there's specific ITCH forums for such questions. And this is the Feature's and Suggestions thread... thats 2 strikes.

Not really he's asking about something scratch live specific, so bzzt to you

Thx, I was asking id the new HW controler "Vestax VCI-300" will work with ScratchLive. How not that a ScratchLive issue?

And If it's not on there agenda, then it's a "feature suggestion"

:-)

I personally think the ITCH line and SSL should not be mixed up. Not good.

So you would just ignore the mixer controls and use it for the transport controls?

Answer from SAM:

serato.com

one of the reasons i'll buy vci-300 is that i could use it with scratch live and an external mixer with kaoss pad 3 connected to the mixer, so i hope it'll be possible,
i'll try to be the first one to have vci-300 in Poland

ScratchLIVE does not work with ITCH hardware. Only the ITCH software runs with ITCH hardware (and of course any other Midi app).

Well, according to Sam, it will work as a controller for ScratchLIVE. But you'll still need to have a SL1 and external mixer (or the 57) though.

To clarify... it will work as a basic midi controller just like the other Midi controllers do work. This means stuff like the platter will not be supported.

so i could use it to controll the functions of Scratch Live, and thats what i mean

Right.

I was responding to nik

so there won't be a official vci-300 support? like cdj-400 has now?

Maybe? I don't know, I wouldn't count on it though.

i would like to use vci-300 like a basic controller - the functions of Scratch Live and the platter, and to hook it all via sl1 interface to a mixer to use the effect unit hooked up to a regular mixer, cause ITCH doesn't have effects, and thats a way around, i have SL1 and i'll have vci-300 so i think thats a good way to make a workaround for the effects
to would use it as a backup in places where the cdjs or turntables are in miserable condition (buttons melted and stuff)

+1

Everything on the VCI-300 should be mappable as it's a standard MIDI device, the only thing that may (probably) not be mappable are the platters, so you won't be able to "scratch" or cue tracks with the platters. I can't say this for certain, but most likely I would assume not. But you never know, Serato may decide to "natively support" it in ScratchLIVE like the CDJ-400, Denon players, etc. But I wouldn't bet on it.

mapping of the platters - thats my main concern

Well, that's the million dollar question also.

hmmm, it might be cool if you could assign the platters to scroll the library for example, you would have a pretty cool supplement to SSL, (57 functions)

plus have it on hand for the hotel room practice

They will have to eventually allow mapping of platter in scratchlive, no?

who knows.

for me it is rediculous they do not allow routing between SSL and Itch hardware. I mean we own the unit so who cares if there are business or political reasons.
I mean if they offer Denon support why in the hell would they not offer Itch support?? Makes for me 0 cents.

is there ANY piece of hardware that does allow mapping of the platters in ssl to function the way itch functions with its own device? i've searched the forums and haven't seen mention of anything...

nope.

Well yes, actually from serato.com

# Denon DN-HC4500 - www.denondj.com
# Denon DN-HD2500 - www.denondj.com
# Numark iCDX - www.numark.com
# Numark DMC2 - www.numark.com
# Pioneer CDJ-400 - www.pioneerprodj.com

I would expect both new denon's and pioneer's to be supported in the future too...

thanks for those links...is there anything that is built/works like the itch controller that works with ssl? i dont want a cd player that has midi capability, i'm looking for 1 or 2 totally midi platters like the itch controller has. ive used an itch setup, and you can scratch with them. thats a important feature for me. its basically 2 midi turntables.... does anyone know how stantons da scratch works? ive seen their videos but cannot determine if it functions like the itch controller. all they do is trigger music, but no actual scratching or blending. and when i talk of scratching, i mean to be able to scratch at the beginning of a song, then release it and it continues to play, like a turntable or cd deck. i know with da scratch you can scratch in the middle of a song while its already playing...

apologies if i double posted...

Yeah. You're right on WarpNote.
I'm on a different planet altogether.
I was only concerning myself with 'Non-Serato Scratch LIVE Supported' MIDI controllers with scratch platters.
DJ-Tech Professional iMix series, EKS Otus, XP-10, XP-5, DaScratch, Vestax VCI-100, VCI-300, Allen & Heath Xones, BCD-2000, BCD 3000 etc. & any of the DIY MIDI modules.

^ these being the NOT & NON-Supported by Serato Scratch LIVE.
err... right?

Right.
Basically you need a mixer anyway to run SL, if you really want a midi only solution, Id say you're better off running ITCH on VCI 300 anyway. You could still plug that one into a mixer in the club. Also, it uses the same crate library as SL, you know...

As the SL main focus is vinyl, I believe they will mostly use midi for additional stuff like cues, loops & drops, not platter control.

Still exceptions would be the "club standards" ie high quality players from Pioneer, Denon, Numark and maybe Vestax. They do partnerships with all these companies to make it work, I would not expect platter support for Stanton products anytime soon... Also the fact that most of these supported players do cd's is a good for any club environment.

Personally I prefer vinyl and will always do. In the few instances I don't have the possibilty to run Turntables I would run the control signal of a cd player and/or hook up my midi controller (Akai MP24, but considering either korg nano or stanton scs3 for portability). Sure, you have less control, but apart from scratching you can do most mixing tasks easily: pitch, fine pitch, pitchbend, Fast forward, fast rewind etc. And before anyone starts yelling microwave etc, those few events would be like these ones, far into the mountains, fairly rough weather conditions etc -> www.flickr.com

So, bottom line. If you want midi for a light setup, mobile etc, you'll either have to:
1. deal with the limitations (ie use cd control tone and/or midi limited)
2. go with itch
3. jump ship...

well said. I'm totally on side.

yeah, im all vinyl as well, except for rare occasions. i fly alot to dj at schools, and for those events, i wouldnt mind using a midi device like itch's. im anti cd player though, so i guess im also S.O.L.! i know it may sound strange, but id rather use a "cool looking gadget turntable" than a cd player...if im gonna go away from using a real turntable, i wanna go all the way left with it!

yah.

...so why wont they let the vci 300 control ssl?