Wack...a 4 ch with no jogwheel indicator. Not a smart move👎🏼

Nice nice nice setup for mobile djs.

Chino, yes please report back. This looks very impressive... compact and TWO mic inputs! Yay. How do Roland controller sound cards compare to Pioneer SX2/3?

So far people have said the Rolands sound better than Pioneers, even with the 505/808 and their quirks (not sound related).

The platters are a bit tiny considering I was looking to go big with the 1000SRT, but they cram a lot of cool stuff in that 707M! I mean watching the drum machine on there made it look so easy that even I could get some use out of it.

Roland’s sound quality i think is far superior to the SX models. The audio signal just sounds so much clearer and punchy and I’m a fan of Pioneer but when you compare other products it is a very different sound.

Too busy layout for such a small controller 😒
Could be good for producer djs or dj live concert djs...but for performing djs or mobile djs it misses some key features (large jogwheels, led indicator, pitch length, direct acces to color FX...)

It looks like Roland have very deliberately launched this as a replacement for all the ageing Denon MC6000's out there. And in that particular market, they'll sell loads of these.

For me personally though, I moved away from the Denon 6000 as I found it too cramped. I suspect i'd have the same problem with this as well.

Very impressive though. Love the zone output & the saveable scenes.

I agree but it’s Funny cause it seems they focused directly on mobile DJs. I guess the truth is DJs looking the 2nd coming of a slightly bigger VCI-380 isn’t strong enough for a sales POV? It’s weird cause making a VCI-380 clone shouldn’t be this hard. I think the manufacturers are purposely omitting things to keep product differentiation

Personally, as a wedding DJ, I prefer a smaller controller like this. I am 52 years old and I've tried to make my setup as light and portable as possible. I don't care about large jogs (rarely use them). I am really interested in this controller.

And thanks to everyone for the input on sound quality. Sounds like Roland has an impressive sound card.

Coming from the SR2 you’d think they’d have longer pitch sliders for a 4 ch controller. While the Roland has great key features for mobile djs it’s missing too much. When i compared my Mixars Primo vs SR2 pitch slider it was such a huge difference and easier to work with but again it’s a 100mm pitch slider compared to a half. I hate shorter pitch sliders cause you really have to nudge with them to get a perfect bpm percentage. When you try a full pitch slider it’s so much more convenient to work with as it’s dead on. I wonder if Roland has another controller at DJ Expo we don’t know of yet.

The manual is already available for download on Roland's site, & after skimming through it, I already have questions.

Your supposed to be able to send a different mix to the zone output, which can be configured from the screen at the top/right of the controller. I can't find any mention of this in the manual though..... so how do you do this exactly?
Also.... can you only send an external source (phone/tablet etc) that you have plugged in to an input to the zone output, or will there be some clever Serato magic that lets you assign a playlist & send it to one channel on the controller then on to the zone output?

I realise it's early days, & the final firmware might not be fully baked yet. But i'm definitely intrigued by the possibilities.

@ 1:20 it mentions zone output
youtu.be

The big seller of this Roland is the mic preamp you won’t get your standard mic quality with this controller it’s gonna sound amazing and that’s where many company’s struggle as a controller preamp. Very promising for those mobile guys it’s just missing too much for me to get use out of it.

Interesting point ! As a weeding have you ever received complains or bad impressions about your gear ?
I have the feeling people don't have high confidence to djs having small controllers...they say it's not a serious dj...

I’d say maybe 5% max care about the DJs gear.

Anyway...I have to admit this controller is fully packed with a tons of features..maybe too much...but the mics inputs with "anti larsen", external audio playing from usb inouts(in serato facebook page, a video shows we can play audio from a phone/tablet with the dual usb !!!), th OSC and TR, zone output...etc...👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

This controller would have deserved a more "serious" size with the few missing features we're talking about.

I was even very VERY when I saw the M in the name, I thought it was a motorized controller 😅
WHY none of the big companies can make something like the S4 MK3 !!! I'm still hoping a Serato or even a Rekordbox version of it !

What kinda set up you got? Maybe we got different definitions of “care”, but two turntables and mixer still gets me that “wow” factor at most of weddings and Corp gigs. Is it overkill, yes but from a presentation standpoint I’d always go with turntables over a small controller if I’m in a visible setting. Obviously what/how i play is more important, but looks of your gear set an expectation that i like.

I have multiple setups ranging from turntables to CDJs to controllers. Most event planners and wedding planners I deal with do not try to highlight the DJ. I’ve also found most younger clients and guest are more amazed by controller setups. As long as good music packs the floor they don’t care what you are using.

Hmmm, i respect that and I could see younger not caring as much, but if I’m pretty visible, i get a way better amazement w the tables set up. Older cats tend to be more appreciative and the younger cats either don’t care or amazed in a “I’m trying to figure out what you’re doing” way.

707m a great functional controller thou, but until my back gives out, it ain’t for me. I’d get bored.

Its night and day
the dj808 uses a 32bit 96khz soundcard

Roland has managed to cramp alot of neat features in a compact controller, it looks even smaller than the Mixars Primo, however they missed the mark on the jogwheel indicator which is a must for me

With more reviews coming out we will see more of this controller, I'm leaning towards the Mixars Primo though

CHINO........... WHERE was your DDJ-1000SRT post!!!!!!!!!!

SLACKING!!

our mobile DJ focus groups stated this was not a issue for them. i like jogwheel indicators, just like you do, but there wasn't enough feedback to justify increasing the cost to add. we're in the minority category.



the pitch fader on the 707m is higher resolution than similar faders found on the dj-202/505. i find them quite usable, but i've been using this controller for a while now



yep, same feedback we got for the most part. if dj's want to look prestigious, you can just dvs turntables or cdj's.




the final firmware is baked, and we're showing it at DJ Expo first.

within the LCD menu is something called SCENE EDIT. If you go into this menu, then scroll right...you can manage output settings–here you can scroll through to the MASTER, BOOTH or ZONE outputs. within each of these output settings are channel assignment, a 4-band EQ to "tune the output" (different from the mixer EQ, what you're doing here is like setting up a car stereo), multi-band compressor settings, and limiter function.

so, you can assign any number of channels to the a selected output. for example, if you want just the mics to come out of the zone output...you can assign that (although, we've already created a preset for this).

likewise, let's say...theoretically...you wanted to DJ 2 different sets, in 2 different rooms. you can assign...say, channels 1/2 to MASTER OUT and channels 3/4 to BOOTH out, and literally DJ 2 diff sets at once. not really realistic, but a cool feature.

if you use USB-B to play music from your phone, you can control that volume with the sampler knob.

Does the 505 have the jog wheel indicator?

No only the 808 does which is why i didn’t understand why the 707m does not. Tbh how many 4 ch controllers have them? Pretty much all now? It’s a step backwards imo.

As Descry said, it was a decision to reduce cost, pure and simple.

It costs pennies to had a led indicator 😉.
So it's not a valid argument.
The small footprint is more a valid IMO. I can't imagine how busy this unit is inside.

Once again, I miss VCI 380 design 😢...
We should start a pool/survey to make big companies realize what we really want, no?

Fair enough. I also don’t like channel separation the unit just looks very busy and too cluttered for my preference. I have no doubt it will sound great though.

on paper, i certainly understand the logic. however, it's not true that it costs pennies to add a led indicator. there are things beyond the cost of the actual mfg'd part that end up affecting the unit's price (such as r&d of how to implement the part, tooling costs, etc.).

for the 707m, we've done our homework, and stand by the decisions we've made for this particular piece. we surveyed a a large number of mobile dj/event companies ranging from million dollar, multi-op dj/lighting businesses, mobile dj associations like SEDA in the UK, ADJA in the US...down to to the single-op, 'weekend warrior" dj, and feel like we delivered a product the majority of our surveyed DJ's requested.

@Descry aye respect for giving us insight.

In your opinion, why do you think no one has come up w a proper vci-380 replacement (mixars is pretty close)? It almost seems companies are purposefully avoid putting all bells and whistles in a small controller that turntable dudes would like.

Low ROI?

imho, the unit would end up being outside of a targeted price point.

the irony here is "no led indicator is a deal breaker", we want a modern day vci-380. but...the vci-380 didn't have jog wheel indicators either. so based off that one feature alone, i'm not understanding how that's the controller we're saying has all the bells and whistles? school me though.

nope, i'm wrong. the vci-380 does have indicators.

Yep, and with small modifications it could have become the perfect 707M

you may want to survey here for the next unit

1. I will like a DJ 808 without the mirrored layout and more mics, with independent EQ etc.

2. I will like a Proper 2 channel controller, without sticky jogs, not cramped, jog wheel play head indicator, 2 mics with independent eq and control

Was the VCI-380 even a huge seller?

It seems like most of the negative comments from people are mostly based on personal opinion rather than the actual market research that Roland did.

Yep, feels like people just want to crap on what they don't have or even need.

Have you been part of this survey ? Anyone else here ?

Personally I haven't made any negative comments on this unit, either saying it's a bad controller...too busy controller yes but not bad.

I only say with a few basic key features it could have been perfect ! Let's say it a (very?) good first iteration of what mobile/controllist djs want.

Vci 300 and 380 were the reasons why there are so many Serato controllers now for mobile djs

I almost bought the 380...but Vestax went under.

I own the Roland DJ 808. Amazing kit.

But I ve stopped gigging out with it, I use the SR2 which I like for size but not for other things.

Keeping an eye on the primo as well, waiting for the bugs to be fixed

Market research is based on personal opinions.............

True. I worded that incorrectly.

I dig the master eq compression and limiter. In fact I’ve been thinking that would be a great feature add to Serato itself.

As an owner of several Roland products, I would love to have a Roland DJ controller, but they are all too big for my needs. For me, a controller must be really portable and fit inside a backpack.

My VCI380 has been rock solid, no parts have ever been replaced (I have had to clean the faders a few times to stop bleeding).

I hope the next release from Roland is the one to make me give up the old girl...

I'm still using my VCI-380 too. Perfect size 2 channel controller

The 707M looks spot on and would suit a mobile DJ perfectly!

I love the fact they have brought back the oscillator, that was one of my favourite things about my Roland DJ1000.

+1!! Roland nailed it!!! I was able to check it out at the BPM Supreme booth at the DJ Expo.

It has almost the same size as the Denon MC6000MK2(only slightly taller). That makes it SUPER portable. Build quality is top notch too. Independant mic inputs(4), Roland sound quality is EXCELLENT!! The ability to eq & save scenes combined with the zone output is just DOPE!!

Granted, the 707M may not be as sexy as the DDJ-1000. No large jog wheels with indicators, no Mag fader etc. The reason is because that is not Roland's targeted audience. The Roland 707M is a pure mobile jock's work horse. It's for the DJs doing 2 to 3 weddings, mitzvahs & corporate events a week.

Now IF Roland WANTED to...
They could easily release a DJ-909 controller with THEIR version of large ULTRA low latency jog wheels. Make the crossfader upgradeable to innofaders & put the TR-s MKII drummachine/sampler in it! Just throwing out some ideas @Roland

Roland has put the M for "Mobile" in 707M for one reason => a bigger 707 will come !!

Anything else you saw that hasn’t been released yet that would interest us? While the 707m is cool they could of added track indicator hell even the mixtrack platinum has one. I’m guessing the 1000srt & 707m were the really ground breaking products there?

LMAO!! Im still recovering from the sensory overload from the DJ Expo!!

That being said... The DDJ-1000 can be summed up with one word...DOPE!!!

It's so dope that it WILL be the first Pioneer controller that I buy!! Review coming soon...

Pretty much everything else was announced/ released prior to the Expo.

I also tried out the Prime 4. That could be the ULTIMATE standalone kit IF it ran Serato embedded & had similar platters that are on the DJ-808 or DDJ-1000!

Bass Boss speakers are THE TRUTH & the RCF setup for the main stage performances was INCREDIBLE!!!!!

I know this thread was orginally started about the Roland DJ-707M but there was alot of great products at the Expo this year!

Being a mobile guy and a long term user of the Vestax VCI-380, I gotta say this is the perfect replacement candidate that I have been waiting for. It packs everything I need for my mobile needs. Looks like the Pro-X has a hard case for it already (through a picture on their website).

Yes jogs wheels indicator would be nice but I am in the minority group who barely use them. My only real disappointment is the RCA Zone Out. Wish these were at least 1/4" TRS.

Need to know when these hit the stores.

Hit them on the chat for preorder pricing. Looks they’ll have shipment next week.
www.zzounds.com

Can I just clarify... Because I'm seeing so many comments saying "this controller looks busy"
But if you're a mobile DJ that's usually feeding into an external mixer, so you can run additional mics/outputs... Isn't it less busy than multiple units?

This product is not for me, but I feel like Roland nailed the target market really well.

Honestly they did. I just really dont have as much fun djin with these types, but just for zone control and Mics with individual eqs alone, I'm considering it.

I hope this sparks another controllers to do likewise and consider more turnable friendly features.

This has been my experience too. I have multiple setups now. When I first started DJing, I took my 1200s & a mixer out to every gig because that's all I had. Now, I pick & choose what gear I use depending on the type of event & my client's expectations.

They even have zone out and midi out- 2 mics, and 2 usbs, in that size!

Just sold my SR2. This thing is getting copped!



Same!

Also, wondering if there are any accessories available yet for this, bags, flight cases, etc.

I was just thinking the same!!! There is a ProX flight case in the pic on Roland's website. Went to ProX's website but to no avail.

Interesting. I was checking out dimensions, and it's pretty close in size to the dj 202, so I wonder if a flight case for the 202 would work for it.

DJ 202 DJ 707M
W 18.87" W 18.68"
D 11.75" D 13.06"

we worked with prox to get a perfect fitting flight case, those should be available soon. it also fits into a magma riot backpack.

inventory should hit US retailers by september.

👆🏾Ok thanks. Hopefully early sept. Got some mid sept mobile gigs coming up.

@descry nice work! If I could get a request in for a controller with rotary faders or a swappable kit.

As much as I love Roland products, I think the biggest hurdle for this particular controller is going to be the initial price point. Personally, I think the sweet spot is $700- $800 in order to directly compete with the Denon MC6000MK2.

I'm usually able to get 15%- 20% off of most online purchases but no discounts for the DJ-707M, yet. Maybe around Christmas there will be a special offer...

I sold my original controller for two reasons.
1) I was NOT going to downsize to a controller and then have to use an external mixer just for decent mic pres. The other controllers had the mic section as an afterthought at best.

2) My original controller sounded like a toy compared to CD/Mixer/SL box I was using before.

It looks like Roland did a good job of a good 2 channel mic section with good eq and fx. The main output section on paper looks superior to the other controllers - multi-band compression and separate EQ. I wouldn't be using compression with compressed MP3s though.

This was pretty much my situation with the SR2. One more thing to carry around; a Yamaha mixer.

This! But if that’s what i have to do to get a clean mic signal out of my SR2 then so be it. I can’t stand shitty mic audio.

I honestly thought that thing had been discontinued. Guess not.

yeah, I'm surprised it's still around as well. The LED colors make me think of Serato iTCH lol

An updated Denon MC6000MK3 would have been cool but now that the Roland DJ-707M is releasing soon... I'd rather get that!!

DEEJDAVE,

I Bet you thought of me when you first saw/heard of this controller!?! :-)

Maybe this is the replacement for my "outdated /discontinued" Rane MP25 with Rane SL3 ?
Better Mic EQ, clever iphone hookup via USB, no need for Reloop Neon and trying to map it to SDJ with play/pause, no need for dual 15 band EQ as 707 has one though only 4 band, no need for SL3,
basically it's all in 1, less gear, more compact, less weight

with this 707m, i would just need a case to accommodate wireless mics plus maybe my Rane EQ and BBE 882i Sound Maximizer :-)

maybe i should start selling my gear
or should i wait for the Roland 808m? lol

Descry,

Roland nailed it as far as a mobile controller/mixer
There really wasn't any with Mic inputs, 4 band EQ which all mobile DJ's need
I was using the old Rane MP25, with Rane SL3, Reloop Neon pads, dual 15 band EQ, BBE 882i Maximizer. I assume the 4 band EQ with Compressor won't be quite as good as dedicated hardware

is there a 808m in the pipeline? :-)
Is there a case that will allow adding wireless mic receivers, maybe an EQ, (extra 2 rack spaces)
I mean if this is meantr for mobile DJ's, we need to room to add few more things to make it all in 1

GREAT to have someone from Roland here!!!

hmm, seems if the mixer case was to have room for more gear, (wireless mic receiver, EQ)
it would have to be below the mixer as the cables would be in the way on front and on back of this mixer.
My Rane MP25 was designed in a way where outputs were on back but recessed way in.

Descry,

Does this unit have both Delay and Reverb for mics?
Can i use simultaneously and control their parameters independently?
and save preset?

This would be xtremely handy for my Band Gigs where i play keyboard and sing while not DJ'ing.

Descry,

is there EQ on the dual 1/4" and 1/8" inputs? (i REALLY hope so)
can you use all 3 ins at same time?
how do you control volume of each independently (i hope LEVEL knob doesn't affect all 3 at same time), would make zero sense)

Descry,

can you have the L 1/4 as Mic, and the R 1/4 as line/mono,
for let's say 3 Mic inputs with a guest guitar/keyboard?

can we route the 3 AUX IN's to let's say channel 3 and/or 4 on mixer to take advantage of EQ, and level controls?

DJ Chino

What's it gonna be and why?

DDJ-1000SRT or
707m

I know myself well enough that I will prob end up with BOTH (yes, I'm a gear hoarder!). I love the platters, Mag fader & hardware efxs of the DDJ-1000SRT. I love all the inputs, EQ capability, portability & functionality of the DJ-707M.

Nothing wrong with having a main controller & always carrying a backup.

I'll also keep the DJ-808 in the home studio for remixing. I like having options!! Lol

you're a gear hoarder like deejdave? lol

the 707m would have been even more incredible with those 1000 platters, with display, and even more with waveform display,

if only we could take the best of both and combine into 1,
maybe we'll see a 808m

i think it's time to start selling my outdated gear, Rane MP25, SL3, Reloop Neon, etc
and rethink my setup as i am 100% mobile, weddings, birthdays, sweet 16, corp, etc

just hope the overall sound of Roland is as good or close to the Rane

Roland sound quality is top notch. My DJ-808 & Rane 72 both sound great!

DJ Chimo,

have you A/B'd Rane, Roland, Vestax, Pioneer, etc
I am a sound freak, i think my Rane MP25 sounds amazing, clean and punchy!!
Also appreciate great mic preamps, which i hop Roland has
I do own Roland gear, PA mixer, Keuboards etc, no Roland DJ gear

love that Roland added FX to mic inputs, maybe useable for singing/playing (band duo)

I may have but I definitely thought of you when I saw
serato.com

Here’s a LONG but in-depth, hands on video
Warning: video can be boring at times, lol

youtu.be

The only thing that holds me back is assuming Roland will release an “upgrade” to this time an even higher end model , 808m
As we have the 202, 505, 808. Etc.
But of course there’s always something better around the corner. Lol

I think one thing we might be overlooking is the fact that the 707m is a dual soundcard controller.

You're right. That along with the extra mic/aux inputs, eq, zone out etc is why the price is what it is.

As I said, my only disappointment with the 707M is the lame RCA Zone Out. Who makes RCA cables these days anyway? Everything else is awesome! Will order once the ProX Flight Case is available.

Totally hear you on that, but look at the size of the unit and how much is packed in it. There are bigger, spacier controllers that also cost more that don't have all these features. Nothing a simple adapter could't fix.

I hear you though.

Looks dope but I just can’t function with that small of jogwheels they look so tiny i understand it’s for mobile guys but us mobile djs do enjoy decent sized jogwheels.
youtu.be

Too be honest, on a controller i don't care anyway since they're static. At the end of the day it is nothing like using a moving platter on turntables. I like at controllers as a compromise, and convenience.

The wind got taken out of the 380’s sales because the sx dropped just a few months later.

The 6000 isn’t serato plug and play tho is it? So wouldn’t you need to spend an additional $140 or so to get dj pro access? Or does it come with a code...

So looking at the manual, there’s a “sub out” mode that allows you to send a low passed and mono-able signal out for subwoofers. What I haven’t seen is whether there’s a correlating highpass out with the same filter point so that the unit can function as a standalone crossover?

The Eq out seems like the low band is just a shelf that maxes out at -12db rather than a filter...

I think it only comes with lite and you would need to upgrade to pro. At that price and those expenses, might as well buy something else.

Is there a case for this 707m that has 2 or 3 rackspaces underneath?

Seems you can’t mount anything in front or in back as both sides need access to inputs and outputs

Just need to mount 2 wireless mic receivers, a 15 band stereo EQ, and maybe my BBE Sonic Maximizer

Free upgrade to Pro when you register the 6000.
I owned one.

Ah ok, copy

Honestly, although I'd love bigger platters on 707m. I'm encouraged that Roland "gets it" and I'm eagerly awaiting what's next. My only fear is that the demographic that would love the 707m with bigger plats, tension ctr & indicator is not profitable enough... Especially with pioneer "appearing" to have a large market share of club style DJs.

Hope I'm wrong. More I think about it, if someone cloned the traktor little controller with moving platters that would might work.

Presumably the brief was to build a controller with all the features we know about, but build it to a small footprint (similar or close in size Denon's MC600).

Here's how i'd have done it.....

When i'm DJing to a dancefloor, I only use two channels. I'll occasionally use 4 if i'm tech-opping an awards show or similar, but on those occasions I don't need all the full features of the current channel strip.

So why not reduce channels C&D to just a level control (like Native instruments Z2 mixer) & maybe play & sync buttons (play buttons for C&D would be really useful as you wouldn't have to switch layers on the player section to start a track), & maybe move C&D controls to the top right (where the screen is). This would free up a little more room for slightly bigger better specified jog wheels.

The fx/routing functions previously accessed via the screen would still be in the hardware, but could be controlled over USB or wifi from your tablet or laptop. This would also create an option to offer more control of these functions via a bigger screen.

I've swung back and forth about replacing my old DDJ-SX with a 1000SRT or the 707M.. and as much as the big platters look cool to me on the Pioneer, I just have more heart for Roland at the moment.

Never thought the drum machine would look cool to me but after watching the demo videos I really wanna try it with some of my 80s music videos. I've never done mobile gigs even though my friend has tried to get me to help on a few events and I think with the dual sound card and mic inputs I might just tag along now for some extra fun.

I think if I were to chose btwn the SX line and the SRT i would got to the SX3 just based on layout and SDJ PRO controls alone. But btwn the 3, I'd go Roland.

Side note, Sweetwater said end of September for the Roland one. Sucks, I just sold my main controller and i'll be needed a new one. Guess I'll have to temporarily cop the SX3 to hold me down.

Are there still issues with the SX3 or did that all get sorted with updates?

The last one I played with was fine.. that whole first wave of hardware being faulty debacle is in the past. Just make sure it has the black dot by the serial #.

Thanks for that info, much appreciated.

Between the SRT and the 707, I’d still wait at least 6 months to a year before purchasing.

The SX3 recall and the 505 platter problems are still fresh in my memory,

And both units have owners still reporting problems even after being sent back for a fix.

I hear ya! It's just rough cuz that the 707 has all the features I want, but you're right.

here's one of the better 707m videos that goes into great detail
for those who want a nice overview of most/all features on this tiny beast :-)

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yeah Phil does a good job explaining things. I found a second disappointment. The screen size for the Menu! LOL Come on ROLAND! It's touch screen age, what's with this dot matrix thingie?! LOL

Yeah Phil does a good job explaining things. I found a second disappointment. The screen size for the Menu! LOL Come on ROLAND! It's touch screen age, what's with this dot matrix thingie?! LOL

ye, at least put a 2 line display,

disappointing is that there is 1 level button for AUX
so this means you cant use 1/8" simultaneously with 1/4"??
this means that you could or can't use 4 mics?
if yes, 4 mics, this means volume of BOTH mics is controlled by 1 level knob?
really, how much would it cost to have 3 level buttons for the 3 AUX?
another $20 MAYBE ??

and do BOTH mics (1&2) have to either have FX or no FX?
seems there is only 1 FX on button, not ideal,
i always need 1 mic wet, 1 mic dry (at same time)

i can go on and on
i wish Roland would have consulted me
this mixer/controller would have been SO MUCH BETTER!!

and 3 knobs for 3 SDJ effects would have been nice too, not just 1 for all 3 FX
well at least you can control SDJ effects with 707m, something you CAN'T do with 1000SRT :-),

would also be cool if this had at least a 7 or 10 band main EQ,
but hey, i'll take the 4 band,
NO other mixer offers this

also, let us Replace those cheesy samples with our own
that;s it for now

A product is really about how well it serves the end user plain and simple.
A survey doesn't help and never will for the simple fact that they people you are surveying in most cases are never going to purchase the device.
Since you have taken it upon yourself to say you delivered the product they requested have them submit their receipts to prove that they actually purchase one.

Without some form of measurement the survey of people is just a waste or at best a marketing tool.
Bad marketing at that.
I'm glad you stand by your decision but that in no way, shape or form makes it a good decision.

Lots of good features in this controller, I like the direction they are going. Too bad they ruined their reputation with the 505 & 808. It will take a lot of people saying this thing is flawless for years before I would touch it. Hopefully by then they will address the following:

- Needs to be rack mountable. For a dedicated mobile device that’s under 19” it’s insane that was not in the design.
- Proper dedicated vinyl mode button NOT accessed via a shift key or sharing a display. Mobile DJs play a lot of real-time music not being able to quickly know and change your deck setting is a bad idea.
- Track scrub strip would be great, not critical but handy.
- Censor button.
- USB charger for an iPad / other device would have been dope.
- IEC plug VS that cheap power brick time-bomb. Such a flimsy critical component is not professional.
- Mono hardware button & master pan.

Using a cheap DDJSB and a Mackie vlz1202 gives me a much more professional set of tools (4 proper mic channels, better routing, real gain control, standard power cord, a back up mixer) for around half the price...

Ive got the 808.

What’s the problem with your 808?

Yes to 19” rackmount. Like my Rane MP 25
But I understand some wanna put in bag
So maybe Rack adapters included or as an option

Yes to standard IEC plug like my MP25

You can’t say “pro” when you need the cheesy power brick
How many times you forget that thing
Nothing like the old standard plug that you can find or buy everywhere.

Again I wish o had some say with this.

Rane build is by far THE BEST
Nobody comes close.
Totally metal chassis Real plug
Top notch buttons etc.
top notch sound.

I know this hasn’t released, shipped yet but...

How long till we see an “upgrade” to this amazing little piece of gear”? 808m perhaps?

If it’s in the works.
I wish Roland would hit us up for feedback on this forum
Who better to design this then is who use SDJ often??

Don’t have one but the pitch resolution issue took quite a while to fix & the 505 was unstable in my experience.

Who here is getting the 707m?
And why the 707m in favor of the 1000SRT?
They seem to be same price

Though 1000SRT looks cooler
Seems Roland offers more in smaller package for MOBILE DJ
So if you’re ok with small jogs, which I am as I don’t scratch, it’s 707m

Would love to A/B the Roland to my Rane for Overall sound quality which I think is the MOST important part which many ignore or unfortunately many cannot distinguish, I mean that is what your clients and people will hear.
Why have top notch high end speakers when you have “inferior” sound to begin with

Not to brag but I have gotten tons of complements on my sound and I think that’s due in part to my equipment including the mixer, dedicated EQ, sonic maximizer, QSC double 18” etc
I basically use my same band PA for my DJ gigs :-)

Some good questions here.

I think I’m gonna get one. I favor it it over the 1000SRT for a bunch of different reasons. For one, I play a lot of bars, lounges that either have an S9 and turntables, or some sort of rane and turntable setup or CDJ. So I definitely do NOT need a controller for that. I actually prefer turntables and moving platters.

There are those things random spots that may have a sound system but no dedicated controller/cdj/turntable/mixer setup, or the gear might be janky. A portable controller comes in handy for that. I don’t want to lug around anything too bulky. But then, I’m started to do more and more mobile gigs and I no longer carry turntables and a mixer for those. I want to carry the lightest setup possible for that. I even sold my 15 tops and subs and going for an evox system. I’m trying to go compact, but good sound on everything.

Now back to the SRT vs 707m. Not to say that what I listed didn’t wasn’t a comparison, but to dive deeper in it. I got used to the SP1 and the SR2 layout where it mirrors the features on Serato Dj Pro. I REALLY like that a lot. I don’t want to have to midi customize anything. It a button or pad says loop, I want it to loop. If it’s fx1 I want it to be fx1. Another reason is the zone out feature. That can be extremely useful for a event where there’s a separate room. Wonderful! 2 to 4 mic out put capability, and feedback mic feature. These are all things I want in one controller. I don’t care about the scratch and jogwheels because I want to get this for MOBILE events. Exactly what it’s designed for. Which I think some ppl are missing the point about. If I wanna do tricks, scratch and do that party party stuff, that’s what the bars, clubs, lounges I play at are for. And those have what I prefer, turntables.

Lastly, to me... the SRT does not feel complete in the least bit. For starters some of the features the 1000 has are clearly missing on the 1000SRT. It’s as if pioneer just handed over a stripped down version to serato. If it’s gonna be that’s size and price then throw some more features on it. Anyway, that’s my opinion on it. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Side note, I never considered the Denon MC7000. What are people’s thoughts on it. In the 800-1000 range it seems to have some nice features. I imagine it would sound better than the SB, SR, and SX range. Can anyone confirm?

I've used the 7000 a couple of times. The build & sound quality is good. The only issue I've run into is with the touch capacitive jog wheels. I had the jogs become completely unresponsitive due to "grounding issues". It happened twice in a carpeted ballroom & once at an outdoor event.

FWIW the only real similarity/s between the 707M and the 1000SRT is that they are new and for Serato. I don't think anyone who is interested in one will/would be interested in the other. I am a but of a gear enthusiast and I don't have the slightest bit of interest in the 707m but yet the SRT (even with its shortcomings) appealed to me enough to pull the trigger.

I'm the exception. I'm definitely interested in BOTH but for very different reasons. I already pulled the trigger on the DDJ-1000SRT (my first ever Pioneer DJ controller).

I'm seriously considering the 707M as a backup controller.

Word, thanks for pointing that out. It seems to be around the same size as the DDJ-SX range, give or take.

I hear ya. What makes you favor the SRT? And like you said, to be fair I think comparing the two is like apples and oranges. The two have different markets they're aim at. I think it's more of a what you need either one for.

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6000mk2 vs 707m

I have A/B' the 505 as well as the original 1000 to both the 62 and the 72 and the roland is closer than a controller has any right to be - and the 505 soundcard is supposedly a step below the 808 and 707. There is absolutely 0 doubt in my mind that hte 707 is going to be so much better sounding than the 1000.

Dave is. a Pioneer fanboy so he pretty much owns every new Pio controller. :)

It all boils down to needs. What are your needs of a controller to do your thing, including keeping your workflow at ease?

I am not a fan of Pioneer, or Roland for that matter, but I found the 1000SRT was an after thought that offers short changes in comparison to the Rekordbox version. But that's just me.

I think the BIGGEST omission from the SRT
Is not being able to control SDJ FX
That is mind boggling to
If it fits in the original 1000 the 707m
Why leave that key function out?

The 707m only has one gain knob for all 3
But alt least you can use any 3 FX

Deejdave and others getting SRT
Your thoughts? Do you guys not use SDJ FX
Will be ok with just the Pioneer hardware FX?

I think Pioneer dropped the ball on that

Just my $0.02

Having to have an additional controller just for SDJ
Would be crazy
There was room in SRT controller with slight tweaks

In general, I only use effects sparingly to accent my mixes. I do really like the hardware efxs on the SRT so I will just use those.

Pioneer has tapped into the "Fun Factor" of DJing with the DDJ-1000 series. Personally, I think thats why it is such a popular controller. The jogs, Mag fader & hardware efxs are just plain FUN to use! So much so, that someone like myself (who has never bought a Pioneer DJ controller, mixer or decks) is now buying one.

The Roland DJ-707M is a pure functional workhorse for me. I'm buying it for the features & sound quality- plain & simple.

There is no one magical DJ product that is "THE BEST". Buy what you like & have fun using it!!!

Chino please A/B the Roland bs Pioneer
for overall sound quality, punch
I’d be very interested in financing out. :-)

Sorry for typos.
Typical while playing organ at mass. Lol

Sound quality Roland wins

Based on my experience your probably right!

I can confirm that the DDJ-1000 (Rekordbox version) sounds better than the SX series but has no where near the sound quality of a Roland DJ-808. I have yet to receive my SRT. Once it's delivered, I will also do a side by side comparison.

of course use the same exact PA, same overall volume etc, :-)
but i'm sure you guys knew that already

how much you guys think my Rane MP-25 is worth, new condition, as it's been racked
anyone looking for these? maybe a 70 year old DJ starting out who needs a mixer more than a controller

why sell the MP-25? keep it as a backup...

Agreed. Having it as a backup is worth more than the price it will fetch.

Agree as well!! LOL. Truth to me being a fan of Pioneer but I am also into Rane, A&H & slowly gaining my trust back in Denon. I probably (in my world this means definitely WILL) end up with the Prime 4 and I am 1000% certain it will be more capable than my SRT BUT my opinion stands in that I am happy with it and for the price I got it for it is hard to beat value wise.

ye maybe keep it, but in reality, it basically is JUST a mixer,
and i have tons of mixers, all sizes that i use with my duo and band,
so if i switch to a NEW setup (707m), the MP25 will really serve no purpose
if i keep MP25, then i have to keep SL3 as well, to open Serato

i also have the Akai AMX, AFX, too much gear like Dave

this guy hates the SRT lol
i agree on lots of his points

Watchwww.youtube.com

YUP! He is DEAD ON! I find this release is a mockery of SDJ rather than the support/collaboration the two companies has.

It’s almost like Pioneer was like F you serato, here ya go! Figure the rest out. Lol

Pioneer wouldn't release it without Serato's approval
How this SRT omits SDJ's effects is crazy if you ask me

This clearly wasn’t intended for the serato fx crowd. Let it go... Target group is specifically club and turntables peeps who are 100% pio effects. Since the S9, I havent used serato efx.

I’m guessing if they updated the sx w some of the 1000 features certain peeps would be happy.

Funny part is the fastest way to ruin a Dj set is excessive and improperly used fx and truth be told this will serve to save many from themselves........ I’m sure this doesn’t apply to any of the above though :) but for real there is one element that is kind of being thrown to the side......... pioneer fx and Serato fx are completely different animals. We all know they will be scurrying yo implement a means of communicating the beat to the SRT (as this being forgotten is nothing short of embarrassing) and when they do the fact is most (who have the SRT) will never think of Serato fx again.

@musiclee don’t ever compare our gear hoarding levels. I have turned the excessive buying thing into an art!!! Lol well I used to at least. Truth be told the last hardware I purchased was the NXS2 setup (well an additional Rane 64 too but I already had one so doesn’t count) prior to the SRT so needless to say I was due for more shiny!!!

😂😂😂

Pioneer conspiracy to sink SDJ and promote RKDJ 😅

the way i see it is no controller has it all, not the SRT, not the 707m
you just have to find the one that works best for your needs
and for MY needs it's definitely the 707m, till the next one comes out, lol

That's exactly it brotha!! You can have the SRT and be happy or you can pay around twicw as much and get an SZ2. You can have the DDJ-200 and rock it out on the go or you can get the 808 and see where the creativity leads you. You can get down with modern advantages such as independent streaming with the Prime 4 or you can even take advantage of live remixing with the Kontrol S8. HELL the S8 and Twitch decided no need for platters and plenty were fine with that but if you DO want platters you can have actual CDJ type with the SRT, direct drive platters with the NS7III or even the best of both worlds with the haptic capabilities/spinning platters of the Kontrol S4..................... then again perhaps we should scrap it all and stop trying because a company got it right YEARS ago with the VCI-380 :)


Point is there is a controller for everyone who wants one and with this in mind if you do NOT want the 707M or the SRT that is fine as nobody is forcing you to get one but TRUST when I say for every one who does not want one there are a hundred who do.............. by all means speak your minds as this is the only way we will see results but lets not pretend this was not a response to a MASSIVE demand and even with its shortcomings it is still enjoyed by those................ who actually have one :) FUNNY how this controller so hated (by those who do not have one) yet it seems to make an appearance everywhere. Even in a post titled "NEW Roland DJ-707M controller"


Truth be told the SRT is doing just fine as a matter of fact it is sold out in just about every store that carried it and let's ask ourselves when the last time that happened with ANY controller? With this FACT let's let it die and give the floor back to the Roland DJ-707M ............

It’s all about the feedback
Wait, we hate feedback
No worries, the 707m will take care of it ;- )

It looks like you will have to buy an open top rack case, add a rack shelf then Velcro the 707m to the rack shelf. My guess is they skimped on rackable mounts because most of the body is plastic.

Odyssey and ProX will both make their 707m case with 1U underneath as standard.
I talked to reps from both companies
They will also consider making a case with 2U underneath

As a mobile DJ, it is imperative that all your gear is in 1 box, ready to go (wireless mic receiver, EQ, power strip, etc) instead of having to carry separate and plug in every time

Nice! Looking forward to those cases.

Iirc, the Mixars primo actually sold out for a bit.

"sold out" does not mean much,
if you have let's say, 5 units per store, it's easy to sell out, lol

This applies to the Primo (which I can't say either way) but not Pioneer for reasons of volume. Pioneer most likely sold more SRT's already than all Mixars hardware combined to date :)

another 707m video recently added:

Watchwww.youtube.com

Really good vid highlighting many of the DJ-707M features!!

Hello

Just dropping in here from the UK

Ex Chairman of SEDA [Was the Chairman when Roland approached us for this development team for the DJ-707M]

I am an end user and an owner of a Roland DJ-707M controller :)

It was more than just a survey, we were / are under an NDA with Roland, so there was much more than a survey going on.

I am limited as to what I can say because of the NDA, but rest assured Roland have gone above and beyond with this controller by seeking a cross platform input from many Mobile & Event DJs from across the globe.

A controller for Mobile DJs developed by Mobile DJs with Roland.

"The Swiss Army Knife of DJ Controllers"

It's whats under the hood that [also] counts...

+1!! Roland DEF understands the needs of the mobile DJ community.

A DJ-808 MKII with larger jogs, 2 mics & TR-S MKII built-in would be GREAT @Roland !!! ; )

Give us an 808m

Add to that:
a real pro power standard power cable
One you can get anywhere (no power bricks)

Dedicated volume knobs and EQ for mics 3,4
Combo mic/line jack for all 4 Mics

Bigger jog wheels with LCD like SRT

10 band EQ. With Maximizer.

Way BIGGER LCD screen to make editing, changing parameters easier.

Ability to create and save our own Drum loops.

Rack mountable. For MOBILE

Am I missing anything guys??

Forgot: 3 knobs per deck for SDJ effects, not 1

Totally different FX on each mic channel (with 2 FX per mic channel)

All Metal , like Rane or maybe black brushed Aluminum

Dedicated volume knob for 1/8” in with EQ via LCD

Sounds crazy but, Maybe a version without jogwheels for those who don’t dont te for them.
Think how compact that would be.

the only thing holding me back right now from getting the 707m is the CASE

yes, i need to be able to mount it and have 2U spaces under,
maybe i can get away with 1U, IF there is room to tuck receiver, in the back, behind my rackmount EQ (in same 1U space), i'll squuze a power strip back there too i guess

Glenski,

is the 707m the 1st of many?
i would love to see an "upgrade" to 707m,
not that there's anything wrong with it, well... you know :-)
so anything in the pipeline soon after?

Alas, I am not privvy to this information...

I'm sure Roland would like to get a return on the DJ-707M first and foremost

Who knows what is next for Roland?

Stay positive and keep feeding back, you never know who is watching or reading these forums 😉

"Alas, I am not privvy to this information..."

Is this Glenski speaking or your NDA speaking?? ;-)

Glenski speaking...

how about adding this to your 707m setup right under the 707m
plug that into AUX line 1&2, possibilities are endless,
gives you instant 2 band EQ, bluetooth, volume for music AND mics, charger for iphone,
turns your 2 in's into 4, with more flexibility and control
can't beat the size, and price either :-)

www.samsontech.com

video demo: :-)

Watchwww.youtube.com

and let's take this 1 step further!!!
great for a DJ and a Band (all in 1)

motu.com

and rack-mountable you say...

either you have a massive rack (hehehe) or never seen the size of the 808!

the 808m , does not have to be same size as 808 :-)

right... ;)

Smaller, with more features and bigger jogs... :P

ok, keep jog size same, add Displays on them, just improve on it
i wouldn't care if jogs got smaller, like old school 19" used to have (ie. HC4500)
then you'd have room for EVERYTHING

does 707m fit in standard 19" rack? width
gotta check it out

YIKES! No thanks lol 🚫

I’d prefer a 707m Pro before a shrunkin 808

-IEC power
-Rack mounts
-Editable “oscillator” sounds. Could just be the sample player.
-Pan pot(s)
-Metal body

I’m fine with 1 effect dial. Mobile DJs aren’t layering minimal techno they are echoing out of unmixable rock.

If it was a professional grade machine I’d pay this premium price for it but it looks like another plasticky Roland toy grade finish controller with some cool features that’s about 75% of what it should be. I hope I’m wrong and it’s amazing but the hardware sortfalls are a deal breaker at $1000.

ok, keep them same size as 707m, lol
just add the SDJ info screen like SRT

577er,

agree with all,
let us put in our own oscillator sounds,
those in Roland are cheesy as heck, cell phone, really?
air horn that's not even the classic one we all LOVE, lol

LOL You will learn to love musiclee :)

Anyone own this that can report actual real world use yet? The 202 and 505 were plagued w jog wheel and freezing issues... wndering how these 707m actually works. Afs and compression actually work or are gimmicks? How is the mic quality? The jogs here seem different from both the 808 and the 202/505.. anyone get hands on them yet? How do they compare to the 808s jogs?

the 707m's ive been using are trouble free. the platters on the 707m is not based off the 202/505 design.

Ha thanks descry... u still the man... I'm hoping for non roland peeps' feedback as well.

Where did you cop? I thought they weren’t available yet.

He's one of the creators!

Some DJ-707M units have been released for testing and real world use before launch, for feedback and reviews.

I'm having to use and learn Serato DJ (Hence why I am here) as I am a VDJ user.

The DJ-707M is a remarkable controller.

Did you see that little logo under his name? No biases or anything though LOL :)

Haha well that explains it. I’ve been waiving my money at all the major audio spots, but all I’m hearing is “end of September”.

they're not wrong =)

I was on the train and on my phone so I wasn’t paying a whole lot of attention.

Descry is a super good dude.... stand up guy for sure and his input is golden. Fyi. I just also want to hear what others think.

I’ll still wait for a case with 2U
Before I pull the trigger in the 707m
No way I will want to show up to gig
And have hook up my external gear to it
And then unhook it at every gig
That takes the “m” out of mobile
That means wireless mic receiver. eq. And maybe small rackmount mixer for extra ins. ( I do play in band)

Most mobile DJs carry more than just a mixer/controller plus speakers to a gig.

U can easily have custom cases made or better yet make one yourself. Many sites and dyi guides

Custom means $$$ bucks
Stock cases are already expensive enough. Lol

Does 707m or SRT have Flip function?
Or is Flip no really used, like Slicer.

Flip controller is Parameter +/- in hot cue mode for most Serato controllers

I use slicer all the time, slept on like crazy

Difference is negligible imo.. maybe 50 more than the overpriced stock cases. In the big scheme of things it's worth it

POLL:

all here getting the 707m
what bag or case will you want for this swiss army knife, lol?

no rack space under?
1U, 2U, 3U?
just a padded bag?

what other gear will you want to mount/connect? (ie, mics, eq, power strip, maximizer, etc)

i think it would be important to let ProX, Odyssey, etc know our "mobile" needs!!

i think they will both release with 1U, to try to keep case "small"
i think i'd rather a 2U

also, will you guys want case with or without that laptop sliding shelf above?
i know some DJ's prefer the laptop stands so they can place computer over to the side

having no sliding shelf would reduce 707m rack height quite a bit.

would be great if both versions of the case were made, with or without laptop sliding shelf

Pro x or odyssey case for mobile gigs

1U under for wireless mic receiver.

Soft padded bag for normal gigs for spots with no turntables or cdjs.

Definitely 2u under, laptop shelf above. 2u gives enough space for power conditioner and dual mic racked... 2u size gives enough depth for packing power cords, xlrs, two mics, anything else small u could need

Black on black

I prefer a rigid soft case for this size controller. I take the controller out & put it on top to add extra height. It's all about light weight portability for me when it comes to a 707M type controller for mobile use.

www.bhphotovideo.com

I have a separate rack case to house my mics, power conditioner, light controller etc.

Isn’t 2u under the console pretty much the standard nowadays?

"2u size gives enough depth for packing power cords, xlrs, two mics, anything else small u could need"

great point!! theres always space behind in back,
the 2U would allow speaker cables , power cable, mic, to be tucked in back there

yes to black on black
doesnt have to be Fleight Ready, heavy,
could be "lighter duty" but still rigid, solid, etc
will not be taking on a plane

Anyone know exact dimensions of 707m
Don’t recall seeing that info on Roland site

Thx

www.roland.com

It is listed under specs at the bottom.

707M is available at Steves Music in Toronto. I was there Friday and saw it and was surprised actually. Almost bought it but changed my mind because there is no hard case for it yet.

Glenski. Thanks for specs info.
DVO. Just use the cardboard case for now. Lol

I emailed odyssey and they said they are not going to make a case for the 707m. Pro X has one in production but no release date at this time. There is a company in the UK called Swan Flight and I love their cases. I contacted them about making a custom case with sliding laptop shelf and 1U below. I ordered! They said it should ship to me in 7 to 10 days.

Swan or road cases USA out of long island should be reasonable as well... what was cost at swan including delivery?

$426 usd total. That is with their flight panel material, which is a little more expensive, but a little lighter in weight.

Wow. $426
Almost half ye 707m

I spoke with Odyssey on phone a week ago
And they said a case was “in the works”
So not sure what will happen

Is the 707m different size from other controllers ??
I mean there are so many mixers. controllers out there
You’d think there would be something that would fit like a glove already made

Weird, because about a week ago, Dave Lopez at Odyssey told me they weren’t going to make a case for the 707m. Hmmm

I think I mentioned somewhere in the thread that the size isn’t that different from another one of their controllers (I forget which one, on the train to work), but if you go to Sweetwater on your computer, and do “compare” the sizes aren’t that different. Somewhere in this thread I brought this up before knowing that there would be an official case.

But $426 is a lot!!!!

Looks like you can use one of these SKB 10x(whatever you want) rack cases with 707m by Velcroing it to the rails.
Watchm.youtube.com
The plastic SKB cases are lighter than wood racks and you can add a folding laptop shelf.

I fit my MC4000 into a case made for a VCI380 with very minor modifications to the foam which anyone with a xacto blade and a hot glue gun can do. Im sure there are existing production cases out there for much less. 400 for a case is rediculous.

This is steep for a case. I will wait for the Pro-X hardcase and will order the 707M at the same time.

Agreed 400+ is ridiculous! Especially for something you won’t keep for that long anyway. Cases are always hard to sell back too. When I sold my SR2 I ended up just giving away the case with it.

www.proxdirect.com

no rack apce under :-(
but maybe that's just a stock pic,
they did tell me over phone it would have at least a 1U under

"rack space"

so it seems they may have blacl on black and black and silver

Maybe it’s just a stock photo and not the right photo?

On ProX site I saw both versions. Black black and black silver

another AWESOME and DETAILED overview of the 707m by Roland
learned a few things never mentioned before

Watchwww.youtube.com

What new compared to older review videos ???

Who has these in stock? Need one

Just got mine, and I'm positively surprised with the layout, things are very nicely laid out. I was very anxious about it being too cramped, but it's totally fine.

This feels much like using the VCI-300 that I had a few years ago. Very easy to manage everything if you just pay a little bit of attention and have good coordination.

The jogs, while small, are impressive. The onboard FX are really nice, too.

I'm replacing a Numark Scratch with it. My main usage will be with a couple of TTs, but I wanted something with decent phono inputs and a couple of hardware FX for when playing with vinyl. Similar, better options are too expensive (Reloop Elite, Pioneer S9), and most controllers have poor phono inputs and are quite large, as they try to offer as much as they can in the jog area.

So the 707m offers a good balance. I have a very decent DJ mixer, a phenomenal sound mixer (which will be handy when doing podcasts and recording work), plus I get something that I can use on the go for the occasional rooftop party.

This is the best thing I've seen since the VCI-380. This is the kind of thing that shows why traditional brands such as Roland, Stanton, and Vestax get so much love. I hope Roland succeeds where Vestax and Stanton could not.

Djkom,

Fact that when you press power button “accidentally”
The unit does not turn off
You have to confirm on LCD “yes” and press knob in

For mobile DJ’s you always have uncontrollable kids that love to touch your shi#. :-)

No one mentioned that before
The little things that make the difference

Ooh yes ! Nice one 😉

Djkom, you thinkin of gettin it? or something else, or nothing else lol

i would LOVE to hear this 707m,
put it right next to my Rane MP-25
through my main PA system, not headphones
and compare overall sound quality, punch, "noise", etc

Roland, please send me one to test :-)

Anyone know if you can PAN the main outs on the 707m?
I don't see a knob for that
I'm hoping we can do it via the MENU

Why would i want that you may ask?
As a mobile DJ, sometimes you are forced to play in a corner, or on top or in front of a table with people, so at times i PAN one side with my Rane, so volume is lower on that side,
yes of course i can turn down the speakers or amps, but that is a "workaround" IMO

Roland should have had me on their "planning board"

Descry ??

In that scenario you could have using 2 of the 3 outs (say Master and Zone) for each side

That’s another workaround using different outs on mixer for the same music output, same sound, and besides the connections are not the same (XLR vs 1/4 or RCA) so not practical at all

Easiest to have a PAN like all other mixers have
At least all other mixers I’ve ever used, Rane, Mackie, Allen&Heath, Yamaha, Soundcraft, EV, Roland, Presonus

y'all should read the manual.

www.roland.com

yes, there's a pan option.

nice, i likey!! thx
i'm a fan of the pan, lol

I’m going to print the manual and start reading
Even though I don’t own one yet
Anyone buy one yet ? I’ve seen it in stock online

Why not buy it then?

Mine arrives tomorrow. I will post my "review" once I get a chance to play with it.

That early!? Where did you purchase yours?

But what if the 808m comes out in a month?? Lol

Mike. You paid the full $999?
Sometimes you can use promo codes certain site.
I hate that I now have to pay Tax in New Jersey even if it comes from out of state. M

FWIW, I paid € 915 in a local dealer here in Lisbon, Portugal (Bimotor)

Dudu, tudo bem irmao,? ja nao vou a Portugal a 6 anos,
trabalho em NY, sou perto de coimbra (perto de praia de mira)

sorry guys for speaking portuguese, hope it's ok :-)

What you think of the 707m Dudu?

Dudu, why the 707m ,over all others including 1000 SRT?

I need to find somewhere that could guarantee shipping before the 20th.

because you have a gig that day?
Gio, you a mobile DJ? why the 707m?
just curious :-)

yeah i have an event on the 21st.

I'm in a weird predicament where I sold my SR2 recently, but got this mobile gig coming up. Before the 707m got announced I was going to just purchase an SX3 or MC7000. But now i definitely want the 707m. I dont wanna have to by something in the meantime, return it and get the 707m. Rather annoying.

I'm definitely NOT bringing my turntables. Mad a decision a long time ago to not do that anymore.

Support your local shop!?!

hmmm, not if it means saving $100+

I guess people are getting their hands on these

1st video of a quick mix with the 707m I see up on YouTube

youtu.be

How responsive are the jogs? Can u post a video? Can you compare it sound quality-wise to any other controllers you have used?

Mike. I guess what sold you were the mic inputs with EQ and FX. The anti feedback. And small form factor
Curious as to what other gear you have? EQ? Wireless mics. What case you getting for this 707m?

How is the main out EQ. It’s only 4 band
Then again. No other controller has a main EQ. :-)

If sound is like the Rane I’ll be ecstatic
Build quality will never be.
As a matter of fact NO other company comes close to Rane as far as build.
That’s why the Rane stuff is heavy as heck. Solid metal, steel.

Jogs are very responsive. I made a short video, but I'm not sure how to post it on here. It's hard to compare sound quality because I sold my previous controller, but to the "naked ear", it sounds fantastic... very clean and punchy.

The 3-bands on the independent mic channels are quite nice. And, I'm a fan of the smaller form factor, for sure. Other gear I have: No EQ. I use Audio Technica System 10 Pro dual wireless mics. The case I'm getting is being custom made by Swanflight and will have a 1U rack space underneath the controller for my mic receiver.

Descry,

do you think Roland can "upgrade" their 4-band main EQ, to let's say,
a 10 or 15 band, via a firmware update? :-)
that would be amazing and give us lots more control over our sound

I think you are expecting a lot for the price.

Swanflight makes some great cases. They made me a custom coffin a few months back and it’s been awesome. I opted for the lighter flight panel material also.

ok, so i'll take a 7-band EQ, then lol

to add, if can be done via firmware, is it really extra $$ to do so, maybe a little,
but would REALLY set this little beast apart even more :-)

Youtube.com or Dropbox.com and share the link.

Google drive and link it

yet another video JUST POSTED:

Watchwww.youtube.com

and another:

Watchwww.youtube.com

that 2nd video is interview with some of the actual DJ's that were on the design team,
or rather, that "consulted" with Roland

wish i was on that team :-)

Anyone here get their 707m yet?
Curious to “hear” what you have to say

Just received the DJ707M yesterday here in Germany. It is a replacement for a broken Denon MC6000MK2. Great to have the performance pads now and some more features :-) Updated the firmware from 1.00 to 1.02 was easy. The Roland fits nicely in my Denon Magma case.

First impression cons: had to define a scene first to get something on the XLR outputs. Sync of a song to tr drum sound seems not to work when song is already playing. Had some noise when loop is active, might be related to performance of my laptop.

Cheers, M.

so it's similar in size, smallish
but yes, a think a BIG upgrade, let's hope it is
PADS alone are biggest upgrade for you, plus EQ and FX on 2 mics
guess you have to get used to play/cue position too

can't believe that MK2 is still $699
that makes the 707m a bargain @ $999 IMO

Seemed like everyone that has units already are in EU. I guess that makes sense.

They are available here in select online retailers

Here meaning USA

I’d like to know where please. You saw my dilemma. Lol do tell!

Make sure you do a factory reset after you've updated the firmware...

Little tip from Roland support 😏

www.zzounds.com Just googled :)

Haha my man! To be fair I was google the past couple days and got no results. Thank you though! Bout hit that up.

Was just gonna post zzounds
But deejdave beat me to it
I have bought tons of stuff from them
Used to be tax free to NY
No longer the case. :-(
So you gotta pay the extra $65-$85 tax

Ahhh, thanx :-)

Gio. You pull the trigger yet?

I’m bout to! I hate doing shit on my phone. Bummer about the tax free to NY no longer being a thing. Taking the train to work, first thing ima do is hit up zzounds

It’s too early in the game to get it at lower price
as so few have places have them in stock.

Bummed about that too.

Was tryna support Sweetwater or proaudio but zzounds beat them to it. Might scoop some lights from them too. Need that. Looks like zzounds bout to get all my money.

I got mine a few days ago. I LOVE it. I am coming from a DDJ-SX3 and I like the Roland a lot more. I'm an older mobile DJ, so anything I can do to lighten my load is a good thing. I love the size and weight and the anti-feedback is crazy!

Think about it.
If the anti feedback is useable, good or close to DBX AFS2
That ALONE is worth $300
Anyone have an anti feedback unit they can compare
Would love to see/hear and A/B of this anti feedback feature

What do you like so much about the 707 compared to the pioneer ddj sx3 other than the size difference and anti feedback ability?

I am going to guess dedicated 2 mics with 3 band EQ and FX on each
Plus additional 2 mic in front.
Plus individual 3 outputs
Plus 4 band EQ on mains
Plus ability to control SDJ FX. Which I guess SX3 does too

I’m looking forward to getting mine.
I’m getting tempted. Lol

And probably sound quality.
Mike. Possible to still compare sound on your PA, with your “broken” SX3.
Pioneer vs Roland!!!

I thought your SX3 was broken. Lol.
Guess not

Just pulled the trigger!

Got that, a pair of RCF Evox J8, some lighting and a bunch of other stuff.

Should be coming in on Tuesday. I’ll let you all know my thoughts.

Please do! I have my eye on it as a backup. Im now also looking at the NEW MC-707...

TRUST when I say that gear lust is a serious illness!!! LMAO!!!

Yeah that MC-707 is looking real temping too. I can’t even think about that. I spent a real grip just now on mad gear.

I’ll keep you posted.

:) Totally back on the wagon. Denon Prime 4 is next. As soon as built in streaming and/or Serato support comes........... I was NOT interested in the standalone features of the Prime 4 but streaming is a totally different story :)

As you already know, I'm a legacy Denon DJ fan! I REALLY wanted to like the Prime 4 but it still NEEDS work!! IMHO, the platters feel awkward, kinda heavy with a latency to them.

The MOST DISAPPOINTING aspect of the Prime 4 is the Engine Prime software itself!! Even after all this time, it still feels like a Beta??!!! Basic beat griding & reading song bpm functionality sort of "work"(in the very loose sense of the word).

Hopefully, the new software team in NZ can improve or better yet REWRITE the whole program from the ground up!!

Another option is to make a Serato Embedded version of the Prime 4 with improved low latency jogs.

This is what I was using when I was reviewing some denon prime gear: sellfy.com

Basically let’s you use rekordbox and convert all of it to denon with minimal need to be in engine.

You only need to do an initial scan in engine and the app ports all the metadata and stuff like cues, grids, and the like from rekordbox.

That looks like a winner. Thanks man!

Denon should really hire the guy who makes that app - he has another one that basically syncs everything else - serato, rekordbox, traktor, djay pro, vdj, and a few others.

He will NEVER develop for anything but Mac and Denon often deals with Windows........ and FTR the developer is a true stand up dude.




Again I am not falling into the standalone trap but the Prime 4 has a very attractive feature set and for such a cheap price it is VERY hard to ignore. As far as an embedded Serato version I am pretty confident the good team at Serato knows the juice is not worth the squeeze and IF they EVER did consider such a risky move I think we can agree the only possible way to go about it would be Pioneer for multiple reasons but to be specific a Serato embedded device by Denon would command a price that Denon simply can NOT bring in. They have serious trouble selling units at their current price points and even clearance prices. The hardware is so great it simply does not make sense. Not sure if people have trust issues brought on from previous experiences with Denon (such as myself) or just not being able to sway from the solutions they already trust.


Although again I think they know this would not be the road to take when considering the big picture anyways.

For one thing the wave forms on the Prime aren’t side by side or as visually helpful as in serato. I had a chance to play around with one the other day and while it seems like it should be amazing, those two small issues made it feel clunky. Unless I’m playing vinyl I want the technology to make my life easier and more fun and as it stands serato is MUCH better at that.

Can we stick to the PRIME subject here, the Roland 707m? Lol

The prime is a contender for mobile DJs they should be compaired.

I would be as excited as you if this thing had a proper power plug. WHY ROLAND WHY DID YOY CHEAP OUT ON THAT! If the cheapest POS behringer mixer has an IEC plug why did you sabotage your $1000 controller that wants to be a mixing board 🤪

The what? Oh the 707 is old news LOL.
Trust this will NOT sell for $1000. Even IF they attempt to they will be forced to drop the price soon after its release as they did with the 808. As far as musiclee being excited you have to understand even with the amount of comments it IS an illusion as he won't actually buy one. LOL just joking but @musiclee actually am curious aside from the AMX what is the most recent HW you have purchased and what Serato HW do you currently own? I think I knew at one point but I can't be sure.

I purchase lots of band stuff to, not these “cheap” $1,000 mixers. Lol
Every keyboard is $3,000 to $5,000
I own 8 keyboards.
I have tons of mixers. Yamaha. Roland. Soundcrarft. Allen and Heath. EV. Presonus. Mackie. Samson. Yep pretty much all the brands. Have tons of hardware devices FX units. maximizers. EQs 4 of them. , few USB soundcards, another 4 or 5
A Mackie PA. 18” plus 12” tops A QSC PA. Same
Denon HC4500. 2 of them.
I have another 2 Yamaha speakers
Crown 2400 power amps , 3
QSC power amps 2
Rane Mp25. Rane SL3. Rane MP4 single rack mixer. Pro Tooks audio interfaces. Pro tools mixer.
Akai AMX. Akai AFX. Reloop Neons. (2)
Numark DJ2Go.
So I have some stuff.

Deejdave. You are not the only equipment hoarder my friend. Lol.

Haven’t bought too much lately as I’ve been busy been a new dad and building a house!!!

Ye bummer on that standard power supply on Roland.
Or lack of I guess

I thought I remembered you owning a 62 or something no or was it just the SL3, AMX & Numark DJ2Go in terms of current Serato hardware? I know you are a live performance guy and even if you weren't it'd be fine was just trying to remember your Serato arsenal. This DJ-707M DEF looks like it could be the perfect hardware for you............. You should jump on that zzsounds link above. Looks like they are one of the first.

This is the type of controller that's pretty niche, but every pro mobile guy I've mentioned it to has been excited about the featureset. It's not going fly off the shelves like the 1000SRT, but I think it could be a dark horse controller that builds in rep if it turns out to be reliable.

Yep, SL3, AMX & Numark DJ2Go. (SDJ hardware)
Plus old Serato Scratch Rane MP4 (great paperweight)

anyone know if you can have 2 independent FX on 1 MIC?

Just buy one already! What are you waiting for? Lol

I want your review on it first Gio, lol

or we wait for deejdave, he buys everything, even if he doesn't need it ;-)

Buy it, try it and if you don’t like it return it. Don’t worry about other people’s reviews. It may be the right piece for your rather than them.

lol

i doubt I'll hate it. but will letcha know when it comes in tomorrow. specs wise it has everything i would want so that's a no brainer.

what you have now Gio?
curious why you "upgrading"

can you create or import your own TR loops?
or we stuck with Roland's on-board patterns?
i know Rebel, Gio, buy it!!

I had an SR2 for mobile gigs, and i sold it. I liked it, but the idea was to eliminate having to take a mixer with me as well for mics and just general sound. It's no brainer upgrade for me. Also. I like that the 707m is compact.

At home, 2 techs, a 61 and SP1. Bought tired of bringing that out. a 57SL in a case and SL3.

reason i'm asking about FX on mics, and EQ on mains, etc is that I'd love to use this for my Duo gigs
i play keyboards, my buddy plays guitar,

i can always go into the RCA in's from my keyboards 1/4 stereo outs,
and guitar player can go into the 1/4 on front, i woudl think guitar would need a "hot" output as the 1/4" on 707m is probably not ready for guitar in

this way, on breaks i can DJ, use same mixer for both

when i'm not doing the band thing, i'm DJ'ing mobile parties

Read the manual - there's an internal chain diagram for you to check out.

The mic chain goes - trim -> low-cut/gate -> level -> 3 band EQ -> vocal fx -> pan

So only one effect applied from the fx list. Little disappointed there doesn't seem to be a compressor you can apply to the mic input, as that can be useful.

If you're running the front inputs as aux/line inputs tho, it bypasses all the effects.

i was wondering how long it would take for the "read the manual" lol
thanks dj_soo

1 FX per MIC, that has to be the same FX on Mic 2, ?? "read the manual"

they don't explicitly say, but i'm not going to carefully read the manual for you to find out :P

I'm assuming yes since you can assigning per channel effects just like you can assign independent output processing per output chain so it would make sense that you can assign specific effects for each mic input.

Honestly you could have read the entire manual yourself in the time it’s taken you post all these questions. Lol.

Put in some work man. C’mon.

hey i have an idea,

output JUST Mic 1, through the Booth Out,
then plug Booth Out to Mic in 2, and apply FX #2,
then you have 2 independent FX :-)
i bet that's not in the manual

lmao

Gio, have you read the manual already?

Trust this is NOT on my list. Even if I don't need it it's not something I'd have fun with either and I DEFINITELY would not look cool behind one. I have yet to see anyone with heart hands or cake behind one........ NOT ONE!!!


Musiclee I say get it right now!!!! Like I said I thought of you the second I saw this and if we are being honest I fully feel like this is the cause of your return to the forums lately so you MUST be excited about it enough to warrant the purchase!!

Nah but i will later or tomorrow. I was going through the very short RCF Evox J8 manual today. Speaking of, anyone know if I just have the volume set to max on those units or not?

and crazy enough , my daughters name is MIA, lol

Now THATS funny!! LOL

No such thing :)

how would you know what's in the works?
you work for Roland or have a NDA with them?

i think the 707m is just the beginning for Roland

Gio

I hope you called in sick to work today. :-)

Lmao I wish! Haha

Looks like it won’t coming in until tomorrow EOD. Things got delayed because my bank originally declined the purchases thinking it was fraud.

bummer, i guess you should be "sick" tomorrow then

Well, EOD I’ll prob be home already by then

you have your roadcase already? i think you said it was swan something

I ended up buying this www.zzounds.com

Didn't feel like buying a much bigger case with the 1U. Would've been convenient, but oh well.

COOL. I need at least a 1U,
maybe 2U if it’s not too much bigger

anyone know if there are any cases available NOW
with a 1U or 2U under?

There are for sure but they fit like an SX3, so the 707m would fit too... just that the case won’t be small.

i'm kinda picky,
don't want a generic case,
need one to fit like a glove,
nade for the actual 707m, or a unit same size
why have a case bigger than it needs to be? :-)

wishing you a day of fun today!!!
keep us posted Gio

Don't get me wrong, i agree. lol


Yeah I can't wait to go home haha

Just got the notification, everything got delivered! Gotta clear the desk when I get home!

I had a custom case made, but it didn't turn out. I'm with you though. I want it to fit exactly, not add foam, etc. Pro X has a case "in production" but they said they can't provide a release date at this time. Hopefully, it's not too long. nwww.proxdirect.com

Gio, where do you live exactly?

Brooklyn

No. I need your address so I can pickup and test your equipment!!!

I work in Manhattan and live in NJ

Lmao

I work in manhattan too actually- got fam in jersey.

So ima make a few videos coming soon.

Videos. Great. Please post and share. Thx

What happened with your case Mike? Did you actually get it delivered and it didn’t work out?

Is there currently a soft case that fits like a glove, made for 707m?

At times I may wanna take it out of hard case and do the soft case

Oh but that’s dangerous swapping cases right?
What if I forget the BRICK? Lol.

I bought an odyssey one.... fits fine to me.



That's a huge prob with the pioneer ones. bastards don't even sell the power adapter as an accessary. I think Roland does tho so i may just buy a spare. Keep one in the DJ backpack at all times.

I had a custom case made, but it didn't turn out. I'm with you though. I want it to fit exactly, not add foam, etc. Pro X has a case "in production" but they said they can't provide a release date at this time. Hopefully, it's not too long. nwww.proxdirect.com

What happened with your case Mike? Did you actually get it delivered and it didn’t work out?

Yeah, it works, but I don't like it. It's like a box (very square) no hole in laptop shelf for cables, just too tall.

just wish Roland woulda gone with standard cable,

maybe the 707m-PRO LOL

Hey Gio

You pull an all-nighter last night?

oooof, yeah... hurtin! I'm at work right now and i got a gig later tonight.

But at least when i get home i get to mess around with all the new gear. Haven't even touched the 707 yet other than removing it from the box.

www.dropbox.com

awesome Gio
i love new gear,
even though i haven't bought in a while
just house stuff :-(

<pt> Viva, Coimbra é muito fixe! Sou do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, mas estou a morar em Portugal há 4 anos! :D </pt>

Hey Lee, sorry for the late reply, couple of busy weeks.

As I'm not doing gigs anymore, I've decided to leave controllers and get back to turntables once again, and maybe purchasing a cheap $ 250 controller for the occasional party.

The Numark Scratch didn't work for me, I think it has an excellent value but I'm not fond of some of the design decisions. Since all DVS-ready mixers that provide extra Serato controls are above $ 1,000, the best value would be a controller with phono inputs.

I went for the 707m because:

1 - It's a Roland :D
2 - Stellar audio quality
2 - It's really compact, I don't have much space
3 - It supports DVS and supports FX for analog sources, so I can have some fun when playing regular vinyl
4 - It's portable enough to the point I don't need a cheap controller for occasional parties
5 - Its input and outputs will be handy in some other hobbies such as podcast, studio recording

I haven't been using it much, but as I've mentioned before, feels like when I had the VCI-300.

At that time I've had the original NS7, which I loved, but was a PITA carrying around for gigs, especially the ones that won't require any type of performance. So I've bought the VCI-300, and in a couple of months, I've become so used to it, that it became my main driver.

I'm still getting used to the layout, it's very clever. My only complaint is the proximity and similarity of the Shift and Sync buttons, I keep pressing Sync a lot, which I hate, but I'll get used in time.

Most of the time I'm using the turntables as decks 3 and 4, leaving the inside channels to the jog wheels, and it's perfect, feels like using a couple of SL1200s and two CDJ-100s sandwiched in between. Really nice!

Dudu

So you’re now using 707m?
Sound quality you say is great?
Better than other brands? Which have you used?
Rane, Numark, Denon, Pioneer?
I think I may have to buy this Roland 707m

Quando eu for aí,
Vais ter que comprar-me um fino. ;-)

in my experience, Roland makes the best sounding controllers on the market. I did an A/B between the 505 (which doesn't spec as good as the 707) and my Rane 62 and it was really close in terms of sound quality.

Dj_soo.

Thanks for confirming and your opinions!!!

So I used the 707m at mobile gig.

Disclaimer: I didn't get to mess around with it at all before the gig. Which is not wise and risky, but it is what it is.

Important things to know that's on the site and manual:
You have to be running at least Sierra aka 10.12 & be running the lastest version of serato, currently 2.2.2. If not, this will not even work. My unit came shipped with firmware/System Program (Ver.1.01)

To get started I did a factory reset on the unit itself, and that took like almost under a minute, if I recall correctly. I then installed the driver from the roland website, and then downloaded Serato DJ PRO 2.2.2. I did not install the newer System Program (Ver.1.02) but I'll probably do that now.

Things I wasn't too fond of:

Because of the tight/cramped nature of this controller, I found myself touching the jog wheel a few times by accident when I didn't mean to, and they're pretty sensitive.

The channel cue buttons feel really close to all the already tightly spaced EQ and Filters.

Lastly since this thing is all black you can hardly see anything on it. Having some sort of track indicator on the jog wheels would've been clutch. This is coming from me using an SR2 where I felt like everything was nicely spaced out and bright. I can use it without really looking at it. In dark settings you'll most likely need some sort of little LED lamp or something for the 707M

Now the good things:

Love the power safety thing. If you push the power button it does not just turn off. You'll get a prompt on the screen asking if you meant to power it off, and it defaults to no or cancel, so you have to turn the knob to yes and press enter. Great feature.

Sound. This thing sounds great. Coming from owning an SR2 this just sounds cleaner. Better bass. Now, I was using a pair of Evox J8s which I'm sure coupled togeter contributed to the crisp sound.

The ins/outs. I don't have to bring a mixer for mics that people aren't even gonna use. Love that there's FX that can be routed to the mic. As well as that Anti Feedback feature.

Jog wheels feel nice and smooth

Portable. Fits in a back pack. I doubt I'll ever use the hard road case now that I have a facade/table combo.


oh... last thing. Definitely buying a second power adapter for this thing. Would not wanna be caught somewhere far without it. Keep that joint it the DJ bag and case at all times.

So would you recommend it to the mobile DJ or should i just stick to my VCI-380? I'm trying to lighten my load too so if I don't need a mix board, that's 1 less thing to carry and less wires to mess with.

I would without a doubt choose the 707m over the VCI-380. It's just loaded with so many features.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, the little screen why display the bmp of each track, and up to 4 of them at once. I thought that was cool too. I have to dig through and see what else it displays.

The menu on this thing is crazy, you could change the pad brightness, sensitivity and all types of stuff. Just amazing!

Imagine if that Menu was just a tad bigger, maybe 2 rows, or Color LCD. How much more info it could display ;-)

Yeah, true... but most don't even have a display at all so i'll take it. It's already packed with so many things in sucha small format.

You pulling that trigger yet or nah? lol

Anyone compare the sound quality of the Roland DJ505 to the 707M?

I think it’s mentioned in one of the videos. I think one of the reps mention the 808 and 505. Could be wrong

i've been thinking about a case for the 707m,
i think instead of having a "boxy" case with 2U under..
i would love a WIDE case,
i was thinking 19" wide for 707m, plus another 1/2 rack next to it (another 8")
so 27" minimum interior plus some space on sides, and in between

this case would be more like a "keyboard" case
707m i could keep on left and wireless receivers on right, with power strip, (or vice-versa)
on right i would add a cover that i could lift,
basically the 1/2 space units would be inside, under the "lid"
on top of the lid i can put my ipad, or xtra computer etc.

basically i would take a stock case for a "wide" controller, or CDJ, and modify it a bit
thoughts? yes i have too much time on my hands, well not really lol

first, you have to buy the 707m!!!!

I just purchased the Roland 707M. I own a Roland DJ 505 and a Pioneer DDJ-SR for use with Serato as well. So I will be comparing them. I did the unboxing...
The 707M is smaller than both the SR and 505, which i appreciate. I read some people said it felt cramped. I disagree. I feel it has no wasted space. It's an efficient layout.
The construction of the 707M is better that the 505. The 505 had a plasticy/toyish feel. The 707M feels denser and stronger. The metal face plate of the mixer is nice. Also the 707m knobs have less wiggle and feel sturdier that the 505.
This is the first controller I've owned that has two USB connectors on the back. I love the idea of having the ability to have 2 computers or devices plugged in at once and being able to switch between them. This is great for a backup system. I will also be taking advantage of the 2 XLR microphone inputs. This is the first controller I've owned that has a microphone EQ and effects. This means I can use it for the occasional karaoke gig instead of bringing a separate mixer with me. So this controller will lighten my load in at gigs.
I'll report back more thoughts once I actually use the controller in a live club environment this weekend.

Midge. You make an excellent point. LOL

As far as the knobs go, well they’re metal pots on the 707m so that makes sense, and the mixer part as well is metal.

I like it for the same reasons too regarding not having to bring a separate mixer.

Anyone know if you can apply EQ to the front inputs via lcd/menu ?? Or should I read the manual LOL

:)

Gio, DJlazaru, Dudu, Mike.
I think only 4 people here have one?
EQ on front inputs? 1/4”, 1/8”

Lmao this

rtfm

LOL, that should be added to the dictionary!!!

You should be an expert on the 707m by now with all those questions.

The headphone section like all new mixers/controllers has 1/4 and 1/8”

The aux is 1/8” stereo. or 2x 1/4” mono jacks. That those can be used for a mic each.

thanks Gio, i was asking if those AUX have internal EQ via menu/lcd, as has the main outs
my next questions is whether the 2- 1/4" AUX can be used as stereo INS

i know, i know, rtfm
i will , i promise

Haha yeah I’m not sure actually, it might. Haven’t used it since Saturday. Works been kickin my ass. My bar gigs I use turntables. Maybe this weekend I can get a bit more familiar.

just read the manual,

so yes, to STEREO input on AUX,
it seems you cannot use both the 1/4" and 1/8" at same time?
the manual is not clear on this,
if YES, then the LEVEL knob controls both the 1/8" and 1/4"? that sux
if only one, which overrides which if all plugged in?

+1!!

oh Chino has one too!! awesome

LOL, not yet but that is def one of the main reasons I'm considering buying one. I'm just waiting closer to end of Oct. to see if anything else will be announced. You never know but MAYBE Roland will announce something else NEW on the way... ; )

@musiclee... Im waiting for YOU to buy it & post a review!!

it's literally only 20 pages

ye, that's the problem it's only 20 pages, and doesn't really go in-depth
and answer all my questions!!

DJ Chino, i too wonder if they will announce another one soon :-)

the 202 and 505 dropped at the same time. My gut feeling is another one will not be coming for a while...

I just cant see they would release something else within months of this and upset the customer that purchased the 707m

If they are at different price points
It probably would not upset those with 707m too much
But then again, maybe it would

If we go by the idea of waiting for the next or better thing then what’s the point? There’s always something coming out technically. Consumerism is crazy lol

iPhone 11 just came out... “yeah but 12 is gonna come out next year”... this’ll be by like people who just text and take bad photos, and where either model wouldn’t make a difference. Cuz they all have the same basic function these people are using them for.

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that’s anyone in here, but that’s consumerism.

The 57SL held me down for so many years because it did exactly what I needed it to do and more. It wasn’t until waaaaaaay later I upgraded and even when I did I felt like I was missing things from the old model.

I dunno... long rant lol my bad

No point waiting for mystery products to get released. Buy the gear that fits your needs today and can start earning you money. If a newer exciting product comes out that you must get, then sell the older gear and use that money towards the new gear.
Example: I bought the Roland DJ-505 when I needed a new controller several months ago. It was just okay, but didn't excite me in any way. So I will be selling it this week to help offset the cost of the newer Roland DJ 707M, which I'm hoping will meet my needs perfectly. I'll find out over the next few weeks.

Let me know how it fits your video setup. I am considering getting one myself by the end of the year.

I'll post an update in this thread next week after i use it for a video dance party this weekend.

This is exactly what I was getting at. 100% agree.

The 707m is very niche, to release another something similar so quickly I dont think would happen.

They might follow up with a product focus towards scratch DJ's or another demographic, but I would be shocked if the market needed another m style product so soon.

Just buy one already mate ;)

There are a lot more beginners and wannabe headliners who think buying a DDJ 1000SRT is going to get them ready for their dreams of headlining a festival mainstage on a CDJ nxs2 setup than working mobile DJs who are looking for a functional and practical unit like the 707M,

If they were going to announce another similar product, they would probably have done it simultaneously rather than release the 707 and then release another product 2 months later.

I think Roland is testing the market with the 707M. Maybe a year or more from now they may release a 707M Mark II to maybe even an 808M.
I can tell you they have a winner on their hands with the 707M. I've only been messing around with it at home, but it's very impressive with features, sound quality, and construction. It's a thoughtful controller.

It seems like Roland just built a few of these to “feel the market”?

And now that they have a few additional orders in, they know the demand?

I would think getting just a “few hundred” built would be a lot costlier than a “few thousand” ???

Nobody has them in stock and
only a few places had them to begin with.

They better get on it cause I'm waiting to buy one!

I was waiting too and zzounds got it so I went that route. Just sayin

Zzounds is out of them
Gio must have bought the last one

Maybe Roland’s second batch will have a REAL power supply!!! Lol

power brick = toyish.

Most controllers fail epically at this. Especially the ones that can’t run on USB as a backup. The 707M could have been in a upper tier with the 808 and NS7 but instead it’s just a feature rich toy quality device. Metal bodies and posts aren’t exciting they are the bare minimum for gear.

The most exciting thing about the 707m is that companies are finally realizing that there is a market for PROFESSIONAL mobile DJs who are creative and the wanna be festival DJs & Qberts of the world are not the only people out there.

Maybe the pros are a niche group but they will pay top $ for quality.

I bought a second brick lol.

The only thing I imagine that would work would be an internal power supply, but this thing is already small, and I’m sure cramped inside. Otherwise, I can’t imagine all of that being able to power through usb?

Anyway, I’m happy with it. It does way more that my SR2 could so that’s a plus. Are there things that could be better? Of course there is. But it is a step in the right direction and I’m glad Roland took the step.

Sweetwater and Sam Ash has em now.

My local GC had them on the floor, finally got to touch one... for it's footprint I am really impressed at the options.

I have a friend who was going to DJ with me and now he's bailing. I had just gotten a second DJ-707m for him to use since I love mine. So, now I have a second unit I don't need. I'm going to throw it on eBay tomorrow, but before I do, I thought I'd reach out here to see if anyone here might want to buy it. Since it's open box, I'd sell at a discount. I'm thinking somewhere between $650 and $700 (depending on where I'd have to ship it). If anyone's interested, let me know.

Note: It's in perfect condition. The tabs on the box are flimsy but I have the original box, power brick, manual, USB cable... everything that comes with it new. Nothing wrong at all, like new.

If you just bought it, why not just return it and get your full refund? Most places do 30-45 day returns anyway.

Gio... I didn't even think of that. I bought it from Zzounds and they have a 45-day return policy. I will do that!

Yup they do! That’s the same place I bought mine from. I’m actually returning the soft case because the official Roland soft case for the 202 works for it too, and it has a zip pouch so way more functional than the odyssey one.

Gio. You messed up my sale/transaction with Mike,
I’m in NJ/NY. Lol

Lmfao damn my bad. Did i block that? DM him, might be easier to just cop than have him do the return.

Just kiddin, no worries

I mean it’s clear you don’t reaaaaaaally wanna buy the 707m though lol

You keep stalling

Gear phobia, or commitment phobia

I look at things 2 ways, either you need it and it’ll help with your workflow, or you just don’t need it lol.

I personally had to rent out some gear the other, and the dj’s controller has 1 mic channel, and he had a separate mixer. Had to bring a bunch of extra cables to hook everything up. All I could think of is man, if there were just 2-3 mic channels on that controller there’d be no need for the mixer and extra cables. Just plug the mic in.

Anyway, made me think about the 707m. Before that I was gonna scoop an SX3. The less stuff I have to carry or lug around, the better.

here's a case for good protection, and light
if you don't mind plugging/unplugging everything
seems like it would fit, costs $109

www.magma-bags.de

That's a nice one. looks super lite weight

I ended up buying the 202 bag though. I already have a hard case. I Think mine is magma.
www.guitarcenter.com

this one is made for 707m,

www.magma-bags.de

Gio, return it, maybe it's under 45 days!! LMFAO

if i get 707m, i may get this case, and modify it,
i'll have 1U under, and then still have 1/2 rack on side of 707m, (putting 707m over to one side)
and i'll have enough surface area on sliding shelf for 2 laptops, or 1 laptop + ipad+ iphone :-)
i'll have to measure it all to make sure

all that around $250, not too shaby

www.proxdirect.com

hahaha

that's funny you say that because I'm returning the odyssey softcase because the roland one is more functional. Has a zip pouch. can get away with putting the usb cables, power brick and maybe even a laptop in one back. That's the problem i have with other soft cases, there's only a slot for the controller only.


I used to hate carrying the SR2 in a case and then bringing a bag just for my laptop and power adapters, just seemed to make more sense to have everything together.

OMG!!! I Did It ;-0

No way! Don’t believe ya hahaha

You read the manual?

Bahaha!

Ha. Don’t think I’ll need a manual
I own many Roland products
And own pretty much all brands of mixers (analog and digital)

Of course there will be things I will complain about
Like lack of independent volume on front inputs
3 inputs with 1 knob. Really Clever, lol


Where’s deejdave? Lol

I’ll complain it’s not standard 19” rackmountable.
Or if it is. It doesn’t come with rack ears.
What else.? That I can’t apply 2 simultaneous FX per mic channel

The Toyish Power Supply perhaps...

Maybe I can use my baby rocking chair
power adapter as a backup??

Where did you end up buying it from?

Gio. I assume your biggest complaint on the 707m are the “hot” meters/pc input (in the RED)???

That would be the biggest, but I feel like that could easily be fixed or changed in a firmware update.

Would been nice to have an LED ring around the platter since this while thing is black. Could barely see any functions in the dark. Lastly, Wish the Serato FX had the 3 individual knobs as opposed to 1 for all 3.

be grateful it has 1, the Pioneer 1000SRT has ZERO SDJ FX control/knobs

and i should be grateful the 707m has 1 FX on mic
"but I feel like that could easily be fixed or changed in a firmware update." ;-)

Oh trust me, that's probably my biggest issue with the 1000SRT... i actually like all the serato FX and features mirrored on the controller. I don't care for having the usual pioneer CDJ/Mixer layout. I see it enough as it is in most club/bar settings.

don't get me wrong, the 1000SRT looks cool as hell, nicer than Roland but...
it's the little things that count!!!

Yeah it ain’t for me. When I’m at a bar I used turntables and cdjs. On some mobile event, I try to carry as little as possible.

Hi everyone, thanks for all the additional info on the DJ 707m so far, it's been really helpful given it's early days for this hardware.

TLDR: Who can share their experience with the Roland DJ controller midi out for use with hardware instruments?

I have been considering getting this controller since I see the connectivity and sound processing in a compact format make it suitable to run a Serato DJ and Hardware Instrument(s) hybrid act. I'm looking to sync a groovebox (Synthstrom Deluge) and perhaps more via midi out (not sure which midi features/commands other than clock are available) and then get the audio back in via stereo 2x TRS into the front Aux.

I've never owned a Roland DJ controller before so the implementation of the Serato to Midi clock and command output is a bit of a mystery. I saw a video where I believe the 202 achieves midi clock out via a sync button that controls/syncs the internal drum machine to a Serato track, noting that Serato does not output Midi clock as such, so I presume the 707m uses the channel 3 bpm and/or sync button?

Sidenote here, are the bpm displayed on the mixer the Serato values or does the mixer recognise bpm separately? How does this integrate with the midi clock out,e.g. which is the master?

I have also heard that the midi out synchronization with Serato drifts out of time after a minute or two so despite using sync, making continuous Serato to Hardware syncronisation unreliable and needing frequent platter movement/nudging to keep it together.

I also have a choice to go from Serato directly into a TR8S via TR sync and go midi out from there. In that case I would only want a controller that has decent stereo 2x TRS in, the midi out and the drum machine on the controller become obsolete. Any suggestions on a Serato controller that could do that job?

Thanks for reading and sharing your experience 😊

great question, Read the manual!!!, just kidding, lol
i don't think the manual would have this info :-)

I rtfm and I still have these questions ;-)

see, that's what I'm talking about,
people tell me to RTFM, cuz i ask so many questions
and i know just as much before and after reading it, LOL

Gio,

i got an amazing deal on my 707m
nobody could beat it, not even zzounds, (1st time they let me down)
$809 plus tax, free shipping
that's almost $200 off

Yeah the BPMs are displayed on the screen for all 4 channels/tracks on

Nice!

I definitely did not get that deal but I’m okay with that cuz I got a deal on the other stuff I ordered.

I have a hybrid setup using the Roland DJ-808 with the Pioneer DJS-1000 sampler. I go directly out via MIDI from the DJ-808 to the DJS-1000. BPM is directly controlled by the DJ-808 which is the master. I have not noticed any drift issues. Roland is known for their low latency platters, great sound quality & excellent MIDI functionality.

How do you like the Deluge? Is it user friendly?

MK8 wants to know if the BPM displayed on Roland is "extracted" from SDJ,
or from Roland hardware calculating it,
is Roland just displaying what's on SDJ screen basically!!??

Love the Deluge, so much amazing stuff in a little box and can run off batteries, my studio away from home, almost a DAW replacement. Shortcuts are printed on the face and it has a big future, soonto be a USB host as well. Can't speak more highly, it is a lot of fun.

Regarding the DJ 808, how does it act as the master clock in conjunction with Serato dj? I would have thought Serato DJ would always lead. I wonder how they implemented it on the 707m without the step sequencer.

Thanks for the feedback on drifting out of time, sounds like it was just a rumor or possibly poor beatgridding.

That's a good question, i'm guessing the calculation comes from what SDJ says the bmp is since you're using SDJ. Outside of that I would imagine Roland hardware makes it's own calculation if you're doing midi out and using it as a mixer only. But i dunno if that even works like that.

I think roland is just displaying what's on SDJ. I could be wrong though.

hey Gio, did you RTFM?

fuck that manual! lol

nah man, been reading other manuals. got too many things going on at once. I'm messing, i briefly went through the manual but i dunno if it has that sorta info in there, unless i just missed that.

anyone know if there are rack ears for this thing?
maybe i can use my existing case for my 707m

The 707M gets the BPM directly from Serato software.

Thank you 😊

Any idea which is passed on to the midi out clock? What channel is used/synced to generate the midi clock?

would love to know how many Serato Users here already have the 707m
think it's a mere half dozen maybe?

I haven't used the midi out so not sure what info would get passed, but it would make sense to send the BPM of the master deck.

Midi out can certainly be very useful
for those who are knowledges with it
and can take advantage of it!!!

How can I get the same deal? Looking to purchase it now if possible.

Name drop Lee lmao

Ollieboy

Unfortunately, you can’t get that deal any longer
It was a 19% off anniversary promo which ended in September,

Idjnow had or has 15% but not valid on Roland stuff
Zzounds wouldn’t match as you had to login to get price. And zzounds says it needs to clearly display price. Whatever!!

Samash.com may be your best bet.
They were willing to give a price cut but not 19%

Blah blah pssl. Lmfao

☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

i actually ordered it at 11:59pm, Sept. 30 :-) pssl

I tried to order it back in Sept but kept getting a message saying the EST1976 promo wasn't valid for that purchase. Did you call in the order? Dang WTH???!!

you had to LOG IN, it specifically said that (so make an account)
after you logged in, all good

you may be able to use a 15% code,
sometimes you get a pop-up asking you to sign into newsletter, etc.
give it a shot after you clear your cookies, try as new browser etc...

let us know

Ollieboy. You new here ?
You mobile DJ? Where u from
Why the 707m?

Cali. I do mobile . Been on this board for years.

I just got Roland dj 707 last night..so far so good. Crossfader is pretty good. Jog wheels will do the job, I was able to do basic scratches beat juggling and dropping songs with a baby scratch right on beat. Will try sound quality today with my qsc PA system. By the way I have a pioneer s9 and bought the rane 72 but returned it so I will be able to know if this controller sounds good.
The layout is perfect for its size and it does feel quality. I will also test the mics in a few days with shure and sennheiser systems.

I also have a QSC Pa. KW181 basses. And 12” tops.
Would you say sound of 72 is/was better than S9??

If i still dj’ed at home much I would def have a 72. My tables and mixer collect dust.