That was actually pretty impressive. +1 lol.

Explain how, because that was pretty damn good to me.

Keyboard and mouse only with keyboard macro'd to open and close the fader? That's damn good.


Word.

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because I've actually seen Jeff do it live. To see the hand coordination and the movements go along with the sound. With doing this on a comp just makes the beauty and style go down a level because now you can just do it on a program sitting down at a table. There's no beauty or essence to it now. Some people still like watching a dj move those records you know what I'm saying? It's like the death of hip hop. Yeah you can rhyme, but the subjects are garbage.
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Considering most people can't even do this with TT's and a Mixer, and this dude is executing it with a keyboard and mouse which requires extremely finite control... yeah I give him props.

All I know is that I can't do either, so I can respect both.

i still dont buy into this, the lag and the complexity of tapping the key left and right to move the xfader, is just not possible with that routine (it also sounds exactly like a jeff routine, one ive actually seen before, so im pretty sure its dubbed) - if he could really do this i think there would be more vids of him doing it and he'd prob have a little notoriety

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I love how vdj has serato time code lol

Im not buying it. Its impossible to do with just a mouse and keyboard. This guy would have started a whole new trend if you were really capable of doing that routine with Virtual DJ. Also at around 20 secons the two knobs in the middle start getting real funky so that tells me this video was edited, a lot. Plus he wont reply to anyone. Hes basically taking the sound and mimicking the movements.

You may have a point...

If you know how VDJ works, you know that the crossfader can be programmed very specifically. There's only 3 positions needed. So for example you can have left arrow be -50 (to the left), and right be +50 (to the right). So if anything it would be easier than using an actual crossfader since the cuts would be really precise cuz they would always be on the left , exact middle or on the right.

The more unbelievable part is the manipulating the record with the mouse. It's either real or a very well-timed to the music fake.

"There it is!"

That is NOT dubbed...

nah its not dubbed he's got tons of videos doing these routines

yeah not dubbed tons of these videos

and i see nothing wrong wiht it at all its impressive, dude clearly knows how to do it on any sort of deck, that sthe point

I wish he would have actually shown the mouse/ keyboard in view also

you can see the mouse icon being manipulated over the virtual decks.


and damn well too

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I was tripping on that too

There actually are Virtual DJ timecodes, but most people use Serato CV02's; and you can skin Virtual DJ any way you see fit. That is not one of the skins that comes with Serato.

"comes with Virtual DJ"... What I get for typing this early in the morning.

I'd be pissed if this was a dubbed video cuz I'm impressed and I don't wanna waste my props on a con-job.

Its a con, he'd be doing virtual Dj commercials by now.

Also there would be a ton of other people doing it.

Is that your only justification for thinking it's a fake? lol.

Did you even bother watching any of the other videos? Watchwww.youtube.com

<sarcasm> Nah, no one else is doing it so it must be fake... </sarcasm>

Duh, of course I watched his other videos, equally fake. Hes very good at editing video obviously from all his gaming stuff. He wont reply to anyone with questions, why? Whats he afraid of? Because he knows its fake. You guys can believe it all you want. Im not buying it.

This is more like it. Watchwww.youtube.com
The movements from using a mouse and keyboard on VDJ just arent that quick.

And not as precise- Watchwww.youtube.com
Watchwww.youtube.com

That doesn't even look like the same version of VDJ. Judging by the date it's at least a year older.

Dude sucks...he's using cue points to juggle LOL

Has anyone explored the posdibility this was a post made production....would be super easy to animate this over a recorded jazzy routine

That's pretty much the accusation being made. No one here can prove otherwise, though (on either side of the fence).

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what sucks about this type of djing, is that he will never do this live at an event for people to see (I assume)
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the argument would be "what's the difference in making pre-made remixes, blends, and the use of Ableton?" If he edited this to make it sound correct, look legit, I can see him arguing his point.
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I figured there was some kind of acusation....i just wasnt reading 70 posts to figure out which one eceryone settled on lol

Trust that shit is fake. We'd have a lot more "Mouse Djs" than serato, traktor and abelton combined. Id also be a work like, ficky ficky, fresh lol.

It is waaaay too hard to do that on a mouse and keyboard, so if it's legit that is pretty incredible. That being said, I do think it is impossible. Most can't do that on regular turntables.

Mabye hes using vdj with gamer macros like starcraft

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when you say most, you have to put in account of all the wack djs. There are some djs like myself who can do it but that's because we practice. I myself do like using Jeff routines and other great dj's routines as practice so I can incorporate the techniques to my mixes in my own fashion. So I think a lot of scratch djs can do it. You're basic seamless mixing djs cannot.
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Pics or it didnt happen....someone get johnny on the phone

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That's something like what I was thinking... I've played around with trying to "faux-scratch" on the Xone DX a bit using cues. When you can make sure the sample starts in the perfect place with the touch of a button your actual "scratching" and fader work doesn't have to be anywhere near as precise. At the very least using cue points would explain the needle jumping around in the video.

On the other hand, perhaps doing this on a mouse and keyboard hasn't "blown up" because (a) it's extremely difficult (each of the videos is only a few seconds to a few minutes; imagine maintaining that kind of tedious dexterity for an hour; we all know that djing with a keyboard and mouse sucks) and/or (b) because of "a", this sort of thing has extremely limited marketability/use in the "real world" aside from novelty.

Also, judging by the content of the channel he doesn't look like a DJ; he looks like a gamer (and a pretty hardcore one). He may not be approaching this whole thing from the DJ angle at all; think "DJ Hero; Pro edition".

dude its not dubbed

Tell 'em again, they didn't hear you the first time....

Cats be makin' *ish up....

isn't this Roc Raida's Routine and not Jazzy Jeff's.

Watchwww.youtube.com

absolutely not

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so what's the difference of giving this guy props vs a guy/girl djing clubs with computers only? Is it not the same thing that most of us dislike? It's someone who bought a laptop and downloaded software and tried to do what we do. Isn't it the same where now people will feel that to be a scratch dj, you can now use Virtual DJ and hang with us? Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not like this new hybrid "djs" just as most of y'all don't like hip hop from 1996 and later.
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Does it really bother you that much to see someone doing something similar to what you do in a different way? Evangelize much?

If I saw someone doing this in a club with a "computer only" I'd give them props too.

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it does bother me. I love the art of djing with turntables and I want it to be perserved. I want people to love it like I love it or more than I love it. When I see someone on turntables, I feel like they just know. Where you look at them and they look back at you and you can see that they know about tonearm height and gunk on needles. I feel like it's a brotherhood and they learned or went through the same things I did to get to a certain point of djing. It's a club of dinosaurs that are already up against the wall because of Panasonic not producing the Technics 1200s like they were anymore. There some things that shouldn't change because nothing is wrong with it and that is 2 turntables and a mixer supplying the funk and that's my evangelism. Can I get a amen?
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Ay-men
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I honestly dont care how its done at all. Ive seen some amazing controller and CDJ routines and Im a turntablist for life. Each requires skill, time and talent to put together. Ive never seen anyone use a laptop strictly to play in a club. Do they even use a mixer? What kind of program would you use a laptop only to mix in a club?

I guess virtual dj you can use without a mixer?

I've seen people use VDJ and Traktor without mixers with varying degrees of skill levels (none anywhere nearly as technical as that video... mostly just EDM "mix song a into song b" kinda stuff).



Maybe you should do a youtube search on turntablism/scratch routines to help recalibrate your chosen world view. As it stands videos of people using a mouse & keyboard to scratch seem to be very miniscule in number (probably because it's no fun. lol).

Maybe a trackball or old school ball (non laser) mouse would be good for that. I always hated trying to scratch with those sorts of programs with mouse/keyboard.