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When will Serato and Inklen finally work through the issues

djpuma_gemini 2:27 PM - 16 May, 2012
Ok,
It's been a while now since we've seen on of these thread so here goes.

I've been patiently waiting for some sort of fix for ME to work with 2.4 or any new rane mixer without a workaround and there still isn't one.

I've seen many posts about how bad serato video is and I don't want to be forced to use it if I get a 62. Yes I would be forced if I got a 62. I feel bad for the guys who jumped the gun right away and are now stuck with a 62 and have to use a workaround to get their new mixers to work with ME

Please Serato continue talks with Inklen and maybe give a little and stop saying it's not about the money or controlling factor cause if it wasn't we'd already have a ME 2.1 with SSL 2.4 support.
DJ'Que 3:32 PM - 16 May, 2012
yeah what's crazy is i see all these SV post on how bad it is and problems and i'm like i must be the lucky one.

I don't have them like

crashes (knock on wood)

freezes

disappearing screen

and i have the 62 and use it 3 to 4 times a week.
djpuma_gemini 3:54 PM - 16 May, 2012
Yeah that's why I posted this most posts I see are, serato video sucks, or serato video output looks like ass or there's no help in the serato video beta section.

Serato should think twice about dismissing the users that want ME cause if ME goes to traktor i'm sure a lot of users won't mind jumping ship.
phatbob 4:10 PM - 16 May, 2012
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yeah what's crazy is i see all these SV post on how bad it is and problems and i'm like i must be the lucky one.

I don't have them like

crashes (knock on wood)

freezes

disappearing screen

and i have the 62 and use it 3 to 4 times a week.


Yeah, Que, so you're the lucky one.

Lucky to have an incorrectly sized preview screen, and an output window that opens in fullscreen and you can't minimise it. Like you posted in the beta area.

If you think that's lucky I'd hate to think how bad things would need to be for you to feel unlucky.
pdidy 4:18 PM - 16 May, 2012
Keep in mind that MANY of the serato video complaints are FAKE complaints coming from hardcore ME supporters who are willing to say ANYTHING in order to gain more ME support. The other majority of complaints will come from windows pc users attempting to make their pc work as well as a Mac, We all no that will likely FAIL badly.....
phatbob 4:21 PM - 16 May, 2012
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Keep in mind that MANY of the serato video complaints are FAKE complaints coming from hardcore ME supporters who are willing to say ANYTHING in order to gain more ME support.


Show me ONE fake complaint.
DJ'Que 4:22 PM - 16 May, 2012
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yeah what's crazy is i see all these SV post on how bad it is and problems and i'm like i must be the lucky one.

I don't have them like

crashes (knock on wood)

freezes

disappearing screen

and i have the 62 and use it 3 to 4 times a week.


Yeah, Que, so you're the lucky one.

Lucky to have an incorrectly sized preview screen, and an output window that opens in fullscreen and you can't minimise it. Like you posted in the beta area.

If you think that's lucky I'd hate to think how bad things would need to be for you to feel unlucky.
true but that is all I had the problem with and that's a quick fix.

on the three preview screen's I drag the edge and it fixes that.

and my output window don't open in full screen.
phatbob 4:24 PM - 16 May, 2012
pdidy:

My point being that even the most hardcore Serato Video fanboys like Que have issues with SV. Really BASIC issues like, y'know, putting video on the screen.

You don't need to be an ME fanboy to see how demonstrably inferior SV is.

You just have to use both.
DJ'Que 4:24 PM - 16 May, 2012
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Keep in mind that MANY of the serato video complaints are FAKE complaints coming from hardcore ME supporters who are willing to say ANYTHING in order to gain more ME support. The other majority of complaints will come from windows pc users attempting to make their pc work as well as a Mac, We all no that will likely FAIL badly.....
This was my original answer but I knew they would jump on me and say I'm a Serato fan-boy.

so I just let someone else say it.
phatbob 4:25 PM - 16 May, 2012
Again, show me ONE 'fake' complaint.
phatbob 4:28 PM - 16 May, 2012
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and my output window don't open in full screen.



serato.com

No top bar = fullscreen mode.

Do try and remember what you write. You wrote it in MY bug report.
phatbob 4:29 PM - 16 May, 2012
Wrong link: serato.com
DJ'Que 4:38 PM - 16 May, 2012
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and my output window don't open in full screen.



serato.com

No top bar = fullscreen mode.

Do try and remember what you write. You wrote it in MY bug report.
I ended up using the work around and before I closed SV I would min it and put it to the middle.

most of the time the top bar was some how behind sl
pdidy 4:43 PM - 16 May, 2012
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You don't need to be an ME fanboy to see how demonstrably inferior SV is.

You just have to use both.

Ive used both an in my unbiased opinion, ME is obviously Superior to SV. I no you probably didn't expect me to say that...lol
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Again, show me ONE 'fake' complaint.

Im not going to go down that long,endless road of debate. I will just say, some things can be seen much more clearly when you are totally unbiased.
phatbob 4:45 PM - 16 May, 2012
I obviously have a reputation as something of a ME fanboy on here myself, but truth is, I am LOVING Itch right now.

ME is clearly never going to work with Itch, and that's fine.

But that means I have a vested interest in SV being 'good enough' to compare with ME, because at the moment I have to use Scratch Live and ME at gigs where video matters, and isn't just a bonus.

I want SV to be good enough that I can use it every night. And at the moment it just isn't.
pdidy 5:06 PM - 16 May, 2012
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But that means I have a vested interest in SV being 'good enough' to compare with ME

AN advanced ME user will never be happy with SV for quite some time. I get it, ITS hard as hell to go backwards......
popnwave 6:52 PM - 16 May, 2012
The only people who should be crying about this are folks NEW to SSL via a 61/62 or somehow being FORCED to use one (again if you still have your SL1/2/3/4 to daisy chain it's a moot point).

Sit back, wait for the folks who have time to help the programmers work out the kinks and jump to SV at that point. Otherwise just STICK with 2.3.3 and Video-SL 1.2. It's that simple.
Code:E 7:08 PM - 16 May, 2012
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Keep in mind that MANY of the serato video complaints are FAKE complaints coming from hardcore ME supporters who are willing to say ANYTHING in order to gain more ME support. The other majority of complaints will come from windows pc users attempting to make their pc work as well as a Mac, We all no that will likely FAIL badly.....


That's a complete lie...

Maybe complaints came form ME supports who gave SV a try and found out how bad it really is...


I'm so frustrated with serato i can't even begin to describe it. Serato should have by now come out with a public statement clearly outlining what there plan is. And the BS line that "if Inklen can make it work go ahead" just isn't flying anymore!

I understand what your saying popnwave. and your are correct for now..... But serato is always updating and 2.3.3. is far from there best version yet. Later version (yet to be released) will have new features that ME (and all users) will want. We dont know what those features will be until there released. But when they do come out I will most likely want to take advantage of them. And when that happens we will not be able to use them... Its all really the principal of the whole thing for me. Yes at this moment I'm not directly effected by this because 2.4.1 has nothing i want or need. But I still have library issues with my MP4's and if they fix that i will want to take advantage of that. And until SV is on par with ME i will not EVER use it live. So Serato needs to give us the option to use whatever version we like. I spent $1000 on my SL4 box and its BS that I am limited to use only older version of there software.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:49 PM - 16 May, 2012
djpuma_gemini 7:56 PM - 16 May, 2012

lmao
Steve Dub. 7:56 PM - 16 May, 2012
lol
Code:E 7:57 PM - 16 May, 2012
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lmao

Not even funny how true that is...
pdidy 8:41 PM - 16 May, 2012
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lmao

Not even funny how true that is...

Definitely funny........ but you would have to be totally brainwashed or brain dead to believe its even remotely true....lol
So if any of you consider the addition of ITCH video capabilities "NOTHING", I guess you have just proven my prior point.....
djpuma_gemini 8:43 PM - 16 May, 2012
That's adding it to a new platform. LIke hey here's the new office 2012, It's now mac compatible with the same shit as before, great for macs, but the same old same old for pc's
pdidy 8:48 PM - 16 May, 2012
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That's adding it to a new platform. LIke hey here's the new office 2012, It's now mac compatible with the same shit as before, great for macs, but the same old same old for pc's

So thats NO BIG DEAL, NOTHING right ?... Don't answer that.....lol
djpuma_gemini 8:55 PM - 16 May, 2012
yes it's no big deal.
They could have been doing that for years, but can't put one new thing in it.

Great for itch users but sucks for everyone else.
pdidy 9:00 PM - 16 May, 2012
Anybody else want to go on record agreeing with djpuma_gemini. Show of hands......
DJ'Que 9:12 PM - 16 May, 2012
It don't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's not going to happen.

Come on....

You want Mix to work then use the workaround but the fun stops at 2.3.3.

I bet there working on a update as we speak.

Hint #1 I haven't seen a post from Big Wiz In some time.
djpuma_gemini 9:14 PM - 16 May, 2012
It's better to be unheard than heard at all in regards to anyone from serato chiming in.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:15 PM - 16 May, 2012
In my eyes all adding itch to vsl did was open the flood gates to the bedroom market of $500 all in one out the box undercutting controller kiddys so excuse me if im not happy that in one swoop they also set the professional video market about a decade
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:16 PM - 16 May, 2012
Their claim that the rewrite was fir easier updating would have been valid had its release even contained an update
phatbob 9:20 PM - 16 May, 2012
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Anybody else want to go on record agreeing with djpuma_gemini. Show of hands......


Bringing video to Itch is cool and all, but you do know that SL and Itch are basically the same program, right? They're hardly gonna win any engineering awards for that...
DJ'Que 9:23 PM - 16 May, 2012
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In my eyes all adding itch to vsl did was open the flood gates to the bedroom market of $500 all in one out the box undercutting controller kiddys so excuse me if im not happy that in one swoop they also set the professional video market about a decade
this the part I hate about the new SV. now I got Controllers DJ's looking to steal the Gig.

like yesterday 4 controller DJ's.

one even mentioned me and him doing video. lmao
Code:E 9:44 PM - 16 May, 2012
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dy else want to go on record agre

-1
Maskrider 9:46 PM - 16 May, 2012
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In my eyes all adding itch to vsl did was open the flood gates to the bedroom market of $500 all in one out the box undercutting controller kiddys so excuse me if im not happy that in one swoop they also set the professional video market about a decade


lol....I see it as an option undercutting would not get them anywhere since quality videos are expensive.
tomatoslice 9:46 PM - 16 May, 2012
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Keep in mind that MANY of the serato video complaints are FAKE complaints coming from hardcore ME supporters who are willing to say ANYTHING in order to gain more ME support. The other majority of complaints will come from windows pc users attempting to make their pc work as well as a Mac, We all no that will likely FAIL badly.....



really?!?

ok, name some fake complaints.
if there are so MANY fake complaints it should not be a problem.
or better yet show us ONE fake complaint.
pdidy 9:48 PM - 16 May, 2012
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Their claim that the rewrite was fir easier updating would have been valid had its release even contained an update

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Anybody else want to go on record agreeing with djpuma_gemini. Show of hands......


Bringing video to Itch is cool and all, but you do know that SL and Itch are basically the same program, right? They're hardly gonna win any engineering awards for that...

And who here is QUALIFIED to dispute Seratos claim ? Anybody, anybody....."crickets"
phatbob 9:51 PM - 16 May, 2012
Think I've worked out why there is no media bank in SV.

It's because it can't actually play video loops seamlessly.

It might just be my machine, so can any of you guys try and verify this please: serato.com
pdidy 9:53 PM - 16 May, 2012
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In my eyes all adding itch to vsl did was open the flood gates to the bedroom market of $500 all in one out the box undercutting controller kiddys so excuse me if im not happy that in one swoop they also set the professional video market about a decade
Hey blame dj Esco...serato.com
tomatoslice 9:57 PM - 16 May, 2012
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Keep in mind that MANY of the serato video complaints are FAKE complaints coming from hardcore ME supporters who are willing to say ANYTHING in order to gain more ME support. The other majority of complaints will come from windows pc users attempting to make their pc work as well as a Mac, We all no that will likely FAIL badly.....



really?!?

ok, name some fake complaints.
if there are so MANY fake complaints it should not be a problem.
or better yet show us ONE fake complaint.




and since "MANY of the serato video complaints are FAKE complaints coming from hardcore ME supporters" i guess you are calling many of us that have complaints about serato video liars.

but since you probably can not name one fake complaint, we can deduce that you are the one that will say ANYTHING to gain more support. either that or you are the liar, if not then name one fake complaint.
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:02 PM - 16 May, 2012
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In my eyes all adding itch to vsl did was open the flood gates to the bedroom market of $500 all in one out the box undercutting controller kiddys so excuse me if im not happy that in one swoop they also set the professional video market about a decade


lol....I see it as an option undercutting would not get them anywhere since quality videos are expensive.



Not true at all I know it just changed but as little as a month ago you could EASILY build a full high quality library for like $100 through smash, you can build a full edm for $30 at dtvids, and round it off with 8th wander.....or spend $150 and get a HD from que lol jk
skinnyguy 12:50 AM - 17 May, 2012
don't worry. i'm sure the next beta will now include serato INTRO users.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:39 AM - 17 May, 2012
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don't worry. i'm sure the next beta will now include serato INTRO users.



hell im fairly positive the next update will be for VDJ torrent users