No, what does in say?

I tried to read this since we got the mag at the record store at work at...and someone tore the damn pages out already! I was laughing about it.

On the other forum the admin was talking about Remix magazine so I guess there are two different reviews out. Can't wait to find out what they say...

It's not really a review. Basically they get Shortkut of ISP & Beat Junkie fame to test it out. Off the top of my head I think he complained about the latency when needle dropping. Other than that they were praising it(sounded exactly like he was on records, can carry exclusives, etc.) Nothing really in depth. Also gotta keep in mind when they tested it, he probably had an old version because magazine articles are written so far in advance before publication.

Just got the new Remix the other day where they review SSL. it got good marks.

oops I thought this was about the article in Remix...never read the Scratch mag?

You cant deny that the needle dropping latency is very noticeable (even with a very good calibrated system!), and I am talking about the last few versions, also the actual version.

No doubt Nik, I'm not saying there is no latency when needle dropping but how they worded it, made it seem extremely bad. I think he was saying that it was so bad that it would hinder his ability. Mind you, this is Shortkut we are talking about and I do believe that in his case latency would get in his way.

i think the needle dropping latency is extremely good.

anyway with SSL i find it far easier to use relative mode and click the screen to get to markers extra quicker. far quicker than i could with normal records

Not if youre used to vinyl only, and I bet the ISP guys shortkut etc. are!

Is the needle drop latency going to be improved in future updates or is it something that can't be changed? Sorry if I've missed anything.

In my opinion the needle drop latency is negligible. Although I've noticed that it varies, sometimes it is instantaneous, sometimes it takes like a second (if even that). Just make sure your records are clean so they can track and read properly.

In the SCRATCH magazine article. The author states in his own words not mine.

RESPONSE: When Shortcut needle-drop the stylus on random points of the time coded vinyl, it would synch to the correct part of the sound file but not quick enough. "There"s a split second delay. That doesn't help, especially when your trying to cue up or get into a new song quickly," said Short.

Has the of latency issue been corrected in the new software updates?

Well here www.scratchlive.net AJ said, it takes 1/25th of a second to catch up with the control signal if you needle drop, but my latency is much much higher. Needles in good shape, well calibrated, phono mode, using the latest SSL software build... Dont know if this is normal or not.

Each contiguous 20ms of the noisemap is guaranteed to be unique, but we pattern match on 40ms to provide some robustness to dust, scratches etc. In the future we could provide a preference for adjusting the pattern matching window size thereby allowing a tradeoff between needle-drop latency and accuracy.

The other factor to take into account is how long it takes to randomly seek within the MP3 file. This will add a delay which is dependent on your hard drive and CPU speed.

Sounds like a good preference to add! The closer to the real thing the better! So it is questionable if it could ever be the same as real vinyl?