nothing? are all the speaker/gear whores asleep?........lol

Definitely looks like an excellent speaker. 4" voice coil HF and 3.5" voice coil 15" is much better than what is found in the ZX5A. Wonder what the price point will be though...

Al

not us dollars, but
www.bax-shop.nl

Def looks good. But for sure will have a street price higher than the ZXA I think. I think the 725 right now is higher than the ZXA.
Also, if you look at that speaker shootout thing that Gaffle posted a while back, the ZXA was by far a winner when comparing the 725 and ZXA. So this may be close, perhaps equal, but I think (maybe in the states anyway), the price may be too high and there will be some other options at that point.

maybe not
www.bax-shop.nl
this new rcf has a 4 inch voice coil in the compression driver

^ link fail
www.bax-shop.nl

its ugly tho

they should have went with a full front grill

But it's a Red Dot Design award winner according to their website.

www.rcf.it

Haha.

Well, it's not FBT ugly and at least the design lines are somewhat linear. I have a pair of the RCF408A's which look like the baby brother to these.

In reference to the 745A's... WOW! The only 4" HF VC powered speakers I've ever seen were over $5k each. I would guestimate that these would soundly trounce the ZXA5's. I bet they have a very focused and long throw pattern as well.

(nm)

Eh, I just peeped this... Watchwww.youtube.com

So I would consider my small 408A's cute. In a 15", this thing is sort of a big eye sore.

(nm)

^ and list for less than the zxa5, interesting!

listen if you can give me better sound than a zxa5 for less money......it might be worth it....ugly and all....lol

It's $1789 in US dollars.

is that what it translates to in us dollars?

so $90 more than a zxa5......it's lighter if the sound is equal or better i wouldn't have a problem paying that

I think I'll wait for them to put this 4" HF driver in one of their wooden NX series before I'd take the plunge. That's a pretty low price for what you're getting.

(nm)

They have a 4" HF driver in their new TT-1A, TT-2A and TT-5A speakers. I'm going to guess it's not the same one as those are $4000 and up per cabinet but they have done it already.

Anyone been able to find these state side?

there still pretty new, it might be a while before we see them


i really want to see how they compare to the ev zxa5

I just got word from RCF Corporate (USA) that they should be available in 10 days. We all know how that goes....

if they give zxa5 performance while being 10lbs lighter & cheaper this speaker will be a winner in my book

something smells fishy

maybe someone is eating fish

Which version of the EV zx a5 the 90 x 50 Wide throw or the 60 x 60 Long throw version?

?

the zxa5 i general is a long throw/in your face sounding speaker thanks to the bigger compression drive only difference between the 90x50 & 60x60 is the 60x60 is cans have two speakers per side right next to each other

I believe the more narrow the dispersion, the more of a perceived and focused 'throw'. With that said... I'd only want the 90 degree units. I wouldn't want 4 pole-mounted 60 degree ZXA5's looking at my crowd. Not visually appealing IMO.

only way i would use 2 per side is if there were up high on trussing not speaker stands as you said….ugly

I didn't think of that. Yes, on trussing with 4 speakers would look nice.

Any one heard the RCF 905AS or FBT 15SA. I would like to know how they compare 1 to 1 against a JBL VRX918SP?

Hey, where's that dude who recently bought an RCF745A? I haven't heard any feedback.

i own two 905-as, great sounding 15 sub but not the right match for your zxa5….you can pair them together but you will be pushing the subs to there limit trying to keep up with the volume of the zxa5……but that will be the case for almost any $2,000 and under sub pair with the zxa5……..if you don't intend on running them full volume you should be ok


i heard the fbt sub it sound pretty good for it's size….


i'm waiting on him he wanted to come to philly to do a comparison of the 745 vs the x5

I'll be getting 4 subs to go under the pair of EV zx a5's. Joee so wich sub hits harder your RCF 905 or the FBT 15SA? I already have 2 Yorkville 801's that I don't like to move.

I'm sure someone will suggest 4 etx 15sp.

The EV etx are too heavy for their output. I would rather use a helper & carry 801's

the 15's not the 18's 90lbs with casters

in that case go with the 4 905's it will be a nice match & if the new rcf art 745-as---> www.rcf.it ends up being better than the zxa5 you can sell the x5's and have a complete art 7 series system

the promaxx 15 sub i heard at this years dj expo it hit pretty good in that open air environment

D. J. Shawn Quick are located anywhere near philly? i'll be more than happy to let you hear my 905's

the JBL VRX918SP will outperform the RCF 905AS or FBT 15SA 1 to 1.

i don't think he wants that extra 15lbs!

but yes the vrx918 would be a much better option at only $200 more per box

getting back to the topic of this thread, a RCF rep had this to say when asked to compare the

hd32
art 722
art 745

"Before I even finished what I was saying he blurted out "745, hands down". He owns a sound company and does a bunch of indoor and outdoor events outside of being our rep. He loves the 745s. He said it doesn't sound like you're listening to a plastic box and even outdoors on a windy day the 4" voice coil sounds amazing."

i really need to get my hands on this box to see for myself!

I am still curious as to why the 745s are cheaper than the 722s and why they opted for IEC over powercon.

i am also the price i got on the 745 was cheaper than the 722

your boy with the 722's need the get some 745 and tell us, him or dh jest jam……..lol

The 745a sounds great. I'm going to get up with Joee at some point soon to test it out with the zxa5. He's been available and my work schedule and traveling has been crazy lately. The only thing that I have at my home to compare it to is the kw152, and it blows that out of the water. For some reason I never really liked the sound of the 152's. I'm surprised at the amount of lowend from the 745, and having the horn crossed at 650hz with the 4in voice coil on the horn makes it sound crystal clear and precise. I really want to hear it next to a zxa5 or dsr 15, or promaxx14. I will be ordering the second 745 in the next week or so. I will try to get up with Joee in the next week or so, so that we can test them out. Just have to drive to Philly. Also I don't do the youtube reviews and stuff on speakers, because I don't feel that you are getting a real accurate representation of the speaker. It depends on the microphone used and the computer speakers your listening with.

this sounds very good as one of the main advantages of the zxa5 is the bass it puts out I.E you can do a small part without a sub

Man there's nothing funnier than the youtube audiophile warriors who think they can really determine audio quality over youtube. Even under the best circumstances and tools used which is rare, there will still be arguable flaws.

not always true, this video here does prove how impressive this speaker is
Watchwww.youtube.com

I think that its very funny also. Way too many variables. A waste of time. Speaker sound is like buying a new car. Not everyone likes the same thing, or sound.

Joee, I thought you were going to post this....lol Watchwww.youtube.com
Now these guys do some of the best youtube testing ive ever seen but even with the great tools arguments can be made.

Wooho, i was looking out for reviews past cpl of months while i saved up money. Finally placed an order for one of theese tops now and just cant wait!! Seems like the best buy? :)

One of which tops? ^^^

Haha. I pm'd him same question. No answer yet

One of the famous 745 tops :)

This is also a great youtube video

Watchwww.youtube.com

Thanks for the offer Joee but I pulled the trigger waiting on my pair of Ev zx a5's to arrive. I know they are proven LOUD with out thermal issues. I'll wait for some of you guys to try out the RCF 745's. Back to the subs, Thinking about 4 Ev etx 15sp under the Ev zx a5? If not what does a Yorkville ls608 run with or beat out? 4 of them doesn't hit the pocket as bad as 4 Jbl vrx918sp's.

vrx918sp's can be had for $1,500 each delivered ,etx15sp's around $1,200 each


whats your budget for four subs?

Been trying the 745-a for about 24 hours now, i only have one tho and i havent placed it perfect. just on a table in middle of the room. But oh boy does it sound good. I heard some songs were some cats and babys were included suddenly and it really made me wonder what was going on lol. I see you get the VRX918sp for a cheap buck? Here in europe the JBL sub and the RCF 8004 is the same price. I guess it would be a no brainer for me to buy the rcf 8004?:=) Regards

I could do the jbl vrx but trying not to spend that much how do the yorkville ls608 compare 1 to 1 against the vrx918? I already have 2 ls801's so for a portable setup the 4 ls608's works very well in my budget but how does it compare?

The ls608 is the bass like the 801 the kind that shakes your insides?

Unless you just have money burning a hole in your pocket, buying 4 ls608 is a bad idea if you already own 2 Yorkville ls801p.

The ls608 doesn't compete 1 to 1 with the vrx sub.

btw the ls608 is the passive version so an amp is required.

No money burning but I rent a trailer to load my 801's. My portable for now is 4 EV elx118 & 4 EV zx a1. So I wanted something in equal to a Jbl vrx918 without breaking the bank. That's why I'm asking what do the 608 compare with even though they are no good under 45hz. Anybody had the 608 before???

my advise forget about getting four sub just get two vrx918sp's @$3,000 this is your best option!


portable big sounding sub!


trust me!!!!!!!!!

@ 85lbs this is the best portable sub your gonna find to pair with the zxa5

Just saw the ups notification Zx5's coming tomorrow. I really wanted to try the RCF 745 but without a review & speaker battle I'll pass.

zxa5 is the KING of $1,300 15" speakers, only time will tell if the 745 is better

When I use the Ev zxa5's without a sub do you want to keep the bass @ 12 o clock or what? I got 2 small parties this weekend & I don't want to abuse the woofers on day 1. Where do you set your bass on the mixer? Party for 100? Square room medium ceilings? Thanks in advance.

zxa5 @ 12oclock
mixer Eq @ 12oclock
Mixer output 0db or less aka NO RED lights or peaking.
Keep inexperienced djs who red line off the set.

What about in smaller rooms where 9 or 10 zxa5 is more than enough, would 1-2 be ok on the mixer or just go - mids & highs on mixer? Thanks in advance.

1-2 on mixer for bass??

forget all that, its irrelevant.....just

Btw, I do own zxa5's......i26.photobucket.com and ive learned what it takes to keep them safe or what it takes to blow them. Follow those simple rules and there's no reason to be concerned with anything else.

Thanks. Pdidy how much harder do your 4 vrx918 hit vs 2 of your ls801's outside? I'm thinking about picking up some 918's I like too keep my 801's in storage.

Joee how much harder do your 4 vrx918 hit vs 2 of your ls801's outside?

While 4 vrx subs will go a lil louder than 2 ls801 subs outside, the BIG difference is how much lower the vrx subs can go at that same loud volume.

A few years back i was doing the same thing as you trying to find a light weight solution for smaller gigs so I wont have to bring a ls801p. I did all the sub comparisons and decided to get "1 and only 1" vrx sub for small gigs and I would use the yorks for anything bigger.

I loved the sound but it wasn't loud enough because I was so used to yorkville ls801p, so I brought 1 more and had 2.

Now im addicted to the sound quality of 2 vrx subs so now I want a 3rd so I can get as loud as 2 ls801p so I got # 3. The yorks were still just a lil louder @ 2 vs 3 but the VRX went so much lower it didn't matter.

After getting 3 I was officially addicted to the sound and put my yorks in storage. At this point I realized that there's "no going back" and I now need 4 vrx to totally outpreform 2 yorks in output and sound quality. Plus I need the system to look balanced with 4.

There's no point in having 2 different types of subs that cant play together so one of them had to go.......So my point is if you get 2 VRX it will probably drive you crazy until you get 3 or 4 to beat 2 yorkville ls801p's.

i still stand by the above statement D. J. Shawn Quick you said you wanted four subs & you want the to be compact/more portable get two vrx's than get two more when you have the extra money

or do the same thing with etx15sp subs…..people are actually saying they mistook it for a 18" when they first heard it

Sold! So the power cords can I daisy chain from the EV to the Jbl? & Joee said I can get 2 Vrx918's for $3000 where? Delivered?

around $3,000 check your pm

Pm?

private messages

yes

show him you vid/pics of making the cord

Thanks. Can I see that cord video?

warning if you do eventually get four vrx subs….you may be tempted to buy four vrx tops like in pdidy avatar……there around $2,250 each

D. J. Shawn Quick, did your zxa5's come with these additional cords and connectors ? i26.photobucket.com

Joee I looked at pm you said around $1500 delivered but you never said where? The full vrx stack looks TIGHT! But how would only two cover a room? Separate on sticks? Or what?

Got it so you can go speaker to speaker to outlet.

go back and look at the pm i gave you the guys contact info, again don't expect to pay $1,500 i said around could be 1600 or 1700, you have to contact hime and find out

pdidys avatar shows four not two

powercon cable for daisy chaining.
Watchwww.youtube.com

I see its like speakon.

I like that don't have to worry about them slipping or getting kicked or pulled out.

here's a closer look at the 4 vrx subs at the event in my avatar. Notice the screw driver an wire cutter on subs @ :38 sec , thats because I left a bunch of powercon cables home and needed to make new ones at the gig from spare parts......so its good to know how to make them.
Watchwww.youtube.com

2 vrx subs stacked
Watchwww.youtube.com

somebody take the mic from him…….lol

dude @1:16 were the speakers swaying? scary!

hey this is brooklyn thats what we do....lol

yea the swaying looks crazy but that youtubes video stabilization feature that does that.

Can you get away with plugging in 4 subs & tops to 1 20 amp wall circuit? I heard these don't need a lot of power.

It's dope people are willing to pay good money for quality equipment at these types of events.

No thats the QSC kla Watchwww.youtube.com

Now you can do it but it will trip breakers once you push the system hard. VRX subs an tops are 6amps each so its 3 per 20amp outlet.

Dam that means I'll need to add or upgrade a generator! I got one of the new light weight ones Sine Wave clean power but only 20 amps DAM!

Why ?.......arent your Yorkville subs 6-7 amps ?

Yeah but I use 2 of them outdoors so it would be 4 vrx outside.

oh ok gotha.....lil secret, in the 1st vid I was running 4 subs on one 20amp circuit a everything else on another 20 amp circuit. So it can be done, just not at full power.

Why even mess around with the Vrx? These will solve any and all bass requirements.

www.mccauley.com

Ain't nobody got that kinda money

what pdidy said plus he wants portable sound

@D. J. Shawn Quick use the info i gave you he just hit me back $1,550 for you shipped

what pdidy said plus he wants portable sound

Hey, those neodymium transducers are keeping it under 500 lbs, no problem!

On another note, spent last weekend at EDC Orlando. Using Martin MLX subs and D&B Audiotechnik B2 and J subs put out a very substantial low end. Still feeling bass pump your chest 100+ yards from the stage is impressive. I especially liked the smaller, house oriented stage sound. Very full and driving sound through all the lower bass frequencies.

i heard the 21" rcf sub two of them and was really impressed , i can only imagine what a quad 21" will sound like……..wow

YES! Thanks Joee appreciate that.

The Black Keys are using a D&B system for their current tour. Pretty amazing sounding cabinets when I heard them last week.

stonypointhall.com

^ ay, I'm here to help……plus they also help me!!!!! to get good pricing example swarm for $140……..

Pdidy so with the 4 subs on the one 20amp circuit did you let the breaker trip then back it down on the subs?

read what he said, you won't be running the subs at full power

I read it but did he guess what would be a good limit or did he trip a circuit so he knew where to back down from?

Absolutely not, I would never leave it up to chance......



This is were a tool like the dbx DriveRack® PA2 comes into play. I set the limiter and now we can just play with no worried of someone pushing the system too hard, problem solved.

Most processors and or limiters are capable of this and is not specific to the dbx DriveRack® PA2 but the pa2 is very nice :)

okay. I know how to set the limiter but did you guess where to set your limit at? Or did you just turn the volume up until you felt it was enough then set the limiter?

Well it was not scientific in any way so I guess you can call it an educated guess from experience. So the system played at approximately 75% of its max when properly powered.

But once I set the limiter I tested (abused) the system by trying to force the breakers to trip on the generator but I was happily unsuccessful.

Gotcha.

Got my zxa5's yesterday! Yo they get LOUD! Couldn't turn them up yesterday in my studio in full range, they were just getting warmed up & my ears were ringing.

Welcome to the club! :)

My new Babys!
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We don't care about the boxes.....lol

It's their B-Day I just got em. Lol... Now I'm working on those VRX's! Got enough for 1 but I'm gonna order 2... Thanks to Joee & Pdidy.

don't thank us yet, your gonna want two more..lol

Oh yeah. THANKS A LOT!

and again, you may end up wanting four of these also there about $2,000 each
www.jblpro.com

Man those could be anybody's zxa5 boxes....we need to see the real speakers....lol

Yea I can assure you the last pair will hurt the worst but at that point you can supplement the cost with the sale of the yorkvile 801's because you wont miss or need them at that point..

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I will at least hold on to my 801's until I cop my first pair of vrx 918sp subs & hear em for myself if I'm impressed I'll buy another pair before the Summer.[URL=s46.photobucket.com][IMG]i46.photobucket.com[/IMG][/URL]

Ok cool, didnt no you had the other ev stuff also.

I have the same hazer and possibly the same moving heads..... Watchwww.youtube.com

With the 2nd pair of Vrx918's I'll update the generator because I like to run my system a couple of notches below clipping. I just hate to carry anything heavier espially a generator. I love the look of your 932's over your 918's. Looks MEAN! I'll have to skip a year for those tops my Wife is always home to accept my delivery's. She told me yesterday when I demoed the Zxa5's that she could hear from the 2nd floor that they cost some good money. Well when she see's the subs come, Shit is gonna hit the fan!

Yes Sir! Same heads & fogger. What I might have to do is catch the train down NY to hear that VRX system at a block party or something to see if that will be my New Year's update. Those tops are pricey they would have to shit all over the zx5's or at least throw a lot farther?

Next Year.

I'm surprised you are not suggesting these.

www.rcf.it

Trust me I understand, it took me about 2 years of debating and then crying about the price before i finally got those tops....... but now im happy that its over and done with :)

The zxa5's get pretty loud so there's a good chance you will never need to upgrade to vrx tops.

he getting vrx subs, why would a suggest a rcf top besides them thing are too expensive

Hey Joee I forgot to ask is that price for new or b stock?

new

Thanks...

Look what just came today! Say hello to my little friend! Thanks Joee!

My new bass bottom!
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no problem, how do you like it?

OH SHIT !, you just got a pair of zxa5's now this.......I guess your were serious....lol

Yo this 1 sub crushes all 4 of my portable EV 118's. Crazy! Little hard getting them in my studio. Basement door is about the same width as the VRX. I had to carry it side ways with 1 handle to get it down the steps.

So now that you own a vrx and a yorkville ls801p, what do you think of my findings in the.....

Speaker Battle....Yorkville ls801p vs JBL VRX918sp
serato.com

Yo thats why I was asking you & Joee soo many questions. I always loved the SRX sound but the power they required kept me away. But the VRX & ZXA5 with the amps built in, this is the way to go. I see what yall mean.

what ? yea that would be crazy.....you sure ?.....lol

You was right. The VRX goes Lower. I gotta get some wheels for this one & I'm gonna need 4 of these.

we can disscuss the vrx here so not to completely thread jack.
serato.com

i believe it I've owned both, i have since sold them but the one vrx kills 2 or 3 elx118p, i wouldn't be surprised if it beat 4



pdidy warned you of this…….lol, i will warn you that after you get 4 your going to want the matching vrx tops, glad to hear your liking it there great subs & while being fairly light i sold them in favor of getting lighter subs

one more question, seems like you had some trouble getting it down into your speaker room, did you achieve what you were looking for? getting a good sub that easier to move around

Good sub yes. Easier to move around yes, after I get the right casters to roll them on.

were going to have to get together one day and do a sub comparison you vrx918sp vs my art 905-as, wait till i get my hd32-a and we can do that vs the zxa5 also

for fun suuuure.......... but we know the vrx sub and zxa5 will win.....lol

well yea, but lets see how well they hang with the big boy speakers

You'll have to throw in Gaffle's Danleys too - just to keep things in perspective ;-)

Gaffle isn't in philly so that won't happen

1 Danley TH-118 would beat 2 and possibly 3 of the VRX 918SP.

I've read that 1 TH-118 is on par to (or perhaps trumps) a pair of JBL SRX728's (that's 1 driver against 4). The SRX728 has a "calculated" 136dB max SPL whereas the TH-118 has a "measured" 143dB max SPL. It's not all that cut and dry but the TH-118's are no joke.

and you need four of them why?……….lol

you have better bass than all your local night clubs

Well the VRX is measured @ 132db or 144db x 4 which is pretty much the same thing "on paper". So the question is will it take 4 vrx to compete with a 1 Danley TH-118 ?

More like a small concert.....lol
Just to put it in perspective, 4 TH-118 is equivalent to about this many jbl's.... 1.bp.blogspot.com

They aren't cheap but when you factor in money saved from amplifiers, transportation and space saved the pricing definitely favors the Danleys.

specially since most dj's will only need one

I ran one TH-115 back in the day for a quick minute. I didn't like that... one sub just seemed so lonely. :-)

Your dB calculations sound right. I bet you'd like the front-firing thump of 4 VRX's over a single TH-118 but the extended lows and the sound carrying distance of the Danleys. Again, I would not run just one sub. Not that it wouldn't sound great but I'd just wouldn't want to have a single sub at a gig in case of failure; always have a backup plan.

I usually have my little RCF408A's as a backup to my ZXA5's as funny as that may sound. Better than nothing.

What about the FBT Promaxx 14a?

Is it good competition for the RCF ART 745-A and EV ZXA5?

Which of the 3 is the best value for money?

that is a question of personal preference not fact......

for example one guy can say the FBT Promaxx 14a is the best because of it price and weight or the RCF ART 745-A because of its sound and output or the EV ZXA5 because nothing is as loud in its price range.

Therefore the best value is the one that fulfills YOUR needs the best or you can have a pointless debate that can not be won.

We now have RCF745 owners in the building but they have YET to really speak on that speaker's performance.

Both my ZXA5's blew @ their 1st use Black Friday wedding 100 people tops. Pioneer ddjs1 0db on rear of s1 Serato @ 0 volume. I didn't push them the sound was nice & I didn't miss a sub, everything was in the green with no peaks. I didn't use my Driverack PX or any other processing just ran it straight to the ddjs1. Bass @ 12, Mids @ 10, Highs @ 11. 1st woofer went with 1 1/2 hours to go so to be safe I backed down on the volume of the other ZXA5 but it's woofer went with 1/2 hour to go. Party over. Should I have used the Driverack?

1. Have them repaired under warranty at your nearest certified Ev repair location, you can call Ev for that info. Hopefully there was a known parts failure covered by warranty. This is highly unlikely but you might get lucky and get a free fix.

2. Return them for a refund if possible or sell them when you get them back. Maybe they're just not for you. :)

Yes, you should have used a Driverack unless you really know the speaker's capabilities. Question is, do you know how to properly set the limiter feature on it and do you know the sound when you're reaching a speaker's limits?

1. They will most likely be repaired for free.

2. I'm gonna seriously stop recommending them w/o a disclaimer. (no built-in limiter) :=)

Thanks for the response DJ GaFFle they are in warranty repair. I could use some help setting the limiter on the Driverrack for them because the sound was Good & I thought I had headroom so I didn't bother with using the Driverrack. The highs were clean & clear bass was tight not close to breaking up at all. They are for me I love their sound just need some limiter setting suggestions.

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i have had one blow, while someone else was playing on them (never me) if you don't know the speakers limits you will blow them, they have no internal limiting…..that said it didn't sound like you were pushing them hard

I've had mine screaming on multiple occasions without any issues

FYI!!!!!!

do NOT use phoenix audio on cottman ave to repair them……he has been slipping lately send them back to EV

Wow.
That's shitty. Does ev recommend a soft break in period on these speakers? Make sure that the repair house check out the rest of the electronics in the box. Could be a batch of bad components that caused the amp to send straight DC(square wave), and fry the coils. If you have a recone house repair them make sure that they use ev parts. Some of those places use aftermarket coils and parts and they don't hold up. Also, how old was the venue you were playing at? Over the years i've played at places with unstable power, that caused problems with the equipment. Good Luck. I'm sure that ev will get it sorted for you.

Hey Joee. EV repair 45 & Springfield ave phila pa. The wedding was at Eagles Ron Jowarski's Country Blackwood N.J. No need to go too Loud & the sound was good. I'm almost 100 % sure that they will get fixed for free but this scenario makes me want to set the limiters on my Driverrack so when I do larger & outdoor events this won't happen. Help...

Couple years old & electric seemed well. I didn't take any processing with me but I did take a Furman & it showed stable current all night. Break in I'm going to contact them today about that but since their 1st time out was a wedding 100 people Older crowd I didnt think about a break in period.

Joee what do you limit your ZXA5's at in full range? I like the sound of them without adding any eq just a slight cut on the mixer on highs & mids both around 11 o'clock.

i don't use a limiter…….i have learned it's limits

I've had them as high as 2 o'clock and the 62 as loud as it could go without hitting the red

screaming! to the point were you'd be damn near a block away and it still sounded like the speakers was in your face

I've never had any issue ……i friend did blow one of mine & paid to recone it so no harm

Did you have any backup gear with you? If not, was the client cool with the event ending a little early? This is something that I've struggled with over the years, I love the ease and convenience of the powered stuff and technology based solutions like serato, and the laptop, but I find myself carrying backups of my backups , and having cd's and a crate of records with me all the time. If running a passive system, and I lose an amp, just hookup the next one in the rack. If I lose a speaker, just go to the van and grab a backup. It is a pain in the ass to have to lug around extra stuff, but better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it. In your situation it is un-usual to lose both speakers at the same time, maybe a possible defect, or the zxa5's just have a different learning curve because they are running un-corked. I see a lot of guys using a smaller/cheaper powered speaker as their monitor while gigging. I think that's a great idea, and you kill two birds with one stone.

i nice pair of powered tens will make great monitor/backup while taking up no space

www.rcf.it

or if you want something to match you new 745 (how are you liking them?)

www.rcf.it

The 408 looks sweet. The 745's sound great to me. I have gotten several compliments on the sound. Been using mostly at grownup parties 200 or so people without subs and they get the job done. Of course the highlight of the speaker is the 4in high freq. driver. The highs are accurate, precise, and crystal clear. I'm also pretty shocked at the amount of bass that these things deliver out of a plastic box. I still don't know how they compare to the zxa5, however i'm happy and don't have to worry about them self destructing. Some people have asked me where the subwoofer was hidden. I have a few younger gigs coming up this month and will have a chance to push them a little harder to see what they can deliver. I have a venue that might be purchasing some eaw sb528's from me and then I will be looking for some good powered subs. 220lbs for sub boxes and amp rack is just too much for my 40+ year old body to carry. I do wish that rcf would have put a hi-pass setting on these speakers. Do the Yorkville powered subs have a built in crossover to hi-pass a set of tops?

No, you would either run a separate set of line level signal to them or go from the tops to the sub. That will work OK if your tops have a high pass option built in.

i have the rcf 745. would you know if theese has built in high pass option? also, what kind of sub's would you guys recomend for me? ^^

no they don't rcf put's the crossover in there subs


www.rcf.it

www.rcf.it

those sub are pricy thou over $2,000

if you wanted to keep your system all rcf art 7 series 4 of these will foo the trick but again there pricy $1,300 each……..there are better options at the same price points
www.rcf.it

ok but one 8004as would be better than two of the 905's you think? that would be about the same price^^ also has anyone even tested the rcf 745 series with a sub? is there no high pass so it would get messy you reckon?

most likely yes


again the crossover is in the rcf sub it sends the correct high frequency to the tops they will not be playing in full range when used with a rcf sub

Not really a big deal about the built in hi pass. Just make sure the sub that you purchase has a built in crossover, or use a stand alone crossover like a rana ac22 or ac23, or dsp device like a driverack. I know that it's a pain in the ass to have to carry another device with you, but it is what it is. The rane crossovers are clean and can be found cheap on fleabay. I will just use my minidrive to cross my 745's over, because I will have to bring an amp rack with my passive subs anyway when I use them. Once I sell the passive subs I will get active subs with built in crossovers.

Cheers man :) Might not need a sub wuite yet so hopefully there will come a new sub untill next summer that might be a perfect match for the 745series :)

I have ordered 2x RCF 745 & 2x 8004AS subs will receive them in a couple of weeks . will let you know how they behave together ;)

You dude's got money!

Both EV ZXA5's are being reconned for free. The recone kits have been ordered. & Joee the Bride was ok with the Wedding ending a 1/2 hour early. No I didn't bring backup or a monitor but that will have to change. Thanks for the info.

Check it out! Got my 2nd Sub! 2 more to go! Might have to rock a party with my 2 EV ZXA1's with the 2 VRX subs. Sound real good together crossed @ 100 using the driverrack. This will have to do until my ZXA5's get repaired.[URL=s46.photobucket.com][IMG]i46.photobucket.com[/IMG][/URL]

good sh!t, shame you didn't have the zxa1's with you at the wedding there so small you should always carry them as backup & monitor

Yeah, Im not used to speakers blowing anymore but 2 of those as monitors or backup is the way to go. But for inside smaller to medium size events those zx1s & vrx 2 + 2 sound good together.

Still don't get how you blew 2 ZXAs with only a 100 person party. How loud were you playing??

my homie blew one of mine, gains on the mixer were good serato gains were good BUT the master gain in serato were ALLLLLL the way up to the right on his computer we noticed it after he blew one


any way ..either the speakers were defective (i don't think so) what are the chances both speakers were defective? some how he must have been feeding them a distorted signal

i hope they work for you problem free from now on, I've used them for years & also pleany of times without subs……i hit them HARD!!!!!!!!! and never had one single issue (till my boy played on them) if you use ears they will tell you there at there limit and it's time to back of


the speaker will start to break up letting you know back down

Not that loud, I would guess about 50% volume. Serato was @ 0, Trims @ 12, Channels 1 & 2 @ 8, Master @ 2. All green no peaking anywhere. Sound was nice, bass was tight, not screaming or breaking up. I called Valley Green Country Club today they said the electric generator was done over in 2010 no complaints?

& 12 o'clock on speakers, Bass @ 12, Mids @ 10, Highs @ 11. Again I keep gain for Serato on my laptop @ 0. ???

sound like you were doing everything right! i can't explain why they the failed

Same here!

Considering how few people actually own ZXA5s, the failure rate on these seems extremely high for such an expensive speaker. The fact that there is no limiter basically trades a few extra decibels of output for a dangerous reduction in reliability. If I ever really want/need a high output active 15", I'll stick with the proven reliable DSR115s.

Al

Right, So here's the Big question.....

If every setting was "as he says" including the gain structure and signal chain then isn't it only logical to believe they will blow again when he repeats "everything he did right" ?

Point being If you don't know what you did wrong, what stops you from repeating it ?

What is the possibility of 2 woofers being defective ?

This is why my 1st recommendation was to return them.....

i just don't know man, I've had mine hitting hard & playing so loud that it hurt your ears if you were standing close

it really makes no sense to me, as I've played mine at extreme levels many times without failure

he has a drive rack that i'm sure he will always use now


fixed

yes please do, tx :)

How about a list of some songs that were being played. If I was guessing, the only way to blow two woofers on such a high powered speaker is you were asking it to reproduce frequencies at or below the -3db point on the speakers frequency chart, at a loud volume. So you know I own a truck load of EV equipment, and have used their stuff for many years.

If you only have a pair of tops and no subs (sorry if I missed that there were subs present), and you are rocking the house on hip hop or tracks with a lot of low bass, you can easily exceed the mechanical limits of the speaker, For example the pictures that I believe RCFJoee posted above, those are not power or heat failures, they are over excursion failures :)

I have played some common requested (older hip hop dance tracks, for example Low) and had my DXR15s, I was playing a small school dance without subs, limit and actually hear the case rattle and the voice coil bottom out, and they have good DSP. I backed off the bass 3 db immediately.

Once again, just guessing, because I was not present, once you popped the first speaker and were down to one, you lost half your volume, even though you think you lowered the volume, now you were trying to do the event with just one speaker and were probably pushing it harder than you think. Plus that speaker had already suffered the cone weakening from over excursion like the speaker that had already given up the ghost.

I can not over emphasize that it is not only the size of the crowd or the space that dictates your choice of rig for the gig, an important things is what is the frequency content of the musical selections.

Subs can be your best friends at even the smallest of events :) Good luck with your repairs!!

Ray J.

..... says the guy with the Danley's, LOL

Man, having kids though changes your dynamics.


I forgot about this. Also, did he run 'Analyze' on his entire Serato library? I've got a couple songs in my library that'll cause damage if I'm not careful. It's the producer's/masterer's fault IMO... "Headsprung" - LL Cool J and "I Think I Love Her" - Gucci Mane. When I play them, breakers trip or speakers blow. I've since modified the gains on the individual tracks and still have to tone down the bass.

I always run mine at -12 db (9 O'clock). The last time someone turned one up to 0 (12 O'clock) it fried the woofer. This was playing a lot of bass-heavy trap at high volume. I highly recommend using a Driverack or some other limiter when using these at high volume.

Not only that, if you're not running subs and KNOW you're gonna play the EV's LOUD, set the DriveRack LPF/HPF allowing only 55Hz and above. The ZXA5 is -3dB @ 58Hz so no need to try and send any signal less than that when in full-range. Be sure to undo this when you incorporate subs back into the picture when used with your DriveRack or you'll be scratching your head wondering what's wrong.

Good advice!

Hi all.

I'm new to the forum but have been following the thread.

So what's the verdict?

Ev zxa5 or rcf 745a?

I know the preference of sound is subjective but has anyone done a side by side comparison yet?

not yet

I didn't know the 745a's were retailing for $1999. Not that it matters but they are not a good looking speaker.

$1,220 or $1,240 was the price i got

That's not bad at all.

Looks and presentation matter but IMO, they aren't that bad.

Now this → encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com ← is a very unappealing speaker.

but you said they get a pass cause they sound good……lol

Hi all.

Could either of the speakers mentioned (zxa5, promaxx14a or rcf 745a keep up with this yorkville.com
powered by a qsc plx 1602 in stereo?

Yes all could, the Yorkie is only a 250 rms, 500 program, 1000 peak speaker, but it is a good speaker, I heard a pair of them in Nashville Sam Ash. Very good sounding horn.

Agreeded. The horn on the Yorkies are sweet. Not annoying at all. Hence I asked the question. I'm trying to decide on a powered pair of tops that can keep up/compete with the heavy Yorkie cabinet. I haven't heard any of the above powered tops, so I've been following the thread to see which of the ones mentioned are/is the best in this price range.

fr.m.audiofanzine.com

Hi all.
Merry Xmas to all and your families. I'm not sure how much time any of you will have for the next little while but I came across an interesting discussion in a forum about the 745a. It is in French so you will need to use google translater
to read it.

Too much text for any translator I've run across. Oh well... still no thorough reviews even though there are several owners on this forum.

I checked the link, in short nothing important

So, Today I had the opportunity to listen to a 745a in-store back to back with elx115, dxr15, dsr115, etx15p, Pre sonus studiolive 315al. The King-Ding-A-Ling zxa5 was also listened to back to back. The listening music used consisted of R&B, Rap, and top 40 stuff. Music was played from Iphones/Ipods into the stores board with all settings on the board flat. First of all I don't think that you can go wrong with any of the speakers that I have listed above, however I will say this, and it shouldn't be a surprise that the elx115 shouldn't be compared to the others in this group, and its $400 price point explains that. However it was there, so I listened. The yamaha's sound very good, have good bass response and they get pretty loud. The mixer section on the dxr is outstanding, and the can't beat the 7 year warranty. The etx15p sounded good, and has great versatility with its on-board dsp settings, however it is not near as loud as the 745 or zxa5. The Pre sonus is a pretty cool speaker. It is a compact 3 way top that has the ability to have its operating temperature monitored, and dsp settings adjusted via an ipad. Right now they are giving buyers an ipad with the purchase of a set of speakers. The Pre sonus sounds good, just not really loud.

So next up is the 745a compared to the zxa5. The store didn't have a 745 on the floor, and didn't think that they had one in stock. However when they checked their computers they realized that they had a few in the warehouse, and would bring one up front. I had a good long listen to the zxa5 while I waited for the 745 to arrive. The zxa5 has serious balls, and gets loud as shit. Just like when I first listened to them when they first came in at idjnow, I was amazed at the amount of sheer volume, and the bass coming out of a plastic cabinet. I began to think that I had made a mistake with my purchase of the 745's. Once the 745 was hooked up and placed next to the zxa5, and fired up, those thoughts quickly left my head. The 745 is so smooth that their is no comparison to my ears. It has at least just as much bass or a little more bass then the zxa5, and seems to go blow for blow with the zxa5 in the loudness department. The music was getting very loud in the store, and we wanted to be considerate of other shoppers. I can say that the 745's limit light never came on. As we all know the zxa5 has no limit light, however it was not pushed to the point of getting harsh(as stated by other users of zxa5's). The 4in makes the 745 crystal clear, and they throw forever. They also remain very smooth and warm when pushed hard.

The Bad:
I wish that RCF had made a better mixer section. Most companies are using xlr combo jacks instead of an xlr, and 1/4in jack next to each other. RCA inputs would have been nice to make ipod hookup easier. The fact that their is no hi-pass switch on the speaker is a little bit of a bummer also. It limits the available sub-woofer options, unless you want to run a seperate crossover. Powercon Connectors would have also been nice. And I would rather have these drivers in a box in the HD lineup.

I was at the store for a few hours, and something funny happen while there. A guy probably in his 30's came in asking about powered speaker, and asked to hear a few different models. When the guy asked to hear the zxa5, the salesman told he no. He laughed and said that he wasn't comfortable selling the zxa5 for $100 more then the 745a.

I don't claim to be any kind of speaker god, and the things typed above are my feelings and opinions. Some of the people in the store also felt overall that the 745 sounded better then the zxa5. The zxa5 is no joke, and it's a very good looking and sounding package. Their are several high quality choices out there when it comes to buying gear, and what works or sounds good to one person, might not cut it for the next guy/girl. At the end of the day, you can have all of the latest and greatest equipment, however if you can't spin the hits and rock the party, what good is it all?

!!! Congratulations !!!

☼You are officially the 1st person on the planet to compare the RCF 745a to the EV ZXA5☼

Your description is what I thought would be the case. That 4" high driver on the 745a's should make a huge impact on the sound clarity and focus. The lack of HPF on the 745a's is a bummer; I never noticed that. Good point about wishing the drivers were in the HD-line's casing. Looks play an important part in my setups. The 745's aren't ugly to me but they have a very edgy design and for such a large cabinet, the looks stand out.

very good info! i would love to know the results of the zxa5 vs 745 when pushed it limiting, the zxa5 has no limiter but you will hear it reach it's limits they start to break up

anyway good review……maybe just maybe this will be the 15" two way to dethrone the almighty EV ZXA5

Very good review. Lack of a high pass filter sucks for the 745 as well as the overall look compared to the ZXA. I think you can't go wrong either way just depends on what features are more important to you. For me, having the high pass as well as the look of the speaker is important to me which is why I still don't regret my ZXA purchase.

I like the looks of the zxa5 better, however the 745 looks a lot better in person. A lot better then the pictures. Also the weight is very impressive. I took the 745 down from where it was sitting while playing, and had the guy that came in after me pick it up. He was very, very surprised at its light weight. His eyes lit up like crazy after the salesperson fired it up. He said something to the effect of he thought it was a P.O.S. based on the weight when he lifted it. The 745 is listed at 43lbs, and the zxa5 is 50 pounds. Can't go wrong with either one.

Times like this when I wish I wasnt broke.....

I'll say this... I own a pair of RCF 408A's which are the baby 8" look-alike versions of the 745A's. Those things definitely need covers as that plastic scratches pretty badly. I have the hardest time finding RCF covers for the 8" and will have to order them overseas because the US distributors only have 10" covers. Moral... if you get the 745A's, get covers immediately.

Hypothetically speaking, could the availability of parts either replacement or warranty be an issue with overseas as compared to American made? If a speaker went down and a recone wasn't available, 15 inch speakers are common but how common are 4 inch diaphragms?

Good question ^^^.

Not my video, and nothing groundbreaking or exciting. Just a visual of the 745a and tech shit that most of you probably know. No music in the video.

Watchwww.youtube.com

anybody has any experience with powerdynamic subwoofers? i bought rcf 745 and the plan was to save up for the 8004as subwoofers but they are veeery costy. And yesterday i found theese powerdynamic : www.amazon.co.uk for a very cheap offer ( about 400£ each) and i could go ahead and order them today wich is very tempty. any help guys please

Man,
I'm all about finding a good deal, however with having a $1300 top speaker you need a quality subwoofer. You don't want to skimp when it comes to sub duty. I think that you should save up a little more cash, and go with a better option. If you want to give it at try and can purchase the powerdynamic from a place with a no question asked return, then give it a try to see what its about.

The manual

files.tronios.com

Also the product details on their website list the max spl as 130db, while the manual states 136db. Which is it? Seems like they don't know their own product. That is a red flag to me.

www.tronios.com

yes i have also seen the db problem. maybe the rms 800wats can go 130db wich really can be enough on some occations.

yes have also seen both 130db and 136. maybe 130db is in safe 800watts rms or ome? so it can go as deep as 30hz. that would be great. . anyways i sent the store a message now and asked about returning policy.

What about building my own subwoofers ?Does anybody have anything to say about that? To match my RCF 745's

www.rcf.it

thats my recommendation it can be had for $1,500 to $1,300 ,thats about the cheapest 18" you will find in the rcf lineup…...


also the sub 718-as cab be had for less than $1,300
www.rcf.it

Plenty of great subwoofer designs out there. Just a matter of whether you have the skill to build the boxes. Do you already have amps,crossover,amp plate, etc? Would your build be passive or active for the subwoofer? Search around prosoundweb.com. Lots of knowledge there, and people building speakers.

www.prosoundweb.com

Does the bandpass 718 sound bad when listened to next to the 8003?

i prefer the 8003 over the 718, was just showing him some cheaper options in the rcf lineup, i wouldn't say it sounds bad just not as good

I'm not a fan of bandpass anything when it comes to subs.

found a used RCF 8003 for sale now. Is it not smart to buy used u think? i really dont know anymore if i should buy two powerdynamic, one used rcf 8003 or just try to save for like 4-5 months.. heeeelp

A used one could be a great deal. You have to weigh the new cost versus used cost and decide if it's worth buying used. How much will you save buying the used one? Who is the seller? If it's from a good seller that took care of it, i say go for it. The 8004 will outperform 2 cheap subs. I have no first hand knowledge on ther powerdynamics subs you mention.

it is from a legit store who sells the used 8003as.. i might try and cancel the powerdynamic purchase and just wait and see.. but i just came across used K&F CA SW 118E-SP isnt this like high end stuff?

Picked up my EV ZXA5's out of repair today the tech told me the voice coils were not burnt but new. The wire leading to both coils on both speakers were loose/broken if he pushed the woofer it would make contact & play? Warranty repaired for free.

I think that your in the UK. You guys have quality brands across the pond, that us guys in the USA are not familiar with. Hopefully someone in the UK will chime in with some knowledge about the K&F brands. Have you noticed that companies equipment in stadiums, venues, or being used by the sound pro's un your area? If so, it's pribably a pretty solid product.

Glad they took care of you. Sounds like possibly a bad batch of components or a bad tolerance on something. Im sure they wiil provide you many years of trouble free use now.

Im in norway and seems like we have expensive stuff here cmpared to some US stuff, atleast the RCF had to pay 4000$ for my set of 745Art but i am very saticfied as other brands like EV etc is same price or little more.. But this K&F stuff retails for about $7000 for one sub here in norway. If i can get both ( years old) for a little under that price then i thin i will go and check them out. Hope someone here has something to say about the K&F sub's ^^ :)

I've never heard them but they are wayyyyy out of my league price wise. They seem like boutique speakers with "cool factor" designs IMO.

^^^ Sorry, wrong brand I was speaking of.

Gaffle,
You ever find those covers for your rcf 8's? Did you just get those, or have you had them for a while? How do you like them?

I have them in my Ebay 'watch list'. They're about $48 each and I'll have to pay shipping from the UK. I'll waiting until income tax time before I get them. I've had my RCF408A's for almost 2 years now.

I picked up 2 Jbl prx 712 for monitors but to use with my Jbl VRX's until the EV zxa5's got repaired. 135 Db max Jbl Prx712 limiter lights come on too soon crossed @ 100 thru Driverrack. My EV Zxa1's sound louder & brighter @ 125 Db just don't throw far. Glad to see my zxa5's back.

i used the zxa1/zxa1 sub combo…….i loved it was a great little system (evox 8 crushes it)
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the 8" ev gets louder than the 12" more expensive jbl? you gonna get jbl fans mad…lol

Two Evox or only one?

one evox spanks one zxa1/zxa1 sub

does the evox spank the 745 aswell? ??
maybe it could be a good combo for later upgrading?

your comparing apples to oranges

Im going all in bananas try my very best pray for me that i will get a loan from my boss tomorrow morning so i can go and pick up a pair of Kling & Freitag SW 118-SP sub's to match my 745's. They are standing in a church and will get way below half price^^ LETS GET THE WHEELS GOING. one time!!

Here it goes again

My EV Zxa5's are working just fine now no problems. I just had to tighten down the screws for the monitor feet because the bass was making them rattle.

I'm wondering how the new jbl srx 815P will do against the EV. With 3" compression driver, wood box, DSP, the srx 800 series looks good on paper.

Can't wait to check them out

stop playin you just want to spend some money & get new toys…..lol

Lol. Only if it's worth it.

What's the advantage of the 4 inch voice coil and how do they compare with the RCF hd32s and the evox 8 system ?

For the horn, it allows a lower frequency crossover point. The 15" driver does not have to handle as high of frequencies and can concentrate more on the mid-to-lower frequencies. Larger high-frequency 4" drivers can usually handle more power as well.

If you've got a 15" driver which handles the lows, mids, and vocals, you can imagine that would be a lot for only one driver to handle and still sound precise. The fact that bass driver is not horn focused/loaded also lends them not producing a more focused sound like the horn (highs) portion of the speaker does. Because the high-frequency 4" driver is attached to a horn, it has more vocal directivity depending on the shape of the horn which allows the vocals to be more focused (60, 75, or 90 degree). The mouth size of the horn comes into play as well and they are usually 1", 1.5" or 2" is size.

I can't speak on pt.2 of your question.

Think of when your gym teacher wanted to get everybody's attention... he'd couple his hands around his mouth (the horn) to sound louder and more focused.

Sorry I should have said i was referring to RCF 745 when i spoke about 4 inch voice coil

Horns that handle the mids really make for a sweet sounding speaker. I had a pair of Klipch La Scala's year ago for home use, probably one of the best sounding speakers I have ever heard. They had a huge mid range horn, a small horn tweeter and a horn loaded woofer.

My same explanation applies.

Would mixer settings eqs etc be different using rcf 745 as opposed to say Rcf 710s particularly in the mid range area thinking of vocals etc

I just bought a pair of RCF ART 745-A, I'll be getting them next week here in Mexico. It's gonna be quite an upgrade from my K10.

lol……tell me about it, your k10 will sound like headphones next to the 745…..lol

Lol Ikr, I use my K10's with 2 KW181's but still I need the extra volume for outdoor gigs.

A friend of mine just bought a yorkville LS801p. He plans on buying a second one. For bigger gigs I would borrow those subs.

OOO…….in that case your k10/kw181 sound good…….lol


that thing kills the kw181…….i recently did a speaker/sub shoot out & the ls801pb was only 20 feet away


i said "don't even bring it out we don't need to include it in the shoot out"…..lol

It does sound good, especially indoors, but lately I've been getting more and more outdoor gigs and I'm not satisfied with the output, the limit lights come quite early. The RCF's should give me quite a bit more of that output (: I'll also appreciate the chest thumping bass from the yorkvilles.

How many yorkvilles would you say you can use with the RCF Tops at full volume?

when you want to get bass bins for those 745 ……look @ these, there beastly
www.rcf.it

Actually, I do want to eventually get some of those subs, probably next year cause I want to buy totems, moving heads, plus I'm paying for my SUV lol

Those subs took out three light fixtures at my event on Saturday. Lulz I'm just glad they didn't hit anyone on the head.

The rcf 8004

DAMN……lol

your are officially the second person on the forum to to this….gaffle was the first

If you borrow his ls801p's make sure you bring some kind of outboard dsp or crossover. The ls801p's have no high pass output.

Uh oh. Liability issue lol

nm

I know that's right. And peeps always ask should I get insurance. #smh

That's not a good feeling (falling fixtures). It's happened to me at 4 or 5 different venues here. From the ceiling tile rails, to vent grills, to recessed bulbs, to the bulb housings... it all has the potential to rain down when Danleys enter the building (and I was only using two). I guess you can put the RCF8004's on that list too. Big bass is great for the party though. Insurance is professional and a must for me.

true that!

you got some company in the destruction of venue caused by excessive bass gaffle ….lol

i don't have to worry about hitting any one in the head with flying light fixtures when i use my evox 8…….lol

So I just got my RCF ART 745-A's. I'll be using them on their own for smaller gigs but I'll be bringing 2 LS801P's subs for the bigger gigs. Should I buy the Dbx DriveRack PA2? Or which crossover would you recommend?

Trinity pro sound review of the rcf art745a.

Watchwww.youtube.com

nice watching right now only took them almost 2 years to review……lol

I think he mostly reviews stuff he is going to carry in his inventory or that he is installing. I don't think those speakers are too popular in our area.

i thought he would have got to it a little quicker since they stock rcf, but the main reason i though so was this speaker had a real buzz going well before it was released


the 4" horn had everyone like saying "WOW"


"this is an amazing speaker with a large HF driver and crossover of 650hz , makes this speaker something that you will only get with boxes twice the price."


thats pretty nice right there ,they have some expensive boxes but they also have some cheap really nice sounding boxes i.e. the art 3 series

He doesn't really stock a lot of inventory. He is more a production company first and foremost.

copy that

Hello everyone.I bought a pair of rcf 745-A speakers yesterday.They are absolutely amazing speakers.Really powerful and so clean highs.Couldn't be happier.I use these speakers with the Rcf TTS18A active subwoofer and together they make a powerful set.

You can't compare the evox to 745.Though evox is really good but rcf 745 matched with an 18"subwoofer is much better and more powerful.I have two of 745-A speakers and a Rcf TTS18A active and I tell that is a powerfull setup.

Get the Rcf 745-A,you won't regret.They are absolutely great speakers.I own them and they are crazy loud and so clean.

So when did you do a side-by-side comparison of the Ev zxa5 or rcf 745a ?

I've heard the Ex Zxa5,they did sound good to me but when I listened to the Rcf 745-A I was amazed by it's voice clarity.Rcf 745-A wins hands down.

youtu.be

Here is a short video of Rcf 745-A matched with Rcf TTS18A active subwoofer.This is really a powerful setup.

So then you've NEVER done a side by side with the Ev zxa5 and rcf 745a ?

By the way if anybody was curious about the Ev zxa5 vs EV ETX15p comparison ?
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In an actual side by side test the zxa5 was the clear winner.

Look mate,the Ev ZxA5 is rated 1250 watt,the Rcf 745-A is 700 watt rms.I don't think that ZxA5 is louder than the 745

No,I didn't do a side by side test

Thanks, why was that so hard for you to admit too.....lol

So you think that the Ev Zxa5 is better than the Rcf 745-A ?

why ? Based on wattage ?

No because that would be a false claim considering ive never tested them under the same conditions side by side.

LMAO!

****Pats self on back***

CTHU @ cats trying to convince ME that I should buy the RCF based on white papers and "educated" guesses... vs. real life comparisons.

HOW many people on here swore the ZAX5 was the end all to all 15" speakers in actual use versus those who actually HAD the RCF?

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

lol, you can't make this stuff up....

Oh wait, that was the ZXA5 vs the ETX15p...

Why was that even a comparison?

Y'all killin' me...

Rcf 745-A is a beast.Ev is a good speaker but no way better than the Rcf 745-A.

Lol! And you know this how?

Focus Johnny, Focus

Let me help you out here a lil.....I think it obvious to everyone reading this except for YOU, that your claim is based on Bias and no real facts. The Rcf 745-A could very well be better than the zxa5 in every way but you have know reliable evidence to prove it.

Its probably best not to make unfounded claims in a room full of experienced users....IJS.

There's a few users here who were wagering that the ETX15p would equal or come very in performance to the zxa5. To be honest, its not even close enough to be debatable, the zxa5 is in a different league...

But.......Due to the ETX15p internal processing limiting protection, it is the clear choice for the novice user. I did a pretty good job at torturing and abusing them like a noob dj would on a regular bacis and they handled it flawlessly.

Yesterday I went to a dealer of Ev in my town and I took with me one of the rcf 745-A.I know the dealer cause I buy frequently from him so asked him if I could compare these two speakers.The ev zxa5 might be a bit louder but the rcf 745-A is much cleaner.It's high frequency has 4.0" v.c. and produces better and clear highs than the zxa5.Here are the 745-A specifications:


1400 Watt Peak, 700 Watt RMS digital amplifier
133 dB max spl
90 x 60, Wide dispersion constant directivity horn
15" NEO woofer, high power 3.5" voice coil
HF NEO driver, titanium dome, 4" voice coil
PFC power factor correction
DSP Processing
19.6 Kg / 43.2 lbs
ACOUSTICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Frequency Response -3 dB:45 Hz ÷ 20000 Hz
Max SPL:133 dB
Horizontal coverage angle:90°
Vertical coverage angle:60°
Compression Driver:1.5" neo, 4.0" v.c.
Woofer:15" neo, 3.5" v.c.
INPUT/OUTPUT SECTION
Input signal:Bal / unbal
Input connectors:XLR, Jack
Output connectors:XLR
Input sensitivity:-2 dBu / +4 dBu
PROCESSOR SECTION
Crossover frequencies:650 Hz
Protections:Thermal, rms
Limiter:Soft limiter
Controls:Volume, EQ shape
AMPLIFIER SPECIFICATIONS
Total power:1400 W PEAK
High frequencies:400 W PEAK
Low frequencies:1000 W PEAK
Total power:700 W RMS
High frequencies:200 W RMS
Low frequencies:500 W RMS
Cooling:Convection / forced
Connections:VDE connector in

It's all subjective on what one means by "better". In one breath you say the Ev is "no way better than the Rcf 745-A." but in another, you say "The ev zxa5 might be a bit louder...". Some people think louder is better, others think that clarity makes a better speaker. I'd personally look for a balance.

Just guessing, I'd say the ZXA5 is louder but with that massive voice coil, the RCF 745-A would be noticeably clearer and focused at loud volumes. I personally own the ZXA5 but like the RCF 745 and think it's a great choice for any mobile DJ.

This has always been my guess as well.....

@ pajtim, Nice to see you put in the footwork and did a real side by side test.

Mate,I'm really happy with my rcf 745-A.They are powerful speakers and not heavy at all.Can lift two 745 with one way.They are best for mobile dj

i like them also, just trying to get you to be honest and unbiased :)

Man, I own 745's also. A very good crew around here, that are not going to drink the Kool Aid just because someone is serving it. Just be aware that what works best for you might not be best for someone else. Speaker selection is subjective just like the kind of sneakers, pants, shampoo a person decides to use. Holy shit if you really want to stir shit up go to an auto, or motorcycle forum, and open a discussion on best oil, or gas to use.

Here is a short video of Rcf 745-A matched with Rcf TTS18A active subwoofer.This is really a powerful setup.



I know that your setup must sound really good, however youtube videos fail to showcase how well a speaker system sounds. I laugh like hell everytime someone post a youtube video showcasing the sound quality of their speaker systems.

Enjoy.....

Mate,it is normal that you cannot hear the real quality sound of a setup on youtube.Anyway,a good setup of a speaker system can sound good enough on youtube if you listen to it not on smartphone but in a laptop conected with some good speakers. :)

i was with you up until this


so when you listen to that youtube vid on your computer with the 745 / tts18 hooked up it's sounds clean & clear? like you are at the live event?

If it's recorded with a good smartphone the sound will be good enough but not as good as it is played at that time live.

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Anyway,i'm really satisfied with Rcf 745-A.They are lightweight,powerful and so clean.Before I had some Ev Tx1152 passive cabinets,they were good but heavy.With Rcf 745-A I saved my back and the quality is fantastic.

Question for the 745 owners if you could help please. How do you think they would work for weddings etc? You know where the dancefloor is right in front of the speakers. Hoping to find something scalable so when used without subs it still sounds nice - without that QSC harshness but with the extra thump you get when you hit the bass boost in QSCs. My current wedding speaker is 3 series RCF.
Thanks for any tips.

I have a pair ART745's and use them with/without subs . They are great speakers for this price range .Two 745's can keep up the phase with 4 8004as subs

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very nice

That set up would make some noise. Thanks for your post, do you find them harsh at all for smaller weddings etc?

just sold my ev etx15p's (excellent speaker btw) and was considering something different so i may end up getting the rcf ART 745's or RCF - NX L24-A.......

I've got some Cerwin V35's for sale.

Classic sound!

Be bold!

lol, naa i think that's above my weight limit by about 100lbs.

ahhh....a proper zxa5 vs art 745 :)

Don't know if you saw my Gearwhore thread but finally got some pics up.

Me too. Sold my beloved zxa5 to raise cash for RCF 8004 subs. My yorkville LS801P are next to go. Actually on my local craiglist for sale now.

Why all these? Bcos of my RCF 745A. These speakers are the beast. I like the fact that i haven't seen the limit light ever since i bought them. I have pushed them beyond my own limit but still no limit and they still maintain clear sound. I even called RCF and 1 of the reps told me unless I want to destroy the speaker, that's the only way I will see the limit light. He also mentioned that they used real speaker measurement in their watts on speakers. Even tho the speaker said it 700W, he said actually its 2800W but they don't wanna list b4 pple thinks its bogus. Men am a believer now that I've used them several times for big events.

My zxa5 was my ultimate speaker b4 but U gotta know how to use them with a limiter. Or else, U will be blowing the Hi's or the woofer all the time.

I picked up the new pioneer speakers for my smaller gigs. Men am beginning to like the Tops too. Loud as hell but the subs are so so but manageable. I have the 12" tops to go with the subs XPRS215S. The tops are heavier than my 745's.
Pioneer XPRS 12 @ 50lbs while 745 is only 43lbs.

Can't wait to buy the RCF 8004 subs. I will start with 2 and later add another 2 to make it 4 down the line.

I saw the pics men. Hey why do u keep a lot of gears? I like to flip mine once am done with it and add small money to move on to the next gear. Thats just me.

ANYBODY know the best price on the RCF 745A ?

Got mine for 1320 plus tax NEW. Got it on sale. originally selling for 1699.
CHECK pro audio star in NEW YORK. They even have open box for 1299 d last i checked.

But I'm sayin!

That classic sound...

Just roll em in, plug in the sound, no extra AC cords, and that horn reaches way above the crowd.

Hell, I'll even throw in a working BBE.

Classic purchase!

I still use most of it, depending on the gig. I also rent some gear to a few select people. I like the spinning platters of the Denons, they work just as good as vinyl for my style of mixing.

Oh ok. That's good.

i havent priced them in some time , but think it was 7 or 8 per box

but don't hold me to that that it's been a while

Huh????? For a 745a? What u smokin on bruh? Haha

Not a chance

CAN YOU VERIFY WITH YOUR connect in the morning, thanks.

again i said don't quote me on that, it's be a while


but so you see i get good pricing ,i just purchases a evox 12 with cover for $1,700


i will check 745 pricing tomorrow & get back to you

lol, i do smoke cigars ....lol

under $1,200

How do you guys think the srx812 would fair against the art 745? Obviously we are talking 15 to a 12 but the arts are lighter and have pretty much the same size box.

Already have a pair of subs to go with either(vrx918sp) but was hoping maybe if I went with the RCF I could get away with not having to haul the subs all the time for smaller events.

The srx812 you wont be dissapointed they sound amazing...i doubt their is a better sounding 12inch box in its price range..they will go perfect with your vrx918 subs...the srx815 is a better match for the 745 though.

So two questions then,
1. Out of the 15's which would be better?
2. Do you think the srx 812's could hold a smaller event down by themselves?

Dj's have been using k12's solo for years with no subs and no complaints. The srx 812 outperforms the k12 with no debate or question.

So the only question is does it meet your personal approval when used with no subs ?

within less than a year I went from EV zxa5's to EV etx15p and now I have the rcf ART 745's for $1150ea.....


This was my exact experience also..... in testing I pushed them up to blazing loud an went to the back of the speaker to check them and to my surprise the limit light was not even blinking media.giphy.com. It was at that moment that I realized all the praises given to this speaker was actually true ! In order to make the rcf745 limit, I needed to push them beyond my real needs for output and even then they played flawlessly and maintained excellent clarity and bass. I am absolutely impressed.

nice.....but you didn't answer the golden question?

how is the bass compared to the zxa5? does it sound like you have a sub in the room?

ive here'd them many times ,but never compared to the zxa5

Absolutely, the RCF is an excellent standalone speaker so yes you feel like you have a small sub in the room. The base on it is just as impressive as the ZXa5.

nice, every time I've heard them it was with subs......i knew they didn't get harsh when pushing spl ,but wasn't sure about full rang bass

how would you compare to the the vrx array top with mids & highs?

They are two different animals so each can beat each other depending on use. For standalone the RCF 745 is the clear winner because of its bass response. When used with a sub with high output requirements for a large crowd or large coverage areas the VRX wins.

i guess that one 4" voice coil means nothing when its up agents 3 compression drives in one vrx box....lol

Out the box with no EQ'ing the RCF is simply perfect, while the VRX requires specific EQing to get to perfection. My guess is most people would prefer the sound of the RCF but when comparing at this high level of quality its really just nitpicking because they are both great.

Congrats. Told you all that the 745's get busy. Tried to hip djjohnny(joee's son)to them, but he didn't think they could hang with the zxa5's. Pdidy, did you get the covers with them?

Absolutely, best covers ever.

LMAO!

So y'all FINALLY got another person on here with 745's? And HOW many years has it been?

lmao.

ZXA5's rule out the box....IF you know what you're doing...

If I wanted to go RCF, then that's a different story.

So thank you for doing the field testing....

I go with the masses, and stick with the proven until proven otherwise..

Cheers!

To competent or experienced user of the ev zxa5, the RCF745 is merely a side step so I would not suggest a need to switch.

But for someone like myself who works with many inexperienced dj's who are quite often unsupervised, the benefits of the rcf745 protection reduces potential failures and my stress levels :)

Well said sir

owned him!

And there you go...

I'm not in the habit of sharing.

Yep, say that again, they didn't hear you...

Says the guys who thinks 12" subs rock....lmao.

BTW Joee**, I thought of you last light as I was at an event where SOMEONE threw a party in an 8000 square foot hall with high ceilings and used TWO (2), that's right TWO (2) Yorkville LS801P 18"'s for subs.

Over a thousand people in attendance.

Colossal fail.

and there in lies the problem homie! i never ever think of you at any of my events



www.kv2audio.com

this 12" here kills some 18" ....yes it rocks!!!!!!

You picked up etx18sp's also right? How many of those would you have needed for that hall? 8-10?

What made you think of Joee? You have feelings for him or something? Just sayin.

Did you sell your vega's, djjohnny-vega-zxa5-1?

lmao....owned him!!!!!

lol @ you slowly switching up your story...

Nah bruh, you were all mushy over a SINGLE 12" inch sub...."Rockin'" ...lmao.

Eh, 8 would have been about right.....



You know, I always thought you were a little passive aggressive cheerleader for ya gurl Joee**.... Trump is makin' y'all show your true colors, huh? lmao.

No biggie....

Yo. I just asked a question. I'm not the one on a forum admitting to thinking about another dude. I'm sure that wifey would find that very interesting.

To each is own Bruh. Do you Bee.

Peace

Was that dj Chris Loves BLACK TIE EVENT ?

I agree, 8 would be my minimum.

Johnny,

What kind of tops were they using?

LMAO.......don't sweet it brother, he is emotional to say the least





wait what! how do you know it's not a single 12"? i thought you didn't clink "LANKS"......lmao

here click some more, these are single 12" subs that beast


jtrspeakers.com

www.danleysoundlabs.com

eaw.com

i could keep going!! i don't need to get 1 million opinions on gear.......lmao....carry on




i'm saying thou pdidy, what if we only want the sound on the dance floor? two 801's would be enough! would you not agree?

I believe the reason for you and Johnny's disagreement is that you two are primarily 2 different types of dj's. You think more from a wedding dj's prospective so "sound on the dance floor" is adequate for you. While Johnny and I likely think more from a Party DJ's prospective so we see the whole room as the dance floor at club volumes. So 2 801's would sound anemic for a 1000 person venue at club volume.

but how would they sound on the dance floor?......lol

^ 20 x 20......40 x 40 ?

No, but close...

It WAS an "All Black" affair....

LMAO!

I've done this place a million times, and always used at MINIMUM, 4 W-Bins running at 800 Watts RMS apiece, and that was back in the 90's for those Eric Murdock parties...

And that was back in the 90's.

What's so bad is that he didn't even have the subs on the floor, they were on the STAGE, so he wasn't even getting the reflection of a back wall to help project.

Yep, peace.

This is what I'm saying from a sound perspective...

However he and I disagree from a DJ perspective, well because he's not a DJ ....lmao.

Pdidy, here's a pic of the party, and people were STILL coming in...

www.djjohnnym.com

If you notice on the left, ON the stage is where the sub and one "Top" was .... The other side had the same setup.

There was another Top that is out of the view, but it was a ....12" QSC, most likely a K12.

Oh, and they gave Qua a K8 or K10 for a MONITOR....lol....

He was mad as hell.

What kind of tops were they using?

They look like some JBL Eons from the back.

Thats what i was thinking with that slanted back.

That's what's SITTING on the stage, off to the left, there is a QSC on a stand.

The RCF is a great speaker, the only drawback Ive found with my RCF 735a is that when using them alone with no sub they will limit earlier with boost on, but thats a given. The bass boost button really makes them bump, but also works them hard. I did find they can go way louder without it. The bass boost really brings out the lower frequencies. I did find a fix though, I dont use the boost, instead I use my presonus mixing board to add bass and still allow them to reach their max loudness, but with more midbass and no limit light.

this is the same thing i do with my zed 6, it make a huge difference

wait what! how do you know it's not a single 12"? i thought you didn't clink "LANKS"......lmao

here click some more, these are single 12" subs that beast


jtrspeakers.com

www.danleysoundlabs.com

eaw.com

i could keep going!! i don't need to get 1 million opinions on gear.......lmao....carry on


Cmon Joee. I all fairness you never brought any of these high end options before. You were always talking about RCF 12's being better than other 15's. And RCF 15's being better than other 18's.

I started to do the same thing with my Yamaha dxr15s. I no longer use the dsp frequency boost and boost the bass from my mixer. Gives me a lot more power and is very difficult to limit.

the evox 8 system is absolutely better then a lot if single 15" on the market example zlx15p/elx115p

as is the art 905-as better then some 18" on the market that thing hold its own with the kw181

Your definition of bass is different than most. That punchy type works for you.

negative, i do understand what you are saying thou.......my events do require less bass then most

however i use to run with vrx918sp/zxa5, i do understand the sound of quality bass very well

So they have dj Qua, a popular NY/NJ dj preforming at a large event with.....
1. Mismatched tops, one of which is a cheap old Eon. (lol)
2. Inadequately weak tops for room size.
3. Inadequate sub power made worse by placing on stage. (subs lose spl when not coupled with floor).

Yea he should be pissed !

Wouldn't you think he would have a rider with acceptable equipment listed?

Only use Boost at low volumes.
At high volumes, set it to Flat. Speakers are great believe me. I now have 745A & 735A.
My only drawback with the speakers are lack of crossover. RCF 8004 sub is out of my price range so am stuck with my LS801P with external crossover from Rane.

Yeah, because basically people associate the QUALITY of sound with the actual DJ Performance.

I remember our sound being so good back in the day, that it really didn't matter how well someone DJ'ed....Crazy.

Well now no one cares about sound or how well someone DJ's. #SignOfTheTimes.

Pdidy where did you get the ART-745A's for $1150?

Pro Audio Star

Oh ok cool, yeah I was thinking that too but wanted to make sure.

lol

absolutely correct .....client wise, they don't know nothing about sound

point in example ,i recently attended an event at the crystal tea room (upscale in phila) www.yelp.com the room is a lot bigger then 8000 square feet if I'm not mistaken

now the band had two elx118p & two elx112p......the dance floor was packed the whole night everyone had fun

the sound was not adequate for the room, however do you think the client that hired the band cared? everyone danced and was singing all night with the band



wrong, a bad dj will never get called back for repeat gigs or referral



is there anywhere else to shop? i didn't know other stores existed......lol

Nope lol... Been using the connection you referred me to pretty much strictly. The deals are way to solid. Considering order two more vrx subs if my business continues to grow with schools in the next year. Only time I havnt bought from there is when I need some fog juice and guitarcenter was just convienent or getting extra cables for a gig, so only small ticket items.

There are some bad DJ's that work very regularly because alot of folks really don't care about skills as much as they do just having fun.

DJ's worry more about trainwrecks than the party goers.

i would think if the people are having fun then the dj is doing his job...no?



a dj's number one goal is to worry about party goers ,he needs to make sure that the party goers lose there minds dance sing & have fun all night ....every song a dj plays has to be better then the last one he played

Not necessarily. Sometime you want to rotate the floor. This means sometimes switching things up even if you know it may lose some of your dance floor.

????

so if i have the crowd going crazy to Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You

it's fine to play Iggy Azalea- Azillion ,right after?

now ,i have no problem bringing the party up then down then up then down then up up up again.......rotating the dance floor like you said

however it has to be dome right....every song you play has to be better then the last ,period

so how would i "rotate" the dance floor after playing reminisce over you, i would play Gap Band - Outstanding or Frankie Beverly And Maze - Before I Let Go

i stand by what i said .....every single song you play has to be better then the last

So you have the crowd going crazy to Pete Rock - "They Reminisce Over You" and the client who hired you wants you to play Iggy Azalea- "Azillion" immediately because it is their favorite song in the world. What are you going to do?

How about you are DJing a wedding and all the parents of the couple you are DJing for think that the songs you think are the best are terrible and they want to hear some Prince album cuts which they love.

How about the club scenario that you are playing a dope hip hop set and the manager comes up and says that he wants you to immediately switch it to EDM because a big bottle service client wants to hear it?

So you're out of a job?

Truer words never spoken.

I've always had the mindset of the next song has to be better than the last. My job is to increase the instensity of the party atmosphere for a point that you EXPECT the next song to be doper than the last.

I never go back and play a song with a lower dopeness level because I may have "missed it".

How can you keep this up all night you ask? How can you have an infinite amount of songs?

It's called knowing your music...but even still, you can keep the party on tilt by restarting the hypeness by changing genres...

Just be dope in every genre and play with a plan.

easy pick up the mic and say & now by special request from (insert name of client that hired me here) Iggy Azalea- "Azillion


i point at the packed dance floor & keep playing....but only after i tell them ..no problem i got you.....but it never comes on...lol


again pick up the mic & say as per managers request, we are swathing to EDM

lol......you mean i book multiple gigs in one night?......lmao



what????

wait "say that sh!t again they didn't hear you".......lol

Most of the celeb. dj's are horrible, but I guess they get a pass because they are celebs. What about that Pauly D character? I seen him playing shit someone else had mixed.

Holy shit. After all this time you two agree on something. Now that's what's DOPE

lol.....truer word never spoken

it's just how djing is right? are job is to make people have fun all night

not have fun, then be board ....then have fun....then be board .....

make the people have fun all night long.....thats our job, if playing a slow drag or playing edm

Don't get it twisted, I've worked in a bar atmosphere before were I was threatened by the owner to "clear the floor" at times so people would drink.

Once I had them on the floor, they wouldn't come off.

What did I do?

I just focused more on specific genres at certain times...

So instead of playing House that everybody liked, I'd play a little bit more underground for the House heads, and they would pack the floor, then I'd get to a plateau, and hit the reggae, and you'd see the floor swap out for those who wanted the R&B, but now the House Heads hit the bar. Then Club Classics, another swap happens, but the floor stays packed, then finish out with some Reggae that EVERYONE loves...

A good DJ can rotate the floor and keep it packed at the same time, while keeping it hype all night.

Not in this particular market, the dj's rider is generally limited to turntables, CDJ's, mixer, monitor. The PA system is the sole responsibility of the promoter unless otherwise agreed upon. I did a big event with flex and Mr cee a few weeks ago and all they requested was CDJ's, 62, monitor and Mic so I just provided my own setup :) i26.photobucket.com

PA (sound system) riders for dj's are more a thing in the EDM market.

Man, say that *ish AGAIN! lol..

And it's not to discredit them by saying they don't care about the PA, but they're more concerned about what their hands touch.

I see you shimmering Pdidy, get that quap.

I had Red Alert at my spot, and was THRILLED to death that he wanted Turntables, 56s, and an SL3. My exact existing setup.

Easiest setup (for me) for a guest DJ ever...

I'll tell you one thing, ONE person who (at least back in the day) would NOT perform if the PA wasn't booming was Blastmaster KRS-ONE.

We had him at Rutgers back in the 80's and for his MIC CHECK, he made this "Booommmm" sound to make the system rumble (which it did)....He's been known to NOT do a show if there wasn't adequate amplification.

thats when i say would you like me to stop the music completely? threaten ....gtfoh, i wish a nucca would



the sign of a good dj





correct....if I'm playing pete rock & cl smooth the reminisce over you & they are feeling it, chances are they will love deniece williams silly, they may clear the floor but they will lose there minds at the bar......they will sing while ordering drinks

EVERY SONG HAS TO BE BETTER HEN THE LAST!

Was that at The Theater in Riverhead? It's crazy that the sound system is not important to the big named dj's. Being in new york, pdidy have you ever heard of Jim Toth of TimbreTech Audio Services? I use to work with him in the Hamptons at clubs back in late 80's and 90's. I always wanted my portable rigs designed like the club systems, bulletproof, and plenty of headroom. I had to have macrotechs, BSS omni/minidrives, EAW, and all kinds of crazy shit.

Kris has always loved that BOOM-BAP.

Also, Bassboss is releasing a new line of speakers that are suppose to be more price friendly to dj's. While still providing great performance. The line is called DJamBOSS, and so far they plan to release a single 18 and single 21. They have computer generated images that David put on Instagram. He actually is speaking some of the specs of the 21in he posted yesterday.

No, Club Amazura in Queens.
Its not that they don't care or its not important, its just not their responsibility. If they were to enforce these PA riders with hi end systems they would definitely lose a lot of gigs and money because promoters in this market wont pay for them.