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"Real DJs use vinyl"

DJ SethV 5:20 AM - 31 March, 2013
I started my DJ career using a MIDI controller with Virtual DJ. Seeing as I primarily do weddings this was the best option. It wasn't until a few years later I started dabbling in bars and clubs. My mixing was great (I will admit I was a sync button fiend), I used effects, and always kept up with what was hot. Although I was doing a great job I never got credit because "real DJs use turn tables". Most clubs and bars in my area provide the standard Technic 1200 set up with a Pioneer mixer. Not wanting to be the oddball I purchased a set of 1200s, a Pioneer DJM-900, an SL2,and got to practicing. I never really paid much attention to what mode most "real DJs used" when using Serato. I was under the impression that the only way to be a "real DJ" was to run Serato in absolute mode, so I did. I was shocked to find out that most DJs use their turn tables in relative mode. My question to all my Serato brethren is; What is the difference between a MIDI dj using Serato, and a turn table user in relative mode? Especially the fellows with the Novation Dicers, or Denon HC-1000. Realizing the expense of turn tables I decided to go back to my MIDI roots. For weddings I use a Denon 4500 with SSL, and for bars / clubs I use a Pioneer DDJ-SX with Serato DJ. I guess I've reverted back to being a "fake DJ".

I'd love to see who on these forums actually uses Serato in absolute mode. In my opinion SSL in relative mode, especially with add on controllers, is about the same as a MIDI only set up. I am not starting this thread to bash anyone, as any type of DJ requires skill. I'm just curious to know if anyone out there uses absolute mode with vinyl.
 6 5:41 AM - 31 March, 2013
You first need to understand what the difference is TODAY between absolute vs relative mode. If you're using, Drop To Absolute Position in Relative mode, all you're doing is really using Relative mode so your vinyl won't skip. That's it. There is no auto sync in SSL so you're not benefiting much from that.

The whole purpose of using vinyl is to have more control not so much for blending but for whatever else that can be done with turntables.

You shouldn't think about what makes it real but rather what works for you. I've seen DJs who suck using turntables and those who suck using controllers or CDJ's. A DJ is only as good as how well he uses the tools as his/her disposal.
DJ Art Pumpin Payne 6:29 AM - 31 March, 2013
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There is no auto sync in SSL so you're not benefiting much from that.

^^^This...

Plus turntables (and a Mac) look "cooler"

: )
DJ Matty Stiles 9:27 AM - 31 March, 2013
as soon as i got serato I used absolute mode because it felt natural coming from a traditional setup. I used it for about 2 years, and noticed all the other DJs were using rel. So I prettymuch forced myself to use absolute mode and what a difference it makes. It improved my workflow SO much espescially with drop to first cue point turned on. Man, I could mix songs so fast now. No more bringing the needle to the beginning of the record, it was all done instantly. It's so tempting to quick mix everything and now I have to force myself to let the songs play out. and CUE points and loops and dicers... man i was in heaven
DJ Matty Stiles 9:28 AM - 31 March, 2013
opps typo
DJRemixEnt 11:58 AM - 31 March, 2013
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A DJ is only as good as how well he uses the tools as his/her disposal.


this, for the most part... but ppl tend to give you more respect when you roll up with with a set of tts.
Mike_P 2:56 PM - 31 March, 2013
The ONLY reason so many use relative mode is cues and loops. That is all.
REDSELECTER 3:35 PM - 31 March, 2013
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DJRemixEnt 5:56 PM - 31 March, 2013
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The ONLY reason so many use relative mode is cues and loops. That is all.


and control vinyl wear...rel mode makes it last sooooooo much longer
DJ Michael Basic 6:05 PM - 31 March, 2013
I'd love to hear a mix from you SethV.

I'm someone who's always been outspoken in saying, "I don't care how a DJ rocks a party, as long as they can rock the party."

Use vinyl, a controller, a harmonica, I don't care what you do, if you can rock it you get respect from me.

That said, I've DJ'd for a living for the past 8 years now, and I've NEVER met a single DJ who learned on a controller with auto sync who has been able to stand up to a DJ who knows how to spin on vinyl.

I'd love to hear a mix from you to prove that stereotype wrong.
DJ SethV 6:52 PM - 31 March, 2013
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I'd love to hear a mix from you SethV.

I'm someone who's always been outspoken in saying, "I don't care how a DJ rocks a party, as long as they can rock the party."

Use vinyl, a controller, a harmonica, I don't care what you do, if you can rock it you get respect from me.

That said, I've DJ'd for a living for the past 8 years now, and I've NEVER met a single DJ who learned on a controller with auto sync who has been able to stand up to a DJ who knows how to spin on vinyl.

I'd love to hear a mix from you to prove that stereotype wrong.


#1 you missed the point of the original thread. #2 what type of mix do you want? Unlike most people in my shoes I forced myself to use turn tables. I'm no JazzyJeff, but I can hold my own, although I do prefer a controller. Both sides of the coin have there pros and cons. I was just curious to know if anyone still uses absolute mode. This wasn't a bashing or debate thread.
DJ Michael Basic 7:44 PM - 31 March, 2013
I'd bet that very few people use absolute mode. Likely, the only people who use it are folks who are extremely non-tech savvy or who are new to Serato. Year ago when many of us started using Serato, we all started on absolute because it was closest to vinyl. Slowly, everyone started switching to absolute mode when we realized how powerful it was.

I didn't really miss the point of your post...the real crux of your question was, what's the real difference between a controller and vinyl in relative mode.

In my opinion...and remember this is only my opinion...I believe that you learn a certain set of DJ fundamentals when you learn to mix vinyl that you don't get on CDJs or controllers. I've played on everything, and the control you get with vinyl is yet to be matched by a controller.

I don't think controllers are inferior, and I think there are some DJs who have switched from vinyl to controllers who are absolutely dope, but I've personally never heard a DJ who learned on a controller and didn't take the time to learn to DJ with vinyl who was really dope.

Given that you did make the switch to vinyl, my view gives you props...even if you end up going back to DJing on a controller, you've spent the time to learn to mix properly with turntables, which will make you a better DJ even on a controller.

I'm not bashing you, or trying to start a debate. Just pointing out that the benefits of learning to DJ with turntables go beyond what you can do with them, and extend down into the fundamentals of being a DJ.
 6 8:01 PM - 31 March, 2013
"Year ago when many of us started using Serato, we all started on absolute because it was closest to vinyl. Slowly, everyone started switching to RELATIVE mode when we realized how powerful it was."

I'm sure that's what you meant.

At any rate, I switched to relative mode when it became more like absolute mode (drop to absolute position). I also use internal mode when using one turntable and when I'm about to run out of time code, I switch to internal then back to relative.
Dj R. Driver 9:24 PM - 31 March, 2013
there is nothing compared to touching your first 12 inch. no homo
dj_soo 11:53 PM - 31 March, 2013
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I'd love to hear a mix from you SethV.

I'm someone who's always been outspoken in saying, "I don't care how a DJ rocks a party, as long as they can rock the party."

Use vinyl, a controller, a harmonica, I don't care what you do, if you can rock it you get respect from me.

That said, I've DJ'd for a living for the past 8 years now, and I've NEVER met a single DJ who learned on a controller with auto sync who has been able to stand up to a DJ who knows how to spin on vinyl.

I'd love to hear a mix from you to prove that stereotype wrong.


I have a buddy that does rock a harmonica during his sets actually...
DJ Dynamight 10:48 PM - 1 April, 2013
I use Absolute mode with turntables or CDJs 99% of the time.

I switch to Relative mode those few times when I need to jump to a cue point, then I switch it back to Absolute when I'm done with that song.
ConstantElevation 11:07 PM - 1 April, 2013
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and the control you get with vinyl is yet to be matched by a controller.


im sorry not trying to start some bs convo... but what kind of control? i mean if you are doing Turntablism ok i understand vynil would be the way to go.... but to rock a party?? fuck is you doing lol a controller offers the same kind of "Control" Vinyl would... if anything you have way more control with a controller then vinyl in my opinion.... Pitch bend on the jog wheels which you can manipulate to YOUR total liking pitch bending button... scratching (good enough for a party plus most Djs i hear scratching in parties dont really do any fancy Scratches) Effect controls cue point control even sample controls?? if you think relative mode is awesome? then using a full controller that is on the higher end or at least 500 bucks or so makes you into a mother fucking mack daddy when it comes to DJing... hands down the shit you can do is mind blowing.
 6 11:19 PM - 1 April, 2013
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and the control you get with vinyl is yet to be matched by a controller.


im sorry not trying to start some bs convo... but what kind of control? i mean if you are doing Turntablism ok i understand vynil would be the way to go.... but to rock a party?? fuck is you doing lol a controller offers the same kind of "Control" Vinyl would... if anything you have way more control with a controller then vinyl in my opinion.... Pitch bend on the jog wheels which you can manipulate to YOUR total liking pitch bending button... scratching (good enough for a party plus most Djs i hear scratching in parties dont really do any fancy Scratches) Effect controls cue point control even sample controls?? if you think relative mode is awesome? then using a full controller that is on the higher end or at least 500 bucks or so makes you into a mother fucking mack daddy when it comes to DJing... hands down the shit you can do is mind blowing.


Well, I mean... you can use an iPod and still rock a party. I figured when you're talking about turntables, you must refer to turntablism. If all you're doing is blending, then definitely go controller. But, it is still a matter of preference and most people who have touched a turntable agree that it "feels" better. nm
ConstantElevation 11:37 PM - 1 April, 2013
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Well, I mean... you can use an iPod and still rock a party. I figured when you're talking about turntables, you must refer to turntablism. If all you're doing is blending, then definitely go controller. But, it is still a matter of preference and most people who have touched a turntable agree that it "feels" better. nm




i fully understand the "preference".... thing is a lot of cats don't use TT to do turntablism i think we can all agree on that.. specially if you are a club dj and not even close to being a battle dj... i see a club dj and a battle dj as two different fields... i mean tons of crazy battle dj's but they can mix or really rock a crowd... like wise tons of great club djs but can't scratch to save their lives..... i was just saying since it seems like this is more gear towards CLUB DJ's then the control is 100 % same for both vinyl and a controller... mind you even if you DROP your tracks instead of mixing (kid capri style) then either way both set ups work fine... i have never come across a decent mid range controller that doesn't offer GOOD SCRATCHING JOG WHEELS... all of them come pretty standard now so that you can do some basic to mid level scratching...... but yes i agree any dj gets my respect long as he can mix cleanly and his song selection is tight... the whole scratching vinyl bull shit most old school cats give you "you are not a real dj" is they are hating. i don't give a fuck what you use in a club scenario... long as you don't SCREAM & SHOUT a lot and keep the dropping tracks to a minimal... your fucking awesome
 6 11:46 PM - 1 April, 2013
No doubt... I just (like many other I'm sure) can't stand jog wheels. lol

But I hear what you're saying (or read rather).

nm
Code:E 6:16 AM - 2 April, 2013
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What is the difference between a MIDI dj using Serato, and a turn table user in relative mode?

Nothing
DJ Matty Stiles 6:27 AM - 2 April, 2013
Gimme a vinyl platter over a 2 inch controller platter any day. Plus you forgot to mention vinyl is a moving platter which is important
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:00 AM - 2 April, 2013
Mathamaticlly speaking TTs give you much more accurare control since it has a greater circumferance
 6 12:17 PM - 2 April, 2013
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What is the difference between a MIDI dj using Serato, and a turn table user in relative mode?

Nothing


If you believe this, you better go back and study your lessons.

nm
DJ DisGrace 12:41 PM - 2 April, 2013
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What is the difference between a MIDI dj using Serato, and a turn table user in relative mode?

Nothing


If you believe this, you better go back and study your lessons.

nm

+1

Tactile control and feedback are underestimated by CDJ and controller djs
Roy Levi 1:35 PM - 2 April, 2013
Real DJ controllers have vinyl

NS7 'nough said
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:37 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Real DJ controllers have vinyl

NS7 'nough said

.....stops tracking
Roy Levi 2:40 PM - 2 April, 2013
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Real DJ controllers have vinyl

NS7 'nough said

.....stops tracking


Sorry, guess I was a little bored :P
Mr. Goodkat 7:52 PM - 2 April, 2013
even if you take away the actual record aspect, the tt gives a much different feel than the exact preciseness of cdjs or controllers. to me there is a little lag that most tt users know and can anticipate, compared to cdjs. ive been playing on cdj 2000s on my thurs nite, and it just doesnt feel natural. feels precise, but too precise.
 6 8:01 PM - 2 April, 2013
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even if you take away the actual record aspect, the tt gives a much different feel than the exact preciseness of cdjs or controllers. to me there is a little lag that most tt users know and can anticipate, compared to cdjs. ive been playing on cdj 2000s on my thurs nite, and it just doesnt feel natural. feels precise, but too precise.


Yeah... it's almost as if CDJ's take away the "soul" of DJing because it feels too technical.

I don't know if that makes sense.

nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:05 PM - 2 April, 2013
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even if you take away the actual record aspect, the tt gives a much different feel than the exact preciseness of cdjs or controllers. to me there is a little lag that most tt users know and can anticipate, compared to cdjs. ive been playing on cdj 2000s on my thurs nite, and it just doesnt feel natural. feels precise, but too precise.

Very true...i acutually like the more presice feel but im much more comfortable with the vinyl feel
monchi 8:09 PM - 2 April, 2013
So where is the MIX, Dj Basic Michael asked for?
DJ DisGrace 8:17 PM - 2 April, 2013
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even if you take away the actual record aspect, the tt gives a much different feel than the exact preciseness of cdjs or controllers. to me there is a little lag that most tt users know and can anticipate, compared to cdjs. ive been playing on cdj 2000s on my thurs nite, and it just doesnt feel natural. feels precise, but too precise.


Yeah... it's almost as if CDJ's take away the "soul" of DJing because it feels too technical.

I don't know if that makes sense.

nm

First time I did a retro/rock format night on CDJs I was soooo bored. No turntable flutter to contend with, felt like I was cheating!
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:19 PM - 2 April, 2013
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even if you take away the actual record aspect, the tt gives a much different feel than the exact preciseness of cdjs or controllers. to me there is a little lag that most tt users know and can anticipate, compared to cdjs. ive been playing on cdj 2000s on my thurs nite, and it just doesnt feel natural. feels precise, but too precise.


Yeah... it's almost as if CDJ's take away the "soul" of DJing because it feels too technical.

I don't know if that makes sense.

nm

First time I did a retro/rock format night on CDJs I was soooo bored. No turntable flutter to contend with, felt like I was cheating!


Yup its a strange feeling because its a comforting feeling yet it feels so wrong at the same time nh nm naj
Mr. Goodkat 8:57 PM - 2 April, 2013
the pitch has to be a little loose, tight pitches are just too touchy for me. :)
Laz219 10:03 PM - 2 April, 2013
When I play on CDJs, occasionally I nudge tracks out of beat that were perfectly locked just because I'm so used to making constant small adjustments.
It's almost like people talking about wanting sync to give them 'more time to be creative' ...when I use CDJs it feels like I hardly have to do anything to have the tracks running perfectly together, so I have all this free time in which I stand there, bored. Not 'being creative'
 6 10:17 PM - 2 April, 2013
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When I play on CDJs, occasionally I nudge tracks out of beat that were perfectly locked just because I'm so used to making constant small adjustments.
It's almost like people talking about wanting sync to give them 'more time to be creative' ...when I use CDJs it feels like I hardly have to do anything to have the tracks running perfectly together, so I have all this free time in which I stand there, bored. Not 'being creative'


And that's why that argument of being more creative with auto-sync has always failed to produce any proof.

Mixing is so second nature to me that I just do it so fast and without much thought. New DJ's always trip at how fast I can match beats by ear. nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:51 PM - 2 April, 2013
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When I play on CDJs, occasionally I nudge tracks out of beat that were perfectly locked just because I'm so used to making constant small adjustments.
It's almost like people talking about wanting sync to give them 'more time to be creative' ...when I use CDJs it feels like I hardly have to do anything to have the tracks running perfectly together, so I have all this free time in which I stand there, bored. Not 'being creative'


And that's why that argument of being more creative with auto-sync has always failed to produce any proof.

Mixing is so second nature to me that I just do it so fast and without much thought. New DJ's always trip at how fast I can match beats by ear. nm



lol true story, a noob dj was watchin me a few weeks ago and was like daaaamn you beatmatch fast, i was like dude both songs were 128?!
Mr. Goodkat 11:44 PM - 2 April, 2013
'fix it in the mix' has entered their vocab yet.

i like that look though, like a tracks running out, you are playing something really simple uptempo, and you mix a track in, and you see that, 'how did he do that so fast???????'
Laz219 12:00 AM - 3 April, 2013
That's the reason I can't decide whether or not to have 'lock playing decks' turned on or not. I've had it before where I've been surprised by the end of a song, and quickly drop a track onto the other deck, nudge it into place and it's all good.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:02 AM - 3 April, 2013
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'fix it in the mix' has entered their vocab yet.

i like that look though, like a tracks running out, you are playing something really simple uptempo, and you mix a track in, and you see that, 'how did he do that so fast???????'



you know what the best feeling it....when you not paying attn, you notice tracks running out, you grab a track and drop it and it sounds GREAT and everyones like how did he do that and in your head your like......serously how the fuck DID i do that lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:02 AM - 3 April, 2013
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That's the reason I can't decide whether or not to have 'lock playing decks' turned on or not. I've had it before where I've been surprised by the end of a song, and quickly drop a track onto the other deck, nudge it into place and it's all good.

i never use lock playing deck
 6 12:02 AM - 3 April, 2013
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'fix it in the mix' has entered their vocab yet.

i like that look though, like a tracks running out, you are playing something really simple uptempo, and you mix a track in, and you see that, 'how did he do that so fast???????'



you know what the best feeling it....when you not paying attn, you notice tracks running out, you grab a track and drop it and it sounds GREAT and everyones like how did he do that and in your head your like......serously how the fuck DID i do that lol


lol
Dj R. Driver 12:09 AM - 3 April, 2013
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'fix it in the mix' has entered their vocab yet.

i like that look though, like a tracks running out, you are playing something really simple uptempo, and you mix a track in, and you see that, 'how did he do that so fast???????'



you know what the best feeling it....when you not paying attn, you notice tracks running out, you grab a track and drop it and it sounds GREAT and everyones like how did he do that and in your head your like......serously how the fuck DID i do that lol



yup, did that last second running back from the bathroom lol
 6 12:16 AM - 3 April, 2013
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'fix it in the mix' has entered their vocab yet.

i like that look though, like a tracks running out, you are playing something really simple uptempo, and you mix a track in, and you see that, 'how did he do that so fast???????'



you know what the best feeling it....when you not paying attn, you notice tracks running out, you grab a track and drop it and it sounds GREAT and everyones like how did he do that and in your head your like......serously how the fuck DID i do that lol



yup, did that last second running back from the bathroom lol


True story...

I saw this DJ run to the bathroom and I can hear the music coming to an end and I see the DJ running to the DJ booth to change the song AND HE TRIPS AND EATS IT. The music runs out. Complete silence and everyone is laughing at him.

Wish I could have recorded it. hahaha

nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:26 AM - 3 April, 2013
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'fix it in the mix' has entered their vocab yet.

i like that look though, like a tracks running out, you are playing something really simple uptempo, and you mix a track in, and you see that, 'how did he do that so fast???????'



you know what the best feeling it....when you not paying attn, you notice tracks running out, you grab a track and drop it and it sounds GREAT and everyones like how did he do that and in your head your like......serously how the fuck DID i do that lol



yup, did that last second running back from the bathroom lol


True story...

I saw this DJ run to the bathroom and I can hear the music coming to an end and I see the DJ running to the DJ booth to change the song AND HE TRIPS AND EATS IT. The music runs out. Complete silence and everyone is laughing at him.

Wish I could have recorded it. hahaha

nm



oh i can beat that....went to the downstairs section to buy a ......ummmm....drink...from my boy for this chick who was .....thirsty......thought i turned on a loop at the end but didnt, came back upstairs to an entire dance floor looking at me confused since the music had been off for about a minute and a half, got on the mic and said i had to break up a fight downstairs, dropped some jeezy noone knew the wiser lol
ConstantElevation 1:48 AM - 3 April, 2013
for sure conrtollers are more precise... but the BPM analyzer is not always on point... so even though i only used controllers i always find my self making adjustments (pitch bending) and even moving the pitch fader since sometimes i like to blend in more then 32 beats.... so \('_')/ that my friends takes a certain level of skill and i never find my self bored mixing on controllers matter fact i am always moving wrong switching bwt effects/samples/loops shit i am always doing something plus on top of that interacting with the crowd. shit trust me you are only BORED cause your either doing the same mix every single time or you just don't have the creative bug in you no more.... or you are tired of the same shit different day....



and now on some random shit that happen to me... once i was playing and like a dick head i forgot to plug in my laptop with 50 % batt... i didn't realize until i notice my Batt blinking RED with 1 % batt left... i said On shit!!! so i left the song and ran across the room past mofos like i was running away form the cops... grabbed the damn charging cable ran back to the booth like i was the Flash!! plug the charger and just as i was about to stick the last end to my laptop, it fucking DIES!! total silence with eyes on me and all you hear soon as the screen blacks out the sound dies... FUCK! most awkward moment i ever experience :-(
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:50 AM - 3 April, 2013
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for sure conrtollers are more precise... (

thats true as far as avoidng wobble and flutter but as i said before, speaking mathmatically larger circumference = more persice movments, thats why captians steering wheels are big as hell and car steering wheels are about as big as a 12 inch record
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:51 AM - 3 April, 2013
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and now on some random shit that happen to me... once i was playing and like a dick head i forgot to plug in my laptop with 50 % batt... i didn't realize until i notice my Batt blinking RED with 1 % batt left... i said On shit!!! so i left the song and ran across the room past mofos like i was running away form the cops... grabbed the damn charging cable ran back to the booth like i was the Flash!! plug the charger and just as i was about to stick the last end to my laptop, it fucking DIES!! total silence with eyes on me and all you hear soon as the screen blacks out the sound dies... FUCK! most awkward moment i ever experience :-(

had that happen to me at a big gig....luckily it was RIGHT as the next guy wzs settin up so it looked like an equipment change lol
DJ DisGrace 1:57 AM - 3 April, 2013
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shit trust me you are only BORED cause your either doing the same mix every single time or you just don't have the creative bug in you no more.... or you are tired of the same shit different day....

Cool story, bro. You obviously missed the point of my post.

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First time I did a retro/rock format night on CDJs I was soooo bored. No turntable flutter to contend with, felt like I was cheating!
 6 2:29 AM - 3 April, 2013
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for sure conrtollers are more precise... but the BPM analyzer is not always on point... so even though i only used controllers i always find my self making adjustments (pitch bending) and even moving the pitch fader since sometimes i like to blend in more then 32 beats.... so \('_')/ that my friends takes a certain level of skill and i never find my self bored mixing on controllers matter fact i am always moving wrong switching bwt effects/samples/loops shit i am always doing something plus on top of that interacting with the crowd. shit trust me you are only BORED cause your either doing the same mix every single time or you just don't have the creative bug in you no more.... or you are tired of the same shit different day....



and now on some random shit that happen to me... once i was playing and like a dick head i forgot to plug in my laptop with 50 % batt... i didn't realize until i notice my Batt blinking RED with 1 % batt left... i said On shit!!! so i left the song and ran across the room past mofos like i was running away form the cops... grabbed the damn charging cable ran back to the booth like i was the Flash!! plug the charger and just as i was about to stick the last end to my laptop, it fucking DIES!! total silence with eyes on me and all you hear soon as the screen blacks out the sound dies... FUCK! most awkward moment i ever experience :-(


Oh damn. Wow. lol

nm
DJ GaFFle 3:34 AM - 3 April, 2013
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the bitch has to be a little loose, tight bitches are just too touchy for me. :)

So you like Sloppy seconds I see :-)
(NM)

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there is nothing compared to touching your first 12 inch. no homo

This Sir, Requires Not Only your posted (NH) but also an (NM) designation.
(NM)
Mr. Goodkat 7:53 AM - 3 April, 2013
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the bitch has to be a little loose, tight bitches are just too touchy for me. :)

So you like Sloppy seconds I see :-)
(NM)


see what i did there...
Dj R. Driver 8:28 AM - 3 April, 2013
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the bitch has to be a little loose, tight bitches are just too touchy for me. :)

So you like Sloppy seconds I see :-)
(NM)

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there is nothing compared to touching your first 12 inch. no homo

This Sir, Requires Not Only your posted (NH) but also an (NM) designation.
(NM)


lol
Taipanic 7:48 PM - 5 April, 2013
DJing from the mid 80's until now, I have used a lot of new technology that wasn't viewed as "real DJing"
Technics SL-P1200s
Denon 2000f
Denon 2500f
Denon DN-M2300-r
Reel to Reel
Drum Machines
Samplers
Each one of those allowed me to improve my mix in ways that couldn't be done previously.
These days, I prefer the spinning platter Denons. Most of the joy of TTs, with none of the hassles - dust on the needle, warped records, needle skipping, bad control signal, etc...
I do still enjoy using TTs, even more for just listening to music, rather than performing.
SiRocket 10:17 AM - 6 April, 2013
drop to cue point with marker easter egg is the business.... until that is matched, i'm not interested in any cd sized platters, if i wanted 7 inch platters i would use my 7inch promo control vinyl...... lol
SELECT 2:36 PM - 6 April, 2013
Thank you Serato.

Mid 2000's I used to walk into clubs with turntables and 4 crates of records. Club managers and other DJs used to ask me why I was still using them. Turntables/vinyl was dead, it was all about CDJs, CD books & Mp3s. Those same clubs & Djs are now using turntables. I was ahead of the curve. True story bro lol.
DJ Reflex 3:13 PM - 6 April, 2013
The pendulum always swings back to its original position!
dj_soo 6:39 PM - 6 April, 2013
I believe "real Djs" should at least know how to use vinyl...
monchi 6:49 PM - 6 April, 2013
So Dj SethV were is the MIX?
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:46 PM - 6 April, 2013
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I believe "real Djs" should at least know how to use vinyl...

sigh
Dj R. Driver 12:49 AM - 7 April, 2013
mixing phonographs is what real dj should know. taking it back son!
 6 2:26 AM - 7 April, 2013
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mixing photographs is what real dj should know. taking it back son!


I think that's call a memory game. nm
DJ Matty Stiles 4:56 PM - 7 April, 2013
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Thank you Serato.

Mid 2000's I used to walk into clubs with turntables and 4 crates of records. Club managers and other DJs used to ask me why I was still using them. Turntables/vinyl was dead, it was all about CDJs, CD books & Mp3s. Those same clubs & Djs are now using turntables. I was ahead of the curve. True story bro lol.

same in my hood, but no ones gone back to Techs - its all still CDJs My residency had thier old 1200's lying in their store room, untoched for god knows how long. Now whenever I have a set there, they leave em out for me :) Sets me apart from the rest using vinyl. Now sometimes they forget to take the technics down and the other DJs come and in and they speak to the club owners.... errr.... I can't play vinyl only CDs, can you please bring me some CDJs. hahahahaha
ConstantElevation 3:44 AM - 8 April, 2013
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Now sometimes they forget to take the technics down and the other DJs come and in and they speak to the club owners.... errr.... I can't play vinyl only CDs, can you please bring me some CDJs. hahahahaha


actually that is irrelevant now... all one needs is a laptop and a mixer or the rca/xlr to the sound system to plug into the controller. SPACE SAVING EQUIPMENT plus easy set up anywhere with any system. universal Djing
DJ Matty Stiles 11:50 AM - 8 April, 2013
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actually that is irrelevant now... all one needs is a laptop and a mixer or the rca/xlr to the sound system to plug into the controller. SPACE SAVING EQUIPMENT plus easy set up anywhere with any system. universal Djing

thank god in my country, and in my scene, if you have a controller, you can't get gigs. If you brought a controller to a gig, management / promoters will laugh at you and youll never get booked again. Lets hope it stays that way!
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:37 PM - 8 April, 2013
Ive seen it all now, went to a party sat night and there was a group of 4 djs on stage at once all playing off the same laptop...no tts no cdjs didnt see a controller just 4 djs on a stage smushed together starring at a macbook screen
DJ Reflex 6:38 PM - 8 April, 2013
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DJ DisGrace 7:58 PM - 8 April, 2013
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Swedish House Mafia?
haveboard 9:14 PM - 8 April, 2013
I recently had someone telling me a story about how they came to the bar I DJ at (they have 1200s) to DJ themselves and they were super bummed/disappointed that... get this... THERE WERE NO NEEDLES!

When I told him he should have his own needles he looked at me puzzled. That was the end of that conversation.
Laz219 10:46 PM - 8 April, 2013
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Ive seen it all now, went to a party sat night and there was a group of 4 djs on stage at once all playing off the same laptop...no tts no cdjs didnt see a controller just 4 djs on a stage smushed together starring at a macbook screen


Part of the trend of everyone being a DJ now has also seemed to bring up a heap of duos/crews which I guess must be influenced by how many big acts appear with a couple of people behind the decks. So they suddenly decide that is the way to do it, even if they have no concept of what those people are actually doing.
DJ Reflex 11:19 PM - 8 April, 2013
Sounds like a DJ joke...

"How many DJ's does it take??? - "
Dj-M.Bezzle 11:55 PM - 8 April, 2013
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Sounds like a DJ joke...

"How many DJ's does it take??? - "



My fave

How many djs does it take to screw in a lightbulb

4 1 to screw it in 3 to complain that the original was better
 6 1:54 AM - 9 April, 2013
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I recently had someone telling me a story about how they came to the bar I DJ at (they have 1200s) to DJ themselves and they were super bummed/disappointed that... get this... THERE WERE NO NEEDLES!

When I told him he should have his own needles he looked at me puzzled. That was the end of that conversation.


Idiots... nm
Roy Levi 10:04 AM - 9 April, 2013
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How many djs does it take to screw in a lightbulb

4 1 to screw it in 3 to complain that the original was better


<3
d:raf 4:13 PM - 9 April, 2013
Speaking of vinyl, "real DJ's" and what not... who remembers this guy?

Watchwww.youtube.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:05 PM - 9 April, 2013
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Speaking of vinyl, "real DJ's" and what not... who remembers this guy?

Watchwww.youtube.com

.....i dont
d:raf 5:23 PM - 9 April, 2013
4 years earlier... Watchwww.youtube.com

(taken from this thread: serato.com )
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:22 PM - 9 April, 2013
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4 years earlier... Watchwww.youtube.com

(taken from this thread: serato.com )

Ooohhh ya the better than rafik guy
iye95 9:42 PM - 10 October, 2013
i had a 'dj' break my needles once by literally dragging them over the record- i was like 'wtf are you doing man you're gonna catch a slap' then he admitted he'd never touched a turntable before so dindnt really know what he was doing!!

the end of his 'set' was immediate. not soon enough for my poor needles though.
iye95 9:42 PM - 10 October, 2013
' i use CD's man sorry i havent used decks before'

speechless.
iye95 9:44 PM - 10 October, 2013
now there's a local drummer calling himself a DJ a few months after getting an mp3 controller and some VJing software'

its so tempting to go hack his arms off with a dubplate.
iye95 9:47 PM - 10 October, 2013
oh, and i use relavite, mainly due to drunken fools knocking the decks and jogging the needles at first but i do love the drop to que point and using que points etc, the main thing i miss is using the skill of stickering up records and having to be really careful putting the needle on so it gets pushed into place correctly - i used to buzz off that but the convenience of having thousands of songs available and using que points is indeed mighty...
DJ DisGrace 3:05 PM - 12 October, 2013
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now there's a local drummer calling himself a DJ a few months after getting an mp3 controller and some VJing software'

What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?



















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Dj R. Driver 9:42 PM - 12 October, 2013
real djs use music
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I believe "real Djs" should at least know how to use vinyl...



After reading this whole thing I just feel the need to sign up and leave this right here for you..... Watchwww.youtube.com
iye95 11:29 AM - 13 October, 2013
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now there's a local drummer calling himself a DJ a few months after getting an mp3 controller and some VJing software'

What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?
haha :)


















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iye95 11:30 AM - 13 October, 2013
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now there's a local drummer calling himself a DJ a few months after getting an mp3 controller and some VJing software'

What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?






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iye95 11:31 AM - 13 October, 2013
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What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?




Homeless
haha :)
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iye95 11:38 AM - 13 October, 2013
oopsd multi-post - why no 'delete' button! D'oh.

Class cassete mixing! proper old school!! reminds me of when i was a kid hah.