You have to do it by your own, first you have to update the Firmware 3.0; you can download the latest version here: pioneer.jp
and check the video that explains how to do it: Watchwww.youtube.com

Cheers from Mexico!

Thanks Richie, but I meant Native HID support..

I really want to use some of the more advanced mapping features on the CDJ's, and get away from the primitive time code platform.

I really enjoy my Pio MEP-7000, but I crave the larger CDJ jog wheels.

Hey guys, heres a link to a thread which outlines what we are doing about Native support for the Pioneer CDJ-900 and CDJ-2000

www.serato.com

Samuel, the last post by serato was made in december 2009. There is no info in that post outlining what serato is doing about support.

Is this a joke? are you trying to tell me in not so many words, that what you're doing about cdj-900 and 2000 support is "Nothing??"

Yeah there is info. Here's part of what Sam said:



If you read futhre, he also said it's not a trivial upgrade.

So, now we're just entering Q2 - they still have 2.5 months to release support...

im questioning if it will ever happen, for the 900 anyway.

Unless they're lying when they said it would be done Q2 2010, then you can probably assume it will be done Q2

checkit!

forums.pioneerdj.com

Still, no peep from serato...

got any update guys???

And please don't link to a 7 month old thread..

thanks.

Hey Holden Caulfield,

We are still working on support for the Pioneer CDJ900 and CDJ2000, development takes a lot of time but it should be coming soon. We have been spending a lot of time to make sure that it is really awesome!

Samuel S,

Hey, any word yet on CDJ2000 being controlled HID/Native? ETA? Last time I read was mid April... Is it going to be on the next updated ver. of SL, 2.1?

Thanks,
Ddella07

its taking soooooo long :(

patience is a good skill to learn :)

or selling serato and just using rekordbox, that way you dont need patience....or lots of messy wires!! :)

unfortunately rekordbox is still buggy. I'd be worried using that system with all of the network problems they've had lately. I think they'll eventually get it all straightened out, but there are still some bugs to sort out...

iv heard this, altho i havent tried it myself. anyway im hoping serato have got this in the bag and will be running native support in june like they said!!!

I was using RB and it was working great for a couple of parties but then I tried to search for a song on the 2000 and it crashed RB, so no more for me till they work these bugs out of the software

tick... tick... tick....

we're at the 15th...

Any idea how we're looking? we still on time for a q2 update to accommodate those who bought HID CDJs because they were "Natively supported by Serato?"

Still hopeful....

looks like a new firmware is to be released on the pioneer side:

forums.pioneerdj.com

its stupid....why dont we get a DATE!!! iv been using rekordbox and im likeing!!!

Rekordbox is very unstable. Good luck with that live.

its been spot on so far! better sound quality, and the use of the cdj is much better. as for playing live, the clubs i do only have cdj 1000mk3s so i will have no need for rekordbox live untill we get 2000s....and im guessing that wont be in a hurry.

yeah, rekordbox linked to the cdj's search crashes the software sometimes so i have been staying away until another release which hopefully fixes it

fair enough, i have heard this and maybe il come across the issue in time. iv only been using it in my room and i really like it, simple. i.e. no wires to fuck about with & brilliant control and sound quality! iv not given up with serato atall, all i ask for is a date??? they seem to avoid this question in every tread iv seen. im bored of waiting :)

yeah, i hear ya

once again still no responce from the serato guys....

Hey Guys,

Any new update on the matter? (SL3 + CDJ900)

Fat chance, we just get ignored when we ask, its supposed to be out this month!!!!

Hey guys,

Apologies for the frustration, we have been working hard on this and development for native CDJ900 support is now almost complete. It should be coming very soon. Please keep an eye out for updates!

Cheers,

Sam.

Thankyou very much sam!!!! Iv been waiting soo long just for some feedback!!! Im hopfull its very soon :)

Will there be a beta too test? Im happy to help all i can if so.

CAN'T wait for the CDJ 2000 AND 900 hid native support.

your ganna have too!!! im getting soooooo impatient lol

Does anyone have a date yet? i've been here "soon" for 7+ months... there's no soon on my cal.

Serato promised this month!!!!

OK ITS THE 1ST.... WTF SERATO ?!??!?

:(

:( I thought it might be out today aswell

no you did'nt as serato told you (on the 29th june 2010) to watch out for a press release on the 900/2000 hid support in the next few days...

yes they did and i have been watching.....hense two days later i thought it might have been annonced, they said june!!!!! its now july!!!!! go post somewhere else if you have nothing interesting to say

what and your constant posts all over are interesting hmmmm.

maybe if you posted on here the info. you have got out of Rane/serato that would help everyone else out. insted of moaning. you have had some good replies share them with peeps. i'm not trying to get in an argument with you, just think you should share the positive replies you have had with others. and hold in there.

the info i have had changes as the days go by....because of this i am getting impateint, if your not interested in the release dates why bother posting? its clear there are alot of us waiting on this.
Its great that serato are taking the time to get it right and not just release anything. but when told june at the latest and then july comes people including me are going to keep posting!!!!

lets hope it turns up in the next couple of days, if it doesnt i will ask questions again!

i am intrested thats why im following the 900/2000 posts. it prob. wont come in the next few days as the next version of scratchlive is NOT ready for release in the next few days. i would expect like they said a press release on the matter. which will hopefully say what version it will be in. may well be 2.1.0 but will turn up in beta 3 + or they may just ask for beta testers to test out the 900/2000 to see how they work with 2.1.0.... but we will just have to sit back and wait. also what do serato class as a few days lol.

yes ask questions just share you answer's with us all to help everyone thats all i ment.

cheers...

Browny,
You know what the best thing to do when you're getting impatient with something? Do something else! :)

Seriously, it's going to come out when it comes out, and you're just driving yourself nuts over something that you have absolutely no control over. Relax, step away from your computer, go outside, and enjoy the beautiful outdoors. I'm sure there are plenty more things to do other than posting how much you want HID support - the Serato folks already know how badly you want it, and I'm pretty sure they're doing what they can to bring it to you as fast as possible.

Listen to some new music, hang out with friends, and do anything to get your mind off of Serato for a few minutes. Or, as today's quote in my Buddhist book says: "Want what you have and don't want what you don't have. Here you will find true fulfillment." :)

thats my annoyance, if a date was given and stuck to i would sit back and wait, now the dates come and gone its hard just to do nothing. a update or press release like you say would be great....il wait.....as pateint as possible lol

i really dont need to be told how to spend my time :) but while i am at work bored, i will spend time on this forum complaining :0 as for the weather its cloudy :)

don't you have any friends at work you can shoot the shit with? We have a gym at my work so that's where i relieve my stress and not think about 2.1 & the bridge...

then by all means, continue driving yourself nuts :)

clearly you have a nice boss, no gym for me! not driving myself nuts just dissapointed. anyway im out.......all these posts i feel bullied :)

ok browny, see you......soon!

we only do it because we care

announcement for HID support www.skratchworx.com

Good find mate

I sure hope that they allow the loop buttons on the 900 to be reassigned such that you can use them as cue buttons. I rarely use loops, but I always use cues. That would make the experience on the decks so much more pleasant than having to hit the numbers on the keyboard.

midi

as long as I can do that and have the HID platter control, I'm gold

HID

Does HID allow you to remap what certain buttons do?

No, at least none of the other native controllers allow this.

So we got a no, HID, and MIDI. what's the verdict? Will it be possible to map the loop buttons on the 900 to make them trigger cues in SSL?

well the 400 is HID and they allowed some buttons mappable by the user didn't they, i believe the efx buttons, So it is possible if Serato allows it

I think you're missing what Native support means, You do not need to map the loop buttons because they are natively mapped by Serato, you dont need to map them yourselves, the loop button on the 2000 will natively control the loop button in Serato, it's mapped for you

wait, my bad, i misread what you wrote, lemme try again



This will be up to serato, on the cdj400 they opened up the efx buttons I believe so you can manually map them to what you want, Not sure though if they will allow you to remap a native control though like a loop in, maybe one of them can answer that for us

Well, that's the problem - I never use the loops - but I always use cues. So it would be really, really, really cool if I could use the 1,2,4, and 8 buttons to jump to cues 1-4 (I never use 5 anyways). That would seriously be the shit. I doubt I'd ever have to touch the computer again as I'm guessing I'll be able to select all my tracks using the selector knob.

also, I wonder if Pioneer puts any limitations on what they're allowed to do. That would be interesting because they could conceivably bring slip mode to the 2000 if they wanted to. They could also bring the cues to the 900 like the 2000 has..

I agree with ya, on the 2000, they use the < and > buttons on the right side to jump through saved loops, I have none so I would love to assign those to cut 4 and 5

also, would be great if the reverse switch on the 2000 act like the censor button when released

Looks like it's just the 2000 that's coming within the next couple of weeks, guess the waiting goes on for the 900 owners. Be interested to see how you guys find it on the 2000, I'm thinking it's going to be impressive

Hey browny,

The firmware update announced by Pioneer is for both the CDJ2000 and CDJ900 which will allow them to be natively supported by Scratch Live 2.1. Pioneer has said the release date for this update is July 12th.

Interesting - the pioneer forum said that only the 2000s would be working (see the last post from Pulse):

forums.pioneerdj.com

Glad to hear it would be both.

That's what I read that only the 2000 will work. Pioneer got it wrong then? Glad it's both :)

Pulse has now said for the second time he doubts the 900 will work??

Yeah, it was a weird response. Oh well.. I guess we'll just have to wait 4 days and see how it goes..

Looks that way, weird that pulse seems to think it's 2000s only and serato say both...

maybe he doesn't have a 900 to play with..

I hope that's the case :)

Hi Guys,

The CDJ-900 certainly does work with Scratch Live 2.1.
Pioneer also confirm this - you can refer to the official press release here:

www.pioneerelectronics.com

Hope that clears things up :)

word!

basically, pulse doesn't know what's going on or thinks that he's in the loop but he really isn't

Good stuff!!!

I want to see native HID support for the new CDJ-850s!

+1

lol and the CDJ-350s! dont forget....

Just thought I'd letcha know that the 900 and 2000 firmwares have been kinda posted.

Hint, you have to change the download URL to get it. Just updated my deck to 3.1 and I'm gonna test out the new beta!

How do we do it?? I mean get the URL I know how to update

well, you know what the version number is supposed to be.. now look at the download link and see if you can figure it out ;)

btw, it's pretty bitchin' seeing the 900 control the laptop!

Let me know how you get on, are you using a mac? Shariah hub you using? Thanks

Bitchin? How you mean? Good bad?

it's kinda quirky, actually. I think it'll need a little tweaking still.. but it's still really cool

cat's out of the bag, go here:

forums.pioneerdj.com

Thanks, I wana leave work to test it now :)

update pioneer 3.1 firm link is here:

pioneer.jp

now only 2.1 serato missing. When will it be..??

Get 2.1.0 From here. it is in Public beta. So make sure you dont use it out LIVE or if you do, then use it at your own risk as you may get a crash or find a bug.

Click here -------> www.serato.com

P.S. BROWNY has got a hardon lmfao ;-)

Browny will have when he gets home, his stuck at work :)

My god i would have thourt you would have been sick with excitment, then they would send you home ill.... looks good from the pioneer video ---> www.djsounds.com

Yeah looks impressive... Il have too wait and see when I get home. Just need a few more clubs too get the new players to make the most of it, the place I play most has 4 cdj 1000 mk3s so I'm thinking il be stuck with them for a while as if even 2 of them brake down there will still be 2 left :( not that the 1000s arnt great players of course

I can not connect the cdj 2000 HID mode wiht beta3 and firm pioneer 3.1. you can put a quick guide to do so. Thanks

I'm sure the serato/rane peepz will eventually post some instructions, but in the mean time make sure that you have both of your decks in the advanced HID mode, quit SSL, load a CD onto both decks (seems to disconnect the decks from the computer), then run SSL, then click link and press the selector knob until it connects to the computer and then select which deck you want that deck to be. This is how it worked on my 900. Make sure you have the drivers loaded on your PC otherwise it won't work. If you have a mac, I don't know how to do it...

Quick help to use cdjs with serato 2.1 as hid controller



First install the new cdjs firmware which is 3.1 and the new ssl 2.1 beta 3 , then Connect ur cdj2000s via USB and power them on, in the menu of the cdj switch hid setting from standard to advanced. In ssl don,t use reel and abs mode. And make sure u press the link button in the cdjs and map each to the right deck of ur choice. ( 1 or 2 )

Everything should be fine.

major note to remeber, use INT mode in SSL when connecting HID controllers

And click midi on ssl

So, I was messing around and realized that I'm able to press the "1" loop button and make it trigger cue one - awesome! Now how do I stop it from creating a loop? Is it possible to un-map the loop functionality?

Iv found a few problems so far, altho im loving it... So well done serato :) first of the slipmode doesnt work, i dont know if that was to be expected? also if i hit the beat select button while looping my loop doubles in size? why? i push beat select to cut my loop!!! also its hard to get a cue point, it just returns to the wrong point somtimes. also my waveforms on my serato screen arnt coming up? there loading as i play each track for some reason? and one last problem sometimes if i grab the patter tio scratch it makes a random screech!!! horrible noise, no idea why??? anyone else had issues? thanks kris

random screech has been cut back a lot for me by lowering my usb buffer down to 2

ok kool, so you got this too? has it stopped completly? how does the buffer settings change the performance in hid mode?

Yes this is a bug in beta3 21048

Also Browny i think it may help if you and other post all your issues in the 2.1 beta area as its still in beta so this will help the serato dev team know about these problems and HOPFULLY you guys will get a fix before 2.1 goes final.

Browny how are they tho? alot better than timecode cds??? what the delay like comparred to using timecode cd???

i see i video on youtube and he was moaning about delays but it also looked like he had his sl-3 and x2 cdj2000s in a usb hub so that might of been his issue.

cheers

wheres the video?

some people are complaining about the delay but dont realize 2 things

1. You have to have the cdj HID set to ADVANCED
2. the usb buffer effects platter latency, so lower it all the way to the left for better platter control

you can find the video here... be warned you will go dizzy!!! lol ---> Watchwww.youtube.com

yeah see, he has it on STANDARD, instead of ADVANCED on the top of the screen, I guess he didnt read the directions, LOL

@LJ WOOLSEY I have found the delay fine, havent noticed a problem with delay yet? control seems good, love the fact you can scroll through crates etc! just a lot of bugs. i get random screechs if i scratch in vinyl mode, also there is a weird bug with setting cues, do you get that? and the beat loop button changes the loop and it shoudnt!!!! i hope these get sorted before 2.1 goes final as i dont think its really usable yet. im going to have a good go tommorrow and see what bugs i can find. Still very impressed with what serato have done so far. thanks kris

yes, had it too, it's a usb buffer, so any usb controlling serato will be affected by the buffer, give it a try you will see. Crank the buffer all the way to the right and hit apply, you will have a ton of screeches when you touch the platter and the scratching latency is bad, now move the slider to the left and hit apply and it's a whole new ball game, platter is tight and very few, if any screeches

ok il have a play thankyou, hopfully between us all we can get the bugs all reported and serato can work there magic!

one final little bug iv found, while playing a track if i turn my brake setting too about 5 o clock ( all the way) then hit pause ( too create a slowing down vinyl sound) the play/pause button has to be pressed twice? this may only be sometimes. thanks

yeah, I am sure they will be worked out if we all properly post bug reports, just adding to this thread won't help to much

thats why i have just created a bug report ;)

:)

i finally got home so im testing a lot too now

Let me know how you get on, id be interested to see what bugs you get ( same or different to me)

sounds good, I will

any ideas?

you should post in the public beta area as a new thread, the moderators may not be looking in this thread for bug reports

@msoultan, you using 2000s or 900s? im having starnge things happen with my loops on the 900s

900

thought so, when i create a loop (manualy) then hit the beat select button my loop changes without me getting a chance to push any of the auto loop buttons... dont know if this is what your getting? try it and let me know

browny, the bugs I see so far are,

1. screeching is definitely there with the buffer up high (fix for now is put the usb buffer all the way to the left)

2. pitch defaults to 16 even though serato says 10, I always have to change my 2000 to 10 on each power up

i will report these later

yes my pitch default was also 16 % and i wanted 10% im going to play around with my buffer settings tommorrow.

Hey guys,

If you could all post your bugs and issues with CDJ2000 and 900 support in the new beta area it would be appreciated :) The development team will be looking in here and is probably the best way for you to make these issues known. Hope you guys are enjoying it!

I'll close this thread now.

Sam.