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Deejdave (me) "Will this bring Thru FX to all the other supported devices?"



Matt P (Serato) "Yeah i can't see why not. its been talked about for ages."

You know, I was going to start a thread exactly like this one. I've also seen the thread that you are citing, Dave, but Matt P. didn't exactly give a "firm" confirmation that the units aside from the AMX will bring Thru EFX. He said, "Yeah, I can't see why not". I would like something more concrete than that if I am to buy the SX2. I just love the idea of having Isotope Effects for use w' my vinyl.....that will be freakin' awesome!!

Yeah i have seen this cited thead as well, i have now bought the expansion pack but cant find a way to make the fx work over my vinyls

Hate to add more to the confusion but he (or someone) also deleted the video he posted showing the AMX has it LOL.

i saw that too! can anyone that caught the video explain what it showed?

I saw it. I showed exactly what you are asking about. FX via the line (or phono) level TT's instead of time code. Just makes me wonder why it was deleted especially since it still says
"It is important to note that these inputs can not be used to send audio thru the Akai AMX as Serato does not currently support passing external audio through the software." On the Akai website to this very day. LMAO

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SOMEONE is NOT dong their job correctly I just don't know who anymore.

Yeah, someone from Serato has to respond to our query. This is important. It's the ONLY reason I am considering purchasing an SX2.

IF this was a possibility I would assume it would impact ALL Serato DVS devices including SL boxes, Rane 900SRT. Rane 64 & DDJ-SZ. ALL of which I have so I should really get on this. To be honest I probably won't get around to it until my PLX-1000's arrive in a week or two. Hopefull in the mean time as blackavenger said a Serato rep could answer as to the CURRENT status of this as well as possibly some insight on future directions.

Well, if it's not available right out the gate, then I won't be buying an SX2. Watching that video of the AMX passing EFX thru to the vinyl in the other thread is the main thing that piqued my interest for the SX2. Sure, the colored pads and native Flip Controls are cool, but not enough to influence a purchase. But having the ability to add Isotope Effects to my vinyl.....man, that is worth a lot to me. I have thought about purchasing a Traktor S4 for this exact functionality, but was hoping that Serato would eventually bring it out. Now I get teased w' this, and all the sudden the video disappears. Damn, I hope it hasn't been dropped as a feature.

I really don't see why it wouldn't work, you can already do it with an SL3/SL4 (work around for post fader effects when using a mixer with no on board effects).

This is the specific comment that Dave and I are talking about........the video has been removed.

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How can you do that? The latency is crazy big!

Come on guys, we know you see this thread. Matt P has an excuse cause he's in Baku, Azerbaijan for the Red Bull Thre3Style World Finals. So him not replying gets a pass. But surely someone else from Serato can chime in and give us a definitive answer, one way or the other.

I dunno .......................... when I travel I think I go on these forums EVEN more as it kind of brings me back "home" LOL.

Okay, Red Bull Thre3Style is over. I would really appreciate a conclusive answer to this.

Will someone from Serato please give us an answer?

Sorry blackavenger, Thru FX is not currently possible with Serato DJ 1.7.0.

I believe there used to be a bug where the software would process the FX independently to the hardware, which meant you could get the hardware in a state that would process the software's FX for any input/signal/thru. This wasn't actually a feature, just a by-product of the bug.

This "bug" is now fixed, which means using software FX in THRU mode is not possible. If you needed to use a previous version of Serato DJ, download here > serato.com

I can see why this would be useful though, your best bet would be to mention a spec change in the feature suggestion area. We have some ideas for THRU related FX, however at this stage I do not have any further information.

Regards

So let me get this straight, I can no longer do this with my SL3??

Try the 1.7.0 version, and let me know your results.

Otherwise you can use an older version of Serato DJ which you can download from the archive link above (1.6.3 for example).

Can you comment on the Akai AMX then? I have been back & forth with one of the guys on your team who says that software Thru IS possible and it also supports FX on the Thru channel.

"The thru option is available only with the dvs expansion pack, with the AMX.

This means you can route audio from the inputs thru the AMX via Serato.

I've had a go myself today at DJ expo as we have them all set up here."

And
"Yep Thru FX works with the AMX and the DVS Expansion pack. I made a little video to show you -

Will this bring Thru FX to all the other supported devices?


Yeah i can't see why not. its been talked about for ages."



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Is this a feature of a future release or something? Otherwise how would this be possible?

Can we have some clarification?

Hi deejdave,


Yes, it is possible to use software FX with the Akai AMX and DVS Expansion Pack.

However, this will not be possible with Rane devices - the internal components are completely different to that of the Akai AMX and route audio in a completely different way. Remember, the AMX is not a soundcard - it uses the software to route the audio, which allows the use of the FX inside Serato DJ.

There might be change to this in the future, however I don't have any comments or information at this stage.

Thanks

Ahhh OK. I believe the actual question (or at least the latest question) was regarding the SX2 and it THAT will support Thru FX. I believe the DDJ-SX does have a sound card correct. So how does this affect things there?

OR if you could possibly spell this out for me. Are units like the Numark NS7II, DDJ-SX2 & DDJ-SZ hardware mixed devices or software mixed devices? I was thinking because you can use the DDJ-SX/SZ etc as independent mixers they are in fact hardware mixed devices.......... right?............ MAybe??? LOL

BTW THANKS for the info on the AMX. After RE-reading the amx product sheet I see it does NOT specifically state that but I can absolutely see you are correct (obviously LOL) and I just NEVER knew that. Makes total sense though.

No, as far as I am aware the DDJ-SX2 will not support Thru FX for external inputs at this stage. Once you switch the hardware from "PC" to "THRU", the controller becomes a internal sound card and therefore can not retrieve FX routing from the software.


They are not hardware mixed devices unless you use them as independent mixers for external inputs (like regular vinyl). So if you are using a DDJ-SX2 to control Serato DJ you can use FX, if you are using it to route external audio (like regular vinyl), you can not use the FX as that channel will now be hardware mixed.

Damn it! That sucks! I guess I am going to have to buy a second hand S4 (or maybe S8) if I want this functionality. Since I only really use Traktor for the Remix Decks, I was hoping that the SX2 would give me THRU EFX. I am not interested in buying a $2,000+ mixer to utilize Serato/Isotope EFX since I rarely even play vinyl anymore. It would have been a nice bonus if the SX2 were capable. I suppose I can put in a feature request.....though I doubt that will gain any traction. Maybe I should just buy a EFX-1000 or RMX-1000 and run it through the master. Fawk, I am disappointed. That AMX made me think that all the hardware that supported the DVS Plugin would behave the same way....oh well.



Even though it was NOT what I wanted to hear, thank you for at least clarifying that for me, Scott.

This is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard!!
If you are able to get a timecode signal from the turntable into the software,
then you CAN route the signal (whether its timecode or audio) through to wherever you want.
I can do this with ease using my SX2 & Traktor!!
DONT make up bullsh*t stories to cover your blatant ignorance. If creating a separate 'LIVE INPUT' button is too difficult for you to do then just say so. What you say is true in the sense that as soon as we flip the "THRU' switch on the SX2 the audio is routed away from the PC. But the fact is that we DONT want to flip that switch there. We want a 'THRU' / 'LIVE INPUT' switch on the GUI. Your statement above is just a nice way saying that you (Serato) are either incapable of / don't want/care to do it.
Perhaps in 6 months time you plan to put another 'thru' expansion pack up for sale, but whatever the reason for your neglect on this, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with our hardware!! If Serato can receive a timecode signal, it can receive our analogue audio too!

So, we are in 2019 now...
I just feel like doing an analog vinyl mix-tape and wanted to use the mixer of my NS7iii.
Is it still not possible to put effects on analog vinyl in Thru-Mode or is it the NS7?

Anyone know if Akai AFX will apply fx to
Regular vinyl. Currently have the akai amx and when set to thru, I can apply fx to regular vinyl through the software. But before considering getting th AFX, would like to know if the AFX will continue to work with set to Thru.

I sold my AFX a while ago, but if the FX work through the AMX trhen adding the AFX shouldn't change the way the FX work.