Also which of the two brands are good for big parties

Thanks gilbert jacinto... I went to my local store and heard both speakers and from what i heard the QSC K12s had more of a highs the lows and the evs have more bang and the highs as well... But many say the QSCs are the best but inwould like to know in what so it can make me decide for them... The guy at my local store also said that with the qsc k12 you would have to buy a sub so then it would sound excellent ...

What is a big party ?

Meaning for parties of 200-300

you'll want a sub

Any speaker you choose you will néed a sub for 200-300 people.

Oook... But getting back to the speakers... Anymore feedback Evs Elx 115p or Qsc k12s

K12

Yamaha DXR-12. Better speaker, better warranty and cheaper.

You'll need a sub, man. My suggestion would be to purchase 12" cabinets along with subs. That would get ya started to handle "big parties". Even those 15's will struggle by themselves.

Qsc vs EV is your call. I heard both and went with qsc because I preferred the sound, the 6 year warranty and the fact they are manufactured 20 minutes from my home in case I need to send them in for repairs.

I heard both at my local store and qsc k12 only heard more highs and mid than lows and the EVs overall heard great and great bass... The guy at my atore told me for the qsc i would have to buy a sub for them so i can hear the real sound that everyone says the qsc gives...

How much are you looking to spend?

Im going for the best if im going to buy a pair of speakers might as well buy something thats going to last and have durability

Imo, qsc is the way to go due to their track record. Take a look at the kw152 cabinet. If you do plan on buying a sub then go with the kw122.

Check out the EV zxa5 too. Much pricier (about $3k a pair) but one of the best powered tops for mobile sound. Although, for that kinda money you can get two quality tops AND a sub or two that will work well for your parties.

I still don't understand why people insist on comparing brands with two different size speakers.

Between the 2 choices, qsc. But seriously, if you have a chance, take a listen to the yamahas, for the reasons rebelguy stated.

whats your budget aka the most you can spend ?

Well, I think dude is worried about a total solution. If his dollars are tight and he can't afford a sub, the better solution would probably be the EV ELX115P because they'll sound more full range, standalone, in comparison to the QSC K12 standalone solution.

A direct speaker comparison between these two is not apples-to-apples... the ELX115P vs. the KW15 is a direct comparison.

If dude wants the better long-term solution, it's easily the K12 over the ELX115P. You get two light 12" tops now and add the QSC KW181 for bass when the budget permits. You then have good speakers that have a 6-year warranty and good resale value.

Dj gaffle... As what you said about the qsc and having to buy a sub with it to have a good speaker its the same. What the guy a my local atore said ... And ur right about the evs they sound full range standalone

Keep in mind like someone above posted, if you go the ELX route, be prepared to budget for some speaker covers. Without them, your ELX's wood will chip/dent like crazy and the grills are very thin.

I own the EV 115's and 112's. They both sound great and I can't say anything bad about them. Ok, maybe except for def needing covers for them..but I'd keep the k12's covered too. The k12's are real good but I do feel they can be painfully shrill when pushed. I will also second the Yamaha drx or dsx series...awesome speakers but those EV's are solid competitors for way less.

Thanks for all your opinions guys ... Really appreciated

I find the k12s have decent bass for about 100 tops (and that's more for your corporate/wedding type gigs) but any more and you'll want a sub...

I own 4 EV ELX115Ps. I just came home from DJing a corporate party for one of the Microsoft divisions in Seattle. 300+ people all mingling around a large room with very high ceiling (like more than 30 feet high, it was in a museum)...I only used two ELX115P speakers. The master volume was at 3 o'clock position, the line volume was only at about 1 o'clock position with plenty of headroom on my mixer. Full range and flat EQ setting. Both speakers facing the dancefloor that's maybe 12' x 12' with anywhere from 10-30 people dancing (corporate gig on a weekday, not too poppin').

The EVs were loud, punchy and clear. Acoustics of the room was definitely not great, but it was so loud that I did not even need my monitor speaker which I normally use. Mixer's master volume and line trim volume did not exceed 12 o'clock position. Speakers were only warm to the touch at the end of the night. Even if there were much more people dancing, the EVs would still do the job, without sub(s).

I play on a QSC K12 system on the weekends at a lounge. Room size about 30' x 15'. Two K12s hooked up to two QSC KW181 subs. Anywhere from 20-80 people dancing or mingling around. It sounds great, especially with a Rane 62 mixer.

QSC K/KW12 series are top notch, but the EV Live X 15" sound just as good and maybe even better (depends on whose opinion influences you). But I don't believe you would be disappointed with either brand/model.

Thanks for the feedback discobee... I find the evs sound better maybe because of the wooden cabinet but yea ... Leaning more towards the Evs

I have two Elx115p's. for the price they are hard to beat. I have played on qsc 12's and they are deff nice and slightly better speaker quality wise - but lack low end, and the price diff doesn't make up for it. The jbl 615ms are nice too but unless you can get a good deal on them your better of with the other two options mentioned.

As everyone has said, get covers if you can, they scratch and chip super easy (im thinking of rhino lining mine). If you have money to blow, I'd go with the zxa5 or xlf jbls. If you can't afford a sub with either setups, EV's deff have a fuller sound.

For that matter, I used to own them as well. I let my KJ use them for Karaoke gigs. My boy DJ'd my wedding with only a pair and they were very adequate and sounded really full. The ballroom we were in was huge and approximately 140 people attended. The dance floor had a good 70 on it. I sold them because I had too many speakers and let the KJ run with my RCF 312A's.

BTW, I had Tuki covers for my EV's @ $65 each.
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I have the EV'S and so far no problems. I used them once with a sub & once without. Never has the limit light came on & I was pushing them hard. But I'm trying to get feed back on the EV Sub, I don't think they work as good as the 115p's

Whats up forum do you think 3 K12's and 2 181 subs can handle a bar with let's say 2-300 people ,hip hop crowd 21-30 .Keep in mind you know younger crowds like more bass.

i would do 3 sub & 2 tops that set up will work just fine for what you want

Why don't you wait to see what NAMM shows as far as new speakers go. We already know EV has some new gear coming out.

Ok Joee ,that's kind of what I was thinking...I'm doing rentals now and I was just curious how I would service that crowd....
CQE- great advice also ,I was basically trying to see also if what I had would be enough
Thanks to you both

do you own these speakers already? if not there are better options that cost less & sound better than the qsc k12 for example --> www.markertek.com

and waiting for namm is also a great idea…..your just hours away from new gear announcements

85lbs? F that!

^ huh?

I clicked the link and it went to the Yamaha speaker and it said that it weighs 85 lbs.

the link is for a yamaha dxr12 witch sounds better than the qsck12 and only weighs 42lbs

So the 85lbs spec by the Add To Cart part is a mistake must be...

yep--> usa.yamaha.com

that's more like it!

Hi, I am DJ Sweet Lady Jay, I am in the market to buy two(2) powered speaker's and I am leaning towards the QSC's K 12s. Currently, I have four (4) Mackie 450's and Two (2) 1501's.

I want to use my subs underneath the K 12's I want to know if my subs will be sufficient to enhance my sound. My speakers are for sale Four speakers for $1200.00....email me if interested... Wandabutler101@gmail. com

I think the Yamaha DXRs sound nicer and are also cheaper and have a better warranty than the K12s these days.

The only real plus of the K12s is they are pretty time tested and they are built in the US rather than China.

Best buy would be K10s and a some kind of sub… If you're looking to make the most return for investment and you're looking for bang for buck while looking under 1.5k then the K12s are your best bet. I know this is old, but thought some people would have a look at this since we all go thru it at some point.

yea well i went for the EVs ELX 115p… haven't had issues and sound great … but now that 2014 is here would like to know what could be an upgrade… i saw EV has coming out new ETX series… any feedback on those??

ETX15P
or
ZXA5

but be prepared to spend more than $1,000 per box

Do you think its a competition for others like JBL or QSC??

there is no speaker for $1,350 that can compete with a EV ZXA5