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DDJ-XP1

DJ Matty Stiles 12:31 PM - 13 September, 2017
I was hoping for an SP1 mk2 (SP2?) as an upgrade for the SP1. I was hoping it would be lighter with color pads.

It looks like that dream may never come to fruition. It also very much looks like pioneer totally overlooked serato and just concentrated on Rekordbox DVS:

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Personally I can't see myself getting this. It kind of looks like a glorified launchpad. I can't see myself using Rekordbox and I wouldnt even midi map it with serato. I'll be sticking with my SP1.
WarpNote 2:11 PM - 13 September, 2017
Locally, the XP1 seems to be cheaper than the SP1 ...interessting move....
GusGomez 2:41 PM - 13 September, 2017
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Locally, the XP1 seems to be cheaper than the SP1 ...interessting move....

very interesting, I wish I could get my hands on some Rekordbox Vinyl so I can give it a shot I see on their website they have some nice white ones but I have no idea where to get em.
Gio Alex 3:11 PM - 13 September, 2017
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Locally, the XP1 seems to be cheaper than the SP1 ...interessting move....


Strategic move. Or does it just expose the serato tax lol
GusGomez 3:19 PM - 13 September, 2017
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Locally, the XP1 seems to be cheaper than the SP1 ...interessting move....


Strategic move. Or does it just expose the serato tax lol

wow good point I think its the latter
Despo 3:34 PM - 13 September, 2017
best thing is you could simply map it to serato
WarpNote 4:52 PM - 13 September, 2017
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best thing is you could simply map it to serato

Unless you are especially savvy in midi mapping, my guess is the experience would be less than the current SP1 with SDJ....
DJ BroMoney 4:56 PM - 13 September, 2017
Buying this also unlocks the Rekordbox Performance software + DVS expansion
Gio Alex 5:02 PM - 13 September, 2017
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best thing is you could simply map it to serato

Unless you are especially savvy in midi mapping, my guess is the experience would be less than the current SP1 with SDJ....


I was just thinking the same. Make it sound like it's clicking on a button then pad, and bam!
Gio Alex 5:08 PM - 13 September, 2017
I find it odd that it's geared towards RKB, but it's showcased with the S9 mixer. Things are getting more and more confusing. I know the S9 can be used for rekordbox, but I'm sure no one bought the S9 (Serato Mixer) thinking, "man this will be a great Rekordbox mixer!"
the SOUNDINSURGENT 5:41 PM - 13 September, 2017
Of course not, at the time of the release it wasn't mapped for Rekordbox but now it is.
the SOUNDINSURGENT 5:44 PM - 13 September, 2017
I think it'll be solid if mapped to SDJ.

I mean you could have all 8 hot cues, 4 saved loops and 4 flip edits on just 1 of the pages. No more of this switch around and holding shift like with the SP1 now....

It has potential but Seratos way of midi mapping sucks so yes it won't be easy but possibly worth it in the end.
MPC O.G. 5:59 PM - 13 September, 2017
A few days after it's available somebody will have a useable mapping up. The guys at DJTT will be all over it.
Mr. Goodkat 7:00 PM - 13 September, 2017
my question is since you have sync, why cant someone just put a play button and a knob for pitch and a nudge+- on a controller that fully featured.

i'd love to see that so you could dj with a serato/rkb mixer for soundcard and then use the XP1 by itself with no tts or cdjs.

i guess it should be able to be midi mapped but i guess its a money thing to not have basic transport buttons on these mixers. Otherwise ppl wouldnt need TTS, CDJS, XDJs or full midi controllers.
Gio Alex 7:38 PM - 13 September, 2017
I think they still keep the jogs on there because someone will complain. LOL

Novation Twitch was the only one that I can recall for serato that ditched the wheels and they did it along time ago too. They have a play button.
Mr. Goodkat 11:09 PM - 13 September, 2017
it would be cool if the control strips could be used to control pitch although you still need a nudge +- since it would be hard to get it spot on but really w sync, you could get close and sync.

too bad it doesnt have more than 1 knob, i drink too much for touch strips not to get wet sooner or later
DJ Matty Stiles 4:40 AM - 14 September, 2017
Does anyone know if you can get the colors to match the cue points in serato? Then it might be worth consideration
GusGomez 1:05 PM - 14 September, 2017
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Does anyone know if you can get the colors to match the cue points in serato? Then it might be worth consideration

doupt it since its a Rekordbox add on not a Serato accessory
Despo 2:13 PM - 14 September, 2017
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Does anyone know if you can get the colors to match the cue points in serato? Then it might be worth consideration

doupt it since its a Rekordbox add on not a Serato accessory


you can, you just need to figure out the midi values to send to the controller
Gio Alex 3:52 PM - 14 September, 2017
This is basically like a Push for Rekordbox.
dj_soo 5:41 AM - 15 September, 2017
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best thing is you could simply map it to serato


Serato's mapping is pretty poor and doesn't allow you to work out control pages without hacking into the xml file.

Personally, I think this thing is both way too big and pretty excessive.

If you're using it with the S9, do you really need 48 pads when you DJ?
Gio Alex 3:05 PM - 15 September, 2017
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If you're using it with the S9, do you really need 48 pads when you DJ?


Exactly lol...
which is why I made the Push reference. This is on some live production performance kinda thing.
DJ Matty Stiles 10:00 PM - 15 September, 2017
^ Yeah for me, my bread and butter are cue points and echo out. Maybe some loops / rolls

I'm not looking to do some fancy tone play shit. Same goes for most working DJs
raedonquan 7:50 PM - 8 October, 2017
ok folks received the xp1 and i started mapping..... i had to find what midi code value to change the leds.... its been 4hrs since i started....

one the hot cue page
i have the cue pads the same color as it is on the screen on the first 8 pads....

the 3rd row i have background color lt green and when i hit the sampler the pad turns white

the 4th row i have transport controls cueplay and play

i have the touch sliders as my pitch.

i do need help on mapping a SHIFT button can anyone shed some light?

flic.kr
dj_soo 9:25 PM - 8 October, 2017
this was just spotted in the wild: i.redd.it
Despo 3:08 PM - 9 October, 2017
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this was just spotted in the wild: i.redd.it


looks a bit.. fake?

If that's real, that deck looks like nonsense. I'd never buy a 2000$ drumpad only player
DJ Unique 5:40 PM - 9 October, 2017
Tracking....
DJ Yaitanis 3:31 PM - 22 October, 2017
Has anyone mapped this to Serato? I can't seem to get the library browse button to work properly
raedonquan 3:32 PM - 22 October, 2017
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Has anyone mapped this to Serato? I can't seem to get the library browse button to work properly


iwhat is the problem it wont map ?
DJ Yaitanis 4:47 PM - 22 October, 2017
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Has anyone mapped this to Serato? I can't seem to get the library browse button to work properly


iwhat is the problem it wont map ?


The DDJ XP1? Is a rekordbox Controller it does not have Native mapping to Serato DJ
DJ Marv the Maverick 10:08 PM - 23 October, 2017
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this was just spotted in the wild: i.redd.it


looks a bit.. fake?

If that's real, that deck looks like nonsense. I'd never buy a 2000$ drumpad only player


www.pioneerdj.com

Its real
Despo 12:42 AM - 24 October, 2017
lmao denon does the sc5000 and pioneer comes back with this shit?
dj_soo 5:48 AM - 24 October, 2017
Pioneer knows that they could slap their name on a literal piece of shit and people would not only buy it, but pay a premium for it.
ERuE 3:05 PM - 1 January, 2018
Anyone map the xp1 yet?
raedonquan 1:19 PM - 2 January, 2018
mapped to my liking but not finished
ERuE 4:38 PM - 2 January, 2018
Anyway you can send me the midi Mapping? I have it boxed up and ready to return it lol
Jt7363 10:00 AM - 26 January, 2018
yes can someone please explain how to change the mapping on xp1. I was going to buy the SP1 but heard you have to use the shift key for autoloop feature.
Mr. Goodkat 9:07 PM - 26 January, 2018
DJ Marv the Maverick 12:24 AM - 27 January, 2018


Tip you don't need to switch it to generic midi mode to map to Serato.
DJ Marv the Maverick 12:26 AM - 27 January, 2018
I have and use it mainly for Mixemergency but I mapped the sampler to Serato DJ so I can fire my air horns and laser sound without toggling to sampler page on my main controller
lindsaymar 11:31 PM - 14 March, 2018
all I really want is an sp1 with coloured pads.
Hell, I’d be happy with Dicers with colored pads.
DJ Matty Stiles 5:12 PM - 15 March, 2018
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all I really want is an sp1 with coloured pads.
Hell, I’d be happy with Dicers with colored pads.

100%. Unfortunately no sign of pioneer doing that
Gilbert Elliott 8:12 PM - 6 May, 2018
Hey... Anyone got this mapped yet?
raedonquan 1:47 AM - 8 May, 2018
mapped yes close but there are some new things going on with sdj pro.. midi

when you hit a cue point the pad color gets brighter as in feedback when you hit the pad and when the cue is occupied the pad color is dim.

i cant get the color of pad to follow the color when you delete a cue...

there is no instant double when you hit load 2 times.

i havent mapped tone play....

dont have time to play with it at the moment....dj wedding season
djdomm971 12:15 PM - 27 May, 2018
HELLO

did you succeed for the shift button?
raedonquan 2:40 AM - 1 June, 2018
on other midi controllers yes but not on the xp1
DJ SYZER 2:53 AM - 22 July, 2018
I'm trying to map the touch strip to be the efx parameters have anyone tried this?
dj_soo 7:20 AM - 22 July, 2018
I used to do this with my vci 380
DJ SYZER 7:22 PM - 22 July, 2018
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I used to do this with my vci 380

Any tips to make it work or do you kind sharing your xml file.
dj_soo 4:10 AM - 23 July, 2018
on the 380, I just click on the midi button, click on the depth knob in the effects section, and swipe the strip.
DJ SYZER 4:13 AM - 23 July, 2018
I can do it for one efx but I want to use the same light strip for all the efx parameters
dj_soo 4:25 AM - 23 July, 2018
ah, you'd need to go into the xml then - I have no idea how to do that...
DJ SYZER 4:45 AM - 23 July, 2018
Thanks DJ_Soo I appreciate your help wish serato would be open about this I understand many people would probably fuck up there controllers and then would want serato to help em out that probably why they don't give us that info but it would put Serato above all its competitors.
dj_soo 7:28 AM - 23 July, 2018
Well, they'd have to find the file and know how to open or edit it, and Serato has an easy feature to reset to defaults.

A lot of people gravitate towards Serato because it's relatively straightforward and not everyone wants the complex remapping features that something like Traktor has.

I've always likened Serato to iOS and Traktor to Android.

iOS is much more intuitive and snappy but that's partially because it limits the user into utilizing the software the way the designers want it to be used. Because of that, it's a little more elegant and user friendly but a little more limited. Additionally, the hardware is designed to work specifically with the software allowing for greater ease of use.

Android allows for a great deal more freedom and customization, but at the cost of a much greater chance of user error. Likewise, the sheer amount of choice and customization can often be overwhelming to the average user leading to a less stream-lined and tight experience.

Reokrdbox is kind on the in between of the two, but it really lacks in usability.

That said, I do wish Serato would give us more poweful mapping allowing for things like pages, shift functions, and being able to map controls to multiple functions or multiple controls to the same function (I believe there are a few controls that it can be done with, but there aren't many).
DJ SYZER 7:36 AM - 23 July, 2018
You nailed it on the ios vs android comparison you also bring up a lot good points if I would be able to see my default s9 midi xml I sure I can crack some for codes out of there but for know I'll just trial and error.I don't want to try rekord box I want to stay a loyal customer to serato but hopefully rekordbox does not take serato out the game.