3hr radio set
Performance = Great
Reliability = felt alot better but had one bpm jump from +6 to +22 and few small glitchs when looking in cartes.
Extras = like the sampler trigger from vci
Sync = Great

I am both pleased, and PISSED!

Performance = Mac has always ran flawlessly, but now PC runs equally so....NICE!
Reliability = Have only tested 2.1 for (3) 2 hour sessions. We'll see...so far, so good ; )
Extras = (Video/Bridge) I could care less...Bridge will be cool, but I can live without it.
Sync = +1 / -1 ..Added Return to Absolute Pitch, Took away what I considered to be Smart Sync
Effects = Same shitty effects, with some odd NS6 behavior to boot.

well i did a test
and guess watt..

still the same,lag drop outs when loading songs to either side...


ahh back to 1.7.1 lmfao...

What type of computer are you using
And the specs of it.

according to his profile....
HP envy 15
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
6GB RAM, 500GB Hard Disk

My Desktop is an:

Self Built - Quadcore i7/Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit)/12GB 1825MHz Ram/Raid SSD array

This configuration used to run like shit on 2.0/2.0.1
Now, w' 2.1 it runs flawlessly (thus far....::keeps fingers crossed::)

I have been testing Itch 2.1 all day and it is working way better than the previous version. There was only one drop out after almost an hour of playing. I restarted my laptop and restarted itch and once again got back to playing with it. I like the new feature of being able to play the sample with my NS7. Hopefully this version will make people happy!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1
Serato can you give us the ability to create our own FX like in SSL? This would be a major + I think.

All it needs now are better effects and of course the ability to do video.

....and 3rd party MIDI Mapping support! Have any of you thought about how they are going to implement Video, or The Bridge without it? Personally, I want to Map the SP-6 to a different controller. While Serato's efforts to make the SP-6 controlled by the NS6 are DEFINITELY worthy of PRAISE, the NS6 (nor any other Itch controller) simply doesn't have enough buttons/sliders/pots to accommodate. The same will be true for Video & The Bridge!

apart of my sync issue, stability wise the beta is getting a 100%...

I doesn't just is more stable... it feels.more stable too... I don't know why

yesterday I had a short test:
Itch 2.1 + vci300 + vfx1 step by step is converting into my personal dreamteam.

in the future I would like to use a PAD ONE (without any program in between)
and better FX

.....but I´m aware of the fact that productdevelopment needs some time.....

used it for 4+hours and didnt experience a single glitch!!! well done serato!!

after trying the correct version of itch 2.1 not 2.0.1 lmfao

its works great.not one drop out after a 20 min test,so farr so good....
Nice work serato....
would love to see a few more things added but for now all is well !!!

been testing it for the past few hours and so far so good. granted 2.0 worked glitch free on my laptop, this beta has just added some extra loveliness for me. 2.0 i didnt even have an interest in the sp6, might have to start using it now

scratch that, one minor glitch, doesnt effect performance but - just added a bunch of ALAC files and in the folder its showing the bit rate as zero

had a couple of music skips in my last gig. :( so no change for me

Please define odd

Another beautiful 5 hour gig with 2.1. Now if those FX were better or at least the ability to create our own like SSL has, life would be grand..

Agreed, this beta looks solid, and like some have said, feels solid, i like those little lines to help with the visual syncing of tracks, i had an issue with Mac OS lion as well, but it hasn't given me any problems, hopefully they will release a full version soon so we can have a stable release come christmas time/gigs ... just a few more effects and maybe videoing an we're good ...

I'm still getting the odd dropout, with no indication as to why, but considering 2.01 could be relied on to crash at least once every gig, this version is a DEFINITE improvement.

been using it for about 1,5 hours now... works great and feels rock solid so far.
the SP-6 setup for twitch is just the way I wanted it to be. only thing that kinda sucks is that sample playback stops when switching to a different sample bank.

to me, the repeater on the faderFX section feels different.. way more accurate when recording slice patterns, but that might just be my impression when using twitch completely sober :p

3 hours of playing and no dropouts. Seems solid for me... :)

it seems to be using more CPU for me..

For the first time after having my Numark NS7FX for almost 2 years, I did a 6 hour Gig running Serato Itch 2.1 Beta. The program was really stable and the sound was really good. Midi Light came on a few time, but I didn't experience any glitch or drop out. Serato team are doing an amazing job fixing the issues with Serato Itch.

Tonight I played with 2.1 beta... flawless.. music from 10pm to 4:30 am without a sound glitch

Only one time I loaded a new song and the screen froze a couple seconds... but then continued without problems... the auio didnt glitch a single time!

very happy with 2.1

Thank you very much for your feedback guys we appreciate it alot.

I'm glad to hear that ITCH 2.1 is performing so well for so many of you. The ITCH team worked extra hard on this one :)

If anyone is having problems specific to 2.1 remember to start a help thread and we can sort you out there.

Had a 6 hours gig yesterday night, rock solid. No dropouts no glitches (it was the case with 2.0.1 for me)

I had some doubt about the hardware triggering of the SP6 (I prefer an extra controller to use it, or open the midi), but I must its works great and it's very simple to control the it ;)

One word : A-W-E-S-O-M-E

You get it on this one SEARTO, good job ;)

No... Thank YOU! :)

played on my vci 300 mk2 using 2.1 beta from 7 pm to 12 a.m. and from 2 30 a.m.to 4 30 a.m. which basically saturday evening into sunday morning with no drop outs no freeze from switching from my sample banks WOW, now i think i,m finally ready to say goodbye to ssl for good and work with my vci for smaller gigs and get a ns7fx for gigs that requires a little more professional look good job itch team.

Happy to say 2.1 is the ish..! But would like to see more setting volumes for sample SP-6 and the effects.... Thats all the itch needs... Loving it tho...

There are definitely new features and workflow refinements I'm looking for in future versions.

But I believe 2.1 to be aimed entirely at improving stability and performance, and I can say it has definitely achieved that.

Tried 2.1 at a gig this past weekend. Flawless, except I noticed when I launched samples on the SP-6, there's a 1 sec lag. Didn't bother to use the new assigned hardware buttons on the VCI-300 MK2 as its too cumbersome. Using the keyboard for SP-6 is the easiest method.

That's weird as samples launch instantly for me when I set them to play from a cue point.

Definitely worth opening a ticket in the beta area for that.

That's what I thought. I'll further test it out and play around with the launch modes to see if I can replicate it. Then submit an open ticket (if not already submitted). I primarily use SSL and the lag has never occurred then.

Are you draging them to the sp-6 from a playing deck?
Do you have the mode under sp-6 to play from cue or play from start?
Play from start will play the 1 or 2 sec dead space on tracks if it's there..


Just a few things that would be a cause...

results from when i got a song playing on deck 1 (Numark V7) @97bpm and the sync light is on, When I add another song to deck 1 and the bpm is about 88bpm. When I hit the sync button on this deck, the song that is playing automatically syncs to 88bpm, so now all of a sudden that song is slow, is that normal? I don't want that to happen, maybe I'm missing something? I have used "shift+sync+sync" and that fixes the current song, but shouldn't the second song I'm cueing in (88bpm) automatically sync up to deck 1? why is the song playing syncing up to the new song that I'm cueing in?

Thanks for the suggestions.

However, I didn't change any settings as my SP6 were all set in SL prior. In SL, SP6 has always loaded fine. Was using SL, the night before I used Itch, and it was working as normal. I'll fire up Itch 2.0 when I'm back home from work and re-test it. I barely use Itch, but I do remember in 2.0, the SP6 worked fine.

Ok, just tried it again on 2.1 beta and its working fine. Must've been just a glitch in the system.

Great. If it comes back start a thread in the beta area, as phatbob suggested.

Fuidawg, I have replied in the other thread you posted in regarding this Sync issue.

How can I become a Beta Tester for 2.1. I love the 2.0 product, would like a chance to check out 2.1. I run the V7 with a DDM4000 Mixer. I am still hanging on to my T57 and CDJ's for video SL. Hopefully I can sell those soon once Itch runs Video.

go here an get it now serato.com

sorry i mean to say add song to deck 2 ...



yup thanks ...

how is that DDM4000 MIXER with the V7'S? I'm thinking of getting the same mixer as well ...

I LOVE IT! I use the on board effects on the mixer because I like the controls better than the ones in Itch. I just use one V7 for the easier portability for club gigs. I have a T57 and CDJ's for my mixtapes and bigger shows where I run Video. I am waiting for Itch to release a Video Option so I can sell my older Gear and but another V7. By far the best product out there.

The history is now working correctly with the V7's... YAAAAAAAY!!!!

Thats AWESOME haven't tried it yet. I had given up on the history LOL!

Nice ... Christmas present here we go .. lol ...

Another 6 hour gig without a problem. Change the headroom from 0 - 6 because the limiter light was going off a little too early but that also could of been because I didn't analyze my files but since I did all is good..



Can you put a request to the team to add the ability to create our own effects like SSL has?
I think this would be a great addition to Itch....

Improved/additional effect functionality for ITCH is something we also would like to have. I can take a note as a feature request though, sure.

Thanks

Hi. I tested 2.1.0.33 for about 1 hour so far so there is not much to say yet.

Well, I'm definitely impressed how well the SP-6 was implemented into the Twitch. But I have to agree it would still be better if at least the sampled was opened for MIDI controllers.

Another thing I liked so far is the behavior of the swipe button. Great to see how another suggestion is making it's way into the next release.

In conclusion I'm happy with it so far. Sure I'm expecting to see the big things like Brige and Video in future versions of ITCH. But with all the problems we had with with 2.0.x everybody has to agree that a minor release with loooots of bug fixes was much more necessary than a major release.

Hear, Hear!

Though despite it's improvement, I wish they woulda' left Sync alone.

am starting to like the sync the way it is now seem to work ok yes pressing it ever time seems long but works

^ Good for you. I disagree.

[quoteThough despite it's improvement, I wish they woulda' left Sync alone.
I don't know if you realized that sync is no different than it was in 2.0 plus they added the option for simple sync like 1.7.1 had. So you get the best of both worlds.. So I'm not really understanding what you mean that they should of left it alone...

I don't know if you realized that sync is no different than it was in 2.0 plus they added the option for simple sync like 1.7.1 had. So you get the best of both worlds.. So I'm not really understanding what you mean that they should of left it alone...
Sorry for the double post..

After what happened last time, I have decided not to argue my points. I will continue to voice my opposition, but I won't beat this dead horse any longer.

Sync sucks now.....Serato understands my argument....that is all!

I'll just have to learn to "deal" with it, as I have with FLAC Support & the Keylock Algorithm ; )

There are some changes in behaviour, jmims. Have a read of a few posts in the beta area.

@DJ KGeeLouisville I am in Louisville as well. When you are ready to sell the CDJs please let me know - I am looking for a pair in the next 6 months to a year.

serato.com/forum/discussion/568205#new

+1

I'm well aware of the changes but to me it's better and more solid. I understand everything is different for everyone but blackavenger said it the best. EX See above..

See above..

You had FLAC support and better Keylock algorithm and they took it away?... NO, is not the same, this is a feature that was present in the software and was removed in a BETA, and we as BETA testers say is wrong to remove it...

I honestly think they got confused with the simple sync behavior complains...

When 2.0 sync went out everybody was saying: "sync is too difficult to turn off, bring back the old 1.7 sync"!

And what serato did:

1.- Made sync easier to turn off
2.- Brought 1.7 sync back...

But the complains for the sync being too difficult to turn off was for users of SIMPLE SYNC... they just wanted (2.-) done...

You are correct on ALL accounts, Selkie! Though, they are not going to change Sync Behavior for just You & Me (& the maybe 5-10 others who have complained).......we have to just deal with it!

However, this does FUCKING irk me:

You gave the Simple Sync'ers what they asked for......You gave us Return to Absolute Pitch....then you gave us a feature (Forced Sync Disengage) that no one even asked for........why?

Never mind........

I'm dealing with it... I can't go back cause the hotcue/flashing swipe bug was 100x worse than this...

anyway, I liked what I got, and they took it away... and no one yet has givven an sceneario when the current way is preferred...

the only scenario where auto turn off is preferred is when you are switchin bpm , and that could easily be fixed if the auto tempo only auto turned off when you load a song with more that 15% (or something) bpm difference is loaded...

I was pissed when I first tried 2.1 and I can understand why some users still are. I've totally got accustomed to it now though and I like it.

It's a good debate to have, makes us all think about how we do things in the heat of the mix.

Just like any new things, sometimes we have to adjust to it, sometimes harder for some than others, but I'm sure down the road we'll get somewhere with all feedback were giving to Serato ... i hope? ;-) ...

not to change the subject, but do we have a eta as to when the full built will be released Serato?

well as I said I have no problem with it when doing normal club mixing... when throwing songs fast one after the other I miss the fun of not having to worry about a button

Fuidawg, we have only seen one public beta build so far, don't be holding your breath.

Anyway, the LAST thing we want is for Serato to rush this one out the door before it's ready.

"LIKE"

true that, no rush of course ... hopefully we ca find more bugs while still in the beta stage, but a much more stable beta in my experience ..

+1,000,000

well its just a beta version, no reason to be pissed. hopefully they can sort it out before it goes final. I never use sync but I can imagine if my work flow had to change because of Itch.

If you want to use Tempo-Locked samples, you have to use Sync. Plus, I use the NS6......having Sync relieves a lot of frustration due to the less than accurate Pitch Resolution. Before I bought the NS6 w' ITCH, I had never used ANY Sync Functionality in the preceding 15(ish) Years of DJing, so all this shit is new to me!

do you have to use smart sync with tempo-locked samples?

if nothing eles, this should have taught everyone the importance of patience. Serato obviously broke under pressure to put out 2.0 before it was really ready for use, and it showed.

In the SP-6, Yes!

Time to upgrade you cpu

so far so good

2.1.0 (35), mac 10.5.8, denon hc5000

- sample player control works
- sync is back to 2.0.x behavior (yay)
- pitch display is correct

but where's the complaint? okay, hehe, would be boring otherwise ^^
when a track is paused or cued the 'LINK' field inside the display of the denon blinks all the time. that didn't happen in 2.0.x. not a biggie but a bit annoying :s

how about lion?? still issues or is it now ok?

i don't use lion but i can give it a try

There were some issues with Lion OS where it freezes upon closing out, the beta seems to fix that, but I see there is another beta? if so that is great ...

serato.com

the beta also fixed an issue i had with the V7 and the Lion OS, i was pulling my hair on this serato.com but looks like the beta fixed that too ...

Thank you Serato ...

Lion is working really good for me so far...

is there another beta download besides 21033? if YES can somebody point me in the right direction?

same thread serato.com

Itch 2.1 Beta is working very good for me. I'm using OS X Lion with a13" Macbook Pro Mid-2010.

Is it me, or is 2.1.035 working wayyy better than 2.0. i feel so good using ITCH even more, it put a lil more spice into my mixes.

No it's working better. Almost close to SSL but defenitely better than any previous version..

"better" as in?

crashing, it happen to me 2 random during two gigs, i wanted to delete a cue point and i press delete and cue point "5'. 2.1 aint crash yet,

2.0 had drops , jus testing 2.1 i aint getting that feel yet,

It is weekend and i will put 2.1 thru the war zone

I had the same issue when deleting cues, serato.com I haven't seen that happen in 2.1 yet ...

correction: that IS the same as with 2.0.x. i didn't notice because it only happens when the display is set to show the pitch value. it doesn't happen when set to show bpm.

Sorry to say that after trying the new version of ITCH_2.1.0_(35)_beta_Mac.dmg with my Numark NS7FX, I encountered some drop out and also I experimented some issue with the loop not staying on when i was on loop mode. I will give it another try tomorrow. I think ITCH_2.1.0_(33)_beta_Mac.dmg was more stable for me. Any way the Serato Itch team are doing a good work. Hopefully tomorrow will be better!

Actually now I think about it, I played out with the 35 beta last night and didn't get a single dropout... Hadn't made it through a gig with 33 without at least a couple.

I will try it again tonight! But there is a lot of improvement on both of the beta.

crashed on me during 2 gigs friday 6 times
i deactivated beat grid,and it worked fine...
????????????
where r the error logs so i cn post?

Scottie b where did you disable the beatgrids on 2.1 I'm trying to find that option on Mac but is not there anymore. I have a thread on the beta section but no answer from Serato.

Btw I'm using the Ns6...since there are options only available for 2 decks.

choose simple sync. thats the new no beatgrids

That's not an option on 4 deck controllers

that's a point

:O

Do you use the beatgrids? you could delete them if you don't

i also noticed that the hifi resampler and the autogain actually have an effect now in the beta 35. in version 2.0.1 those 2 settings only had an effect when using the offline player.

mac 10.5.8, denon hc5000.

It's great to see 2.1 is super stable for a lot of you. I see one or two people are reporting crashes, it's unlikely this is version specific. If you are experiencing any issues you think are 2.1 beta specific please start a thread in the beta area. If you have any other problems please start a normal help thread, and we'll sort you out :)

This will show you where crash reports are kept : serato.com

I'm assuming you are on a Mac (it says in your Profile).

2.1 35 beta is really working good for me but it still seems to use alot of my cpu when using the jog wheels and sometime when looking up and down crates plus every show atleast once i lose contral of my vci with or without AC power and have to restart.

That's not good! I suggest starting a help thread if you haven't already. We can try find out what's happening.

since you mentioned cpu. i noticed a decrease.
2.0.1 was at around 15% (of one core) and 2.1.0 beta 35 is around 10%. not that it would matter to me, i just thought i could mention it.

so we are clear what i mean (the cpu level at the top left of itch)
before it would never go past 50% no matter how hard i try, from 2.0 its always hi

ok i will start a thread to see what we can find

Had a 6 hours gig on Saturday with 2.1 (Build 35)
reaaaaaaaaaaallly Nice!!!

I went back to itch 2.1 (Build 33 ) I was having problem with the build 35.

could you be more specific?

here is a thread with the issue am having.
serato.com

Yeah, I am curious myself.......(35) feels like a Release Candidate to me.

I'm having problem with loop and also simple sync. I'm using Numark NS7.

what problems exactly?

When I selected a loop the loop will deactivate even with the loop bottom on.

dj lashes, can you start your own help thread? your issue does sound similar to the user in that thread but it makes it easier for us if we deal with each person individually :)

well i decided to give it a go , only played around for 30 mins or so but was trying to make it crash and glitch by having multpile things running (wifi,antivirus,antispyware,browser opened up on multiple tabs etc) i was constantly loading songs playing with the platters loading effects up and i was pleasantly surprised ,
i did think i was having a random problem of songs starting from half way through once they had been loaded but then figured out the mrs had been setting the cue point up half way through the songs when she was having a play last time so i boldy told her NO! NO! NO!

yet to give it a proper workout tho but i do like the way sync works now , i have never really used it in prev versions due to it not being right but it seems like it can work well now who knows i may start using it again

now all you need to do serato is sort them effects out and get them working better and were all sorted!

AMEN TO THAT!!!

+1 million

My guess is 2.2 will add effects. They needed this maintenance release to sort out the major (across the board) bugs that peeps were having. The next release will add goodies....haha! Whereby, they will introduce a whole slew of problems all over again, needing a subsequent 2.3 to get that sorted...LOL!

Maybe WinterNAMM will "show" some of the additions that we will get to play with by early spring?

I've had a couple music skips since using (35), gonna start a help ticket if I cant sort things out. I've been running wifi and that maybe the issue.

But even with little problems, this update is the best at least for me. We need to understand that nothing is perfect in life. If we all work together by giving our opinion and helping with the forum, Itch will get better and better!

lol I'm just a customer I bought this expecting it to work with no issues. its up to Serato to get their shit straight and keep it straight

Ok!

This is the 2.1 beta. If you d/l it that means you agreed to be a tester not a customer. ;-)

Logic!

100% true!!!!!!

I still think that Itch 2.1 (33) work better with the Numark NS7 than version (35). With Itch (35) I was having problem when syncing two track. For example if you try to sync a track that has 150 BPM with A track with 80 BPM the track will accelerate and sound funny. With Itch 2.1 (33) the tracks will sync perfectly without problem.

That's because the latest built reverted to the old behavior which is less intuitive.

Itch 2.1 (33) is my best for now.

just so u guys know, beta 38 just released.

Where can I get it?

seriously?

I don't find it? That is why I'm asking!

Ok! I found it and thanks for your help!

Sorry, that was a dick move...shoulda' just pointed you in the direction of it. If anyone else is confused as to where it is - serato.com

Don't worry! I will try this new beta. Hopefully is getting better

Yup. They fixed the bug you were referring to, it was a bug indeed.

Do you know if Beta 38's sync reverted back to how it was in Beta 33? I have to agree with Dj jochi. I see a difference in Beta 35 and haven't had a chance to test 38 yet.

Yes! They Fixed the bug wtih the sync. Also now is using less CPU on my computer. Tonight I start a new Place and I will try it.

Do you mean it is like it was in Beta 33?

Yes! The problem I had with 35 was that when you where to sync a track that has 160 BPM with a track with 86 or 80 BPM, the track will double thier BPM and sound like a chip Mouse!

Again I'm using the nuamrk ns7. everybody don't have the same problem!

tried 2.1 and didn't have any crashes yet. seems to be more stable as the previous versions :-)

thats even funnier because I'm still a customer that might buy another product or not from serato. This beta testing does not make me apart of Serato dev team. I do give my bugs and feed back but they still have to get it right.

Your issue sounds like one of the bugs that is fixed with the new beta build ITCH_2.1.0_(38)


Changes since 21035:
.
* Fixed several bugs where playing a track with sync could keep doubling the track's pitch.

I was testing it now and I did not encounter the problem I had wtih (35). I will try it for a couple of our tonight!

Your issue sounds like one of the bugs that is fixed with the new beta build ITCH_2.1.0_(38)

Changes since 21035:
.
* Fixed several bugs where playing a track with sync could keep doubling the track's pitch.
I was testing it now and I did not encounter the problem I had wtih (35). I will try it for a couple of our tonight!

Oh, good keep us posted, I haven't tried the new beta yet (at work) but that sounds promising.

beta 38 working flawless for me but i didn't have issues before either

mac 10.5.8, 2.1.0 b38, denon hc5000

38 beta feels and performs really good... Big test tomorrow @ The Amway Center in Orlando.

Will test 38 beta at home tonight, then a christmas gig/dance tomorrow, will report on results

I'm testing it tonight!

Whats going on at the Amway? I live in Orlando

38 had scratch performance issues. It distorts the music and lose track on fast scrathing. tested 4 hours at my happy hour gig today.

what is that "lose track"?

It distort the music like this? Watchwww.youtube.com

Private company rented the arena for a big event... U know they got big $$ to do this.

sticker drift,

Just messed with 2.1 beta 38 and in simple sync mode as I was mixing one track with sync locked all of a sudden the tracked jumped to a high BPM sounding super fast... I thought this was fixed in this version? It only did it once and thought it was weird...

It happened to me But the opposite. The track was super slow.

Yeah either way that aint right.... I put up a bug report.

^ damn, I've not had any issues w' Sync at all. ^

Which controllers are Y'all using....just curious.

I'm using the Numark NS7. I don't have any Problem with Itch Beta (33), But with Itch Beta ( 35), And ( 38 ) I had problem. I guess Itch Beta ( 33) is more stable for me.

I have the NS7 also and haven't seen that problem with the BPM's jumping or slowing down and I'm using Beta 38. Two suggestions I have
1: Reanalyze those files with Beta 38
2: Recalibrate your NS7
Part 1.. www.google.com
Part 2.. www.google.com
(Not me in video but I use this to recalibrate my NS7)
If this doesn't work Bug report it.

Lol @not me, good was gonna say you gots a high voice hahaha, k just kidding ;-) ... I'm wondering if the V7's need recalibration? I have not heard or aware of it. I was messing around this morning with them on Beta 38 and it was ok, though It was just for 2 hrs, got a gig tonight so I'll give it a go, got my second laptop with vdj on standby incase i have issues with the beta ...

Ok, I just saw the other Video and someone asked the same question if the V7 needed Calibration and looks it might not need, checking the manual ..

Yes. the V7's need recalibration also. Not sure if this will fix your problem but it's worth a try and does usually fix issues like what your having. Here is the manual if you need it. Look at page 38 for recalibration of NS7 or V7 www.serato.com

Thanks ....

I did the calibration and I did not encounter any problem with Itch beta (38). I play for 6 hours. I will give it another try today. The Only bad thing is having to re-scan all the music.

Yeah I just hate re-scaning until the FINAL is released because a new beta could just come out tomorrow lol...

So finally tested beta 38 today at a 6 hour gig, 4 hrs in and it dropped out on my musik, all of a sudden there was a lag, and when I stopped the music my v7 players were still spinning when the music stopped

Also I notice that when I have the pitch fader on my V7 right on the middle the led is not on the center but like on the far left etc, should that be like in the middle when the fader is on the center?

Shut down Itch, then restarted it and it was working fine after that but I had an hour left that wasn't sure how long it would have lasted.

38 has some issues. The lag all of a sudden was not good

Did you do the recalibration?

I have not, I never had the issue before until last night, so I'm hearing that you have to rescan all your files again? which means if another build come s out again , I may need to do that again?

I haven't done it yet ..

the only problems ive been having is my loops have been dropping out every so often :/ apart from that its running good

I dont understand why ppl use BETA's on gigs... Like they dont care if it crashes and fucks up their set in some way? lol

some had final version crash on them, so using a Better version even if it is a beta, is ok for them.

I would use the latest better after i tested it, in my opinion 1.5 and 2.1 are most stable than all the others

When the released version crashes at least once every gig, and you are confident that your data is backed up safe, using a beta is no extra risk at all...

hes got a point, it couldnt get any worse than it already was. now in ssl, there are def some solid backup versions, and i guess in itch its 1.71, but i never used itch back then and dont really like the gui.

I did use it and I'd be hard pressed to go back to 1.7.1 now.

I was testing this weekend 5 hours at home and 5 hours in a small latin party:
no issues; 2.1 seems to be stable

What better way to test beta than putting it to the real thing? Sometimes just playing for how many hours at home or whatever in my opinion is just not enough .. gotta expect the unexpected ... also you should always have the iPod cued and ready at all times I case your system crashes, in my case I have a second laptop with virtual dj hooked to on to one my channels with an audio cable

+1

Serato had done s great job!I have been testing the latest beta version for many hours.No issues and very stable.Great software.
Thank you Serato!!

Sorry for the typos I was typing from a tablet #painful ... Also I forgot to mention, I did pull the usb cable from my mac, before turning it off and I had to do a force quit to stop Itch ... should that be normal?

No, that's not normal. I have tested it several times by unplugging/plugging in the USB cable several times within a session to see if it would crash, hang, or lockup ITCH. Each time it worked without fail. I would try to reproduce the affect, and if need be, open a help topic.

Ok, i've duplicated it multiple times now, when i unplug the usb cable, when my V7's are powered on the that lollipop looking wheel lol, on my mac just spins, if i try to hookup the usb cable again it does nothing i have to force quit it to kill Itch (38), (Mac Pro OS Lion, 4gs 2.7mhz, Early March)

opening a help tkt now, and pray for a quick response.. ;-)

Good Luck....I too have a Mac and despite how many times I've tried to duplicate this for you, I cannot. My machine never exhibits this behavior.

Then again, I don't have V7s, I have an NS6. So perhaps that is where the issue lies? I don't know....they'll get you sorted out.

Are you running Lion? Thought someone said in one of the discussions that its still an issue with Lion ..

I'm running lion on my Macbook pro and I think I'm doing better after I installed Lion.

oh really ...

Yes! Before I couldn't get Itch to work with my NS7, after I installed Lion everything is working good.

hmmm .... well, if any one has any suggestions, i got an open tkt right now, this thread has the fastest response ...

what happens if you close itch first ?

Closes fine when i shut down it first, I was just testing it for the 'what if' i pull the usb by accident etc ... tried it a few times too ...

Hey guys,

This hang when unplugging the ITCH hardware is a known issue with Lion which we are working on resolving. It shouldn't affect all Lion users, but for those that it does affect you will need to close ITCH before disconnecting your hardware.

Oh there you go then, Thanks Logan for the response, I'll monitor the other tkt for now for an update. Do you think it's hardware related? or software?

crashed on me again.

Did you get a crash report? If you haven't already start a help thread and let us know all your details and we'll sort you out. Upload the crash report too if possible (see here : serato.com)


Not sure. It's how they interact so I guess both ;)

meh, i'll just keep dl'ing newer releases. i really can't believe i got suckered into this little experiment for 500$. oh well, twitch and itch are fun when they do work.

Not sure what you mean by 'experiment'. But like I said if you are having problems let us help you, I'm sure we can get it sorted.

Beta 40 is out guys.

My major Issue is sticker drift. its getting to a point where I'm not sure I want to use it anymore.

Where is beta 40? I don't see it.

serato.com

Some of Y'all seriously need to learn how to navigate this site.

I asked nicely, there is no need for you to writte this!

Actually, I feel justified in my statement. Y'all can mix digitally, but can't navigate a website? This is no new occurrence....it's been happening for years. I find it difficult to believe that some peeps on this message-board have never been to the root levels of their particular areas of interest.

This is the forum - serato.com

When on this page, you can clearly see the large "R" at the top of the ScratchLIVE & ITCH Discussion sections. These large bold "R"s represent where you will find the Public Betas.

Perhaps you cannot see the "R"s because the different areas are collapsed. Simply click on the little arrows to "expand" that area's unique content.

Currently for ScratchLIVE 2.3 discussion & download- serato.com
The same for ITCH 2.1 (?) Discussion & download - serato.com

Ok! Thanks for the helped.

Oh just saw the post on the new beta (40) .. just wanted to report that I just had a successful 4 hour gig with (38), unlike my last gig last week, this one was more smooth, no hiccups or anything, there was one time I thought something was wrong but forgot I had hit the flanger effect by accident (DDM 4000) lol ...

Other than that will try the (40) beta ...

One problem I noticed a couple of times is the FX sync... that's the only issue I'm having right now. If a track is pitched, synced effects like repeater or delay seem to use the original BPM for syncing, not the pitched value... whatever is used, it's just not right.
Or is there any workaround/setting I don't know about?!

I tried Itch Beta (40) yesterday for about 5 hours. It was working really stable without any hiccups. Itch Beta (38) was also very stable for me. Hopefully everybody else is as happy as I am with the progress. I will try Beta 40 again tonight.

Any issues on beta 40?

I think is really stable. The only thing I did was to rescan the music for BPM. I deleted Beta (38) completely.

Is it necessary to rescan the files with the coming update?
I already did this with beatgrids after installing 2.01.
Did they change the tags?

None of my tags were change!

man, i hope we don't need to rescan these files, i haven't with the previous beta codes (35) (38)

I being rasping with every update. Is a pain but it is good to do it.

I was thinking maybe when the full release comes out then rescan everything?

I don't recommend rescanning all your ID3 tags (or re-analyzing your files) with a beta version. I suggest waiting until the official release build before doing this.

but if you rescan you lose your grids :(

Hey selkie,

You shouldn't lose your Beat Grids if you re-scan your ID3 tags. If that's happening let me know.

If you meant you lose them when you re-analyze your files, you just need to turn off 'Set Beatgrid' and 'Set Auto BPM' before you analyze them and they won't reset :)

I meant reanalizyng, sorry.

I just remembered, happened only once, during my gig above with beta (38) and simple sync on, song on Deck A (V7) playing at 80 bpm, when I loaded a second song to mix in on Deck B, when I hit the sync button, the current song on Deck A slowed down to match the bpm on the new song. Why?

LUCKILY I just hit Shift + Sync on DecK A and the song changed back to it's original bpm. Has anyone experienced that before?

cool i was always thinking that if you analyze your lose your grids ect... nice to know thanks Logan D

Yes happen to me a few times but was not so lucky with the "hit Shift + Sync" i had to turn on sync and load again or keep speeding it up till it back at the right speed.

Also don't forget you can lock your tracks guys! If you are happy with a tracks' Beat Grid then lock it by pressing Command/Control + Clicking on the status icon of the track in the library. This will display a green lock to show the Beat Grid can't be edited/deleted until it is unlocked. This way you can analyze your tracks without having to remember to have these two options turned off.

cool....does that work for BPM also ?

last time.I checked I couldnt analyze locked files :S

Woops you're right sorry forget this last bit : This way you can analyze your tracks without having to remember to have these two options turned off.


If you lock a track, you won't be able to change it's BPM. Otherwise just make sure that 'Set Auto BPM' is turned off if you don't want the BPM to be effected during analysis. Similarly with Beat Grids - make sure both 'Set Beatgrid' and 'Set Auto BPM' are turned off if you don't want these effected during analysis.

does re-analyzing track with those two options turned off affects the time a track takes to analyze?

It shouldn't do.

you would think it would be faster sounds like it has less work to do????

Wait so those beta testing the 2.1 can you verify that there is indeed the bridge in it?

Tested the beta a lot now. Seems to be stable.
Cool is the new centered waveform which is like SSL but a little bit smaller. Fortunately, with the ssl-like beat match. Which I missed in 2.0 and made the centered waveform useless.
But anyway, there should be the possibility to decrease the height of the browser.
Because I think the waveforms are for controller djs much more important than for vinyl or cd using djs with ssl.
But good work with the itch beta!

It would be nice to have the counter/time remaining inside that, so it will show both much how time is remaining for the track so i don't have to 'click' on the timer to see how much time you've played the track and how much remaining ....

You're right, but I'm so used to the overview with the minute markers.
That I see it immediately.

AMEN!

Hello
The new Version is better
No Briged ok but is it possible to send a IAC Signal for Midi Clock ??

You are 100% right. This version is better and more stable! I did a gig last Saturday without any problem!

+1

+1

to any NS6 user's has the new itch version 2.1 fixed this = when using the NS6, could you hide decks 3 and 4 if your not going to use them at all ? i currently DJ with the NS7 and im trying to lighten my load. since i only do mobile DJing. but i dont want to rush out & buy the NS6 if im gonna be stuck in the same boat as current NS6 users.

Asking questions in one thread is sufficient.....no need to litter the whole board with the same query....cool? Now to answer your question....again....... the feature you are asking for has not been implemented yet.

thanx

Somebody please tell me they finally fixed the echo effect back to what it was in 1.7.1??

I believe they will make the effects like SSL where you can customize the simple effects to however you like....

Another Note I finally got a chance to test Beta 4.0 and it's solid..... I did 4, 4hrs gigs in 2 days without an issue. I did notice on one track, it played like I had the start Knob turned to 100 and it was set to zero but it didn't occur again but other than that it's very good.....

Serato, Add the option like SSL to create our own effects and we are gold...

i think and hope they will once they get itch nice and stable which they seem to have been doing with the new beta.
Keep up the good work serato!

Itch 2.1 (40) is really stable. Last night gig was a success, and really think Serato did a great job in this version.

I had a 4 hour gig last night with no problems the only thing I noticed that the volume level doesn't fade like the way it used to it just cuts.....I mix with volume faders most of the time.

I noticed that too!

Which Hardware do you use?

I used the Numark NS7FX!

I'll give it a try tonight with a vci 300 mk2.
I didn't notice it at all. But I'll report the result.

VCI-300

vci 300 mk2 beta version 2.1 40 no problem so for did a few gigs and it is holding up verry well

Just dis a 4 h Gig with vci 300 mk2 and the beta 40. No problems at all. Line faders are ok

I have the VCI-300MK1 is it the Driver installer that I have problems with the Volume Faders.

Do you use windows or Mac?
I'm using Mac.

I'm using Windows

i'm using a Macbook pro!

So it's not just me this is definitely a bug. I will try to re install it maybe you could do that to So we can address this problem if it still exist.

Now I went back to V2 same thing Volume faders are not functioning right From High to Low.....

I don't know what the hell is happening everything is ok except for that.

I'm thinking is it the hardware maybe.

I think this, too
Cause I have no problems at all.
But did you try to put the adjustment knob in the middle?
Because this is very confusing.
If the knob is on the one side the faders only react near the end of the line faders and the other way round. Only in the middle of the adjustment is it a linear curve.

Did you try to ajust the fader course in itch setup ?

I don't have one in the itch setup. I ment the knob on my vci 300.

I think in the setup on the mixer tab there should be an adjustment for the volume faders they did it with the crossfader...I did nothing happen.......Man this is annoying

Now my volume fader acts as an on and off for music being played.....lol

bro you need a new fader or for a sort term fix try getting a cotton bug in there and clean it

I'll try it Man and if it doesn't work It is a future request.

New years eve 8 hour gig without any problems or sound drops.
Simple sync works very well now.
Sampler hot cues work perfectly simple.
Good work. Thanks serato.
The beta seems to be more stable than the previous official releases.
I used the 40 beta with MacBook.

Yeah, I've given up using 2.0.1.......I'm exclusively w' 2.1 (BETA 40) now. It's super stable on my MBP...still having a couple issues w' my Desktop PC though. But since the Mac is what I use the majority of the time, I'm all good now. GREAT WORK, SERATO!!!

Working ok the only problem, I'm having to turn my buffer size to 10ms and my headroom to 18db. to stop dropouts. therefore having to compensate by turning my amps higher. But other wise good to go...

Just did a test of it there, seems really beautifully fluid to use which is great, have to say I will be loading 1.7.1 back on to my system though as the issue with the FX being diminished (Namely the Echo effect) has not been address despite being raised by quite a few people as far back as the beta testing for 2.0.

Don't want to be one of the complainer's here, but for what I use Itch for personally, the Echo effect is an important feature for me and sad to say its far superior in the older version of itch... gutted as I'm itching to start using this update and new layout and was hoping 2.1 was gonna be my chance... maybe in 2.2 if the serato team feel this matter is something to be addressed rather than ignored?

Apart from that the update seems really sturdy and I'm sure it will be a winner in general.

My guess is now that the bugs are nearly out of the way, the next release will be Effects centered! If not, I fear that ITCH will go the way of the dodo!

This is a major flaw w' ITCH, but I'm sure they are well aware of that

I agree i would say the Effects and the so called release of The Bridge. If its not implemented i see this program at the bottom of the barrel, What a shame that such a nice program cannot have the same results as its big brother SSL, even the shitty Virtual Dj and Deckadance support midi mapping and plugins.... Just saying.

Well I'm really thinking about buying the TTM 57 Sl with two cdjs 900.

Had a successful gig over the New Years with Itch 2.1 (40) just wanted to report on that, I see discussions about effects as well which will be nice to be included in future releases, man i just need a backspin and flip double effects lol, i know you can manually do it, but be nice to have as part of the software

One thing i notice is that if you are in a crate like way at the bottom, when you do a CTRL + F to search for a song it takes you out of that crate, so to go back you have to search for the crate again, I don't remember if that is normal, but i just notice it's a pain, loosing you place in your current crate, it should remember where you were before you do a search, and take you back once you clear the keyword/song in the search field ...

Love the look and initial "feel" of 2.140 but I am still having occasional drop outs. It usually happens after about an hour. It might be my older 13" macbook with 4g ram (nothing on it not used for anything else and firewire ext drive too) maybe the new software needs me to get another $2500.00 for a new laptop (are you kidding me?)

My question is:

if i move the midi (forgot the real name) setting to 5 (currently using 2) will affect how tight my scratches and platter response will be?

Are you f-ing kidding?



wow! yeah, THIS! I hate it!



I have a Dell Inspiron 1420, 2GHz, 2GB ram, 160GB HD... and I don't have drops... I do have a strange bug that put a song slower, but It only happen when usingn the super filter...



yes, it will take 5ms instead of 2ms to process the audio... try it andn see if it bothers you

No i'm not kidding, just some effects that'll be good to have

You use v7's and you want a backspin FX? sorry it just doesn't makes any sense for me

ok, i see your point, yes I guess I got lazy when i asked for that feature lol ... :-)

This is how it has always worked, this isn't new in 2.1. After you have searched/loaded for a track via CTRL F, when you go back into the crate you were in, it will take you back to the same position you were just in.

Happy new year Logan!

The problem is that when you go out of the ctrl+f search, ITCH don't remember in nwhat part of the catalog you were before doing the search, so when you scroll trough the library you start from the beginning again! is really a pain in the ... in long lists (I usually have all my current song in one big list)

Happy New Years to you too mate :)


But if you click back on the crate you were in (after using CTRL F) then yes it should take you right back to where you were in that crate. Is it not doing this for you? Or am I misunderstanding?

If you go back to the crate, then Itch does remember where u were in the crate, but you have to remember the crate. When you have a lot of crates and they are not in alphabetical order, this is a bit annoying. It was always like that, but would be nice if after you clear the search field, Itch would just remember the crate as well as the crate position. And yeah I have tried deleting the Neworder.pref file to put crates in alphabetical order, but this does not work for me.

Yeah, how I'm supossed to get out the search box without it forgetting where I was?

If I click the X the list start for the begining again... if I press "esc" the list go back to the beginning...

The way I use it I load the track with the controller, I push the encoder to move between crates, I move up and down to get back to the crate I was (the All... crate) push the encoder again (at this point the highlighted song is correct, is where I was BEFORE the search) then if I turn the encoder boom, I'm back at the beggining of the list again :(

Yeah, for me I can have a song at the top of the crates catalog or list that i want to load but before that I have a quick sample I want to load quickly to scratch so I either scroll all the way down to load it, if I control F it it takes me out other crate so that song I was going to load ill have to search for it again because I'm now in the sample crate to load that sample I'm trying scratch, it'll sure be nice to take you back to the crate that you're in after you do a ctrl F to load a quick song ...

Have you tried adjusting the line fader curve control on the front of the unit?

Well off topic from above me. I found 2.1 to be bpm friendly with my V7s. Before constant nudge , and just over all hard time getting bpm measures to stay.

All in all I have yet to use my sp6 nor any of the hot cues. Coming from vinyl I guess I'm just old skool 2 deck mixed tweaked and having fun.

So far 2.1 has made tempo adjustments I suppose better. Locking onto exact bond seems easier on the pitch faders.

Nope I don't sync it just didn't seem accurate for me.

I tried cleaning it with a contact cleaner must be the dust.....Yeah Zeb I tried the the Line curve adjustment......Now it's like new again....

Yes, it takes you back to where you were in the crate ...

but I think it will be waaay better if it takes you back to that crate (highlighted) that you were in before you did your search ,rather than to the song again, because you'll have to scroll down looking for that crate again, and if it's another crate then you'll have to expand it etc. So after doing a Ctrl + F, you hit the x button to clear the search keyword, and you are back to where you started.

usually when i do a Ctrl +F I'm searching for a sample to scratch etc ...

so was it the line curve or the cleaning

how do you turn off beat grinds in the new itch 2.1 build 40 and some of my loops start away from the set cue point...what cause this. never used to happen in the orignal itch 2.1

an addition to the above am using numark ns6....i realised that when the beat grinds are off it wont really happen but when they are on it happens

that happen when not using sync?

Hey dj regnick,

You might like to start a help thread so we can ask you a few questions, I'm sure it's nothing major :)

yes happens when am even not in sync

how come every one is having problems with this beta yet t works perfectly fine with me set up?

MBP = Perfect
Win7PC = Not so much

At least that's my experience.

Im running windows 7 on a vaio runs perfect.

^ good ^

great good itch 2.1 is dope.

i also have a dell lappy with windows 7 (64bit) no probs here either ?

For those of us with lots of crates, this feature is pointless if it doesn't take you back to the original crate. I have always hated this. Not to mention having a way to expand/contract all crates at once. Again, this is for cats with a lot of crates...

Yes I agree that this would be handy for users who have a large number of crates.

But how exactly would you have it work? Remember that after you have searched something, your next step is generally to load this track either by using your mouse/keyboard/controller.
So you are shifting the view focus from the search box to the search results. Now you have to go back to the search box and clear it, and then it would take you back to exactly where you were prior to the search. Is that how you would have it work? Hope that makes sense!

Makes perfect sense. After loading the track that was searched for, we wanna clear the search box and it just takes us back to the exact crate and position we were before the search.

Damn, that would be sooo dope!

how about ctrl+f search and ctrl+f+f (as in hold ctrl and press f twice) to return to the last crate/location before search???

Sounds good to me Dj Ricky Redz...Logan D can you make that happen?

How bout bridge for itch huh? when is that going to happen or is it really that hard to do

Or something simple like just hitting the x from your search and you're back to your crate again without having to do another Ctrl whatever to get out. Kinda like in Virtual dj, you just click on the search field and type a song and it instantly looks at your whole library etc ...

Yeah something like this would be cool. I know it's been bought up before and I don't doubt one day something like this will be implemented to make it easier to jump back to the crate. Don't ask me when though I was just curious as to how you guys would have it work :P

would it not be better to go to the crate of the song just loaded as more then likely your next track will be from that crate if you have taken the time to put your songs are in order something like this...

ctrl+f, search song, loaded song, back to the search box and clear, go to the crate from song just loaded.

Hey,

When browsing throw album names, before you were able to hit a letter like A or B and it would should titles beginning with that letter. It does not work in 2.1 anyone else notice this?

coming back from ctrl+f is not working, it's a 100% reproducible bug

1.- ctrl+f
2.- search for something
3.- load the song
4.- press esc
5.- the list now is back to where it was on the beginning, all good till now
6.- if you scroll with the scroll wheel on the Twitch the list go all the way to the beginning

a workaround for number 6.- is to click in some song on the list and then scroll again with the controller...

please note this and more important, FIX IT, thanks!

With the keyboard or TWITCH?


If I follow these steps exactly pressing ESC will attempt to close the program because I am no longer in the search box after I load the song.

I know the bug you are referring to here, It's to do with the controller scroll position not starting from the highlighted track - but from the start instead. I just can't reproduce it with those exact steps. Are you sure you didn't miss a step? I'll log it as a bug as soon as I can reproduce it :)

with twitch



did you start the searh with ctrl+f? I will re do the steps today because now that you mention it if the search box is not in focus (with the yellow border) if you press esc it attemp to close Itch...

Why can't Serato fix the keylock issues that are so blatantly awful in Itch ?
I'm like why bother with an update until you fix one of the most important things.

Thats why im ditching serato and going with traktor and selling my ns6, I dont know if any one is noticing but its blatantly obvious that they like to answer some questions and REALLY LIKE TO DUCK OTHER QUESTIONS!!!!!!

Because serato.com/pitchntime

Why can't we fix the keylock issues? Keylock isn't broken - it works quite adequately for most people. Do we want to improve our keylock algorithm? Yes ofcourse we do. And we will. It is on the list. We can't do everything at once remember guys ;)

Thanks logan, Take ur all time, dont want to mess up wat is work good for most of us.

a dj friend of mine seen my ns6 now he wants one ... how much do u want to sell it for??

i

I paid $1000 for it used it twice and put it right back in the box, ill take $800 for it

dont mind lpc, he's always claiming he's switching teams. he's not leaving.

Lol no im really out this time pdidy im going to get some turn tables and forget about dj controllers and get traktor scratch pro :)

So your switching from one medium of controllerism to another.
:P
Just think about it: Unless you're going straight Vinyl or CD (or Tape-Decks for the bolder ones here) with no software go-between, you're using a controller.

Yea you right now that i do think about it i guess i am! But honestly the ns6 is awesome but just not for me and serato is good to but just not for me especially that i think they are behind on alot of stuff they claim we would be having but thats just my opinion.

That's some badass testing right there

Tell me about it

I feel plc's general frustrations. Listening to sets I made on vinyl or SSL from a few years ago make me wonder how long it has to take for the ITCH software to come into a complete realization or if it's even on the menu.

Yes I love the controller backpackability and things like beatsync but It's become painfully obvious that ITCH is never going to be what ScratchLive box SL1 can do for whatever reason, nevermind effects that can't hold up to a standard set a decade ago... Maybe it's conflicting obligations... I would love to use my ScratchLive setup except basically clubs don't maintain their 1200s any more.

DJs that have been doing this for some time now know that there was no keylock, beatsync, one RCA setup etc. that things like pitch resolution, fader curve, and platter control where the deciding factors that Vestax would be gunning the next Itch masterpiece instead of being the next midi monstrosity that doesn't meet basic needs. If Rane only knew how to build deck control like that, but they weren't the company that stood up to Technics on that.

^edit:

DJs that have been doing this for some time now know that IF there was no keylock,

PS. Love ITCH... but what is art without criticism.

Just sharing the notion/fear that some things aren't on the way or soon enough. Understood that making software for controllers is more thorough than for a DVS setup...

Technology begets impatience.

I don't get your criticism... you only say that ITCH is inferior without giving any examples... unless you feel that pitch resolution, fader curve and platter control are an issue in ITCH?

That's a device issue, not a software issue in my opinion. The NS7 vs the NS6 proved that to me.

^^ my bad. No, not a device issue, I am talking software. Here are the main 3 things I've liked better about mixing with ScratchLive:

• effects (no explanation required)
• the GUI (with respect to lining up the waveforms in proper vertical fashion)
• consistent volume at high velocity (ex: backspining, which I tend to do a lot)

Might be small things to others depending on your mixing style... Unlike some I've been happy with ITCH's stability and usability. The pitch resolution, etc. is awesome. I just wish I could use my SL1 with my VCI-300 for the above reasons and I hope the software is going to iron out some of those very subtle details at some point.

Do you really do backspins, still? That's cute!

it's not what you do it's how you do it...

scratch DJs have the same problem because doing lasers is twice as loud as it should be

PS. here's some cute mixes for you and yours

soundcloud.com

The same problem exists in Scratch Live though, surely? It's always been there for me.

I used to love a good backspin. Round here though, people just assume when they hear a backspin now that you've screwed up the mix and can't find a better way out of it... ;-)

lol... yeah it can be used for that too

there's been a few threads about the velocity/volume issue, it's just that only a handful of people on here seem to notice or care...

Regarding this, in my opinion Pioneer CDJs are the best at keeping the volume in control at high speed, followed by SSL or vinyl (depending on your stylus), and lastly by ITCH which makes for some ear bleeding times when the crowd gets a rewind. The workaround is balls...

Surely the workaround when backspinning is 'bring the fader down a bit'? No good for scratching but works for backspins, surely?

Checked out your soundcloud BTW. Some nice vibes, skipping through. Have bookmarked for later!

Cheers :)

Yeah, I'm a bit of a sound nazi though for levels... Dipping the line fader to a precise 60%, a split second after the last kick drum while adjusting or engaging effects... Don't need the extra step.

Hey! Nothing wrong with a good ol' backspin!

DJ CAPRO,

We have actually had a couple reports before about the VCI-300 being particular loud when you backspin, in fact I think I have even logged this as a bug. It does seem comparatively loud when you compare the playing volume to the backspin volume. For now if it's annoying just bring the fader down a tad before you do it, as phatbob said. But this is something we will be looking at in the future, can't be sure when but it has been noted.

Hey Logan - So long as you have it logged to fix in the near future I am content with the workaround for the time being. I was under the impression that it was too small a detail to bother with. Thanks for the response.

Damn right, haha!

yeah if done the right way its a good EFX a nice easy volume fade down as you spin back so sweet lol

But it's been a request for years now.......can't deny that, Logan. Y'all have straight ignored it to add more and more "flashy" to get the new kiddies hooked in. I understand why, but don't act as if it's not a big deal, 'cause it is. Same goes for FLAC!

Boom thats what im talking about

Yeah definitely, it has been on the list for a while! But we have to prioritize things accordingly. Like I said for a lot of people keylock works great. For me personally the only way I can hear any real audio degradation with our keylock is to either be playing a track of low quality or be pitching a track significantly high or low. For some people it's more obvious. Either way we want to improve it, no arguments there.

It's good to be vocal (in a nice way) about what you think is needed because we do read everything on the forum and it's all taken into account. If I can I'll try push this for you guys.

I appreciate it, and hope you recognized that I was being forward, but respectful with my comment ;)