Serato Video General Discussion
Everyone Running the Specs?
Talk about Serato Video and Video-SL.
Everyone Running the Specs?
djtripp
7:21 AM - 15 December, 2007
Does everyone who is trying the video preview running at the minimum requirements?
My 6 month old laptop is not worthy after all...bastards...
1.66Ghz Core 2 Duo
1.5 Ram
My 6 month old laptop is not worthy after all...bastards...
1.66Ghz Core 2 Duo
1.5 Ram
djoneswitch
9:43 AM - 15 December, 2007
AM at 1 Gig Ram and 1.6. No video output though. Just a white screen
Deejay Z
12:43 PM - 15 December, 2007
Running 2GB 1.83, works fine just no audio output on most files :-/
djoneswitch
1:55 PM - 15 December, 2007
At 1.6 Ghz and I gid RAM, i am getting audio but a white screen. For *.flv, *.avi, *mp4
djoneswitch
2:29 PM - 15 December, 2007
No shit! New Lappies DJ Z,i feel the pain. Atleast ....1500 to meet minimum specs...plus 199 to get the stickers on the mixer. Yup. Dosnt look promising man.
djoneswitch
2:36 PM - 15 December, 2007
Oh yeah! I know, i camp outside mac store hoping santa will deciede to give me a Mac Pro,with about 2.4 Ghz and 3 Gig RAM, and Matte screen. But Santa takes Visa, Mastercard, or 14 years supply of milk and cookies.
So yeah. We still need to spend a lil bit more for SVS.
Hey Mods, cut us some slack. The MSRP is 199, that dosnt mean that that should be the sale price does it. dJ Z and I gotta save up for new Lappies. Prolly should start a thread for lower SVS price too?
So yeah. We still need to spend a lil bit more for SVS.
Hey Mods, cut us some slack. The MSRP is 199, that dosnt mean that that should be the sale price does it. dJ Z and I gotta save up for new Lappies. Prolly should start a thread for lower SVS price too?
Deejay Z
2:43 PM - 15 December, 2007
Well the MSRP on Serato is like 700 bucks....you would be a fool to pay more the 539 American
m0nster
4:43 PM - 15 December, 2007
Running a
HP dv9250CA(Turion TL-52 64 Dual Core 1.6Ghz)
1 Gig ram
120 Gig internal
and everything is fine, i have not touched the preformance sliders, but audio and video, even loading the mp4's over a network drive.
HP dv9250CA(Turion TL-52 64 Dual Core 1.6Ghz)
1 Gig ram
120 Gig internal
and everything is fine, i have not touched the preformance sliders, but audio and video, even loading the mp4's over a network drive.
m0nster
4:43 PM - 15 December, 2007
I should add i have a shared memory video card onboard, think it's like a 7190nvidia go or something.
nobspangle
5:57 PM - 15 December, 2007
Deejay Z, for the files where you get no audio you need to make sure that the audio is in the list of supported codecs.
Deejay Z
6:03 PM - 15 December, 2007
I think there all mp3... Its weird, if I have a video podcast from iTunes it plays perfectly....
djtripp
8:03 PM - 15 December, 2007
this is crap...Rane needs to find a way to drop the specs a little.
$1200 TTM 57SL
$1200 for my laptop
$200 Serato Video Plug-In
Now they need me to upgrade my laptop by $2000 too...
I love their products, but they are costing me more than I can afford.
We better get some free SWAG for all of this.
$1200 TTM 57SL
$1200 for my laptop
$200 Serato Video Plug-In
Now they need me to upgrade my laptop by $2000 too...
I love their products, but they are costing me more than I can afford.
We better get some free SWAG for all of this.
Deejay Z
8:14 PM - 15 December, 2007
I started converting all to Mp4 and it looks like its starting to work
Matt G
11:18 PM - 15 December, 2007
djtripp, the plugin should work on lower spec laptops, but you will need to be more careful with what video file formats (which codecs, bitrates, etc) you play. For example a video file using the H.264 codec requires more processor power than a video file using the MPEG4 codec.
Because of the wide variability in video files it's difficult to specify exact system requirements, so the system requirements we've specified are more guidelines meant to mean something like: "If you have a system of these specs or higher, everything should work fine. If not, you'll need to experiment a bit more to get the best performance."
We'll also be working to improve the performance of the plugin over time in future updates so that it performs better on a wider range of hardware (and wider range of codecs).
Because of the wide variability in video files it's difficult to specify exact system requirements, so the system requirements we've specified are more guidelines meant to mean something like: "If you have a system of these specs or higher, everything should work fine. If not, you'll need to experiment a bit more to get the best performance."
We'll also be working to improve the performance of the plugin over time in future updates so that it performs better on a wider range of hardware (and wider range of codecs).
djtripp
11:21 PM - 15 December, 2007
Thanks Matt. Do you have any suggestions on what I should be doing as far as encoding? I'm not too sure how I should be setting it up for my system. I can't even read the video page. I'm posting a picture of what it looks like on my screen.
www.bass211.com
www.bass211.com
Deejay Z
11:35 PM - 15 December, 2007
Ya thats some effed up shit
Yo Matt.....How about The handbrake Preset ;-) It was not included in the article
Ya thats some effed up shit
Yo Matt.....How about The handbrake Preset ;-) It was not included in the article
djtripp
11:41 PM - 15 December, 2007
p.s. my full specs are..
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.66 1.67Ghz
1.5 Gigs RAm
Running Windows Vista Home 32 bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.66 1.67Ghz
1.5 Gigs RAm
Running Windows Vista Home 32 bit
AFR33K1000
12:03 AM - 16 December, 2007
I Get the same exact look while using the SVS plug in on my laptop running Vista.
Under XP pro no problems, I see all the text and controllers fine.
To really through you off, using the same SVS plugin on my desktop, using Vista again, I can see all the text and controls fine......go figure.
I thought it may be a corrupt install of the 1.8 and SVS install so I un installed, did a registry clean, reboot, then re-installed SVS again but to no avail.........any thought on this?
Specs
Laptop:
Toshiba Satellite A105 Laptop
Dual boot :
XP pro, Vista
Core Duo 2.16Ghz
2Gb Ram
Intel 945GM Integrated Graphics chip
250Gb SATA 5400 RPM internal hard drive
Desktop :
Vista
Intel P4 3Ghz, 2Gb Ram,
Nvidia FX5400 (128mb ram) Graphics card
500Gb Raid hard drive
160Gb Raid hard drive
I Get the same exact look while using the SVS plug in on my laptop running Vista.
Under XP pro no problems, I see all the text and controllers fine.
To really through you off, using the same SVS plugin on my desktop, using Vista again, I can see all the text and controls fine......go figure.
I thought it may be a corrupt install of the 1.8 and SVS install so I un installed, did a registry clean, reboot, then re-installed SVS again but to no avail.........any thought on this?
Specs
Laptop:
Toshiba Satellite A105 Laptop
Dual boot :
XP pro, Vista
Core Duo 2.16Ghz
2Gb Ram
Intel 945GM Integrated Graphics chip
250Gb SATA 5400 RPM internal hard drive
Desktop :
Vista
Intel P4 3Ghz, 2Gb Ram,
Nvidia FX5400 (128mb ram) Graphics card
500Gb Raid hard drive
160Gb Raid hard drive
Matt G
12:34 AM - 16 December, 2007
Yeah that's definitely a bug. I'm guessing the devs will be looking into that shortly.
djtripp
12:43 AM - 16 December, 2007
YAY! Serato should send out t-shirts to people with valid bug finds...
"Found The Serato Bug"
"Found The Serato Bug"
djsteel
10:19 AM - 16 December, 2007
that's some muffed up ish right thurr. Yeah I had some problems with them not playing right at first but then I learned more about encoding and its great now. I'm running a macbook pro 1.83 128 mb video 2 gb ram
Nathan H
11:07 PM - 16 December, 2007
Under XP pro no problems, I see all the text and controllers fine.
To really through you off, using the same SVS plugin on my desktop, using Vista again, I can see all the text and controls fine......go figure.
Yes. Graphics card drivers are different under XP and Vista even with the same machine. That is what this issue will be and now I get the fun of trying to find out how to fix it! ;-)
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I Get the same exact look while using the SVS plug in on my laptop running Vista.Under XP pro no problems, I see all the text and controllers fine.
To really through you off, using the same SVS plugin on my desktop, using Vista again, I can see all the text and controls fine......go figure.
Yes. Graphics card drivers are different under XP and Vista even with the same machine. That is what this issue will be and now I get the fun of trying to find out how to fix it! ;-)
Nathan H
3:47 AM - 17 December, 2007
Hi AFR33K1000, can you follow the steps in our new article about finding info on your graphics card (www.scratchlive.net) and upload the results from both XP and Vista?
That will help heaps in working out what the difference between the two are.
Thanks,
N
That will help heaps in working out what the difference between the two are.
Thanks,
N
Nathan H
2:18 AM - 18 December, 2007
There are some interesting differences between XP and Vista support, not least of which is that Vista says it supports a few extra things (that we don't use but interesting nonetheless).
There are two things which might be worth checking out:
1) The Vista driver is older than the XP one, so you could see if a newer one is available (it looks like the latest is from 14/11/07 downloadcenter.intel.com but please do check this is correct)
2) It says that under XP 128MB of RAM is shared with graphics and under Vista it is only 32MB. I'm not sure if that can be set but if it can you could try increasing this on Vista.
I'm guessing you still get white output under both platforms but I am keen to find out if either of these 2 things changes the screwed up output...
Thanks again,
N
There are two things which might be worth checking out:
1) The Vista driver is older than the XP one, so you could see if a newer one is available (it looks like the latest is from 14/11/07 downloadcenter.intel.com but please do check this is correct)
2) It says that under XP 128MB of RAM is shared with graphics and under Vista it is only 32MB. I'm not sure if that can be set but if it can you could try increasing this on Vista.
I'm guessing you still get white output under both platforms but I am keen to find out if either of these 2 things changes the screwed up output...
Thanks again,
N
dj-jv
2:39 AM - 18 December, 2007
hey can I upload mine. I don't get anything on video preview is completely black on the video browser software?
Nathan H
3:25 AM - 18 December, 2007
We are always keen to get us much information as possible on what is going wrong. If you have a screenshot as well it helps further to categorize what the problem may be :-)
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hey can I upload mine. I don't get anything on video preview is completely black on the video browser software?We are always keen to get us much information as possible on what is going wrong. If you have a screenshot as well it helps further to categorize what the problem may be :-)
AFR33K1000
4:46 AM - 18 December, 2007
There are two things which might be worth checking out:
1) The Vista driver is older than the XP one, so you could see if a newer one is available (it looks like the latest is from 14/11/07 downloadcenter.intel.com but please do check this is correct)
2) It says that under XP 128MB of RAM is shared with graphics and under Vista it is only 32MB. I'm not sure if that can be set but if it can you could try increasing this on Vista.
I'm guessing you still get white output under both platforms but I am keen to find out if either of these 2 things changes the screwed up output...
Thanks again,
N
Hmmm....Interesting findings. It seem I may have some conflicting info to what you posted. I did see the 32mb VRAM from the OpenGL Extension Viewer.XML file for Vista
Found here: i42.photobucket.com
But when I open up the Properties / info from the Intel graphics card viewer, it states my graphics card is capable of using up to 224 shared memory with the current driver under Vista
Min 8mb
Max 224mb
Currently using 70mb
Reference :i42.photobucket.com(I also uploaded the full text report to the serato server, you may want to look for that)
I always try to keep all my system drivers up to date. So I was quite surprised to see the discrepancy. So on your advice I DL the "newer driver" only to find the driver ver. from before and the current one were the same.......Wierd.
Maybe compared to the XP version they seem old cause they use different ver. numbers / builds.
Nonetheless, the Intel Graphics control panel doesn't allow me to adjust the amount of memory for windows to use :(
Seems like it automatically sets the memory according to the load being pushed on it,ie low memory consumption for day to day use, but then allocates high memory usage for for graphics intensive stuff.
I'd like to see a real time performance graph of the memory usage while VSL is in use (of course if I ever get it to work ;/ ) You think an application like this exists?
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There are some interesting differences between XP and Vista support, not least of which is that Vista says it supports a few extra things (that we don't use but interesting nonetheless).There are two things which might be worth checking out:
1) The Vista driver is older than the XP one, so you could see if a newer one is available (it looks like the latest is from 14/11/07 downloadcenter.intel.com but please do check this is correct)
2) It says that under XP 128MB of RAM is shared with graphics and under Vista it is only 32MB. I'm not sure if that can be set but if it can you could try increasing this on Vista.
I'm guessing you still get white output under both platforms but I am keen to find out if either of these 2 things changes the screwed up output...
Thanks again,
N
Hmmm....Interesting findings. It seem I may have some conflicting info to what you posted. I did see the 32mb VRAM from the OpenGL Extension Viewer.XML file for Vista
Found here: i42.photobucket.com
But when I open up the Properties / info from the Intel graphics card viewer, it states my graphics card is capable of using up to 224 shared memory with the current driver under Vista
Min 8mb
Max 224mb
Currently using 70mb
Reference :i42.photobucket.com(I also uploaded the full text report to the serato server, you may want to look for that)
I always try to keep all my system drivers up to date. So I was quite surprised to see the discrepancy. So on your advice I DL the "newer driver" only to find the driver ver. from before and the current one were the same.......Wierd.
Maybe compared to the XP version they seem old cause they use different ver. numbers / builds.
Nonetheless, the Intel Graphics control panel doesn't allow me to adjust the amount of memory for windows to use :(
Seems like it automatically sets the memory according to the load being pushed on it,ie low memory consumption for day to day use, but then allocates high memory usage for for graphics intensive stuff.
I'd like to see a real time performance graph of the memory usage while VSL is in use (of course if I ever get it to work ;/ ) You think an application like this exists?
Skidmark
4:55 AM - 18 December, 2007
I'm running:
12" Powerbook G4
1 Gig of RAM
Runs really well on low-res MOV. High Res MOVs run ok now that I upped the buffer.
I AM REALLY IMPRESSED AND HAPPY WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THIS PROGRAM ON MY OLDER MACHINE!!!! The trick is to choose your clips wisely. ;)
12" Powerbook G4
1 Gig of RAM
Runs really well on low-res MOV. High Res MOVs run ok now that I upped the buffer.
I AM REALLY IMPRESSED AND HAPPY WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THIS PROGRAM ON MY OLDER MACHINE!!!! The trick is to choose your clips wisely. ;)
Nathan H
5:04 AM - 18 December, 2007
There is such an app for Mac (the OpenGL Driver Monitor which is part of Apple's free Developer tools). I'll see if I can find something similar for windows because I really do think it has to do with how much memory OpenGL thinks it has access to (which may not be the same for OpenGL as what is reported by Windows).
I'll think of some other things and see if I can find a machine around here that can be forced to have the same issue...
I'll think of some other things and see if I can find a machine around here that can be forced to have the same issue...
AFR33K1000
5:23 AM - 18 December, 2007
Thanks for your efforts.
I see what you mean. So VSL (or quicktime for that matter) relies on OpenGL to render graphics?
I see what you mean. So VSL (or quicktime for that matter) relies on OpenGL to render graphics?
VJ Justin Allen
4:58 PM - 24 December, 2007
I asked this is a different manner and didn't like my answer, so I'll ask it again in a different way (lol)
If you just want to run audio, no video, would a 1.67 Powerbook Pro with 1.5g memory, using a firewire400 drive work for me?
I would be using the new 1.8 version on an SSL
Thanks again everyone
If you just want to run audio, no video, would a 1.67 Powerbook Pro with 1.5g memory, using a firewire400 drive work for me?
I would be using the new 1.8 version on an SSL
Thanks again everyone
nobspangle
5:06 PM - 24 December, 2007
VJ Allen,
This question is probably in the wrong forum but the answer is yes. 1.67GHz powerbook will be fine with just audio, not sure how low you'll get your buffer, possibly all the way down to 2 (this is the lowest on a Mac) but if not then pretty close.
This question is probably in the wrong forum but the answer is yes. 1.67GHz powerbook will be fine with just audio, not sure how low you'll get your buffer, possibly all the way down to 2 (this is the lowest on a Mac) but if not then pretty close.
VJ Justin Allen
5:19 PM - 24 December, 2007
Thanks! I'm brand new to serato and actually the dvj's for my videos, but If I can use this for audio I can save carrying several hundred CD's with me as well. It's starting to get crowded in the booth :)
mastermind
8:38 PM - 24 December, 2007
running Macbook pro 2.33 with 3 gigs of ram
Runns like a motha fu#king champ!!!!!!!!!
Runns like a motha fu#king champ!!!!!!!!!
Matt G
9:46 PM - 24 December, 2007
PowerBooks tend to be really reliable machines for SSL. Back in the PowerBook days Apple were making more trustworthy hardware, in my experience.
djtripp
4:41 PM - 25 December, 2007
I just upgraded to a 2.3 GHZ Macbook Pro with 2 gigs of Ram.
Flawless.
Not a single drop or glitch so far. 10.4 is stable with the Serato.
Flawless.
Not a single drop or glitch so far. 10.4 is stable with the Serato.
skinnyguy
11:08 PM - 25 December, 2007
xp home
p4 - 3.6 ghz with h/t
not sure on vid card but i have some restrictions
512 ram - did NOT work until i increased it to 2.5 gb ram
xp home
2.0 ghz core 2 duo
can't remember vid card, but i did increase it when i bought it - no restrictions
2 gb ram - works fine
p4 - 3.6 ghz with h/t
not sure on vid card but i have some restrictions
512 ram - did NOT work until i increased it to 2.5 gb ram
xp home
2.0 ghz core 2 duo
can't remember vid card, but i did increase it when i bought it - no restrictions
2 gb ram - works fine
mastermind
10:15 PM - 27 December, 2007
MATT G. I still have my powerbook g4 1.67ghz 1.5 gig of ram and it runns great.the speed is not like my macbook pro but as for as stable is a fuC%ing work horse.I love my powerbook. as far as my boy Deejay Z i don't know.just go to apple.com and look at the specs for the macbookpros.I got a 2 gig card of otherworldcomputing.com it was like 60 bucks.With the two gig i bought and with one of the 1 gig it came with,my macbookpro screams!!!!
Deejay Z
10:28 PM - 27 December, 2007
ya, I'm gonna wait till mac world when they come out with new ones, my college blows out the old ones (last year they had a fully loaded 17" MBP for 1,299!!) I'm hoping for something similar!
Scotrod
12:41 AM - 4 January, 2008
Hi guys,
I'm looking at buying the TTM57 mixer with SL solely for the video options but I don't have a laptop for it. I have an Imac G5 1.8 ghz single processor (about 2-3 years old)
According to the specs this is not enough, but has anyone else used SL video on a simillar or preferably same machine?
I'd hate to buy an expensive mixer w/ program and then not be able to use video until I can afford a new laptop. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
I'm looking at buying the TTM57 mixer with SL solely for the video options but I don't have a laptop for it. I have an Imac G5 1.8 ghz single processor (about 2-3 years old)
According to the specs this is not enough, but has anyone else used SL video on a simillar or preferably same machine?
I'd hate to buy an expensive mixer w/ program and then not be able to use video until I can afford a new laptop. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
DJ Paladin
5:23 AM - 4 January, 2008
Hey I'm running a Dell XPS M1710 with a 2 GHz Core 2 Due, 2 Gigs Ram, and a nvidia 7950 GTX 512mb video card. Any chance ill have a problem running video with this.
nobspangle
8:51 AM - 4 January, 2008
Scotrod, I've not heard of anyone running on a G5 yet. How much RAM do you have and what video card?
Paladin, your laptop should be fine are you on Vista or XP?
Paladin, your laptop should be fine are you on Vista or XP?
skinnyguy
9:45 AM - 4 January, 2008
okay...update for my setup with the duo core. sometimes the left deck gets choppy visuals. i'm guessing it's either my vid card or the fact that the files are both coming from a usb powered drive....or both.
nobspangle
5:27 PM - 4 January, 2008
In that case I'd say you should be sweet, I have a similar system with a slightly better graphics card and it runs fine.
Alixx J
6:44 PM - 4 January, 2008
Im deciding to get a desktop built for work as im resident at my spot and have been for 4 years, it will sit under the booth desk and i hope it will save me a money on the equivalent spec laptop.
Casecom LG-5570 Black/Silver Mid Tower Case £26.10
Intel Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3GHz £155.69
ASUS P5B Socket 775 Core 2 ready £53.77
OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 667MHz £77.99
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM £61.99
LG GSA-H66NBAL 18X SATA DVDRW/DL/RA £17.70
Sapphire HD 3850 Pro 256MB GDDR3 £97.99
Emu-0404 £57.99
Microsoft XP £51.00
Total: 599.22
Hopefully this will run video no probs and be future proof for a while, is there anything that might be needed other than what i listed?
Casecom LG-5570 Black/Silver Mid Tower Case £26.10
Intel Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3GHz £155.69
ASUS P5B Socket 775 Core 2 ready £53.77
OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 667MHz £77.99
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM £61.99
LG GSA-H66NBAL 18X SATA DVDRW/DL/RA £17.70
Sapphire HD 3850 Pro 256MB GDDR3 £97.99
Emu-0404 £57.99
Microsoft XP £51.00
Total: 599.22
Hopefully this will run video no probs and be future proof for a while, is there anything that might be needed other than what i listed?
Culprit
7:32 PM - 4 January, 2008
Get a two video cards, or a video card with dual outputs VGA and make sure it has 512 MBs, prefer NVIDIA. Running Virtual DJ w/ video on my alienware with dual 512mbs no problem.
nobspangle
12:23 AM - 5 January, 2008
I don't think the Asus P5B will support the E6850 processor. If you want to stick with Asus then you'll need a P5K.
I would go for a decent power supply, something like an Enermax, the one that will come in a case costing £26.10 is going to stink, it will struggle to power the Radeon and cause voltage variations which could make the system unstable. Also I would use at least 800MHz RAM and possibly 1066 if the board you get supports it.
Not sure what you want the Emu for.
I would go for a decent power supply, something like an Enermax, the one that will come in a case costing £26.10 is going to stink, it will struggle to power the Radeon and cause voltage variations which could make the system unstable. Also I would use at least 800MHz RAM and possibly 1066 if the board you get supports it.
Not sure what you want the Emu for.
Alixx J
2:14 AM - 5 January, 2008
Thanks for the advice, the EMU has midi connections for when they hopefully add it onto the video plugin, as i have a DJM 800. I will shop around a bit more then and play around with different components to keep the price low.
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