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Why Do People Do This? (My Rant)

DJYoshi 3:38 PM - 26 May, 2011
It's been about a year since I've been on this forum. I've seen a lot of people on here that are down to help other DJ's out. What really pisses me off is the bashing that goes on here. The hate, the doubt, the insecurities that are showcased by some people.
I'll say it and then those who hate can come and hate on me.
Seriously, whether it's helping someone with advice on a playlist, how someone should do something business wise, or even...what people charge... you'll see 10 great replies...then someone will come on and drop a negative comment... Derogatory remarks piss me the f*** off. That sh** is just straight disrespectful...
Just b/c YOU may charge someone in a club, doesn't mean that another DJ doesn't command $500+. $500 USED to be the industry standard. It's how a lot of the established DJ's base their pricing.
If someone doesn't know how to scratch or blend, why do you have to bash them with a commend like: "I've heard better." especially when it's someone that's just starting off..... Some people act like they've never been in the position that beginners or others on the forum have been in before. Some people act like they're the know it all...end all..be all...basically the shit.....
And A LOT of people just do nothing but drop negative comments....
Instead of negatives...help turn that sh** into a positive.....
"i like this part, but you can try working on this part"
that's constructive criticism... not "wtf kind of mix is that."

Many people on the forum talk down instead of to people. Why do you feel the need to do that? Is it because you're insecure with your own situation that you need to log onto a global forum..bash someone to better yourself? Is it because you just like to fu** with people? What is it?

So what if someone makes more $ than you? If you're surviving, then you're good.
If you're reading this, you're better off than 90% of the world already
I turned to people like Roli Rho & Vin Rock when I started rockin... I asked questions and bugged the sh** out of Q-Bert, Roc Raida, etc... and I never saw them treat anyone poorly. Sh** I met Q 3 times, and when I told him I was in Cali rockin a weekend of events, he invited me to his house for a scratch session.... These days, you rarely see that type of love. This game USED to be different... DJ's USED To respect the game, the hustle, the newbies, the craft. Now it just seems that people just want to put others down to move themselves up in stature...

Yes there's competition out there, but just b/c someone's a DJ, doesn't mean that you have to hate on them. I grew up with the thought that if you help others, you'll be helped in return.
The people that hit me for cruise bookings, I've already forwarded off your info. I've put down people with fashion bookings for NY Fashion Week.....and guess what? they've returned the favor getting me 2 or 3 other bookings with promoters and venues I previously didn't have contacts/relations with... I know that tells me something... people are still grateful. DJ's out there can still show love to each other....even if we're all in the same market.. i'll hook them up and they'll take care of me.
That's my little rant for the day... just had to say it.
Bigga Bounce Ent 3:45 PM - 26 May, 2011
Well said.
lvmez 3:52 PM - 26 May, 2011
well said from an established NYC dj.
Billy18bm 4:12 PM - 26 May, 2011
I was just thinking this yesterday.
slimmjimm 4:16 PM - 26 May, 2011
it's, well...............different?
RogerRabbit 4:32 PM - 26 May, 2011
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Well said.

+1..
sacrilicious 4:46 PM - 26 May, 2011
Cheers. It's easy to post little snipes and negative remarks (I definitely do) but thanks for the reminder to keep it positive!
rafaelc 5:10 PM - 26 May, 2011
Wow!!!! I'm in Birmingham,AL. I started Djing a few years back. I love to scratch. I tried to get involve with local Dj's in the scene, but most (not all) have the "I'm better than you" attitude. The funny thing is though most of these peps that act this way didn't really have there own equipment.
O.B.1 5:38 PM - 26 May, 2011
In many cases it's a vicious circle i.e kids who were bullied become bullies type thing.
Why are people bullies? (usually some sort of insecurity)
I never try to bash anyone on here too bad, but I am guilty of smart @$$ remarks...
And I've definitely learned that a little friendship/networking with other DJ's goes alot further than hating on them.

Let's bring back the love...

good post Yoshi!
echa1945mf 5:52 PM - 26 May, 2011
yup thats true , this forum kinda filled with that

i ussually laugh , never get internet get to you
DJ metaphor 5:57 PM - 26 May, 2011
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i ussually laugh , never let the internet get to you


+1

fixed?
echa1945mf 6:00 PM - 26 May, 2011
@methapor

hahahah yes thank you

*this is what happens when ur mixing and browsing damn typo
CMOS 6:05 PM - 26 May, 2011
Its because this forum is filled with Day Job DJs who wish they werent. You really dont see dudes who are grinding 5 nights a week on this forum. Its more people who have a day job and they come here to pass the time. They shit on people to make themselves seem to be of a higher status.

Flame me bishes. i no care.


(PS as one of these Day Job DJs, it does get annoying seeing the same question asked over and over and over and over, you help the first few then its like cmon man do SOME work)
echa1945mf 6:10 PM - 26 May, 2011
im doing 6 nights a week :D some at my residencies some touring , and yes guys like me tend do less on the hating coz we aint got time to waste on hating LOL


music is the universal language of love , if you aint got the love than why the hell do you play music


*posted this from a dj booth of a packed 2000 people capacity club in bali so hate me LOL
HYDRO MATIC 6:21 PM - 26 May, 2011
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This game USED to be different... DJ's USED To respect the game, the hustle, the newbies, the craft. Now it just seems that people just want to put others down to move themselves up in stature...


+1

Its a shame when this needs to be said but its 100% true!
beatdown 6:33 PM - 26 May, 2011
Decent rant, but I've heard better.












j/k well said, man
sacrilicious 8:06 PM - 26 May, 2011
HA
Daktyl 9:56 PM - 26 May, 2011
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A LOT of people just do nothing but drop negative comments....
Instead of negatives...help turn that sh** into a positive.....
"i like this part, but you can try working on this part"
that's constructive criticism... not "wtf kind of mix is that."

I try to keep my criticism constructive, but I'm def guilty of some negativity here and there. Never a "fuck you, you suck" kinda comment, but I can be a bit of a smartass sometimes... When I was growing up my mom would always say to me "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." (no Forrest Gump)
I try to stick by that

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music is the universal language of love , if you aint got the love than why the hell do you play music

...truth
dj_soo 10:08 PM - 26 May, 2011
I definitely get annoyed by some people. You often get a "can someone do my homework for me?" vibe from a certain type of person which is just plain annoying.

But if someone actually needs the help, I will help them.
Tocayo 11:00 PM - 26 May, 2011
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Many people on the forum talk down instead of to people. Why do you feel the need to do that ?


It's the law of averages. When you get so many people in one place there will always be a minority who just want to be nasty for whatever reason, be it an "attention" or "I know best" kind of attitude which they think impresses people, ignoring their comments is the best thing to do.
WestCoastAvenger 11:08 PM - 26 May, 2011
i'm willing to help people if they come correct, and atleast show some sort of effort in trying to figure out what there problem is.. instead of just chiming into the forums and expect everyone to give them the answer... specially when someone else from the community asked about that same topic a few days ago.. atleast google or use the search function before posting the thread..

but i do agree with you 10000%%%.. the dj industry will prosper if we all help/teach each other, the dj scene will only challenge us to get better.. Just pay your dues, don't expect to be the best dj right off the jump, take your time and learn the craft, stop thinking you can be on the top right at the start.. its good to dream big but be realistic.. and practice practice practice!!! specially with other djs don't be shy..

But whatever you do don't make us have to repeat the answer like a broken record.. thanks!
KYLE SMILE 11:52 PM - 26 May, 2011
Lot's of sheep in here agreeing with the majority.

I'm the kind of guy who always helps young and older djs just like i was helped when i first got into djing 11years ago but i see alot of this squabble from both sides - especially here in the UK.

We have clubs putting cheap computers in venues with downloaded music and put bar staff on playing the music - suddenly they're a dj.

I used to work 5-7 nights a week up till 2 years ago and regularly pulled over £1000 ($1700) - now i'm struggling to get half this and my jobs change more frequent than ever. Not because i can't do a good job - because managers younger than me think a cheap dj solves everything and anyone can copy their mates hard drive and turn up with a cheapo laptop and a mini jack (headphone) to phono cable.

It's not just the fact of people undercutting - many can understand that.... but to work for pennies has just killed the art of dj'ing.
DJ Half 12:22 AM - 27 May, 2011
I'm guilty. If I've said anything negative, it's because It's easy for me to do it here. Because I know you won't beat me up or steal my turntables or date my girlfriend. It's easy for me to hurt your feelings and make you want to rant online in front of everyone else.

J/k

But I am guilty, but I try never to post anything that can make you take it personal. If I met anyone in person, I'd give you my shirt.
Dj Mike P. 1:34 AM - 27 May, 2011
Funny thing is 99% of djs I know in real life are cool as hell, but some people hear just give off a real asshole vibe. Jokes are cool but some people just wanna put others down. oh well, its the internet.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:28 AM - 27 May, 2011
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I definitely get annoyed by some people. You often get a "can someone do my homework for me?" vibe from a certain type of person which is just plain annoying.

But if someone actually needs the help, I will help them.

+1

I think some get bashed because they don't make any attempts to do help themselves but come looking for hand outs. I was reading a thread the other day where a "DJ' wanted to know whatever one else was playing so he could build his playlist. C'mon...he's supposed to get flamed for that. Or you have the guys who will post the same "what cans to buy?" "which speaker is better?" "which mixer should I get?" And there are 50 million up to date threads with that information. And they are just too dayum lazy to do a search. They too should get flamed. Now if one of them gets said piece of equipment and ask for help...I'm all in if I can.

The reality is that while Serato and all the other interfaces and software are cool and have taken the game into a complete different level. It has also made it easier for every Joe Schmo with a MP3 collection to think they are a DJ. And they never pay their dues to learn the game and know the art.

And another thing. On the real, too many people are in their feelings and have this "hater" mentality. Meaning....just because I don't agree with you means I'm a hater. Naw that just mean my opinion is not the same as yours. That's what makes us all different.
DJ Half 2:59 AM - 27 May, 2011
...i'm hurt
DJ CISC0 4:07 AM - 27 May, 2011
Hating on other DJs existed back in the days too. Ever since the internet, it's multiplied by gazillions! So it's nothing new in a sense.
RogerRabbit 4:56 AM - 27 May, 2011
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I think some get bashed because they don't make any attempts to do help themselves but come looking for hand outs. I was reading a thread the other day where a "DJ' wanted to know whatever one else was playing so he could build his playlist. C'mon...he's supposed to get flamed for that. Or you have the guys who will post the same "what cans to buy?" "which speaker is better?" "which mixer should I get?" And there are 50 million up to date threads with that information. And they are just too dayum lazy to do a search. They too should get flamed. Now if one of them gets said piece of equipment and ask for help...I'm all in if I can.


Wrong!

Nothing wrong with asking opening a new thread about cans, speaker or mixer.. New equipment comes out all the time and peoples perspectives/opinion sometimes evolve with time. Equipment perceived to be great a month ago, may or may not receive the same review from the original reviewer in the future...

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The reality is that while Serato and all the other interfaces and software are cool and have taken the game into a complete different level. It has also made it easier for every Joe Schmo with a MP3 collection to think they are a DJ. And they never pay their dues to learn the game and know the art.

This is another thing that wrong with the forum... Many are mentally stuck in the era - they grew up..
Those days are over!!!

MP3 dj are here to stay.. but wait... most here are mp3 djs..or WAV.. or FLAC dj..

Push-buttons, midi dj, software only dj's are here to stay..

The learn the game/pay your dues mentality is not progressive... This is the information age - the self help age.. Back in the day, the vinyl era, people didn't have much of the choice to the path to become a dj.. Now.. things have changed..
FrankC15 5:09 AM - 27 May, 2011
Yeah I don't get this either. There seems to be a contingent of immaturity on this forum that combines an "it's all about me" attitude + insecurity + feeling like you need to fuck other people over to get to the top. I think the insecurity come from the feeling that since DJs aren't musicians in the traditional sense, they're a little more dispensable, and that is true to an extent. But, part of the value added of a good DJ is the atmosphere you help create, whether that's through your mixing skills, demeanor, that you're famous, or some combination thereof. In other words, I can't imagine how you will ever get far DJing by being a legit asshole, regardless of your skills. The Tipping Point should probably be required reading for all beginner DJs - DJs should be Mavens and Connectors. Fastidious about music and socially adept enough to bring people together. This often gets ignored. There is such a huge social aspect to DJing there should probably be a whole separate forum for this topic.
Tocayo 10:58 AM - 27 May, 2011
People want to be DJ's for either, the love of music and wanting to really learn the skills or thinking it will make them cool and they will get all the girls hanging round them.
Things have changed hugely now and you either adapt or you're left behind. When I started CD's weren't out lol, all I had to learn mixing and scratching was my ear, no internet or DVD's or people teaching cause it was all new then. I just listened to early Jeff, Cash Money and guy's like that's records, then dissected them and practice all the time for months solid, once I learned all the skills I would spend a few months locked in my room putting together a 6 minute set for the DMC Championships, that is where my love lay for DJing cause I was totally immersed in it.

I agree with onother view that some people think they are DJ's just because they get the gear (all the gear and no idea) but for me, my position these day's is more music production, I still DJ but it's not as important.
The internet played it's part in killing the scene also cause it was all about getting the vinyl that no one else had and it cost cash to de a DJ but now with the internet, everyone can get the same as everyone else, it's a double edged sword.
Being a DJ wasn't as easy to get into back then but as I said, times change and you need to decide whether to stay on the ride or get off.
djkcutz 11:16 AM - 27 May, 2011
Agreed 100% on the rant. But hip-hop has deep roots in competion. I think what people are missing is the "constructive critisim" mistaking constructive w/ destructive.

word.
Dj Shamann 12:56 PM - 27 May, 2011
I help people, I shit on people. Depends on their attitude, it is what it is.

One thing I don't really do is make fun of mixes (unless dude/chick is calling people out with it which is rare) You generally have two types of people posting mixes in the amateur stage, ones who are testing the waters and generally want/need feedback, I usually tell them what i heard wrong and reassure them if they're on the right path. And then there's the ones who no matter what anybody says to the contrary, they have an excuse for why they did what they did and shut criticism down with the "think what you think, i'm'a do me" attitude. I don't even bother with those threads.
Dj Shamann 12:59 PM - 27 May, 2011
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I usually tell them what i heard wrong and reassure them if they're on the right path.



Damn no edit.

I usually tell them what I heard right/wrong and reassure them if they're on the right path. I didn't mean to sound like i only point out mistakes.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:13 PM - 27 May, 2011
Wow we have alot of sheep in here popin off with the its a small world after all kumbai evert thing would be great if it wasnt dout these mean mean people but your overlooking the reality of what it is, 99.9% of the time if you give consrconstructive critism such as its a great mix but you need to work on x y z what u get back is an angry tyraid about how you dont know what your talking about and they play for x amount of people and get paid this or that. Half the people who post a mix post expectin to have their mix posted As a sticky and worshipped. Ive also seen guys with great mixes get praise and come back with the "greatest mix ever" and get pissy when people dont agree. I see no point in sugar coating because the crowd def won't

Personally I never bash on skill level because I suck but I do love social psych, I like to see how peopl react to stimuli because their reaction shows u who they really are and what they really want out of this. You gotta throw a shlt to the chin to see who has a glass jaws because everyone is holifield until they take one in the chin, and if you get offended because someone on the internet cracked a joke you have issues. I consider myself more of an entertainer or performer more than a strict "dj", and at any given time theres an auduence of 500-2000 people most of whom love to see a train wreck. I have no problem being the but of the joke for a laugh so to hell wirh anyone who can't handle the same


Si
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:14 PM - 27 May, 2011
Some of yall take this internet thing amd the things the imaginary people on it say waaaaay to seriously
Snav 1:41 PM - 27 May, 2011
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Many people on the forum talk down instead of to people. Why do you feel the need to do that ?


It's the law of averages. When you get so many people in one place there will always be a minority who just want to be nasty for whatever reason, be it an "attention" or "I know best" kind of attitude which they think impresses people, ignoring their comments is the best thing to do.


spot on
WestCoastAvenger 5:25 PM - 27 May, 2011
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Some of yall take this internet thing amd the things the imaginary people on it say waaaaay to seriously

+1

New dj's are just getting soft.. lol
sixxx 5:44 PM - 27 May, 2011
I speak my mind whether is positive or negative. I don't care if you like it or not. If you like it, great! If not, kill yourself and your family too.
dj skraps 5:55 PM - 27 May, 2011
best solution to the problem...ignore the ignorant posts, show no interest...thats all they are after anyway - is a response.

if most all of us did this...theyd have no fun and go away (somewhat) lol
the_black_one 6:00 PM - 27 May, 2011
some of the post are ridiculous. It's hard not to say something "SMART ASS".
dj skraps 6:06 PM - 27 May, 2011
the problem starts and escalates if the other person takes offense and gives that "smart ass" remark play...

smart ass remarks will always be there...others just gotta look past them and keep it movin
Dj Shamann 6:19 PM - 27 May, 2011
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smart ass remarks will always be there...



Who cares? Does it really ruin your day to read them? And people who come to the internet expecting stuffed animals and flowers, what year are they living in? "Oh they're just looking for a response, turn your head children and look away" and what are you looking for when you post, no response? You're taking this shit too seriously man.

Any time I let screennaame123 ruin my day because he said something not nice to me is the day I hang up my modem.
the_black_one 6:24 PM - 27 May, 2011
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smart ass remarks will always be there...



Who cares? Does it really ruin your day to read them? And people who come to the internet expecting stuffed animals and flowers, what year are they living in? "Oh they're just looking for a response, turn your head children and look away" and what are you looking for when you post, no response? You're taking this shit too seriously man.

Any time I let screennaame123 ruin my day because he said something not nice to me is the day I hang up my modem.



^^^^^ this
DJJorel 7:04 PM - 27 May, 2011
It's not a coincedence that some of the most respected and established DJs out there are also some of the most humble...

BUT...if you want to DJ and you want to become successful doing it, you had better be able to take criticism and learn from it. Even though someone is talking down to you, you might be able to learn something from it. And face it, 90 percent of your audience is not going to really appreciate the hard work you put into your art, so you had better have a thick skin and not get butt hurt by the criticism.

And since DJing is so popular these says, your audience may include a few DJs as well. Whether they are better than you or not is not the issue. You will get criticized...it's just the nature of what DJing is all about.

My friend was once an aspiring stand-up comedian...they hear feedback almost right away, and they can't hide behind a Fatman Scoop track or a top 40 hit. If he didn't listen to the criticism, even the criticism that seems more condescending than anything else, then he probably would've given up on it years ago. Now he is a writer for a very successful network sitcom...
sixxx 7:04 PM - 27 May, 2011
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And people who come to the internet expecting stuffed animals and flowers


lmao!!!!
sixxx 7:06 PM - 27 May, 2011
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It's not a coincedence that some of the most respected and established DJs out there are also some of the most humble...


Actually, you're wrong. most of the "respected" and established DJ's are too scared to speak the truth. But, they will runt their mouth to their friends. Trust me. Their circle of "close friends" always knows what's up. What you're seeing is just a show.
DJJorel 7:14 PM - 27 May, 2011
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It's not a coincedence that some of the most respected and established DJs out there are also some of the most humble...


Actually, you're wrong. most of the "respected" and established DJ's are too scared to speak the truth. But, they will runt their mouth to their friends. Trust me. Their circle of "close friends" always knows what's up. What you're seeing is just a show.


Yes...now that I think about it, you are right...maybe I just didn't want to say that....haha....
DJYoshi 7:52 PM - 27 May, 2011
I didn't expect this many responses to my rant. I was just speaking my mind on several posts that I read of people just being jackasses. I'm not saying hide the truth. i'm not saying sugar coat shit... just don't be a di**. That's all. If you don't feel like helping someone...then cool... but don't try to play him/her out for kicks b/c you don't wanna be helpful. I've been shitted on. I've been through hell and back..... banned from certain clubs b/c I didn't get along with the owner, promoter, manager...whatever... I've been in this game rockin clubs since '96....Touring since '98....and for the most part..everyone I've met, had the pleasure to work with...talk to...exchange words with has been cool. I didn't write this rant for me..... I actually just wonder why sometimes.... why be a dick? that's all..... I know why i'm an ass at times... it's mainly b/c i'm annoyed and I don't like repeating myself more than 5 times when someone asks me advice on the same topic, and I give the same answer 5 times....then on the 6th time.. I'll say write it down or some shit.....
yeah it might be funny to see people's crack comments to bring comedy and lighten things up.....
I just wonder where someone gets off talking down and shitting on people... that's it...
People are so quick to d*** ride someone who's famous..... people are quick to bash someone who's not....

I'll be the first to admit that 99% of the DJ's I've come across are probably better than me... I don't scratch much.... I don't juggle..... there's nothing fancy about what I do at a club or an event....
I'm fortunate enough to have great managers, great agents, a great promo team... and industry folks that keep me busy...... Yes I do listen to criticism...who doesn't? it's how you get better..... it's how you evolve.... I just don't like assfaces that's all....people that are jackasses or dicks just b/c.... that was my original meaning that I may not have conveyed properly as I tend to go off on tangents.
sixxx 8:00 PM - 27 May, 2011
But Yoshi, have you stopped to realize that maybe what you consider ""being a dick" is just a perception of how you feel? Sometimes emotion take over logic.
sixxx 8:01 PM - 27 May, 2011
I remember when Evil One got really pissed that I criticized his mix. At no point in my critique was I being a dick. He took it to heart and came at me hard. (no homo). Even, after everyone else on the post saw that my critique was not at all personal.
Tocayo 8:34 PM - 27 May, 2011
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I remember when Evil One got really pissed that I criticized his mix. At no point in my critique was I being a dick. He took it to heart and came at me hard. (no homo). Even, after everyone else on the post saw that my critique was not at all personal.


If you gave construcive criticism and not a "I didn't like it but couldn't back it up with points to make it better approach" (which I don't think you did by looking at your post here).
Then if he want's to get shirty about it, that is his problem. Best to just say..well I have given you my constructive view, how you take it is up to you, you obviously just want to hear what you want to hear.
DJ Half 8:36 PM - 27 May, 2011
Stand by for advice:

Try reading a post with three different levels of emotion. I.e, Hate, Cool & joke. See if all three sound different.
RogerRabbit 9:08 PM - 27 May, 2011
LOL @ the guilty defending themselves...
DJ Val-BKNY11203 10:32 PM - 27 May, 2011
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The learn the game/pay your dues mentality is not progressive... This is the information age - the self help age.. Back in the day, the vinyl era, people didn't have much of the choice to the path to become a dj.. Now.. things have changed..


"This is the information age - the self help age"

This right here is exactly the point. There is so much information out there for people. Yet you have alot of people that don't take any steps to help themselves first. Or just like Yoshi said...you hear the same questions over and over and with the same answer repeated. How many times can people post "which is better QSC K whatever or JBL whatever" and never even take their asses to a store and listen?

You are very right...things have changed. Google is a DJ's best friend. It's not that hard.
Made Men 10:59 PM - 27 May, 2011
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It's been about a year since I've been on this forum. I've seen a lot of people on here that are down to help other DJ's out. What really pisses me off is the bashing that goes on here. The hate, the doubt, the insecurities that are showcased by some people.
I'll say it and then those who hate can come and hate on me.
Seriously, whether it's helping someone with advice on a playlist, how someone should do something business wise, or even...what people charge... you'll see 10 great replies...then someone will come on and drop a negative comment... Derogatory remarks piss me the f*** off. That sh** is just straight disrespectful...
Just b/c YOU may charge someone in a club, doesn't mean that another DJ doesn't command $500+. $500 USED to be the industry standard. It's how a lot of the established DJ's base their pricing.
If someone doesn't know how to scratch or blend, why do you have to bash them with a commend like: "I've heard better." especially when it's someone that's just starting off..... Some people act like they've never been in the position that beginners or others on the forum have been in before. Some people act like they're the know it all...end all..be all...basically the shit.....
And A LOT of people just do nothing but drop negative comments....
Instead of negatives...help turn that sh** into a positive.....
"i like this part, but you can try working on this part"
that's constructive criticism... not "wtf kind of mix is that."

Many people on the forum talk down instead of to people. Why do you feel the need to do that? Is it because you're insecure with your own situation that you need to log onto a global forum..bash someone to better yourself? Is it because you just like to fu** with people? What is it?

So what if someone makes more $ than you? If you're surviving, then you're good.
If you're reading this, you're better off than 90% of the world already
I turned to people like Roli Rho & Vin Rock when I started rockin... I asked questions and bugged the sh** out of Q-Bert, Roc Raida, etc... and I never saw them treat anyone poorly. Sh** I met Q 3 times, and when I told him I was in Cali rockin a weekend of events, he invited me to his house for a scratch session.... These days, you rarely see that type of love. This game USED to be different... DJ's USED To respect the game, the hustle, the newbies, the craft. Now it just seems that people just want to put others down to move themselves up in stature...

Yes there's competition out there, but just b/c someone's a DJ, doesn't mean that you have to hate on them. I grew up with the thought that if you help others, you'll be helped in return.
The people that hit me for cruise bookings, I've already forwarded off your info. I've put down people with fashion bookings for NY Fashion Week.....and guess what? they've returned the favor getting me 2 or 3 other bookings with promoters and venues I previously didn't have contacts/relations with... I know that tells me something... people are still grateful. DJ's out there can still show love to each other....even if we're all in the same market.. i'll hook them up and they'll take care of me.
That's my little rant for the day... just had to say it.


Well said
DJ Remy USA 10:59 PM - 27 May, 2011
I skipped reading but read the first post. I think a lot of people hate is because there ate a lot of over night DJs who are watering down the game. I gave nothing against newbies I used to be one myself with still a long way to go. Since I have started DJing six yrs ago I have not had single DJ help me at all. I have helped plenty but I ve always got shitted on as far as being helped and guided. It wasn't until I discovered SSL that I got better at by reading threads and watching YouTube videos. I try to make a diff by helping and supporting but in at the end of my rope wit the new DJs all they do is take away from the game with there 50 dollar rates and drink tabs with shitty mixing and terrible programing. Thats not the worst part the worst is that it's becoming the norm in some places. In any event I'm on your side Yoshi but there are certain factors that can make people bitter. FYI I'm not bitter
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:04 AM - 28 May, 2011
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smart ass remarks will always be there...



Who cares? Does it really ruin your day to read them? And people who come to the internet expecting stuffed animals and flowers, what year are they living in? "Oh they're just looking for a response, turn your head children and look away" and what are you looking for when you post, no response? You're taking this shit too seriously man.

Any time I let screennaame123 ruin my day because he said something not nice to me is the day I hang up my modem.





^ THIS!! What I don't get is what is up with the whole "ignore the smart ass remarks and move on" dude you are on an internet forum for people who get paid to play music they enjoy and make people dance and have a good time...how on earth are you going to do this is you have no idea how to enjoy life yourself. When you see a smart ass remark how about instead of getting offended and asshurt and trying to ignore it try...LAUGHING at it. 99% of the smart ass remarks on here ARE NOT meant to be malicious their meant to make you crack a smile, and most of those are great inside jokes. Some of the biggest laughs ive had on this forum have been at my expense, ive even set myself up to be publicly clowned in the name of a laugh and i appreciate all of it because it takes creativity and inteligence to make it happen (thats what all you autosync cats are about right lol)


I will NEVER EVER understand the mentality of people who take life so seriously that they cant just have a good laugh at their selves. Guys your DJS I dont care how passionate you are about it IT AINT THAT DAMN SERIOUS, we arent saving lives of curing cancer, or leading the technical revolution that will mold the world to come, we are there so people can enjoy themselves so take a page from their book crack a smile and have a laugh once in a while.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:06 AM - 28 May, 2011
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The learn the game/pay your dues mentality is not progressive... This is the information age - the self help age.. Back in the day, the vinyl era, people didn't have much of the choice to the path to become a dj.. Now.. things have changed..


"This is the information age - the self help age"

This right here is exactly the point. There is so much information out there for people. Yet you have alot of people that don't take any steps to help themselves first. Or just like Yoshi said...you hear the same questions over and over and with the same answer repeated. How many times can people post "which is better QSC K whatever or JBL whatever" and never even take their asses to a store and listen?

You are very right...things have changed. Google is a DJ's best friend. It's not that hard.


THIS!! self help does not mean immediately ask a question and expect others to look up the answers for you.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:08 AM - 28 May, 2011
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Wrong!

Nothing wrong with asking opening a new thread about cans, speaker or mixer.. New equipment comes out all the time and peoples perspectives/opinion sometimes evolve with time. Equipment perceived to be great a month ago, may or may not receive the same review from the original reviewer in the future...


WRONG!! Sure if you do a SEARCH and find that the last post on the speaker thread was from 4 years ago then by all means create a new thread for new info, but typically it isnt like that, there will be 3 threads in the top 5 most recent threads all heavily debating the latest gear and in between those 3 threads full of info pops up a new ...Which speaker is the best thread.
Logisticalstyles 12:19 AM - 28 May, 2011
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The learn the game/pay your dues mentality is not progressive... This is the information age - the self help age.. Back in the day, the vinyl era, people didn't have much of the choice to the path to become a dj.. Now.. things have changed..


"This is the information age - the self help age"

This right here is exactly the point. There is so much information out there for people. Yet you have alot of people that don't take any steps to help themselves first. Or just like Yoshi said...you hear the same questions over and over and with the same answer repeated. How many times can people post "which is better QSC K whatever or JBL whatever" and never even take their asses to a store and listen?

You are very right...things have changed. Google is a DJ's best friend. It's not that hard.

For real. Today's DJs have so much info at their finger tips, yet their first reflex is is to ask "how do I ..." Google that shit!

Instead of the learn the game/pay your dues mentality, we now have the fuck the game screw the rules mentality and they can't even figure out the difference between an RCA cable and an XLR cable.
Free Man 12:55 AM - 28 May, 2011
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and they can't even figure out the difference between an RCA cable and an XLR cable.


and think that Speakon is what it is called when you talk over music...
Tocayo 12:56 AM - 28 May, 2011
Lovin this thread :)

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THIS!! What I don't get is what is up with the whole "ignore the smart ass remarks and move on" dude you are on an internet forum for people who get paid to play music they enjoy and make people dance and have a good time...how on earth are you going to do this is you have no idea how to enjoy life yourself. When you see a smart ass remark how about instead of getting offended and asshurt and trying to ignore it try...LAUGHING at it. 99% of the smart ass remarks on here ARE NOT meant to be malicious their meant to make you crack a smile, and most of those are great inside jokes. Some of the biggest laughs ive had on this forum have been at my expense, ive even set myself up to be publicly clowned in the name of a laugh and i appreciate all of it because it takes creativity and inteligence to make it happen (thats what all you autosync cats are about right lol)


I will NEVER EVER understand the mentality of people who take life so seriously that they cant just have a good laugh at their selves. Guys your DJS I dont care how passionate you are about it IT AINT THAT DAMN SERIOUS, we arent saving lives of curing cancer, or leading the technical revolution that will mold the world to come, we are there so people can enjoy themselves so take a page from their book crack a smile and have a laugh once in a while.


I think you've missed the point somewhere my friend, I don't think the original poster here or anyone else was meaning not being able to have a laugh, more about laughing at other peoples expense. If people can't help the person asking the question then why try and make them look stupid ? just tell them to try the search button as their question has been covered before ;)

Shooting them whenever they appear won't do anything cause another will pop up and your head just might explode, it's just how you deal with them.

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Try just not reading the posts that get to you, or don't feel compelled to replying.

Maybe some of them are not that stupid, just looking to push peoples buttons :)
the_black_one 1:55 AM - 28 May, 2011
till i die!!!!!
the_black_one 1:55 AM - 28 May, 2011
till i die !!!!!!! www.comedycentral.com
Made Men 7:17 AM - 28 May, 2011
I agree with Tacoya and the original poster. There is a difference in looking for the "bright" side on some post and accepting people disrespecting each other. That is not funny and I for one will not be one to excuse it and try to find the funny side. When we all agree to do that then we all agree to disrespect one another and to sit back when the weakest have it happen to them.

DJ M Bezzle, yes we just may be saving lives and yes we are most dealing with some of the cutting edge technology. Music is the expression of our truest self so it is very serious although it does not mean that we have to stress about it. I for one take my craft very seriously and have had the feedback that " a dj saved my life" sorry for the pun.
sixxx 9:58 AM - 28 May, 2011
I only help those who help themselves first.
howcome 4:04 PM - 28 May, 2011
So a noob should google shit over using the forums of the software he bought. They might be under the impression, mistakenly it seems, that a forum dedicated to djing might be a good place to ask questions. A forum with a large group of very talented djs seems a good place to help themselves. This is the internet age that is how people help themselves. Things have changed since the 80's and 90's when we all started, this is how it's done now.
the_black_one 4:20 PM - 28 May, 2011
I'm not stuck in the past. I just feel like one has to do things themselves so learning takes place. Folks try and skip essential steps by coming in here and asking for EVERYTHING ! How can you better yourself if you don't make your own mistakes ?
Logisticalstyles 6:19 PM - 28 May, 2011
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So a noob should google shit over using the forums of the software he bought.

1st they should read the manual.
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:32 PM - 28 May, 2011
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please explain that to the 15 white girls who spent more than half of last night begging for me to play the stanky leg, racks, and anything by lil wayne

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If people can't help the person asking the question then why try and make them look stupid ? just tell them to try the search button as their question has been covered before ;)


most people who are told to use the search button get offended and feel your trying to make them look stupid


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There is a difference in looking for the "bright" side on some post and accepting people disrespecting each other. That is not funny and I for one will not be one to excuse it and try to find the funny side. When we all agree to do that then we all agree to disrespect one another and to sit back when the weakest have it happen to them.


What is and isnt funney is completley subjective, whats funney to you may not be to someone else and visa versa


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So a noob should google shit over using the forums of the software he bought.

1st they should read the manual.


And after that there is an official HELP SECTION where they can get all the help they want from official serato employees on the software they bought. Sorry but just because you paid for serato dosent mean that other DJs who are not employees of serato are obliged to answer your questions about how to record a mix or what their playlist is.


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This is the internet age that is how people help themselves. Things have changed since the 80's and 90's when we all started, this is how it's done now.


You are correct things have changed since the 80s, in the 80s you had to talk to people you knew, also you had to be somewhat curtious because the person was standing right there. In the day of the internet you can speak what you really feel because you are anonomous, look at any comment section in youtube or yahoo news....any other forum for that matter, hate to break it to you but being an asshole on the internet is "how its done now"

Theres also one key thing that I think alot of you are missing, if a serious question is asked and all the smart ass remarks arent made that thread just sinks into obscurity, smart ass remarks keep it at the top where it can more likley be answered. Also several people have commented about the talented DJs who hang out here......do you think there would be alot of talented DJs hanging out here if all it was was a serious tech Q&A forum where everyone was nice, everything was taken seriously and nothing out of the ordinary ever happened?? Alot of these talented guys hang out here because its entertaining to watch the antics here, if you dont believe me log in on a day theres drama happening and see who all posts and log in on a day everything rainbows and sunshine and see who all posts you'll notice a HUUGE difference. Theres a reason this forum is what it is compared to other forums that censor its users.
Tocayo 6:57 PM - 28 May, 2011
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If people can't help the person asking the question then why try and make them look stupid ? just tell them to try the search button as their question has been covered before ;)
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most people who are told to use the search button get offended and feel your trying to make them look stupid


Now that could well be how the reply is made.


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That is certainly one way of putting it but one I personaly would not agree with lol

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Also several people have commented about the talented DJs who hang out here......do you think there would be alot of talented DJs hanging out here if all it was was a serious tech Q&A forum where everyone was nice, everything was taken seriously and nothing out of the ordinary ever happened??


A lot of people are here for "serious tech help" I'm sure but there will be some who think it's just a playground for them.
There is no harm having a laugh but the original post was made with regards to more "belittling people" and having a laugh at "their" expense for asking a question, if it's one of your mates or someone you know, then fair enough but it's not a good welcoming response to someone new.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:05 PM - 28 May, 2011
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There is no harm having a laugh but the original post was made with regards to more "belittling people" and having a laugh at "their" expense for asking a question, if it's one of your mates or someone you know, then fair enough but it's not a good welcoming response to someone new.


I think its perfect for someone new, when i see someone new the first thing i do is give em a tap on the chin, then you get to see who that person REALLY is, do they laugh with the joke, do they get angry, do they start listing off their resumes and accomplishments. All these reactions let you know what that person is really like and what they think of themselves, you, and the world. The 1st interaction i EVER had with the original poster was making fun of him and calling him out on something he wrote...the way he handled the situation impressed me and let me know that he is the truth and hes someone whos advice i should never 2nd guess because he knows his shit and hes a mature down to earth dude. So much so that i listened to his mix....HATED IT..then tried practiced and imitated it just to have the mix style in my arsenal because i was 100% different than mine and obviously its working for him even know i could barley listen to it because the style got on my nerves lol.

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A lot of people are here for "serious tech help" I'm sure but there will be some who think it's just a playground for them.


If someone needs serious help they need need to go to the help section...dj discussion and off topic ARE playgrounds, they are the record shops of 2011 where you can go shoot the shit with other people who get it.
Tocayo 7:08 PM - 28 May, 2011
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So a noob should google shit over using the forums of the software he bought.

1st they should read the manual.


What are they ? :)
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:12 PM - 28 May, 2011
I think the worst thing that ever happened to society was when PC took over and made it wrong to look down or belittle someone. I think that that has alot to do with making a person strong. If i posted a shitty mix on my 2nd day as a dj and everyone told me it was great i would never try to get better, thats why we have so many problems today, wanna know why we have a obesity epademic, its because you cant call a fat fuck fat anymore, we have a TON of dumb asses who will never try to learn anything because everyone tells them its OK to be dumb and you get bitched at for calling them dumb asses. Last night the last 3 girls we had in the club were HUUUGEEE and they were hanging around and kept asking if i was single so i went to the bar and said damn i wish these fat bitches would leave so i can go home and of course a girl sitting at the bar turns around and bitches at me because that was her sister.....look dont bitch at me for calling her fat she IS fat how about you stop standing up for her and snatch the tripple whopper out of her fat ass hand and put her on a treadmill for 30 minutes or so, people need to stop standing up for the problem and get behind the solutions
O.B.1 7:15 PM - 28 May, 2011
ahaha preach brotha!
Tocayo 7:19 PM - 28 May, 2011
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There is no harm having a laugh but the original post was made with regards to more "belittling people" and having a laugh at "their" expense for asking a question, if it's one of your mates or someone you know, then fair enough but it's not a good welcoming response to someone new.
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I think its perfect for someone new, when i see someone new the first thing i do is give em a tap on the chin, then you get to see who that person REALLY is, do they laugh with the joke, do they get angry, do they start listing off their resumes and accomplishments. All these reactions let you know what that person is really like and what they think of themselves, you, and the world. The 1st interaction i EVER had with the original poster was making fun of him and calling him out on something he wrote...the way he handled the situation impressed me and let me know that he is the truth and hes someone whos advice i should never 2nd guess because he knows his shit and hes a mature down to earth dude. So much so that i listened to his mix....HATED IT..then tried practiced and imitated it just to have the mix style in my arsenal because i was 100% different than mine and obviously its working for him even know i could barley listen to it because the style got on my nerves lol.


That is why I posted here cause he sounded ok, I guess I'm just for the underdog :) ying and yang and all that :D


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A lot of people are here for "serious tech help" I'm sure but there will be some who think it's just a playground for them.
If someone needs serious help they need need to go to the help section...dj discussion and off topic ARE playgrounds, they are the record shops of 2011 where you can go shoot the shit with other people who get it.


I think some do get it it, after all you don't want the decks to stop turning, I guess it's how fast do you want them to go.
Tocayo 7:32 PM - 28 May, 2011
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I think the worst thing that ever happened to society was when PC took over and made it wrong to look down or belittle someone. I think that that has alot to do with making a person strong. If i posted a shitty mix on my 2nd day as a dj and everyone told me it was great i would never try to get better, thats why we have so many problems today, wanna know why we have a obesity epademic, its because you cant call a fat fuck fat anymore, we have a TON of dumb asses who will never try to learn anything because everyone tells them its OK to be dumb and you get bitched at for calling them dumb asses. Last night the last 3 girls we had in the club were HUUUGEEE and they were hanging around and kept asking if i was single so i went to the bar and said damn i wish these fat bitches would leave so i can go home and of course a girl sitting at the bar turns around and bitches at me because that was her sister.....look dont bitch at me for calling her fat she IS fat how about you stop standing up for her and snatch the tripple whopper out of her fat ass hand and put her on a treadmill for 30 minutes or so, people need to stop standing up for the problem and get behind the solutions


Oh F**k, Not the most subtle i've heard lol, keep them on their toes I say.
DJJorel 9:34 PM - 28 May, 2011
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So a noob should google shit over using the forums of the software he bought.

1st they should read the manual.


Then they should use something that a lot of people seem to not want to utilize....the Forum Search....
dj poisonous handz 9:46 PM - 28 May, 2011
welcome to nj.where djs shit on each other just to be on as many flyers as they can while trying to look hard in a lady gaga pose!
Made Men 11:18 PM - 28 May, 2011
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please explain that to the 15 white girls who spent more than half of last night begging for me to play the stanky leg, racks, and anything by lil wayne

@Dj-M.Bezzle- lol, Unfortunalty that IS the truest expression of who they are at this point in their life. I can usually tell a bit about a person based on their request and HOW they make it.

I have to disagree with the fact that because some people use the internet to say things they would NEVER say to the person's face we should all go along with it. At the end of the day it's still a reflection of who the individual is. I don't see anything with giving someone a hard time in clearly helping them. However not trying to help and just trying to make someone feel like crap about themselves is another matter. The great thing about this is that people will still do what they wish both ways. It's be up to the new person to catch on and understand who can be a resource and who needs a pic me up for the day.
DJMark 11:51 PM - 28 May, 2011
One thing that *might* help is if the "Search" feature here were a bit more refined. Would be nice, for example, to be able to search only within specific forums.

But I bet that would only cut down on a small percentage of the "drive-bys" who post questions without bothering to notice that there's several other similar posts on the current page.

As far as other people being rude for no apparent reason? I tend to ignore it. One, because I really don't care. Two, because anyone can have a bad day or moment, and sometimes that's all "rude posts" amount to. Three because if someone really is a rude jerk, I'd just as soon not have that hidden behind some mask of artificial "politeness" (or enforced "forum etiquette").

And sometimes the written word sounds ruder or more abrupt than the same word would if spoken.
philldafunk 3:00 AM - 29 May, 2011
Well said, I know I always try and help people out on the forum whenever I can... I really don't understand why some people are so damn salty on here...
Discobee 8:51 AM - 29 May, 2011
Momma always said: "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it."

Live Karma everyone. The Golden Rule still works.

Enjoy your day :)
FunkyRob 9:08 AM - 29 May, 2011
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So a noob should google shit over using the forums of the software he bought.

1st they should read the manual.


I bought Serato in 2006, I still haven't read the manual.
Made Men 2:49 PM - 29 May, 2011
lol@FunkyRob
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:01 PM - 29 May, 2011
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please explain that to the 15 white girls who spent more than half of last night begging for me to play the stanky leg, racks, and anything by lil wayne

@Dj-M.Bezzle- lol, Unfortunalty that IS the truest expression of who they are at this point in their life. I can usually tell a bit about a person based on their request and HOW they make it.

I have to disagree with the fact that because some people use the internet to say things they would NEVER say to the person's face we should all go along with it. At the end of the day it's still a reflection of who the individual is. I don't see anything with giving someone a hard time in clearly helping them. However not trying to help and just trying to make someone feel like crap about themselves is another matter. The great thing about this is that people will still do what they wish both ways. It's be up to the new person to catch on and understand who can be a resource and who needs a pic me up for the day.


once again if someone you dont know and will never meet makes you feel like crap about yourself by typing some nonsense on a website YOU NEED TO REEVALUATE YOURSELF, personally im not gonna walk on my tippy toes censoring what i want to say because you have self esteem issues and may get offended.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:01 PM - 29 May, 2011
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So a noob should google shit over using the forums of the software he bought.

1st they should read the manual.


I bought Serato in 2006, I still haven't read the manual.


Mines in the bathroom on the toilet...makes for great reading material when you ....need to pass time
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:02 PM - 29 May, 2011
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Momma always said: "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it."

Live Karma everyone. The Golden Rule still works.

Enjoy your day :)


very true....but most of the things that people are complaining about are meant to make the majority happy...i can only hope others will go so far to bring a smile to my face
dj_smalls 8:36 PM - 29 May, 2011
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Mines in the bathroom on the toilet...makes for great reading material when you ....need to pass time

hahaa...mine is too!!!!!
Papa Midnight 9:50 PM - 29 May, 2011
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int.na.tl
DJ Half 12:37 AM - 30 May, 2011
we need Oprah back!
sixxx 5:54 AM - 30 May, 2011
Karma is for suckers.
DJYoshi 1:27 PM - 31 May, 2011
Sixxx, and EVERYONE, i'm not saying that people shouldn't help themselves. People really aren't getting what I'm talking about. And yes, a dick or attitude is perception. listen... I don't really sweat stupid shit. I don't really sweat when a DJ undercuts me..... I don't really sweat the fact that there are $150 DJ's watering the game down..b/c it's cyclical. Back in '96 when I first started doing clubs... I was only making $200 a night....and that's during the club boom days when cats were pulling in serious $....
So i know I watered the game down when I broke in..b/c who's gonna book a new DJ that has a new following the $ that an established DJ with a following gets? they'd be stupid business people.
I see things from business to personal to hustle...... I'm not an angry person. I'm not looking for answers for myself. I'm just saying... there are some assfaces out there that all they do on forums such as this is snipe people with their i'm better than you...you suck posts...and although you say perception.. when you're an asshole on a forum..it's pretty evident...
I'm not saying di** ride.. I'm not saying sugar coat... I'm saying instead of talking down...talk to someone... people these days with this internet shit don't know how to talk to people.....
and now i'll hop on my treadmill so Bezz doesn't make fun of me when I fly down to his club next month.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:44 PM - 31 May, 2011
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ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free Man 12:49 PM - 4 June, 2011
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lady gaga pose!


??????what's a lady gaga pose??????
(kind of not sure if i really want to know)
Made Men 2:38 PM - 4 June, 2011
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Sixxx, and EVERYONE, i'm not saying that people shouldn't help themselves. People really aren't getting what I'm talking about. And yes, a dick or attitude is perception. listen... I don't really sweat stupid shit. I don't really sweat when a DJ undercuts me..... I don't really sweat the fact that there are $150 DJ's watering the game down..b/c it's cyclical. Back in '96 when I first started doing clubs... I was only making $200 a night....and that's during the club boom days when cats were pulling in serious $....
So i know I watered the game down when I broke in..b/c who's gonna book a new DJ that has a new following the $ that an established DJ with a following gets? they'd be stupid business people.
I see things from business to personal to hustle...... I'm not an angry person. I'm not looking for answers for myself. I'm just saying... there are some assfaces out there that all they do on forums such as this is snipe people with their i'm better than you...you suck posts...and although you say perception.. when you're an asshole on a forum..it's pretty evident...
I'm not saying di** ride.. I'm not saying sugar coat... I'm saying instead of talking down...talk to someone... people these days with this internet shit don't know how to talk to people.....
and now i'll hop on my treadmill so Bezz doesn't make fun of me when I fly down to his club next month.



+1
djlj 2:57 PM - 4 June, 2011
I'm pleased to have happened upon this thread.

I hadn't been active on the Serato board for about six months before I logged on a week ago. I've encountered a ridiculous amount of flame wars and troll threads. Part of my reason for choosing SSL over Traktor, initially, was the experience I had on the Serato forums before I made my purchase decision.

I would be disappointed if the direction the forums go is indicated by the forum posts I've noticed recently.
Made Men 3:04 PM - 4 June, 2011
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I'm pleased to have happened upon this thread.

I hadn't been active on the Serato board for about six months before I logged on a week ago. I've encountered a ridiculous amount of flame wars and troll threads. Part of my reason for choosing SSL over Traktor, initially, was the experience I had on the Serato forums before I made my purchase decision.

I would be disappointed if the direction the forums go is indicated by the forum posts I've noticed recently.


I feel you on that one. I've actually been on other forums that are more resourceful because of that. Other forums seem to already be aware of the behavior over here though.
DJ Remy USA 3:50 PM - 4 June, 2011
I like the forum great waste of time and always funny, you read that make bezzle's a star thread people were taking it so seriously.....it was funny as hell but the forum is helpful if you use the help section this is just discussion in the "DJ Discussion" section.
Made Men 5:07 PM - 4 June, 2011
The behavior mentioned in this thread is not kept only in the general discussion thread. It happens in almost every single thread in every single section. Not amusing.
Maboza Ritchie 6:23 PM - 4 June, 2011
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The behavior mentioned in this thread is not kept only in the general discussion thread. It happens in almost every single thread in every single section. Not amusing.

I would agree with this as I have not long joined myself (having a friend recommend it to me) for any help I might need and just keep up to date generally on what is happening with the products.

I have seen a few and it does appear to be worse here than any other forum I have been to but hey, what can you do..the cliques are everywhere.
O.B.1 7:14 PM - 4 June, 2011
a few of you sound like you may have got some sand in your vagina...
Free Man 7:22 PM - 4 June, 2011
lol
dj_soo 7:45 PM - 4 June, 2011
I think the kind of behavior is evident in any log standing, loosely moderated forum. The regulars have nothing better to do but to complain and the newbs repeat the same questions without searching. And often, snide remarks by forum vets are done more core the benefit of amusing other forums vets more than pure malicious intent...

That said not every discussion deserves to get turned into a flame war although I often see the same topics causing the same issues.

Personally, I often only react negatively to specific topics. Mainly of the "I just accepted a gig and have no idea how to play this music. Please tell me what to play" variety. I put that up there with requests for illegal download sources personally.
the_black_one 7:49 PM - 4 June, 2011
it's my job or your job to decide if something is out of line in here. Thats the mods job. If you dont like it in here then go change your tampon and move along!
the_black_one 7:49 PM - 4 June, 2011
(it's NOT)
O.B.1 7:51 PM - 4 June, 2011
and the mod squad is off duty until monday lol...
the_black_one 8:09 PM - 4 June, 2011
so why is it that fore once in life we find true freedom !!!! and you bloody tampons wanna cry about it?
DJ Val-BKNY11203 8:11 PM - 4 June, 2011
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a few of you sound like you may have got some sand in your vagina...


LMAO! +1

I can't understand how some people are just so sensitive over some friggin words on a message board. If the remarks are not addressed to you...keep reading & keep it moving.
DJ Remy USA 10:45 PM - 4 June, 2011
Sand in your vagina.....lol you guys are awesome. To be honest I don't have any friends in real life cause all of my best buds are right here on the forum.
Maboza Ritchie 12:36 AM - 5 June, 2011
Say it and they will come...right on cue lol like puppets on a string who just can't help themselves :D
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Sand in your vagina.....lol you guys are awesome. To be honest I don't have any friends in real life cause all of my best buds are right here on the forum.

You don't need to remind us we all know and have done for years lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:42 PM - 5 June, 2011
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a few of you sound like you may have got some sand in your vagina...



for further info please refer to

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The behavior mentioned in this thread is not kept only in the general discussion thread. It happens in almost every single thread in every single section. Not amusing.


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I'm pleased to have happened upon this thread.

I hadn't been active on the Serato board for about six months before I logged on a week ago. I've encountered a ridiculous amount of flame wars and troll threads. Part of my reason for choosing SSL over Traktor, initially, was the experience I had on the Serato forums before I made my purchase decision.

I would be disappointed if the direction the forums go is indicated by the forum posts I've noticed recently.


I feel you on that one. I've actually been on other forums that are more resourceful because of that. Other forums seem to already be aware of the behavior over here though.



See its these attitudes i will never be able to comprehend, basically this translates into "I logged into this forum and saw people cracking jokes and having fun, im really not into fun, these people who arent paid to be here need to stop having fun and jump to my needs when i log in to learn"

Sorry if you want a serious learning experience go take a music class at your local community college and mumble under your breathe angrily when someone has fun in there.

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a few of you sound like you may have got some sand in your vagina...


LMAO! +1

I can't understand how some people are just so sensitive over some friggin words on a message board. If the remarks are not addressed to you...keep reading & keep it moving.


+1000 ^ THIS, what i find funny is that most peoples opinion on what a "flame war" is is just someone not agreeing with them, oddly enough on top of that half of THAT time it comes from someone not being able to get the answer they asked for.

typical convo

How can I use SL records to control traktor

You cant use SL records to control traktor

WHY THE HELL NOT WHY ISNT LIFE FAIR!!!!

Dude because they are different companys competing

Competing?? What the hell do you have against people who use traktor..IM A REAL DJ TOO, I PAID MONEY FOR TRAKTOR SO SL SHOULD WORK WITH IT

Thats fine use what you want, just saying it wont work

TRAKTOR IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SERATO SERATO SUCKS NOW HELP ME DAMN IT

your an idiot, its not gonna work and it never will

IM BEING FLAMED FOR MY CONVICTIONS I HATE THIS FORUM!!!!
Maboza Ritchie 2:49 PM - 5 June, 2011
And the hits just keep on coming...

" I see stupid people...
...they're everywhere...
they walk around like everyone else...
they don't even know that they're dumb."
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:54 PM - 5 June, 2011
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And the hits just keep on coming...



yes and your accounting for the majority of them lol, gotta love the irony of calling someone out for posting and adding their opinion to the convo......by posting and adding your opinion to the convo
Maboza Ritchie 2:57 PM - 5 June, 2011
And so on and so on and so on...
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:58 PM - 5 June, 2011
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And so on and so on and so on...

yup
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:59 PM - 5 June, 2011
lets see which one of us has more time to waste on this, ladies and gentlemen start placing your wagers
Maboza Ritchie 4:32 PM - 5 June, 2011
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lets see which one of us has more time to waste on this, ladies and gentlemen start placing your wagers


DJ Shezzle to the Nezzle, based on your track record of posts on these boards, you're the obvious winner.
I have some free time now and again which I will use to come here (when "I" feel like it), not when you want me to.

I will make you my pet..you just don't know it yet lol.
Made Men 5:45 PM - 5 June, 2011
Why does that cat make assumptions out of the air a.d pretend they are facts? Yes, bezzle is the person with nothing going in and all the free time.

-1
djlj 11:45 PM - 5 June, 2011
Don't feed the trolls, gang.

It would be unfortunate if the general vibe of this forum, as a whole, were to regress to a bastion of trolls and flame war junkies. I'm sure another DJ community resource could and would come forward, but in the meantime the loss of the Serato forums would be sorely felt.

I wish something could be done. I don't envy the mods on this board, as they have to walk a fine line between over-censoring those people who choose to bring the forum down a few notches (but may be customers) and letting things run too free and ending up with a resource that is of reduced utility to the community.
Made Men 12:08 AM - 6 June, 2011
tru @ DJlj
DJ TOGTFO 12:36 AM - 6 June, 2011
Only the over-opinionated, new-jacks bug the fuck out of me. Givin career advice when the only thing on your resume is a birthday party in your mom's basement or lunch at high school. GTFOH.
DJ TOGTFO 12:37 AM - 6 June, 2011
and my cyber personality is to be a dick to everyone online, since I have to fake being nice in real life.
DJ TOGTFO 12:39 AM - 6 June, 2011
and at DJ Yoshi, you have a major but easily fixable flaw in your golf swing. PM and I'll tell you
Maboza Ritchie 12:53 AM - 6 June, 2011
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Givin career advice when the only thing on your resume is a birthday party in your mom's basement or lunch at high school. GTFOH.


Now that's how you rock a party! lol

www.youtube.com

But is her name really Tuesday ?
DJ TOGTFO 1:11 AM - 6 June, 2011
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www.youtube.com

But is her name really Tuesday ?


dude, lol... too easy. haha
the_black_one 2:33 AM - 6 June, 2011
What happened with ms bezzle. She stoped posting. Too busy dancing on the grass I guess
O.B.1 5:25 AM - 6 June, 2011
she's only seventeen!? (no winger)
the_black_one 5:27 AM - 6 June, 2011
wow... 17.... old enough to bleed, old enough to breed i guess.
O.B.1 5:30 AM - 6 June, 2011
if there's no grass on the field, play in the mud!
DJ TOGTFO 6:35 AM - 6 June, 2011
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she's only seventeen!? (no winger)



Lmao
jwagner 7:07 AM - 6 June, 2011
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www.youtube.com

But is her name really Tuesday ?

so confused right now
jwagner 7:09 AM - 6 June, 2011
not confused about the joke...just confused about everything in that video
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:19 PM - 6 June, 2011
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www.youtube.com

But is her name really Tuesday ?


dude, lol... too easy. haha



ya she is LOL
slimmjimm 2:27 PM - 6 June, 2011
I'm really confused, is that THE Ms Bezzle? 17? Jesus how the fuck old are you Bezzle? Why the fuck is she on some dude named Adams youtube channel? Is he the promoter?

IMO, this thread just got awesomer. I <3 u Serato forums.
MsBezzle 2:38 PM - 6 June, 2011
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IMO, this thread just got awesomer. I <3 u Serato forums.


yup you gotta love this forum ;)
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:41 PM - 6 June, 2011
never a dull moment ;)
DJYoshi 6:17 PM - 6 June, 2011
I don't believe Ms. Bezzle exists...pics or she's fake!
Maboza Ritchie 6:34 PM - 6 June, 2011
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I'm really confused, is that THE Ms Bezzle? 17? Jesus how the fuck old are you Bezzle? Why the fuck is she on some dude named Adams youtube channel? Is he the promoter?

IMO, this thread just got awesomer. I <3 u Serato forums.


There is a name for thet...

Stay tuned kids lol
Maboza Ritchie 6:35 PM - 6 June, 2011
My bad...that :)
DJ TOGTFO 6:42 PM - 6 June, 2011
is Adam the janitor whose knob she was bobbin on while you two were together?
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:58 PM - 6 June, 2011
lol the irony of this thread is nothing less than excelence
Maboza Ritchie 7:02 PM - 6 June, 2011
The best is yet to come lol
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is Adam the janitor whose knob she was bobbin on while you two were together?

LMAO!
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:07 PM - 6 June, 2011
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The best is yet to come lol
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is Adam the janitor whose knob she was bobbin on while you two were together?

LMAO!



your obviously new to the forum
Maboza Ritchie 7:45 PM - 6 June, 2011
I know what is happening but it's nice to know you're that "paranoid"! (comes with the terrotory... eh).

Maybe you should change your name to "DJ Kiddie Fiddler" lol

And get back to school and do something about that grammar! haha
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:46 PM - 6 June, 2011
yup def new lol enjoy your stay sir
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:49 PM - 6 June, 2011
quick google search of Maboza Ritchie lets me know your a professioanl at this, ill just go ahead and get out of your way, you gotta let the professionals work
sixxx 8:53 PM - 6 June, 2011
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Only the over-opinionated, new-jacks bug the fuck out of me. Givin career advice when the only thing on your resume is a birthday party in your mom's basement or lunch at high school. GTFOH.


What he said. lol
Maboza Ritchie 9:21 PM - 6 June, 2011
DJ sixx - A genius who..

1. He either has not had a womans company in a while
and spends what spare time he has (from here) keeping his right hand company, which has led him
to develop a tremor causing him to hit the "x" key a second time, or..

2 He has added another "x" to make himself look "clever". He also designed
a number "6" with headphones on it and thinks (to himself) that he's the next Herb Lublain.
Maboza Ritchie 9:23 PM - 6 June, 2011
WOW! twice I should say, trying to be uber creative lol
O.B.1 9:51 PM - 6 June, 2011
^^^ it's like triple xxx - (get it?)
-like the movies I've starred in with your mom :)
DJ TOGTFO 10:25 PM - 6 June, 2011
lol, damn Maboza is on a roll....
sixxx 10:26 PM - 6 June, 2011
lol
sixxx 10:27 PM - 6 June, 2011
Btw, It's Sixxx <--- 3 x's....
DJ Remy USA 10:29 PM - 6 June, 2011
What happened here I need quick recap
howcome 10:30 PM - 6 June, 2011
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What happened here I need quick recap



Google that shit noob.
DJ TOGTFO 10:31 PM - 6 June, 2011
@remy

1. Pretty good post by Yoshi

2. Bezzle jumps in

3. Thread goes to shit.
Maboza Ritchie 12:30 AM - 7 June, 2011
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^^^ it's like triple xxx - (get it?)
-like the movies I've starred in with your mom :)

You don't need to remind me..I still have the tapes :)

O.B.1 - Another one who couldn't think up an original name, so he stole his and put a twist on it
by just making it "SIMPLE" like himself, 2 letters and a number(very clever lol).
This is the kind of guy who has his name and address on his keyring, not incase he loses them
but incase he forgets his name and where he lives.
Maboza Ritchie 12:32 AM - 7 June, 2011
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Btw, It's Sixxx <--- 3 x's....

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WOW! twice I should say, trying to be uber creative lol


Stay focused lol
Maboza Ritchie 12:34 AM - 7 June, 2011
I''ll try and simplify it for you, "simpleton". twice (after the first x).
O.B.1 4:08 AM - 7 June, 2011
Alright guys, i guess we've hazed the new dude enough... i say we give him a pass, and maboza you should try to get along with us, we're not all bad - you gotta learn when to take your lumps, it's just the internet...
the_black_one 7:10 AM - 7 June, 2011
So bezzle is or is not with ms bezzle?
Maboza Ritchie 8:58 AM - 7 June, 2011
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Alright guys, i guess we've hazed the new dude enough... i say we give him a pass, and maboza you should try to get along with us, we're not all bad - you gotta learn when to take your lumps, it's just the internet...


It's all good in tha hood. I can take it (not from the rear).
DJ Remy USA 11:23 AM - 7 June, 2011
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So bezzle is or is not with ms bezzle?


The same question I want answered
slimmjimm 11:46 AM - 7 June, 2011
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So bezzle is or is not with ms bezzle?


The same question I want answered


Only reason the be in this thread now, IMO. Mods, can we get a title change?
Dreamtank 4:46 PM - 7 June, 2011
excellent post Yoshi.. more people need to speak up like this.

People need to remember DJ's need to stick together.. at least the proper minded ones do... there are too many haters in the CROWD nevermind having to deal with other *DJ* haters..
Made Men 5:18 PM - 7 June, 2011
+1
sixxx 6:42 PM - 7 June, 2011
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I''ll try and simplify it for you, "simpleton". twice (after the first x).


Well, twice is twice no matter how you try to hide it. So, yeah. Admit you messed up.

lmao
Maboza Ritchie 6:56 PM - 7 June, 2011
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(after the first x).


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Admit you messed up.

lmao


To be honest, I was more concerened that you may have thought I was giving you a kiss, cause I know you would have liked that ;)
Maboza Ritchie 6:57 PM - 7 June, 2011
concerned lol
sixxx 7:22 PM - 7 June, 2011
lol
DJ TOGTFO 7:56 PM - 7 June, 2011
I wonder who Maboza is? Gotta be an alias to someone thats already on the forums. lol
Maboza Ritchie 8:16 PM - 7 June, 2011
Now wouldn't that be a novel thing :)

I do know someone here, as he pointed me in this direction from another forum :)
The Real DJ Pauly D 8:19 PM - 7 June, 2011
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Now wouldn't that be a novel thing :)
:)


Nah Simpsons did it
O.B.1 9:21 PM - 7 June, 2011
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I wonder who Maboza is? Gotta be an alias to someone thats already on the forums. lol


I was thinking the exact same thing...

hey how's it going Pauly - can I get one scoop of spumoni in a waffle cone?
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:47 PM - 7 June, 2011
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I wonder who Maboza is? Gotta be an alias to someone thats already on the forums. lol


I was thinking the exact same thing...

hey how's it going Pauly - can I get one scoop of spumoni in a waffle cone?



i was thinking the same thing, until i googled his name and the word forum......hes a pro at this

you can follwo him on twitter @shoodbeworking
Maboza Ritchie 9:51 PM - 7 June, 2011
It's a slam dunk!

LMAO!

The things you can do with 4 day's off, I don't need much time to do my work because I studied at school and did my homework.
Hassle 11:07 AM - 8 June, 2011
so I started a topic like 4 days ago asking suggestions for a new soundcard for my DAW, and I got zero response even though I'm sure there's peeps on here that can drop some knowledge.

no n00b shit at all, and I've been on this forum since 2008. what's up with that?

fuck yall
djlj 2:15 PM - 9 June, 2011
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so I started a topic like 4 days ago asking suggestions for a new soundcard for my DAW, and I got zero response even though I'm sure there's peeps on here that can drop some knowledge.

no n00b shit at all, and I've been on this forum since 2008. what's up with that?

fuck yall


Sorry to hear that you didn't get the response you were looking for. Your reaction to the lack of responses might prove to be counter-productive.

While I share your opinion that there are Serato forum users who could probably give you some opinions on soundcards and DAWs, I don't think you should specifically expect a response. Put the question out there, bump it perhaps, and hope for someone to read it and give you their input.

That said, there are forums online that have audio production as their primary scope, and might be a better choice for posting a question like that.

ps - I really, really hope I didn't respond to that seriously if you're just trolling.