The issue with Android is that there are hundreds (if not thousands) of configurations out there. Additionally most of the device manufacturers are not issuing updates to the latest versions of the OS and most Android usually are slower in updating their devices to the newest OS. These in general are the reasons why some apps are stripped down on Android or not even released on that platform.

The company I used to work for had these issues when developing for mobile phones. According to our data of more than 1 million users more than 80 % of iOS users were on the last two versions while Android users were at less than 30 % with the majority on a version that was 4 years old.

When we stopped supporting the 6-7 year old versions of the platforms we had almost no complaints by iOS users but several hundreds from Android users.

If Serato made a mobile app (which seems unlikely to me) it probably would go the same route as djay.

The developers of Mixxx are working on an Android version of Mixxx, and if you're interested, they look forward to your help.

So what you are really saying is, "I need to convert to iOS... (LOL)" "We are the BORG, you will be assimilated... Resistance is futile..."

I see what you mean though. The onus should really be on the device owners to make sure they are running the latest version. Just like minimum specs for running Serato for the other platforms. "You have to this tall to ride this ride..." I guess the same can be said for using a different platform.

Oooooh well.

Thank you! I'll look into that!

Android isn’t a multimedia realtime OS ported from desktop OS like iOS. Android was a copycat from Google when the first iPhone was released and neglected essential parts in its kernel because it was thought as “OS for smartphone” in a moment that smartphone meaned iPhone. Also the lack of proper “store” made the full ecosystem the madness you finally can understand.

Those two pieces made it a joke against iOS for music (and video) production. Luckly things seem evolve and apps like DaVinci became multiplatform but the business model for djing apps isn’t comparable. People will get DaVince (since is free) as complement but nobody will buy a 20 bucks (or subscription model based) djing apps if it hasn’t all the desktop features and even so, neither (look at DjPlayer with DVS support since first iPad around 2012)

So,
Yes if you want a Sdj-like in a tablet you only have one path: Apple.
You can go for Surface but good luck with battery and other issues like stems and heat.

I will love to see brands releasing a dedicated multimedia OS (like BeOS or ELKOS) so we can rid of Apple dependency but then… apps. There are lots of apps for iPad some of them amazingly weird and some of them standards (like FabFilter) that will be never ported to Android due its business model. Some will be like DaVinci…

And the worst/best is you can use some of them in your mac just from your iPad purchases with no extra cost. Apps like Lumbeat iBassist and Drummers to name an example of killer app (and killer hardware since these are better than even some hardware counterparts in their field) etc etc.

For multimedia, music and video making there’s no choice. You only think there’s because you didn’t tried it or you are an integrist (which is ok and we need people like that) but probably not working professionally with musicking tools (not saying bad).
Amateur or integrist linux artists could let themselves sacrifice comfortability for ethics or any reason and it’s ok. Professional musicking people will go Apple 99% of the times or standalone hardware if not.

It’s hard to swallow and a shit but it’s a fact. Apple doesn’t “mind control” or make people dumb… make things work frictionless (or less frictionless than competency) and takes care of stability, reliability… so as “tools” are the less painful (making them the best by elimination).

I know people buying macbooks back in the day just for running SSL… leaving these “clean” of anything else just because were rock solid as tool (macintel era carbonate white macbooks). Nowadays you can run Djay with stems and DVS over an iPhone and the key is the OS, not so much the hardware (but being developed in junction helps with debuging)

Appstore makes also easy for developers to have a sales channel. It’s far from perfect but because it wasn’t developed with indie developers in mind but for majors and still these could make a living and grow.

IDK… I will love to see alternatives but that’s the world we live in…

Wow Serato - just no love at all... straight to iOS.

I configure Android devices as part of my day job. These are used in Warehouses and connect to my company's private network.

My company have a security department who are extremely nervous about Android devices for many of the reasons highlighted above. It took me 6 months of pen testing with lots of back and forth and revisions to my config before they signed it off. I say signed it off, I still had to sign my name as the risk owner on 3 areas of the OS, meaning it was on me if anything went sideways.

As much as people like to dump on Apple for being a 'closed system' (it actually isn't really), there's a reason they are preferred by many software vendors over Android.

iOS is more locked down than some of us need it to be. Many moons ago, my company provided me with an iPhone. At that time, I was responsible for our wireless environment. Couldn't load any tools to the iPhone to do signal sweeps (looking for overlaps, penetration, etc...) I had to use my own Android. Company was happy.

And there are still plenty of vendors making apps for Android. Can't be that bad, there wouldn't be a Play Store on Android.

I think we’re making life way too complicated for ourselves! Here we are, arguing about whether someone is "Team Apple" or "Team Android"—when, in reality, it’s simple to keep everyone happy! Apps like djay and rekordbox have stable Android versions—with features that adapt to the hardware being used—and they’re already being used by DJs all over the world. If they really wanted to, they could do it too! Serato is the best DJ software in the world! Let’s hope it happens soon!

I agree! They don't have to leave us out in the cold, with our faces pressed to the steamy windows like hungry children 😅😁

Serato users will not accept less than desktop as you can see arguing in other topics about “this or that not being supported” so how do you expect a more downsized version of what actually was released?
Also Djay and Rekordbox need to be everywhere. Djay because it born at mobile device (iPhone/iPad) and Rekorbox because as standard it’s the way to go (almost a product in every category of the market).
If someone wants to understand the pros and cons the better place is Superpowered blog from DjPlayer/TauDj developer itself.

superpowered.com

superpowered.com

Things are being improved version after version (of android) but issues from fragmentation and low sales are still there.

superpowered.com

The graph at the bottom explains why Android is “forever behind” aside the fact that from its inception it wasn’t designed as multimedia machine but just a iPhone copycat (but without core audio and core midi…) Sad but true. Superpowered efforts are there and improvements are done as I said.

Maybe Serato surprises us and releases an Android version after the iOS one is bug ironed… I didn’t expect the iOS version at all so What I know?

:/

It’s not about Apple vs Android, it’s about having a sensible discussion about things like security and version management.

Android by design is a bit ‘wild west’ because there is no consistency between devices as to which version is installed, meaning a massive minefield when it comes to app development.

With Apple iOS, Serato know they are developing 2 UI’s for the same OS that will work across all currently supported devices in circulation.

Sorry to keep going on about this... but what are we even talking about? Djay and Rekordbox come from Algoriddim and Pioneer—these aren't some "fake" platforms! They come from brands that have been established in the industry for decades; why should Serato be any less capable? If they wanted to, they could easily overtake them in no time! Latency, MIDI, reliability—that’s all just nonsense! The reality is simple: Pioneer and Algoriddim are doing their own thing, and there’s no real issue here! Serato only launched this app a few days ago and it’s already at the top—I’m sure they’ll surprise us! As always! Optimism is the key to life! Long live Serato!

You mean the level of support on Android that leads to threads like this?

community.algoriddim.com

Alright, alright, I’ve read it. I’m not going to continue this conversation—it’s being taken way too seriously. We aren’t building software for ballistic applications! We just want to make music on any platform. I’ll leave it at that. Peace.