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The ultimate SSL vinyl?

Stuart Ramdeen 10:22 PM - 12 August, 2004
I've been toying with the idea of getting my own vinyl pressed up or ssl. I know serato are going to get a set of control records that are flawless very soon, but I was reading up on vinyl pressing in general (I'm an impatient git) and found something called DMM (Direct Metal Mastering) where the record is cut much similar like the vestax home vinyl cutter, but onto a copper disk. When I heard of this I instantly thought that SSL would be a good candidate for this as surely the copper record would wear out a lot slower.

Have others got any knowledge of DMM discs? What are they like for dj use? What do they do to your styli?

just an idea. Might be completely stupid

:-)

stu
chubbsta 10:39 PM - 12 August, 2004
The copper disc is used to make a postive image, from this negatives are pressed. From these negatives, the finished vinyls are pressed. DMM is just a way of premastering for vinyl-production. these shouldn't be played on normal turntables and cost about $300 per Master. So NO GOOD IDEA FOR SSL ;-)
nik39 3:13 AM - 13 August, 2004
chubs, I've been looking for a way to get them "pressed" recorded by someone who owns a vestax vinyl cutter... You know anyone around here?
AJ 5:50 PM - 13 August, 2004
Why would you want to get control records cut on a Vestax vinyl cutter? The quality will never be anywhere near the quality of pressed vinyl, and we only charge $10 for replacements.
yuri 6:17 PM - 13 August, 2004
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Why would you want to get control records cut on a Vestax vinyl cutter?


The same reason why I have looked into it also. We are tired of waiting for the fixed vinyls. (im not blatanly complaining, im just giving you the actual reason why)

peace
nik39 6:58 PM - 13 August, 2004
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Why would you want to get control records cut on a Vestax vinyl cutter? The quality will never be anywhere near the quality of pressed vinyl, and we only charge $10 for replacements.


Well from what I have read, I dont think that the vinyls will have less quality than the actual, it should have a better wow+flutter then. :) Thats the only reason. I am also desperately waiting for the new vinyls.
Stuart Ramdeen 12:30 AM - 14 August, 2004
yeah, as I said I'm just an impatient kinda guy so was toying with the idea of finding a temporary alternative way of getting drift free goodness. Thanks for the vinyl update on the other post.

stu
AJ 5:51 AM - 14 August, 2004
OK, I get it. I thought you were talking about cutting your own spares. They don't last very long, you would probably wear them out on the first night with the amount that you use the SL record.

As for waiting for the new hotness, c'mon guys not much longer now. I bet you were the kids who sat in the back saying "are we there yet? are we there yet?" :D
yuri 7:00 AM - 14 August, 2004
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As for waiting for the new hotness, c'mon guys not much longer now. I bet you were the kids who sat in the back saying "are we there yet? are we there yet?" :D


UMM NO. Ive noticed this problem since the second day i haf your product 3 months ago(??). Every single day since then Ive been waiting for a remedy. Do you know what kind of fealing it is to pay over 500 bux for a product and then have to sit on it when you are so dependent on it. I know your joking but the funny part of all this ended a long time ago.
Detroitbootybass 5:23 PM - 14 August, 2004
Chill out, yuri... patience is a virtue.

:-)
yuri 7:25 PM - 14 August, 2004
no it really isnt when the product was touted as being better than Final Scratch.. so i sell my perfectly working final scratch for a currently flawed system.. things were working fine for me and now im stuck with something that is a frustrating product atm.. dont tell me to chill out.. this is what QA is all about.. testing products for things like this before they go to market
BassChamber 8:37 PM - 14 August, 2004
i understand you yuri, i am using SSL evey gig... and pitch drifting problem is a pain.

but patience, i believe in Serato. they are giving us a lot of honest support.

i think they are working hard on it, so this bugs will be fixed soon.
Detroitbootybass 9:49 PM - 14 August, 2004
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dont tell me to chill out..


CHILL OUT!
yuri 10:39 PM - 14 August, 2004
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i understand you yuri, i am using SSL evey gig... and pitch drifting problem is a pain.

but patience, i believe in Serato. they are giving us a lot of honest support.

i think they are working hard on it, so this bugs will be fixed soon.


hey im not looking for anything im just telling it how IT IS
yuri 10:42 PM - 14 August, 2004
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dont tell me to chill out..


CHILL OUT!


no i dont think so
Detroitbootybass 11:06 PM - 14 August, 2004
Yuri, if your Final Scratch was working "perfectly", then why did you sell it?

...and I don't think you are "stuck with it" (in regards to Scratch Live) - you could trade it straight up for Final Scratch. No one would turn that offer down...
yuri 11:38 PM - 14 August, 2004
I sold it for improved sound quality, which I got, but in return the result was less functionality.

Stop trying debate my responses. Everything I stated is true.. some people are brushing it off as no big deal.. thats fine.. im not.. move on if you cant deal with it.. i take it serious
Detroitbootybass 12:15 AM - 15 August, 2004
I think most people here would like to see the improvements that you desire. The main difference is that we recognize an HONEST effort by the staff at Rane and Serato. We highly respect their work and the fact that they publicly discuss the software/hardware issues. We have KNOW that they are working their a$$es off to deliver a superior product - therefore, we don't constantly harrass them.

/.you.catch.more.flies.with.honey.than.you.do.with.vinegar.\
yuri 1:05 AM - 15 August, 2004
ummm no.. see the differences is you are harassing me when im just stating how things are.. AJ asked why and I responded with the honest answer why (AS DID OTHERS!).. He also made a joking response, which is fine but i dont appreciate it given the situation ive stated.. im sure they are working hard, but that is also there job!
Steve W 6:29 AM - 15 August, 2004
yuri, our policy is to sign up as beta testers those worst affected by a bug. I will contact you off-list for more details.
DJ Dynamight 9:27 PM - 15 August, 2004
wow, cool! yuri's complaining has been rewarded with him being privelaged enough to be a beta tester! now, that's what I call service! hehe :-)
Detroitbootybass 11:28 PM - 15 August, 2004
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wow, cool! yuri's complaining has been rewarded with him being privelaged enough to be a beta tester! now, that's what I call service! hehe :-)


LOL...

I am not sure how smart it was for Steve to publicly state their policy regarding beat testers. People are going to start to rant in hopes of being awarded this coveted position. Serato should have contacted Yuri privately (IMO).
lo-fi 9:23 AM - 16 August, 2004
shhhh!

They're only saying they'll make him a beta tester to get him go give his adress. Then they go to his house and beat him up.
DJ Dynamight 2:57 PM - 16 August, 2004
haha
yuri 3:15 PM - 16 August, 2004
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-privelaged enough to be a beta tester
-in hopes of being awarded this coveted position.


LOL.. GEEEEKS.. now all your ass kissing makes sense.. i dont even want to be a beta tester
nik39 9:33 PM - 16 August, 2004
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I am not sure how smart it was for Steve to publicly state their policy regarding beat testers.


Cool, I want to be a BEAT tester as well :-)