Serato Software Feature Suggestions

What features would you like to see in Serato software?

Album Cover view as option for Crate insteaf list

fingas 12:55 AM - 21 July, 2004
A bunch of our folks have wanted to see album covers as the content in the crate item view (instead of a list). It would be dopest if the view showed you, at the album level, only 1 jacket for each album instead of a jacket for each tune (until you click on that record of course when you see the list of songs on that album)
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AJ 12:45 AM - 25 July, 2004
The problem with this idea is that each mp3 has its own album art embedded, so if you had several tracks from one album, each with a different art file included, then only one of the art files would be visible for that album.

Actually what you are describing sounds like an alternate version of browsing. Throwing up the pictures of the albums instead of the names. I suspect the option though cool, would not be as popular as some others we could work on, because (a) many people don't use the album tag, (b) many people don't bother inserting the artwork.
kamron 9:27 PM - 10 August, 2004
still in all to have it as a browse option would be very hot
kamron 9:28 PM - 10 August, 2004
especially when rockin at a club in the dark much easier to identify jointz from artwork then readin the name
ACME 10:06 PM - 26 May, 2005
Please make artwork bigger in the browser.
I use to look at records in the crate (the real one) and find the one I want looking at the cover, not reading artist/title, so IMHO it makes sense.
bush 11:44 AM - 27 May, 2005
Ye the artwork is tiny
Soulsonica™ 3:30 PM - 4 May, 2007
Quote:
...folks have wanted to see album covers as the content in the crate item view (instead of a list).


Not "instead" of, but rather "with" so you get the best of both search worlds (graphical AND text).

Example: soulsonica.com

Thread: www.scratchlive.net
Soulsonica™ 3:31 PM - 4 May, 2007
The thumbnails next to the tracks would make flying through crates very realistic because you would be able to see multiples at a time and go straight to the one you want to select all on visual cues. As it is right now, you have to mouse/key onto a track before you ever see the artwork to see if it is the one you want or not. Think of how selection speed would increase ten-fold being able to see a half dozen or so tracks' coverart at a time while scrolling through tracks in a crate.
Inofaith 8:03 PM - 4 May, 2007
yes, my searching trough real crates of vinyl is very visual... i look for album covers not a name or track or label.. in fact, i dont even know half of my collections names cuz i just grab the cover out of there becouse i know which songs are inside.

this would make perfectley sense.

and i would like to add, could the scrolling be magnified id the middle like searchin through your Dock on a Mac so that the selected album cover is bigger and better viewable and the rest is tiny.

could also display the selected album in the screen we use now in 1.7 but the size of it is not adjustable... hmm
WarpNote 4:15 AM - 23 May, 2007
I see several ways this could be implemented. I guess a browsing feature would be the most obvious one? Like Soulsonica I really enjoy selecting my tracks from visual cues. It's just the habbit I've developed over the years spinning LP's & 12”s. For me at least, being able to browse the “acutal” albums would probably make me more creative out on a gig...

For this to work and be stable, I guess serato needs to prebuild the icons to a certain optimized size, most likely in the build overviews function, while the hardware is disconnected. I think SSL would be best of NOT doing it in a fancy “iTunes-Style”, as this probably would slow the interface down and create to much load on the system.

For the layout it would be nice to have the option between a horisontal and vertical split.

Vertical:
farm1.static.flickr.com
farm1.static.flickr.com

Horisontal:
farm1.static.flickr.com
farm1.static.flickr.com

For the loaded decks it would be nice to have the artwort AND the name of the album. Someone suggested to have this on the spinning platter, but I think that would obstruct pitch, bpm, cues and color coding info.

This type of browsing really only makes sense when either sorting by artist or album. If people assign different pictures to songs for the same album, I guess they really need to think about how they organize their music? Then maybe this feature is not for them.

When It comes to how to select all of this strictly using vinyl, I guess that need some rethinking. Maybe 2 different selection tracks at the end of the vinyl?

This is just my thoughts on this issue. It would be nice to hear what you people think? As I understand Serato is working on the video version, and I guess video selection presents a similar challenge?

Thanks for reading,
WarpNote
Evil_banana 10:16 AM - 24 May, 2007
I'm repeating myself, but I'm just adding to the thread. this would be way cool, I remember my records more by the sleeve than actually by the name. So yes, this graphical use of artwork would help VERY much and make me feel more at home.

Serato is all about vinyl Emulation... Well, I think that feeling like you're going through you vinyls in your crates is a great part of that. It would approach the "real" thing since my memory works in a graphical way (if it works at all)


+1
prof. rockwell 1:27 PM - 3 July, 2007
as said in the other thread, and in a discussion I was having with some friends, I think that the cover artwork browse feature that is in iTunes is a good idea. I agree with EB, I grew up flipping through crates, and it would be cool to recreate that digitally somehow.
AKIEM 8:01 PM - 3 July, 2007
+1
WarpNote 10:21 PM - 19 July, 2007
Another mockup with iTunes style listview: farm2.static.flickr.com

So AJ, what you think about this type of coverart browsing? I guess there's different opionions about iTunes, but seems to me official serato policy is to make the 2 work together as smooth as posible? Would it slow down serato signinfically, or would it be possible to implement?
WarpNote
chimpboy 7:30 AM - 22 May, 2008
Glad to see so many others have the same idea. For me the covers are pretty much how i find my vinyl choons, can't remember all the names, only the pictures and the music. Find scratch a little less intuitve cause of this. I rekon theres plenty of room in the browser for an i-tunes cover flow style thing in the top third and the rest with track names, would be awesome, just like the real thing. Dunno how hard it would be to do this.
SeriousCyrus 1:30 PM - 6 November, 2008
Another one who'd love to see Cover Flow for browsing.
CRAZYD 11:27 PM - 9 January, 2009
ok guys fingas is rite the clip art will be doper than da list view, here why I had a long weekend of 4 days playing 5hr each nite an the list view was starting to kill my eyes, i started to think itunes have the sleave view an i use itunes so it would be cool if scratch live had such a view it all so help when scrolling for track where the name is in ya head be cant place it but you knw it if ya get me . so guys please look into putting in an option where ya can choose between views bless an keepon doing ya thing its being good over the years CrzzzD
midnightcharger2 11:59 AM - 13 January, 2009
+1 on the cover flow.
thejp 11:21 AM - 22 January, 2009
well, 5 years have passed since the first suggestion... I'm guessing they're not interested ;)

But yeah, it would be a cool idea :D
WarpNote 12:07 PM - 22 January, 2009
Quote:
well, 5 years have passed since the first suggestion... I'm guessing they're not interested ;)

Oh, I do believe the do, I'm hoping 1.9 is the beginning of the implementation.

Ever since I first got SSL Ive been wanting this. Since soulsonica.com came up with his sketch I've also done my own, Also, my ideas came from using Rapid Evolution farm1.static.flickr.com

1st installment
I was using a widescreen laptop at that time..
farm1.static.flickr.com (vertical left split)
farm1.static.flickr.com (vertical right split)
farm1.static.flickr.com (horisontal top split)
farm1.static.flickr.com (horisontal bottom split)

2nd installment
People thought you would need a large screen, not so:
www.flickr.com (List view, like iTunes)
www.flickr.com (horisontal top split)
www.flickr.com (vertical left split)

3rd installment
I made some mockups for netbook resolution to further prove my point, also using library zoom:
www.flickr.com (Small Icons/Artwork, zoom level 1)
www.flickr.com (Medium Icons/Artwork zoom level 2)
www.flickr.com (Large Icons/Artwork zoom level 3)

Keep begging and I believe they will eventually deliver it...
Also, I guess you've seen the other thread about this -> www.scratchlive.net
Petey Polska 9:30 PM - 12 February, 2009
Bump > soulsonica.com

This interface looks amazing, and I know that when I'm trying to put together music for a mix, I end up listening through iTunes, making a playlist and letting Serato import that because I've been used to picking my music visually through the album art. So to have a view where I could do this in the offline SSL mode as well as live when trying to create a mix would be incredible. It is literally the only feature that I want, that is short of making SSL IMHO perfect.
welly 7:16 AM - 24 May, 2009
This has to get implemented!!

As many others have said in this thread, I remember 99% of my vinyl by sight (cover/label art), not by track names.

This can't be that difficult to implement Serato?
Evil_banana 12:11 PM - 25 May, 2009
they're working on it
SeriousCyrus 12:05 PM - 26 May, 2009
+1
I find it hard to associate track names and artists to the track itself, but spotting a cover brings it right back to me.

It would mean a lot less squinting at the list too.
midnightcharger2 12:17 PM - 27 May, 2009
Begging like a hungry dog.
+1
Also posted in a seperate thread, longer and wider scroll bars instead of little dots.
Similar to typical windows scroll bars.

Adjustable bpm information according to platter speed up in the album art / title section instead of the static base bpm information.
C-Real 10:07 AM - 28 May, 2009
+1
Danny_DJ 12:10 AM - 16 August, 2009
+1
Evil_banana 7:49 AM - 18 August, 2009
Guys, add you preference/comments to scratchlive.net
It's about the exact same thing, but it has a lot more posts (But more to show interest is always better :o)
StatixXx 10:53 PM - 30 August, 2009
Well it seems that they have done the loaded track part... what about the creats.. is there any ETA as too when it may come out or if they are even looking at it?

This visual creat feature that would be just left or right of the actual track would be key for my full move to digital... don't get me wrong I will always love my "Black Crack" (vinyl) But I deffently could use help sorting through all that new stuff that I have added to my collectin via digital :)

COME ON SERATO... lets make it happen :)
StatixXx 10:56 PM - 30 August, 2009
As i'm sure many of you have done the transition from Vinyl to Digital and there is no better way to get it done than with Serato... Hands Down. I guess the issue i'm still having is that I just have way too much music and for me, a Visual person, would love to be able to reference a lable cover (album Cover) while i'm searching for that special fit (Track).

Starting off for the first 4 years djing with vinyl I had unfortunatly relied a little too much on what the record/cover/lable looked like and not as much on what the track was called. No excuses just my own issues.. LOL

MY QUESTION IS.. (finally) Is or will serato look at putting "art on deck" feature in the crates... I feel this would seriously help us vinyl heads and long time partiers move smother and quicker into the digital world, since i'm sure for many of us Memorization is not always our strong suit ;)

PLEASE HELP THE SORTING BRAIN FREEZE!

Best Regards
StatixXx
Soulsonica™ 1:49 PM - 2 September, 2009
Quote:
Well it seems that they have done the loaded track part... what about the creats.. is there any ETA as too when it may come out or if they are even looking at it?

This visual creat feature that would be just left or right of the actual track would be key for my full move to digital... don't get me wrong I will always love my "Black Crack" (vinyl) But I deffently could use help sorting through all that new stuff that I have added to my collectin via digital :)

COME ON SERATO... lets make it happen :)

Quote:
As i'm sure many of you have done the transition from Vinyl to Digital and there is no better way to get it done than with Serato... Hands Down. I guess the issue i'm still having is that I just have way too much music and for me, a Visual person, would love to be able to reference a lable cover (album Cover) while i'm searching for that special fit (Track).

Starting off for the first 4 years djing with vinyl I had unfortunatly relied a little too much on what the record/cover/lable looked like and not as much on what the track was called. No excuses just my own issues.. LOL

MY QUESTION IS.. (finally) Is or will serato look at putting "art on deck" feature in the crates... I feel this would seriously help us vinyl heads and long time partiers move smother and quicker into the digital world, since i'm sure for many of us Memorization is not always our strong suit ;)

PLEASE HELP THE SORTING BRAIN FREEZE!

Best Regards
StatixXx


Your opinions, needs, and questions regarding true browsable cover art are shared by many SL users StatixXx - please add your messages to this thread scratchlive.net (as Evil_Banana noted, it's probably the largest one covering this topic).
Remo de Janeiro 8:22 PM - 3 March, 2010
PLEASE increase the size of the artwork in player and browsing window.
being an old school Dj and used to playing with real records. I have trained my mind to use visual recall.In the club dark lighting situations combned with drinks make reading small text difficult. I can look at an album sleeve and hear 4 bars in my mind for the track.Having Artwork and Vinyl control is why I have chosen Serrato. And I do have the artwork in the Id3 of every mp3 i play out.
action711 12:03 PM - 13 March, 2011
Seriously, this would be the best thing to happen to Scratch. As most DJ's come from an environment of flicking through a crate to pick a tune and then, to use Scratch, have to pick a tune by it's name/artist, I thought this would be top of the list for Serato to implement.

Just like iTunes cover flow.

Stop faffing about, do it!
fingas 1:51 AM - 29 November, 2012
dudes.... i started this thread in 2004....

u kidding me?
WarpNote 5:30 AM - 29 November, 2012
Serato almost got there, but just almost. I use library list view at the smallest setting myself these days. Not optimal, but does the job for now. I'm gonna try to present this in the SDJ feature suggestion area, and hope the idea catches on.
WarpNote 10:23 AM - 29 November, 2012
fingas 2:06 PM - 29 November, 2012
Big ups WarpNote.
AKIEM 5:51 PM - 29 November, 2012
Quote:
The problem with this idea is that each mp3 has its own album art embedded, so if you had several tracks from one album, each with a different art file included, then only one of the art files would be visible for that album.

Actually what you are describing sounds like an alternate version of browsing. Throwing up the pictures of the albums instead of the names. I suspect the option though cool, would not be as popular as some others we could work on, because (a) many people don't use the album tag, (b) many people don't bother inserting the artwork.


Actually what this sounds like to me is the "Linking Files to each other" suggestion. Or the way I would like to see it "Embedded Crates" serato.com

If you could place a Subcrate within the Files Window you could 'group or link' all whatever songs you want together yet within a playlist.

Then all we would need for this suggestion is to let that crate be seen as a cover art.

So, you could group an entire album into a subcrate, and place that crate into the File Window, assign the art - and there you go.
WarpNote 1:49 PM - 2 December, 2012
I guess that would make a lot of crates Akiem,
sadly SSL gets sluggish and unstable with huge amounts of crates.
AKIEM 8:34 PM - 2 December, 2012
Quote:
I guess that would make a lot of crates Akiem,
sadly SSL gets sluggish and unstable with huge amounts of crates.


well it shouldn't tho