Cool, can you play The Wobble now?

I find it really difficult to listen to someone complain about waveforms, sync, latest programs, etc. on the Serato forums; or says that you've gotta have two turntables, but is pictured on their own website with CDJs (which is what these same guys were knocking the hell out of 10 years ago before they moved on to complaining about Serato. Then they moved onto saying controllers suck, but TT's and CDJ's are ok - wait, wha...? Then, it's not all controllers suck (after a few were talking about the NS7 and V7, then actually tried them and had nothing further to say - many of them even wanted to know how to use them with SSL. I won't call names).

I could launch into a diatribe on how it's only some DJs who care what other DJs use (allow me to assure that most venue owners and promoters (from bars to superclubs) don't give a damn what you use as long as you make them as much money for as little cost to them. As for your crowd...

To quote M.Bezzle, loosely...

fix my sync?

You've just been OWNED by Dj Sneak!!!

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In the beginning there was the DJ
The DJ built the groove
Felt the groove
Mixed the groove
Two turntables and a mixer!

The DJ was your conductor
He was your guide
He was your Guarantee that you were going to lose your mind

But somethin’s happening to all that
All this hype
All these gawwwd Damn — lap ——-top DJs
Every mother fucka is callin themselves
A Deeeee Jaaaay

Just cause you got yoself a laaaaaap top
Don’t mean you’re a Deeeee Jay.

Get the fuuuuuuck out

Lemme tell you, you’ve got to mix with your ears
You learns to mix with your ears
You’ve gotta watch the floor
You’ve gotta pick the right tracks
And you’ve got to build the groove

Not with wave forms
Not with sync buttons
Not with the latest mash-ups or gimmicks
Not with the latest programs
You’ve got to build the groove
With two turntables and a mix
But what they don’t understand
Is that you pay your price
You earn your spot
You get your shit right.

You got to get it right

We’ve gotta spread this truth
Of all these button pushin
Fake ass
No mixin’ fake DJs

It’s just gotta stop
We gotta STOP!
THE FAKE DJs

We gotta STOP!
THE FAKE DJs

Take your pre recorded
Button pushing
Fake ass mixin
Bullshit

And get the fuuuuuuck out.

Fake ass DJs
Everywhere I look I see a bunch of fake ass DJs

Now this isn’t a dis to the innovators
You’ve just got to respect the architechs
The originators
Like Larry Levan
Frankie Knuckles
Juan Atkins
Derrick May
Kevin Saunderson
Eddie Folks
Jeff Mills
Derrick Carter
DJ Sneak
Doc Martin
Louie Vega
Kenny Dope
Danny Tenaglia
Francois K
Tony Humphries
Carl Craig
Joe Claussell
Timothy Regisford
Danny Krivit
Farley Jackmaster Funk

I thought DJs just play other people's music...

i used to love and respect sneak so much , but seeing his twitter trolling these days .. hmmm this dude has major jealous issues,seriously

Kool Moe Dee vs. LL Cool J = favorite music "beef" of all time.



I might buy that song just for the novelty factor; this is the first official "format diss" song I've heard.

p.s. i want a ns7 and also a vci 300 to do some mixes at work lol

p.s.: I want an NS7, and I would also like a vci 300 to do some mixes at work, lol

Why DJs should play vinyl and not use computers

Nothing beats technics, concord needles and vinyl

Over the past couple of years more and more DJs have converted to using computers to mix with. It's boring and should be outlawed from all serious clubs immediately.

Ok if you're a wedding DJ and have to play shlock and 80s tunes and requests and cannot possibly haul around kilos of records or CDs then I can understand why computer DJing is for you; otherwise, stop it now. And I'll give you 3 good reasons why.

Firstly, and most importantly, the sound quality is inferior. Using CDs is bad enough but using tiny MP3 etc files is terrible. There's a reason why MP3s are such small files, and that's because the alogrithm has 'taken out' a lot of the sound. On headphones you don't notice. In a club you do. Nothing sounds better than concord needles on a vinyl. The sound is fresh, organic and full. Especially for the lower frequencies of bass found commonly in techno and drum and bass. And furthermore, sound is transmitted nearly instantaneously through needles whereas there's often a lag with computers, particularly old computers with small rams.

Secondly, it ruins the visual appeal. Nothing beats seeing a DJ cueing up the vinyl and dropping in the next tune in just the right place and really hearing it. Also watching a DJ show his or her mastery by scratching vinyl is mesmerizing. It makes the DJ a musician and an awesome spectacle. It's live and always original because no 2 mixes or scratches can ever be exactly the same. With a computer they can be and that is boring and not worth paying to watch. I hate DJs who use serato and so give the impression they are playing vinyl. Watch them carefully - they never change the vinyl. It's window dressing.

And thirdly, computer mixing is often cheating. The computer programs have beat counters, analytics and even beat matching to do all the hard work for the DJ. Anybody can quickly sound as good as Carl Cox with some of the computer programs on the market, which is an insult to Carl Cox who is a god on the decks.

Luckily British clubs are not falling for this second rate rubbish and the DJs lose respect for pulling out their apple computers. Unfortunately, in Tokyo it's becoming more and more common for DJs to bore the crowd with their heads stuck in their computer screens. Even Tokyo based DJs are using computers - I presume because they aren't competent with vinyl or are too lazy to bring their record bags. I saw DJ Marky in womb last year and he broke my heart when he played 99% of his set using serato. Holding a deck upside down and scratching is farcical and belongs in a circus and not on the dance floor. That same year and again in Womb in Tokyo, I saw Ed Rush and Optical use 2 CDs all night long. It was pretty much impossible to hear the mixes. We the consumers who fork out big money to see these 'stars' deserve a lot better.

So if you want to be a DJ or take up mixing for a hobby then please buy decks and good needles and do it properly. Besides computers crash and then you'll look like a right twit while silence pervades the room while you re-boot.

As a footnote, my mate saw LTJ Bukem in Argentina the other day. He played a vinyl set - not a CD or computer in sight. Good to see the pioneers still holding true to their roots.

With a computer they can be and that is boring and not worth paying to watch. I hate DJs who use serato and so give the impression they are playing vinyl. Watch them carefully - they never change the vinyl. It's window dressing.

That same year and again in Womb in Tokyo, I saw Ed Rush and Optical use 2 CDs all night long. It was pretty much impossible to hear the mixes..

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Ladies, and Gentlemen...
I present unto thee,
a lesson in the importance of proper grammar!


This implies he wants to take an NS7 and a VCI-300 to do mixes at work.

However, when proper sentence structure and punctuation is used...


We now know that he would not only like an NS7, but he would also like to have a VCI-300 that he can use to make mixes while at work!



Grammar is everything :P

We should all be ashamed of ourselves...

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blogs.laweekly.com <-- Please point me to a single person in this crowd who cared that he wasn't using real Vinyl.

A hoard of fist-pumping drones... I don't value their opinion. If he were to slap on a vinyl track right next to a computer track, I'm sure the crowd would hear AND FEEL the bass and sound quality difference.

I don't get a boner from watching DJs use records at all; looking down at the grooves vs. looking horizontally at the computer screen makes no difference to me. I'm more interested in what's being played.

how would you even get any new music on vinyl? while you are keeping it real with the wax only set, the other guy might be killing it with all the new hot shit.

I find it really difficult to listen to someone complain about waveforms, sync, latest programs, etc. on the Serato forums; or says that you've gotta have two turntables, but is pictured on their own website with CDJs (which is what these same guys were knocking the hell out of 10 years ago before they moved on to complaining about Serato. Then they moved onto saying controllers suck, but TT's and CDJ's are ok - wait, wha...? Then, it's not all controllers suck (after a few were talking about the NS7 and V7, then actually tried them and had nothing further to say - many of them even wanted to know how to use them with SSL. I won't call names).

I could launch into a diatribe on how it's only some DJs who care what other DJs use (allow me to assure that most venue owners and promoters (from bars to superclubs) don't give a damn what you use as long as you make them as much money for as little cost to them. As for your crowd...

To quote M.Bezzle, loosely...

:)

how would you even get any new music on vinyl? while you are keeping it real with the wax only set, the other guy might be killing it with all the new hot shit.

And furthermore, sound is transmitted nearly instantaneously through needles whereas there's often a lag with computers, particularly old computers with small rams.

I understand where he is coming from in the fact that "anybody can be a DJ now as long as you have a hard drive and a controller, as to before you needed to lug around crates of records, turntables, etc, thus taking away from the "art" of DJing. So basically if you weren't REALLY into music, you wouldn't even attempt to DJ. Having been on both sides of the fence, I can sympathize, but I'm not gonna hate. Controllers, and effect modules have opened up a whole new creative world to DJing. It also depends what your specific genre specialty is as well. Mine is Hip Hop, Reggae, and Reggaeton, so I still use 1200's, but with a Rane 62Z. Here's the bottom line, things evolve, its the way of things. More power to you guys smashing your buttons IF you got skills and are getting paid. Thats what it comes down to.....Money, skills, and love what you do!

but with a Rane 62Z.

And what is an SL4 (etc)?

YOU GUESSED IT.

....soundcards?

Well, it's also a MIDI controller as it does the interpretation of the timecode.

(Well, HID, actually. A lot of so-called MIDI controllers are based on USB-HID. But the old terminology sticks I guess).

[We digress, but an SL4 is not an HID device. It is an audio interface which interprets timecode through audio and outputs other audio. No 'human' required.

What's this button do?

Not THAT button! NO....

What's this button do?

Not THAT button! NO....

buttons makes a clicking noise

I have 150GB of high quality music (320Kbps)

You call 320CBR high quality music? Okay.

It's higher quality... but has nothing on Lossless (F/A)LAC or Uncompressed PCM Audio.

but has nothing on Lossless (F/A)LAC or Uncompressed PCM Audio.

Most people who say they can tell the difference actually can't. It requires an audiophile setup and ears that haven't been toasted by years of clubbing. Most venues don't qualify. Even at the place here that has the Funktion One, it barely matters.

lets see, bedroom DJ with vinyl vs. button pushing DJ getting paid......yeah, no argument there. BUT...I get paid and my overhead is low. I love pushing buttons at the ATM machine!

I disagree.

Who cares what format you play in unless it really poor like 128 , no one would tell the difference , everyone in the club is so pissed they come and ask for a song played 2 song previous , so it proves they don't listen anyway so a different format with little difference won't matter

I disagree.