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While this would be nice I doubt it would ever happen. It would take sales away from Rane equipment.

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If it doesn't happen, users go away & all the sales go with them.

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totally agree timecode support is very usefull

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that would be nice but very doubtful because the people at serato call serato DJ a limited software

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This is one more feature that Torq (RIP :D ) had nailed in their 2.X version. I could use my conectiv (with timecode cds / vinyl) and the xponent (usb midi controller) at once on Torq. I used timecodes for 2 decks and the xponent for 2 decks. It was super cool. With Serato (my favourite) coming up with Serato DJ (the definite future of Digital DJing), I am really looking forward to doing the same with my Numark Serato controller and the SSL interface. Please make this possible.


Regarding these doubts, I doubt if they apply. You need the hardware for operating timecodes. I doubt if one can connect turntables playing timecodes to any mixer and send it to Serato DJ (how do you send? what do you connect to the usb?). I might be wrong but I think the hardware will still be required.
If the timecode translation software can be built into Serato DJ, then it might work without the hardware and if that is possible, then it might be the best way to go. (Still what will you connect to the usb to send the timecode information to Serato? Turntables? CDJs?) I love Rane products (ashes remain where my pockets used to be :D ). I agree this will affect them, but they have a number of non-Serato products too and will surely not close down on account of this.

I was just referring to what I see happening. People talk about switching all the time around here, and all the young DJs I meet are Traktor kids.

Most users of Serato DJ are gonna be on Pioneer, Vestax, and Numark controllers with built-in mixers, phono connections, and USB soundcards.

Why should they buy another USB soundcard with phono connections just to get vinyl control? That's doubling up hardware & wasting USB ports. NI saw this and their main controller has a timecode vinyl option. That's the way things are headed now, and it's too late to change it.

Rane hasn't made a controller yet, while somebody like Vestax has been refining theirs for 5 years, so I'm suspicious of the idea that Rane gets to set the rules about what controllers can do.

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I am a current SSL user who moved over from Traktor & have no plans on moving back.

The only thing from NI that has one eye taking a glance is the S4 setup.

One program with the flexibility of a portable controller when space is limited, a timecode system for playing in a club & both together when you have time and space to setup.

This is what Serato needs to do, merge SSL & DJ utilise the awesome DDJ-SX & it's built in mixer & move into 2013.

Please do it Serato!!! Pleaaaase

There is a reason to why Scratch Live and DJ are two separate software products.

DVS is a partnership with Rane and that's why Scratch Live only works with Rane soundcards. It can be MIDI mapped but the audio runs through Rane hardware.

I don't know if any deal to not step on each others toes exists but I know is good business for Rane and Serato as a partnership not no build rival products alongside an existing working relationship that jeopardise this (Remember N.I. and Stanton with Final Scratch?).

So the only option logically is for Rane to be a part of the controller revolution, either by licence or creating their own controller like the S4.

I very much doubt we'll see DVS in DJ in the near future, if ever.

Scratch Live is a different beast anyway and apart from sync, has much better features. There is a reason Itch wasn't just replaced with Scratch with sync and that's business.

Serato DJ isn't Scratch's rival so they co-exist. If DJ has DVS then instantly we have a rival product competing. These two wasn't morphed together for a reason and will stay this way for the foreseeable future*

*In my opinion.

I do wish that ScratchLive would allow full interface control (including platters) with the DDJ-SX if you also had a SL-1 through SL-4 plugged into it. You would kind of get the best of both worlds this way.

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That really is down to Pioneer and I guess how much ca$h they wave under Serato's nose for programming the SX to SL.

I do think that Serato should map our controllers to SL or at least let us have MIDI out so we can get better control of our devices.

...maybe this is in version 2.5 that isn't far away? We can only wish.
I'd love to see Twitch opened up with Scratch Live natively and use my SL3 as a dongle only.

Gotta wonder...if they DON'T decide to merge the two....will we get a heads up on that roadmap? :\

We don't hear hardly anything any more about the future of any Serato's products since The Bridge for Itch announcement kinda backfired. I think they remained kinda tight-lipped over most future plans ever since, until the time is right.

If DVS was to be included in SDJ, they had their time to shine with an amazing new product. A single product that took the best of Itch and the best of Scratch and blended them together to take on Traktor as the new "all-in-one" DJ solution.

The announcement of Serato DJ as a new product to me confirms there will be two distinct products that will be run in tandem, both taking their own direction in the DJ world.

It could one day be just one ultimate software but I feel that day is years away. Scratch Live still sells bucket loads and Serato DJ isn't doing too bad since Intro is free on plastic WeeGo thingies from the "market leader". Convergence is a great thing as Traktor has proved but there are restrictions on what can be achieved unless Rane get onboard.

Backfired is a polite way to say that.

And given what just the buttons were like on the 57 and the 68, I don't know about Rane trying to do platters and pads on a controller. Bring it on, but I'm skeptical.

Yeah. There's just too many politics in it so I'm in the skeptical camp too.

I'd love to see it but it'll undoubtedly not happen, not in the short term at least.

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Vestax vci-400dj + Technics 1200 with timecode it would be perfect!

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Would definitely like to plug in a 1210 to the DDJ-SX with time-coded vinyl...ideal for scratching ...let's be honest, it adds visual authenticity to the set up...

Although obviously the dream is DDJ-SX with a time coded 1210, bridge to Ableton live with an APC40 / Push....and maybe a midi keyboard...because why be limited?...

Possibilities = Endless

Remembering Serato is a business...you never show all your cards at once

yeah !!! i would like to use it with my 62 and my timecoded vinyls

SO HERE IT IS>>> TIMECODE IN DJ 1.5 :)

Yep...just received the e-mail.

We need an answer from a serato official though. They said on the video that DJ will have DVS support on the new pioneer and rane mixer. However, will us ddj sx users be able to have control vinyl connected to our sx? We would love that feature, cause some of us want both midi control and scratch vinyl

That will be the big question. maybe they will release it as a purchasable plugin for controllers?

As a Rane hardware owner, it came as standard but with a controller I can see it being an additional bit. Like a DVS pack that N.I. do for the S4 and mixers that include timecode and a licence code?

Id rather pay a small fee and be able to use timecode vinyl on my sx, than pay over 1k for a djm900 srt. I personally can't afford it, as a windows user a macbook is a priority

Yes, but i think they will never do this feature for serato dj :(

It's been confirmed in the Q&A thread that it's going to come for supported controllers in the future but no timeline on it.

DVS in the 380 and SX are looking very likely.

Shouldn't we just be able to use an SL box when it's supported?

It will be a plugin by the looks of it that will let you connect turntables/ CD players to the inputs on the controller. There won't be a SL box needed by the looks of it.

wow, then i will be happiest person for a looong time :D

Timecode features for Serato DJ have been announced. Leave questions on the link below.

serato.com

Yeah but that's a million post thread talking about everything. Here we are discussing Timecode in S-DJ. It's much neater in here :)

i cant understand, timecode support is released or what?

they released something what supporting vinyl in serato dj

The new mixers from Rane and Pioneer are supported in this release of 1.5.

In December well get the beta for existing Rane hardware (SL boxes except the SL1 and SL mixers from Rane).

If you want to use it now you need the new mixers.

so no options for sx :( eeeehhh

Not with DVS but HID support is there if you plug in CDJ2000's via USB to the SX.