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New JBL line of powered speakers announced.

Rebelguy 4:47 PM - 22 January, 2015
They are brining out the big guns with these. I'm curious about the pricing. Im thinking it's definitely going to be way more than the ETX or KW lines.

m.livedesignonline.com
DJFree 5:21 PM - 22 January, 2015
Looks good. I just purchased my second PRX 718XLF recently though :(
Joee 8:58 PM - 22 January, 2015
powered srx

these are looking pretty nice, i expect they will do well with these


could they be the ev etx killer?
desmorider 9:27 PM - 22 January, 2015
samash.com has prices listed and pictures. Says they will be available 6/1/15
Probably suggested retail prices posted.

single 12-$1299
single 15-$1399
single 18-$1599
desmorider 9:29 PM - 22 January, 2015
3 inch compression driver voice coil. Nice pricing
DJ GaFFle 9:41 PM - 22 January, 2015
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these are looking pretty nice, i expect they will do well with these


could they be the ev etx killer?

They may destroy them with these. They'll get a TON of ProAudio guys to jump ship to the powered speaker realm because they already loved the SRX700 line so much! JBL messed up a little with the STX800 series (ie: line name change, heavier, no more neodymium, new grills) and I believe a lot of JBL guys just held on to their SRX700 series stuff rather than lateral/side step to the STX. If these have the same drivers as the STX, they'll be a winner for sure provided the amp/DSP quality and dependability is there. Just my opinion.
DJ GaFFle 9:45 PM - 22 January, 2015
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Looks good. I just purchased my second PRX 718XLF recently though :(

Ebay or Craigslist 'em rápidamente!
desmorider 9:48 PM - 22 January, 2015
Driver model numbers are listed at least for the subwoofer. I take it with a grain of salt, but the spl numbers are crazy.

135db-single 18
136db-single 12
137db-single 15
DJFree 9:48 PM - 22 January, 2015
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Looks good. I just purchased my second PRX 718XLF recently though :(

Ebay or Craigslist 'em rápidamente!


I just seen your comment and I'm already thinking of a master plan lol...I have a few months to operate.
Joee 9:56 PM - 22 January, 2015
this thing is only 30lbs more than the etx 18" & its a dual 18"

it just killed the etx18sp considering there around the same price point
www.jblpro.com
DJ GaFFle 9:56 PM - 22 January, 2015
Oh my... jblpro.com

Lots of weight but it is pole mountable. These may be what I need to hang with my 4 TH-118 subs all while delivering the best sound quality possible with a 3-way design. I was gonna bust y'all ass with some RCF-TT2A's but their price was gonna bust mine. These SRX835's seem way more feasible.

(nm/nh) <== I gave this game up but this post was just asking to be clowned. :-)
DJ GaFFle 9:58 PM - 22 January, 2015
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this thing is only 30lbs more than the etx 18" & its a dual 18"

it just killed the etx18sp considering there around the same price point
www.jblpro.com

JohnnyM better put these on his wish list. This is almost a no brainer to me. Again, provided their amp/DSP quality is there, these will win BIG!
desmorider 10:09 PM - 22 January, 2015
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this thing is only 30lbs more than the etx 18" & its a dual 18"



it just killed the etx18sp considering there around the same price point

www.jblpro.com



Beast-Mode. They know how to get it done. Hopefully they didn't hold back any.
Joee 10:16 PM - 22 January, 2015
it weighs just about the same as the yorkvile ls801p


i think jbl did there thing here


FYI….ev came out with a new line also---> serato.com
SELECT 10:34 PM - 22 January, 2015
WOW. Ive been waiting for JBL to step it up. These look amazing!!!!
desmorider 2:29 AM - 23 January, 2015
Duck down and grab your vest. JBL is licking off shots.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 10:58 PM - 23 January, 2015
On another note...nothing from QSC huh?
Joee 11:00 PM - 23 January, 2015
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On another note...nothing from QSC huh?

+1 they need to update there active speaker line
rayjthedj 11:23 PM - 23 January, 2015
I am surprised QSC is setting back and letting market share go away in leaps and bounds. They actually brought the best powered speaker products to the market years ahead of everyone else, in the mid-level gear market, they must have something really killer going on.

JBL makes some great speakers, I have many sets of them in my home. The new series really looks good and if they use neo magnets to get the weight down, with the same or better price and performance, they will hurt EV and Yamaha's market share.

I read somewhere the other day, one of the Pro Audio Forum magazines, I think, where EV sold more speakers last year than anyone else in the world.

Someone is making a lot of money.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:09 AM - 24 January, 2015
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I am surprised QSC is setting back and letting market share go away in leaps and bounds. They actually brought the best powered speaker products to the market years ahead of everyone else, in the mid-level gear market, they must have something really killer going on.

JBL makes some great speakers, I have many sets of them in my home. The new series really looks good and if they use neo magnets to get the weight down, with the same or better price and performance, they will hurt EV and Yamaha's market share.

I read somewhere the other day, one of the Pro Audio Forum magazines, I think, where EV sold more speakers last year than anyone else in the world.

Someone is making a lot of money.


EV did the smart thing and brought different levels to their game. Now watch everyone else follow suit.
Rebelguy 1:04 AM - 24 January, 2015
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JBL makes some great speakers, I have many sets of them in my home. The new series really looks good and if they use neo magnets to get the weight down, with the same or better price and performance, they will hurt EV and Yamaha's market share.


They are using Ferrite magnets. They are not Neo. They are supposed to be a step above the PRX line in the grand scheme of things.
SG SOUNDS 1:27 AM - 24 January, 2015
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Oh my... jblpro.com

Lots of weight but it is pole mountable. These may be what I need to hang with my 4 TH-118 subs all while delivering the best sound quality possible with a 3-way design. I was gonna bust y'all ass with some RCF-TT2A's but their price was gonna bust mine. These SRX835's seem way more feasible.

(nm/nh) <== I gave this game up but this post was just asking to be clowned. :-)


You ever looked a the ETX 3WAY boxes....Im sure they would keep up with your TH-118 subs and they sound crisp clear and clean at loud volumes..
Joee 1:44 AM - 24 January, 2015
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JBL makes some great speakers, I have many sets of them in my home. The new series really looks good and if they use neo magnets to get the weight down, with the same or better price and performance, they will hurt EV and Yamaha's market share.


They are using Ferrite magnets. They are not Neo. They are supposed to be a step above the PRX line in the grand scheme of things.

yesterday the document showed a 3"compression driver next to the speaker and said they were using neo………now no compression driver and ferrite, what gives
Joee 1:46 AM - 24 January, 2015
found it!

" JBL’s patented Differential Drive® Technology ferrite drivers incorporate 3" voice coils with lower mass ferrite magnets for reduced weight, increased power handling, exceptionally low distortion and extended low frequency response. JBL’s 2432H is the only neodymium 3" "
Rebelguy 1:52 AM - 24 January, 2015
So Ferrite then right?
Joee 2:03 AM - 24 January, 2015
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So Ferrite then right?

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JBL’s 2432H is the only neodymium 3

that comes from the documentation on the data sheet
Rebelguy 3:14 AM - 24 January, 2015
So basically we are looking at a Neo high frequency driver and a Ferrite drivers on the woofers.

So far the weight specs I have seen are...

SRX812P 12" 2-way: 58lbs.
SRX815P 15" 2-way: 63lbs,
SRX835P 15" 3-way: 85lbs.
SRX818P 18" Sub: 87lbs.
SRX828P Dual 18" Sub: 145lbs.
DJ GaFFle 1:42 PM - 24 January, 2015
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PRX 718XLF

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Oh my... jblpro.com

Lots of weight but it is pole mountable. These may be what I need to hang with my 4 TH-118 subs all while delivering the best sound quality possible with a 3-way design. I was gonna bust y'all ass with some RCF-TT2A's but their price was gonna bust mine. These SRX835's seem way more feasible.

(nm/nh) <== I gave this game up but this post was just asking to be clowned. :-)


You ever looked a the ETX 3WAY boxes....Im sure they would keep up with your TH-118 subs and they sound crisp clear and clean at loud volumes..

I'm sure they'd sound great as well but I've never been a fan of EV putting those tiny 1.25" high compression in their ETX line. There's more to a driver than just size but larger high-compression drivers are usually attributed to more clarity, vocal loudness and focus.
SG SOUNDS 2:04 PM - 24 January, 2015
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PRX 718XLF

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Oh my... jblpro.com

Lots of weight but it is pole mountable. These may be what I need to hang with my 4 TH-118 subs all while delivering the best sound quality possible with a 3-way design. I was gonna bust y'all ass with some RCF-TT2A's but their price was gonna bust mine. These SRX835's seem way more feasible.


I was concerned too until I heard them..They sure dont sound like its a 1.25 coil in there more like a "4 inch...but its the EV processing that got it sounding like that..The vocals on the ETX are as clear as daylight....But I will still give the jbl's a peep when they come out..


(nm/nh) <== I gave this game up but this post was just asking to be clowned. :-)


You ever looked a the ETX 3WAY boxes....Im sure they would keep up with your TH-118 subs and they sound crisp clear and clean at loud volumes..

I'm sure they'd sound great as well but I've never been a fan of EV putting those tiny 1.25" high compression in their ETX line. There's more to a driver than just size but larger high-compression drivers are usually attributed to more clarity, vocal loudness and focus.
rayjthedj 3:48 PM - 24 January, 2015
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PRX 718XLF

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Oh my... jblpro.com

Lots of weight but it is pole mountable. These may be what I need to hang with my 4 TH-118 subs all while delivering the best sound quality possible with a 3-way design. I was gonna bust y'all ass with some RCF-TT2A's but their price was gonna bust mine. These SRX835's seem way more feasible.

(nm/nh) <== I gave this game up but this post was just asking to be clowned. :-)


You ever looked a the ETX 3WAY boxes....Im sure they would keep up with your TH-118 subs and they sound crisp clear and clean at loud volumes..

I'm sure they'd sound great as well but I've never been a fan of EV putting those tiny 1.25" high compression in their ETX line. There's more to a driver than just size but larger high-compression drivers are usually attributed to more clarity, vocal loudness and focus.


In a two way box I agree 100%, but this cabinet has a mid-range driver. In the two way box you can get the crossover to the horn down in the 500-800 hz range if you use a larger driver with larger voice coil, at the slight trade off of loss of clarity in the very top of the KHZ range. Lets face it, when you start putting out frequencies above 12khz it takes extremely fast movement of the diaphragm.

I love the sound of the ETX35P and if I did events with six to eight 18" subs or a few of Gaffles high end subs, I would invest in them. I do one or two gigs a year in a convention center or larger gym and the volume requirements are easily met by my four ETX15SP subs clusters and a pair of my ETX12P tops spread 30' plus feet.
rayjthedj 9:15 PM - 24 January, 2015
Not unless the subs are more than a couple of feet in front of the tops. I try and keep them on the same wall, with the drivers on the same center line.

If I can I always set up on a wall adjacent to my speakers, it gives me better volume control and makes it easier to adjust the tonal quality. I keep my EQ flat most of the time and adjust the total db output on my tops and subs to get the best sound. I never boost any EQ, I only pull out EQ.

With that said, I am a true variety DJ, I play every age group, all genres and music from the mid 1950's to current (as long as it is clean). I often have to remove a little bass when transitioning between the genres, for example on most country, I roll out about 4 db of bass on my mixer.
rayjthedj 9:28 PM - 24 January, 2015
If it is a wide venue then I line them up with a fingers width between them, if it is a narrow long venue (in direction of through) I make two stacks of two, with a fingers width between them.

I never go wider than four, as you will end up having to start adding some delay to the outer subs or your bass lob will get messed up.

Bass can get really hard to work with, that is why I never mix subs and I stopped running tops on poles over subs unless I can keep them less than four feet apart or about forty feet apart.

My sound made its biggest improvement once I stopped putting the tops on poles over the subs.
pdidy 9:34 PM - 24 January, 2015
Oh shit, oh shit ,oh shit.....www.jblpro.com
Joee 9:39 PM - 24 January, 2015
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Oh shit, oh shit ,oh shit.....www.jblpro.com

giphy.com
DJ Val-BKNY11203 9:39 PM - 24 January, 2015
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Oh shit, oh shit ,oh shit.....www.jblpro.com


You see what some competition can do for you?
Joee 9:40 PM - 24 January, 2015
wait did you just join in on this discussion? if so disregard the last message……lol
pdidy 9:53 PM - 24 January, 2015
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wait did you just join in on this discussion? if so disregard the last message……lol

yes, I'm just finding out this new JBL is of the SRX series which just happens to be a respected choice of many pro-sound provider companies.

So if JBL did not figure out a way to FUCK THIS UP, this is a big mf'in deal.
Joee 10:13 PM - 24 January, 2015
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So if JBL did not figure out a way to FUCK THIS UP, this is a big mf'in deal.

but you don't need any of them as you already have powered what was jbl's powered srx the vrx at least i think


now the built in lcd & dsp is a nice feature
pdidy 10:26 PM - 24 January, 2015
Yes, A powered SRX sub is equal to my VRX subs but cheaper and no unnecessary flyware.

Jbl just reduced the price of entry to pro level gear while simplifying it to the point that even a dj with no pro sound training can use it quite easily.
Joee 10:40 PM - 24 January, 2015
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Yes, A powered SRX sub is equal to my VRX subs but cheaper and no unnecessary flyware.

Jbl just reduced the price of entry to pro level gear while simplifying it to the point that even a dj with no pro sound training can use it quite easily.

you do have a point

two of these
www.jblpro.com

& two of these make a killer system
www.jblpro.com
pdidy 11:18 PM - 24 January, 2015
Then again the SRX amp is a lil weaker and I'm not sure if the same woofer in the vrx is used.
DJ GaFFle 3:55 AM - 25 January, 2015
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Then again the SRX amp is a lil weaker and I'm not sure if the same woofer in the vrx is used.

And I'm not sure if they're the same drivers used in the STX line. The passive STX stuff is still more expensive than this new SRX powered line. There must be serious difference in driver quality; I'll reserve judgement until I can hear them. I'll take my ZXA5's to GC to see how the comparable SRX815 compares when they land 'em.
pdidy 5:34 AM - 25 January, 2015
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Then again the SRX amp is a lil weaker and I'm not sure if the same woofer in the vrx is used.

And I'm not sure if they're the same drivers used in the STX line. The passive STX stuff is still more expensive than this new SRX powered line. There must be serious difference in driver quality; I'll reserve judgement until I can hear them. I'll take my ZXA5's to GC to see how the comparable SRX815 compares when they land 'em.

exacty, and considering the amp of the SRX 818sp sub is 1000watts it would be safe to assume the woofer is 500watts as aposed to the previous srx718 subs 800watt woofer.

Therefore the sub does not appear to be on the same level as previous versions but still inline with other subs at its price point....but the processing and remote features are killing everything out there in this price range.
DJ GaFFle 2:02 PM - 25 January, 2015
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Then again the SRX amp is a lil weaker and I'm not sure if the same woofer in the vrx is used.

And I'm not sure if they're the same drivers used in the STX line. The passive STX stuff is still more expensive than this new SRX powered line. There must be serious difference in driver quality; I'll reserve judgement until I can hear them. I'll take my ZXA5's to GC to see how the comparable SRX815 compares when they land 'em.

exacty, and considering the amp of the SRX 818sp sub is 1000watts it would be safe to assume the woofer is 500watts as aposed to the previous srx718 subs 800watt woofer.

Therefore the sub does not appear to be on the same level as previous versions but still inline with other subs at its price point....but the processing and remote features are killing everything out there in this price range.

One of the things to verify would be the efficiency of the SRX800 drivers opposed to the SRX700 drivers. The 700 drivers were terribly inefficient and required a TON of power to get loud. If these are more efficient yet have the same or better 'other' specs, they'd be a step up and wouldn't require so much amp power to make them sing.
Joee 2:04 PM - 25 January, 2015
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One of the things to verify would be the efficiency

i always hated this about jbl, it's one of the reason i loved ev's very efficient drivers
DJSCIASCIA 2:30 PM - 25 January, 2015
What I don't understand is how the 12" cab has 2k watts of power and a 18" sub only has 1k.
Joee 3:32 PM - 25 January, 2015
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12" cab has 2k watts of power and a 18" sub only has 1k.

i amp per driver 12" cab has 2 drivers 18" sub has one
pdidy 8:48 PM - 25 January, 2015
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Then again the SRX amp is a lil weaker and I'm not sure if the same woofer in the vrx is used.

And I'm not sure if they're the same drivers used in the STX line. The passive STX stuff is still more expensive than this new SRX powered line. There must be serious difference in driver quality; I'll reserve judgement until I can hear them. I'll take my ZXA5's to GC to see how the comparable SRX815 compares when they land 'em.

exacty, and considering the amp of the SRX 818sp sub is 1000watts it would be safe to assume the woofer is 500watts as aposed to the previous srx718 subs 800watt woofer.

Therefore the sub does not appear to be on the same level as previous versions but still inline with other subs at its price point....but the processing and remote features are killing everything out there in this price range.

One of the things to verify would be the efficiency of the SRX800 drivers opposed to the SRX700 drivers. The 700 drivers were terribly inefficient and required a TON of power to get loud. If these are more efficient yet have the same or better 'other' specs, they'd be a step up and wouldn't require so much amp power to make them sing.


Right and had they created this more efficient woofer theres no way they would have left it completely out of the marketing plans ?
pdidy 10:24 PM - 25 January, 2015
So my "theory" is JBL is a smart company so they left all mention of the type of woofer used in the srx818sp out of all documentation on purpose because there was no advancement.

This then allows for some less experienced users to "assume" they are getting equal quality to the previous srx700 series that many pro-sound companies use.
pdidy 11:03 PM - 25 January, 2015
Now the Hi freq driver in the SRX812, 815, 835 tops are a different story, the JBL 2432H Neodymium HF driver is found on the new STX812M @ $1,199.00, STX815M @ $1,499.00 and the STX835 @ $2,599.00.

So being that the STX Is the update to the SRX, these top are looking like powered STX boxes which is Very Nice.....
djbigboy 6:12 PM - 26 January, 2015
Got to hear them in the JBL booth...sweet but expensive....
DJ GaFFle 8:50 PM - 26 January, 2015
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Got to hear them in the JBL booth...sweet but expensive....

Not really. For the Alto, Samson, and Harbinger crew, yes but to guys who target really good quality speakers, they're surprisingly affordable.
DJ Nightmare Productions 9:05 PM - 26 January, 2015
These are not equal to the STX line.. im sticking with the STX on this one.. powered 2000 watt amp on a double 18 im running 4k into a STX 828S these seem to be positioned below the STX line in my opinion
DJ GaFFle 9:19 PM - 26 January, 2015
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These are not equal to the STX line.. im sticking with the STX on this one.. powered 2000 watt amp on a double 18 im running 4k into a STX 828S these seem to be positioned below the STX line in my opinion

You're probably right but it's much less expensive. The STX has different designs. Case in point, the SRX835. The STX835 has horn-load lows and mids whereas the SRX835 does not.

Question though... does the SRX828 have the same exact drivers as the STX828? If not, what is the efficiency of the STX's vs. the SRX's? If the SRX's are more efficient, it would take less power to get them just as loud, thus, no need for 4k of wattage to make them sing. FYI, the SRX's and STX's are notorious for having inefficient drivers. That's why they require so much power to really get them going.
SELECT 9:20 PM - 26 January, 2015
We should not be comparing them to passive speakers. Those require different amps, dsp, etc.

Now are these going to be better/louder/stronger than what every mobile DJ is using now. With the specs given I would think so. No one else is using a driver that large in that price range for powered speakers.
DJ GaFFle 9:25 PM - 26 January, 2015
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We should not be comparing them to passive speakers. Those require different amps, dsp, etc.

Now are these going to be better/louder/stronger than what every mobile DJ is using now. With the specs given I would think so. No one else is using a driver that large in that price range for powered speakers.

This is what I was thinking. DJ's wanting to have the best "affordable" sound will probably have it with this line. I'm just guestimating based off the old SRX series. No one's heard these yet so it's hard to say. JBL could f-ck it all up by using crappy, non-thorough tested, amps like they did with the PRX6-series line and sink the whole ship. If these amps are solid sounding, the unit is reliable, and the DSP is glitch free... I'm guessing they'll have a hit.
SELECT 9:27 PM - 26 January, 2015
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These are not equal to the STX line.. im sticking with the STX on this one.. powered 2000 watt amp on a double 18 im running 4k into a STX 828S these seem to be positioned below the STX line in my opinion

You're probably right but it's much less expensive. The STX has different designs. Case in point, the SRX835. The STX835 has horn-load lows and mids whereas the SRX835 does not.

Question though... does the SRX828 have the same exact drivers as the STX828? If not, what is the efficiency of the STX's vs. the SRX's? If the SRX's are more efficient, it would take less power to get them just as loud, thus, no need for 4k of wattage to make them sing. FYI, the SRX's and STX's are notorious for having inefficient drivers. That's why they require so much power to really get them going.


They might be inefficient so to speak, but heavy they are not. The SRX are some of the lightest and strongest speakers ever made. They require tour grade amps to get them going. Thats a plus in my book. They were made for live music and can take a lot of abuse.

I also owned a EAW fr250z dual 15 sub. That thing would shake the block, literally. I cant describe how impressive that sub sounds. All it needed was 1000 watts, but it was heavy as shit.
SG SOUNDS 11:04 PM - 26 January, 2015
Can someone please explain the difference between the SRX, STX, PRX and the VRX series of JBL speakers..The double 18 in this new series looks very interesting to replace my boomy yorkies
pdidy 11:36 PM - 26 January, 2015
PRX = Mid level powered speaker with good quality for the average user.

SRX700 series = Entry Pro level of Passive speaker.

STX = Entry Pro level and Update to the SRX700 passive series.

SRX800 series = The Jury is still out ? Its a New powered speaker thats affordable and "possibly" better than all mid level speakers like PRX or ETX but we cant determine if its Entry Pro level yet......

VRX = Entry Pro level Powered & passive, Designed to be Flown for Entry concert level.

My educated "guess" is the SRX828sp will equal the Yorkville801 in output but noticeably outperform the the yorkville in sound quality.
pdidy 12:08 AM - 27 January, 2015
Types of Speaker Levels.....
Entry level = generally associated with cheap, inexpensive gear designed for beginners or cheap users or users that don't know quality. There are some rare exception to entry level that are actually very good like ev ZLX.

Mid level = Also refereed to as MI is good quality at an affordable price like qsc k kw, etx, prx.

Entry Professional = High quality at a higher price but affordable to the working Professional.

High end = Very expensive high quality for the advanced Professional who can afford the best.

Concert level = Can be either Entry Professional or High end but provide Large scale systems for 1000+ costing $25,000 to Millions of dollar systems.
pdidy 12:23 AM - 27 January, 2015
Boutique speakers = A unique High quality speaker for the advanced user with very good taste and standards. These speaker tend to fulfill a very Specific niche market and are rare.
Ig. EVOX8, Ev zxa5, Danley, JTR....
SELECT 7:07 PM - 27 January, 2015
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Can someone please explain the difference between the SRX, STX, PRX and the VRX series of JBL speakers..The double 18 in this new series looks very interesting to replace my boomy yorkies


SRX are passive (non Powered) speakers. They are raw live music speakers. Light weight and made with premium components. Bigger and stronger drivers than your typical self powered speakers. 3 inch drivers. Require tour grade amps and processors. Very expensive setup, but worth it for musicians. Better sound and louder than your powered speakers.

STX (non powered) are the replacement to the SRX. SRX are discontinued. Raw live music speakers. Again lightweight, stronger and bigger components than your typical powered speakers. 3 inch drivers. Louder than your powered speakers. Some consider a downgrade since the internal components changed. From what I hear the SRX were expensive to manufacture. Look it up, but thats the easy version.

Cons of the SRX, STX line, again expensive for a complete setup with amps and dsp units. Dispersion/coverage degree is always less than powered speakers, but then again musicians use multiple speakers.

PRX are powered inexpensive JBL speakers for light mobile work. 1 inch drivers. However great coverage pattern. Most powered speakers have great coverage at your typical 90 x 50 degrees. Thats left and right (90), up and down (50).

VRX are self powered line array speakers. These are made for optimum coverage. Great for concerts where you can control the sound and have the front, back and sides of the room hearing at the same level. Cons, you need a lot of them since the project sound in a narrow beam, left and right is usually 100 degrees (wide), up and down is like 10-15 degrees (super narrow). You'll need 5-6 to get at least 90 x 90 coverage. Better suited for installs and concerts.
DJ GaFFle 7:47 PM - 27 January, 2015
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SRX are passive (non Powered) speakers. They are raw live music speakers. Light weight and made with premium components. Bigger and stronger drivers than your typical self powered speakers. 3 inch drivers. Require tour grade amps and processors. Very expensive setup, but worth it for musicians. Better sound and louder than your powered speakers.

No debate on SRX/STX quality and not to nic-pick but inefficient drivers are not an excuse for requiring tour-grade or heavy-handed power. If anything, it's an excuse for amp companies to charge you more for bigger amps. Am I missing the point somewhere?
pdidy 7:57 PM - 27 January, 2015
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SRX are passive (non Powered) speakers. They are raw live music speakers. Light weight and made with premium components. Bigger and stronger drivers than your typical self powered speakers. 3 inch drivers. Require tour grade amps and processors. Very expensive setup, but worth it for musicians. Better sound and louder than your powered speakers.

No debate on SRX/STX quality and not to nic-pick but inefficient drivers are not an excuse for requiring tour-grade or heavy-handed power. If anything, it's an excuse for amp companies to charge you more for bigger amps. Am I missing the point somewhere?

ooooh so that's why Jbl and crown have such a close relationship.......lol
pdidy 7:58 PM - 27 January, 2015
@ select, very nice explanation.
SELECT 9:42 PM - 27 January, 2015
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SRX are passive (non Powered) speakers. They are raw live music speakers. Light weight and made with premium components. Bigger and stronger drivers than your typical self powered speakers. 3 inch drivers. Require tour grade amps and processors. Very expensive setup, but worth it for musicians. Better sound and louder than your powered speakers.

No debate on SRX/STX quality and not to nic-pick but inefficient drivers are not an excuse for requiring tour-grade or heavy-handed power. If anything, it's an excuse for amp companies to charge you more for bigger amps. Am I missing the point somewhere?


Who knows, but you don't really need tour grade amps to get em to work. I did notice though the heavier the passive speaker, the less power you need to get them to work. You would think its the opposite. The SRX are super lightweight. Its also a habit that I say they require tour grade amps since Ive tried over and over to help so many people with those speakers who get them are unhappy. They buy cheap beringher amps or something similar at 800 watts and expect to be blow away. They read this tho-

800 W / 1600 W / 3200 W
(Continuous/Program/Peak)

There are so any cheap amps out there that can deliver 800 watts at 8ohms stereo. To get it right though you should be closer to program or above. I used a combination of two crown amps bridged, one for each top and one QSC amp bridged for the subs. They handled the power beautifully.

Take a look at the powered SRX line now, 2000 watts each, 3 inch drivers, great coverage. Cant beat it.
SELECT 9:50 PM - 27 January, 2015
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Can someone please explain the difference between the SRX, STX, PRX and the VRX series of JBL speakers..The double 18 in this new series looks very interesting to replace my boomy yorkies


Keep in mind horn loaded subs (yorkies) are definitely not the best sounding, but project bass forward and onto the dance floor. For certain genres/crowds, that might be best for you.
DJ GaFFle 10:06 PM - 27 January, 2015
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Who knows, but you don't really need tour grade amps to get em to work. I did notice though the heavier the passive speaker, the less power you need to get them to work. You would think its the opposite. The SRX are super lightweight. Its also a habit that I say they require tour grade amps since Ive tried over and over to help so many people with those speakers who get them are unhappy. They buy cheap beringher amps or something similar at 800 watts and expect to be blow away. They read this tho-
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I hear you there... cheap amps on speakers of this grade are a no-no.

But case in point:

My old EV QRX212/75's
135dB max SPL
600W RMS required
102dB driver sensitivity passive
80 lbs

JBL SRX722's
135dB max SPL
1200W RMS required
97dB driver sensitivity passive
76 lbs

Theoretically, right off the rip and with only 1W of power, the EV is capable of:

Power EV's dB vs. JBL's dB
1 watts 102dB vs. 97dB.
2 watts 105dB vs. 100dB
4 watts 108dB vs. 103dB
8 watts 111dB vs. 106dB
16 watts 114dB vs. 109dB
32 watts 117dB vs. 112dB
64 watts 120dB vs. 115dB
128 watts 123dB vs. 118dB
256 watts 126dB vs. 121dB
512 watts 129dB vs. 124dB
1024 watts 131dB vs. 127dB
2048 watts 134dB vs. 130dB
2400 watts 135dB vs. 130dB
4800 watts n/a vs. 135dB

So with only 2400 watts of applied peak power, the EV is 5dB louder than the JBL.
Yeah, JBL is in bed with Crown, LoL.
Rebelguy 11:04 PM - 27 January, 2015
Harman owns Crown and JBL.
pdidy 11:26 PM - 27 January, 2015
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Duh...I actually knew that but i went retard for a minute....lol

www.harman.com
SELECT 2:21 AM - 28 January, 2015
Different components, different power handling, different sound. Bottom line. Its what you prefer to get the sound you like. JBL sound is very different than QSC, EV, Yorkville, EAW, etc. They all have their pros and cons in particular on how they perform.

Did you guys see this video? JBL SRX800 Watchwww.youtube.com
pdidy 6:39 AM - 28 January, 2015
Well you know I did but there no good videos showing the 800 series
SG SOUNDS 2:45 PM - 28 January, 2015
Thanks for all the info guy's...How does JBL sound compare to EV?
SG SOUNDS 2:48 PM - 28 January, 2015
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Thanks for all the info guy's...How does JBL sound compare to EV?


Or even Yorkville?
Joee 2:50 PM - 28 January, 2015
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Thanks for all the info guy's...How does JBL sound compare to EV?

in my experience the ev compression drivers are smother more natural sounding, the jbl high has too much highs for my liking


it's nothing that can't be corrected with proper tuning
SELECT 3:31 PM - 28 January, 2015
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Thanks for all the info guy's...How does JBL sound compare to EV?


Depends on speakers, powered or passive? Thats impossible to write about as you would have to hear them for yourself. You'd have to do a side by side comparison. All these speaker companies use different drivers and tune their speakers differently. Not to mention the coverage is different. I always felt like QSC sound was warmer and overly compressed. JBL I feel always gives you what you put in. EV feels like a combination of both. This is all generally speaking as I'm no audio expert, but have used all three for mobile DJ use.
SG SOUNDS 3:57 PM - 28 January, 2015
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Thanks for all the info guy's...How does JBL sound compare to EV?


Depends on speakers, powered or passive? Thats impossible to write about as you would have to hear them for yourself. You'd have to do a side by side comparison. All these speaker companies use different drivers and tune their speakers differently. Not to mention the coverage is different. I always felt like QSC sound was warmer and overly compressed. JBL I feel always gives you what you put in. EV feels like a combination of both. This is all generally speaking as I'm no audio expert, but have used all three for mobile DJ use.


I love the sound of the EV ETX 35-p which i currently own i use them with 4 yorkies..The voice coil is not 3 or 4 inches like these other speakers like the rcf etc but you wouldn't know that if you heard them unless somebody told you.. In the past i had the EV zxa5 and the promax 14a and the 35-p to me sounded way better that the others coupled up with my yorkies....I will be curious to hear these jbl 3-way box compared to my EV's

As for my yorkies they fill the floor with a lot of bass (i play soca,reggae,r&b-hip hop) with ease just want something just as them thats a little more tighter and goes down more...
Joee 3:58 PM - 28 January, 2015
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I always felt like QSC sound was warmer and overly compressed. JBL I feel always gives you what you put in. EV feels like a combination of both. This is all generally speaking as I'm no audio expert, but have used all three for mobile DJ use.

imo your 100% correct

its why a was a long time ev fan, i found rcf to be just as pleasing to the ear as ev hence now I'm a rcf fan
SELECT 4:16 PM - 28 January, 2015
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I always felt like QSC sound was warmer and overly compressed. JBL I feel always gives you what you put in. EV feels like a combination of both. This is all generally speaking as I'm no audio expert, but have used all three for mobile DJ use.

imo your 100% correct

its why a was a long time ev fan, i found rcf to be just as pleasing to the ear as ev hence now I'm a rcf fan


Yeah RCF is another brand that I really like. Their sound is awesome too.
SELECT 4:31 PM - 28 January, 2015
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Thanks for all the info guy's...How does JBL sound compare to EV?


Depends on speakers, powered or passive? Thats impossible to write about as you would have to hear them for yourself. You'd have to do a side by side comparison. All these speaker companies use different drivers and tune their speakers differently. Not to mention the coverage is different. I always felt like QSC sound was warmer and overly compressed. JBL I feel always gives you what you put in. EV feels like a combination of both. This is all generally speaking as I'm no audio expert, but have used all three for mobile DJ use.


I love the sound of the EV ETX 35-p which i currently own i use them with 4 yorkies..The voice coil is not 3 or 4 inches like these other speakers like the rcf etc but you wouldn't know that if you heard them unless somebody told you.. In the past i had the EV zxa5 and the promax 14a and the 35-p to me sounded way better that the others coupled up with my yorkies....I will be curious to hear these jbl 3-way box compared to my EV's

As for my yorkies they fill the floor with a lot of bass (i play soca,reggae,r&b-hip hop) with ease just want something just as them thats a little more tighter and goes down more...



Oh yeah the sound of a three way is awesome! The 3 way JBL looks quite impressive as well.

The JBL SRX sub I had went down plenty, definitely better sounding than most typical 18 in subs. Bass had more definition.
DJ GaFFle 6:36 PM - 28 January, 2015
I can't wait to see these SRX800's in the wild. I've got my eye on the 835P and curious about the 815P.
SG SOUNDS 7:37 PM - 28 January, 2015
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Thanks for all the info guy's...How does JBL sound compare to EV?


Depends on speakers, powered or passive? Thats impossible to write about as you would have to hear them for yourself. You'd have to do a side by side comparison. All these speaker companies use different drivers and tune their speakers differently. Not to mention the coverage is different. I always felt like QSC sound was warmer and overly compressed. JBL I feel always gives you what you put in. EV feels like a combination of both. This is all generally speaking as I'm no audio expert, but have used all three for mobile DJ use.


I love the sound of the EV ETX 35-p which i currently own i use them with 4 yorkies..The voice coil is not 3 or 4 inches like these other speakers like the rcf etc but you wouldn't know that if you heard them unless somebody told you.. In the past i had the EV zxa5 and the promax 14a and the 35-p to me sounded way better that the others coupled up with my yorkies....I will be curious to hear these jbl 3-way box compared to my EV's

As for my yorkies they fill the floor with a lot of bass (i play soca,reggae,r&b-hip hop) with ease just want something just as them thats a little more tighter and goes down more...



Oh yeah the sound of a three way is awesome! The 3 way JBL looks quite impressive as well.

The JBL SRX sub I had went down plenty, definitely better sounding than most typical 18 in subs. Bass had more definition.



I played out with a dj couple years back and he was using some srx subs,not sure which model but it was a 2 sound set up he was using his sound and i was using mine...My yorkies blew his sound away..After the gig he came up to me and ask me were did i buy my yorkies,apparently he ended up buying 4 yorkie subs the following week..

Regarding the yorkies although I've been gathering info on getting some subs to replace them almost everybody i talk to is telling me to keep them and if i do replace them do so with the danley's or orbit shifters....
SG SOUNDS 7:37 PM - 28 January, 2015
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I can't wait to see these SRX800's in the wild. I've got my eye on the 835P and curious about the 815P.


+1
Joee 7:38 PM - 28 January, 2015
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I can't wait to see these SRX800's in the wild. I've got my eye on the 835P and curious about the 815P.

you really want to get back to a three way top box for your th's don't you?

the qrx's not doing it for you?


i'm guessing if you would not have had problems with the prx 3 way you would still be using them? i know why you don't what the etx 3 way because of the small horn, the new jbl with it's 3" is intriguing you huh?


time to spend some of that baby money…..lol
SELECT 7:53 PM - 28 January, 2015
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I can't wait to see these SRX800's in the wild. I've got my eye on the 835P and curious about the 815P.


+1



Are the three ways pole mountable? The EVs are.
SELECT 7:53 PM - 28 January, 2015
Just seen this- Standard 35mm Pole Cup

Yeah so it seems like the new JBL 3 ways are pole mountable. Nice.
DJ GaFFle 9:30 PM - 28 January, 2015
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I can't wait to see these SRX800's in the wild. I've got my eye on the 835P and curious about the 815P.

you really want to get back to a three way top box for your th's don't you?

the qrx's not doing it for you?


i'm guessing if you would not have had problems with the prx 3 way you would still be using them? i know why you don't what the etx 3 way because of the small horn, the new jbl with it's 3" is intriguing you huh?


time to spend some of that baby money…..lol

I sold the QRX's.... great speakers but no pole mount = FAIL

I would still be using the PRX635's had they held up. Fail on JBL's part with those. You guessed it on the ETX 3-ways. They may sound better than my ZXA5's but something about a 1.25" high driver doesn't sit well with me. It seems like their focus was to maybe cut costs when they made that decision. I may be totally wrong about that.
rayjthedj 12:53 AM - 29 January, 2015
In a three way cab a 1.25 driver is plenty, as you don't have the horn trying to produce the upper mid range, or the woofer trying to produce the lower mid range (the mid range driver is takin care of business) :)

Many of these smaller horn drivers will produce 110-115 db 1 watt @ 1 meter, do the math and see what 40-60 watts gets you (ear piercing high frequency volume).

I can see where the larger HF drivers with 3" and 4" voice coils can make a big difference in a two way box, when you can cross them between 500-800 hz. It will make your mid base sound much tighter and give it more punch also, as the woofer is not trying to support up to 1200-1400 hz.
DJ GaFFle 1:16 AM - 29 January, 2015
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In a three way cab a 1.25 driver is plenty, as you don't have the horn trying to produce the upper mid range, or the woofer trying to produce the lower mid range (the mid range driver is takin care of business) :)

Many of these smaller horn drivers will produce 110-115 db 1 watt @ 1 meter, do the math and see what 40-60 watts gets you (ear piercing high frequency volume).

I can see where the larger HF drivers with 3" and 4" voice coils can make a big difference in a two way box, when you can cross them between 500-800 hz. It will make your mid base sound much tighter and give it more punch also, as the woofer is not trying to support up to 1200-1400 hz.

Yeah... but they stretched that same 1.25" horn across their entire line of tops. If I'm not mistaken, that 1.25" driver they use is only about 20W RMS. I'm not sure how efficient it is but again, 1.25" when the other run-of-the-mill standard tops are at least 1.5" didn't sit too well with me.
The ETX having very good sound quality is the main end result one should focus on but I want that next-level sound, a lot better than the ZXA5's. The SRX835 3-way, with its 3" high driver, sounds like it'll be just that.
Taipanic 3:44 PM - 29 January, 2015
Would be interested in hearing ETX35, SRX835 & ZXa back to back for sure.
SG SOUNDS 4:17 PM - 29 January, 2015
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Well I could tell you straight off the back the ETX35 sounds better than its cousin the ZXA5 now between the SXR835 and ETX35 we will have to wait and see...The jbl might have the advantage with the bigger voice call or it might not..We shall see...
DJ GaFFle 11:38 PM - 29 January, 2015
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Would be interested in hearing ETX35, SRX835 & ZXa back to back for sure.


Well I could tell you straight off the back the ETX35 sounds better than its cousin the ZXA5 now between the SXR835 and ETX35 we will have to wait and see...The jbl might have the advantage with the bigger voice call or it might not..We shall see...

I agree... I felt even the PRX635's "sounded" better than the ZXA5's... just not as loud.
Johnnynights 5:35 AM - 1 February, 2015
Dam this line looks very interesting im eyeing those JBL SRX812P to go with my yorkvilles ls801p subs..

Im sure two of these SRX812P should be able to keep up with 2 yorkville ls801p since they have that big 3" driver.
TheDanimal 5:10 PM - 24 February, 2015
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Question though... does the SRX828 have the same exact drivers as the STX828? If not, what is the efficiency of the STX's vs. the SRX's? If the SRX's are more efficient, it would take less power to get them just as loud, thus, no need for 4k of wattage to make them sing. FYI, the SRX's and STX's are notorious for having inefficient drivers. That's why they require so much power to really get them going.


I can assure you the STX828 and new SRX828 do not sue the same drivers. The STX Uses the JBL 2242 Ferrite driver, which has a 4" voice coil. It's JBLs highest end ferrite sub driver, and it retails for almost $1k by itself. The SRX828 uses something smaller with a 3" voice coil. Probably not bad, but no where near the workhorse that the 2242 has been for the last 20 years.
Joee 5:26 PM - 27 February, 2015
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Im thinking it's definitely going to be way more than the ETX or KW lines.

i got pricing and there definitely in the same range as the ev etx
SELECT 6:37 PM - 27 February, 2015
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Im thinking it's definitely going to be way more than the ETX or KW lines.

i got pricing and there definitely in the same range as the ev etx


No way, ETX are much less expensive. $850.00 each for my ETX 12p. $1100.00 for the sub.
Joee 6:49 PM - 27 February, 2015
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i got pricing and there definitely in the same range as the ev etx


No way, ETX are much less expensive. $850.00 each for my ETX 12p. $1100.00 for the sub.

have you got pricing? cause i have for every single model, like i said in the same price range thats doesn't meant the exact same price


etx12p--> www.americanmusical.com

SRX812P can be had for $1,000, even at your price of $850 thats only a $150 difference, you still want to tell me there not in the same price range?
Joee 6:55 PM - 27 February, 2015
SELECT 7:01 PM - 27 February, 2015
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www.agiprodj.com
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Close price range maybe & those are advertised price. I dont know a single DJ who buys speakers at those prices.
SELECT 7:03 PM - 27 February, 2015
Im thinking of selling my etx, but I have to hear the JBL first and see the reviews. I'll go back to SRX speakers. I know what they can do.
SELECT 7:04 PM - 27 February, 2015
Also nobody buys just one speaker. So buy your calculations for two speakers, not even factoring in subs thats already at $300.0 difference in price.
Joee 7:09 PM - 27 February, 2015
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at least the ones in the know, i never pay retail
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provided you can get close to what you paid for them, i think this would be the right move them 3' compression will be no joke i'm sure…..not to mention you are a fan of the passive srx line

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stop it…….lol i said in the same range not the same price only $100 advertised difference
Joee 7:15 PM - 27 February, 2015
when comparing the srx to the etx sub

i'm thinking the ev sub will win, i haven't looked at the specs of the srx18 but the box on the etx18sp looks deeper ……more room to move air = better bass
SELECT 7:39 PM - 27 February, 2015
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when comparing the srx to the etx sub

i'm thinking the ev sub will win, i haven't looked at the specs of the srx18 but the box on the etx18sp looks deeper ……more room to move air = better bass


The box is one thing. The internal components are what Id be most concerned with. Who has better amps, dsp, etc. That will determine which one sounds better and on paper the JBL wins. The DSP is far more advanced. The frequency response & spl is close tho. Time will tell.
Joee 7:46 PM - 27 February, 2015
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Time will tell.

i hope so, maybe i missed it but i still haven't found a honest review of the PRX715XLF


thats been out how long?
SG SOUNDS 11:03 PM - 3 March, 2015
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when comparing the srx to the etx sub

i'm thinking the ev sub will win, i haven't looked at the specs of the srx18 but the box on the etx18sp looks deeper ……more room to move air = better bass


The box is one thing. The internal components are what Id be most concerned with. Who has better amps, dsp, etc. That will determine which one sounds better and on paper the JBL wins. The DSP is far more advanced. The frequency response & spl is close tho. Time will tell.


The ETX DSP aint no slouch neither very advanced in my opinion and great speaker protection.
pdidy 11:18 PM - 3 March, 2015
My money is on the etx18sp beating the srx818sp and the srx800 series tops beating everybody in that range (EV, QSC, YAMAHA).
Djc Jimenez 11:36 PM - 3 March, 2015
Should I buy the RCF ART-745 or wait for the SRX800 series to come out?
Joee 1:38 AM - 4 March, 2015
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Should I buy the RCF ART-745 or wait for the SRX800 series to come out?

well the 745 does have the 4" compression driver advantage, vs jbl's 3"
Joee 1:38 AM - 4 March, 2015
but id say wait to compare
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:56 AM - 4 March, 2015
This thread delivers...
pdidy 8:01 AM - 4 March, 2015
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Should I buy the RCF ART-745 or wait for the SRX800 series to come out?

You should definitely wait because none of us know what the SRX800 series will really sound like and most of us have never actually heard the RCF 745 to make an informed recommendation.

We are all just guessing at this point in the game.
SELECT 4:09 PM - 4 March, 2015
One huge advantage of the SRX800 is being able to wireless tune your sound system from a tablet/ipad. If I were out looking for a new sound system that would be a major factor for me.
Rebelguy 4:45 PM - 4 March, 2015
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One huge advantage of the SRX800 is being able to wireless tune your sound system from a tablet/ipad. If I were out looking for a new sound system that would be a major factor for me.


Does anyone know how this works? The ethercon connector on the back leads me to believe that you will have to wire all the speakers together with Ethernet cable and then to a router to be able to use the system. Seems like a major hassle.
SG SOUNDS 10:14 PM - 4 March, 2015
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One huge advantage of the SRX800 is being able to wireless tune your sound system from a tablet/ipad. If I were out looking for a new sound system that would be a major factor for me.


Holy shit didn't know it could do that..That a big advantage right there for me over the EV's tuning the box from far away would be sweet...
ancientyouth 3:48 AM - 5 March, 2015
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One huge advantage of the SRX800 is being able to wireless tune your sound system from a tablet/ipad. If I were out looking for a new sound system that would be a major factor for me.


Does anyone know how this works? The ethercon connector on the back leads me to believe that you will have to wire all the speakers together with Ethernet cable and then to a router to be able to use the system. Seems like a major hassle.


Awesome feature IMO just tape ethernet cables to all daisy chained xlr and well worth the hassle of plugging in a few extra ether cables especially if u upgrade to HIQNET will provide real time monitoring so you can actually see what each speaker is drawing for power.
Johnnynights 10:19 PM - 10 March, 2015
I got my Jbl srx15p from fedex today cant wait to try them out i just been busy ill see if soon ill make a video of them.

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desmorider 11:45 PM - 10 March, 2015
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I got my Jbl srx15p from fedex today cant wait to try them out i just been busy ill see if soon ill make a video of them.

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Dope.............. Look forward to your review
pdidy 11:55 PM - 10 March, 2015
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i think you're the first to get them on the forum.

What other speakers have you owned or used that you can compare them too ?
Joee 12:12 AM - 11 March, 2015
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nice…….
Johnnynights 3:27 AM - 11 March, 2015
@desmorider ill try to make one lets see if on the weekend cuz i got a lot of work right now lol.

@pdidy i owned some yamaha dxr12s which i upgraded from they never gave me a problem lets see how these hold up ill keep you guys posted when i play with them.

@Joee thanks =)
pdidy 6:59 AM - 11 March, 2015
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@pdidy i owned some yamaha dxr12s which i upgraded from they never gave me a problem lets see how these hold up ill keep you guys posted when i play with them.

Okay that's a very good speaker for a sound quality comparison but the srx should get noticeably louder.

now if 1 srx815sp can get as loud as 2 dxr12s, that would put it close to ev-zxa5 territory....
SELECT 1:31 PM - 11 March, 2015
Make sure you set your input level correctly first. My ETX are the same, the manual states to turn down input level before you begin. Most people neglect to read it and just leave the input level at zero hence the limiting lights when they start blasting away. My speakers never limit since I set proper gain structure from my mixer first, yellow blinking dot on the gains, master at unity and then I turn up input level on the speaker. The master level on the speaker I just leave that at zero. The old school blinking dot and one volume knob is no more. These new speakers are coming better equiped to handle multiple inputs, mixer boards, mics, instruments, etc. Having a visual of your input level on the speaker is the best way to set proper gain structure. Cant wait to hear them for myself. I'll have to go to guitar center and give those guys a tutorial on how to use them lol.
Johnnynights 3:37 AM - 12 March, 2015
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@pdidy i owned some yamaha dxr12s which i upgraded from they never gave me a problem lets see how these hold up ill keep you guys posted when i play with them.

Okay that's a very good speaker for a sound quality comparison but the srx should get noticeably louder.

now if 1 srx815sp can get as loud as 2 dxr12s, that would put it close to ev-zxa5 territory....


I tried it today in my room which is pretty small and it does sound louder than the yamaha dxr12s,i didnt have time to play with it much so i still dont know how to mess with all the dsp and other stuff yet.
Johnnynights 3:41 AM - 12 March, 2015
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Make sure you set your input level correctly first. My ETX are the same, the manual states to turn down input level before you begin. Most people neglect to read it and just leave the input level at zero hence the limiting lights when they start blasting away. My speakers never limit since I set proper gain structure from my mixer first, yellow blinking dot on the gains, master at unity and then I turn up input level on the speaker. The master level on the speaker I just leave that at zero. The old school blinking dot and one volume knob is no more. These new speakers are coming better equiped to handle multiple inputs, mixer boards, mics, instruments, etc. Having a visual of your input level on the speaker is the best way to set proper gain structure. Cant wait to hear them for myself. I'll have to go to guitar center and give those guys a tutorial on how to use them lol.



Ima try that,i still dont even know how to setup the app it has to eq the speakers,as soon as i start messing with it lets see if i get it right.
SELECT 7:42 AM - 12 March, 2015
Cool, just please learn how to use the speakers first before you give a review. That input level is everything.
Johnnynights 3:37 PM - 12 March, 2015
@Select oh for sure..im new to this digital settings on the back of the speaker but ill post a review on them once i learn it good..

But one thing they do sound good and really clear..cant wait to try them on my up coming gigs.
Joee 3:38 PM - 12 March, 2015
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@Select oh for sure..im new to this digital settings on the back of the speaker but ill post a review on them once i learn it good..

But one thing they do sound good and really clear..cant wait to try them on my up coming gigs.

how's the bass on them?
Johnnynights 3:16 AM - 13 March, 2015
@ Joee the bass is really good i tried it on my room cuz i havent had time and let me tell you the bass is good,on the weekend i might try them outside so ill share more info.
Johnnynights 3:17 AM - 13 March, 2015
Stupid phone auto spell put bass twice lol
djtaco 12:01 AM - 14 March, 2015
I just received my pair today. And on the main setting I wasn't impressed in comparison to my QSC kw122 and the bass is not that great...
DJ GaFFle 1:06 AM - 14 March, 2015
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I just received my pair today. And on the main setting I wasn't impressed in comparison to my QSC kw122 and the bass is not that great...

Your pair of what... 12's, 15's, 10's, Eon's, JRX's? We're gonna have to take your "review" with a grain of salt until you come with some details and info on how/what you tested.
djtaco 1:23 AM - 14 March, 2015
My pair of jbl srx 15p I compared them side by side with my kw122s
DJ GaFFle 1:49 AM - 14 March, 2015
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My pair of jbl srx 15p I compared them side by side with my kw122s

So you're saying the bass response of a higher end SRX 15" doesn't sound as good as the QSC 12" speaker? I'm assuming you don't like its overall sound quality either. You might wanna dig deeper into that user manual and the DSP settings like someone mentioned above. I would highly doubt anything in this SRX like plays even or sub par to QSC KW line.

Sound is subjective though so we'll wait till you get more listening time and experience with those tops.
DJ GaFFle 1:49 AM - 14 March, 2015
SRX line...
Johnnynights 3:11 AM - 14 March, 2015
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I just received my pair today. And on the main setting I wasn't impressed in comparison to my QSC kw122 and the bass is not that great...

Did you set it up right because mines sound really clear and loud and i still havent messed with the dsp stuff

Make sure you have the channel input at 0b and your master set to 0db then well if you need more volume crank the master up a bit...
Johnnynights 3:12 AM - 14 March, 2015
Im still trying to learn how to use that app thing i havent tried it...
djtaco 3:43 AM - 14 March, 2015
I didn't say the bass of the kw122 was batter. What I said was that the srx didn't blow it out of the water like I thought it would (12vs15) and I did have it as main with 0db... Now...... When I played both srx's together at +2,+3,+4,+5,+6DB I stopped there because it game me the limit warning. They got really loud...BTW my kw122 also clipps at +6db without deep mode engaged...
Johnnynights 4:46 AM - 14 March, 2015
12 has more of a punch and 15 is more boomy maybe the srx and qsc kw series is pretty similar to each other,so far i tried 3db on the master but will test with more later,i never used the kw122 but would like to hear one to compare.

Have you tried the stand alone app with the speakers?
Johnnynights 4:48 AM - 14 March, 2015
I still havent used the iqnet/audio architect whatever is called...If you set it up already share some info.
djtaco 4:50 AM - 14 March, 2015
Not yet I just pushed both to their limit which was at +6db on the master 0db on the line level with my ddj sx2 maxed out before clipping and they got really loud.. The kw122 is a great sounding speaker. I was going to sell them but after this comparison I think they're worth keeping...
djtaco 4:54 AM - 14 March, 2015
My kw122 couldn't keep up with my pair of yorkvilles ls801 if these srxs can I'll be more than happy(: also if one of those presets sound better to you please share. I was only able to go through the first 5 and didn't notice a major difference. I do know that the ev etx's sound better on live mode. So were gonna have to see what works better on these..
Johnnynights 5:10 AM - 14 March, 2015
Im using them also with a ddj sx2,so you maxed out the ddj sx2 master and the speakers clipped?I gotta try it out,i heard good stuff about the kw122...funny i have a yorkville ls801p also and thinking of getting a second one lol...im sure these srx815p can keep up with one idk about two,let me know how it goes with too...oh for sure i was also going threw some presets today but i couldnt notice not much of a difference like you,maybe with the stand alone app we can tweak the speakers a bit more...Looks like we gotta use a ipad for that i taught we could use our phone lol.
djtaco 5:21 AM - 14 March, 2015
Yea I thought so too.... And yea those kw122 can handle some abuse. I basically put all the meters on the sx on the second yellow blinking light(never red) and pushed the srx's as far as they would go. As far as the ls801. I don't think I'll ever need to take the second one again. I pre listened at the hall where I used both(one of one on) and just one alone was enough. I honestly don't think u need a a con one.
Johnnynights 5:32 AM - 14 March, 2015
Ok got you,so you went all yellow on the channel meters and you set your master on the sx to full or middle?Yeah i want to get another ls801p but i hear that people that have 2 say they usually never need the second one..

What settings you plan on using the srx 15 100hz or 120hz with with one ls801p?

I hope i have time tommorow and will try those settings or the 80hz.
djtaco 5:40 AM - 14 March, 2015
Master on the sx was about 2-3 O'Clock master on serato was at about 11 o'clock and the gains on serato were being adjusted below the red depending on the song and the volume faders all the way up...I felt those settings were good because I didn't get distortion.. As far as the crossover point. I probably will be doing 100 for hip hop and 120 for Latin music.....
SG SOUNDS 12:51 PM - 14 March, 2015
And here almost everybody was expecting these new series was soppose to blow everything out the ballpark..I was suspect on these sounding better than the ETX series but lets wait for more reviews....
Joee 12:53 PM - 14 March, 2015
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lets wait for more reviews....

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JJP 4:41 PM - 14 March, 2015
Ohh My God !! Just Demoed the New Srx 828 SuB !!!Looks Just like The Stx 828!!!40 lbs Less weight! Crown Amp! Ethernet! 141 DB at Only $2000 !!!This Amazing speaker did Not Meet my Expectations it way Surpassed Them !!!The EV Etx and Yorkville Elite has Nothing on This The Qsc Kw 181 is Just not in this High power Category it will get blown away!The Bass So Powerful And Clean It Pounds So Hard You have to Brace The Speaker On top it because it will fall!!!I Ordered 4 dont Just Walk To your muscis Store Run !!!Im very Sure Jbl Will Raise the Price !!!because of high demand
SG SOUNDS 5:00 PM - 14 March, 2015
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Ohh My God !! Just Demoed the New Srx 828 SuB !!!Looks Just like The Stx 828!!!40 lbs Less weight! Crown Amp! Ethernet! 141 DB at Only $2000 !!!This Amazing speaker did Not Meet my Expectations it way Surpassed Them !!!The EV Etx and Yorkville Elite has Nothing on This The Qsc Kw 181 is Just not in this High power Category it will get blown away!The Bass So Powerful And Clean It Pounds So Hard You have to Brace The Speaker On top it because it will fall!!!I Ordered 4 dont Just Walk To your muscis Store Run !!!Im very Sure Jbl Will Raise the Price !!!because of high demand


Can you repeat that with confidence???...The Yorkville Elite has nothing on the STX 828???
desmorider 5:16 PM - 14 March, 2015
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Ohh My God !! Just Demoed the New Srx 828 SuB !!!Looks Just like The Stx 828!!!40 lbs Less weight! Crown Amp! Ethernet! 141 DB at Only $2000 !!!This Amazing speaker did Not Meet my Expectations it way Surpassed Them !!!The EV Etx and Yorkville Elite has Nothing on This The Qsc Kw 181 is Just not in this High power Category it will get blown away!The Bass So Powerful And Clean It Pounds So Hard You have to Brace The Speaker On top it because it will fall!!!I Ordered 4 dont Just Walk To your muscis Store Run !!!Im very Sure Jbl Will Raise the Price !!!because of high demand



The 828 is a double 18 and your comparing it to single 18's. And your surprised? If you said that the 818 blew away the ztx, 801p, or kw181, you would be saying something. Need to compare apples to apples.
 6 5:56 PM - 14 March, 2015
"Need to compare apples to apples"

I prefer Fuji to Cortland.

nm
pdidy 5:57 PM - 14 March, 2015
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Ohh My God !! Just Demoed the New Srx 828 SuB !!!Looks Just like The Stx 828!!!40 lbs Less weight! Crown Amp! Ethernet! 141 DB at Only $2000 !!!This Amazing speaker did Not Meet my Expectations it way Surpassed Them !!!The EV Etx and Yorkville Elite has Nothing on This The Qsc Kw 181 is Just not in this High power Category it will get blown away!The Bass So Powerful And Clean It Pounds So Hard You have to Brace The Speaker On top it because it will fall!!!I Ordered 4 dont Just Walk To your muscis Store Run !!!Im very Sure Jbl Will Raise the Price !!!because of high demand

by any chance have you heard a properly powered jbl srx728 ?

and if so, how would you compare it to the New Srx 828 ?

what yorkville speaker are you comparing the New Srx 828 too ?

you said the EV Etx is not better than the New Srx 828 but you did not mention if you are comparing one 18in cabinet vs the New Srx 828 dual 18in cabinet ?
JJP 7:29 PM - 14 March, 2015
Yes pdidy !!i Have Heard A Properley Powered SRX 728 I Had 6 Of Them Powered with 2 Crown Itech 8000 They Sounded Very Good But then I Sold Them and Bought 4 Srx 828 A Superior Sub With 2 2242 High Power Well know 18 inch Speakers !Powered with The Same 2 Itech 8000 amps / And I will say This as Much as I Loved both the Srx 728 and the Superior Stx 828 My Stx 828 are going for sale !!!to buy the Srx 828 !!and yes I was Comparing it with 2 Etx 18-sp witch sound Very Good I like them But at $3000 for a Pair and no Ethernet!! Yes the Srx 828 With $2000 is A Clear Winner in Both Sound And Pruce!!!the comparisson with Yorkville Elite ls 801p! i have been doing audio For 15 years And I Know My post is gonna Make alot of EV ! QSC ! And Yorkville fans Mad But its The honest Truth Demo them and then you will understand!!!
JJP 7:42 PM - 14 March, 2015
Riddimnblues Yes I will Say This With Confidence !!The Jbl Srx 828 will outperform the Yorkville elite ls 801p! it weights about the Same And it goes Deeper ! Alot Deeper And Better Processing With Ethernet and Richer Sound!Can You say the Opposite with Confidence????
JJP 7:58 PM - 14 March, 2015
Desmorider I Never Said How Manny Boxes !!So Your Assumptions Are Wrong!! here im going to express it again in Better Detail !!!The Jbl Srx 828 Vs 2 EV Etx 18sp !!!the SRX 828 Sounds Better although Very Close in Sound But you Save $1000 Dollars with The Jbl and you get Better Processing with Ethernet ! 1 Jbl Srx 828 Vs 2 Qsc Kw181 not even Close The Qsc Kw 181 Sound More like A Mid Bass Dosent go nowhere near the Sound Of the SRX 828 The Etx 18sp Beats The Qsc Kw 181 no Ethernet and Cost Is About $600 more !!The Jbl Srx 828 vs 1 Yorkville Ls 801p the Jbl has Way Better Defined Sound The Ls 801p is Loud But it lacks That 35 to 30 hrz low Frequency that Shakes your Intenstines 2 Yorkvilles might sound louder then 1 Srx 828 but I Repeat It Dosent Have the Quality in the low Extension and not as Clean The Processing in the Srx 828 Is Better!!!
SG SOUNDS 7:58 PM - 14 March, 2015
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Riddimnblues Yes I will Say This With Confidence !!The Jbl Srx 828 will outperform the Yorkville elite ls 801p! it weights about the Same And it goes Deeper ! Alot Deeper And Better Processing With Ethernet and Richer Sound!Can You say the Opposite with Confidence????


Well since its a double 18" speaker we would have to compare it to 2 ls800p which i doubt the srx 828 would be louder however i would believe it goes deeper than the yorkies and sound better.I will go demo them soon and im ready to pull the trigger on 2 of them and sell my yorkies if im satisfied with what i hear..thanks for the info..give ys more feed back when you go live with them
JJP 8:10 PM - 14 March, 2015
Riddimnblues im sorry for not explaining with detail!! Yes i Believe 2 ELITE ls 801p are Louder as i do believe The Yorkvilles get Loud!! But in my opinion they lack A Define Sound with no 35 to 30 hrz low extension What good Is A Subwoofer when it dosent produce 35 to 30 hrz thats where all the muscle is at!!!Thats all they have just loud ! Both The Jbl Srx Powered and Etx Are alot more musical!!And 2 Yorkville speakers Weight 280 lbs Vs 140 and the cost woul be $600 more and Still no Ethernet !! please I Advice you to Demo Them ! I Assure you with confidence you will put your Yorkvilles out for sale !!if
JJP 8:19 PM - 14 March, 2015
And Yes I Will give feedback when i Go live with them!!!! I Apologize if i Offended anyone !!!that is not my Intention !! I just Believe Jbl Has Done A Tremendous Job And I will Give them Credit for it!! I Would thank Everybody in this post to Go hear them before they Comment its Very hard to Comment with out listening to them!!in My Opinion i Have no Doubt that the Jbl Srx 828 Is the Ultimate Sub in Sound And Features in the $2000 category!!
desmorider 9:03 PM - 14 March, 2015
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And Yes I Will give feedback when i Go live with them!!!! I Apologize if i Offended anyone !!!that is not my Intention !! I just Believe Jbl Has Done A Tremendous Job And I will Give them Credit for it!! I Would thank Everybody in this post to Go hear them before they Comment its Very hard to Comment with out listening to them!!in My Opinion i Have no Doubt that the Jbl Srx 828 Is the Ultimate Sub in Sound And Features in the $2000 category!!


No apologies needed bro. We appreciate the information. Just needed model numbers and cabinet counts that you were comparing with. Harmon makes fantastic products, and people are hoping that this new series lives up to, and exceed expectations. I need new subs, and was in the holding pattern waiting on this series to show up. I can get the jbl's at a better price then i can get anything else, so i want to here good things about them.
JJP 9:29 PM - 14 March, 2015
Thanks Desmorider !!Best of luck on whatever you want to buy !!!I ordered 6 Srx 828 !!If anybody is interested in My Stx 828 I have sold 4 I Have 2 Available!!!at a Smoking Price They Sell On the On the Internet for $2000 i will Sacrifice the Pair for $3000 There in Mint Conditions Only used about 6 Times !!!
Johnnynights 9:55 PM - 14 March, 2015
Hmm i want to listen to those srx828 maybe i would sell my ls801p and get two of the srx828 if its worth it..

JJP what tops are you planning to use them with?
SG SOUNDS 10:31 PM - 14 March, 2015
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Riddimnblues im sorry for not explaining with detail!! Yes i Believe 2 ELITE ls 801p are Louder as i do believe The Yorkvilles get Loud!! But in my opinion they lack A Define Sound with no 35 to 30 hrz low extension What good Is A Subwoofer when it dosent produce 35 to 30 hrz thats where all the muscle is at!!!Thats all they have just loud ! Both The Jbl Srx Powered and Etx Are alot more musical!!And 2 Yorkville speakers Weight 280 lbs Vs 140 and the cost woul be $600 more and Still no Ethernet !! please I Advice you to Demo Them ! I Assure you with confidence you will put your Yorkvilles out for sale !!if


Most definitely will go demo them i already have the money to buy one then sell my yorkies and get another one.....
Joee 11:48 PM - 14 March, 2015
FYI

those new SRX828SP can be had for under $2,000
JJP 12:33 AM - 15 March, 2015
Yeah Joee I Agree on That!!!Im pretty sure you can Negotiate the Price on Them!! but at the Same Token Im Guessing that The Jbl Srx 828 will go up in Price Because I think Its to Much Speaker With To Much Options It fills More like A $2500 to $3000 Powered Subwoofer Categorie!!and Jbl has Been Know To Raise The Price After Introduction of the Cabinet!!
JJP 12:35 AM - 15 March, 2015
The Jbl Prx 718Xlf was $1299 and Now its $1399 !!
JJP 12:35 AM - 15 March, 2015
Of Course Fully Negotiable
Djc Jimenez 8:28 AM - 15 March, 2015
Thanks for sharing the info. I'll be travelling to the U.S. in about two weeks and I'm still deciding which tops to buy. I was considering the RCF ART 745-A before this SRX series came out, but now I need to wait for someone to review the SRX815P.

What I don't like about the RCF is the lack of a high pass filter, but that's pretty much it, I've heard wonders of it.

I'd appreciate any advice, thanks.
SG SOUNDS 1:41 PM - 15 March, 2015
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Riddimnblues im sorry for not explaining with detail!! Yes i Believe 2 ELITE ls 801p are Louder as i do believe The Yorkvilles get Loud!! But in my opinion they lack A Define Sound with no 35 to 30 hrz low extension What good Is A Subwoofer when it dosent produce 35 to 30 hrz thats where all the muscle is at!!!Thats all they have just loud ! Both The Jbl Srx Powered and Etx Are alot more musical!!And 2 Yorkville speakers Weight 280 lbs Vs 140 and the cost woul be $600 more and Still no Ethernet !! please I Advice you to Demo Them ! I Assure you with confidence you will put your Yorkvilles out for sale !!if


Fogot to ask whats the amp draw on these speakers..
JJP 6:21 PM - 15 March, 2015
Im Not Sure on the Power Draw !!But the Demo was Done with a Standard wall Socket im Guessing A 15 amp or 20 amp circut at The Maxium!!This Have The Crown Amp Technologie so im sure There Very Efficient!!Standard IEC PowerCord that Im ok with Because Dealing with A Power Conn When You Forget one Is Hell!!I MySelf Like Locking IEC POWER cords Better!!!Because There so Easy To Find When You Forget one Even A Computer or Keyboard power cord Works Yeahhh!!!ahhh And One More Feature I forgot For Proffesional Apications And Versatility !!It Has M10 Suspension Points !!For Flying the Sub!!!Once Again Ima Say This!!Dont Take My Words For it go Demo them!!This SRX 828 Sub Is To good to Be Truth !! but Coming from Jbl And Crown it Dosent Surprise What So Ever!!
JJP 6:42 PM - 15 March, 2015
In the Begining I was Very Weary about the Claims Of this Cabinet But When I Demoed The Sub !!Its Seemed to Good to Be True And I Thought I was Dreaming For A Minute!!!But Watching The Sub Litterley Shaking My Cloth And Physically moving From Its Standing Position dued to Super High Volumes with Very Nice Low Frequency sound That Dosent Sound Like A Horn Loade Sub !!I Knee That I was Not Leaving That Store with out Those Jbl Subs!!im Not Taking a Chance And Wait For Perhaps Jbl Raises the Price Situation!!
JJP 6:55 PM - 15 March, 2015
@Djc Jimenez!!it was The Srx 815p the one they demoed with The Srx 828!! And It sounded Bad ass!!!The Sub Was Playing so deep and Powerful that the Top was Shaking and Physically Moving on top of the Subwoofer!!!The Srx 815p was So Clean And Powerful !!they even demoed it witn no Sub !and I was Impressed Very Impressed !!!You will like them Too!!! And As Much as I Liked the Srx 815p ! I have 8 Srx 722 and Dont have the Funds to Buy Them so thats why I Got the Subs Only !!!but if i Sell my Srx 722 later im going to but the Srx 835 by hearing the Srx 815p and being impressed i can Imagine what the Srx 835 will doo!!maybe you should Demo the Srx 835 i Believe it will Surpass The Srx 815p in Power and Sound! I DIDNT demi the Srx 835 because they did not have it! I Realley Think They got it Right This Time!!!
desmorider 6:00 PM - 16 March, 2015
In looking at the specs on JBL's website it seems that the doulble 18 (828p) has 1500watts rms and the single 18 (818p) has 750watts rms. I would think that the only way that they could reach maximum published spl of 141db (828) and 135db (818) would be to have very, very efficient woofers. Subwoofers with much larger/heavier boxes, and more power don't have spl's that high. I hope that they are as good as they look on paper.
pdidy 6:45 PM - 16 March, 2015
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In looking at the specs on JBL's website it seems that the doulble 18 (828p) has 1500watts rms and the single 18 (818p) has 750watts rms.

Are those specs of the amp or the woofer ?

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Subwoofers with much larger/heavier boxes, and more power don't have spl's that high. I hope that they are as good as they look on paper.

I doubt it, I'm pretty sure those are just marketing lies...... nothing new everybody doesn't.
pdidy 6:47 PM - 16 March, 2015
everybody doesn't. = Everybody does it
desmorider 8:16 PM - 16 March, 2015
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In looking at the specs on JBL's website it seems that the doulble 18 (828p) has 1500watts rms and the single 18 (818p) has 750watts rms.

Are those specs of the amp or the woofer ?

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Subwoofers with much larger/heavier boxes, and more power don't have spl's that high. I hope that they are as good as they look on paper.

I doubt it, I'm pretty sure those are just marketing lies...... nothing new everybody doesn't.



Those are amp specs. Also the woofers have 3in coils
pdidy 8:46 PM - 16 March, 2015
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In looking at the specs on JBL's website it seems that the doulble 18 (828p) has 1500watts rms and the single 18 (818p) has 750watts rms.

Are those specs of the amp or the woofer ?

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Subwoofers with much larger/heavier boxes, and more power don't have spl's that high. I hope that they are as good as they look on paper.

I doubt it, I'm pretty sure those are just marketing lies...... nothing new everybody doesn't.



Those are amp specs. Also the woofers have 3in coils

Can you post a link to this page ?
pdidy 8:55 PM - 16 March, 2015
@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?
desmorider 9:01 PM - 16 March, 2015
jblpro.com

And click on spec sheet for each model
desmorider 10:53 PM - 16 March, 2015
Spec sheet for the double 18(828)

jblpro.com
pdidy 12:11 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Spec sheet for the double 18(828)

jblpro.com

thanks got it........

I see they finally listed the woofer being used and it is NEW woofer. (JBL 2279F)
Being that it is a new woofer, it allows for the possibility of it being more efficient and louder than all previous models but im still skeptical.
pdidy 12:12 AM - 17 March, 2015
But I want to be wrong :)
desmorider 12:19 AM - 17 March, 2015
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But I want to be wrong :)


Haha. I want you to be wrong also. I'm very skeptical.
desmorider 12:27 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Spec sheet for the double 18(828)

jblpro.com

thanks got it........

I see they finally listed the woofer being used and it is NEW woofer. (JBL 2279F)
Being that it is a new woofer, it allows for the possibility of it being more efficient and louder than all previous models but im still skeptical.


Interesting. The f in the woofer model number designates 2 ohm. Diddy is the 918sp 2
desmorider 12:28 AM - 17 March, 2015
ohm?. Man, I wish that we could go back in and edit a post.
pdidy 12:45 AM - 17 March, 2015
Not to mention their simple math does not add up......

For example look at the vrx918sp
1500 Watts Peak, 750 Watts Continuous - ok makes sense
peak=2 X RMS (continuous) .
www.tanzhaus-zuerich.ch

But or the SRX828sp the
1000W Peak, 750W Continuous
(750 X 2 = 1500 NOT 1000) = Bullshit .....lol
www.jblpro.com
That does not add up so one of those numbers are wrong.... Right ??
Its VERY COMMON for companies to play dumb and claim "misprinted specs" whenever they want to hide something.
pdidy 12:49 AM - 17 March, 2015
Yes, the vrx918sp is - 2 x 2 ohms
desmorider 12:56 AM - 17 March, 2015
I was wondering about the peak and rms not being standardized also. 1000 watts peak has for the most part been 500 rms. Maybe crown is using some new switch mode amp technology in these. The mor i read, the more it's not adding up.
pdidy 12:57 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Maybe crown is using some new switch mode amp technology in these.

C'mon man, now we both know damn well.......lol
Joee 12:59 AM - 17 March, 2015
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But or the SRX828sp the
1000W Peak, 750W Continuous
(750 X 2 = 1500 NOT 1000) = Bullshit .....lol

good eye i never noticed that…speakers are almost if not always half of the peak power rating, so that math would make it 500 watts continues
Joee 1:03 AM - 17 March, 2015
wait the double 18" not the single? o yeah something doesn't add up……

could be a misprint
pdidy 1:03 AM - 17 March, 2015
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so that math would make it 500 watts continues

Bingo !
This is what they are likely hiding, the SRX sub is likely using a smaller 500watt rms Woofer as compared to the previous 750watt.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:05 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Maybe crown is using some new switch mode amp technology in these.

C'mon man, now we both know damn well.......lol


That did sound funny just reading that...lol
pdidy 1:06 AM - 17 March, 2015
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so that math would make it 500 watts continues

Bingo !
This is what they are likely hiding, the SRX sub is likely using a smaller 500watt rms Woofer as compared to the previous 750watt.

correction 800watt in the previous srx www.jblpro.com
desmorider 1:08 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Maybe crown is using some new switch mode amp technology in these.

C'mon man, now we both know damn well.......lol


HaHa..........

Snake oil. Magic technology.
Joee 1:11 AM - 17 March, 2015
well that sheds some light on things……the srx828 can be had for the same price as the vrx918sp
Joee 1:13 AM - 17 March, 2015
crazy huh?

a single 18 cost the same as a double 18 & if i'm not mistaken the vrx is basically a powered srx (real srx)
pdidy 1:18 AM - 17 March, 2015
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crazy huh?

a single 18 cost the same as a double 18 & if i'm not mistaken the vrx is basically a powered srx (real srx)

To be more specific, it is a "Properly" powered srx718 according to JBL's exact Specs and design.
pdidy 1:25 AM - 17 March, 2015
Now if this NEW woofer. (JBL 2279F) was Soooooooo freakin efficient that it could produce more SPL with less power wouldnt it have been a MAJOR marketing and selling point ?

Are we to believe that JBL missed that opportunity ?
Joee 1:25 AM - 17 March, 2015
i still would definitely not count out this new 828……we are taking two 18" in a big box moving a lot of air

ay maybe jbl finally learned how to make a sensitive speaker…….lol
desmorider 1:42 AM - 17 March, 2015
I am hoping it's the business because i have a friend thats a harmon dealer. He said he can get it to me for about $1500.
desmorider 1:45 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Now if this NEW woofer. (JBL 2279F) was Soooooooo freakin efficient that it could produce more SPL with less power wouldnt it have been a MAJOR marketing and selling point ?

Are we to believe that JBL missed that opportunity ?



They would have been biggin dat shit up from the very beginning, instead of hiding the model number until after release.
DJKayce 2:23 AM - 17 March, 2015
Hey guys, I have been following this tread since day 1 waiting for a real world review on the new JBL SRX815P. Am not interested in the subs cos I have 2 LS801P which serves me well. I have ZXA5 and JBL SRX715. I like the sound of my srx715 but am done with lugging amps around so I've waiting for the powered version. So am asking, is this the really powered version(SRX815P) OF SRX715?

For some reason, I jump the gun too fast when EV ETX 15P came out. I bought 2 but returned them fast cos they did not come close to my ZXA5 and they limit too fast. I want to pull the trigger on this new SRX815P(1500w cont) if the sound will be the same or more of that of SRX715 passive version.

No other reviews online on this speakers.

HELP, HELP, HELP.
DJKayce 2:28 AM - 17 March, 2015
Looking for a powered top that can come close to ZXA5 or better in the price range of ETX and SRX. Am hoping this JBL SRX815P will deliver. The passive srx715 is a beast. Fingers crossed.
DJ GaFFle 3:10 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Looking for a powered top that can come close to ZXA5 or better in the price range of ETX and SRX...

Aren't we all...
desmorider 3:31 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Looking for a powered top that can come close to ZXA5 or better in the price range of ETX and SRX. Am hoping this JBL SRX815P will deliver. The passive srx715 is a beast. Fingers crossed.


If the srx815p falls short, check out the rcf art745a. I hope the srx815p is the beast that you need it to be.
JJP 7:03 AM - 17 March, 2015
Pdiddy I have not Used my new Srx 828 that i Bought!!there not available till the 28th of this Month!!!and To the people That Are Wondering how have they Achieve 141 db !!Its Because they use a 3 inch voice coil Neo speaker and not a 4 inch !!!A 3 inch with very high Efficiency Ratio!!!The Srx 728 had A 3 inch voice coil with very Nice sound and the Speaker was Neo!! That was 8 years Ago and 8 years later jbl made a Better Design!! With the srx 828 People please think before you speak !!!Most of this comments are from people who have not Demo the speaker yet!!!if you havent demo the speaker then how can you have a opinion And One more thing the amp thats inside is the Very Best Crown has to offer thats Why its 2000 watts peak and produces 141 db its like a Small engine Porsche with 320 hp that beats a 450 hp camaro in speed?? Jbl has made a Sick design!and will prove there dominace !!!!i have no doubt about it and thrust me when you hear the Srx 815 powered you will not even think of downgrading to a Rcf art 745a this is a comment frome someone that has no Demo the Srx 815powered!!!and Basses his opinion on Just Prefference of brand with out doing a Live demo of both cabinets!!!!
JJP 7:15 AM - 17 March, 2015
Dj Gaffle the Srx 815 will outperforme the Ev Zx5a Please go demo it!!and the Etx 15 powered not even a match !!the Rcf Art 745a is the closest on to the srx 815 powered but It still falls Short !!!Go demo them And you will see what im talking about !!!Jbl is Always Power hungry in there Speakers but they produce the finest Drivers in the Market and problebley the mosy Expensive and now They have Focus there energy in Efficiency enter The Srx 800 Series!!
JJP 7:20 AM - 17 March, 2015
Desmorider have you demoed the srx 815 powered and if so When ??? how can you prove the Rcf art 745a sounds better ?? When did yku do the shoot out!!im anxious to hear your Response??and Expertice???
pdidy 7:58 AM - 17 March, 2015
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@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?

jjp. Do you have any event or party pictures, photos or video with your entire passive jbl (srx722, stx828) setup and amps rack ?

im aware that you do not have the jbl srx828 yet.
desmorider 10:34 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Desmorider have you demoed the srx 815 powered and if so When ??? how can you prove the Rcf art 745a sounds better ?? When did yku do the shoot out!!im anxious to hear your Response??and Expertice???


Dude calm down. Where did I say that the 745a was better then the 815. Read what i said again. I will repeat for those that didn't comprehend. "If the 815p falls short, tske a look at the 745a". The If is the big thing here. I never said it has fallen short. The guy said thst he was looking for a top that could come close to or match a zxa5. Andvthe 745a does that. No brand fan boy here. I also said that i hope this series hit the mark, because i van get great pricing. You should read and comprehend before you speak. Your coming off as a fan boy here.
desmorider 10:50 AM - 17 March, 2015
@jjp,

Do your research bro. Jbl's own literature state that the low frequency drivers are ferrite. Yet you come on here spitting about neo this and neo that. Do you even know what the fuck you spent your money on? Or were you so overwhelmed and excited that sub made you pant leg, and insides shake? Get a grip. Your not dealing with a bunch of new jack rookies here that get impressed with manufacturers specs and what they say to sell gear. We look at the specs, analyze them, and if something seems out of line, we speak on it. That is all that is being done here. Everyone wants this to be a fantastic line of new speakers from jbl. Time will tell.
Joee 11:20 AM - 17 March, 2015
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Looking for a powered top that can come close to ZXA5 or better in the price range of ETX and SRX. Am hoping this JBL SRX815P will deliver. The passive srx715 is a beast. Fingers crossed.

i would look into the art 745--> www.rcf.it
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Do your research bro. Jbl's own literature state that the low frequency drivers are ferrite.

you beat me to the 745 recondition ……lol

i think the horn has the neo driver? not tho woofer?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:26 PM - 17 March, 2015
Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?
desmorider 12:35 PM - 17 March, 2015
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Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?



Really??????????????
Joee 12:45 PM - 17 March, 2015
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Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?

that dude must be bipolar with all the profiles he has
pdidy 4:02 PM - 17 March, 2015
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Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?

The_Black_One understands english.

JJP - English is second language, has difficulty understanding and speaking it, is (possibly) translating our text to spanish which is likely causing his inability to understand the context by which we speak.

for example when i asked "@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?" His replies showed that he did not understand the question or the meaning of passive. The_Black_One would have understood.
JJP 4:24 PM - 17 March, 2015
Pdiddy maybe you are the one that has ESL Problem I Never said I dont Understand I Said I dont have the New Subs I Ordered Them !! I am in the Proccess of getting rid of all my STX for the Srx !! Calme down !!!Mr Esl Calm Down!!I Desmorider chill bro !!!Your comment can be Taken a Million ways !!you said that if the Jbl Srx 815p falls Short then take a look at the RCF art 745 and that my Friend to manny people can mean that your saying that if one speaker fails the other one will sound better !!but dont get angry Geesh !!!Like i said go Demo them !!then you will understand !!!I can assure once again people commenting here Have not Demowd them and Keep Making things up!!!
JJP 4:30 PM - 17 March, 2015
Pdiddy !!Hella funny and nope im not translating anything to Spanish most of this Comments are from my phone!!No auto Correct and no Translation needed here !!its just that im always Talking to Somebody or Hitting the wrong keys on my Galaxy phone!!!
Joee 4:32 PM - 17 March, 2015
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and Keep Making things up!!!

there specs are not made up, it right there for you to see in black & white on JBL's website 1000W Peak, 750W Continuous, that spec makes no sense the numbers don't add up
www.jblpro.com
JJP 4:33 PM - 17 March, 2015
Me Personally I Like the Meyer Stuff !!but its very Expensive so thats out of the Question!!
JJP 4:43 PM - 17 March, 2015
Joee you are Right that is the Single 18 inch cabinet !!!I never mentioned the Srx 818!!I posted the SRX 828 Dual 18 !!!its Double that Number but yeah I Agree with you !!!Im not going to comment on the Srx 818 !!Because i have not heard it !! I can Only comment on what I have Heard and I Heard the Srx 815powered on top of the Srx 828 powered double 18 !!I believe once Again They have Focused on Efficiency in the Speakers ! Thats the key with The latest Crown Technology!!! Thats How they Acchieved 141 db On A Dual 18 inch Speaker with only 2000 Watts!!
JJP 4:51 PM - 17 March, 2015
Peace To Everybody im Just Sharing my Experiences with this New Jbl Boxes!! I have to Admit i was one of the first ones that Did not believe the Claims !!!Because Jbl Has Always Been Power Hungry the stx 828 i Used Neede a 8000 watt amp Just to power 2 of them to maximum Output level!!so when Jbl claims that with 4000 watts They will achieve the same output level or more ! I was Not a Believer So i went and did a demo and as Fake as it sounds they did performe!!
desmorider 4:54 PM - 17 March, 2015
You say that im making judgements on the 815, and that's the furthest thing from what im saying. Your the one bugging out and getting upset about the above discussions. We are having open discussion on the specs that are posted by the manufacturer. No ones pullings stats out of their ass, the specs are posted. If we feel that the stats look strange, we have the right to talk about it. I NEVER said that the 745a was better then the 815. I haven't heard it. Just because you busted a nut when you heard the new speakers, doesn't mean that everyone that hears the srx800 series will feel the same way. Do you work for the Harmon Group, or were you that kid that got pissed off at the playground when your friends didn't want to play the game you picked for the group.
pdidy 4:58 PM - 17 March, 2015
Well if he is actually English-speaking then he still has some issues with reading comprehension. But clearly theres something weird going on with him maybe he's just trolling in a weird way......lol
desmorider 5:03 PM - 17 March, 2015
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Joee you are Right that is the Single 18 inch cabinet !!!I never mentioned the Srx 818!!I posted the SRX 828 Dual 18 !!!its Double that Number but yeah I Agree with you !!!Im not going to comment on the Srx 818 !!Because i have not heard it !! I can Only comment on what I have Heard and I Heard the Srx 815powered on top of the Srx 828 powered double 18 !!I believe once Again They have Focused on Efficiency in the Speakers ! Thats the key with The latest Crown Technology!!! Thats How they Acchieved 141 db On A Dual 18 inch Speaker with only 2000 Watts!!


The link to the srx828 specs was also posted. I thought you said the non-existing Neo woofers also contributed to the 141db spl. Have fun with your new subs shaking your intestines and moving your pant leg.
Joee 5:04 PM - 17 March, 2015
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Joee you are Right that is the Single 18 inch cabinet !!!I never mentioned the Srx 818!!I posted the SRX 828 Dual 18

the 818 & the 828 have the same exact woofer
JJP 5:09 PM - 17 March, 2015
Desmorider calm down !!you sound like a Girl with PMS!!!calm down bro!!! OK WE we got it just calm down !!!!!geesh!! And Yes The dual 18 shares the same Speaker But i have not heard it !!Just the dual 18 !!
Joee 5:13 PM - 17 March, 2015
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And Yes The dual 18 shares the same Speaker But i have not heard it !!Just the dual 18 !!

right along with same amp module , i'm just saying there specs do not add up


818
1000W Peak, 750W Continuous


828
2000W Peak (1000W x 2), 1500W continuous (750W x 2)


usually will will see something like
1000W Peak, 5000W Continuous
JJP 5:21 PM - 17 March, 2015
Joee Usually its like this 8000 watts Peak = 4000 watts Programed =2000 Rms !!!! This Means That a Speaker will play 2000 watts All night and play 4000 Watts With Carefulness and the 8000 watts Only at peaks For like a Second thats Peak Play 8000 watts on a Speaker for longer then 1 Second And Bye bye speaker!!!
JJP 5:23 PM - 17 March, 2015
The number usually Doubles When you start fron Rms and Up!!
desmorider 5:26 PM - 17 March, 2015
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And Yes The dual 18 shares the same Speaker But i have not heard it !!Just the dual 18 !!

right along with same amp module , i'm just saying there specs do not add up


818
1000W Peak, 750W Continuous


828
2000W Peak (1000W x 2), 1500W continuous (750W x 2)


usually will will see something like
1000W Peak, 500W Continuous



fixed
JJP 5:27 PM - 17 March, 2015
My Jbl Stx 828 play 2000 watts Rms !!and i like 4000 watts Per Cabinet double the power just for Perfect Headroom!!!
Joee 5:33 PM - 17 March, 2015
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And Yes The dual 18 shares the same Speaker But i have not heard it !!Just the dual 18 !!

right along with same amp module , i'm just saying there specs do not add up


818
1000W Peak, 750W Continuous


828
2000W Peak (1000W x 2), 1500W continuous (750W x 2)


usually will will see something like
1000W Peak, 500W Continuous



fixed

not to mention that the srx828 a double 18" cost the same as the vrx918sp a single 18"


now i'm not saying anything bad about this new srx828 it a double 18" moving a lot of air i'm sure the bass will be NICE……i'm just saying as pdidy pointed out the numbers on the spec sheet don't add up
JJP 5:58 PM - 17 March, 2015
Joee can you please send me a Link where does it say 1000 watts peak and 750 Continuous??i have not seen that and im lpoking for it??
JJP 6:00 PM - 17 March, 2015
??????
JJP 6:10 PM - 17 March, 2015
I have seen the Srx 818 sp 1000 watts Claim but where does it say its 750 watts Rms I Havent seen that??can anybody provide a Link???
Joee 6:24 PM - 17 March, 2015
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Joee can you please send me a Link where does it say 1000 watts peak and 750 Continuous??i have not seen that and im lpoking for it??

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com
desmorider 6:56 PM - 17 March, 2015
Damn it's clown season
JJP 7:36 PM - 17 March, 2015
Joee i see it !!! Yeah i agree the numbers dont add !!Maybe ill call Jbl and ask them why thats like that!!!
JJP 7:39 PM - 17 March, 2015
Joee !!The Specs on the link you send !!!!I Agree with you it dosent make sense!!!!!
Johnnynights 7:52 PM - 17 March, 2015
Let me tell you guys something i owned the yamaha dxr12s and now i have the jbl srx815p,from testing my speakers the yamahas are very good they hang in there i cant say anything bad about them i would even buy them again thats how great they are...however the srx815p are louder and better but heavier....this last weekend gig i did with them they seemed to keep up with my ls801p very well seems like they can handle 2 of them....i was using the 100hz crossover built in the srx815p by the way...
Johnnynights 7:55 PM - 17 March, 2015
Im no expert at explaining but im going to do a video about them very soon lets see if i can help out.

Do i recommend them.... yes

Any problems i found so far on them...no
desmorider 8:02 PM - 17 March, 2015
Good to hear. How long was the gig? How many people? Did you get a chance to feel the amp heatsink? Cold, warm, hot? Thanks for all the info man. The dxr12 has a lot of bottom end. I know the 815 is a 15in, but does it seem to have a lot more bottom then the dxr12? Thanks again.
SELECT 8:29 PM - 17 March, 2015
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Let me tell you guys something i owned the yamaha dxr12s and now i have the jbl srx815p,from testing my speakers the yamahas are very good they hang in there i cant say anything bad about them i would even buy them again thats how great they are...however the srx815p are louder and better but heavier....this last weekend gig i did with them they seemed to keep up with my ls801p very well seems like they can handle 2 of them....i was using the 100hz crossover built in the srx815p by the way...


Great, what was your master level set at on the Rane 62?
rayjthedj 8:31 PM - 17 March, 2015
The new amp modules in lots of these new active boxes are very efficient, and I have been told that the way the amps work with the new DSP modules, you can't rate them the old way we all learned on passive stuff (RMS, Continuous Program and Peak, (all numbers doubling as you move up). Why, because the DSP is better than the processors we have worked with in the past on passive rigs and can be better matched to the driver for both output and protection. High end DSP and more efficient driver design is allowing us to get much more sound out of less amp/power.

High end chip sets used in the concert touring equipment DSP modules have come down in price and that is one of the big reasons we are seeing lots of new, high quality active speakers. We are at the point now where with JBL, RCF, and EV it is just going to be listener choice on what you buy.

If you are really looking for a a shoot out between, ZX5, ETX15, JBL815 and which one is loudest, you aren't going to find huge differences, and if plus or minus a couple DB is the only difference, you don't have enough rig for the gig anyway.

As competitive as the active market is getting, as long as you have good cash and understand a little on gain structure, you can easily put together a better than average DJ system. In the past you had to spend a lot of time in the Yamaha Sound Reinforcement Manual to get your sound right, now it is done for you in a chip set.
JJP 10:09 PM - 17 March, 2015
Thanks for sharing the Information JohnnyNights !! That is What i have been saying all along !!Those JBl Srx 815sp do performe above average!! And Let me Tell you The Yorkville elite ls801p may not be the Bass cabinet with the Best Low Extension Sound but it Sure does Get Loud Very loud i would say Super Loud and for a Midhigh box to Shine on top of that it needs to be very Powerful !!!as Far As The Rms Program and Peak Power Raythe dj I didnt know that!!thanks for the Info !!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:07 AM - 18 March, 2015
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Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?

The_Black_One understands english.

JJP - English is second language, has difficulty understanding and speaking it, is (possibly) translating our text to spanish which is likely causing his inability to understand the context by which we speak.

for example when i asked "@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?" His replies showed that he did not understand the question or the meaning of passive. The_Black_One would have understood.


Hmmm....sumphin just ain't right....

Stay tuned....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:14 AM - 18 March, 2015
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Joee can you please send me a Link where does it say 1000 watts peak and 750 Continuous??i have not seen that and im lpoking for it??

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com


WHOA!

Joee RTMFM!

Props!
Johnnynights 3:21 AM - 18 March, 2015
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Good to hear. How long was the gig? How many people? Did you get a chance to feel the amp heatsink? Cold, warm, hot? Thanks for all the info man. The dxr12 has a lot of bottom end. I know the 815 is a 15in, but does it seem to have a lot more bottom then the dxr12? Thanks again.

The gig was 5 hours,like about 120....Yes i did feel the heatsink it was warm then later i checked again it was nice and cool,seems like after they get hot a bit the inside fan starts automatically...no problems with overheating this past gig also the place didnt have ac functioning and im in cali is pretty hott and they never cut out on me...oh yes it has way more bass i noticed that right away,im going to try the app with my ipad and see if i can get it to hit more because i feel like with one of those dsp settings i can make it kick more.
Johnnynights 3:26 AM - 18 March, 2015
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Let me tell you guys something i owned the yamaha dxr12s and now i have the jbl srx815p,from testing my speakers the yamahas are very good they hang in there i cant say anything bad about them i would even buy them again thats how great they are...however the srx815p are louder and better but heavier....this last weekend gig i did with them they seemed to keep up with my ls801p very well seems like they can handle 2 of them....i was using the 100hz crossover built in the srx815p by the way...


Great, what was your master level set at on the Rane 62?

That day i wasnt using my 62 i was using my sx2 but i had the volume at 7(unity gain),i always seem to use the master at 7 with almost any mixer and just crank the volume in the speakers.
Johnnynights 3:27 AM - 18 March, 2015
Also on the sx2 i run all channel gains green no yellows and it sounds loud and clear at high volumes.
Johnnynights 3:30 AM - 18 March, 2015
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Thanks for sharing the Information JohnnyNights !! That is What i have been saying all along !!Those JBl Srx 815sp do performe above average!! And Let me Tell you The Yorkville elite ls801p may not be the Bass cabinet with the Best Low Extension Sound but it Sure does Get Loud Very loud i would say Super Loud and for a Midhigh box to Shine on top of that it needs to be very Powerful !!!as Far As The Rms Program and Peak Power Raythe dj I didnt know that!!thanks for the Info !!!

No prob,yeah so far so good i got a few upcoming outdoor gigs so since its very hot over here in cali it will be a good time to test them out also...my ls801p has been enough for me i dont even need another one,but theres times when i feel like getting one.
SELECT 4:59 AM - 18 March, 2015
I really like what they did with the app. Would love to get a hands on demo with this. Watchwww.youtube.com
JJP 3:11 PM - 18 March, 2015
Select yeah Thanks for the link !!! I cant wait to Receive my Srx Subs! and fire them up with that Software ! I also purchase the Midas M32 Digital Console ! And Amazing Console for live shows.I hate to let go my Stx 828 subwoofers they are a Very amazing Sub very clean and Powerful ! But what made me sell them was just The $2000 and under price that was why i made my move! As good as the Jbl Stx 828 is The price is nowhere near because you need a expensive amp to pump some serious Juice In to them and your cost would be $6000 vs $4000 for 2 subwoofer Set Up!! And The Sound Is very Even ! In the demo we heard it had a Stx 828 powered with a Crown Xti 4002 and A Jbl stx 815 VS a Srx 828 self powered with a Srx 815self powered !!And Believe Me The Srx 828 and The Srx 815 in Mu opinion Sounded Slightley Better!!! now The Comparisson was with Hip Hop Music and im buying mine for Live Bands I Hope that they Hold up in A Real Band Out door gig with A Full Earth wind and Fire !!Type of band set up!!!
pdidy 4:47 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?

The_Black_One understands english.

JJP - English is second language, has difficulty understanding and speaking it, is (possibly) translating our text to spanish which is likely causing his inability to understand the context by which we speak.

for example when i asked "@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?" His replies showed that he did not understand the question or the meaning of passive. The_Black_One would have understood.


Hmmm....sumphin just ain't right....

Stay tuned....

Yep something definitely is not right, I'm trying to decide if he's avoiding my questions or if he really does not understand them.
JJP 6:51 PM - 18 March, 2015
I Think we have A Mis Understandig Pdiddy ! Can You ask Me The Question ones More ! Right now!!What is your Question and I will Answer it This Second!!and please dont put old postings We have talked about so manny things What is your Question once more ill answer it Right now Bro??
DJ GaFFle 7:37 PM - 18 March, 2015
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...As good as the Jbl Stx 828 is The price is nowhere near because you need a expensive amp to pump some serious Juice In to them and your cost would be $6000 vs $4000 for 2 subwoofer Set Up!! And The Sound Is very Even ! In the demo we heard it had a Stx 828 powered with a Crown Xti 4002 and A Jbl stx 815 VS a Srx 828 self powered with a Srx 815self powered !!And Believe Me The Srx 828 and The Srx 815 in Mu opinion Sounded Slightley Better!!! now...

Holy smokes... talk about seriously underpowering those hungry beasts! The STX828 needs 2000W/ch minimum @ 4Ohms and that XTI4002 only does 1200W/ch max. For the demo, did they feed one amp channel to the sub and the other to the STX815 top?

You're 100% correct about them needing serious juice. I wouldn't ever consider the SRX700 or STX series because of their inefficient drivers.
Joee 7:41 PM - 18 March, 2015
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I wouldn't ever consider the SRX700 or STX series because of their inefficient drivers.

the reason i was a ev fan……altho the jbl mp418s sub was pretty nice i used them a lot back in the day
JJP 7:42 PM - 18 March, 2015
Nope Dj Gaffle Let me Explain with Detail!!it was A Crown Xti 4002 Bridge into one Stx 828 thats 3200 watts !!the Stx 828 needs 2000 watts Rms Yet they Gave it 3200 watts Bridge !!Thats Decent Power!!
DJ GaFFle 7:49 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Nope Dj Gaffle Let me Explain with Detail!!it was A Crown Xti 4002 Bridge into one Stx 828 thats 3200 watts !!the Stx 828 needs 2000 watts Rms Yet they Gave it 3200 watts Bridge !!Thats Decent Power!!

Bridged-mono... that answers it.
pdidy 9:05 PM - 18 March, 2015
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I Think we have A Mis Understandig Pdiddy ! Can You ask Me The Question ones More ! Right now!!What is your Question and I will Answer it This Second!!and please dont put old postings We have talked about so manny things What is your Question once more ill answer it Right now Bro??

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@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?

jjp. Do you have any event or party pictures, photos or video with your entire passive jbl (srx722, stx828) setup and amps rack ?

im aware that you do not have the jbl srx828 yet.

¿Tiene alguna fiesta o evento imágenes, fotos o videos con tu entera jbl pasiva ( SRX722 , stx828 ) configuración y amplificadores rack?

im consciente de que usted no tiene la srx828 jbl todavía.
Joee 9:15 PM - 18 March, 2015
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I Think we have A Mis Understandig Pdiddy ! Can You ask Me The Question ones More ! Right now!!What is your Question and I will Answer it This Second!!and please dont put old postings We have talked about so manny things What is your Question once more ill answer it Right now Bro??

Quote:
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@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?

jjp. Do you have any event or party pictures, photos or video with your entire passive jbl (srx722, stx828) setup and amps rack ?

im aware that you do not have the jbl srx828 yet.

¿Tiene alguna fiesta o evento imágenes, fotos o videos con tu entera jbl pasiva ( SRX722 , stx828 ) configuración y amplificadores rack?

im consciente de que usted no tiene la srx828 jbl todavía.

no you didn't
pdidy 9:20 PM - 18 March, 2015
^^^Just trying to eliminate any further "Mis Understandig"....lol
Joee 9:23 PM - 18 March, 2015
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^^^Just trying to eliminate any further "Mis Understandig"....lol


lol…..


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estoy consciente de que usted no tiene la srx828 jbl todavía.


fixed
pdidy 9:28 PM - 18 March, 2015
thanks...lol
desmorider 9:43 PM - 18 March, 2015
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I Think we have A Mis Understandig Pdiddy ! Can You ask Me The Question ones More ! Right now!!What is your Question and I will Answer it This Second!!and please dont put old postings We have talked about so manny things What is your Question once more ill answer it Right now Bro??

Quote:
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@ jjp. Do you have any event pics with your entire Jbl passive setup and amps ?

jjp. Do you have any event or party pictures, photos or video with your entire passive jbl (srx722, stx828) setup and amps rack ?

im aware that you do not have the jbl srx828 yet.

¿Tiene alguna fiesta o evento imágenes, fotos o videos con tu entera jbl pasiva ( SRX722 , stx828 ) configuración y amplificadores rack?

im consciente de que usted no tiene la srx828 jbl todavía.


Classic shit right thurr.

I was wondering how many times you would have to ask the question before getting a response. Good luck.
JJP 10:02 PM - 18 March, 2015
I Have Pictures of both the Srx 722 and 828 sub! And thi mini Vertec 4886 !!The Amps Im not so sure but I am convice That some one has A Reading Problem !I Have never Said That i Have The Srx 828 !!So please get your eyes Check !!!
JJP 10:09 PM - 18 March, 2015
Guys I dont have the Srx 828 i never said i Did !!I said I Ordered Them ! and yes I do have Pictures Of the Speakers im not sure about the amp racks I Might!!!ill check
JJP 10:16 PM - 18 March, 2015
Once again if it didnt get into your Head !! I Ordered the Speakers I dont Have Them !! O-R -D-E-R-E-D D-O-N-T H-A-V-E-D T. -H-E-M Y-E-T !!!!!!Do you want me to say it Again !!And Yes I Do Have Pictures!!
desmorider 10:17 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Guys I dont have the Srx 828 i never said i Did !!I said I Ordered Them ! and yes I do have Pictures Of the Speakers im not sure about the amp racks I Might!!!ill check


We know that you don't have the srx828. Diddy was asking about the unpowered(passive) stx828 that you have mentioned on this thread.

R.I.F.
pdidy 10:18 PM - 18 March, 2015
i THINK its pretty clear to everyone that JJP does not read english very well which is fine. it just makes it very difficult to communicate.
JJP 10:21 PM - 18 March, 2015
Yeah you want to see my System ill send you a Picture Whats your Email ill sent it now!!
JJP 10:21 PM - 18 March, 2015
I dont post Pictures to Public Only Email!!
pdidy 10:24 PM - 18 March, 2015
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I dont post Pictures to Public Only Email!!

ok
JJP 10:28 PM - 18 March, 2015
Im Working !!I dont Sit in a Couch and text all Day!!So Just give me A Email and ill send you some Pictures its not that Hard is it Pdidy !!come on you can do it !!Its very Easy .Email=Picture
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:28 PM - 18 March, 2015
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no you didn't


Talk about covering all your bases...

Well played sir...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:30 PM - 18 March, 2015
JJP 10:30 PM - 18 March, 2015
If Anybody wants to see my System Sure no Problem Just Give me A Email!!
pdidy 10:31 PM - 18 March, 2015
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no you didn't


Talk about covering all your bases...

Well played sir...

I tried but still failed a lil....lol

Do you think theblackone could play act this persona that well ?
pdidy 10:32 PM - 18 March, 2015
pdidypdidy@yahoo.com
JJP 10:34 PM - 18 March, 2015
Sure Pdidy ill send it to you !!But please Dont Share !!Its for security Purposes!!
pdidy 10:36 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Sure Pdidy ill send it to you !!But please Dont Share !!Its for security Purposes!!

cool no problem
desmorider 10:48 PM - 18 March, 2015
nyjamziii@gmail.com
JJP 10:50 PM - 18 March, 2015
Sure desmorider coming up!!For You pdidy got his Pictures and he can tell you im sure he is Convinced
Joee 10:53 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Sure desmorider coming up!!For You pdidy got his Pictures and he can tell you im sure he is Convinced

i'm not understanding this hole won't post pics thing! what security risk are there from posting a pic?

watch how easy it is let me post some pics
imageshack.com

imageshack.com

imageshack.com

see there no security risk at all
JJP 11:06 PM - 18 March, 2015
Joee wow what a Girl !!Pdiddy did you get the Pictures!!
JJP 11:06 PM - 18 March, 2015
P diddy did you get the picture come on Bro dont let me down??
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:07 PM - 18 March, 2015
john@djjohnnym.com

Me Too!
JJP 11:07 PM - 18 March, 2015
Joee i cant believe what you did !!!Im glad Ur not in my area!!!because your next stop would be A Hospital!!
Joee 11:13 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Joee wow what a Girl !!Pdiddy did you get the Pictures!!

i'm glad you realize you're being one :)

around these parts we like to say pics or it did't happen……but than again you know that ….right luis


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Joee i cant believe what you did !!!Im glad Ur not in my area!!!because your next stop would be A Hospital!!

bawhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha


surly i would be in the hospital……………i would be LOL so much i might run out of breath


BAWHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAAHAHAHA
JJP 11:16 PM - 18 March, 2015
Pdidy can you please help me Out With This Bitch by the name of Joee!!More like Hoee!!
JJP 11:19 PM - 18 March, 2015
Pdiddy ?????
Joee 11:21 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Pdidy can you please help me Out With This Bitch by the name of Joee!!More like Hoee!!

man your emotional …….you know thats a female tendency right?
pdidy 11:24 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Pdiddy ?????

Yes I did receive the pics of stx828, srx722 and
VT 4886 line array.

im at work so it may take me long to reply.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:25 PM - 18 March, 2015
Pics?
Joee 11:27 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Pdiddy ?????

Yes I did receive the pics of stx828, srx722 and
VT 4886 line array.

im at work so it may take me long to reply.

post them jawns!
pdidy 11:28 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Pdiddy ?????

Yes I did receive the pics of stx828, srx722 and
VT 4886 line array.

im at work so it may take me long to reply.

post them jawns!

naa, i wouldn't break my word
Joee 11:28 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Pics?

man start it off JM …post them pics of yur old system in the driveway!
Joee 11:29 PM - 18 March, 2015
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naa, i wouldn't break my word

i missed that part……

if you did would you end up in the hospital?
desmorider 11:31 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Joee i cant believe what you did !!!Im glad Ur not in my area!!!because your next stop would be A Hospital!!



What did he do that would land him in hospital around your way? Also where is around your way? Are you in usa?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:32 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Pics?

man start it off JM …post them pics of yur old system in the driveway!


BAM!

www.djjohnnym.com
Joee 11:33 PM - 18 March, 2015
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What did he do that would land him in hospital around your way? Also where is around your way? Are you in usa?

i posted somme pics

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Sure desmorider coming up!!For You pdidy got his Pictures and he can tell you im sure he is Convinced

i'm not understanding this hole won't post pics thing! what security risk are there from posting a pic?

watch how easy it is let me post some pics
imageshack.com

can i hire you as a security guard ? i see u have a gun in your sig/avatar

imageshack.com

imageshack.com

see there no security risk at all
pdidy 11:33 PM - 18 March, 2015
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naa, i wouldn't break my word

i missed that part……

if you did would you end up in the hospital?

lol....naa

but i do have morals so i cant
Joee 11:35 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Pics?

man start it off JM …post them pics of yur old system in the driveway!


BAM!

www.djjohnnym.com

WORD!……..


see JJP…..we can post pic of our gear


pics or it didn't happen!!!!!!!
pdidy 11:37 PM - 18 March, 2015
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What did he do that would land him in hospital around your way?

i have no idea, im still lost as to why.

it would be crazy if it was just the pics of his own system ??????
Joee 11:37 PM - 18 March, 2015
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lol....naa

but i do have morals so i cant

still it's would be funny right…..


JJP ……i'm going to bed stuy brooklyn i'm going to find that pdidy & put him in the hospital
Joee 11:39 PM - 18 March, 2015
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i have no idea, im still lost as to why.

it would be crazy if it was just the pics of his own system ??????

that was it……check it


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i'm not understanding this hole won't post pics thing! what security risk are there from posting a pic?

watch how easy it is let me post some pics
imageshack.com

imageshack.com

imageshack.com

see there no security risk at all
pdidy 11:42 PM - 18 March, 2015
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that was it……check it

it must have been a "Mis Understandig"
Joee 11:44 PM - 18 March, 2015
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it must have been a "Mis Understandig"

you think google translator didn't translate correctly ……..LOL
desmorider 11:44 PM - 18 March, 2015
Maybe he's just a tad bit soft and thinks that someone will step to him and Run His Shit. Or maybe he's like a secret agent man or something.

Joee, i got you bro. Im in the south, and we celebrate that heat. Not like when i was on strong island.
JJP 11:44 PM - 18 March, 2015
They Have Broken into my Garage 2 times and Thats when i posted Alot of pictures in Public places So Im More Protective!!With things i post in Public !!Sorry dont mean to offend Anyone!! Just makes me feel better !!
Joee 11:45 PM - 18 March, 2015
should i have said it in spanish?
desmorider 11:46 PM - 18 March, 2015
Still never got the pics
Joee 11:46 PM - 18 March, 2015
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Sorry dont mean to offend Anyone!! Just makes me feel better !!

your not offending anyone……your actually entertaining
Joee 11:47 PM - 18 March, 2015
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They Have Broken into my Garage 2 times

you know the make alarms right?
Joee 11:48 PM - 18 March, 2015
^ pdidy i'm coming for your VRX system…….RUN IT!!!!!!!
JJP 11:58 PM - 18 March, 2015
Here in Los Angeles California and Sorounding Areas Alarms dont mean nothing !!Specialley With Gangsters With Guns !!Wow Joee some people Just never grew after 10 years Old!!
pdidy 11:59 PM - 18 March, 2015
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^ pdidy i'm coming for your VRX system…….RUN IT!!!!!!!

apparently ive never been concerned considering all the pics ive posted.....lol
Joee 12:00 AM - 19 March, 2015
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Joee some people Just never grew after 10 years Old!!

i can see that you suffer from this problem :)
JJP 12:03 AM - 19 March, 2015
Joee i dont think you have the Brains To See That!!!
desmorider 12:03 AM - 19 March, 2015
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They Have Broken into my Garage 2 times and Thats when i posted Alot of pictures in Public places So Im More Protective!!With things i post in Public !!Sorry dont mean to offend Anyone!! Just makes me feel better !!



Maybe you should be investing in some heat or fighting lessons instead of subs. Just sayin.
JJP 12:05 AM - 19 March, 2015
Maybe Desmorider maybe !!I will keep it in Mind!!
Joee 12:07 AM - 19 March, 2015
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Joee i dont think you have the Brains To See That!!!

out of the three people in this pic……witch one is you?
s1285.photobucket.com

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Maybe Desmorider maybe !!I will keep it in Mind!!

man stop fronton you know your to sweet for that
pdidy 12:10 AM - 19 March, 2015
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Forget those VRXs. I'm comin for those LS801Ps

too late, i sold all my yorkville speakers..... i26.photobucket.com
desmorider 12:13 AM - 19 March, 2015
The ksg in my pic protects a piece of real estate pretty well. Have to have different choices for different threats. Just like different speaker setups for different gigs. JJP you know what i mean. Like different jbl setups. Your understanding and comprehension seems to be alot better today. Were you blazing trees or drinking yesterday? Or are you just letting you seed respond and type for you today?
JJP 12:15 AM - 19 March, 2015
Pdiddy the Yorkvilles are Loud I just never realley Felt A Nice Low Frequency Response !!You Know That Realley Nice Sweet Low End !!It Sounds Alott like the Cerwin Vega Horn loaded Cabs Just very loud but not To Musical
DJ GaFFle 12:18 AM - 19 March, 2015
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Pdidy can you please help me Out With This Bitch by the name of Joee!!More like Hoee!!

man your emotional …….you know thats a female tendency right?

cdn.yourepeat.com

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Joee i dont think you have the Brains To See That!!!

cdn.yourepeat.com

This forum is a consistent source of comedy.
:-)
JJP 12:19 AM - 19 March, 2015
I Text out of my Galaxy Phone !!Very hard to see everything its not like a Laptop or Home Computer its a Diffrent Format!! Very hard to see everything thats Happening in the Chat Room
Joee 12:20 AM - 19 March, 2015
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Pdidy can you please help me Out With This Bitch by the name of Joee!!More like Hoee!!

man your emotional …….you know thats a female tendency right?

cdn.yourepeat.com

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Joee i dont think you have the Brains To See That!!!

cdn.yourepeat.com

This forum is a consistent source of comedy.
:-)

he hasn't answered yet

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Joee i dont think you have the Brains To See That!!!

out of the three people in this pic……witch one is you?
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JJP 12:20 AM - 19 March, 2015
But I Respect Yorkies!!Just abecause they are loud
desmorider 12:46 AM - 19 March, 2015
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lol....naa

but i do have morals so i cant

still it's would be funny right…..


JJP ……i'm going to bed stuy brooklyn i'm going to find that pdidy & put him in the hospital



"Live from bed-ford-stuyvesant the livest one"
desmorider 12:48 AM - 19 March, 2015
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They Have Broken into my Garage 2 times and Thats when i posted Alot of pictures in Public places So Im More Protective!!With things i post in Public !!Sorry dont mean to offend Anyone!! Just makes me feel better !!


"Hands in the air now, hands in the air. RUN-IT"
Joee 12:58 AM - 19 March, 2015
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"Hands in the air now, hands in the air. RUN-IT"

he must be watching empire
pdidy 1:08 AM - 19 March, 2015
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"Live from bed-ford-stuyvesant the livest one"

"Representing BK to the fullest"
Fun fact, Biggie live right around the corner from me in 1994 when he put out "Ready to Die"


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Pdiddy the Yorkvilles are Loud I just never realley Felt A Nice Low Frequency Response !!You Know That Realley Nice Sweet Low End !!It Sounds Alott like the Cerwin Vega Horn loaded Cabs Just very loud but not To Musical


Yorkvilles are so loud that most people have no idea or even miss the fact that they don't go very low. The few people that do know are usually other sound-men that own high-end systems. Most of my DJ friends and partners had NO IDEA what LOW was till they heard my current VRX subs.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:47 AM - 19 March, 2015
I saw this train wreck a mile away. This dude is the worst.
JJP 2:56 AM - 19 March, 2015
Pdidy you are Right !!one thing those yorkvilles Have is that they are Very loud!!and thats Enough for most People!!
Joee 10:17 AM - 19 March, 2015
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Pdidy you are Right !!one thing those yorkvilles Have is that they are Very loud!!

you said that already


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But I Respect Yorkies!!Just abecause they are loud
popnfizz 11:11 AM - 19 March, 2015
A long time lurker and first time poster here.

I'm currently debating if I should go for a SRX828SP for $1700 or a used VRX918SP for $1500 or if I should just get another PRX715XLF and save myself some cash...(or maybe the ETX-18SP??) or should I just invest in better tops?

Backstory: I have a pair EV ZLX12Ps and a PRX715XLF. I'm more a hobbyist who loves his bass and occasionally will have a gig at a bar and friends events (been going out to the desert lately for some jams out in nature around 20-30 people). I live on the second floor of my complex so its only me that's hauling this equipment (so Yorkies are out of the question - though with the 828SP I will still need help). While I do want loudness, quality of bass still trumps for me.

I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks guys.
JJP 4:46 PM - 19 March, 2015
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A long time lurker and first time poster here.

I'm currently debating if I should go for a SRX828SP for $1700 or a used VRX918SP for $1500 or if I should just get another PRX715XLF and save myself some cash...(or maybe the ETX-18SP??) or should I just invest in better tops?

Backstory: I have a pair EV ZLX12Ps and a PRX715XLF. I'm more a hobbyist who loves his bass and occasionally will have a gig at a bar and friends events (been going out to the desert lately for some jams out in nature around 20-30 people). I live on the second floor of my complex so its only me that's hauling this equipment (so Yorkies are out of the question - though with the 828SP I will still need help). While I do want loudness, quality of bass still trumps for me.

I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks guys.

Popnfizz I Have Played With a lot Of Vrx And they are Nice With Perfect low end But me Personalley I Would Go with The Srx 828 It Has Higher output and More Features! and There About the same Price keep in Mind The Vrx Is about 11 Years Old !!I think this Srx 828 is gonna hurt every Jbl speaker Sales!!The Prx 715xlf I heard it once Very nice sound But to me it lacks High Output for big Gigs! And the 15 inch Driver just dosent cut it for me ! The EV Etx is Very nice also It has Nice Deep low end Just Like The Jbl PRX 718Xlf. I think for nice deep Low end You cant go wrong with either one!!! But Like I Said go demo the Srx 828 !!And I think its Game Over for Every speaker in the $2000 and under Price!!!Keep in Mind Its Not A Fair Comparison The Jbl Srx 828 is A Beast But its A Double 18 and not a Single Driver Box!either way Let us Know On Your Decision!!
ureiguy 6:29 PM - 19 March, 2015
Hey All - first time poster here...been trying to get support info on these speakers and found this thread.

I recently purchased a pair of the SRX812Ps, and they sound pretty fantastic.
My friend has the EV ETX15Ps (which also sound great), and I was about to get the 12" version of those, when this new SRX800 line got announced. I decided to go JBL because 1) the specs/frequency response looked slightly superior to the EVs, and 2) that iOS app where you can tune the JBLs looks AWESOME.

Only problem is...the iOS app (which apparently is called SRX Connect) has not been released yet...and if you want to use HiQ net, that requires Windows and more $$ (I am a Mac user). Anyone here know what's up, or experiencing the same thing?

Until this app is available, I am not able to access one of the main features that made me buy these. I specifically am wanting to test the bass response of these, but cannot really affect the EQ.
desmorider 6:44 PM - 19 March, 2015
Jjp,

Did you ever send the pics to my email?
JJP 6:46 PM - 19 March, 2015
Here they go Desmorider!
JJP 6:52 PM - 19 March, 2015
Desmorider i cant find your email can you Send it again!! I Send The Pictures to pdidy but shoot me your Email ones more!!I have the Pictures available in my Phone right Now!!
JJP 7:41 PM - 19 March, 2015
Desmorider i Founf your email i sent like 3 or 4 pictures to your email did you get them ????
SELECT 8:24 PM - 19 March, 2015
What is the input level reading on the SRX speakers when you have them cranked up. Is it going over or under the threshold?
desmorider 9:06 PM - 19 March, 2015
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What is the input level reading on the SRX speakers when you have them cranked up. Is it going over or under the threshold?


I got the pics. Nice stuff man.
desmorider 9:07 PM - 19 March, 2015
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Desmorider i Founf your email i sent like 3 or 4 pictures to your email did you get them ????



I got the pics. Nice stuff man.
JJP 9:59 PM - 19 March, 2015
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Desmorider i Founf your email i sent like 3 or 4 pictures to your email did you get them ????



I got the pics. Nice stuff man.

Cool Bro im Glad you like them and like i said Before i sold all my Stx 828 subs i hope this Srx 828 dont let me down!!The shoot out we did was Very close ! But the Price favoured the Srx 828 so I Order theM !!The bad Thing is The Jbls Are out of stock til the end of the month !!!Dam it !!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:20 PM - 19 March, 2015
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Jjp,

Did you ever send the pics to my email?


I'm still waiting as well...
JJP 10:22 PM - 19 March, 2015
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Jjp,

Did you ever send the pics to my email?


I'm still waiting as well...

Sure ill send them right now!!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:24 PM - 19 March, 2015
Cool john@djjohnnym.com

Thanks!
JJP 11:04 PM - 19 March, 2015
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Cool john@djjohnnym.com

Thanks!

Did you get them !!and if so What do you think ???you like them
pdidy 1:38 AM - 20 March, 2015
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Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?


Hmmm....sumphin just ain't right....

Stay tuned....


I did a lil back ground check on him and I can confirm that he's real.
DJKayce 2:53 AM - 20 March, 2015
So guys, any verdict on the SRX815? My local store is still waiting on the orders but its available everywhere online. Am waiting on some good reviews.
JJP 3:16 AM - 20 March, 2015
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Y'all know JJP = The_Black_One = mastermind.....right?


Hmmm....sumphin just ain't right....

Stay tuned....

I did a lil back ground check on him and I can confirm that he's real.

Ja ja ja!!thanks Bro ! I just hope that People understand That I text out of my phone !and most of the times im at Work !!so Hard To text and Work !and yeah !My stuff is Legit!!but thanks Anyway!!
JJP 3:23 AM - 20 March, 2015
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Cool john@djjohnnym.com

Thanks!

Did you get the pictures !!and if so what do you think??
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:27 AM - 20 March, 2015
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Cool john@djjohnnym.com

Thanks!

Did you get the pictures !!and if so what do you think??


Yes I did, and you WON.

Props on that system....
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:27 AM - 20 March, 2015
Pdidy, u see that *ish?
pdidy 4:42 AM - 20 March, 2015
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Pdidy, u see that *ish?

yep, so im guessing you were just as surprised as I was considering his suspicious nature.....lol
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:56 AM - 20 March, 2015
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Pdidy, u see that *ish?


yep, so im guessing you were just as surprised as I was considering his suspicious nature.....lol


Yep....

Sumphin is still off, but he get the benefit of the doubt for now....
Joee 1:44 PM - 20 March, 2015
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Sumphin is still off, but he get the benefit of the doubt for now....

this
JJP 2:30 PM - 20 March, 2015
Wow some People just cant Understand !!Joee i Know We Got on out on the Wrong foot send me A email and I Will Send You the Pictures Of all my systems I mentioned before!!!My Srx 728 with my Srx 722 !!Then I sold My Srx 728 Sub to Buy a Better Stx 828sub But i still kep my Srx 722 ! Then I Bought my Minii Vertec top to be used with the Stx 828 Sub and Now Im alittle Scare that my New Srx 828 I Ordered dont performe as good as The Stx 828 in a Real World Situation !!On the Demo Room they did so well ! Just have to bring them out on a Big Show and Dind out
JJP 2:37 PM - 20 March, 2015
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Pdidy, u see that *ish?

Thanks For The Recognition Guys !!I must admit for a Second I was Wondering What am doing arguing with this Guys !!what do I Need to Proove and Why!!!my begining statement was I demoed the Jbl SRX 828 And I was Impressed and Thats All I wanted To say !!I didnt mean to offend anybody and If You guys Just go Here the Speaker Then I Can Assure you That Its Beast of Speaker !!And That was It But im Glad we are Cool Now!!!
Joee 2:59 PM - 20 March, 2015
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Wow some People just cant Understand !!Joee i Know We Got on out on the Wrong foot

ay…….i don't know why you were mad, i'm wit you i believe the srx828 is going to be a beast of a speaker two 18" moving a lot of air in a big box….can you say Big Bass

i was just saying there specs weren't adding up & it's kind of crazy that you can get a double 18" jbl (srx828) for the same price as a single 18" jbl (vrx918) when the vrx is basically a powered version of the older srx line
JJP 3:56 PM - 20 March, 2015
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Wow some People just cant Understand !!Joee i Know We Got on out on the Wrong foot

ay…….i don't know why you were mad, i'm wit you i believe the srx828 is going to be a beast of a speaker two 18" moving a lot of air in a big box….can you say Big Bass

i was just saying there specs weren't adding up & it's kind of crazy that you can get a double 18" jbl (srx828) for the same price as a single 18" jbl (vrx918) when the vrx is basically a powered version of the older srx line

YEAH Joee But remember one thing The Vrx 918 came out About 11 years Ago and it was A Sub Designed to Compliment the Vrx 932 Semi Line Array So The Price Had to Be Up there!The Vrx sounds Very Good But Its A Single 18 and The Srx828 us a Dual!!! So i would put my money in the Srx 828!!as Much as the Vrx Sounds Good I think the Srx 828 sounds just as good!!But it has More Features and more Horesepower for Bigger shows !!and i Agree with you !!you would have to spend twice as Much Money on the Vrx 918 single 18 powered to get the Same Sound as the Dual Srx 828 Dual 18 Powered!!maybe Jbl Created a Beast thats going to hurt the sales of every Sub Cab they make !!they Might have shot themselfs in the foot!!
dj jamalot 2:01 AM - 26 March, 2015
These new SRX powered subs just might make me sell off my 728s and get these they look pretty sick...
sig916 7:24 AM - 26 March, 2015
Need more reviews on the srx800 please!
Rebelguy 3:02 PM - 26 March, 2015
Here's a quote from a comparison on sound forums.net between:

EV ETX
JBL SRX800
Presonus Studiolive AI PA

"We ended up going with the EV ETX cabinets. Again this is for rental needs and was looking for something better than the plastic powered speakers out there. The ETX18SP was actually the best sub of the bunch and the EV ETX 12P was the best choice to match up with that sub. We weren't completely sold with it but none of the tops were that great. We ended up putting the EV top in "Music" mode instead of live and that sounded slightly better and helped make the choice easier. The JBL SRX812P sounded similar to the EV but with a little more harshness in the midrange. The JBL SRX818 sub had a very aggresive limiter that kicked in early and held for longer than it should. We also looked at some Presonus AI live cabinets, the high end was the nicest of the bunch but also seemed to be light in this area compared to EV ETX, JBL SRX800, Yamaha DXR and Nexo PS10-R2(reference). It also seemed to step back as far as imaging where as the other cabs all seemed to be right in front of you."
Joee 3:55 PM - 26 March, 2015
so these new srx800 powered speakers may be just like the prx700 was, a little lack luster (minus the 18" sub it knocks)
JJP 4:11 PM - 26 March, 2015
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Here's a quote from a comparison on sound forums.net between:

EV ETX
JBL SRX800
Presonus Studiolive AI PA

"We ended up going with the EV ETX cabinets. Again this is for rental needs and was looking for something better than the plastic powered speakers out there. The ETX18SP was actually the best sub of the bunch and the EV ETX 12P was the best choice to match up with that sub. We weren't completely sold with it but none of the tops were that great. We ended up putting the EV top in "Music" mode instead of live and that sounded slightly better and helped make the choice easier. The JBL SRX812P sounded similar to the EV but with a little more harshness in the midrange. The JBL SRX818 sub had a very aggresive limiter that kicked in early and held for longer than it should. We also looked at some Presonus AI live cabinets, the high end was the nicest of the bunch but also seemed to be light in this area compared to EV ETX, JBL SRX800, Yamaha DXR and Nexo PS10-R2(reference). It also seemed to step back as far as imaging where as the other cabs all seemed to be right in front of you."


I believe this Statement can be True! I did The Demo With the Etx 15 Vs Srx 715sp and I Did find the The Highs Sligtley Better better on the Etx But the lows were more powerful on the Jbl And The Volume output was also Greater !!its funny how I found the opposite the Ev Etx 15 Was Limiting itself earlier than the Jbl Srx 15 But it was demoing The 15s and not the 12s
The Subs ! I Demoed the Srx 828 and It was Unbeliable and Not the 818 They did not have it!! I Know The Etx 118 sounds Very Good And powerfu !I was Not There to Buy tops I was there to buys Subs! So i went with the Jbl Srx 828 and The Ethernet Port Was Also Very Big for Me !!! There both Super Great Products !! Theres no Going wrong with either one! but due to the size of my Shows I Needed a Powerful Dual 18 thrown in there a price of Under $2000 Usd and Eternet port with M10s for Supending !!!I Think I got the Right one!!!
JJP 4:19 PM - 26 March, 2015
I Think theres Going to Be a lot of JBL vs EV Debates Here !!!And They are the Best Speakers For The Money In the USA They Both have Big Names !! They Both are Amazing in Sound
Rebelguy 6:29 PM - 26 March, 2015
One of the sound companies in my area did a test between the SRX828s and the JBL STX828S and he mentioned that the SRX828s are solid for the money but properly amplified STX828s beat them in output and sound quality.

Realistically though at that point I would probably look into the Danley TH-118 which would beat them both.
Djc Jimenez 10:46 PM - 26 March, 2015
Dang, I thought this SRX line was going to be something else. By looking at the reviews by some of the testers I'm not very convinced.

I'm looking to buy a pair of 15 inch active speakers. Some of the times I might use them without a sub (smaller venues) but when it's a larger venue I'd bring the subs. I mostly play dance/edm music.

The features I would love them to have are:

- Mic input
- High pass filter
- Decent bass
- Not limiting very fast
- RCA input would be nice

The ZXA5 has wonderful reviews but it has no limiter.
The RCF 745-A also has wonderful reviews but has not high pass filter.
The ETX 15P apparently lacks output compared to the previous ones.
The DSR115 seems to be quite heavy
The SRX 815P ... well, apparently it's not that great.

If only the RCF 745-A had a high pass filter plus a full grill, I've read it's very crisp and clear and has nice bass. Not to mention it's high output.

Any advice would be appreaciated guys
Rebelguy 11:29 PM - 26 March, 2015
Yamaha DXR15 has all those features.
desmorider 11:35 PM - 26 March, 2015
Just buy a sub with a high pass output. Jbl's, ev, rcf, fbt, and im sure some others offer subs with high pass outputs. The 745's sound great. The looks are not to everyones liking, however they do look better in person. I haven't seen a really good review on the srx815, and im kind of surprised since they have been out for a while.
JJP 11:56 PM - 26 March, 2015
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Dang, I thought this SRX line was going to be something else. By looking at the reviews by some of the testers I'm not very convinced.

I'm looking to buy a pair of 15 inch active speakers. Some of the times I might use them without a sub (smaller venues) but when it's a larger venue I'd bring the subs. I mostly play dance/edm music.

The features I would love them to have are:

- Mic input
- High pass filter
- Decent bass
- Not limiting very fast
- RCA input would be nice

The ZXA5 has wonderful reviews but it has no limiter.
The RCF 745-A also has wonderful reviews but has not high pass filter.
The ETX 15P apparently lacks output compared to the previous ones.
The DSR115 seems to be quite heavy
The SRX 815P ... well, apparently it's not that great.

If only the RCF 745-A had a high pass filter plus a full grill, I've read it's very crisp and clear and has nice bass. Not to mention it's high output.

Any advice would be appreaciated guys


Bro Your top Choices Should Be EV And JBL !!yamahas Dsr are not in this Level! of Power and clarity!!! The Rcf is An Amazing box Sounds Realley Good But in the USA the price is $2000 realley for a plastic Box That looks Horrible!l no Thanks!!!the EV Etx Is Nice You will like that so clear on the Highs the lows are ok not the best with out a Sub!!! The Srx 815 in the USA Cost $100 more then the Ev Etx! the Highs are Slightley Below the EV !!But The Bass Response is Better then any Speaker in this Class!!and I Believe it gets Louder than all the Boxes Here With all the options you Need !Plus Ethernet Port!I dont know what Bad Review you saw on the Srx815 sp!!!if it was the clipping I Assure you and JBL Srx 815 gets louder then the Ev Etx With out hitting the Compressor!!! I Repeat i think The Rcf Is Very good !!But very pricey and Ugly as hell how they made it sound so good !!God Only Knows!!!
JJP 12:07 AM - 27 March, 2015
I have Been Saying this A Long Time Ago !!Dont pass Judgement on Speaker with out doing A Demo !! I have Heard all of this In Person ! And Dont let the Salesman Fool you sometimes they have a Prefference in a Brand or make more Money pushing A Diffrent Brand !!Make sure you Hook them up and you do the control on The Mixer and try to Do a Shootout with all of them in The Same Room !!!thats How you pick the Winner!!And Believe me My Friend you will Narrow it down to Jbl Prx 815Sp And Ev Etx 15!!the Rcf Will sound just as Good as the Jbl And Ev But I think the Extra Cost of $600 on each one in the USA And a Horrible Looking plastic Box is gonna make you look back at the Ev and Jbl
Rebelguy 12:43 AM - 27 March, 2015
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the Rcf Will sound just as Good as the Jbl And Ev But I think the Extra Cost of $600 on each one in the USA And a Horrible Looking plastic Box is gonna make you look back at the Ev and Jbl


Sorry man. I am not sure where you are getting your pricing but you can get the RCF ART-745As for between $1300 - $1400 in the USA depending on where you shop. Actually $1200 if you let Joee but them for you...haha

Also, you could pick up 4 of the DXR15s for the price of a pair of JBL SRX815Ps.
desmorider 12:44 AM - 27 March, 2015
JJP,
Not trying to argue, just sharing info. The 745 sells for under 1350 shipped new. Im sure the 815 is a stellar peeformer, cant wait to hear it.
JJP 1:01 AM - 27 March, 2015
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Not trying to argue, just sharing info. The 745 sells for under 1350 shipped new. Im sure the 815 is a stellar peeformer, cant wait to hear it.


The Rcf Art 745 is Internet Regular Price of $2000 the Art 715 is About$ 1000 if you can Get the Rcf Art 745 for $1300each one thats A Good Deal !!!im just Going with Regular Internet Price not wheel and deal Price!!!The Srx 815 Regular internet price is $1399.99 im Pretty sure that you can get them lower than that!!! Depending on your deal and wheel Price negotiating Skills!! The Yamahas Are good and you can get 4 Peavey for the price of 2 Yamahas !!!Lets compare apples with apples Oranges with Oranges!! I Like what Desmorider Said !!im not starting a War Just giving some Info!!!
Rebelguy 1:14 AM - 27 March, 2015
When it all comes down to it all of the speakers in this price range are all about equal sound quality wise. JBL is not going to release a speaker at a lower price point which will jeopardize their higher priced lines. This is a response to Yamaha and EV at this price point. QSC has a new line in the works which should be dropping soon as well. That will be their response to the other manufacturers. Buy what you like and can afford.
JJP 1:29 AM - 27 March, 2015
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When it all comes down to it all of the speakers in this price range are all about equal sound quality wise. JBL is not going to release a speaker at a lower price point which will jeopardize their higher priced lines. This is a response to Yamaha and EV at this price point. QSC has a new line in the works which should be dropping soon as well. That will be their response to the other manufacturers. Buy what you like and can afford.


I Agree 80 percent with you Rebel Guy !!you pretty much make a lot of sense ! And thats the truth ! Until I Heard The Srx 828 and Said What The Hell is Jbl doing Ar they trying to kill some of there on Products or Perhaps Just Kill the Competetion take This In to Consideration JBL is Not Alone its Supported by Crown and That Might just be the Diffrence !!Crown has taken the Market away From Qsc in the amp Department!!The Jbl Stx 828 is Awesome a Dual Sub !!But Grab a SRX 828 Dual 18 and It will Perform just as Good with A Crown Amp Built in and Ethernet Port and 40lbs Lighter and M10 Eyepolt it makes you think why is it the same Price ? Well my Conclusion is Easy !!Kill them all At a Price they cant touch!!! And hurt them in Sales This is where the Competetion has to Make a Product to compete and We The Buyers are the only Winners!!!
JJP 1:46 AM - 27 March, 2015
IM still waiting for the Srx 828 I Ordered !!They told me That about in the in the end if the month i should have them and Nothing Yet!!!!!Grrrrrrrrr!!Cant wait!!!
JJP 1:50 AM - 27 March, 2015
I SHOULD have taken the Demo models They had there !!i went back to the Store Yesterday and they Sold Them even the Srx 815 they sold them 2 !!!They told me They have Like 8 on Special Order for Customers Besides My specual Order!! DAM it!!!!
JJP 1:52 AM - 27 March, 2015
Grrrrrrrrr so mad at this Moment i have a Show this Weekend and all i have us 2 Stx 828 I need at Least 4 Subs !!and I MIght have to Rent!!!if they dont Get here in time!!!
JJP 1:54 AM - 27 March, 2015
I called JBL to make Sure the Store wasent telling me a Lie !!!and yeah its true they Havent Sent them out yet!!!GRRRRRR so Mad!!!!!
pdidy 7:00 AM - 27 March, 2015
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Realistically though at that point I would probably look into the Danley TH-118 which would beat them both.

any idea of the current going rate of 2 Danley TH-118 + amp module ?
Taipanic 2:17 PM - 27 March, 2015
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Realistically though at that point I would probably look into the Danley TH-118 which would beat them both.

any idea of the current going rate of 2 Danley TH-118 + amp module ?


I would say between $7-8500.00
Rebelguy 3:31 PM - 27 March, 2015
Sounds about right.
Johnnynights 2:09 AM - 31 March, 2015
Watchwww.youtube.com

Check it out
Asu 12:29 PM - 31 March, 2015
@Rebelguy...so they used the same amp in the dual subs...doesn't that mean early clipping/underpowered unless the 18" drivers are 4ohms and the amp is rigged to run 2ohms into the pair?
Rebelguy 2:06 PM - 31 March, 2015
Asu...which response of mine are you referring to?
Asu 2:24 PM - 31 March, 2015
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Asu...which response of mine are you referring to?


just a question...how can 2000W power a double 18"
JJP 4:58 PM - 31 March, 2015
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just a question...how can 2000W power a double 18"

Efficiency my Friend Efficiency! With Crown Itech Technology!!! Efficiency is The Keywoard!!
pdidy 5:17 PM - 31 March, 2015
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just a question...how can 2000W power a double 18"

Efficiency my Friend Efficiency! With Crown Itech Technology!!! Efficiency is The Keywoard!!

Stop it, you know damn well it's the woofer that needs to be Efficient not the amp.

The reason 2000 W can power a double 18 is because the woofer is 500 W or less......
pdidy 5:21 PM - 31 March, 2015
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@Rebelguy...so they used the same amp in the dual subs...doesn't that mean early clipping/underpowered unless the 18" drivers are 4ohms and the amp is rigged to run 2ohms into the pair?

There is a 1000 W amp in the single 18 and a 2000 W amp in the double 18.
Asu 6:59 PM - 31 March, 2015
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@Rebelguy...so they used the same amp in the dual subs...doesn't that mean early clipping/underpowered unless the 18" drivers are 4ohms and the amp is rigged to run 2ohms into the pair?

There is a 1000 W amp in the single 18 and a 2000 W amp in the double 18.


knowing the SRX,i'd think 2000W for the dual 18 would be just RMS with 4000W peak kinda like the RCF dual 18" SUB 8006-AS that's 2500W RMS and 5000W peak for 141db

something ain't right
pdidy 7:31 PM - 31 March, 2015
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@Rebelguy...so they used the same amp in the dual subs...doesn't that mean early clipping/underpowered unless the 18" drivers are 4ohms and the amp is rigged to run 2ohms into the pair?

There is a 1000 W amp in the single 18 and a 2000 W amp in the double 18.


knowing the SRX,i'd think 2000W for the dual 18 would be just RMS with 4000W peak kinda like the RCF dual 18" SUB 8006-AS that's 2500W RMS and 5000W peak for 141db

something ain't right

You're right something is not right. You would think that the new srx series would be equal to or better than the previous series but it appears that they downgraded the 800watt woofer to 500watts or less. But I can not confirm this because they are hiding the new woofer specs.
rayjthedj 7:34 PM - 31 March, 2015
If you have a woofer that has a 94 db at 1 watt-1 meter rating, and another that has a 97 db at 1 watt-1 meter rating. The 94 db driver will produce the same volume at 1000 watts, that the 97 db driver will produce at 500 watts, and a 100 db driver (hard to find, will only need 250 watts).

As you can see the the speaker (driver) efficiency is just as if not more important than the amplifier output. Which of the two drivers do you think will take less power from the wall and have less heat produced to get to 120 db spl?

The next thing is the size of the box. There is no way to get loud and low, with clean undistorted bass with a small driver and small cabinet. A sub moves large amounts of air to produce the low frequency sound. If you find subs that sound great at medium volumes but seem to go flat when you try and push them hard (QSC KW181 for example) it is running out of cabinet volume to produce the sound you are asking for.
pdidy 7:44 PM - 31 March, 2015
Jbl has a history of producing great subwoofers but they are inefficient and power hungry. So are we to believe that Jbl suddenly produced an efficient woofer and did not take the opportunity to brag about it......hmmm

I think not...lol
Joee 8:20 PM - 31 March, 2015
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Jbl has a history of producing great subwoofers but they are inefficient and power hungry. So are we to believe that Jbl suddenly produced an efficient woofer and did not take the opportunity to brag about it......hmmm

I think not...lol

i don't know if you've ever used the MPRO line? but i use to use them a lot it was the first ever jbl thats wasn't so power hungry
www.jblpro.com

the mp418s was a beast @64lbs, if they would have made this speaker powered it would be my sub of choice
www.jblpro.com

now i know they made a powered version of it but something tells me it wasn't the same & it was like 120lbs …adding a amp module adds double the weight? crazy ……give me that speaker @ 70lbs or under & i'm happy
Asu 8:22 PM - 31 March, 2015
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If you have a woofer that has a 94 db at 1 watt-1 meter rating, and another that has a 97 db at 1 watt-1 meter rating. The 94 db driver will produce the same volume at 1000 watts, that the 97 db driver will produce at 500 watts, and a 100 db driver (hard to find, will only need 250 watts).


I fully agree as i own EV SX300 still and at just 300RMS they get plenty loud 120+db because the driver is 99-100 db sensitivite and can reach 131db max easily.

JBL has never been that efficient though, maybe someone should push them and let us know if this is new territory for JBL...$1999 is a great price though for a powered dual 18" and all the bells and whistles :-)
dj jamalot 8:37 PM - 31 March, 2015
Now if it lives up to the hype I'm buying a pair time will tell....
dj jamalot 8:37 PM - 31 March, 2015
Otherwise I'll keep my 728s
pdidy 9:37 PM - 31 March, 2015
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.$1999 is a great price though for a powered dual 18" and all the bells and whistles :-)

EITHER WAY, its still a great sub for that price.....
dj commander 12:48 PM - 5 April, 2015
Has anyone heard the yorkville parasource ps12 or 15 if so how do you think they stack up against the above mentioned compition .. I have heard the 12s they impressed me
sig916 5:00 PM - 5 April, 2015
After a month of waiting, my srx835p will be delivered tomrrow. Hope of I made the right choice of getting this SRX rather than the EV etx35p. Time will tell...
JJP 6:51 PM - 5 April, 2015
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After a month of waiting, my srx835p will be delivered tomrrow. Hope of I made the right choice of getting this SRX rather than the EV etx35p. Time will tell...

Nice lets us Know what you think!!!Im still waiting for my Srx 828 its been more than 2 weeks And Nothing Yet !!!Dam it ! can wait to fire them Up!!!
KayPlaya 7:27 AM - 6 April, 2015
Can anyone give me a dumbed down version as to why the SRX series is better than the prx series?

I currently have 2 prx615s and 2 prx718s. If I wanted to expand my system (or eventually have an additional setup), what would be the benefits of the srx series?

I can do spec comparisons all day but I'm not yet fully enlightened on what some of them mean.
dj jamalot 12:58 PM - 6 April, 2015
This should be interesting...
Grabs popcorn pulls up a chair.
Asu 4:31 PM - 6 April, 2015
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I can do spec comparisons all day but I'm not yet fully enlightened on what some of them mean.


SRX 800 have better HF drivers with 3" voice coils which means clarity/loud...LF seem to be more efficient than past SRX stuff...the advantage with the new SRX is they are powered+Network-ability and the ability to eq on your ipad etc.

but if i were you,I'd just keep what i have.that setup works just fine unless you feel your setup lacks something.
sig916 10:45 PM - 6 April, 2015
Got my srx835p and it sound great! Although this is my first set of speakers and I'm totally new at this so I wouldn't know how it really sound compare other speakers. Long story short, I got this set for free and I'm thinking of selling it. Would love to keep it but i'm sure i will hardly use it. :)
KayPlaya 2:25 AM - 7 April, 2015
Nothing at all wrong with my set up now so you may be right. I actually played them in a HS gym and was pretty impressed with how well the sound carried. Just thinking expansion wise. Since I only have 2 tops I might just stick with the PRX line for 2 more tops as side fills

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but if i were you,I'd just keep what i have.that setup works just fine unless you feel your setup lacks something.
desmorider 3:30 AM - 7 April, 2015
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Got my srx835p and it sound great! Although this is my first set of speakers and I'm totally new at this so I wouldn't know how it really sound compare other speakers. Long story short, I got this set for free and I'm thinking of selling it. Would love to keep it but i'm sure i will hardly use it. :)



Did you say earlier somewhere that you won those somehow?
sig916 4:42 AM - 7 April, 2015
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Got my srx835p and it sound great! Although this is my first set of speakers and I'm totally new at this so I wouldn't know how it really sound compare other speakers. Long story short, I got this set for free and I'm thinking of selling it. Would love to keep it but i'm sure i will hardly use it. :)



Did you say earlier somewhere that you won those somehow?


No. This were actually a gift! I had an option between this or the EV etx35p.
rayjthedj 1:50 PM - 7 April, 2015
I smell a for sale set up from jump street :)
singh 7:18 PM - 9 April, 2015
I got my srx815p about a couple of weeks ago. Compared to the prx715, these have a lot more low end to them. At low normal volume the highs of PRX715 sounded more clearer to me than srx815p. But when turnt up, the volume of srx815p was more stable, didnt distort, didnt hurt my ears even when standing close to them.
pdidy 8:08 PM - 9 April, 2015
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I got my srx815p about a couple of weeks ago. Compared to the prx715, these have a lot more low end to them. At low normal volume the highs of PRX715 sounded more clearer to me than srx815p. But when turnt up, the volume of srx815p was more stable, didnt distort, didnt hurt my ears even when standing close to them.

is the srx noticeably louder than the prx ?
singh 8:53 PM - 10 April, 2015
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I got my srx815p about a couple of weeks ago. Compared to the prx715, these have a lot more low end to them. At low normal volume the highs of PRX715 sounded more clearer to me than srx815p. But when turnt up, the volume of srx815p was more stable, didnt distort, didnt hurt my ears even when standing close to them.

is the srx noticeably louder than the prx ?


Not noticably louder cleaner at loud volumes
singh 8:53 PM - 10 April, 2015
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I got my srx815p about a couple of weeks ago. Compared to the prx715, these have a lot more low end to them. At low normal volume the highs of PRX715 sounded more clearer to me than srx815p. But when turnt up, the volume of srx815p was more stable, didnt distort, didnt hurt my ears even when standing close to them.

is the srx noticeably louder than the prx ?


Not noticably louder but cleaner at loud volumes
Asu 9:30 PM - 10 April, 2015
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I got my srx815p about a couple of weeks ago. Compared to the prx715, these have a lot more low end to them. At low normal volume the highs of PRX715 sounded more clearer to me than srx815p. But when turnt up, the volume of srx815p was more stable, didnt distort, didnt hurt my ears even when standing close to them.

is the srx noticeably louder than the prx ?


Not noticably louder cleaner at loud volumes


Clean is nice.
MVPDJs 4:24 PM - 15 April, 2015
Sup ya'll - new to this forum.

I'm about to make a major purchase here for my wedding gigs. I'm looking at the 2x SRX 835s stacked on top of 2x SRX 818s subs. This is supposed to take care of the dance floor while my 2x PRX 515s handle the side fills of the room. I'm wondering if getting 2x 818s subs is the best move as opposed to getting 1x 828 sub. I really do want to stack my 3 ways on top of my subs but putting them on the dual 828s in the middle of a dance floor doesn't seem right to me. Could ya'll shed any advice on this? Has anyone else heard these yet?! I don't know much about dbs and other specs either.

MY second option is to go with the PRX 735s stacked on top of the PRX 718 subs. I thought the SRX 800 series was the move though.

Thanks.
Taipanic 7:37 PM - 15 April, 2015
You would either stack the top cabs on each sub set up one stack per side or center cluster the subs (or the double 18) and put the top speakers on stands. Center clustering the subs will increase the output by doubling.
Skully, doubt he will need 3-4 18" subs for wedding work although you are correct for full on club volumes.
Taipanic 3:50 PM - 16 April, 2015
Three way cabinets generally sound better than two way, making it a four way system with sub. The mids stay clear not trying to reproduce bass and the woofer can be crossed to handle only the mid bass frequencies, giving you great kick drum and bass guitar.
MVPDJs 9:11 PM - 16 April, 2015
Thanks for the feedback guys. Is it fair to say 1x dual 828 sub would have a similar output as 2x 818s? If I got 2x 818 subs it'd cost about $1,000 more than just getting 1x dual 828 sub. It wouldn't make sense to get 2x 818 subs then if that's true..I may as well go with the dual sub.
MVPDJs 9:13 PM - 16 April, 2015
AND I know all the buzz with this app is there...the ability to EQ and find the best sound for your room but does that eliminate the advantage of having a driverack PA for the system?! I was planning to buy one to support my whole sound system.
pdidy 10:13 PM - 16 April, 2015
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AND I know all the buzz with this app is there...the ability to EQ and find the best sound for your room but does that eliminate the advantage of having a driverack PA for the system?! I was planning to buy one to support my whole sound system.

not an issue, just use one or the other.
pdidy 10:15 PM - 16 April, 2015
i recommend the dbx driverack pa2 with ipad as remote, thats what i use.
Asu 10:48 PM - 16 April, 2015
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i recommend the dbx driverack pa2 with ipad as remote, thats what i use.


This is an excellent idea because you can always use speakers of your choice.

i'm getting 2 of those dual 18's...too good a deal to pass up.
MVPDJs 1:21 PM - 17 April, 2015
Yeah I was just wondering if there was even a point in getting the driverack as well or just save my money. I don't think the JBLs go as far as the driverack in adjusting feedback controls using pink noise and a mic which is important to me because of guests using the mics.
singh 7:58 PM - 18 April, 2015
So whats the verdict on dual Jblsrx828? How does it stack up against the Yorkville 21" sub? On paper both the subs are 141db loud. Yorkville is pushing 3600w peak whereas Jbl is 2000w peak?
Johnnynights 9:55 PM - 18 April, 2015
Today i got a outside gig is pretty hot..95 degrees im only going to use my two srx815 i been using them indoors and they never overheated...lets see how they hold up in very hot temperatures...i will chime back in here if they give me problems or anything...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:56 PM - 18 April, 2015
95 Degrees? Where are YOU at? The Sahara Desert?
Johnnynights 9:57 PM - 18 April, 2015
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So whats the verdict on dual Jblsrx828? How does it stack up against the Yorkville 21" sub? On paper both the subs are 141db loud. Yorkville is pushing 3600w peak whereas Jbl is 2000w peak?

Honestly i think the yorkvilles in output will beat it but sound quality would say the srx828..
Johnnynights 9:58 PM - 18 April, 2015
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95 Degrees? Where are YOU at? The Sahara Desert?

lol no im in cali but today is really hott and the temperature today is 90-95 so perfect day to test the speakers out...
Joee 9:59 PM - 18 April, 2015
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this is good info here! ls801p vs the srx828?
pdidy 10:49 PM - 18 April, 2015
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this is good info here! ls801p vs the srx828?

Correction: Yorkville LS2100P vs srx828
My guess is yorkville wins...
DJFree 2:18 PM - 24 April, 2015
I sold my PRX 718XLF's to get the SRX828 but at the last minute decided not to go that route because I'm going to be doing some gigs solo. I actually liked those subs just wanted a little more umph.....I'm going to get the srx818sp....I want to stay JBL....and being that I refuse to get a driverack the little DSP may be helpful to me. I have like 6 weddings coming up that will only require one sub so I'll test it out and see if I like it....if not it'll be on eBay...if I do I'll get a second one.
MVPDJs 2:27 PM - 24 April, 2015
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I have like 6 weddings coming up that will only require one sub so I'll test it out and see if I like it....if not it'll be on eBay...if I do I'll get a second one.



Nice DJ Free. Let us know how the sub is! I just ordered a pair of SRX835s. So my complete set up is now going to be 2x SRX835s with 2x PRX 518S for the dance floor and 2x PRX 515 for the sides of the room. I will let you know my thoughts on the 835s.
DJFree 2:40 PM - 24 April, 2015
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Nice DJ Free. Let us know how the sub is! I just ordered a pair of SRX835s. So my complete set up is now going to be 2x SRX835s with 2x PRX 518S for the dance floor and 2x PRX 515 for the sides of the room. I will let you know my thoughts on the 835s.


For sure. I know those 835's are CRAZY. I'm still using my Prx 712's. I love their weight and performance is good for me. That sub should arrive today and I may do a garage test.
Energy God 11:13 PM - 28 April, 2015
Been tracking this for a while. Seems like the courts are still out on this one.

I would like to hear how this system would stack up to my current set up:

2 QSC HPR122i tops (heavy as hell but the birch gives the best sound imo over the K-Series)
2 JBL PRX618s-xlf (On the lighter side, but have been very happy with the Bass performance)

VS (what I am thinking about getting)

2 JBL SRX 815P
2 JBL SRX 818SP

Any thoughts? Would I lose any sound? I actually have to get a new set up due to a fire so it's not really a choice keeping my OG set up.
pdidy 11:22 PM - 28 April, 2015
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The courts still out, not enough reliable user reviews.


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Ohh My God !! Just Demoed the New Srx 828 SuB !!!Looks Just like The Stx 828!!!40 lbs Less weight! Crown Amp! Ethernet! 141 DB at Only $2000 !!!This Amazing speaker did Not Meet my Expectations it way Surpassed Them !!!The EV Etx and Yorkville Elite has Nothing on This The Qsc Kw 181 is Just not in this High power Category it will get blown away!The Bass So Powerful And Clean It Pounds So Hard You have to Brace The Speaker On top it because it will fall!!!I Ordered 4 dont Just Walk To your muscis Store Run !!!Im very Sure Jbl Will Raise the Price !!!because of high demand

JJP.... what happen to this guy who claimed he was buying the Srx 828 to replace his passive subs ?
DJFree 12:39 AM - 29 April, 2015
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Been tracking this for a while. Seems like the courts are still out on this one.

I would like to hear how this system would stack up to my current set up:

2 QSC HPR122i tops (heavy as hell but the birch gives the best sound imo over the K-Series)
2 JBL PRX618s-xlf (On the lighter side, but have been very happy with the Bass performance)

VS (what I am thinking about getting)

2 JBL SRX 815P
2 JBL SRX 818SP

Any thoughts? Would I lose any sound? I actually have to get a new set up due to a fire so it's not really a choice keeping my OG set up.


I actually own the JBL SRX 818SP I came from the 718XLF so that's all I can speak for......you definitely would not lose ANY sound.....the little DSP on the sub makes a nice difference for a premium.....would I sell my 718XLF again to cop the 818sp......eh.....I rather continue to upgrade my lighting.....if you just got it.....why not.
Joee 1:04 AM - 29 April, 2015
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I actually own the JBL SRX 818SP I came from the 718XLF so that's all I can speak for......you definitely would not lose ANY sound.....the little DSP on the sub makes a nice difference for a premium.....would I sell my 718XLF again to cop the 818sp......eh.....I rather continue to upgrade my lighting.....if you just got it.....why not.

see now we have some real user reports! so the srx818 wasn't a major upgrade from the 718? might have just been better to add another 718
Joee 1:05 AM - 29 April, 2015
free how much did you pay for the 818…….you could have got the jbl vrx918sp for $1,550 & thats a upgrade from the 718
Energy God 1:40 AM - 29 April, 2015
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Been tracking this for a while. Seems like the courts are still out on this one.

I would like to hear how this system would stack up to my current set up:

2 QSC HPR122i tops (heavy as hell but the birch gives the best sound imo over the K-Series)
2 JBL PRX618s-xlf (On the lighter side, but have been very happy with the Bass performance)

VS (what I am thinking about getting)

2 JBL SRX 815P
2 JBL SRX 818SP

Any thoughts? Would I lose any sound? I actually have to get a new set up due to a fire so it's not really a choice keeping my OG set up.


I actually own the JBL SRX 818SP I came from the 718XLF so that's all I can speak for......you definitely would not lose ANY sound.....the little DSP on the sub makes a nice difference for a premium.....would I sell my 718XLF again to cop the 818sp......eh.....I rather continue to upgrade my lighting.....if you just got it.....why not.


Good look Free! It probably will be what I need. I'm curious as to how the tops sound. I'm going to have to go check it out for myself at Guitar Center when they get them in.
DJFree 1:41 AM - 29 April, 2015
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see now we have some real user reports! so the srx818 wasn't a major upgrade from the 718? might have just been better to add another 718


Joee I had two 718's but I planned on buying one SRX828sp and talked myself out of that when I added more lighting and I kept having bad dreams about the weight lol

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free how much did you pay for the 818…….you could have got the jbl vrx918sp for $1,550 & thats a upgrade from the 718


I took a L with the price because I did AMS payment plan for a few months...they quoted me 1407 but I let the quote expire and ended up paying full price (but got a great deal on the Chauvet Freedom Quad 4's so it balanced out)...I spent all the money I had from my 718's on new uplighting. I will get a second one before September but overall I'm happy. I didn't get the VRX because you know it's not available at AMS and honestly I'll get the second 818 and if I want to upgrade again in a few years I will.
Joee 1:49 AM - 29 April, 2015
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I kept having bad dreams about the weight lol

i feel you i use these cause i didn't want a sub that was more than 70lbs
www.rcf.it
DJFree 1:49 AM - 29 April, 2015
Good look Free! It probably will be what I need. I'm curious as to how the tops sound. I'm going to have to go check it out for myself at Guitar Center when they get them in.

I'm curious about that too....they're too rich for my blood....I still like my PRX712 tops....and also it seems like the 818sp has better headroom than my 718xlf.....that limit light didn't hit until I really pushed it....I got a wedding the 16th....I'll see how the one sub holds up.....expecting 160 people.....that'll be a test for sure.
DJFree 1:53 AM - 29 April, 2015
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I kept having bad dreams about the weight lol


i feel you i use these cause i didn't want a sub that was more than 70lbs
www.rcf.it


Those look nice....I just wanted to stay home with JBL lol
Joee 1:55 AM - 29 April, 2015
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Those look nice....I just wanted to stay home with JBL lol

well you know the prx715xlf is 56lbs
DJFree 1:57 AM - 29 April, 2015
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Those look nice....I just wanted to stay home with JBL lol

well you know the prx715xlf is 56lbs


I know but the PRX 712's don't have a crossover.....it comes from the sub.....I'm not getting a driverack.....so being able to see the meters/change hz.....really helps the sound for me....everything from 700 series sub is 120hz with a polarity button which helped in certain situations.
Djc Jimenez 2:02 AM - 29 April, 2015
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I spent all the money I had from my 718's on new uplighting.


Could u tell us which fixtures u bought?
DJFree 2:05 AM - 29 April, 2015
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I spent all the money I had from my 718's on new uplighting.


Could u tell us which fixtures u bought?


Got the Chauvet Freedom Quad 4's.......didn't want to derail the thread.....but if you're looking for uplighting this is it! I have 6 so far
DJ GaFFle 1:35 PM - 29 April, 2015
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I spent all the money I had from my 718's on new uplighting.


Could u tell us which fixtures u bought?


Got the Chauvet Freedom Quad 4's.......didn't want to derail the thread.....but if you're looking for uplighting this is it! I have 6 so far

Big bucks there, those uplights aren't cheap!

I may have to settle for the bootlegs: www.facebook.com
DJFree 1:43 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Big bucks there, those uplights aren't cheap!

I may have to settle for the bootlegs: www.facebook.com


Gaffle you can get these for 265 per fixture....pricey but Chauvet's customer service I've gotten over the last few months made this a easy decision....and the lights don't have that wide beam like the Eternal CubeEcho but they're brighter I don't care what the specs say.....I had those and sold them.
Asu 2:05 PM - 29 April, 2015
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2 JBL SRX 815P
2 JBL SRX 818SP


Why not go for the 12's over 18's, unless you sometimes use just the 15's for smaller events which i understand.

by the way the EV ETX 18" has a tour grade DVX driver that goes really deep...has anyone compared the SRX818SP with the EV?
Energy God 2:18 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Why not go for the 12's over 18's, unless you sometimes use just the 15's for smaller events which i understand.


That's exactly the reason.
DJFree 6:45 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Oh yea I forgot to show a picture.
Energy God 9:36 PM - 29 April, 2015
Real question. How would anyone compare the SRX 818SP vs. the VRX 918SP?

Price difference doesn't seem too much different.
Joee 9:52 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Real question. How would anyone compare the SRX 818SP vs. the VRX 918SP?

Price difference doesn't seem too much different.

well considering DJfree had the prx718xlf sold it than bought the srx818 & said it wasn't that much of an upgrade


i'd say the vrx918sp kills it
DJFree 9:55 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Real question. How would anyone compare the SRX 818SP vs. the VRX 918SP?

Price difference doesn't seem too much different.

well considering DJfree had the prx718xlf sold it than bought the srx818 & said it wasn't that much of an upgrade


i'd say the vrx918sp kills it


I wanna hear the vrx918sp.....I won't buy them because I'm satisfied but I hear guys talk more about the quality/tour grade than sound when it comes to that speaker.....I'm going to rent two of them later in the Summer and see what they're about.
DJFree 9:57 PM - 29 April, 2015
If AGI has the the SRX818sp for 1399 I'm sure you can get them for even cheaper too.....I got quoted 1550 for the VRX.
Energy God 10:01 PM - 29 April, 2015
Does anyone on here have the VRX 918SP? Is it really the tank everyone says it is?
Joee 10:23 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Does anyone on here have the VRX 918SP? Is it really the tank everyone says it is?

yes i few people on the board own them i was one of them i sold it for 70lbs sub the vrx is 85lbs………it's a beast
pdidy 10:25 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Does anyone on here have the VRX 918SP? Is it really the tank everyone says it is?

Its all true, I have 4 of them..... Watchwww.youtube.com
And Ive pretty much abused and beat the shit out of them for testing purposes and they have never failed.

Keep in mind they're design to be Flown www.agiprodj.com so build quality is above "regular" speaker standards be default.
pdidy 10:26 PM - 29 April, 2015
by default....
Energy God 10:40 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Keep in mind they're design to be Flown www.agiprodj.com so build quality is above "regular" speaker standards be default.


Flown? what do you mean?
Joee 10:41 PM - 29 April, 2015
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Keep in mind they're design to be Flown www.agiprodj.com so build quality is above "regular" speaker standards be default.


Flown? what do you mean?

the pic says it all there meant to be hung from the celling or trussing
Energy God 10:44 PM - 29 April, 2015
oh got it... didnt look at the pic, just the video.

I wonder how the comparison is then, mine would without a doubt be grounded.
Energy God 6:25 AM - 30 April, 2015
Another question... Has anyone heard anything from QSC? They bussin anything soon? It's been a while since their last new loudspeakers, I don't know they have it ain't broke don't fix it mentality, but their K series definitely had room for improvement and growth imo.
Rebelguy 4:07 PM - 30 April, 2015
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Another question... Has anyone heard anything from QSC? They bussin anything soon? It's been a while since their last new loudspeakers, I don't know they have it ain't broke don't fix it mentality, but their K series definitely had room for improvement and growth imo.


Last rumors I heard were that a new series was in the works as well as a Touchmix 24. Hopefully we hear something by the next NAMM.
Asu 4:40 PM - 1 May, 2015
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Another question... Has anyone heard anything from QSC? They bussin anything soon? It's been a while since their last new loudspeakers, I don't know they have it ain't broke don't fix it mentality, but their K series definitely had room for improvement and growth imo.


Last rumors I heard were that a new series was in the works as well as a Touchmix 24. Hopefully we hear something by the next NAMM.


They always time it just right when everyone has revealed their hand :-) they came out with some amazing amps this time around with built in DSP,NETWORKABILITY etc and amazing power vs price....makes me think about having some high quality passive units.
Danny_S 4:05 PM - 6 May, 2015
Hey folks, first post at all on these forums. So I got the SRX 815 last month and the 828 about two weeks ago. Used them all together this past Saturday and was very pleased with the sound. The sub kicks hard and the lows are nice. People were impressed with the sound overall. The one issue is that this sub is huge. I'm making road cases for the speakers and only had time to make the bottom half of the case for the sub. I needed a way to move it cause it's so heavy. I had two guys help me load it into the back of my full size truck. I'm thinking maybe I should've bought one 18" instead.

Hope my post helped as this forum has helped me out
DJFree 4:19 PM - 6 May, 2015
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Hey folks, first post at all on these forums. So I got the SRX 815 last month and the 828 about two weeks ago. Used them all together this past Saturday and was very pleased with the sound. The sub kicks hard and the lows are nice. People were impressed with the sound overall. The one issue is that this sub is huge. I'm making road cases for the speakers and only had time to make the bottom half of the case for the sub. I needed a way to move it cause it's so heavy. I had two guys help me load it into the back of my full size truck. I'm thinking maybe I should've bought one 18" instead.

Hope my post helped as this forum has helped me out


Damn. Thanks for this. This is the reason I chose to not get the 828....Taking the 818 out next Saturday for the first time. It's a wedding but I only play Hip Hop/R&B/Funk so it'll get a good test for the 150 that's expected. I'm report here.
Asu 4:20 PM - 6 May, 2015
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I had two guys help me load it into the back of my full size truck. I'm thinking maybe I should've bought one 18" instead.


Yeah but the dual sub saves you $500 bucks and hits harder than a single 18"...nice trade off...if one has a van or truck to fit the dual subs.... i'd go for those.just keep a dolly in there...makes moving them a piece of cake.
desmorider 4:25 PM - 6 May, 2015
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Hey folks, first post at all on these forums. So I got the SRX 815 last month and the 828 about two weeks ago. Used them all together this past Saturday and was very pleased with the sound. The sub kicks hard and the lows are nice. People were impressed with the sound overall. The one issue is that this sub is huge. I'm making road cases for the speakers and only had time to make the bottom half of the case for the sub. I needed a way to move it cause it's so heavy. I had two guys help me load it into the back of my full size truck. I'm thinking maybe I should've bought one 18" instead.

Hope my post helped as this forum has helped me out


Damn. Thanks for this. This is the reason I chose to not get the 828....Taking the 818 out next Saturday for the first time. It's a wedding but I only play Hip Hop/R&B/Funk so it'll get a good test for the 150 that's expected. I'm report here.



What sub did you have before the 818? What sub did you compare the 818 with before buying it? I haven't heard one yet, just trying to get a feel for how it compares to kw181,etx18sp,rcf 8003, 8004, etc. if you listened or owned any other 18, please let me know.
Thanks and enjoy
DJFree 4:41 PM - 6 May, 2015
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What sub did you have before the 818? What sub did you compare the 818 with before buying it? I haven't heard one yet, just trying to get a feel for how it compares to kw181,etx18sp,rcf 8003, 8004, etc. if you listened or owned any other 18, please let me know.
Thanks and enjoy


I had the 718XLF's.....I liked them better than the KW181's....never heard or tried the RCF or the EV series...I went with the 818sp by default....I liked what I had but I sold them to get one 828....but I got cold feet and instead of buying the same subs I went with the 818 and I'll add another one later in the Summer.
Danny_S 4:44 PM - 6 May, 2015
Ok so I had two JBL EON 518s and a Cerwin Vega CVA 121. The EONS believe it or not sound really nice and the lows were good. The cerwin vega is a beast when it comes to bass.

I own a full size GMC Sierra and I had to stack the two 815 on their sides on top of each other and then we lifted the 828 onto the bed. if you can take another person to help I'd advise you do it
Danny_S 4:49 PM - 6 May, 2015
DJFree, I'm thinking the single sub might be the way to go. When the venue calls for it you can get the other sub. Dolly or no dolly it's really cumbersome to move around. But it sounds nice and adds a proffesional look and touch to the setup. AMS has a 45 day return policy so Im gonna sleep on in
desmorider 4:53 PM - 6 May, 2015
828 vs cva121??????? How do those two compare. I know it's comparing 2-to-1, but the 21 should be a low-end monster.
Danny_S 4:55 PM - 6 May, 2015
Haha, it was the monster till I got the JBL. I'm gonna have to do a side by side test one of these days.
Eminence Ent 5:38 PM - 6 May, 2015
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i recommend the dbx driverack pa2 with ipad as remote, thats what i use.


Hi Guys New to the forum wanted get some feedback on the new JBL SRX800 line.

We are purchasing a new system for the upcoming wedding season, we want to stick with JBL.

was thinking either:

2 x JBL STX835
2 x JBL STX828s

or

2 x JBL SRX835P
2 x JBL SRX828SP

Im leaning towards the SRX's primarily because I can save a lot on without having to buy amps. The only issue is there isnt much feedback on them yet.


Also secondary question (sorry to sidetrack), should we consider a driverack? why or why not. We currently dont use one.
Eminence Ent 5:40 PM - 6 May, 2015
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i recommend the dbx driverack pa2 with ipad as remote, thats what i use.


Hi Guys New to the forum wanted get some feedback on the new JBL SRX800 line.

We are purchasing a new system for the upcoming wedding season, we want to stick with JBL.

was thinking either:

2 x JBL STX835
2 x JBL STX828s

or

2 x JBL SRX835P
2 x JBL SRX828SP

Im leaning towards the SRX's primarily because I can save a lot on without having to buy amps. The only issue is there isnt much feedback on them yet.


Also secondary question (sorry to sidetrack), should we consider a driverack? why or why not. We currently dont use one.


With 2 x Crown XTi 6002
pdidy 7:14 PM - 6 May, 2015
the stx is superior to srx. Neither system requires a driverack they both have DSP.
DJ GaFFle 7:32 PM - 6 May, 2015
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the stx is superior to srx. Neither system requires a driverack they both have DSP.

Yep, I would agree... Also, isn't the weight higher on the STX in relation to the powered SRX?

At this point and as a mobile DJ, I'd go SRX. It's powered and maybe a little less stressful to deal with. You can separate the setup and not have that dongle (your amp rack) to lug along with you. Unless you're providing sound for mini-concerts, the SRX is probably your best bet. Those SRX835's will make you smile and have you squinting when they're turned up full tilt. :-)
Eminence Ent 7:37 PM - 6 May, 2015
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the stx is superior to srx. Neither system requires a driverack they both have DSP.

Yep, I would agree... Also, isn't the weight higher on the STX in relation to the powered SRX?

At this point and as a mobile DJ, I'd go SRX. It's powered and maybe a little less stressful to deal with. You can separate the setup and not have that dongle (your amp rack) to lug along with you. Unless you're providing sound for mini-concerts, the SRX is probably your best bet. Those SRX835's will make you smile and have you squinting when they're turned up full tilt. :-)


Thats what I was thinking, considering you'll save $4000-5000 on the amps as well.
Danny_S 9:51 PM - 6 May, 2015
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the stx is superior to srx. Neither system requires a driverack they both have DSP.

Yep, I would agree... Also, isn't the weight higher on the STX in relation to the powered SRX?

At this point and as a mobile DJ, I'd go SRX. It's powered and maybe a little less stressful to deal with. You can separate the setup and not have that dongle (your amp rack) to lug along with you. Unless you're providing sound for mini-concerts, the SRX is probably your best bet. Those SRX835's will make you smile and have you squinting when they're turned up full tilt. :-)





Those 835's are nice but I'd need a bigger truck to transport everything
Djc Jimenez 10:16 PM - 6 May, 2015
How do you guys feel about having an enclosed trailer like this one

Watchwww.youtube.com

Instead of lugging everything in a suv or a mini van?
DJ GaFFle 11:38 PM - 6 May, 2015
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How do you guys feel about having an enclosed trailer like this one

Watchwww.youtube.com

Instead of lugging everything in a suv or a mini van?

Man! Okay... you'll bump your head plenty often at the end of long gigs and maybe at night if you're not careful BUT that thing isn't overly big like most trailers; you can get that into any garage. I'm not a fan of barn door trailers... strictly ramp types for me. You can easily ramp up the heaviest of subs and stuff with wheels with a ramp trailer. You'll need aftermarket ramps for that one you posted. Thanx for posting!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:50 PM - 6 May, 2015
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How do you guys feel about having an enclosed trailer like this one

Watchwww.youtube.com

Instead of lugging everything in a suv or a mini van?


THAT is hot..
pdidy 1:44 AM - 7 May, 2015
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I'm not a fan of barn door trailers... strictly ramp types for me. You can easily ramp up the heaviest of subs and stuff with wheels with a ramp trailer. You'll need aftermarket ramps for that one you posted.

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJFree 1:02 PM - 7 May, 2015
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How do you guys feel about having an enclosed trailer like this one

Watchwww.youtube.com

Instead of lugging everything in a suv or a mini van?


My next investment. I want a 6x12 V Neck. That seems to be the happy medium for a mobile dj.
DJFree 1:07 PM - 7 May, 2015
I just noticed that trailer place is in Fayetteville, NC......that's 60 minutes from me....NICE!
DJEASY 2:45 AM - 8 May, 2015
DJ FREE I just got my srx 815p ...im thinking on a pair of the 818sp..do the 818sp sound close to the prx 718xlf or are the 818sp a better buy..
DJFree 2:49 AM - 8 May, 2015
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DJ FREE I just got my srx 815p ...im thinking on a pair of the 818sp..do the 818sp sound close to the prx 718xlf or are the 818sp a better buy..


The 818sp sounds better for sure. The DSP on the sub is exactly what I needed. I'm still waiting to actually test it out at an event before I can say it's a real upgrade over the 718xlf. That will be next weekend.
DJEASY 2:53 AM - 8 May, 2015
are you familiar with the hi Q net software to EQ speakers SRX 800 sereis
DJFree 2:55 AM - 8 May, 2015
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Read about it. Not interested right now though. I have too many other worries with my events. I need it nice and simple.
DJEASY 3:06 AM - 8 May, 2015
how will you EQ Speakers..I could be wrong but the only way to get to the DSP..and SET presets .EQ/etc...not on speaker board will need to use HI Q NET..
DJFree 3:09 AM - 8 May, 2015
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how will you EQ Speakers..I could be wrong but the only way to get to the DSP..and SET presets .EQ/etc...not on speaker board will need to use HI Q NET..


Meters/Hi Lo Pass features are on board without the HiQ....the HiQ is the more advanced stuff that I don't need.
DJEASY 3:14 AM - 8 May, 2015
sorry DJ FREE i just saw that is DANNY S that has the SRX 800's...and used them on an event
pdidy 3:14 AM - 8 May, 2015
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how will you EQ Speakers..I could be wrong but the only way to get to the DSP..and SET presets .EQ/etc...not on speaker board will need to use HI Q NET..

you can eq the srx800 with an external eq, driverack or similar, your mixers eq, on baord eq and presets and with HI Q NET. Pick one.
DJEASY 3:24 AM - 8 May, 2015
yea Pdidy i know i EQ with external EQ..but the onboard is just when using with SUBS..the presets from 8-? are not programmed...i will be using these alone in some events..i would like to have the presets set on speaker board for faster set up..this why i wanted to know are there any videos or help with HI Q NET is the only way to do this i have never gone past a driverack260 im new to this
pdidy 4:02 AM - 8 May, 2015
this is much easier than setting a driverack260, in fact its simple. i would compare it to a driverack pa2 with remote using an ipad or android device. Watchwww.youtube.com
pdidy 4:08 AM - 8 May, 2015
jbl srx800 app Watchwww.youtube.com
DJEASY 5:20 AM - 8 May, 2015
thanks Pdidy i figured it out HIQNET is needed to program the presets on speaker board 8thru50 AND JBL CONNECT (ipad,,Iphone,,Soon for Android) does not STORE in your speaker board..but it could be saved on device..i just did 1 preset with HIQNET and STORED on speaker...wow these speakers sound AMAZING....i was planning on LS801p but now i think im going for the srx 818sp i think with the DSP it will sound very good..thanks again Pdidy
pdidy 8:17 AM - 8 May, 2015
No problem and you thought that shit was hard.....lol programming is now easy compared to the old stuff which is the main reason I purchased the driverack PA2..
Rebelguy 4:35 PM - 8 May, 2015
I found this on soundforums.net.

"I am an MRX series owner and a STX series owner.. strictly subs though.. I have listened to the SRX828S powered speaker and while it looks just like my STX 828S subs.. performance is just about the same as my MRX528S subs.. they just don't put out like the older SRX or the new STX line. On paper these ought to be better than my Passive STX but I assure you this isn't the case.. at least this was my experience with them."
DJFree 4:40 PM - 8 May, 2015
Why would anyone expect these to sound better than the passive? I'm confused......I seen a bunch of DJ's say they'll never move to anything powered because they felt their passive system is better.
Joee 4:50 PM - 8 May, 2015
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I found this on soundforums.net.

"I am an MRX series owner and a STX series owner.. strictly subs though.. I have listened to the SRX828S powered speaker and while it looks just like my STX 828S subs.. performance is just about the same as my MRX528S subs.. they just don't put out like the older SRX or the new STX line. On paper these ought to be better than my Passive STX but I assure you this isn't the case.. at least this was my experience with them."

not surprising at all considering the continuous/peak ratings of the new srx active, also the fact that the dual srx828 is the same price as the single vrx918


it would not surprise me at al to find out it's just a powered MRX, they just put the name SRX on it cause they know a lot of people Really like the srx line
DJ GaFFle 5:42 PM - 8 May, 2015
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I found this on soundforums.net.

"I am an MRX series owner and a STX series owner.. strictly subs though.. I have listened to the SRX828S powered speaker and while it looks just like my STX 828S subs.. performance is just about the same as my MRX528S subs.. they just don't put out like the older SRX or the new STX line. On paper these ought to be better than my Passive STX but I assure you this isn't the case.. at least this was my experience with them."

not surprising at all considering the continuous/peak ratings of the new srx active, also the fact that the dual srx828 is the same price as the single vrx918


it would not surprise me at al to find out it's just a powered MRX, they just put the name SRX on it cause they know a lot of people Really like the srx line

Man, when they 1st came out, I read a few impressions on other PA sound forums. They felt the lack of Powercon was a dead giveaway that the SRX800's were meant strictly for the "DJ" level market. I think PDidy pointed out different drivers too from those used in the previous SRX700-series passives.
dj jamalot 6:24 PM - 8 May, 2015
While you guys are tryna figure out what's better I'll just keep shaking buildings with my "OLD" SRX 728s's...
DJ GaFFle 8:25 PM - 8 May, 2015
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While you guys are tryna figure out what's better I'll just keep draining building's power with my "OLD" SRX 728s's...

Yep... they do take a lot of power to drive them properly. :-)
Rebelguy 8:30 PM - 8 May, 2015
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While you guys are tryna figure out what's better I'll just keep draining building's power with my "OLD" SRX 728s's...

Yep... they do take a lot of power to drive them properly. :-)


That why we sold ours many years ago.
Joee 8:52 PM - 8 May, 2015
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While you guys are tryna figure out what's better I'll just keep draining building's power with my "OLD" SRX 728s's...

Yep... they do take a lot of power to drive them properly. :-)


That why we sold ours many years ago.

srx728……..with a bridged down crown macrotech is a beautiful thing
dj jamalot 9:42 PM - 8 May, 2015
^^I never had power mgt issues quit working them Old A$$ bldg.'s...
Rebelguy 9:55 PM - 8 May, 2015
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I wasn't talking about room power. I was referring to the amplifier power needed to make them really do some damage.
dj jamalot 10:01 PM - 8 May, 2015
Gotcha 👍🏼
Johnnynights 4:20 AM - 9 May, 2015
I still havent mess with the dsp on the speaker or the app i been using my srx815p just like that,but i have some big upcoming gigs and will for sure need to put some dsp.
MVPDJs 5:10 PM - 11 May, 2015
So I finally got the 835s and HOLY MOLY. They sound so freaking crisp clear and kick pretty hard. I'll write back when I get to test them at a hall but so far I'm digging the beautiful clarity these speakers provide. These things are pretty big too. Will write back after my first event.
DJ GaFFle 9:18 PM - 11 May, 2015
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So I finally got the 835s and HOLY MOLY. They sound so freaking crisp clear and kick pretty hard. I'll write back when I get to test them at a hall but so far I'm digging the beautiful clarity these speakers provide. These things are pretty big too. Will write back after my first event.

Yeah... my thoughts as well. Super clear, loud, plus knock.
DJFree 9:19 PM - 11 May, 2015
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So I finally got the 835s and HOLY MOLY. They sound so freaking crisp clear and kick pretty hard. I'll write back when I get to test them at a hall but so far I'm digging the beautiful clarity these speakers provide. These things are pretty big too. Will write back after my first event.

Yeah... my thoughts as well. Super clear, loud, plus knock.

You got them already too Gaffle?
DJ GaFFle 9:21 PM - 11 May, 2015
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So I finally got the 835s and HOLY MOLY. They sound so freaking crisp clear and kick pretty hard. I'll write back when I get to test them at a hall but so far I'm digging the beautiful clarity these speakers provide. These things are pretty big too. Will write back after my first event.

Yeah... my thoughts as well. Super clear, loud, plus knock.

You got them already too Gaffle?

I spent some time with them 2x at GC. Played as loud and as long as I wanted.
Mr. Goodkat 12:56 AM - 12 May, 2015
can serato make a PA section for these posts.
DJ Big T Silva 4:16 PM - 12 May, 2015
I agree with Mr Goodkat, we all would like a dedicated thread to post on just PA systems and solutions, whether that be tops/bottoms combos, trailers for certain systems for transportation, amps, true to life power ratings, comparisons with those that own PA systems and have either heard, or own other systems and can give feedback on their comparative performance, PA systems performance for gig logs (how did it sound and how did the gig go? What would you want to change about your current PA system? What PA system makes you get excited to hear it if you could afford it? Ect.) Either Serato or a forum member make the thread please :)
DJEASY 1:22 AM - 13 May, 2015
so you guys think that the SRX 818sp is on the level of power of kw181 and prx 718xlf..i got the SRX 815p tops was going to buy the SRX 818sp but now not really sure...will i be better off with the YORKIE ls801p (PAIR)...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:46 AM - 13 May, 2015
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Either Serato or a forum member make the thread please :)


lol, they already DID - It's called Off Topic Discussion....
Joee 1:48 AM - 13 May, 2015
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so you guys think that the SRX 818sp is on the level of power of kw181 and prx 718xlf..

it has already been said by dj free that the 818 was not that much of an upgrade from the 718xlf
DJ Big T Silva 2:08 AM - 13 May, 2015
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Either Serato or a forum member make the thread please :)


lol, they already DID - It's called Off Topic Discussion....

This. :P
DJ Big T Silva 3:46 AM - 13 May, 2015
That sounds fine by me :) Anything for DJS helping other DJs with sound and lighting solutions.
Rebelguy 7:06 AM - 13 May, 2015
You can also check out DJForums.com, DJChat.com and even Prosoundweb. They all have DJ, Sound & Lighting sections.
Taipanic 3:04 PM - 13 May, 2015
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so you guys think that the SRX 818sp is on the level of power of kw181 and prx 718xlf..i got the SRX 815p tops was going to buy the SRX 818sp but now not really sure...will i be better off with the YORKIE ls801p (PAIR)...


The Yorkvilles will most definitely be louder but probably not as good sound quality. They are great for modern dance music, trap, etc... and will shake the walls. To go as loud (or louder) and deeper with great SQ you would be looking at Danleys or JTR Orbit Shifters.
DJ GaFFle 3:20 PM - 13 May, 2015
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so you guys think that the SRX 818sp is on the level of power of kw181 and prx 718xlf..i got the SRX 815p tops was going to buy the SRX 818sp but now not really sure...will i be better off with the YORKIE ls801p (PAIR)...


The Yorkvilles will most definitely be louder but probably not as good sound quality. They are great for modern dance music, trap, etc... and will shake the walls. To go as loud (or louder) and deeper with great SQ you would be looking at Danleys or JTR Orbit Shifters.

Don't forget the Yorkville LS2100P which sounded great to me. I did a brief A/B against the ETX18SP and the EV sounded puny next to the Yorkville.
Asu 12:20 PM - 14 May, 2015
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Don't forget the Yorkville LS2100P which sounded great to me. I did a brief A/B against the ETX18SP and the EV sounded puny next to the Yorkville.



LS2100P is a monster,but most DJ's don't want to deal with anything above 130lbs,but definitely worth it if you got the right tools to move it around.

it also goes much much lower than the 18 LS801P 32HZ vs 42Hz at +/- 3db.

if one has the cash and means to haul this 21" monster...for 2K,you'll have a bigger smile than the Joker himself lol.

The amp specs of this 21 monster is what i expected the powered SRX to have.
DJ GaFFle 6:39 PM - 14 May, 2015
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Don't forget the Yorkville LS2100P which sounded great to me. I did a brief A/B against the ETX18SP and the EV sounded puny next to the Yorkville.



LS2100P is a monster,but most DJ's don't want to deal with anything above 130lbs,but definitely worth it if you got the right tools to move it around.

it also goes much much lower than the 18 LS801P 32HZ vs 42Hz at +/- 3db.

if one has the cash and means to haul this 21" monster...for 2K,you'll have a bigger smile than the Joker himself lol.

The amp specs of this 21 monster is what i expected the powered SRX to have.

Dude... they ain't no joke; Ole boy has a trailer so that's all that's necessary. The down side is one sub can draw up to 12 amps. I bet you can only get a pair of them on a single 20 amp circuit safely. I guestimate a pair of those would easily = five or six ETX18SP's. You're right about a big smile. When they first turned it on, those lows felt so thick and full! Nothing like having a 21" sub! Forreals though... they panned back and for between it and the ETX18SP and it made the 18 sound weak and like a joke. It was like you could hear all the flaws of it, yet standing alone, the ETX18 is not flawed and is a great sounding sub.
DJ GaFFle 6:40 PM - 14 May, 2015
^^^ Maybe just five ETX18SP's...
DJ Nightmare Productions 6:49 PM - 14 May, 2015
My STX 828S are 180 pounds a piece lol Trailer with Ramp door is lifesaver
singh 11:14 PM - 15 May, 2015
Watch "Rethink QSC at Infocomm 2015" on YouTube - youtu.be

Maybe QSC getting ready to unveil new speakers???
pdidy 1:16 AM - 16 May, 2015
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Watch "Rethink QSC at Infocomm 2015" on YouTube - youtu.be

Maybe QSC getting ready to unveil new speakers???


ahh shit, recent speaker buyers thinking........ percyspostx.files.wordpress.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:20 AM - 16 May, 2015
QSC comin' out with the ZXA5 killa!
Taipanic 2:45 PM - 16 May, 2015
I'll be at Infocomm this year in Orlando and will check out what they got. Planning on two days this year, one is not enough.
Taipanic 3:01 PM - 16 May, 2015
The QSC teaser video looks like there moving their focus away from portable PA type speakers, more into corporate install type stuff. Of course that is the focus of Infocomm, generally; so it makes sense that they will highlight those type of products there. They will have PA there but it not the big focus. Rane doesn't even bring mixers, only effects, DSP and install products to Infocomm.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 8:16 PM - 16 May, 2015
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LMAO hold on to your loot!
DJ Big T Silva 10:15 PM - 17 May, 2015
I don't think we will see a new active speaker line that rivals the K series from QSC until QSC demos their new line up at NAMM 2016 in Q4 of January. (Although I hope I'm wrong!) I anticipate, to stay competitive we will see a new active speaker line that is superior to the K series and has LCD integrated DSP, is 2000 watts (like SRX800 series from JBL), and has a better build quality then the K series. The question is will it be birch wood or ABS? The K series was ABS then released in the KW series later.... perhaps they will do this again with their new line of active speakers when we see them..... :P
Rebelguy 12:07 AM - 18 May, 2015
The original K series wasn't released at NAMM so maybe we will see something sooner.
DJ Big T Silva 12:11 AM - 18 May, 2015
*fingers crossed*
singh 8:02 AM - 18 May, 2015
Hopefully QSC plan on releasing something at Infocomm in June and then have a another demo at summer namm in July
Asu 11:27 PM - 20 May, 2015
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The original K series wasn't released at NAMM so maybe we will see something sooner.


the real question is why would they need a new powered line? KW & K series still work fine.

a cheaper option may not be up to par with the KW/K series but would probably bring in some new money...an option that's as good or slightly better than the KW's will probably just add the features we see in the new powered SRX line seeing as the new QSC amps can be tweaked via an App on your cell phone,laptop or ipad :-)
Joee 11:31 PM - 20 May, 2015
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the real question is why would they need a new powered line? KW & K series still work fine.

100% agree they do, but there are better cheaper options now, the yahmaha dxr12 sh!ts all over the k12….& sound better doing so


they need to take back the market share …….
pdidy 12:17 AM - 21 May, 2015
We and our criticisms toward the old K, KW QSC line are more rare than some of you may think. The QSC line is still relevant in 2015 to many DJ's BUT we are far more advanced than the AVERAGE dj which explains our clear preference for RCF, Yamaha, EV and JBL mid level speakers.

I believe QSC knows this which may explain their delay in a NEW product line. But now that all the major brands have shown their hands, I think its time for QSC to "take back the market share" if they can........
Joee 12:23 AM - 21 May, 2015
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I believe QSC knows this which may explain their delay in a NEW product line. But now that all the major brands have shown their hands, I think its time for QSC to "take back the market share" if they can........

again agreed 100%

QSC is waiting patently for all there competitors to release there offerings so they can 1up them, but the question is……did they wait to long? i don't see them making a better 12" box than the RCF HD32-a
pdidy 12:41 AM - 21 May, 2015
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i don't see them making a better 12" box than the RCF HD32-a

true but lets think average DJ and Dealer, they know nothing about RCF HD32-a nor do the sell them. Most of my "average dj" friends no nothin about zxa5's or RCF HD32......

just us fellow gear whores know what the big deal is...lol
Joee 12:48 AM - 21 May, 2015
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true but lets think average DJ and Dealer, they know nothing about RCF HD32-a nor do the sell them. Most of my "average dj" friends no nothin about zxa5's or RCF HD32......

just us fellow gear whores know what the big deal is...lol

man i'm not frontin …….


you know your sh!t….lol, i just finished telling my peoples "YO you need to check out them yahmaha dxr…..he didn't listen & bought the qsc's



i just never EVER understood the obsession with the K series ……yes qsc makes one BEAST of a amplifier ……but they do not make a BEAST speaker …….i don't care what anyone says


the rcf Art 312-a sound much better than a k12 @ half the price
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:06 AM - 21 May, 2015
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I believe QSC knows this which may explain their delay in a NEW product line. But now that all the major brands have shown their hands, I think its time for QSC to "take back the market share" if they can........

again agreed 100%

QSC is waiting patently for all there competitors to release there offerings so they can 1up them, but the question is……did they wait to long? i don't see them making a better 12" box than the RCF HD32-a


They have brand recognition. If they come out with a new line that essentially is the same speaker but with DSP, they will make a killing. People love a brand they can count on and recognize.
Joee 1:10 AM - 21 May, 2015
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They have brand recognition. If they come out with a new line that essentially is the same speaker but with DSP, they will make a killing. People love a brand they can count on and recognize.

again agree 100%


but……they may have waited to long! people know & trust ev & jbl also
pdidy 1:11 AM - 21 May, 2015
The obsession with the K, KW series is because of "word of mouth" due to is dependability, reliability, mixer section and the fact that it could not be blown by the Amateur dj who didn't no shit about speakers and would abuse it every night without failure. That was unheard of at the time........

it was before its time in 2008.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:13 AM - 21 May, 2015
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They have brand recognition. If they come out with a new line that essentially is the same speaker but with DSP, they will make a killing. People love a brand they can count on and recognize.

again agree 100%


but……they may have waited to long! people know & trust ev & jbl also


QSC is still the most rented gear. EV & RCF are not as recognized by the avg DJ. QSC JBL Peavey Mackie shit even Behringer
pdidy 1:19 AM - 21 May, 2015
Our speaker discussion here is yeeeears ahead of its time, it will be yeears before RCF is a household name in the average dj world.
Joee 1:20 AM - 21 May, 2015
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The obsession with the K, KW series is because of "word of mouth" due to is dependability, reliability, mixer section and the fact that it could not be blown by the Amateur dj who didn't no shit about speakers and would abuse it every night without failure. That was unheard of at the time........

it was before its time in 2008.

this is the reason for it popularity


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QSC is still the most rented gear. EV & RCF are not as recognized by the avg DJ. QSC JBL Peavey Mackie shit even Behringer

100% correct , but it's not the best sounding speaker @ it's price point buy a long shot
Joee 1:22 AM - 21 May, 2015
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Our speaker discussion here is yeeeears ahead of its time

lol………but how is it that we know this? they actually pay people to give then info that is sh!t compared to our info
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:27 AM - 21 May, 2015
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The obsession with the K, KW series is because of "word of mouth" due to is dependability, reliability, mixer section and the fact that it could not be blown by the Amateur dj who didn't no shit about speakers and would abuse it every night without failure. That was unheard of at the time........

it was before its time in 2008.

this is the reason for it popularity


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QSC is still the most rented gear. EV & RCF are not as recognized by the avg DJ. QSC JBL Peavey Mackie shit even Behringer

100% correct , but it's not the best sounding speaker @ it's price point buy a long shot


The avg DJ don't care about sound quality. They want loud.
Joee 1:31 AM - 21 May, 2015
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QSC is still the most rented gear. EV & RCF are not as recognized by the avg DJ. QSC JBL Peavey Mackie shit even Behringer

forgot to post this……..i'm drunk….lol

ev is know as one of the BEST speaker brands all around ………


when i i was i young boy 16 years old…….my dream was to own a crown amp & ev speakers

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The avg DJ don't care about sound quality. JM want loud zxa5

fixed……lol

me i do care about quality sound quality……lol
Joee 1:33 AM - 21 May, 2015
^ clean sound travels further than loud distorted sound
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:39 AM - 21 May, 2015
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^ clean sound travels further than loud distorted sound


We know that...common sense to us. But how many people here on this board have said how their Alto or Peavey's hit hard and kill a 300 person crowd.
desmorider 1:47 AM - 21 May, 2015
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Our speaker discussion here is yeeeears ahead of its time, it will be yeears before RCF is a household name in the average dj world.


That's crazy. I've been rocking with rcf/eaw from 20 years ago while rocking at clubs in the Hamptons. Most dj cats I speak to about eaw,rcf,xta,bss,lab gruppen,powersoft etc, etc, look at me like I'm speaking a foreign language. For most, if they don't see it in the big box stores, they are not fucking with it.
desmorider 1:57 AM - 21 May, 2015
Most dj's out there just want to do two on sticks and that's it. I remember when the srm450's first came out, it was like mackie sent out a set of those to every mobile dj in the USA. I didn't care how big the crowd was at gig, could be 50 folks or 500, they still tried to rock the party with 2-12's on sticks. God forbid you asked them about a subwoofer, they would look at you like you had 4 heads. The gear we talk about here will probably take the average dj cats 3-5 years to grasp, and them to start thinking it's the shit. That's why I love this place, a bunch of folks that are serious about their gear. A lot of knowledgeable cats here that know their trade.

Thanks Guys for making this a great place.
DJ Guayo 3:35 AM - 21 May, 2015
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Most dj's out there just want to do two on sticks and that's it. I remember when the srm450's first came out, it was like mackie sent out a set of those to every mobile dj in the USA. I didn't care how big the crowd was at gig, could be 50 folks or 500, they still tried to rock the party with 2-12's on sticks. God forbid you asked them about a subwoofer, they would look at you like you had 4 heads. The gear we talk about here will probably take the average dj cats 3-5 years to grasp, and them to start thinking it's the shit. That's why I love this place, a bunch of folks that are serious about their gear. A lot of knowledgeable cats here that know their trade.

Thanks Guys for making this a great place.


Yup I started off with that b52 matrix junk. Got rid of it since the amp is built into the sub for the tops and having trouble with it. I then got the KW 152 cause of brand recognition. Now I moved over to RCF. My dj friends have never heard of the brand but when I cranked them bad boys up.... In the words of prince 'game blouses' lol
Rebelguy 4:19 AM - 21 May, 2015
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ev is know as one of the BEST speaker brands all around ………



I have been doing mobiles for over 20 years and EV was never a main brand in my area. The only EV speaker I ever saw from another mobile company was the MTL-4. Other than that it was JBL, Cerwin Vega and Community.
pdidy 5:03 AM - 21 May, 2015
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MTL-4

the first time i heard a ev MTL-4 i was like wtf !!!
at the time had old school www.sonicspeaker.com
Joee 11:22 AM - 21 May, 2015
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I have been doing mobiles for over 20 years and EV was never a main brand in my area. The only EV speaker I ever saw from another mobile company was the MTL-4. Other than that it was JBL, Cerwin Vega and Community.

well philadelphia must have been light years ahead of the speaker game


because most dj's/bars/clubs out here were using ev , the first bar i stared dj'ing in when i was 16 had ev & it was a hood bar
DJ GaFFle 3:10 PM - 21 May, 2015
I've known about the quality of EV since the 80's. DJ's are asleep if they don't know.
Rebelguy 3:20 PM - 21 May, 2015
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I have been doing mobiles for over 20 years and EV was never a main brand in my area. The only EV speaker I ever saw from another mobile company was the MTL-4. Other than that it was JBL, Cerwin Vega and Community.

well philadelphia must have been light years ahead of the speaker game


because most dj's/bars/clubs out here were using ev , the first bar i stared dj'ing in when i was 16 had ev & it was a hood bar


Maybe it was a regional thing or that the other brand had better marketing. I am not doubting they are good speakers but they weren't carried in many of the stores in my area.
Rebelguy 3:22 PM - 21 May, 2015
A restaurant chain I have been working with has been using EVs for monitors in their DJ booths but their main systems have been EAW and Renkus Heinz.
djsmuve415 6:04 PM - 21 May, 2015
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A restaurant chain I have been working with has been using EVs for monitors in their DJ booths but their main systems have been EAW

most of the S.F. Bay Area clubs & lounges have been using the Mackie 450 as monitors & EAW for their mains combo for years. I know a lot of dudes on here hate on the Mackie's - but when thats all u've been playing on for like a decade, and u don't do mobiles - then thats what u become familiar with. just like turntables & technics. U developed a sense after all that time and use when a Mackie was gonna take a shit on you, be it volume, or temperature of the club, or both. since then, I've been fortunate to have played on EV's and have become a fan. good stuff.
Taipanic 6:29 PM - 21 May, 2015
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I've known about the quality of EV since the 80's. DJ's are asleep if they don't know.


+1
I've had EV cabinets since 1990 or so. Still rock a pair of SX200s that are probably 20 years old, sound great with a single LS800p sub.

I think QSC should have not waited quite as long for new P.A. gear as they have lost customer base but they do have some of the best recognition & reputation so it probably won't really bother them in the big picture. Even an announcement/preview of coming gear would have made a lot of peeps hold up on buying new lower end EV, Yamaha, & JBL lines.
Joee 6:34 PM - 21 May, 2015
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there was a time when mackie had a great speakers that were made for them by RCF the
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some of the best boxes around in there price point IMO, EAW was great..i have no experience with any of there boxes since EAW sold to mackie
Joee 6:40 PM - 21 May, 2015
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+1
I've had EV cabinets since 1990 or so. Still rock a pair of SX200s that are probably 20 years old, sound great with a single LS800p sub.

I think QSC should have not waited quite as long for new P.A. gear as they have lost customer base but they do have some of the best recognition & reputation so it probably won't really bother them in the big picture. Even an announcement/preview of coming gear would have made a lot of peeps hold up on buying new lower end EV, Yamaha, & JBL lines.

i'm show you what i used to carry around , i didn't alway have light weight speakers….lol

70lbs they were beast sounding speakers, i think they sound better than the zxa5
www.electrovoice.com

with this 70lbs amp
data.manualslib.com
DJ GaFFle 10:29 PM - 21 May, 2015
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I've known about the quality of EV since the 80's. DJ's are asleep if they don't know.


+1
I've had EV cabinets since 1990 or so. Still rock a pair of SX200s that are probably 20 years old, sound great with a single LS800p sub.

I think QSC should have not waited quite as long for new P.A. gear as they have lost customer base but they do have some of the best recognition & reputation so it probably won't really bother them in the big picture. Even an announcement/preview of coming gear would have made a lot of peeps hold up on buying new lower end EV, Yamaha, & JBL lines.

i'm show you what i used to carry around , i didn't alway have light weight speakers….lol

70lbs they were beast sounding speakers, i think they sound better than the zxa5
www.electrovoice.com

Those look... well, if someone doesn't like the look of the RCF745's, they would hate THOSE Ev's. I recall seeing them often in the early 2k's. I remember the texture looked like the roughest plastic known to man and really ashy!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:10 AM - 22 May, 2015
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the first time i heard a ev MTL-4 i was like wtf !!!

at the time had old school www.sonicspeaker.com


Dude, you had my speakers?

www.djjohnnym.com
pdidy 7:19 AM - 22 May, 2015
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the first time i heard a ev MTL-4 i was like wtf !!!

at the time had old school www.sonicspeaker.com


Dude, you had my speakers?

www.djjohnnym.com

i Had all three versions, started with the scoop subs then W folded horn and then L36 version like these i26.photobucket.com
DJSCIASCIA 4:07 PM - 22 May, 2015
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the first time i heard a ev MTL-4 i was like wtf !!!

at the time had old school www.sonicspeaker.com


Dude, you had my speakers?

www.djjohnnym.com

i Had all three versions, started with the scoop subs then W folded horn and then L36 version like these i26.photobucket.com



Those were Canal Hi-Fi signature speakers. I would walk in that place and that's all I saw was Wall to wall Sonic speakers.
Asu 7:54 PM - 22 May, 2015
Well we were right,something is coming.just got an e-mail about new products and technologies/demonstrations at the upcoming Infocom 2015 which is mostly corporate new gear but I expect something for us down the road and appropriate conventions.



Here's a quote "If you're heading to InfoComm 2015, these must-see demos will help you rethink how you integrate next-generation corporate AV systems, while also giving you an up-close look at our latest amps and loudspeakers."

key being "latest amps and loudspeakers"...I'm sure there's something for the Dj at appropriate events later this year.

QSC just waited for all to reveal their hand :-)
Viking16 2:35 PM - 23 May, 2015
Hi all.

Been tracking the thread. A lot of good info and comments made. I recently demoed the srx 812p vs. the the etx 12p. They were both very musical. I liked the fullness of the srx. I was amazed at the amount of clear bottom end out of the srx. I didn't think a 12 inch would produce that much thump and it wasn't sloppy. The ext was overall was balanced but had more sparkle/sizzel at the top end that the srx didn't have naturally. Both boxes were set flat, no fancy DSP adjustments. I listened to multiple genres of music. I even compared them to the infamous zxa5. It wasn't a true comparison seeing that the zxa5 has a 15 inch speaker but in all honesty I wasn't overall impressed with it, the zxa5. The bass tone was not as controlled and the top end seemed as though it would scream at high volumes. It seems to naturally have a smilie faced eq tuning from factory. It would definitely benefit from external DSP or eqing. Having said that, most to all speakers would benefit from some DSP and equing but if the idea is to carry less equipment and still get the job done, then these newer more advanced speakers like the ext or srx would be the way to go. The salesman didn't even push me towards the zxa5 even though I mentioned it even though it costs more. He felt that the newer technology was the way to go. Not sure if these comments help anyone. Just my experience and opinion.
Viking16 2:40 PM - 23 May, 2015
The store where I listened to the speakers didn't have the 15 inch versions of the ext or srx in stock but both will be available for demo shortly. I will then post results/comments.
desmorider 6:32 PM - 23 May, 2015
Etx not ext
Viking16 2:23 PM - 24 May, 2015
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Correct. I meant etx.
Johnnynights 6:28 PM - 26 May, 2015
I started messing with the standalone app on the ipad with my srx815p and i dont like how i have to use a router with it and more cables(phoneline)

I guess thats the way it is lol...

If any of you guys been messing with the dsp on the back of the speaker keep me posted on which preset sounds good,ive been using number 50 it sounds a bit more fuller but i dont notice much of a difference.
pdidy 11:37 PM - 26 May, 2015
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I started messing with the standalone app on the ipad with my srx815p and i dont like how i have to use a router with it and more cables(phoneline)

just like the cardioid subwoofers feature on the ev ETX, the remote app feature in the srx series will see very little action in the real world of the mobile dj.
DJ GaFFle 11:49 PM - 26 May, 2015
KISS... I'm starting to not like the idea of these feature-laden DSP's on the back of powered speakers. Just more stuff to misconfigure or fail.
Johnnynights 12:06 AM - 27 May, 2015
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I started messing with the standalone app on the ipad with my srx815p and i dont like how i have to use a router with it and more cables(phoneline)

just like the cardioid subwoofers feature on the ev ETX, the remote app feature in the srx series will see very little action in the real world of the mobile dj.

Yeah so far i think thats one of the things im dissapointed...
Rebelguy 12:07 AM - 27 May, 2015
The manufacturers have to add something to justify charging more for speakers. Wattage and SPL have been overused.
Johnnynights 12:08 AM - 27 May, 2015
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KISS... I'm starting to not like the idea of these feature-laden DSP's on the back of powered speakers. Just more stuff to misconfigure or fail.

I agree,and plus how these speakers dsp on the back of the speaker are set by numbers i gone threw most of them and i feel like theres not a big difference...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:24 AM - 27 May, 2015
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KISS... I'm starting to not like the idea of these feature-laden DSP's on the back of powered speakers. Just more stuff to misconfigure or fail.


****evil laugh*****
DJEASY 2:18 AM - 27 May, 2015
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I started messing with the standalone app on the ipad with my srx815p and i dont like how i have to use a router with it and more cables(phoneline)

I guess thats the way it is lol...

If any of you guys been messing with the dsp on the back of the speaker keep me posted on which preset sounds good,ive been using number 50 it sounds a bit more fuller but i dont notice much of a difference.
DJEASY 2:26 AM - 27 May, 2015
JOHNNYNIGHTS the presets are from 1-8 that come factory programmed..from 9-50 are your personal presets where you will be able to NAME and EQ /COMP/CROSSOVER/etc...but you will need to PROGRAM yourself...using AUDIOTECH /HIQnet program on laptop,,once its SET then you SAVE to SPEAKER number from 9-50..now SRX CONNECT you will not be able to save to presets on speakers but could save on TABLET or DEVICE...
DJEASY 2:34 AM - 27 May, 2015
thanks to PDIDY...i figured it out in less than 1 hour..the HIQNET looks confusing but it really easy to use..once you CONFIGURE these speakers (DSP)..they are just AMAZING..i have the SRX815P and SRX818SP (2x2) this system sounds INCREDIBLE..
pdidy 2:55 AM - 27 May, 2015
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thanks to PDIDY...i figured it out in less than 1 hour..the HIQNET looks confusing but it really easy to use..once you CONFIGURE these speakers (DSP)..they are just AMAZING..i have the SRX815P and SRX818SP (2x2) this system sounds INCREDIBLE..

Would be nice if you could make a simple/short video displaying your srx speakers connected to ipad, router and required wiring to all speakers. I dont believe there are any on youtube yet.
DJEASY 3:06 AM - 27 May, 2015
will do when i do another preset
Johnnynights 2:07 AM - 28 May, 2015
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JOHNNYNIGHTS the presets are from 1-8 that come factory programmed..from 9-50 are your personal presets where you will be able to NAME and EQ /COMP/CROSSOVER/etc...but you will need to PROGRAM yourself...using AUDIOTECH /HIQnet program on laptop,,once its SET then you SAVE to SPEAKER number from 9-50..now SRX CONNECT you will not be able to save to presets on speakers but could save on TABLET or DEVICE...

Thanks for the info when i have time i will test that out,i really need to mess with the dsp because i have some outdoor gigs coming up and would like to have a lil more processing.
Johnnynights 2:09 AM - 28 May, 2015
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thanks to PDIDY...i figured it out in less than 1 hour..the HIQNET looks confusing but it really easy to use..once you CONFIGURE these speakers (DSP)..they are just AMAZING..i have the SRX815P and SRX818SP (2x2) this system sounds INCREDIBLE..

If you can make a video that would be helpful,but with the app im dissapointed maybe its just me,but ill give that hiqnet a try to save some presets...
Rebelguy 5:46 PM - 28 May, 2015
Did any of the people that purchased the new SRX cabs own PRX700 series cabinets before? I was looking at the SRX812Ps but have not had a chance to demo them in person. I have worked with the PRX710s and PRX712s and they were solid cabinets. I'm just curious if the sound quality of the SRX cabinets is worth close to double the price of the PRX cabinets. I don't really care about the app portion of the speakers.
DJFree 5:48 PM - 28 May, 2015
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Did any of the people that purchased the new SRX cabs own PRX700 series cabinets before? I was looking at the SRX812Ps but have not had a chance to demo them in person. I have worked with the PRX710s and PRX712s and they were solid cabinets. I'm just curious if the sound quality of the SRX cabinets is worth close to double the price of the PRX cabinets. I don't really care about the app portion of the speakers.

Same. I have the PRX 712's and I'm wondering if they're worth upgrading to the 812's.
Joee 6:00 PM - 28 May, 2015
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Same. I have the PRX 712's and I'm wondering if they're worth upgrading to the 812's.

didn't you get the srx 18" sub? if i remember correctly you said it wasn't that big of an improvement over the prx 18"

might be the same for the tops
DJFree 6:08 PM - 28 May, 2015
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Same. I have the PRX 712's and I'm wondering if they're worth upgrading to the 812's.

didn't you get the srx 18" sub? if i remember correctly you said it wasn't that big of an improvement over the prx 18"

might be the same for the tops

I do. Took it out 2 weekends ago....has more headroom than the 718xlf....noticeable....never seen the limit display...and I only have one so I had to push it as the night went on....so I'm interested in the 812's but I don't have to upgrade right now BUT I would like to know the difference between the two from someone that has used both.
Johnnynights 12:56 AM - 29 May, 2015
To be honest the stand alone app is not that great,you need to carry a router with you,more cables etc...unless you want to do that then is great...


From my review on the srx815p so far there great but i expected way more...to me it seems like they limit easily and supposably they have a 2000 watt amp..and i run odb on my master and pure greens on my controller,also when i use my 62 i keep it clean no clipping...

I would like to make a video soon just to show how they limit,just been kinda busy but ill try to make it.
Johnnynights 12:57 AM - 29 May, 2015
Also more like a 1000 amp and 2000 watt peak amp
DJFree 1:01 AM - 29 May, 2015
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Also more like a 1000 amp and 2000 watt peak amp

What subs are you using with them? Did you have the 7 series prior?
Johnnynights 3:06 AM - 29 May, 2015
Im using them with a yorkville ls801p but when they limit im just using them on there own,no i didnt own the 7 series but i have used them before...
DJFree 5:09 PM - 29 May, 2015
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Im using them with a yorkville ls801p but when they limit im just using them on there own,no i didnt own the 7 series but i have used them before...

Cool gotcha. Think I'll stay where I'm at although I've never used my 12's standalone except once at a party for 40 people.
Johnnynights 5:36 PM - 29 May, 2015
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Im using them with a yorkville ls801p but when they limit im just using them on there own,no i didnt own the 7 series but i have used them before...

Cool gotcha. Think I'll stay where I'm at although I've never used my 12's standalone except once at a party for 40 people.

Yeah i think youll be better how you are,the srx815p from the prx 715 the only differences i really noticed are that the srx815 has more bass and a bit louder but you cant tell that much also only the srx has the app and hiqnet stuff(its ok but i was expecting better)
Joee 5:40 PM - 29 May, 2015
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the srx815p from the prx 715 the only differences i really noticed are that the srx815 has more bass and a bit louder but you cant tell that much

crazy considering the prx has a 1.5" compression driver vs. the srx 3.0" compression drive


i would expect it to be much louder considering the horn driver doubled in size
DJ GaFFle 6:58 PM - 29 May, 2015
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the srx815p from the prx 715 the only differences i really noticed are that the srx815 has more bass and a bit louder but you cant tell that much

crazy considering the prx has a 1.5" compression driver vs. the srx 3.0" compression drive


i would expect it to be much louder considering the horn driver doubled in size

This is one dude's perspective. I take it he didn't do very extensive sound comparison tests. I'd be more pressed for clarity and throw at loud volumes over just sheer loudness. That's where I think that 3" horn shines, clarity when cranked.
Johnnynights 7:14 PM - 29 May, 2015
Yeah thats my experience but go check them out and see....they do get a bit louder and maintain there clarity at high volumes but ill tell you is not that much go do a side by side =)
Johnnynights 7:23 PM - 29 May, 2015
When i test speakers i dont just go by loudness i go from all angles,far,close,sides and also no clipping on my mixers or serato,i also set the channel gains on the speakers where no distortion....ill tell you these speakers are worth it they sound sweet...but for the money i expected a little more just my opinion =)
DJ GaFFle 10:06 PM - 29 May, 2015
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Yeah thats my experience but go check them out and see....they do get a bit louder and maintain there clarity at high volumes but ill tell you is not that much go do a side by side =)

That would be enough for me to decide the SRX815's over the PRX715's... easy.
DJ GaFFle 12:17 AM - 30 May, 2015
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@Gaffle So are you going to get some of these new SRXs to go with your Danleys, or what?

Naw... If I were to get some, it would be the SRX835's but I'm really just wanting a pair of Danley SM80's or RCF TT2-A's.
Rebelguy 1:11 AM - 31 May, 2015
Here's a good review about the 835s from prosoundweb.

"I have a venue which I spec'd the SRX-835P's for. I can say that they sound better than any SRX I have heard, but they will not get as loud as they say they will on paper. The amp and speaker elements package is great, but do not be fooled by the V5 tuning they tout. The thing that is working for the new SRX boxes is the high and mid drivers. One is directly from their flagship line and the mid is using borrowed technologies. The low woofer is a new design, but performs great. The SRX-835P sounds exactly like the Spec's suggest. It is pretty flat with a small boost in teh low end from 100hz down to about 50-60hz. The midrange is rather smooth and flat with a slight presence boost around 12k for air.

The box utilizes FIR filters and although it only comes stock with a handful of presets, each one works for it's intended purpose. There are 0, zip, nada, none, no.......... V5 tuning presets in stock form. What they don't tell you is that you must have the HiQ Performance Manager software to access the optional V5 tunings. This is a $400 single user option......... I get the feeling the V5 tuning will simply further flatten the sonic content of the speaker?

The basic functionality of the amp settings with HiQ Audio Architect is pretty good. You have access to 20 parametric EQ's as stated, you can do input compression, delay and level controls. There are a few shortcomings. The input mixer ( 2 channels with independent volume control ) is pointless when using it with line level equipment. When set for consumer ( which I imagine is so you can simply plug in your ipod ) you may need it and of course with it's mic level setting you will need it. With line level, you would almost always have it set for 0. It does not go higher than that for the input. It has an output fader much like that of a real mixer. You can go from infinity gain to 0db ( unity ) gain to +12db of gain. This is obviously to make up gain from EQ cuts. Where it's confusing is that the level meters supplied are not very readable and there is no db read out. The output meter is connected to the amps output and represents what the amp is capable of producing. So a clip on the output meter is a clip in the amp. The readout towards the end of output is very small and when running within 3db of the limit, the speaker is certainly not producing more than 130db........ In theory at that point it should be close to 134db. The level meters also show RMS levels as well and this may be the missing link to why level is not as loud as the papers suggest, but even with pre recorded media the RMS value doesn't seem to change much vs that of live music.

The limiter in the amp is somewhat adjustable and in stock form is set pretty modestly at a -10db threshold. So needless to say it starts to kick in early. I have yet to play with it much to see if is an option to run against the rails and get more safe SPL out? I set it for -3db figuring that I never intend to be that high anyway and the limiting would be sparse if I did. There are a few things I have yet to try and see about getting more usable level out of these things. I have yet to do input compression and play with the limiter for the purpose of gain maximization."
SG SOUNDS 1:50 PM - 31 May, 2015
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Here's a good review about the 835s from prosoundweb.

"I have a venue which I spec'd the SRX-835P's for. I can say that they sound better than any SRX I have heard, but they will not get as loud as they say they will on paper. The amp and speaker elements package is great, but do not be fooled by the V5 tuning they tout. The thing that is working for the new SRX boxes is the high and mid drivers. One is directly from their flagship line and the mid is using borrowed technologies. The low woofer is a new design, but performs great. The SRX-835P sounds exactly like the Spec's suggest. It is pretty flat with a small boost in teh low end from 100hz down to about 50-60hz. The midrange is rather smooth and flat with a slight presence boost around 12k for air.

The box utilizes FIR filters and although it only comes stock with a handful of presets, each one works for it's intended purpose. There are 0, zip, nada, none, no.......... V5 tuning presets in stock form. What they don't tell you is that you must have the HiQ Performance Manager software to access the optional V5 tunings. This is a $400 single user option......... I get the feeling the V5 tuning will simply further flatten the sonic content of the speaker?

The basic functionality of the amp settings with HiQ Audio Architect is pretty good. You have access to 20 parametric EQ's as stated, you can do input compression, delay and level controls. There are a few shortcomings. The input mixer ( 2 channels with independent volume control ) is pointless when using it with line level equipment. When set for consumer ( which I imagine is so you can simply plug in your ipod ) you may need it and of course with it's mic level setting you will need it. With line level, you would almost always have it set for 0. It does not go higher than that for the input. It has an output fader much like that of a real mixer. You can go from infinity gain to 0db ( unity ) gain to +12db of gain. This is obviously to make up gain from EQ cuts. Where it's confusing is that the level meters supplied are not very readable and there is no db read out. The output meter is connected to the amps output and represents what the amp is capable of producing. So a clip on the output meter is a clip in the amp. The readout towards the end of output is very small and when running within 3db of the limit, the speaker is certainly not producing more than 130db........ In theory at that point it should be close to 134db. The level meters also show RMS levels as well and this may be the missing link to why level is not as loud as the papers suggest, but even with pre recorded media the RMS value doesn't seem to change much vs that of live music.

The limiter in the amp is somewhat adjustable and in stock form is set pretty modestly at a -10db threshold. So needless to say it starts to kick in early. I have yet to play with it much to see if is an option to run against the rails and get more safe SPL out? I set it for -3db figuring that I never intend to be that high anyway and the limiting would be sparse if I did. There are a few things I have yet to try and see about getting more usable level out of these things. I have yet to do input compression and play with the limiter for the purpose of gain maximization."


The ev etx35p sounds better imo...
Taipanic 1:51 AM - 1 June, 2015
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@Gaffle So are you going to get some of these new SRXs to go with your Danleys, or what?

Naw... If I were to get some, it would be the SRX835's but I'm really just wanting a pair of Danley SM80's or RCF TT2-A's.

Danley is debuting a bunch of new gear at Infocomm Orlando. Supposed to be some new items on a smaller (more affordable?) scale. I'll be there to check them out
desmorider 1:54 AM - 1 June, 2015
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@Gaffle So are you going to get some of these new SRXs to go with your Danleys, or what?

Naw... If I were to get some, it would be the SRX835's but I'm really just wanting a pair of Danley SM80's or RCF TT2-A's.

Danley is debuting a bunch of new gear at Infocomm Orlando. Supposed to be some new items on a smaller (more affordable?) scale. I'll be there to check them out



That's whats up..............
DJ GaFFle 11:07 AM - 1 June, 2015
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@Gaffle So are you going to get some of these new SRXs to go with your Danleys, or what?

Naw... If I were to get some, it would be the SRX835's but I'm really just wanting a pair of Danley SM80's or RCF TT2-A's.

Danley is debuting a bunch of new gear at Infocomm Orlando. Supposed to be some new items on a smaller (more affordable?) scale. I'll be there to check them out



That's whats up..............

Yeah... I wish I could check it out. I can hop in the car and visit them anytime though, Danley Sound Labs is only 50 miles away from me. :-D
Rebelguy 9:08 PM - 2 June, 2015
Pretty interesting read on prosoundweb from a user who called JBL with questions about the SRX800 line.

"I just got my callback from a JBL product manager. Here are the high points of our conversation:

- JBL considers the SRX800P series to be the "best product available at the high end of the consumer level" In other words, of the stuff you can buy without a dealer relationship, JBL believes this product is the best out there at its price point.

- The SRX800P series is measured in the same manner as previous boxes such as the SRX700 and STX800 series, therefore the spec sheets should be roughly comparable. In other words, the SRX800P series should outperform the prior SRX700 and STX800 series, as well as sound significantly better.

- Due to the lower price, higher performance, and better sound quality of the SRX800P series and future passive SRX800 series boxes, JBL expects them to be more popular and will ultimately probably replace the STX series.

- Though the listed amplifier power of the SRX800P series subs are 1000w/2000w and the power capacity of the STX800 series is 8000w, JBL says the amplifier in the SRX800P series was custom designed for the drivers in the subs, and is capable of fully driving them.

- JBL's definition of a "V5" tuning is a preset that is flat phase using FIR, plus LevelMax limiters. The SRX800P series has these features, and therefore is a "V5" box using the main/monitor/speech/etc presets. There is no additional functionality gained by using Performance Manager, and in fact Performance Manager does not currently support SRX800P. He thought it likely that they will eventually be supported, but they aren't now.

- LevelMax is a big deal. We didn't get too far into this discussion, but LevelMax is pretty intelligent and can do quite a bit of squishing while minimally affecting sound quality. In other words, don't worry about being into the limiters a bit.

I asked about the perceived early limiting/lower than expected SPL, and he stated that they were familiar with all of their competitor's boxes while designing the SRX800P series, and that they shouldn't underperform."
DJFree 9:10 PM - 2 June, 2015
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Pretty interesting read on prosoundweb from a user who called JBL with questions about the SRX800 line.

"I just got my callback from a JBL product manager. Here are the high points of our conversation:

- JBL considers the SRX800P series to be the "best product available at the high end of the consumer level" In other words, of the stuff you can buy without a dealer relationship, JBL believes this product is the best out there at its price point.


- The SRX800P series is measured in the same manner as previous boxes such as the SRX700 and STX800 series, therefore the spec sheets should be roughly comparable. In other words, the SRX800P series should outperform the prior SRX700 and STX800 series, as well as sound significantly better.

- Due to the lower price, higher performance, and better sound quality of the SRX800P series and future passive SRX800 series boxes, JBL expects them to be more popular and will ultimately probably replace the STX series.

- Though the listed amplifier power of the SRX800P series subs are 1000w/2000w and the power capacity of the STX800 series is 8000w, JBL says the amplifier in the SRX800P series was custom designed for the drivers in the subs, and is capable of fully driving them.

- JBL's definition of a "V5" tuning is a preset that is flat phase using FIR, plus LevelMax limiters. The SRX800P series has these features, and therefore is a "V5" box using the main/monitor/speech/etc presets. There is no additional functionality gained by using Performance Manager, and in fact Performance Manager does not currently support SRX800P. He thought it likely that they will eventually be supported, but they aren't now.

- LevelMax is a big deal. We didn't get too far into this discussion, but LevelMax is pretty intelligent and can do quite a bit of squishing while minimally affecting sound quality. In other words, don't worry about being into the limiters a bit.

I asked about the perceived early limiting/lower than expected SPL, and he stated that they were familiar with all of their competitor's boxes while designing the SRX800P series, and that they shouldn't underperform."

Nice.
DJFree 9:12 PM - 2 June, 2015
I'll tell you one thing.....these speaker covers crazy expensive....I paid 90 bucks for my 718XLF cover.....the SRX 818 covers are just coming in stock.....160 dollars!
Rebelguy 9:37 PM - 2 June, 2015
That's another reason I'm considering the EV ETX line. There lower price and free bag promo is a big win for them.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:04 PM - 2 June, 2015
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Theirlower price and free bag promo is a big win for them.


That bag is da bomb!
desmorider 11:17 PM - 2 June, 2015
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Theirlower price and free bag promo is a big win for them.


That bag is da bomb!


Johnny, Were you able to get the bags? Or did it just start?
Don480 6:44 AM - 3 June, 2015
Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I have been debating now for some time and cannot seem to find too many reviews on the JBL SRX835p. I have been going back and forth trying to decide between the JBL SRX835p, EV ETX-35p, RCF TT2A, RCF ART-745a, and even the RCF 4pro-6001a. The RCFs are a lot more expensive and I do prefer a 3-way box but noticed the dispersion pattern is quite narrow. It will be used for live sound mainly and some music for parties. So I am looking for something that is good for both with good volume and good clarity. Has anyone have a chance to do a side by side comparison with any of these?
DJ GaFFle 10:55 AM - 3 June, 2015
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I have been debating now for some time and cannot seem to find too many reviews on the JBL SRX835p. I have been going back and forth trying to decide between the JBL SRX835p, EV ETX-35p, RCF TT2A, RCF ART-745a, and even the RCF 4pro-6001a. The RCFs are a lot more expensive and I do prefer a 3-way box but noticed the dispersion pattern is quite narrow. It will be used for live sound mainly and some music for parties. So I am looking for something that is good for both with good volume and good clarity. Has anyone have a chance to do a side by side comparison with any of these?

For ME... I'd take the RCF TT2A all day, ANY day. Here's a video of its baby brother, the 10" RCF TT1A... Watchwww.youtube.com

I suspect the SRX835P will probably have more clarity and full-range sound due to its 3-way design but the TT2A is an absolute top-tier box. It's heavy for a 12" powered speaker (74 lbs) but this is due to its highest quality components and robust cabinet construction. The amps in them are made by Powersoft and they make some of the best PA amplifiers in the touring market. I'd guesstimate the TT2A's 12" would probably hit harder than and just as low as any larger MI-level 15" 2-way powered box. Its cabinet is pretty big for a 12" but it's probably a testament to the speaker's output and sound quality. I want this speaker pretty bad but at ~$3800 each (probably a little less street price), they're way on the backburner.

The SRX835 is an absolute screamer and sounds really good. I've heard it a few times and for most any mobile DJ, it's all the top-end sound you'd ever need. The 3-way design makes it loud and very clear. The only real knocks on it, from a mobile DJ perspective, are its large size and heavy weight (85 lbs). Putting this on and keeping it stable on a tripod pole mount is probably a little testy. Stacking it on top of a double 18" sub has you at the right height for most any gig.

If you ONLY will have a pair of speakers with NO subs, I'd recommend the 3-way boxes (SRX835 or ETX35P). They easily go lower than a 2-way top speaker is capable of and give a more complete all-in-one solution sound.
SG SOUNDS 1:16 PM - 3 June, 2015
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I have been debating now for some time and cannot seem to find too many reviews on the JBL SRX835p. I have been going back and forth trying to decide between the JBL SRX835p, EV ETX-35p, RCF TT2A, RCF ART-745a, and even the RCF 4pro-6001a. The RCFs are a lot more expensive and I do prefer a 3-way box but noticed the dispersion pattern is quite narrow. It will be used for live sound mainly and some music for parties. So I am looking for something that is good for both with good volume and good clarity. Has anyone have a chance to do a side by side comparison with any of these?


You will love the ETX-35p stand alone or stacked up on subs..i personally own them and prefer the sound of the eve's over the jbl...But either way you can't go wrong with the EV ETX-35p or the JBL SRX835p...
DJFree 2:21 PM - 3 June, 2015
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I have been debating now for some time and cannot seem to find too many reviews on the JBL SRX835p. I have been going back and forth trying to decide between the JBL SRX835p, EV ETX-35p, RCF TT2A, RCF ART-745a, and even the RCF 4pro-6001a. The RCFs are a lot more expensive and I do prefer a 3-way box but noticed the dispersion pattern is quite narrow. It will be used for live sound mainly and some music for parties. So I am looking for something that is good for both with good volume and good clarity. Has anyone have a chance to do a side by side comparison with any of these?

For ME... I'd take the RCF TT2A all day, ANY day. Here's a video of its baby brother, the 10" RCF TT1A... Watchwww.youtube.com

I suspect the SRX835P will probably have more clarity and full-range sound due to its 3-way design but the TT2A is an absolute top-tier box. It's heavy for a 12" powered speaker (74 lbs) but this is due to its highest quality components and robust cabinet construction. The amps in them are made by Powersoft and they make some of the best PA amplifiers in the touring market. I'd guesstimate the TT2A's 12" would probably hit harder than and just as low as any larger MI-level 15" 2-way powered box. Its cabinet is pretty big for a 12" but it's probably a testament to the speaker's output and sound quality. I want this speaker pretty bad but at ~$3800 each (probably a little less street price), they're way on the backburner.

The SRX835 is an absolute screamer and sounds really good. I've heard it a few times and for most any mobile DJ, it's all the top-end sound you'd ever need. The 3-way design makes it loud and very clear. The only real knocks on it, from a mobile DJ perspective, are its large size and heavy weight (85 lbs). Putting this on and keeping it stable on a tripod pole mount is probably a little testy. Stacking it on top of a double 18" sub has you at the right height for most any gig.

If you ONLY will have a pair of speakers with NO subs, I'd recommend the 3-way boxes (SRX835 or ETX35P). They easily go lower than a 2-way top speaker is capable of and give a more complete all-in-one solution sound.

That RCF TT2A speaker is 3 stacks.......I hope it's better lol
Viking16 1:16 AM - 4 June, 2015
For all the JBL experts who have experience using Audio Architect, can or does Motion Control have the ability to control these new srx 800 boxes?

Thanks
pdidy 2:30 AM - 4 June, 2015
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For all the JBL experts who have experience using Audio Architect, can or does Motion Control have the ability to control these new srx 800 boxes?

Thanks

what is Motion Control ?
Asu 2:50 AM - 4 June, 2015
Though the listed amplifier power of the SRX800P series subs are 1000w/2000w and the power capacity of the STX800 series is 8000w, JBL says the amplifier in the SRX800P series was custom designed for the drivers in the subs, and is capable of fully driving them.

Corporate talk...what in the hell does that statement mean lol

i'm not buying it for now...i'll wait for real world reviews....the powered dual subs are very interesting and 60x40 3 way tops.
Viking16 3:51 AM - 4 June, 2015
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For all the JBL experts who have experience using Audio Architect, can or does Motion Control have the ability to control these new srx 800 boxes?

Thanks

what is Motion Control ?


It is on jbl's web site. It looks to be an app for iPad that allows some portability of features from audio architect (I think). I'm just guessing as I've never used either (audio architect or motion control). Srx connect seems to have limitations from what some people on the net in other forums have said. Not being able to save setings to the speaker cabinet from a tablet is a bit of a nusance imo. If motion control is a portable version of audio architect then it might be a better app instead of srx connect. (Just a guess, I could be totally wrong)
Don480 4:08 AM - 4 June, 2015
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I have been debating now for some time and cannot seem to find too many reviews on the JBL SRX835p. I have been going back and forth trying to decide between the JBL SRX835p, EV ETX-35p, RCF TT2A, RCF ART-745a, and even the RCF 4pro-6001a. The RCFs are a lot more expensive and I do prefer a 3-way box but noticed the dispersion pattern is quite narrow. It will be used for live sound mainly and some music for parties. So I am looking for something that is good for both with good volume and good clarity. Has anyone have a chance to do a side by side comparison with any of these?


You will love the ETX-35p stand alone or stacked up on subs..i personally own them and prefer the sound of the eve's over the jbl...But either way you can't go wrong with the EV ETX-35p or the JBL SRX835p...


Have you heard them both side by side? Also, do you know what size voice coils the ETX-35p uses? Thank you
Don480 4:14 AM - 4 June, 2015
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I have been debating now for some time and cannot seem to find too many reviews on the JBL SRX835p. I have been going back and forth trying to decide between the JBL SRX835p, EV ETX-35p, RCF TT2A, RCF ART-745a, and even the RCF 4pro-6001a. The RCFs are a lot more expensive and I do prefer a 3-way box but noticed the dispersion pattern is quite narrow. It will be used for live sound mainly and some music for parties. So I am looking for something that is good for both with good volume and good clarity. Has anyone have a chance to do a side by side comparison with any of these?

For ME... I'd take the RCF TT2A all day, ANY day. Here's a video of its baby brother, the 10" RCF TT1A... Watchwww.youtube.com

I suspect the SRX835P will probably have more clarity and full-range sound due to its 3-way design but the TT2A is an absolute top-tier box. It's heavy for a 12" powered speaker (74 lbs) but this is due to its highest quality components and robust cabinet construction. The amps in them are made by Powersoft and they make some of the best PA amplifiers in the touring market. I'd guesstimate the TT2A's 12" would probably hit harder than and just as low as any larger MI-level 15" 2-way powered box. Its cabinet is pretty big for a 12" but it's probably a testament to the speaker's output and sound quality. I want this speaker pretty bad but at ~$3800 each (probably a little less street price), they're way on the backburner.

The SRX835 is an absolute screamer and sounds really good. I've heard it a few times and for most any mobile DJ, it's all the top-end sound you'd ever need. The 3-way design makes it loud and very clear. The only real knocks on it, from a mobile DJ perspective, are its large size and heavy weight (85 lbs). Putting this on and keeping it stable on a tripod pole mount is probably a little testy. Stacking it on top of a double 18" sub has you at the right height for most any gig.

If you ONLY will have a pair of speakers with NO subs, I'd recommend the 3-way boxes (SRX835 or ETX35P). They easily go lower than a 2-way top speaker is capable of and give a more complete all-in-one solution sound.


Yeah the price on the TT2a are a bit pricey. Not sure if I want to spend that much for PA's. Wonder if it is even worth it for my purpose. I have heard the three way QSC KW-153 and was impressed but at super loud volumes it seems to struggle and loose focus and soundstage. I used to own a pair of K12 tops with a pair of KW181's and really wasn't using the subs much and wanted to simply into two 3 way tops. I live in Arizona. I wish I could audition these speakers but no one has either of them.

Currently, I am using the Bose L1 Model 2 with 2 bas modules and plan on returning it. Just wanted to try these out but I do have to say these have very clear sound and sounds more hifi and live sound....
pdidy 4:20 AM - 4 June, 2015
Watchwww.youtube.com

The last paragragh in the video inscription states.........

"HiQnet Network Control
With full HiQnet Network Integration, configuring an SRX800 system is dramatically simplified, saving time while fully automating the control interface configuration. Simple wired control is provided via Ethercon connector and third party wireless router capability is included. Control options include Audio Architect, HiQnet Motion ControlTM iOS app, and standalone applications for iOS and Android."

So the answer is yes it can control srx 800. cost $9.99
DJ GaFFle 10:17 AM - 4 June, 2015
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With full HiQnet Network Integration, configuring an SRX800 system is dramatically simplified, saving time while fully automating the control interface configuration. Simple wired control is provided via Ethercon connector and third party wireless router capability is included. Control options include Audio Architect, HiQnet Motion ControlTM iOS app, and standalone applications for iOS and Android."

So the answer is yes it can control srx 800. cost $9.99

My view: I ain't got time for all that...

For most gigs as a mobile DJ, I'm always fighting to achieve: lighter weight, less complexity, the best sound, and less stuff to carry/setup/breakdown, all while delivering the best presented product to my client(s). I pretty much want to plug in and go, that's part of the purpose of having "powered" speakers. I'm not doing tour-group or live-band sound with my setup so I don't want all those extraneous feature sets and added complexity. I don't want to bring a wireless router/network switch, several runs of CAT5/6 patch cabling, an extra laptop, plus extra software just to adjust control EQ or add a little delay, that I really may not even need, all for cool-factor points.

I get it, we all love new gear and gadgets but at this point, I'm not convinced this direction towards networked speaker control is really worth all the trouble for mobiles. What's y'alls goal for all these added speaker features and stuff? Where am I missing the possibilities?
Djc Jimenez 10:20 AM - 4 June, 2015
^^ This ^^

Agree 100%
DJ Guayo 1:00 PM - 4 June, 2015
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With full HiQnet Network Integration, configuring an SRX800 system is dramatically simplified, saving time while fully automating the control interface configuration. Simple wired control is provided via Ethercon connector and third party wireless router capability is included. Control options include Audio Architect, HiQnet Motion ControlTM iOS app, and standalone applications for iOS and Android."

So the answer is yes it can control srx 800. cost $9.99

My view: I ain't got time for all that...

For most gigs as a mobile DJ, I'm always fighting to achieve: lighter weight, less complexity, the best sound, and less stuff to carry/setup/breakdown, all while delivering the best presented product to my client(s). I pretty much want to plug in and go, that's part of the purpose of having "powered" speakers. I'm not doing tour-group or live-band sound with my setup so I don't want all those extraneous feature sets and added complexity. I don't want to bring a wireless router/network switch, several runs of CAT5/6 patch cabling, an extra laptop, plus extra software just to adjust control EQ or add a little delay, that I really may not even need, all for cool-factor points.

I get it, we all love new gear and gadgets but at this point, I'm not convinced this direction towards networked speaker control is really worth all the trouble for mobiles. What's y'alls goal for all these added speaker features and stuff? Where am I missing the possibilities?


Very good point. That was a major driving point for my recent purchase. I don't need the built in dsp. If i want to manage the sound, just add a sound processor, be it, Ashley, EV, driverack, etc. Especially if you are a one man team.
DJFree 1:23 PM - 4 June, 2015
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I'll never use the HiQnet stuff and didn't purchase my SRX for it...I do like being able to change the low pass capabilities and I like the meters on the back....I'm a plug and play guy....I got a ton of other things to worry about...as long as it sounds good to me I'm straight.
Joee 1:30 PM - 4 June, 2015
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I'll never use the HiQnet stuff and didn't purchase my SRX for it...I do like being able to change the low pass capabilities and I like the meters on the back....I'm a plug and play guy....I got a ton of other things to worry about...as long as it sounds good to me I'm straight.

now that you have more time spent with the sub, how are liking it?

is your opinion still the same as far as it not being that much of a upgrade from the 718xlf?

sorry if i asked this question before, not sure if i have
DJFree 1:35 PM - 4 June, 2015
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I'll never use the HiQnet stuff and didn't purchase my SRX for it...I do like being able to change the low pass capabilities and I like the meters on the back....I'm a plug and play guy....I got a ton of other things to worry about...as long as it sounds good to me I'm straight.

now that you have more time spent with the sub, how are liking it?

is your opinion still the same as far as it not being that much of a upgrade from the 718xlf?

sorry if i asked this question before, not sure if i have

I only took it out once. It's going out twice next weekend. All I noticed was I didn't see a limit come on and I pushed pretty good. I play loud at my weddings (per clients request) all Hip Hop & R&B so I was pleased because normally I hit the limit light on my 718xlf when only using one for 150 people. The test for me will be a party on July 3rd....300 people....I'll have my second one by then...
Joee 1:39 PM - 4 June, 2015
cool, thanks ….. seems like they have more output/power/headroom
Don480 2:08 PM - 4 June, 2015
So what are the consensus here? Could we have a vote from those who have heard both? EV ETX-35p or JBL SRX835p?
Rebelguy 2:36 PM - 4 June, 2015
More info from the prosoundweb forums.

"Despite my initial fear of acquiring spl, these are the best sounding boxes in stock form I have heard. They sound exactly like the spec sheet suggests. A bit of a low end and presence boost with a very flat mid range. With a crossover and some slight eq these boxes can be made to be very flat and linear. The coverage stated is also very accurate. The only week link is a slight difference in operational standards and the srx connect app. The app is almost useless. I tried running it tonight in conjunction with the AA software and they do not bode well together. The app pulls the names from the AA software, but they were reversed and eq as well as other parameters did not sync well. My suggestion is do not run both apps at the same time.

Then other features make it a no brainer. FIR filters , user presets, networking capability and elements that are shared with their flagship line. They are truly impossible to beat for the price. The EV , YAMAHA, and QSC offerings are certainly not bad, in fact they are quite good, but the whole package is hands down in JBL's favor. Great sounding, well performing and reasonably priced."
SG SOUNDS 2:51 PM - 4 June, 2015
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I have been debating now for some time and cannot seem to find too many reviews on the JBL SRX835p. I have been going back and forth trying to decide between the JBL SRX835p, EV ETX-35p, RCF TT2A, RCF ART-745a, and even the RCF 4pro-6001a. The RCFs are a lot more expensive and I do prefer a 3-way box but noticed the dispersion pattern is quite narrow. It will be used for live sound mainly and some music for parties. So I am looking for something that is good for both with good volume and good clarity. Has anyone have a chance to do a side by side comparison with any of these?


You will love the ETX-35p stand alone or stacked up on subs..i personally own them and prefer the sound of the eve's over the jbl...But either way you can't go wrong with the EV ETX-35p or the JBL SRX835p...


Have you heard them both side by side? Also, do you know what size voice coils the ETX-35p uses? Thank you


Yes i heard them side by side and to my ears the ev sounds better even with the smaller voice coil..ev engineers did wonders on the design of the etx 35-p and they went with the smaller voice call for a reason (acording to ev)...They throw very far coupled together trust me ive use them in big gigs with 4 yorkies...

JBL and EV both have thier distinctive sounds and i rather EV sound over jbl...side by side the ev sounds way better to my ears...
Rebelguy 3:10 PM - 4 June, 2015
From my understanding The ETX boxes have a somewhat smiley face eq sound (pumped up bass and highs) while the JBLs are a bit more neutral with a slight bump in the lows and vocal range.
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You are exactly correct...
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Yes i heard them side by side and to my ears the ev sounds better even with the smaller voice coil..ev engineers did wonders on the design of the etx 35-p and they went with the smaller voice call for a reason (acording to ev)...They throw very far coupled together trust me ive use them in big gigs with 4 yorkies...

JBL and EV both have thier distinctive sounds and i rather EV sound over jbl...side by side the ev sounds way better to my ears...

You keep saying you like the ETX35P's over the SRX835's. I'd love to be able to hear the comparison myself and really see where the ETX's shine. I just don't feel comfy knowing my highs are being push through a tiny 1.25" driver. Seems like the load is being "displaced" to the mid driver. I'd like to know EV's explanation for going so small on the high's voice coil... price?
Joee 3:29 PM - 4 June, 2015
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i'm with RIDDIMNBLUES, I've always preferred the sound of ev horns over jbl

ev to me just has a smother sound vs jbl i bit more bright
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Yes i heard them side by side and to my ears the ev sounds better even with the smaller voice coil..ev engineers did wonders on the design of the etx 35-p and they went with the smaller voice call for a reason (acording to ev)...They throw very far coupled together trust me ive use them in big gigs with 4 yorkies...

JBL and EV both have thier distinctive sounds and i rather EV sound over jbl...side by side the ev sounds way better to my ears...

You keep saying you like the ETX35P's over the SRX835's. I'd love to be able to hear the comparison myself and really see where the ETX's shine. I just don't feel comfy knowing my highs are being push through a tiny 1.25" driver. Seems like the load is being "displaced" to the mid driver. I'd like to know EV's explanation for going so small on the high's voice coil... price?


Maybe it is bieng displaced to mids idk...the reason for the 1.25" driver i was told was an engineering decision thats all i was told...EV been in the business a very long time they know what they are doing

Go to Guitar Center and hear both yourself...
Rebelguy 3:57 PM - 4 June, 2015
Easier said than done. None of th GCs in my area carry ether line.
Rebelguy 4:01 PM - 4 June, 2015
JBL has been in the game a long time as well. Not to knock EV but I don't read many major tour reports featuring their speakers. Nowadays it seems like th main players are Meyer, JBL, D&B, Nexo and L'acoustics.

Realistically for what we do either box would be fine.
DJFree 4:02 PM - 4 June, 2015
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JBL has been in the game a long time as well. Not to knock EV but I don't read many major tour reports featuring their speakers. Nowadays it seems like th main players are Meyer, JBL, D&B, Nexo and L'acoustics.

Realistically for what we do either box would be fine.

Bingo.
SG SOUNDS 6:51 PM - 4 June, 2015
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JBL has been in the game a long time as well. Not to knock EV but I don't read many major tour reports featuring their speakers. Nowadays it seems like th main players are Meyer, JBL, D&B, Nexo and L'acoustics.

Realistically for what we do either box would be fine.


Yep either box would be fine i just personally prefer the EV sound...
Joee 6:54 PM - 4 June, 2015
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back when i was running passive systems my tops were always ev & my subs were jbl

i always wanted to build a eaw system but than i went active
Taipanic 6:54 PM - 4 June, 2015
I think the JBL sound is geared more live music, where a flat sound is preferred by sound engineers, who can tailor the sound as needed, with FX, EQ. The EVs (IMO) are designed for a broader range of sound. I think EV knows a lot of their customers play prerecorded music and tailor the sound to make it sound better. I see more DJs with full EV rigs than bands, likewise more JBL rigs with bands.
DJFree 7:02 PM - 4 June, 2015
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Must be an area thing. Here in NC I see JBL used plenty by DJ's....in order I see QSC/JBL/Alto/Behringer....never seen anyone here with an EV system. If you come through with a nice EV system you'll be one of a kind here. The nicest club in Raleigh has VRX subs.
DJ GaFFle 7:24 PM - 4 June, 2015
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I think the JBL sound is geared more live music, where a flat sound is preferred by sound engineers, who can tailor the sound as needed, with FX, EQ. The EVs (IMO) are designed for a broader range of sound. I think EV knows a lot of their customers play prerecorded music and tailor the sound to make it sound better. I see more DJs with full EV rigs than bands, likewise more JBL rigs with bands.

^^^ This here.
Viking16 8:06 PM - 4 June, 2015
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Watchwww.youtube.com

The last paragragh in the video inscription states.........

"HiQnet Network Control
With full HiQnet Network Integration, configuring an SRX800 system is dramatically simplified, saving time while fully automating the control interface configuration. Simple wired control is provided via Ethercon connector and third party wireless router capability is included. Control options include Audio Architect, HiQnet Motion ControlTM iOS app, and standalone applications for iOS and Android."

So the answer is yes it can control srx 800. cost $9.99


Thanks. I guess I should have read evything more carefully.
Viking16 8:31 PM - 4 June, 2015
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"HiQnet Network Control
With full HiQnet Network Integration, configuring an SRX800 system is dramatically simplified, saving time while fully automating the control interface configuration. Simple wired control is provided via Ethercon connector and third party wireless router capability is included. Control options include Audio Architect, HiQnet Motion ControlTM iOS app, and standalone applications for iOS and Android."

So the answer is yes it can control srx 800. cost $9.99

My view: I ain't got time for all that...

For most gigs as a mobile DJ, I'm always fighting to achieve: lighter weight, less complexity, the best sound, and less stuff to carry/setup/breakdown, all while delivering the best presented product to my client(s). I pretty much want to plug in and go, that's part of the purpose of having "powered" speakers. I'm not doing tour-group or live-band sound with my setup so I don't want all those extraneous feature sets and added complexity. I don't want to bring a wireless router/network switch, several runs of CAT5/6 patch cabling, an extra laptop, plus extra software just to adjust control EQ or add a little delay, that I really may not even need, all for cool-factor points.

I get it, we all love new gear and gadgets but at this point, I'm not convinced this direction towards networked speaker control is really worth all the trouble for mobiles. What's y'alls goal for all these added speaker features and stuff? Where am I missing the possibilities?


I fully agree. Get in, get the job done, get out. Saving time wherever possible and carrying less gear to get the job done is the name of the game. Some of the features of the srx 800 line are probably over kill for some. It depends on application I guess and whether an upgrade is necessary. If it ain't broke..........Personally for me, I'm in a transition from passive systems to the the higher end MI powered boxes for mostly djing but also smaller live gigs as well (scalable of course depending on venue size and budget of customer). Not carrying around an amp rack, processors, and eq is appealing, but running more cables (cat 5) and laptop/tablet isn't.
Viking16 8:56 PM - 4 June, 2015
I found the following from soundforums.net when looking into srx connect. Sorry if it is lengthy but the comments are in line with what has been said here regarding the srx vs. etx. I found the part about the horns to be interesting.


I had my listening time on Friday, this time comparing the SRX815P to the EV ETX series. I brought a wireless router along and played with both the SRX Connect app as well as Audio Architect.

SRX Connect is an interesting app. The intent is to present a simplified setup for an all SRX800 series system, so some things are left out. The setup screen has a number of boxes that indicate speaker function - L&R mains, subs, L&R fills, rear fills, and monitors. Dragging the discovered speakers in one of these boxes affects the options you get. For example, putting a speaker in the L&R main box sets the box preset to "Main", and your only other choice is the "Speech" preset. Putting the box into the monitor section automatically recalls the "Monitor" preset. All locations have lots of EQ bands available, only some have delay and compression.

If you do have an all-SRX system, this app will help you get started faster, as the crossover settings are automatically set depending on which mains and subs you choose and because of the preset selection I mentioned earlier. There are a couple oddities, though. I was not able to discover the speaker until I turned cellular data off on my IPad. The other confusing thing is that where you tap affects what options you get, and it's not always intuitive how that works. You can tap a single speaker and you will get the input mixer. If you tap the Left Mains box, you will get some EQ bands and I think the oscillator. If you tap between the left and right mains boxes, you will get a different set of EQ bands, and if you tap farther out on the whole mains system box (which includes the subs), you get yet a different set of EQ bands. I get the idea - you would potentially want box tunings in one place then overall room EQ at a higher level, but this takes some getting used to.

I didn't have a chance to play with saving or loading setups, so I don't know if they're stored only on the IPad, if they get pushed to the boxes as a recallable preset, etc.

Audio Architect works as expected. You get a zillion EQ bands, the compression, delay, and preset management just like any other device managed by Audio Architect. You need AA 1.6 for SRX800 support, and AA 1.61 includes a firmware update for the SRX800 series. I'm glad for this, as perhaps they have addressed the limiter issues that Dan noticed on the SRX sub in the other thread.


Comparing the SRX series and the ETX series was interesting. There seems to be a philosophy difference between the boxes that was apparent in a few places. Both sounded good.

The SRX series seems to be more rugged, especially the paint. The SRX series has the same finish that Vertec uses and is pretty tough. The EV finish was spongier, and the demo boxes already had some wear on them. The SRX boxes have a third handle on top - the EV boxes don't. The ETX subwoofer socket is really robust - you drop the pole down 4" or so, and then it screws in, rather than only using the threads as the attachment point.

The ETX box has no networking features, so everything the box can do is accessible from the rear panel. For a quick show where you don't want to break out a computer, the ETX may have an advantage, as you can access the 3-band EQ right on the back of the box (1 band EQ on the sub). The downside is that you have to adjust this blind - you're behind the speakers while you're making the adjustments. The ETX series also has analog pots for the two inputs, which seems a bit incongruous - the rest of the system is DSP-driven, but they've broken out the initial gain stage in the analog domain. Contrasting that, the SRX box has no on-box adjustments other than level and preset recall, however the networking gives you a lot more control if you bother to get it out. As the input mixing is digital, you could potentially mix a simple event - one mic and a music source, via the IPad app and not need to bring a mixer.

Both boxes sounded good. The EV sounds more scooped - less mids and more HF sparkle. The JBL has more upper-midrange left in the default sound. My dealer called the ETX box a "safer" sound, while the JBL box left more of the mids there. I suspect that the ETX box would sound better for playback with its default tuning, but the JBL may have the edge for live work. Obviously both of these can be tuned to taste, and both boxes sound much better than the favorite boxes of a few years ago.

The ETX series makes a big deal of their very large horn. The SRX horn is much smaller. We were unable to really tell any advantage of the ETX horn in our listening environment.

It was clear that both boxes are good, and different folks will be attracted to the boxes for different reasons. My choice is the SRX series, largely because I'm already a JBL house, and because I liked the SRX form factor and construction slightly better.

Edit- adding more info it seems the SRX HF transducer has a 3" voice coil and 1.5" exit. The ETX has a 1.25" voice coil and 1" exit. The SRX815p crosses over at 2k, the ETX-15p at 1.5k. The horn part is much larger on the ETX and is described as a 'Signal Synchronized Transducer Waveguide'. I would naively think if the HF transducer were larger the crossover would be lower, but that isn't the case.

To cross over lower, the HORN needs to have more cubic volume. Longer or bigger mouth area or some combination of both depending on desired pattern and the amount of acoustic loading the air in the horn needs to present to the HF diaphragm. It's about the balance of air pressure on each side of the diaphragm and that's about how the driver and horn match up. The larger diaphragm driver will typically have greater output due to its larger surface area but doesn't inherently allow a lower crossover point.

I was referring to the size of the horn itself, not the compression driver. If you look at the pictures of the products with the grills removed, the ETX horn is about 35% of the size of the whole front of the box, where as the JBL horn is MUCH smaller - maybe only 10% of the size of the front of the box.

I haven't tried running the boxes into limiting to test capacity, but I suspect that the JBL has a little more gas than the ETX, though I would think that if you're in a situation where the extra 1-2dB mattered, you need more rig for the gig.
Don480 1:50 AM - 5 June, 2015
Thank you guys for all your input! I really appreciate it. To be honest, I'm leaning more towards the JBL after reading your comments. I like a more neutral sound and sounds like the JBL sounds like it would be good for live sound as well. My only gripe with JBL; is there customer service is poor. I have called their corporate office and left two messages regarding an issue and they never returned my call. Also, had an issue with a sub I purchased from JBL and they took for ever to return my call and they took almost two months to replace. Long story but I think you get the picture. But hopefully I will never have issues with the JBL because I don't ever want to deal with them directly again.
pdidy 3:27 AM - 5 June, 2015
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Well that's because you're doing it wrong sir......

Theres absolutely no reason to leave messages and wait for return calls. Here's the trick, Call the right department during normal business hours and you will always reach a live human tech who can answer all your questions. You should be calling tech support directly , not some random number at corporate office......www.jblproservice.com
SG SOUNDS 4:21 AM - 5 June, 2015
Listen to them both before you decide..
Don480 10:18 PM - 5 June, 2015
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There is no where to audition either of them here in Arizona :(
DJFree 8:18 PM - 9 June, 2015
Nice unbiased comments in this Facebook thread. SRX 812p vs ETX 12p (he also had the KV2's on hand). These are just some highlights that I quoted.
www.facebook.com

"From initial listing the EVs sound very similar to the KV2s at low levels. Things quickly change though when you start pumping the volumes. The EVs have a lot of DSP magic happening behind the scenes. The JBLs are pretty flat with a bump in the vocal range"

"These are the first EV boxes I have run into in a few years. There are not many companies in my area that use them and not many stores carry any of their lines. I think they are solid but the high end gets a little grating at higher volumes. I tested on both Music and Live mode. Live was a bit more more natural to me. From a design perspective the the JBL wins hand down for ergonomics and durability"

"JBL's are the most consistent at low and high volume. It just comes down to what you are looking for...the smiley face EQ sound or flat EQ sound."
Rebelguy 8:49 PM - 9 June, 2015
That was my post. I'm still undecided as to what direction to go. I'm going to mess with them a little more tonight.
DJFree 8:53 PM - 9 June, 2015
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Oh that's you on Facebook? First comments I've seen about the speakers that seem unbiased....good stuff.
pdidy 8:54 PM - 9 June, 2015
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Oh that's you on Facebook? First comments I've seen about the speakers that seem unbiased....good stuff.

THAT FB LINK DONT WORK.
DJFree 8:57 PM - 9 June, 2015
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Oh that's you on Facebook? First comments I've seen about the speakers that seem unbiased....good stuff.

THAT FB LINK DONT WORK.

Did you login? If you did I guess it's restricted to the group. It's DJ Idea Sharing.
pdidy 9:04 PM - 9 June, 2015
oh my bad "it's restricted to the group" you have to join to read.
tombo007 3:25 PM - 14 June, 2015
Should I buy more SRX712m or get a pair of SRX812P...

I have 4 - 712 now, looking for more monitors
SRX812P FOH?
KayPlaya 11:40 AM - 15 June, 2015
Tell you what, no one in my area offers Yorkville's products, but judging from how people talk about them in forums makes me think I should've purchased a pair of those blindly instead of a pair of prx718s!
hamtor 9:07 AM - 20 June, 2015
What happend to the fanboy who sold his stx 828 for the srx 828?
He must have received them by now?

Is there a proper review of the srx828?

Thanks
pdidy 6:34 PM - 20 June, 2015
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What happend to the fanboy who sold his stx 828 for the srx 828?
He must have received them by now?

Is there a proper review of the srx828?

Thanks

he never came back but I just emailed him with a link to this thread. I'm curious also....
Don480 7:30 PM - 20 June, 2015
Hey guys thought I'd report back. Just received my JBL SRX835p yesterday. I have to say JBL did a very poor job with packing the box. The speakers where inside wobbling around loose. I opened it up and the speakers didn't even have any covers over them. No manual. It almost seemed half assed by JBL. I set up the speakers in my home to test them out. BTW, even the sticker on the back that has the model number and I assume the serial number was peeling off too. I know that isn't a deal breaker but just makes you wonder. Anyways powered them up and played some mp3 music through it and did even a little bit of karaoke for about half an hour. Sound was awesome overall. When compared to my Bose L1, the Bose had a more HiFi sound and more boomy bass. I got to give to the Bose for clarity too. But the JBL sounded much better for live vocals but does add a little more sibilance in live female vocals. I didn't really care for the Bose for live vocals. Sounded a bit thin. The JBL and Bose sounded better IMO, as far as music, then my previous QSC K12s. But wait for it...

I powered down my JBLs for the rest of the day. Come night, decided to do a little Karaoke with my fiancé. Everything was good for about 20-30 minutes. In between selecting a song, we hear a loud succession of popping noise. Almost like a drive by gun shooting! Holy smokes! One of the speakers amps blew! I powered down that speaker and turned it back on and nothing but loud static sound now come through it. This is so sad. This is the third JBL speaker product that has gone bad now. I am starting to see a trend. I love their sound but not there product reliability and don't get me started on there horrible customer service. I called a guy at corporate twice and left a voice message and its been over a month and he has NOT ever returned my calls. QSC and Bose has far better customer service. I don't know what to do hear. I can exchange or return for a full refund but then I'm back to square one. Just want a nice sounding three way with good sound.
Rebelguy 8:13 PM - 20 June, 2015
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Hey guys thought I'd report back. Just received my JBL SRX835p yesterday. I have to say JBL did a very poor job with packing the box. The speakers where inside wobbling around loose. I opened it up and the speakers didn't even have any covers over them. No manual. It almost seemed half assed by JBL. I set up the speakers in my home to test them out. BTW, even the sticker on the back that has the model number and I assume the serial number was peeling off too. I know that isn't a deal breaker but just makes you wonder. Anyways powered them up and played some mp3 music through it and did even a little bit of karaoke for about half an hour. Sound was awesome overall. When compared to my Bose L1, the Bose had a more HiFi sound and more boomy bass. I got to give to the Bose for clarity too. But the JBL sounded much better for live vocals but does add a little more sibilance in live female vocals. I didn't really care for the Bose for live vocals. Sounded a bit thin. The JBL and Bose sounded better IMO, as far as music, then my previous QSC K12s. But wait for it...

I powered down my JBLs for the rest of the day. Come night, decided to do a little Karaoke with my fiancé. Everything was good for about 20-30 minutes. In between selecting a song, we hear a loud succession of popping noise. Almost like a drive by gun shooting! Holy smokes! One of the speakers amps blew! I powered down that speaker and turned it back on and nothing but loud static sound now come through it. This is so sad. This is the third JBL speaker product that has gone bad now. I am starting to see a trend. I love their sound but not there product reliability and don't get me started on there horrible customer service. I called a guy at corporate twice and left a voice message and its been over a month and he has NOT ever returned my calls. QSC and Bose has far better customer service. I don't know what to do hear. I can exchange or return for a full refund but then I'm back to square one. Just want a nice sounding three way with good sound.


In the beginning you stated that you just got the speakers but later you state you have been waiting a month to hear from JBL customer service.
Don480 8:58 PM - 20 June, 2015
In the beginning you stated that you just got the speakers but later you state you have been waiting a month to hear from JBL customer service.

If you read carefully I said "JBL product" not specific to the SRX835p
Don480 9:09 PM - 20 June, 2015
Let me reiterate my last statement so there is less confusion. I have purchased three different type of JBL speakers in the past. Without getting too specific in details and bore you guys. I a just sharing my past experience with JBL. Maybe some of you guys have had different experiences. But that is why we are on this forum? To share our experiences and provide opinions to hopefully help each other make better consumer decisions. :)
desmorider 1:14 AM - 21 June, 2015
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Hey guys thought I'd report back. Just received my JBL SRX835p yesterday. I have to say JBL did a very poor job with packing the box. The speakers where inside wobbling around loose. I opened it up and the speakers didn't even have any covers over them. No manual. It almost seemed half assed by JBL. I set up the speakers in my home to test them out. BTW, even the sticker on the back that has the model number and I assume the serial number was peeling off too. I know that isn't a deal breaker but just makes you wonder. Anyways powered them up and played some mp3 music through it and did even a little bit of karaoke for about half an hour. Sound was awesome overall. When compared to my Bose L1, the Bose had a more HiFi sound and more boomy bass. I got to give to the Bose for clarity too. But the JBL sounded much better for live vocals but does add a little more sibilance in live female vocals. I didn't really care for the Bose for live vocals. Sounded a bit thin. The JBL and Bose sounded better IMO, as far as music, then my previous QSC K12s. But wait for it...

I powered down my JBLs for the rest of the day. Come night, decided to do a little Karaoke with my fiancé. Everything was good for about 20-30 minutes. In between selecting a song, we hear a loud succession of popping noise. Almost like a drive by gun shooting! Holy smokes! One of the speakers amps blew! I powered down that speaker and turned it back on and nothing but loud static sound now come through it. This is so sad. This is the third JBL speaker product that has gone bad now. I am starting to see a trend. I love their sound but not there product reliability and don't get me started on there horrible customer service. I called a guy at corporate twice and left a voice message and its been over a month and he has NOT ever returned my calls. QSC and Bose has far better customer service. I don't know what to do hear. I can exchange or return for a full refund but then I'm back to square one. Just want a nice sounding three way with good sound.


I don't get it. Why hang on to a speaker with a blown amp? What good does that do you? You said you can exchange or get a refund. What are you waiting for?
Don480 6:45 AM - 21 June, 2015
Are you dumb? I just got the speakers!!!! Of course I am going to return it. BTW peeps the second one literally just went bad as of now. Same thing. Popping noise. This has never happened before. Unbelievable. BTW...I think I will just ignore the other retards in here.....

I don't get it. Why hang on to a speaker with a blown amp? What good does that do you? You said you can exchange or get a refund. What are you waiting for?
Don480 6:47 AM - 21 June, 2015
Hey...how many places do you know that replaces speakers over the weekend???? Especially online businesses?

I don't get it. Why hang on to a speaker with a blown amp? What good does that do you? You said you can exchange or get a refund. What are you waiting for?
Rebelguy 7:46 AM - 21 June, 2015
Your initial statement was hard to understand and that's why we were asking questions.
DJ GaFFle 11:30 AM - 21 June, 2015
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Hey...how many places do you know that replaces speakers over the weekend???? Especially online businesses?

I don't get it. Why hang on to a speaker with a blown amp? What good does that do you? You said you can exchange or get a refund. What are you waiting for?


Tough luck on that speaker but I've been there. I've rarely heard horror stories from the new SRX800 line but yours seems concerning.

Since you don't use the traditional [Quote] button, try putting ""'s around your quotes to make your statements easier to read...

desmorider 12:14 PM - 21 June, 2015
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Are you dumb? I just got the speakers!!!! Of course I am going to return it. BTW peeps the second one literally just went bad as of now. Same thing. Popping noise. This has never happened before. Unbelievable. BTW...I think I will just ignore the other retards in here.....

I don't get it. Why hang on to a speaker with a blown amp? What good does that do you? You said you can exchange or get a refund. What are you waiting for?



Are you dumb bitch? I love people that talk tough shit on the internet You meed to explain yourself better. Your talking about jbl not returning phone calls and not taking care of you, making it sound like you had the speakers for a minute. Also how did we know that you didn't get them from a dealer close to you that you could take them to and exchange.

You have the nerve to call us retards, when your sitting there with two fucked up new speakers. Learn how to use your shit bro. Sorry that your new speakers are fucked, but you don't have to take it out on us. Maybe if you were better at expressing yourself we would all understand you.
DJFree 1:21 PM - 21 June, 2015
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
KayPlaya 7:39 PM - 21 June, 2015
LMAO! I mean I understood what he was saying myself, but damn this is getting funny
Don480 7:48 PM - 21 June, 2015
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Are you dumb? I just got the speakers!!!! Of course I am going to return it. BTW peeps the second one literally just went bad as of now. Same thing. Popping noise. This has never happened before. Unbelievable. BTW...I think I will just ignore the other retards in here.....

I don't get it. Why hang on to a speaker with a blown amp? What good does that do you? You said you can exchange or get a refund. What are you waiting for?



Are you dumb bitch? I love people that talk tough shit on the internet You meed to explain yourself better. Your talking about jbl not returning phone calls and not taking care of you, making it sound like you had the speakers for a minute. Also how did we know that you didn't get them from a dealer close to you that you could take them to and exchange.

You have the nerve to call us retards, when your sitting there with two fucked up new speakers. Learn how to use your shit bro. Sorry that your new speakers are fucked, but you don't have to take it out on us. Maybe if you were better at expressing yourself we would all understand you.


Was not calling all of you retards...just the ones asking dumb questions. Wow love how this is getting personal! hahaha I did not want to sit here and submit a novel. Just giving you a summary. Like I said I don't want to bore you with the details. Just sharing my experience. I apologize if I offended anyone here. Just can't stand dumb questions.
Don480 7:52 PM - 21 June, 2015
I think we are getting definitely getting off the topic. This is not conversation about me or you. We are simply discussing our own personal experience with the new line of JBL SRX. At this point, not sure what I plan on doing. I will call first thing in the morning where I purchased it and take it from there. I really like the sound of these speakers....
desmorider 8:02 PM - 21 June, 2015
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I think we are getting definitely getting off the topic. This is not conversation about me or you. We are simply discussing our own personal experience with the new line of JBL SRX. At this point, not sure what I plan on doing. I will call first thing in the morning where I purchased it and take it from there. I really like the sound of these speakers....



Good luck with your outcome. Im sure that your problem will be handled. Just for future reference, when you ask "are you dumb?". You make it personal...
Johnnynights 9:55 PM - 21 June, 2015
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Hey guys thought I'd report back. Just received my JBL SRX835p yesterday. I have to say JBL did a very poor job with packing the box. The speakers where inside wobbling around loose. I opened it up and the speakers didn't even have any covers over them. No manual. It almost seemed half assed by JBL. I set up the speakers in my home to test them out. BTW, even the sticker on the back that has the model number and I assume the serial number was peeling off too. I know that isn't a deal breaker but just makes you wonder. Anyways powered them up and played some mp3 music through it and did even a little bit of karaoke for about half an hour. Sound was awesome overall. When compared to my Bose L1, the Bose had a more HiFi sound and more boomy bass. I got to give to the Bose for clarity too. But the JBL sounded much better for live vocals but does add a little more sibilance in live female vocals. I didn't really care for the Bose for live vocals. Sounded a bit thin. The JBL and Bose sounded better IMO, as far as music, then my previous QSC K12s. But wait for it...

I powered down my JBLs for the rest of the day. Come night, decided to do a little Karaoke with my fiancé. Everything was good for about 20-30 minutes. In between selecting a song, we hear a loud succession of popping noise. Almost like a drive by gun shooting! Holy smokes! One of the speakers amps blew! I powered down that speaker and turned it back on and nothing but loud static sound now come through it. This is so sad. This is the third JBL speaker product that has gone bad now. I am starting to see a trend. I love their sound but not there product reliability and don't get me started on there horrible customer service. I called a guy at corporate twice and left a voice message and its been over a month and he has NOT ever returned my calls. QSC and Bose has far better customer service. I don't know what to do hear. I can exchange or return for a full refund but then I'm back to square one. Just want a nice sounding three way with good sound.


I havent had no problems with my srx815p and i been using them a lot lately on there own(pair) for outdoor gigs and let me tell you they have never shut down or anything on me and im really bumping them to there limits....

If i find any problem or they shut down,amp fail etc i will give my review and hope it can help anyone interested in them before they make the move =)
eric5323 3:51 AM - 22 June, 2015
Hey all, I just wanted to chime in on my experience with the SRX835P thus far.

A little background on me: I don't DJ professionally, just for sh*ts. Mostly house/block parties. I had a 2x2 k12/kw181 setup and was itching to see what this new gear was all about. I was considering EV gear, but the deal I got on these locally kind of sealed my fate.

I have about 25 hours in them so far and am very pleased. The audio architect software installed easily on the laptop I use to DJ and it is great to be able to control all the speaker's functions/DSP settings from a computer rather than fiddling with the back panel. There is a learning curve, but after that it's all gravy. I was concerned that it was going to be a dumbed down "prosumer" version of the program, but it's really full featured. The main downside to utilizing this is that you've got another set of cables and an ethernet switch to deal with. I was under the impression that the speakers had wireless LAN capability, but that is not the case. When JBL said you can control them wirelessly, they meant your IPad/Laptop can be wireless on the same network, through a router...sigh.

I haven't pushed them to even a soft limit, came close on the scale last night, but by that point I was way too loud anyway. A lady came over from the next block and said the music was giving her "dementia." Yes, dementia. :) They will throw some pure sound with authority, but don't get harsh/tinny when pushed like my QSC setup did. 137db...doubt it, but hey I'm no pro. Also, the 60x40 dispersion should be more like 60x30. They sound their absolute best with the mid-driver at head level. They sounded good on the ground as well, but I needed to be back at least 25ft or so for the sound image to become clearest. The top horn has the narrowest field.

The sound is very balanced, I didn't even feel like EQ-ing off flat for most material. There was a lot more bass than I was expecting in full-range "main" mode. The kick drum had a thrown pop to it I've never experienced with just cabs and it was just so damn clean sounding, like the woofers weren't doing anything extra than what was needed to thump. I think the info sheet says something like 41hz, but they seem to reach lower (upper 30s) and are more than enough on their own for most everything. Obviously for electronic genres and bassheads they lack the deep grunt, but I have an SRX828SP in transit that should be here by the end of the week. Listening to the 835s now makes me think that even a double 18 sub might get overpowered by two of these at some point.

I too noticed my serial number stickers peeling off. Oh well, I'll figure something out. I hope the fizzy-pop amp problem doesn't rear its ugly head over here. The amps do make the slightest bit of clickety-like switching sound if you put your head down there though. I'm not sure what is is, but it's probably by design.

Even at low volume the sound is outstanding. There's no hiss/crackle when playing quietly. That drove me nuts on the k12s.

I've got them stacked up in the garage waiting patiently for the sub.

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DJ GaFFle 10:53 AM - 22 June, 2015
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Hey all, I just wanted to chime in on my experience with the SRX835P thus far.

I have about 25 hours in them so far and am very pleased...

I haven't pushed them to even a soft limit, came close on the scale last night, but by that point I was way too loud anyway. A lady came over from the next block and said the music was giving her "dementia." Yes, dementia. :) They will throw some pure sound with authority, but don't get harsh/tinny when pushed like my QSC setup did. 137db...doubt it, but hey I'm no pro. Also, the 60x40 dispersion should be more like 60x30. They sound their absolute best with the mid-driver at head level. They sounded good on the ground as well, but I needed to be back at least 25ft or so for the sound image to become clearest. The top horn has the narrowest field.

The sound is very balanced, I didn't even feel like EQ-ing off flat for most material. There was a lot more bass than I was expecting in full-range "main" mode. The kick drum had a thrown pop to it I've never experienced with just cabs and it was just so damn clean sounding, like the woofers weren't doing anything extra than what was needed to thump. I think the info sheet says something like 41hz, but they seem to reach lower (upper 30s) and are more than enough on their own for most everything. Obviously for electronic genres and bassheads they lack the deep grunt, but I have an SRX828SP in transit that should be here by the end of the week. Listening to the 835s now makes me think that even a double 18 sub might get overpowered by two of these at some point.

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Even at low volume the sound is outstanding. There's no hiss/crackle when playing quietly. That drove me nuts on the k12s.
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Good review, I like the SRX835's a lot! Every time I visit my local GC, I'm usually running music through them to look for flaws but I don't hear or see any. These speakers give definition to peel-your-face-off loud, while they still sound great doing it. I wish I could take one home to demo because there's limits on what I'm able to do/play at a GC.
DJFree 2:18 PM - 22 June, 2015
From ProSoundWeb:

"I was able to listen and compare the srx818 to the qsc kw181 last night but not the PRX.

While the kw181 sounds great, the srx818 was much deeper and fuller. I think overall volume was close but the jbl was much fuller.
I've never had a complaint about the kw181 for live music use but I am really wanting to get the new srx828sp. The srx835 and 815 were also incredible. Much smoother than everything else in that market at the moment."

This doesn't mean much to me because I feel that the prx 718xlf > kw 181. I just don't know why people aren't comparing the ETX 18sp to SRX818sp instead of the kw181. "Deep and full" is pretty accurate.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:48 PM - 22 June, 2015
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Was not calling all of you retards...just the ones asking dumb questions.


We have an early contender for "Quote Of The Year"...
DJ Val-BKNY11203 7:44 PM - 22 June, 2015
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From ProSoundWeb:

"I was able to listen and compare the srx818 to the qsc kw181 last night but not the PRX.

While the kw181 sounds great, the srx818 was much deeper and fuller. I think overall volume was close but the jbl was much fuller.
I've never had a complaint about the kw181 for live music use but I am really wanting to get the new srx828sp. The srx835 and 815 were also incredible. Much smoother than everything else in that market at the moment."

This doesn't mean much to me because I feel that the prx 718xlf > kw 181. I just don't know why people aren't comparing the ETX 18sp to SRX818sp instead of the kw181. "Deep and full" is pretty accurate.


In all fairness the JBL is a brand new speaker with all the bells whistles compared to a speaker that is how many years old now? It should sound somewhat better.
DJFree 8:02 PM - 22 June, 2015
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In all fairness the JBL is a brand new speaker with all the bells whistles compared to a speaker that is how many years old now? It should sound somewhat better.

That's my point. I don't get why people are still comparing it to the 181.
DJ GaFFle 8:10 PM - 22 June, 2015
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In all fairness the JBL is a brand new speaker with all the bells whistles compared to a speaker that is how many years old now? It should sound somewhat better.

That's my point. I don't get why people are still comparing it to the 181.

Because it was defacto for a nice sub.
pdidy 8:53 PM - 22 June, 2015
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In all fairness the JBL is a brand new speaker with all the bells whistles compared to a speaker that is how many years old now? It should sound somewhat better.

That's my point. I don't get why people are still comparing it to the 181.

Because it was defacto for a nice sub.

yes I agree it has earned the title as the standard by which all other dj level subs are measured. But it still holds the title in reliability !
Don480 6:18 PM - 23 June, 2015
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I think we are getting definitely getting off the topic. This is not conversation about me or you. We are simply discussing our own personal experience with the new line of JBL SRX. At this point, not sure what I plan on doing. I will call first thing in the morning where I purchased it and take it from there. I really like the sound of these speakers....



Good luck with your outcome. Im sure that your problem will be handled. Just for future reference, when you ask "are you dumb?". You make it personal...


Again, my sincere apology. I had one too many drinks that night and was upset that my speakers stopped working. My bad. Anyways, yeah I will be exchanging for another pair. I hope the new ones don't have the same issues...especially after the return date period. I really do like the sound of these. They sound awesome for live sound. Female voice do have some sibilance. But could be my mic adding to the sibilance. Don't know. My fiancé was using a Shure sm58 mic. Even worse with the Sennheiser E935. Toned back the treble on my mic eq on the mixer and helped a little. But the mid vocal is where it shines. When using the FX on my Allen & Heath mixer; the decay and reverbs sound so natural when compared to my previous QSC K12s. I think the midrange really helps with the overall tonality. I'm really happy with the sound. Just not happy with how they both stopped working in less than 24 hours.
Don480 6:18 PM - 23 June, 2015
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Was not calling all of you retards...just the ones asking dumb questions.


We have an early contender for "Quote Of The Year"...


I'm a dork! LOL I'll admit it. I can be a prick sometimes....my bad
Don480 6:22 PM - 23 June, 2015
I agree with you. The SRX's have a very well balanced sound. BTW did you SRX's arrive with no protective covers on them? Did your arrive with a manual? Mine came bare bones. Just the speakers, power cable, warranty card, and one sheet of paper (can't remember what was on that but definitely did not have any instructions on it).
DJFree 6:25 PM - 23 June, 2015
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I agree with you. The SRX's have a very well balanced sound. BTW did you SRX's arrive with no protective covers on them? Did your arrive with a manual? Mine came bare bones. Just the speakers, power cable, warranty card, and one sheet of paper (can't remember what was on that but definitely did not have any instructions on it).

Where did you order from? My Srx818sp arrived with the same information but it was packaged very good. The manual wasn't even on the site yet when I received mine.
Don480 6:30 PM - 23 June, 2015
One thing I forgot to mention. I felt the sweet spot was a bit narrow especially when you are using only one, at close range. Definitely need at least two. I understand these have only 60 degree width dispersion but it seems they do have a significant drop off when you step outside of the dispersion. At least that is what I experienced. It was in a medium size room.
Don480 6:31 PM - 23 June, 2015
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I agree with you. The SRX's have a very well balanced sound. BTW did you SRX's arrive with no protective covers on them? Did your arrive with a manual? Mine came bare bones. Just the speakers, power cable, warranty card, and one sheet of paper (can't remember what was on that but definitely did not have any instructions on it).

Where did you order from? My Srx818sp arrived with the same information but it was packaged very good. The manual wasn't even on the site yet when I received mine.



I ordered mine through American Musical Supply
DJFree 6:35 PM - 23 June, 2015
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I agree with you. The SRX's have a very well balanced sound. BTW did you SRX's arrive with no protective covers on them? Did your arrive with a manual? Mine came bare bones. Just the speakers, power cable, warranty card, and one sheet of paper (can't remember what was on that but definitely did not have any instructions on it).

Where did you order from? My Srx818sp arrived with the same information but it was packaged very good. The manual wasn't even on the site yet when I received mine.



I ordered mine through American Musical Supply

Ok same. Don't forget you got that free extended 12 month warranty too...although I doubt you'll need it the second time around.
Don480 6:36 PM - 23 June, 2015
To be honest, the packaging was horrible. I wonder if these were open box. I asked American Musical Supply if they opened the boxes to inspect. They replied with a "no." But I still don't think that had to do with my equipment failing...
Don480 6:37 PM - 23 June, 2015
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I agree with you. The SRX's have a very well balanced sound. BTW did you SRX's arrive with no protective covers on them? Did your arrive with a manual? Mine came bare bones. Just the speakers, power cable, warranty card, and one sheet of paper (can't remember what was on that but definitely did not have any instructions on it).

Where did you order from? My Srx818sp arrived with the same information but it was packaged very good. The manual wasn't even on the site yet when I received mine.



I ordered mine through American Musical Supply

Ok same. Don't forget you got that free extended 12 month warranty too...although I doubt you'll need it the second time around.


Let me know how yours work out. Hopefully you won't have the same issues I had.
DJFree 6:42 PM - 23 June, 2015
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Let me know how yours work out. Hopefully you won't have the same issues I had.

Yea my sub is working great. Just ordered a second one.
Rebelguy 7:48 PM - 23 June, 2015
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To be honest, the packaging was horrible. I wonder if these were open box. I asked American Musical Supply if they opened the boxes to inspect. They replied with a "no." But I still don't think that had to do with my equipment failing...


The SRX812P I tested came factory sealed. It had no plastic bag covering the speaker. It did have a dense cardboard top and bottom piece which allowed for a 3 inch gap all around the unit. There was only a warranty sheet. No Manual. I actually preferred the JBL packaging vs the EV ETX line as they are just placed in the box with no gap. If anything punctures the box in transit then you are pretty much screwed.
eric5323 4:24 AM - 24 June, 2015
I agree they should have used a little more tape on the boxes. Mine had one strip on top and bottom. Had those blown out, it would have been disastrous.

On a side note, my SRX828SP sub is STILL on backorder. They're saying July 1st ship date now... I was told it would go out on Monday, June 22. Looks like they're more interested in getting demo units to stores than fulfilling customer orders, oh well.
Rebelguy 2:01 PM - 24 June, 2015
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On a side note, my SRX828SP sub is STILL on backorder. They're saying July 1st ship date now... I was told it would go out on Monday, June 22. Looks like they're more interested in getting demo units to stores than fulfilling customer orders, oh well.


Or the demand has really been that great.
MVPDJs 6:09 PM - 24 June, 2015
Definitely could use better packaging. My SRX 835s had some dents in the grill when I opened them. I only remember a one sheet page being with them too. Been rocking them out with stacked on subs and they've been great. Haven't really pushed them yet only at 50%. Did a 400 person wedding and the dance floor was so packed it ate up the sound a bit so we turned one of our fill speakers towards the dance floor which made it all good. They are great paired with subs.
pdidy 6:29 PM - 24 June, 2015
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Did a 400 person wedding and the dance floor was so packed it ate up the sound a bit so we turned one of our fill speakers towards the dance floor which made it all good.

I'm confused how is that even possible ? how can people on the dance floor block a SRX 835 top speaker unless you got it sitting on the floor where it should not be ?
MVPDJs 6:50 PM - 24 June, 2015
It was stacked on a PRX 518S. I'm a bit taller than the stack and I'm about 5'10. The dance floor was so packed that the people in the back further away from the speakers weren't getting the true sound of the 835 because there were so many people eating up the sound in front of them. The sound had a hard time traveling through that many people. At least that's what I felt.

Actually a weird thing to note. At my wedding this past weekend I went from my mixer into 2 PRX 518 subs then daisy chained them to the SRX 835 that was sitting on top of them and such a bad sound came out. Fuzzy shitty sounding music. Thought it was a power issue but eventually I went from the mixer straight to the SRX 835s and then daisy chained into the subs and it sounded great then. Didn't understand that really. My wild guess is the technology is much more advanced in the 835 than the 518s sub that the signal wasn't being sent correctly to it? Any thoughts?
pdidy 7:17 PM - 24 June, 2015
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My wild guess is the technology is much more advanced in the 835 than the 518s sub that the signal wasn't being sent correctly to it? Any thoughts?

Too many variables but my first guess would be bad XLR cable....

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It was stacked on a PRX 518S.

Well if you mean like this mrtcsw002.files.wordpress.com then that's where the problem is.

the top speaker should always be mounted ABOVE the heads of your clients.
pdidy 7:22 PM - 24 June, 2015
see page 33 of the user manual

jblpro.com

"Aim the speakers to cover the whole audience
For best results try to get the high frequency horn at least 2 to 4 feet above the heads of the audience. If the speakers are too low, the people in
the back of the audience will not receive the best quality sound. If the speakers are too high, people in the front of the audience will not receive
the best quality sound. Pay attention to the coverage pattern of each speaker and aim them so that the entire audience is within the coverage
pattern of the system. Utilize the downward angle pole cup on the SRX812P and SRX815P for closer audiences in smaller spaces."
MVPDJs 8:06 PM - 24 June, 2015
"Aim the speakers to cover the whole audience
For best results try to get the high frequency horn at least 2 to 4 feet above the heads of the audience. If the speakers are too low, the people in
the back of the audience will not receive the best quality sound."

For sure. I was thinking about this when I realized that the crowd was eating up some sound when it was stacked. Originally, I thought it'd be alright because they show the SRX 835 stacked onto that SRX sub but maybe that is taller than the PRX 518S? I guess I'll try a pole mount but what pole mount can even handle the 87 lbs of the 835? Not sure but either way good point.
pdidy 8:12 PM - 24 June, 2015
But people that buy the srx835 are not concerned about weight. :)
MVPDJs 8:14 PM - 24 June, 2015
Hahaha well there must be a pole mount that freaking holds its big ass if it has a cup for it. A few google trips left me with only mounts that hold 80 lbs.
DJFree 8:16 PM - 24 June, 2015
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I thought it'd be alright because they show the SRX 835 stacked onto that SRX sub but maybe that is taller than the PRX 518S? I guess I'll try a pole mount but what pole mount can even handle the 87 lbs of the 835? Not sure but either way good point.

No that sub is taller than the srx. I describe the srx sub as short and stocky.

www.gatorcases.com
Joee 8:21 PM - 24 June, 2015
you could certainly try this method Watchwww.youtube.com

@DJFree is that a air assist lifted stand? if so he could just put it on in the down position walk it up & let it left the speaker
DJFree 8:23 PM - 24 June, 2015
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@DJFree is that a air assist lifted stand? if so he could just put it on in the down position walk it up & let it left the speaker

Yep! Watchwww.youtube.com
Joee 8:26 PM - 24 June, 2015
it even has a leveling leg, nice
pdidy 8:33 PM - 24 June, 2015
These are popular and well made www.amazon.com
DJFree 8:36 PM - 24 June, 2015
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These are popular and well made www.amazon.com

I have those but I don't see anywhere that states it'll handle a speaker the size of a srx 835
Joee 8:39 PM - 24 June, 2015
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These are popular and well made www.amazon.com

I've had a pair of ts80b for about 20 years now www.ultimatesupport.com there still working fine

the one you posted it the only air assist one I've seen & used we actually have 4 or 5 in this pic s1285.photobucket.com they are great only thing is if you have a light speaker on it, it takes more effort to bring it down
DJ Guayo 8:39 PM - 24 June, 2015
I'm not too impressed with their support (Ultimate Stand). They have had everything they need for my RMA and they have been jerking me around the the call ticket. It's been about 5 weeks and I'm still waiting. #smh
Joee 8:41 PM - 24 June, 2015
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I'm not too impressed with their support (Ultimate Stand). They have had everything they need for my RMA and they have been jerking me around the the call ticket. It's been about 5 weeks and I'm still waiting. #smh

what problem are you having with it, as stated I've been using mine for 20 years, i abuse them too
DJFree 8:42 PM - 24 June, 2015
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These are popular and well made www.amazon.com

I have those but I don't see anywhere that states it'll handle a speaker the size of a srx 835

Nevermind I see 150lbs. I like mine. The assist is still working good enough after a few years but for those big ass srx 835's I'd still go the Gatorworks route.
MVPDJs 8:43 PM - 24 June, 2015
Ah yes I have those Pdidy. I use them for my PRX 515s. Ideally though I'd want to mount my 835s to my subs itself because sometimes I like to put them closer to the dance floor depending on the room.

Is this gator sub mount air assisted too?

www.gatorcases.com
DJ Guayo 8:45 PM - 24 June, 2015
The lift doesn't work well. I have two and I used to place my KW 152 (before I sold them) on it and one stand would lift with little ease and the other stand required too much assistance. I would pretty much have to lifer it myself.

They had me make a video and send in the serial number. I did that 4 weeks ago after my initial phone call. I have the ts 100
DJ Guayo 8:47 PM - 24 June, 2015
Is this gator sub mount air assisted too?

www.gatorcases.com

Now that's what I'm talking about. I could use these with my new RCF set.
Joee 8:47 PM - 24 June, 2015
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The lift doesn't work well. I have two and I used to place my KW 152 (before I sold them) on it and one stand would lift with little ease and the other stand required too much assistance. I would pretty much have to lifer it myself.

They had me make a video and send in the serial number. I did that 4 weeks ago after my initial phone call. I have the ts 100

ok, i have the regular one summer time block parties after carrying it i even let it hit the floor no issues what so ever …..besides be scratched like a mofo
Joee 8:48 PM - 24 June, 2015
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Now that's what I'm talking about. I could use these with my new RCF set.

show off :-P
DJFree 8:50 PM - 24 June, 2015
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The lift doesn't work well. I have two and I used to place my KW 152 (before I sold them) on it and one stand would lift with little ease and the other stand required too much assistance. I would pretty much have to lifer it myself.

They had me make a video and send in the serial number. I did that 4 weeks ago after my initial phone call. I have the ts 100

ok, i have the regular one summer time block parties after carrying it i even let it hit the floor no issues what so ever …..besides be scratched like a mofo

My air assist is slowing down now....but hell I've beat mine up too....the stand itself is still damn good though.
DJ Guayo 8:50 PM - 24 June, 2015
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The lift doesn't work well. I have two and I used to place my KW 152 (before I sold them) on it and one stand would lift with little ease and the other stand required too much assistance. I would pretty much have to lifer it myself.

They had me make a video and send in the serial number. I did that 4 weeks ago after my initial phone call. I have the ts 100

ok, i have the regular one summer time block parties after carrying it i even let it hit the floor no issues what so ever …..besides be scratched like a mofo


Lmao. Spray them black. Just make sure to cover the S/N. The other stand is still beast.

Do you guys know of anything for a downward tilt adapter?
Joee 8:52 PM - 24 June, 2015
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Do you guys know of anything for a downward tilt adapter?

www.fullcompass.com

www.fullcompass.com

www.sweetwater.com
pdidy 8:59 PM - 24 June, 2015
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Ah yes I have those Pdidy. I use them for my PRX 515s. Ideally though I'd want to mount my 835s to my subs itself because sometimes I like to put them closer to the dance floor depending on the room.

Is this gator sub mount air assisted too?

www.gatorcases.com

any pole you choose need m20 threads not the old standard.

Tripod stands are alway 1st priority because they are required for stand alone use without a sub. Poles can only be used with a sub.
pdidy 9:02 PM - 24 June, 2015
Disregard the m20 pole, you have older subs.
Don480 9:44 PM - 30 June, 2015
For those of you who have the 835p so far so good? BTW, I hate American Musical Supply. They screwed me over. Long story but horrible customer service and zero communication. I am purchasing my new replacement pair from Sweetwater. Much better service!
Don480 9:45 PM - 30 June, 2015
Anyone else have a bad experience with AMS?
Sants 10:03 PM - 30 June, 2015
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From ProSoundWeb:

"I was able to listen and compare the srx818 to the qsc kw181 last night but not the PRX.

While the kw181 sounds great, the srx818 was much deeper and fuller. I think overall volume was close but the jbl was much fuller.
I've never had a complaint about the kw181 for live music use but I am really wanting to get the new srx828sp. The srx835 and 815 were also incredible. Much smoother than everything else in that market at the moment."

This doesn't mean much to me because I feel that the prx 718xlf > kw 181. I just don't know why people aren't comparing the ETX 18sp to SRX818sp instead of the kw181. "Deep and full" is pretty accurate.


Im the one who posted on prosoundweb I was surprised to see my post quoted here. I've been following this thread for awhile since the srx800 series are fairly new and not much is out there. I ordered two srx835 and two srx 828's. I do live sound. Still waiting on one back ordered sub but so far very impressed.

DjFree- the reason I compared to the kw181 is because I own some. I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a lateral move. Second, the 181 is a good reference sub since many have heard it and third, while it is not the prx 718 it is in the same market. The kw181 is the one I have experience with and was offering my first hand opinion.
I am more than aware of the etx being the competition for the srx but that was not the question asked on the original thread.
DJFree 12:52 AM - 1 July, 2015
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DjFree- the reason I compared to the kw181 is because I own some. I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a lateral move. Second, the 181 is a good reference sub since many have heard it and third, while it is not the prx 718 it is in the same market. The kw181 is the one I have experience with and was offering my first hand opinion.
I am more than aware of the etx being the competition for the srx but that was not the question asked on the original thread.

Gotcha. Since you actually have the 828sp and heard the 818sp......does 2 818sp equal 1 828sp? Is the 828sp worth the weight/size?
Sants 1:32 AM - 1 July, 2015
I would say that two 818's would be very similar to one 828. I think it would take 3 kw181's to equal one srx828. When I compared them at home the srx was much more impressive.

It's a very clean sounding sub across the spectrum. The etx18 is also very impressive and I had same feeling when I heard the srx818 - damn these are awesome. Once I heard the srx800 stuff I knew it was a step above my qsc gear. I love qsc.

I did hear the srx815 and 812. I thought both were awesome and for a dj over subs may be the ticket. I bought the 835 for band use and man are they awesome.

Back to subs. I was originally planning on buying two more kw181's but then I heard the srx818 and was spoiled. I got two srx828's for about $400 more than two kw181's so the choice was easy. If cost were equal, I probably would have bought four srx818's but with good wheels the dual 18 isn't bad to move and actually a little easier to load In a trailer or low vehicle. Just lift one end in and lift the back end and push.
I can't wait to see what qsc comes out with next and I want compare the 828 to an ls801p.

Anyway, there is great info and knowledge here and I'm appreciative to be part of it.
eric5323 12:10 AM - 6 July, 2015
I got the 828SP in this last Thursday and was able to give it a good thrashing at two parties, one on the third and one on the fourth. Very impressive sound, clean and distortion free all the way up to the soft limiter. For what I do (house/block parties), one is plenty. Too much according to people over a block away... I actually like stacking the 835s on top, it just works and sounds great with minimal footprint. I was initially concerned with comb filtering but it seems to be a non-issue surprisingly. While I have put the 835s on tripod stands a couple times, it isn't fun. I use a padded hand truck to move everything around and tetris them in the pickup bed with DIY moving blanket covers and straps.

I have been using the audio architect software and tweaking the EQ everywhere I go depending on the environment. I'm happy with my decision to go JBL, now let's hope they last as long as my QSC gear did...

i.imgur.com
Sants 4:32 AM - 6 July, 2015
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I got the 828SP in this last Thursday and was able to give it a good thrashing at two parties, one on the third and one on the fourth. Very impressive sound, clean and distortion free all the way up to the soft limiter. For what I do (house/block parties), one is plenty. Too much according to people over a block away... I actually like stacking the 835s on top, it just works and sounds great with minimal footprint. I was initially concerned with comb filtering but it seems to be a non-issue surprisingly. While I have put the 835s on tripod stands a couple times, it isn't fun. I use a padded hand truck to move everything around and tetris them in the pickup bed with DIY moving blanket covers and straps.

I have been using the audio architect software and tweaking the EQ everywhere I go depending on the environment. I'm happy with my decision to go JBL, now let's hope they last as long as my QSC gear did...

i.imgur.com


Great! I'm having great results with mine as well. Still waiting on the second to get here. I've noticed these have umph that I could never get with kw181's. They always sound right but not the umph you can feel.

Are you saying you stood the 828 vertical and put the 835 on top? I did last week and it worked great and was very stable. Footprint size awesome and the rig looked tight vertical. I want to run some tests and see if there is more lunch with the sub flat vs vertical. I think there is slightly more with it flat.

I haven't ran my into the limiters yet. When the limiters hit does a light flash or is it only readable in the app or system architect?
Sants 4:33 AM - 6 July, 2015
Sorry for some errors. Stupid auto correct
eric5323 6:34 AM - 6 July, 2015
I lay the 828 flat and splay the 835s on top. I tried putting the sub vertical when it first arrived but it seemed to sound better laying down with cleaner bass at a distance.

I use the audio architect PC program and there is an output meter with three bars: one rms, one peak, and one for gain reduction.

When driven to what I called a "soft" limit, the clip light will illuminate intermittently with the peaks. The limit status light will turn yellow if gain reduction from 0 to -20db is taking place. I haven't noticed any audible clipping or perceptible output drop at this stage. I have only bounced into this territory momentarily, but the speakers would readily get louder if commanded.

If pushed past 20db of reduction, the limit indicator will supposedly turn red. I have not seen this yet or had it flagged in the event log. I'm sure someone will crank these up to 11 at some point, but I have no plans to.

Since I use the software I've honestly never looked at the lcd panel on the speaker to see if anything is displayed during limiting.
Sants 12:35 PM - 6 July, 2015
Good to know. The PC I have is only 32 bit and I get an error saying I need a 64 bit operating system so I can't use system architect. I'm trying to get it to work with my Mac but the bootleg windows doesn't work right. Is really like to see what's going on inside. I live my setup so far.
pdidy 11:07 PM - 6 July, 2015
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I lay the 828 flat and splay the 835s on top. I tried putting the sub vertical when it first arrived but it seemed to sound better laying down with cleaner bass at a distance.

I use the audio architect PC program and there is an output meter with three bars: one rms, one peak, and one for gain reduction.

When driven to what I called a "soft" limit, the clip light will illuminate intermittently with the peaks. The limit status light will turn yellow if gain reduction from 0 to -20db is taking place. I haven't noticed any audible clipping or perceptible output drop at this stage. I have only bounced into this territory momentarily, but the speakers would readily get louder if commanded.

If pushed past 20db of reduction, the limit indicator will supposedly turn red. I have not seen this yet or had it flagged in the event log. I'm sure someone will crank these up to 11 at some point, but I have no plans to.

Since I use the software I've honestly never looked at the lcd panel on the speaker to see if anything is displayed during limiting.

any chance of you posting a 1or 2 minute youtube vid displaying the setup/wiring with audio architect PC ?
eric5323 12:30 AM - 7 July, 2015
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any chance of you posting a 1or 2 minute youtube vid displaying the setup/wiring with audio architect PC ?


Sure, give me a few.
eric5323 1:42 AM - 7 July, 2015
The demo:

Watchwww.youtube.com


And the oops:

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:09 AM - 7 July, 2015
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The demo:

Watchwww.youtube.com

And the oops:

Watchwww.youtube.com


Salute!
DJ GaFFle 2:27 AM - 7 July, 2015
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The demo:

Watchwww.youtube.com


And the oops:

Watchwww.youtube.com

If you've got no switch/hub, you should be able to go straight from your laptop to one speaker via a X-over patch cable. I'm not sure if there would ever be a use for that.
pdidy 2:54 AM - 7 July, 2015
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The demo:

Watchwww.youtube.com

And the oops:

Watchwww.youtube.com


Salute!


WOW, That was quite good......far and beyond what I hoped for. Thank you. Ive actually learned a little something considering ive never needed to use Audio Architect before.

Being that you're quite good at this YouTube thing could do the same demoing the wireless ipad or tablet app ?
pdidy 3:00 AM - 7 July, 2015
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Being that you're quite good at this YouTube thing could do the same demoing the wireless ipad or tablet app ?

Oh wait, you dont have an IOS device right ? and there's no app for the android device you have ?
Joee 11:33 AM - 7 July, 2015
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And the oops:

Watchwww.youtube.com

DAMN!!!!


you might want to let your bass run a few songs, let all the nail come out & replace with drywall screws……lol
eric5323 12:19 AM - 8 July, 2015
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Being that you're quite good at this YouTube thing could do the same demoing the wireless ipad or tablet app ?

Oh wait, you dont have an IOS device right ? and there's no app for the android device you have ?


right. no android app yet. I don't own an iPhone/iPad but when I find a friend with o e willing to install the program I'll be sure to capture it.

one thing I noticed was that there isnt a password protect feature when connecting to the speakers. seems like a potential security hole in some setups.
Viking16 5:52 AM - 8 July, 2015
Hi all. I've been following the thread for some time. In my last post I was waiting on demoing the ev etx 15p vs. the srx 815p and then making a decision on which speaker to go with. Unfortunately, the demo between the two didn't happen. After reading the comments on this forum and other forums, I decided to pull the trigger on a pair of the srx 815p's. My first impression was they are big and have some weight to them. That top handle definitely comes in handy. I also bought the jbl covers for them and although pricy at $ 139.99 each, they fit like a glove and are well made. As for the sound...............they are awesome. Crisp, clear, vocals pronounced but not over powering or annoying, thick but not muddy at all and a lot of thud in full range mode. Depending on the song, they could use a tad of top end sparkle (like an ev box) but it isn't a necessity. They sound great right out of the box without doing anything to them. I hooked them up to audio architect and played around with them a bit but for now, I'm not touching their eqing. I was able to get 102 db in full range mode (preset 1/ main) at one meter very easily with no hint of distortion or annoyance listening to different genres of music. Although, potentially not very accurate, I used a phone app for my S3 to measure the volume to get a general idea of how loud it potientially was.

During a wedding I did this past weekend they performed flawlessly. I hooked them up to audio architect basically to keep an eye on input and output, nothing fancy. They were set to the 100 hertz cut (can't remember which preset that is without having the speaker infront of me) as I used them with a pair of single 18 passive subs. Each sub cabinet is 9 cubic feet loaded with a McCauley 6256 powered by a qsc plx 1602 bridged at 8 ohms which puts out roughly 1100 watts at .01% thd. The good old ev dx38 did the processing for the subs between 35 and 80 hertz. This small system kicked ass. It was very balanced. I was at 104 db at one meter most of the night (once again measuring with the phone app).

I'm hoping to buy the matching srx 818sp's to replace the passive subs mentioned above. I hope they will be as loud and musical as the passive subs I'm using now.
pdidy 6:49 AM - 8 July, 2015
@Viking16
You said your tops were set to 100hz and subs set to 80hz ?
pdidy 6:50 AM - 8 July, 2015
Was that a misprint or tuning error ?
Viking16 6:56 AM - 8 July, 2015
The tops started at 100 hertz (hi pass). The subs went from 35 to 80 hertz. So there is a small hole between 80 and 100 hertz.
pdidy 7:00 AM - 8 July, 2015
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Being that you're quite good at this YouTube thing could do the same demoing the wireless ipad or tablet app ?

Oh wait, you dont have an IOS device right ? and there's no app for the android device you have ?


right. no android app yet. I don't own an iPhone/iPad but when I find a friend with o e willing to install the program I'll be sure to capture it.

one thing I noticed was that there isnt a password protect feature when connecting to the speakers. seems like a potential security hole in some setups.

in this case the router should be password protected for your wireless devices not the app.
DJ GaFFle 1:39 PM - 8 July, 2015
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The tops started at 100 hertz (hi pass). The subs went from 35 to 80 hertz. So there is a small hole between 80 and 100 hertz.

Just use a 12dB slope instead of a steep 24dB one; that'll fill some of that small hole.
desmorider 2:45 PM - 8 July, 2015
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The tops started at 100 hertz (hi pass). The subs went from 35 to 80 hertz. So there is a small hole between 80 and 100 hertz.



Why didn't you run the subs 35-100hz, and not have the hole?
Viking16 12:14 AM - 9 July, 2015
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The tops started at 100 hertz (hi pass). The subs went from 35 to 80 hertz. So there is a small hole between 80 and 100 hertz.

Just use a 12dB slope instead of a steep 24dB one; that'll fill some of that small hole.


Good point. It might be set that way. I'll check next time I have that amp rack in front of me.

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The tops started at 100 hertz (hi pass). The subs went from 35 to 80 hertz. So there is a small hole between 80 and 100 hertz.



Why didn't you run the subs 35-100hz, and not have the hole?


Personal preference I guess. I felt the subs were tighter set up that way. There seemed to be less extended bass frequencies allowing for an overall cleaner sound but that's just my opinion. It may not be a "text book" way of setting up cross over points but the sub boxes in question were not from a factory. They were built locally so they're probably not as efficient as a factory made box.
Johnnynights 2:26 AM - 15 July, 2015
@eric5323 how do you like using the software when you do gigs is not annoying carrying those extra stuff router/extra cables?

I been doing a lot of mobile gigs with my 2 srx815p and just been running them on main setting but if its worth carrying a router and extra cables im up for it.

One thing i do notice is i cant use eq unless im using the audio architect software or app.
Johnnynights 6:10 PM - 16 July, 2015
@Scully yeah thats a good idea,ima look into that cuz i would like to tweak my speakers a bit.

Havent had much time to sit down and check all the settings.
DJZed 4:38 AM - 14 August, 2015
I recently bought a JBL SRX818sp and realized (a little bit too late) that I won't be able to test it out at a gig (to its limits) until after the "return by" date expires. Does anyone know if it'll be able to keep up with a pair of DXR15s with the built-in 100 Hz crossover?
Just my luck that right after I buy the SRX, Yamaha announces the DXS18 (wouldn't be able to fit under my table though). :P
pdidy 4:51 AM - 14 August, 2015
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I recently bought a JBL SRX818sp and realized (a little bit too late) that I won't be able to test it out at a gig (to its limits) until after the "return by" date expires. Does anyone know if it'll be able to keep up with a pair of DXR15s with the built-in 100 Hz crossover?
Just my luck that right after I buy the SRX, Yamaha announces the DXS18 (wouldn't be able to fit under my table though). :P

No, You will need about 4 JBL SRX818sp to keep up with the output of 2 DXR15s.

BTW, there are no small single 18s that keep up with 2 DXR15s.
DJZed 5:20 AM - 14 August, 2015
Really?
4 sounds like a lot for the DXRs--I've heard people use an XLF per side for DSRs, and although the XLFs limit first, they keep up decently. With a lowered crossover point, shouldn't a single be able to take at least some of the lifting for DXRs?
pdidy 5:58 AM - 14 August, 2015
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With a lowered crossover point, shouldn't a single be able to take at least some of the lifting for DXRs?

well sure but doesn't that apply to any decent sub you add ?

I appears to me that your expectations of a single sub are a bit high if not unrealistic but who knows its all really based on preference.
pdidy 6:04 AM - 14 August, 2015
if by any chance you are a wedding dj the 1 sub will likely be just fine but if you play loud hiphop/house/edm type music like I do..... 1 will never be enough.
DJFree 10:54 AM - 14 August, 2015
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Really?
4 sounds like a lot for the DXRs--I've heard people use an XLF per side for DSRs, and although the XLFs limit first, they keep up decently. With a lowered crossover point, shouldn't a single be able to take at least some of the lifting for DXRs?

I did a party with 2 DXR 15's and 1 XLF and the XLF was getting smoked.....I never tried two but my two SRX's are still no match for my PRX 712's.....you can use 2 though and just turn the tops down.
DJZed 1:12 PM - 14 August, 2015
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I did a party with 2 DXR 15's and 1 XLF and the XLF was getting smoked.....I never tried two but my two SRX's are still no match for my PRX 712's.....you can use 2 though and just turn the tops down.


What crossover frequency are you using?
And sorry--I know my tops, but I'm a noob in the subwoofer market.
DJFree 1:19 PM - 14 August, 2015
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I did a party with 2 DXR 15's and 1 XLF and the XLF was getting smoked.....I never tried two but my two SRX's are still no match for my PRX 712's.....you can use 2 though and just turn the tops down.


What crossover frequency are you using?
And sorry--I know my tops, but I'm a noob in the subwoofer market.

I'm no pro either....I can only give my experience with what I've owned...the 718xlf doesn't have an option....it's only 120hz....I use 120hz on the SRX's.....thumps harder to me....I can't give you advice on 100hz because I've never tried it in the field.....2 DXR 15's and 1 xlf was my setup for about 6 months....sounded damn good....but I wanted the uniform look so I sold and went with the 712's.
DJZed 1:42 PM - 14 August, 2015
I sort of wanted to gain a bit of the increased headroom on the hi-passed DXRs (which gain 6.5 dB with the 100 Hz HPF), but seems unrealistic at this point. The DXR horn (I feel like I'm going to get flak for this) gets a bit overpowering when pushed, which might be why I want the system to get louder in the first place.
I'll try to test the system with the 60 Hz filter some time soon, hopefully it'll do alright.
pdidy 1:51 PM - 14 August, 2015
@ DJZed

fyi.....Lowering the crossover point of a subwoofer will reduce the precised output to your ears and measured spl but it will likely sound cleaner.

Your only option to increase subwoofer SPL to match your tops is to add more subs.

Or you could just turn your tops down till your subs catch up like everyone else is doing......lol
Al Poulin 3:03 PM - 14 August, 2015
Yep, adding more subs and/or making sure the sound is balanced properly is likely the issue here. Adjusting the gains on the tops/subs (will likely need to be set at different levels because of gain sensitivity variations from one manufacturer to another) so that neither overpowers the other is key. Being that I have many different tops I can use with my subs, I quickly discovered how some spekaers/subs simply need a hotter signal from the mixer (or higher gain setting) to produce a given SPL level. This has nothing to do with the maximum output capability of the speakers BTW, some speakers simply need more (or less) signal that others to produce a given amount of sound.

Al
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:42 PM - 14 August, 2015
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The tops started at 100 hertz (hi pass). The subs went from 35 to 80 hertz. So there is a small hole between 80 and 100 hertz.

Just use a 12dB slope instead of a steep 24dB one; that'll fill some of that small hole.


***Noted****
DJZed 10:56 PM - 14 August, 2015
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@ DJZed

fyi.....Lowering the crossover point of a subwoofer will reduce the precised output to your ears and measured spl but it will likely sound cleaner.

Your only option to increase subwoofer SPL to match your tops is to add more subs.

Or you could just turn your tops down till your subs catch up like everyone else is doing......lol


I know--the lower crossover is to boost the overall output of the system (so the sub can keep up with the tops for longer.)
pdidy 11:36 PM - 14 August, 2015
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fyi.....Lowering the crossover point of a subwoofer will reduce the precised output to your ears and measured spl but it will likely sound cleaner.

Your only option to increase subwoofer SPL to match your tops is to add more subs.

Or you could just turn your tops down till your subs catch up like everyone else is doing......lol


I know--the lower crossover is to boost the overall output of the system (so the sub can keep up with the tops for longer.)

youre not getting it sir
DJZed 12:21 AM - 15 August, 2015
Can you clarify please?
eric5323 3:02 AM - 15 August, 2015
Hi all,

I'm checking back in after multiple gigs with the 835/828 setup. I have received many compliments on how clean they sound, even at a distance. A lot of folks didn't believe the sound was coming from just three cabinets, asking "where are the amplifers?" as I tell them they're built in.

I can see myself adding a second 828 at some point. The pair of 835s will easily overpower the sub, especially cranking rock/country genres outdoors. The sound quality was prime, just not the "thump." That wasn't really a surprise though as I expected that going in. Indoors I have surfaces to use to my advantage, so no issues there up to 75x200ft or so.

I compensated for this by crossing the 835s down to the 78-80hz range or so (vs the cooked-in SRX top crossover of around 100) with a high shelf EQ and upping the 60-80hz range on the 828 to push a little more kick so all three limiters pop concurrently. Once I found the butter zone, I saved the presets! I absolutely love these things, especially that you can tweak them on the fly with software on the laptop. Connected with WiFi, you can put yourself where the crowd would be and hear the changes in realtime. JBL, you've got a winner here.

Other than in "exhibition mode" I have not needed to push these to limiting to get the job done. I can count on one hand the times I've actually NEEDED to push past 80 percent or so.

I may not need a second 828, but what could it hurt other than my back? I'm a basshead anyway. Neighbors be darned when I throw a house party. ;)

~Eric
danielw 8:21 PM - 27 August, 2015
Hey!
Can anyone tell me if 4 etx18sp will go louder and deeper the 2 srx828sp? Thanks
DJ GaFFle 9:12 PM - 27 August, 2015
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Can anyone tell me if 4 etx18sp will go louder and deeper the 2 srx828sp? Thanks

Good question! I don't know but what tops do you run?
danielw 9:20 PM - 27 August, 2015
:) don't know jet, if i will go with the jbl it will be 835p. if i will go with the ev maybe the etx35p or the etx15p depending on deal i get on the 35p..
danielw 9:30 PM - 27 August, 2015
My old setup was 4 vrx918sp and 2 etx12p but i sold it. And honestly. I sold my vrx woofers because the didn't go loud enough.. the distorted log before the limit light on the amps.. i know people in here thinks that there most be something wrong.. but now... we did a side by side test with 1 vrx918sp and one etx18p and the etx sounded better under pressure... but now when the new srx line is out i will save a lot off money on buying 2 828 over 4 ETX..
danielw 9:33 PM - 27 August, 2015
For live music the vrx is great but for bass heavy "edm" you can tell that the amps on the vrx is to small.. because the passive vrx with the right amps goes much louder and cleaner in sound...
DJZed 10:31 PM - 27 August, 2015
The SRX818sp and ETX18sp both have similar specs--from what I've heard, the ETX does get a bit louder than the SRX. That being said, they both have very good low end extension and I don't think you could go wrong with either series.
I was debating between the SRX818sp and the ETX18sp for a long time--I finally went with the SRX because of the network connection; the ability to EQ the speaker to personal preference and HiQnet's other features were well worth the extra $. Price-wise you'd be saving a lot of money going with the dual JBLs over the EVs (which you can use to buy more speakers if necessary :P)
Haven't heard the VRX series for any playback music, but the SRX818sp sounds very full and "complete" when playing EDM.
DJ GaFFle 10:56 PM - 27 August, 2015
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:) don't know jet, if i will go with the jbl it will be 835p. if i will go with the ev maybe the etx35p or the etx15p depending on deal i get on the 35p..

I'd go with the SRX835P's and 828SP subs. Matching brands, killer 3-way top with 3" high voicecoil, manageable dual 18" sub (best have an SUV or trailer though). You won't go wrong with the EV ETX but I'm just not a fan of the high drivers they chose to load them with. With 4 EXT18SP subs, you'll be flexible in breaking the system up. Less flexibility with dual 18" subs. I'd still go the SRX route even if choosing the SRX18SP single subs.
eric5323 11:22 PM - 27 August, 2015
I just "had" to get a second 828SP and I'm loving it. A single 835 really needs two 18-inch woofers to maximize its sound potential in my opinion, especially outdoors. The dual boxes just made financial sense. Although they're bulky I can still manage them myself with a little forward thinking, moving blankets, and a collapsible hand truck. Good job, JBL! Can't wait for the next gig.

imgur.com
DJ GaFFle 11:25 PM - 27 August, 2015
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I just "had" to get a second 828SP and I'm loving it. A single 835 really needs two 18-inch woofers to maximize its sound potential in my opinion, especially outdoors. The dual boxes just made financial sense. Although they're bulky I can still manage them myself with a little forward thinking, moving blankets, and a collapsible hand truck. Good job, JBL! Can't wait for the next gig.

imgur.com

You don't have speaker covers?
DJZed 11:33 PM - 27 August, 2015
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I don't blame him. The covers cost an absurd amount of money.
eric5323 11:42 PM - 27 August, 2015
I've been using moving blankets from Harbor Freight for a couple years with my QSCs and now these with nary a ding so long as you load and move them smartly. I'll wrap them, fold the ends, and use lashing straps to keep the blanket on. Some of the covers I've seen seem to offer less protection than a couple $6 blankets. Granted, they don't look as "pro." I use the speakers in my garage, that's why they're not covered.
Johnnynights 11:46 PM - 27 August, 2015
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I just "had" to get a second 828SP and I'm loving it. A single 835 really needs two 18-inch woofers to maximize its sound potential in my opinion, especially outdoors. The dual boxes just made financial sense. Although they're bulky I can still manage them myself with a little forward thinking, moving blankets, and a collapsible hand truck. Good job, JBL! Can't wait for the next gig.

imgur.com

Nice system i think i should have picked up some srx835 instead of my 815 lol

Im still deciding to either keep my yorkville ls801p or get some srx828sp
DJFree 12:37 AM - 28 August, 2015
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I don't blame him. The covers cost an absurd amount of money.

Hell if you already spent thousands why not spend another 300 for covers lol
DJZed 12:49 AM - 28 August, 2015
Because it's not the DXR series. :P
I'll always buy covers since I use DXRs and I've just become accustomed to them, but the SRX covers are pretty pricey.

JBL SRX835/818sp covers = $160 each
JBL PRX735/718XLF covers = $95 each
DJFree 12:52 AM - 28 August, 2015
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Because it's not the DXR series. :P
I'll always buy covers since I use DXRs and I've just become accustomed to them, but the SRX covers are pretty pricey.

JBL SRX835/818sp covers = $160 each
JBL PRX735/718XLF covers = $95 each

Yes I know the cost....I own 2 covers for SRX818sp's....I had covers for everything I own though....I guess that's just me.
DJZed 12:53 AM - 28 August, 2015
Out of curiosity, did you buy the covers for the WK4 casters or just the regular version?
DJFree 12:56 AM - 28 August, 2015
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Out of curiosity, did you buy the covers for the WK4 casters or just the regular version?The first one I bought was for the casters....but I decided I wouldn't add them so I returned it and bought 2 without....it's a better snug fit.
DJZed 1:00 AM - 28 August, 2015
I bought the WK4 one and couldn't return it--I don't get why JBL didn't include a flap for the amplifier panel. I'll probably end up making a makeshift cover out of plastic wrap and gaff tape. :P
DJFree 1:02 AM - 28 August, 2015
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I bought the WK4 one and couldn't return it--I don't get why JBL didn't include a flap for the amplifier panel. I'll probably end up making a makeshift cover out of plastic wrap and gaff tape. :P

It doesn't fit snug even with the casters? I got lucky....I hadn't gigged with them yet so my cover was still practically new.
DJZed 1:08 AM - 28 August, 2015
I actually haven't purchased the casters because I have a dolly and didn't realize there were two versions of the 818 cover when I purchased it. When the subwoofer is sitting on the amp/caster side, the cover definitely fits--when it sits on its bottom though, the cover doesn't fit as well. You'd have to store the sub on its wheels for the cover to fit properly.
Joee 11:22 AM - 28 August, 2015
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I don't blame him. The covers cost an absurd amount of money.

Hell if you already spent thousands why not spend another 300 for covers lol


he said he uses furniture moving blankets …….in most cases they will actually provide better protection than the jbl covers ,if he wraps them right


but honestly why bother like you said you spend all this money on speakers whats a few dollars more? i'm sure he doesn't drive his car without insurance, these covers are speaker insurance
SG SOUNDS 11:25 AM - 28 August, 2015
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Can anyone tell me if 4 etx18sp will go louder and deeper the 2 srx828sp? Thanks


4 etx18sp will hit harder than 2 srx828sp
DJ GaFFle 12:38 PM - 28 August, 2015
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I don't blame him. The covers cost an absurd amount of money.

Hell if you already spent thousands why not spend another 300 for covers lol

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Can anyone tell me if 4 etx18sp will go louder and deeper the 2 srx828sp? Thanks


4 etx18sp will hit harder than 2 srx828sp

That doesn't surprise me. The ETX18SP's are beasts.
DJ Guayo 12:47 PM - 28 August, 2015
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I don't blame him. The covers cost an absurd amount of money.

Hell if you already spent thousands why not spend another 300 for covers lol

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Yup. You can also get custom ones made from Tuki. I worked with them on getting a flap to go underneath my RCF 8004s to cover the subwoofer control panel.

We preach it all time and hate to hear it when its your turn.....'Buy once...cry once'





Taipanic 2:44 PM - 28 August, 2015
I have Mama sewing me up some custom covers from those $6.00 Harbor Freight moving blankets now. If they work good, will save me $2-300. If not, I'll pick up some Tukis or some weather resistant ones from Under Cover.
DJ Guayo 3:27 PM - 28 August, 2015
I tried those moving blanket ones and they ripped within 2 gigs. These were being moved in a drop lift truck and tied down. If you moved your gear in your personal vehicle it may not be an issue.

I don't blame your for trying the homemade route though.
Taipanic 5:10 PM - 28 August, 2015
I figure for $12 a cover (includes free labor), why not try them. Most of my current PA was purchased used and is a little banged up anyways.
eric5323 5:29 PM - 28 August, 2015
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I tried those moving blanket ones and they ripped within 2 gigs. These were being moved in a drop lift truck and tied down. If you moved your gear in your personal vehicle it may not be an issue.

I don't blame your for trying the homemade route though.


Very true, you'll have to take care to avoid snagging what is essentially a pressed-fiber fabric. They tear readily if abused even the slightest. Expect to lose a few; I use my holey ones as groundcover for tent camping. The cheap blue moving blankets aren't very strong, but there are the "camo" ones made of real fabric that are much more robust. They cost a bit more, but why only in camo pattern harbor freight?

I do like the fact that the official covers have a grille guard built-in and are made of beefy nylon but I'd like to feel out the SRX series protectors in person before dropping 7+ bills, especially since the process I've been using for several years now hasn't failed me...yet :) I am very meticulous with my loading/unloading process though.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 6:40 PM - 28 August, 2015
You guys must be using some very cheap ass moving blankets.
sig916 12:09 AM - 29 August, 2015
I've been following this page for awhile. If you didn't see my post in the beginning, I mention that I got two 835p for free. Will not technically not free but I did some work for it. I wish I can use this two speaker but I'm not really a dj of any type (just a sound operator at church). I try getting into dj but I guess it wasn't for me. So I want to sell this two 835p along with my new Mackie ppm1012 powered mixer and a Odyssey FR1116WDLX case. You probably think that why am I using a powered mixer with powered speaker. Well, the mixer can also output line level. If that's what it called. My plan was in the near future I want to use the power amp for monitor but I never got around it. I got the speaker new sometime April-May and the mixer new sometime May-June. The Odyssey FR1116WDLX case was purchase by the church last year. The speakers and mixer have very little hours of usage. I used it couple time in my little apartment for karaoke. Total estimate value excluding tax is around $4800. I will take 4000 for all. I look up the price online and the 835p goes for 1599. I paid 1100 for the mixer and the case was purchased for 599 last year. I prefer pickup because I never ship something this big before. I will also ship but will have to figure it out and you will have to pay for shipping. No discount just because you have to pay for shipping. I live in Sacramento 95823.

Sorry for the bad grammars. I only been in United State for 5 years.

I prefer you email me at arc916@yahoo.com
sig916 12:11 AM - 29 August, 2015
I forgot to mention that I still have the boxes for the speakers and the mixer. :)
DJ GaFFle 12:46 AM - 29 August, 2015
It seems as though more people choose the SRX835 over any other SRX8-series model.
eric5323 11:01 PM - 7 September, 2015
My review of the 835p/828sp after a couple months: Watchwww.youtube.com
djdisbjohn 3:30 AM - 8 September, 2015
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My review of the 835p/828sp after a couple months: Watchwww.youtube.com


nice review!
SG SOUNDS 11:46 AM - 8 September, 2015
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My review of the 835p/828sp after a couple months: Watchwww.youtube.com


nice review i love the sleek look of these speakers compared to my etx...how hard do 2 of those 828 hit? is it yorkville hard/punch? i
Andyoz 7:46 PM - 12 September, 2015
Note to all Android users....SRX Connect is available to download (appeared on Play site on 2 Sept)

It still says 'Coming Soon' on JBL website though.
SG SOUNDS 3:10 PM - 22 October, 2015
Can 2 srx835 handle 4 srx 828? im thinking 1 srx835 over 2 srx 828 on one side of a med-large hall and another of the same on the opposite side of the hall....im thinking if i go this route would save me alot than going the danley route and this srx set up should satisfy me bass wise on my mid to large gigs.. (mostly outdoors)
what you guys think i need advice here..
Joee 3:20 PM - 22 October, 2015
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Can 2 srx835 handle 4 srx 828? im thinking 1 srx835 over 2 srx 828 on one side of a med-large hall and another of the same on the opposite side of the hall....im thinking if i go this route would save me alot than going the danley route and this srx set up should satisfy me bass wise on my mid to large gigs.. (mostly outdoors)
what you guys think i need advice here..


would that give you the coverage you need? if so i think it would be fine, if not you can always add two more later
SG SOUNDS 3:31 PM - 22 October, 2015
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Can 2 srx835 handle 4 srx 828? im thinking 1 srx835 over 2 srx 828 on one side of a med-large hall and another of the same on the opposite side of the hall....im thinking if i go this route would save me alot than going the danley route and this srx set up should satisfy me bass wise on my mid to large gigs.. (mostly outdoors)
what you guys think i need advice here..


would that give you the coverage you need? if so i think it would be fine, if not you can always add two more later


im not sure thats why im asking those that already have the srx 828...i heard a set up with 2 if them and thought they sounded ok but not like my 4 yorkies set up..so i was wondering if 4 srx 828 would do the job with 2 srx 835 or my etx 35p
Joee 3:47 PM - 22 October, 2015
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im not sure thats why im asking those that already have the srx 828...i heard a set up with 2 if them and thought they sounded ok but not like my 4 yorkies set up..so i was wondering if 4 srx 828 would do the job with 2 srx 835 or my etx 35p


reading some of your comments it's doesn't seem like any sub in that $2000 price will make you a happy as your yorks do


why not just upgrade to these yorkville.com


than the question is what tops should you get? if the etx35 are doing it for you get two more, altho for outdoor gigs the 3" horn on the srx 835 will be better
Taipanic 5:04 PM - 22 October, 2015
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im not sure thats why im asking those that already have the srx 828...i heard a set up with 2 if them and thought they sounded ok but not like my 4 yorkies set up..so i was wondering if 4 srx 828 would do the job with 2 srx 835 or my etx 35p


reading some of your comments it's doesn't seem like any sub in that $2000 price will make you a happy as your yorks do


why not just upgrade to these yorkville.com


than the question is what tops should you get? if the etx35 are doing it for you get two more, altho for outdoor gigs the 3" horn on the srx 835 will be better


I'd probably sell the Yorkville subs and start off with 2 JTR Orbit Shifters or Danley TH-118s and go from there. Both can be had powered. Big bass always = big boxes + big $
DJ GaFFle 7:25 PM - 22 October, 2015
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...Big bass always = big boxes + big $

I'm gonna put this on a t-shirt. :-)
SELECT 7:32 PM - 22 October, 2015
You do realize 3 ways have terrible coverage patterns. People generally use them in pairs.
SELECT 7:36 PM - 22 October, 2015
www.hamuniverse.com

Most 3 ways spread out to 60 degrees. Most 2 ways are 90 degrees. My old SRX were about 75 degrees and if you were dancing just a little bit to the left or right of it the sound would drop dramatically.
DJ GaFFle 7:43 PM - 22 October, 2015
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You do realize 3 ways have terrible coverage patterns. People generally use them in pairs.

I've never heard terrible used in conjunction with 3-way... :-p

... but they make up with great sound quality that 2-ways can't achieve. Plus, that tighter 60 degree pattern does lend to a farther 'throw'.
Joee 7:55 PM - 22 October, 2015
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...Big bass always = big boxes + big $

I'm gonna put this on a t-shirt. :-)


we don't all need to do physical damage to the venues we work in mr. knock down light fixtures / air vent fixtures ……lol


what else has fallen victim to the danley…….lol
Joee 7:56 PM - 22 October, 2015
and you have FOUR……..sickening………lol
SELECT 8:40 PM - 22 October, 2015
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You do realize 3 ways have terrible coverage patterns. People generally use them in pairs.

I've never heard terrible used in conjunction with 3-way... :-p

... but they make up with great sound quality that 2-ways can't achieve. Plus, that tighter 60 degree pattern does lend to a farther 'throw'.


My bad, terrible choice of words lol. Yes they sound better, absolutely! I just cant get past the narrow coverage patterns. Thats another reason I cant get into line arrays. You just need too many to cover a room correctly. Minimum of 4 tops. I know a guy who uses the QSC 153 tops and he has problems with filling in some venues so know he rolls with 4 of them just in case.
pdidy 8:45 PM - 22 October, 2015
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To answer your question, absolutely....

I base this on the fact that it take 3-4 JBL VRX918sp to keep up with 1 of my EV-Zxa5's.
Your srx835 should equal if not pass the output of my EV-Zxa5 so 2 srx828's per top should be just fine for loud bass heavy music.
Scully DJ Services 3:52 PM - 24 October, 2015
Zamn I wanna hear this setup of 2 835s and 4 828s
Macafro91 6:09 PM - 19 November, 2015
Hey All,

I absolutely love this site and it is by far one of the most knowledgeable forums i've stumbled across and was so beneficial when I was in the hunt for audio gear. So thanks for being awesome! Anyways, I just wanted to say that I actually picked up one of the SRX818sp and it sounds incredible. I would agree with most that it isn't producing the spl that is documented, but its not the hardest thing in the world for me to give up for a really full bodied sound. I preferred the sound of the SRX818 over the KW181, PRX718, and VRX918. Never heard the "ELX118" to compare. I might be biased though because I've never really been impressed by the VRX918. I feel like the VRX is one of the punchiest subs out there, but doesn't have the low end that I was after. However, I guess its just a matter of preference and what you are trying to achieve. For a small bar/club or any venue that requires set up/tear down I think the SRX will perform vary well. If I was doing an install though for live sound/band I would stay away from most front loaded subs. I'm a sucker for horn driven subs.
DJ GaFFle 9:01 PM - 19 November, 2015
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Your srx835 should equal if not pass the output of my EV-Zxa5...

Believe me when I say it's louder... in every possible way.
pdidy 12:26 AM - 20 November, 2015
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Hey All,

I absolutely love this site and it is by far one of the most knowledgeable forums i've stumbled across and was so beneficial when I was in the hunt for audio gear. So thanks for being awesome! Anyways, I just wanted to say that I actually picked up one of the SRX818sp and it sounds incredible. I would agree with most that it isn't producing the spl that is documented, but its not the hardest thing in the world for me to give up for a really full bodied sound. I preferred the sound of the SRX818 over the KW181, PRX718, and VRX918. Never heard the "ELX118" to compare. I might be biased though because I've never really been impressed by the VRX918. I feel like the VRX is one of the punchiest subs out there, but doesn't have the low end that I was after. However, I guess its just a matter of preference and what you are trying to achieve. For a small bar/club or any venue that requires set up/tear down I think the SRX will perform vary well. If I was doing an install though for live sound/band I would stay away from most front loaded subs. I'm a sucker for horn driven subs.

VRX918 = passive version
VRX918sp = active version
which were you demoing ?
Macafro91 1:33 PM - 20 November, 2015
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VRX918sp = active version
which were you demoing ?


Sorry Pdidy, all the subs are the active versions. We have 4 VRX918sp as a part of a church install that I run sound for. I will say the building seats about 500 and has very odd acoustics, but i've just never been a fan of the sound of the VRX918sp. I will say that they are tanks and can be driven hard though. However, I have also heard the VRX918sp at a local brewery paired with six VRX932LAP and they always have the cleanest sound, but still just lacks the lowend for me. As I mentioned before though some people prefer more of a punchy sound so its really just preference.
SG SOUNDS 1:42 PM - 20 November, 2015
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Sorry Pdidy, all the subs are the active versions. We have 4 VRX918sp as a part of a church install that I run sound for. I will say the building seats about 500 and has very odd acoustics, but i've just never been a fan of the sound of the VRX918sp. I will say that they are tanks and can be driven hard though. However, I have also heard the VRX918sp at a local brewery paired with six VRX932LAP and they always have the cleanest sound, but still just lacks the lowend for me. As I mentioned before though some people prefer more of a punchy sound so its really just preference.


So are you saying the srx818sp has a punchier bass than the vrx subs?
Macafro91 1:56 PM - 20 November, 2015
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So are you saying the srx818sp has a punchier bass than the vrx subs?


I actually think the VRX subs are punchier. The SRX subs seem to produce lower frequencies better giving it a fuller more rounded sound. I just think the 80hz range in the VRX is more prominent naturally.
SELECT 3:21 PM - 20 November, 2015
I don't think I would describe the VRX or SRX sound as punchy. IMO they deliver deep, low, rich, clean, smooth bass. I would also say they are super sensitive to placement. Against walls, stages and some other spots Ive found the project a tad more forward and "punchier" sounding.
SG SOUNDS 4:15 PM - 20 November, 2015
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So are you saying the srx818sp has a punchier bass than the vrx subs?


I actually think the VRX subs are punchier. The SRX subs seem to produce lower frequencies better giving it a fuller more rounded sound. I just think the 80hz range in the VRX is more prominent naturally.


So coupled together will add more punch then?
example 2 srx828's stacked on top of each other.
SG SOUNDS 4:19 PM - 20 November, 2015
Is anybody using 2 srx828's stacked or even 4
would love to know the results...the price for these srx828p subs is not bad at all and very tempting..im saving for some danleys but strongly considering 4 srx828p to replace my yorkies..
Macafro91 5:04 PM - 20 November, 2015
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I don't think I would describe the VRX or SRX sound as punchy. IMO they deliver deep, low, rich, clean, smooth bass. I would also say they are super sensitive to placement. Against walls, stages and some other spots Ive found the project a tad more forward and "punchier" sounding.


I agree that placement is crucial. Also I am not a DJ and refer to the characteristics that I notice from a live sound/full band perspective. I have heard the VRX in two different venues and surprisingly the sub just wasn't as full bodied as I expected it to be. Thats just my opinion though.
DJFree 5:14 PM - 20 November, 2015
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I preferred the sound of the SRX818 over the KW181, PRX718, and VRX918. Never heard the "ELX118" to compare. I might be biased though because I've never really been impressed by the VRX918.


Have you heard the 828sp? If so does 1 828sp equal 2 818sp's?
SELECT 5:15 PM - 20 November, 2015
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I don't think I would describe the VRX or SRX sound as punchy. IMO they deliver deep, low, rich, clean, smooth bass. I would also say they are super sensitive to placement. Against walls, stages and some other spots Ive found the project a tad more forward and "punchier" sounding.


I agree that placement is crucial. Also I am not a DJ and refer to the characteristics that I notice from a live sound/full band perspective. I have heard the VRX in two different venues and surprisingly the sub just wasn't as full bodied as I expected it to be. Thats just my opinion though.


Also one users setup will sound completely different than the next talking into factors as DBX boxes and mixer boards with extensive DSP. Overall tho I know what they sound like as stand alone boxes and they can take a lot of abuse and sound great when tuned right.
Macafro91 7:20 PM - 20 November, 2015
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Also one users setup will sound completely different than the next talking into factors as DBX boxes and mixer boards with extensive DSP. Overall tho I know what they sound like as stand alone boxes and they can take a lot of abuse and sound great when tuned right.


I agree completely with you and I am not saying that the box sounds bad by any means. It is a work horse for sure. I just preferred the sound of the SRX vs VRX in a stand alone test. In saying that, you wouldn't have to pinch me into buying a VRX. Both are great boxes!
Macafro91 7:30 PM - 20 November, 2015
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Have you heard the 828sp? If so does 1 828sp equal 2 818sp's?


@DJFree I haven't had the chance to hear the SRX828sp yet unfortunately, but I highly doubt that it would equal two SRX818sp boxes. However, It would be the more cost effective way to get better spl out of your system and the 828 will hit lower frequencies than just the 818 which is never bad thing in my opinion.
Elite Sound & Lighting 6:41 AM - 21 November, 2015
So I finally caught up to this long thread. I currently have 4 SRX828SP and 2 SRX835P. The sound from this system is ridiculous. I sold my 2 ETX15P and 4 ETX18SP to upgrade and the difference in sound is not comparable, not even close. I stacked the SRX subs outdoors and the bass was so low and hitting hard I was impressed. Don't doubt the new SRX line. I have a few pics if you want to check them out....videos to come soon.
i587.photobucket.com
pdidy 8:19 AM - 21 November, 2015
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I don't think I would describe the VRX or SRX sound as punchy. IMO they deliver deep, low, rich, clean, smooth bass. I would also say they are super sensitive to placement. Against walls, stages and some other spots Ive found the project a tad more forward and "punchier" sounding.


I agree that placement is crucial. Also I am not a DJ and refer to the characteristics that I notice from a live sound/full band perspective. I have heard the VRX in two different venues and surprisingly the sub just wasn't as full bodied as I expected it to be. Thats just my opinion though.

I agree with SELECT, I have never heard the VRX819sp described as a punchy sub because its known for going Looow. So my educated guess is something was not setup right in the DSP or frequency cancellation due to placement when you heard the VRX918sp.

But I can make the VRX918sp punchy by disengaging the internal crossover from 80hz to 120hz, setting DSP crossover to 100hz while boosting eq frequencies 80hz-100hz. But as you can see it takes a lil tweaking and is not punchy by default or when run flat.
SG SOUNDS 1:48 PM - 21 November, 2015
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So I finally caught up to this long thread. I currently have 4 SRX828SP and 2 SRX835P. The sound from this system is ridiculous. I sold my 2 ETX15P and 4 ETX18SP to upgrade and the difference in sound is not comparable, not even close. I stacked the SRX subs outdoors and the bass was so low and hitting hard I was impressed. Don't doubt the new SRX line. I have a few pics if you want to check them out....videos to come soon.
i587.photobucket.com


thanks for the input...i think this is the first comment ive read that said the srx hits harder than the etx subs...everywhere else i read on multiple threads they say the complete opposite..your set up however is with the etx15 so maybe thats the difference idk..but ive read many threads with people saying the etx 35p and 4 etx18sp hits harder than the srx set up..
Taipanic 5:24 PM - 21 November, 2015
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thanks for the input...i think this is the first comment ive read that said the srx hits harder than the etx subs...everywhere else i read on multiple threads they say the complete opposite..your set up however is with the etx15 so maybe thats the difference idk..but ive read many threads with people saying the etx 35p and 4 etx18sp hits harder than the srx set up..


You would really need to hear them yourself to decide. Personally, I think the EV line sounds a bit warmer with recorded music, the JBLs are better for live music, though both are above average for either. Also, if your talking about Elite's setup, keep in mind he's running the double 18 subs = 8 of the etx18s.
pdidy 8:03 PM - 21 November, 2015
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So I finally caught up to this long thread. I currently have 4 SRX828SP and 2 SRX835P. The sound from this system is ridiculous. I sold my 2 ETX15P and 4 ETX18SP to upgrade and the difference in sound is not comparable, not even close. I stacked the SRX subs outdoors and the bass was so low and hitting hard I was impressed. Don't doubt the new SRX line. I have a few pics if you want to check them out....videos to come soon.
i587.photobucket.com


thanks for the input...i think this is the first comment ive read that said the srx hits harder than the etx subs...everywhere else i read on multiple threads they say the complete opposite..your set up however is with the etx15 so maybe thats the difference idk..but ive read many threads with people saying the etx 35p and 4 etx18sp hits harder than the srx set up..

Elite Sound & Lighting comparison is very vague and can be VERY misleading but Whether or not it's intentional to deceive I don't know. Elite Sound & Lighting is comparing 3 or 4 etx18p to 4 SRX828SP which is the equivalent to 8 X 18" subs. A fair comparison would be 8 x etx18p vs 4 SRX828SP.
SELECT 9:04 PM - 21 November, 2015
Pdidy what are you using for DSP on your setup, DBX? Are you still tuning it wireless?
pdidy 2:59 AM - 22 November, 2015
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the vrx is plug n play but i always use dsp dbx driverack pa2. i still tune wireless and ive never tuned manually.
Elite Sound & Lighting 3:32 AM - 25 November, 2015
Hey guys, first off. I'm not trying to be deceitful, I could care less what you buy....it's your money. The comment about not comparing apples to apples is absolutely correct, I have 4 SRX828 coming from 4 ETX18....I have double the subs essentially. My ETX system was great, but unfortunately you can't find too much info on the new SRX line. If your in the market for a new rig and can't decide you can't go wrong either way BUT for my application double 18s are a must. I have the means to transport and like most have said, JBLs are they way to go for live sound. I considered myself an EV fan, and still do. But the specs and price point you can get the SRXs at are a no brainier. Just want people to know you can't go wrong with the new SRX line. ETX or SRX FTW.
Elite Sound & Lighting 3:38 AM - 25 November, 2015
Also, sorry for being vague in my review. I just don't want to start trying to spit specs and crap when I'm no expert. At the end of the day it's my opinion and opinions are like ass$@&$/-, everybody has one.
pdidy 4:27 AM - 25 November, 2015
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But the specs and price point you can get the SRXs at are a no brainier.

I agree, if size an weight is no issue the SRX828 can not be beat in this price range.

For example, last week I purchased a EV ETX18p for a family member for $1450 delivered. (best price i could get)

Then a few days ago a forum member advised me he can get the JBL SRX828p (double 18") for $1500 @ just $50 more than the single EV ETX......... yep that's a no brainier.
Scully DJ Services 4:36 AM - 25 November, 2015
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But the specs and price point you can get the SRXs at are a no brainier.

I agree, if size an weight is no issue the SRX828 can not be beat in this price range.

For example, last week I purchased a EV ETX18p for a family member for $1450 delivered. (best price i could get)

Then a few days ago a forum member advised me he can get the JBL SRX828p (double 18") for $1500 @ just $50 more than the single EV ETX......... yep that's a no brainier.


You got robbed! You can get ETX18SPs for less than 1200 shipped.
pdidy 4:40 AM - 25 November, 2015
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You got robbed! You can get ETX18SPs for less than 1200 shipped.

Damm, were you get it from ?
Scully DJ Services 5:15 AM - 25 November, 2015
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You got robbed! You can get ETX18SPs for less than 1200 shipped.

Damm, were you get it from ?


PAS. Also, york 801p vs SRX828. Which has better output, sound quality, throw, and depth?
SG SOUNDS 5:40 AM - 25 November, 2015
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You got robbed! You can get ETX18SPs for less than 1200 shipped.

Damm, were you get it from ?


PAS. Also, york 801p vs SRX828. Which has better output, sound quality, throw, and depth?


I think the yorkies will win in output and the srx will win in sound quality...throw and depth not sure....seriously thinking of getting 4 srx828 this should match the output of my 4 yorkies and sound extremely better sound quality wise..
DJZed 5:50 AM - 25 November, 2015
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I think the yorkies will win in output and the srx will win in sound quality...throw and depth not sure....seriously thinking of getting 4 srx828 this should match the output of my 4 yorkies and sound extremely better sound quality wise..


One single LS801P will beat out an SRX828?! Damn, I knew the LS801P was loud, but I didn't realize it was THAT loud.... XD
SG SOUNDS 5:53 AM - 25 November, 2015
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I think the yorkies will win in output and the srx will win in sound quality...throw and depth not sure....seriously thinking of getting 4 srx828 this should match the output of my 4 yorkies and sound extremely better sound quality wise..


One single LS801P will beat out an SRX828?! Damn, I knew the LS801P was loud, but I didn't realize it was THAT loud.... XD


Yes they are THAT LOUD
DJ GaFFle 11:12 AM - 25 November, 2015
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I think the yorkies will win in output and the srx will win in sound quality...throw and depth not sure....seriously thinking of getting 4 srx828 this should match the output of my 4 yorkies and sound extremely better sound quality wise..


One single LS801P will beat out an SRX828?! Damn, I knew the LS801P was loud, but I didn't realize it was THAT loud.... XD


Yes they are THAT LOUD from 55Hz - 85Hz.

Fixed. :-)
Scully DJ Services 2:21 PM - 25 November, 2015
Okay Gaffle, so whats your take on the York vs the SRX828? I am looking for the best bang for your buck all in one solution. I play mainly school dances and parties from 30-250 people. The music is mainly top 40 pop stuff with some bass heavy hip hop and EDM. For tops, I use 2 Yamaha DBR15s. I am wanting whatever sub that I choose to be able to fit in my pickup, provide enough bass on its own to be sufficient for my gigs, and not sound bad. I know the York doesnt go super low, but how much does that matter in real life? For example, in the song Lifestyle there are the 'moving' bass hits the hit pretty hard. Would either sub be able to hit all of these notes? Same with the Instant Party remix of Uptown Funk. Awful song I know, but curious as it has a super deep bass fill that has made me wonder which subs can and can not hit it. Thanks for the help
SELECT 3:01 PM - 25 November, 2015
Depends on what sound you are looking for. Horn loaded subs sound different from bass reflex subs. The project differently also.
Scully DJ Services 3:06 PM - 25 November, 2015
I'm wanting people to feel it in their chests. Also, I would like the bass to be projected as far as possible within reason. For that reason, I am kinda leaning towards the York. Also, the fact that I can get the York for at least $300 cheaper is a definite plus. Am I correct in assuming that one York and one SRX828 will be similar in output?
SELECT 3:10 PM - 25 November, 2015
You need to hear them for yourself. No way you can decide without listening to both. Be smart.
Rebelguy 4:03 PM - 25 November, 2015
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Okay Gaffle, so whats your take on the York vs the SRX828? I am looking for the best bang for your buck all in one solution. I play mainly school dances and parties from 30-250 people. The music is mainly top 40 pop stuff with some bass heavy hip hop and EDM. For tops, I use 2 Yamaha DBR15s. I am wanting whatever sub that I choose to be able to fit in my pickup, provide enough bass on its own to be sufficient for my gigs, and not sound bad. I know the York doesnt go super low, but how much does that matter in real life? For example, in the song Lifestyle there are the 'moving' bass hits the hit pretty hard. Would either sub be able to hit all of these notes? Same with the Instant Party remix of Uptown Funk. Awful song I know, but curious as it has a super deep bass fill that has made me wonder which subs can and can not hit it. Thanks for the help


I think the real question here is that between Lifestyle and Uptown Funk you really consider Uptown Funk to the be the awful song? Haha.
Scully DJ Services 5:16 PM - 25 November, 2015
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Okay Gaffle, so whats your take on the York vs the SRX828? I am looking for the best bang for your buck all in one solution. I play mainly school dances and parties from 30-250 people. The music is mainly top 40 pop stuff with some bass heavy hip hop and EDM. For tops, I use 2 Yamaha DBR15s. I am wanting whatever sub that I choose to be able to fit in my pickup, provide enough bass on its own to be sufficient for my gigs, and not sound bad. I know the York doesnt go super low, but how much does that matter in real life? For example, in the song Lifestyle there are the 'moving' bass hits the hit pretty hard. Would either sub be able to hit all of these notes? Same with the Instant Party remix of Uptown Funk. Awful song I know, but curious as it has a super deep bass fill that has made me wonder which subs can and can not hit it. Thanks for the help


I think the real question here is that between Lifestyle and Uptown Funk you really consider Uptown Funk to the be the awful song? Haha.


Lol. I do not really enjoy either, but at least Lifestyle isn't severely overplayed on commercials and the like. I did only mention those as they both provide great examples of what I am looking for: a hard-hitting moving bass-line found in Lifestyle and a very low bass hit like in the remix of Uptown Funk.
DJ GaFFle 9:05 PM - 25 November, 2015
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Okay Gaffle, so whats your take on the York vs the SRX828? I am looking for the best bang for your buck all in one solution. I play mainly school dances and parties from 30-250 people. The music is mainly top 40 pop stuff with some bass heavy hip hop and EDM. For tops, I use 2 Yamaha DBR15s. I am wanting whatever sub that I choose to be able to fit in my pickup, provide enough bass on its own to be sufficient for my gigs, and not sound bad. I know the York doesnt go super low, but how much does that matter in real life? For example, in the song Lifestyle there are the 'moving' bass hits the hit pretty hard. Would either sub be able to hit all of these notes? Same with the Instant Party remix of Uptown Funk. Awful song I know, but curious as it has a super deep bass fill that has made me wonder which subs can and can not hit it. Thanks for the help

Man... tough decision. The LS801P is just a legendary workhorse. I don't hear bad things about their build quality, failures, etc. I've only experienced their monotonous sound over an extended period of time but put that EQ/pEQ adjustment at 70-80Hz and that will smoothen the sound out. I do hear negative stories of their weight and moving them around from single-man ops.

As far as the SRX828, it's about 8 lbs heavier than the York, takes up more space and has no castors. It's newer, goes lower by a whopping 10Hz and has a negligible 1dB louder max SPL. It's newer and most likely more musical than the LS801P. I'd like to see a head-to-head response graph on both of them.

Like Select mentions, I'd wager the LS801P has a perceived longer throw based on its horn design. If it were me and transporting was not an issue, I'd probably go SRX828 with future plans on getting the SRX815P or 835P tops down the line. That would be a complete and brand-matched solution.
pdidy 9:19 PM - 25 November, 2015
Scully DJ Services, have you ever played a quality top speaker and we're listening to a song and heard instruments and sounds in the music that you never heard before but you hearing them now because of the new quality top that you're listening to ?

Well that's what its like when you compare a yorkville ls801p to a jbl SRX828SP SUB. The jBL will play octaves and lower notes that you've never heard before on the yorkville because the Yorkville could not produce those low notes. And it's at these times in the music that the JBL will be MUCH louder than the Yorkville......

Now here is a weird reality, I use to Yorkville quite often at many of the clubs to play at here in New York City because they are very common and I realized that I like the way they sound and I don't miss the fact that they're not playing Low. But as soon as I use my JBL subs it's like BOOOM....... and I snap back to a BASS SNOB and think.......How the hell did I miss all of these new sounds and low notes that I'm now hearing and not really notice ? Weird but true.....
pdidy 9:22 PM - 25 November, 2015
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I agree on all points.
Scully DJ Services 10:44 PM - 25 November, 2015
Thanks for all of this info! For transportation, I have a Ford F150 and due to the SRX only having of a height of 22ish inches compared to the York's 23ish which is too tall for the bed cover, I think the SRX would be easier to transport. Also, due to the SRX's very long shape, to put it in the bed I can stand it up and tilt it into the truck bed then use the edge of the bed as a lever to push it in if that makes any sense. Furthemore, I can get nice locking casters for it for less than $7 a piece from Harbor Freight.
My only concern is throw and volume. Will one of these equal out to or be louder than 2 EV ETX18SPs? Also, would one of these fare well in outdoor environments? Lastly, how well will it play with my 2 Yamaha DBR15s?
DJZed 11:10 PM - 25 November, 2015
ETX18sp > SRX818sp in terms of output, but it's not night and day from what I hear. I think the functionality of AA compatibility is worth the slight loss in output. (Plus 818sp is 20 pounds lighter, so my back isn't complaining).
Um, I have the SRX818sp and DXR15s--I assume phasing is similar, if not nearly the same between the DBRs and the DXRs. My SRX818sp is kind of hormonal in terms of pairing well with the DXRs. There might be a phase issue, maybe room placement, I don't know at this point. I plan on going into AA once and for all this Friday to try and find the source of my problems.
An SRX818sp can keep up with a DXR15 up to limit. An SRX828sp will be more than adequate for your DBRs, although you might want to check out the DXS18 before pulling the trigger. (The height for the DXS18 is 27", but you could lay it on its side (22") to fit in your truck.)
Scully DJ Services 11:17 PM - 25 November, 2015
Thanks for the info! So based on what you have experienced, will an 828 be very close to 2 ETX18s?
Elite Sound & Lighting 12:19 AM - 26 November, 2015
Scully,
I got a chance to do what your asking. I played my 4 ETX18 with 2 SRX828 and the output was the same. One setup wasn't louder than the other. They both sounded great and had plenty of punch.
Joee 12:35 AM - 26 November, 2015
scully looking for the BASS!…….lol


RCF…….j/k, so do you plan on upgrading those dbr's when you get those subs?


don't sleep on the yamaha dxs18/dxr/dsr


but i think those 828's are a better option if you can deal with the size/weight …..they seem like a great buy for the price
Scully DJ Services 2:13 AM - 26 November, 2015
Thanks for all the help guys! No, I am not planning on upgrading tops. And yes, I do want BASS. RCF stuff looks nice, but not practical enough for me for the price. Also not interested in the DXS18 because it doesn't offer enough bang for my buck. I think I'm sold on the SRX828 as of now. Will keep y'all posted on any changes.
DJZed 5:31 AM - 26 November, 2015
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Thanks for all the help guys! No, I am not planning on upgrading tops. And yes, I do want BASS. RCF stuff looks nice, but not practical enough for me for the price. Also not interested in the DXS18 because it doesn't offer enough bang for my buck. I think I'm sold on the SRX828 as of now. Will keep y'all posted on any changes.


I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the DXS18. From the reviews, I'm a bit worried that I didn't buy the right subwoofer--waiting for my local GC to get them in stock so I can check them out. It might also be worth the matching tops and bottoms since they're designed to be optimized together.
DJ GaFFle 2:34 PM - 26 November, 2015
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Scully DJ Services 2:53 PM - 26 November, 2015
Alright, thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye on it. Also, happy Thanksgiving guys!
Joee 2:53 PM - 26 November, 2015
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blasphemy!

if you do get two srx828's get the matching tops
Scully DJ Services 2:55 PM - 26 November, 2015
@Joee, if I go the SRX route, I will be purchasing ONE of them. $1500 is alot of money for me
Joee 2:57 PM - 26 November, 2015
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but a great price considering what you are getting……sell those dbr's & get a pair of srx 12" or 15"
desmorider 3:15 AM - 30 November, 2015
Good deal if someone in illinois is looking for an srx828sp

$1399

www.guitarcenter.com
SELECT 4:04 PM - 2 December, 2015
Those of you with the new SRX speakers, do you setup the input level like the manual states or you just plug in and play? That is something I got used to doing when I setup my old passive setup with the DBX box.

Check this out, not sure of why he made two videos of basically the same thing-
JBL SRX 815P VS YORKVILLE PS15P
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SG SOUNDS 2:59 PM - 24 December, 2015
got a deal for 2 srx828sp waiting for me on the table for $3300 ...very temping been scrathing my ass all day yesterday on what to do...think i might pull the trigger seeing to many good reviews on these subs..stay tuned
Asu 5:25 PM - 25 December, 2015
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dude you're thinking about saving $700?? lol

Just do it already,subs are sick
SG SOUNDS 5:28 PM - 25 December, 2015
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dude you're thinking about saving $700?? lol

Just do it already,subs are sick


i did should be getting them next week...curious to see how they sound with my 2 etx 35p
Joee 5:35 PM - 25 December, 2015
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i did should be getting them next week...curious to see how they sound with my 2 etx 35p

can't wait to hear about how the sound compared to the ls801
Asu 5:49 PM - 25 December, 2015
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i did should be getting them next week...curious to see how they sound with my 2 etx 35p


should be a perfect setup
SG SOUNDS 6:07 PM - 25 December, 2015
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should be a perfect setup


do you own the srx828p?
SG SOUNDS 7:59 PM - 25 December, 2015
for anybody that already own the srx speakers can i use a driverack pa2 with the srx? i know its got its own dsp functions but i like the simplicity of the driverack...ive been reading many threads regarding about the jbl software for the srx speakers and how by using it is the only way to get out the maximum performance out of the srx speakers is this true?
Sants 8:36 PM - 25 December, 2015
I would not use a driverack with these. No need IMO. The factory settings are adequate and easy to access. It's also very easy to connect to architect and tune however you need.

There was a long thread on the srx on prosoundweb and using the driverack was highly discouraged. When there is good internal DSP available most will advise against using something external.

I own the 835 and 828's and have experience with them
SG SOUNDS 9:27 PM - 25 December, 2015
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There was a long thread on the srx on prosoundweb and using the driverack was highly discouraged. When there is good internal DSP available most will advise against using something external.

I own the 835 and 828's and have experience with them


yh i was reading that thread on prosoundweb about the srx boxes and this guy was claiming the srx factory settings dont allow you to turn up the srx boxes to full rated capacity because of the limiters...he claims by going into the architect settings you can unlock those limiters and really get the rated db output for these boxes...i hope the srx 828 bump loud enough so i dont have to mess with all that stuff..i will be using 2 srx 828.....how loud do your set up get to? loud enough for 250-300 people? or less?
Sants 9:42 PM - 25 December, 2015
I mainly do live sound and have plenty for my gigs. I would say you'll be fine for 250-300 people however the venue may be the main factor. I want to eventually have 4 and 4 of each.

The limit indicator comes on a -10db but limiting is not yet happening. More of indicator. The guys talk about using make up gain with the compressor to boost volume and this does work well.

The thing I've found most important with these is gain staging. These seem more particular than other brands and cheaper speakers.
SG SOUNDS 9:52 PM - 25 December, 2015
ok but will they get loud enough without going through all that? using make up gain with the compressor to boost volume is that safe for the speakers and even recommend by jbl? are you using 2 srx828's or 1 with your srx815? mines will be used for dj gigs only
Sants 10:30 PM - 25 December, 2015
I run mine normal and just run the gain knob at +3 and mains at 0. I run two 828's and two 835's. I get plenty of volume and output for my needs. Jam, reggae, folk rock type acts.
SG SOUNDS 10:41 PM - 25 December, 2015
ok gotha...do you think 1 srx835 can run 4 of the subs each side or 2 will be max per side?
Sants 10:46 PM - 25 December, 2015
1 835 per 828 is a solid match
DJ GaFFle 7:46 PM - 26 December, 2015
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i did should be getting them next week...curious to see how they sound with my 2 etx 35p

can't wait to hear about how the sound compared to the ls801

These graphs should tell you:

s3.amazonaws.com
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Those graphs have the BassBoss SSP118, SRX828, SRX818 and LS801P in them for comparison.
SG SOUNDS 8:33 PM - 26 December, 2015
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i did should be getting them next week...curious to see how they sound with my 2 etx 35p

can't wait to hear about how the sound compared to the ls801

These graphs should tell you:

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Those graphs have the BassBoss SSP118, SRX828, SRX818 and LS801P in them for comparison.


gaffle i dropped out of elementary school can you please tell me what this graph is indicating about the srx828p compared to the others please
Asu 1:18 AM - 27 December, 2015
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gaffle i dropped out of elementary school can you please tell me what this graph is indicating about the srx828p compared to the others please


it's a comparison of output+freq where each sub excels or doesn't, your JBL subs are pretty decent...look at the KW181 that we all love and compare to the JBL SRX818SP on the first chart....you can see the QSC shines within a narrow freq range...so the New JBL SRX's are much better subs.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:43 AM - 27 December, 2015
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gaffle i dropped out of elementary school can you please tell me what this graph is indicating about the srx828p compared to the others please


it's a comparison of output+freq where each sub excels or doesn't, your JBL subs are pretty decent...look at the KW181 that we all love and compare to the JBL SRX818SP on the first chart....you can see the QSC shines within a narrow freq range...so the New JBL SRX's are much better subs.


In all fairness the QSC is pretty old in comparison. And JBL have had a couple of subs come out since the QSC has been on the market.
DJ GaFFle 3:40 AM - 27 December, 2015
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i did should be getting them next week...curious to see how they sound with my 2 etx 35p

can't wait to hear about how the sound compared to the ls801

These graphs should tell you:

s3.amazonaws.com
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Those graphs have the BassBoss SSP118, SRX828, SRX818 and LS801P in them for comparison.


gaffle i dropped out of elementary school can you please tell me what this graph is indicating about the srx828p compared to the others please

To sum it up, in comparison to the BassBoss SSP118, the SRX818P falls noticeably short from 55Hz on down and very even from 60Hz - 90Hz.

The dual SRX828, in comparison to the BassBoss SSP118, basically beats it everywhere (not by a lot) and more noticeably from 55Hz - 100Hz.

Here's the breakdown of the JBL SRX's in the tester's words:

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In frequency response terms, the JBL SRX828 performs almost identically to two SRX818, meaning it gives you the same frequency response with 6dB more output. The JBL SRX828 offers maximum continuous output of 134dB at 67Hz. That means peak output can be calculated to 140dB.

The BASSBOSS SSP118 is competitive with the SRX828, offering almost equivalent output between 35 and 50Hz. The SRX828 offers more output above 50Hz and a bit more below 40Hz. This is to be expected from a double driver sub. The design is essentially two SRX818 boxes joined at the port side. The SRX828 will deliver a bit more very low bass at maximum output because it helps to have another 18" cone to displace that air.

At maximum level, the JBL offers 3dB more output at 30Hz, 2dB more output at 35Hz, 0.8dB more output at 40Hz, 0.3dB more output at 45Hz and 0.7dB more output at 50Hz. Above 50Hz the two lines diverge, with the JBL continuing higher and the SSP118 going lower. At 55Hz the JBL double-18 shows a 3dB advantage, at 60Hz it shows a 4.2dB advantage, at 65Hz it shows a 5.7dB advantage, which it holds through 90Hz.

The SSP118 was designed to be a subwoofer, to deliver as much deep bass as possible from a relatively small, portable enclosure. The fact that is does an excellent job at this is evident in the fact that between 40 and 50Hz, it runs neck-and-neck with either a double 18" subwoofer, or two single 18"s. In either case, the JBL's are twice its size. The SSP118 offers better low bass performance than all competitors' similarly sized single 18" subs that we've so far tested, and better than some that are much larger, including the Yorkville 21". The JBL SRX828 double-18 is the first box tested to offer more low frequency output than the single-18" SSP118.

An important thing to consider that is demonstrated in the response graph is the sound "character". It's true that you can't hear a loudspeaker by looking at a response graph but you can get an indication of its character. These graphs can tell you a lot about what to expect in terms of "sound quality". You can determine where the energy is focused, what it does best and the overall balance across its spectrum. This does give you a good indication of what it's going to sound like. The words people use to describe these things vary but a high resolution frequency response measurement graph will tell you a lot about the "character" of a loudspeaker. Is the energy focused at the bottom end of the spectrum, in the middle, or at the top? What does it give up and where does it peak when you turn it up to the limit?

Under normal operating conditions, the SSP118's energy is focused between 35 and 55Hz. What it gives up when it enters compression is some of the energy between 25 and 45Hz. When pushed to the limit, it peaks at 50Hz.

The JBL SRX828's energy is focused between 47 and 83Hz. It gives up energy between 30 and 50Hz when it enters compression. When pushed to the limit, it peaks at 67Hz.

At maximum output above 50Hz, the SSP118's output decreases where the SRX828's output increases. This gets into the area of design choices and philosophy. Both at maximum and below maximum, the SSP118's output decreases above 50Hz. This is a deliberate choice intended to give the SSP118 a full, rich tone, to make it sound big and deep. To give it a big and deep character, it could not be designed to also go as loud in the upper end of its range. This is necessary to allow the SSP118 to get as loud as possible as low as possible and, when it's turned up to the limit, to prevent it from changing character and sounding different. Thus, at any level the SSP118 has a "deeper voice" than either of the SRX boxes.

In comparison to the SRX818, the SSP118 is deeper and louder. The SRX828 has a louder voice, but if you wanted to give the SRX828 a deeper voice, to match the tonality and balance of the SSP118, you would have to give up on much of the area where it is louder. So, if you like your bass deeper, the SSP118 will do very nearly everything the SRX828 will do from a box that's half the size. That said, the SRX828 is a good product for the price. Next we'll be testing it against our double 18" subs, and we'll post that as soon as we have the testing done.

BASSBOSS SSP118: 130dB continuous. 136dB peak. Peak output frequency: 50Hz
JBL SRX828SP: 134dB continuous, 140dB peak. Peak output frequency: 67Hz

On the subject of limits, if you do tend to run your system buried in the limiters and every bit of output is necessary, it might be tempting to consider the higher output SRX828. On the other hand, the BASSBOSS warranty covers your boxes for 6 years, your amps for 3 years AND covers you against blown voice coils for 2 years. The JBL warranty covers the boxes for only 2 years, the amps for 3 years and if you blow the drivers you aren't covered at all.

Thanks for your questions, I'm enjoying testing these subs!

best
David Lee


Although it would be pricier, a pair of BassBoss SSP118's vs. a JBL SRX828 would easily favor the BassBoss' (the graph would go +6dB at every point for the SSP)

For you SRX 818SP and especially SRX 828SP stans, fans and owners... you've still got a good sub.
Asu 9:47 AM - 27 December, 2015
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yup...and you get to keep $2000 in your pocket per sub vs the $4000 BASSBOSS SSP118 sub...not a bad deal at all.
DJ GaFFle 11:44 AM - 27 December, 2015
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yup...and you get to keep $2000 in your pocket per sub vs the $4000 BASSBOSS SSP118 sub...not a bad deal at all.

Naw... the SSP118 are $2695 each.

They're Made in USA, have top-notch B&C drivers in them (same as my Danleys) and high-powered/reliable Speakerpower amp plates too.
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i did should be getting them next week...curious to see how they sound with my 2 etx 35p

can't wait to hear about how the sound compared to the ls801

These graphs should tell you:

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Those graphs have the BassBoss SSP118, SRX828, SRX818 and LS801P in them for comparison.


gaffle i dropped out of elementary school can you please tell me what this graph is indicating about the srx828p compared to the others please

To sum it up, in comparison to the BassBoss SSP118, the SRX818P falls noticeably short from 55Hz on down and very even from 60Hz - 90Hz.

The dual SRX828, in comparison to the BassBoss SSP118, basically beats it everywhere (not by a lot) and more noticeably from 55Hz - 100Hz.

Here's the breakdown of the JBL SRX's in the tester's words:

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In frequency response terms, the JBL SRX828 performs almost identically to two SRX818, meaning it gives you the same frequency response with 6dB more output. The JBL SRX828 offers maximum continuous output of 134dB at 67Hz. That means peak output can be calculated to 140dB.

The BASSBOSS SSP118 is competitive with the SRX828, offering almost equivalent output between 35 and 50Hz. The SRX828 offers more output above 50Hz and a bit more below 40Hz. This is to be expected from a double driver sub. The design is essentially two SRX818 boxes joined at the port side. The SRX828 will deliver a bit more very low bass at maximum output because it helps to have another 18" cone to displace that air.

At maximum level, the JBL offers 3dB more output at 30Hz, 2dB more output at 35Hz, 0.8dB more output at 40Hz, 0.3dB more output at 45Hz and 0.7dB more output at 50Hz. Above 50Hz the two lines diverge, with the JBL continuing higher and the SSP118 going lower. At 55Hz the JBL double-18 shows a 3dB advantage, at 60Hz it shows a 4.2dB advantage, at 65Hz it shows a 5.7dB advantage, which it holds through 90Hz.

The SSP118 was designed to be a subwoofer, to deliver as much deep bass as possible from a relatively small, portable enclosure. The fact that is does an excellent job at this is evident in the fact that between 40 and 50Hz, it runs neck-and-neck with either a double 18" subwoofer, or two single 18"s. In either case, the JBL's are twice its size. The SSP118 offers better low bass performance than all competitors' similarly sized single 18" subs that we've so far tested, and better than some that are much larger, including the Yorkville 21". The JBL SRX828 double-18 is the first box tested to offer more low frequency output than the single-18" SSP118.

An important thing to consider that is demonstrated in the response graph is the sound "character". It's true that you can't hear a loudspeaker by looking at a response graph but you can get an indication of its character. These graphs can tell you a lot about what to expect in terms of "sound quality". You can determine where the energy is focused, what it does best and the overall balance across its spectrum. This does give you a good indication of what it's going to sound like. The words people use to describe these things vary but a high resolution frequency response measurement graph will tell you a lot about the "character" of a loudspeaker. Is the energy focused at the bottom end of the spectrum, in the middle, or at the top? What does it give up and where does it peak when you turn it up to the limit?

Under normal operating conditions, the SSP118's energy is focused between 35 and 55Hz. What it gives up when it enters compression is some of the energy between 25 and 45Hz. When pushed to the limit, it peaks at 50Hz.

The JBL SRX828's energy is focused between 47 and 83Hz. It gives up energy between 30 and 50Hz when it enters compression. When pushed to the limit, it peaks at 67Hz.

At maximum output above 50Hz, the SSP118's output decreases where the SRX828's output increases. This gets into the area of design choices and philosophy. Both at maximum and below maximum, the SSP118's output decreases above 50Hz. This is a deliberate choice intended to give the SSP118 a full, rich tone, to make it sound big and deep. To give it a big and deep character, it could not be designed to also go as loud in the upper end of its range. This is necessary to allow the SSP118 to get as loud as possible as low as possible and, when it's turned up to the limit, to prevent it from changing character and sounding different. Thus, at any level the SSP118 has a "deeper voice" than either of the SRX boxes.

In comparison to the SRX818, the SSP118 is deeper and louder. The SRX828 has a louder voice, but if you wanted to give the SRX828 a deeper voice, to match the tonality and balance of the SSP118, you would have to give up on much of the area where it is louder. So, if you like your bass deeper, the SSP118 will do very nearly everything the SRX828 will do from a box that's half the size. That said, the SRX828 is a good product for the price. Next we'll be testing it against our double 18" subs, and we'll post that as soon as we have the testing done.

BASSBOSS SSP118: 130dB continuous. 136dB peak. Peak output frequency: 50Hz
JBL SRX828SP: 134dB continuous, 140dB peak. Peak output frequency: 67Hz

On the subject of limits, if you do tend to run your system buried in the limiters and every bit of output is necessary, it might be tempting to consider the higher output SRX828. On the other hand, the BASSBOSS warranty covers your boxes for 6 years, your amps for 3 years AND covers you against blown voice coils for 2 years. The JBL warranty covers the boxes for only 2 years, the amps for 3 years and if you blow the drivers you aren't covered at all.

Thanks for your questions, I'm enjoying testing these subs!

best
David Lee


Although it would be pricier, a pair of BassBoss SSP118's vs. a JBL SRX828 would easily favor the BassBoss' (the graph would go +6dB at every point for the SSP)

For you SRX 818SP and especially SRX 828SP stans, fans and owners... you've still got a good sub.


very interesting...thanks for the post gaffle...cant wait to show off these subs..
Asu 1:58 PM - 27 December, 2015
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Naw... the SSP118 are $2695 each.

They're Made in USA, have top-notch B&C drivers in them (same as my Danleys) and high-powered/reliable Speakerpower amp plates too.


The Amp is pretty interesting on that SSP sub "2400-Watt true RMS power" they say...this is why i wondered how the SRX can have just 2000W Max? how reliable is that? you'd think the JBL would need 1800-2000 Watts RMS at least...maybe newer drivers are more efficient?
DJ GaFFle 4:28 PM - 27 December, 2015
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Naw... the SSP118 are $2695 each.

They're Made in USA, have top-notch B&C drivers in them (same as my Danleys) and high-powered/reliable Speakerpower amp plates too.


The Amp is pretty interesting on that SSP sub "2400-Watt true RMS power" they say...this is why i wondered how the SRX can have just 2000W Max? how reliable is that? you'd think the JBL would need 1800-2000 Watts RMS at least...maybe newer drivers are more efficient?


I'm guessing to your point... their latest drivers are just more efficient. I'm not sure what type of voodoo they do with their amps and how JBL rates their power.

I do know is Speakerpower amps have a reputation for very solid and most importantly, sustained throughput capabilities.

Danley Sound Labs actually rebadges Speakerpower amps for their high-power solutions:
www.danleysoundlabs.com
www.speakerpower.net

Those amps look very basic but I guess the proof is in the pudding.
Asu 10:47 PM - 27 December, 2015
All Good points
Rebelguy 11:08 PM - 27 December, 2015
I'm curious about a Bassboss SSP118 vs RCF8004 test. Any thoughts?
desmorider 12:32 AM - 28 December, 2015
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That was a test I asked David to conduct, and he couldn't find a 8004 near him to borrow, rent, or purchase to conduct the test. He did however do an overlay of rcf published graphs and testings that he has done on the ssp118. The ssp118 was quite a bit louder down low in the freq range, and the 8004 peaked slightly louder at 65hz. From looking at the overlay the ssp118 has a lot more stomp down low. It also has almost double the rms power of the 8004. He seems to offer outstanding customer service. I asked him how the ssp118 would compare to a JBL srx828sp, and he ordered the 818sp and 828sp so that he could test him. He seems to be a real straight shooter, and would tell it as it is if a single 18 that he test would outrun his ssp118. He did state that the 828sp is a good box.
DJZed 3:11 AM - 2 January, 2016
So the SRX818 and DXR15 combo isn't flying with me--I have a couple questions--does anyone know if there's a way to create a HPF for the sub through (output) channels?
Secondly, I very much shot myself in the foot by mixing tops and subs, especially when the sub parameters aren't readily accessible *cough* (at all). So I'm thinking about changing that, however, I'm not sure if I should sell the sub and get a DXS18 (I'd probably break even just replacing the SRX with a DXS18) or sell the tops and replace them with SRX812ps (-$800). Any suggestions?
desmorider 4:10 AM - 2 January, 2016
Why is your combo not working out?
DJZed 4:30 AM - 2 January, 2016
There's no readily-available HPF for the output, and all crossover combos (SRX LPF and DXR HPF) work to either have overlap (cancellation/peaks) or large drops in output. There seems to be some phasing issues too--I've tried measuring it but the SRX feels really late compared to the DXR. I really don't want to bring in external processing (even though I probably definitely should), but at this point I just want a sub that makes my tops sound better, rather than worse.
Joee 12:34 PM - 2 January, 2016
why not just get a driverack?
DJZed 3:28 PM - 2 January, 2016
I tried a PA2--couldn't fix the timing issues. It's also an extra thing to lug around and a pain to setup (I like plug n play :/ ) so I didn't think it was worth it for me. Great functionality though.
pdidy 3:39 PM - 2 January, 2016
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What time issue ?
DJZed 3:44 PM - 2 January, 2016
As I said before earlier in the thread, there are some timing/phasing issues when combining the DXR and SRX. I tried inverting the polarity and using the delay on the PA2 (both separately and together) and nothing worked, it still sounded off. I did some mic tests to analyze the actual response but I couldn't pin the problem down from the response.
Joee 5:10 PM - 2 January, 2016
doesn't the new srx powered line give you total control over setup options with the new built in software?

www.jblpro.com
DJZed 5:18 PM - 2 January, 2016
SRX connect only offers so much control. I've been using AudioArchitect to try and fix things but it's not a great solution. JBL initially offers just a delay, compressor, EQ, and signal generator for AudioArchitect (and I think that's about all the SRX connect can access)--there are other parameters you can change in AudioArchitect, but it's a whole list that houses way too many poorly named parameters to wrap one's head around. I think the SRX was a great concept, but it's disappointing that there's no way to change any parameters on-board--you have to use an external device.
Rebelguy 5:26 PM - 2 January, 2016
Maybe you should post over at www.prosoundweb.com They might have some better insight as to what the problem is and also members with the same equipment you are trying to set up.

A bit of advice...make sure you post with your real name and also start your topic in the "Lab Lounge" area.
DJ GaFFle 9:42 PM - 2 January, 2016
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Maybe you should post over at www.prosoundweb.com They might have some better insight as to what the problem is and also members with the same equipment you are trying to set up.

A bit of advice...make sure you post with your real name and also start your topic in the "Lab Lounge" area.

... and don't let'em know you're a DJ if you want immediate help.

:-p
pdidy 10:44 PM - 2 January, 2016
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and don't let'em know you're a DJ

Yeah they pretty much hate DJs over there....lol
desmorider 10:55 PM - 2 January, 2016
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Yeah they pretty much hate DJs over there....lol



Lots of knowledge over there, however they do think thst dj's are ass-clowns. Pretty much a general feeling across the board from the pro sound folks.
DJ GaFFle 1:46 AM - 3 January, 2016
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Yeah they pretty much hate DJs over there....lol



Lots of knowledge over there, however they do think thst dj's are ass-clowns. Pretty much a general feeling across the board from the pro sound folks.

That's why this board and the guys in it are pretty good at somewhat educating "us" on DJ do's and don'ts. From not investing in garbage gear, to good presentation, to keeping your levels out of the red.
desmorider 2:33 AM - 3 January, 2016
Folks on this board have a bunch of knowledge also. No reason for a new dj to make bad purchases, and moves, as long as they ask questions, and tap great resources like this board. Lots of good peeps here.
Asu 9:10 PM - 3 January, 2016
using a 15 top will always have issues,the DXS won't fix that...keep your 18 sub and just buy some 12" Tops, DXRs if you want something affordable but good and reliable with that 7-year warranty.

I always get good results with whatever sub I use but my tops are usually 12's for tighter control....the JBL SRX sub should be better/louder than the DXS sub.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:30 AM - 4 January, 2016
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using a 15 top will always have issues,the DXS won't fix that...keep your 18 sub and just buy some 12" Tops, DXRs if you want something affordable but good and reliable with that 7-year warranty.

I always get good results with whatever sub I use but my tops are usually 12's for tighter control....the JBL SRX sub should be better/louder than the DXS sub.


Why would you always have issues with 15 tops?
pdidy 2:31 AM - 4 January, 2016
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As I said before earlier in the thread, there are some timing/phasing issues when combining the DXR and SRX.

I sounds to me like the SRX is simply malfunctioning which is causing the Delay in the internal DSP. Assuming you've already attempted to RESET the SRX many times by now, Im curious as to why you have not exchanged it yet or has it serviced by jbl to identify the issue ?
Asu 3:20 PM - 5 January, 2016
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Mids are tighter on a 12 speaker than a 15" anyone here will tell you the same.

if using subs...use 12 tops...use the 15's for gigs where no subs are needed...at least that's what i do and have great results
pdidy 8:13 PM - 5 January, 2016
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Mids are tighter on a 12 speaker than a 15"...if using subs...use 12 tops...use the 15's for gigs where no subs are needed

all true, so I'm guessing it just came out wrong the first time....lol
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:16 AM - 6 January, 2016
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Mids are tighter on a 12 speaker than a 15" anyone here will tell you the same.

if using subs...use 12 tops...use the 15's for gigs where no subs are needed...at least that's what i do and have great results


While that is true...it's not problem. Just a preference in sound.
Asu 7:02 PM - 6 January, 2016
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While that is true...it's not problem. Just a preference in sound.


It's not a preference...it's a sonic fact lol
SELECT 9:56 AM - 7 January, 2016
I dunno man, it depends on the speaker and crossover points.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 7:21 PM - 8 January, 2016
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While that is true...it's not problem. Just a preference in sound.


It's not a preference...it's a sonic fact lol


You still have not provided any information on why it is a problem.

I'll wait.
Typhon 9:39 PM - 27 January, 2016
I'm expecting delivery on a srx828sp today. I bought it last week on eBay used for $1300 shipped. I will post pictures and let you know how I feel about it
Asu 9:54 PM - 27 January, 2016
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I'm expecting delivery on a srx828sp today. I bought it last week on eBay used for $1300 shipped. I will post pictures and let you know how I feel about it


Damn that's a great deal...for that price i'd buy one for those special occasions....you'll be happy...the performance charts look really good for these SRX boxes
Typhon 10:09 PM - 27 January, 2016
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I'm expecting delivery on a srx828sp today. I bought it last week on eBay used for $1300 shipped. I will post pictures and let you know how I feel about it


Damn that's a great deal...for that price i'd buy one for those special occasions....you'll be happy...the performance charts look really good for these SRX boxes


I had the prx618s xlf and I was trying to get another one but couldn't find any so I got rid of it for the srx.
Asu 10:17 PM - 27 January, 2016
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I'm expecting delivery on a srx828sp today. I bought it last week on eBay used for $1300 shipped. I will post pictures and let you know how I feel about it


Damn that's a great deal...for that price i'd buy one for those special occasions....you'll be happy...the performance charts look really good for these SRX boxes


I had the prx618s xlf and I was trying to get another one but couldn't find any so I got rid of it for the srx.


That's a nice upgrade for the price of one 18" :-)
Typhon 3:09 PM - 9 February, 2016
So I received the used srx828sp from eBay and it seems like UPS dropped it on the edge. anyway, I hooked it up and noticed the left speaker not working. I thought the speaker was damaged so I took the grill off to inspected it, both speakers looked fine so I took it both out and hooked up the left speaker to the right wire and it worked fine. Now I'm thinking it's the amp. I called JBL and explained the problem and they told me to take to a service center. I then called the service center and give them my information and they said there is nothing they can do about the new srx800 series because JBL have a safe launch service. I called JBL again to asked what is the safe launch service and they said to take to the service center and they will figure out the next step.
pdidy 7:38 PM - 9 February, 2016
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So I received the used srx828sp from eBay and it seems like UPS dropped it on the edge. anyway, I hooked it up and noticed the left speaker not working. I thought the speaker was damaged so I took the grill off to inspected it, both speakers looked fine so I took it both out and hooked up the left speaker to the right wire and it worked fine. Now I'm thinking it's the amp. I called JBL and explained the problem and they told me to take to a service center. I then called the service center and give them my information and they said there is nothing they can do about the new srx800 series because JBL have a safe launch service. I called JBL again to asked what is the safe launch service and they said to take to the service center and they will figure out the next step.

Seller probably sold it to you damaged and they're trying to fuck you, just send back. Never except damaged gear.
Typhon 8:02 PM - 9 February, 2016
I tried to send it back but I'd have to pay shipping which is around $400. I filed a claim with UPS and PayPal which were both denied so I figured I'll use the manufacture's warrant. Hopefully they will replace the sub with the safe launch services
pdidy 8:35 PM - 9 February, 2016
What is safe launch services ?
Typhon 9:45 PM - 9 February, 2016
I believe it a kind of insurance or warrant JBL offer with the srx and ion series
Asu 7:46 PM - 11 February, 2016
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you should have used eBay services...you're protected up to a $2500 investment...I've returned a $800 item that didn't work right, out of the box...I don't think PayPal handles that.should be the service that allowed the seller to list the item
Asu 7:48 PM - 11 February, 2016
Like pdidy said,previous owner must have sold it to you knowingly...this is why i buy New and make payments if i have to.
Rebelguy 8:14 PM - 11 February, 2016
If it arrived and the box was damaged you should have rejected the delivery and let Paypal know. They would have gotten your money back as soon as the item was returned to the seller.

i'm surprised Paypal rejected your claim. They are usually on the side of the buyer.
pdidy 8:54 PM - 11 February, 2016
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i'm surprised Paypal rejected your claim. They are usually on the side of the buyer.

Yeah I found that a bit unusual myself but this is the Internet so we never know if we're getting the full story.
Typhon 11:51 PM - 11 February, 2016
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If it arrived and the box was damaged you should have rejected the delivery and let Paypal know. They would have gotten your money back as soon as the item was returned to the seller.

i'm surprised Paypal rejected your claim. They are usually on the side of the buyer.


It wasn't packaged properly. It was shipped in home depot cardboard boxes with bubble wraps and shrink wraps and it didn't look damage until it. I took pictures of the complete package and the damages after I open it.

I used two method of payment and apparently PayPal policy doesn't cover that. The speaker is at the service center. If I have to pay to get if fix, I will contact eBay and try to return it
Typhon 12:28 AM - 18 February, 2016
Update..

JBL replaced the sub with no questions asked. I've owned and heard a lot of subwoofers but I think this is it for me. I'll probably get another one. BTW, I'm not a DJ, I'm a bass head and this sub delivers
Certified Quality Entertainment 2:17 PM - 18 February, 2016
awesome!
Joee 2:22 PM - 18 February, 2016
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JBL replaced the sub with no questions asked. I've owned and heard a lot of subwoofers but I think this is it for me. I'll probably get another one. BTW, I'm not a DJ, I'm a bass head and this sub delivers

cool, did you say you got it off ebay? did they sell it as is with no returns?


if so make sure you leave the most negative feedback posable & explain what happened so other buyers know about the seller , did you open up a case in the ebay resolution center? they are pretty good about getting situations resolved in my experience
Johnnynights 12:12 AM - 9 March, 2016
Have any of you with srx800 speakers found a good eq setting for them?

Im using the srx815p but lately i been running them how they come out of the box.

I have a few settings but im curious to see what some of you are using.
MVPDJs 9:35 PM - 13 March, 2016
Does anyone have an insane amount of white noise whenever you plug in these speakers? Whenever I plug in my JBL SRX 835s there is always a lot of white noise coming from them. At my private gigs the videography plugs into my yamaha mixer and talks about how the audio feed has some white noise in it. This is so annoying one of my friends who's well versed in sound says that the series produces a lot of white noise because of the cheap parts used. Can anyone attest to that?
pdidy 10:21 PM - 13 March, 2016
@MVPDJs, no ive never heard this allegation of white noise or cheap parts before with the SRX 835.
WHAT DO YOU have the gains set at on the JBL SRX 835 ?
pdidy 10:29 PM - 13 March, 2016
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when it appears that the white noise is created before the speaker which means the speaker is NOT the issue here. The issue sounds like bad gain structure in your signal chain before it gets to the speakers.
pdidy 10:55 PM - 13 March, 2016
Correct Pro Sound Gain Structure
Watchwww.youtube.com

The process is the same for powered speakers or power amps.

Try resetting the jbl speaker back to default settings to ensure gain is not being boosted past 0db or unity.
DTweed 11:51 PM - 13 March, 2016
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I tried to send it back but I'd have to pay shipping which is around $400. I filed a claim with UPS and PayPal which were both denied so I figured I'll use the manufacture's warranty. Hopefully they will replace the sub with the safe launch services


you should have used eBay services...you're protected up to a $2500 investment...I've returned a $800 item that didn't work right, out of the box...I don't think PayPal handles that.should be the service that allowed the seller to list the item


I bought a used NS7 off of ebay which was not working properly, Paypal refunded me back my money including shipping and I told the shipper if they wanted it back they would have to paypal me shipping. Do you know why ebay/paypal denied your claim that seems pretty strange. I think they almost always side with the buyer even if you're returning just for the hell of it
DJZed 6:53 AM - 19 March, 2016
So I checked out the 835ps today at Guitar Center- and I sure hope something was up with the setup. Fidelity was pretty good, I have the DXR15s, and I wasn't personally BLOWN away by the clarity of the SRX series in comparison--it was better, but only by a bit--not worth anywhere near twice the cost of the DXRs.
What I found baffling, though, was it still had the classic, nasily PRX sound signature. I'm sure the fact that it has a dedicated midrange horn didn't help, but it just sounded so harsh and honky in the lower mid-spectrum--when we turned it up (not even close to limiting), my ears were fatigued immediately and I asked the rep to turn it down.
Is that what it sounds like out of the box? Or did I just get a lemon of a demo?
Elite Sound & Lighting 12:08 AM - 21 March, 2016
Sounds like a crappy demo, I've had to return 2 before because something was wrong with them but I currently own 4 of the 835s and 4 of the 828sp and they sound great. I came from the EV ETX series and these blew those out of the water... I'm going to be a doing a demo real soon and will upload to youtube.
DJKayce 1:49 AM - 21 March, 2016
Hey guys I pulled the trigger on a pair of SRX15p. My question here is how do guys handle the limit lights. My mixer trim & master stays under yellow but occasionally, my limit lights comes and stays on. I know EV ETX LIMITS faster than this cos I use to own them but sold cos once u push them hard, the Vol goes down.
My Ls801p limit lights stays on but nothing to worry about cos they pound all nite.
So is this normal for these speakers? Or how do I get the max output without limit coming on?
I like the sounds that comes out from these bad boys tho am still A/Bing them with my EV ZXA5 & ZX3.

Anyone here heard the passive SRX815?
Asu 5:19 PM - 21 March, 2016
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i use the PRX715 too...max volume is best attained when you use the filter in your sub/s...they get pretty loud....if used without a sub...you gotta turn down the lows as you play louder...i never see the limit light on the PRX's esp with subs...but the RANE MKII also sends a very nice clean signal...unlike my SX....so it's a combination of various things.
Johnnynights 6:04 PM - 21 March, 2016
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Hey guys I pulled the trigger on a pair of SRX15p. My question here is how do guys handle the limit lights. My mixer trim & master stays under yellow but occasionally, my limit lights comes and stays on. I know EV ETX LIMITS faster than this cos I use to own them but sold cos once u push them hard, the Vol goes down.
My Ls801p limit lights stays on but nothing to worry about cos they pound all nite.
So is this normal for these speakers? Or how do I get the max output without limit coming on?
I like the sounds that comes out from these bad boys tho am still A/Bing them with my EV ZXA5 & ZX3.

Anyone here heard the passive SRX815?

What db on the speaker(master) you have them set at are you using controller or regular mixer?

Also theres an update when you download the audio architect software for the computer and you connect the speakers.

With that update they seemed to let the speakers handle more power without hitting the limit light,i noticed it.
Johnnynights 6:13 PM - 21 March, 2016
Another thing i want to point out when i was using my srx815p with the audio architect softwarte i was testing them where they limit and if you go on the back of the speaker it shows its limiting but it doesnt limit on the software pretty weird hope i can make some time and make a video to show.
DJKayce 6:18 PM - 21 March, 2016
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i use the PRX715 too...max volume is best attained when you use the filter in your sub/s...they get pretty loud....if used without a sub...you gotta turn down the lows as you play louder...i never see the limit light on the PRX's esp with subs...but the RANE MKII also sends a very nice clean signal...unlike my SX....so it's a combination of various things.


Over the weekend, I used SX with the SRX815P with QSC KW181. My trim and master stayed under yellow all nite and qsc sub did not blink at all but the SRX was blinking LIMIT most of the time. Had it on high pass 100hz. Master on tops are at 0.0 level.
DJKayce 6:23 PM - 21 March, 2016
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Another thing i want to point out when i was using my srx815p with the audio architect softwarte i was testing them where they limit and if you go on the back of the speaker it shows its limiting but it doesnt limit on the software pretty weird hope i can make some time and make a video to show.


Oh i was playing straight from the controller to the speakers. No tuning just the standard DSP setting on the speaker. The were very loud and clean to my liking. so I was worried about the limit lights. I have a yorkville sub LS801p that limits when it hitting harder which is fine so am wondering if its the same with this?
DJKayce 6:30 PM - 21 March, 2016
What db on the speaker(master) you have them set at are you using controller or regular mixer?

Master on speaker was at 0.0 I guess unity(-100 to +10).
Controller DDJ SX.

My table was behind the speakers so i can monitor the levels since it was my 1st time using them.

I never baby sit my LS801p, QSC KW181, ZXA5 & ZX3 cos they pound all nite without a sweat.
DJFree 6:37 PM - 21 March, 2016
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i use the PRX715 too...max volume is best attained when you use the filter in your sub/s...they get pretty loud....if used without a sub...you gotta turn down the lows as you play louder...i never see the limit light on the PRX's esp with subs...but the RANE MKII also sends a very nice clean signal...unlike my SX....so it's a combination of various things.


Over the weekend, I used SX with the SRX815P with QSC KW181. My trim and master stayed under yellow all nite and qsc sub did not blink at all but the SRX was blinking LIMIT most of the time. Had it on high pass 100hz. Master on tops are at 0.0 level.

The tops hit the limit but the subs didn't? Hmmm.....I use Prx 712's with SRX 818sp's.....limit light NEVER comes on the tops.....only the subs (120/100hz)...I run the tops at 10 o'clock....I know the SRX tops have more power than the PRX series....
DJFree 6:38 PM - 21 March, 2016
Also the hi pass feature is in the subs not the tops....and the KW181 doesn't have a crossover.....
DJKayce 6:55 PM - 21 March, 2016
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Also the hi pass feature is in the subs not the tops....and the KW181 doesn't have a crossover.....


Kw181 don't have a crossover so I used d one on tops. Dsp set at speaker with sub @ 100hz
DJZed 6:57 PM - 21 March, 2016
The SRX subs don't have a through-output crossover. That is really weird that the SRX top limit came on before the KW. Hell, the 818sp limits 6db before my DXR15 does with a 100Hz crossover.
DJFree 6:58 PM - 21 March, 2016
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Also the hi pass feature is in the subs not the tops....and the KW181 doesn't have a crossover.....


Kw181 don't have a crossover so I used d one on tops. Dsp set at speaker with sub @ 100hz

The SRX tops have a crossover?? I didn't know that.
DJFree 7:01 PM - 21 March, 2016
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The SRX subs don't have a through-output crossover. That is really weird that the SRX top limit came on before the KW. Hell, the 818sp limits 6db before my DXR15 does with a 100Hz crossover.

"through-output crossover"......can you explain.....
Johnnynights 7:04 PM - 21 March, 2016
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Another thing i want to point out when i was using my srx815p with the audio architect softwarte i was testing them where they limit and if you go on the back of the speaker it shows its limiting but it doesnt limit on the software pretty weird hope i can make some time and make a video to show.


Oh i was playing straight from the controller to the speakers. No tuning just the standard DSP setting on the speaker. The were very loud and clean to my liking. so I was worried about the limit lights. I have a yorkville sub LS801p that limits when it hitting harder which is fine so am wondering if its the same with this?

Same here i use controller ddj sx2 straight to speakers,i also use a yorkville ls801p lol.

Youll be fine hitting the limit once in a while =)
DJZed 7:07 PM - 21 March, 2016
The channel outputs (XLR out to top speaker.) From my understanding, the SRX subs splits the signal immediately, and sends an unprocessed and unfiltered signal to the channel outputs before the rest of the signal is processed for the subwoofer.
Johnnynights 7:13 PM - 21 March, 2016
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What db on the speaker(master) you have them set at are you using controller or regular mixer?

Master on speaker was at 0.0 I guess unity(-100 to +10).
Controller DDJ SX.

My table was behind the speakers so i can monitor the levels since it was my 1st time using them.

I never baby sit my LS801p, QSC KW181, ZXA5 & ZX3 cos they pound all nite without a sweat.

I have my speaker set on the master at +6, im using the ddj sx2 with this setting i run all green and the speakers wont limit.

Another setting i tried and most people go with is channel gains all the way to the last yellow and master at unity on the sx2 and 0.0db on the speaker.

I go with what sounds better and clearer.
Johnnynights 7:16 PM - 21 March, 2016
@DJKayce have you tried 120hz?
DJKayce 7:40 PM - 21 March, 2016
The SRX tops have a crossover?? I didn't know that.

The new srx815p has a preset for use with srx subs, use with another sub with hi pass at 80hz, 100hz and 120hz. then a customize presets almost 40 slots.

@DJKayce have you tried 120hz?
No, am use to 100hz for my tops.

I checked the speakers now, am finding out that the speakers has some rattling noise inside them. it sounds like some loose nuts. when u tilt the speaker, u can hear something rolling from one end to the other.
I just called the dealer and they promised to send some new ones once I send these back with their prepaid labels.
I guess this my be my problem here. but the speakers were still impressive.
DJZed 7:48 PM - 21 March, 2016
Loose nuts don't really explain why it was limiting early. It might explain why it didn't sound good though (if it didn't.) :P
DJKayce 8:00 PM - 21 March, 2016
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Loose nuts don't really explain why it was limiting early. It might explain why it didn't sound good though (if it didn't.) :P


Like I said, the speakers was on point but Limit was on most times and my gains on the controller was under yellow.

Just found out about the loose nuts inside of which I don't like so am returning the speakers for new ones.
Guess there's something going on inside plus I used them with QSC kw181 which was fine with no limit. WHICH shows that I was't pushing them that hard.
QSC KW181 --132db
SRX 815p -- 137db
DJZed 8:03 PM - 21 March, 2016
Was the 815 output fader approaching the edge when it said it was limiting?
DJKayce 8:09 PM - 21 March, 2016
Almost but not all the way.
Even when my line faders from the controller is a bit up. The speaker level is already at half.
DJZed 8:11 PM - 21 March, 2016
I will admit, I've had some times where there's a phantom output (the fader has a solid signal that can be affected using the gain, but there's no signal [I've had other bugs, too].) The DSP isn't perfect by any means.
DJKayce 8:12 PM - 21 March, 2016
I wish I can do a video to show this but am almost done with the packing of the speakers in its boxes.

Thanks guys.
Asu 9:54 PM - 23 March, 2016
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I know the SRX tops have more power than the PRX series....


For some reason,it doesn't look like it....1000W SRX vs 1500W PRX...different drivers of course but even the old PRX500 series don't limit all night...i was using a friends that's what got me into the PRX700's and i can tell you,they play very loud and no limit light all night...one of my best expenses.

Very odd the SRX is limiting so early....reminds me of my ZLX which are 1000W but they limit early....though the price justifies that though lol.
DJZed 9:59 PM - 23 March, 2016
Power specs mean absolutely nothing. The SRX tops are supposed to fly past the QSC KW181 in terms of SPL--if the SRX limits before the KW sub, something's wrong.
Asu 10:01 PM - 23 March, 2016
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Almost but not all the way.
Even when my line faders from the controller is a bit up. The speaker level is already at half.


set the speaker levels at 12 O'clock(0 DB) ...that's where i set my PRX...Channel trims at 12 O'clock....Master on the Mixer at 2-3 O'clock...you won't have an issue...especially if you high-pass the Tops...you shouldn't have any issues.
DTweed 11:14 PM - 23 March, 2016
Kind of curious to know if the SRX 812P are to strong to match with the PRX 715 XLF subs. Right now I have them matched with some K10s and for the most part my subs don't limit but the K10s might pending on venue.

I guess my questions is do I swap out the K10s and match em with the 812p instead and when I have bigger gigs I'll get the 818 subs? Would love the 828 but right now I'm in a 2 floor walk up and it ain't happening and I have a Camary 😩
Asu 11:39 PM - 23 March, 2016
Get the PRX 712 tops,they are just as loud and don't limit even at high volume...you'll thank me later...they're also quite cheaper than the new SRX...
Arjun B 1:09 AM - 24 March, 2016
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Yeah the PRX7-- series is really appealing now becuase of how cheap they've become due to the release of the SRX series, and how good they still are in the current market in comparison to many other speakers of the same range.
pdidy 6:14 PM - 24 March, 2016
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pdidy (and anyone else) -

which speakers do you think provide more power/thump the yorkville ls800 sub or the JBL VRX918? Would you consider them about even or is there a clear winner? I know and heard the Yorkville and know they bump I've heard the JBL as well but not in the same time frame so I dont have a real good comparison of the two
pdidy 2:33 PM - 25 March, 2016
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pdidy (and anyone else) -

which speakers do you think provide more power/thump the yorkville ls800 sub or the JBL VRX918? Would you consider them about even or is there a clear winner? I know and heard the Yorkville and know they bump I've heard the JBL as well but not in the same time frame so I dont have a real good comparison of the two

i made a thread on that serato.com

The loudest= winner yorkville ls801p (no surprise)
Best sound quality= winner vrxjbl 918sp
Goes Lowest= winner jbl vrx918sp
Bang for Buck= winner yorkville ls801p (yorkville street price $1000) (JBL street price $1500)
Portability= winner jbl vrx918sp (no surprise)
Best Warranty= winner yorkville ls801p (2yr even if you fuckitup, they will fix it for free Warranty)
pdidy 2:36 PM - 25 March, 2016
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Would you consider them about even or is there a clear winner?

its not even close, the yorkville is much louder. you would need 2 subs to keep up with 1 yorkville..
Asu 2:37 PM - 1 April, 2016
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Best sound quality= winner vrxjbl 918sp


The SRX818SP & SRX828SP at $1300-$1800 Street Price are the actual winners here...it's been confirmed...These subs almost keep up with $2700 subs like the BASSBOSS SSP118 and $3995 dual 18" SSP218 which are monsters performancewise.

I'm personally looking to buy SRX828SP...makes financial sense vs SPL output.
Scully DJ Services 7:07 PM - 1 April, 2016
I heard the 828SP is $1500 street price
DJ Val-BKNY11203 10:52 PM - 1 April, 2016
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Best sound quality= winner vrxjbl 918sp


The SRX818SP & SRX828SP at $1300-$1800 Street Price are the actual winners here...it's been confirmed...These subs almost keep up with $2700 subs like the BASSBOSS SSP118 and $3995 dual 18" SSP218 which are monsters performancewise.

I'm personally looking to buy SRX828SP...makes financial sense vs SPL output.


After reading all of those charts PDiddy posted I get where he s coming from. The VRX & BassBoss provide the proper sound quality of a subwoofer. They play the lower Hz better to give the true bottom sound. The commercial boxes like the JBL, Yorkville, play at higher Hz and give more output.
Asu 12:49 AM - 2 April, 2016
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I heard the 828SP is $1500 street price

That's a cool deal,who do i need to call?
Asu 12:56 AM - 2 April, 2016
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After reading all of those charts PDiddy posted I get where he s coming from. The VRX & BassBoss provide the proper sound quality of a subwoofer. They play the lower Hz better to give the true bottom sound. The commercial boxes like the JBL, Yorkville, play at higher Hz and give more output.


All true but financially speaking the SRX828SP puts out some serious bottom end as good or even better than the single BassBoss 118 eat a much lower cost $2700 vs $1500
DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:57 AM - 2 April, 2016
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After reading all of those charts PDiddy posted I get where he s coming from. The VRX & BassBoss provide the proper sound quality of a subwoofer. They play the lower Hz better to give the true bottom sound. The commercial boxes like the JBL, Yorkville, play at higher Hz and give more output.


All true but financially speaking the SRX828SP puts out some serious bottom end as good or even better than the single BassBoss 118 eat a much lower cost $2700 vs $1500


Well it is a double 18...it should be louder then the single. I'm not knocking your choice, but there is a difference in output and quality of sound.
Scully DJ Services 2:22 AM - 2 April, 2016
@DJ Val

What kind of gigs do you do where a patron would notice a diference in sound quality? For me at least, once you get to a certain level of SQ the wow factor to really any audience is output.
SG SOUNDS 2:25 AM - 2 April, 2016
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After reading all of those charts PDiddy posted I get where he s coming from. The VRX & BassBoss provide the proper sound quality of a subwoofer. They play the lower Hz better to give the true bottom sound. The commercial boxes like the JBL, Yorkville, play at higher Hz and give more output.


All true but financially speaking the SRX828SP puts out some serious bottom end as good or even better than the single BassBoss 118 eat a much lower cost $2700 vs $1500


Well it is a double 18...it should be louder then the single. I'm not knocking your choice, but there is a difference in output and quality of sound.


the difference is not much...to my ears the srx subs sounds better than the vrx and can hold its own against the bassboss...to me the vrx just dont pound enough for me..i quess its the type of music i play...my srx828 buts out some serious bass
DJ Val-BKNY11203 4:40 PM - 2 April, 2016
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What kind of gigs do you do where a patron would notice a diference in sound quality? For me at least, once you get to a certain level of SQ the wow factor to really any audience is output.


It's about the quality that you want to put out.

The patrons will still dance to 96 bit rate songs but we don't play them because you want quality.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 4:55 PM - 2 April, 2016
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After reading all of those charts PDiddy posted I get where he s coming from. The VRX & BassBoss provide the proper sound quality of a subwoofer. They play the lower Hz better to give the true bottom sound. The commercial boxes like the JBL, Yorkville, play at higher Hz and give more output.


All true but financially speaking the SRX828SP puts out some serious bottom end as good or even better than the single BassBoss 118 eat a much lower cost $2700 vs $1500


Well it is a double 18...it should be louder then the single. I'm not knocking your choice, but there is a difference in output and quality of sound.


the difference is not much...to my ears the srx subs sounds better than the vrx and can hold its own against the bassboss...to me the vrx just dont pound enough for me..i quess its the type of music i play...my srx828 buts out some serious bass


No one is saying the SRX are not good speakers and don't go loud. What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale. That is where they excel giving true bass response in the lowest spectrum. The SRX deliver in a higher Hz range. If you don't know what you are listening for, you won't hear the difference.
Asu 12:50 PM - 6 April, 2016
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What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale.

The 828 actually get's there too and get's louder than the above two...it's the best bang for our $$$ to date especially if you can source one for $1500-$1600
SG SOUNDS 1:09 PM - 6 April, 2016
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What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale.

The 828 actually get's there too and get's louder than the above two...it's the best bang for our $$$ to date especially if you can source one for $1500-$1600


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DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:43 PM - 6 April, 2016
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What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale.

The 828 actually get's there too and get's louder than the above two...it's the best bang for our $$$ to date especially if you can source one for $1500-$1600


It is a double 18 it's supposed to be louder.

If you are looking for the best bargain for loudness & $$$ then it's for you.

If you are looking for the best quality of sound you will get something else.

Did you read the chart to understand what I'm saying?
Asu 1:43 PM - 6 April, 2016
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What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale.

The 828 actually get's there too and get's louder than the above two...it's the best bang for our $$$ to date especially if you can source one for $1500-$1600


+1


FYI was comparing the single 18 bassboss...Good times for DJ's
SG SOUNDS 2:52 PM - 6 April, 2016
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What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale.

The 828 actually get's there too and get's louder than the above two...it's the best bang for our $$$ to date especially if you can source one for $1500-$1600


+1


FYI was comparing the single 18 bassboss...Good times for DJ's


i know...the chart shows how good the srx818sp is compared to the BassBoss single 18 sub....now for the price of getting 4 bassboss speakers to 2 jbl srx 828sp subs its a no brainer for the sound quality you're getting for the srx subs...now if he wants to spend more money on a slightly better box in the bassboss hey thats on him...
DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:01 PM - 6 April, 2016
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What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale.

The 828 actually get's there too and get's louder than the above two...it's the best bang for our $$$ to date especially if you can source one for $1500-$1600


+1


FYI was comparing the single 18 bassboss...Good times for DJ's


i know...the chart shows how good the srx818sp is compared to the BassBoss single 18 sub....now for the price of getting 4 bassboss speakers to 2 jbl srx 828sp subs its a no brainer for the sound quality you're getting for the srx subs...now if he wants to spend more money on a slightly better box in the bassboss hey thats on him...


There is a reason some people buy a Mercedes and others a Kia. They are both cars. It's about how much you want to spend vs the quality you want.
SG SOUNDS 3:20 PM - 6 April, 2016
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What's I'm saying is the VRX & BassBoss boxes are meant to deliver at the lower HZ scale.

The 828 actually get's there too and get's louder than the above two...it's the best bang for our $$$ to date especially if you can source one for $1500-$1600


+1


FYI was comparing the single 18 bassboss...Good times for DJ's


i know...the chart shows how good the srx818sp is compared to the BassBoss single 18 sub....now for the price of getting 4 bassboss speakers to 2 jbl srx 828sp subs its a no brainer for the sound quality you're getting for the srx subs...now if he wants to spend more money on a slightly better box in the bassboss hey thats on him...


There is a reason some people buy a Mercedes and others a Kia. They are both cars. It's about how much you want to spend vs the quality you want.


The distance in quality between the speakers mentioned above is not spaced as far as the quality between a Mercedes and a Kia....now if we were talking between the srx and danley speakers NOW THATS A BIG DIFFRENCE....hey bro if you got money to shell on the bassboss subs then go for it im just trying to provide info on better alternitives for the MONEY...

With that being said you might as well go all out and get the danley subs $$$
Asu 7:05 PM - 7 April, 2016
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That's an odd example...SRX is quality equipment...more like regular Mercedes vs AMG lol
SELECT 7:06 PM - 18 April, 2016
Guys I need your help. Buying two 15in tops in the next few weeks. Out of these two which would you prefer. Ive seen countless videos and reviews on both. I just cant decide. They both seem really great. The RCF is lighter and has better components, but the Yorkville is a workhorse and bass output would let me leave the sub at home for a lot of smaller weddings.

RCF 735a- 43 pounds, 3 in neo voicecoil, 1.5 exit, super light and Im extremely impressed by its limiting, this guy has the mixer maxed out and they dont seem to flinch. Watchwww.youtube.com


Yorkville Parasource PS15P- 60 pounds, 3 in voicecoil, 1 in exit, bass is awesome, no need for sub. Watchwww.youtube.com
SELECT 7:06 PM - 18 April, 2016
At 4:30 you can see the demo-

RCF 735a- 43 pounds, 3 in neo voicecoil, 1.5 exit, super light and Im extremely impressed by its limiting, this guy has the mixer maxed out and they dont seem to flinch. Watchwww.youtube.com
pdidy 8:03 PM - 18 April, 2016
For me it's not much of a competition, I would choose the RCF.
Arjun B 8:13 PM - 18 April, 2016
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Yorkville Parasource PS15P- 60 pounds, 3 in voicecoil, 1 in exit, bass is awesome, no need for sub. Watchwww.youtube.com

The PS15p only have a 1.5" high-frequency compression voicecoil, vs the 3" titanium HF compression driver in the RCF. You're going to get much better high's in the RCF and its the most obvious choice of the 2. I have seen, used, heard and beaten the PS15p. It is a workhorse, but doesn't stand up quality wise against the RCF 735a.
SELECT 8:53 PM - 18 April, 2016
Thank you guys!!!! Ive been debating this for over a week. Going with RCF! Just have no clue of what subs work best with the 735a and I definitely want to keep it under 100 pounds or close to it.
SELECT 8:54 PM - 18 April, 2016
Not mixing and matching so RCF sub to go with RCF 735a tops. Buying one to start.
pdidy 9:18 PM - 18 April, 2016
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Not mixing and matching so RCF sub to go with RCF 735a tops. Buying one to start.

Didn't you have passive Jbl srx718's before ?
DJKayce 10:12 PM - 18 April, 2016
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Thank you guys!!!! Ive been debating this for over a week. Going with RCF! Just have no clue of what subs work best with the 735a and I definitely want to keep it under 100 pounds or close to it.


Mind you RCF has no crossover so which ever sub/subs you are getting, make sure there's crossover built in. I think RCF is better choice.

I heard the 745-A and I was blown away. The only thing that stopped me was the no crossover issue. Am using yorkville LS801p so no crossover either on my subs so the 745 wouldn't work for me.
SELECT 11:08 PM - 18 April, 2016
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Not mixing and matching so RCF sub to go with RCF 735a tops. Buying one to start.

Didn't you have passive Jbl srx718's before ?


Yeah, that was ages ago, at least it feels like that lol. I miss them, but I don't miss carrying the amp racks, etc. Those things killed it and my car suspension. I had to go powered. Ive been using the ETX for a while now and while they sound great, the tops do limit more than I like. In particular in very hot environments. They don't stop playing, but the turn down. I do a lot of outdoor weddings and in the late summer its just sucks. Going 15 tops and 18 bottom, powered.

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Thank you guys!!!! Ive been debating this for over a week. Going with RCF! Just have no clue of what subs work best with the 735a and I definitely want to keep it under 100 pounds or close to it.


Mind you RCF has no crossover so which ever sub/subs you are getting, make sure there's crossover built in. I think RCF is better choice.

I heard the 745-A and I was blown away. The only thing that stopped me was the no crossover issue. Am using yorkville LS801p so no crossover either on my subs so the 745 wouldn't work for me.


Yeah RCF is making some awesome speakers, the 745a are pricey. I don't mix and match so an RCF sub it will be. Their subs have a link/xover high pass filter switch and separate crossover settings so the tops don't need one.
pdidy 12:11 AM - 19 April, 2016
1. SUB 8004-AS : Over your weight limit but the best choice and will beat a SRX718/VRX918sp
2. 4PRO 8003-AS : Over your weight limit but comparable to a SRX718.
3. SUB 708-AS II : Meets your weight limit but maybe a lil lower spl than a SRX718
benictrs 12:15 AM - 19 April, 2016
i have the
8004as+art745 combo as the "Big" system
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705+hd32a as the "little"system
you can't go wrong with a setup from rcf
benictrs 12:15 AM - 19 April, 2016
per side forget to mention sorry
benictrs 12:22 AM - 19 April, 2016
pdidy is wright in 99%
JDforKing 12:22 AM - 19 April, 2016
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you can't go wrong with a setup from rcf


Do the hd32a outrun the 705 subs?
benictrs 12:24 AM - 19 April, 2016
yes
but they do an outstanding job together
benictrs 12:26 AM - 19 April, 2016
i have donne events with 2xhd32's and only one 705as
JDforKing 12:52 AM - 19 April, 2016
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how large of an event?
SELECT 3:42 AM - 19 April, 2016
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1. SUB 8004-AS : Over your weight limit but the best choice and will beat a SRX718/VRX918sp
2. 4PRO 8003-AS : Over your weight limit but comparable to a SRX718.
3. SUB 708-AS II : Meets your weight limit but maybe a lil lower spl than a SRX718


Thanks for this!
benictrs 10:59 AM - 19 April, 2016
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how large of an event?


90-100 person wedding .
Asu 11:26 PM - 19 April, 2016
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Since you loved the passive PRX,why not get the powered 1500W PRX718XLF...SPL shouldn't be that different from the VRX,RCF,SRX818SP but comes in quite cheaper for the same quality punch.
Scully DJ Services 12:20 AM - 20 April, 2016
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Since you loved the passive PRX,why not get the powered 1500W PRX718XLF...SPL shouldn't be that different from the VRX,RCF,SRX818SP but comes in quite cheaper for the same quality punch.


He doesn't want a mismatched set of speakers. Also, a PRX718XLF can't keep up with a RCF ART735A. I own a 718XLF myself along with a couple of Yamaha DBR15s and a single DBR15 can outrun it. Based on my experience with the sub, he would need quite a few of them to match the output of a pair of 735As.
Joee 8:44 PM - 20 April, 2016
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Guys I need your help. Buying two 15in tops in the next few weeks. Out of these two which would you prefer. Ive seen countless videos and reviews on both. I just cant decide. They both seem really great. The RCF is lighter and has better components, but the Yorkville is a workhorse and bass output would let me leave the sub at home for a lot of smaller weddings.

RCF 735a- 43 pounds, 3 in neo voicecoil, 1.5 exit, super light and Im extremely impressed by its limiting, this guy has the mixer maxed out and they dont seem to flinch. Watchwww.youtube.com


Yorkville Parasource PS15P- 60 pounds, 3 in voicecoil, 1 in exit, bass is awesome, no need for sub. Watchwww.youtube.com

i see you are looking at the 15" york

you haven't considered this www.rcf.it


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8004as+art745 combo as the "Big" system
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705+hd32a as the "little"system
you can't go wrong with a setup from rcf


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it to replace the 705 do it, you will be extremely happy, it hits like an 18"
Johnnynights 4:04 PM - 21 April, 2016
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Guys I need your help. Buying two 15in tops in the next few weeks. Out of these two which would you prefer. Ive seen countless videos and reviews on both. I just cant decide. They both seem really great. The RCF is lighter and has better components, but the Yorkville is a workhorse and bass output would let me leave the sub at home for a lot of smaller weddings.

RCF 735a- 43 pounds, 3 in neo voicecoil, 1.5 exit, super light and Im extremely impressed by its limiting, this guy has the mixer maxed out and they dont seem to flinch. Watchwww.youtube.com


Yorkville Parasource PS15P- 60 pounds, 3 in voicecoil, 1 in exit, bass is awesome, no need for sub. Watchwww.youtube.com

i see you are looking at the 15" york

you haven't considered this www.rcf.it


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i have the
8004as+art745 combo as the "Big" system
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705+hd32a as the "little"system
you can't go wrong with a setup from rcf


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it to replace the 705 do it, you will be extremely happy, it hits like an 18"

I like that rcf 745a if you know where to find it for cheaper price let me know i might be interested.

I also heard it dont have a crossover built in,i use a ls801p so it would suck to carry a external crossover.
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I like that rcf 745a if you know where to find it for cheaper price let me know i might be interested.

have you checked proaudiostar?

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this is true
SELECT 5:59 PM - 21 April, 2016
RCF subs have crossovers for the tops. You would only need an external crossover if you mix their tops with other brands.
Johnnynights 1:06 AM - 23 April, 2016
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I like that rcf 745a if you know where to find it for cheaper price let me know i might be interested.

have you checked proaudiostar?

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this is true

I havent checked with them but over here in LA i can get them the lowest for 1550 for each one is that a deal?

Yeah the crossover part i didnt like but im thinking to get a pair.
Johnnynights 1:07 AM - 23 April, 2016
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RCF subs have crossovers for the tops. You would only need an external crossover if you mix their tops with other brands.


Yeah i saw that mmm i have a ls801p but would be hard to switch to rcf subs unless theres one that sounds better and louder than my yorkie.
Rebelguy 1:51 AM - 23 April, 2016
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I havent checked with them but over here in LA i can get them the lowest for 1550 for each one is that a deal?


No. You can find them around $1350 if you look around.
Johnnynights 6:29 PM - 23 April, 2016
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I havent checked with them but over here in LA i can get them the lowest for 1550 for each one is that a deal?


No. You can find them around $1350 if you look around.

Thats a steal for that price if you guys know pm me where at lol
Johnnynights 6:32 PM - 23 April, 2016
But i will keep looking for lowest =)
DJ gsr 9:13 PM - 23 April, 2016
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I havent checked with them but over here in LA i can get them the lowest for 1550 for each one is that a deal?


No. You can find them around $1350 if you look around.

Thats a steal for that price if you guys know pm me where at lol
DJ Dub Cowboy 9:16 PM - 24 April, 2016
This thread hasn't been about the new JBL SRX line for a while.
Just curious... is anybody rocking them and LOVING them.

I heard two 835s and a 818 and I was not impressed. The owner had them all hooked up wrong and didn't know what to do with the DSP. I fixed it and it still sounded like blaring ass.
I also wasn't very impressed with the onboard DSP controls. Unless I missed something, it's just a digital crossover setting and you would need their software to access EQ functions.
benictrs 9:34 PM - 24 April, 2016
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i have the
8004as+art745 combo as the "Big" system
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705+hd32a as the "little"system
you can't go wrong with a setup from rcf


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it to replace the 705 do it, you will be extremely happy, it hits like an 18"


I know . but for the moment the 705 mk2 suits my needs , and for how much it weights it's the best solution for my needs .

It all comes down for what you actualy need , i personaly would prefer to buy two aditional 8004's from rcf if i need to expand my system. But for the moment i'm set :)
Johnnynights 9:34 PM - 24 April, 2016
Just want to give an update on my Jbl srx815p one of my speakers failed on me yesterday =(

I was playing 20 minutes in the gig barely starting music not even loud i mean like barely a little bit of signal.. after i started hearing a small pop(like when you have a bad cable) so i noticed it wasnt playing and on the back of the speaker when it would make that pop it would say protect and limit so it seems like the amp went out also i never send distorted signal to my speakers all green not even yellow..im dissapointed right now honestly.

A little while ago i double checked with different cables and connected it to a different source and it does the same thing =(....im going to call jbl tommorow.
DJ Guayo 6:27 PM - 25 April, 2016
RCF NX-L44A finally available state-side...

www.proaudiostar.com

Currently own HD32a's and 8004s. I've been considering these over the NX-L24. That price tag just might be too high. I already have venues and clients telling me to turn it down and I could make more money getting additional moving heads.
Asu 3:56 AM - 27 April, 2016
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yeah you're set...i'd get more moving heads...that's an added visual benefit
SELECT 2:20 PM - 29 April, 2016
Thank to all who helped me with advice! My new set of speakers arrived, RCF 735A and 708as Sub and I couldnt be happier! So far testing them at home the tops are strong, clear and bump. The sub is awesome and I love the way it sounds so far. Much stronger than I thought it would be. Its also huge in size, but fairly easy to pick up. I cant wait to test it out tonight at my gig and let you know how they project. I couldn't turn them up at home cause it was really late. s66.photobucket.com
Joee 2:28 PM - 29 April, 2016
nice
JDforKing 5:14 PM - 29 April, 2016
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Thank to all who helped me with advice! My new set of speakers arrived, RCF 735A and 708as Sub and I couldnt be happier! So far testing them at home the tops are strong, clear and bump. The sub is awesome and I love the way it sounds so far. Much stronger than I thought it would be. Its also huge in size, but fairly easy to pick up. I cant wait to test it out tonight at my gig and let you know how they project. I couldn't turn them up at home cause it was really late. s66.photobucket.com


What size and type of events do you plan on using this set up for?
SELECT 6:12 PM - 29 April, 2016
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Thank to all who helped me with advice! My new set of speakers arrived, RCF 735A and 708as Sub and I couldnt be happier! So far testing them at home the tops are strong, clear and bump. The sub is awesome and I love the way it sounds so far. Much stronger than I thought it would be. Its also huge in size, but fairly easy to pick up. I cant wait to test it out tonight at my gig and let you know how they project. I couldn't turn them up at home cause it was really late. s66.photobucket.com


What size and type of events do you plan on using this set up for?


Weddings, School dances and private events. I was using the ETX 12 and 15 sub before and that was enough. My new setup is however lighter and stronger FTW.
Joee 6:17 PM - 29 April, 2016
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Thank to all who helped me with advice! My new set of speakers arrived, RCF 735A and 708as Sub and I couldnt be happier! So far testing them at home the tops are strong, clear and bump. The sub is awesome and I love the way it sounds so far. Much stronger than I thought it would be. Its also huge in size, but fairly easy to pick up. I cant wait to test it out tonight at my gig and let you know how they project. I couldn't turn them up at home cause it was really late. s66.photobucket.com


What size and type of events do you plan on using this set up for?


Weddings, School dances and private events. I was using the ETX 12 and 15 sub before and that was enough. My new setup is however lighter and stronger FTW.


another RCF convert ;)
SELECT 6:28 PM - 29 April, 2016
Lol, yup, they make great speakers. Im a fan.
Joee 6:34 PM - 29 April, 2016
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Lol, yup, they make great speakers. Im a fan.


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it

i think you will love it, believe it or not i think it hits harder than the new 708, i didn't get a chance to do a proper side by side but the 905 may hit harder

the 708 does go lower & has a much more quality sound tho
SELECT 7:16 PM - 29 April, 2016
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Lol, yup, they make great speakers. Im a fan.


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it

i think you will love it, believe it or not i think it hits harder than the new 708, i didn't get a chance to do a proper side by side but the 905 may hit harder

the 708 does go lower & has a much more quality sound tho


Yeah that 15 in sub is awesome. From what Ive experienced 15 in subs are more efficient in the mids hence the punchy bass. My ETX was like that and it sounded best at the 100 hz crossover setting. 18 in subs def go lower and are a better suited for my 15 in tops when crossed over. The crossover setting on the sub at 80hz sounds superb. I get enough from the tops and the bottom bumps. I'll have to try the mid 120hz setting tho and see how this sub reacts. Could be very punchy or muddy and weird.
JDforKing 7:52 PM - 29 April, 2016
If a sub has a built in crossover, say like the jbl prx718xlf, if the crossover on the sub isn't engaged does that mean the sub sends a full range signal out of the thru to the tops?
DJ Guayo 8:06 PM - 29 April, 2016
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Thank to all who helped me with advice! My new set of speakers arrived, RCF 735A and 708as Sub and I couldnt be happier! So far testing them at home the tops are strong, clear and bump. The sub is awesome and I love the way it sounds so far. Much stronger than I thought it would be. Its also huge in size, but fairly easy to pick up. I cant wait to test it out tonight at my gig and let you know how they project. I couldn't turn them up at home cause it was really late. s66.photobucket.com


Congrats!!!
pdidy 8:50 PM - 29 April, 2016
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If a sub has a built in crossover, say like the jbl prx718xlf, if the crossover on the sub isn't engaged does that mean the sub sends a full range signal out of the thru to the tops?

yes
Joee 8:52 PM - 29 April, 2016
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If a sub has a built in crossover, say like the jbl prx718xlf, if the crossover on the sub isn't engaged does that mean the sub sends a full range signal out of the thru to the tops?

yes


ay pdidy! when you gonna get that 8004 / nlx24 combo?

lol……….
JDforKing 9:07 PM - 29 April, 2016
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If a sub has a built in crossover, say like the jbl prx718xlf, if the crossover on the sub isn't engaged does that mean the sub sends a full range signal out of the thru to the tops?

yes


So if i don't engage the crossover in the sub, run the thru signal full range and engage the crossover in my tops (example dxr12 at 100hz) will the system sound fine?
pdidy 10:02 PM - 29 April, 2016
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If a sub has a built in crossover, say like the jbl prx718xlf, if the crossover on the sub isn't engaged does that mean the sub sends a full range signal out of the thru to the tops?

yes


So if i don't engage the crossover in the sub, run the thru signal full range and engage the crossover in my tops (example dxr12 at 100hz) will the system sound fine?

yes if the jbl prx718xlf also has a 100hz crossover
JDforKing 11:26 PM - 29 April, 2016
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If a sub has a built in crossover, say like the jbl prx718xlf, if the crossover on the sub isn't engaged does that mean the sub sends a full range signal out of the thru to the tops?

yes


So if i don't engage the crossover in the sub, run the thru signal full range and engage the crossover in my tops (example dxr12 at 100hz) will the system sound fine?

yes if the jbl prx718xlf also has a 100hz crossover


I used the the jbl 718xlf as an example but I actually have the older version the jbl prx718s that has an internal crossover that crosses the tops at 120. I was trying to find a work around to cross my dxrs at 100 instead of 120 without having to buy an external crossover.
Joee 11:36 PM - 29 April, 2016
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I used the the jbl 718xlf as an example but I actually have the older version the jbl prx718s that has an internal crossover that crosses the tops at 120. I was trying to find a work around to cross my dxrs at 100 instead of 120 without having to buy an external crossover.


wouldn't they work perfectly in conjunction?

if the 718s crosses over at 120 (below), you can set the dxr @ 120 (above)

maybe i'm reading wrong? but they should work together
JDforKing 11:44 PM - 29 April, 2016
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I used the the jbl 718xlf as an example but I actually have the older version the jbl prx718s that has an internal crossover that crosses the tops at 120. I was trying to find a work around to cross my dxrs at 100 instead of 120 without having to buy an external crossover.


wouldn't they work perfectly in conjunction?

if the 718s crosses over at 120 (below), you can set the dxr @ 120 (above)

maybe i'm reading wrong? but they should work together


when I use my Yamaha dxr8s with my jbl prx718s I use the subs internal crossover which crosses the sub and tops at 120hz. I was under the impression that the larger the speaker like a Yamaha dxr12 the crossover point should be a little lower like at 100hz. Please correct me if my assumption is wrong. Joee I actually used the 718s with my rcf fd12 and wasnt sure if I liked the way the two sounded together at that crossover point. The following week I used the 718s/dxr8 combo enabling the internal crossover at 120hz and loved the way that combo sounds.
DJ Dub Cowboy 1:22 AM - 30 April, 2016
120hz on my VRX918s sounds like ass. I use the 80hz setting when paired with the RCF HD-32s alone. If I have the drive rack running I set the crossover point around 100 and it sounds sweet.
Johnnynights 2:58 AM - 30 April, 2016
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Thank to all who helped me with advice! My new set of speakers arrived, RCF 735A and 708as Sub and I couldnt be happier! So far testing them at home the tops are strong, clear and bump. The sub is awesome and I love the way it sounds so far. Much stronger than I thought it would be. Its also huge in size, but fairly easy to pick up. I cant wait to test it out tonight at my gig and let you know how they project. I couldn't turn them up at home cause it was really late. s66.photobucket.com

Nice setup you picked up im sure those speakers and sub have a lot of headroom... soon i also might be joining the rcf team.
DJ Dub Cowboy 4:57 AM - 30 April, 2016
Is that the 708as2 or the original model?
Asu 7:34 AM - 30 April, 2016
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It's an improved version I believe
Joee 10:45 AM - 30 April, 2016
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when I use my Yamaha dxr8s with my jbl prx718s I use the subs internal crossover which crosses the sub and tops at 120hz. I was under the impression that the larger the speaker like a Yamaha dxr12 the crossover point should be a little lower like at 100hz. Please correct me if my assumption is wrong. Joee I actually used the 718s with my rcf fd12 and wasnt sure if I liked the way the two sounded together at that crossover point. The following week I used the 718s/dxr8 combo enabling the internal crossover at 120hz and loved the way that combo sounds.


you are correct, i was just saying technically they should work together , sub 120 below top 120 above
SG SOUNDS 6:58 PM - 30 April, 2016
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Lol, yup, they make great speakers. Im a fan.


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it

i think you will love it, believe it or not i think it hits harder than the new 708, i didn't get a chance to do a proper side by side but the 905 may hit harder

the 708 does go lower & has a much more quality sound tho


Yeah that 15 in sub is awesome. From what Ive experienced 15 in subs are more efficient in the mids hence the punchy bass. My ETX was like that and it sounded best at the 100 hz crossover setting. 18 in subs def go lower and are a better suited for my 15 in tops when crossed over. The crossover setting on the sub at 80hz sounds superb. I get enough from the tops and the bottom bumps. I'll have to try the mid 120hz setting tho and see how this sub reacts. Could be very punchy or muddy and weird.


did you get one rcf sub or 2 and also is it easier to move around than the etx subs you had? i also have 2 etx15 subs but have not gotten to gig them out yet at full blast...i have 2 srx812 on order coming in next week to go with them sold my dxr15's
JDforKing 8:44 PM - 30 April, 2016
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Lol, yup, they make great speakers. Im a fan.


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it

i think you will love it, believe it or not i think it hits harder than the new 708, i didn't get a chance to do a proper side by side but the 905 may hit harder

the 708 does go lower & has a much more quality sound tho


Yeah that 15 in sub is awesome. From what Ive experienced 15 in subs are more efficient in the mids hence the punchy bass. My ETX was like that and it sounded best at the 100 hz crossover setting. 18 in subs def go lower and are a better suited for my 15 in tops when crossed over. The crossover setting on the sub at 80hz sounds superb. I get enough from the tops and the bottom bumps. I'll have to try the mid 120hz setting tho and see how this sub reacts. Could be very punchy or muddy and weird.


did you get one rcf sub or 2 and also is it easier to move around than the etx subs you had? i also have 2 etx15 subs but have not gotten to gig them out yet at full blast...i have 2 srx812 on order coming in next week to go with them sold my dxr15's


Oh no, you sold your dxr15. What happened?
SG SOUNDS 9:31 PM - 30 April, 2016
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Lol, yup, they make great speakers. Im a fan.


if you can get your hands on this www.rcf.it

i think you will love it, believe it or not i think it hits harder than the new 708, i didn't get a chance to do a proper side by side but the 905 may hit harder

the 708 does go lower & has a much more quality sound tho


Yeah that 15 in sub is awesome. From what Ive experienced 15 in subs are more efficient in the mids hence the punchy bass. My ETX was like that and it sounded best at the 100 hz crossover setting. 18 in subs def go lower and are a better suited for my 15 in tops when crossed over. The crossover setting on the sub at 80hz sounds superb. I get enough from the tops and the bottom bumps. I'll have to try the mid 120hz setting tho and see how this sub reacts. Could be very punchy or muddy and weird.


did you get one rcf sub or 2 and also is it easier to move around than the etx subs you had? i also have 2 etx15 subs but have not gotten to gig them out yet at full blast...i have 2 srx812 on order coming in next week to go with them sold my dxr15's


Oh no, you sold your dxr15. What happened?


just wanted a little more power for my small gigs because they can get unexpectedly hetic sometimes for dancehall and soca music....so i bought 2 etx15sp subs to go with my dxr's...then i decided on going 12" for tops i was going to get the dsr12's but i fell in love with the srx812...the srx812 can put out some vocals over med to large crowds..should be getting them this week...
DJ gsr 10:10 PM - 30 April, 2016
srx812 is better than rcf hd32a or art 725a?
SG SOUNDS 11:40 AM - 1 May, 2016
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good question both the srx812p and the rcf hd32a have 3" voice coils the art 725a i believe is a 2.5 voice coil....looking at the specs the srx puts out way more spl out of the 3....for 12" boxes the dsr12s and srx812 are highly favored on the pro sound forum... i a/b both and the srx812p blew me away...
pdidy 12:57 PM - 1 May, 2016
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looking at the specs the srx puts out way more spl out of the 3

i wouldn't put too much faith into those printed specs :)
SG SOUNDS 2:55 PM - 1 May, 2016
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looking at the specs the srx puts out way more spl out of the 3

i wouldn't put too much faith into those printed specs :)


that was discussed alot in prosound forum...its real but not out the box brand new because of the pre set limiters jbl programed them to be...why jbl did this? thats the big question on the pro sound forum...you have to dial into them with the audio architect software to get the max output out of the srx boxes...
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looking at the specs the srx puts out way more spl out of the 3

i wouldn't put too much faith into those printed specs :)


that was discussed alot in prosound forum...its real but not out the box brand new because of the pre set limiters jbl programed them to be...why jbl did this? thats the big question on the pro sound forum...you have to dial into them with the audio architect software to get the max output out of the srx boxes...

I agree with you

What settings you using if you dont mind me asking?
SELECT 5:57 PM - 2 May, 2016
I had my first gig with my RCF 735a and 708 sub. Unfortunately I didn't get to really test them out before and had mixed results. It was a rush setup for my gig. Few things I did wrong was not set the phase switch to zero, out of the box its at 180 degrees. The sub sounded low and not enough bump out front. I left the crossover at 80hz and it sounded weak. At home tho when I finally got to test them the crossover on the sub sounded WAY better at 120hz than 80hz. At 80hz the sub wasnt anything special, but at 120hz it bumps and hits harder, sounds more like an 18in sub. The tops also crossed over at 120hz sound way smoother with the sub. The input signal level is not matched. The tops start to limit when I turn the dial to 1 oclock + and the subs are closer to 11-12 oclock. The tops compared to my ETX are more direct and dont sound like they are as wide. They dont spread out the same thats for sure. It hits harder in front. They really sound like they are coming out of a box and you can tell where the sound is coming from, that horn is very present. The bass is good and wont distort if you crank it. Again the coverage seems to be more in front. Things I really do love about the 735a is that they are super light and take more input to get them going. It will be hard to distort these when playing with people who run in the red. The RCF 18 sub is 8 pounds lighter than my ETX 15 in sub. I will say the ETX 15 sub sounds better. It spreads more and is easily fit under a table. It also comes with casters out the box, the RCF does not. Will it hit harder tho in front, Im not sure yet as my settings were off first time out. Im having a very hard time transporting the RCF right now as they dont sell the AC PRO Casters anywhere and nothing in home depot fits. Trust me I tried them all. You are forced to buy their casters, but good luck finding them. Its a pain in the ass getting in and out of my house as I have to carry it everywhere.
DJ Guayo 7:24 PM - 2 May, 2016
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I had my first gig with my RCF 735a and 708 sub. Unfortunately I didn't get to really test them out before and had mixed results. It was a rush setup for my gig. Few things I did wrong was not set the phase switch to zero, out of the box its at 180 degrees. The sub sounded low and not enough bump out front. I left the crossover at 80hz and it sounded weak. At home tho when I finally got to test them the crossover on the sub sounded WAY better at 120hz than 80hz. At 80hz the sub wasnt anything special, but at 120hz it bumps and hits harder, sounds more like an 18in sub. The tops also crossed over at 120hz sound way smoother with the sub. The input signal level is not matched. The tops start to limit when I turn the dial to 1 oclock + and the subs are closer to 11-12 oclock. The tops compared to my ETX are more direct and dont sound like they are as wide. They dont spread out the same thats for sure. It hits harder in front. They really sound like they are coming out of a box and you can tell where the sound is coming from, that horn is very present. The bass is good and wont distort if you crank it. Again the coverage seems to be more in front. Things I really do love about the 735a is that they are super light and take more input to get them going. It will be hard to distort these when playing with people who run in the red. The RCF 18 sub is 8 pounds lighter than my ETX 15 in sub. I will say the ETX 15 sub sounds better. It spreads more and is easily fit under a table. It also comes with casters out the box, the RCF does not. Will it hit harder tho in front, Im not sure yet as my settings were off first time out. Im having a very hard time transporting the RCF right now as they dont sell the AC PRO Casters anywhere and nothing in home depot fits. Trust me I tried them all. You are forced to buy their casters, but good luck finding them. Its a pain in the ass getting in and out of my house as I have to carry it everywhere.


Hit up your vendor for the casters. I had to have mine shipped from RCF. I will say they are high quality casters.
Joee 7:37 PM - 2 May, 2016
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I had my first gig with my RCF 735a and 708 sub. Unfortunately I didn't get to really test them out before and had mixed results. It was a rush setup for my gig. Few things I did wrong was not set the phase switch to zero, out of the box its at 180 degrees. The sub sounded low and not enough bump out front. I left the crossover at 80hz and it sounded weak. At home tho when I finally got to test them the crossover on the sub sounded WAY better at 120hz than 80hz. At 80hz the sub wasnt anything special, but at 120hz it bumps and hits harder, sounds more like an 18in sub. The tops also crossed over at 120hz sound way smoother with the sub. The input signal level is not matched. The tops start to limit when I turn the dial to 1 oclock + and the subs are closer to 11-12 oclock. The tops compared to my ETX are more direct and dont sound like they are as wide. They dont spread out the same thats for sure. It hits harder in front. They really sound like they are coming out of a box and you can tell where the sound is coming from, that horn is very present. The bass is good and wont distort if you crank it. Again the coverage seems to be more in front. Things I really do love about the 735a is that they are super light and take more input to get them going. It will be hard to distort these when playing with people who run in the red. The RCF 18 sub is 8 pounds lighter than my ETX 15 in sub. I will say the ETX 15 sub sounds better. It spreads more and is easily fit under a table. It also comes with casters out the box, the RCF does not. Will it hit harder tho in front, Im not sure yet as my settings were off first time out. Im having a very hard time transporting the RCF right now as they dont sell the AC PRO Casters anywhere and nothing in home depot fits. Trust me I tried them all. You are forced to buy their casters, but good luck finding them. Its a pain in the ass getting in and out of my house as I have to carry it everywhere.


tell me if yo experience this after you're used it 1 or 2 more times! initially when i first to my rcf sub 705-as i was not impressed, after breaking it in these was a noticeable difference & it made me say WOW

you only have one right? i have also noticed a difference when inputing both left and right inputs into the sub , vs just one left to one sub then a right into the other, but it doesn't apply to you since you were using only one you had both left & right input into the sub
Joee 7:39 PM - 2 May, 2016
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tell me if yo experience this after you've used it 1 or 2 more times! initially when i first used my rcf


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SELECT 7:52 PM - 2 May, 2016
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tell me if yo experience this after you're used it 1 or 2 more times! initially when i first to my rcf sub 705-as i was not impressed, after breaking it in these was a noticeable difference & it made me say WOW

you only have one right? i have also noticed a difference when inputing both left and right inputs into the sub , vs just one left to one sub then a right into the other, but it doesn't apply to you since you were using only one you had both left & right input into the sub


I will be using them again in a few weeks. I will have them set up correctly and see how it goes. You are correct, inputting both channels into the sub bumps it up considerably.
benictrs 11:00 PM - 2 May, 2016
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tell me if yo experience this after you're used it 1 or 2 more times! initially when i first to my rcf sub 705-as i was not impressed, after breaking it in these was a noticeable difference & it made me say WOW

you only have one right? i have also noticed a difference when inputing both left and right inputs into the sub , vs just one left to one sub then a right into the other, but it doesn't apply to you since you were using only one you had both left & right input into the sub


I will be using them again in a few weeks. I will have them set up correctly and see how it goes. You are correct, inputting both channels into the sub bumps it up considerably.

I don't think it bumps up anything . you only double the input volume you are atacking the amp so it will clip much earlier . It's the same speaker with the same amp , it will not sound any louder , just clip sooner . Please feel free to corect me if i'm wrong .
Joee 11:14 PM - 2 May, 2016
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I don't think it bumps up anything . you only double the input volume you are atacking the amp so it will clip much earlier . It's the same speaker with the same amp , it will not sound any louder , just clip sooner . Please feel free to corect me if i'm wrong .


i don't have the sub 705-as or art 905-as anymore to test, but i never experienced it clipping sooner when using both inputs rcf.media-display.it

to my ears it played better when using both vs using one
DJ Dub Cowboy 4:15 AM - 3 May, 2016
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tell me if yo experience this after you're used it 1 or 2 more times! initially when i first to my rcf sub 705-as i was not impressed, after breaking it in these was a noticeable difference & it made me say WOW

you only have one right? i have also noticed a difference when inputing both left and right inputs into the sub , vs just one left to one sub then a right into the other, but it doesn't apply to you since you were using only one you had both left & right input into the sub


I will be using them again in a few weeks. I will have them set up correctly and see how it goes. You are correct, inputting both channels into the sub bumps it up considerably.

I don't think it bumps up anything . you only double the input volume you are atacking the amp so it will clip much earlier . It's the same speaker with the same amp , it will not sound any louder , just clip sooner . Please feel free to corect me if i'm wrong .


Correct. Doubles input. turn gain on sub down.
DJ Dub Cowboy 4:17 AM - 3 May, 2016
Great feedback on the 708 so far. Keep it coming.

I find it interesting the 735s sound directional. I find my HD32s to be very wide. They fill the room.
SELECT 1:42 PM - 3 May, 2016
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I don't think it bumps up anything . you only double the input volume you are atacking the amp so it will clip much earlier . It's the same speaker with the same amp , it will not sound any louder , just clip sooner . Please feel free to corect me if i'm wrong .


Correct. Doubles input. turn gain on sub down.


So thats why it sounded like the volume went up. Makes more sense now. I'll have to test the input and speakers gain with just one input to the sub.
DJ Dub Cowboy 3:47 PM - 3 May, 2016
The reason to run both through the sub would be to take advantage of the hi-pass outputs on both sides.
SELECT 4:12 PM - 3 May, 2016
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The reason to run both through the sub would be to take advantage of the hi-pass outputs on both sides.


Good point.
SG SOUNDS 4:21 PM - 5 May, 2016
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looking at the specs the srx puts out way more spl out of the 3

i wouldn't put too much faith into those printed specs :)


that was discussed alot in prosound forum...its real but not out the box brand new because of the pre set limiters jbl programed them to be...why jbl did this? thats the big question on the pro sound forum...you have to dial into them with the audio architect software to get the max output out of the srx boxes...

I agree with you

What settings you using if you dont mind me asking?


The preset limiters from factory comes pre set at -10...in the audio architect you can bump the limiters up getting more spl out of them...dont know why jbl preset them like that...
SG SOUNDS 4:37 PM - 5 May, 2016
finally got my srx812p and all i can say is OMG!!! i was shocked of the output this 12 inch speaker puts out...the srx812 puts out way more low end than my old dxr15s and sounds more defined..just tested it out stand alone will test it with my etx15sp over the weekend...so far im amazed of the sound quality and output from a 12" box.....
Joee 4:42 PM - 5 May, 2016
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finally got my srx812p and all i can say is OMG!!! i was shocked of the output this 12 inch speaker puts out...the srx812 puts out way more low end than my old dxr15s and sounds more defined..just tested it out stand alone will test it with my etx15sp over the weekend...so far im amazed of the sound quality and output from a 12" box.....

wow, these new jbls may be the new go to speaker if it's like that , i think it has to do with being in a wood box vs plastic
SG SOUNDS 4:52 PM - 5 May, 2016
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finally got my srx812p and all i can say is OMG!!! i was shocked of the output this 12 inch speaker puts out...the srx812 puts out way more low end than my old dxr15s and sounds more defined..just tested it out stand alone will test it with my etx15sp over the weekend...so far im amazed of the sound quality and output from a 12" box.....

wow, these new jbls may be the new go to speaker if it's like that , i think it has to do with being in a wood box vs plastic


that and the bigger voice coil...i did my research on them and it was between the dsr12 and the srx812p and man those forums didn't lie the srx812p sound incredible...i could just imagine what the 15's sound like...
JDforKing 4:57 PM - 5 May, 2016
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finally got my srx812p and all i can say is OMG!!! i was shocked of the output this 12 inch speaker puts out...the srx812 puts out way more low end than my old dxr15s and sounds more defined..just tested it out stand alone will test it with my etx15sp over the weekend...so far im amazed of the sound quality and output from a 12" box.....

wow, these new jbls may be the new go to speaker if it's like that , i think it has to do with being in a wood box vs plastic


that and the bigger voice coil...i did my research on them and it was between the dsr12 and the srx812p and man those forums didn't lie the srx812p sound incredible...i could just imagine what the 15's sound like...


When i was doing my research trying to choose between the yamaha dxr15 and the rcf hd32a someone told me there is no way the rcf 32a could put out similar bass to the yamaha dxr15. I'm thinking they were very wrong with what you've found with the srx812p.
JDforKing 4:59 PM - 5 May, 2016
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finally got my srx812p and all i can say is OMG!!! i was shocked of the output this 12 inch speaker puts out...the srx812 puts out way more low end than my old dxr15s and sounds more defined..just tested it out stand alone will test it with my etx15sp over the weekend...so far im amazed of the sound quality and output from a 12" box.....


Did you look into the etx12p to go with your etx15sp? What made you choose the jbl srx812?
Joee 4:59 PM - 5 May, 2016
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When i was doing my research trying to choose between the yamaha dxr15 and the rcf hd32a someone told me there is no way the rcf 32a could put out similar bass to the yamaha dxr15. I'm thinking they were very wrong with what you've found with the srx812p.


i agree you have the fd12, in your opinion don't you think it bass's similar to some 15"? i do!

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that and the bigger voice coil...i did my research on them and it was between the dsr12 and the srx812p and man those forums didn't lie the srx812p sound incredible...i could just imagine what the 15's sound like...


i don't remember did you get those srx double 18"? if not i'm sure you will look at them now
SG SOUNDS 5:07 PM - 5 May, 2016
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finally got my srx812p and all i can say is OMG!!! i was shocked of the output this 12 inch speaker puts out...the srx812 puts out way more low end than my old dxr15s and sounds more defined..just tested it out stand alone will test it with my etx15sp over the weekend...so far im amazed of the sound quality and output from a 12" box.....


Did you look into the etx12p to go with your etx15sp? What made you choose the jbl srx812?


yes i did wanted the etx12p to match but many threads i read had the srx812p sounding better than them by far....im glad i took the advice...in the 12" range the dsr12s and the srx812p is highly recommended...the srx however puts out more lower end than the dsr12s...
Joee 5:09 PM - 5 May, 2016
this make me think, ev zxa5 vs jbl srx715??????
SG SOUNDS 5:09 PM - 5 May, 2016
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When i was doing my research trying to choose between the yamaha dxr15 and the rcf hd32a someone told me there is no way the rcf 32a could put out similar bass to the yamaha dxr15. I'm thinking they were very wrong with what you've found with the srx812p.


i agree you have the fd12, in your opinion don't you think it bass's similar to some 15"? i do!

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that and the bigger voice coil...i did my research on them and it was between the dsr12 and the srx812p and man those forums didn't lie the srx812p sound incredible...i could just imagine what the 15's sound like...


i don't remember did you get those srx double 18"? if not i'm sure you will look at them now


yes i did get them and using them with my etx35p.....amazing sound output....i want to trade out my etx35p for the srx835p but haven't found anyone to buy them yet...but as of now im happy how they sound with the srx828p..
Joee 5:13 PM - 5 May, 2016
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When i was doing my research trying to choose between the yamaha dxr15 and the rcf hd32a someone told me there is no way the rcf 32a could put out similar bass to the yamaha dxr15. I'm thinking they were very wrong with what you've found with the srx812p.


i agree you have the fd12, in your opinion don't you think it bass's similar to some 15"? i do!

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that and the bigger voice coil...i did my research on them and it was between the dsr12 and the srx812p and man those forums didn't lie the srx812p sound incredible...i could just imagine what the 15's sound like...


i don't remember did you get those srx double 18"? if not i'm sure you will look at them now


yes i did get them and using them with my etx35p.....amazing sound output....i want to trade out my etx35p for the srx835p but haven't found anyone to buy them yet...but as of now im happy how they sound with the srx828p..


i think you may eventually in up with every speaker in the srx active series …..lol

you already have the 12" the double 18" you want to get the 3 way, all you need is the single 18" and the 15"
JDforKing 5:14 PM - 5 May, 2016
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When i was doing my research trying to choose between the yamaha dxr15 and the rcf hd32a someone told me there is no way the rcf 32a could put out similar bass to the yamaha dxr15. I'm thinking they were very wrong with what you've found with the srx812p.


i agree you have the fd12, in your opinion don't you think it bass's similar to some 15"? i do!




Yes similar but you can tell that it struggles once you getting it cranking. It might be the smaller amp than the other hd models
JDforKing 5:24 PM - 5 May, 2016
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finally got my srx812p and all i can say is OMG!!! i was shocked of the output this 12 inch speaker puts out...the srx812 puts out way more low end than my old dxr15s and sounds more defined..just tested it out stand alone will test it with my etx15sp over the weekend...so far im amazed of the sound quality and output from a 12" box.....


Did you look into the etx12p to go with your etx15sp? What made you choose the jbl srx812?


yes i did wanted the etx12p to match but many threads i read had the srx812p sounding better than them by far....im glad i took the advice...in the 12" range the dsr12s and the srx812p is highly recommended...the srx however puts out more lower end than the dsr12s...


Damn, the jbl srx812p is 58lbs. That's heavy for a 12.
SG SOUNDS 5:25 PM - 5 May, 2016
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When i was doing my research trying to choose between the yamaha dxr15 and the rcf hd32a someone told me there is no way the rcf 32a could put out similar bass to the yamaha dxr15. I'm thinking they were very wrong with what you've found with the srx812p.


i agree you have the fd12, in your opinion don't you think it bass's similar to some 15"? i do!

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that and the bigger voice coil...i did my research on them and it was between the dsr12 and the srx812p and man those forums didn't lie the srx812p sound incredible...i could just imagine what the 15's sound like...


i don't remember did you get those srx double 18"? if not i'm sure you will look at them now


yes i did get them and using them with my etx35p.....amazing sound output....i want to trade out my etx35p for the srx835p but haven't found anyone to buy them yet...but as of now im happy how they sound with the srx828p..


i think you may eventually in up with every speaker in the srx active series …..lol

you already have the 12" the double 18" you want to get the 3 way, all you need is the single 18" and the 15"


lol nah wont get the single 18 or the 15...ill keep the srx812p etx15sp set up for small gigs and the srx828sp etx35p for big gigs.....if i could get someone to buy mt etx35p ill sell them and get the srx835p
Rebelguy 9:04 PM - 5 May, 2016
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Damn, the jbl srx812p is 58lbs. That's heavy for a 12.


The cabinet is huge as well. It puts out a lot of bass but it's almost the size of a 15 inch cabinet.
Johnnynights 9:05 PM - 5 May, 2016
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looking at the specs the srx puts out way more spl out of the 3

i wouldn't put too much faith into those printed specs :)


that was discussed alot in prosound forum...its real but not out the box brand new because of the pre set limiters jbl programed them to be...why jbl did this? thats the big question on the pro sound forum...you have to dial into them with the audio architect software to get the max output out of the srx boxes...

I agree with you

What settings you using if you dont mind me asking?


The preset limiters from factory comes pre set at -10...in the audio architect you can bump the limiters up getting more spl out of them...dont know why jbl preset them like that...

Mmm i havent really messed with limiter settings but will give it a try im using a srx815

I only used a few eq settings but honestly i like how they sound out of the box,even though people say they need eq.
SG SOUNDS 11:18 PM - 5 May, 2016
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looking at the specs the srx puts out way more spl out of the 3

i wouldn't put too much faith into those printed specs :)


that was discussed alot in prosound forum...its real but not out the box brand new because of the pre set limiters jbl programed them to be...why jbl did this? thats the big question on the pro sound forum...you have to dial into them with the audio architect software to get the max output out of the srx boxes...

I agree with you

What settings you using if you dont mind me asking?


The preset limiters from factory comes pre set at -10...in the audio architect you can bump the limiters up getting more spl out of them...dont know why jbl preset them like that...

Mmm i havent really messed with limiter settings but will give it a try im using a srx815

I only used a few eq settings but honestly i like how they sound out of the box,even though people say they need eq.


you are right out the box they do sound awesome i only mess with the presets for outdoor events to get more spl out...indoors they are more than enough with the factory presets
SG SOUNDS 11:21 PM - 5 May, 2016
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Damn, the jbl srx812p is 58lbs. That's heavy for a 12.


The cabinet is huge as well. It puts out a lot of bass but it's almost the size of a 15 inch cabinet.


yh they are a little big for a 12 inch...the handles on top sure helps alot...im able to move them with no problem at all
pdidy 12:29 AM - 6 May, 2016
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this make me think, ev zxa5 vs jbl srx815??????

According to RIDDIMNBLUES it will beat the ZXA5 because the srx815 specs are real with limiter adjustments. A consumer grade speaker that's louder than a zxa5 ? That's saying something.
Ev ZXA5 - 133 dB
jbl srx815 - 136dB
Joee 12:56 AM - 6 May, 2016
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this make me think, ev zxa5 vs jbl srx815??????

According to RIDDIMNBLUES it will beat the ZXA5 because the srx815 specs are real with limiter adjustments. A consumer grade speaker that's louder than a zxa5 ? That's saying something.
Ev ZXA5 - 133 dB
jbl srx815 - 136dB

and the list price is cheaper than the zxa5, it's looking good for the srx715 active
pdidy 12:58 AM - 6 May, 2016
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this make me think, ev zxa5 vs jbl srx815??????

According to RIDDIMNBLUES it will beat the ZXA5 because the srx815 specs are real with limiter adjustments. A consumer grade speaker that's louder than a zxa5 ? That's saying something.
Ev ZXA5 - 133 dB
jbl srx815 - 136dB

and the list price is cheaper than the zxa5, it's looking good for the srx715 active

srx815 not 715
Joee 1:27 AM - 6 May, 2016
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this make me think, ev zxa5 vs jbl srx815??????

According to RIDDIMNBLUES it will beat the ZXA5 because the srx815 specs are real with limiter adjustments. A consumer grade speaker that's louder than a zxa5 ? That's saying something.
Ev ZXA5 - 133 dB
jbl srx815 - 136dB

and the list price is cheaper than the zxa5, it's looking good for the srx715 active

srx815 not 715

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ev zxa5 list for $1,699

jbl srx 815 list for $1,399---> www.agiprodj.com
Scully DJ Services 3:55 AM - 6 May, 2016
Whats the Joee price for the 812?
Joee 1:10 PM - 6 May, 2016
i havent priced them? i wouldn't know
Taipanic 4:57 PM - 6 May, 2016
I wouldn't buy the ZXa5s new these days without an updated DSP amp. If you need the absolute volume it can put out either buy two extra 60 degree tops or some higher end passive tops with a DSP amp. Personally, I don't think the extra 1-2 db tradeoff is a dealbreaker these days, I don't run mine that hard due to the risk of $300 driver replacements, learned from others overdriving my system.
SG SOUNDS 5:01 PM - 6 May, 2016
Never heard the srx815 but in sure its twice as loud as the srx812 which sounds incredible with plenty low end....i would guess the srx815 is a zxa5 with protection...too much protection if you ask me
DJ Val-BKNY11203 10:18 PM - 6 May, 2016
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I wouldn't buy the ZXa5s new these days without an updated DSP amp. If you need the absolute volume it can put out either buy two extra 60 degree tops or some higher end passive tops with a DSP amp. Personally, I don't think the extra 1-2 db tradeoff is a dealbreaker these days, I don't run mine that hard due to the risk of $300 driver replacements, learned from others overdriving my system.


Why buy 2 more speakers when he can just get a Driverack and set the limiter?
Asu 1:20 AM - 7 May, 2016
Home Depot has a foldable $25 dolly that can handle upto 95lbs...I use that to move my caster less sub around...casters take up some room if you have a smaller car...every DJ should have that foldable dolly...also easily moves your DJ coffin or turntables using the provided strap
Arjun B 7:11 AM - 7 May, 2016
Was reading up on the JBL SRX815p, and I saw on the spec sheet that the Crossover frequency is set at 2000hz. Shouldn't it be much lower, since the HF Driver is much bigger and more capable? Ex. The RCF HD32A has a 3" HF driver aswell, but the crossover is set at 800Hz.
Arjun B 4:24 PM - 7 May, 2016
Now i'm stuck between buying 2x SRX835P / 2x SRX812p vs 2x DSR112 / 2x DSR115.

The JBL's went on sale, and so i've been seriously considering them because they're more affordable now.

Any thoughts? Is it worth spending more money on the JBL series and getting the 3 way? I've read nothing but good things about Yamaha but have heard mostly good but some mixed things about JBL.

Having a speaker buying crisis right now...
DJ gsr 5:52 PM - 7 May, 2016
I vote on 835 if weight and price is not an issue. Load as hell together with pair of sub.
SG SOUNDS 12:37 PM - 8 May, 2016
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i haven't seen one bad review on the srx835p
SG SOUNDS 12:56 PM - 8 May, 2016
did a birthday party last night with my new srx812 and my etx15 subs and i couldn't be happier with my purchase...it was very hard to part from my DXR15's but my new set up kills it with little effort

the party was about 150-200 people and i had clean clear powerful sounds pumping all night..i didn't use the dsp from the speakers i dialed in everything from my new qsc touchmix16 mixer.. the touchmix 16 is a bad ass mixer it almost does everything the dbx driverack does and more...the touchmix16 needs a thread of its own

one thing i must say the difference in low end between the dxr15 and the srx812 is its like the srx is pushing out the bass with little effort while the dxr's is working hard to push out the bass..coupled with my etx subs the srx812 makes a small compact and powerful system
DJ gsr 3:05 PM - 8 May, 2016
srx comparable with dsr , prx with dxr .
Rebelguy 8:48 PM - 8 May, 2016
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did a birthday party last night with my new srx812 and my etx15 subs and i couldn't be happier with my purchase...it was very hard to part from my DXR15's but my new set up kills it with little effort

the party was about 150-200 people and i had clean clear powerful sounds pumping all night..i didn't use the dsp from the speakers i dialed in everything from my new qsc touchmix16 mixer.. the touchmix 16 is a bad ass mixer it almost does everything the dbx driverack does and more...the touchmix16 needs a thread of its own

one thing i must say the difference in low end between the dxr15 and the srx812 is its like the srx is pushing out the bass with little effort while the dxr's is working hard to push out the bass..coupled with my etx subs the srx812 makes a small compact and powerful system


The Touchmix 16 is a nice mixer but it doesn't really do anything that the driverack does. It doesn't offer AFS, Auto EQ, crossover or RTA.
Just1Fixxx 11:36 PM - 8 May, 2016
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I wish someone would start one. I've been looking at the TM16 pretty hard.
pdidy 1:14 PM - 9 May, 2016
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I wish someone would start one. I've been looking at the TM16 pretty hard.

It's an excellent mixer, its so good that it can even do the job of my dbx driverack pa2 at small events when I want to travel light.
pdidy 1:20 PM - 9 May, 2016
QSC Touchmix 16 in Pelican 1495 Case.
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Arjun B 1:21 PM - 9 May, 2016
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It's an excellent mixer, its so good that it can even do the job of my dbx driverack pa2 at small events when I want to travel light.

Is it even worth looking at the Behringer X18 or the Soundcraft Ui16 then? or should I look into the TouchMix16 and forget the others..
I've heard good things about both (more so about QSC), but some bad things about the Soundcraft Ui16
pdidy 1:36 PM - 9 May, 2016
both the Behringer X18 and Soundcraft Ui16 are ipad/tablet reliant and For many dj's Behringer is not even an option.. the qsc touchmix can be controlled with or without an ipad and is very small.
Rebelguy 2:35 PM - 9 May, 2016
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It's an excellent mixer, its so good that it can even do the job of my dbx driverack pa2 at small events when I want to travel light.

Is it even worth looking at the Behringer X18 or the Soundcraft Ui16 then? or should I look into the TouchMix16 and forget the others..
I've heard good things about both (more so about QSC), but some bad things about the Soundcraft Ui16


I would say that it really depends on your needs. My question to you would be how many channels do you really need? The Behringer's have a better effects selection, a precision limiter and automixing (pretty helpful if you are doing talking head events and wedding ceremonies). The XR12, 16, 18 and X18 are tablet dependent but Android tablets are pretty cheap nowadays. For these units the Android versions of the software are better than the iOS version. You could realistically pick up two of the XR12s, two tablets and a router for the price of a Touchmix 16.

The Soundcraft line is fine if you know its limits. If you are using condenser mics then you will notice some noisy preamps. The built-in router is iffy so you will need an external router. The units also have issues with Apple routers but any other brand should be fine. With these units you get built in feedback suppression. They work with any tablet or OS via HTML 5.

The Touchmix does have a built-in screen but if you want to walk the room to adjust levels or mix a show from out in the crowd you will still need a tablet.
Just1Fixxx 5:57 PM - 9 May, 2016
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the touchmix16 needs a thread of its own


I wish someone would start one. I've been looking at the TM16 pretty hard.

It's an excellent mixer, its so good that it can even do the job of my dbx driverack pa2 at small events when I want to travel light.


In what way does it serve as a Driverack Lite for you... the limiters, compressors, and setup wizards?

Can you elaborate, please.
DTweed 7:37 PM - 9 May, 2016
I want a pair of SRX812 but my current subs are the JBL PRX 15 subs which weight 4lbs less (at 52lbs) than the 812s. Is it safe to pole mount then on top of my sub? I'm scared they might tip over. Any thoughts or experience mounting tops that's heavier than subs?
Just1Fixxx 8:02 PM - 9 May, 2016
I wouldn't.

You could get heavy duty tripods for the SRX 812's and cluster your subs.
Scully DJ Services 8:07 PM - 9 May, 2016
@DTweed Why get such powerful tops to go with those little subs?
DTweed 8:12 PM - 9 May, 2016
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My QSC k10 don't always keep up with the prx 15" subs and I plan on getting the srx 818 so I figured I could use the 812s in situations where I need more top headroom but not crazy amounts of bass. I live in a 2 story walk up so every lb counts.
Mr.Jace 8:49 PM - 9 May, 2016
I've heard the srx815p for the first time Saturday, just the tops alone, no sub. Helped a friend set it up for Dj show playing music for a 40th birthday in a mid sized hall. Guessing around 80 to 100 people. I have to say, i was very impressed. Great low end, the highs were crisp. Very clean sounding. After the night was over, during taking down the speakers, we noticed one of the control knobs were missing from input 2 on one of the cabs, main volume knob was partially out. I'm not sure if anybody here had this experience with these tops, but the control knobs falls out. We pushed back in the main volume knob, then grabbed the control knob and pulled it and it slides out easily. The bass must have vibrated the control knob out the back, me, and the dj looked around the floor and couldn't find it. He has returned it and got another one. Just keep in mind the control knobs are not glued or snugged tight. Just thought I'd give heads up on that.
pdidy 11:23 PM - 9 May, 2016
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In what way does it serve as a Driverack Lite for you... the limiters, compressors, and setup wizards?

Can you elaborate, please.

All of the basic settings and features that the driverack can automatically do by entering your speaker model can be manually done and saved with the qsc touchmix.

The touchmix has 6 aux + 2 main outputs that can be configure anyway you choose.
Limiter for all 6 aux + 2 main outputs.
Compressor for all 16 channels & outputs.
EQ for all 16 channels & 8 outputs.
Frequency cut for feedback.
A high/low pass filter can be assigned to all 8 outputs individually for any frequency to act as crossover.

This covers all the basics a mobile dj would use in a driverack.

But as mush as I love the touchmix16 its probably overkill in regards to features and $$$ for the average dj's use.
DJKayce 11:50 PM - 9 May, 2016
@ pdidy.

All of the basic settings and features that the driverack can automatically do by entering your speaker model can be manually done and saved with the qsc touchmix.

The touchmix has 6 aux + 2 main outputs that can be configure anyway you choose.
Limiter for all 6 aux + 2 main outputs.
Compressor for all 16 channels & outputs.
EQ for all 16 channels & 8 outputs.
Frequency cut for feedback.
A high/low pass filter can be assigned to all 8 outputs individually for any frequency to act as crossover.

This covers all the basics a mobile dj would use in a drive rack.

Dose the smaller touchMix(8) has all these functions?
More especially the cover functions.
DJKayce 11:51 PM - 9 May, 2016
*** Xover functions not cover. typo above.
pdidy 11:59 PM - 9 May, 2016
Yes all features are exactly the same the only difference is the amount of channels and outputs.
DJKayce 1:20 AM - 10 May, 2016
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Thnx
Just1Fixxx 2:59 AM - 10 May, 2016
No "talk back" in the 8, correct?
Just1Fixxx 3:09 AM - 10 May, 2016
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But as mush as I love the touchmix16 its probably overkill in regards to features and $$$ for the average dj's use.


Probably overkill for me too (most of the time) but I will be setup to do sounds for bands again with a board like this. Honestly, the Studio Live boards look much more comforting to me... but I do not want that big of a board for the majority of my gigs, which are DJ/Karaoke gigs.
pdidy 3:48 AM - 10 May, 2016
QSC TOUCHMIX 8 &16 DISSCUSSION

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Johnnynights 12:46 AM - 11 May, 2016
Just a update.. the jbl srx815p(the one that went bad on me) like i mention on top

Jbl sent me a new speaker which is pretty good from the warranty they have..the place i took it to said my amp was no good they also said that jbl didnt have the replacement for that part so thats why they sent me a new speaker..

Good warranty from jbl in my opinion i have heard bad stuff from other companies just wanted to share =)
pdidy 2:04 AM - 11 May, 2016
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Good warranty from jbl in my opinion i have heard bad stuff from other companies just wanted to share =)

True Story, A peice of gear I own from JBL partially malfunctioned after 1 years use. So I call jbl (not expecting any real help) and explain the issue and without hesitation the guy says "No problem Sir, I'm sending you a total replacement but give me a second while I check our stock, please hold.......So im like wow, i didnt even get a chance to bitch and complain and they didn't interrogate me ?

......Sir it seems that the item in our warehouse comes in sets of 2 in a box and we don't open boxes to separate them so im just going to send you 1 EXtra for FREE......What ? GTFOOH ?

No problem I will happily take the FREE item but where do I send the malfunctioning item ? The guy from JBL said....."Naaa, just KEEP IT, Im sure you can still use it". What ? GTFOOH ? www.reactiongifs.com ( its true, its still very usable)

So im thinkin NO Fuckin way but my item arrived in a few days PLUS one free item in the same box......Its shit like that, that will make you a happy costumer.
SG SOUNDS 11:53 AM - 11 May, 2016
Just got 2 more srx828p subs yesterday...now i have as much sub output as my retired yorkies..im set on subs as of now...glad to hear about the quality costumer service post above^
JDforKing 12:14 PM - 11 May, 2016
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Just got 2 more srx828p subs yesterday...now i have as much sub output as my retired yorkies..im set on subs as of now...glad to hear about the quality costumer service post above^



What type of events do you do where you need that much sound?
SG SOUNDS 12:39 PM - 11 May, 2016
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Just got 2 more srx828p subs yesterday...now i have as much sub output as my retired yorkies..im set on subs as of now...glad to hear about the quality costumer service post above^



What type of events do you do where you need that much sound?


soca/dancehall/reggae events....it could be anything from live performances from atriste ti carnival events to outdoor beach events to small house party's....soca and reggae dancehall is a type of music that the fans love to hear loooouuudddd!!
JDforKing 12:52 PM - 11 May, 2016
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Just got 2 more srx828p subs yesterday...now i have as much sub output as my retired yorkies..im set on subs as of now...glad to hear about the quality costumer service post above^



What type of events do you do where you need that much sound?


soca/dancehall/reggae events....it could be anything from live performances from atriste ti carnival events to outdoor beach events to small house party's....soca and reggae dancehall is a type of music that the fans love to hear loooouuudddd!!


Very familiar with that. I live in Florida and use to dj Caribbean parties in college and have attended miami carnival on occasions.
pdidy 5:14 PM - 11 May, 2016
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Just got 2 more srx828p subs yesterday...now i have as much sub output as my retired yorkies..im set on subs as of now...glad to hear about the quality costumer service post above^

Great I'll be expecting pictures and video ::)
Johnnynights 10:22 PM - 11 May, 2016
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Good warranty from jbl in my opinion i have heard bad stuff from other companies just wanted to share =)

True Story, A peice of gear I own from JBL partially malfunctioned after 1 years use. So I call jbl (not expecting any real help) and explain the issue and without hesitation the guy says "No problem Sir, I'm sending you a total replacement but give me a second while I check our stock, please hold.......So im like wow, i didnt even get a chance to bitch and complain and they didn't interrogate me ?

......Sir it seems that the item in our warehouse comes in sets of 2 in a box and we don't open boxes to separate them so im just going to send you 1 EXtra for FREE......What ? GTFOOH ?

No problem I will happily take the FREE item but where do I send the malfunctioning item ? The guy from JBL said....."Naaa, just KEEP IT, Im sure you can still use it". What ? GTFOOH ? www.reactiongifs.com ( its true, its still very usable)

So im thinkin NO Fuckin way but my item arrived in a few days PLUS one free item in the same box......Its shit like that, that will make you a happy costumer.

Dam i would have been really happy too lol

But yes now that i see how the jbl warranty is we are in good hands,things like this makes them good because they care for there customers.
Johnnynights 10:26 PM - 11 May, 2016
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Just got 2 more srx828p subs yesterday...now i have as much sub output as my retired yorkies..im set on subs as of now...glad to hear about the quality costumer service post above^

I been wanting to hear those srx828p lol

I use a ls801p but im looking into those srx828p to make my whole set jbl but im curious if they put out more output vs the yorkie?
Arjun B 5:15 AM - 12 May, 2016
If you type in "bassboss subwoofer comparison" in google images, you can see 3 graphs side by side. 1 graph compares alot of subwoofers, 1 compares the SP118 to the JBL subs and the last compares the SP118 to the KW181's. You can try and probably match the SP118 response from both graphs and try to get a better understanding of how the Yorkvilles go up against the JBL srx828's.
Arjun B 5:23 AM - 12 May, 2016
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I use a ls801p but im looking into those srx828p to make my whole set jbl but im curious if they put out more output vs the yorkie?
By the looks of it, the JBL's are just as good in the 60 - 80Hz range as the Yorkies, but overpower them by anywhere from 3 - 12dB in the lower frequencies 60Hz or lower (up to . Ex. the JBL's are 12dB louder than the Yorkies at 28Hz (yorkies fall off here @ 105dB volume, JBL's are at about 118dB @ 28Hz). JBL's also go 10Hz lower than yorkies before they fall off significantly.

JBL SRX828sp >> Yorkville LS800p/801p
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Yeah those are the graphs, just didn't know how to quote the links of the graphs into the forum.
DJZed 11:05 PM - 13 May, 2016
Has anyone played around with the limiter settings?
1. Is the parameter for the limiter threshold labelled as "Level Max Gain Threshold"? It's the only parameter I found in the error reporting that had a -10dB preset like the limiter supposedly has, so I assume it is, but I'd love to get a confirmation.
2. Has anyone actually tried fooling around with it? I'm a bit nervous as I don't want to blow a driver, but I'm curious as to why it's set so low, and if I can raise the threshold without worrying about blowing a driver (Do I only have to work about the SRX series clipping, or could I ruin a speaker with just limiting?)

Thanks in advance! :)
Arjun B 5:43 AM - 14 May, 2016
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Has anyone played around with the limiter settings?

I second this question ^^
SELECT 2:50 PM - 25 May, 2016
Ive played out with the RCF at a couple of events now so I definitely have more of a feel for them.

RCF 735a tops - www.rcf.it

Pros: Lightweight, I cant pick them up with one had. It makes them easy to pole mount and just moving them around from car, gig, home, etc. Excellent for mobile DJ work. They bump, full range with boost on I can do an event without a sub. Its not any louder than any other speakers Ive had, but they definitely sound stronger. The bass is really nice for two tops. They take an enormous amount of input. I have to turn them up past noon just to get them to flinch and that is with my master on the 62 all the way up. I now leave them at around 2-3 oclock. This is a huge plus as I know I wont ever blow them and I feel confident they will be workhorses with minimal issues.

Cons: Not really a con, but they dont spread out and fill the room like some other speakers Ive had, its more direct in front of crowd. The dispersion doesn't seem as wide as I thought they would be. Still though I got compliments on my sound at the end of the night. They do the job and bump hard in front that's for sure.

RCF 708as subwoofer- www.rcf.it

Pros: Lightweight, really surprised its an 18 in sub. Its lighter than my 15inch ETX sub. Great for transporting now that I got the casters! Had to call RCF and they told me which ones to get- www.kpodj.com Now I can move them in and out of my apartment, stairs and to and from car. My rock and roller has all my other equipment on it and I just push the sub in front. Easy and less trips during set up and breakdown time. Sweet! It takes a lot of input depending on how you configure it. Hits harder in front than my ETX.

Cons: Doesnt sound as good or spread out like my 15 in ETX sub. At the same venue last year the 15in ETX I could hear and feel outside the venue, the RCF I could barely. The dispersion is very different. The ETX 15 sounds like a much bigger sub and its heavier I might add, beefier in a lot of ways. The RCF 708 feels very light and cheaper compared to it. Still tho on the dance floor it adds some nice bottom end.

Overall I'm very happy with the tops because with boost on they definitely sound like a much bigger speaker and hit harder without any limiting issues like my previous ETX 12 inch tops. It is a great mobile DJ speaker. Not the best sounding/dispersion, but definitely a workhorse from my experience so far. The sub I'm ok with, happy with the weight and honestly it just adds some nice bottom to the tops. If it were heavier I'd be mad, but since its lightweight it gets a pass.

I literally played with the tops w/boost and bottom full range 120hz at the prom I just did and it worked great. 300 kids and I got compliments on the sound in particular the bass.

Quick vid, not at full volume and very short, next prom is in two weeks and Im taking a lot of video at that one. I'll be doing a full youtube review then.
vid66.photobucket.com

ETX & 708 sub side by side- ETX is lower, wider and heavier.
i66.photobucket.com
DJ Tracktion 4:47 PM - 25 May, 2016
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Ive played out with the RCF at a couple of events now so I definitely have more of a feel for them.

RCF 735a tops - www.rcf.it

Pros: Lightweight, I cant pick them up with one had. It makes them easy to pole mount and just moving them around from car, gig, home, etc. Excellent for mobile DJ work. They bump, full range with boost on I can do an event without a sub. Its not any louder than any other speakers Ive had, but they definitely sound stronger. The bass is really nice for two tops. They take an enormous amount of input. I have to turn them up past noon just to get them to flinch and that is with my master on the 62 all the way up. I now leave them at around 2-3 oclock. This is a huge plus as I know I wont ever blow them and I feel confident they will be workhorses with minimal issues.

Cons: Not really a con, but they dont spread out and fill the room like some other speakers Ive had, its more direct in front of crowd. The dispersion doesn't seem as wide as I thought they would be. Still though I got compliments on my sound at the end of the night. They do the job and bump hard in front that's for sure.

RCF 708as subwoofer- www.rcf.it

Pros: Lightweight, really surprised its an 18 in sub. Its lighter than my 15inch ETX sub. Great for transporting now that I got the casters! Had to call RCF and they told me which ones to get- www.kpodj.com Now I can move them in and out of my apartment, stairs and to and from car. My rock and roller has all my other equipment on it and I just push the sub in front. Easy and less trips during set up and breakdown time. Sweet! It takes a lot of input depending on how you configure it. Hits harder in front than my ETX.

Cons: Doesnt sound as good or spread out like my 15 in ETX sub. At the same venue last year the 15in ETX I could hear and feel outside the venue, the RCF I could barely. The dispersion is very different. The ETX 15 sounds like a much bigger sub and its heavier I might add, beefier in a lot of ways. The RCF 708 feels very light and cheaper compared to it. Still tho on the dance floor it adds some nice bottom end.

Overall I'm very happy with the tops because with boost on they definitely sound like a much bigger speaker and hit harder without any limiting issues like my previous ETX 12 inch tops. It is a great mobile DJ speaker. Not the best sounding/dispersion, but definitely a workhorse from my experience so far. The sub I'm ok with, happy with the weight and honestly it just adds some nice bottom to the tops. If it were heavier I'd be mad, but since its lightweight it gets a pass.

I literally played with the tops w/boost and bottom full range 120hz at the prom I just did and it worked great. 300 kids and I got compliments on the sound in particular the bass.

Quick vid, not at full volume and very short, next prom is in two weeks and Im taking a lot of video at that one. I'll be doing a full youtube review then.
vid66.photobucket.com

ETX & 708 sub side by side- ETX is lower, wider and heavier.
i66.photobucket.com


Nice!

I'm bout to pull the trigger on a pair of hd 32-a's and the 708as subs. (also the art 708 and 702as sub for a small/backup/ceremony/monitor system).

Thanks for the review
Certified Quality Entertainment 7:06 PM - 25 May, 2016
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Ive played out with the RCF at a couple of events now so I definitely have more of a feel for them.

RCF 735a tops - www.rcf.it

Pros: Lightweight, I cant pick them up with one had. It makes them easy to pole mount and just moving them around from car, gig, home, etc. Excellent for mobile DJ work. They bump, full range with boost on I can do an event without a sub. Its not any louder than any other speakers Ive had, but they definitely sound stronger. The bass is really nice for two tops. They take an enormous amount of input. I have to turn them up past noon just to get them to flinch and that is with my master on the 62 all the way up. I now leave them at around 2-3 oclock. This is a huge plus as I know I wont ever blow them and I feel confident they will be workhorses with minimal issues.

Cons: Not really a con, but they dont spread out and fill the room like some other speakers Ive had, its more direct in front of crowd. The dispersion doesn't seem as wide as I thought they would be. Still though I got compliments on my sound at the end of the night. They do the job and bump hard in front that's for sure.

RCF 708as subwoofer- www.rcf.it

Pros: Lightweight, really surprised its an 18 in sub. Its lighter than my 15inch ETX sub. Great for transporting now that I got the casters! Had to call RCF and they told me which ones to get- www.kpodj.com Now I can move them in and out of my apartment, stairs and to and from car. My rock and roller has all my other equipment on it and I just push the sub in front. Easy and less trips during set up and breakdown time. Sweet! It takes a lot of input depending on how you configure it. Hits harder in front than my ETX.

Cons: Doesnt sound as good or spread out like my 15 in ETX sub. At the same venue last year the 15in ETX I could hear and feel outside the venue, the RCF I could barely. The dispersion is very different. The ETX 15 sounds like a much bigger sub and its heavier I might add, beefier in a lot of ways. The RCF 708 feels very light and cheaper compared to it. Still tho on the dance floor it adds some nice bottom end.

Overall I'm very happy with the tops because with boost on they definitely sound like a much bigger speaker and hit harder without any limiting issues like my previous ETX 12 inch tops. It is a great mobile DJ speaker. Not the best sounding/dispersion, but definitely a workhorse from my experience so far. The sub I'm ok with, happy with the weight and honestly it just adds some nice bottom to the tops. If it were heavier I'd be mad, but since its lightweight it gets a pass.

I literally played with the tops w/boost and bottom full range 120hz at the prom I just did and it worked great. 300 kids and I got compliments on the sound in particular the bass.

Quick vid, not at full volume and very short, next prom is in two weeks and Im taking a lot of video at that one. I'll be doing a full youtube review then.
vid66.photobucket.com

ETX & 708 sub side by side- ETX is lower, wider and heavier.
i66.photobucket.com



Not to side track the convo but are those your uplights or the venues? If yours which are they?
SELECT 7:55 PM - 25 May, 2016
Those were my uplights. I control/change the colors from the flarecon app on my iphone. Wireless and super bright. I only have 8 now, but plan on getting more soon.

www.chauvetdj.com

www.pssl.com
Certified Quality Entertainment 8:38 PM - 25 May, 2016
Nice. I know there are a lot of Chinese branded ones like that. Didn't know how bright they are but apprently pretty bright.
Rebelguy 9:43 PM - 25 May, 2016
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The Chinese knock-offs I have seen are definitely not as bright as the Chauvets. There are a lot of other China branded lights that do blow them away but they are not as compact as the Freedom line.
Certified Quality Entertainment 3:06 AM - 26 May, 2016
Interesting. The ones I'm researching seem pretty good. The space factor is a pretty big selling point for me. I found another type that is close (little bigger). But about $600 more for a set of 12 so deciding if it's worth it.
Arjun B 2:31 AM - 1 June, 2016
Just wanted to chime in,

FInally caved in and bought 2 SRX835's with 2 SRX812's. Love them so far, really loud but still maintain a nice clarity and presence. The 812 pumps a lot more than what I expected for the cab, and remains very clear. Kinda annoyed that the speakers don't have an illuminated logo or light of some sort. Would've been nice to see when the speaker was limiting through a light or logo illumination on the front of the speaker. The logo looks like it lights up, maybe I just don't know how?

The 835 is a beast of its own. The cabinet is much bigger than I expected for a 3-way when compared to the PRX735. Crossed over at 80Hz and used with a double 18" (or single 18" even), this would be one insane 4-way setup that would shit on others setups for days.

Was looking at the Yamaha DSR and EV ETX series prior to buying, and ETX didn't sound right because of the 1.25" HF driver. It just bothered me, and I was seriously considering getting the Yamaha DSR speakers, but upgrading to the JBLs wasn't that much more expensive so I made the jump.

I just wanted to ask, could anyone guide me through how to use the SRXConnect app? I've used the AudioArchitect program with no problem, just connected the speakers to a ethernet hub that was also connected to a laptop via the ethernet connection, but I can't figure out how to use the app through wifi and connect to the speakers.

Also, I remember someone mentioned that you can change the -10dB factory limiter in the SRX800 series to something less, and get more power out of the speaker? Could someone confirm this to be true or false, and walk me through it if it is true?

I've officially jumped boat from Yorkville Elite mains & EV ZLX sidefills to JBL's all around, and couldn't be happier. Also downgraded my monitor from a yorkville nx750p to the Mackie SRM450v1 and couldn't be happier. Since it's for monitor use, I would take the SRM450v1 over the Nx750p anyday. I don't know why people don't like the SRM450v1. With its italian construction and RCF parts, its a solid speaker.
DJ Stoyvo 4:26 AM - 1 June, 2016
I believe the speakers need to be connected to a wireless router, then you can connect via the wireless signal from your laptop
Arjun B 3:11 AM - 11 June, 2016
Used my SRX812p's at an event a week ago. Great speakers, nice and clean.

The only things I noticed that I had to put the speakers on the 'Consumer' level input instead of 'Line'. I was running my mixer levels high but the speaker output wasn't much. Putting them to Consumer gave me a better gain stage to work with. I personally also felt that the high end was a little lacking, so I gave it some high freq. boost in HiQnet and it gave me the warmth and clarity I was looking for. They sound similar to the SRX835's now after the EQ. Also rolled of all of the Low Frequencies lower than 30ish Hz.
DJZed 9:44 PM - 21 June, 2016
So I just got off the phone with a reputable JBL technician. I discussed the limiter settings with him, and he said that there's no way to change the internal limiter for the 800p series. So, does that mean that people who are changing the limiter settings in AudioArchitect are only changing the threshold to which it notifies one when the speaker is limiting, even though the limiter is doing whatever it's programmed to do?
pdidy 12:40 AM - 22 June, 2016
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Hmmm, well that's interesting because there are a few users here claiming up to 6db additional output when tweaking the limiter, Somebody gotta be wrong ?
DJZed 3:08 AM - 22 June, 2016
I'm confused, too. He "confirmed" what I expected: the limiters are manufacturer set and untouchable (probably because they're only a mid-tier box.) He said there was a reason the engineers set the limits to what it is (he said it was presumably because it didn't pass the "100 hour test" that JBL uses to test their drivers.
I'm also extremely baffled as to why would they limit their product but show the extra headroom. Why not just cover it up? LevelMax kicks in at the same point as the output limiter (-10dB), which means there has to be at least a bit of extra headroom, otherwise why have LevelMax in the first place?
pdidy 3:25 AM - 22 June, 2016
I personally have never had the opportunity to dig in and tweak its settings so I got nothin :)
Rebelguy 4:01 AM - 22 June, 2016
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I'm confused, too. He "confirmed" what I expected: the limiters are manufacturer set and untouchable (probably because they're only a mid-tier box.) He said there was a reason the engineers set the limits to what it is (he said it was presumably because it didn't pass the "100 hour test" that JBL uses to test their drivers.
I'm also extremely baffled as to why would they limit their product but show the extra headroom. Why not just cover it up? LevelMax kicks in at the same point as the output limiter (-10dB), which means there has to be at least a bit of extra headroom, otherwise why have LevelMax in the first place?


Have you read this discussion?

forums.prosoundweb.com
DJZed 4:10 AM - 22 June, 2016
I have, there was a bit of information that I missed the first couple of times, so thanks. But it still seems like people are on the fence about if changing things around is safe, and if the compressor make-up gain technique that is referred to in the thread is genuine and innocuous.
Rebelguy 9:30 PM - 22 June, 2016
I guess your question was answered...

"I don't own the SRX828p, but I own the SRX812P as well as larger Crown/JBL gear. There are two "problems" with the SRX800P series boxes:

1. They have a low input sensitivity/preamp gain so it takes a lot of signal to get them to full output. This is a JBL "thing" - the rest of the pro gear defaults to 26dB amp gain, which requires running your desk near the red for full output. The first thing I do on my ITechs is to change this to the much more normal 32dB setting. On the SRX812P this is easy to do, as there are two input level knobs - one on the input channel, and the other is the master knob, which goes to +6dB. Furthermore, you can change the input type from "line" to "consumer", which gives you another 11dB of preamp gain.

2. They reveal too much of the man behind the curtain in software. If JBL only showed hard limiting instead of soft limiting, most of the whiners would go away. There isn't a problem being a little bit into the limiters - sound quality isn't affected until limiting is pretty significant.

I understand from other users' experience that the subs are not quite as easy to add gain to, which leads to creative solutions with limiter make up gain. That's fine and will definitely make the subs appear louder, but I agree with the JBL tech that it won't give you more output than if you just fed the box with a hotter signal.

The SRX800 series boxes are "low-end pro" boxes, and are setup like the big stuff. IMO that was pretty foolish on JBL's part, because for those who haven't worked with the higher-end stuff, they seem to compare poorly to other comparable boxes that default to higher sensitivity/preamp gain and hide some of the limiting settings, but it is what it is. I will say that I love my boxes. They make a STINKING LOT of noise for their size and sound fantastic. The price drop is just gravy."
DJ SL1 7:06 PM - 22 July, 2016
So I've asked this before but since there are more ppl here what would be better 1 srx828sp or 2 prx718xlf?
pdidy 9:53 PM - 22 July, 2016
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So I've asked this before but since there are more ppl here what would be better 1 srx828sp or 2 prx718xlf?

better portability, Scalability, versatility = 2 prx718xlf

better features, sound quality, louder = 1 srx828sp
desmorider 1:14 AM - 23 July, 2016
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So I've asked this before but since there are more ppl here what would be better 1 srx828sp or 2 prx718xlf?

better portability, Scalability, versatility = 2 prx718xlf

better features, sound quality, louder = 1 srx828sp



Word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats the price of the two prx's? The 828 can be had for under $1600. If you have the help, or can move it yourself, and have a vehicle to carry it, I vote 828.
Rebelguy 2:16 AM - 23 July, 2016
PRX718 prices have been all over the place the past few weeks. I am assuming they are discontinuing the 700 series and the 800 will be coming soon.
Just1Fixxx 1:17 PM - 23 July, 2016
Ya, PAS had a sale yesterday on the 712 for for $409 and the 715 for $499 (both new).
DJ SL1 3:38 PM - 23 July, 2016
Damn I wish I knew I got mine from zzounds. And they told me to go with 2 prx718 instead of one srx828 bc 2 separate amps w a total or more watts per speaker
desmorider 5:12 PM - 23 July, 2016
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Damn I wish I knew I got mine from zzounds. And they told me to go with 2 prx718 instead of one srx828 bc 2 separate amps w a total or more watts per speaker



We tried telling you
DJ SL1 7:19 PM - 23 July, 2016
I meant price wise I been bought them before I asked anything
Asu 11:27 AM - 25 July, 2016
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Ya, PAS had a sale yesterday on the 712 for $409 and the 715 for $499 (both new).


Those are amazing prices...too bad i bought my 715's last year...they are very loud and clear speakers with excellent lows with a properly tweaked drive rack.
DJZed 2:52 PM - 25 July, 2016
Anyone think JBL will release a 10" cabinet? I'd love it if they did--the series has great LF extension as is, a 10" shouldn't be too bad, plus it'd save some weight.
DJ SL1 3:39 PM - 25 July, 2016
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Anyone think JBL will release a 10" cabinet? I'd love it if they did--the series has great LF extension as is, a 10" shouldn't be too bad, plus it'd save some weight.


what kind of gig would you use those for?
DJ SL1 3:43 PM - 25 July, 2016
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DJZed 3:56 PM - 25 July, 2016
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Anyone think JBL will release a 10" cabinet? I'd love it if they did--the series has great LF extension as is, a 10" shouldn't be too bad, plus it'd save some weight.


what kind of gig would you use those for?


I have subs so I don't really have a need for a 12" or a 15", I wouldn't mind shaving some money and weight as I'm sure a 10" would still outrun the subs anyways.

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ProAudioStar. They're a musical equipment sales company that specializes in DJ/Live Sound equipment.
DTweed 5:42 PM - 25 July, 2016
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Ya, PAS had a sale yesterday on the 712 for $409 and the 715 for $499 (both new).


Those are amazing prices...too bad i bought my 715's last year...they are very loud and clear speakers with excellent lows with a properly tweaked drive rack.



+1 on the 715s they bump for the gigs that i do and they're super light. I have two of them.
DJ SL1 6:34 PM - 25 July, 2016
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Anyone think JBL will release a 10" cabinet? I'd love it if they did--the series has great LF extension as is, a 10" shouldn't be too bad, plus it'd save some weight.


what kind of gig would you use those for?

I have subs so I don't really have a need for a 12" or a 15", I wouldn't mind shaving some money and weight as I'm sure a 10" would still outrun the subs anyways.





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ProAudioStar. They're a musical equipment sales company that specializes in DJ/Live Sound equipment.



Yea my PRX 715 out dues my sub. I think instead of getting my second 718xlf ill just get the 1 srx828sp and the 718 can just stay at home until i need extra

Thanks I just went there the prices are the same as where i got my equipment
DJ SL1 6:58 PM - 25 July, 2016
where else can i find these speakers cheap and instock so i can make this place credit me the difference
DJ SL1 3:32 PM - 26 July, 2016
Thanks for letting me know they were cheaper i called the company and had them give me credit for the price difference although not that cheap since they couldnt match discontinued items
Rebelguy 9:50 PM - 26 July, 2016
So they are officially discontinued?
DJ SL1 1:53 AM - 1 August, 2016
I meant to say sold out items in sure they are getting there tho with al these price drops
Asu 11:37 AM - 1 August, 2016
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I'm thinking about grabbing a pair of 718XLF's...PSSL has 'em for $899....with a drive rack, they don't sound that different from the new SRX818SP sub :-)
DJ SL1 12:50 PM - 1 August, 2016
Guitar center had them for 849
Asu 1:41 PM - 1 August, 2016
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cool i'll check it out...got some gear to trade too lol
Dj-Ali 2:56 PM - 14 August, 2016
Does the JBL srx815p LCD screen turn off or does it just dim?
Asu 11:21 AM - 15 August, 2016
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Does the JBL srx815p LCD screen turn off or does it just dim?


i know the EV's i have just dim...can't turn them off
Dj-Ali 3:26 PM - 15 August, 2016
Okay I found out they just dim.
Johnnynights 6:35 PM - 11 February, 2017
You guys that own the srx818sp how you guys liking it?

I recently picked up a jbl prx818 xlf for real cheap but was thinking of either keeping it and getting another one or selling it to get the pair of srx818 since im going to use it with my srx815 tops that way ill be using all srx even though i wouldnt mind running srx tops with prx bottoms..
DJFree 3:55 PM - 21 February, 2017
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You guys that own the srx818sp how you guys liking it?

I recently picked up a jbl prx818 xlf for real cheap but was thinking of either keeping it and getting another one or selling it to get the pair of srx818 since im going to use it with my srx815 tops that way ill be using all srx even though i wouldnt mind running srx tops with prx bottoms..

I just got the 812's to match the 818's....with the SRX top/sub mode I'm really loving it. Out of the box the 812's are so much better than the PRX 712's. Clarity/Throw pretty amazing. The tops and subs work great together I think you should go the SRX route and read this forum for tips forums.prosoundweb.com
Rebelguy 5:07 PM - 21 February, 2017
I'm debating about going the Yamaha DSR112 route. Every review I've read puts it at a tie with the SRX812p minus some low end. Plus they are $400 cheaper and 13 lbs lighter.
DJFree 6:05 PM - 21 February, 2017
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I'm debating about going the Yamaha DSR112 route. Every review I've read puts it at a tie with the SRX812p minus some low end. Plus they are $400 cheaper and 13 lbs lighter.

Yes but the low end standalone is important to me for 50 person gigs in small rooms. Plus already having the 818's made it a no brainer for me....the weight is not bad at all IMO...and I definitely didn't pay the 1299 retail.
Rebelguy 6:40 PM - 21 February, 2017
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I'm debating about going the Yamaha DSR112 route. Every review I've read puts it at a tie with the SRX812p minus some low end. Plus they are $400 cheaper and 13 lbs lighter.

Yes but the low end standalone is important to me for 50 person gigs in small rooms. Plus already having the 818's made it a no brainer for me....the weight is not bad at all IMO...and I definitely didn't pay the 1299 retail.


Im not knocking your decision. I had a chance to gig with the 812Ps for a few weekends. They are great sounding boxes. It's just that I currently have cabinets that are 60lbs and a bit smaller that I wanted to lighten the load up. It made no sense to go to a box that was the same weight and substantially larger when the Yamahas were comparable sound quality, lighter and still a lot cheaper.

For gigs of 50 people the Yamahas would have no problem covering the bass.

I'm also going to be changing my subs. I am also considering the 818s because of their lower weight. I'm not that concerned with the cabinet brands matching.
DJFree 6:48 PM - 21 February, 2017
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I'm also going to be changing my subs. I am also considering the 818s because of their lower weight. I'm not that concerned with the cabinet brands matching.

Got ya. That makes perfect sense. The 818's are cool....but overall I like the tops better in the line. Although after using the makeup gain they were referring to on ProSoundWeb they're pretty damn good. The 818's don't have a lot of weight but I really hate how they have the handles placed.
SG SOUNDS 1:05 AM - 22 February, 2017
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Got ya. That makes perfect sense. The 818's are cool....but overall I like the tops better in the line. Although after using the makeup gain they were referring to on ProSoundWeb they're pretty damn good. The 818's don't have a lot of weight but I really hate how they have the handles placed.


Just use both inputs on the jbl812 and send it a hot signal that way you wouldn't need to use the make up gain method...I love my jbl812's, used it this weekend at a backyard party at about 60 people and the bass response was amazing.. I left my SUBS home and was more than impressed...
DJFree 1:37 AM - 22 February, 2017
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Just use both inputs on the jbl812 and send it a hot signal that way you wouldn't need to use the make up gain method...I love my jbl812's, used it this weekend at a backyard party at about 60 people and the bass response was amazing.. I left my SUBS home and was more than impressed...

Well the makeup gain I'm using is for the subs....the tops are plenty loud....although some guys over there were complaining about the tops limiting fast so they use the makeup gain for the tops. Do you run your tops on Line or Consumer?
SG SOUNDS 4:14 AM - 22 February, 2017
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Just use both inputs on the jbl812 and send it a hot signal that way you wouldn't need to use the make up gain method...I love my jbl812's, used it this weekend at a backyard party at about 60 people and the bass response was amazing.. I left my SUBS home and was more than impressed...

Well the makeup gain I'm using is for the subs....the tops are plenty loud....although some guys over there were complaining about the tops limiting fast so they use the makeup gain for the tops. Do you run your tops on Line or Consumer?


I run dem Line mode...I have read running them Consumer mode give you extra dub
Johnnynights 6:46 AM - 22 February, 2017
Im running my srx815p at +6db on them i only the limit barely but when i use subs no limit lights.

What settings you guys running them?

Also im using a pioneer ddj sx2.
Johnnynights 6:48 AM - 22 February, 2017
@DJFree thanks for the help ima look into those forums =)
SG SOUNDS 11:14 AM - 22 February, 2017
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Im running my srx815p at +6db on them i only the limit barely but when i use subs no limit lights.

What settings you guys running them?

Also im using a pioneer ddj sx2.


I run my input signal at 0 and master at 0..when I need more db I turn the master to 6b..I run a xlr input to channel one then out from channel one the input of channel 2, I learned this trick from the pro sound forums and I get more db this way....the make up gain method that they talk about in the prosound forums also gives you more db especially in the SUBS but you ca get similar results by running a hot signal from your mixer and turning the master knob on the speakers all the way up as stated in the pro sound forum..

I pre set my eq from the Audio Architect software and save them on the speakers preset settings...once you save the settings, the next time you turn the speakers on the settings is stored in back of dsp display....you can save up to 30 different settings for different environments, that's what I love about these speakers...
pdidy 1:16 PM - 22 February, 2017
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......I run a xlr input to channel one then out from channel one the input of channel 2, I learned this trick from the pro sound forums and I get more db this way....

link please.
Taipanic 3:34 PM - 22 February, 2017
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I'm debating about going the Yamaha DSR112 route. Every review I've read puts it at a tie with the SRX812p minus some low end. Plus they are $400 cheaper and 13 lbs lighter.


Recently picked up a pair of the Yamaha DSR112s. Sound great, very clear, amps stay very cool even with no fan, haven't had them to clipping levels at any gig yet. I always plan to use them with subs but they aren't bad in full range mode with the D-Contour enabled. Bass is OK, not super deep or loud but it isn't really designed to be. Nice coating on the cabinets, don't like the single handle on top but they are not terribly heavy so it's tolerable.
Rebelguy 5:14 PM - 22 February, 2017
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I'm debating about going the Yamaha DSR112 route. Every review I've read puts it at a tie with the SRX812p minus some low end. Plus they are $400 cheaper and 13 lbs lighter.


Recently picked up a pair of the Yamaha DSR112s. Sound great, very clear, amps stay very cool even with no fan, haven't had them to clipping levels at any gig yet. I always plan to use them with subs but they aren't bad in full range mode with the D-Contour enabled. Bass is OK, not super deep or loud but it isn't really designed to be. Nice coating on the cabinets, don't like the single handle on top but they are not terribly heavy so it's tolerable.


Thanks for the info. Now I just need to decide on which subs to use them with.
Joee 8:43 PM - 22 February, 2017
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Thanks for the info. Now I just need to decide on which subs to use them with.

if you don't have anything against bandpass box's? give the dxs18 a listen

it is impressive for it's price & surprisingly it was easy to move around
Taipanic 9:33 PM - 22 February, 2017
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Recently picked up a pair of the Yamaha DSR112s. Sound great, very clear, amps stay very cool even with no fan, haven't had them to clipping levels at any gig yet. I always plan to use them with subs but they aren't bad in full range mode with the D-Contour enabled. Bass is OK, not super deep or loud but it isn't really designed to be. Nice coating on the cabinets, don't like the single handle on top but they are not terribly heavy so it's tolerable.


Thanks for the info. Now I just need to decide on which subs to use them with.


They do get very loud. I've only used them with my Yorkville LS800p, you would want two of them in any decent sized space if turned up. I have smaller and larger subs that I haven't used with them yet, when I do I'll drop some feedback.
SG SOUNDS 4:02 AM - 8 March, 2017
So I finally saved some money to finally purchased maybe 3 Danley th18 subs but now these Bassboss Subs just had to come throw a wrench in the mix....Have anybody heard the Bassboss ssp18 or the zv18? The zv18 model is very similar in specs with the danley's and even goes lower....I could get 4 of the ssp18 at a great price but just wanted more feedback on these Bassboss subs.
pdidy 6:57 AM - 8 March, 2017
If a hi majority of the music that you play does not go below 30 Hz you will not see much benefit from the zv18 so as great as it is I would still cross it off the list.

If portability is your priority then the ssp118 is the way to go.

But I'm pretty sure 3 properly powered th18's should easily beat 4 ssp118's in output but it won't go as low in the 30-40hz range. It's a trade off.

So do you NEED to go lower or louder ?
SG SOUNDS 12:41 PM - 8 March, 2017
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If a hi majority of the music that you play does not go below 30 Hz you will not see much benefit from the zv18 so as great as it is I would still cross it off the list.

If portability is your priority then the ssp118 is the way to go.

But I'm pretty sure 3 properly powered th18's should easily beat 4 ssp118's in output but it won't go as low in the 30-40hz range. It's a trade off.

So do you NEED to go lower or louder ?


definitely louder I'm guessing just 2 of the danleys alone will surpass my 4 jbl 828 subs in both output and sound quality but I've been seeing a lot great reviews on the Bassboss Subs all over the place...but definitely louder I'm looking to go...Those who have the danleys are you running them powered or passive?
pdidy 1:53 PM - 8 March, 2017
Bassboss ssp118 vs jbl 828 bassboss.discussion.community
Rebelguy 3:35 PM - 8 March, 2017
If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com
Taipanic 3:54 PM - 8 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.
J Hennessy 9:22 PM - 8 March, 2017
Would you say the TH118 is superior to the PG118 for live sound or just more cost efficient? If you had the PG118 could you replicate the sound of a TH118 with DSP and limiting?
SG SOUNDS 9:58 PM - 8 March, 2017
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yh I seen this earlier I've kinda scratched the Bassboss off my mind and I'm gonna go with the Danleys just trying to decide which will be better for me powered or non powered..If I go non powered what amp can I get to push 2 with no problems? or even 4
SG SOUNDS 10:01 PM - 8 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.


Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?
SG SOUNDS 10:03 PM - 8 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.


Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


Oh and I play soca and dancehall reggae will the orbit shifters be more suited than the danleys for that type of music?
Rebelguy 10:11 PM - 8 March, 2017
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Would you say the TH118 is superior to the PG118 for live sound or just more cost efficient? If you had the PG118 could you replicate the sound of a TH118 with DSP and limiting?


There's a lot of good info in both of these threads...

forums.prosoundweb.com

forums.prosoundweb.com
Asu 12:56 AM - 9 March, 2017
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My understanding is that the newer PG118 is an overall better product but the TH118's is still an excellent option.

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the cheaper option is a pair of QSC PL380's for 4. With 2400W RMS in stereo on each channel...118 only needs 1700W for 137db....6db shy of peak SPL.
J Hennessy 6:28 AM - 9 March, 2017
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Would you say the TH118 is superior to the PG118 for live sound or just more cost efficient? If you had the PG118 could you replicate the sound of a TH118 with DSP and limiting?


There's a lot of good info in both of these threads...

forums.prosoundweb.com

forums.prosoundweb.com


Thanks, those were a good read.
Taipanic 7:20 AM - 9 March, 2017
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Would you say the TH118 is superior to the PG118 for live sound or just more cost efficient? If you had the PG118 could you replicate the sound of a TH118 with DSP and limiting?

The PG118 is more expensive. Bigger box and Sentinel protection to keep you from frying your driver. It is also optimized more for EDM than the TH118. Can't go wrong with either, but for a DJ looking for the best, I'd go with the PG series.
Taipanic 7:30 AM - 9 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.


Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


I picked up a pair of passive cabinets used I found on Ebay the night before I was going to order new powered cabs. I am currently using a Crown XTI6002 for processing and power though I plan to upgrade that at some point. My cabs were configured for 2 ohms so the XTI can put out over 3000 watts per channel, though I have them properly limited & protected. They go for 1800 passive, 3100 powered (4k watt Speaker Power DSP plate amp) and Jeff offers discounts for each additional product purchased.There's also a new, smaller sub coming out plus the original Growlers, which pack a big punch when used in multiples.
SG SOUNDS 2:29 PM - 9 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.


Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


I picked up a pair of passive cabinets used I found on Ebay the night before I was going to order new powered cabs. I am currently using a Crown XTI6002 for processing and power though I plan to upgrade that at some point. My cabs were configured for 2 ohms so the XTI can put out over 3000 watts per channel, though I have them properly limited & protected. They go for 1800 passive, 3100 powered (4k watt Speaker Power DSP plate amp) and Jeff offers discounts for each additional product purchased.There's also a new, smaller sub coming out plus the original Growlers, which pack a big punch when used in multiples.


I got quoted for $4912 for a pair of the th118 and $9434 for the powered shiped..I'm waiting for a quote from Jeff for the Orbit Shifters...I think I would rather feel safer going passive seeing that the weather here in south florida is very unpredictable, had problems with my srx828 at outdoor gigs were rain would come all of a sudden out of no were and had to turn them off...
Taipanic 4:29 PM - 9 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.


Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


I picked up a pair of passive cabinets used I found on Ebay the night before I was going to order new powered cabs. I am currently using a Crown XTI6002 for processing and power though I plan to upgrade that at some point. My cabs were configured for 2 ohms so the XTI can put out over 3000 watts per channel, though I have them properly limited & protected. They go for 1800 passive, 3100 powered (4k watt Speaker Power DSP plate amp) and Jeff offers discounts for each additional product purchased.There's also a new, smaller sub coming out plus the original Growlers, which pack a big punch when used in multiples.


I got quoted for $4912 for a pair of the th118 and $9434 for the powered shiped..I'm waiting for a quote from Jeff for the Orbit Shifters...I think I would rather feel safer going passive seeing that the weather here in south florida is very unpredictable, had problems with my srx828 at outdoor gigs were rain would come all of a sudden out of no were and had to turn them off...


Riddim, I see you're in Florida, if you want to run up to the Tampa area I could demo the Orbit Shifter & Noesis 3TX for you.
SG SOUNDS 4:51 PM - 9 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.[/quote

Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


I picked up a pair of passive cabinets used I found on Ebay the night before I was going to order new powered cabs. I am currently using a Crown XTI6002 for processing and power though I plan to upgrade that at some point. My cabs were configured for 2 ohms so the XTI can put out over 3000 watts per channel, though I have them properly limited & protected. They go for 1800 passive, 3100 powered (4k watt Speaker Power DSP plate amp) and Jeff offers discounts for each additional product purchased.There's also a new, smaller sub coming out plus the original Growlers, which pack a big punch when used in multiples.


I got quoted for $4912 for a pair of the th118 and $9434 for the powered shiped..I'm waiting for a quote from Jeff for the Orbit Shifters...I think I would rather feel safer going passive seeing that the weather here in south florida is very unpredictable, had problems with my srx828 at outdoor gigs were rain would come all of a sudden out of no were and had to turn them off...


Riddim, I see you're in Florida, if you want to run up to the Tampa area I could demo the Orbit Shifter & Noesis 3TX for you.


Im in miami probably on one of my days off i could just fly up there ( i work for the airlines) ill pm you and let you know if i decide to do that..
Rebelguy 9:57 PM - 9 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.[/quote

Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


I picked up a pair of passive cabinets used I found on Ebay the night before I was going to order new powered cabs. I am currently using a Crown XTI6002 for processing and power though I plan to upgrade that at some point. My cabs were configured for 2 ohms so the XTI can put out over 3000 watts per channel, though I have them properly limited & protected. They go for 1800 passive, 3100 powered (4k watt Speaker Power DSP plate amp) and Jeff offers discounts for each additional product purchased.There's also a new, smaller sub coming out plus the original Growlers, which pack a big punch when used in multiples.


I got quoted for $4912 for a pair of the th118 and $9434 for the powered shiped..I'm waiting for a quote from Jeff for the Orbit Shifters...I think I would rather feel safer going passive seeing that the weather here in south florida is very unpredictable, had problems with my srx828 at outdoor gigs were rain would come all of a sudden out of no were and had to turn them off...


Riddim, I see you're in Florida, if you want to run up to the Tampa area I could demo the Orbit Shifter & Noesis 3TX for you.


Im in miami probably on one of my days off i could just fly up there ( i work for the airlines) ill pm you and let you know if i decide to do that..


If you have the airline hook up you might as well fly to the Danley headquarters and get a legitimate demo from them.
DJ GaFFle 4:55 AM - 10 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.


Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


I picked up a pair of passive cabinets used I found on Ebay the night before I was going to order new powered cabs. I am currently using a Crown XTI6002 for processing and power though I plan to upgrade that at some point. My cabs were configured for 2 ohms so the XTI can put out over 3000 watts per channel, though I have them properly limited & protected. They go for 1800 passive, 3100 powered (4k watt Speaker Power DSP plate amp) and Jeff offers discounts for each additional product purchased.There's also a new, smaller sub coming out plus the original Growlers, which pack a big punch when used in multiples.


I got quoted for $4912 for a pair of the th118 and $9434 for the powered shiped..I'm waiting...

Waiting for WHAT??? $4912 for a pair of new TH-118's is cheap! I don't think dealers are suppose to sell those that low. I've been away from the game for a minute so things must have changed.
SG SOUNDS 1:24 PM - 10 March, 2017
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If you want lower and louder just get the Danley PG118.

www.danleysoundlabs.com


The PG series also have Danley's Sentinel Protection built in, a nice feature the TH-118 doesn't have. They are also optimized for Dance/EDM type playback. Also, don't rule out the JTR Orbit Shifters. Sound great, built great, crazy amount of output, equal or better sounding for prerecorded dance music, passive or powered, probably at least a grand cheaper per cab. I was on the fence between the OS and the Danley, ended up with the JTRs after talking to several who have used both for DJ type work. I have not been disappointed in my purchase. If I were doing live music often I probably would have went with the TH-118s.


Yh I'm gonna take a hard look at the orbit shifters also...how much are they going for and which one did you get powered or non powered? also are you using a drive rack with them?


I picked up a pair of passive cabinets used I found on Ebay the night before I was going to order new powered cabs. I am currently using a Crown XTI6002 for processing and power though I plan to upgrade that at some point. My cabs were configured for 2 ohms so the XTI can put out over 3000 watts per channel, though I have them properly limited & protected. They go for 1800 passive, 3100 powered (4k watt Speaker Power DSP plate amp) and Jeff offers discounts for each additional product purchased.There's also a new, smaller sub coming out plus the original Growlers, which pack a big punch when used in multiples.


I got quoted for $4912 for a pair of the th118 and $9434 for the powered shiped..I'm waiting...

Waiting for WHAT??? $4912 for a pair of new TH-118's is cheap! I don't think dealers are suppose to sell those that low. I've been away from the game for a minute so things must have changed.


Waiting for Jeffs quote from JTR...Anyway he got back to me yesterday $1799 for the passive $2999 for powered...So its decision time...Most of the people I talked to and forums online that either have both speakers or heard both say the OS hits harder and even goes lower when coupled together..Many say they prefer the Danleys with certain types of music or they prefer the OS with certain types of music..the majority seems to be EDM DJ's, i play soca and dancehall reggae were we like it to hit loud and hard..

DJ GaFFle yes that's the quote I got from my dealer, the same dealer that hooked me up with my srx828 subs for $1550 each brand new...I know you own the th118 subs if I decide to go that route passive do you think a qsc pl380 and a venue360 could make the danleys smile? The powered option is tempting for both the danleys and the OS but for outdoor gigs here in Florida the rain is always unpredictable..
SG SOUNDS 1:33 PM - 11 March, 2017
Made up my mind and im gonna go with the JTL OS...4 of the passive boxes for $6784 shipped 😊😊😊....now its on to looking for a good power amp and a venue360 or a ashley protea...thanks for all the helpful info guys..
desmorider 4:21 PM - 11 March, 2017
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Made up my mind and im gonna go with the JTL OS...4 of the passive boxes for $6784 shipped 😊😊😊....now its on to looking for a good power amp and a venue360 or a ashley protea...thanks for all the helpful info guys..



Nice. What leaned you in that direction? How do you transport your gear?
DJ Guayo 1:10 AM - 12 March, 2017
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Made up my mind and im gonna go with the JTL OS...4 of the passive boxes for $6784 shipped 😊😊😊....now its on to looking for a good power amp and a venue360 or a ashley protea...thanks for all the helpful info guys..

Congrats!!! Pics and videos please
SG SOUNDS 6:33 PM - 12 March, 2017
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Made up my mind and im gonna go with the JTL OS...4 of the passive boxes for $6784 shipped 😊😊😊....now its on to looking for a good power amp and a venue360 or a ashley protea...thanks for all the helpful info guys..



Nice. What leaned you in that direction? How do you transport your gear?


More output for outdoor gigs...dont get me wrong now the srx subs sound superb and i probably could of gotten the output i wanted for outdoors by just adding more subs..The srx rig is a excellent sounding rig gor the price you pay, its entry to med tour grade equipment.The Orbit Shifters will give me optimum bass with less speakers without breaking a sweat..Also going back to a passive setup will be more versatile for me..
Taipanic 1:55 AM - 13 March, 2017
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Made up my mind and im gonna go with the JTL OS...4 of the passive boxes for $6784 shipped 😊😊😊....now its on to looking for a good power amp and a venue360 or a ashley protea...thanks for all the helpful info guys..


Congrats, you won't be disappointed. If you get good, high end amps you will not need the Venue360, all of the processing & protection is built in.
My current faves:
Danley DNA 20k
Linea Research 44M20
Powersoft K20
Crown ITech HD Series

Expensive, but worth it. Fastest processing for the best quality sound and multiple levels of protection from overheating, overdriving, etc... You could buy one 4 channel amp listed above and some cheaper amps for backup if the budget is tight. I'm currently using an XTI6002 on my Orbit Shifters and they sound great but I have read time and time again how much more they'll come alive with a better amp so I plan to upgrade at some point myself, plus I want the additional layers of protection that is in the newer DSP amps.
SG SOUNDS 1:59 AM - 13 March, 2017
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Made up my mind and im gonna go with the JTL OS...4 of the passive boxes for $6784 shipped 😊😊😊....now its on to looking for a good power amp and a venue360 or a ashley protea...thanks for all the helpful info guys..


Congrats, you won't be disappointed. If you get good, high end amps you will not need the Venue360, all of the processing & protection is built in.
My current faves:
Danley DNA 20k
Linea Research 44M20
Powersoft K20
Crown ITech HD Series

Expensive, but worth it. Fastest processing for the best quality sound and multiple levels of protection from overheating, overdriving, etc... You could buy one 4 channel amp listed above and some cheaper amps for backup if the budget is tight. I'm currently using an XTI6002 on my Orbit Shifters and they sound great but I have read time and time again how much more they'll come alive with a better amp so I plan to upgrade at some point myself, plus I want the additional layers of protection that is in the newer DSP amps.


Thanks for the helpful info bro..im looking at the powersoft k10...tyring to get as much info as i can before i pull the trigger on one of these high end amps
Taipanic 2:27 PM - 13 March, 2017
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Made up my mind and im gonna go with the JTL OS...4 of the passive boxes for $6784 shipped 😊😊😊....now its on to looking for a good power amp and a venue360 or a ashley protea...thanks for all the helpful info guys..


Congrats, you won't be disappointed. If you get good, high end amps you will not need the Venue360, all of the processing & protection is built in.
My current faves:
Danley DNA 20k
Linea Research 44M20
Powersoft K20
Crown ITech HD Series

Expensive, but worth it. Fastest processing for the best quality sound and multiple levels of protection from overheating, overdriving, etc... You could buy one 4 channel amp listed above and some cheaper amps for backup if the budget is tight. I'm currently using an XTI6002 on my Orbit Shifters and they sound great but I have read time and time again how much more they'll come alive with a better amp so I plan to upgrade at some point myself, plus I want the additional layers of protection that is in the newer DSP amps.


Thanks for the helpful info bro..im looking at the powersoft k10...tyring to get as much info as i can before i pull the trigger on one of these high end amps

Of course, when you get to this level power is a concern. Do you currently use a power distro? You will probably need 30 amps free or more to run the big boy amps hard.
CocoM 4:04 PM - 23 July, 2017
Did someone have a chance to compare SRX818SP with either QSC KW181, JBL SRX718 or Turbosound IQ18B? Would like to know if SRX818SP can achieve same or higher SPL levels compared to those subwoofers (in same conditions). Unfortunately I could find a lot of contradictional reviews on the web.
Rebelguy 4:32 PM - 23 July, 2017
Do a search on prosoundweb. From what I remember reading the 818SP was comparable in output to the KW181 but went lower and sound better. I would think the the 718 would outperform the 818 but you have to deal with running an amp rack. Not sure on the Turbosound.