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TTM 57 SL IS NOT MADE FOR CLUB USE
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TTM 57 SL IS NOT MADE FOR CLUB USE

go411
3:02 AM - 15 September, 2007
Hi i work as a club tech and we bought the TTM57 in January and it breaks every week. First off the fader handler's are made of poor quality. Every month one or two handler's crack in the middle of the dj's set. I find that the production of the mixer was not well put together. I also have the cue switch problem now. It seems that after so much use it completely broke loose from the main board. How is this possible? it's a brand new mixer and i can understand a dj using too much force, but that's tooo much for a new model mixer. Also one of the fader's connectors that's plugged into the chip always cuts loose. I find myself opening the mixer twice a month to plug back in. Is this a good quality mixer for that high price? or just a nice gadget to have for show?

go411
3:07 AM - 15 September, 2007
can someone tip me on how to fix the cue switch w/out sending to rane for repair. That will take to long and we need to have it fixed for club use> i have to buy the cue part and solder into the main board?

go411
3:11 AM - 15 September, 2007
that's what i thought, but we had the TTM56 and never had a problem. I think the quality of some parts for the TTM57 are cheap. That's why they brake fast.

dj disturbed
3:12 AM - 15 September, 2007
BTW.. being a club Tech myself.. I aways know to have back-up stuff just in case something meses up. Every club that I have worked at or are curently working for I have had the same. either the club had back-up stuff (even if its a diff cheeper mixer) or I supplied the back-up.... but chargingthe club mony to rent it while the main thing was out of service.
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can someone tip me on how to fix the cue switch w/out sending to rane for repair. That will take to long and we need to have it fixed for club use> i have to buy the cue part and solder into the main board?BTW.. being a club Tech myself.. I aways know to have back-up stuff just in case something meses up. Every club that I have worked at or are curently working for I have had the same. either the club had back-up stuff (even if its a diff cheeper mixer) or I supplied the back-up.... but chargingthe club mony to rent it while the main thing was out of service.

dj disturbed
3:14 AM - 15 September, 2007
Well from what I understand they 56 and the 57 use the same fader parts and cue fader parts
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that's what i thought, but we had the TTM56 and never had a problem. I think the quality of some parts for the TTM57 are cheap. That's why they brake fast.Well from what I understand they 56 and the 57 use the same fader parts and cue fader parts

go411
3:16 AM - 15 September, 2007
Yeah i hear you ... I order 40 fader handler's for back up, but would never guess that the cue switch bould b rake loose from the board. I mean it's a shame i didn't think it would brake.

go411
3:19 AM - 15 September, 2007
i honestly can imagine how the handlers crack right were the screw goes and the fader falls inside the mixer. It's not right .... and we had the 56 and i never had an issue ... we even looked at our cameras to see if the dj's were treating the mixer bad and nothing is pure usage the wear out.

Super Mario
3:35 AM - 15 September, 2007
What is a handler??? I have the 57 and use it in a club and have never had any issues with it. I can't imagine a 57 breaking every week since January... something sounds quite exaggerated...

go411
3:48 AM - 15 September, 2007
We're at a point .... that we are going to throw it out the window. :>)
If you open the mixer and look at the faders .. you'll see how they are held up by these handle's that you screw into the chip (i didn't know what they were until i called Rane to explain the problem and order the spares)..... take a look when you have a chance. I'm shocked that every week is something new with this mixer. I think is a personal kind of mixer for one person. Not to have at a club that's open 7 nights a week.
If you open the mixer and look at the faders .. you'll see how they are held up by these handle's that you screw into the chip (i didn't know what they were until i called Rane to explain the problem and order the spares)..... take a look when you have a chance. I'm shocked that every week is something new with this mixer. I think is a personal kind of mixer for one person. Not to have at a club that's open 7 nights a week.

AdamJay
7:33 AM - 15 September, 2007
wtf!?!?! yours is a most unique case because the 57 at my club gets used 6 hours each night and its working just the same as the day we took it out of the box.

nik39
10:01 AM - 15 September, 2007
Are you talking about the cue fader or the master/cue button?
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I also have the cue switch problem now. It seems that after so much use it completely broke loose from the main board. How is this possible?Are you talking about the cue fader or the master/cue button?

djdaelo
4:51 PM - 15 September, 2007
LOL!! GO411 Maybe You need to be more gentle with the mixer Bro!! the ttm-57 is an awesome mixer.

go411
5:57 PM - 15 September, 2007
I don't use the mixer ... I only set up for the dj's and service tech issues around the club ..... The mixer sucks .... if it brakes every other week ... it's either the bad one they assembled from their wharehouse. I'm off to fix the cue switch now .... (headphone cue) and wrong i'm not djing at the club nor do i live in a farm ..... I'm in NYC and tech at one of the best clubs in the city... FYI TECH NOT DJ ... i fix the problems and this mixer has tooo many issues for being brand new ... how does the cue switch tears off the main board? I think the club bought a faulty fixer then ... if you so defend it so much .... than it must be the mixert we have at the club ..... but i still think the 56 is much more durable for club use .....

nik39
6:04 PM - 15 September, 2007
So... you didnt answer my question... are you talking about the master/cue button?
Please tick the proper box:
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[ ] no
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Please tick the proper box:
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[ ] what?

Super Mario
10:18 PM - 15 September, 2007
The 57 is essentially the 56 with Serato built in. Same faders... so I'm trying to understand why you say the 56 is great but the 57 is crap. Doesn't make sense... I'm thinking we're near a farm as well... along with the fact that the profile was created on the same day as this post.. hrmmm... I think this guy works for American DJ or Gemini... LOL

DJ Prinvale`
11:23 PM - 15 September, 2007
I use my 57 in the club every weekend and it seems to be made for it.
Other then a few problems with the B1 through B6 buttons it's an amazing mixer and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Other then a few problems with the B1 through B6 buttons it's an amazing mixer and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

ralph
2:30 AM - 16 September, 2007
...i play at 3 spots that use 57's and they are used and abused....but, still work flawlessly. Only complaint is that fader gets sticky sometimes...but, whatever. Other than that, the 57 is solid and sounds better than mostly every mixer that mmost clubs have.
I think you got to check your resident djs. The 57 is a tank.
I think you got to check your resident djs. The 57 is a tank.

DJMark
7:23 AM - 16 September, 2007
I've installed a 57 at one place for over a year now, and some of the DJ's there are pretty rough on it. It's still working perfectly.
Breaking *every week* sounds like someone may be *purposely* sabotaging the mixer, perhaps they're dropping heavy objects on it, or they've developed a DJ-ing technique that they picked up from the gorilla cage at the Brooklyn Zoo.
If something like that was happening at any place I'm responsible for the equipment, some form of surveillance would be part of my troubleshooting for the problem. Whatever it is, it's completely abnormal.
Breaking *every week* sounds like someone may be *purposely* sabotaging the mixer, perhaps they're dropping heavy objects on it, or they've developed a DJ-ing technique that they picked up from the gorilla cage at the Brooklyn Zoo.
If something like that was happening at any place I'm responsible for the equipment, some form of surveillance would be part of my troubleshooting for the problem. Whatever it is, it's completely abnormal.

dj pepi i
3:18 PM - 16 September, 2007
what about the dropout in the middle of the crossfader. That would ruin the mix in the club. That's what is holding me back of buying the mixer. And the other is too frquent lubing/cleaning of the faders - why would I want Rane mixer with such faders? I can live with 2 channels only but not with the above problems. Anyway I'll be going to a Westenddj shop in London - Tottenham Court Road next weekend and I'll see for myself.

nobspangle
3:48 PM - 16 September, 2007
I've had my mixer for about 18 months and I've never cleaned or lubed the faders, they are still like butter.
The fact that you can restore the faders to factory new with a simple clean and lube should be considered a feature, any other mixer would require a replacement fader.
The 3dB drop in the middle of the crossfader is a different matter, it's not a problem for me as I never fade on the crossfader (crossfaders are for cutting) but it is something that should be sorted out. The good news is that it can be fixed via a firmware update so it's just a question of waiting for Rane to release one.
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And the other is too frquent lubing/cleaning of the fadersI've had my mixer for about 18 months and I've never cleaned or lubed the faders, they are still like butter.
The fact that you can restore the faders to factory new with a simple clean and lube should be considered a feature, any other mixer would require a replacement fader.
The 3dB drop in the middle of the crossfader is a different matter, it's not a problem for me as I never fade on the crossfader (crossfaders are for cutting) but it is something that should be sorted out. The good news is that it can be fixed via a firmware update so it's just a question of waiting for Rane to release one.

nik39
3:52 PM - 16 September, 2007
Only happen with the fader curve set at a very soft curve.
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what about the dropout in the middle of the crossfader.Only happen with the fader curve set at a very soft curve.

dj pepi i
4:53 PM - 16 September, 2007
How can I know whether it can be fixed or not or whether it's fixed. For almost £1000 the consumer shouldn't have any doubts about the product. Any RANE reps may comment on this issue please.

go411
5:06 PM - 16 September, 2007
No i don't work for gemini or adj. I think the dj's are breaking the mixer, but my mgr's are convince it's the mixer. I just don't understand how a dj can use sooo much force on a cue switch to completely tear it off from the main circuit board and i don't know how those handler's crack right were the screw are... that the faders fall inside the mixer. It's ridiculous... how much force does a dj use on those faders? i tell them to be gentle with the mixer and that the key on scratching is more on learning how to use your wrist instead of using excesive force w/ your fingers. Well i guess i got enough feedback that suggest the dj's are tooo blame vs a poor quality mixer.

dj disturbed
5:12 PM - 16 September, 2007
It was prolly just ONE dj who broke it to begin with and didnt tell anyone... then the other DJ's just being rough on the mixer during normal use causes what the one DJ did to show up more.
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No i don't work for gemini or adj. I think the dj's are breaking the mixer, but my mgr's are convince it's the mixer. I just don't understand how a dj can use sooo much force on a cue switch to completely tear it off from the main circuit board and i don't know how those handler's crack right were the screw are... that the faders fall inside the mixer. It's ridiculous... how much force does a dj use on those faders? i tell them to be gentle with the mixer and that the key on scratching is more on learning how to use your wrist instead of using excesive force w/ your fingers. Well i guess i got enough feedback that suggest the dj's are tooo blame vs a poor quality mixer.It was prolly just ONE dj who broke it to begin with and didnt tell anyone... then the other DJ's just being rough on the mixer during normal use causes what the one DJ did to show up more.

DJ Prinvale`
6:01 PM - 16 September, 2007
if you don't know how to mix with the volume controls you don't deserve a 57.
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what about the dropout in the middle of the crossfader. That would ruin the mix in the club. That's what is holding me back of buying the mixer. And the other is too frquent lubing/cleaning of the faders - why would I want Rane mixer with such faders? I can live with 2 channels only but not with the above problems. Anyway I'll be going to a Westenddj shop in London - Tottenham Court Road next weekend and I'll see for myself.if you don't know how to mix with the volume controls you don't deserve a 57.

dj pepi i
7:50 PM - 16 September, 2007
Yes you're right I don't deserve to spend so much (my hard earned) money on something that does not perform to my expectations. :-)

Rebelguy
9:39 PM - 16 September, 2007
Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.
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Yes you're right I don't deserve to spend so much (my hard earned) money on something that does not perform to my expectations. :-)Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.

dj disturbed
9:42 PM - 16 September, 2007
Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.
I will say from personal Exp.. I went with the 909 at the time b/c I love the FX unit built into it... no mixer is without issues sometime in its life... But I would like to have a 57... but there are some things on the 909 i just love using!
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Yes you're right I don't deserve to spend so much (my hard earned) money on something that does not perform to my expectations. :-)Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.
I will say from personal Exp.. I went with the 909 at the time b/c I love the FX unit built into it... no mixer is without issues sometime in its life... But I would like to have a 57... but there are some things on the 909 i just love using!

dj pepi i
9:52 PM - 16 September, 2007
Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.
That's some great advice. I don't wanna quit and I won't. It's not whether I deserve TTM57SL - it is the other way around whether ttm57 deserves ME. And stop posting stupid comments. Post a video for example how you mix with the crossfader and tell me - look there is no problem mixing this way. At the end I'm here for more info, for help and advice from other users. But this attitude - if you don't like the mixer f**** off - is not nice.
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Yes you're right I don't deserve to spend so much (my hard earned) money on something that does not perform to my expectations. :-)Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.
That's some great advice. I don't wanna quit and I won't. It's not whether I deserve TTM57SL - it is the other way around whether ttm57 deserves ME. And stop posting stupid comments. Post a video for example how you mix with the crossfader and tell me - look there is no problem mixing this way. At the end I'm here for more info, for help and advice from other users. But this attitude - if you don't like the mixer f**** off - is not nice.

senbad629
10:36 PM - 16 September, 2007
The "handlers" on the 57 are a known problem by the support and repair guys but engineering doesn't believe they are faulty... on the 56 they are thick and beefy so they don't crack in half when the mount screw goes in, on the 57 they are compression molded and seemingly very strong until the screw goes in and cracks it. Before anyone says anything...mine failed, i sent the 57 back to rane and when i got it back 2 faders failed in one night. Now I have a supply of the "handlers" on hand as well.

Rebelguy
10:38 PM - 16 September, 2007
Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.
That's some great advice. I don't wanna quit and I won't. It's not whether I deserve TTM57SL - it is the other way around whether ttm57 deserves ME. And stop posting stupid comments. Post a video for example how you mix with the crossfader and tell me - look there is no problem mixing this way. At the end I'm here for more info, for help and advice from other users. But this attitude - if you don't like the mixer f**** off - is not nice.
Dude...
Chill out. Nowhere in my post did I say to F*** off. My point was that there is no mixer that is without flaws. If you are a Serato user then the mixer offers features that no other mixer can and it happens to be top quality.
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Yes you're right I don't deserve to spend so much (my hard earned) money on something that does not perform to my expectations. :-)Well you might as well quit DJing then because there is no mixer that will perform to your expectations. Is there any mixer in the price range that offers as much...NO. Please don't comment about Pioneer, Allen & Heath, Ecler, etc. I can find just as many if not more user complaints for any of them. The 57 is a 56 with Serato built in and the ability to control it from the mixer. No other mixers do this.
That's some great advice. I don't wanna quit and I won't. It's not whether I deserve TTM57SL - it is the other way around whether ttm57 deserves ME. And stop posting stupid comments. Post a video for example how you mix with the crossfader and tell me - look there is no problem mixing this way. At the end I'm here for more info, for help and advice from other users. But this attitude - if you don't like the mixer f**** off - is not nice.
Dude...
Chill out. Nowhere in my post did I say to F*** off. My point was that there is no mixer that is without flaws. If you are a Serato user then the mixer offers features that no other mixer can and it happens to be top quality.

grrillatactics
2:29 AM - 17 September, 2007
I am not a rane rep, but in all honesty, they have discussed at great lengths the issue with the 3db dip, and it only is when you have the CF curve set all the way to slow. Additionally, it has been proposed (and exhaustively discussed) that since the mixer is digital, that at some point you would be able to set the fader curves to your own preference. So, effectively, there is no doubt, as the 3db dip is known and discussed, it isn't really a problem for a lot of DJ's, and at some point, it will be a user definable setting.
Also, when there is a firmware or software update, all changes and added features are listed in the release notes, so you would have to scroll past all the changes in order to even d/l the update. It would behoove you to read those release notes to know what changes are being made.
To the OP, I am curios how you have had no trouble with a 56's faders in your venue, but problems with the 57's faders, what with them being the same faders used in both mixers. Also, rane reps have discussed that they actually upgraded the plastic that holds the fader in place, now using a stronger plastic than what was used in the 56. It seems that the issue may be either a faulty mixer (which, regardless of manufacturer, would be bound to happen sooner or later) which you could send to rane for either repair or replacement, or a faulty user. My first guess would be that the users of the mixer are intentionally damaging the mixer, for whatever reason. But if that is not the case, I would definitely send the unit to rane to have them check it out. They are pretty nice folks, and I know they would be more than happy to make sure that you are taken care of.
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How can I know whether it can be fixed or not or whether it's fixed. For almost £1000 the consumer shouldn't have any doubts about the product. Any RANE reps may comment on this issue please.I am not a rane rep, but in all honesty, they have discussed at great lengths the issue with the 3db dip, and it only is when you have the CF curve set all the way to slow. Additionally, it has been proposed (and exhaustively discussed) that since the mixer is digital, that at some point you would be able to set the fader curves to your own preference. So, effectively, there is no doubt, as the 3db dip is known and discussed, it isn't really a problem for a lot of DJ's, and at some point, it will be a user definable setting.
Also, when there is a firmware or software update, all changes and added features are listed in the release notes, so you would have to scroll past all the changes in order to even d/l the update. It would behoove you to read those release notes to know what changes are being made.
To the OP, I am curios how you have had no trouble with a 56's faders in your venue, but problems with the 57's faders, what with them being the same faders used in both mixers. Also, rane reps have discussed that they actually upgraded the plastic that holds the fader in place, now using a stronger plastic than what was used in the 56. It seems that the issue may be either a faulty mixer (which, regardless of manufacturer, would be bound to happen sooner or later) which you could send to rane for either repair or replacement, or a faulty user. My first guess would be that the users of the mixer are intentionally damaging the mixer, for whatever reason. But if that is not the case, I would definitely send the unit to rane to have them check it out. They are pretty nice folks, and I know they would be more than happy to make sure that you are taken care of.

nik39
2:03 PM - 17 September, 2007
I am not sure if I like this arguement. Point is, yes the mixer is flexible in *theory* but the number of changes and feature additions mixer wise [except for effects] is very very little so far. 1 1/2 yrs later - we still can't map the EFX to different groups. We still can't map EFX controls to footswitches. The list does not end here...
My suggestion is: If the mixer lacks a certain feature you need, even if it is possible to add it through a software/firmware change, go with a different solution. The hassle of waiting and waiting and waiting is not something you should go through if you bought your equipment to work with it.
One prime example is the mixtape recording function. The current implementation is unfinished at best, the ASIO drivers for the PC are very poor, there is no routing software neither for the PC nor for a Mac... and this after 1 1/2 after the initial release of the mixer. I heard enough of that "yeah, this could be done" - do it. Just do it. If not, please dont talk about it in the public. You are just making users unhappy! [you= Serato+Rane and others, users including myself who use the same played out "this could be changed by firmware"-statement]
You are correct about the faders, but Rane has indeed changed the thing which holds the faders. They also said that the new material should be even more sturdy than the older material (check the post from Steve M).
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Additionally, it has been proposed (and exhaustively discussed) that since the mixer is digital, that at some point you would be able to set the fader curves to your own preference. So, effectively, there is no doubt, as the 3db dip is known and discussed, it isn't really a problem for a lot of DJ's, and at some point, it will be a user definable setting.I am not sure if I like this arguement. Point is, yes the mixer is flexible in *theory* but the number of changes and feature additions mixer wise [except for effects] is very very little so far. 1 1/2 yrs later - we still can't map the EFX to different groups. We still can't map EFX controls to footswitches. The list does not end here...
My suggestion is: If the mixer lacks a certain feature you need, even if it is possible to add it through a software/firmware change, go with a different solution. The hassle of waiting and waiting and waiting is not something you should go through if you bought your equipment to work with it.
One prime example is the mixtape recording function. The current implementation is unfinished at best, the ASIO drivers for the PC are very poor, there is no routing software neither for the PC nor for a Mac... and this after 1 1/2 after the initial release of the mixer. I heard enough of that "yeah, this could be done" - do it. Just do it. If not, please dont talk about it in the public. You are just making users unhappy! [you= Serato+Rane and others, users including myself who use the same played out "this could be changed by firmware"-statement]
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To the OP, I am curios how you have had no trouble with a 56's faders in your venue, but problems with the 57's faders, what with them being the same faders used in both mixers.You are correct about the faders, but Rane has indeed changed the thing which holds the faders. They also said that the new material should be even more sturdy than the older material (check the post from Steve M).

DJ Smooth B.
5:30 PM - 17 September, 2007
fact is, the new material causes more problems than the old, but you have to use it very rough to break the fader. i had one new fader in one year.

DJJorel
10:44 PM - 17 September, 2007
If you open the mixer and look at the faders .. you'll see how they are held up by these handle's that you screw into the chip (i didn't know what they were until i called Rane to explain the problem and order the spares)..... take a look when you have a chance. I'm shocked that every week is something new with this mixer. I think is a personal kind of mixer for one person. Not to have at a club that's open 7 nights a week.
I own both the 56 and the 57 and I know what you are taking about. After about a month of use, those "handles" cracked on me. It looks like for a short while, Rane changed them to a weaker plastic. On my 56, they are solid pieces, whereas on the 57, it looked like they used a different mold.
I got the replacements from Rane, and the mixer has been rock solid ever since, and I replaced the fader anchors (that's what I call them) about 8 months ago.
As for the cue switch problem, mine is still holding up, and the 57 has proven to be every bit as reliable and durable as the 56, except for the small fader problem.
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We're at a point .... that we are going to throw it out the window. :>)If you open the mixer and look at the faders .. you'll see how they are held up by these handle's that you screw into the chip (i didn't know what they were until i called Rane to explain the problem and order the spares)..... take a look when you have a chance. I'm shocked that every week is something new with this mixer. I think is a personal kind of mixer for one person. Not to have at a club that's open 7 nights a week.
I own both the 56 and the 57 and I know what you are taking about. After about a month of use, those "handles" cracked on me. It looks like for a short while, Rane changed them to a weaker plastic. On my 56, they are solid pieces, whereas on the 57, it looked like they used a different mold.
I got the replacements from Rane, and the mixer has been rock solid ever since, and I replaced the fader anchors (that's what I call them) about 8 months ago.
As for the cue switch problem, mine is still holding up, and the 57 has proven to be every bit as reliable and durable as the 56, except for the small fader problem.

KaGeN
12:21 AM - 18 September, 2007
You seriously need to use that 900 pound gorillas to test luggage, not the TTM57.

grrillatactics
11:13 AM - 18 September, 2007
In retrospect, nik, I think I totally agree with you on the "it could be changed with a firmware update" stance. I do think it might be time to see some of these "we can do this" promises come to fruition (split cue, pretty pretty please). It would really be nice to have some of these advertised/promised features that "could be fixed/improved/changed/added in a firmware update". Rane/Serato team, let's step it up a bit!
To be totally truthful, I think some features/changes/additions to the 57 have fallen by the wayside in the push to get video to market. Or maybe it is these changes that are part of the slow release of 1.8 (in which case, take your time, get it right). Either way, nik is right, the 57 is great and all (there isn't another mixer on the market that I would even consider replacing mine with) but it does have an unfinished feeling to it.
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I did not realize that so many people were having issues with the "handles". I am pretty light on the faders, so that could explain why I haven't had any issues.
To be totally truthful, I think some features/changes/additions to the 57 have fallen by the wayside in the push to get video to market. Or maybe it is these changes that are part of the slow release of 1.8 (in which case, take your time, get it right). Either way, nik is right, the 57 is great and all (there isn't another mixer on the market that I would even consider replacing mine with) but it does have an unfinished feeling to it.
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You are correct about the faders, but Rane has indeed changed the thing which holds the faders. They also said that the new material should be even more sturdy than the older material (check the post from Steve M).please note that this:
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To the OP, I am curios how you have had no trouble with a 56's faders in your venue, but problems with the 57's faders, what with them being the same faders used in both mixers.was followed by this:
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Also, rane reps have discussed that they actually upgraded the plastic that holds the fader in place, now using a stronger plastic than what was used in the 56.I did not realize that so many people were having issues with the "handles". I am pretty light on the faders, so that could explain why I haven't had any issues.

cappinkirk
3:06 PM - 18 September, 2007
if you throw it out a window let me know which window and when you'll be doing this...i could always use another 57 lol

cMo
7:54 PM - 18 September, 2007
The 57 with a braaannnnnd new computer and a very well organized library of mp3z & matching crates / subcrates is the hottest shit you could possibly have right now, unless you are a super producer dj that does more of a live pa set.

Rebelguy
8:08 PM - 18 September, 2007
Why would you need a braaaaaaaand new computer? JK
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The 57 with a braaannnnnd new computer and a very well organized library of mp3z & matching crates / subcrates is the hottest shit you could possibly have right now, unless you are a super producer dj that does more of a live pa set.Why would you need a braaaaaaaand new computer? JK

cMo
9:01 PM - 18 September, 2007
haha - I don't know, probably because I'm a fiend like that. Or maybe because any thread with a subject this silly can't be taken seriously...

smoothe
2:45 AM - 19 September, 2007
Yes, guys.
Why were we sooooooo foolish to think the 57 was a good mixer?
Any time you move the fader back and forth it will break!!! OH NO!!! Let me take it back!!!
I hate Serato and the 57!!!!
Why don't we all just ditch Serato and buy Traktor?
We're fools!!!
*sarcasm*
Why were we sooooooo foolish to think the 57 was a good mixer?
Any time you move the fader back and forth it will break!!! OH NO!!! Let me take it back!!!
I hate Serato and the 57!!!!
Why don't we all just ditch Serato and buy Traktor?
We're fools!!!
*sarcasm*

cMo
8:35 PM - 19 September, 2007
yeah, even sarcasm is too good for this thread. Rane makes all their mixers good for club use, duuuuuh

djmoneyd425
1:52 AM - 20 September, 2007
i been on the 57 for almost a year and it's still perfect. i think i lubed my crossfader once...no problems EVER.

nik39
10:40 PM - 20 September, 2007
go411
So... you didnt answer my question... are you talking about the master/cue button?
Please tick the proper box:
[ ] yes
[ ] no
[ ] what?
So... you didnt answer my question... are you talking about the master/cue button?
Please tick the proper box:
[ ] yes
[ ] no
[ ] what?

boabmatic
11:05 AM - 21 September, 2007
nik think its the master/cue button but he refers to it as the headphone cue. this quote is from one of his posts above....
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it's either the bad one they assembled from their wharehouse. I'm off to fix the cue switch now .... (headphone cue) how does the cue switch tears off the main board? I think the club bought a faulty fixer then ...nik think its the master/cue button but he refers to it as the headphone cue. this quote is from one of his posts above....


Shaun W
3:50 PM - 21 September, 2007
We'll be glad to service the mixer here at the factory and run it through a complete diagnostic.
To send the unit in for repair you will need to be issued an RA# (return authorization number). To request an RA, please e-mail me your serial number, full name, shipping address and telephone number.
Once we receive the unit, our turnaround time is typically 3-4 days.
Rane contact -->> rane.com
To send the unit in for repair you will need to be issued an RA# (return authorization number). To request an RA, please e-mail me your serial number, full name, shipping address and telephone number.
Once we receive the unit, our turnaround time is typically 3-4 days.
Rane contact -->> rane.com

nik39
5:18 PM - 21 September, 2007
Well, if thats the case - I also had that problem *twice* already. Rane fixed it w/o any problem. But it should not happen.

nik39
2:36 AM - 22 September, 2007
That was meant to be a comment to:
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Well, if thats the case - I also had that problem *twice* already. Rane fixed it w/o any problem. But it should not happen.That was meant to be a comment to:
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nik think its the master/cue button but he refers to it as the headphone cue.
senbad629
11:58 AM - 23 September, 2007
So tonight my 57 started smoking...I'll be needing a new RA.

Obskeno
6:33 PM - 25 September, 2007
this dude sounds like B.S to me i carry my 57 everywhere i go and i carry it in a soft case too

ralph
5:05 AM - 26 September, 2007
To send the unit in for repair you will need to be issued an RA# (return authorization number). To request an RA, please e-mail me your serial number, full name, shipping address and telephone number.
Once we receive the unit, our turnaround time is typically 3-4 days.
Rane contact -->> rane.com
...this is why i love this company!
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We'll be glad to service the mixer here at the factory and run it through a complete diagnostic.To send the unit in for repair you will need to be issued an RA# (return authorization number). To request an RA, please e-mail me your serial number, full name, shipping address and telephone number.
Once we receive the unit, our turnaround time is typically 3-4 days.
Rane contact -->> rane.com
...this is why i love this company!

ImShifty
6:13 AM - 26 September, 2007
me too, the support is off the heezy, plus you guys are pretty hardcore about a 2 channel dj mixer... Ive actually decided not to trade my 57 in for a DJM 700 + SL1 box.
I know totally off topic but I had to get it off my chest
I know totally off topic but I had to get it off my chest

djsteel
1:02 PM - 27 September, 2007
I've had my problems with what i thought was the 6 main cues not working but I found an electronics cleaner called Deoxit D5 that took care of that problem quick. Now I can rely on the cues working every time.


Zach S
7:22 PM - 28 September, 2007
We have looked into the broken fader end block concerns and have been unable to determine the cause. Out of the close to 50,000 in the field the 20 or so we have seen is a very small number. However, no doubt it is not right and not up to Rane’s quality standards. These are carefully designed parts are extremely strong and should not fail and we have been unable to make any fail here at the factory. Take a look at a couple of videos to see how strong these things are.--> www.rane.com
Rane is continuing to investigate.
Rane is continuing to investigate.

KaGeN
8:00 PM - 28 September, 2007
I just found an extra "TH" in my SQL code, somebody care to explain how it got there?

ralph
8:48 PM - 28 September, 2007
Rane is continuing to investigate.
...so, rane mixer is of poor quality myth...BUSTED!
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We have looked into the broken fader end block concerns and have been unable to determine the cause. Out of the close to 50,000 in the field the 20 or so we have seen is a very small number. However, no doubt it is not right and not up to Rane’s quality standards. These are carefully designed parts are extremely strong and should not fail and we have been unable to make any fail here at the factory. Take a look at a couple of videos to see how strong these things are.--> www.rane.comRane is continuing to investigate.
...so, rane mixer is of poor quality myth...BUSTED!

Rebelguy
11:55 PM - 28 September, 2007
So 50,000 units at a wholesale price of say $1000 equals $50,000,000. Wowzers!!!

go411
4:58 AM - 29 September, 2007
WOW I had no idea this thread would go this far but if this is a good way to say FIN AKA THE END...
The mixer was shipped back to Rane ... I spoke to a tech rep and they were more than happy to hear my complaints and replace the cue switch and faders. I have yet to receive the mixer, but i'm glad i got my frustation out about the mixer and Rane is working on the issues.
Thanks guys u know who you are.....
from NYC
The mixer was shipped back to Rane ... I spoke to a tech rep and they were more than happy to hear my complaints and replace the cue switch and faders. I have yet to receive the mixer, but i'm glad i got my frustation out about the mixer and Rane is working on the issues.
Thanks guys u know who you are.....
from NYC

senbad629
6:51 PM - 29 September, 2007
Honestly I'm offended...the issue is when a self tapping screw goes in and splits apart and then they fail. Ask the 150 people whole left the downstairs room at our club last week if they care about hammers or the fact the fader fell apart again and stopped the music for 10 mins? What I'm about to say sounds dumb... think about those asteroid movies where they drill a whole and destroy them from the inside, it's kinda like that.
To say you haven't broken any at the factory is also rediculous since you broke the one you sent me back and had to send parts for me to fix it again.
To say you haven't broken any at the factory is also rediculous since you broke the one you sent me back and had to send parts for me to fix it again.

nik39
12:25 PM - 9 October, 2007
Rane is continuing to investigate.
Wow... did y'all check the linked videos?
www.rane.com <- click.
What about the theory that the screws fit in so tightly that they loose their grip due to the screw thread fails to hold the screw anymore?
And... now after the myths have been shattered... what was the actual cause on the broken endblocks? I am sure you guys at Rane have received a few broken endblocks by now.
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We have looked into the broken fader end block concerns and have been unable to determine the cause. Out of the close to 50,000 in the field the 20 or so we have seen is a very small number. However, no doubt it is not right and not up to Rane’s quality standards. These are carefully designed parts are extremely strong and should not fail and we have been unable to make any fail here at the factory. Take a look at a couple of videos to see how strong these things are.--> www.rane.comRane is continuing to investigate.
Wow... did y'all check the linked videos?
www.rane.com <- click.
What about the theory that the screws fit in so tightly that they loose their grip due to the screw thread fails to hold the screw anymore?
And... now after the myths have been shattered... what was the actual cause on the broken endblocks? I am sure you guys at Rane have received a few broken endblocks by now.

nik39
3:29 PM - 9 October, 2007
Smooth, how did your end blocks break? Were the screws loose? Did it fall apart?

DJ Smooth B.
5:30 PM - 9 October, 2007
Yup, but i sent my theory to rane, so they know the problem with the screws. Now i check every week my screws...
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Smooth, how did your end blocks break? Were the screws loose? Did it fall apart?Yup, but i sent my theory to rane, so they know the problem with the screws. Now i check every week my screws...

DJ Wreckrd
5:42 PM - 31 December, 2007
where can we get replacement faders? mine has broken as well, ill take some photos and post once I can get a replacement i dont want to take the face off because im afraid i wont be able to use my mixer anymore

djdragon
12:42 AM - 1 January, 2008
Rane is continuing to investigate.
Wow... did y'all check the linked videos?
www.rane.com <- click.
What about the theory that the screws fit in so tightly that they loose their grip due to the screw thread fails to hold the screw anymore?
And... now after the myths have been shattered... what was the actual cause on the broken endblocks? I am sure you guys at Rane have received a few broken endblocks by now.
Actually all of Rane's products use Military Specification Electronic Components, so I'm sure they get a few lemons in that pile too.
There is an old story of when Rane brought out their first DJ mixer why they would use a 'telephone' styled jack and connector for the power supply. So the founder of Rane who was a bit eccentric grabbed the cable and started swing the mixer over his head by cord and everyone freaked out thinking it was going to break and land on someone, and he simply stated 'because it works'.
If anyone from Rane is reading this, do you guys have the tech-doc for that 'audio processor' that did everything and had the big knob on it that said 'ethereal control'? I remember seeing that in the mid 90's on the site.
Quote:
Quote:
We have looked into the broken fader end block concerns and have been unable to determine the cause. Out of the close to 50,000 in the field the 20 or so we have seen is a very small number. However, no doubt it is not right and not up to Rane’s quality standards. These are carefully designed parts are extremely strong and should not fail and we have been unable to make any fail here at the factory. Take a look at a couple of videos to see how strong these things are.--> www.rane.comRane is continuing to investigate.
Wow... did y'all check the linked videos?
www.rane.com <- click.
What about the theory that the screws fit in so tightly that they loose their grip due to the screw thread fails to hold the screw anymore?
And... now after the myths have been shattered... what was the actual cause on the broken endblocks? I am sure you guys at Rane have received a few broken endblocks by now.
Actually all of Rane's products use Military Specification Electronic Components, so I'm sure they get a few lemons in that pile too.
There is an old story of when Rane brought out their first DJ mixer why they would use a 'telephone' styled jack and connector for the power supply. So the founder of Rane who was a bit eccentric grabbed the cable and started swing the mixer over his head by cord and everyone freaked out thinking it was going to break and land on someone, and he simply stated 'because it works'.
If anyone from Rane is reading this, do you guys have the tech-doc for that 'audio processor' that did everything and had the big knob on it that said 'ethereal control'? I remember seeing that in the mid 90's on the site.

Mr. Goodkat
8:30 PM - 3 January, 2008
we've had ttm 57 drink about 4 vodka tonics and a few whiskey cokes, it still works.


Shaun W
8:31 PM - 3 January, 2008
Ah, the good ol' Pseudoacoustic Infector -->> rane.com
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If anyone from Rane is reading this, do you guys have the tech-doc for that 'audio processor' that did everything and had the big knob on it that said 'ethereal control'? I remember seeing that in the mid 90's on the site.Ah, the good ol' Pseudoacoustic Infector -->> rane.com

nik39
8:47 PM - 3 January, 2008
Ah, the good ol' Pseudoacoustic Infector -->> rane.com
Hahaha, that thing is classic!!! Did anyone read the description?
Quote:
Quote:
If anyone from Rane is reading this, do you guys have the tech-doc for that 'audio processor' that did everything and had the big knob on it that said 'ethereal control'? I remember seeing that in the mid 90's on the site.Ah, the good ol' Pseudoacoustic Infector -->> rane.com
Hahaha, that thing is classic!!! Did anyone read the description?
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Nothing has been left out. Transparent to the user but essential to the design is the 128-bit microcontroller running the front panel. Rane's exclusive artificial intelligence (AI) algorithm determines whether the user knows what he's (it's always a he; she's are too smart to buy this thing) doing. The AI controller always overrides totally stupid input.
DJ Prinvale`
8:49 PM - 3 January, 2008
Features
* Independent Power & Glory Switches
* Continuously Variable This/That Level
* Full-Function Ecstacy Generator
* Variable This to That Crossover Frequency
* Here-There Pan (Back Again Switching)
* Program Dependent Sheen Removal
* Anti-Resonant Concrete Chassis
* Proprietary Paint to Reflect Odd Harmonic Light Frequencies to Reduce Nono-Linear Photon Radiation Interference
* Time Warp Compression/Expansion to Synchronize Here/There Time Coordinates
Applications
* New Age Seminars
* Car Washes
* High School Cafeterias
* Funeral Homes
* Executive Washrooms
* High End Audio Demo Rooms
* Community Access Cable Channels
* Airport Baggage Claim Areas
* Cars With Tiny Steering Wheels
* Communications Scrambling
* Railroad Crossing Warning Systems
* Door Stops
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rofl wtfFeatures
* Independent Power & Glory Switches
* Continuously Variable This/That Level
* Full-Function Ecstacy Generator
* Variable This to That Crossover Frequency
* Here-There Pan (Back Again Switching)
* Program Dependent Sheen Removal
* Anti-Resonant Concrete Chassis
* Proprietary Paint to Reflect Odd Harmonic Light Frequencies to Reduce Nono-Linear Photon Radiation Interference
* Time Warp Compression/Expansion to Synchronize Here/There Time Coordinates
Applications
* New Age Seminars
* Car Washes
* High School Cafeterias
* Funeral Homes
* Executive Washrooms
* High End Audio Demo Rooms
* Community Access Cable Channels
* Airport Baggage Claim Areas
* Cars With Tiny Steering Wheels
* Communications Scrambling
* Railroad Crossing Warning Systems
* Door Stops

DJ Prinvale`
8:51 PM - 3 January, 2008
ahhahahahaha
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Several envelope-pushing unique features beg attention. Such as the pneumonic suspension to reduce gravitational electron drift due to tilted chassis;ahhahahahaha

DJ Stuart (AR)
12:23 AM - 4 January, 2008
No, no....Musiclee wants Pseudoacoustic Infector V.2! And he wants it NOW!

djdragon
6:38 AM - 4 January, 2008
Ah, the good ol' Pseudoacoustic Infector -->> rane.com
WICKED! Thanks!
Quote:
Quote:
If anyone from Rane is reading this, do you guys have the tech-doc for that 'audio processor' that did everything and had the big knob on it that said 'ethereal control'? I remember seeing that in the mid 90's on the site.Ah, the good ol' Pseudoacoustic Infector -->> rane.com
WICKED! Thanks!

nobspangle
2:51 PM - 4 January, 2008
good to see the outputs are using Mr. Bill connectors (OH NOOO) that should make it easy to hook up and also it's nice to see they've done away with the RS1 power supply but kept the socket so you can plug your phone into the back.

MODJ
11:11 AM - 7 January, 2008
i've had the pleasure of actually working at both guitar center and pro sound , i've seen almost every mixer in the world, brand new ones and even used ones ...i've had vestax (made in china) last several years on display and also bleed right out of box to be used as a dead paper weight...i've also had the experience of watching every rane piece come out in the last 10 years, and i'd say most , "most" are in great working order out of box and usually last for years because of there great parts and craftsmenship...it's made in the usa by a great team, although one thing- you don't know how it got from washington to timbuktoo? anything could of happened on the way and every now and then you get a bad piece...don't blame the company unless you've tried several pieces...and everyone knows ,once something breaks, it will never be the same...that's why there are warranties... good luck and don't give up...
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Hi i work as a club tech and we bought the TTM57 in January and it breaks every week. First off the fader handler's are made of poor quality. Every month one or two handler's crack in the middle of the dj's set. I find that the production of the mixer was not well put together. I also have the cue switch problem now. It seems that after so much use it completely broke loose from the main board. How is this possible? it's a brand new mixer and i can understand a dj using too much force, but that's tooo much for a new model mixer. Also one of the fader's connectors that's plugged into the chip always cuts loose. I find myself opening the mixer twice a month to plug back in. Is this a good quality mixer for that high price? or just a nice gadget to have for show?i've had the pleasure of actually working at both guitar center and pro sound , i've seen almost every mixer in the world, brand new ones and even used ones ...i've had vestax (made in china) last several years on display and also bleed right out of box to be used as a dead paper weight...i've also had the experience of watching every rane piece come out in the last 10 years, and i'd say most , "most" are in great working order out of box and usually last for years because of there great parts and craftsmenship...it's made in the usa by a great team, although one thing- you don't know how it got from washington to timbuktoo? anything could of happened on the way and every now and then you get a bad piece...don't blame the company unless you've tried several pieces...and everyone knows ,once something breaks, it will never be the same...that's why there are warranties... good luck and don't give up...

djmoneyd425
5:06 AM - 8 January, 2008
mine is a fucking tank, but i agree that there seem to be way more problems with 57's than i would've expextede.

DjBlaze
5:44 AM - 1 June, 2009
I carry my 57 in a backpack with the foam cover for almost a year now.
Just broke the cue fader. Only can hear channel two now.
Reasonably solid build quality if ONE person is using it with medium care. I've beat it up a bit, but not too bad. what I really hate is the loose fader feeling after removing the faders a few times to clean the rails. I jam a wet piece of paper in there and then put the fader on, feels better but still not great. better transform scratches though..........
ZzzZZZZzzzzzzz
Just broke the cue fader. Only can hear channel two now.
Reasonably solid build quality if ONE person is using it with medium care. I've beat it up a bit, but not too bad. what I really hate is the loose fader feeling after removing the faders a few times to clean the rails. I jam a wet piece of paper in there and then put the fader on, feels better but still not great. better transform scratches though..........
ZzzZZZZzzzzzzz

Joshua Carl
7:28 PM - 2 June, 2009
pelican case for transport only folks... u dont have to buy the rane one.
you can get the same model without the logo at most military sites for <100.00
no that fixes any problems....but can stop alot of potentials in transport
if you the tech at a club, you should have contracts with the performers
as well as brief them on how to treat the equipment.
if they break it (reasonable situations here folks...) they own it.
you can get the same model without the logo at most military sites for <100.00
no that fixes any problems....but can stop alot of potentials in transport
if you the tech at a club, you should have contracts with the performers
as well as brief them on how to treat the equipment.
if they break it (reasonable situations here folks...) they own it.

360loop
3:52 AM - 6 July, 2009
All of the knobs on my 57-sl have the wiggles. What do you do? Send it off to rane have them resoder the whole board or what? There is no way to tight them up. Is there anyone else that has run into this problem? I just don't want to be in the middle of a set and have one break off inside the mixer. And I am the only one that uses this mixer and am not rough on it.
You can't just tighten them, If You look into the 57 it is a huge board with the operating knobs sodered to it it is the only thing that holds them down there is no bolt. Why I dont know. I hope they're planning to change this in the future!!! Has anyone else noticied this problem? Josh,
You can't just tighten them, If You look into the 57 it is a huge board with the operating knobs sodered to it it is the only thing that holds them down there is no bolt. Why I dont know. I hope they're planning to change this in the future!!! Has anyone else noticied this problem? Josh,

DJ Phinesse
7:59 PM - 6 July, 2009
I don't know. I've had my mixer since Sept of last year and everything seems to be in working order and I use it in the club a lot. I am also very heavy-handed but, the mixer is still in great shape. I don't know what these djs are doing but, maybe the club needs to go with a cheaper mixer. SMH.

360loop
8:37 PM - 6 July, 2009
Well it has never cut out or stop working on me. May be it was get a defect mixer I got. I never leave my mixer at the club I work at its my personal mixer because I'm the only one that use serato. Can you check you gain/low/input knobs move it back in forth mine have a 1/8-1/4 of play in them. Thanks

360loop
9:15 PM - 6 July, 2009
Ok I just got of the phone with the rane support team member. He seems to think with I do I got a a bad board with my mixer. For all the knobs to be like a said they are. Thanks Rane for the full warranty they are fixing it for free.... You Geys Rock... Josh,

DJ_X_Trodinaire
2:34 AM - 7 July, 2009
mine still works since May 06 one of the first batch :P
used twice a week
though in not a heavy scratcher or tblist
Proud to have Rane Products :)
used twice a week
though in not a heavy scratcher or tblist
Proud to have Rane Products :)

360loop
6:15 AM - 7 July, 2009
OYEA there the bomb I emailed them over the weekend and got this for a reply..
FROM RANE
Hi Josh,
From what you are telling me it sounds like you have some broken potentiometers so the mixer would need to come in here for those kinds of repairs. I can issue you a return authorization number to send it here for repair. I will need your full name, address, phone number and the serial number of the mixer. You can email me this info or give me a call. Turnaround time for repairs is 24 to 48 hours from the time we receive the mixer. If your mixer is still under warranty the repair as well as the return shipping are covered and we match whatever ship you should use (overnight, 2-day)
What else can you say there th best in there game....
FROM RANE
Hi Josh,
From what you are telling me it sounds like you have some broken potentiometers so the mixer would need to come in here for those kinds of repairs. I can issue you a return authorization number to send it here for repair. I will need your full name, address, phone number and the serial number of the mixer. You can email me this info or give me a call. Turnaround time for repairs is 24 to 48 hours from the time we receive the mixer. If your mixer is still under warranty the repair as well as the return shipping are covered and we match whatever ship you should use (overnight, 2-day)
What else can you say there th best in there game....

Prince Ice
5:01 AM - 17 May, 2010
Ok I need a Rane Rep or someone knowledgeable to help. My left channel fader of my TTM57SL just broke off at the screws. I know I was kinda ruff on this mixer so I need a quick replacement. Can Rane overnight me a left channel fader or do I have to send this whole mixer in?

nobspangle
5:18 PM - 19 May, 2010
Prince, chances are all you need are some new end blocks rather than the entire fader. Just email or ring the Rane support and they will sort you out. Contact details are on the Rane website.

SIMPLY SMOOTH
7:56 PM - 26 September, 2010
Rane .. I have the same problem .. We bought the mixer the 57 sl for a radio station and during the 6th month had to get that same cue fader replaced...
It has a major manufacturing flawwww.... Remember that this is supposed to handle heavy duty stuff and at a radio station where you have djs for 24hrs a day .. it couldn't last ..
Why did you guys use a cheap cue fader ??
Why not in co operate the same technology cross fader for the cue fader ..
Djs .. Do the math here
a cross fader will get moved to the left and right .. thousands of more times than the cue fader.. but yet the cue fader is the first to give problems ..
Come on Rane .. Fix It ....
It has a major manufacturing flawwww.... Remember that this is supposed to handle heavy duty stuff and at a radio station where you have djs for 24hrs a day .. it couldn't last ..
Why did you guys use a cheap cue fader ??
Why not in co operate the same technology cross fader for the cue fader ..
Djs .. Do the math here
a cross fader will get moved to the left and right .. thousands of more times than the cue fader.. but yet the cue fader is the first to give problems ..
Come on Rane .. Fix It ....

terrible1fi
4:30 PM - 27 September, 2010
I'm sure they'd be happy to fix it if you gave them a call directly and sent it in.

MarZmatrixZ
9:39 AM - 22 October, 2010
Yeah, the end blocks on ALL 3 faders are broken on both sides. My knobs are also loose especially the headphone & mic knobs. The 2 prongs on each side that hold the knobs in place get bent and loose & thats why the knobs themselves become loose. The cheap black plastic blocks that hold the faders in place was a major design flaw. Tightening the screws too tight will crack and break the foundation of the blocks rendering it unable to hold the faders in place.

MarZmatrixZ
9:41 AM - 22 October, 2010
I'm sorry but for the retail price of this mixer, the design behind the knobs and the end blocks feels like a low blow......


Shaun W
4:17 PM - 22 October, 2010
Hi MarZmatrixZ,
If you're having issues with your unit, all you have to do is ask for assistance :)
Please e-mail me your shipping address and I'll mail you a set of new and improved fader endblocks and a set of replacement fader knobs (free of charge).
Rane contact -->> rane.com
In regards to the loose level controls, we'll be happy to service the unit here at the factory.
To send the unit in for repair you will need to be issued an RA# (return authorization number). To request an RA, please e-mail me your serial number, full name, shipping address and telephone number.
Once we receive the unit, our turnaround time is typically 2-3 days.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
If you're having issues with your unit, all you have to do is ask for assistance :)
Please e-mail me your shipping address and I'll mail you a set of new and improved fader endblocks and a set of replacement fader knobs (free of charge).
Rane contact -->> rane.com
In regards to the loose level controls, we'll be happy to service the unit here at the factory.
To send the unit in for repair you will need to be issued an RA# (return authorization number). To request an RA, please e-mail me your serial number, full name, shipping address and telephone number.
Once we receive the unit, our turnaround time is typically 2-3 days.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

DJ Darwin
11:45 PM - 17 December, 2010
I Played Last night at a new club in nyc and the mixer cue fader wasn't working.I asked the manager how old was the mixer and he told me one week old.

Dj-NRG
4:32 AM - 18 December, 2010
the mixer was not bought off their Dime, so why should they care of it... it's not the mixer, its the person using the mixer that breaks it.. had mine no problems.. shit i'm not going to pay over 1k for a new 57.. i take really good care of it weather its mine or not. unfortunately not all people think a like..
(make them (dj's) start paying for the repairs when it breaks see how fast it stops breaking)
(make them (dj's) start paying for the repairs when it breaks see how fast it stops breaking)

DJ Sidies
1:57 PM - 20 December, 2010
this is so true nag well said. Had mine for over 3 years and its still perfect! I use it for at least 4 hours a day

BERTO
3:56 PM - 20 December, 2010
i hear the 56 compared to 57 arguments and i cant say personally but i have seen the club techs switch out the 57 for 56 before and it never made sense to me.....

maestroent
12:18 AM - 2 February, 2011
i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?

terrible1fi
1:28 AM - 2 February, 2011
"non contact faders"
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i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?"non contact faders"

Joshua Carl
2:00 AM - 2 February, 2011
sounds like the tension spring might not be in place.
its an easy fix
its an easy fix

DJ Tecniq
6:51 AM - 2 February, 2011
damn i was going to get a ttm57 instead of the SL3. Now what im hearing screw that. I used a friends 57 and i thought the faders were made horribly cheap as well as the cue fader it just felt like cheap plastic. For that much money I'll keep my pioneer djm-700 cause the faders rock on them and it's a way more durable mixer.

nik39
11:10 AM - 2 February, 2011
Whot?
You must have been using the wrong mixer. The Rane magnetical faders are known to be one of the best and most durable.
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I used a friends 57 and i thought the faders were made horribly cheapWhot?
You must have been using the wrong mixer. The Rane magnetical faders are known to be one of the best and most durable.


Shaun W
4:33 PM - 2 February, 2011
As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.
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i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.

360loop
10:39 PM - 2 February, 2011
i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?
As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.
That is why I love my Rane TTM57 Customer survive like this. I Thank You
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i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?
As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.
That is why I love my Rane TTM57 Customer survive like this. I Thank You

Niro
9:37 PM - 4 February, 2011
Yeah, the tension spring is loose. What's funny is you usually get the "how tight my fader is"
Rane's contactless fader is the industry standard and is probably one of the best faders out there.
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i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?Yeah, the tension spring is loose. What's funny is you usually get the "how tight my fader is"
Rane's contactless fader is the industry standard and is probably one of the best faders out there.

djdannyd
9:54 PM - 4 February, 2011
probably one of the best faders out there.
Fixed!
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Rane's contactless fader is the industry standard and is Fixed!

ta2423
10:05 PM - 8 February, 2011
i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?
As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.
Damn... Wonder how long it would have taken Pioneer to address the problem.
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i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?
As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.
Damn... Wonder how long it would have taken Pioneer to address the problem.

360loop
10:53 PM - 8 February, 2011
i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?
As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.
Damn... Wonder how long it would have taken Pioneer to address the problem.
It Took Pioneer 3 Months To Get My Head Phones Fixed
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i resently purchase a new tt57sl. its a week old and the channel 1 fader is sliding down on its own when i leave it up. very disappointed, i really looked up to this mixer. i'm thinking about returning the mixer and maybe wait for sl4...?
As Joshua Carl posted, it sounds like the torsion spring is either not correctly positioned or needing a slight tweak. Either way, I can mail you a replacement torsion spring if needed :)
Let me know.
Damn... Wonder how long it would have taken Pioneer to address the problem.
It Took Pioneer 3 Months To Get My Head Phones Fixed

ta2423
11:29 PM - 8 February, 2011
Jbl working on its third month on a sub to get warranty done here...

DJMark
3:11 PM - 6 March, 2011
The user would have probably been banned from their forums.
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Damn... Wonder how long it would have taken Pioneer to address the problem.The user would have probably been banned from their forums.

crisis
12:41 PM - 21 March, 2011
Well, my mixer was playing for 24h in row, without any glich , so yeah 57 is for club use, in that 24 h 10 or more dj was played on it.

Ruffcut Service
5:26 AM - 16 August, 2011
There is no doubt that both the CUE / MIX fader breaks off the pcb during normal use. It has no screws holding it onto anything - just relies on the pcb pins - I have fixed a couple of them....
Also the push switches used in the TT57SL become intermittent and need to be changed regularly and I have heard several report of the fader arms braking off - not that I have ever had to replace one...
We have two TT57's & one TT56 and some of the clubs we do repairs for have them...
Also the push switches used in the TT57SL become intermittent and need to be changed regularly and I have heard several report of the fader arms braking off - not that I have ever had to replace one...
We have two TT57's & one TT56 and some of the clubs we do repairs for have them...

DJ Sidies
9:46 AM - 16 August, 2011
I have had my TTM57SL for nearly four years now! I have never had any problems with my mixer. Nothing has broken and everything works just as it did when it was brand new. I use it every single day.
You guys are just to heavy handed.
As for the switches they get like this when they have dirt and grime under them.
Use a solution called De-Oxit DN5 to clean them. (This is also good for the buttons)
All mixers need to be well looked after. (Just like a car)
You guys are just to heavy handed.
As for the switches they get like this when they have dirt and grime under them.
Use a solution called De-Oxit DN5 to clean them. (This is also good for the buttons)
All mixers need to be well looked after. (Just like a car)


Zach S
6:14 PM - 16 August, 2011
As Sidies said, a simple Deoxit spray fixes this issue right up.
The switch gets oxidization on it over time. The Deoxit cleans it off so its as good as new.
We rarely have to replace the buttons.
I have worked here at Rane for over 5 years and I've seen maybe two mixers come back for repair for this.
Breaking the metal pin that the fader sits on is extremely difficult. Not something normal use would cause.
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Also the push switches used in the TT57SL become intermittent and need to be changed regularlyAs Sidies said, a simple Deoxit spray fixes this issue right up.
The switch gets oxidization on it over time. The Deoxit cleans it off so its as good as new.
We rarely have to replace the buttons.
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and I have heard several report of the fader arms braking off - not that I have ever had to replace one...I have worked here at Rane for over 5 years and I've seen maybe two mixers come back for repair for this.
Breaking the metal pin that the fader sits on is extremely difficult. Not something normal use would cause.

Ruffcut Service
1:15 AM - 17 August, 2011
Zach - I take on board what you have said but people don't complain without reason. Because Rane keep it's it's schematics to itself it isn't easy to ascertain what the switch issue is. We hire the mixers to people and I don't do spraying cleaner into semi sealed tact switched unless there is no other option - we replace them with better tact switches. Regarding the broken cue crossfaders I can only say that I have replaced one or two that have snapped off the pcb and it is obvious that someone else has had this issue too. In a $2000 odd mixer I would take the comment as something that can be improved in a future release...


Zach S
5:23 PM - 17 August, 2011
Hey Ruffcut,
We do appreciate your input. The cue slider breaking is something that has been addressed since the release of the mixer. We now add a bracing bracket which holds it to the board.
As for the B buttons...The switch is not broken. The problem is oxidization and will happen when using any switch. There is no harm in spraying a bit of Deoxit F5 or D5 solution between the top cover and the button. It really does work.
We do appreciate your input. The cue slider breaking is something that has been addressed since the release of the mixer. We now add a bracing bracket which holds it to the board.
As for the B buttons...The switch is not broken. The problem is oxidization and will happen when using any switch. There is no harm in spraying a bit of Deoxit F5 or D5 solution between the top cover and the button. It really does work.

nik39
9:31 AM - 19 August, 2011
Which switches do you use?
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We hire the mixers to people and I don't do spraying cleaner into semi sealed tact switched unless there is no other option - we replace them with better tact switches.Which switches do you use?

DJ_SAMMI
12:54 PM - 22 August, 2011
@ GO411---
Hey bro I just had the same issue with my TTM57's headphone cue slider/fader crapped-- Called up RANE and they sent me the $3 part for free-- take face plate off and be *EXTREMELY CAREFUL* when soldering--I had somebody else do it that knows electronics really well--
Anyway, every lil button on the mixer is replaceable and if you know electronics and are tech savy, I wouldn't feel afraid to attempt it. Rane charges $80/hr plus shipping to do it for you. Hope this helps!
Hey bro I just had the same issue with my TTM57's headphone cue slider/fader crapped-- Called up RANE and they sent me the $3 part for free-- take face plate off and be *EXTREMELY CAREFUL* when soldering--I had somebody else do it that knows electronics really well--
Anyway, every lil button on the mixer is replaceable and if you know electronics and are tech savy, I wouldn't feel afraid to attempt it. Rane charges $80/hr plus shipping to do it for you. Hope this helps!
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