Basic juggling (only backspins), and very simple scratches....

Sounded not bad, but really not sick.... more boring.

THAT is sick... Watchwww.youtube.com

Netik does more fader-clicks in 5 seconds than that dude in your video trough 5 minutes ;)

that (solomon) wasn't very impressive to be honest

now Netik IS sick

Ok Netik can scratch, but you cant dance to that shit. Seems on this forum unless your the sickest scratcher your nothing.

As for the video.... Net's video fuckin sucks in production compared to the one I found. Hands down!

You all know that Solomon is here on the board, right?

Production? Dude, he makes that stuff live.... Not partially premixed... Plus this wasn't meant to be produced - just Netik showing off his SICK skills in a small shop, filmed by a bystander.

As i mentioned. Your video sounds nice, but technically it was weak. Even if this video was shot by Steven Spielberg in 1920x1080 HD with 5.1 Dolby.... in MY opinion NOT sick...

I admit this could be because I'm a scratch-nerd. My girlfriend for example, who is not cutting for years, more like 3 months, said, that Netiks moves looked way more complicated, but didn't sound as great as Solomons performance....

by the way: I can dance to that stuff :P

What impresses me about Netik is the lack of headphones to cue with AT ALL....

Both aren't bad... one is showing off (Netik) and one is a public performance geared to appeal to the entire crowd (solomon)....

Different crowds, different levels of skill used... (Different tools)... I seem to remember someone saying something about using the appropriate skills for the crowd.....


Oh, WAIT! THAT WAS ME!!!!! ;-)

He just uses a battletool-vinyl with nice samples one after another. Not that hard to find the beginning of a sample....

What impresses me is his high-precision coordination and movement of his fingers & hands.

Once again I have to say, I respect Solomons performance but i just want to point out, that Netik can do the same, even fully intoxicated and blindfolded at the same time. They are simply at completely different technical levels.

I think both are cool as hell... I'd sure like to know what is sooo damn tasty on his fingers though ... wow must be sumtin good can't get enough, oh wait he wipes it on his shirt, doudle lick to the shirt again... ... oh whatever mad props....

And yes 2 different genres as far I'm concerned there.

Yeah... Solomon needs to watch Q-Bert's video...

If you've seen the Q-Bert's vid you'll know that Q-Bert would NEVER shake hands with Solomon... ;-)


and why....

and this is the dude on FS2 Demo Video....
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Too hard to say who's better when comparing these clips. But I must say Netic's clip was way more impressive.

If they both knew each other, Q would buy him "Sparco Fingertip Moistener" as a christmas-gift :D

*shrugs*

it's not a diss at him, guys obviously good, but if you're gonna post a video of a guy showing his skills and scratching and backspinning with "SICK" all over it people are gonna analize it.

I'm sorry but the dance to argument is bullshit as well because you can't dance to either of them...If i was in a club and some guy was back spinning and cutting like that i'd be like "why god? whhhhyyyyyyyyyyyy?!?!?! Just make it stop!!!" to my friends, because to me it just breaks up the music, it'd stop em and my lady dancing and i'd just f*ck off to the bar and get leathered...

well ones aprofessional Television insert, the other is a handycam held by some guy at a public apperance... don't get it twisted.

will say one thing he's equal on both hands....

Well, to be honest, I thought Solomon's video was a lot more "entertaining" than Netik's video. I was bored with Neitk's video after about a minute and a half. No diss to him, Netik's got mad skills and I wish I could scratch that well, but it seemed he just repeated the same scratch pattern over and over. I know he can tear it up harder as I've seen other video's of Netik, but if comparing these two video's alone, I like Solomon's better.

*videos not video's

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this guy shits all over both of them..
rucker 4 pres

rucker is nasty as hell. I remember that cat on asisphonics when he had the alter ego, aliosity; the cat can scratch to stuff that's 320 bpm - crazy skills

Dstyles is the king of hand control, look at the stuff he does at 3:42 sec:
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You cant compare soloman to netik,ruker or d styles

I like paul oakenfolds mix video where he scratches on the Pioneer dvj, but dosn't use any sounds...






















































... I also like toast.

yo thought Solomon was tight...video editing was WACK!!!

like'm both, but this one was dope too Watchwww.youtube.com

♥ ♥ ♥

^^^ what are those - and why are they here?

according to my dictionary it's called "heart". Q and D deserve at least 3 of them ^^

tadaaa ☺ ☻ ☼ ♀ ♂ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ ♪ ♫ ۞ ۝ ۩

HUH?

Because Q "twits on" Djs who lick their fingers and he advises to use Fingertip Moistener by Sparco....

Dude, i hope you are joking... just because he licks his fingers while scratching, i hope people dont think he sorry for that. Solomon is cool. You gotta be good to be a resident dj for the Golden State Warriors, Clubs with Dj AM, and writer/editor for magazines. Respect.

hes good but he shouldnt be cuttn!

I think he did everything right. He was there to entertain the crowd and he did that pretty good. Even though his scratching is not at a very high technical level, it sounded nice. And the audience liked it.

Whether he was doing the "lick-thing" because of "looking cool" or because he has really dry hands and needs that for vinyl-control - like Q i would not shake hands with him after performing ;)

personally, i did not enjoy that

youtube (breakin baby) Watchwww.youtube.com

Dangerously cool ... hard to watch when the kid bends his neck ...
Now what is the number to DFACS ........

2 years and change and movin like that.... wow!!

That might one of the cleanest chirp combo's I've ever seen (Netik). Does anyone know what the scratch he's doing at :15 - :20?? I've never seen/heard it before.

I guess those are 2-clicks with just fast and precise vinyl movement... When i do 2-click-orbits and move the vinyl 2-3 farther than normal, it sounds like that.

You sure it was only two clicks Phil? It sounds like more than that.

limelight: after trying a bit i think those are One-Clicks. I can't move my fingers that fast to make 2-clicks with that speed. Maybe Netik does it because he has godlike skills. ^^

But my One-Clicks sound "nearly" the same.... so i guess they are fast 1-clicks.

made a video: Watchwww.youtube.com

Word! I think you're right. It's one but it's so fast it sounds like way more. Ridiculous.

do any you guys do 2 click chirp clover tear flares?

What exactly do you mean? A 2click Clover Tear - Chirp combo?

Because you can't do a Chirp and a Flare at the same time...

yea i mean a 2 click chirp flare but doin the clover tear for the chirps...if that makes any sence im working on it at the mo!!

sorry i mean doin the clover tear for the flares...
(i think there easier to do than to Write)lol

You confuse me ^^


A 2click clover tear (flare). This scratch does exist.


That doesn't make sense... That would be a 2Click (Flare) Chirp Clover Tear. Thats not possible because a Chirp defines how to move the fader, and a Flare does it too. You can't do 2 different scratches at the same time. Besides that, a 2Click is a Flare. You only can do a "2Click (Flare) Clover Tear / Chirp"-combo, but you can't do Chirps and 2CLicks at the same time.

Or do you mean a Clover Tear Chirp? Then you would cut out a part of the sound that characterizes the Clover Tear. So i guess, that doesn't make sense either.

still confused. lol

I thought they were two's, with a fast record movement... just makes it sound higher pitched not faster - but maybe we are looking at different places.

what is this? youtube search showdown haha

check me out (on the right side w/ the ttx) scratching while you're at it, Watchwww.youtube.com not much compared to dstyles or riccirucker but i'm only 15 and been at it for almost 2 years.

not sick but very nice :)
especially for only 2 years of practice ! Keep it up!

all I can say is………



WOOOOOOW!

you guys have a lot of time on your hands and I am veeeery flattered you are even talking about me so much.
I’m actually not that much of a technical turntablist and wouldn’t ever claim that i'm a better scratch dj or turntablist than the next guy. I just have fun with what im doing and try to create the best performance I can.
Please allow me explain the context of that video. I've been djing for the Golden State Warriors for 7 seasons now, and what my job has evolved into is basically putting on turntable performances that provide a visual entertainment for the audience in the arena during our pregame in house TV show GTOE TV (Great Time Out Entertainment). My performances are mostly geared to the general public, ie people who have no clue what flares, chirps or crabs even are, so I focus more on musical content, visual appeal and generally keeping it fun and exciting on camera! Im also doing this all on Serato which as you know if technically a little more challenging to do some of the juggling we were all so accustomed to on straight records.
There are actually a few more clips on YouTube you can check out, they are similar routines from different games but all sort of have the same gist!
Like I said before, I would never claim to be some amazing scratch artist, in fact I often watch bedroom djs who've only been djing for like 2 years that humble the shit out of me. They either make me wanna quit or go to a scratch monastery and practice my chirps and flares for like 6 months straight!
This isn’t really my main gig either, I am way more of a nightclub dj, I incorporate scratches, juggles etc into my mix routine but in a creative performance manner that make the dance club dj experience a bit more of a musical performance. More in the dj am, dj vice, stonerokk sort of way. I like to call it pop turntablism.

In any case im flattered that you guys even talked about me for so long, I guess I should finish up this post so I can get back to practicing my scratches!

: )

why are you even defending yourself dude?






















joke :)

yep thats the one im workin on,was confused for a while there!!!
do you guys do that combo??

First i have to perfect the Clover Tear. I can do Chirps and Flares pretty good, but right now i won't stop training fast 2-Click-Orbits until i can do "machinegun-2clicks" for more than 30 second without doing a single error.

Finger lickin ...Watchwww.youtube.com

I thought Solomon's music itself was WAY more pleasing than Netik regardless of anyone's subjective grading of their skills. Netik was showing off, Solomon was making music. Solomon, your summary was dead on.

in working on my clovers at the moment just tryin to come up with some combo's like the one mentioned above,
im right handed scratching with my left but i cant get nearly the speed clovers Q Bert and them pulls off,i think those dude's are right handed with the right hand on the record so the get the mad precision(plus there not mere mortals)
i got some rapid-fire 2clicks but, good old twiddle technique

yeah Q is writing hand on the record. so stongest hand for record control.

It's all about practice. And "our"/my heros did that a lot. But you're right a guy who is right handed with the right hand on the record is able to learn those kind of scratches faster/easier.

Btw: Can you make a video of your "2Click Clover Tear/Chirp"-combo? It would be interesting how it sounds.

Though skills doesn't mean "sounding nice", but in my, i guess "scratch-crackbrained" ,brain Netiks "performance" sounded WAY more like "Oh YEAH, I'm feeling it *nods head*".

I guess the reason is that i listen to Scratch-music or Turntablism 90% of my time.

Tested it, and showed both videos to about 10 non-scratch Dj's, and frightening EVERYONE said Solomons Video sounded nice, Netiks video bad.

Seems that the majority has bad music-taste ;)

i like 4 click tearflare clover flare tears mctwist

:D ♫

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TI can bite this ...

that is doope!

I always wondered why there was a slight offness in the song, now i see that you have to move your hands a long way down the keyboard.. I feel whole now knowing this. thanks i not knew.

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Steve D !!! DMC 1991

Classic. Amazing his skills back in 1991

Watchwww.youtube.com ...tight set!

DJ Izoh Watchwww.youtube.com Another tight set !

COMPLETLEY unrelated but so damn funny beatbox... www.clipaday.com

this set classifies as sick Watchyoutube.com (literally)

this guys is not a dj he is an actor and i think he really acts like an electronic dj well
hahahahahahhaah
i watched this dude maybe 50 times cant get over it

loooooooooooooooooooooooollll

Watchwww.youtube.com ... J-Rocc doing his thing ...

pretty sick (as in interesting) Watchwww.youtube.com on different media

LOL!!! Reel-to-reel! The only ones I know in existance anymore are the 2 Akais on display at my old man's house in his museum of ancient artifacts. That was pretty sick though! Each of those reels holds about 3 hours of music and my old man has tons of them.

www.wittyvideos.com 720!

www.wittyvideos.com

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY shit

damn that 720 was indeed sick

Great set, thanks

720 omg got me dizzy

OMG!!!!!

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Scratch Bastard ... :) Nice

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Dj kast is off the hizzzle fo shizzzzle

off tha hook yo! definately dope too

I've seen a bunch of video's. I have to say he is the best example of how to use Serato with efx's and everything. He was getting busy.

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Ladies and gents:

Roman Zerano V1.5

awesome :D

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nice find phil.....

I guess I DO know what "....." means :P

but it was reaaaaly hard to find ;)

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And What!?

Look past the wannabe crook'd Hip Hop hat...

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that is just the sickest innit?

more Troubl, on MVibes:

both the same routines but form different places:
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Freestyle Scratching:
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Allies beatdown:
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Dj Kodh's mixvibes Advert:
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Love this! But LOL @ 1:49 :)

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thats some tight shizzz but tell me what you think about me. i just got back into the dj game after a 1yr. here is my home made vid of me im alittle rusty! let me know..

vids.myspace.com

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lost for words

yeah thats Lamont, good friend of mine... he's sick as f*ck

sup Monk. Long time man. I'm trying to learn ableton now for mashes and remixes. been working ABM. I'm still Iraq doing big things for the troops. what's good? I'm still jammin that one mix you posted on here way back

Not true.. I know Q personally he I think he would dig Solomons style.

I really liked the video. Very clean transitions he pulled off.

Got a better one!!! I love drum-n-bass, but go do a search for a Kevin Sawka or Sawa I think, dude does LIVE drum-n-bass on the drums.....absolutely gifted and talented

I posted links to sawka's stuff longtime ago, doa search for live drum and bass on here.

This thread is hilarious. You guys are comparing some crazy Scratch routine to DJ performance at a professional basketball game. There is a difference between scratchin and DJ'n. Scratchin is one of the elements. DJ Solomon was DJ'n!!!

Im MORE impressed that they got a real DJ rockin a crowd at a game like that. Im more impressed by Solomon. Dude got a gig Dj'n at pro basketball game and hes doublin up, cuttin and scratchin. If I were in his shoes I would be rockin it the same way. Who wants to HEAR a 30 minute scratch routine during a game? That shit would be so inappropriate. That shit is cool for battles or showcases, but not for a gig like Solomons. I cant believe people would even have the nerve to compare the two.

Also before you say anything else, Ive seen the best turntablists first hand from qbert, atrak, xecutioners, etc. My foundation as a DJ is based from that. Ive also seen the Doo Wops, S&S's, Clark Kents, etc. Its a totally different ballgame to be able to ROCK for 4-6 hours than doing a crazy scratch routine.

You guys are comparing apples to oranges.

Props to DJ Solomon for being able to double like that at a pro basketball game. They'd probably be playing the Macarena if you werent there.

PEACE.

HA HA HA HA WOOOORD, thanks for the kind words....