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Recommend me some speakers please! EV, JBL, YAMAHA, QSC?!
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Recommend me some speakers please! EV, JBL, YAMAHA, QSC?!
Binhzino
2:28 PM - 15 March, 2014
I've been djing for a couple of years, but mostly in clubs and bars. I never really pay attention to the speakers those venues have or cared.. so I'm pretty "new" to the PA Live Sound game. Forgive me if I don't have a clue.
Anyways, I've been doing weddings for the past year now (pays way more than clubs/bars) and I always borrow my friend's QSC K12's, but I think it's about time to purchase my own. Usually I use 3-4 K12's (one as a monitor) on stands with no subwoofer at weddings for about 400-700 people. No complaints so far. I've looked at the prices for the QSC's and damn are they expensive. Someone told me the EV ZLX12P's are comparable and a lot cheaper. What do you guys think? I just want something inexpensive for now then step it up later.
Also, should I just purchase 15's instead of 12's? Was going to go with two 15's and one 12 or four 12's like how I've been doing with the QSC's. Planning on buying subs in the near future, but I need speakers first! Any input would be greatly appreciated - thanks!
Anyways, I've been doing weddings for the past year now (pays way more than clubs/bars) and I always borrow my friend's QSC K12's, but I think it's about time to purchase my own. Usually I use 3-4 K12's (one as a monitor) on stands with no subwoofer at weddings for about 400-700 people. No complaints so far. I've looked at the prices for the QSC's and damn are they expensive. Someone told me the EV ZLX12P's are comparable and a lot cheaper. What do you guys think? I just want something inexpensive for now then step it up later.
Also, should I just purchase 15's instead of 12's? Was going to go with two 15's and one 12 or four 12's like how I've been doing with the QSC's. Planning on buying subs in the near future, but I need speakers first! Any input would be greatly appreciated - thanks!
lvmez
2:59 PM - 15 March, 2014
Look in the Yamaha DRX15's. 2 of these can handle a decent size crowd.
JDforKing
3:29 PM - 15 March, 2014
i have no idea how you've been able to dj a 400 to 700 persons wedding with a pair of k12s.
Binhzino
3:31 PM - 15 March, 2014
3 for around 300-400
4 for larger
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i have no idea how you've been able to dj a 400 to 700 persons wedding with a pair of k12s.3 for around 300-400
4 for larger
Joee
4:13 PM - 15 March, 2014
+1 on this
how much money are you looking to spend on a pair of speakers?
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Look in the Yamaha DRX15's. 2 of these can handle a decent size crowd.+1 on this
how much money are you looking to spend on a pair of speakers?
Binhzino
4:16 PM - 15 March, 2014
+1 on this
how much money are you looking to spend on a pair of speakers?
Around $1000-1200 for a pair. Best bang for the buck would be ideal in my situation.
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Look in the Yamaha DRX15's. 2 of these can handle a decent size crowd.+1 on this
how much money are you looking to spend on a pair of speakers?
Around $1000-1200 for a pair. Best bang for the buck would be ideal in my situation.
Binhzino
4:54 PM - 15 March, 2014
+1 on this
how much money are you looking to spend on a pair of speakers?
Really leaning towards four ZLX-12P's and a sub. The venue I usually do weddings at, specifically ONE restaurant in Houston thatcouples usually book, is pretty big and wide.
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Look in the Yamaha DRX15's. 2 of these can handle a decent size crowd.+1 on this
how much money are you looking to spend on a pair of speakers?
Really leaning towards four ZLX-12P's and a sub. The venue I usually do weddings at, specifically ONE restaurant in Houston thatcouples usually book, is pretty big and wide.
Joee
5:15 PM - 15 March, 2014
one elx118p sub & two zlx12p's will not cover you for the 400 to 700 people events you do
look into these-----> www.ebay.com
---> www.ebay.com
there known as the qsc killer as of lately
get the sub later the 15's actually have a nice bass response for a top box
look into these-----> www.ebay.com
---> www.ebay.com
there known as the qsc killer as of lately
get the sub later the 15's actually have a nice bass response for a top box
Binhzino
5:17 PM - 15 March, 2014
look into these-----> www.ebay.com
---> www.ebay.com
there known as the qsc killer as of lately
get the sub later the 15's actually have a nice bass response for a top box
Thanks.. what do you recommend, the 12 or the 15?
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one elx118p sub & two zlx12p's will not cover you for the 400 to 700 people events you dolook into these-----> www.ebay.com
---> www.ebay.com
there known as the qsc killer as of lately
get the sub later the 15's actually have a nice bass response for a top box
Thanks.. what do you recommend, the 12 or the 15?
Joee
5:21 PM - 15 March, 2014
if your not using a sub 15's if your using a sub 12's
is size/weight/transportation a issues at all
is size/weight/transportation a issues at all
Binhzino
5:22 PM - 15 March, 2014
is size/weight/transportation a issues at all
Transportation no issue. Size and weight...... eh maybe. Weight more specifically, if I'm trying to put the tops on stands by myself.
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if your not using a sub 15's if your using a sub 12'sis size/weight/transportation a issues at all
Transportation no issue. Size and weight...... eh maybe. Weight more specifically, if I'm trying to put the tops on stands by myself.
Joee
5:35 PM - 15 March, 2014
www.ebay.com
www.ebay.com
^ 2 tops/2subs that system would make a real nice wedding rig
but for your needs of 400 to 700 people this sub is more of what you need it can be found for $1,150 delivered
yorkville.com
www.ebay.com
^ 2 tops/2subs that system would make a real nice wedding rig
but for your needs of 400 to 700 people this sub is more of what you need it can be found for $1,150 delivered
yorkville.com
DJ Val-BKNY11203
4:27 AM - 16 March, 2014
www.ebay.com
^ 2 tops/2subs that system would make a real nice wedding rig
but for your needs of 400 to 700 people this sub is more of what you need it can be found for $1,150 delivered
yorkville.com
Aren't you using a RCF sub?
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www.ebay.comwww.ebay.com
^ 2 tops/2subs that system would make a real nice wedding rig
but for your needs of 400 to 700 people this sub is more of what you need it can be found for $1,150 delivered
yorkville.com
Aren't you using a RCF sub?
Johnnynights
9:11 AM - 16 March, 2014
www.ebay.com
^ 2 tops/2subs that system would make a real nice wedding rig
but for your needs of 400 to 700 people this sub is more of what you need it can be found for $1,150 delivered
yorkville.com
I recommend you this setup also like Joee said..i was a former user of k12s but they would get harsh at loud volumes so i sold them to get something else. now i use 2 yamaha dxr12 and a yorkville ls801p way better setup.
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www.ebay.comwww.ebay.com
^ 2 tops/2subs that system would make a real nice wedding rig
but for your needs of 400 to 700 people this sub is more of what you need it can be found for $1,150 delivered
yorkville.com
I recommend you this setup also like Joee said..i was a former user of k12s but they would get harsh at loud volumes so i sold them to get something else. now i use 2 yamaha dxr12 and a yorkville ls801p way better setup.
Joee
11:19 AM - 16 March, 2014
yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
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Aren't you using a RCF sub?yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
DJ GOOK
9:48 PM - 16 March, 2014
I'm still confused. How do he do a wedding of 300 -400 people with 3 k12 and no sub at all. Matrix B52 1000 is good for 250 people max and that has a sub. Joee,Diddy,Gaffle and any other speaker pros please school me on this please
Al Poulin
10:31 PM - 16 March, 2014
400-700 people with a few K12s and no subs? I can only imagine it sounded mostly mids and highs as the K12s were into the limiters most of the night if he was trying to push any modern music for that amount of people. Personally, I would say a pair of K12s on stands would handle up to 150 people in a wedding context (if you want things to sound at least somewhat good anyways)
Joee
10:33 PM - 16 March, 2014
he said he uses 3 to 4 k12's 4 k12's is more than enough for 400 people now 700 them thing have to be hanging on for dear life
no law that say you absolutely need subs.....your just not getting the full sound spectrum I.E he not getting bass
no law that say you absolutely need subs.....your just not getting the full sound spectrum I.E he not getting bass
Al Poulin
10:42 PM - 16 March, 2014
That's what I'm guessing. Once you get into the limiters on the Ks, it's usually the woofers running out of excursion - and that's when the mids and highs get louder and the overall sound gets harsher...
DJ Val-BKNY11203
12:50 AM - 17 March, 2014
yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
Which one are you using? I might be in the market and I damn sure don't want the Yorkville beast.
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Aren't you using a RCF sub?yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
Which one are you using? I might be in the market and I damn sure don't want the Yorkville beast.
Joee
12:58 AM - 17 March, 2014
this looks very nice....
yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
Which one are you using? I might be in the market and I damn sure don't want the Yorkville beast.
i'm using two rcf's
imageshack.com
your using the elx 115p's right? i know the elx118p is not the best sub around, but for $600 brand new......
whats your budget for a sub or subs?
this looks very nice....
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Aren't you using a RCF sub?yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
Which one are you using? I might be in the market and I damn sure don't want the Yorkville beast.
i'm using two rcf's
imageshack.com
your using the elx 115p's right? i know the elx118p is not the best sub around, but for $600 brand new......
whats your budget for a sub or subs?
DJ Val-BKNY11203
2:34 AM - 17 March, 2014
this looks very nice....
yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
Which one are you using? I might be in the market and I damn sure don't want the Yorkville beast.
i'm using two rcf's
imageshack.com
your using the elx 115p's right? i know the elx118p is not the best sub around, but for $600 brand new......
whats your budget for a sub or subs?
Which are those?
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this looks very nice....
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Aren't you using a RCF sub?yes i am , but he wants bang for the buck ,rcf cost more
Which one are you using? I might be in the market and I damn sure don't want the Yorkville beast.
i'm using two rcf's
imageshack.com
your using the elx 115p's right? i know the elx118p is not the best sub around, but for $600 brand new......
whats your budget for a sub or subs?
Which are those?
DJ Val-BKNY11203
3:06 AM - 17 March, 2014
Ok. If I decide to buy a sub it will be a 15 for sure. Gotta fit in the trunk of my car. LOL
Ok. If I decide to buy a sub it will be a 15 for sure. Gotta fit in the trunk of my car. LOL
Joee
3:20 AM - 17 March, 2014
that rcf sub can be had for $880 new $780 b-stock shipped.......
i like it i can turn on one in my basement walk up a flight of steps pass my kitchen dinning room & living room, walk up another flight of steps pass my hallway walk into my bedroom
& i will still feel the bass under my feet in the bedroom.....i don't have a big house it's only 1,200 square feet
i like it i can turn on one in my basement walk up a flight of steps pass my kitchen dinning room & living room, walk up another flight of steps pass my hallway walk into my bedroom
& i will still feel the bass under my feet in the bedroom.....i don't have a big house it's only 1,200 square feet
pdidy
3:32 AM - 17 March, 2014
DJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
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I'm still confused. How do he do a wedding of 300 -400 people with 3 k12 and no sub at all. Matrix B52 1000 is good for 250 people max and that has a sub. Joee,Diddy,Gaffle and any other speaker pros please school me on this pleaseDJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
Joee
3:33 AM - 17 March, 2014
more punchy IMO, the elx is a rumble type of bass were the 705 is a hit hard type of bass
there has alway been a lot of bad talk about band pass subs in the dj world .....there known for being one note wonders ......my understanding is it's about getting the most output out of a small enclosure
i have no complaints ......just learn it's limits so you don't blow it
there has alway been a lot of bad talk about band pass subs in the dj world .....there known for being one note wonders ......my understanding is it's about getting the most output out of a small enclosure
i have no complaints ......just learn it's limits so you don't blow it
DJ Val-BKNY11203
3:38 AM - 17 March, 2014
DJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
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I'm still confused. How do he do a wedding of 300 -400 people with 3 k12 and no sub at all. Matrix B52 1000 is good for 250 people max and that has a sub. Joee,Diddy,Gaffle and any other speaker pros please school me on this pleaseDJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
pdidy
3:43 AM - 17 March, 2014
DJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
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I'm still confused. How do he do a wedding of 300 -400 people with 3 k12 and no sub at all. Matrix B52 1000 is good for 250 people max and that has a sub. Joee,Diddy,Gaffle and any other speaker pros please school me on this pleaseDJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
DJ Val-BKNY11203
3:45 AM - 17 March, 2014
I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
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I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
pdidy
3:56 AM - 17 March, 2014
Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
I admit I can be a complete bitch I those instances, The last time I was REQUIRED to turn my subs down, I disconnected them and put them back in the f#@kin truck.......lol
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I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
I admit I can be a complete bitch I those instances, The last time I was REQUIRED to turn my subs down, I disconnected them and put them back in the f#@kin truck.......lol
DJ Val-BKNY11203
3:59 AM - 17 March, 2014
Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
I admit I can be a complete bitch I those instances, The last time I was REQUIRED to turn my subs down, I disconnected them and put them back in the f#@kin truck.......lol
Bwahaha you had Bride Rage.
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I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
I admit I can be a complete bitch I those instances, The last time I was REQUIRED to turn my subs down, I disconnected them and put them back in the f#@kin truck.......lol
Bwahaha you had Bride Rage.
pdidy
4:01 AM - 17 March, 2014
Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
I admit I can be a complete bitch I those instances, The last time I was REQUIRED to turn my subs down, I disconnected them and put them back in the f#@kin truck.......lol
Bwahaha you had Bride Rage.
Half the cure is admitting you have a problem...it true, I do...lol
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I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....
true story...
That was my suggestion but the host of the party did not want to disrupt the guests. No biggie...I turned down the bass.
I admit I can be a complete bitch I those instances, The last time I was REQUIRED to turn my subs down, I disconnected them and put them back in the f#@kin truck.......lol
Bwahaha you had Bride Rage.
Half the cure is admitting you have a problem...it true, I do...lol
Joee
12:13 PM - 17 March, 2014
DJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
with no subs?
true story...
this is the beauty of the zxa1 sub.....not shaking down any room just filling in the sound....you'll probably hate it, but when you do gigs that are not a night club style even your clients will love it
but your new system can be scaled down for small events one vrx918sp along with your two new vrx tops
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I'm still confused. How do he do a wedding of 300 -400 people with 3 k12 and no sub at all. Matrix B52 1000 is good for 250 people max and that has a sub. Joee,Diddy,Gaffle and any other speaker pros please school me on this pleaseDJ GOOK,
While there's no way in hell would this work for me or the type of clientele I play for, I've come realize different regions and especially wedding dj's have a minimalist approach to sound and sound quality at times. Some would be content with just a Bomb box and 1000 people....lol Many of these people are cool with just "Hearing" the music and require little to NO real bass response. So if that's the case, sure 4 k12 will cover 1000 people easily if you follow this minimalistic way of providing sound......
I did a bday party last where the requested I turn the bass down. It was too much for some of the older patrons.
with no subs?
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Last summer I did a gig and the older patrons sitting in front complained that the music was too loud......I had their entire group and tables move to the back of the room.....true story...
this is the beauty of the zxa1 sub.....not shaking down any room just filling in the sound....you'll probably hate it, but when you do gigs that are not a night club style even your clients will love it
but your new system can be scaled down for small events one vrx918sp along with your two new vrx tops
DJ Val-BKNY11203
12:17 PM - 17 March, 2014
I rented one for the day.
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with no subs?I rented one for the day.
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