sheeit!!!!

goodbye serato

Sad. Thanks for the heads up.

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damn. no bueno.

Wow the worst case scenario is in effect. What a bummer. I wonder if this just means an update of ME will need to come out or if it's a true lock out.

This all I got to say! LOL

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Then help inklen build his own platform to use without nothing but ME.

Hey you never know. Would you buy it if was more stable then SSL and ITCH?

do not really give a fuck.

i will be using a 57 or any hardware that works with the current version of ssl, 192-233.
those versions working with Mix Emergency IS the best video setup for dvs.
i will stick with what is the best until something better comes along.
when that happens, sure i will move on.
Serato Video better be the absolute shit and not take big shits when using it for myself to even consider caring about this new hardware.

i would buy ANYTHING that was more stable than SSL and ITCH yet was still dvs and could do video.

ANYTHING could do video up to ME standards that is.

Maybe ME can go to VDJ

Ssl hasn't brought anything new to the plate that I want. I'm still fine using 192 or 200. Until splice come out, then.....maybe. But ME is worth more than splice so...yea.

I'm only really bothered by this because I think it will have some effect on Rane's sales of the 61 and 62 mixer (maybe not a *huge* effect, since video DJ's are a small minority, but undoubtedly *some*), plus it's adding negativity to the Serato "ecosystem" (as manifested through some of the comments people are making).

If Serato is truly committed to stepping up their Video plug-in, great. I just don't think it's all that wise to count on things that don't exist yet. I've always considered Serato one of the more ethical developers/companies around, yet there are plenty of past examples of promised "developments" that either never materialized at all or took a long time.

I personally hope that Serato and Inklen can figure some arrangement they can both live with.

^with that being said, it's not Rane's fault at all.
I don't blame them, but they are in the crossfire just by having the 61/62.

Maybe ME will work with 2.4 eventually, right now it's too early to tell.

I think this will be the case.. I mean honestly 1.9.2 and 2.3.3 will work ok (right Josh Carl?) and unless you are making the leap to a new mixer, you can hold off on running the newer versions of SSL for a while.

Most people are update weary anyway. I know I only jumped to the 2.3.3 beta when I had the mp4 mangling going on and I do NOT plan on upgrading any time soon until there is some KILLER feature I can't live without.

I'm actually more upset now that mixtape doesn't work.
I actually just used it for the first time yesterday and It's awesome, since I usually drop my mixes in ableton afterward anyway.

Hopefully mixtape will be fixed as well.

I think the way serato came out and announced what will happen with 2.4 is not the proper way they should have done it.

They should have said, "With 2.4 we completely rewrote our code and with that being said, 3rd party apps will no longer work with 2.4 but we are diligently working on a fix to get those apps up and running again"

That's only if they plan on having mixtape with 2.4, which I hope they do.

Im wearing my vagina on the outside today.
IE, I am too much of a pu**y to go with 2.3.3

Everytime I hear a success story about 2.3.3 I hear 2 horror stories.
the only real way to tell is to jump in an try it I guess, and theres no way to simulate hours
of playing in different environments.


I got to thinking... I said to myself.
(because Serato has SAID that the 61 & 62 will ONLY work with 2.4+ software... much like the 68 and 2.0)
If Im sticking with 1.9.2, along side of a huge collective of djs.
then its just a matter of being upset with Serato for their actions, or lack of as a consumer.

maybe we should making a even greater stink about post 1.9.2 SSL's being "suspect"
than once we have that rock-solid DVS we all knew and loved we can all move on.
I know there are plenty of cats using 2.0-2.3 with ME/VSL with no problems.
and this of course opens a new can of worms.

but not only am I stale mate in moving to a 62 (which was my plan) becuase of the Mix Emergency fiasco...Im also locked into it because of the post 1.9.2 BS.
which pains me greatly, because I am DIE HARD rane and was looking forward to a upgraded soundcard from the 57.

So maybe its a Pioneer Nexus + Innofader for the first time in my life.
If 2.0-2.3 was solid, Id grab a 68, but we all know how that is.

does anyone know if 2.4 will still play a video even tho you load up an audio file ? like ME does.

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ignore that. wrong thread.

the audio part yeah not the video. there is no video tab in 2.4 yet.

I been using 2.3 & 2.2 with no issues. and the new 62 mixer man its dope and I mean real dope. they are selling fast. i think agi is out and so is where I got mines from.

yup, like I said... for every success story, theres 2 horror stories.
just look in the support thread.

Id really love to get into a better sounding audio card...
but looks like that just not going to happen

yeah I guess. cause this mixer really sound better than the 57.

of course it does, it has RANE Engineering at the head of development and design.

would anyone expect anything less from them, I know for the last 2 decades I havent.

Does anybody have ME 2.1 and serato working on their new rane mixers? If so what is your set up?

Please clarify

Do you have "ME2.1" working with ssl? If so what version of ssl? Are you controlling it with your new rane mixer?


I had it working with ME2.0 and ssl 2.3.3 with my rane 61 but for some reason after upgrading to ME 2.1, controlling everything via the 61 (midi) no longer works. I have my rane 61 going thru an ssl3 box so it should work.

With ME 2.1, you can now just use the 61 with SSL 2.4.2 directly with the 61 or 62 without an SL-Box. The faders should be auto-assigned to ME like they were with the 57 and 68. But if you have other functions midi-ed from the 61 to ME, than you will need a separate controller.

SSL 2.4.3 final introduced a bug that broke the connection with ME, you can still use ME, but need to install and activate SV in the plug-ins and then de-active it. More info in the ME forum.

I'm using the 62 with ME and using SSL2.4.2, hope that helps.

Ok, great. Thanks bro. I guess I go get another midi or something for the other controls. For some reason my cross fader isn't working with it. And the midi is not allowing me to set it. Any help there would be great.

Are you using 2.4.2 or 2.4.3

I'm using 2.4.3 and I have disable/enabled SV like you said which gets my up&down fader to work but my cross does not. It does not seem mapped.

There was a bug, I would suggest using 2.4.2 or quoted from inklen

" After launching Scratch Live 2.4.3, enable and then disable Serato Video in the Setup screen of Scratch Live "

same issue with 2.4.2

The link crossfader button was it. Thanks for all you help Niro, you been great!