Never had a problem with these and have been using them for 5 years now…I'm calling this user error

you dj so bad... lol

ahhh haaa haaaa

Im not sayin the needles themsleves are bad because i've had it since january and the needle is still as good as it was when i bought it. It's just the connectors on the extra wires they include are too small to small to fit the cartridge and headshell so you're better off just tossing them and using the ones that come with the headshell instead.

I thought I had assembled my first M44-7 without any problems until I started Scratch Live and ran the scopes only to find out a channel was missing. I went through all the troubleshooting steps and ended up re-assembling the wires to the pins with needle-nose pliers to ensure that the connections were tight...left channel still missing. After several more attempts with a broken connector and no success, I figured that maybe my cartridge was bad. I took it back to Guitar Center where the sales rep put it on a turntable only to tell me that, guess what, a channel was missing. Then he proceeded to tell me that he didn't have a solution and, so sorry, but cartridges were non-returnable. So I calmly insisted on talking to a manager, who ended up being really cool about troubleshooting the problem by switching out the stylus with another brand new M44-7 stylus, which worked fine. He said I must have bought the one M44-7 out of a million that was defective and he let me switch them out even though he said he wasn't supposed to take back a used cart. But yeah, I was starting to become frustrated and feel incompetent about assembling this cartridge because it's a surgical procedure with the size of the materials and the limited space to make things fit. I bought the pre-mounted headshell the next time around. So just look at it as a learning experience, "You're not a real dj... unless you have successfully assembled a Shure M44-7 cartridge."

Haha thats right i guess. I've never had this much of a problem with assembling a cartridge before until i stumbled upon shure. I ended up taking the stylus out and putting it in one of my old ortophon concord style cartridges, and to my suprise, it worked. Also whats wierd with this shure cartridge is I had to put in the RCAs from my technics into my SL box backwards (White RCA in where the red supposed to go and vice versa) or else Scratch live will play the songs in reverse, but these technics had some work done on them and they put in the RCAs with the gold connecters in before i even bought them so its probably not the needle itself thats causing that issue.

I love these stylus & even travel into london town to buy them specifically.

Maybe u could a pre made one instead? slightly more expensive, but u wont have these issues.

B4 q-bert had his own needles to hawk these r what he reccomended

I bought mine pre-assembled. But i started having problems with one in serato (saying that it was imputing at a line level instead of phono) it was totally weird. I took off the wires, cleaned them, and it worked.... For a DAY! tried to take it appart again and broke one of the wires.

They're great needles aslong as you have a level table/deck. but when you don't, your totallly screwed.
The other thing I didn't like them, was that the carrying case that they came with was a total pain in the ass, I damaged 2 stylus's using them. Biggest scam ever, they want you to go out and spend 30 bucks on that blue case. Which I was too poor at the time to do.


I decided to buy some Ortofon pro S's and I havn't looked back. (feel free to call this user error with the m44-7s) but I PERSONALLY think that they track better.

definately fiddily to get the wires on but its do-able with needle nose pliers if you take your time

yes basic error it seems.

The wires have 2 different sizes of crimp connectors. 1 larger, 1 smaller. This is needed as the pins on cart and headshell are different sizes. Think the pins of cart are fatter.

What id do it take it apart again and squeeze the crimp connectors a LITTLE with small pliers to close the gap, then put them back on making sure they are a TIGHT fit on the pins.

I bought my Shure M44-7's assembled...

smh

If they are too tight (ive seen this on 2 carts i bought) just open the clip with a knife a bit before sliding them on, dont try to force it or it will break as some of you have seen.

Cant believe this needs explanation.

+1

this is the noobiest thread I've ever read in my whole life.

Couldn't have said it better...

Lmao....Ok I'm done never a problem w/m447

I actually had the same problem as you and just did the same thing. It pissed me off. I tried using pliers to make the little connectors a little bigger, but that didn't really work. I didn't want to break it, so I just used the ones that came with the head shell.

Noobs buy it pre-assembled.

or lazy rich people

Then y u commenting on it?

just to point out that you're a noob

died laughing. worth reading the thread.

no you didn't

@ Dj togtfo Quit trying to start fights on the internet kid.

Ill walk ALL THE WAY THE HELL across the room. and try it right now!

sorry bro. Theres just no way that could have worked!

Lol this thread is getting good

Not pickin fights. Sick of people posting nonsense just for the sake of post something. Just take the L. You made a noob statement, then lied about doin something.... just let the thread die.

Cobra Kai are such bullies!! :)

lol!

Had some problems with replacing my last cartridge, too, for the exact same reason Robert pointed out here. Why would it be noob to ask others if they have experienced similar? This forum is getting more and more destructive by the minute.

i once used a rusty nail as a stylus in an emergency situation, worked a treat, lol

I once rolled a piece of paper to replicate a funnel and put the tip on the record and I got sound coming out of the paper rocked my crowd wit that trick....lol

The noob move was ok the fact that he lied about inserting a 447 stylus into ortofon cart was beyond ridiculous.....jus saying that's why I'm so hard on new DJs because of stuff like this. Mistakes are one thing but making up nonsense is another

Best stylus for the money.

Make sure that the input slot on the tone arm is free of corrosion. This could be a problem will playing serato. Take your tables in to be serviced from time to time, if you can't do it yourself!!! My Two Cents

You know, I was gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and say he replaced the ENTIRE HEADSHELL with an Ortofon, and lo and behold it "worked"...

But I'm sayin....if it's what you SAY it is.....

There are no words to express....

I'm laughing like a retard at work reading this shit! Seriously! It doesn't get more basic than 4 color-coded wires. onfinite.com

PS. The connectors are the same size on both ends. The posts on the cartridge and the posts on the headshell are the same size. Also, your problem may have less to do with the friction-fit connections and more to do with the fact that you've been spitting on your old cartridges to get a good connection for years, and have therefore caused a shitload of corrosion inside your tonearm. www.deckdoctor.com.au

This thread is full of win.

full of win for a few of us, but a bunch of fail to the others.

What ^he said.

Co - To the Muh- Fuggin' Sign.

I dont see how me posting a thread because i need some advice qualifies me as a noob. Thats what this forum is for, correct? When one of us needs help with something, we should be more than willing to help out our fellow dj's with the problem and not type a bunch of BS and talking down to one another tryna start an internet fight because they simply have an issue or need help on something. I admit i was wrong about the ortophon headshell, it was an old numark i had which is the same color as the ortaophon, and it doesnt work perfectly, it just gets me by for now. But thanks to everyone who was supportive and willing to help me out on this issue.

AT rob W you gotta realize we on SSL forum try to hold our DJ culture to a high standard. Nothing wrong with wanting help I ask for it and get it and I also help out others. Certain things people ask for help for is seriously a face palm to me in most cases. BTW nice recovery with numark cart....lol. So when we bust your balls about stuff take it with a grain of salt and better yourself, do some research and figure somethings out on your own I promise you will learn a lot more versus jus asking when trying to solve simple problems.

haha well if you need spare wires, you can always pick them up here: www.turntablelab.com

how do you confuse an ortofon concorde with a numark headshell?

cut him some slack now bruh we all know he lied

only bc you asked so nicely

thos thread has more win than charlie sheen!

This thread delivered. Thank you everyone!

It's over folks nothing to see here keep it moving

on my m4-77s the post are different sized from headshell posts.

hence my post above saying you need to put the wires the correct way around to ensure good connection.

I think we are all getting leveled up in here.

Let's put it this way. One of the most BASIC things a DJ USED to know how to do was mount a cartridge on a headshell, and deal with connection leads and needle nose pliers.

It's like driving and not knowing how to change a tire....

Just sayin...

More like not being able to put the jack together.

That must have been difficult for you should of bought them pre mounted bro. They come like that too for very good reason! BOOM!

www.pssl.com

You know, I always thought there really wasn't a market for "Pre-Mounted" cartridges, because I'm thinking, "Man, a DJ HAS to know how to do that"....

But it looks like I'm proven wrong....

Who knew?

Alot of dj's. Pre mounted cartridges have been out for quite a few yrs. Best of all they are pre mounted on Technics Headshells they are great for dj's on the go. Just pop em on and ur ready to rock!

you misread it wavie-boy. Johnny M was referring to "Man, a DJ HAS to know how to do that"...

Absolutely....

I can understand wanting a Pre-Mounted cartridge for

1.) Having a quick solution in case of emergencies
and
2.) Having a clean headshell connection for a new cartridge...

But I NEVER would have thought it was so that n00bs could skip having to know
how to WIRE the cartridge correctly...

But, now that I think about it, it makes sense from a MONEY MAKING prospective to attract n00bs to have as little issues with a DJ setup...

***sigh***

What did I miss????? oh.....
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LMAO!!!!!!

Wavie boy? lol..sorry Wang Chung I was going to waste my time reading the thread.

wasn't*

wang chung?

Watchwww.youtube.com

No love in the serato forums i see haha and yeah, I know how to mount a cartridge to a head shell kid, and if you read up above, this is the first time i've ever had a problem with doing so because the connecters were the same size as the pins every other time. well anywho, the problem is solved, I have new wires that are the correct size and everything's working fine just fine, so yall can go home now.

(lol next time i have a problem, I'll just send in a help request instead.)

LOL.

This ain't no damn Helpdesk....

Why are DJ's so soft now a days??? Everything offends them and if it offends them why don't they fire words back?

I did fire words back :)

I dont like to argue on the internet (like some people)
Like they say, anyone can pretend to be tough behind a keyboard but I'm was more interested in hearing from the people who had the same problem as me with the shure's wires and what they did to fix it.
@ dj techniq, you should post a video on youtube doing a short routine with some taunts to gtfo and post the link in the forum. That'd be a good way to start off the battle. If I had a video camera, I'd do the same thing. I could put an audio clip up but then theyd just be like "haha who'd you steal that from blah bluh blah"

oh bro ive already challenged him to a battle i don't think he'll want to cause this isn't a game to me. I've never backed down from a battle and don't think i ever will unless it's some dmc champion lol..I'm all about learning new things and tightening my skill. This is not taking a shot at him but it's just a short video mix i did. DJ "Get The Fuck Out" come get some :)

Watchvimeo.com

But you know what these E-Talkers need to learn there lesson somehow. And that's calling them out for a battle. Best bet they won't act like they run the forum anymore. I'm ready to fuck shit up.

ohhhhhhhhh get emmmmmm

lol You sound like you got that awsome high you get after spinnin a bad ass set

*Pops the popcorn..... *

www.djjohnnym.com

Wait, who's battling again?

serious? If I get a chance to get to it this weekend, I'll record something I guess. what are the parameters of said battle? I dont VSL.

OH THIS IS AGAINST YOU?

Aww man...

Usually it's Who ever beatmatches quicker, scratches better (both strong and weak hands) shows off better tricks (beat juggles, looping) and has better tracks, but i think you two should discuss requirements

Wait, I thought YOU were battlin' him...

No it's me (Tecniq) vs. (DJ Get the fuck out)

sounds like you scared....Im instigating

onfinite.com

I don't care if i don't win a damn thing. I just want to prove to you im not a wavie-boy. The whole point here is don't open your mouth. I assure you my skills will get the best of you. If you want to run your mouth on a dj forum then maybe you should "get the fuck out"

Shots fired.

Crane stand anyone?

Good way to take the heat off of you by pushing for a battle on the thread. You should be the last one talking shit. You can't even wire ya shit up right.

The battle should be who can wire up their 4 post carts without breaking it.

onfinite.com

LOL!

Good way to take the heat off of you by pushing for a battle on the thread. You should be the last one talking shit. You can't even wire ya shit up right.

The battle should be who can wire up their 4 post carts without breaking it.

Looks like we got another internet trash talker, wow you all just keep comin out of the woodwork.
I can wire a cartridge to a headshell just fine. Didnt you read the post where I said i bought some wires with the correct size connectors and got it working just fine?

So you don't want to argue on the internet...but you just had to respond.

And please explain to me how what you said above was not trash talking?

Do us all a favor yo...stop acting like ya pussy hurts and you need a new Tampax. You said some dumb shit, got called out and laffed at. Move on. You are not the first and won't be the last. Like Remy said take it with a grain of salt when you get busted on in here.

Me scared? Neva that... THis just isn't high on my list of priorities at the moment. I'm just waiting till the weekend so I can either hop in to the studio to record it, or borrow an mbox so I can record it at home. I'm not much of a battler... not even sure what I'm going to come up with yet. So we'll see what happens... but scared? not even close.

lol..just to inform you I have some of the best scratch/battle records. I have so much confidence in every bone in my body that im going to win I'll even give u a head start so here's a few :)

-DJ Rectangle-
Frosted Breaks
Ultimate Battle Weapon Vol. 1
Ultimate Battle Weapon Vol. 2
The Scratch Masters Revenge
Ultimate Ultimate Battle Weapon Vol. 1
Ultimate Ultimate Battle Weapon Vol. 2

-Dj Babu-
Super Duper Duck Breaks


I await your shitty youtube clip :P

And your comment pissed me off. I am far from a wavie-boy u ass clown. I have also placed in every dj battle in my area. I have the pics to prove it. I'm ready to get my wax on and wax u off (no homo) Think before you speak next time, otherwise I wouldn't have to OWN you :p You don't know me so don't judge me.

And it's funny how you haven't said one disrespectful thing towards me yet. Well I'm not Mr. Nice Guy I know this is a forum but I take that comment seriously. Should of just kept your lip zipped

lol... keep talkin... Im not going to use a sing battle record, so your two cents arent needed. thnks.

*single

I find it funny tht you think Im scared.

Picture me as Mr. Miyagi. I'm your teacher and it's time u get judi chopped!
Watchwww.youtube.com

Bro I could prob use 1 turntable and internal mode and STILL beat u. I like the fact you aren't scared. But I'm going to make you wanna quit your dj career. If you even have one. I've seen your post and the negative comments you write so I'm calling you out. Good day to you sir. I can't wait to hear your pathetic excuse for a dj set :)

www.djjohnnym.com

Dj technic is going off you gotta back up it now homie but I've seen you kill it before. DJ Get the fuck out were you at I'm instigating I already know I would loose but I'm sure your gonna put up a fight right. Let's go Crane we need some prizes

Bwhahaha

***Casts my vote for quote of the YEAR***

I see lots of insecurity in this thread.



PS. that wasnt a battle vid you posted. If GTFO is gonna post a battle vid you should too.

HOW THE FUCK DID I MISS ALL THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

only on the serato forums can you start a thread and ask something like "Has anyone ever had a problem with an RCA connector breaking"...and 6 days 1500 posts later theres a situation in downtown LA with 2 dead bodies 12 hostages and a police standoff

this thread is awesome!!!! disappointed that they were the headshell type?? lol... they have been out for years and years, they have been out way before serato... and 3rd.. why not do research first???

And JC is right about the corrosion and the color wires situation...

SMH :-/

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Im the impatient type i guess.

Never said it was a battle vid. It was just a video mix.

hahah This thread made me spit out my drank.



That doesnt really mean much to be honest. I could give you a Bugatti pit up against an M3 and that doesnt necessarily mean youre going to win. Ive seen people get murdered with just breaks and samples off of singles and accas. Just saying

very true, especialy in the digital age

This is an old topic but just because I saw someone above post that Guitar Center doesn't take returns on cartridges - WELL...

Shure's return policy on cartridges is to bring the defective product back to the store where you bought it. That would mean Guitar Center for you. What Guitar Center is supposed to be doing is sending the defective items back to Shure and Shure will send them either a refund on their cost or a replacement.

That's Shure's policy. Guitar Center can suck it.

ay
suck it
yep

How did I miss this!

This thread D-E-L-I-V-E-R-S

But one thing know has commented on yet:


the 5 posts later

Daem, just broke 3 wires trying to put the freaking wires onto headshell. I have the same problem like Robert W

****BLANK STARE*****

just realized it now that the extra 4 wires that i got with original shure m447 are totally different, extra ones' head is triangle-shaped, while the ones' originally premounted on the shell are round-shaped.

***Double Blank Stare****

yeah, guess I'll do the same

but it really seems like they're not made for shure headshells


thanks s3kn0tr0n1c

What were you using to replace them... a chainsaw??? I haven't broken three headshell wires in 29 years.

I bought a couple of stanton head shells after i bought my Shure M44-7s because they include a set of wires where the connectors arent so small and they fit a lot easier to the pins. Some people say they never have a problem with those wires, while a lot of others say they do. The ends can break off really easily since theyre so small. Guitar Center doesnt sell extra wires, but im thinking Radio Shack might (wish i wouldve checked there 1st instead of buying 2 headshells i dont need).
Actually, i think someone posted a link in this thread to a shop that sells extra wires.

+1

this thread is hilarious
and the experienced dj's here are pretty funny also.

thanks serato!

Wow....just wow...shamwow.....J-Wow..........WOW

Let's try that again..



This really takes the cake....

I'm going to open up a "Customized Wires for Headshells" business.....I swear fo' Gawd...

^^ i got those new monster cable headshell wires, cost me $99 for one headshell set, man do they make my music sound better.....;)

Even better than the new control vinyl?

^^^^LOL.... ;)

Man, keep that on the LOW....

Not too many cats know about the "New" CV's...and the Monster Cable headshell wires...

^^sorry johnny, my music sounds so good, my cuts sooooo crazy, i got excited.....well now the cats out the bag........ they can go on the hunt these super high end wires

They just have to remember to ADJUST THEIR HEADSHELL WEIGHT, because those cables add additional Grams....but don't tell nobody....

;) man i sound like q bert or jazzy jeff wit them jawns! ......... ;)

YOU TOO???

:•) lol Over all a really good quality / good sounding Stylus!

Five years later lmf...

"SHURE M44-7 Setup & Tips"
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