Serato Software Feature Suggestions
Pioneer CDJ 900 Nexus & CDJ 900 HID
What features would you like to see in Serato software?
Pioneer CDJ 900 Nexus & CDJ 900 HID
LJ_WOOLSEY
11:37 AM - 1 December, 2013
Hi.
It would be great if in 2014 after 1.6.0 that the Pioneer CDJ 900 & 900Nexus could be HID support in Serato DJ. Not every place has and can afford CDJ 2000s.
So if you own a CDJ 900 or work at a place that has CDJ 900s or just want to add them to your Serato DJ Setup please +1 below.
Cheers.
It would be great if in 2014 after 1.6.0 that the Pioneer CDJ 900 & 900Nexus could be HID support in Serato DJ. Not every place has and can afford CDJ 2000s.
So if you own a CDJ 900 or work at a place that has CDJ 900s or just want to add them to your Serato DJ Setup please +1 below.
Cheers.
deejdave
4:00 AM - 3 December, 2013
I 100% feel the CDJ-900Nexus will be getting HID support with SDJ but unlike the CDJ-2000MK1/Nexus similarities the CDJ-900MK1/Nexus are vastly different................ as far as visually at least.
msoultan
12:24 AM - 6 December, 2013
Yes!! Please! It would SUCK if they didn't support the CDJ 900!!!
msoultan
1:30 AM - 9 December, 2013
I currently run a SL1 and I'll consider upgrading to the SL2 or something above if they're willing to support the CDJ-900s - those decks were a huge investment and I purchased them specifically because they had HID support. Plus, they are *very* comparable to the 2000s, so it would make sense to support them.
deejdave
1:38 AM - 10 December, 2013
Just remember if you plan to use Serato DJ at all you will need to purchase a SL2 or higher anyway as the SL1 will not be supported any further. As far as comparable to the 2000's may I ask what is so similar? Keep in mind as people looks are only skin deep. They both have platters, screens, & buttons but wouldn't the insides be what defines what is/not supported? I would say the CDJ-900Nexus would be the player that is comparable to the 2000/2000NXS no?
msoultan
3:05 AM - 10 December, 2013
The differences are cosmetic in my opinion - the core functionalities are identical. The buttons glow, the wheel glows - yeah, the 2000 has tension adjust (which I've never needed) and a bigger screen (which I don't need with HID). So as far as a media player, they're both pretty much a media player with a platter. Serato obviously justified supporting the 900 (and I think other models) with ScratchLive so I don't see why they wouldn't support it with DJ. The 2000 is cool, but I found no great reasons to purchase them.
deejdave
3:22 AM - 10 December, 2013
Don't get me wrong I fully hope they choose to support the 900 (at the least) but with the addition of the 900Nexus it is looking grim. The differences do go further than that as well. The cue buttons on the CDJ-2000, needle strip search, etc. Many people think the same manner of laptops. I see a screen, keyboard & trackpad. It's always the inside components that matter. Just sayin as I honestly do believe they will support the 900's. I am just trying to add some alternate aspects to the equation.
cheers
cheers
LJ_WOOLSEY
3:53 PM - 16 December, 2013
i just got a new gig and they got CDJ 900 Nexus.
You say there is a massive difference but really there is only few extra buttons than a normal 900. its just the screen and recordbox thats updated on the nexus just like from cdj2000 to 2000 nexus.
here is a side by side pic.
Lets hope they support them both some time soon....
i190.photobucket.com
You say there is a massive difference but really there is only few extra buttons than a normal 900. its just the screen and recordbox thats updated on the nexus just like from cdj2000 to 2000 nexus.
here is a side by side pic.
Lets hope they support them both some time soon....
i190.photobucket.com
deejdave
10:18 PM - 16 December, 2013
I find that interesting being they are not being released until January 2014 www.pioneerelectronics.com
Are you sure they were the 900 Nexus?
No one here claimed there is all that much different but what I did say was that judging ANYTHING simply by how it looks on the outside is not the best option as you never know what's going on inside. Looking at the CDJ-900 Vs. is not all that different from looking at the CDJ-1000 Vs. the CDJ-900 Nexus. Knowing what we know now (as both have been explored thoroughly) the 900 would obviously be more similar to the 900 Nexus than the 1000 but you get the point.
Are you sure they were the 900 Nexus?
No one here claimed there is all that much different but what I did say was that judging ANYTHING simply by how it looks on the outside is not the best option as you never know what's going on inside. Looking at the CDJ-900 Vs. is not all that different from looking at the CDJ-1000 Vs. the CDJ-900 Nexus. Knowing what we know now (as both have been explored thoroughly) the 900 would obviously be more similar to the 900 Nexus than the 1000 but you get the point.
LJ_WOOLSEY
10:37 PM - 16 December, 2013
Yes i djed on them sat night! And had to use timecode with ssl as only the 900 is supported. So would love the nexus support in sdj.
msoultan
10:46 PM - 16 December, 2013
Regardless of look, they all spit out data, and that data can be interpreted by SSL/DJ. If they can support a 2000, they can support a 900, nexus, 850, 400, etc, etc. It's not like Pioneer is going to change their HID implementation for every deck - that would be ridiculous.
deejdave
12:48 AM - 17 December, 2013
You are correct in that they all spit out data and yes they can probably all be supported if they put in the time & effort. I wouldn't go as far as saying the HID code would be identical for each model nor would I assume the 400 is anything like the 2000. HID is not like Midi and is a more precise code from what I have gathered. Also keep in mind there is not much room for customization so the lack of key buttons poses a problem for the 900MK1 users as well. Doesn't mean it is impractical nor does it mean it will be inferior.............. just different. Like I said they made it sound like they will be adding the 900MK1 to the list by hinting but you never know. Until it happens it's anyone's guess. My only drawback is it's very easy to make claims from the sidelines (as I did when they did't support the Nexus's with SSL) but unless you are the team in charge of doing it it's all guesses and not of any substance. Just remember just because they CAN does not mean they WILL. Ask any Denon user about this. The technology is there it's just a matter of licensing and such. Don't get me wrong I am 1000% on the side of support for all players within reason. I agree with getting Pioneer players supported 850 & up. The 350 would be a bonus but anything above that I feel should definitely get the support. The 400 is an older technology so I don't see that happening. All guesses & opinions at this point though. Let's just hope for a positive outcome.
msoultan
1:07 AM - 17 December, 2013
HID is just a different way of spitting out data - so the pitch fader of a 900 (and probably the same for a 2000) puts out about 1000+ data points vs 128 for MIDI (I've looked at the raw USB data), so it's just a matter of interpolating that information and assigning it to a function. They've already proven that they can do it for a bunch of players, so it would seem odd that they couldn't figure out how to do it again.
deejdave
1:25 AM - 17 December, 2013
Again. Not saying they couldn't. This word keeps rearing its ugly head. It's not about whether they can or not it's about whether they WILL or not. I believe Serato has the know how & capabilities to support ANY type of input device but that does not mean they will. Serato is a business first & foremost. When making business decisions the first question that comes up is "is the juice worth the squeeze" and that is completely up to them.
deejdave
1:56 AM - 17 December, 2013
Two steps beyond obvious it just needs to be said with all of the in-home uber secret coder's giving their two cents as to how easy it would be to do this which is just as obvious. If they can do it for the most advanced player the CDJ-2000Nexus they can very easily do it for all of the lower models which functions get smaller & simpler as the model #'s go down so yes obvious to most but not always the case.
raequan
2:23 AM - 17 December, 2013
the 850 is the cheapest full size cdj that is native hid to SSL
850's hid in serato dj ill wait but if i got to spend money to replace my 850's thats 8 months old ... wow the price jump to 900nexus is killing me even worse 2000 nexus.... i might have to go the denon 2900 but i want my hid.....
what da hell im crying about i do have ddj-sx. but that doesnt help when you dj weddings and a person gives you a cd to play.
well everyone enjoy there cdj900 + nexus hid mode.
850's hid in serato dj ill wait but if i got to spend money to replace my 850's thats 8 months old ... wow the price jump to 900nexus is killing me even worse 2000 nexus.... i might have to go the denon 2900 but i want my hid.....
what da hell im crying about i do have ddj-sx. but that doesnt help when you dj weddings and a person gives you a cd to play.
well everyone enjoy there cdj900 + nexus hid mode.
deejdave
2:25 AM - 17 December, 2013
Yah do yourself a favor and avoid the Denon. You have NO hope of HID support with that route.
Jamie W
2:26 AM - 17 December, 2013
Hey Raequan,
You could always setup a CDJ on the side of your DDJ-SX and plug into one of the line inputs on your DDJ-SX, so you could mix a CD?
HID wont help you in that situation.
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what da hell im crying about i do have ddj-sx. but that doesnt help when you dj weddings and a person gives you a cd to play.You could always setup a CDJ on the side of your DDJ-SX and plug into one of the line inputs on your DDJ-SX, so you could mix a CD?
HID wont help you in that situation.
deejdave
2:31 AM - 17 December, 2013
lol actually yeah what does HID have to do with playing a CD on the CDJ?
raequan
2:55 AM - 17 December, 2013
You could always setup a CDJ on the side of your DDJ-SX and plug into one of the line inputs on your DDJ-SX, so you could mix a CD?
yes that true but now thats more to carry around.
i just got the 62 i hated setting up the sl box with the 3700 and x1600.
with the 62 just change from usb to source and the same with the cdj switch from hid mode to cd mode.... no extras....
i have done it a few times already in SSL... i like to keep things simple and effective.
yes that true but now thats more to carry around.
i just got the 62 i hated setting up the sl box with the 3700 and x1600.
with the 62 just change from usb to source and the same with the cdj switch from hid mode to cd mode.... no extras....
i have done it a few times already in SSL... i like to keep things simple and effective.
LJ_WOOLSEY
7:53 AM - 17 December, 2013
Now just need the 900 Nexus Support! Hopefully that make it in the next update??
LJ_WOOLSEY
1:29 PM - 18 December, 2013
Are you sure they were the 900 Nexus?
In Europe they have been on sale. maybe US is later or just sold out?
Jamie W Do you guys have any time frame on CDJ900Nexus Support at all?
Why don't you open your own Feature request for this player? This is about the CDJ 900 & 900Nexus.
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I find that interesting being they are not being released until January 2014 www.pioneerelectronics.comAre you sure they were the 900 Nexus?
In Europe they have been on sale. maybe US is later or just sold out?
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Go check this link out team ;) serato.comJamie W Do you guys have any time frame on CDJ900Nexus Support at all?
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can we get cdj 850 hid in the next updateQuote:
Need CDJ850 Support in Serato DJ 1.6!!!Why don't you open your own Feature request for this player? This is about the CDJ 900 & 900Nexus.
Jamie W
7:40 PM - 18 December, 2013
Hey LJ_Woolsey,
Sorry man, I don't have any info on that at this stage.
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Jamie W Do you guys have any time frame on CDJ900Nexus Support at all?Sorry man, I don't have any info on that at this stage.
evillevi
3:54 PM - 19 December, 2013
What I don't get is that the 900 gets support first, and not the 900 nexus?
LJ_WOOLSEY
4:16 PM - 19 December, 2013
900Nexus is really new! So maybe Pioneer have not sent one out to Serato yet? Or Serato have not paid for one (However it works)
I Would hope to see it in 1.6.1 fingers crossed.
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What I don't get is that the 900 gets support first, and not the 900 nexus?900Nexus is really new! So maybe Pioneer have not sent one out to Serato yet? Or Serato have not paid for one (However it works)
I Would hope to see it in 1.6.1 fingers crossed.
deejdave
10:29 PM - 19 December, 2013
Also let us not forget the fact that they are not even available (at least in the U.S.) yet and they finally just announced it (formally) two days ago. forums.pioneerdj.com
Woolsey probaly correct with the 1.6.1 though.
Woolsey probaly correct with the 1.6.1 though.
DJRobKraze
11:26 PM - 27 December, 2013
My CDJ 900 nexus shipped today from AGIPRODJ
Serato please add HID support in next update for SDJ
Serato please add HID support in next update for SDJ
Unclebnz1
6:09 PM - 4 February, 2014
+1
I just got my CDJ-900 Nexus and I'm just looking at them like they are expensive controllers. I don't want to get used to Rekordbox. Please Serato, add HID support soon.
I just got my CDJ-900 Nexus and I'm just looking at them like they are expensive controllers. I don't want to get used to Rekordbox. Please Serato, add HID support soon.
LJ_WOOLSEY
8:34 AM - 25 February, 2014
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Cdj900 is supported in 1.6.0 but the cdj900nexus is not.
Unclebnz1
1:15 AM - 20 March, 2014
When is support for CDJ 900 Nexus coming? I hope before these decks get replaced
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