Dam how much u charge to dj. Complain all the time.

The price is fine for me O thou I'm sure I won't pay more then $1,800 for it

I think they should charge more.. less noobs w/ 62's = a good thing

This mixer will hit the streets at the MAP price, but I'm sure dealers will take $150 to $250 off. Just ask.

blame the federal reserve for debasing the dolla so much since 2008.

Its your money thats too low ;)

You gotta pay to play! Or wait for a used one on Craigslist like a year from now; which is what I like to do.

Nah - price of them speakers you be buying is excessively high - the 62 should be chump change for you :)

I been asking around and everyone wants to sell it at Map price, seriously that's lame...

There are lots of people who will want to be the first to have one, so yeah it makes sense to sell it @ map price now - from a business standpoint..

Ima wait a lil while to purchase mine prolly at the end of the year is when I will purchase mine. It would be nice to have it the day it drops. If you bring 1800 in cash to the register I don't know a single retailer that will walk away from the cash

did anyone call agiprodj if they will sell it a bit lower?

The rent is too damn high

sell your existing gear to cut the cash you have to pay towards it there you go theres an effective solution

Or save up... By then you can see if there are any issues that may come from first batch

This does not appear to be going well....:(

What I wrote in a different thread:

Prices: Rane is the only major DJ-equipment manufacturer that hasn't "offshored" or "outsourced" their manufacturing. They also offer way better service and support than any other DJ equipment manufacturer. They also use better-grade internal components than most other manufacturers (including Pioneer). All of those things cost money.

You get what you pay for, solid products.

It's a Rane - every Rane I've owned has been a tank.
Also remember it does have SL built in so lets say you buy an Empath ($999) SL2 (probably get one for 400-500) and a midi controller (100) and some dicers (100) you are basically the price of a 62 ..........
I paid 1600 for my empath years ago - sold it after 4 years for 900 and bought a 57 for 1100. rane are like 1200's they hold their value and last forever.

some of the mp22's I used to play on had the shit beat out of them but still sounded great and worked even after drinks spilled on them and other stupid stuff.

So you are thinking they are going to read this thread, throw a year or more of R&D out the door and redesign it because you think it's too expensive. Probably not going to happen. Just buy a 57.

Talk to z-trip. He was the one that had a major part of the design and features.

I own a 57 and I would never expect them to do any of the things you said. Lets try to be realistic here.

The only way to lower the price would be to manufacture overseas.

You may have to be content with your 57 or buy used in a year or so.

I think you're. Misunderstanding were in going here.

NO problems here with the pricing! Rane is quality, customer service is exceptional

Huh?

why do ferrari's cost so damn much compared to a damn hyundai?
Why is the new sixty eight so expensive compared to american audio?

Exacly go get a pyle audio mixer if you want cheap

Now you're. Just being silly...:)

could try to organize a group buy. heck for some of us loyal customers we should even get a serato forum discount.

Sell your 57...BAM! $900 off the price.

I do believe it's way too expensive what would you expect with SL3 built in?

I thought this thread was gonna be about the height of the mixer.

i wish people would stop saying that it's an sl3 built in - it's obviously more advanced than that seeing as the SL3 was developed 2 years ago...

24 bit drivers..def sounds like an SL3 to me

it's 32 bit floating point actually.

dealer cost is 1500 and change on the 62

i have to agree that at 2k the 62 is overpriced, especially when the djm-t1 is now 1k,
they should have had it at 1599 at the most as it's just a 57 with a new soundcard and a few more buttons

Me too...I was actually concerned about that.
Suprised there weren't a bunch of threads of of "I own a 57 and now you've released the 6x, I demand you trade me up!" like there was when the SL-3 came out.

+1

so how many inches high is this mixer?
I'm tall so I dont really mind, never too high for me, I might even thank Rane actually because of less back pain from bending over all night.

New Sound card.
Dual USB ports.
New internal effects processor.
Newly designed screen for effects processor.
Newly designed buttons and triggering system.
Manufactured in the USA vs Malaysia (Pioneer)
3 year warranty.
Great tech support team.

Seems like there is a lot more going on that justifies the price.

To be at the forefront of technology costs.

30 years ago when VHS video players came out my parents bought one that cost £600. That would be prob £1500 nowadays. To watch movies....lol

You should be happy folks are out there making these great pieces of tech. It aint easy and if you want to be at the forefront(tech wize) then you better be prepared to spend the cash or wait a few years for it to become"older".

For peeps that cant afford these new ones im sure you will see a price drop on the likes of the 57 so grab a good bargain on one of them.

so whats groundbreaking thats in the new 62, nothing



it's not about not being able to afford one it's about value for money which at 2000 in my opinion the 62 isn't worth it

Lot of updates in the Hardware! But the software development seems to stagnate!

Before i spend 2k on a new mixer i want to see development in the software.
Especially since Traktor is on the fast lane.....

if u think its not worth it that's fine, move along, dont buy it, and stop bitching simple huh. you dont hear me complaining about prices of Ferarri's.

your Ferarri arguement is a load of bollox, so using your analogy the djm-t1 is just as fast as the 62 but doesnt have a leather interior,

i'm in the market for a new mixer, i didn't want a 57 as it was going to be updated soon,
the 61 is a gimped version lacking buttons and crucial features,
the 62 is over priced and not worth 2k, and i would be all over it at 1500

with competition your ment to get better products and lower prices,
seeing as the djm-t1 just droped to 1k its very tempting and i think rane should look at the price point closely or they'll lose even more people to traktor,

I guess my question is what is the point of the 61? Would it be the same reasoning behind the SL2?

Cuz if it is.......

www.djjohnnym.com

wrong its not a 57 with a few more buttons. Its completely different whats up with you guys this mixer is dope. 2,000 is a bit steep but I dont see a dealer saying no to a guy with 16-1700 cash

i agree its a nice mixer but priced a little too high, and over here they usually convert the american price and add on a little more so I can see this being 2000 euro over here and they don't really negotiate on price either,

and how is it not a 57 with more buttons and a new soundcard, i really dont see what input ztrip had besides his colour scheme its like the rane guys got a 68 and said lets make this a 2 channel mixer

I know right this mixer does everything. I wanna sell my 700 and SL1 asap.

Id say these mixers are at forefront of dj tech, spec wise, not used them to see but i trust rane to deliver...if these arn't then what is? Id say having music streamed from pc to mixer all integrated in a quality built mixer(software, midi, fx all at once) is amazing and im VERY thankful to have access to this kind of gear......compared to when i spent £800/$1200 on a vestax pmc07(that is VERY basic compared to this) almost 10yrs ago then including inflation $2000 aint that bad.

Money is not what it was since 2008 when central banks started printing it like crazy...if you think this is bad you will get a shock at prices in the coming years.

Simple solution is to not buy it if you think its not value...i think it is value and if i still mixed 2 decks id be all over it....i got68 when it first came out and love it.

I hope to see the 61 going for 1100 use when its finally released and the 62 @ 1500 usd............
Just to compete with recently drop of the DJM T1

^^^^This

I wanna know can we record with any of these mixers thru the software?

Jesus christ the forum bitches for years for a new mixer and when one is delivered what do people do .....bitch,

Many 57 owners did not use the effects or the buttons.

It costs a butt load of money to redesign/engineer something. Trust me, I know from first hand experience how much it costs to redesign/engineer something. The company I work for does that and it's usually in the 6 figures and sometimes even 7 figures.

They probably also had to run life cycle analyses on those damn buttons to make sure they'd hold up to way more button presses then the average user can do.

That cost has to go somewhere and it gets put into the product.
I think it is light years ahead of the 57 and I was hoping for a 57 type upgrade, but the 61 is like a 56 with SL3 and the 62 is a 57 on steroids, or the 68's younger brother who go the better genes from the family.

Probably not. If you are on Scratchlive the DJM-T1 offers no benefit. You still need a scratchlive interface. This basically puts you in the same price range. If you are undecided on which DVS to buy then its something to consider.

dumb thread..

not everyone is entitled to be able to afford the best gear. if you can't afford it, save or buy something else. it's obviously not for you.

they already made a mixer that sells for the price of a 57.. it's the 57. if that's your price point, then you're already there.

Now you can get the 57's for under $900 used

To be honest, I wish the mixer cost $2500. This way not everyone could afford it. When the 57 came out everyone complained as well, BUT everyone has one.

If you can't afford it or don't like it, DON"T BUY IT.

I sold mine for $850. after 3 1/2 years I got my money's worth.

Anyone who thinks the 62 is just a 57 with a new sound card has either never used a 57, or never used the 57 or the software to even remotely close to it's potential and shouldn't bother with the 62 in the first place.

see it's fanboys like these that companies love who will drop anything for their product without question, also typical fanboy response about not being able to afford one because you question the price,

and besides the move to a better soundcard and a few more buttons it's a glorified 57, which is not a bad thing but with its closest rivial the djm-t1 at half the price you got to wonder what rane do be thinking from a buisness standpoint, if there happy with the marketshare they have now thats cool or they could do more aggressive pricing and really take it to them,

uh huh.

it's still not just a 57 "with more buttons." Have you even used a 57? It's got better UI for sure, better audio, better FX integration, better audio routing and of course the whole 2 usb thing. As a 57 user for 4 years, I can see this even without ever having used the mixer.

Is it expensive? Yes - but so was the 57 when it first dropped. Is it perfect? No, there are aspects that could be improved and it is missing a handful of key features (but less than the 57).

Just because some people actually think a product is good does not mean they are fanboys - especially when the "arguments" against the product are tenuous at best.

so your saying rane has been around all these years because of fanboys?

how about the fact that they are one of the best companies around. dj's who buy there products want the best. your forgetting that it's american made, not some cheap chinese labor product.

Then buy a DJM-T1 and call it a day.

I still don't see the DJM-T1 price drop as a realistic response to this thread. You still need a scratchlive interface. This adds anywhere from $400-$800 to the price. The T1 also has no internal effects. If anything I would be irritated in knowing the profit margin being made on this mixer before the price drop.

Also in regard to Pioneer, it costs $1600-$1800 in the USA for a CDJ-2000 but you can get a Denon DN-S3700 which is arguably a better player for half that price. Wouldn't this be the same situation? And the CDJs are still selling like hotcakes.

Ease up on the assumptions, this is not about entitlements or my financial status. I actually do quite well for myself an own alot of expensive gear. A lil research could have verified that but its not about that. Its about using our power as consumers to purchase a product at a price point that's beneficial to us while remaining fair to rane the company. Djs need to also be good business men an paying top dollar is neither smart or good business. I'm a Big rane fan but some of you have absolutely lost your minds wanting to pay as much as possible....smh

how much would you guys sell a third generation, 3 moth old rane ttm 57 for? im gonna get the 62 but if i dont like it im gonna send that baby back!!!!! lol

It's like 2 57s....but cheaper and combined together.

The T1 was $2000 before Rane's announcement. Is it Rane's fault Pioneer dropped the price due to poor sales and in an effort to steal 's thunder. I bet all of you complaining weren't lining up to buy a T1 when IT was $2000

I've payed alot of money for my system but I find deals an never pay top dollar.

Man I JUST bought a used 57 2 weeks ago...and Ill be selling them both off to get a 62...the 57 was $1,500 when I bought it...now theres new features...and added benefits to the 62...yeah they are pricey...but to get the best you gotta pay the best.

If you really feel the TTM is of equal quality so be it. But I have ZERO doubt that it costs (with a profit margin) a fair amount to produce this mixer...

Yes the price will drop 3-400 over the next couple years...but the LUXURY of getting proficient with this mixer will be more than worth it in that time period.

+1

Some ppl are upgrading mixers only and already have a serato interface .

Don't get me wrong msrp is cool , but not the price things normally go for .

Yes

Exactly you guys are bitching way to much, the mixer is dope if your a 57 owner you will want to get this. If you can afford to keep the 57 I say it will be a great back up to the 62

Then sell the interface to offset the cost of the mixer.

If the price on this website is true, they are ignoring the MAP, and I will mos def buy it at that price point.

www.livesoundandlights.com

I guarantee that site is not legit. No authorized dealers can post a price lower then the MAP. That price is also lower than dealer cost.

I don't believe it, but damn it would be nice. I just sold my 57 for $1100.

Theres not even a phone and if you Google the address its a construction place, Lmfao!! Nice try.......

WHen you go to pay, it only gives PayPal as an option. The PayPal recipient is: deliajdiaz@yahoo.com.

Looks a little suspect to me. THe final 'Checkout' button doesn't even work, only PayPal, LOL.

exactly. I guess those are bedroom dj's

If you can't afford it, than don't buy it. For the quality and functionality, it is well worth it. Complaining doesn't do anything, but makes you sound like a whiney baby. That is why there are companies like Numark and Gemini. They cater to the lower end spectrum and when you have enough, than you can step up.

Sorry to be a stickler, but I'm an English teacher.

www.elearnenglishlanguage.com

Come on people, at least take the time to read in order to keep your comments relevant.

Sorry for the bad grammar, but I'm typing from my iPhone. Hats off to you and what you do. Thanks

It really doesn't matter what the price is. I want it, and I will be purchasing it.

Same here...

same here.

I shall reserve my little people jokes for another thread. :/

Not on the authorized sealer list from Rane. www.rane.com

Please check your spelling.

This site says $1200 but it could be a mistake. livesoundandlights.3dcartstores.com

Its a fake, heres the address and phone for that office,

S D Home Improvement
5517 W Montrose Ave, Chicago, IL 60641
(773) 794-2180

www.bing.com

hey its also an all state insurance office
www.nexport.com

lol whatever dude

Zoom in to street level, doesn't look too legit for my taste:

maps.google.com

There is a phone number in huge font on their home page. I called it and an automated machine says "Thank you for calling Live Sound and Lights", then it connects to a voicemail.

They got set up just in time for Xmas:

Domain Name: LIVESOUNDANDLIGHTS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: registrar.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 20-dec-2011
Creation Date: 19-dec-2011
Expiration Date: 19-dec-2012

I wonder how much they've made already. I'm sure someone fell for it.

I bought one already, they already sent me a tracking number!!!!












































NOT!!!!!

*cues the Dragnet music

If it's at 1800 I say it's fair. Serato, the mixer, the midi features, the effects. It's all high quality Rane gear, so no crappy plastic feeling, reliable, awesome sound. But that doesn't leave much room for a rane63 (3 channel?) Where would this fit in price wise?

looks like no need for dicers anymore.

why not??

the 62 has everything you can do with dicers on the board.

yeah. but i still use the cues on my 57 and dicers at the same time. making beats on the fly, doing your build ups and much more. it's like having 2 sets of cues for every cue point. just my 2 cents. i'll be keeping mine and doing the same as i do now ;)

Price: 2152 €! No comment!!!

Actually...

Besides the dual USBs (yes, they were in the 68, but how many people do you know that rushed out to get one of those), there is another feature that, if I am not mistaken, is new to this mixer - and one that could be GREATLY helpful with my band projects...

Midi clock output to another computer via the 2nd USB. This may not mean much to everyone, but for some of us, it's AWESOME. It'll be a while before I can buy one for sure, but I'm not disappointed with Rane's work on the 62 at all. They are definitely continuing to push the envelope and I can't wait to DJ on one of these... someday. :)

Finally, to anyone complaining about the price, someone hit it dead on with an earlier post. MADE IN THE USA. Most DJ gear is produced in cheap-labor nations and the quality reflects it. Rane does not mess around with any of that nonsense. :)

^^^ +1000

I must admit im quite surprised a high majority do not share my views in regards to high price. Moving on...lol

Does anyone no the approximate Dealer price of the Rane 62 (the price dealers will purchase from Rane). Guitar Center would be a good example. This info is a great tool when haggling (negotiating) for a good deal.
Im aware this price may also depend on quantity and/or Rane an dealer partnerships.

I think it's priced a little high - but I also think if you're looking to pay less, you should be taking it up with the dealer and not Rane...

build quality, being locally manufactured, and company reputation is enough for me to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're setting a fair price for what you're getting.

Usually when I'm buying anything from Guitar Center, if it's over around 1.3k I always either:
1.) Go when there is a sale
2.) Go to the same customer rep
why the same rep? If you keep going to the same guy he will hook you up with deals on the spot, just about anytime I'm spending over 1.2k or so I get hooked up with at least a 10% discount.

Rane is Made in USA? I didn't know this... good stuff! I just found this link...

Why Made in the USA?

Rane manufactures in the USA because it is the best way for us to produce the musical instruments and professional sound tools our customers demand, respect, and deserve. It simply makes sense. Rane is proud to define, design, manufacture, and support all of our products from our single facility in Mukilteo, Washington USA. Doing so allows us to have a deep understanding of our product, our customer needs, and gives us a superior ability to support our products and react to customer wants and needs.

Rane has a long history with in-house manufacturing. Today there is a toxic mindset of cheap and cheaper; making the lure of off-shore manufacturing attractive to many. It may be satisfactory for commodity and throw away goods, but few professional musicians or sound engineers ever aspired to work with the cheapest tool or instrument. It is a fact that when a company abandons their own captive manufacturing operation they lose the insight necessary to truly support their product, react to customer needs or problems, and innovate. Because of the intimacy with all the processes, Rane is a better company and produces a better and more fully-supported product.

The rest of it is here: www.rane.com

So why or how does Pioneer justify their high prices when their stuff is made of plastic and overseas? They're using cheap overseas labor and making a boatload of profit off of their products. I've always like the quality of the TTM56 and 57 mixers and Rane just gave me another excuse to stick with their product.

^^^ Yes sir!

And ... luckily I have a friend with a GC artist discount ;)

Still looking for insider infomation on GC dealers price.....

just don't buy it. i really dont know why people get expensive gear unless, they have money to spend on it, or they have dj jobs that will pay for it and will be beneficial for them to get it.

Fuck that I ain't switching my ttm 57 for a new mixer. It's like me buying a new car 1.5 years ago and this same model but newer car comes out with 26" wheels and a sound system I can't keep buying new shit just because new shit will always be coming out why people bitching no one is forcing you to buy the new mixer! Geeze.

Btw I am hating on the new mixer because I just bought a house and I can't spend 2k I rather buy furniture for my new crib I can still Rock the party with my ttm57 and dicers! :-)

All professional gear should be 10K or more to leave the jokers behind. nm

^^ +1111

Agreed!! But because of what the industry has become (noobs, undercutters, etc), venue owners seem to like not spending much money on a good jock, when a cheap guy "will do"

At least in my area. Never the less, it won't stop me from saving ;)

That was a joke. lol

All gear has a cost that is relative to its manufacturing cost + advertising + demand.

If you can't afford it, don't buy it. There WILL ALWAYS be something cheaper. It may not be as good, but there is always a choice.

Even "Damn Higher" when you decide to get the 62 and 62z. I have had a ttm 56 since 05 and was recently thinking about buying the 57sl but this came along and I think it offers a lot of features, for the price. Pricey depends who you ask, different strokes for different folks. YOU all have many choices as to what equipment you can purchase, but don't complain when the price YOU are paying is for Quality and Reputation.
Shoot the videos I saw from NAMM got me a little nervous, so many cheap priced controllers just gonna make it easier for more "I think I can DJ" monkeys to be coming out of the wood works....................

Got them from there.I have always been taken care of by agiprodj, I got a great price I suggest you contact them, I know they will take care of you. Believe dATTTTTTT!!!!!!!!

So, what's gonna go down if they have a Sticky Button problem with this model?

: )

BTW, I have a DJ friend who's got a 57, and one of the Cue buttons actually stopped working.

He's supposidly sending it to Rane to get it fixed for free, but I'm SAYIN....

If you read all of my posts i think you will have a better understanding of what im sayin. you are a bit off target as it applies to me or the topic.

BTW....regardless of me achieving my goal or not, I will be purchasing the product because it is within my financial means. It will also be very beneficial to me personally because I regularly dj with multiple djs and i also do sound system rentals for shows with multiple dj.

It is quite a steep price but there are so many cliche's that you can insert into the next sentence.

" You get what you pay for."
"Don't rob Peter to pay Paul." (to get this mixer and still be broke)
"If you gotta ask, you can't afford it."
"You gotta spend money to make money."

On that note I can afford it and will more than likely be getting one as well, LOL... Gaffle loan me $20 homey...

he'd save some time by just getting some deoxit spray - that's usually fixes 57 button problems immediately.

Yes sir.....it fix my buttons an faders with the quickness. I didn't even bother to open it up.

yea, i can usually just spray into the seams although i get better results if I open the mixer up...

Yes it is the preferred method.

like i said earlier.. dealer cost is 15 and change

I'll loan you $20 if you loan me $50.

(-:

Well I prefer to write my own....:)
" nothing is written in store, every price is negotiable." PDIDY.

Do you really need a 3rd ch ? With the capabilities of the aux ch & having a 2nd usb... I see a lot of room for a work around. My question is will the record function for Alb be the same

if this is the case, my goal of around $1600 will be pretty difficult....

man i hope so, but i don't know, MAP price on the ttm 57 was what? $1,450 or $1,499, the cheapest i was able to get it for was $1,200

I don't know if he said it got stuck or wouldn't operate AT ALL, but considering the amount of money that's laid out for a 57 IN THE FIRST PLACE, regarding a KNOWN issue, I probably would have sent it in myself, if it was me, JUST to be sure...

I've owned almost every Rane mixer since the 54i, and have owned a Pio 909, 707, and a Nexus. Every one of my Rane mixers are working perfectly. I returned the 909 (which was dope when it worked) and the Nexus (those early firmware issues pissed me off too much)...

Bottom line, I am getting the 62. I think it is reasonably priced, considering I will be using it knowing that I am on a product made by a company whose products have been rock solid for me even since I started buying them. Most of my gigs are mobiles, and I cannot work while worrying about a possible failure or reboot.

So I might be in the minority if I say $2000 is fair for the Sixty-Two. But judging from my experience with both Rane and Pioneer mixers, that peace of mind is well worth the extra coin...

they just don't know i have a ttm 52, original not the 52i, for those that don't know that was rane's mojo series, i had that thing for nine years didn't replace the fader not one time, i'm a working dj & practiced alot, finally sold it to get a ttm 56, these mixers are built like tanks, it's still being used today

no you're actually in the majority.....what the f*ck is goin on wit yall....lol

it's not going to sell for 2g's we know that much

& with all the zxa5's jbl vrx's and everything else you have that will blow out all the windows on a city block if it was all hooked up for a block party BALLER, lol

stop complaning.....lol

lol @ BALLER

Naaa....Im not complaining, I'm trying to encourage group negotiations on a larger scale which will result in savings for the consumer which is us.

MANNNNN the price of the new rane 62 is TOOOO DAAAAMMMMMMM HIGH, rane you need to lower it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!















there i'll help you cause!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your cause!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuckit i give up...lol

I'll go ahead and contribute my opinion. I wouldn't pay $2k for that mixer. It won't make or help me play better in my opinion so what sense does it make. I already have the TTM57... If I had a spare $2k laying around, I'd upgrade my Mac, not my mixer. I'd definitely pay $1250 for it.

People still bitching about prices of DJ Equipment? Are you serious? If you can't afford it then don't get it. Consider it as an investment not an expense. Step your game up and stop selling yourself short on gigs and then maybe dropping $2k wouldn't hurt you so much. The majority of those bitchin about the price probably don't need the Sixty-Two anyway. They just wanna have the new toy

this is true, but you already know, people will be lining up to buy it, me i'm selling my 56 & sl3, so at most all i need to spend is $1,000

do you even know about all the gear pdidy owns, i think he can afford two 62'stwo 61's two 57's & two 68's

I will also be selling my empath and sl-3. Im kind of having seconds thoughts about selling them though. If I end up not selling, I will have to wait at least 2.5 months until buying the sixty-two. Either way "IM GETTING IT".

i got my 57 for $1700 after taxes - if the 62 came in at under $2000, i'd consider it fair...

probably be around $2300 canadian tho - might just head south to go get it when I'm ready to buy a new mixer...

well if he's loaded like that then I don't see the reason for complaining about the price. That's like someone going to the Lamborghini dealear and trying to haggle over the price...lol

wwooooowww, never pay retail, i got the latest 57 the one with the red outline for $1,200 shipped

if you find a distributor willing to negotiate on a group rate, i'd be in :) but somehow i doubt anyone will bite at least right away...

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this is one of his bottom boxs---------> www.guitarcenter.com















and he calls that his small set up.........lol get the F@ck outa hereeeee, small set up....lol

o i use the same buy the way, great minds think alike, but it's not my small setup

yo pididy , we should try this call proaudiostar & say we want to buy $30 rane 62's how much can we get it for?

$30 = 30

That would be hot as hell but as I now see not posibble.

This mixer is at a good price because no Boobs will be buying this mixer

I'll let everyone in on a little secret.

it's going to to be cheaper than 2k.

NOW STOP CRYING!!!!!

lol.

You gotta take a positive look at this. The rich kids with mommy and daddy's money will rush out and buy it saying that they're gonna be DJs. after about 2-3 months they'll give up and you'll be able to buy it off them real cheap

Btw....I'm not broke, just frugal as a mf........:)

If it was 1500, Id buy. 2000+ is too much.

O No your broke, you spent so much money on all them yorkvilles & other gear that you have none left..........lol

No need for misquote.

nm

I hate waiting on this mixer...... I believe 1800 or even 1700 will be the set price

MAN FUNK THAT! I ain't ICED OUT, or nuffin' but I have some money roll thru erry now and again....That being said, I AIN'T JUST GIVIN' AWAY LOOT JUST BECUZ IT'S THE NEW JAWN.

Do you know WHY I kept using those Realistic Mixers for 20+ years? Because NOTHING (IMO) came out better to suit me for what I needed and wanted to DO.

Yeah, I have a Rane 56S, and it's all cool and whatnot, but I ONLY bought that because of what I heard about the Coca-Cola Super Everlasting Fader..., (and that if I needed to provide a Sound System with Mixer, that would instantly fit the bill), and I wouldn't have to worry about breakage.

I don't care if I'm a MILLIONAIRE, I ain't squanderin' loot "Just Becuz". ...eff dat.

Boom, there it is.

Isn't that just ONE (or 2) extra party(ies)?

man they pay for themselves even when im not djin, sound is a nice side hustle...

It's not a necessity, it's an option. You have the option to spend the money on it and you also have the option to not spend the money on it. Nobody's gonna look down on you or ridicule you if you don't have one...lol

Ha, not even 24 hours after they had the 62 priced at $1200, they have changed it to the MAP.

So what all ya say about the price in europe which is 2100€ for 62. Converted to US $ it's 2733$.

a closer look at the 62
Watchwww.youtube.com

+1

Seems like it's decently priced to me after a little more in depth information about the new features

ay
Here is my opinion. With the price of the mixer being $2K and folks having a problem with the price, are y'all using a 2011 MBP? The reason why I ask is because it's almost the same concept. The 2011 MBP had new components and features that the 2010 MBP didn't have such as quad core and Thunderbolt (which I still haven't used yet). Other than that, it's still a MBP with 2 USB ports. I'm sure they're are other features I missed but you get my point. As you can see in the TTM 57 thread, there were a lot of people with the new MBP when it came out because the TTM 57 had to be ran in another mode to get it to work until OSX Lion came out. So where I'm getting at is the 62 is a beefed up 2012 57 which is different that the 57, and the people who want it will buy it like me. I have a skinned up 57 and a 909. Nothing wrong with either but I'm getting the 62 and probably won't bring it to a gig until style flip.com will come out with the template for it. If you want it, make ways where you can afford it. I'll tell you about me, I was the PC laptop dude that claimed the Macs were too damn high and PCs can do the same thing. I was like "I can get a new PC laptop for $400" and "people on Craigslist selling MBP for damn near MSRP." But all the major djs in my area of Texas kept telling me you need a Mac. If you want the best out of Serato, get a Mac. So after a lot of debating, I got a Mac and I love it. I paid $2000.01 (yes the .01) for it and it's worth every penny. I don't complain about it at all. So the same will go when you get the 62. Not "owning" it and just "playing" on it will make you feel like eeehhh, whatever. But when you own it, you will feel like this is worth what it costs. And you will feel good about it. It's an upgrade that can be purchased from a "business." Rane and Serato are a business and have to turn over a profit. We don't want them to turn into Panasonic with the death of the Technics 1200s because no one was buying brand new 1200s because non of the new models had stand out features and they last forever if you're responsible. Is the 62 expensive? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes. Will it sell for $2K? Maybe. But to all who bought a brand new Mac from the Apple store, you paid the price that Apple was asking for. No ordinary person can go to the Apple store and ask for $400 off the MSRP. They'll politely tell you no and try to sign you up for financing which will probably be embarrassing if done in public inside the store. I say buy the 62 when you can. If you can't afford it now, wait. I'm sure nobody in this thread has a down 57 or a SL box that will not read so no one is in a dire situation to have a new mixer. The 62 is a want, not a need. Y'all on here acting like it's a slap in the face that the price is what it is. And to those who feel that Rane should update you, can you go anywhere and ask for an update or upgrade beside cell phones? It's business y'all. Let's get with it. Shit, I just raised my mix tape prices and all glory to GOD I'm still getting a good flow of clientele coming through and they're not complaining. Let's be better djs, raise our prices, and prove why we should be paid that much by showcasing more skills through superior gear than these USB controller and laptop only djs. I'm Ceddy Ced, follow me @thahustlasdj. Godzilla on Deck.
Cue applause.
yep

+1 (besides using the MBP stuff...lol)

ay
And another thing. Y'all on here should make more money than I do as all I spin hip hop and r&b. I don't do house, top 40, d&b and all that other popular stuff. Which means y'all are more in demand than a dj that just battles and does radio and urban clubs in Texas like I. I know a dj that spins everything and he makes around $1200 a dj weekend (Thursday, Friday, and Saturday). I haven't asked him but I'm sure he can afford the 62 because of what he can spin. If I can afford it with being limited to the genre I choose to spin, I'm sure y'all can.
yep

+1, Get your hustle on

+1

This thread is really distracting people away from the point that rent is too high.

I was selling the TTM57SL at $1500.00 for years when I still worked music retail.
People were upset when it first came out saying it was "too much money".
We sold out several times.

A little less than 6 years later, the Sixty One and Sixty Two arrive at $1399 & $1999 respectively, and people are upset that they're "too much money".
I checked with a few local and online shops, and most have sold through their first batch of pre-orders already.

I'm pretty sure there will always be a thread on these forums that whatever Rane comes out with is "too much money".

It's all a matter of opinion, in the end.

I will buy another Rane mixer, because it's nice to buy an American made product that is high quality and comes with an excellent repair warranty and a service center with a quick turn around time. (Not "fanboy" talk. A fact.)

We are in an expensive line of work, but our work is also quite lucrative, as ced_so_thoed pointed out. I could never pay for my music/dj equipment with my day job.

No trying to argue or cause any flare ups.

Respect, Groove & Gratitude.

i knew you would say that....lol

dont sell that empath

the rent is to damn high

Watchwww.youtube.com

What can I say, I'm a PC guy...lol

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why not?

Im a PC guy too
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sorry couldnt help myself.....bad pdidy....

You might be able to get a cheaper deal i the States, certainly ain't getting one in the Uk:(

Also, not sure about this high quality products from rane?

I bought a Rane 57sl, not long after they came out and to be fair its served me well. although, i have had some issues with it, that i expect quite a lot of other users have also experience. 1. Midi interface very unresponsive, especially B1 and B6. I'm pretty sure this was quite a common fault, but nonetheless, rane's quality parts and build shining through. 2. PGM 1 input fader ( contour control) The fader won't reset to slow, just goes between mid and high. Is this down to Firmware, or is it SMOKED! 3. All the EQ knobs are cheap and my 56+57, both had issues with them coming loose.

ANyone wanna buy a Faulty 57:)

Well of course, no company is "perfect", but we used to take in faulty Pioneer, Denon, and Mackie on a pretty regular basis. Rane was maybe twice in 10 years.

Again, just my experience.

I wanna buy one while I'm working at guitar center but I think my wife would kill me

Nonsense.

You should talk to the Rane rep in your area. You'll get a better deal direct from them as a GC employee than from GC itself.

Then maybe you'll just have to sleep on the couch a few nights. :)

just don't let her know about it.. you got a good month and a half to save up some cash

if you got a 57, sell the sucker on CL or ebay, and use the money towards the purchase of the 62. I would say it would be a decent flip. Im pretty sure you have a SL-1 as a back up.

Is this thread really necessary?

95.8% of the threads on serato.com aren't necessary.

its actually 95.74%
just saying

Oh right, the other got IBTL'd, my bad!

LOL

Serato Forums: "Come for the information. Stay for the comedy."

It could be worse, we could be bitching about not being able to afford the ferrari we always wanted and we're stuck driving a 1990 Hyundai excel

my leg is itchy...

Support American made foo

I just ate a great sub from subway.... and back to the future is about to come on

Just sold my old M3Ds for $800 for the pair, then sold my 57 for a whopping $1100. So the 62 is gonna cost me $100. Can I get a hell-to-the-yeah!

Looks like I'll be rocking my Rane 54i w/SL1 for the next couple of weeks. 54i still works like the day I bought it. Rane = Quality

^^^^ where is the LIKE button

Can I get a witness? LOL.

Respect.

Fuck that "closer look" thread is getting me really close to buying this.

^ err video

1100 damn.... i have one im gonna sell..... what should i ask for a 57 with an odyssey sliding laptop stand case?

You know, I really didn't like it at first, AT ALL, but I have to say, I'm pretty sure I want it now. It grows on me every day.

I just wish someone would put actual transform switches back on mixers, not the joystick crap, for people who never learned to cut with a fader.

I hear the knobs are too hard. Anybody ready to put the knurled, colored aluminum knobs on. What about DJTT's gummy knobs? Somebody at Rane got an answer? It's tax-time and chickenheads got loot to burn. Holla back......................QUICK!

lmfao

He said Chickenheads...

serato.com

I did a vid on the Djtechtool knobs here: serato.com

They are nice but don't quite fit...

What about the machined aluminum? The ones all over ebay? Anybody tried those?

That's kind of a misleading video. You intentionally use the shorter knobs which you can easily see would be physically impossible to cover the 57 mixer stem. How come you didn't show the other ones that were in the background? Those seemed taller and would probably have worked better.

In your defense DJ Tech Tools should post height measurements of the knobs and post pictures of the knobs on all the different machines they claim they fit on.

he did try the tall ones.... WATCH the video...

Knobs are too hard? What does that mean? They have a soft touch rubberized feel to them. Probably some of the best knobs on a Rane mixer to date.

anything that can be complained about in any way will be... what they should have built was a 32... threw in on the ground at the show and said "you bitches make this work" and walked away...

How about PRACTICE... that usually works lol

I understand what you are aiming to do pdidy

But I'm in manufacturing for the MI industry too (for a diff co) and i know there's very little cost that can be removed to make it "more affordable" if which is why they have the 61, and if you shaved cost there you'd end up w/ a 57. Trust me, i believe the price is steep, but understandably steep considering the features and the manufacturing cost. What i don't get is how not as many people complain when Pioneer's parts and manuf. are extremely cheap and their MAP is enormously high because you are paying for their massive marketing budget and the fact that they practically give away gear to the top DJ's so that other will want to buy it.

All in all the price may be 10-20% higher than I'd like but at least i know where the money was spent on a Rane SL mixer. Remember Serato has to get their cut too. Not to mention the dealer / distributor who wants to make a small profit as well.

I do, a lot, with my transform switches.

+ old dog, new tricks. Been this way for almost 20 years.

Let me clarify, left deck using fader HOORAY! Right deck using fader OMGWTFBBG was THAT?!!?!

Still want fucking transform switches.

((FACE PALM))

The site description says ALL the knobs would fit a TTM57.
www.djtechtools.com

They do not fit. I spent $40 on knobs and none fit.

Also, as time goes on, manufacturing will get cheaper. Parts get cheaper when bought in higher quantities, manufacturing processes get streamlined, and marketing costs get lower as the product becomes more established.

On the consumer side, we may not see this. The retail price will probably remain the same. What does go down (sometimes) is the dealer cost, meaning the the retailers will make more money per unit in the future.

So, if you want to wait a little....maybe the dealers will have a bit more wiggle room in the future. For now, the dealer markup will be very small...

Yo, lvmes go this thread serato.com
and post that, so we can get some resolution...
Ean Golden (djtechtools founder) is a member of this forum!

I sent an email and nothing. Even pm'ed a member on here who posted s pic with a few knobs on his 57. Nothing.

Just caught the end. That does suck.

Anyone call them?

For Phone Support
1-877-246-8958
Monday - Thursday
10am - 1pm & 3pm - 7pm (PST)

hey guys im a mod on djtt, please send a email to info @ djtechtools com so this can get resolved. and lets not hijack this thread!

Man, EFF them hatas! LOL! j/k...

But on the REAL, if I NEVER posted any vids showing me rocking on a Realistic, cats would swear I was the 2nd coming of Jazzy Jeff!

It's funny, SOMETIMES they're mezmorized by the fact that I'm using a mixer older than they are, and SOMETIMES they're like "USE TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY"...lol..

Man listen, gimmie some Radio Shack transform buttons on a Rane, and it would be a WRAP.

Its so expensive for what it is!!!!

I hear this about cars

I hear this about food

etc. etc. etc.

i hear this about my dj fee sometimes.

Well done.

get a flashformer =D

Didn't know that (Offshored/outsourced), but now that I do the price doesn't seem all too bad. Thinking Rane should point that out more often!

They're a company founded and run by engineers. So the engineering has always taken a front seat over marketing. Seems to work well for them.

If you ever need any kind of service, the differences between them and almost any other DJ-oriented company are kind of amazing...at least here in the U.S.

I hope they can continue to run things the way they have.

I think the service from Rane (and serato for that matter, perfect match it seems) is far above anything I've seen from another company. People going out of their way to make sure their customers are happy with a product.

transform switches aren't really necesarry when you have adjustable fader curve lol

i still want kill switches

Yea I already know. Talked to rane already.

Wrong. I grew up on those switches, and the sound they emulate can't REALLY be duplicated by a fader...

There's things you can do with a switch that you can't do with a fader and vice versa.

you're right, that annoying static click sound...lol
I used to use those switches back in the day too. then I practiced and got my skills up :-P

yeah, that was a cheap shot below the belt, hahaha
(NM)

Rent is too damn high and my pants are on the ground

Nope, not a staticy sound, that was mostly those Numark/Gemini mixers...

Realistic was HIGH QUALITY, and even had SPLIT CUE...

Shoot, didn't RANE just release 3 or 4 new mixers and STILL NO SPLIT CUE?

Oh, and I'm sure I'd WAX ANYBODY with my switches...

I heard your next battle is with alzheimer's

ha ha

The thought has most seriously crossed my mind. But I'd rather use what I have now (a janky DXM 06) which surprisingly hasn't let me down, or get some new hotness and have a bunch of what I would like to have (video control)

New hotness seems to be winning.

And for the record, I miss all the Realistic/clones I had.

PPS, I love the switch vs. fader debate.

Sixty-One and Sixty-Two mixers have split cue. Trust me, I was playing on them last night :)

Huh, I forgot what you said.

^^^This, I thought I was the only one who thought this way...

Seriously?

Hold up, aint you from JERSEY? At that time that I WANTED to upgrade, all they had out was that "Reborn Numark, Stanton, and Gemini crap...

Oh, they DID have the Technics SH-DJ1200, for 400 bucks, and I bought that sucker.

2 weeks later, FADER BLEED, they swapped it out for a new one...

1 month later FADER BLEED, and they wouldn't take it back...

So I did the EBAY thing and stayed strong with Realistic...

Where did you get your hands on a Vestax, cuz I don't remember Sam Ash having them back in the day?

The 61 and 62 have split cue.

That's more than we needed to know.

nm

Yes, I have no sense of humor.

Ok, I might have to check that out....

Let me find out that I can sell my 56S and get the same thing in a 61...

NOW, I will pay attention to this...

Wait, what MINIMUM version of ScratchLive will work with the 61, please say 1.9.2...

Showoff.

i'm guessing version 2.4, with added bugs features, it won't work on 1.9.2

Hmmm....lol @ "bugs features"...but I'm sayin...SPLIT CUE would be HUGE for me...

So, selling my 56S+SL3 SHOULD net me enough to get a 61 straight out...right?

Probably close at least. Looking at completed auctions on eBay, 56s are going for $500-600 and SL3s are going for $350-450...

And yes, I was looking at the 56S and not the old 56.

I saw that you typed 56s, so gave you the benefit of the doubt... :-), and appreciate that you even checked it for me.

But I want to be clear...the 61 has Serato built in? I assume so as it says "Serato"...duh..

But I kinda still want the convenience of having the ability to hook the SL3 up to any mixer (read REALISTIC :-D), and being able to rip it...

Decisions, decisions...I heard the cue acts funny on the 61/62 though, like you can't have 2 on at the same time?

You can cue 2 at a time just press both buttons at same time.

Btw....the 61 has 4 cue buttons an I believe u can even cue all 4 options at the same time.

the new mixer only works on 2.4 which is still in private beta, which is the only thing I dont like about the new mixer is that Im going to say goodbye to 2.2

you can change the cue modes. Im not sure what they are called but one mode allows you to toggle cues on and off and the other mode is like a reactive cue were one shuts off when you switch to the other. But I think that only applies for the channel cues and not the fx cues or aux cue. This is on the 62 by the way I didnt play with the 61

I don't think so.. any reference?

^^^ personal experience with the mixer I played with it for about 3 hours and messed around with a lot of stuff. Im not sure if that will be included in the final release. I do know I could either toggle the cues or have be reactive to one another but it only applied for fader channels. Of course alot of that has to do with the software release as well so we will have to see whats in the final

on the 62 all 3 cues may be cued at same time.
goto 6:45
Watchwww.youtube.com

I used to own a record store that also sold equipment so I had connects with distributors. Wish I still owned the store now so I could get dealer cost on a new 62

Are we SURE? I actually LISTEN in the headphones to backspins, so not having to switch between channel 1 & 2 is paramount....

Y'all really gonna make me spend some money out this piece....

The video I saw you could just press both butons at once to activate the cueing each side.

yes there is a vid on them holding the two cue's to cue up both at the same time,
you can even cue up the sampler by holding the 3 buttons at once,
and then if you just press one it de selects all the others

BOOM.

There it is.

Figures....lol.

Where was the Record store?

i hope all the bugs are worked out the software the mixer ships with, been on 1.9.2 without issue, fingers crossed that 2.4 is good!!!!!!!

B.U. Records in Dover, NJ
only had it for 2 years (1998-2000) then me and my business partners parted ways (NM)

Ahhh, tragic, but props for owning one in the 1st place...

But again, I didn't see Vestax mixers except in VHS DMC battles....

Only problem with the Vestax mixers was that after a while you'd get funny grounding sound from the main outputs. it would be really low but the trained ear could pick it up

i'm still surprised you decided to go with the 56S instead of an Empath - just sounded like the empath would have fit your needs more - especially what with the split cue...

As you were I was wrong the video explained it way better than I just did

Johnny you listen to your back spins in the head phones. That throws me off I can't do it at all breaks my rhythm hearing it I just got use to counting spins until it stuck with me. Maybe I'm the strange one

I looked, but they didn't have the Everlasting PEPSI-COLA Fader...

It's actually a combination of sight and sound...

A marked label for general reference, and the headphones for pinpoint accuracy.

What was great about the Realistic was that when you had BOTH channels cued, if I was currently playing Channel 1, Channel 2 would actually be LOUDER giving you a better prescence of the sound being cued...

So it wouldn't sound like a whole lot of clashing in the headphones (on the left side) even though it's 2 different channels that you've got cued.

And vice versa, so it's was like Fader driven subtle cueing....

WAY ahead of their time...

no im the same way, i mark my records an backspin visually. cuing slows me down.

As it relates to the price I bought my 57 when they were brand new. I cringed a little at the price then but that thing has been a TANK! I've taken it to so many shows and beat it up and dropped it a couple times and it still kicks butt. When someone finally broke a knob knocking my laptop onto it I sent it in to get fixed. For $190ish dollars they completely refurbished the mixer with new faders, knobs and all new electronic buttons. They even replaced the USB plug. The bag of parts they replaced is huge, basically every moving part. They did this super fast too, it was only out of my hands for a week. They called me too to discuss some of the details of refurb/shipping and were super cool. So basically what I am saying is that you are not just buying a mixer, you are buying a mixer solution. You are buying a rock solid piece of gear backed up by rock solid people. You know what happens when you pioneer mixer needs to get fixed? No? Neither do I? I think you are supposed to just throw it out? Their gear is flashy but it's disposable. Who do you know that's still rocking a DJM 600? Those used to be EVERYWHERE and where are they now? I'll take a hard look at the 62, and I'll probably buy it... but I might just keep rocking the 57. ...and if you think the new mixers are too much maybe now is the time to snag a cheap 57 from someone who thinks a more expensive mixer is gonna make them better. Some of the best DJ's I have ever seen play on crappy gear, and some of the worst rock the best of everything. The point is I don't think you should complain, because you don't have a lot of other good options as I see it. You are also kind of disrespecting the people who support and empower what you do. Just my $0.02.

Yep, my boy Chad S. took care of my 2nd 57 that I bought used. I sent it in for that same service and they replaced everything on the mixer... I'm gonna keep one 57 and probably get the 62 as the main mixer for my turntable setup... It was pretty dope to try to cut on it at NAMM... Note: I quickly stopped trying to scratching when I saw Faust & Shortee getting ready to get down...

scratching = scratch

i don't mind the higher price... i'd hate to buy it and then see a noob with it.... u know anyone u see with this is experience and serious about their craft.

Not true.. there those rich kids with mommy and daddy's money that will get this to make them look better...lol

i've had one experience with RANE customer support on the phone and it was not what i was expecting -- THEY WERE GREAT!

BASICALLY HOW I'M FEELING!

xD lol, true...

Rane is the best when it comes to customer service no doubt, they got my back while on tour way down in Korea and I'm forever gratefull to them.

Ordered my 62 today. I'll be waiting for FedEx everyday.

ordered mine yesterday $1,800 what you get it for?

where did u get it for 1800?

I wonder if we should be saying we got it lower than the $1,999 that we're supposed to pay.

i didn't say were i got it, there's alot of dealers taking pre orders!

True.
Same exact price for me including shipping.

i'm sure we got it from the same place.lol

i think once the mixers out & the buzz wears of we will be able to find it cheaper

Is this the "I don't get enough gigs to pay for a 62 so let me complain" thread?

If you have a problem affording one of these then your not booking enough gigs to even get any use out of it.

if you talk to agiprodj on their customer chat you can get it for 1800 no tax & free shipping within US for anyone wondering where to get it for 1800, if you get one for less let us all know

You better set up a Basketball net and put a big fluffy pillow under there, so when they go for that Free Throw, you'll have a fighting chance...

LOL

a got a great price. even bought some new headphones and crane stand.

$1800? sounds like you're getting the 62 Z

Ok, WHO on here would buy a 62Z?

Warranty Info:
Pioneer offers a 1 year warranty when you purchase their products from an authorized dealer and RANE offers a 2 year warranty with an additional extra year if you register your product no matter who you purchase it from.

Pioneer and RANE cover parts and labor but not shipping.

Found this out since i'm looking at a the 909, 57, and 62

only time i ever got free shipping, NEXT DAY, was from bose.

everywhere else i gotta pay, even for ground =(

With Rane, they will ship it back however you sent it in. So, if you pay for Next Day to day, they will pay Next Day back when it's fixed. nm

Next Day to them.... nm

When in warranty, we match your shipping on the return. You send it to us overnight, we'll ship back overnight. We know ya'll got work to do :)

Oh, I see what you did there. Trying to make it "faster" than my Next Day huh?

Alright.. I will teletransport it there. :P

Niicceeeeeeeee

amen!

I might.

fixed

nm

i have the limited edition ttm57 so i will likely get the 62z also. I prefer my mixers to look different than all the rest of the other djs an i dont like skins. plus limited editions have higher resell value.

you can always do custom paint if you don't like skins

sure ,but custom paint drops resale value. I want it stock but different so i think 62z is the only option so far.

Well you really won't be that much original with the 62z. You'll have the mixer that all the noobs have..lol

lol, i here ya but that's not likely were im from (Brooklyn). East coast not so big on ztrip as west coast. An Ive only seen 1 limited edition 57 in the wild other than mine an i travel alot.

man don't front..........lol, if they had a jazzy jeff 62 you would be all over that sh#t, NH...lol

hell yea no doubt...lol

I did. i got suckered by the cables. i've always wanted to try them out. However, the one thing that never occurred to me since i never had a mixer with SSL built in, i wouldn't actually NEED the cables for anything. haha.

i do like Z-Trip but that had nothing to do with the purchase. the resale value was a consideration.

In my opinion you will have a harder time reselling the z-trip model in the future.

Nah, I'm waiting for the StyleFlip template to be ready for the 62 and then I'm gonna do a design similar to the 62z but with my logo in the place of Z-trip and a different color scheme..lol

you're jokin right.....im aware alot of east coast djs like us may not care for ztrip that much but his dj fan base runs deep. it will keep a high resell value provided the 62 is as good a mixer as we suspect.

like I said, it's my opinion. there is no dj hall of fame to keep the value up.

what about the Pauly D special ed? I mean Special Edition.

I here ya......BTW...I'm not a ztrip fan nor do i care for his dj style.

You all or tripping. You don't want another DJs name on you mixer like you someobody that could compete with him. Its like wearing jordans. Chill out.

and the argument about the re-sell value. If you it for that reason, you better see how many numbers they make, but if they do make a really small amount and that shit is rare as fuck and will go up in value, then I'm gonna buy two.

If its just as common as a regular one,

Qbert, Invisible Scratch Picklz. Granmaster Flash, all had their own mixers.

The argument would be valid if any of you were dope enough to have YOUR OWN MIXER WITH YOUR OWN NAME ON IT. None of you do. Chill out.

My fault for the last post and not proofreading. Here it is again but with gramatical corrections.

You all are tripping. You don't want another DJs name on you mixer like you someobody that could compete with him? Its like wearing jordans. Chill out.

And the argument about the re-sell value, if you do it for that reason, you better see how many numbers they make, if they do make a really small amount and that shit is rare as fuck and will go up in value, then I'm gonna buy two.

Qbert, Invisible Scratch Picklz. Granmaster Flash, all had their own mixers.

The argument would be valid if any of you were dope enough to have YOUR OWN MIXER WITH YOUR OWN NAME ON IT. None of you do. Chill out.

That's what I'M SAYIN, supposed he became a mass killer or some *ish?

Hmmm...maybe his MIXER would TRIPLE in value huh?

It has nothing to do with whether he's a great DJ or not. I'm all about self promotion. I'd rather spend my money putting my own name on the mixer than paying an extra $100 for a mixer with another DJs name on it.

P.S. I don't wear jordans either

So how many Ztrip mixers are being made?????????????????

as many as people buy....I would guess...

Well I asked because it states that it is a Limited Edition.................

I'm getting one of each of the 62

going to my wholesaler to order a 62 (possibly a z) and a 61 (the gf's upgrade). If people offered them 1500 cash for the 62 or even 1200 cash for the 61, they are still making plenty of money....

who again is our wholesaler?

GC?

It has nothing to do with whether he's a great DJ or not. I'm all about self promotion. I'd rather spend my money putting my own name on the mixer than paying an extra $100 for a mixer with another DJs name on it.

P.S. I don't wear jordans either

for the record.. i spent an extra $50 for the Z-Trip.. the cables you get with it sell for roughly $85. i'm not buying the mixer as an investment. i just decided it was worth it for me to get the Z and i'm cool with it. who cares. and in the long run, people like me are suckers for a LTD ED no matter what.. personally.. i just thought it was a better deal. it's not about wanting to have someones name on my mixer. i don't care. Z-Trip isn't shouting over my mixes. so who cares.

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for the record.. i spent an extra $50 for the Z-Trip.. the cables you get with it sell for roughly $85. i'm not buying the mixer as an investment. i just decided it was worth it for me to get the Z and i'm cool with it. who cares. and in the long run, people like me are suckers for a LTD ED no matter what.. personally.. i just thought it was a better deal. it's not about wanting to have someones name on my mixer. i don't care. Z-Trip isn't shouting over my mixes. so who cares.

if you can get a 62 for $1500, get 10.

that number is unrealistic.

I got a great deal on my pre-order, but not $1500.

Not on the 62.

rumor is that dealer cost is around 1550.

yup ^

i got mine around the dealer cost for the z. gotta let my guy make some money.

I can afford it but I'm not going to buy it!!! $2000 IS NUTS!!! For what??? Midi?Sound?...

This is why they need to eliminate the middleman.

Rane should give you the option to BUY DIRECT.

^^^Yup , we should do away with retail stores, super markets, car dealers, anyting that has a middleman and buy direct from the manufacture ,good thinking ;

Whoa, there are SOME places that have lower prices because they buy in BULK, but you get the idea...

just got this from an employee at the GC in Richmond Va.....
" just got price listing from rane on there upcoming mixers.

These are the initial prices that they listed for me... I'm sure I can work around these... Look for price matches or I'll at least save you a 100$ off the price for friend hook up. I'm not positive if these are full retail prices.. looks like what they intended them to be sold for by regular retailers.

SIXTY-ONE PERFORMANCE MIXER $1799.00
WITH SERATO SCRATCH LIVE, ASIO & CORE AUDIO DRIVERS NEW! USB 2.0 PORT SUPPORTS 6 STEREO RECORD & 4 STEREO PLAYBACK CHANNELS

SIXTY-TWO PERFORMANCE MIXER 2499.00
2 USB PORTS SUPPORT 6 STEREO RECORD & 4 STEREO PLAYBACK CHANNELS NEW! INTERNAL EFFECTS ENGINE w/FILTER, FLANGER, PHASER, ECHO, ROBOT & REVERB

SIXTY-TWO Z-TRIP’S LIMITED EDITION SIXTY-TWO Z MIXER $2649
FUNCTIONALLY IDENTICAL TO RANE’S SIXTY-TWO WITH ADDITIONAL BONUSES NEW! FACE PLATE DESIGN BY SHEPARD FAIREY, CUSTOM CABLES"

very interesting indeed... I guess we will just see exactly what is real and what isn't. I have absolutely no reason to not trust this what so ever. This guy is a good friend and sold me my 57 for $1100 when it came out. Hopefully these numbers won't stick. Thats 68 price. Or pioneer 900/sl4 price. I truly hate the idea of going to a 4 channel mixer. I absolutely don't need 4 channels.

By now everyone who is interested in the 61 or 62 should know that NO ONE is paying $2000 for the mixer. Shop around, call as many places as you can and you will get a good deal.

^^^By now everyone that is interested in the 61 /62/62Z is a lot of people. You don't think this monkeys @ GC and other DJ shops know this, hence the e-mail DJ Waldo recieved "from a good friend". I believe the prices will be bumped all to the ever so popular "supply and demand"
I did not hesitate and purchased the 62/62z @AGIIPRODJ.
Just my .02

ive been seeing people playing with the pricing for the first few shipments of the mixers already.... whats funny is there is no exact date yet (public) for the software release of 2.4....

123dj.com has it for 1449.99 pre order

Shipped by Vday according to them

I think that's an era. Another site had is for a cheaper price and when my friend tried to ore-order the owned called him to apologize. He said they listed the wrong price.

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that is correct, it says 1449.99, but when you click on it, it says 1999.99

I wont have a 62 for a longtime then if they come out at that price I cant see me paying more tha 1700 and to be honest I can see me getting it for 1629.00 if I get the right person on the phone. I ve gotten the best deal on gear over the phone.

I am looking at this discussion and I just wanted to make a comment, if the price of the 62 is around $2000.00. Why not go all out and get the best of the rane mixers, ,meaning the 68. Myself there are not too many djs that I would allow to play behind me that would be using my mixer. I have a rane 57 and I would love it, and to get an update to that I am willing to pay the extra money, those that can not afford to buy the 62, the 57 is still the top dog of mixers. I will keep my 57 as a back up. I also like the fact that the 68 has 4 channels, which I try to bring something different to the table when I Dj. I wish Serato do something to update the video sl, too many videos will not play, do anyone have a solution?

newer technology, many people don' want or don't like the 68, some want 2 channel battle style mixer. etc, etc.

All I know is its what I was waiting for, I'm getting it & probably will buy a new mbp 2 match

if your paying more the 1800 for the rane 62Z then your paying a lot..

cant argue that

Are both these mixers true MIDI or like the 57?? The site doesn't really say anything. Although the site says both mixers are VSL compatible......

The rane 62 are true Midi, the 68 is as well

Do anyone has any knowledge on the Serato Video Sl that is coming out in March

who needs 4 "real" decks... when you can use the aux channel on the 62 with the filter knob and flex efx.... i think having the aux along with the sp6 and the bridge is killer for aux out....

I'd love one of these but unfortunately its missing a channel:(

I have the money but $2K is a lot. Never-the-less I want one. The only problem I have is that I love my PMC 05 PRO IV. Vestax definitely aligned it for use with the SL3 and together they are a fantastic solution. The Sixty-Two offers the appeal of an all-in-one solution that exploits all features of Serato Scratch Live. I find that very compelling.

I find that the 68 looks too busy and cluttered.

wow... this is a funny thread. The way i see things is that you get what you pay for. I have owned Rane mixers for close to 15 years and they never failed me... Literally NEVER!

Yes it may be expensive, but i would rather pay more for quality! If you can't afford it, buy something else.

Admittedly, i will probably not use many of the features of the sixty-two but because of the dual USB ports i will get it. Also, nice to know the features are there if i decide to up my game.

Everyone should quit bitching about price and buy something else but the truth is that everyone who is bitching will end up with one of these new quality mixers because it is a Rane!

I do agree with Lenny the quality of rane and their support is unmatched by the other companies. When I first started djing I started with the cheaper gear, only to turn around and buy the best later. You end up paying more in the long run and loosing even more money trying to sell the used gear, no body really wants it, so you have to find a new Dj that wants to go cheap. After you sell him the items you feel bad because you know he will realize later he wasted his money also. I will never buy second best again, if you have to save do that, you will thank yourself later. When you are djing people love to walk up on your set, most of the time it is another Dj, wanting to see what you have. If you have the cheaper gear, that will be his whole conversation to you. When you have the standard, you are respected right off the back, now your skills will be questioned. LOL

Thanks Raw... Yes you are respected and better have the skills to back it up. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing a dj with top of the line gear and crashing every mix. Good news is that the mixer will last until the dj does learn to mix two tracks together and at least the audio quality will be great!

One downside is that when a dj does see that you have some of the best gear out there. He starts asking a million questions about it. Questions i don't want to get into while i have a dance floor to keep!! LOL.

I do agree with Lenny the quality of rane and their support is unmatched by the other companies. When I first started djing I started with the cheaper gear, only to turn around and buy the best later. You end up paying more in the long run and loosing even more money trying to sell the used gear, no body really wants it, so you have to find a new Dj that wants to go cheap. After you sell him the items you feel bad because you know he will realize later he wasted his money also. I will never buy second best again, if you have to save do that, you will thank yourself later. When you are djing people love to walk up on your set, most of the time it is another Dj, wanting to see what you have. If you have the cheaper gear, that will be his whole conversation to you. When you have the standard, you are respected right off the back, now your skills will be questioned. LOL

Have anyone heard any complaints about the rane 68, which I wanted to wait for them to get all the bugs out for I brought one. Now that the 62 is coming out, which I don't know the date for that either? I want to know from the faithful that has the 68 do they totally love it or given the choice, would you have brought the 62 because you don't need everything the 68 has to offer.

I know many people and a few clubs that would argue your "Best of the Rane Mixers" statement.




Go into the Sixty Eight Section of the site. There are quite a few people that have complaints as well as people that swear by it. It's really a Hate it or Love it mixer. Main complaint...the buttons. Those can't be fixed by a software update. Other complaint...gain structure. Many will argue it needs proper setup and learning how to use the gear.

Ha. The Sixty-two is the best of the Rane Mixers. Before it was the 57.

As I am reading the contents, it seem like you are leaning more to the rane 62 and not the 68. The prices will be very close and I didn't want to buy a cheaper vision of the 68. My next mixer I would like to have for (5) years and putting money to the side for the next rane 72 or whatever new rane mixer that comes out. I would love to have a rane mixer with Serato & Traktor made in it. That would be something. Rane would corner the market if that would happen.

Maybe a watered down 57 for TSP2 when their contract is up with Serato. Just thinking out loud. Please don't get sand in your vaginas because of this statement.

with these new mixers the contract won't be up for a good few years, you'll never see a rane traktor mixer unless something drastic happens between serato and rane

I thought you could already use the Sixty Eight with Traktor. Just no time code support.

The Sixty Two fixes the hardware problems that the Sixty Eight has...namely the buttons. You are realistically talking a $400 price difference between the two so the prices aren't that close.

I did however map my Denon 5500 & Pioneer CDJ 900, with my Rane 57 to VDJ 7, using the sound card off the rane 57 just to play all my videos that scratch live would not play. Can I bridge my APC 40 & Rane 57 together without upgrading the software of Ableton live

found the 62 for $1,720

Where did you find it and do you have it at your home or just order it and awaiting for it to be delivered

Where did you find it?

LOl . They didn't drop yet.

Does anybody know what functionality in The Bridge is going to be like? Most notably, the mixtape functions and what controls/actions/buttons are recorded?

preorder

I am not going to preorder anything, unless is a place a drive up to and pick up my gear. I don't want my money held up

i'm fine with it, agi had it for $1,800, pas had it for $1,720, i'm sure it can be found cheaper

Man over $2,000 for a mixer is a grip. Rane should take into consideration that The Pioneer 900 is around $1,600. I know they're not the same feature wise but it's the flagship mixer for Traktor who is slowly prying users away from Serato.

I remember when $500 for a Vestax 05 was like "DAMN!! That's EXPENSIVE!"

None of the new ones are over $2k retail. Those are all list prices. Just like the DJM-900 list price is $2399.

when it comes to mixers from Rane, I see it like the Apple Tax. You pay a higher price for quality gear & great customer support. Lets keep in mind that the Rane 57 came out in 06-ish. Six years with the 57 , with the 62, it might be around for 6-7 years. thats a good turn around for a mixer.

pioneer 900 + sl4 = 2300 - 2500

pioneer 900 + traktor pro 2 = 2200 - 2400

program stability - ssl
customer support - ssl
most adopted by clubs and dj's - ssl

Any more questions?

i want fries too.

dig around your car I'm sure you can find 99 cents...

i did this morning 2 for 2 @ Carls Jr.

But you did have a point with the Pio gear stuff. Everyone is getting all wrapped up with the price of a mixer thats not out.

so do people think the ttm 57 is worth nothing anymore?? GTFO check this out losangeles.craigslist.org

I love my 57.... it's in extremely good condition. It is NOT for sale. I would rather buy another set of decks to go with the 62 and retire my current rig to the bedroom. Even getting new headphones and Crane lol.

Im debating selling both 57's, case and my HC 1000 ...

pretty much sure i am...

everything that I wanted fixed on the 57 and liked about the 68 is in the 62...except the button materials...but im already working on a fix for that...so...think its time.

4 years with one mixer is longer than Ive ever spent anyways...

Cant imagine anything I would want to do with a set of decks that this mixer wont already do...either Im not creative enough or they hit it on the head.

hahaha, same here! I remember I wanted the 07 so bad but just graduated high school and had no money so had to get the 05 which was great anyway.

Shit... I though the mixstick was expensive. but..... Hamster switch!!!

i bought the first generation of the 05 pro for $699!!!!!

I'm selling 2 of my 57s and keeping the 3rd one. Gonna get 2 of the 62s to replace the 57s that I sell

i thought around $300 for a dmc mixer that was gonna take a beating on the fader was expensive....

inlfation

do you operate all 3 of those mixers simultaneously Mr. Squidly Didley?

1 to use the other for display, kinda like the vinyl collectors...

No, I keep 3 different setups.
1) 2-1210M5Gs in a coffin with a TTM-57 for mobile gigs
2) 2-1200MK2s + TTM-57 in the studio
3) 2-1200MK2s + TTM-57 in individual flight cases for bar/club gigs where I have to bring turntables because the venue either has shitty equipment or CDJs

The M5Gs for mobiles? Damn son.... my M5Gs ARE my studio decks. MK5s for road decks

Yeah, mobile gigs like weddings and corporate parties where everything has to look pretty...lol

I agree....my M5Gs are my road decks too...my MK2s stay at home...presentation goes a long way when it comes to mobiles....

Has anybody else noticed...

I've been regularly checking ebay to see for 57SLs going cheap from people that want to upgrade. Yet all the ones I've seen have been listed with starting bids of $1600+ (aud) and all used for over a year.
Yet I can get them new for $50 more.

If it was just one or two I'd think they were dreamers but I've seen about 6 at these prices.

I never thought I'd seriously consider buying a mixer that cost more than my laptop

i'll be listing mine shortly (as soon as i get my 62 lol) starting at $0.99 no reserve. i'll let market dictate price. none of that reserve price bullshit.

I'm JUST sitting here like, that damn 62 can be the cost of a good used hoopty.

sure. but the hoopty would still be just a hoopty while the 62 is a brand new lambo!

Hmmm...but my stepdaughter can't use a 62 to commute to school...(NM)

lol

Neither did i sir, neither did I.......

perhaps. but if you are in a quandry as far as what to purchase, a hoopty vs a 62, then you've probably got some other issues that need your immediate attention first...

If you're using them to play out, you should have your papers together and write them off as a business expense. I know I am. Most likely will get a 57 though (already have TSP2), just so I can be able to show up with just CV's & a hard drive.

market always set the price. if nobody buys it the price will drop. thats how are marlet works and should be that way.

with all these 2nd Rane 57 that are about to flood the market, it would be nice for clubs to pick them up instead of having the bodega ass mixers

+1,000,000

MY sat residency owners have 3-4 clubs all with $100 numarks installed!

AGREED!!!

I don't think this is true. I just purchased a 62 for $1586 shipped. I won't give dealer name on here but if you need one hit me up and ill let you know. 62 for just under 1600 and 61 for just over 1100. I also sold my 57sl on ebay two days ago and it brought in $860. I guess i just had bad timing on my auction because most of them seem to go for $900-$1000.

No, I'm not at a crossroad (NM), just looking at prices and potential...

Tax Rebate season is here, and I have to stay FOCUSED....lol.

ok, gotcha...just buy the new gear and stay current for a change old man! :)

Here we GO AGAIN! First off, I'm probably ONE OF THE 1ST to get the Rane SL3 when it came out in April of whatever year....AND ONE OF THE 1ST here to get the 56S...

Now factor in my ability to still CRUSH it with a Realistic, don't y'all get it that the EQUIPMENT doesn't make the MAN, the SKILLS do? (NM)

****BEGIN***PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT***BEGIN****

In no shape form or fashion does that statement describe my SEX LIFE, as my "EQUIPMENT" is STILL BIG and BULKY, while MOST of you are rocking the DOWNSIZED Edition!

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hahahahahaaaaaa, isn't this thread about the new 62 mixer, how did it get to talking about peoples sex life


and another thing weren't you saying you were going to keep a small setup, zxa5's?

Yes Sir..........

From the two dealers I have talked to that price is pretty much at cost.

i agree with rebelguy...

I have to agree with you on this and all points..

people tend to forget that the effects are post fader on the 62 and 61 and 68.....

62 has built in effects. The T1 does not hav any effects at all built in.

Just a little thought...since were debating...
The built in America thing should matter MORE to Americans since we are more directly connected to the company economically. As well as the fact it has market share here in North America, much as a European based company has a majority market share in Europe.

However in this GLOBAL based economy the North American and European economies are tied together tighter than all but those using the EURO. Rane may play a extremely small part in that puzzle but its still a part, however small its size.

Outsourcing even just the assembly and shipping would substantially cut costs...but doesn’t that mean that even PIONEERS stuff should be way cheaper as well? Were not even talking the same cost of parts in the T1....

And does not the warranty "standard 2 year in the EU" still come from: RANE?
I doubt the EU government warranties the product for you??? Or did I miss understand that line?

*PIONEER's

And if they did that then people would've complained that they're not gonna buy a new mixer just for one upgrade
yes the software can handle the onboard effects but I guess you seem to forget that you have no visual control of the effects if you use the mixer without SSL or if you control effects for a different audio source via midi
Research & Development costs money, Markerting costs money, Employees have to be paid.
It makes a difference because labor in the USA isn't cheap like labor in Malaysia or 3rd world countries
If you want great tech support then those people have to be paid their worth Then get a DJM-T1. Nobody's forcing you to get a Rane 62, It purely and option. And let's be honest. I doubt if anybody with any sense is gonna actually pay $2,000 for the 62. If you know how to shop around you should be able to get it for at least $1750.

But I alsow wonder, with all these people complaining about the price of the 62, what the hell are you guys charging for your gigs? How do you sell yourself to a promoter/manager/owner/client? How do you justify your rate vs the next DJ or are you one of the undercutter?

whos the company offering this?

I call BS, i talked to my buddy that he's an assistant manager at an undisclosed GC and he said that he wouldn't sell the 62 for $1586 to his own mother!

i found it for @1,720 @PAS, i also found it for $1,645, in another place already preordered two

if you think the price is "too high" in the US, the price in the UK is £1800 which works out at $2853

I would love it to be the equivalent to $2000 in the UK as that would be £1261 :-) which is only £161 more than the 57 is selling for right now.

that is us prices

found it for $1596 from a reputable dealer....come on guys, put your skirts on and learn to shop like a woman! lol

Yup...

Well, the word is definitely out. The 62 can be bought for $1,596.68.....

it's only $50 cheaper, but still a good price was that total cost out the door?

the z hun, so the regular should be $100 cheaper

no, the z is 90 bucks more...

The Z is less than $100 from the price I already posted.

I mean.. yeah... less than $100 more. Thanks latindj. nm

if the z is $1586 than the regular 62 should be $1486

^screwed that up...

where did I say Z in my original post?

I'd love to see a scaned copy of their pre order slip for $1596.68

either way it doesn't matter to me we are making money with it, it will pay for itself

^exactly