From what I hear, abslutely nothing to serato users as 2.4 will not support M.E. or so the rumour mill says.

would be nice to hear if this is the case?

So....who would use ME then?

Would you jump to another dvs if ME worked there?

frankly I don't do video atm so no. But If i was a video dj, I would seriously have to weigh up my options, as of yet serato Video has not yet been released to the masses, so I have no idea as to how well this stacks up against ME. & again its all speculation from the rumour mill.

Having said that, I honestly feel like if serato pulled their socks up in the 1st place, there would be no need to for ME at all. They should have all of this done in house like apple do. & the products that are written outside end up being apple owned anyway. Look @ logic that was so successfull they bought it.

Jussayin!

I was gonna purchase the new 62 until I heard about this...Ive been using M.E. since it came out and I don't wanna be forced to use a program thats not on the same level as M.E. Ive seen a few videos on the new serato video & it looks to me like nothing has changed but the name. If the new 62 isn't compatible with M.E. I definitely will not purchase one.

^^^ +1

Jesus christ, there is nothing out there to say ME won't work with SSL in the future. This gossip is worse than a retirement home.

most likely it will work, but if I was serato i'd be zipping my pocket to stop the ME guys from taking cash out of it

Again, how would they do that? ME pretty much piggybacks off the output of SSL..

They can stop the code from working. That simple. 2.4 and serato video would mean no me. Hell serato can charge to upgrade. As far as them making it like ME that would be easy. Question is would you move to serato video if they made it better than ME.

Ok im a bit outta the loop butfrom what im hearin the next sl version wont work with ME and the next ableton wont support mixtape...is it just me or are we heading backwards quickly, ill admit im a serato fanboy but it feels like the ships sinking

nothing confirmed about ME just speculation from what I gather,

a mod let split that mixtape was being dropped in the next release so there is proof of that

ME can operate on it's own to manipulate video already.. as long as SSL is outputting video and audio to external sources (IE your mixer), it is VERY difficult to block that sort of thing without a major rewrite. If I have doubts about anything, it's SSL biting off that much of a project simply to thwart a plug in. Audio DJs are still their meat and potatoes, why bother?

If they do drop the ableton thing after working so many years on it im starting to wonder were serato is heading for the first time. That would seem like a huge failure and with traktor making production a big part of there software i just wonder what the plan is.

not if they do a lawsuit. very easy. but like I said if serato was to be better than ME would people switch back.

YES

Oh boy, some of you guys might be great DJs but you are definitely not lawyers or developers.

we only play one on tv

There are NO legal grounds to stand in on this one, me makes use of a signal thats on the way out, that would be like serato sueing mackie for using the sl softwares output to produce nusic

Bezz...not sure that true use of anyone IP to make profit requires compensation...look at RIM, and heck MICROSOFT sued a ton of delepoers of "freeware" around 03-05

+1

"switching" means we already have VSL and tossed it aside for something better. Serato made money from me on a product that I don't even use anymore... how does that hurt them?

no one this thread knows what they are talking about its all speculation. So what if the shit doesnt work, what other options do you have to mix video?

That's why I said "going over." There's plenty of DJ's that I know who bought ME without ever buying VSL.

But what about a X employee stealing codes.

If codes were stolen, I'm sure it would've been blocked much earlier.

And how do we know ME uses output signals only? There has to be a link to know which video to load and the speed and direction of the video. Not to mention links to the faders.

Well, not like I understand how it all works anyways...

Well the people who write mix em were people from serato so thatys how they no what to do.

Ya but me dosent require sl to work its standalone, it would be like microsoft suing western digital for makin hds that work WITH windowd

Pretty sure this has been confirmed now that me will not be functional within serato from the next update onwards, which means if you intended to use ME with the 61 or the 62, your pretty much shit outta luck. Another reason to stay with 2.3 & a 57?

Where is this post saying Mixtape will be dropped?

Until I see something official I can't say I'd see ithappening, but mixtape would be my sole reason i'll be buying a 61/62

it was officially stated already.... i don't expect the next update to have this feature .

official:
Mix Emergency:
""The short version is that we can't work on products that aren't ours. ME was never officially supported, and we can't take development time away from our products to do this." -quote

(Though by this quote, if Mix Emergency can make it work.... then why not)

Mixtape:
DONE. FIN. OVER.
serato.com

Actually:

it's not in ver.2.4 she didn't say it was
what she did say however was that
again.... that doesn't sound to me like it is DONE. FIN. OVER.
It's kind of like when ME users kept telling everyone who inquired about VSL that it was dead and Serato was no longer gonna develop video for SL and how they had inside info on that and it was absolute DONE. FIN. OVER and now here they are building a new code from the ground up for SV. I really can't help but feel that there are those who are so attached to certain programs that they come on here and speculate with out knowing and try to convince others that things are not what they really are for some petty reason.

DjBigWiz you are talking like you are going to get royalties for Serato Video, there are many good and bad points on this thread and your Masterminding all comments

hahaha... I wish. I'm just talking from a stand point of logic and common sense and being able to read what is written... how does anyone read "it doesn't work in ver 2.4 but we are working on it" and get... it is DONE FIN OVER from that? Seriously?
My comments about SV/VSL/ME were to illustrate this point. For every post I make about SV or VSL there are SEVERAL more about ME... are they getting royalties from ME? c'mon man... that's just silly. And how am I "masterminding" all comments... because I point out absurdity and use common sense like.... it's ME's duty to make their product work.. not Seratos.

ME users can say what ever the hell they want including "FUCK SERATO" -Eloy
But I can't say Hey, ME is a great program but it's not Seratos responsibility with out getting accused of some really silly shit?
C'mon man.

Im not accusing serato or Me inklen, im tryin to make the point that these changes may have people change DVS...im still gettin my 62 it just sucks people are cancelling / threatening to cancel their Rane orders bc of this, understand where im coming from?

Yeah I can't pretend I know anything about mix tape's future. I responded out my comfort zone and apologize...

I love everyone's speculation... We won't know until all the new stuff drops.

Okay maybe ME user should start to worry now...

serato.com

and further proof from Nick at Inklen:

www.inklen.com

Seems like they just couldn't get the hardware maps for mixtape ready in time to get it running for this release.
I'd read that the same as Big Wiz, just on hold until they get it working correctly.

Hope it doesn't take too long though, that is one of the key reasons I want a Rane/Serato mixer. Otherwise I'd have an empath.

If ME were to stop working in future releases, as much as it would piss people off. Seems to be perfectly within serato's right to do so.

Joshua Carl- All good, thanks for bringing it to my attention actually. If I hadn't seen that I probably would've been really confused when I did pick up a 62.

So everyone is staying with the 57 until serato/rane gets the new gear working as good or better than what we had before.

Thats all crazy. hopefully they fix mixtape and as far as mix emergency im sure they will get it to work on there end at some point i woudl think.

2.0 drops REAL SOON.

exactly......how many m.e. user do not own vsl? I bet its a really small fraction of me users, most me user SWITCHED over cause it was something better

Wiz, i think you forget where you are.



This was your first mistake.

:P

hahaha... you're right. good point.
*sigh*

lol so facepalmy true

ok so i think alot people were asking why mix emergency over serato video. ive only ever used serato video for 2 years and decided to get mix emergency lately. holyyyyyyyyyyyyy crap why did i wait so long. there isnt even a comparsion. man was i stupid. serato is so far behind its sick. i feel like a totally different video dj.

^^ lol @ stepping up to the big boy table just as it gets cut from serato's system. Ouch

HaHaHa...
sounds like me except I was a bit more discreet.

hey im happy using older version. just fine with me and mix emergency will figure it out. i have no doubt

Same here.
I put my new 62 mixer back in the box and continued using my 57. I'm really digging the live video overlay and auto video load on tracks without videos.

right, those 12 bnaks for automatic stuff is awesome and live video feed is amzing and just the amout of effects to switch it up and stuff so worth it. serato should have let him handle video and just handle music part. they could devote all there resources to stability and he could handle video. seemed like a smart business move to me.

keep trying to tell people. he's a beast and he does all of this dolo.