Just watched episode 3 (VH1's streaming sucks). DJ Dimepiece needs to get it together or they'll send her packing. The judges made the right decision in releasing the gimmicks. This show is about DJ'ing... and selling liquor. :-)

Look like they interviewed Cut Chemist again for the hip-hop challenge.... goodbye thread!









Finally got an IP blocker for Firefox that works, watching now

Episode 3
- did that Ben dude give someone props for NOT wearing headphones?
- Cut Chemist looked real awkward at the Smirnoff bar (can't blame him)
- there is no crying in dj'ing!
- meh... it's a TV show

Yep, that was Dynamix. He doesn't always DJ without headphones but with the planned, threestyle type shit there is no need for them.

Twitter blowing up tonight on this ep airing ATM

Anyone else notice the huge QSC branding this year?

Dammit! Missed IT Again!

I'm sorry, but the 62 promotes "no headphones DJing" with that cue system. Using that cue slows you down dramatically.

LMAO! Deez you REALLY hate that cue system man...This is like the 3rd time I heard you bash it.

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

It was def hard to change after 15+ years of the headphone fader

Dimepiece gotta go talking bout shes hearing both songs in the headphones WTF and almost all of em was playing the same damn songs.

Wait whats the new cue system

Individual cue buttons for each channel, plus a knob to change between cue and master versus the cue fader and master/cue button found on the 57 and 56. You can't have a cue fader with more than 2 channels, so I understand the logic. I just don't like it.

Sad thing is the Rane 62 isn't a hard mixer to master. Especially when all the DJ's have plenty of time backstage to practice on it. No excuse.Focus on the basic DJ fundamentals. Royale should have stayed and Dime Piece should have been gone. Dead air TWICE! *smh*

It takes some getting used to, it's a lot like the pioneer djm series
Which is the major reason I preferred the cue fader over the buttons.
Not a pioneer fan.

But at least all the people who were begging for split cue finally got it (there were a lot of people asking for that)

I'm shocked she (dime piece ) is still there after that
That was a day 1 fuck up...bush league

At least royale, as bad as it was was trying to do some intermediate shit and failed.

But as we all know, dudes rather watch her fail, than a dude succeed.

A good, well rounded DJ should be well versed in most industry standard mixers IMO. (Rane/Pioneer industry standards) I actually prefer the cue buttons over the fader.



Pretty sure Dime Piece will be gone the next episode. Place your bets!

ive never seen a 62 in a club install that didnt offer a djm 800/900 as well. 57 had a piece of the pie, but 68/62's never got there where im at.

There's a place I VJ at here in Pittsburgh that opened last year and there house setup is a Rane 68/CDJ 200's.

weird setup, like getting 200$ rims on a 50k car. although i like the 200s.

Most clubs I've seen usually offer the Pioneer variety of mixers. I've seen a couple of clubs have the 57, but yet to come across a 61 or 62. I definitely want a 61 for myself.

Anyone else notice some parts that were dubbed last night? The judges heads were nodding much slower than what was being played and then Chris Kearns tweet to Jayceeoh confirmed it.

I do admit it was a little overkill for a VJ setup. Also a little learning "curve" coming from my 62. As well as playing on CDJ 2000's. So many shiny buttons. lol!

Your just now figuring that out? lol! It's super edited/dubbed. There was an original MOTM thread I started when the season started, but it got derailed and the admins locked it. LOL!

+1
you gotta remember that IT'S A TV SHOW and that 99% of the judge/crowd reaction you see is stock footage or footage from someone else's performance.

I had read that it was dubbed, but last night was just way too obvious. I'm listening to the song and watching the judges nods and I'm like nah this ain't even right.

ah, you said 200s at first, 2000s make more sense with that level mixer.

Yeah and you KNOW jayceeoh did more than just flip California love for his entire set.
(As depicted in the episode)
Gotta love editing.

Full sets will probably be uploaded later today....

www.thefuture.fm

Ooooohh...my numark has that

Waits for torch to claim its not dubbed

I've finally gotten around to recording the show so I'll go and watch it now.

Man, I don't know who had/has the biggest upside, Dimepiece or Royale. I would rather go to a club with Dimepiece spinning but based on what's shown on the show, I would have eliminated her a couple of episodes ago. I'm gonna need DJ Tina T to blow the dust off the left turntable once in a while too.

(nm)

again, if these chicks were dudes, they would be avg to terrible.

Dj Revolution talks with Tina T about the show. Real talk. Fast forward a bit for the interview.

Watchwww.youtube.com

damn, they going in... rev pulls no punches :)

ive seen mia moretti dj first hand, shes not bad in a very average way, the violin thing is wack imo. To me she had a planned set that she plays at every event. I think she just sounds dumb and has like rev says its like she doesnt really know the culture.

+1

Just watched that.

Season 4 full sets are online. www.thefuture.fm

Dimepiece needs to go. IMO, she is the least skilled of all the remaining contestants. If that was a dude, he'd be gone.

That DJ Hohme guy had cleaner mixes that DJ Dimepiece. They just didn't like him cause he used an iPad.

(very closed minded judges if you ask me)

lol...that was all kid capris doing

take away the ipod and you have a dj that mixes and twist knobs to 128-130 bpm tracks. (boring)
Sounds like he is a decent producer though

Compared to the other DJ's on the show that do alot more.

I listened to the full sets on thefuture.fm and she actually had another moment when the music cut off. It sounded like she hit the fader or something, but there were definitely two audio dropouts during her set. I was pretty surprised that she didn't get cut.

The producers must be feening for her to cry some more. If she didnt well up with tears twice already the bish woulda got booted.


Who the fuck is the herb on the judges panel that no ones ever heard of? Serious? They couldnt find another DJ?


Sup with the chick judge (never heard of her either but i guess shes at least a DJ) crying when dimepiece fucked up her set?


This show is wack, why the fuck do i keep watching it.

Dime Piece was horrible, worse than B Hen. No way she should still be on that show. Not even sure how she made it pass the audition.

2 Things...

Being Female and Black in a White Male dominated "art".

She got a pass....for the moment....

I wish I had something like a Tina T's Camp Spinoff to go to when I was a teenager.

...said NoCred.

fixed

Oh, so you're gonna follow me from thread to thread?


Well,where are my manners?---> djjohnnym.com/serato/nothnks.gif

Lol. You mad?

Pussy

Why would I be mad? You supply TONS of material....

LMAO...

Because it works - > Watchwww.youtube.com

Lol. Yeah you mad.

Too much of a pussy to battle me and to much of a dumbass to keep your mouth shut. Hahaha!

I can assure you, I'm am FAR from mad...

You're the best entertainment I've had in quite some time...

And I"ll be here all week...

Look, I know you'd kill me in a Frankfurter Eating Battle, so I'll give you that, but at this point YOU are the one who sounds "MAD"...

Again, where are my manners? -> www.djjohnnym.com

Your attempts to BAIT me are futile, yet entertaining....

lmao @ "Bait"...

Lol. I don't need to bait you. Everyone already knows you're scared. It's a done deal. And I stay on your mind. Sheeeit you talkin all these gay fantasies and all. I think you really got a crush on me. Hahaha! Pussy.

But wait, you're following me from thread to thread?

lol...

Well if you're gonna keep following me, I'm sure I'll be broadcasting later...

I'll play some FAT beats for you...

LMAO...

Lol. You're already broadcasting, girl. Bahaha! Broadcasting to everyone who lays eyes on your bullshit that you're a scared bitch who turns legit threads to shot with your nonsensical ramblings. Grrrrl! Lol

Again, your fascination with imagining that the man you're talking to is a woman....

Consider this an intervention....

Lets not lock the MOTM thread again.

Take the dick measuring contest to twitter

No imagination. You're a straight up bitch. Now I'm gonna leave this thread so you don't lock up yet ANOTHER thread with your bullshit. Go ahead. I now give you permission to have the last word, pussy.

LMAO!

You're gonna LEAVE this thread?

HA HA

FAT CHANCE

www.djjohnnym.com

Yet YOU are the one who uses "Language" that would get this thread locked.....

:-).

It is effortless to keep you flustered....

The Ability To Control One's Emotions Across The Internet Is Astounding - DJ Johnny M

Sorry if I "step on anyone's toes", but, reading the same 20,000 character quotes over and over is exhausting to me and my iPhone's battery. Please spend the extra 3 seconds and only quote the relevant part. I should hope that we're all computer savvy enough to figure out how to do it.

Oh, and, I was afraid they wouldn't even make season three so I'm excited to see the return of the only DJ show I'm aware of on TV at all!

Ibtl seems fitting

OK, I just watched the last episode where DJ Royale was eliminated. The only reason Dime is still on the show is because of the female judge, period. You can't have quiet time in a club.

Mike_P, if you want to say the same worthless nonsense in multiple threads go and find another forum to hang out on.

Chris Karns - Master of the Mix Episode 4 "Speak With Your Hands" Full Set
youtu.be

2011 DMC winner. That dude is bad ass.

ay
I couldn't watch the show anymore. It was really making a mockery out of djing. Especially that they are even letting you hear less of the mixes. But what in the burning hell is goin on here? Why is there plex in this thread. Why does it seem like Johnny is always getting into it with people? Not trying to say he's a shit starter, but he is somewhat certified and proven in the things that he says as being truth.
yep

they were equally terrible.

True but she was terrible 2 weeks straight.

pathetic.

ay
If you notice, it's actually the same cast of 4 characters in rotation....
yep.

See?

how has there not been a thread to vote to ban him yet

There we go.

sweet:
Watchwww.youtube.com

saw that comin:
Watchwww.youtube.com

girl on girl
Watchwww.youtube.com

LOL @ djaction's avatar today! "His dick's got a six pack" (no homo)

DJ Chris Karns and DJ incrediboy killed it last night.

^^this

Did any of you guys catch the trailer for the VH1 show "Hit The Floor" with the basketball court on fire?

I DJ'd their wrap party on Sunday...there are some hot as women on that show!

^^^lucky ass lol

Good Question....

And since you like creating threads in my honor -> serato.com

Why don't you continue your tradition?

I'm sure the board would love that as a topic of conversation....

I concur...

Not to use up a lot of thread space, but to answer your inquiry real quick...

My Ability only stems from the opponent's inability to keep their emotions in check. We may have a difference of opinion, then the opponent says something slick, and I usually retort with something equally slick, and they take it personal.

I only respond to what's being put out there. :-)

For example this discussion was back on track until YOU revived the derailment at 10:35 AM - 30 April, 2013 with and here we are.

As a last point, I fully accept the name "The Deceased"...

Why?

Because if you think about it, say you "Killed" me, I should be dead...

However, you keep "Ressurecting" "The Dead", "Beating a Dead Horse", etc, to forever haunt you.

To think that I can actually STILL have the Power I did "Alive" ALSO when I'm "Dead" is bringing my infamy to the next level...

And for that, I thank you.

Sincerely,

The Deceased....

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...

I think I'll be here for the next hour or so, so I may be able to catch the last episode online...

Stay tuned.

Yo...seriously...take that shit to another thread.

I could have SWORN Kid Capri was of Hispanic descent...

Half Black, Half Italian?

Who knew?

I thought he was Puertoricaño until he told DJ Incrediboi he represented the Bronx when he was clearly reppin' Puerto Ricans on one of those episode challenges.

Welp, Dime Piece has used all her lifelines...

What's good with the Non-DJ judges? They're EASILY swayed...

BUT on the other hand, Kid Capri said something about "That's the Chris Kearns he knows", which leads you to believe, he has a certain expectation of him...I mean OK, he is a DMC champ and all, but it's all still biased.

It's a combination of your DJ Skills and what your "Life Story" is that keeps you on.

Whack.

I totally agree with you however, when it came to Dime Piece it was the latter and Mia Moretti feeling sorry for her.

What is it with these competitions where people work the sympathy card to get ahead? It should be about the skills, period.

How is Dime Piece, Royale, Fly Guy even in the same league as a Chris Karnes? Seriously?

As far as Kid Capri, shit I'm Puerto Rican and I thought he was Puerto Rican...guess we don't all look alike after all. LMFAO.

I really think MOTM is also designed to let some DJ's who SHOULD be getting WAY more an avenue to do so, albeit scripted.

For example, I've been saying for YEARS that DJ Scratch hadn't been getting his just due...

Boom, MOTM, and now he's a household name...

I'm still mad that Kid Capri was to "Judge" him, but I see the bigger picture.

I think this time it's gonna be Chris Kearns aka Varja.

Not a conspiracy theorist, but MAYBE someone was mad behind the scenes (Kid Capri), that cats WEREN'T getting their just due and shine.

I still say that Jazzy Jeff didn't get as much mainstream appeal as he does NOW until after he linked up with DJ AM for a few rounds..

So, in a world of DJ Paris Hilton's who have the POTENTIAL to MISREPRESENT the art, somebody MAY be pulling some strings...

Just sayin...

speculation time....

whats Karns gonna do with that mixdeck he won?

LOL! mixdeck

Craigslist!!

I know who wins i know who wins.

But ive been sworn to secrecy.

...not cool CMOS.

I know too, I have a delorean.

Show is heating up though. This season seems to be a bit smoother than previous years.

they should make a show called bastard of the mix, and the djs that party the hardest and gets laid the most without dying(hiv, exboyfriend, drugs/alcohol) wins

The irony of that was that part of the show's contracts they cant talk about being drunk or wasted or "party'ing"

Sign me up!!!

white male dominated?....lol...now that was funny

That is ironic. They give drinks to the DJs but they can't talk about it...

"Sigel Sigel in da house..."

Dang dude, your avatar had me trippin' for a sec: www.sohh.com

(nm) (no diss)

I didn't say they were BETTER..... :-)

Dont know if anyone else noticed but at the end Dimepiece admitted shes a radio dj...... Now it makes a lot more sense, normally radio dejays dont use decks, and use a system that auto cues it for them......

It was already known shes a radio dj. i believe she does have a mixshow.

just more reality tv, and low budget at that. LOTS of editing. we all know whos gonna be there in the end. My $ is on Dawe or Jayceeo. most well rounded...

mia moretti makes me want to quit djing

I really like this season, they have more talented DJ's than previous seasons. I also like how the challenges are all about spinning unlike previous seasons. I think people are bitching about the editing too much, there obviously isn't enough time to air everyone's full set. At least they have the full sets available online.

Anyway, I'm rooting for Dynamixx... the dude does it all, tone play, word play, super devastating cuts, really tight juggles, really fun blends, he is such a problem:)

I'm glad they finally got rid of dime piece, she is wack! Hopefully Fly Guy goes next and then it will be all dope DJ's left.

Really Dimepiece is a decent club dj. I djed with her and jiji sweet and they both got the party jumping. I don't like the show and stop watching it cause its phony. how would you let a ipod player even get that far in the show better yet even on the show.

I'm sure Dimepiece is a decent club dj, maybe I shouldn't have said she was wack... but she def looks wack when put next to people like Vajra and Dynamix

I thought it was funny that they had to play a latin song and 95% of them played pitbull.

Yes it was, but sadly, I have in my library, Lambada or Shakira if someone wants to hear. :(
Pitbull it is. LOL

^^^^

Dont lie you know you have Suavemente also.

I would have to use a lifeline on that.

Actually I have a ton of Latin based tracks (Raoul Zerna, Rivera, ect ect), but nothing native or original.

Would have been c&c music factory for me.
Lol....
I'm about as Latin as Snake Pliscan

Can't go wrong with Gloria Estaphan
She lives right there.

Then again, who knows...
We never know what they really play anyways until later thanks to the editing and overdubbing

Man, I had to do a quick search, but yes, I guess I do have that! Huh, never knew that. I also have Danza Kudoro and Pintame. Go figure. I need to look at my library more often LOL

Dimepiece just wasn't a well rounded enough dj for this competition. From what I saw and listening to the full sets, she sounded like a novice who only has a few years at most under her belt. She can't scratch and doesn't play anything else other than radio hip hop & R&B. She wouldn't stand a chance at a Thre3style competition. If that was a guy, he wouldn't have even made the cut.

IMHO, the best well rounded dj in the competition is Dynamix.

I agree. I have respect for her, but she disappointed me. She stated that she didn't have much knowledge on the mixer, however if I knew I was going to be in a battle and didn't have the suspected mixer that I was required to use (that's if she didn't know what mixer she was required to use) I would of had purchased that mixer prior to going to the battle and learned it. Its a quarter million dollars. Bring your A game.

I don't buy that "I'm not comfortable with the mixer" bull shit at all. Thats just a piss poor excuse. It's a fucking mixer.... ffs the 62 has 2 upfaders, a cross fader and separate channel EQ's just like everything else. If you are uncomfortable with all the extra features you don't have to use them.

Word!

Most def, especially with the 62. I feel like the 62 is the easiest mixer in the world to use. I laugh at the DJs in my city when the are scared to touch it.

Tina T mentioned in an interview that they are limited by what labels and songs they can choose for rights issues with the show. This could be the reason why you don't see some obvious choices played for some of the challenges and why you hear the same songs repeated in sets.

She mentioned that a lot of downtime is spent researching and digging which songs are cleared and there wasn't a master list to go by, just certain labels and artists so it required work.

I kept expecting to hear this version since they played it 18 times on the show Watchwww.youtube.com

Chris Karns Ode to Miami Full Set

Watchwww.youtube.com

this guy stays killing shit!!!

I know the station she works at and the setup is 2 12s and a 57 last I checked.

+1 And from a battle perspective, he's right on par with the almighty DJ Precision.

Dude is a beast.

Real dope!

It will be between him and Incrediboy at the end and Chris coming out on top.

I told y'all...

Chris is gonna win it...

DJ's putting DJ's on who SHOULD be getting shine....

So....
Brian and Tina are done-ski.

But...... Tina is back.

Which is B.S... Why bring her back but not Brian?? She did 1 scratch in that last challenge. Brian carried her.

I figured that was going to happen. Either nobody got cut or only one person was cut.

because she's gots a purrrty mouth.

Dam, LOL.
It's bullshit. Mia probably had something to do with it.
Master of the Mix, no cred...

Guess they gotta keep their females viewership up or else they wouldnt have said who was returning. They would have kept you in suspense til next week just to see who returns.

www.facebook.com

yeah, they def are.

Real question here. Do any of you know of anyone who isn't a DJ or related (by blood or marriage) to a DJ who watches the show???

Nope. I think only DJs watch it. However, one non-DJ I know will check in every now and then to check on her baby daddy to use it in a child-suppport case...

Ya but now adays everyones a damn dj

Wow

Yup. Grandma at the church telling everyone she rocks the 1 and 2... Getting paid, tucci...

Dj Dynamix is the most creative. Dj Chris Karns ( Vajra ) is the most talented. I would pick either. But as far as rocking any party at any given time I would have to say Dynamix. Even though he is not a better turntablist.

Its crazy to think Chris Karns don't normally get booked to do party rocking gigs and he is good as he is. Im seeing him get better all the time and thats hard to do when your already one of the best already. Humble Dude thats is a beast on the tables. Probably one of the best DMC djs ever ( Him & Craze ).

I remember a few years back Qbert played with vajra and Qbert said he is the best dj in the world. I can see why. That last Miami Set Karns did was sick and showed how well rounded he really is. Props to Dynamix also. Hoping its these 2 in the end. Whoever wins deserves it.

LMAO!

Gotta agree.

From what I see as a big picture at this point in the show, I see Dynamix with an edge as he more well rounded for this type of competition. His older Thre3style sets are on point as well where they both competed against each other.

For some reason, I see Kid Capri highly favoring Incrediboi...

Just saw the Dime Piece elimination...

Whew....

Yo, Chris Kearns KILLLLLLLLLLEEEEEDDDD IT...

I was actually applauding dude watching it on the laptop...

Yep, he's gonna take it...

Deserves it.

I agree , I see Capri paying attention to Incrediboi more than anyone. He is good but not on the level to beat Karns or Dynamix.
I hope its them in the end. Jayceeo is the third pick for me. He is really good at what he does.

Ok, why did they bring Tina back?

W
T
F?

Yeah, that whole female judge thing is killin' it...

Not that it had too much....



















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CRED! ANYWAYS!
















lmao..

Chris Kearns is a technician.

He will win it.

Not really. Which tells me the show needs better producers to give it whatever flavor it's missing so it has... Mass Appeal!

pauly d or tiesto as a judge...lol

Paula D doesn't get much love in here (even though he's gotten more airtime than all of us put together), but I bet even the haters would rather see him judge than this years nube judges.

oh i know... i was being funny

... Right and you bring up an excellent point.
Bring back one of the winners of MOTM and have them judge.

I say they bring in Jazzy Jeff to judge...a judge who can actually mix...

i second that

For sure.

I don't think that's a bad idea at all.

ok how does everyone know that Tina Ti came back I do not see a new episode posted yet

www.vh1.com

41:12

full preview of Week 7

www.youtube.com

she was the only chick that could marginally dj. they had to bring her back.

So. They eliminated her and she should not be on the show. If they bring her back they should bring him back as well and call that show a wash. The next show eliminate 3, she will still be 1 of the 3 to be eliminated.

If she indeed returns, the show lost what little cred it has.

I look at it this way. If she got fired from her Vegas job because she didn't bring the crowds in and they going someone else that could, would they bring her back because she's a female DJ? Nope.

Ummmm, it's a TV show, with writers, producers, etc.... credibility has never been a part of it.

Guess your right.

I must sadly agree. I believe they're working demographics if my memory of the definition is correct. And as much as I'd love to b!tch about it, it's the only show on TV I'm aware of representing DJ's at all right now. So I'm feeling like beggars can't be choosers. Guess I'll just hope it stays on for a few seasons and improves. Or maybe even starts a trend and other DJ shows will pop up.

Kinda conspicuous that Vajra changed his stage name immediately prior to the premiere of season 3. Maybe to adapt a more "corporate" identity? Spend a year as Chris Karns repping Smirnoff and return in 2014 as Vajra. Makes sense to me...

^^hmmmm very observant....

may be it was the viagra .....vajra c'mon sounds the same

honestly viagra was the first sound that came through my mind when a saw vajra nm

Fly Guy, your record has been scratched...bye bye.
Now the real contest begins. Should be really good from this point on.

Fly Guy didn't stand a chance in this competition. I saw that a mile away.

Agreed Im gonna audition again next year. I will be ready next year I auditioned with incrediboi cool dude we stood in line for like 8 hour choppin it up. He made it I didnt dude is doper that people give credit for.

Incrediboi is very dope IMO. He's clean and neat with it.

True true...

He said he hates the name. Always had to explain what it means and got asked a LOT. He changed 90 percent of his vids to Chris Karns too.

Whoa, that fly guy kid changed his name too. To Cry Guy! 0_o

he should give up djing and go work at McDonald's and change his name to Fry Guy!

lol

a show with one (lightweight) legend ..capri....had cred? ...really... 2 dudes I never heard of guest judge? ' inCREDible..smh

Well that was a short comeback from Tina...
Maybe she should've chosen Loczi as an opponent?
And that wasn't a "beatjuggle" per se, just a basic doubling with a bodytrick and an attempt at scratch drumming. Not saying that Fly Guy did much better, but hey, look how it turned out... The word "turntablist" gets pinned on way too often, like "I can scratch and double up records, I must be a turntablist". No, those are some of the basic skills of a Hip-Hop DJ.

It was kinda funny that three DJs on the episode did the "I'm Different -> Shimmy Shimmy Ya"-tone play, but Incrediboi's face was priceless as Dynamix did it again (like he, Incrediboi, was the original inventor of that. C'mon son...)

Overall, the most entertaining/skilled sets were Dynamix and Chris Karns-sets. Thought out, well planned and executed.

I think that CK just got tired of using "Vajra" as a DJ-name?
It doesn't rool off your tongue, and Big Once dissed him for that name in Red Bull Threestyle 2011, which Big Once also won. So maybe it was time for a change? Awfully convenient?
Maybe, but sometimes these things happen.

I can't believe dude cried like that. Wow.

For real. Lol @ Cry Guy. That name might stick.

But there is always crying on "reality" tv....

Oh wait, FORREAL?

Gotta see the episode...

I thought they brought Dj Dimepiece back they way he was cryin so hard.. lol.. He tried tho, he knew he was out matched but he didnt give up..

Then again, losing a shot at 250,000 IS something to definitely bring a tear to the eye...

True indeed. That's the realest part of the show...the fact that these people have a shot @ $250K.

Well, it's a 250,000 job/contract with Smirnoff isn't it?

Not that it makes it NOT 250k.
But I'd like to see the breakdown on how that year works, as well as taxes and such.

They pay them in $250,000 worth of Smirnoff Products/Vodka...

Good point. They probably make you work 9 gigs a week for the whole year, staying at low budget motels and flying coach 5 times a week (when you're not on a bus). I bet the after-tax breakdown per hour worked isn't as appealing.

Although it's a great way to promote yourself and book some beter gigs moving forward.

Another person complaining about the mixer. The Sixty-Two is not a hard mixer to master. If you think your a master of the mix and can't use a Rane...GTFO.

Fly guy was just way out of his league. Makes me wonder how he even got this far. Not even on the same level. The challenge with Tina T was to beat juggle and scratch. Fly Guy didn't do any of that. He talked about not being in the game as long...from what I've seen, he still has a long way to go to catch up to his competitors any only have a few years under his belt. I've listened to the full sets and his was just horrible. www.thefuture.fm

Loczi better step it up.

Still not impressed with Incrediboi.

Id take that deal

I really thought Tina won that mini battle
When Ben laid out what he was looking for she obviously listened
He said juggle, she juggled
He said cut she cut
He said remix she did trix

Then flyguy wins for playing all the songs on the list?
youtu.be

It's hard to spend any time second guessing decisions though. Knowing they are all being tinkered by a producer/editor

But if anyone on any of the challenges just decided to play all the tracks on the song list, than do the task required...they'd be gone.

But like I said it's hard to waste any breath when u know that it's mostly decided before anything happens.

Damn auto correct *
He said trix she did trix

So...

I'll address the elephant in the room.

Tina T...smashable?

For sure

I would hit that harder than Hurricane Katrina hit NOLA. And leave as wet and dirty too. LOL

LOL

"And the show has reached a new low"

tina t? you boys are thurrrrrrrrrrrrsty

The most skilled DJ's that are left are Chris Karns and Dynamix.

Jayceeoh has been dope for decade
youtu.be

I wouldn't count him out either

^^^ Yeah... that scratch pattern Jayceeoh was doing was ill. I gotta learn that one.

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I would say that was Tina's opportunity to flex her turntablist skills. Haven't really seen much until now, so they just wrote her in to fill some time.

The Sixty-Two is by far the easiest mixer with Efx to use. Hell I think the 57 is harder to use than the Sixty-Two and it cracks me up when DJs who use the 57 say the Sixty-Two is hard. I feel every DJ knew they was coming to this show and battle. So much was at stake publicity, money, and more I would had went and brought a Sixty-Two and learned it prior to me coming to this show.

I dunno, I thought the Behringer DJX-700 was pretty easy! :)

Never heard about Behringer..please explain. Similar to Gemini??

How is a mixer hard to use?

www.killthehydra.com

so fly guy did cry I just watched the episode wtf was he crying for he is obviously not on the level of Jayceeoh, Chris, and Dynamix.

I was really pulling for incrediboi but I dont see him beating Chris or Dynamix so he going out after locczi.

I think incrediboi gunna come thru with a great set and make it to the final 2 at least 3, i can see him beating dynamix. Im callin final 3 incrediboi, chris and jayceeoh. I can see chris or jayceeoh having a bad set in the near future that mite put them on the chopping block eventho they are the strongest 2..

Plus Capri has a man crush on the Boi!
Lol

Am I the only one who it seemed obvious to that playing only one song in that juggle/scratch battle was going to make Tina lose? I absolutely agree that she did more "juggling" and scratching than fly guy, but the second she was done with her set, I knew she lost.

All she had to do was cut in one or two of the other songs...not mix them in, but just scratch one of them in and then do her same little double routine on the next record.

Obviously in the heat of the moment it's tough, but I was sure the second her 90 seconds was up and she was still on record number 1 that she lost without even hearing what flyguy was gonna do.

I just can't see Indrediboi beating Dynamix.

Dynamix is just more well rounded and creative. Indrediboi seems to be just a Hop Hop Dj. Dynamix can throw down. See his Thre3style sets or any of his other videos on Youtube.

TEAM DYNAMIX!!! lets goooOoOo! and yea Kid kapri stays giving that SERIOUS NECK to BOI ...... Mofo gon need a NECK BRACE soon lol

I agreed with this 110%.

yes you should see all the OG DJs in NYC love in incrediboi but dude is dope so Im not hating on him. I think Im close to him skill and song knowledge wise, he is better than me when it comes to cutting with both hands but as far as crowd rocking goes I think I may be a bit better anyways. My hats off to him I wish him the best

He is not beating Dynamix the guy is just plain out better than incrediboi no diss on the boi but if hes better hes better

Just watched the last FlyGuy set. Obvious respect is due cause dude got himself on TV and made it through the first few rounds and whatnot. But if I played a set like that alone in my basement I'd cry all by myself. Epic fail. Dude should have played it safe. How many times have they pointed out how important rocking the crowd is? A safer less creative set may have still sent him home, but with at least a little dignity.

And furthermore, I noticed a few of them tried cueing through Rob Base It Takes 2. That is an EXCELLENT song for juggling and whatnot. Nobody did anything exciting with it. I don't get it. It's BASIC. 0_o

SMH FLyguy is a fucking pussy, how do you cry like a bitch? but respect for admitting that he is just not on the other djs level. still no need to cry over spill milk that just ruin his IMAGE. he should be better anyways even though he has only been doing it for a few years. seriosuly you can be a decent dj in a year or in a few months if you really put in some time. if you are doing basic basic shit after 1 year of djing your either slow or just plain and simple you SUCK

Man, I TOLD Y'ALL from THE DOOR, Chris Kearns is DA MAN..


LMAO @ 'Cry Guy" gettin' "Goodbye" pounds while he was bawlin....

Not for nothin' that chicks LEGS were lookin' kinda hot in that mini skirt she was rockin' early in the show...

1 whole year? more like 2 weeks. in two weeks you should be at least close to being dj craze.

Check out this Amanda Seales interview
Watchwww.youtube.com

She sounds like she knows her shit.

Dynamix is scratched? BULLSHIT!!!

That is bullshit Loczi should have been next

Same hairdresser... ;)

Ooops, misquote.
Same hairdresser....

Dynamix had the weakest set last night. Loczi actually had a good set.

Dynamix knew he was done after his mix. He had that dam I fucked up look on his face. He's dope though. I was pulling for him to go up against Chris K.
1. Chris Karnes
2. Jayceeoh
3. Encrediboi

Jayceeoh is a little more rounded DJ than Incrediboi but that's going to be the battle to watch.

It's done. Chris Karns has it in the bag.

Sad to see Dynamix go. He had a weak set, but he is a better all around dj than Incrediboi and Loczi.

If Incrediboi wins it, I give up on this show. No offense to Incrediboi, but look at the connection with the winners from season 1 and 2 and possibly 3. Hmm...

Cmon B. Its a competition, if you have a weak set you go home, dont matter how good you are overall, how good were you today at this task. You dont perform well you get "scratched". You thinks the knicks shoulda just went to the conference finals just cause they are a better team than the pacers? Dont work like that B.

J C O

Hey B (In Camron paid in full voice) Dynamix had a weak set B but thats still my dude B. Incrediboi got skills B yall need to recognize. I dont see Karns slipping up at all B he is DMC champ he can perform under pressure.

I look at it like this everyone is America is well aware of race and how it plays into our everydays lives. So dont be surprised if Incrediboi has a slight advantage becauase he is latino, and I believe they want to show that anybody can win regardless of race. I mean thats how I see it. I could be wrong

Let's see the Pacers stomp Miami!

Is that what you think this SHOW is...do you you believe that my being stronger or faster has anything to do with my muscles in this place? Do you think thats air your breathing now? Humph

Yeah it's TV. Karns would run circles around incrediboi on the decks. Anyone who thinks different doesn't know a damn thing about dj-ing or is just a...

Mic yelling, shout out to every bario every minute, non mixing, drop only, gunshot/horn transition dj...

Dangit, I haven't seen the episode. I kinda wish I hadn't read this thread. :(

I think Jayceeoh is severely over rated... he doesn't suck but his style just so plain. Nothing about what he does stands out to me. I feel the same way about Loczi too.

Does anyone get on futurefm and listen to the whole set. It might change your mind a little. To hear the mix from beginning to end without the TV cuts. This last four is pretty close. I mean Chris Karns def in front but after that shit. Any bodies game.




www.thefuture.fm

Did VH1 remove the full episodes from the website?

IMO

So far everyone that got scratched needed to be scratched and that's real talk. I just wish people would quit saying because one guy scratches better,, that he will win. Whoever completes the challenges the best is who will win. I hated to see Dynamix go because I do feel he is better than at least two of the dj's left but he failed on the challenge. Scratching alone does not make you a DJ, there are many dynamics to rocking a crowd,,,, oh and winning a challenge.

Currently C. Karns has it going on with CREATIVITY and the ability to keep the crowd moving and his scratching is an added bonus,,,, remember he is a DMC Champ so should you expect less. The other Dj might not be nearly as good scratching but honestly do they need to be?

Last night Loczi won for the simple fact that he reproduces his music!!!!!, that is what he is good at, just as C. Karns is at scratching. Yet my thoughts on that was that the remixes he did were good but all appeared to be at or close to the same bpm, so he had an easier time doing this challenge. From what I saw C. Karns won, but hey I am looking at it from the dj world not the production works....I think they put the wack judges in to make it fair so that a DMC DJ would not automatically win. If the Judges were DJQbert, Jazzy Jeff and Kid well you know who would win right off the top....

So end the end complete the task or it's your ass.

I thought this was a show about DJing and vodka, not producing. I stand corrected.

Kid Capri mentioned that about Loczi's set. I believe that qoute of the night, in my opinion, as voiced by Mia Morretti and the other judge (ben??). "In todays world DJ and Producing go hand and hand." I happen to agree with that. Just evolution of the game.

Not that it is about producing, but he used a resource he has to complete the challenge which is producing. He had a pretty good set, it may not have been that creative on the dj side of things but he completed the task, he did dj every last song, just so happened that he reworked em to fit the way he wanted them. Not to mention he wasnt the only one that got praised for self production in his set. And the next task is about producing, Loczi may have the upper hand once again.

So warping all the tracks to the same bpm and putting similar beats behind them all is now what we are considering djing? I see.

Hey a remix is a remix.. As long as he touched those turntables and played those records they asked him too.. Weather he scratched or not, he completed the task and had a decent set.

Doesn't really matter as barring a major fuckup, loczi is next.

Perhaps but like Nessnice mentioned, the next set is about production and that's right up Loczi's alley so he either comes with it (production) or he gets scraaaaatchhhed

Just ask Puffy Daddy...made millions doing just that

Anyone else constantly want to slap the shit out of the Ben dude and Mia Moretti every single episode?

That dude just needs a beating, dunno why lol.

I hear you...

i think mia moretti is chloe sevignys dorky little sister.

I think Mia Moretti is drunk on set if she's not drunk then she is dingy... As for Ben I like what he brings to the table (the production side). It is true production goes hand and hand with being a DJ. I Lot of great DJ's during of our time became big due to remixes, FYI doing remixes is simple production!! If you ever mixed an acapella with an instrumental your ass was in production on some scale. We all do something to distinguish ourselves from other DJ's that is production. I will give an example one of my favorite DJ's of all time.....

DJ Rectangle went on to become a Grammy Award nominated producer. He has produced records that have sold over 2 million copies, including releases by Eminem, Dirt Nasty, Funkdoobiest, The Luniz, The Whoridas, Mala Rodríguez, and Xzibit. Additionally, he has produced tracks used on television shows such as E! True Hollywood Story, Saturday Night Live, and Super Bowl XLIII as well major motion pictures including 1996's Set It Off starring Jada Pinkett and Queen Latifah, 1997's Fakin' da Funk starring Pam Grier and Dante Basco, The Big Hit starring Mark Wahlberg, and 2005's Get Rich or Die Tryin' starring 50 Cent.

I am talking about a DMC Champ (DJ RECTANGLE) the True Meaning of Masters of the Mix. So if you think Production is not a part think twice. I still say Loczi was less creative from the DJ stand point as BMPs did not present a challenge for him as a producer but as a DJ he would have been scratch trying it the way Dynamix did, he would have done much worst. How do I know that you may ask well because he didn't make an attempt too.... : ) Can't be mad we all play to our strengths and we all should be commend on doing so. Hat's of to Loczi for doing what he does best.

Either that or Madonna's baby sister.

I'd still hit Mia Moretti in the pink and in the stink. hahahahaha I'm Asian, we're just horny bastards!!

Uh, all us men are that way...

i thought she looked like she was on a strong dosage anti depressents, until the last one, then she finally didnt dance around to every single song and mix

FWIW, Loczi has always been a DJ before a producer. I met him in '98 when he was spinning RECORDS at our college. He started producing a few years ago and he got really good at it.

On the technical aspect of djn, he's definitely not on the level of a dynamix or vajra. But if you look at all the elements that make up a great DJ, he does pretty well in all of them.

There's a reason why the dood has residencies in vegas, syndicated radio shows, and the luxury of always getting the exit row on southwest flights lol.

i thought loczi was wack because of his taste early on(dubstep in 2013?), but his last set he really did nice work.

So Dubstep Is Officially Dead Now?

its mainly for the 12-21 market, but basically, the bro (ala skrilex/rusko sounding stuff) side is dead, most producers saw the writing on the wall. it was kinda like and ed hardy thing.

but, there are real dubstep/producers labels still doing it. kinda like current hip hop and 90s hip hop.

Coulda fooled me

Trap has taken over dubstep for the most part. But it think its a regional thing. I know here in Dallas, its all about Trap as of late. I am sure that will start to fizzle out here shortly.

Ya trap is def the flavor of the month here to bit dubsteps far from dissapeared

How come your not mixing trap and dubstep in the same sets? Moderation is the key thats why people are getting burnt out on music so fast.

Who?

I go more trap to hip-hop. Some venues I DJ at frown upon hip hop. I get away with it by doing Trap and Trap remixes of Hip Hop songs. Honestly though, I never got much into dubstep. I was really happy to see it fade out.

just a question for the general, not directed shoulda been more specific. I play a little dubstep in my sets but it has to have the reggae undertone to it. Thos Atrak remixes in that bpm range are just nasty

I'm mad that they are actually pushing the whole DJ / Producer thing...

I mean, c'mon son, they were pressing buttons to recreate ODB's Raw....

You don't need Turntables for that....

I understand that's where the industry is headed, but I don't like it...

There's more to producing than just pushin buttons and the industry is not headed that way it has been that way. If were all about turntables the show would be named MASTERS OF THE TURNTABLES..... Or DMC :) I would like very much for DMC to be on National TV to really put the craft out and I believe it would be a hit with high ratings. But with all the copyright laws and crap it will never see a day on tv unless it becomes a sport in the Olympics.

its just embarrassing now, unless you are in a rural area or playing to 18 yr olds that have no clue about music or djing.

thats the thing is people are taking djing where it doesnt need to go. playing key shit is not impressing the crowd its impressing djs.

and if it wasnt master of the dmc, why are all the turntable heavy guys winning and getting saluted on doing turtablist routines? its like dmc lite for tv basically. we all know that no one gets paid for playing for 5-15 mins at a time.

Sorry but my Boy Incrediboi has this in the bag!!

I can see that happening since it's clear Capri has a Bias towards NY dj's. But skill-wise Chirs Karns owns Incrdiboi and Dynamix will own Incrediboi on creativity. Incrediboi will own both on the mic since he has that NY type of style (link below) that I don't really care for nor consider it as skill.

Watchwww.youtube.com

Only if it's judged in a bias way. Seriously, Chris is another level in every single aspect of DJing. We all know that.

agreed, however do not be surprised if incrediboi wins. Dude has a alot of talent Ive scene him live so I know what he can and cannot do. We all know Karns really shouldnt even be allowed to compete he is probably the best DJ in the world imo

Part of me says Karns has an unfair advantage but the other part says pure Turntablists generally suck at mixing or rocking a dance crowd, party-wise... there are exceptions. As long as they don't turn the MotM into a show based on DJ battling, it'll remain fair. I also don't care for the pre-production aspects being thrown in as that seems unfair. This isn't Master of the Production.

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The way Capri is on Incrediboi's nuts... they need to call it Master of the Bation...smh

He seems to do alright with crowds.

Watchwww.youtube.com

I said it long ago.

I remember seeing this DJ Varja / Chris Kearns vids YEARS ago, --> Watchwww.youtube.com

and thinking, that dude is the best DJ in the world right now...

He

Using a straight Technics mixer, and no crabs...

The DJ world OWES it to him to put him on, cuz he's done CRAZY work...

Plus the fact that he has/suffers from arthritis is an accomplishment in itself.

Yep, that's the video I first saw of him... past dope. He and DJ Precision have been my favorites for a while now.

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He played the drums on the turntable....dope.

yup, both were in my top 3 most deserving to win DMC up until 2010... now it's just Precision. Hope he comes big this year, I'm not gonna make it easy on him tho :D

See I called it...

This week was actually a good episode. The production round was Loczi's round to win. Not to say that his production sucked, but he forgot to Dj even a little bit.

I think he got hosed. Based on what I heard, his production was the cleanest sounding. Incrediboi's sounded very basic. It shoulda been Incrediboi that was scratched.

I was really surprised that Chris, not having a production background, had one that really sounded good and well thought out.

Really production wise out of the 4, I was shooting for Incrediboi to go home. I was really surprised that Loczi went home. It was a production challenge. He did the challenge well. He put on a show, he engaged the crowd, that too is DJ'ing. You don't have to touch the turntables to hype the crowd. Like DJ Home said in the beginning. Its not Master of the Turntables.....

Nothing will suck more than being called the producer that could not produce even though he produced the cleanest of the remixes, that's what people will say he did not produce. This further confirms that the winner will be well rounded and does not have to be the best in one area. Turning knobs does not make a DJ, the I Pad Guy got booted for just playing with filters why should it be any different for Loczi. Add to that Estelle did not like the EDM version I think she carried a lot a weight in this decision as well.

There is that.

Also, it's a TV show.

Loczi remix was good but he is the weakest all around he lacks table skills.

@ DisGrace

Lol, maybe so but do you think the best 3 Dj's are left or do you think otherwise? For those on Kid for his man crush on Incrediboi this might be true but there are two other Judges that could kill that noise. Kids face when old boy was saying he didn't like his production was priceless.

There are two other judges other than Capri, but I cannot count them as credible "judges". Ok, so Mia is a DJ, but c'mon. Really? Mr. producer? Yeah, ok. I'd rather hear from Amanda Seales who actually has time on the decks. If Incrediboi beats CK, it's fixed. There is just no way Incrediboi is better than CK or Dynamix for that matter.

BTW, was there beef with CK and Dynamix? I just can't remember seeing them socializing in the show. I could be wrong.

IMO i think Jayceeoh should have been sent home. He remixed and looped a small part of the song over and over. It was still good though...
All of the other guys remixed a lot more of the song.
I dont think he really completed the challenge.
Unless it was just the editing on the show that made it seem like that

I'd say there is someone chosen to be the winner from day one, and the other people are brought on for controversy (iPad guy), drama (Dimepiece), romance (Tina and that dude), and all the other things that make a tv show what it is: entertainment.

Fortunately, the djs that are left are all talented, which makes the last few episodes promising when it comes to creativity and the quality of sets we will be seeing. Hopefully the fewer number of competing djs will mean we get to see near-full sets in the last couple episodes, as well.

Loczi and that iPad guy are EDM DJ's. I have always said, since after Season 1 ended, an EDM DJ will never win this contest. As much as they publicize this as an overall DJ competition, it is still skewed towards turntablism. Todays DJ'ing has gone beyond that. I am somewhat content that they included the production and remixing aspect of DJ'ing, however, they still managed to skew it towards turntablism.

Yes Turntablism is the root of DJ'ing, but allow DJ's to show what else they can do away from Turntablism. Otherwise call it for what it is, Master of the Turntables

If i had disposable hollywood income & ethics Id be all over an EDM counterpart for this show.
everyone would be gorgeous.
they'd always be on drugs.
and the winner would be a EDC headliner and get a contract with an energy drink.

we'd all hate it to its core.
but it would be 100x more commercially successful.

lol

I would definitely sign up for that show...

The giving away of semi-goofy controllers to DJ's who actually have skillz and therefore no use for them inspire me to believe that I could also sample Alice DJ, rip off Wiz, and go BIG on a $50 BS controller!

Hahahahahahahaha

C'mon man, that was a $450 controller. LOL

I was wondering who idea it was to give away that controller like why?!!!

On The Voice they give away those T-pain microphones don't they?

Oh, wait...

Numark sponsored that episode.

(Heavy sigh)... I guess I should say that I don't care if they give chicken costumes away if it adds sponsors and keeps the show on the air : /

No you C'mon that controller was chezzy.......yet free is free I like free,,,, I would have took those QSC's though would have made good monitors.

Yep those QSC would've been pretty sweet to get for FREE!


You guys remember last season, they made em carry crates of record up a hill. Wonder if they will do that again this year. That was funny.

Agree and the only way to be "fairly" judged is NOT to have a judge like Kid on the panel. The best representation would be to have one of each as judges and bring the prior winners of the show in as guess judges.

Turntablist have their own showpiece, the DMC competition.

WTF does that have to do with DJing and being MOTM...what dumbass thought that was a good idea...

....wow

Yeah what does carrying crates of records have to do with DJing.......wait a minute!

smh...

If ever had to carry them u tend to hate them milkcrate that is... I dont miss that at all.

Sees child molester in thread.... leaves thread.

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Oh my......

LMAO - that dude tried to come in here like he was interested in some other thread today

I didn't like that Loczi got eliminated either. But I understand why. If you are asked to perform as a DJ don't fake it. He could have done anything he just decided to do nothing. He had the best remix as a producer. But the worst DJ performance. He could have easily used the mixer to play a beat he created live. Fatal Flaw

OK, my bad, this didn't come out right. I carried crates of records back in the day. I didn't see last season so I spoke out of line, they could have been using only vinyl (no software).

as much as dont value Mia's seat on the show she has called out a few real things...

<~~ All i gotta say! *Drops mic*

youtu.be

Okay, he's much better than I thought he was.

Sure is...

BUT MELL STARR PLAYED GOOD TIMES!!! ****at the end...***

Out of Incrediboi and Mellstarr... I'd give the nod to Mel on overall TT skills and flavor. My only knock on Melstarr is his gimmick of no headphones. That doesn't impress me... put them headphones on to insure I don't hear a slamfest all night long and insure I'll hear a clean mix/blend when you do put one down.


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I can't front, I thought Incrediboi had it at the 52 second mark, then Mell showed more agility overall, so a slight nod does go to Mel, however they BOTH didn't have on headphones.

I can now see why Kid is all over Incrediboi, cuz he's reppin' NY HEAVY, and has the basic fundamental skills to back it up.

However Chris Kearns is a next level beast......

The realest shit u ever wrote.. (2Pac Voice)

I've seen Mellstarr go in FULL BEAST MODE on the TT's on DJ Scratch's Scratchvision web show... I don't see Incrediboi quite on that level yet... he's definitely good though. To me, it seems like Mell was playing slightly down to his level on that Youtube vid. No knock on either from the vid.

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I didn't think Mel was a nice as he actually is, this is the best that I've seen him at...

And THANK GAWD that NY is finally upping their DJ game again, (I thought Mel was a fluke, but was mistaken), cuz that whole "Yell ont the mic, slam the next song" routine is getting tiresome for those interested in seeing a true skill set.

DJ Scratch is nice and all, but Mel is next level.

Incrediboi is great, but again, Chris Kearns is the Future.

Watchwww.youtube.com

lol@ you guys counting Jayceeoh out. Hes the only one who hasn't been on the chopping block. Karns almost went home that first two weeks. If loczi would have touched the turntable 1 time, incrediboy would have been sent home this week.

He's also from a business perspective the most marketable. Incrediboy looks like shrek, and karns seems very uptight and bitchy.

Wotch.

lol@ you guys counting Jayceeoh out. Hes the only one who hasn't been on the chopping block. Karns almost went home that first two weeks. If loczi would have touched the turntable 1 time, incrediboy would have been sent home this week.

He's also from a business perspective the most marketable. Incrediboy looks like shrek, and karns seems very uptight and bitchy.

Wotch.

holy post fuckup.

lol @ shrek

LMAO. Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that...

LoL... that's messed up ya'll.

I was thinking the same about NY DJ's until I stumbled up on the Beatminerz Radio on Ustream a few years back. They use to have Mellstarr spinning live, regularly and the one-up on him... DJ Boogie Blind. Boogie Blind leaves even Mell behind. Yeah, NY's always had the likes of Roc Raida but I'm talking party-rock DJ's. These guys buried that NY slam-talk-n-drop technic...

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NYC has always had great DJs they are just not the ones getting the mainstream shine. I remember Incrediboi before he was that nice, and he's been nice for a long time. Back in 2005 was when I first heard him and I remember a few of the old heads was like this dude is gonna be nasty in a few years.

Nobody is counting Jayceeoh out, but I would take CK & Incrediboi over him. That's just my take on it. As far as marketability, DJ P wasn't the best candidate to be marketed last year from MOTM, but yet he still won. I can give a damn how any of these cats look, what matters is the skill set.

If you look waaay up at the top of this thread i chose jayceeoh and i havent changed my pic



I....KNOW....THINGS ;)

You also arent in charge of marketing at smirniff...you know, the guys running this show to hire a new spokesperson ;)

Never said I was and I also that DJ P wasn't the most marketable person last year, but still won the competition. If you going to pick apart what I say pick apart everything.

IMHO -- Loczi got shafted. By far the best REMIX, which was the name of the challenge, they snagged him up on not touching the turntables, as an afterthought. Well that remix didn't need much more added to it {even the dick Capri} said it was a TSUNAMI - why the fuck would you scratch atop that???, it flat out it was the best "REMIX" that successfully GOT THE CROWD GOING!! Even the judges noted that, but then started to shit on him after ESTELLE opened her trap on a Dubstep remix which even though highly complemented her vocals, (unlike the other 3). But clearly, EDM isn't her cup of Tea. Funny, she looked like she was diggin her tune when the lights and energy of the crowd were going apeshit.

Incrediboi [Shrek] would have been the one to let go, had it not been Loczi. That being said, I doubt he will win.

It's going to be a head up battle between KC & J C O.

The challenge was to create a remix AND perform it on the turntables. He created it, but didn't perform with it so technically he didn't complete the challenge. Had he performed he would've won the challenge hands down. I didn't really like Jayceeoh's remix.

"Master of the mix is not about being a dj, its about being an artist" 2:22

"today you are not just dj's behind turntable's, you are producers" 2:42

-- followed by, "you're have to perform your mix live." <<-- that means you have to scratch on it???

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Seems the emphasis was on REMIX.

They do contradict themselves within minutes on this show.

JESUS H. CHRIST!!!!

I've been waiting for them to post this episode for 2 days...

Haven't seen it yet, but will check it out in a few....

This was probably the most interesting episode because we get to see their whole set. No sloppy editing.

There was still mad editing, half the time the people bouncing on screen doesn't match the audio.

easier to shape the outcome

There was people / crowd shots from other episodes too

I said to myself, I already clowned that dude for that dance weeks ago!

True, but the audio was consistent.

Mel has more flavor than incrediboi both are really talented djs.

Chris Karns is on another level... To be honest I already knew how good he was back in the early to mid 90s by watching him get better every year at the dmc But to see him him become an all around dj like this is something else. he is one of the best djs ( all around ) in the world . Jayceeo is sick also. The next challenge can have one mess up from Karns and he might loose. Which he is still the most talented.

The question is Chris Karns on Dj P level or Dj Ztrip Level ?

i think this is more someone's to lose, than someone's to win
like Loczi he had that challenge in his hand, and by a misinterpretation of the rules for the round he lost.

the last few rounds they have reverted to figuring out out who had the bigger faults, who messed up becuase they only had to pick a loser.
now, they have to pick a winner...
and i hope they all execute perfectly so the judges have some actual judging to do, not just cut loose the weakest link

Technically I think he is better than both Trip and P. As an all round party rocking DJ he is on the same level in my eyes.

Man, just saw Loczi get eliminated...

He didn't complete the challenge....Period.

They were EXPLICIT with bring it "To Life" during the performance, aka use the turntable...

He would have still been there if he AT LEAST touched the Turntable, as the only thing left to judge would have been the crowd reaction, and the quality of the REMIX.

And he KILLED it in both of those areas.

But let me tell you....

CHRIS KEARNS MURDERLIZED that remix....

Marvin Gaye?

And the way it was laced?

He is the BEST DJ in the world right now....

To me, Chris is WAYYYYYYYY better technician than EITHER of those guys...

Like atronomically disproportionate...

Party rock and Rock Star status?

I don't know, at least compared to Z-Trip, because what the CROWD likes is NOT necessarily what WE consider "Next Level" DJ'ing....

As for being a nice "Promotional Piece" for Smirnoff, Yeah, CK was an absolute Azz in the beginning of the show, but hopefully this (hopeful) win will humble him some....

I'm starting to get the whole idea of having those other 2 judges besides Kid Capri there, as this ISN'T a DMC...

And yep, Mia has said some REAL questionable *ish during the shows, (liking how chick DJ's were dressed, etc), but she KEPT IT 100 on this episode....

Eh

questionable???... she's an utter disgrace.

when Tina T & Brian Dawe got cut....there was no way in hell Tina T should've had a chance to come back and battle over Brian... Brian was a wayyyyyyy better DJ. But because she had tits and a pussy... Dilusional Mia had her brought back... and we all know if it was Brian coming back to battle Fly Guy (aka cry guy) lol... Brian woulda whooped dat azz.

true, true...

DJ CryGuy...LMAO

NO DOUBT. I was actually upset that they didn't let Dawes battle bitchboy...

Yeah man, I agree with you (same sentiments in my previous comments)

And with regards to performing. Loczi did PERFORM in all sense of the word. He got the crowd hyped via mic work and bouncing round getting the crowd going. However, I guess there is a misnomer in the show title. It's Master of the Mix with a caveat: turntablist only need apply.

I agree on the turntablist comment. They have all but said you have to scratch everything, regardless. That's stupid but it fits with the club kids of today.

I give props to these guys doing stuff I can't do, but then again, I don't want to do that stuff. I have no interest in try to scratch over everything.

It's a TV show. To choose a vodka company's dj for upcoming promotional events. They want someone that can throw down on the turntables. Period.

You can catch both my peoples... Mell Starr is back on Ustream at TheCutCafe channel and also now on BReal.tv Monday-Friday 10am EST-12pm EST followed by Eddie B Swift 12pm EST-2pm EST

Is it sad that I'm more bothered by Estelle losing her London accent?

I can appreciate dubstep is not "her sound" its "not Estelle" as i think she put it....

but then again:
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Its a shame. I don't even like dubstep, but he completely made his own sound to her track. by far the better remix, but different....
soundcloud.com

his stuff was label worthy...the other stuff was remix site worthy
but as we seem to agree, it was a fatal mistake not doing "something"

like Jayceeoh put breaks in his edit just so he can get flashy at on a few bars
that would have been the move

Yeah. I remember her like this lol: Watchwww.youtube.com

Damn - that track is heavy blud. Or something equally street talk.

hahaha...That was from Skitz Homegrown album. Had some gems on that LP

Posted and name checked on my facebook page.

What was the name of the firsr guy eliminated

in all honesty... i think every last one of those remixes to her song was wayyyyyyyy better than the original track

^^^^^^^
TRUE

In the episode;
- Loczi had a very professional-sounding remix, and Estelle's "anti-Dubstep"-comment was kinda vague "...not my cup of tea...", well yeah Dubstep IS fading out, BUT she did at least one Dubstep-track with Kid Sister & Rusko:
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BUT I gotta say, the drops in his track were kinda just a bit too much of Transformers-Skrillexy-tear out-thing. For the mood of that original record.

- Jayceeoh's remix had his definite fingerprints on it. It sounded like a lot of his other remix-works and edits. I could have wanted more vocals than the loop, but he kept his scratches and turntable work subtle. Kinda liked the Trap/Dubstep-fusion, which didn't go overboard.

- Chris Karns' remix was also very subtle and let the original track breathe. Dope that he had the double-time breaks, and played the drums with cue points AND did the scratching with varied scratches, not just fast Chirps. Really aced it. And if none of you knew, he said that he tried to learned producing between 2004 and 2011 DMCs.

- Incrediboi's remix had a nice feel to it, but the hi-hats were a bit too loud, and it wasn't really a super-inventive track. I gotta give it to him, like Yonny, dude's Chirps are fast and clean, both on-beat and with triplets.

IF Loczi had more subtle drops in his remix, and he had touched the turntables more, he could've won over Incrediboi.

If nothing drastic happens, I DOUBT that Incrediboi wins. Dude is NICE on the tables, but if you look at the Mell Starr Vs. Incrediboi-video, Mell takes Incrediboi to school. Sorry, to Kindergarten on that one. The way he slows the record down without missing a beat and still keeps transforming = "I can't believe it's not butter". There's a certain NYC-flavor in his mixes (i.e. dropping tracks with scratches, but little blending and alsi getting on the mic).

The final is between CK and Jayceeoh, and if CK brings his Maschine stuff, in addition to his vast arsenal = game over.

Chris Kearns isn't even human right now, in terms of DJ'ing.

Turntablism breeds creativity and typically the better the Turntablist the more creative the set. It is truly amazing to see what guys/girls can do on a turntables with so little resources. The best Dj's are left and then there will be one. I actually liked this season even with the judges they picked. To me CK has the edge but it's still open due to the next challenge , and as we saw on the last episode you better complete the task and touch the turntables or it's your ass..

Im sorry if your not on Turntables to me its not DJing...I know others have many arguments to disagree but turntables are were its at. Even rocking CDJs are still a bit cheesy to me.

Turntablism is where its at as far as DJing goes. If they wanted a button pusher or a house DJ chances are they would have CDJs and controllers and not turntables. They want someone who is going to perform (literally) they do not want someone who will just stand behind the decks twisting knobs. I think they want someone who is an extremley well rounded DJ as far music, production, and turntable skills.

Im sorry watching a show with guys using a CDJ or controller would look very amature. REAL DJ's know how to use turntables. Everything else to me is kinda corny but thats just my opinion

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I agree Chris Karns is on another level and would say him and Craze are the 2 best in the game right now.

Ztrip and Dj P are creative as far as mixing and the music they play. Which is one thing but technically Chris Karns is on another level of djing and has shown he can rock any style just as Ztrip and Dj P.

If Chris Karns looses it's because of mistakes ( can happen to anyone ). Jayceeo is a better all around dj then increbiboi they all 3 are dope Djs.

Im pulling for Chris Karns because as a Dj I know he is more talented and a better dj all around. I would pay to see Karns I honestly wouldnt pay to go see the other two. Just my opinion.

True statement. I would also add that transitioning from turntables to CDJs is easier than transitioning from CDJs to turntables...



Not going to lie, I felt the exact same way until I put my hands on a pair of Denon SC3900s, since then my perspective has changed. Those decks are the closes thing to a true turntable out there...still love my 1200's but I rock my 3900s just as much as I do my 1200s, just my opinion.

You right though on a show with controllers, would be like watching "DJ" iPod for an hour...blaaaahhhh

Damn!!!!! I am no longer a DJ because I use a Controller.

Don't be sorry for how you feel. Yet you do know there are some DJ's that think if you use Serato your not a DJ or if you never carried long milk crates full of records you are not a dj, there is a long list of things as such. I myself would not go as far as to say if your not on Turntables your not a DJ but I will say is if you can't beat match without a wave visual, can't entertain a crowd or keep a party going or just by listening to a song know the bpm's plus12 to15 songs that it would go with right off the top of you head then your not a DJ!!!! Simply put!!!,,,,place a crate of records in front of me without serato and watch the magic(no hard core scratching ;) ..... You wave matching beat syncing mf's would be dead in the water if placed in that environment those are the none DJ's.

Maybe I should say owning Turntables does not make a DJ!!!!!

I guess at the end of the day..... you have;

DMC competition for all out battle turntablism

Master of the mix for all around dj/production/turntablism

and DJ Magazine [corrupt as fuck] voting for EDM dj's : www.djmag.com

problem solved.

I dont think i could stomach a controller competition, or a see how much shit i can connect to traktor, or albeton sets.. [yuck] Barely an exception to the rule: Dj Enferno, and as a dj I think that is some really cool on-th-fly remixing skills. But you know it well rehearsed and not really OFF-THE-CUFF, which is what I truly think makes a dj stand out. All in all, Enferno in most of this club videos doing the remixes, he looses the crowd just as fast as Q-bert does after 10 min of scratching.

average joe People just don't get it...

lookin at that list just made my stomach hurt.

can you say.... popularity contest ??

found a vid of Ms. Mia twistin knobs to save her life...hehe

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talk about The Waveform Gaze

High-end party... people STILL put drinks down on the dj table

I never got the whole "I'm gonna dj with a sax player, violinist, kazooist, etc...". Seems quite unnecessary

I did a night, and suprise I had one supplied to me.
she was hot as lava rocks, very very good, immensely talented beyond anything Ive seen, and people loved her.

I hated every minute of it.

(geez, if that doesnt sound like the DJ answer)

it's def different...and im all for doin shit outside of the box... i actually liked the idea, just cant stand the fake dramatics of knob twistin...lol

They make it seem like the DJ is doing something intricate. The instrumentalist is the one doing all the hard work. They have to create music with an instrument vs the DJ just playing pre-recorded music. The instrumentalist should get props for that act, not the DJ.

Now I have seen some set where a DJ is playing with a drummer and the DJ is mostly cutting and scratching. In that kind of situation I would say the DJ is doing something special.
But just playing songs and messing with effects while a violinist is playing is not that hard to do.

I'm not sorry, I have vinyl I have crates and I have done all vinyl sets. To add I started in the CDJ era and made the choice of going to get tables because every time I saw a DJ doing something dope and entertaining they were using turntables.

Never thought the other stuff was entertaining but I'm a DJ so my ear is very discriminate to wackness

REMY -- this OG or elitist attitude is getting old, it's 2013... Time to get over it. CDJ's can be scratched on now, (I will agree, the technology is still a barely off, but it's really getting damn close - soon, very soon it will be perfected). Then with the use of MIXER effects, looping, samples, etc.. I'm really not sure how you can talk this amount of PURIST and think that Turntablists still have an edge. Matter of time before a new KING with CDJ's arises and smokes your idols on decades old 1200's. Gonna be a sad day when you are there standing lost, dazed and confused, trying to figure out a way to KEEP IT REAL with good ole 1200's. When will you finally concede you have banked on a loosing battle?

Regardless of the medium used it's all about the music. No one (who is paying you) really cares what you use as long as you play good, keep people on the floor, and keep 'em sweating back and forth to the bar. Some of us used to DJ with two tape decks with pitch control and if you didn't see us behind the barrier you'd never know it was cassette tapes. People still considered us "DJ'ing". I have my 12 hun'eds ( customized, gathering dust) and CDJs and every now and then I get questioned but once I start playing they have their answers. Exchange of business cards is usually promptly followed

It's funny how Turntables went OUT of style for a minute, and came right back....

When did they go out of style? I must've been under a rock or something... LOL

never

yep....????

You and me both, over the last year or so, cats been comin' up sayin' "Wow, it's good to see a REAL DJ using Turntables, etc..etc...."

funny, I thought you were talking about learning to spin some house.. You best hit the gym.. those knobs are heavy like a muddafucka.

Learning...????

True Househeads NEVER forget. It's just that after quick mixing Lil Wayne and 2Chainz and other Ratchet tunes for the MONEY - it takes a minute to get back in the swing of playing "real" (deep) House. We don't fist pump much to the real shit but making those knobs look like they weigh 40lbs takes practice and skill...

That's what I need to practice... I suck at that! (nm)

LMAO!!!

You have watched too many big booty hip hop cottage cheese ass vids, your 'true' house cat card has been revoked.

End of the line buddy. Better luck next year.

Revoked - no - expired - yes... I do admit I did kinda like that Bubble Butt Major Lazer vid that Puma was raving about...

maybe I do have issues...

Anyway, back on topic - I did a binge watch and viewed 4 or 5 episodes of MOTM in a row. I am not a scratch nerd but I agree with the rest of class - Lockzi remix was kinda "meh" and if you look at his laptop during the segment - looks like he only had the ONE track loaded. Shit I expected him to have Stems on laptop and at least blend part of it live instead of Heart Hands and knob twists

I was expecting him to do some DJ Enferno live remix shit or at least some DJ Vice shit like where they water down the ratchet hood stuff into trap...

Just saying - he deserved to go home imho - he missed the challenge by just letting the produced track play and just air singing and twisting knobs... he should have threw Cake at the crowd to take it over the top...

Check the laptop beginning at 21:00 www.smirnoff.com

ive noticed a little backlash with tts and scratching. i hear it from the younger set, they think its kinda dated. and it is. i used them, because i hate using cdjs. its like using condoms, except you cant get stds from cdjs.

^This

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Turntables are great. I learned to DJ on them in the late 80's. Used in various bar and club residencies I had in the 90's. But DJing has evolved.

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Real DJ should know the basics. Beatchmatching, Phrasing, and reading the crowd.
His gear has no bearing whether or not he is a real DJ.

nice vid...

im sure most party goers would care less of all the skills/tricks he doing during his performance. Similar to how some view scratching. Only djs will recognize the blood sweat and tears it took to do all of that.

Turntables it is. I've got decades on turntables and it isn't going to stop.

Could you imagine MOTM on a controller? Nope.

Watchwww.youtube.com

isnt that why IPAD BOY (DJ Homme) got scratched on episode 2?..lol

This is because the new jacks have ruined its flavor by poorly performing it and over doing it. Especially those guys that just scratch loudly over every track and have no rhythm. My niece is 15 she thought scratching was stupid until I DJ'd her bday party and they thought it was the coolest stuff ever then and they have had never had a DJ like me.

What Im trying to say is, even back in the day scratching was terrible if you sucked at it. Even if your good at it you have to not over do it

how does every one feel about this

Watchwww.youtube.com

so if i watch flipside kill it on TTs, then do an identical routine on CDJs, ones djing and ones not...interesting

Really? I stopped playing in a cheap table with a boring cheap white table linen years ago.

There's a reason why drummers use drums, when an electronic kit is far easier with a infinite library of kits.

there's a reason why when they perform, pianists sit a large grand piano when it gets the same, if not better, always in key sound out of an electric piano.

sometimes theres alot more to performance equipment then whether or not it does the same exact thing.

how would it fair if billy joel did the 9/11 concert on a nice keyboard on a stand, or if Elton John did Candle in the wind at Lady DI's funeral on a Casio?
Or what if Niel Peart decided he was taking an electric drum kit on the road with Rush rather than his legendary kit?

sure, it might sound exactly the same. it might even sound better on the newer kits
but i dont cant imagine too many new pianists and drummers saying the ivory and sheepskin are dead man, the future is electronic instruments.
(not to say every dj is a trained successful musician, not in the least)

but sometimes it has to do with alot more than a comparison on paper, or features and progress of technology.

Those are big deal events. I doubt any of those dudes are doing house parties or club gigs with those vintage instruments..

Damn... well said dude. I SO HOPE that remains true but realistically I think the button pushers and controller DJs are winning

I have a gig tonight at a little Bar i used to spin at years ago. I guess the new manager ripped out the 1200s and just turned it into a BYOD type thing now (Bring Your Own Decks). I stopped in last night the DJ was using Serato DJ with a NS-6, Windows PC, all in a Oddesey case. I guess the bar just has you plug into a small multichannel mixing board now.

Sound was real shitty, not sure if it was the mixing board, the eq on his controller or what. So not only do I have to bring my own mixer and 1200 or 2 now - but I have to show up early and tweak the sound,

Bad part is I think i lost that periodic friday monthly gig to this controller dude that sucks because i CHARGE MORE (and I was already rock bottom as a favor because I was cool with the manager and staff)...

Hmmm, i need to ask my old manager tonight how much does this new dude charge.

I'm sure I can beat you all with a cassette deck


And no, I don't mean playing with it. Straight smash that sucka on your head. This shit is old. Play whatever the fuck you want. You will suck at whatever you use if you suck and you will succeed at whatever you choose to use if you got skills.

Having said that, I still PREFER using turntables. No amount of effects or buttons can seem to be more fun to me.

That's my preference and my opinion. If you don't like it go suck a dick.

nm

if that "nm" wasnt there....

hahaha

nm

Btw, you can say all you want about controllers and CDJ's coming up by the fact still remains that TURNABLISTS are the only cats who really make those toys stand out. Give them to your average DJ and they don't seem very appealing.

nm

Yeah - with CDJs you are touching a Plater, not a Disk - so that would make you a Plater Jokey - aka a PJ. Same as a controller - PJ.

And if all you do is press Buttons - that would make you a Button Jokey - bka a BJ.

By should be but.

And TURNTABLISTS.


Damn typos.

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lol @ BJ.

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"so if i watch flipside kill it on TTs, then do an identical routine on CDJs, ones djing and ones not...interesting"

That reaffirms what I just wrote. Turntablists make those toys stand out. I don't want to give you guys an analogy outside of DJing but I'm sure you all get what I'm saying

nm

Very good point. Can someone point out a video of someone that isn't a turntablist killing it on a controller? Every video I see usually has a DMC champ throwing down on the latest gadgetry.

which is actually funny, because no dmc champ is going to ever use one.

I actually think the Mia Moretti + violinist thing is kinda neat...in an artistic way....definitely appropriate for an art show, fashion show, wine tasting, corporate event type of setting. But I opine that her style of DJ'ing does not qualify her to be a judge on a DJ competition.

The violinist Caitlin Moe is dope.

did he say cassette?

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pop corn please!!!!!

i just dont see why anyone would want to hear a violinist and a dj. its doesnt sound good, it does look ok if you are playing at a wine and cheese event.

guess im from the south so i think and hear country 'fiddle'. i can see it over some downtempo beats and breaks type stuff with efx, but its awful to me.

HOW COME YOU DIDN'T TELL ME HOW GOOD THE CHEESE WAS!!!!

haha Watchwww.youtube.com

Is Deez considered a "turntablist" or just a damn good DJ?

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Deez is a turntablist. Duh. You should smack the back of your own head for not knowing.

nm

And thanks for proving my point.

nm

I find Mia Morette and her violionist more entertaining than watching someone perform on CDJs or a controller. Now mind you Im a DJ so Im not expected the average joe to feel the same way I do.

Season 1 DJ Rap not eliminated until the scratch challenge.

I got a question. So does that mean all these DJ's that are signed to Numark using NS7's, V7's are they no longer hot DJ's their shows ain't good no more. You don't think Jazzy Jeff on V7's is a hot show wouldn't see that.

I'm just saying if Real Dj's are limited to playing with turntables. Please leave all technology behind. Put away your SL interface, beat machines, dicers, timecode your Serato program which you use. Just go vinyl beacuse vinyl guys say you aint a real DJ if your not rockin vinyl.

Won't catch them on a Serato forum.

Hell I saw the Grand Wizzard Theodore rockin a DDJ-SX all over youtube. Looks like he was having a good time doing that demo.

Stop being a hater and love the music because if you lovin the technique before the music you have no clue whats its about.

That was a horrible performance

Jazzy Jeff has went on record and says that he has tried everything and turntables it is.

That DDJ-SX with Grand Wizzard Theodore was horrible! Typical NY slam mixing, weak basic juggling, gunshot playing, with below par scratches. Also, train wrecked multiple times.

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Saw a few episodes of season 2 on bet. Just came across this thread and got sucked in. I like the show overall but I think the real name ought to be master of the scratch not mix. I would love to see a spin off where electronic dj's are actually judged on their mixing skills and actually mix music for more than a nano second. I love dmc don't get me wrong and I know there are time constraints what not but these guys are scratching not mixing. Coulda just been the few episodes I watched though. Just my 2 cents.

When the 1200's stopped being made in 2010 and drove the price of them skyhigh. Most of what I have seen TT wise lately has been light technology filled crap. They're lighter and have usb capabilities now but other than that they're crap. The only TT I can recommend that's still being made (I think) are the rega's.

The exact reason why EDM DJs don't have a show themselves or don't get much time on shows like this is because EDM DJing is BORING AS SHIT! What kind of challenges would they have, see who can twist the heaviest knob while looking all chorro? Or maybe seeing how long DJ Douchebag can "hold" a mix on his non-pitch-fluctuating-controller of two songs that are of the exact same BPM and song structure? Sorry EDM guys but EDM DJing is boring. Why do you think there's so much theatrical BS and posing that goes on at EDM shows? Yet, go to a hip hop DJs show and you'll see none if that. Just people being entertained by a DJ and a pair if turntables.

You forgot the fist pumping and hand hearts. LOL!

^^^exactly... that's why you need all the drugs and the crazy light shows, when it comes to EDM concerts.

take away all the fancy shit at an edm show, and what do you have left?
---> this guy wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

Have you listened to the uncut full sets from season 3? www.thefuture.fm

Better yet, check out the Redull The3style battles. An EDM centric battle would be BORING. I could car less about who can hold a mix at 128 BPM the longest. Look at the iPad dj. Booted.

I like how the Thre3style battles focus on the all around dj instead of someone who only spins Hip Hop or only EDM, etc. In this day of age, we are in the early stages of a fusion of genres. The normal joe today should be focusing on being proficient in all genre's. Wether it's rockin' a club or a wedding.

The hand hearts are the best. lmao

nm

Just as cool as Dynamix pointing at the deck every minute.

I didn't see this but yeah. Lame. hahaha

nm

Sixxx = My point is that a damn GOOD DJs can have turntablist skills but a Turntablist is usually or not necessarily a "good" DJ. You scratch nerds hang from Q-Berts nuts but he is not a Good all around DJ like a Jazzy Jeff, DJ Flipstyles, or your idol DJ AM. A room full of bitches - er women would be hard pressed to dance and shake ass to a whole Q-bert set?

That's my point... Good DJ can be turntablists but usually not the other way around....

I get what your sayin but u picked a bad example, ive seen qbert kill it at raves back in the day and it wasnt even close to a scratch clinic, he may or maynot be a completly versitile but hes nowhere near a one trick pony

Craze and A trak are some exceptions

But... There certain aren't many

Although, I can see that trend slowly changing over the last decade since the Turntablist learning curve getting cut in 1/2