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Rane 72 and pioneer s9

playerz 11:26 PM - 9 August, 2017
What are we supposed to call these mixers are they controllers?
DaltonSR20 1:30 AM - 10 August, 2017
uhhhhhhh.....................................
dj vernon nyc 2:10 AM - 10 August, 2017
The million dollar question is does this new mixer use both SL and SDJ just like the 62?
AddamXavier 2:11 AM - 10 August, 2017
They are MIDI enabled mixers. They wouldn't be considered controllers because they don't have a dedicated section for transport controls.
DJ Tecniq 2:55 AM - 10 August, 2017
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The million dollar question is does this new mixer use both SL and SDJ just like the 62?
No they confirmed it will only be compatible w/SDJ. SSL is long discontinued.
DJ Tecniq 2:56 AM - 10 August, 2017
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What are we supposed to call these mixers are they controllers?
Bruh it's really no different than a Rane 62 or 57mkII or even the old ttm57. They all do the same thing and have software built in.
Dave. 2:59 AM - 10 August, 2017
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The million dollar question is does this new mixer use both SL and SDJ just like the 62?

SSL is discontinued software - we no longer develop this software so no new hardware will work with it :)

SDJ support coming in the future!
Detroitbootybass 4:57 PM - 10 August, 2017
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SSL is discontinued software - we no longer develop this software so no new hardware will work with it :)



Dave W - Does this mean the rumored re-release of the Rane SL4 will only have SDJ compatibility?
Dj Ricky Redz 5:46 PM - 10 August, 2017
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SSL is discontinued software - we no longer develop this software so no new hardware will work with it :)



Dave W - Does this mean the rumored re-release of the Rane SL4 will only have SDJ compatibility?

Obviously!
Mr. Goodkat 7:32 PM - 10 August, 2017
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have software built in.


they have a soundcard built in
DJ Tecniq 8:15 PM - 10 August, 2017
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have software built in.


they have a soundcard built in
Serato software/soundcard same thing right.
Rebelguy 9:02 PM - 10 August, 2017
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SDJ support coming in the future!


Wait so it's being released without SDJ support?

Regarding the MP2015 LE, is this a non-USA manufactured product now?
DJ Tecniq 9:56 PM - 10 August, 2017
Was wondering that myself but I thought it was a typo🤔 ^
Michael R 10:20 PM - 10 August, 2017
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Dave W - Does this mean the rumored re-release of the Rane SL4 will only have SDJ compatibility?

The SL4 will work with Scratch Live, as the new ones are being built to the old spec :)
Michael R 10:21 PM - 10 August, 2017
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Wait so it's being released without SDJ support?

He means as the mixer is coming in the future, so is Serato DJ support :) The Seventy-Two will be supported by Serato DJ on launch.
Dave. 11:29 PM - 10 August, 2017
Sorry, I left too much room for assumption there guys.

As Michael said - new SL4 will work with SSL as technically not new hardware, just a re-release ;)

I'm sure you guys are aware the 72 isn't available for purchase yet. Once it is available in the future, it will be supported by SDJ.
djcrap 11:58 PM - 10 August, 2017
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Sorry, I left too much room for assumption there guys.

As Michael said - new SL4 will work with SSL as technically not new hardware, just a re-release ;)

I'm sure you guys are aware the 72 isn't available for purchase yet. Once it is available in the future, it will be supported by SDJ.

Since the new sl 4 is being released to old spec why not just throw us a born with a minor update for ssl compatibility ..say like windows 10 and the latest last release of mac os
djcrap 12:00 AM - 11 August, 2017
Born = bone

Lol

You what just for get that give me a post edit button!

I will be happy
SirForce 12:36 AM - 11 August, 2017
Will the original SL4's be worth more? Made in the U.S.of A.?
DJ Tecniq 1:24 AM - 11 August, 2017
I'm curious of this too. Will the SL4 be cheaper this time? A re-release for what exactly? So it will offer nothing new? I didn't think the SL4 was so high in demand and could still be bought today?
Mr. Goodkat 1:47 AM - 11 August, 2017
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I'm curious of this too. Will the SL4 be cheaper this time? A re-release for what exactly? So it will offer nothing new? I didn't think the SL4 was so high in demand and could still be bought today?


prob makes the most sense since everyone is going to two soundcard setups plus its the most exp and prob has the highest profit margin
DJ Tecniq 2:24 AM - 11 August, 2017
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I'm curious of this too. Will the SL4 be cheaper this time? A re-release for what exactly? So it will offer nothing new? I didn't think the SL4 was so high in demand and could still be bought today?


prob makes the most sense since everyone is going to two soundcard setups plus its the most exp and prob has the highest profit margin
Right i just don't understand though can't the SL4 still be bought today or was it discontinued or something? Lol oh duh Rane got bought out. So they are pretty much just rebranding it I guess.
Michael R 2:27 AM - 11 August, 2017
When InMusic purchased Rane they continued to sell the SL4 until they ran out of stock. This is new stock. No re-branding, just manufactured in a different place :)
DJ Tecniq 2:51 AM - 11 August, 2017
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When InMusic purchased Rane they continued to sell the SL4 until they ran out of stock. This is new stock. No re-branding, just manufactured in a different place :)
Gotcha so in a nutshell it will be the same price for something as old as what 5-6 yrs ago? Correct
Michael R 2:53 AM - 11 August, 2017
No idea about the price sorry, that's a question for Rane.
DJ Tecniq 3:22 AM - 11 August, 2017
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No idea about the price sorry, that's a question for Rane.
Hopefully it will be a bit cheaper for a product that came out in 2011. Let's hope it won't have as much connection issues as the other Rane products.
Rebelguy 4:15 AM - 11 August, 2017
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When InMusic purchased Rane they continued to sell the SL4 until they ran out of stock. This is new stock. No re-branding, just manufactured in a different place :)


Is that the same for the MP2015 LE?
Michael R 4:21 AM - 11 August, 2017
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Let's hope it won't have as much connection issues as the other Rane products.

It's the same spec, so if there were problems then they would still exist. What connection problems are you talking about?
Michael R 4:24 AM - 11 August, 2017
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When InMusic purchased Rane they continued to sell the SL4 until they ran out of stock. This is new stock. No re-branding, just manufactured in a different place :)


Is that the same for the MP2015 LE?

Not sure about the MP2015 sorry, but I imagine it's the same :)
DJ Tecniq 4:42 AM - 11 August, 2017
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What connection problems are you talking about?
I don't have any issues I use a Pioneer mixer but weekly I read topics on the forum "all the time" of connection issues with Rane products and usually the users have all drivers and firmware and "still" can't get them to connect and have to go through support every time. May want to tweak that as I have read tons.
Michael R 4:53 AM - 11 August, 2017
Hmm that could be a lot of things, not just one cause. We can resolve most connection issues if people reach out to us, as it can be a combination of things that can cause this (corrupt driver, conflicting devices etc.). As far as I'm aware there isn't a particular connection bug in Serato DJ causing any issues.
DJ Tecniq 8:53 AM - 11 August, 2017
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Hmm that could be a lot of things, not just one cause. We can resolve most connection issues if people reach out to us, as it can be a combination of things that can cause this (corrupt driver, conflicting devices etc.). As far as I'm aware there isn't a particular connection bug in Serato DJ causing any issues.
Really I see "failed to connect" like everyday on the forum lol.
Michael R 10:26 PM - 13 August, 2017
You may well, but you haven't read what I've said. What I said was as far as I'm aware there isn't a bug in SDJ that causes this. This issue can be caused by many, many different things so there's no fix that we can do. However if you get in touch with our Support Team we can resolve most connection issues :)
Ollie 12:45 AM - 30 September, 2017
Just heard the release date for the 72 got pushed back to Q1 2018. I wonder why and how this could affect any potential holiday sales they bring in. I was looking to get one before Thanksgiving and use it for my upcoming holiday events. 😕
Chino 2:10 AM - 30 September, 2017
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Just heard the release date for the 72 got pushed back to Q1 2018. I wonder why and how this could affect any potential holiday sales they bring in. I was looking to get one before Thanksgiving and use it for my upcoming holiday events. 😕


^^^ Is this news directly from inMusic Brand (RANE)? It would not surprise me if that is the case. Oh well, it gives inMusic Brand more time to make sure everything is working right & Ill have more $$$ to spend on Christmas gifts & other DJ/production 'toys'… I have my eye on the new Maschine MK3.
Dj Ricky Redz 3:05 AM - 30 September, 2017
For some strange reason I had a feeling that would happen... I went ahead and ordered a sz2 to use for this Christmas season!
Mr. Goodkat 6:39 PM - 30 September, 2017
i hate to say it, but i dont see inmusic rane ever getting anything close to Rane USA.

Theres so much going on with the 72, i just cant see inmusic getting it right
Aptidda 9:36 PM - 3 October, 2017
Interesting, my Pioneer DJM S9 has been so solid. The whole Rane driver issue is concerning, as I understand the DJM S9 is Natively supported in Mac OS? Is that the case?

I was going to get rid of the S9 for this, I figure I will wait it out to see if there are any issues at the first release. Once I hear it’s good, at that point I may go for it (could be well into 2018 eh guys?)
DJMIYAGI 9:53 PM - 3 October, 2017
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They wouldn't be considered controllers because they don't have a dedicated section for transport controls.

The 72 will have transport controls with the pads.
SirForce 2:44 PM - 5 October, 2017
I would hope the Rane 72, just like the Rane TTM57MKII and the newest Rane Rotary mixers use MacOS Core Audio and do not need specific audio drivers to function. As for transport controls, I look forward to what the Rane 72 might offer, for simple gigs it would be cool to use just the 72 to play music vs having another small controller.
Chino 5:16 PM - 5 October, 2017
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I look forward to what the Rane 72 might offer, for simple gigs it would be cool to use just the 72 to play music vs having another small controller.


I never even thought of using the RANE 72 like that. Good idea!
938MyDJ 10:45 PM - 5 October, 2017
You'll be better off using DJ2GO2 with those kind of gigs, LOL!
NUdisc0 1:20 AM - 6 October, 2017
Is future Rane gear going to be made in the USA? I can tell you that I will never buy Rane gear made overseas.
roy rohypnol 4:33 AM - 6 October, 2017
Overseas unfortunately.
playerz 11:02 AM - 6 October, 2017
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I would hope the Rane 72, just like the Rane TTM57MKII and the newest Rane Rotary mixers use MacOS Core Audio and do not need specific audio drivers to function. As for transport controls, I look forward to what the Rane 72 might offer, for simple gigs it would be cool to use just the 72 to play music vs having another small controller.

Read from the top of the post lol
Rebelguy 3:27 PM - 6 October, 2017
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Is future Rane gear going to be made in the USA? I can tell you that I will never buy Rane gear made overseas.


You must not buy any gear then because all of it is made overseas.
AKIEM 6:40 PM - 6 October, 2017
I wonder if Chinese hate buying shit overland.
NUdisc0 11:04 PM - 6 October, 2017
I expect Rane to be made in the USA; otherwise, it is not a Rane, but some Numark BS.
Aptidda 11:07 PM - 6 October, 2017
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I expect Rane to be made in the USA; otherwise, it is not a Rane, but some Numark BS.


Rane is "InMusic" Is Akai, is Numark, is Denon, is etc etc etc
NUdisc0 12:04 AM - 7 October, 2017
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I expect Rane to be made in the USA; otherwise, it is not a Rane, but some Numark BS.


Rane is "InMusic" Is Akai, is Numark, is Denon, is etc etc etc


Yeah, exactly. That's the problem.
dj_soo 2:09 AM - 9 October, 2017
So what are you going to get?

No pro DJ gear is made in the US anymore. Pioneer is made in Malaysia which is even cheaper than China/Taiwan.
NUdisc0 2:12 AM - 9 October, 2017
Duh
dj_soo 4:26 AM - 9 October, 2017
China manufacturing has gotten to the point where they can produce quality - Apple, IBM, Lenovo, any of the high end computers out there are chinese made.

There are plenty of cheap options in china, but just because it's made there doesn't automatically make it worse.

Hell, just because it was made in the US doesn't automatically make it better. Look at the automotive industry during the decline of US made cars. Hell, look at the Rane 6x gear - it wasn't exactly stellar in build compared to the older 54/56/57. Buttons failed, knobs got loose, faders broke, tons of shit went wrong with the 6x mixers and they were all made in the US.
Cnspeace 2:14 PM - 16 October, 2017
Anyone heard about a delay on these ?? I'm hearing different stories.
Aptidda 3:50 PM - 17 October, 2017
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Anyone heard about a delay on these ?? I'm hearing different stories.


I heard the same, from what I gather the twelve may still be released sometime soon.

However the seventy two is pushed into 2018...

Anyone from Rane care to chime in?
The Return of Dj Sparky 5:41 PM - 17 October, 2017
seeing as support wasn't added in 1.9.9 looks like its going to be in 2.0 which means probably a namm 2018 release , so jan 2018,

the fact we haven't even seen it running at all on serato means there is either production problems or they can't show sdj 2.0 till release
Mr. Goodkat 9:19 PM - 17 October, 2017
2017 odds 20-1
jan 2018 odds 8-1
by mar 2018 4-1
by june 2018 3-2

never 50-1
DJMIYAGI 6:10 PM - 18 October, 2017
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Anyone heard about a delay on these ?? I'm hearing different stories.

Release has been pushed back to Q1 of 2018. So release will be in between Jan-Mar
Herzl 7:10 PM - 18 October, 2017
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Anyone heard about a delay on these ?? I'm hearing different stories.

Release has been pushed back to Q1 of 2018. So release will be in between Jan-Mar


😩😩
How do you know?
DJMIYAGI 7:39 PM - 18 October, 2017
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Anyone heard about a delay on these ?? I'm hearing different stories.

Release has been pushed back to Q1 of 2018. So release will be in between Jan-Mar


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How do you know?

Let's just say I know people lol. When you think about it, it makes more sense to release the new gear at winter NAMM(end of Jan). That's when I think we'll also see SDJ 2.0 with support for the new gear from Rane and Denon plus other surprises Searto has in store.
Chino 8:56 PM - 18 October, 2017
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Let's just say I know people lol. When you think about it, it makes more sense to release the new gear at winter NAMM(end of Jan). That's when I think we'll also see SDJ 2.0 with support for the new gear from Rane and Denon plus other surprises Searto has in store.


+1

My 'Nostradamus' predictions for SDJ 2.0…. 64bit, DAY MODE, & maybe sample editing functionality/direct record to pads (wishful thinking, I know!!)

Hopefully, inMusic Brand (RANE) uses the extra time to make sure that the RANE 72 & Twelve is STABLE & RELIABLE!!!
WildcardX 9:22 PM - 18 October, 2017
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+1

My 'Nostradamus' predictions for SDJ 2.0…. 64bit, DAY MODE, & maybe sample editing functionality/direct record to pads (wishful thinking, I know!!)

Hopefully, inMusic Brand (RANE) uses the extra time to make sure that the RANE 72 & Twelve is STABLE & RELIABLE!!!


To add perspective to this, look how long the Denon Prime has been released and it still isn't supported yet publicly.
Chino 9:39 PM - 18 October, 2017
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To add perspective to this, look how long the Denon Prime has been released and it still isn't supported yet publicly.


Good point! Since the Rane Twelve is an 'OSA' device I would image that it should be supported at launch. The Rane 72 is also being advertised as officially supported by SDJ too.

Maybe there will be more info @ NAMM 2018.
popnwave 10:11 PM - 18 October, 2017
At this rate the Denon and Rane stuff will be added at the same time!
DJMIYAGI 10:35 PM - 18 October, 2017
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Hopefully, inMusic Brand (RANE) uses the extra time to make sure that the RANE 72 & Twelve is STABLE & RELIABLE!!!


That's more than likely what's going on right now. When the 62 first came out I knew quite a few DJs who were having problems with the cross fader and Rane was using 68 faders as replacements. They're trying to avoid this and also line up the release of the new gear with the new Serato update. Nothing more disappointing than releasing a new software with no support for the latest hardware.
Cnspeace 12:12 PM - 20 October, 2017
So I got different info. That's why I posted. I know people too :) I was told it's 2 batches. One will be out this year...mid December. This batch was due on November 15th and now is about a month delayed. The second batch will ship out in February. This was confirmed by my source via Rane on 10/18. I know people are getting crazy mixed up info so I want to hear it from everyone else in addition to my source. Here is a message I got from Rane on Facebook (this was on the 13th and prompted me to post and follow up with my dealer):

Hello Cory. We understand our customers' situation very well; lots of us are DJs and eagerly wait for the newest gear to catch our eyes and take our money just like you. There are multiple factors that involve releasing a product; providing our customers with appropriately marketed material such as demo videos is not as easy as one may think. We here at Rane and our partners at Serato work together to get the Seventy-Two mixer 'battle-ready', with our customers' concerns in mind, and being hasty to please the masses is not how good quality products are made (I think you would agree). Any release dates that you have been given are not precise; we never gave an official release date to our dealers/distributors when we announced the new product. Once again, both us and our partners are working hard to make the Seventy-Two work right and work hard.

The 'waiting game' struggle is real Cory, and we are on the edge of our seats too


I don't believe anyone knows when this is coming out other than Rane ...
Aptidda 4:13 PM - 20 October, 2017
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So I got different info. That's why I posted. I know people too :) I was told it's 2 batches. One will be out this year...mid December. This batch was due on November 15th and now is about a month delayed. The second batch will ship out in February. This was confirmed by my source via Rane on 10/18. I know people are getting crazy mixed up info so I want to hear it from everyone else in addition to my source. Here is a message I got from Rane on Facebook (this was on the 13th and prompted me to post and follow up with my dealer):

Hello Cory. We understand our customers' situation very well; lots of us are DJs and eagerly wait for the newest gear to catch our eyes and take our money just like you. There are multiple factors that involve releasing a product; providing our customers with appropriately marketed material such as demo videos is not as easy as one may think. We here at Rane and our partners at Serato work together to get the Seventy-Two mixer 'battle-ready', with our customers' concerns in mind, and being hasty to please the masses is not how good quality products are made (I think you would agree). Any release dates that you have been given are not precise; we never gave an official release date to our dealers/distributors when we announced the new product. Once again, both us and our partners are working hard to make the Seventy-Two work right and work hard.

The 'waiting game' struggle is real Cory, and we are on the edge of our seats too


I don't believe anyone knows when this is coming out other than Rane ...


well said
Mr. Goodkat 1:23 AM - 21 October, 2017
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I don't believe anyone knows when this is coming out other than Rane ...


ill bet they dont know either
Aptidda 3:54 PM - 26 October, 2017
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To add perspective to this, look how long the Denon Prime has been released and it still isn't supported yet publicly.


Good point! Since the Rane Twelve is an 'OSA' device I would image that it should be supported at launch. The Rane 72 is also being advertised as officially supported by SDJ too.

Maybe there will be more info @ NAMM 2018.


What is an "OSA" device?

Thanks
Robb Royale 5:58 PM - 26 October, 2017
What is an "OSA" device?

Official Serato Accessory
WildcardX 5:58 PM - 26 October, 2017
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What is an "OSA" device?

Thanks


Official Serato Accessory example, SPI, AFX, Dicers etc.
DJ Matty Stiles 1:47 PM - 4 November, 2017
I think being able to see the waveforms on the mixer will be the deal breaker for me to buy the rane over the pioneer.

I mean, dont get me wrong, my 62 does the job its supposed to with no issues.

Do i need the 72? Probably not lol. Do I want it? Hell yeah!
Laz219 1:59 PM - 4 November, 2017
...Does deal breaker make sense in that?
Ragman 2:24 PM - 4 November, 2017
The hardware is ready. Waiting on SDJ 2.0 with 64bit architecture to be released. Serato is making sure "i's" are dotted and "t's" are crossed. 2.0 is a big undertaking for Serato so understandable about the delay. We just need to be patient as Jan is right around the corner at this point.
Cnspeace 3:15 PM - 4 November, 2017
Where did you get 64 bit from ? Heard noting about that from Rane. I hope so , but I haven't heard a peep on that
DJ Matty Stiles 11:53 PM - 4 November, 2017
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...Does deal breaker make sense in that?

the tipping point in terms of my preference of mixer
dj_soo 11:54 PM - 4 November, 2017
deal breaker is usually something that prevents you from doing something - like not being able to change the left and right controls independently on the S9 was a dealbreaker for me not buying it.
NUdisc0 3:01 AM - 5 November, 2017
Those waveforms on the 72 are pretty useless.
WildcardX 1:24 PM - 5 November, 2017
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Those waveforms on the 72 are pretty useless.


Especially if they suffer that same jerky issue with the display. I don't really use waveforms except just to confirm that my ear hears drift and occasional confirmation of a cue point though i have noticed it, but trying to imagine that jerky waveform on that small screen would be something else. Let's hope the release that corresponds with the release of the hardware has addressed this.
Chino 3:03 PM - 5 November, 2017
Personally, I'm more interested in using the X/Y touchscreen for manipulating effects.

Obviously, the processor that RANE chooses to run the screens will have a big impact on how well the screen works & whether or not latency will be an issue.

The Rane 72 is NOT cheap so I hope inMusic Brand (RANE) puts top quality components in the 72.
Cnspeace 3:09 PM - 5 November, 2017
The waves are only useless if you don't use waves. I can't say I don't get serato face some days..so that is one of the main deal makers. It's also touch screen so I'm sure I'll think of more things to do with the waves. X/Y effects are the biggest perk for the screen, but now I don't need my laptop screen at all thanks to the waves on board. Considering the competition and their displays, I think it will display smooth.
J.J. 10:19 PM - 6 November, 2017
I would rather the RANE 72 screen display the Icicles (Tempo Matching Display) instead of the waveforms.

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The tempo matching display area provides a helpful tool for beat matching. Serato DJ detects the beats within the track and places a row of red peaks (for the track on the left deck) above a row of gold peaks (for the track on the right deck) in the tempo matching display area. When the two tracks are matched to the same tempo, the peaks will line up. This display does not show the relative timing of the beats, only the tempos of the tracks. The peaks will still line up when the tracks are playing at the same tempo, but are out of sync.
DJMIYAGI 12:26 AM - 7 November, 2017
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I would rather the RANE 72 screen display the Icicles (Tempo Matching Display) instead of the waveforms.


That's a waste of screen real estate. If the tempo match display was above the waveforms like in the software, that would be practical.
NUdisc0 12:27 AM - 7 November, 2017
Id rather it display the full waveform and playback position.
DJ Matty Stiles 1:36 PM - 7 November, 2017
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I would rather the RANE 72 screen display the Icicles (Tempo Matching Display) instead of the waveforms.

+1
Aptidda 4:03 PM - 7 November, 2017
whatever we say isn't going to matter until this is released. anyone doing beta on this?
Chino 3:22 PM - 8 November, 2017
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whatever we say isn't going to matter until this is released


What we say (suggestions & opinions) matter! inMusic Brand (RANE) needs to listen to their customers if they want the Rane 72 & Twelve to sell & be successful!!

If inMusic Brand (RANE) listens to their customers prior to product release then there will be little to no customer disappointment (hopefully) once the Rane 72 & Twelve are actually released.
popnwave 3:29 PM - 8 November, 2017
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whatever we say isn't going to matter until this is released


What we say (suggestions & opinions) matter! inMusic Brand (RANE) needs to listen to their customers if they want the Rane 72 & Twelve to sell & be successful!!

If inMusic Brand (RANE) listens to their customers prior to product release then there will be little to no customer disappointment (hopefully) once the Rane 72 & Twelve are actually released.


That's a dangerous move for most business and leads to some horrible project creep. There's gonna be someone complaining no matter what you do.
Aptidda 6:13 PM - 8 November, 2017
the seventy two will sell itself, i'm getting one on release day. Serato is always there with great support no matter what, they are certainly going to be supporting rane's new flagship mixer- its on the hype.
DJ Matty Stiles 6:06 AM - 9 November, 2017
I wonder if the feel of the pads will be different to the S9
dj_soo 6:07 AM - 9 November, 2017
pads will definitely be MPC pads. So it'll likely feel the same as the pads on all the newer Numark and Denon gear.
DJ Matty Stiles 6:09 AM - 9 November, 2017
ooh I hope they have a click. Something I'm definately missing on my SP-1 (which I assume is the same buttons on the S9). I don't mind them a little squishy, like the dicers.
J.J. 6:40 PM - 9 November, 2017
Pressure sensitive Pads rarely come with a click. I love the Pads on my NS7ii thanks to Akai.
Bondage 1:00 PM - 20 November, 2017
anyone know the dimensions from the 72 & Twelve?
DJMIYAGI 7:12 PM - 20 November, 2017
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anyone know the dimensions from the 72 & Twelve?

72 will more than likely be around 10.5" x 14" and the Twelve will be around 14" x 14"
Bondage 7:46 PM - 20 November, 2017
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anyone know the dimensions from the 72 & Twelve?

72 will more than likely be around 10.5" x 14" and the Twelve will be around 14" x 14"


tnx bro !!
Andrei Matei 5:29 AM - 21 November, 2017
Read somewhere that it usually takes Serato 2-3 months from a major version private beta to release. So I echo the comments above; I bet Rane is ready but is probably waiting for the 2.0 release as there are too many new features where a 1.9.11 wouldn't cut it.
WildcardX 1:17 PM - 21 November, 2017
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Read somewhere that it usually takes Serato 2-3 months from a major version private beta to release. So I echo the comments above; I bet Rane is ready but is probably waiting for the 2.0 release as there are too many new features where a 1.9.11 wouldn't cut it.

From what has been leaking out, Serato 2.0 is going to be major as well as may possibly have been a total rebuild that made the incremental releases we say to support new hardware actual side projects because maybe it was easier for some personnel to add support while most of the focus was on the upcoming release.
popnwave 4:54 PM - 21 November, 2017
Considering the TWELVE and 72 aren't even out yet I am not sure why you'd worry about which version of SDJ might support it. Look how long it took the new Denon stuff to get added.

People need to realize you have to get a breather from adding new hardware support to enhance or bug fix what you already have.
Rebelguy 5:33 PM - 21 November, 2017
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Considering the TWELVE and 72 aren't even out yet I am not sure why you'd worry about which version of SDJ might support it. Look how long it took the new Denon stuff to get added.

People need to realize you have to get a breather from adding new hardware support to enhance or bug fix what you already have.


From what I’ve heard the 72 is still 4-6 months away so I’m not sure if 2.0 will support it.
popnwave 5:42 PM - 21 November, 2017
NAMM is at the end of January so I bet 2.0 gets a release around then and more hardware follows.

Serato should just do 2.x for bug fix/feature releases and 2.x.x for when they add new hardware. Then they don't have a gun to their heads (by overzealous users) by users who can't handle stuff like 1.9.10, lol.
WildcardX 11:50 PM - 21 November, 2017
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From what I’ve heard the 72 is still 4-6 months away so I’m not sure if 2.0 will support it.


It might be closer than you think. Pictures have surfaces on certain places on FB with the 72 in use with 12s and waveforms on the 72 display. They were stills of some one using the gear.
Cnspeace 11:57 PM - 21 November, 2017
I've heard before Christmas. I saw the images on FB also. Heard of a few people that have the private beta for Serato, but they say they signed a disclaimer stating they can't post or talk about what they are seeing. My dealer said before X-Mas. Rane said still 4th quarter..hopefully not much longer now.
Rebelguy 12:08 AM - 22 November, 2017
I have heard they are still on Alpha software.
DJ Tecniq 1:03 AM - 22 November, 2017
SDJ 2.0 will be released when Mixars decides to release their Primo controller...never lol
DJ Matty Stiles 11:07 AM - 22 November, 2017
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Pictures have surfaces on certain places on FB with the 72 in use with 12s and waveforms on the 72 display

please share!
WildcardX 11:16 AM - 22 November, 2017
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Pictures have surfaces on certain places on FB with the 72 in use with 12s and waveforms on the 72 display

please share!


As much as I would like to, and as much as I am not part of the Private Beta Testing, I would much rather prefer not to out of respect for the organization and how they approached this initial testing phase but they are about on Facebook in certain groups at least a week already, maybe even 2.
Bondage 11:18 AM - 22 November, 2017
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Considering the TWELVE and 72 aren't even out yet I am not sure why you'd worry about which version of SDJ might support it. Look how long it took the new Denon stuff to get added.

People need to realize you have to get a breather from adding new hardware support to enhance or bug fix what you already have.


From what I’ve heard the 72 is still 4-6 months away so I’m not sure if 2.0 will support it.


i hope not !! I sold my nxs2 kit cause i thought it would be jan 2018 !! Ps: I love Pio gear s but RANE is so much stronger and more quality... The face plate from a DJM is iron -> joking me? It's 2017 ... Iron is heavy and it can oxidate ... I hope the Rane 72 and twelve will be a big succes
DJ Matty Stiles 11:23 AM - 22 November, 2017
also i never get my hopes up for a release. It took years for a decent key lock, which still uses a ton of horsepower, serato DJ was buggy AF, club kit shouldve been years earlier, the bridge went (along with the killer mixtape feature). Pulselocker came and went. Theres a ton of library features missing. Still waiting on proper retina compatibility and its about to be 2018. Still jerky waveforms in 2017. HID mode is still clumsy and requres a "dongle" ie interface box connected which is stupid from a practical point of view but i understand for a licensing point of view. FX still need improving.

The above are just annoyances but I can live with them. At the end of the day serato DJ is still stable, albeit not as much as scratch live was. I guess when you accomodate all these shitty little controllers you have to compromise. However my heart is still with and will always be with serato. I own traktor also. Hate it. I also have played with the rekordbox trial. Hate it. I look forward to what serato 2.0 / serato pro will bring. As flip was cool. Key tagging was cool. Naming cue points was cool. The stability is still there. Still the best GUI. Gotta give credit to the original DVS system with colored waveforms.
DJ Matty Stiles 11:26 AM - 22 November, 2017
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Pictures have surfaces on certain places on FB with the 72 in use with 12s and waveforms on the 72 display

please share!


As much as I would like to, and as much as I am not part of the Private Beta Testing, I would much rather prefer not to out of respect for the organization and how they approached this initial testing phase but they are about on Facebook in certain groups at least a week already, maybe even 2.

fair enough man. I respect that.
DJMIYAGI 4:55 PM - 22 November, 2017
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Pictures have surfaces on certain places on FB with the 72 in use with 12s and waveforms on the 72 display

please share!


As much as I would like to, and as much as I am not part of the Private Beta Testing, I would much rather prefer not to out of respect for the organization and how they approached this initial testing phase but they are about on Facebook in certain groups at least a week already, maybe even 2.

fair enough man. I respect that.

Look at the image of the 72 on GC's website. It clearly shows the waveforms on the screen. It's no secret
www.guitarcenter.com
popnwave 5:07 PM - 22 November, 2017
The 72 + TWELVES combo looks way more fun to me than the Denon Prime setup!

I cannot wait to see them in the flesh, but you bet your ass I am going to wait a good 3 months after they hit the street to let you masochists expose any bugs before me, lol.
WildcardX 5:13 PM - 22 November, 2017
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Look at the image of the 72 on GC's website. It clearly shows the waveforms on the screen. It's no secret
www.guitarcenter.com


It's not stock images I was referring to, they were actual images of some one using the gear in a set.
DJMIYAGI 9:12 PM - 22 November, 2017
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Look at the image of the 72 on GC's website. It clearly shows the waveforms on the screen. It's no secret
www.guitarcenter.com


It's not stock images I was referring to, they were actual images of some one using the gear in a set.

Ahh okay. Read too fast lol
DJ Matty Stiles 1:38 AM - 24 November, 2017
for turntablism I can see huge benefits of having the waveforms on the mixer. I can just imagine this will be the standard mixer at DMC competitions. Having the record and the waveform in the same line of sight will really speed up efficiency
Ragman 1:35 PM - 24 November, 2017
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[...] Having the record and the waveform in the same line of sight will really speed up efficiency

Xactly. I've been preaching this for ever. Actually I prophesied the coming of both these products a long time ago. Did not think it would be Rane to launch them though but I am so glad they are. I don't think these products would have the same juice if they came from Numark or Denon.
938MyDJ 4:36 PM - 24 November, 2017
The screen technology on the 72 might be from Numark or Denon... most likely.

Just like how the the pads are from Aikai... don’t you think?

It won’t matter though if the build and sound quality is still from Rane.
Asu 6:09 PM - 24 November, 2017
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To me it's just a super expensive controller setup...not usable without a laptop.The denon setup wins here or a pair of CDjs and the 72...being able to play from a flash drive or HDD without a laptop is always a plus.

I wish the 72 had black key pads...maybe i'll wait for the MKII
popnwave 6:25 PM - 24 November, 2017
Dude, we're Serato users, we ALWAYS use a laptop.

If you're not, you're obviously not what this is aimed at. Rekordbox fine, still don't trust Engine Prime enough AND I do video so not using a laptop isn't going to happen any time soon.
Cnspeace 5:34 PM - 26 November, 2017
I know the screen will be very expensive to replace, so I wonder if they will sell a protective cover...like on a phone. (Scratches/ cracks )
Bondage 7:52 AM - 27 November, 2017
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I know the screen will be very expensive to replace, so I wonder if they will sell a protective cover...like on a phone. (Scratches/ cracks )



It's Rane ... Build like a tank !! And scratches and cracks are because your phone is in your pocket together with money and your keys ;) No worry, your fingers will not make scratches -> otherwise girls would not all looking so pretty ;)
Bondage 7:56 AM - 27 November, 2017
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Dude, we're Serato users, we ALWAYS use a laptop.

If you're not, you're obviously not what this is aimed at. Rekordbox fine, still don't trust Engine Prime enough AND I do video so not using a laptop isn't going to happen any time soon.


I hope they do "qwerty search" ... I know it's not needed because you have your computer but it's not nasa technology to make such feature possible !! Then you can put your computer everywhere with a long usb cable #smallplaces #nostress
dj_soo 8:00 AM - 27 November, 2017
Independent, US Rane and InMusic, chinese-made Rane are different companies. As the 72 and Twelves will be the first product from the new Rane, it remains to be seen how the new product will be.

That said, unlike a lot of people here, I think quality can come from China - they just have to be willing to pay for the quality stuff. The new Denon decks and mixers seem solidly built, although they've only been around for 6 months. The latest controllers seem good hardware-wise, but Denon hasn't exactly impressed on the software or customer support side of things. Hope some changes happen with that...
Bondage 8:13 AM - 27 November, 2017
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Independent, US Rane and InMusic, chinese-made Rane are different companies. As the 72 and Twelves will be the first product from the new Rane, it remains to be seen how the new product will be.

That said, unlike a lot of people here, I think quality can come from China - they just have to be willing to pay for the quality stuff. The new Denon decks and mixers seem solidly built, although they've only been around for 6 months. The latest controllers seem good hardware-wise, but Denon hasn't exactly impressed on the software or customer support side of things. Hope some changes happen with that...


I understand you. I worked in dj shop and my main selling point was the fact Rane was made in USA !! I hate made in China ... But it's 2017 -> allot things and big brands are not made anymore in the USA or Germany = it's life. And even if the Rane is less quality then before it will be still better quality mixer then the competition.

I love Pioneer, but it's not quality compared to Rane. I am always stressed about finding a seller for my pioneer gear each 2 year cause I know after more then 2 years it will looking ...

Do you know a (competition) brand that is still made in europe or usa... Me not ...
Rodec scratchbox (belgium -> dead)
Ecler -> (spain -> dead)
WildcardX 11:25 AM - 27 November, 2017
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True, I have a OnePlus One phone i have now relegated to work and it was released in 2014 and I bought it used and modded (on top of the modding I did to it when I got it) and it is still going strong and reliably as my work phone and this is a Chinese made hand set. So quality can come from China. Also to touch on the topic of that touch screen, it may not get messed up from the usual stuff that phones go through, but remember, travelling with gear can be brutal if they are not protected and even in set up some one might bungle things and just like that the screen is gone. Might just take some one holding a drink with moisture on the glass that touches the scree, water seeps in the sides and that is the end. Happens with phones even with pristine looking screens but he digitizer layer that interprets the touches gets borked up. Or shoot, just some random A-hole decides to spill a drink on it and that could be the end. So far Pioneer units with touchscreens seem to be doing well so maybe the same type of hardware was employed here, Pioneer doesn't make screens so they would have had to source them from some where and hte hope is that Rane does the same (Apple phones use Samsung panels for their screens so there's that.)
popnwave 3:38 PM - 27 November, 2017
Just because something is Chinese at this point doesn't man it's cheap. All of our smartphones are made there with parts from other countries.

I do agree it is sad that it's cheaper to make something around the world from US or EU and ship it all the way back.
Cnspeace 6:26 PM - 27 November, 2017
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It's Rane ... Build like a tank !! And scratches and cracks are because your phone is in your pocket together with money and your keys ;) No worry, your fingers will not make scratches -> otherwise girls would not all looking so pretty ;)



The screen can still get scratched or damaged. That's like saying skins are useless. "like" a tank..not an actual tank.
DJMIYAGI 9:27 PM - 27 November, 2017
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IThe screen can still get scratched or damaged. That's like saying skins are useless. "like" a tank..not an actual tank.


The screens on the Pioneer CDJ/XDJs and Denon Prime players are very well built and I'm sure Rane isn't going to use a glass screen like on phones and tablets. You shouldn't worry about it man.
dj_soo 9:40 PM - 27 November, 2017
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True, I have a OnePlus One phone i have now relegated to work and it was released in 2014 and I bought it used and modded (on top of the modding I did to it when I got it) and it is still going strong and reliably as my work phone and this is a Chinese made hand set. So quality can come from China. Also to touch on the topic of that touch screen, it may not get messed up from the usual stuff that phones go through, but remember, travelling with gear can be brutal if they are not protected and even in set up some one might bungle things and just like that the screen is gone. Might just take some one holding a drink with moisture on the glass that touches the scree, water seeps in the sides and that is the end. Happens with phones even with pristine looking screens but he digitizer layer that interprets the touches gets borked up. Or shoot, just some random A-hole decides to spill a drink on it and that could be the end. So far Pioneer units with touchscreens seem to be doing well so maybe the same type of hardware was employed here, Pioneer doesn't make screens so they would have had to source them from some where and hte hope is that Rane does the same (Apple phones use Samsung panels for their screens so there's that.)


I mean, all Apple products are made in China and it's not like they make crap hardware...
Mr. Goodkat 10:58 PM - 27 November, 2017
americans haven't yet bought into the reality that china runs everything and is more powerful than the states.
dj_soo 11:45 PM - 27 November, 2017
it's not like US made is automatically better. Hell, Detroit's big fall was because a lot of their US made cars were total shit in the 70s and 80s and being surpassed by cheaper, and better quality Japanese cars.

Even in the context of Rane, the 6x mixers took a decline in quality compared to their 5x mixers. The magnetic fader carriers are on the third iteration because the faders kept breaking on their first two attempts, the buttons misfire and get pushed into the unit, and the pot stems were plastic and got very loose over time. These were all still american made units and there were plenty of problems reported over the years.
Mr. Goodkat 4:12 AM - 28 November, 2017
u.s. propaganda and blind nationalism is strong
Bondage 7:54 AM - 28 November, 2017
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USA = first men on the moon !! Pls call me one modern mixer that is more quality (not the fun aspect) then Rane ... ?? Pls say me ...

I got my opinion and i owned 56, 61, 62, 68, 64, djm 800/900mk1&mk2, Djm 909, xone db4... I now sold my nexus kit for the 72 cause about what i read they got it right this time.

that means for me -> full fun + quality
Bondage 7:56 AM - 28 November, 2017
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USA = first men on the moon !! Pls call me one modern mixer that is more quality (not the fun aspect) then Rane ... ?? Pls say me ...

I got my opinion and i owned 56, 61, 62, 68, 64, djm 800/900mk1&mk2, Djm 909, xone db4... I now sold my nexus kit for the 72 cause about what i read they got it right this time.

that means for me -> full fun + quality


forgot to say ... Rane is the only brand that ships 3 magnetic faders (not the 68&64) !!
Rebelguy 8:08 AM - 28 November, 2017
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What do you consider modern?

Rodec Scratchbox
Ecler Hak 360
Xone 92
Rebelguy 8:08 AM - 28 November, 2017
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What do you consider modern?

Rodec Scratchbox
Ecler Hak 360
Xone 92
Bondage 9:00 AM - 28 November, 2017
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What do you consider modern?

Rodec Scratchbox
Ecler Hak 360
Xone 92


Scratchbox:
= fantastic OPTICAL crossfader but and 2 normal faders
= Rodec stopped production
= no effects + no soundcard

Ecler Hak 360:
= fantastic crossfader but and 2 normal faders
= Ecler stopped production
= no effects + no soundcard

Xone 92
= maybe the best 'cheap mixer' professional mixer on the market
= no soundcard, no magnetic or optical crossfader + no space in the crossfader area

So the only modern mixer you are saying is a model (2001) that is idd strong and is good sounding, but not modern ... Don't get me wrong -> xone 92 is class mixer in his kind
Rebelguy 4:11 PM - 28 November, 2017
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Pls call me one modern mixer that is more quality (not the fun aspect) then Rane ... ?? Pls say me ...


What do you consider modern?

Rodec Scratchbox
Ecler Hak 360
Xone 92


Scratchbox:
= fantastic OPTICAL crossfader but and 2 normal faders
= Rodec stopped production
= no effects + no soundcard

Ecler Hak 360:
= fantastic crossfader but and 2 normal faders
= Ecler stopped production
= no effects + no soundcard

Xone 92
= maybe the best 'cheap mixer' professional mixer on the market
= no soundcard, no magnetic or optical crossfader + no space in the crossfader area

So the only modern mixer you are saying is a model (2001) that is idd strong and is good sounding, but not modern ... Don't get me wrong -> xone 92 is class mixer in his kind


I assumed your question was not in relation to the feature set of the competition but the build quality. Based on build quality any of the ones I mentioned would be comparable to Rane.

Based on reviews i would possibly add the Denon X1800. Supposedly the effects, sound and build quality are all great. Given that Rane and Denon are under the same corporate umbrella I would think they are going to be manufactured at the same factory. The quality of this mixer should give us a good idea of what the new Rane
might be like.
WildcardX 6:49 PM - 28 November, 2017
So apart from all of this chatter, it would really majorly suck if the Seventy-Two turns out to have some kind of manufacturer defects or failure that didn't come up in testing like function wise or even cosmetic like the early S9s had with paint flake on the face plate in early production runs.
dj zaza 7:26 PM - 28 November, 2017
I crep that waveform display works like on the Numark Dashboard, i tried it a week ago i i dumped back, on the mac the waveform was smooth on the dashboard went to shots. hopefully it is managed differently.
DJ Matty Stiles 11:10 PM - 28 November, 2017
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I crep that waveform display works like on the Numark Dashboard, i tried it a week ago i i dumped back, on the mac the waveform was smooth on the dashboard went to shots. hopefully it is managed differently.

Was thinking about getting a dashboard with my 62. This will save me the effort.

Also in regards to possible defects, I’m definatelt holding off buying it for a few months. I wanna wait for the reviews here on this forum. Maybe even a side by side comparison with the pioneer from Mojaxx / Chris brackley would be cool
AKIEM 12:09 AM - 29 November, 2017
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USA = first men on the moon !! Pls call me one modern mixer that is more quality (not the fun aspect) then Rane ... ?? Pls say me ...


Second man in space. And I grantee you I'm not playing on a Russian made mixer.
WildcardX 12:18 AM - 29 November, 2017
And now I just saw video of Fat Fingaz using the whole setup on FB with Seventy-Two and the Twelves. That Low Latency is amazing with what he was doing and the still that were seen earlier was from this.
Cnspeace 12:33 AM - 29 November, 2017
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And now I just saw video of Fat Fingaz using the whole setup on FB with Seventy-Two and the Twelves. That Low Latency is amazing with what he was doing and the still that were seen earlier was from this.


About time right ? ...As I was typing I see another one !

www.instagram.com

Finally got to see the vinyl slip on the platter.
Cnspeace 12:36 AM - 29 November, 2017
I just thought about a cover... a dust cover or something. I guess we will have to case the 12s up ??
dj zaza 8:04 AM - 29 November, 2017
I've seen the video, it does not seem to turn the waveform bad, though it's very small, then I always stay on mys with these novelties, if you happen to stop it all and have no related analog source, stay like a fish.
Mr. Goodkat 9:45 AM - 29 November, 2017
serato face was bad, but looking at that screen is gonna be terrible on necks

almost class action bad
DJ Tecniq 12:39 PM - 29 November, 2017
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serato face was bad, but looking at that screen is gonna be terrible on necks

almost class action bad
can’t really see a problem with that it would be no different that looking at turntable markers considering it’s the same height or a mixer. As DJ’s we do a majority of looking down esp when mixing.
DJ Tecniq 12:40 PM - 29 November, 2017
Vinyl markers* i meant
Aptidda 3:47 PM - 29 November, 2017
trying to determine if I want to pre-order, and if so from where? Or just wait for some shops to get them in. I figure if a place has TONS of pre orders you could be waiting much longer than just calling into a store soon to when they are released.

Like when the S9 came out I didn't pre-order, I just went to the store on release day and copped one.

Thoughts?
popnwave 5:25 PM - 29 November, 2017
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trying to determine if I want to pre-order, and if so from where? Or just wait for some shops to get them in. I figure if a place has TONS of pre orders you could be waiting much longer than just calling into a store soon to when they are released.

Like when the S9 came out I didn't pre-order, I just went to the store on release day and copped one.

Thoughts?


These things looks sweet but unless you have time to deal with bugs, I'd wait 6 months after release to get a set.
DJMIYAGI 6:40 PM - 29 November, 2017
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Decksaver will have covers for sure
DaltonSR20 2:05 AM - 1 December, 2017
Well damn..... I kinda want one now.

www.instagram.com
djed 9:51 PM - 1 December, 2017
Sucks got message from my local Rane dealer Rane 72 delayed new release date March 2018
DJMIYAGI 12:50 AM - 2 December, 2017
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Exactly why I didn't pre-order. Rane is obviously taking their time to perfect the products before they are released. Hopefully there are no bugs with the first batch
Aptidda 12:56 AM - 2 December, 2017
Just sold the S9 and got the pre order in with guitar center! Yeeee
J.J. 1:23 AM - 2 December, 2017
Rane release this October 13th, so it shouldn't be a shocker for March 2018.

“The RANE SEVENTY-TWO and TWELVE both will bring several new and advanced features to users. RANE DJ is committed to 100% quality and in doing so has pushed the availability/launch date back to early 2018.”
Aptidda 1:40 AM - 2 December, 2017
Y'all better offload those S9's! I got top dollar for mine.
Chino 2:53 AM - 2 December, 2017
I'm glad inMusic Brand's RANE is taking their time to make sure what is released is a quality product.

Im interested to see how their customer service & build quality stacks up against the Legacy Rane company.
Chino 2:58 AM - 2 December, 2017
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+1. That is some very good advice.
DMV Dj D-Lux 1:36 PM - 12 December, 2017
I love Rane products. better sound, better quality. I'm in the process of selling my S9. Can't stand the sound, the feel of the fader (even tried replacing it with the infinity and inno faders) and I still didn't like the cut in. My 62 feels better to me than the S9. I'm sold! Rane gives quality and seems to work better with Serato. The s9 fader feels like a 05Pro fader!
DJ Matty Stiles 2:13 PM - 12 December, 2017
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From my experience with Rane and Pioneer mixers, is the crossfader is a lot sharper on the Rane, and a lot softer on the pioneer. Even when I set my 62 crossfader to the slowest setting its still almost double the cut in on medium setting of the DJM 900.

I personally prefer the Pioneer fader for blending, its a lot smother. For cutting theyre both very sharp

Do you find my descrpition of the curve accurate? Is this whats bugging you?
DJ Matty Stiles 2:15 PM - 12 December, 2017
and I could be wrong, but the Rane 62 crossfader seems a little shorter in length than pioneer. At least it feels that way
DJ Tecniq 4:27 PM - 12 December, 2017
The S9’s cut in can be changed in the Pioneer utility at like 0.1 mm that is incredibly sharp🤷🏼‍♂️
Aptidda 9:44 PM - 12 December, 2017
Since I sold my S9 last week I picked up a Vestax PMC 06 Pro VCA to hold me over until my Seventy Two is shipped. Funny enough the old Vestax mixer sounds warmer and better than my S9 did.

I was never completely satisfied with the S9 fader either. I even adjusted it (via software) to the 0.1 mm increment (which only stayed that sharp when plugged into a computer). Without a computer hooked up the S9 cut in was no good, ESPECIALLY on the upfaders.

Cant wait for the Rane and glad I got top dollar for the S9. Get rid of em while ya can!
Robbie O 10:37 PM - 12 December, 2017
So now the S9 is inferior to some thing that hasn't even come out yet?...

I'd rather lose out on selling the S9 for "top dollar" (really just a couple hundred) and get the 72 after the hype is proven to be real, than be out of a top of the line battle mixer for months while hoping the 72 meets the hype.
Aptidda 10:48 PM - 12 December, 2017
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So now the S9 is inferior to some thing that hasn't even come out yet?...

I'd rather lose out on selling the S9 for "top dollar" (really just a couple hundred) and get the 72 after the hype is proven to be real, than be out of a top of the line battle mixer for months while hoping the 72 meets the hype.


The Vestax PMC 06 PRO will do me just fine while I wait, got it for $100. Keep yer eyes peeled for the reviews, S9 is gonna be doo doo next to the 72.
Mr. Goodkat 10:52 PM - 12 December, 2017
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So now the S9 is inferior to some thing that hasn't even come out yet?...

I'd rather lose out on selling the S9 for "top dollar" (really just a couple hundred) and get the 72 after the hype is proven to be real, than be out of a top of the line battle mixer for months while hoping the 72 meets the hype.


The Vestax PMC 06 PRO will do me just fine while I wait, got it for $100. Keep yer eyes peeled for the reviews, S9 is gonna be doo doo next to the 72.


you know the s9 works, it has a huge user base and is currently the standard in battle mixers. 72 has been pushed back a year, has new tech that hasnt been battle tested and is made by a company that has never made rane mixers and has made some decent products and lots of iffy to not great products.

why are ppl losing all rationale over these 2 products?
DJMIYAGI 11:36 PM - 12 December, 2017
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Probably because the 57 and 62 are hands down some of the best mixers ever made so the 72 will follow the trend and DJs have been asking for a 12" motorized platter controller and now they have to wait even longer for both products.
Mr. Goodkat 11:46 PM - 12 December, 2017
i get the anticipation, but this some of the recent posts have the rationale of an ancient aliens episode
DJMIYAGI 11:57 PM - 12 December, 2017
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Yeah I would never sell my current mixer before the new one I have my eye on comes out. I may even wait to get a 72 to make sure there are no issues, but I think that is another reason Rane is taking their time. Everyone is concerned about Chinese manufacturing but I would bet money that you can't tell the difference between an American assembled SL4 vs a Chinese assembled SL4. People worry too much.
RIDDIMNBLUES 12:53 AM - 13 December, 2017
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Remember although rane is no more in music kept most of the original engineers that worked on all the past rane mixer, this is the same crew thats working on the 72
Aptidda 2:03 AM - 13 December, 2017
Ya that comment was stupid. It's still the same core team just now have a parent company = more funding and resources. The inmusic partnership only helped rane.
DJ Tecniq 2:33 AM - 13 December, 2017
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Wow this was actually fixed in a firmware update and no longer a problem with the cut-in.
Aptidda 3:08 AM - 13 December, 2017
I was running the latest firmware. The upfaders were doo doo. And the regular fader was def not .1 mm.
Ragman 4:45 AM - 13 December, 2017
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and is made by a company that has never made rane mixers


Remember although rane is no more in music kept most of the original engineers that worked on all the past rane mixer, this is the same crew thats working on the 72

What he said ...
Mr. Goodkat 5:25 AM - 13 December, 2017
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Ya that comment was stupid. It's still the same core team just now have a parent company = more funding and resources. The inmusic partnership only helped rane.


no it didnt. thats ridiculous. there is simply no way that inmusic will be a better company than rane. you must not have owned many rane products over the years
Logisticalstyles 12:11 PM - 13 December, 2017
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and is made by a company that has never made rane mixers


Remember although rane is no more in music kept most of the original engineers that worked on all the past rane mixer, this is the same crew thats working on the 72


A lot can go wrong between the engineering phase and the manufacturing phase. The people at the old Rane that assembled and tested the products are not around anymore.
Chino 1:08 PM - 13 December, 2017
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A lot can go wrong between the engineering phase and the manufacturing phase. The people at the old Rane that assembled and tested the products are not around anymore.


This! Rane EARNED my trust over the years. InMusic Brand hasn't earned my trust & their current customer service is no where near the level of the legacy RANE company!!
dj Krazey leo 4:41 PM - 13 December, 2017
Sad but true.
Aptidda 11:46 PM - 13 December, 2017
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you must not have owned many rane products over the years


Lol sure; TTM 54i / TTM 56 / Sixty One. All been phenomenal. Can't wait for the Seventy Two to trump all you S9 fanboys (tossed mine and will never be looking back for the seventy two pre order).
Mr. Goodkat 11:55 PM - 13 December, 2017
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you must not have owned many rane products over the years


Lol sure; TTM 54i / TTM 56 / Sixty One. All been phenomenal. Can't wait for the Seventy Two to trump all you S9 fanboys (tossed mine and will never be looking back for the seventy two pre order).



i was hoping you hadn't so your comment didnt seem so misinformed
Aptidda 2:45 AM - 14 December, 2017
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you must not have owned many rane products over the years


Lol sure; TTM 54i / TTM 56 / Sixty One. All been phenomenal. Can't wait for the Seventy Two to trump all you S9 fanboys (tossed mine and will never be looking back for the seventy two pre order).



i was hoping you hadn't so your comment didnt seem so misinformed


I know right?
DJ Marv the Maverick 1:44 PM - 14 December, 2017
Sold your tested and trusted for a product that's not been released.

The older Rane products were all simple enough to make, rane sound and good faders but remember they had no screens. Jury is out on how the screens will play especially as they seem to be Serato baked.

Will they cause too much stress on computer resources?

I have both the S9 and 62. I enjoy playing on my S9 way more than the 62.

You are taking a risk there...But then you could be a winner.

Do let's us know how you get on with the 72 when it gets released in a few months.

Rane hasn't released any firmware updates in like forever for their current products btw. is the 72 and 12 taking all their time.