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720p+ files rewriting tags upon each ejection.
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720p+ files rewriting tags upon each ejection.
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720p+ files rewriting tags upon each ejection.
Product
Serato Video
Version
dont-know
Hardware
Rane SL3
Host
Scratch Live
Version
2.3.3
Computer
Mac
OS
Platform
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popnwave
8:21 PM - 21 June, 2012
I am moving towards more HD content in my library. I've noticed an issue with 720p tracks (especially the daily ones from PO HD Hits).
System spec:
Processor 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4
OS X and SSL are fed off the main 1TB internal drive.
I've scrubbed a lot of the info Promo Only uses in their files. I pretty much use Name/Artist/BPM/Year/Comment/Genre. The files are added to 2.3.3 with no issues, and report as analyzed correctly.
First time I play the track in the offline player though, it loads the track and the waveform slloooooooowly starts to display, always quicker at home when previewing than if I load it in the club and have something else playing already. If I let the track play all the way through it saves the waveform correctly so that I can see it properly next time. Here is info on one such track:
General
Complete name : /Users/popnwave/Music/VIDEO/2010s/M.I.A. - Bad Girls (Promo Only Intro Edit) - 72 - 2012.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 184 MiB
Duration : 4mn 2s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 6 351 Kbps
Movie name : Bad Girls (Promo Only Intro Edit*)
Compilation : Yes
Performer : M.I.A.
Genre : Rap
Recorded date : 2012
Encoded date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:27:37
Tagged date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:27:37
BPM : 72
Copyright : Interscope
Cover : Yes
Comment : HD
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Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=12
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 4mn 2s
Bit rate : 6 010 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 19.4 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.272
Stream size : 174 MiB (95%)
Language : English
Tagged date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:28:15
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 4mn 2s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 339 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 497 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 9.80 MiB (5%)
Encoded date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:27:37
Tagged date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:28:15
Here is a video I edited in 720p (tired of waiting for a US release), and overview always loads quickly and no writing on each ejection:
General
Complete name : /Users/popnwave/Music/VIDEO/2010s/Cheryl - Call My Name - 128 - 2012.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 155 MiB
Duration : 3mn 27s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 6 255 Kbps
Movie name : Call My Name
Performer : Cheryl
Genre : Pop
Recorded date : 2012
Encoded date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Tagged date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
BPM : 128
Comment : HD
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.2
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 3mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 997 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 10 000 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.271
Stream size : 149 MiB (96%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Tagged date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 3mn 27s
Source duration : 3mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 253 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 359 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 6.28 MiB (4%)
Source stream size : 6.28 MiB (4%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Tagged date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Now of course the BIGGEST difference I see on the surface is the fact the Cheryl Cole video is NOT writing the overviews to the file and using *.ovb and *.xml file instead.
Could the write on eject just not be as noticeable because it's doing a quick write to these files INSTEAD of saving it to the file?
The biggest worry is when switching around HD files a lot you have a few "oh shit" moments when you think everything is going to pause and drop out.
System spec:
Processor 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4
OS X and SSL are fed off the main 1TB internal drive.
I've scrubbed a lot of the info Promo Only uses in their files. I pretty much use Name/Artist/BPM/Year/Comment/Genre. The files are added to 2.3.3 with no issues, and report as analyzed correctly.
First time I play the track in the offline player though, it loads the track and the waveform slloooooooowly starts to display, always quicker at home when previewing than if I load it in the club and have something else playing already. If I let the track play all the way through it saves the waveform correctly so that I can see it properly next time. Here is info on one such track:
General
Complete name : /Users/popnwave/Music/VIDEO/2010s/M.I.A. - Bad Girls (Promo Only Intro Edit) - 72 - 2012.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 184 MiB
Duration : 4mn 2s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 6 351 Kbps
Movie name : Bad Girls (Promo Only Intro Edit*)
Compilation : Yes
Performer : M.I.A.
Genre : Rap
Recorded date : 2012
Encoded date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:27:37
Tagged date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:27:37
BPM : 72
Copyright : Interscope
Cover : Yes
Comment : HD
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ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=12
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 4mn 2s
Bit rate : 6 010 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 19.4 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.272
Stream size : 174 MiB (95%)
Language : English
Tagged date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:28:15
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 4mn 2s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 339 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 497 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 9.80 MiB (5%)
Encoded date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:27:37
Tagged date : UTC 2012-04-03 18:28:15
Here is a video I edited in 720p (tired of waiting for a US release), and overview always loads quickly and no writing on each ejection:
General
Complete name : /Users/popnwave/Music/VIDEO/2010s/Cheryl - Call My Name - 128 - 2012.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 155 MiB
Duration : 3mn 27s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 6 255 Kbps
Movie name : Call My Name
Performer : Cheryl
Genre : Pop
Recorded date : 2012
Encoded date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Tagged date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
BPM : 128
Comment : HD
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.2
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 3mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 997 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 10 000 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.271
Stream size : 149 MiB (96%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Tagged date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 3mn 27s
Source duration : 3mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 253 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 359 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 6.28 MiB (4%)
Source stream size : 6.28 MiB (4%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Tagged date : UTC 2012-06-20 14:58:31
Now of course the BIGGEST difference I see on the surface is the fact the Cheryl Cole video is NOT writing the overviews to the file and using *.ovb and *.xml file instead.
Could the write on eject just not be as noticeable because it's doing a quick write to these files INSTEAD of saving it to the file?
The biggest worry is when switching around HD files a lot you have a few "oh shit" moments when you think everything is going to pause and drop out.
Matt P
4:18 AM - 26 June, 2012
Hi popnwave,
This sounds like a big issue that i'm interested in seeing if its resolved with the newer version of Serato Video.
You are running Scratch Live 2.3.3 and I assume Video SL?
If you are running Serato Video are you using the 1.1 update? you will have to use it with Scratch Live 2.4.1
Matt P
This sounds like a big issue that i'm interested in seeing if its resolved with the newer version of Serato Video.
You are running Scratch Live 2.3.3 and I assume Video SL?
If you are running Serato Video are you using the 1.1 update? you will have to use it with Scratch Live 2.4.1
Matt P
popnwave
4:56 AM - 26 June, 2012
Right now I'm using 2.3.3 and its ability to play back mp4s w/o the plugin Video-SL installed. THe just having MixEm deal with it. I used to have Video SL running as well but once I converted my serial for possible SV use I couldn't find it again to use.
I can try 2.4. as a parallel install and see if that helps.
I can try 2.4. as a parallel install and see if that helps.
Matt P
5:38 AM - 26 June, 2012
Hi popnwave,
I just sent you a private message with your old serial..
I'd like to see if 2.4.1 and Serato Video help though,
Matt P
I just sent you a private message with your old serial..
I'd like to see if 2.4.1 and Serato Video help though,
Matt P
popnwave
1:14 PM - 26 June, 2012
I'm off until Saturday so I'll do some testing on this with 2.4.x and post the results.
popnwave
1:46 PM - 26 June, 2012
Ok on the surface (and about 15 min of just playing with the offline player) it looks as though the issue is during normal analyzation these bigger 720p just aren't getting the waveforms saved.
However, once I let a track play all the way through and eject it, it seems to finally save this info and next time I load it, I don't have the same issue. It seems to really effect the Promo Only HD files. I just imported a new Metric video I fixed for the club and first playback after analyzation the waveform was already waiting for me and no funky tag write.
If there is something you guys want me to try let me know.
However, once I let a track play all the way through and eject it, it seems to finally save this info and next time I load it, I don't have the same issue. It seems to really effect the Promo Only HD files. I just imported a new Metric video I fixed for the club and first playback after analyzation the waveform was already waiting for me and no funky tag write.
If there is something you guys want me to try let me know.
Matt P
12:08 AM - 27 June, 2012
Hi popnwave,
I'm interested to know if the metadata of the file has any funky characters that might be throwing our software a curveball. Can you upload one of the "Promo Only HD files" using the "attach a file" button below. I can take a look at it and see whats in there.
Thanks
Matt P
I'm interested to know if the metadata of the file has any funky characters that might be throwing our software a curveball. Can you upload one of the "Promo Only HD files" using the "attach a file" button below. I can take a look at it and see whats in there.
Thanks
Matt P