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VH1 Master Of The Mix

djkurve 3:45 AM - 2 April, 2013
I know a lot of yinz watched this tonight. Thoughts?
Dj Nyce 4:07 AM - 2 April, 2013
alot of cats on there was garbage. some where just unbearable to watch. and the judges...aside from kid capri...who?!
lotty 4:11 AM - 2 April, 2013
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alot of cats on there was garbage. some where just unbearable to watch. and the judges...aside from kid capri...who?!


Agree, BUT, and please don't hate me, the ipad kid was nice to me considering he was making use of the ipad, and serato effects. Most of the other DJ's were not making use of the technology that serato is able to do.
djkurve 4:12 AM - 2 April, 2013
My thoughts exactly on the judges Nyce. And the kid who just rocked an iPad.... *SMH*
djkurve 4:15 AM - 2 April, 2013
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alot of cats on there was garbage. some where just unbearable to watch. and the judges...aside from kid capri...who?!


Agree, BUT, and please don't hate me, the ipad kid was nice to me considering he was making use of the ipad, and serato effects. Most of the other DJ's were not making use of the technology that serato is able to do.



It's a nice "accessory" with Serato, but your not going to win a DJ competition with just an iPad. Like Kid Capri said tonight, "YOU WERE LOOKING AT YOUR LAPTOP THE WHOLE TIME!!"
Joshua Carl 4:18 AM - 2 April, 2013
It's Smirnoff
Nuff said...
3 min sets, we saw maybe 15 seconds of each...
We all know the show has to be watchable for the general public, but for us, it's like watching some editors recap of a battle you couldn't goto.


I hope the guys on the show exploit them for everything they can to get what they deserve out of the dj game...


I was wondering though, it gotta be tough for a pioneer and cdj guy (you saw some people looking at the 62 like it was their first time seeing it)
Should be interesting to say the least
lotty 4:19 AM - 2 April, 2013
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alot of cats on there was garbage. some where just unbearable to watch. and the judges...aside from kid capri...who?!


Agree, BUT, and please don't hate me, the ipad kid was nice to me considering he was making use of the ipad, and serato effects. Most of the other DJ's were not making use of the technology that serato is able to do.



It's a nice "accessory" with Serato, but your not going to win a DJ competition with just an iPad. Like Kid Capri said tonight, "YOU WERE LOOKING AT YOUR LAPTOP THE WHOLE TIME!!"


True, but he was still better then a lot of the DJ's.
Joshua Carl 4:22 AM - 2 April, 2013
Like they said though, if your gonna show up with "the future" you better do some next level shit
A few tracks at 128bpms and working the filters and effects

He could have easily put records on, used the iPad just the same and they probably wouldn't have been so "oh it's the iPad guy"
But, I understand the "no turntables needed" was the trick that got em on the show
djkurve 4:25 AM - 2 April, 2013
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Like they said though, if your gonna show up with "the future" you better do some next level shit
A few tracks at 128bpms and working the filters and effects

He could have easily put records on, used the iPad just the same and they probably wouldn't have been so "oh it's the iPad guy"
But, I understand the "no turntables needed" was the trick that got em on the show


+1
djkurve 4:28 AM - 2 April, 2013
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It's Smirnoff
Nuff said...
3 min sets, we saw maybe 15 seconds of each...
We all know the show has to be watchable for the general public, but for us, it's like watching some editors recap of a battle you couldn't goto.


I hope the guys on the show exploit them for everything they can to get what they deserve out of the dj game...

Kinda wish they would upload each DJ's full set on the website. Def would like to see a few of the DJ's whole routine. Jayceeoh, Royale, Dynamix, Vajra

I was wondering though, it gotta be tough for a pioneer and cdj guy (you saw some people looking at the 62 like it was their first time seeing it)
Should be interesting to say the least
djkurve 4:29 AM - 2 April, 2013
Oppps I meant the DJ formerly known as Vajra...Chris Karns
Joshua Carl 4:31 AM - 2 April, 2013
Looks like he was heated on the next episode preview
the_black_one 4:36 AM - 2 April, 2013
waiting for pete!!!!!!!!!
pdidy 4:54 AM - 2 April, 2013
i missed the show, is it being aired online somewhere ?
Joshua Carl 5:00 AM - 2 April, 2013
Knowing vh1 it will be on quite a few times this week, check you dvr!!!
djkurve 5:02 AM - 2 April, 2013
Plus whenever they get around to it, the episodes will be on their website.

www.smirnoff.com
DJ'Que 5:43 AM - 2 April, 2013
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Oppps I meant the DJ formerly known as Vajra...Chris Karns
thats what we la dj's have to go thru terrible dj's like that and they sound just like that in clubs. I was looking and was like wait that vajra
cl8ud 10:38 AM - 2 April, 2013
So apparently thus is the 3rd season. I've thank my insomnia for showing me this jewel but you'd think if they were trying to appeal to anyone but the crap induced public, they might have tried to get video editors who at least understand basic beat matching, to give the home audience a tiny chance of hearing the talent the producers may have prematurely tossed out due to improper application of hair product or what.the.fluff.ever.
A previous contributor mentioned the idea of having full sets posted. If only! I do truly wish that would happen. Unfortunately, in this lovely age we jive (auto correct from "live", so I'll leave it, of course) in, Everyone's a DJ, so either the opposing critiques would shut down the interwebs or, perhaps, common folk would get a glimpse of what actually goes down when they are poured a shot of ear juice that melts them to oblivion that just can't be recaptured by the nonstop 4 on the floor-esqe dubbbbabee garbage squeezed into every track on any genre radio station and/or "decks" in the club these days.
DJ Ness Nice 10:53 AM - 2 April, 2013
Just got done watching... the competition was pretty weak. outta the 12 they picked, its about half and half.. half know what they doin the other half, not so much..
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:24 AM - 2 April, 2013
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Oppps I meant the DJ formerly known as Vajra...Chris Karns

Wasnt that the dj from judge judy??
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:26 AM - 2 April, 2013
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My thoughts exactly on the judges Nyce. And the kid who just rocked an iPad.... *SMH*

He was the smartest one on the show...youll see him sponsored by apple soon with brand new equipment as soon as it hits the market free of charge
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:11 PM - 2 April, 2013
Didn't see the show, but I TRULY think Kid Capri is trying to put some DJ's ON who are not getting shine....

And I CAN'T be mad at that...

If you think about it, DJ Scratch has been out there pretty tough since the show and all.
ral 12:57 PM - 2 April, 2013
they just got i-dee'ed !!! lol
SELECT 1:27 PM - 2 April, 2013
There are a lot of dope and very established Djs on there this season as well as a ton of delusional peeps. They definitely put on some of those people to make the show more interesting as with any other VH1 reality show. I mean how many of us could not wait to see the ipad guy do his thing lol. Too bad we couldnt see anyone really perform. Hopefully we can see some full sets soon.
DJ ST 2:19 PM - 2 April, 2013
Did Excel (not that girl eXeL, but the one from Philly/Skratch Makaniks) get a pass?
DJ ST 2:31 PM - 2 April, 2013
Oh wait, just checked Twitter-feeds, apparently she thought she was the only DJ called Excel (eXeL, in this case) in USA. Shake My Head, heavily...
VDJ ASTRO 2:41 PM - 2 April, 2013
Well there was two djs from here in Vegas, hope to see them Represent
DJ DECK 2:52 PM - 2 April, 2013
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they just got i-dee'ed !!! lol


I knew something wasn't right. LoL
Robbie O 2:54 PM - 2 April, 2013
They are streaming the full set. Wayyyyy more informative than what the show displays. I respect what some tried to do. www.iheart.com I think it is streaming only. Goes again at 6pm est.
Joshua Carl 2:58 PM - 2 April, 2013
^^^ good info!!!

Even my wife said, I can't tell anything that they are doin...it's all snippets
Robbie O 3:10 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Even my wife said, I can't tell anything that they are doin...it's all snippets

+1
Its sad that they couldn't even try to show the snippets some what on beat. They should put their sets on soundcloud.
djdalite 3:22 PM - 2 April, 2013
Had a viewing party in Orlando last night that dr Dawe put on, a lot of local Djs came out and showed support which was cool. Only caught the very end of the episode, I'm sure the show sucks bad like all the other ones did but hey it's a great move as far as cred goes, also Chics see you on tv and drop panties
Joshua Carl 3:29 PM - 2 April, 2013
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, also Chics see you on tv and drop panties


And at the end of the day, does anything else even matter?
VDJ ASTRO 3:29 PM - 2 April, 2013
also Chics see you on tv and drop panties

Or drop your contracts and burn your name cause they saw the outlined mistakes that were edited

I hope some of the Dj's that I saw really don't sound like that other wise they need a reality check not a reality show.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 3:31 PM - 2 April, 2013
Man..... season 3 and they still won't bring me on the show as a tech expert.... smh.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:32 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Man..... season 3 and they still won't bring me on the show as a tech expert.... smh.


lol...

You better get your iPod skills up...
VDJ ASTRO 3:32 PM - 2 April, 2013
Where are the other two seasons I've never seen this before
Rane, Support
Chad S. 3:33 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Man..... season 3 and they still won't bring me on the show as a tech expert.... smh.


lol...

You better get your iPod skills up...


I'm telling you, I'd be like the Noid and be renaming _Serato_ folders before their set. It would be great TV. muhahahah
VDJ ASTRO 3:34 PM - 2 April, 2013
The only Dj show I've seen was Pauly D's and I stopped watching after the first five minutes
Joshua Carl 3:38 PM - 2 April, 2013
There was general animosity towards the first 2 seasons as well. Just ask Revolution

(Ooooooooooooh!)

You should be able to find highlights online
A good one is where Rev comes back as a guest judge and it gets a Lil wild.
djpuma_gemini 4:14 PM - 2 April, 2013
What someone should have done was bring an apple remote and when they started spinning hit the play button so it opens up their itunes and screws with the sets.
SELECT 4:19 PM - 2 April, 2013
What someone should have done is bring out some real vinyl records to see who can and cant mix.
Joshua Carl 4:26 PM - 2 April, 2013
^^^ a few peeps did that at red bull this year.
Someone will EVENTUALLY do it on the show.
VDJ ASTRO 4:37 PM - 2 April, 2013
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What someone should have done was bring an apple remote and when they started spinning hit the play button so it opens up their itunes and screws with the sets.


That's messed up bro but thanks for the alert
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:48 PM - 2 April, 2013
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What someone should have done is bring out some real vinyl records to see who can and cant mix.

Rofl??
Funkytownstopsix 4:53 PM - 2 April, 2013
Well since they are allowing an Ipod it shouldn't be long before we have a vj masters of the mix.... Now that would be a site to see....There are dj's on this forum that would smash in that arena. People have no clue really what a vj could really do,,,, but when they do!!!!! : )
But that will most likely never happen because of copywriters when using clips from movies.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:03 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Well since they are allowing an Ipod it shouldn't be long before we have a vj masters of the mix.... Now that would be a site to see....There are dj's on this forum that would smash in that arena. People have no clue really what a vj could really do,,,, but when they do!!!!! : )
But that will most likely never happen because of copywriters when using clips from movies.



I think they should recruit guys from the forum to talk shit to the djs, give the public a taste of real dj culture, capris may be a dj legend but my track record of garnishing attention by throwing out baseless critisim speaks for itself
Joshua Carl 5:05 PM - 2 April, 2013
Watchwww.youtube.com

"Hater section"
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:07 PM - 2 April, 2013
Could you imagine the ratings if there was a special 2 part episode where jayceeo argues with capris over who hes dating then revolution shows up to make fun of his name


It would be the highest rated show in tv if the cintestants could clown the judges
SELECT 5:48 PM - 2 April, 2013
DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.
djkurve 5:57 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.



iPad DJ played house-ish kind of music, right?
djkurve 5:58 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Well since they are allowing an Ipod it shouldn't be long before we have a vj masters of the mix.... Now that would be a site to see....There are dj's on this forum that would smash in that arena. People have no clue really what a vj could really do,,,, but when they do!!!!! : )
But that will most likely never happen because of copywriters when using clips from movies.



+100 !!!
SELECT 6:09 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.



iPad DJ played house-ish kind of music, right?


Right and the nerve to name yourself after DJ AM. He should be ready to play everything!
djransom 6:12 PM - 2 April, 2013
Did anyone on the board try out for this show?
Funkytownstopsix 6:19 PM - 2 April, 2013
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alot of cats on there was garbage. some where just unbearable to watch. and the judges...aside from kid capri...who?!

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^
VDJ ASTRO 6:29 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.



iPad DJ played house-ish kind of music, right?


Right and the nerve to name yourself after DJ AM. He should be ready to play everything!


Yeah I did hear him say that he was inspired by Dj AM, and I do remember Dj AM tearing it up on hip-hop is this the same Dj AM or is there a house Dj AM?
Mr. Goodkat 6:30 PM - 2 April, 2013
best twitter


''don't know whats worse being told you suck by kid capri or someone who djs with a violinist''
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:33 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.



iPad DJ played house-ish kind of music, right?


Right and the nerve to name yourself after DJ AM. He should be ready to play everything!



Theres a million DJ PMs out there
SELECT 6:36 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Yeah I did hear him say that he was inspired by Dj AM, and I do remember Dj AM tearing it up on hip-hop is this the same Dj AM or is there a house Dj AM?


AM played everything. There are enough youtube videos out there, pick one.

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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.



iPad DJ played house-ish kind of music, right?


Right and the nerve to name yourself after DJ AM. He should be ready to play everything!



Theres a million DJ PMs out there


Lol, true..
Robbie O 6:38 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Yeah I did hear him say that he was inspired by Dj AM, and I do remember Dj AM tearing it up on hip-hop is this the same Dj AM or is there a house Dj AM?


Dude was just embarrassed...Knowing he bombed on the first day and thinking about coming back to the jokes of his boys probably irritated him.

I listened to his full set earlier today (comes on again at 6pm) and he started off strong but went wayyy left and downhill after that. kinda a bad open format approach. jumping from genre to genre... no flow and probably trying too hard. no excuses he deserved to go home
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:39 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.

I wander what kinda music this guy normally plays?
Cisco El Nino 6:41 PM - 2 April, 2013
can any tell me WTF happened wth I-Dee? They made him look so bad, especially with that video editing
SELECT 6:43 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.

I wander what kinda music this guy normally plays?


Hes a house Dj/producer. Sucks tho when you enter battles and are hit with unexpected stuff. It happens, but thats what you gotta be ready for.
SELECT 6:44 PM - 2 April, 2013
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can any tell me WTF happened wth I-Dee? They made him look so bad, especially with that video editing


I DEE got skills. From what I seen he wasnt used to the 62 mixer. He clearly couldnt hear what he was cueing up.
Joshua Carl 6:49 PM - 2 April, 2013
2 hours ago they put up the "meet ______" videos

www.youtube.com
skinnyguy 6:58 PM - 2 April, 2013
you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:59 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.

I wander what kinda music this guy normally plays?


Hes a house Dj/producer.


U sure? Lol
DJ Ness Nice 7:13 PM - 2 April, 2013
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.


Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..
Rane, Support
Chad S. 7:14 PM - 2 April, 2013
previews for the second episode got me shook. CK, where you going?
djkurve 7:17 PM - 2 April, 2013
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previews for the second episode got me shook. CK, where you going?



youtu.be
Mr. Goodkat 7:18 PM - 2 April, 2013
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.


Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..


djin didnt come from hip hop.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:19 PM - 2 April, 2013
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previews for the second episode got me shook. CK, where you going?

......SMH
Mr. Goodkat 7:20 PM - 2 April, 2013
why mia moretti so weirdly happy all the time.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:25 PM - 2 April, 2013
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DJ PM Elimination interview- www.youtube.com

Smh.. I mean you know what kind of competition this is.

I wander what kinda music this guy normally plays?


Hes a house Dj/producer. Sucks tho when you enter battles and are hit with unexpected stuff. It happens, but thats what you gotta be ready for.


Was anyone else annoyed with the way that chick was talkin to him "well to be the master if the mix you gotta.." bitch wheres YOUR mixtape
DJ Ness Nice 7:40 PM - 2 April, 2013
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.


Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..


djin didnt come from hip hop.


The type if djing the show and i am referring too.. You dont win dj contest just playing songs.. That called a song playing contest..
Mr. Goodkat 7:42 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Joshua Carl 7:55 PM - 2 April, 2013
There's a reason why the have mix-offs and Battles.
but if you show up to a battle and mix 3 songs masterfully, creatively, using acapellas, effects and creating transitions... dont expect to place.

Its like showing up to Talledega with a Baja Racing Car.

but, if like PM eluded in that interview... they told him he could do his thing, then pulled the rug out before he went on stage....Thats fucked up.
The Ipad dude didnt play hiphop.... and like he said "I played mixed through 4 songs and kid capri thought it was only 1"
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:03 PM - 2 April, 2013
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but, if like PM eluded in that interview... they told him he could do his thing, then pulled the rug out before he went on stage....Thats fucked up.

That sounds about right for reality tv
Mr. Goodkat 8:13 PM - 2 April, 2013
what i cant understand is why, if you have a mix/battle show, you know you are going on, probably had to fly there, even if you are a house/polka/zouk/zydeco djs, why would you not preplan a set of hits? even if you dont know the songs, ask a friend or the ssl forum what to play(maybe not the ssl forum), or just watch youtube. it shows how noob teh djs are.
DJ DisGrace 8:15 PM - 2 April, 2013
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but, if like PM eluded in that interview... they told him he could do his thing, then pulled the rug out before he went on stage....Thats fucked up.

That sounds about right for reality tv

+1 would be hella boring otherwise
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:16 PM - 2 April, 2013
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what i cant understand is why, if you have a mix/battle show, you know you are going on, probably had to fly there, even if you are a house/polka/zouk/zydeco djs, why would you not preplan a set of hits? even if you dont know the songs, ask a friend or the ssl forum what to play(maybe not the ssl forum), or just watch youtube. it shows how noob teh djs are.

.....because the producers told him he could rock it how he rocks it, if you were a scratch dj heading to the dmcs would you gi outta your way to make sure you had some pitbul?
VDJ ASTRO 8:46 PM - 2 April, 2013
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.



I did notice that every one is trying to impress Kid Capri and a lot of the djs are loosing focus of doing them selves rock it like they normally would but instead I think they are in the back talking to each other changing stuff up last minute and i, imagine the back sounding like a Serato thread lol...
the_black_one 8:50 PM - 2 April, 2013
Impress kids capris..... LMFAO!!! You silly..... you have to be from the tri state area to impress or even understand the greatness that is kids capris. He is the master and crowd control and a genius and making people remember songs that have never heard!!
the_black_one 8:53 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Impress kids capris..... LMFAO!!! You silly..... you have to be from the tri state area to impress him or even understand the greatness that is kids capris. He is the master of crowd control and a genius at making people remember songs that have never heard!!



Fix my spelling (nm nh)
Dj Shamann 8:53 PM - 2 April, 2013
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if you were a scratch dj heading to the dmcs would you gi outta your way to make sure you had some pitbul?



No because history speaks for itself. MOTM is 3rd season in, and people haven't figured it out yet? If I was flying out there and going through all that trouble, I think I'd watch an episode or two before showing up.
Mr. Goodkat 8:54 PM - 2 April, 2013
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what i cant understand is why, if you have a mix/battle show, you know you are going on, probably had to fly there, even if you are a house/polka/zouk/zydeco djs, why would you not preplan a set of hits? even if you dont know the songs, ask a friend or the ssl forum what to play(maybe not the ssl forum), or just watch youtube. it shows how noob teh djs are.

.....because the producers told him he could rock it how he rocks it, if you were a scratch dj heading to the dmcs would you gi outta your way to make sure you had some pitbul?


i would have every type of pop music i thought would be present in a dj show, ala a edm set, a hip hop(new and old) set, a pop set(classics, new, classics and new). the older i get the more embarrassed/frustrated i get over tiny mistakes.

I figured out a long time ago practice is equal to studying in school, the difference is you get a f and nobody sees it, you mess up in dj wise and everybody hears it. i get embarrassed over a couple mistakes that no one hears in a club, much less millions on tv.
djdalite 8:59 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Did anyone on the board try out for this show?

Jayceeoh
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:59 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Impress kids capris..... LMFAO!!! You silly..... you have to be from the tri state area to impress or even understand the greatness that is kids capris. He is the master and crowd control and a genius and making people remember songs that have never heard!!

HOT FYAHH MASTER IF THE MIX SEASIN TWO WHO REMEMBERS THAT ONE.....ANYONE....noone huh
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:00 PM - 2 April, 2013
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if you were a scratch dj heading to the dmcs would you gi outta your way to make sure you had some pitbul?



No because history speaks for itself. MOTM is 3rd season in, and people haven't figured it out yet? If I was flying out there and going through all that trouble, I think I'd watch an episode or two before showing up.

I wouldnt that shows horrible lol
the_black_one 9:01 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Impress kids capris..... LMFAO!!! You silly..... you have to be from the tri state area to impress or even understand the greatness that is kids capris. He is the master and crowd control and a genius and making people remember songs that have never heard!!

HOT FYAHH MASTER IF THE MIX SEASIN TWO WHO REMEMBERS THAT ONE.....ANYONE....noone huh


ANYONE???? SOMEONE???? ANYBODY?????

***** cue in good times.... everyone remembers good times****
 6 9:06 PM - 2 April, 2013
Where's Pete? lol

nm
the_black_one 9:10 PM - 2 April, 2013
When did good times become phsco? Oh yes... i remember..... it was PETE!!! LOL (nm nh)
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:15 PM - 2 April, 2013
DJ Michael Basic 9:32 PM - 2 April, 2013
I'm rooting for the homie Dynamix to take it all. My guess is it's between him and Jayceeoh.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:50 PM - 2 April, 2013
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I'm rooting for the homie Dynamix to take it all. My guess is it's between him and Jayceeoh.

Cosign
damehype 10:00 PM - 2 April, 2013
Don't rule out Incrediboi. He's dope also. From the same group of folks that Mell Starr hangs.
If Karns hangs around the show, I'd say he is a fav
DJ Michael Basic 10:06 PM - 2 April, 2013
Vajra is probably the dopest DJ on there skill wise...but it was a classic case of a DMC dude not being able to translate what he does to a club-style battle.

If I had skills like that, I'd have done a little bit of trick mixing and dropping some dope records for the first 2:30, and then cut it up for 30 seconds to show versatility. Mixing records is easy. Dropping dope records is easy, Vajra is in a class of his own when it comes to the scratching, if he showed he could do it all, he'd be the favorite. Instead, Dynamix did exactly that.
VDJ ASTRO 10:33 PM - 2 April, 2013
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This guy should be up there I like this crowd control better than Kid Capri (" No Diss") just matter of taste IMO.
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:50 PM - 2 April, 2013
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This guy should be up there I like this crowd control better than Kid Capri (" No Diss") just matter of taste IMO.

co muthafukin sign
VDJ ASTRO 10:54 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Dj-M.Bezzle 10:59 PM - 2 April, 2013
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This guy should be up there I like this crowd control better than Kid Capri (" No Diss") just matter of taste IMO.

co muthafukin sign



Why you mad bro?

whose mad, im agreeing that flipside is dope, hes one of the few djs i can watch and he never lets me down!! Hes up there with vice in people whos style i try to emulate\vids i learn things from
VDJ ASTRO 11:12 PM - 2 April, 2013
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This guy should be up there I like this crowd control better than Kid Capri (" No Diss") just matter of taste IMO.

co muthafukin sign



Why you mad bro?

whose mad, im agreeing that flipside is dope, hes one of the few djs i can watch and he never lets me down!! Hes up there with vice in people whos style i try to emulate\vids i learn things from


Lol my bad now you should b mad cause I didn't get the reply , but yeah this Dj could very well be a fair judge and a top contestant.
the_black_one 11:14 PM - 2 April, 2013
filp is well rounded... i agree that he would a much better judge that the big mouth they have now
the_black_one 11:14 PM - 2 April, 2013
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VDJ ASTRO 11:21 PM - 2 April, 2013
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co muthafukin sign

Lol how did I miss that co- sign Fo Sho
 6 11:28 PM - 2 April, 2013
Maybe you're

bl muthafukin ind

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Dj-M.Bezzle 11:28 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Lol how did I miss that co- sign Fo Sho

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djdalite 11:31 PM - 2 April, 2013
If y'all only knew what I know

Hopefully everyone gets some cred from the show, except maybe the iPad guy, when did he start dj'n - April 3, 2010?
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:32 PM - 2 April, 2013
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filp is well rounded... i agree that he would a much better judge that the big mouth they have now



to me flip would be a better judge because its not essentially a "dmc" technical style dj comp, its more of a redbull 3style versitile party rocker comp, looking for a marketable all around dj. Capris fits more into that golden era knowledge, name catagory of dj, then you got your tec scratch nerds like qbert, but my personal fave are the guys who dont get to technicnical but can use what they know creativly and be versitile with it to rock a crowd, guys like vice, am, flipside ect ect. IMHO those types of djs would be better for this comp
Dj Shamann 11:34 PM - 2 April, 2013
^ LOL at breaking down what would be better for this comp, like it's actually real.
VDJ ASTRO 11:37 PM - 2 April, 2013
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filp is well rounded... i agree that he would a much better judge that the big mouth they have now



to me flip would be a better judge because its not essentially a "dmc" technical style dj comp, its more of a redbull 3style versitile party rocker comp, looking for a marketable all around dj. Capris fits more into that golden era knowledge, name catagory of dj, then you got your tec scratch nerds like qbert, but my personal fave are the guys who dont get to technicnical but can use what they know creativly and be versitile with it to rock a crowd, guys like vice, am, flipside ect ect. IMHO those types of djs would be better for this comp


That's exactly what I was thinking
 6 11:37 PM - 2 April, 2013
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^ LOL at breaking down what would be better for this comp, like it's actually real.


This

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Dj-M.Bezzle 11:41 PM - 2 April, 2013
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^ LOL at breaking down what would be better for this comp, like it's actually real.


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lol hey i figure if were playing fantasy football we might as well have fun with it.
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:42 PM - 2 April, 2013
this show is just a marketing vehicle and even from that standpoint i think capris kinda a lame draw
DJ Remy USA 11:46 PM - 2 April, 2013


Yea I auditioned
DJ Remy USA 12:09 AM - 3 April, 2013
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.


Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..


djin didnt come from hip hop.


So please gives us your American history on the culture of DJing? Funk breaks birthed the DJ and those breaks are what birthed hiphop and manipulating vinyl records on a turntable. Please tell me where did DJing come from surely hiphop has one of the biggest influences on the culture
 6 12:14 AM - 3 April, 2013
I believe (and I could be wrong) that the first "DJ" to use two turntables actually was spinning jazz.

Don't quote me on that though.

nm
Joshua Carl 12:20 AM - 3 April, 2013
DJ Remy USA 12:23 AM - 3 April, 2013
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I'm rooting for the homie Dynamix to take it all. My guess is it's between him and Jayceeoh.


Dont sleep on my dude Incrediboi he is just a dope and I have seen him kill parties doing what he does. I say that have a problem but Dynamixx and Jayceeoh are dope as well and rock parties. I was in line with a lot of those DJs who made the show in NYC and let me tell majority of the ones who made are not that great on the decks but had personality and fit there description of what they wanted to show on TV. Im actually surprised they picked Incrediboi up being he actually knows what he's doing on the decks
DJ Ness Nice 12:24 AM - 3 April, 2013
i wasnt even gunna touch that subject cause its a never ending argument.. djs have been around. some djs dont even touch turntables, they are radio personalities but are still called djs. It u want to be technical about turntable-ism would be a more appropriate term if we speaking technical. But it took people in the hip hop world to put the pieces together to shape djin to what we have now. The cross fader, scratching, bringing that break back so rappers can rap over it for more that 30seconds etc.. Thats all hip hop.. Before that they were just putting the record on and letting it play..
DJ Remy USA 12:30 AM - 3 April, 2013
^^^ your right people dont want to give hip cred for shaping DJing to what we have now. Majority of guys like Jayceeoh no disrespect his parents probably did not listen to hiphop when he was growing up and he sure throws done like a hiphop DJ so I agree DJing in its purest form has its roots in hiphop.
DJTorchmusic 1:10 AM - 3 April, 2013
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I believe (and I could be wrong) that the first "DJ" to use two turntables actually was spinning jazz.

Don't quote me on that though.

nm


If not Jazz, you're not far off. I KNOW it wasn't hip hop. However, if there's a Genre' that's more defined by Vinyl DJs, it's Hip Hop. That's why many people have the perception that the DJ Era started after Hip Hop. Not only this but time has washed away the term "Disco DJ". Remember them?

About the Show. I think they should limit the amount of technology to "file management".
I think they should only allow what they had at the auditions. Two Decks and Mixer.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:21 AM - 3 April, 2013
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I'm rooting for the homie Dynamix to take it all. My guess is it's between him and Jayceeoh.


Dont sleep on my dude Incrediboi he is just a dope and I have seen him kill parties doing what he does. I say that have a problem but Dynamixx

to this day i get confused when i see dynamixx since im a fan of dynamix2 and thats a completley seperate beast

Watchwww.youtube.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:22 AM - 3 April, 2013
scratch d in tha muthafukin house Watchwww.youtube.com
DeezNotes 1:39 AM - 3 April, 2013
speaking of jazz, wtf was up with that one judge saying he's "never heard someone play a jazz song at a club?" the song was hot music.!? he's never heard "hot music" before? and he's judging a dj contest??
VDJ ASTRO 2:14 AM - 3 April, 2013
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speaking of jazz, wtf was up with that one judge saying he's "never heard someone play a jazz song at a club?" the song was hot music.!? he's never heard "hot music" before? and he's judging a dj contest??



Lol i agree, these guys obviously don't spend time looking for music like we do, since they have a lot of other ish to do so I'm sure they are up to date but not in all genres like most of us are so to judge I really stand by my opinion that they need a guy like Flip.
DJTorchmusic 3:37 AM - 3 April, 2013
I try not to judge someone aptitude. This is a "Show" more than it's a competition. Its' about popularity, ratings and hookups. Which is just the way life is. I have to admit, I'd rather watch a hot chick or a famous comedian make average mixes, but entertain me than watch some Turntablist with an "average" personality "tear it up". Sorry, maybe I just watched one too many DJs spin in my lifetime.
mastermind 4:36 AM - 3 April, 2013
Hello :0)
Mr. Goodkat 7:49 AM - 3 April, 2013
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.


Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..


djin didnt come from hip hop.


So please gives us your American history on the culture of DJing? Funk breaks birthed the DJ and those breaks are what birthed hiphop and manipulating vinyl records on a turntable. Please tell me where did DJing come from surely hiphop has one of the biggest influences on the culture


i didnt say it hasnt a huge influence on dj culture around the world.

but if you wanna get down to djing, as in djing(playing records for people to dance or entertain them, you have a lot of early influences from radio djs, to club(all colors of people) djs playing dance music, to reggae soundsystems/sound clashes/toasting/ remixing/using effects. then you can move to many carribean immigrants in nyc, reforming that culture but using american records, not only funk, but rock, jazz, soul, etc. Just because you see grandmaster flash having a routine in a movie mean that every single dj of the time was doing that exact same thing. Hip hop djing techniques didnt fall out of the sky and appear to kool herc, bambaataa and flash on stone tablets. all those people had dj,music, and cultural influences that extended out of hip hop, because there was no 'hip hop' when they were coming up.
DJTorchmusic 8:03 AM - 3 April, 2013
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Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..


So please gives us your American history on the culture of DJing? Funk breaks birthed the DJ and those breaks are what birthed hiphop and manipulating vinyl records on a turntable. Please tell me where did DJing come from surely hiphop has one of the biggest influences on the culture


i didnt say it hasnt a huge influence on dj culture around the world.

but if you wanna get down to djing, as in djing(playing records for people to dance or entertain them, you have a lot of early influences from radio djs, to club(all colors of people) djs playing dance music, to reggae soundsystems/sound clashes/toasting/ remixing/using effects. then you can move to many carribean immigrants in nyc, reforming that culture but using american records, not only funk, but rock, jazz, soul, etc. Just because you see grandmaster flash having a routine in a movie mean that every single dj of the time was doing that exact same thing. Hip hop djing techniques didnt fall out of the sky and appear to kool herc, bambaataa and flash on stone tablets. all those people had dj,music, and cultural influences that extended out of hip hop, because there was no 'hip hop' when they were coming up.


djin didnt come from hip hop.


I guess Y'all just ignored my ish. I just said that. Hip Hop DID NOT birth DJing. But it HAD a HUGE influence in the art of DJing. Serato (whether they like to admit it or not) was built on Hip Hop.
Dj Shamann 8:27 AM - 3 April, 2013
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they are radio personalities but are still called djs



They haven't been called DJs in 20+ years.



Which genre was the first to utilize beat matching and mixing as it would apply to "DJing as we know it" would be a better way to get to the root of it, rather than saying the first to use two turntables, because what those guys were doing had far less to do with the development of what we consider "DJing".
Dj R. Driver 8:36 AM - 3 April, 2013
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this show is just a marketing vehicle and even from that standpoint i think capris kinda a lame draw


bet that the main audience are all djs and aspiring djs lol
Dj Shamann 8:41 AM - 3 April, 2013
Out of any genre where DJ culture was so important, in history and foundation, the two main genres would be House and Hip-Hop

Disco > House
Sound System culture + Breaks = Hip-Hop > Turntablism

The thing I would say about Hip-Hop and why it's so important in terms of "DJing", is the other genres didn't push the envelope as hard until new technology made it possible, while Hip-Hop DJing didn't wait, they were using the same two turntables to advance light years beyond what other genres were doing with the same equipment.
DJ Remy USA 11:19 AM - 3 April, 2013
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Out of any genre where DJ culture was so important, in history and foundation, the two main genres would be House and Hip-Hop

Disco > House
Sound System culture + Breaks = Hip-Hop > Turntablism

The thing I would say about Hip-Hop and why it's so important in terms of "DJing", is the other genres didn't push the envelope as hard until new technology made it possible, while Hip-Hop DJing didn't wait, they were using the same two turntables to advance light years beyond what other genres were doing with the same equipment.


That sounds pretty accurate, hiphop DJs were def trail blazer..I mean we have a crossfader because of hiphop. We have skippless records, slip mats, transformer switches, etc because of hiphop. Most DJ mixer are made with the hiphop DJ (turntablist) in mind except for most pioneer mixers which encompasses the Disco/House/dance theme which also played a mega role in the development of DJ culture outside of hiphop, however I believe the culture would not have been as advanced had hiphop not set the tone for what DJing is.
Funkytownstopsix 12:39 PM - 3 April, 2013
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this show is just a marketing vehicle and even from that standpoint i think capris kinda a lame draw


bet that the main audience are all djs and aspiring djs lol


Even if that is the case it's good so see dj's that you never heard or seen do their thing. If they would take out those stupid mix drink segments we would have more djing. You would think that Capri with his status would have some say so about how the show should be done but I really don't think that's the case. He was riding Smirnoff nuts, so I assume it's just a pay check.

First shows where more or less hip-hop based this show is not, you can tell by the judges that something is diffrent, Smirnoff is reaching for a different demographic of customer thus the variety of dj's (NONE HIP HOP) thus I-Pod dude making the cut (not that he was bad I liked the dude a lot) but for a true turntablist I am sure they see this is bullshit. No matter what you have to support a show that showcases anything about djing if your a dj... good or bad.
 6 1:24 PM - 3 April, 2013
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They haven't been called DJs in 20+ years.



Which genre was the first to utilize beat matching and mixing as it would apply to "DJing as we know it" would be a better way to get to the root of it, rather than saying the first to use two turntables, because what those guys were doing had far less to do with the development of what we consider "DJing".


Well when I said that the first guy (supposedly) to use two turntables did it with jazz music was actually playing music for a party so that would DJing as we know it.

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Dj Shamann 2:13 PM - 3 April, 2013
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so that would DJing as we know it


Were they beat matching, blending, remixing on the fly, doing anything else besides playing one record until it faded out, then playing the next? Was the foundation and evolution of Jazz music based on what those guys were doing?

Maybe that's Djing as you know it "6" but that's not what we're talking about here. So based on that, and the fact that you're not actually Sixxx, I'm not going to entertain the convo any further.

Take it or leave it, you either get it or you don't. It was just something to think about, not to try and prove either side wrong. Because spending two weeks "proving points" (the thing some were so concerned with in the OTHER Kid Capri thread) through 100 posts per day, using gimmick accounts and other nonsense to reenforce arguments in threads that won't make any difference in either of our lives, is not how I choose to spend my time.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:24 PM - 3 April, 2013
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So based on that, and the fact that you're not actually Sixxx, .

Can we confirm this
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3. 2:37 PM - 3 April, 2013
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So based on that, and the fact that you're not actually Sixxx, .

Can we confirm this

www.djjohnnym.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:40 PM - 3 April, 2013
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So based on that, and the fact that you're not actually Sixxx, .

Can we confirm this

www.djjohnnym.com

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:43 PM - 3 April, 2013
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So based on that, and the fact that you're not actually Sixxx, .

Can we confirm this

www.djjohnnym.com


Wow, that's pretty cute...

I've got an impersonator....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:44 PM - 3 April, 2013
As you can see, my ORIGINAL NAME does not end with a "."....

But this can't be Bezzle, as you all KNOW my spelling is impeccible...

:-)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:46 PM - 3 April, 2013
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But this can't be Bezzle,


or is it?
 6 2:52 PM - 3 April, 2013
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so that would DJing as we know it


Were they beat matching, blending, remixing on the fly, doing anything else besides playing one record until it faded out, then playing the next? Was the foundation and evolution of Jazz music based on what those guys were doing?

Maybe that's Djing as you know it "6" but that's not what we're talking about here. So based on that, and the fact that you're not actually Sixxx, I'm not going to entertain the convo any further.

Take it or leave it, you either get it or you don't. It was just something to think about, not to try and prove either side wrong. Because spending two weeks "proving points" (the thing some were so concerned with in the OTHER Kid Capri thread) through 100 posts per day, using gimmick accounts and other nonsense to reenforce arguments in threads that won't make any difference in either of our lives, is not how I choose to spend my time.


U mad

nm
Ingo B 3:24 PM - 3 April, 2013
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The thing I would say about Hip-Hop and why it's so important in terms of "DJing", is the other genres didn't push the envelope as hard until new technology made it possible, while Hip-Hop DJing didn't wait, they were using the same two turntables to advance light years beyond what other genres were doing with the same equipment.


This makes a ton of sense and is absolutely correct. I'm ashamed I never thought of this.
Mr. Goodkat 6:11 PM - 3 April, 2013
www.amazon.com

this is a good read and details all forms of djings that helped to get us where we are.

btw, i know alot guys from the 80s that played electronic music and were not just playing one song into another. they used keyboards, samplers, and drum machines along with records and doing turntable tricks to play mainly dance/electronic music.
DJTorchmusic 6:23 PM - 3 April, 2013
Did you guys notice your either repeating something in a different way or repeating something someone else mentioned in this thread? Master of the MIx is not about the history of DJing. IT'S a SHOW based on individuals who perform or attempt to perform on Turntables. The DRAW are their personalities because almost ANY bedroom DJ could be BETTER or WORSE than the DJs on the show.
VDJ ASTRO 6:49 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Did you guys notice your either repeating something in a different way or repeating something someone else mentioned in this thread? Master of the MIx is not about the history of DJing. IT'S a SHOW based on individuals who perform or attempt to perform on Turntables. The DRAW are their personalities because almost ANY bedroom DJ could be BETTER or WORSE than the DJs on the show.


Actually they are looking for style diversity of music, transition, use of equipment and of course skill. But yeah it's not about the history of Dj which Kid Capri Brings up on the show
Mr. Goodkat 7:00 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Did you guys notice your either repeating something in a different way or repeating something someone else mentioned in this thread? Master of the MIx is not about the history of DJing. IT'S a SHOW based on individuals who perform or attempt to perform on Turntables. The DRAW are their personalities because almost ANY bedroom DJ could be BETTER or WORSE than the DJs on the show.


they did seem to want stuff other than straight hip hop and called out several djs for playing strictly hip hop. seems like the judge that was trying really hard to be cool, had that dj AM paradigm of what djing is, ala pop hits from the 60s to now.

and, OF course what they looked like/personality was gonna be big, because they are pushing this guy/girl on media outlets. Thats why i dont think dynamix has that great of chance, he just had no style and was kinda dorky looking, but he did some insane routine that was clearly the best of the first dj runs... no offense to dynamix.
DJTorchmusic 7:10 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Did you guys notice your either repeating something in a different way or repeating something someone else mentioned in this thread? Master of the MIx is not about the history of DJing. IT'S a SHOW based on individuals who perform or attempt to perform on Turntables. The DRAW are their personalities because almost ANY bedroom DJ could be BETTER or WORSE than the DJs on the show.


they did seem to want stuff other than straight hip hop and called out several djs for playing strictly hip hop. seems like the judge that was trying really hard to be cool, had that dj AM paradigm of what djing is, ala pop hits from the 60s to now.

and, OF course what they looked like/personality was gonna be big, because they are pushing this guy/girl on media outlets. Thats why i dont think dynamix has that great of chance, he just had no style and was kinda dorky looking, but he did some insane routine that was clearly the best of the first dj runs... no offense to dynamix.


I believe they sent out mixed messages because their auditions only give you two minutes to do your thing. All you can do impressively in that amount of time is "Hip Hop Turtablism" Most EDM DJs won't even get to their first mix before two minutes over...maybe a little knob turning"here and there. The Last Master of the Mix, I simply don't remember seeing anything else but Hip Hop. So, most of the signups this year probably expected the same.
skinnyguy 7:12 PM - 3 April, 2013
and that's another point that skews the show towards hip hop.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:14 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Did you guys notice your either repeating something in a different way or repeating something someone else mentioned in this thread? Master of the MIx is not about the history of DJing. IT'S a SHOW based on individuals who perform or attempt to perform on Turntables. The DRAW are their personalities because almost ANY bedroom DJ could be BETTER or WORSE than the DJs on the show.


they did seem to want stuff other than straight hip hop and called out several djs for playing strictly hip hop. seems like the judge that was trying really hard to be cool, had that dj AM paradigm of what djing is, ala pop hits from the 60s to now.

and, OF course what they looked like/personality was gonna be big, because they are pushing this guy/girl on media outlets. Thats why i dont think dynamix has that great of chance, he just had no style and was kinda dorky looking, but he did some insane routine that was clearly the best of the first dj runs... no offense to dynamix.


I believe they sent out mixed messages because their auditions only give you two minutes to do your thing. All you can do impressively in that amount of time is "Hip Hop Turtablism" Most EDM DJs won't even get to their first mix before two minutes over...maybe a little knob turning"here and there. The Last Master of the Mix, I simply don't remember seeing anything else but Hip Hop. So, most of the signups this year probably expected the same.



I dont think their "audition" had anything to do with djing....they were looking for who had a look, persinality, ect ect, when i auditioned for the real world it was the same thing, they call you in ask you like 3 questions in about two minutes. Getting on the show prob had more to do with followers, internet presence, name recoginition and persobality than it did with skill
Mr. Goodkat 7:21 PM - 3 April, 2013
i figure about half were put on the show my managers and talent scouts, because some look like noobs, and some

jayceeoh, dynamix, tina t, vajra, incrediboi, and lisa pittman all seemed professionally above the rest, although not so much technically. the ladies didnt exactly represent.
SELECT 7:53 PM - 3 April, 2013
It appears they choose Djs that are already established, like DJ Scratch and Yonny from past seasons. They also had to picked some people who would be great for a VH1 show aka the crazy/delusional types.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:58 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Yup
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:59 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Yup


You mean those who would be classified as....














INSANE?
Dj R. Driver 8:08 PM - 3 April, 2013
urrgghh stopped tracking
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:14 PM - 3 April, 2013
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It appears they choose Djs that are already established, like DJ Scratch and Yonny from past seasons. They also had to picked some people who would be great for a VH1 show aka the crazy/delusional types.


Yup


You mean those who would be classified as....














INSANE?


By akiems standard as "insane" meaning not him then yes
SELECT 8:43 PM - 3 April, 2013
I mean really, wouldnt a fight amongst two Djs fit in perfectly with a VH1 show? Imagine records getting thrown, headphones getting ripped off, turntables falling down lol.

All jokes aside, I hope they start showing the real sets from the guys left. I would also love a closeup set from Ipad guy. Im just curious as to how he's controlling it all. Its amazing that you can rock serato with just and Ipad.
DJTorchmusic 9:09 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Did you guys notice your either repeating something in a different way or repeating something someone else mentioned in this thread? Master of the MIx is not about the history of DJing. IT'S a SHOW based on individuals who perform or attempt to perform on Turntables. The DRAW are their personalities because almost ANY bedroom DJ could be BETTER or WORSE than the DJs on the show.


they did seem to want stuff other than straight hip hop and called out several djs for playing strictly hip hop. seems like the judge that was trying really hard to be cool, had that dj AM paradigm of what djing is, ala pop hits from the 60s to now.

and, OF course what they looked like/personality was gonna be big, because they are pushing this guy/girl on media outlets. Thats why i dont think dynamix has that great of chance, he just had no style and was kinda dorky looking, but he did some insane routine that was clearly the best of the first dj runs... no offense to dynamix.


I believe they sent out mixed messages because their auditions only give you two minutes to do your thing. All you can do impressively in that amount of time is "Hip Hop Turtablism" Most EDM DJs won't even get to their first mix before two minutes over...maybe a little knob turning"here and there. The Last Master of the Mix, I simply don't remember seeing anything else but Hip Hop. So, most of the signups this year probably expected the same.



I dont think their "audition" had anything to do with djing....they were looking for who had a look, persinality, ect ect, when i auditioned for the real world it was the same thing, they call you in ask you like 3 questions in about two minutes. Getting on the show prob had more to do with followers, internet presence, name recoginition and persobality than it did with skill


I agree. Obviously the contestants had to have "acceptable" mixing skills but as far as being the best...no. In their defense, I do need to stress that a Dj's persona is part of what it is to be a DJ. An animated, funny and fun to watch person is more interesting to the general public that some unattractively shy DJ with skills.

I mean, c'mon guys. We all know that most listeners don't know the difference or difficulty level of most scratches and mixing Techniques. Those who do still prefer someone "Sexy" to be spinning (this includes me). Look at Pop music today. Beyonce is not hard to look at is she? She is known as a pop icon. But, I will say this, I hear women who can out sing her everyday, but may not have the look or her style. It's just how show business is done these days.

Select said: "All jokes aside, I hope they start showing the real sets from the guys left."

I affectionately say F**k "sets"! I wanna see Djs rip it up in a club. Not in some "Lab". I want to see how the move a REAL crowd REAL clubs. A set to me is like "shadow boxing". Dude look all good throwing fake punches, but you get him/her in a ring with a seasoned boxer and they get "knocked out". I don't wanna speculate how good a DJ is, I wanna SEE how good a DJ is.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:24 PM - 3 April, 2013
Youll never see it cause this isnt a real comp...all it is is a way to hype up the person theyve hired to be the face if their brand for a year
Joshua Carl 9:25 PM - 3 April, 2013
Again, they are airing their full 3 minute sets uninterrupted sporatically on I heart radio MOM station....

Gotta keep an eye on the FB page to see when, but: 1.bp.blogspot.com
DJTorchmusic 9:37 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Youll never see it cause this isnt a real comp...all it is is a way to hype up the person theyve hired to be the face if their brand for a year


You are on a Roll today. Correct again.
Mr. Goodkat 9:40 PM - 3 April, 2013
so now who do you thnk that is? its gotta be jayceeoh or vajra rt?
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:50 PM - 3 April, 2013
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so now who do you thnk that is? its gotta be jayceeoh or vajra rt?

I dont see anyway its not jaycee
DJ Ness Nice 9:58 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Again, they are airing their full 3 minute sets uninterrupted sporatically on I heart radio MOM station....

Gotta keep an eye on the FB page to see when, but: 1.bp.blogspot.com


I checked them out yesterday and they were not as bad as the the editing made them sound on tv.. They were kinda bad but not as bad. Bearable, and u can hear where they were going with it.
DJTorchmusic 10:02 PM - 3 April, 2013
In reference to the "Ipad" dude. I see that as a "travesty". The reason I say this is that it was not an option given to me and others at the auditions here in Vegas and though I embrace technology, that ain't Djing. Its' more "programming" than anything. "Just press Muthafuggin play".

I tell you what? next season I'll drag my 32 track mixing console down there to the auditions Or maybe I"ll bring my traktor loaded Ipad!
Joshua Carl 10:24 PM - 3 April, 2013
Right?
What's to stop a young Araabmuzik protege to drop an mpc and rock it?

I'm curious to what "he desined" though because it looked a lot like touch osc.
(Or any of the midi programs)

I designed a 3 page layout in lemur to control everything in Mix Emergency ...I wouldn't never say it's "my program though"

There is ZERO ground breaking about it.
You map every surface in sertato to a template you layout, connect it via a private network.
Basically you just made a iOS controller.
Put the players on internal, hit play.
(I have this template on my mini, I call it the flosstrodomus fail safe....) if the table goes over, I can limp through the gig.
BIGG BEAR 10:30 PM - 3 April, 2013
Anyone got any links to the full version of this program? please
Joshua Carl 10:50 PM - 3 April, 2013
There bunches of programs you can do it with... 2 of the more popular ones are TouchOSC and Lemur

They are just midi programs you can layout how ever you desire.
And for the more advanced you can scripts automate things.

And if SeRato ever does midi out it will even be a more popular option
(I opted to the iPad mini from the traktorx1) to control ME
auttomattik 11:13 PM - 3 April, 2013
Ok, I've waited to say anything, read this whole fuckin thread, but I can't stay quiet anymore. This show is a Smirnoff ad, that is all. A dj "reality" show could never work because of licencing issues. Basically, they can only play snippets of the songs they get cleared for the tv show. That is expensive, and will never change in any Dj "reality" show.

Next, in past seasons, dj's have come out and told that they had a small thumb drive of licenced music to play on the show and that was all they could play. Also, in order to make people fail they would wait till an hour or less to get the contestants music before there performances. There were also some that said that process was not done equally for every dj. Look up DJ Wicked on YouTube.

To touch on the fact that IDEE got bounced with about 1.5 secs. of air time goes to show you that the show is complete bullshit. The kid is incredible, both as a turntablist and a party rocker. He could DJ with his feet better than half of the stage props that got through that first cut. Much love to Idee, you got fucked my dude.

Most of the DJ's on the first 2 seasons did not audition, the auditions are 95% show to make it seem like the show is reality based. This season they did show Jayceeoh trying out, but that may have been a invite type try out. He is well known and a dope DJ for sure. Vajra aka Chris Karns did NOT try out, I know this for a fact. In fact, I didn't wanna get into it cause I hate talking like this, but I did a show with a world famous DJ about a month ago.
I've worked with him 4 times and have been around him Djing shows over a dozen times. He was asked every season of the show to be on, without a try out. In fact they told him the $$$ was his, he just had to sign up. You would all know this dj for sure, and he probably is considered by a lot of DJs, the one of the best all around, if not the best. We spoke about the most resent show and he told them, he already made it as a DJ and doesn't need the show. He told me that he would never want to be beholden to a liquor sponsor or their agenda or their tour schedule. He is also very lucky to DJ for $5000-$10000 a night.

I'm not gonna call him out, I consider the dude a friend even though he's really just an acquaintance. So I'll get shit, or be called a liar, I don't give a fuck. I just wanna play spoiler so real djs don't buy into this shit. Yes, I watched the first episode hoping I'd see some djing but I'm done with it besides I know some shit. I hope I can ruin any future threads about this stupid fucking show. But there will probably be a weekly thread for every stupid episode any way.

Maybe I can help that not happen. My "boy", the aformentioned DJ, was also invited to the last taping, the finals, and he attended. I will bet anyone on this site ANY amount of $$$ which DJ wins!!!!! Hit me up!!!(Space down for spoiler)

























Jayceeoh wins that shit against Chris Karns, and it was all stage prop type shit. No disrespect to Jayceeoh at all, he's dope. He just did what Smirnoff wanted him to do in order to win. Lastly, NO, I will not tell you who that DJ is who told me all this. I won't blow up his spot, so don't guess. Just give me shit, or bet me bitches. Oh, and to whoever said that Jayceeoh's parents didn't listen to hip hop, no shit, of course not, he's like 34-35, he was born in the 70's. Haha, but that statement ya made seemed kinda racist. Was it cause he's a white dude?
Dj Shamann 11:25 PM - 3 April, 2013
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So I'll get shit, or be called a liar, I don't give a fuck.


No I don't think you will, I think most people in the know already know this, that's why I also think it's funny that it's season 3 and dudes are still taking this shit seriously, it's already been said by those involved in the earlier seasons that it's pre-determined.

I thought I already said this in the thread but it was actually on Audio1's wall when he was saying people were actually getting mad over the show...

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LOL, third season in and people are still complaining? Have they not figured out yet that it's a farce? It's a vodka commercial, not a DJ show, the DJing is just used to help make the vodka commercial look hip. It's irrelevant and anybody carrying on about it STILL after seeing the first 2 seasons, needs to reevaluate their priorities.
auttomattik 11:36 PM - 3 April, 2013
Well thank you for claiming rightful ownership of my comments. I wouldn't have been able to sleep knowing I reinterated something you said Shaaamaaan. And thank you I'll be sure to check out those 3 old posts, I do that as a hobbie. I'm just bustin your balls brother. I feel ya, I don't understand why anyone comments anymore. I just hope I ruined it for one of those dudes.
Dj Shamann 11:43 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Well thank you for claiming rightful ownership of my comments. I wouldn't have been able to sleep knowing I reinterated something you said Shaaamaaan. And thank you I'll be sure to check out those 3 old posts, I do that as a hobbie.



Not sure where I claimed rightful ownership to your comments, I was just saying that I think most will take your word for it.

When I said "I thought I already said 'this'" I wasn't referring to you (as you were dropping inside knowledge), I meant the quote I was about to post so people didn't get confused as to where it came from ;)
Dj Shamann 11:45 PM - 3 April, 2013
I know you're not beefing, I just want to make the context clear in case anybody else reads my comments wrong.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:02 AM - 4 April, 2013
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What's to stop a young Araabmuzik protege to drop an mpc and rock it?



the fact that hed show up the shows chosen one
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:05 AM - 4 April, 2013
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Gotta keep an eye on the FB page to see when, but: 1.bp.blogspot.com


I checked them out yesterday and they were not as bad as the the editing made them sound on tv.. They were kinda bad but not as bad. Bearable, and u can hear where they were going with it.


thats how reality TV works, they push you into acting a certin kinda way then edit the rest, i recently listened to an adam corolla podacst about celeb apprentice and he said the editied version had almost no connection to how things happened in real life, as a matter of fact they edit people exits BEFORE THE SHOW so they cant show bias, i also listened to another podcast that said when they were on break the crew pushed people to talk negativly about other contestants, the ones who were smart enough not to were eliminated quickly
pdidy 12:15 AM - 4 April, 2013
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Ok, I've waited to say anything, read this whole fuckin thread, but I can't stay quiet anymore. This show is a Smirnoff ad, that is all. A dj "reality" show could never work because of licencing issues. Basically, they can only play snippets of the songs they get cleared for the tv show. That is expensive, and will never change in any Dj "reality" show.

I think most of us with any level of common sense came to this conclusion after season 1 episode 1. But hey, there are people who still believe WWE westling is REAL......
Mr. Goodkat 12:21 AM - 4 April, 2013
''Jayceeoh wins that shit against Chris Karns, and it was all stage prop type shit. No disrespect to Jayceeoh at all, he's dope. He just did what Smirnoff wanted him to do in order to win. Lastly, NO, I will not tell you who that DJ is who told me all this. I won't blow up his spot, so don't guess. Just give me shit, or bet me bitches. Oh, and to whoever said that Jayceeoh's parents didn't listen to hip hop, no shit, of course not, he's like 34-35, he was born in the 70's. Haha, but that statement ya made seemed kinda racist. Was it cause he's a white dude?''

thats what i figured. they were the 2 most obvious guys(press, right look) in the right market(LA, guess vajra is from den i think)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3. 12:22 AM - 4 April, 2013
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Ok, I've waited to say anything, read this whole fuckin thread, but I can't stay quiet anymore. This show is a Smirnoff ad, that is all. A dj "reality" show could never work because of licencing issues. Basically, they can only play snippets of the songs they get cleared for the tv show. That is expensive, and will never change in any Dj "reality" show.

I think most of us with any level of common sense came to this conclusion after season 1 episode 1. But hey, there are people who still believe WWE westling is REAL......

www.djjohnnym.com
Joshua Carl 12:37 AM - 4 April, 2013
I skipped out on season 1&2 after I heard a very similar story.

This season I'm a little more vested because I have a few friends on it, of course you want to support your buds.
I knew there was a steady dose of BS

BUT DIDINT KNOW IT WAS THAT BAD
This is why I only watch family guy, walking dead and Anthony Boudain shows.

I guess I should have paid MORE attention to season 1&2, this was the first Ro I've ever sat and watched.

Side bar: here is a high res shot of Homme's interface:
i129.photobucket.com

Which, in the realm of midi interfaces it's very simple.
R-Tistic 12:53 AM - 4 April, 2013
The homie BHen is on it
DJTorchmusic 1:33 AM - 4 April, 2013
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''Jayceeoh wins that shit against Chris Karns, and it was all stage prop type shit. No disrespect to Jayceeoh at all, he's dope. He just did what Smirnoff wanted him to do in order to win. Lastly, NO, I will not tell you who that DJ is who told me all this. I won't blow up his spot, so don't guess. Just give me shit, or bet me bitches. Oh, and to whoever said that Jayceeoh's parents didn't listen to hip hop, no shit, of course not, he's like 34-35, he was born in the 70's. Haha, but that statement ya made seemed kinda racist. Was it cause he's a white dude?''

thats what i figured. they were the 2 most obvious guys(press, right look) in the right market(LA, guess vajra is from den i think)


KAT...

I Rocked many "grown and sexy" Parties where Hip Hop was played to a crowd between 30-50 so, your comment was not that accurate. In addition, if they were born in the 70's that means when his parents were teens, hip hop was really on the rise. It's ok, if they didn't listen to or don't listen to hip hop, but your accusation that his parents didn't have the opportunity to like Hip Hip sucks because Hip Hop was in full effect in their lifetime. We talkin' Sugarhill gang, Africa Bambata, Salt and Peppa, Wrex in effect and the list goes on. I'm older than they are and I love Hip Hop. I love R&B a little more, but I love Hip Hop.

Now what?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:44 AM - 4 April, 2013
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Ok, I've waited to say anything, read this whole fuckin thread, but I can't stay quiet anymore. This show is a Smirnoff ad, that is all. A dj "reality" show could never work because of licencing issues. Basically, they can only play snippets of the songs they get cleared for the tv show. That is expensive, and will never change in any Dj "reality" show.

I think most of us with any level of common sense came to this conclusion after season 1 episode 1. But hey, there are people who still believe WWE westling is REAL......

www.djjohnnym.com


****sigh****
mastermind 3:47 AM - 4 April, 2013
LOL at kid Capri judging.
VDJ ASTRO 3:52 AM - 4 April, 2013
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LOL at kid Capri judging.



East coast sellout (No diss) just the truth:)
mastermind 3:54 AM - 4 April, 2013
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East coast sellout (No diss) just the truth:)


Careful with such statements. Pete may get upset
VDJ ASTRO 3:57 AM - 4 April, 2013
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LOL at kid Capri judging.



East coast sellout (No diss) just the truth:)


Careful with such statements. Pete may get upset



" NO DISS" but if the above statement is true I think a lot of peps will agree that it's all a sell out move
mastermind 3:59 AM - 4 April, 2013
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LOL at kid Capri judging.



East coast sellout (No diss) just the truth:)


Careful with such statements. Pete may get upset



" NO DISS" but if the above statement is true I think a lot of peps will agree that it's all a sell out move


Can We Expect Pete To Sell Out Too?
pdidy 7:14 AM - 4 April, 2013
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Ok, I've waited to say anything, read this whole fuckin thread, but I can't stay quiet anymore. This show is a Smirnoff ad, that is all. A dj "reality" show could never work because of licencing issues. Basically, they can only play snippets of the songs they get cleared for the tv show. That is expensive, and will never change in any Dj "reality" show.

I think most of us with any level of common sense came to this conclusion after season 1 episode 1. But hey, there are people who still believe WWE westling is REAL......

www.djjohnnym.com


****sigh****

"copying is highest form of flattery"
 6 7:54 AM - 4 April, 2013
"copying is highest form of flattery"

Pete invented the Remix! (Not really)


nm
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:44 AM - 4 April, 2013
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Ok, I've waited to say anything, read this whole fuckin thread, but I can't stay quiet anymore. This show is a Smirnoff ad, that is all. A dj "reality" show could never work because of licencing issues. Basically, they can only play snippets of the songs they get cleared for the tv show. That is expensive, and will never change in any Dj "reality" show.

I think most of us with any level of common sense came to this conclusion after season 1 episode 1. But hey, there are people who still believe WWE westling is REAL......

www.djjohnnym.com


****sigh****

"copying is highest form of flattery"


This is true....
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:51 PM - 4 April, 2013
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LOL at kid Capri judging.



East coast sellout (No diss) just the truth:)


Careful with such statements. Pete may get upset



" NO DISS" but if the above statement is true I think a lot of peps will agree that it's all a sell out move


Can We Expect Pete To Sell Out Too?


Lol!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:51 PM - 4 April, 2013
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"copying is highest form of flattery"

Pete invented the Remix! (Not really)


nm

ROTFL
Laz219 1:58 PM - 4 April, 2013
I wish I could be bothered reading this thread, but it grew too quickly.
On a few episodes on youtube though, It's as bad as I'd expect any DJ show to be. (although probably not as bad as 'DJ Idol' would have been)
djkurve 3:11 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Anyone got any links to the full version of this program? please



I actually downloaded Midi Deck Suite a few days ago and it's pretty nice. Allows me to control Scratch Live and Serato Video. I think I might start using it for my video sets. Nice accessory. :)
djdalite 4:13 PM - 4 April, 2013
snap, good thing Smirnoff and Serato aren't partners, this thread would be locked lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:15 PM - 4 April, 2013
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snap, good thing Smirnoff and native instruments aren't partners, this thread would be locked lol

Fixed
Joshua Carl 4:56 PM - 4 April, 2013
heres a video one of our own elite members did that locked me on on lemur.
still working on that gyro thing (use your ipad like the midifighter 3d, tilting it and such)

Watchwww.youtube.com

I use an ipad mini, which is nice because you can still work your 1200s and Mixer as you always have... you can not just control all the extras in your SSL and other ad ons (bridge/video/syphon apps)

again, just too bad that the Ipad guy on the show wasnt doing next level tech shit.
just "look, i have an ipad, and i dont need turntables to accomplish the same exact thing minus scratching, juggling, tricks..."

if serato ever gets midi out i think we'll see alot more of how to rock a classic setup with a healthy injection of new tech at my fingertips too
(not that people arent already doing that)
monchi 5:03 PM - 4 April, 2013
^^^minimum requirements on Ipad to run Lemur?Thanks
Dj Nyce 5:19 PM - 4 April, 2013
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^^^minimum requirements on Ipad to run Lemur?Thanks


no minimum requirements. it has a small footprint.

lemur is so much more powerful than touchosc. highly recommended.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3. 5:28 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Will this be compatible with my typewriter?
DJTorchmusic 5:39 PM - 4 April, 2013
Guys, this is what bothers me. When the auditions were held in Vegas, MOM did not allow anyone to bring in any alternate forms of technology. I had Traktor at the time and they would not allow me to bring in my own stuff or make any changes. It was Serato and two 1200s or nothing. I respected that. Next thing you know an Ipad is on the scene. SMH
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:42 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Guys, this is what bothers me. When the auditions were held in Vegas, MOM did not allow anyone to bring in any alternate forms of technology.

Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.
Joshua Carl 5:45 PM - 4 April, 2013
agreed, that's totally fucked up.

if you watch the episode there's some conversation backstage
"they did that to level the playing field" and comments like that from the DJs

but I think auttomattik laid it out exactly why
DJTorchmusic 5:50 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Guys, this is what bothers me. When the auditions were held in Vegas, MOM did not allow anyone to bring in any alternate forms of technology.

Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.


Dude, you reply made no sense. Are you off your meds again? You did so well yesterday! I have no problem with Technology. The fact that I'm an A+ certified Tech should tell you something. I just feel that if one person gets to use an Ipad, then everyone should.
Ingo B 5:52 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.


ha...took me a few passes, but I finally got the joke.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:52 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Guys, this is what bothers me. When the auditions were held in Vegas, MOM did not allow anyone to bring in any alternate forms of technology.

Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.


Dude, you reply made no sense. Are you off your meds again? You did so well yesterday! I have no problem with Technology. The fact that I'm an A+ certified Tech should tell you something. I just feel that if one person gets to use an Ipad, then everyone should.


Facepalm
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:53 PM - 4 April, 2013
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ha...took me a few passes, but I finally got the joke.

Lol
DJTorchmusic 5:56 PM - 4 April, 2013
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if you watch the episode there's some conversation backstage
"they did that to level the playing field" and comments like that from the DJs

but I think auttomattik laid it out exactly why


I don't mind them "leveling" the playing field. But, it's not fair to those who didn't benefit from this change. Secondly, it actually made the competition less fair. It's MUCH harder to make audible mistakes on an ipad than on TTs or CDJs. It's like Peyton Manning vs "Joe Blow" who gets to use a laser guided football.
DJTorchmusic 5:57 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Guys, this is what bothers me. When the auditions were held in Vegas, MOM did not allow anyone to bring in any alternate forms of technology.

Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.


Dude, you reply made no sense. Are you off your meds again? You did so well yesterday! I have no problem with Technology. The fact that I'm an A+ certified Tech should tell you something. I just feel that if one person gets to use an Ipad, then everyone should.


Facepalm


Stop being such a bitch...thought you was cool for a minute. You must be BiPolar.
Joshua Carl 6:04 PM - 4 April, 2013
Vh1 reality shows success seem to be based more in gererating negative feedback than positive
(Look at wicked single... Everyone in Boston hated it, and they used all the negative feedback AS THEIR COMMERCIAL)

I picture a few execs somewhere saying, ok, we need "a plant" on the show, someone to piss off the viewers.

It's all Hollywood.
Even the iPad people are saying "WTF!"
 6 6:11 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Stop being such a bitch...thought you was cool for a minute. You must be BiPolar.


Wouldn't it be more bipolar-like to think someone was cool for a minute then not so the next minute?

Just sayin'

nm
DJTorchmusic 6:12 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Vh1 reality shows success seem to be based more in gererating negative feedback than positive
(Look at wicked single... Everyone in Boston hated it, and they used all the negative feedback AS THEIR COMMERCIAL)

I picture a few execs somewhere saying, ok, we need "a plant" on the show, someone to piss off the viewers.

It's all Hollywood.
Even the iPad people are saying "WTF!"


True that or maybe they're thinking apple will jump in on the sponsorship.
DJTorchmusic 6:14 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Stop being such a bitch...thought you was cool for a minute. You must be BiPolar.


Wouldn't it be more bipolar-like to think someone was cool for a minute then not so the next minute?

Just sayin'

nm


No...no it wouldn't.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Manic depression" redirects here. For other uses, see Manic depression (disambiguation).

Bipolar disorder
Classification and external resources

Bipolar disorder is characterized by transitions between depression and mania
ICD-10 F31
ICD-9 296.0, 296.1, 296.4, 296.5, 296.6, 296.7, 296.8
OMIM 125480 309200
DiseasesDB 7812
MedlinePlus 000926
eMedicine med/229
MeSH D001714
Bipolar disorder or bipolar affective disorder (historically known as manic–depressive disorder or manic depression) is a psychiatric diagnosis for a mood disorder. Individuals with bipolar disorder experience episodes of a frenzied state known as mania (or hypomania), typically alternating with episodes of depression.
At the lower levels of mania, such as hypomania, individuals appear energetic and excitable and may in fact be highly productive. At a higher level, individuals begin to behave erratically and impulsively, often making poor decisions due to unrealistic ideas about the future, and may have great difficulty with sleep. At the highest level, individuals can experience very distorted beliefs about the world known as psychosis. Individuals who experience manic episodes also commonly experience depressive episodes; some experience a mixed state in which features of both mania and depression are present at the same time. Manic and depressive episodes typically last from a few days to several months and can be interspersed by periods of "normal" mood.
 6 6:15 PM - 4 April, 2013
Well, by that description, Bezzle is off the hook.

Carry on.

nm
DJTorchmusic 6:16 PM - 4 April, 2013
So...when a person seems cool one day and then wanna take of your head the next. There's a good chance that person is bipolar. recognizing these changes DOES NOT make you Bi-Polar. It just makes you observant.
DJTorchmusic 6:16 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Carry on.

nm

LOL
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Guys, this is what bothers me. When the auditions were held in Vegas, MOM did not allow anyone to bring in any alternate forms of technology.

Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.


Dude, you reply made no sense. Are you off your meds again? You did so well yesterday! I have no problem with Technology. The fact that I'm an A+ certified Tech should tell you something. I just feel that if one person gets to use an Ipad, then everyone should.


Facepalm


Stop being such a bitch...thought you was cool for a minute. You must be BiPolar.



www.djjohnnym.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:25 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Guys, this is what bothers me. When the auditions were held in Vegas, MOM did not allow anyone to bring in any alternate forms of technology.

Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.


Dude, you reply made no sense. Are you off your meds again? You did so well yesterday! I have no problem with Technology. The fact that I'm an A+ certified Tech should tell you something. I just feel that if one person gets to use an Ipad, then everyone should.


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Stop being such a bitch...thought you was cool for a minute. You must be BiPolar.



Why so serious
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:27 PM - 4 April, 2013
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agreed, that's totally fucked up.

if you watch the episode there's some conversation backstage
"they did that to level the playing field" and comments like that from the DJs

but I think auttomattik laid it out exactly why


I don't mind them "leveling" the playing field. But, it's not fair to those who didn't benefit from this change. Secondly, it actually made the competition less fair. It's MUCH harder to make audible mistakes on an ipad than on TTs or CDJs. It's like Peyton Manning vs "Joe Blow" who gets to use a laser guided football.



The problem with this though is its not even really a compitition
Joshua Carl 6:38 PM - 4 April, 2013
DJTorchmusic 6:43 PM - 4 April, 2013


LMAO!!!!! Yup!
Funkytownstopsix 6:45 PM - 4 April, 2013
When has bezzel ever been cool....??? Shit I expect him or Six to start shit every 10 seconds on a thread somewhere. That's what I like about the fourms you got a little bit of everybody saying something, that's why I am on her Monday thur Friday.

VS1 Master of the mix.... Did the the female judge say something negative about Serato or was that me. Somebody will coin what she said.
 6 6:47 PM - 4 April, 2013
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When has bezzel ever been cool....??? Shit I expect him or Six to start shit every 10 seconds on a thread somewhere. That's what I like about the fourms you got a little bit of everybody saying something, that's why I am on her Monday thur Friday.

VS1 Master of the mix.... Did the the female judge say something negative about Serato or was that me. Somebody will coin what she said.


What the hell? You're expected to be here the entire week... not just weekdays.


autismdad1966.files.wordpress.com

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DJTorchmusic 6:47 PM - 4 April, 2013
Let me think through this...

2 CDJ 2Ks 3000.00 (on sale)

vs

1 Apple Ipad 500.00

Hmmm, A brotha may need to switch up. If you can't beat em, join em.
 6 6:48 PM - 4 April, 2013
Then again, you can mix with an iPhone... that's $199 with contract. I just saved you $300

lol

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DJTorchmusic 6:50 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Then again, you can mix with an iPhone... that's $199 with contract. I just saved you $300

lol

nm


LMAO!!!!! True that. But I need the big screen. My eyes "are goin' bad" lol
 6 6:51 PM - 4 April, 2013
lmao!

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Dj-M.Bezzle 6:52 PM - 4 April, 2013
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When has bezzel ever been cool....??? Shit I expect him or Six to start shit every 10 seconds on a thread somewhere. That's what I like about the fourms you got a little bit of everybody saying something, that's why I am on her Monday thur Friday.

VS1 Master of the mix.... Did the the female judge say something negative about Serato or was that me. Somebody will coin what she said.


What the hell? You're expected to be here the entire week... not just weekdays.


autismdad1966.files.wordpress.com

nm

Weve been having problems with his tps reports
 6 6:52 PM - 4 April, 2013
Just remember. There is always a way to do something way cheaper.... (although it may not always be the best choice)

farm2.staticflickr.com

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Dj-M.Bezzle 6:54 PM - 4 April, 2013
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So...when a person seems cool one day and then wanna take of your head the next. There's a good chance that person is bipolar. recognizing these changes DOES NOT make you Bi-Polar. It just makes you observant.

Have you figured the joke out yet lol
 6 6:54 PM - 4 April, 2013
Oh yeah... the joke. That was a clever one.

lol @ MOM vs Mom

hahaha
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:55 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Oh yeah... the joke. That was a clever one.

lol @ MOM vs Mom

hahaha

Lol!
DJTorchmusic 6:57 PM - 4 April, 2013
I believe MOM opened up a can of worms they won't wanna eat. Do you know how many wanna be DJs will be showing up with their iPads and phones to the auditions next year?
DJ GaFFle 6:57 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Why was your mother there and whats her problem with technology? She more of a two turntables and a mic kinda lady.


ha...took me a few passes, but I finally got the joke.

Lol

LOL... I thought it funny too.
DJTorchmusic 6:58 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Oh yeah... the joke. That was a clever one.

lol @ MOM vs Mom

hahaha

Lol!


I thought you meant my MOM as in Mother. Now, eventually, I get it.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3. 6:59 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Oh yeah... the joke. That was a clever one.

lol @ MOM vs Mom

hahaha

SMH @ bezzle being clever

www.djjohnnym.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:00 PM - 4 April, 2013
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I believe MOM opened up a can of worms they won't wanna eat.

......LOL
djkurve 7:11 PM - 4 April, 2013
Now this is one of the ways to rock an iPad! Props to DJ Shiftee!

youtu.be
reggae delgado 7:14 PM - 4 April, 2013
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KAT...

I Rocked many "grown and sexy" Parties where Hip Hop was played to a crowd between 30-50 so, your comment was not that accurate. In addition, if they were born in the 70's that means when his parents were teens, hip hop was really on the rise. It's ok, if they didn't listen to or don't listen to hip hop, but your accusation that his parents didn't have the opportunity to like Hip Hip sucks because Hip Hop was in full effect in their lifetime. We talkin' Sugarhill gang, Africa Bambata, Salt and Peppa, Wrex in effect and the list goes on. I'm older than they are and I love Hip Hop. I love R&B a little more, but I love Hip Hop.

Now what?


Whoa homie, double check your reading, originally it was pointed out that VAJRA was born in the mid 70's, not his parents. They were definitely not listening to hip hop as kids... maybe they grew up with bee bop or doo wop, not hip hop.
Taipanic 7:40 PM - 4 April, 2013
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2 CDJ 2Ks 3000.00 (on sale)

vs

1 Apple Ipad 500.00

Hmmm, A brotha may need to switch up. If you can't beat em, join em.


Only if you can do this though:
newsletter.native-instruments.com
Taipanic 7:43 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Only if you can do this though:
newsletter.native-instruments.com


Didn't see it already posted above, my bad...
DJTorchmusic 10:40 PM - 4 April, 2013
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Only if you can do this though:
newsletter.native-instruments.com


Didn't see it already posted above, my bad...


That's what's up.
auttomattik 11:24 PM - 4 April, 2013
Word up Reggae! Thanks for actually understanding what I was saying.....................................except I was talking about Jayceeoh, but the point applies to both dudes. They in there 30's, there parents didn't listen to hip hop, at least not until Vanilla Ice went #1.
DJ GaFFle 11:58 PM - 4 April, 2013
Besides catching the show on Monday nights, how in the world are ya'll viewing Season 3, episode 1? Where and exact link please? I can't seem to find anything more than short blurbs from the show. (nm)
DJTorchmusic 12:09 AM - 5 April, 2013
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Word up Reggae! Thanks for actually understanding what I was saying.....................................except I was talking about Jayceeoh, but the point applies to both dudes. They in there 30's, there parents didn't listen to hip hop, at least not until Vanilla Ice went #1.


If he was born, let's say 75'. Let's say the Parents are in their 20's when he was born. Rapper's delight came out in 79'. Then a slough of Hip Hop in early 80's. They may not listen to it, but it was there. No matter though, the point I'm making is the accusation dude was trying to make about being racially bias was wrong.
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.


Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..


djin didnt come from hip hop.


The type if djing the show and i am referring too.. You dont win dj contest just playing songs.. That called a song playing contest..



Agreed, this is the DJ PM from the show speaking. Let me say firstly, I appreciate REAL DJ's understanding what it's like for things to change unfairly. I'm a house DJ, yes I CAN DJ hip hop but I haven't for a very very very long time and I was not prepared to take on a DMC competition. I'm the first to admit weaknesses. As you heard in the interview, I had a COMPLETELY different set planned and it was really innovative but I didn't get to play that set unfortunately. Believe me, I'm getting blasted from all angles unfairly and it sucks. I produce good house music and I'm a very good house DJ, definitely my strong point. It's just funny that they portrayed me like that in the mean time I'm rocking the stage this weekend with Martin Solveig. It's crazy guys, but that's reality TV. I read through the comments incognito LMAO but thank you to the people who tried to relate, you're the first to do so. It was VERY tough going through that and honestly, it was friggin' unfair as hell that I couldn't play my set. If you guys need anything, songs, mixes, whatever, I am good friends with a lot of TOP 100 guys and I get songs pretty early so I can send them over. Honestly, I'm probably one of the nicest guys you will meet and I will give you the shirt off my back, but what happened to me.........let's just say it was ALOT to handle at once.
DJ Pete Magma 5:29 AM - 5 April, 2013
Also, I did NOT get my name derived from DJ AM. My name is DJ Pete Magma...P(ete) M(agma), that's where P M comes from. I idolized AM like every other DJ and had a lot of respect for him. He heard my stuff and thought I was talented. That's where it ends.
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you gotta agree tho, the show is more hip-hop centric.


Why not?? Djin came from hiphop.. Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing.. Put your hands on the vinyl, scratch, throw on a blend, beat juggle, do a body trick. Thats what djin is. Not saying that the songs you use have to be hip hop but at least utilize some of the technics that go along with djing.. Beat matching is only 1 part..


djin didnt come from hip hop.


The type if djing the show and i am referring too.. You dont win dj contest just playing songs.. That called a song playing contest..



Agreed, this is the DJ PM from the show speaking. Let me say firstly, I appreciate REAL DJ's understanding what it's like for things to change unfairly. I'm a house DJ, yes I CAN DJ hip hop but I haven't for a very very very long time and I was not prepared to take on a DMC competition. I'm the first to admit weaknesses.

well....ya kinda got to at this point dontcha lol
DJ Pete Magma 5:37 AM - 5 April, 2013
LOL fa sho, but that definitely wasn't an accurate representation of what I do or what I'm capable of. I don't "battle", nothing against it just not me, you know? In saying that, I've also taught myself how to do everything from mixing, music theory and production. I was never taught. All hard work. They didn't air that. It was definitely tricks based and I'm not a trick DJ. Like I said, if you have a strong point, why not rock it? Go to my soundcloud.... www.soundcloud.com ..... THOSE are LIVE mixes that I did without any type of TV involved. Just think how shitty it would be if you guys were in that position. It's ROUGH, to say the least, the very very least.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:41 AM - 5 April, 2013
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LOL fa sho, but that definitely wasn't an accurate representation of what I do or what I'm capable of. I don't "battle", nothing against it just not me, you know? In saying that, I've also taught myself how to do everything from mixing, music theory and production. I was never taught. All hard work. They didn't air that. It was definitely tricks based and I'm not a trick DJ. Like I said, if you have a strong point, why not rock it? Go to my soundcloud.... www.soundcloud.com ..... THOSE are LIVE mixes that I did without any type of TV involved. Just think how shitty it would be if you guys were in that position. It's ROUGH, to say the least, the very very least.



All good dude, we know how reality TV works, props!
DJ Pete Magma 5:44 AM - 5 April, 2013
Real talk homie, I've had my share of asses in the last couple of days coming at me sideways, alot of DJ's i USED to respect. You're the realest dude I've spoken to so far so respect and much love to you man. I appreciate you not jumping to conclusions brother. Stay up and let me know if you need any mixes! Hit me on twitter @realDJPM and DM your info, i'll follow you and hit you with mine right back.
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Real talk homie, I've had my share of asses in the last couple of days coming at me sideways, alot of DJ's i USED to respect. You're the realest dude I've spoken to so far so respect and much love to you man. I appreciate you not jumping to conclusions brother. Stay up and let me know if you need any mixes! Hit me on twitter @realDJPM and DM your info, i'll follow you and hit you with mine right back.


no dout bro much respect to you for gettin that far, reality shows have an agenda and its well known that they edit and manipulate shit to create a show, thas why its a show not a contest.

Look at the bright side, you only gotta deal with people shit until the next guy gets the boot, and with the way reality tv works the bootings will be more extremem each time, by the time theres a winner noone will even remember you lost. Keep ya head up peace out and tell Martin Solveig i said whatup
Joshua Carl 6:23 AM - 5 April, 2013
After seeing that YouTube interview I think everyone did a collective face palm...

Btw dj Eloy says what up!
DJ Pete Magma 6:26 AM - 5 April, 2013
@Bezzle Thank you family you do the same and rock those crowds man! I'll tell Martin you said whattup on Sunday! If you guys are free come have a drink at our table we will be at Yost! All are welcome to come, I got you! @Joshua Thank you homie, I was doing a face palm myself hahahaha, Eloy, whattup family! That's my man right there, how y'all doing?!
DJTorchmusic 8:02 AM - 5 April, 2013
I'm sorry to sound like an a**hole. But, you just said your rocking the stage with Martin Solvieg and your on TV (that stands for Television). I can't and won't feel sorry for you and though we may be the best in friends, I don't think it's right to bring a sob story like this, in a room of "nobodies" who have no issue dealing with what you're dealing with. Shit...what your dealing with now (and making mad career moves) is shit some of us deal with everyday at our f**ked up day jobs.

I'm sorry guys, I'm not with this "feel sorry for PM" thing. You knew what you were getting into when you got on the show! Dude...(wake up slap) YOU GOT ON TV!. People know you! You can get hella money doing gigs! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and start feeling the fame that others wish they could have had! Dayum! SMH.
Mr. Goodkat 8:02 AM - 5 April, 2013
i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.
DJTorchmusic 8:03 AM - 5 April, 2013
I'm sorry to sound like an a**hole. But, you just said your rocking the stage with Martin Solvieg and your on TV (that stands for Television). I can't and won't feel sorry for you and though we may be the best in friends, I don't think it's right to bring a sob story like this, in a room of "nobodies" who have no issue dealing with what you're dealing with. Shit...what your dealing with now (and making mad career moves) is shit some of us deal with everyday at our f**ked up day jobs.

I'm sorry guys, I'm not with this "feel sorry for PM" thing. You knew what you were getting into when you got on the show! Dude...(wake up slap) YOU GOT ON TV!. People know you! You can get hella money doing gigs! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and start feeling the fame that others wish they could have had! Dayum! SMH.
DJTorchmusic 8:04 AM - 5 April, 2013
forum crashed.
DJTorchmusic 8:05 AM - 5 April, 2013
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.


Exactly.
Mr. Goodkat 8:12 AM - 5 April, 2013
the exact quote is the 'i was dubbed dj pm after my style resembled dj am's'

and, 'i hate djs that stare at their computers'
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:42 PM - 5 April, 2013
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:31 PM - 5 April, 2013
Essentially saying this guy lost because he wasnt prepared is the same as watching wrestlemania this weekend and saying cm punks gonna lose to the undertaker because he hasnt practiced the sleeper hold enough
Ingo B 2:24 PM - 5 April, 2013
Finally watched the show.

DJ Pete Magma - your post-cut interview was the best. Everyone else said something predictable like "this isn't the end" or "I'll be back stronger than ever" or some other cliche' deal.

Your "I'm pissed, man" was perfect.
Funkytownstopsix 3:13 PM - 5 April, 2013
From my prospective when PM said his idol was DJ AM I expected DJ Am type stuff.. I think most did and I am sure your getting a lot of back draft/hate from that alone. Your automatically held to a DJ AM standard and I bet most people assumed you where taught by him. I was in the Bed with my wife when the statement was made and I was like he is about to tear some shit up... AM WAS A BEAST. Coupled with the name DJ PM well you kinda expected Dj Am to floating over your shoulder. After the few seconds we saw she said I could beat him,,,,, she has never touched a TT in her life,,, but she liked the Ipod dude.....WTF.... lol he was good....

I could clearly see you were out of you element as the performance was severely lacking, and I do understand reality tv, I would hate if they took my set and just gave me songs right before I went in. This explains why everyone was looking so hard at their laptop screens :)... I don't think it was a sob story more so then you stating facts but most dj's will not accept/let you get away that excuse because a dj preform under those conditions quite often. Add to the fact that if your a dj you should be versed in hop-hop and if you haven't played hip-hop in years it should be like riding a bike you don't forget. I myself have been out of my element a few times it's a learning experience, hopefully you learned something from this whole ordeal. The TV Show fudged your rep, and that should be a learning experience to everyone reading this tread. I never felt the need to kick a man when he was down because one day he might get up and kick you... Do your thing P.M......!!!!
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From my prospective when PM said his idol was DJ AM I expected DJ Am type stuff.. I think most did and I am sure your getting a lot of back draft/hate from that alone. Your automatically held to a DJ AM standard and I bet most people assumed you where taught by him. I was in the Bed with my wife when the statement was made and I was like he is about to tear some shit up... AM WAS A BEAST. Coupled with the name DJ PM well you kinda expected Dj Am to floating over your shoulder. After the few seconds we saw she said I could beat him,,,,, she has never touched a TT in her life,,, but she liked the Ipod dude.....WTF.... lol he was good....

I could clearly see you were out of you element as the performance was severely lacking, and I do understand reality tv, I would hate if they took my set and just gave me songs right before I went in. This explains why everyone was looking so hard at their laptop screens :)... I don't think it was a sob story more so then you stating facts but most dj's will not accept/let you get away that excuse because a dj preform under those conditions quite often. Add to the fact that if your a dj you should be versed in hop-hop and if you haven't played hip-hop in years it should be like riding a bike you don't forget. I myself have been out of my element a few times it's a learning experience, hopefully you learned something from this whole ordeal. The TV Show fudged your rep, and that should be a learning experience to everyone reading this tread. I never felt the need to kick a man when he was down because one day he might get up and kick you... Do your thing P.M......!!!!


There's a rather large difference between idolization and imitation. You can respect someones style without adapting to it.
Funkytownstopsix 3:55 PM - 5 April, 2013
This is true,,,, I idolize DJ JAZZY Jeff but can't scratch at least not like him,,,,,, but since I repsect his sytle I did try and learn it,,,, can I be Jeff hell no!!! But I can at least scratch that's the least I owe to someone I idolize... But hey that's just me.... My point was how the general dj see it,,,, I saw it as such at the time just sharing incite form my propesctive.
Funkytownstopsix 3:57 PM - 5 April, 2013
Simply put had he not Name Dropped do you think he would have gotten this much backlash...?
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:07 PM - 5 April, 2013
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How is saying someones your idol name droppin
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:08 PM - 5 April, 2013
Im in the same boat as dude, i loooove the way am played, hes one if my all time faves for the way he plays....but i live edm music allooott more so tjats what i play
Funkytownstopsix 4:45 PM - 5 April, 2013
Bezzle,,,,,, Had he just said I am DJ PM(without any mention to DJ AM) do you think he would have gotten so much backlash. I don't that is all I am saying. I'm not downing PM by any means please understand that.

To answer the question anytime you say any name other than yours you are name dropping.
 6 5:04 PM - 5 April, 2013
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so that's why you like EDM


nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:11 PM - 5 April, 2013
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Bezzle,,,,,, Had he just said I am DJ PM(without any mention to DJ AM) do you think he would have gotten so much backlash. I don't that is all I am saying. I'm not downing PM by any means please understand that.

To answer the question anytime you say any name other than yours you are name dropping.



So should i start bashing you for droppung 3 names here...and should we now expect you to sound like pm am and me since your dropping our names cause id love to hear how that combination works out lol
DJTorchmusic 5:15 PM - 5 April, 2013
In my book, you're either a fan or a performer. You may like someone, but you have your own style. I LOVE PRINCE but I never tried to copy his music because I couldn't and didn't want to (plus he's way more talented than me). When it comes to "mimicking" or DJing like a certain DJ, it would be the guy who trainer back in 83'. But, even now my style is different from his. If someone keeps mentioning other DJs, it concerns me about their own self image.

I won't say the show is crap or not. If more viewers are watching it, essentially it's a success. The question you have to ask yourself is if the viewing experience entertaining? Do Does it spur emotions out of you and make you wanna watch again or don't watch again...yes. It's Drama! This new EDM twist will increase it's popularity. Were there things unfair about it? Yes. At every level. But, that's life.
Funkytownstopsix 5:29 PM - 5 April, 2013
lol,,,, Why do I even Try...after all it's Bezzle.... Yeap I named dropped,,,, and I am working on adapting your style as we speak... cause your my idol. :) As far as bashing me I could careless, as should he or you for that matter. I have not bashed anyone today. Preception is Nine Tenths of the Law... What was your perception of what happened with PM on the show. Did he preform well to you, was he set up, was he in over his head, did they fudge him by having him play something he never plays, had he not said DJ AM was idol would people look at him differently. ....

Bezzle even you can play more than one Genre of music correct, I would bet that you could play many,,,, that's all I have to say.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:38 PM - 5 April, 2013
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I have no idea i dont watch that garbage lol ;)
 6 5:40 PM - 5 April, 2013
lol
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I have no idea i dont watch that garbage lol ;)


Fucker!!!!!! lol

Well I think they all got fudged except those they wanted to stay on the show. I am sure they got stuff in their field.
 6 6:16 PM - 5 April, 2013
I'm entering next year with just a cowbell.

;-)

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Mr. Goodkat 6:18 PM - 5 April, 2013
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The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.
Joshua Carl 6:18 PM - 5 April, 2013
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Im entering with a cowbell iPhone app
 6 6:26 PM - 5 April, 2013
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Im entering with a cowbell iPhone app


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 6 6:27 PM - 5 April, 2013
I'm keeping it real. Just a cowbell. Fuck that app BS.

:-P

nm
Joshua Carl 6:28 PM - 5 April, 2013
but now i can concentrate on other things, like my v-neck sweater
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Dj-M.Bezzle 6:55 PM - 5 April, 2013
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5
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Chad S. 6:56 PM - 5 April, 2013
Every year these threads are more entertaining than the show.

but I'm keen on a few of the DJ's this year, we'll see what happens.
Mr. Goodkat 7:01 PM - 5 April, 2013
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.


Still missing the point though, if a producer is in your ear before hand going we looove what you do THATS WHAT WE WANT,who in their right mind would go..hmmm im going to put together something completly different than what their telline they want
Mr. Goodkat 7:33 PM - 5 April, 2013
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.


Still missing the point though, if a producer is in your ear before hand going we looove what you do THATS WHAT WE WANT,who in their right mind would go..hmmm im going to put together something completly different than what their telline they want


i get that, just saying be prepared for anything. you and i take gigs all the time, that say bezz we want you to play hip hop/edm/house/pop then halfway through the gig they say, hey we have a big spender/celebrity/owner here that want to hear something different. so you have a backup plan. I would say being on a national tv show, would even have you more on alert, knowing that millions are going to see you in perpetuity.
Joshua Carl 7:36 PM - 5 April, 2013
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just because.
ya'll need some joy in your life, its friday son!
Mr. Goodkat 7:39 PM - 5 April, 2013
damn that rack.....
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:41 PM - 5 April, 2013
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. you and i take gigs all the time, that say bezz we want you to play hip hop/edm/house/pop then halfway through the gig they say, hey we have a big spender/celebrity/owner here that want to hear something different. so you have a backup plan.



False...noone with money comes to the places i play lol jk ;)
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just because.
ya'll need some joy in your life, its friday son!

.....ya im good now thanks bro lol
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just because.
ya'll need some joy in your life, its friday son!


Thanks Man I really needed that your a lifesaver.
DJ SHY 8:17 PM - 5 April, 2013
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DJ Pete Magma 9:05 PM - 5 April, 2013
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.


Still missing the point though, if a producer is in your ear before hand going we looove what you do THATS WHAT WE WANT,who in their right mind would go..hmmm im going to put together something completly different than what their telline they want


i get that, just saying be prepared for anything. you and i take gigs all the time, that say bezz we want you to play hip hop/edm/house/pop then halfway through the gig they say, hey we have a big spender/celebrity/owner here that want to hear something different. so you have a backup plan. I would say being on a national tv show, would even have you more on alert, knowing that millions are going to see you in perpetuity.



It's PM. See here is what you don't understand. When you are house DJ and producer, you need to worry about your branding. So, the question is, is it better to flop hip hop and rep house music or is it better to make yourself out to be a hip hop DJ and then have issues breaking the house market. The house market is very against hip hop DJ's breaking onto the Top 100, mainly because they don't want the genre's to co-exist at festivals like tomorrowland. Europe has a massive house following and that's where house DJ's aspire to go. I am very brand specific and it is not worth ruining everything I have worked towards in house to spin hip hop on TV for 20 seconds. I chose to stick with my brand, now if you feel differently then that is your views and your opinion, but tell me, is it worth the risk? My dream is to be a house DJ on stage at Tomorrowland, not a DMC champion. Everyone has different dreams and it's up to you to follow yours. DMC champions are super talented and so are house producers. It's a matter of YOUR dream. You can judge 15 second of TV OUTSIDE my genre of music and expertise OR you can go to my soundcloud and listen to what I specialize in and my credentials in MY industry. Believe me, you can say you would be, could be, should be prepared, but being in the situation when it happens is much much different. Any great sets take planning and meticulous construction, even if it's only a couple of minutes. Especially with house music.
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and, 'i hate djs that stare at their computers'



What about the part that wasn't in the show that also went on to say, "that was when I was 18-21 years old, but I do strictly house music name and go under Pete Magma."

Don't jump to conclusions so quick about TV man, it's entertainment.

Nice to meet you.
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Bezzle,,,,,, Had he just said I am DJ PM(without any mention to DJ AM) do you think he would have gotten so much backlash. I don't that is all I am saying. I'm not downing PM by any means please understand that.

To answer the question anytime you say any name other than yours you are name dropping.



So should i start bashing you for droppung 3 names here...and should we now expect you to sound like pm am and me since your dropping our names cause id love to hear how that combination works out lol


The whole thing boils down to the DJ AM stuff created drama, drama draws ratings. Full statements are obviously too long to put on TV so they edit things to fit. I did idolize AM, tried his style for years, but I am just too into house music and I don't enjoy open format clubs. It's just my personal preference and I switched about 2 years ago. Don't even really use PM anymore unless someone puts it on a flyer by mistake. My name is Pete Magma. Everyone is granted their opinion but everyone also has that same right to guide their career in the direction they see fit. I might have flopped hip hop, but I guarantee that a lot of "house purists" appreciate that I didn't sell out and claim to be a hip hop DJ. Watch my real elimination vid on youtube or vh1.com and you will see that I clearly stated, "I'm a house music DJ, I don't play hip hop. You told me I could play house." They put that online but not on the show because if it was on the show it would have made things clear and way less dramatic. It's TV.
DJTorchmusic 9:17 PM - 5 April, 2013
BIASED STATEMENT BUT TRUE:

EDM is a less demanding Genre' than any other Genre' of DJ music. It's ALL mostly one speed (128 give or take), Has long intros for mixing and lots of accapella parts to mix over. Hip Hop is NOT the most difficult, but it has MUCH smaller windows of Opportunity and in ways, forces one to have better motor skills (hand to ear) that many other Genre's. EDM is EDM music. Other than some digitally put together "mashups".

I seen hip hop DJs use rock, dancehall, reggae, classical, jazz, etc in their "performances". Even though they use different Genre's it's still a "Hip Hop" style of Mix/Scratching.

MOM made the right decision (for them) to add EDM. Its' one of the most popular world Genre's, right now and will definitely add a larger audience. The Problem is EDM and Hip Hop DON"T MIX (no pun intended) . The music and culture is completely different (very little to do with race).

I predict that next year we will see two different shows "EDM life" and "MOM". Which is the way it should be done. I don't even know if there was an EDM judge on the panel. This is if they really want to hold a real competition.

In conclusion - I'm shallow (like most viewers)

Though I love hip hip and R&B, I prefer to watch a hot chick with personality mix EDM than watch a bunch of dudes with no exceptional talent juggle and scratch. Conversely for the women, they want to see "hunks" WITH PERSONALITY & LOOKS DJ. They don't care about skills.
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.


Still missing the point though, if a producer is in your ear before hand going we looove what you do THATS WHAT WE WANT,who in their right mind would go..hmmm im going to put together something completly different than what their telline they want


i get that, just saying be prepared for anything. you and i take gigs all the time, that say bezz we want you to play hip hop/edm/house/pop then halfway through the gig they say, hey we have a big spender/celebrity/owner here that want to hear something different. so you have a backup plan. I would say being on a national tv show, would even have you more on alert, knowing that millions are going to see you in perpetuity.



It's PM. See here is what you don't understand. When you are house DJ and producer, you need to worry about your branding. So, the question is, is it better to flop hip hop and rep house music or is it better to make yourself out to be a hip hop DJ and then have issues breaking the house market. The house market is very against hip hop DJ's breaking onto the Top 100, mainly because they don't want the genre's to co-exist at festivals like tomorrowland. Europe has a massive house following and that's where house DJ's aspire to go. I am very brand specific and it is not worth ruining everything I have worked towards in house to spin hip hop on TV for 20 seconds. I chose to stick with my brand, now if you feel differently then that is your views and your opinion, but tell me, is it worth the risk? My dream is to be a house DJ on stage at Tomorrowland, not a DMC champion. Everyone has different dreams and it's up to you to follow yours. DMC champions are super talented and so are house producers. It's a matter of YOUR dream. You can judge 15 second of TV OUTSIDE my genre of music and expertise OR you can go to my soundcloud and listen to what I specialize in and my credentials in MY industry. Believe me, you can say you would be, could be, should be prepared, but being in the situation when it happens is much much different. Any great sets take planning and meticulous construction, even if it's only a couple of minutes. Especially with house music.



THIS GUY GETS IT!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:33 PM - 5 April, 2013
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Ya i love all those trap,dubstep,breaks, and drum and bass that are at 128.........facepalm at your statment
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MOM made the right decision (for them) to add EDM. Its' one of the most popular world Genre's, right now and will definitely add a larger audience. The Problem is EDM and Hip Hop DON"T MIX (no pun intended) . The music and culture is completely different (very little to do with race).

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Again completlt wrong hiphop people are to stubbern but edm culture loves hiphop as well thats why there are so many edm remixs and this little thing sweeping the nation called trapstep
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.


Still missing the point though, if a producer is in your ear before hand going we looove what you do THATS WHAT WE WANT,who in their right mind would go..hmmm im going to put together something completly different than what their telline they want


i get that, just saying be prepared for anything. you and i take gigs all the time, that say bezz we want you to play hip hop/edm/house/pop then halfway through the gig they say, hey we have a big spender/celebrity/owner here that want to hear something different. so you have a backup plan. I would say being on a national tv show, would even have you more on alert, knowing that millions are going to see you in perpetuity.



It's PM. See here is what you don't understand. When you are house DJ and producer, you need to worry about your branding. So, the question is, is it better to flop hip hop and rep house music or is it better to make yourself out to be a hip hop DJ and then have issues breaking the house market. The house market is very against hip hop DJ's breaking onto the Top 100, mainly because they don't want the genre's to co-exist at festivals like tomorrowland. Europe has a massive house following and that's where house DJ's aspire to go. I am very brand specific and it is not worth ruining everything I have worked towards in house to spin hip hop on TV for 20 seconds. I chose to stick with my brand, now if you feel differently then that is your views and your opinion, but tell me, is it worth the risk? My dream is to be a house DJ on stage at Tomorrowland, not a DMC champion. Everyone has different dreams and it's up to you to follow yours. DMC champions are super talented and so are house producers. It's a matter of YOUR dream. You can judge 15 second of TV OUTSIDE my genre of music and expertise OR you can go to my soundcloud and listen to what I specialize in and my credentials in MY industry. Believe me, you can say you would be, could be, should be prepared, but being in the situation when it happens is much much different. Any great sets take planning and meticulous construction, even if it's only a couple of minutes. Especially with house music.



all im hearing is excuses. just because you are dj pm that plays/produces house, doesnt mean you can be dj pete that plays at bottle service gigs for money and dj experience. Daniel from La riots is one person that comes to mind that hasnt had any problem with doing both.
Mr. Goodkat 9:40 PM - 5 April, 2013
and besides, going from your soundcloud, you are playing pop/club beatport 100 house, its not like you are playing underground real house or tech house. i can understand if you are trying to be the next crosstown rebels or hot creations signee, but ive heard plenty of people bang out that club chz that can dj hip hop or any other kind of music.
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Ya i love all those trap,dubstep,breaks, and drum and bass that are at 128.........facepalm at your statment


Those are different sub Genre's dude.

Let's see here...you mentioned

Trap (It's TRAP not EDM)
Dubstep ( I do remember deadmau stating he dislike for dubstep. He happens to be an EDM Artist so obviously that's NOT EDM)
Drum and Bass (which has been around BEFORE EDM) <<---Electronica maybe.

That's why they names these TRAP, DUBSTEP AND D&B. you can throw them in there with EDM but at best an "altered form".
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:42 PM - 5 April, 2013
I can understand where dude is comming from 100%, i was playin some of the largest venues in my area but i never got booked at shows i WANTED to play, i though people were jealous but ifigured out the reason was at the large clubs im playing the wobble and gucciman all night so people assumed thats what i enjoyed so the didnt book me for undergrounds, then when i got booked at a few i realused people who enjoyed me at my residencys would cime to the undergrounds and bitch all night. My solution was to leave the high profile high paying gigs and enbed myself in the scene i love, now ik opening for my fave artists instead of playing music made by retards to retards
Mr. Goodkat 9:43 PM - 5 April, 2013
all electronic club music(outside of rap/hip hop, although it is electronic and people dance to it) is going by edm these days torch. its an umbrella term.
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i aint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.


Still missing the point though, if a producer is in your ear before hand going we looove what you do THATS WHAT WE WANT,who in their right mind would go..hmmm im going to put together something completly different than what their telline they want


i get that, just saying be prepared for anything. you and i take gigs all the time, that say bezz we want you to play hip hop/edm/house/pop then halfway through the gig they say, hey we have a big spender/celebrity/owner here that want to hear something different. so you have a backup plan. I would say being on a national tv show, would even have you more on alert, knowing that millions are going to see you in perpetuity.



It's PM. See here is what you don't understand. When you are house DJ and producer, you need to worry about your branding. So, the question is, is it better to flop hip hop and rep house music or is it better to make yourself out to be a hip hop DJ and then have issues breaking the house market. The house market is very against hip hop DJ's breaking onto the Top 100, mainly because they don't want the genre's to co-exist at festivals like tomorrowland. Europe has a massive house following and that's where house DJ's aspire to go. I am very brand specific and it is not worth ruining everything I have worked towards in house to spin hip hop on TV for 20 seconds. I chose to stick with my brand, now if you feel differently then that is your views and your opinion, but tell me, is it worth the risk? My dream is to be a house DJ on stage at Tomorrowland, not a DMC champion. Everyone has different dreams and it's up to you to follow yours. DMC champions are super talented and so are house producers. It's a matter of YOUR dream. You can judge 15 second of TV OUTSIDE my genre of music and expertise OR you can go to my soundcloud and listen to what I specialize in and my credentials in MY industry. Believe me, you can say you would be, could be, should be prepared, but being in the situation when it happens is much much different. Any great sets take planning and meticulous construction, even if it's only a couple of minutes. Especially with house music.



all im hearing is excuses. just because you are dj pm that plays/produces house, doesnt mean you can be dj pete that plays at bottle service gigs for money and dj experience. Daniel from La riots is one person that comes to mind that hasnt had any problem with doing both.



The LA Riots? That's who you used as a reference? How about Richie Hawtin, Tiesto, Robbie Rivera, Above and Beyond, Cosmic Gate, ATB....need I continue? The LA Riots are not strictly house music either, I've seen them multiple times drop hip hop. I'm not attacking you my friend, I'm simply stating that in order to judge someone in the house culture, you must completely understand house music and bringing up the LA Riots definitely doesn't do that justice. I spin what I choose to spin, if people like hip hop, great, but I like playing house. It's two different arts that are INCOMPARABLE. If you think spinning house is easy then odds are you aren't spinning it right. The mixes should be seamless and incapable of being told apart from an untrained ear. Hip Hop is choppy because the beats are different in their entirety most of the time. House is all about harmonies. I can sit here and bash hip hop DJ's for not harmonizing sometimes but I don't because in their art, I must respect their specific craft.
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Ya i love all those trap,dubstep,breaks, and drum and bass that are at 128.........facepalm at your statment


Those are different sub Genre's dude.

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Drum and Bass (which has been around BEFORE EDM) <<---Electronica maybe.

That's why they names these TRAP, DUBSTEP AND D&B. you can throw them in there with EDM but at best an "altered form".

Edm is the unbrella term that covers electronic dance music, if you dont know that i dont know what to tell ya.

So what category do these genres fall under? Country? Jazz?
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Absolutely untrue, my Ibiza mix has some Top 100 tracks other underground tracks and I guarantee most people can't name the first few tracks used in the Sex and Champagne mix. I DJ top 100 on soundcloud because those are for my radio show, and those sets are more mainstream. Also, unless you have come to my shows you can't possibly know what I spin to open with before 1 A.M. hits. All tech house. Tech house is my favorite genre, I produce tech house.
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i totally get that, but because you go take a pop gig, its not going to ruin your rep. I'm in a similar situation, because i never wanted to play pop music, or terrible club music, but if its a gig that i can take, because i keep up with hip hop/edm/underground house/techno, i can take all these gigs. People know i can play both, so i get booked for pop or underground gigs. Of course 7 years of being bottle service dude in my area, doesnt always help, but once i play, most people get that i can do both and my 12 years experience kind of proves im not bs'ing and gonna break out into lil wayne at an afterhours gig instead of playing club electro house/crap whatever you wanna call it.
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I believe EDM is a marketing term. Otherwise hip hip would be EDM cause it's all electronic these days.


My argument is Drum and Bass. If you are older, you and I both know D&B was around long before people were saying the name EDM. Its' marketing. 30 years ago it was called 80's rock.
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Yes which makes trap dubstep drum and bass drumstep ect ect _____ <~fill in the blank
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i totally get that, but because you go take a pop gig, its not going to ruin your rep. I'm in a similar situation, because i never wanted to play pop music, or terrible club music, but if its a gig that i can take, because i keep up with hip hop/edm/underground house/techno, i can take all these gigs. People know i can play both, so i get booked for pop or underground gigs. Of course 7 years of being bottle service dude in my area, doesnt always help, but once i play, most people get that i can do both and my 12 years experience kind of proves im not bs'ing and gonna break out into lil wayne at an afterhours gig instead of playing club electro house/crap whatever you wanna call it.



Again, not true in its entirety. We are talking about two different circumstances. If you could go hear Swedish House Mafia spin hip hop would there house mean as much to the community? DJ'ing for paid gigs and money is a different situation than pursuing a career in music production in the international market. Gigging all different types of places is great, if that's what you want to continue doing. Don't expect to see someone club hopping on the Top 100 for house music though. They would never get the credit they deserved nor the respect. You can name a few DJ's spinning at festivals that spin hip hop but are they making nearly the money as big house guys? In that case, do they demand the same crowd even? They are fantastic DJ's but the house music market is biased and very selective, especially at Tomorrowland and ADE.
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iaint mad at you, but if you go to a comp like that, what would you really expect? Seems like if you get that break to make a nationally televised tv show, fixed or not, you gotta be prepared for anything. but its whatever, i'm just sayin, you got out there and did your thing, and thats all that matters.



The problem with this statment is that in the end bo matter how prepared he was this ISNT A REAL CONTEST its avtv show and as a tv show all ofvthe power lies in the editing room not the stage


i got that bezz, but the reality is that you are on tv for 15-30 seconds, and like i said if its fixed or not, you can look like you suck or look like you can at least know how to dj, IF you get a routine down for each occasion.

YOu might be on Monday nite raw, but you dont have to come out in khakis and a polo and terribly outta shape. at least look like a wrestler. from his 15 secs it looked like he'd been djing for a year or so.



Once again untrue, 2 things

A) i havent seen the episode but i can say that the magic of editing can make anyone look good or bad, if you come to wrestle fat and out of shape but they edit ir so you only see your best moves and cut out you puking in the corner afterwards youll still look great

B) about having a routine, imagine this senario, the producers see u have a huge following and a name, the hit you up and unvite you to come in personally, you come in skip the line audition and they tell you your great they say last year was hiphop but they want a new direction since edms hot and your style is what they want, they tell you to go put together the hotest edm set you can, you say hey just so you know i just do house, they say exactyly we love it just do you. You go home and put together a nice set, you show up for filming and say your sure i can just do house right and they say yes thats this years direction is edm edms hot scratchings sooi last year. Then the next thing you know your given a handful of hiphop tracks capris clownin ya and the same producer who told edms what their after is calling you a dumb fuck for not knowing who to scribble flare outta jurrasic 5


but if you havent watched the episode, how can you really see what goin on? If you dont have and major screw ups, nothing to edit and as far as the routine goes. If you go in and smash like DYnamix, theres no editing. None of the judges were asking for technical scratching.

ssl has crates, on the plane ride you can easily put 5-10 crates together of different genre playlist. its really not hard.


Still missing the point though, if a producer is in your ear before hand going we looove what you do THATS WHAT WE WANT,who in their right mind would go..hmmm im going to put together something completly different than what their telline they want


i get that, just saying be prepared for anything. you and i take gigs all the time, that say bezz we want you to play hip hop/edm/house/pop then halfway through the gig they say, hey we have a big spender/celebrity/owner here that want to hear something different. so you have a backup plan. I would say being on a national tv show, would even have you more on alert, knowing that millions are going to see you in perpetuity.



It's PM. See here is what you don't understand. When you are house DJ and producer, you need to worry about your branding. So, the question is, is it better to flop hip hop and rep house music or is it better to make yourself out to be a hip hop DJ and then have issues breaking the house market. The house market is very against hip hop DJ's breaking onto the Top 100, mainly because they don't want the genre's to co-exist at festivals like tomorrowland. Europe has a massive house following and that's where house DJ's aspire to go. I am very brand specific and it is not worth ruining everything I have worked towards in house to spin hip hop on TV for 20 seconds. I chose to stick with my brand, now if you feel differently then that is your views and your opinion, but tell me, is it worth the risk? My dream is to be a house DJ on stage at Tomorrowland, not a DMC champion. Everyone has different dreams and it's up to you to follow yours. DMC champions are super talented and so are house producers. It's a matter of YOUR dream. You can judge 15 second of TV OUTSIDE my genre of music and expertise OR you can go to my soundcloud and listen to what I specialize in and my credentials in MY industry. Believe me, you can say you would be, could be, should be prepared, but being in the situation when it happens is much much different. Any great sets take planning and meticulous construction, even if it's only a couple of minutes. Especially with house music.



all im hearing is excuses. just because you are dj pm that plays/produces house, doesnt mean you can be dj pete that plays at bottle service gigs for money and dj experience. Daniel from La riots is one person that comes to mind that hasnt had any problem with doing both.



The LA Riots? That's who you used as a reference? How about Richie Hawtin, Tiesto, Robbie Rivera, Above and Beyond, Cosmic Gate, ATB....need I continue? The LA Riots are not strictly house music either, I've seen them multiple times drop hip hop. I'm not attacking you my friend, I'm simply stating that in order to judge someone in the house culture, you must completely understand house music and bringing up the LA Riots definitely doesn't do that justice. I spin what I choose to spin, if people like hip hop, great, but I like playing house. It's two different arts that are INCOMPARABLE. If you think spinning house is easy then odds are you aren't spinning it right. The mixes should be seamless and incapable of being told apart from an untrained ear. Hip Hop is choppy because the beats are different in their entirety most of the time. House is all about harmonies. I can sit here and bash hip hop DJ's for not harmonizing sometimes but I don't because in their art, I must respect their specific craft.


using ritchie hawtin and atb in the same point seems to be a wide argument. Im not hearing any minimal techno or techno at all from you. Im not the one that is arguing the point that its easy or requires no talent to spin tech house or techno or any music that isnt turtablized til i wanna kill myself. Ive said that often in this forum. thats torch and he clearly doesnt know what the hell hes talking about.

the bottom line is you made several statements that were a bit questionable. even when you said if i had 10 mins i would kill the comp. Would you? you can mix house sets in 10 mins either, if you are talking about what you are talking about in terms of harmonic mixing, and seemless mixing. As we both know if you are house dj playing for a big club, you are probably only gonna mix 2 songs in that time.
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i totally get that, but because you go take a pop gig, its not going to ruin your rep. I'm in a similar situation, because i never wanted to play pop music, or terrible club music, but if its a gig that i can take, because i keep up with hip hop/edm/underground house/techno, i can take all these gigs. People know i can play both, so i get booked for pop or underground gigs. Of course 7 years of being bottle service dude in my area, doesnt always help, but once i play, most people get that i can do both and my 12 years experience kind of proves im not bs'ing and gonna break out into lil wayne at an afterhours gig instead of playing club electro house/crap whatever you wanna call it.



Again, not true in its entirety. We are talking about two different circumstances. If you could go hear Swedish House Mafia spin hip hop would there house mean as much to the community? DJ'ing for paid gigs and money is a different situation than pursuing a career in music production in the international market. Gigging all different types of places is great, if that's what you want to continue doing. Don't expect to see someone club hopping on the Top 100 for house music though. They would never get the credit they deserved nor the respect. You can name a few DJ's spinning at festivals that spin hip hop but are they making nearly the money as big house guys? In that case, do they demand the same crowd even? They are fantastic DJ's but the house music market is biased and very selective, especially at Tomorrowland and ADE.


you can club hop all you want if you make the tunes/have someone make the tune(aoki, etc) that people like and get plays on Youtube/soundcloud. YOu can make press packets, get a booking and pr agent, and in the end it comes down to you making tracks that people like and play. it doesnt matter if you played a few local pop gigs. talent, looks, and popularity, mainly in combination are what makes those artists that you aspire to be.
DJ Pete Magma 9:59 PM - 5 April, 2013
I can absolutely mix at least 4 songs in 10 minutes, I can actually mash up 3 in a few minute mashup. I do it regularly at shows live. It's all about taking acapellas over a melody and dropping a harmonic drop from something else in. Not all DJ's let songs play for five minutes. Have you ever seen Axwell? Dude drops like 8 songs in 4 minutes. He is insane. That's real house performing, letting songs play until the outro and mixing in an intro is song playing. Yes, if I had ten minutes I could have done some cool stuff but neither here nor there, that's not meant as an excuse, it was taken from a conversation I was having. Again, TV.
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Dosent matter, using you own logic deadmau5 is an edm artist wuth an edm label who signed the biggest name in dubstep to his edm lable, you wanna know why it worked well.....
CAUSE ITS ALL EDM LOL
DJ Pete Magma 10:00 PM - 5 April, 2013
Ok, so name me 5 give in the top 20 that played hip hop clubs or pop clubs. Name 3. You can't, because they haven't. That's the difference between being a house music purist and an open format DJ. Those guys were playing underground raves man. Believe me, I've seen Angello and many of them before they even blew up. All house.
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I can absolutely mix at least 4 songs in 10 minutes, I can actually mash up 3 in a few minute mashup. I do it regularly at shows live. It's all about taking acapellas over a melody and dropping a harmonic drop from something else in. Not all DJ's let songs play for five minutes. Have you ever seen Axwell? Dude drops like 8 songs in 4 minutes. He is insane. That's real house performing, letting songs play until the outro and mixing in an intro is song playing. Yes, if I had ten minutes I could have done some cool stuff but neither here nor there, that's not meant as an excuse, it was taken from a conversation I was having. Again, TV.


THIS people who dont attend shows wouldnt know but quickixings big in edm now...its not about long blends you gotta get to those drops!!
DJ Pete Magma 10:02 PM - 5 April, 2013
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Dosent matter, using you own logic deadmau5 is an edm artist wuth an edm label who signed the biggest name in dubstep to his edm lable, you wanna know why it worked well.....
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EDM is ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC. House is not the same thing in its entirety. Many sub genre's.
DJ Pete Magma 10:03 PM - 5 April, 2013
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THIS people who dont attend shows wouldnt know but quickixings big in edm now...its not about long blends you gotta get to those drops!!


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that's called business




Dosent matter, using you own logic deadmau5 is an edm artist wuth an edm label who signed the biggest name in dubstep to his edm lable, you wanna know why it worked well.....
CAUSE ITS ALL EDM LOL




EDM is ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC. House is not the same thing in its entirety. Many sub genre's.

Im not talkin bout house im talkn bout trap dubstep dnb
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:07 PM - 5 April, 2013
I know my edm damnit IM PLURER THAN A MUTHAFUKA!!!! LOL
Mr. Goodkat 10:11 PM - 5 April, 2013
of course, ive been to the festivals, i know how people mix, i regularly open for big name djs. and im not saying they were playing madonna before they took the big stage, im just saying that at some level where they werent only playing big festivals and raves. many played in smaller club at some level in their career(1-500 people). And im only saying having the skills of doing quick mixing(which you say you have) easily translates into creating a short set of hip hop and or pop. as i stated before, if nothing else go to a club or call a friend thats a dj that plays that stuff and take notes, before you go to a major contest that gonna be on tv instead of making yourself look foolish. Im not saying its bad to be a house dj or producer or that you have to kill your name by doing anything of house. If anything hip hop is easy to drop and baby scratch in tracks. even if you had done that well, you would have looked better than 80% of the people on the show, editing or not.
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AKEIM 10:23 PM - 5 April, 2013
Great another bezzle logical connection thread.
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Dj-M.Bezzle 10:25 PM - 5 April, 2013
i know my EDM, look at this black eye peaz megamix i made lol
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djaction 12:05 AM - 6 April, 2013
@bezzle .. uh ok? so house edm falls around the 128bpm mark.. and your trapstep/dubstep etc falls around 70.. wow 2 limited BPM ranges. hooray.

vs playing the entire range of bpms..
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:06 AM - 6 April, 2013
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Joshua Carl 12:37 AM - 6 April, 2013
Not this debate again....ugh.
DJ Pete Magma 2:30 AM - 6 April, 2013
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Ok, so name me 5 give in the top 20 that played hip hop clubs or pop clubs. Name 3. You can't, because they haven't. That's the difference between being a house music purist and an open format DJ. Those guys were playing underground raves man. Believe me, I've seen Angello and many of them before they even blew up. All house.


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Did you just bring a Skam Artist DJ into a house conversation?! Dude, I like Bad Boy Bill. But, once again, we are talking about PURE HOUSE DJ's. We are not talking about guys like Bad Boy Bill, who is a SICK DJ, but is apples to oranges when it comes to Angello, Deadmau5, etc. I'm yet to see someone bring up Junior Vasquez, Junior Sanchez, Carl Cox. Those guys hang out in Ibiza all day, I know that because I'm spinning with them this summer in Ibiza. Those are the guys to refer to. Put it this way, any huge house DJ has played Space and Bora Bora. If they haven't, they aren't truly on the house scene as of yet. You need to realize the difference between music lover clubs and clubs that bring in the most people to get a bang for their buck. Huge, huge difference. Space has NEVER had a "hip hop" night like most of these smaller clubs do. They need to keep their doors open so more power to them, but don't try and compare because there is absolutely no comparison. Space in Ibiza feels like your main stage at Ultra. Completely different league of nightclub. EDM has gone corporate here, and once something goes corporate it is milked for all it's worth and thrown aside. Europe has had a strong house scene for over 20 years, that same scene is starting to fizzle out here in less than a year. Anyone care to speculate on why? Corporate involvement. It loses its purity and becomes a cash cow. Also, in Europe, people dance at festivals. Everyone jumps up in the air at these local festivals. It feels great to know you're making people dance. Making people jump is easy, throw on a ridiculous hard, noisy sound and put a high synth over it. Boom, all of a sudden you're a pro. Nicky Romero doesn't even really play hard house in the European market, he's all tech and deep house/funky house. Again, I chose to stick to my brand, not that I couldn't baby scratch because I can scratch, I had no interest in repping myself that way and absolutely nothing to prove to a mostly hip hop oriented panel and viewers. I spin house, I'll always spin house and I have zero interest in spinning hip hop. Why go against your own brand?
DJ Pete Magma 2:36 AM - 6 April, 2013
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@bezzle .. uh ok? so house edm falls around the 128bpm mark.. and your trapstep/dubstep etc falls around 70.. wow 2 limited BPM ranges. hooray.

vs playing the entire range of bpms..



Firstly, house and "edm" which isn't even a genre, it's a marketing tactic, fall under WAY more than 128. That's the problem here, no one gives credit where credit is due. House ranges into the 140's depending on the type. Trance especially. Trap and Dub run into the 80's. Again, it's not the fact of NOT BEING ABLE TO spin those genre's, it's the fact of WHY SPIN THEM WHEN IT'S NOT WHAT YOUR TRYING TO GAIN FAME IN? You might think it doesn't affect you, but I ASSURE you man, I have experienced FIRST HAND that it does affect you and certain clubs WILL NOT TOUCH YOU if you have any hip hop venues on your EPK. I've spun 250 venues here and in 8 countries, including Dubai, the international market is WAY different than the market in the U.S. and they don't take risks on hip hop DJ's because there crowds at those venues will simply walk out. Most of those places don't even get the same hip hop being released here until way after the fact. You walk into Tunisia or Amsterdam and drop the new Rick Ross record. They will look at you like you have 8 heads. Fact. That's why I switched and won't spin hip hop anymore, not worth undoing all my hard work for 20 seconds that people will forget about in 2 months.
DJ Pete Magma 2:39 AM - 6 April, 2013



Mix wasn't bad homie keep doing your thing. I suggest though, possibly staying away from the Black Eyed Peas when in a house discussion because purists will jump all over that. i12inch.com has a good house selection and livingelectro.com as well. Mostly forums have the exclusive stuff you won't hear anywhere and that most Top 100 guys use. Rock out brother.
DJ Pete Magma 2:40 AM - 6 April, 2013
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^im sooooooo amped for tommarowland this year!!!!!!


Me2! I'm going for sure, I want to book Electric Zoo in NY this year, talking about it with people there now. That would be an insane experience, especially cuz I'm from NY lol.
DJ SPAIR 2:49 AM - 6 April, 2013



I'll always spin house and I have zero interest in spinning hip hop. Why go against your own brand?


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that's not house man. just sayin..
DJ Pete Magma 2:52 AM - 6 April, 2013
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I'll always spin house and I have zero interest in spinning hip hop. Why go against your own brand?


Watchwww.youtube.com 1:53

that's not house man. just sayin..


Clearly. Did you read the post that I said I stopped 2 years ago. That was 2 years ago, or maybe even more. Thank you for finding that though, did you happen to hear the transforms and crabs through the noise? Like I said, I CAN scratch, just choose not too.
DJ Pete Magma 2:53 AM - 6 April, 2013
It's funny because you're probably the only one on this whole forum trying to come at me, yet other DJ's on here know the situation they saw and have concluded that something "probably wasn't right". There's a reason for that.
DJ SPAIR 2:55 AM - 6 April, 2013
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It's funny because you're probably the only one on this whole forum trying to come at me, yet other DJ's on here know the situation they saw and have concluded that something "probably wasn't right". There's a reason for that.


Honestly.. I'm bored.I have nothing against You I'm just keeping it real. That's what I do here when I frequent these forms.
DJ SPAIR 2:57 AM - 6 April, 2013
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I'll always spin house and I have zero interest in spinning hip hop. Why go against your own brand?


Watchwww.youtube.com 1:53

that's not house man. just sayin..


Clearly. Did you read the post that I said I stopped 2 years ago. That was 2 years ago, or maybe even more. Thank you for finding that though, did you happen to hear the transforms and crabs through the noise? Like I said, I CAN scratch, just choose not too.


Sorry I did not read the post. The scratching was ok. Not bad but nothing to write home about. The only reason I say this is because I'm advocate when it comes to scratching.
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Stalkers are funny. lol

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DJ Pete Magma 3:20 AM - 6 April, 2013
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I'll always spin house and I have zero interest in spinning hip hop. Why go against your own brand?


Watchwww.youtube.com 1:53

that's not house man. just sayin..


Clearly. Did you read the post that I said I stopped 2 years ago. That was 2 years ago, or maybe even more. Thank you for finding that though, did you happen to hear the transforms and crabs through the noise? Like I said, I CAN scratch, just choose not too.


Sorry I did not read the post. The scratching was ok. Not bad but nothing to write home about. The only reason I say this is because I'm advocate when it comes to scratching.


Exactly, I'm not a DMC champ, never claimed to be, but I can scratch. End of the day, TV is TV, could have happened to any one of us. Nonetheless, It was a pleasure meeting you my man. Hit me on Twitter @Realdjpm and I'll follow you homie.
DJTorchmusic 3:51 AM - 6 April, 2013
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Mix wasn't bad homie keep doing your thing. I suggest though, possibly staying away from the Black Eyed Peas when in a house discussion because purists will jump all over that. i12inch.com has a good house selection and livingelectro.com as well. Mostly forums have the exclusive stuff you won't hear anywhere and that most Top 100 guys use. Rock out brother.


Thanks and your 150% correct about house purists, jumping all over some of my selections. It's kinda why I named it a "Party" mix because the mix is made for a general public who" just wanna party".

I appreciate the references, though. I will look into both sources.
DJ Pete Magma 4:06 AM - 6 April, 2013
No doubt my man. Believe me I know ALL ABOUT people jumping on you over something lol. It's all good though, each person has unique music and a unique vision. It's art. People told picasso he was whack too, look at him today.
DJTorchmusic 4:48 AM - 6 April, 2013
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No doubt my man. Believe me I know ALL ABOUT people jumping on you over something lol. It's all good though, each person has unique music and a unique vision. It's art. People told picasso he was whack too, look at him today.


LOL! Yeh...he's dead...lol j/k. I feel you tho.

Haters will always be around. Release that pain and anger into your mixes. You will then create something that will make you stronger. When you feel bad about what people say about you, think about how far you've come and that it's only because you are succeeding that it's all happening like this. It sounds crazy, but it's better to perform well and be dissed in front of thousands than to be dissed by no one. If you're dissed by no one, then no one is listening to you lol!
DJ Pete Magma 7:13 AM - 6 April, 2013
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No doubt my man. Believe me I know ALL ABOUT people jumping on you over something lol. It's all good though, each person has unique music and a unique vision. It's art. People told picasso he was whack too, look at him today.


LOL! Yeh...he's dead...lol j/k. I feel you tho.

Haters will always be around. Release that pain and anger into your mixes. You will then create something that will make you stronger. When you feel bad about what people say about you, think about how far you've come and that it's only because you are succeeding that it's all happening like this. It sounds crazy, but it's better to perform well and be dissed in front of thousands than to be dissed by no one. If you're dissed by no one, then no one is listening to you lol!


You're a real dude homie. Very well said. Respect my man. Hit me up on Twitter @realdjpm let's connect on there
Good3go85 9:12 AM - 6 April, 2013
Hate how this show is edited. Its not for anybody who knows anything about djing. You cant hear the blends,cuts,transitions between songs. WACK
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:18 AM - 6 April, 2013
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Hate how this show is edited. Its not for anybody who knows anything about djing. You cant hear the blends,cuts,transitions between songs. WACK

thats because skills dont matter, its a BET and SMIRINOFF commercial, trust me if they could book paris hilton top be their DJ company face for the price of some well connected reigonal guy who gets to say he won a contest
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:50 PM - 6 April, 2013
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Hate how this show is edited. Its not for anybody who knows anything about djing. You cant hear the blends,cuts,transitions between songs. WACK

thats because skills dont matter, its a BET and SMIRINOFF commercial, trust me if they could book paris hilton top be their DJ company face for the price of some well connected reigonal guy who gets to say he won a contest


I thought this was on VH1.
DJ Quartz 3:40 PM - 6 April, 2013
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No doubt my man. Believe me I know ALL ABOUT people jumping on you over something lol. It's all good though, each person has unique music and a unique vision. It's art. People told picasso he was whack too, look at him today.


LOL! Yeh...he's dead...lol j/k. I feel you tho.

Haters will always be around. Release that pain and anger into your mixes. You will then create something that will make you stronger. When you feel bad about what people say about you, think about how far you've come and that it's only because you are succeeding that it's all happening like this. It sounds crazy, but it's better to perform well and be dissed in front of thousands than to be dissed by no one. If you're dissed by no one, then no one is listening to you lol!


You're a real dude homie. Very well said. Respect my man. Hit me up on Twitter @realdjpm let's connect on there


Just had this same discussion recently.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:26 PM - 6 April, 2013
Well, I just saw the Full Episode of the Auditions...

2 Things....

That iPod guys is around for controversy.....That's it.

And DJ PM...

Sorry ma dude, but you should have been prepared for what they were asking for...

You've seen the show, and you were probably hearing the others that went before you...

Epic fail on your part for falling for the 3 card monte, but props for getting there in the first place...
Gio Alex 10:13 PM - 6 April, 2013
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alot of cats on there was garbage. some where just unbearable to watch. and the judges...aside from kid capri...who?!


Damn, I just watched the auditions and I gotta agree. I was cringing. I gotta say though, maybe 2 or 3 of the cats on there were pretty solid. Gotta see more of the show though to really judge.
Gio Alex 10:55 PM - 6 April, 2013
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Just playing songs, twisting knobs, jesus poses, inflatiable rafts, bananas and cake throwing is not djing


LMFAO!!!!
DJ GaFFle 11:38 PM - 6 April, 2013
Finally got to see the 1st episode. My thoughts are:

Chris Karns - because I know what he can do as an elite battle DJ, I don't think he'll necessarily win it all, but you have to think he won't be an early exit DJ. Next to Precision, no one can match his juggling skills. Not sure if this'll translate into the 'mix' though. He may be in trouble down the line.
DJ B-Hen - seems confident on the stage (presence) but he doesn't need to be like Cutmaster Swift and dance like a clown. Tone that down and you may be alright.
DJ Dynamix - the snippets I saw of his performance seemed like he is dope with battle skills and can be creative at the same time.
DJ Locsi - please stop pantomiming to the crowd; we know the words.
DJ Dimepiece - sounds like she could rock an urban crowd but she'd better show some diversity or she'll be gone.
DJ Fly Guy - why where you typing anything in the laptop? Those songs shoulda been in exact order and your set pre-scripted and ready-to-go.
Jayceeoh - the way they edited your set, I can't tell what you got. You made it to the next round though, so rock on.
DJ Tina T - nice scratching (for a girl). I'd like to see her in the future episodes to see what she's really made of.

My $.02
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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:43 AM - 7 April, 2013
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Real talk homie, I've had my share of asses in the last couple of days coming at me sideways, alot of DJ's i USED to respect. You're the realest dude I've spoken to so far so respect and much love to you man. I appreciate you not jumping to conclusions brother. Stay up and let me know if you need any mixes! Hit me on twitter @realDJPM and DM your info, i'll follow you and hit you with mine right back.


Oh, and one last thing....

Bezzle is the FARTHEST from the "Realest" dude on here...lol...

But again, that goes back to you studying WHERE you are and WHO you'e associating with...and acting accordingly..... :)

lmao...
DJ Pete Magma 2:08 AM - 7 April, 2013
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Real talk homie, I've had my share of asses in the last couple of days coming at me sideways, alot of DJ's i USED to respect. You're the realest dude I've spoken to so far so respect and much love to you man. I appreciate you not jumping to conclusions brother. Stay up and let me know if you need any mixes! Hit me on twitter @realDJPM and DM your info, i'll follow you and hit you with mine right back.


Oh, and one last thing....

Bezzle is the FARTHEST from the "Realest" dude on here...lol...

But again, that goes back to you studying WHERE you are and WHO you'e associating with...and acting accordingly..... :)

lmao...



I like Bezzle because he's a nice dude and he relates to things that go on in reality TV, so to me he's real as they get. Now, there's things you don't know that I can't disclose and you saying "you heard the dudes before you" and "watching the other two seasons" are both not accurate. The two seasons before were on BET, this was supposed to be an all around competition, not a DMC battle. I don't care how much you prepare a set, if you're not a DMC guy, you won't show the judges what they're looking for. I don't battle, I've said that 1 zillion times. Also, editing a set for ratings doesn't do justice to me and my craft, which is house. I'm a great house DJ and I book major shows because of that. Honestly, I could care less if people in the DMC community think I'm good or not, because they are irrelevant to my career.
DJ Pete Magma 2:11 AM - 7 April, 2013
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Well, I just saw the Full Episode of the Auditions...

2 Things....

That iPod guys is around for controversy.....That's it.

And DJ PM...

Sorry ma dude, but you should have been prepared for what they were asking for...

You've seen the show, and you were probably hearing the others that went before you...

Epic fail on your part for falling for the 3 card monte, but props for getting there in the first place...



I appreciate the props! Honestly, it wasn't the right opportunity for me and I'm not salty because it was an experience and that is what life is about. Taking a lesson from it goes without saying, but the biggest lesson I took is to stay in my house music lane and not even entertain these "battles". It's Master of the Mix but it seemed like they were looking for Master of the Tricks.
DJ Pete Magma 2:14 AM - 7 April, 2013
Johnny, the Ipad guy is Hohme. One of my closest friends and a RIDICULOUSLY nice House DJ. He's on there because he rocks crowds, I've seen it myself, but the Ipad stuff is definitely being played up for controversy. He's solid though dude, really talented and really nice as a person. That's the thing, a lot of DJ's hate in the battle world, but in the house world we aren't used to that because it's all about the love and peace in house music. We support each other, it seems the battle guys just talk smack and hate on one another. I'm cool on that whole scene, definitely not who I am as a person.
DJ Pete Magma 3:15 AM - 7 April, 2013
I just finally watched the episode. LMFAO! The edit on my set was hilarious, all I can say is WOW that it was edited to look like that. Wow. I'll post a video in a couple of days of me doing the set I played and you can all judge for yourselves.
DJTorchmusic 6:13 AM - 7 April, 2013
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Well, I just saw the Full Episode of the Auditions...

2 Things....

That iPod guys is around for controversy.....That's it.

And DJ PM...

Sorry ma dude, but you should have been prepared for what they were asking for...

You've seen the show, and you were probably hearing the others that went before you...

Epic fail on your part for falling for the 3 card monte, but props for getting there in the first place...



I appreciate the props! Honestly, it wasn't the right opportunity for me and I'm not salty because it was an experience and that is what life is about. Taking a lesson from it goes without saying, but the biggest lesson I took is to stay in my house music lane and not even entertain these "battles". It's Master of the Mix but it seemed like they were looking for Master of the Tricks.


They named it "Master of the MIx" because you "MIx" drinks. It really is not a direct description of what's going on.
DJTorchmusic 6:14 AM - 7 April, 2013
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Well, I just saw the Full Episode of the Auditions...

2 Things....

That iPod guys is around for controversy.....That's it.

And DJ PM...

Sorry ma dude, but you should have been prepared for what they were asking for...

You've seen the show, and you were probably hearing the others that went before you...

Epic fail on your part for falling for the 3 card monte, but props for getting there in the first place...



I appreciate the props! Honestly, it wasn't the right opportunity for me and I'm not salty because it was an experience and that is what life is about. Taking a lesson from it goes without saying, but the biggest lesson I took is to stay in my house music lane and not even entertain these "battles". It's Master of the Mix but it seemed like they were looking for Master of the Tricks.


They named it "Master of the MIx" because you "MIx" drinks. It really is not a direct description of what's going on.
I should have added "Seagrams" is their sponsor and thats' the drink they "Mix">
DJTorchmusic 6:25 AM - 7 April, 2013
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I just finally watched the episode. LMFAO! The edit on my set was hilarious, all I can say is WOW that it was edited to look like that. Wow. I'll post a video in a couple of days of me doing the set I played and you can all judge for yourselves.


Pete,

Don't bother uploading your set. You have nothing to prove to us. You obviously know what you're doing and have skills. Don't let this eat away at you. Focus at leveraging your enhanced fame into bookings and what not. Focus your energy on your career and expressing your PERSONALITY online. Focus on your "Swagg" and your "Brand". Your booking agent needs to work his/her ass off to capitalize on your blessings. When is the next time you're playing in Vegas?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:35 AM - 7 April, 2013
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Ok, I see you're easily impressed and influenced...so I'll just let that simmer...

He DOES, however have a hell of a GROUPIE/SIDEKICK team....who dances...



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The two seasons before were on BET, this was supposed to be an all around competition, not a DMC battle.


So, you're saying you didn't WATCH the show before this season, and know the general flavor?

To ME, I didn't see a DMC Battle, I just saw a bunch of DJ's, some of who COULD have gotten in the DMC, but there were STILL a gang of others who just rocked out...AND DIDN'T necessarily stilck to HIPHOP...

There were QUITE a few cats playing beats over 100 BPMS....

LOL @ the judge mistaking that HOUSE Classic for a Jazz mini set...

smh.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:37 AM - 7 April, 2013
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I like Bezzle because he's a nice dude and he relates to things that go on in reality TV, so to me he's real as they get.


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Ok, I see you're easily impressed and influenced...so I'll just let that simmer...

He DOES, however have a hell of a GROUPIE/SIDEKICK team....who dances...

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The two seasons before were on BET, this was supposed to be an all around competition, not a DMC battle.


So, you're saying you didn't WATCH the show before this season, and know the general flavor?

To ME, I didn't see a DMC Battle, I just saw a bunch of DJ's, some of who COULD have gotten in the DMC, but there were STILL a gang of others who just rocked out...AND DIDN'T necessarily stilck to HIPHOP...

There were QUITE a few cats playing beats over 100 BPMS....

LOL @ the judge mistaking that HOUSE Classic for a Jazz mini set...

smh.
DJ Pete Magma 7:29 PM - 8 April, 2013
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I just finally watched the episode. LMFAO! The edit on my set was hilarious, all I can say is WOW that it was edited to look like that. Wow. I'll post a video in a couple of days of me doing the set I played and you can all judge for yourselves.


Pete,

Don't bother uploading your set. You have nothing to prove to us. You obviously know what you're doing and have skills. Don't let this eat away at you. Focus at leveraging your enhanced fame into bookings and what not. Focus your energy on your career and expressing your PERSONALITY online. Focus on your "Swagg" and your "Brand". Your booking agent needs to work his/her ass off to capitalize on your blessings. When is the next time you're playing in Vegas?



I actually haven't played Vegas too much. I'm managed by Umbrella Group out there so it's funny I rarely play, but looking to come back soon. I'll be in Ibiza from May til August.
DJ Pete Magma 7:30 PM - 8 April, 2013
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I like Bezzle because he's a nice dude and he relates to things that go on in reality TV, so to me he's real as they get.


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Ok, I see you're easily impressed and influenced...so I'll just let that simmer...

He DOES, however have a hell of a GROUPIE/SIDEKICK team....who dances...

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The two seasons before were on BET, this was supposed to be an all around competition, not a DMC battle.


So, you're saying you didn't WATCH the show before this season, and know the general flavor?

To ME, I didn't see a DMC Battle, I just saw a bunch of DJ's, some of who COULD have gotten in the DMC, but there were STILL a gang of others who just rocked out...AND DIDN'T necessarily stilck to HIPHOP...

There were QUITE a few cats playing beats over 100 BPMS....

LOL @ the judge mistaking that HOUSE Classic for a Jazz mini set...

smh.


No, I'm saying that the other two seasons were supposed to be completely different than this one according to them, so that's where the confusion was. If I would have known it was gunna be a battle I'd of kept my ass home.
DJTorchmusic 8:12 PM - 8 April, 2013
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I like Bezzle because he's a nice dude and he relates to things that go on in reality TV, so to me he's real as they get.


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Ok, I see you're easily impressed and influenced...so I'll just let that simmer...

He DOES, however have a hell of a GROUPIE/SIDEKICK team....who dances...

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The two seasons before were on BET, this was supposed to be an all around competition, not a DMC battle.


So, you're saying you didn't WATCH the show before this season, and know the general flavor?

To ME, I didn't see a DMC Battle, I just saw a bunch of DJ's, some of who COULD have gotten in the DMC, but there were STILL a gang of others who just rocked out...AND DIDN'T necessarily stilck to HIPHOP...

There were QUITE a few cats playing beats over 100 BPMS....

LOL @ the judge mistaking that HOUSE Classic for a Jazz mini set...

smh.


No, I'm saying that the other two seasons were supposed to be completely different than this one according to them, so that's where the confusion was. If I would have known it was gunna be a battle I'd of kept my ass home.


Both of you are correct.

They did say "all styles welcome". But, they setup everything in a way that was "Hip hop battle friendly". This don't mean you're forced to use hip hop, but the transition style is a hip hop style. EDM is at a huge disadvantage in this arena.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:21 PM - 8 April, 2013
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I just finally watched the episode. LMFAO! The edit on my set was hilarious, all I can say is WOW that it was edited to look like that. Wow. I'll post a video in a couple of days of me doing the set I played and you can all judge for yourselves.


Pete,

Don't bother uploading your set. You have nothing to prove to us. You obviously know what you're doing and have skills. Don't let this eat away at you. Focus at leveraging your enhanced fame into bookings and what not. Focus your energy on your career and expressing your PERSONALITY online. Focus on your "Swagg" and your "Brand". Your booking agent needs to work his/her ass off to capitalize on your blessings. When is the next time you're playing in Vegas?



I actually haven't played Vegas too much. I'm managed by Umbrella Group out there .




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Do you live in racoon city...ITS YOUR FAULT!!! LOL
dj-freestyle 11:18 PM - 8 April, 2013
pete made it the final cut down before the show aired. just shows you how screwed up the show is. lol lol
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DJ Reflex 11:32 PM - 8 April, 2013
Damnit Bezzle - I was just about to post that!

lol
DJTorchmusic 11:33 PM - 8 April, 2013
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pete made it the final cut down before the show aired. just shows you how screwed up the show is. lol lol
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The DJs who last the longest on the show will be the ones are the most popular with the viewers.
DJ DisGrace 11:34 PM - 8 April, 2013
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pete made it the final cut down before the show aired. just shows you how screwed up the show is. lol lol
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The DJs who last the longest on the show will be the ones are the most popular with the viewers.

Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:52 PM - 8 April, 2013
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Damnit Bezzle - I was just about to post that!

lol

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Dj-M.Bezzle 11:53 PM - 8 April, 2013
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pete made it the final cut down before the show aired. just shows you how screwed up the show is. lol lol
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The DJs who last the longest on the show will be the ones are the most popular with the viewers.

Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?


This...the winner will be the one the show edited to impress the viewers
DJ DisGrace 11:55 PM - 8 April, 2013
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pete made it the final cut down before the show aired. just shows you how screwed up the show is. lol lol
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The DJs who last the longest on the show will be the ones are the most popular with the viewers.

Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?


This...the winner will be the one the show edited to impress the viewers

LOL you mean it's not "real"???
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:08 AM - 9 April, 2013
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pete made it the final cut down before the show aired. just shows you how screwed up the show is. lol lol
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The DJs who last the longest on the show will be the ones are the most popular with the viewers.

Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?


This...the winner will be the one the show edited to impress the viewers

LOL you mean it's not "real"???


lol, if anyone really wants to know how these things go down (or just really wanna kill time) adam corolla and penn jillette did an episode of the adam corolla podcast where they went over all the tricks pulled on celebrity apprentence, things like doing everyones exit interview the first day of filming BEFORE the contest so that they had usable footage just incase someone was pissed about how things went down and editing different days footage together into one string to make it look like arguments happened that didnt

He even talked about how the producers would explain contest rules to them and the rules that were aired on the finished product were completley different
monchi 12:27 AM - 9 April, 2013
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Chris Karns
I just watched the first episode of Master of the Mix online. I am hesitant to post the link to watch it online because they completely BUTCHERED my set. They dubbed in different audio than what I actually played. WOW...





www.vh1.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:39 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This taking from the FB page,,,,,,,,,,,


Chris Karns
I just watched the first episode of Master of the Mix online. I am hesitant to post the link to watch it online because they completely BUTCHERED my set. They dubbed in different audio than what I actually played. WOW...





www.vh1.com



i love the irony of forcing you to watch a 15 sec commercial before ou watch a 20 minute commercial
DJTorchmusic 4:45 AM - 9 April, 2013
This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.
deezlee 4:46 AM - 9 April, 2013
1 minute sets?
DJTorchmusic 4:47 AM - 9 April, 2013
Big Mistake Dynamix, He did too much scratching to me and didn't mix enough.
deezlee 4:47 AM - 9 April, 2013
er how long were they?
DJTorchmusic 4:49 AM - 9 April, 2013
Tina can sratch, but transitions... not enough mixing...
DJTorchmusic 4:51 AM - 9 April, 2013
Chris, same thing. Too much scratching not enough music.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:53 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.



mark my words JAYCEEYO FTW
Joshua Carl 5:02 AM - 9 April, 2013
I wish more ex participants would come out with the truth.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:03 AM - 9 April, 2013
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Probably signed a NON-DISCLOSURE IRON CLAD contract...
DJTorchmusic 5:08 AM - 9 April, 2013
Why dude get mad and leave the show. His set could have been better, like most of the other DJs. So, I assume if he leaves they'll bring Hohme back.
Joshua Carl 5:10 AM - 9 April, 2013
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Chris Karns
I just watched the first episode of Master of the Mix online. I am hesitant to post the link to watch it online because they completely BUTCHERED my set. They dubbed in different audio than what I actually l


Well, maybe not Iron
DJ Ness Nice 5:11 AM - 9 April, 2013
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Why dude get mad and leave the show. His set could have been better, like most of the other DJs. So, I assume if he leaves they'll bring Hohme back.


He really shouldn't have been in the bottom 2 over BHen. Dude ended his set a min. early..
DJTorchmusic 5:12 AM - 9 April, 2013
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I wish more ex participants would come out with the truth.


There's nothing to come out about. It's like any other competition show (i.e. american idol).
DJTorchmusic 5:13 AM - 9 April, 2013
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Why dude get mad and leave the show. His set could have been better, like most of the other DJs. So, I assume if he leaves they'll bring Hohme back.


He really shouldn't have been in the bottom 2 over BHen. Dude ended his set a min. early..


Bhen had a better set, though. Bhen was lucky, though. He could have been disqualified.
pdidy 6:15 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.
DJTorchmusic 6:23 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...
pdidy 6:26 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...

Did we watch the same show ? (scratching head)....lol
DJTorchmusic 6:31 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...

Did we watch the same show ? (scratching head)....lol


I wasn't in the same room as you. So, I can't be for sure. But, it was easy to judge them. Most of the DJs did too much of one thing and not enough of another.
pdidy 6:43 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...

Did we watch the same show ? (scratching head)....lol


I wasn't in the same room as you. So, I can't be for sure. But, it was easy to judge them. Most of the DJs did too much of one thing and not enough of another.

Are you basing your opinion on what the judges say or the actual performance ?
DJTorchmusic 7:17 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...

Did we watch the same show ? (scratching head)....lol


I wasn't in the same room as you. So, I can't be for sure. But, it was easy to judge them. Most of the DJs did too much of one thing and not enough of another.

Are you basing your opinion on what the judges say or the actual performance ?


The actual performance, crowd response (what little they showed) & my own experience and knowledge.
DJ Remy USA 8:42 AM - 9 April, 2013
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I wish more ex participants would come out with the truth.


Probably signed a NON-DISCLOSURE IRON CLAD contract...


They sure did, you should have seen the agreement you had to sign just to audition.
DJ Remy USA 8:42 AM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.



mark my words JAYCEEYO FTW


Im pulling my dude DJ Incrediboi
DJ Remy USA 8:43 AM - 9 April, 2013
www.facebook.com

here we go right here at the auditions
DJ Remy USA 8:44 AM - 9 April, 2013
DJ Yonny actually was a judge too

www.facebook.com
DJTorchmusic 9:12 AM - 9 April, 2013
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DJ Yonny actually was a judge too

www.facebook.com


The link don't work.
mic 9:56 AM - 9 April, 2013
Oooooooohhhhh!! Kid Capri mad cuz Vajra peed in way tighter butts than his!!!!!
DJ DisGrace 12:10 PM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...

Did we watch the same show ? (scratching head)....lol


I wasn't in the same room as you. So, I can't be for sure. But, it was easy to judge them. Most of the DJs did too much of one thing and not enough of another.

Are you basing your opinion on what the judges say or the actual performance ?


The actual performance, crowd response (what little they showed) & my own experience and knowledge.


Seriously DJTorch? Seriously? This is a TV show! It's edited! The crowd reaction is stock footage! The dj's performance is edited down to scraps (and may even be dubbed!) LOLOLOLOL
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:46 PM - 9 April, 2013
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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...

Did we watch the same show ? (scratching head)....lol


I wasn't in the same room as you. So, I can't be for sure. But, it was easy to judge them. Most of the DJs did too much of one thing and not enough of another.

Are you basing your opinion on what the judges say or the actual performance ?


The actual performance, crowd response (what little they showed) & my own experience and knowledge.


Seriously DJTorch? Seriously? This is a TV show! It's edited! The crowd reaction is stock footage! The dj's performance is edited down to scraps (and may even be dubbed!) LOLOLOLOL


Yup lol i cant believe torch still dosent get it please tell me hes trolling
Logisticalstyles 1:29 PM - 9 April, 2013
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I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


Word!
Incognegro 1:43 PM - 9 April, 2013
They need to have them back in front of real crowds performing and not just the three judges.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:56 PM - 9 April, 2013
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They need to edit in more footage of real crowds and not just the three judges.

Fixed
Incognegro 2:07 PM - 9 April, 2013
My bad...didnt see last night
SELECT 2:09 PM - 9 April, 2013
Can you imagine watching American Idol and they only show 5 sec edited clips and then the judges reactions. Yeah thats what this show is like. Until I see a complete performance this show is nothing more than one big Smirnoff ad disguised as a TV show.
Ingo B 2:14 PM - 9 April, 2013
They're playing full sets on their I Heart Radio station. Some of them are pretty harsh sounding. Bad transitions, etc. The one with all the sound effects didn't exactly strike my fancy.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:31 PM - 9 April, 2013
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They're playing full sets on their I Heart Radio station. Some of them are pretty harsh sounding. Bad transitions, etc. The one with all the sound effects didn't exactly strike my fancy.


I hear Mastermind was in the running -> serato.com

Or was it The_"Black"_One?
Funkytownstopsix 4:22 PM - 9 April, 2013
I have watch all 3 seaons and I will say this,,,,,,,This is the best the show has ever been edited and that's not saying much.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 4:23 PM - 9 April, 2013
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DJ Tina T - nice scratching (for a girl). I'd like to see her in the future episodes to see what she's really made of.

My $.02
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Of all the BS being tossed around in this thread,

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DJ Tina T - nice scratching (for a girl)

has got to be the biggest line of them all. FOR A GIRL! Seriously bro, you mad. Practice, maybe one day you could match skills ;)

Oh, I say this because I've known her (not personally) as a DJ for a decade plus. She rips most men to shreds.
Discobee 5:15 PM - 9 April, 2013
+1 on Tina T

She would put many of the regular posters on here, male or female to shame. And that's with using straight vinyl.
Watchwww.youtube.com


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DJ Tina T - nice scratching (for a girl). I'd like to see her in the future episodes to see what she's really made of.

My $.02
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That's like saying: DJ Sara [the 9 year old Japanese DJ] scratches pretty good (for a kid).

GTFOH with that.
Joshua Carl 5:18 PM - 9 April, 2013
my favorite part of the show thus far, and perhaps the realest? I dont know

:25 seconds
www.youtube.com
Mr. Goodkat 6:29 PM - 9 April, 2013
was that super wack mix tina t did edited or just a mess up with 2 songs that nobody wants to hear anymore?
SELECT 6:36 PM - 9 April, 2013
Last nights episode involved them playing random songs from list they were given.
DJ Remy USA 6:41 PM - 9 April, 2013
I remember seeing battle with Shortee, Tina T, Analyze, and Tyra from Siagon....not a battle but they were all scratching it up together. Gotta find that youtube video,.....I'd wife any of them up
DJTorchmusic 6:57 PM - 9 April, 2013
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DJ Tina T - nice scratching (for a girl). I'd like to see her in the future episodes to see what she's really made of.

My $.02
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Of all the BS being tossed around in this thread,

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DJ Tina T - nice scratching (for a girl)

has got to be the biggest line of them all. FOR A GIRL! Seriously bro, you mad. Practice, maybe one day you could match skills ;)

Oh, I say this because I've known her (not personally) as a DJ for a decade plus. She rips most men to shreds.


Whether she was the best or not is open for debate. But she's, at least, just as good.
DJShon Larsson 6:57 PM - 9 April, 2013
Hohme had to have been included this year just for the buzz. There is no way he'd be considered after 2 rounds anyway. It was a wasted DJ spot IMO.

- DJ EndmysetearlybecauseIcan....smh you can't be serious.
- Someone earlier was hating on DJ Dimepiece...why?
- Jayceeoh was pretty entertaining. I do agree with earlier comment re: the amount of scratching in some sets, and a few DJs are wasting alot of time between transitions. BUT..since so many of you claim the entire show is staged, faked, edited, & altered what's the purpose? I would think anyone in the competition has some knowledge of the show prior to. There are plenty of opportunities to do the research before stepping in the ring. To complain afterwards isn't a good look, and could give off the wrong vibes to potential sponsors. That is why everyone is on the show....right?
AKIEM 7:02 PM - 9 April, 2013
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It appears they choose Djs that are already established, like DJ Scratch and Yonny from past seasons. They also had to picked some people who would be great for a VH1 show aka the crazy/delusional types.


Yup


You mean those who would be classified as....

INSANE?


By akiems standard as "insane" meaning not him then yes


...as in EVERYONE but the beezle and johnny definition...
DJTorchmusic 7:03 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Hohme had to have been included this year just for the buzz. There is no way he'd be considered after 2 rounds anyway. It was a wasted DJ spot IMO.

- DJ EndmysetearlybecauseIcan....smh you can't be serious.
- Someone earlier was hating on DJ Dimepiece...why?
- Jayceeoh was pretty entertaining. I do agree with earlier comment re: the amount of scratching in some sets, and a few DJs are wasting alot of time between transitions. BUT..since so many of you claim the entire show is staged, faked, edited, & altered what's the purpose? I would think anyone in the competition has some knowledge of the show prior to. There are plenty of opportunities to do the research before stepping in the ring. To complain afterwards isn't a good look, and could give off the wrong vibes to potential sponsors. That is why everyone is on the show....right?


But, you just dissed Hohme LOL! Doesn't that mean you're joining the group?
DJShon Larsson 7:10 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Hohme had to have been included this year just for the buzz. There is no way he'd be considered after 2 rounds anyway. It was a wasted DJ spot IMO.

- DJ EndmysetearlybecauseIcan....smh you can't be serious.
- Someone earlier was hating on DJ Dimepiece...why?
- Jayceeoh was pretty entertaining. I do agree with earlier comment re: the amount of scratching in some sets, and a few DJs are wasting alot of time between transitions. BUT..since so many of you claim the entire show is staged, faked, edited, & altered what's the purpose? I would think anyone in the competition has some knowledge of the show prior to. There are plenty of opportunities to do the research before stepping in the ring. To complain afterwards isn't a good look, and could give off the wrong vibes to potential sponsors. That is why everyone is on the show....right?


But, you just dissed Hohme LOL! Doesn't that mean you're joining the group?


lol..no not at all. I'm not saying the show is a scam, I'm talking entertainer wise. I'm sure one of us here will find something they don't like with one of the DJs in the competition. I'm only voicing my opinion on Hohme, comeon now. There won't be an Ipod playing DJ winning no DJ battles in the near future. Not the place../not the time.
DJShon Larsson 7:11 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Hohme had to have been included this year just for the buzz. There is no way he'd be considered after 2 rounds anyway. It was a wasted DJ spot IMO.

- DJ EndmysetearlybecauseIcan....smh you can't be serious.
- Someone earlier was hating on DJ Dimepiece...why?
- Jayceeoh was pretty entertaining. I do agree with earlier comment re: the amount of scratching in some sets, and a few DJs are wasting alot of time between transitions. BUT..since so many of you claim the entire show is staged, faked, edited, & altered what's the purpose? I would think anyone in the competition has some knowledge of the show prior to. There are plenty of opportunities to do the research before stepping in the ring. To complain afterwards isn't a good look, and could give off the wrong vibes to potential sponsors. That is why everyone is on the show....right?


*Correction: IPAD playing DJ. smdh

But, you just dissed Hohme LOL! Doesn't that mean you're joining the group?


lol..no not at all. I'm not saying the show is a scam, I'm talking entertainer wise. I'm sure one of us here will find something they don't like with one of the DJs in the competition. I'm only voicing my opinion on Hohme, comeon now. There won't be an Ipod playing DJ winning no DJ battles in the near future. Not the place../not the time.
phonze 7:36 PM - 9 April, 2013
Wow, I'm really late on this. Vajra (sorry I won't call him Chris Karns) and Jayceeoh are in this? I guess I should watch.
Joshua Carl 7:51 PM - 9 April, 2013
the point of the show is to get a 1 year 250,000 contract with smirnoff as their event DJ for next year...
like any elimination based reality show, its rarely going to be authentic to the art its exploiting...

Im tardy to the party on the show as a hole but after a week of talking to people who i consider reliable sources with spot on observations, as above mentioned the show is a long as smirnoff commercial.
someone even mentioned that idea that Smirnoff already have picked their elected candidate thus far, and the show is just a vehicle to present him.
who has had 2 pretty much flawless reactions in only 2 weeks.... eheeeem.

as a video editor, its blatently obvious its some" ignore the man behind the green curtain" shit.
whether they play an amazing set, or a horrbile set, the editors are gogin to shape it into what they need it to be.

really though, if you cant see through the smoke, you can sit back and enjoy the show
sometimes being naive is a blessing...
Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ DisGrace 7:56 PM - 9 April, 2013
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the point of the show is to get a 1 year 250,000 contract with smirnoff as their event DJ for next year...
like any elimination based reality show, its rarely going to be authentic to the art its exploiting...

Im tardy to the party on the show as a hole but after a week of talking to people who i consider reliable sources with spot on observations, as above mentioned the show is a long as smirnoff commercial.
someone even mentioned that idea that Smirnoff already have picked their elected candidate thus far, and the show is just a vehicle to present him.
who has had 2 pretty much flawless reactions in only 2 weeks.... eheeeem.

as a video editor, its blatently obvious its some" ignore the man behind the green curtain" shit.
whether they play an amazing set, or a horrbile set, the editors are gogin to shape it into what they need it to be.

really though, if you cant see through the smoke, you can sit back and enjoy the show
sometimes being naive is a blessing...
Watchwww.youtube.com

LOL
www.theonion.com
DJTorchmusic 8:15 PM - 9 April, 2013
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the point of the show is to get a 1 year 250,000 contract with smirnoff as their event DJ for next year...
like any elimination based reality show, its rarely going to be authentic to the art its exploiting...

Im tardy to the party on the show as a hole but after a week of talking to people who i consider reliable sources with spot on observations, as above mentioned the show is a long as smirnoff commercial.
someone even mentioned that idea that Smirnoff already have picked their elected candidate thus far, and the show is just a vehicle to present him.
who has had 2 pretty much flawless reactions in only 2 weeks.... eheeeem.

as a video editor, its blatently obvious its some" ignore the man behind the green curtain" shit.
whether they play an amazing set, or a horrbile set, the editors are gogin to shape it into what they need it to be.

really though, if you cant see through the smoke, you can sit back and enjoy the show
sometimes being naive is a blessing...
Watchwww.youtube.com


If the DJs work it right, they can make close to 250K a year too. I thought they just would get 250K cash in the bank and your right. Smirnoff is paying the bill so they get who they want.

It's going to be Tina T. She's plenty good enough, she's attractive and she's from Vegas (which is a Gem market for Smirnoff).
DJTorchmusic 8:19 PM - 9 April, 2013
BTW, why did they not allow CDJ DJs on this competition? Hohme made it clear he was using Ipads like decks and I believe him. But, that should open the competition to ANY controller....Right?
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:25 PM - 9 April, 2013
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If the DJs work it right, they can make close to 250K a year too.

Huh?
DJTorchmusic 8:31 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Huh?


Reality show DJs?

That's only 20K a month making 3K a night should be no problem.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:36 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Huh?


Reality show DJs?

That's only 20K a month making 3K a night should be no problem.

Yes...thats what their competing for lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:37 PM - 9 April, 2013
Also you can bet that for the time your the face of smirinof, your on their time in other words dont plan on playing any partys that arent theirs, non-competitive agreements are a bitch
Joshua Carl 9:29 PM - 9 April, 2013
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"Shirley you can't be serious?"

It's been pretty much common knowledge at this point in the game he was using touch osc with the decks on internal and his interface was a combo of loops, rolls, cue points, filters and pitch/nudge

He WAS NOT using TONETABLE
(Which could have been arguabably a bit more impressive)

His songs were All in the 128ish range so there was no need to ride the pitch or anything,
He even took arrested development and turned it into an uptempo dub (which hardly resembles the original ) where he could have easily pitched waaay up and done a cool 92-124 transition (being in internal mode has some advantages)

Come on son!
Joshua Carl 9:30 PM - 9 April, 2013
Even scroll back and look at the hires pic of his interface, it's no different than any midi controller +/ dicers
DJ Pete Magma 9:33 PM - 9 April, 2013
The disclosing of details is not an option for participants. Where would the show be if everyone released everything that happened? They need viewers and ratings to make the show worth while so participants coming out with everything that went down is never going to happen. The only thing you can do for due diligence as DJ's is to watch the show, listen to the edits and come up with your own conclusions. I mean, if you go to my mixes and mashups and listen to them and then hear my set on the show then obviously you can tell that I didn't play how I would typically play. At the end of the day every DJ has there strengths and weaknesses. I opened for Martin Solveig this weekend and let me tell you, the dude is out of control nice. I don't care how good of an open format DJ you are, you're NOT spinning house the way this dude did. In order to master something you need to solely focus on that genre, same with hip hop. I think both genre's are great, but completely different in style. Most hip hop DJ's mix house regularly, which is cool, me as a house DJ, I'm capable of putting 5-6 tracks in one at once. That's where my expertise lies, but there expertise lies in scratching, juggling, etc. That is very difficult as well, just not something I focus on as house is not something they focus on. If you're a great scratch DJ then this competition is a great way to showcase that. If you're a strictly house guy, not so much. All personal preference.
DJ Pete Magma 9:36 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Hohme is a VERY good friend of mine. The interface wasn't used like decks, it was exactly what it is supposed to be, a midi controller. Just because it's on an ipad doesn't give people the right to hate on it. I see big DJ's talking shit on him on Twitter but it's funny that you watch their youtube vids and they are all slamming away on Midi controllers. What's the difference there? Just because it's made by denon or pioneer it's superior or more acceptable than an Ipad? This is exactly what happened when Serato came out and all those same dudes were bashing it saying "oh it's not real DJ'ing", but now they ALL use it. People love to hate, but never try and relate.
DJ DisGrace 9:45 PM - 9 April, 2013
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"Shirley you can't be serious?"

yea, seriously. At this point I think it's safe to say that DJTorch is trolling....
AKIEM 9:47 PM - 9 April, 2013
Aside from cdjs being tactile like controllers I dont see what the difference is either.

'no rotating platter' is 'no rotating platter.'
DJ Tecniq 9:57 PM - 9 April, 2013
Where can I watch the show? I've missed em all so far. Been super busy.
SELECT 10:07 PM - 9 April, 2013
Chris Karns addresses episodes- Watchwww.youtube.com
Mr. Goodkat 10:15 PM - 9 April, 2013
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. Most hip hop DJ's mix house regularly, which is cool, me as a house DJ, I'm capable of putting 5-6 tracks in one at once. That's where my expertise lies, but there expertise lies in scratching, juggling, etc. That is very difficult as well, just not something I focus on as house is not something they focus on. If you're a great scratch DJ then this competition is a great way to showcase that. If you're a strictly house guy, not so much. All personal preference.


so what program are you using to put 5-6 tracks on at once. or just 5-6 cdjs at a time?
DJ Pete Magma 10:26 PM - 9 April, 2013
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. Most hip hop DJ's mix house regularly, which is cool, me as a house DJ, I'm capable of putting 5-6 tracks in one at once. That's where my expertise lies, but there expertise lies in scratching, juggling, etc. That is very difficult as well, just not something I focus on as house is not something they focus on. If you're a great scratch DJ then this competition is a great way to showcase that. If you're a strictly house guy, not so much. All personal preference.


so what program are you using to put 5-6 tracks on at once. or just 5-6 cdjs at a time?


Mixture of all different things. Usually 4 CDJ-s, serato connected to 2 of them, 2 running only usb drives, then hot cue everything up in Rekordbox by Pioneer. Essentially to mix six tracks you need two cdj-s. You have 4 hot cues, 1 spinning platter on each, so essentially 5 tracks on each.
djdalite 10:40 PM - 9 April, 2013
i love how yall are still debating who will win, its already been disclosed
Joshua Carl 10:51 PM - 9 April, 2013
There's more to a ball game than the final score... If there wasn't there's be no espn or sports talk radio.

Where else are the people gonna go to bitch and Monday-morning-quarterback?
DJShon Larsson 11:02 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Hohme is a VERY good friend of mine. The interface wasn't used like decks, it was exactly what it is supposed to be, a midi controller. Just because it's on an ipad doesn't give people the right to hate on it. I see big DJ's talking shit on him on Twitter but it's funny that you watch their youtube vids and they are all slamming away on Midi controllers. What's the difference there? Just because it's made by denon or pioneer it's superior or more acceptable than an Ipad? This is exactly what happened when Serato came out and all those same dudes were bashing it saying "oh it's not real DJ'ing", but now they ALL use it. People love to hate, but never try and relate.


Pete, its cool that Hohme is your VERY good friend and or that he's a good House DJ. That's not the criteria for the show. There's a time and place for everything and an IPad in a DJ Battle is not going to make it. That's like complaining to the Indy 500 that you shouldn't be hated on for bringing your souped up Honda motorcycle that can run up to 190mph to the car race. That's not the equipment you use to race for that format. Not acceptable.
DJ DisGrace 11:04 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...
DJShon Larsson 11:15 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...


That is true. Which makes it interesting as to why they did it.
DJTorchmusic 11:26 PM - 9 April, 2013
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"Shirley you can't be serious?"

It's been pretty much common knowledge at this point in the game he was using touch osc with the decks on internal and his interface was a combo of loops, rolls, cue points, filters and pitch/nudge

He WAS NOT using TONETABLE
(Which could have been arguabably a bit more impressive)

His songs were All in the 128ish range so there was no need to ride the pitch or anything,
He even took arrested development and turned it into an uptempo dub (which hardly resembles the original ) where he could have easily pitched waaay up and done a cool 92-124 transition (being in internal mode has some advantages)

Come on son!


I agree with you But, I'm telling you that's his position. He had two iPads and used them in place of TTs. He and I had a discussion on twitter about this. This is me thinking. It's not his fault he was allowed to compete & it's not MOM's fault for letting him compete. This is just one of those things. He's no longer on the show because of Arrested Development. He "sampled" it when he was supposed to PLAY it.
DJTorchmusic 11:35 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Hohme is a VERY good friend of mine. The interface wasn't used like decks, it was exactly what it is supposed to be, a midi controller. Just because it's on an ipad doesn't give people the right to hate on it. I see big DJ's talking shit on him on Twitter but it's funny that you watch their youtube vids and they are all slamming away on Midi controllers. What's the difference there? Just because it's made by denon or pioneer it's superior or more acceptable than an Ipad? This is exactly what happened when Serato came out and all those same dudes were bashing it saying "oh it's not real DJ'ing", but now they ALL use it. People love to hate, but never try and relate.


Pete, The big issue I have is that Hohme was the only person allowed to spin on something other than Vinyl. When I went to the auditions with my Denon decks in my car. They told me NO! Somewhere down the line MOM changed their mind about equipment. In reference to Hohme no longer being on the show, you can't "sample" a mandatory selection and expect to stay. They chose those beats so they could see if DJs could make transitions between drastic format and BPM changes.
DJTorchmusic 12:20 AM - 10 April, 2013
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That's like complaining to the Indy 500 that you shouldn't be hated on for bringing your souped up Honda motorcycle that can run up to 190mph to the car race. That's not the equipment you use to race for that format. Not acceptable.

Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...


That is true. Which makes it interesting as to why they did it.


Exactly. Now if everyone could get on a bike too, that'd be different.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:22 AM - 10 April, 2013
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stevie o 12:22 AM - 10 April, 2013
The Whole show lost any credibility by having Chris Karns in the bottom 2.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:24 AM - 10 April, 2013
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That's like complaining to the Indy 500 that you shouldn't be hated on for bringing your souped up Honda motorcycle that can run up to 190mph to the car race. That's not the equipment you use to race for that format. Not acceptable.

Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...


That is true. Which makes it interesting as to why they did it.


Exactly. Now if everyone could get on a bike too, that'd be different.

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except in this case the show could film the race, then eit it to where the bike crossed first then the cars 5 mnutes afterward, then edit in a crowd shot from the "we saw your boobs" routine at the grammies and youd have a message board full of car enthusiasts either looking into buying a bike or bitching that the bike had an unfair advantage
pdidy 12:40 AM - 10 April, 2013
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Do tell....

who is your source btw ?.......
DJTorchmusic 1:29 AM - 10 April, 2013
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That's like complaining to the Indy 500 that you shouldn't be hated on for bringing your souped up Honda motorcycle that can run up to 190mph to the car race. That's not the equipment you use to race for that format. Not acceptable.

Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...


That is true. Which makes it interesting as to why they did it.


Exactly. Now if everyone could get on a bike too, that'd be different.

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except in this case the show could film the race, then eit it to where the bike crossed first then the cars 5 mnutes afterward, then edit in a crowd shot from the "we saw your boobs" routine at the grammies and youd have a message board full of car enthusiasts either looking into buying a bike or bitching that the bike had an unfair advantage


You lost me. What are you talking about?

TTs are not CDJs & CDJs are not iPads.

Let me make it clear (again) I have no issue with Hohme doing his thing. When Hohme and I talked, he was replying to a comment I made to MOM about having an Ipad on their "Vinyl based competition.

MOM made some big changes this year. You saw how they got on dude who scratched too much about not focusing on the crowed. At least this last episode was more like, "what can you do with the crowd" and not "you missed that rabbit scratch". I'm 100% behind that.

Things I like about the " Hohme situation" is that he did prove that you can still be a "top notch" DJ WITHOUT scratching.

Let me also make it clear that if digital gear is allowed next year, I'm going to STRONGLY consider using it.

WHY THE IPAD FOR THIS COMPETITION IS/WAS RISKY:

As much moving around that DJ Hohme did, it didn't really look like he was mixing manually. It looked "too effortless"...."too easy".

If he showed up on stage with one of thesewww.hollywooddj.com

It would have been a different story cause people could see what he was doing and the effort it took to do it!
DJ DisGrace 1:34 AM - 10 April, 2013
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That's like complaining to the Indy 500 that you shouldn't be hated on for bringing your souped up Honda motorcycle that can run up to 190mph to the car race. That's not the equipment you use to race for that format. Not acceptable.

Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...


That is true. Which makes it interesting as to why they did it.


Exactly. Now if everyone could get on a bike too, that'd be different.

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except in this case the show could film the race, then eit it to where the bike crossed first then the cars 5 mnutes afterward, then edit in a crowd shot from the "we saw your boobs" routine at the grammies and youd have a message board full of car enthusiasts either looking into buying a bike or bitching that the bike had an unfair advantage


You lost me. What are you talking about?

TTs are not CDJs & CDJs are not iPads.

Let me make it clear (again) I have no issue with Hohme doing his thing. When Hohme and I talked, he was replying to a comment I made to MOM about having an Ipad on their "Vinyl based competition.

MOM made some big changes this year. You saw how they got on dude who scratched too much about not focusing on the crowed. At least this last episode was more like, "what can you do with the crowd" and not "you missed that rabbit scratch". I'm 100% behind that.

Things I like about the " Hohme situation" is that he did prove that you can still be a "top notch" DJ WITHOUT scratching.

Let me also make it clear that if digital gear is allowed next year, I'm going to STRONGLY consider using it.

WHY THE IPAD FOR THIS COMPETITION IS/WAS RISKY:

As much moving around that DJ Hohme did, it didn't really look like he was mixing manually. It looked "too effortless"...."too easy".

If he showed up on stage with one of thesewww.hollywooddj.com

It would have been a different story cause people could see what he was doing and the effort it took to do it!

You're still talking like this is an actual competition. IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!
DJTorchmusic 1:35 AM - 10 April, 2013
about the price of two CDJS
www.smithsonmartin.com
DJTorchmusic 1:36 AM - 10 April, 2013
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That's like complaining to the Indy 500 that you shouldn't be hated on for bringing your souped up Honda motorcycle that can run up to 190mph to the car race. That's not the equipment you use to race for that format. Not acceptable.

Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...


That is true. Which makes it interesting as to why they did it.


Exactly. Now if everyone could get on a bike too, that'd be different.

facepalm

except in this case the show could film the race, then eit it to where the bike crossed first then the cars 5 mnutes afterward, then edit in a crowd shot from the "we saw your boobs" routine at the grammies and youd have a message board full of car enthusiasts either looking into buying a bike or bitching that the bike had an unfair advantage


You lost me. What are you talking about?

TTs are not CDJs & CDJs are not iPads.

Let me make it clear (again) I have no issue with Hohme doing his thing. When Hohme and I talked, he was replying to a comment I made to MOM about having an Ipad on their "Vinyl based competition.

MOM made some big changes this year. You saw how they got on dude who scratched too much about not focusing on the crowed. At least this last episode was more like, "what can you do with the crowd" and not "you missed that rabbit scratch". I'm 100% behind that.

Things I like about the " Hohme situation" is that he did prove that you can still be a "top notch" DJ WITHOUT scratching.

Let me also make it clear that if digital gear is allowed next year, I'm going to STRONGLY consider using it.

WHY THE IPAD FOR THIS COMPETITION IS/WAS RISKY:

As much moving around that DJ Hohme did, it didn't really look like he was mixing manually. It looked "too effortless"...."too easy".

If he showed up on stage with one of thesewww.hollywooddj.com

It would have been a different story cause people could see what he was doing and the effort it took to do it!

You're still talking like this is an actual competition. IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!


I was one of the first ones who said it was just a show! Ya'll the ones tho kept whining!
DJ DisGrace 1:41 AM - 10 April, 2013
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I haven't whined once in this thread.

I'm also not the one with a play by play analysis of what went down based on the final edit of a "reality tv show" put together by a vodka company and some tv producers!

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There was no "risk"! The producers invited him on to the show because he was using an iPad. Sh*t... they probably contacted him before the auditions were even held, and instructed him to bring an iPad.

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You really think that anyone actually makes it to the show based on the audition? Let me say it again... IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:17 AM - 10 April, 2013
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I haven't whined once in this thread.

I'm also not the one with a play by play analysis of what went down based on the final edit of a "reality tv show" put together by a vodka company and some tv producers!

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Let me also make it clear that if digital gear is allowed next year, I'm going to STRONGLY consider using it.

You really think that anyone actually makes it to the show based on the audition? Let me say it again... IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!!



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Dj-M.Bezzle 2:18 AM - 10 April, 2013
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That's like complaining to the Indy 500 that you shouldn't be hated on for bringing your souped up Honda motorcycle that can run up to 190mph to the car race. That's not the equipment you use to race for that format. Not acceptable.

Except in this case the race organizers decided to still put you in the race...


That is true. Which makes it interesting as to why they did it.


Exactly. Now if everyone could get on a bike too, that'd be different.

facepalm

except in this case the show could film the race, then eit it to where the bike crossed first then the cars 5 mnutes afterward, then edit in a crowd shot from the "we saw your boobs" routine at the grammies and youd have a message board full of car enthusiasts either looking into buying a bike or bitching that the bike had an unfair advantage


You lost me. What are you talking about?

TTs are not CDJs & CDJs are not iPads.

Let me make it clear (again) I have no issue with Hohme doing his thing. When Hohme and I talked, he was replying to a comment I made to MOM about having an Ipad on their "Vinyl based competition.

MOM made some big changes this year. You saw how they got on dude who scratched too much about not focusing on the crowed. At least this last episode was more like, "what can you do with the crowd" and not "you missed that rabbit scratch". I'm 100% behind that.

Things I like about the " Hohme situation" is that he did prove that you can still be a "top notch" DJ WITHOUT scratching.

Let me also make it clear that if digital gear is allowed next year, I'm going to STRONGLY consider using it.

WHY THE IPAD FOR THIS COMPETITION IS/WAS RISKY:

As much moving around that DJ Hohme did, it didn't really look like he was mixing manually. It looked "too effortless"...."too easy".

If he showed up on stage with one of thesewww.hollywooddj.com

It would have been a different story cause people could see what he was doing and the effort it took to do it!




HE COULDA SHOWED UP WITH A TRUMPET AND PLAYED YANKEE DOODLE DANDY ...SAME OUTSOME...ITS,.....A....SHOOOWWW
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:21 AM - 10 April, 2013
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There was no "risk"! The producers invited him on to the show because he was using an iPad. Sh*t... they probably contacted him before the auditions were even held, and instructed him to bring an iPad.



yuuuup, there was probably and apple commercial played durring the break to and MOM prob made a few extra scheckles
DJTorchmusic 2:39 AM - 10 April, 2013
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I haven't whined once in this thread.

I'm also not the one with a play by play analysis of what went down based on the final edit of a "reality tv show" put together by a vodka company and some tv producers!

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WHY THE IPAD FOR THIS COMPETITION IS/WAS RISKY:

There was no "risk"! The producers invited him on to the show because he was using an iPad. Sh*t... they probably contacted him before the auditions were even held, and instructed him to bring an iPad.

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Let me also make it clear that if digital gear is allowed next year, I'm going to STRONGLY consider using it.

You really think that anyone actually makes it to the show based on the audition? Let me say it again... IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!!



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torch: i understand its a TV show, im just sayin if he woulda practiced harder and done things differently he woulda won


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He would not have won, but he would have stayed longer. It wasn't his skill or lack of practice. It was just a simple "bad call" on a few beats that did him in.

BTW Tina won. No one told me, but it's clear that the she will get the gig. I'm not saying that because I'm from Vegas too and I'm not saying that because she's the best. But, out of the all the other DJs she's the most "marketable".

1. She's just as good as anyone else there
2. She's attractive
3. She's from Vegas
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:40 AM - 10 April, 2013
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DJ DisGrace 2:41 AM - 10 April, 2013
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He would not have won, but he would have stayed longer. It wasn't his skill or lack of practice. It was just a simple "bad call" on a few beats that did him in.



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unbelievable, really www.talknerdytomelover.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:43 AM - 10 April, 2013
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unbelievable, really www.talknerdytomelover.com

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJTorchmusic 2:50 AM - 10 April, 2013
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..........him still don get it

unbelievable, really www.talknerdytomelover.com

Watchwww.youtube.com


What's there not to get? He didn't lose cause he got his ass kicked. It was more of a "technical" loss. (sampling vs playing). If he "played" everyday people instead of sampling it, he would still be in the Mix.
DJ DisGrace 2:58 AM - 10 April, 2013
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IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!

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This is the first time I'm watching this show and I'm encouraged. If it's around next year, I'm in this b****. SO far Jayceeyo and Fly Guy performed the best.

I just saw the show for the first time and.....

I gotta admit I am absolutely amazed at how you were able to come to this conclusion as ALL the dj sets were edited to sound like complete shit.


It was very easy to me. Very easy...

Did we watch the same show ? (scratching head)....lol


I wasn't in the same room as you. So, I can't be for sure. But, it was easy to judge them. Most of the DJs did too much of one thing and not enough of another.

Are you basing your opinion on what the judges say or the actual performance ?


The actual performance, crowd response (what little they showed) & my own experience and knowledge.

WOW.....yall are fuuuuunny. Yea but I gave up on talkin to DJTorchmusic after he said this.......An he's Dead serious.....lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:05 AM - 10 April, 2013
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IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!

He lost because the producer's timeline had him leave at this point in the show... geeez

i just spit my drink out!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:23 AM - 10 April, 2013
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He would not have won, but he would have stayed longer. It wasn't his skill or lack of practice. It was just a simple "bad call" on a few beats that did him in.



..........him still don get it

unbelievable, really www.talknerdytomelover.com

Watchwww.youtube.com


What's there not to get? He didn't lose cause he got his ass kicked. It was more of a "technical" loss. (sampling vs playing). If he "played" everyday people instead of sampling it, he would still be in the Mix.




before the 1st DJ touched the first turntable the producers have known whos goin home when. The prize is a job as the face of smirinof, do you think a multi million (billion?) dollar company is gonna leave the decession on who represents it up to kid capri and a twiddle scratch. The producers know who the winner is and they picked people with certin attributes and arranged it to build the most drama and spotlight their boy, in other words the guy who lost the first round lost because they wanted him gone on the first round and they arranged it so that how it went down would make us talk about it and cause us to watch the next show.
DJ DisGrace 3:26 AM - 10 April, 2013
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He would not have won, but he would have stayed longer. It wasn't his skill or lack of practice. It was just a simple "bad call" on a few beats that did him in.



..........him still don get it

unbelievable, really www.talknerdytomelover.com

Watchwww.youtube.com


What's there not to get? He didn't lose cause he got his ass kicked. It was more of a "technical" loss. (sampling vs playing). If he "played" everyday people instead of sampling it, he would still be in the Mix.




before the 1st DJ touched the first turntable the producers have known whos goin home when. The prize is a job as the face of smirinof, do you think a multi million (billion?) dollar company is gonna leave the decession on who represents it up to kid capri and a twiddle scratch. The producers know who the winner is and they picked people with certin attributes and arranged it to build the most drama and spotlight their boy, in other words the guy who lost the first round lost because they wanted him gone on the first round and they arranged it so that how it went down would make us talk about it and cause us to watch the next show.

Are you implying that there are writers for TV shows? Even "reality" shows?
www.geekosystem.com
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unbelievable, really www.talknerdytomelover.com

Watchwww.youtube.com


What's there not to get? He didn't lose cause he got his ass kicked. It was more of a "technical" loss. (sampling vs playing). If he "played" everyday people instead of sampling it, he would still be in the Mix.




before the 1st DJ touched the first turntable the producers have known whos goin home when. The prize is a job as the face of smirinof, do you think a multi million (billion?) dollar company is gonna leave the decession on who represents it up to kid capri and a twiddle scratch. The producers know who the winner is and they picked people with certin attributes and arranged it to build the most drama and spotlight their boy, in other words the guy who lost the first round lost because they wanted him gone on the first round and they arranged it so that how it went down would make us talk about it and cause us to watch the next show.

Are you implying that there are writers for TV shows? Even "reality" shows?
www.geekosystem.com


I believe they know who the winner is (Tina). But aside from that, they go with the ratings. If the ratings dropped after Hohme left, he would be called back.
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Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?

It's been implied several times (even by some competitors) that the show is done shooting. It's over. Someone won. There are no ratings. It was probably filmed and edited in a week flat.
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Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?

It's been implied several times (even by some competitors) that the show is done shooting. It's over. Someone won. There are no ratings. It was probably filmed and edited in a week flat.


I know!
DJ DisGrace 4:14 AM - 10 April, 2013
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Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?

It's been implied several times (even by some competitors) that the show is done shooting. It's over. Someone won. There are no ratings. It was probably filmed and edited in a week flat.


I know!

play.esea.net

I'm out!
ToneNice 4:14 AM - 10 April, 2013
Spoiler alert, Jayceeoh wins.
DJ DisGrace 4:15 AM - 10 April, 2013
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1. She's just as good as anyone else there
2. She's attractive
3. She's from Vegas
ToneNice 4:19 AM - 10 April, 2013
Also this show is like a car accident you can't look away from.
ConstantElevation 4:26 AM - 10 April, 2013
the show is BS.... its just just caters to non Djs... smh
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The DJs who last the longest on the show will be the ones are the most popular with the viewers.

Or the one that already won when shooting wrapped up last month.... you think this is actually filmed week to week?

It's been implied several times (even by some competitors) that the show is done shooting. It's over. Someone won. There are no ratings. It was probably filmed and edited in a week flat.


I know!

play.esea.net

I'm out!


man ...i .....ehh.....i mean......i got nothin
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:26 AM - 10 April, 2013
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Spoiler alert, Jayceeoh wins.

yupperz
DJ ST 6:56 AM - 10 April, 2013
By The Way:

Torch's speculation is wrong, Tina won't get the job (surprised?).
I have a friend, who spends some months of the year in Scratch Academy in Miami.
He and some of his friends (I.Emerge, Craze, JFB) were in the final recording/taping party,
he told me last Saturday, who were in the finals (and NO, I will NOT disclose that information).

Of the iPad-discussion:
Yes, showing new technology and innovations are good. But even if Daft Punk dudes would have showed up, mixing on their Lemur-controllers, they would have been eliminated, eventually. Hohme was pitted against others using turntables, in an reality-TV-show which seeks a DJ for Smirnoff. Imagine him winning and showing up in a Smirnoff event:
- "Yeah we have this DJ"
- "He is using an iPad?"
- "Yes, but he won the show..."
- "But an iPad...??"

And yes, iPad COULD MAYBE be the interface of the future, but it was too futuristic for this competition. And besides, in the audition he shouldn't have touched the mixer, if he was so braggingly confident in his interface, eh?

And of the ratings; they want DRAMA and CONTROVERSY, so they keep some contestants just for that. I do believe they drop the wackness and eliminate them before the finals.
Just look at last year's finalists; Yonny, M-Squared and D.J.P.
Can you say that they were bad choices?
ConstantElevation 9:07 AM - 10 April, 2013
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Can you say that they were bad choices?

yes i can, like this. THEY WERE BAD CHOICES
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DJ Alkemy 12:19 PM - 10 April, 2013
Anyone have any links to watch the current series?
Dj Nyce 12:33 PM - 10 April, 2013
all you losers you have a friend of a friend of friend who's mother sisters daughter is fucking the director don't come on here and say that person told you won, but then you won't say who it is. that's stupid. just don't say anything.
DJ Remy USA 12:52 PM - 10 April, 2013
No one knows if Jayceeoh won people are just making shit up. As a matter of fact shooting for the show didnt start until March of this year according to what VH1 told me when I went to the audition. DJ Incrediboi didnt know he was on the show until January of this year the audition were last October.

I think its safe to say nobody really knows who won the competition in fact they may still be shooting none of know.

I believe the Smirnoff knows who they would like based on image but I think if Smirnoff is paying the money for the show they want to see who does the best.

If Smirnoff just wanted to pick the DJ they liked why even have a show, its obvious at this point only care about it anyways. Just doesnt make sense for everyone to say they know who one when in fact no one knows. In fact DJ Incrediboi has not been DJing around NYC since March of this year so maybe he won who knows
djdalite 2:13 PM - 10 April, 2013
^ i have to disagree

id say this thread has had several reliable sources disclose who won

plus i doubt even smirnoffs budget would allow for constant shooting/follow up (the shows not that great), the season has been filmed and is over.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:24 PM - 10 April, 2013
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No one knows if Jayceeoh won people are just making shit up. As a matter of fact shooting for the show didnt start until March of this year according to what VH1 told me when I went to the audition. DJ Incrediboi didnt know he was on the show until January of this year the audition were last October.

I think its safe to say nobody really knows who won the competition in fact they may still be shooting none of know.

False, you dont air a series until its done, how long do you thing it takes to record this, the whole think should take a week tops


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If Smirnoff just wanted to pick the DJ they liked why even have a show, its obvious at this point only care about it anyways. Just doesnt make sense for everyone to say they know who one when in fact no one knows. In fact DJ Incrediboi has not been DJing around NYC since March of this year so maybe he won who knows

The have the show to position their choice as supreme dj if the world in the publics eye
ancientyouth 3:28 PM - 10 April, 2013
Like smirnoff gives a fuck who wins.... Those execs wipe their ass with a 250g contract!
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:37 PM - 10 April, 2013
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Like smirnoff gives a fuck who wins.... Those execs wipe their ass with a 250g contract!



Smirinof def cares who wins (and i usevthe term "win" loosley), essentially theyre hiring an employee, not only that but an employee who fill be the face of their company for a year. Its not the money its the image and the marketing. You dont want qn employee whos gonna miss gigs and having thevface of a vodka company checked into rehab from alcohol poisioning and drug addiction aint a good look. Thats why this isnt a true comp
ancientyouth 3:46 PM - 10 April, 2013
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Like smirnoff gives a fuck who wins.... Those execs wipe their ass with a 250g contract!



Smirinof def cares who wins (and i usevthe term "win" loosley), essentially theyre hiring an employee, not only that but an employee who fill be the face of their company for a year. Its not the money its the image and the marketing. You dont want qn employee whos gonna miss gigs and having thevface of a vodka company checked into rehab from alcohol poisioning and drug addiction aint a good look. Thats why this isnt a true comp


I disagree, thats why they have a contest instead of hiring someone, so they can disclaim themselves if any negative situations arise...... All the "bad scenarios" you listed, would just equate to free publicity for them , so actually thats the best case scenario for them..... Overdose, rehab, death....... They would probably throw a party....lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:52 PM - 10 April, 2013
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Like smirnoff gives a fuck who wins.... Those execs wipe their ass with a 250g contract!



Smirinof def cares who wins (and i usevthe term "win" loosley), essentially theyre hiring an employee, not only that but an employee who fill be the face of their company for a year. Its not the money its the image and the marketing. You dont want qn employee whos gonna miss gigs and having thevface of a vodka company checked into rehab from alcohol poisioning and drug addiction aint a good look. Thats why this isnt a true comp


I disagree, thats why they have a contest instead of hiring someone, so they can disclaim themselves if any negative situations arise...... All the "bad scenarios" you listed, would just equate to free publicity for them , so actually thats the best case scenario for them..... Overdose, rehab, death....... They would probably throw a party....lol




Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ DisGrace 4:01 PM - 10 April, 2013
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Like smirnoff gives a fuck who wins.... Those execs wipe their ass with a 250g contract!



Smirinof def cares who wins (and i usevthe term "win" loosley), essentially theyre hiring an employee, not only that but an employee who fill be the face of their company for a year. Its not the money its the image and the marketing. You dont want qn employee whos gonna miss gigs and having thevface of a vodka company checked into rehab from alcohol poisioning and drug addiction aint a good look. Thats why this isnt a true comp


I disagree, thats why they have a contest instead of hiring someone, so they can disclaim themselves if any negative situations arise...... All the "bad scenarios" you listed, would just equate to free publicity for them , so actually thats the best case scenario for them..... Overdose, rehab, death....... They would probably throw a party....lol




Watchwww.youtube.com

LOL

smdh... IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ Remy USA 4:59 PM - 10 April, 2013
So you guys are saying you know who won? DJ incrediboi hasnt answer his phone or email in months and he normally gets back asap. Since he has been on the show he has been a ghost so Im not buying that everyone knows who the Master of The mix is.
DJTorchmusic 5:10 PM - 10 April, 2013
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all you losers you have a friend of a friend of friend who's mother sisters daughter is fucking the director don't come on here and say that person told you won, but then you won't say who it is. that's stupid. just don't say anything.


Amen
pdidy 5:21 PM - 10 April, 2013
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^ i have to disagree

id say this thread has had several reliable sources disclose who won

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"reliable sources".....really. And you know this because.......Watchwww.youtube.com
Funkytownstopsix 8:01 PM - 10 April, 2013
WHO CARES about the souces or who won,,,,lol I want a CHICK to WIN.... It's nice to see some hot chick doing her thing. I rather look at a chick anyday then some dude... O-o

Change of subject :) My friend who is not a dj was very impressed with the IPAd guy.... He really thought he was mixing from his ipads. I clearly know he was not, he was controlling suff via midi but mixing not!!!!!! I thought how clever the editing of his set was because if I recall he only touch his laptop once in boh sets to give a false impression to the public. Now I have seen guys mixing & scratching with Ipads,,,,yet he was not doing that. So could the general none dj public be fooled in to thinking so....... Well it was confirmed by my dumb friend, who by the way wants to be dj since seeing Master of the Mix.... WTH ,,,,SMH. Oh and did I say with an Ipad.
skinnyguy 8:39 PM - 10 April, 2013
does your friend like smirnoff too, now?
DJShon Larsson 8:42 PM - 10 April, 2013
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Of the iPad-discussion:
Yes, showing new technology and innovations are good. But even if Daft Punk dudes would have showed up, mixing on their Lemur-controllers, they would have been eliminated, eventually. Hohme was pitted against others using turntables, in an reality-TV-show which seeks a DJ for Smirnoff. Imagine him winning and showing up in a Smirnoff event:
- "Yeah we have this DJ"
- "He is using an iPad?"
- "Yes, but he won the show..."
- "But an iPad...??"


Exactly as I said:.. wrong place, wrong time.. no IPad is winning no DJ Battle in the near future. Now let it be Master of the IPad Mix and the innovators will breath a sigh of relief and the controller DJs can rejoice.
CMOS 8:56 PM - 10 April, 2013
@vajra WAHHHHHHHH THEY DONT LIKE ME IM GOING HOME. Grow a fuckin pair yo. Yeah your a scratch champ but the set was boring as shit (from what they showed on TV)

@ipad-herb hahahahah at this dude waving the ipad in the air like its going to fly away it he doesnt keep hold of it.


I thought it was funny how they kept saying he designed and built this ipad tool like no one else uses TouchOSC.

The shit was funny when Capri yelled out "you played 1 song again" haha.

From what they showed on TV so far, jayceeoh should win this shit.

Overall though this show is horrible, but like the rest of you ill probably watch every week.
MelonHead 9:10 PM - 10 April, 2013
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@ipad-herb hahahahah at this dude waving the ipad in the air like its going to fly away it he doesnt keep hold of it.


lol.. i thought that ish was hilarious
Mr. Goodkat 10:56 PM - 10 April, 2013
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WHO CARES about the souces or who won,,,,lol I want a CHICK to WIN.... It's nice to see some hot chick doing her thing. I rather look at a chick anyday then some dude... O-o

Change of subject :) My friend who is not a dj was very impressed with the IPAd guy.... He really thought he was mixing from his ipads. I clearly know he was not, he was controlling suff via midi but mixing not!!!!!! I thought how clever the editing of his set was because if I recall he only touch his laptop once in boh sets to give a false impression to the public. Now I have seen guys mixing & scratching with Ipads,,,,yet he was not doing that. So could the general none dj public be fooled in to thinking so....... Well it was confirmed by my dumb friend, who by the way wants to be dj since seeing Master of the Mix.... WTH ,,,,SMH. Oh and did I say with an Ipad.


it had pitch control and nudge buttons. you can dj with it like any hardware controller with no jog wheels ex native instruments x1, although you would need a mixer.
DJ Alkemy 11:52 PM - 10 April, 2013
Smirnoff sucks anyway. Their vodka is ass. Anyway, any links peeps?
AKIEM 11:57 PM - 10 April, 2013
cdj vs ipad -> eh what the dif?

(except for scratching)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:07 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Smirnoff sucks anyway. Their vodka is ass. Anyway, any links peeps?


You can actually tell the difference between vodkas?

Wow.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:22 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Smirnoff sucks anyway. Their vodka is ass. Anyway, any links peeps?


You can actually tell the difference between vodkas?

Wow.

^ true story, there have been alot of blind taste test studys that prove about 95% of people cant tell the difference between vodkas of the same stature
DJ Alkemy 12:25 AM - 11 April, 2013
Get outta here. Grey Goose has a very distinctive taste, I like GG but its a bit pansy...just a bit too smooth. And you try telling the Polish community around my area that all vodkas taste the same lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:35 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Get outta here. Grey Goose has a very distinctive taste, I like GG but its a bit pansy...just a bit too smooth. And you try telling the Polish community around my area that all vodkas taste the same lol

here's 3 differences between people who drink Smirnoff and people who drink the super premiums like Grey Goose.

1. $20
2. A pretty bottle
3. A sucker

If you do a little bit of searching on the internet for vodka taste tests, there's never a consistent winner, meaning the tastes between Smirnoff and the big brands are minimal, if any difference. Almost no vodka drinker will no which brand is which is his "go-to" based on taste alone.



^ and im saying this as a hardcore alcoholic who drinks a bottle of vodka straighgt no mixer every night
BIGG BEAR 12:35 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Anyone got any links to the full version of this program? please


When I said this program I meant the tv program,not going to be able to get it in the uk.
Sorry for the confusion
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:36 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Anyone got any links to the full version of this program? please


When I said this program I meant the tv program,not going to be able to get it in the uk.
Sorry for the confusion

lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:38 AM - 11 April, 2013
I'm not a "drinker" by any means, but I didn't know you could tell the difference between different vodkas that aren't flavored, or whatever it's called....

Learn something new erry day...
DJ Alkemy 12:40 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Get outta here. Grey Goose has a very distinctive taste, I like GG but its a bit pansy...just a bit too smooth. And you try telling the Polish community around my area that all vodkas taste the same lol

here's 3 differences between people who drink Smirnoff and people who drink the super premiums like Grey Goose.

1. $20
2. A pretty bottle
3. A sucker

If you do a little bit of searching on the internet for vodka taste tests, there's never a consistent winner, meaning the tastes between Smirnoff and the big brands are minimal, if any difference. Almost no vodka drinker will no which brand is which is his "go-to" based on taste alone.



^ and im saying this as a hardcore alcoholic who drinks a bottle of vodka straighgt no mixer every night


You get me a bottle of Smirnoff, a bottle of Grey Goose and a bottle of Vladivir (or any other cheap vodka) and I'll tell you the difference right there. You can tell by the smell, the smothness, the amount of afterburn etc. And no wonder an alcoholic who downs a bottle straight everynight can't tell the difference. His tastebuds are probably non existent!
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:42 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Get outta here. Grey Goose has a very distinctive taste, I like GG but its a bit pansy...just a bit too smooth. And you try telling the Polish community around my area that all vodkas taste the same lol

here's 3 differences between people who drink Smirnoff and people who drink the super premiums like Grey Goose.

1. $20
2. A pretty bottle
3. A sucker

If you do a little bit of searching on the internet for vodka taste tests, there's never a consistent winner, meaning the tastes between Smirnoff and the big brands are minimal, if any difference. Almost no vodka drinker will no which brand is which is his "go-to" based on taste alone.



^ and im saying this as a hardcore alcoholic who drinks a bottle of vodka straighgt no mixer every night


You get me a bottle of Smirnoff, a bottle of Grey Goose and a bottle of Vladivir (or any other cheap vodka) and I'll tell you the difference right there. You can tell by the smell, the smothness, the amount of afterburn etc. And no wonder an alcoholic who downs a bottle straight everynight can't tell the difference. His tastebuds are probably non existent!

point taken, but theres lots of studys out there that say otherwise.....im not saying its impossible there are definatley people out there who can but most who think they can cant.

Another big factor is once its mixed in a drink all bets are off
DJ Alkemy 12:45 AM - 11 April, 2013
Yeah, but your talking about casual drinkers who probably drink a wide variety of drinks and don't stick to one drink through the night. Not saying Im an alcoholic or nothing but I can easily taste the difference. That cheap ass vodka is nasty as hell. Smells like arsonic, burns like a bitch and don't taste good when mixed.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:54 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Yeah, but your talking about casual drinkers who probably drink a wide variety of drinks and don't stick to one drink through the night. Not saying Im an alcoholic or nothing but I can easily taste the difference. That cheap ass vodka is nasty as hell. Smells like arsonic, burns like a bitch and don't taste good when mixed.


might be a fun game to play at a get together, have someone turn around, pour the same amount of 2 different vodkas in some glasses add a few ice cubes, let em sit there a few minutes and see who can pick which is which
DJ Alkemy 12:55 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Yeah, but your talking about casual drinkers who probably drink a wide variety of drinks and don't stick to one drink through the night. Not saying Im an alcoholic or nothing but I can easily taste the difference. That cheap ass vodka is nasty as hell. Smells like arsonic, burns like a bitch and don't taste good when mixed.


might be a fun game to play at a get together, have someone turn around, pour the same amount of 2 different vodkas in some glasses add a few ice cubes, let em sit there a few minutes and see who can pick which is which


You know that type of game is gonna end in violence LOL
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:56 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Yeah, but your talking about casual drinkers who probably drink a wide variety of drinks and don't stick to one drink through the night. Not saying Im an alcoholic or nothing but I can easily taste the difference. That cheap ass vodka is nasty as hell. Smells like arsonic, burns like a bitch and don't taste good when mixed.


might be a fun game to play at a get together, have someone turn around, pour the same amount of 2 different vodkas in some glasses add a few ice cubes, let em sit there a few minutes and see who can pick which is which


You know that type of game is gonna end in violence LOL



everything yo guys do on that side of the pond ends in violence lol jk ;)
DJ Alkemy 12:57 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Yeah, but your talking about casual drinkers who probably drink a wide variety of drinks and don't stick to one drink through the night. Not saying Im an alcoholic or nothing but I can easily taste the difference. That cheap ass vodka is nasty as hell. Smells like arsonic, burns like a bitch and don't taste good when mixed.


might be a fun game to play at a get together, have someone turn around, pour the same amount of 2 different vodkas in some glasses add a few ice cubes, let em sit there a few minutes and see who can pick which is which


You know that type of game is gonna end in violence LOL



everything yo guys do on that side of the pond ends in violence lol jk ;)


LOL
Dj Shamann 1:13 AM - 11 April, 2013
I can tell the difference, I can't stand Grey Goose. Vodka is the only liquor I still drink and it's only for a change of pace so I have preferences. I used to buy Absolut and just finished a bottle that I had sitting there for a year, since I tried Crystal Head I was hooked, very smooth, no after burn. But it creeps up on you if you try and go too hard, gives you a warm bubble type buzz.

Smirnoff is like generic brand here, I think of old school rummies and trailer parks when I see a bottle of it.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:15 AM - 11 April, 2013
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I can tell the difference, I can't stand Grey Goose. Vodka is the only liquor I still drink and it's only for a change of pace so I have preferences. I used to buy Absolut and just finished a bottle that I had sitting there for a year, since I tried Crystal Head I was hooked, very smooth, no after burn. But it creeps up on you if you try and go too hard, gives you a warm bubble type buzz.

Smirnoff is like generic brand here, I think of old school rummies and trailer parks when I see a bottle of it.

crystal head is dope!
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:15 AM - 11 April, 2013
yall ever had vodquilla?
Dj Shamann 1:16 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Vodka is the only liquor I still drink buy


Sorry, should reword that.
Dj Shamann 1:17 AM - 11 April, 2013
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yall ever had vodquilla?



LOL no, sounds like the kind of liquor that is exactly the reason I'm not allowed to drink liquor.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:18 AM - 11 April, 2013
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LOL no, sounds like the kind of liquor that is exactly the reason I'm not allowed to drink liquor.



lmfao, its that gangsta shit

www.vodquila.com


VODQUILA is a special blend of Ultra Premium Vodka and imported Super Premium Tequila. The Vodka is made from multiple grains and distilled SIX times whereas the Tequila is made from Pure Blue Agave Plants and distilled in the Highlands of Jalisco, Mexico.
DJ Alkemy 1:19 AM - 11 April, 2013
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I can tell the difference, I can't stand Grey Goose. Vodka is the only liquor I still drink and it's only for a change of pace so I have preferences. I used to buy Absolut and just finished a bottle that I had sitting there for a year, since I tried Crystal Head I was hooked, very smooth, no after burn. But it creeps up on you if you try and go too hard, gives you a warm bubble type buzz.

Smirnoff is like generic brand here, I think of old school rummies and trailer parks when I see a bottle of it.


I liked Grey Goose for a change but thought it was overpriced for what it was. The vodka I like is the St.Petersburg brand. I used to be a Jack D man for years but I can't seem to stomach it anymore. I drink vodka straight so I definitely can tell the difference between a cheap ass brand and a premium brand, even without tasting it.

Ain't tried the crystal head or vodquilla stuff yet either.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:20 AM - 11 April, 2013
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I can tell the difference, I can't stand Grey Goose. Vodka is the only liquor I still drink and it's only for a change of pace so I have preferences. I used to buy Absolut and just finished a bottle that I had sitting there for a year, since I tried Crystal Head I was hooked, very smooth, no after burn. But it creeps up on you if you try and go too hard, gives you a warm bubble type buzz.

Smirnoff is like generic brand here, I think of old school rummies and trailer parks when I see a bottle of it.


I liked Grey Goose for a change but thought it was overpriced for what it was. The vodka I like is the St.Petersburg brand. I used to be a Jack D man for years but I can't seem to stomach it anymore. I drink vodka straight so I definitely can tell the difference between a cheap ass brand and a premium brand, even without tasting it.

Ain't tried the crystal head or vodquilla stuff yet either.


crystal heads good but way to expensive, your paying for the bottle....an WESOME bottle but a bottle none the less
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:20 AM - 11 April, 2013
i was an armadale drinker for a while, not the best tasting but it seemed to work a lil better lol
DJ Alkemy 1:21 AM - 11 April, 2013


That shit looks f'ed up!. You gotta love how it says "responsible drinking". All the while it has a skeleton with the red eye on the bottle LOL
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:22 AM - 11 April, 2013
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That shit looks f'ed up!. You gotta love how it says "responsible drinking". All the while it has a skeleton with the red eye on the bottle LOL

HAHA, ive drank ALOT of different brands of vodka and usually when something sounds crazy its acutually smooth, i took a sip of this and it tatses like straight jose
Dj Shamann 1:24 AM - 11 April, 2013
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Ain't tried the crystal head or vodquilla stuff yet either.



It's a premium brand, but when you're drinking it's an actual premium brand, not a club trend from an LMFAO song.


crystalheadvodka.com
Dj Shamann 1:25 AM - 11 April, 2013
^ Created by Dan Akroyd
Dj Shamann 1:29 AM - 11 April, 2013
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I used to be a Jack D man for years but I can't seem to stomach it anymore


Whiskey gets me too riled up, I don't drink half of the stuff I drank growing up either.

I'm a beer lover so I buy premium quality over the more bang for your buck stuff, when I buy liquor I do the same. I would rather pay for something I know is good rather than fuck around with anything else.
ConstantElevation 1:33 AM - 11 April, 2013
Fuck vodka and grey goose taste like shit.... we need a master of the mix spin of sponser by PATRON!! now thats the shit right thurr!!
Dj Shamann 1:35 AM - 11 April, 2013
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I didn't think I was going to like Crystal Head because everyone was talking about the bottle, but when I finally got around to buying some it was definitely a nice surprise for the same reason
DJ Reflex 1:36 AM - 11 April, 2013
Let's not forget Fleischmann's Vodka!

Sorry - I had to. It's all in the name.
deezlee 2:00 AM - 11 April, 2013
The difference between good and bad vodka is how you feel the next morning.
Dj Shamann 2:04 AM - 11 April, 2013
^ Pretty much, that's why I stopped buying cheap beer, can't shake off the cheap shit like I used to in the mornings.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:07 AM - 11 April, 2013
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^ Pretty much, that's why I stopped buying cheap beer, can't shake off the cheap shit like I used to in the mornings.

agreed
Dj Nyce 3:28 AM - 11 April, 2013
show is so bad peeps went from talking about it to talking about liquor. i'm a remy martin/grey goose guy even tho i drink ciroc by default. and i can def tell the difference between absolot/smirnoff and goose/belve.

the best vodka i have tasted has been Chateau Mukhrani.
AKIEM 6:33 AM - 11 April, 2013
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The difference between good and bad vodka is how you feel the next morning.


Yup


Try filtering cheap stuff in water filter - bam!

Nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:01 PM - 11 April, 2013
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show is so bad peeps went from talking about it to talking about liquori.



Technically that means the shows great since essentially its just a liquor comercial
dj red 2:04 PM - 11 April, 2013
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What someone should have done is bring out some real vinyl records to see who can and cant mix.


Dj P won last season All vinyl except for one challenge he had to use serato.
SELECT 2:09 PM - 11 April, 2013
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What someone should have done is bring out some real vinyl records to see who can and cant mix.


Dj P won last season All vinyl except for one challenge he had to use serato.


Right, but that wasn't one of the challenges. He choose to spin real vinyl. We need to see it happen. Lets hope it does.
phonze 2:38 PM - 11 April, 2013
Wouldn't be surprised if the chick wins for marketability. Then again, DJ P won last year and he wasn't really the most marketable guy. Though I can't remember if he just won money or a year long gig with Smirnoff.
Dj Nyce 2:46 PM - 11 April, 2013
back to liquor. has anybody tried the fireball whisky? had a shot of that last night. shit was aight.
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:03 PM - 11 April, 2013
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Wouldn't be surprised if the chick wins for marketability. Then again, DJ P won last year and he wasn't really the most marketable guy. Though I can't remember if he just won money or a year long gig with Smirnoff.

It was a year long gig
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:03 PM - 11 April, 2013
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back to liquor. has anybody tried the fireball whisky? had a shot of that last night. shit was aight.

Ehh its ok
DJ Alkemy 3:06 PM - 11 April, 2013
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Wouldn't be surprised if the chick wins for marketability. Then again, DJ P won last year and he wasn't really the most marketable guy. Though I can't remember if he just won money or a year long gig with Smirnoff.

It was a year long gig


He also won money. He split some with the runner up too.
4mydawgz 3:55 PM - 11 April, 2013
Not sure if they already do but VH1 should at least have the full sets on their website.
4mydawgz 4:00 PM - 11 April, 2013
Last Summer, I was drinking the Fris Vodka. Skyy Lemon is also pretty good. If i'm short on cash, I'll go for the Svedka. If I'm high on cash, I'll go for the Peach Circoc. Grey Goose is smooth.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:04 PM - 11 April, 2013
Kettle ones a good one to
Joshua Carl 4:27 PM - 11 April, 2013
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Not sure if they already do but VH1 should at least have the full sets on their website.


they have been putting up videos and stuff here and there (but some peoples sets have other music overdubbed because they didnt have the license for it.

ive abandoned watching this show after week 1 for the competition factor.
now i treat it like any other reality show, and anyone who who has ever been involved
know that the shows are scripted.

I just want to support the true people on it. if they can make bank on it for being good, Ill watch for THEM.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:29 PM - 11 April, 2013
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they have been putting up videos and stuff here and there (but some peoples sets have other music overdubbed because they didnt have the license for it.



I love the irony
djkurve 5:02 PM - 11 April, 2013
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Like smirnoff gives a fuck who wins.... Those execs wipe their ass with a 250g contract!



Smirinof def cares who wins (and i usevthe term "win" loosley), essentially theyre hiring an employee, not only that but an employee who fill be the face of their company for a year. Its not the money its the image and the marketing. You dont want qn employee whos gonna miss gigs and having thevface of a vodka company checked into rehab from alcohol poisioning and drug addiction aint a good look. Thats why this isnt a true comp


I disagree, thats why they have a contest instead of hiring someone, so they can disclaim themselves if any negative situations arise...... All the "bad scenarios" you listed, would just equate to free publicity for them , so actually thats the best case scenario for them..... Overdose, rehab, death....... They would probably throw a party....lol




Watchwww.youtube.com



BAHAHHAHA!
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:32 PM - 11 April, 2013
Joshua Carl 6:38 PM - 11 April, 2013
YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO MAKE MEMES!
www.bitterwallet.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:39 PM - 11 April, 2013
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www.bitterwallet.com

Lol!
Mr. Goodkat 10:24 PM - 11 April, 2013
from the same site, has nothing to do with vodka or motm but its the ssl forum so....

www.bitterwallet.com
DJ Reflex 11:08 PM - 11 April, 2013
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from the same site, has nothing to do with vodka or motm but its the ssl forum so....

www.bitterwallet.com



WTF? Didn't see that coming.
ConstantElevation 12:57 AM - 12 April, 2013
right... so PATRON tequila Sunrise all day everyday!!!! :-)
MelonHead 1:37 PM - 12 April, 2013
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back to liquor. has anybody tried the fireball whisky? had a shot of that last night. shit was aight.


that ish is everywhere here where im at.. almost every e-flyer i get on FB has that as their catch/pitch line.. Fireball on chill, First 10 ppl gets free Fireball shot, etc... but like you said, its aaight. I just got put on Jack D. Honey, chilled.. nice!
4mydawgz 1:55 PM - 12 April, 2013
Honey Jack is nice. Just a lil too sweet for me. I been drinking that the pass few days to get over a cold, which seems to be working.
DJ Alkemy 2:12 PM - 12 April, 2013
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Hahaha. I've heard that excuse before LOL. Irish people have 24/7 colds!
tomd05 10:27 PM - 12 April, 2013
is there anywhere online i can watch this?cant find nothing but short youtube clips..
DJ Michael Basic 12:38 AM - 13 April, 2013
Go to VH1's website to see full episodes.
Laz219 5:32 AM - 13 April, 2013
Pretty sure it's region locked, so you'd most likely need to VPN it.
DJ Remy USA 2:43 PM - 13 April, 2013
episode 2 is on vh1 now
djaction 3:22 PM - 13 April, 2013
i made it about as far as like the 3rd audition and had to turn this crap off
Phil G 8:57 PM - 13 April, 2013
for anyone outside the US that wants to watch on the VH1 website, i can confirm this works as its how i watch it

talk.uk-yankee.com
DJTorchmusic 9:18 PM - 13 April, 2013
did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!
Dj Shamann 9:24 PM - 13 April, 2013
SMH
Joshua Carl 9:24 PM - 13 April, 2013
^ wow, u serious?
Dj Shamann 9:25 PM - 13 April, 2013
LOL
DJ DisGrace 10:28 PM - 13 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

Confirmed. Torch is a troll.
monchi 10:30 PM - 13 April, 2013
Torch him!
Dj Nyce 11:50 PM - 13 April, 2013
this dude
Discobee 2:53 AM - 14 April, 2013
I didn't notice the product placement of that bottle of Smirnoff.
pdidy 5:13 AM - 14 April, 2013
Lets not allow product placement to overshadow the true message.;)
pdidy 5:17 AM - 14 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

Confirmed. Torch is a troll.

A Mastermind alias .?.......hmmm
DJ DisGrace 6:20 AM - 14 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

Confirmed. Torch is a troll.

A Mastermind alias .?.......hmmm

LOL seriously! Dude says he's been a dj since days of old on the west coast of all places, but doesn't know who Cut Chemist is?

Now I would believe it if a guy like mastermind didn't know who Cut Chemist was, but a west coast hip-hop dj that plays " a creative blend of Old School, Dancehall, Hip Hop, Neo Soul, Classic Soul and Top 40 music"
www.djjohnnym.com
DJTorchmusic 11:39 AM - 14 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

Confirmed. Torch is a troll.

A Mastermind alias .?.......hmmm

LOL seriously! Dude says he's been a dj since days of old on the west coast of all places, but doesn't know who Cut Chemist is?

Now I would believe it if a guy like mastermind didn't know who Cut Chemist was, but a west coast hip-hop dj that plays " a creative blend of Old School, Dancehall, Hip Hop, Neo Soul, Classic Soul and Top 40 music"
www.djjohnnym.com


You stupid...First for calling me a troll a then second for not knowing wtf you're talking about. If dude was anybody, back in the day, I woulda known. From in the mid 80s and through the 90s, I was playing clubs 3-4 times a week and got all my jams for DJ pools. None of this dudes stuff was given to me and no one EVER mentioned him to me. Just because you know who he is don't mean everyone else does. I asked all my friends about him tonight and no one knows who the fugg he is. They kept thinking I meant CUT CREATOR (www.djcutcreator.com) LL Cool J's DJ from back in the day.

So, before you go calling someone a troll, maybe you should get the whole story.

Secondly, My main point is he "ain't nobody". He's no hip hop authority or Icon. If he was then he would know & respect the difference between mainstream hip hop/rap, retro and underground. Calling Hip Hop Stripper music, "F*** Him. He couldn't even explain shit right. They had to keep editing his a**. If you think he's so hot, check out how many followers dude has. Not his band...HIm!

He's ain't

Too Short
E40
2Pac
Digital Underground
Tribe Called Quest
public enemy
Wang Tu CLan
Eminem
Dr. Dre
Suga T.
Ice Cube
Mac Dre
Vanilla Ice
Sugahill Gang
Rob Base
Kurtis Blow
Federation
Dwele
Anthony Hamilton
Common
LIL Wayne
Lil Jon
RUN DMC
Beastie Boys

He ain't none of them!! Ok? Stop Frontin'! Now if any of the above wanna drop knowledge on the "state of hip hop", I'll listen with notepad in hand.

STRIPPER MUSIC: How many Stripper gigs has CC done? I've DJ 100's of Stripper gigs and I can tell you right the F*** now that Hip Hop/Rap was only a small portion of the request from the dancers. That's why I'm saying, "who da F*** is he"? Most strippers like slow jams cause they can move slow enough to entice tips. This is both men and women! Here in Vegas most of the strippers I seen dance to EDM and most definitely the Go GO Dancers jump off on EDM too. So there goes his "so called" theory in this town and at least the Bay, Sac and San Jose. I respect dude as a DJ , but a Hip Hop Icon...GTFO

DUDE ACTING LIKE ROCK MUSIC IS NOW BEING USED IN HIP HOP...

YEAH ...LIKE 25 YEARS AGO...Dude act like it's just coming out and Rappers were spittin' to rock music in the 80's! Don't tell me you didn't catch that???? I can name 3, right now!

1. RUN DMC
2. Beastie Boys
3. Tone LOC
4. Diddy ( he did a rock remix of a few of his beats)

I may spin EDM and I may even have an EDM hit on my hands. IF that happens, I'm not gonna talk sh** like I'm the main authority on the Genre'! You're not gonna catch me saying crap like "Oh yeah... Afro Jack just plays stripper music". If I did do something like that, I would expect someone to say, "who da F*** is he"????


Get it?
DJ GaFFle 12:23 PM - 14 April, 2013
I vaguely remember him from back in the day: en.wikipedia.org

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He's no hip hop authority or Icon. If he was then he would know & respect the difference between mainstream hip hop/rap, retro and underground. Calling Hip Hop Stripper music, "F*** Him. He couldn't even explain shit right. They had to keep editing his a**...

I think he meant today's mainstream Rap music is pretty much based only on misogynistic subject matters that always pertain to the strip club: making it rain, dropping it low, making it clap, etc.


(nm)
DJTorchmusic 12:49 PM - 14 April, 2013
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I vaguely remember him from back in the day: en.wikipedia.org

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He's no hip hop authority or Icon. If he was then he would know & respect the difference between mainstream hip hop/rap, retro and underground. Calling Hip Hop Stripper music, "F*** Him. He couldn't even explain shit right. They had to keep editing his a**...

I think he meant today's mainstream Rap music is pretty much based only on misogynistic subject matters that always pertain to the strip club: making it rain, dropping it low, making it clap, etc. (nm)



Just took a look at a few "top 20 hip hop" lists. Out of the 20 on one, there were 3 "stripper beats". On the other 2 out of 20. In addition, many women "make it clap" in a regular club. So, you can't call a beat a "stripper" beat just because they mentioned it in the music. In addition the club culture in the ATL is different. Many of the clubs double as strip clubs and much less of them are just "Dance Clubs". Since most of the hits come from the ATL at the moment...there you go. Even still, it's not like "stripper jams" are filling up the top 20 lists. Dude tried to make it sound like that. He's basically a "Nobody" compared to LIL wayne, T.I. Chris Brown, 2 Chainz, Miguel, Tyga, Drake, Rihanna, Nikki Minaj, Kendrick Lamar, etc. This is todays hip hop artists and dude took it upon himself to take a "cheap shot" at them, calling their music "stripper music". That's like an NFL rookie taking a cheap shot at Brady, Bree's or Manning. Saying some shit like, "They need to spread the ball around more". You just don't do that!

If any of the above artists saw his interview. Do you know what they would say first?

'WHO DA F*** is HE??"

conversely I looked carefully for CC's beats and he was no where to be seen on any of the top 20 Hip Hop lists I could find. Maybe some underground list somewhere... Don't get me wrong, I like his music. I'm just making a point.
DJ Alkemy 1:16 PM - 14 April, 2013
Who the fuck is Cut Chemist?

I was gonna write an essay deconstructing the obvious and cliched points you make in your last two posts and explain to you that dissing a well respected member of the Hip Hop community (for making a valid point..and the amount of followers he has?!) when you are a complete nobody without a single shred of credibility yourself is a dumb move. Im pretty sure the way your link and comment has already started to backfire should let you know anyway. SMDH.
DJTorchmusic 1:41 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Who the fuck is Cut Chemist?

I was gonna write an essay deconstructing the obvious and cliched points you make in your last two posts and explain to you that dissing a well respected member of the Hip Hop community (for making a valid point..and the amount of followers he has?!) when you are a complete nobody without a single shred of credibility yourself is a dumb move. Im pretty sure the way your link and comment has already started to backfire should let you know anyway. SMDH.


and who da "F** are you?

At best you'll make some sh**up that may fool some people who wanna be fooled. Other than that, you're just talkin' sh**.

BTW you already wrote an essay and usually people who write an essay about writing an essay...well...that's when the credibility thing goes away. Your best call was to say something like " Well DJ, you have a right to your opinion/view" taking the higher road and at least looking mature. But, you decided to talk sh** about talking more sh**. SMH

CC is your boy and I respect that. Well, LIL Wayne and the rest of em are mine. If you think I'm simply going to sit idly by while your boy talks sh** about mine, you are strongly mistaken. If you think today's Hip Hop is "stripper music" then stop listening or better yet, playing it at your gigs. Same goes for CC too. I don't know about you, but when I play some of that "stripper" music in the club, it tends to get a great reaction.

You wanna hear my cred? 20 Plus years in Major night clubs in the SF Bay Area. 5 of those years in Strip Clubs (that's why I know what's up about strippers) 5 years doing exactly what Kid Capri did, back in the day, DJing for comedy shows. I've played 80's rock clubs in Berkeley, Electro Clubs in San Jose and My Share of Hip Hop Clubs from Oakland to L.A. If you truly wanna see what my cred then just open your freakin' eyes kid.
DJ GaFFle 1:51 PM - 14 April, 2013
^^^ DJ Torch is pretty adamant, that subject needs a new thread all to itself. (nm)
DJ Alkemy 2:03 PM - 14 April, 2013
Listing the amount of clubs you have played doesn't disguise the fact that you are just locally know. Delusions of grandeur spring to mind.

Lil Wayne is complete garbage, thats all I got on that one.

And Cut Chemist ain't my boy, he is just an artist I respect. And Lil Wayne is your boy?. I really hope you know him personally because saying he's your boy and you have his back when you don't know him would be very childish and a bit strange.

And lol at thinking that being a DJ in a strip club is ANYTHING to be proud of. That's the bottom of the barrel DJ gig, spinning garbage music to a bunch of losers and women with broken dreams.
DJTorchmusic 2:18 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Listing the amount of clubs you have played doesn't disguise the fact that you are just locally know. Delusions of grandeur spring to mind.

Lil Wayne is complete garbage, thats all I got on that one.

And Cut Chemist ain't my boy, he is just an artist I respect. And Lil Wayne is your boy?. I really hope you know him personally because saying he's your boy and you have his back when you don't know him would be very childish and a bit strange.

And lol at thinking that being a DJ in a strip club is ANYTHING to be proud of. That's the bottom of the barrel DJ gig, spinning garbage music to a bunch of losers and women with broken dreams.


The fact that you said LIL Wayne is "Garbage" is enough to tell me your maturity. and level of intelligence. I mentioned the strip club I Djed to reinforce the fact that I'm not talking in "hearsay" like the DJ you respect. There's nothing more you need to say to me about this subject. Tried to give you a way out and you decided to continue talking sh**. Look at you, Trying to sound all moral and sh**. Hip Hop has it's "message "times and it's "party" time. Sex, drugs and women has been a component ever since it came out, "Mr. High and Mighty" hyprocrite. Just like Rock n Roll.

BTW, Your comment about DJing in strip clubs shows me how much of a BSer you are. Tell that to the DJs here in Vegas. They be clamoring for those gigs because they pay VERY well. Stop talking about sh** you know nothing about! I mean it...JUST STOP!
DJTorchmusic 2:23 PM - 14 April, 2013
BEFORE I MOVE ON. I NEED TO MAKE ONE MORE POINT:

DJ ALKEMY 222 Followers

Mix Master Torch 8241 followers

Now, what was that you were saying about credibility?
Logisticalstyles 2:24 PM - 14 April, 2013
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The fact that you said LIL Wayne is "Garbage" is enough to tell me your maturity. and level of intelligence.



Oh, no he didn't!
DJTorchmusic 2:27 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Oh, no he didn't!


Yes, He did LOL! Next thing he'll say is 2Pac is Garbage too! Talk about blowing credibility.
DJ Alkemy 2:27 PM - 14 April, 2013
Hahaha. Listing the amount of followers he has as if that makes one iota of diference. Funny shit.
DJ Alkemy 2:29 PM - 14 April, 2013
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The fact that you said LIL Wayne is "Garbage" is enough to tell me your maturity. and level of intelligence.


This is just too funny. I dont think this needs a response.
DJ Alkemy 2:31 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Oh, no he didn't!


Yes, He did LOL! Next thing he'll say is 2Pac is Garbage too! Talk about blowing credibility.


Its even funnier when they just dont see it. This thread delivers.
DJTorchmusic 2:33 PM - 14 April, 2013
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The fact that you said LIL Wayne is "Garbage" is enough to tell me your maturity. and level of intelligence.


This is just too funny. I dont think this needs a&nbsp;response.


You almost did it! The only problem is you went ahead and "responded" anyways mr. 222 followers! Shoot! My backup account has more than that LOL!
DJTorchmusic 2:36 PM - 14 April, 2013
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The fact that you said LIL Wayne is "Garbage" is enough to tell me your maturity. and level of intelligence.


This is just too funny. I dont think this needs a&nbsp;response.


You almost did it! The only problem is you went ahead and "responded" anyways mr. 222 followers! Shoot! My backup account has more than that LOL!


222 (I'll just call you "DJ triple 2") Life goes on and I have imaginary studio and console to attend to. Have a nice day and remember when you questions ones credibility in public, at least have more than they do?
DJ Alkemy 2:49 PM - 14 April, 2013
Hahaha. This is priceless. Yapping about his amount of followers like that is a reflection of his skills or how well known he is. What you fail to mention is you follow near 8000 people on Twitter compared to my near 300. It's easy to get that many followers when you follow every man and his dog yourself!.
DJ Alkemy 2:52 PM - 14 April, 2013
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This is just too funny. I dont think this needs a&nbsp;response.


You almost did it! The only problem is you went ahead and "responded" anyways mr. 222 followers! Shoot! My backup account has more than that LOL!


And before you say shit like this, make sure you remove any wack as fuck live mixes you have on youtube. Hahaha.
222 (I'll just call you "DJ triple 2") Life goes on and I have imaginary studio and console to attend to. Have a nice day and remember when you questions ones credibility in public, at least have more than they do?
DJ Alkemy 2:54 PM - 14 April, 2013
Quote fail. Just look for wack as fuck live mixes in between torches drivel to see my comment.
DJ DisGrace 3:17 PM - 14 April, 2013
Delissio or Delivery?


DELIVERED! WOW!!!
DJTorchmusic 3:24 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Quote fail. Just look for wack as fuck live mixes in between torches drivel to see my comment.


You're such a loser that if someone was kicking your ass, you would simply say, "ha ha, I bet you broke your knuckles against my face".
Mike_P 3:35 PM - 14 April, 2013
Wow. Apparently this guy is a real person an not just some troll. Oh the ignorance. I can see this thread making it to the hall of fame.
DJTorchmusic 3:36 PM - 14 April, 2013
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5 views??? Really? You're not even on the lower level of my level. you got 5 views and 222 on your twitter. OMFG...and your in England...Let me guess. Manchester United is trash too...right? According to your logic, they are. So what if they're on the top of heap. Let me guess, they got lucky? Of Course. Listened to your music. Dude...you cut your samples off too short. That's why there's that pause between your beats, though I still feel you would be better of playing out (play keys) your notes.

Again...If you really wanna talk shit about anyone. It helps that you have something better to present. Both mixes and music.
DJ Alkemy 3:37 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Quote fail. Just look for wack as fuck live mixes in between torches drivel to see my comment.


You're such a loser that if someone was kicking your ass, you would simply say, "ha ha, I bet you broke your knuckles against my face".


We have derailed this thread enough already. Just go on believing you have a massive fanbase, tons of followers or your cheesy beats are anything other than a fabrication made in your head. Go on thinking that Lil Wayne is anything more than throwaway, hot trash, garbage music. Go on thinking that the likes of Cut Chemist ain't respected in Hip-Hop circles. You ain't even worth debating with if Im totally honest.

Get this thread back on track.
DJ Alkemy 3:44 PM - 14 April, 2013
Still talking about his Twitter followers. Lame. Like I said, its easy to get a lot of followers when you are following near 8000 yourself. Thats why you have only 44 followers on your Soundcloud LOL.

And whatever you say about my beats, Im confident enough that they would s*** all over your cheesy, synthy soft beats. Anyway, like I said, lets not make this thread about me v you. Too many threads get sidetracked on this site already.
DJTorchmusic 3:45 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Quote fail. Just look for wack as fuck live mixes in between torches drivel to see my comment.


You're such a loser that if someone was kicking your ass, you would simply say, "ha ha, I bet you broke your knuckles against my face".


We have derailed this thread enough already. Just go on believing you have a massive fanbase, tons of followers or your cheesy beats are anything other than a fabrication made in your head. Go on thinking that Lil Wayne is anything more than throwaway, hot trash, garbage music. Go on thinking that the likes of Cut Chemist ain't respected in Hip-Hop circles. You ain't even worth debating with if Im totally honest.

Get this thread back on track.


Sh** talker to the end SMH. You just debated for the last 30 minutes so your comment means nothing. You're the one who kept it going. I gave you a way out a long time ago.

Dude, compared to your beats, mine are platinum hits. At least I used my own melodies and not just samples with a generic drum 90s drum kit. I tried to give you some tips and you still continued to diss me. What do you expect? I'm just gonna lay down and "turn the other cheek"? If you want this done, then simply don't respond. Just let it go .
DJ Alkemy 3:47 PM - 14 April, 2013
Gave me a way out. GTFOH. Your wack. DJ'ing wise, beatwise. Call it however you want. Your wack.

Watchwww.youtube.com
Mike_P 3:48 PM - 14 April, 2013
^^The new JohnnyM???^^
DJTorchmusic 3:50 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Gave me a way out. GTFOH. Your wack. DJ'ing wise, beatwise. Call it however you want. Your wack.

Watchwww.youtube.com


Wow! You're a Bigot who likes hip hop...oooooo kayyyyyy.
DJ Alkemy 3:50 PM - 14 April, 2013
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hahahahaha

soundcloud.com

And bigot?
Mike_P 3:56 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Wow! You're a Bigot who likes hip hop...oooooo kayyyyyy.

youtu.be
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:10 PM - 14 April, 2013
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He IS very well spoken....

Spells all his words right, uses correct grammar...

Reminds me of me....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:14 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Well, there goes the grammar....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:15 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Watchwww.youtube.com


WHAT IN THE ENTIRE F*CK???

I'm mad at both of you....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:18 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Close, he's well spoken, but his grammar isn't up to par...

Such potential too.....
Mike_P 4:25 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Close, he's well spoken, but his grammar isn't up to par...

Such potential too.....

I meant the whole "delusional" part. Do you at least know who Cut Chemist is, with ya old ass? Lol Nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:43 PM - 14 April, 2013
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The fact that you said LIL Wayne is "Garbage" is enough to tell me your maturity. and level of intelligence.


This is just too funny. I dont think this needs a&nbsp;response.


You almost did it! The only problem is you went ahead and "responded" anyways mr. 222 followers! Shoot! My backup account has more than that LOL!



Wait, i have 230 followers....does that mean im more credible than alkemy....todays been a grest day!!
222 (I'll just call you "DJ triple 2") Life goes on and I have imaginary studio and console to attend to. Have a nice day and remember when you questions ones credibility in public, at least have more than they do?
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:44 PM - 14 April, 2013
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The fact that you said LIL Wayne is "Garbage" is enough to tell me your maturity. and level of intelligence.


This is just too funny. I dont think this needs a&nbsp;response.


You almost did it! The only problem is you went ahead and "responded" anyways mr. 222 followers! Shoot! My backup account has more than that LOL!



Wait, i have 230 followers....does that mean im more credible than alkemy....todays been a grest day!!
222 (I'll just call you "DJ triple 2") Life goes on and I have imaginary studio and console to attend to. Have a nice day and remember when you questions ones credibility in public, at least have more than they do?

Wait, i have 230 followers....does that mean im more credible than alkemy....todays been a grest day!!
Mr. Goodkat 5:22 PM - 14 April, 2013
back to the show. i hate to be isiah thomas(larry bird diss), but there are too many ladies relying on being ladies. if they were men they would be average to below average.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:55 PM - 14 April, 2013
lol perfect comment

"The Current State ov Hip Hop is that Cut Chemist is posed up pontificating next to a bottle ov vodka. Unopened."
Joshua Carl 6:24 PM - 14 April, 2013
Props for the OG celts pistons reference!

I still hate bill laimbeer.



There are plenty of friends of mine. Who specialize in hood-hop who don't know anything outside their musical bubble... One once said. Who the hell is this white dude Ztrip, and why does he have his own mixer? Is he like Pauly D or something?

Dead serious^^^
Kool DJ Sheak One 6:35 PM - 14 April, 2013
2pac Sucks!
djaction 7:33 PM - 14 April, 2013
speaking of 2pac.. i can't remember the last time he put out a single or album. is he still rapping? what happened to the dude?
haveboard 8:42 PM - 14 April, 2013
www.thefuture.fm

The full sets from last weeks episode are up here.

Is anyone else having issues with watching the full episodes on the VH1 or smirnoff site? Horrible video feed that keeps freezing on me.

And wow at the rest of this sidetrack in the thread. I'm speechless.
Logisticalstyles 8:49 PM - 14 April, 2013
Have any of you been to the local Master of the Mix auditions? They are holding several "battles" here and then all of the winners will battle it out for a spot next on seasons show. I assume the same thing is happening in other cities as well.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:28 PM - 14 April, 2013
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I meant the whole "delusional" part. Do you at least know who Cut Chemist is, with ya old ass? Lol Nm


Truth be told, I hadn't heard of him until I got on this site...

I mean, he may be an icon to some of YOU, but he never was anything relevant to anything in MY hiphop upbringing...
DJTorchmusic 9:50 PM - 14 April, 2013
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I meant the whole "delusional" part. Do you at least know who Cut Chemist is, with ya old ass? Lol Nm


Truth be told, I hadn't heard of him until I got on this site...

I mean, he may be an icon to some of YOU, but he never was anything relevant to anything in MY hiphop upbringing...


Amen.
DJ DisGrace 9:56 PM - 14 April, 2013
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I meant the whole "delusional" part. Do you at least know who Cut Chemist is, with ya old ass? Lol Nm


Truth be told, I hadn't heard of him until I got on this site...

I mean, he may be an icon to some of YOU, but he never was anything relevant to anything in MY hiphop upbringing...

No offense Johnny, but you haven't heard of anyone that has emerged on the scene post-1989.

Meanwhile, Torch gives new jacks like Lil Wayne a little too much credit in my books. Looking up "top 20 charts" to determine which producers should be given credibility? Really?
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:02 PM - 14 April, 2013
are cats in here really saying jurasic 5 isnt relevant to hiphop....da fuq is this bizzaro serato forum
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:03 PM - 14 April, 2013
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speaking of 2pac.. i can't remember the last time he put out a single or album. is he still rapping? what happened to the dude?



last single was on the django soundtrack lol


en.wikipedia.org(soundtrack)

17. "Unchained (The Payback/Untouchable)" James Brown & 2Pac (Jamie Foxx, dialogue)
DJTorchmusic 10:16 PM - 14 April, 2013
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speaking of 2pac.. i can't remember the last time he put out a single or album. is he still rapping? what happened to the dude?




Ummm...2Pac is a long time dead. Is he still rapping? What Happened to Dude? WTH? You're joking, right?
DJTorchmusic 10:16 PM - 14 April, 2013
Bezzie...Even you gotta see the comedy in that comment.
DJTorchmusic 10:18 PM - 14 April, 2013
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2pac Sucks!


SMH...Ignorance still lives.
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:18 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Bezzie...Even you gotta see the comedy in that comment.

sure, i think its funnier that the reality is hes been dead for over ten years and he has a new song on the soundtrack of a movie that was released a few months ago lol
DJTorchmusic 10:23 PM - 14 April, 2013
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Bezzie...Even you gotta see the comedy in that comment.

sure, i think its funnier that the reality is hes been dead for over ten years and he has a new song on the soundtrack of a movie that was released a few months ago lol


LOL True that. Just goes to show you how much work he put in.
Mike_P 11:27 PM - 14 April, 2013
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I meant the whole "delusional" part. Do you at least know who Cut Chemist is, with ya old ass? Lol Nm


Truth be told, I hadn't heard of him until I got on this site...

I mean, he may be an icon to some of YOU, but he never was anything relevant to anything in MY hiphop upbringing...

To have anything to do with YOUR upbringing he'd have to have DJed for Jesus. Lol. And I don't think anyone is claiming that he's part if the founding fathers. But that doesn't mean that he's not well respected and KNOWN in the Hip Hop community. I'm sure you've heard of Double D and Steinski, correct? (If not please turn in your Hip Hop card now). And thusly have heard of their "Lesson" series of records??? Well who do you think he picked to recreate the Lessons and tour with in the early part of 2000? None other than Cut Chemist and DJ Shadow. Also check their Brain Freeze mix. Oh and any of the Brazillian shit he's done. Insane.
Mike_P 11:28 PM - 14 April, 2013
^^^he=Steinski
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:47 PM - 14 April, 2013
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I'm sure you've heard of Double D and Steinski, correct? (If not please turn in your Hip Hop card now)


hands over card, shit was expired anyway, good think i got the EDM BLACK card, accepted everywhere where good drugs are sold lol!!!
DJTorchmusic 11:57 PM - 14 April, 2013
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I meant the whole "delusional" part. Do you at least know who Cut Chemist is, with ya old ass? Lol Nm


Truth be told, I hadn't heard of him until I got on this site...

I mean, he may be an icon to some of YOU, but he never was anything relevant to anything in MY hiphop upbringing...

To have anything to do with YOUR upbringing he'd have to have DJed for Jesus. Lol. And I don't think anyone is claiming that he's part if the founding fathers. But that doesn't mean that he's not well respected and KNOWN in the Hip Hop community. I'm sure you've heard of Double D and Steinski, correct? (If not please turn in your Hip Hop card now). And thusly have heard of their "Lesson" series of records??? Well who do you think he picked to recreate the Lessons and tour with in the early part of 2000? None other than Cut Chemist and DJ Shadow. Also check their Brain Freeze mix. Oh and any of the Brazillian shit he's done. Insane.


He's not a Hip Hop Icon as it pertains to mainstream Hip Hop and the general public. Maybe some "side/cult genre' of hip hop". If you have to explain to people who he is and what he's done, then what does that tell you? Let's just compromise and say he's an icon "to many of his listeners".

He already dogged out mainstream hip hop so he's obviously not an icon to those listeners. If you see him as an icon, that's great! He's an icon to YOU. But, he's NOT everyone's icon and why should he be. He just called mainstream hip hop "stripper music". Why should any self respecting "stripper music fan or artist" see him as their icon? They don't and don't even know he exists.
Mike_P 12:06 AM - 15 April, 2013
bezzle, since you were probably born in the 80's i wasn't expecting you to know who they were. lol. i was addressing Johnny.

Torch, herein lies the problem. what you call Hip Hop, i call hot garbage pop that is the ANTITHESIS of Hip Hop. i've had this discussion many times on this board. the fact that you site lil wayne as being Hip Hop strips you of any and all credibility at all whatsoever. just because someone is rapping doesn't mean that they represent or are Hip Hop.
Mike_P 12:06 AM - 15 April, 2013
*cite
DJTorchmusic 12:48 AM - 15 April, 2013
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bezzle, since you were probably born in the 80's i wasn't expecting you to know who they were. lol. i was addressing Johnny.

Torch, herein lies the problem. what you call Hip Hop, i call hot garbage pop that is the ANTITHESIS of Hip Hop. i've had this discussion many times on this board. the fact that you site lil wayne as being Hip Hop strips you of any and all credibility at all whatsoever. just because someone is rapping doesn't mean that they represent or are Hip Hop.


The problem is your trying to make hip hop something you want it to be and you know how the age old saying goes. One man's trash is another man's treasure. It must be a lot of peoples treasure because it's freaking popular.

I can safely say I was around when Hip Hop made it's entrance. People think "It's different" from the past and honestly, when it changed in the late 80's and into the 90's, it's been this way. It's not like 5-10 years ago it changed. Fools make it sound like it just got this way. Even back in the day, for every "Tribe called Quest" there was 3 or more "mainstream rappers". What CC failed to mention is the reason there seems to be more "mainstream hip hop" is that R&B sales and with it, culture" took a nose dive and ended up as a "side genre'" called NEO SOUL.

If you want uplifting music, there is where you should go! The Artists are of immense talent and the melodies are beautiful. But, it still has that hip hop flavor to it.

BUT NO ONE BUYS IT! Ya'll too busy buying mainstream Hip Hop!

What I wanna say to all those who diss mainstream hip hop and want "uplifting Hip Hop" is that the Genre's changed to NEO SOUL and you all act like it's not even there! NEO SOUL is the NEW HIP HOP genre you're looking for.

Erykah Badu
Anthony Hamilton
Maxwell
Dwele
DeAngelo
Musiq
Bilal
Common
Goapele
Lauryn Hill
India Arie
Digable Planets

These Artist are so good , they don't even have to just rap! So, if you really want uplifting music, this is where you go and CC, you and everyone else has no reason to complain anymore.

I love classic rock , but I'm not a big fan of heavy metal. But, I don't talk shit about heavy metal. I'd rather just listen to classic rock and NOT COMPLAIN.
Thundercat 12:56 AM - 15 April, 2013
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are cats in here really saying jurasic 5 isnt relevant to hiphop....da fuq is this bizzaro serato forum


wtf how am I agreeing w/ beez?
*cry*
DJ Alkemy 12:56 AM - 15 April, 2013
Neo Soul is the new Hip Hop we been looking for. This Torch guy just gets better and better.
Mike_P 1:03 AM - 15 April, 2013
you're so misinformed it's laughable. and for your information, there is still a lot of great Hip Hop [not neo-soul, smh] being made, distributed and bought in todays market. but you wouldn't know anything about that seeing as your vision is skewed by "followers" and "likes", hence you're ignorance regarding Cut Chemist. seriously, i can't even argue with you because your claims are so wild and outlandish. carry on. i'm done.
DJTorchmusic 1:03 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Neo Soul is the new Hip Hop we been looking for. This Torch guy just gets better and better.


Dude, just listen to it and stop being such a D***
DJTorchmusic 1:04 AM - 15 April, 2013
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you're so misinformed it's laughable. and for your information, there is still a lot of great Hip Hop [not neo-soul, smh] being made, distributed and bought in todays market. but you wouldn't know anything about that seeing as your vision is skewed by "followers" and "likes", hence you're ignorance regarding Cut Chemist. seriously, i can't even argue with you because your claims are so wild and outlandish. carry on. i'm done.


another biggot...oh weill...
DJTorchmusic 1:06 AM - 15 April, 2013
I'm not here to please you or your ideals. I'm here to tell you like it is. Cut Chemist didn't invent Hip Hop. was he in Tribe? No... was in Wang Tu...umm...no , I can go on.
DJ DisGrace 1:07 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I'm not here to please you or your ideals. I'm here to tell you like it is. Cut Chemist didn't invent Hip Hop. was he in Tribe? No... was in Wang Tu...umm...no , I can go on.

LOL

How is this even an argument?
DJ Alkemy 1:09 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I'm not here to please you or your ideals. I'm here to tell you like it is. Cut Chemist didn't invent Hip Hop. was he in Tribe? No... was in Wang Tu...umm...no , I can go on.


Hahahaha

This guy HAS to be a troll. Just has to be.
DJTorchmusic 1:10 AM - 15 April, 2013
Its' funny...these fools tryna tall me about MY MUSIC. I'm done. Just a bunch of haters. I"m done with this thread. for real. LIke I said before. I'M NOT HERE FOR YOUR OR YOUR IDEALS.
Mike_P 1:10 AM - 15 April, 2013
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you're so misinformed it's laughable. and for your information, there is still a lot of great Hip Hop [not neo-soul, smh] being made, distributed and bought in todays market. but you wouldn't know anything about that seeing as your vision is skewed by "followers" and "likes", hence you're ignorance regarding Cut Chemist. seriously, i can't even argue with you because your claims are so wild and outlandish. carry on. i'm done.


another biggot...oh weill...

again...
Watchwww.youtube.com
and that's the last i'll say on the subject. get yourself a dictionary and a copy of Brasilintime. smh.
DJTorchmusic 1:11 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I'm not here to please you or your ideals. I'm here to tell you like it is. Cut Chemist didn't invent Hip Hop. was he in Tribe? No... was in Wang Tu...umm...no , I can go on.


Hahahaha

This guy HAS to be a troll. Just has to be.


I'd rather be a troll than a herpes infested dick like you.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:12 AM - 15 April, 2013
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No offense Johnny, but you haven't heard of anyone that has emerged on the scene post-1989.


None taken, and to tell you the TRUTH, was there REALLY WASN'T anybody who emerged on the scene, who did ANYTHING groundbreaking in the realm of DJ'ing, that I can think of, that would really impress me.

You have to understand, I lived the next town over from DJ Cheese who forever changed the role that the DMC played in battles.

Our set of standards was REALLY high, so seeing a DJ AM, or Cut Chemist wasn't really something mindblowing to me so many years later.

As a matter of fact, after DJ SPLYCE -> Watchwww.youtube.com did his thing the in the DMC, (Craze came up after him), they all started to sound the same...

BTW, nobody (as in today's so called DMC CHAMPS) is F*ckin' with that Billie Jean juggle he did...in that routine...

The only thing that has come out since then are DVS/Controller perfect pitch bend DJ's...

I'm not impressed...
DJ Alkemy 1:17 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I'm not here to please you or your ideals. I'm here to tell you like it is. Cut Chemist didn't invent Hip Hop. was he in Tribe? No... was in Wang Tu...umm...no , I can go on.


Hahahaha

This guy HAS to be a troll. Just has to be.


I'd rather be a troll than a herpes infested dick like you.


Heh heh heh. I would be mad if I embarrassed myself as much as you in this thread
DJ DisGrace 1:20 AM - 15 April, 2013
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No offense Johnny, but you haven't heard of anyone that has emerged on the scene post-1989.


None taken, and to tell you the TRUTH, was there REALLY WASN'T anybody who emerged on the scene, who did ANYTHING groundbreaking in the realm of DJ'ing, that I can think of, that would really impress me.

You have to understand, I lived the next town over from DJ Cheese who forever changed the role that the DMC played in battles.

Our set of standards was REALLY high, so seeing a DJ AM, or Cut Chemist wasn't really something mindblowing to me so many years later.

As a matter of fact, after DJ SPLYCE -> Watchwww.youtube.com did his thing the in the DMC, (Craze came up after him), they all started to sound the same...

BTW, nobody (as in today's so called DMC CHAMPS) is F*ckin' with that Billie Jean juggle he did...in that routine...

The only thing that has come out since then are DVS/Controller perfect pitch bend DJ's...

I'm not impressed...

Fair enough, but Cut Chemist was always more about production. He just happens to be a good dj that can cut. But even beyond his cutting skills, it was still more about the type of music he played. It was an evolution of hip-hop, kind of like the Ninja Tune stuff.

And do we even need to mention J5? I'd say they were the last of the real hip-hop 'crews' to actually get some mainstream love (What's Golden - 2002). But even by then they had already impacted the underground scene immensely. What hip-hop acts/crews have really emerged and impacted the mainstream since? None that I can think of.... just loose affiliations, really. Murder Inc? G Unit? Young Money? Please....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:22 AM - 15 April, 2013
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To have anything to do with YOUR upbringing he'd have to have DJed for Jesus. Lol. And I don't think anyone is claiming that he's part if the founding fathers. But that doesn't mean that he's not well respected and KNOWN in the Hip Hop community. I'm sure you've heard of Double D and Steinski, correct? (If not please turn in your Hip Hop card now). And thusly have heard of their "Lesson" series of records??? Well who do you think he picked to recreate the Lessons and tour with in the early part of 2000? None other than Cut Chemist and DJ Shadow. Also check their Brain Freeze mix. Oh and any of the Brazillian shit he's done. Insane.


To be honest, NO I hadn't heard of them specifically until I did a Wikipedia lookup.

In 1984-86, HipHop in was so hard that we weren't paying attention to ANYBODY else, and on top of that, we were making OUR OWN HIPHOP, and BROADCASTING on the local radio stations....

See, there are cats that are checkin' for OTHER people, and cats that people were CHECKING FOR....

I belonged to the latter, and not to sound "uppidy", but it is what it is.....

There was no reason to check for anybody else's stuff, when we just knew our stuff what the hotness....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:26 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Meanwhile, Torch gives new jacks like Lil Wayne a little too much credit in my books. Looking up "top 20 charts" to determine which producers should be given credibility? Really?


Let me be clear about Lil Wayne, Drake, and all these cats comin' after Biggie...

They're whack....

Straight up...

Even the EARLIEST form of HipHop - i.e. Rapper's Delight has cats on there that flow for BARS AND BARS with some level of continuity, vs. studio pauses and tricks....

There were a FEW cats that SEEM like they can hang, but again you may view them as older, etc.... Das Efx, Lords Of The Underground, Treach, etc..etc..

No rappers today put in any time of work....IMO.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:34 AM - 15 April, 2013
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bezzle, since you were probably born in the 80's i wasn't expecting you to know who they were. lol. i was addressing Johnny.

Torch, herein lies the problem. what you call Hip Hop, i call hot garbage pop that is the ANTITHESIS of Hip Hop. i've had this discussion many times on this board. the fact that you site lil wayne as being Hip Hop strips you of any and all credibility at all whatsoever. just because someone is rapping doesn't mean that they represent or are Hip Hop.


See, you are a die hard UNDERGROUND HipHop fanatic...That's why Cut Chemist means so much to you...

I'm not, and never pretended to be...

I was as mainstream as the next cat, as a matter of fact, MY HIP HOP was really driven by whatever the Hottest 12" WAS at the time....I wasn't the type of DJ to buy HipHop albums for LISTENING pleasure, (aside from realizing that they would probably become collector's items), but I picked them up JUST IN CASE someone asked for some obscure song (that I hadn't heard of), or for something that wasn't available in a 12 inch.

I grew up on White Bread WABC - AM Radio....So I know ALL of those 60-70's Rock songs, and ENJOY them. Elton John is the baddest man on a set of piano keys.

One day my cousin came over to my house, and said WTF is this, and proceeded to force me to listen to WBLS or better yet FM radio.

At first I HATED IT, but what caught my attention was that they played the LOOOONGG versions of songs, and I was totally amazed....

Then comes Good Times / Rapper's Delight / Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel, and that's all she wrote for me.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:37 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Erykah Badu
Anthony Hamilton
Maxwell
Dwele
DeAngelo
Musiq
Bilal
Common
Goapele
Lauryn Hill
India Arie
Digable Planets


Oh SH*T! SCHOOL IS IN SESSION!!!!

I was so disappointed in Lauryn Hill when she fell off...

Chick could SANG, and RAP her AZZ off....

Niki Minaj?

C'mon son...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:37 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Neo Soul is the new Hip Hop we been looking for. This Torch guy just gets better and better.


He has my attention...he's not stupid by any means....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:39 AM - 15 April, 2013
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you're so misinformed it's laughable. and for your information, there is still a lot of great Hip Hop [not neo-soul, smh] being made, distributed and bought in todays market. but you wouldn't know anything about that seeing as your vision is skewed by "followers" and "likes", hence you're ignorance regarding Cut Chemist. seriously, i can't even argue with you because your claims are so wild and outlandish. carry on. i'm done.


Again, you two are on separate sides of the HipHop coin - Cut Chemist doesn't impress ME, nor does Lil Wayne, but I can see both of your sides....

Y'all can live in peace...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:42 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I love classic rock , but I'm not a big fan of heavy metal. But, I don't talk shit about heavy metal. I'd rather just listen to classic rock and NOT COMPLAIN.


HOLY *ISH! This is me...

AC/DC
Billy Joel
Carly Simon
Elton John
Bob Segar
Bad Company
Pat Benatar
The Doobie Brothers
Abba
Toto
Linda Ronstat
Barbara Striesand

And the list goes ON AND ON...
DJ DisGrace 1:46 AM - 15 April, 2013
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See, you are a die hard UNDERGROUND HipHop fanatic...That's why Cut Chemist means so much to you...

I'm not, and never pretended to be...

I was as mainstream as the next cat, as a matter of fact, MY HIP HOP was really driven by whatever the Hottest 12" WAS at the time....I wasn't the type of DJ to buy HipHop albums for LISTENING pleasure, (aside from realizing that they would probably become collector's items), but I picked them up JUST IN CASE someone asked for some obscure song (that I hadn't heard of), or for something that wasn't available in a 12 inch.

Fortunately, you grew up in a time where a lot of the "hit singles" were quality records. We all know how this has changed...

I've always listened to music, and collected music. I became a dj after. My library was a lot deeper than the hit singles. It's not that I was an "underground hip-hop fan", I was just a hip-hop fan and got my fingers into a lot of good stuff (i.e. Cut Chemist amongst others)
DJ Alkemy 1:46 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Erykah Badu
Anthony Hamilton
Maxwell
Dwele
DeAngelo
Musiq
Bilal
Common
Goapele
Lauryn Hill
India Arie
Digable Planets


Oh SH*T! SCHOOL IS IN SESSION!!!!


Really?. Anyone with one shred of musical knowledge knows the artists mentioned. Hardly impressive. In fact, it seems like your basic and obvious list that would show up if you typed neo soul artist into a Google search
DJ DisGrace 1:52 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I love classic rock , but I'm not a big fan of heavy metal. But, I don't talk shit about heavy metal. I'd rather just listen to classic rock and NOT COMPLAIN.


HOLY *ISH! This is me...

AC/DC
Billy Joel
Carly Simon
Elton John
Bob Segar
Bad Company
Pat Benatar
The Doobie Brothers
Abba
Toto
Linda Ronstat
Barbara Striesand

And the list goes ON AND ON...

See, and as to my post above... this is the mainstream "hot garbage" of classic rock, one could say. As a music enthusiast that went beyond "the hits" my classic rock picks:

AC/DC (I'll give you this one)
Led Zeppelin
Jimmy Hendrix
The Doors
Steve Miller Band
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Eric Clapton
Pink Floyd
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Black Sabbath
Rolling Stones
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:55 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Fair enough, but Cut Chemist was always more about production. He just happens to be a good dj that can cut. But even beyond his cutting skills, it was still more about the type of music he played. It was an evolution of hip-hop, kind of like the Ninja Tune stuff.

And do we even need to mention J5? I'd say they were the last of the real hip-hop 'crews' to actually get some mainstream love (What's Golden - 2002). But even by then they had already impacted the underground scene immensely. What hip-hop acts/crews have really emerged and impacted the mainstream since? None that I can think of.... just loose affiliations, really. Murder Inc? G Unit? Young Money? Please....


See, you're UP ON that stuff, I was never into "Underground" HipHop if you will....I have RESPECT for it, but I would fail an exam on it from the door. Again, HipHop died for me when Biggie died...

I was (and am) still collecting a CHECK, and trying to "Educate" the listeners I have when I get a chance, on what REAL HipHop WAS like when I do my "Throwback" sets...

I "prepare" for a "Current" party, or party that expects to hear Drake, Ross and Wayne, etc, by going to Hot 97, finding out what the top 20 are, going to Franchise Record Pool, and downloading them, and would play them for the first time that night....seriously...

No MIXING skills needed as MOST of today's intros are so damn FLAMBOYANT, there's nothing you can do with it ANYWAY...

Hey, if I WON'T play it, SOMEONE will....Might as well be me...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:03 AM - 15 April, 2013
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See, you are a die hard UNDERGROUND HipHop fanatic...That's why Cut Chemist means so much to you...

I'm not, and never pretended to be...

I was as mainstream as the next cat, as a matter of fact, MY HIP HOP was really driven by whatever the Hottest 12" WAS at the time....I wasn't the type of DJ to buy HipHop albums for LISTENING pleasure, (aside from realizing that they would probably become collector's items), but I picked them up JUST IN CASE someone asked for some obscure song (that I hadn't heard of), or for something that wasn't available in a 12 inch.

Fortunately, you grew up in a time where a lot of the "hit singles" were quality records. We all know how this has changed...

I've always listened to music, and collected music. I became a dj after. My library was a lot deeper than the hit singles. It's not that I was an "underground hip-hop fan", I was just a hip-hop fan and got my fingers into a lot of good stuff (i.e. Cut Chemist amongst others)


This is true, I grew up in the age of the 12 inch hit, and I'm glad I did...

But I also had an audience that demanded to HEAR those hits, so I had no time to invest in anything other than what THEY wanted, and my OWN hiphop...various crews, demo's etc...etc...we all did it.

But I did it so well, AND was a student of "Audio", that the college KEPT USING us WELL after the time that MOST DJ's would either have graduated, or moved on....

My PA sound was UNMATCHED, the crowd control was UNMATCHED, the MIXING was UNMATCHED....

And we had someone on the "Inside" to keep us getting the gigs....on some Soprano type *ish....

The ONLY way that a cat was able to "Come Up" was that the music changed sooooo drastically, that I couldn't stomach it anymore....

When I actually HAD to buy Soulja Boy on WAX, that's when I knew I had to change crowds...

Then along comes SERATO....and at the time MP3's were "Free"....so now I wasn't spending money on WAX that would be obsolete in 2 weeks....

I have NO PROBLEM spending no REAL money on mp3's that I'll play 2 or 3 times....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:15 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Really?. Anyone with one shred of musical knowledge knows the artists mentioned. Hardly impressive. In fact, it seems like your basic and obvious list that would show up if you typed neo soul artist into a Google search


I'm sure we all KNOW them, but it's good to see them in a comprehensive list to give leverage to the argument....

You're a die hard Underground Head too, so again, y'all are on two different sides of the HipHop coin....

Your "Heroes" aren't necessarily my heroes, but respect all around...

People who are into the same craft may not study the EXACT same elements...

For example, I'm from an era where SOME DJ's can look at a record label and know EXACTLY what song the DJ is gonna play next...based on BPM's, etc...

Or hell, look at a label, and make a good guess as to what it may be before even being played....

Like I said, I'm a student of "Audio", so I was VERY interested in getting the BEST BANG from my system while keeping a tight grip on the wallet...

I soon found out that, the BEST way to get a CLEAN sound from PASSIVE system is to send the CLEANEST signal to the rack, do very LITTLE EQ at the rack, ZERO on the mixer, and just have beastly AMPS to push the Bass, Mids, and Highs separately....

All EQ'uing is basically turning up or down the frequencies that you desire for the best sound, and once I mastered that, nobody could touch me...

I can also look at a Vintage Technics turntable and tell you the model number....

Those traits I listed above are held in high regard with the people I ROLL with, but cats come up in different climates....so it's all good.
DJ DisGrace 2:19 AM - 15 April, 2013
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All EQ'uing is basically turning down the frequencies that you desire for the best sound, and once I mastered that, nobody could touch me...

fixed

Never EQ "up"!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:23 AM - 15 April, 2013
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See, and as to my post above... this is the mainstream "hot garbage" of classic rock, one could say. As a music enthusiast that went beyond "the hits" my classic rock picks:

AC/DC (I'll give you this one)
Led Zeppelin
Jimmy Hendrix
The Doors
Steve Miller Band
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Eric Clapton
Pink Floyd
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Black Sabbath
Rolling Stones


Did you say HOT GARBAGE of Classic Rock?

You are smoking....that crizack...

You are an EXTREMIST...

There is nothing "Garbage" about the groups that I mentioned...

Led Zep - Eh
Jimmy Hendrix - Never listened to, but respect is given
The Doors - NO
Steve Miller Band - ok
Eric Clapton - Ok
Pink Floyd - The Wall - THAT'S IT.
Stevie Ray Vaughn - NO
Black Sabbath - NO

Again, that's your NICHE, but the groups I mentioned are just as talented, if not more, than the ones you mentioned....
DJ Alkemy 2:24 AM - 15 April, 2013
Underground or commercial, I couldn't care less. If it's good music I'm down with it. Lil Wayne is pure garbage to me. On a musical, intellectual and respect scale.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:24 AM - 15 April, 2013
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All EQ'uing is basically turning down the frequencies that you desire for the best sound, and once I mastered that, nobody could touch me...

fixed

Never EQ "up"!!!


Negative, I had a very slight incline when it came to the Mid/High End of the spectrum...

If anything, I'd take out Sub Lows that would cause rumble...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:26 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Underground or commercial, I couldn't care less. If it's good music I'm down with it. Lil Wayne is pure garbage to me. On a musical, intellectual and respect scale.


Agreed, but we STILL don't see eye to eye on Cut Chemist...
DJ DisGrace 2:28 AM - 15 April, 2013
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AC/DC
Billy Joel
Carly Simon
Elton John
Bob Segar
Bad Company
Pat Benatar
The Doobie Brothers
Abba
Toto
Linda Ronstat
Barbara Striesand

But Johnny, The only "classic rock" groups here are Bad Company, and The Doobie Brothers. The rest is pop.

Don't get me wrong, there is some talent there obviously. But it's not "classic rock". You can't possible call yourself of student of classic rock and not ever listend to Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, or Black Sabbath. They were some of the ones that started the whole damn thing!
DJ DisGrace 2:29 AM - 15 April, 2013
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All EQ'uing is basically turning down the frequencies that you desire for the best sound, and once I mastered that, nobody could touch me...

fixed

Never EQ "up"!!!


Negative, I had a very slight incline when it came to the Mid/High End of the spectrum...

If anything, I'd take out Sub Lows that would cause rumble...

Negative. Boosting frequencies creates harmonics, which lead to combing and wave cancellation.

The bass thing is basic EQ knowledge.
DJ Alkemy 2:31 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Underground or commercial, I couldn't care less. If it's good music I'm down with it. Lil Wayne is pure garbage to me. On a musical, intellectual and respect scale.


Agreed, but we STILL don't see eye to eye on Cut Chemist...


No problem. If it ain't your bag then cool. But to blindly diss him in a thread then use lil wayne and vanilla ice as a yardstick for Your idea of musical talent is beyond hilarious.
DJ DisGrace 2:32 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Again, that's your NICHE

But YOUR NICHE was whatever they played on the radio. Musicians were more talented back then, but the radio has always been about pleasing the lowest common denominator. You have go outside of that to find the "real" classic rock.
DJ DisGrace 2:38 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Again, that's your NICHE

But YOUR NICHE was whatever they played on the radio. Musicians were more talented back then, but the radio has always been about pleasing the lowest common denominator. You have go outside of that to find the "real" classic rock.

And this applies directly to our hip-hop discussion....

A person that only has the "radio hits" can't possibly comment on some of the truer forms of certain genres, regardless of what era they may have grown up in.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:39 AM - 15 April, 2013
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AC/DC
Billy Joel
Carly Simon
Elton John
Bob Segar
Bad Company
Pat Benatar
The Doobie Brothers
Abba
Toto
Linda Ronstat
Barbara Striesand

But Johnny, The only "classic rock" groups here are Bad Company, and The Doobie Brothers. The rest is pop.

Don't get me wrong, there is some talent there obviously. But it's not "classic rock". You can't possible call yourself of student of classic rock and not ever listend to Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, or Black Sabbath. They were some of the ones that started the whole damn thing!


You are trying to Classify what I (and a lot of people) call Classic Rock, into a Pop category, but again what EACH person may try to classify as a certain "Genre" may not be the same as somebody else trying to classify the same "Genre".

I didn't say I was a STUDENT of Classic Rock, I said I LOVE IT...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:44 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Negative. Boosting frequencies creates harmonics, which lead to combing and wave cancellation.

The bass thing is basic EQ knowledge.


I knew that for MY SYSTEM at the time, I did what I had to do, and was the ONLY kid on my block who knew enough to use a separate PRE-AMP (Soundcraftsman) with a built-in EQ to get my stuff sounding dope.

Now let me tell you how simple it was...

There was the Bass W-Bins with RCF's loaded, a MID, (12" EV), and a Peavy Wide dispersion horn with a PA 22XT Driver.

It could get no simpler...

Again, I said a SLIGHT roll up on the highs...

You have to be there....trust.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:45 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Underground or commercial, I couldn't care less. If it's good music I'm down with it. Lil Wayne is pure garbage to me. On a musical, intellectual and respect scale.


Agreed, but we STILL don't see eye to eye on Cut Chemist...


No problem. If it ain't your bag then cool. But to blindly diss him in a thread then use lil wayne and vanilla ice as a yardstick for Your idea of musical talent is beyond hilarious.


Ha ha..

But check this...

How many copies of Change The Beat do you have?

Do you know who DST is?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:47 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Again, that's your NICHE

But YOUR NICHE was whatever they played on the radio. Musicians were more talented back then, but the radio has always been about pleasing the lowest common denominator. You have go outside of that to find the "real" classic rock.


Again, that's YOUR OPINION...

They played a LOT of Quality music "On The Radio", and again, your "Real" Classic Rock has a much more limited audience than mine....

Same for you..

How many copies of Change The Beat do you have?

Who was DST?
DJ DisGrace 2:50 AM - 15 April, 2013
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You are trying to Classify what I (and a lot of people) call Classic Rock, into a Pop category, but again what EACH person may try to classify as a certain "Genre" may not be the same as somebody else trying to classify the same "Genre".

I don't know man.... I can let you slide on a couple of those, but Abba? Barbara Streisand? That is most definitely NOT Classic Rock. Just because the radio station says it's playing classic rock, doesn't make it so. Again, the radio is and always has been the lowest common denominator.
DJ Alkemy 2:54 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Ha ha..

But check this...

How many copies of Change The Beat do you have?

Do you know who DST is?


Again. This is basic. Real basic knowledge to me.
DJ DisGrace 2:56 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Again, that's your NICHE

But YOUR NICHE was whatever they played on the radio. Musicians were more talented back then, but the radio has always been about pleasing the lowest common denominator. You have go outside of that to find the "real" classic rock.


Again, that's YOUR OPINION...

They played a LOT of Quality music "On The Radio", and again, your "Real" Classic Rock has a much more limited audience than mine....

Same for you..

How many copies of Change The Beat do you have?

Who was DST?

And how does this qualify or not qualify my country ass to school you on classic rock? I'll listen to you when it comes to 80's hip-hop and disco, but classic rock? I got that covered. You grew up hip-hop, I grew up on classic rock.

I wasn't even in kindergarten when Change the Beat came out. So no, I don't have any copies...

How many Classic Rock albums do you have? If you've only ever listened to radio releases, then you are definitely missing out on the quality classic rock. No diss, just good advice to broaden your horizons with this genre.
DJ DisGrace 3:00 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Who was DST?

And that's just insulting!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:03 AM - 15 April, 2013
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You are trying to Classify what I (and a lot of people) call Classic Rock, into a Pop category, but again what EACH person may try to classify as a certain "Genre" may not be the same as somebody else trying to classify the same "Genre".


I don't know man.... I can let you slide on a couple of those, but Abba? Barbara Streisand? That is most definitely NOT Classic Rock. Just because the radio station says it's playing classic rock, doesn't make it so. Again, the radio is and always has been the lowest common denominator.


I could have added Fleetwood Mac, INXS, Deep Purple, and ELO, but I thought you got my drift....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:23 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Who was DST?


And how does this qualify or not qualify my country ass to school you on classic rock? I'll listen to you when it comes to 80's hip-hop and disco, but classic rock? I got that covered. You grew up hip-hop, I grew up on classic rock.


The REASON I ask if you know about DST is because, if you SAY you're a Student of HipHop (DJ'ing), then you'd know that DST was OUR Cut Chemist, but stemming from 1983...

Nobody was REALLY doing anything more ground breaking than him until Jazzy Jeff and DJ Scratch came out...Then it was a runaway train.

You could almost say it's Culture/Race based, but it is what it is...

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I wasn't even in kindergarten when Change the Beat came out. So no, I don't have any copies...


So here's the problem.

Change the Beat came out in 1982, and you weren't even in Kindergarten.

The "Classic Rock" was listening to, I HAD BEEN LISTENING TO SINCE THE 70's....so we must be talking about 2 DIFFERENT Genres of "Classic" Rock...

My "Classic Rock" originated from AM stations....not FM.

We weren't even listening to the same music...

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How many Classic Rock albums do you have? If you've only ever listened to radio releases, then you are definitely missing out on the quality classic rock. No diss, just good advice to broaden your horizons with this genre.


I've got a few.... :-) -> www.djjohnnym.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:24 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Who was DST?


And that's just insulting!


No, who was he to YOU?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:26 AM - 15 April, 2013
And the reason I bring up Change The Beat is because someone COULD ARGUE that if a REAL HIPHOP DJ doesn't have a copy of the vinyl, they weren't REALLY a HipHop DJ.

The same argument was said about NOT having the ENTIRE Ultimate Break Beat collection on Vinyl...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:35 AM - 15 April, 2013
WAIT A MINUTE!

DJ ALKEMY! Didn't we have this SAME CONVERSATION REGARDING "Change The Beat" and your knowledge level (or non) of it? Which then turned into an almost battle?

Or was that someone else?
DJ Alkemy 3:35 AM - 15 April, 2013
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And the reason I bring up Change The Beat is because someone COULD ARGUE that if a REAL HIPHOP DJ doesn't have a copy of the vinyl, they weren't REALLY a HipHop DJ.

The same argument was said about NOT having the ENTIRE Ultimate Break Beat collection on Vinyl...


Thats a matter of age. It would be daft to expect a DJ younger than 25 to have that track, let alone on wax. And someone questioning my Hip Hop credentials when they don't know anything after the death of BIG ain't happening.
DJ Alkemy 3:37 AM - 15 April, 2013
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WAIT A MINUTE!

DJ ALKEMY! Didn't we have this SAME CONVERSATION REGARDING "Change The Beat" and your knowledge level (or non) of it? Which then turned into an almost battle?

Or was that someone else?


Yep. That was me alright. And we can do the whole thing again. No one can question my Hip Hop credentials.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:43 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Thats a matter of age. It would be daft to expect a DJ younger than 25 to have that track, let alone on wax.


Really? Would you say the same thing about other HipHop classics, like Peter Piper, or Rock the Bells?

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And someone questioning my Hip Hop credentials when they don't know anything after the death of BIG ain't happening.


It's not that I don't KNOW anything after B.I.G., but moreso that there was NOTHING WORTH KEEPING UP WITH after him.

You don't seem to understand that I was around DURING the Birth of Hiphop, and saw it grow, get exploited, put on the track, run into the ground, and eventually killed...

From someone who saw first hand how hard cats worked, on say BELT DRIVE TURNTABLES, to hear cats complain today about not having Automatic Harmonic Pitch Sync Reloop puts the nail in the coffin.

The level of 'HipHop" that you are "dedicated" to is for a Niche group, and there's nothing wrong with that, but a TRUE STUDENT goes to the beginning....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:45 AM - 15 April, 2013
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WAIT A MINUTE!

DJ ALKEMY! Didn't we have this SAME CONVERSATION REGARDING "Change The Beat" and your knowledge level (or non) of it? Which then turned into an almost battle?

Or was that someone else?


Yep. That was me alright. And we can do the whole thing again. No one can question my Hip Hop credentials.


The whole thing again? Didn't you have a broken tone arm or something, or was gonna battle me with 1 turntable?

C'mon man....

I've already left a trail of bodies here in 2013....A-Train ain't even cold yet, and you know The_Black_One is still twitchin...
DJ Alkemy 3:47 AM - 15 April, 2013
I know my history. You say Hip Hop is dead?. Well, you see, thats where you are totally wrong and out of touch. It aint a niche at all. Its called digging beneath the surface. Hip hop 101.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:49 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I know my history. You say Hip Hop is dead?. Well, you see, thats where you are totally wrong and out of touch. It aint a niche at all. Its called digging beneath the surface. Hip hop 101.


It's not dead TO YOU....

For someone who saw it's BIRTH, and it at IT'S BEST....

It's dead man...
DJ Alkemy 3:50 AM - 15 April, 2013
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WAIT A MINUTE!

DJ ALKEMY! Didn't we have this SAME CONVERSATION REGARDING "Change The Beat" and your knowledge level (or non) of it? Which then turned into an almost battle?

Or was that someone else?


Yep. That was me alright. And we can do the whole thing again. No one can question my Hip Hop credentials.


The whole thing again? Didn't you have a broken tone arm or something, or was gonna battle me with 1 turntable?

C'mon man....

I've already left a trail of bodies here in 2013....A-Train ain't even cold yet, and you know The_Black_One is still twitchin...


Right. My TTs are now fixed, set up and Ill battle you in a heartbeat. If thats what you want then we will make a different thread and let this one get back on track.
DJ Alkemy 3:53 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I know my history. You say Hip Hop is dead?. Well, you see, thats where you are totally wrong and out of touch. It aint a niche at all. Its called digging beneath the surface. Hip hop 101.


It's not dead TO YOU....

For someone who saw it's BIRTH, and it at IT'S BEST....

It's dead man...


Haha. When did you become the spokesman for a whole culture. Please. I buy quality hip-hop on the regular. Just cause you no longer keep up to date it don't mean there ain't great hip-hop being made.
DJ DisGrace 3:56 AM - 15 April, 2013
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How many Classic Rock albums do you have? If you've only ever listened to radio releases, then you are definitely missing out on the quality classic rock. No diss, just good advice to broaden your horizons with this genre.


I've got a few.... :-) -> www.djjohnnym.com

Listen, I'm not gonna take "classic rock" advice from a guy that thinks Abba is classic rock, and someone who writes off 4 of the most prolific 'classic rock' guitar players in history.

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Led Zep - Eh
Jimmy Hendrix - Never listened to, but respect is given
Eric Clapton - Ok
Pink Floyd - The Wall - THAT'S IT.
Stevie Ray Vaughn - NO
DJ Alkemy 3:58 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Led Zep - Eh
Jimmy Hendrix - Never listened to, but respect is given
Eric Clapton - Ok
Pink Floyd - The Wall - THAT'S IT.
Stevie Ray Vaughn - NO


Wow
DJ DisGrace 3:59 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Led Zep - Eh
Jimmy Hendrix - Never listened to, but respect is given
Eric Clapton - Ok
Pink Floyd - The Wall - THAT'S IT.
Stevie Ray Vaughn - NO


Wow

I didn't mean to keep Pink Floyd in this list of guitar heros, but if you think "The Wall" is all there is... smdh
Mike_P 4:03 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Led Zep - Eh
Jimmy Hendrix - Never listened to, but respect is given
Eric Clapton - Ok
Pink Floyd - The Wall - THAT'S IT.
Stevie Ray Vaughn - NO


Wow

I didn't mean to keep Pink Floyd in this list of guitar heros, but if you think "The Wall" is all there is... smdh

Ok ok. I know I said I would keep quiet. But you don't think David Gilmour is one of the most prolific guitar heroes of all time??? C'mon man. What he did was AMAZING and pure genius. No one can or has played like he does.
DJ DisGrace 4:05 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Jimmy Hendrix - Never listened to, but respect is given
Eric Clapton - Ok
Pink Floyd - The Wall - THAT'S IT.
Stevie Ray Vaughn - NO


Wow

I didn't mean to keep Pink Floyd in this list of guitar heros, but if you think "The Wall" is all there is... smdh

Ok ok. I know I said I would keep quiet. But you don't think David Gilmour is one of the most prolific guitar heroes of all time??? C'mon man. What he did was AMAZING and pure genius. No one can or has played like he does.

LOL fair enough. I had 4 as a number, so I went with top 4 "well known" guitarists that apparently Johnny doesn't even know. Didn't want to go in too far over his head.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:05 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Right. My TTs are now fixed, set up and Ill battle you in a heartbeat. If thats what you want then we will make a different thread and let this one get back on track.


Well, unfortunately, battling you would do nothing for the notches on my belt...

You would first need to take out Sixxx, Techniq, A-Train, etc..etc...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:07 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Haha. When did you become the spokesman for a whole culture. Please. I buy quality hip-hop on the regular. Just cause you no longer keep up to date it don't mean there ain't great hip-hop being made.


Ok....
DJ Alkemy 4:08 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Right. My TTs are now fixed, set up and Ill battle you in a heartbeat. If thats what you want then we will make a different thread and let this one get back on track.


Well, unfortunately, battling you would do nothing for the notches on my belt...

You would first need to take out Sixxx, Techniq, A-Train, etc..etc...


Zzz. Same as last time then. A whole load of hot air.
DJ DisGrace 4:10 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Haha. When did you become the spokesman for a whole culture. Please. I buy quality hip-hop on the regular. Just cause you no longer keep up to date it don't mean there ain't great hip-hop being made.

We've discovered in this thread that Johnny's musical knowledge stops at "radio hits" and 12" singles. Fortunately for him he grew up in a time when music was good. Unfortunately, in his mind the only hip-hop out there now is what's on Hot97.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:10 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Zzz. Same as last time then. A whole load of hot air.


Dude, YOU were the ONE ARMED TURNTABLE Bandit the LAST time....

lol...

I'm glad you finally got your TT fixed....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:11 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I didn't mean to keep Pink Floyd in this list of guitar heros, but if you think "The Wall" is all there is... smdh


I didn't say that's ALL they had, I'm saying that's ALL I was interested in...
Mike_P 4:11 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Led Zep - Eh
Jimmy Hendrix - Never listened to, but respect is given
Eric Clapton - Ok
Pink Floyd - The Wall - THAT'S IT.
Stevie Ray Vaughn - NO


Wow

I didn't mean to keep Pink Floyd in this list of guitar heros, but if you think "The Wall" is all there is... smdh

Ok ok. I know I said I would keep quiet. But you don't think David Gilmour is one of the most prolific guitar heroes of all time??? C'mon man. What he did was AMAZING and pure genius. No one can or has played like he does.

LOL fair enough. I had 4 as a number, so I went with top 4 "well known" guitarists that apparently Johnny doesn't even know. Didn't want to go in too far over his head.

:)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:12 AM - 15 April, 2013
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LOL fair enough. I had 4 as a number, so I went with top 4 "well known" guitarists that apparently Johnny doesn't even know. Didn't want to go in too far over his head.


See, now you tryin' to flex...

DUDE, I KNOW ALL OF THEM...

lmao @ me listening to "Classic Rock" before you were even BORN....

C'mon son... stop it...
DJ Alkemy 4:12 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Zzz. Same as last time then. A whole load of hot air.


Dude, YOU were the ONE ARMED TURNTABLE Bandit the LAST time....

lol...

I'm glad you finally got your TT fixed....


I would have battled you with one. No problem.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:14 AM - 15 April, 2013
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We've discovered in this thread that Johnny's musical knowledge stops at "radio hits" and 12" singles.


And that you can't explain who DST is, in your OWN words....

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Fortunately for him he grew up in a time when music was good.


And I'm glad I have that knowledge....

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Unfortunately, in his mind the only hip-hop out there now is what's on Hot97.


Who said that?

I am TOTALLY aware of Underground HipHop, but I just don't follow it...

It's a niche genre...accept it.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:15 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I would have battled you with one. No problem.


But YOU were the one who kept stalling.....

Again, you have some work to do, so take a stab at those guys, and them come see me when you have a copy of Change The Beat...
DJ DisGrace 4:16 AM - 15 April, 2013
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LOL fair enough. I had 4 as a number, so I went with top 4 "well known" guitarists that apparently Johnny doesn't even know. Didn't want to go in too far over his head.


See, now you tryin' to flex...

DUDE, I KNOW ALL OF THEM...

lmao @ me listening to "Classic Rock" before you were even BORN....

C'mon son... stop it...

But I listend to it for twice as long as you. Doesn't matter when I started listening. I went back and listened to all of it, not just the radio hits.

There is a difference between 'knowing' them and actually listening to them.
DJ DisGrace 4:18 AM - 15 April, 2013
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We've discovered in this thread that Johnny's musical knowledge stops at "radio hits" and 12" singles.


And that you can't explain who DST is, in your OWN words....

When did I ever say this? I said I was offended that you would assume I don't know who he is. I'm a music collector/lover, remember? That means when I got into hip-hop I went all the way back. I listened to all of it, not just radio hits.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:18 AM - 15 April, 2013
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But I listend to it for twice as long as you. Doesn't matter when I started listening. I went back and listened to all of it, not just the radio hits.

There is a difference between 'knowing' them and actually listening to them.


****sigh***

When you GROW UP LISTENING TO THEM, it STAYS with you...

I didn't have to "Go Back" and learn them, I lived it....

****sigh****
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:18 AM - 15 April, 2013
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We've discovered in this thread that Johnny's musical knowledge stops at "radio hits" and 12" singles.




And that you can't explain who DST is, in your OWN words....


When did I ever say this? I said I was offended that you would assume I don't know who he is. I'm a music collector/lover, remember? That means when I got into hip-hop I went all the way back. I listened to all of it, not just radio hits.


Ok, so WHO is DST to YOU? Again....
DJ Alkemy 4:20 AM - 15 April, 2013
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I would have battled you with one. No problem.


But YOU were the one who kept stalling.....

Again, you have some work to do, so take a stab at those guys, and them come see me when you have a copy of Change The Beat...


I never stalled. You just said the same delusional shit like "i beat sixx, i beat..." without ever uploading anything. Then I posted mine and your vids and more people preferred mine over yours but you still wouldn't have it.

Ill battle you in a breath. Bring it.
monchi 4:22 AM - 15 April, 2013
^^^^BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOMmmmmmmm!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:23 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Then I posted mine and your vids and more people preferred mine over yours but you still wouldn't have it.


You made a vid? Stop lyin...

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No.
DJ DisGrace 4:25 AM - 15 April, 2013
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We've discovered in this thread that Johnny's musical knowledge stops at "radio hits" and 12" singles.




And that you can't explain who DST is, in your OWN words....


When did I ever say this? I said I was offended that you would assume I don't know who he is. I'm a music collector/lover, remember? That means when I got into hip-hop I went all the way back. I listened to all of it, not just radio hits.


Ok, so WHO is DST to YOU? Again....

He's a guy that influenced my dj role models. So as a student of music and hip-hop, I learned about who he is and what he did.

Growing up in Jersey during the 80s isn't a prerequisite for being a hip-hop dj.
Learning to dj when copies of Change The Beat were $0.99 isn't either.
DJ Alkemy 4:26 AM - 15 April, 2013
We uploaded old videos.

Im up for uploading new ones.
DJ Reflex 4:26 AM - 15 April, 2013
Sooo... How about VH1 Master Of The Mix?
DJ DisGrace 4:28 AM - 15 April, 2013
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haha, this week's episode: mixing "classic rock"

*Johnny runs and gets his Abba records
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:28 AM - 15 April, 2013
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He's a guy that influenced my dj role models. So as a student of music and hip-hop, I learned about who he is and what he did.


Who IS he and what did he do?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:28 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Sooo... How about VH1 Master Of The Mix?


haha, this week's episode: mixing "classic rock"

*Johnny runs and gets his Abba records


And I bet that jawn turns the party out too....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:29 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Im up for uploading new ones.


No, use my old ones....

Beat them first.
DJ Alkemy 4:29 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Sooo... How about VH1 Master Of The Mix?


haha, this week's episode: mixing "classic rock"

*Johnny runs and gets his Abba records


And I bet that jawn turns the party out too....


Yeah. In the local geriatric ward
DJ Alkemy 4:31 AM - 15 April, 2013
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We uploaded old videos.

Im up for uploading new ones.


No, use my old ones....

Beat them first.


They suck. Bring something else to the table. Them prehistoric vids bore the shit out of me.
DJ DisGrace 4:31 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Sooo... How about VH1 Master Of The Mix?


haha, this week's episode: mixing "classic rock"

*Johnny runs and gets his Abba records


And I bet that jawn turns the party out too....

Seriously, that's like being asked to mix hip-hop records and grabbing doubles of Darude

Dare I inform you that most people would classify Abba as disco?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:31 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Sooo... How about VH1 Master Of The Mix?


haha, this week's episode: mixing "classic rock"

*Johnny runs and gets his Abba records


And I bet that jawn turns the party out too....


Yeah. In the local geriatric ward

Ok....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:32 AM - 15 April, 2013
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They suck. Bring something else to the table. Them prehistoric vids bore the shit out of me.


It's not you who I have to impress...
DJ Michael Basic 4:34 AM - 15 April, 2013
This thread got real boring real fast.
DJ Alkemy 4:36 AM - 15 April, 2013
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This thread got real boring real fast.


Yeah. Didn't wanna turn this into another boring pissing match. He talks more than anything else. Back on track.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:40 AM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah. Didn't wanna turn this into another boring pissing match. He whoops ass more than anything else. Back on track.


This is true...
DJ DisGrace 4:41 AM - 15 April, 2013
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This thread got real boring real fast.


Yeah. Didn't wanna turn this into another boring pissing match. He talks more than anything else. Back on track.

Worst part is Torch started all this and now he disappeared...

Anyway, it appears that Smirnoff hired Cut Chemist as a spokesman, and then proceeded to allow him to knock the current state of hip hop while they simultaneously try to promote a dj "contest" centered primarily on hip-hop dj'ing abilities.
DJ DisGrace 4:44 AM - 15 April, 2013
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while they simultaneously try to promote a dj "contest" centered primarily on hip-hop dj'ing abilities.

Yet for some reason, owning copies of Change The Beat and submitting an essay about Grandmaster DXT wasn't part of the screening process....










haha sorry.... too good to pass up
djaction 4:52 AM - 15 April, 2013
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No offense Johnny, but you haven't heard of anyone that has emerged on the scene post-1989.


None taken, and to tell you the TRUTH, was there REALLY WASN'T anybody who emerged on the scene, who did ANYTHING groundbreaking in the realm of DJ'ing, that I can think of, that would really impress me.

You have to understand, I lived the next town over from DJ Cheese who forever changed the role that the DMC played in battles.

Our set of standards was REALLY high, so seeing a DJ AM, or Cut Chemist wasn't really something mindblowing to me so many years later.

As a matter of fact, after DJ SPLYCE -> Watchwww.youtube.com did his thing the in the DMC, (Craze came up after him), they all started to sound the same...

BTW, nobody (as in today's so called DMC CHAMPS) is F*ckin' with that Billie Jean juggle he did...in that routine...

The only thing that has come out since then are DVS/Controller perfect pitch bend DJ's...

I'm not impressed...


lol @ QBERT not being impressive... da fuq?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:55 AM - 15 April, 2013
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lol @ QBERT not being impressive... da fuq?


I said they ALL sounded the same....

It's always scratch the "Ahhhh" over a beat....

Q-Bert only relatively recently stood apart from the rest with his drumming....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:56 AM - 15 April, 2013
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while they simultaneously try to promote a dj "contest" centered primarily on hip-hop dj'ing abilities.


Yet for some reason, owning copies of Change The Beat and submitting an essay about Grandmaster DXT wasn't part of the screening process....


And again, it shows what I've been saying all along...

YOUR Heroes aren't everybody ELSES heroes...
DJ DisGrace 4:59 AM - 15 April, 2013
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while they simultaneously try to promote a dj "contest" centered primarily on hip-hop dj'ing abilities.


Yet for some reason, owning copies of Change The Beat and submitting an essay about Grandmaster DXT wasn't part of the screening process....


And again, it shows what I've been saying all along...

YOUR Heroes aren't everybody ELSES heroes...

And you are implying that if my heroes aren't the same as your heroes, then I've got it wrong.
DJ Reflex 4:59 AM - 15 April, 2013
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:48 AM - 15 April, 2013
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***sigh***

Stop trying to put words into my mouth...

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I mean, he may be an icon to some of YOU, but he never was anything relevant to anything in MY hiphop upbringing...


and was STILL trying to be DIPLOMATIC and non Threatening when I ALSO said -

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Again, you two are on separate sides of the HipHop coin - Cut Chemist doesn't impress ME, nor does Lil Wayne, but I can see both of your sides....

Y'all can live in peace...


And from THERE y'all keep thinkin' that the Hip Hop that you're experiencing NOW is something vibrant and captivating, when I'm telling you.... It's already been done, it's had it's MUCH better days, and the "Real" HipHop you're referring to is for a niche crowd.

Panties keep getting bunched up in this post...

And you are implying that if my heroes aren't the same as your heroes, then I've got it wrong.


I did not. I said YOUR Heroes are
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:49 AM - 15 April, 2013
***sigh***

Stop trying to put words into my mouth...

I specifically said -


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I mean, he may be an icon to some of YOU, but he never was anything relevant to anything in MY hiphop upbringing...


and was STILL trying to be DIPLOMATIC and non Threatening when I ALSO said -


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Again, you two are on separate sides of the HipHop coin - Cut Chemist doesn't impress ME, nor does Lil Wayne, but I can see both of your sides....

Y'all can live in peace...


And from THERE y'all keep thinkin' that the Hip Hop that you're experiencing NOW is something vibrant and captivating, when I'm telling you.... It's already been done, it's had it's MUCH better days, and the "Real" HipHop you're referring to is for a niche crowd.

Panties keep getting bunched up in this post...
Logisticalstyles 12:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Growing up in Jersey during the 80s isn't a prerequisite for being a hip-hop dj.
Learning to dj when copies of Change The Beat were $0.99 isn't either.


Word. Up.
DJ DisGrace 12:49 PM - 15 April, 2013
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And you are implying that if my heroes aren't the same as your heroes, then I've got it wrong.

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***sigh***

Stop trying to put words into my mouth...

I specifically said -

That's why I used the word "implied", Johnny.

No matter what anyone says, you keep coming back to the tired old measuring stick of "Who was DST?" and "How many copies of Change The Beat do you have?"

This implies that if DST wasn't my dj icon, I did it wrong.

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And from THERE y'all keep thinkin' that the Hip Hop that you're experiencing NOW is something vibrant and captivating, when I'm telling you.... It's already been done, it's had it's MUCH better days, and the "Real" HipHop you're referring to is for a niche crowd.

That's Alkemy. I agree hip-hop is in a sad state right now. None of the "real" hip-hop being released (niche or not) has caught my ear either.
DJ Alkemy 1:08 PM - 15 April, 2013
It's fine if people ain't digging Hip-hop these days but to tell me it's dead or in a sorry state when I buy real quality releases on the regular is silly. It's been said a million times before but don't look to the top 40 for quality hip-hop in this day and age. Johnny already admittedd to looking at the single releases for his music so he is a lost cause but for anyone under the age of 50 who ain't stuck in their ways should really try and dig beneath the surface. I would be interested to know what hip-hop you have checked these last two years to say it's in a sorry state or worse still, dead.
djaction 1:54 PM - 15 April, 2013
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lol @ QBERT not being impressive... da fuq?


I said they ALL sounded the same....

It's always scratch the "Ahhhh" over a beat....

Q-Bert only relatively recently stood apart from the rest with his drumming....


lol. we can't take you seriously with comments like that.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:59 PM - 15 April, 2013
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No matter what anyone says, you keep coming back to the tired old measuring stick of "Who was DST?" and "How many copies of Change The Beat do you have?"

This implies that if DST wasn't my dj icon, I did it wrong.[/quote}

No, it merely gives YOU what you gave ME, when you used a measuring stick of whether or not I knew who Double D was, or I should hand in my HipHop card.

YOUR Heroes aren't necessarily MINE...when I consider what they "DID" a repeat of what's already been done for years, but just now exposed to you.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:00 PM - 15 April, 2013
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No matter what anyone says, you keep coming back to the tired old measuring stick of "Who was DST?" and "How many copies of Change The Beat do you have?"

This implies that if DST wasn't my dj icon, I did it wrong.


No, it merely gives YOU what you gave ME, when you used a measuring stick of whether or not I knew who Double D was, or I should hand in my HipHop card.

YOUR Heroes aren't necessarily MINE...when I consider what they "DID" a repeat of what's already been done for years, but just now exposed to you.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:04 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Q-Bert only relatively recently stood apart from the rest with his drumming....


lol. we can't take you seriously with comments like that.

Why? AGAIN, I've been listening to DMC DJ's and Battles since THE BEGINNING...

Q-Bert is doing what DJ Cheese did in 1986, but on Steriods and using skippless records.

I'm not saying he didn't take it to THE NEXT LEVEL, but that whole make a beat with one record thing is a concept that's BEEN around since the beginning.

Not impressed.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's fine if people ain't digging Hip-hop these days but to tell me it's dead or in a sorry state when I buy real quality releases on the regular is silly. It's been said a million times before but don't look to the top 40 for quality hip-hop in this day and age. Johnny already admittedd to looking at the single releases for his music so he is a lost cause but for anyone under the age of 50 who ain't stuck in their ways should really try and dig beneath the surface. I would be interested to know what hip-hop you have checked these last two years to say it's in a sorry state or worse still, dead.


I'll do you one better.

To DATE who can you say can hang with KRS-One in his prime?
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:06 PM - 15 April, 2013
The old mans finally lost it, hell be in the toy isle of his local walgreens eatn a bowl of fiber one in his undys by the end ifvthe week
DJ Alkemy 2:13 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's fine if people ain't digging Hip-hop these days but to tell me it's dead or in a sorry state when I buy real quality releases on the regular is silly. It's been said a million times before but don't look to the top 40 for quality hip-hop in this day and age. Johnny already admittedd to looking at the single releases for his music so he is a lost cause but for anyone under the age of 50 who ain't stuck in their ways should really try and dig beneath the surface. I would be interested to know what hip-hop you have checked these last two years to say it's in a sorry state or worse still, dead.


I'll do you one better.

To DATE who can you say can hang with KRS-One in his prime?


Im a massive Krs fan. 2nd G.O.A.T next to Rakim in my eyes. Its gonna hard to compare him against MCs out today, the styles are so different. Johnny, it would be like knocking my head against the wall talking to you about any recent Hip-hop, especially since you already said you check Hot 97 for it.
Funkytownstopsix 2:17 PM - 15 April, 2013
I took the time to read all of this tread, I have learned a few things.

1. I have no twitter followers which means I suck as A DJ. SMH
2 If you are just a local dj that your opinion does not matter or is not relevant. :{ WTH
3. I learned a little history on DJ's that I heard of but didn't know much about..
4. People consider hip-hop to be strictly stripper music... WTF
5. That people don't understand that hip-hip for most started when they first started listening to it.


For me a Texas Boy Hip hop Started when I heard Rappers Delight, The Double Dutch Bus, and Rapping Duke. It really blew up for me when RUN DMC hit the stage, Kirtus Blow, LL Cool J, Whodini , EPMD, ERIC B & RAKIM, Salt and Pepper UTFO, MC SHAN, Marly Marl, ect ect they kept hip-hop moving at a high pace. It took time back in the day for hits to migrate all the way down to Texas so I missed some good stuff. I would love to see the Dj's on Masters of the Mix pay Homage to the old hip greats..
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:33 PM - 15 April, 2013
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4. People consider hip-hop to be strictly stripper music... WTF..



I think theres some misunderstanding here because in a way theres truth to it, not hiphop in general but ive seen/read alot of interviews with southern rappers, especially texas, atl, and memphis, where they speciffically said they made music for the strip clubs because that was their main outlet and if the striplers liked it then it would translate into regular clubs, especially since it was the same dj.

Alot if the southern rap movmenr started off in the strip clubs
DJ DisGrace 2:49 PM - 15 April, 2013
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No, it merely gives YOU what you gave ME, when you used a measuring stick of whether or not I knew who Double D was, or I should hand in my HipHop card.

You are confusing me for someone else... again.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:44 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Im a massive Krs fan. 2nd G.O.A.T next to Rakim in my eyes. Its gonna hard to compare him against MCs out today, the styles are so different. Johnny, it would be like knocking my head against the wall talking to you about any recent Hip-hop, especially since you already said you check Hot 97 for it.


You are I are on the SAME PAGE as far as the Greats are concerned.

Nobody said I check HOT 97 for GOOD HipHop. I said I check for it to CASH A CHECK.

But this is EXACTLY what I mean...

You're trying to tell me that NOBODY since KRS-One has blessed HIPHOP in such a way to even compete with him.
KRS-One hit it big in the 80's, and my POINT is that NOBODY in HipHop has risen to his level of lyrical dexterity....

Same with Rakim, Kane, and IMO LL Cool J's (Early stuff)...

This is why I say HipHop is DEAD, because if you can't give me an artist who's come out since these guys, except for Biggie and Eminem, who can lay the smack down, then the game is over.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:46 PM - 15 April, 2013
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No, it merely gives YOU what you gave ME, when you used a measuring stick of whether or not I knew who Double D was, or I should hand in my HipHop card.

You are confusing me for someone else... again.


Oh, that's right it was the other guy...but all of you sound alike anyways....lmao.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:49 PM - 15 April, 2013
Hell KANE is about to release an album (even though I don't condone classic greats making "new" stuff, and he STILL sounds better than ANYONE I've heard as of recent.

I'm mad that his beats/production seems sketchy, and I could swear I heard Ceelo sanging or sumphin, but never the less, he commands the mic like these new jacks don't even exist.
Mike_P 4:04 PM - 15 April, 2013
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No, it merely gives YOU what you gave ME, when you used a measuring stick of whether or not I knew who Double D was, or I should hand in my HipHop card.

You are confusing me for someone else... again.

That was me you senile old fart! And I'm not going to contribute to this clusterfuck any longer. The original offender of making stupidass comments is gone. So if you want to carry on this conversation start a new thread.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:08 PM - 15 April, 2013
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So if you want to carry on this conversation start a new thread.


No, you guys don't mean that much to me. :-)
DJ Alkemy 5:00 PM - 15 April, 2013
But every music genre, sport, movie industry has its greats that will live forever. Rock ain't had a guitarist to touch Jimi in my eyes, don't mean that guitar playing is dead. Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time in a lot of peoples eyes (not mine but that's another thread) but that don't mean there were not great heavyweight's to come after him.

There are a lot of emcees that could step to Krs, LL, Eminem and Biggie on a lyrical level. You wouldn't have heard ninety percent of them though.
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Im a massive Krs fan. 2nd G.O.A.T next to Rakim in my eyes. Its gonna hard to compare him against MCs out today, the styles are so different. Johnny, it would be like knocking my head against the wall talking to you about any recent Hip-hop, especially since you already said you check Hot 97 for it.


You are I are on the SAME PAGE as far as the Greats are concerned.

Nobody said I check HOT 97 for GOOD HipHop. I said I check for it to CASH A CHECK.

But this is EXACTLY what I mean...

You're trying to tell me that NOBODY since KRS-One has blessed HIPHOP in such a way to even compete with him.
KRS-One hit it big in the 80's, and my POINT is that NOBODY in HipHop has risen to his level of lyrical dexterity....

Same with Rakim, Kane, and IMO LL Cool J's (Early stuff)...

This is why I say HipHop is DEAD, because if you can't give me an artist who's come out since these guys, except for Biggie and Eminem, who can lay the smack down, then the game is over.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:23 PM - 15 April, 2013
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But every music genre, sport, movie industry has its greats that will live forever. Rock ain't had a guitarist to touch Jimi in my eyes, don't mean that guitar playing is dead. Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time in a lot of peoples eyes (not mine but that's another thread) but that don't mean there were not great heavyweight's to come after him.

There are a lot of emcees that could step to Krs, LL, Eminem and Biggie on a lyrical level. You wouldn't have heard ninety percent of them though.


What you're trying to tell me is that there are GREATS, who just haven't been heard on a mass level.

Why not? It's been 15+ years, and the ONLY cats that have made MASS appeal who were ALSO Dope as hell, were ONLY BIG and EMINEM?

No, HipHop is dead dude.

Even if you go with the thing of "Styles" being different...so what?

Rakim's style was different than Kane's, who's was different than KRS's, who was different than BIG's, who was different than Eminem's.

They were ALL GREAT....

Who has been GREAT in HipHop since Eminem?

I don't even consider Jay Z great - He was just in the right place at the right time.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:26 PM - 15 April, 2013
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But every music genre, sport, movie industry has its greats that will live forever. Rock ain't had a guitarist to touch Jimi in my eyes, don't mean that guitar playing is dead. Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time in a lot of peoples eyes (not mine but that's another thread) but that don't mean there were not great heavyweight's to come after him.

There are a lot of emcees that could step to Krs, LL, Eminem and Biggie on a lyrical level. You wouldn't have heard ninety percent of them though.


What you're trying to tell me is that there are GREATS, who just haven't been heard on a mass level.

Why not? It's been 15+ years, and the ONLY cats that have made MASS appeal who were ALSO Dope as hell, were ONLY BIG and EMINEM?

No, HipHop is dead dude.

Even if you go with the thing of "Styles" being different...so what?

Rakim's style was different than Kane's, who's was different than KRS's, who was different than BIG's, who was different than Eminem's.

They were ALL GREAT....

Who has been GREAT in HipHop since Eminem?

I don't even consider Jay Z great - He was just in the right place at the right time.



What do you consider "since eminem"...
DJ Alkemy 5:28 PM - 15 April, 2013
That just shows you how little you know. Jay-Z in the right place at the right time?. Authentic Hip-Hop is not gonna be played on the radio, period. Now to you and the rest of the outside world, it must be dead cause it aint on Hot 97. Wrong. Hip-Hop artists are doing it for themselves these days. You heard of Rhymesayers?, Mello Music Group?, Ill Adrenaline Records?, Soulspazm records?. Thought not. They have artists releasing quality material, touring the globe, making great Hip-Hop. But because 50 year old Johnny, who dont even play Hip-Hop thinks its dead then it must be. GTFOH!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:30 PM - 15 April, 2013
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What do you consider "since eminem"...


Ha ha, that's funny, since Em actually FELL OFF since he's made it big...

But I mean since Em was "On Top" - Slim Shady, etc..etc.
DJ Alkemy 5:31 PM - 15 April, 2013
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What do you consider "since eminem"...


Ha ha, that's funny, since Em actually FELL OFF since he's made it big...

But I mean since Em was "On Top" - Slim Shady, etc..etc.


Even when Em was on top there were better MC's than him. Once again though, they were not in the spotlight.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:34 PM - 15 April, 2013
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That just shows you how little you know. Jay-Z in the right place at the right time?. Authentic Hip-Hop is not gonna be played on the radio, period. Now to you and the rest of the outside world, it must be dead cause it aint on Hot 97. Wrong. Hip-Hop artists are doing it for themselves these days. You heard of Rhymesayers?, Mello Music Group?, Ill Adrenaline Records?, Soulspazm records?. Thought not. They have artists releasing quality material, touring the globe, making great Hip-Hop. But because 50 year old Johnny, who dont even play Hip-Hop thinks its dead then it must be. GTFOH!


So you're basically saying that there is NOBODY GREAT ENOUGH in Today's "Real" HipHop to make it "BIG" like Emimen, Kane, Rakim, Biggie, etc..etc..

"Authentic" HipHop won't be played for the masses....when for YEARS it has been...

The groups you've mentioned -
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- how would they measure up against Kane, Rakim, Nas, etc..etc in their prime?

Are they GREATS?

You can't tell me that Greatness is surpressed by Radio.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:35 PM - 15 April, 2013
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What do you consider "since eminem"...


Ha ha, that's funny, since Em actually FELL OFF since he's made it big...

But I mean since Em was "On Top" - Slim Shady, etc..etc.


Even when Em was on top there were better MC's than him. Once again though, they were not in the spotlight.


WHO? That cat on the corner who could spit, but never got a break?

SURE! But you can't tell me that they ALL can't catch a break...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:36 PM - 15 April, 2013
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That just shows you how little you know. Jay-Z in the right place at the right time?


But here you are, giving him a HANDICAP.

Kane, KRS, Rakim, Nas, etc... Were dope 24/7 - They didn't need a "Right Place and Right Time".

This is what I'm talking about...

Greatness is UNIVERSAL. Period.
DJ Alkemy 5:37 PM - 15 April, 2013
The more the corporations have got a hold of the industry, the less authentic stuff you will get in the top 40. See the bigger picture.

And I could name you a list of artists that I think are/will/have potential to stand up to the greats of yesteryear.

But you aint a demographic that wants to hear it.

Your knowledge of Hip-Hop stops when Eminem came out. Thats lame.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:39 PM - 15 April, 2013
If you want my opinion id say birdman is infinatly better than em. Think about it, em had a rhyme encyclopedia in his head, you could give him any word in the english language and hed give you fifteen rhymes. With that much knowledge its fucking easy to crank out albums. Birdman on the other hand only knows about six words that rhyme and hes parlayed that into several albums and success similar to ems....di you know how versitile you gotta be when you only know words that rhyme with shine
Joshua Carl 5:40 PM - 15 April, 2013
"I like the money pit."
DJ Alkemy 5:40 PM - 15 April, 2013
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If you want my opinion id say birdman is infinatly better than em. Think about it, em had a rhyme encyclopedia in his head, you could give him any word in the english language and hed give you fifteen rhymes. With that much knowledge its fucking easy to crank out albums. Birdman on the other hand only knows about six words that rhyme and hes parlayed that into several albums and success similar to ems....di you know how versitile you gotta be when you only know words that rhyme with shine


LOL
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:41 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The more the corporations have got a hold of the industry, the less authentic stuff you will get in the top 40. See the bigger picture.

And I could name you a list of artists that I think are/will/have potential to stand up to the greats of yesteryear.

But you aint a demographic that wants to hear it.

Your knowledge of Hip-Hop stops when Eminem came out. Thats lame.


No, I'm being realistic.

Corporations can't stop GREATNESS forever...

SOMEBODY has to come out who can compete, AND make it big.

My "appreciation" for HipHop stops at Eminem, until somebody who can Lyrically throw down comes back out, and "makes it big".

You're basically saying those cats in the cypher are GREAT, but aren't getting exposure.

Wouldn't someone with cash put up for these guys, or are they REALLY not that Great in comparison to the cats I keep naming?
DJ Alkemy 5:48 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The more the corporations have got a hold of the industry, the less authentic stuff you will get in the top 40. See the bigger picture.

And I could name you a list of artists that I think are/will/have potential to stand up to the greats of yesteryear.

But you aint a demographic that wants to hear it.

Your knowledge of Hip-Hop stops when Eminem came out. Thats lame.


No, I'm being realistic.

Corporations can't stop GREATNESS forever...

SOMEBODY has to come out who can compete, AND make it big.

My "appreciation" for HipHop stops at Eminem, until somebody who can Lyrically throw down comes back out, and "makes it big".

You're basically saying those cats in the cypher are GREAT, but aren't getting exposure.

Wouldn't someone with cash put up for these guys, or are they REALLY not that Great in comparison to the cats I keep naming?


It goes way deeper than having someone with cash to put up.

And like I said, the DIY ethos is starting to shine through in Hip-Hop these days. They are touring, selling merch etc. Grinding it out.

And Johnny, if your appreciation stops at Eminem then you are just one of the many sheep we DJ's talk about.

Its like me saying I stopped listening to Drum & Bass when Roni Size called it a day. When in reality, I have no idea if there is good Drum & Bass coming out cause A) I don't really check for it no more B) I don't know the labels, artists to look out for anymore. But I sure as hell couldnt say to someone it is dead. That would sound like I know what Im talking about when I don't. Like you in this convo.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:50 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The more the corporations have got a hold of the industry, the less authentic stuff you will get in the top 40. See the bigger picture.

And I could name you a list of artists that I think are/will/have potential to stand up to the greats of yesteryear.

But you aint a demographic that wants to hear it.

Your knowledge of Hip-Hop stops when Eminem came out. Thats lame.


No, I'm being realistic.

Corporations can't stop GREATNESS forever...

SOMEBODY has to come out who can compete, AND make it big.

My "appreciation" for HipHop stops at Eminem, until somebody who can Lyrically throw down comes back out, and "makes it big".

You're basically saying those cats in the cypher are GREAT, but aren't getting exposure.

Wouldn't someone with cash put up for these guys, or are they REALLY not that Great in comparison to the cats I keep naming?



The problem is todays markets dont give a shit about lyrics so until you do you wont see the rise of great lyricists into the mainstream. Now adays noone can tell you any lyrics besides the hook
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:55 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It goes way deeper than having someone with cash to put up.

And like I said, the DIY ethos is starting to shine through in Hip-Hop these days. They are touring, selling merch etc. Grinding it out.

And Johnny, if your appreciation stops at Eminem then you are just one of the many sheep we DJ's talk about.

Its like me saying I stopped listening to Drum & Bass when Roni Size called it a day. When in reality, I have no idea if there is good Drum & Bass coming out cause A) I don't really check for it no more B) I don't know the labels, artists to look out for anymore. But I sure as hell couldnt say to someone it is dead. That would sound like I know what Im talking about when I don't. Like you in this convo.


You are full of sh*t. You can't produce ANYONE who can lyrically hang with those names I've mentioned because they simply aren't GREAT.

Aside from that, you're talking small potatoes....Touring, grinding, selling merch....whoo- hooo...

Public Enemy did ALL that too...especially on the Merchandise tip...

Who is the NEXT Rapper or Rap Group that can put it out like THEY did?

This is what I'm talking about....

I know hotness when I hear it....for example Jennifer Hudson...

When I first heard her, on American Idol, I just KNEW she was gonna win....but no.. Fantasia's Baby Momma story took that....

Can Jennifer sing CIRCLES around Fantasia?

Absolutely...

Did GREATS like Elton John SEE this, and act accordingly?

Sure did...

You can't tell me that with all the GREATS in HipHop, that they SEE Great Talent, but aren't putting them on...

They just aren't great....

Like you.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:58 PM - 15 April, 2013
Biggy is one of the most overrated lyricists of all time, there i said it
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:58 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The problem is todays markets dont give a shit about lyrics so until you do you wont see the rise of great lyricists into the mainstream. Now adays noone can tell you any lyrics besides the hook


I'll even GIVE you that...

But MY question was....

WHO IS GREAT NOW, compared to Em, Nas, Rakim, KRS, BIG, etc..etc...

Those guys were CONSISTANT...

You can't tell me that in 15+ years time, that ALL GREAT MC's since Eminem have been surpressed by Corporations, and the General Public has to go "Underground" to hear them.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:59 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Biggy is one of the most overrated lyricists of all time, there i said it


That may even BE SO, but he was a GREAT story teller...AKA Slick Rick...
DJ Alkemy 5:59 PM - 15 April, 2013
hahahahaha. Jennifer Hudson, Elton John, Fantasia.

GTFOH.

I aint writing lists down because I aint giving your old ass any help.

You say there aint no great lyricists out there cause your still listening to f***ing Good Times.

GTFOH with your stuck in the past ass.

As you were in this thread. This old dinosaur is just getting boring now.
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:00 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The problem is todays markets dont give a shit about lyrics so until you do you wont see the rise of great lyricists into the mainstream. Now adays noone can tell you any lyrics besides the hook


I'll even GIVE you that...

But MY question was....

WHO IS GREAT NOW, compared to Em, Nas, Rakim, KRS, BIG, etc..etc...

Those guys were CONSISTANT...

You can't tell me that in 15+ years time, that ALL GREAT MC's since Eminem have been surpressed by Corporations, and the General Public has to go "Underground" to hear them.


Ti?....
Ill sit down now
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:01 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Fantasia.

GTFOH.

Hey i love that movie!!
djaction 6:38 PM - 15 April, 2013
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What do you consider "since eminem"...


Ha ha, that's funny, since Em actually FELL OFF since he's made it big...

But I mean since Em was "On Top" - Slim Shady, etc..etc.



lol wut?

eminems first two or three albums despite being popular and selling millions of records.. he rapped completely off beat on every track. He was a battle rapper first and had no idea how to flow on beat/time. Eventually Dre got him rapping on beat.
djaction 6:39 PM - 15 April, 2013
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"Authentic" HipHop won't be played for the masses....when for YEARS it has been...


for years it has been? cite examples please.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:48 PM - 15 April, 2013
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I aint writing lists down because I aint giving your old ass any help.


There ain't nothing for you to write...Point blank.

LMAO! They're out there, you just can't hear them.

GTFOOH.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:49 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The problem is todays markets dont give a shit about lyrics so until you do you wont see the rise of great lyricists into the mainstream. Now adays noone can tell you any lyrics besides the hook


I'll even GIVE you that...

But MY question was....

WHO IS GREAT NOW, compared to Em, Nas, Rakim, KRS, BIG, etc..etc...

Those guys were CONSISTANT...

You can't tell me that in 15+ years time, that ALL GREAT MC's since Eminem have been surpressed by Corporations, and the General Public has to go "Underground" to hear them.


Ti?....
Ill sit down now

You think TI is comparable to KRS, NAS, Em?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:50 PM - 15 April, 2013
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for years it has been? cite examples please.

From Rapper's Delight to the demise of Biggie.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:52 PM - 15 April, 2013
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What do you consider "since eminem"...


Ha ha, that's funny, since Em actually FELL OFF since he's made it big...

But I mean since Em was "On Top" - Slim Shady, etc..etc.



lol wut?

eminems first two or three albums despite being popular and selling millions of records.. he rapped completely off beat on every track. He was a battle rapper first and had no idea how to flow on beat/time. Eventually Dre got him rapping on beat.


Are you actually dissecting Em's style ? Dude, NONE of today's rapper stay on beat..
Hell, he was the last one who DID!
DJ Alkemy 6:56 PM - 15 April, 2013
Johnny. Give me an example of what you class as todays rappers. The ones who dont stay on beat. Who cant compare to Em and Biggie etc. And don't say ALL OF THEM. I want to know what your grasp of the scene is. Because I suspect it is very limited.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:08 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The problem is todays markets dont give a shit about lyrics so until you do you wont see the rise of great lyricists into the mainstream. Now adays noone can tell you any lyrics besides the hook


I'll even GIVE you that...

But MY question was....

WHO IS GREAT NOW, compared to Em, Nas, Rakim, KRS, BIG, etc..etc...

Those guys were CONSISTANT...

You can't tell me that in 15+ years time, that ALL GREAT MC's since Eminem have been surpressed by Corporations, and the General Public has to go "Underground" to hear them.


Ti?....
Ill sit down now

You think TI is comparable to KRS, NAS, Em?


I think more on a level od consistancy and longevity....also i think nas is another totall overrated rapper, he has all the potential in the world but he never uses it...i think people want him to be good ssoooo bad
DJ Alkemy 7:11 PM - 15 April, 2013
Nas last album was weak in my opinion. He still is in my top 10 of all time though. His tin ear for a beat later on in his career was frustrating for me.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:21 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Nas last album was weak in my opinion. He still is in my top 10 of all time though. His tin ear for a beat later on in his career was frustrating for me.

Everytime i think if nas i think of that lost tapes album, i remeber listening to it thinking, wait so you DID have good beats you just decided not to use em!??
DJTorchmusic 7:23 PM - 15 April, 2013
Johnny, You're a cool Guy and you have more patience with these people than I.


These people will not agree with you because they are only interested in you liking their musical point of view.

Lil Wayne is not Garbage. He may not be that person's taste but he's talented and intelligent. Too many dudes on this forum thrive on disrespect, anger and musical bigotry (my way or the highway). Instead of making "derogatory" comments about bands and artists they should simply say "that's not my cup of tea". This would be the mature reply.

EXAMPLE: Today's Hip Hop -"Well, it's not really my cup of Tea", I'm more into Blah Blah".

Ignorant statements like "He's garbage" and referring to a Rap superstar. It doesn't work. Obviously the public don't see LIl Wayne as "garbage" since he's so popular.
djaction 7:25 PM - 15 April, 2013
^the public also thinks Justin Bieber isn't garbage either.. you're argument doesn't work.

Wayne *IS* garbage.. just by the very fact that he can't rap on beat. At least eminem finally learned how to.
DJ Alkemy 7:28 PM - 15 April, 2013
Ill say it again. Lil Wayne is garbage. His lyrics are ignorant, sub par, he is detrimental to Hip-Hop culture. He sells a fake persona to kids, he aint even in the top 20 of MC's out now, nevermind of all time. The ignorant shit he spews out is lowest common denominator music. Garbage for club goers to listen to and any person with a shred of dignity and musical taste would realise he is far from intelligent.

Im absolutely amazed someone used Lil Wayne and intelligent in the same sentence. Laughable.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:28 PM - 15 April, 2013
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^the public also thinks Justin Bieber isn't garbage either.. you're argument doesn't work.

Wayne *IS* garbage.. just by the very fact that he can't rap on beat. At least eminem finally learned how to.


Usher thought justin bieber was talented, also people said the exact same thing about justin timberlake and hes legit as hell

As far as wayne, you gotta give him cred for the sheer amount if work hes put in, aint to many got his grind
Ingo B 7:30 PM - 15 April, 2013
Wayne isn't as bad as Will.I.Am. Listen carefully to Will's lyrics. Horr.I.Ble
DJ Alkemy 7:32 PM - 15 April, 2013
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^the public also thinks Justin Bieber isn't garbage either.. you're argument doesn't work.

Wayne *IS* garbage.. just by the very fact that he can't rap on beat. At least eminem finally learned how to.


Usher thought justin bieber was talented, also people said the exact same thing about justin timberlake and hes legit as hell

As far as wayne, you gotta give him cred for the sheer amount if work hes put in, aint to many got his grind


I give him 0 credit. He is a puppet on a string. When people have had enough of him, he will be tossede into the trash bin. At what cost though. He would have already set a new low benchmark for lyrical skills, subject matter etc. The guy is a f***ing anti-christ. Not only for Hip-Hop but for music in general.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:32 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Wayne isn't as bad as Will.I.Am. Listen carefully to Will's lyrics. Horr.I.Ble

True, waynes kinda nice with his metafores, he can tell a story when hes gotta, i miss my dawgs was a great tracj for example.

But as ive said many times before im biased growunup in nola and with the hot boys bein my all time fave group
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:33 PM - 15 April, 2013
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^the public also thinks Justin Bieber isn't garbage either.. you're argument doesn't work.

Wayne *IS* garbage.. just by the very fact that he can't rap on beat. At least eminem finally learned how to.


Usher thought justin bieber was talented, also people said the exact same thing about justin timberlake and hes legit as hell

As far as wayne, you gotta give him cred for the sheer amount if work hes put in, aint to many got his grind


I give him 0 credit. He is a puppet on a string. When people have had enough of him, he will be tossede into the trash bin. At what cost though. He would have already set a new low benchmark for lyrical skills, subject matter etc. The guy is a f***ing anti-christ. Not only for Hip-Hop but for music in general.



Hes been in the game since 96 its not like hes a flybynight
DJ Alkemy 7:35 PM - 15 April, 2013
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^the public also thinks Justin Bieber isn't garbage either.. you're argument doesn't work.

Wayne *IS* garbage.. just by the very fact that he can't rap on beat. At least eminem finally learned how to.


Usher thought justin bieber was talented, also people said the exact same thing about justin timberlake and hes legit as hell

As far as wayne, you gotta give him cred for the sheer amount if work hes put in, aint to many got his grind


I give him 0 credit. He is a puppet on a string. When people have had enough of him, he will be tossede into the trash bin. At what cost though. He would have already set a new low benchmark for lyrical skills, subject matter etc. The guy is a f***ing anti-christ. Not only for Hip-Hop but for music in general.



Hes been in the game since 96 its not like hes a flybynight


Yeah, and all that time he aint made ONE classic album.

He sucks. His lyrics are garbage, his flow is beyond lame, his voice is annoying. He is as wack as they come. Its really sad how someone as wack as him can even spark debate.
DJTorchmusic 7:36 PM - 15 April, 2013
It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.
DJTorchmusic 7:37 PM - 15 April, 2013
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^the public also thinks Justin Bieber isn't garbage either.. you're argument doesn't work.

Wayne *IS* garbage.. just by the very fact that he can't rap on beat. At least eminem finally learned how to.


Usher thought justin bieber was talented, also people said the exact same thing about justin timberlake and hes legit as hell

As far as wayne, you gotta give him cred for the sheer amount if work hes put in, aint to many got his grind


I give him 0 credit. He is a puppet on a string. When people have had enough of him, he will be tossede into the trash bin. At what cost though. He would have already set a new low benchmark for lyrical skills, subject matter etc. The guy is a f***ing anti-christ. Not only for Hip-Hop but for music in general.



Hes been in the game since 96 its not like hes a flybynight


well said.
DJ Alkemy 7:39 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.


Torch, your music sucks balls, simple as that. So dont talk about platinum hits, street cred etc etc. Your completely deluded in your ability as a DJ, your worth, the amount of followers you have etc. Your in with Johnny. An old ass DJ who lost touch with music a long time ago.

I couldnt give a flying f*** who got a platinum hit. Record sales aint a barometer on talent. You, and people like you, are the reason why so much garbage gets released today. F***ing wack synthy, cheesy, repetative beats, played to a bunch of zombie sheep in a shitty ass bottle service club. You bore me.
DJTorchmusic 7:40 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.


Torch, your music sucks balls, simple as that. So dont talk about platinum hits, street cred etc etc. Your completely deluded in your ability as a DJ, your worth, the amount of followers you have etc. Your in with Johnny. An old ass DJ who lost touch with music a long time ago.

See what I mean?
I couldnt give a flying f*** who got a platinum hit. Record sales aint a barometer on talent. You, and people like you, are the reason why so much garbage gets released today. F***ing wack synthy, cheesy, repetative beats, played to a bunch of zombie sheep in a shitty ass bottle service club. You bore me.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:40 PM - 15 April, 2013
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^the public also thinks Justin Bieber isn't garbage either.. you're argument doesn't work.

Wayne *IS* garbage.. just by the very fact that he can't rap on beat. At least eminem finally learned how to.


Usher thought justin bieber was talented, also people said the exact same thing about justin timberlake and hes legit as hell

As far as wayne, you gotta give him cred for the sheer amount if work hes put in, aint to many got his grind


I give him 0 credit. He is a puppet on a string. When people have had enough of him, he will be tossede into the trash bin. At what cost though. He would have already set a new low benchmark for lyrical skills, subject matter etc. The guy is a f***ing anti-christ. Not only for Hip-Hop but for music in general.



Hes been in the game since 96 its not like hes a flybynight


Yeah, and all that time he aint made ONE classic album.

He sucks. His lyrics are garbage, his flow is beyond lame, his voice is annoying. He is as wack as they come. Its really sad how someone as wack as him can even spark debate.


Define classic album, do his hot boy albums count?
DJTorchmusic 7:40 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.


Torch, your music sucks balls, simple as that. So dont talk about platinum hits, street cred etc etc. Your completely deluded in your ability as a DJ, your worth, the amount of followers you have etc. Your in with Johnny. An old ass DJ who lost touch with music a long time ago.

See what I mean?
I couldnt give a flying f*** who got a platinum hit. Record sales aint a barometer on talent. You, and people like you, are the reason why so much garbage gets released today. F***ing wack synthy, cheesy, repetative beats, played to a bunch of zombie sheep in a shitty ass bottle service club. You bore me.


See What I mean? Crack Head theory in effect.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:41 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.


Torch, your music sucks balls, simple as that. So dont talk about platinum hits, street cred etc etc. Your completely deluded in your ability as a DJ, your worth, the amount of followers you have etc. Your in with Johnny. An old ass DJ who lost touch with music a long time ago.

See what I mean?
I couldnt give a flying f*** who got a platinum hit. Record sales aint a barometer on talent. You, and people like you, are the reason why so much garbage gets released today. F***ing wack synthy, cheesy, repetative beats, played to a bunch of zombie sheep in a shitty ass bottle service club. You bore me.

Lol
djkurve 7:41 PM - 15 April, 2013
Back on topic!!! TONIGHT! Episode 3

youtu.be
DJ Alkemy 7:41 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.


Torch, your music sucks balls, simple as that. So dont talk about platinum hits, street cred etc etc. Your completely deluded in your ability as a DJ, your worth, the amount of followers you have etc. Your in with Johnny. An old ass DJ who lost touch with music a long time ago.

See what I mean?
I couldnt give a flying f*** who got a platinum hit. Record sales aint a barometer on talent. You, and people like you, are the reason why so much garbage gets released today. F***ing wack synthy, cheesy, repetative beats, played to a bunch of zombie sheep in a shitty ass bottle service club. You bore me.


See What I mean? Crack Head theory in effect.


haha. Nice anology. Steroid boy. LOL
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:42 PM - 15 April, 2013
In my personal opinion the hot boys get it how you live album was a classic, every song was great and it holds up to this day
DJ Alkemy 7:44 PM - 15 April, 2013
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In my personal opinion the hot boys get it how you live album was a classic, every song was great and it holds up to this day


Some of the production was pretty good. Lyrical content I think 90 percent of their stuff sucks. But its definitely a regional thing. I could play you some UK Hip-Hop and you might be like WTF! cause the content don't apply well to your circumstances. Thats one of the beautiful things about Hip-Hop, it can mean different things to so many people.
DJ Alkemy 7:48 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Back on topic!!! TONIGHT! Episode 3

youtu.be


Cant get it over here in the UK. Wanted to see the Cut Chemist (who da fugg LOL) episode too.

Who was the dude dancing like a nutter behind the TT's. I can see him becoming funny/annoying.
DJTorchmusic 7:55 PM - 15 April, 2013
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In my personal opinion the hot boys get it how you live album was a classic, every song was great and it holds up to this day


Agreed, I heard it played in a Vegas club and it packed the floor.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:55 PM - 15 April, 2013
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In my personal opinion the hot boys get it how you live album was a classic, every song was great and it holds up to this day


Some of the production was pretty good. Lyrical content I think 90 percent of their stuff sucks. But its definitely a regional thing. I could play you some UK Hip-Hop and you might be like WTF! cause the content don't apply well to your circumstances. Thats one of the beautiful things about Hip-Hop, it can mean different things to so many people.
agreed
pdidy 8:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Your in with Johnny........

Or are they one in the same.....hmmmm
Robbie O 8:09 PM - 15 April, 2013
untracking
DJTorchmusic 8:16 PM - 15 April, 2013
Dude in the UK talking shit about American Hip Hop...Amazing :-\ . Next thing he'll say is the Beatles ain't shit.
DJ Alkemy 8:19 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Dude in the UK talking shit about American Hip Hop...Amazing :-\ . Next thing he'll say is the Beatles ain't shit.


Im talking about Hip-Hop period. Not just American Hip-Hop. And so what if I was. Geography dont mean I don't have an opinion on the music and culture I been a fan of since I was ten years old. And your point don't make sense at all. Your losing your marbles old man.
DJTorchmusic 8:25 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Dude in the UK talking shit about American Hip Hop...Amazing :-\ . Next thing he'll say is the Beatles ain't shit.


Im talking about Hip-Hop period. Not just American Hip-Hop. And so what if I was. Geography dont mean I don't have an opinion on the music and culture I been a fan of since I was ten years old. And your point don't make sense at all. Your losing your marbles old man.


My point, since you didn't have the IQ to get it, means that you'd talk shit about even a superstar band, like the Beatles. You like to talk shit and put people down. You're very negative. You could simply say "A lot of the new American Rap music is not to my liking" But, you decided to simply talk shit about Rap Superstars instead. Who da fuck are you?

Why you so negative dude? I"m serious...
DJ Alkemy 8:31 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Dude in the UK talking shit about American Hip Hop...Amazing :-\ . Next thing he'll say is the Beatles ain't shit.


Im talking about Hip-Hop period. Not just American Hip-Hop. And so what if I was. Geography dont mean I don't have an opinion on the music and culture I been a fan of since I was ten years old. And your point don't make sense at all. Your losing your marbles old man.


My point, since you didn't have the IQ to get it, means that you'd talk shit about even a superstar band, like the Beatles. You like to talk shit and put people down. You're very negative. You could simply say "A lot of the new American Rap music is not to my liking" But, you decided to simply talk shit about Rap Superstars instead. Who da fuck are you?

Why you so negative dude? I"m serious...


First off. The Beatles were amazing. John Lennon being a lyricist of the highest order.

Rap Superstars?. Who gives a shit if they are superstars. They aint my heroes.

In fact, people like Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and the like are the main reason behind Hip-Hops diminishing respect among music fans. The subject matter, the lyrics, the selling of a lifestyle that is out of reach for most people. Its a hedonistic approach that makes young people value material things over education and living in the real world. Your just too caught up in all the club music to see it for yourself. Shame on you, your old enough to know better.

Im negative when it comes to negative music. When it comes to people like you who talk about Twitter followers, platinum hits etc like thats what the youth or anyone involved in music should aspire to. And to say things like that when you aint done jack shit yourself is embarrassing.
AKIEM 8:32 PM - 15 April, 2013
Barbara Striesand = Classic Rock = LMFAO WTF?

Classic Rock w/o Jimi Hendrix? AYFKM?



KRS - PE - RAKIM really never got Radio ROTATION. They got video, collage radio, and radio SHOW play.

Hammer and ICE got regular rotion - same with the hot ass garbage these days.
(some of it has become tolerable, but most of it is forgettable and the real reason for the decline in tangible music sales - if your mp3 gets erased - oh well)
DJTorchmusic 8:44 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Dude in the UK talking shit about American Hip Hop...Amazing :-\ . Next thing he'll say is the Beatles ain't shit.


Im talking about Hip-Hop period. Not just American Hip-Hop. And so what if I was. Geography dont mean I don't have an opinion on the music and culture I been a fan of since I was ten years old. And your point don't make sense at all. Your losing your marbles old man.


My point, since you didn't have the IQ to get it, means that you'd talk shit about even a superstar band, like the Beatles. You like to talk shit and put people down. You're very negative. You could simply say "A lot of the new American Rap music is not to my liking" But, you decided to simply talk shit about Rap Superstars instead. Who da fuck are you?

Why you so negative dude? I"m serious...


First off. The Beatles were amazing. John Lennon being a lyricist of the highest order.

Rap Superstars?. Who gives a shit if they are superstars. They aint my heroes.

In fact, people like Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and the like are the main reason behind Hip-Hops diminishing respect among music fans. The subject matter, the lyrics, the selling of a lifestyle that is out of reach for most people. Its a hedonistic approach that makes young people value material things over education and living in the real world. Your just too caught up in all the club music to see it for yourself. Shame on you, your old enough to know better.

Im negative when it comes to negative music. When it comes to people like you who talk about Twitter followers, platinum hits etc like thats what the youth or anyone involved in music should aspire to. And to say things like that when you aint done jack shit yourself is embarrassing.


Actually, I was behind the scenes on some pretty big things back in the day. But, I'm not telling you what.

Secondly, Your argument may come off better if you wasn't talking the same shit they do in their music.

you're rude, you're negative, you're derogatory, you probably hate those of african heritage and your angry. A person who's feeling good about themselves don't talk like you do. I'm giving you the opportunity to make the same positive change you want mainstream rappers to make.

Why should a super famous Rapper with money stop talking shit, when you won't? Well?
DJ Alkemy 8:55 PM - 15 April, 2013
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I'll be on the edge of my seat until I find that out. Seriously.

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I dont talk about cars, drugs, women, twitter followers, fame, etc etc etc. Moot point

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Really?, pulling the race card. Get a grip. I could deconstruct your pathetic label but Im sure your known as a jackass in this thread already so Ill let you wollow in the hole you keep digging for yourself. And your confusing anger for passion.

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And trying to gauge someones level of happiness from a thread on the internet is never gonna work. Im happy as that guy called Larry. I have tracks blazing while Im having fun talking to you on here.

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I'm giving you the opportunity to make the same positive change you want mainstream rappers to make.


Lets get this straight. You dont give me NO oppurtunity for nothing. You aint got my respect, my adoration, for your beatmaking skills, your DJ skills, your level of knowledge about the subject we are discussing. If anyone is gonna have an oppurtunity to back out of this conversation with at least a smidgen of dignity it will be you, get that straight.

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Why should a super famous Rapper with money stop talking shit, when you won't? Well?


That is like a 10 year old speaking. How old are you?. And they will never stop talking shit. Not while dumbasses like yourself buy the music.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:59 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Johnny. Give me an example of what you class as todays rappers. The ones who dont stay on beat. Who cant compare to Em and Biggie etc. And don't say ALL OF THEM. I want to know what your grasp of the scene is. Because I suspect it is very limited.


Today's CURRENT scene is GAWBAGE....

Of course you have your "concious" rappers like Common, but MY question is pretty simple...

WHO IS GREAT?

Underground or otherwise?

Can they compare to BIG, KRS, Rakim, LL, Em...

My argument is that there hasn't been ANYONE GREAT like those mentioned above since, say Eminem and Biggie...

And you're saying - There are LOTS....

And I'm saying OK, if that's the case - WHO can compare to B.I.G, KRS, Rakim, or LL, Em, or Kane?

WHO?
Kool DJ Sheak One 9:00 PM - 15 April, 2013
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol at this fucking hypocrite Case in point...

Watchwww.youtube.com

Saying "You gotta play what the people want"
Unless it's reggae!
DJ Alkemy 9:02 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Johnny. Give me an example of what you class as todays rappers. The ones who dont stay on beat. Who cant compare to Em and Biggie etc. And don't say ALL OF THEM. I want to know what your grasp of the scene is. Because I suspect it is very limited.


Today's CURRENT scene is GAWBAGE....

Of course you have your "concious" rappers like Common, but MY question is pretty simple...

WHO IS GREAT?

Underground or otherwise?

Can they compare to BIG, KRS, Rakim, LL, Em...

My argument is that there hasn't been ANYONE GREAT like those mentioned above since, say Eminem and Biggie...

And you're saying - There are LOTS....

And I'm saying OK, if that's the case - WHO can compare to B.I.G, KRS, Rakim, or LL, Em, or Kane?

WHO?


Johnny, your saying the scene is GAWBAGE without having one solitary clue on what artists are out there. The difinition of ignorant.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:03 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah, and all that time he aint made ONE classic album.


THIS is where I was going....

WHO has made a CLASSIC ALBUM since Biggie or Em?

Seriously?

Underground or otherwise?
DJTorchmusic 9:03 PM - 15 April, 2013
thank you for convincing me (and probably others) that you're just an "Arse". Nothing more ...nothing less.

I believe the next step is to make an agreement for you to ignore my post and I yours.

I find you disgusting.
DJ Alkemy 9:03 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah, and all that time he aint made ONE classic album.


THIS is where I was going....

WHO has made a CLASSIC ALBUM since Biggie or Em?

Seriously?

Underground or otherwise?


I could name a few. But I want to see what artists you even heard of haha. Joker.
DJ Alkemy 9:04 PM - 15 April, 2013
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thank you for convincing me (and probably others) that you're just an "Arse". Nothing more ...nothing less.

I believe the next step is to make an agreement for you to ignore my post and I yours.

I find you disgusting.


Listen, I find you an arrogant, steroid induced arsehole. Flinging around accusations. Tosser.
DJTorchmusic 9:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Actually, I was behind the scenes on some pretty big things back in the day. But, I'm not telling you what.


I'll be on the edge of my seat until I find that out. Seriously.

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Secondly, Your argument may come off better if you wasn't talking the same shit they do in their music.


I dont talk about cars, drugs, women, twitter followers, fame, etc etc etc. Moot point

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you're rude, you're negative, you're derogatory, you probably hate those of african heritage and your angry.


Really?, pulling the race card. Get a grip. I could deconstruct your pathetic label but Im sure your known as a jackass in this thread already so Ill let you wollow in the hole you keep digging for yourself. And your confusing anger for passion.

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A person who's feeling good about themselves don't talk like you do.


And trying to gauge someones level of happiness from a thread on the internet is never gonna work. Im happy as that guy called Larry. I have tracks blazing while Im having fun talking to you on here.

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I'm giving you the opportunity to make the same positive change you want mainstream rappers to make.


Lets get this straight. You dont give me NO oppurtunity for nothing. You aint got my respect, my adoration, for your beatmaking skills, your DJ skills, your level of knowledge about the subject we are discussing. If anyone is gonna have an oppurtunity to back out of this conversation with at least a smidgen of dignity it will be you, get that straight.

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Why should a super famous Rapper with money stop talking shit, when you won't? Well?


That is like a 10 year old speaking. How old are you?. And they will never stop talking shit. Not while dumbasses like yourself buy the music.

thank you for convincing me (and probably others) that you're just an "Arse". Nothing more ...nothing less.

I believe the next step is to make an agreement for you to ignore my post and I yours.

I find you disgusting.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
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You bore me.


Look at you. Can't even carry on a conversation without gettin' all misty and *ish.

What, you're mad that you've over 30 and ain't ON YET, and this convo hit a nerve?

Again, you AND the cats you hold down have a LIMITED audience, but AGAIN, that's not what I'm asking...

I'm asking WHO has been GREAT since Biggie and Em?

WHO put out a Classic HipHop Album since them?
DJTorchmusic 9:06 PM - 15 April, 2013
Johnny, Don't pay that "Arse" any mind. He's just here to be who he is.
DJ Alkemy 9:08 PM - 15 April, 2013
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You bore me.


Look at you. Can't even carry on a conversation without gettin' all misty and *ish.

What, you're mad that you've over 30 and ain't ON YET, and this convo hit a nerve?

Again, you AND the cats you hold down have a LIMITED audience, but AGAIN, that's not what I'm asking...

I'm asking WHO has been GREAT since Biggie and Em?

WHO put out a Classic HipHop Album since them?



Aint on?...I dont chase that dream brother.

And like I have said multiple times. What good is it me naming you classic albums when you have no idea of the scene since Biggie or Em!. Your so over the hill and out of touch that you cant see that there has been classic albums being made. But you will never know cause you dont even check for it no more. How much sillier can this convo get?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:09 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Your in with Johnny........

Or are they one in the same.....hmmmm


No, becuz I DO think Lil Wayne is GAWBAGE...lol...
DJ Alkemy 9:09 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Johnny, Don't pay that "Arse" any mind. He's just here to be who he is.


Listen grandpa, when people dont agree with your definition of waht makes a good artist that is called an opinion. If Im an ass for having one then guess what, the whole world is full of arseholes.

Just keep on pulling the race card and injecting your old ass full of steroids, that'll calm you down LOL
DJTorchmusic 9:10 PM - 15 April, 2013
Johnny, How's your day coming along. Are you gonna watch Masters of the MIx tonight? I"m not. I'm not feeling the "message" the special guest DJ is putting out there. I found his comment about "Stripper Music" to be derogatory and ignorant. Rap Music Lyrics could use some improvement, but we can probably say that about most popular Genre's.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:11 PM - 15 April, 2013
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In fact, people like Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and the like are the main reason behind Hip-Hops diminishing respect among music fans. The subject matter, the lyrics, the selling of a lifestyle that is out of reach for most people. Its a hedonistic approach that makes young people value material things over education and living in the real world.


See, we ACTUALLY AGREE HERE....

But AGAIN, who's been GREAT since B.I.G. and EM?

Who has put out a CLASSIC HipHop Album?

Why hasn't anybody stepped up to the plate?
DJ Alkemy 9:11 PM - 15 April, 2013
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In fact, people like Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and the like are the main reason behind Hip-Hops diminishing respect among music fans. The subject matter, the lyrics, the selling of a lifestyle that is out of reach for most people. Its a hedonistic approach that makes young people value material things over education and living in the real world.


See, we ACTUALLY AGREE HERE....

But AGAIN, who's been GREAT since B.I.G. and EM?

Who has put out a CLASSIC HipHop Album?

Why hasn't anybody stepped up to the plate?


People have. You just dont know it!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:12 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah, and all that time he aint made ONE classic album.


THIS is where I was going....

WHO has made a CLASSIC ALBUM since Biggie or Em?

Seriously?

Underground or otherwise?

50
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:14 PM - 15 April, 2013
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KRS - PE - RAKIM really never got Radio ROTATION. They got video, collage radio, and radio SHOW play.


Ok, let's roll with that...

WHY did they get that type of exposure?

What makes them different than the "Underground GREATS" of today?
DJTorchmusic 9:16 PM - 15 April, 2013
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In fact, people like Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and the like are the main reason behind Hip-Hops diminishing respect among music fans. The subject matter, the lyrics, the selling of a lifestyle that is out of reach for most people. Its a hedonistic approach that makes young people value material things over education and living in the real world.


See, we ACTUALLY AGREE HERE....

But AGAIN, who's been GREAT since B.I.G. and EM?

Who has put out a CLASSIC HipHop Album?

Why hasn't anybody stepped up to the plate?


Johnny,

I believe classic hip hop has migrated into NEO SOUL. That's why I mentioned those Artists before. If you listen to NEO Soul, you'll notice it's got that classic hip hop sound to it. The only difference is they sing over it now and not just rap over it. NEO Soul is a Genre's which has some of the most talented Vocalist in! I forgot to add Alicia Keys to the list before she went Pop.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:16 PM - 15 April, 2013
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In fact, people like Lil Wayne, Rick Ross and the like are the main reason behind Hip-Hops diminishing respect among music fans. The subject matter, the lyrics, the selling of a lifestyle that is out of reach for most people. Its a hedonistic approach that makes young people value material things over education and living in the real world.


See, we ACTUALLY AGREE HERE....

But AGAIN, who's been GREAT since B.I.G. and EM?

Who has put out a CLASSIC HipHop Album?

Why hasn't anybody stepped up to the plate?



50 cent get rich or die trying was a classic
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:16 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah, and all that time he aint made ONE classic album.


THIS is where I was going....

WHO has made a CLASSIC ALBUM since Biggie or Em?

Seriously?

Underground or otherwise?

50


Ok, I'm GLAD SOMEONE said him...

Perfect Example...

He was THE MAN for a HOT SECOND... and DID put out a Classic HipHop Album... "Get Rich"....

But check his Lyrical Content....How long could that last?

Where does 50 compare in contrast to Rakim, LL, Kane, Em?
DJ Alkemy 9:16 PM - 15 April, 2013
^^^^^LOOOOL^^^^^^
DJ Alkemy 9:17 PM - 15 April, 2013
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^^^^^LOOOOL^^^^^^


That was for the bizarre Neo Soul comment once again. Does someone want to tell him how ridiculous that is?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:20 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Johnny, your saying the scene is GAWBAGE without having one solitary clue on what artists are out there. The difinition of ignorant.


If THAT is your feeling, then ENLIGHTEN ME...

WHO has put out a CLASSIC ALBUM?

Who is GREAT?

Who can compare to KRS, Em, Nas, Biggie, Kane?

It's been 15+ YEARS MAN...wtf?

Do you see why I say HipHop is Dead?
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:20 PM - 15 April, 2013
How about kayne with college dropout?
MelonHead 9:20 PM - 15 April, 2013
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:21 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah, and all that time he aint made ONE classic album.


THIS is where I was going....

WHO has made a CLASSIC ALBUM since Biggie or Em?

Seriously?

Underground or otherwise?

50


Ok, I'm GLAD SOMEONE said him...

Perfect Example...

He was THE MAN for a HOT SECOND... and DID put out a Classic HipHop Album... "Get Rich"....

But check his Lyrical Content....How long could that last?

Where does 50 compare in contrast to Rakim, LL, Kane, Em?


Wow nice question...i know the track with 50 AND em in get rich was fucking NICE
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:22 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Johnny, Don't pay that "Arse" any mind. He's just here to be who he is.


LOL, and I can RESPECT your admiration for Lil Wayne and all, but my personal opinion of him is, well you already know...lmao.

I'm still trying to find out what Great Rapper I'm missing out on who can compare to Biggie, Em, Nas, Kane, LL and KRS...
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:22 PM - 15 April, 2013
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How about kayne with college dropout?

Or lupe fiasco with food and liquor
Outkast with stankonia??
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:22 PM - 15 April, 2013
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How about kayne with college dropout?


Negative.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:24 PM - 15 April, 2013
I'm not really buying the NEOSoul thing too much...as I just view that as a vehicle for a rapper to "Get On" vs. straight beats and rhymes....

BUT I understand the need to get put on "By Any Means Necessary".
DJTorchmusic 9:25 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Johnny, Don't pay that "Arse" any mind. He's just here to be who he is.


LOL, and I can RESPECT your admiration for Lil Wayne and all, but my personal opinion of him is, well you already know...lmao.

I'm still trying to find out what Great Rapper I'm missing out on who can compare to Biggie, Em, Nas, Kane, LL and KRS...


I don't adore LIL Wayne. But I do respect his talent and like his rapping style. My main man would have to be 2Pac. He was a party rocker with a poetic style.
AKIEM 9:27 PM - 15 April, 2013
Jay Z
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KRS - PE - RAKIM really never got Radio ROTATION. They got video, collage radio, and radio SHOW play.


Ok, let's roll with that...

WHY did they get that type of exposure?

What makes them different than the "Underground GREATS" of today?


Nah, what Im saying is the Industry is different now. The Classic Greats never got Radio Rotation. - RR is reserved for trash music like Hammer and V Ice - same as today. Only the radio pushes nothing but that trash - which yes killed Hip-Hop from that point of view.

BUT - the Rakim, Kane, KRS were really not too far above where underground is today. We got Underground artists nowadays bringing in 6 figures...
DJ Alkemy 9:27 PM - 15 April, 2013
Some stuff from the last couple of years:

Rashad & Confidence-The Element Of Suprise....CLASSIC
OC & Apollo Brown-Trophies
Rhapsody-The Idea Of Beautiful
Skyzoo-A Dream Deferred
Purpose & Confidence-The Purpose Of Confidence....CLASSIC
Apollo Brown & Guilty Simpson-Dice Game
Aesop Rock-Skelethon
Cunninlynguists-Oneirology....CLASSIC
Kno-Death Is Certain
Homeboy Sandman-First Of A Living Breed

More well known:

Cannibal Ox-The Cold Vein....CLASSIC
Ghostface Killah-Supreme Clientele....CLASSIC
Jaylib-Champion Sound....CLASSIC

Seriously, I could name 20 albums from last year that were real good. A few classics IMO.

And dont give me the "its a niche" line. Its Hip-Hop, end of.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:33 PM - 15 April, 2013
Wow now this is interesting

Johnny heres a list of the most influencial albums....notice the dates included


en.m.wikipedia.org
DJ Alkemy 9:33 PM - 15 April, 2013
Add artists like Oddisee, Trek Life, Evidence, Apathy, Oh No, Chief Kamachi, Vakill, Planet Asia, Blu, ED OG, Vinnie Paz, Roc Marciano, The Left, Madlib, Marco Polo etc into the mix too. Thats just recent stuff I bought too.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:35 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Some stuff from the last couple of years:

Rashad & Confidence-The Element Of Suprise....CLASSIC
OC & Apollo Brown-Trophies
Rhapsody-The Idea Of Beautiful
Skyzoo-A Dream Deferred
Purpose & Confidence-The Purpose Of Confidence....CLASSIC
Apollo Brown & Guilty Simpson-Dice Game
Aesop Rock-Skelethon
Cunninlynguists-Oneirology....CLASSIC
Kno-Death Is Certain
Homeboy Sandman-First Of A Living Breed

More well known:

Cannibal Ox-The Cold Vein....CLASSIC
Ghostface Killah-Supreme Clientele....CLASSIC
Jaylib-Champion Sound....CLASSIC

Seriously, I could name 20 albums from last year that were real good. A few classics IMO.

And dont give me the "its a niche" line. Its Hip-Hop, end of.


Ok, fine...

Now have they reached their FULLEST potential?

Why haven't they "Made It Big"?

Who is holding them down?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:35 PM - 15 April, 2013
And most importantly...

Who compares to BIG, LL, Nas, Kane, Em and Rakim?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:37 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Wow now this is interesting

Johnny heres a list of the most influencial albums....notice the dates included


en.m.wikipedia.org


RIGHT!

Everything ENDS at 2001...with Eminem.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:38 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Wow now this is interesting

Johnny heres a list of the most influencial albums....notice the dates included


en.m.wikipedia.org


RIGHT!

Everything ENDS at 2001...with Eminem.


Gotta say you have facts in your favor (except it ends with jay z lol) gotta say you might be right
DJ Alkemy 9:38 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Some stuff from the last couple of years:

Rashad & Confidence-The Element Of Suprise....CLASSIC
OC & Apollo Brown-Trophies
Rhapsody-The Idea Of Beautiful
Skyzoo-A Dream Deferred
Purpose & Confidence-The Purpose Of Confidence....CLASSIC
Apollo Brown & Guilty Simpson-Dice Game
Aesop Rock-Skelethon
Cunninlynguists-Oneirology....CLASSIC
Kno-Death Is Certain
Homeboy Sandman-First Of A Living Breed

More well known:

Cannibal Ox-The Cold Vein....CLASSIC
Ghostface Killah-Supreme Clientele....CLASSIC
Jaylib-Champion Sound....CLASSIC

Seriously, I could name 20 albums from last year that were real good. A few classics IMO.

And dont give me the "its a niche" line. Its Hip-Hop, end of.


Ok, fine...

Now have they reached their FULLEST potential?

Why haven't they "Made It Big"?

Who is holding them down?


The industry has changed. Why would you be trying to push material like those I listed to the audience that are buying mp3's these days. These independent record companies are realising that they dont need big publishing deals with majors, they dont need expensive videos. The internet is their friend. They can do a lot of things from their office in their house LOL.

And if you aint researched into the music business about the main corporations blacklists, playlists, power etc then why would I even bother to try and explain.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:38 PM - 15 April, 2013
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And most importantly...

Who compares to BIG, LL, Nas, Kane, Em and Rakim?

.....nelly? Lol
DJ Alkemy 9:40 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Wow now this is interesting

Johnny heres a list of the most influencial albums....notice the dates included


en.m.wikipedia.org


RIGHT!

Everything ENDS at 2001...with Eminem.


Do some research as to why certain artists are getting blacklisted. Why garbage like Rick Ross and Lil Wayne are getting all the play. Why indie labels are doing it for themselves. Why nearly every company, radio station in the world is owned by the same big corporations. Then come back to me.
DJ DisGrace 9:42 PM - 15 April, 2013
Man... this thread exploded!

First, Thank You AKIEM. I thought I was in the twilight zone:
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Barbara Striesand = Classic Rock = LMFAO WTF?

Classic Rock w/o Jimi Hendrix? AYFKM?


Second:
Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.


Third:
The ONLY Eminem album I would consider 'decent' is The Slim Shady LP. But pleeeaaaassse stop putting him in the same sentence as Rakim, Nas, LL, etc... One or two good songs does not make you a legend. Everything since that has been angry yelling bs that hurst to listen to.
DJ Alkemy 9:46 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Man... this thread exploded!

First, Thank You AKIEM. I thought I was in the twilight zone:
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Barbara Striesand = Classic Rock = LMFAO WTF?

Classic Rock w/o Jimi Hendrix? AYFKM?


Second:
Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.


Third:
The ONLY Eminem album I would consider 'decent' is The Slim Shady LP. But pleeeaaaassse stop putting him in the same sentence as Rakim, Nas, LL, etc... One or two good songs does not make you a legend. Everything since that has been angry yelling bs that hurst to listen to.


He did leave a few nuggets up though: Watchwww.youtube.com
DJTorchmusic 9:48 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Man... this thread exploded!

First, Thank You AKIEM. I thought I was in the twilight zone:
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Barbara Striesand = Classic Rock = LMFAO WTF?

Classic Rock w/o Jimi Hendrix? AYFKM?


Second:
Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.


I removed them because I didn't want to be hounded by "raving Lunatics".


Third:
The ONLY Eminem album I would consider 'decent' is The Slim Shady LP. But pleeeaaaassse stop putting him in the same sentence as Rakim, Nas, LL, etc... One or two good songs does not make you a legend. Everything since that has been angry yelling bs that hurst to listen to.

I agree
DJ Alkemy 9:50 PM - 15 April, 2013
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I removed them because I didn't want to be hounded by "raving Lunatics".


Trust me. I wouldnt be watching ANY of them vids on the regular.
DJTorchmusic 9:57 PM - 15 April, 2013
The Industry is driven off record sales and record sales drives the industry. If classic hip hop or any other Genre was selling like mainstream hip hop and EDM then we would hear more classic hip hop or other genre's of music. If polka music was hot, we would be hearing polka music!

The painful truth is that classic hip hop and my beloved NEO soul & R&B is not selling nearly enough to make a dent in this "high noise" industry. Also, what no one has mentioned, is that making "organic" hip hop takes more time, effort and talent. The industry's not that patient.
Dj Shamann 9:58 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.



Yet you're here talking shit about Cut Chemist, who is a better Dj than you, more successful than you, is known more than you and *gasp* has more "followers" than you.

LOL
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:01 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The industry has changed. Why would you be trying to push material like those I listed to the audience that are buying mp3's these days. These independent record companies are realising that they dont need big publishing deals with majors, they dont need expensive videos. The internet is their friend. They can do a lot of things from their office in their house LOL.

And if you aint researched into the music business about the main corporations blacklists, playlists, power etc then why would I even bother to try and explain.


In one breath, you're saying why push THIS QUALITY HIPHOP to those who are buying MP3's, I assume the average consumer...

WHY NOT? Why not try to get them to hear some QUALITY HIPHOP?

As for the Main Corporation "Blacklists", THE INTERNET gets around all that....

You can't tell me that if Antoine Dodd can get PAID off of the Internet, that these UNDERGROUND GREATS can't too...
DJ Alkemy 10:02 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Also, what no one has mentioned, is that making "organic" hip hop takes more time, effort and talent. The industry's not that patient.


And the corporations control what the masses are hearing. You play "stupid hoe, stupid hoe" a million times on the radio and guess what, people start to think "oh, thats catchy".

Fast food music for a generation that has low attention spans.

You think the industry are gonna push an album about empowerment of people?...Hell no. They let that happen with Public Enemy etc. They wont make the same mistake again!.

If you want any music with any semblance of morality then you gonna serach for it these days.
DJTorchmusic 10:02 PM - 15 April, 2013
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It's so funny to see people who have made NO and displayed no street cred hits talk shit about Artists that have Platinum Records. Funny...

That's like a homeless crack head talking smack about people who are better off than him.



Yet you're here talking shit about Cut Chemist, who is a better Dj than you, more successful than you, is known more than you and *gasp* has more "followers" than you.

LOL


Dude,

If you read carefully, which you didn't, you would realize I didn't talk shit about Cut Chemist. I actually complemented his DJ skills. What I did say Is I strongly disagreed and disliked his COMMENTS about mainstream Hip Hop.

Stop trying to "BBend shit" dude, this ain't the elections.
DJ Alkemy 10:02 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The industry has changed. Why would you be trying to push material like those I listed to the audience that are buying mp3's these days. These independent record companies are realising that they dont need big publishing deals with majors, they dont need expensive videos. The internet is their friend. They can do a lot of things from their office in their house LOL.

And if you aint researched into the music business about the main corporations blacklists, playlists, power etc then why would I even bother to try and explain.


In one breath, you're saying why push THIS QUALITY HIPHOP to those who are buying MP3's, I assume the average consumer...

WHY NOT? Why not try to get them to hear some QUALITY HIPHOP?

As for the Main Corporation "Blacklists", THE INTERNET gets around all that....

You can't tell me that if Antoine Dodd can get PAID off of the Internet, that these UNDERGROUND GREATS can't too...


Yeah, but the TV, radio etc is still the main source of exploitation. Always will be.
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:03 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Man... this thread exploded!

First, Thank You AKIEM. I thought I was in the twilight zone:
Quote:
Barbara Striesand = Classic Rock = LMFAO WTF?

Classic Rock w/o Jimi Hendrix? AYFKM?


Second:
Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.


Third:
The ONLY Eminem album I would consider 'decent' is The Slim Shady LP. But pleeeaaaassse stop putting him in the same sentence as Rakim, Nas, LL, etc... One or two good songs does not make you a legend. Everything since that has been angry yelling bs that hurst to listen to.



BLASPHOMEY, EM MURDERED JAY ON HIS CLASSIC ALBUM, MURDERED 50 ON HIS CLASSIC, MURDERED JA AND BENZINO IN BATTLES HE EARNED HIS PLACE!!
The Notourious B.K.S. 10:04 PM - 15 April, 2013
man... it has taken me all day to read this thread... so far here is my take on "Master Of The Mix"

1.) I feel like we're all over reacting, this show is made for people who have the attention span of a pair of my Tim's. Of course DJ's are watching, but is anyone else really... My opinion, anytime you have something that is produced for the masses, it's going to be watered down. Just because it's on TV, doesn't make it good. Personally, I did not watch the show and as far as I'm concerned, VH-1 is as corny as it gets, no way they have their ear on the pulse of DJ's, if you think so, I suggest you watch a few of their other offerings: "Love & Hip Hop"; "Basketball Wives"; "Flavor of Anything" etc. They are the equivalent of a vending machine when it comes to quality..

2.) Everybody's opinion of what is "DOPE" hip hop seems to vary, seems logic to assume that maybe we all have a preference and we all are fans one way or another... Good is good, stop worrying about who's not making it, (good music), and start getting with people who are making some. Its not a question of major label vs indie label, hands down, its all a business first, it just so happens the business that they are in is not making good music, but just selling lots of it. Hate to say it, but good music sells... But stupid music sells STUPID... I guess Forrest had it right... stupid is as stupid does because somebody is making a shit load of money off the stupid people.
DJ Alkemy 10:04 PM - 15 April, 2013
And that Antoide Dodd dude is EXACTLY the type of shit they want you buying. Thats my point!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:04 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Do some research as to why certain artists are getting blacklisted. Why garbage like Rick Ross and Lil Wayne are getting all the play. Why indie labels are doing it for themselves. Why nearly every company, radio station in the world is owned by the same big corporations. Then come back to me.


I know ALL ABOUT the Big Corporations "Monopoly" if you will...

We only have ONE BLACK RADIO STATION for "R&B" now, remember?

There is no excuse for not being put of if people think you're GREAT.

You don't NEED a Record company.

If you're HOT on the NET, you will eventually get picked up...

It's been 15+ years, and no Classic HipHop albums.
Dj Shamann 10:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Dude,

If you read carefully, which you didn't, you would realize I didn't talk shit about Cut Chemist. I actually complemented his DJ skills. What I did say Is I strongly disagreed and disliked his COMMENTS about mainstream Hip Hop.

Stop trying to "BBend shit" dude, this ain't the elections.



No, the very first post on the subject you came in on some "who the fuck is this guy" shit because you simply didn't know.

Stop trying to bend shit dude.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:06 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.


That's some real B*tchmade sh*t to really be checkin' social media links on some stalker *ish...

Real corny.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:07 PM - 15 April, 2013
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The ONLY Eminem album I would consider 'decent' is The Slim Shady LP. But pleeeaaaassse stop putting him in the same sentence as Rakim, Nas, LL, etc...


Nah, Em was solid through 8 Mile....and YES, Lyrically, he could run with Rakim, LL, Kane, etc..etc.
AKIEM 10:07 PM - 15 April, 2013
I will tell you one thing - that Cut Chemist piece was wack as hell, super vague - no one could decipher what he was talking about and had to try and guess what he was trying to say. when he said "stripper music" he was grasping for some shit to say - he didnt really mean it literally (even if it literally mad a little sense)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:08 PM - 15 April, 2013
Well, not Rakim, but LL, Kane, BIG...
AKIEM 10:08 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.


That's some real B*tchmade sh*t to really be checkin' social media links on some stalker *ish...

Real corny.


hmmm - noted
The Notourious B.K.S. 10:08 PM - 15 April, 2013
lets not forget, Em really kind of ghost wrote ALOT of Dre's Chronic 2001
DJ Alkemy 10:10 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Do some research as to why certain artists are getting blacklisted. Why garbage like Rick Ross and Lil Wayne are getting all the play. Why indie labels are doing it for themselves. Why nearly every company, radio station in the world is owned by the same big corporations. Then come back to me.


I know ALL ABOUT the Big Corporations "Monopoly" if you will...

We only have ONE BLACK RADIO STATION for "R&B" now, remember?

There is no excuse for not being put of if people think you're GREAT.

You don't NEED a Record company.

If you're HOT on the NET, you will eventually get picked up...

It's been 15+ years, and no Classic HipHop albums.


No classic Hip-Hop albums for someone who aint even looking for them LOL

And if your hot on the net you will eventually get picked up?...by who?.

They (the big corporations and record companies) aint looking to pick an artsist talking about world issues, poverty, gun control, the chase for the dollar etc to promote and forge a career out of. Hell no!. They are just gonna push the next ignorant, bullshit, bubblegum track to a nation that are getting dumber by the decade.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:10 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah, but the TV, radio etc is still the main source of exploitation. Always will be.


Who REALLY watches TV anymore? Everyone is getting info via the web.
DJ DisGrace 10:11 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.


That's some real B*tchmade sh*t to really be checkin' social media links on some stalker *ish...

Real corny.

Well dude uses his social media to try and pull rank.

Second, he removed his avatar, to I check his profile to see if it was the same dude. After he taunted us to listen to some of his stuff last week, it's pretty obvious that the list of 10 social media links is now missing from his profile.

If it's in your face, it can't be stalking
DJ Alkemy 10:11 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Yeah, but the TV, radio etc is still the main source of exploitation. Always will be.


Who REALLY watches TV anymore? Everyone is getting info via the web.


American Idol, Americas Got Talent, Britains Got Talent, X-Factor...the list goes on. People still watch TV. They still get their main source of info from controlled media. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:13 PM - 15 April, 2013
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No classic Hip-Hop albums for someone who aint even looking for them LOL


So you don't agree with Bezzle's Most Influential List terminating at around 2001?


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They (the big corporations and record companies) aint looking to pick an artsist talking about world issues, poverty, gun control, the chase for the dollar etc to promote and forge a career out of. Hell no!. They are just gonna push the next ignorant, bullshit, bubblegum track to a nation that are getting dumber by the decade.


So you're basically saying that ALL THESE HIPHOP GREATS are just never gonna make it "BIG"....
DJ DisGrace 10:13 PM - 15 April, 2013
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you do
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When I first heard her, on American Idol, I just KNEW she was gonna win
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:15 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Congrats Alkemy, by putting Torch on blast he removed all of his social media links from his profile.




That's some real B*tchmade sh*t to really be checkin' social media links on some stalker *ish...



Real corny.


Well dude uses his social media to try and pull rank.



Second, he removed his avatar, to I check his profile to see if it was the same dude. After he taunted us to listen to some of his stuff last week, it's pretty obvious that the list of 10 social media links is now missing from his profile.

If it's in your face, it can't be stalking


Hmmm...ok.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:16 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Who REALLY watches TV anymore?


you do

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When I first heard her, on American Idol, I just KNEW she was gonna win


And THAT was 9 years ago....2004...

Gee, how the Internet has grown...
DJTorchmusic 10:17 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Dude,

If you read carefully, which you didn't, you would realize I didn't talk shit about Cut Chemist. I actually complemented his DJ skills. What I did say Is I strongly disagreed and disliked his COMMENTS about mainstream Hip Hop.

Stop trying to "BBend shit" dude, this ain't the elections.



No, the very first post on the subject you came in on some "who the fuck is this guy" shit because you simply didn't know.

Stop trying to bend shit dude.


You need a deeper thought process? "Who the "F** is this guy" is exactly what I meant? It mean's "who the f*** is this guy" to disrespect and stereo type mainstream hip hop. It also meant , "I never really heard of this guy". "Who da fuck is this guy"?

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I will tell you one thing - that Cut Chemist piece was wack as hell, super vague - no one could decipher what he was talking about and had to try and guess what he was trying to say. when he said "stripper music" he was grasping for some shit to say - he didnt really mean it literally (even if it literally mad a little sense)


100% on the cut chemist piece.

I do see your point about "grasping". I totally see that. But, he said it. Even worse, he tried to make a third person (someone) phrase. I'm not going on TV expressing someone else's ideals unless I agree with them or said it myself.
AKIEM 10:17 PM - 15 April, 2013
Radio Rotation is not about MCing. period.

There were some great MCs to make it to that major level - just because there arnt as many now does not mean there are less great MCs out there.

The industry changed
DJ Alkemy 10:17 PM - 15 April, 2013
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No classic Hip-Hop albums for someone who aint even looking for them LOL


So you don't agree with Bezzle's Most Influential List terminating at around 2001?


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They (the big corporations and record companies) aint looking to pick an artsist talking about world issues, poverty, gun control, the chase for the dollar etc to promote and forge a career out of. Hell no!. They are just gonna push the next ignorant, bullshit, bubblegum track to a nation that are getting dumber by the decade.


So you're basically saying that ALL THESE HIPHOP GREATS are just never gonna make it "BIG"....


Bezzle & wikipedia!...nuff said.

And until there is a change in what avenues music with a soul is available to us, no, I dont think they will make it BIG. Maybe there is no real need to these days. People who really want to make a change with their music aint gonna want to tow the line. Most of the big stars are puppets and they always will be.
DJ DisGrace 10:21 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Who REALLY watches TV anymore?


you do

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When I first heard her, on American Idol, I just KNEW she was gonna win


And THAT was 9 years ago....2004...

Hmm... guess you're right, that was a while ago.

I wouldn't know when that was anyway. I never gave credit to any "contest" winners from these tv shows. It's like a washed out version of the movie CB4. Fabricating music stars.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:22 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Wow now this is interesting

Johnny heres a list of the most influencial albums....notice the dates included

en.m.wikipedia.org


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Bezzle & wikipedia!...nuff said.


I know, but this time it works in my favor...
DJ Alkemy 10:23 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Wow now this is interesting

Johnny heres a list of the most influencial albums....notice the dates included

en.m.wikipedia.org


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Bezzle & wikipedia!...nuff said.


I know, but this time it works in my favor...


Not really. You know Wikipedia right?...you know how much weight ANYTHING from that site holds? 000000

Its basically saying that no Hip-Hop album of note came out after 2001.

Absolute shit.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:26 PM - 15 April, 2013
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you do



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And THAT was 9 years ago....2004...
Hmm... guess you're right, that was a while ago.



I wouldn't know when that was anyway. I never gave credit to any "contest" winners from these tv shows. It's like a washed out version of the movie CB4. Fabricating music stars.


I 100% AGREE TOO....

Until I happened to hear her voice, and was like, YO, she's better than EVERYBODY that's out in R & B today - ie. Mary J, Beyonce, etc..etc...

To me, they were all frauds...

I've had this exact same argument concerning R&B Diva's too...

Back in the say, Stephanie Mills, Chaka, Whitney, Gladys Knight, Loletta Halloway, all just would step on stage and you KNEW it was quality...

The MANUFACTURING PHASE started with En Vogue, BUT they could actually sing...

Once they passed Mary J off as the Queen of R&B, I was through...

She had a certain range where she sounded DECENT, but could never compare to the greats...
Dj Shamann 10:29 PM - 15 April, 2013
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You need a deeper thought process? "Who the "F** is this guy" is exactly what I meant? It mean's "who the f*** is this guy" to disrespect and stereo type mainstream hip hop. It also meant , "I never really heard of this guy". "Who da fuck is this guy"?


Stop trying to bend shit dude.
DJTorchmusic 10:36 PM - 15 April, 2013
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You need a deeper thought process? "Who the "F** is this guy" is exactly what I meant? It mean's "who the f*** is this guy" to disrespect and stereo type mainstream hip hop. It also meant , "I never really heard of this guy". "Who da fuck is this guy"?


Stop trying to bend shit dude.


next..
DJTorchmusic 10:41 PM - 15 April, 2013
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You need a deeper thought process? "Who the "F** is this guy" is exactly what I meant? It mean's "who the f*** is this guy" to disrespect and stereo type mainstream hip hop. It also meant , "I never really heard of this guy". "Who da fuck is this guy"?


Stop trying to bend shit dude.


You're just gonna make it what you want to be. If anyone's twisting shit, it's you and if you read instead of talk sh** you would notice that I gave dude props a few times for being a DJ and even stated that I like his music.

So, if your gonna talk sh** then at least be accurate with it.
DJTorchmusic 10:45 PM - 15 April, 2013
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you do



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And THAT was 9 years ago....2004...
Hmm... guess you're right, that was a while ago.



I wouldn't know when that was anyway. I never gave credit to any "contest" winners from these tv shows. It's like a washed out version of the movie CB4. Fabricating music stars.


I 100% AGREE TOO....

Until I happened to hear her voice, and was like, YO, she's better than EVERYBODY that's out in R & B today - ie. Mary J, Beyonce, etc..etc...

To me, they were all frauds...

I've had this exact same argument concerning R&B Diva's too...

Back in the say, Stephanie Mills, Chaka, Whitney, Gladys Knight, Loletta Halloway, all just would step on stage and you KNEW it was quality...

The MANUFACTURING PHASE started with En Vogue, BUT they could actually sing...

Once they passed Mary J off as the Queen of R&B, I was through...

She had a certain range where she sounded DECENT, but could never compare to the greats...


I could not agree more. I love Mary J, but to call her the QUEEN of R&B was a stretch. She did touch a lot of hearts of young ladies who went through similar circumstances as she did, but that does not crown make one a Queen of R&B.
DJTorchmusic 11:00 PM - 15 April, 2013
That's what bothers me about the media. They "Queen" this and "Icon" that. When you say stuff like that, it should be UNDISPUTED. Otherwise those important words just become words.

Michael Jackson - Pop Icon (you can't argue that)
Michel Jordan - Basketball Icon (you can't argue that)
The Band Genesis - Rock Icons (you can't argue that)
Rolling Stones Rock Icons (you can't argue that).
2Pac - Hip Hop Icon (you can't argue that)

you may like or dislike their music, but they are clearly "Icons".
AKIEM 11:01 PM - 15 April, 2013
If Rakim came today freshly signed to Zakia Records you think he would have got a piece on TMZ?

All the popular rappers and shit nowadays is a facade facsimile sucking of HipHop for legitimacy like Rick Ross stealing his persona from Freeway Ricky Ross

Its POP music - they dont let the best MCs up there - only the marketable undercover dudes.
AKIEM 11:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
Mary J was dubbed by the source the queen of hip-hop r&b or whatever
(which was bs when they put here on the cover)
Vekked 11:05 PM - 15 April, 2013
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lol @ QBERT not being impressive... da fuq?


I said they ALL sounded the same....

It's always scratch the "Ahhhh" over a beat....

Q-Bert only relatively recently stood apart from the rest with his drumming....


What are you even saying...? Q-bert only relatively recently stood apart? Because of his drumming? As opposed to his classic mixtapes, album/movie, the scratch band, the techniques he innovated, etc? What's going on here man...
 6 11:07 PM - 15 April, 2013
" 2Pac - Hip Hop Icon (you can't argue that)"

well....... I don't know about that.

nm
Mike_P 11:10 PM - 15 April, 2013
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" 2Pac - Rap Icon (you can't argue that)"

fixed
DJTorchmusic 11:11 PM - 15 April, 2013
I would also like to remind everyone that NONE of these "new" rappers you don't like OWN the media or any part of it. You can blame them all you want. But, it's "Business Executives" that make the call on what the public is exposed to.

VH1
MTV
BET
HBO
SHO
KMEL
WILD whoever
YOUTUBE

These stations could easily change what gets out there (at a price). They could easily say, "let's just release only "uplifting rap" or they could say, "Let's focus on promoting R&B".

But they Don't!

Everyone knows that mainstream music is a "formula". What sells, no matter what, gets played. You can't blame the Artists for that.
DJ Alkemy 11:12 PM - 15 April, 2013
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If Rakim came today freshly signed to Zakia Records you think he would have got a piece on TMZ?

All the popular rappers and shit nowadays is a facade facsimile sucking of HipHop for legitimacy like Rick Ross stealing his persona from Freeway Ricky Ross

Its POP music - they dont let the best MCs up there - only the marketable undercover dudes.


Im just sick of this swag, style over substance BS that got young kids aiming for an unrealistic lifestyle. The likes of Rick Ross, Lil Wayne etc are not only detrimental to Hip-Hop culture but to a whole generation of young people. Its getting really out of hand. The Emmet Till fiasco was disgusting. Your getting Rick Ross being shot at for his lies and deceit too. I just hate this whole "get rich or die trying" bullshit. Lying to a generation at the cost of your own people...all for the money. F***ing sickens me
Dj Shamann 11:13 PM - 15 April, 2013
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You're just gonna make it what you want to be. If anyone's twisting shit, it's you and if you read instead of talk sh** you would notice that I gave dude props a few times for being a DJ and even stated that I like his music.

So, if your gonna talk sh** then at least be accurate with it.


SMH are you going to keep this shit going?

I can't believe I'm having this conversation, like you really got that mad about mainstream Hip Hop and actually listed Vanilla Ice for credibility.
DJTorchmusic 11:13 PM - 15 April, 2013
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" 2Pac - Hip Hop Icon (you can't argue that)"

well....... I don't know about that.

nm


He is an Icon. Clearly. Maybe not to you and that's your choice.
DJ Alkemy 11:14 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Everyone knows that mainstream music is a "formula". What sells, no matter what, gets played. You can't blame the Artists for that.


What!!!

Thats exactly who I blame. They have the power to say no.

You like the money, fine, go ahead and sell your soul. Just dont get butt hurt when I call your ignorant garbage music out for what it is.

Oh, its ok, your "fans" are the ones getting butt hurt.

Dumb.
 6 11:15 PM - 15 April, 2013
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" 2Pac - Hip Hop Icon (you can't argue that)"

well....... I don't know about that.

nm


He is an Icon. Clearly. Maybe not to you and that's your choice.

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" 2Pac - Rap Icon (you can't argue that)"

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AKIEM 11:19 PM - 15 April, 2013
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I would also like to remind everyone that NONE of these "new" rappers you don't like OWN the media or any part of it. You can blame them all you want. But, it's "Business Executives" that make the call on what the public is exposed to.

VH1
MTV
BET
HBO
SHO
KMEL
WILD whoever
YOUTUBE

These stations could easily change what gets out there (at a price). They could easily say, "let's just release only "uplifting rap" or they could say, "Let's focus on promoting R&B".

But they Don't!

Everyone knows that mainstream music is a "formula". What sells, no matter what, gets played. You can't blame the Artists for that.


and you cant blame a hoe for hoeing either
DJTorchmusic 11:20 PM - 15 April, 2013
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If Rakim came today freshly signed to Zakia Records you think he would have got a piece on TMZ?

All the popular rappers and shit nowadays is a facade facsimile sucking of HipHop for legitimacy like Rick Ross stealing his persona from Freeway Ricky Ross

Its POP music - they dont let the best MCs up there - only the marketable undercover dudes.


Im just sick of this swag, style over substance BS that got young kids aiming for an unrealistic lifestyle. The likes of Rick Ross, Lil Wayne etc are not only detrimental to Hip-Hop culture but to a whole generation of young people. Its getting really out of hand. The Emmet Till fiasco was disgusting. Your getting Rick Ross being shot at for his lies and deceit too. I just hate this whole "get rich or die trying" bullshit. Lying to a generation at the cost of your own people...all for the money. F***ing sickens me


I'm glad we agree on that point. But, you're showing so much disdain for Artists/Rappers that have little power when it comes to getting their music heard. Instead of saying "LIL Wayne is trash" maybe your should say something like "The media's trash" for playing LIL Wayne".

You can like or dislike someone's music. But, it's the media that "puts it out there". I have not seen one person talk smack about the media.
DJ Alkemy 11:24 PM - 15 April, 2013
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If Rakim came today freshly signed to Zakia Records you think he would have got a piece on TMZ?

All the popular rappers and shit nowadays is a facade facsimile sucking of HipHop for legitimacy like Rick Ross stealing his persona from Freeway Ricky Ross

Its POP music - they dont let the best MCs up there - only the marketable undercover dudes.


Im just sick of this swag, style over substance BS that got young kids aiming for an unrealistic lifestyle. The likes of Rick Ross, Lil Wayne etc are not only detrimental to Hip-Hop culture but to a whole generation of young people. Its getting really out of hand. The Emmet Till fiasco was disgusting. Your getting Rick Ross being shot at for his lies and deceit too. I just hate this whole "get rich or die trying" bullshit. Lying to a generation at the cost of your own people...all for the money. F***ing sickens me


I'm glad we agree on that point. But, you're showing so much disdain for Artists/Rappers that have little power when it comes to getting their music heard. Instead of saying "LIL Wayne is trash" maybe your should say something like "The media's trash" for playing LIL Wayne".

You can like or dislike someone's music. But, it's the media that "puts it out there". I have not seen one person talk smack about the media.


I have already said that the media is at fault too. But I will never respect Lil Wayne. A person who sells out his own people with every derogatory comment, every track poking fun at one of the worse hate crimes in Southern History, everytime some young kid hears his lyrics and sets out on the road to a prison cell or a gang initiation. F*** him.

And once again. F*** you. I shouldnt even be conversing with you. Might get called a racist again.
DJTorchmusic 11:27 PM - 15 April, 2013
Let's say these mainstream Rappers started releasing the type of hip hop you want to hear. The only advantage they would have is that the media would check it out. But, after that, its' all about the money and those cuts would end up being on a "B Side" or relegated down to being "cult hip hop".
DJ Alkemy 11:28 PM - 15 April, 2013
Torch. You have no idea on Hip-Hop. Stick to booty bouncing, brainfree, strip club music made for the ignorant or the know no better crowd. Im done conversing with you.
Dj Shamann 11:30 PM - 15 April, 2013
What's funny about Torch getting all riled up and talking about people twisting shit is he completely twisted what Cut Chemist said.
DJ Alkemy 11:32 PM - 15 April, 2013
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What's funny about Torch getting all riled up and talking about people twisting shit is he completely twisted what Cut Chemist said.


And then he twist it to make out that I dont like people of African origin!

Too funny.
DJ DisGrace 11:38 PM - 15 April, 2013
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What's funny about Torch getting all riled up and talking about people twisting shit is he completely twisted what Cut Chemist said.


And then he twist it to make out that I dont like people of African origin!

Too funny.

Don't forget his other exploits:
- gaining EDM credibility by posting a mix with Wil.I.aM and other pop artists
- using his number of twitter followers as a way to.... well I don't even know
- insisting Neo Soul is "just hip-hop with singing instead of rapping" (I call that T-Pain)

The only thing he didn't do was list Abba and Barbara Streisand as Classic Rock greats!
DJ Alkemy 11:40 PM - 15 April, 2013
Hahahaha. This thread really went off track. Im as much to blame for it as anyone. I cant not respond to dimwits. I need to learn to back out of these type of derailed threads lol
AKIEM 11:41 PM - 15 April, 2013
lol - dancing queen - lol
AKIEM 11:45 PM - 15 April, 2013
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Let's say these mainstream Rappers started releasing the type of hip hop you want to hear. The only advantage they would have is that the media would check it out. But, after that, its' all about the money and those cuts would end up being on a "B Side" or relegated down to being "cult hip hop".


wrong

This is an excuse the media, politicians, drug pushers, and other assorted people who put poisons in our diet - "oh we are just giving people what they want"

Its a fucking lie - and any DJ worth anything knows with the right system and enough time they can program ANY crowd.

Now the shit we are being feed is by design - drugs, prison, poison water food and shit - billions dollar industries - the dumber we are the more we accept that bullshit.

They dont promote intelligence - because when we wake up we dont buy that bullshit and we dont comply with the lies.


Rick Loss was a fucking CO - now he promotes shit that puts kids in jail?
DJTorchmusic 11:48 PM - 15 April, 2013


I have already said that the media is at fault too.


Media at fault too? Everything you hear is only because the media lets you. You would not know that LIL Wayne exists unless they LET you. Dude why don't you just listen to some other music? No one, except for the media, forces you to listen to anything. I don't care for Polka music. I don't complain about it or it's Artists. I just don't listen to it. Problem solved.


I will never respect Lil Wayne. A person who sells out his own people with every derogatory comment, every track poking fun at one of the worse hate crimes in Southern History, everytime some young kid hears his lyrics and sets out on the road to a prison cell or a gang initiation. F*** him.

like you really care. You're just using it as an excuse to express your anger and disdain.

once again. F*** you. I shouldnt even be conversing with you.

No you shouldn't. not in your "condition".


get called a racist again.

I'm not sure if you're racist. But, you are fo sho a psychopath. That would probably covers everything though.
DJ DisGrace 11:57 PM - 15 April, 2013
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A yes... mental illness is fair game.

What's that word you like to use?
AKIEM 11:58 PM - 15 April, 2013
DJ Alkemy 11:59 PM - 15 April, 2013
Haha. A psychopath. This guy is a trolling genius.

You gotta love someone who's idea of just ignoring a problem makes it go away.

You are the type of passionless, numb, uninspired and docile person that goes through life totally oblivious to what goes on around him.
DJ DisGrace 12:00 AM - 16 April, 2013

Man, listen to those sweet guitar licks! LOL
DJTorchmusic 12:00 AM - 16 April, 2013
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Let's say these mainstream Rappers started releasing the type of hip hop you want to hear. The only advantage they would have is that the media would check it out. But, after that, its' all about the money and those cuts would end up being on a "B Side" or relegated down to being "cult hip hop".


wrong

This is an excuse the media, politicians, drug pushers, and other assorted people who put poisons in our diet - "oh we are just giving people what they want"

Its a fucking lie - and any DJ worth anything knows with the right system and enough time they can program ANY crowd.

Now the shit we are being feed is by design - drugs, prison, poison water food and shit - billions dollar industries - the dumber we are the more we accept that bullshit.

They dont promote intelligence - because when we wake up we dont buy that bullshit and we dont comply with the lies.


Rick Loss was a fucking CO - now he promotes shit that puts kids in jail?


I don't get your entry. You say I'm wrong , but then say the media is "being naive". Which they are.

The media likes money. Mainstream Rap makes the most money. End of story. A meadia mogul can snap his fingers and have LIL Wayne gone from the charts in 20 markets alone. Another snap and a phone call to a friend 100 more Major Markets. No Rapper has nearly any of that power.

Rick ross can only put kids in Jail if the MEDIA LETS HIM.
DJTorchmusic 12:07 AM - 16 April, 2013
This is sickening. Because you people know it's the media who "runs things". But, you continue to disrespect most mainstream rappers. And, you keep doing, it. Repeating stuff you have already said in an angry and disrespectful way. The you wanna act like you really care about African Americans all in the while you continue to disrespect us. WTF? We got your freakin point so move on!

Yet, I have not seen one person bring up a name of a Media Mogul who OK's the release of this music. NOT ONE! Whether you're trying to or not, your giving the media "A PASS".
DJ DisGrace 12:10 AM - 16 April, 2013
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Yet, I have not seen one person bring up a name of a Media Mogul who OK's the release of this music. NOT ONE! Whether you're trying to or not, your giving the media "A PASS

Drop the delusional conspiracy theatrics with "the media". It's about money. If one so-called mogul passes on it, the next one will sell it. It comes down to the artists producing the garbage, and the willingness of people to buy it.
DJTorchmusic 12:12 AM - 16 April, 2013
Where is the conversation of "Blah BLah at MTV/VHI/BET put LIl Wayne on again".

or

BLAH BLAH at "Bla company" Just let 300 of their radio stations play "stripper music"

or BLA BLA at Apple Is letting people buy "Lil Wayne's "bla bla beat".
DJTorchmusic 12:16 AM - 16 April, 2013
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Yet, I have not seen one person bring up a name of a Media Mogul who OK's the release of this music. NOT ONE! Whether you're trying to or not, your giving the media "A PASS

Drop the delusional conspiracy theatrics with "the media". It's about money. If one so-called mogul passes on it, the next one will sell it. It comes down to the artists producing the garbage, and the willingness of people to buy it.


No one can buy what they don't hear. Only the media has that power.

Again, you're a trip. Record sales are a success by advertisement and repeated plays. YOU KNOW THAT. Media Moguls make the call on what gets played. Not the Rappers.

you guys continue to disrespect black artists but say nothing about those who actually "run the game".
DJTorchmusic 12:18 AM - 16 April, 2013
You guys are just arguing for the sake of Drama. I'm out.
DJTorchmusic 12:18 AM - 16 April, 2013
stopped tracking.
AKIEM 12:19 AM - 16 April, 2013
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Let's say these mainstream Rappers started releasing the type of hip hop you want to hear. The only advantage they would have is that the media would check it out. But, after that, its' all about the money and those cuts would end up being on a "B Side" or relegated down to being "cult hip hop".


wrong

This is an excuse the media, politicians, drug pushers, and other assorted people who put poisons in our diet - "oh we are just giving people what they want"

Its a fucking lie - and any DJ worth anything knows with the right system and enough time they can program ANY crowd.

Now the shit we are being feed is by design - drugs, prison, poison water food and shit - billions dollar industries - the dumber we are the more we accept that bullshit.

They dont promote intelligence - because when we wake up we dont buy that bullshit and we dont comply with the lies.


Rick Loss was a fucking CO - now he promotes shit that puts kids in jail?


I don't get your entry. You say I'm wrong , but then say the media is "being naive". Which they are.

The media likes money. Mainstream Rap makes the most money. End of story. A meadia mogul can snap his fingers and have LIL Wayne gone from the charts in 20 markets alone. Another snap and a phone call to a friend 100 more Major Markets. No Rapper has nearly any of that power.

Rick ross can only put kids in Jail if the MEDIA LETS HIM.


no - Rick Ross promotes a fake image of a phony lifestyle that causes kids to make a dumb choice. The media promotes that shit, the labels promote that shit, the prison industrial complex profits from it. The drug cartels and wall street where the drug money is invested profits from it. The legal system and police get new cars, guns and a pension. The union votes for the politician. The politician buys bombs and sends us to war to protect the drug game.

Fuck Ross, Wayne, Trinada James or whoever else is outright promoting that bullshit. And yes that includes whatever media mogul corporate dude and whatever other devils are pushing it. Do I know every devils name making these decisions? no I dont. I dont need to.
DJ DisGrace 12:21 AM - 16 April, 2013
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you guys continue to disrespect black artists but say nothing about those who actually "run the game".

I'll disrespect Eminem all day. Please stop implying this is racially motivated.

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No one can buy what they don't hear. Only the media has that power.

"The Media" is not one person conglomerate conspiring to destroy hip-hop. They don't direct the course of music progression, they take advantage of and amplify trends that occur on their own because of what people want to hear and which artists they support.
DJ Alkemy 12:22 AM - 16 April, 2013
Whats sickening is that you expect me to respect someone who makes jokes about Emmet Till, comparing his face to a womans pussy. Even more sickening is how butt hurt you are getting about it. Are you freaking retarded?.

And once again, fuck you for bringing race and color into it again like you have any right to speak for a whole race.

You really are a jackass of the highest order
AKIEM 12:23 AM - 16 April, 2013
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Yet, I have not seen one person bring up a name of a Media Mogul who OK's the release of this music. NOT ONE! Whether you're trying to or not, your giving the media "A PASS

Drop the delusional conspiracy theatrics with "the media". It's about money. If one so-called mogul passes on it, the next one will sell it. It comes down to the artists producing the garbage, and the willingness of people to buy it.


No one can buy what they don't hear. Only the media has that power.

Again, you're a trip. Record sales are a success by advertisement and repeated plays. YOU KNOW THAT. Media Moguls make the call on what gets played. Not the Rappers.

you guys continue to disrespect black artists but say nothing about those who actually "run the game".



Those black artist should be a fucking shamed of themselves for 'doing the bidding' of the media conglomerates pushing this bullshit on us.
AKIEM 12:27 AM - 16 April, 2013
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you guys continue to disrespect black artists but say nothing about those who actually "run the game".

I'll disrespect Eminem all day. Please stop implying this is racially motivated.

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No one can buy what they don't hear. Only the media has that power.

"The Media" is not one person conglomerate conspiring to destroy hip-hop. They don't direct the course of music progression, they take advantage of and amplify trends that occur on their own because of what people want to hear and which artists they support.


Plenty of media pretend to have a 'social agenda' like Oprah or some shit. The media conglomerates promote trends which are beneficial to their bottom line. They make money off our ignorance so they promote ignorance.
DJ Alkemy 12:28 AM - 16 April, 2013
It seems like its working too Akiem. SMDH.
AKIEM 12:40 AM - 16 April, 2013
yup - man this thread delivers
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:43 AM - 16 April, 2013
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yup - man this thread delivers

this is easily the best thread that hasnt revolved around me in years
DJ Alkemy 12:45 AM - 16 April, 2013
Just noticed you are part of the Micranots. Pretty sure I have an LP by you. Obelisk Movements. You on Rhymesayers now?
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:47 AM - 16 April, 2013
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Just noticed you are part of the Micranots. Pretty sure I have an LP by you. Obelisk Movements. You on Rhymesayers now?

not me ...lol ;)
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:01 AM - 16 April, 2013
since we were talkin bout old school and hot boys

Watchwww.youtube.com

one of my faaaave clips, i laugh soooo hard at this!!!!
DJ Alkemy 1:03 AM - 16 April, 2013
I just noticed that Chris Karns is on the show. DJ Vajra. Damn. How did he do?
Mr. Goodkat 1:41 AM - 16 April, 2013
typical dmc guy, too much turntablism.
Mr. Goodkat 1:44 AM - 16 April, 2013
you can watch episodes on vh1
DJ Alkemy 1:53 AM - 16 April, 2013
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typical dmc guy, too much turntablism.


Really?. I seen him live once, done a funk set and it was real nice. Im in the UK so it has the ip lock when I try to watch it.
Mr. Goodkat 1:57 AM - 16 April, 2013
ah, well, its edited, as bezzle will tell us soon, so who knows, but it looked very technical compared to the rest of the competitors(which makes sense, since he is a dmc champ).

basically, he was explaining quantum physics to 3rd graders.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:01 AM - 16 April, 2013
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ah, well, its edited, as bezzle will tell us soon, so who knows, but it looked very technical compared to the rest of the competitors(which makes sense, since he is a dmc champ).

basically, he was explaining quantum physics to 3rd graders.

true story
DJ Pete Magma 3:54 AM - 16 April, 2013
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This thread got real boring real fast.


Yeah. Didn't wanna turn this into another boring pissing match. He talks more than anything else. Back on track.

Worst part is Torch started all this and now he disappeared...

Anyway, it appears that Smirnoff hired Cut Chemist as a spokesman, and then proceeded to allow him to knock the current state of hip hop while they simultaneously try to promote a dj "contest" centered primarily on hip-hop dj'ing abilities.


LMFAO....That is so true. First off, Cut Chemist is a good DJ and he can cut but a hip hop icon? No way. He's well known don't get me wrong, but definitely not icon status. Lil' Wayne is a hard argument. OLD Wayne was the TRUTH, new Wayne is garbage. That being said, the suits controlling his career make it that way, not something the artist is directly to blame for. I would agree with Cut Chemist that the new hip hop is trash compared to the old school stuff, but again, that's the people controlling the music industry. They need to make money and those records are selling. The real argument lies in where the hell are people's ears these days? You can't talk to me and tell me that Tyga is a real rapper because that dude would have been cracked in a battle in the 90's. That being said, there are talented dudes out there, especially in the underground scene. I don't spin hip hop but I love listening to it and being a native of New York, I like to comment on these types of threads. Kendrick Lamar is super talented, dude can flow his ass off. Big Sean and the likes of Nicki Minaj are main stream trash and should be seen as such, but nonetheless you need to give credit where there are fans, and they definitely have fans. Old school "true" hip hop and new school radio bullshit are incomparable, it's apples to oranges. The good news is that Nas still had the #1 Album when it was released so there is HOPE! LOL. As far as the Classic Rock discussion, I agree with DJ DIsgrace. Barbara Streisand is most definitely NOT classic rock and Pat Benatar is arguable. Torch is right in what he is saying as well though, overall, blame the media moguls pulling the artists strings, not the artists. We are all like puppets once we go mainstream, aside from Eminem, but look how much drama he was in. I mean, end of the day, you can't buck the guys signing your checks. I just lived this crap with VH1 and I promise you, you can't control everything that happens in this corrupt ass industry; you just have to write it off as bullshit and move on.
DJ Pete Magma 4:11 AM - 16 April, 2013
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Let's say these mainstream Rappers started releasing the type of hip hop you want to hear. The only advantage they would have is that the media would check it out. But, after that, its' all about the money and those cuts would end up being on a "B Side" or relegated down to being "cult hip hop".


wrong

This is an excuse the media, politicians, drug pushers, and other assorted people who put poisons in our diet - "oh we are just giving people what they want"

Its a fucking lie - and any DJ worth anything knows with the right system and enough time they can program ANY crowd.

Now the shit we are being feed is by design - drugs, prison, poison water food and shit - billions dollar industries - the dumber we are the more we accept that bullshit.

They dont promote intelligence - because when we wake up we dont buy that bullshit and we dont comply with the lies.


Rick Loss was a fucking CO - now he promotes shit that puts kids in jail?


I don't get your entry. You say I'm wrong , but then say the media is "being naive". Which they are.

The media likes money. Mainstream Rap makes the most money. End of story. A meadia mogul can snap his fingers and have LIL Wayne gone from the charts in 20 markets alone. Another snap and a phone call to a friend 100 more Major Markets. No Rapper has nearly any of that power.

Rick ross can only put kids in Jail if the MEDIA LETS HIM.


no - Rick Ross promotes a fake image of a phony lifestyle that causes kids to make a dumb choice. The media promotes that shit, the labels promote that shit, the prison industrial complex profits from it. The drug cartels and wall street where the drug money is invested profits from it. The legal system and police get new cars, guns and a pension. The union votes for the politician. The politician buys bombs and sends us to war to protect the drug game.

Fuck Ross, Wayne, Trinada James or whoever else is outright promoting that bullshit. And yes that includes whatever media mogul corporate dude and whatever other devils are pushing it. Do I know every devils name making these decisions? no I dont. I dont need to.


Couldn't agree more. Ross is a sham. He has a stolen name, he was a cop and promotes gangster shit, he is just a fraud 100%. Dude writes shit that is blasphemic, disrespects women, promotes ignorance and gives children the wrong message. All in all he is an irresponsible role model and I would never let me kids listen to the shit he spews. It's the media's fault for releasing that crap. You have people telling kids to be good and not do drugs and drink alcohol and then you have these morons undoing that by promoting that bullshit and making it look cool to young kids. Very good message Mr. Ross, spike a woman's drink and then take her home she won't even know. Good message to send the youth. He's an ignoramus and doesn't deserve nor know how to handle fame. He's a gutter rat that got lucky, period. Is he a talented rapper, yes I guess his flow is pretty good, but his lyrical content is trash. He says virtually the same shit in every song in a different order. Same with Meek Mill and the rest of the idiots on MMG aside from Wale. He is probably the only legitimate "artist" on that roster. People, remember what an "artist" is. Daft Punk said it best. "EDM is in it's comfort zone and it hasn't moved an inch. That's not what being an artist is about." Same applies to hip hop. No one has changed the game, no one has had the balls to do something different in ANY musical genre for quite some time and for that reason the industry stays stagnant, boring and true talent can't emerge. The ONLY way to stop this is to stop buying records, stop spinning this crap music and to FORCE them to change the industry. Watch Daft Punk release there new material, which I've already listened to a some of their new unreleased stuff and turn the industry upside down. Then you will have all these morons trying to recreate the stuff they come out with and that will trend for a while. The problem lies in the studios. I have worked at some of the most elite studios in LA and they have no foresight and no creativity. Literally, and I quote, Studio Owner: "you heard that new Britney Spears featuring Will I AM?". Me: "Yes". Studio Owner: "Yea man, we need to recreate that sound. That's what's selling. We need that synth and those exact beats." Me: "That's crap music and I'm not recreating that. If you want that music go hire one of those kids that just got out of production school and is in this for the money. I create from my heart, not from the top 40 list." Ended with me leaving the studio and never returning, but that's the type of idiocy going on. No one has the wherewithal to try something innovative. They don't believe in their own talent. Half the industry is made up of trust fund babies that don't know shit about music but have daddy's credit card and go open a studio and try to "reproduce" what they hear on Power 106 with a few minor changes. TRASH.
Mr. Goodkat 4:32 AM - 16 April, 2013
why do people expect rappers to live up to their names and write rhymes that are 100% accurate? story telling is a long tradition, as long as people have been around, and is an entertainment artform(the art of storytelling). Of course if someone comes on in person, live tv, and says yeah im killing everyone, im a blood thirsty killer and i have 10 kilos in the car' then maybe i would question it, but their artistic license is telling the stories of the street/gangster culture. Many cultures have similar stories told by bands or poets. WHen you take a name, RIck ROss for example, as an artist, its seems likely that you will go in the direction of said name i.e. i named my self after one of the biggest drug dealers of all time, im going to rap about selling drugs and living that lifestyle. If your rock bands name is Morbid Death, i expect heavy lyrics about, well, death(like a horror movie). NOt love songs. If Morbid Death isn't living the Saw movie life out in their personal world, im not gonna get mad about it.

taking entertainment too verbatim is exactly what the conservatives do when they try to protest against certain music and certain lyrics(like Common's poem in the white house). It seems if you support art, then you cant pigeon hole what it is. On the other hand if you live your art as life, then things can go wrong ex. gigi allen, 2pac, keith moon etc.
djkurve 5:26 AM - 16 April, 2013
So if anyone ever cares about the original reason why I started this thread anymore, I got an update on the DJ's 3 min mixes they play on the show. Mia Moretti just hit me up on Twitter and informed me that they're all posted online & on thefuture.fm after the episode airs. That is all. lol!
DJTorchmusic 8:29 AM - 16 April, 2013
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why do people expect rappers to live up to their names and write rhymes that are 100% accurate? story telling is a long tradition, as long as people have been around, and is an entertainment artform(the art of storytelling). Of course if someone comes on in person, live tv, and says yeah im killing everyone, im a blood thirsty killer and i have 10 kilos in the car' then maybe i would question it, but their artistic license is telling the stories of the street/gangster culture. Many cultures have similar stories told by bands or poets. WHen you take a name, RIck ROss for example, as an artist, its seems likely that you will go in the direction of said name i.e. i named my self after one of the biggest drug dealers of all time, im going to rap about selling drugs and living that lifestyle. If your rock bands name is Morbid Death, i expect heavy lyrics about, well, death(like a horror movie). NOt love songs. If Morbid Death isn't living the Saw movie life out in their personal world, im not gonna get mad about it.

taking entertainment too verbatim is exactly what the conservatives do when they try to protest against certain music and certain lyrics(like Common's poem in the white house). It seems if you support art, then you cant pigeon hole what it is. On the other hand if you live your art as life, then things can go wrong ex. gigi allen, 2pac, keith moon etc.


Exactly. The term used in the Batman movie "Why so Serious"? comes to mind. If you don't like the music, just "change the channel".
DJ Alkemy 9:12 AM - 16 April, 2013
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why do people expect rappers to live up to their names and write rhymes that are 100% accurate? story telling is a long tradition, as long as people have been around, and is an entertainment artform(the art of storytelling). Of course if someone comes on in person, live tv, and says yeah im killing everyone, im a blood thirsty killer and i have 10 kilos in the car' then maybe i would question it, but their artistic license is telling the stories of the street/gangster culture. Many cultures have similar stories told by bands or poets. WHen you take a name, RIck ROss for example, as an artist, its seems likely that you will go in the direction of said name i.e. i named my self after one of the biggest drug dealers of all time, im going to rap about selling drugs and living that lifestyle. If your rock bands name is Morbid Death, i expect heavy lyrics about, well, death(like a horror movie). NOt love songs. If Morbid Death isn't living the Saw movie life out in their personal world, im not gonna get mad about it.

taking entertainment too verbatim is exactly what the conservatives do when they try to protest against certain music and certain lyrics(like Common's poem in the white house). It seems if you support art, then you cant pigeon hole what it is. On the other hand if you live your art as life, then things can go wrong ex. gigi allen, 2pac, keith moon etc.


Exactly. The term used in the Batman movie "Why so Serious"? comes to mind. If you don't like the music, just "change the channel".


Yeah. Imagine if Public Enemy thought like that. Just turn the other cheek. Imagine Bob Dylan, John Lennon etc did the same thing. Get my drift.
Logisticalstyles 12:22 PM - 16 April, 2013
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So if anyone ever cares about the original reason why I started this thread anymore, I got an update on the DJ's 3 min mixes they play on the show. Mia Moretti just hit me up on Twitter and informed me that they're all posted online & on thefuture.fm after the episode airs. That is all. lol!


Yeah, this thread got crazy derailed!
Rane, Support
Chad S. 3:33 PM - 16 April, 2013
Joshua Carl 3:52 PM - 16 April, 2013
B hen is gone.

Everyone had mediocre sets with a few sparks of coolness.


But, sadly...does any of it really matter?
Editing, Smirnoff, agenda, ect ect

It's like watching SyFy I know it's bush league production, but I still find myself watching.
But if it wasn't for DVR
Mr. Goodkat 4:13 PM - 16 April, 2013
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why do people expect rappers to live up to their names and write rhymes that are 100% accurate? story telling is a long tradition, as long as people have been around, and is an entertainment artform(the art of storytelling). Of course if someone comes on in person, live tv, and says yeah im killing everyone, im a blood thirsty killer and i have 10 kilos in the car' then maybe i would question it, but their artistic license is telling the stories of the street/gangster culture. Many cultures have similar stories told by bands or poets. WHen you take a name, RIck ROss for example, as an artist, its seems likely that you will go in the direction of said name i.e. i named my self after one of the biggest drug dealers of all time, im going to rap about selling drugs and living that lifestyle. If your rock bands name is Morbid Death, i expect heavy lyrics about, well, death(like a horror movie). NOt love songs. If Morbid Death isn't living the Saw movie life out in their personal world, im not gonna get mad about it.

taking entertainment too verbatim is exactly what the conservatives do when they try to protest against certain music and certain lyrics(like Common's poem in the white house). It seems if you support art, then you cant pigeon hole what it is. On the other hand if you live your art as life, then things can go wrong ex. gigi allen, 2pac, keith moon etc.


Exactly. The term used in the Batman movie "Why so Serious"? comes to mind. If you don't like the music, just "change the channel".


Yeah. Imagine if Public Enemy thought like that. Just turn the other cheek. Imagine Bob Dylan, John Lennon etc did the same thing. Get my drift.


i agree we need the Lennons, the PE's of the world but sometimes you gotta have the SLayers, the biz Markies, and the Nwa's and Carly Rae Jepsens of the world too.

Some people see the glorification of that life that rick ross raps about, but most of see the horror of living like that. For a long time i was anti-gangster(whatever you want to coin it) rap, because of what PM was talking about. I dont want to listen to something i dont wanna do, ala live in the ghetto and sell drugs. But then i opened my mind and said, as a dj, people wanna hear this stuff because this beat is bangin and they arent taking it serious so why should i? Its a story, like Heat is a story, like Saw is a story, its entertainment. Most people over 30, esp 35 remember when it was cool to be smart, think about how the world can be a better place, rejoice in historical achievement, but somewhere along the way intellectualism died. And while you dont have to like it, you have to see it for what it is. And what it is, is a messed up situation in the States, because its really and epidemic of stupidity.

and b hen was terrible btw.
Funkytownstopsix 4:35 PM - 16 April, 2013
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B hen is gone.

Everyone had mediocre sets with a few sparks of coolness.


But, sadly...does any of it really matter?
Editing, Smirnoff, agenda, ect ect

It's like watching SyFy I know it's bush league production, but I still find myself watching.
But if it wasn't for DVR

What he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AKIEM 4:54 PM - 16 April, 2013
I like plenty of "gangster music".

The problem is the way it is being pushed as if there was agenda to keep a single slim set of ideas out there. Hip-Hop is the most information packed form of entertainment devised yet only the most simple and ignorant sets of images are promoted.

Oh but only negative messages and stereotypes will sale = blatant lie.

Ignorance enriches the powers that be. Intellectualism did not just die - it is actively fought against by a full spectrum media propaganda programing machine.

Cut Chemist could not even stitch together an actual decent piece of information - probably because he knew he was bullshitting sitting next to a bottle of vodka


anyway fuck Rick Ross - little piece of his apology
"I recognize that as an artist I have a voice and with that, the power of influence. To the young men who listen to my music, please know that using a substance to rob a woman of her right to make a choice is not only a crime, it's wrong and I do not encourage it."

What he does know is that all his drug kingpin fantasy shit does influence impressionable minds. If his message, or fantasy depiction was only one small part of plenty of other types of messages out there - no problem. But the kingpin drug selling murder guy is the ONLY image being promoted by the major media.

In the future this 'genre' is going to be looked at in the same regard as the minstrel show.
DJ'Que 4:54 PM - 16 April, 2013
B hen shouldn't of even made it on the show. I don't even know what they seen in him. I see his wack ass all the time. that's the bullshit we have to go thru in la with these new dj's that don't even know their history all they know is this new era of music shit. when i saw 70's 80'90' i knew he was gone.
djransom 5:01 PM - 16 April, 2013
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B hen shouldn't of even made it on the show. I don't even know what they seen in him. I see his wack ass all the time. that's the bullshit we have to go thru in la with these new dj's that don't even know their history all they know is this new era of music shit. when i saw 70's 80'90' i knew he was gone.


His personality is what got him on the show. Capri hit it right on the head with his showmanship comment and that's why he stuck around.
Mr. Goodkat 5:03 PM - 16 April, 2013
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I like plenty of "gangster music".

The problem is the way it is being pushed as if there was agenda to keep a single slim set of ideas out there. Hip-Hop is the most information packed form of entertainment devised yet only the most simple and ignorant sets of images are promoted.

Oh but only negative messages and stereotypes will sale = blatant lie.

Ignorance enriches the powers that be. Intellectualism did not just die - it is actively fought against by a full spectrum media propaganda programing machine.

Cut Chemist could not even stitch together an actual decent piece of information - probably because he knew he was bullshitting sitting next to a bottle of vodka


anyway fuck Rick Ross - little piece of his apology
"I recognize that as an artist I have a voice and with that, the power of influence. To the young men who listen to my music, please know that using a substance to rob a woman of her right to make a choice is not only a crime, it's wrong and I do not encourage it."

What he does know is that all his drug kingpin fantasy shit does influence impressionable minds. If his message, or fantasy depiction was only one small part of plenty of other types of messages out there - no problem. But the kingpin drug selling murder guy is the ONLY image being promoted by the major media.

In the future this 'genre' is going to be looked at in the same regard as the minstrel show.



i dont disagree with what you are saying, but think of it this way. How did people see elvis when he popped up on the scene? Lenny Bruce got 4 years in jail for cursing in public. The beatles received death threats and boycotted for saying 'they were bigger than Jesus'. Porn mags could be sold without getting thrown in jail as well and most places only carried playboy and maybe penthouse. People thought heavy metal was satanic.

However most young people at the time thought nothing of it, it was the old folks with sandy vag syndrome. I very rarely see anyone under 25 not dig current rap or at least care about its sociological implications. things change for better or worse.
AIRX ONE 5:20 PM - 16 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

some one who thinks unlike you .... if you really do not know who he is just STOP DJING NOW!!!!
AKIEM 6:21 PM - 16 April, 2013
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i dont disagree with what you are saying, but think of it this way. How did people see elvis when he popped up on the scene? Lenny Bruce got 4 years in jail for cursing in public. The beatles received death threats and boycotted for saying 'they were bigger than Jesus'. Porn mags could be sold without getting thrown in jail as well and most places only carried playboy and maybe penthouse. People thought heavy metal was satanic.

However most young people at the time thought nothing of it, it was the old folks with sandy vag syndrome. I very rarely see anyone under 25 not dig current rap or at least care about its sociological implications. things change for better or worse.


The difference is this is Hip-Hop. The older generation actually likes and respects and understands "gangster murder music". The problem is not really with a single song, or a single rapper. The problem is that what used to be a huge spectrum of messages has been distilled down to ONLY the most ignorant and ridiculous messages then amplified by a billion. They took the 'worst' part and packaged that bullshit.

When you have a social movement like Hip-Hop which was being used to wake up the minds of the population, the way they resorted to destroy it was to take, magnifie and reward the worst and ignorant elements.

It has nothing to do with wanting to censor anyone or being to old to understand the appeal of drug kingpin fantasies or deciding to pull your pants up. 40 year old dudes now where the ones who started the pants sagging in the first place (not with skinny jeans, that shits dumb) BUT it is about understanding how the ENEMIES of Hip-Hop worked against us and give us this ignorant outcome.

The powers that be do not want our youth to embrace intelligence - intelligent youth are a threat to the power structure. There is a retooling of information control taking place. This is the reason there are never any in depth news pieces, its all short blurbs of the same information, the same story copied and pasted. The social media limits the amount of discorse so no meaningful long lasting in depth discussion can really take place. Its a proactive dumbing down - same thing with the music - simple throw away bullshit is being promoted - nothing else.
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:21 PM - 16 April, 2013
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Ya whenever i want to learn i put my national geographic dvds away and pop in my blueprint cd ...faceplam

I think everyone is overlooking the reality that ross did us a public service, I HOPE KIDS LISTEN TO HIM AND FOLLOW WHAT HE SAUD, because if we can convince kids that giving girls molly (which is fucking speed not a sedative) i think we can knock date rape down to zero. Take it from me, if you give a girl molly they will NOT pass out with no memory the next day, what they will do is stay up all fucking night playing with your turntables drinking all your juice explaining they undyung love for kittens
djkurve 6:25 PM - 16 April, 2013
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LOL! +1
DJ DisGrace 6:27 PM - 16 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

some one who thinks unlike you .... if you really do not know who he is just STOP DJING NOW!!!!

LOL The cycle has reached full circle!
djkurve 6:30 PM - 16 April, 2013
Has anyone besides me listened to all the DJ's 3 min sets on www.thefuture.fm Thoughts? Episode 3 isn't up yet, but Episode 2 is up.
AKIEM 6:48 PM - 16 April, 2013
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Hip-Hop is the most information packed form of entertainment devised yet .



Ya whenever i want to learn i put my national geographic dvds away and pop in my blueprint cd ...faceplam


as I wrote that I knew the literal argumentative type dude would come out to make an argument.

"Hip-Hop is the most information packed form of music devised yet"

is that okay with you?

nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:13 PM - 16 April, 2013
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Hip-Hop is the most information packed form of entertainment devised yet .



Ya whenever i want to learn i put my national geographic dvds away and pop in my blueprint cd ...faceplam


as I wrote that I knew the literal argumentative type dude would come out to make an argument.

"Hip-Hop is the most information packed form of music devised yet"

is that okay with you?

nm


No i still disagree

Watchwww.youtube.com
Logisticalstyles 7:19 PM - 16 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

some one who thinks unlike you .... if you really do not know who he is just STOP DJING NOW!!!!

LOL The cycle has reached full circle!


lol. Let's not start that over again.
djaction 7:47 PM - 16 April, 2013
johnnym has apparently never heard of J DILLA
djaction 7:48 PM - 16 April, 2013
or The Roots
djaction 7:49 PM - 16 April, 2013
or Q-Tip etc etc
djaction 7:50 PM - 16 April, 2013
and College Dropout is absolutely a classic album.. hell just based off the samples alone.
djaction 7:53 PM - 16 April, 2013
The Black Album isn't a classic?
AKIEM 8:01 PM - 16 April, 2013
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The Black Album isn't a classic?


Jay-Z was just in the right place at the right time or something according to johnny

I dont even know what that means
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:03 PM - 16 April, 2013
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The Black Album isn't a classic?


Jay-Z was just in the right place at the right time or something according to johnny

I dont even know what that means



What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:12 PM - 16 April, 2013
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johnnym has apparently never heard of J DILLA

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or Q-Tip etc etc


You really sound dumb...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:13 PM - 16 April, 2013
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and College Dropout is absolutely a classic album.. hell just based off the samples alone.


Ummm....no.


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The Black Album isn't a classic?


No....You could argue that Reasonable Doubt is, but no.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:14 PM - 16 April, 2013
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The Black Album isn't a classic?


Jay-Z was just in the right place at the right time or something according to johnny

I dont even know what that means


Tupac died...

Biggie died...

A vacumm was created, Jay Z was the winner by default.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:14 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....
djaction 8:30 PM - 16 April, 2013
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johnnym has apparently never heard of J DILLA

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or Q-Tip etc etc


You really sound dumb...


sound argument.

when you have no facts or logic.. just call someone dumb. works great.
djaction 8:31 PM - 16 April, 2013
So by DJJIMMYM_vSL3's logic Jay-z isn't great and the only reason he became successful was because pac + big died.

How come this didn't happen to the rest of the 900billion other rappers out there?
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:40 PM - 16 April, 2013
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So by DJJIMMYM_vSL3's logic Jay-z isn't great and the only reason he became successful was because pac + big died.

How come this didn't happen to the rest of the 900billion other rappers out there?

Because they were worse than jay, hes not saying jay isnt 1st place its just that hes first place in the special olympics
phonze 8:41 PM - 16 April, 2013
to be honest, I didn't consider The Black Album a classic either.....*runs and hides*
DJ Pete Magma 8:43 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.
DJ SPAIR 8:47 PM - 16 April, 2013
Torch is not a tro
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!

Confirmed. Torch is a troll.


I think you meant Tool not troll!
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:49 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.


Yes that was 94...2pac died in 96 big died in 97, jay really blew up with hardknocked life in 98, nas had already sizzled by then and was doin shit like belly and getting flamed for the hate me now vid, hell he didnt do shit career wise UNTIL he beefed with jay
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:53 PM - 16 April, 2013
So i go back to the original question...who else was dropping hot ish in 98 99, 50 aint even get shot till 00, ja was just releasing his first album in late 99 and that was held up on the strength on his apperiance on jays can i get a track


DMX is really the only other guy i can think ofvwho was hot
Joshua Carl 8:54 PM - 16 April, 2013
Watchwww.youtube.com

Cut Chemist Reflects ^^^

Cut Chemist and Nu Mark kill it with the swing:
Watchvimeo.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:56 PM - 16 April, 2013
Jay was in the perfect position because he was the last of the old guard before the next string came in, dmx was brand new, ja was brand new, 50 had experience under his belt but hadnt found his thing yet, pac and big died and their assoiciated camps kinda sat down for a minute after being overexposed with the whole east coast west coast thing, he was in prime position
Mike_P 8:57 PM - 16 April, 2013
Just so you guys know who you're "ring-a-round-the-rosie"-ing with here...Johnny is the guy who never heard of Zapp & Roger.......and defended it. *drops mic and walks off stage*
DJ SPAIR 9:01 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.



"It Was Written" did not come out in 94 "Illmatic" was released in 94. "It Was Written"96.

Jay was on record before Nas so how did Jay learn from Nas?

Watchwww.youtube.com

In fact Jaz was Jay Z's mentor and I think it's even quoted that Nas was influenced by Jaz.

It's Your opinion if you think Nas is better than Jay,but do your research instead of acting like a know it all.
DJ SPAIR 9:01 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.



"It Was Written" did not come out in 94 "Illmatic" was released in 94. "It Was Written"96.

Jay was on record before Nas so how did Jay learn from Nas?

Watchwww.youtube.com

In fact Jaz was Jay Z's mentor and I think it's even quoted that Nas was influenced by Jaz.

It's Your opinion if you think Nas is better than Jay,but do your research instead of acting like a know it all.
DJ SPAIR 9:01 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.



"It Was Written" did not come out in 94 "Illmatic" was released in 94. "It Was Written"96.

Jay was on record before Nas so how did Jay learn from Nas?

Watchwww.youtube.com

In fact Jaz was Jay Z's mentor and I think it's even quoted that Nas was influenced by Jaz.

It's Your opinion if you think Nas is better than Jay,but do your research instead of acting like a know it all.
DJ SPAIR 9:01 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.



"It Was Written" did not come out in 94 "Illmatic" was released in 94. "It Was Written"96.

Jay was on record before Nas so how did Jay learn from Nas?

Watchwww.youtube.com

In fact Jaz was Jay Z's mentor and I think it's even quoted that Nas was influenced by Jaz.

It's Your opinion if you think Nas is better than Jay,but do your research instead of acting like a know it all.
DJ Pete Magma 9:05 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.


Yes that was 94...2pac died in 96 big died in 97, jay really blew up with hardknocked life in 98, nas had already sizzled by then and was doin shit like belly and getting flamed for the hate me now vid, hell he didnt do shit career wise UNTIL he beefed with jay



What about the stuff with The Firm?
DJ Alkemy 9:05 PM - 16 April, 2013
Some of you are debating on classic Hip Hop albums but are only using the commercially successful ones. If your talking about Hip Hop you gotta include every aspect of the genre. Problem is, Johnny don't know shit about Hip Hop that ain't on the radio fifty times a day. Same with others in this thread. There has been a lot of classic albums after Big and Pac died. Shit, they weren't even the best when they were alive.
DJ Pete Magma 9:07 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.



"It Was Written" did not come out in 94 "Illmatic" was released in 94. "It Was Written"96.

Jay was on record before Nas so how did Jay learn from Nas?

Watchwww.youtube.com

In fact Jaz was Jay Z's mentor and I think it's even quoted that Nas was influenced by Jaz.

It's Your opinion if you think Nas is better than Jay,but do your research instead of acting like a know it all.


Jazzo was Jay - Z mentor and then Jay scummed him, and that's coming straight from Jaz because he is a good friend of mine. Nas knew Jay before Jay got on and did coach him to help him out lyrically also coming straight from Jaz mouth. My knowledge of it goes deeper than what we hear on MTV.
DJ Pete Magma 9:09 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.


Yes that was 94...2pac died in 96 big died in 97, jay really blew up with hardknocked life in 98, nas had already sizzled by then and was doin shit like belly and getting flamed for the hate me now vid, hell he didnt do shit career wise UNTIL he beefed with jay



What about the stuff with The Firm?


My mistake, Spair, it was written didn't come out in '96 it came out in '97 and that was my bad, I was talking about it was written but confused it with illmatic. That goes back to my original statement holding weight though, it was written was released in '97, so how was there nothing hot to compare with J?
DJ Pete Magma 9:15 PM - 16 April, 2013
All I know is that personally, my favorite rapper, lyrically, is AZ and that's after Big L died.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:19 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.


Yes that was 94...2pac died in 96 big died in 97, jay really blew up with hardknocked life in 98, nas had already sizzled by then and was doin shit like belly and getting flamed for the hate me now vid, hell he didnt do shit career wise UNTIL he beefed with jay



What about the stuff with The Firm?


My mistake, Spair, it was written didn't come out in '96 it came out in '97 and that was my bad, I was talking about it was written but confused it with illmatic. That goes back to my original statement holding weight though, it was written was released in '97, so how was there nothing hot to compare with J?



Because were talking about 98 99 2000, big was still alive in 97
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:20 PM - 16 April, 2013
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All I know is that personally, my favorite rapper, lyrically, is AZ and that's after Big L died.

Az was dope but he had the same prob nasbhad, he couldnt pick a beat for shit
DJ Alkemy 9:21 PM - 16 April, 2013
Aesop Rock is my favourite on a crazy lyrical tip but there are a lot of super talented MCs that would struggle to break the top 40 due to the content etc. Thats obvious to anyone who
really knows Hip-hop. Johnny just knows the same names that any run of the mill music fan would know
DJ SPAIR 9:26 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What hes saying is that jayz only got big because he was kinda hot after pac and big died and there was kinda a vacume in the game...wasnt anything else to hot atbthe moment...dont think that taked away from his later work thiugh


OMMFG...

Bezzle and I see eye to eye...

WTF...

I'm logging off now....



TIME OUT! Nothing to hot at the time?! Now, typically I agree with you guys on most things, but this is a false statement IMO. Nas' "It was Written" was released in '94, probably one of the best rap albums of all time. Nas taught Jay what he knows, that's why he rips him so hard in Ether. Jay couldn't hold a candle to Nas then and still can't now, lyrically. He has created a stellar image and has removed himself from idiotic lyricism, taking the role of an executive and it worked. He is the biggest rapper ever as far as that's concerned, but lyrically, Nas will send that man home to Beyonce crying.


Yes that was 94...2pac died in 96 big died in 97, jay really blew up with hardknocked life in 98, nas had already sizzled by then and was doin shit like belly and getting flamed for the hate me now vid, hell he didnt do shit career wise UNTIL he beefed with jay



What about the stuff with The Firm?


My mistake, Spair, it was written didn't come out in '96 it came out in '97 and that was my bad, I was talking about it was written but confused it with illmatic. That goes back to my original statement holding weight though, it was written was released in '97, so how was there nothing hot to compare with J?



It was written came out the fall of 96! www.discogs.com

Reasonable Doubt came out in 1996.


FACT

Your opinion is Your opinion I'm not going to debate who is better.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:28 PM - 16 April, 2013
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Aesop Rock is my favourite on a crazy lyrical tip but there are a lot of super talented MCs that would struggle to break the top 40 due to the content etc. Thats obvious to anyone who
really knows Hip-hop. Johnny just knows the same names that any run of the mill music fan would know



What kind of content would keep them from breaking unto the mainstream, the problem with most unknown great mcs is they are so focused on lyrics they dont put effert into the rest of the project
DJ Alkemy 9:31 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What kind of content would keep them from breaking unto the mainstream


You ever listened to Aesop Rock?
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Aesop Rock is my favourite on a crazy lyrical tip but there are a lot of super talented MCs that would struggle to break the top 40 due to the content etc. Thats obvious to anyone who
really knows Hip-hop. Johnny just knows the same names that any run of the mill music fan would know


+1 on Aesop Rock.

nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:34 PM - 16 April, 2013
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You ever listened to Aesop Rock?

No...how many twitter followers does he have?
DJ Alkemy 9:36 PM - 16 April, 2013
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What kind of content would keep them from breaking unto the mainstream


You ever listened to Aesop Rock?

No...how many twitter followers does he have?


Hahahahaha
pdidy 9:46 PM - 16 April, 2013
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AKIEM 11:08 PM - 16 April, 2013
So whats the argument again?
There was no MCs to step up after 2Pac and Biggie (because Jay dont count)

And there was no classic albums dropped in 98, 99, 00
like:
Supreme Clientel
Black Star
Black On Both Sides
Things Fall Apart
Like Water For Chocolate
Aquameni
Stankonia
Moment of Truth
Capital Pun
Heavy Mental
3rd Eye Vision
Doomsday
The Unseen
Fantastic
The Platform

if NONE of these albums qualify as "classic" - no words ned saying
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:12 PM - 16 April, 2013
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So whats the argument again?
There was no MCs to step up after 2Pac and Biggie (because Jay dont count)

And there was no classic albums dropped in 98, 99, 00
like:
Supreme Clientel
Black Star
Black On Both Sides
Things Fall Apart
Like Water For Chocolate
Aquameni
Stankonia
Moment of Truth
Capital Pun
Heavy Mental
3rd Eye Vision
Doomsday
The Unseen
Fantastic
The Platform

if NONE of these albums qualify as "classic" - no words ned saying



Ooh now were talkin
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:15 PM - 16 April, 2013
Now we really get into the quality vs commercially viable argument, i agree thats an amasing list but how much of that list was highly commercially viable.

The argument really splinters out in different directions from this point.
DJ Alkemy 11:21 PM - 16 April, 2013
Who cares if it was commercially viable though. Classic is classic regardless.
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:28 PM - 16 April, 2013
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Who cares if it was commercially viable though. Classic is classic regardless.

I agree 100% but were not really arguing about that,were discussing how jay got to be jay
DJ Alkemy 11:44 PM - 16 April, 2013
But listing them albums were because Barney The Dinosaur said no classic albums came after big and pac passed.
skinnyguy 12:22 AM - 17 April, 2013
i remember back in the day when this thread was about vh1's master of the mix season 3...
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:23 AM - 17 April, 2013
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But listing them albums were because Barney The Dinosaur said no classic albums came after big and pac passed.

Ok lemme ask you this, i agree they are classics.....but do you feel they influenced hiphop as a whole?
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:24 AM - 17 April, 2013
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i remember back in the day when this thread was about vh1's master of the mix season 3...

Is that still on?

I thought this thread was about peoples fave drinks
R-Tistic 12:31 AM - 17 April, 2013
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B hen shouldn't of even made it on the show. I don't even know what they seen in him. I see his wack ass all the time. that's the bullshit we have to go thru in la with these new dj's that don't even know their history all they know is this new era of music shit. when i saw 70's 80'90' i knew he was gone.


His personality is what got him on the show. Capri hit it right on the head with his showmanship comment and that's why he stuck around.


I know him, did a party with him on Saturday...and many of us who know him all felt that he was TOO MUCH of a show on there. He actually isn't a bad DJ, but you can tell he's only been at it for three years. I'll say he can be inconsistent and unpredictable at times...but the antics on the show were much worse than his actual skills are...yet, as said, the antics are what got him onto the show. He shoulda just focused on the skills once he made it on.
AKIEM 12:57 AM - 17 April, 2013
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But listing them albums were because Barney The Dinosaur said no classic albums came after big and pac passed.

Ok lemme ask you this, i agree they are classics.....but do you feel they influenced hiphop as a whole?


That depends on how you define "hip-hop" - if that includes ATL stripper music (lol) then - no.

And Rakim, Kane, KRS was never played in ATL strip clubs during their prime either.

Hip-Hop is much more "diverse" nowadays. So yeah - it all depends on if you want to include what a motherfuckers opinions is on TMZ, in a strip club, on a vodka ad or whatever.
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"what a motherfuckers opinions is on TMZ"

lol
DJ Alkemy 1:08 AM - 17 April, 2013
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But listing them albums were because Barney The Dinosaur said no classic albums came after big and pac passed.

Ok lemme ask you this, i agree they are classics.....but do you feel they influenced hiphop as a whole?


Every classic album influences in some shape or form. So yes.
damehype 2:33 AM - 17 April, 2013
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lets not forget, Em really kind of ghost wrote ALOT of Dre's Chronic 2001


What up BKS???
damehype 2:36 AM - 17 April, 2013
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Aesop Rock is my favourite on a crazy lyrical tip but there are a lot of super talented MCs that would struggle to break the top 40 due to the content etc. Thats obvious to anyone who
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Is this the same guy as A$ap Rocky?
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:53 AM - 17 April, 2013
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But listing them albums were because Barney The Dinosaur said no classic albums came after big and pac passed.

Ok lemme ask you this, i agree they are classics.....but do you feel they influenced hiphop as a whole?


That depends on how you define "hip-hop" - if that includes ATL stripper music (lol) then - no.

And Rakim, Kane, KRS was never played in ATL strip clubs during their prime either.

Hip-Hop is much more "diverse" nowadays. So yeah - it all depends on if you want to include what a motherfuckers opinions is on TMZ, in a strip club, on a vodka ad or whatever.


Im saying did those albums influence hiphop in any way shape or form, or were they just great albums
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:55 AM - 17 April, 2013
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But listing them albums were because Barney The Dinosaur said no classic albums came after big and pac passed.

Ok lemme ask you this, i agree they are classics.....but do you feel they influenced hiphop as a whole?


Every classic album influences in some shape or form. So yes.



How would you say...supreme clientele, influenced hiphop, did it cause a shift in the culture, did it spawn a generation of imitators ect?


..ps che che la ghost is so insanley catchy lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:56 AM - 17 April, 2013
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really knows Hip-hop. Johnny just knows the same names that any run of the mill music fan would know


Is this the same guy as A$ap Rocky?

I was gonna use that troll but it was way ti obvious
DJ Pete Magma 4:00 AM - 17 April, 2013
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So whats the argument again?
There was no MCs to step up after 2Pac and Biggie (because Jay dont count)

And there was no classic albums dropped in 98, 99, 00
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Supreme Clientel
Black Star
Black On Both Sides
Things Fall Apart
Like Water For Chocolate
Aquameni
Stankonia
Moment of Truth
Capital Pun
Heavy Mental
3rd Eye Vision
Doomsday
The Unseen
Fantastic
The Platform

if NONE of these albums qualify as "classic" - no words ned saying


Well said. No argument here, those are all classics. I see where Bezzle is coming from, just the whole "no classic albums" statement was a bit O.D. I think he meant no mainstream albums to come out, but again, like Spair said, It Was Written came out in '96 and so did Reasonable Doubt, I thought Written came out in '97 per Nas' post on a website, but discogs doesn't lie so I stand corrected. That doesn't help the argument at hand though, both were great albums but so were the ones listed above. I think Jay just played it right. @Bezzle, AZ was definitely dope, but he also had beats man. He could definitely pick a beat, Affirmative Action was a crazy beat, "Street Life" was one of the most classic beats in hip hop to me. The instrumentation was amazing on that beat, the strings touched you, unfortunately, AZ did NOT do his thing on that in my opinion, but the beat was definitely crushable. Nas had some great beats also, The Message was awesome, One Mic was awesome, If I Ruled the World, classic, do you not agree?
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:03 AM - 17 April, 2013
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So whats the argument again?
There was no MCs to step up after 2Pac and Biggie (because Jay dont count)

And there was no classic albums dropped in 98, 99, 00
like:
Supreme Clientel
Black Star
Black On Both Sides
Things Fall Apart
Like Water For Chocolate
Aquameni
Stankonia
Moment of Truth
Capital Pun
Heavy Mental
3rd Eye Vision
Doomsday
The Unseen
Fantastic
The Platform

if NONE of these albums qualify as "classic" - no words ned saying


Well said. No argument here, those are all classics. I see where Bezzle is coming from, just the whole "no classic albums" statement was a bit O.D. I think he meant no mainstream albums to come out, but again, like Spair said, It Was Written came out in '96 and so did Reasonable Doubt, I thought Written came out in '97 per Nas' post on a website, but discogs doesn't lie so I stand corrected. That doesn't help the argument at hand though, both were great albums but so were the ones listed above. I think Jay just played it right. @Bezzle, AZ was definitely dope, but he also had beats man. He could definitely pick a beat, Affirmative Action was a crazy beat, "Street Life" was one of the most classic beats in hip hop to me. The instrumentation was amazing on that beat, the strings touched you, unfortunately, AZ did NOT do his thing on that in my opinion, but the beat was definitely crushable. Nas had some great beats also, The Message was awesome, One Mic was awesome, If I Ruled the World, classic, do you not agree?

without a dout
DJ Pete Magma 4:04 AM - 17 April, 2013
The problem is that today you have all of these "pop" bullshit beats, all the same synths, all use the same drum patterns, just no diversity. That's the reason why the old beats may seem not as mainstream, but in there time and even now IMO there's definitely quality in those instrumentals. You don't hear anymore "Try Again"'s by Timbaland and "Self Conscience" by Mobb Deep's. Those days are gone, much to my dismay. :/
AKIEM 5:21 AM - 17 April, 2013
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But listing them albums were because Barney The Dinosaur said no classic albums came after big and pac passed.

Ok lemme ask you this, i agree they are classics.....but do you feel they influenced hiphop as a whole?


That depends on how you define "hip-hop" - if that includes ATL stripper music (lol) then - no.

And Rakim, Kane, KRS was never played in ATL strip clubs during their prime either.

Hip-Hop is much more "diverse" nowadays. So yeah - it all depends on if you want to include what a motherfuckers opinions is on TMZ, in a strip club, on a vodka ad or whatever.


Im saying did those albums influence hiphop in any way shape or form, or were they just great albums


I thought I was naming "classic" albums.

But yes - those albums did influence Hip-Hop in various and many ways - maybe not each the source of whatever innovation but were definitive or at least classic. But cmon tho Stankonia? - experimental and still "commercially viable"

any doubt? scroll down to Legacy and Influence en.wikipedia.org
and I bet this fella trying to argue whatever his point is never even listened to Stankonia or half them albums I listed. (even the tri-state joints)

cant go more mainstream than grammy nominations tho

Big Pun first Platinum Latin rapper

Doomsday... enter an MC who hides his identity behind a Metal Face mask and sends out impostors?

Im not going to bother going through each album here... but obviously...

let me guess this dude is going to come try and trash or downplay these albums
remember this cat trying to say LL sold out when he "started making love songs" - LOL
dj_soo 11:04 AM - 17 April, 2013
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did you guys see this shit? I do agree that Hip Hop music could have better content, but this fool...who da fugg is he?

www.youtube.com!


Bwahaha
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:05 AM - 17 April, 2013
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Doomsday... enter an MC who hides his identity behind a Metal Face mask and sends out impostors?
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Wait wait wait...so thats COOL, as long as its in hiphop...theres that forum hypocracy again lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:05 AM - 17 April, 2013
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Wait wait wait...so thats COOL, as long as its in hiphop...theres that forum hypocracy again lol

Wait wait wait...so thats COOL, as long as its in hiphop...theres that forum hypocracy again lol
Laz219 11:51 AM - 17 April, 2013
We need a 'Killamau5' to go after Deadmau5
AKIEM 2:50 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Wait wait wait...so thats COOL, as long as its in hiphop...theres that forum hypocracy again lol

Wait wait wait...so thats COOL, as long as its in hiphop...theres that forum hypocracy again lol


Hypocrisy?

How's that?


COOL or not - it made an impact on HipHop.
DJ Alkemy 3:06 PM - 17 April, 2013
And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.
Mike_P 3:08 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.
DJ Alkemy 3:21 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.


+1
DJ SPAIR 3:44 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.



I don't know how "successfull"it was lol but yeah he definelly had somewhat a career with KMD
Mike_P 3:50 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.



I don't know how "successfull"it was lol but yeah he definelly had somewhat a career with KMD

Not Lil Wayne successful but successful enough not to work a day job. That's success in my book. Lol
djkurve 3:54 PM - 17 April, 2013
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i remember back in the day when this thread was about vh1's master of the mix season 3...



YUP!
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:55 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.



I don't know how "successfull"it was lol but yeah he definelly had somewhat a career with KMD

Not Lil Wayne successful but successful enough not to work a day job. That's success in my book. Lol


Doom looks like he survives by consuming a mixture if ramen, hostess cakes and broken dreams, not having a job dosent say much about his success status
DJ Alkemy 3:55 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.



I don't know how "successfull"it was lol but yeah he definelly had somewhat a career with KMD

Not Lil Wayne successful but successful enough not to work a day job. That's success in my book. Lol


Hell yeah
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.



I don't know how "successfull"it was lol but yeah he definelly had somewhat a career with KMD

Not Lil Wayne successful but successful enough not to work a day job. That's success in my book. Lol


In that case i just drove by the welfare office and im happy to know my citys breeming with succesful people

Hell yeah
djkurve 3:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
So since we're talking about hip hop, Master of The Mix Episode 3 DJ sets are online. Stream em here!

www.thefuture.fm
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.



I don't know how "successfull"it was lol but yeah he definelly had somewhat a career with KMD

Not Lil Wayne successful but successful enough not to work a day job. That's success in my book. Lol



Hell yeah



In that case i just drove by the welfare office and im happy to know my citys breeming with succesful people
DJ Alkemy 4:03 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And to be honest, I think Doom was making a point by not wanting to have his face on his projects. Plus the music he was doing was never going to cross over anyway and he knew it. Deadmau5 knew that having a giant mouse head on himself, along with the music he was doing was gonna get an extra buzz.

not only that, but Doom had a successful career BEFORE he became Doom.



I don't know how "successfull"it was lol but yeah he definelly had somewhat a career with KMD

Not Lil Wayne successful but successful enough not to work a day job. That's success in my book. Lol



Hell yeah



In that case i just drove by the welfare office and im happy to know my citys breeming with succesful people


Succesfull enough not to work a day job DONT mean being unemployed. Let's not get even more silly in this thread
SpareChange 4:04 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Tupac died...

Biggie died...

A vacumm was created, Jay Z was the winner by default.



I have to agree with this...I think had they not died he would have remained below them just because he has never had the charisma/personality of BIG or Pac and if BIG were alive he wouldn't have been able to get away with biting so many of his lyrics..I do think Reasonable Doubt is a classic and you could argue the Black Album as well simply because it was that much better than what else was coming out at that time period.


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Just so you guys know who you're "ring-a-round-the-rosie"-ing with here...Johnny is the guy who never heard of Zapp & Roger.......and defended it. *drops mic and walks off stage*


Wow.....I honestly hope this isn't true
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:13 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Biggie died...

A vacumm was created, Jay Z was the winner by default.



I have to agree with this...I think had they not died he would have remained below them just because he has never had the charisma/personality of BIG or Pac and if BIG were alive he wouldn't have been able to get away with biting so many of his lyrics..I do think Reasonable Doubt is a classic and you could argue the Black Album as well simply because it was that much better than what else was coming out at that time period.


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Just so you guys know who you're "ring-a-round-the-rosie"-ing with here...Johnny is the guy who never heard of Zapp & Roger.......and defended it. *drops mic and walks off stage*


Wow.....I honestly hope this isn't true


Ya i was lookin at a top 100 of 99 and jayband busta were the only 2 rappers on the list
DJ DisGrace 4:20 PM - 17 April, 2013
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a i was lookin at a top 100 of 99 and jayband busta were the only 2 rappers on the list

Mos Def?
The Roots?
Chronic 2001?
Red & Meth?
Beatnuts?
rateyourmusic.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:23 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Mos Def?
The Roots?
Chronic 2001?
Red & Meth?
Beatnuts?
rateyourmusic.com



You linked to a list of top 100 hiphop, of course there will be rappers listed, the list i was looking at was top 100 overall, only two rappers listed
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:24 PM - 17 April, 2013
Make that 3 including jtmoney


www.bobborst.com
DJ DisGrace 4:26 PM - 17 April, 2013
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LOL now you sound like Johnny looking for hiphop in the Billboard Top 100 charts ;)

Yea, the hip hop was definitely buried around that time. There was a lot of house coming up around then (Stardust, You Don't Know Me, Silence, etc) and a lot of extra cheesy/novelty pop tunes (Mambo #5, Touch n Go, etc)
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:33 PM - 17 April, 2013
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LOL now you sound like Johnny looking for hiphop in the Billboard Top 100 charts ;)



But thats what we are saying, without the vacume created by pac and bigs death he wouldnt have been on that top 100 chart either, hed be another dude with an album burried down on peoples hiphop list somewhere
DJ DisGrace 4:35 PM - 17 April, 2013
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LOL now you sound like Johnny looking for hiphop in the Billboard Top 100 charts ;)
But thats what we are saying, without the vacume created by pac and bigs death he wouldnt have been on that top 100 chart either, hed be another dude with an album burried down on peoples hiphop list somewhere

Fair enough. I can roll with that.
Mr. Goodkat 4:38 PM - 17 April, 2013
so we've got to the point where jay would be nothing if pac and big hadn't been killed?

you realize jay and big had a record on the first jay album?

and it wasnt just jaz that gave a break or mentored him. Big Daddy Kane was instrumental in his development as well.
DJ Alkemy 4:40 PM - 17 April, 2013
Yeah, I think Jay-Z would have still been huge. This vacum nonsense is crap.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:46 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Just so you guys know who you're "ring-a-round-the-rosie"-ing with here...Johnny is the guy who never heard of Zapp & Roger.......and defended it. *drops mic and walks off stage*


Wow.....I honestly hope this isn't true


No, cats like to take things out of context....

Out in the West/MidWest y'all refer to them as Zapp and Roger...

Here in the Tri-State, they were just known as Zapp....so I was who the hell is Roger when someone mentioned it....

smh...
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:46 PM - 17 April, 2013
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so we've got to the point where jay would be nothing if pac and big hadn't been killed?

you realize jay and big had a record on the first jay album?

and it wasnt just jaz that gave a break or mentored him. Big Daddy Kane was instrumental in his development as well.



Sure i agree with all of that, thats what i even explained earlier he was the vet of that caliber at thetime, the next wave were all releasing their freshman releases, im not saying hed be a nobody but do you think his king if new york proclimations woulda held water with big alive?
DJ Alkemy 4:50 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Mr. Goodkat 4:52 PM - 17 April, 2013
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so we've got to the point where jay would be nothing if pac and big hadn't been killed?

you realize jay and big had a record on the first jay album?

and it wasnt just jaz that gave a break or mentored him. Big Daddy Kane was instrumental in his development as well.



Sure i agree with all of that, thats what i even explained earlier he was the vet of that caliber at thetime, the next wave were all releasing their freshman releases, im not saying hed be a nobody but do you think his king if new york proclimations woulda held water with big alive?


well, he kinda took that title after big's death for a reason, to kinda rep big and say that since he died he was the king, which clearly he was and is.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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so we've got to the point where jay would be nothing if pac and big hadn't been killed?

you realize jay and big had a record on the first jay album?

and it wasnt just jaz that gave a break or mentored him. Big Daddy Kane was instrumental in his development as well.



Sure i agree with all of that, thats what i even explained earlier he was the vet of that caliber at thetime, the next wave were all releasing their freshman releases, im not saying hed be a nobody but do you think his king if new york proclimations woulda held water with big alive?


well, he kinda took that title after big's death for a reason, to kinda rep big and say that since he died he was the king, which clearly he was and is.



So what your saying is that he only achieved his status, which gave credit to his bravado, because big died.....so jay only rose due to the vacume created by bigs death...whos been saying that exactly this entire thread again
Mr. Goodkat 5:01 PM - 17 April, 2013
c'mon now bez, thats not the only reason jay ascended, he was already moving that way, and was bigs contemporary not his lil bitch. At the time they were both popular and now big is dead so he gets the legend status. NO one knows what would have happened if big hadnt died at 24. WHo knows maybe they teamed up to form their own watch the throne project. In hindsight, it can look like that, but its impossible to speak to fact.

what i was saying really was that in honor of big, he took that title due to his respect and his repping brooklyn. If he was in queens, bx or manhattan, he might have taken a different approach from the beginning.
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c'mon now bez, thats not the only reason jay ascended, he was already moving that way, and was bigs contemporary not his lil bitch. At the time they were both popular

Sure....was anyone else?
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:09 PM - 17 April, 2013
Let me clarify a few things
A) i have a valid point
B) i am 100% correct
C) im having trouble articulating my point
D) the point im making is pretty meaningless and dosent merit this much exploration lol
DJ Alkemy 5:09 PM - 17 April, 2013
This thread, like so many others on these boards just go round and round in circles lol
Mr. Goodkat 5:28 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Sure....was anyone else?


as in other big acts? WHat Jay had that other rappers didnt, incl big, was a the ownership of a label, that at some point got picked up by a major label. I would say that his ownership of a PR vehicle like that was a bigger factor than BIG dying. When you can put all the resources of a label behind you into all the behind the scenes factors i.e radio play, promotional ads, then you are always going to win. Jay never put talent around him at Rocafella, and started as the only act.

i do think you have a point, though, but a lot of life is right place right time. I say it all the time about jordan, he was in the right place, right time. i would expound, but hoops really takes this post on a tangent
Joshua Carl 5:40 PM - 17 April, 2013
www.jillstanek.com

^^^ These two have beaten this conversation to death as well.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:46 PM - 17 April, 2013
Finally got a block of time to kill to RESPOND, and I don't even know where to start...smh..
DJ Boss Sounds 5:56 PM - 17 April, 2013
The kid from the Bronx killed it!
SpareChange 5:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Just so you guys know who you're "ring-a-round-the-rosie"-ing with here...Johnny is the guy who never heard of Zapp & Roger.......and defended it. *drops mic and walks off stage*


Wow.....I honestly hope this isn't true


No, cats like to take things out of context....

Out in the West/MidWest y'all refer to them as Zapp and Roger...

Here in the Tri-State, they were just known as Zapp....so I was who the hell is Roger when someone mentioned it....

smh...


Still you should know who Roger is...he's a legend and had a big solo career as well..maybe I'm biased being from Dayton (I actually just did a show with his son a couple weeks ago) and maybe he's not as known on the east coast but he's a big name in music period and revolutionized the talk box...

if it weren't for him you would have no (you gots to chill, ain't no future in yo frontin, pay ya dues, california love etc.) really a good chunk of the west coast classic hip hop wouldn't exist
Mike_P 6:08 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Just so you guys know who you're "ring-a-round-the-rosie"-ing with here...Johnny is the guy who never heard of Zapp & Roger.......and defended it. *drops mic and walks off stage*


Wow.....I honestly hope this isn't true


No, cats like to take things out of context....

Out in the West/MidWest y'all refer to them as Zapp and Roger...

Here in the Tri-State, they were just known as Zapp....so I was who the hell is Roger when someone mentioned it....

smh...

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1. George Clinton's music is not kid friendly.
2. Who is Zapp and Roger - Fail
3. Madonna is not kid friendly
4. Janet Jackson - Yes you can play a SET of her and the world will listen.
5. Gap Band is decent but nowhere near crossing mass boundries.
6. Mix A Lot has 1 song, there is NO SET.
7. Prince is 2nd to Janet, but not kid friendly.
8. Salt and Pepa - Push It is another 1 hit, and they DO have a catalog, but most were RAP vs. having crossover appeal.

The biggest one you forgot that you should have said first is JAMES BROWN. The entire world knows him, little kids imitate his dance steps, and he's still able to be rocked at backyard BBQ's.


lol! stop playin! you're still holding on to that bs excuse that "Zapp and Roger" completely through you for "Zapp." BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! dude just admit your music knowledge is limited. ABBA for god's sake!
Mike_P 6:09 PM - 17 April, 2013
*threw not through
AKIEM 6:11 PM - 17 April, 2013
SMH
binkis.files.wordpress.com


and DOOM deposits large checks = career success
auttomattik 6:11 PM - 17 April, 2013
Holy shit, I'm still tracking this...................................WHY????????
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:11 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Just so you guys know who you're "ring-a-round-the-rosie"-ing with here...Johnny is the guy who never heard of Zapp & Roger.......and defended it. *drops mic and walks off stage*


Wow.....I honestly hope this isn't true


No, cats like to take things out of context....

Out in the West/MidWest y'all refer to them as Zapp and Roger...

Here in the Tri-State, they were just known as Zapp....so I was who the hell is Roger when someone mentioned it....

smh...


Still you should know who Roger is...he's a legend and had a big solo career as well..maybe I'm biased being from Dayton (I actually just did a show with his son a couple weeks ago) and maybe he's not as known on the east coast but he's a big name in music period and revolutionized the talk box...

if it weren't for him you would have no (you gots to chill, ain't no future in yo frontin, pay ya dues, california love etc.) really a good chunk of the west coast classic hip hop wouldn't exist


And just like I said, you proved my POINT....You guys knew Zapp as Zapp And Roger...

Over HERE we just knew them as Zapp....

More Bounce has been a classic for eons...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:14 PM - 17 April, 2013
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1. George Clinton's music is not kid friendly.
2. Who is Zapp and Roger - Fail
3. Madonna is not kid friendly
4. Janet Jackson - Yes you can play a SET of her and the world will listen.
5. Gap Band is decent but nowhere near crossing mass boundries.
6. Mix A Lot has 1 song, there is NO SET.
7. Prince is 2nd to Janet, but not kid friendly.
8. Salt and Pepa - Push It is another 1 hit, and they DO have a catalog, but most were RAP vs. having crossover appeal.

The biggest one you forgot that you should have said first is JAMES BROWN. The entire world knows him, little kids imitate his dance steps, and he's still able to be rocked at backyard BBQ's.
lol! stop playin! you're still holding on to that bs excuse that "Zapp and Roger" completely through you for "Zapp." BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! dude just admit your music knowledge is limited. ABBA for god's sake!


LIMITED? You MUST be stupid too...

Again, Zapp and ROGER was NOT the "Common" name for Zapp out here...smh...

This isn't some Nancy Drew mystery, it's clean cut.

smh @ tryin' to tell THE EAST COAST how WE interpreted something....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:17 PM - 17 April, 2013
Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap, you probably know his middle name, Social Security Number and times of availability...

The same way we know DJ Cheese as Lil' Cheese.
AKIEM 6:18 PM - 17 April, 2013
AKIEM 6:18 PM - 17 April, 2013
Mike_P 6:21 PM - 17 April, 2013
Lol! Wait...I'm stupid but you're the dumbass who couldn't figure that Zapp was synonymous with Zapp & Roger! LMMFAO!!! That's like saying, who the hell is Diana Ross and the Supremes? I've only heard of the Supremes. BAHAHAHA! Now I'll even go so far as to say that your music knowledge is EXTREMELY limited. No wonder none of your arguments hold any water!
AKIEM 6:22 PM - 17 April, 2013
the one that cracks me up is when JM seriously tried to argue LL Cool J "sold out" - because he "started" making soft love songs.

anyway

Im going to put a bottle of Grey Goose in the freezer in honor of this thread.
Mike_P 6:24 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap, you probably know his middle name, Social Security Number and times of availability...

The same way we know DJ Cheese as Lil' Cheese.

He's from Ohio dipshit. And his influence reached worldwide (except for your basement, apparently.)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:27 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Lol! Wait...I'm stupid but you're the dumbass who couldn't figure that Zapp was synonymous with Zapp & Roger! LMMFAO!!! That's like saying, who the hell is Diana Ross and the Supremes? I've only heard of the Supremes. BAHAHAHA! Now I'll even go so far as to say that your music knowledge is EXTREMELY limited. No wonder none of your arguments hold any water!


Dude...

en.wikipedia.org(band)

You see this? -> Zapp (also known as the Zapp Band or Zapp and Roger) ?

AGAIN, they INITIALLY came out as ZAPP....then LATER got adapted to Zapp and Roger....

smh...
Mr. Goodkat 6:27 PM - 17 April, 2013
dont forget epmd - you gots to chill, thats as east coast as it gets.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:28 PM - 17 April, 2013



And?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:29 PM - 17 April, 2013
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the one that cracks me up is when JM seriously tried to argue LL Cool J "sold out" - because he "started" making soft love songs.

anyway

Im going to put a bottle of Grey Goose in the freezer in honor of this thread.


I suppose you have that link so I can show you the context of which you're taking me out of?
AKIEM 6:29 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And?


which records do you have?
AKIEM 6:29 PM - 17 April, 2013
lol
SpareChange 6:31 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap, you probably know his middle name, Social Security Number and times of availability...

The same way we know DJ Cheese as Lil' Cheese.


actually he's been gone for quite a while..

so did DJ Cheese release popular albums under the Lil' Cheese name?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:32 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap, you probably know his middle name, Social Security Number and times of availability...

The same way we know DJ Cheese as Lil' Cheese.

He's from Ohio dipshit. And his influence reached worldwide (except for your basement, apparently.)


See? You STILL stupid. I DIDN'T SAY he was FROM THE WEST COAST..

I specifically said
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap,
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:35 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap, you probably know his middle name, Social Security Number and times of availability...

The same way we know DJ Cheese as Lil' Cheese.


actually he's been gone for quite a while..

so did DJ Cheese release popular albums under the Lil' Cheese name?


***sigh***
www.discogs.com
DJ SPAIR 6:35 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap, you probably know his middle name, Social Security Number and times of availability...

The same way we know DJ Cheese as Lil' Cheese.

He's from Ohio dipshit. And his influence reached worldwide (except for your basement, apparently.)


See? You STILL stupid. I DIDN'T SAY he was FROM THE WEST COAST..

I specifically said
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap,


How did this thread go from Master Of Mix to Zapp & Roger? There's too much hijacking going on.
Mike_P 6:39 PM - 17 April, 2013
It's like talking to lint. Smh
AKIEM 6:40 PM - 17 April, 2013
serato.com
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AKIEM 6:41 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Since they apparently has "So much" influence on West Coast Rap, you probably know his middle name, Social Security Number and times of availability...

The same way we know DJ Cheese as Lil' Cheese.


actually he's been gone for quite a while..

so did DJ Cheese release popular albums under the Lil' Cheese name?


***sigh***
www.discogs.com



LMAO
www.discogs.com
Mike_P 6:45 PM - 17 April, 2013
Lol!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:50 PM - 17 April, 2013
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serato.com
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And here's the correct context of which I was talking -

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Like I said, he SOLD OUT to get those opportunities, and when I was younger, I didn't understand him abandoning the BattleGame like that..

As I grew older, and still saw him still relevant in the public eye, it finally made sense as to what he did...

That's why I say He SOLD OUT, but I'm NOT mad at that...

He caked out, made some movies, TV series, and is still chillin' today...


And I still stand by that statement years later...

Muhfuggahs think they slick posting FRAGMENTS of what a cat says....

smh...
AKIEM 6:59 PM - 17 April, 2013
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serato.com
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And here's the correct context of which I was talking -

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Like I said, he SOLD OUT to get those opportunities, and when I was younger, I didn't understand him abandoning the BattleGame like that..

As I grew older, and still saw him still relevant in the public eye, it finally made sense as to what he did...

That's why I say He SOLD OUT, but I'm NOT mad at that...

He caked out, made some movies, TV series, and is still chillin' today...


And I still stand by that statement years later...

Muhfuggahs think they slick posting FRAGMENTS of what a cat says....

smh...


anyone can read the thread for themselves
(and will come to the same conclusion - you dont know what ur talking about)

LOL - LL started making soft love songs with "14 Shots To The Dome"
and "Pink Cookies" is all soft as HELL - LOL

LOL - But will Smith never changed his style - LOL
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:04 PM - 17 April, 2013
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anyone can read the thread for themselves
(and will come to the same conclusion - you dont know what ur talking about)

LOL - LL started making soft love songs with "14 Shots To The Dome"
and "Pink Cookies" is all soft as HELL - LOL

LOL - But will Smith never changed his style - LOL


Ummm...Will has ALWAYS been a Bubble Gum rapper....so he DID NOT change his style...

LL came out as a rock hard Battle Rapper - Had ALL MC's on their toes... Was crushing the competition...

Saw a Female market, and capitolized on it...

I keep saying I AIN'T MAD AT HIM....

You must be writing a Manifesto or something...
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:06 PM - 17 April, 2013
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anyone can read the thread for themselves


Anyone with several days of nothing to do, no life, a iron clad attention span, and the patience and forgivness of a shaliin monk
AKIEM 7:15 PM - 17 April, 2013
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anyone can read the thread for themselves


Anyone with several days of nothing to do, no life, a iron clad attention span, and the patience and forgivness of a shaliin monk


its actually a short thread and ends with a [/checkmate]

but to understand it all you have know is JM was trying to say Fresh Prince was never even a rapper, and never changed up and went hollywood like LL did. And LL sold out because he STARTED making love songs. "14 Shots to the dome" was the start of the softness (since JM forgot about Mama Said Knock You OUT at first) and his example of a soft LL record is "Pink Cookies" - LMFAO

Roger Troutman, who the fuck is that?
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:17 PM - 17 April, 2013
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anyone can read the thread for themselves


Anyone with several days of nothing to do, no life, a iron clad attention span, and the patience and forgivness of a shaliin monk


its actually a short thread and ends with a [/checkmate]

but to understand it all you have know is JM was trying to say Fresh Prince was never even a rapper, and never changed up and went hollywood like LL did. And LL sold out because he STARTED making love songs. "14 Shots to the dome" was the start of the softness (since JM forgot about Mama Said Knock You OUT at first) and his example of a soft LL record is "Pink Cookies" - LMFAO

Roger Troutman, who the fuck is that?


Ouch
Logisticalstyles 7:28 PM - 17 April, 2013
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anyone can read the thread for themselves


Anyone with several days of nothing to do, no life, a iron clad attention span, and the patience and forgivness of a shaliin monk


its actually a short thread and ends with a [/checkmate]

but to understand it all you have know is JM was trying to say Fresh Prince was never even a rapper, and never changed up and went hollywood like LL did. And LL sold out because he STARTED making love songs. "14 Shots to the dome" was the start of the softness (since JM forgot about Mama Said Knock You OUT at first) and his example of a soft LL record is "Pink Cookies" - LMFAO

Roger Troutman, who the fuck is that?


Damn. Based on that synopsis, it looks like Techniq might have to pass the title of NoCred over to Johnny.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:32 PM - 17 April, 2013
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anyone can read the thread for themselves


Anyone with several days of nothing to do, no life, a iron clad attention span, and the patience and forgivness of a shaliin monk


its actually a short thread and ends with a [/checkmate]

but to understand it all you have know is JM was trying to say Fresh Prince was never even a rapper, and never changed up and went hollywood like LL did. And LL sold out because he STARTED making love songs. "14 Shots to the dome" was the start of the softness (since JM forgot about Mama Said Knock You OUT at first) and his example of a soft LL record is "Pink Cookies" - LMFAO

Roger Troutman, who the fuck is that?


Damn. Based on that synopsis, it looks like Techniq might have to pass the title of NoCred over to Johnny.



Lol i was thinkin the same thing
AKIEM 7:41 PM - 17 April, 2013
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:47 PM - 17 April, 2013
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anyone can read the thread for themselves


Anyone with several days of nothing to do, no life, a iron clad attention span, and the patience and forgivness of a shaliin monk


its actually a short thread and ends with a [/checkmate]

but to understand it all you have know is JM was trying to say Fresh Prince was never even a rapper, and never changed up and went hollywood like LL did. And LL sold out because he STARTED making love songs. "14 Shots to the dome" was the start of the softness (since JM forgot about Mama Said Knock You OUT at first) and his example of a soft LL record is "Pink Cookies" - LMFAO

Roger Troutman, who the fuck is that?


SMH...

Again, you struggle with your made up illusions.

I SAID -
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Like I said, he SOLD OUT to get those opportunities, and when I was younger, I didn't understand him abandoning the BattleGame like that..

As I grew older, and still saw him still relevant in the public eye, it finally made sense as to what he did...

That's why I say He SOLD OUT, but I'm NOT mad at that...

He caked out, made some movies, TV series, and is still chillin' today...


And you held that close to your BOSOM for all this time?

I got at you THAT BAD?

FOR ALL THOSE YEARS???

Son, forreal?

When's the Manifesto comin' out mayne?

That mess is a classic ALREADY.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:49 PM - 17 April, 2013
And here is where your slip starts to show..

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but to understand it all you have know is JM was trying to say Fresh Prince was never even a rapper, and never changed up and went hollywood like LL did.


Where did I EVER SAY FP WAS NEVER A RAPPER?

I said he was ALWAYS A BUBBLEGUM (W)Rapper......tapped the Crossover Market, and made loot...

He NEVER changed up his style...

He's ALWAYS been the same type of RAPPER from DAY ONE....lmao.

Dude, you're INSANE...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:51 PM - 17 April, 2013


And what exactly does THAT prove? That he went "HARD"?

Is Fresh Prince what YOU considered a Battle Rapper?

Man, RR was RIGHT about you.....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:55 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Damn. Based on that synopsis, it looks like Techniq might have to pass the title of NoCred over to Johnny.


And THAT'S what I'm saying...

In HIS view, He's saying LL "NEVER" switched styles and garnered fame and fortune...

I said, LL came out to the Battlecats - Ran that into the ground, found an audience of Female supporter, cashed out, and kept makin' loot...

He's creating his Manifesto right now, and this is an integral part of it...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:56 PM - 17 April, 2013
Y'all ALREADY KNOW Akiem has a "Skewed" vision....

smh...
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:07 PM - 17 April, 2013
..
I agree on the ll thing
AKIEM 8:11 PM - 17 April, 2013
I wasnt holding anything close.
You think Barbara Strisand is Classic Rock
You never heard of Roger Troutman

shit makes me laugh and reminded me you think LL sold out then he STARTED making love songs with "14 Shots" "Pink Cookies" - I say he started with the soft records on RADIO. And he kept damn near the same formula of Battle Raps+Dance Songs+Love Songs throughout his entire Def Jam album contract.

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Will seemed to me like he NEVER switched up his style, he was always a comedic rapper who was family friendly.
He STAYED EXACTLY THE SAME, and blew up because of it.


but I dont know why we have to re-argue it -the thread is there

I never said FP was a "Battle Rapper" you said he was not even perceived as a "Rapper" therefore never "sold out"


if you think ABBA and Barbara Strisand is Classic Rock you ant qualified do call anyone "skewed"

And if you never heard of Roger - well I dont even know what to say about that
DJ DisGrace 8:16 PM - 17 April, 2013
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I say he started with the soft records on RADIO

With a name like "Ladies Love Cool J", you'd have to think this was always the plan
DJ Alkemy 8:23 PM - 17 April, 2013
On his debut release, in amongst the hard tracks he had I Want You & I Can Give You More.

Barney The Dinosaur talking drivel again.
djaction 8:24 PM - 17 April, 2013
yo Barbara Streissand is NOT classic rock wtf jonny lol
AKIEM 8:26 PM - 17 April, 2013
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LL Cool J - "I Need Love" his first Number 1 Hit, bullshit R&B Charts
Second LP (his battle era no less)
And that shits way SOFTER than ANY Jazzy Jeff Fresh Prince record.


LL maintained his MC image and completed a 10 (or however many) album contract with Def Jam. Will Smith was rhyming the same battle type raps (not as well) when he started but hardly maintained a music career to become a movie star. If one of these dudes "sold out" it is definitely the dude BKA Will Smith.

You cant tell me Fresh Prince plan at 17 was to parley his music career into a movies. LL is still known as an MC first (however far he fell of recently) 2009 he aint sell out yet.


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I say he started with the soft records on RADIO

With a name like "Ladies Love Cool J", you'd have to think this was always the plan


that point forever alludes JM


worse JMs pinpoint for where LL lost it "Pink Cookies - 14 Shots To The Dome"
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:28 PM - 17 April, 2013
LMAO @ AKIEM trying to tie a bunch of different loose topics together...

Yes, I GREW UP on AM Radio, which made me LOVE Classic Rock. And YES, Barbara Striesand was ON that very station - Music Radio - WABC.

DID YOU listen to that growing up?

As a matter of fact, here's a link of it's history - you should read before you write...

www.musicradio77.com
AKIEM 8:37 PM - 17 April, 2013
didI listen to Barbara Strisand?

LMAO

fuck outta here - NO

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LMAO @ AKIEM trying to tie a bunch of different loose topics together...

Yes, I GREW UP on AM Radio, which made me LOVE Classic Rock. And YES, Barbara Striesand was ON that very station - Music Radio - WABC.

DID YOU listen to that growing up?

As a matter of fact, here's a link of it's history - you should read before you write...

www.musicradio77.com


stopped reading at "The Greatest Top Forty Music Radio Station of All Time!"
CMOS 8:41 PM - 17 April, 2013
Yall got diarhea of the keyboard.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:41 PM - 17 April, 2013
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yo Barbara Streissand is NOT classic rock wtf jonny lol

Its edm, ask atrak
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:47 PM - 17 April, 2013
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On his debut release, in amongst the hard tracks he had I Want You & I Can Give You More.

Barney The Dinosaur talking drivel again.


And HERE goes UNDERDOG again...

Nobody was listening to "I Want You" and "I Can Give You More", oh wait, I'm sure you considered those "B" sides, so THOSE were just the jams that blew up on the low, that all the "Underground" cats know about, and didn't have mass appeal....

In other words, when LL put out a "Slow" joint, the first song people think of is "I Want You"...

smh.
AKIEM 8:53 PM - 17 April, 2013
^ 0¢ ^
DJ Alkemy 8:54 PM - 17 April, 2013
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On his debut release, in amongst the hard tracks he had I Want You & I Can Give You More.

Barney The Dinosaur talking drivel again.


And HERE goes UNDERDOG again...

Nobody was listening to "I Want You" and "I Can Give You More", oh wait, I'm sure you considered those "B" sides, so THOSE were just the jams that blew up on the low, that all the "Underground" cats know about, and didn't have mass appeal....

In other words, when LL put out a "Slow" joint, the first song people think of is "I Want You"...

smh.


The point is that LL always had tracks for the ladies. The clue is in his name.

Im off to get a tracklist off that radio show website you put a link up from. Get me some classic Rock :-)
AKIEM 8:56 PM - 17 April, 2013
LL Cool J - "I Need Love" first Number 1 Hit, Second LP




delusion
DJ DisGrace 8:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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stopped reading at "The Greatest Top Forty Music Radio Station of All Time!"

It's been established that Johnny only listened to radio singles. Never went further digging for albums and other goodies.

In defence of Johnny and his "classic rock".... My guess is that anything in the 70s not classified as "disco" or "funk'soul" was called "rock" at the time. This included Barbara Streisand, Abba, Billy Joel, and the likes.

Fast forward 40 years, and that same "rock" is now divided into "classic" and "soft" rock. "Classic" rock is now all the "hard" rock songs from that era, nd "soft rock" is all the other "pop" that was released at the same time.

Johhny, in his stubborn ways, assumes that it's still referred to as "classic" because it's old, regardless of it being "hard" or "soft" (nm). "Classic Rock" is now regarded as the "hard rock" that was released during the 70s, not the other swill released at the same time, that they happened to play on the same AM radio station.

One of the only english radio stations where I grew up was called WEZF. They played all the 70s tracks that weren't "hard rock" (i.e. no guitar solos: Barbara Streisand, Billy Joel, Lionel Ritchie, Pat Benetar). So you could say it was a "rock" station, but by no means was it the "classic rock" we are talking about here.

en.wikipedia.org
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:13 PM - 17 April, 2013
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On his debut release, in amongst the hard tracks he had I Want You & I Can Give You More.

Barney The Dinosaur talking drivel again.


And HERE goes UNDERDOG again...

Nobody was listening to "I Want You" and "I Can Give You More", oh wait, I'm sure you considered those "B" sides, so THOSE were just the jams that blew up on the low, that all the "Underground" cats know about, and didn't have mass appeal....

In other words, when LL put out a "Slow" joint, the first song people think of is "I Want You"...

smh.


The point is that LL always had tracks for the ladies. The clue is in his name.

Im off to get a tracklist off that radio show website you put a link up from. Get me some classic Rock :-)


Like I said, when he CAME OUT, he was focused on being a Battle MC.

That's what he was KNOWN FOR.

He then capitalized on his "Ladies Love Cool J" thingy later...

Y'all slow.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:16 PM - 17 April, 2013
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stopped reading at "The Greatest Top Forty Music Radio Station of All Time!"

It's been established that Johnny only listened to radio singles. Never went further digging for albums and other goodies.

In defence of Johnny and his "classic rock".... My guess is that anything in the 70s not classified as "disco" or "funk'soul" was called "rock" at the time. This included Barbara Streisand, Abba, Billy Joel, and the likes.

Fast forward 40 years, and that same "rock" is now divided into "classic" and "soft" rock. "Classic" rock is now all the "hard" rock songs from that era, nd "soft rock" is all the other "pop" that was released at the same time.

Johhny, in his stubborn ways, assumes that it's still referred to as "classic" because it's old, regardless of it being "hard" or "soft" (nm). "Classic Rock" is now regarded as the "hard rock" that was released during the 70s, not the other swill released at the same time, that they happened to play on the same AM radio station.

One of the only english radio stations where I grew up was called WEZF. They played all the 70s tracks that weren't "hard rock" (i.e. no guitar solos: Barbara Streisand, Billy Joel, Lionel Ritchie, Pat Benetar). So you could say it was a "rock" station, but by no means was it the "classic rock" we are talking about here.

en.wikipedia.org


IS THAT what the problem is?

That what "I" consider "Classic" Rock has a "New" meaning today, or as you say, was "re-dubbed" Soft Rock?

It's THAT simple?

I kept TELLING y'all I was listening to this stuff in the 70's....

But I guess it goes along the lines of when someone refers to "Classic" HipHop, and they say something like Tribe or Biggie, and I'm thinking Audio Two....
DJ Alkemy 9:17 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Like I said, when he CAME OUT, he was focused on being a Battle MC.

That's what he was KNOWN FOR.

He then capitalized on his "Ladies Love Cool J" thingy later...


What was his SECOND single?
djaction 9:22 PM - 17 April, 2013
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LMAO @ AKIEM trying to tie a bunch of different loose topics together...

Yes, I GREW UP on AM Radio, which made me LOVE Classic Rock. And YES, Barbara Striesand was ON that very station - Music Radio - WABC.

DID YOU listen to that growing up?

As a matter of fact, here's a link of it's history - you should read before you write...

www.musicradio77.com



lol I'm surprised AKIEM hasn't made a R.I.P. thread to jimmysl3 yet. that post right there should be the end of the thread. Barbara Streissand as Classic Rock LMAO
DJ DisGrace 9:22 PM - 17 April, 2013
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IS THAT what the problem is?

That what "I" consider "Classic" Rock has a "New" meaning today, or as you say, was "re-dubbed" Soft Rock?

It's THAT simple?

Yup....

From that wiki entry: "primarily focusing on the hard rock genre that peaked in popularity in the 1970s", which is why we list Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, and are offended when you drop Abba or Barbara Streisand into the list.

It was "redubbed" in 1983 LOL, do try to keep up!

"In 1983 program director Paul Christy designed a format which played only early album rock, from the 1960s and early 1970s, without any current music or Top 40 material at all. KRBE was the first station to use the term "classic rock" on the air"
AKIEM 9:24 PM - 17 April, 2013
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stopped reading at "The Greatest Top Forty Music Radio Station of All Time!"

It's been established that Johnny only listened to radio singles. Never went further digging for albums and other goodies.

In defence of Johnny and his "classic rock".... My guess is that anything in the 70s not classified as "disco" or "funk'soul" was called "rock" at the time. This included Barbara Streisand, Abba, Billy Joel, and the likes.

Fast forward 40 years, and that same "rock" is now divided into "classic" and "soft" rock. "Classic" rock is now all the "hard" rock songs from that era, nd "soft rock" is all the other "pop" that was released at the same time.

Johhny, in his stubborn ways, assumes that it's still referred to as "classic" because it's old, regardless of it being "hard" or "soft" (nm). "Classic Rock" is now regarded as the "hard rock" that was released during the 70s, not the other swill released at the same time, that they happened to play on the same AM radio station.

One of the only english radio stations where I grew up was called WEZF. They played all the 70s tracks that weren't "hard rock" (i.e. no guitar solos: Barbara Streisand, Billy Joel, Lionel Ritchie, Pat Benetar). So you could say it was a "rock" station, but by no means was it the "classic rock" we are talking about here.

en.wikipedia.org


IS THAT what the problem is?

That what "I" consider "Classic" Rock has a "New" meaning today, or as you say, was "re-dubbed" Soft Rock?

It's THAT simple?

I kept TELLING y'all I was listening to this stuff in the 70's....

But I guess it goes along the lines of when someone refers to "Classic" HipHop, and they say something like Tribe or Biggie, and I'm thinking Audio Two....





ha - no



Barbra Strisand was never considered ANY kind of "rock" by ANYONE.

She was always "POP" (show tunes and shit) later known as Adult Contemporary. And POP predates "ROCK" which had not yet "emerged" from R&B/Country when it was established.
AKIEM 9:27 PM - 17 April, 2013
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IS THAT what the problem is?

That what "I" consider "Classic" Rock has a "New" meaning today, or as you say, was "re-dubbed" Soft Rock?

It's THAT simple?

Yup....

From that wiki entry: "primarily focusing on the hard rock genre that peaked in popularity in the 1970s", which is why we list Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, and are offended when you drop Abba or Barbara Streisand into the list.

It was "redubbed" in 1983 LOL, do try to keep up!

"In 1983 program director Paul Christy designed a format which played only early album rock, from the 1960s and early 1970s, without any current music or Top 40 material at all. KRBE was the first station to use the term "classic rock" on the air"



only Barbra Strisand was NEVER considered any sort of "rock" in the first place - just Traditional Pop

"She is one of the most commercially and critically successful entertainers in modern entertainment history, with more than 71.5 million albums shipped in the United States and 140 million records sold worldwide.[5][6][7] She is the best-selling female artist on the Recording Industry Association of America's (RIAA) Top Selling Album Artists list, the only female recording artist in the top ten, and the only artist outside of the rock and roll genre."
en.wikipedia.org
AKIEM 9:29 PM - 17 April, 2013
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LMAO @ AKIEM trying to tie a bunch of different loose topics together...

Yes, I GREW UP on AM Radio, which made me LOVE Classic Rock. And YES, Barbara Striesand was ON that very station - Music Radio - WABC.

DID YOU listen to that growing up?

As a matter of fact, here's a link of it's history - you should read before you write...

www.musicradio77.com



lol I'm surprised AKIEM hasn't made a R.I.P. thread to jimmysl3 yet. that post right there should be the end of the thread. Barbara Streissand as Classic Rock LMAO



JM has been murdered MAAAAAAANY times - no use in a RIP - some type of zombie or something
DJ DisGrace 9:39 PM - 17 April, 2013
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and the only artist outside of the rock and roll genre

LOL

That makes it official.

I just assumed that anything outside of funk/soul or disco back in the day was just lumped together as "rock", until they came up with A/C. Even then, I still had my doubts about B.S.
Mike_P 9:40 PM - 17 April, 2013
DisGrace that is a stretch and if it were an average joe we were talking about, then I would be more understanding. But this is a DJ we're talking about here. AND said DJ had never heard of Roger Troutman, doesn't give Cut Chemist any respect and thinks that there hasn't been any notable hip hop released since Eminem. Smh. It's time to close the books on ole Jonny_NoCred.
DJ Alkemy 9:42 PM - 17 April, 2013
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DisGrace that is a stretch and if it were an average joe we were talking about, then I would be more understanding. But this is a DJ we're talking about here. AND said DJ had never heard of Roger Troutman, doesn't give Cut Chemist any respect and thinks that there hasn't been any notable hip hop released since Eminem. Smh. It's time to close the books on ole Jonny_NoCred.


Where do I sign?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:53 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Like I said, when he CAME OUT, he was focused on being a Battle MC.

That's what he was KNOWN FOR.

He then capitalized on his "Ladies Love Cool J" thingy later...


What was his SECOND single?


I'm sure you mean UNDERGROUND single....

smh...
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:54 PM - 17 April, 2013
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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lol I'm surprised AKIEM hasn't made a R.I.P. thread to jimmysl3 yet. that post right there should be the end of the thread. Barbara Streissand as Classic Rock LMAO


Are you another one on my nuts? Are you jockying for The_Black_One's spot?

Lately you keep my name in your mouth....you swallow much?

Like I said - I listened to CLASSIC ROCK (I guess as it was dubbed back THEN IN THE 70's on WABC), and YES she was on there....

But yeah Action, you seem to be hovering around me a lot lately.....

U lonely or sumphin man? or are you riding for The_Fake_One?
DJ Alkemy 9:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Like I said, when he CAME OUT, he was focused on being a Battle MC.

That's what he was KNOWN FOR.

He then capitalized on his "Ladies Love Cool J" thingy later...


What was his SECOND single?


I'm sure you mean UNDERGROUND single....

smh...


Nope. Stop shaking your head and open your eyes.

His second single was I Can Give You More.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:00 PM - 17 April, 2013
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JM has been murdered MAAAAAAANY times - no use in a RIP - some type of zombie or something


****Blank Stare****

I KNOW you aren't the one talking about constantly rising from the dead...

From failed attempts at getting a job with Rane, to not knowing the "Order Of Operations"...

You act like you can be held up in a cabin and take on the LA PD....

Oh, wait....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:05 PM - 17 April, 2013
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DisGrace that is a stretch and if it were an average joe we were talking about, then I would be more understanding. But this is a DJ we're talking about here. AND said DJ had never heard of Roger Troutman, doesn't give Cut Chemist any respect and thinks that there hasn't been any notable hip hop released since Eminem. Smh. It's time to close the books on ole Jonny_NoCred.


That ain't no stretch, it's was what was played IN THE 70's idiot.

And just because I don't or didn't give YOUR idols that you may happen to know on a 1st name basis any immediate recognition, you've got a tear running down your cheek too?

C'mon man, y'all need to cut this Metroness OUT....

I didn't say I didn't give Cut Chemist "any" respect, I said I didn't HEAR OF HIM until this board, an NO he's not a DJ Hero to me, but you can swang on his nutz all day my man.

And I SAID there were no CLASSIC HIPHOP ALBUMS released since Biggie/Eminem, I said NOTHING about "Notable"....

Since when is "Notable" = "Classic"?

Talk about a stretch.....smmfh...

Y'all need to come to Jersey to learn your damn HipHop history that is RELEVANT...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:05 PM - 17 April, 2013
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His second single was I Can Give You More.


And????????
Mike_P 10:10 PM - 17 April, 2013
BAHAHAHA! So everything in the 70s was Rock now? Yep. It's time to put ole boy out to pasture. I dub thee Johnny_NoCred.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:11 PM - 17 April, 2013
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DisGrace that is a stretch and if it were an average joe we were talking about, then I would be more understanding. But this is a DJ we're talking about here. AND said DJ had never heard of Roger Troutman, doesn't give Cut Chemist any respect and thinks that there hasn't been any notable hip hop released since Eminem. Smh. It's time to close the books on ole Jonny_NoCred.


Where do I sign?


Ha, your pen ain't got enough ink to write me off son....

Ol' "B-Side" One Raggedy Turntable Havin' Fake Producer/DJ...

LMAO @ you making a song and not knowing the most FAMOUS scratch sample in the WORLD was from "Change The Beat", and you NOT knowing YOU YOURSELF were CURRENTLY using it...

NOW THAT'S some silly string *sh...
DJ Alkemy 10:11 PM - 17 April, 2013
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His second single was I Can Give You More.


And????????


Well for someone who is supposed to be a battle emcee but stumbled into releasing songs for the ladies, his second single was just for that said crowd.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:11 PM - 17 April, 2013
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BAHAHAHA! So everything in the 70s was Rock now? Yep. It's time to put ole boy out to pasture. I dub thee Johnny_NoCred.


No, I said THAT'S when I was LISTENING to it....

Again, you can't read well, can you?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:12 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well for someone who is supposed to be a battle emcee but stumbled into releasing songs for the ladies, his second single was just for that said crowd.


And HOW many ladies paid attention to it?
DJ Alkemy 10:13 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And I SAID there were no CLASSIC HIPHOP ALBUMS released since Biggie/Eminem


How are we supposed to tell you about classic hip-hop albums when you only know stuff that has a big commercial impact?
Mike_P 10:13 PM - 17 April, 2013
Everybody back up! He's tailspinning!

It's ok NoCred, we're all here to help you. This is a safe place. No one's going to hurt you...
DJ Alkemy 10:14 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well for someone who is supposed to be a battle emcee but stumbled into releasing songs for the ladies, his second single was just for that said crowd.


And HOW many ladies paid attention to it?


Not the point. it was established in his career at an early stage that this was gonna be a viable avanue for him
AKIEM 10:15 PM - 17 April, 2013
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JM has been murdered MAAAAAAANY times - no use in a RIP - some type of zombie or something


****Blank Stare****

I KNOW you aren't the one talking about constantly rising from the dead...

From failed attempts at getting a job with Rane, to not knowing the "Order Of Operations"...

You act like you can be held up in a cabin and take on the LA PD....

Oh, wait....



LMAO - when did I try to get a job at Rane?
(this dude always resorts to just plain lies and shit)

LAPD - attacking a cabin? Oh, wait... you were the one who believes Dorner was perfectly sane and understandable - if anyone on some workplace shooting run hide in a cabin its you fam.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:15 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And I SAID there were no CLASSIC HIPHOP ALBUMS released since Biggie/Eminem


How are we supposed to tell you about classic hip-hop albums when you only know stuff that has a big commercial impact?


So we're now have to stipulate "Commercial" Classic HipHop Albums vs "Underground" Classic Hip Hop....

Is THAT what you're saying?
DJ Alkemy 10:16 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And I SAID there were no CLASSIC HIPHOP ALBUMS released since Biggie/Eminem


How are we supposed to tell you about classic hip-hop albums when you only know stuff that has a big commercial impact?


So we're now have to stipulate "Commercial" Classic HipHop Albums vs "Underground" Classic Hip Hop....

Is THAT what you're saying?


Nope. just plain classic. your the one who always brings up this underground tag
AKIEM 10:18 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well for someone who is supposed to be a battle emcee but stumbled into releasing songs for the ladies, his second single was just for that said crowd.


And HOW many ladies paid attention to it?



its called delusion

here he will confuse how people perceive a record with what the artists intention was.

HE perceived LL was only a battle MC therefore sold out when HE noticed LL made song for ladies.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:19 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well for someone who is supposed to be a battle emcee but stumbled into releasing songs for the ladies, his second single was just for that said crowd.


And HOW many ladies paid attention to it?


Not the point. it was established in his career at an early stage that this was gonna be a viable avanue for him


NOT IF NONE OF THE "LADIES" PAID ATTENTION TO IT!!!

LMAO!!!

How did NOT getting recognition from the ladies in reference to "I Can Give You More", establish that going after the ladies was going to be a "viable avenue" for him?

lmao!

You JUST said the chicks didn't PAY ATTENTION to that track, but HE KNEW he'd blow up big because his target audience (per that song) DIDN'T take to it....

Yeah, you're DEFINATELY on that 'B" Side Make a Wish Foundation..

As a matter of Fact...

















YOU DJ SO BAD, that you only OWN CV's with a "B" Side....

LMAOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:20 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Everybody back up! He's tailspinning!

It's ok NoCred, we're all here to help you. This is a safe place. No one's going to hurt you...


ummm...no.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:20 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Nope. just plain classic. your the one who always brings up this underground tag


Oh, ok...so now there are no "Standards" to Classics, now ...right?
Mike_P 10:21 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Everybody back up! He's tailspinning!

It's ok NoCred, we're all here to help you. This is a safe place. No one's going to hurt you...


ummm...no.

safe place.....safe place......shhhhhhh
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:21 PM - 17 April, 2013
There's NO DIFFERENCE between an Underground Classic and a "Commericial" Classic ...is THAT what you're saying?
DJ Alkemy 10:22 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well for someone who is supposed to be a battle emcee but stumbled into releasing songs for the ladies, his second single was just for that said crowd.


And HOW many ladies paid attention to it?


Not the point. it was established in his career at an early stage that this was gonna be a viable avanue for him


NOT IF NONE OF THE "LADIES" PAID ATTENTION TO IT!!!

LMAO!!!

How did NOT getting recognition from the ladies in reference to "I Can Give You More", establish that going after the ladies was going to be a "viable avenue" for him?

lmao!

You JUST said the chicks didn't PAY ATTENTION to that track, but HE KNEW he'd blow up big because his target audience (per that song) DIDN'T take to it....

Yeah, you're DEFINATELY on that 'B" Side Make a Wish Foundation..

As a matter of Fact...

















YOU DJ SO BAD, that you only OWN CV's with a "B" Side....

LMAOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well since no ladies paid attention to that single you would think that the viable avenue wouldnt be best pursued. WRONG. The very next year....I Need Love.

Johnny, this is painful (but fun)
DJ Alkemy 10:24 PM - 17 April, 2013
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There's NO DIFFERENCE between an Underground Classic and a "Commericial" Classic ...is THAT what you're saying?


Sales wise of course. But how many classic albums, of ANY genre were released to little fanfare.

Your so deluded its getting to a point where your circling around points, backtracking and generally sounding like you have lost your marbles Barney.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:24 PM - 17 April, 2013
Man, it's THREE of you...

Y'all should be able to do better than THIS.....
DJ Alkemy 10:25 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Man, it's THREE of you...

Y'all should be able to do better than THIS.....


It aint a ganging up thing here. Its 3 people trying to get through to someone who is talking BS on a HUUUUGE scale.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:27 PM - 17 April, 2013
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There's NO DIFFERENCE between an Underground Classic and a "Commericial" Classic ...is THAT what you're saying?


Sales wise of course. But how many classic albums, of ANY genre were released to little fanfare.

Your so deluded its getting to a point where your circling around points, backtracking and generally sounding like you have lost your marbles Barney.


See, this is some SIMPLE *ISH...

Rakim, Kane, LL, BIG and KRS all released CLASSIC ALBUMS...right?

But your argument is that there are "Underground" Classic Albums that can hold a candle to those mentioned above...

BUT that they just never got "Commercial" exposure....

So, Rakim, Kane, LL, BIG and KRS were NEVER "Underground"?
DJ Alkemy 10:29 PM - 17 April, 2013
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There's NO DIFFERENCE between an Underground Classic and a "Commericial" Classic ...is THAT what you're saying?


Sales wise of course. But how many classic albums, of ANY genre were released to little fanfare.

Your so deluded its getting to a point where your circling around points, backtracking and generally sounding like you have lost your marbles Barney.


See, this is some SIMPLE *ISH...

Rakim, Kane, LL, BIG and KRS all released CLASSIC ALBUMS...right?

But your argument is that there are "Underground" Classic Albums that can hold a candle to those mentioned above...

BUT that they just never got "Commercial" exposure....

So, Rakim, Kane, LL, BIG and KRS were NEVER "Underground"?


That dont even make sense. The simple way of putting it is....WHERE THERE ANY CLASSIC ALBUMS RELEASED AFTER BIG & PUN.....Answer.

Hell yes.

Any sidetracks, circling around points etc is gonna be called "doing a barney" from now on in.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:30 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Man, it's THREE of you...

Y'all should be able to do better than THIS.....


It aint a ganging up thing here. Its 3 people trying to get through to someone who is talking BS on a HUUUUGE scale.


Y'all need to get your facts in better shape then, because you're ill-informed, and thank you for taking my opinion as something that is affecting your life on such a HUUUUGGEE scale...

That means a lot to me.

Well, I guess that's just how I roll, after seeing that AKIEM was holding on DEARLY to that whole LL love song thing for YEARS, and had those shortcuts and LANKS ready to go...

LMAO...

The power to control one's emotions over the Internet is Astounding - DJ Johnny M
DJ Alkemy 10:30 PM - 17 April, 2013
Big & Em*
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:32 PM - 17 April, 2013
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That dont even make sense. The simple way of putting it is....WHERE THERE ANY CLASSIC ALBUMS RELEASED AFTER BIG & PUN.....Answer.

Hell yes.

Any sidetracks, circling around points etc is gonna be called "doing a barney" from now on in.


Ok, you wanna throw PUN up in there, but we are getting away from the ORIGINAL argument of - WHICH MC'S HAVE COME OUT THAT CAN or COULD have hung with Kane, Rakim, Nas, LL, Biggie, or Em in their prime?
DJ Alkemy 10:32 PM - 17 April, 2013
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and thank you for taking my opinion as something that is affecting your life on such a HUUUUGGEE scale...

That means a lot to me.


It aint taking much out of my life to tell an old man that he is wrong over the internet. Im doing it while looking for some classic wax on ebay. They seem to be all out of Streisand & Abba though. SMDH!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:34 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well since no ladies paid attention to that single you would think that the viable avenue wouldnt be best pursued. WRONG. The very next year....I Need Love.

Johnny, this is painful (but fun)


So, you're basically saying he TRIED TWICE, and then on the 3rd go round, got a hit...

But in the MEANTIME, how many Battle Joints did he release while he was trying to "Get it together"?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:35 PM - 17 April, 2013
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It aint taking much out of my life to tell an old man that he is wrong over the internet. Im doing it while looking for some classic wax on ebay. They seem to be all out of Streisand & Abba though. SMDH!


Well, I know it's against forum rules, but I can hook you up...

Hell, I'd even send you a VINYL copy (Used) of Change The Beat, so you can TRUTHFULLY tell people you know what "Classic" samples you use in your OWN production....
DJ Alkemy 10:35 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well since no ladies paid attention to that single you would think that the viable avenue wouldnt be best pursued. WRONG. The very next year....I Need Love.

Johnny, this is painful (but fun)


So, you're basically saying he TRIED TWICE, and then on the 3rd go round, got a hit...

But in the MEANTIME, how many Battle Joints did he release while he was trying to "Get it together"?


Im saying he was ann awesome MC who made both battle hardened tracks and tracks for the ladies at the earliest stage of his career. Simple as that.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:36 PM - 17 April, 2013
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I dub thee Johnny_NoCred.


***Still waiting for this to catch on****

I'll be here all week...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:38 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Im saying he was ann awesome MC who made both battle hardened tracks and tracks for the ladies at the earliest stage of his career. Simple as that.


Oh, now you want to water it DOWN...

Of course...

And we go BACK to what I ORIGINALLY SAID -

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Like I said, he SOLD OUT to get those opportunities, and when I was younger, I didn't understand him abandoning the BattleGame like that..

As I grew older, and still saw him still relevant in the public eye, it finally made sense as to what he did...

That's why I say He SOLD OUT, but I'm NOT mad at that...

He caked out, made some movies, TV series, and is still chillin' today...
AKIEM 10:40 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Well, I guess that's just how I roll, after seeing that AKIEM was holding on DEARLY to that whole LL love song thing for YEARS, and had those shortcuts and LANKS ready to go...


Not at all - calling ABBA and Barbara Classic Rock - Never Having heard of Roger Troutman - REMINDED me that you think LL "sold out" by making songs for females. That shit was so stupid I just had to mention it.
DJ Alkemy 10:42 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Im saying he was ann awesome MC who made both battle hardened tracks and tracks for the ladies at the earliest stage of his career. Simple as that.


Oh, now you want to water it DOWN...

Of course...

And we go BACK to what I ORIGINALLY SAID -

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Like I said, he SOLD OUT to get those opportunities, and when I was younger, I didn't understand him abandoning the BattleGame like that..

As I grew older, and still saw him still relevant in the public eye, it finally made sense as to what he did...

That's why I say He SOLD OUT, but I'm NOT mad at that...

He caked out, made some movies, TV series, and is still chillin' today...


What are you talking about, water it down. I couldnt be more simple. He made tracks for the hard rocks and the ladies from the get go. Its just so painfully obvious, my point.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:46 PM - 17 April, 2013
But I'll do you one better Mr. Super "Underground" producer...

That's like you put together a HipHop album, 9 tracks are hard Rap joints, 1 is an EDM joint.

Everybody digs the Rap joints.

As a matter of fact they like 7 of the 9 Rap jawns...

Then you put out a 2nd Album, same forumula - 9 Rap joints - 1 EDM...

Everybody digs 5 of the rap joints, BUT the 1 EDM joint is KNOCKIN...

Then you start tellin' folks that you meant to corner the EDM market from the door....
DJ Alkemy 10:48 PM - 17 April, 2013
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But I'll do you one better Mr. Super "Underground" producer...

That's like you put together a HipHop album, 9 tracks are hard Rap joints, 1 is an EDM joint.

Everybody digs the Rap joints.

As a matter of fact they like 7 of the 9 Rap jawns...

Then you put out a 2nd Album, same forumula - 9 Rap joints - 1 EDM...

Everybody digs 5 of the rap joints, BUT the 1 EDM joint is KNOCKIN...

Then you start tellin' folks that you meant to corner the EDM market from the door....


Not at all. Its basically covering the few bases that an MC with Mic skills and a 6 pack has to LOL
Mike_P 10:49 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Man, it's THREE of you...

Y'all should be able to do better than THIS.....


It aint a ganging up thing here. Its 3 people trying to get through to someone who is talking BS on a HUUUUGE scale.


Y'all need to get your facts in better shape then, because you're ill-informed, and thank you for taking my opinion as something that is affecting your life on such a HUUUUGGEE scale...

That means a lot to me.

Well, I guess that's just how I roll, after seeing that AKIEM was holding on DEARLY to that whole LL love song thing for YEARS, and had those shortcuts and LANKS ready to go...

LMAO...

The power to control one's emotions over the Internet is Astounding - DJ Johnny No Cred

It's called an intervention. lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:49 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Not at all - calling ABBA and Barbara Classic Rock

They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?

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Never Having heard of Roger Troutman


No, I knew of him under the name ZAPP...Again....

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REMINDED me that I used to loose sleep at night and take drugs because you got under my skin so bad by saying that you think LL "sold out" by making songs for females. That shit was so stupid I just had to mention it.


Dude, I'm sorry if I struck a nerve...

Won't happen again.
AKIEM 10:49 PM - 17 April, 2013
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But I'll do you one better Mr. Super "Underground" producer...

That's like you put together a HipHop album, 9 tracks are hard Rap joints, 1 is an EDM joint.

Everybody digs the Rap joints.

As a matter of fact they like 7 of the 9 Rap jawns...

Then you put out a 2nd Album, same forumula - 9 Rap joints - 1 EDM...

Everybody digs 5 of the rap joints, BUT the 1 EDM joint is KNOCKIN...

Then you start tellin' folks that you meant to corner the EDM market from the door....


You forgot his name was EDM Fred and he went on to use the same formula for 10 albums.



that part that kills me is when I asked at what point LL "sold out", you said after Jack The Rapper -> Momma Said Knock You OUT. Then tried to revise it to -> 14 Shots To the DOME!!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:50 PM - 17 April, 2013
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It's called an intervention. lol


Y'all need to go to a huddle or something...
DJTorchmusic 10:50 PM - 17 April, 2013
Johnny,

Run for the hills Mah Man. Their only goal in here is to disrespect and discredit those who don't think like they do. They are upset because we questioned the validity of the claims that VH1 made about Cut Chemist being a Hip Hop Icon. Further they defended his "stripper music" comment by not only disrespecting us, but the majority of todays mainstream hip hop. I can safely say we had nicer comments to say about Cut Chemist than they did about the other rappers.

What they don't realize is many of todays rappers are not "thinking about these guys". The whole rappers disrespecting ladies thing is a bunch of BS. The Majority of Rap music has always been that way for over 20 years. I'm glad that Hip Hop has now a "broader" audience, but there's some things about African American Culture (where rap music started) people of other cultures may never understand.

When Black women feel insulted about a Rap Artists content, they don't complain and talk shit for days. They just listen to SOMETHING ELSE. That's why I mentioned NEO SOUL. Because that's where those people who are tired of the disrespectful Rap Lyrics go. Meanwhile others continue to complain about Rap music instead of just "changing the channel". That's like going to Macdonalds and complaining about the food when you could simply go a few blocks down to Fat Burger or something.

Many of the Rap Artists these guys respect rap over R&B (and in many cases, always have). If it's not the whole song it's a huge chunk of the sample. Ditty's Rap beats were 90% RnB/R&B samples. My point is, most of those uplifting lyrical geniuses now simply do guest sets on NEO SOUL albums because that's the vibe they always worked with.

END OF STORY
DJ Alkemy 10:51 PM - 17 April, 2013
He's back!!!!....still talking about Neo Soul too LMFAO
DJTorchmusic 10:52 PM - 17 April, 2013
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He's back!!!!...


Not for long...trust me.
Mike_P 10:53 PM - 17 April, 2013
Torch, Johnny may be senile, but even he don't agree with your wacky ass. I think you are certifiable.
DJ Alkemy 10:54 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Torch, Johnny may be senile, but even he don't agree with your wacky ass. I think you are certifiable.


heh heh heh.

I was gonna say.

Torch is like that guy on your team by default cause he got picked last.
DJ DisGrace 10:56 PM - 17 April, 2013
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They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?

"Classic Rock" was coined in 1983 in Houston
Mike_P 10:56 PM - 17 April, 2013
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there's some things about African American Culture (where rap music started) people of other cultures may never understand.

now who's the bigot? congrats! you have successfully learned the true meaning of the word.
DJTorchmusic 10:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
For you guys to TRULY UNDERSTAND why rap is the way it is, you would need a DEEP understanding on African American culture and YOU DON'T. It's not your fault and you're not obligated to. But, the issue your complaining about we already dealt with a long time ago when Snoop, NWA, etc was doin' they thing.
DJ DisGrace 10:57 PM - 17 April, 2013
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They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?

"Classic Rock" was coined in 1983 in Houston

I gave you enough credit that it probably was a "rock" station at the time
Mike_P 10:58 PM - 17 April, 2013
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For you guys to TRULY UNDERSTAND why rap is the way it is, you would need a DEEP understanding on African American culture and YOU DON'T. It's not your fault and you're not obligated to. But, the issue your complaining about we already dealt with a long time ago when Snoop, NWA, etc was doin' they thing.

bigot
DJTorchmusic 10:58 PM - 17 April, 2013
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there's some things about African American Culture (where rap music started) people of other cultures may never understand.

now who's the bigot? congrats! you have successfully learned the true meaning of the word.


Dumb reply. You just don't like the fact you "don't know every f**ckin thing".
DJ Alkemy 10:58 PM - 17 April, 2013
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For you guys to TRULY UNDERSTAND why rap is the way it is, you would need a DEEP understanding on African American culture and YOU DON'T. It's not your fault and you're not obligated to. But, the issue your complaining about we already dealt with a long time ago when Snoop, NWA, etc was doin' they thing.


MUST.....NOT.....DISSECT........
DJTorchmusic 10:59 PM - 17 April, 2013
Ok, Fellas, Back to work for me. Have fun being who you are.
Mike_P 11:00 PM - 17 April, 2013
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there's some things about African American Culture (where rap music started) people of other cultures may never understand.

now who's the bigot? congrats! you have successfully learned the true meaning of the word.


Dumb reply. You just don't like the fact you "don't know every f**ckin thing".

unlike you, i never claimed to know everything. lol
AKIEM 11:00 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Not at all - calling ABBA and Barbara Classic Rock

They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?


sure - I also went to your link which said "The greatest TOP 40 Station of ALL TIME!" or whatever and had no reason to read any further.

YOU were listening to a TOP40 station, obviously the play BS

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Never Having heard of Roger Troutman


No, I knew of him under the name ZAPP...Again....


EXACTLY
www.discogs.com
you never heard of this record


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REMINDED me that I used to loose sleep at night and take drugs because you got under my skin so bad by saying that you think LL "sold out" by making songs for females. That shit was so stupid I just had to mention it.


Dude, I'm sorry if I struck a nerve...

Won't happen again.


erm, I dont take drugs.

pretty sure you are off balance at this point because people are realizing the amount af cred you deserve is low. youve been trying to ride your age like its some wisdom -not

and now trying to say I was trying to work at Rane? mentioning Dorner. LMAO
DJ Alkemy 11:00 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Ok, Fellas, Back to work for me. Have fun being who you are.


Let me know how you get on with that impending big hit
DJTorchmusic 11:01 PM - 17 April, 2013
BTW, If I go to Russia , England, Africa, China, I'm not gonna judge and talk shit about their music. Because....IT'S THE MUSIC!!!
DJTorchmusic 11:02 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Ok, Fellas, Back to work for me. Have fun being who you are.


Let me know how you get on with that impending big hit


No big hits...just "wack beats" remember? As you put it?
DJTorchmusic 11:02 PM - 17 April, 2013
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BTW, If I go to Russia , England, Africa, China, I'm not gonna judge and talk shit about their music. Because....IT'S THE MUSIC!!!


*THEIR
AKIEM 11:03 PM - 17 April, 2013
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They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?

"Classic Rock" was coined in 1983 in Houston

I gave you enough credit that it probably was a "rock" station at the time


even though it was a Top40 station.
LOL





whats really funny is the way JM will die defending his ignorance or mistake instead of just say 'oh shit, I did not realize that'
DJ Alkemy 11:05 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Ok, Fellas, Back to work for me. Have fun being who you are.


Let me know how you get on with that impending big hit


No big hits...just "wack beats" remember? As you put it?


Only when you started talking like you were the bees knees my friend. Trying to give someone else pointers on their music when your need a hell of a lot more work.

If you did get a big hit I would be like "Damn, thats that crazy racist from the Serato forums"...but I would still think it sucked. You know why, its called an opinion. And if you did make a hit record you would have to deal with criticism of your record a LOT better than you deal with criticisms of others.
DJTorchmusic 11:17 PM - 17 April, 2013

And if you did make a hit record you would have to deal with criticism of your record a LOT better than you deal with criticisms of others.

I believe you were more in the "insult department". Also, since we're on "Race" here. If you freakin "bust into (disrespect)" a certain group of people for a long long time? People are you to think that you have an issue with "those people" no matter what color their skin. Whether you did it knowingly or not, THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS.
DJTorchmusic 11:18 PM - 17 April, 2013
*ARE GOING TO THINK
DJ Alkemy 11:19 PM - 17 April, 2013
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And if you did make a hit record you would have to deal with criticism of your record a LOT better than you deal with criticisms of others.


I was insulted why you got insulted by "rappers" who I think as of garbage, which is sir, my opinion.

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Also, since we're on "Race" here. If you freakin "bust into (disrespect)" a certain group of people for a long long time? People are you to think that you have an issue with "those people" no matter what color their skin. Whether you did it knowingly or not, THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS


Only to you, ya crazy bastard!
DJ Michael Basic 11:19 PM - 17 April, 2013
Is there a thread somewhere to discuss the master of the mix show?
DJ Alkemy 11:21 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Is there a thread somewhere to discuss the master of the mix show?


haha

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:50 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Torch, Johnny may be senile, but even he don't agree with your wacky ass. I think you are certifiable.


I may not AGREE with his thoughts of Lil' Wayne, but I RESPECT them...

lmao @ you putting words in my mouth....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:51 PM - 17 April, 2013
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They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?

"Classic Rock" was coined in 1983 in Houston


That's funny, I've been calling it that since the 70's...

Oh wait, maybe that was "Underground"....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:52 PM - 17 April, 2013
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there's some things about African American Culture (where rap music started) people of other cultures may never understand.

now who's the bigot? congrats! you have successfully learned the true meaning of the word.


Dumb reply. You just don't like the fact you "don't know every f**ckin thing".

unlike you, i never claimed to know everything. lol


No, you actually don't know ANYTHING...lmao.
DJ DisGrace 11:55 PM - 17 April, 2013
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They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?

"Classic Rock" was coined in 1983 in Houston


That's funny, I've been calling it that since the 70's...

Oh wait, maybe that was "Underground"....

How can it be "classic" if it was "current". That's an oxymoron.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:56 PM - 17 April, 2013
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erm, I dont take drugs.


Then THAT'S the problem...

There are a lot of good ones out there to help you through this man...


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pretty sure you are off balance at this point because people are realizing the amount af cred you deserve is low.


****Waiting for that one to gain traction too***

I'll be here all week....

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youve been trying to ride your age like its some wisdom -not


With Age comes Wisdom...Nuff said.

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and now trying to say I was trying to work at Rane? mentioning Dorner. LMAO


Yeah, I apologize, might set you off...

Been a lot of bombs going off around these parts lately...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:58 PM - 17 April, 2013
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They were on what was considered a CLASSIC Rock station at the time...

Don't you read Wikipedia?

"Classic Rock" was coined in 1983 in Houston


That's funny, I've been calling it that since the 70's...

Oh wait, maybe that was "Underground"....

How can it be "classic" if it was "current". That's an oxymoron.


A lot of the songs were LATE 60's, early 70's, then I discovered DISCO singles...

And ALBUM FM Rock on FM was out, so I always considered the former "Classic Rock".
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:59 PM - 17 April, 2013
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Is there a thread somewhere to discuss the master of the mix show?


We're getting back to that, I'm about finished with this lineup.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:00 AM - 18 April, 2013
BTW, that DJ Varja cat is an azz....but I wonder if it's for ratings...
DJ Alkemy 12:04 AM - 18 April, 2013
I aint seen the show yet so cant comment on Vajras demenour but ooowee,his DJ skills are hot to trot.I seriously gotta sidestep these damn IP locks.
DJ Alkemy 12:11 AM - 18 April, 2013
Love this funky set from him: Watchwww.youtube.com
Mike_P 12:12 AM - 18 April, 2013
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there's some things about African American Culture (where rap music started) people of other cultures may never understand.

now who's the bigot? congrats! you have successfully learned the true meaning of the word.


Dumb reply. You just don't like the fact you "don't know every f**ckin thing".

unlike you, i never claimed to know everything. lol


No, you actually don't know ANYTHING...lmao.

And yet I still know infinitely more than you. Lol. Senile old hag. Bye NoCred.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:27 AM - 18 April, 2013
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I aint seen the show yet so cant comment on Vajras demenour but ooowee,his DJ skills are hot to trot.I seriously gotta sidestep these damn IP locks.

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I aint seen the show yet so cant comment on Vajras demenour but ooowee,his DJ skills are hot to trot.I seriously gotta sidestep these damn IP locks.


CLASSIC SCRATCHING! On a Technics Mixer no less...

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ DisGrace 12:29 AM - 18 April, 2013
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And ALBUM FM Rock on FM was out, so I always considered the former "Classic Rock".

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But I guess it goes along the lines of when someone refers to "Classic" HipHop, and they say something like Tribe or Biggie,

hmmm
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:33 AM - 18 April, 2013
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And yet I still know infinitely more than you. Lol. Senile old hag. Bye NoCred.


Look, you need better staff writers - it's DJ Johnny No Cred, remember?

Oh, wait....YOU "dubbed" me that, but can't remember how to spell it....Senile anyone?

Man, y'all got GREAT material...

Oh, wait....didn't someone use "No Cred" before....?

Man, ORIGINALITY PLEASE....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:33 AM - 18 April, 2013
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And ALBUM FM Rock on FM was out, so I always considered the former "Classic Rock".


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But I guess it goes along the lines of when someone refers to "Classic" HipHop, and they say something like Tribe or Biggie,

hmmm


Yop.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:34 AM - 18 April, 2013
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lol I'm surprised AKIEM hasn't made a R.I.P. thread to jimmysl3 yet. that post right there should be the end of the thread. Barbara Streissand as Classic Rock LMAO


Are you another one on my nuts? Are you jockying for The_Black_One's spot?

Lately you keep my name in your mouth....you swallow much?

Like I said - I listened to CLASSIC ROCK (I guess as it was dubbed back THEN IN THE 70's on WABC), and YES she was on there....

But yeah Action, you seem to be hovering around me a lot lately.....

U lonely or sumphin man? or are you riding for The_Fake_One?



The last classic rock johnny heard was the one he through at jesus lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:34 AM - 18 April, 2013
This thread delivers......unfortunatley it delivers spam
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:36 AM - 18 April, 2013
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The last classic rock johnny heard was the one he through at jesus lol


Oh you came in here to help the 3 Stooges?

I'm sure there's a Ms. Bezzle undiscovered Twerk vid out there somewhere....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:37 AM - 18 April, 2013
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This thread delivers......unfortunatley it delivers spam


Dude, can I PLEASE REMOTELY install a Spell Check for you?
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:37 AM - 18 April, 2013
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Is there a thread somewhere to discuss the master of the mix show?

I bet someone from motm pops in and gets excited...holy fuck 1500 more posts in our thread since this mornin weve definatly got a buzz goin
DJ Alkemy 12:37 AM - 18 April, 2013
Yeah...we got back on track then Bam!...Rock at Jesus

heh heh heh

Anyway. Vajra is awesome at cutting, juggling etc and I seen him live once and he had that good balance between cutting and playing tracks.

I hate that we cant get the links in the UK...and that IP hack thing didn't work for me.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:39 AM - 18 April, 2013
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Yeah...we got back on track then Bam!...Rock at Jesus

heh heh heh

Anyway. Vajra is awesome at cutting, juggling etc and I seen him live once and he had that good balance between cutting and playing tracks.

I hate that we cant get the links in the UK...and that IP hack thing didn't work for me.


What you can't see the vids?
DJ Alkemy 12:41 AM - 18 April, 2013
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Yeah...we got back on track then Bam!...Rock at Jesus

heh heh heh

Anyway. Vajra is awesome at cutting, juggling etc and I seen him live once and he had that good balance between cutting and playing tracks.

I hate that we cant get the links in the UK...and that IP hack thing didn't work for me.


What you can't see the vids?


Only the few snippets they show on Youtube. When you go to watch the full episodes online its region blocked.
DJ Alkemy 12:41 AM - 18 April, 2013
The first two seasons I seen fine on Facebook.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:42 AM - 18 April, 2013
Oh, the Motm vids. I thought you meant YouTube.
DJ Alkemy 12:45 AM - 18 April, 2013
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Oh, the Motm vids. I thought you meant YouTube.


haha...No, we aint got it that bad in the UK LOL

This is ridiculous scratching from Vajra and a few others. Had to check if the vid was on hyper speed or something....Dayum:

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ Remy USA 1:10 AM - 18 April, 2013
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For you guys to TRULY UNDERSTAND why rap is the way it is, you would need a DEEP understanding on African American culture and YOU DON'T. It's not your fault and you're not obligated to. But, the issue your complaining about we already dealt with a long time ago when Snoop, NWA, etc was doin' they thing.


what culture do we need to understand
DJTorchmusic 1:21 AM - 18 April, 2013
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For you guys to TRULY UNDERSTAND why rap is the way it is, you would need a DEEP understanding on African American culture and YOU DON'T. It's not your fault and you're not obligated to. But, the issue your complaining about we already dealt with a long time ago when Snoop, NWA, etc was doin' they thing.


what culture do we need to understand


(calm blank stare)
DJTorchmusic 1:29 AM - 18 April, 2013
This is how an interview is supposed to go:

www.youtube.com

Which one of the DJs said "hip hop is not what I do"? I didn't watch the show.
DJTorchmusic 1:29 AM - 18 April, 2013
Trying my best to redirect this thread where it should be.
DJWORX 7:22 AM - 18 April, 2013
For those outside the US wanting to watch Master of The Mix to form their own opinion, use Firefox and the Modify Headers plugin.

cynicsunlimited.com

Just remember to hit the start button in the top left corner and leave this window open while watching.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:03 PM - 18 April, 2013
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This is how an interview is supposed to go:

www.youtube.com

Which one of the DJs said "hip hop is not what I do"? I didn't watch the show.

^lmfao hey kid capris in that case can you play some reggae
AKIEM 4:57 PM - 18 April, 2013
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erm, I dont take drugs.


Then THAT'S the problem...

There are a lot of good ones out there to help you through this man...


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pretty sure you are off balance at this point because people are realizing the amount af cred you deserve is low.


****Waiting for that one to gain traction too***

I'll be here all week....


easy - cat that thinks LL sold out when he STARTED making love songs (14 Shots) aint credible. Will Smith was never a rapper? = not credible

48 year old black dude never heard of Rogger Troutman = not credible

Thinks Barbara Strisand is classic rock = not credible


When I say I listen to Classic Rock Im talking about:

Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Doors, ZZ Top, Eagles, CCR, Chicago, Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oister Cult, Heart, Pink Floyd, Lynard Skinard, Rush, Stix or into the 80s Def Lepard, Van Halen, Bon Jovi or even some Beatles or Police. = credible


this dude chooses Barbara Strisand over Jimi Hendrix = LOLs




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youve been trying to ride your age like its some wisdom -not


With Age comes Wisdom...Nuff said.


always with the wisdom before knowledge this one

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and now trying to say I was trying to work at Rane? mentioning Dorner. LMAO


Yeah, I apologize, might set you off...

Been a lot of bombs going off around these parts lately...


Bombs? Really, dont you live near....... hole up.

If anyone looks like the dude who is going to be 'set off' its the one whos been listening to Show Tunes and shit covering it up by calling it "Classic Rock". There is nothing 'rock' about Barbara Strisand. This dude obviously is dealing with some inner turmoils, Bette Midler, Barry Manalow, Lisa Minalli - the inner sweetness comes out. Type of dude sporting some panties covering up by calling them 'briefs'. "Oh, Ive been calling them 'briefs' for years". This cat be smoking virgina slims and shit on his smoke break. He got a Lavander magazine covered by the Source - cue Watchwww.youtube.com cat be in the mirror lip syncing with putting on what he calls "chapstik". This dude was rocking spandex with no bike riding - 70s shorts, roller skates, knee hi socks and a soft pink and purple rabbit foot.

Aight let me stop the bullying - Johnny, you know its all fun and games right?


cat was talking about a Barbara Strisand sample - man I got the Gladys Knight version dun
Watchwww.youtube.com
Mike_P 5:11 PM - 18 April, 2013
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Type of dude sporting some panties covering up by calling them 'briefs'. "Oh, Ive been calling them 'briefs' for years".

Ahahahahaha!!!!!
Mike_P 5:15 PM - 18 April, 2013
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cat was talking about a Barbara Strisand sample - man I got the Gladys Knight version dun
Watchwww.youtube.com

Who the hell is Gladys Knight??? I only know of the Pips!!!
djaction 5:17 PM - 18 April, 2013
[qupte]If anyone looks like the dude who is going to be 'set off' its the one whos been listening to Show Tunes and shit covering it up by calling it "Classic Rock". There is nothing 'rock' about Barbara Strisand. This dude obviously is dealing with some inner turmoils, Bette Midler, Barry Manalow, Lisa Minalli - the inner sweetness comes out. Type of dude sporting some panties covering up by calling them 'briefs'. "Oh, Ive been calling them 'briefs' for years". This cat be smoking virgina slims and shit on his smoke break. He got a Lavander magazine covered by the Source - cue Watchwww.youtube.com cat be in the mirror lip syncing with putting on what he calls "chapstik". This dude was rocking spandex with no bike riding - 70s shorts, roller skates, knee hi socks and a soft pink and purple rabbit foot.


quote of the year.

jimmyslv3 = Buffalo Bill ?
djaction 5:17 PM - 18 April, 2013
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If anyone looks like the dude who is going to be 'set off' its the one whos been listening to Show Tunes and shit covering it up by calling it "Classic Rock". There is nothing 'rock' about Barbara Strisand. This dude obviously is dealing with some inner turmoils, Bette Midler, Barry Manalow, Lisa Minalli - the inner sweetness comes out. Type of dude sporting some panties covering up by calling them 'briefs'. "Oh, Ive been calling them 'briefs' for years". This cat be smoking virgina slims and shit on his smoke break. He got a Lavander magazine covered by the Source - cue Watchwww.youtube.com cat be in the mirror lip syncing with putting on what he calls "chapstik". This dude was rocking spandex with no bike riding - 70s shorts, roller skates, knee hi socks and a soft pink and purple rabbit foot.


quote of the year.

jimmyslv3 = Buffalo Bill ?
Funkytownstopsix 5:20 PM - 18 April, 2013
ON JAY-Z

All I know is this back when I was in the ARMY in Europe the first time I saw Jay-Z was with Jaz on a video www.bing.com hawian sofie and that was before the 90's I bet he wish he could take that back:).

After the two big's died(Pac & BIGGIE) he blew up, you don't blow up like he did just because no one is there he had to be on track to come up. People had to like him for his skills or else this conversation would be strictly about Nas. I just can't see why people would say he was given anything when he had been on the set for so long. Not that I am defending Jay-Z but I am defending his hard work and longevity in the game. Since 88 for me to 2013 that is 25 years you can't be on the set that long if your were given something but you can stay on the set if you earned it.

Why did little Wayne blow up,,,, That cat was a kid with cash money look how long he had to work before he blew up, and them boyz in the dirty south where putting in work and have a staple in Hip-HOP No Limit and Cash Money, UGK and Scarface. All I am saying is don't discount hard work. Yet for me Hip Hop has changed to listing to beats more so than the rap because the cat's today ain't saying nothing. Always talking bout riches, material shit and how bad they can do the bitches. We need more Heavy D, Rakims and KRS's in this world. Now I'm going to listen to some X-Clan Grandverblizer what time is it.
I'm off my box.... peace.
djaction 5:23 PM - 18 April, 2013
DJTorchmusic 7:17 PM - 18 April, 2013
Can we please try to salvage Kurve's thread?

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ON JAY-Z

All I know is this back when I was in the ARMY in Europe the first time I saw Jay-Z was with Jaz on a video www.bing.com hawian sofie and that was before the 90's I bet he wish he could take that back:).

After the two big's died(Pac & BIGGIE) he blew up, you don't blow up like he did just because no one is there he had to be on track to come up. People had to like him for his skills or else this conversation would be strictly about Nas. I just can't see why people would say he was given anything when he had been on the set for so long. Not that I am defending Jay-Z but I am defending his hard work and longevity in the game. Since 88 for me to 2013 that is 25 years you can't be on the set that long if your were given something but you can stay on the set if you earned it.

Why did little Wayne blow up,,,, That cat was a kid with cash money look how long he had to work before he blew up, and them boyz in the dirty south where putting in work and have a staple in Hip-HOP No Limit and Cash Money, UGK and Scarface. All I am saying is don't discount hard work. Yet for me Hip Hop has changed to listing to beats more so than the rap because the cat's today ain't saying nothing. Always talking bout riches, material shit and how bad they can do the bitches. We need more Heavy D, Rakims and KRS's in this world. Now I'm going to listen to some X-Clan Grandverblizer what time is it.
I'm off my box.... peace.


Well Said:

Decent talent, hard work will usually beat Great talent and no weak work ethic. In addition great business sense is a huge plus.

Luke (2live crew)
Master P
Dr. Dre
Lil Wayne
Diddy

Like or hate their music, they put in work.
DJTorchmusic 7:18 PM - 18 April, 2013
no weak work ethic. In addition great business sense is a huge plus.

I meant weak work ethic. not "no weak work ethic".
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:51 PM - 18 April, 2013
smh @ the 3 Stooges..

Moe - AKIEM
Curly - Mike_P
Larry - DJ Action

More later...
djaction 9:07 PM - 18 April, 2013
^lol nice!
Mike_P 9:07 PM - 18 April, 2013
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smh @ the 3 Stooges..

Moe - AKIEM
Curly - Mike_P
Larry - DJ Action

More later...

NoCred - Johnny
How does it feel to be the fourth stooge. Lol
DJ Michael Basic 9:07 PM - 18 April, 2013
Hey look...

I made you guys a thread so you can stop fucking this one up.

serato.com
9:52 PM, 18 Apr 2013
Discussion locked by ChrisD
Serato, Support
ChrisD 9:53 PM - 18 April, 2013
Too much ranting.

Move along please....