nevermind, 2 minutes later i check the website and it works. but it has been updated. So i assume thats why.

hehe, people always jump to conclusions. I can't wait!

=O

OH snap. Mix Emergency 2.0 released
Check it

www.inklen.com

puma the pranksta

The Mix Emergency 2.0 walk through has been shot, edited and is ready to air:
It will broadcast in one place, and one place only...

Watchvimeo.com

Look to sun on the seventh day,.... or something like that.

funny story... even after we shot it... they STILL added more stuff after!
crazy.

dawn feb 7th

well I wouldnt be that particular... I was just watching the Two Towers and wanted to by as vauge and mysterious as Gandalf

mix emergency my precious

gives us the 2.0

like a crack head waiting for his rock.....

its all mine you cant look at it... gimme gimme gimme

i wouldn't be supprised if mix emergency was blocked when the new serato video drops, serato have to be getting a cut from the sales of ME or they have some dirt on serato, it makes no sense just to let them do it without any gain to themselfs,

wow were still beating that dead horse....

WHO CARES IF THEY DO....all previous version will work

Did you ever try using 1.9.2 with a pre-installed..

SL2?
SL3?
SL4?
SIXTY-EIGHT?
61?
62?

It won't work.

Sorry, scrape SL3 - it works fine with 1.9.2.

M.e. wont work? or ssl 1.9.2 will not work on that hardware?

1.9.2 will not work on that hardware.

To use current hardware you need current software.

So if this turns out to be true:

... then this does not matter:

because, previous version will not run with current hardware.

I'm not in the market for a Rane mixer, I use Pioneer at gigs and at home.

USB3 will never come to mac, and a thunderbolt Rane interface is years away at least.

So unless all the SL2s, SL3s and SL4s in the world suddenly die, I reckon I'll have usable hardware available to me for at least the next 5 years, all of which will work with versions up to 2.3.3.

Not really worried about the hardware.

Good for you. But those who want to use SL2,4,68,61,62 and want to stay on 1.9.2 probably will be worried.

But ME works great with 2.3.3. and every other version past 1.9.2. so whats the issue? well it will suck if im stuck using 2.3.3. but it wont be the end of the world.

Some DJs here prefer to use 1.9.2.

Depends if they value that hardware more than they value 1.9.2 and ME.

I'm guessing if anyone is still on 1.9.2 today they've already made that call.

Ya, and some DJ's prefer to only use vinyl and no DSV.

And some DJ (like me who use sl4 and CDJ2000's have no choice). and i got a feeling those still stuck in the pre 2.0 world wont be upgrading ever. So let them stay in the dark age's an the rest of us will move ahead.
and all current hardware works with 2.3.3. and SO does ME.

61,62 are current hardware. They don't work with 2.3.3.

Nope probably 2.4 only. Which is why I won't get a 62 until I know it works with 2.3.3 and/or 2.4 works with ME.

Who to say ME Isn't work n a way to make ME Work without use SSL..ORRRRRRR To work with traktor

i'm not worried about it.
i will just move on.

thats all I was sayin....


+1 lol

Agreed.

You guys and your speculation is comical at times. WORST CASE SCENARIO.

Those of us who are running 2.3.3 + 1.7.2 will enjoy the newer features until you guys are willing to take the plunge. I seriously doubt there is any game changer that will cost you millions if you don't upgrade. Figuratively speaking though you can stick with XP only so long before you need to move on. It seems there is a vocal minority that has stuck with 1.9.2 while the rest of us have moved on and trouble shot, then corrected any issues we've had since upgrading.

Especially Mac folks I cannot understand why you are having issues. Of course I NEVER expose my virgin set of mp4s to the analyzer after the craziness of 2.2.x I redid all 6000+ videos in groups (mainly decades) over a week and tested it all out with great results.

its funny that everybody crys for a new mixer and we get 2. now others are crying about its to high or ME wont work so im not buying the 62 mixer. fine don't but I highly doubt that your clients can tell the difference between serato video & ME. and that who matters to me. I will be getting the 62 or the 62z and even if ME is blocked oh well. wait I dont use ME. but really if you wanna still use ME than im selling my 57.

I guess you haven't used ME yet otherwise you wouldn't say something like this.

DJ'Que is the very definition of fanboy.

My favourite quote "I wouldn't spend another $150 no matter how much better it is"

Classic!

actually I have and did a club with it and when the next dj went on without video and I switch back to vsl they didn't even notice or tell the difference so that proved to me that its nothing major that my clients or club goers say a difference, yes I like the split screens alot. as far as a fanboy never unless rane is giving me free mixers and other stuff.

Then you have not taken the time to get a real handle on the powerful stuff in ME, dude.

That's cute ;)

You need a bit more time with it than just having a go with it at the club.

Guess you never gave your one client the opportunity to use their logo as a watermark on all videos. And giving your other client the opportunity to use a different logo on all the videos. With just a few clicks.

Or you haven't played any big clubs where there is an inherent a/v latency.

Or...

The list continues.

I don't think anyone is arguing the tweaks to ME leave you with a lot more room to grow, however if you mix well, 99% of people will have no idea if you are using SL vs. ME any day. It just ain't gonna happen.

I've run both to projectors and plasmas and the output is the same unless. YES more transitions and FX in ME, but outside of us behind the decks, the guy on the dancefloor won't notice.

Unless the venue needs delay compensation, as nik39 said...

That's not what I am referring to.

I don't care about more transitions and FX, either. Nice, but not necessary.


Then most likely subpar equipment is being used. The quality difference is obvious.

Just the basic stuff a club owner should care about (branding your club). If he doesn't care, then you probably don't know about the good ME features.

I ve said this a billion times....

integrity.

its not about the crowd not being able to tell
by that rational, you can throw on a mix cd and fake the funk, its all good!
hey. the crow cant tell, the owner cant tell, the other djs cant tell...

so lets all start doing that.

INTEGRITY and professionalism.
I know.
and i will accept nothing short of the best ingredients availible for my dish

and since when do we put ANY STOCK in what the crowd thinks?
these are the same morons that we complain about daily here.
all of sudden we are gonna start validating their DVS prowess?

integrity.
just because no one see's you being shiesty doesent mean its ok.
professionals keep themselves in check.

but Ill tell you what when I had the dancers tits bouncing around in the top left corner via webcam; a twitter logo gradient'ly swimming in and out of the mixes smoothly of the bar's twitter page, and the liquor sponsors logo rotating in the corner, as well as a nice red bull transition every few mixes for the red bull rep in the house...
well, i got an extra 150.00 on top of my regular pay ....then then owner brings up all the ownership brass and has me show them how i do all that with one software solution...
so maybe sometimes you can listen to the owner...

well said....

Ive said it before and ill say it again, the crowd may not care but odds are they also dont give a fuck if u get paid at the end of the night or make it home safe or if your kids are eatin....some shit u just gotta worry about yourself

Then most likely subpar equipment is being used. The quality difference is obvious.


Can someone please post some side by side screen caps to show me the difference then? I'd love to see examples of this. When I say I've tested on both devices I am talking about directly connected to out of the mini display port, not a distributor, et al.

I will not argue about the the delay option though. It is a definite need in some cases.

pop are you asking for a comparison of Quality ME Vs VSL on the master output?

Im trying to retrace to convo and got a lil lost with the quotes

Busted quoting FTL.. yeah outside of better options I am trying to see if people are claiming the rendered output of ME is superior to SL.

I wish i could find the thread... it might have been on FB...
alot of it was that programmer mumbo jumbo...
but someone did one waaay back when VSL 1.2 dropped
(this is when i was a VSL fanboy....I even made a video rebuting mix emergency's quality:
Watchvimeo.com )


but yes, on paper, and to the human eye ME does have a higher quality output.
Ill try to dig it up... but we are talking 2 years ago..almost to the day
I totally got put in my place.

I don't know if that is an 'absolute', but it is true of any given laptop.

I've always been able to get higher quality out of each of the MBPs I've had, when using ME, because it puts substantially lower demands on the system.

Hey Joshua is is possible to do a side by side screenshot of ME master output vs VSL master output? I'm just curious to see the difference in quality

of course it is... but someone already did it..
Im trying to find it.

maybe Ill do it on Remix Report once the Public Beta of SV drops.

popnwave, yup, that's what I am claiming.

JC, would be a good idea.

Word. I don't think I'll be able to make the jump to ME since I saw a post on the Inklen forum saying that ME isn't going to work with Itch. I'll try to find the post and link it here.

ME to only support SSL and not Itch:
www.inklen.com

even watching a video of a video something gets lost in translation.

your still gonna have to go off the word of the people making the video.

Ill tell you what though, a very good friend of mine is DIE HARD virtual DJ
and when i visited at his gig Id wager his videos looked cleaner than VSLs.
I was kinda shook..and it wasnt no crazy PC, just a simple Vaio or something with a 1 gb video card...

on of the big things is "your eye"
ME has a master Contrast, Brightness & Saturation control.
so, no matter where you go you can use your eye you can always tweak it out
leave it there for the night.... but if u dont have "the eye" than you can make matters worse.

Yeah I still have virtual DJ and I did like how smoothly it handled video but it sucked when I tried doing some scratches with my v7 or ns6 so I switched to VSL.

I try not to mess with the contrast and brightness controls on my video card because most places I play have different combinations of TV that aren't calibrated right to began with. I should just get there earlier and try to fix them tho.

Also I'm looking forward to your Video Reports! I learned a little bit from you at the VDJC

It's already online:
remixreport.com

Word! thanks for the link nik

+1

+2
if anything only a blind man couldnt see the difference

if they can't tell the difference than...
either
1) you are doing it wrong.
or
2) they don't care...which could mean a few things, like "you are doing it wrong."

I'm not doing nothing wrong.

Ask Ace. but i've played at big clubs with over 20 tv's.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to attack or diss you.

lol...double negative says you are.

they did not notice because they don't care.
or perhaps you have nothing set any different on ME than VSL.

this subject has come up before. remember?
serato.com

well when everyone is staring at the tv's and asking me do I have this video. yeah maybe Im doing something wrong. used it at Namm this year in the marathon booth and everybody was standing in front looking at the Tv's. I had 500 dvd and the took all 500.

You can always use an empty DVD ;)

:)

there's even certain people, when even on fire will tell you not do put it out; they are not interested in you fire extinguisher:.... they have a better way and will ultimately burn just
to prove you wrong.


burn away.

so what? free stuff is free stuff. 500 dvds given out and marathon booth mixing has nothing to do with this. the last large job i did people picked up 2000 of my agents cards. don't forget i also drank 5 cokes.

my people can tell the difference in vsl and me, yours can't.
i have made my point quite clear. people will see the difference there as well.
i am done burning away.

btw if you are still mad that you bought ME i would highly encourage you to delve into the possibilities it provides. it could make the purchase more reasonable.
if you don't want to do that, than cool. that sucks, i feel you. you wasted money.

Nope didnt buy it. it was a cracked version going around. haha

really??

wow....

you usin a cracked vsl too?
buy your hd off craiglist?

nope just selling HDs....
serato.com

nd\\\

nope I paid for vsl. ME crack was sent to me. Real Talk. someone sent it saying how much better it was over vsl. and they were from this site. hmmmm

Im not a snitch and you will never know so dont even ask who it was.

ur not a snitch, but ur a thief it aint better imo

+1

Not A theif. I don't use it dumbass. I use Vsl can't you read or tell. SmhSa

wow. at the very least you are a COMPLETE LIAR> serato.com
and if not a liar something equally ridiculous.
who posts they spent $179 and later says they use a cracked version? a dumas.
it's funny how liars and dumas' always show their true colors eventually. oh yea, read this get pissed. truth hurts huh.

before i did not agree with you on most posts. you have lost total credibility and respect for your reviews. i am sure many people agree. none of your posts rain truth, many of them have been quite contradictory.
and IF your crowd does not know the dif between ME and VSL we will never know because you lie. everyone else can tell the difference. each person that uses ME here will tell you that. also, IF they can't it is YOU. you clearly didn't use the tool you were given well.
there is more truth in that than anything you have ever posted

BOOM!

Wow @DJ'Que just stop before you dig yourself any deeper.

and boom goes the dynamite.

china seems to be almost in sight

LMFAO! on that one...... China! lol lol lol hahahaha Good one man! Made my day!

You should let Nick from Inklen know who it was DJ'Que cause who every is give it out is not cool. They are giving away Nick's work for free....

Nomm nomm nomm.nomm

Watchwww.youtube.com

there's a cracked ME?

No there its not. Fanboy just wants to get some shit stated

Well I just ran across a crack version so i guess he wasn't lying.. damn shame though

It's off line again... could this be it. the moment all US ME fanboy have been waiting on... Crossing my fingers

looks like it's been taken down by ice

www.djpuma.com

I can see it here.



That's some freaky stuff, I heard they could do this, it's wrong.

Sorry it was a bad joke.

I mean I can see the website again from where I am, maybe it's a US only thing? I couldn't see it over the weekend.

It was down, it's back now.

OK, just so much weird stuff they're trying to push through nowadays, ACTA, SOPA, can't tell....

@Joshua -- is their a tutorial on how to create your own transitions? I was waiting for about 3 months last summer...on how to do this...>Tru

+1 this would be very handy

serato.com