ill be rockin' this all night!

now i have a real reason to stay up at night. the girlfriend can take her crappy attitude back home.

It's about 6 hours now I'm playing with Beta 1.7 and everything is going well .
Thanks

Fell into the beat grid right away nice interface and easy to figure out without reading any support docs. There are some issues with efx though but I bet you are all aware of it, the reverse and repeat aren't functioning properly. Still shaking it down but I like what I see :) good work!

Mine froze when I hit 'censor' button. I tried to replicate it, but it won't freeze again.

Running strong so far, played on it for about 2 hours loving it no issues as yet .

Is there a way to verify what has been added to this version so far?

Yes. Click on the link.

Effects such as flanger and phaser are 5x better in this version! Sounds like pro pioneer mixer effects at last!

Played for 2 hours or so, so far so good. Enjoying the improvements.

I m gonna try it tonight in a Gig...get the risk... ;)

beat grids are kinda interesting...hmmmm must investigate further if time permits! so deep into ableton lessons right now LOL

Just installed 1.7 along side 1.6, but when I open 1.7 Itch says the hardware is disconnected (Xone DX). Tried reset, but didn't work.

Then after a few moments I get a message that says Itch failed to update firmware - tried multiple times.

Not sure why, anyone else have this problem?

Also, it says hardware disconnected in 1.6 now. =(

orvekio, please submit a bug report in the public beta area and we'll sort it out
- same goes for anyone else having a problem

Will do, thanks.

Ok, not sure if this is a glitch or just not what I was expecting.. but where is the beatgrid effect?? Only thing I can find is how to set the beatgrids correctly to a song and have it mark every 1/4 count... Isn't there more to the story?? like those 4/4 boxes to change things around??

One thing I have to say is it now PERFECTLY matches 2 tracks BPM's for the WHOLE song!!!!

That's it.

What about the 4/4 or 16/16 squares that you could change the beat with?? what was that then??

It's not my idea but I think that the sound is much more better than 1.5, the only thing is that you have to use gains more often than before .

the beatgrid effect is something that is an effect in virtualDJ it is NOT the same thing as the beat grid in ITCH

AHHH.... So Itch just matches the beats better now with it right?? Or is there something I'm missing?

Wasn't sure if I should post this in the bug area or what but I have something new poping up on my screan all the time now. LIMITER.. Staying orange and red most of the time when I'm playing around with the tracks alot. And my CPU is up ALOT higher then 1.5.. I'm running on 5ms just like I was on 1.5. No drop outs, but I havn't played for more then 15 min at a time to play around.

if your limiter indicator is coming on that means you're hitting the limiter - try reducing your track gains or increasing your headroom (in the setup>mixer menu)

when you say your CPU is a lot higher, can you give actual numbers?

yeah i however would love the vdj style beatgrid in ITCH at some point :)

Does the Limiter have to do with sound levels then?? My gain's are at the 1/2 mark and they never move since I got the NS7 ( lol ).. What is Head room?? is that something new too?? About my CPU.. It used to stay in the lower 1/4... now it peaks in the red

--> Kraal... Ok.. then I got too excited over beatgrid.. lol.. Once I get it down and understand it better it should help alot though!

Subdriven,
can you please create a bug report for the increased CPU load, it's pretty hard for me to say anything about it without knowing your system specs.

subdriven --- yes remember itch will start compressing the audio once it hit levels that may start distortion ( i dont know technical terms) so the head rooms adjustment is new and gives you the options of playing at a lower max level so you can tweek and twist adding bass and trims ect without worrying about distortion

K and thanks to both.. lol

Can we get a discusion area about 1.7 to talk about things that are not bugs( or maybe be one and we just don't know) like new things that we don't understand yet?? like the headroom and messing with beatgrids on tracks?? or whousl we use this one??

Like I have a question.. I have a song that is straight 127 bpm. At one point in the song it slows down like if you turned off your platter on a vinyl TT and then kicks back in at true speed. At this point the bpm are not true anymore and everything after that is messed up. I've tried to reset a marker at the point where it kicks back in but it messes up the whole first section of the song too.. there is 2 of these sections of the song where you can not just lay a bpm over it..

Nvm.. Ok.. found of if I put a marker right BEFORE the temp drop and another when it kicks back in, the rest matches up... is this the right way to do it?

i agree....the sound i s much much better

@ Subdriven

You need to read up on audio terms:
serato.com

And this for beagrids:
serato.com

LMAO... i laughed sooooo loud. "it's funny because it's trueeee" i'll be investigating this too. Where are the release notes?

Not distortion: hard limiting. I personally LIKE the limiter to kick in while "tweaking" stuff, as it smoothens things out by keeping the output volume constant. But others may like more dynamics, so they may want to keep the headroom setting lower.

CPU usage is definitely higher on 1.7 I have not seen any ill effects though...

+ 1

Now instead of staying at a steady 40-60% it now goes from maxed out to practically nothing all the time. I know it's gonna spike when you load songs, but it does it for no reason sometimes. It hasn't frozen yet, except hat one time I used the censor button.

Just shut down those tube8 Flash videos in the background :-)

(just kidding)

I knew there were issues with the other iTch version's effects... ESPECIALLY in comparison to SSL and the effects on a TTM 57. I'll be trying this version tonight.

thanks like i said i don't know the technical terms to explain

+1 EFX in this version sound way better...I will NOW be using them quite often.

I think i read that 1.7 re-analyzes songs on load for beatgrid. This may be why you are seeing higher cpu usage. Manually Re-analyze all your tracks and see if you still have high cpu

Playing v1.7 for about 2 hours I just couldn’t take my hands off my VCI300!
Great job, guys! Love beatgrids – at last, sync works!!!

If you could only “fix” this annoying thing about Pitch Shift so that when it’s in the middle and we adjust percentage, stays in the middle (you know: from 0 – 6% to 0 – 8% and not … 3% - 8%!!).

A big hug to you all there at Serato – loving ITCH every day even more.

!!! ^^what that person said. I love you guys at serato.

Just curious. I dont' remeber if it did it to me in 1.5 but I only get the 2nd half of a wave lengh ont he screen in I move through a track. the first half comes either WAY later or not at all. I have to scroll back with the mouse just a hair and it appears.. Never realy paid attention to it till I started tracking beatgrids int he track.... Is this a glitch ? should I post it in the beta area?? or was it like that to start with?

itch is designing to build from play point forward just cause it assumes that that is the direction you are moving so it is not a glitch... from stort point to end of track the beginning of track is the priority

ok...

i'd say post a help thread... because thats your computer trying to catch up with the action of itch.. everyones does that, but mine loads the skipped part up pretty quick.

Hi guys

This is a lovely version at last (Beta 1.7). Loving it! Beatgrids at last! One small feature that I think is missing which will make ITCH awesome is Needle Drop at any point in the track quantized or snapped on. As if you are skipping from the beginning of the song to the end or basically any point of the song without skipping. Almost similar to what you can do in Traktor Pro.

I hope this is the write place for this request. Good job Serato!!!

Cheers

Raffg

I am talking across all controllers not just DX! Sometimes you wanna cut a song short without actually killing the groove or just cut mixing it and this where Track Pad skipping to any point comes handy. It would be a nice addition.

ah..you mean using the mouse?

Yeah, I think it would be nice too to have it relative to where the tracks are either via the trackpad and mouse or controller.

@ Subdriven, this issue has been reported as a bug.

hi rorz

How can this be a bug? It never was implemented in the first place!

HI Raffig,

I agree.

Guy's could you all carry on your discussion's on the Public board please...

This thread was for Announcement only.

If you have bug or issues, just open up a help/bug ticket.


Cheers

Hi Cid

Isnt this where we discuss the Beta 1.7? Features? Bugs?

Here it is : serato.com

it'll be awesome if flossy fx is built into it, or something similar.

and multi track for ns7 will be very useful too!

I checked out the beatgrid tutorial and it says when you want to edit the grid you need to line the waveform up to the play marker and hit "set". WHERE THE HELL IS THE SET BUTTON!

X key on your keyboard

For when we can enjoy more complete serato itch with midi section, samples and other tools as serato? All my support and gratification for developers of Serato ITCH, Greetings!

1.7 as said is a maintenance release ,so when we gonna see a new evolution in itch , a lot of people are still waiting for vsl support and more . since 2009 we still waiting for this , any estimated wait time?

Beatgrid is certainly an evolution, even if it isn't what you in particular are looking for. I probably won't be using beatgrid either, honestly, but just keep in mind everything happens a step at a time (particularly since ITCH needs to be a stable and reliable solution for professional DJs).

Hope the features you want will be added soon, I'll keep fingers crossed for you :)

thanks ltern

the new feature HEADROOM in 1.7 puts 0db - 18db but the more headroom i noticed the volume is lowering.

My main problem is when i connect my VCI 300 to another mixer the volume is already very low compared to the cd decks that are connected. At the moment im raising the master full on the VCI 300 and the gain on the other mixer is turned up more than usual to get the balance volume level right with the cd decks volume.

So i need this HEADROOM feature to give me more master volume output rather than less. Could that be possible?

Another detail i think could improve is when browsing through the history section and selecting a track normally once you select it, it then automatically shows you that track in the new date and time at the bottom of the history selection. Its annoying to scroll back up to find the next track form an old history date. So it would be great that if you select it then the view stays where you last selected it. If you want to look at the new up date you can scroll down to view it, but i think its more important to get to your tracks quickly ;)

I am sure that is the desired outcome. "The lower it is, the louder the sound output."

@ ad77 are you talking about Beta 1 or 2, in 2 they added the overdriving functionality back, but incorporated it into the new HEADROOM function, try that version and see how you like it now.

Do the creates auto update i.e. without having to rebuild them once you've added new songs?

what about music videos?

no and no.

not go with BPM,with many songs not try the correct BPM,please correct this.

Quote:
the new feature HEADROOM in 1.7 puts 0db - 18db but the more headroom i noticed the volume is lowering.

Thank you Dj Beware this problem is confirmed solved with 1.7 Beta 2. Before i was using Beta 1 when it had that problem.

Cheers! :)

Quote:
not go with BPM,with many songs not try the correct BPM,please correct this.

Yes Serato this is a serious problem that needs to get solved. Even when i fill in the correct bpm in the bpm section it still reads the wrong bpm when i load the track. With some tracks it has this problem.

why do i get a static noise when i record using Aux and recording from an external source?
This does not happen when i mix internally set to "mix'". I did not have the Earth cable attached. Could that be the reason?

why do i get a static noise when i record using Aux and recording from an external source?
This does not happen when i mix internally set to "mix'". I did not have the Earth cable attached. Could that be the reason?

(I forgot to mention that i was connected to the Thru. with Thru On)

After al lot of frustration it seems that Serato did a great job to get rid of the crashes and other problems. Playing for a week now and really thinking of performing tonight with the NS7.
It runs quite okay, sometimes the double takes the tempo at half tempo but that all I can find.
Thanks guys!

If the pitch fader position on the deck you are instant doubling to is closer to half or double the bpm of the incoming track, the bpm will be set to that. This is a feature.

Okay might be usefull one day but how to double the bpm again? Change the pitch position and load the song again?

Djeez, I learn everyday something new...

Yeah me to, seems that Itch has more to offer than you might thing in the first place. Just found this "feature" in the buglist so the are more peeps who did't knew this.
Anyway, bigups

Hey guys, someone may have asked this already and I know this is the wrong foum but I can't post to anywhere but here. Are they making the bridge able to be used with Itch or just SSL??

But the beta only works with SSL. Correct?

correct, if you want to complain there are like 6 threads complaining about it... join one of them.

Lol ok normally I would but for some reason it only lets me post here. Thanks!

Where are they? I can't find them....

who cares it wont accomplish anything..... thebridge will be out later for ITCH so instead of complaining start preping your stuff for ableton live

Dude, I've been using Ableton for years but thanks for the tip. I appreciate it.

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from the last week...

Love v1.7.
It looks better, runs smoother, loads tracks up quicker, and the beatgrids actually work! Bloody brilliant!
:)

PS When is The Bridge released?

Good luck on the ps part bro............lol