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Serato Scratch Live Waveform VST or something similar?

DJ_Simo 10:20 PM - 13 December, 2012
Hey all,

After being a DJ for a few years now, and getting into original production over the past year or so, I realize there are many pros to being a DJ before producing. One of these, I feel, is the knowledge of what a track's waveform "should" look like in Scratch Live. One of the first things I do every time I export my work from Ableton (or insert any other DAW here) is drag it into Scratch Live to see what it looks like. I feel like a super simple VST from Serato would be extremely beneficial for those who are into production as well as DJing. I am no programming wizard by any stretch of the imagination, but I feel like pulling this off wouldn't be too terribly difficult? Putting it as the final plugin on the master chain would save me (and I'm sure many others) a TON of time in the "final export" process of production.

With that being said, since I don't think anything like this currently exists from Serato, is there anything similar that could help get the job done?

Thanks!

Simo
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:24 PM - 13 December, 2012
....you can already view waveforms in ableton?
DJ_Simo 10:26 PM - 13 December, 2012
Guess I should been more clear... the Serato waveforms give much better feedback in terms of color. That make more sense?
DJDBAG 10:28 PM - 13 December, 2012
just learn how to do it..You want the waveform to tell u its red because u have bass drum kicks there? shouldnt u be able to know that since...you made it?
DJ_Simo 10:40 PM - 13 December, 2012
Obviously. But sometimes using the Serato waveforms as a crutch (especially when you can't get access to proper monitoring) would be a useful tool on the fly.
phatbob 12:01 AM - 14 December, 2012
The spectrum analyser in Ableton is a far more sensible tool for what you're wanting to do.

Load a lossless mastered track into your Ableton session and use that as a comparison.
dj_soo 12:21 AM - 14 December, 2012
learn to use the spectral analyzer and learn to read it properly. Ideally you should have one on every track in your tune as well as one on the master.

Some 3rd party EQ plugins have spectral analyzers too (and it will be coming to EQ8 once 9 gets released).
DjStevieG 3:45 AM - 28 June, 2013
I think this would be a GREAT idea too !
I am a rookie producer and Pro DJ

I know how to read the spectral analyser in Ableton but i think having the colours there similar to a waveform in Serato would be a great way to visually see levels of the bass, vocals, snare and fx for example.
A lot of the time i bounce a track i am producing it sounds good on my studio monitors, sounds good in my car, then i put it in serato and sometimes i can see there is too much white in there, or the vocals look too loud against the other stuff .

What would be great would be a serato mastering chain with a spectral analyzer and an option to view the master out as a serato waveform

(copyright steve george 2013) HAHA

If anyone knows of an existing analyzer what shows the colours similar to serato please let me know.
DJRedderNYC 8:42 PM - 29 April, 2014
Any updates?
jprime 9:40 PM - 29 April, 2014
Quote:
learn to use the spectral analyzer and learn to read it properly.


This x 100 :)
Konka 10:47 AM - 18 June, 2014
Before you hate op's asking for this, you need to realize, the reason the Serato waveform is such a good tool is NOT just because it shows spectrum in a colour form, its that it shows LOUDNESS.

You can see compression and how your transients are acting over time. Spectrum analysers don't really show that type of thing that well. (they'll show where it's hitting, but to see how the volume of a sound plays out on a linear scale is better shown by a large time oscilloscope, which is technically what the serato waveform is)

Especially in the age of loudness and where you're trying to trick the ear into perceiving dynamics when you're really choking the crap out of everything, serato's RGB spectrum oscilloscope would be a slick production tool

my 2 cents
DJRedderNYC 4:00 PM - 18 June, 2014
Quote:
Before you hate op's asking for this, you need to realize, the reason the Serato waveform is such a good tool is NOT just because it shows spectrum in a colour form, its that it shows LOUDNESS.

You can see compression and how your transients are acting over time. Spectrum analysers don't really show that type of thing that well. (they'll show where it's hitting, but to see how the volume of a sound plays out on a linear scale is better shown by a large time oscilloscope, which is technically what the serato waveform is)

Especially in the age of loudness and where you're trying to trick the ear into perceiving dynamics when you're really choking the crap out of everything, serato's RGB spectrum oscilloscope would be a slick production tool

my 2 cents


Agree 100% , i have yet to find a vst like this
dj_soo 9:26 PM - 18 June, 2014
Quote:
Before you hate op's asking for this, you need to realize, the reason the Serato waveform is such a good tool is NOT just because it shows spectrum in a colour form, its that it shows LOUDNESS.

You can see compression and how your transients are acting over time. Spectrum analysers don't really show that type of thing that well. (they'll show where it's hitting, but to see how the volume of a sound plays out on a linear scale is better shown by a large time oscilloscope, which is technically what the serato waveform is)

Especially in the age of loudness and where you're trying to trick the ear into perceiving dynamics when you're really choking the crap out of everything, serato's RGB spectrum oscilloscope would be a slick production tool

my 2 cents


Isn't that what general waveforms are for? There are also real-time waveform analyzers out there - here's a free one for mac: bram.smartelectronix.com
HCReis 4:35 PM - 11 November, 2014
People don´t get it... This is a wonderful tool, try it for real and you´ll see what we are talking about.
maydo 10:29 PM - 15 January, 2015
Hi @ all,

im also looking for something like this.

Anyone knows the Analyzer from Vengeance VPS Scope ?
It has moving forward waveforms but not colored like in serato.

The VPS Scope with Serato Colors would be really amazing.
FlosstradamusC 11:58 PM - 2 February, 2015
+1

Been hacking a way into doing this with Oszillos Mega Scope and a multiband limiter.

But i cant get a full spectrum.
Frenki 9:38 PM - 11 December, 2015
Look this.
Works well for me.

www.maxforlive.com
cbwiedel 3:33 PM - 1 March, 2016
+1

Here's an updated link for those also interested.

www.maxforlive.com
2.0 12:36 AM - 5 January, 2019
+1
Konka 4:26 AM - 8 January, 2019
Hey peeps, just an update that I've found an vst that'll do this.
It's still in alpha, but it's a pretty slick visualizer plugin,
also it's free which is tight.

Dudes website and the UI aren't the best, the guy working on it is clearly a coder and engineer first. But, I can't argue with the result, it's the only one I've found that does an RGB oscilloscope (spectroscope)

www.jthorborg.com