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Wanted bridge features

Evon 10:25 AM - 22 September, 2010
1. Being able to load songs to the bridge via Serato library.
2. Ableton being able to read the beatgrid in Serato and adjust warpmarkers accordingly.
HerbieWest 2:46 PM - 22 September, 2010
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1. Being able to load songs to the bridge via Serato library.

+1

Also,

- be able to load ableton live sessions on to the bridge directly from Serato Library (drag a .als file from serato library to the bridge).
- be able to add metadata to .als files, such as genre, bpm, etc... as well as adding als files to crates.
Dj cuervo 4:27 PM - 22 September, 2010
support for ITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stevie o 4:40 PM - 22 September, 2010
Have you tried Neosporin?^
Rane, Support
Chad S. 5:34 PM - 22 September, 2010
lol.

It should be coming for ITCH in the future.
nonplus 6:14 PM - 22 September, 2010
1. back cueing
2. doubles

until i can scratch and beat juggle with the bridge it's always gonna feel like it's missing something for me.
Dj Shamann 8:05 PM - 22 September, 2010
It would be dope if mixtape could somehow record the master tempo of your session as it progresses rather than just opening up in 120.

I don't know how you would implement that though, since your mixing two different tempos at once. I have theories in my head but I also shoot them down everytime i come up with a new one so I probably shouldn't suggest it LOL. Maybe record just the tempo of one deck, but then again you're adjusting that as well.

Never mind me ;p
XRM5 10:05 PM - 22 September, 2010
Wow, no back cueing at all? It's really just like a play/stop and pitch adjust thing?
Can't try it out 'til tonight.
Serato
Sean.C 1:00 AM - 23 September, 2010
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Wow, no back cueing at all? It's really just like a play/stop and pitch adjust thing?
Can't try it out 'til tonight.


this is due the functionality of the Ableton Audio Engine....

cheers

s
dj-jv 1:09 AM - 23 September, 2010
make a option to route the audio through the auxiliary channel on the 57.
Serato, Moderator
Nick M 4:36 AM - 23 September, 2010
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make a option to route the audio through the auxiliary channel on the 57.

You could do this by selecting the computer's soundcard as the output in Ableton Live preferences and run a cable from the soundcard into the aux of your mixer.
While the default when running the Bridge is the Serato Audio driver, you can choose any other soundcard available if you want.
DJ Ritmo 10:27 AM - 23 September, 2010
How about a option to remap the fader automation default parameters to another fader i.e I know the with the 57 if i use mixtape mode it will record all my fader movements and track position. How come I cant do this with my zero 4. It has the same midi technology as the 57. We should be able to freely use whatever mixer to maximize the bridge as long as it has midi the options should be available. We spend to much money on all this gear to have proprietary options for midi fader movements.

I know you guys are trying to sell 68 and 57 but seriously if someone is getting a 57 or 68 I doubt they are buying it for the mixtape fader automation feature. Am I making sense
farrell 2:24 PM - 23 September, 2010
I understand and totally agree.

You are making sense I just bought a djm 800 simply because on the 68 I didn't care for the second usb, the empath was my next option but for £700 and no midi just barebones hmmm, the 57sl, I already have a 56 and the HC100s, so for £300 more I could get a Djm 800 with newer technology and just put an innofader which I did.

1. There are two extremes and nothing in between this needs to be addressed.

2. Being able to actually see what you did in a mix with ableton was always standard
why make it for only selected rane hardware eg. 57sl, rane 68 that's not cool.

3. If you were to make it a standard feature of using the bridge I think you might find that more people would buy the two products, but by making it mixer specific I don't think thats cool.

4. My solution! The bridge shows 8 tracks, create a 9th track take an aux out from your mixer master channel send it back to your input of your audio interface and you get whole recording no automation, but it's already in ableton and timing is there you just have to edit you stuff that's a next topic.

So mixtape feature or no mixtape feature.

You guys are on point for merging the two Apps.
DJ Ritmo 2:37 PM - 23 September, 2010
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I understand and totally agree.

You are making sense I just bought a djm 800 simply because on the 68 I didn't care for the second usb, the empath was my next option but for £700 and no midi just barebones hmmm, the 57sl, I already have a 56 and the HC100s, so for £300 more I could get a Djm 800 with newer technology and just put an innofader which I did.

1. There are two extremes and nothing in between this needs to be addressed.

2. Being able to actually see what you did in a mix with ableton was always standard
why make it for only selected rane hardware eg. 57sl, rane 68 that's not cool.

3. If you were to make it a standard feature of using the bridge I think you might find that more people would buy the two products, but by making it mixer specific I don't think thats cool.

4. My solution! The bridge shows 8 tracks, create a 9th track take an aux out from your mixer master channel send it back to your input of your audio interface and you get whole recording no automation, but it's already in ableton and timing is there you just have to edit you stuff that's a next topic.

So mixtape feature or no mixtape feature.

You guys are on point for merging the two Apps.


There are few untruths in your statement and I think you may have partially misunderstood mine.

You can the bridge and the majority of its features with any dj set up. The mixtape fader automation I was referring to is only recorded when you use a 57 or 68. I can still use the mixtape feature but it will not record my automation just my tracks.

There is work around for it. You can map the channel volume or velocity to your mixers faders as well as the crossfader in ableton. The mixtape saves itself in session file istead of standard wav or aiff file.

What serator and ableton need to come up with is a way for us to map that internal midi setting to any midi fader,knob,button. As it stands now you need a 57 or 68 to actually get serato to record your fader movements and save itself in that ableton session file.

I hope this clears up what I said. Im sure there are more features of the bridge only accessible by the 57 or 68 but this is the only known one so far.
phatbob 5:58 PM - 23 September, 2010
It would be sweet to be able to tell ableton you're using a djm-800 and have it read the midi sent by your faders.

After all, the 700 and 800 use the exact same, unchangable midi mappings, and so that would be a heck of a lot of users who would be made very happy just by catering to that one specific midi set-up...
farrell 6:08 PM - 23 September, 2010
And that would make The Bridge unstoppable. Yes sir a wicked combination every person djing would buy the two apps for sure, even traktor users would switch.
DJ SHY 8:17 PM - 23 September, 2010
i understand that the mixtape feature just lets you adjust fader automation and what not... but what about warping?... for instance, lets say i trainwrecked a mix and I wanted to edit it in ableton just by adjusting using the warp feature... you can't b/c its based on the master tempo which is defaulted at 120bpm... the only way to edit the mix is literally moving the piece to "sorta" fit and be on beat... which then you have to move all the tracks after that to make sure everything is lined up again...

i guess this feature request ties into what @DJShamann mentioned above by reading the tempo of each song and adjusting the master tempo accordingly..

Personally if i'm making a multitrack mixtape, I like to add things on top of other tracks and ad-lib, and re-record if my scratching is off....etc...
DJ Ritmo 9:27 PM - 23 September, 2010
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i understand that the mixtape feature just lets you adjust fader automation and what not... but what about warping?... for instance, lets say i trainwrecked a mix and I wanted to edit it in ableton just by adjusting using the warp feature... you can't b/c its based on the master tempo which is defaulted at 120bpm... the only way to edit the mix is literally moving the piece to "sorta" fit and be on beat... which then you have to move all the tracks after that to make sure everything is lined up again...

i guess this feature request ties into what @DJShamann mentioned above by reading the tempo of each song and adjusting the master tempo accordingly..

Personally if i'm making a multitrack mixtape, I like to add things on top of other tracks and ad-lib, and re-record if my scratching is off....etc...


I cant to see what you do with the bridge. I know your gonna somethin crazy to inspire me to do something crazier. When you coming out wit another mix SHY. Sorry to thread jack. Yall can have it back
gevola 4:44 AM - 24 September, 2010
MixTape should record "Analog" Input channel.
www.serato.com
thebuttonfreak 4:52 AM - 24 September, 2010
fine pitch slider for ableton
thebuttonfreak 4:53 AM - 24 September, 2010
oh, and an internal mixer so those of us without a 68 or 57 can use the mixtape feature.
Dj Ace 5:54 AM - 24 September, 2010
i want to scratch clips!
Evon 6:42 AM - 24 September, 2010
- Being able to play one song in the bridge and send another clip to my headphones before I bring it in the mix within ableton itself.
Still a novice with ableton. Anyone know how to do this? Should be possible I think.
Can you select different soundcards for each channel in Ableton?
My plan is to hook the laptop soundcard to channel 4 in my mixer and route the tunnel to channel 3 in my mixer.
phatbob 8:48 AM - 24 September, 2010
Evon,

As I saw somewhere on here you can route Live's audio elsewhere, not just the SL box, I'm sure you could set your ableton cue output to feed out of your soundcard, back into your mixer.

Then you can set the appropriate channel to Cue and pre-listen to what you like.

Might need a bit of a read of the Live manual, 'cos I'm sure it can be done.
farrell 8:49 AM - 24 September, 2010
Yes it can.
Evon 5:43 PM - 24 September, 2010
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Yes it can.


Doesn't seem to work. When I go to each channel to and chose the soundoption it goes for all channels :(
nonplus 5:52 PM - 24 September, 2010
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Wow, no back cueing at all? It's really just like a play/stop and pitch adjust thing?
Can't try it out 'til tonight.


this is due the functionality of the Ableton Audio Engine....

cheers

s


so back cueing is a no go? we'll never see it?

thats a huge disappointment. i guess i can forget about scratching clips. i wish i knew that a year ago...
DJ Ritmo 6:08 PM - 24 September, 2010
there is a way because I remember along time ago some release a plugin for use with MS. Pinky vinyl to manipulate audio in ableton. Doing something like this with serato intergration will take them a while to get it right. The Ms. Pinky patch was decent it had absolute and relative mode that was it.
nonplus 8:43 PM - 24 September, 2010
i remember that seeing that ms. pinky video. have you ever used it?

that would be really messed up though. some dude can come up with a home-brewed way of scratching clips in ableton with a dvs and serato/ableton doesn't/can't implement it. ouch... i haven't given up hope yet.

i just want to know if it's in the works or not. its well worth the wait.
DJ Ritmo 11:11 PM - 24 September, 2010
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i remember that seeing that ms. pinky video. have you ever used it?

that would be really messed up though. some dude can come up with a home-brewed way of scratching clips in ableton with a dvs and serato/ableton doesn't/can't implement it. ouch... i haven't given up hope yet.

i just want to know if it's in the works or not. its well worth the wait.


I know that Ms. Pinky thing works but its only a vst plugin. Which when I was using Torq( a long time ago) I could load the plugin and just a trail version of ableton and I could scratch clips and midi beat clock to keep everything synced it was just sluggish and not greatly design. I dont even think it was officially released by Ms. Pinky I just think some smart dude came up with the plugin.

Its possible for us to scratch we just have to paitent the bridge can become very unstable with to many untested additions. Im sure Serato and ableton are aware of the MS. Pinky emulation and Im sure they prolly even hired the guy the made it for his input on the bridge. These guys know there shit
nonplus 11:52 PM - 24 September, 2010
no doubt ritmo. i agree with what your saying. i just want to hear from someone that works for serato if back cueing is in the works.

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Wow, no back cueing at all? It's really just like a play/stop and pitch adjust thing?
Can't try it out 'til tonight.


this is due the functionality of the Ableton Audio Engine....

cheers

s


doesn't sound to positive.
Anu 12:45 AM - 25 September, 2010
Seriously...Feature Request Already...
kraal 1:51 AM - 26 September, 2010
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Seriously...Feature Request Already...

exactly ha
farrell 11:12 AM - 26 September, 2010
Fader Automation for Sl3 Users.
Evon 12:09 PM - 26 September, 2010
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Seriously...Feature Request Already...


One of the reason this forum exist isn't it? For feedback that might help Serato ahead of the competition.
DJ Ritmo 2:24 PM - 26 September, 2010
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Fader Automation for Sl3 Users.


+1000
kraal 5:16 PM - 26 September, 2010
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Seriously...Feature Request Already...


One of the reason this forum exist isn't it? For feedback that might help Serato ahead of the competition.

true but i would like to see some dope routines with the current release first... wishlist are fine but still
nonplus 11:46 PM - 26 September, 2010
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Seriously...Feature Request Already...


One of the reason this forum exist isn't it? For feedback that might help Serato ahead of the competition.

true but i would like to see some dope routines with the current release first... wishlist are fine but still


wishlist... please. that shit should have been in the beta!
nuwave_afro 12:08 AM - 27 September, 2010
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Seriously...Feature Request Already...

word. the backcue issue deserves its own thread. yes we all agree that scratching clips was the main idea, and not having that is a huge letdown for many. it would be nice to hear from the developers on this.
nuwave_afro 12:51 AM - 27 September, 2010
(and now a actual feature request)...

MIDI MIXTAPE - automation for everything in SSL: deck movements, loops, loop rolls, sp6 drops effects... EVERYTHING that ssl does while recording to be saved as editable midi data, then applied to the audio file (or clip, hopefully) when .als is opened in ableton. i tried to explain this alittle while ago over here: www.serato.com

is this possible? i use a 57 and a black macbook that doesnt meet minimum processor requirements for bridge use; results from mixtape currently are pretty rough. i'm thinking that if it wasnt 5 channels of audio going thru a usb 1.1 connection, the results would be better.

much like the scratching clips issue, i had hoped this was part of the original bridge concept, but realized it was pretty ambitious given the nature of ableton and multitrack recording in general. and just like clip-scratching - i would love to hear from the devs if how close this is to happening.
Anu 2:16 AM - 27 September, 2010
I don't understand all the fuss over clip scratching...you can use livefeed or load any audio file you want into Serato..

Feature Request are good ...but man have you guys really explored both software..?
There are some valid request don't get me wrong,but it is a little early.
Dj Ace 5:24 AM - 27 September, 2010
I try to use the live feed feature with no success using the 68, it works spotty at beast...maybe i am using it wrong...please explain Anu! yes if this would work properly then your 100 percent correct on being able to scratch with ATC...but individual clips would be nice you must admit!
Dj Ace 5:25 AM - 27 September, 2010
not even individual clip rather separate tracks
Dj Ace 5:26 AM - 27 September, 2010
scratching seperate tracks in ableton is what i meant to say LOL
Dj Ace 5:46 AM - 27 September, 2010
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I try to use the live feed feature with no success using the 68, it works spotty at beast...maybe i am using it wrong...please explain Anu! yes if this would work properly then your 100 percent correct on being able to scratch with ATC...but individual clips would be nice you must admit!


More Clarification...
it works fine with ipod's etc but when I try to feed it the bridge track i run into issues
Anu 11:28 PM - 27 September, 2010
You should use a separate audio card for Ableton Live,if you are not already.I use sl1 for Serato and Firebox for Ableton live.

Are you using the 68 alone for both...?
Dj Ace 2:09 AM - 28 September, 2010
yes...since i have the bridge coming in on channel 3 of my 68 i use the live feed usb 3 ungated track on the deck in SL. if I use the gated track i have some success but no as good as with my 57
supremebeing 9:46 PM - 28 September, 2010
MIDI Support for DJM800 the bridge.

Was very surprised and disappointed its only for Rane products no way in hell im buying Rane mixers just for that id rather switch DVS.

Sort it out guys
Marx&Villain 3:20 AM - 29 September, 2010
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MIDI Support for DJM800 the bridge.

Was very surprised and disappointed its only for Rane products no way in hell im buying Rane mixers just for that id rather switch DVS.

Sort it out guys


+1
Dj Ace 3:33 AM - 29 September, 2010
the bridge will work with a djm 800 and a sl1 or sl3...don't understand? the only thing is you wont get the fader automation...but you still get the multitracking, editing, and other bridge features! And eventually the itch controllers will also work with the bridge...so you can buy a allen and heath, vestax, or numark itch controller also! it a good time to be a serato user and this is just the first of many more to come bridge updates! Serato the software company that just keeps on giving!!!
phatbob 7:39 AM - 29 September, 2010
That's all very nice, but I don't think there is any harm in us DJM users asking for the Bridge to also read the fixed midi signals from our mixers.

After all, they've supported a number of Pioneer products in other ways, and this doesn't seem that hard to implement. I'm not complaining that it doesn't work right now, just asking Serato to consider it...
nuwave_afro 4:58 PM - 30 September, 2010
i'm a 57 user. fuck that. they havent given me a return on my investment for years. there needs to be some advantage to choosing it over the djm-800. 57/68 owners have invested more with the company, and brand loyalty should have its perks, no?

its only temporary anyway, we all know the 800 will get midi support soon enough... video-sl and fx were initially 57 only. RANE will look out for you all too. in the meantime, let us live huh?
DJ Ritmo 12:51 AM - 1 October, 2010
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i'm a 57 user. fuck that. they havent given me a return on my investment for years. there needs to be some advantage to choosing it over the djm-800. 57/68 owners have invested more with the company, and brand loyalty should have its perks, no?

its only temporary anyway, we all know the 800 will get midi support soon enough... video-sl and fx were initially 57 only. RANE will look out for you all too. in the meantime, let us live huh?


fuk that rane didnt force you to buy it. If they wanted to give you perks you would have to own a 57 or 68 to even Scratchlive there would be no SL boxes. I think you point is lil weak.....no thread war
kraal 1:15 AM - 1 October, 2010
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i'm a 57 user. fuck that. they havent given me a return on my investment for years.

what type of return are you looking for... it mixes and controls serato... if you have yet to get a return on your investment maybe you should charge more for your gigs??? just joking move along
nuwave_afro 8:49 AM - 1 October, 2010
haha true. and true. no thread war please! i put in my 2 cents... back to bridge feature requests
Evon 8:58 AM - 1 October, 2010
I'm using a SL3 and sometimes I run ACT track in internal mode on deck 3. It would be nice to be able to sync to deck 1 or 2 without ACT track jump to the ableton player.
Evon 9:06 AM - 1 October, 2010
Also noticed when using mixtape. Mixtape records my cuetracks. I want to be able to only record the master for each channel so whatever I do in my headphones won't get recorded.
Dj M.o.o.N 10:10 AM - 1 October, 2010
support for ITCH would be nice.....
kraal 11:09 AM - 1 October, 2010
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support for ITCH would be nice.....

it's on its way it seems itch has some growing pains right now so it will just be late
Caliber 10:54 PM - 1 October, 2010
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Also noticed when using mixtape. Mixtape records my cuetracks. I want to be able to only record the master for each channel so whatever I do in my headphones won't get recorded.


is that with the 57 and 58 or are you talking about the sl1 and or sl3
Evon 11:54 PM - 1 October, 2010
SL3
phatbob 12:05 AM - 2 October, 2010
Sorry Evon, what you're asking for is currently impossible without a 57 or 68. We're asking in this thread for the bridge to read the fader movements of other midi mixers, but that's a long shot.

You need to think about the signal chain...
tchan 6:21 PM - 2 October, 2010
how about routing SL audio through Live to take advantage of Live's audio effects, device chains, max 4 live patches, etc?
DJ Ritmo 6:29 PM - 2 October, 2010
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Sorry Evon, what you're asking for is currently impossible without a 57 or 68. We're asking in this thread for the bridge to read the fader movements of other midi mixers, but that's a long shot.

You need to think about the signal chain...


its midi my dude. SL and Ableton are constantly scanning all the midi ports attatched to the computer. You can put limits on what channels it scans from and also what ports to use. You can even program it to block certain midi channels or ports within specific applictaions. You can also not allow the certain program features to be midi automated unless a certain piece of hardware is attached to it. Theres loads more you can do with so I know its more than possible for serato and ableton to figure this one out. Its goes a lil deeper than that but midi was essentially set up for it be easy to use with all devices that meat a certain standard and for it be easily programmable. What people are asking is not a alot.

About the Signal Chain it remains the same you have to remember that Serato is reading midi input from all channels. The 57 and 68 midi channels are preset to sent on specific port and channel and for serato not listen to any other devices for midi input on all other channels.....
realbadeshi 9:28 PM - 11 October, 2010
Interesting thread.

I admit I havent really explored it that much got a little put off by it not quite doing what I expected.

1. Mixtape to Record Vinyl performance! (this is why I havent really used it...)
2. Mixtape/Ableton to follow tempo of tracks - Why cant this be implemented? Cant Scratch output MIDI clock???
3. Understand xfader reverse
without these features Mixtape is no better than Cubase setup to record decks on different tracks...

I dont really know about 'bridge' element so much, I too lazy to go fully MP3 and cant get 'beatgrid' from vinyl...

lazy from frustration maybe? as this is almost such an amazing software....
Dj Ace 10:31 PM - 11 October, 2010
from your thread it sound like your using 90-100% vinyl...so why even waste your time with a DVS?
realbadeshi 7:42 AM - 12 October, 2010
i use mixture.

just would like it 'as feature request' to deal with vinyl as well as mp3. No time wasted!
s3kn0tr0n1c 11:23 AM - 12 October, 2010
the abilty to do "layered mixes" like using a multitrack recorder.

playback stuff while recording new stuff over the top.

great for hiphop mixes.
Dj Ace 12:51 AM - 13 October, 2010
awww ok ic
Dj Ace 12:52 AM - 13 October, 2010
good feature request from that perspective
audiomontana 4:15 PM - 21 October, 2010
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It would be dope if mixtape could somehow record the master tempo of your session as it progresses rather than just opening up in 120.

I don't know how you would implement that though, since your mixing two different tempos at once. I have theories in my head but I also shoot them down everytime i come up with a new one so I probably shouldn't suggest it LOL. Maybe record just the tempo of one deck, but then again you're adjusting that as well.

Never mind me ;p


Hi,

Ive been watching the bridge concept since clues of the ableton serato partnership were released -- I have long been a Traktor 3 user and proponent of the NMX recorder which was disabled and then discontinued in the Traktor Lineage -- Bridge Mixtape function is 'basically' exactly what Ive been looking for to extend the development of my NMX ideas and practices.

I think that the feature request here: to record master tempo changes is and will be best imnplemented in ITCH -- Ie: itch has syncing features that maintain a master tempo and it is even annoying at times when a track is mangled while adhering to that deck or master tempo or when using the looping function and the track pops out of the loop and bounces to some odd tempo phasing.

The tempo data for serato itch could easily be written to the master tempo automation lane of Ableton.

Bring on Bridge for Itch -- Im currently using the ALlen and Heath DX on all Gigs despite its problems and Itch's somewhat limited feature set. Looking forward to the advancement of this mix and production tool .

Dj Silver Lining -

Producer of Montana Mountain Parties and Sound Tech for Musik Lives
Here Productions -- guitarsofmontana.com
j.e.turns 8:38 AM - 28 October, 2010
my biggest gripe is that i've been an ableton user since v1... every one of my audio files are warped to perfection, why can't serato read the corresponding .asd files to where i don't have to "beatgrid" everything once more? perhaps i'm missing something, but i've had little to no success with ableton syncing to a deck. (even after carefully griding the track in serato that it's slaving to) it's just a tad bit infuriating that i'm having to spend time re-doing work i've most certainly done already. particularly when you compare how easy it is (granted due to the amount of times i've done it) to do it in ableton, particularly when it comes to how large you can make the waveforms etc to make it that much more finite.

next, the bar/beat markers that are represented when ableton has been loaded to a deck, do not match to the waveforms of the "normal" operating wav representations. i find that i have to lead the ableton markers by about 1/8-1/16th of a bar in order for the sound to actually be matched. i couldn't care less, i always mix by ear and tend to keep my laptop to the side as to not impede my dancefloor/booth dynamic. still a bit annoying regardless.

i'd also like to see the faders in the serato gui for ableton not have to be clicked and draged in order to change volume. if you use ableton natively, you'll notice that you can click anywhere in the fader's linear throw range, and the fader will snap to that value.... not a huge deal, but if i'm not running my apc40 or another controller, this would definitely be a major hinderance trying to desperately grab for a nearly impossible triangle. (this is most noticable when the faders are all the way at -inf. they're definitely tricky to grab while moving quickly your pointer movements have to be very precise.)

also a bit higher level contrast, or perhaps definition, of the ableton session view representation? it's a bit foggy compared to the native view, and has been a bit lame.

otherwise, i'm enjoying it thoroughly.... running ableton through core audio and a seperate interface, while running my aux sends on my Xone92 back into ableton for fx, with latency set to 256 samples i haven't had a hiccup yet performance or crash wise.

i hope i don't come off as ungrateful at all.... i just happen to be a heavy user of both programs and am very used to how they operate independantly. all in all cheers to both companies for absolutely changing the game!
j.e.turns 9:09 AM - 28 October, 2010
oh... and one more thing, i haven't tried it yet, and was curious if it's even possible:

in the past i've run multiple laptops networking via ethernet cables to effectively master/slave other performers laptops, dedicated fx processing, etc etc. is it possible, while running the bridge to utilize this functionality? or with the way the communication protocol runs between serato and ableton is this rendered impossible?

better put, i run my bridge setup with decks etc... then have a friend who's an ableton only dj who would need to be synced as well. can he slave off of my ableton session tempo, even though it's technically slaving to serato? it may seem seriously unnecessary, but regardless it's definitely a point that needs be addressed in my opinion. beyond that, it's just mtc at that level, hence the reason it's so damned effective/light on cpu.

this was an incredibly simple thing before. but beyond badass and necessary.

*for those who are a bit lost, using the method i've touched on, you can literally sync traktor, to ableton, as well as ext hardware such as mpc's etc... if you'd like to see it in action, look up the "contakt" shows that the m-nus label was doing a few years back richie hawtin and crew all run varying forms of either ableton, traktor, or hardware, but they had all the machines running perfectly in sync... quite spectacular to say the least.*

i'm just curious how far we can really take this, particularly since it was already a big part of the way i run live pa's.
realbadeshi 9:40 AM - 28 October, 2010
+1

Can serato output MIDI clock or time code?
I guess it can when Ableton is 'bridged' with it?

Agree with JE that syncing to a deck is troublesome.
Would it not be possible for serato and abletons tempo/warp/beatgrid systems to be interchangable?
This would also help getting mixtape to understand what tempo you have recorded at.
On this point, it seems crucial to be able to do this as Ableton is fundamentaly about warping and timestretching audio to fit a tempo.
j.e.turns 11:10 AM - 28 October, 2010
serato as it stands for now is incapable of sending MTC or traditional Timecode for external syncing. even now with the bridge, as far as i understand it, that syncing is truly in the coding tying to two programs together, thus essentially makes the bridge 100% accurate to it's namesake... not being done via the traditional (and frankly archaic) signal generated/modulated methods that i was illustrating ealier.

(...yes i'm fully aware that this is the principal that serato is built upon, still super stale tech, albeit very effective in the light of the simple task of matching single .wav,.aiff, or .mp3 files to an external source)

as for the warping/griding debacle, realbadeshi... i appreciate that someone else has the same feelings about it! i obviously completely agree with you, (which thankfully you were much more eloquent in stating than i) that this precise function is what ableton's foundation is built upon! i appreciate you for tying that up much more succinctly than i.

i sincerely hope that serato and ableton can understand that this wasted time trying to regrid to a new system (albeit not new for serato, it's the basis of itch) completely inhibits what should be time spent getting more creative, each of us coming up with mind blowing new ideas and methods.
Caliber 1:20 PM - 28 October, 2010
j.e.turns. I don't get the syncing issue that you get. Have you tried posting in the bridge help section
tchan 5:07 PM - 28 October, 2010
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in the past i've run multiple laptops networking via ethernet cables to effectively master/slave other performers laptops, dedicated fx processing, etc etc. is it possible, while running the bridge to utilize this functionality? or with the way the communication protocol runs between serato and ableton is this rendered impossible?


i started some threads regarding sync in both the serato & ableton forums but haven't heard back from anyone:

www.serato.com
forum.ableton.com

basically when bridge mode is enabled, serato takes over live's external sync function. as a result, you can't connect your live session to a MIDI network with other laptops.

we're trying to incorporate bridge/serato/live in collaborative group performances. version 1 of the bridge implementation clearly was not designed for this type of performance style. so we decided to abandon the bridge but continue to run separate instances of serato and live from the same laptop (serato outputs through the ttm-57sl while live outputs through a firewire audio interface).

hopefully we'll have more sync options for bridge v2....but i would love to be proven wrong with an upcoming update that magically addresses external clock sync!

ps: wireless MIDI network sync is where it's at. keeps all the laptops in time, enables you to use iPads/iphones/ipod touches for wireless control and enables you to wander around the stage to communicate better with your collaborators ;-)
dj intro 10:07 AM - 12 November, 2010
So far i've played around with the program, and its pretty solid, the only thing I would like it to do is, when I have one deck sync to my ableton and when I start to mix on the free deck, I would like to be able to do a smooth transition from the sync deck to the next deck. I noticed if you try to do this, the loop on ableton gets thrown off sync with deck #2 the next mix. So pretty much you would have a loop to mix in and out of. Other than this issue, I think it's a great idea, can't wait for the upcoming updates.
Caliber 3:52 PM - 12 November, 2010
Full midi automation with scratchlive supporting HID cd players such as pioneer cj 900 and 2000, would be great if my tempo changes were recording. I know this would be a major feature since ableton only have a master tempo and implementing something of this caliber would take a while but would be a great feature. Even if the tempo changes take place at the middle of ttm57 fader while going to the next deck, it would still be good.
Evon 9:35 PM - 14 November, 2010
When I have ableton synced to one of my decs and hit loop the ableton track also loops. This should be a option to turn on/off.
Also being able to set loops in Ableton within serato in synced mode.
Dj Eqwip 1:26 AM - 19 November, 2010
being able to record live ableton clips in serato w/ the bride and loop on the fly.
Dj Ace 2:33 AM - 19 November, 2010
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being able to record live ableton clips in serato w/ the bride and loop on the fly.


+1 on this

i would love to be able to drap tracks from serato crates directly to ableton live's clip while using the bridge
HerbieWest 12:29 PM - 23 November, 2010
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i would love to be able to drap tracks from serato crates directly to ableton live's clip while using the bridge


+ 10000000

this and droping whole .als files (same way yo can do it on ableton)
Quirksmode_uk 4:48 PM - 23 November, 2010
It's such a shame that serato are using their own beat gridding for this. It's enough of a chore beat warping for ableton let along having to do it twice just to get the different songs to sync up.

I really reckon that Serato and Itch should be a single combined product (Like Traktor) that shares Abletons beat warps. On top of the current features of bridge (being able to mix ableton using a deck is a great idea!!) I believe that you should be able to mix beatwarps from deck 1 to deck 2 (decks 3 and 4 in the future?) whilst ableton runs in sync in the background.

For the record I love mixing normally and have been for years, but for certain sets I also love the freedom that beat warps offer and being able to drag and drop random beatwarped tunes from Seratos file browser would free me up to really do some cool stuff with ableton and FX without having to sync left, sync right like it seems to work at the moment.

I guess the gist of it is, make Serato more like Traktor, whilst combining the bridge and abletons beat warps and you will clean up!!
jepe 6:19 PM - 23 November, 2010
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It's such a shame that serato are using their own beat gridding for this. It's enough of a chore beat warping for ableton let along having to do it twice just to get the different songs to sync up.

I really reckon that Serato and Itch should be a single combined product (Like Traktor) that shares Abletons beat warps. On top of the current features of bridge (being able to mix ableton using a deck is a great idea!!) I believe that you should be able to mix beatwarps from deck 1 to deck 2 (decks 3 and 4 in the future?) whilst ableton runs in sync in the background.

For the record I love mixing normally and have been for years, but for certain sets I also love the freedom that beat warps offer and being able to drag and drop random beatwarped tunes from Seratos file browser would free me up to really do some cool stuff with ableton and FX without having to sync left, sync right like it seems to work at the moment.

I guess the gist of it is, make Serato more like Traktor, whilst combining the bridge and abletons beat warps and you will clean up!!



+1
Evon 10:33 AM - 29 November, 2010
Being able to load songs into the bridge via Serato library. I know I mention this before but can't stress this enough. Have to deal with two libraries and use alt tab all the time, to switch programs really hinder workflow. Switching between programs also increases the chance of a crash or sound glitches.
HerbieWest 11:47 AM - 30 November, 2010
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Being able to load songs into the bridge via Serato library. I know I mention this before but can't stress this enough. Have to deal with two libraries and use alt tab all the time, to switch programs really hinder workflow. Switching between programs also increases the chance of a crash or sound glitches.


+1
Alixx J 7:03 PM - 5 December, 2010
^^^ agree
Heckroth 6:10 PM - 13 December, 2010
My wishes:

1. Load a track from Serato directly into an Ableton slot.
2. Another stereo output from Ableton to load one Ableton track to left and one to the right side.
3. A button to minimize the Ableton view to gain space for the Serato crates - but where you can still see the Ableton status of Sync to "Deck1", "Deck2" or "INT" as well as Output on "L", "R" or "A".
4. Time left indicator for playing Ableton tracks.
5. Little waveforms for Ableton tracks to see the song position and highlighted areas when loops are activated.
6. Ableton Pitch slider with the ability of setting individual pitch ranges to +/- 8%, +/- 16%, +/- 32%.
7. Ableton warp markers can be used by Serato for Beatgrids.
8. Playing an Ableton track backwards a bit for cuing - especially when using timecode vinyls. I hope Ableton can make some changes with their audio engine to get this work.
Satsun 2:55 AM - 14 December, 2010
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My wishes:

1. Load a track from Serato directly into an Ableton slot.
2. Another stereo output from Ableton to load one Ableton track to left and one to the right side.
3. A button to minimize the Ableton view to gain space for the Serato crates - but where you can still see the Ableton status of Sync to "Deck1", "Deck2" or "INT" as well as Output on "L", "R" or "A".
4. Time left indicator for playing Ableton tracks.
5. Little waveforms for Ableton tracks to see the song position and highlighted areas when loops are activated.
6. Ableton Pitch slider with the ability of setting individual pitch ranges to +/- 8%, +/- 16%, +/- 32%.
7. Ableton warp markers can be used by Serato for Beatgrids.
8. Playing an Ableton track backwards a bit for cuing - especially when using timecode vinyls. I hope Ableton can make some changes with their audio engine to get this work.


I'm a heavy Ableton user who's interested in The Bridge. If they did all this... done deal. I'd have an SL3 in my hands tomorrow. But I'd probably settle for Serato to Ableton track loading, a time remaining indicator, and shared warp markers. Those three features would make The Bridge much more appealing.

If I had to add one more thing Heckroth's list, it'd be the ability to route Serato into Ableton internally (the audio could still go out through the SL3). That would open some fascinating doors (dummy clips, Beatlookup style effects).
Evon 7:38 PM - 14 December, 2010
Quote:
My wishes:

1. Load a track from Serato directly into an Ableton slot.
2. Another stereo output from Ableton to load one Ableton track to left and one to the right side.
3. A button to minimize the Ableton view to gain space for the Serato crates - but where you can still see the Ableton status of Sync to "Deck1", "Deck2" or "INT" as well as Output on "L", "R" or "A".
4. Time left indicator for playing Ableton tracks.
5. Little waveforms for Ableton tracks to see the song position and highlighted areas when loops are activated.
6. Ableton Pitch slider with the ability of setting individual pitch ranges to +/- 8%, +/- 16%, +/- 32%.
7. Ableton warp markers can be used by Serato for Beatgrids.
8. Playing an Ableton track backwards a bit for cuing - especially when using timecode vinyls. I hope Ableton can make some changes with their audio engine to get this work.



Amen
These things would increase workflow alot.
Satsun 2:38 PM - 21 December, 2010
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When I have ableton synced to one of my decs and hit loop the ableton track also loops. This should be a option to turn on/off.


If this is true, it's terrible! What other dj software handles syncing this way (where looping in one deck loops the other)? Ableton should simply sync to the deck without responding to the deck's looping, at least w/o responding to loops larger than 1 bar. An on/off switch for synced looping is essential.

It should be possible, for example, to loop a 4 bar drum beat at the end of a deck's track and then add a synced melody or acapella over that beat with Live. Right now it sounds like the added samples would all have to be 4 bar loops. Why??
ehrlalba 6:28 PM - 22 December, 2010
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djm

cosigned
ehrlalba 6:29 PM - 22 December, 2010
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It would be sweet to be able to tell ableton you're using a djm-800 and have it read the midi sent by your faders.

After all, the 700 and 800 use the exact same, unchangable midi mappings, and so that would be a heck of a lot of users who would be made very happy just by catering to that one specific midi set-up...


I meant this; cosigned.
BREAKFADER 4:46 AM - 26 December, 2010
show bpm,loop start and length,and waveform
grrillatactics 4:18 PM - 27 December, 2010
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- be able to load ableton live sessions on to the bridge directly from Serato Library (drag a .als file from serato library to the bridge).
- be able to add metadata to .als files, such as genre, bpm, etc... as well as adding als files to crates.


This. Or at least be able to open Live's browser within the Bridge (even if that means that you lose visibility of some channels in Live; I'm cool with only viewing 4 or 6 channels while my Live browser is open within the Bridge).
ancientyouth 4:48 PM - 29 December, 2010
I want the ableton (a) and (b) tracks to be routed seperately. To channels 3 and 4 on a 68..... And to load ablton live sets/clips from the crates list using a 68/57
DVDjHardy 4:56 PM - 29 December, 2010
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I want the ableton (a) and (b) tracks to be routed seperately.


This is an existing feature in Ableton.
Evon 5:33 PM - 29 December, 2010
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This is an existing feature in Ableton.


How?
DVDjHardy 5:55 PM - 29 December, 2010
You just need a soundcard that allows multiple outputs. Once that's hooked up properly between your laptop and your mixer:

1. Open Ableton Live
2. Open Scratch Live
3. Open Ableton preferences
4. Under driver type, select your soundcard (not the serato driver) then select the proper in/out settings pertaining to your sound card.

This should allow you to route those channels individually.
Evon 9:11 PM - 29 December, 2010
Quote:
You just need a soundcard that allows multiple outputs. Once that's hooked up properly between your laptop and your mixer:

1. Open Ableton Live
2. Open Scratch Live
3. Open Ableton preferences
4. Under driver type, select your soundcard (not the serato driver) then select the proper in/out settings pertaining to your sound card.

This should allow you to route those channels individually.



Thanks! Any recommandations on what soundcard to use? Been trying to do this since the bridge came out. Tried to route the sound via serato to one channel and using my computer soundcard on the other channel without any luck :(
DVDjHardy 9:28 PM - 29 December, 2010
I use FW410 by M-Audio, but I think it's out of production now. I suggest one of these firewire-based units if you're on a Mac so you can still use a USB Midi controller: www.pssl.com

I haven't used any of those, but I would avoid Behringer and probably go with M-Audio based on my previous experience with their products.
BREAKFADER 5:30 AM - 4 January, 2011
Still waiting on the 8x5 grid view,
stevie o 1:33 AM - 6 January, 2011
word^

How about a tab button that shows a full ableton screen under the decks?
Satsun 1:56 AM - 6 January, 2011
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Still waiting on the 8x5 grid view,


Very necessary.
ancientyouth 4:41 PM - 11 January, 2011
I need a way to double/half the displayed serato bpm (or ableton's).......I have several samples/ tracks that are 70 bpm or 140bpm, depending on how serato was feeling the day I built overviews(just kidding). Basically I need an easy quick way to lock a serato track with a 70 bpm with say an ableton clip with 140bpm. Or does someone know how I can just do this quickly ( on the fly while I'm spinning).....
Dj Ace 6:15 AM - 12 January, 2011
yeah...just click on bpm field and option arrow up/down to half/double the bpm in serato
ancientyouth 3:38 PM - 12 January, 2011
I knew it was a simple thing like that!!! haha
MISTER RIPPER 3:48 AM - 16 January, 2011
one option that what make the bridge better is while u in grid edit mode the space bar still starts and stops play in offline player like it does when you are not in grid edit mode
Evon 12:08 PM - 16 January, 2011
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one option that what make the bridge better is while u in grid edit mode the space bar still starts and stops play in offline player like it does when you are not in grid edit mode


Yea I noticed this too +1
Dj Ace 2:11 AM - 17 January, 2011
i want to be able to use usb insert effects from ableton!
BREAKFADER 2:40 AM - 26 January, 2011
new update and still not a 8x5 grid option for the apc40.
Evon 3:52 PM - 26 January, 2011
New update? Where?
SKUT 12:34 PM - 27 January, 2011
Support for Vestax PMC05-PRO4 in Mixtape.
Or far all other "Midi Mixer", let the .als record all incoming MIDI data and we will affect the correct midi CC to Ableton's Crossfader, Fader and so on once the .als is open. Hope I make sense...
BREAKFADER 8:05 AM - 30 January, 2011
i want my red box back on the decks
Mutis 10:41 PM - 22 February, 2011
About Ms. Pinky maxforlive (clip scratching without warping):
createdigitalmusic.com
About Ms. Pinky Vst:
www.mspinky.com

About "other midi gear" implementation in the Bridge:
remotescripts.blogspot.com

About wishlist:
- The BrITCH.
- Midi/OSC output.
- Combination mode (python scripting) for ITCH/akai/novation controllers
nonplus 5:15 AM - 25 March, 2011
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About Ms. Pinky maxforlive (clip scratching without warping):
createdigitalmusic.com
About Ms. Pinky Vst:
www.mspinky.com
Quote:



how fucking dope would a serato vst be?.. i think theres some real possibilities in that.




Mutis 9:06 AM - 30 March, 2011
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Quote:


About Ms. Pinky maxforlive (clip scratching without warping):
createdigitalmusic.com
About Ms. Pinky Vst:
www.mspinky.com
Quote:




how fucking dope would a serato vst be?.. i think theres some real possibilities in that.





Or like this but improved, of course.

serato.com
DVDjHardy 12:30 PM - 30 March, 2011
How about making the grid markers within Serato flexible/fluid?
DVE 10:20 PM - 30 March, 2011
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How about making the grid markers within Serato flexible/fluid?


+1
thebuttonfreak 5:07 PM - 2 April, 2011
Allow us to use the Ableton as an internal mixer.
BleedR 9:39 AM - 16 April, 2011
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Quote:
MIDI Support for DJM800 the bridge.

Was very surprised and disappointed its only for Rane products no way in hell im buying Rane mixers just for that id rather switch DVS.

Sort it out guys


+1


+1
j_dim 3:06 AM - 20 April, 2011
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how about routing SL audio through Live to take advantage of Live's audio effects, device chains, max 4 live patches, etc?


Quote:
Allow us to use the Ableton as an internal mixer.


Quote:
i want to be able to use usb insert effects from ableton!


just allow us to use ableton effects/AU/VST's while using the bridge.

i know it can be done using a rane 68, but what if we only have a rane ttm 57.
BREAKFADER 4:09 AM - 3 June, 2011
i want the apc40 grid view for the 18million time. Red deck box. And able to tap tempo or even using a rotary knob with out having everything stutter. some wave to read the tempo of the clip, switch from dive to clip launch section "shift tab" like in ableton. have scratchlive reverse into ableton, somebody made a photoshop pic how it should look along time ago if i find it ill post it. crates will be on the left with a tab under the volume and device tabs. when scrolling through the songs will appear on the right where the view file manager is. " its a wishlist come on"
BREAKFADER 4:25 AM - 3 June, 2011
apc40 gridview vote ableton-serato.blogspot.com
ta2423 5:09 AM - 3 June, 2011
Personally I think it is what it is and isnt going to much further. I hope Im wrong several grand later.
BREAKFADER 5:59 AM - 3 June, 2011
Man I hope not
S4racen 8:35 AM - 3 June, 2011
Am i missing something, but isn't the APC40 red box already in Serato? It has to be selected as the first control surface in ableton as this then allows the serato screen view to move with the red box...

Please correct me if i'm wrong though as i'm not at home to test...

Cheers
D
BREAKFADER 10:18 AM - 3 June, 2011
Your right but when in bridge mode it's not a 8x5 grid.
S4racen 10:25 AM - 3 June, 2011
Ahh so you want the size of the grid on the screen to reflect the controller you have connected? So an 8x8 grid for a launchpad?

I'm frustrated with the fact the size isn't adjustable, i only have 4 tracks in Ableton yet it won't stretch these across giving me better visibility and i can't drag the size of the tracks to suit like i can in Ableton...

That said i'm really starting to dig the set up, gonna look into an SL4 to see if i can share it's interface across Ableton and Serato, i don't want the Ableton Audio to come out of a serato deck, i want to be able to run Abletons Master and Cue as seperate channels into a mixer with the remaining two channels being dedicated to serato....

Cheers
D
BREAKFADER 10:37 AM - 3 June, 2011
I agree with the track widening also. Now you see what I'm saying.
S4racen 10:39 AM - 3 June, 2011
Definitely....!
BREAKFADER 11:36 AM - 3 June, 2011
@ S4racen man all that script writing you know how too do. I'm surprised you haven't made up nothing for us yet, damn. If u want some ideas for it pm me
S4racen 11:38 AM - 3 June, 2011
Lol, it's all max4live, Serato's midi functionality is so basic but i can effectively create the Traktor like modifiers within M4L to create the midi messages to send through the virtual driver so anything should be possible really.... Just don't get any form of feedback for bidirectional control from Serato sadly...

I know the dicers get it but i'm not about to get into the core code, i'll leave that for others...

Cheers
D
Mutis 1:12 PM - 4 June, 2011
Breakfader try Ms. Pinky maybe is that you are searching...

The bridge for itch will be cool someday... :roll:
BREAKFADER 5:44 PM - 4 June, 2011
@mutis naw, what you reading.
Mutis 9:27 PM - 4 June, 2011
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have scratchlive reverse into ableton, somebody made a photoshop pic how it should look along time ago if i find it ill post it.



Do you know this?

createdigitalmusic.com

APC40 grid compatible (because is the grid from Ableton directly).
Scratchable (not warping but still useful)
etc...

but in other hand I really will love Bridge for ITCH (The BrITCH) soon...
;)
BREAKFADER 9:39 PM - 4 June, 2011
I have four too five years under my belt using both of these sexy ass apps together. Of course I know about that. When I get home next week, I plan on figuring it out myself. I'm not a programmer or a developer either.
Mutis 10:16 PM - 4 June, 2011
I advice you because maybe is the short way to obtain your goal instead expecting nothing from Rane/serato which is not going to "become".

Almost Ms. Pinky is near and user configurable... I'm user of Ms. Pinky since 8 years ago and Itch since this year so I will love Bridge for Itch but... I'm learning maxforlive too of course

;)
BREAKFADER 10:22 PM - 4 June, 2011
@Mutis watch yo mouth you need leave this forum talking about my brand like that. #seriously
Mutis 10:49 PM - 4 June, 2011
@Breakfader

This is a "common mantram" from regular users and some "mods". Take a look about ITCH 2.0 post and so.

That is not bad or good as POV from each user... at last we have a lot of tools from every brand waiting us for "make something".

As a new user of ITCH I'm talking about "our" software supplier (or you are working at Serato?), sorry if my opinion/advice dislike you (or any of the rest of users).

Pinky is far from perfect, Scratching Ableton clips is an Ableton concern, don't expect solutions from the wrong/not responsable side of the equation.

jm2c
Mutis 11:06 PM - 4 June, 2011
Just to clarify...

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Red deck box.


Ask Ableton or Akai.

Quote:
And able to tap tempo or even using a rotary knob with out having everything stutter.


In the Bridge? Ask Ableton more than Serato.

Quote:
some wave to read the tempo of the clip, switch from dive to clip launch section "shift tab" like in ableton.


Tempo clip: Ask Ableton.
Switch view: Serato task.

Quote:
have scratchlive reverse into ableton, somebody made a photoshop pic how it should look along time ago if i find it ill post it.


www.turntablog.skratch.es

Don't ask Serato about Scratching Ableton. The nearest solution at this moment is Pinky (since you mencioned the faked serato pic:).
The problem is at "Live Audio Engine". Maybe Serato could use "live feed" to... live feed? Third channel as a resampling deck for mix/scratch with the serato regular decks.

Quote:
crates will be on the left with a tab under the volume and device tabs. when scrolling through the songs will appear on the right where the view file manager is. " its a wishlist come on"


Crates from ableton library? Difficult due to the way of work from ALS files. These are XML files not really interaction between hard disk crates but, it is a great idea. Maybe is doable.

[quote=S4racen]i don't want the Ableton Audio to come out of a serato deck, i want to be able to run Abletons Master and Cue as seperate channels into a mixer with the remaining two channels being dedicated to serato...

Something like soundflower will be interesting (as a wishlist feature)
S4racen 1:18 PM - 5 June, 2011
Yeah you can't jack or soundfower seratos output like you can with Traktor....

Definitely a wish list....

Cheers
D
BREAKFADER 10:08 PM - 30 November, 2011
Group tracks, adjust track width , show timing on channel strip. A button to change grid from apc40 too launchpad.
Ziggenpuss 9:39 AM - 2 December, 2011
At least just an update to get it more stable would be nice...
Personally it's been too long and not enough done on updates and development..
Angry Birds has probably had more updates.. and what's that..?? 69p??
For the amount of money people, myself (Rane 68) included have forked out because they thought 'great idea, the possibilities etc..' To end up with a product that has had very little input for nearly a year.. c'mon get it sorted. This combined product could blow away a lot of what's on the market. But if it carries on being stagnant - it will be taken over by rival companies..
Razy 4:30 PM - 2 December, 2011
It would be great to move / copy / delete audio clips directly in scratch live !!!
Dj Ace 4:56 AM - 4 December, 2011
+1000 on this ^^^
oussDaPouss 2:42 PM - 25 January, 2012
Itch support in 2012... please...
BREAKFADER 3:48 PM - 20 November, 2012
Will we be good with ableton 9 when we upgrade. Or just have 2 instants of ableton to be safe. How bout flexible grid views in the GUI.
S4racen 3:51 PM - 20 November, 2012
On the beta of Live it states that the bridge isnt currently working but they are working with their partners to resolve this, i'm on the beta myself but it's difficult to talk about it due to a Non Disclosure Agreement we all had to sign...

Cheers
D
BREAKFADER 3:57 PM - 20 November, 2012
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On the beta of Live it states that the bridge isnt currently working but they are working with their partners to resolve this, i'm on the beta myself but it's difficult to talk about it due to a Non Disclosure Agreement we all had to sign...

Cheers
D

Sounds good to me.