good condition techs should be your first choice. Failing that, the super OEM tables like Stanton STR8-150s are decent too...

Technics 1200/1210

Shure M44-7 needles. Setup to 2-3g weight.

Good slipmats.

also if youre completely new, i would practice and learn on a friend's gear if possible, because a lot of new people end up quitting and deciding djing is not for them and new gear can easily cost over $1000

Direct Drive

denver.craigslist.org

you should hang out with vajra

Here are the top 3 choices of Turntables. Most other brands/models are not up to DJ quality/ability:

Technics - 1200/1210
Stanton - STR-8
Numark - TTX-USB

Technics are considered the DJ standard but production stopped in 2011. They are tanks though, and can last 10+ years even with daily use. Prices range from $300-1000+ for each deck.

Fixed!

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2nd.. lol

I would get Techs no matter what.

+1 on being the dj standard for dj's that use turntables.

Ttxs will last u ten plus years as well... ive had this set of ttxs since 2004... and they sat in a outdoor storage unit in NC ...in 100% humidity...temps below freezzing and they have been dropped a couple times and still goin strong for 9 years.

Techs r so fuckin outdated and there r better decks with wayyyyy more features for less money that will kick techs ass up n down the street.

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I'm assumming that you are buying used so I will go over what to look for when buying Techs.

1. Make sure they turn on. Plug them in, turn on the power. The red light should come on.

2. Press play. You want to make sure that the platter moves smoothly.

3. Check the pitch. With the pitch at 0, the dots on the platter in the center should look like they are not moving or barely moving in the red light. If the center dots or moving with the pitch at 0, the pitch will need to be replaced. If the platter looks like the dots are moving fast and slow and you aren't changing the pitch, this is called the washer machine effect. That will have to be some parts replaced. I had it done and it's not a big deal.

4. Make sure the tone arm moves freely when you are holding it. If the lever to lift the tonearm is still there, lifting the lever up should make the tonearm rise and it should go in the direction towards the play button if a head shell is not on it. If a head shell is on it, it should go to the opposite direction.

5. Make sure all the feet are on the bottom

6. Make sure the RCA inputs and ground wires are in good shape

7. Try to play a record if needles are available with them. If the sound is bad, the needles and/or record may be dirty. That can be cleaned by yourself.

8. The option is the pop up light works. Most don't but if it does, that's a plus and sometimes a good sign that the turntable has been well kept.

That's all I can think of.
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9. If sound is not coming out, or if sound is oming out of one side, the RCA inputs may be bad. Soldering work would be required. Not a big deal either.
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So cheap ppl eant 5 to 800 here for a single tech

I paid the equivalent of 1000 dollars for two super mint technics 1210mk2s here in ireland. you can pick up a pair for 500 euros if they're a bit beat up but with a bit of love they would be back working 100%.

Techs look great, are the standard, and are easy to replace parts and maintain yourself. I'd go for technics if i were in your position.

Get shure m447 carts. Get your turntables serviced at the start and get the guy servicing to show you around them and just ask generally how to maintain them. You'll need to get them serviced eventually so might as well start with them in perfect working order, and knowing what you should do.

Actually if you want them serviced just send them to me

i'm surprised so many people would even consider anything but Technics. i probably wouldn't. i've used them all and would probably put Vestax PDX's at a very distant #2.

So ur suprised that ppl use better products?

Feature wise, maintenance wise, price wise, and performance... techs r pretty much bottom of the list.

Str8s , ttxs, & pdx have way better motors...larger pitch range...require no solder for rcas... no external ground... reversable motor... strt & stop adjustments...usb outs for direct recording of vinyl...built in digital key lock...detachable power cords... and all have been proven to take just as much of a beating as techs...

So y would someone new to the game spend 500 to 2000 on a beat up pair of tts, when they can spend 600 to 800 for somethin brand new and still under warranty? And has better reviews than the techs?

All that money saved can go to carts and accessories and even an extended warranty on gear

me too, id be too embarrassed to own anything else. id rather do without to be honest.

but where do i put my dicers? :P

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you bring up a good point but it's like arguing that Addidas are better than Nike. At the end of the day, people want a more recognizable brand with a proven track record of dependability. Techs on deck.
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alright, well now I'm getting a lot of mixed opinions. Everyone has a good point! haha. Can anyone tell me the main differences non-opinionated , between the 3 listed above? What makes them good quality, etc.? Is there an audio quality difference at all?

Thanks!! I will definitely refer back to this!

Well I'll put it to like this..... there are Technics - 1200/1210 and then there's the stuff poor people buy....

Technics - what is in 99% of all clubs. The standard all others are based on.
The others - updated features (USB, multiple pitch ranges, etc...)

Any of the three above will be good to learn on and perform on for a whole lifetime of DJing. If you master any of these, you should be able to use any of them in any situation.

OK, this is what you should do.

Go to craigslist and get 2 used techs

get 2 shure m44-7 needles. You can get them pre-mounted on a technics headshell

a pair of butterugs or tablecloths

I've had my techs since 1985.

How can you even say that?

Technics hands down. Look, feel and longevity. Look at all of the great scratchers, most of them are sponsored by vestax, stanton...etc. But when you see home videos, they are all usually on Technics 1200's. Plus you can usually sell them for the same price you buy them for, great resale.

"Dudes just be makin shit up"
coincidence, I got my first pair of 1200s in 85 also.

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I got mine out of a club that were under a whole bunch of crap in 09. They were in bad shape. Sent them to be repaired and never had a problem since.
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I just can't imagine spending my hard earned money on anything Numark.

Smdh... i thought ud b rational enough to see that the str8s ttxs and pdxs havnt been around since techs so you cant even use the "ive had my techs since 1985" arguement i know ppl who still have their ttxs since they bought them in 2002...ten years is an excellent track record for a tt....

taking a beating has nothing to do with longevity. Being dropped...sitting in hot cars during summers...spillin shit on them...etc..thats taking a beating. And those other tts have a rep for taking just as much of a beating as techs.

My ttxs are 9 years old and still running strong.... seing that ttxs were introduced in 2002... thats pretty fuckin good. I bought my original ttxs the day guitar center got them back in 2002 and those went bad only for the simple fact i was a dumb ass and pulled the platters off while power was still on.

Ive been on several deployments while in the Marines and my ttxs have been sitting in a storage unit in 100+ degrees with 100% humidity for months...and in the winter time in weather below 32 degrees.

Ive dropped them... dropped shit on them...upside down in cases...spilled beer n soda on them...etc.... still running strong.

When a person who doesnt even own tts and is interested in djing asks for help on a tt to buy for scratching... im gonna leave my opinion out of it and give straight black n white facts. And its stupid to suggest someone spending a shit load of money on "used gear" when 90 percent of ppl who try djing dont stick with it.

Techs r on the bottom of the list...feature wise...price wise...and maintenance wise... thats a fact and not an opinion.

Longevity is a given bcuz no prof tt has been on the market as long as techs...and the techs being club standard is true also..but that doesnt automatically make it the better turntable.

Your statement of 90% not sticking with it should warrant endorsing 1200's. since you can usually find a used pair for around $600 and resell them for around the same price.

BOOM.....
dam niro .....an he worked so hard on that argument....lol

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Techs and djing are like dick and pussy, it just goes together better.
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Did you just say you're going to give "straight facts" and then completely make up a number in the next sentence? lol

Back to the question, if you buy any of those 3 TTs you will be OK. I have no knowledge of the numarks, but between the stantons & Techs, you are never going to run across a scratch combo that can be done on one and not the other. You may have some people who say they "need" the extended pitch bend but that is because they are trying to execute mixes that simply should not be done. If you go with stantons or numarks, you are also going to run across plenty of traditionalists that are going to talk shit (obviously). If your skills are good enough to shut them up, that is fine, but it COULD make getting your foot in the door more difficult as obviously some people do not take other turntables seriously.
Good luck!!!

Techs are dead easy to service, and there are lots of people with years of experience doing upgrades and repairs. There are also plenty of old Techs around that can be pilfered for parts.

This is in the metro Detroit area, so i cant officially speak for the rest of the world as far as location goes. But this is typically what ive seen in other areas as well. Once again, we are talking about a new person whose never dj'd or owned any equipment before.


1 MK5 $600 detroit.craigslist.org
2 MK5s no cases $1000 detroit.craigslist.org
1 MK2 with case $400 detroit.craigslist.org
2 1200 M5gs $1450 with cases detroit.craigslist.org



2 used Vestax PDX's with ortofon carts & cases $650
detroit.craigslist.org
2 ttx's no cases $300 for the pair: detroit.craigslist.org
2 ttx's $425 detroit.craigslist.org
1 stanton st150 $550 flint.craigslist.org




yeah, Pdiddy... this guy looks poor to me...and what an embarrasment to the DJ community--->Watchwww.youtube.com




ok, you got me there... the number may not be 90%... but fact is, way more ppl see someone ripping it up on the 1's & 2's and say "cool, i wanna try to be a DJ". Then they go out, buy a basic setup and end up not sticking with it. So if the majority of ppl who try it, dont end up sticking with the art, why suggest spending more money on something that is outdated and has less feature, when you can get a product that is FOR A FACT, better and cheaper and has a solid track record for being a proffessional product.


once agan Niro, looks and feel are all opinion... longevity, yes it's a fact that techs last a long time, but only trump the argument because the other tt's didnt start being produced untill the 30 yrs later. So technics is always gonna win the battle there. but even if the other tt's last 30 years.... you'll say "well techs last 60 yrs and the others dont"...smdh

are you fuckin serious??? that extended pitch has allowed me to do on the fly transitions with out having to go into internal mode and manually shift the pitch in SL. So please explain to me reggae delgado, why a live transition into a higher/lower BPM simply should not be done.

The true answer to this question is get whatever you like, out of the shortlist everyone here has given you. They will all spin wax, and some of them will have a higher resale value, some will have extra pitch range, and some look nicer, so it's up to you to choose. Technics are the most recognizable, and they're the standard everywhere. I've used vestax pdx2000 and I didn't like them because the torque was too high for me, but to each their own. I'm happy with my 1210mk2s

tell that to a gay person...lol

To the original poster of this thread:

here are some professional reviews done on the turntables that are being discussed: Very in depth and cover just about everything from technical specs to performance & general price ranges.

In order of overall rating (best to worst)

Stanton Str8-150 Review: www.djworx.com

Numark TTX Review: www.djworx.com

Vestax PDX 3000 Review: www.djworx.com

Techs 1200 Review: www.djworx.com

but this quote from the website pretty much sums it up...lol

"So, how in the hell does one rate a 1200? I guess that the first question would be are the changes really that big a deal? The answer here would be yes, as while they may seem minor at first, all of them are right off the top of the most requested changes to a 1200. And in the case of the tonearm, there is actually a real example of Panasonic throwing a bone to the scratch artists out there, something that I never thought I would say. On the other hand though, the price of the mk5g compared to the standard 1200 is quite ridiculous (between $599 and $700 depending on the store), and overall the changes are not worth the price hike. If the mk5g were being sold at $499 I would have no problem with calling this a solid buy, but at the current price I have to say that this is more of a purchase for the DJ that has it all than anything else. As well, while the changes are all welcome, they are not large enough to trade in your old 1200's for, unlike trading for pdx2000's/ttx1's which both could be considered a real upgrade. So all in all I give these a thumbs up, albeit a small one."

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*goes to a gay male couple trying to find a surragate mother*
Ceddy: Y'all want a baby?
Gay couple: Yes, we've been trying to get a baby for the past 10 years.
Ceddy: Put your dick in some pussy and nut in it. 10 months later you got that baby
Gay couple: That's the best idea I've ever heard.
Ceddy: Now download all of my mix tapes and spread them across the internet under a straight male alias.
Gay couple: We will do so Ced. You are the best and may many sexy clean women taste your sausage in the day time.
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Didn't want to make another thread but, i came across two deals, and can't decide which to go with, my s4 plus 1200 for a pair of M5G's or 900 for a pair of 1200 M3D's. What to do serato brothers ?

I would say keep the S4 as a backup or bedroom rig.
The M3Ds are great decks. The M5Gs may have higher resale in the end, however.

Thats what i was thinking at first, but traktor didn't get my attention like i thought it would after using the s4 for a bit, i got to used to serato's interface and im banking on ssl & dj merging and i fell in love with the wide waveform view thats in dj which is exactly what i what. And also i thought since i would spend 900 i could save up the extra 300 and go with the M5Gs

Stop trying to post relevant shit in my troll party.

my bad bruh... didnt mean to steal you thunder... carry on!!! lol

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You make no sense....

U fuckin tool...dont take 1 little statement and chop up my point to make it look like somethin different...

If u cant understand and comprehend the fact that when someone coins the phrase "taking a beating" it means being able to withstand harsher treament than what the product was originally designed for...then ur a moron.

So lemme break it down for u. Johnny boy...


The point being made was that you cant hold the other tts on the same time standard as techs Lasting 30 yrs when theyve only been around for ten yrs.

30 yrs from now ppl r gonna say "well techs last 70 yrs and the others only las 30"

So thats what i meant when i said longevity has nothing to do with taking a beating.

Being dropped, sitting in a car 100+ degrees, spilling drinks on them.... thats what taking a beating means... and the other tts have stood up to techs when it comes to those key features

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Sounds irresponsible to me.
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oh ok... so i take it youve never dropped anything or spilled anything in your life. then i guess that statement wouldnt apply to you ced, since your so responsible.

decks and records sitting in the car is irresponsible though... i give you that one.

plenty of times ive gotten home at 6am from a gig and left my shit in the car all day long on sunday, bcuz i was too irresponsible and lazy to unpack as soon as i got to the crib.

but, my ttx's are still runnin strong.

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my not to kinx myself buy I haven't dropped or spilled anything on my dj set up and equipment. That's just me though. I have spilled stuff but not around electronics. But you are entitled to your opinion about 1200s. I can't force you to be right.
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Most will say Tech cause it is the industry standard but truth be told they're not any better than the Stanton Str8-150 and the Stanton is not any better than the Technics, it's going to boil down to what you feel is worth your money and int he end your skill will grow and regardless of what turntable you use it will carry over because skill is skill and you don't get any better on a certain turntable than you would with another. You just need something built to last because turntabilism is heavy on the table.

Now the Technics are proven to last (with the exception of the ground and the light) but what's worth your money? Technics you can only find used and you will not get a warranrty, Stanton however you will get a warranty and they're self grounded and the light is easier and cheaper to replace so in the long run you would save money and get a pair of brand new turntables with a warranty and cheaper repair when the warranty does in fact run out all for the price of used Technics and quite possibly cheaper than used Technics.

That's just my opinion, take it for what it's worth to you.
By the way, Awesome name it happens to be my daughters name (Athena).

oh no doubt,
there can never be right or wrong when it comes to personal likes and preferences.

but when it boils down to the facts... the facts are:

when compared to professional tt's in the same class as techs

techs have the least amount of features
techs have weakest motors
techs require more maintenance
techs are more expensive (in general, not ignoring the possibllity finding a great deal every now and then) (but for the most part, you will spend more on used techs, than you will on brand new tt's from a different company)

i guess i can sum it up like this:

if someone asks about purchasing a car to drive back and forth to work. and im talking the average joe, who knows nothing about cars. all they want to do is get in it and drive.

they have the option of buying:

a: discontinued 1980 ford f150 that costs $30,000

or

b: brand new toyota tundra for 26,000


the f150 is just the basic model

the tundra has gps, bluetooth, heated seats, leather, pretty much fully loaded. and under full factory warranty.

both trucks are rugged and built to last

and of course the f150 has been around longer

which one makes more sense to buy?

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except the professionals who use them on a gigly basis. The djs I respect the most, Jazzy Jeff, Scratch, Q-Bert, D-Styles, Rev, Rectangle, Roc Raida (R.I.P.), DJ Screw (R.I.P.), DJ Bee, Craze all use Techs. They may have used others at some time, but they are using Techs the majority of the time.
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But do you really use them all? I use my pitch but I hardly ever need to go the the highest pitch or the slowest. I have tricks to change BPMs if they are that far apart. Other than that, pfftt.
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I don't see how that can be measured in dj life. When I back spin or scratch, the power is where I need it to be. My slip mats are on point so the motor torque is unnoticed which is a good thing.
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What maintenance are we talking about? Because I have not done anything to mine since I got them in 09 after rescuing from a closing club. I have not had to do anything to them after they were serviced when I first got them and they were in shit shape. The club owner said they weren't used in over 7 years and the dude at TurntableTech.com said these were original 1200s. So tell me, what maintenance do 1200s require?
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A lot of popular things are more expensive. That is capitalism. If it makes a name for itself, the price will always be higher. Look at Kellog's Pop Tarts. You used to get them for $1.39, and got more cream filling. Now they are $3.99 and get more pastry bread then cream filling. Why? Because it is most recognized. More people love them. The Pagani is faster and more exotic than Lamborghini. But guess what?
DJRemixEnt : What?
More people will buy the Lamborghini because they have heard or known more about it. Just face it. With your face.
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based on autotrader.com, that is not realistic.
www.autotrader.com
But I see what you did there.
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In terms of longevity and trust, Scratch Academy uses nothing but Stanton & that's got to carry some weight in terms of trust.

I own both Techs and Stanton, Techs because I owned them prior to Stanton releasing the STR-150 and STR8-150 but I spin exclusively on my Stanton just because I came to like the table more & I feel it has so much more to offer. I haven't been able to part with my Technics due to nostalgia but again this is preference and has nothing to do with anything other than opinion, I can do everything I can on my Technics that I do on my Stanton that I would need to do in a club with the exception I can use my Stanton in digital not just in phono.

I meant ST-150 not STR-150

once again, personal preference...

im talking strictly facts:

stanton: 4.5 Kgf-cm
numark: 3.7kg of torque
vestax: 4.7kg

techs: 1.5 kgf·cm





once again... personal preference. whether you choose to use all of the features, is up to you ced. but in case you do want to try new things and use those features, they are available on the other decks and not the techs.

i mean you can your little tricks if you want to (spool of thread, duct tape, pencil, flip your cart upside down: youtu.be

or you can just press a button: youtu.be

but once again, that is personal preference, and there is no wrong or right there.

but the fact still remains:

techs have the least amount of features of the compared tt's.




examples:

1. accidentaly closing rca cable in flight case... if you fuck up your rca cable, just remove and replace with new ones on the spot.

techs you have to solder new rca's.

2. techs have ground wires, when they go bad, you have to replace, which requires soldering

the other tt's come internally grounded from the factory, so no need to even fuck with ground cables.

(of course you can do the internal ground mod on techs.... but once again thats more maintenance)






once again ced, if your willing to pay more for popularity, that is totally up to you...personal preference


the fact is:

youre paying more money for a used product, when you can buy a tt in the same class as techs, that have more feaures, less maintenance, brand spanking new, with a full warranty... all for less money. and they hold up just as well as techs. and are used by professionals. (generally speaking, like i said earlier theres always a chance you can find a killer deal on some used techs)



there are many professionals who use the Str8's TTx's and the PDX's... so whats your point???

who you respect, is your personal opinion... and im sure you respect these guys based on their skill, not what product they use?

if Jazzy Jeff was rocking a gig on a pair of Str8's, would you not respect him as much?

wow ced,

you totally missed the point of the analogy....

if a person wants to sell his 1980 f150 for $30,000...what's stopping him? he can list the price for what ever he wants... the point is, what average joe schmoe is gonna buy a used 30 yr old truck for more than the retail price. when they can get a brand new truck with more features for less money; still under full waranty, and requires less maintenance.

now if you have someone that is a car lover and they just love the older f150 series, then yeah they are probly gonna be willing to pay more for a used f150 because there is a special interest there.

but once again, like the original poster of this thread, we are talking about the average joe schmoe who doesnt have the knowledge or special interest of a veteran dj.




there ya go...

I believe there are some other threads about this with Jeff & traktor....

"techs require more maintenance"

This couldn't be more untrue. There is really no real maintenance a turntable needs if you treat it right. My oldest set of technics only needed their RCA's changed once. I never had to replace or fuck with a ground wire.

Shit, I never even had to recalibrate them in all those years and they were the MKII's. Now that I own M5Gs I bet you I won't need to do anything to them for at least 20 years.

I personally don't care who uses what. You're still gonna suck on the baddest turntable on the planet.

ok... so you just removed and replaced your rca's on the spot? no soldering?

im not talking scheduled maintenance...

im talking unscheduled maintenance...

if your rca's are fucked up... which tt will require the most work/money(assuming you took it to a repair shop)

str8 150
ttx
pdx 2000/3000
tech 1200

So first of all, it's no big deal, none of us are named technics or stanton, none of us designed these things. No need for all the cursing & letting this get personal.

Secondly, yes I am serious. Are you telling someone who is BRAND NEW TO DJing that they should be pitching things up and down more than 8% or 10% while they mix?
My statement is that feature is not a NEED. Sure, it can be used to do a transition but as you mentioned absolute mode can as well. Either way, how many times do you want to hear or play a transition like that in the course of a night? I'm saying the larger pitch range is not a deal breaker either way, and definitely is not something I recommend a new dj do.
And in reality, I don't think pitching a song way up or down while playing sounds very good in general. If the plus of minus 16% a mk II is not enough, most of the time a different transition would be better!

str8 150 - switch out external rcas

ttx - switch out external rcas

pdx - switch out external rcas

tech 1200 - open turntable, remove old rcas and old solder... strip new rcas... solder to tt... put tt back together

damn, quote fail^^^^^^

excuse me for cursing, i didnt mean to hurt your feelings... im not taking it personal...just having a discussion... but again, i apologize if you got offended. ill try to watch my language when i respond to your posts...

back to the point...



no... that was not your statement... your statement was



now if you were trying to implement that extended pitch is not needed.... then yes, you are right... it is not needed, because like i said earlier, you can go into absolute mode and manually extend the pitch....

but i prefer to just slide my pitch down on the tt, instead of fuckin with my laptop. but to each his own... there is no right way or wrong way.



who recommendes a new dj to do this???
if the new dj decides to stick with it... then the option is built into the tt for them to use later on, once they decide to get into more advanced techniques. but i never recommended a new dj try this... nor did i say it was a deal breaker


some ppl love it, some ppl hate it, depends on the crowd. the ppl i play for love it.


thats your opinion... ive gotten alot of compliments on my live transitions. but i usually dont adjust the pitch during vocals, ill usually loop the intro or outro beats and adjust the pitch and then ride the next song of higher or lower bpm into the transition.

Watchwww.youtube.com

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lol. If you can't solder a simple set of cables you need to quit DJing. Is the design of the Stanton better because you can replace an RCA cable on the spot? Yes. Do I give a fuck? Nope. I've only had to do it once so really who gives a shit.

Anyway, back on track. Sometimes you have to choose what's the standard and what has a good resale value AND something that will sell. It's no secret that Technics owners will find a buyer whether it was in the past, now or the future.

~ I love my STR8-150's! :)

^^^^once again fact



^^^^^your opinion

and the other tt's won't?

so all those other tt's that arent 1200's are just sitting there on craigslist/ebay with nobody wanting to buy them???

all you 1200 fan boys need to just give it up... techs are on the bottom of the list now.

yeah, they had thier run for 30+ years...they are great tables... but technology has prevailed and there are professional turntables in the same league, that offer more features... cheaper price...less maintenance...brand new...under factory warranty and are just as reliable/durable for rugged use as a proffesional dj.

techs are known for lasting a long long time... and yes they do hold thier resale value...
but most of that has to do with the nostalgia...history...and culture of of the product, not entirely performace. hence the reason for the ridiculous price jump when they got discontinued.


like i said earlier, a die hard car lover is gonna be willing to pay $425,000+ for a rare old school muscle car... example---> old school camaro www.nydailynews.com ... because there is a special interest in the history, nostalgia, & culture factor of the vehicle...

but the average person who wants to try drag racing at their local 1/4 mile track a couple times a month as a hobby...etc, isnt really gonna give a fuck about the history,nostalgia & culture factor when it comes to buying a fast car just to take to the 1/4 mile track on the weekends... they just want a car thats fast and can get them decent times on the quarter mile.

if the Average Buyer on the market for a fast car has a choice between:

1969 Chevy Camaro ZL1 @ 140 Hp going for $425,000 www.nydailynews.com

or

2013 Chevy Corvette ZR1 @ 638 HP going for $112,000 www.chevrolet.com


what do you think they are gonna go for???



and thats my point, the poster of this thread sounds like they are a beginner and has never owned any dj equipment, and from the original topic is asking a question about the performance of a turntable for scratching, not about which tt has the best resale value, nostalgia, or history/culture.

all my responses are about facts of performance, which is what the original poster was inquiring about when it comes to a tt designed for scratching. (hell just having a straight arm alone is a huge plus if you wanna get a tt for scratching)


but if you guys wanna live in your little dream world that techs are gods gift to dj's... then go right ahead...lol:





^^^ yall crack me up

Have to agree with DJRemixEnt.. I got my first turntable experience on techs but then bought Stanton st-150's and have been training on them. I recently had a club gig with tech mk5 and I have to say that honestly they felt pretty bad compared to the Stantons... It's much easier to get a beatmatch perfect with the higher torque and dropping on beat one etc is just that much nicer on Stantons. I'm happy I didn't buy the techs myself.

You dj so bad...you can't dj with Techs.

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You sound more of a fan boy than anyone else in here and you're mad! Which proves it even more.

You're like the android guy that wants an iPhone really bad or like the iPhone guy who really wants a droid but both have the phone they don't want.

So yeah.....

:-)

It's not the turntable. It's you.

Have you ever seen the 45 King drop songs on beat with belt driven turntables? Oh and they're 45's too actually. If you haven't, you need to. There's your proof that it isn't the turntable. It's you.

Oh and these aren't any of the above turntables. They're the battery operated ones from Vestax. The ones you take to the record stores to listen to material before you buy.

This goes to show why Techs is highly recommended. If you can't DJ on Techs, you'll have trouble mixing on anything else to include other turntables with more tq (which really isn't an issue with techs cause last I checked, DJ's have been scratching and mixing on Techs for years), CDJ's, and now controllers.

Besides, who the hell needs auto BPM on a turntable anyways (Numark)? LOL!

If techs "suck", I guess all of these DJ's ranging from bedroom DJ's to big name DJ's who still use Techs religiously to this day have been doing it wrong this whole time by not going Numark? GTFO.

"but if you guys wanna live in your little dream world that techs are gods gift to dj's... then go right ahead...lol:"

He mad. lol

Btw, the easiest solution to not ever having to replace a cable on a turntable is a simple 99 cent fix using a female to female RCA adapter.

How is this logically relevent to anything ive stated in this thread...

Shitty argument from someone with shitty logic...who seems to have the comprehension skills of a SIXXX year old. (Pun intended)

Sixxx...stay on topic please

No...easiest solution is to just get a turn table where you dont even have to buy a f to f rca adapter.

Once again..thats something EXTRA u have to do to a tech..that doesnt have to be done with other tts...

The original poster asked for facts...and specifically asked for no opinions...

From original poster:

Ive stated nothing but facts this whole thread...and all u guys can come up with is ur opinions about the topic....please point out where i have said anything that is not a fact...

Thanxxx

Dont get me wrong...i love my ttxs...they have served me very well for 9yrs now... but i really want a pair of str8s.

I started off on techs back in 2001... and when i got my ttxs i never looked back... ttxs felt better to me...thats my opinion...some ppl dont like the higher torque...but thats their opinion.

To each his own.


but once again facts are...techs r on the bottom of the list feature,maintenance, and price wise


Im mad??? What evidence do u have to support this statement?

Yeah. You're so mad, here come the insults. :)

Insults.. and that's A FACT. :)

Stay mad fan boy. :)

Here's another fact for you. 21 years DJ'ing and I haven't seen more than ONE PERSON own a pair of Stanton st-150's. That's a FACT. And I've met hundreds of DJ's in my DJ "career".

Here's another fact for you. The only person I ever saw that owned a pair of Stanton's ST-150's (which he let me try btw and I can't say I didn't like them, to me most direct drive turntables will do the job actually) sold those and got himself a pair of Technics.

If that ain't a kick in the head, I don't know what is.

But hey, you're not mad. Keep the insults coming. :)

Back to the topic at hand:

"What do I look for when buying turntables for scratching?"

You want a direct drive turntable. That's pretty much it. In FACT, you can even learn to scratch with a belt driven turntable as long as you're light handed AND you have a good slip mat in place. That's why you can pull most dope scratches WITH THE TURNTABLE OFF. (of course, with a belt driven one, you couldn't do this)

Honestly, you need to worry more about what type of mixer you want than what type of turntable as a lot really rides on the crossfader - from the feel of it to the feel and shape of the fader cap.

first of all Sixxx... im not mad.

just because i threw a harmless insult at you is no evidence that i am actually mad. you are just assuming im mad.(for what reason, i dont know)

ive spent a good portion of my life in the Marine Corps, so i kinda forget that ppl in the civilian world are a little more sensitive when it comes to that kinda stuff... where i come from, if we are having a discussion or debate, we'll say someone is retarded or a dumbass... but no one ever gets mad, it's not taken personal

but if i offended you, i apologize and it wont do it again....

but in all honesty, im not mad (and im a very honest person, i would tell you if i was)

im actually finding it interesting, because it seems like alot of you guys cant seperate fact from opinion when someone asks for objective non bias feedback.

it seems like you guys are having a really hard time distinquishing fact from opinion.






how does this make the fact that techs have the least amount of features untrue?

how does this make the fact that techs requires the most maintenance untrue?

how does this make the fact that techs give you the least bang for your buck out of the compared tt's?




ok... so he sold his st-150's for techs... i sold my techs for ttx's... so what's your point?

that person you saw... had the personal opinion that he liked techs better, for whatever reason. but thats his opinion... no one is right or wrong here.

but once again facts are...techs r on the bottom of the list feature,maintenance, and price wise


and i m still waiting for you to :

im waiting Sixxx

Wait all you want. :-)

And I don't give a fuck if you were in the marines or not, if you start insulting someone it's usually cause you're mad. Don't hide it on the fact that you "think" civilians are sensitive. You have no idea or I was ever on the service or what. So STFU with your nonsense.

And

how does this make the fact that techs have the least amount of features untrue?

how does this make the fact that techs requires the most maintenance untrue?

how does this make the fact that techs give you the least bang for your buck out of the compared tt's?


Tell me where I said it did. Facts are facts whether they prove your point or not. My point is that if a turntable is superior, I'm surprised I haven't seen that many on the actual market atter so many years.

Now, if you want to throw insults go right ahead but I would prefer it you save it to when you're face to face with me. :-)

And I love how you didn't say anything about any of the above. You sound like a broken record.

PS. Those above are also facts. :-)

quit dancing around the subject sixxx...

not the case with me.... im a smart ass and will easily call someone a tool, or call them retarted, and theres honestly no hard feelings behind the statement....

like i said, thats exceptable in the evironment where i come from, but i do have to take into consideration it's not acceptable in every environment. so if i hurt your feelings, i sincerly apologize

true... you can also scratch on reel to real and cassete tape decks.... still what does your point have to do with:

...techs r on the bottom of the list feature,maintenance, and price wise

Features: With the features of the Numark such as auto BPM, +- 50% pitch, higher tq, etc, I would never personally use them. The tq of the techs are just fine for me and most turntable users out there.

Maintenance: I can service my own Techs with no problem. It's not that hard if you have basic "man" skills such as using a screw driver and a soldering iron.

Price: Market demands price. There's obviously more of a market for Tech's than there turntables as they are still used in venue's today by the biggest DJ's.

My track history with Numark isn't good. I will NEVER trust Numark with paying gigs nor will I spend another dime on them. If I had Numark tables, I would have tech's as back-up's which would make owning Numarks pointless for me.

Also, no DJ I know who started dj'd in the 80's and 90's that I know would ever use them.

Sure, the Numark's have more features, but the argument is like the Pioneer vs Rane mixers debate where the Pioneer's technically have more "features" vs Rane's track history, build quality, etc. I choose Rane even with "less features".

Then people talk about how Serato has "less features" than xxx. I choose Serato even with "less features".

Exactly.


PS. I also love how you ignored my face to face comments ;-) You can find out if I accepted your apology if we ever meet.

trust me... it wasnt ignored.

if we meet face to face, then we meet face to face... ill cross that bridge when i get there....

but until then, no use in talking about what im gonna do to somebody over the internet. talk is so cheap.

it takes me getting mad to get violent... and like i said before, im not mad... so def no need for me to get violent...lol especially on a serato forum....

plus, ive seen too much violence over in the desert, and growing up in detroit, seen too many ppl close to me lose their lives over dumb shit... the shit gets old quick

but for real sixxx, your like the dumb jock, who cant have a simple intellectual debate so you have to resort to violence to prove your point...

but hey to each his own

Sixxx, watch this video in full

Watchwww.youtube.com

remind you of someone???? lol

" but for real sixxx, your like the dumb jock, who cant have a simple intellectual debate so you have to resort to violence to prove your point..."

You mean I'm like the dumb jock who can't have a simple intellectual debate so I result to insults?

Yeah. That's right. :)

sixxx,

it's a harmless insult....just black and white words on the computer screen, theyre not gonna jump off the screen and hurt you buddy

Here are some more facts for you:

Technics IS the standard.

There are quite a few models of Technics turntables... so I bet you anything, my 1210's m5G's will be maintenance FREE for at least 15 years. That's right. At least, if not more.

Here's another fact.... a 99¢ adapter, makes your whole RCA maintenance a non-fact. That's right. I love how you ignored that fact too.

Here's YET another fact. One of my Technics 1200's that I sold was over 12 years old and I NEVER had to do any maintenance on it.

And, like it's been said before. You want features that don't matter. 50+-? Who gives a shit.
hell, I don't even use the 16+- on my M5G's. A good DJ usually doesn't even go + or - 4.

Straight arm? Man. If you knew anything about DJing, you'd realize a simple change on the cartridge angle fixes that little "problem". Straight or S tone arm, it doesn't matter.

So, you're starting making car comparisons cause you think that has anything to do with DJing? lmao!!!!!!!

if i call you a tool, or call you retarded because of retarded ass comment you made, does that mean you are a retard in general?

no it does not... i just feel you are being retarded on the subject on hand... but i have no evidence to suggest that you are really a retard and that everything else you do is retarded....

grow up bruh, its just a little internet converstion with a little wit and humor mixed in...

i honestly hope you are not taking this seriously...lol...smdh

DJRemixEnt,

It's harmless internet violence, just black and white words on the computer screen, theyre not gonna jump off the screen and hurt you buddy

Btw, NO ONE said anything about violence. I didn't even threaten you. All I said is that I would wait for you to insult me face to face. Period. :)

So, you're now going back on everything you said? Listen buddy. You don't have to try and pretend you're going to make things better with me with

a) an apology
b) your sorry reasons why you result to insults instead of facts or in this case, say anything I said that contradicts what I said which were also facts
c)your "knowledge" of DJing in general cause you ain't knowing shit

Fact. :)

This is like comparing a TTM-56 to a Numark DXM06.

The Numark is a hell of a lot cheaper and has more features than a TTM-56 but nobody that I know of would ever choose the Numark over a Rane.

ok, so if i did call you retarded to your face... what would happen??? i mean since your not insinuating violence...

Amen

We will cross that bridge when we get there. :)

Btw, what I'm insinuating is that you wouldn't call me retarded face to face.

If anything, you're the one that needs to grow up "brah".

It's easy to throw insults online cause you're so tough behind a keyboard.

and back to the topic at hand, (again, cause you're so wrapped up in your so called "facts" that you can't see anything else as being a fact as well)

"What do I look for when buying turntables for scratching??

Anything that's reliable and anything that you can get a good return on your investment if you ever decide to sell. A direct drive turntable.

Concentrate on the right needles as well as the right mixers/crossfaders that will get help you achieve what you're trying to achieve.

umm actually i would, if you were making a retarded statement.

just like if you were acting like an asshole, i clearly say "sixxx, your being an asshole"

being behind a keyboard or in someones face has nothing to do with stating the obvious...

the truth is the truth, i call a spade a spade

So I'm a 6 year old? Is that the truth?

Exactly. Flawed logic, isn't?

:)

but if you wanna sit here and play these little games like you werent insinuating violence with your "you wouldnt insult me to my face comment"... then go right ahead.

i you would kick my ass, then say you would kick my ass...lol... no need to be dishonest about the intentions of your comment

Do you want to call a space a spade? Accept the fact that you got mad and started throwing insults. Not just at me, but I believe to someone else in here too.

if you would kick my ass, that's fine... my feelings aint hurt

I would never say someone "I'm going to kick your ass"

I just do it. So, again, no violence here. But, if we ever meet, you can apologize to me then.

Until then, later precious.

honestly... i never got mad... and if i did let this forum get the best of me... i would just shut the computer off and walk away from it... but it's not that serious to me....

like i said im a very honest person, and i would tell you if i got mad... no need to lie about it

but like i explained to you before, where i come from, we have thick skin and insult each other all the time, debating about politics, sports, money... whatever it is... nobody ever takes it personal and gets mad.... but i realize everyone doesnt come from the same mold, so i just gotta watch my insults... and realize some people have thinner skin and take it to heart

First off, you represent one of those "Keyboard E-Thugs" who talk smack from anonymous IP addresses across this dear ol' land of ours....

But wouldn't dare say the *ish in person....

SECONDLY, what makes this SOO BAD, is that you

STILL
MAKE
NO
F*CKIN'
SENSE....

12's have been tried and true for YEARS...

You're trying to lump turntables that you MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO GET PARTS FOR in the coming years against something that EVERONE has...

Do they even HAVE a service manual available for them joints?

Do you even KNOW OF a service center for them?

Hell naw...

But like I said, you can save your answers for if we meet....

And oh, if you're the type of "DJ" who keeps Turntables IN 100 degree heat, and are constantly spilling drinks on them....

Then maybe you need to get OUT of the game, or better yet, don't get cases, you need some damn bubble wrap, you clumsy motherf*cker....

EXACTLY....

See? Goes to show what you know about us veterans of the forum. lmao!!!!!

I just POINTED OUT THE FACT that you started insulting people instead of keeping to the facts - which, is what people do when they get upset.

I never said I was mad, or hurt, or whatever by your comment. Go back to the thousands of posts I have in here and you'll realize you've been made a fool by your own words.

Here's a couple of tips for you. If you want to be an internet tough guy, don't apologize. Ever.
If you want to be an internet tough guy that claims to be just as tough in person, you don't need to say it. Just do it.

ok then, so why would you prefer me to save it to when we are face to face? if your not insinuating violence... cuz to me, that seems like a subtle threat... but if its not a subtle threat then explain yourself... and if it is a threat... then just be a man a say it....

like i said, my feelings aint hurt...id have more respect for you if you just came out and said,

"id rather you insult me to my face becuz then id beat your ass"

lmao

Not anything that I CARE about....

Hell, you don't need to know how to mix, you need to learn the f*cking basics of how to carry crates and sh*t....

I bet you can't even mount a cartridge on a headshell, can you?

"but if its not a subtle threat then explain yourself... "

I don't need to explain myself to you or anyone.


You mad.

" like i said, my feelings aint hurt...id have more respect for you if you just came out and said,"

this guy... lmao!!!

NO ONE in here needs or wants your respect. It means shit to us.

Want to be be respected? Show your skills. That's what matters in a DJ forum.

Oh, here YOU go....backtracking and *ish...

WELL YOU NEED damn turntables made out of Kryptonite and *ish, cuz you OBVIOUSLY aren't potty trained on the BASIC RULES OF DJ'ing....

Including NOT being a LAZY F*ck and not unpacking...

But wait, if someone came and jacked yo' sh*t, you'd be the FIRST person on here posting a thread of how somebody stole your stuff....

Damn son, your failure rate is at an all time high right now.....

hahahaha

Damn Johnny. You need to slow down... I was typing along the same lines. lmao!!!!!!

so then you fit the description of an ethugg, johnnyboy

ok so you called me a clumsy motherfucker... am i all butthurt about it? no...(actually i am pretty clumsy at times)

cant get mad at the truth

Yeah, you're the type who would absolutely forfeit a show if you couldn't get a premounted headshell...

You are EXACTLY what the problem is with the DJ culture today...

You want everything HAND FED to you on the latest "technology" available.....

But wouldn't know what to do if a fuse blew, and you had a roll of aluminum foil next to you.

Who is butthurt?

I'm just reviewing your Dear Abby whiny postings.....

I'm sure you've said some even dumber *ish in this post that I haven't even GOTTEN to yet, but I see Sixxx has already pulled your card.....

See folks...

THIS is what happens when you catch a FAKE AZZ DJ tryin' to drop "Knowledge" on an Internet Message Board....

I have a gig to do know, so I"ll continue roasting you in the morning...

Carry on Sixxx, I see u.

Oh, you know where I be...

I be In Da Club....

Holla.

^^^^THIS is the muhfugging truth^^^^

This dude shuckin' and jivin' and got the nerve to have Fred Sanford as his AV...

You NEED to have Aunt Esther as your Avatar, cuz your actions are full of estrogen.

i did 6 years in the Marine Corps & 2 yrs in the Army, picked up E-5 in 2yrs 11months, have numerous awards and deployments under my belt, im a certified aviation ejection seat, heating and cooling, aviators breathing oxygen, cabin pressurization mechanic...ive been doing that job for six year and am currently in school to getting my A&P license so i can be certified in aircraft engines and sheetmetal, with a job at Boeing waiting for me when i get through with school....

so im pretty sure i can handle a roll of aluminum foil and a fuse.

both of those are your quotes... your calling someone an ethug for talking shit... while your doing the same thing... oh the irony

Well no wonder.

lol...where's your evidence?

Sixxx and johnny boy... yall crack me up...lol

I like to misquote. What can I say.

But hey, since this thread was about scratching. Show us your scratch skills with this superior turntable of yours. :)

Then you need to be an auto mechanic, not a DJ.....

Look, I knew you were falsified when you basically said you NEEDED a PITCH with a WIDE RANGE to switch BPM ranges....

You know what that is called by REAL DJ's?

Smoke and mirrors....

What kind of transition REQUIRED you to have such a wide range of pitch adjustment?

Real DJ's can work with +/- 2 all day....

Others need bullet proof platters and premounted headshells....

Guess which category you fill?

But I said "Holla".....

That's the difference...

"Cats be makin' *ish up"

i never basically said i needed a wide range pitch.... i said the wide range pitch on the turntable kept me from having to fuck with my laptop by going into absolute mode and manually adjusting the pitch...

and not once did i say any of those extra features were needed...

so if your gonna quote me.... at least do it right....

Here are a couple more facts he forgot to mention:


Now read this other little nugget of a fact:



And also, I would like to SEE how YOU use the pitch range figures on your turntable. I have a feeling you don't. Useless "features" in my opinion.

im an aviation mech, not an auto mech....

and what does having a day job have to do with being a reason someone shouldnt dj...

see...this is the shitty logic, im talkin about

Indeed.

what did i make up??? everything ive said this whole time has been true

Proof you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

"by going into absolute mode and manually adjusting the pitch..."

lol - please post of video of you adjusting to + or - 25 or + or - 50. Or, even plus or minus 8. hahaha

:)

Here's another fact:



Read more: www.djworx.com


Ouch. There goes your theory of BETTER.

this thread was about what to look for when buying a tt for scratching... not about scratch ing skills....

am i the best turntabilist or scratcher??? hell no...
can i scratch? yes can i rock a crowd??? yes

am i a dj? yes

been djing since 2001... started on stanton str8-60's, then worked my way up to techs... then i had a hook up at Guitar Center and copped a pair of ttx's for a really good price... and i fell in love with them.... then i sold my techs.

ive got a garage full of vinyl that i recieved as a member of UDMA record pool in detroit, and from many purchases at Record Time in roseville mi... actually heres a buddy of mine that used to work at record time and hooked me up all the time...Watchwww.youtube.com




my bad, i meant internal mode... all this typing, im bout to make a typo here and there

but if you go to the the next paragraph ( 2 sentences down) youll see:

Personally I believe that this turntable is the best all round turntable you can get for mixing and scratching. I would say that the STR8-150 turntable is the best on the market and needs to be looked at strongly what ever your mixing style.

why didnt you post that part Sixxx????

and let's examine this little nugget here:



Transitions are clutches - and I'm talking about all these wack transitions that are being made left to right.

I will explain to you why a live transition into a higher/lower BPM simply shouldn't be done. Now, I'm talking about your crazy pitch changes SINCE YOU SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU USE THE CRAZY PITCH CHANGES ON THE TURNTABLE FOR)

Pay attention to the dance floor when you do a transition. Look at the fucked up "movements" of the people of the dance floor and the fucked up looks they give you as your transitioning from crazy low speed into crazy high speeds and vice versa. If anything, they're waiting until the new song comes to get back to dancing.

It's no wonder DJ's who are experienced and know what the fuck they're doing rather increase or decrease tempo in increments throughout a mix. Or, if a drastic change happens, it needs to happen quickly in the form of slamming a track or using word play to transition between very different tempo ranges.

that might be the case for you sixxx.... but no me

Personally <--- opinion

Ouch. That's gotta hurt. :)

Ha! I bet you don't even look at the dance floor. I bet you even have pre-made sets and shit. lmao!!!

Of course, that is not a fact. But, I bet it's true. lol

if your gonna post something.... post the entire thing... dont be a lil bitch about it and try to clip out the one point just so you can try and make yourself look better.

smdh

here's the entire paragraph


Overall this turntable is very well put together. Not all the parts are the best in the industry but put them together and you have a fantastic turntable, one worthy of it’s place in any set up. It is a shame that there are some little points that let this turntable down but they do not really affect the performance of this turntable, they just take the extra edge off the turntable a little bit.

Personally I believe that this turntable is the best all round turntable you can get for mixing and scratching. I would say that the STR8-150 turntable is the best on the market and needs to be looked at strongly what ever your mixing style. If you go for the Technics as it is the industry standard is another matter, but there is no doubt in my mind in saying Stanton offer the far superior turntable in both of basic features and the little extras found on a turntable like this. Price might be a small factor as this turntable costs more then a Technics Mk2 but the price difference can be justified. The Technics MK5 and 5G cost more then the STR8-150 and in my mind offer far less then the Stanton.



Read more: www.djworx.com

Btw, THAT is the case for thousands of DJ's that came before you. Do you really think DJing started in 2001? lmao

gotta put the kids to bed...have a good nite sixxx...ill catch ya tomorrow

Again, PERSONALLY.. it's opinion from that point on. Reading is essential.

Fact:



Opinion:

Reading is fundamental.



here's the entire paragraph - it's actually paragraphs plural.

Fact:



Opinion - I took the liberty of underlining the words that make it an opinion with the exception of the fact that Technics is STILL the industry standard.




and I don't need to do anything as far as this "just so you can try and make yourself look better". I'm already BETTER THAN YOU. And that's YET ANOTHER FACT

You do that. I'm heading to the club tonight. That's what DJ's do. Oh yeah, that's right... you tested the whole transition thing playing for your kids. That's nice.

:P

just getting out of the military, i actually had a fri night residency at the largest club in the Atlantic Beach area when i was living in North Carolina, i had residencies at bars also in NC. i had hooked up with a promoter from NOLA who was a Marine stationed where i lived and we got together to start booking hip hop artists to do concerts, we had gorilla zoe come out for our first act to kinda test the waters and it went great... we had a bunch of other artists lined up to come out...

but unfortunately my mother in law has stage 4 breast cancer and my wife and i made a decision to pack up everything and move back to michigan to be with her, before she passes. so, that meant leaving behind, everything i worked hard to start up. (family comes first)

so, yeah currently at this time, i am gigless, and have to start from scratch and build a name for myself again, on top of going to school full time and raising 2 kids.

but, i was djing 3 nights a weeks and also had money coming in from the mobile gig... doing weddings and all that mobile shit. i was very successful djing fulltime, owned my own equipment, speakers, trailer, projectors, flats screen tvs, etc... and that paid my bills.

cool story bro

but to be perfectly honest.... arguing with you and johnnyboy is like trying to teach a mentally retarded kid calculus....

it's pointless...lol

but if anyone of you two goons ever come to the metro detroit area.... hit me up. ill be more than happy to converse in person!!!

So no comment about fact vs opinion of the two paragraphs you posted and I reposted? Mmh....

I thought so.

there ya go

here it is again, in case you didnt catch it the second time

and again because it keeps getting ignored. :)

www.beatcolorado.com

sixxx how old r u man??? i didnt realize i had been arguin with an aarp member all this time...lol

seriously though...you look older... id expect a little more intellectual honesty from someone your age...

Like I said... you couldn't back it up... so you resorted to insults.

Now, you can't deny what's black and white... so you decided to ignore it.

:)

Back to insults. :)

Thanks for proving my point.

ok for real though... im done for tonight... lol

honestly... no hard feelings... this has been fun though. yall have a good night... im out

and thanks for goggling me. *adds another stalker to the list*

and yet, still no comments about the paragraphs.... facts and opinions.

Perhaps, you shouldn't worry about you teaching us calculus but you should worry about yourself knowing facts vs opinions when you read them on two simple paragraphs.

take serato off rel mod and use it abs and see if he achieves those scratches. techs are so damn good they made the company discontinue them. cant say that for no other TT on the market. and the guy that said his numark sat in storage for a long time doesnt mean they can handle the true club task.

once again... this^^^^ is the original posters statement

did the original poster ask for which is industry standard? no

did the original poster ask what extra features are absolutely needed? no

did the original poster ask what do poor people buy? no


c'mon fellas... i know ur smarter than this....

am i being punked??? lol

sixxx... i asked you several times to point out anything that i said in this thread that is untrue...and you still havent aswered to that...



and heres my response to the paragraphs....




first you have to determine what parts hes talking about... and from the latter statement he says they dont really affect the performance....

performance is what the original poster was asking about

sixxx, quit dancing around the question...

what have i said in this thread that is untrue

On the other hand though, the price of the mk5g compared to the standard 1200 is quite ridiculous (between $599 and $700 depending on the store), and overall the changes are not worth the price hike. If the mk5g were being sold at $499 I would have no problem with calling this a solid buy, but at the current price I have to say that this is more of a purchase for the DJ that has it all than anything else. As well, while the changes are all welcome, they are not large enough to trade in your old 1200's for, unlike trading for pdx2000's/ttx1's which both could be considered a real upgrade

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If one looks under the platter there is a small hole in the plastic under piece labeled “brake”.
In reality this is simply marking the potentiometer that has been on the 1200 since the mk2, and in my opinion shouldn't be labeled as a new feature as it can't really be adjusted live like on the pdx2000/ttx1.


opinion:shouldn't be labeled as a new feature

fact: it can't really be adjusted live like on the pdx2000/ttx1.

Read more: www.djworx.com

While not exactly the most exciting change, the addition of selectable +-8/16% pitch is incredibly welcome, and when you get right down to it is actually probably better in the long run than trying to compete with the huge pitch range of the Vestax pdx-2000 and the Numark ttx1. Having a 50% pitch range is all well and good on paper, but in the real world it has very little use mixing, and even doing tones it is sometimes hard to do accurate pitch changes live. By keeping it at a maximum range of 16% you are given just enough range to mix songs with high bpm differences while keeping the gimic factor low. As well, without good key correction built in, having 50% pitch is frankly pretty worthless for mixing.

Read more: www.djworx.com

opinion: it is actually probably better in the long run than trying to compete with the huge pitch range of the Vestax pdx-2000 and the Numark ttx1.


fact: but in the real world it has very little use mixing (just because it has little use...doesnt mean it has no use at all)

without good key correction built in, having 50% pitch is frankly pretty worthless for mixing.

this one is gonna depend on the dj and the type of crowd they are playing for... i personally keep my ttx set on 10%... but im one of those guys who doesnt like to fuck with my laptop. so i would prefer to just go to 20% or 50% on my tt and do my transition that way.

do i use it everytime i transiton into a higher or lower bpm...no... but if i decide to do a live transition...i dont have to fuck with my laptop by going into internal mode and doing it manually.

but there is no wrong way and there is no right of on the method you use of doing a live bpm transition.

im the type of guy who likes to work smarter, not harder.

but again thats my personal preference....

so if you like to pull pull the platter off your tech to adjust the start stop speed, then go right ahead...

if you wanna "mod" your tt with f to f rca adapters.... go right ahead

if you wanna "mod" your tt for an internal ground... go right ahead

if you wanna take your tt apart and solder your rcas & ground... go right ahead

these are things that dont have to be done on the other tt's because they come stock equipped with those feature.

but the fact still remains: you get more bang for your with the other tt's and they are just as reliable

i'm going to start mixing on sharp rp-21s just to piss all of you off. why's everyone so heated about this? They're all great turntables, people have love for their own turntables because they want to justify the money they spent on them. That's how everything works from cell phones to cars. The OP can't make a mistake between the shortlist of ttx str-8s and techs. So he can just make his choice, and everyone else can go back to enjoying their own turntables. I love techs, my friends all love their pdx 2000/3000s. We all get along and don't care if we're not using our own.

i couldnt agree with you more... but im not heated and i honestly dont think the other guys are either (at leas i hope not)

its really hard to gauge someones actual emotion based off of typing... shit may seem heated, in all reality, its not.

but yeah, ultimately its gonna be up to the OP, on whats best for them...

and all three are great tables and the OP cant go wrong with any of them...

so your absolutely right

Even if you go by your EXACT QUOTE, WHO DOES THAT?

Are you serious?

So you're basically saying, if Serato (or a turntable with a mile wide pitch control wasn't available, you wouldn't have been able to have changed BPM's....



More backtracking....

So why are you selling those "features" like you're a used Station TT's salesman?

Ok, let's break this down...

You're trying to basically push a turntable onto n00bs who REALLY shouldn't have them in the first place...

Why?

Because it's EXACTLY what's wrong with the DJ culture today....

Take the Autosync argument....

Do you want "NEW" DJ's to learn on equipment like THAT, or on something that will teach them the FUNDAMENTALS of DJ'ing?

For what it's worth...If you give a "New" DJ a 1200, they need to learn how to ride the pitch, (no key lock), they need to learn how to mount a headshell (hopefully), they learn how to adjust for different slipmats and situations, they learn how to do MANUAL tricks like hitting the off button for a slowdown, and a quick finger for "Manual" reverse.

And they would be learning on a piece of equipment that is MOST LIKELY in clubs than those Stanton jawns....so now they can go from place to place...

If they learn on STANTONS, who's to say they could spin on Technics? They'd be looking for digital pitches and reverse buttons...

But we KNOW the opposite is true that if they learn on TECHNICS, they can spin on ANY TT in the world...

Also, if something goes WRONG with a technics, you have cats at your disposal who can answer damn near ANY technics service question, down to the IC chip that may cause the Washing Machine effect...

Let something go wrong with a Stanton....who you gonna ask?

Being an "Ex Marine", you should know enough to build turntable with a matchbox and a few pieces of bark....

You should know that you need to know the "basics" of ANYTHING to be good at it....

Why are you failing miserably at this "advice" that you're giving?

Like I said, "Cats be makin' *ish up".

did i say that...no

i said it makes it easier.... like i said, im the type of person that likes to work smarter...not harder.


and personally i could give a fuck less about how a person learns something... that's not what the topic of this thread is about...




im not pushing anything on anyone... the OP asked for facts about the differences WITHOUT opinion, and thats just what i did...

but honestly, its gonna be up to her what she likes... im just giving her all the info and most unbiased reviews on all of the most commonly used products in the professional line of tts.

again johnnyboy... what does:





have to do with the original posters question of:

and the non-opiniionated differences are:

techs have the weakest motors, least amount of features, generally cost more for a used set when others come brand new with full waranty and full return periods...

so in general you get more bang for your buck, with the other tables

and last but not least...the other tts are just as reliable and durable

but it's up to her what she chooses is the best

if you think a dj should learn all that other stuff.. then thats fine... thats your opinion.... but all that other stuff has nothing to do with what to look for in a tt for scratching.

now if the original poster asked: "what can i do to be the best all around dj and learn the fundamenals of djing" then all that other shit would matter

im not giving advice, im simply putting all the info out there for the OP to be as informed as possible when she decides to make her decision...

not once did i say: you have to buy a certain tt... or "youd be be going wrong if you bought a pair of techs.

if she can snag a set of techs for a decent price...hell, go for it. but if you go on craigslist or ebay and are about to drop $1500 on a pair of m5g's... there are other professional tt's that'll give you more bang for your buck

all that ranting and raving... you still havnt shown where i made anything up

ive been spinning on ttxs for 9yrs now... and i used to tag team on my boys 1200's all the time in the club...

it only took me a few minutes to adjust to the weaker 1200 motor, but after that brief adjustment... it was on like donkey kong....


just because a person learned how to drive in a bmw 645 doesnt mean they cant drive a pinto... once they adjust the seat and get a feel for the gas pedal, they are still able to get from point a to b

First off, you realize you CAN'T give a "Non-Opinionated" Opinion....

As you are giving your OPINION of what turntable is better...

i said "non opinionated differences"... i never said "non opinionated opinion"...

^^^u just misquoted me to prove your point

how is this an opinion

with other tables you get:

stronger motor
full factory warrany
return period with the purchaser
brand new product with boxes manuals...etc
numerous features
you dont have to solder parts or take your tt apart just to adjust start stop
you have the option of repositioning the pitch slider for battle style set up
other tts offer straight arm set ups witch are made specifcally for scratching

so yes you do get more for your money

^^^100% fact

ive had my ttxs for 9 yrs... you mean to tell me thats not durable?



sorry i cant say that a turntable lasts 20+ years when its only been around for 10...lol

cmon johnny...lets get real

Remix has no clue how to separate opinion from facts on two simple paragraphs. Do you think he can separate the two from the shit that comes out of his mouth? Nope

did i trash techs? no

ive said numerous times techs are great tables... but there are newer tables that give you more for your money. and require less maintenance and are durable enough to be used in a professional dj environment.




seems like your the only one makin "ish up" johnny...

again... point out anything that i have said that is untrue...

you and your buddy sixxx have failed to do that on numerous occasions....

but ive pointed out how you have misquoted and made shit up just to prove your point...

There is only one thing in this thread that confuses me...

Why did nobody ask for a pic of Athena?

umm i did that already sixxx.. just look up and you'll see

lmao...i know right

y do you keep dancing around my question sixxxx


you still havnt pointed out anything i said is untrue

prolly scared her away with all this bickering back and forth...lol

we royally hijacked her thread...lol

No shit johnny...thats what the original poster asked for... a non opinionated feature comparison

Well in MY world....(and mostly everybody elses)....

With Technics, you get MORE than just a Turntable...

You get introduced to the Standard of which ALL OTHER DJ TURNTABLES ARE MODELED AFTER...

That's right, Stanton & co. couldn't even RELEASE their Turntables until the patent for the Technics motor expired 25 years after locking that down.

So ALL those other DJ turntables can and did BITE FROM Technics to build their product.

Why not learn on the original, that is STILL the Standard?

I could see if it WASN'T still the standard, but it IS....

But to be more specific -

stronger motor - Is that really necessary? Or something that you get used to that probably ISN'T in the bulk of the clubs that they're going to frequent.
full factory warrany - Available from Technics if new
return period with the purchaser - Available from Technics if new
brand new product with boxes manuals...etc Available from Technics if new
numerous features Most of which were initially modeled after Technics if new
you dont have to solder parts or take your tt apart just to adjust start stop Stop being clumsy, and knowing how to adjust your brake is a good thing
you have the option of repositioning the pitch slider for battle style set up Stop being clumsy
other tts offer straight arm set ups witch are made specifcally for scratching Some of the best scratcher I've EVER seen still rock 1200's, not a Turntable to HELP them

You can't even advise them of what to do if a different products "Pop Up" light burned out.

It's the SAME THING, you're giving an OPINION.....

Didn't you say they SAT forever? I'd hope if something SAT for a long time, they'd not fall apart.



I didn't SAY for you to SAY that it has lasted 20+ years, BUT you're saying they're JUST AS durable as 1200's, and I'm saying you CAN'T say that BECAUSE they haven't proven the test of time...

And may NEVER....

But in the same breath that you can say that the Technics motor may be "Weaker", I can say, that Stanton BUILT their motor by copying off of Technics design...

No props for plagiarism.

Nobody is bickering, but trying to get her the BEST information possible, so she wouldn't be stuck with a Staton that MAY NOT be supported in the future.....

Ok, let's start off with -



So in a world where a DJ is taking CARE of their equipment, how is this true?

And secondly, let's go with this....WTF

The reason WHY Technics is the #1 Turntable in the world is BECAUSE it can take a BEATING and has unsurpassed LONGEVITY....

You CAN'T be serious.

lmao @ his tables being unused and saying they've taken a beating. I missed that part.


Hilarious!!!!!!!!

I hope something that sits unused requires less maintenance. lmao!!!!!!!!!!

what does this have to do with the OPs question? did she ask what tt will introduce here to the Ultimate DJ standard? no


what does this have to do with the OPs question? did she ask which company had the original patent on the motor? no


did she ask what's the best to learn on? no
she asked what to look for when buying a tt when scratching.


did she ask for what was necessary? no

she asked for non opinionated facts---techs have the weakest motor when compared to the other tts




what does being clumsy have to do with a rca shorting out and it needs to be replaced?

techs is the only tt that has to be opened up and parts have to be soldered (more work)... all the other tts are just simply remove and replace rcas on the spot. which is ideal for a club environment... no dj is gonna take apart his tt in the booth, get out the soldering iron, strip wires resolder re-assymble the tt... c'mon man get real

did the original poster ask which turntable was modeled after techs??? no

non opinionated difference is: techs have the weakest motors and less features and require more maintenance

^^^ how is this giving an opinon??? these are 100% fact and non opinionated

and if you read my post... i explained the context of this statement... so once again... dont just slice one little piece of my entire quote and use it to dishonestly make your point...

quote the entire context of the post...

honestly, your the only one talking about "who copied who"... what does this have to do with the FACT techs have the weakest motors???

you can say anything you want in the same breath.... is it really that hard for you to stay on topic?

who the fuck is talkin about who has the most props?

johnnyboy...

you sound like one of those old sour ass dj's whos alway bitching and complaining about how all these younger djs are fuckin up the game with this new technology... bitching about how all these younger dj's with contollers are fuckin up the game by undercutting and djing for $20 and a bar tab....


newsflash johnny...technology is prevailing...as technology gets better, people get lazier thats just the way the world works...get over it.

while your sittin there whining about how a person needs to know how to build a turntable out of matches and a few pieces of bark...

us other dj's are gonna continue embracing the new technology and having a blast...

this convo has been fun and interesting... but if you guys ever come to the Detroit area...please feel free to hit me... we can continue the discussion over a couple beers.... first rounds on me

So you're basically answering questions, without REALLY considering the BEST INTEREST of the person asking....




No, but for you to be PREACHING about your beloved Stantons/Numarks, let's keep it ONE HUNNERD, and give all the "Facts"....(as you claim).




So AGAIN, you're not concerned with what's in the BEST INTEREST of the OP?

Why WOULDN'T she want to KNOW the best to learn on? And then decide if she wants to spend the money later?

You sound like a Used Stanton/Numark sales person in training at GC.




So AGAIN, you don't have the BEST INTEREST of the OP in mind here.

How many people on HERE actually WANT OR NEED the extra torque anyway?

SMOKE AND MIRRORS....



If you LEARN to take care of your equipment, be it NEW or USED, you wouldn't be worried about "What happens IF/WHEN a repair is needed..."

On top of that, MOST DJ's will just flip to Instant Doubles if a TT goes out, and needs to be repaired "later"...."In a Club" environment....

You are just trying to PUSH a PRODUCT without even thinking about the BEST way for this DJ to enter the DJ realm....

I bet you have stock in some Nigerian accounts too....

The more you post, the more transparent you become....

But again, we're talking FACTS....

And that IS A FACT....

So for Techs having the "weakest motors", is it a FACT that they have held up THE BEST out of ALL turntables mentioned?



Sure, they have "Less" because everybody COPIED their blueprint and had to add MORE to TRY and compete....

THAT is a fact...

Now has it been proven that these COPYCATS have created a SUPERIOR PRODUCT?

No. and THAT'S a fact



Again, that's YOUR OPINION, and purely speculative based on how damn clumsy the DJ is.



I just showed you....

But here it is...

You're giving supposed "FACTS" that are OUT OF CONTEXT...

Yes, they have the WEAKEST MOTORS as far as TORQUE is concerned, but who has been complaining?

Does she even NEED more torque?

Or is that just a nice "Selling Point"?

I gave the FACTS as to WHY it's the "Weakest Motor"....duh, the product is older than YOU are....I would HOPE they came out with something "Stronger"....but is it necessarily better?

Do we actually NEED it?

You have NOT proven that...

Your whole premise is Smoke and Mirrors.

And again, this is your OPINION....

But it's NOT a FACT...

On top of that, you've gone back to Name Calling so you're again flustered....

Some Marine YOU turned out to be....

I would list this in the Backfired Threads Category, but the OP isn't the one who this thread backfired on....

smh....

This. What's why he bought that turntable. He thought it would make him a better DJ. lol

And that is a FACT....

Well I'll bet the original poster gave up on this thread long ago.

One last attempt to get this back on topic...
Get a pair of tables you can get a warranty for if you cannot test the waters, don't commit to anything you're not sure you'll stick to 100% but if you get a warranty you can at least get your cash back if it's not for you.

If you prefer Technics then great that's your opinion, if you prefer something else then great that's your opinion. Like I said prior to all this bickering, your skill will grow and show regardless of what table you get and no one is an overnight sensation so be sure this is something you can dedicate time to. It's also not rocket science just takes time to develop, how long it takes is up to you because what you put into it is what you get out of it.

Johnny, Sixx and Remix please take it to private messages as I don't think your personal opinions and fighting are helping if the original poster by some miracle didn't abandon all hope by now.

PorkyG, I bet you skipped what I wrote. I gave advice SEVERAL TIMES on what the OP could do. If you don't like what I read regarding Remix getting emotional and throwing insults, don't read it.

I love the fights.

All the turntables mentioned would be fine. I've tried them all, and I would rank them very similarly as above. 1200's first I guess, but that's my opinion. But, the most important point being made is, you may find you don't dig cutting. I'm always scratching, always practicing so naturally my boys or people in general over hear it and want to get into it. I can't tell you how many people I've known, over more than 20 years, that went out unsolicited and bought some shitty dj set in a box and couldn't cut after a week or 2 and had a pair of sweet dust collectors. Don't buy something that won't retain value.

Bottom line: Panasonic stopped making 1200's in 2010, and they won't ever make them again. 1200's are only getting more expensive. So, buy 1200's, if you don't like them or scratching, you will definitely be able to get your money back. I buy every 1200 I can find at a cheap price because of there value. The same can not be said for any other dj quality direct drive turntable. So if you don't like em or you wanna quit, sell them to me.

Hit me up when you start the best scratch mixer thread, I wanna read more silly dj fights.

You MUST not have read what we posted here....

But I don't care....

cuz you didn't care enough to read...

I find myself scanning sales to look for a steal just to turn a profit on them as well. Some people are overzealous with their pricing but just have to sift through the garbage sometimes to get to the stuff worth the time, recently found a pair and a TTM57 for a total of 1K (USD) because the guy was retiring.

Thats a damn good deal

Yeah it was & every once and awhile I can find those but that was the most recent and the best deal I've ever came across, found it on Craigslist so brought my sidepiece with me. LOL

Had no issues, everything worked and turned around and made a 2k profit on it.

I'll be honest though I expected to find them in a beat up condition or being sold by some dumb kid but he was a much older gentleman who was genuinely retired. Tossed in the coffin case as well. I'll never come across another deal like that but if that is a sign of the way this year is going to go for me I'm going to love 2013.

first of all your not a mod and this is a public forum... where anyone has the right to post on whatever thread they want...

and who the fuck is fighting... just cuz someone is having a debate on a forum... they are automatically fighting???

your just as bad as sixxx and johnny boy assuming that people are mad cus they call someone an idiot...

yall kill me with that shit....

as far as im concerned ... you can kick rocks porky

Watchwww.youtube.com

He mad. lol

Where did I claim to be a mod?



Walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck it's a duck.


Either this is irony by you assuming I said anyone was mad or you're wrong.





Cool video, grew up on those cartoons.

Look I can post a video too.
Watchwww.youtube.com

^^^ so i guess your officially fighting now, since your going back and forth with me

sixxx we all know what ur about... give it a rest old man before you strain a muscle...

Watchwww.youtube.com

No sir, that was the only reply you get on that particular subject & only out of a small degree of respect that I show every human regardless of media used to converse regardless of if the respect is shown back I take the higher road.

You made a point, I made mine that's how a debate works not 20-30 posts (that's called an argument/fighting). I've moved on from it, you can choose to harp on it if you wish but it'll be ignored.

i didnt say you assumed anyone was mad

johnny and sixxx assumed someone is mad... and i said you are just as bad as them for assuming that someone is fighting








nuff said

Hey Remix, check this out.

May be of interest to you.

serato.com

sixxx.... ive chewed you up and spit you out...

im done with you... youre dismissed

hit me up when you get here, we'll talk then

hahahahaha

And correction. YOU were properly dismissed.


lmao!!!!!!

Damn, y'all was just getting along in the post above....

What happened?

LMAO.....

*****Blank Stare****

No, I said you were FRUSTRATED.......

smh....

RIF

No you ASSumed we thought you were mad....

I THOUGHT and KNOW you're just frustrated....

And it's YOU'RE, NOT YOUR.....

****Now I'm frustrated that you can't use contractions properly*****

The bipolar moment made me laugh also. Had to comment on that one cause I was laughing after that second post.

Yup. That shit is funny. I think those are the effects of a grenade.

Nah, scratch that. I bet he was behind a desk all through his service and he believes in his mind he's Rambo. lmao!!!!!!

You know what?

I think you may have hit it on the head....

how much you willin to bet sixxx? ill put up $1000 right now.

^^^^^smh....^^^^^

This, ladies and gentlemen, is who the Armed Services have entrusted your life, liberty, and assault weapons to...

hell, ill bet you $1000, and ill even pay for your round trip ticket to detroit, so i can show you my medals, awards and service records in person.

so if your game...put your money where your mouth is (well, after you remove your dentures first)

you too johnny boy... ill pay for your ticket as well

hell, ill even upgrade you to first class

oh well excuse my typo...

just like the typical ethug...lol... cant prove a point so you gotta go for the punctuational errors...smdh

but yeah my offer stands



so when youre ready... hit me up and ill make the arrangements...

until then...

take care ladies

Classic Meltdown Status...

www.djjohnnym.com

^^^SMH^^^

The moment you start offering PERFECT STRANGERS, 1st Class Round Trip tickets to have them validate you as a human is when you should really click the "X"....

Go outside, walk the dog, get some p*ssy, SOMETHING, but...

PUT
THE
LOADED
MOUSE
DOWN....

It's so easy to catch a fish these days. lmao

I wonder what Rambo is gonna come up with next.

The suspense! lmao

No E-Thuggin' here, just good ol' Grammer lessons....

I actually got BORED with constantly proving my point, so since I had extra time on my hands....I figured I point that out to you....

DAMMIT MAN.....

You're almost there....

I'm sayin....

lmao!!!! He's off his meds. Now he's inviting me on that other thread about running for office.

Those desks jobs I tell ya. That's what happens a when you play too many war games on the PS3.

I just saw that....

He's cross posting his frustration....

serato.com

"He's cross posting his frustration..."

Indeed...

What will be next? Inviting random men... Don't ask don't tell.

Even offering to "Upgrade" them to 1st class....

Yeah, dude should view this as an intervention.....

I first I thought he was frustration mad. I now think he may be psycho mad.

He said pesos. Looks like he started the digging process. Told ya I had another stalker.

I mean he started the digging process when he posted a link to my pic wanting to know my age. Now he is digging deeper.

Funny thing is all he needs to know is right on this board.

lol

Wow wtf I step away for 40 minutes and this goes into plane tickets, PS3, medals & medication.

About 5 topics were covered in 40 minutes or less. lol

I heard he's got a Tony Little Award.

^^^ so you prefer i say it to your face....then i provide you with every opportunity to make it happen...offer to pay for your ticket out here, and buy you a couple beers and give you a tour of the motor city....

and you still back down....lol

ethugs... cant live with em.... cant live without 'em...lmao

dat ish crayyyyyy!!!!


but for real, ive wasted enough time on you goons... and have put enough wear and tear on my keyboard for the year.

take care

I'll take the free trip.


Here's my PayPal account.

6@djsixxx.info

I will need some spending money too. Thanks

Let's see if you put your money where your mouth "I mean fingers" are.

ay
at the end of the day, 1200s have been and still will be at the front of desired turntables despite what certain blogs, websites, and what some people display at venues.
yep

Remix, my Paypal is waiting. I hope you're a man of your word.

nm

ay
this thread has done numbers over the weekend. I need to turn on text to voice because it's too much too read.
yep

Man, this thread delivers....

If you only you saw the PM I got. lmao!!!!!!

This fool IS MAD!!!!!

smh.....

ay
oh he must have been gotten to. I must read all of the thread then.
yep

its not that serious! LOL

ay
what about the thread starter though?
yep

We're still awaiting a pic...

ay
www.flickr.com
yep

Apparently, it is. lol

I thought this thread was going to be yet another entry into the seemingly endless procession of generic turntable-comparing/contrasting snoozefests.

Boy was I wrong.

ay
nominated for thread of the year
yep

I got about halfway through this & decided my time would be better spent ...... DJing.

don't even mess around - pick up some old technics 1200's or 1210's. If you decide to give it all away you can often re-sale for more than you bought them for. you can't go wrong.
goodluck

Said that shit about 70 post ago.....lets start another fight.....GO!

ay
Shure M44-7 needles are better than any other needles period.
yep

Yes, please preach that, because us Ortofon PANK users want to keep it on the low...

it ain't for errybody....

How about I fly you to my city and you say that to my face!!!!

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ay
the Shure needles can take all kind of abuse. Such as dipped in acid, cat shit, alien abduction, terrorist attack, mounted on Technics 1200s and etc
yep

I'll give you my P.O. Box and you can send me the cash there.


Sorry I prefer the Ortofon Scratch (pinks), can't go wrong with the Shure but I love the pinks.

Fuck yo PANKS!!!! 44-7 to Def, BIOOOOOOOTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

OM PANKS to be EXACT!!!!

It ain't for errybody....

Only if you upgrade me to 1ST CLASS!!!!

I need a movie and a cute stewardess too.....

wow...you guys are still on this shit...lol

let it goooooooooooooo!!!!

I'm sayin' I don't want Aunt Esther to be my stewardess....

ive been off this thread 2 days... and im still on your guy's mind...lmao...shit is too funny

johnnyboy...

do me a favor....

1. wipe tears from eyes

2. take deep breath

3. remove sand from vagina

4. lather, rinse, repeat

feel free to let me know how it works out for ya...lol

Nah. You know what's funny though? Trying to fly people you don't know from a message board out to your city for drinks and what else? Oh yeah, a tour of the city.

Now THAT is funny.

and what's even funnier is, you guys are still talkin about me 2 days later...lol

i swear i wasnt even thinkin about yall these last two days...lol

sixxx, first of all, i didnt try to fly you down... if i did, i woulda put that money in ur paypal acct...

i really hope you aint takin this shit seriously...

but for real, as a friendly gesture, if you ever come to the city... hit me up... im actually a pretty cool guy... music-wise, detroit has alot of history, and culture.

Is that why you're still NOT replying? Oh wait. No. You ARE REPLYING. Oh yeah, you came to see what's up. Nah. I bet you are tracking this discussion. lmao!!!!

and if you havnt been to the Movement Festival in detroit, youre def missing out....movement.us

naw im not... i had seen it back on top of the DJ Discussion forum

Oh, but you did!!!!!

Here's the proof. Black and white. Oh, what. You forgot about this PM?

djsixxx.info

I'm a hip hop DJ. I ain't got no business in an electronic music festival.

Actually, I understand you filled this out...

www.djjohnnym.com

i guess you are taking this seriously... ok lemme stop

smh.....

I just find it funny that you backtrack in everything you post. That's it. First it was about some of the stuff you said about the topic. Then it was about you not inviting anyone to fly out.

The ONLY person who has taken anything seriously here it's you.

Cats be LYIN' on the internet.....

Let me remind you how EVERYTHING got started. You got MAD and started throwing insults AND I POINTED IT out. That's it.

Simple.

Next time. Don't get mad. It ain't that serious man.

Actually, you were hoping the ETHER cloud would clear after a few days, and you'd be able to show your face on the board again....

You know damn well you was lurkin.....

BTW, someone needs your assistance here -> serato.com

lol... you honestly thought i was gonna spend a $1000 plane ticket on u???

i just wanted to see if you were stupid enough to call & make a reservation

but seriously, i can do a lot better and take that $1000 to the strip club...

now, if you do wanna bet about the part where you claim i sat behind a desk during my military career... then its on & poppin...cuz im a bettin man...and i know for sure ill win that bet

where you come from, ppl might throw insults when theyre mad

but where i come from, ppl have thick skin and dont get butt hurt over a couple words... as the saying goes...if it dont apply, let it fly.

and it seems like the only person that got butthurt was you...cuz your the only one crying about someone callin you a retard, or whatever i called you (i honestly cant remember)...lol

i told you, ive seen too many ppl die over stupid shit... and too be honest, life is too short to be takin some goon that i dont even know in cyperspace seriously.

Certified FAIL #2.

A thousand bucks at a STRIP CLUB?

Now I DID tell you to go get some P*zzy, but DAMN, you payin' for azz these dayz LIKE THAT?

You can't make this *ish up....

Seriously, you can't....

well, when you get back from a deployment in iraq with $15,000 tax free cash in your pocket... that's usually what happens johhny boy

johnnyboy...

ill do my thing & keep payin for pussy...

you do your thing and keep payin for dick

1000.00 bucks on RANDOM azz?

Well, I believe it.....

Due to the fact that you'd fly RANDOM cats out to see you....

Seriously? A PM?

smh....

Should I post the rest of the PM about YOU SAYING YOU ARE FLYING OUT TO BAKERSFIELD?

Ouch!!!!

The lies just keep coming. Seriously man. Just admit you are a liar.

Ahhh, I get it, since you get the dick for FREE, you'd like to brag...

Gotcha.

Like I said... shall I post the rest of the PM?

Cats be lying....

Oh no....

no need to ill post it for you...

DJRemixEnt 1:14 PM - 14 January, 2013
gimme a date that your available to come to detroit and your flight info so i can book this ticket
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DJRemixEnt 1:15 PM - 14 January, 2013
and bring that $1000 with you too
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DJRemixEnt 1:18 PM - 14 January, 2013
as a matter of fact... make the reservation... then then gimme the confirmation # and ill pay for it over the phone, that way you dont have to gimme all your personal info...

www.united.com
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sixxx 1:22 PM - 14 January, 2013
Cash only

You have my Paypal address.
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sixxx 1:23 PM - 14 January, 2013
And I need spending money too. Thanks
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sixxx 1:25 PM - 14 January, 2013
Remember, first class. I will give you a total is what I need. Thanks.
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sixxx 1:30 PM - 14 January, 2013
Unless of course you're not a man of your word.
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DJRemixEnt 2:01 PM - 14 January, 2013
droppin straight cash into ur paypal...lol i think not

call the airline company... and make the reservation...

they'll hold the reservation for 48hrs...... gimme the conf# and ill call the airline, pay for it

u print out the ticket... hop on the plane... then the rest is history.
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sixxx 2:02 PM - 14 January, 2013
Like I thought. Pure words no action.

Want my Paypal address again?
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sixxx 2:03 PM - 14 January, 2013
Marines ain't shit especially those behind keyboards at desk jobs.
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DJRemixEnt 2:06 PM - 14 January, 2013
u think imma drop cash into ur paypal account so you can run off with my money like a lil pussy?

all you gotta do is call the airline and make the reservation, ill take it from there... bring your lil measly $1000 ... and its history from there
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sixxx 2:07 PM - 14 January, 2013
Yawn. Hit me up when the money has been sent.
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DJRemixEnt 2:07 PM - 14 January, 2013
c'mon sixxx.... all that huffin and puffin on the threads and you cant make a simple phone call to book the res, so i can pay for it? wow man...smdh

i guess you dont prefer me to say it to your face...lmao


later
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sixxx 2:08 PM - 14 January, 2013
Pussy marine.
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sixxx 2:09 PM - 14 January, 2013
Here's another idea. Fly to my city. Let me know even you're coming.
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DJRemixEnt 2:09 PM - 14 January, 2013
ok...where you at?
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sixxx 2:09 PM - 14 January, 2013
When you're coming.
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sixxx 2:13 PM - 14 January, 2013
Oh so now you're not looking me up? lol

California. Bakersfield to be exact.
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DJRemixEnt 2:15 PM - 14 January, 2013
bakersfield.... how far is that from chula vista??? i got peeps out that way
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DJRemixEnt 2:17 PM - 14 January, 2013
nevermind... i know exactly where its' at...

ill hit you up when im close....lol

and dont be hidin like a lil biotch when i get there
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sixxx 2:18 PM - 14 January, 2013
Of course you do. Can't handle your shit alone?

Want me to do your homework too? Need a ride too? lmao


You got the city. Let me know when you're gonna be here.


And just as a reminder.


You mad.
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DJRemixEnt 2:19 PM - 14 January, 2013
and make sure u got that $1000 too...lol
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DJRemixEnt 2:22 PM - 14 January, 2013
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Want me to do your homework too? Need a ride too?


well seeing your too pussy to make a plane res and come out here...

ive gotta do all the work and come out there...

but its cool...

youll here from me when im out there...no doubt about that
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sixxx 2:26 PM - 14 January, 2013
Don't say. Do. See you around.