were pretty much just over heads.

I wound up getting rid of them and getting the dual 15 Peavey's that look just like the CV's (I don't remember the model).

I got them because it was easier to get that big ass horn over the crowds heads.

The CV's on single 18 sub cabs on the floor still was not tall enough to get the horns high enough.

I got rid of the Peaveys because they were too damn heavy!
That's when I went to single 15's on poles with single 18 subs.

From there I just keep upgrading till I finally got the Yorkvills and ZXA5's.

The CV's are great on the floor with no sub if you are doing a party for short midgets.

AGAIN… I AM NOT TRYING TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS AND AM NOT SPEAKING AGAINST YOUR SPEAKERS!!!!

Peace, Love and James Brown coin it to death.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:48 AM - 14 January, 2014
I don't know how else to explain it...

I can do a Party of 200+ people with NO problem...

It's always a rectangle room, and people are always at least 10-15 feet from the speaker...

Nobody is standing directly in front of the horn.

lol @ your disclaimers tho...

Hey, it is what it is.
Joee 11:33 AM - 14 January, 2014
^ talking al that TRASH about me not using compressor/limiter/eq, saying i don't know sound


but in the mean time your highs are hitting people in the crotch highs are meant to me high……"thats sound 101"


STOP fronton you fill the room & put all them people in front of the speaker & the sound gets muffled




but your telling us that you can fill the room and not have any issues? your not using the speakers to there full potential were did i read that? thats a waist of money i read that some ware too


STOP FRONTIN


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Your highs must go straight THEN magically turn corners and go around people to reach the back of the room.
Now that's a magical high signal!

.

.lol……quote of the day here, magic horns…….lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:34 PM - 14 January, 2014
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.lol……quote of the day here,....lol


No the actual quote of the YEAR is you saying
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what i do i don't need the sound to be 100% i need it to sound good not great


Then again, that should not surprise me as you said this in a different tread - >
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i'm not one of these people saying i'm all about the craft of djing …….for me this is my life literally it's how i make a living pay the mortgage/car note/bills etc. & make a pretty nice living doing so


So, NOW I understand why you're half-assing it with NO a 3 -BAND HOUSE EQ.....

So, yeah...

Talk about those "Magical Highs" all you want....lmao...

Richie Rich in the building'..... ;-0

We cool tho... ;-D
DjCity 5:28 PM - 14 January, 2014
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Physics just don't change no matter what.


According to what you are saying in this thread, your highs are as amazing and as impracticle as the single bullet Lee Harvey Oswald used to assassinate JFK .

Your highs must go straight THEN magically turn corners and go around people to reach the back of the room.
Now that's a magical high signal!



^^^
This
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:39 PM - 14 January, 2014
So back to the original topic!! lol

I made some jumpers last night for my ZXA5s. I made 1 extra powercon input, 1 powrecon out to powercon in and 1 powercon out to iec.

Very cool thing I noticed which I wasn't sure was present on my RCF sub 718 that had IEC to IEC jumpers is that even with the unit off, power still goes through. The unit does not have to be on for the power out to be functioning. Not sure I ever really tried to do that on my RCF, but I was testing out the cables I made yesterday and found this to be true. I thought that is pretty cool feature.
DjCity 7:23 PM - 14 January, 2014
That's good to know.

I'm making my PowerCon cables now. I will see if my EV's and Yorkvills work the same way.

Side note…

I ordered the threaded speaker pole mounts for the Yorkvills.
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:50 PM - 14 January, 2014
Nice. I'm not sure I would ever need an instance where I would need that power on/off feature but still good to know. I was always afraid of jumping from one to the other in the event the main one shuts off...guess I wouldn't need to worry about that then.

How long of jumpers are you making? I made 15ft each. The way I set up my system that is more than enough. I did not make one to go to the Yorkville. I will keep that separate.
DjCity 8:09 PM - 14 January, 2014
Only 6 ft.

I'm jumping from the EV's to the Yorkvills when I stack them.
Joee 8:12 PM - 14 January, 2014
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.lol……quote of the day here,....lol


No the actual quote of the YEAR is you saying
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what i do i don't need the sound to be 100% i need it to sound good not great


Then again, that should not surprise me as you said this in a different tread - >
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i'm not one of these people saying i'm all about the craft of djing …….for me this is my life literally it's how i make a living pay the mortgage/car note/bills etc. & make a pretty nice living doing so


So, NOW I understand why you're half-assing it with NOa 3 -BAND HOUSE EQ.....

So, yeah...

Talk about those "Magical Highs" all you want....lmao...

Richie Rich in the building'..... ;-0

We cool tho... ;-D

ok…..now you see the light, i do what i do to make my life easy on a mobile gig want to be in and out as fast as posable, i'm not providing club level sound here i'm doing weddings birthdays etc.

don't say i don't know my sh!t not using compressors eq's etc. preach all this stuff to me about not using my gear to it's full potential etc.

in the mean time you kind of doing the same thing by having your highs hit people in the torso when you know d@mn well them joints is are designed to be in the air


fyi….i'm using all my gear to it's full potential I'M getting PAID with it….how much better can i use it?


i don't want to get to far of topic here cause we are talking about Electro Voice ZXA5 here so let me bring it back


after all this talk about ZXA5'S will you be buying a pair? hummmmmmm? when you post a pic of one next to a realistic mixer i'll never ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER talk about any of your old ass gear again realistic qsc mx amps witch are OLD as hell

i'll keep my mouf shut!!!!!!!!!!! then we work on getting you some uplights & you'll be golden son
the_black_one 8:31 PM - 14 January, 2014
Just picked up a pair of older makies sa1521z.... Cheap!! Great shape ... Going to set them up and do an a to b comparison with my ev's ...

Nm nh
Joee 8:33 PM - 14 January, 2014
are those them big 15's wood box mackies ? them things use to knock still no comparison for the zxa5 tho
the_black_one 8:40 PM - 14 January, 2014
Yep. Those are it... Heavy as fuck.

Nm nh
the_black_one 8:41 PM - 14 January, 2014
I don't know of by then they made the switch from rfc to crap... Anyone want to chime in??

Nm nh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:07 PM - 14 January, 2014
Dude,

You said it all right here -
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i'm not one of these people saying i'm all about the craft of djing


Which means you're not in it necessarily for the ART but for the MONEY...

Hmmmm....what do we say to n00bs on here when they tell us that? :-X

I get it, you're SALESMAN.....

You're trying to sell EV's...

You're trying to sell Lights....

And you're trying to sell any "OLD" equipment that happens to age....i.e (equalizers that you NEED...LOL)

You say
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i'm using all my gear to it's full potential I'M getting PAID with it


Dude, isn't that what I'M DOING? lmao...

Again, WHO is the person who would sweat what ANOTHER DJ is using?

But another DJ....

Or should we call you a SALESMAN?

Pick a side. :-D.

Oh, yeah, let's get back on topic....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:09 PM - 14 January, 2014
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after all this talk about ZXA5'S will you be buying a pair? hummmmmmm? when you post a pic of one next to a realistic mixer i'll never ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER talk about any of your old ass gear again realistic qsc mx amps witch are OLD as hell


It's tax season, so we'll see...

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i'll keep my mouf shut!!!!!!!!!!! then we work on getting you some uplights & you'll be golden son


I dunno man, you might wanna pipe down NOW, since we all now know you're not in this for the ART....which explains why you don't know how to properly use your EV's.... :-D.
Joee 9:19 PM - 14 January, 2014
we not talking about sales men…..lol

we talking about you smashing me for not using signal processing…..when the only reason i don't do it is i want to carry the least amount of gear possible






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after all this talk about ZXA5'S will you be buying a pair? hummmmmmm? when you post a pic of one next to a realistic mixer i'll never ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER talk about any of your old ass gear again realistic qsc mx amps witch are OLD as hell


It's tax season, so we'll see...

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i'll keep my mouf shut!!!!!!!!!!! then we work on getting you some uplights & you'll be golden son


I dunno man, you might wanna pipe down NOW, since we all now know you're not in this for the ART....which explains why you don't know how to properly use your EV's.... :-D.

….lol….we will see! or will we?

come one johnny i got in to dj'ing cause i loved the art form & decided to make a Career out of it……so yes now the art form comes second the checks come first


i know how to use my ZXA5 i just choice to use it the simplest way possible


TIME IS MONEY BABY!!!!!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:30 PM - 14 January, 2014
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we talking about you smashing me for not using signal processing…..when the only reason i don't do it is i want to carry the least amount of gear possible


Look, I didn't mean for you to catch feelings over that, BBBBBUUUUTTT, for you to be the Official Spokesman for the ZXA5's, you AT A MINIMUM, should be using those speakers to their fullest....

All DJ's that respect the ART also respect their equipment.

On top of that, it would help you out in REAL REAL life...

For example, if you had proper processing, you'd be more educated in what it takes to make the music sound correct, AND what would be needed to protect it.

From what you've posted, you've been occasionally associating with cats that for one reason or another mess up your events...

Take for example your "boy" who was playing "Move B*tch" during the COCKTAIL hour at a Wedding Reception you were doing....

Now, we all make mistakes, and maybe you didn't see that coming, so fast forward to you getting your speaker blown...

Is this the SAME DUDE who you had with you at the wedding, now BLOWING your speaker?

OR is this a NEW "boy" of yours, who again, ruined something that you are "Doing For The Money'? :-)

I say all this to say, if you INVEST in your craft, you'll not have these problems, nor be concerned about OTHER DJ's investments... :-D
DJ GaFFle 9:30 PM - 14 January, 2014
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are those them big 15's wood box mackies ? them things use to knock still no comparison for the zxa5 tho

Man, I was surprised by the Mackie HD1531. I took my ZXA5 to a local Atlanta GC and AB'd them. The HD1531 spanked the EV in every way except size, weight and finish. The 1531 was noticeably louder, went lower and sounded better doing it. They sounded great even going into limiting, I just didn't trust Mackie's reliability though and decided to pass...

(nm)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:31 PM - 14 January, 2014
And by "Invest" I mean "Educate" yourself in the artform...

It's not about the Money all the time...

Justsayin....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:32 PM - 14 January, 2014
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The HD1531 spanked the EV in every way except size, weight and finish.


Price?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:32 PM - 14 January, 2014
Not that I would buy ANYTHING by Mackie, but just for comparison sakes...
Joee 9:51 PM - 14 January, 2014
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we talking about you smashing me for not using signal processing…..when the only reason i don't do it is i want to carry the least amount of gear possible


Look, I didn't mean for you to catch feelings over that, BBBBBUUUUTTT, for you to be the Official Spokesman for the ZXA5's, you AT A MINIMUM, should be using those speakers to their fullest....

All DJ's that respect the ART also respect their equipment.

On top of that, it would help you out in REAL REAL life...

For example, if you had proper processing, you'd be more educated in what it takes to make the music sound correct, AND what would be needed to protect it.

From what you've posted, you've been occasionally associating with cats that for one reason or another mess up your events...

Take for example your "boy" who was playing "Move B*tch" during the COCKTAIL hour at a Wedding Reception you were doing....

Now, we all make mistakes, and maybe you didn't see that coming, so fast forward to you getting your speaker blown...

Is this the SAME DUDE who you had with you at the wedding, now BLOWING your speaker?

OR is this a NEW "boy" of yours, who again, ruined something that you are "Doing For The Money'? :-)

I say all this to say, if you INVEST in your craft, you'll not have these problems, nor be concerned about OTHER DJ's investments... :-D

come on johnny we not catching feeling we grown folk here baby


& HELLLL no i now do wedding & ALL my events alone i don't need no one messing up my money…..the blown zxa5 was another friend that asked for some speaker help…..it was a dumb move on my part i know…….but he payed me so no harm there, he just taught me not to let any any ANY ANY ANY one play on my zxa5………..lol WORD


and please stop telling me about the art form i'm from philly baby i came up in the dj hay day( jazzy jeff cash money & countless others) i did all that already i don't have time for art! i have a mortgage a car note kids grand kids and manage it all with no day job


can't you tell from how much i'm on the forum…..lol



i love this thing we do (dj'ing) form me there is no other feeling in the world that matches that of when i'm dj'ing and i turn down the music and hear everyone in the place singing the words of the song i'm playing……i truly LOVE my job it's not work for me


but the check comes first and for most before anything for me, cause without that i don't eat period………..


now GO buy some zxa5's so you can tell me how to use them to there full potential
Joee 9:53 PM - 14 January, 2014
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are those them big 15's wood box mackies ? them things use to knock still no comparison for the zxa5 tho

Man, I was surprised by the Mackie HD1531. I took my ZXA5 to a local Atlanta GC and AB'd them. The HD1531 spanked the EV in every way except size, weight and finish. The 1531 was noticeably louder, went lower and sounded better doing it. They sounded great even going into limiting, I just didn't trust Mackie's reliability though and decided to pass...

(nm)

are you talking about the one that EAW designed? i never heard that one i'm thinking of a older one
DJ GaFFle 10:13 PM - 14 January, 2014
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are those them big 15's wood box mackies ? them things use to knock still no comparison for the zxa5 tho

Man, I was surprised by the Mackie HD1531. I took my ZXA5 to a local Atlanta GC and AB'd them. The HD1531 spanked the EV in every way except size, weight and finish. The 1531 was noticeably louder, went lower and sounded better doing it. They sounded great even going into limiting, I just didn't trust Mackie's reliability though and decided to pass...

(nm)

are you talking about the one that EAW designed? i never heard that one i'm thinking of a older one

Yes, that's the one.

@ JohnnyM... $1250 new and as low as $549 (used) from GC's. You know you can haggle those guys or wait for a 20% sale.

Here's a link to a prosound guy that's been running them for a couple years. He mentions the kinks have been worked out by Mackie. It's an 80 lb. box but it's pole mountable and it's a 3-way design so you get lows, mid and high drivers.

soundforums.net
DJ GaFFle 10:17 PM - 14 January, 2014
Dude actually does a direct A/B'd of the ZXA5 to the HD1531. That's a 2-way vs a 3-way but the EV loses the battle. That's saying a lot!
Joee 10:18 PM - 14 January, 2014
^ thats a 3 way i would expect it to sound better than the zxa5 but 80lbs damn no thank you , is that a growler sub under the mackie?
the_black_one 10:49 PM - 14 January, 2014
Comparing apples vs oranges there...

Nm nh
Taipanic 11:21 PM - 14 January, 2014
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Dude actually does a direct A/B'd of the ZXA5 to the HD1531. That's a 2-way vs a 3-way but the EV loses the battle. That's saying a lot!


Had a pair of the older SR1530s, really good sound.

Three way speakers will always sound better for recorded music, two way is sufficient for live music. Really surprised there are not more three way quality speakers out there but I would imagine the DJ market is a small percentage of sales. Using a sub pretty much turns your two way speakers into a three way setup but is not quite as tweakable as a true three way system and a good parametric equalizer.
Joee 11:30 PM - 14 January, 2014
back on topic…..a few years ago i was looking for the right sub to pair with my zxa5, i thought about this one here but again it was heavier than i wanted
www.kv2audio.com

doe's anyone have real world experience with it? it looks like a mini beast of a sub that might hold its own with the zxa5
pdidy 11:41 PM - 14 January, 2014
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^ thats a 3 way i would expect it to sound better than the zxa5 but 80lbs damn no thank you , is that a growler sub under the mackie?

No, that an Orbit Shifter sub made by the same company(JTR) that makes growler subs.
Btw, The orbit shifter is in close competition (debatable) with the Danley th118 owned by Gaffle. I owned a pair of growlers just before I switched to Yorkville 801p. i26.photobucket.com
Joee 11:45 PM - 14 January, 2014
^I knew it was in that family of super subs just forgot the name some serious bass there OS the kind that make you sick literally
pdidy 12:01 AM - 15 January, 2014
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back on topic…..a few years ago i was looking for the right sub to pair with my zxa5, i thought about this one here but again it was heavier than i wanted
www.kv2audio.com

doe's anyone have real world experience with it? it looks like a mini beast of a sub that might hold its own with the zxa5

I always wanted some Kv2 2.2 subs because the were so small but powerful, but the price was just fuckin ridiculous so I went with the yorkville801's. They were about $2000 ea back in 2008 when they were a BIG deal along with the kv2 ex12 top because of the small size and quality, think the Kv2 2.2 a lil over $3000 last I checked GTFOH.
Joee 12:10 AM - 15 January, 2014
^ but like with everything else in this world you get what you pay for…..i've heard these things knock more than 18inch jbl's now that's saying a lot


i've always wanted to try them also i just never want to carry a 100lbs sub, i gig alone all the time every time


i think i found my system as ever since i bought the rcf setup it has been the only thing i have been using, funny how it worked out i got it to be a smaller setup but it's been more of my main rig these days…… i really like the weight of the tops 38lbs the are a little heavy at 70lbs but no big deal


i have become an rcf convert!
Joee 12:11 AM - 15 January, 2014
^ subs is what i was referring to being a little heavy
Joee 12:17 AM - 15 January, 2014
and not that i need to buy anything else but i'm really liking the looks of these

56lbs sub--> www.fbt.it

36 or 38?lbs top ( ugly as hell ) ---> www.fbt.it


i like the italian made rcf stuff so much i might like these also & at those lbs's i can carry this around well into my old age…..lol

PS

thanks gaffle i never knew about these speakers until you posted the speaker shoot out, i just may be buying them …..maybe
Rebelguy 1:07 AM - 15 January, 2014
I own and run the KV2 ex-12/2.2 system almost every weekend. It's an awesome combo but the weight definitely sucks sometimes. I have thought about replacing the whole system but there is nothing that comes close as far as sound quality in the sub $2k a cabinet price range. Fulcrum audio is nice but you are talking a way bigger price increase and close to the same weight.
Al Poulin 1:59 AM - 15 January, 2014
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back on topic…..a few years ago i was looking for the right sub to pair with my zxa5, i thought about this one here but again it was heavier than i wanted
www.kv2audio.com

doe's anyone have real world experience with it? it looks like a mini beast of a sub that might hold its own with the zxa5

I always wanted some Kv2 2.2 subs because the were so small but powerful, but the price was just fuckin ridiculous so I went with the yorkville801's. They were about $2000 ea back in 2008 when they were a BIG deal along with the kv2 ex12 top because of the small size and quality, think the Kv2 2.2 a lil over $3000 last I checked GTFOH.


I absolutely love my (KV2) KX Audio KX12s. I realized how good they were after my DSR112 review. Although they are discontinued, they did retail for a little over 3K a pair - and this was KV2's affordable line. I found a demo pair (that was basically new) on a Montreal sound provider's EBay store for 800$ + shipping. (came up to less than 1K all in). I regret not buying both available pairs, but at the time I had just purchased my DXR8s and the wife was already not too happy. :-) The KV2's build quality and HF driver are phenomenal. A 50 watt RMS amp power the 2.5" VC / 1.4" exit horn on mine.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:40 AM - 15 January, 2014
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come on johnny we not catching feeling we grown folk here baby


Hell no! lmao, but now reevaluating what you may "suggest" as being "Great" equipment....

Don't worry, as long as Pdidy, Gaffle, Al and the rest sign off on you, I'll know it's legit. :-)

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i did all that already i don't have time for art!


I'll remember that when you start preachin' about how it's all about the "Customer" ...lmao.

NOW, we can get back on topic....

You still aitte, tho...

But PLEASE buy a damn EQ, limiter, VU meter....SOMETHING and RTFM, so you'll use them to their fullest potential.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:54 AM - 15 January, 2014
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@ JohnnyM... $1250 new and as low as $549 (used) from GC's. You know you can haggle those guys or wait for a 20% sale.

Here's a link to a prosound guy that's been running them for a couple years. He mentions the kinks have been worked out by Mackie. It's an 80 lb. box but it's pole mountable and it's a 3-way design so you get lows, mid and high drivers.

soundforums.net


Man, thanks!

And that was a LOT of great info...

First off, I didn't realize the EV's were just 2 way.

That dude sounds like me, thinking that Mackie damn sure isn't known for having 'Pro" speakers, but that test seemed pretty thorough.

These 2 points stand out -

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For the size/weight, the EV box is great. But, it's going to require a lot of extra EQ to really shine.
- Joee, pay ATTENTION....

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The Mackie box is bigger, and heavier, but it sounds a lot better and holds together much better at high SPL.
- But he said it would take 2 people to put it on a pole, and that's what I'm trying to avoid....

GREAT INFO.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:56 AM - 15 January, 2014
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^ thats a 3 way i would expect it to sound better than the zxa5 but 80lbs damn no thank you , is that a growler sub under the mackie?


No, that an Orbit Shifter sub made by the same company(JTR) that makes growler subs.

Btw, The orbit shifter is in close competition (debatable) with the Danley th118 owned by Gaffle. I owned a pair of growlers just before I switched to Yorkville 801p. i26.photobucket.com


So, is there a POWERED SUB that's Danley th118 comparable?
DjCity 2:59 AM - 15 January, 2014
Johnny....

I'm curious.
Are you planning on ever really buying new speakers?

I'm not trying to be funny here.
I'm genuinely curious.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:01 AM - 15 January, 2014
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Johnny....

I'm curious.

Are you planning on ever really buying new speakers?

I'm not trying to be funny here.

I'm genuinely curious.


Here YOU go...

Didn't I say it's TAX season?

I plan on doing some mad "Cheesy" events in 2014, and want to be "In & Out"...

So YES, I "Plan" on buying new speakers, but I always plan to buy something that will last me for the foreseeable future.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:07 AM - 15 January, 2014
Up until now, I roll in with (2) 120 lb speakers, and 1 amp, knock it out of the park, and keep it moving.

The truth is that Serato has made it almost a CRIME to NOT partake in some of the things that they want DJ's for these days....

If I needed to drag vinyl outdoors, that would not even be a consideration.

NOW, I can get paid good money to do something for say, 2 hours, and not spend half the night setting up and breaking down not saying it takes long now, but still.

For example, peeps around the corner may want to throw a Pool Party...

Am I dragging out V35's? Hell no, or else I'd have to get paid NICELY...

Get some small powered speakers, even done with minimal effort.
DJ GaFFle 3:13 AM - 15 January, 2014
^^^ I can see you going for a pair of DXR115's. Won't break the bank, 7-year warranty, they sound good, got a little bit of bass with the 15" driver and they're pole mountable.

The only reason I'm not mentioning ZXA5's is because you said 'cheesy' events. One doesn't usually consider their ZXA5's for low-end events.

There's lots of other options out there and I'm sure you'll make a recommendation thread when the dollar$ are in hand. I'm itching for some new equipment too when the tax return comes in.

(nm)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:22 AM - 15 January, 2014
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The only reason I'm not mentioning ZXA5's is because you said 'cheesy' events. One doesn't usually consider their ZXA5's for low-end events.


Don't get it twisted...

1. I NEED some type of powered speaker. That's a fact.

2. Since I don't see myself reconing the V35's, I also wanted to factor whether or not the ZXA5's could ALSO take the place of them.

I have to do some fact checking on the DXR115's, as all I hear about cats talking about on here are the EV's.

The question is - would the DXR115's ALSO be considered the LAST 15" speaker you'll ever need to buy?

I've heard that about the EV's.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:26 AM - 15 January, 2014
OMG. DXR115's are Yahmaha's?

Hmmmm.....

Maybe things have changed, but my boy used to swear by Yahmaha's 24/7.

But he would always borrow my Vegas, because "The Yahmaha's were in the shop"...

I don't know if I could do that...

That being said, I understand Yorkville has come a long way also.

Again, back in the day, I just never liked the "Plain" look of the Yorkville, BUT my competitors ALWAYS used them....

They didn't sound better than my rig, but they were a HELL of a lot easier to move around, and didn't sound bad....

but not as good...
Al Poulin 3:46 AM - 15 January, 2014
I love my DXR15s. Perfect stand alone cab for smaller weddings / parties. They look great, have a very flexible mixer section, NEXO processing, are roughly 50 lbs + actually conpact for 15s and they come with a 7 year warranty and are available at an excellent price considering all you get. Only weakness IS the actual cabinet which is very vulnerable to scratching / nicks, so covers are HIGHLY recommended.

Al
pdidy 3:47 AM - 15 January, 2014
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^ thats a 3 way i would expect it to sound better than the zxa5 but 80lbs damn no thank you , is that a growler sub under the mackie?


No, that an Orbit Shifter sub made by the same company(JTR) that makes growler subs.

Btw, The orbit shifter is in close competition (debatable) with the Danley th118 owned by Gaffle. I owned a pair of growlers just before I switched to Yorkville 801p. i26.photobucket.com


So, is there a POWERED SUB that's Danley th118 comparable?

the Danley th118 an jtr orbit shifter come in powered version.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:49 AM - 15 January, 2014
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I love my DXR15s. Perfect stand alone cab for smaller weddings / parties. They look great, have a very flexible mixer section, NEXO processing, are roughly 50 lbs + actually conpact for 15s and they come with a 7 year warranty and are available at an excellent price considering all you get. Only weakness IS the actual cabinet which is very vulnerable to scratching / nicks, so covers are HIGHLY recommended.

Al


Now that you mention it, my boys Yahmaha's WERE mad nicked up and whatnot...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:51 AM - 15 January, 2014
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^ thats a 3 way i would expect it to sound better than the zxa5 but 80lbs damn no thank you , is that a growler sub under the mackie?


No, that an Orbit Shifter sub made by the same company(JTR) that makes growler subs.

Btw, The orbit shifter is in close competition (debatable) with the Danley th118 owned by Gaffle. I owned a pair of growlers just before I switched to Yorkville 801p. i26.photobucket.com


So, is there a POWERED SUB that's Danley th118 comparable?


the Danley th118 an jtr orbit shifter come in powered version.


Roger that...

I assumed when someone posted up wishing he had 2 Danley's and a Crown amp, that it only came as passive...

But wait, the PASSIVE was 4G's? How much is the damn powered version?
Al Poulin 3:51 AM - 15 January, 2014
RCF HD12As and Yorkville's new Parasource PS12Ps would also be excellent compact choices for full range typical wedding DJ applications. Their low frequency response extends down to 45hz, so as long as you're not looking for ultra hi level output, they should be fine for smaller applications.
Al Poulin 3:54 AM - 15 January, 2014
Al

Now that you mention it, my boys Yahmaha's WERE mad nicked up and whatnot...

The DSR line has a much more durable line-x finish if yo uare looking for a better "long term" investment that will look good longer. DSR115s provide incredible full range sound at very high levels BUT are big and fairly heavy at 60lbs. That said, my KX12s are 60lbs and I feel they are quite manageable. Funy thing is the transducers are all neo inside. It's the baltic birch and tough coating that add the weight. But they are solid compared to much of the plastic stuff coming out these days.

Al
pdidy 4:18 AM - 15 January, 2014
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^ thats a 3 way i would expect it to sound better than the zxa5 but 80lbs damn no thank you , is that a growler sub under the mackie?


No, that an Orbit Shifter sub made by the same company(JTR) that makes growler subs.

Btw, The orbit shifter is in close competition (debatable) with the Danley th118 owned by Gaffle. I owned a pair of growlers just before I switched to Yorkville 801p. i26.photobucket.com


So, is there a POWERED SUB that's Danley th118 comparable?


the Danley th118 an jtr orbit shifter come in powered version.


Roger that...

I assumed when someone posted up wishing he had 2 Danley's and a Crown amp, that it only came as passive...

But wait, the PASSIVE was 4G's? How much is the damn powered version?

just pop one of theses on the back of them an save some money. www.speakerpower.net

I believe the SP1-4000 can power both (2 subs) at the same dam time for about $1300.
Need Gaffle to verify.
Joee 12:18 PM - 15 January, 2014
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Johnny....

I'm curious.

Are you planning on ever really buying new speakers?

I'm not trying to be funny here.

I'm genuinely curious.


Here YOU go...

Didn't I say it's TAX season?

I plan on doing some mad "Cheesy" events in 2014, and want to be "In & Out"...

So YES, I "Plan" on buying new speakers, but I always plan to buy something that will last me for the foreseeable future.


+1 on the yamaha dxr15 for what you will be doing if i couldn't afford a pair of zxa5's the dxr15 just might be my next choice they sound good

the rcf hd12-a is also a great sounding box

that rcf & yamaha are in the same price range $7 to $8 each
Joee 12:44 PM - 15 January, 2014
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For the size/weight, the EV box is great. But, it's going to require a lot of extra EQ to really shine.
- Joee, pay ATTENTION....


no need to pay attention to his review about eq…..remember i acutely own them


were them needing to be eq'ed for me comes into play when your playing them super loud witch i never do you will almost never need to use a zxa5 to it maximum capability (SPL)


at normal volume they sound fine……..
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:58 PM - 15 January, 2014
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no need to pay attention to his review about eq


REALLY?

No dude, you NEED to look at how he broke it DOWN....

Amazing info.

soundforums.net

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at normal volume they sound fine……..


A speaker should sound "Fine" at ALL volumes...

Ok, I get it.

You don't care to make your sound as good as it CAN possibly get...

That's a lot of money spent tho...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:01 PM - 15 January, 2014
Ok, I don't get this -

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were them needing to be eq'ed for me comes into play when your playing them super loud witch i never do you will almost never need to use a zxa5 to it maximum capability (SPL)


So, you bought the LOUDEST 15" speaker on the market....

But don't turn it up loud....

And if you did, you just admitted you'd need an EQ...

But you don't have one...

Gotcha.
Joee 1:08 PM - 15 January, 2014
^ you keep on with the sound the sound & technical like i don't know what i'm doing or care about my sound

when the simple fact is i do what i do to make my mobiles easy again my time is money at a gig fast in fast out and a extra rack will be more thing to carry & hook up witch takes more time

i've only got compliments on my sound rig from all my clients, some even felt that i had to much sound ( as if there is such a thing )


"Ok, I get it.

You don't care to make your sound as good as it CAN possibly get...

That's a lot of money spent tho…"

i'd venture to say that you can bring your cv's along with all the signal processing you want i'll bring nothing but zxa5's and i'll still sound better



"So, you bought the LOUDEST 15" speaker on the market....

But don't turn it up loud…."

i used to use them loud when i was doing a lot of school proms etc. but these days i just don't need that loud of a box anymore……
pdidy 1:15 PM - 15 January, 2014
Do y'all realize its been 3 days of the same pissing contest ?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:21 PM - 15 January, 2014
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i'd venture to say that you can bring your cv's along with all the signal processing you want i'll bring nothing but zxa5's and i'll still sound better


Again, comparing technologies that are DECADES apart? Not to mention the price difference?

And from what I gather, my BASS (18" woofers and 120 lb boxes) would still outshine pole mounted EV's....so yeah.

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i used to use them loud when i was doing a lot of school proms etc. but these days i just don't need that loud of a box anymore……


But you said that you constantly are doing Sweet 16's, Graduations, Weddings, etc, and that you're constantly making money from it....

My take on it is this....

I know I don't know EVERYTHING, but I know enough to know an EXPERT ANALYSIS when I see it...

Would you consider yourself an "Expert" on the EV's?

I'd say you were the rich kid with loud speakers, who is just telling everyone within internet range to "Buy Them"...

But I guess that's what "Salesmen" do... :-).
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:22 PM - 15 January, 2014
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Do y'all realize its been 3 days of the same pissing contest ?


C'mon man! Dude is DYING for me to get "New Sh*t" when he can't even properly use what he HAS....lmao....

He still cool tho..
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:22 PM - 15 January, 2014
No EQ...

What
Da
Fugg...
DJ GaFFle 1:25 PM - 15 January, 2014
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...I believe the SP1-4000 can power both (2 subs) at the same dam time for about $1300.
Need Gaffle to verify.

You're right. Each sub will only see 2000W though (the TH-118's rms is 1700W so not truly ideal). If you choose the SP1-6000 and are working with 200 - 240V circuits, you'll have the best suited power for the TH-118 subs seeing 3200W each. That's a darn good solution if you don't want to use a separate amp. That SP1-4000 alone on a single TH-118 is very ideal but that's were things can get pricey.

FYI... at last I remember, the retail on the TH-118 subs was $3300 each (not $4k). Some dealers may cut you a great deal off that though. They're not for everyone but I'm not debating or thinking about another sub, EVER. Ya'll may hear me on these forums in 2024 talking about my TH-118's still going strong. :-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:33 PM - 15 January, 2014
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They're not for everyone but I'm not debating or thinking about another sub, EVER. Ya'll may hear me on these forums in 2024 talking about my TH-118's still going strong. :-)


Now THAT is my way of thinking. Invest in something that you KNOW is going to last you into the forseeable future....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:33 PM - 15 January, 2014
DJ GaFFle, yours are passive?
Joee 1:48 PM - 15 January, 2014
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But you said that you constantly are doing Sweet 16's, Graduations, Weddings, etc, and that you're constantly making money from it....




sweet 16's and proms are two deferent animals …..you will need a hell of a lot more sound to cover a hole school vs. birthday girl and here friends…..



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I'd say you were the rich kid with loud speakers, who is just telling everyone within internet range to "Buy Them"...





not that was just plane dumb right there…..if i was rich i wouldn't spend so much time on this forum…..i work hard for what i have no one gave it to me



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Do y'all realize its been 3 days of the same pissing contest ?


C'mon man! Dude is DYING for me to get "New Sh*t" when he can't even properly use what he HAS....lmao....

He still cool tho..

the has to be they MOST epic debate in the forum history?……lol

i don't know how many time i need to say if maybe i should sent you smoke signals or something or S P EE AK R EEE ALL SLO WWW LYYY


i do what i do to make life easier for me in an out……you are telling me that i don't know how to use my speakers, the fact that i don't use a eq doesn't mean i don't know my gear

i don't know how much better to use them than get in and out as fast as possible with minimal gear and get paid well doing so……bottom line


i can't use my gear any better than that now can i?
Joee 1:57 PM - 15 January, 2014
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Do y'all realize its been 3 days of the same pissing contest ?

dude is getting on my nerves telling me i don't know how to properly use my speaker……lol

all because i don't want to carry around an extra amp rack with processing……why don't you someone that actually owns zax5 tell this man that they do sound really good ran strait from a rane mixer


i don't want to here his put sh!t in & get sh!t out……..when you (we) spend $1,300 on a speaker best believe it sounds good no matter how you use it


man johnny i hope you buy some, i'm gonna find out were in jersey you gig so i can come poke a hole in one the same week you buy them……..lol
DJ GaFFle 1:58 PM - 15 January, 2014
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DJ GaFFle, yours are passive?

Yep, I prefer passives for large gigs and venues. If I have to have my subs out of immediate view of my DJ booth, I know when I'm peaking or clipping the amp power. You can't see that on an out-of-view powered speaker unless you set proper gain controls throughout your system.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:01 PM - 15 January, 2014
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sweet 16's and proms are two deferent animals …..you will need a hell of a lot more sound to cover a hole school vs. birthday girl and here friends…..


www.djjohnnym.com

Oh really?

You said this right here ->
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me i do mad wedding/sweet sixteens/proms…..etc every year all year long so i NEED to have all the gear i own……..who you calling a gear whore? i don't own 20 mixers…….lol


So when you do all of that, where you need a hell of a lot more sound to cover everything, do you use an Equalizer?

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i work hard for what i have no one gave it to me


Ok, I'll give you that...

Instead, you just don't know how to invest your money WISELY..... :-)

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the This has to be they MOST epic debate in the forum history?……lol


No, not really, I'm actually taking it easy on you.... :-)

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the fact that i don't use a eq doesn't mean i don't know my gear


Ummm...yes it does...

So, you're saying that all you do is go to an event, plug and play...

THAT'S IT!

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i don't know how much better to use them than get in and out as fast as possible with minimal gear and get paid well doing so……bottom line


So when cats say that they can do an event WITHOUT LIGHTS AND get paid well while doing so, your response was what again? :-)

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i can't use my gear any better than that now can i?


That's obviously up for debate, now isn't it?

I doubt if ANY of the forum PA Guru's here would ever advise you to do an event without an EQ..
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:02 PM - 15 January, 2014
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DJ GaFFle, yours are passive?


Yep, I prefer passives for large gigs and venues. If I have to have my subs out of immediate view of my DJ booth, I know when I'm peaking or clipping the amp power. You can't see that on an out-of-view powered speaker unless you set proper gain controls throughout your system.


THIIIIIISSSS is a man that knows his *ish....

Or at least we think alike....

Wow, another Pdidy...
Joee 2:24 PM - 15 January, 2014
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sweet 16's and proms are two deferent animals …..you will need a hell of a lot more sound to cover a hole school vs. birthday girl and here friends…..


www.djjohnnym.com

Oh really?

You said this right here ->
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me i do mad wedding/sweet sixteens/proms…..etc every year all year long so i NEED to have all the gear i own……..who you calling a gear whore? i don't own 20 mixers…….lol "

i didn't say i don't do proms any more i said i don't do as much as i used to (they don't pay as well as other events) so no i did not fuc up……lol…..don't tell me that we need the same level of sound for a sweet 16 & a school prom……prom has a lot more kids than a sweet 16


"So, you're saying that all you do is go to an event, plug and play...

THAT'S IT!"

thats it"

yes as simple as possible, i want to work smarter not harder the least amount of work i do or gear i carry …..is the way for me to go


"So when cats say that they can do an event WITHOUT LIGHTS AND get paid well while doing so, your response was what again? :-)"

and why are we talking about light? the lights are a tool for me to make more money cause there not included there an up charge


"That's obviously up for debate, now isn't it?

I doubt if ANY of the forum PA Guru's here would ever advise you to do an event without an EQ.."

no one is debating whether it should be used! did you ever hear me say i shouldn't or you shouldn't be using a eq?……the debate is you telling me i don't know anything about sound cause i chose not to use one
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:28 PM - 15 January, 2014
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dude is getting on my nerves telling me i don't know how to properly use my speaker……lol]


C'mon man, don't get all misty on me...

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all because i don't want to carry around an extra amp rack with processing


Who said you needed an AMP rack? Hell even the DriveRack would do you better than you're going now...Ask The_Black_One!

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……why don't you (or) someone that actually owns zax5 tell this man that they do sound really good ran strait from a rane mixer


But you can bet a dollar to a donut, that they have SOME type of sound processing in there.... :-)

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i don't want to here his put sh!t in & get sh!t out……..when you (we) spend $1,300 on a speaker best believe it sounds good no matter how you use it


So, that's like buying a TOP of the line car, and not following the owners manual of how to maintain it...

Gotcha...

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man johnny i hope you buy some, i'm gonna find out were in jersey you gig so i can come poke a hole in one the same week you buy them……..lol


That's Ok, because I'm sure somewhere along the line, one of your "Boys" will blow your *ish again....lmao.
Joee 2:31 PM - 15 January, 2014
^ that was strait up wrong…………LMAO you mitch ………..lol

no one buy me will ever be playing on my zxa5's ever again EVER! lesion learned there, ay sh!t happens pididy blu one also when he let someone else play on it…..i think a read that before
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:34 PM - 15 January, 2014
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i didn't say i don't do proms any more i said i don't do as much as i used to (they don't pay as well as other events) so no i did not fuc up……lol…..don't tell me that we need the same level of sound for a sweet 16 & a school prom……prom has a lot more kids than a sweet 16


But you say RIGHT HERE ->
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me i do mad wedding/sweet sixteens/proms…..etc every year all year long


And you said that > -
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Joee 10:15 AM - 16 December, 2013
Exactly a MONTH ago, tomorrow? So you got downsized in less than a month?

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thats it", yes as simple as possible, i want to work smarter not harder the least amount of work i do or gear i carry …..is the way for me to go


"Smarter" with NO EQ, ever, for EVERY event you do?

Things that make you go "Hmmmmm....."

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and why are we talking about light? the lights are a tool for me to make more money cause there not included there an up charge


I was referencing the whole "carry the minimum amount of gear necessary while getting paid the most"? Just sayin....

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no one is debating whether it should be used! did you ever hear me say i shouldn't or you shouldn't be using a eq?


OH! OK, so why aren't you using one again if you KNOW it's supposed to be used?


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……the debate is you telling me i don't know anything about sound cause i chose not to use one


No, the debate seems to be MUCH more than that...lmao...
Joee 2:38 PM - 15 January, 2014
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Who said you needed an AMP rack? Hell even the DriveRack would do you better than you're going now...Ask The_Black_One!

.

you know what you have a point here if i can fit a driveRack in my ddj sx case i just might do that..as i won't be carrying anything else i would just pull it out and hook it up


maybe!

BUT YOUR STILL A MITCH……..LMAO
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:38 PM - 15 January, 2014
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^ that was strait up wrong…………LMAO you mitch ………..lol


What the hell is a Mitch?

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no one buy by me will ever be playing on my zxa5's ever again EVER! lesion learned there, ay sh!t happens


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pididy blu one also when he let someone else play on it…..i think a read that before


Really? Is that true Pdidy? Did you have someone cranking "Move B*tch" at a wedding cocktail hour and they blew one of your EV's also?

I think I'm in the Twilight Zone now...

Cats running the Bentley of 15" inch speakers with no rims....wtf?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:39 PM - 15 January, 2014
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you know what you have a point here if i can fit a driveRack in my ddj sx case i just might do that..as i won't be carrying anything else i would just pull it out and hook it up

maybe!

BUT YOUR STILL A MITCH……..LMAO


Now now, we've been civil up until you calling me a Mitch!
Joee 2:39 PM - 15 January, 2014
driveRack is small


maybe just maybe….
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:40 PM - 15 January, 2014
smh...
Joee 2:40 PM - 15 January, 2014
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you know what you have a point here if i can fit a driveRack in my ddj sx case i just might do that..as i won't be carrying anything else i would just pull it out and hook it up

maybe!

BUT YOUR STILL A MITCH……..LMAO


Now now, we've been civil up until you calling me a Mitch!

you throw a jab at me saying this
" That's Ok, because I'm sure somewhere along the line, one of your "Boys" will blow your *ish again....lmao."


lol
Joee 2:49 PM - 15 January, 2014
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Now now, we've been civil up until you calling me a Mitch!



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man johnny i hope you buy some, i'm gonna find out were in jersey you gig so i can come poke a hole in one the same week you buy them……..lol


That's Ok, because I'm sure somewhere along the line, one of your "Boys" will blow your *ish again....lmao.

this was just plain wrong…….i was only kidding….that hurt

definition of mitch
Watchwww.youtube.com
Joee 2:51 PM - 15 January, 2014
you kew what it meant tho you know you watch real house husbands of hollywood
Joee 2:51 PM - 15 January, 2014
don't front
Joee 3:03 PM - 15 January, 2014
i'm trow in the towel, 3 days is enough……i'll say it again and even leave out the mitch

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Who said you needed an AMP rack? Hell even the DriveRack would do you better than you're going now...Ask The_Black_One!

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you know what you have a point here if i can fit a driveRack in my ddj sx case i just might do that..as i won't be carrying anything else i would just pull it out and hook it up


maybe!

BUT YOUR STILL A edited for content……..LMAO



but in all seriousness if the DR will fit in my ddj sx case it's a smart move so i will be investigating dimensions …….

than you can get of my back cause the DR is a compressor limiter eq and crossover all in one, i never did look at it this way i was just concerned about adding more things to carry

when i carry lights i get paid for that ,would not be getting payed to carry another rack with processing …..but if it fits in the ssx case it's all good


ay another piece of gear for me to buy, after all dbx did come out with a new DR
www.dbxpro.com

you have helped me see the light my bother……see now we cool again the past three days have not been a waist
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:15 PM - 15 January, 2014
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you kew what it meant tho you know you watch real house husbands of hollywood


Never...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:17 PM - 15 January, 2014
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than then you can get of my back cause the DR is a compressor limiter eq and crossover all in one, i never did look at it this way i was just concerned about adding more things to carry


What? I was just trying to help YOU get, you know...

Some NEW equipment.... :-), so you can post pics!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:19 PM - 15 January, 2014
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this was just plain wrong…….i was only kidding….that hurt


I didn't mean to hurt your feelings...

I take it back...

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definition of mitch

Watchwww.youtube.com



Ok, so now I DON'T take it back...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:21 PM - 15 January, 2014
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I'm trow throwing in the towel, 3 days is enough


Man, look...I told you I was taking it easy on you....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:24 PM - 15 January, 2014
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you have helped me see the light my bother……see now we cool again the past three days have not been a waist


Man, we always been cool...

But don't let me catch you on here talking about those raggedy carpet covered, 120 lb EV's again without you using a damn EQ or DBX!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:26 PM - 15 January, 2014
:-D.

But forreal, since you HAVEN'T been using a DBX, I'm very interested in how much it "Improves" your sound, if it actually does...


















There will still be a Test next week tho...
Joee 3:34 PM - 15 January, 2014
man you better stop, i'll probably buy have got two DriveRacks and you still not one ZXZ5 stop playin



theres no doubt that it will make my system send better as i can send the frequency i want to the speaker i want & not a preset one


i'm gonna say it's also going to make my bass hit harder (NH)

we will see i'm gonna price on out now ;)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:46 PM - 15 January, 2014
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i'll probably buy have got two DriveRacks and you still not (have) one ZXZ5 stop playin


JUST 2? I thought you'd buy in bulk...LOL

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theres no doubt that it will make my system send better as i can send the frequency i want to the speaker i want & not a preset one

I'm gonna say it's also going to make my bass hit harder (NH)

we will see i'm gonna price on out now ;)


Great! So THEN you'll be using those expensive azz speakers up to their potential....

:-D
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:47 PM - 15 January, 2014
And we now return the thread to it's Regularly Schedule Programming!
Joee 4:00 PM - 15 January, 2014
so like i said the zxa5 has some great bass you WILL FEEL bass under you feet for REAL provided your on a stage ……


but again if someone is looking for a zxa5 but doesn't want to spend that much cash the yamaha dxr15 is a great choice ,i'd buy them all day err day
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:01 PM - 15 January, 2014
Thank god! lol
Joee 4:02 PM - 15 January, 2014
^ so have done any gigs with you ZXA5's yet? have you used them stand alone yet?
DJ GaFFle 4:27 PM - 15 January, 2014
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...but again if someone is looking for a zxa5 but doesn't want to spend that much cash the yamaha DSR115 is a great choice ,i'd buy them all day err day

Fixed... No Knock On The DXR But The DSR Is That Next Step Up.
Joee 4:52 PM - 15 January, 2014
i have not heard the dsr so i won't speak on it, the dxr is a great sounding 15 that puts out a nice bass for those dj's that don't carry subs


i did a side by side comparison with the dxr15 & the prx715 the dxr is the winner there at a few hundred dollars less
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:17 PM - 15 January, 2014
So forreal, there isn't a place (GC, Sm Ash), that has the EV's in stock to demo?
Joee 5:28 PM - 15 January, 2014
^ nope none that i've seen EVER! you would't buy them from any of those stores anyway cause they will charge you $1,699 --> www.fullcompass.com
Joee 5:33 PM - 15 January, 2014
stay tuned in here, you never know i might be something of quality --> serato.com

i just want to know is it made in china or in the isa
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:55 PM - 15 January, 2014
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^ so have done any gigs with you ZXA5's yet? have you used them stand alone yet?


Not yet. Still on my "paternity" leave with the baby. lol. Took off all of Dec and Jan from gigging. I have 3 events booked so far in February though (8th,9th and 22nd) so I will be using them then. Most likely all will be just tops and no subs. I will report back then on my thoughts. But keep the discussion going!! :) and no more bickering in my thread!!! lol
Joee 6:21 PM - 15 January, 2014
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Still on my "paternity" leave with the baby. lol. l

you say that like you gave birth yourself ……….lol

don't forget to report back letting us know how good they sound stand alone along with bass response…….

so johnny can think some more if he's going to become part of the ZXA5 club
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:30 PM - 15 January, 2014
LOL...that's why I had paternity in quotes! haha

absolutely I will
Taipanic 7:36 PM - 15 January, 2014
Sam Ash stores may have the ZXa5s in stock to demo.

While they do put out good bass for a plastic cabinet, I still don't use mine without subs.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:06 PM - 15 January, 2014
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so johnny can think some more if he's going to become part of the ZXA5 club


Are we giving equipment "Advice" again? :-)
Frankie Glasses 8:10 PM - 15 January, 2014
Does sam ash deal on the zxa5's?
Frankie Glasses 8:18 PM - 15 January, 2014
Can anyone recommend a California shop that will deal on the ZXA5's?
Joee 8:22 PM - 15 January, 2014
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so johnny can think some more if he's going to become part of the ZXA5 club


Are we giving equipment "Advice" again? :-)

i've never EVER gave anyone bad advice….lol about gear NEVER……..show me one post were i did

me not using processing (by choice) has nothing to do with gear recommendations i've made.


you do some of your csi investigating ….and show me thins evidence…. & me recommending gemini's don't count that was sarcasm

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Does sam ash deal on the zxa5's?


I've seen it on there web site before (not anymore) but never in store it's a special order item


i would say the best way to here them is go to guitar center when you know you want something simple say $100 piece of gear….act like you want to buy a zxa5 have them special order it give a deposit of $100 when it comes in and you hear it say you don't like it and buy the $100 piece …..ay it might work …….lol
Frankie Glasses 8:28 PM - 15 January, 2014
haha wow!
i didnt know GC carries them on special order!
Joee 8:31 PM - 15 January, 2014
GC or SA……they both carry Electro Voice why would they no be able to special order them for you? i could be wrong but i'm sure they will


they don't stock them cause there not a big seller, there to busy selling elx & zlx but they will sell you a pair of zxa5's
Joee 8:33 PM - 15 January, 2014
^ here you go passive zx5--> www.guitarcenter.com
Frankie Glasses 8:48 PM - 15 January, 2014
just figured if it was not on the website that they wouldnt carry them.
I will call and see what kinda price they can give
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:51 PM - 15 January, 2014
A sam ash very close to me has the passive ZX5. I got so excited when I saw the speaker thinking it was the ZXA5 but it was the passive version.

But even then, the people that work at sam ash are morons (most of the time). I told the salesperson I wanted to hear the passive one anyway. Figured it would give me a good benchmark of the powered version. She hooks it up to a 200 watt shitty amp and plugs an ipod directly into one of the inputs on the amp. Turned everything up and it sounded like crap. So you can't judge by that anyway.

Id listen to the people on this forum WAYYY before what the sales people say.
Joee 8:54 PM - 15 January, 2014
there not gonna give a better price that some of the other stores, i just figure maybe you can give them a listen there

they are a $1,700 speaker but can be found in the $1,300 to $1,400 range from other stores
DjCity 8:57 PM - 15 January, 2014
All I have to say is....

Take the advice given in this thread about the ZXA5's and get them from....

ProAudioStar!

Nuff Said
Joee 8:58 PM - 15 January, 2014
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A sam ash very close to me has the passive ZX5. I got so excited when I saw the speaker thinking it was the ZXA5 but it was the passive version.

But even then, the people that work at sam ash are morons (most of the time). I told the salesperson I wanted to hear the passive one anyway. Figured it would give me a good benchmark of the powered version. She hooks it up to a 200 watt shitty amp and plugs an ipod directly into one of the inputs on the amp. Turned everything up and it sounded like crap. So you can't judge by that anyway.

Id listen to the people on this forum WAYYY before what the sales people say.

haha

at 200 watts the passive zx5 is saying what what was that is there a amp hook up to me playing music?


even a qsc 3602 in stereo mode isn't enough to push that speaker properly
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:03 PM - 15 January, 2014
I know...the person helping me was dumb as bricks. Not anything against women in the industry, but you could tell she was just an "employee" and not a person that knew or cared about audio and the products in the store.

Even the guy that was helping someone else didn't realize there is a mic/line swtch on the powered speakers he was showing a customer. Customer was plugging a mic straight into the speaker and when he was testing it with the volume all the way up, it wasn't loud at all and the sales guy was saying "Well...that's why I recommend these other speakers because they are suited better for this application." Meanwhile he had to flip the mic/line switch. I was going to tell him but I wanted him to look stupid in front of the customer. The customer is the one who realized the switch wasn't on mic.

Can never trust people in those stores
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:50 PM - 15 January, 2014
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i've never EVER gave anyone bad advice….lol about gear NEVER……..show me one post were i did


I didn't say it was "Bad"...

Let's just say, you're not necessarily an "Expert" on the subject. :-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:51 PM - 15 January, 2014
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I know...the person helping me was dumb as bricks. Not anything against women in the industry, but you could tell she was just an "employee" and not a person that knew or cared about audio and the products in the store.


Ahhh, kinda like a "Salesman"....
Certified Quality Entertainment 10:00 PM - 15 January, 2014
I wouldn't even say a salesman. At least salesmen can at least spit some facts, whether or not they know what it means, they have a way to at least make you believe they they know what they are talking about.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:02 PM - 15 January, 2014
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I wouldn't even say a salesman. At least salesmen can at least spit some facts, whether or not they know what it means, they have a way to at least make you believe they they know what they are talking about.


I agree 100%.
Joee 10:05 PM - 15 January, 2014
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i've never EVER gave anyone bad advice….lol about gear NEVER……..show me one post were i did


I didn't say it was "Bad"...

Let's just say, you're not necessarily an "Expert" on the subject. :-)

lets not start this again….i do what i do for me cause it works for ME…….lol, you've never heard me tell anyone not to process there system….stop playin

as far as pro audio goes none of us are experts….but i know more than the average person ;) the fact that you don't approve of my methods don't change that


i don't approve of any dj carrying 120lbs tops from the 90's or amp from the late 80's/early 90's……but you don't here me telling you you don't know your stuff…..i know better….you should took

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Ahhh, kinda like a "Salesman"....


stop throwing jabs …..lol, i'm a sales man all day long when it come to selling my dj/entertainment services (shhh i'm so much more than a dj) thats what i have to tell the client, it's the difference between a $200 a gig dj & a $2,000 a gig entertainment company


shhhhhh don't tell anyone keep that on the low
Joee 10:21 PM - 15 January, 2014
Quote:
All I have to say is....

Take the advice given in this thread about the ZXA5's and get them from....

ProAudioStar!

Nuff Said

this has always been my advise since day one ;)


but according ti johnny i'm not the expert on the subject
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:23 PM - 15 January, 2014
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lets not start this again….


I was just RESPONDING to what you put out there....:-)

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as far as pro audio goes none of us are experts….but i know more than the average person ;)


Ummm...the average person knows to bring an Equaliz....never mind...

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i don't approve of any dj carrying 120lbs tops from the 90's or amp from the late 80's/early 90's


So, THAT'S your problem....now I get it!

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but you don't here me telling you you don't know your stuff…..i know better


You SURE about that?

Because it seems like you REALLY want me to upgrade for some strange reason...

But I keep telling you....never mind...

Quote:
stop throwing jabs …..lol, i'm a sales man all day long when it come to selling my dj/entertainment services (shhh i'm so much more than a dj) thats what i have to tell the client, it's the difference between a $200 a gig dj & a $2,000 a gig entertainment company

shhhhhh don't tell anyone keep that on the low


Hey, I just have a better understanding of your depth of knowledge, that's all I'm sayin... :-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:25 PM - 15 January, 2014
Quote:

but according ti johnny i'm not the expert on the subject


Well, you're not.

You're an accomplished SALESMAN, but from a TECHNOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE?

C'mon son...

You basically bought a loud azz speaker, but aren't using it as best you can...

And won't even LOOK at the supporting evidence of what Audio Pros, (and non-pros know), that a static EQ config does not work for every situation.

That's all I'm sayin...
Joee 10:29 PM - 15 January, 2014
ay DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 are you a lawyer? cause if your not you missed you calling kid



is it too late for you to go to law school…..Sh!t i think you will make super lawyer your first year out of law school


WORD son leave dj'ing alone become a attorney!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:30 PM - 15 January, 2014
I'll take that as a compliment...

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming....
Joee 10:35 PM - 15 January, 2014
Quote:



And won't even LOOK at the supporting evidence of what Audio Pros, (and non-pros know), that a static EQ config does not work for every situation.

That's all I'm sayin...


your argument is flawed consoler, that fact that i choose not to do something doesn't mean i don't know what it means…….you would be better to call me lazy for not carrying processing & i would have agreed with you……


but lets not get to much back in to it lets stay on topic



i rest my case counselor……
Joee 10:39 PM - 15 January, 2014
Quote:
I'll take that as a compliment...

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming....

SH!T i would hire you for real…….i KNOW you would do a ther ROOO job on the case word
Frankie Glasses 10:47 PM - 15 January, 2014
I was just looking to get a store in Southern Cali so i could pick them up quicker. Hate waiting for shipping!
@CQE you said you got yours in Cali. Care to share where?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:48 PM - 15 January, 2014
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your argument is flawed consoler, that fact that i choose not to do something doesn't mean i don't know what it means…….you would be better to call me lazy for not carrying processing & i would have agreed with you……

but lets not get to much back in to it lets stay on topic

i rest my case counselor……


Me being the legal representative that I am, would not go for the lower charge of "Laziness", as a matter of fact, I gave you a compliment...

"Salesman" is not bad, now is it?

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SH!T i would hire you for real…….i KNOW you would do a ther ROOO job on the case word


Well be advised, I charge plenty, and I bring NO LIGHTS. :-)

Now back to our regularly scheduled posting....
Joee 10:52 PM - 15 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:


Well be advised, I charge plenty, and I bring NO LIGHTS. :-)





get the fu@k outa here……..LMAO hahahahahaahahhahhaa
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:55 PM - 15 January, 2014
:-)
Joee 10:56 PM - 15 January, 2014
^ this could be you---> personalinjurylawyerinbirmingham.com
pdidy 12:05 AM - 16 January, 2014
Apparently the "Hood" is learning about the zxa5's too....lol
He's from my area and shops at the same store, I guess the word is getting out..;)
Watchwww.youtube.com
Joee 12:12 AM - 16 January, 2014
^ lol i saw that video i while
Joee 12:12 AM - 16 January, 2014
^ ago
DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:13 AM - 16 January, 2014
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I think I'm in the Twilight Zone now...

Cats running the Bentley of 15" inch speakers with no rims....wtf?


I stopped reading after this...tears started to blur my vision. LOL
pdidy 12:14 AM - 16 January, 2014
"You aint gotta hate, Step ya game up" lol
Watchwww.youtube.com
Joee 12:17 AM - 16 January, 2014
^……..LOL


and fyi after watching that video homie posted about the zxa5 it is NOT a 1200 watt box


the woofer is 500watts rms & the horn is 40watts rms ( freakin amazing ) i did not know 40watts could get so loud


1200watts would be the total output of the amps module
Joee 12:19 AM - 16 January, 2014
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"You aint gotta hate, Step ya game up" lol
Watchwww.youtube.com

as ghetto as he is at least he knows what gear to buy……he's cool in my book
pdidy 12:23 AM - 16 January, 2014
That 1 zxa5 and 1 Yorkville sounds like its handling that big auditorium...
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol.......Yea, dude is mad ghetto but he's going in the right direction.
Joee 12:25 AM - 16 January, 2014
@pididy i'm gonna go a far to say that you are the reason he got them……he is from BK shops at the same store you do & said he got them cause " you guys let me know about them "



"so step you game up"


anyone that runs zxa5's is cool wit me………he knows he KNOWS what only a select few know




"SO STEP YA GAME UP PEOPLE"
pdidy 12:31 AM - 16 January, 2014
I don't know him but it possible he's heard mine before....
The zxa5 has a 1250 Watts (RMS) amp. I believe 1000watts for the sub and 250 for the hi's.
Joee 12:32 AM - 16 January, 2014
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That 1 zxa5 and 1 Yorkville sounds like its handling that big auditorium...
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol.......Yea, dude is mad ghetto but he's going in the right direction.

LMAO……i seen this vid also…..

that one top and one sub is murderin that gym…….i've done this type of gig myself also were i only bring one zxa5….one year old birthday party in such..shhhhh don't tell johnny he will say i'm not bringing enough sound for the gig
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:33 AM - 16 January, 2014
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shhhhh don't tell johnny he will say i'm not bringing enough sound for the gig


I bet that ghetto dude had an Equaliz.....

Nevermind.... :-)
Joee 12:37 AM - 16 January, 2014
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I don't know him but it possible he's heard mine before....
The zxa5 has a 1250 Watts (RMS) amp. I believe 1000watts for the sub and 250 for the hi's.

correct but thats the amp rms numbers, the woofer is 500 watts rms
imageshack.com

& the horn is 40watts rms, let me see if i can the horn specs….


Quote:
Quote:
shhhhh don't tell johnny he will say i'm not bringing enough sound for the gig


I bet that ghetto dude had an Equaliz.....

Nevermind.... :-)

lol……...stop it
pdidy 12:41 AM - 16 January, 2014
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Quote:
I don't know him but it possible he's heard mine before....
The zxa5 has a 1250 Watts (RMS) amp. I believe 1000watts for the sub and 250 for the hi's.

correct but thats the amp rms numbers, the woofer is 500 watts rms
imageshack.com

& the horn is 40watts rms, let me see if i can the horn specs….



Yes, I know.....I was just correcting the amp wattage you listed.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:43 AM - 16 January, 2014
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Quote:
I don't know him but it possible he's heard mine before....

The zxa5 has a 1250 Watts (RMS) amp. I believe 1000watts for the sub and 250 for the hi's.


correct but thats the amp rms numbers, the woofer is 500 watts rms

imageshack.com

& the horn is 40watts rms, let me see if i can the horn specs….


How you up here correctin' Pdidy?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:44 AM - 16 January, 2014
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Yes, I know.....I was just correcting the amp wattage you listed.


Welp, spoke too soon....

lmao.
Joee 12:46 AM - 16 January, 2014
i was only 50 watts off……awww man johnny gonna cause a big time fus over me being off by 50 watts, i don't know my sh!t….lol


here the specs of the passive zx5

LF Transducer 15-inch DVX3150A
LF Power Handling 500 Watts
HF Power Handling 40 Watts
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:46 AM - 16 January, 2014
You can't make this stuff up! lol.

And yes, I've even had Judges tell me that I missed my calling after winning Parking and Red Light tickets...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:47 AM - 16 January, 2014
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i was only 50 watts off……awww man johnny gonna cause a big time fus over me being off by 50 watts, i don't know my sh!t….lol


Those extra 50 watts could have been the killer watts that fried your....

Lemmie stop.....lol.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:47 AM - 16 January, 2014
But why are you posting the specs of the "Passive" EV?
Joee 12:55 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
I don't know him but it possible he's heard mine before....

The zxa5 has a 1250 Watts (RMS) amp. I believe 1000watts for the sub and 250 for the hi's.


correct but thats the amp rms numbers, the woofer is 500 watts rms

imageshack.com

& the horn is 40watts rms, let me see if i can the horn specs….


How you up here correctin' Pdidy?

man nobody was correcting pdidy ……i was correcting that ghetto review ……


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But why are you posting the specs of the "Passive" EV?

because the specs of the passive are the same as the active……um speaker 101
Joee 1:07 AM - 16 January, 2014
so the passive ev zx5 woofer is 500watts and hers the speaker that came out of my active zxa5

imageshack.com
Joee 1:07 AM - 16 January, 2014
even the woofer looks sexy don't it????
DJ GaFFle 1:16 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
That 1 zxa5 and 1 Yorkville sounds like its handling that big auditorium...
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol.......Yea, dude is mad ghetto but he's going in the right direction.

LMAO……i seen this vid also…..

that one top and one sub is murderin that gym…….i've done this type of gig myself also were i only bring one zxa5….one year old birthday party in such..shhhhh don't tell johnny he will say i'm not bringing enough sound for the gig

Dang... if this video doesn't sell any DJ on how great this speaker combination is, I don't know WHAT will. Impressive!
Joee 1:21 AM - 16 January, 2014
^ it hasn't sold johnny……..lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:26 AM - 16 January, 2014
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because the specs of the passive are the same as the active……um speaker 101


You sure about that cowboy?

Cuz the PASSIVE SPECS SAY -

System Power Handling (Continuous/Program/Peak) 600//2400 Watts
LF Transducer 15-inch DVX3150A
LF Power Handling 500 Watts
HF Power Handling 40 Watts

Whereas the POWERED SPECS SAY -

LF Amplifier Power:1000W RMS
HF Amplifier Power: 250W RMS
LF Transducer: DVX3150, 15 in (381mm) Driver
HF Transducer: ND2-16, 1 in (25.4mm) exit Neodymium

Hmmm....JUST like Pdidy said...

What book was that again?

Speaker 1-0 what?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:28 AM - 16 January, 2014
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^ it hasn't sold johnny……..lol


That vid proves nothing except that there is a lot of space and echo.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:32 AM - 16 January, 2014
Here is the EV link if you need it...

www.electrovoice.com

Has LOTS of Spec Sheets, that you know...

Teach you "About" your speaker...

:-D.
Joee 1:35 AM - 16 January, 2014
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because the specs of the passive are the same as the active……um speaker 101


You sure about that cowboy?

Cuz the PASSIVE SPECS SAY -

System Power Handling (Continuous/Program/Peak) 600//2400 Watts
LF Transducer 15-inch DVX3150A
LF Power Handling 500 Watts
HF Power Handling 40 Watts

Whereas the POWERED SPECS SAY -

LF Amplifier Power:1000W RMS
HF Amplifier Power: 250W RMS
LF Transducer: DVX3150, 15 in (381mm) Driver
HF Transducer: ND2-16, 1 in (25.4mm) exit Neodymium

Hmmm....JUST like Pdidy said...

What book was that again?

Speaker 1-0 what?

johnny your lawyer card is revoked ,am i sure? yes i am cause i own a pair this is the woofer that came out of my zxa5 put on your glasses and pay attention ---> imageshack.com

this woofer is the same exact thing thats in the passive version speaker 101….all the numbers is the bull they use to sell speakers hype up specs



your lawyer card has been revoked !!!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:45 AM - 16 January, 2014
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all the numbers is the bull they use to sell speakers hype up specs


Dude, I ain't looking at no ADVERTISEMENT...

Here - Passive
www.djjohnnym.com

Here - Active
www.djjohnnym.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:47 AM - 16 January, 2014
Then again, if you're saying a SALESMAN is just there to "Hype" up the specs....
DjCity 1:50 AM - 16 January, 2014
My tuki covers came today.

I'm gonna take them to a Taylor to make pockets.
I need somewhere for my cables.

I got spoiled from the QSC covers and the covers for my zlx's.
DjCity 2:02 AM - 16 January, 2014
I'm gonna debut the new sound on this Saturday.

Will post back.
DJ GaFFle 2:03 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
That 1 zxa5 and 1 Yorkville sounds like its handling that big auditorium...
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol.......Yea, dude is mad ghetto but he's going in the right direction.

I watched most of his vids... dude is a trip, LoL. He's got more speakers than a little bit: EV's, FBT's, RCF's, Yorkville, Apogee... crazy.
Joee 2:06 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
all the numbers is the bull they use to sell speakers hype up specs


Dude, I ain't looking at no ADVERTISEMENT...

Here - Passive
www.djjohnnym.com

Here - Active
www.djjohnnym.com


man now my head hearts

i am talking about the speaker/horn, i don't care what the specs say they are 100% identical in the passive and active so that means they both handle the same exact amount of power

man i have a headache
Joee 2:10 AM - 16 January, 2014
my goodness the active tells you about the power the amp puts out & the passive tells you about the power the speaker handles


man what a headache you are giving me right now …..hold on let me take another sip of my new amsterdamn and club soda……










ahhhhhhh, that more like it





man listen
DjCity 2:11 AM - 16 January, 2014
Shit.

I got more speakers than a little bit.

4 QSC KW181'S
2 yorkville Ls801pb's
2 Harbinger powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's
2 EV ELX 115p's
2 ELX 115p's
2 Behinger 12 inch powered
2 OAK double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jr double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL I don't remember single 18 passive subs.

There's more but I'm at a gig and I'm getting drunk early.
Joee 2:11 AM - 16 January, 2014
fyi i know your just trying to get on my nerves now…..lol …..ACTIVE AND PASSIVE ARE THE SAME……….lol
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:13 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
That 1 zxa5 and 1 Yorkville sounds like its handling that big auditorium...
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol.......Yea, dude is mad ghetto but he's going in the right direction.

I watched most of his vids... dude is a trip, LoL. He's got more speakers than a little bit: EV's, FBT's, RCF's, Yorkville, Apogee... crazy.


Watchwww.youtube.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:15 AM - 16 January, 2014
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fyi i know your just trying to get on my nerves now…..lol …..ACTIVE AND PASSIVE ARE THE SAME……….lol


Nope, just postin' specs...

Anyway, back on topic.
pdidy 2:19 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Shit.

I got more speakers than a little bit.

4 QSC KW181'S
2 yorkville Ls801pb's
2 Harbinger powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's
2 EV ELX 115p's
2 ELX 115p's
2 Behinger 12 inch powered
2 OAK double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jr double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL I don't remember single 18 passive subs.

There's more but I'm at a gig and I'm getting drunk early.

pictures would be nice....hint hint
DjCity 2:22 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Shit.

I got more speakers than a little bit.

4 QSC KW181'S
2 yorkville Ls801pb's
2 Harbinger powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's
2 EV ELX 115p's
2 ELX 115p's
2 Behinger 12 inch powered
2 OAK double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jr double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL I don't remember single 18 passive subs.

There's more but I'm at a gig and I'm getting drunk early.


that should say OAP subs.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:22 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Shit.

I got more speakers than a little bit.

4 QSC KW181'S
2 yorkville Ls801pb's
2 Harbinger powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's
2 EV ELX 115p's
2 ELX 115p's
2 Behinger 12 inch powered
2 OAK double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jr double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL I don't remember single 18 passive subs.

There's more but I'm at a gig and I'm getting drunk early.


Jesus Christ...
DjCity 2:23 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Shit.

I got more speakers than a little bit.

4 QSC KW181'S
2 yorkville Ls801pb's
2 Harbinger powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's
2 EV ELX 115p's
2 ELX 115p's
2 Behinger 12 inch powered
2 OAK double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jr double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL I don't remember single 18 passive subs.

There's more but I'm at a gig and I'm getting drunk early.

pictures would be nice....hint hint


When I'm not drunk I will post the pics.
DjCity 2:25 AM - 16 January, 2014
I been doing this for a minute.

I have gear rented out to clubs.

Might as well make my older shit work for me.
DjCity 2:26 AM - 16 January, 2014
I was not up on the EV Zxa5's though. I got yall to thank for that.

No bullshit. Thank you for real!
pdidy 2:27 AM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
That 1 zxa5 and 1 Yorkville sounds like its handling that big auditorium...
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol.......Yea, dude is mad ghetto but he's going in the right direction.

I watched most of his vids... dude is a trip, LoL. He's got more speakers than a little bit: EV's, FBT's, RCF's, Yorkville, Apogee... crazy.


Watchwww.youtube.com

I was at that event tailgating last September in New Jersey. Djs were coming out with some ridiculous sound systems
pdidy 2:29 AM - 16 January, 2014
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I was not up on the EV Zxa5's though. I got yall to thank for that.

No bullshit. Thank you for real!

Have you had a chance to Max them out yet ?
Joee 2:31 AM - 16 January, 2014
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Quote:
fyi i know your just trying to get on my nerves now…..lol …..ACTIVE AND PASSIVE ARE THE SAME……….lol


Nope, just postin' specs...

Anyway, back on topic.

man active and passive speakers are the same exact thing, only difference one has a on board amp & one has a external amp



when you have a pair of ZXA5'S than come talk to me about it, until than SHOUT YOUR MOUTH ………..!!!!!!!!



keep using them v35's ………your lawyer card had be revoked you are now a para legal

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Quote:
I was not up on the EV Zxa5's though. I got yall to thank for that.

No bullshit. Thank you for real!

Have you had a chance to Max them out yet ?

when he doe's boy is he going to be smiling ear to ear saying DAMN!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:35 AM - 16 January, 2014
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when you have a pair of ZXA5'S than come talk to me about it, until than SHOUT YOUR MOUTH ………..!!!!!!!!


Here you go, gettin' all misty again...

How about you learn the BASICS of the Audio chain, and when you buy something...

RTFM! :-).

It ain't that hard, then you can talk intelligently about how great speakers sound with EQ's, and limiters stopping ya boy from blowing them by playing "Move B*tch" at the next Wedding Reception you do...
pdidy 2:50 AM - 16 January, 2014
I know you are but what am I ?
Watchwww.youtube.com

They can do this forever...smh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:54 AM - 16 January, 2014
"Infinity" :-)
the_black_one 5:24 AM - 16 January, 2014
Just made some snake cables with 12 gauge cable (can handle 20 amps) one end powercon and the other regular 3 prong. The other cable in the snake is an XLR cable .
25 foot runs. made 2 of them. Then i made another set of short jumpers ( powercon ).
Working on a set of powercon and female edison.

costume made cables for quick set up and break down.

nm nh
DjCity 5:32 AM - 16 January, 2014
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Quote:
I was not up on the EV Zxa5's though. I got yall to thank for that.

No bullshit. Thank you for real!

Have you had a chance to Max them out yet ?


I don't think so.
I Jane only used one so far and only used it with the QSC's.

I'm using one stack this Saturday though.
One yorkville with one EV.

Testing in my house, I had the yorkville at unity and the EV at -12 (7:00)
I realize that is a very bad test because I'm in the house with close walls so being able to open then up in a club string may yield different results.

I look forward to finding out.
DjCity 5:33 AM - 16 January, 2014
I HAVE only used one so far.
(Drunk and auto spell is a bad combo)
Joee 11:37 AM - 16 January, 2014
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Quote:
when you have a pair of ZXA5'S than come talk to me about it, until than SHOUT YOUR MOUTH ………..!!!!!!!!


Here you go, gettin' all misty again...

How about you learn the BASICS of the Audio chain, and when you buy something...

RTFM! :-).

It ain't that hard, then you can talk intelligently about how great speakers sound with EQ's, and limiters stopping ya boy from blowing them by playing "Move B*tch" at the next Wedding Reception you do...

i object …...

the move b!tch incident happened when i was using passive ev SX500+'S back than i carried a amp rack and in said amp rack was? a eq and compressor…..your argument is null there



my decision to have a suspect dj's playing dinner music is not on trial here……..


we are here to talk about EV ZXA'5….and in you latest closing argument you are telling me that the passive & active versions have different power ratings……how can the same exact speaker have different power rating?……show me this evidence

Quote:
Quote:
all the numbers is the bull they use to sell speakers hype up specs


Dude, I ain't looking at no ADVERTISEMENT...

Here - Passive
www.djjohnnym.com

Here - Active
www.djjohnnym.com

i deem this evidence inadmissible

one spec sheet shows the power handling of the speaker while the other one shows the power output of the amplifier module



i'n my prior statement i was speaking to pdidy the guy in the video said the ZXA5 was a 1200watts speaker …..i simply said that guy was wrong …but i can see you like to argue




the speaker in question ZXA5 is NOT a 1250watt speaker it's more like a 600watt speaker…those extra watts are not used they are there for head room and short millisecond burst with peaks in the music…..i bring to your attention exhibit A..the woofer out of my blown zxa5 (again my decision to allow a suspect dj on it is not on trail)
imageshack.com

how can a 500 watt speaker be 1250?



no further questions at this time your honor
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:10 PM - 16 January, 2014
I simply asked why you're posting info from the "Passive" speaker, when it's clear that the "Active" specs are out there.

You said
Quote:
and fyi after watching that video homie posted about the zxa5 it is NOT a 1200 watt box


Pdidy said
Quote:
The zxa5 has a 1250 Watts (RMS) amp. I believe 1000watts for the sub and 250 for the hi's.


And the ACTIVE specs confirm exactly, word for word what Pdidy said...

If you would have read the manual, you would have known NOT to try and correct your Superior.

I rest my case.

You'll be getting a Mid-Term next week...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:12 PM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:

I was at that event tailgating last September in New Jersey. Djs were coming out with some ridiculous sound systems


I take it they all supplied their own generators?
Joee 2:21 PM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
I simply asked why you're posting info from the "Passive" speaker, when it's clear that the "Active" specs are out there.

You said
Quote:
and fyi after watching that video homie posted about the zxa5 it is NOT a 1200 watt box


Pdidy said
Quote:
The zxa5 has a 1250 Watts (RMS) amp. I believe 1000watts for the sub and 250 for the hi's.


And the ACTIVE specs confirm exactly, word for word what Pdidy said...

If you would have read the manual, you would have known NOT to try and correct your Superior.

I rest my case.

You'll be getting a Mid-Term next week...

i motion for this case to be thrown out

this attorney disbarred & disciplined

his punishment is as follows ……he is to carry 10 crates of records up 20 flights of steps & and then come back down and carry his turntables up the same 20 flights…..in a coffin style case





reason for said disciplinary action jump all in and not knowing ( all in my kook-aid with out knowing the flavor)

a was only speaking about speaker specs IE the woofer and horn drivers …..but pdidy knew that…..he knew i wasn't correcting him



the ev zxa5 (woofer driver) is and always will be a 500 watt speaker….the zxa5 (horn driver) is and always will be 40watts


you could put a 5000 watt amp to it that doesn't the fact that it's a 500 watt speaker


now if you want to talk about the amp output of the zxa5…..i know it's 1000+250 watts rms
imageshack.com

it say so right there^
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:32 PM - 16 January, 2014
Again, all I SAID was why are you posting the "Passive" specs...

Nobody said anything about whether the components of the speaker were or were not the same.

You were the one who came up with the fantasy of them posting "bull" to "Hype" up specs.

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all the numbers is the bull they use to sell speakers hype up specs


As you can see, all my evidence is supported by YOUR VERY OWN WORDS....

Each and every time....

It's funny when cats get caught out there acting like they know more than what they really do...

It's cool tho, you still kinda aitte...
Joee 2:41 PM - 16 January, 2014
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You were the one who came up with the fantasy of them posting "bull" to "Hype" up specs.

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all the numbers is the bull they use to sell speakers hype up specs

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don't be trying to twist my words……the say the speaker is a 1250 watt speaker…

same way qsc says k series is 1000 watts & jbl says prx700 is 1500 watts



well all know thats not true…….that amp module may throw that power…..but the speaker is not a 1250 1000 or 1500 watt



the EV ZXA5 is a 500 watt speaker thats my story & i'm sticking too…it…..;)
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:43 PM - 16 January, 2014
not that I want to get involved in this shit show...but Johnny said that no one was talking about the components of the speaker. Meanwhile that has ben Joeees case this whole time. Talking about the actual components of the speaker.
Joee 2:44 PM - 16 January, 2014
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not that I want to get involved in this shit show...but Johnny said that no one was talking about the components of the speaker. Meanwhile that has ben Joeees case this whole time. Talking about the actual components of the speaker.

were not derailing the tread right? we are still talking about the zxa5…..lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:54 PM - 16 January, 2014
lol

Not entirely!! haha
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:15 PM - 16 January, 2014
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don't be trying to twist my words………


How am I twisting YOUR words, when I'm just quoting (and bolding) exactly what YOU typed?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:16 PM - 16 January, 2014
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the(y) say the speaker is a 1250 watt speaker


Oh really?

Where do "they" say that?
Joee 3:44 PM - 16 January, 2014
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the(y) say the speaker is a 1250 watt speaker


Oh really?

Where do "they" say that?

this is one your not gonna win johnny……..

ev zxa5 1250 watts
ev elx15p 1000 watt
ev zlx15p 1000 watt

qsc k12 1000 watt

jbl prx715 1500 watt on paper this speaker here should blow the zxa5 out of the water, but it doesn't it's all hype for the people that don't know better-->www.jblpro.com


every single speaker manufacture exaggerates there speaker specs (hypes them up) you know this so why are you in here debating with me about it?

wait i know cause you like to argue……"wannabe lawyer" as proven by your avatar choices of Johnnie Cochran & Mark O'Mara



your argument is flawed………….the more you keep arguing with my about it the deeper you're gonna dig your self into a hole


none of these speaker manufactures say hey we have a 1000 watt amp, they always say we have a 1000 watt speaker……when in truth that speaker is only 200 or 300 watts
Frankie Glasses 4:40 PM - 16 January, 2014
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo................................
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Sold my k12's and just ordered the ZXA5! no thanks to you guys!!! hahahaha
Question...does it come with a nuetrik power cable or do i need to modify anything. I saw on earlier posts that you guys had to modify a standard IEC cable to a nuetrik power cable. is that just to power the other speaker???

Now time to sell my KW181.....Yorkville or the JBL or something else. What works for you guys.
Joee 4:46 PM - 16 January, 2014
i don't want to derail this thread because me being a zxa5 owner i like it…..so lets get back to talking about the EV ZXA5


EV ZXA5 woofer DVX 3150 "500 watts @ 8ohms rms"
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EV ZXA5 amp module "1000 watts rms"
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now what happens to that speaker if i feed 1000 watts of power to it? it will burn up correct? as it can't handle 1000 watts

the extra wattage is there for head room it's not being used…….i'm nut sure you 100% understand the concept of having head room in a amplifier or it's intended purpose

you did say that you run Cewin Vega V35's with a QSC MX1500?….well if thats the case you are under powering your speakers

them vegas are 300watts @ 8ohms correct?
frakatek.zikforum.com

and the rmx is 350 watts @ 8ohms correct?
www.usc.edu

so you mean to tell me that you only have 50 watts of headroom under power your speakers….and your telling me i don't know run my speakers right ……..

SMH……


now i know the extra power is not being used, but what happens when you play bass heavy music like you said you do (hit peaks in the music), the amp runs out of gas craps out and clips cause it has no more power to give……..& you say i'm not using my speaker to it's full capabilities

SMH……


headroom is a must in a amplifier & you need more than 50 watts of it!


& the EV ZXA5 has headroom to spare! if you want clean sound you need ample power, i put that before signal processing any day ;)
Joee 4:49 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Sold my k12's and just ordered the ZXA5! no thanks to you guys!!! hahahaha
Question...does it come with a nuetrik power cable or do i need to modify anything. I saw on earlier posts that you guys had to modify a standard IEC cable to a nuetrik power cable. is that just to power the other speaker???

Now time to sell my KW181.....Yorkville or the JBL or something else. What works for you guys.

congrats……..seems like this hole forum will buy them and johnny will still be asking about them……..lol

they come with the power cable (nuetrik) the cable you will have to make is the jumper if you want it
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:57 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Sold my k12's and just ordered the ZXA5! no thanks to you guys!!! hahahaha

Question...does it come with a nuetrik power cable or do i need to modify anything. I saw on earlier posts that you guys had to modify a standard IEC cable to a nuetrik power cable. is that just to power the other speaker???



Now time to sell my KW181.....Yorkville or the JBL or something else. What works for you guys.


It comes with 1 nuetrik powercon cable. Most of us just make additionals (in case something breaks) and a jumper so you can power one speaker from the other. That is not included, but can make yourself for very cheap.
Frankie Glasses 5:03 PM - 16 January, 2014
OK gotcha.
Lets say i did want to power another kind of speaker. I can then make a nuetrik to IEC and it will power the other speaker as well?
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:07 PM - 16 January, 2014
Absolutely!

I made a powercon out (grey) to an IEC to power a small LED light that I mount below my speakers on my speaker stands. Works perfectly!
Joee 5:46 PM - 16 January, 2014
@ Frankie Glasses did they give you a deal on them under $1,400?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:34 PM - 16 January, 2014
I asked you a SIMPLE QUESTION.

You said -
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the(y) say the speaker is a 1250 watt speaker


Where EXACTLY do "They" say that?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:41 PM - 16 January, 2014
And LMAO @ you saying
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……"wannabe lawyer"


When just a few posts up, you were saying
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ay DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 are you a lawyer? cause if your not you missed you calling kid

is it too late for you to go to law school…..Sh!t i think you will make super lawyer your first year out of law school

WORD son leave dj'ing alone become a attorney!!!!!!!!!!!!


and

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SH!T i would hire you for real…….i KNOW you would do a ther ROOO job on the case word


But now that I'm doing a "ther ROOO job" on you, it's not all grits-n-gravy...

It's aitte tho...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:42 PM - 16 January, 2014
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you did say that you run Cewin Vega V35's with a QSC MX1500?….well if thats the case you are under powering your speakers


You didn't ask me if I was using BRIDGE mode, now did you?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:45 PM - 16 January, 2014
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& the EV ZXA5 has headroom to spare! if you want clean sound you need ample power, i put that before signal processing any day ;)


Of COURSE you would...

Because you don't know WTF you're TALKING about...

Everybody with ANY Audio knowledge knows, the signal has to be clean FIRST.....

Garbage In / Garbage Out....

smh...

You'd be better off sticking with uplighting man....

Do you use your 62's JUST for vinyl as well?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:47 PM - 16 January, 2014
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seems like this hole forum will buy them and johnny will still be asking about them……..lol


lol, THIS is why I "respond" to you, and you get all wrinkly in the face....

LMAO...

Cats on here don't know WTF they be talkin' about ....but be steady "sellin"...

Bwhahahahahaha.

It's all good tho...

Glad you were exposed before somebody else fell for it... :-)
DJ GaFFle 7:05 PM - 16 January, 2014
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EV ZXA5 woofer DVX 3150 "500 watts @ 8ohms rms"
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EV ZXA5 amp module "1000 watts rms"
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now what happens to that speaker if i feed 1000 watts of power to it? it will burn up correct? as it can't handle 1000 watts

the extra wattage is there for head room it's not being used…….i'm nut sure you 100% understand the concept of having head room in a amplifier or it's intended purpose

I wouldn't necessarily say you'd "burn up" a 500W rms speaker up with a 1000W amp. I know you've seen these type of ratings before.

EV DVX3150A
500 watts continuous / 1000 watts program / 2000 watts peak @ 8 Ohms
EV ND2
40 watts continuous / 80 watts program / 160 watts peak @ 8 Ohms

Continuous or RMS = long term power it can handle w/o issue (a pure signal... sine or pink noise)
Program = musical signals it can handle w/ dynamics (quiet parts and loud parts... the less dynamics and too much compression, the more dangerous because it looks more like a pure, noisy, pink-noise signal... aka: "6 foot 7 foot" :-)
Peak = very quick transients in music (kick, snare, etc) that it's capable of handling for just a few milliseconds. Anything too long, then you have over-excursion or burning up your voice coils.

With EV's amp is supposedly capable of delivering
1000watts RMS to the LF
250watts RMS to the HF

Those amp ratings may not be over the entire sound spectrum (20-20KHz). It could be an output value just at the standard 1KHz, which a lot of manufacturers do (for marketing). Usually the 20-20KHz output power rating is about 100-150 watts less than the 1KHz value. Of course EV designed the appropriate power to be just right for their included drivers in this speaker. It was designed for the pro-level market, thus the original $1900+ entry fee back in '06. This is probably why built-in limiting wasn't included in the ZXA5 because most pro's have external DSP protecting their speakers. It's us DJ's that need training wheels with all sort of protection to keep us from blowing stuff up. I actually blew a voice coil in my ZXA5 early on and learned my lesson. I now run a EV DC One processor with slight limiting and the PEQ's set for the EV. There are some cuts and adds that supposedly help smooth out the sound of the box at highest volumes. At smaller gigs, I honestly won't bother with the DSP because I don't take the volume as high, plus, my DSP is installed in a large rolling amp rack. At smaller gigs, I usually end up bringing my RCF408A's or RCF312A's and a sub.

I will say that wattage is not what one should pay attention to when trying to decide on a speaker based on specs. Besides the obvious stuff: build quality, materials, driver size, etc., it's sensitivity is key in how loud that driver will get with just 1 watt feeding it. The JBL SRX series are great and the defacto standard for the lower-tier pro-audio world but their sensitivity is pretty low so it takes a helluva lot of amp power to get any good SPL out of them. There's a whole lot of other stuff like compression and such that goes into how a speaker performs but it just gets even more complicated.

I may not be 100% correct on the above so this is just my $.02.
Joee 7:07 PM - 16 January, 2014
no it's cooler than a fan baby ;)

but that was one argument you were not gonna win…..as all i was doing was stating ZXA5 speaker spec actual real specs…….not correcting pdidy or bringing his knowledge in to question……

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you did say that you run Cewin Vega V35's with a QSC MX1500?….well if thats the case you are under powering your speakers


You didn't ask me if I was using BRIDGE mode, now did you?


you right i take that one back……..i prefer stereo my self not mono


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seems like this hole forum will buy them and johnny will still be asking about them……..lol


lol, THIS is why I "respond" to you, and you get all wrinkly in the face....

LMAO...

Cats on here don't know WTF they be talkin' about ....but be steady "sellin"...

Bwhahahahahaha.

It's all good tho...

Glad you were exposed before somebody else fell for it... :-)

and what exactly did you expose? that i chose to carry as little gear as possible? so i don't carry a eq/compressor/limiter …….for you that may mean that i don't know what i'm doing but for me i means i work less

"wrinkly in the face…." excuse me? …….just in case you think i'm taking this to heart…..let me tell you that these past few days have been entertaining to say the least & has been just that entertainment….…


as for me talking about if you will buy a pair….it's been a long time since you asked pididy about a zxa5 & at least four forum members have made zxa5 purchases….but not you

i'm starting to think that DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 actually owning a pair of EV ZXA5'S is a myth & fairy tail…….like the unicorn


but like i said no feelings here…..we cool as a fan!
Joee 7:13 PM - 16 January, 2014
"EV DVX3150A
500 watts continuous / 1000 watts program / 2000 watts peak @ 8 Ohms
EV ND2
40 watts continuous / 80 watts program / 160 watts peak @ 8 Ohms

Continuous or RMS = long term power it can handle w/o issue (a pure signal... sine or pink noise)
Program = musical signals it can handle w/ dynamics (quiet parts and loud parts... the less dynamics and too much compression, the more dangerous because it looks more like a pure, noisy, pink-noise signal... aka: "6 foot 7 foot" :-)
Peak = very quick transients in music (kick, snare, etc) that it's capable of handling for just a few milliseconds. Anything too long, then you have over-excursion or burning up your voice coils."

the woofer will NOT handle 1000 watts of continuos power (of music being played) for a extended period of time…... that what i'm getting at
DjCity 7:20 PM - 16 January, 2014
Some more pics of some of my gear.
The other stuff is in various clubs.

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DjCity 7:21 PM - 16 January, 2014
I know it's not neat but...

I own what I say I own. I have what I say I have.

I don't bullshit.
pdidy 7:24 PM - 16 January, 2014
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I was at that event tailgating last September in New Jersey. Djs were coming out with some ridiculous sound systems


I take it they all supplied their own generators?

yep, some had as many as 6. i had my 4 vrx subs an 4 tops but i would have needed a minimum of 8 subs to even come close to competing with some of these sets.
Joee 7:26 PM - 16 January, 2014
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At smaller gigs, I honestly won't bother with the DSP because I don't take the volume as high, /quote]




witch is why i don't carry eq/compressors/limiters …….
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:28 PM - 16 January, 2014
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but like i said no feelings here…..we cool as a fan!


Good, cuz I can't hang with cats that can't take a good ribbing...

:-)
Joee 7:29 PM - 16 January, 2014
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I know it's not neat but...

I own what I say I own. I have what I say I have.

I don't bullshit.

nice ……you have more sound than a little bit……lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:29 PM - 16 January, 2014
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At smaller gigs, I honestly won't bother with the DSP because I don't take the volume as high, /quote]
witch is why i don't carry eq/compressors/limiters …….


It's a single rack mount device, but again, those who don't understand the value of audio elements won't get the most bang for their buck...
Joee 7:30 PM - 16 January, 2014
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but like i said no feelings here…..we cool as a fan!


Good, cuz I can't hang with cats that can't take a good ribbing...

:-)

you didn't ribb nutin……lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:31 PM - 16 January, 2014
Good info DJ Gaffle.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:32 PM - 16 January, 2014
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yep, some had as many as 6. i had my 4 vrx subs an 4 tops but i would have needed a minimum of 8 subs to even come close to competing with some of these sets.


Crazy.
Joee 7:34 PM - 16 January, 2014
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At smaller gigs, I honestly won't bother with the DSP because I don't take the volume as high, /quote]
witch is why i don't carry eq/compressors/limiters …….


It's a single rack mount device, but again, those who don't understand the value of audio elements won't get the most bang for their buck...

un huhhhh

so now GaFFle said for small event he doesn't use dsp either ……does that mean he don't know his stuff?………….

ay GaFFle what would you categorize as a small event …….for the type of gigs you do( how many people) ?
DJ GaFFle 7:34 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Some more pics of some of my gear.
The other stuff is in various clubs.

So what's DJCity's address again?
:-)
(nm/nh)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:35 PM - 16 January, 2014
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the woofer will NOT handle 1000 watts of continuos power (of music being played) for a extended period of time…... that what i'm getting at


Who ever said the "Woofer" specifically?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:35 PM - 16 January, 2014
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At smaller gigs, I honestly won't bother with the DSP because I don't take the volume as high, /quote]
witch is why i don't carry eq/compressors/limiters …….


It's a single rack mount device, but again, those who don't understand the value of audio elements won't get the most bang for their buck...

un huhhhh

so now GaFFle said for small event he doesn't use dsp either ……does that mean he don't know his stuff?………….

ay GaFFle what would you categorize as a small event …….for the type of gigs you do( how many people) ?


But check it...
















I bet you he has an EQ.....
Joee 7:37 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Good info DJ Gaffle.

+1 i don't ever never ever ever ……pretend to know more than GaFFle or pdidy


now that guy DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 i just might…….lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:40 PM - 16 January, 2014
Did I accuse you of pretending to know more than GaFFle or Pdidy?

The conscious is a muhfuggah....
Joee 7:42 PM - 16 January, 2014
^ no conscious

i'm giving props were props is due!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:44 PM - 16 January, 2014
Sure, we know...we know....
Joee 7:51 PM - 16 January, 2014
ay johnny give me a minute i'm gonna show you something……cause there is something that do know…...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:56 PM - 16 January, 2014
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ay johnny give me a minute i'm gonna show you something……cause there is something that do know…...


So you just wanna keep this goin....

Ok, I ain't got nuffin' but time...
DjCity 7:58 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Some more pics of some of my gear.
The other stuff is in various clubs.

So what's DJCity's address again?
:-)
(nm/nh)


I live on the corner of east Bubblefuck and you'll never find me street.

Right next to the club.
DjCity 8:01 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Records
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:07 PM - 16 January, 2014
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You must have put that there for me...

Cuz, I was like "Eff" the equipment, "What's in that crate he got there"...lmao.
Joee 8:08 PM - 16 January, 2014
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ay johnny give me a minute i'm gonna show you something……cause there is something that do know…...


So you just wanna keep this goin....

Ok, I ain't got nuffin' but time...

i did make a purchase this week ups just got here

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:10 PM - 16 January, 2014
Ohhh. Goodie....Cardboard boxes.....
Joee 8:23 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Ohhh. Goodie....Cardboard boxes.....

with ev's on the inside.not ZXA5's but still ev's
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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:44 PM - 16 January, 2014
Too bad you probably won't know how to work them...efficiently....:-)
pdidy 8:52 PM - 16 January, 2014
Day 4 an still going strong.....smh
DJ GaFFle 8:58 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Day 4 an still going strong.....smh

We need referee intervention cdn2.cagepotato.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:10 PM - 16 January, 2014
lololol
Joee 9:19 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Day 4 an still going strong.....smh

We need referee intervention cdn2.cagepotato.com

LMAO……….ahahahahahahahahahahaaa



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Day 4 an still going strong.....smh

ay i bother no one on this forum……i help out were i can & be cool with errbody….lol

@ DJ GaFFle stop plain…….toooo funny …..witch one is johnny & witch one is me?
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:21 PM - 16 January, 2014
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with ev's on the inside.not ZXA5's but still ev's

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Are those the 12s or 15s? How much did you pay for those?

I kept one of my RCF 312s but may get rid of that and pick up 2 ZLX12s for really small events.
Joee 9:27 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Ohhh. Goodie....Cardboard boxes.....


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Are those the 12s or 15s? How much did you pay for those?

I kept one of my RCF 312s but may get rid of that and pick up 2 ZLX12s for really small events.

there 12's $900…...do NOT sell your 312a for a zlx12p….the rcf sounds better in every way
Joee 9:29 PM - 16 January, 2014
^ now if you can sell that one rcf and buy two zlx's with out having to put money out of pocket ……i can see why you'd want to do so, makes sense
pdidy 9:29 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Ohhh. Goodie....Cardboard boxes.....


with ev's on the inside.not ZXA5's but still ev's

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Are those the 12s or 15s? How much did you pay for those?

I kept one of my RCF 312s but may get rid of that and pick up 2 ZLX12s for really small events.

there 12's $900…...do NOT sell your 312a for a zlx12p….the rcf sounds better in every way

$900 for all 4 ? what will there function be considering the other speakers you have ?
Joee 9:31 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Too bad you probably won't know how to work them...efficiently....:-)

i'm gonna make money with them and i won't even be using them…..i'd say thats pretty efficient…..
;)
Joee 9:33 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Ohhh. Goodie....Cardboard boxes.....


with ev's on the inside.not ZXA5's but still ev's

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Are those the 12s or 15s? How much did you pay for those?

I kept one of my RCF 312s but may get rid of that and pick up 2 ZLX12s for really small events.

there 12's $900…...do NOT sell your 312a for a zlx12p….the rcf sounds better in every way

$900 for all 4 ? what will there function be considering the other speakers you have ?

yup…9 there passive just needed something cheap to give to dj's sent out on gigs….supply them with the gear & take a bigger cut
DJ GaFFle 9:35 PM - 16 January, 2014
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yup…9 there passive just needed something cheap to give to dj's sent out on gigs….supply them with the gear & take a bigger cut

So will you be supplying the amps as well? If so, what types?
pdidy 9:35 PM - 16 January, 2014
Oh ok...cool
DJ Guayo 9:41 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Day 4 an still going strong.....smh


fo realz... lulz
Joee 9:41 PM - 16 January, 2014
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yup…9 there passive just needed something cheap to give to dj's sent out on gigs….supply them with the gear & take a bigger cut

So will you be supplying the amps as well? If so, what types?

yep gx5's
DJ GaFFle 9:45 PM - 16 January, 2014
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yup…9 there passive just needed something cheap to give to dj's sent out on gigs….supply them with the gear & take a bigger cut

So will you be supplying the amps as well? If so, what types?

yep gx5's

I'm not looking up the specs but is that amp properly matched to those tops? My question is because I'm just imagining lending out systems to 'other DJs' and them red-lighting your gear to oblivion. I guess you'll have contracts protecting yourself against equipment failures and such.
Joee 10:02 PM - 16 January, 2014
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yup…9 there passive just needed something cheap to give to dj's sent out on gigs….supply them with the gear & take a bigger cut

So will you be supplying the amps as well? If so, what types?

yep gx5's

I'm not looking up the specs but is that amp properly matched to those tops? My question is because I'm just imagining lending out systems to 'other DJs' and them red-lighting your gear to oblivion. I guess you'll have contracts protecting yourself against equipment failures and such.


yes the amp is double the power of the speaker,this is the cheap gear that i don't care about……the dj understands if you break it you buy it or fix it……if not i will no longer use him


these are the gig's that i don't take cause there low pay…..but best be leave i'm still going to get some money from it
Frankie Glasses 10:12 PM - 16 January, 2014
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@ Frankie Glasses did they give you a deal on them under $1,400?


no
@1400. Couldnt get them down any further.
Joee 10:17 PM - 16 January, 2014
^ thats still not too bad! it is a $1,700 speaker

i'd say you got a deal….provided your total for two was $2,800 out the door tax/shipping included

i payed $1,305 for mine years ago
Joee 10:40 PM - 16 January, 2014
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@ Frankie Glasses did they give you a deal on them under $1,400?


no
@1400. Couldnt get them down any further.

please come back and give your review when you get the ;)
Frankie Glasses 10:50 PM - 16 January, 2014
^^^will do
DjCity 10:51 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Shit.

I got more speakers than a little bit.

4 QSC KW181'S
2 yorkville Ls801pb's
2 Harbinger powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's
2 EV ELX 115p's
2 ELX 115p's
2 Behinger 12 inch powered
2 OAK double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jr double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL I don't remember single 18 passive subs.

There's more but I'm at a gig and I'm getting drunk early.


that should say OAP subs.


Let me clear these typos up

4 QSC KW181'S powered subs
2 Yorkville Ls801pb's powered subs
2 Harbinger HPX-18S Single 18 powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ELX 115p's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ZLX 112p's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B212D's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B215D's 15 inch powered tops
2 OAP double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jrx double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL MRX single 18 passive subs.
2 JBL MRX 525 double 15 passive tops.

I was drunk when I first posted this.
DjCity 10:54 PM - 16 January, 2014
These speaker bags look kinda nice for the ZXA5's

www.odysseygear.com

I'm loving the pockets. Tuki has no pockets.
Joee 10:55 PM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:



4 QSC KW181'S powered subs
2 Yorkville Ls801pb's powered subs
2 Harbinger HPX-18S Single 18 powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ELX 115p's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ZLX 112p's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B212D's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B215D's 15 inch powered tops
2 OAP double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jrx double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL MRX single 18 passive subs.
2 JBL MRX 525 double 15 passive tops.

I was drunk when I first posted this.

naaa thats not nofin …..your speaker count is on the light side……you don't have that many speakers……….lol

*sarcasm*


so is the ZXA5 your new favorite speaker?
Joee 10:57 PM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:
These speaker bags look kinda nice for the ZXA5's

www.odysseygear.com

I'm loving the pockets. Tuki has no pockets.

do what i do put the power cable on top of the speaker than put the bag on...
DjCity 11:00 PM - 16 January, 2014
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4 QSC KW181'S powered subs
2 Yorkville Ls801pb's powered subs
2 Harbinger HPX-18S Single 18 powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ELX 115p's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ZLX 112p's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B212D's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B215D's 15 inch powered tops
2 OAP double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jrx double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL MRX single 18 passive subs.
2 JBL MRX 525 double 15 passive tops.

I was drunk when I first posted this.

naaa thats not nofin …..your speaker count is on the light side……you don't have that many speakers……….lol

*sarcasm*


so is the ZXA5 your new favorite speaker?


So far...
Yes!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:03 PM - 16 January, 2014
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Day 4 an still going strong.....smh


We need referee intervention cdn2.cagepotato.com


I'm the one still standing!
Joee 11:11 PM - 16 January, 2014
Quote:




so is the ZXA5 your new favorite speaker?

So far...
Yes!!!

i think is will continue to be your favorite speaker, the only way that will change is if you buy a 3 way powered box

Quote:
Quote:
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Day 4 an still going strong.....smh


We need referee intervention cdn2.cagepotato.com


I'm the one still standing!

so your the referee?

@ DJ GaFFle i can't help but LOL for real every time i see it……….lol
thank you for posting i'm lol so much my eyes are tearing up….that was funny
pdidy 12:04 AM - 17 January, 2014
@ DJCITY

you need to do a:

4 QSC KW181'S powered subs

VS

2 Yorkville Ls801pb's powered subs
Joee 12:34 AM - 17 January, 2014
ay Certified Quality Entertainment

something you might find amusing…..you were looking to upgrade your rcf's cause you felt you could use a little more output! you wanted zxa5's

fast forward you got rid of your rcf's…..& now have zxa5's & love them? they will be your main rig?


i already owned zxa5's & was looking for a better small system…...i got my self some rcf's and love them…….there are now my main system….as the ev's were over kill for most of my gig's


so you stepped away for rcf and moved to ev zxa5….and are super happy
&
i stepped away from ev zxa5 and moved to rcf…..and i am super happy

i just thought that was funny……lol
pdidy 12:45 AM - 17 January, 2014
Now that everybody getting up on zxa5's, I need to find something New and shinny....
Joee 12:56 AM - 17 January, 2014
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Now that everybody getting up on zxa5's, I need to find something New and shinny....

lol……….you know there in nothing out there

in the price range…..maybe time for them line array JBL's….i'm just saying……lol
DjCity 1:48 AM - 17 January, 2014
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@ DJCITY

you need to do a:

4 QSC KW181'S powered subs

VS

2 Yorkville Ls801pb's powered subs


Good idea.

I just need the venue to do it in.
Joee 1:52 AM - 17 January, 2014
^ i already know the out come of this test/shootout…….lol

even tho i have not done it…..pdidy knows also
the_black_one 1:56 AM - 17 January, 2014
This one has legs... 10 days minimum ...

Nm nh
DjCity 1:56 AM - 17 January, 2014
Yeah...

I know the outcome as well but it would be a pretty nice night sound wise.
DjCity 1:58 AM - 17 January, 2014
Who knows...

One day this summer, I might just drag it ALL outside and do a party for the whole DMV.

Ain't like I won't have enough sound.
Especially since i'm already considering getting another pair of Yorkvills.
Joee 2:03 AM - 17 January, 2014
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This one has legs... 10 days minimum ...

Nm nh

was up my dude …..were have you been? i could have used another knowledgeable person on the zxa5 subject (actual owners) ………..lol
Joee 2:06 AM - 17 January, 2014
^ to state facts about the box…….and not spec sheet reading material
Joee 2:10 AM - 17 January, 2014
^ but i got it straighten out……being that i own it and actually know about it….. ;)
Joee 2:37 AM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:
This one has legs... 10 days minimum ...

Nm nh

wait do you mean that we are going to be debating for 10 days?…….lol

that would be way too damn long to be arguing……..lol…..not me

you my find this entertaining
imageshack.com

that right there ended it…….lol


period point blank……..!!!!!!!
Al Poulin 2:42 AM - 17 January, 2014
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Now that everybody getting up on zxa5's, I need to find something New and shinny....


The new (released a year ago but just starting to ship) Yorkville Parasource PS-15P could be interesting. Not the best looking box IMO, but it looks to be highly powered and processed. The 4400 watt marketing number is funny and unforunately takes away some credibility from Yorkville, but I bet it sounds great and gets loud. It is 60lbs, but I would like to see how it compares to ZX5A and DSR115.

Al
pdidy 2:53 AM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
This one has legs... 10 days minimum ...

Nm nh

wait do you mean that we are going to be debating for 10 days?…….lol

that would be way too damn long to be arguing……..lol…..not me

you my find this entertaining
imageshack.com

that right there ended it…….lol


period point blank……..!!!!!!!

d12xzpun4kqsb2.cloudfront.net
the_black_one 3:25 AM - 17 January, 2014
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Quote:
This one has legs... 10 days minimum ...

Nm nh

wait do you mean that we are going to be debating for 10 days?…….lol

that would be way too damn long to be arguing……..lol…..not me

you my find this entertaining
imageshack.com

that right there ended it…….lol


period point blank……..!!!!!!!


i have a pair of them as well (12')

nm nh
djdisbjohn 3:31 AM - 17 January, 2014
What does NM NH stand for in tag line?
DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:59 AM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:
What does NM NH stand for in tag line?


Never Mind Not Home
DJ GaFFle 11:45 AM - 17 January, 2014
Lol
Joee 12:52 PM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
This one has legs... 10 days minimum ...

Nm nh

wait do you mean that we are going to be debating for 10 days?…….lol

that would be way too damn long to be arguing……..lol…..not me

you my find this entertaining
imageshack.com

that right there ended it…….lol


period point blank……..!!!!!!!

d12xzpun4kqsb2.cloudfront.net

lol…….i don't think so because a hole lot of the debate was talking about the EV ZXA5


hell even Frankie Glasses bought a pair and said "thanks to you guys and all this talking about zxa5's i bought a pair……….lol




when your talking about a small wonder of a speaker…..it's hard to derail, we will always come back to it


no matter how much " mark o'mara " wants to argue!!!!!!

ZXA5 carry on ;)
Joee 1:37 PM - 17 January, 2014
man even Russia knows what time it is -----> www.facebook.com
Joee 2:09 PM - 17 January, 2014
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Now that everybody getting up on zxa5's, I need to find something New and shinny....


The new (released a year ago but just starting to ship) Yorkville Parasource PS-15P could be interesting. Not the best looking box IMO, but it looks to be highly powered and processed. The 4400 watt marketing number is funny and unforunately takes away some credibility from Yorkville, but I bet it sounds great and gets loud. It is 60lbs, but I would like to see how it compares to ZX5A and DSR115.

Al

it looks interesting-----> yorkville.com

only a 1"inch exit on the horn……not going to be a s loud as a ZXA5 or DSR15 i'd say
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:09 PM - 17 January, 2014
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ay Certified Quality Entertainment



something you might find amusing…..you were looking to upgrade your rcf's cause you felt you could use a little more output! you wanted zxa5's



fast forward you got rid of your rcf's…..& now have zxa5's & love them? they will be your main rig?





i already owned zxa5's & was looking for a better small system…...i got my self some rcf's and love them…….there are now my main system….as the ev's were over kill for most of my gig's





so you stepped away for rcf and moved to ev zxa5….and are super happy

&

i stepped away from ev zxa5 and moved to rcf…..and i am super happy



i just thought that was funny……lol


Funny the way things happened. The ZXA5s will be my main rig, big party or small as I sold off my RCFs. Even for smaller parties I was taking 2 RCF tops with 1 RCF718. I figured now for those I can take just the ZXA5s an no sub. Won't have quite as much bass but will probably be close and not really noticeable for the guests.

But for those times where I saw the limit light blinking on my RCFs, I would start to get nervous, now I won't have any problems with that on the EVs.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:10 PM - 17 January, 2014
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no matter how much " mark o'mara " wants to argue!!!!!!


Man, I haven't even BEGUN to "argue".

I was just pointing out how some cats TALK a lot, but ain't really sayin' nuffin...

:-)
the_black_one 3:21 PM - 17 January, 2014
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no matter how much " mark o'mara " wants to argue!!!!!!


Man, I haven't even BEGUN to "argue".

I was just pointing out how some cats TALK a lot, but ain't really sayin' nuffin...

:-)



9 more days ... The dream is alive

Nm nh
Joee 3:24 PM - 17 January, 2014
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no matter how much " mark o'mara " wants to argue!!!!!!


Man, I haven't even BEGUN to "argue".

I was just pointing out how some cats TALK a lot, but ain't really sayin' nuffin...

:-)

well ARGUE on mark o'mara…..i have nothing but time…..

but please lets keep the arguing about the EV ZXA5 (amp/speaker specs and such)….lets not completely derail this thread
DJ GaFFle 3:57 PM - 17 January, 2014
Oh boy... here ya'll go: imagecache2.allposters.com
Joee 4:06 PM - 17 January, 2014
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Oh boy... here ya'll go: imagecache2.allposters.com

i'm good GaFFle, if anything i'm a little excited about the new EV speakers..…..


new toys….lol


johnny is cool in my book
DjCity 4:18 PM - 17 January, 2014
Still talking about the zxa5's.

To tame them and the yorkvilles....

Driverack px or EV DC one

Thoughts?
Joee 4:21 PM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:
Still talking about the zxa5's.

To tame them and the yorkvilles....

Driverack px or EV DC one

Thoughts?

you might want to look at this new one
www.dbxpro.com
the_black_one 4:22 PM - 17 January, 2014
I believe gaffle has the ev unit. I have the Px and pa driverack sand really like the the pa because it's 3 way and it has mute buttons. Cheaper as well ...

Nm nh
the_black_one 4:24 PM - 17 January, 2014
The new driverack is looking nice.... Full control on your mobile device and computer or tablet. Have kept my eye on it but has not dropped

Nm nh
DJ GaFFle 4:49 PM - 17 January, 2014
The DR PA2 is definitely newer with a few nice features. It should also be a lot cheaper than the EV DC One. Under the hood, I'd guess the EV DC One has more pro-level features but I may be mistaken. Things like delay capability (the longer the better), unit security lockout, number of in/outputs, and A/D bit conversion make a difference to the pro's among other things. Having an intuitive GUI or LCD display goes a long way too.

I'd go with the cheaper co$t one if I were a DJ just looking for a unit.

(nm)
DjCity 4:56 PM - 17 January, 2014
I already have the pa. Just got the px.

Just looking to see if the EV is worth the price tag.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:58 PM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:
well ARGUE on mark o'mara…..i have nothing but time…..

but please lets keep the arguing about the EV ZXA5 (amp/speaker specs and such)….lets not completely derail this thread


Ain't nothing to "Argue" about, I just RESPOND whenever you start tugging at my coattail as to why or when I "Need" to upgrade something....

LOL, why don't YOU buy me some EV's, and this convo can be put to rest?

lol, man I promise not to get you all misty in the future....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:59 PM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:

johnny is cool in my book


and he in mine....but he should still "Read" the "book"...

:-).
Al Poulin 6:33 PM - 17 January, 2014
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Quote:
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Now that everybody getting up on zxa5's, I need to find something New and shinny....


The new (released a year ago but just starting to ship) Yorkville Parasource PS-15P could be interesting. Not the best looking box IMO, but it looks to be highly powered and processed. The 4400 watt marketing number is funny and unforunately takes away some credibility from Yorkville, but I bet it sounds great and gets loud. It is 60lbs, but I would like to see how it compares to ZX5A and DSR115.

Al

it looks interesting-----> yorkville.com

only a 1"inch exit on the horn……not going to be a s loud as a ZXA5 or DSR15 i'd say



Actually, ZXA5 and DSR115 both have 1’’ exits, as does the PS-15P. The ZXA5 and DSR115 HF drivers have 2’’ voice coils however vs the Yorkville’s 1.5’’. Why Yorkville didn’t use a bigger HF driver with bigger exit – especially considering the price of the PS cabs and supposedly 4400 watts of available power is beyond me. It is a little odd that the components in the PS12P seem very similar to what you find in the NX55P. Perhaps the PS12P is simply an NX55P with better (more transparent) processing and higher applied power, oh, and perhaps it was inadvertently hit with an ugly stick.
Joee 7:22 PM - 17 January, 2014
is it? i thought i was bigger…..i guess i was looking a the actual size of the horn & not the exit….


that said the york might be a good option for those looking at the zxa5….depending on price point
Joee 7:29 PM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:


LOL, why don't YOU buy me some EV's, and this convo can be put to rest?

lol, man I promise not to get you all misty in the future....


& why would i buy you ev's?

the only one that made me misty was GAF when he posted this--> cdn2.cagepotato.com

i laughed so much my eyee got watery
Taipanic 7:51 PM - 17 January, 2014
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4 QSC KW181'S powered subs
2 Yorkville Ls801pb's powered subs
2 Harbinger HPX-18S Single 18 powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ELX 115p's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ZLX 112p's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B212D's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B215D's 15 inch powered tops
2 OAP double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jrx double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL MRX single 18 passive subs.
2 JBL MRX 525 double 15 passive tops.

I was drunk when I first posted this.

naaa thats not nofin …..your speaker count is on the light side……you don't have that many speakers……….lol

*sarcasm*


so is the ZXA5 your new favorite speaker?


So far...
Yes!!!


If you want to really hear the potential of the ZXa5s, take them to a decent size room along with your 2 Yorkville & 4 QSC subs, properly configure them in a Driverack, and turn it up. You should have a pretty decent balance of highs/lows while running somewhere in the mid to upper 130 db range. Might want to use earplugs ;-)
DjCity 8:36 PM - 17 January, 2014
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Quote:
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4 QSC KW181'S powered subs
2 Yorkville Ls801pb's powered subs
2 Harbinger HPX-18S Single 18 powered subs
2 EV Zxa5's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ELX 115p's 15 inch powered tops
2 EV ZLX 112p's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B212D's 12 inch powered tops
2 Behringer B215D's 15 inch powered tops
2 OAP double 18 passive subs
4 JBL Jrx double 16 passive
4 Yamaha s 115v passive
2 JBL MRX single 18 passive subs.
2 JBL MRX 525 double 15 passive tops.

I was drunk when I first posted this.

naaa thats not nofin …..your speaker count is on the light side……you don't have that many speakers……….lol

*sarcasm*


so is the ZXA5 your new favorite speaker?


So far...
Yes!!!


If you want to really hear the potential of the ZXa5s, take them to a decent size room along with your 2 Yorkville & 4 QSC subs, properly configure them in a Driverack, and turn it up. You should have a pretty decent balance of highs/lows while running somewhere in the mid to upper 130 db range. Might want to use earplugs ;-)


I'm thinking 2 Yorkvilles AND 4 QSC KW181'S with 2 zxa5's might be a bit much.

That's a hell of a lot of bass even for the zxa5's I would think.
Joee 8:46 PM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:


I'm thinking 2 Yorkvilles AND 4 QSC KW181'S with 2 zxa5's might be a bit much.

That's a hell of a lot of bass even for the zxa5's I would think.

i'm not sure about that it's been said before that you would need 3 yorks to keep up with one zxa5…….them zxa5's get LOOOOOOUUUUDDDD!!
Rebelguy 9:14 PM - 17 January, 2014
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I'm thinking 2 Yorkvilles AND 4 QSC KW181'S with 2 zxa5's might be a bit much.

That's a hell of a lot of bass even for the zxa5's I would think.

i'm not sure about that it's been said before that you would need 3 yorks to keep up with one zxa5…….them zxa5's get LOOOOOOUUUUDDDD!!



So the ZXA5s show a max SPL of 133db.

Does this mean the RCF TT5-A would basically walk all over them since they have a max SPL of 136db? Of course they weigh 92lbs and are around $3500 ea...haha
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:26 PM - 17 January, 2014
Probably, but you can get 2 ZXA5s for the price of 1 RCF. At that point the 2 ZXAs will be louder.

Take it further and say you would get a pair (which most people would) you can get 4 ZXAs which I think would crush the 2 RCFs. I would say the 4 ZXAs can handle at least 1000 people. Adding in subs for both of course.
the_black_one 9:33 PM - 17 January, 2014
I have 4 of them and 4 yorks... It's fucking loud.....


Nm nh
Joee 9:34 PM - 17 January, 2014
the jbl prx715 has a spl rating of 136 also & that speaker comes no ware near the performance of the zxa5

now that rcf it's a hole different animal….this right here means it a monster "2" titanium dome neo compression driver, 4.0" v.c."
djdisbjohn 9:47 PM - 17 January, 2014
so the new EV speaker line that is coming out is named ETX series... don't know the specs yet...
dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Joee 9:48 PM - 17 January, 2014
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So the ZXA5s show a max SPL of 133db.

Does this mean the RCF TT5-A would basically walk all over them since they have a max SPL of 136db? Of course they weigh 92lbs and are around $3500 ea...haha



that rcf is out of the running buy default……


the ev zxa5 being the BEST two 15 box you can buy "IN it's price range" of $1,300 to $1,400


man would i love to hear them tho
djdisbjohn 9:55 PM - 17 January, 2014
The RCF TT25A is a possible contender, but it can be had for around $1700

Acoustical Specifications
Frequency Response -10 dB: 50 Hz ÷ 20 kHz
Max SPL @ 1m: 136 dB
Horizontal coverage angle: 90°
Vertical coverage angle: 40°
System Sensitivity: 100 dB
Nominal Impedance: 8 Ω
Power Handling: 1000 W
Peak Power Handling: 4000 W
Recommended Amplifier: 2000 Watt
Protections: Dynamic mosfet
Crossover frequencies: 1.3 Hz
Transducers
Compression Driver: 1.5" HFdriver, 3" voice coil
Nominal Impedance: 8 Ω
Input Power Rating: 100 W AES
Sensitivity: 111 dB
Woofer: 15" woofer, 4" voice coil
Nominal Impedance: 8 Ω
Input Power Rating: 800 W AES
Sensitivity: 99 dB
Input Section
Input connector: Speakon NL4
Output connector: Speakon NL4
djdisbjohn 9:56 PM - 17 January, 2014
whoops..that is the passive version
djdisbjohn 9:57 PM - 17 January, 2014
Ouch..the active is about 2700
Joee 9:58 PM - 17 January, 2014
try $3,700
www.kpodj.com
djdisbjohn 10:00 PM - 17 January, 2014
if you have account and sign up for vip tehre... price is 2700 ;)
Joee 10:03 PM - 17 January, 2014
o ok i wasent singed in
djdisbjohn 10:08 PM - 17 January, 2014
oh btw..my RCF HD32A's should be here early next week. So for tops I will have RCF HD10A's, HD32A's, and the ZXA5's.

The tops I've had over the years and have sold off.. The JBL EON 15 G1's, Mackie SRM450 original italian ones, QSC K10s, K12's, JBL PRX615's
DJ GaFFle 10:13 PM - 17 January, 2014
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The RCF TT25A is a possible contender, but it can be had for around $1700...

$1700... where? I think you're mistaken or you're talking about the passive version at that price.
DJ GaFFle 10:14 PM - 17 January, 2014
My bad... you caught it.
Joee 10:17 PM - 17 January, 2014
Quote:
oh btw..my RCF HD32A's should be here early next week. So for tops I will have RCF HD10A's, HD32A's, and the ZXA5's.

The tops I've had over the years and have sold off.. The JBL EON 15 G1's, Mackie SRM450 original italian ones, QSC K10s, K12's, JBL PRX615's

please post a review/comparison of the zxa5 vs the hd32-a……i'v had my eye on the hd32-a for a minute
DJ GaFFle 10:20 PM - 17 January, 2014
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The RCF TT25A is a possible contender, but it can be had for around $1700

The replacement for that is the RCFTT5-A. It's HF driver has a 4" voice coil and so does the LF driver.
djdisbjohn 10:22 PM - 17 January, 2014
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oh btw..my RCF HD32A's should be here early next week. So for tops I will have RCF HD10A's, HD32A's, and the ZXA5's.

The tops I've had over the years and have sold off.. The JBL EON 15 G1's, Mackie SRM450 original italian ones, QSC K10s, K12's, JBL PRX615's

please post a review/comparison of the zxa5 vs the hd32-a……i'v had my eye on the hd32-a for a minute


Will try to do a review.. setting up the speakers outdoors or in a large room. I will see if I can borrow my friend's RTA as well.
Joee 10:23 PM - 17 January, 2014
^ thank you sir
djdisbjohn 10:23 PM - 17 January, 2014
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oh btw..my RCF HD32A's should be here early next week. So for tops I will have RCF HD10A's, HD32A's, and the ZXA5's.

The tops I've had over the years and have sold off.. The JBL EON 15 G1's, Mackie SRM450 original italian ones, QSC K10s, K12's, JBL PRX615's

please post a review/comparison of the zxa5 vs the hd32-a……i'v had my eye on the hd32-a for a minute


Will try to do a review.. setting up the speakers outdoors or in a large room. I will see if I can borrow my friend's RTA as well.


I mean spectrum analyzer
djdisbjohn 10:24 PM - 17 January, 2014
www.electrovoice.com
DjCity 10:26 PM - 17 January, 2014
Can you properly tune yorkvilles and zxa5's outdoors using the driverack px?
djdisbjohn 10:27 PM - 17 January, 2014
it's really best to tune in the room you will be setting up in
Joee 10:28 PM - 17 January, 2014
also let me know what you think of bass response IE would you feel comfortable doing a event stand alone 32a's only no sub

thanks ;)

Quote:
www.electrovoice.com

i checked them already….they had a lot more pics up earlier this mooring also had a press release …..they took it down
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:06 AM - 18 January, 2014
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it's really best to tune in the room you will be setting up in


This.
DjCity 12:11 AM - 18 January, 2014
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it's really best to tune in the room you will be setting up in


This.


I agree.
My only issue with this is that I often have customers already in the building before I set up to play.

LOUD pink noise is irritating as hell to anyone not knowing what the hell it is.
For that matter, it's irritating as hell regardless.

I don't see how I could tune it at the show because of the customers in the building.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:15 AM - 18 January, 2014
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I don't see how I could tune it at the show because of the customers in the building.


You need to get there MAD EARLY, and / or warn them that you'll be doing a soundcheck and its gonna sound like someone disconnected their cable TV for a while....
DjCity 12:17 AM - 18 January, 2014
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I don't see how I could tune it at the show because of the customers in the building.


You need to get there MAD EARLY, and / or warn them that you'll be doing a soundcheck and its gonna sound like someone disconnected their cable TV for a while....


LLS!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:17 AM - 18 January, 2014
??
DjCity 12:18 AM - 18 January, 2014
OR....

I can find another way/place to tune the system up.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:21 AM - 18 January, 2014
You're not seizing the opportunity for more business.

Don't you know we used to do Pink Noise sound checks in front of EVERYBODY?

Why?

Because it made us look professional as HELL!

"What is he doing with that mic in the middle of the floor?"

"Oh wow! He must be measuring sound waves and whatnot" That's cool!

"Man, he sure is a professional, it sure LOOKS like he knows exactly what he's doing"...

Besides, those checks didn't take long...just have to have the right people at the controls.
DjCity 12:32 AM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
You're not seizing the opportunity for more business.

Don't you know we used to do Pink Noise sound checks in front of EVERYBODY?



Ummmm...
NO!

Back in the day and present day I did not and would not do a pink noise sound check in front of customers.

I would do it with club staff in the building but NOT customers.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:14 AM - 18 January, 2014
I didn't care about running the sound check in front of "Staff", that's what I meant by "Everybody"...

That's why I said get there "Mad Early".
DjCity 1:17 AM - 18 January, 2014
I'm not playing your game Johnny...
I will let Joee play with you.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:21 AM - 18 January, 2014
No games here.
DjCity 2:06 AM - 18 January, 2014
What you said is

Quote:
Don't you know we used to do Pink Noise sound checks in front of EVERYBODY?
Why?
Because it made us look professional as HELL!
"What is he doing with that mic in the middle of the floor?"
"Oh wow! He must be measuring sound waves and whatnot" That's cool!
"Man, he sure is a professional, it sure LOOKS like he knows exactly what he's doing"...


Then you say
Quote:
I didn't care about running the sound check in front of "Staff", that's what I meant by "Everybody"...

That's why I said get there "Mad Early".


THEN you say
Quote:
No games here.


Ok Johnny

1. You are nowhere near as good a lawyer as was stated earlier in this thread.
2. To me... The above statements constitutes game playing
3. I'm done arguing , debating, pointing out facts, playing games.

I'm trying to enjoy a rare Friday night off.

We still cool tho. I'm just not playing your game anymore.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:37 AM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
1. You are nowhere near as good a lawyer as was stated earlier in this thread.


Ok, I didn't realize I was on the stand, but Ok....

Quote:
2. To me... The above statements constitutes game playing


Then you have a basic misunderstanding of the English language..but OK.

Quote:
3. I'm done arguing , debating, pointing out facts, playing games.


You said that before, but still keep coming back "Playing Games"...

So, I'm sure you'll be back....

Quote:
We still cool tho. I'm just not playing your game anymore.


What is with this "We cool" disclaimer? lmao....

I ain't gonna permanently ban y'all from the Internet....

Yet....
Joee 2:09 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:


What is with this "We cool" disclaimer? lmao....




my ZXA5 amp module is cooler …..it has a fan ziiiing …….
imageshack.com
DjCity 2:54 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
I'm done arguing , debating, pointing out facts, playing games.


Quote:
You said that before, but still keep coming back "Playing Games"...

So, I'm sure you'll be back....[/quote}

Quote:
We still cool tho. I'm just not playing your game anymore.


Quote:
What is with this "We cool" disclaimer? lmao....


Good way to bet me back into the conversation for the time being.

"We cool" means I have no beef with you.

Tell you what.
I'm gonna go ahead and accept that when you said...
Quote:
Don't you know we used to do Pink Noise sound checks in front of EVERYBODY?


you REALLY meant...
Quote:
I didn't care about running the sound check in front of "Staff", that's what I meant by "Everybody"...


I'm just gonna rock my MBP, Yorkvills, EV ZXA5's, and Driverack and make it happen.
You keep rocking whatever is working for you.
DjCity 2:58 PM - 18 January, 2014
One thing i will give you...

You are better at quotes than I am.
DjCity 3:05 PM - 18 January, 2014
I am going to a partners house to tune my system in his large garage.

It won't be perfect but I can tweak it out at the show. I just need a general baseline for the Driverack PX.

Anyone have any advice or anything I need to be aware of with the driverack PX? It's different than the PA in it has no power button and does not seem to have the presets that the PA has like Rock Venue, DJ Smiley Face and so on.

Is there a preset on the PX I can start with? If so, which one for the Yorkvills and the ZXA5's?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:56 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
I'm just gonna rock my MBP, Yorkvills, EV ZXA5's, and Driverack and make it happen.
You keep rocking whatever is working for you.


This wasn't a discussion about equipment...

Oh wait...

It was...

And thank you, however, I don't need to do the pink noise thing anymore, I've considerably downgraded...

But I AM very impressed with the equipment line up you have.

Nice work.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:57 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
One thing i will give you...

You are better at quotes than I am.


I think AKIEM may have me beat, but I digress...
DjCity 7:32 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:


But I AM very impressed with the equipment line up you have.

Nice work.


Thank you.

I been at this for some time.
I really need to sell some of this gear.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:47 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
But I AM very impressed with the equipment line up you have.

Nice work.


Thank you.

I been at this for some time.

I really need to sell some of this gear.


I know a salesman....
Joee 8:25 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
But I AM very impressed with the equipment line up you have.

Nice work.


Thank you.

I been at this for some time.

I really need to sell some of this gear.


I know a salesman....

not always a bad thing tho……point in example…..i bought some 62's at $1,600 but sold some of them for $1,800…..

not everyone has a hook up! a lot of people actually pay retail….so they were happy as they felt they got a deal $200 off


salesman…...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:31 PM - 18 January, 2014
Hey, take that Salesman thing and cash in.

I ain't mad.
Joee 9:28 PM - 18 January, 2014
Quote:
Hey, take that Salesman thing and cash in.

I ain't mad.

hey, I (see what i did there) will sell you some uplighting…...
Dj Nyce 3:57 PM - 19 January, 2014
so i did a gig yesterday with a band. the band had (2) yorkville ls2100p's, (2) ls801p's, (2) qsc kw152's and (2) kw153's.

i had my (2) ev zxa5's.

so with the the 152's and the 153's where struggling to keep up the zxa5's. when they turned off the 2100p's, you couldn't even tell that the 801p's where one.

i will say this tho, those 2100p's...beasting.
Dj Nyce 3:58 PM - 19 January, 2014
horrible spelling. were on. sheesh.
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:21 PM - 19 January, 2014
Huh? I didn't understand any of that! Lol
Joee 6:27 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:
Huh? I didn't understand any of that! Lol

in short, i think he saying he used the zxa5's yesterday and they kicked @ss/rocked the house better than the bands pa?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:33 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:
Huh? I didn't understand any of that! Lol


He meant to say
Quote:


so with the the 152's and the 153's where struggling to keep up the zxa5's.

when they turned off the 2100p's, you couldn't even tell that the 801p's where on.
Dj Nyce 7:10 PM - 19 January, 2014
i didn't have my coffee this morning. but yes...zxa5's fucking rock.
Joee 7:13 PM - 19 January, 2014
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i didn't have my coffee this morning. but yes...zxa5's fucking rockedOUT.


fixed
ancientyouth 7:32 PM - 19 January, 2014
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No EQ...

What
Da
Fugg...


+1
and heres a list of 3 things any soundsystem should have
#1
IMO a 32 band eq is ESSENTIAL. if you dont have one, u are seriously lacking a very important tool. (Not to make your speakers sound better, but to control how the environment reacts to the soundwaves (resonance of wood, building, etc.))
Speakers may sound great out of the box in your living room but in a huge steel building they will sound different.
I use a Square one Eq
#2
A speaker management processor
(Like a dbx driverack, however i use a high end unit)
i prefer a xilica 4080 (4 IN 8 OUT) this sets the frequency , delays , etc. (If you use a folded horn sub ie Yorkville ls801,the bass that goes through the horn comes out a split second late (prob .03 seconds) so you need to delay the tops to match that.

#3
A drawmer sp-2120

www.drawmer.com

This is probably the best defense against blowing speakers. Very simple. just set it, lock it ,hide the key.
the_black_one 7:38 PM - 19 January, 2014
Give it a rest and watch foot ball!!!!!

Nm nh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:43 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
No EQ...



What

Da

Fugg...




+1

and heres a list of 3 things any soundsystem should have

#1

IMO a 32 band eq is ESSENTIAL. if you dont have one, u are seriously lacking a very important tool. (Not to make your speakers sound better, but to control how the environment reacts to the soundwaves (resonance of wood, building, etc.))

Speakers may sound great out of the box in your living room but in a huge steel building they will sound different.

I use a Square one Eq

#2

A speaker management processor

(Like a dbx driverack, however i use a high end unit)

i prefer a xilica 4080 (4 IN 8 OUT) this sets the frequency , delays , etc. (If you use a folded horn sub ie Yorkville ls801,the bass that goes through the horn comes out a split second late (prob .03 seconds) so you need to delay the tops to match that.



#3

A drawmer sp-2120



www.drawmer.com



This is probably the best defense against blowing speakers. Very simple. just set it, lock it ,hide the key.


That drawmer is the bizznizz!

Never saw that before...

GREAT post....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:50 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:
#2
A speaker management processor
(Like a dbx driverack, however i use a high end unit)
i prefer a xilica 4080 (4 IN 8 OUT) this sets the frequency , delays , etc. (If you use a folded horn sub ie Yorkville ls801,the bass that goes through the horn comes out a split second late (prob .03 seconds) so you need to delay the tops to match that.


Used the Rane AC23 with the "Delay" features to align everything...
Joee 7:55 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
#2
A speaker management processor
(Like a dbx driverack, however i use a high end unit)
i prefer a xilica 4080 (4 IN 8 OUT) this sets the frequency , delays , etc. (If you use a folded horn sub ie Yorkville ls801,the bass that goes through the horn comes out a split second late (prob .03 seconds) so you need to delay the tops to match that.


Used the Rane AC23 with the "Delay" features to align everything...

i had one of those too…..i sold it…… ;)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:57 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:

i had one of those too…..i sold it…… ;)


Of course you did....
Joee 7:59 PM - 19 January, 2014
^ football time i'm out…..NE vs D is going to be one hell of a game

PEACE!!!!!!!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:00 PM - 19 January, 2014
Enjoy...

I understand that you get specialized Handicapped seating too!

You Go Granpa!
DjCity 8:02 PM - 19 January, 2014
I liked this thread till it got totally derailed.

Any chance these two will simply agree to disagree and move on?
Joee 10:30 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:
I liked this thread till it got totally derailed.

Any chance these two will simply agree to disagree and move on?

i'm wit that i'll contribute to get this tread back on track, can all zxa5 owners post pics of them


i'l start buy posting internal pics of the box since i took mine apart


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disclaimer……look away NOW if your squeamish

imageshack.com

most of you have already seen these but i'm sure there is a few that haven't
Dj Nyce 10:38 PM - 19 January, 2014
here are the speakers my ev's ate for breakfast...
www.flickr.com
Joee 10:42 PM - 19 January, 2014
^ so your gonna tell me that two little itty bitty ev zxa5's out preformed all of those speakers…….


no way…… ;)

did those belong to the band? if so i know they were looking at your like what the Fu@K is that guy using


I've had band guys latterly inspecting my zxa5's to see what kind of speaker they were….lol
Dj Nyce 11:57 PM - 19 January, 2014
Quote:
^ so your gonna tell me that two little itty bitty ev zxa5's out preformed all of those speakers…….


no way…… ;)

did those belong to the band? if so i know they were looking at your like what the Fu@K is that guy using


I've had band guys latterly inspecting my zxa5's to see what kind of speaker they were….lol


yes, but not all at the same time.

the ev's basically beat the kw152 and kw153. with 2 ls801p's, you couldn't even tell that they were on.

of course with both sets of kw152, kw153, ls801p and ls2100p on, they murdered the ev's.
Dj Nyce 11:59 PM - 19 January, 2014
and not to take anything away from qsc, the kw152 is good sounding speaker. but at that soundcheck, it would appear (without using any measuring devices) that you would need (2) kw152 to match (1) zxa5.
Joee 12:04 AM - 20 January, 2014
the zxa5…..is truly a wonder for it's size/weight, but that again i don't need to tell you that you own them

on the ev note i can't wait to hear these --> www.electrovoice.com


the 3 way box along with the 18 sub might be a killer system
DjCity 12:23 AM - 20 January, 2014
I'm curious about the new EV line but after just buying 2 zxa5's and 2 ls801pb's, I don't have me buying even more speakers right now.
DjCity 12:33 AM - 20 January, 2014
If the new EV'S are better than the zxa5's, (which I doubt) I'm gonna be pissed!

The sub looks nice though but that may be because I'm used to the kw181's.
Joee 12:41 AM - 20 January, 2014
there not going to be better…..more along the lines of competing with the jbl prx700/qsc kw
pdidy 1:08 AM - 20 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
^ so your gonna tell me that two little itty bitty ev zxa5's out preformed all of those speakers…….


no way…… ;)

did those belong to the band? if so i know they were looking at your like what the Fu@K is that guy using


I've had band guys latterly inspecting my zxa5's to see what kind of speaker they were….lol


yes, but not all at the same time.

the ev's basically beat the kw152 and kw153. with 2 ls801p's, you couldn't even tell that they were on.

of course with both sets of kw152, kw153, ls801p and ls2100p on, they murdered the ev's.

this seems to be an odd setup if I understand it correctly. Is the band running 2 different tops and 2 different subs at the same time in the same location ?
pdidy 1:10 AM - 20 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
^ so your gonna tell me that two little itty bitty ev zxa5's out preformed all of those speakers…….


no way…… ;)

did those belong to the band? if so i know they were looking at your like what the Fu@K is that guy using


I've had band guys latterly inspecting my zxa5's to see what kind of speaker they were….lol


yes, but not all at the same time.

the ev's basically beat the kw152 and kw153. with 2 ls801p's, you couldn't even tell that they were on.

of course with both sets of kw152, kw153, ls801p and ls2100p on, they murdered the ev's.

this seems to be an odd setup if I understand it correctly. Is the band running 2 different tops and 2 different subs at the same time in the same location ?

aaaah shit , never mind I just saw the crazy picture.....lol www.flickr.com
Joee 1:17 AM - 20 January, 2014
^ what you talkin that a real pro number one setup type of job there…… you see all those wires….thats how it should be done according to some people on the forum
Dj Nyce 1:35 AM - 20 January, 2014
Quote:
^ what you talkin that a real pro number one setup type of job there…… you see all those wires….thats how it should be done according to some people on the forum


they had a nice setup. all the band instruments and mics went to a 48 channel snake, then to a console foh. the console back to the speaker array. i give the roadies mad props, it was wired nice and tight.

when all the speakers were on. lawdhavemercy
DjCity 1:40 AM - 20 January, 2014
Nyce...

You in DC?
DjCity 1:40 AM - 20 January, 2014
Nyce...

You in DC?
DJ GaFFle 1:41 AM - 20 January, 2014
^^^ I know how that double post just happened to you... the Serato website was frozen for a minute.
Dj Nyce 2:03 AM - 20 January, 2014
yeah i'm slumming it in dc now.
DjCity 2:06 AM - 20 January, 2014
@GaFFLe

That's exactly how I double posted.

@Nyce
Cool.
I thought you were in NYC.
Weird ass market in the DMV huh? It ain't like home but you can make a living down here spinnin'.
djdisbjohn 6:49 AM - 20 January, 2014
I worked with a band for a wedding last month.. They used Yorkville's sister company VTC 21" subs.. I was really impressed. They ran 2 of those with 4 of the Mackie HD CC array tops all ran by a behringer x32 board. I had brought my EV tops, and a pair of VRX subs, but we just ended up using the band's system because of room size constraints. Here's a couple of photos I took.

P.S.
I love venue's that allow haze.

scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net

fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net
pdidy 8:45 AM - 20 January, 2014
my educated assumption is the bands system was a bit better, not to mention 2 x the price of yours....;)
Mackie HDA tops Watchwww.youtube.com

vtc sub www.vtcproaudio.com
DjCity 4:12 PM - 21 January, 2014
Question.

I have my system tuned with the driverack px (pain in the ass to do).
It sounds real good but I would like to add a sonic maximizer to it.

Any advice on this? I want the ability to shape the sound of needed.

I am looking for one that has sub outs. I want to be able to shape highs and lows separately.

I know of bbe sonic maximizer, aphex aural exciter, and peavey kosmos.

Anyone know if any of these will do what I'm looking for as far as being able to shape the highs SEPARATE from the bass?

Is there another product I should be looking for?
DjCity 4:12 PM - 21 January, 2014
Question.

I have my system tuned with the driverack px (pain in the ass to do).
It sounds real good but I would like to add a sonic maximizer to it.

Any advice on this? I want the ability to shape the sound of needed.

I am looking for one that has sub outs. I want to be able to shape highs and lows separately.

I know of bbe sonic maximizer, aphex aural exciter, and peavey kosmos.

Anyone know if any of these will do what I'm looking for as far as being able to shape the highs SEPARATE from the bass?

Is there another product I should be looking for?
DJ Val-BKNY11203 4:18 PM - 21 January, 2014
Some people swear by the Sonic Maximizer and some hate it. My thoughts is you have the right piece of equipment already. You do not not too much more in your signal chain.
ancientyouth 4:30 PM - 21 January, 2014
Sonic Shitifier- I believe this is the technical name in The pro audio community. 32 band eq and a good pair of ears is all you need ...
DJ GaFFle 4:33 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
Question.

I have my system tuned with the driverack px (pain in the ass to do).
It sounds real good but I would like to add a sonic maximizer to it.

Any advice on this?

My advice is to forget it. You're gonna run out of headroom quick using one of those with today's music. You'll start seeing thermal shutdowns where you didn't have them before and eventually end up selling it. They can make cheap systems sound more special but the cons aren't worth it IMO.

(nm)
the_black_one 5:00 PM - 21 January, 2014
Agree with the eq comment ...


Nm nh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:23 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
but I would like to add a sonic maximizer to it.


In REAL REAL LIFE?

Don't use it...

For real LOW sounding applications, it's cool for additional bass manipulation...

I use mine for the pretty lights....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:23 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
They can make cheap systems sound more special but the cons aren't worth it IMO.

(nm)


^^^^This all day^^^^
Joee 6:39 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:

[quote

I use mine for the pretty lights....

you sir are contradicting your self…..you said and i quote "i don't bring NO lights" in the uplighting debate
DjCity 6:47 PM - 21 January, 2014
He meant the lights on the unit itself.

PLEEEEEASE don't start another epic debate.
Lol.
DjCity 6:50 PM - 21 January, 2014
Actually, I have used the aphex in the past and liked what it does.

It really does not boost the signal but enhance it.

I don't like the sonic maximizer that much as it boosts the signal.
Joee 6:52 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
He meant the lights on the unit itself.

PLEEEEEASE don't start another epic debate.
Lol.

hey lights are lights
djdisbjohn 7:42 PM - 21 January, 2014
Can't wait to test these out
instagram.com
Joee 7:43 PM - 21 January, 2014
^ i can't wait to hear your review…..it just might be the deciding factor for me to get a pair

1.is the horn too aggressive?
2.how's the bass when played in full range?
Joee 7:45 PM - 21 January, 2014
3.what's the sol like, anything close to the zxa5?
Joee 7:45 PM - 21 January, 2014
sol=SPL
Rebelguy 8:53 PM - 21 January, 2014
Well since theHD 32-As are only rated at 131db I am sure they would get blown out by the ZXA5s. I would take sound quality over higher db. I am curious how they compare.
pdidy 8:55 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
I have my system tuned with the driverack px (pain in the ass to do).
It sounds real good but I would like to add a sonic maximizer to it.

I have one and they sound nice but they are very dangerous which s why most professional sound guys dont use them. They typically call them a glorified EQ. As gaffle said, it will destroy your headroom while its burning up hi frequency drivers and over excursion of subs. Blown speakers everywhere.....

That being said, if the system is playing at a low level say 40% of max you "should" be safe but lets be honest.....Nobody does that...lol

I like to use mine when im playing at a low level at the beginning of a party on my subs just to see that look on other djs faces when it drops superdupper ridiculous lows......Priceless
Joee 9:07 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
Well since theHD 32-As are only rated at 131db I am sure they would get blown out by the ZXA5s. I would take sound quality over higher db. I am curious how they compare.

you read to many numbers…. your starting to sound like johhny
this speaker is 136db….so it should blow the zxa5 out the water right
www.jblpro.com


well it doesn't ……i'll let real world use dictate it's performance not spec sheet numbers
djdisbjohn 9:19 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
Well since theHD 32-As are only rated at 131db I am sure they would get blown out by the ZXA5s. I would take sound quality over higher db. I am curious how they compare.


Yeah, I've given up on all the marketing hype of calculated SPL and Wattage. What's more important is the sensitivity of the speaker. At least RCF provides you alot of info in their spec sheet including plots and graphs.

www.rcf.it


I'm sure the ZXA5 will probably have more headroom and be a better stand alone speaker since it is a 15" top vs a 12" top.

If the bass output of the HD32A is similar to a K12 in deep mode, then that should be more than sufficient for smaller events.

Probably 80% of the time I will run these tops with my JBL subs, so my main goal is to have a top with good mid range and clarity and be able to be thrown longer distances.

I will try to be a subjective as possible when I do the review and will record using a sony camcorder and a zoom h1 digital recorder.

If time allows I will do testing outside as well as inside a venue.
Joee 9:28 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
so my main goal is to have a top with good mid range and clarity and be able to be thrown longer distances.


no doubt you got what you wanted there check box for all the above
DJ GaFFle 9:38 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
...That being said, if the system is playing at a low level say 40% of max you "should" be safe but lets be honest.....Nobody does that...lol

I like to use mine when im playing at a low level at the beginning of a party on my subs just to see that look on other djs faces when it drops superdupper ridiculous lows......Priceless

This is very much on point. When I had the Sonic Maximizer, I was running QSC HPR 12's and 18 subs. When I played at lower volumes with the SM on, it sounded lovely and sort of better than what I could achieve using a 32-band EQ. When I needed to turn the volume up, I would back off of the levels on the SM but I still experienced several thermal shutdowns on the subs on different occasions. The HPR's weren't known for thermal'ing so I eventually took the SM out of the chain and didn't have a shutdown since.

FYI... even when I backed off the SM levels, I found my subs would peak way too early at the higher volumes. When I'd back it down to a suitable headroom-gain point, it would just negate even using it at all. Can't get right...

(nm)
Al Poulin 10:46 PM - 21 January, 2014
Most sonic maximizer type processors are extremely taxing on speakers and subs, increasing woofer excursion demands noticeably all the while reducing overall headroom and ultimately speaker life if not used in moderation. In the wrong hands, these toys are very dangerous to speakers and sounds systems IMO. No sir, I don't like them. I'm sure they sound good at low volumes however, giving our ears more of what they don't hear so well at low volumes (lows and highs).

Al
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:03 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
[quote

I use mine for the pretty lights....


you sir are contradicting your self…..you said and i quote "i don't bring NO lights" in the uplighting debate


How Ironic...

Gee...what do we have here?

A "Double Negative"?

Don't bring NO.....

You can't even write a sentence fragment without contradicting yourself...LMAO...

But yeah, those lights were to make my rack blink all extra pretty, and.....














LET me know if my "Boy" was about to wreck my speakers...... :-X
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:03 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
He meant the lights on the unit itself.

PLEEEEEASE don't start another epic debate.

Lol.


That debate was FARRRRR from epic...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:06 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
you read to many numbers…. your starting to sound like johhny


Don't be mad because he knows how to READ.....lol....

Cats mentioning me in erry post nowadays..

Pleaze Continue.... :-)
Joee 11:11 PM - 21 January, 2014
I'm not mad……..now if i was using speakers from 1990 i would be pissed

speakers are not fine wine they don't improve with age
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:15 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
I'm not mad……..now if i was using speakers from 1990 i would be pissed

speakers are not fine wine they don't improve with age


No disrespect Granpa.
Joee 11:18 PM - 21 January, 2014
man im
imfromcleveland.com

it is kind of sad thou that your speakers are 24 year old

"speakers are not fine wine they don't improve with age"
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:21 PM - 21 January, 2014
Quote:
it is kind of sad thou that you r are 240 years old


Fixed..
Joee 11:26 PM - 21 January, 2014
^ LMAO
hypetrak.com
Joee 11:28 PM - 21 January, 2014
www.windowsvistahelpnow.com
already damn…..
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:29 PM - 21 January, 2014
Anything you say Grampa...
Joee 11:35 PM - 21 January, 2014
yo $250 will get you one more & it has the manual i know how much you like manuals
www.ebay.com
Joee 11:36 PM - 21 January, 2014
^ you better hope on that son it will last you another 20 years
Joee 11:37 PM - 21 January, 2014
^ be honest are you the one watching that speaker? cause it has one watcher
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:42 PM - 21 January, 2014
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^ you better hope on that son it will last you another 20 years


This is true...

But we both know...

You may not make it that long....
Joee 11:45 PM - 21 January, 2014
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^ LMAO
hypetrak.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:46 PM - 21 January, 2014
Hey, I'm kinda jealous that you get to park all up in the front....

Those Handicap lanes come in handy...huh?
Joee 11:53 PM - 21 January, 2014
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Hey, I'm kinda jealous that you get to park all up in the front....

Those Handicap lanes come in handy...huh?

you should be…..people look at me like I'm crazy parking in handicap spot carrying all my gear in + 70lbs subs


it's a beautiful thing my dude i park right next to the entrance every gig
Joee 11:54 PM - 21 January, 2014
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Hey, I'm kinda jealous that you get to park all up in the front....

Those Handicap lanes come in handy...huh?

but for real thou
Quote:
^ LMAO
hypetrak.com
Joee 12:00 AM - 22 January, 2014
www.shutterstock.com

keep saving you'll get them ZXA5's
pdidy 12:19 AM - 22 January, 2014
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He meant the lights on the unit itself.

PLEEEEEASE don't start another epic debate.

Lol.


That debate was FARRRRR from epic...

Thats an understatement....

If you're going to derail a thread, it should at least be funny or ENTERTAINING in some way.
Unfortunately this spat has failed at that since day 1.

At this point its more like an uncomfortable embarrassment that just wont end.

Hell, im even a lil embarrassed for you guys but I don't know why....

At this point all I hear is Charlie Brown's mother.
Joee 12:24 AM - 22 January, 2014
^ what?

i'm still talking about the zxa5! see……..lol

Quote:
www.shutterstock.com

keep saving you'll get them ZXA5's
Joee 12:30 AM - 22 January, 2014
@ pdiddy you see how many times i've tried to get this thread back on track buy posting pics of a zxa5 in russia saying russia knows what time it is ,saying owners post pics of the zxa5's etc.

problem here is DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 is like a pregnant woman always arguing bitching and complaining ……wanting attention
Rebelguy 1:10 AM - 22 January, 2014
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man im
imfromcleveland.com

it is kind of sad thou that your speakers are 24 year old

"speakers are not fine wine they don't improve with age"


I know people using 20 + year old Meyer UPAs and they still sound pretty damn good.
Joee 1:24 AM - 22 January, 2014
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man im
imfromcleveland.com

it is kind of sad thou that your speakers are 24 year old

"speakers are not fine wine they don't improve with age"


I know people using 20 + year old Meyer UPAs and they still sound pretty damn good.

did you really just compare meyer to cerwin vega?
wifflegif.com
Rebelguy 1:51 AM - 22 January, 2014
Do you ever think about previous things you have written before spouting off stupid responses?
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:52 AM - 22 January, 2014
Joee...don't play victim. You came at him off off the lights nonsense.

It really is getting old already.
Joee 1:55 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Do you ever think about previous things you have written before spouting off stupid responses?

i was talking about 20+ year old cerwin vegas and you telling me 20 year old meyers sound pretty good


if you offer me a 20 year old rolls royce or a 2014 kia……i'll take the rolls royce……
Rebelguy 1:55 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee...don't play victim. You came at him off off the lights nonsense.

It really is getting old already.


Exactly. Where in my comment did I compare Meyer and Corwin Vega. I was responding to the statement "speakers are not fine wine they don't improve with age"
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:57 AM - 22 January, 2014
Joee...we get that you are a gear whore and can spend loot at will.

If you take a step back, can you see who is really winning? Johnny. His ROI is through the roof. Everything he has been making of the 20 years since he bought those CV speakers is pure profit. While you dip into your profit margin by buying more gear.

Everybody does't need each brand new shiny toy that come out. It's really not worth it. Unless you are buying some concert grade or audiophile stuff is all depreciates very quickly. As long as what you have works for you that's all that matters.
Joee 2:00 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee...don't play victim. You came at him off off the lights nonsense.

It really is getting old already.


Exactly. Where in my comment did I compare Meyer and Corwin Vega. I was responding to the statement "speakers are not fine wine they don't improve with age"

those 20 year old speakers i was talking about are cerwin vegas
Joee 2:11 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee...we get that you are a gear whore and can spend loot at will.

If you take a step back, can you see who is really winning? Johnny. His ROI is through the roof. Everything he has been making of the 20 years since he bought those CV speakers is pure profit. While you dip into your profit margin by buying more gear.

Everybody does't need each brand new shiny toy that come out. It's really not worth it. Unless you are buying some concert grade or audiophile stuff is all depreciates very quickly. As long as what you have works for you that's all that matters.

all my gear has paid for it self some 20 time over some 100 times over ……with the exception of the latest speakers i got …….


so i don't see it that way……everything i make is profit…..i like shinny new things …….


this hole thing got started buy johnny saying i don't know how to use my gear…….the fact that i use it the way i do (no signal processing) is to make my life easier period……

clearly i'm using it the right way….cause i keep buying more of it


but if you say it getting old…i'll tell you what…..i'll be the bigger man…..apologies and keep it moving ……..any further words you here from me in this thread will be to talk about the zxa5…..

cool?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:39 AM - 22 January, 2014
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……wanting attention


****snicker****

Yet, the ONLY reason this goes on and on is because you'll somehow reference me, and we're off!!!!

No problem son, I'm used to it....

I know I hurt your feelings by exposing how you really don't know shit, except how to post the same pics over and over...

Richie Rich in the building...

But we cool tho....lmao.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:39 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Do you ever think about previous things you have written before spouting off stupid responses?


lmao....DON'T TELL HIM NUFFIN....lol...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:40 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee...don't play victim. You came at him off off the lights nonsense.

It really is getting old already.


STOPPPPP!!!

DO NOT HELP HIM....lol...

He gets what he deserves.... :-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:42 AM - 22 January, 2014
Quote:
Joee...we get that you are a gear whore and can spend loot at will.

If you take a step back, can you see who is really winning? Johnny. His ROI is through the roof. Everything he has been making of the 20 years since he bought those CV speakers is pure profit. While you dip into your profit margin by buying more gear.

Everybody does't need each brand new shiny toy that come out. It's really not worth it. Unless you are buying some concert grade or audiophile stuff is all depreciates very quickly. As long as what you have works for you that's all that matters.


Awww man.....

I'm goin' home....

***takes ball out of sandbox****

www.djjohnnym.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:44 AM - 22 January, 2014
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this hole thing got started buy johnny saying i don't know how to use my gear…….the fact that i use it the way i do (no signal processing) is to make my life easier period……


smh....

Doesn't take away from the fact that YOU SHOULD HAVE SIGNAL PROCESSING IN YOUR AUDIO CHAIN....

Ask the experts....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:45 AM - 22 January, 2014
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any further words you here from me in this thread will be to talk about the zxa5


I'm sure you'll make SOME type of reference to me in the future..... :-)

But we cool tho...

I SWEAR I didn't mean to make you mad with the whole EQ thing....

You always had my back with the PANKS....

But sometimes, you have to tell it like it is....

I take PLENTY of good advice from people on this board.... :-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:46 AM - 22 January, 2014
Who know their sh*t...of course... :-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:47 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Unless you are buying some concert grade


And this is the point at which I was YEARS ago...

And it's lasted for me as such....
Joee 3:02 AM - 22 January, 2014
^ now now i told DJ Val-BKNY11203 i'd keep it about the zxa5…so lets get back to that….

i'll leave yours alone……..

at the end of the day you still cool in my book & i'll keep putting money in mines

cause the only real thing i know how to do it make it….even without a eq

i didn't mean to upset you buy using my ZXA5's without one
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:08 AM - 22 January, 2014
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i didn't mean to upset you buy using my ZXA5's without one


Eh, I'm never one to harp on anything for dayz...

Unless someone gives me something to "respond" to...

We cool tho... :-)
DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:20 AM - 22 January, 2014
Joee when the new EV's come out and you buy them. Can you sell me you ZXA5's?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:32 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee when the new EV's come out and you buy them. Can you sell me you ZXA5's?


It's been confirmed that those would surpass the ZXA5's?
DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:33 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee when the new EV's come out and you buy them. Can you sell me you ZXA5's?


It's been confirmed that those would surpass the ZXA5's?


No just messing with him.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:35 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee when the new EV's come out and you buy them. Can you sell me you ZXA5's?


It's been confirmed that those would surpass the ZXA5's?


No just messing with him.


[Comment removed to keep the peace]
MarkOfOdessy 4:56 AM - 22 January, 2014
ZLA5!
MarkOfOdessy 4:57 AM - 22 January, 2014
ZXA5!*
pdidy 7:28 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Can't wait to test these out
instagram.com

ok weres the review, im getting impatient. been looking at these for a minute now.
djdisbjohn 8:18 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Can't wait to test these out
instagram.com

ok weres the review, im getting impatient. been looking at these for a minute now.


it won't be until at least next week since i'll be out of town.
dj_soo 8:20 AM - 22 January, 2014
You guys need to get a room
Joee 10:15 AM - 22 January, 2014
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Joee when the new EV's come out and you buy them. Can you sell me you ZXA5's?

if the rcf hd32a's are any good we can talk…….lol

i honestly don't even use my zxa5'a anymore i been using my art 312a most gigs

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Can't wait to test these out
instagram.com

ok weres the review, im getting impatient. been looking at these for a minute now.

^ this

i hope the 3" horn isn't too aggressive or overpowering for the 12
Al Poulin 1:17 PM - 22 January, 2014
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i hope the 3" horn isn't too aggressive or overpowering for the 12



Being an RCF product, I'm pretty sure it won't be agressive at all BUT there's not a 12" woofer on earth that will keep up with a 3" VC HF driver used full range. Hi passed and used with subs covering the lower frequencies however (how it was meant to be used in order to take advantage of the HF driver's hi output), the 12" now becomes a powerful midrange in a 3 way system.

Al
Al Poulin 1:20 PM - 22 January, 2014
Thinking of this "interesting" thread this morning, I was reminded of this seinfeld moment :

Watchwww.youtube.com

Al :-)
Joee 1:29 PM - 22 January, 2014
^ LMAO……. GTFO al…………lol
Al Poulin 1:33 PM - 22 January, 2014
I was laughing in my car this morning while driving in to work, that's all I can say! :-)
Joee 1:35 PM - 22 January, 2014
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I was laughing in my car this morning while driving in to work, that's all I can say! :-)

tell pdidy that he said are derail wasn't funny…..at least someone thought so….if i in anyway helped to brighten someone day


put a smile on a fellow dj's face….it was all worth it……..lol

;)
DJ GaFFle 3:12 PM - 22 January, 2014
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Can't wait to test these out
instagram.com

ok weres the review, im getting impatient. been looking at these for a minute now.


it won't be until at least next week since i'll be out of town.

Man... you're the only person I've seen on the web that actually owns these; your review would be the first I've heard. This is your 15 minutes DJdisbjohn... don't blow it. :-)

(nm/nh)
Joee 3:18 PM - 22 January, 2014
^

SHHhhhh

don't make him nervous……..lol
djdisbjohn 4:54 PM - 22 January, 2014
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
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Can't wait to test these out
instagram.com

ok weres the review, im getting impatient. been looking at these for a minute now.


it won't be until at least next week since i'll be out of town.

Man... you're the only person I've seen on the web that actually owns these; your review would be the first I've heard. This is your 15 minutes DJdisbjohn... don't blow it. :-)

(nm/nh)


Lol no pressure gaffle. I'll try to so a review as good as you and al poulin do.

I hooked it up for a little bit last night in the living room. Ran it through a mackie mixer and with iPod. It was sitting on the floor.

Initial thoughts, Al's post is pretty spot on. The horn will outrun it once you turn it up.
There wasn't much difference when I switched from flat to boost. The sound was slightly deeper and fuller.

I will need to test it when it's on a speaker stand. The mids and highs are very clear and crisp. Really love the looks of this cabinet.
Joee 4:58 PM - 22 January, 2014
^ sounds like all i need is a hd12a……


******stays tuned for further details******
djdisbjohn 4:59 PM - 22 January, 2014
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^ sounds like all i need is a hd12a……


******stays tuned for further details******


If you like the art 312s, you will love these.
Joee 5:02 PM - 22 January, 2014
i do…..i have heard the fd12-a & the hd12-a love um…..
pdidy 5:37 PM - 22 January, 2014
Quote:
Thinking of this "interesting" thread this morning, I was reminded of this seinfeld moment :

Watchwww.youtube.com

Al :-)

ok thats funny
JDforKing 3:27 PM - 23 January, 2014
well the specs are up for the new ev line.... how does everyone think the etx 15p compares to the dsr115 and the zxa5?

www.electrovoice.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:35 PM - 23 January, 2014
Specs look great. Could be up there if not better than ZXA and DSR...wooden boxes are heavy though. 15" version is 70lbs. ZXA is 50lbs. No pricing anywhere either right?
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:37 PM - 23 January, 2014
Then again, the ELX series 15" says a max output of 134db. The ZXA5 says 133 and everyone knows in real world applications the ZXA has far more SPL.
JDforKing 3:40 PM - 23 January, 2014
Here is the pricing from a guy in another form that is an electro voice seller. I'm not sure if its MAP but this is what he posted.

10P - $ 1099
12P - $ 1199
15P - $ 1299
15SP - $ 1399
18SP - $ 1499
35P - $ 1499
djdisbjohn 3:41 PM - 23 January, 2014
The specs look good and they're actually measured values. One thing is the high frequency driver is only 1.25"

I think it is between the Yamaha and zxa5

Pricing is posted in nlfxpro.com
Joee 3:47 PM - 23 January, 2014
numbers would lead us to be leave that it can compete with the zxa5…..but i don't think it will


specs for the 15


40 Hz – 20 kHz
Maximum SPL 135 dB peak dB
Power Consumption 100 – 240 V~, 50 – 60 Hz, 1.6 – 0.8 A
Power Rating 2000 W
Frequency Response 48 Hz – 20 kHz
Coverage (Nominal -6 dB) H 90 °
Coverage (Nominal -6 dB) V 60 °
LF Transducer SMX2150 380 mm (15 in)
HF Transducer DH3-B 1.25-in titanium compression driver
Crossover Frequency 1500 Hz
Connector Type (2) XLR/TRS combo jack and (1) XLR link output
Enclosure Material 18-mm, 13-ply birch plywood with EVCoat
Grill 16AWG steel with powdercoat
Suspension (8) M10 suspension points
Height 691 mm (27.2")
Width 431 mm (16.97")
Depth 447 mm (17.6")
Weight Net 27.7 kg (61.07 lbs)
Shipping Weight 31.5 kg (69.45 lbs)
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:47 PM - 23 January, 2014
^^ agree. Price has to be MAP. Figured the 15" can probably be had for around $1000. Whereas you won't get a brand new ZXA for under $1300-$1400

Interesting on the bottom of the nlfxpro.com page it says

"Designed, engineered and tested for ultimate reliability by Electro-Voice in the USA."
Only thing it doesn't say is Manufactured. Is that to be implied but what is stated, or are they made overseas?
Joee 3:49 PM - 23 January, 2014
^ good points
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:54 PM - 23 January, 2014
The max SPL that is measured says with the LF filter on at 150hz. So it will scream when used with a subwoofer...curious what it would be at full range. Does anyone know if the ZXA5 has a note like that? Trying to download the manual but having trouble.
Joee 4:12 PM - 23 January, 2014
if you look at the back pick of the 18 sub zoom in…….it says engineered in germany & made in the usa….

dynocord quality
Certified Quality Entertainment 4:21 PM - 23 January, 2014
Yea, I tried doing that...couldn't get it!

Should I second guess my ZXA purchase that I made a month ago?????
Joee 4:23 PM - 23 January, 2014
^ hell no



the subs use DVX woofers….DVX is whats in the zxa5 and some of there concert line array stuff….maybe the a ev sub will finally have some serious bass?

the horns however are nothing impressive 1.25"
Joee 4:25 PM - 23 January, 2014
the DH3 driver is the same thing thats in the tour x box
www.electro-voice.com
Joee 4:26 PM - 23 January, 2014
a 20 watt horn, the zxa5 horn is twice the power
Joee 4:27 PM - 23 January, 2014
scratch that this is a new horn DH3/B
JDforKing 4:28 PM - 23 January, 2014
maybe this line has the sub you guys have been looking for to complement your zxa5. lol
Joee 4:31 PM - 23 January, 2014
but still heavier than the york….but easier to maneuver go figure…..lol
Joee 4:35 PM - 23 January, 2014
i'm posting to early….excitement….i was looking at shipping weight 129lbs, net weight 114lbs so lighter than the york


but something tells me it won't hit like the yorkvile you can't makeup for sheer size of a enclosure when it comes to bass no mater how much processing is engineered into the box
Dj Nyce 5:00 PM - 23 January, 2014
i counldn't be happier with the zxa5 purchase regardless of how this new line performs.

but the subs look interesting. can't wait to hear how they perform against the k1181, vrx and yorkies.
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:10 PM - 23 January, 2014
I think they will be better than the KW181, probably comparable to the VRX, but maybe slighting better given it has more weight.
I don't think it will come close to the yorks though. Like Joee said, strictly because of size.
Taipanic 6:40 PM - 23 January, 2014
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i counldn't be happier with the zxa5 purchase regardless of how this new line performs.

but the subs look interesting. can't wait to hear how they perform against the k1181, vrx and yorkies.


Also interested in the subs. If they are "almost" as loud as the Yorkvilles with better SQ, I will be interested, especially if they can be had in the $1200 range. Looking some more, I see they have a 135 db peak, vs 140 db peak for the Yorkies. Will have to do a A/B comparison for sure.
DJ GaFFle 9:26 PM - 23 January, 2014
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if you look at the back pick of the 18 sub zoom in…….it says engineered in germany & made in the usa….

dynocord quality

Which picture?
Joee 9:29 PM - 23 January, 2014
go to the new ev speaker thread i made click the pic and zoom in….it's clear as day
Joee 9:30 PM - 23 January, 2014
and it doesn't say dynocord quality thats me posing that question
DJ GaFFle 9:43 PM - 23 January, 2014
I found it: imageshack.com
Joee 9:46 PM - 23 January, 2014
was just about to post..lol

imageshack.com
DjCity 9:49 PM - 23 January, 2014
What interests me with the subs is that you can CHANGE the crossover point on the speaker itself.

That's some good shit because 100Hz sounds like ass to me.
Joee 9:55 PM - 23 January, 2014
the subs use DVX woofers ,the same woofer that in the zxa5….it might be a nice complementing sub….even if it can't keep up with the zxa5…..it might hang in there
Joee 10:00 PM - 23 January, 2014
found some specs on the dvx sub from a dual 18" that uses it


PX2181
High-Output Dual 18-inch Subwoofer

The PX2181 features a dual, horn-loaded, DVX3180 18-inch, low-frequency transducers with forced air cooling.

1,000-watt continuous (4,000-watt peak) power handling. High-efficiency, horn-loaded design. Dual and parallel mode selectable. Very high sensitivity - 141 dB maximum SPL. Integral mounting points on rear panel for optional wheel and caster kit. Enclosure is stackable in both horizontal and vertical orientations.


well we know it's a 500watt woofer, question now is how sensitive is it?
DJ GaFFle 10:42 PM - 23 January, 2014
If you find out the sensitivity rating, you'll be able to figure out how fluff-filled their SPL ratings are or not.

(nm)
Joee 10:44 PM - 23 January, 2014
^ i'm thinking it's a good box…..DVX woofers are in the zxa5 as well as some of the concert line arrays
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:31 PM - 24 January, 2014
I saw in another thread, can't find it now. Someone was talking to the EV guys and they said that this line is just below the ZXA line.
Rebelguy 3:38 PM - 24 January, 2014
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I saw in another thread, can't find it now. Someone was talking to the EV guys and they said that this line is just below the ZXA line.


That was me.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:53 PM - 24 January, 2014
Oh ok.
What did they say exactly? Does it compete with the ZXA close...or do the ZXA's still more of a Higher end? Curious as to their response exactly. Is this meant to somewhat phase out the ZXA line?
Joee 4:05 PM - 24 January, 2014
i'd say it doesn't compete….

the zxa line is almost non existent they only have 3 speakers zxa1 zxa1 sub & zxa5, this fill in all the missing spots……..2 subs a 3 way an 3 tops to chose


why did ev not ever make a zxa3? i would buy 4 of them
Joee 4:13 PM - 24 January, 2014
DJ GaFFle you called it upon further inspection it seems this is a powered Tour X box

TOUR X SPECS…..

Color Black
Input Connections Parallel Neutrik® NL4
Speaker Type Full-range
Frequency Response (-3 dB) 65 - 20000 Hz
Frequency Response (-10 dB) 45 - 20000 Hz
Internal Crossover Yes
Recommended High-Pass Frequency 40 Hz
Sensitivity 1 W/1 m 100 dB
Max. SPL/1m (calc) 133 dB
Coverage (Nominal -6 dB) H 60 °
Coverage (Nominal -6 dB) V 40 °
Rotatable Horn Yes
System Power Handling (Continuous/Program/Peak) 500//2000 Watts
LF Transducer 15-inch SMX2151
HF Transducer 1.25-inch DH3/2010A
Crossover Frequency 1750 Hz
Nominal Impedance (Passive) 8 Ω
Minimum Impedance 6.2 Ω
Enclosure Material Plywood and MDF with EVCOAT
Flying Yes
Suspension (6) 3/8-inch threaded inserts
Height 475 mm (18.7")
Width 439 mm (17.28")
Depth 655 mm (25.79")
Weight Net 27.6 kg (60.85 lbs)

ETX SPECS….

Frequency Range 40 Hz – 20 kHz
Maximum SPL 135 dB peak dB
Power Consumption 100 – 240 V~, 50 – 60 Hz, 1.6 – 0.8 A
Power Rating 2000 W
Frequency Response 48 Hz – 20 kHz
Coverage (Nominal -6 dB) H 90 °
Coverage (Nominal -6 dB) V 60 °
LF Transducer SMX2150 380 mm (15 in)
HF Transducer DH3-B 1.25-in titanium compression driver
Crossover Frequency 1500 Hz
Connector Type (2) XLR/TRS combo jack and (1) XLR link output
Enclosure Material 18-mm, 13-ply birch plywood with EVCoat
Grill 16AWG steel with powdercoat
Suspension (8) M10 suspension points
Height 691 mm (27.2")
Width 431 mm (16.97")
Depth 447 mm (17.6")
Weight Net 27.7 kg (61.07 lbs)
Shipping Weight 31.5 kg (69.45 lbs)


same woofer/horn drivers in both boxes, i'm thinking they mated the zxl & tour x tech
Rebelguy 5:56 PM - 24 January, 2014
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Oh ok.
What did they say exactly? Does it compete with the ZXA close...or do the ZXA's still more of a Higher end? Curious as to their response exactly. Is this meant to somewhat phase out the ZXA line?


He said they don't really compete because of the whole plastic vs wood cabinet design. He also said the ZXA5s had a better high frequency driver.

He said the ZXA line will still be around for awhile.
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:14 PM - 24 January, 2014
Cool...thanks for the info.

Makes my recent purchase of the ZXA5s feel a little better! lol
Joee 6:23 PM - 24 January, 2014
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Cool...thanks for the info.

Makes my recent purchase of the ZXA5s feel a little better! lol

didn't you ask this
Quote:
Yea, I tried doing that...couldn't get it!

Should I second guess my ZXA purchase that I made a month ago?????

didn't i say this "hell no" & this a 20 watt horn," the zxa5 horn is twice the power"


why you worried? i told you your good baby……..lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:54 PM - 24 January, 2014
Lol. Well I was curious since he actually Spoke to the EV rep!

I'm good!! Lol
Joee 6:59 PM - 24 January, 2014
is it to late to say…….. I TOLD YOU SO…….lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:44 PM - 24 January, 2014
lol

I got my first gig Feb 8th that I will be using them. Can't wait.
Joee 7:49 PM - 24 January, 2014
be warned …..you may have a person or persons ask you to turn the music down
DjCity 7:50 PM - 24 January, 2014
Ur gonna be happy!!!

1st gig I did with them.... BIG GRIN on my face!

Tomorrow's gig is with the Driverack.
I'm expecting an even bigger grin.
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:52 PM - 24 January, 2014
I know I will have to turn it down. It's an 11th birthday party at a restaurant. DJ and there is going to be Karaoke as well. Not the best gig, I know

Have a gig on the 9th too, not sure what it is yet but I will have a dancer with me too. So I may have a change to open them up a little more at that one.
Joee 8:04 PM - 24 January, 2014
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Not the best gig, I know

what ever gig get's you properly payed is the best gig in my book ;)

it will be i nice chance to try them without subs & since the volume probably won't need to be that loud it will give you a chance to boost the bass a little ,you can here the bass the put out
DjCity 8:10 PM - 24 January, 2014
I have my Tuki covers for my speakers.

Anyont KNOW what the material is called?
I'm trying to get some so I can make pockets.
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:17 PM - 24 January, 2014
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Not the best gig, I know
what ever gig get's you properly payed is the best gig in my book ;)



it will be i nice chance to try them without subs & since the volume probably won't need to be that loud it will give you a chance to boost the bass a little ,you can here the bass the put out



Agree...paid gigs are best gigs!

Yea, def looking forward to testing that out as that was one of the main reasons I bought them was to be used as stand alone speakers for small/medium gigs and still have decent bass output.
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:17 PM - 24 January, 2014
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I have my Tuki covers for my speakers.



Anyont KNOW what the material is called?

I'm trying to get some so I can make pockets.



Which covers did you get? Full Zip? If so, just put the cable on top of the speaker and then put the case on. Won't go anywhere.
DjCity 8:22 PM - 24 January, 2014
I did not get the zip ones.
Frankie Glasses 8:26 PM - 24 January, 2014
Soooo... as i posted a few days ago i want to sell my KW181 and replacing it for with a york...But because of the weight of the York I may not be able to handle the York by myself (loading/unloading)
NOW with this new EV line coming out I am looking at the ETX-18SP!
The ETX-18SP looks more managable but i know not the same as York but better than the JBL VRX?
Decisions.....
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:27 PM - 24 January, 2014
The ETX seems pretty heavy for it's size (which may lead to really nice sound), but lifting up by yourself may still be a little difficult. Especially with its low profile. Over 100lbs if I remember correctly.
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:28 PM - 24 January, 2014
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I did not get the zip ones.


still should be able to. It has a strap on the bottom right? Should be pretty secure.
DjCity 8:31 PM - 24 January, 2014
I think the new EV sub trump the QSC sub.

Only dilemma you have between them is that 1 EV sub still won't be enough.

It should be louder than the QSC but not game changing louder.

So......
Get two of the new EV subs and be happy
or
get another QSC and be happy.

Makes no sense to have 1 qsc sub with 1 ev sub.
Frankie Glasses 8:33 PM - 24 January, 2014
i am just going to slam my chevy tahoe so i can get the York in there!!! hahah
Joee 8:40 PM - 24 January, 2014
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The ETX seems pretty heavy for it's size (which may lead to really nice sound), but lifting up by yourself may still be a little difficult. Especially with its low profile. Over 100lbs if I remember correctly.


the weight is the only thing i don't like about the etx line….i'm at the max i want to be carrying around these days with 38lbs tops & 70lbs subs (rcf 312-a/rcf sub 705-as)

this setup has been getting it done for me with room to spare…..


i'm curious are you doing gigs in super big rooms? you sold you 312a/718as…cause you weren't getting the needed spl from that system..


i'm finding my rcf setup more than adequate …..i'm sure i can do 100 to 300 maybe 400 people with that system

not that it was the wrong thing to do your ZXA5's are on another level……tell the truth was it just all the talking about them that made you want them?……lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:50 PM - 24 January, 2014
LOL

I've been doing gigs up to 200 ppl in rooms that can hold up to 300. I've had pretty much everyone on the dance floor at some of these gigs and the sound gets eaten up pretty quickly. I found the limit light start to come on pretty quickly on the 718s and then not too far after the 312s.

I did one sweet 16 in a room that probably could have held 400-450 comfortably. and it was long and narrow. I was on the long side so trying to get volume in front of just the first 50 feet or so was tough. Walked toward the middle of the packed dance floor and it barely sounded like it was on.

I do tend to play a little loud and I think a lot of that comes from the energy I get from the floor. People are out there dancing and you get that high from it and you tend to bump up the volume as the night goes on. Like I said, I probably would NEVER need the full output of the ZXA5s, but needed a little more than the 312s were able to give me. Figure if I am going to make the investment to upgrade, why not go all out and get the best! :)
Changing the subs was a little more of a thought process. Actually was cheaper for me to sell the 2 tops and 2 subs to get 2 ZXAs and 1 Yorkville, than it was for me to keep the subs and just change the tops. For another $1300 I will get another York when I would have neeed like $2500 to get 2 more RCF subs to equal the same output. Plus having 4 speakers to move around rather than just 2.
Joee 10:34 PM - 24 January, 2014
i think we play a little different ……

1.i play manly latin so it's not as bass heavy

2.i don't want to fill the entire room with sound i worry more about that dance floor, not a night club setting

i think this is why it works for me & not for you
Certified Quality Entertainment 10:58 PM - 24 January, 2014
Possibly...no better or worse, just different.

My company and the company I work for are known for creating that "night club" environment. Hence the need for more lighting! ;)
Joee 11:02 PM - 24 January, 2014
you NEED a ddj sz
Certified Quality Entertainment 12:57 AM - 25 January, 2014
Trust me. I want one.
1st is 2 more intimidator spot 350s and 2 more trusses

2nd is. 2nd yorkville sub

3rd is the SZ. This will depend on the type of year I have.
JDforKing 2:34 AM - 25 January, 2014
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The ETX seems pretty heavy for it's size (which may lead to really nice sound), but lifting up by yourself may still be a little difficult. Especially with its low profile. Over 100lbs if I remember correctly.


the weight is the only thing i don't like about the etx line….i'm at the max i want to be carrying around these days with 38lbs tops & 70lbs subs (rcf 312-a/rcf sub 705-as)

this setup has been getting it done for me with room to spare…..


i'm curious are you doing gigs in super big rooms? you sold you 312a/718as…cause you weren't getting the needed spl from that system..


i'm finding my rcf setup more than adequate …..i'm sure i can do 100 to 300 maybe 400 people with that system

not that it was the wrong thing to do your ZXA5's are on another level……tell the truth was it just all the talking about them that made you want them?……lol


Why wouldn't you use the zxa5s for the gigs you use the rcf set up for? I think it would be easier to carry 2 50lb speakers instead of bring in 2 70lbs subs ands 2 38lbs tops.
Joee 1:30 PM - 25 January, 2014
^ because as good as the zxa5's sound……no two way top box sounds better stand alone than a two way/sub woofer


smaller gigs i only use one sub….so i'm not always carrying both
Joee 9:08 PM - 28 January, 2014
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The specs look good and they're actually measured values. One thing is the high frequency driver is only 1.25"

I think it is between the Yamaha and zxa5

Pricing is posted in nlfxpro.com

were is that rcf review huh huh huh………….lol
djdisbjohn 9:41 PM - 28 January, 2014
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The specs look good and they're actually measured values. One thing is the high frequency driver is only 1.25"

I think it is between the Yamaha and zxa5

Pricing is posted in nlfxpro.com

were is that rcf review huh huh huh………….lol


Just got back from Costa Rica yesterday for a bachelor party and it's been too cold and windy to do a review. I wanted to set up the speakers outside for testing. I should have one by this weekend
Joee 9:45 PM - 28 January, 2014
un huh……i know what time it is in costa rica, good place to go for a bachelor party ;)


cool will be waiting, but you know you could just put on a coat scarf ear muffs a hat & gloves & get to it……who cares if it's 0 below, I'm just saying………lol
djdisbjohn 10:21 PM - 28 January, 2014
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un huh……i know what time it is in costa rica, good place to go for a bachelor party ;)


cool will be waiting, but you know you could just put on a coat scarf ear muffs a hat & gloves & get to it……who cares if it's 0 below, I'm just saying………lol


Yeah bro... really great place! lol
had a blast down there.

the cold isn't the issue..it's the wind. looks like I may be able to do it today when i get home from work
Joee 10:22 PM - 28 January, 2014
it's cold out here……..them CR chicks whoooo boy…...
djdisbjohn 9:06 AM - 30 January, 2014
Here's a quick demo comparison for the RCF and EV. It wasn't ideal testing conditions since it was done in my garage. Had the neighbors complaining when it was outside. I will try to do another video when I'm out at a larger venue. The RCF has better mid range and vocal clarity compared to the EV. The EV still has the best raw output sound wise. For a similar volume level, the EV was at -9 and the RCF was at 2 o'clock and this is where the limiting light started on the bass kicks.

One weird thing I noticed that one of the RCF's was mislabeled with HD 12-A sticker. It has a powercon connection and the serial number says it's an HD 32-A. I compared the horn driver and it looks the same from the front. I will contact RCF to inquiry as well as open up the box and check for myself.

Watchwww.youtube.com
djdisbjohn 9:07 AM - 30 January, 2014
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Here's a quick demo comparison for the RCF and EV. It wasn't ideal testing conditions since it was done in my garage. Had the neighbors complaining when it was outside. I will try to do another video when I'm out at a larger venue. The RCF has better mid range and vocal clarity compared to the EV. The EV still has the best raw output sound wise. For a similar volume level, the EV was at -9 and the RCF was at 2 o'clock and this is where the limiting light started on the bass kicks.

One weird thing I noticed that one of the RCF's was mislabeled with HD 12-A sticker. It has a powercon connection and the serial number says it's an HD 32-A. I compared the horn driver and it looks the same from the front. I will contact RCF to inquiry as well as open up the box and check for myself.

Watchwww.youtube.com


Clarification : The EV was set to -9 DB (which is about 10 o'clock)
the_black_one 9:38 AM - 30 January, 2014
The ev's just need some eqing. Cool vid


Nm nh nb
pdidy 9:49 AM - 30 January, 2014
Just so we maintain a STANDARD reference point when we're conducting these unofficial sound tests with the ZXA5's.....

the speaker being tested should be set @ 12oclock or "UNITY" an pushed till the limit light comes on to set its max SPL with a clean signal.

then turn the zxa5 up from the OFF position until you reach equal output.

Note What clock position or db # you stop at on the ZXA5 for a balanced sound ?
iamevents.com
djdisbjohn 10:40 AM - 30 January, 2014
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Just so we maintain a STANDARD reference point when we're conducting these unofficial sound tests with the ZXA5's.....

the speaker being tested should be set @ 12oclock or "UNITY" an pushed till the limit light comes on to set its max SPL with a clean signal.

then turn the zxa5 up from the OFF position until you reach equal output.

Note What clock position or db # you stop at on the ZXA5 for a balanced sound ?
iamevents.com


I will try this next time when I can either test outside or in a larger venue. Thanks
pdidy 10:50 AM - 30 January, 2014
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Here's a quick demo comparison for the RCF and EV. It wasn't ideal testing conditions since it was done in my garage. Had the neighbors complaining when it was outside. I will try to do another video when I'm out at a larger venue. The RCF has better mid range and vocal clarity compared to the EV. The EV still has the best raw output sound wise. For a similar volume level, the EV was at -9 and the RCF was at 2 o'clock and this is where the limiting light started on the bass kicks.

One weird thing I noticed that one of the RCF's was mislabeled with HD 12-A sticker. It has a powercon connection and the serial number says it's an HD 32-A. I compared the horn driver and it looks the same from the front. I will contact RCF to inquiry as well as open up the box and check for myself.

Watchwww.youtube.com

thanks djdisbjohn
great Comparison review.......

I think i was most surprised at how close in height the HD 32-A is to the zxa5. I was expecting similar to qsc k12 size i26.photobucket.com but no doubt its a great looking speaker.

I noticed you were running in bass boost mode to compete with the bass output of the zxa5.
I no Bass boost tends to eats up alot of headroom or additional output in powered speakers so i guess it would have gotten a bit louder when pushed to max limit in flat mode.

I notice you had both speakers perfectly matched output wise so its nearly impossible to tell the difference in a blind test. As we all no sound quality is nearly impossible to judge with a video cam over youtube but i would expect the rcf 2in hi freq driver to have slightly better clarity at its max output.

So with the zxa5 playing at -12db, im wondering if it will take more than 2 HD 32-A to get louder than 1 zxa5 @ unity ? guess you gota test that tooo....lol
Where is unity on the rcf, 12oclock or all the way up ?

if i dont go jbl vrx tops, the rcf HD 32-A is near the top of my list for light weight tops.

Also good to see you clearly understand proper gain structure.
pdidy 10:58 AM - 30 January, 2014
I think you should re post this in its own NEW thread.
DJ GaFFle 2:49 PM - 30 January, 2014
I like the fact you had the speakers like-for-like and in close proximity to one another w/o boundaries (corners, ceilings, floor) influencing the sound unfairly. I'd really like to know how loud that RCF gets before it limits (no deep-mode) in comparison to the ZXA5.

It's not really a fair comparison having a 12" vs. a 15" speaker but it is a fair solution vs. solution comparison.

(nm)
DJ GaFFle 3:05 PM - 30 January, 2014
... also, I can't stand when these high-end PA companies use crappy folk music to test for sound quality. I guess they're trying play music that appeals to live sound crowds but it usually doesn't cater to the music most people are pushing through these speakers.

You even went so far as to loop a song, which is good for A/B comparisons. Multiple songs types should be done in comparisons.
djdisbjohn 3:48 PM - 30 January, 2014
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I think you should re post this in its own NEW thread.


Here ya go

serato.com
DJKayce 5:24 AM - 4 February, 2014
Anyone interested in ZXA5. I have 8 available. Used tho. Inbox me for more info.
pdidy 6:05 AM - 4 February, 2014
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Anyone interested in ZXA5. I have 8 available. Used tho. Inbox me for more info.

What are you replacing them with ?
DJKayce 10:28 AM - 4 February, 2014
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Anyone interested in ZXA5. I have 8 available. Used tho. Inbox me for more info.

What are you replacing them with ?


Nothing. They are still the best out there. I have the ones am using. These ones just came thru somehow. Inbox pls.
d2benz 1:36 AM - 7 February, 2014
The ZXa5 has got to be the best 15" powered speaker out there...DSR115 doesn't compare.

'nuff said
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:39 AM - 7 February, 2014
Have my first gig with my zxas tomorrow. Sweet 16. Room holds about 120. Debating on if I want to bring in the Yorkville to go with them. I prob won't when I load in. Test out the zxas full range and go from there
dj_soo 1:46 AM - 7 February, 2014
2 zxas and a yorkville sounds like total overkill for 120
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:54 AM - 7 February, 2014
Probably. I'll see how the do full range first then decide. I haven't used them yet so I still don't know the "awesomeness" lol
djdisbjohn 1:54 AM - 7 February, 2014
Kids like it loud and like the bass.
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:01 AM - 7 February, 2014
I know but the dance floor isn't that big. If I was in the big room of this catering hall I would def use the sub
the_black_one 2:04 AM - 7 February, 2014
did a private event last week .... This dude's "party house" ...... he wanted "rave like" music levels .... i told him it was going to cost him but i can make it happen.

4 yorkys
4 Zxa5

yeah ... dude was like ..... " my ears hurt"!!!

0_o

NM NH NB
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:09 AM - 7 February, 2014
Lol. Nice!
Taipanic 2:42 PM - 7 February, 2014
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Probably. I'll see how the do full range first then decide. I haven't used them yet so I still don't know the "awesomeness" lol


Use the sub. As good as the ZXa5s are, they will not replicate the bass you can get from the Yorkville. No reason to possibly overdrive the EVs to get enough bass to make the kids happy when you have a loud, deep sub available. Set the EVs to -12db and max out the Yorkville with the shape set to more deep than loud.
SG SOUNDS 2:57 PM - 7 February, 2014
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The ZXa5 has got to be the best 15" powered speaker out there...DSR115 doesn't compare.

'nuff said


To say the DSR115 doesnt compare to the ZXA5 is ignorance on your part...Have you ever heard the DSR115? Probably not...The DSR115 is probably the only speaker that can match the ZXA5 in output...Me personally i rather the ZXA5 but the DSR115 can hold its ground against the ZXA5 its a very efficient speaker and very loud....Also cheaper and a 7 year warranty...
DjCity 2:59 PM - 7 February, 2014
I don't know about making out the sub.

I use mine at about unity (12:00) and have the zxa5 at about (8:00).

It also depends on your gain structure in serato and your mixer.
DjCity 3:01 PM - 7 February, 2014
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I don't know about making out the sub.

I use mine at about unity (12:00) and have the zxa5 at about (8:00).

It also depends on your gain structure in serato and your mixer.


Maxing. Should say I don't know about MAXING out the sub.
SG SOUNDS 3:10 PM - 7 February, 2014
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Have my first gig with my zxas tomorrow. Sweet 16. Room holds about 120. Debating on if I want to bring in the Yorkville to go with them. I prob won't when I load in. Test out the zxas full range and go from there


For 120 people you wont need the yorkvilles....Did a gig last week with 2 DXR 15 and 1 yorkville,had to turn the yorkville off and just use the 2 DXR 15s...The DXR 15 always cease to amaze me with its awesome low end the gig had about 110 people and the DXR was more than enough without the yorkies..

So im pretty sure your 2 ZXA5 would be more than enough...
Joee 3:17 PM - 7 February, 2014
them dxr15 might be the poor mans zxa5.......you can get two for less than the price of one zxa5 & they sound pretty nice
SG SOUNDS 4:06 PM - 7 February, 2014
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them dxr15 might be the poor mans zxa5.......you can get two for less than the price of one zxa5 & they sound pretty nice


Man they sound awesome for a poormans zxa5..
Taipanic 4:17 PM - 7 February, 2014
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I don't know about making out the sub.

I use mine at about unity (12:00) and have the zxa5 at about (8:00).

It also depends on your gain structure in serato and your mixer.


Maxing. Should say I don't know about MAXING out the sub.


Of course there are lots of variables in the sound setup. Maxing the gain on the sub does not mean that you will max the sub out and blow it up if you have the rest of your sound chain set up properly. In the Pro Sound word, 8000 watt amps are powering 2000 watt speakers, as they need that power to "come alive". The speaker is not taking 8k continuously but sounds better with a higher powered amp than it would with a 2000 watt amp.

Also, I have never heard a system that is playing modern dance music that doesn't sound way better with a sub than without. Yes, you can play loud music with the EVs but it just doesn't compare to having subs to balance the sound out. I know a lot of people do it, but we all know it just doesn't sound as good. Me, I am not going to do a gig and not sound as good as it can because I'm being lazy and don't want to load in and out a sub that has wheels. I move my Yorkvilles 90% of the time by myself, including lifting in and out of my HHR Panel.
JDforKing 4:18 PM - 7 February, 2014
I had the dxr15s loved them, but opted to go with the drx8 with the dxs12 sub. I like the sound of a dedicated sub top combo better than trying to get bass out of a 2 way speaker.
DjCity 4:27 PM - 7 February, 2014
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I don't know about making out the sub.

I use mine at about unity (12:00) and have the zxa5 at about (8:00).

It also depends on your gain structure in serato and your mixer.


Maxing. Should say I don't know about MAXING out the sub.


Of course there are lots of variables in the sound setup. Maxing the gain on the sub does not mean that you will max the sub out and blow it up if you have the rest of your sound chain set up properly. In the Pro Sound word, 8000 watt amps are powering 2000 watt speakers, as they need that power to "come alive". The speaker is not taking 8k continuously but sounds better with a higher powered amp than it would with a 2000 watt amp.

Also, I have never heard a system that is playing modern dance music that doesn't sound way better with a sub than without. Yes, you can play loud music with the EVs but it just doesn't compare to having subs to balance the sound out. I know a lot of people do it, but we all know it just doesn't sound as good. Me, I am not going to do a gig and not sound as good as it can because I'm being lazy and don't want to load in and out a sub that has wheels. I move my Yorkvilles 90% of the time by myself, including lifting in and out of my HHR Panel.


I ALWAYS use my sub(s) at every show.

I know that with power amps, I have always opened them all the way up. I have found that with powered speakers, I don't have to open them up all the way. If i did, my gains would be so low that cueing would be impossible and the master would be ridiculously low.
Taipanic 4:32 PM - 7 February, 2014
Right, as I said there are a lot of variables. I don't have mine set to max always either, I was just indicating that you could max out the single Yorkville with the EVs at -12 and will have a mostly balanced sound (really need 2-3 Yorks at higher volumes).
d2benz 8:26 PM - 7 February, 2014
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The ZXa5 has got to be the best 15" powered speaker out there...DSR115 doesn't compare.

'nuff said


To say the DSR115 doesnt compare to the ZXA5 is ignorance on your part...Have you ever heard the DSR115? Probably not...The DSR115 is probably the only speaker that can match the ZXA5 in output...Me personally i rather the ZXA5 but the DSR115 can hold its ground against the ZXA5 its a very efficient speaker and very loud....Also cheaper and a 7 year warranty...


I'm not ignorant.....I have both. I use the dsr115 for smaller events that doesn't require subs., because the ZXa5 doesn't deliver enuff bass for me....dsr beats ZXa5 for stand alone usage. When I have to do bigger space...ZXa5 is LOUD and CLEAN.... DSR can't keep up with the ZX...I've used all 4 together with 3 yorkies.....'nuff said.
Joee 8:32 PM - 7 February, 2014
^ so in short the dsr has better bass response ,but the zxa is louder, thank you sir i have been wanting to hear a zxa5/dsr15 comparison
Joee 8:37 PM - 7 February, 2014
1:45 in.....i think he may be right.......lol
Watchwww.youtube.com
the_black_one 8:44 PM - 7 February, 2014
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^ so in short the dsr has better bass response ,but the zxa is louder, thank you sir i have been wanting to hear a zxa5/dsr15 comparison



Hunmmmm... I question this...

Nm nh
Joee 8:49 PM - 7 February, 2014
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^ so in short the dsr has better bass response ,but the zxa is louder, thank you sir i have been wanting to hear a zxa5/dsr15 comparison



Hunmmmm... I question this...

Nm nh

i do also......but being that the dsr is in a wood box & know how well the dxr15 basses it might be true
the_black_one 9:03 PM - 7 February, 2014
Gonna have to do a test

Nm nh
Al Poulin 9:05 PM - 7 February, 2014
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I'm not ignorant.....I have both. I use the dsr115 for smaller events that doesn't require subs., because the ZXa5 doesn't deliver enuff bass for me....dsr beats ZXa5 for stand alone usage. When I have to do bigger space...ZXa5 is LOUD and CLEAN.... DSR can't keep up with the ZX...I've used all 4 together with 3 yorkies.....'nuff said.

A few things to note here : since the ZXA5s don't actually have limiters or limit indicators, it could kind of appear to be louder than any speaker out there. (until it blows up - which does happen) Also, in a setup where you are using these different speakers together, if the DSR's gain sensitivity were higher than the ZXA5's when set at unity (or vice versa), the fact that one speaker would limit before the other could simply be because it's actually producing more SPL from the mixer signal (because of this higher gtain sensitivity). both of these speakers are EXTREMELY powerful and they both have similar applied power, so I really don't think there's going to be a night and day difference here in terms of output - except the extra DB or two the EV can muster because of a lack of protection. I personally would prefer to have that protection there rather than to risk losing some expensive transducers. As for sound quality, I haven't tested the EV, so I can't comment, but while I like the sound of the DSR115, I don't find it particularly well balanced. It sounds a little bit like if it was pre smiley face EQ'd by Yamaha - which many DJs will love, but which I found a little hard to tolerate at high levels. The mids seem to be lacking while the top end is really in your face. I prefer the sound quality of the DXR cabs in spite of their lower output. I mich prefer the line-x finish on the DSRs however. Anyway, I think the main point here is that at this top end of these uppper MI grade actives, overall performance will be similar enough. It comes down to personal sound preference, important features and even warranty. I would like to hear some upper end RCFs myself (7 series or even the HDs). I don't do big events mind you, mostly small weddings and parties - something the DXRs are ideal for.

Al
the_black_one 9:40 PM - 7 February, 2014
For me... The least processing In my active speaker the better.. A good example is horrible processing in the box is the qsc k series ... That shit sux .... I can eq, compress/limit gate and crossover better than most on board processing. If a box does not sound good out the box it dies not mean that it can't sound good... There is the problem... Too many folks want great sound out the box..... Give me a " true " cabinet and I will make it sound good.... One of the reasons why I bought the ev over others... It truly is a box that can sound great .., I'm not going into the whole processing argument but I always run processing ... I never go from mixer to speaker..... I don't need the box to have a built in limiter ... You can get more out the cabinet if you know what your doing....

Nm
the_black_one 9:44 PM - 7 February, 2014
Also the crossover points on the built in active tops sux too... What If I don't want the crossover point at 100 hz?? What if I want it lower ???

You see what I'm saying!!!

Nm nh
the_black_one 9:47 PM - 7 February, 2014
Adjusting the crossover curve ... Yeah... U can't adjust that on the speaker !!!


Nm nh
Al Poulin 9:49 PM - 7 February, 2014
My (KV2) KX12s need some EQ to sound the way I like them, but once you add a little top end and low end, the 2.5" VC compression driver really shines. This is truly a well built box. All neo Inside, but this 12" active still comes in at 60lbs! Designed by George Kramperra (RCF, B&C, Yorkville), these are my most solid boxes and best sounding in the mids as well. Output is surprising for such a compact box and I believe I have one of the only videos on youtube about it! I love my DXRs, but now too many people own them. :-) I like having something different, so I'll often take out the KX Audios just to get questions about them. Here is my (long) video about them. They are no longer available and retailed at roughly 3K a pair :

Watchwww.youtube.com

Al
DJ GaFFle 9:58 PM - 7 February, 2014
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A few things to note here : since the ZXA5s don't actually have limiters or limit indicators, it could kind of appear to be louder than any speaker out there. (until it blows up - which does happen)...

Now don't get it twisted... you can blow ANY powered speaker, even the ones WITH limiters. It happens all the time or else the electronic repair shops would go out of business.

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Also, in a setup where you are using these different speakers together, if the DSR's gain sensitivity were higher than the ZXA5's when set at unity (or vice versa), the fact that one speaker would limit before the other could simply be because it's actually producing more SPL from the mixer signal (because of this higher gtain sensitivity). both of these speakers are EXTREMELY powerful and they both have similar applied power, so I really don't think there's going to be a night and day difference here in terms of output - except the extra DB or two the EV can muster because of a lack of protection...

That lack of limiter may not be the only factor in why the ZXA5 is so loud. It could be due to the actual hardware (drivers) having a higher sensitivity that those of other manufacturers or say the ones Yamaha puts in the DSR's. If they have a higher sensitivity, they're gonna essentially be louder with the same applied power than their lower sensitivity competition. For example, the power-hungry JBL SRX drivers have low sensitivity and require a ton of power to get them going. For example... a passive ZX5 box gets easily louder than a SRX715 box with 100w driven into both because the SRX line is so inefficient sensitivity-wise. (not judging overall sound quality)

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I personally would prefer to have that protection there rather than to risk losing some expensive transducers.

Me too.


DJ GaFFle 10:02 PM - 7 February, 2014
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My (KV2) KX12s... Here is my (long) video about them. They are no longer available and retailed at roughly 3K a pair :

Watchwww.youtube.com

Al

I had a chance to buy a pair of floor model KV2 10" for $750 each at the GC here a few years ago. Damn, I slept on that deal!

They were originally ordered for Big Boi of Outkast but he never came in to get them.

(nm)
DJ GaFFle 10:03 PM - 7 February, 2014
KV2 EX10's ^^^
Al Poulin 10:04 PM - 7 February, 2014
Absolutely agreed Gaffle - good points. I mentionned gain sensitivity becasues it is often overlooked - especially when it comes to in store demoes where 2 competing speakers will be set at unity and fed a same signal for the comparison. In most cases the speaker with the higher gain sensitivity will be seen as louder - even though being louder with a given signal does not mean louder at the limit point...Anyway, just one of my pet peeves. :-)

Al
the_black_one 11:24 PM - 7 February, 2014
perfect example of this guy not having a clue

Watchwww.youtube.com


nm nh
Joee 11:30 PM - 7 February, 2014
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perfect example of this guy not having a clue

Watchwww.youtube.com


nm nh

lol.....i remember that video.....he has the mixer section of the ev set to half way but wants the speaker to have full volume

smh
Al Poulin 12:14 AM - 8 February, 2014
I just had to add a comment to that one. A perfect example of what I was talking about. Unfortunately, this type of comparison makes perfect sense to many people and the video obviously proved to them that the QSC was louder...

Al
the_black_one 12:16 AM - 8 February, 2014
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I just had to add a comment to that one. A perfect example of what I was talking about. Unfortunately, this type of comparison makes perfect sense to many people and the video obviously proved to them that the QSC was louder...

Al



after reading your comment about spl before limiting .... this video came to mind and had to post .....


nm nh
the_black_one 12:46 AM - 8 February, 2014
not in English ...... Watchwww.youtube.com
Joee 12:52 AM - 8 February, 2014
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not in English ...... Watchwww.youtube.com

@ the_black_one

those guys work in a pro audio store, they ABSOLUTELY know what there talking about, is that a brazil guitar center......

you know guitar center is the tops when it comes to knowledge about pro audio

........lol
the_black_one 12:56 AM - 8 February, 2014
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not in English ...... Watchwww.youtube.com

@ the_black_one

those guys work in a pro audio store, they ABSOLUTELY know what there talking about, is that a brazil guitar center......

you know guitar center is the tops when it comes to knowledge about pro audio

........lol



i love the levels coming out the Yamaha board ...

LOL

nm nh nb
Al Poulin 12:57 AM - 8 February, 2014
Sometimes, I see so much stupidity in these youtube videos, that I just want to cry. It can be a video like you posted, where the dude really doesn't have a clue, or it can be that newbie that makes a video raving about his 5000 watt Technical Pro built-in light show amplifier receiver, or it can be most of the beginner DJ world raving about a 170$ active speaker from American Audio. It's all just a little discouraging. In the case of the American Audio ELS-15A, I was lucky enough that my dealer brought some in for the fun of it (and absolutely wanted me to try them), so I was able to make an honest Youtube review, but still, to have that dude from DJNews actually recommending these is beyond my comprehension. Does he not have ears? He (or his sons) could not detect a hint of harshness in these? Holy fuck. Worst compression driver I've ever heard, and boosting the treble, which I believe is - for some reason - centered at 3K, would have made me prefer having 2 giant dildos inserted in my ears rather than to have to listen to these any longer. :)
the_black_one 1:02 AM - 8 February, 2014
LOL @ dildos in ears ......


nm nh
Joee 1:07 AM - 8 February, 2014
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would have made me prefer having 2 giant dildos inserted in my ears :)

whoa there al........lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:17 AM - 8 February, 2014
At the gig. Brought the sub! Lol. Post back later
Joee 1:19 AM - 8 February, 2014
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At the gig. Brought the sub! Lol. Post back later

try them first full without sub for one song.......i want to hear your impressions
the_black_one 1:20 AM - 8 February, 2014
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At the gig. Brought the sub! Lol. Post back later



pic with hot chick and yorks and ev's!!!!


nm nh
the_black_one 2:01 AM - 8 February, 2014
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At the gig. Brought the sub! Lol. Post back later



if it's not as epic as this ... i dont want to see it ..... Watchwww.youtube.com


nm nh
Al Poulin 2:39 AM - 8 February, 2014
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At the gig. Brought the sub! Lol. Post back later



pic with hot chick and yorks and ev's!!!!


nm nh


And maybe some dildos in their ears, if possible.
the_black_one 2:42 AM - 8 February, 2014
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At the gig. Brought the sub! Lol. Post back later



pic with hot chick and yorks and ev's!!!!


nm nh


And maybe some dildos in their ears, if possible.



LMFAO!!!!!!

nm nh
Al Poulin 2:57 AM - 8 February, 2014
OK, fine - if they could be at least sitting on the Yorks with a near orgasmic look of intense pleasure, that would also be good.

Al
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:03 AM - 8 February, 2014
Do the EVs tend to run a lil warm?
the_black_one 3:17 AM - 8 February, 2014
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Do the EVs tend to run a lil warm?



little bit .... not burning hot tho

nm nh
Joee 2:16 PM - 8 February, 2014
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Do the EVs tend to run a lil warm?

so whats the verdict on the ev.....
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:12 PM - 8 February, 2014
OK...so I absolutely loved the EVs.

So room holds around 120 people and to start out i just brought in the 2 EVs and to see how it would sound. Had them on full range and they sounded great. I honestly could have probably gotten away with using just them but it was a sweet 16 and kids love bass so i decided to grab the yorkville.

The MC I was working with is pretty loud on the mic and he has said in the past when doing gigs (in bigger rooms) that he thought the mic sounds distorted. I use the SX, but run through a separate mixer for the mic to I get rid of that SX mic issue. With the EVs he said it sounded great. I honestly like the sound of the EVs better than the RCFs. Could be just because they can project better but I was very happy with them. Moving to the back of the room, it sounds like the speakers are right there in front of you.

Being my first gig with them I didn't want to push too much, but they sounded crystal clear all night and I'm sure I had a lot more headroom if needed. I had them set on -3 with the sub at unity. Hardly had the sub hitting limit, maybe a note here or there for a second ( i put the sub on my booth output to have separate control over it. On my SX, I had the channel gains around 11 oclock and the master around 12. On my individual channel meters, I didn't hit red once, (and maybe even not even orange) and the mic channel with the loud MC stayed in green all night when. Master level meter never hit 0db...highest it went was -6db.

How high on the EVs, have you guys gone as far as setting the level there? My RCFs, I used to have them up all the way and never had a problem. I dont think the EVs would respond as well to that, but I would think you can easily go past unity and still get that crystal clear sound as well as that high level SPL.

Going through the night though, for bigger rooms I definitely want another yorkville. For this room the 1 was enough (not even limiting), but if I really want to open up the EVs, you need to have at least 2 and probably more like most people said. Again, it was my first gig (and in a smaller room) so I didn't want to or have the need to really push them.

As far as stand alone in full range, they sounded great. Bass was decent with channel EQs all at 0. I think to get more bass using full range, you have to turn up the master, turn down you treb/mid and turn the bass up a little. That's what I did for that size room and for anything other than a sweet 16 I would have just did that. I used to do that on my RCF 312s and they responded well without really limiting so I am sure I could have really bumped up the volume on the EVs and still been ok.

My gig today I am using the venue's sound system, but tomorrow I have a christening that I will be using them in full range without the sub so I can see how it will be there.
For a good test for me to try and get used to the output and that safe zone. I want to set up my RCF on one side and the EV on the other. Set them at the same levels and turn up the gain on the speakers until I get the limit light to turn on on the RCF and then know, I pretty much have 2x more headroom on the EV! :)
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:15 PM - 8 February, 2014
Only able to snap 1 pic of the setup. It's a lil dark but the York is on the right side of the setup ( left on the pic).

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Joee 8:19 PM - 8 February, 2014
^ cool beans .....it looked like everyone had a good time, the highest i've ever set mine to was +3
Joee 8:20 PM - 8 February, 2014
^ wait? i was looking at pics from another event? ......lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:21 PM - 8 February, 2014
Oh...one thing I forgot which was very strange. Ive had my SX for over a year...used it on about 40-50 events or so. NEVER had 1 issue. Last night with about 15 mins left in the party the SX just restarted. It was almost like somoene pushed a resent button. Of course music went off. My MC was great though, so he played it off to save me. But the entire unit went off, then turned right back on. Very strange. So naturally the mic went off too, but since the unit came right back on, he was able to start talking agin. I thought I may have tripped a breaker since I was going strong at that point with a packed dance floor and everything pumping.
I posted a thread in the help section but like I said, I have had not 1 issue with my SX. The only thing that has changed was adding the yorkville...think vibrations maybe could have caused it? SDJ didn't crash at all, as soon s the SX started up again, I was able to start playing again, didn't have to restart SDJ or my laptop or anything. It was totally a hardware thing. The EVs were plugged into the same line as my SX and those stayed on (as far as I know, unless I wasn't able to see them flash off for a second.
Joee 8:59 PM - 8 February, 2014
^ with that happening to you i think i will alway use a mackie mixer this way if something were to go wrong with the sx i will have a iPod connected for backup and always have use of my mic

hit play on the iPod and pull out the backup player
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:18 PM - 8 February, 2014
yea, it was very bizzare. Honestly, by the time I would have hit play on an ipod, the SX was back up and running ready to go. If it was maybe 5 seconds that was a lot. But of course 5 seconds when the dance floor is full feels like an hour. And liek I said, I haven't had 1 issue with my SX until yesterday.

my first thought is that I tripped the breaker but i don't think that happened.

I have a few pics from other events up there. Only the one with stages and trusses was from last night.
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:20 PM - 8 February, 2014
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^ cool beans .....it looked like everyone had a good time, the highest i've ever set mine to was +3


and at +3 you were still running clean? I can't even imagine going up that high compared to how it was last night.
Joee 9:24 PM - 8 February, 2014
clean 62 in the green no amber or red.......super big room super loud
Certified Quality Entertainment 11:28 PM - 8 February, 2014
Awesome. Good to know. If I had my levels on my SX where they were last night and the ev at +3 would have been way too loud. Would even have been able to walk into the room
Joee 12:07 AM - 9 February, 2014
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Awesome. Good to know. If I had my levels on my SX where they were last night and the ev at +3 would have been way too loud. Would even have been able to walk into the room

you will never ever.....EVER EVER EVER

have to worry about spl....ever again, as you now know you could walk 50 feet away and they still sound like there in your face
the_black_one 7:19 PM - 9 February, 2014
My gosh!!! Just saw this video from a dude named dj magic mike ... This dude is talking about how Gemini speakers sound great ... SMFH .....

Nm nh
Al Poulin 12:27 AM - 10 February, 2014
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My gosh!!! Just saw this video from a dude named dj magic mike ... This dude is talking about how Gemini speakers sound great ... SMFH .....

Nm nh


Perhaps a better name for him would be "DJ wild imagination because he smokes tons of crack Mike".
the_black_one 2:21 AM - 10 February, 2014
Al..... Check it. ...... youtu.be
Al Poulin 3:11 AM - 10 February, 2014
Well, at least he's not using their cheapest active line. The GV-X at least looks like it may have a little bit of quality in them. Still, I'm happy he got 4 of them - that way he'll have backups when they fail one at a time during important gigs.

Sure you can spend 800$ on a QSC speaker, but who needs all of that power, quality sound, flexible mixer section, 6 year warranty, proven reliability, excellent service? Apparently not this guy...

Al
JDforKing 4:50 AM - 10 February, 2014
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Well, at least he's not using their cheapest active line. The GV-X at least looks like it may have a little bit of quality in them. Still, I'm happy he got 4 of them - that way he'll have backups when they fail one at a time during important gigs.

Sure you can spend 800$ on a QSC speaker, but who needs all of that power, quality sound, flexible mixer section, 6 year warranty, proven reliability, excellent service? Apparently not this guy...

Al


He's upgraded. I think the gemni videos were from 2010. He has other videos on the jbl prx series.
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:29 PM - 10 February, 2014
Anyone else notice this nice warning on their ZXA? lol I don't think I have seen other speakers with this warning on it!

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Joee 2:34 PM - 10 February, 2014
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Anyone else notice this nice warning on their ZXA? lol I don't think I have seen other speakers with this warning on it!

i209.photobucket.com

yea, i also have never seen it on another box, but have never used a box as loud.....crazy that a 40watt horn can get so loud
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:45 PM - 10 February, 2014
Yea, pretty crazy.

So my gig last night was a Christening. Being that, I wasn't going to bring in the Yorkville. But I had a good crowd that wanted to dance so I jus had the EVs on full range. Total guests were about 100 (give or take) but the room was big. I asked the Matre D how many people can fit in this room b/c there was A LOT of empty space. She said comfortably you can get 200-210 in there. So it was a nice size room for me to test out the ZXAs in full range a little. Still didn't go past -3 on my speaker gain. Mixer gain was around 11 o clock and master around 11 as well. Was plenty loud and clear for the dance floor, speeches and everything else. I actually just had to lower the top and mids a tad to about 11 o clock and bumped up the bass slightly to get a nice even sound on the dance floor.

What I really like about them is how far they project. I noticed with the RCFs...Joee confirm if you agree...that they sound louder as you walk closer to them, while the EVs seem to have the same volume whether you are in front of them or 30 feet back. You don't get that big hot spot 10 feet in front and then it fades away, it is very even throughout the whole room. So you dont' have to crank the volume to get good sound because it just carries so far.

It was more than enough for that room, and I had a ton more volume left if I needed it (probably about double what I was playing at). If it was a wedding or sweet 16 in that room I def would have brought the sub, but for a Christening, full range was more than enough.

Super happy with my purchase so far. Love the power linking as I plug in a small LED light to the output and it leaves my power strip with extra slots available if needed.
Joee 3:03 PM - 10 February, 2014
agree....the ev's are in your face sound, rcf not so much when you move back, but they work great for me most events, i don't need it to sound like a night club

i want people to be able to have that area were they can walk off to mingle
DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:26 PM - 10 February, 2014
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agree....the ev's are in your face sound, rcf not so much when you move back, but they work great for me most events, i don't need it to sound like a night club

i want people to be able to have that area were they can walk off to mingle


Great point. The whole venue does not need the music "in their face". People like to be able to sit at tables to talk & mingle without having to scream at the top of their lungs.
Joee 3:29 PM - 10 February, 2014
^ nothing worse that having to yell at someone sitting right next to you, but there are dj's out there that be leave louder is better
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:47 PM - 10 February, 2014
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^ nothing worse that having to yell at someone sitting right next to you, but there are dj's out there that be leave louder is better


I agree. And that was kind of the point I was trying to make. You don't have to have the EV's super loud and you are able to get nice even sound clean sound without having to blast it.
Dance floor sounds good while outskirts and back sound nice whre you can hear it and still talk.
As opposed to blasting on the dance floor and having the same effect on the outskirts.
DjCity 6:39 PM - 10 February, 2014
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^ nothing worse that having to yell at someone sitting right next to you, but there are dj's out there that be leave louder is better


I'm a believer that list is better. Lol
Louder is not always better though. Clarity trumps volume!

Loud and clear is the answer!
DJ GaFFle 10:52 PM - 10 February, 2014
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...crazy that a 40watt horn can get so loud

It's all about driver efficiency and sensitivity.

EV ZXA5 HF driver
1w = 112dB
2w = 113dB
4w = 114dB
8w = 115dB
16w = 116dB
32w = 117dB
40w ~ 117dB

JBL SRX715 HF driver
1w = 108dB
2w = 109dB
4w = 110dB
8w = 111dB
16w = 112dB
32w = 113dB
40w ~ 113dB

... so with the same 40watts of power, the ZXA5 gets a noticeable 4dB louder than the HF driver of the SRX715. I think the SRX can handle more power and it's a larger voice coil but this is an example of how sensitivity of the drivers can make a nice difference in how loud a speaker can get. The SRX's are nice but they are power hogs.
Joee 11:34 PM - 10 February, 2014
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...crazy that a 40watt horn can get so loud

It's all about driver efficiency and sensitivity.

EV ZXA5 HF driver
1w = 112dB
2w = 113dB
4w = 114dB
8w = 115dB
16w = 116dB
32w = 117dB
40w ~ 117dB

JBL SRX715 HF driver
1w = 108dB
2w = 109dB
4w = 110dB
8w = 111dB
16w = 112dB
32w = 113dB
40w ~ 113dB

... so with the same 40watts of power, the ZXA5 gets a noticeable 4dB louder than the HF driver of the SRX715. I think the SRX can handle more power and it's a larger voice coil but this is an example of how sensitivity of the drivers can make a nice difference in how loud a speaker can get. The SRX's are nice but they are power hogs.

you just went geek on um......lol, good info
Al Poulin 1:31 AM - 11 February, 2014
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...crazy that a 40watt horn can get so loud

It's all about driver efficiency and sensitivity.

EV ZXA5 HF driver
1w = 112dB
2w = 113dB
4w = 114dB
8w = 115dB
16w = 116dB
32w = 117dB
40w ~ 117dB

JBL SRX715 HF driver
1w = 108dB
2w = 109dB
4w = 110dB
8w = 111dB
16w = 112dB
32w = 113dB
40w ~ 113dB

... so with the same 40watts of power, the ZXA5 gets a noticeable 4dB louder than the HF driver of the SRX715. I think the SRX can handle more power and it's a larger voice coil but this is an example of how sensitivity of the drivers can make a nice difference in how loud a speaker can get. The SRX's are nice but they are power hogs.


Incorrect. Doubling applied power = a 3DB increase. If your sensitivity spec at 1 watt are correct, that would get you roughly 128DBs from the EV and 124DB from the JBL.
DJ GaFFle 1:48 AM - 11 February, 2014
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...crazy that a 40watt horn can get so loud

It's all about driver efficiency and sensitivity.

EV ZXA5 HF driver
1w = 112dB
2w = 113dB
4w = 114dB
8w = 115dB
16w = 116dB
32w = 117dB
40w ~ 117dB

JBL SRX715 HF driver
1w = 108dB
2w = 109dB
4w = 110dB
8w = 111dB
16w = 112dB
32w = 113dB
40w ~ 113dB

... so with the same 40watts of power, the ZXA5 gets a noticeable 4dB louder than the HF driver of the SRX715. I think the SRX can handle more power and it's a larger voice coil but this is an example of how sensitivity of the drivers can make a nice difference in how loud a speaker can get. The SRX's are nice but they are power hogs.


Incorrect. Doubling applied power = a 3DB increase. If your sensitivity spec at 1 watt are correct, that would get you roughly 128DBs from the EV and 124DB from the JBL.

YOu're right, didn't have time to correct before leaving work... but the my premise is moreso about the sensitivity and efficient drivers.
DJ GaFFle 1:52 AM - 11 February, 2014
For visuals:

EV ZXA5 HF driver
1w = 112dB
2w = 115dB
4w = 118dB
8w = 121dB
16w = 124dB
32w = 127dB
40w ~ 128dB

JBL SRX715 HF driver
1w = 108dB
2w = 111dB
4w = 114dB
8w = 117dB
16w = 120dB
32w = 123dB
40w ~ 124dB
Al Poulin 2:05 AM - 11 February, 2014
In passive speakers, the HF driver is usually padded down significantly so as not to overpower the much less efficient woofer.
Frankie Glasses 7:52 PM - 11 February, 2014
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OK...so I absolutely loved the EVs.

So room holds around 120 people and to start out i just brought in the 2 EVs and to see how it would sound. Had them on full range and they sounded great. I honestly could have probably gotten away with using just them but it was a sweet 16 and kids love bass so i decided to grab the yorkville.

The MC I was working with is pretty loud on the mic and he has said in the past when doing gigs (in bigger rooms) that he thought the mic sounds distorted. I use the SX, but run through a separate mixer for the mic to I get rid of that SX mic issue. With the EVs he said it sounded great. I honestly like the sound of the EVs better than the RCFs. Could be just because they can project better but I was very happy with them. Moving to the back of the room, it sounds like the speakers are right there in front of you.

Being my first gig with them I didn't want to push too much, but they sounded crystal clear all night and I'm sure I had a lot more headroom if needed. I had them set on -3 with the sub at unity. Hardly had the sub hitting limit, maybe a note here or there for a second ( i put the sub on my booth output to have separate control over it. On my SX, I had the channel gains around 11 oclock and the master around 12. On my individual channel meters, I didn't hit red once, (and maybe even not even orange) and the mic channel with the loud MC stayed in green all night when. Master level meter never hit 0db...highest it went was -6db.

How high on the EVs, have you guys gone as far as setting the level there? My RCFs, I used to have them up all the way and never had a problem. I dont think the EVs would respond as well to that, but I would think you can easily go past unity and still get that crystal clear sound as well as that high level SPL.

Going through the night though, for bigger rooms I definitely want another yorkville. For this room the 1 was enough (not even limiting), but if I really want to open up the EVs, you need to have at least 2 and probably more like most people said. Again, it was my first gig (and in a smaller room) so I didn't want to or have the need to really push them.

As far as stand alone in full range, they sounded great. Bass was decent with channel EQs all at 0. I think to get more bass using full range, you have to turn up the master, turn down you treb/mid and turn the bass up a little. That's what I did for that size room and for anything other than a sweet 16 I would have just did that. I used to do that on my RCF 312s and they responded well without really limiting so I am sure I could have really bumped up the volume on the EVs and still been ok.

My gig today I am using the venue's sound system, but tomorrow I have a christening that I will be using them in full range without the sub so I can see how it will be there.
For a good test for me to try and get used to the output and that safe zone. I want to set up my RCF on one side and the EV on the other. Set them at the same levels and turn up the gain on the speakers until I get the limit light to turn on on the RCF and then know, I pretty much have 2x more headroom on the EV! :)


Did you run a driverack with this? Do you think you could have used just one EV and one York for either event?
DjCity 8:10 PM - 11 February, 2014
I can answer most of your question Frankie.

As far as the driverack, I have no idea if he used one.
I have a driverack.
In a room that holds 120 people, one yorkville and one zxa5 is enough even without the driverack.

It also depends on the room though and the acoustics of that room. (Carpet, very high ceilings, concrete walls) stuff like that can and will have an effect on your sound but in general, for a average room that holds 120 people, you can get away with one stack and sound Damn good.
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:24 PM - 11 February, 2014
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OK...so I absolutely loved the EVs.

So room holds around 120 people and to start out i just brought in the 2 EVs and to see how it would sound. Had them on full range and they sounded great. I honestly could have probably gotten away with using just them but it was a sweet 16 and kids love bass so i decided to grab the yorkville.

The MC I was working with is pretty loud on the mic and he has said in the past when doing gigs (in bigger rooms) that he thought the mic sounds distorted. I use the SX, but run through a separate mixer for the mic to I get rid of that SX mic issue. With the EVs he said it sounded great. I honestly like the sound of the EVs better than the RCFs. Could be just because they can project better but I was very happy with them. Moving to the back of the room, it sounds like the speakers are right there in front of you.

Being my first gig with them I didn't want to push too much, but they sounded crystal clear all night and I'm sure I had a lot more headroom if needed. I had them set on -3 with the sub at unity. Hardly had the sub hitting limit, maybe a note here or there for a second ( i put the sub on my booth output to have separate control over it. On my SX, I had the channel gains around 11 oclock and the master around 12. On my individual channel meters, I didn't hit red once, (and maybe even not even orange) and the mic channel with the loud MC stayed in green all night when. Master level meter never hit 0db...highest it went was -6db.

How high on the EVs, have you guys gone as far as setting the level there? My RCFs, I used to have them up all the way and never had a problem. I dont think the EVs would respond as well to that, but I would think you can easily go past unity and still get that crystal clear sound as well as that high level SPL.

Going through the night though, for bigger rooms I definitely want another yorkville. For this room the 1 was enough (not even limiting), but if I really want to open up the EVs, you need to have at least 2 and probably more like most people said. Again, it was my first gig (and in a smaller room) so I didn't want to or have the need to really push them.

As far as stand alone in full range, they sounded great. Bass was decent with channel EQs all at 0. I think to get more bass using full range, you have to turn up the master, turn down you treb/mid and turn the bass up a little. That's what I did for that size room and for anything other than a sweet 16 I would have just did that. I used to do that on my RCF 312s and they responded well without really limiting so I am sure I could have really bumped up the volume on the EVs and still been ok.

My gig today I am using the venue's sound system, but tomorrow I have a christening that I will be using them in full range without the sub so I can see how it will be there.
For a good test for me to try and get used to the output and that safe zone. I want to set up my RCF on one side and the EV on the other. Set them at the same levels and turn up the gain on the speakers until I get the limit light to turn on on the RCF and then know, I pretty much have 2x more headroom on the EV! :)


Did you run a driverack with this? Do you think you could have used just one EV and one York for either event?


I was not running a driverack, just plugged into my SX. Do I think I could have gotten away with 1 EV and 1 York. Yes I do, but I think it looks tacky as hell to only bring 1 top. I had plenty of more room to go on the EVs. The room has higher ceilings and is made of brick. Kind of an enclosed patio almost.

For the Yorkville I had it set fully on deep mode with the crossover curve adjust around 100hz if I remember correctly. I hardly had the limit light flash and that was on some bigger bass notes. Otherwise it was just plugging away and you can feel the bass at the back of the room (something I wasn't able do with my RCFs. I could have gotten a lot more SPL by putting the shape on loud if needed.
I will def be picking up another York in the near future for when I have bigger rooms as the 2 would sound amazing with the ZXA.

I think I mentioned, I was in the green on my channel meters as well as master. Never even hit 0db and that was with the EVs set at -3. Joee said he has gone up to +3 on the EVs without a problem. If I did that in the room I was in, you wouldn't even have been able to walk in, as it would have been TOO loud.

Also, the EV projects so well that you get nice even sound even at the back of the dance floor so you don't have to crank the shit out of them for the people in the back to hear it. Very even from the front to the back which is awesome!
Frankie Glasses 9:21 PM - 11 February, 2014
The reason i ask about the driverack is i am planning on just doing 1 ZXA5 and 1 Yorkville. Yes it will look a little odd (not tacky IMO) just having 1 top/1sub combo but for my situation i think it will be ok. I seriously doubt people would even notice or even care.
Anyways, I ordered a driverack for my combo. Do i really even need it since i am just running 1 top 1 sub?
(my york will arrive in a few days with the driverack so havent had the chance to play with it yet) NH NM
pdidy 9:49 PM - 11 February, 2014
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The reason i ask about the driverack is i am planning on just doing 1 ZXA5 and 1 Yorkville. Yes it will look a little odd (not tacky IMO) just having 1 top/1sub combo but for my situation i think it will be ok. I seriously doubt people would even notice or even care.
Anyways, I ordered a driverack for my combo. Do i really even need it since i am just running 1 top 1 sub?

I do the 1 top 1 sub every now and then and nobody cares, it only matters that your not lacking in sound so that will not be an issue with this setup.

"Do i really even need it since i am just running 1 top 1 sub?"
Do you need to use a condom if you only hit it once ?
Do you need car insurance if you don't drive that often ?
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:50 PM - 11 February, 2014
Going forward I think having a driverack will be a great investment for you. But I wouldn't rush setting it up for this gig especially if you aren't going to be running near limiting on the EVs.
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:50 PM - 11 February, 2014
lol
Frankie Glasses 10:13 PM - 11 February, 2014
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The reason i ask about the driverack is i am planning on just doing 1 ZXA5 and 1 Yorkville. Yes it will look a little odd (not tacky IMO) just having 1 top/1sub combo but for my situation i think it will be ok. I seriously doubt people would even notice or even care.
Anyways, I ordered a driverack for my combo. Do i really even need it since i am just running 1 top 1 sub?

I do the 1 top 1 sub every now and then and nobody cares, it only matters that your not lacking in sound so that will not be an issue with this setup.

"Do i really even need it since i am just running 1 top 1 sub?"
Do you need to use a condom if you only hit it once ?
Do you need car insurance if you don't drive that often ?


hahah
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:29 PM - 20 February, 2014
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"Do i really even need it since i am just running 1 top 1 sub?"
Do you need to use a condom if you only hit it once ?
Do you need car insurance if you don't drive that often ?


So you're a definite supported of the DriveRack.

From someone coming from a Passive sound reinforcement background, what can the DriveRack do that a properly trained ear can't?

I understand that it has the presets for the EV's and whatnot, so it may be better at crafting the sound for that individual speaker, but what is it doing that a regular equalizer / limiter / compressor / gate combo can't do?
DjCity 2:33 PM - 20 February, 2014
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"Do i really even need it since i am just running 1 top 1 sub?"
Do you need to use a condom if you only hit it once ?
Do you need car insurance if you don't drive that often ?


So you're a definite supported of the DriveRack.

From someone coming from a Passive sound reinforcement background, what can the DriveRack do that a properly trained ear can't?

I understand that it has the presets for the EV's and whatnot, so it may be better at crafting the sound for that individual speaker, but what is it doing that a regular equalizer / limiter / compressor / gate combo can't do?


I have the driverack and love it.

It has all the components you listed plus a good deal more in a 1 rack space unit.

It does not have presets for the EV's. At least not the zxa5's but tuning by ear and lights is easy enough and you can get stellar results.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:51 PM - 22 February, 2014
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It does not have presets for the EV's. At least not the zxa5's but tuning by ear and lights is easy enough and you can get stellar results.


Really? I thought it did....
Frankie Glasses 11:01 PM - 24 February, 2014
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It does not have presets for the EV's. At least not the zxa5's but tuning by ear and lights is easy enough and you can get stellar results.


Really? I thought it did....


Negative :(
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:00 AM - 25 February, 2014
Learn sumphin' new erry day...
the_black_one 1:19 AM - 25 February, 2014
Has anyone one heard this sub????? Watchwww.youtube.com


nm nh nb
pdidy 3:40 AM - 25 February, 2014
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Learn sumphin' new erry day...

its no problem though, you can just use one of the presets and tweak by ear if required.

Or call ev or go to DBX forum and they will give you the precise settings....
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:24 PM - 27 February, 2014
So I had a wedding this past weekend. 130 people in the same room I had that sweet 16 I posted about. Used just the ZXAs no sub. Was more than enough for the wedding. Had the ZXAs set slightly below 0 and channel/master gains in between 11/12 all night. Had no issues with volume and sound quality at all. The room was at capacity, couldn't fit another table in there if you wanted to, so when the dance floor was packed there were a lot of bodies absorbing sound and it still sounded good in the back of the room. I actually should have put them a tad higher on the speaker stands. The woofer was right about at my head (I am 5'11". I know for next time to just raise them up a tad more. But overall very good and I'm sure I wasn't coming even close to pushing them.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:09 PM - 1 March, 2014
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It does not have presets for the EV's. At least not the zxa5's but tuning by ear and lights is easy enough and you can get stellar results.


Really? I thought it did....


Negative :(


So this is not true ? ->
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Do yours self a favor and go pick up the new driverack pa2... It has a preset for them EV tops ... Money well spent... Thank me later
DjCity 2:14 PM - 1 March, 2014
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It does not have presets for the EV's. At least not the zxa5's but tuning by ear and lights is easy enough and you can get stellar results.


Really? I thought it did....


Negative :(


So this is not true ? ->
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Do yours self a favor and go pick up the new driverack pa2... It has a preset for them EV tops ... Money well spent... Thank me later


I don't know if the new driverack has the presets or not for the EV's.

I will try to look it up.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:19 PM - 1 March, 2014
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I don't know if the new driverack has the presets or not for the EV's.
I will try to look it up.


I looked at the manual...

Doesn't mention anything about the ZXA5's....

BTW, that Break mix is coming.....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:20 PM - 1 March, 2014
adn.harmanpro.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:22 PM - 1 March, 2014
Which again brings up -
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From someone coming from a Passive sound reinforcement background, what can the DriveRack do that a properly trained ear can't?
Joee 2:23 PM - 1 March, 2014
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I looked at the manual...

you read to many manuals ;)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:24 PM - 1 March, 2014
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I looked at the manual...


you read to many manuals ;)


But that's better than getting "WRONG" info from cats on the Interwebs....
Joee 2:24 PM - 1 March, 2014
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Which again brings up -
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From someone coming from a Passive sound reinforcement background, what can the DriveRack do that a properly trained ear can't?

what about the rat mic that magically tuns everything for you?
Joee 2:25 PM - 1 March, 2014
rat= RTA
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:25 PM - 1 March, 2014
ie.
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Do yours self a favor and go pick up the new driverack pa2... It has a preset for them EV tops ... Money well spent... Thank me later
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:26 PM - 1 March, 2014
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Which again brings up -

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From someone coming from a Passive sound reinforcement background, what can the DriveRack do that a properly trained ear can't?


what about the rat mic that magically tuns everything for you?


I haven't used the Driverack, so I don't know how that one would fare, I assume it would tune it to the best of it's ability....but still, that's akin to having a good ear vs. a preset...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:28 PM - 1 March, 2014
So let's sum this up...

The BEST price for these EV's is what?

The BEST place to get these EV's is where?

The BEST stands for these speakers is what?

The BEST covers for these jawns are what?

DriveRack or No DriveRack if you have a tuned ear?
Joee 2:32 PM - 1 March, 2014
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The BEST price for these EV's is what?

about $1,350
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The BEST place to get these EV's is where?

i'd say proudiostar

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The BEST place to get these EV's is where?

The BEST stands for these speakers is what?

The BEST covers for these jawns are what?

DriveRack or No DriveRack if you have a tuned ear?

now your asking to much
Joee 2:37 PM - 1 March, 2014
& just an FYI, while not quit the zxa5 this speakers sound REALLY good
www.musiciansfriend.com

usa.yamaha.com

if the ev was out of reach i would most certainly buy these
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:45 PM - 1 March, 2014
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& just an FYI, while not quit the zxa5 this speakers sound REALLY good

www.musiciansfriend.com

usa.yamaha.com

if the ev was out of reach i would most certainly buy these


No, I've always had a friend who always had Yahmahas "In The Shop"...

Enough people have co-signed the EV's tho...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:47 PM - 1 March, 2014
I think the answer is the Ultimate Stands TS100B's and those Turki Zip jawns...
Joee 2:52 PM - 1 March, 2014
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No, I've always had a friend who always had Yahmahas "In The Shop"...

dxr? them dxf's are nice
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I think the answer is the Ultimate Stands TS100B's and those Turki Zip jawns...

if you know why you asking ,i told you you asking to many questions, are those the air powered stands? you might want to look into --> www.frankenstand.com also
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:52 PM - 1 March, 2014
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No, I've always had a friend who always had Yahmahas "In The Shop"...


dxr? them dxf's are nice

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I think the answer is the Ultimate Stands TS100B's and those Turki Zip jawns...


if you know why you asking ,i told you you asking to many questions, are those the air powered stands? you might want to look into --> www.frankenstand.com also


Yeah, air shock / gas powered....
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:34 PM - 17 March, 2014
So I had my first "Test" with the ZXAs last week. Had a wedding with about 260 people in attendance. 2 ZXAs and 1 LS801pb.
The room is narrow and wide if that makes sense. So I have a short dance floor and the outskirts have tables 5-6 rows deep.

I didn't get out from behind the booth much to listen to how everything sounded, but I know I was not short of volume at all. I had the ZXAs at unit along with the Yorkville.
Channel gains just below noon and I don't think my master volume ever got to noon if I remember correctly.

Sounded great, didn't think I was stressing the ZXAs at all to be honest. Overall they just sound great together. Not that I've had a need to yet (and probably won't for a very long time), but I haven't really opened up the ZXAs to their max. This last wedding was the loudest I have gotten with them so far and they seemed to take it without a problem. For my own sanity though, I want to know where my limit is with feeling comfortable with them before I feel I'm pushing them too much. Is it with the speaker gain at 3 o clock? and same settings on mixer. Not sure yet, but so far I don't think I have been near that point
Joee 8:43 PM - 17 March, 2014
my experience with them and a rane 62..........i could put them @3 o'clock and turn my mixer volume all the way up, as long as nothing is in the red


they will pound all night long with no issues............
Certified Quality Entertainment 9:00 PM - 17 March, 2014
Wow..that's crazy. I don't think I EVER had my mixer all the way up...not even close. I don't think I've even gone past 1-2 on my mixer.
I'm going straight from my SX, So I'm 100% sure the sound coming from your 62 is a lot cleaner and I would certainly be running into the red if I did that on my SX...but I feel confident I could easily go to 3 oclock on speakers and around 1-2 on SX and be out of the red everywhere.
Frankie Glasses 9:01 PM - 17 March, 2014
I had a quinceanera this past weekend. A little over 200 people i would say.
Had a single ZXA5 set to 12 and had a single Yorkville LS801p set at the same. I didnt use a processor and i had the Rane 62 set at 9. I had to back down the sub as it was set in the corner of the room and table in close proximity. At the dancing part i turned the mixer up to about 10-11 position. No problems filling up the room. Sound was full with nice bass.
pdidy 9:35 PM - 17 March, 2014
Certified Quality Entertainment

With your setup, I don't see any reason for you to run your zxa5's @ 3oclock.
For proper gain structure, they should be run at (Unity, 12oclock, 0) OR lower to match your sub output. They should be totally out running your 1 york801p at 3oclock.....
Joee 9:41 PM - 17 March, 2014
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I don't see any reason for you to run your zxa5's @ 3oclock.

there never ever is a reason to run them this loud, all your guest will leave cause the music is to loud

but one day i got to a hall early and turned them up this loud, i wanted to see what they could do & they did it
Certified Quality Entertainment 11:31 PM - 17 March, 2014
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Certified Quality Entertainment

With your setup, I don't see any reason for you to run your zxa5's @ 3oclock.
For proper gain structure, they should be run at (Unity, 12oclock, 0) OR lower to match your sub output. They should be totally out running your 1 york801p at 3oclock.....


Oh totally. I haven't put them up that high. And with it at unity during the wedding the other day I did see the limit light a little on the York. So that was def runny out of juice before the zxas were. I was just speaking hypothetically. They way it sounded this past weekend was the biggest crowd I've played for and it was more than loud enough. If anything I would want a 2nd sub for when I have a long dance floor. But other than that I don't see me turning up the EVs any more than where they are now
Frankie Glasses 7:09 PM - 16 June, 2014
I PM'd this question to a few guys here but wanted to ask publicly....
I have a ZXA5 and when i run full range, at higher volumes, i get noticeable rattling from the cab. I noticed that it was coming from the top, where the 2 parts meet, so i opened it up and put a "homemade gasket" where the 2 parts meet and it helped a little but still notice from other places. Anyone experience this?
pdidy 7:15 PM - 16 June, 2014
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I PM'd this question to a few guys here but wanted to ask publicly....
I have a ZXA5 and when i run full range, at higher volumes, i get noticeable rattling from the cab. I noticed that it was coming from the top, where the 2 parts meet, so i opened it up and put a "homemade gasket" where the 2 parts meet and it helped a little but still notice from other places. Anyone experience this?

No, nerver heard of zxa5s rattling. If they are under 3 yrs old use warranty repair.
Frankie Glasses 7:16 PM - 16 June, 2014
yeah i just got it at the beginning of year. ill check with EV. Just hate sending stuff back and having to wait
pdidy 7:19 PM - 16 June, 2014
Ev has certified repair locations, one May be local to you. Call Ev and find out.
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:45 PM - 16 June, 2014
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I PM'd this question to a few guys here but wanted to ask publicly....

I have a ZXA5 and when i run full range, at higher volumes, i get noticeable rattling from the cab. I noticed that it was coming from the top, where the 2 parts meet, so i opened it up and put a "homemade gasket" where the 2 parts meet and it helped a little but still notice from other places. Anyone experience this?


Funny you mentioned that...I actually just noticed that myself the other day. Most gigs I'm using the EVs high passed with my Yorkville, but I had an outdoor party where I used them full range. Wasn't even loud volume by any means but I heard rattling out of one cab. I noticed some of the screws on the amp plate were a little loose. I tightened those but don't have a screw driver long enough to get the other screws to see if that was the problem. I may look to reach out to a local service center as well. They are just about 6 months old.
 6 7:58 PM - 16 June, 2014
Fail

nm
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:05 PM - 16 June, 2014
LOL

very strange. I actually just sent EV an email. Let's see what comes of it. Not noticeable at all when high passed with subs, but in full range, you can hear it if you are up close or behind the speakers.
Joee 8:27 PM - 16 June, 2014
i've never had any rattling ever, inside the box the only thing that can rattle is the 15" or the horn ,thats the only thing in side the box besides the wires and some dampening foam cloth


the amp is housed in it's own inclosed space

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Joee 8:28 PM - 16 June, 2014
again be sure it's not port noise, the zxa5 makes a lot of port noise so much so that you might think there was something wrong
Taipanic 9:38 PM - 16 June, 2014
I have noticed some issues with mine as well, which I bought used.
Looks like a bad coil on one speaker and I noticed some cutting in and out of partial signal on the other box, maybe a loose connection or issue with the amp.
I have only used these for a few gigs myself, never pushed hard so I am going to assume they were not quite right when I bought them. Both cabs are off to EV for diag and repair.
Frankie Glasses 10:13 PM - 16 June, 2014
I reached out to EV and they suggested that maybe the crossover or the driver is loose. While they don't claim its a common thing, they did mentioned that its happened before.
DjCity 10:52 PM - 30 September, 2014
I have the Yorkville ls801pb's and the Zxa5's.

One of them or both of them are having an issue.

Going from the mixer to the sub then from the sub to the top, I'm losing power coming from the top.
The sub sounds great.

I'm thinking it might be the out on the sub and/or the top is just not loud anymore.

Nothing is blown.

When I go straight to the top from the mixer, sound does not get louder.
From the sub to the top, same low sound from the top.

Jiggling the xlr sometimes gets it louder for a moment.

I have switched cables so that's not the problem.

Anyone else ever have this issue?

For an even sound between sub and top, I have to run the sub at 12:00 and the zxa5 at 3:00.
That's just wrong!
It should be (has been) sub at 12:00 and top at like 9:00.
pdidy 11:17 PM - 30 September, 2014
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Going from the mixer to the sub then from the sub to the top, I'm losing power coming from the top.
The sub sounds great.

Go mixer - top - sub. This should then pin point where the issue possibly is.
DjCity 11:21 PM - 30 September, 2014
Funny..
I've done everything except go from mixer to top to bottom.
I'm having a "duah" moment.

Been sooooooooooooooo long since I've had a "sound" problem.
pdidy 11:21 PM - 30 September, 2014
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Going from the mixer to the sub then from the sub to the top, I'm losing power coming from the top.
The sub sounds great.

Go mixer - top - sub. This should then pin point where the issue possibly is.


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When I go straight to the top from the mixer, sound does not get louder.
From the sub to the top, same low sound from the top.

never mind,

Is the issue the same with both tops or just one ?
DjCity 11:23 PM - 30 September, 2014
Just one stack.
I have both marked with gaf tape so I know which are problem children.
pdidy 11:24 PM - 30 September, 2014
Does your mixer have a left/right pan ?
Joee 11:25 PM - 30 September, 2014
i've never had this issue, weird your woofers are playing? not blown? also your compression drivers are plain? not blown?
pdidy 11:27 PM - 30 September, 2014
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Just one stack.
I have both marked with gaf tape so I know which are problem children.

did you try switching the inputs on left and right stack ? Does the opposite side now have the issue ?
DjCity 11:28 PM - 30 September, 2014
Nothing blown. Compression drivers are great as is the woofer.
The overall volume had dropped on the top.

I just can't tell yet if it's the top or if both are having an issue.

I have to insert the other top to the sub to check.
Also the other sub into the problem top.

I don't feel like going thru alk that to find the problem but I think Imma have to.
DjCity 11:29 PM - 30 September, 2014
@ Diddy

Yeah. It's isolated to those two speakers.
Joee 11:29 PM - 30 September, 2014
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Just one stack.
I have both marked with gaf tape so I know which are problem children.

hook the speakers up to replicate the problem, than switch them left to right & right to left


if you still have the same problem on the same side than it's your wire or mixer, if the problem switches sides than it's your speaker
DjCity 11:30 PM - 30 September, 2014
Switching L to R makes no change. The same stack still has problems.
Joee 11:33 PM - 30 September, 2014
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Switching L to R makes no change. The same stack still has problems.

so theres something wrong with your speaker, play some music and put your ear at the horn make sure it's not blown & do the same with the woofer


were just checking to make sure nothing is blown, if sound comes from the horn and woofer nothing is blown
Joee 11:35 PM - 30 September, 2014
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Yeah. It's isolated to those two speakers.

what two only the zxa5's? do you have any other tops that you can use to check if they play normal?
DjCity 11:37 PM - 30 September, 2014
When I turn the gain on the top up to 3:00, it sound great.
Same sound I used to get at 9:00.

Crisp and clear. Just not enough volume.
DjCity 11:38 PM - 30 September, 2014
I have not tried any other speakers yet.

Good idea joee. Thanks.

Like I said. .. it's been soooooo long since I've had a sound problem.
Joee 11:43 PM - 30 September, 2014
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When I turn the gain on the top up to 3:00, it sound great.
Same sound I used to get at 9:00.

Crisp and clear. Just not enough volume.

with one and not both you said?

if both do you have any other tops that you can verify , that this is a one speaker isolated problem, although you said it only happens with one zxa5? so that may have already answered that question?

still hook up another set of speakers to see that you don't have the same problem
pdidy 11:45 PM - 30 September, 2014
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When I turn the gain on the top up to 3:00, it sound great.
Same sound I used to get at 9:00.

that issue is typical of a bad xlz OR the left / right pan on your mixer is NOT centered.
DjCity 11:47 PM - 30 September, 2014
Hooking a different speaker to the sub will let me know if it's the sub out that's bad or the zxa5.

Don't know why i did not think of that myself. Guess because the Zxa5's are so powerful, the others may not expose the problem.
lol
DjCity 11:49 PM - 30 September, 2014
@ Diddy

A bad zlx yeah but usually not the Zxa5's.
pdidy 11:49 PM - 30 September, 2014
Put serato in internal and mono, what happens ?
desmorider 11:50 PM - 30 September, 2014
Are you mixing bal. and unbal. cables by chance? So you have had only both tops hooked up to your mixer and swapped the cables between the tow speakers, and the problem has stayed with the speaker box? Could be a problem with the onboard crossover.
DjCity 11:55 PM - 30 September, 2014
XLR's only!

Have not had just tops to the mixer.

Going from mixer to the one problem top, the issue presents itself.

Just not sure if it's ONLY the top having the issue because jiggling the xlr at the sub makes it louder but not loud enough.

That's why I think I may have more than one problem child.
Joee 11:57 PM - 30 September, 2014
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jiggling the xlr at the sub makes it louder but not loud enough.

maybe the speaker input/xlr on the speaker
desmorider 11:59 PM - 30 September, 2014
Are both input swiches in the same position?
DjCity 12:00 AM - 1 October, 2014
I'm thinking that is just one problem.

I think it's the xlr out on the sub that has a problem but I'm thinking that the zxa5 had a separate problem cause going from the mixer Straight to the sub does not give more volume.
pdidy 12:01 AM - 1 October, 2014
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Put serato in internal and mono, what happens ?
desmorider 12:04 AM - 1 October, 2014
Go from mixer to both tops to get the sub out of the equation. Two tops to mixer, switch cables and see how it sounds
DjCity 12:04 AM - 1 October, 2014
I only run mono in Serato

What would internal show me?
pdidy 12:07 AM - 1 October, 2014
Remove ALL the xlr from ALL speakers and use the 1/4 input on the problem zxa5 with nothing else hooked up.
pdidy 12:08 AM - 1 October, 2014
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What would internal show me?

it removes any possible issue with input signal.
DjCity 12:11 AM - 1 October, 2014
Ok
Joee 12:18 AM - 1 October, 2014
speakers nerds in affect…….lol

also make sure that you don't have one ev in high pass mode & the other in full range mode
pdidy 12:20 AM - 1 October, 2014
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make sure that you don't have one ev in high pass mode & the other in full range mode

that would be so fucked up if it was that simple.....lol
DjCity 12:23 AM - 1 October, 2014
I wish that were the case.
Even if it were, there would not be such a drastic drop in volume between hi pass and full range.
Joee 12:26 AM - 1 October, 2014
did you verify

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[, play some music and put your ear at the horn make sure it's not blown & do the same with the woofer


were just checking to make sure nothing is blown, if sound comes from the horn and woofer nothing is blown
Joee 12:28 AM - 1 October, 2014
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I wish that were the case.
Even if it were, there would not be such a drastic drop in volume between hi pass and full range.

high pass would lose bass, making the speaker sound lower……run and check….lol

although it's hard to switch it, the switch is so small, still won't hurt to check
DjCity 12:29 AM - 1 October, 2014
I'm playing now.
It's loud, crisp and clear.
Only using one stack (problem stack)

Gain is up to 3:00 for balance with the sub at 12:00.
DjCity 12:30 AM - 1 October, 2014
Green (hi pass) light is on.
pdidy 12:32 AM - 1 October, 2014
you home or at a gig ?
Joee 12:33 AM - 1 October, 2014
just to make you feel better city it could be worse , your zxa5 woofer could look like this

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thats what happens when a non experienced zxa5 user plays on them……lol, that was mine


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Green (hi pass) light is on.


no……play them in full range mode without the sub & see what you get
DjCity 12:33 AM - 1 October, 2014
A gig
pdidy 12:34 AM - 1 October, 2014
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ooooh ok , so you cant just disconnect everything and properly test......lol
DjCity 12:34 AM - 1 October, 2014
All this is happening live at a gig.
Joee 12:36 AM - 1 October, 2014
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you will have to wait till tomorrow to trouble shoot, in the mean time i would turn off the one thats giving you problems & just use the other one……we already know one gets plenty loud

you may have a blown woofer……..when mines went volume dropped
DjCity 12:37 AM - 1 October, 2014
Nope.
Not now.

I first ran into this issue on Saturday night.
Confirmed the issue on sundays gig.

Testing problem children as we speak to be sure this stack is bad.
It's not unplayable bad but there IS a problem.
DjCity 12:38 AM - 1 October, 2014
I'm only playing one stack. The other is in the van.
Joee 12:41 AM - 1 October, 2014
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All this is happening live at a gig.

don't sweat it, rock out with one & trouble shoot tomorrow …….lol

i rocked out with this only one this weekend past cause i wanted to know it's limits
www.rcf.it
Joee 12:42 AM - 1 October, 2014
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I'm only playing one stack. The other is in the van.

i see , run to the van get someone on the mic to hype the crowd while you cange tops ,than play a super banger……..lol
DjCity 12:46 AM - 1 October, 2014
Fuck that!
This joint sound GREAT!
I just had to turn the top way up.
Joee 12:46 AM - 1 October, 2014
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Nope.
Not now.

I first ran into this issue on Saturday night.
Confirmed the issue on sundays gig.

Testing problem children as we speak to be sure this stack is bad.
It's not unplayable bad but there IS a problem.

you know what imma say next……..lol


a professional would have checked this issue at home sunday morning, for real i would have not been able to sleep sunday night if this happened to me, i would have been up at 6am testing to find the problem


not wondering whats going on tuesday night……anyway good luck at you're gig hope the crowd jams & knows nothing of the issues you're having
Joee 12:50 AM - 1 October, 2014
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Fuck that!
This joint sound GREAT!
I just had to turn the top way up.

apparently not…….lol

since you cam here to ask

"DjCity 6:52 PM - 30 September, 2014
I have the Yorkville ls801pb's and the Zxa5's.

One of them or both of them are having an issue.

Going from the mixer to the sub then from the sub to the top, I'm losing power coming from the top.
The sub sounds great.

I'm thinking it might be the out on the sub and/or the top is just not loud anymore.

Nothing is blown.

When I go straight to the top from the mixer, sound does not get louder.
From the sub to the top, same low sound from the top.

Jiggling the xlr sometimes gets it louder for a moment.

I have switched cables so that's not the problem.

Anyone else ever have this issue?

For an even sound between sub and top, I have to run the sub at 12:00 and the zxa5 at 3:00.
That's just wrong!
It should be (has been) sub at 12:00 and top at like 9:00."


that tells me something is wrong……..lol


or maybe them zxa5's just made you def since there so loud, so now you can't here them……lol
DjCity 12:51 AM - 1 October, 2014
Tonight was a live test of my problem children without the good stack interfering.

They going in here!
Sounds great. Only I know something I'd wrong.
pdidy 1:00 AM - 1 October, 2014
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Sounds great. Only I know something I'd wrong.

well thats the best problem to have if you have one....lol
desmorider 1:06 AM - 1 October, 2014
I'd be willing to bet that this problem that he is having is something very simple. Im with you Joee on troubleshooting something the minute I get home from a gig and something didn't work right, even if it's 4am. Many hours spent in the lab opening up cabinets, amps, mixers, soldering cables, etc, etc, etc. I'm anal as shit about shit working right.
Joee 1:06 AM - 1 October, 2014
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Sounds great. Only I know something I'd wrong.

well thats the best problem to have if you have one....lol

the only thing that avatar is missing is…..

a playa playa holding a pimp cup full of henny …….no plastic cup here

….LOL…….
Certified Quality Entertainment 1:25 PM - 1 October, 2014
Interesting to see this issue. I reached out to EV myself as I saw that one of my ZXAs doesn't seem to get as loud as the other. I am going straight from my mixer to each EV and while I don't have to turn it the gain up as much as you are, I did notice it too.

Are you under warranty? The EV customer service have been helpful and said I can bring in to a repair shop. The only thing is that I have to leave it there for a week or 2 and I can't do that with all my gigs lined up. Plus the place is over an hour away.

Curious to see what you find out, but reach out to EV if all of your tests come up with the same result.
Frankie Glasses 6:14 PM - 1 October, 2014
Wow so this makes me think!...
I only have 1 ZXA5 at the present time. I have a Yorkville LS801 to match up with it.
Seeing some of the above posts says that you should run the ZXA5 at around the
9-10 o'clock position and run the LS801 at around 12 o'clock position to match the sound. Well i am running my ZXa5 and the LS801 at the 12 o'clock position to match the sound. I also have some rattling issues. I guess i will be taking this into the shop.
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:00 PM - 1 October, 2014
So somewhat interesting discovery on my side here with all of this speaker volume talk.

I mentioned earlier that I noticed one of my ZXAs a little quieter than the other. I opened it up to see if there was any loose connections or anything, didn't find anything. I snapped a pic of the side of the woofer with the only "EV" branding on it was this sticker I took a picture of. I then looked at picture of what Joee had that he posted above and event though the pictures are at different angles, you can easily tell these are not the same woofers. That got me thinking could I possibly have a refurbished pair with components that shouldn't be in there??
Here is my woofer:
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Joee's woofer:
i209.photobucket.com

What do you guys think??
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:00 PM - 1 October, 2014
Sorry for the double post...not sure what happened there.
Joee 8:14 PM - 1 October, 2014
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So somewhat interesting discovery on my side here with all of this speaker volume talk.

I mentioned earlier that I noticed one of my ZXAs a little quieter than the other. I opened it up to see if there was any loose connections or anything, didn't find anything. I snapped a pic of the side of the woofer with the only "EV" branding on it was this sticker I took a picture of. I then looked at picture of what Joee had that he posted above and event though the pictures are at different angles, you can easily tell these are not the same woofers. That got me thinking could I possibly have a refurbished pair with components that shouldn't be in there??
Here is my woofer:
i209.photobucket.com

Joee's woofer:
i209.photobucket.com

What do you guys think??

I've seen this woofer before, my boy bought one the magnet definitely is different but the cast frame of the woofer is the same maybe they just use a different magnet


you can see in you're pic that it's a genuine ev speaker from the serial number sticker
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:25 PM - 1 October, 2014
But it can be possible that the woofer isn't the same spec as yours. It may be an EV woofer and doesn't perform the same as the one that was in your box.

That serial number can be from anything though, someone can throw an "EV" sticker on it and make up random numbers if they want.
Joee 8:29 PM - 1 October, 2014
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But it can be possible that the woofer isn't the same spec as yours. It may be an EV woofer and doesn't perform the same as the one that was in your box.

That serial number can be from anything though, someone can throw an "EV" sticker on it and make up random numbers if they want.

he bought this woofer --> reconingspeakers.com

& got the same one you have
Joee 8:31 PM - 1 October, 2014
e mail ev with the pics, take a pic of yours top view like mine send them the pics asking why are these two different they both came out of a evzxa5 , see what they say
Joee 8:32 PM - 1 October, 2014
i will say mines says dvx 3150 on the speaker the one with the different magnet did not
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:34 PM - 1 October, 2014
Yea, I already sent them an email. I have to take my speaker apart again to get the other view. Don't have time to do that right now. Maybe sometime next week. Ill see.

Seems strange to me.
Joee 8:40 PM - 1 October, 2014
i wouldn't worry to much maybe they just switch the magnet structure, my ev's were purchased right when the zxa5 was released that was some time ago
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:47 PM - 1 October, 2014
Maybe...still reached out to EV to get their feedback on it.
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:03 PM - 9 October, 2014
So after some back and forth with EV, they are paying for me to ship my speakers to them and they will do a rush "repair" and rush them back. Turn around time should be under a week.

I did sent pics of both woofers to them and they did say that the sticker on my woofer was an authentic EV sticker, however they were a little puzzled by the fact that the woofer was different.

Great customer service so far!
Joee 5:14 PM - 9 October, 2014
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I did sent pics of both woofers to them and they did say that the sticker on my woofer was an authentic EV sticker, however they were a little puzzled by the fact that the woofer was different.

keep posted on this, hopefully the person just didn't know that they stared using different magnets
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:29 PM - 9 October, 2014
Maybe. Either way they are looking at them for me because I did feel that one was lower than the other when playing the same song at the same level.

Happy with the customer service. Picked up a pair of great condition ZLX15s with covers for $600 yesterday so at least I have backup in case they do take longer than a week to return.
Joee 5:33 PM - 9 October, 2014
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Happy with the customer service. Picked up a pair of great condition ZLX15s with covers for $600 yesterday so at least I have backup in case they do take longer than a week to return.

the ev covers? thats a good deal, don't expect anything close to zxa5 performance ….lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:43 PM - 9 October, 2014
Yes with the EV covers. I did good. I have a single RCF Art312 I am looking to get rid of (as I only had 1), so I plan to sell that for around $300 give or take, so I got a pair of decent speakers with covers for around $300. Can't beat that.

Def not looking for output near my ZXAs...these are for small parties (under 75ppl in small rooms), backup just in case, ceremony, cocktail hour, etc...

One catering hall I work with a lot has a room that can hold like 60 ppl...no need to bring the ZXAs for that. The ZLX will be perfect for those applications.
pdidy 5:43 PM - 9 October, 2014
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the ev covers? thats a good deal, don't expect anything close to zxa5 performance ….lol

It takes about 4 zlx15's to = 1 zxa5 in output so is it a coincidence that 4 zlx15's @ $1600 cost the same as 1 zxa5 ? hmmm.
Joee 5:46 PM - 9 October, 2014
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i can't help but feel like you're talking to me…….lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:48 PM - 9 October, 2014
hahahaha
pdidy 5:56 PM - 9 October, 2014
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i can't help but feel like you're talking to me…….lol

i have 2 zxa5 im ready to sell, it sound crazy to say that....lol
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:58 PM - 9 October, 2014
I know...I saw you had them posted on craigslist. I figured you sold them because I didn't see them up for a while. Did you get any bites?
Joee 6:04 PM - 9 October, 2014
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i have 2 zxa5 im ready to sell, it sound crazy to say that....lol

i will be doing the same IF the 745's sound as good or better….don't know if you seen but i got a price of $1,269
pdidy 6:04 PM - 9 October, 2014
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I know...I saw you had them posted on craigslist. I figured you sold them because I didn't see them up for a while. Did you get any bites?

nope, i thought that was rather odd. but im sure if i put some real effort into it they would sell.
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:09 PM - 9 October, 2014
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i have 2 zxa5 im ready to sell, it sound crazy to say that....lol


i will be doing the same IF the 745's sound as good or better….don't know if you seen but i got a price of $1,269


Where did you get that price? Have you heard them yet?
Certified Quality Entertainment 6:10 PM - 9 October, 2014
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I know...I saw you had them posted on craigslist. I figured you sold them because I didn't see them up for a while. Did you get any bites?


nope, i thought that was rather odd. but im sure if i put some real effort into it they would sell.


Probably. Where were you in the beginning of the year...I would have bought them!
pdidy 6:10 PM - 9 October, 2014
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i have 2 zxa5 im ready to sell, it sound crazy to say that....lol

i will be doing the same IF the 745's sound as good or better….don't know if you seen but i got a price of $1,269

yes i saw it,

i predict the 745 will win in sound quality and speaker protection (no external limiter required) but the zxa5 will win in output by at least 3db.
Joee 6:15 PM - 9 October, 2014
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i have 2 zxa5 im ready to sell, it sound crazy to say that....lol


i will be doing the same IF the 745's sound as good or better….don't know if you seen but i got a price of $1,269


Where did you get that price? Have you heard them yet?

a rcf vender i want to make sure a buy them before i put it out there……yes but only on high pass mode not full range

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but the zxa5 will win in output by at least 3db.

thats a big difference ,time will tell
pdidy 6:22 PM - 9 October, 2014
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i have 2 zxa5 im ready to sell, it sound crazy to say that....lol


i will be doing the same IF the 745's sound as good or better….don't know if you seen but i got a price of $1,269


Where did you get that price? Have you heard them yet?

a rcf vender i want to make sure a buy them before i put it out there……yes but only on high pass mode not full range

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but the zxa5 will win in output by at least 3db.

thats a big difference ,time will tell

but it would be nice to have a NEW king of speakers......
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:08 PM - 14 October, 2014
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So after some back and forth with EV, they are paying for me to ship my speakers to them and they will do a rush "repair" and rush them back. Turn around time should be under a week.



I did sent pics of both woofers to them and they did say that the sticker on my woofer was an authentic EV sticker, however they were a little puzzled by the fact that the woofer was different.



Great customer service so far!


Quick update. Sent speakers back yesterday via the UPS next day air shipping labels provided by EV, they should get them today, Should have an answer back by tomorrow and have them on their way back to me before the weekend! :)

I did use the pair of ZLX15s I bought for a small 100 person wedding I did on Saturday afternoon. Used them full range with no sub. They were OK. Obviously not earth shattering volume, but they stayed clear when hitting the limiter every now and then. Only saw the clip light once when I was testing them out to see how loud they go, but never got that loud during the party. I'm sure with a sub they will get a little louder, so I would say that you can go up to about 125-150 ppl with a sub (depending on the room), but not more than that. If you are in a bigger room though, I think you need better speakers. I do think that my RCF ART312s did have more output before hitting the limiters than the ZLX does. But getting a pair of ZLX15s with covers for $600 was a good deal for what I needed them for.
Joee 5:54 PM - 14 October, 2014
i'm curious to know about the different woofer in the zxa5?
Certified Quality Entertainment 5:59 PM - 14 October, 2014
Me too. Shall find out soon and will keep you posted.
Frankie Glasses 7:21 PM - 27 October, 2014
Just wanted to share this with the ZXA5 owners...
I had reported a while back here that i had some rattling going on on my ZXA5. Well it seemed to get worse to the point that the woofer sounded distorted when in full range mode.
I must have opened up that speaker 4 times looking for any possible issues. Which i found none.
I decided to take it into a local EV authorized repair facility. They hooked it up really quick to a frequency tester and immediately said that it sounded like the woofer was the issue. Said to give it a week to repair.
Called in a week later and they said that woofer was fine but that the foam that is glued on the grill was pulling apart from the grill, essentially flapping back and forth and this was causing the distorted sound. The rattling was caused by the XLR input connector.
Speaker sounds great again!
Joee 7:26 PM - 27 October, 2014
insulation foam was the problem? weird... i would have never thought fabric would make the speaker sound bad, maybe they should start using foam & not cloth
Taipanic 2:37 PM - 28 October, 2014
I had the foam doing that also, I used some 3M fabric spray glue to reattach. I was also having other rattling sounds, speaker ended up in two shops. First shop said things just needed to be tightened up, only thing that resolved was removing $200 from my wallet. Took the speaker where it should have went in the first place (long story) and they had to recone the woofer. Problem appears to be resolved, will find out this weekend when they at volume for an extended time. Speaker was rattling only at certain frequencies and there were no visible signs of damage to the cone (tears, foam deterioration, etc...)
Taipanic 2:40 PM - 28 October, 2014
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insulation foam was the problem? weird... i would have never thought fabric would make the speaker sound bad, maybe they should start using foam & not cloth


When the fabric loosens up by the bass ports on the bottom, the massive amount of air that driver moves at volume makes it vibrate at a frequency that sounds like a torn speaker cone.
Joee 2:44 PM - 28 October, 2014
it might be worth while to get rid of the cloth style/insulation type fabric imageshack.com & put real foam, i had a look at the inside of my rcf's & they had real foam for dampening not cloth