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Hey Kittmaster,

Serato DJ will not be a 64bit application.

Sam.

It's a huge architectural change to the software and would require a lot more work. Basically we want to deliver Serato DJ and the new features and performance to everyone as quickly as we can. Unfortunately it would push this project out considerably to do this.

In 2013 thats a massive fail!! Ph deer that was ur best chance at doing it aswell NEW software. Oh well lol

Not only that, I can imagine how many and how much people would rage when they found out their 32-bit systems could not run Serato DJ. You think people are mad because a discontinued A&H controller won't be supported, imagine how they'll feel when half of their machines won't be supported.

Besides, 32-bit applications work just fine under 64-bit architecture. I have no problem with this so long as it works.

the only problem for windows users is that their machines have 6,8,12, GBs of ram and Itch only allows the resources of 4 GB ram?

Welcome to 32-bit addressing (though it could technically address more if PAE is enabled).

By the way, my crates are HUGE (Ridiculously so. I'm trying to reorganize and streamline this library). Crates, subcrates, subcrates in subcrates (in subcrates)... my library is insane, and I don't think I've ever topped 1.6GiB of memory usage.

I can add one crate and get out of memory on a pc but acratchlive i can have loads of crates and its fine. But anyway we should be moving 64bit like everyone else is. Win7 and osx is all 64bit so unless ppl got stone age laptops it be fine. Not long until more than 64bit will be out. Look at Ableton that is the reson it no longer works with ssl because they gone 64bit. Makes sence!!! Serato have taken a step back here. But am i too mad narr as long as my mac n serato dj work ill be fine. Just feel for the djs that wont be fine.

64 bit will be here for a while.lol.
going to the next level would be 128 bit, which the world isn't ready for nor is the hardware or software.lol

Thats more my point that 64bit is here now, to me it just would of made sence and been the perfect time togo 64bit, then we would have access to so much more ram. But i supose with the said work been done on large library memory leaks will tie us over for now.

wow this is a surprise to me... I thought one reason behind serato DJ was rebuilding the buggy core of itch, so building on a 64bit architecture would've made sense.
So serato DJ is basically just a pimped-up version of scratchlive to be able to use controllers?!

I don't I want Serato to ever take up more than even 2 GB of RAM!! But yes 64 bit would be nice in this day and age, but not a show stopper. Even at work we are still using 32 bit Office because it would simply break everything i we switched to 64 bit.

Suppose to read "I don't I want Serato take ever take up more than 2 GB of Ram"

How did i fail twice? "I don't think I ever want Serato to take up more than 2GB of Ram" .. Damn it's too early..

Ok thanks for the info

Well as long as YOU don't have any problems I guess everything is fine.

I challenge you to show a screen shot where you have 1.6GB of physical memory in use at any given time.

I've proven it can't be done without crashing.

Prove me wrong.

You don't think it, but do you have any logical proof that it makes a difference if the system is using more than 2GB in RAM to run the program. Do you even know the reasons why more memory and better memory management is even required?

People machines are crashing because its running into a limit when very large libraries are loaded......you can't see a reason to increase the memory management .......really?

There are a lot more people using 32 bit systems than there are people with your issue.

That's quite a good reason to not change to 64 bit. Unless...

I never said people weren't having problems, and most with 20K/30K songs are probably gonna be ok for a long long time.....but more and more are starting to have much larger libraries and it's running out of memory when it tries to load it all.

It's an architecture problem that ITCH has but SSL doesn't. Since I'm a customer just like all the rest, I'd like to be able to have it work as expect.....and even in the manual, it says the amount of files on your hard drive is the limit.....well clearly it isn't.....and since most of this seems to be a 32 bit issue as mentioned across multiple threads, something needs to be fixed. Hence why I asked if it will be x64 to help solve this issue.

What?

Lol no you have got your self confused, windows is 32 and 64bit just like mac but on mac you can choose the 32 or 64 on windows you can only install and use one. Unless you partition the drives.

But this have nothing what so ever todo with what we are saying. What we have said is the serato dj should have been pushed tobe a 64bit program as itch and ssl is a 32bit program on mac and windows. There isnt as bad memory leaks on mac because seratos code and programming is better for mac than itis windows.

Nar thats cool, also point out some people have the memory issue on macs aswell but not as much as with a pc.

Anyway we have our answer from serato and that is it will be a 32bit program i just hope they have managed to rework the memory issue enuff to please most users.

Its like ssl needs tobe 64bit to get the bridge working again.

Only people with ancient pc's are on 32bit why should we have to downgrade to support one piece of software when nearly everything offers 64bit now/

I hope you guys release a 64 bit version soon.

Mac sucks, they nearly died off if it wasn't for the ipod and iphone. I don't want to be stuck in a Mac jail.

Not true. Even newer PCs come with 32-bit OS' as the system requirements are slightly lower in certain environments (i.e.: The 2GB Samsung ATIV Tab that runs Windows 8 32-bit).


You don't need to use a 32-bit OS to run 32-bit software.

what's the percentage of new pc's running 32 bit compared to 64 bit?

Check out dell, hp, whatever

Only new pc's running limited ram run 32 bit

Just for anyone that hasn't noticed yet DJ 1.6 works with Win 8.1 x64, Great News :)

In the release notes there is some fixes for windows 8.1 so thats prob what he means.

Win 8.1 support should make it into 1.6.1

There a web page "Serato DJ Finally Plays Nice With Windows 8 | Digital DJ Tips"

But I have personally tried 1.6 with 8.1 x64 today and it seem to be working, I haven't tried all the features as I'm just a beginner but I haven't found a problem yet

One thing I forgot to mention is I'm running a Intel Cpu (i7)

I'm with DJSyndic8 on this one.

Till this page (serato.com) explicitly states support for Windows 8, Serato does not officially support it.

Exactly....Serato must announce it....