I wanna see Pauly D get wrecked.

DJ P would school the majority of DJ's these days.

DJ P vs Pauly D would be the equivalent of a prime Mike Tyson vs 5 Year old.

ya i hope DJ P exposes Pauly D and shows the world he sucks and hes not a real dj....wait a minute......dosent the world already know he sucks and hes not a real dj.......didnt pauly d even admit to that already......whats this battle supposed to prove again??

not much, but it would be highly entertaining to watch.

I hope his 15 min of fame die out already.

I think Pauly D will win the best hairstyle !!!! Ha !!

Nah kidding but P will destroy him on the tables.

It makes sense for the clubs to get these celebrity DJs. People will wanna go and see someone they can brag to their friends about. It sucks, but it ain't about who's better anymore...... it's about who you know. Ex:
-Waka Flocka (Rapper) - His mom managed a bunch of Young Money People
-Pauly D - Jersey Shore
-Samantha Ronson - Dated Lindsay Lohan
-DJ AM - Yes he may be great, but he still dated Nicole Richie which helped blow him up.
-Jazzy Jeff - He is great, but the tv show "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" and his albums with Will Smith probably helped him with the limelight.
There are more that I can list, but I think I've proved my point

its all about how many people will come and see you and bring their money to spend to see *insert wack dj* at their club

Watchwww.youtube.com

your showing some lack of knowledge on these 2

dj p will smack that bitch fallie d up

You forgot Dj-M.Bezzle. His posts on ScratchLive.net never got him nowhere.

lol

Whoaaaaa Lewshis, better check this statement^^ you just made.

Jazzy Jeff is a pioneer in the hip hop DJ / turntablist scene, most notably for the transform scratch. He never had an album with "Will Smith". Before Will Smith was going only as Will Smith, he was Fresh Prince. And Jazzy Jeff was a duo with him, and if you ever listened to their songs when they were a duo, you'll realize that their DJ/MC relationship was balanced, earning them the first Grammy award for Best Rap Album.

His role in the TV show The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air was only a recurring role and it certainly did not put him in the limelight. And who the hell is Waka Flocka?!

Yeah right...

This like rappers who are not selling records starting beef with rappers who are topping charts..

But good strategy..

I didn't say it put him in the limelight. I said it helped. I already knew about their Grammy, that he pioneered the transformer, etc. But most of the public are not going to see him because he was a pioneer of the transformer. I wish that is how everyone thought, but it's not.
And Waka Flocka has done songs with Drake, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, etc. I think he might even be part of Young Money.

The only reason I've heard of Samantha Ronson is because of Lindsay Lohan. And I just stated key points that the public would know about Jazzy Jeff.

hey i am kinda like a legend on the streets and i owe it all to my SL posts

wrong again, he is the son of Debra Antney, Gucci Mane's manager and CEO of So Icey/Mizay Entertainment and has nothing to do with lil wayne or young money

DJ P is one of my favorites!

Polly D's agent would never let him battle...

and samantha ronson rode the coat tails of TONS of people before dating linsey LOL

Oh really? I heard she was the manager of Nicki Minaj too, who rolls with Young Money.


Like I said I only heard of her because of Lindsay.

Don't pay to get in clubs anymore, but I'd pay and wait in line for this one!!!! LOL

I've known P for like 15 years or so. We grew up in the same town, got the same circle of friends and rocked a few of the same parties. He let me barrow his needles in my first DJ competition back in 99, which I will never forget. Most DJ's would never do that. And then he kicked all of are asses in the battle. I would love to see DJ P show and prove.

But with that said let me say some on the other side of things.I don't have any problems with Pauly D. Is it true that he gets paid, laid and way more hype then he probable should. Yeah. Are there DJ's out there that have paid more dues, dedicating there entire lives to the art of DJing that have more skills than anyone could even imagine getting completely ignored? Yeah. While I totally understand getting upset over the issue, I personally could give 2 shits less. Life ain't fair. If looking like a jackass and being on some cheesy show gets you famous DJ status then fine, whatever. True music enthusiast know were the respect belongs.


In a few years P will be rockin parties just like he has for years. Pauly D will be done by then.

Nuff said. (Damn, I type to much.)

I hope Pauly beats everyone legitimately and give all of you the finger.

I will laugh...til the Corona squirts outta my nose.

Hope in one hand, and shit in the other... and see which gets full first!

This X's 10000000000!

Not sure what that means.

What you said X's (times) a lot! Meaning I agree 100%

I just want to clarify that Waka Flaka is from New York. Please don't associate that whack rapper to Atlanta. We have enough whack rappers as it is.

As far as Pauly D goes. We all know that DJ P is a nasty dj and a funny guy, but this is kinda pointless and in the end it just brings more attention to Pauly D.

he did move to riverdale when he was 9....just sayin

Wouldnt it be funny if DJ P just pees on PAULY D? LOL

P is a dope DJ and a cool dude. Pauly don't want wanna see P.

P could kill Pauly D in a battle based on skills

But Pauly D would bring in 10x more people just based on his name. That's all club owners/promoters care about.

......ehhh guys hes got a point

so who would you rather have as a resident DJ?
After the novelty of seeing Pauly D wears off, all you're left with is a whack DJ and bad club atmosphere.
P will consistently rock it and keep people entertained and on the dance floor long after Paulys 15 mins are up.

I've seen this before and never get tired of watching it.

in that situation i want Pauly until his novelty wears off then i fire pauly and hire P

if would refresh the clubs atmosphere

what's funny is if they chose the winner by crowd participation...guess who would win....

in that situation, you have the choice to choose 1... not get the best of both worlds.
Once people have seen Pauly for a few days in a row it's over and so is the vide. I'll take the cat who's been holding shit down for yrs and will continue to do so... fuck a flash in the pan, I'll take longevity!

but pauly can pull off all the easter eggs in serato...... bam /end of battle

+1 That's what I was trying to explain

Oh, I see. Sorry, I'm a littlr slow at times.

what? pauly D would smash anyone anytime. have you seen his skills? he can cut and blend all day.






i meant his hair.

didnt know there was a second girl involved

Yes. He dated Nicole Richie, Mandy Moore, and Haley Wood. (at different times of course :p)

part of me hopes that pauly accepts just so P can get more exposure. It's actually kind of criminal how few people actually know about him.

Man was one of my bigger influences...

What would Pauly D, or 90% pf today's "DJs" do, if you covered their waveforms?
All I'm saying, I see way too much browsing and staring at the screen at clubs nowadays.
And only little, if no, interaction with the crowd...

However, name=people=fast money.
And on the same note; skills=longevity=even more money.

Think about that,
club promoters...

THANK YOU... somebody has some damn sense and vision of the bigger picture to go along with it.
I'd rather get paid a lot of money for a long time than a whole lot of money for a little time.

Guaranteed it would bead right off his gel/grease outer layer.

I don't look up a lot of DJs and mostly just ck out those posted on this forum. That's the kind of stuff I'd like to do. I don't get into the DMC routines too much; that video shows mad talent.



I second what Soo was saying about his exposure. Look at his views. It's a shame that more people haven't seen or don't get to see him.

Did I just read that someone in this thread thought that Jazzy Jeff's DJ profile was raised in large part due to guest appearances on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?!

Wow. SMGDMFH.

lmao no. I didn't say it was largely because of his guest appearances on the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I said it was a combination of his albums with Will Smith and the Fresh Prince of Bel Air show that PROBABLY helped.

Watchwww.youtube.com

i love P. I can't believe i've still never seen him live...

ha ha I forgot about tis cat, dam check out this video,
Watchwww.youtube.com
he really breakes it down on the floor and on the decks

One of the most on point comments I've read in a long time. It's not about being the best, it's about being the most popular, and that's what the vote is all about.

It's a simple formula - Footfall x bar takings = happy promoter.

It goes without saying that many of us could school Pauly D on the decks. But that's not the point at all. You're all thinking like DJs, but the best DJ vote is for the club punter and what they like. And in this respect, if Pauly D fills more clubs and keeps more people entertained, then he has every chance of winning.

But the vote should be called most popular DJ, because Pauly D could never be considered on any list of best DJs.

i love this video!!!
Watchwww.youtube.com

hahahaha!!!

DJ Pauly Duche dosnt even belong on this list or light years from it..

www.americasbestdj.net

i officially am starting to get tired of djing..
i feel it useless now..
;(

+1

Naw just do dirty things with a celebrity and you'll make it.

lol..
its either there's too fucking many of them, too maney instant DJ Hero or DJ in a Box Duches or Fake ass Celebs thinking they a Dj's...

its too saturated with posers

I know what your sayin.

1. You haters are getting old real quick on this. Pauly D gets booked bc he's gets paying customers in the door. If you blew up bc of something like Jersey Shore, you would take the bookings in Vegas, even if you didn't think you were ready. You're lying if you say otherwise.

If you ran a club you would want to know how to get people in the door, not how to get the guy that has mastered every scratch available that only djs would appreciate Yes Pauly D sucks, but he is getting paid. When you get your break people will hate on you too!

2. If you think that everyone who pays to see Jazzy Jeff does it bc of his DJ skills, you are an idiot, period. People on this board, yes. 99.999999999% of other people, no. Fresh Prince still gets people to pay and see him.

If you guys would take a step back from being in that .000001% of people I'm the world that are djs you would realize that.

I swear I wish the mods would just auto lock every Pauly D thread.

me personally..im not mad at him getting his chowder.
im just alittle upset that peeps who do this for a living, have paid there dues, who lives this..this is there life. never see shit! (im not mad becuse i havnt made it) but i just hate when some fuckin nobody..having no fucking clue about music, the lifestlye, the strugle who just desided to get serato or whatever and thinks hes the new AM or whatever..
he needs his hair cliped..

Hmmm... I'm pretty sure the vote is for best DJ not most popular person... is he the most popular DJ or just the most popular PERSON on that list? He is not popular from being a DJ... he is popluar for being on a tv show.
It's not a most popular award, it's a best DJ award.

He is NOT drawing that crowd off of his DJing... feel me? (no homo)
It's like a car accident or a burning building.... it's (he's) not good but people will stop and stare... but it's NOT based off of his DJ skills (or lack there of) it's based off of his being a celebrity from a tv show.

Did ANYBODY give a f*ck about him or even know who he was as a DJ before that show? NO so that Best DJ nomination is NOT based on him being a DJ so it's not fair or right. It's a slap in the face of all the real cats who put in work as a DJ on that list and desirve it and it should be addressed.

1. club owner wants more money
2. he needs more people in his club to spend money on cover and drinks
3. Decides to throw an event that will draw people in ti his club.
4. Pauly D is packing clubs all over the country
5. Club owner decides that it would be a good idea to book him to bring people in


as much as i hate it, i understand it.

So are you saying that the person that wins best DJ is always the best technically speaking?

Didn't think so.

If it gets voted on, it's a popularity contest, plain and simple.

Bottom line is this: move on with your lives people. If you want to get superstar status keep up your hustle and don't worry about Pauly D. Once Jersey Shore is over he will be but dust in the wind, and you guys can bitch about some other guy/girl that you think is getting more props than you believe are deserved.

Here's the thing - because it's a public vote, it's all about being most popular. Having run a couple of public vote comps myself, I know how stilted and wrong these types of things can be. Pauly D has a crapload of fans because of Jersey Shore. He has an entourage of people who will ensure that as many people as possible vote for him. His manager and whoever makes the TV program will do their damnedest to make sure that they can put "featuring America's best DJ" in the trailers to the show. Because it's public, it's all about popularity.

On a level playing field, where DJs were voted for by other DJs to crown the best, Pauly D wouldn't even figure anywhere. And being voted for by your peers is guaranteed to get a valid and believable result. But where the public can vote, the end result is irrelevant. It's all about who can summon up the most support - regardless of skills on the deck.

in order for these contests to be taken seriously, it should be like the DMCs with real judges who know what to look/listen for...

+1 THANK YOU.

This is crazy, instead of challenging him why don`t you call out someone you respect and let your skills do the talking, all the hate I have read from the lame comments regarding Jazzy Jeff or Wacka Flacka lame is gay...With anything that involves talent there will always be haters who feel they can do much better, you have guys that play ball in the street but feel they are better than Kobe but when its time to play In a controlled setting they cant handle it. Its the same with DJ`s if Pauly is getting his, let him shine...as long as the hair gel does not go to his brain and he start calling ppl out let him live. No one here has ever even heard of me but one year of my resume would kill careers but i`m humble and I sit back and observe so I can always learn from other DJ`s. and yes I feel I`m better than 90% of dudes on here but hey who cares what I think? D.J.P is nice on a lot of levels but he still would not be able to rock certain places like the old "Tunnel" in NYC becuz he does not have the swag of a Funk Master Flex. that does not mean flex is better or worse it just means theres a time and place for every DJ.

So let Pauly D go in, now if that b!tch snookie gets on then we have a problem....son was a DJ before the shore and after his 15 mins is up he will need something to fall back on, envy and being catty is for bitches, there`s enuff room for all levels of being a dj, Id never be that wedding dude playing the electric slide but if someone enjoys his music and he`s making cake, more power to him because at the end of the day its all about the music and not American idol.

^^This made me laugh

Lol

I feel you... (no homo, just bro yo)
I just have a hard time with it if they are gonna call the award "Best" DJ... they should change it to reflect what it really is then... most popular person who happens to DJ but not necessarily be good at it award. Then I wouldn't have problem with it.

I really dont think anyone goes to see jeff spin just because he was on the fresh prince. His character wasnt that big and i dont think most people who just watched the show even know hes a DJ. If you look at the crowds jeff draws its typically not the "hey theres a celebrity spinning lets go get a picture crowd"....In either case I think more people associate him with the will smith albums....i mean he was pretty damn famous before that show even started

Bezzle just summed up what I was going to say. if you think people go to see Jeff because he was a 5th stringer on a 90's TV show you're the idiot. Jeff has his own crowd and has been doing that shit from time. Maybe YOU think he's big because of that shit, but backpacker keep it realers don't give a shit about any TV show where he wasn't even portrayed as a Dj. And LOL @ Lewshis co-signing, dude you had to be told that you're not supposed to leave the rubber mats on your turntables. You have no say.

That being said I don't mind the other guys point 1. I really don't get the Pauly D fascination around here, he's irrelevant to me.

Dj P. I never knew about him until these boards, but I'm a fan. He is a Dj's Dj. Who ever the fuck he wants to call out, I'll clap my hands when he does it. Like I said, I don't really care about the Pauly D situation, but from a Dj's stand point, I co-sign what P is doing. It may not make a difference to the sheep, but I dig it.

Holly F@#king S@%t. I just happen to see this thread about DJP and wondered if this was the same DJP that I used to watch rock the house when I was in college in Missouri. I had heard that he went on to play in Vegas, I think it was Studio 54. I click on the link at the top and sure as shit it's him.

This guy was doing mashups back in the mid 90's. He was mashing Enya and Run DMC, Sting and Public Enemy. He was amazing! I can't imagine how good he is now. He definitely paid his dues playing the bars in Springfield such as the Burgundy Room.

Ah, nothing like an old school battle.

Yeah i remember one episode jeff was playing drums. He was talented way before the show.

OK, that's who i thought you was talking about. One year DJ P made it to the DMC USA finals (God it was like in the late 90's) and DJ P, came from behind the turntables, and started BREAKING!!! If you find the footage of that shit, please post that shit! From that second forward DJ P was like my favorite muh fucka. What kind of heart does it take to first of all get in a battle with Roli Rho, P-Trix, Goddamn DJ Slice!!! There was some heavy hitters there that year (that was the year that P-Trix won). DJ P actually "mixed" throughout his 6 minutes...not beat juggle or nothing...just mix, AND HE KILLED IT! If you're going to battle DJ P come prepared.

Here he goes:

Watchwww.youtube.com

You will thoroughly enjoy this!

That's my favorite P video. CRAZE stuff right there!

Oh damn...I still have this on a VHS tape from back then...That was the best part of the tape..lol I didnt know this was the same DJP.

You guys can be ignorant to the fact that Jeff draws people bc of his time on Fresh Prince and his DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince releases all you want, but it's a fact. Not every person scours YouTube to check out his latest battle routine.

I feel like I'm taking crazy people right now.

crazy pills that is. The no edit function is the best part of this board lol

you are. you are.

"yo let's go check out dj jazzy jeff tonight. remember him? he was the dude that uncle phil was always throwing out the front door!"

you can keep on throwing all this "fact" on us but that's definitely not how its goin down with the parties that i've seen the man spin at. before 'fresh prince.." and after "fresh prince.." he's a well respected dj and party rocker and that's why people come out to see him play.



just on the strength of that comment alone, i already know you spout mad ignorance. kindly exit the thread and up your DJ knowledge please

SOME People go see him because of that but check it.... the first time you heard of Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince.... who's name did you hear first? That's right... JAZZY JEFF.
You may have been to young at the time they first came out but they initially got over because of Jeff and the hype surrounding him about being such a dope DJ! He had just won the NMS Battle For World Supremacy and at that time in Hip Hop, DJ's that could really get down were very popular. Also, what was the name of their second album.... the one that gained them multi platinum status.... oh yea, He's the DJ, I'm the rapper. Just like the name if their group, the focus on the DJ came first. Jeff was not some side kick. When they came out, the main focus was on him! Jeff can pull a crowd off of his name and efforts alone... don't get it twisted. Sure some people will go see him because he was on a show with Will but he gets over on his own.

Can we rest the Jazzy Jeff issue?

Jazzy Jeff is one of the greatest. Hopefully I can speak for some of us. I was a hiphop fan before I was a dj. My first experience with Jazzy Jeff was the Jazzy Jeff Fresh Prince album. to be honest, I bought the album for the Fresh Prince cuz I was digging parent just don't understand. While listening to the casette, Jazzy did a bunch of tracks where he was featured. Shit, I thought he was dope but I bugged out on the Ready Rock track and his beat boxing.

Most regular people didn't know Jazzy was a champion dj. Most dj and aspiring djs do. Did being on the show make him more popular? hell yes. Does it diminish his skill or put him to next Pauly D? Hell no.

the truth is somewhere in the middle of all your arguments.

THANK YOU.

BTW lol at any jackass telling me I need to up my DJ knowledge. Go f yourself.

I have the utmost respect for Jeff, but to say that he doesn't have a leg up on a DJ that has ONLY ever been a DJ and not a tv personality/recording artist. Go back through this thread and tell me where I disrespected Jeff anywhere.

Jesus

damn man... stop disrespecting JJ kryp... seriously.... ;)

DJ P is one of my all time favorites...

He can perform amazing sets with records from 20+ yrs. ago, and makes it way more fun to listen to, instead of resorting to playing all the latest new crap that is getting shoved down our throats...

+1

It's funny, I check this site all the time. DJ P and Pauly are on the home page. Pee's in the hall of fame. If you ain't seen this is't before check it out it's hilarious.


djfameorshame.com

His 15 minutes of fame has turned into a half hour, as the show has a 2nd season. If he's smart, he'll learn to REALLY DJ in that time.

To me, that's what this is REALLY about....

Dude may be a legit DJ, but it's obvious that he will kill Pauly D in a battle, on a TECHNICAL level.

But, if the "battle" is based on CROWD RESPONSE, he's a gonner.

Pauly D's handlers won't let that happen tho.

lmao I was just about to post that

Y'all buggin'

Jazzy Jeff was introduced to the WORLD because of Girl Of The World are nothing but trouble and Parents Just Don't Understand.

He became a household name (Jazz) because of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

He was introduced to US DJ's as the guy who changed the DMC. Unfortunately, he ONLY would still be known as just a DMC winner if he hadn't been put ON by Will Smith who was ALWAYS about "Look at my DJ".

Remember that special where Jazz used that "I Wanna Rock Right Now" from Rob Base, in front of all those white people (no offense) on TV?

He used a WIDELY ACCEPTED CROSSOVER SONG, and DJ'ed in a fashion that ANYBODY could understand, and could embrace.

Then you have the JMJ tribute? OMG, again in front of a BUNCH of people, ripping it.

Don't get it twisted, Jazzy is the Best DJ on earth, but his association with Will Smith, who was doing Men in Black, Independence Day, and all those other Multimillion dollar movies, helped keep Jeff in the public's view.

Ask your parents how they know "Jazzy Jeff".

^^ +1

As a matter of fact, Jeff's visibility got turned up when he started using Serato, - Remember this vid? ---->Watchwww.youtube.com

And the BEST thing Jazz did for exposure which solidified his "return" was this vid with him and DJ AM --->>> Watchwww.youtube.com

DJ AM already had that celebrity crossover crowd, and now they not only see Jeff alongside him, but how much more better (no offense) he was as far as technical ability is concerned.

When did Jeff when the DMC?

Oh my god. That was horrible. What would happen to him if serato wasn't around? he was using the computer more than the turntables

I do believe it was 1986 for the DMC New Music Seminar.

“Jazzy Jeff” Townes was born in West Philadelphia in a very musical household and developed a love of music at an early age. Jeff was just 10 years old when he started spinning records at parties using his family’s basement as a training ground for his expert mixing. By the time Jeff had made it to John Bartram High his skills as a DJ had progressed to a level that had him doing shows on the block party/ballroom circuit in West Philadelphia. It was through these shows that he quickly built a reputation, which had him spinning all over his hometown. It was not just Jeff’s ear for good music that had the party moving but his mastery of scratching techniques. Never a showman, Jeff let his hands do the talking. Jazzy Jeff was technically very sound and rarely made a mistake. The precise percussive elements that Jeff brought to scratching quickly gained him a following. Jeff rolled with many crews and emcees around Philly but it was 1985 when he met Will Smith on the house party circuit. Jeff’s regular MC was away so Will stepped on the mic and the chemistry was instant. They shared the same kind of humor and hit it off straight away. By the summer of 1986 Will and Jeff had teamed up to released their first single, “Girl’s Ain’t Nothin But Trouble” as DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince. “Girls Ain’t Nothing But Trouble” was the first hip-hop song to sample a TV show theme, “I Dream of Jeannie” and it soon began to chart. During this time, Jazzy Jeff entered in the 1986 DMC New Music Seminar. The Philly DJ wasn’t known as a battle DJ but his routines were so impressive he walked away with the Championship.

Having made their mark on the music seminar in just a year of forming Jive/Zomba bought out the initial word up record contract that Will and Jeff had signed. Now on a major label, DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince’s debut album Rock The House was released in 1987. Rock The House contained one of the first hip-hop records dedicated to the DJ, “The Magnificent Jazzy Jeff.” On the record Jeff displayed all his skills, he also popularized the “transformer scratch” by being the first to put it in on a record. Jazzy Jeff’s own invention the “chirp scratch” was also displayed in which Jeff would make the record sound like a bird. The album also contained “A Touch of Jazz” which was one of the first Jazz/Rap Records released. The duo’s sound caught on and Rock The House went Gold.

In 1988 DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince followed up “Rock The House” with “He’s the DJ, I’m the Rapper.” The record was one of the first hip hop double LP’s. The first side focused on Fresh Prince’s storytelling while the second side focused on Jazzy Jeff’s DJ’ing prowess. The second single from the album, “Parent’s Just Don’t Don’t Understand” became a huge hit, creating hip-hop crossover and gaining regular play on MTV. The success of the single propelled He’s the DJ to one of the greatest selling rap albums of the time, quickly going double platinum. The record was one of the first to pay serious homage to the DJ and Jeff’s scratches were heard worldwide. It inspired many young listeners to pick up the Turntables and emulate what Jeff was doing. Many DJ’s to this day cite those early DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince albums as a reason they become a DJ in the first place.

During the success of the duos second album they launched the world’s first pop star 900 number. Fans would ring in to get the latest on Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince, and by January 1989 3 million calls had been logged. They phone line actually made them more money than they were getting from their record sales.

In 1989 DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince released their gold selling 3rd album “And in this Corner.” The 2nd single from the album, “The Groove” featured a remix with Grover Washington Jr. This was one of the first collaborations between a Jazz artist and a hip-hop group.

Meanwhile Jazzy Jeff continued to advance the DJ art form. He became the first corporately sponsored DJ and he designed the first mixer for scratching the “Gemini 2200” or Jazzy Jeff Signature Series.

In 1990 the Fresh Prince hooked up with Quincy Jones and NBC to star in the sitcom, “The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.” Jeff joined the Fresh Prince on the TV show and played Will’s best friend “Jazz” for the shows entire 6 year run. While Jeff’s first love was music he excelled in the TV role and quickly became a fan favorite.

As The Fresh Prince of Bel Air began Jeff decided to set up his own production Facility, “A Touch of Jazz,” in 1990. A Touch of Jazz was created to tap into and develop the musical talent in Jeff’s hometown of Philadelphia. Young producers such as James Poyser and Vikter Duplaix soon joined the fold and began working on various projects. In 1990 Jeff also featured on the Simpson’s Sing the Blues album co-writing “Deep, Deep Trouble” with Matt Groening and producing the record.

In 1991 Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince released their 4th album, “Homebase.” It featured the now classic, “Summertime” which went to ..4 on the Pop charts and in 1993 Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince released their fifth album, “Code Red.” It featured the song, “Boom! Shake the Room” which was the 3rd rap single to go to number 1 in the UK. The song went to number 1 all through Europe and Asia. By this time Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince had released 5 albums in 7 years, sold 14 million records together, and won 2 Grammy and 3 American Music Awards.

As Will began to focus on his Television and movie career Jeff continued working on developing A Touch of Jazz. Also, in 1993 Jeff became a spokesman for Starter Gear appearing in the now infamous adds alongside stars such as Rodney Dangerfield and Janet Jackson.

A Touch of Jazz worked on Will Smith’s first solo album, “Big Willie Style” in 1997. In 1998 Jazzy Jeff signed a solo deal with Columbia Records. He recorded an album for the label, which featured tracks with artists such as Masta Ace, Eminem and De La Soul. Unfortunately, Sony chose to shelve the hip-hop work, wanting something more “commercial.”

This setback didn’t stop Jeff from continuing his production work with A Touch of Jazz. In 1998 they worked with artists such as Tatyana Ali and Kenny Lattimore. In 1999 Jazzy Jeff and A Touch of Jazz produced Will Smith’s second solo album “Willennium.”

In 2000, A Touch of Jazz worked on an album by a soul singer from Philly, named Jill Scott. The entire album was recorded at A Touch of Jazz and Jazzy Jeff served as Executive Producer. “Who is Jill Scott” was released with little fanfare, but strong word of mouth pushed the album to double platinum sales. The album garnered A Touch of Jazz worldwide recognition 10 years after Jazzy Jeff had started the production facility. Soon A Touch of Jazz was working with artists such as Musiq Soulchild, Dave Hollister, City High, Floetry, Lil Kim & Michael Jackson.

Jeff was busy overseeing A Touch of Jazz for these years but in late 2001 a small label from the UK, BBE asked Jeff to produce a solo album as part of their beat generation series which focused on producers. Jeff was given full creative control something he couldn’t get at Sony and jumped into the project.

His first solo album “The Magnificent” was released in August 2002. The album featured Jeff’s trademark scratches and a variety of emcees and artists who were working at A Touch of Jazz. The album contained hip-hop, soul and house tracks that displayed Jeff’s versatility as an artist and producer. The album proved a success for the independent label.

With the success of “The Magnificent” promoters started calling and Jeff went out touring to promote the album in 2003. Jeff had come full circle, back spinning records just like in the beginning of his career.

In 2004 Jazzy Jeff released his first official mix CD, “Hip Hop Forever II” for BBE. The album showcased Jeff’s trademark mixing skills and many underground and overlooked hip-hop classics. In November 2004 Jeff released another mix CD, “Jazzy Jeff In the House” a house mix for Defected. DJ Jazzy Jeff’s philosophy has always been for a DJ to play all kinds of music. On “In the House” he showed he could mix house just as good as he mixes hip-hop or soul music. Jeff also continued touring the world, spinning all throughout Europe, Asia and America.

In 2005 Jeff continued his 20-year collaboration with Will Smith working on Will’s fourth solo release “Lost & Found.” The album features production and scratches from Jazzy Jeff. Jeff & Will have also been back performing together again at various shows and premieres. Jeff also began working on his second solo album, “The Return of the Magnificent.”

Jazzy Jeff continues to represent the DJ throughout his records, mix tapes, and live shows. His love of music shines through on all projects, whether it’s with Will Smith, Jill Scott or his own solo records. Over the course of his career Jeff has achieved many accomplishments, but he is a humble man who is still doing it as his 2002 hit said “For Da Love of Da Game.” And with that approach he will continue doing what he loves for as long as he wants

This is the reason why people go and see Jazzy Jeff, not because of the sitcom he cameo'd in, you silly folks.

www38.zippyshare.com
(low quality, not a complete song file)

This is from their first Grammy winning album. And this is how to party rock!

BIGWIZ was asking a rhetorical question. Jazzy Jeff never won DMC. Not a US or World Title, anyway.

FYI, DMC and NMS were two completely separate organizations.

Yeah, I know he was trying to be SLICK, but, that's why I posted the article FROM Jeff's OWN SITE.

www.djjazzyjeff.com

So, you guys can argue with Jeff how it's "technically" listed...

And I quote

Bigwiz got me ONCE, it ain't happenin' no mo.

yea, enough about jazzy jeff - he already has a bunch of his own threads.

and yea, fuck pauly D

lets talk more about P!

Watchwww.youtube.com

I don't see all they hype behind DJ P, to be honest. I can appreciate his early Rock mashups, but, that's about it.

I had already mentioned that Jeff won the New Music Seminar Battle for World Supreamacy... that is not the DMC though. I can copy and paste something from somewhere but that doesn't make it the truth just because someone typed it on the internet.

Please stop talking about this guy.
You are adding view to his youtube videos and spreading his name all around the world...it's your fault he's getting 30.000 a night.

LMFAO....yes jeff draws people because of the fresh prince releases, you wanna know why.....cause he was DJING on the fresh prince releases.....thats like saying people onlty go to see jay z live because he recorded a several hit albums

His youtube hits aint why hes getting 30,000 a night and this forum isnt spreading his name around the world....this forum could shut down tomarow and his shows still going to broadcast inseveral different languages on MTV

All I KNOW is that it's in writing. :-)

alot of really old people tend to think that just because somethings written on the internet it means its 100% true, its like that because their used to the days when written sources of information were fact checked and dont realise anyone can post anything on the interwebz, no point in arguing with them you just have to smile knod and let them get back to drinking their prune juice and yelling at the neighborhood kids for playing to close to their lawn

en.wikipedia.org

a dope pic of jeff

Or better yet, those who are inefficient in life CLING to the internet and truly believe that those are his REAL friends in life, but can't even handle his "goil" gettin' out of pocket and slobbin' his promoter down, and drankin' his kids.

Some need to click the "X" sometimes.

smiles and knods

It would be interesting to see Johnny and Bezzle in a room together(nh) - I wonder if Internet talk is just Internet talk :)

Who would say something, who would be quiet or would both just avoid each other? Hmmmm...

Everyone who has commented on this thread is a DJ am I correct?.....stop hating and debating and practice your craft....some of the greatest DJ`s ever have never been in the lime light but get respected where it counts. Do they care if Pauly D can DJ or not?...hell no bcuz they are from an era when DJ`s were in the fore front in hip hop, disco or what ever, these days rappers dont even use DJ`s unless its for a show or mixtape, so if any DJ is getting paid I say more power to him.

You guys forget or just dont know there are soooooo many types and levels of being a DJ, most "turntablist" could not hold it down in a club, bcuz his tricks would go over ppl`s head and most club goers are`nt into that but that does not mean he`s garbage, Jazzy Jeff is one of the greatest on all levels but put him in a reggae club (sound clash) against Bobby Konders and its a wrap...he would be out of his element. Jazzy Jeff is the man period, Just like DJP is the man on his block and im sure the poster above me is then man on his.

Bottom line stop hating on dudes like Pauly D bcuz he`s not out there spitting garbage about being the best, and if somewhere inside that moussed up head he does not THINK he`s the best then whats the point?...No matter what you do in life your supposed to feel and strive to be the best. Im sure he`s not talking about how he can kick garbage cans better for a living just because some of you guys have to and still havent gotten your 15 mins yet.

I`m not trying to offend but being negative about another dude or debating what has helped someone else career is really some hoe ass, desperate house wife, high school musical ish. For that matter I should be on blogs getting at Bill Gates becuz I think im a better business man and his monopoly with windows wont allow me to make the kind of bread I want....f*uck outta here, in the time it takes to hate I could be making improvements and step my game up....Again get your weight up and add something to the culture.

im sure it could be arranged, dont most nursing homes have volenteer programs where you go and keep the elderly company...you know read em storys and listen to them retell they stories from their glory days about how they waited outside in the snow for days just to get a chance at a gig and be somebody and how much better djing was back int heir day before you had to get all these fandangled computers and pushidy buttons...you know just keep em occupied so their not spending their days on the internet bitching at all the young wippersnappers and driving around town at 10 mph with their left blinker on

true that, one thing you can say about the kid is hes taking it all in stride. It takes alot of kahones to be a joke and recieve the amount of hate he does and still walk around with his chin up and walk into huge clubs you KNOW you dont need to be playing at and still perform as if your there on yuor talent.

On the flip side of the coin though theres nothing wrong with calling a wack dj wack or discussing the state of our culture. If anything this thread was less about pauly d sucking and more about DJ P which is a positive thing to me

Everyone who has commented on this thread is a DJ am I correct?.....stop hating and debating and practice your craft....some of the greatest DJ`s ever have never been in the lime light but get respected where it counts. Do they care if Pauly D can DJ or not?...hell no bcuz they are from an era when DJ`s were in the fore front in hip hop, disco or what ever, these days rappers dont even use DJ`s unless its for a show or mixtape, so if any DJ is getting paid I say more power to him.

You guys forget or just dont know there are soooooo many types and levels of being a DJ, most "turntablist" could not hold it down in a club, bcuz his tricks would go over ppl`s head and most club goers are`nt into that but that does not mean he`s garbage, Jazzy Jeff is one of the greatest on all levels but put him in a reggae club (sound clash) against Bobby Konders and its a wrap...he would be out of his element. Jazzy Jeff is the man period, Just like DJP is the man on his block and im sure the poster above me is then man on his.

Bottom line stop hating on dudes like Pauly D bcuz he`s not out there spitting garbage about being the best, and if somewhere inside that moussed up head he does not THINK he`s the best then whats the point?...No matter what you do in life your supposed to feel and strive to be the best. Im sure he`s not talking about how he can kick garbage cans better for a living just because some of you guys have to and still havent gotten your 15 mins yet.

I`m not trying to offend but being negative about another dude or debating what has helped someone else career is really some hoe ass, desperate house wife, high school musical ish. For that matter I should be on blogs getting at Bill Gates becuz I think im a better business man and his monopoly with windows wont allow me to make the kind of bread I want....f*uck outta here, in the time it takes to hate I could be making improvements and step my game up....Again get your weight up and add something to the culture.

No words would be spoken, he girl would just come over give me head, and then spit it in his face, or tongue kiss him, as usual.

Nothing new.

What I find strange is how a whack DJ (Bezzle) can call somebody ELSE a whack DJ.

hahahaha

Please like I would would give your ugly ass the time of day, I saw the pic you posted of your wife and she was so ugly you didnt even have the guts to show her face in the pic, at least bezz wasnt ashamed of who he was with, bezzles more man than youll ever be and you really need to mind your own busniess and keep my name out of your god damn mouth cause your speaking on things you know nothing about.

Wow, so it looks like you HAVE been kissing him with the next man's sperm in your mouth.

Trust, my WIFE runs CIRCLES around your Raggedy Ann lookin azz.

Oh, and Bezz isn't ASHAMED of who he is with? The HOE who was gargling his PROMOTERS BALLS? LMAO..

Oh, no he's not ashamed of you. He's PROUD that you can multitask by not only promoting your slutness, but actually putting it to good use to attract people to the club!

Oh, nobody knows he was "PIMPING" you to attract dudes to the club?

lol.

You both are Cuckolds.

You kow what I'm saying?


Dudes...we BEEN saying that the albums were a part of that. Jeff is booked on the strength of his Djing, because he has ALWAYS been a DJ and was known to millions as one before any TV show. Maybe a handful of idiots go see him because he was a glorified extra on Bel Air, but there is a whole world of people who go out to see Jeff because of his music, the type of music that Jeff makes (outside of Will Smith) breeds an entirely different fan base that is not concerned with the superficial aspets of the scene. Even look at the article Johnny posted...



The article is basically spelling it out that production was Jeff's main concern for a lot of years, and when he came back to Djing full time, it wasn't because of any Hollywood bullshit.

:-)

We weren't saying WHY he came back, we were saying WHY he is well known.

And the BEST PART is that you're STILL here giving us GREAT material.

lmao @ you having INVERTED PICS......and trying to be sexy with clothes that look like you and Walmart got into a REALLY BAD fight about fashion.

And you LOST.


lololololololololol!

Dude, like I said...there may be a handful of superficial tards that go to see him because they think James Avery is going to throw him out of the Dj booth, but there are a millions of people out there that don't, The celebrity world isn't actually the entire world, Hollywood is but a small piece of it and while those involved in that world think it's the entire Universe, to a lot of people it doesn't even exist. The last thing you're going to get is stampedes of backpackers out beause of TV rerun celebrity status.

Holy random Batman!

LOL where did that come from?

Back on (sub) topic, don't discredit Jeff is all I'm saying. He's put in a lot of work over the years, while "others" haven't.

I see where you're coming from, and like someone stated before, it's somewhere in between. So we probably won't get any closer to agreeing than that.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! That would be so awsome im suprised they never pulled that LOL

Honestly even if you brought it up i think it would be less like this

we are going to go see jazzy jeff perform
oh the guy from the fresh prince ...awsome!!

and more like this
we are going to go see jazzy jeff perform
who
the guy from the fresh prine??
which one..will smith?? or carloton...he djs??
No he was the guy getting thrown out all the time
......ohhhh ya ok cool

Ibtl

but in the mean time

*grabs popcorn*

He randomly spouts out insults about people with bezzle in their name....its one of those things that tend to happen when you spend 20 hours a day thinking about someone...i think its called a frauidan slip

or it may have to do with the alseimers

LOL! Like your girl got alseimers of who's dick she was gobbling!

I can agree on that as well. I just know from first hand experience some of those types of big festivals, stadium shows etc, the crowd was there for anything BUT sitcom style entertainment. I just don't want to see someone so worthy, get tossed in the "only because he did this" pile.

I smell you on that, but you also have to realize that A LOT of folk show up because they know Jazzy from the sitcoms, and heard that he can DJ really well. It's usually 1 main person who comes to see him because of his TRUE DJ greatness, and he winds up bringing 2 or so people who "remember" him from other walks of life, whether it be Jazz from TV, his JMJ tribute, his "I wanna rock right now", or just association with Will Smith.

There is a reason why ALL THE OTHER great DJ's don't get as much publicity as Jazzy.

If you think about it isnt it really the reverse? Follow me on this one, Pauly D got on jersey shore for being pauly D and used to to springboard to his DJ career.....Jazzy jeff was on the fresh prince BECAUSE he was already on MTV alot and people knew who he was from his work on the fresh prince. Do you think he ever would have ended up on TV if he wasnt already an outstanding name in the culture??

Fresh Prince pulled him onto the show because they were boys.

smiles and knods

Because THE TRUTH is that Fresh Prince wouldn't have been as BIG as he was without Jazzy, and he knew it.

On the next episode of Celebrities Exposed: Will Smith, The Truth About the Fresh Princes Rise to Fame hosted by dj johnnym

Depends on where you are I guess. You ever go to underground Hip Hop shows, festivals etc? These litttle backpacker nerd types would die before they set foot in any type of commercialized environment, and will look at you as inferior unless you can recite his entire catalog chronoligically, including samples he flipped on which record before they tell you how far they travelled to find original copies of said work. These types are fucking die hard on all that shit.





But like Bezzle said, his association with Will Smith is actually Djing.

Anyway, I agree on the middle road. You're not new to this, so I'll leave it at that.

I think everyone at the time knew that.

+1

I saw jeff for his new orleans show and it def wasnt the same crowd that was at the pauly d show lol

Right, again, we're talking about how well known he is...

I understand why people hate on Pauly, but at least he seems passionate about the craft. He may not be the most skilled DJ, but if people want to throw money at him for doing what he loves he'd be an idiot not to cash in on it.

All he needs is someone to teach him how to improve which is something I'm sure he's willing to do.

Can we get back to DJ P.

You guys have argued Jazzy Jeff to death. The rest of us get it.

As for P's argument.. I get it: Its hard to see a shittier dj come up the easy way when you took the hard way. I think most of us who grew up on gemini mixers>vestax> rane or pioneer or who had to learn to beat match the hard way or who had to go beat digging and spend huge amounts of money for a fucking 12 inch import from europe just because of a stupid remix we've never actually heard but was rumored to be good and who had to save hella money to buy old 1200s take djing a bit more seriously and hold it up to a higher standard.

I'm still pissed about spending stupid money on imports by the way <mumbling to self>

what tha hell does that have to do with Jazzy Jeff?

























=)

He (or she), who hasn't seen Jazzy Jeff spin live,
and badmouths him, and saying "that only got famous 'cos he was in Fresh Prince of Bel Air", can STFU!

Look at the record cover of "He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper".
It was made in a time when a DJ was essential to a rapper/MC.

And yes, Jeff still does a lot of old school scratches,
and yes he rocks crowds with old jams.
But he has evolved, has produced a bucketload of remixes,
and can still interact with the crowd. And oh man, he is a humble and a nice guy.

MOST OF THE BIG NAME/CELEBRITY DJs (including the late great AM),
have gotten to a position of where they are now, by being associated with a big name/group/spouse/fuckbuddy/other. DUH!

That's the way it goes. If A-Trak hadn't been in that record store in London at that day in 2004, Kanye might have another gig DJ. (Insert another story of "making it big" here.)

The thing about DJ P. seems to be that he is reluctant to switch over to digital-DJing.
And he has skills to do a lot of most DJs would be hard-pressed to do with Serato.
Could he also keep up with the Top-40 requests? I mean, vinyl singles are getting scarcer every day... (one of the reasons, why I switched). Does he use CDJs?
Whatever it may be, I hope he can still make money out of his passion.

Pauly D. pfffft. If he would have a passion, and the tenacity to practice, I mean really practice, he could still make some money even after his fame fades. But I doubt it.
He is very borderline of a microwave-DJ.

My biggest concern is that it has become harder for a normal punter/customer to recognize who really knows the stuff, and who is just a fake.
And do they really even care? No, but skills come really into play, when the dancefloor isn't that packed and you have to keep things movin', or when the bar owner wants you to keep on going for an hour extra, just 10 minutes before the scheduled closing time.

Phew, my 2 cents and then some.

Back to Ableton

i still watch every re-run of fresh prince

Jazzy Jeff owes me shitloads of solder and transformer switches. I know he'll never pay up so I hope Pauly D beats him in the vote. That'll teach him.

If AM was here, this is what he would say:
"Man.. he's not a DJ.. and not in this to DJ! But if people offer him big bucks... What is he gonna do? NOT take it? HELL NO! Break bread!!!!! He is not mad at bread."

^about Pauly D

nah if you look at AMs posts on here he would NEVER discourage or talk down to someone by saying he was not a DJ, he would dance around the bush a ittle more than that, dude was mad polite

IBTL... lol

Everyone who has commented on this thread is a DJ am I correct?.....stop hating and debating and practice your craft....some of the greatest DJ`s ever have never been in the lime light but get respected where it counts. Do they care if Pauly D can DJ or not?...hell no bcuz they are from an era when DJ`s were in the fore front in hip hop, disco or what ever, these days rappers dont even use DJ`s unless its for a show or mixtape, so if any DJ is getting paid I say more power to him.

You guys forget or just dont know there are soooooo many types and levels of being a DJ, most "turntablist" could not hold it down in a club, bcuz his tricks would go over ppl`s head and most club goers are`nt into that but that does not mean he`s garbage, Jazzy Jeff is one of the greatest on all levels but put him in a reggae club (sound clash) against Bobby Konders and its a wrap...he would be out of his element. Jazzy Jeff is the man period, Just like DJP is the man on his block and im sure the poster above me is then man on his.

Bottom line stop hating on dudes like Pauly D bcuz he`s not out there spitting garbage about being the best, and if somewhere inside that moussed up head he does not THINK he`s the best then whats the point?...No matter what you do in life your supposed to feel and strive to be the best. Im sure he`s not talking about how he can kick garbage cans better for a living just because some of you guys have to and still havent gotten your 15 mins yet.

I`m not trying to offend but being negative about another dude or debating what has helped someone else career is really some hoe ass, desperate house wife, high school musical ish. For that matter I should be on blogs getting at Bill Gates becuz I think im a better business man and his monopoly with windows wont allow me to make the kind of bread I want....f*uck outta here, in the time it takes to hate I could be making improvements and step my game up....Again get your weight up and add something to the culture.

fixed

thank you sixxxx!

Here's an interview with D on the topic of DJing:
music-mix.ew.com
If what he says is true (it probably isn't though) I'll respect him.

what Jazzy Jeff says himself:

'I don't care why people come to the party. Some people come because of the back in the day JJ and Fresh Prince, some people come for Jazzy Jeff the producer, some people come for Jazz from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. The bottom line is that you come, and that I get you when you are there....'

from 1:25

Watchwww.youtube.com

on Topic, I like what P does behind the decks, but he sure still is whining a lot about the whole 'real DJs who don't get the shine they deserve' thing. He said it best in a youtube from years ago. 'all people care about in the club is getting drunk and laid'.

It is what it is. Besides, P aint short for gigs, right?

WOW i am at a loss for word, when this forum was brought to my attn I was looking forward to meeting some of the DJs who havent been fortuanate enough to have been blessed with the oppritunitys and talent that I have. Instead I find a forum of nothing but haters. You guys seem so bitter and jealous that I am out there doing things while you sit around and complain about it im out with some of the best DJs in the game learning their tricks and doing everything I can to be the worlds best DJ, dont hate on me because I put in the work to develop and maintain a marketable image, if you guys had any brains at all you would follow suit because IT WORKS.

As far as DJ P I had never heard of DJ P until he began harassing me on twitter but I looked him up on wikipedia and he appears to have talent. Im just assuming he is trying to ride the back of my success to get some time in the light and im not mad at him for that but instead of comming at me and working something out that would have been beneficial to both of us he uses immature tactics to try and bait me into bringing him into the spotlight. I dout he has the kind of finance it would take make it worth my time to make him famous.

In general you guys need to get lives, if you put in half the work that you do hating into your DJing mabye you ould obtain the kind of gigs i get. If you have the talent seek the oppritunity, dont wait for it to fall into your lap find a way to get yourself in the game. I have gigs to get to and money to make. PEACE

- Paul "DJ Pauly D" DelVecchio

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol, even if it IS FAKE, that was hilarious.

And if it wasn't fake, it was still hilarious because he said "havent been fortunate enough to be blessed with the opportunities and TALENT that I have" (I corrected the misspellings because I hate typing like I'm illiterate)

lol wow usually fridays are slow, this ones looking up!! Tracking

**popcorn grabbed, thread subscribed to**

pass the popcorn!!

I would think if it was REAL it would be SAD because I'd be EMBARRASED to be on this board with a bunch of cats that are hatin' on him from across the globe, and know damn well that if they were in his shoes, they'd do the exact same thing.

****Fist Pump***

See instead of sitting around waiting to argue with me why dont you work on a scratch or go to the gym or something. If you guys didnt sit around on the computer all day mabye you would have a look that you could use to market yourself and get to the level im at. Talent is a very small percentage of this game but if i had no talent do you think i would be retaining the kinds of crowds i bring in. People with no talent do not get residencies like I do, im spinning some of the top clubs in the nation and i worked very hard to get where im at. Youll notice before today I didnt have an account on this site, thats because I used that time to practice and perfect my craft. Ill be here for a while guys so get used to it. Your even using my catch phrases, if you dont think thats done on purpose than my marketing is working. This game is 10% talent 90% busniess and im a busniessman.

If the "REAL' Paully D could just prove he was real with a pic or something this would be one of my favorite posts ever.

Dj johnny m your name sounds familiar do you spin in NY?

+1

Nope, but I'm pseudo famous in Jerzey.

****plays along with this***

I was just thinking. The real Pauly would have to go through like a PR person and a whole management team before he even started to type on here. He's really just a puppet in the big scheme of things. I'm not playing along. Prove yoself or GTFO.

i808.photobucket.com

@therealpaulyd - you were blessed with the opportunity to be on a reality show and as a result you command a high fee to show up. No one shows up to hear you DJ, they show up because they want to say they were at a place where someone who is on popular TV show is at. Regardless of what you think you are a DJ in the catagory of Perez Hilton and Linsey Lohan not AM or Jazzy Jeff. Your correct making money in nightlife is 90% business and 10% skills. But being a great DJ is 100% skills and nothing else.

Your not the first b-list celeberty to gain fame in DJing. The man who many of us consider one of the best DJ's in the world, Jazzy Jeff, gained big time fame from being on the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. But because he has backed it up with skill he will continue to sell out venues around the world for years to come. Watch the video of him rocking a crowd in Israel recently posted to YouTube, then watch the crowd at your gigs. At his gigs EVERYONE is dancing, at yours they are standing around and taking pictures of you. Maybe if you took your eyes off the computer screan for once you would notice.

But i'm not here to hate. I respect your hustle and what you have done with your image and to be honest if I was in your shoes I would do the same thing (i've also booked situation mike to make an apparence at one of the spots I DJ), but I would be humble. No need to talk about how great you think you are and how much money you make. If your so great show up and battle DJ P for no other reason than to gain some respect for yourself in the DJ community. If someone called AM out he would fly them to LA and battle them just so he could destory them, he wouldnt say "you cant afford me".

DJ AM would post on this form often. He is another guy who used the tabloids to land high paying gigs. But because of his talent he maintained his fame even when he broke up with nicole richie. I remember and maybe someone can pull this up (i'm writing this while on a conference call with my promo team) AM saying "I am a DJ, i'm not the best DJ, i'm just a lucky DJ." Let that quote set in and start living your life that way and you wont be the joke of all DJs.

Paul all I am saying is stay humble and respect the game. Your skills are weak and if this is how you practice (Watchwww.youtube.com))you might want to get someone to help you with basic music theory.

You want to be known for your skills back it up.

POPCORN PEANUTS POPCORN PEANUTS WE GOT FENWAY FRANKS GET EM WHILE THEY LAST

Ya that emmy did nothing for him before the show lol

lol naw...too poised be polly d

If only we could all get on MTV... grabs hair gel... runs to tanning salon!

Through my internet wizardry I can see this pic on Photobucket is an old pic.

And I have a theory that your name is actually Drew Jarret. And your a gay hair designer/photographer. You probable was googlin to find some gay porn of Pauly D and stumbled on to this site. You then decieded to pull off this prank and that is why your profile was just created today. But that is just a theory.

We know he's not real, but it's entertainment anyway....

So who the the BIGGEST PRO-PAULY PROMOTER on the board?

You say that jokingly but why not try and do it, find yourself a way to be marketable to a wider audience and try to get on a show. MTV is constantly looking for people for reality shows. Instead of complaining why dont you find one and audition for it and see if your talents take you further than mine have.

Man, you're messing up...

See, in your previous posts, you had all types of grammatical errors...

This one isn't bad, you're morphing back into who you really are on here...

FOCUS MAN, FOCUS!

Lol - yup.

How exactly would you figure that out - the hacker/nerd in me wants to know...

Tineye.com,.. ran
Tineye.com ran an image search to see what I could get from there. It showed me that picture has been around for a while.

Then google the photobucket link. Didn't get anything from google, so I chopped off the actual file part of the link and ran a search again. Came up with way to many results, so after I poked around on the results for a minute I made up my theory based on the something I clicked on. I know I'm a dork. But since the pic is obviously fake, that proves the post was fake and that was all I really needed.

LOL WOW CSI Scratchlive.com\net

^ I figured since he wasn't really Pauly D and based on the picture posted of Pauly D looking gayer than normal that he himself must be very gay. Not gay hating, just saying.

Here's another theory. Maybe far fetched, but what the hell.. Somebody has hacked djpmix.com and hacked (or set-up a new) twitter account and all this ain't real from the get go. The only reason I thought of that is cause I been a member of the DJP Army since around the time it started, and I am unable to log into my account since I first seen this thread. It could just be a flook on my end. And those twitter post don't sound like Danny to me. I haven't talked to him in about 5-6 years, but he would never call himself a pioneer of mash-up. He calls it blending. But WTF do I know.

G.T.L. peoples, GTL...stop wasting time on the forums like Pauly D says and GTL!!


Gym, Tan, Laundry

i wanna see a pic of him giving thumbs up in front of a computer with the forum on the screen.. :)

ohh to everyone please to re homo fix my quote..
i knew you were thinking that

dont! re homo fix my quote.. ahhh

so, wait... you DON'T want us to fix the homo-ness of your quote?
OK we are to leave to leave the homo in that quote and not take it away.
Got it.

The homo stays in the quote!
Now someone please show BuddyLove a pic op Pauly D stat!


=)

You're welcome

I love Big Wiz's humor ! Ha ! Sup homie !!!!

hahaha! you know what i ment geeeez

Hmm, from what I've seen in videos, you should consider closing your account, and get back to practice.

I've thought about this for a few minutes, and it's out of my comfort zone but here goes:

I don't mean to one up DJ P in any way, but if this is the real Pauly D, then I'll take you up on a battle. If you've marketed yourself like you said (and I can't deny that you have) then all I'm asking you to do is win a simple popularity contest.

Should be easy, a somebody against a nobody. I have nowhere near the skill that DJ P has, so I'm not going to win on that angle. I've seen your videos and our skills are more closely matched than you and P, no offense to you, but he can beat both of us just by looking at the needle on the record.

I have not marketed myself successfully in any way whatsoever perhaps I've not even tried, but this is the way I am going to try. We can put your marketing against my nothing(keting) There are essentially no stakes involved. You will still have your show, residencies, and appearances, and all I can ever gain is just being "that guy"

I'm not going to post this anywhere else, this is a forum of our peers, and me asking to do so in any other manner would be a moot point due to my non status, I'm just a regular guy with a weekly gig and some mobile work here and there. All I ask is that it not interfere with anything having to do with my upcoming wedding. While i submit to the fact that you will defeat me in a popularity contest, I would still like to keep my bodily functions that allow me to reproduce someday.

I'm in Scranton, PA. You were just here, and anybody that you dealt with there will be able to get in contact with me.

We can do it at any venue of your choosing, provided that I'm provided travel accommodations, me being a nobody with no marketing and such will not be able to fulfill any request to get anywhere.

It's very simple. I'm respectfully asking you to beat me with your popularity. If I can't win over a crowd with my self perceived better skill, then you win, and you have your first winning battle in the books*

I'm very serious. What have I got to lose? This is also in the spirit of working together that would be beneficial to both of us, much like you mentioned about DJ P. I did mention that I do not have the financials, but hopefully any type of monies from said event would be able to satisfy anything you would be looking for.

Again, will you please beat me at a popularity contest turned DJ battle?






*I don't actually know if you've had a battle before, or even won one for that matter. If you have, then I apologize, and will just be one more number to add to your win totals

Uh... what part about the post being fake did you not get?
(sound of airplane whizzing overhead)

*makes wish right now*

Did you actually read my post?

The one with 'if this is the real Pauly D'? Yes. I did.

Please check the batteries in your sarcasm meter.

Dude, if that was sarcasm, it was the longest post attempt ever. Maybe your sarcasm delivery mechanism is broken?? ;)

Un possible. I have to try to not speak sarcastically. Actually thought it would be a bit more funny due to length. Guess not.

Not trying to 'splain myself, but talking about keeping bodily functions and all?

My daughter wants to battle pauly d

This was 4 years ago and she hasn't practiced since.

I have a feeling she might still win.

Watchwww.youtube.com

Forgot link

vegas is about money and pauly d or any celeb dj can bring that in out there. they dont care about a battle against pauly d and who ever P now if if was pauly d vs t-pain it would be billboards across vegas cause that like a mike tyson fight in his prime,bound to bring in cash. they could see tickets for $300 and people would go see. he's just showing a form of weaknest and hate toward pauly d. pauly d is not settling for $200 gigs like 90% of these dj's are just to stay busy. I wonder how many dj's on here lie about what they make to seem like there really making bank.I did a stage rental yesterday for $100 and free bbq just cuz I can.

WTF... how tha hell did my response end up IN the quote... hahaha

ok... one more time...
What up mang. Didn't see you in Seattle.... we got some Sixty-Eight clinics going on in NYC this week though. I'll probably post some info soon.

(fixed)

pauly d makes money
nuff said

You guys coming to NYC... cool..

hip-hop is dying because this society is sick

info on NY SIXTY-EIGHT clinics:
www.serato.com

maybe sixxx and johnny_m can go to the clinic and have an abortion...

you may be thinking of the 69 clinic

Hmmm, They all kinda early in the day...

some may change... I'll post updates.

That's wrong on so many levels.

Seriously O.B.1.... you're getting off subject. That had absolutely nothing to do with Jazzy Jeff.

sorry, I tend to go off on tangents sometimes...

BP makes money too, they also dumped a bunch of shit in the ocean.

hahaha...
nuff said

First off i just want to say what's up to everyone here. I appreciate everyone's opinions and hope all of you are living well. (Even you Pauly D)
As some of you know the Culture of Hip Hop and spinning music has changed in a huge way through out the years. The industry has taken this art form and distorted it to make money and abuse it. (As some of you have already mentioned) I remember when i started playing in clubs at age 17. The owner hired me because i had the records and the SKILL to mix and program a dance floor. It was important to have a good dj who could rock a crowd back then. Dj's had to spend money on new vinyl records every week. Not everyone had the patience or the LOVE of music to do this. Plus Mixing on turntables was more underground and not as popular as it is today. With that being said now EVERYONE CAN DO IT because of technology. I'm not hating on technology but it has hurt the art form a ton.
How many dj's really have a passion for what they do? I became a dj because i loved music and making people dance. I got a high off of mixing two different styles of music on the turntables in my bedroom. Even Music i knew would NOT work in a club. Experimenting with different records. I didn't do it to become FAMOUS or make a ton of MONEY!
Long story short(Or i will type for days! lol) I am not hating on Pauly D at all! But as one of the top pioneer's (of mash-up's as you call it today) and turntablist who have worked and paid due's, I feel it's time to stand up for the CULTURE!
If this is REALLY you Pauly D then hear me out please. I wasn't harassing you on Twitter. I am simply calling you out to a BATTLE. There is nothing immature about that! If you really knew anything about the culture you would know that homie.
The bottom line is you are runner up for BEST DJ. Can u not admit you don't deserve that?? At least not yet!?? All you celebrity "DJ's" need to admit you suck and need lots of practice at this art form!(if i may be so bold) As said earlier in this forum you celebrity's are booked for the draw you bring to the club. Not your skills as a dj! BEST DJ!?? Maybe actor!
Pauly I seen a video where u said you were going to be the next DJ AM. ?? Maybe in 2030! Dj AM was from the old school like myself and a few others. He may have dated a celebrity and became one himself but he was already a dope dj and understood the culture. YOU DON"T! And neither do the rest of you non mixing celebrity's! If you celebrity's would admit you needed work and only spun for more status and money then i would be cool with it. But all of you are fakin' the Funk! Your skill Pauly D is acting!(or something else) Not spinning music! How about i run for best actor this year? Why?? Because i'm not a actor just like you are NOT a dj! As far as you saying i'm trying to ride your coat tails to become famous is way off! I don't care about fame! But i do care about this culture and how long it took me to make any noise! I'm not saying im the best dj in the world. ( because i am not) but i am one of the best out there!
I am not just speaking for myself, but for all the other dj's who have paid due's and are better than the suckers who keep getting chosen for "BEST DJ" (JOKE!!) and taking jobs from the professionals! And that even goes for dj's on this board who are better than you Pauly D! You may be a nice guy but this is the straw that broke the camels back for me. I had to speak up!
The question is will you except my challenge Dj Pauly D!? I will rock a party against you anytime any where! I could care less about being #1 Dj! It's about educating the masses of people on what REAL DJING IS and making a stand. Let's set it up on a stage and then explain what we are doing to the crowd. Bring all the celebrity's up! I am ready to battle all of them! Or maybe you are all afraid of the truth getting out.
Just for the record i want everyone to know this is in good clean fun because thats what hip hop is all about. I don't hate you Pauly D or anyone else. But this is my CULTURE and i have to make a stand! Who knows you might even school me if you keep practicing. LOL :)
D.J.P ROCK STEADY CREW

If that's really you DJ P, I'm ashamed. Dude, you know DAMN WELL, Pauly D ain't built for battlin, so to me, it's you tryin' to get some shine.

There are big name DJ's out there from back in the day, Jazzy Jeff, Grandmaster Flash, Cash Money, Jazzy Jay, Q-Bert, etc..and little name DJ's on here, who see it for what it is, and aren't making a fuss about it because they ALREADY KNOW it's about cutting a check.

How are you gonna battle this guy? I mean really?

What would that prove? And who would care?

And what would it change?

You're already "well respected" in the hiphop community, so what's the problem?

You want to be "well respected" in the circles that Pauly D is in? Stop that.

If you were in Pauly D's shoes, and could stand to make a TON of money, while doing something you like, and scoop hot chicks, you'd do it too.

If you were REALLY standing up for the culture, you'd offer to help him out, not embarrass him.

im callin shennanigans on this threads pauld AND DJ P......still fun to watch though, carry on. Mabye these 2 fake characters will have a fake battle

I see this quote alot on these boards and it kinda bothers me, because if its the same clip\interview i saw his exact words were something along the lines of "what dj am had, i want that job"....he didnt say he was the next am or better or as good as am he just said he wanted ams job, and look at it he played the biggest gigs had the largest shine ect ect. Who here WOULDNT want that job, thats what everyone in this busniess should be trying to shoot for.

All I know is that DJ P called out Pauly D, and for what? If he battles him in a real HipHop setting, will he get props for beating Pauly D? No.

To really get at the heart of it all, I personally didn't think DJ P's performance in the DMC battle "belonged" there. Why? Because to me all he did was "Mix", and we had evolved to cutting scratching, beat juggling etc..etc..

Now, that's not hate, that's just ME. BUT a LOT of DJ's were feelin' DJ P's routines and style, and BIT. So, now the most FAMOUS DJ who was doing that style (DJ AM), was now doing it for a section of the world that "Real HipHop DJ's" didn't care about...aka Hollywood and Vegas for the stars.

We weren't interested in that sector before, now were we? No.

So DJ AM capitalized off of it, being a "Celebrity DJ" to the stars, BUT he had the skills to back it up. What OTHER skilled DJ was doing that? Or cared?

Now DJ AM dies, all the potential DJ AM's pop up, and out of the crowd of DJ's is Pauly D, who is thrust into the spotlight and HAPPENS to be a DJ.

The DJ AM spot is "vacant" and now DJ's see how lucrative "his" spot was and want to get in on it.

Like I said, DJ P wants to battle Pauly D in front of Hollywood, would their opinion REALLY matter to someone who's trying to do this for the "Culture"?

What you SHOULD do is get with Pauly D, since he's the "hottest DJ" out now teach him about the "Culture", show him how to beatmatch, and be happy that he MAY be able to pass that on to the masses that would be watching him, as if they'd care...

Stop that.

I remember having a discussion some years back with P about where things will go with computer DJing. "Any old fool with a computer was mentioned" - but not celebrity fools - we didnt see that coming

Im supporting P here.

Pauly let that wack BATTLE routine up on youtube - he is not just showing up at clubs and doing a poor job on some whatever gets money shit - he is talking shit about how good he is, ACTING like he knows what he is doing. PRETENDING to be down. "BEST DJ"??? - P is not wrong for challenging that bullshit.

The reason hip-hop is so fucked up nowadays is WE let any old bullshit ride like nothings wrong. Politics, money, afraid of being called a hater, just lazy, whatever the reason - because WE lowered the standards down to zero, anyone new to this has no idea what it is supposed to be like.

Beyond that, P is making a POINT. thats what this is about, not like he needs to test skills. Its about SHOWING skill. Showing skill to people who otherwise have no clue. If even one Pauly fan gets educated by looking into what this situation is about and finding out there is a culture behind it, good.

hip-hop is dead because no one is will to call out weak shit

how so??

you do realise hes not even a hip-hop dj right?? How is a non-hip-hop dj killing hiphop, its like saying hiphop is dead because we let artists like van burin and tiesto off the hook we need to stop him from ruining our culture and show the world they cant scratch

First by taking any gigs at all - if that Rock The Bells routine is about where his skill level is right now, he needs to stay at home and practice before coming out the house.

what the fuck is this then?
Watchwww.youtube.com
I know he is not a Hip-Hop DJ - he is a poser.

DJing is an element of hip-hop. Do I need to explain further?

so tiesto is a hiphop dj??

so taking gigs your offered = talking shit about how good you are?? You do realise most club gigs\crowds dont require battle scratch routines right?

Are you retarded?

You either want to see talented DJs who've put in the work getting shine (DJ P) or you are content guys who doesn't even have a grasp of basic principles of beatmatching being the poster boy of the artform we all love.

is that what I said?



AND?

heres the sad truth about clubs and club goers in america today, most dont really care about scratching, routines, originality in sets. If you offer that yes its a plus and that may be the edge that makes your club hot, or if you play to niche' crowds, like lets say you dj a very real "hip-hop" club then yes their gonna think your wack. But in the other 90% of the clubs in the world if you can beatmatch 2 songs and have a pretty solid grasp on what makes people dance, what people know\like, your ready to do gigs.

I know alot of NY and LA DJs here will chime in with their "ive put in 30 years of dedication and i can tripple flare audoban with 1 hand and ill murder any beatmatcher and thats why my nights rock and im the best in town"
thats cool you give the crowds extra, they expect that from YOU and it gives you the edge, and your def better than this kid. But ive been to enough clubs where the DJs DONT do that, and seen enough MIDI button pusher DJs play and seen crowds still go nuts the way they would to supposibly skilled DJs.

The truth is ive never once heard this kid say he was anything spectactular, he airs confidence but thats something every dj no matter how good they think they are should do, its just another bit of marketing.

Just because crowds or bookign managers don't care doesn't mean DJs shouldn't care. If you love music and DJing, you don't want to see a guy with Pauly D's "skills" at any club.

lol you guys are so full of hate yuo cant put up a good argument



I said he wasnt a hiphp dj, you came back with DJing is an element of hiphop.....all djing isnt hiphop djing and dosent necesasarily reflect back on the hip hop culture...tiesto for isnstance is the best known dj in the world and has nothing to do with hiphop, scratching, tricks or the cultrue. If your playing EDM and pop music you dont need to be concerned with a culture you arent even a part of




heres the ENTIRE quote before you call me out




i asked how so to "he is talking shit about how good he is, ACTING like he knows what he is doing. PRETENDING to be down" and you replied with "First by taking any gigs at all "

So as i said how is taking gigs either talking shit about how good he is OR acting like hes down??

your second argument was "if that Rock The Bells routine is about where his skill level is right now, he needs to stay at home and practice before coming out the house"

The rock the bells is a battle\scratch routine, i replied with "You do realise most club gigs\crowds dont require battle scratch routines right?"

Which means for the kind of gigs hes getting routines like that rock the bells routing DONT MATTER he could be and is horrible at that routine, that dosent reflect on what hes doing when hes out there, as long as hes not pulling that horrible routine at a club it shouldnt matter

i dont but what are you as a dj going to do to stop it, you said it yourself crowds and booking managers dont care..in a club thats your loop, booking manager books "talent" and crowd pay to see sed "talent" do you think a bunch of DJs bitching about it will stop that if that loops working?? Do you think winning a battle in front of a crowd you just stated dosent care will win their hearts and minds and make them stop going to see him? Do you think the booking manager is going to ignore the money this kids pulling in because you won the battle and have more "talent" Bottom line clubs like the ones hes playing at are a busniess, the goal of a busniess is to make money, if someones talent will make your profit margin higher than go for it but if paying someone whos more talented\gets payed more dosent help the bottom line than all the talent dosent matter

in other words YES, DJing is still a SKILL- scratching or not. And as far asI can tell Pauly D lacks any kind of DJ skill or talent. But since he is obviously one of the best DJs around it proves that there is absolutely no such thing as quality left in our entire society. Quality has been replaced by Hype. Its the dream of the marketer come true. If marketed correctly you can sell anyone a piece of shit and they will eat it. Pauly D is shit and crowds will eat it and call it good.



again there is more to DJing then tricks.



exactly - its marketing

Ill put it like this i saw pauly DJ in new orleans (got in free wouldnt pay to support it lol), he showed me nothin special but it wasnt like he was up there trainwreking, he played safe songs people wanted to hear and people were dancing and having a great time, packed house, he sounded like 99% of the other DJs ive heard, you could have replaced him with most of the DJs on burbon ST and noone would have noticed. I also saw DJ AM and jeff in house of blues, packed house but mostly people crowding the satge starring at jeff and am do what they did, noone was dancing and it was more like an exibition, they were outstanding and amazing...2 different sets of DJs 2 different crowds both worked just fine



yup theres crowd reading, track selection, making people dance.....he seems capable of all of these



Ive strayed from my original point though, i dont give a fuck if hes getting these gigs or not, ill never be offered to play spots like this and hed never be able to play a spot like mine, im not defending him saying hes talented because hes not particularly talented at all, i think he sounds like an average DJ at best (mabye a little less than a talented dj). What i AM defending is people are making it out like hes saying hes an amazing DJ, ive never heard him say he was particularly talented, hes never said he WAS the next AM he said he wanted the job and who dosent its an awsome job, ive heard him say hes at the top of the game and for his pay grade in a busniess sence he is. Ive never heard him say he was as good or better than another or that DJs should look up to him or that hed win a DMC or be a scratch god. I think dude realises where hes at and hes just capitolising on an oppritunity hes been given so who cares, over half the DJs on this board or overpayed for what they do now and if given the oppritunity to get payed more and be in a better position i gaurentee theyd accept it

no one wants to be labeled a 'hater' - I think thats one reason no one these days calls out shit when its wack - politics and scared to loose position is more reasons...

so now everything is just wack




what the fuck is this then?
Watchwww.youtube.com




FIRST yes, and then I went on... But yes if he is calling himself a DJ and taking gigs, then at the very least he is representing himself as someone who knows what he is doing - when he obviously doesnt.



are you kidding me?
Is he jumping on a set or two talking about learning to DJ - or is he being marketed as the real fucking deal??



I can tell by that routine that his mixing sucks. I can tell by that routine that he doesnt have a clue about some basic concepts. I can tell by that routine that thinks that he is somehow connected to Hip-Hop.

Sounds like a Wedding DJ to me.

if thats your opinion than about 90% of DJs are wedding DJs, liek ive said before i see your in NY so this dosent apply because your used to the rich culture of talent you guys and LA share but more often than not most DJs you see else where fall into this catagory and not so much into the AM\Vice\Flipside catagories

oops forgot to fill in the 1st point



how can you say hes "not a dj" he may not be a talented dj but he is a dj none the less, its not like he started after the jersey shore thats just what jumped him on. like ive said ive seen him live and hes replaceable with most average resident djs ive seen. And he "knows what hes doing", the point to a club DJ should be to make the people dance and have a good time, every club vid ive seen of the kid and the performance i saw in person he was accomplishing his goals

I have to disagree here, corporations have taken control of what we had. They manufactured groups, think (Envogue [who was dope], Milli,) and groups that had an "entire package" vs. pure skill.

Then they forced the radio stations to force it down the publics throat.

Then technology gives the end user more control over their music. They don't need to go to the club anymore, they have the internet and an iPod. That takes control out of the DJ's hands altogether.

AND, its not really personal against him or about anything he says. Its about him being voted as "BEST DJ" its about him being booked as if he was actually an excellent DJ. P is not calling him out because he hates the guy - he is an example of phenomena of wackness. P is making a point. The point is that shit is wack now a day. The point is that the bar is low, and people are two dumb to recognize quality. The only quality they know is what happens to be marketed to them - and they will eat shit just the same. P is drawing a line, shit on one side skill on the other. This is what originally made Hip-Hop great. And it is originally what made culture in general great - now it is shit.

like i said before though, im not defending his skill level, sure i agree no jersey shore and he would still be doin local shows in NY....but my point is hesd STILL be doin gigs. Theres different cattagories in tbis busniess and i think people are trying to qualify him into a catagory that hes not in, nor seems to be trying to be in, bottom line here is damn near every DJ on this board thinks their shit dont stink and in reality A) theres prob 100 djs in each of your locals saying that you suck and dont deserve whatever position\money your getting B) if you were offered this guys gigs youd take em and have a smile on yuor face cashin the check C) think you deserved it just as much as him D) have a thread about you explaining why you dont deserve it

Ok i do agree with every word of this, very well thought out and explained A+. My only issue with this is you said it yourself the bar is low shit is wack and people are dumb....P could STOMP D and it wouldnt change anything it wouldnt raise the bar or change the game....as a matter of fact theres a good chance that alot of people in a paulD crowd would consider P the loser ive if he STOMPED D because pauly d has a name they know. Its the same as the vast sea of people who say wayne or whatever wak rapper would beat em in a battle, their fans and theyd support him even against logic. P winning a battle dosent prove anything to anyone people who know whats up already know the outcome and the clueless ones wouldnt care\understand the situatuation.

Also you cant knock the booking agents, their job is to make the club money not find talent and they did a good job finding a cash cow

This is where you have to think like the MAJORITY, aka CONSUMERS..

What do you think the person Cutting the Check cares about?

You can either cater to THEM, and have a job, and teach the crowd a little at a time in your corner of the world, or you can rebel and uphold the "integrity" of HipHop in your bedroom.

C'mon man, so before you took ANY GIGS, you were world class?

Do you think he'd do a ROCK THE BELLS routine at a show, or just do what he knows?

He knows enough to play hot *ish, and unfortunately, that's enough to get him by.

in other words EVERYONE is a DJ nowaday

we agree the bar is low, most DJs are shit, and actual talent is not recognized or a vertue.

P calling him out might spark someones brain to see shit for shit. P knows he could "loose the battle" but at least he is doing something instead of just letting that shit ride like everything is good.

people should not be so complacent and scared to say some shit lest they get called a 'hater, coat-tail ridder, radical, etc." or they loose position, or whatever.

its why shit is wack

And you are not saying anything contrary to what I said, might as well just be expanding on what I have said.

let me get some more popcorn.........

Now-a-days there are way too many DJs who don't care about the art form as a whole. They just care about making their quick chedder and thats it. There are probably way more DJs than you think who don't know that DJing started in the 70s in New York

Djing was around way before the 70's and it didn't start with hip hop..

Uh no, I started in basement parties of crackhouses and wound up in teen clubs and high school dances after several years.

Eventually (I will admit) to being on stages that I probably should not have been on, but I was already taking corporate checks and everything was wack anyway.



I dont know what he will do at the party. But no, I would not be surprised if he did that routine at the party - Ive seen kids do it and worse - and crowds think it was dope!

If he is smarter then that, fine.

And maybe (even though I doubt it) he is a decent DJ by now. All of which is not the point. The question is - is he the "BEST DJ" in any sense of the words?

If you mean just switching songs then uhh yeah, but I've never heard scratching on Elvis, Johnny Cash, The Beatles, etc until now.

When it comes to clubs and parties nobody cares about "the art of DJing" All club owners care about is packing the club and making money. The patrons only care about getting drunk, having fun, and taking someone back to the crib.

If DJ Trainwreck guarantees 500 people every night he will be hired over DJ Skills every time.

Pauly D is spinning the best clubs and parties simply because he will bring in more people than any other DJ right now.

Jonnny cash and the beatles are not hip hop... And weren't you born like 2 decades later..
You probaly meant scratching orginated in the 70's. But just because someone doesn't scratch doesn't mean they are not djing..

it started with disco. It all started with disco. DISCO FOREVER!

there you go Sniffles. Fixed for ya

but cuing and beatmatching did start with Hip-Hop

there you go Sniffles. Fixed for ya

Yeah djing with 2 turntables dates back to the 1940's in the disco..

I was born in '95, but that doesn't mean I don't know anything from '94 back. DJing as the art form we know today was started in the late 70s. Maybe they switched songs in disco, but there was nothing complex about it. I can switch songs, but to me that ain't DJing. No disrespect.

Yeah I'm pretty sure those elements of djing started in the disco scene which progressed to house and hip hop

Aren't you the dude who was trying to scratch and still had the stock rubber mats on? It's safe to say that your opinion won't hold much weight in these neck of the woods.

Im not sure I would call early Hip-Hop "the disco scene", you could I guess. But I think one thing fundamental to Hip-Hop is that it blended and built from several genres, including disco records.

For 30 years DJing was about matching two record levels and more about talking on the mic and a personality. Most of what we call DJing even button pushing is directly descended from what happend in The Bronx.

SO, in a way even if you are not playing 'hip-hop', what you are doing as a DJ is Hip-Hop.

which makes Pauly wack

That is not true. They were MIXING and cueing in Studio 54.

thank you

You are dead wrong.

You need to read this book.

Last night a DJ saved my life.

www.amazon.com

As a matter of fact, that was the FIRST pressed "Mix" I've ever heard.

www.discogs.com

It's a 2 album set, and they MIX from one song to the next....

I don't agree with that either. A lot of the techniques you think started in hip hop started in disco and house aside from scratching and juggling.

okay agreed

A Night At Studio 54.

www.youtube.com

With the exception of looping a break with might seem as a juggle. I believe they were doing this in the early house days. I'm sure Johnny can confirm

And that's MY POINT. You KNEW you weren't supposed to be there, but you were taking the gigs anyway until you got where you needed to be.

So because everything was weak then it was ok for you?? Its wak now so it should be the same for him, also when yuo first started getting on stages you didnt belong on did tons of better djs wig out and try to battle you to show the world you werent ready?

Also you said it best here



Bottom line in the club if the crowd thinks its dope they got their moneys worth theyll come back

i thought that started in the reggae and dancehall scene in the islands?

wow this thread took a left turn lol

Early House was built on just going from one song to another, BUT I do remember hearing that people like Larry Levan used to do things like EXTEND an intro, or part of a song for a LONG TIME, so the club / people could really savor the experience.

And you didn't make mistakes hen you first started? You didn't have questions? I had slipmats over the rubber mat. You bring up ish that has been over since day 1! Get something new to say.

I'm gonna have to listen to that....

The thread didn't take a left turn... Just some educating

Wow. I did a little more research and the first recorded thing is from 1939.

I'm gonna have to listen to that....

That vid is low quality, but I will upload the 4 sides, if you're interested, because I just burned the Album last week...

Dopeness.

SO technically everyone is wrong in some way.

+1

I'm interested in anythin to do with roots of DJing. Thanks!

lol that WAS the left turn.... a thread about pauly D is the oposite of anything to do with education

Actually, I can't remember the last time I was wrong about anything....

:-)

en.m.wikipedia.org

give that a read

its a tough call because through various arguments on this forum ive done extensive research and there are tonsof variations depending on what source material your reviewing. Historys is the truth according to those who wrote it.

Except for you. You're never wrong (:

Pauly D posting any videos of himself (especially attempting to trick mix) was one of the worst things he could have ever done. That video should have been removed right after he was offered his first gig.

Me personally, I'm not mad at him. If I were in his shoes, I'd take those gigs. I'd also keep practicing. When I saw him on the show and he first broke out his gear, he told the other dude everything he had. He was proud of being a DJ and the gear he has.

His skills may not be at the level they should be for playing those gigs, but all of us have been there at one point or another. His is just exploited to the fullest by promoters who just want to pack clubs with brain-dead people who just want to see the Jersey Shore guy.

I've never heard him say he's better than one particular DJ, but I have heard him say things like "I saw Tiesto and I want to be like THAT!" To me, there's nothing wrong with that. My advice to him is to get that damn Peter Piper video OFF of youtube, keep practicing and keep doing his thing.

Hate him if you want, but the more you talk about him the longer he will be talked about. Even bad press can be good press.

And get this book...

www.amazon.com

my thoughts exactly

^+1
I stated earlier that if he really does have a passion about DJing then I'll respect him. I haven't seen jersey shore so I don't know.


lol

All 4 sides.....

www.djjohnnym.com

^Thanks!

big facepalm when i came across this gem... www.djcity.com

Never said I have never been hypocritical, or that I have a pure heart and shit gold.

What I was doing was not in alignment with principals I had when I started. But I break allot of 'rules' that I used to keep. What good are they if I am the only one keeping them? Yes, what I was doing was 'getting over' because no one understood, cared, or called me on it. But in reality thinking about it, more my personal standards then anyone else.



I didnt say it was "okay", I was admitting to it.

And no one tried to battle me, because I wasnt THAT wack. Just opening for DJs who are much better, and if I were the promoter probably would have picked someone else. What I am talking about is opening for turntablists like Klever. Thing is that Ive also rocked parties with Klever where his turntablism (before he was party rocking) was frowned on while I shined.

Back to my original point - If that video is an indication of his skill level he should not be taking gigs if you ask me. It is a complete scam. If he is better then that, fine. But if not he should be practicing before taking these large gigs. Otherwise, and he might not even realize, but what he is doing is perpetuating wackness. If he calls what he is doing skill then he lowers the bar for anyone unfortunate enough to believe it.

Cultural standards exist to build the culture. If originally you never needed any type of skills to become successful, why would you build any skill in the first place? If it wernt for standards and level playing field for competition there would be nothing.

Imagine if no one ever recognized skills and always fell to artificial fame and marketing tricks? We would have nothing.



And thats what I am saying the problem is - people believing wack shit is dope!

I dont care how much money it makes.

The cream used to rise to the top, but now the crap does. This is a trick played on all of us which moves control of what we do into the hands of someone else. It breaks the culture, and now it is broke. Its the reason why so many of us have to play trash.

Ok, so what's the difference between AKIEM back in the context you mention above, and Pauly D today?

You were trying to "get on", and was lucky enough to have that outlet.

And you realize, there was somebody out there hating on you back then, as people are hating on Pauly D today.

^^Yup yup. People forget their roots.

Wow, that takes it to a whole new level. What about that made sense to you?

Here's the thing, Lewshis... creativity and smarts is a major part of the game today. Back in the day, there were no needles made to scratch with, etc. So to compensate, DJs were putting pennies on top of their styluses to keep the needle in the groove. That's the kind of creativity you need to have. If something isn't working, take a step back and evaluate. Say to yourself, damn, how do I make that do what I need it to?

And until you're a super dope DJ that can outbattle all your friends, refrain from telling anyone ever that you put slipmats on top of the rubber mat and tried to scratch!

your judging his skills performing live based on a video of him from years ago doing something he dosent do in his "performace", it would be like seeing a vid of qbert trying to produce a EDM track on ableton and saying hes an overated scratch DJ (ok sorry for using qbert in a pauly d comparison ill be sure to slap myself as soon as i get done typing) in my opinion routines like this are things to be watched, and justify videos. If he was doing routines like this live yes he should quit and go back to the drawing board, but what he does is please the crowd and make em dance to the songs he wants to hear...very plain and dosent translate well to video when your in a room by yourself.

Your putting your own personal expectations on him and bein pisssed that he falls short. You expect a dj to be up there doing routines,, scratching, being daring on songs, hitting wordplay, and presenting the music to the audience in a fresh way theyve never heard before and your right great DJs do that.....but hes not a great DJ and dosent appear to be trying to be, hes doin what 90% of DJs out there are doing and what most crowds are exprecting\wanting and just giving them the tracks they want to hear. If you really take a step back and look at it you cant knock his desire for it because he gets paid LESS to DJ than he would to just show up THATS HOW HE STARTED GETTING THOSE BIG GIGS. Thats how he got the NOLA gig i went to, i asked some people why they didnt book someone better and give him an apperance fee (it was mardis gras weekend and there was some BIG talent in place as well as celebs) and they told me it was cheaper to book him to DJ than to just show up and stand there so they got a 2 for 1. If he was just a paycheck casher he would go for the apperance gigs....unless hes just a really great busniess man and realises he could play the DJ career a lot longer than the apperance career and in that case you cant knock his hustle

its funney reading about this because i own 5 turntables and all of them were either used\demo\or open boxed so i never had the rubber on it, i have no idea what that would look or feel right

feel like (not right lol)

In the beginning I actually liked that feel better with the rubber man than no rubber mat. It was Platter-Rubber Mat- Wax Paper- Slipmat. Then it started getting less slippery as the weeks went on.
I got some butter rugs recently and they are perfect for me.

Bottom line is that, at least in my opinion, anyone who thinks a DJ battle is the way to win this is krazy, DJ battles only matter to one group of people and thats DJs and DJs already know the deal with dude, anyone who thinks a DJ Battle is the way to win this has obviously never been to a club battle because the best person rarley if ever wins (no offence to any battle winners here), and him winning a battle only legitimizes him more, if you go to the qualifying DMC rounds its just DJs there, battles and skill dont matter to joe Q public, his fame will run its course sooner or later and the money and gigs will dry up, hes a product of pop culture, which is a totally different culture than ours, it has its own rules and cycles.

Agreed on the Jazzy Jeff one Jazzy Jeff is nasty PERIOD!!!!

Just called Him Out On Facebook haha
www.facebook.com

After ALL The Work Real Dj's Put Into There Craft, Someone Please Tell Me How The Hell Is DJ Pauly D On The Americas Top Dj List!? Watch This.
1: Learn To Juggle.
2: Learn What Measures Are And How To Count Them.
3: Stop Starring At The Computer Screen.
4: What Would Happen If You Had To Dj With Real Vinyl, Shoes In A Drier Would Be A Compliment For You.
5: If I Or Any Other Dj Approved This Video Being Posted, We Would Be Completely Embarrassed.
Watch This, And If You Wonder Who Stuck Shoes In The Drier Don't Worry Its Just Pauly D.
Watchwww.youtube.com

I don't even want to try it! The rubber mat is thick as hell too.
technics2.1cis.com

LOL, how old are you again?

And again, you have to put it in the perspective of TODAY's "Standards", and who's actually creating and abiding by the "Standards".

Pauly D is MAJORLY whack to us, because we're "technicians" of the art.

But how many of us are his "fans"?

Now, how many of his true "Fans" think Pauly D is whack?

Not a whole lot, or else he wouldn't be packin' the places....

I just said - "more my personal standards then anyone else" No one called me out.
And no one would call me out because there had already been so much wack ass shit going on for years that nothing even mattered anymore.



There is not a parallel, because I was not drawing one. But to try to draw one - suppose I was being top billed over DJ Klever and people were talking shit because of it. No one would even have to be 'hating' on me. I would do whats proper and gracefully yield my position and open for him instead of the other way around.

Matter of fact Ive been in positions where my rap group was too high on a bill - we changed the order making sure we were opening where we should have been.





No, Im not. I said "if" this is an indication of his skill level (just like you say below where - we agree)



And the reason he can get away with this is because 'the crowd' (nowadays) is dumb and un(sub)cultured.



No, I am not pissed at him (I am hating the game, not the player) And whos standards am I supposed to use if not my own.

What I am doing is taking Ps word (because I respect it) on the situation - that DJ Pauly D does not deserve the position he is in = "BEST DJ"



no thats not exactly what I expect from him. But I would probably have nothing to say if there was a reason for the "BEST DJ" in ANY reasonable category.

no Tiesto, no DJAM?



LOL - which means he was paying to play



Everyone knows you can milk the 'celebrity dj game' longer then the '15 min of fame game.'



Now, for what he should do: Battle P
Then he should invite P to tour (if he would want to) And even if DJ Pauly D is Top Billed he should open up for P.

but what if you were billed higher than Klever and you drew a larger crowd and had more support even though your skills were subpar??

The reason clubs have headliners and they play late (even in concerts for that matter) is so that people stay there longer because the most people will wait for the act. If the most popular people go 1st then people leave afterwards...its not a skill thing its a popularity thing.




So your saying pauly D should throw his career away for DJ P.....because why again?? What does pauld D owe to DJ P. The game D is in is a busniess pure and simple, look at in in terms of another industry, if you opened a Burger kind next to a Ruth Chris steak house and at 9'oclock you are completley full and their dead, are you going to star sending people over to them? Are you going to go over to them afterwards and give them half your profits because their foods better?? Are you going to start advertising that they have better food than you??

Man I see a lot of Nik39-ism going on. He use to be to only one who would draw like 8 quotes on one post.

Pauly let that wack BATTLE routine up on youtube - he is not just showing up at clubs and doing a poor job on some whatever gets money shit - he is talking shit about how good he is, ACTING like he knows what he is doing. PRETENDING to be down. "BEST DJ"??? - P is not wrong for challenging that bullshit.


The reason hip-hop is so fucked up nowadays is WE let any old bullshit ride like nothings wrong. Politics, money, afraid of being called a hater, just lazy, whatever the reason - because WE lowered the standards down to zero, anyone new to this has no idea what it is supposed to be like.

Beyond that, P is making a POINT. thats what this is about, not like he needs to test skills. Its about SHOWING skill. Showing skill to people who otherwise have no clue. If even one Pauly fan gets educated by looking into what this situation is about and finding out there is a culture behind it, good.

hip-hop is dead because no one is will to call out weak shit

EXACTLY!! Thank you AKIEM! You can think what you want djjohnnyM but you need to read this quote and my post a few more times then maybe you will get it. I don't care about Hollywood,money, or getting shine! I have gotten plenty of shine and money already and its good enough for me.
I do agree with you on what difference does it make to hollywood and club owners. Because they sure the hell don't get it! I learned that in Vegas! No one cares ANYMORE about the skill or the art form. But i sure the hell do!!
Your RIGHT! Pauly D is in the running with Q BERT,MIXMASTER MIKE, JAZZY JEFF,CUT CHEMIST,GRAND MASTER FLASH, and more dope pioneer dj's who are way better than him! Bottom line he is OUT OF HIS ELEMENT!! Listen to yourself man! If he wins over those cats as BEST DJ are you KIDDING ME!!??
Don't you see what has happened to this culture!? Or maybe you don't know about this culture. It's all about votes and popularity! The whole industry is WACK!
I'm not one to spend a lot of time posting on line. As a matter of fact i never really did until i decided to call out Pauly D. Plus i am not going to argue with anyone. Maybe your right. I should just let it go because you and i both know he won't except anything that would make him look bad in his "dj" career. Same goes for any other celebrity who is cashing in on the culture. Who am i anyway right? I'm not dating a celebrity or on some fake tv show showing my abs.
Maybe someday Pauly D will be a good dj and i hope he does. But he has NOT earned the title for BEST DJ by FAR!! You and Pauly D should be smart enough to know that!!
See you all later! It was great posting here and reading your comments. KEEP IT REAL!
DJP ROCK STEADY CREW

lol he also hasnt won it so i guess the worlds at peace LOL, mabye you should challenge the people who put him on that list to a batle, thats where you real beef seems to be

you know, in other industries, hustle alone doesn't get you anywhere unless you have the talent or skill (or both) to back it up.

In the entertainment industry tho, hustle and press get you farther than skill and talent and to me that's fucked up.

Sure there's plenty of politics, nepotism, and dick sucking going on in every industry, but someone who knows is clearly an amateur would *never* get to the level of where someone like Pauly D is money-wise.

Personally, I refuse to be resigned to thinking that's just the way it is and I hope more people with actual passion to the art of DJing would think the same way and keep trying to push talent ahead of a quick buck...

But I guess times are tough, but the short-sighted nature of booking someone like Pauly D means the art and culture of DJing is definitely in danger. The lower the bar gets put, the less people have to aspire towards meaning an overall drop in quality...

I liked it. When you put the rubber mat on, it holds the wax paper so it doesn't move. Then the slipmat over that gives it a good feel.

err 14.........

your crazy, i dont know if youve done much work in the corporate world but most management has NO IDEA what their doing, they get there from smoozing with people. As a matter of fact in alot of places talent gaurentees you WONT move up because they need your talent where it is.

If that is TRULY the case, then you can battle him on some low-key *ish. Why try to "Educate" Hollywood and HIS fans?

I've been DJ'ing since 1978, and have seen HipHop born, lived through the best years, and have seen what it's deteriorated into.

What you're trying to battle is THE GAME. You by yourself will not win that battle. Only if ALL prominent DJ's who have a VOICE, and who CARE, would band together and attack THE GAME would there be some type of impact.

Same thing when Cash Money was goin' after that other dude...Who cares?

Like I said, with this cat's visibility right now, you should TEACH HIM what's really good, and use him to uplift the game....well, at least maintain some integrity of it by teaching him to beatmatch.

Thanks for your response tho, but rise above the BS man....unless of course, you're trying to cash a check....

Like the rest of us.

And what "roots" do you know of...lol.?

We all know this...but WHO is really putting stock in that list?

C'mon son.

cmon man
P didnt say he wanted to fight the guy or shoot him LOL
he called him out to BATTLE
you know the drill

Dude, it's about Technology and THE DOLLAR.

Technology itself has added to the artform, but it has also diluted it. No more carrying crates, and digging. That element of DJ'ing is GONE.

Now, EVERYONE has access to ALL the music they want, WHEN they want it. The public and corporations are calling the shots, and DJ's are now just an avenue to convey the music to the public with a human element.

Even that HUMAN ELEMENT is in danger....

Y'all need to stop worrying about Pauly D, and worry more about Intelligent DJ software.

Dude, YOU KNOW I'm all about the battle...

But you battle your PEERS or Collegues...

Not people that are out of your league.

Props - Johnny, I was crawling on the ground and shitting in my diapers back then...

LOL, thanks for that info...

Lol, this thread is done.

I was originally taking the stance on this issue that Pauly D makes money, who gives a shit.

But after reading ALL these post, I'm realizing how lazy I've been. We (as DJ's) have been so passive for so long, that the world has no fucking clue what a DJ is. They think a jukebox and a DJ are pretty much the same thing. I wish there were more people with the status to get attention and the balls to do something like what P is trying to do.

My girlfriend told one of her friends that I was a DJ the other day. Her friend says "Oh, like Pauly D." If I could I would smack the shit out of that bitch. NO NOT LIKE PAULY D. I have more DJ skill in one pubic hair than Pauly D will ever have in his entire lifetime.

SOMEBODY needs to points these things out. I can't believe not every single mutherfucka on this board doesn't have DJ P's back.

BATTLE


what league, the popularity league?
because thats the only thing left

I have to agree. But I'm sayin, if you play for the NBA, what business do you have challenging a college kid to a game of 21?

A battle ain't gonna do it.

Reach out to those who are well respected, are large in the game, and organize some type of protest against "Whack" DJ's...or should I say "Celebrity" DJ's.

Make it nationwide, motivate those sitting back to make some noise....

But you KNOW, a lot of those who are "On" right now, who don't have skills, ain't gonna be down for the cause.

You know what other element of DJ'ing is gone? The element of taking music as it was created and being dope enough to mix it in without having to create an 'edit'. THAT is the part of DJ'ing that I miss the most. All day long on Twitter I see DJs say "headin' to the club after I finish a few more edits'. Damn I miss the days when we could say 'wow, I have a hell of a time mixing that track in because of the way it starts. Great job with that!' Now every DJ is a producer and its all about having better edits or more unique edits than another.

Again, that's technology helping and at the same time, diluting the art.

check out this mix pauly d made last month.. SMH.

soundcloud.com

I can put it in any "standards" that I want. 'the standards' were created by the collective - never always agreed upon but they used to exist.



Its not just because we are the technicians, its because we come from a time when standards even existed. Now there are none, and damn near anything goes.

Reminds me of when Bud Bundy (the actor) got a record deal. Too bad he wasnt around nowadays - he would have had a career. Maybe not as a rapper, but guaranteed as a 'celebrity dj'




If it I where getting called out on it, I would let him get his proper spot.
because Im not a fucking crab



YES - we know its a popularity thing. This is whats wrong with the situation!

Thats the point - shit is fucked up.

and we can keep drawing up scenarios all day - so then Pauly can tell the dumbfuck crowd that he is going to take his shirt off at 1:45 and they will all stay - whatever



First let me say, the idea of them working together is more of an illustration about respect and shit.

But I dont know why Pauly would be throwing his career away. If anything he would be enhancing it giving it longevity and credibility


If someone dropped mill in my hand and I opened a crappy burger spot next to a 20 year old established stake house. goddamned right I would be over there every day trying to be schooled. And I would recommend that place everyone I could, because I know that his costumers are going to grab burgers for the kids. And I would work together with him to keep the crime out the neighborhood, and bring more shops to the street and whatever to keep the property value up. And spark plenty of employe sports compititions.....

Because they don't know any better... and why? Because we all stopped caring on the notion that they stopped caring, it's a vicious cycle and we as Dj's need to change that. The more I hear the lame ass excuse on these boards that "the crowd doesn't care anymore anyway...they're all sheep" is the more I'm disappointed in the Dj's... not the crowd. Why? Because it's not their fault if nobody's showing them any different. Everyone who's just accepted that the crowd doesn't care and has become a lazy ass Dj with no desire to teach them any better is contributing to the shitfest this game has become.




LOL what do you think this thread is about? A Dj who has decided to take the first step, if more of us follow and start calling out this bullshit, and do more as far as introducing the crowds to the real deal, the more familiar they'll become with the artform.

That's exactly what this thread is about and half of you have become so detached that you're actually fighting against a man who wants to push for a change. Isn't this what we all sit around and do all day? Complain about how shitty this thing of ours has become? Now that a dude steps up you want to shake your head and naysay?

I don't give a fuck about Pauly D, he's irrelevant to me... I actually have less of a problem with Pauly D than some celeb's kid getting paid 10 g's to stand around and pose while saying "I don't really care about Djing, it's modeling that I'm focusing on" (this is from another thread). The game has become so fucked up and we've all stopped caring so the blame is on us, not the crowd.

However if Dj P wants to stand up and say fuck it, let him take the first shot. Is it going to stop you from playing your bullshit pop tracks at your shitty ass bar/club that you all complain about here on Monday morning? Or is that actually what you're afraid of? Probably not so let the man do his thing, the more cats that actually wake up and follow suit the more life we can breathe back in this scene.

I've said it a dozen times before on these boards, what are you as a Dj doing to change your situation? Fuck all, so as you say "don't hate on Pauly D" for doing his thing, don't hate on Dj P for doing his if you're not doing anything your damn self to change what you all bitch about.

+1000 to Dj P for believing in this thing enough that he's willing to throw himself out there and take heat for what we're all thinking anyway. (At least most of us who haven't started a "I got my first gig!" thread in the last little while). The scene is a farce and it has less to do with Pauly D personally than it does with our rolling over and letting it happen. Pauly D just happens to be the poster boy for that bastard stepchild of a once respectable scene, and if you're going to make a statement might as well go all the way to the top.

There needs to be a new competition or title for DJ's. Americas Best DJ is a bullshit popularity contest and DMC got way too technical after Craze shut it down. In the 90's being DMC champ meant you were hands down the best DJ.

Now DMC barely holds any credibility because other DJ's think "he can scratch but he can't rock a party."

There needs to be a new title for DJ's to strive for that puts the spotlight on real DJ's who can rock parties.

Problem with that is that could turn into a popularity contest itself, all you gotta do is roll with a few carloads of people and you're already at an advantage.

My dude, the climate is such that those who actually HAVE skills aren't put in a position to say anything anymore....i.e. getting undercut by a "button pusher", if you will, and NOT stepping up their game to maintain their postion.

So yeah, that's the Laziness factor, but you also have to factor in what we're talking about here.

We're talking about a CULTURE that is based on "Challenging" each other, or battling.

There is no UNITY in that, and you won't get cats to band together BECAUSE some crab is gonna do something to bring the next man down.

Once you change the MINDSET of those in Hiphop to come together and AGREE on at least ONE THING, then you're on your way.

Other than that, you're fighting something that was not meant to exist as 1 united force.

You have subgroups trying to get ON, and there are so many hungry cats out there willing to cut the next man, vs. help them, that it will not work out.

You really just need 2 categories...

Real DJ's and Celebrity DJ's, and keep the groups separate.

If we DIDN'T CARE what Celebrity DJ's did, none of this would matter to us.

We're worried about what's going on OVER THERE --------------->>>>>

Actually i forgot to mention that in regards to people who don't get why P would go at someone like Pauly D. Like i said, he's at the top of a scene that P takes issue with, it's fair game. Less to do with Pauly D than a scene that's fucked up...casualty of war.

I understand your other points though and agree 50%, the reason I say 50% is because with the younger hungrier cats you are going to get cats that are just calling out dudes on some crab shit, but you will also get legitimate dudes doing the same and competition that focuses more on the skill set than the accessories and image can't be all that bad..

However you also have us veterans who are less interested in the head to head personal challenges, but the health of the scene in general. I don't care about battling anymore, but I do care about stepping it up in the interest of exposing the crowd to something most of us fell in love with years ago yet long forgot about.

Yes unity is important, I'm on a three day break from tour back in my home city, but I was reminded of some of the unhealthy competitive attidue while on the road when encountering some Dj's who felt threatened and were more interested in their own shine rather than what we were supposed to be doing out there, warming the crowd up for the actual artist that people came to see, it's not about us it's about the main show. The vets were no problem, we all got along in various cities but i did see some of the crab mentality in some of the younger heads. So I'm with you there, I just don't think we can generalize all of the newer generation like that.

Again, my interest lies more with showing the crowd that there's more to this thing, i don't care if we all hold hands or slit each others throats in the process, i'm just tired of seeing Dj's accept things as the way they are while hating what they have to put up with in the process.

Ok, and you know what? I do have to give credit to DJ P, as even if I don't think his approach will really reap anything fruitful, it IS an approach.

And that's better than cats sitting back whining about "The Game" and not doing anything about it.

I still stand by my argument that Battling him is not the answer, uplifting THE GAME as a whole is....and none of the elements that we are disgusted at would be able to survive.

+100

I'm bored...... Oh Audio 1 posted a new mix. I'll be over there

Agreed, this is my main underying point and has been in several topics where Dj's are not happy with their/the scene's current situation.






I'm not sure if it will even garner a response, I doubt Pauly D would even know how to react to the challenge, especially without having to consult with his imaging team first LOL. However in the meantime I will support Dj P's right to challenge a scene he is fed up with. And no matter how it does play out, it will be interesting to watch. It got all of us talking in the process, and if only a few Dj's take in what we've been discussing and come up with their own progressive approach... like you said, at least it's an approach. It's better than sitting around talking about how much it all sucks every Monday morning.

I haven't had a chance to check it out yet, I'm back on the road tomorrow so I might take as travel material.

They forget what got them to the position they're in today. Or what they did to get to where they are today.

you can check out my new mixes while you're at it - both completely non-clubby/top 40/electro oriented:

jazz/bossanova mix: serato.com

future dancehall/glitch mix: serato.com

disco/house mix: serato.com

:)

ok its official you may possibly be the worst busnessman on the planet, i now understand why you dont get the situation with pauly *(no pun intended), becasue the game he is playing is the busniess\corporate game and you just werent built for that

SHAMELESS!!!!!!!!!!

hahaaaaaa

you are talking about me? I am bad at business and thats why I am not in Pualy Ds shoes?
if you say so

(not that this has hardly anything to do with it)
you never heard of a neighborhood association? and when someone asks you where they can get a steak you are going to send them crosstown instead of the place next door? and when their place gets robbed you wont call the cops? and you hope the guys place gets burnt out?

and I am the worst businessman on the planet because I would do the oposite?

let me guess, this Burger King is in East Oakland, aint it?

LOL whos talking about calling the cops, im talking about marketing yourself and moving up in the busniess world and your talkin bout cops and robbers lol the entire concept of what im talking about is flying totally over your head its busniess managment and marketing 101

there is more to a successful business then marketing



the point you were trying to make is that Pauly D would be throwing his carrer away by battling P. I dont see how or why - did Pauly build his so called carrer off battling? Are any of his 'fans' going to leave him because he lost a battle? none of them even care about that shit. all they care about is his dumb ass being on tv. he would probably gain fans even by loosing.

No i was saying hed be throwing his career away by inviting P on tour and Having him headline, you dont headline then step down and say someones better than step back up as a headliner, especially when your a 15 minute of famer, not to mention by inviting another DJ to tour your splitting money you would have made all on your own.

The point im making is P NEEDS this battle, the DJ community knows him but this is a chance to put him in the Pauly D TMZ mainstream community because all a talented DJ like him needs is a mainstream break. Pop culture latches on quick. On the other hand Pauly dosent NEED this battle at all, he already HAS the big gig and the pop culture community, the only people against him are DJs and the DJ culture, and even if he wins he wont gain their respect of our culture theyll just say it was a popularity contest so why even have the battle, he has NOTHING to gain from it.

If you need me to break it down even simpler look at rocky 3 LOL, Rocky was the champ, he was on top, it was all engineered but in the public eyes he was the best EVER! Then an unknown Mr T came along, noone knew this cat, he NEEDED the fight, it could only help him and it could only hurt rocky and rockys dumb ass put him in the spotlight on some ego shit and got his manager killed and his ass whooped, except with pauly D his entire carrer is engineered and he KNOWS it, a 15 minute famer aint gonna get a rematch.

You guys should agree to disagree. It's like watching a dog running in circles chasing his short tail. It's funny because he never catches it.

If opening destroys carers there wouldnt even be anything called a 'show'.

If Pauly wants more then 15 he might be able to legitimize himself as a DJ. He could do that by touring with and being schooled by a real DJ.




why do you think P is trying to get on TMZ?

LOL the worst part he he ends up proving my point in each of his rebuttals and dosent even realise it. There is a huge dissconect between the imaginary rules and morals of the artform and the real world practices of busniess.



Because thats Pauly Ds crowd!! That is the audience that DOSENT have a clue who DJ P is and loves pauly D, thats the crowd who Pauly D is playing for, its for the people who watch TMZ so they can see every moment of linsey lohan going to jail, watch every reality TV show so they can be in the know, only know whats played on the radio, and think lil wayne is a lyrical genious. Thats the pop world that Pauly D lives in, its also the way AM got mainstream, he dated a celebrity and that pop world embraced him, he was on TMZ like 10 times an hour, he was so embraced by the pop world his death was on TMZ hours before legit news picked it up. DJ P HAS respect in this from our culture and the DJ world hes not gaining any more respect by battling pauly, this battle would be the equivilent of NAS calling out soulja boy and challenging him to a freestyle battle so he can show soulja boys fans what a REAL lyricist is.....when the truth is none of soulja boys fans care about lyrics and dont expect them from SB, the only people who would care would be hip hop heads and they ALREADY hate soulja boy and love nas

The artform would not even exist if it wernt for the actual rules, morals and ethics. And if the only thing anyone ever deals with is a cashflow bottom line then the artform will be dead.

This is the situation that P is protesting by calling out Pauly. He is saying that the famous bottom line mentality is some bullshit.

If you think that shit great - fine.
you be you, let me know when you make it to TMZ


I dont see anyplace where P said some shit like:
"Yeah I fucking NEED this battle so I can get on tv."

What P actually did say:








^^^ thats suposed to be why DJ P is trying to get on TMZ?
LOL



If none of Pauly Ds fans cared about his DJ skills then they would not be voting him "BEST DJ". If SB is getting voted "Best Lyricist" then NaS should challenge him

ill let someone waaaaaaayyyy more qualified than me answer this

someone still has to play the part of Kweli or Common -
otherwise they would both be Jay-Z too

exactly......now when did you ever see common or kweli going on twitter saying jay z isnt representing for lyricists and challenging him to a battle?? They dont they stay in their lane because their doing 2 seperate things and are shooting for 2 seperate crowds

Like it or not theres a huge demographic out there that wants to here real soulful thought out music, backpacker style underground true lyricists and dont give a fuck what rims you have or whats in your bank accound, and theres a totally opposite group that just wants to bounce around to ignorance, they dont give 2 fucks what the rappers saying as long as they put out that trill vibe and have a great beat. Both audiences are valid in their own way, same for DJing you have crowds that recognise skill (DJ P crowd) and you have crowds that just want their song played as they heard it on the radio so they can dance to it and sing along. 2 different crowds both are valid in their own ways and they support who they want to support with their money. They make their own choice. The ignorant crowd dosent WANT a soulful real lyricist to educate them on the other choice and why its better they MADE their choice

different issue

so what?
who ever said we are talking about the best business move?
(except for pauly legitimizing)






thats because Pauly aint no fucking Jay-Z!
LOL

damn it, we all need to sit down have a beer, not lewis since hes 14... and all agree that pauly d has beat us because he was on tv, hell look at spencer pratt, that little douche could probably fill up a club while doing nothing, anyways lets sit back, and listen to pauly d beat up the beat while we claw our ears out... www.djcity.com

LOL at Rocky 3 analogy

Whoah whoah whoah. I can have beer..... Root Beer

Not at all its the exact same issue, DJ P is represented but the backpacker lyricists and Pauly D in this example is the southern style ignorant DJ, theres room for both. And if you REALLY REALLY look at it, that list of best DJ encompases many styles of DJing.......The term DJ today is an all encompassing term, theres many different categories, you have scratch DJs mashup DJS, party Rockers, Celebrity DJs....and that list has all of these. Now tell me in the category of celebrity DJ is there a better DJ that Pauly D?? He could in fact be the best of his catagory.

And on the DJ P\TMZ thing i STILL think its all a crock, why would you battle the worst person on the list to prove something, Allen iverson got a spot on the allstar team last year after a horrible season and not even playing, did kobe challenge him to a 1 on 1 game to prove he was better, NO, because the important people already know whats up, the only reason hes getting called out is because he has a spotlight. If you want to prove a point battle someone BETTER than you and earn the #1 title yourself, or put the spotlight on someone who SHOULD be the #1 instead of putting all the attn on someone whos forgettable in the 1st place.

Hell if DJ P REALLY wants to help the game out and show the world a REAL DJ why doesnt he LEARN from pauly D and go get on a TV show, get a spotlight on himself and get the attn that D has and then put his skills on display and educate the masses himself?

Becasue we are talking about Pauly D who is NOT an artist hes a busniess man cashing checks

I have a question for you, if pauly D was the resident at your local club and it was the biggest club in town, tons of exposure, and their owners called you up and said you have the chance to take his spot there.....but you had to play there for free. Would you take it?? You would be paid $0 no money but you would have the largest corwd possible to educate them on our culture. Would you take the gig

You guys need to just PM each other or give it a rest. You're killing the thread. I doubt anyone is reading outside of you two. Good lawd have mercy

how are we killing the thread about dj p\pauly d by discussing dj p and pauly d....anyone else is free to jump in at any time

i love lamp

Pauly D is the new Dj Am...

smh